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Nature and the Nation
Review: Why Evolution is True by Jerry Coyne

Nature and the Nation

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 29, 2025 74:31


In this episode I examine sexual selection and basic mating strategies, plus a look at the possibility of escaping the our evolutionarily acquired behaviors as described in Jerry Coyne's Why Evolution is True.

Embrace The Void
Biology and Bigotry with Ed Buckner

Embrace The Void

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 24, 2025 94:26


My guest this week is Ed Buckner, a secular organizer, former president of American Atheists. Ed is the author of the book In Freedom We Trust: An Atheist Guide to Religious Liberty, as well as the Substack blog Letters to a Free Country, where he recently posted a piece responding to my article “Biology is not Ethics” about the conflict around FFRF and Jerry Coyne's piece "Biology is not Bigotry". We discuss Ed's objections to my accusing Coyne of arguing for bigotry and discrimination, his refusal to use "they" as a singlar pronoun, and a variety of other topics related to trans-activism in secular spaces.What is a Woman?: https://freethoughtnow.org/what-is-a-woman/Biology is not Bigotry reposted unedited at CFI's Free Inquiry magazine: https://secularhumanism.org/exclusive/biology-is-not-bigotry/Biology is not Ethics: https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/biology-is-not-ethics-a-responseFirst Person In-Trans-itive Tense? (Ed's response piece): https://edbuckner.substack.com/p/first-person-in-trans-itive-tenseMusic by GW RodriguezEditing by Adam WikSibling Pod:Philosophers in Space: https://0gphilosophy.libsyn.com/Support us at Patreon.com/EmbraceTheVoidIf you enjoy the show, please Like and Review us on your pod app, especially iTunes. It really helps!This show is CAN credentialed, which means you can report instances of harassment, abuse, or other harm on their hotline at (617) 249-4255, or on their website at creatoraccountabilitynetwork.org.Next Episode: Shorsey and Modern Masculinity with Ursa Wright

Piers Morgan Uncensored
'Men Have No Place in Women's Sports': House Passes Ban on Trans Students in Girls Sports

Piers Morgan Uncensored

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 17, 2025 51:57


House Republicans pushed through sweeping legislation on Tuesday to block transgender women and girls from school sports. The bill passed 218-206 in a vote that saw two Texas Democrats break ranks to support the Republican measure It's the latest signal of a significant cultural shift on gender ideology in the wake of President Trump's re-election. Mark Zuckerberg's Meta will now allow the questioning of gender identity without censorship. That includes allowing the view that being transgender is a mental illness. In the world of science, meanwhile, three of the world's most eminent scholars have quit an atheism foundation over its backing of what they call a new "transgender religion." One of them is Jerry Coyne, emeritus professor of ecology and evolution at the University of Chicago, whose bombshell article 'Biology is not Bigotry' claims categorically: In biology, a woman can be simply defined in four words: “An adult human female.” He speaks to Piers, followed by a debate involving Executive Director from the progressive organisation, Rebellion Pac, Brianna Wu, Trans rights activist, Eli Erlick And host of Tomi Lahren is Fearless on Outkick, Tomi Lahren. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Secular Left
Ohio's Don't Say Gay Bill Is Now Law And Professor Jerry Coyne FAFO

Secular Left

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 15, 2025 44:18 Transcription Available


Ohio's recent legislative developments have sparked significant controversy. The state's governor signed a "Don't Say Gay" bill into law, which not only limits discussions on LGBTQ+ topics in schools but also permits a Christian Nationalist group to remove children to bible study in the middle of the school day. Meanwhile, a federal judge ruled that using preferred pronouns constitutes a violation of the First Amendment, deepening the national debate on LGBTQ+ rights. Professor Jerry Coyne has come under fire for his use of biological arguments to justify discrimination, while in a positive turn, a Trans woman has been appointed to a city council, offering a glimmer of hope amid these challenges. These events reflect the growing cultural and legal tensions surrounding LGBTQ+ issues, free speech, and the role of religion in public education.We start with the contentious signing of a "Don't Say Gay" bill into law by Ohio's governor, which has drawn sharp criticism for not only silencing conversations around sexual orientation in schools, especially for younger students, but also for enabling a Christian Nationalist group to indoctrinate public school children during school hours. The bill, now formalized under House Bill 8, imposes significant restrictions on discussing sexuality and mandates that educators inform parents of any changes in a student's wellness services, particularly concerning their gender identity. The legislation aims to erase LGBTQ+ visibility while perpetuating a culture of fear and secrecy among students questioning their identities.A federal judge's recent decision, which declared that requiring teachers to use transgender students' preferred pronouns violates First Amendment rights, characterized such requirements as coercive. We emphasizes the chilling effect this ruling has on educators and students alike, reinforcing stigma and hostility against transgender individuals. We also critique the rationale used by the judge, criticizing the failure to recognize the basic dignity and rights of individuals as a cornerstone of this democracy.In a more hopeful turn, we celebrate a victory for representation as Arienne Childry, a trans woman, was appointed to the city council for St. Mary's, Ohio. This appointment marks a significant milestone as it reflects the progress being made at local levels despite the oppressive legislative environment. We underscore the importance of having representatives who genuinely embody the values of inclusion and secular humanism within governmental structures, marking Childry's presence as a beacon of hope in a state riddled with anti-LGBTQ+ sentiment.Full Show Notes & Links UsedSend us a textSupport the showSubscribe to our free newsletterCheck out our MerchFollow us on BlueskyFind us on Twitter(for now) Find us on InstagramFind us on Counter SocialFind us on Mastadon

Friendly Atheist Podcast
564 - The "New Atheist" War on Trans People

Friendly Atheist Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 2, 2025 76:36


Patreon supporters who give $5 a month will get an ad-free version of the show!Join our private Facebook group and Discord server!Jessica and I spoke about several stories from the past week involving religion and politics.— FFRF, Jerry Coyne, and why the “New Atheists” have waged war against trans people. (1:45)— Taxpayers funded this trashy, failing Mormon-based private school in Arizona. (46:45)— Oklahoma's new social studies standards go all in on Christian Nationalism. (57:15)— Texas book ban backfires after school removes Bible over "sexually explicit" content. (1:06:27)This content is CAN credentialed, which means you can report instances of harassment, abuse, or other harm on their hotline at (617) 249-4255, or on their website at creatoraccountabilitynetwork.org.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Polite Conversations
Ep 81 - Pinker's Pernicious Politeness (Pt 1)

Polite Conversations

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 15, 2024 77:33


Linguist, noted ‘Pinkerologist' and friend of the show Dr. Caitlin Green joins me to analyze and discuss the Extremely Rational thoughts of one Steven Pinker. In part 1 we discuss hats, gloves, rationality, hypocrisy, Pinker's special brand of ‘positivity P 0rn' and more! Links: Steven Pinker's aid in Jeffrey Epstein's legal defense renews criticism of an increasingly divisive public intellectual. https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2019/07/17/steven-pinkers-aid-jeffrey-epsteins-legal-defense-renews-criticism-increasingly A thread on the ironically named organization FAIR (Foundation Against Intolerance and Racism) - a who's who of some of the most intolerant and racist rightwing hacks around https://x.com/nicemangos/status/1367585945160146947?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw The Harvard Crimson: Pinker is often willing to defend his colleagues — even when it attracts controversy. In 2012, the University of Miami philosopher Colin McGinn was accused of sexual harassment by a graduate student. When the matter became public, Pinker wrote in an open letter that McGinn was a “brilliant and distinguished scholar” and that if the University of Miami pursued disciplinary action against McGinn for “exchanging sexual banter with a graduate student,” it would “put a chill on communication between faculty and graduate students and on the openness and informality on which scholarship depends.” In our conversation, Pinker often brings up “The Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature,” which, even two decades after its release, illustrates core aspects of his thinking today. The book argues that our individual behaviors — our intelligence, our sociability, our tendencies toward violence — are rooted in our genes, not just the environment in which we are raised. “.. in 2006 Pinker published a favorable review of a scientific paper which argued that Ashkenazi Jews may have evolved to have higher IQs than other racial and ethnic groups.” One of the first academics to be canceled, Pinker says, was E. O. Wilson. Wilson was a biologist and professor of evolutionary biology at Harvard. Today, he is known for two things: his award-winning work on biodiversity and his public branding as a racist. In 1975, Wilson published a book called “Sociobiology: The New Synthesis,” which argues that behaviors result from genes — “very much in the strain of work that I wrote about on human nature,” Pinker says — and stepped into a debate about scientific racism. In his book, Wilson writes that there should be a “discipline of anthropological genetics” to explore whether cultural differences are biological. https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2022/10/27/steven-pinker-scrut/ Pinker currently serves on the E. O. Wilson Biodiversity Foundation's board of advisers https://eowilsonfoundation.org/about-us/our-team/ Screenshot, Pinker upset at anti-scientism and historians ‘historicizing' https://x.com/mccormick_ted/status/1182645627169263616?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Pinker smears anti-genocide students as ‘Pro-Hamas' https://x.com/nicemangos/status/1810472709580570796?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Pinker's video about how ‘Political Correctness is redpilling America' https://x.com/nicemangos/status/1138497096569540609?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Pinker Publishes response about associations with Epstein on Jerry Coyne's blog which has also done the Just Asking Questions routine about whether convicted child r*pist Jerry Sandusky was truly guilty or not. https://x.com/nicemangos/status/1150216005114912769?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw —— Pls subscribe via patreon.com/nicemangos to support the show Pt 2 available early to patrons

Polite Conversations
SAMPLE: Ep 81 - Pinker's Pernicious Politeness (Pt 1)

Polite Conversations

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 12, 2024 20:37


*This is a public sample of an upcoming episode. Please subscribe via patreon.com to hear the full episode. Part 2 is available via the Premium tiers on Patreon.* —— Linguist, noted ‘Pinkerologist' and friend of the show Dr. Caitlin Green joins me to analyze and discuss the Extremely Rational thoughts of one Steven Pinker. In part 1 we discuss hats, gloves, rationality, hypocrisy, Pinker's special brand of ‘positivity P 0rn' and more! —— Links: Steven Pinker's aid in Jeffrey Epstein's legal defense renews criticism of an increasingly divisive public intellectual. https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2019/07/17/steven-pinkers-aid-jeffrey-epsteins-legal-defense-renews-criticism-increasingly A thread on the ironically named organization FAIR (Foundation Against Intolerance and Racism) - a who's who of some of the most intolerant and racist rightwing hacks around https://x.com/nicemangos/status/1367585945160146947?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw The Harvard Crimson: Pinker is often willing to defend his colleagues — even when it attracts controversy. In 2012, the University of Miami philosopher Colin McGinn was accused of sexual harassment by a graduate student. When the matter became public, Pinker wrote in an open letter that McGinn was a “brilliant and distinguished scholar” and that if the University of Miami pursued disciplinary action against McGinn for “exchanging sexual banter with a graduate student,” it would “put a chill on communication between faculty and graduate students and on the openness and informality on which scholarship depends.” In our conversation, Pinker often brings up “The Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature,” which, even two decades after its release, illustrates core aspects of his thinking today. The book argues that our individual behaviors — our intelligence, our sociability, our tendencies toward violence — are rooted in our genes, not just the environment in which we are raised. “.. in 2006 Pinker published a favorable review of a scientific paper which argued that Ashkenazi Jews may have evolved to have higher IQs than other racial and ethnic groups.” One of the first academics to be canceled, Pinker says, was E. O. Wilson. Wilson was a biologist and professor of evolutionary biology at Harvard. Today, he is known for two things: his award-winning work on biodiversity and his public branding as a racist. In 1975, Wilson published a book called “Sociobiology: The New Synthesis,” which argues that behaviors result from genes — “very much in the strain of work that I wrote about on human nature,” Pinker says — and stepped into a debate about scientific racism. In his book, Wilson writes that there should be a “discipline of anthropological genetics” to explore whether cultural differences are biological. https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2022/10/27/steven-pinker-scrut/ Pinker currently serves on the E. O. Wilson Biodiversity Foundation's board of advisers https://eowilsonfoundation.org/about-us/our-team/ Screenshot, Pinker upset at anti-scientism and historians ‘historicizing' https://x.com/mccormick_ted/status/1182645627169263616?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Pinker smears anti-genocide students as ‘Pro-Hamas' https://x.com/nicemangos/status/1810472709580570796?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Pinker's video about how ‘Political Correctness is redpilling America' https://x.com/nicemangos/status/1138497096569540609?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Pinker Publishes response about associations with Epstein on Jerry Coyne's blog which has also done the Just Asking Questions routine about whether convicted child r*pist Jerry Sandusky was truly guilty or not. https://x.com/nicemangos/status/1150216005114912769?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Polite Conversations
Ep 78 - Technofascism w/ Paris Marx

Polite Conversations

Play Episode Listen Later May 22, 2024 108:59


Tech critic Paris Marx (@parismarx on Twitter) of the excellent ‘Tech Won't Save us' Podcast joins me for a fascinating & frightening discussion about the intersection of Tech & Fascism. Tech Won't Save Us is a podcast that critically examines the tech industry. ——— Links: Find Tech Won't Save us Here: https://open.spotify.com/show/3UhsI7s4bkH1FcMZI5u9iD?si=15c68cd79657412d Find Paris' newsletter Disconnect here: https://disconnect.blog The Tech Won't Save us Miniseries on Musk is available here: Pt 1 https://open.spotify.com/episode/7M6jMwkb9cJ0kOrMTqzQDi?si=tHJgsAnQTlKVUlmOEYKTwg Pt 2 https://open.spotify.com/episode/3g9zikUskeQYeCxVV8ut58?si=TCiCPTB2TVGOkANlSUN8BA Pt 3 https://open.spotify.com/episode/1VQboA8VgR7UD9fXEHhDoy?si=sQnRVnZjQ36TGa-dZ1_BVw Pt 4 https://open.spotify.com/episode/3DwZUo59Qm7MFJ2cHvVWj0 si=2U0BQ4X9SLm2LmXd9h_JAA My Miniseries on Harris ‘Woking Up' is available here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1caIpbHnvDjKu0Ph4DA0Nb?si=66ec707de5ec4fd9 Polite Conversations Food & Fascism ep: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6ESZbJst9wpaEaEGziGSFo?si=scsteHS7QbaIi7XbFcEI1Q ——— More about Balaji & his ‘Tech Zionism' https://x.com/veenadubal/status/1783896103823585538?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw The New York Times instructed journalists covering Israel's war on the Gaza Strip to restrict the use of the terms “genocide” and “ethnic cleansing” and to “avoid” using the phrase “occupied territory” when describing Palestinian land, according to a copy of an internal memo obtained by The Intercept. The memo also instructs reporters not to use the word Palestine “except in very rare cases” and to steer clear of the term “refugee camps” to describe areas of Gaza historically settled by displaced Palestinians expelled from other parts of Palestine during previous Israeli–Arab wars. https://theintercept.com/2024/04/15/nyt-israel-gaza-genocide-palestine-coverage/ Australian PM has called Elon Musk an "arrogant billionaire" in an escalating feud over X's reluctance to remove footage of a church stabbing. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-68878967 Meta has apologised for adding "terrorist" to the biographies of some Instagram users describing themselves as Palestinian. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67169228 Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/dec/21/meta-facebook-instagram-pro-palestine-censorship-human-rights-watch-report Twitter Removes BBC Doc Criticizing Indian PM Narendra Modi: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/twitter-elon-musk-bbc-india-modi-1234667887/ Jerry Coyne accused of spitting on pro Palestinian protester: https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2024/05/01/credentialed-leftist-at-work/ https://x.com/yumcoconutmilk/status/1785638690678620577?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Coyne saying the more minorities u let into a school the less quality you have: https://x.com/nicemangos/status/1725166190945833392?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw ‘Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing spree in Gaza The Israeli army has marked tens of thousands of Gazans as suspects for assassination, using an AI targeting system with little human oversight and a permissive policy for casualties: https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/ CNN Political & Foreign Policy Analyst, Barak Ravid, shares what he heard from IDF soldiers - “The orders are basically just shoot every man of fighting age": https://x.com/abierkhatib/status/1775778192608931922?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw —— If you enjoy the show pls consider supporting via patreon.com/nicemangos - the show is entirely listener funded.

The Poetry of Reality with Richard Dawkins
Two Biologists On Conflict & Fascism

The Poetry of Reality with Richard Dawkins

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 3, 2023 49:41


I interviewed American biologist Jerry Coyne and author of 'Faith vs Fact: Why Science and Religion are Incompatible' and 'Why Evolution Is True'.We covered a myriad of controversial topics plaguing our world today: from the religious conflict in Gaza to modern-day struggles with freedom of speech, from the prospect of revolt against oppression to considering the demands of the Maori people, and also on affirmative action and the debate about race.

Bob Enyart Live
Bob Enyart debates Moral Relativist Greg Koukl

Bob Enyart Live

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 1, 2023


[See below for the written description of this 2007 program.] * Tragic 2020 Update: Considered a solid Christian leader by many thousands of believers (and in many ways beloved by us here at BEL), the founder and host of Stand to Reason, Greg Koukl has tragically stated, beginning at 9:40 into a podcast, that "some same sex couples are fabulous." Please pray for Greg and for the man who phoned in a question, and for all those Greg is not-so-subtly influencing to become moral relativists. Here's what happened... 9:20 A caller asks whether children are better off in foster care or adopted by same sex parents. 9:56 "Some same sex couples are fabulous. Some same sex couples are deplorable. And actually, the same is true for heterosexual couples." Greg then offers the softest possible objection to one of the fiercest moral dangers of our day, which is homosexuality. (For, "In the public square, biblical Christianity and homosexuality are mutually exclusive. One or the other will be in the closet.") He followed that by repeatedly obfuscating with moral relativist utilitarian distinctions about which parents give the "advantage" and which is "better".  Koukl draws false equivalencies between homosexuality and heterosexual singleness, cohabitation, and bad parenting. Regarding same sex parenting, "there are other things [aspects of their parenting] that may be really good... there are a number of factors that are involved here. ... All things being equal I think it is better for heterosexual couples to raise children." 12:24 "A father brings something different to the relationship than a mother does. Period." Koukl puts much more emphasis on practical distinctions than he does on the far greater matter of the utter perversion and rebellion of homosexuality. Greg exhibits more fear about how his audience will view him than he does about the child raised in a dystopian world of normalized homosexuality. "Just to show that I'm not unfairly prejudiced here... I don't believe that single people should adopt." 14:50 "What we want to do is to make decisions based on the ideal." 15:45 "This is why it's hard to make a judgment. Are children in foster care better off [being adopted by] same sex couples or better off staying in foster care. It depends on the individual circumstance. I would rather see a child in a reasonably healthy environment with a same sex couple than in an abusive environment with a heterosexual couple." If that isn't moral relativism, then there is no such thing. 16:13 Constantly equivocating on underlying morality and legitimacy, "The big thing is, what's best for the kid... Heterosexual parents are better than same sex parents, on balance." 17:07 "However if this child had no parent whatsoever and was living in the squalor in the street somewhere..." Talk about situational ethics. Would Greg rather see a child rescued from a volcanic eruption by a human trafficker, than be burned alive? Oh brother. Come on. (Here's an actual example. In our 2007 debate Greg was defending pro-abort Rudi Guiliani, who got 3% of the pimary vote, and Christian listeners applied his arguments to pro-abort Mitt Romney of course, who got 22% of the vote, with pro-abort McCain winning. Regarding Romney, the presidential candidate four years later who regarding an unborn child who might end up being raised by a crack-addicted mother, would be only too happy to support the premptive killing of that baby. Or, for that matter, he supported killing any unborn child for any reason, for Romney is the father of tax-funded late-term abortion on demand.) 18:13 "Heterosexual couples bring something more to the parenting environment than same sex couples bring." 19:05 "You've got to start from the standards and work to the circumstances that you're faced with." Which is exactly the opposite of what Greg had just done in yet another text-book case of moral relativism. * Correction: Bob unintentionally exaggerated Clinton's willingness to support the PBA ban. See the full correction at the end of this show summary. * Christian Leader Koukl Defends Candidate Giuliani: Stu Epperson moderates the debate between Bob Enyart and STR.org's Greg Koukl on Stu's syndicated TruthTalkLive.com talk show. In the debate, Koukl defends Rudi Giuliani, an aggressively pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, anti-Christian worldview candidate, as acceptable to Christian voters. Koukl denies that Giuliani is a mass murderer and denied the parallel between Koukl's own position and that of the Herodians of the New Testament. To start the debate, Bob asked Greg, "What if Rudi Giuliani is the Republican nominee, should Christians support someone like Rudi Giuliani?" Greg spent the whole show answering that question in the affirmative, stipulating only that his answer applies if two candidates in the running are Rudi and a Democrat candidate like Hillary Clinton. Bob characterized Greg's position as moral relativism. * Bob's Notes Against Christian Support for Giuliani: Christians should not support mass murderers. Rudi Giuliani is a mass murderer who as a governing official and candidate promotes child killing through public hospitals, tax funding, police enforcement, etc. Moral relativist Christians would oppose a candidate who was caught embezzling funds (not because it violates God's command, Do not steal, but because it is politically-incorrect). And while they'd not support a Republican caught embezzling, they support Republican candidates who brag of their support for killing children. The Gospels mention a pragmatic political party, the Herodians, the religious leaders who allied themselves with Herod Antipas, thinking that the Herodian dynasty was the lesser evil (than any alternative allegiance, with a choice between Herod or Christ, they would choose Herod), thinking the Herods were the best the Jewish worshippers could pragmatically expect in their hopes of attaining to their kingdom on Earth. (I have this understanding of the Herodians from my recollection of reading, way back in the 1970s, Alfred Edershiem's Life & Times of Jesus the Messiah, a classic written in the 1800s.) Like Rudi Giuliani, Herod was personally sexually immoral and murderous. Greg Koukl's moral relativism would defend supporting Herod. But John the Baptist, instead of joining the Herodians, rebuked Herod, and for his courage, this wicked ruler beheaded the man whom Jesus described as the greatest born to women (Mat. 11:11). But how would Jesus describe Koukl? Greg's moral relativism might have led him to campaign for Herod (as he does for Giuliani), and instead of persecution, Herod might have hired Koukl as an apologist for his murderous reign and his hopes for the continued support of Ceasar after Antipas built Tiberias (Koukl: yes, Herod murdered John the Baptist, but I would still campaign for him to rule). Greg Koukl is imitating the pragmatic religious leaders, the Herodians. Mat 22:16, 18 ...the Herodians, [said], "Teacher, we know that You are true, and teach the way of God in truth [lip service]... But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, "Why do you test Me, you hypocrites?" [also at Mark 12:13] Mark 3:5-6   [Jesus saw] the hardness of their hearts, [and] the Herodians [plotted] against Him, how they might destroy Him. "You shall not murder" (Rom. 13:9) "Do not kill the innocent" (Exodus 23:7) Romans 3:8 mentions "do[ing] evil that good may come of it" (Romans 3:8), Paul considered it slander to be accused of something Christians now embrace, doing evil, that good may come of it. "we must obey God rather than men" (Acts 5:29) Giuliani is not only radically pro-abortion, but for years even supported the especially horrific partial-birth abortion. Giuliani is radically pro-homosexual, and would ban all handguns. New York Daily News, March 8, 2004  Rudy Giuliani came out yesterday against President Bush's call for a ban on gay marriage. ... "I certainly wouldn't support [a ban] at this time," added Giuliani, who lived with a gay Manhattan couple when he moved out of Gracie Mansion during his nasty divorce. Secular humanists who support Giuliani: Sean Hannity, Hugh Hewitt, Michael Medved, etc. Publicans: tax collectors, public building contractors, and military suppliers. The New Testament condemns the publicans, so Christians now sell their souls for the Re-publicans. The theme of much of the Old Testament, from the books of Moses, through Joshua & Judges, through the prophets, is that God's people did not trust Him, nor obey Him, not with national politics, and instead made alliances with wicked leaders, and so God abandoned them to their own destruction. * Comments at TruthTalkLive.com: Carl: where does Koukl draw the line? ... at 100,000,000? What line must be crossed that will turn Christians from supporting wickedness and back to God? Dave: Koukl thinks that Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Alito would fight for the Personhood of a child. I guess he did not read the Supreme Court decision of Gonzales v. Carhart. John quotes Reagan: "Politics I supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." Gus B: Mr. Koukl says Giuliani will appoint justices like Thomas and Scalia. Pastor Enyart points out these two do not believe in personhood... to which Koukl says, "Pro-Life Justices are not relevant to this topic." Andrew: To support the better of two murderers is relative. ... Webster should post your photograph next to "moral relativist." * Give your opinion at TruthTalkLive.com. * Koukl on Foster Care: The socialist foster care system of the government being intimately involved in the funding and raising of children should be abolished. Sadly, in Greg Koukl's ten-minute call beginning at 9:20 about homosexuality and foster care, he never gets around to condemning either and instead makes destructive comments such as, "some same sex couples are fabulous" and misleads on a terrible aspect of socialism by saying at 15:05 that "in the foster care system there are many saints." Today's Resource: Have you seen the Government Department at our KGOV Store? You can view BOTH of our powerhouse Focus on the Strategy DVDs for only $22.99! Also, we are featuring Bruce Shortt's vitally-important book, The Harsh Truth about Public Schools. And also, check out the classic God's Criminal Justice System seminar, God and the Death Penalty, Bob on Drugs and the Live from Las Vegas DVDs! * Correction: I need to clarify a comment I made debating Greg Koukl. I unintentionally exaggerated when I stated that Hillary supported the PBA ban. I was taking this position from the years of public position the Clinton administration maintained regarding the PBA ban. When Hillary and Bill came to Colorado in 1999 and spoke as a couple to Columbine parents, Brian Rohrbough told Bill, "Mr. President, when you vetoed the PBA ban, you became responsible for murder far more violent than what happened to our children." Clinton replied, with Hillary at his side, that he would have signed the bill, but it did not have an exception for the life of the mother. To the extent that they were a two-for-one deal in the White House, I had always assumed that was her position also: willing to support the law, as long as it had exceptions (like many "pro-life" Republicans). At any rate, it was wrong to say outright that Hillary supported the ban. I should have clarified, and in the intensity of the debate, I did not realize that I had mistated her position. Also, I kept wanting to talk about Rudy's pro-abortion actions as NYC mayor, but never got that in. And finally on this, since the 1990s, we have had an Errata link on our homepage and on every page at kgov.com (just scroll down to see it) And I've also posted this correction at Stu Epperson's TruthTalkLive blog. Thanks! -Bob Enyart * Dec. 21, 2015 Update: Bob Enyart posted the following to STR... Hi STR! Dr. Richard Holland of Liberty University wrote "God, Time and the Incarnation" surveying the leading Christian theologians on this topic and concluded that specifically with respect to the Incarnation the church has never openly defended its claim that God is utterly unchangeable. In my debate with theologian Dr. James White I took that insight and five times asked him about whether God the Son took upon Himself a human nature. (There's a 2-min YouTube showing those excerpts.) So far beyond the old/new covenant issue, reaching right into the heart of the Trinity, God the Son became a Man. God is unchanging in His fierce commitment to righteousness (i.e., His holiness), but because He is the Living God, He changes in immeasurable ways, including when the Son became the Son of Man. * For Bob's Many Other Fun and Educational Debates: See kgov.com/debates for our creation/evolution sparring with Lawrence Krauss, Eugenie Scott, AronRa, Michael Shermer (and spats with Jack Horner, PZ Myers, Phil Plait, & Jerry Coyne), and our exposing the liberal in the conservative with Ann Coulter, Dan Caplis, Greg Koukl (of course), Tom Tancredo, AFA's Bryan Fischer, AUL's Paul Linton, CWA's Robert Knight, National RTL's Board, NRTL's Political Director, Focus on the Family's Washington State Affiliate; and exposing the wickedness in the liberal with Barry Lynn and libertarian candidates; and opposing the national sales tax with Ken Hoagland and Neal Boortz; and debating sexual immorality with homosexual activists Wayne Besen and Gregory Flood; and defending the death penalty on Court TV; and theology with a Seventh Day Adventist, drinking alcohol with a Church of Christ minister; and whether or not God is inexhaustibly and eternally creative with Dr. James White, and King James Onlyism with one of their leading advocates; and finally, abortion with Ilana Goldman, Peggy Loonan, and Boulder, Colorado's infamous late-term abortionist Warren Hern.  

Conversations With Coleman
Evolution, Intergenerational Trauma, and Gender with Jerry Coyne

Conversations With Coleman

Play Episode Listen Later May 26, 2023 73:09


My guest today is Jerry Coyne. Jerry is an evolutionary biologist and geneticist. He received his PhD from Harvard in 1978, after which he served as a professor at the University of Chicago in the Department of Ecology and Evolution for over two decades. His seminal work is on the speciation of fruit flies. Jerry is also the author of two books, including "Why Evolution Is True", which is also the name of his blog, and "Faith Versus Fact".In this episode, we talk about the tension between evolution and the biblical origin story. Jerry goes over the basics of the theory of evolution by natural selection. We talk about sexual selection. We talk about the teaching of intelligent design in schools and how that compares to the battle over CRT in schools today. We dicuss the attack on evolutionary psychology from the political left. We discuss epi genetics and the concept of intergenerational trauma. We talk about how humanity has evolved genetically in recent history and the consequences of birth rate differences between different groups of people. We talk about gender dysphoria and gender ideology. Finally, we go on to talk about the unanswered questions that remain in the field of evolutionary biology.

Conversations With Coleman
Evolution, Intergenerational Trauma, and Gender with Jerry Coyne

Conversations With Coleman

Play Episode Listen Later May 26, 2023 76:39


My guest today is Jerry Coyne. Jerry is an evolutionary biologist and geneticist. He received his PhD from Harvard in 1978, after which he served as a professor at the University of Chicago in the Department of Ecology and Evolution for over two decades. His seminal work is on the speciation of fruit flies. Jerry is also the author of two books, including "Why Evolution Is True", which is also the name of his blog, and "Faith Versus Fact". In this episode, we talk about the tension between evolution and the biblical origin story. Jerry goes over the basics of the theory of evolution by natural selection. We talk about sexual selection. We talk about the teaching of intelligent design in schools and how that compares to the battle over CRT in schools today. We dicuss the attack on evolutionary psychology from the political left. We discuss epi genetics and the concept of intergenerational trauma. We talk about how humanity has evolved genetically in recent history and the consequences of birth rate differences between different groups of people. We talk about gender dysphoria and gender ideology. Finally, we go on to talk about the unanswered questions that remain in the field of evolutionary biology. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Conversations With Coleman
Evolution, Intergenerational Trauma, and Gender with Jerry Coyne

Conversations With Coleman

Play Episode Listen Later May 26, 2023 73:09


My guest today is Jerry Coyne. Jerry is an evolutionary biologist and geneticist. He received his PhD from Harvard in 1978, after which he served as a professor at the University of Chicago in the Department of Ecology and Evolution for over two decades. His seminal work is on the speciation of fruit flies. Jerry is also the author of two books, including "Why Evolution Is True", which is also the name of his blog, and "Faith Versus Fact".In this episode, we talk about the tension between evolution and the biblical origin story. Jerry goes over the basics of the theory of evolution by natural selection. We talk about sexual selection. We talk about the teaching of intelligent design in schools and how that compares to the battle over CRT in schools today. We dicuss the attack on evolutionary psychology from the political left. We discuss epi genetics and the concept of intergenerational trauma. We talk about how humanity has evolved genetically in recent history and the consequences of birth rate differences between different groups of people. We talk about gender dysphoria and gender ideology. Finally, we go on to talk about the unanswered questions that remain in the field of evolutionary biology.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
Making Sense of Free Will | Episode 5 of The Essential Sam Harris

Making Sense with Sam Harris

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 14, 2023 44:18


In this episode, we examine the timeless question of “free will”: what constitutes it, what is meant by it, what ought to be meant by it, and, of course, whether we have it at all. We start with the neuroscientist Robert Sapolsky who begins to deflate the widely held intuition and assumption of “libertarian free will” by drawing out a mechanistic and determined description of the universe. We then hear from the philosopher who has long been Sam's intellectual wrestling opponent on this subject, Daniel Dennett. Dennett and Sam spar about definitional and epistemological frameworks of what Dennett insists is “free will,” and what Sam contends could never be. The author and physicist Sean Carroll then engages Sam with more attempts to find a philosophically defensible notion of free will by leaning on the unknowable nature of the universe revealed by quantum mechanics. We then listen in on Sam's engagement with the mathematician and author Judea Pearl who focuses on matters of causation to tease out a freedom of will. After a historical review of Princess Elizabeth's famous exchanges with Rene Descartes, we hear from the biologist Jerry Coyne, who firmly agrees with Sam that a deterministic picture of reality leaves absolutely no room for anything like free will. We then hear from the curiously entertaining mind of comedian and producer Ricky Gervais who was thinking about free will while taking a bath when he decided to phone Sam. We conclude with Sam's own response to concerns that an erasure of free will inevitably result in fatalism, loss of meaning, and passive defeat. Sam insists that the loss of free will actually pushes us in the opposite direction where we begin to see hatred and vengeance as incoherent and start to connect with a deeper and truer sense of genuine compassion.   About the Series Filmmaker Jay Shapiro has produced The Essential Sam Harris, a new series of audio documentaries exploring the major topics that Sam has focused on over the course of his career. Each episode weaves together original analysis, critical perspective, and novel thought experiments with some of the most compelling exchanges from the Making Sense archive. Whether you are new to a particular topic, or think you have your mind made up about it, we think you'll find this series fascinating.

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In this episode, we examine the timeless question of “free will”: what constitutes it, what is meant by it, what ought to be meant by it, and, of course, whether we have it at all. We start with the neuroscientist Robert Sapolsky who begins to deflate the widely held intuition and assumption of “libertarian free will” by drawing out a mechanistic and determined description of the universe. We then hear from the philosopher who has long been Sam’s intellectual wrestling opponent on this subject, Daniel Dennett. Dennett and Sam spar about definitional and epistemological frameworks of what Dennett insists is “free will,” and what Sam contends could never be. The author and physicist Sean Carroll then engages Sam with more attempts to find a philosophically defensible notion of free will by leaning on the unknowable nature of the universe revealed by quantum mechanics. We then listen in on Sam’s engagement with the mathematician and author Judea Pearl who focuses on matters of causation to tease out a freedom of will. After a historical review of Princess Elizabeth’s famous exchanges with Rene Descartes, we hear from the biologist Jerry Coyne, who firmly agrees with Sam that a deterministic picture of reality leaves absolutely no room for anything like free will. We then hear from the curiously entertaining mind of comedian and producer Ricky Gervais who was thinking about free will while taking a bath when he decided to phone Sam. We conclude with Sam’s own response to concerns that an erasure of free will inevitably result in fatalism, loss of meaning, and passive defeat. Sam insists that the loss of free will actually pushes us in the opposite direction where we begin to see hatred and vengeance as incoherent and start to connect with a deeper and truer sense of genuine compassion. About the Series Filmmaker Jay Shapiro has produced The Essential Sam Harris, a new series of audio documentaries exploring the major topics that Sam has focused on over the course of his career. Each episode weaves together original analysis, critical perspective, and novel thought experiments with some of the most compelling exchanges from the Making Sense archive. Whether you are new to a particular topic, or think you have your mind made up about it, we think you’ll find this series fascinating.

The Best of the Bible Answer Man Broadcast
From Abortion to Infanticide, and Q&A

The Best of the Bible Answer Man Broadcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2023 28:01


On today's Bible Answer Man broadcast (01/20/23), Hank discusses a blog he read by Jerry Coyne, professor emeritus at the University of Chicago in the Department of Ecology and Evolution, who was not only defending abortion but also infanticide. Coyne writes, “If you are allowed to abort a fetus that has a severe genetic defect… then why aren't you able to euthanize that same fetus just after it's born? I see no substantive difference that would make the former act moral and the latter immoral.” On one level he is absolutely right; if you can abort a late-term child, why not take the next step and abort a child a few days after it is born? The problem here is a failure to recognize that that child has personhood from the moment of conception.Hank also answers the following questions:I became a Christian many years ago but lived a very sinful life. Recently the Lord got a hold of me and I repented. Do I still have a chance to go to heaven?Is it possible to sin against another person, as well as against God?

Revue de presse française
À la Une: le Noël métachronique des Ukrainiens

Revue de presse française

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 25, 2022 4:45


Depuis 440 ans, la messe est dite, le 25 décembre, pour les catholiques, c'est Noël ! Ainsi le stipule le calendrier grégorien. Pour les orthodoxes, en revanche - en Ukraine, en Russie ou ailleurs - Noël, c'est le 7 janvier, comme l'accrédite le calendrier julien. Toutefois, « pour se démarquer des orthodoxes russes (…) de plus en plus d'Ukrainiens rompent avec la tradition du 7 janvier et choisissent la date du 25 décembre », signale Le Figaro. « Cette année, de plus en plus de croyants ukrainiens souhaitent célébrer Noël en même temps que Paris, Berlin ou Londres et non pas Moscou », explique ce journal. Dans le froid et souvent dans l'obscurité. Bon Noël à eux. Ukraine, les Français veulent une solution négociée Justement, le soutien à l'Ukraine, jusqu'où ? Dans le conflit qui l'oppose à la Russie, l'immense majorité des Français veulent une solution négociée. Selon un sondage Ifop pour Le Journal du Dimanche, « les Français adhèrent à cette idée de soutenir « en même temps » l'idée d'une négociation et le soutien sans faille à l'Ukraine. Mais sans se faire d'illusion à court terme, constate Le JDD, un Français sur cinq seulement croyant en une fin du conflit possible d'ici à la fin de l'année 2023 ».  Et, en effet, cette enquête indique que 7 Français sur 10 souhaitent que la France et l'Union européenne « cherchent d'abord à parvenir à une solution négociée entre l'Ukraine et la Russie, tout en continuant à fournir une aide militaire importante aux Ukrainiens », contre 3 sur 10 qui estiment que la France et l'Union européenne « continuent à fournir une aide militaire importante à l'Ukraine pour permettre à ce pays de battre militairement la Russie », rapporte Le Journal du Dimanche. Lequel hebdomadaire signale aussi qu'aux États-Unis, la dernière enquête d'opinion menée par l'institut Chicago Council on Global Affairs, révèle « qu'il n'y a plus que 48% d'Américains à souscrire au maintien d'une aide à l'Ukraine « le temps qu'il faudra », quoi qu'il en coûte au budget des États-Unis. C'est dix points de moins qu'en juillet dernier. Et il n'y a plus que 33% d'électeurs républicains à envisager cette option », pointe encore Le JDD. Les Savonarole de gauche À la Une cette semaine également, « les nouveaux obscurantistes ». Ils venaient autrefois des mouvements religieux et ils étaient plutôt de droite. À présent, c'est l'inverse. « Un nouvel obscurantisme se développe à gauche », constate L'Express. Lequel hebdomadaire consacre en effet son numéro de Noël à ces « nouveaux obscurantistes » dont « l'erreur fondamentale », selon ce magazine, est de « confondre science et morale, et vouloir abolir tout ce qui, dans la nature, semble s'opposer à leur credo progressiste ». Dans l'inventaire des « attaques contre la biologie » dressé pour L'Express par le biologiste américain Jerry Coyne, on trouve notamment « le déni du sexe biologique » la « mise au même niveau » des « savoirs autochtones » et de la science moderne jugée « colonialiste », sans omettre l'idéologie de la « page blanche » selon laquelle les êtres humains seraient uniquement « le produit de leur environnement et non pas de leurs gènes ». De quoi conduire ce professeur émérite de l'université de Chicago, réputé de centre gauche, à juger « inquiétantes » les attaques contre la science « venant de la gauche ». Car si, selon lui, le créationnisme « a pratiquement disparu des universités », Jerry Coyne explique à L'Express qu'à l'inverse, « les attaques contre la science venant de la gauche ont lieu à l'intérieur du système éducatif ». Or ce qui est aujourd'hui enseigné – ou pas enseigné - dans les écoles « aura une grande influence sur nos connaissances dans le futur », prévient-il dans L'Express. Ébouriffant ! Harmonie en Patagonie Balade, pour conclure, dans les parcs nationaux du Chili. L'hebdomadaire L'Obs nous invite à la découverte des dix-sept parcs nationaux situés en Patagonie, extrême-sud du Chili, « où des dizaines d'espèces se réapproprient des territoires dévastés par l'homme ». Voici le nandou de Darwin (une autruche, en plus petit) ; voici le condor (un vautour, en plus grand) ; voici le huemul (un chevreuil, en plus gros). À l'origine du projet, un couple d'Américains, Doug et Kris Tomkins, qui, après avoir fait fortune dans le monde des affaires, ont tout réinvesti dans l'achat et la réhabilitation de terres nécessaires à la réintroduction de ces espèces menacées. Des terres qu'ils ont ensuite données à l'État chilien. Doug est mort il y a sept ans, mais Kris, sa femme, a continué l'œuvre. Et les résultats sont là. Sur place, L'Obs a constaté un « petit miracle » en train de se produire dans ce vrai poumon de la nature qu'est désormais le sud du Chili. Esprit de Noël, où es-tu ? Pas au Pôle nord, non, en Patagonie…

Intelligent Design the Future
Brian Miller: The Surprising Relevance of Engineering in Biology

Intelligent Design the Future

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2022 41:38 Very Popular


Today's ID the Future brings listeners physicist and engineer Brian Miller's recent lecture at the Dallas Conference on Science and Faith, “The Surprising Relevance of Engineering in Biology.” Miller rebuts several popular arguments for evolution based on claims of poor design in living systems, everything from the “backward wiring” of the vertebrate eye to whales, wrists, ankles, and “junk DNA.” But the main emphasis of this discussion is the exciting sea change in biology in which numerous breakthroughs are occurring by scientists who are treating living systems and subsystems as if they are optimally engineered systems. Some in this movement reject intelligent design for ideological reasons. Others embrace it. But all systems biologists treat these systems as if they are masterfully engineered Read More › Source

Bob Enyart Live
Bob Enyart debates Moral Relativist Greg Koukl

Bob Enyart Live

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2022


Today we're going back to a debate between the late great Bob Enyart and famed Christian apologist and talk show host Greg Koukl of Reasons to Believe. Tragically, Koukl puts on full display his moral relativism, which Bob takes issue with. This debate is the battle of two conservatives, both intellectual powerhouses. Dominic Enyart will also be adding some commentary on today's broadcast classic, then next week on Bob Enyart Live we're going to get to a devastating 2020 update from Koukl where he said, "some same sex couples are fabulous." Today's Resource: Monthly Bible Study Subscription Receive Bible studies once a month, and start by getting a firm foundation of the basics. Once you have a solid understanding of the overall plot of the Bible, the origins of Israel, the integration of the gentiles, and the character of God, then you'll be ready to dive into the deeper details of the Bible. Start with the milk, then graduate to the meat. Those who have subscribed to the Monthly Bible studies have said it's changed their life dramatically for the better and given them a new appreciation for the Bible and God Himself. Sign up now, before prices rise! (Due to inflation. Thanks, Biden- ugh.) See the original show summary below from October 26th, 2007.  [See below for the written description of this 2007 program.] * Tragic 2020 Update: Considered a solid Christian leader by many thousands of believers (and in many ways beloved by us here at BEL), the founder and host of Stand to Reason, Greg Koukl has tragically stated, beginning at 9:40 into a podcast, that "some same sex couples are fabulous." Please pray for Greg and for the man who phoned in a question, and for all those Greg is not-so-subtly influencing to become moral relativists. Here's what happened... A caller asks whether children are better off in foster care or adopted by same sex parents. "Some same sex couples are fabulous. Some same sex couples are deplorable. And actually, the same is true for heterosexual couples." Greg then offers the softest possible objection to one of the fiercest moral dangers of our day, which is homosexuality. (For, "In the public square, biblical Christianity and homosexuality are mutually exclusive. One or the other will be in the closet.") He followed that by repeatedly obfuscating with moral relativist utilitarian distinctions about which parents give the "advantage" and which is "better".  Koukl draws false equivalencies between homosexuality and heterosexual singleness, cohabitation, and bad parenting. Regarding same sex parenting, "there are other things [aspects of their parenting] that may be really good... there are a number of factors that are involved here. ... All things being equal I think it is better for heterosexual couples to raise children." "A father brings something different to the relationship than a mother does. Period." Koukl puts much more emphasis on practical distinctions than he does on the far greater matter of the utter perversion and rebellion of homosexuality. Greg exhibits more fear about how his audience will view him than he does about the child raised in a dystopian world of normalized homosexuality. "Just to show that I'm not unfairly prejudiced here... I don't believe that single people should adopt." "What we want to do is to make decisions based on the ideal." "This is why it's hard to make a judgment. Are children in foster care better off [being adopted by] same sex couples or better off staying in foster care. It depends on the individual circumstance. I would rather see a child in a reasonably healthy environment with a same sex couple than in an abusive environment with a heterosexual couple." If that isn't moral relativism, then there is no such thing. Constantly equivocating on underlying morality and legitimacy, "The big thing is, what's best for the kid... Heterosexual parents are better than same sex parents, on balance." "However if this child had no parent whatsoever and was living in the squalor in the street somewhere..." Talk about situational ethics. Would Greg rather see a child rescued from a volcanic eruption by a human trafficker, than be burned alive? Oh brother. Come on. (Here's an actual example. In our 2007 debate Greg was defending pro-abort Rudi Guiliani, who got 3% of the pimary vote, and Christian listeners applied his arguments to pro-abort Mitt Romney of course, who got 22% of the vote, with pro-abort McCain winning. Regarding Romney, the presidential candidate four years later who regarding an unborn child who might end up being raised by a crack-addicted mother, would be only too happy to support the premptive killing of that baby. Or, for that matter, he supported killing any unborn child for any reason, for Romney is the father of tax-funded late-term abortion on demand.) "Heterosexual couples bring something more to the parenting environment than same sex couples bring." "You've got to start from the standards and work to the circumstances that you're faced with." Which is exactly the opposite of what Greg had just done in yet another text-book case of moral relativism. * Correction: Bob unintentionally exaggerated Clinton's willingness to support the PBA ban. See the full correction at the end of this show summary. * Christian Leader Koukl Defends Candidate Giuliani: Stu Epperson moderates the debate between Bob Enyart and STR.org's Greg Koukl on Stu's syndicated TruthTalkLive.com talk show. In the debate, Koukl defends Rudi Giuliani, an aggressively pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, anti-Christian worldview candidate, as acceptable to Christian voters. Koukl denies that Giuliani is a mass murderer and denied the parallel between Koukl's own position and that of the Herodians of the New Testament. To start the debate, Bob asked Greg, "What if Rudi Giuliani is the Republican nominee, should Christians support someone like Rudi Giuliani?" Greg spent the whole show answering that question in the affirmative, stipulating only that his answer applies if two candidates in the running are Rudi and a Democrat candidate like Hillary Clinton. Bob characterized Greg's position as moral relativism. * Bob's Notes Against Christian Support for Giuliani: Christians should not support mass murderers. Rudi Giuliani is a mass murderer who as a governing official and candidate promotes child killing through public hospitals, tax funding, police enforcement, etc. Moral relativist Christians would oppose a candidate who was caught embezzling funds (not because it violates God's command, Do not steal, but because it is politically-incorrect). And while they'd not support a Republican caught embezzling, they support Republican candidates who brag of their support for killing children. The Gospels mention a pragmatic political party, the Herodians, the religious leaders who allied themselves with Herod Antipas, thinking that the Herodian dynasty was the lesser evil (than any alternative allegiance, with a choice between Herod or Christ, they would choose Herod), thinking the Herods were the best the Jewish worshippers could pragmatically expect in their hopes of attaining to their kingdom on Earth. (I have this understanding of the Herodians from my recollection of reading, way back in the 1970s, Alfred Edershiem's Life & Times of Jesus the Messiah, a classic written in the 1800s.) Like Rudi Giuliani, Herod was personally sexually immoral and murderous. Greg Koukl's moral relativism would defend supporting Herod. But John the Baptist, instead of joining the Herodians, rebuked Herod, and for his courage, this wicked ruler beheaded the man whom Jesus described as the greatest born to women (Mat. 11:11). But how would Jesus describe Koukl? Greg's moral relativism might have led him to campaign for Herod (as he does for Giuliani), and instead of persecution, Herod might have hired Koukl as an apologist for his murderous reign and his hopes for the continued support of Ceasar after Antipas built Tiberias (Koukl: yes, Herod murdered John the Baptist, but I would still campaign for him to rule). Greg Koukl is imitating the pragmatic religious leaders, the Herodians. Mat 22:16, 18 ...the Herodians, [said], "Teacher, we know that You are true, and teach the way of God in truth [lip service]... But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, "Why do you test Me, you hypocrites?" [also at Mark 12:13] Mark 3:5-6   [Jesus saw] the hardness of their hearts, [and] the Herodians [plotted] against Him, how they might destroy Him. "You shall not murder" (Rom. 13:9) "Do not kill the innocent" (Exodus 23:7) Romans 3:8 mentions "do[ing] evil that good may come of it" (Romans 3:8), Paul considered it slander to be accused of something Christians now embrace, doing evil, that good may come of it. "we must obey God rather than men" (Acts 5:29) Giuliani is not only radically pro-abortion, but for years even supported the especially horrific partial-birth abortion. Giuliani is radically pro-homosexual, and would ban all handguns. New York Daily News, March 8, 2004  Rudy Giuliani came out yesterday against President Bush's call for a ban on gay marriage. ... "I certainly wouldn't support [a ban] at this time," added Giuliani, who lived with a gay Manhattan couple when he moved out of Gracie Mansion during his nasty divorce. Secular humanists who support Giuliani: Sean Hannity, Hugh Hewitt, Michael Medved, etc. Publicans: tax collectors, public building contractors, and military suppliers. The New Testament condemns the publicans, so Christians now sell their souls for the Re-publicans. The theme of much of the Old Testament, from the books of Moses, through Joshua & Judges, through the prophets, is that God's people did not trust Him, nor obey Him, not with national politics, and instead made alliances with wicked leaders, and so God abandoned them to their own destruction. * Comments at TruthTalkLive.com: Carl: where does Koukl draw the line? ... at 100,000,000? What line must be crossed that will turn Christians from supporting wickedness and back to God? Dave: Koukl thinks that Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Alito would fight for the Personhood of a child. I guess he did not read the Supreme Court decision of Gonzales v. Carhart. John quotes Reagan: "Politics I supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." Gus B: Mr. Koukl says Giuliani will appoint justices like Thomas and Scalia. Pastor Enyart points out these two do not believe in personhood... to which Koukl says, "Pro-Life Justices are not relevant to this topic." Andrew: To support the better of two murderers is relative. ... Webster should post your photograph next to "moral relativist." * Give your opinion at TruthTalkLive.com. * Koukl on Foster Care: The socialist foster care system of the government being intimately involved in the funding and raising of children should be abolished. Sadly, in Greg Koukl's ten-minute call beginning at 9:20 about homosexuality and foster care, he never gets around to condemning either and instead makes destructive comments such as, "some same sex couples are fabulous" and misleads on a terrible aspect of socialism by saying at 15:05 that "in the foster care system there are many saints." Today's Resource: Have you seen the Government Department at our KGOV Store? You can view BOTH of our powerhouse Focus on the Strategy DVDs for only $22.99! Also, we are featuring Bruce Shortt's vitally-important book, The Harsh Truth about Public Schools. And also, check out the classic God's Criminal Justice System seminar, God and the Death Penalty, Bob on Drugs and the Live from Las Vegas DVDs! * Correction: I need to clarify a comment I made debating Greg Koukl. I unintentionally exaggerated when I stated that Hillary supported the PBA ban. I was taking this position from the years of public position the Clinton administration maintained regarding the PBA ban. When Hillary and Bill came to Colorado in 1999 and spoke as a couple to Columbine parents, Brian Rohrbough told Bill, "Mr. President, when you vetoed the PBA ban, you became responsible for murder far more violent than what happened to our children." Clinton replied, with Hillary at his side, that he would have signed the bill, but it did not have an exception for the life of the mother. To the extent that they were a two-for-one deal in the White House, I had always assumed that was her position also: willing to support the law, as long as it had exceptions (like many "pro-life" Republicans). At any rate, it was wrong to say outright that Hillary supported the ban. I should have clarified, and in the intensity of the debate, I did not realize that I had mistated her position. Also, I kept wanting to talk about Rudy's pro-abortion actions as NYC mayor, but never got that in. And finally on this, since the 1990s, we have had an Errata link on our homepage and on every page at kgov.com (just scroll down to see it) And I've also posted this correction at Stu Epperson's TruthTalkLive blog. Thanks! -Bob Enyart * Dec. 21, 2015 Update: Bob Enyart posted the following to STR... Hi STR! Dr. Richard Holland of Liberty University wrote "God, Time and the Incarnation" surveying the leading Christian theologians on this topic and concluded that specifically *with respect to the Incarnation* the church has never openly defended its claim that God is utterly unchangeable. In my debate with theologian Dr. James White I took that insight and five times asked him about whether God the Son took upon Himself a human nature. (There's a 2-min YouTube showing those excerpts.) So far beyond the old/new covenant issue, reaching right into the heart of the Trinity, God the Son became a Man. God is unchanging in His fierce commitment to righteousness (i.e., His holiness), but because He is the Living God, He changes in immeasurable ways, including when the Son became the Son of Man. * For Bob's Many Other Fun and Educational Debates: See kgov.com/debates for our creation/evolution sparring with Lawrence Krauss, Eugenie Scott, AronRa, Michael Shermer (and spats with Jack Horner, PZ Myers, Phil Plait, & Jerry Coyne), and our exposing the liberal in the conservative with Ann Coulter, Dan Caplis, Greg Koukl (of course), Tom Tancredo, AFA's Bryan Fischer, AUL's Paul Linton, CWA's Robert Knight, National RTL's Board, NRTL's Political Director, Focus on the Family's Washington State Affiliate; and exposing the wickedness in the liberal with Barry Lynn and libertarian candidates; and opposing the national sales tax with Ken Hoagland and Neal Boortz; and debating sexual immorality with homosexual activists Wayne Besen and Gregory Flood; and defending the death penalty on Court TV; and theology with a Seventh Day Adventist, drinking alcohol with a Church of Christ minister; and whether or not God is inexhaustibly and eternally creative with Dr. James White, and King James Onlyism with one of their leading advocates; and finally, abortion with Ilana Goldman, Peggy Loonan, and Boulder, Colorado's infamous late-term abortionist Warren Hern.  

The Best of the Bible Answer Man Broadcast
Best of BAM: Abortion and Infanticide, and Q&A

The Best of the Bible Answer Man Broadcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 16, 2022 28:01


On today's Bible Answer Man broadcast, Hank discusses a blog he read by Jerry Coyne, professor emeritus at the University of Chicago in the Department of Ecology and Evolution, who was not only defending abortion but also infanticide. Coyne writes, “If you are allowed to abort a fetus that has a severe genetic defect… then why aren't you able to euthanize that same fetus just after it's born? I see no substantive difference that would make the former act moral and the latter immoral.” On one level he is absolutely right; if you can abort a late-term child, why not take the next step and abort a child a few days after it is born? The problem here is a failure to recognize that that child has personhood from the moment of conception.Hank also answers the following questions:How can I address an atheist who claims that since evil exists, God doesn't exist?I have been a Mormon all of my life. If it's true that Mormonism is a cult, what should I do?

Intelligent Design the Future
Dr. Michael Egnor: How Science is Censored

Intelligent Design the Future

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 15, 2022 12:12 Very Popular


On this ID the Future from the vault, award-winning neurosurgery professor Michael Egnor joins host Casey Luskin to talk more about his interactions with atheist evolutionary biologist Dr. Jerry Coyne. Listen in as Egnor tells about Jerry Coyne's efforts against open discourse on intelligent design and evolution—specifically two incidents of censorship, one at Ball State University and the other at the LA County Museum of Natural History. Source

Intelligent Design the Future
Evolution and the Disturbing Consequences of Denying Free Will

Intelligent Design the Future

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 8, 2022 12:11 Very Popular


On this ID the Future from the vault, hear more of professor of neurosurgery Michael Egnor and host Casey Luskin's discussion on free will. If there is no free will, and humans are merely following our chemical instructions, then how can we recognize evil and good? How can an evolutionist such as Jerry Coyne condemn even something as manifestly heinous as the Nazi holocaust? Egnor explains how Coyne manages it and argues that the attempt doesn't wash. The best solution is to reject evolutionary materialism and accept what humans recognize at a deep level, Egnor says, namely that we are moral agents capable of freely choosing between good and evil. Egnor further argues that taking Coyne's approach of denying free Read More › Source

The Best of the Bible Answer Man Broadcast
Abortion and Infanticide, and Q&A

The Best of the Bible Answer Man Broadcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 6, 2022 28:01


On today's Bible Answer Man broadcast (07/06/22), Hank discusses a blog he read by Jerry Coyne, professor emeritus at the University of Chicago in the Department of Ecology and Evolution, who was not only defending abortion but also infanticide. Coyne writes, “If you are allowed to abort a fetus that has a severe genetic defect… then why aren't you able to euthanize that same fetus just after it's born? I see no substantive difference that would make the former act moral and the latter immoral.” On one level he is absolutely right; if you can abort a late-term child, why not take the next step and abort a child a few days after it is born? The problem here is a failure to recognize that that child has personhood from the moment of conception.Hank also answers the following questions:I became a Christian many years ago but lived a very sinful life. Recently the Lord got a hold of me and I repented. Do I still have a chance to go to heaven?Is it possible to sin against another person, as well as against God?

The Deconversion Podcast
Episode 12: Creationism Vs Evolution for The Recently Deconverted.

The Deconversion Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 6, 2022 79:16 Transcription Available


Evolution is a rich and complex subject that may be very foreign or intimidating for those who have left religion. Today Isaac and Tim tackle the subject of Evolution vs Creationism. We discuss the basics of both ideas, and common arguments for those who may be new to this subject matter. Our goal with this episode is to encourage our audience to go learn more about this topic, and to arm you against common religious arguments against evolution. Spoiler alert....they aren't very good arguments. Links: CosmosThe Greatest Show On Earth by Richard Dawkins.The Language of God by Francis Collins.Why Evolution Is True by Jerry Coyne.Article: 15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense.  

Intelligent Design the Future
Neurosurgeon Michael Egnor: Humans Have Free Will

Intelligent Design the Future

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2022 13:05 Very Popular


On this ID the Future from the vault, professor of neurosurgery Michael Egnor and host Casey Luskin continue their conversation, here discussing Dr. Egnor's experience in an online debate on free will with evolutionary biologist Dr. Jerry Coyne. Listen in as Dr. Egnor explains why the argument against free will is self-refuting and why he's concluded that determinism as a theory in physics is dead. Source

Intelligent Design the Future
A Brain Surgeon Debates Evolutionist Jerry Coyne and Other Atheists

Intelligent Design the Future

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2022 11:36 Very Popular


On this ID the Future from the vault, brain surgeon and Evolution News blogger Michael Egnor talks with host Casey Luskin about his internet debates with Jerry Coyne and the trends and dynamics he sees in the intelligent design/evolution blogosphere. Dr. Egnor also speaks briefly on the evidence he sees for intelligent design in the brain, what atheist and science writer Isaac Asimov once described as “the most complicated organization of matter that we know.” Egnor says that may be true but that we needn't look to the brain for confirmation that something in nature required intelligent design. We can find powerful evidence of it in something far humbler. Tune in to listen to his answer, and stay tuned for Read More › Source

The Shape of Dialogue
Science vs "Other Ways of Knowing" with Professor Jerry Coyne - The Shape of Dialogue Podcast # 9

The Shape of Dialogue

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 6, 2022 100:49


About Jerry Coyne - www.whyevolutionistrue.com/about/ Jerry's Why Evolution Is True blog - “Ways of knowing” - https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa1h0MFIxell0X3VUTzN3MEFNT0hCN24zTnRBQXxBQ3Jtc0trMWR2aXJjUlZ1TloxY2F4Y1dSbWd1eFcxbTNyOW4xWXl2WURweUVmNzk3dm9oSmNLNmdoWkJuYndtN3V4OWMtdXJMV0ZwRFJJajl3S0hrZjZxa3FUTExTWW84S1FzRUFqLUFhd1lKaDRRWVRsX2lRZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2F3tmmx59d (https://tinyurl.com/3tmmx59d) Email Royal Society of New Zealand chief executive paul.atkins@royalsociety.org.nz ContextIn July 2021, seven University of Auckland professors published a letter to the editor in the New Zealand Listener, titled In Defence of Science. The professors' were responding to a Government education report (see link below), recommending parity for Mātauranga Māori (traditional Māori knowledge) in the secondary school curriculum, and in particular, in the science classroom. The report states:  ”Our goal is to ensure parity for Mātauranga Māori with the other bodies of knowledge credentialed by NCEA (particularly Western/Pākehā epistemologies)."  The report also states:  "Philosophy and History of Science is a unique strand in Pūtaiao [Māori word for Science], with no equivalent in the New Zealand Curriculum. It promotes discussion and analysis of the ways in which science has been used to support the dominance of Eurocentric views (among which, its use as a rationale for colonisation of Māori and the suppression of Māori knowledge); and the notion that science is a Western European invention and itself evidence of European dominance over Māori and other indigenous peoples. Pūtaiao allows opportunities to incorporate Māori perspectives and knowledge about the natural world into the classroom. In this regard, it decentres Western epistemologies and methodologies."  The professors' letter arose from their concern for "the disturbing misunderstandings of science emerging at all levels of education and in science funding", which they state “encourages a mistrust of science”. Their concern is in the context of the decline in maths and science achievements in New Zealand schools, particularly by Māori and Pacific Island students.  Their letter stated:  "Indigenous knowledge is critical for the preservation and perpetuation of culture and local practices, and plays key roles in management and policy. However, in the discovery of empirical, universal truths, it falls far short of what we can define as science itself. To accept it as the equivalent of science is to patronise and fail indigenous populations; better to ensure that everyone participates in the world's scientific enterprises. Indigenous knowledge may indeed help advance scientific knowledge in some ways, but it is not science".  The reaction to the "In Defence of Science" by the University of Auckland, the Royal Society of New Zealand Te Apārangi, the Tertiary Education Union, and the New Zealand Association of Scientists was not positive and can be viewed in the following articles…  Scientists rubbish Auckland University professors' letter claiming Māori knowledge is not science https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbkZ6M1BHa0dJUFIzODR6NUwzTjJOU2xYMVNoUXxBQ3Jtc0tuMEU5YUFjV3Vua2M4WWJhTkliTW1HcE5XU0VWZngyTTJieEh3anVSbm9mb1JwS1M2UjgzQVJjYUNEaE43NmNweDV1RC1fX3Zyc1plTTAwaWVlYWlyRFFsWnVkZjMzRnQwZHE5d0YyQkx2bEh2WVNDQQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2F2p8v2h9s%C2%A0 (https://tinyurl.com/2p8v2h9s ) University academics' claim Mātauranga Māori 'not science' sparks controversy https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbkxvWnhidjV6U0hTSzQ1M19oX19tZE54VzgyQXxBQ3Jtc0ttcU9lYWwtV0dXNEowbGtVdDJzMkhCV3dNUDJiYm1QSG5UQVdidmNpZmVCbGpqOV9oOWZrZHJPa29EM2R5NGdzVUlvZWdXMDY4X3RFNlZtWk1ia1kyaDI5THNhODltbTRwVDJIdTZrNnF4WDM1Yzdxbw&q=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2F2ybvk3ja%C2%A0...

The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad
My Chat with Evolutionary Biologist Dr. Jerry Coyne (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_316)

The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 5, 2021 77:16


Topics tackled include the pros and cons of dogs versus cats, various issues dealing with evolution including evolutionary psychology and evolutionary genetics, the sociobiology war at Harvard University in the late 1970s (E. O. Wilson versus Richard Lewontin and Stephen Jay Gould), atheism, the schism between science and religion, freedom of speech, academic freedom, forbidden knowledge, political correctness on campuses, virtue signalling, and criticism of Islam. _______________________________________ Jerry's blog Why Evolution is True: https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com Jerry's Twitter account: @Evolutionistrue Jerry's books on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Jerry-A.-Coyne/e/B001JSCB22 _______________________________________ This chat was posted originally on Ora.tv back in 2016 and on my YouTube channel on April 9, 2016 as THE SAAD TRUTH_156: https://youtu.be/LGzvinJki_k _______________________________________ If you appreciate my work and would like to support it: https://subscribestar.com/the-saad-truth https://patreon.com/GadSaad https://paypal.me/GadSaad _______________________________________ This chat was posted earlier today (November 1, 2021) on my YouTube channel as THE SAAD TRUTH_1328: https://youtu.be/0Gs--nmKbb0 _______________________________________ The Parasitic Mind: How Infectious Ideas Are Killing Common Sense (paperback edition) was released on October 5, 2021. Order your copy now. https://www.amazon.com/Parasitic-Mind-Infectious-Killing-Common/dp/162157959X/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= https://www.amazon.ca/Parasitic-Mind-Infectious-Killing-Common/dp/162157959X https://www.amazon.co.uk/Parasitic-Mind-Infectious-Killing-Common/dp/162157959X _______________________________________ Please visit my website gadsaad.com, and sign up for alerts. If you appreciate my content, click on the "Support My Work" button. I count on my fans to support my efforts. You can donate via Patreon, PayPal, and/or SubscribeStar. _______________________________________ Dr. Gad Saad is a professor, evolutionary behavioral scientist, and author who pioneered the use of evolutionary psychology in marketing and consumer behavior. In addition to his scientific work, Dr. Saad is a leading public intellectual who often writes and speaks about idea pathogens that are destroying logic, science, reason, and common sense. _______________________________________  

Intelligent Design the Future
Rabbi Moshe Averick Talks ID, Atheism and Nonsense of a High Order

Intelligent Design the Future

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 1, 2021 17:13


On this episode of ID the Future from the vault, host Ira Berkowitz continues a conversation with Rabbi Moshe Averick about the rabbi's book Nonsense of a High Order: The Confused World of Modern Atheism. Averick answers the who-designed-the-designer objection, shows how questions about God and intelligent design can't be shoved aside as unimportant, and has a bit of fun recounting a dustup he had with evolutionist Jerry Coyne. Source

Bob Enyart Live
*The 360-Day Year on Real Science Radio

Bob Enyart Live

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 3, 2021


*Today we present the return of a classic show. * Did the whole world once use a 360-day calendar? If so, why? From our archives, RSR hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams look at the Mayans, Egyptians, Aztecs, Indians, Sumerians, Babylonians, Greeks, Romans, Chinese, and the Hebrew Bible to answer the first question: Yes, ancient civilizations used a 360-day calendar. To answer the question why, one must keep in mind the sophistication of ancient astronomers. Nasa reports that in 650 B.C., "Mayan astronomers [made] detailed observations of Venus, leading to a highly accurate calendar." And the Encyclopedia of Time says of the Aztecs that, "they carried on and further developed calendrical traditions that had their roots some 2,000 years before their own time." Real Science Radio investigates the reason why the ancient world used a 360-day calendar and discusses a mechanism for speeding up the rotation of the Earth that in historical times could add 5.24 days to the year. See more at 360dayyear.com. * RSR on YouTube: You're invited to check out RSR's 360-day year program turned into this important YouTube video: * The Calendar is one of the Greatest Monuments of a Culture: Along with language, the calendar is one of the greatest monuments of a culture. Ranke, as quoted by Norman Lockyer (The Origin of the Year, 1982, Nature, p. 487) wrote, "The calendar may be considered the noblest relic of the most ancient times which has influenced the world." And in 1903 Emmeline Plunket judged (Calendars and Constellations of the Ancient World, 1903, p. 188) that interest in ancient calendars is a necessary part of being "interested in the history of the human race". * Would You Consider Purchasing a Rare Research Book for RSR: [See kgov.com/wish-list for the latest status.] Over at Amazon.com, to further our investigation of one of Bob Enyart's favorite topics, the 360 day year, we've created a KGOV Research Amazon Wish List. We hope to procure an important and rare research book, The Cultic Calendars of the Ancient Near East. The text of this book is not available online, and there is a used copy of the book currently available, as of January 2016, that is $600 less expensive than the other copies also for sale. So if you're considering helping RSR continue to press forward on this significant topic, then please consider purchasing that book by clicking on our Wish List link just above. And for shipping, you can use the address at the Wish List. Thanks so very much for considering this! -Bob & Fred * Other RSR 360 Shows and Related Links: - The 360 Day Year on RSR (this show) and then Part 2 of today's program (broadcast in 2016 but not again in 2019) - Astronomer Danny Faulkner on the 360-Day Year with Bob Enyart - Danny's CRSQ paper rejecting the widespread belief among many creationists (including RSR, Henry Morris, Walt Brown, etc.) that God originally created the Earth with a 360-day year and 30-day months - Danny's paper rebutted in CRSQ by Enyart - How the Moon's Orbit Changed from 30 to 29.5 Days by a professor of astronautics at the U.S. Air Force Academy - On the origin of the world's first-known number system (a hybrid decimal/base 60 system)- 24 Hours in a Day -- How Ancient is the 24-hour Measurement? - Seven Days in a Week -- How Ancient is the 7-day Week?- 30 Days in a Month -- How Ancient is the 30-Day Month? - RSR's 360 Day Year show on YouTube - rsr.org/predictions#lunar-libration - The Genius of Ancient Man - 360dayyear.com - rsr.org/300 - rsr.org/3* What Year Is It On These Calendars? As of September 20, 2020, using these calendars, the year is: - 6770 Assyrian - 6024 Ussher - 5781 Hebrew - 5134 Mayan (3114 B.C.) - 4719 Chinese * Lunar Calendar At All Costs: Ancient man had more than sufficient knowledge to know that the year was more than 360 days and that the lunar month was less than 30. Yet his allegiance to a year of twelve 30-day months was intense. Of course, widely, great significance was placed on lunar-based religious feasts, yet these could have been observed within a solar calendar context (for example, the seventh month's New Moon). For a lunar calendar, like a 360-day calendar, unless corrected, would cause the seasons to migrate from winter to fall, and so on to spring. So while a lunar calendar readily supported the "New Moon" and other such religious festivals, and could help the especially astute person anticipate the strength of the tides (as Seneca reported in about 60 A.D.), a solar calendar would better enable mankind to accomplish pretty much everything else. Enormous benefits in implementation and planning in the areas of agriculture, hunting, fishing, civil administration, military planning, commercial agreements, political reigns, and in religious observations, would result from using a solar calendar. (For example, the annual rainy season coinciding with the melting of snow in the Ethiopian highlands led to Egypt's extraordinarily significant recurring flooding of the Nile.) In comparison with all that, the benefit from a lunar or 360-day calendar was minimal. Yet the ancient world adhered to their lunar and 360-day calendars. For millennia. Their loyalty speaks volumes. And if a man is to be a student of history he should listen to their voice. * Minor Note from Assyro-Babylonian Mythology: A text from the Neo-Assyrian Period describes a battle wherein Marduk defeats the Eshumesha gods and takes 360 of them as prisoners of war. Today's Resource: Real Science Radio 2018   Welcome to Real Science Radio: Co-hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams talk about science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for the creator God including from biology, genetics, geology, history, paleontology, archaeology, astronomy, philosophy, cosmology, math, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) We get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott. We easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne. We're the home of the popular List Shows! And we interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything. This audio disk features all of the Real Science Radio episodes from 2018.

Real Science Radio
*The 360-Day Year on Real Science Radio

Real Science Radio

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 3, 2021


*Today we present the return of a classic show. * Did the whole world once use a 360-day calendar? If so, why? From our archives, RSR hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams look at the Mayans, Egyptians, Aztecs, Indians, Sumerians, Babylonians, Greeks, Romans, Chinese, and the Hebrew Bible to answer the first question: Yes, ancient civilizations used a 360-day calendar. To answer the question why, one must keep in mind the sophistication of ancient astronomers. Nasa reports that in 650 B.C., "Mayan astronomers [made] detailed observations of Venus, leading to a highly accurate calendar." And the Encyclopedia of Time says of the Aztecs that, "they carried on and further developed calendrical traditions that had their roots some 2,000 years before their own time." Real Science Radio investigates the reason why the ancient world used a 360-day calendar and discusses a mechanism for speeding up the rotation of the Earth that in historical times could add 5.24 days to the year. See more at 360dayyear.com. * RSR on YouTube: You're invited to check out RSR's 360-day year program turned into this important YouTube video: * The Calendar is one of the Greatest Monuments of a Culture: Along with language, the calendar is one of the greatest monuments of a culture. Ranke, as quoted by Norman Lockyer (The Origin of the Year, 1982, Nature, p. 487) wrote, "The calendar may be considered the noblest relic of the most ancient times which has influenced the world." And in 1903 Emmeline Plunket judged (Calendars and Constellations of the Ancient World, 1903, p. 188) that interest in ancient calendars is a necessary part of being "interested in the history of the human race". * Would You Consider Purchasing a Rare Research Book for RSR: [See kgov.com/wish-list for the latest status.] Over at Amazon.com, to further our investigation of one of Bob Enyart's favorite topics, the 360 day year, we've created a KGOV Research Amazon Wish List. We hope to procure an important and rare research book, The Cultic Calendars of the Ancient Near East. The text of this book is not available online, and there is a used copy of the book currently available, as of January 2016, that is $600 less expensive than the other copies also for sale. So if you're considering helping RSR continue to press forward on this significant topic, then please consider purchasing that book by clicking on our Wish List link just above. And for shipping, you can use the address at the Wish List. Thanks so very much for considering this! -Bob & Fred * Other RSR 360 Shows and Related Links: - The 360 Day Year on RSR (this show) and then Part 2 of today's program (broadcast in 2016 but not again in 2019) - Astronomer Danny Faulkner on the 360-Day Year with Bob Enyart - Danny's CRSQ paper rejecting the widespread belief among many creationists (including RSR, Henry Morris, Walt Brown, etc.) that God originally created the Earth with a 360-day year and 30-day months - Danny's paper rebutted in CRSQ by Enyart - How the Moon's Orbit Changed from 30 to 29.5 Days by a professor of astronautics at the U.S. Air Force Academy - On the origin of the world's first-known number system (a hybrid decimal/base 60 system)- 24 Hours in a Day -- How Ancient is the 24-hour Measurement? - Seven Days in a Week -- How Ancient is the 7-day Week?- 30 Days in a Month -- How Ancient is the 30-Day Month? - RSR's 360 Day Year show on YouTube - rsr.org/predictions#lunar-libration - The Genius of Ancient Man - 360dayyear.com - rsr.org/300 - rsr.org/3* What Year Is It On These Calendars? As of September 20, 2020, using these calendars, the year is: - 6770 Assyrian - 6024 Ussher - 5781 Hebrew - 5134 Mayan (3114 B.C.) - 4719 Chinese * Lunar Calendar At All Costs: Ancient man had more than sufficient knowledge to know that the year was more than 360 days and that the lunar month was less than 30. Yet his allegiance to a year of twelve 30-day months was intense. Of course, widely, great significance was placed on lunar-based religious feasts, yet these could have been observed within a solar calendar context (for example, the seventh month's New Moon). For a lunar calendar, like a 360-day calendar, unless corrected, would cause the seasons to migrate from winter to fall, and so on to spring. So while a lunar calendar readily supported the "New Moon" and other such religious festivals, and could help the especially astute person anticipate the strength of the tides (as Seneca reported in about 60 A.D.), a solar calendar would better enable mankind to accomplish pretty much everything else. Enormous benefits in implementation and planning in the areas of agriculture, hunting, fishing, civil administration, military planning, commercial agreements, political reigns, and in religious observations, would result from using a solar calendar. (For example, the annual rainy season coinciding with the melting of snow in the Ethiopian highlands led to Egypt's extraordinarily significant recurring flooding of the Nile.) In comparison with all that, the benefit from a lunar or 360-day calendar was minimal. Yet the ancient world adhered to their lunar and 360-day calendars. For millennia. Their loyalty speaks volumes. And if a man is to be a student of history he should listen to their voice. * Minor Note from Assyro-Babylonian Mythology: A text from the Neo-Assyrian Period describes a battle wherein Marduk defeats the Eshumesha gods and takes 360 of them as prisoners of war. Today's Resource: Real Science Radio 2018   Welcome to Real Science Radio: Co-hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams talk about science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for the creator God including from biology, genetics, geology, history, paleontology, archaeology, astronomy, philosophy, cosmology, math, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) We get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott. We easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne. We're the home of the popular List Shows! And we interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything. This audio disk features all of the Real Science Radio episodes from 2018.

Two for Tea with Iona Italia and Helen Pluckrose
96 - Jerry Coyne - Why Evolution is True [Public Limited Version]

Two for Tea with Iona Italia and Helen Pluckrose

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 19, 2021 25:22


Jerry's book Why Evolution Is True (2010) can be found here: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/300564/why-evolution-is-true-by-jerry-a-coyne/ Faith vs Fact: Why Science and Religion Are Incompatible (2016) can be found here: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/312382/faith-versus-fact-by-jerry-a-coyne/9780143108269/ Speciation (2004) by Jerry Coyne and H. Allen Orr can be found here: https://global.oup.com/academic/product/speciation-9780878930890?cc=gb&lang=en& Jerry's blog: https://whyevolutionistrue.com/ Follow Jerry on Twitter @Evolutionistrue Further References Steven Pinker, Enlightenment Now (2018); The Better Angels of Our Nature: Why Violence Has Declined (2011) Timestamps 3:30 Why Jerry wrote Why Evolution Is True 5:45 Public misperceptions of evolution 8:52 Evolution as a tinkerer: the example of hernias 11:08 Turtles, rhinos and tradeoffs 14:38 How mutation works 16:33 How speciation works (with an excerpt from Why Evolution Is True) 23:46 What people (including Darwin) misunderstand about speciation 28:38 Faith vs. Fact: why evolutionary biology has become the main political battleground of religion vs. science 33:42 A creationist road trip. 36:36 Scientists allying with religious groups. The work of the Templeton Foundation. 42:08 Belief in belief. 46:36 The biggest threats to rationality other than religion. 47:10 The argument from evil; rejection of vaccines 49:59 A reading from Evolution Is True

Bob Enyart Live
thefauci, the neurologist, and the gvt agent at dbc

Bob Enyart Live

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 23, 2021


Baptism Debate: DBC's Will Duffy discusses baptism live on YouTube 6 p.m. M.T. tomorrow, Thursday, June 24th! A government official stood at the door of Denver Bible Church reading our 95 Theses that we posted to the Jefferson County Health Department. Consider first though that (not the Holy See but) the Seedy See claims the covid kills healthy children but one doc challenges them: "Name one! You liars. Name one healthy child who died after contracting the coronavirus!" Or, something like that. And speaking of threats, according to the University of Florida's Mass Spectrometry lab, a child's mask becomes a petri dish of dangerous pathogens including the "quite dangerous" streptococcus pneumoniae, mycobacterium tuberculosis, staphylococcus aureus, neisseria meningitidis which "causes meningitis and life threatening sepsis", and staphylococcus pyogenes serotype M3 Strep. Then Bob Enyart airs audio from a neurologist on Fox News basically agreeing with our May 8, 2020 list of 25 Ways the Shutdown Kills People, when he said, "Lockdowns caused far and away more suffering and death than covid ever possibly could have." Bob also discusses the coming lawsuits over the US-funded gain-of-function covid pandemic seed money from the reckless fauci nih making the coronavirus more transmissible and lethal. And finally, we get to the pig. While reading our 95 Theses, a couple of them quote the fauci, who you'll hear snorting and grunting giving people his blessing to use anonymous sex apps while the rest of the nation and much of the world is on lockdown. Pig.   Today's Resource: Real Science Radio 2020Welcome to Real Science Radio: Co-hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams talk about science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for the creator God including from biology, genetics, geology, history, paleontology, archaeology, astronomy, philosophy, cosmology, math, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) We get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott. We easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne. The RSR Archive contains our popular List Shows! And we interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything. Get all of our 2020 Real Science Radio shows on two mp3 disks!

Cotto/Gottfried
Paul Gottfried and Jerry Coyne on the regressive left and why it is bad for America

Cotto/Gottfried

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 14, 2021 35:23


Originally published on November 18, 2018. Do you want to understand the world around you, and maybe even yourself, a bit better than you do now? Online Great Books may be just what you are looking for. When you sign up for a course there by following this link (https://onlinegreatbooks.com/cottogottfried), 'Cotto/Gottfried' gets $45. Knowledge is power! Like this episode? Donations much appreciated -- no worries about size; it's the thought that counts. Many thanks! https://www.paypal.com/paypalme2/CottoGottfried

The Eric Norcross Podcast
53. Quarks Confinement, Proton Decay, and The Standard Model - with ROBERT OERTER

The Eric Norcross Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 10, 2021 52:36


Robert Oerter is a professor in the Physics department at George Mason University. In this episode, Robert answers some of Eric's questions about Physics, The Standard Model, and the de-mystification of the mechanics and politics that come with being a scientist. Intact Discourse: Roberts book: THE THEORY OF ALMOST EVERYTHING From Penguin/Random House Robert's essay, "Does Life on Earth Violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics?" Paper by Richard Dawkins and Jerry Coyne, "One Side Can Be Wrong" YouTube video, "What Is a Proton? - A Short Answer" YouTube video, "All Particle Physics explained intuitively in under 20 min" -- About this podcast: Eric Norcross is the creator and host of The Eric Norcross Podcast. He is a filmmaker, writer, and mixed-media artist with an interest in community building, education, and creative careers. If you're interested in bringing your story to the podcast, please contact Eric via his website (link below). Please contribute to my PATREON Eric's official website Reach out, ask questions, and let's create! Reach out direct. Are you looking to Sponsor this podcast? Reach out direct. Copyright © 2021 Eric Norcross - All Rights Reserved --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/eric-norcross/support

Intelligent Design the Future
William Dembski on the Gilmore & Glahn Show, Pt. 3

Intelligent Design the Future

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 30, 2021 18:05


On this ID the Future from the vault, William Dembski continues his conversation on the Gilmore & Glahn radio show. Host John Gilmore and Dembski, a philosopher, mathematician, and ID pioneer, cover a wide range of topics, including the state of the intelligent design movement, where the science is headed, Dembski’s controversial ID talk at the University of Chicago, and the growing number of prominent scientists and scholars who may or may not accept intelligent design but who insist that Darwinian evolution is a failed theory. The conversation occurred in 2015, so an exit question we can ask ourselves is, what remains the same about the evolution/design debate, and what has changed in the intervening six years? Source

Intelligent Design the Future
William Dembski on the Gilmore & Glahn Show, Pt. 1

Intelligent Design the Future

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 16, 2021 14:41


On this ID the Future from the vault, philosopher and mathematician William Dembski is on the Gilmore & Glahn Show, where he discusses with John Gilmore the theory of, and science behind, his book Being as Communion: A Metaphysics of Information. Dembski also discusses the sparks that flew when he spoke at a seminar at the University of Chicago, and what he views as the greatest weakness of Darwinian evolution. Source

Intelligent Design the Future
Rhetorical Advice for Opponents of Intelligent Design

Intelligent Design the Future

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2021 12:55


On this ID the Future author and blogger Tom Gilson offers advice to ID opponents on how to improve their persuasive strategy. Getting ID theory right instead of criticizing a made-up straw man would be a good start, he says. He then offers several additional suggestions, all of which have the incidental effect of highlighting the many suspect rhetorical strategies commonly employed by prominent opponents of ID. Gilson is the author of six books on faith, culture, and philosophy, and has a background in organizational strategy and organizational psychology. He is a blogger, a senior editor at The Stream, and the sound editor of this podcast. Source

Intelligent Design the Future
Casey Luskin Returns, Teases a New Book, Celebrates ID 3.0

Intelligent Design the Future

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2021 25:04


On today’s ID the Future, Rob Crowther continues his conversation with Casey Luskin, the intelligent design proponent who previously worked for Discovery Institute’s Center for Science and Culture and has now returned. As Luskin explains, he left to pursue a PhD in geology at the University of Johannesburg in South Africa. The two discuss the wild conspiracy theories circulated by opponents of intelligent design when Luskin stepped away from Discovery Institute five years ago. Luskin also tells about an upcoming book he’s been working on with William Dembski, another intelligent design proponent who stepped away from day-to-day ID work and is now putting a foot back in the ID waters. Also on tap in today’s conversation, Luskin and Dembski’s upcoming appearance Read More › Source

Intelligent Design the Future
Michael Behe’s New Book Dispels Malaria Evolution Fog

Intelligent Design the Future

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 6, 2021 18:47


Today’s ID the Future provides another peek at A Mousetrap for Darwin: Michael J. Behe Answers His Critics. Here Behe and host Eric Anderson discuss the new book’s section on malaria evolution. Evolutionists say malaria’s ability to evolve resistance to the antimalarial drug chloroquine is powerful evidence of unguided microbe-to-man evolution. Behe discusses how this evolutionary innovation required two coordinated mutations and lies at the outside edge of what blind evolution can manage. But many innovations in the history of life require three or more coordinated mutations, which Behe argues is so improbable as to lie beyond the reach of blind evolution. If so, this would discredit evolutionary theory. Drawing from his new book, Behe discusses various attempts to discredit Read More › Source

Intelligent Design the Future
Michael Behe’s Mousetrap on the Edge

Intelligent Design the Future

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 24, 2020 20:22


On this ID the Future Lehigh University biologist Michael Behe dives deeper into A Mousetrap for Darwin. Behe and host Eric Anderson pivot to the new book’s section defending Behe’s earlier work, The Edge of Evolution. In that earlier book, Behe reviewed hard data from evolution studies of malaria parasites, HIV, and E. coli, showed that blind evolutionary processes face severe limits as to what they can build, and argued that intelligent design was required for the origin of life’s great diversity. In this new conversation Behe touches on some of the attempts to refute that argument and suggests why those refutations fail. For a more in-depth look at his defense of The Edge of Evolution, get your copy of Read More › Source

Sped up Rationally Speaking
Rationally Speaking #16 - Deferring to Experts

Sped up Rationally Speaking

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2020 34:16


At a talk he gave at TAM 8, Massimo argued that non-experts in a field aren't qualified to reject an expert consensus, such as that on anthropogenic climate change. Most recently, he has taken Jerry Coyne to task for making a philosophical argument without having the necessary expertise. This raises a number of questions: Are there fields that have no experts, or that have pretend experts? If there is a lot of disagreement among experts on a topic, should we take any individual expert's opinion less seriously? How much consensus is required before a non-expert should say, "OK, looks like this question really is settled"? Perhaps noted expert George Carlin had it right when he said: "I have as much authority as the pope, I just don't have as many people who believe it." Sped up the speakers by [1.049792531120332, 1.0]

The God or Not Podcast
God or Not - Ep 017: Scott Goes to Church

The God or Not Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 14, 2020 137:55


Don't let the title mislead you. While it's true that Scott did go to church, it's also true that Scott is still an atheist. Scott was invited by Common Ground United Methodist Church (https://www.commongroundumc.org/) to speak to their congregation during a Sunday morning sermon series on the intersection of science and faith. Scott has always had a love for science and it was because of this, his extensive knowledge on the subject, and his ability to be fair, that he was asked to speak about the beginning of the universe. Jamie and Scott review his talk, the pastors talk immediately after, and discuss some of the questions that were presented to him by the congregants during the question and answer portion of the service. In "Let's Go to the Instant Replay", Jamie talks about a surprise re-think he has had on a very contentious subject. As further study Jamie recommends "From God To Us: How We Got Our Bible" by Norman Geisler, and Scott recommends "Faith vs. Fact: Why Science and Religion Are Incompatible" by Jerry Coyne. Contact us with comments and questions: email@GodOrNotPodcast.com Here are the slides Scott used in his talk.

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Jerry A. Coyne is a Professor in the Department of Ecology and Evolution at the University of Chicago. He received a B.S. in Biology from the College of William and Mary and a Ph.D. in evolutionary biology at Harvard University. After a postdoctoral fellowship at The University of California at Davis, he took his first academic position as assistant professor in the Department of Zoology at The University of Maryland. In 1996 he joined the faculty of The University of Chicago and has been there ever since. Coyne’s work has been largely concerned with the genetics of species differences, aimed at understanding the evolutionary processes that produce new species. He has written 115 scientific papers and more than 130 popular articles, book reviews, and columns, as well as a scholarly book about his research area—Speciation, co-authored with H. Allen Orr—and a trade book about the evidence for evolution—Why Evolution is True, which was a New York Times bestseller. His most recent book is Faith vs. Fact: Why Science and Religion are Incompatible. Coyne is a contributor The New York Times, The New Republic, The Times Literary Supplement, The Guardian, The Nation, USA Today, and other popular periodicals.Many people are confused about science—about what it is, how it is practiced, and why it is the most powerful method for understanding ourselves and the universe that our species has ever devised. In Faith vs. Fact, Coyne has written a wonderful primer on what it means to think scientifically, showing that the honest doubts of science are better—and more noble—than the false certainties of religion. This is a profound and lovely book. It should be required reading at every college on earth.—Sam Harris, author of The End of Faith, The Moral Landscape, and Waking Up The distinguished geneticist Jerry Coyne trains his formidable intellectual firepower on religious faith, and it’s hard to see how any reasonable person can resist the conclusions of his superbly argued book. Though religion will live on in the minds of the unlettered, in educated circles faith is entering its death throes. Symptomatic of its terminal desperation are the ‘apophatic’ pretensions of ‘sophisticated theologians,’ for whose empty obscurantism Coyne reserves his most devastating sallies. Read this book and recommend it to two friends.—Richard Dawkins, author of The God Delusion The truth is not always halfway between two extremes: some propositions are flat wrong. In this timely and important book, Jerry Coyne expertly exposes the incoherence of the increasingly popular belief that you can have it both ways: that God (or something God-ish, God-like, or God-oid) sort-of exists; that miracles kind-of happen; and that the truthiness of dogma is somewhat-a-little-bit-more-or-less-who’s-to-say-it-isn’t like the truths of science and reason.—Steven Pinker, Johnstone Family Professor of Psychology, Harvard University; author of The Better Angels of Our Nature

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#2 - Why Don't I Criticize Israel?

Making Sense with Sam Harris - Subscriber Content

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 27, 2014 16:20


AUDIO TRANSCRIPT [Note: This is a verbatim transcript of a spoken podcast. However, I have added notes like this one to clarify controversial points.—SH] I was going to do a podcast on a series of questions, but I got so many questions on the same topic that I think I’m just going to do a single response here, and we’ll do an #AskMeAnything podcast next time. The question I’ve now received in many forms goes something like this: Why is it that you never criticize Israel? Why is it that you never criticize Judaism? Why is it that you always take the side of the Israelis over that of the Palestinians? Now, this is an incredibly boring and depressing question for a variety of reasons. The first, is that I have criticized both Israel and Judaism. What seems to have upset many people is that I’ve kept some sense of proportion. There are something like 15 million Jews on earth at this moment; there are a hundred times as many Muslims. I’ve debated rabbis who, when I have assumed that they believe in a God that can hear our prayers, they stop me mid-sentence and say, “Why would you think that I believe in a God who can hear prayers?” So there are rabbis—conservative rabbis—who believe in a God so elastic as to exclude every concrete claim about Him—and therefore, nearly every concrete demand upon human behavior. And there are millions of Jews, literally millions among the few million who exist, for whom Judaism is very important, and yet they are atheists. They don’t believe in God at all. This is actually a position you can hold in Judaism, but it’s a total non sequitur in Islam or Christianity. So, when we’re talking about the consequences of irrational beliefs based on scripture, the Jews are the least of the least offenders. But I have said many critical things about Judaism. Let me remind you that parts of Hebrew Bible—books like Leviticus and Exodus and Deuteronomy—are the most repellent, the most sickeningly unethical documents to be found in any religion. They’re worse than the Koran. They’re worse than any part of the New Testament. But the truth is, most Jews recognize this and don’t take these texts seriously. It’s simply a fact that most Jews and most Israelis are not guided by scripture—and that’s a very good thing. Of course, there are some who are. There are religious extremists among Jews. Now, I consider these people to be truly dangerous, and their religious beliefs are as divisive and as unwarranted as the beliefs of devout Muslims. But there are far fewer such people. For those of you who worry that I never say anything critical about Israel: My position on Israel is somewhat paradoxical. There are questions about which I’m genuinely undecided. And there’s something in my position, I think, to offend everyone. So, acknowledging how reckless it is to say anything on this topic, I’m nevertheless going to think out loud about it for a few minutes. I don’t think Israel should exist as a Jewish state. I think it is obscene, irrational and unjustifiable to have a state organized around a religion. So I don’t celebrate the idea that there’s a Jewish homeland in the Middle East. I certainly don’t support any Jewish claims to real estate based on the Bible. [Note: Read this paragraph again.] Though I just said that I don’t think Israel should exist as a Jewish state, the justification for such a state is rather easy to find. We need look no further than the fact that the rest of the world has shown itself eager to murder the Jews at almost every opportunity. So, if there were going to be a state organized around protecting members of a single religion, it certainly should be a Jewish state. Now, friends of Israel might consider this a rather tepid defense, but it’s the strongest one I’ve got. I think the idea of a religious state is ultimately untenable. [Note: It is worth observing, however, that Israel isn’t “Jewish” in the sense that Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are “Muslim.” As my friend Jerry Coyne points out, Israel is actually less religious than the U.S., and it guarantees freedom of religion to its citizens. Israel is not a theocracy, and one could easily argue that its Jewish identity is more cultural than religious. However, if we ask why the Jews wouldn’t move to British Columbia if offered a home there, we can see the role that religion still plays in their thinking.] Needless to say, in defending its territory as a Jewish state, the Israeli government and Israelis themselves have had to do terrible things. They have, as they are now, fought wars against the Palestinians that have caused massive losses of innocent life. More civilians have been killed in Gaza in the last few weeks than militants. That’s not a surprise because Gaza is one of the most densely populated places on Earth. Occupying it, fighting wars in it, is guaranteed to get women and children and other noncombatants killed. And there’s probably little question over the course of fighting multiple wars that the Israelis have done things that amount to war crimes. They have been brutalized by this process—that is, made brutal by it. But that is largely the due to the character of their enemies. [Note: I was not giving Israel a pass to commit war crimes. I was making a point about the realities of living under the continuous threat of terrorism and of fighting multiple wars in a confined space.] Whatever terrible things the Israelis have done, it is also true to say that they have used more restraint in their fighting against the Palestinians than we—the Americans, or Western Europeans—have used in any of our wars. They have endured more worldwide public scrutiny than any other society has ever had to while defending itself against aggressors. The Israelis simply are held to a different standard. And the condemnation leveled at them by the rest of the world is completely out of proportion to what they have actually done. [Note: I was not saying that because they are more careful than we have been at our most careless, the Israelis are above criticism. War crimes are war crimes.] It is clear that Israel is losing the PR war and has been for years now. One of the most galling things for outside observers about the current war in Gaza is the disproportionate loss of life on the Palestinian side. This doesn’t make a lot of moral sense. Israel built bomb shelters to protect its citizens. The Palestinians built tunnels through which they could carry out terror attacks and kidnap Israelis. Should Israel be blamed for successfully protecting its population in a defensive war? I don’t think so. [Note: I was not suggesting that the deaths of Palestinian noncombatants are anything less than tragic. But if retaliating against Hamas is bound to get innocents killed, and the Israelis manage to protect their own civilians in the meantime, the loss of innocent life on the Palestinian side is guaranteed to be disproportionate.] But there is no way to look at the images coming out of Gaza—especially of infants and toddlers riddled by shrapnel—and think that this is anything other than a monstrous evil. Insofar as the Israelis are the agents of this evil, it seems impossible to support them. And there is no question that the Palestinians have suffered terribly for decades under the occupation. This is where most critics of Israel appear to be stuck. They see these images, and they blame Israel for killing and maiming babies. They see the occupation, and they blame Israel for making Gaza a prison camp. I would argue that this is a kind of moral illusion, borne of a failure to look at the actual causes of this conflict, as well as of a failure to understand the intentions of the people on either side of it. [Note: I was not saying that the horror of slain children is a moral illusion; nor was I minimizing the suffering of the Palestinians under the occupation. I was claiming that Israel is not primarily to blame for all this suffering.] The truth is that there is an obvious, undeniable, and hugely consequential moral difference between Israel and her enemies. The Israelis are surrounded by people who have explicitly genocidal intentions towards them. The charter of Hamas is explicitly genocidal. It looks forward to a time, based on Koranic prophesy, when the earth itself will cry out for Jewish blood, where the trees and the stones will say “O Muslim, there’s a Jew hiding behind me. Come and kill him.” This is a political document. We are talking about a government that was voted into power by a majority of Palestinians. [Note: Yes, I know that not every Palestinian supports Hamas, but enough do to have brought them to power. Hamas is not a fringe group.] The discourse in the Muslim world about Jews is utterly shocking. Not only is there Holocaust denial—there’s Holocaust denial that then asserts that we will do it for real if given the chance. The only thing more obnoxious than denying the Holocaust is to say that it should have happened; it didn’t happen, but if we get the chance, we will accomplish it. There are children’s shows in the Palestinian territories and elsewhere that teach five-year-olds about the glories of martyrdom and about the necessity of killing Jews. And this gets to the heart of the moral difference between Israel and her enemies. And this is something I discussed in The End of Faith. To see this moral difference, you have to ask what each side would do if they had the power to do it. What would the Jews do to the Palestinians if they could do anything they wanted? Well, we know the answer to that question, because they can do more or less anything they want. The Israeli army could kill everyone in Gaza tomorrow. So what does that mean? Well, it means that, when they drop a bomb on a beach and kill four Palestinian children, as happened last week, this is almost certainly an accident. They’re not targeting children. They could target as many children as they want. Every time a Palestinian child dies, Israel edges ever closer to becoming an international pariah. So the Israelis take great pains not to kill children and other noncombatants. [Note: The word “so” in the previous sentence was regrettable and misleading. I didn’t mean to suggest that safeguarding its reputation abroad would be the only (or even primary) reason for Israel to avoid killing children. However, the point stands: Even if you want to attribute the basest motives to Israel, it is clearly in her self-interest not to kill Palestinian children.] Now, is it possible that some Israeli soldiers go berserk under pressure and wind up shooting into crowds of rock-throwing children? Of course. You will always find some soldiers acting this way in the middle of a war. But we know that this isn’t the general intent of Israel. We know the Israelis do not want to kill non-combatants, because they could kill as many as they want, and they’re not doing it. What do we know of the Palestinians? What would the Palestinians do to the Jews in Israel if the power imbalance were reversed? Well, they have told us what they would do. For some reason, Israel’s critics just don’t want to believe the worst about a group like Hamas, even when it declares the worst of itself. We’ve already had a Holocaust and several other genocides in the 20th century. People are capable of committing genocide. When they tell us they intend to commit genocide, we should listen. There is every reason to believe that the Palestinians would kill all the Jews in Israel if they could. Would every Palestinian support genocide? Of course not. But vast numbers of them—and of Muslims throughout the world—would. Needless to say, the Palestinians in general, not just Hamas, have a history of targeting innocent noncombatants in the most shocking ways possible. They’ve blown themselves up on buses and in restaurants. They’ve massacred teenagers. They’ve murdered Olympic athletes. They now shoot rockets indiscriminately into civilian areas. And again, the charter of their government in Gaza explicitly tells us that they want to annihilate the Jews—not just in Israel but everywhere. [Note: Again, I realize that not all Palestinians support Hamas. Nor am I discounting the degree to which the occupation, along with collateral damage suffered in war, has fueled Palestinian rage. But Palestinian terrorism (and Muslim anti-Semitism) is what has made peaceful coexistence thus far impossible.] The truth is that everything you need to know about the moral imbalance between Israel and her enemies can be understood on the topic of human shields. Who uses human shields? Well, Hamas certainly does. They shoot their rockets from residential neighborhoods, from beside schools, and hospitals, and mosques. Muslims in other recent conflicts, in Iraq and elsewhere, have also used human shields. They have laid their rifles on the shoulders of their own children and shot from behind their bodies. Consider the moral difference between using human shields and being deterred by them. That is the difference we’re talking about. The Israelis and other Western powers are deterred, however imperfectly, by the Muslim use of human shields in these conflicts, as we should be. It is morally abhorrent to kill noncombatants if you can avoid it. It’s certainly abhorrent to shoot through the bodies of children to get at your adversary. But take a moment to reflect on how contemptible this behavior is. And understand how cynical it is. The Muslims are acting on the assumption—the knowledge, in fact—that the infidels with whom they fight, the very people whom their religion does nothing but vilify, will be deterred by their use of Muslim human shields. They consider the Jews the spawn of apes and pigs—and yet they rely on the fact that they don’t want to kill Muslim noncombatants. [Note: The term “Muslims” in this paragraph means “Muslim combatants” of the sort that Western forces have encountered in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere. The term “jihadists” would have been too narrow, but I was not suggesting that all Muslims support the use of human shields or are anti-Semitic, at war with the West, etc.] Now imagine reversing the roles here. Imagine how fatuous—indeed comical it would be—for the Israelis to attempt to use human shields to deter the Palestinians. Some claim that they have already done this. There are reports that Israeli soldiers have occasionally put Palestinian civilians in front of them as they’ve advanced into dangerous areas. That’s not the use of human shields we’re talking about. It’s egregious behavior. No doubt it constitutes a war crime. But Imagine the Israelis holding up their own women and children as human shields. Of course, that would be ridiculous. The Palestinians are trying to kill everyone. Killing women and children is part of the plan. Reversing the roles here produces a grotesque Monty Python skit. If you’re going to talk about the conflict in the Middle East, you have to acknowledge this difference. I don’t think there’s any ethical disparity to be found anywhere that is more shocking or consequential than this. And the truth is, this isn’t even the worst that jihadists do. Hamas is practically a moderate organization, compared to other jihadist groups. There are Muslims who have blown themselves up in crowds of children—again, Muslim children—just to get at the American soldiers who were handing out candy to them. They have committed suicide bombings, only to send another bomber to the hospital to await the casualities—where they then blow up all the injured along with the doctors and nurses trying to save their lives. Every day that you could read about an Israeli rocket gone astray or Israeli soldiers beating up an innocent teenager, you could have read about ISIS in Iraq crucifying people on the side of the road, Christians and Muslims. Where is the outrage in the Muslim world and on the Left over these crimes? Where are the demonstrations, 10,000 or 100,000 deep, in the capitals of Europe against ISIS? If Israel kills a dozen Palestinians by accident, the entire Muslim world is inflamed. God forbid you burn a Koran, or write a novel vaguely critical of the faith. And yet Muslims can destroy their own societies—and seek to destroy the West—and you don’t hear a peep. [Note: Of course, I’m aware that many Muslims condemn groups like ISIS. My point is that we don’t see massive protests against global jihadism—even though it targets Muslims more than anyone else—and we do see such protests over things like the Danish cartoons.] So, it seems to me, that you have to side with Israel here. You have one side which if it really could accomplish its aims would simply live peacefully with its neighbors, and you have another side which is seeking to implement a seventh century theocracy in the Holy Land. There’s no peace to be found between those incompatible ideas. That doesn’t mean you can’t condemn specific actions on the part of the Israelis. And, of course, acknowledging the moral disparity between Israel and her enemies doesn’t give us any solution to the problem of Israel’s existence in the Middle East. [Note: I was not suggesting that Israel’s actions are above criticism or that their recent incursion into Gaza was necessarily justified. Nor was I saying that the status quo, wherein the Palestinians remain stateless, should be maintained. And I certainly wasn’t expressing support for the building of settlements on contested land (as I made clear below). By “siding with Israel,” I am simply recognizing that they are not the primary aggressors in this conflict. They are, rather, responding to aggression—and at a terrible cost.] Again, granted, there’s some percentage of Jews who are animated by their own religious hysteria and their own prophesies. Some are awaiting the Messiah on contested land. Yes, these people are willing to sacrifice the blood of their own children for the glory of God. But, for the most part, they are not representative of the current state of Judaism or the actions of the Israeli government. And it is how Israel deals with these people—their own religious lunatics—that will determine whether they can truly hold the moral high ground. And Israel can do a lot more than it has to disempower them. It can cease to subsidize the delusions of the Ultra-Orthodox, and it can stop building settlements on contested land. [Note: Read that again. And, yes, I understand that not all settlers are Ultra-Orthodox.] These incompatible religious attachments to this land have made it impossible for Muslims and Jews to negotiate like rational human beings, and they have made it impossible for them to live in peace. But the onus is still more on the side of the Muslims here. Even on their worst day, the Israelis act with greater care and compassion and self-criticism than Muslim combatants have anywhere, ever. And again, you have to ask yourself, what do these groups want? What would they accomplish if they could accomplish anything? What would the Israelis do if they could do what they want? They would live in peace with their neighbors, if they had neighbors who would live in peace with them. They would simply continue to build out their high tech sector and thrive. [Note: Some might argue that they would do more than this—e.g. steal more Palestinian land. But apart from the influence of Jewish extremism (which I condemn), Israel’s continued appropriation of land has more than a little to do with her security concerns. Absent Palestinian terrorism and Muslim anti-Semitism, we could be talking about a “one-state solution,” and the settlements would be moot.] What do groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda and even Hamas want? They want to impose their religious views on the rest of humanity. They want to stifle every freedom that decent, educated, secular people care about. This is not a trivial difference. And yet judging from the level of condemnation that Israel now receives, you would think the difference ran the other way. This kind of confusion puts all of us in danger. This is the great story of our time. For the rest of our lives, and the lives of our children, we are going to be confronted by people who don’t want to live peacefully in a secular, pluralistic world, because they are desperate to get to Paradise, and they are willing to destroy the very possibility of human happiness along the way. The truth is, we are all living in Israel. It’s just that some of us haven’t realized it yet.