Podcasts about Losing Control

Antonia helped build one of the most iconic period brands in the world. In this episode, she takes us inside the real, messy, deeply human journey of launching Thinx: from her pink pajama shame moment at 13 to raising millions, writing her own patent, and co-founding a brand that changed the way we talk about periods.   But that's only the first half of the story.   She opens up about what it actually felt like to raise money, negotiate with strategic partners, and sit in rooms where you slowly lose control of the brand you built. What happens when you and your co-founders don't want the same future? What do you do when the investors are offering the deal of a lifetime? 01:10 – Meet Antonia: From Classical Musician to Brand Builder 04:30 – The Origin of Thinx: A Three-Legged Race & a Bikini Bottom 08:00 – From India to Innovation: Solving Global Period Poverty 11:15 – The Girl Effect: Empowering Girls by Keeping Them in School 14:20 – Designing Smart Underwear: Antimicrobial, Leak-Proof & Chic 17:40 – First Funding: From Music Studio to Kickstarter 21:30 – “Failure to Launch” & Taking the Leap 24:10 – Family & Friends Round + The $25K Investor Who Made $1M 27:50 – When Deals Don't Close: Due Diligence with UK Partner 31:40 – Sri Lanka Email Changes Everything: MAS Becomes Strategic Partner 36:00 – Why the Subway Ads Made People Stop & Stare 38:45 – Educating the Public on “Underwear for Periods” 41:00 – Kimberly-Clark Enters the Picture 43:20 – Losing Control of Product Design After Investment 45:00 – Birth of Her Next Venture: The Shoe Brand Idea 48:15 – $2.1M Kickstarter for Her Shoe Brand in 90 Days 51:00 – Was She Ready to Leave Thinx? 53:10 – The Co-Founder Rift: Different Timelines, Different Visions 56:40 – Lessons in Equity, Contracts & Business Breakups 59:15 – Don't Assume Love = Legal Protection 01:01:30 – Why She Has No Regrets (But Learned the Hard Way)

If you've ever said “I should be doing my spiritual practice” and then immediately felt guilty for not doing it perfectly... this episode is for you! We're talking about the five types of perfectionists (yes, you're probably one of them) and how each one shows up in your rituals and routines with a witchy twist on The Perfectionist's Guide to Losing Control by Katherine Morgan Schafler.Whether you're a messy witch with 12 open tabs or a people-pleasing Parisian perfectionist, you'll walk away knowing how to stop self-sabotaging and start working with your perfectionism. Bonus: there's a full ritual menu + notes waiting for you on Patreon here!This week's sponsor is Libra.fm: Support your local bookstore and this podcast by grabbing your audiobooks through Libro.fm. Now until June 22 Libro.fm is offering BOGO credits: During the sale, members can get two audiobooks from a curated selection for just one audiobook credit. This is a great time to become a Libro.fm member, scoop up a bunch of great audiobooks while supporting your fave bookshop! Click here to shop the sale!But wait-- there's more!!If you're a NEW Libro.fm member you can use the code SWITCH to get three books for the price of one when you sign up-- that means six audiobooks through the BOGO sale. Click here to start a new membership with the SWITCH code! (*Note: code only works on one credit a month plan and past members are not eligible.)If you're looking for some witchy books to listen to: Our audiobook recs can be found here!Join us IRL for Project Mailstorm on July 6th!

June 15, 2025 - "The Fear Of Losing Control!"

In this episode of 'Steps to Trusting', host Erin Michele discusses the common frustration of disrupted plans and how to trust God in challenging circumstances. Through biblical stories of the Israelites in Exodus 14, 15, and 17, Erin highlights the importance of shifting our trust from our circumstances to God. She emphasizes the significance of turning to God with our frustrations and relying on His provision. Key takeaways include the need to refocus on God's presence during tough times, the value of prayer in seeking guidance, and the assurance that God is with us even when our plans don't succeed.I would love to hear from you.  Connect with Erin Michele Smith at www.erinmichele.netInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/stepstotrusting/ 00:00 Welcome to Steps to Trusting00:23 A Story of Changed Plans01:44 Trusting God Over Circumstances02:20 Lessons from the Israelites03:43 The Parting of the Red Sea06:00 Bitter Waters Made Sweet07:17 Water from the Rock09:16 Invitation to Trust in God14:37 A Prayer for Trust15:31 Final Encouragement and Farewell

Some entrepreneurs scale like they're in a racecar with no brakes - fast, reckless, and headed for a wall. We're here to pump the brakes, steer smart, and map out a playbook that keeps growth and stability in the driver's seat.  

“Being willing to let people make mistakes is a bit of a sacrifice because when you choose not to over define the behaviors, people will learn from trial and error.” Autonomy is one of the biggest drivers of motivation. But finding ways to give employees freedom in their jobs can be challenging. Tune in as Ethan and Mike explore this critical topic. This episode originally released back in 2023.  Links:  Episode on the Decision Making Styles Episode on SCARF Text the word “LEADING” to 66866 to be added to Nash Consulting's monthly newsletter. Just practical management skills and tips. And just once a month. Pinky swear.

In this episode, we dive into how AI is transforming filmmaking—from casting docs to visual effects—and why keeping the “human in the loop” is critical to protecting your creative voice. We cover how to use AI tools like ChatGPT and Google Veo without giving up authorship, and where to draw the line between helpful and harmful. If you're navigating the changing landscape of indie film, this is a must-listen.

Quand on doute, on a souvent le réflexe de chercher une nouvelle stratégie entrepreneuriale. Mais parfois, la seule vraie question à se poser, c'est : qu'est-ce que j'aime faire ? Dans cette Minute Marine, je rebondis sur une citation extraite du livre The Perfectionist's Guide to Losing Control de Katherine Morgan Schafler. Je t'explique pourquoi cette question, en apparence perso et gnangnan, peut en réalité devenir un véritable atout business. Et comment, moi, elle m'a aidée à réajuster ma stratégie de communication autour du podcast. (Pour me répondre, envoie-moi un mp sur Linkedin

Roy van den Broek is the founder and CEO of Rentman, a rental business management software platform for event and media production companies. Roy built software for his event equipment rental business in the Netherlands. He had over 100 software customers in Europe before selling his rental equipment company in 2015 to focus on growing his Rentman SaaS company.  Rentman grew slowly and profitably as word of mouth spread in the industry and their product evolved. In 2024, after growing to nearly 100 employees and 200,000 users across 100 countries, Roy raised a $22 million growth equity round from Expedition Capital to derisk the founder's investment and add growth capital to continue expanding.  In this episode, Roy discusses how they managed the painful growth stages as they expanded from one employee to 80 global employees, building a multi-lingual product and business, and why he chose to raise a significant growth equity investment.  Quote from Roy van den Broek, founder and CEO of Rentman “We had a lot of interest in investing in Rentman after COVID, so we ran a quick process. We ended up with 3 term sheets. You have multiple ways to look at these term sheets. You can look at the numbers and the valuation, which is a big part.  “But what's often overlooked is the other terms. The other terms are as important as the valuation because they really determine the way you work together. I think these terms might even be important or more important than the valuation. You got to understand their game and really figure out if you could get some alignment.  “In essence, you are negotiating the amount of autonomy that you have as a founder. That's basically what we prioritized. Like the board seats and who makes certain decisions, what are the decisions that require a majority vote? And I think we were able to get 100% autonomy on our side.“ Links Roy van den Broek on LinkedIn Rentman on LinkedIn Rentman website Expedition Growth Capital website The Practical Founders Podcast Tune into the Practical Founders Podcast for weekly in-depth interviews with founders who have built valuable software companies without big funding. Subscribe to the Practical Founders Podcast using your favorite podcast app or view on our YouTube channel. Get the weekly Practical Founders newsletter and podcast updates at practicalfounders.com.

In this final episode of our 4-part series, I'm joined once again by Caroline Armstrong from Teamworks with Caroline to uncover what every small business owner dreams of - building a business that runs smoothly without you having to be there 24/7. Caroline unpacks the real meaning of operational excellence, how to create a team that delivers your “secret sauce” with consistency, and why most business owners hit a wall without these systems in place. If you're tired of being the bottleneck in your business and want to build a structure that scales, this is a must-listen.

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Does surrendering to God feel like losing control?Angie and Susie dive into James 4:7 to challenge the idea that submission is a sign of weakness. In reality, true strength comes not from gripping tighter—but from letting go. Join them as they uncover how surrendering to God empowers us to stand firm, resist the enemy, and walk boldly in the freedom of His authority.James 4:7 (NIV)“Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.”https://livesteadyon.com/To connect with Susie:https://susiecrosby.com/Facebook: @‌susiecrosbyauthorInstagram: @‌susiecrosbySusie's devotionals, “Lighthearted” and “Just One Word: 90 Devotions to Invite Jesus In” are available on Amazon.https://www.logos.com/https://enduringword.com/https://www.wordhippo.com/https://www.biblegateway.com/https://www.blueletterbible.org/Gerhard Delling, Gerhard Kittel, Geoffrey W. Bromiley, and Gerhard Friedrich, Theological Dictionary of the New Testament (Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans, 1964–), 27.Marvin Richardson Vincent, Word Studies in the New Testament, vol. 1 (New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1887), 756.J. Ronald Blue, “James,” in The Bible Knowledge Commentary: An Exposition of the Scriptures, ed. J. F. Walvoord and R. B. Zuck, vol. 2 (Wheaton, IL: Victor Books, 1985), 830.Peter H. Davids, “James,”.%0a~James+next+shows+us+ "‌") in New Bible Commentary: 21st Century Edition, ed. D. A. Carson et al., 4th ed. (Leicester, England; Downers Grove, IL: Inter-Varsity Press, 1994), 1364.R. Gregg Watson, “James,” in CSB Study Bible: Notes, ed. Edwin A. Blum and Trevin Wax (Nashville, TN: Holman Bible Publishers, 2017), 1970.Theme music:Glimmer by Andy Ellison

THANK YOU to our BPD Besties on Patreon for voting on this topic and joining us behind the scenes during filming! We always have a blast with you.In this episode, Xannie, Jay, André, Georgette and Katja share personal stories, struggles, and insights about the impact of BPD on their ability to maintain a structured life. The Bunch cover both extremes; the difficulties that come from being overly rigid with structure, as well as the struggles to maintain any structure at all.Whether you're battling BPD yourself or supporting someone who is, this episode is packed with relatable experiences and valuable advice that may just change your perspective. Don't miss out on this emotional journey filled with laughter, hard truths, and important takeaways. Check out the shortcut to Lena's intro video to see what Xannie was referencing!Friday we'll be back to share our top tips for maintaining structure. Hit that subscribe button to stay connected!May 21st we'll be back to talk about BPD & Structure. Can't wait until then? Sign up for our "BPD Buddies" or "BPD Besties" tiers on Patreon to get early access to an exclusive extended cut of next week's episode NOW! https://www.patreon.com/thebpdbunch

Thanks for joining us today! Andor is BACK! Michael and I will be looking at and digesting each batch of 3 episodes! This episode is our thoughts on season 2 eps 4-6. Enjoy!Thanks for listening! Be safe. Be courteous. BYE!If you'd like to support the show and be entered to win the monthly giveaways, visit our Patreon at patreon.com/sortastarwarsThanks everyone for your support!*This podcast is a production of Ryit Media and is hosted by Ryan Lehman (@sortastarwars)**To hear other podcasts hosted by Ryan Lehman, search "Ryit Media" on any podcast player or find the links here:Granny Shiftin': THE fast and furious podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/ipk12aZ_Dad Reads Books: https://link.chtbl.com/q_7bYUCzAND NOW Silver Screen and Television Dreams: https://link.chtbl.com/djA5v-LB

In this episode of the Etsy Seller Success podcast, host Dylan talks with Etsy coach Emily Bronaugh about how to hire help the right way. If you're feeling overwhelmed with your shop but nervous about letting go of control, this episode is for you.Emily shares how to figure out what to delegate, where to find the right people, and how to train and manage them. She also explains how to make sure someone's a good fit and how to set up simple systems so your business can grow without the stress.Whether you're hiring your first helper or building a small team, Emily gives real, helpful advice that's easy to understand and use.In this episode, we cover: [00:41] Emily's Background and Journey [02:31] First Steps in Hiring [03:43] Choosing the Right Hiring Platform [09:34] Evaluating Candidates [12:19] Onboarding and Trial Periods [16:09] Managing a Growing Team [21:39] Emily's Services and OfferingsConnect with Emily: 

The CBS Sports College Football writer on his recent piece asking "Where is Cam Rising?", The President thinking about making an executive order around NIL rules, Bill Belichick losing control (?) + more

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Amnesty International is now calling Israel's mass atrocity in Gaza “a live-streamed genocide” due to the way this nightmare is unfolding right in front of us on the screens of our devices around the world, and public support for Israel is plummeting in the United States. Zionists are losing control of the narrative, and they know it. And they are not taking it well. Reading by Tim Foley.

Welcome back to Impact Theory with Tom Bilyeu. In this thought-provoking episode, Tom sits down with Mike Baker—former CIA officer, security expert, and host of the President's Daily Brief podcast—to dissect some of the most pressing issues facing America and the world today. Together, they dive deep into the real threats posed by China, from cyber warfare and TikTok's influence, to intellectual property theft and military ambitions in the South China Sea. Mike shares his insider perspective on just how vulnerable the U.S. population is to manipulation and misinformation, and why America's short-term focus could leave us blindsided by powers playing the long game. The conversation doesn't stop there. Tom and Mike tackle America's mounting debt crisis—why it could be our biggest existential danger—and break down the hard realities of realpolitik, from uneasy alliances to the sometimes ugly calculations behind foreign policy. They take an unflinching look at the Russia-Ukraine war, Israel and Gaza, and the cultural and geopolitical tensions threatening to reshape the global order. SHOWNOTES 00:00 China's Influence and Manipulation 19:27 Counterintelligence: Targeting and Loyalty Challenges 24:05 China's View on Ukraine & Taiwan 39:15 Flexible Pandemic Response Debate 45:27 Debt: The Biggest U.S. Threat 01:01:32 Career Politicians and Wealth Accumulation 01:05:43 Putin Stalling Amid Peace Talks 01:15:55 Economy Concerns Over Foreign Issues 01:24:56 Iranian Regime: Root of Conflict 01:39:28 Phosphate Mining Debate in Florida 01:43:51 University Activism: Passion or Organization? 02:02:37 Border Security and Deportation Debate 02:05:27 "Fast-Moving Organization's Risky Strategy" 02:17:20 "Life Decisions: Do Your Best" FOLLOW MIKE BAKER:Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/mbcompanymanPresident's Daily Brief: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidentsDailyBriefPortman Square Group: https://www.portmansquaregroup.com/ CHECK OUT OUR SPONSORS Vital Proteins: Get 20% off by going to ⁠https://www.vitalproteins.com⁠ and entering promo code IMPACT at check out Upway: Get $150 OFF any purchase over a thousand when you use code IMPACT at ⁠https://upway.co⁠. iRestore: For a limited time only, our listeners are getting a HUGE discount on the iRestore Elite when you use code IMPACT at ⁠https://iRestore.com/impact⁠. Monarch Money: Use code THEORY at ⁠https://monarchmoney.com⁠ for 50% off your first year! Mint Mobile: If you like your money, Mint Mobile is for you. Shop plans at ⁠https://mintmobile.com/impact.⁠  DISCLAIMER: Upfront payment of $45 for 3-month 5 gigabyte plan required (equivalent to $15/mo.). New customer offer for first 3 months only, then full-price plan options available. Taxes & fees extra. See MINT MOBILE for details. What's up, everybody? It's Tom Bilyeu here: If you want my help... STARTING a business:⁠ join me here at ZERO TO FOUNDER⁠ SCALING a business:⁠ see if you qualify here.⁠ Get my battle-tested strategies and insights delivered weekly to your inbox:⁠ sign up here.⁠ ********************************************************************** If you're serious about leveling up your life, I urge you to check out my new podcast,⁠ Tom Bilyeu's Mindset Playbook⁠ —a goldmine of my most impactful episodes on mindset, business, and health. Trust me, your future self will thank you. ********************************************************************** Join me live on my⁠ Twitch stream⁠. I'm live daily from 6:30 to 8:30 am PT at⁠ www.twitch.tv/tombilyeu⁠ ********************************************************************** LISTEN TO IMPACT THEORY AD FREE + BONUS EPISODES on APPLE PODCASTS:⁠ apple.co/impacttheory⁠ ********************************************************************** FOLLOW TOM: Instagram:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/⁠ Tik Tok:⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en⁠ Twitter:⁠ https://twitter.com/tombilyeu⁠ YouTube:⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There are fears many first responders carry—but rarely talk about. In this episode, Coach Ashlie Walton and Sergeant Clint Walton reveal five common fears officers silently struggle with, and offer strategies to face them head-on with confidence, clarity, and support.

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Episode 93! In this week's episode of Drunk Real Estate, the team dives into the surging bond yields, collapsing liquidity, and growing fears that the U.S. treasury market is flashing major warning signs. Is China dumping U.S. debt? Are leveraged bond trades putting the global economy at risk? And how will this all impact real estate investors, mortgage rates, and Fed policy?

Raising teenagers is a whole new parenting adventure—and for single moms, it can feel like you're navigating uncharted waters alone. In this episode, Kelly Evans and Mel Hiett dive into the unique challenges and beautiful moments of parenting teens. From shifting control to building deeper connection, they explore how curiosity, consistency, and grace can transform your relationship with your teenager. They talk openly about the emotional rollercoaster of raising teens, how to keep communication open even when your teen seems shut off, and why embracing the mundane can lead to your most meaningful conversations. Single mom, you are not alone on this journey. 

Feeling awkward or unsure about managing friends or former teammates? You're not alone—and you don't have to figure it out the hard way. In this episode of The New Manager Playbook, Lia Garvin breaks down one of the toughest leadership transitions—going from peer to boss—and shares real stories, hard lessons, and actionable strategies to help you lead with confidence, authority, and empathy.Whether you're a first-time manager, newly promoted, or coaching others through this tricky leadership shift, this episode is packed with insights you won't want to miss.What You'll Learn In This Episode:✅ Why managing a former peer or friend is harder than it seems✅ The 3 BIGGEST mistakes new managers make (and how to avoid them)✅ How to set boundaries and expectations without damaging relationships✅ Why downplaying your promotion hurts you—and your team✅ The exact conversation to have when roles shift from peer to manager✅ How to reset the working dynamic while building trust and buy-inIf you've recently been promoted or are preparing to take the next step in your career, this episode will equip you with the mindset and tools to thrive as a new manager.

Discover the hidden truth about partner jealousy in open relationships! Ever struggled with feelings of control when your partner is with someone else? In this raw and honest video, I share my personal journey from experiencing intense anxiety to finding peace and excitement in open relationships.   Want to know how I transformed those uncomfortable feelings of jealousy into genuine excitement for my partner's experiences? I break down the exact steps that helped me overcome my fears, including practical communication strategies and mindset shifts that changed everything.   You'll learn: • Why jealousy is often about control, not love • How to identify and address your true fears • Practical steps to build trust and confidence • The power of open communication with your partner • Ways to turn anxiety into excitement   Whether you're new to open relationships or experienced in the lifestyle, this video offers valuable insights into managing emotions and building stronger connections. Ready to transform your relationship experience?   #OpenRelationships #RelationshipAdvice #Lifestyle #CouplesGrowth #Partnership #Trust #Communication   #selfimprovement #openrelationship #personaldevelopment #mentalhealth #relationshipfears   CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 01:10 - John's Journey to Acceptance in Polyamory 02:46 - Overcoming Fears of Losing Control 06:57 - Coping with Partner's Outside Relationships 09:02 - Managing Jealousy and Insecurity 10:10 - Strategies for Emotional Resilience 11:19 - Reaction to Partner's Return Home 12:18 - Navigating Feelings with Partner 12:53 - Emotions After Partner's Infidelity 14:08 - Processing Betrayal and Trust Issues 14:35 - Understanding Feelings of Deception 14:59 - Healing from Cheating Experiences 15:44 - Long-term Effects of Infidelity 16:20 - Moving Forward After Betrayal

Delegation is one of the most powerful tools in productivity, but many people either avoid it or do it wrong. In this episode of The Productivity Show, we explore how to delegate the right way—so you can multiply your time, empower others, and still maintain high standards. You'll learn when to delegate, what to delegate, […]

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Divorce can feel like your life is spinning out of control—and in many ways, it is. You're not just splitting up a relationship. You're restructuring your family, finances, home life, and daily routines. It's easy to get caught up in the chaos, trying to manage everything, fix everything, and control the uncontrollable. But here's the truth: mastering the art of losing control is how you survive this. And, paradoxically, it's how you gain real control where it counts.Let's break it down—what you can control, what you can't, and what to do about it.Join our Signal Channel: https://shorturl.at/8yqTbJoin The Divorce Dadvocate Membership Community - FULL Episodes - Live Meetings – FREE Workshops & Courses – Private Discussion Groups & MORE! - https://thedivorceddadvocate.com/membership-tiers/How Are You Adjusting To Your Divorce? Find out in this quiz - http://www.thedivorceddadvocate.com/divorce-quiz.html*FREE Dads Guide To Divorce* How to survive and thrive during and after divorce: http://www.dadsguidetodivorce.comDon't suffer in silence! Get relief from the pain and confusion of your divorce and schedule your FREE, No Obligation Coaching Consultation - schedule a time directly into my schedule at www.TalkWithJude.com.Join other divorced dads who have experienced or are experiencing divorce in this FREE Divorced Dads Online Meetup Group - https://www.meetup.com/Divorced-Dads-Meetup-Group/Other Resources:The Divorced Dadvocate Website - http://www.TheDivorcedDadvocate.comThe Divorced Dadvocate YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeSwx-F8KK4&list=PLT4HyN5ishYJznK51205ESxGZ2d19YkBpThe Divorced Dadvocate Podcast - https://thedivorceddadvocate.buzzsprout.com/Divorced Dads Online Meetup Group - https://www.meetup.com/Divorced-Dads-Meetup-Group/The Divorced Dadvocate Facebook Group - https://www.facebook.com/thedivorceddadvocate/Music credit: Akira the DonSend us a text Support the show

"This episode is your permission slip to not have it all figured out" In this episode I'm chatting about jumping in to your new venture without having all your t's crossed and i's dotted. Sometimes it's something that you just need to do! I'll speak from personal experience, and we'll also do a mini case study on Meghan Markle's latest business ventures. A few takeaways from this episode: Building a business requires taking small steps. Mistakes are part of the learning process. You can refine and improve your work over time. Trust yourself to figure things out along the way. Big ideas can be intimidating; start small. If you have the time, please could you rate and review this podcast or subscribe to it. It really helps us to continue making this free content for you and we just generally appreciate that you would do this for us! Have a great week guys!Ellen xx This episode is sponsored by Trello. Sign up for Trello HERE - it's free to get started! ~~~ Mentioned in today's episode: Book recommendation: The Perfectionists Guide to Losing Control - by Katherine Morgan Schafler Want to get more Ellen or Work with her and her team? Join the Dishing up Digital School: https://www.dishingupdigital.com/courses Ellen's Instagram Page: https://www.instagram.com/ellenmackenziee/ Mackenzie Studios Instagram Page: https://www.instagram.com/mackenziestudios.nz/ Ellen on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ellenmackenzieee?lang=en Ellen on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@EllenandTara/videos Buy Ellen's Book: https://www.ellenmackenzie.com/book

Feeling stuck in comparison mode? Wondering if you're doing enough in your business? In this episode, I sit down with Gina Jokilehto of Shi Shi Events to talk about how to leave behind industry FOMO for good and reconnect with your own path, creativity, and joy.Gina shares her journey from the music industry to luxury weddings, what happened when Instagram started triggering comparison, and how she rewired her relationship with success, boundaries, and social media. We also chat about practical ways to stay inspired, trust your gut, and politely say no to misaligned opportunities (without guilt!).This conversation is full of mindset shifts, encouragement, and actionable tips—especially for creatives navigating burnout or self-doubt.Resources Mentioned:The Perfectionist's Guide to Losing Control by Katherine Morgan SchaflerDifferent by Youngme MoonThe Rise of the Creative Class by Richard FloridaThe Culture Code by Daniel CoyleHeadspace AppConnect with Gina:Website: www.shishievents.comInstagram: @shishieventsLet me know if you'd like a shorter version for Spotify or Apple Podcasts character limits!

Dr. Steven Stein, world-renowned clinical psychologist, best-selling author, and MHS founder, consults for military, corporate, and TV shows, specializing in psychological assessment and emotional intelligence. He also hosts the podcast Work Therapy. In this episode, Dr. Steven explores how EI has evolved since its early days and why some leaders still underestimate its impact. Steven explains what leaders often overlook when developing their emotional intelligence and why traits like empathy and self-awareness are more important than ever. He also reveals the hidden factors that differentiate high-performing leaders from those who struggle under pressure. Through real-world examples—including a fascinating case study with the U.S. Air Force—Steven demonstrates how improving EI can directly enhance leadership effectiveness and retention. He also addresses the challenges of maintaining emotional intelligence in high-stress situations and how leaders can foster resilience and adaptability within their teams. As the workplace continues to shift with remote work, AI-driven decision-making, and evolving company cultures, Steven shares actionable strategies for leaders to build trust, authenticity, and engagement in their organizations. Whether you're a business leader, coach, or aspiring executive, this conversation is packed with valuable lessons on how emotional intelligence shapes leadership success.     Key Takeaways [02:22] Dr. Steven Stein shares that beyond his public achievements, he also leads a 12-piece jazz-rock band, highlighting the intersection of music and leadership. [03:55] Emotional intelligence (EI) has evolved significantly, moving from skepticism to a widely accepted concept influencing leadership, teamwork, and individual performance across various industries. [06:50] A critical aspect of leadership is developing empathy, actively listening, and understanding the emotions of those around you to enhance relationships and decision-making. [09:11] Under stress, leaders may become less empathetic and more directive, which can harm relationships and team dynamics. Maintaining emotional intelligence under pressure is crucial for effective leadership. [12:49] Resilient leaders and first responders thrive under high-stress situations by embracing the "Three Cs": Commitment (to a bigger purpose), Challenge (viewing obstacles as solvable problems), and Control (focusing on what can be influenced). [18:53] As AI and algorithms increasingly influence decision-making, emotional intelligence remains a crucial human advantage, offering insights and adaptability that machines cannot replicate. [22:51] A landmark study with the U.S. Air Force found that emotional intelligence training significantly improved recruiter retention rates from 50% to 92%, demonstrating the tangible impact of EI in the workplace. [29:20] Purpose-driven organizations with emotionally intelligent leadership experience significantly lower turnover rates, as employees feel valued and aligned with the company's mission. [31:47] The shift to remote work has increased the need for authentic leadership. Employees are now more likely to leave companies rather than just their managers if they lack trust in organizational leadership. [33:44] Key leadership traits for retaining employees include authenticity, respect, clear communication, and allowing employees autonomy while offering guidance and support. [38:07] Many leaders struggle to delegate due to a fear of losing control or a perfectionist mindset. Effective leaders recognize their strengths and empower others to handle areas where they are less skilled. [41:57] Leaders should be aware of employees' personal struggles without trying to solve them directly, instead offering support and resources to help them navigate challenges. [41:26] Closing quote: Remember “Emotional intelligence is your ability to recognize and understand emotions in yourself and others and your ability to use this awareness to manage your behavior and relationships. ” —  Travis Bradberry   Quotable Quotes "Great leaders master the art of empathy." "Under pressure, emotional intelligence is often the first thing to slip. The best leaders stay self-aware and maintain composure, even in high-stress situations." "Resilience comes down to the 'Three Cs': Commitment to a greater purpose, viewing obstacles as challenges rather than threats, and focusing on what you can control." "Organizations thrive when leadership is authentic. Employees don't just leave bad managers anymore—they leave companies that lack purpose and integrity." "Emotions play a crucial role in decision-making. The best leaders don't suppress their emotions; they understand and use them to make better choices." "The best workplaces foster autonomy and respect. Give people ownership of their work, and you'll see creativity, motivation, and engagement soar." "Leadership isn't about having all the answers; it's about empowering the right people to find the best solutions." "Delegation isn't about losing control—it's about recognizing where others can excel and trusting them to contribute their expertise." "The true test of leadership is how well you handle uncertainty. Those who adapt and evolve will always stay ahead." "Support your people, but don't try to be their personal problem solver. A great leader provides resources and guidance without overstepping boundaries." “Emotional intelligence is your ability to recognize and understand emotions in yourself and others and your ability to use this awareness to manage your behavior and relationships. ” —  Travis Bradberry Resources Mentioned The Leadership Podcast | Sponsored by | Rafti Advisors. LLC | Self-Reliant Leadership. LLC | Dr. Steven Stein's LinkedIn | Dr. Steven Stein's Website | Dr. Steven Stein's Facebook | Dr. Steven Stein's Youtube | Work Therapy: When Work Sucks, How Can We Fix It? - 

Send us a textScaling a business is every entrepreneur's goal, but many struggle with maintaining control, hiring the right team, and stepping into a true leadership role. In this episode of The Catalytic Leadership Podcast, Dr. William Attaway sits down with Steven Perry, an accomplished entrepreneur who left a $900K/year corporate career to launch The Well Recruiting Solutions. Steven shares invaluable insights on transitioning from operator to CEO, recruiting top talent, and building a business that aligns with core values and long-term vision. If you're an agency owner or business leader navigating growth challenges, this episode provides actionable strategies to help you scale effectively without losing control. Learn how to streamline hiring, develop a leadership mindset, and create a sustainable, high-performing company.Connect with Steven Perry:Steven Perry is active on LinkedIn, where he shares leadership, hiring, and business growth strategies. Connect with him at LinkedIn or visit hirethewell.com to access his top interview questions and learn more about The Well Recruiting Solutions.Books Mentioned:360-Degree Leader by John C. MaxwellRight now, you can get an extra 20% off your ticket for the Scale with Stability Summit with my exclusive code CATALYTIC20 at checkout.Visit scalewithstability.com to grab your ticket—I hope to see you there! Right now, you can get an extra 20% off your ticket for the Scale with Stability Summit with my exclusive code CATALYTIC20 at checkout.Visit scalewithstability.com to grab your ticket—I hope to see you there! Right now, you can get an extra 20% off your ticket for the Scale with Stability Summit with my exclusive code CATALYTIC20 at checkout.Visit scalewithstability.com to grab your ticket—I hope to see you there!Support the showJoin Dr. William Attaway on the Catalytic Leadership podcast as he shares transformative insights to help high-performance entrepreneurs and agency owners achieve Clear-Minded Focus, Calm Control, and Confidence. Free 30-Minute Discovery Call:Ready to elevate your business? Book a free 30-minute discovery call with Dr. William Attaway and start your journey to success. Special Offer:Get your FREE copy of Catalytic Leadership: 12 Keys to Becoming an Intentional Leader Who Makes a Difference. Connect with Dr. William Attaway: Website LinkedIn Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTube

Manchester City's struggles continue after another frustrating result, and questions are mounting about their top-four hopes. Simon Bajkowski and Alex James break down all the key talking points, including: ⚽ City's loss of control – why can't they dominate games anymore?

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What if you could step away from your business and it would still run smoothly? This episode is a special replay of one of our most-loved podcasts! Mike Campion sits down with Daisy, a cleaning business owner who transformed her struggling, seasonal business into a thriving, self-sustaining company. After facing major personal and professional challenges, Daisy learned how to build systems, trust her team, and step back from daily operations. She shares how core values became the backbone of her success and how she overcame self-doubt to create more freedom in her life. If you're feeling overwhelmed in your business, this episode is packed with insights to help you work less and grow more. Tune in to hear Daisy's inspiring journey and actionable strategies! Love the idea, but find it overwhelming? Want to learn the next steps like, what to actually say on the call? Jump on a call with one of our coaches and learn strategies on how to grow your cleaning company and start loving your job every day! Book here

Millions of us use mobile apps to help manage our physical and mental health and wellbeing. How well does existing law protect the private health data collected by these apps? In this episode, hosts Alicia Downey and Kelsey Paine talk to privacy and cybersecurity law expert David Turetsky about the issues posed by healthcare apps that collect sensitive data relating to a user's mental health, reproductive cycle, dietary habits, or fitness, to name only a few examples. Listen and catch up on U.S. federal and state enforcement challenges to app companies that engage in the unauthorized disclosure of personal health data, and how a changing legal landscape may be posing an increased threat to health data privacy rights. With special guest: David Turetsky, Professor of Practice, College of Emergency Preparedness, Homeland Security and Cybersecurity, SUNY Albany Related Links: David Turetsky, "Health Privacy: Identifying Some Key Issues" (Feb. 6, 2025) Hosted by: Alicia Downey, Downey Law LLC and Kelsey Paine, Baker Botts LLP

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Are you a business owner feeling overwhelmed by endless tasks? Do you struggle with the fear of losing control if you delegate? In this episode of SoTellUs Time, we dive deep into the art of mastering delegation without compromising on quality or control. Discover proven strategies that empower you to delegate effectively, boost productivity, and scale your business—while maintaining full oversight. Why Business Owners Struggle to Delegate

Hi Everyone and Welcome to I Said What I Said Channel.After two tough losses, one of them embarrassing, Bill Self is on the verge of having back-to-back seasons that are his worst in the Big 12 since he's taken over at Kansas!We take a look at if things are over for the Jayhawks in this new era of college basketball.In this video we cover✔️Kansas's Flailing Recruiting✔️Improved state of the Big 12 Conference✔️NIL and how that impacts Kansas✔️Future of Kansas basketballLet us know in the comments if you think the days of dominance are over for Kansas or if this is just a blip on the radar!  

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Lesley Logan interviews Chris Janssen, life coach and author of Grace Yourself: How to Show Up for the Sober Life You Want. Chris shares her inspiring journey of overcoming perfectionism and addiction to create a fulfilling, purpose-driven life. Learn practical tools to build resilience, reframe self-sabotage, and unlock your potential for extraordinary growth.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Chris' writing journey and the importance of vulnerability in storytelling.How perfectionism shaped her struggles with addiction and personal growth.Identifying and breaking unhealthy self-imposed rules for success.Reframing obstacles by tweaking tactics, not giving up on desired outcomes.Differentiating healthy guilt from harmful shame in overcoming setbacks.Lessons from relapse and strategies to rebuild commitment.Episode References/Links:Chris Janssen Coaching – https://chrisjanssencoaching.comGrace Yourself Book Release Feb. 18 – https://graceyourselfbook.comInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/chris3janssenFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/chrisjanssencoachingLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisjanssencoachingGuest Bio:Chris Janssen, MA, BCC, is a leading results coach in performance and mindset and bestselling, award-winning author of "Living All In: How to Show Up for the Life You Want." She has worked with hundreds of sought-after professional athletes, singers, dancers, Hollywood writers, artists, authors, soldiers, entrepreneurs, and small businesses internationally to close the gap between where they are and where they want to be. In addition to her academic degrees, Chris was trained by and worked with Tony Robbins on his team of results coaches, the #1 personal development and peak performance strategy company in the world. As a board-certified coach, Chris excels in helping high-achieving perfectionists navigate performance pressure, overcome self-sabotage, re-write narratives, & attach meaning to life events & circumstances beyond our control, through utilizing her successful and sustainable Living All In methods. With a master's in counseling psychology and 25+ years' experience, Chris is widely regarded by entrepreneurs and creatives. Her 2nd book, "Grace Yourself: How to Show Up for the Sober Life You Want" is available now for pre-order. By pre-ordering you'll immediately receive bonus content Chris created for you and is only making available between now and launch day on March 18, 2025! A California native, Chris lives with her husband since 1995, Scott. They are currently Caliradoans, spliing time between Los Angeles and Castle Pines, Colorado, where they love to ski, golf, be with their horses, and adventure outside. Together they raised three children, now thriving young adults. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Chris Janssen 0:00  It is a lot easier to stay sober than to get sober. So I tried it again. I'm an achiever, so I kept thinking. I got this. I can do it. In the book I do share about the last time alcohol got the best of me. I mean, I was passed out and on the ground if my husband wasn't there, I don't know if I would. I mean, it just completely obliterated me.Lesley Logan 0:24  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:05  All right, Be It babe. I'm super excited because today's guest, I got to meet in person. You know those moments where you kind of make eye contact with someone, and then later on, you end up in the exact same room as them, and you're like, hey, I already met you, right? So it's kind of like those romcom movies, where they pass each other on the train or whatever, and then they're like in the meeting, right? So Chris Janssen is our guest today. She is the author of the newest, most amazing book called Grace yourself. And I'm just really excited to have this conversation with you, Chris, but I also am so glad we got to meet, we got to have dinner together, like we just kept hanging out all weekend long in Nashville. So Chris, tell everyone who you are and what you rock at. Chris Janssen 1:45  Oh, I'm so happy I met you, I'm so happy I know you, so happy to be on the show. Yeah, I am a life coach, and I have been loving writing books. This is my second book. So really, what I do is I help high-achieving perfectionists navigate performance pressure, overcome self-sabotage, rewrite narratives, that's a big part of what I do, and attach meaning to life events and circumstances, usually those circumstances outside of our control, right? So that's really my niche, and what I love doing, and what I'm very good at. And the books help people do that, and they're full of tools and exercises too, because we all know it's a good idea to do that, but then how do you do it? So I walk people through how to.Lesley Logan 2:29  Yeah. Okay, so first of all, I think every listener's ears perked up when you just basically said all the labels that they, this is them, high-achieving, high-performing perfectionism. And I think some of those times, we don't want people to know that about us, so we like to hide those labels as well. And I think we can talk more about that when we get into your book. You've now written two. Can we talk a little about the journey of writing? Because I think a lot of people have a story to share, and something I love about the way you write, I feel like I was sitting down with you the way you write. It's not just conversational. You are sharing your story, but also, I love how you are anticipating what your reader might even be thinking before they think it. So can we talk a little about the journey to write and writing your story specifically? Because that's hard to do. You're sharing things that like, I don't know, maybe people want to keep quiet about themselves. So Kim, how did you do that? How did you go, yeah, here's all the things that I did.Chris Janssen 3:26  Yeah, it's embarrassing. Part of it's my age. I'm 55 my kids are all in their 20s, and I, part of it is I don't care as much as I used to when I was in my 30s. Thank you for saying that. I hear that a lot, that my books, my writing, is very conversational. I've always loved writing since I was a little girl. I wanted to be a famous lyricist in Nashville like I wanted to write, but I have no musical talent whatsoever. I can't even clap on beat in church. So that didn't pan out.Lesley Logan 3:59  I understand that, too. I used to wait for people to clap and I go okay, let me get on their beat.Chris Janssen 4:07  Yeah, oh, I know my husband's like, holds my hands at church. Okay, now. Yeah. I actually, years and years ago, went to a few writing conferences, and I made a stab at writing fiction like fantasy. It was horrific. I was terrible. So I like reading books. But then after I became a coach, I thought, I want all this written down. I won't be here forever, so I'd love this written down, mostly for my kids. And I really, truly love my clients. I love them. So when I'm writing, I'm definitely writing to my clients, and that helps a lot any writer. I was just coaching a writer and saying, you know, this is more about who you're talking to than letting us know your story, and once you're doing that, you're able to be more vulnerable and share the parts of, for me, I could share the parts of myself that, yeah, I would think, theoretically, they'd be pretty embarrassing to share if I'm sharing them, because it's going to help somebody else come out of the dark and take the shame off their stuff. Definitely, I'm going to share it. And then, of course, when I was done writing, I thought, oh my gosh, what have I done? I don't want anyone to read it. But then that passed too, because it's important. It was put on my heart to write in this book, brace yourself, the subtitle's How to Show Up for the Sober Life You Want. And it's really mostly about overcoming self-sabotage and being a perfectionist in order to help people with that, I do share how I used to be addicted to alcohol, and I'm not anymore, and how being a high achiever, being a perfectionist played into those habits that were really bad for me. Lesley Logan 5:54  When I was reading the first chapters of your book, guys, I got the sneak peek. First of all, I sat and read them at lunch. So again, that conversationality was, like, really easy for me to flow through and and read that. But why I think it's exciting to talk to you today is I actually think that you could almost insert alcohol and sobriety from any kind of addiction, because the way you talk about is going to spoil (inaudible) I think it's like chapter two, you're like, I had a spreadsheet and I would measure it and I wouldn't do it after five. I had to be after five o'clock, and I, or so on the weekends, I had all these rules. And I was like, I know too many women who do that with food, or they do that with shopping, or they do it with lots of different things. If I have all these rules and it's all under my control, then I can't be an addiction that's controlling me, and clearly that's the story we're telling ourselves.Chris Janssen 6:46  Exactly, yeah, and that's a big coaching tool of mine is helping people with the rules they have for getting what they want. The rules are messed up. By the rules we set for ourselves, this is all in the book, we make it impossibly difficult to succeed in getting what we want and tragically easy to fail at getting what we want, right? Let's say, just also pick an easy one. Let's say what I want is to be happy. Well, if the rule I set for myself for being happy is people have to like me, that is a rule that I can't control, because I can't control what people think. So it's outside of my control. So I'm setting myself up for failure. So that could be with alcohol, shopping, anything. Yeah and then, so if we ditch the rule and don't ditch the outcome, don't ditch what we want, stay true to that, then tweak the rule, then we have a shot at getting what we want.Lesley Logan 7:44  That okay, that's I love this because, you know, something that I see when I coach a lot of the people in our fitness business program, and even, like the people that I work with on their Pilates practice, they'll say, like, I'm going to get three clients, and it's okay. I love that as a goal, like a rule, but you actually have control of when people decide to sign up with you. You know what I mean. So I like the outcome that you want. We can have that, but I think we need to tweak the how, or the rule or the thing you're doing, because, like, you only have control truly about the actions you take. You don't have control of the people who like this is the time they actually decide in the timeline you wanted to sign up with you. That's what you're talking about, right?Chris Janssen 8:23  Exactly. So in that case, it would be, what is it that you really want? Tell me what you want more than the three clients, right? Because, why do you want three clients? What? How will you know when you have three clients? How will you know like when you have, oh, because I'll be happy. Okay, well, maybe let's talk about that. Define happy, then that's probably the bigger one. So the three clients, we're gonna tweak that and not make that a standard, but we're gonna stay true to the bigger one, the being happy, or whatever it is that we came up with. Lesley Logan 8:55  Oh, my God you're even, you're so good, yes, because that is making us distill down, like, what are we really wanting and what do we have control over for that? Yes, okay, so you've been a life coach for a really long time. So you've been seeing people like, helping people figure out what they want in their life for a really long time. Can we talk about becoming a life coach and then the life coach, correct me if I'm wrong, like you were life coaching and still trying to control the drinking at the same time or was it you became a life coach after? Remind me of the timeline.Chris Janssen 9:27  Well, the timeline is I got sober in 2007 and was sober for 14 years from alcohol, and so I became a life coach at that time. I enjoyed, yeah, and I, by the way, got to raise my babies. They've never seen me struggle with this. Never seen me drunk. I mean, sobriety gave me such a beautiful life. So I was already a life coach. Then in 2020 we moved to a different state. I had never lived outside of California. We moved to a different state, just like people were in 2020, I was a brand new empty nester. Let's do something new. We moved part time. We were going to split time between these two places, and everything was going so great. I just thought, you know, maybe I'm not alcoholic, maybe I don't have a problem with this. I did drink to normal, lot of stuff that I've worked through now, a lot. I mean, it's hard being a mom of three kids and having three teenagers all at once, and having people in your life that are controlling, and you're so young you don't know how to set boundaries. You don't know, you know. So I'd worked through a lot of stuff in sobriety, and so I got to this place, I thought, why did I quit drinking again? I think I kind of went out on a high note, not a low note. I mean, I don't really love the word relapse. I just call it going out. But I had a drink again, and I decided to try it. And I say I went out on a high. It wasn't like I hit a low and relapse. And that happens a lot, and people don't talk about it enough that high achievers struggle with if it's not alcohol, it's something else. Right? So everything I learned about my life coaching was in sobriety. So I had worked out that perfectionism stuff.Lesley Logan 11:10  Yeah, which I mean, okay, that we can talk about that in a moment, because we'd all love to know I call myself a recovering perfectionist, because I feel like recovered would be the perfectionist in me, but okay, I actually think that is something I love about your story, and I thought would be so cool to talk about, because most people, they do go on a low, so they hit a rock bottom, and they have this rock bottom story. And not only is it embarrassing, it's often scary or life changing, like they could have lost it and you didn't have that you were actually, you did. Chris Janssen 11:50  Well, that's the crazy thing Lesley is so I did have a rock bottom with alcohol. My life in every other area was not unmanageable, but it was about to be. This is back when I first got sober in 2007 but I was still holding it all together. Yes, running in the morning, doing all this. But I did hit a bottom where it was that was a about to crumble, and I think it was a spiritual thing. I just thought, I'm gonna find a support meeting. I didn't know anyone alcoholic. No one in my family, believe it or not, my family, my parents, their parents, all my ancestors. They did not drink alcohol. They were just from the south. Very religious. They were teetotalers. So I didn't know. I didn't know. I don't even know if it runs in my family.Lesley Logan 12:35  Yeah. Okay. Thank you for correcting me. And then in 2020 you tried it again, but how did you make the decision to quit again? Did you use? Chris Janssen 12:45  I hit another bottom. Yeah, it is a lot easier to stay sober than to get sober. So I tried it again, and I tell this whole story in the book in a pretty concise way, but I'm an achiever, so I kept thinking, I got this, I can do it. That episode didn't work out though I wanted it to. We'll try it again. You know, I just kept giving it my all. Yeah, and I do share that's embarrassing in this, in the book, I do share about my last bottom, like, the last time alcohol got the best of me. I mean, I was passed out and on the ground. If my husband wasn't there, I don't know if I would. I mean, it just completely obliterated me. So I got sober again.Lesley Logan 13:27  Okay. I think it's true. I think it's probably easier to stay than to get especially for the achiever, perfectionist person, it's really hard not to beat up on yourself to have so much judgment of, how did I let that happen? And for the achievers, I interviewed someone who was like, you know, you can have these amazing strengths. Like, being an achiever is not a bad thing, and it gets a lot of stuff done. You like, take action. People don't like you because you get stuff done. But you can also have what he called the basement of that strength, which is, I can get stuff done. I can figure this out. I can try and make this happen. So I recognize that I understand that. I, in my own life, have seen how my achieverness and my perfectionist has gotten me into trouble because I'm like, I can figure this. I figure everything out. So it's just it's hard. Let's talk about the shame and judgment, though, because I think this is where you so beautifully wrote it in your book about what are those shame judgment spirals, and how do they not help us? Chris Janssen 14:22  Yeah, well, I think there is some healthy guilt, so I put a guilt assessment in there. Like, sometimes we have some guilt, and we really do need to make a change, right? Like, I needed to stop drinking alcohol. I think guilt is I did something wrong, and shame is I'm a bad person. I don't believe that there's any room ever, I don't think shame ever holds any room in our, yeah, I think it's trash. Lesley Logan 14:48  Yeah, I agree. I really. I mean, Brené Brown said it guilt versus shame, healthy guilt, I think is a good sign, because it's not. I am this. I did this. I feel bad about that, you know, versus I am stupid. No, I did a thing that wasn't very smart. That's the guilt versus shame, right? Like the label, yeah? Chris Janssen 15:07  And for me, it was really, I had to really define. And this all just happened because I started drinking again, and that is when I really had to look at, really, how perfectionism was playing a role in all of this, and that is why I wrote this second book, because I had a lot of realizations because of that experience. One of them was that I needed to ask, what is the difference between a perfectionist and achiever? A high achiever will go after their goals and they will achieve them, right? A perfectionist will say, if I have to do this, and if I don't, I'm trash, and that's where the shape comes in. So I think perfectionism is I think there's adaptive and maladaptive perfectionism, right? There's harmful and help, not really helpful. But I would rather call it achiever and perfectionism. Yeah, I don't think being a high achiever is bad. I think being a perfectionist can really cause a lot of shame and cause problems.Lesley Logan 16:07  Yeah, yeah. I agree with you. There's this book. I don't remember the name guys, but I tried to read it about this one was trying to kind of almost say, like, it's okay to be a perfectionist. And I found myself getting mad at her, because it's (inaudible).Chris Janssen 16:17  Was it The Perfectionist Guide to Losing Control? Lesley Logan 16:22  Yes and I didn't even get to the end. And maybe she gets better. First of all, I like the ideas of the different types of perfectionism. I thought that was actually very informative, that there can be messy perfectionist, but I just got real. I felt like she was trying to say it was okay to be perfectionist. And I was like, it's just not and maybe I didn't get to the end of her book to figure out, like, where her argument makes sense. But in my life, my perfection is what held me back. It's what kept me in a relationship that was not right for me. It's what made me push myself to unhealthy not sleeping over exercising like different things, where in I think it's okay, like, I don't mind the High Achiever label at all, because I do like to achieve things and make things happen, but when the perfectionist gets in there, I don't achieve things because I'm trying to over control it in a way that doesn't allow me to see the thing that I wanted to do in the first place. Chris Janssen 17:13  That's right, yeah. And another name for high achiever is high growth. Sometimes I just say I'm high growth. We're always looking to grow. And (inaudible) high achiever. Yeah, I'm with you. Yeah. Lesley Logan 17:26  I just love a reframe. I think, you know, a lot of words like selfishness, I think needs a rebrand, because I think so many people think they're being selfish when really it's self care. But I would love to hear from you like the be it till you see it, what were the steps that you are taking? And I know it's probably in your book that you got yourself to being sober again, and because, actually, I don't, I think it's and I'm sure you wish that you didn't go through your second bottom but I actually think it probably makes you a better person at coaching this and helping people through this, because you have done it, you actually know what's coming, and you can speak your story and probably save people from being curious about it again, but how, what were the things that you did to kind of help yourself get sober again? Because you had 14 years, so you had something you could kind of see to be. Chris Janssen 18:10  Yeah, that's a good question, and I'm grateful for it because I wrote the book, and I had gotten very comfortable in my sobriety. I used the example in the book when your kid ties their shoe for the first time, you're like, oh my gosh, that's amazing. There's all this celebration, but when they tie it at 10 years old or 14 years old, it's not that big of a deal. So for me, sobriety had become like that, like I was 14 years sober, and I was just thinking it was just part of life, and I didn't. I forgot how magical and how special it is. So in order to get sober again, and this really is my answer to the be it question is focus on your commitments over your cravings. So it does take grit. We can't just visualize. And I think any recovery program has to be a program of action, and you have to be in community, so part of that grit is going to be sticking to your commitment. And then in the book, I have people write out exactly why you want, what you want. I wasn't clear on that the first time. I just kind of got sober because I think, well, gosh, I really need to, I have these babies. And then I realized it's such a wonderful life, but then I forgot why. So really know your why, but then more important is stick to your commitment, and when the cravings hit, you have a commitment, it's like we talked about your outcome. That's the part. You don't ditch the things to get your outcome, which I call strategy or tactics. Those you can tweak. You could tweak the tactics, right? If something's not working, just pick something else. If it's three isn't the person you want in your class, pick different number, but don't ditch the outcome. Because I see this. My clients are all high achievers. I see this time and time again, where a high achiever will ditch the outcome altogether. Here, because either it's not perfect or they're not getting the results they wanted. And so when you get to that area where you plateau, don't throw in the towel, don't go backwards, don't ditch the outcome. Keep muscling through it. That's where you need grit. It's like that two millimeter shift, right, from going from great to extraordinary. We're already high achievers. We're operating at 98%. What is keeping us from that final 2% shift, that two millimeter shift, that's where you have to not throw in the towel, tweak the tactics and stick to your commitments. Lesley Logan 20:35  Yeah. That makes so much sense, and also isn't the simplest thing, the hardest thing to do?Chris Janssen 20:43  Yeah, that's why I say grit. Lesley Logan 20:45  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I also think the commitment part is really cool. I think also I can see how, like, in the first time, it was easier to stay committed, because you had those babies, and life was really fun. And I can also totally see how you're like, you know, I'm an empty nester. I got a new place. I probably figured it out. I totally can see that. And then to have to figure out a new commitment to yourself, because it had to be a different one. It couldn't be for them anymore. It had to really be for you.Chris Janssen 21:12  That's exactly right. Yep, that's the key, right there. So my son, my youngest, is a rock climber, and something he shared with me, really helps me, because in rock climbing, the route they take to get to the top is called the problem. And they commit to getting to the top right, they have an end goal, and that problem, the route to get to the top has to change, like based on the weather or the rock or erosion or whatever, it can't be the same every time, or it can't always be the way they think it's going to be. So they have to alter their expectations. And that's a good visual for me. Lesley Logan 21:53  I love that my husband and I wanted to take up rock climbing. I still think it could be a hobby for me, it's just that I just really wish there was a rock climbing gym just a little bit closer, because I wanted to be a little easier to go. But he and I, we have the same leg length and we're both flexible. So in theory, we could probably do the same problem. We go up the same route. I could follow him, or I could do what he did, because, you know, our leg length is the same. However, his years of experience rock climbing is different than mine. He's okay, like swinging a little bit by an arm and like grabbing onto something, he kind of understands how to launch himself, very different. Also just upper body strength, very different. So every time we do a route, really the same route, and we'll go totally different ways based on, like, how we can solve that problem and how we can get up there. I think that's such a cool if you haven't done rock climbing go. They have beginner ones, and they'll take you up. You don't do it on your own, but it's a great way to explore what you're saying. I love that. You wrote this book and you dedicated for you, the reader and for you, the writer, so it says for you and for me. Who are you hoping reads this book? Chris Janssen 23:04  Yeah, a high-achieving perfectionist that wants to reach their goals and not deal with shame, and they're you've hit a pain threshold where enough is enough, and you're tired of self-sabotaging and beating up on yourself. And you know, we have all this kind of mental health information right now on social media and like everyone's telling us all kinds of things left and right. So how do you do it? Well, I just hold your hand and walk you through exactly how to do that. So that is my suggestion. You don't have to be alcoholic. You don't have to have an addiction, but, most likely you're going to be a high achiever who is tired of being hard on yourself. Lesley Logan 23:47  Yeah, I think that's beautiful. I think even if it's not alcohol sobriety you're looking for, I do think if you are like, ladies, my high growth ladies, like, there's something magical about this, because you have the uncover section of the book. And then you have the recover, and then you have the rediscover, am I did I remember those correctly? Chris Janssen 24:06  Just discover, yeah. So very good, yeah. Discovery, uncovery, recovery.Lesley Logan 24:12  Yes. So uncovery, yeah. I love these three sections because I think it's something we all have to kind of learn about ourselves. And you're right, like you open up your Instagram app, and every self-help person is telling you 17 things you have to do to get to the same, some people are like, ditch goals to feel better about yourself. Other people, like, you have to have a specific goal and has to be measurable and smart and all these things. And so the high growth or like, I gotta do, I'm gonna do. I'm gonna take this one, I'm gonna take this one, and it can be so it can be so much information. And you really do hold the reader's hand as you kind of go through this and uncover what is going on. And I really love your questions that you give, like, who, what rule did you give yourself? And like, how did that go? And so I think it's in the first part you guys, you get this amazing section to kind of go over that. And I think it's beautiful and brilliant. Now the book is done and you know it by the time you all hear this, it's gonna be out soon. What is your what is, what's the next thing that you're working towards? Is it like, I feel like, because you are a high growth person, are you just, oh yes, the book is done. Are you screwed? Like, what are we being till we see right now?Chris Janssen 25:19  I started writing a third book about relation, about relationships, yeah, and, but there's a lot to do still with this book I would love. Yeah, I created assets. I wrote a workbook, so I just finished that. Just finished edits on that the other day. I created a master class. I created a workshop where I walk people through this. So I created these things so that if people want to buy the bulk book in bulk for, you know, a group, and it doesn't have to be an addiction or recovery group, it could be a book club or, you know, like your audience, people that are high growth, and they, you know, two or more people that want to work through this. I created all these fun things that I am gifting people, if they do buy in bulk, preorder before launch day in March. Lesley Logan 26:14  Okay, this is amazing because, you know, gone are the days you just read a book anymore, everyone, by the way. You have to do all these things.Chris Janssen 26:20  Oh my goodness.Lesley Logan 26:22  It's really true. You know, I guess I kind of wish I went into fiction writing. I wish I could just write fiction because you don't have to put assets with anything in fiction anymore. You write this beautiful thing and you like, I guess you hope it gets bought by Amazon. But you not only wrote this amazing book where you're so vulnerable and you give so much away. You put a workbook together, you put a course together all these things. I do think this is a book that is worth reading with your friends, even if none of you would call yourself an alcoholic or addicted to shopping or any of those labels. I think if you are high growth, it is a really good revealer and a good conversation, and like a great way to have deep conversations with our friends we probably wouldn't have without those prompts. Chris Janssen 27:04  I agree. Lesley Logan 27:05  Yeah. So then you got, Chris, you're amazing. You have a third book coming to some time. We'll have to talk about relationships next, when you're ready to do that, but we want to stick with this. I like to ask people what they're most excited about right now. So in this moment, what are you most excited about?Chris Janssen 27:20  So our youngest son got married a week ago. Lesley Logan 27:23  Oh my God. Chris Janssen 27:24  And my first kid to get married. So he is actually on his way. They got home from their honeymoon, and they're on their way to our house this hour. So that's, that's what I'm thinking about right now. Is him walking through the door, both of them. She's my new daughter. That's what I'm most excited about. But work wise, I'm super excited for the book launch. Really excited. I'm really excited for this book to be published for people, so that we could start talking about it with people that have already read it. I'm so excited. Lesley Logan 27:55  Yeah, I'm excited for you. It's a needed book and a needed conversation, because I do love how you talked about and not everyone likes the word alcoholic, you know, like that label doesn't feel like awesome. And I do love the way you reframe and the way you have an open conversation about the possibilities, and also that you get to be sober, as opposed to you have to be so, like, there's just different ways that make things not just accessible, but kind, and no wonder you called it Grace Yourself. Chris Janssen 28:25  Thank you. Yeah. Lesley Logan 28:26  Well, we're gonna take a brief break, and then we're gonna find out where people can buy this book. Maybe get it in bulk, so they get all those fun things and your Be It Action Items. Lesley Logan 28:26  All right, Chris, where can people go to buy the book? Where can they follow you? Where can they work with you?Chris Janssen 28:38  The main place, chrisjanssencoaching.com that's my website. I keep it updated with all those great bulk offers that I'm offering, making available between now and launch day, the upgrades, that will be at graceyourselfbook.comLesley Logan 28:54  Okay, all right, graceyourselfbook.com (inaudible).Chris Janssen 28:58  Yes, I will have a link to that on my website, in case you forget. So chrisjanssencoaching.com. Lesley Logan 29:05  Awesome, even if just the idea of reevaluating your outcomes and your goals so that you are keeping those commitments in mind, I think that's a wonderful reason to go work with you, Chris. I think so many of us place these rules on ourselves that become boxes that control us versus uplift us. So I think that's beautiful. And you guys, the book launches in March 18th. So we're putting this out early, so you have time to take advantage of those amazing offers that you've put together, and also the additional work you did to make sure that this book has so much complimentary so it's achievable for people. I really appreciate that. Lesley Logan 29:37  You've given us a lot, especially with the goal stuff, but I do want to, I, you know, it's not a too long didn't listen. It's, you know, my high growth women, they we got to have some steps to be bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted. Because when you're inspired, you're like, okay, what I do next? So what do you have for us? Chris Janssen 29:53  Like I said, stick to your commitments. Don't wait for motivation or inspiration. Commit and then get in action and just do it. And the subtitles of both my books are How to Show Up for the Life You Want and How to Show Up for the Sober Life You Want. So the word show up is my number one answer. Show up when you don't feel like it, right? Because it's easy to show up. And as achievers, we like feeling good. We like showing up to work out. There will be seasons or times or days or hours when we don't feel like showing up, and that's when we're going to show up anyway and stick to those commitments. Lesley Logan 30:30  I do agree, because sometimes you're just like, you're down, you're exhausted, but you know what, when you show up, you always feel better.Chris Janssen 30:39  Yeah, always, I think it's easier to show up than to cancel or make up an excuse to yourself why or someone else why you didn't show up.Lesley Logan 30:47  You are correct, because the amount of time you spend trying to figure out how to get out of something, you could have just gone and done it. So exactly, I truly learned in ditching my perfection to say no first, and if I decided I want to do it, I could always go back and say yes, but this way I didn't say yes to something I didn't want to go to, and then I had to figure out to get out of it. So that's good. Yeah, I'm like, if my gut is saying I don't think I want to do this, it's better to say, let me get back to you. Or this is awesome. I don't think it's going to work out and then change my mind.Chris Janssen 31:18  I love that I am taking that with me. That's good. I need that. Lesley Logan 31:23  Yes. Do you want to know something else that I also find? So even though everyone knows that your calendar is on your phone, everyone knows this, no one will actually say, oh, check your calendar right now, if you say you know what, I have to check my calendar, no one says that. They're like, Hey, I've got this thing going on on Saturday. And you can say, Oh, I have to check my calendar, and no one is going to be like, your calendars on your phone, really, truly, unless they're super pushy. They all just know that you're gonna go check it. And that buys me time to just see, like, how do I feel about that? Do I really want to go? Because sometimes people ask you things in a state that's like, not the like, you're feeling overwhelmed, and so that ask just feels overwhelming. But well, you really wanted to go, and then you'd have FOMO. So I just love to buy myself time, because it really helps. My husband has a tendency it's like a rebel. So he has no problems canceling on people, like just going, hey, it's not gonna work out. So sorry, let's take a new date. And I'm like, we can't we said we'd be there and we can't go. And I'm like, you know? So I learned through him. I'm like, let me just borrow a little of that rebelness for that. Before I let you go. Can we just I just want to go into because you said, don't wait for inspiration or motivation. Why can we not wait for those things? Chris Janssen 32:31  Most days, I'm inspired and motivated, because that's what high growth people are. If you made a commitment and you want to reach a goal, you can't only do it when you're inspired to do it or motivated to do it, you have to just do it and show up when you don't want to. That's why I think we can't wait for those things if, because what if something happens? That's, you know, my husband and I lost a really good friend a few weeks ago, and it happened right before the wedding. Right? We can't go, oh, I don't feel like talking to all these guests. I mean, you kind of just have to grieve, then move into celebration mode, then go back to grieve. You just have to show up. You have to keep showing up. It can't be based on feelings, so we've got to make decisions.Lesley Logan 33:16  Thank you for sharing that example. I'm so sorry for your loss, but you're right. So many people would have been like, Oh, of course, they're going to be at the wedding, but they're not going to talk to people and they would understand. But also you would have missed out on so many wonderful moments of love and energy and community and family. So thank you so much, Chris, your book is beautiful, and I can't wait to read the rest of it, and you guys all are gonna go get it at her website. We'll have all those links in the show notes, and please, if you buy it and you buy it in bulk, tag, Chris. Tag, the Be It Pod, so we can celebrate it. This is also a wonderful book to give to your achieving friends. But again, book clubs, it doesn't have to be a sober book club. It can just be a club of women who are needing to kind of consider how they're setting up some outcomes for themselves, and Chris will walk alongside you. So thank you, Chris, so much for being here and everyone until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 34:10  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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One of the books that has made the biggest impression on me in the last few years is The Perfectionist's Guide To Losing Control by Katherine Morgan Schafler. I have talked about this book EVERYWHERE and insisted that even people who do not self-identify as "perfectionists" would get something out of it.So you can imagine that I was thrilled with the Secret Stuff members chose TPGTLC as a book club pick and I was doubly thrilled when author Katherine Morgan Schafler agreed to attend our regular monthly book club meeting to discuss it.JOIN THE SECRET STUFF BOOK CLUB HEREThis episode is a replay of our book club discussion that was held over zoom, where Katherine and I held a great conversation about some of the major points of the book (including the five different types of "perfectionists"), and then Secret Stuff members got to ask her questions.I loved our conversation so much that I wanted everyone to hear it (and to read the book!). If you like these types of book club meetings, consider joining the Secret Stuff Book Club for 2025. We always have the best meetings with thoughtful conversations.Read The Perfectionist's Guide To Losing ControlFollow @katherinemorganschafler on IGFULL SHOW NOTES HEREMENTIONED in this episode:The Gifts of Imperfection by Brene Brown (also one of my favorite books of all time)“Tracker” on CBS SUBSCRIBE to 10 Things To Tell You so you never miss an episode!CLICK HERE for episode show notesFOLLOW @10ThingsToTellYou on InstagramFOLLOW @10ThingsToTellYou on FacebookJOIN the 10 Things To Tell You Connection GroupSIGN UP for episode emails, links, and show notesJOIN the Secret Stuff PatreonBUY THE BOOK: Share Your Stuff. I'll Go First. by Laura TremaineBUY THE BOOK: The Life Council: 10 Friends Every Woman Needs by Laura Tremaine Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

One of the books that has made the biggest impression on me in the last few years is The Perfectionist's Guide To Losing Control by Katherine Morgan Schafler. I have talked about this book EVERYWHERE and insisted that even people who do not self-identify as "perfectionists" would get something out of it. So you can imagine that I was thrilled with the Secret Stuff members chose TPGTLC as a book club pick and I was doubly thrilled when author Katherine Morgan Schafler agreed to attend our regular monthly book club meeting to discuss it. JOIN THE SECRET STUFF BOOK CLUB HERE This episode is a replay of our book club discussion that was held over zoom, where Katherine and I held a great conversation about some of the major points of the book (including the five different types of "perfectionists"), and then Secret Stuff members got to ask her questions. I loved our conversation so much that I wanted everyone to hear it (and to read the book!). If you like these types of book club meetings, consider joining the Secret Stuff Book Club for 2025. We always have the best meetings with thoughtful conversations. Read The Perfectionist's Guide To Losing Control Follow @katherinemorganschafler on IG FULL SHOW NOTES HERE MENTIONED in this episode: The Gifts of Imperfection by Brene Brown (also one of my favorite books of all time) “Tracker” on CBS   SUBSCRIBE to 10 Things To Tell You so you never miss an episode! CLICK HERE for episode show notes FOLLOW @10ThingsToTellYou on Instagram FOLLOW @10ThingsToTellYou on Facebook JOIN the 10 Things To Tell You Connection Group SIGN UP for episode emails, links, and show notes JOIN the Secret Stuff Patreon BUY THE BOOK: Share Your Stuff. I'll Go First. by Laura Tremaine BUY THE BOOK: The Life Council: 10 Friends Every Woman Needs by Laura Tremaine Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices