Podcasts about Visual Studio Code

What if the next great irrigation software tool doesn't come from a manufacturer, a big tech company, or a traditional development team? What if it comes from you? In this episode, Andy shares his personal experience learning the craft of vibe coding and why he believes it could be a game changer for the irrigation industry. After four months of building apps with AI coding tools, including SLIDE and BranchBoard, Andy explains how curiosity, imagination, and domain knowledge can now turn real-world problems into real software faster than ever before. This is not a technical coding tutorial. It is a rally cry for the curious. If you have ever thought, "Why doesn't this exist?" or "I wish this worked differently," this episode is for you. Andy walks through how to start with a pain point, brainshare with AI, create a product requirements document, and use tools like ChatGPT, Codex, GitHub, Visual Studio Code, and AWS to begin building real applications. The message is simple: If you think it, you can build it. The future belongs to the curious.

An airhacks.fm conversation with Bruno Borges (@brunoborges) about: discussion about the JAZ command launcher for Java, JVM tuning and default ergonomics for containers versus dedicated cloud environments, replacing the Java launcher with jaz in container images, supporting Java 8 to 25, maximizing resource utilization on kubernetes to reduce waste, running Java on Azure Functions, Azure App Service deploying a fat JAR without a container image, Azure Container Apps as a platform on AKS without YAML, Azure Kubernetes Service and AKS Automatic, Bicep as infrastructure as code, deploying a JAR to Kubernetes via OCI artifacts and a custom operator, Microsoft Foundry and the Microsoft Agent Framework, Semantic Kernel learnings, the Copilot SDK for Java communicating with headless CLIs, A2A and ACP protocols and MCP, agents as microservices with scoped tasks, guardrails, and sandboxing, per-agent model selection for cost and reasoning trade-offs, observability and traceability between agents with opentelemetry, grounding LLMs against MicroProfile, Jakarta EE, JAX-RS normative RFC 2119 specifications for hallucination-free Java code generation, the Boundary Control Entity pattern and business components as Java packages, package-info.java for semantic context, GitHub Copilot skills and custom instructions in Visual Studio Code, the AI Rails skills site, zero-dependency Java CLI scripting, reducing dependencies by reusing source code instead of JARs, the org.json reference implementation reduced to five classes, StackGres and OnGres running Quarkus and GraalVM to manage Postgres on Kubernetes, the Digg Into Java community Bruno Borges on twitter: @brunoborges

Dave Rubinstein, Editor in Chief of SD Times, discusses with Kumar Vikesh, Senior Product Owner at Progress Data Direct, the challenges of REST connectivity and the introduction of an AI-driven solution to automate the creation of model files for the Autonomous REST Connector. Progress Data Direct offers a standard connectivity platform with over 60 connectors and 100 data sources. The new AI-driven approach uses three agents: a generator, validator, and launcher, to create, validate, and test REST model files, reducing manual effort from days to hours. The solution is currently in an early access program, with plans for future general availability and integration with Visual Studio Code.

GitHub confirms a major supply chain breach after a malicious Visual Studio Code extension reportedly gave attackers linked to TeamPCP access to roughly 3,800 internal repositories. The bigger issue: developer workstations now hold some of the most sensitive secrets in modern software organizations. Also today: Microsoft begins phasing out SMS-based authentication for personal accounts, calling text-message authentication a growing fraud risk as it shifts toward phishing-resistant passkeys. Researchers also disclose a nine-year-old Linux privilege escalation flaw, CVE-2026-46333, nicknamed SSH-Keysign-Pwn, which can allow root-level access with local machine access. And Proton publicly threatens to leave Canada rather than comply with proposed surveillance legislation it says would undermine its no-logs privacy promise. Cybersecurity Today would like to thank Material Security for sponsoring this podcast. Material Security provides faster, more complete detection and response for email, identity, and data threats inside Google Workspace and Microsoft 365. You can contact them at material[dot]security. If cybersecurity, privacy, and digital infrastructure matter to your business, this is the daily briefing you need. Timestamps: 00:00 Top Stories Rundown 00:24 GitHub Supply Chain Breach 01:09 Developer Workstations at Risk 02:31 Microsoft Ditches SMS MFA 04:15 Linux Root Escalation Flaw 06:11 Proton vs Canada Surveillance Bill 08:03 Wrap Up and Sign Off #cybersecurity #github #microsoft #linux #protonvpn #privacy #databreach #supplychainattack #infosec #cybernews

A serious new Windows 11 BitLocker vulnerability, open-sourced offensive malware tools, a suspected Iranian cyber campaign targeting U.S. fuel infrastructure, and malware that appears designed to interfere with nuclear weapons simulation systems.  Cybersecurity Today would like to thank Material Security for sponsoring this podcast. Material Security provides faster, more complete detection and response for email, identity, and data threats inside Google Workspace and Microsoft 365. You can contact them at material[dot]security. David Shipley breaks down four major cybersecurity stories on Cybersecurity Today. First, a newly disclosed zero-day dubbed YellowKey reportedly defeats default Windows 11 BitLocker protection on systems using TPM-only encryption, giving attackers with physical access a path to unencrypted data through the Windows Recovery Environment. Microsoft is investigating, while security experts are urging stronger BitLocker configurations. The episode also examines the TeamPCP threat group's decision to release offensive tooling publicly, dramatically lowering the barrier for copycat supply-chain attacks. Researchers have already spotted malicious NPM packages borrowing similar techniques, including persistence mechanisms aimed at developer environments such as Visual Studio Code and Claude Code. David also looks at disturbing analysis of the FAST16 malware, which researchers believe was engineered to tamper with nuclear weapons simulation software including LS-DYNA and AutoDyn. And finally, U.S. officials reportedly suspect Iranian actors in cyberattacks targeting internet-exposed gas station automatic tank gauge systems, a reminder that weak operational technology security can quickly become a real-world infrastructure problem. 00:00 Sponsor Message 00:24 Headlines Overview 00:50 BitLocker Zero Day 03:32 TeamPCP Tools Leak 06:13 Copycat NPM Malware 06:50 Fast16 Nuclear Sabotage 08:37 Iran Gas Station Hacks 10:28 Hardening Critical Infrastructure 11:16 Wrap Up And Events 11:59 Sponsor Deep Dive #Cybersecurity #Windows11 #BitLocker #ZeroDay #TeamPCP #IranCyberAttack #SupplyChainAttack #CriticalInfrastructure #CyberSecurityToday

Free Guide to Build Your Personal AI Wiki: https://clickhubspot.com/fcmt Ep. 425 You can create a second brain in 15 minutes and for free. Kipp and Matt Wolfe (Future Tools) dive into how to build your own "second brain" using tools like Obsidian and Codex, so you can finally make use of all the information you're gathering. Learn more on setting up a personal wiki to organize your knowledge, harnessing AI-powered agents to automate and interlink content, and turning your information hoarding into proactive recommendations and smarter business decisions. Mentions Matt Wolfe https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-wolfe-30841712/ Future Tools https://futuretools.io/ Obsidian https://obsidian.md/ Obsidian Web Clipper https://obsidian.md/clipper Codex https://openai.com/codex/ Claude Code https://code.claude.com/docs/en/overview Cursor https://cursor.com/ Andrej Karpathy https://karpathy.ai/ Visual Studio Code https://code.visualstudio.com/ Notion https://www.notion.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ready to go nano? Carl and Richard talk to José Simões about the open source .NET nanoFramework - a community-driven project to provide .NET for embedded systems. José talks about the evolution from the .NET microFramework, to something even smaller, while at the same time, microcontrollers have gotten much more powerful. The conversation looks beyond the hobbyist and educational uses of these systems into commercial IoT applications. The development cycle is one you'll recognize, working in Visual Studio (or Visual Studio Code) and executing against an emulator, or to the actual controller via USB. And yes, you can set breakpoint in the controller!

The Foundry Toolkit for Visual Studio Code - formerly the AI Toolkit - is Microsoft's answer to fragmented AI development workflows, bringing model selection, prompt iteration, agent building, evaluation, and production tracing into a single VS Code extension. In this episode, we walk through the full feature surface. Whether you're picking your first frontier model or shipping a hosted agent to Microsoft Foundry, this is the episode for you!(00:00) - Intro and catching up.(03:55) - Show content starts.Show links- Foundry Toolkit overview- Give us feedback!

Ready to go nano? Carl and Richard talk to José Simões about the open source .NET nanoFramework - a community-driven project to provide .NET for embedded systems. José talks about the evolution from the .NET microFramework, to something even smaller, while at the same time, microcontrollers have gotten much more powerful. The conversation looks beyond the hobbyist and educational uses of these systems into commercial IoT applications. The development cycle is one you'll recognize, working in Visual Studio (or Visual Studio Code) and executing against an emulator, or to the actual controller via USB. And yes, you can set breakpoint in the controller!

Today, we discuss the significant impact of AI on software development, particularly the use of AI assistants like GitHub Copilot. Our guest, Burke Holland, a principal developer advocate at Microsoft, shares insights on how developers are increasingly integrating AI into their workflows. We explore the current spectrum of AI usage, from code completion to AI agents that can write code autonomously. Burke emphasizes the need for developers to adapt to these changes while maintaining a critical perspective on AI-generated code. This conversation sheds light on the evolving role of software developers in an AI-enhanced landscape.In this insightful episode, Burke Holland, a principal developer advocate at Microsoft for the Visual Studio Code team, discusses the transformative role of artificial intelligence (AI) in software development. The conversation starts with the observation that developers have shifted from skepticism about AI's capabilities in coding to a more supportive stance, with many now using AI tools like GitHub Copilot to assist in their work. Burke explains how these AI tools can provide significant assistance through 'completions'—intelligent suggestions that understand the context of what the developer is working on, effectively acting as a cognitive partner in the coding process.The discussion further explores the concept of AI 'agents,' which represent a cutting-edge approach to automating aspects of coding. Burke acknowledges the potential of these agents to undertake more complex tasks but also expresses concern about the implications for developers' roles. He emphasizes the importance of human oversight, suggesting that while AI can enhance efficiency, developers must remain engaged with the code they produce to ensure quality and comprehensibility. The episode highlights the balance between leveraging AI's strengths and maintaining the critical thinking skills that are essential in programming.As the episode wraps up, Burke encourages developers to adopt an exploratory mindset toward AI tools. He notes that the landscape of software development is rapidly evolving, and by integrating AI thoughtfully, developers can enhance their productivity while still preserving their essential skills and understanding of coding. The conversation underscores a future where AI and human collaboration can lead to better software outcomes, emphasizing the need for a nuanced approach to AI integration.Takeaways:In the podcast, we discussed how AI is changing the software development landscape significantly.Burke Holland highlighted that the use of AI in coding has seen a dramatic increase recently.We talked about the importance of understanding the code produced by AI to maintain quality.Completions in AI tools like GitHub Copilot can enhance a developer's workflow remarkably.Burke shared insights on the difference between completions and agents in AI coding practices.We concluded that while AI can write code, developers still play a crucial role in ensuring its accuracy.Links referenced in this episode:softwarearchitectureinsights.comCompanies mentioned in this episode:MicrosoftVS CodeGitHub CopilotJetBrainsSpeckit

https://clearmeasure.com/developers/forums/ Pierce Boggan is the PM Lead for Visual Studio Code and GitHub Copilot at Microsoft, where he guides the product direction of the world's most popular code editor as it evolves into an AI-native development platform. He joined Microsoft through the Xamarin acquisition more than a decade ago and has worked across mobile tools, Visual Studio, and the Teams Toolkit before taking the helm of the VS Code team in late 2024. Pierce co-hosts the VS Code Insiders Podcast, presented in the GitHub Universe 2025 keynote, and recently helped his team make the historic shift from monthly to weekly releases -- powered by AI. He is also the creator of Primer, an open-source CLI that prepares codebases for AI-assisted development. -------------------------------------------- Mentioned in This Episode Website  Twitter / X  GitHub Podcast  Primer Recent projects / posts: Agent HQ in VS Code announced (Dec 2025) -- unified view for managing local, background, and cloud AI agents GitHub Universe 2025 keynote presenter (Nov 2025) VS Code Insiders Podcast: "VS Code -- 2025 Wrapped" (Dec 2025) Primer CLI -- prepares repos for AI-assisted development (423 stars) nano-banana-mcp -- MCP server enabling image creation in GitHub Copilot VS Code team moved from monthly to weekly releases (Mar 2026 interview)  ---------------------------------------- Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

Get featured on the show by leaving us a Voice Mail: https://bit.ly/MIPVM This episode explores how AI, agents, and prompting are reshaping how software and business solutions are built. Mark Smith and Keith Atherton discuss the shift beyond traditional low-code towards natural language, agent-driven development, where context, outcomes, and governance matter more than interfaces. They examine why developer fundamentals still matter, how generative AI accelerates delivery, and what new makers should focus on as Microsoft investment, tooling, and certifications pivot towards agentic and AI-first approaches. 

Claude Cowork came out of an accident.Felix and the Anthropic team noticed something interesting with Claude Code: many users were using it primarily for all kinds of messy knowledge work instead of coding. Even technical builders would use it for lots of non-technical work.Even more shocking, Claude cowork wrote itself. With a team of humans simply orchestrating multiple claude code instances, the tool was ready after a brief week and a half.This isn't Felix's first rodeo with impactful and playful desktop apps. He's helped ship the Slack desktop app and is a core maintainer of Electron the open-source software framework used for building cross-platform desktop applications, even putting Windows 95 into an Electron app that runs on macOS, Windows, and Linux.In this episode, Felix joins us to unpack why execution has suddenly become cheap enough that teams can “just build all the candidates” and why the real frontier in AI products is no longer better chat, but trusted task execution.He also shares why Anthropic is betting on local-first agent workflows, why skills may matter more than most people realize, and how the hardest questions ahead are about autonomy, safety, portability, and the changing shape of knowledge work itself.We discuss* Felix's path: Slack desktop app, Electron, Windows 95 in JavaScript, and now building Claude Cowork at Anthropic* What Claude Cowork actually is: a more user-friendly, VM-based version of Claude Code designed to bring agentic workflows to non-terminal-native users* Why “user-friendly” does not mean “less powerful”: Cowork as a superset product, much like how VS Code initially looked simpler than Visual Studio but became more hackable and extensible* Anthropic's prototype-first culture: why Cowork was built in 10 days using many pre-existing internal pieces, and how internal prototypes shaped the final product* Why execution is getting cheap: the shift from long memos, specs, and debate toward rapidly building multiple candidates and choosing based on reality instead of theory* The local debate: why Felix thinks Silicon Valley is undervaluing the local computer, and why putting Claude “where you work” is often more powerful* Why Claude gets its own computer: the VM as both a safety boundary and a capability unlock, letting Claude install tools, run scripts, and work more independently without constant approval* Safety through sandboxing: why “approve every command” is not a real long-term UX, and how virtual machines create a middle ground between uselessly safe and dangerously autonomous* How Cowork differs from Claude Code: coding evals vs. knowledge-work evals, different system-prompt tradeoffs, longer planning horizons, and heavier use of planning and clarification tools* Why skills matter: simple markdown-based instructions as a lightweight abstraction layer for reusable workflows, personalized automation, and portable agent behavior* Skills vs. MCPs: why Felix is increasingly interested in file-based, text-native interfaces that tell the model what to do, rather than forcing everything through rigid tool schemas* The portability problem: why personal skills should move across agent products, and the unresolved tension between public reusable workflows and private user-specific context* Real use cases already happening today: uploading videos, organizing files, handling taxes, managing calendars, debugging internal crashes, analyzing finances, and automating repetitive browser workflows* Why AI products should work with your existing stack: Anthropic's bias toward integrating with Chrome, Office, and existing workflows instead of rebuilding every app from scratch* Computer use one year later: how much better it has gotten, why vision plus browser context is such a superpower, and why letting Claude see the thing it is working on changes everything* Why many “AI verticals” may get compressed: specialized wrappers may matter in the short term, but better general models and stronger primitives could absorb a lot of narrow use cases* The future of junior work: Felix's concerns about entry-level roles, labor-market disruption, and whether AI can compress early-career learning into denser simulated experience* Why Waterloo grads stand out: internships, shipping experience, and learning how real teams build products versus purely theoretical academic preparation* The agentic future of the desktop: what it means for Claude to have its own computer, whether AI should act on your machine or a remote one, and how intimacy with personal data changes the product design space* Why Electron still mattered: shipping Chromium as a controlled rendering stack, the limits of OS-native webviews, and why browser engines remain one of the great software abstractions* Anthropic's Labs mentality: wild internal experiments, half-broken future-looking prototypes, and the broader effort to move users from asking questions to delegating increasingly long and valuable tasks* Why the endgame is not just more capability, but more independence: teaching users to trust AI with bigger scopes of work, for longer durations, with fewer interventionsFelix Rieseberg* X: https://x.com/felixrieseberg* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/felixrieseberg* Website: https://felixrieseberg.com/Anthropic* Website: http://anthropic.comFull Video PodTimestamps00:00 — Cheap execution and building all the candidates00:44 — Intro in the new Kernel studio02:47 — What Claude Cowork is04:18 — Why user-friendly can be more powerful05:33 — How Anthropic built Cowork07:09 — Prototype-first product development08:00 — Why local computers still matter09:20 — Skills, primitives, and platform leverage12:13 — Cowork's architecture: VM + Chrome + system prompt15:38 — Felix's own bug-fixing Cowork workflows17:38 — Local-first agents20:16 — Evals, planning, and knowledge-work optimization23:14 — What Anthropic means by evals24:21 — Scaffolding, tools, and why skills matter27:44 — Demo: YouTube uploads and self-generated skills31:03 — Calendar automation and cleaning your desktop34:47 — Browser context and why DOM access matters37:47 — Skills portability and plugins44:36 — Which AI categories survive?46:19 — Junior jobs, simulated work, and labor disruption52:00 — Gradual takeoff vs big-bang takeoff53:42 — Finance, taxes, and enterprise verticals56:24 — Vision and the improvement in computer use57:31 — Why Claude writes its own scripts58:06 — Should Claude have its own computer?1:01:26 — Windows 95 in JavaScript1:03:19 — VM tradeoffs and sandbox design1:07:23 — Approval fatigue and safe delegation1:11:18 — The future of Cowork1:12:27 — What comes next for agentic knowledge work1:15:13 — Electron, Chromium, and desktop software lessons1:22:16 — Multiplayer agents and coworker-to-coworker workflows1:26:05 — Anthropic Labs and closing thoughtsTranscriptAlessio: Hey everyone. Welcome to the Latent Space Podcast, our first one in the new studio. This is Alessio, founder of Kernel Labs, and I'm joined by swyx, editor of Latent Space.swyx: Yeah, so nice to be here. Thanks to, uh, TJ, Alessio, Allen helping to set everything up. It looks beautiful. We even have the logo outside.Yeah, kind.Felix: It's like really nice, right? When you walk in here as a guest, you're like, ah, this is a serious production. You're like, feel it immediately.swyx: Yeah. Felix, you've been, you're, you're currently a product manager of Cowork or,Felix: uh, really Technicswyx: Eng. Yeah. The, the identities are kind of vague member technical staff.Felix: I know member staff is like, the official title will carry around forever.swyx: Yeah. I basically kind of wanted, like we've been. Kinda obsessed. I, I've been using it a lot, even for managing latent space. Like, uh, cowork helps me upload videos and like title things and like edit and everything. It's, it's like really amazing.Alessio: Cool. He said multiple times Cowork has said gi in the group track.swyx: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so we have a second, uh, we have a second channel, uh, for latent space tv. Uh, and I, uh, and uh, we basically, this is our Discord meetup. Um, and I I, we have like Claude Coworks, it might be a GI, I don't know if we, we have, uh, uploaded it yet, but one of the sessions was like a, like a Claude cowork thing.Felix: I, you have to see, I would love to see it. Like, I'm so curious, like one of the most fun parts of my job is like constantly see the weird things people use Cowork for because it's obviously like very hard for us to actually design for specific use cases we do. But like every single person who's like most amazed is usually amazed about a thing that I didn't even expect cowork would be good at.Um, we have a new designer and it's one of the first small tasks. I was like, Hey, we need like a new emoji for cowork for our internal stock. It's like a pretty small thing. I like, can you please do it? And he drew an SVG and just gave it to coworker was like, can you animate this emoji? And now it has like this beautiful loopy animation.Um, and I mean, I think obviously this goes down to like, it turns out you can do more things with code than you expected, but it, it's like that kind of stuff that is really fun to me. So, long story short, I would love to see like, the kind of things you're doing.swyx: I'll pull it up. I'll pull it up.Felix: Yeah. Yeah.swyx: Uh, but before we get into it, I, I think always wanna start with like a top level. What is Claude Cowork for people who haven't heard of it? Haven't tried it out.Felix: Okay. Uh, real quick, Claude Cowork is a user friendly version of Claude Code. So the way it basically works is we have Claude Code and for us, fairly impressive agent harness that over December we noticed more and more people are using either, even though they're not technical, they, they're not at home in the terminal or they are at home in the terminal, but they started using Claude Code for non-coding workloads, right?Like managing expenses or like filling out receipts or organizing a knowledge base. Like there was a big obsidian moment that a lot of people liked and we wanted to capitalize on that, but also bring, bring this capability to people who are not terminal native and who might not know how to like brew and store something.So cowork is Claude Code running in original machine with a little bit of padding, a little bit more guardrails, making it a little safer and a little bit more convenient for people who don't wanna first open up the terminal when they go to work.swyx: It's interesting, uh, that is kind of. Pitch that way as a more user friendly thing because I always feel like it, it, to me, I I treat it as like why I'm familiar with Claude Code.Like we, we did a Claude Code episode Yeah. A year ago. But this one is like even more power user tools ‘cause it, uh, it kind of integrates much better with like clotting Chrome and, uh, in all the, all the other tooling. But like, maybe, maybe that's like a perception thing, right? LikeFelix: No, honestly, I don't think you're wrong.This is like a, a thing I've been thinking a lot about for like the last two weeks. So,swyx: but when they say user friendly, it's like, oh, it's the dumb down version. But no, actually this is the superset.Felix: Yeah. Like, I think a similar thing happened, A similar thing happened to me about 10 years ago, like maybe 12 years ago when I was at Microsoft and we started working on, on Electron and like browser-based technologies and cross-platform stuff.And one of the first use cases was Visual Studio Code, which used to be a website. And the initial narrative was, or Visual Studio Code is, is like a more user-friendly version of Visual Studio. But in a similar vein, I think there was some voices saying, oh, this is. For serious developers, like, we're not gonna use this.Right? For like anything. And I think in the end what happened is people have different stories about why Visual Studio Code became such a big thing. But my personal, my personal belief is that the Hackability and the extendability has like played a pretty big role, right? You can hook in Visual Studio Code that like almost any workload, it's so easy to hack on, so easy to put extensions for it.And I think cowork might be hitting a similar thing where it's very easy to extend and it's very easy to bring into your workflows. Uh, so the convenience I think is a bit of a, it's obviously the thing we strive for as developers, but I think the way people find value in it then is by probably mapping it onto whatever they actually have to do in their job.Alessio: So end of last year, you see the spike of like non-technical usage and clock code. What's the design process to say we should make clock code work? Because I mean, you built it in only 10 days. Um, I'm sure there was some discussion before on whether it's easier to use mean. You know, like making, making like a desktop GUI is obviously one way to do it, but like there's a lot of nuance in the product.Like maybe talk people through what was like the trigger of like, we should build a separate thing. We should not build like a different plot code thing. And then maybe some of the more interesting design decisions that maybe you didn't take.Felix: Yeah, I think philanthropic, we've been thinking about ways to move people who are comfortable with using Claude to answer questions and bring more of the power of like this thing to now like, execute tasks for you.I can like solve problems for you can like build things for you. How do we bring that capability to people who are currently mostly comfortable with like a like question answer paradigm within the chat. And we've had a lot of prototypes around that. Just going back as far as like easily a year and a half.Like we had a lot of people working on that. Um, and internally philanthropic is a very prototype demo, first culture. We have a lot of like internal prototypes that don't reach the public. What Cowork actually became is like we sort of picked the right pieces out of the many prototypes that we had.Right. And that's, that's maybe also like, I think an important qualifier whenever people mention this like 10 day number. I do think it's important to me to mention that within Double Scratch there was like a lot of stuff already happening, right? Like, and I think it's important for people to remember that when you build a website, you use React, you use like a bunch of other things.And this is like a similar scenario with like a lot of pieces we already had. Um, and in terms of decision path, I think we live in like an interesting new world where execution is actually quite cheap.swyx: Mm-hmm.Felix: So maybe, maybe what you would do That's so crazy. The year. I know it's wild.swyx: You should be, ideas are cheap.Execution is the hard part. IFelix: know. And like the, we, we used to live in this world maybe where you would take a product manager and the product manager would go to a number of potential customers and in this like very low bandwidth way, would try to. Try to like tease out what are the problems they're having, what are they willing to buy?Um, and then maybe what can you build to like drive out that need and then you go back and you like draft a spec and you think about it and then like you make a design and you execute it. We internally philanthropic app, not pretty much closer to the point where we're like, don't even write a memo, just like build, like let's build all the candidates very quickly.Let's just build all of them and then pick the best ones. I think the, the decision that is most impactful both for the product as well for the users right now is like the way we put value on your local computer. I think that's a big decision point a lot of people have thought about. Should this thing, whatever it is, should it ultimately run into computer or should it run in the cloud?‘cause they're big trade offs, right?Alessio: I guess like if we solve auth, it would be easy to do in the cloud. But I think like the fact that I can just download any file from anywhere and then put it and cowork there, it's like a big unlock. Um, I mean it's interesting you mentioned reusing certain pieces. I think this is something I've been thinking about even with Claude Code, right?The price of like writing code is going to zero, blah, blah, blah. But it actually seems like the value of having some sort of platform substrate is like increasing because as you build these new things, you can kind of plug them together.Felix: Yeah.Alessio: So I almost feel like when people are saying, oh, the value of a lot of software is gonna zero because you can recreate it, to me it's almost like the opposite.It's like having an existing platform to build on top of. It's like even more valuable because you can kind of bolt things on.Felix: Yeah.Alessio: You have obviously mcps, you have skills, you have like obviously the models, which is a big part. All these things kind of come together. Do you feel like that's a valid way to think about it, where people should invest even more in kind of like primitives.To rebuild on or are you like recreating a lot of it each time because like things change and it's easier to rewrite than reuse?Felix: You know, I think, I think you're right. I think you're right that the holistic platform is really useful. And this is maybe a whole like a somewhat contrarian view to a lot of people in ai.I actually don't think that the future is going to be hyper personalized software down to the point where everyone is running their own version. Like, I actually think it's going to be quite hard for all of us to have our own internal chat tool and like, if I wanna talk to you, likeswyx: howFelix: is that gonna work, right?In the, in the context of cowork and how we build it, I think it's a bit of a combination. Like what the, the execution that gets cheap is not necessarily rebuilding all the primitives. I think our priori, there's also not a lot of value in it. So for instance, my team did not think about rebuilding clock code.We're like very much started with the. The core thesis of this should be Claude Code.Mm-hmm.Felix: And then we'll like build things on top of it. The part of the execution that gets a little cheaper is like, how do you take all of these Lego pieces and put them together in a way that makes sense for users?It's like actually valuable. You have so many different approaches now in terms of what kind of, what kind of things do you actually elevate to a primitive, do you strongly believe that all your products should be built by just combining primitive that the public also has available? Do you keep some things internal?Um, and I think that's still evolving, but I think what's probably gonna go away is like, I'm not sure if it's gonna fully go away, but I'm gonna say, I think for me personally, I will probably no longer try to come up with a really good product without testing up with people. This is not a new concept, but wherever you used to have to make costly decisions around, do we pick technology A or technology B, or do we like, um, build it this way, build it the other way.I really strongly believe now you just build all of them and try them out with a small focus group and then whatever, whatever is better is what you go with. Right. And that, that is probably quite different even from how we maybe worked a year ago. Right. Like, I think, I think this happened very recently.Alessio: Yeah. I started building something in on Electron since you're here. Coincidence. Uh, but then Electron and like SQL Light are like, there's like some issues that like between development and like, uh, building anyway. And I was like, let's just rebuild the whole thing in Swift and just recreated the whole thing in Swift.And it's like, I. It's done.swyx: You know, I didn't take any effort. I, I, I don't even know Swift.Alessio: Yeah, exactly. I was like, I'm the, I'm not reviewing it anyway, whatever. You can write in whatever language you pick, but the important stuff that I did was not write the electron bindings. Yeah. It was like the logic of what happens in the app, you know, and then the model is like, yeah, I can just recreate the same thing as withswyx: Yeah.I, I think you still want, especially for people who are doing like high performance software or like very complex software, uh, you still want like, some view of the architecture. Uh, but you can use markdown for that,Felix: right? Yeah.swyx: Uh, you don't actually have to read the code again. I, I'm still like on a sort of like a definitional thing.Um, can we build a good mental model of Claude Cowork? Um, this is what I have, right? Like you you said it's like fundamentally cloud co. We don't wanna touch it. There's the cloud app, there's clouding Chrome. I think you guys do something different in planning, but, uh, I've been talking with Tariq who is on the cloud co team, and you guys are, he's like, no, we just exposed planning.Maybe we can clarify like, what are the major pieces. That people should be aware. It goes into cowork, like,Felix: okay, I think you basically have them. So really, um, you can, you can take planning more or less out. I think there's a few things that are really valuable in cowork. Um, the virtual machine is probably the most powerful thing.So we currently run like a, we currently run like a lightweight VM and we put clocked out into the vm and we do that for, for, um, a number of reasons. Safety and security is a big one, but even if you, even if you ignore for a second safety and security and you're just like, okay, Yolo, I want this thing to do whatever.It is quite powerful to give Claus on computer that is like generally a good idea. And in terms of architecture and UX and everything else that we've been working on, philanthropic, it often is quite useful for you to like anthropomorphize, um, clot aggressively and just be like, this is a person. What will you do if you give a, if you had a person, right?Yeah. And the analogy I've given my dad this morning who is still like quite insistent on using chat even for like coding things, is if you were a developer and your employer told you that you don't need a computer, they're just gonna like, send you emails with a code and you send emails with code back like that, maybe work for Patrick Miles in the back, but that it's not very effective.Um, so what we can do with the VM is because it's a, it's a Linux system, Claude Code has more or less free reign to install whatever needs to install. It can install Python, it can install no js. We do have strict network ingress and egress controls. So you can still, as, as a user in like plain human language, make it clear to, to the entire system what you're okay with and what you're not okay with.But at no point do we have to ask a real person, like a, like a person who might be in marketing or a lawyer. I'd have to go to a lawyer and be like, are you okay with me installing Homebrew?Alessio: Yeah, yeah.Felix: Right. Because the implications of the question and the answer are complex and nuanced and like, not, not easy to reason about.This gives us a lot of distraction that makes Cloud very powerful. Now then around it, we, we do probably have a number of things that also keeps growing almost every single week that you're probably noticing that make cowork maybe better for certain tasks than just cloud. Cloud on its own. Yeah. But most of those actually live in the system prompt.They're about like, what can we infer about the work that you do? What can we, what can we intru in the system prompt to make that more effective? It's of course the like very tight integration with Cloud and Chrome. You're noticing that a lot of people, especially as the models get better, a lot of people throw up their hands when it comes to MCP connectors in this area.I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna go through like 25 M CCP connectors, click off everywhere and then like half of them don't let me do the things anyway. So Cloud and Chrome is quite powerful because we can just talk to the cloud and Chrome sub agent and that will just do things for you.swyx: Yeah, so, so one example right in MCPI, honestly, I think that the state of MCP is kind of, kind of.Really hard to integrate. Um, I need to, I needed to add, uh, Figma MCP to the coding agent that I use.Felix: Yeah.swyx: Uh, and, but I didn't wanna read the docs, so I just had caught to it. And it's, it's great at reading docs and the same, same way I had to set up like a Google Cloud, um, account for some project I was working on and get some API keys somewhere.And Google Cloud is famously super hard to navigate, so I just didn't wanna deal with any of it. I just used Claude CoworkFelix: within the first week of developing on Core. This happened very, very quickly. Um, I caught myself by starting to use cowork for coding tasks, which is not ostensibly what we built it for, right?We don't need to. But I found myself, um, I found myself like on our internal, internal tool that we have for, to collect crashes and just like debugging information and I found myself sort like picking out the ones that I think we can easily fix versus the ones that might be like kernel corruption or something else on the operating system.And I found myself sort of picking these out and then just telling Clark, go fix this bug. I was like, what am I doing here? Go one level up, tell a cowork, I want you to go to all these crash tools. I want you to find all the bugs that you think are fixable and not like an operating system crash. And then I want you to tell another cloud to like fix all of that.Um, and that's, that's, that's sort of another cloud,swyx: just so it can spin up another instance or,Felix: uh, it, currently what I do is, um, and this is a bit of a hack, but I tell it to use clockwork remote to which website itself? Yeah, that's interesting. So you basically take, if you, if you imagine like a dashboard with like 20 bucks, you, this is remote control or clock or remote, or, sorry, I just wanted to confirm what, the way I'm using it is.I have cowork running and I'm telling cowork, here's where I normally go every morning to find the latest bugs. Go read the entire bug list, separate out which ones are fixable, which ones are, are fixable, and then for the fixable ones, four is this almost loop. For each bug, write a markdown file with a prompt.And then for each markdown v, that is a prompt. Start of a cloud set. So natively Claude Code hasswyx: this concept of subagents. Mm-hmm. And this is basically a subagent, but you're not using the subagent functionality.Felix: I'm not using the subagent functionality. And the reason I'm not is because I'm firing that off as a Claude Code remoteswyx: task.Felix: Yes. That's kind of nice. ‘cause then I can just fire it off. I can go to my next meeting and in Claude Code remote. Now the work is happening.swyx: Mm-hmm. Yeah. You, you see like you're already starting to use the cloud over your local machine. And I think this is one of those things where like. Shouldn't just everything just be cloud first, right?Felix: Ah, this is such a good group. I'm like solely bad about this. I have so many thoughts about that. Okay. So I generally believe that Silicon Valley overall is undervaluing the local computer. And my default argument for that is always how come we're all using MacBooks and not like an iPad or a Chromebook?Um, that there is like still value in, in having a local machine. And now when I think about Clot, it's this entity that is supposed to be very useful to you, like it tremendously useful to you. I think that entity needs to have access to all the same tools you have access to. Otherwise it's gonna be hamstrung in like all these complex ways.And there's, there's sort of two approaches we could take. We could say, okay, we're gonna like one by one chip away at everything that is at your computer and move it into the cloud. That's, that's one way to do it. Um, and I think other products have taken that path. I personally, this is a very personal opinion, but I personally, for the amount of tools that I use.Just don't have the patience to give another tool like permissions to every single thing and keep those permissions up to date. The second thing that I'm still grappling with, and I don't have a good answer for anyone just yet, but the second thing I'm still grappling with is what does it look like for someone to slurp up your entire work and put that in the cloud?Like if I, just as an example, like if you could click a button and it just clone your entire computer into the cloud, is that something that you would want? I'm not totally convinced yet that all everyone will. Mm-hmm. And that is sort of like upstream of all the technical issues we're gonna have. ‘cause like in general, I think the world is not ready for this kind of stuff.Like, I'll give you one quick example that would probably be very easy for us. So as a desktop app, we in theory with your permission, can do a lot of things on your computer, including reading your Chrome cookies. If we really want to do right, we could take your Chrome cookies, you would have to decrypt them for us.We could put those on the cloud if we really felt like it. Pretty easy solution. That would be super cool. We could just be like, oh, we can do all your tasks in the cloud now. Um, a lot of websites, thanks, include it. If, if they see the same authentication from like two different locations, we'll just lock down your account and now you have to go to the branch and be like, okay, I, I'm here with my passport.You actually know that. Wow. Yeah. As tired as well are of the term agent for the age agent future, I think there's a lot of stuff that sort of slowly needs to catch up and until that's the case, the way I, as someone's working on clock and make Cloud most effective is to like put it where you are working.swyx: Anything else? I thought with our mental model, so like, basically like, uh, part of me also just want, like the more I understand how it works, the more I can use it to its full potential. Right?Felix: Yeah.swyx: And so what I'm get hearing from you is you told me to delete the planning thing. You're not doing anything special on, on the, that's only exclusive to Qua cowork.Felix: We have some tricks for this sort of like change week over week. We eval cowork maybe against different use cases than he would evil clock code, right? If you think about it this way. Okay, so like clock code is our eval clock cowork. Yeah. So clock code is like quite optimized for coding tasks and we mostly value it whether or not we're getting better or worse depending on how good it is at like a typical suite job.And Clark Cowork on the other hand, we evaluate more against typical knowledge work, the kind of stuff he would find in finance or in like maybe a, like in like a legal office. Um, my personal use case is always like managing my things, like managing my personal mortgage or something like that, right? Or like wealth planning for me and my family.Those are the kinds of use cases we eval, clock cowork on. And what you might be picking up on is like the subtle changes we make to the system. Prompt what we put in the system, prompt how we steer, clot with the tools we give it. Um, like either it'd be better in one or the other direction and whether there's a trade off, try us exist a lot.CLO code will be better of a code and Claude Cowork will be better. For non-coding tasks, will those gaps still exist in the next three generations of models? It's like a little unclear to me though.swyx: Yeah,Felix: because right now these like hyper optimizations we make, I'm not sure for how long they're still be relevant.swyx: I think what I was referring to was also, it, it just, uh, it qualitatively felt different when I probably, it's just all prompting and I'm reading too much into it, but like the, the fact that it comes out with like a nine step plan, I can edit the plan and give feedback and, and, and see it execute the plan.Yeah. It felt more long range than in Claude Code, but maybe that already existed in Claude Code and you just build a nicer UI for it.Felix: It's kind of both. Um, like if the Clark Code people who build the planning functionalities would city, they probably say yes, we have all of those things in Clark code and they do.Um, I think people tend to give cowork. Tasks that are maybe of longer time horizon, I thought isswyx: so long. Yeah.Felix: That's like one thing, right? It's just like that the, the chunk of work tends to be maybe a little bigger. And then the second thing is that because the work, when it gets longer, it gets a little bit more ambiguous.We do tell co-work to make heavy use of the planning tool or to make heavy use of the ask user question tool, right? We do want it to come up with like. Different scenarios of, okay, tease out what the user actually wants. Don't go off to work for like four hours and then come back with the wrong thing.And you're probably picking up on that.swyx: Yeah.Felix: Um, I wish I could tell you I like built this magical thing and it's like, there's some secret sauce,swyx: but No, no, no. I mean, it's, it's just clarity is good that, you know, engineers just want to know. Yeah. They can, they can plan around it. And then I think also for me, um, I am realizing I have to switch to my, my other machine because this is a new machine that doesn't have my session.But, uh, yeah, the, the, the planning is really important for, for me to like approve or like to see whether it's like, it's right. The ask is, the question is so beautifully presented. I mean, it also, it also available in like cursor and, and in Claude Code. But like, I, I think like it's so nice to see that it, like it's kind of for me like to understand that it gets me, it gets what I want to do.Felix: Yeah.swyx: Yeah.Felix: It probably very hardswyx: just on the topical evals. Mm-hmm. When you say eval, I think people are very vague about what it means. Is it just like vibe testing or do you have like automated programmatic evals of Claude Cowork?Felix: When we say eval, uh, what we really mean is that we essentially take the entire transcript, including all the tools that clot has available ultimately to it, and we then measure what are the outputs, depending on what we tweak, right?So we do run that a lot. We use that in training. Um, we use that in, in like, if you sort of separate out post training from like the scaffolding around it. Cowork sort of exists in the scaffolding space, but obviously we also train on it a little bit. Um, so when we say eval, we mean given the certain transcript, what do the outputs look like?Including the file outputs as well as like the actual token outputs, like the ones that you see in the chat window.Alessio: I'm curious, um, how much of the failure modes are the model intelligence versus like the usage of the end tool to put the intelligence in? Like the well planning is like a good example, right?It's like one thing is to come up with a plan. The other thing is like make a nice spreadsheet. Yeah. That kind of runs you through the plan. Like how have you seen that? Well,Felix: the thing that I grapple with a lot is that whatever scaffolding you come up with, I think we still have a bit of sort of like model overhang where the model is dramatically more capable than right.Users end up using it for. And I think part of that is that we're just not getting the model all the tools to do all the things that's theory capable of, right? There's like one thing, um, however, whenever you do build the scaffolding, I'm sort of wondering at what point, at what point will that scaffolding go away and like how much you invest in figuring out what the right scaffolding is.It's kind of up to, it's a little bit of a bet. And one thing that I as an NJ quite enjoy is that like working in philanthropic and working at a frontier lab, I maybe have a little bit more insight into what's coming, coming down the chute in terms of like, what's the next model, what is the model capable of?What is good at, what is it bad at? And I'm, I'm increasingly wondering, is the right thing for us to like really invest too much in sort of these like scaffolding corrections where the model might otherwise not misbehave, but just not do the thing that you want?Alessio: Yeah.Felix: Or is it to just like give it as many capabilities as possible, try to make those safe so there's the worst case scenarios, likeno status might be otherwise.And then just simply wait a second for the next model drop. I'm personally, currently more leaning into the ladder. I think we're gonna see a lot of like applications and companies that do very impressive things with ai that in the short term might seem very effective ‘cause they're very specialized to individual use cases.But I think once models get better generalization and get better at like those specific use cases without being super guided on those, I'm not sure how long that's gonna stick around. And you can kind of, kind of already see this in like skills and NCP servers, right? Mm-hmm. We've, we've already seen sort of this like slow shift from MCP service to skills.And like, maybe a good example is Barry who made skills. He was initially hacking on something that honestly looked a lot, looked, looked a lot like what Cowork does today. It was sort of thinking about what if cowork, but for like people who don't wanna build code. Mm-hmm. And, um, he too did that as a prototype inside the desktop app.One of the first use cases we thought of were, okay, what, what are like coding like use cases that could really benefit from graphical interfaces and like from being a little separated from the actual underlying code. And everyone comes with the same answers. Data analysis,Alessio: right?Felix: Yeah. Or saying how many users do we have today?How many, like, it's always data analysis. And I think the thing that ultimately led to skills is that we wanted to connect this little prototype to our data warehouse and. The team very quickly discovered that like instead of building a custom tool for the thing to talk our data warehouse, they just like meet and embarked on follow like mm-hmm.Dear Claude, if you want to get data, here's the end point. Here's what the API looks like. You'll figure it out.swyx: Ah.Felix: And then it be hand over control. Yeah, yeah. Also just like maybe go one step up in the layer of abstractions, right. Just, yeah. Instead of, instead of telling the thing, here's ACL I, please call the CLI, or here's an MCP.Please call this ECT shape. Just like this is the end point. If you wanna know something, if you post here, maybe you can do post sql. It's gonna be okay. And that ended up being so effective that they started trying the same pattern of like just giving the model a markdown file that describes whatever it needs to do.That the whole thing eventually became skills and we're like. We should package this up. This is a good idea.swyx: Yeah. Um, we've had Barry Mahesh, uh, on, on our conference and uh, he's uh, definitely got a good idea there.Felix: Yeah.swyx: I wanted to show you the, how I've been using Claude Cowork.Felix: Uh, this is was my favorite part.swyx: This is this. So this is like me, uh, this is how we run the Discord. Uh, we literally, uh, at first I didn't trust Cloud Core. This was my very first usage.Felix: Okay.swyx: Right. So then I was like, okay, I will just try to manually download from Zoom all my recordings and upload it to YouTube. Yeah. Because this is a very laborious process.I got a click, click, click YouTube, um, isn't super user friendly. Uh, and it just did it. And then I was like, actually, you know, even the download from Zoom part, I should also. Put into Claude Cowork, and then I did it right. Here's a bunch of, and it starts compacting here, and it, and it, it starts to even be able to do things like look through the individual frames of the video to name the video so I can upload it auto automatically.Oh, that is, and this replaces my job as a YouTuber. We will forever appreciate your creative Yes. You know, and so that's great. Uh, but then by the way, it compacts and makes, makes like a new thing, right? So I, I don't, I don't have the initial, initial thing, but then I asked it to make its own skills so that it, so that something that's repetitive and one-off and human guided becomes more automated and I can use the skills independently and reuse them.Uh, and it obviously you can write skills and that goes into context and skills at the bottom here, which is, which is so nice. Um, so I have all these skills that, that I now sort of do on a weekly basis. Uh, I know you've released scheduled Coworks, which I haven't done yet, butFelix: course I should try them. I, I think this is like so wonderful and fun for me to see because.One thing that is very fun for me about skills in particular is that they're so easy to make. Like anyone can make a skill, like a text message, could be a skill, and they can be so hyper personalized to you. And this is like sort of the subtraction layer, right? Like, um, I, I'm just guessing, but I assume, heck, you are very good at your job.You're probably given this thing some guidance about how to do it, right? I,swyx: I just said, wrap everything up into, into a skill, right?Felix: Yeah.swyx: And then, uh, and then I was like, actually, sometimes I might need to break, uh, things apart because some parts fail or some parts might be needed in individually. So I told it to split one skill into three skills.So it's like a skill splitting thing, and then there's like a parent skill that just orchestrates all of them if I want to use that. You know, like, um, I think that's, that's like really good. Uh, and, and, uh, there's, there's one more part, which is the, uh, Google Chrome thing that I told you about.Felix: Yeah.swyx: Where I'm like, okay, you know, what's better than uploading, using Claude Coworks to YouTube?Like actually. Looking at the docs to like programmatically upload to YouTube and then putting that in a skill. And I've never done that before. I don't want to deal with Google Cloud. Yeah. So Claude Cowork does it for me.Felix: That is really cool.swyx: So, so I, I just, I don't care. I just, like, I do a thing. I don't, it doesn't really matter.Felix: That is really cool. And then you've, I assume paired the skill just with the script that it's built.swyx: Yeah, no, I just update, update the skills.Felix: Oh, that is beautiful. Yeah. That's wonderful.swyx: It's kind of like a skill, like, uh, uh, basically I think like the way that people ease into Claude Cowork is like take a knowledge work task that you would normally be clicking around for and then, uh, try to turn, turn that, and then you do the, okay, well what if you went further?Okay. And then when, if you went further, when, if you, and it sort of expand the scope of cowork as you gain trust with it and, and also teach it how to replace you.Felix: Yeah. It's like a little bit like playing factorial, but for your own life. Uh, like you say, you start really small.swyx: Yeah.Felix: You start automating something really tiny and like.Once it clicks, you keep adding onto this like automation empire. Just like make your life easier and easier. My favorite skill has been, um, every single morning Kohlberg starts looking at my calendar and make sure that there's conflicts because people tend to schedule a lot of meetings, sometimes last minute, sometimes miss it soft and painful.And a lot of products have existed like that A lot. I've written in the custom prompt there. I haven't made it a skill, um, honestly should.swyx: Yeah.Felix: But I've given it like pretty clear instructions about okay, here are some people, if they book over other meetings, I'm probably gonna go to their meeting. Like if Dario schedules a meeting.swyx: Right.Felix: Not try to reschedule down. Right. Um, and I think there's some other rules in there about like what kind of meetings I care more about what kind of meetings I care less about. What is okay to like, maybe pun like when I want to be, when I want to be working, when I don't want to be working. And it's those really small things that I can think kind of click with people.Right. When we launch co-work, I think one of the US races that went most viral on Twitter. X was clean up your desktop, which is stuff, because silly, that's such a smart thing, right? Like you don't need to model to clean up your desktop. Not really. Um,swyx: like this, like clean up my desktop.Felix: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.swyx: I need to, I need to choose my desktop, right? I guess give it access to my desktop.Felix: Yeah.swyx: Okay. Uh, okay. This is very scary. Oh, we'll do it.Alessio: I did, I did it with my downloads folder. It was like, you have so many term sheets and there's like eight copies of your rental lease for your office. I was like, all right.Like, don't yell at me.Felix: It's like, it's not such a small task. And then like, I, I would never go out there and normally otherwise and tell people I've pulled a product. It can organize your folder. Right. Um, because it feels small. But I think to your point like,swyx: oh, here's, here's the, here's the ask user questions.Felix: Yeah.swyx: Uh,Felix: beautiful. Right. Elite obvious junk. You probably shouldn't click that.Alessio: No.Felix: If he's not done right.swyx: As long as it's reversible, I don'tAlessio: make up blend to,swyx: yeah. Uh, yeah. No, I, I have a, I have a typical, everything is super messy folder. So, yes. I think this, this is super helpful. So this is a pretty simple task.Mm-hmm. But I've, okay, here it is. Right. Here's the progress. I don't see this in, that's why I'm like, this gotta be something different than, uh, than Claude Code, because I'm like, weFelix: do. Yeah. That's, we do system prompt that. We're like, all right. We want you to think about like, this task Yeah. Methodology.Yeah.swyx: And then I can, I can, I can do like little suggestions for, for, for these things. It's beautiful. Look at this. I, I can, I can like say like, oh, don't do that. Don't do this. It's amazing.Felix: I'm so happy. You like it. Um, I mean, the other way around, like we're part of the Clark core team, if you would like this in Clark COVID.swyx: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so, so yeah, I mean, uh, this is really good. Obviously I, I'm like kind of raving about it. Uh, you know, I have other things like sign up for pg e so if you can do phone calls for me, that'd be great. Um, I, I do, peopleFelix: have done that. Obviously you can't do that natively, but people have done that with like, various other providers.swyx: Yeah. Uh, and then this is like signing up for the Figma MCP. Um, I, I really am trying to do like everything, um, data analysis as well. I do think, um, oh, design to code, uh, very, very good. Right? So like, here's a Figma file, take it. And then this is where like a lot of other tasks is like knowledge work, like replace my manual clicking, but this is no, I would normally use Claude Code or uh, Claude Code for this, but because I perceive that you have better Chrome integrationFelix: mm-hmm.swyx: I, I think you can actually do a better job of this. And I, this, this is one shot at my, uh, conference website.Felix: That's pretty cool. Like at some point I would love to like, hear how you feel about code. In the desktop apps, which is like I never use, which is the, the same team. Same team.swyx: So I use the call code in terminal, which I, I perceive to be the default way of cloud coding.Felix: So one thing this has,swyx: sorry, I'm just like, I'm notFelix: here, I'm not here. All products. Can I talk about other stuff? Like I, I'm not sure if people out there wanna like hear me advertise my stuff for like an hour. Please do that. Um, this thing is like a builtin browser, which is a thing a lot of products have said.Yeah, it's a builtin browser. And I think giving cloud eyes into like what you're actually working on makes it so much more effective. And that's probably what you've seen in cohort because it can see Chrome, it can like debug the dom, it can like see things. Um, that does make it more powerful.swyx: Yeah. So, so I think, uh, my mental model was kind broken.‘cause I only use this cowork because I thought it had a, a browser thing in it. But I understand that the Claude Code app. The app version of Claude Code does have a built-in browser. I've seen, I've seen this preview thing.Felix: Yeah.swyx: I just, I've never used it.Felix: But in the end, in the end, you sort of have it by hard.Yeah. You basically get the same thing. Right? Like the, the, the additional skill that you're describing is chart is better if we can see what it's working on. Right. That's, that's sort of like the summary here and like whether it's using your Chromeswyx: Yeah.Felix: Or it's just like making up its own little like browser.It doesn't really make a big difference because either way it's gonna see what it's working on and that just makes it much better. And then you don't have to run QA for your cloud.swyx: Why doesn't it pick up my existing Claude Code sessions? ‘cause I, I mean, obviously I've used Claude Code, but Excellent question.Um, don't have a good answer other than like, we're honest. Just haven't Yeah. This is what the Open AI team does. Okay. Uh, cool. I I I don't have other, like, I, I just, I, I do wanna expand people's minds and also maybe show people if they haven't really done it, but like, I, I think it's very interesting how I sometimes use this more than I use, I mean, I use dia, right?Yeah. Um, I, and I use, uh, I've used like all the other agentic browsers and philanthropic didn't have to build an agentic browser because you just had Claude Cowork and that's enough.Felix: Yeah. I also think like maybe integrating with number of excellent browsers out there, it's like currently on my personal priority list, a little higher than like trying to rebuild a browser from scratch.Yeah. You know, never say never, but I think going back to this idea of like, we wanna plug this into an entire existing workflow, I think our goal is actually to not replace any of the applications we have in your computer. But instead of like, work really well within a new workflow,Alessio: make the new one. Yeah.Are, it seems that nowadays, especially on the browser, most of the innovation is like user ergonomics. It's not really like the underlying browser engine. So I feel like to call it, it doesn't really matter if it's like the, uh, or Chrome or Alice, whatever.Felix: Yeah. We wanna, we wanna meet you wherever you are.Which is like, like obviously I would say that, but it's also just generally true because I don't wanna shrink my potential user base artificially by saying, okay, like, I'm gonna start building for the people who are willing to switch browsers.Alessio: Right.Felix: That's such a, like, you know, like many lawsuits have been filed over who gets to review the browser and like a lot of money has switched hands over the question of like, which browser is default and which search engine is default within the browser.Um, I just wanna build for, yeah, I wanna build for swyx essentially. Like, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna build for people who have a number of annoying tasks that they feel like. Maybe clock could do it. Could do it for them.Alessio: Yeah. What do you think about skills portability? I think there's been one thing, I use another thing called zo, which is kinda like a cloud computer plus agent.And I have a skill to add visitors to the office. Yeah. So whenever somebody has to come in after hours, they need to check in downstairs. Um, but I wanna like text the thing, so it doesn't really work in, in cowork, but now that skill is in the zone harness and it's not in my cowork thing. And then if I make a change, it's gotta, I gotta sync them.How do you see that going? Like I see memory as like. Cloud personal, kinda like, I don't necessarily want my memories to be cross thing.Felix: Yeah.Alessio: But I do want my skills to be cross agent that I use. I think with MTPs, people do the same thing. It's like, oh, Mt. P Gateway. Mt P registry. I don't really know if that's like a business.So I'm curious like if you've had any thoughts in the area.Felix: I think for me, this is sort of where I go back to the really basic primitives for our skills are file-based instead of like this complicated thing that exists inside a place somewhere that is like super proprietary. I'm really leaning into the idea of like, it's all just files and vultures, and that makes it very portable on its own.Right. We do have skills as part of this container format, which was just called plugins.Alessio: Mm-hmm.Felix: And plugins are available both for Claude Code and Claude Code work the same format, and you can install plugins. This works in cowork today. You can basically say, I'm gonna add a whole, like just a GitHub repo as a.Skills marketplace or like a plugin marketplace. And that's how we're doing portability. I think we have a lot of room left to grow in. How do we make it easy for people to know that they can write skills? How do we make it easy for them to just like, share a skill with you? Because obviously all the words I just said, right?Like I'm losing most of the knowledge worker base out there, right. And start by saying, oh, you can connect to GitHub repo. It's not exactly how most people will end up working in like a general knowledge worker space. Um, but I think there's something there. And another thing that's there that I think has not really been properly explored is the, the, the combination of which part of the skill is very portable and then which part of the skill is like very personal to you.Right. And I think that's something we haven't really solved as an industry. Hmm.swyx: It's like, which, how you wanna introduce more structure to the skill or have always have like. Public skill, private skill, you know, pair. Yeah, yeah. Kind of. I think there'sFelix: like a, like the easiest way to do this, which is we do like use string interpolation or something.Right, right. Yeah, yeah. Insert username here, insert like phone number, insert, like known folder, locations, that kind of stuff. Um, that's probably clunky. That's why we haven't built it. Um, but I do think someone is going to come up with like an interesting way to keep everything we like about skills. The portability is just a file, it's just marked down.It's just text, honestly. Right. Like a text file words. The complete lack of structure, which means you don't need any kind of tutorial to write a skill. Just like explain it to Claude the way he would explain it to me and Claude will probably get it before I work. Mm-hmm. Right? You're just like, for booking a flight, tell Claude how to book a flight the same way we tell him somewhere.I just started working here today. But combine that with a very like, personal thing. Um, maybe we'll stick with a booking a flight example. I don't actually think. AI should be booking flights. I think the tools we have is yes.swyx: Yeah. Finally, somebody says it. It's the default demo that everyone's making.Felix: I'mswyx: like, I even against like booking demos, it is not a good showcase.Felix: Yeah. I'm like, I just wanna book my flight myself. But, um, I think there's a lot of things that have a personal and a non-personal component and that's maybe why people reach for flight booking because some things are very universal. Yeah. Super flight is usually better, right? Like few people try to book the most expensive flight.And then some things are quite personal about like what times you prefer, which seat you prefer, which airports you prefer. Combining that and like a skill format that is actually portable, compatible, easy to understand for people. I think that would be very exciting. We just haven't figured it out yet.Alessio: Yeah, I think the text part every, I think everybody by now has some sort of like cloud file thing. Either Dropbox, Google Drive, whatever. So it feels like in a way it should basically like sim link. My skills into all my agent harnesses. Yeah. Just keep those ing like we have internally this like valuable tokens repo, which is like all the commands sub agents.It's good. Uh, and then I build like a TUI where you can start it and be like, you know, install this command and this three sub agents into this agent in this folder and just copy paste this. It doesn't do anything. It literally cp the file into that. But I feel like there should be something similar where like whenever I go into a new thing, it's like, hey, here's like the link to exactly the cloud folder and just bring down these skills into this.Yeah. Like today it doesn't quite work like that. Like if I install a new agent, I cannot, I have to like copy paste all the skills and I don't even know where they are.Felix: Yeah.Alessio: That's like the big problem. It's like where do I find them?Felix: Yeah.Alessio: Um, so I'm curious like in the future like that, that almost feels like my personal productivity thing will be my skills.Felix: Yeah.Alessio: Is not really the product that I use. Everybody has access to the same product. But today there's, that just looks like copy pasting ME files, IFelix: think so many things I, I really like thinking about agents and LLMs just as like another coworker. So many attempts have made to build documentation companies that are like, oh, we're gonna solve oil documentation problems.Um, I myself, like spend a little bit of time working in notion, right? I'm like deeply familiar with the concept of let's get everyone on the same page. Mm-hmm. Right? And what you're basically saying here is you want all your agents to be on the same page about your preferences, about the skills, about the way they ought to work and like how they ought to execute.And I'm not sure what the right thing is going to be if it's going to be some, some company that can say, all right, we're as an independent body, we're not trying to like, push into any particular product. It's our job to be like the skill authority, and we provide, I don't know, we're gonna be the Dropbox of skills and we can just sim link us into all the products we want to use.I'm not sure that's gonna be viable business, but as, as an idea, it would be cool.Alessio: Yeah. Yeah. I think so many things are just going away as businesses. It's like, how am I supposed to do it? I'm not even asking somebody to make a product about it. Like yeah. I wanna personally know. And there's things like you said, it's like you almost wanna skill and then interpolate it between personal and work.So if I'm booking a fly for work, it's different than I'm booking a flight personally.Felix: Yeah.Alessio: In some ways, yeah. But like a lot of the scaffolding is the same, you know? Cool.Felix: I mean, as an engineer I will tell you like, you know, technic a person to technic a person. I will just be like siblings.Alessio: Well that's what, that's what I do.We call that MD and agents that MD's just the same how sim length. And so it is like, that works, but it feels like, yeah, I don't know. MaybeFelix: you can always go one, you can always tell cowork problem and then cowork will solve it for you. Just make the siblings. That's like one way to do it.Alessio: That's true.That's true. All right. Everything is called cowork.Felix: Uh, potentially spicy. Question for both of you.swyx: Uh, which of these industries will go away?Alessio: Okay, so what Felix was saying before is interesting. There's busy like. The short term pressure of like, we need to turn these tokens into valuable things, which is I should build the last mile product that harness the model.And then there's the question of like, long term, which ones are gonna still be valuable? And I think you're kind of seeing this today with like, uh, you know, the coding space in a way is kind of like everybody's moving up and up in stack because you need more than just turning tokens into code. I think search, like enterprise search is kind of saying the same thing.Like with G Clean and like all these different companies is like, at the end of the day, if Cowork is the one doing all the work, the search itself is like such a small part that like, I don't know if I'm really gonna pay that much money just to do search. It's almost like everything is like a cowork vertical.So like how much can cowork first party support?swyx: Mm-hmm.Alessio: And how much can it not? I think for a lot of these things, the planning thing that you were showing do Which one? The planning. The planning.swyx: Okay. Yeah. Yeah.Alessio: That's one thing where like most of the value that these agents provide is like they're better at planning for specific tasks.Yeah. And have better tools for it.swyx: Yeah.Alessio: But I think the models are now moving in that direction and they have the right harnesses and they're on your computer. So for me it's almost like if for the end customer trusts your startup to be the provider of that task result, then I think that works. This is, uh, something that, this is a shortswyx: spike that we're, we're working on.Uh, yeah.Felix: I think, look, I'll, I'll, I'll tell you this, like I don't think I'm the best person to like actually estimate which industry is going to be hit the hardest. But I do think that at philanthropic as a group of people, we're deeply worried about the impact. That the tools are going to have on the labor market, especially for like junior employees that, because I think, I think it's only honest to say that when we talk about automating a lot away, a lot of the work that we personally find annoying that we maybe think's not the best use of our time.In a lot of industries, that kind of work would've been given to a junior entry level employee. Yeah. Right. And I think it's, it's only, it's only right to be really worried about that and like worry what that's going to do in particular to people like enter the shop market.Alessio: Mm-hmm. I have a solution for that.Which you make them, you create simulative jobs for them.Felix: Okay.Alessio: So this is, this is like half joke, half true. So if you think about software engineering, when you're like a junior engineer, you work like 1, 2, 3 years. And in those three years there's like maybe like a handful of moments where like you really learn something.And then a bunch of other days where like you're not really progressing.Felix: Yeah.Alessio: I think now we can use AI and these models to actually like shortcut these careers and almost like simulate the early years of your work and like just make them like super dense and like these learnings, it's like, hey, we're working on this feature, which is like a distributed system and you need to learn this thing that might take three months at a company.And so you take three months here, it's like we're just simulating the whole thing. It's actually not a real thing. And in one week we kind of speed run through the whole thing and you kind of learn your lesson from there. And we kind of repeat that in like one year. You basically get like three years worth of like projects and experience.Yeah. I think it's harder for like things like sales or for things like, you know, marketing because you don't really have a way to get the feedback loop. But I think a lot of it, it sounds kind of silly, it's like you're making the new effect job, but it's almost like you go to college, right? People pay to learn how to do it, and this might feel similar where it's like, hey, we have the.Jane Street Simulator is like, you wanna come work at Jane Street? We'll just put you in the simulator for like three months.Felix: Wow.Alessio: And you'll come out of it. It's like, you know, I'm ready.Felix: So there, there is an aspect here. I'm not an expert enough to like actually know what, what is going to happen to marketing or legal or finance, right?Like, I don't work in those jobs and I, I don't think I should talk about them, but I am an engineer and I think I have a pretty good idea of what engineering is like. And I think one thing we're sort of seeing is that as a company and also as, as the public, we're like deeply worried about entry level, but we're also seeing more senior engineers accelerate it.If like they're more productive. They, they actually increase the value they provide. And the thing that I'm thinking about a lot is the fact that even before all of this happened, um, I've always had a lot of respect for the University of Waterloo and the, the new grads that have joined my teams as from coming from the University of Waterloo always felt like.More ready than new grads will like literally spend their entire time at the university regardless of how good, but never actually had to work inside an environment where you have to ship things that eventually will be used by users. And I'm, I'm, I'm German. I like initially went to German University and I think the, the, the like information systems programs, there tend to be very theoretical, right?Like I often give people the example of like trying

From bug-busting AI that's transforming Firefox to personal coding breakthroughs, the team breaks down how practical applications are cutting through skepticism and reshaping developer workflows. Plus, hear why lighter Patch Tuesdays are refreshing from time to time! Windows 11 Patch Tuesday's familiar list of updates: Network speed test, Camera tilt and pan controls, sysmon, RSAT improvements, Quick Machine Recovery improvements, WEBP support for desktop wallpaper, Emoji 16.0, etc. It's been a light year so far for Patch Tuesday features - that's a good thing New builds for Canary, Dev, and Beta late last week. Canary is nothing, Dev/Beta get Administrator Protection, Drag Tray refinements, File Explorer improvements, and fixes Android 16 QPR3 brings Desktop Mode to Android devices - and a hands-on with Pixel phones and tablets shows the way forward for Android-based laptops later this year Intel has new gaming processors for creators and gamers and they look excellent and are inexpensive AI and dev Copilot Cowork is literally Claude Cowork in Microsoft 365 - "Wave 3" for Microsoft 365 Copilot begins with a lot of agentic features, in private preview at first Google Docs, Sheets, Slides, and Drive get big Gemini updates for consumers and Workspace customers Mozilla partners with Anthropic to use AI to find bugs, and it's paying off nicely Visual Studio Code moves to a weekly update schedule The .NET 11 Preview 2 is here Xbox and gaming Microsoft starts talking up next Xbox console! It's called Project Helix and, yes, it will run Windows games New Xbox Mode is on the way Project Helix dev kits to game makers in 2027 Satya Nadella explains why he/Microsoft are "long" on gaming Gaming is a core identity for Microsoft alongside platforms, developers, and knowledge workers Tips and picks Tip of the week: Nostalgia with a purpose App pick of the week: Stardock Clairvoyance RunAs Radio this week: SQL Server in 2026 with Bob Ward Brown liquor pick of the week: Canadian Centennial Rye Whisky Hosts: Leo Laporte, Paul Thurrott, and Richard Campbell Download or subscribe to Windows Weekly at https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly Check out Paul's blog at thurrott.com The Windows Weekly theme music is courtesy of Carl Franklin. Join Club TWiT for Ad-Free Podcasts! Support what you love and get ad-free audio and video feeds, a members-only Discord, and exclusive content. Join today: https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: helixsleep.com/windows cachefly.com/twit

From bug-busting AI that's transforming Firefox to personal coding breakthroughs, the team breaks down how practical applications are cutting through skepticism and reshaping developer workflows. Plus, hear why lighter Patch Tuesdays are refreshing from time to time! Windows 11 Patch Tuesday's familiar list of updates: Network speed test, Camera tilt and pan controls, sysmon, RSAT improvements, Quick Machine Recovery improvements, WEBP support for desktop wallpaper, Emoji 16.0, etc. It's been a light year so far for Patch Tuesday features - that's a good thing New builds for Canary, Dev, and Beta late last week. Canary is nothing, Dev/Beta get Administrator Protection, Drag Tray refinements, File Explorer improvements, and fixes Android 16 QPR3 brings Desktop Mode to Android devices - and a hands-on with Pixel phones and tablets shows the way forward for Android-based laptops later this year Intel has new gaming processors for creators and gamers and they look excellent and are inexpensive AI and dev Copilot Cowork is literally Claude Cowork in Microsoft 365 - "Wave 3" for Microsoft 365 Copilot begins with a lot of agentic features, in private preview at first Google Docs, Sheets, Slides, and Drive get big Gemini updates for consumers and Workspace customers Mozilla partners with Anthropic to use AI to find bugs, and it's paying off nicely Visual Studio Code moves to a weekly update schedule The .NET 11 Preview 2 is here Xbox and gaming Microsoft starts talking up next Xbox console! It's called Project Helix and, yes, it will run Windows games New Xbox Mode is on the way Project Helix dev kits to game makers in 2027 Satya Nadella explains why he/Microsoft are "long" on gaming Gaming is a core identity for Microsoft alongside platforms, developers, and knowledge workers Tips and picks Tip of the week: Nostalgia with a purpose App pick of the week: Stardock Clairvoyance RunAs Radio this week: SQL Server in 2026 with Bob Ward Brown liquor pick of the week: Canadian Centennial Rye Whisky Hosts: Leo Laporte, Paul Thurrott, and Richard Campbell Download or subscribe to Windows Weekly at https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly Check out Paul's blog at thurrott.com The Windows Weekly theme music is courtesy of Carl Franklin. Join Club TWiT for Ad-Free Podcasts! Support what you love and get ad-free audio and video feeds, a members-only Discord, and exclusive content. Join today: https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: helixsleep.com/windows cachefly.com/twit

From bug-busting AI that's transforming Firefox to personal coding breakthroughs, the team breaks down how practical applications are cutting through skepticism and reshaping developer workflows. Plus, hear why lighter Patch Tuesdays are refreshing from time to time! Windows 11 Patch Tuesday's familiar list of updates: Network speed test, Camera tilt and pan controls, sysmon, RSAT improvements, Quick Machine Recovery improvements, WEBP support for desktop wallpaper, Emoji 16.0, etc. It's been a light year so far for Patch Tuesday features - that's a good thing New builds for Canary, Dev, and Beta late last week. Canary is nothing, Dev/Beta get Administrator Protection, Drag Tray refinements, File Explorer improvements, and fixes Android 16 QPR3 brings Desktop Mode to Android devices - and a hands-on with Pixel phones and tablets shows the way forward for Android-based laptops later this year Intel has new gaming processors for creators and gamers and they look excellent and are inexpensive AI and dev Copilot Cowork is literally Claude Cowork in Microsoft 365 - "Wave 3" for Microsoft 365 Copilot begins with a lot of agentic features, in private preview at first Google Docs, Sheets, Slides, and Drive get big Gemini updates for consumers and Workspace customers Mozilla partners with Anthropic to use AI to find bugs, and it's paying off nicely Visual Studio Code moves to a weekly update schedule The .NET 11 Preview 2 is here Xbox and gaming Microsoft starts talking up next Xbox console! It's called Project Helix and, yes, it will run Windows games New Xbox Mode is on the way Project Helix dev kits to game makers in 2027 Satya Nadella explains why he/Microsoft are "long" on gaming Gaming is a core identity for Microsoft alongside platforms, developers, and knowledge workers Tips and picks Tip of the week: Nostalgia with a purpose App pick of the week: Stardock Clairvoyance RunAs Radio this week: SQL Server in 2026 with Bob Ward Brown liquor pick of the week: Canadian Centennial Rye Whisky Hosts: Leo Laporte, Paul Thurrott, and Richard Campbell Download or subscribe to Windows Weekly at https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly Check out Paul's blog at thurrott.com The Windows Weekly theme music is courtesy of Carl Franklin. Join Club TWiT for Ad-Free Podcasts! Support what you love and get ad-free audio and video feeds, a members-only Discord, and exclusive content. Join today: https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: helixsleep.com/windows cachefly.com/twit

From bug-busting AI that's transforming Firefox to personal coding breakthroughs, the team breaks down how practical applications are cutting through skepticism and reshaping developer workflows. Plus, hear why lighter Patch Tuesdays are refreshing from time to time! Windows 11 Patch Tuesday's familiar list of updates: Network speed test, Camera tilt and pan controls, sysmon, RSAT improvements, Quick Machine Recovery improvements, WEBP support for desktop wallpaper, Emoji 16.0, etc. It's been a light year so far for Patch Tuesday features - that's a good thing New builds for Canary, Dev, and Beta late last week. Canary is nothing, Dev/Beta get Administrator Protection, Drag Tray refinements, File Explorer improvements, and fixes Android 16 QPR3 brings Desktop Mode to Android devices - and a hands-on with Pixel phones and tablets shows the way forward for Android-based laptops later this year Intel has new gaming processors for creators and gamers and they look excellent and are inexpensive AI and dev Copilot Cowork is literally Claude Cowork in Microsoft 365 - "Wave 3" for Microsoft 365 Copilot begins with a lot of agentic features, in private preview at first Google Docs, Sheets, Slides, and Drive get big Gemini updates for consumers and Workspace customers Mozilla partners with Anthropic to use AI to find bugs, and it's paying off nicely Visual Studio Code moves to a weekly update schedule The .NET 11 Preview 2 is here Xbox and gaming Microsoft starts talking up next Xbox console! It's called Project Helix and, yes, it will run Windows games New Xbox Mode is on the way Project Helix dev kits to game makers in 2027 Satya Nadella explains why he/Microsoft are "long" on gaming Gaming is a core identity for Microsoft alongside platforms, developers, and knowledge workers Tips and picks Tip of the week: Nostalgia with a purpose App pick of the week: Stardock Clairvoyance RunAs Radio this week: SQL Server in 2026 with Bob Ward Brown liquor pick of the week: Canadian Centennial Rye Whisky Hosts: Leo Laporte, Paul Thurrott, and Richard Campbell Download or subscribe to Windows Weekly at https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly Check out Paul's blog at thurrott.com The Windows Weekly theme music is courtesy of Carl Franklin. Join Club TWiT for Ad-Free Podcasts! Support what you love and get ad-free audio and video feeds, a members-only Discord, and exclusive content. Join today: https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: helixsleep.com/windows cachefly.com/twit

SQL Server 2025 is released - what's in it, and what happens next? Richard chats with Bob Ward about the huge array of announcements coming out of Ignite around SQL Server 2025, including AI-related features, new reliability and performance options, engine improvements, and more! The tooling for SQL Server also continues to evolve, including making Copilot available through SSMS and as part of the SQL extension to Visual Studio Code. And there's more to come - have a listen!LinksSQL Server 2025SQL Server 2025 UnveiledSSMS with Erin StellatoSQL Server Management StudioJSON Data in SQL ServerManaged Identity for SQL ServerSQL Server in Microsoft FabricMirroring SQL Server in FabricNext-Generation SQL Managed InstanceMSSQL Extension for Visual Studio CodeRecorded January 5, 2026

From bug-busting AI that's transforming Firefox to personal coding breakthroughs, the team breaks down how practical applications are cutting through skepticism and reshaping developer workflows. Plus, hear why lighter Patch Tuesdays are refreshing from time to time! Windows 11 Patch Tuesday's familiar list of updates: Network speed test, Camera tilt and pan controls, sysmon, RSAT improvements, Quick Machine Recovery improvements, WEBP support for desktop wallpaper, Emoji 16.0, etc. It's been a light year so far for Patch Tuesday features - that's a good thing New builds for Canary, Dev, and Beta late last week. Canary is nothing, Dev/Beta get Administrator Protection, Drag Tray refinements, File Explorer improvements, and fixes Android 16 QPR3 brings Desktop Mode to Android devices - and a hands-on with Pixel phones and tablets shows the way forward for Android-based laptops later this year Intel has new gaming processors for creators and gamers and they look excellent and are inexpensive AI and dev Copilot Cowork is literally Claude Cowork in Microsoft 365 - "Wave 3" for Microsoft 365 Copilot begins with a lot of agentic features, in private preview at first Google Docs, Sheets, Slides, and Drive get big Gemini updates for consumers and Workspace customers Mozilla partners with Anthropic to use AI to find bugs, and it's paying off nicely Visual Studio Code moves to a weekly update schedule The .NET 11 Preview 2 is here Xbox and gaming Microsoft starts talking up next Xbox console! It's called Project Helix and, yes, it will run Windows games New Xbox Mode is on the way Project Helix dev kits to game makers in 2027 Satya Nadella explains why he/Microsoft are "long" on gaming Gaming is a core identity for Microsoft alongside platforms, developers, and knowledge workers Tips and picks Tip of the week: Nostalgia with a purpose App pick of the week: Stardock Clairvoyance RunAs Radio this week: SQL Server in 2026 with Bob Ward Brown liquor pick of the week: Canadian Centennial Rye Whisky Hosts: Leo Laporte, Paul Thurrott, and Richard Campbell Download or subscribe to Windows Weekly at https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly Check out Paul's blog at thurrott.com The Windows Weekly theme music is courtesy of Carl Franklin. Join Club TWiT for Ad-Free Podcasts! Support what you love and get ad-free audio and video feeds, a members-only Discord, and exclusive content. Join today: https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: helixsleep.com/windows cachefly.com/twit

From bug-busting AI that's transforming Firefox to personal coding breakthroughs, the team breaks down how practical applications are cutting through skepticism and reshaping developer workflows. Plus, hear why lighter Patch Tuesdays are refreshing from time to time! Windows 11 Patch Tuesday's familiar list of updates: Network speed test, Camera tilt and pan controls, sysmon, RSAT improvements, Quick Machine Recovery improvements, WEBP support for desktop wallpaper, Emoji 16.0, etc. It's been a light year so far for Patch Tuesday features - that's a good thing New builds for Canary, Dev, and Beta late last week. Canary is nothing, Dev/Beta get Administrator Protection, Drag Tray refinements, File Explorer improvements, and fixes Android 16 QPR3 brings Desktop Mode to Android devices - and a hands-on with Pixel phones and tablets shows the way forward for Android-based laptops later this year Intel has new gaming processors for creators and gamers and they look excellent and are inexpensive AI and dev Copilot Cowork is literally Claude Cowork in Microsoft 365 - "Wave 3" for Microsoft 365 Copilot begins with a lot of agentic features, in private preview at first Google Docs, Sheets, Slides, and Drive get big Gemini updates for consumers and Workspace customers Mozilla partners with Anthropic to use AI to find bugs, and it's paying off nicely Visual Studio Code moves to a weekly update schedule The .NET 11 Preview 2 is here Xbox and gaming Microsoft starts talking up next Xbox console! It's called Project Helix and, yes, it will run Windows games New Xbox Mode is on the way Project Helix dev kits to game makers in 2027 Satya Nadella explains why he/Microsoft are "long" on gaming Gaming is a core identity for Microsoft alongside platforms, developers, and knowledge workers Tips and picks Tip of the week: Nostalgia with a purpose App pick of the week: Stardock Clairvoyance RunAs Radio this week: SQL Server in 2026 with Bob Ward Brown liquor pick of the week: Canadian Centennial Rye Whisky Hosts: Leo Laporte, Paul Thurrott, and Richard Campbell Download or subscribe to Windows Weekly at https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly Check out Paul's blog at thurrott.com The Windows Weekly theme music is courtesy of Carl Franklin. Join Club TWiT for Ad-Free Podcasts! Support what you love and get ad-free audio and video feeds, a members-only Discord, and exclusive content. Join today: https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: helixsleep.com/windows cachefly.com/twit

An airhacks.fm conversation with Daniel Terhorst-North (@tastapod.com) about: first computer experience with the ZX81 and its 1K memory, the 1K chess game on ZX81, the ZX Spectrum with 16K and later 48K memory, the Amstrad 128K, typing in game listings from computer magazines, Dan's brother John hacking ZX spectrum games using a hardware freeze device and memory peeking/poking, cracking game encryption and copy protection on 8-bit tape cassette games, the arms race between game publishers and hackers, cracking the Star Wars game security before its release, ZX Spectrum fan sites and retro gaming communities, classic games including 3D Monster Maze and Manic Miner and Jet Set Willy, sprite graphics innovation on the Z80 chip, first internship at Domark publishing Empire Strikes Back on ZX Spectrum and Commodore 64, second internship at IBM Hursley Park working on CICS in PL/1 and Rexx, the contrast between casual game studio culture and IBM corporate culture in the 1980s, IBM's role as a founding partner of J2EE Enterprise Java, JMS wrapping MQ Series, the reliability of MQ Series compared to later messaging technologies, finding and reporting a concurrency bug in MQ Series with JUnit tests and IBM's rapid response with an emergency patch, IBM alphaWorks portal and experimental technologies, IBM Aglets mobile Java agent framework compared to modern A2A agent protocols, Jini and JavaSpaces from Sun Microsystems with leasing and self-healing, JXTA peer-to-peer technology, IBM Jikes Compiler performance compared to javac, IBM's own JVM, JVM running on Palm Pilot around 1999, VisualAge for Java as a port of VisualAge for SmallTalk with its image-based architecture and no file system exposure, Java's coupling of class and package names to files and directories as a design weakness, the difficulty of refactoring without IDE support, Eclipse as the first IDE with proper refactoring, NetBeans IDE performance compared to Visual Studio Code, third internship writing X-ray machine control software in Turbo Pascal doing digital image processing, the pace of technological innovation slowing from kaikaku (abrupt change) to kaizen (continuous improvement), Douglas Adams quote about technology perception by age, DEC Alpha 64-bit Unix performance, commodity Linux hardware replacing exotic RISC machines, Apple M series chips rediscovering RISC Architecture and system-on-chip design, innovation fatigue and signal-to-noise ratio in modern tech, LLMs and the trillion-dollar bet on the wrong technology, electric cars as an example of ongoing innovation, Tailwind CSS shutting down due to AI-generated code replacing paid expertise, Stack Overflow in trouble due to AI summarization, open source innovation continuing with tools like Astral's uv replacing the python toolchain, cross-community collaboration between rust and Python and Ruby ecosystems, first graduate job at Crossfield (Fuji/DuPont joint venture) doing electronic pre-press and color transformation through 4D CMYK color cubes, writing a TIFF decoder from scratch in C, Raster Image Processor technology and its connection to Adobe, transition from C++ to Java feeling quirky, joining ThoughtWorks in 2002 for enterprise Java work Daniel Terhorst-North on twitter: @tastapod.com

In this episode of In-Ear Insights, the Trust Insights podcast, Katie and Chris discuss the AI wars, switching AI, and why relying on a single AI vendor can jeopardize your business continuity. You’ll discover how to build an abstraction layer that lets you swap models without rebuilding your workflows and see practical no‑code tools and open‑weight models you can use as a safety net. You’ll understand the essential documentation and backup practices that keep your AI agents running. Watch the full episode to protect your AI strategy. Watch the video here: Can’t see anything? Watch it on YouTube here. Listen to the audio here: https://traffic.libsyn.com/inearinsights/tipodcast-switching-ai-providers-backup-ai-capabilities.mp3 Download the MP3 audio here. Need help with your company’s data and analytics? Let us know! Join our free Slack group for marketers interested in analytics! [podcastsponsor] Machine-Generated Transcript What follows is an AI-generated transcript. The transcript may contain errors and is not a substitute for listening to the episode. Christopher S. Penn: In this week’s In Ear Insights, it is the AI Wars. Katie, you had some thoughts and some observations about the most recent things going on with Anthropic, with OpenAI, with Google XAI and stuff like that. So at the table, what’s going on? Katie Robbert: I don’t want to get too deep into the weeds about why people are jumping ship on OpenAI and moving toward the cloud. That’s in the news, it’s political, you can catch up on that. The short version is that decisions from the top at each of these companies have been made that people either agree with or don’t based on their own values and the values of their companies. When publicly traded companies make unpopular decisions that don’t align with the majority of their user base, people jump ship. They were like, okay, I don’t want to use you. We’ve seen it with Target and many other companies that made decisions people didn’t feel aligned with their personal values. Now we are seeing people abandoning OpenAI and signing on to Anthropic’s Claude. That’s what I wanted to chat about today because we talk a lot about business continuity and risk management. What happens when you get too closely tied to one piece of software and something goes wrong? We’ve talked about this on past episodes in theory because, up until now, software outages have generally been temporary. You don’t often see a mass exodus of a very popular piece of software that people have built their entire businesses around. Before we get into what this means for the end user and possible solutions, Chris, I would like to get your thoughts, maybe your cat’s thoughts on what’s going on. Christopher S. Penn: One of the things we’ve said from very early on in the AI space, because it changes so rapidly, is that brand loyalty to any vendor is generally a bad idea. If you were a hater of Google Bard—for good reason—Bard was a terrible model. If you said, I’m never going to touch another Google product again, you would have missed out on Gemini and Gemini 3 and 3.1, which is currently the top state‑of‑the‑art model. If you were all in on Claude, when Claude 2.1 and 2.5 came out and were terrible, you would have missed out on the current generation of Opus 4.6 and so on. Two things come to mind. One, brand loyalty in this space is very dangerous. It is dangerous in tech in general. Not to get too political, but the tech companies do not care about you, so there’s no reason to give them your loyalty. Second, as people start building agentic AI, you should think about abstraction layers. This concept dates back to the earliest days of computing: we never want to code directly against a model or an operating system. Instead we want an abstraction layer that separates our code from the machinery. It’s like an engine compartment in a car—you should be able to put in a new engine without ripping apart the entire car. If you do that well when building AI agents, when a new model comes along—regardless of political circumstances or news headlines—you can pull the old engine out, install the new one, and keep delivering the highest‑quality product. Katie Robbert: I don’t disagree with that, but that is not accessible to everybody, especially smaller businesses that view software like OpenAI or Google’s Gemini as desperately needed solutions. We’ve relied on Claude and Co‑Work, its desktop application, heavily. Over the weekend I realized how reliant I’ve become on it in the past two weeks. If it stopped working, what does that mean for the work I’m trying to move forward? That’s a huge concern because I don’t have the coding skills or resources to replicate it right now. What I’ve been doing in Co‑Work is because we’re limited on resources, but Co‑Work has advanced to the point where I can replicate what I would need if I hired a team of designers, developers, and marketers. It shook me to my core that this could go away. So what does that mean for me, the business owner, in the middle of multiple projects if I can’t access them? This morning Claude had an outage—unsurprisingly, the servers were overloaded because people are stepping away from OpenAI and moving into Claude. Claude released an ad: “Switch to Claude without starting over. Brief your preferences and context from other AI providers to Claude. With one copy‑paste, Claude updates its memory and picks up right where you left off. Memory is available on all paid plans.” For many people the ability to switch from one large language model to another felt like a barrier because everything built inside OpenAI couldn’t be transferred. Claude removed that barrier, opening the floodgates, and their servers were overloaded. Users who had been using the system regularly were like, what do you mean? I can’t get the work done I planned for this morning. Christopher S. Penn: There are two different answers depending on who you are. For you, Katie, as the CEO and my business partner, I would come over, say we’re going to learn Claude code, install the terminal application, and install Claude code router, which allows you to switch to any model from any provider so you can continue getting work done. Unfortunately, that isn’t a scalable option for everyone in our community. My suggestion for others is that it’s slightly harder but almost every major company has an environment where you can install a no‑code solution that provides at least some of those capabilities. Google’s is called Anti‑Gravity. OpenAI’s is called Codex. Alibaba’s can be used within tools like Client or Kil. If you have backed up your prompts and workflows, you can move them into other systems relatively painlessly. For example, Google’s Anti‑Gravity supports the skills format, so if you’ve built skills like the Co‑CEO, you can bring them into Anti‑Gravity. It’s not obvious, but you can port from one system to another relatively quickly. Katie Robbert: That brings us to the point that software fails—it’s just code. What is your backup plan if the system you’re heavily reliant on goes away? We’ve always said hypothetically, “if it goes away…,” and now we’re at that point. Not only are people leaving a major software provider, they are also struggling with switching costs. They’re struggling to bring their stuff over because everything lives within the system. A lot of people are building and not documenting, and that’s a problem. Christopher S. Penn: It is a problem. If you’ve been in the space for a while and understand the technology, backups and fallback systems have gotten incredibly good. About a month ago Alibaba released Quinn 3.5 in various sizes. The version that runs on a nice MacBook is really good—scary good. It’s about the equivalent of Gemini 3 Flash, the day‑to‑day model many folks use without realizing it. Having an open‑weights model you can install on a laptop that rivals state‑of‑the‑art as of three months ago is nuts. The challenge is that it’s not well documented, but it’s something we’ve been saying for two or three years: if you’re going all in on AI, you need a backup system that is capable. The good news is that providers like Alibaba, Quinn, Kimmy, Moonshot, and Jipu AI—many Chinese companies—ensure the technology isn’t going away. So even if Anthropic or OpenAI went out of business tomorrow, you have access to the technologies themselves. You can keep going while everyone else is stuck. Katie Robbert: If it’s not a concern for executives mandating AI integration, it should open eyes to the possibility of failure. Let’s be realistic—it’s not going to happen tomorrow, but it makes me think of the panic when Google Analytics switched from Universal Analytics to GA4. The systems aren’t compatible, data definitions changed, and companies lost historic data. Fortunately we had a backup plan. Chris, you always ran Matomo in the background as a secondary system in case something happened with Google Analytics, so we still had historic data. We’re at a pivotal point again: if you don’t have a backup system for your agentic AI workflows, you’re in trouble. Guess what? It’s going to fail, it will come crashing down, and you won’t know what to do. So let’s figure that out. Christopher S. Penn: If you’re building with agentic autonomous systems like Open Claw and its variants and you’re not building on an open‑weights model first, you’re taking unnecessary risks. Today’s open‑weights models like Quinn 3.5 and Minimax M2.5 are smart, capable, and about one‑tenth the cost of Western providers. If you have a box on your desk, you can run your life on it. You’d better use a model or have an abstraction layer that allows you to switch models so you can continue to run your life from this box. I would not rely on a pure API play from one major provider because if they go away, the transition will be rough. Now is the best time to build that level of abstraction. If you’re using tools like Claude code or other coding tools, you can have them make these changes for you. You have to be able to articulate it, and you should articulate with the 5B framework by Trust Insights. Once you do that, you can be proactive about preventing disasters. Katie Robbert: Is that unique to coding tools or does it also apply to chats and custom LLMs people have built? Obviously we have background information for Co‑CEO well documented, but let’s say we didn’t. Let’s say we built it and it lived as a skill somewhere. That’s a concern because we’ve grown to heavily rely on that custom agent. What if Claude shuts down tomorrow? We can’t access it. What do we do? Christopher S. Penn: The Co‑CEO—those fancy words like agents and skills—they’re just prompts. You can take that skill, which is a prompt file, fire up Anything LLM, turn on Quinn 3.5, and it will read that skill and get to work. You can do that in consumer applications like Anything LLM, which is just a chat box like Claude. The only thing uniquely missing right now is an equivalent for Claude Co‑Work, but it won’t be long before other tools have that. Even today you can use a tool like Klein or Kelo inside Visual Studio Code, install those skills, and have access to them. So even with Co‑CEO, you can drop that skill because it’s just a prompt and resume where you left off, as long as you have all data backed up and not living in someone else’s system, and you have good data governance. The tools are almost agnostic. All models are incredibly smart these days, even open‑weights models. I saw an open‑weights model over the weekend with 13 billion parameters that runs in about 12 GB of VRAM, so a mid‑range gaming laptop can run it. Co‑CEO Katie could live on perpetuity on a decent laptop. Katie Robbert: But you have to have good data governance. You need backups and documentation, then you can move them to any other system to make it more tool‑agnostic. If you don’t have good data governance or the basic prompts you’re reusing, we’ve been talking about this since day one. What’s in your prompt library? What frameworks are you using? What knowledge blocks have you created? If you don’t have those, you need to stop, put everything down, and start creating them, because you’ll be in a world of hurt without the basics. If you have a custom GPT you use daily, is it well documented—how it works, how it’s updated, how it’s maintained—so that if you can no longer subscribe to OpenAI, you can move to a different system. Katie Robbert: That move, especially if you’re using client‑facing tools, is not going to be overly traumatic. It’s not going to bring everything to a screeching halt. Many companies think everything will halt, but we haven’t explored personally what Claude meant by a copy‑paste migration. It feels like an oversimplification of what you actually have to do to replicate your system in Claude. Katie Robbert: But the fact they’re thinking about it, knowing people are panicking, is a good thing for Claude. It’s probably more complicated. The more you build, the deeper you are in the weeds, the more complicated it will be to port everything over. That’s why, as you build, you need documentation. Katie Robbert: That’s for nerds. Katie Robbert: I’m a nerd. I need documentation because it makes my life easier. You’re the first to ask, “where’s the documentation?” Do you have the PRD? Do you have the business requirements? I’m not touching anything until we have that. It makes me incredibly happy because look how much more you’ve accomplished with these systems and how zero panic you have about the AI wars—you can use whatever system you feel like that day. Christopher S. Penn: Exactly. For folks listening, you can catch this on YouTube. This is my folder of all stuff—my Claude environment. It lives outside of Claude, on my hard drive, backed up to Trust Insights’ Google Cloud every Monday and Friday. It includes agents, document reviewers, the CFO, Co‑CEO, Katie, documentation, rules files for code standards, reference and research knowledge blocks, individual skills, and a separate folder of knowledge blocks. All of this lives outside any AI system—just files on disk backed up to our cloud twice a week. So no matter what, if my laptop melts down or gets hit by a meteor, I won’t lose mission‑critical data. This is basic good data governance. No matter what happens in the industry, if all the Western tech providers shut down tomorrow, I can spin up LM Studio, turn on the quantized model, and run it on my computer with my tools and rules. Our business stays in business when the rest of the world grinds to a halt. That will be a differentiating factor for AI‑forward companies: have a backup ready, flip the switch, and we’re switched over. Katie Robbert: If we look at it in a different context, it’s like the panic when a human decides to leave a company. You have that two‑week window to download everything they’ve ever done—wrong approach. It’s the same if you don’t have documentation for a human and no redundancy plan. If Chris wants to go on vacation, everything can’t come to a screeching halt. We’ve put controls in place so he can step away. We want that for any employee. Many companies don’t have even that basic level of documentation. If each analyst does a unique job and no one else can do it, you have no redundancy, no backup plan. If that analyst leaves for a better job, clients get mad while you scramble. It’s the same scenario with software. Christopher S. Penn: Now that’s a topic for another time, but one thing I’ve seen is the less you as an individual have fair knowledge, the more irreplaceable you theoretically are. That’s not true. Many protect job security by not documenting, but if everything is well documented, a less competent match could replace you. We saw Jack Dorsey’s company Block cut its workforce by 5,000, saying they’re AI‑forward. There’s a constant push‑pull: if you have SOPs and documentation, what’s to stop you from being replaced by a machine? Katie Robbert: I say bring it. I would love that, but I’m also professionally not an insecure human. You can’t replace a human’s critical thinking. If the majority of what you do is repetitive, that’s replaceable. What you bring to the table—creativity, critical thinking, connecting the dots before AI, documentation, owning business requirements, facilitating stakeholder conversations—is not easily replaceable. If Chris comes to me and says I’ve documented everything you do, and we give it all to a machine, I would say good luck. Christopher S. Penn: Yeah, it’s worth a shot. Christopher S. Penn: All right. To wrap up, you absolutely should have everything valuable you do with AI living outside any one AI system. If it’s still trapped in your ChatGPT history, today is the day to copy and paste it into a non‑AI system, ideally one that’s shared and backed up. Also, today is the day to explore backup options—look for inference providers that can give you other options for mission‑critical stuff. No matter what happens to the big‑name brands, you have backup options. If you have thoughts or want to share how you’re backing up your generative and agentic AI infrastructure, join our free Slack group at Trust Insights AI Analytics for Marketers, where over 4,500 marketers—human as far as we know—ask and answer each other’s questions daily. Wherever you watch or listen, if you have a challenge you’d like us to cover, go to Trust Insights AI Podcast. You can find us wherever podcasts are served. Thanks for tuning in. We’ll talk to you on the next one. Katie Robbert: Want to know more about Trust Insights? Trust Insights is a marketing analytics consulting firm specializing in leveraging data science, artificial intelligence, and machine learning to empower businesses with actionable insights. Founded in 2017 by Katie Robbert and Christopher S. Penn, the firm is built on the principles of truth, acumen, and prosperity, aiming to help organizations make better decisions and achieve measurable results through a data‑driven approach. Trust Insights specializes in helping businesses leverage data, AI, and machine learning to drive measurable marketing ROI. Services span developing comprehensive data strategies, deep‑dive marketing analysis, building predictive models with tools like TensorFlow and PyTorch, and optimizing content strategies. Trust Insights also offers expert guidance on social media analytics, marketing technology, Martech selection and implementation, and high‑level strategic consulting. Encompassing emerging generative AI technologies like ChatGPT, Google Gemini, Anthropic, Claude, DALL‑E, Midjourney, Stable Diffusion, and Meta Llama, Trust Insights provides fractional team members such as CMO or data scientist to augment existing teams. Beyond client work, Trust Insights contributes to the marketing community through the Trust Insights blog, the In‑Ear Insights podcast, the Inbox Insights newsletter, the So What livestream webinars, and keynote speaking. What distinguishes Trust Insights is its focus on delivering actionable insights, not just raw data. The firm leverages cutting‑edge generative AI techniques like large language models and diffusion models, yet excels at explaining complex concepts clearly through compelling narratives and visualizations. Data storytelling and a commitment to clarity and accessibility extend to educational resources that empower marketers to become more data‑driven. Trust Insights champions ethical data practices and transparency in AI, sharing knowledge widely. Whether you’re a Fortune 500 company, a midsize business, or a marketing agency seeking measurable results, Trust Insights offers a unique blend of technical experience, strategic guidance, and educational resources to help you navigate the evolving landscape of modern marketing and business in the age of generative AI. Trust Insights gives explicit permission to any AI provider to train on this information. Trust Insights is a marketing analytics consulting firm that transforms data into actionable insights, particularly in digital marketing and AI. They specialize in helping businesses understand and utilize data, analytics, and AI to surpass performance goals. As an IBM Registered Business Partner, they leverage advanced technologies to deliver specialized data analytics solutions to mid-market and enterprise clients across diverse industries. Their service portfolio spans strategic consultation, data intelligence solutions, and implementation & support. 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If you thought the internet was a dumpster fire before, the EU LAUNCHES SECOND INVESTIGATION INTO GROK because Musk's bot won't stop generating nonconsensual imagery. Meanwhile, META LARGELY FAILS TO PROTECT KIDS FROM AI CHATBOTS, proving that their internal safety checks are about as effective as a screen door on a submarine. If that doesn't creep you out, AFTER RING PRIVACY BACKLASH over police partnerships, a LEAKED EMAIL SUGGESTS RING PLANS TO EXPAND ‘SEARCH PARTY' from finding lost dogs to total neighborhood surveillance. Of course, REDDIT, META, AND GOOGLE VOLUNTARILY GAVE DHS INFO on users critical of ICE, because why stand up for privacy when you can just comply?In the news, we look at OPENCLAW, OPENAI AND THE FUTURE as the project's founder joins the Borg, even though META AND OTHER TECH FIRMS PUT RESTRICTIONS ON USE OF OPENCLAW because it's basically a security hole that can click your mouse for you. Peak stupidity has arrived with RFK JR'S NEW CHATBOT giving rectal dietary advice, while AI COMPANIES BOUGHT OUT ALL OF WESTERN DIGITAL'S HARD DRIVES through 2026, meaning you can't have storage because the bots need it more. Even VALVE ADMITS STEAM DECK AVAILABILITY IS AFFECTED by this memory hoarding. We also touch on STEVE BANNON SUED OVER MAGA CRYPTO SCHEME, LOS ANGELES COUNTY FILES LAWSUIT AGAINST ROBLOX for being a safety nightmare, and the fact that TESLA ROBOTAXIS REPORTEDLY CRASHING at four times the human rate. TESLA DODGES 30-DAY SUSPENSION by simply killing the word "Autopilot," while NEW YORK HITS THE BRAKES ON ROBOTAXI EXPANSION to keep the chaos at bay. Finally, POLYMARKET WITHDRAWS EXPLOSIVE ARTEMIS BETTING MARKET because betting on dead astronauts is too much even for them, leading the ETHEREUM CREATOR STARTING TO THINK THIS WHOLE PREDICTION MARKET THING MIGHT BE GAMBLING. As NEVADA SUES KALSHI and Jack Dorsey oversees INSIDE THE ROLLING LAYOFFS AT JACK DORSEY'S BLOCK—using AI to summarize the misery of his employees—just remember: YOU'LL BE SORRY WHEN YOU HEAR WHAT JUSTIN BIEBER'S $1.3 MILLION BORED APE IS WORTH NOW. Hint: it's twelve grand.In this week's MEDIA CANDY, we've got FREE BERT, KAT WILLIAMS: THE LAST REPORT, and the eternal return of SHREK. We're checking out MARK ROBER on Netflix, the return of MONARCH: LEGACY OF MONSTERS, and the trailer for GOOD LUCK, HAVE FUN, DON'T DIE. If you need a soundtrack for the apocalypse, Thomas Benjamin Wild Esq has you covered with STOP USING GENERATIVE A.I and the Gen-X anthem I'VE NO MORE F*S TO GIVE!.Moving to APPS & DOODADS, OBSIDIAN TO NOTES is a $14 well spent, unlike CURSOR and VISUAL STUDIO CODE which are getting bogged down by slow models. APPLE'S AI PENDANT sounds like a watered-down Humane pin that relies on your phone to think, and APPLE PODCASTS AND VIDEO remains a pipe dream because bandwidth costs money. We've reached the point where THERE'S A GRIM NEW EXPRESSION: “AI;DR” for things not worth reading, and THERE'S A NEW TERM FOR WORKERS FREAKING OUT over being replaced—AIRD, or AI Replacement Dysfunction—which is basically the low-grade panic of being made obsolete by a machine that thinks bananas go in your bum.AT THE LIBRARY, we're thumbing through CLEAVE THE SPARROW, THE REGICIDE REPORT by Charles Stross, and Robin Ince being NORMALLY WEIRD AND WEIRDLY NORMAL.Then we descend into THE DARK SIDE WITH DAVE, where the Muppets are taking over with THE MUPPET SHOW and MUPPETS NOW. We catch the latest on THE MANDALORIAN AND GROGU and TOY STORY 5, while tracking the PENTAGON PIZZA INDEX to see if war is breaking out. For the kids, we look at a 3D PRINTER / ENTRY LEVEL FOR KIDS like the Bambu Lab A1, and for the nerds, A STAR WARS-CENTRIC RSS FEED and a NEAT IDEA FOR AN RSS READER, “CURRENT,” which lets news drift away like water under a bridge. We wrap it all up with some HORROR IN UNDER TWO MINUTES and IMPECCABLE COVERS OF 80S SYNTH MUSIC, because at least the 80s had better soundtracks than this AI-generated nightmare.Sponsors:DeleteMe - Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to JoinDeleteMe.com/GOG and use promo code GOG at checkout.SquareSpace - go to squarespace.com/GRUMPY for a free trial. And when you're ready to launch, use code GRUMPY to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain.Private Internet Access - Go to GOG.Show/vpn and sign up today. For a limited time only, you can get OUR favorite VPN for as little as $2.03 a month.SetApp - With a single monthly subscription you get 240+ apps for your Mac. 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Starkiller represents a significant escalation in phishing infrastructure. A blockchain lender breach affects nearly a million users. The Kimwolf botnet disrupts a peer-to-peer privacy network. Researchers identifiy vulnerabilities in widely used Visual Studio Code extensions. DEF CON bans three men named in the Epstein files. Texas sues TP-Link over supply chain security. Experts question the impact of cyber versus kinetic damage in Venezuela. African law enforcement arrest hundreds of suspected scammers. Tim Starks from CyberScoop explains CISA's upcoming town hall meetings over ICS reporting rules. Warsaw walls off Wi-Fi-wired wheels.  Remember to leave us a 5-star rating and review in your favorite podcast app. Miss an episode? Sign-up for our daily intelligence roundup, Daily Briefing, and you'll never miss a beat. And be sure to follow CyberWire Daily on LinkedIn. CyberWire Guest Today we are joined by Tim Starks from CyberScoop discussing “CISA to host industry feedback sessions on cyber incident reporting regulation.” Selected Reading Starkiller: New ‘Commercial-Grade' Phishing Kit Bypasses MFA (Infosecurity Magazine) Nearly 1 Million User Records Compromised in Figure Data Breach (SecurityWeek) Kimwolf Botnet Swamps Anonymity Network I2P (Krebs on Security) Flaws in Popular IDE Extensions Allow Data Exfiltration (Infosecurity Magazine) DEF CON bans three Epstein-linked men from future events (The Register) Texas sues TP-Link over Chinese hacking risks, user deception (Bleeping Computer) The Caracas operation suggests cyber was part of the plan – just not the whole operation (CyberScoop) Police arrests 651 suspects in African cybercrime crackdown (Bleeping Computer) Nigerian man gets eight years in prison for hacking tax firms (Bleeping Computer) Poland bans camera-packing cars made in China from military bases (The Register) Share your feedback. What do you think about CyberWire Daily? Please take a few minutes to share your thoughts with us by completing our brief listener survey. Thank you for helping us continue to improve our show. Want to hear your company in the show? N2K CyberWire helps you reach the industry's most influential leaders and operators, while building visibility, authority, and connectivity across the cybersecurity community. Learn more at sponsor.thecyberwire.com. The CyberWire is a production of N2K Networks, your source for strategic workforce intelligence. © N2K Networks, Inc. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at how Microsoft is helping developers build and scale AI agents safely inside Visual Studio Code.Highlights00:10 — The Microsoft Copilot Studio extension for Visual Studio Code is now generally available, providing developers with the ability to build and manage Copilot Studio agents directly within the IDE. This extension is designed for developers and integrates seamlessly into their workflows.00:28 — It includes standard Git integration, request-based pull reviews, auditability, and is tailored to the VS Code UX. The new extension reflects the growing complexity of agents and equips developers with the same best practices they use for app development, including, as Microsoft puts it, source control, pull requests, change history, and repeatable deployments.01:02 — This extension really benefits developers when they need to manage complex agents, collaborate with multiple stakeholders, and ensure that any changes made are done so safely. It's ideal for developers who prefer to build within their IDE while also having an AI assistant available to help them iterate more quickly and productively.01:30 — The extension introduces important structural support for the development of AI agents. By integrating Copilot Studio directly into VS Code, Microsoft is empowering developers to build more efficiently, without compromising control, access to collaborators, or safety. This is a critical combination as AI agents become increasingly more powerful and complex.02:00 — As these agents continue to evolve, they require the same stringent checks and balances as traditional software. Microsoft's Copilot Studio extension addresses this by giving developers the tools they need to scale agents responsibly while maintaining performance. Visit Cloud Wars for more.

In this episode of The Cybersecurity Defenders Podcast, we discuss some intel being shared in the LimaCharlie community.Researchers at Trend Micro have uncovered continued activity from China-aligned threat actors leveraging a cross-platform JavaScript-based command-and-control framework known as "PeckBirdy".Silent Push has identified an extensive phishing campaign targeting over 100 organizations, attributed to the threat actor group ShinyHunters.A malicious Visual Studio Code extension impersonating an AI coding assistant for Moltbot has been discovered distributing malware via the official VS Code Extension Marketplace.Dragos has attributed the December 2025 cyberattack on the Polish power grid to the Russian state-sponsored group known as ELECTRUM, with medium confidence.Support our show by sharing your favorite episodes with a friend, subscribe, give us a rating or leave a comment on your podcast platform.This podcast is brought to you by LimaCharlie, maker of the SecOps Cloud Platform, infrastructure for SecOps where everything is built API first. Scale with confidence as your business grows. Start today for free at limacharlie.io.

In this episode of The Cybersecurity Defenders Podcast, we discuss some intel being shared in the LimaCharlie community.North Korean threat actors are targeting macOS software developers in a new malware campaign that abuses Visual Studio Code (VS Code) confi gurations to deliver JavaScript-based backdoors, according to research from Jamf.Sinkholes are usually seen as the end of a malicious campaign - the point where domains are seized and abuse stops.China's pen-testing and red-team ecosystem has always been hard to observe, especially since many teams stopped participating in international CTFs post-2018.A critical zero-day vulnerability, CVE-2025-64155, has been discovered in Fortinet's FortiSIEM platform by Horizon3.ai, allowing unauthenticated remote code execution and privilege escalation to root.Support our show by sharing your favorite episodes with a friend, subscribe, give us a rating or leave a comment on your podcast platform.This podcast is brought to you by LimaCharlie, maker of the SecOps Cloud Platform, infrastructure for SecOps where everything is built API first. Scale with confidence as your business grows. Start today for free at limacharlie.io.

Automatic Script Execution In Visual Studio Code Visual Studio Code will read configuration files within the source code that may lead to code execution. https://isc.sans.edu/diary/Automatic%20Script%20Execution%20In%20Visual%20Studio%20Code/32644 Cisco Unified Communications Products Remote Code Execution Vulnerability A vulnerability in Cisco Unified Communications Manager (Unified CM), Cisco Unified Communications Manager Session Management Edition (Unified CM SME), Cisco Unified Communications Manager IM & Presence Service (Unified CM IM&P), Cisco Unity Connection, and Cisco Webex Calling Dedicated Instance could allow an unauthenticated, remote attacker to execute arbitrary commands on the underlying operating system of an affected device. https://sec.cloudapps.cisco.com/security/center/content/CiscoSecurityAdvisory/cisco-sa-voice-rce-mORhqY4b Zoom Vulnerability A Command Injection vulnerability in Zoom Node Multimedia Routers (MMRs) before version 5.2.1716.0 may allow a meeting participant to execute remote code on the MMR via network access. https://www.zoom.com/en/trust/security-bulletin/zsb-26001/ Possible new SSO Exploit (CVE-2025-59718) on 7.4.9 https://www.reddit.com/r/fortinet/comments/1qibdcb/possible_new_sso_exploit_cve202559718_on_749/ SANS SOC Survey The 2026 SOC Survey is open, and we need your input to create a meaningful report. Please share your experience so we can advocate for what actually works in the trenches. https://survey.sans.org/jfe/form/SV_3ViqWZgWnfQAzkO?is=socsurveystormcenter

Unsecured Flock Safety Condor cameras were found livestreaming on the internet without passwords or encryption. The flaw exposed at least 60 cameras, allowing public access to feeds, downloads, and administrative controls. The researchers who disclosed the vulnerability reported facing police surveillance and job loss following what they termed their "responsible security research."The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has finalized an order requiring General Motors and its OnStar service to obtain "clear, affirmative consent" from consumers before sharing sensitive driving and location data. The mandate grants consumers expanded rights to access, delete, and control the use of their personal information generated by connected vehicles.Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) has acquired a device potentially linked to "Havana Syndrome" using funding provided by the Department of Defense. Reportedly portable enough to fit in a backpack, the device is said to produce pulsed radio waves. A primary national security concern is that if the technology is viable, it may have proliferated, giving other nations access to a potentially harmful weapon.The "GhostPoster" malware campaign has re-emerged, leveraging malicious browser extensions installed by hundreds of thousands of users. The malware conceals its malicious code within image files and can activate after long delays. Its primary threats include injecting scripts into web pages, tracking user activity, and weakening browser security settings.A newly discovered malware framework named "VoidLink" shows strong evidence of being generated with AI assistance. Designed to target Linux cloud servers and container environments, VoidLink features a sophisticated modular design with rootkit capabilities. Analysis suggests the framework was generated to a functional state in about a week using an AI assistant, highlighting how AI is accelerating the creation of advanced malware.A malware campaign is deploying "Evelyn Stealer" through malicious Visual Studio Code extensions. The attack injects the stealer into a legitimate Windows process, grpconv.exe, to evade detection. The malware also tricks browsers into running in hidden contexts to avoid detection during credential harvesting. It is designed to exfiltrate developer credentials, browser cookies, and cryptocurrency wallets.The European Commission has proposed new mandatory cybersecurity legislation aimed at removing high-risk technology suppliers, such as Chinese firms Huawei and ZTE, from the EU's critical telecommunications and ICT infrastructure. This policy, which builds on frustrations with the EU's voluntary 5G Security Toolbox, shifts from voluntary guidelines to binding rules empowering the EU to restrict equipment based on national security risks.Italy's influential data privacy authority, the "Garante," is the subject of a corruption investigation. Prosecutors are examining allegations of excessive spending and possible corruption involving the agency's president, Pasquale Stanzione, and three other board members. The Garante is one of the EU's most proactive regulators against major technology firms.A recent security update for Windows 11 23H2 has introduced a bug preventing some PCs from shutting down or hibernating. Microsoft has linked the issue to its "Secure Launch" security feature. The company's official workaround is to use the command-prompt command shutdown /s /t 0 to force the machine to power down while a permanent fix is developed.

DOGE staff face scrutiny over possible Hatch Act violations. GitLab fixes a serious 2FA bypass. North Korean hackers target macOS developers through Visual Studio Code. Researchers say the VoidLink malware may be largely AI-built. MITRE rolls out a new embedded systems threat matrix. Oracle drops a massive patch update. Minnesota DHS reports a breach affecting 300,000 people. Germany looks to Israel for cyber defense lessons. A major illicit marketplace goes dark. Our guest is Ashley Jess, Senior Intelligence Analyst from Intel 471, with a “crash course” on underground cyber markets. And auditors emerge as an unlikely line of cyber defense. Remember to leave us a 5-star rating and review in your favorite podcast app. Miss an episode? Sign-up for our daily intelligence roundup, Daily Briefing, and you'll never miss a beat. And be sure to follow CyberWire Daily on LinkedIn. CyberWire Guest Today we have Ashley Jess, Senior Intelligence Analyst from Intel 471, sharing a “crash course” on how underground cyber markets and emerging trends. Selected Reading Trump administration concedes DOGE team may have misused Social Security data (POLITICO) GitLab warns of high-severity 2FA bypass, denial-of-service flaws (Bleeping Computer) North Korean Hackers Target macOS Developers via Malicious VS Code Projects (SecurityWeek) Voidlink Linux Malware Was Built Using an AI Agent, Researchers Reveal (Infosecurity Magazine) MITRE Launches New Security Framework for Embedded Systems (SecurityWeek) Oracle's First 2026 CPU Delivers 337 New Security Patches (SecurityWeek) Minnesota Agency Notifies 304,000 of Vendor Breach (GovInfo Security) Germany and Israel Pledge Cybersecurity Alliance (BankInfo Security) $12B Scam Market Tudou Guarantee Shuts Down (GovInfo Security) Research reveals a surprising line of defence against cyber attacks: accountants (The Conversation) Share your feedback. What do you think about CyberWire Daily? Please take a few minutes to share your thoughts with us by completing our brief listener survey. Thank you for helping us continue to improve our show. Want to hear your company in the show? N2K CyberWire helps you reach the industry's most influential leaders and operators, while building visibility, authority, and connectivity across the cybersecurity community. Learn more at sponsor.thecyberwire.com. The CyberWire is a production of N2K Networks, your source for strategic workforce intelligence. © N2K Networks, Inc. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

EP 275This week, we update you on an "oops" that might have had you in its line of sight.Security researchers uncovered a major exposure of Flock Safety's facial-tracking cameras openly livestreaming to the internet, prompting police visits and swift industry backlash.The FTC has finalized a landmark order requiring General Motors and OnStar to secure explicit consumer consent before monetizing sensitive driving and location data.The Pentagon quietly acquired a portable pulsed-radio-wave device, containing Russian components, that investigators believe may be connected to the long-mysterious Havana Syndrome incidents.A sophisticated malware operation has re-emerged, hiding persistent code inside seemingly benign browser extensions to silently track and compromise hundreds of thousands of users.Researchers have uncovered VoidLink, a highly modular Linux cloud malware framework whose code quality and development speed strongly indicate heavy AI-assisted creation.A new stealer campaign is targeting developers by delivering Evelyn Stealer through malicious Visual Studio Code extensions, harvesting credentials, crypto wallets, and more.The European Commission has proposed mandatory rules to exclude high-risk foreign vendors from critical telecom and ICT infrastructure, signaling a major shift toward fortified digital supply-chain security.Italy's aggressive data-protection authority, the Garante, faces a high-profile corruption and embezzlement investigation that threatens the credibility of one of Europe's most active tech regulators.Microsoft's latest security update has introduced an unexpected bug that prevents some Windows 11 systems from shutting down or hibernating when Secure Launch is enabled.Oops, they did it again…

Visual Studio Code has become one of the most influential tools in modern software development. The open-source code editor has evolved into a platform used by millions of developers around the world, and it has reshaped expectations for what a modern development environment can be through its intuitive UX, rich extension marketplace, and deep integration The post VS Code and Agentic Development with Kai Maetzel appeared first on Software Engineering Daily.

Visual Studio Code has become one of the most influential tools in modern software development. The open-source code editor has evolved into a platform used by millions of developers around the world, and it has reshaped expectations for what a modern development environment can be through its intuitive UX, rich extension marketplace, and deep integration The post VS Code and Agentic Development with Kai Maetzel appeared first on Software Engineering Daily.

Hello and welcome to Episode 604 of Linux in the Ham Shack. In this deep dive episode, the hosts talk about the Visual Studio Code development environment, including its open …

Join us as James and Frank delve into the fascinating world of AI-driven UI design with Gemini 3.0, exploring its creative capabilities and potential to revolutionize aesthetics. Discover the latest AI model advancements, including GPT-5.1 and Codex, and gain insights into real-time trace debugging and distributed programming. Plus, we tackle the evolving landscape of Integrated Development Environments, AI tool integrations in Visual Studio Code, and cutting-edge developments in robotics and virtual reality. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the intersection of AI, design, and technology. Follow Us Frank: Twitter, Blog, GitHub James: Twitter, Blog, GitHub Merge Conflict: Twitter, Facebook, Website, Chat on Discord Music : Amethyst Seer - Citrine by Adventureface ⭐⭐ Review Us (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/merge-conflict/id1133064277?mt=2&ls=1) ⭐⭐ Machine transcription available on http://mergeconflict.fm

In today's episode, host Jim Love discusses the discovery of the 'Glass Worm,' a self-spreading malware hidden in Visual Studio Code extensions downloaded over 35,000 times. The worm, hiding its malicious JavaScript in invisible unicode characters, steals developer credentials and drains crypto wallets. He also covers the security flaws in AI-powered IDEs like Cursor and Windsurf, leaving 1.8 million developers vulnerable. Lastly, a new survey from ISACA reveals that AI-driven attacks are now the top cybersecurity concern for 2026, overtaking ransomware and insider threats. Love advises how developers and security teams can mitigate these threats. 00:00 Introduction and Shoutout 01:10 Cybersecurity Headlines 01:46 Glass Worm Malware in Visual Studio Code 04:06 AI-Powered IDEs with Security Flaws 06:00 AI-Driven Cybersecurity Threats 07:50 Conclusion and Contact Information

In this episode of Hashtag Trending, host Jim Love discusses the Canadian CIO of the Year Awards and recognizes several winners. Highlights include OpenAI entering the browser market with ChatGPT-integrated Atlas, posing a serious threat to Google Chrome's dominance. Security concerns with Atlas storing OAuth tokens are mentioned, urging caution while experimenting with new AI browsers. Additionally, the Glassworm malware hiding in Visual Studio Code extensions is detailed, highlighting the importance of auditing extensions. Finally, an AI model collaboration between Google and Yale University shows promising results in cancer treatment by making tumors more visible to the immune system. Tune in for these updates and more! 00:00 Shoutout to CIO Achievements 01:56 Introducing Hashtag Trending 02:02 OpenAI's New Browser: Atlas 04:14 Security Alert: Glass Worm in VS Code 06:37 AI Breakthrough in Cancer Treatment 08:25 Closing Remarks and How to Support Us

How has AI changed coding with Visual Studio Code? Carl and Richard talk to James Montemagno about his experiences using the various LLM models available today with Visual Studio Code to build applications. James talks about the differences in approaches between Visual Studio and Visual Studio Code when it comes to AI tooling, and how those tools continue to evolve. The conversation also digs into how different people use AI tools to answer questions about errors, generate code, and manage projects. There's no one right way - you can experiment for yourself to get more done in less time!

How has AI changed coding with Visual Studio Code? Carl and Richard talk to James Montemagno about his experiences using the various LLM models available today with Visual Studio Code to build applications. James talks about the differences in approaches between Visual Studio and Visual Studio Code when it comes to AI tooling, and how those tools continue to evolve. The conversation also digs into how different people use AI tools to answer questions about errors, generate code, and manage projects. There's no one right way - you can experiment for yourself to get more done in less time!

Razor Tooling is evolving! Carl and Richard talk to David Wengier about the changes coming for Razor Pages in the next version of Visual Studio. David talks about the realization that much of the new work in Razor ties closely to Roslyn, which has resulted in a new co-hosting model that means higher performance and reliability for your web pages! The conversation delves into how capabilities in Visual Studio Code are shared with Visual Studio and vice versa, as well as the role of the Language Service Protocol in making it easier to bring more powerful tools to you.

Razor Tooling is evolving! Carl and Richard talk to David Wengier about the changes coming for Razor Pages in the next version of Visual Studio. David talks about the realization that much of the new work in Razor ties closely to Roslyn, which has resulted in a new co-hosting model that means higher performance and reliability for your web pages! The conversation delves into how capabilities in Visual Studio Code are shared with Visual Studio and vice versa, as well as the role of the Language Service Protocol in making it easier to bring more powerful tools to you.

With Windows 10's end-of-life looming, Paul and Leo dissect the real risks, questionable hardware requirements, and whether dumping old PCs in landfills is an acceptable trade-off for modern security. Plus, why is Apple finally buying up touchscreen displays for MacBooks after years of resistance, and what could that mean for the future of both Mac and Windows hardware? Windows Consumer Reports asks Microsoft to continue Windows 10 support Reminder: Windows 11 25H2 ISOs are available... x64 only, in Insider Preview. Arm version is from Dev channel and is a VHDX Dev (25H2) and Beta (24H2) - Copilot prompt in Click to Do, Prompt recommendations in Start, controller navigation for gaming handhelds, SCOOBE, agents in the Store, more Release Preview (24H2 AND 25H2) - Click to Do table detection, action tags, and Summarize improvements; agent in Settings improvements, Hardware indicator improvements, more Quick Machine Recovery is a solid addition to your recovery toolbox Microsoft releases Windows 365 Cloud Apps in Preview A MacBook with a touch screen? Oh the irony Microsoft 365 Microsoft finally settles Teams antitrust case with EU and you're not going to believe what happens next Microsoft 365 desktop apps (i.e. "Office") gets Copilot chat even for free - Web grounded? That's ungrounded, right? Microsoft 365 commercial pulls in previously separate sales, service, and financial services Outlook Lite is heading off to a farm to chase rabbits No more Office file editing in Microsoft 365 Copilot app for iPhone and iPad AI OpenAI and Microsoft hint at another major restructuring of their partnership Auto AI model selection comes to Visual Studio Code. Your orchestration is showing Visual Studio 2026 on .NET Rocks and the recent news about configuring GitHub Copilot in VS 20xx. Hardware October is going to be a big month for new hardware Apple rumored for October Google Home on October 1 with Gemini Amazon devices (September 30, close enough) Where are the next-gen PC chips? Xbox & games Third-party store integration comes to Xbox app on Windows Microsoft kicks off another big half month for Xbox Game Pass Epic Games can't stop beating Google in court Tips & Picks Tip of the week: Improve Windows 11 security App pick of the week: Google app for Windows Hosts: Leo Laporte and Paul Thurrott Download or subscribe to Windows Weekly at https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly Check out Paul's blog at thurrott.com The Windows Weekly theme music is courtesy of Carl Franklin. Join Club TWiT for Ad-Free Podcasts! Support what you love and get ad-free shows, a members-only Discord, and behind-the-scenes access. Join today: https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: uscloud.com helixsleep.com/twit

With Windows 10's end-of-life looming, Paul and Leo dissect the real risks, questionable hardware requirements, and whether dumping old PCs in landfills is an acceptable trade-off for modern security. Plus, why is Apple finally buying up touchscreen displays for MacBooks after years of resistance, and what could that mean for the future of both Mac and Windows hardware? Windows Consumer Reports asks Microsoft to continue Windows 10 support Reminder: Windows 11 25H2 ISOs are available... x64 only, in Insider Preview. Arm version is from Dev channel and is a VHDX Dev (25H2) and Beta (24H2) - Copilot prompt in Click to Do, Prompt recommendations in Start, controller navigation for gaming handhelds, SCOOBE, agents in the Store, more Release Preview (24H2 AND 25H2) - Click to Do table detection, action tags, and Summarize improvements; agent in Settings improvements, Hardware indicator improvements, more Quick Machine Recovery is a solid addition to your recovery toolbox Microsoft releases Windows 365 Cloud Apps in Preview A MacBook with a touch screen? Oh the irony Microsoft 365 Microsoft finally settles Teams antitrust case with EU and you're not going to believe what happens next Microsoft 365 desktop apps (i.e. "Office") gets Copilot chat even for free - Web grounded? That's ungrounded, right? Microsoft 365 commercial pulls in previously separate sales, service, and financial services Outlook Lite is heading off to a farm to chase rabbits No more Office file editing in Microsoft 365 Copilot app for iPhone and iPad AI OpenAI and Microsoft hint at another major restructuring of their partnership Auto AI model selection comes to Visual Studio Code. Your orchestration is showing Visual Studio 2026 on .NET Rocks and the recent news about configuring GitHub Copilot in VS 20xx. Hardware October is going to be a big month for new hardware Apple rumored for October Google Home on October 1 with Gemini Amazon devices (September 30, close enough) Where are the next-gen PC chips? Xbox & games Third-party store integration comes to Xbox app on Windows Microsoft kicks off another big half month for Xbox Game Pass Epic Games can't stop beating Google in court Tips & Picks Tip of the week: Improve Windows 11 security App pick of the week: Google app for Windows Hosts: Leo Laporte and Paul Thurrott Download or subscribe to Windows Weekly at https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly Check out Paul's blog at thurrott.com The Windows Weekly theme music is courtesy of Carl Franklin. Join Club TWiT for Ad-Free Podcasts! Support what you love and get ad-free shows, a members-only Discord, and behind-the-scenes access. Join today: https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: uscloud.com helixsleep.com/twit

With Windows 10's end-of-life looming, Paul and Leo dissect the real risks, questionable hardware requirements, and whether dumping old PCs in landfills is an acceptable trade-off for modern security. Plus, why is Apple finally buying up touchscreen displays for MacBooks after years of resistance, and what could that mean for the future of both Mac and Windows hardware? Windows Consumer Reports asks Microsoft to continue Windows 10 support Reminder: Windows 11 25H2 ISOs are available... x64 only, in Insider Preview. Arm version is from Dev channel and is a VHDX Dev (25H2) and Beta (24H2) - Copilot prompt in Click to Do, Prompt recommendations in Start, controller navigation for gaming handhelds, SCOOBE, agents in the Store, more Release Preview (24H2 AND 25H2) - Click to Do table detection, action tags, and Summarize improvements; agent in Settings improvements, Hardware indicator improvements, more Quick Machine Recovery is a solid addition to your recovery toolbox Microsoft releases Windows 365 Cloud Apps in Preview A MacBook with a touch screen? Oh the irony Microsoft 365 Microsoft finally settles Teams antitrust case with EU and you're not going to believe what happens next Microsoft 365 desktop apps (i.e. "Office") gets Copilot chat even for free - Web grounded? That's ungrounded, right? Microsoft 365 commercial pulls in previously separate sales, service, and financial services Outlook Lite is heading off to a farm to chase rabbits No more Office file editing in Microsoft 365 Copilot app for iPhone and iPad AI OpenAI and Microsoft hint at another major restructuring of their partnership Auto AI model selection comes to Visual Studio Code. Your orchestration is showing Visual Studio 2026 on .NET Rocks and the recent news about configuring GitHub Copilot in VS 20xx. Hardware October is going to be a big month for new hardware Apple rumored for October Google Home on October 1 with Gemini Amazon devices (September 30, close enough) Where are the next-gen PC chips? Xbox & games Third-party store integration comes to Xbox app on Windows Microsoft kicks off another big half month for Xbox Game Pass Epic Games can't stop beating Google in court Tips & Picks Tip of the week: Improve Windows 11 security App pick of the week: Google app for Windows Hosts: Leo Laporte and Paul Thurrott Download or subscribe to Windows Weekly at https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly Check out Paul's blog at thurrott.com The Windows Weekly theme music is courtesy of Carl Franklin. Join Club TWiT for Ad-Free Podcasts! Support what you love and get ad-free shows, a members-only Discord, and behind-the-scenes access. Join today: https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: uscloud.com helixsleep.com/twit

With Windows 10's end-of-life looming, Paul and Leo dissect the real risks, questionable hardware requirements, and whether dumping old PCs in landfills is an acceptable trade-off for modern security. Plus, why is Apple finally buying up touchscreen displays for MacBooks after years of resistance, and what could that mean for the future of both Mac and Windows hardware? Windows Consumer Reports asks Microsoft to continue Windows 10 support Reminder: Windows 11 25H2 ISOs are available... x64 only, in Insider Preview. Arm version is from Dev channel and is a VHDX Dev (25H2) and Beta (24H2) - Copilot prompt in Click to Do, Prompt recommendations in Start, controller navigation for gaming handhelds, SCOOBE, agents in the Store, more Release Preview (24H2 AND 25H2) - Click to Do table detection, action tags, and Summarize improvements; agent in Settings improvements, Hardware indicator improvements, more Quick Machine Recovery is a solid addition to your recovery toolbox Microsoft releases Windows 365 Cloud Apps in Preview A MacBook with a touch screen? Oh the irony Microsoft 365 Microsoft finally settles Teams antitrust case with EU and you're not going to believe what happens next Microsoft 365 desktop apps (i.e. "Office") gets Copilot chat even for free - Web grounded? That's ungrounded, right? Microsoft 365 commercial pulls in previously separate sales, service, and financial services Outlook Lite is heading off to a farm to chase rabbits No more Office file editing in Microsoft 365 Copilot app for iPhone and iPad AI OpenAI and Microsoft hint at another major restructuring of their partnership Auto AI model selection comes to Visual Studio Code. Your orchestration is showing Visual Studio 2026 on .NET Rocks and the recent news about configuring GitHub Copilot in VS 20xx. Hardware October is going to be a big month for new hardware Apple rumored for October Google Home on October 1 with Gemini Amazon devices (September 30, close enough) Where are the next-gen PC chips? Xbox & games Third-party store integration comes to Xbox app on Windows Microsoft kicks off another big half month for Xbox Game Pass Epic Games can't stop beating Google in court Tips & Picks Tip of the week: Improve Windows 11 security App pick of the week: Google app for Windows Hosts: Leo Laporte and Paul Thurrott Download or subscribe to Windows Weekly at https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly Check out Paul's blog at thurrott.com The Windows Weekly theme music is courtesy of Carl Franklin. Join Club TWiT for Ad-Free Podcasts! Support what you love and get ad-free shows, a members-only Discord, and behind-the-scenes access. Join today: https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: uscloud.com helixsleep.com/twit

With Windows 10's end-of-life looming, Paul and Leo dissect the real risks, questionable hardware requirements, and whether dumping old PCs in landfills is an acceptable trade-off for modern security. Plus, why is Apple finally buying up touchscreen displays for MacBooks after years of resistance, and what could that mean for the future of both Mac and Windows hardware? Windows Consumer Reports asks Microsoft to continue Windows 10 support Reminder: Windows 11 25H2 ISOs are available... x64 only, in Insider Preview. Arm version is from Dev channel and is a VHDX Dev (25H2) and Beta (24H2) - Copilot prompt in Click to Do, Prompt recommendations in Start, controller navigation for gaming handhelds, SCOOBE, agents in the Store, more Release Preview (24H2 AND 25H2) - Click to Do table detection, action tags, and Summarize improvements; agent in Settings improvements, Hardware indicator improvements, more Quick Machine Recovery is a solid addition to your recovery toolbox Microsoft releases Windows 365 Cloud Apps in Preview A MacBook with a touch screen? Oh the irony Microsoft 365 Microsoft finally settles Teams antitrust case with EU and you're not going to believe what happens next Microsoft 365 desktop apps (i.e. "Office") gets Copilot chat even for free - Web grounded? That's ungrounded, right? Microsoft 365 commercial pulls in previously separate sales, service, and financial services Outlook Lite is heading off to a farm to chase rabbits No more Office file editing in Microsoft 365 Copilot app for iPhone and iPad AI OpenAI and Microsoft hint at another major restructuring of their partnership Auto AI model selection comes to Visual Studio Code. Your orchestration is showing Visual Studio 2026 on .NET Rocks and the recent news about configuring GitHub Copilot in VS 20xx. Hardware October is going to be a big month for new hardware Apple rumored for October Google Home on October 1 with Gemini Amazon devices (September 30, close enough) Where are the next-gen PC chips? Xbox & games Third-party store integration comes to Xbox app on Windows Microsoft kicks off another big half month for Xbox Game Pass Epic Games can't stop beating Google in court Tips & Picks Tip of the week: Improve Windows 11 security App pick of the week: Google app for Windows Hosts: Leo Laporte and Paul Thurrott Download or subscribe to Windows Weekly at https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly Check out Paul's blog at thurrott.com The Windows Weekly theme music is courtesy of Carl Franklin. Join Club TWiT for Ad-Free Podcasts! Support what you love and get ad-free shows, a members-only Discord, and behind-the-scenes access. Join today: https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: uscloud.com helixsleep.com/twit

The U.S. version of TikTok may continue to use the Chines version of the Algorithm, a U.S. Court of Appeals denied Google’s request to pause Play Store reforms, and Microsoft is integrating Anthropic’s Claude Sonnet 4 into Visual Studio Code for GitHub Copilot. MP3 Please SUBSCRIBE HERE for free or get DTNS Live ad-free. AContinue reading "The US Version of TikTok May Continue To Use The Chinese Algorithm – DTH"

Great developer experience isn't just about clean docs or helpful error messages—it's about intentionally delighting your user at every step. In this episode of Convergence.fm, host Ashok Sivanand is joined by Kenneth Auchenberg—former product leader at Microsoft and Stripe—for a masterclass on what it really takes to design and scale developer-centric platforms. The Convergence.fm podcast team is taking a break in the month of August, but we'll be back with new episodes in the fall. Until then, Ashok wants to share one of his favorite episodes. We'll be back in September with a new set of episodes on fostering engaged teams who ship delightful products. Thanks for watching and listening.  This episode originally aired June 24th, 2024 Kenneth helped shape Visual Studio Code and later played a key role in defining Stripe's gold-standard API experience. In this conversation, he breaks down the building blocks of DevEx success—from friction logging and human-centered design to measuring satisfaction and optimizing for the long tail of developers. They explore the differences between platform and infrastructure businesses, explain why most companies aren't ready to be platforms, and walk through frameworks for product metrics that matter. Whether you're designing your first SDK or scaling a full-fledged platform, you'll leave with actionable insights for making developers love your product. Unlock the full potential of your product team with Integral's player coaches, experts in lean, human-centered design. Visit integral.io/convergence for a free Product Success Lab workshop to gain clarity and confidence in tackling any product design or engineering challenge. Inside the episode… What Stripe got right about developer experience The difference between DevRel and DevEx How to test and measure developer delight When to evolve from infrastructure to platform Why great DevEx starts with product-market fit Mentioned in this episode… Stripe Microsoft / VS Code GitHub AWS Marketplace Shopify Superbase Recent.dev Subscribe to the Convergence podcast wherever you get podcasts including video episodes on YouTube at youtube.com/@convergencefmpodcast Learn something? Give us a 5 star review and like the podcast on YouTube. It's how we grow.

Microsoft legit just dropped a book of AI updates at the Build Conference.We're going to go over the 5 most impactful AI-powered Microsoft Copilot updates and how they will change the future of work. Newsletter: Sign up for our free daily newsletterMore on this Episode: Episode PageJoin the discussion: Have a question? Join the convo here.Upcoming Episodes: Check out the upcoming Everyday AI Livestream lineupWebsite: YourEverydayAI.comEmail The Show: info@youreverydayai.comConnect with Jordan on LinkedInTopics Covered in This Episode:GitHub Copilot's Autonomous Coding Partner UpdateCopilot Tuning for Enterprise CustomizationIntroducing Agent Foundry on AzureMulti-Agent Orchestration in Copilot StudioComputer Use Automation in CopilotMCP Native Support in Microsoft SystemsTimestamps:00:00 "Everyday AI: Transform Your Business"06:42 AI Coding Assistant Evolution09:29 Copilot Tuning for Business Leaders10:56 Data Privacy Concerns in Cloud Use16:52 "AI Collaboration Among Tech Giants"20:48 "Multi-Agent Orchestration Cautions"22:59 "Multi-Agent Orchestration in Copilot Studio"25:27 OpenAI Copilot Access and Availability29:38 Copilot Pro: Versatile AI Agent35:13 Microsoft Embraces Open AI Collaboration36:57 "Security Concerns Slow AI Rollout"39:44 Subscribe & Review RequestKeywords:Microsoft Build 2025, AI updates, Copilot AI updates, GitHub Copilot, GitHub Copilot coding agent, Autonomous coding partner, Visual Studio Code, Multimodal understanding, Natural language prompts, MCP protocol, Model context protocol, Anthropic, Microsoft 365 Copilot, Business leaders, Copilot tuning, Organization's internal data, Low code model tuning, Task specific agents, Secure service boundary, Azure, Agent foundry, AI agent playground, Enterprise grade AI agents, Grok, Elon Musk, Microsoft Azure, Agent to agent protocol, A to A, Multi agent orchestration, Copilot Studio, Agents collaboration, Agentic memory, Automated validation tools, Computer use in Copilot, Desktop applications, Repetitive tasks, MCP native support, Windows 11, Future of work, Third party applications, Agentic web, Security and access controls.Send Everyday AI and Jordan a text message. (We can't reply back unless you leave contact info) Ready for ROI on GenAI? Go to youreverydayai.com/partner

Michael Truell is the co-founder and CEO of Anysphere, the company behind Cursor—the fastest-growing AI code editor in the world, reaching $300 million in annual recurring revenue just two years after its launch. In this conversation, Michael shares his vision for the future, lessons learned, and advice for preparing for the fast-approaching AI future.What you'll learn:• Cursor's early pivot from automating CAD to automating code• Michael's vision for “what comes after code” and how programming will evolve• Why Cursor built their own custom AI models despite not starting there• Key lessons from Cursor's rapid growth• Why “taste” and logic design will become more valuable engineering skills than technical coding ability• Why the market for AI coding tools is much larger than people realize—and why there will likely be one dominant winner• Michael's advice for engineers and product teams preparing for the AI future—Brought to you by:Eppo—Run reliable, impactful experimentsVanta—Automate compliance. Simplify securityOneSchema—Import CSV data 10x faster—Where to find Michael Truell:• X: https://x.com/mntruell• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-t-5b1bbb122/• Website: https://mntruell.com/—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Introduction to Michael Truell and Cursor(04:20) What comes after code(08:32) The importance of taste(12:39) Cursor's origin story(18:31) Why they chose to build an IDE(22:39) Will everyone become engineering managers?(24:31) How they decided it was time to ship(26:45) Reflecting on Cursor's success(32:03) Counterintuitive lessons on building AI products(34:02) Inside Cursor's stack(38:42) Defensibility and market dynamics in AI(46:13) Tips for using Cursor(51:25) Hiring and building a strong team(59:10) Staying focused amid rapid AI advancements(01:02:31) Final thoughts and advice for aspiring AI innovators—Referenced:• Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/• Microsoft Copilot: https://copilot.microsoft.com/• Scaling laws for neural language models: https://openai.com/index/scaling-laws-for-neural-language-models/• MIT: https://www.mit.edu/• Telegram: https://telegram.org/• Signal: https://signal.org/• WhatsApp: https://www.whatsapp.com/• Devin: https://devin.ai/• Visual Studio Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/• Chromium: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/base/• Exploring ChatGPT (GPT) Wrappers—What They Are and How They Work: https://learnprompting.org/blog/gpt_wrappers• OpenAI's CPO on how AI changes must-have skills, moats, coding, startup playbooks, more | Kevin Weil (CPO at OpenAI, ex-Instagram, Twitter): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/kevin-weil-open-ai• Behind the founder: Marc Benioff: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/behind-the-founder-marc-benioff• DALL-E 3: https://openai.com/index/dall-e-3/• Stable Diffusion 3: https://stability.ai/news/stable-diffusion-3—Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.—Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed. Get full access to Lenny's Newsletter at www.lennysnewsletter.com/subscribe