Podcasts about Maple Leaf Gardens

This week, Mike McGuire is back with the team to talk all about some of the stories from the industry side of pro wrestling. Following news of some 17 WWE talents and several office members being cut, The Wrestling Observer's Dave Meltzer joins in to go over some of the names and how things could pan out for them in their next steps. Also, AEW seems to be diving deeper into less complex, more compelling storylines as of late.  Is there a hunger for more of this type of content, or do the matches still matter most for Tony Khan's company. Plus, Celebrate Wrestling's Joe Aguinaldo joins the show as he and Mike talk about how we as fans take releases personally, and together also preview the upcoming Maple Leaf Pro Wrestling "Northern Rising" event, taking place at the former Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto! Exciting news about Celebrate Wrestling and gWo t-shirts!  Pre-orders continue now, but if you order before May 10, they will ship THAT WEEK!  Find out how you can also get a discount on the Celebrate Wrestling Facebook Page (https://www.facebook.com/groups/celebratewrestling) Find out more about our shows at www.celebratewrestling.com Thanks for listening!

Welcome back, Web-heads!  We have another great show for you, with a twist.  Adam is busy at Maple Leaf Gardens, so we called in Carlos and Javi as backup!  It is playoff season after all.  Comics, cartoons, and special assignments!      RUNDOWN: Carlos:   FOX Spider-Man S5, “The Wedding” and “Six Forgotten Warriors: Chapter 1” Javi:   2023's Spider-Man: The Lost Hunt Peter: Spider-Gwen Ghost Spider #12, Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man #5, Spider-Boy #18 Theme song by Matt Richey Logo by: Justin M. Kowalski Follow us on X: @SpideyCoalition

Entertainment Industry Titan Stephen Stohn talks about developing the Degrassi franchise with his wife Linda Schuyler, his interactions with Aubrey [Drake] Graham/Kevin Smith/Billy Ray Cyrus, the transformative experience of seeing The Beatles at Maple Leaf Gardens in 1964, his entertainment law work for some of Canadian music's biggest names, why he keeps gold records on his wall from KD Lang/Cowboy Junkies/ Alannah Myles, his longtime friendship/collaborations with OG Much Music VJ Christopher Ward, and his retirement project of recording the Beach Boys-influenced The Orange Sessions! For The Orange Sessions and everything Stephen Stohn, please visit https://stephenstohn.ca/ TORONTO LEGENDS is hosted by Andrew Applebaum at andrew.applebaum@gmail.com All episodes available at https://www.torontolegends.ca/episodes/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kris and David are finally joined by their dear friend, the debuting John Pollock (@iamjohnpollock / @iamjohnpollock.bsky.social) for the bookend segments of the show to discuss the week-plus that was February 10-17, 1987. Topics of discussion include:The Battle of the Greater Toronto and Hamilton Area, as Angelo Mosca andJim Crockett Promotions run a matinee at Copps Coliseum in Hamilton, Ontario on the same day as the WWF runs a nighttime card at Toronto's Maple Leaf Gardens advertised as Roddy Piper's "Canadian Farewell" show.The WWF's dominance of the Canadian wrestling scene and how Crockett is partly to blame for that happening.Jim Cornette burning Ronnie Garvin with his double flash paper fireball, leading to Jimmy Garvin turning babyface by making the save.Dick Murdoch's heel turn on the Super Powers and his amazing promo work explaining why he did what he did.Ric Flair letting us know what it's like being “Naitch.”Dave Meltzer watching recent WWC TV and giving his thoughts.Larry Sharpe and Bam Bam Bigelow take center stage in a segment about the Monster Factory on Entertainment Tonight.Tombstone and "Paulie Dangerously" making their debut on Florida TV.Chris Von Colt attacking Wendell Cooley with his flagpole in Continental.Jerry Lawler and Nick Bockwinkel forming an unlikely tag team in Memphis to take on Austin Idol and Tommy Rich.Chris Adams and “Iceman” King Parsons talk about their how their friendship helped Adams get through his time in federal prison in an ominous promo, which is naturally followed by the angle that splits them up.Hulk Hogan finally accepting Andre the Giant's challenge for WrestleMania III on a memorable edition of Piper's Pit.This show was fantastic, and we were so pumped to have John join us, so hope you enjoy it, too!!!!Timestamps:0:00:00 The Battle of the Greater Toronto and Hamilton Area0:49:08 Jim Crockett Promotions1:42:25 Int'l: AJW, All-Star, Montreal, Stampede, EMLL, UWA, & WWC2:05:58 Classic Commercial Break2:10:31 Halftime Plus3:41:42 USA East: Bam Bam Bigelow/Monster Factory on Entertainment Tonight, CWFlorida, ICW (Savoldi)/Tyree Pride, Continental, & CWA/Memphis4:51:52 USA West: UWF, WCCW, AWA, Eddie Sharkey, California deregulation, & Portland5:30:17 WWFTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you're looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you've been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you'll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you're looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Kris and David are finally joined by their dear friend, the debuting John Pollock (@iamjohnpollock / @iamjohnpollock.bsky.social) for the bookend segments of the show to discuss the week-plus that was February 10-17, 1987. Topics of discussion include:The Battle of the Greater Toronto and Hamilton Area, as Angelo Mosca andJim Crockett Promotions run a matinee at Copps Coliseum in Hamilton, Ontario on the same day as the WWF runs a nighttime card at Toronto's Maple Leaf Gardens advertised as Roddy Piper's "Canadian Farewell" show.The WWF's dominance of the Canadian wrestling scene and how Crockett is partly to blame for that happening.Jim Cornette burning Ronnie Garvin with his double flash paper fireball, leading to Jimmy Garvin turning babyface by making the save.Dick Murdoch's heel turn on the Super Powers and his amazing promo work explaining why he did what he did.Ric Flair letting us know what it's like being “Naitch.”Dave Meltzer watching recent WWC TV and giving his thoughts.Larry Sharpe and Bam Bam Bigelow take center stage in a segment about the Monster Factory on Entertainment Tonight.Tombstone and "Paulie Dangerously" making their debut on Florida TV.Chris Von Colt attacking Wendell Cooley with his flagpole in Continental.Jerry Lawler and Nick Bockwinkel forming an unlikely tag team in Memphis to take on Austin Idol and Tommy Rich.Chris Adams and “Iceman” King Parsons talk about their how their friendship helped Adams get through his time in federal prison in an ominous promo, which is naturally followed by the angle that splits them up.Hulk Hogan finally accepting Andre the Giant's challenge for WrestleMania III on a memorable edition of Piper's Pit.This show was fantastic, and we were so pumped to have John join us, so hope you enjoy it, too!!!!Timestamps:0:00:00 The Battle of the Greater Toronto and Hamilton Area0:49:08 Jim Crockett Promotions1:42:25 Int'l: AJW, All-Star, Montreal, Stampede, EMLL, UWA, & WWC2:05:58 Classic Commercial Break2:10:31 Halftime Plus3:41:42 USA East: Bam Bam Bigelow/Monster Factory on Entertainment Tonight, CWFlorida, ICW (Savoldi)/Tyree Pride, Continental, & CWA/Memphis4:51:52 USA West: UWF, WCCW, AWA, Eddie Sharkey, California deregulation, & Portland5:30:17 WWFTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you're looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you've been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you'll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you're looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

The story, and history of Maple Leaf Gardens is well documented. It has been described as having religious significance, there is reverence and well earned-lore. A loathsome thread exists too.  Without question it is one of the most significant buildings ever constructed in Canada and a big part of its legend is that it was completed during the early years of the Great Depression. But what was Toronto Maple Leafs' owner Conn Smythe's intent?  Why did he build it where he did? What crowd did he want to attract and how do those spectators compare to what our notions of them would be? How did this venerated structure meet the times it evolved from? These are questions that Russell Field (Associate Professor, Faculty of Kinesiology and Recreation Management, the University of Manitoba) examines in A Night at the Gardens: Class, Gender, and Respectability in 1930s Toronto. Explore the origin and early days of Maple Leaf Gardens through an academic lense. 

Raine and Duncan from Our Lady Peace join iHeartRadio's Josie Dye to talk about THIRTY Years of music - New Music and a whole new OLP Sound? Our Lady Peace talk about working with Nick Raskulinecz, harnessing a great ROCK sound in the record, and their best and worst moments in the band - including selling out Maple Leaf Gardens and Opening for Van Halen! Raine Maida talks about how he met his wife, the lovely Chantal Kreviazuk, and their incredible journey together!

Toronto Maple Leafs legend Inge Hammarström connects from the South of France to talk about being discovered [with Borje Salming] by Leafs scout Gerry McNamara, leaving Sweden to join the Leafs lineup in 1973, their first practice at Maple Leaf Gardens in front of owner Harold Ballard [shooting on a 50 year old Johnny Bower!], Bobby Orr wishing them well while others were literally threatening to kill them on the ice [and taking slapshots at their unprotected calves from behind], great times with Darryl Sittler/Tiger Williams/Mike Palmateer/Lanny McDonald, his sadness at Borje Salming's passing from ALS in 2022, the very handsome actor that played him in the Borje docu-series, his surprisingly good relationship with Harold Ballard off the ice, and how his good scouting instincts led him to highly recommend drafting Peter Forsberg [and Jaromir Jagr]! TORONTO LEGENDS is hosted by Andrew Applebaum at andrew.applebaum@gmail.com All episodes available at https://www.torontolegends.ca/episodes/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Glass Tiger's Sam Reid talks about how Tokyo became Glass Tiger after opening for Boy George & Culture Club at Maple Leaf Gardens, teaming up with Bryan Adams' songwriting partner Jim Vallance, shooting TWO videos for Don't Forget Me, opening on monster tours for Journey and Tina Turner, interesting Juno and Grammy ceremony experiences, giving Sir Rod Stewart vocal suggestions, getting dissed by Roger Hornsby and mistaken for David Hasselhoff, collaborating with Rik Emmett, and why almost 40 years later every day is still a great Glass Tiger Day!   On November 30th Glass Tiger plays the intimate Richmond Hill Centre for the Performing Arts! All info is at https://bit.ly/GlassTiger-RHCPA For everything Glass Tiger, please visit https://glasstiger.ca/ TORONTO LEGENDS is hosted by Andrew Applebaum at andrew.applebaum@gmail.com All episodes available at https://www.torontolegends.ca/episodes/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this 1440th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike chats with Bob Stellick about how he ended up director of business operations and communications, and the director of public relations for the Toronto Maple Leafs, Harold Ballard, Maple Leaf Gardens, his brother Gord and what he's been up to since leaving the Toronto Maple Leafs. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, The Advantaged Investor podcast from Raymond James Canada and Electronic Products Recycling Association. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at mike@torontomike.com

Host Alex Pierson speaks with Hersh Borenstein, auction organizer, his memorabilia firm 'Borenstein's Frozen Pond' ran the Maple Leaf Gardens auction in 2012. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this podcast episode, Simon Nantais talks to Russell Field about his book, A Night at the Gardens: Class, Gender, and Respectability in 1930s Toronto, published by University of Toronto Press in 2023. In A Night at the Gardens, Russell Field delves into the history of Toronto's Maple Leaf Gardens and the social mores and norms that influenced both its architecture and operation. Drawing on archival records, the book explores the neighbourhood in which Maple Leaf Gardens was situated, the design of the arena's interior spaces, and the ways in which the venue was operated in order to appeal to respectable spectators at a particular intersection of class and gender. Oral history interviews with former spectators at Maple Leaf Gardens detail the experience of watching the spectacle that unfolded on the ice during each hockey game. Russell Field is an associate professor in the Faculty of Kinesiology and Recreation Management at the University of Manitoba, where his focus the socio-cultural study of sport and physical activity. His work includes examinations of global sporting events as sites of resistance and protest, and serves to broaden our understanding of the lived experience of sport within societal contexts. Image Credit: Canada. Department of Manpower and Immigration. Library and Archives Canada, e010996348 / If you like our work, please consider supporting it: bit.ly/support_WTY. Your support contributes to the Champlain Society's mission of opening new windows to directly explore and experience Canada's past.

Robert Lindsy Milne is recognized across the continent as one of the most insightful Psychic Intuitive Counselors of his time. He has traveled the world giving insight with his Psychic Intuitive Sessions to tens of thousands of people.Robert Lindsy Milne - "For as long as I can remember I have sensed things. At first feelings and vibrations in my immediate surroundings. As I grew older I was able to perceive and sense real and identifiable energy and vibrations from the people I encountered.By the time I was 9 years old I discovered my life's calling. I didn't know what it would be called, but I knew what I was going to do.My father was a big Toronto Maple Leafs fan and like all red-blooded Canadian boys I wanted to be just like my dad. My dad wanted me to have the opportunity he missed. He wanted to play in the NHL.We often went to the Toronto Leafs games. One Thursday night in March of 1958, Toronto and Boston were in the Stanley Cup semi-finals. The series was tied at a game each and the score of the game was 1-1 at the end of the 3rd period.When the teams came on the ice for the first overtime period, I was immediately drawn to number 17 Gary Eiman… I knew he was going to score. It was so real to me, I jumped up and started cheering… In my mind the Leafs had won the game. The biggest problem was the game hadn't started! I was yelling and cheering. Unbeknownst to me, the building was silent but for my cheers.My father put his hand on my shoulder and said, “Settle down.” It was then I realized nobody, not even Garry Eiman knew he was going to score.It was at that moment in time, a light turned on…”Other People Think Differently Than Me”The referee dropped the puck. The first overtime period began. A few minutes later number 17 hopped over the boards on to the ice, the puck was passed to him and all of Maple Leaf Gardens erupted with cheers for their winning team… Garry Eiman had scored the winning overtime goal.I sat in awe and wonderment. My life had changed with the drop of a puck. 18,000 people were cheering, light bulbs flashing all around me…it was ( to the awareness of a 9 year old) welcoming me to my life's calling.As I entered my teen years I began sensing clearer images and ideas. I started to practice using my senses and abilities every day. My awareness became broader.From that time until this, I have continuously strived to be the best I can be. To grow and develop into the man I am proud to be.Expanding my psychic senses to the best they can be; to perform my talent, giving service to humankind is my life's calling.I've been a professional psychic for my entire work life. Performing psychic readings has been my purpose. There have been short periods where I have worked at other jobs, but never longer than a few months.I started doing readings as a career at “The Cozy Tea Room” in Toronto in the mid 1960s. At the time, the type of work, the way it was done, the standards of the environment where it was done, was hardly recognized as a job let alone a career.Regardless of the way it was done, the standards of our work, the old and faded environment we did it in or the level of respect we received, it provided the opportunity to do psychic readings for thousands of people from diverse backgrounds. Some days at “The Cozy” I would see up to 30 people.I knew the Cozy Tea Room was only the beginning of my career. I was bright enough to recognize the incredible learning opportunity the Cozy Tea Room gave me.I soaked it up like a sponge.I have the work ethic of a plough horse and an inherited Scottish tenacity also known as stubbornness. I practiced my craft and honed my raw psychic ability. I developed a discipline, focus and most importantly I had the chance to do 100s of psychic readings a month.I became known as the Hippy Reader. I was the youngest reader in the city, probably in the country and not yet 20 years old. People came from all around to have a reading from me. I was one of the Cozy Tea Rooms most popular readers (and one of biggest earners I might add)It wasn't all rainbows and roses at The Cozy. I was Mrs. Cox, the owner's problem child too. There were many, good readers at The Cozy Tea, but few got out of the tea rooms.The Cozy Tea Room's business was to sell “The Telling of Fortunes”. However, there was a Witchcraft Act in the Canadian Criminal Code, Section 326, and in its essence it states “Fortune Telling” for money is against the law!Mrs. Cox, by-passed the law by selling sandwiches, a couple of cookies, a pot of tea and the Fortune Telling was, as the sign on the wall said, “For Entertainment Only”.Thinking back on it now, I laugh. Imagine the Cozy Tea Room being busted by the Vice Squad, taking us all out in hand cuffs for reading tea leaves. I can, in my minds eye, see Mrs. Cox, Pearl the waitress, and all the psychic readers in handcuffs along with the little old ladies who dropped by to get their “fortunes told” being charged with “found in”. What would they have taken as evidence I wonder? The used tea leaves?When a customer placed their order for tea, they also picked their reader. Many a day, I came to work, and there was a line up of 10 or 12 people waiting to get a reading from the shoeless long haired “Hippy Reader” also known as Bob Milne."This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4858435/advertisement

Grenade Episode #101 covering NOVEMBER 1987 in the WWF featuring tons of News & Results! First, we tackle the latest WWF news including... The PPV War between the WWF's Survivor Series and the NWA's Starrcade event. Killer Khan abruptly retires. "Cowboy" Bob Orton arrested and Fired, the Billy Jack Haynes plane incident where he nearly dies, Sika the Samoan Fired and then Rehired, Ted Dibiase's Injury, Ivan Putski finishes up, The Conquistadors Debut, The Dream Team split, Sgt. Slaughter looking for employment, The Slammy Awards are coming, and so much more! From there, I'll look into WWF Results for the month of November with stacked cards featuring IC Champ Honky Tonk Man vs. "Macho Man" Savage, Rick Rude vs. Paul Orndorff, Hacksaw Duggan vs. Harley Race, Tag Champs Strike Force vs. Islanders, Hart Foundation vs. British Bulldogs, Bam Bam Bigelow vs. King Kong Bundy, WWF Champion Hulk Hogan faces the likes of Killer Khan, One Man Gang, and The Million Dollar Man. Superstar Graham finishes up his in-ring career vs. Butch Reed. VIRGIL in action vs. JYD. Plus, ladies action with Sensational Sherri vs. Debbie Combs & The Jumping Bomb Angels challenge The Glamour Girls. Tons of great WWF action covering the likes of New York's Madison Square Garden, The Philadelphia Spectrum, Boston Garden, Chicago's Rosemont Horizon, Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto, The Silverdome in Michigan, Hartford Civic Center, Montreal Forum, Calgary Saddledome, Los Angeles Sports Arena, Sam Houston Coliseum, Oakland Coliseum, The Meadowlands, Nassau Coliseum, & so many more!  Available everywhere your Podcast Streaming needs are met.Visit our Podcast Network https://wrestlecopia.comFollow us on Twitter @RasslinGrenadeFollow and LIKE our FACEBOOK PAGE located at https://www.facebook.com/RasslinGrenadeSubscribe to our Youtube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/RasslinGrenade as we continue to add new videos from throughout wrestling history.Please Subscribe to our Patreon to help pay the bills, https://www.patreon.com/wrestlecopiaIncludes a $5 “All Access” Tier featuring our Patreon Exclusive Watch-Along Series, our insanely detailed show notes (for the Grenade, Monday Warfare & Regional Rasslin), Early Show Releases, REMASTERED editions of the early Grenade episodes including NEW content that was originally edited out! PLUS, monthly DIGITAL DOWNLOADS for your viewing and reading pleasure!Listen at your leisure and pick back up later if need be!Grenade Episode #101 covering NOVEMBER 1987 in the WWF featuring tons of news & results! First, we tackle the latest WWF news including... The PPV War between the WWF's Survivor Series and the NWA's annual Starrcade event. Killer Khan abruptly retires. "Cowboy" Bob Orton arrested and Fired, the Billy Jack Haynes plane incident where he nearly dies, Sika the Samoan Fired and then Rehired, Ted Dibiase's Injury, Ivan Putski finishes up, The Conquistadors Debut, The Dream Team split, Sgt. Slaughter looking for employment, The Slammy Awards are coming, and more!From there, I'll look into WWF Results for the month of November with stacked cards featuring IC Champ Honky Tonk Man vs. "Macho Man" Savage, Rick Rude vs. Paul Orndorff, Hacksaw Duggan vs. Harley Race, Tag Champs Strike Force vs. Islanders, Hart Foundation vs. British Bulldogs, Bam Bam Bigelow vs. King Kong Bundy, WWF Champion Hulk Hogan faces the likes of Killer Khan, One Man Gang, and The Million Dollar Man. Superstar Graham finishes up his in-ring career vs. Butch Reed. VIRGIL in action vs. JYD. Plus, ladies action with Sensational Sherri vs. Debbie Combs & The Jumping Bomb Angels challenge The Glamour Girls. Tons of great WWF action covering the likes of New York's Madison Square Garden, The Philadelphia Spectrum, Boston Garden, Chicago's Rosemont Horizon, Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto, The Silverdome in Michigan, Hartford Civic Center, Montreal Forum, Calgary Saddledome, Los Angeles Sports Arena, Sam Houston Coliseum, Oakland Coliseum, The Meadowlands, Nassau Coliseum, & so many more! ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

[A summer vacation re-release of a fan favorite episode from January 2020!] The Buffalo Braves were one of three NBA expansion franchises (along with the Portland Trail Blazers and Cleveland Cavaliers) that began play in the 1970–71 season.  Originally owned by a wobbly investment firm with few ties to Buffalo, the Braves eventually found a local backer in Freezer Queen founder Paul Snyder – who, by the end of the first season, had inherited a team that was neither good (penultimate league records of 22-60 in each of its first two seasons), nor easy to schedule (third-choice dates for Buffalo's venerable Memorial Auditorium behind the also-new NHL hockey Buffalo Sabres, and Canisius Golden Griffins college basketball). Snyder addressed the Braves' on-court issues by luring head coach Dr. Jack Ramsey from the Philadelphia 76ers, while drafting key players like high-scoring (and later Naismith Basketball Hall-of-Famer) Bob McAdoo, eventual NBA Rookie of the Year Ernie DiGregorio, and local (via Buffalo State) crowd favorite Randy Smith – yielding three consecutive playoff appearances from 1973-74 to 1975-76. Off the court, Snyder looked to regionalize the team's appeal beyond “The Aud” by scheduling select home games in places like Rochester, Syracuse and even Toronto's Maple Leaf Gardens – and team attendance, TV ratings and revenues achieved league-average levels. By the summer of 1976, however, Snyder was facing severe pressure to sell the team and get it out of “The City of Good Neighbors.”  Of particular consternation was Canisius president Fr. James Demske, who publicly thwarted the Braves' attempts at decent home dates – which angered the NBA enough to force the issue with Snyder.  Snyder, who said he was losing money anyway, threatened to move the Braves to suburban Miami's Hollywood Sportatorium, a deal that collapsed after the city of Buffalo sued and secured a new 15-year Aud lease – with a provision it could be broken if the team didn't sell 5,000 season tickets in any future season.   Author and Western New York native Tim Wendel (Buffalo, Home of the Braves) joins the pod to discuss the convoluted story of what happened next, including: Snyder's ownership sales to former ABA owner (and eventual Kentucky governor) John Y. Brown and businessman Harry Mangurian; The subsequent dismantling of the team and overt attempts to drive down attendance to break the Aud lease; The two-season coaching and player carousel that followed – including the curious six-minute career of Moses Malone; AND How the Braves' eventual move in 1978 to become the San Diego Clippers wouldn't have happened without the Boston Celtics. + + + BUY/READ EARLY & OFTEN: "Buffalo, Home of the Braves" (2009)   FIND & FOLLOW: Website: https://goodseatsstillavailable.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/GoodSeatsStill Instagram (+ Threads): https://www.instagram.com/goodseatsstillavailable/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GoodSeatsStillAvailable/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@goodseatsstillavailable

Alexandra Evans joins us this week for an in person interview. Alex started her hospitality career over four decades ago in her teenage years working at a French café a few blocks from where she grew up in midtown Toronto. A few years later, Alex lied her way into a waitressing job at Toby's Goodeats - very popular burger chain in Toronto in the 1980's. Alex loved the late nights and fast cash and fast cameraderie that comes with working in the industry. Alex moved into Management at Toby's and in the early 90's joined the team at O'Tooles on Carlton St across from Maple Leaf Gardens and stayed for 3 years. Alex eventually moved on to work at a French bistro - Le Paradis - for over 12 years, then soon after got bitten by the wine bug. Alex started a wine class in 1999 that morphed into a Sommelier diploma by 2004. That diploma opened the door to a management job at Boba restaurant on Avenue Road then Celestin on Mount Pleasant. That in turn opened a bigger door to Scaramouche restaurant where she stayed for 10 years as Maitre d', Sommelier and server. Eventually, Alex retired from serving in 2019. Alex and her partner moved to Stratford Ontario in the summer of 2021 and started teaching wine and service at the Stratford Chefs School where she enjoys passing the torch to the younger generation. In March of 2022 Alex started working for Nicholas Pearce Wines as their sales representative for South West Ontario where she gets to interact and keep her foot in the door of the hospitality industry and be in bed by 10pm….. In Alex's own words "It's been a great gig!" Links npwines.com @sugarrunbar @babylonsistersbar @argyle_arms_2023 @the_industry_podcast email us:  info@theindustrypodcast.club Podcast Artwork by Zak Hannah zakhannah.co

Grenade Episode #97 covering OCTOBER 1987 in the WWF featuring tons of news & results! First, we tackle the latest WWF news including... Ted Dibiase Injured, Jake Roberts back from Suspension, Dynamite Kid returns from injury, Greg Valentine leaving for JCP(?), ROADBLOCK shoot attacks The One Man Gang, Ricky Steamboat returns, the WWF's first European Tour, The Dingo Warrior becomes ULTIMATE, Nick Bockwinkel defects from the AWA, The Bolsheviks Debut, & more!From there, I'll look into WWF Results for the month of October covering MSG, The Spectrum, Maple Leaf Gardens, Boston Garden, The Montreal Forum, The Meadowlands, Cap Center, Los Angeles Sports Arena, Cow Palace, Winnipeg Arena, THE SILVERDOME, and more! Featuring the brief return of The Iron Sheik, Rick Rude vs. Paul Orndorff, Butch Reed vs. Superstar Graham in a STEEL CAGE, Strike Force vs. Islanders, Bigelow vs. Bundy, Macho Man vs. Honky Tonk, Hulk Hogan vs. One Man Gang, HEEL Dan Spivey, Sika gets a haircut courtesy of the Barber, third times a charm for Danny Davis vs. Sam Houston, The Shadows finish up, Women's Champions - The Sensational Sherri & The Glamour Girls defend their titles, the WWF invades France & Italy, plus so much more!Available everywhere your Podcast Streaming needs are met.Visit our Podcast Network https://wrestlecopia.comFollow us on Twitter @RasslinGrenadeFollow and LIKE our FACEBOOK PAGE located at https://www.facebook.com/RasslinGrenadeSubscribe to our Youtube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/RasslinGrenade as we continue to add new videos from throughout wrestling history.Please Subscribe to our Patreon to help pay the bills, https://www.patreon.com/wrestlecopiaIncludes a $5 “All Access” Tier featuring our Patreon Exclusive Watch-Along Series, our insanely detailed show notes (for the Grenade, Monday Warfare & Regional Rasslin), Early Show Releases, REMASTERED editions of the early Grenade episodes including NEW content that was originally edited out! PLUS, monthly DIGITAL DOWNLOADS for your viewing and reading pleasure!Listen at your leisure and pick back up later if need be!Grenade Episode #97 covering OCTOBER 1987 in the WWF featuring tons of news & results! First, we tackle the latest WWF news including...  Ted Dibiase Injured, Jake Roberts back from Suspension, Dynamite Kid returns from injury, Greg Valentine leaving for JCP(?), Ricky Steamboat returns, the WWF's first European Tour, The Dingo Warrior becomes ULTIMATE, Nick Bockwinkel defects from the AWA, The Bolsheviks Debut, ROADBLOCK shoot attacks The One Man Gang, & more!From there, I'll look into WWF Results for the month of October covering MSG, The Spectrum, Maple Leaf Gardens, Boston Garden, The Montreal Forum, The Meadowlands, Cap Center, Los Angeles Sports Arena, Cow Palace, Winnipeg Arena, THE SILVERDOME, and more! Featuring the brief return of The Iron Sheik, Rick Rude vs. Paul Orndorff, Butch Reed vs. Superstar Graham in a STEEL CAGE, Strike Force vs. Islanders, Bigelow vs. Bundy, Macho Man vs. Honky Tonk, Hulk Hogan vs. One Man Gang, HEEL Dan Spivey, Sika gets a haircut courtesy of the Barber, third times a charm for Danny Davis vs. Sam Houston, The Shadows finish up, Women's Champions - The Sensational Sherri & The Glamour Girls defend their titles, & so much more! ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

It's Grenade Episode #93 covering SEPTEMBER 1987 in the WWF featuring tons of news, results, and soundbites! First, we tackle the latest WWF news including...  Talk of the First-Ever Royal Rumble, Hacksaw Duggan Returns, the Patera/Saito Civil Suit is settled, Jake Roberts suspended, King Kong Bundy gets a computer, the NY State Athletic Commission knows its role, Koko & Beefcake Injured, Ivan Putski coming back, the October SNME lineup, The Princess Bride, Richard Belzer sues Hulk Hogan, THE SURVIVOR SERIES VS. STARRCADE, & more!From there, I'll look into WWF Results for the month of September covering MSG, The Spectrum, Maple Leaf Gardens, Boston Garden, Nassau Coliseum, The Meadowlands, Richfield Coliseum, Los Angeles Sports Arena, and more! Featuring the 1987 King of the Ring Tournament, Hulk Hogan vs. One Man Gang, The Macho Man PINS IC Champion Honky Tonk Man, Tag Champs Hart Foundation vs. other heel teams like the New Dream Team & Demolition, Chavo Guerrero in the WWF ring, the return (and heel turn) of Dan Spivey, "Wrestlefest III" in Cincy, Strike Force vs. Islanders begins, Orndorff vs. The Heenan Family,Butch Reed vs. Superstar Graham, Davey Boy Smith in singles action vs. Hercules and Rick Rude, Ricky Steamboat sightings, Battle Royals, Cage Matches, Baron Von Raschke, Muraco vs. Orton, The Dingo Warrior, Sensational Sherri, 6-Man Midget action, & so much more!Available everywhere your Podcast Streaming needs are met.Visit our Podcast Network https://wrestlecopia.comFollow us on Twitter @RasslinGrenadeFollow and LIKE our FACEBOOK PAGE located at https://www.facebook.com/RasslinGrenadeSubscribe to our Youtube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/RasslinGrenade as we continue to add new videos from throughout wrestling history.Please Subscribe to our REVAMPED Patreon account to help keep us going, multiple Tiers to choose from!!! https://www.patreon.com/wrestlecopiaIncludes a $5 “All Access” Tier featuring all of Ray Russell's insanely detailed show notes (for the Grenade, Monday Warfare, & Regional Rasslin'), Early Show Releases, REMASTERED editions of the early Grenade episodes including NEW content that was originally edited out! PLUS, monthly DIGITAL DOWLOANDS for your viewing and reading pleasure, and the Patreon Exclusive Watch-Along Series covering past PPVs, Coliseum Videos, SNME's, Clash of the Champions, and more!Listen at your leisure and pick back up later if need be!It's Grenade Episode #93 covering SEPTEMBER 1987 in the WWF featuring tons of news, results, and soundbites! First, we tackle the latest WWF news including...  Talk of the First Ever Royal Rumble, Hacksaw Duggan Returns, the Patera/Saito Civil Suit is settled, Jake Roberts suspended, King Kong Bundy gets a computer, the NY State Athletic Commission knows its role, Koko & Beefcake Injured, Ivan Putski coming back, the October SNME lineup, The Princess Bride, Richard Belzer sues Hulk Hogan, SURVIVOR SERIES VS. STARRCADE, & more!From there, I'll look into WWF Results for the month of September covering MSG, The Spectrum, Maple Leaf Gardens, Sam Houston Coliseum, Boston Garden, Nassau Coliseum, The Meadowlands, Richfield Coliseum, Los Angeles Sports Arena, and more! Featuring the 1987 King of the Ring Tournament, Hulk Hogan vs. One Man Gang, The Macho Man PINS IC Champion Honky Tonk Man, Tag Champs Hart Foundation vs. other heel teams like the New Dream Team & Demolition, Chavo Guerrero in the WWF ring, the return (and heel turn) of Dan Spivey, "Wrestlefest III" in Cincy, Strike Force vs. Islanders begins, Orndorff vs. The Heenan Family,Butch Reed vs. Superstar Graham, Davey Boy Smith in singles action vs. Hercules and Rick Rude, Ricky Steamboat sightings, Battle Royals, Cage Matches, Baron Von Raschke, Muraco vs. Orton, The Dingo Warrior, Sensational Sherri, 6-Man Midget action, & so much more! ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Get ready for a deep dive into the Tragically Hip's iconic 1992 album Fully Completely with hosts JD, Pete, and Tim as we explore the evolution of the band's sound, the polished production, and how it aimed for mainstream success. Share in our personal listening experiences and how this album resonated with us in different ways, from car rides to gym sessions.Join our lively conversation as we analyze standout tracks and Gord Downie's lyrical brilliance, including the catchy chorus of "Courage for Hugh MacLennan" and the various definitions of courage presented throughout the song. Discover the numerous Canadian references sprinkled across the album that give it a distinct cultural flavour, as well as discussing the impact of these songs on a personal level.Whether you're a longtime fan of the Tragically Hip or just discovering their music, this engaging and insightful episode is a must-listen. Don't miss our in-depth discussion of Fully Completely, as we explore the band's attempt to make their sound more mainstream, the slick production of the album, and the car and computer time that really made this album come alive. Tune in now and become a part of our musical journey!Transcript0:00:01 - Speaker 1When I think back to the fall of 92, everything was coming up JD. I was dating a real-life girl who also liked the hip. I was elected class president with my friend Tim under the efficiently executed two is better than one campaign, and I got a new hip record. While I love student government, the main thing the election provided me was an office in the high school for the student council, which acted as my locker and my rehearsal space for jamming the new hip album with my buddies Kirby and Dean. There was rarely a day that passed that someone wouldn't stop by for a version of pigeon camera locked in the trunk of a car, or courage. It was great fun and an experience I'll definitely never forget. Fully completely is what I call the last record of the early era, where the hip sound is more or less matured and they're writing an embarrassing number of stone-cold classics. The idea that the production keeps getting tighter and more precise sounding is worth noting as well. Working with the late Chris Tegeritas, the boys locked in on the task at hand, even if it wasn't their favorite recording experience, and they delivered MCA, an album brimming with singles and sing-along courses. This was a band that knew its groove and walked with a comfortable stride inside of it. Simply put, fully, completely is a rock and roll record at its finest Bar none. I'm actually feeling really excited for Pete Tim on this one. Their first experience outside of this project would have likely involved listening to this record as some kind of jumping off point, but that's not how we chose to do this. This is one album and episode, one chance to make an impression. Will this record stand up to the scrutiny that our protagonist will most certainly have for anything this anticipated? Let's find out. On this episode of Getting Hip to the Hip. Long-sliced brewery presents Getting Hip to the Hip. Hey, it's Jay Dee here, and welcome to Getting Hip to the Hip, a weekly podcast about the tragically hip and getting to hear their music for the first time through the ears of my friends, pete and Tim, who are here with me as always Pete from Malaga, making his way to us via LA this week, and, of course, Tim from Portland. Being from Portland, as it were, i'm excited, frankly, from a logistics standpoint, that we only had to deal with two time zones this week. That makes my job a lot easier, but I'm curious how are you fuckers doing? 0:02:51 - Speaker 3Doing great, doing good. It's well. It's, you know, december in Portland and we have a freeze happening, so we're hunkered down. It's a good day to be podcasting. 0:03:03 - Speaker 1Sounds good. 0:03:05 - Speaker 4It's snowing there, i take it. 0:03:06 - Speaker 3Almost. 0:03:07 - Speaker 4Okay. 0:03:08 - Speaker 3Almost. 0:03:09 - Speaker 4I'm dragging ass, man. I woke up around quarter to four this morning. I've gotten about four hours of sleep in the last. I want to say 36 hours. Yeah, so the jet lags hit me hard. Nine hour time difference sucks, but it is what it is for the hip anything. 0:03:33 - Speaker 1Holiday travel, man Everything. 0:03:36 - Speaker 4Fully and completely for the hip. 0:03:38 - Speaker 1Well, that's what we're talking about today. We're talking about the October 6th 1992 release produced by Chris Sanjiris. It's a 46 minute long CD at this point because that's where still around but it was a CD. It included singles, six singles, and it was rated 4.5 out of 5 by all music. So that's a great score and there's some good background information there. But I'm curious if you want to just get right into it and tell me how you experience the album. 0:04:14 - Speaker 3I like the evolution. This really helped me with where the albums have gone thus far, just having fully, completely be be where it's at in our, in our process, definitely. 0:04:31 - Speaker 4I mean, i agree with Tim the evolution I love. I clearly see this going somewhere. It's strange. I think I don't want to put the car before the horse but you do it, don't? 0:04:44 - Speaker 1you put that car as a horse. 0:04:45 - Speaker 4No, but I feel like this record may be the dark horse If we're going to stick with the equestrian analogies in that of the four records was the fourth one. We've fourth one. Yeah, i feel like this is my least favorite, although I do have some great notes on it. But there's so many album songs, artists over the years I've disliked at first and they end up being my favorites Interesting. Oh. Yeah, i've talked with you about a few things like that before, jd, but yeah, i feel like this might be the one. This might be the one. So, we'll see. 0:05:28 - Speaker 3You know, conversely, for me this one, like right out the gate, was the winner of what we've listened to so far And I went into the mindset of okay 1992, what was happening in my life when I got a new album and it usually was going straight in the car, you know, straight from the record store in the car. So I just had this one mostly in the car all week. I listened to it at the gym a little bit, but it was mostly car time didn't take notes until recently on any of it and just kind of jammed out to it. There's, you know, as expected, there's definitely some I like more than others, but of course I was, i was digging it. 0:06:11 - Speaker 1This to me was the band really trying to go over the top in terms of landing mainstream appeal. To me, that's what this record is always This record is. This record is that sound that they've been working on the last two records, that that bar sound. You know that that really tight and nifty blues, bass guitar sound, and this is just a really well produced version of that really slick. It's a slick sounding album and they haven't sounded slick up until this point. So to me, i've always thought of it as a record that was was trying to shoot for them, shoot for the moon. So I'm real surprised to hear you know Pete's analysis off the bat. Did you listen to in your car? because I do know that you have a premium audio sound system. 0:07:10 - Speaker 4I mentioned that and you've experienced it. I did listen to in my car and there were, there were tracks that really stood out that I really did like I don't want to say I didn't like this record, but there were tracks that really stood out and, like I said, i'm really glad I didn't listen to it on the plane, because associating this record with you know, a 12-hour flight after you've been at the airport for seven hours because they delayed your flight, would have, just you know, i probably just wouldn't have shown up today. I would have just texted you guys and said you're on your own, you know. So yeah, but it's. I mean computer time and car time was what was, what did it for me, this one. 0:07:52 - Speaker 1Alright. Well, do we want to get into the songs? Let's do it Alright. The first song is called Courage for Hugh MacLennan. 0:07:58 - Speaker 4I am Okay, bring up notes. So obviously I'm. I'm doing research on Hugh MacLennan and who he was because I want to know what the history of that is. The chorus is just catchy as fuck. It is just it, just it, just I don't know. It feels like there's a change of tempo, but it's not. But the lyrics just make it so sweet. The squeaky backup vocals that you said were going to eventually make their way in there. It would be the staple of, i believe, the bass player. 0:08:38 - Speaker 1The rhythm guitarist, rhythm guitar player. Yeah, all along. 0:08:42 - Speaker 4Those are all over this record. And then, kind of looking at the lyrics, which I did a lot more lyrical analysis for this record than others His Gord's definition of courage as opposed to MacLennan's definition was something that I really haven't pieced together yet, but I dug it. I yeah, i'll talk about more because I think this record is thematic in that sense because there's just a lot of Canadian references. Obviously There are, oh a ton. What about you, tim? 0:09:16 - Speaker 3Yeah, I was excited right out of the gate. Playing this song in the car I thought, okay, song number one for this album. If you know I'm a fan, starting at the beginning of this band or just really even coming into this album. This first song is a great first track of an album. The tempo is good, you know it's, it's singable parts. you know it's just a good, simple rocking tune and just as far as. Yeah, i had no idea who Hugh McLennan is or was. You know that looked him up and definitely feel like I need to read at least one of his books. So probably get a suggestion from you, mr JD. But you know it's this song about consequences and facing the light or the dark. You know it's just, it's a great, a great kickoff for the album. I loved it. 0:10:13 - Speaker 1This to me has one of Gord Downey's absolute best turns of turns of phrase or lyrical works of art. You know, it's a feat of strength, almost what he does with the text of McLennan's work. It shouldn't be as effective as it is, but it is. It works so well and all he does is read the lyric into the melody. The lyrics are there's no simple explanation for anything important any of us do. And, yeah, the human tragedy consists in the necessity of living with the consequence under pressure, under pressure. But the way he phrases it and the way he the music in the background is building up, it's so powerful and so such a great bridge. And then, you're right, it goes up up against that banger of a chorus to outro the song. Really fucking strong, strong work. This is a karaoke staple of mine as well, so perfect, yeah you mentioned the phrasing. 0:11:22 - Speaker 4It's funny because I thought the same thing and I think I put in. It's ironic. I'm showing this. People can at home can't see it, but this is just sitting on a thing and I'm thinking about it because of amazing it's a copy of Life magazine with Sinatra on the front yeah, sorry, sinatra. So I think people like Sinatra, i definitely think other musicians from the 90s, but this puts him, this record put him lyrically in that category for great phrasing. Not many people. People can put lyrics to songs and it sounds cool and they can sing harmonies and melodies. But when you can phrase a song like you just said so well, it just makes the song so fucking cool, brings out the lyrics in the melody so much better yeah, i agree. 0:12:12 - Speaker 1so next up we go to a real interesting song. this is something that Gord would carry with him, especially in his later years, and that is like the crisis in Canada's north crisis with our Indigenous people, and this song takes a look at that. It's called Looking for a Place to Happen. 0:12:38 - Speaker 3I thought this one started off running, you know, felt really catchy, without knowing what the lyrics were or background or anything. It just starts off really well. But eventually I realized, okay, this is something about taking away or taking what's not yours. You know I hear guilt and sorrow in here. It's just full of emotion. So as I looked into it I realized what it was basically about It. Even I don't know it got me when I got to the end of the song I heard Gord kind of singing through the outro Like it doesn't it carries on into me. That resembled like something around the fact that the invasion just is continuing on. You know, the taking away is continuing on, the pain isn't going to end. You know this, this and I think he he harkens that so well in this song for what the content is It? just it kind of it kind of floored me. It felt like a lot. And you know their songs I'm experiencing over the course of this catalog is you know some of them? I feel like, oh, this must be fun in a bar. You know people buy. I love the song and some songs are like fuck me. You know this is heavy stuff that we all still need to deal with and think about and realize, and just such a, such an impactful band. 0:14:20 - Speaker 1Yeah, and as they got bigger, they, you know, they, they took that to heart. you know that they had that, they carried some clout and they used that, and you know to, to a really good degree. 0:14:33 - Speaker 3Well, even even some of their. You know, some of the lyrics and some of the storytelling is just very North American based. It's, you know, often very much Canada for sure, specifically. But it did, and also, you know, at times made me again think about what the fuck? why didn't they resonate more in the USA? because I identify with a ton of it. There's so much there, i think that crosses over. 0:14:58 - Speaker 1Yeah, borders. How did you feel about looking for a place to have a beat? 0:15:02 - Speaker 4It's funny because the the what I said before about this record being thematic and and very, very Canada, kind of picking up where Tim left off. In my research of the first song and my research of who Hugh MacLennan was, I remember his wife saying to him, because I think his first couple of books were like flops, like you need to write about what you know, write about Canada. And that book, the third book or whatever book, the his book that he finally wrote about Canada and what he knew, ended up being really, really successful. And I feel like the hip kind of played around with that. This first, their first few times out, their first two or three records, but this one is just all Canada And it's just it's Canada threw up on this record, And in a good way, Jacques Cartier is mentioned. Jacques Cartier is mentioned in there. So, yeah, i think it's. It's cool because for and Tim, maybe you can speak to this because as Americans, we get a, we get. We have this polite maple syrup, like I said, but LeBat blue version of who Canadians are and what Canada is free healthcare, marijuana, everything's great north of the border on the roof of the US. But I think only probably in the last six or seven years has it really entered the American consciousness of the plight of indigenous folks. And in Canada, in the north, i don't think it's something that, tim. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm just ignorant, but I feel like it's not something that's been talked about, at least in the mainstream for Americans until recently. 0:17:00 - Speaker 3I think you're right. I think you're right. We've we've definitely have talked about it more USA, regionally specific. 0:17:06 - Speaker 4But, but to know it was that this was being. 0:17:09 - Speaker 3This was in mainstream rock music in 1992 is cool, right, exactly, yeah, yeah, we weren't necessarily singing about that in 1992. 0:17:20 - Speaker 1Yeah, No, certainly we weren't here either other than other than through this. Yeah, and a lot of people. you know, for everybody that does like dive deep into the lyrics and and and wants to analyze you know what it all means that there is an equally large or maybe bigger cohort that is just wants to fucking dance to some music. you know, like they just want to rock out And they get to do that with our next song at the hundredth meridian, where the great planes begin. 0:17:51 - Speaker 3Ready Mark. 0:18:08 - Speaker 5Roll it And take my life with my hands Where the great planes begin, at the hundredth meridian, at the hundredth meridian, where the great planes begin, driving down a part of our road, we stand in a shoulder high. The road is crusted Of wind and dust. At the hundredth meridian, at the hundredth meridian, at the hundredth meridian, where the great planes begin, let alone the dead chapter, car and train hauntings. A generation's almost done with any of these great planes. King crashes with the wind and The greatest planes along the line of old road, car and train out of Mali outskirts. The world is so very cruel, but I've done the best thing. At the hundredth meridian, at the hundredth meridian, at the hundredth meridian, where the great planes begin, at the hundredth meridian, at the hundredth meridian, at the hundredth meridian, where the great planes begin, and remember. I remember above and low, and I remember a thing about, it seems to me I don't ever, ever say no to everything I know. I don't ever, ever say no to everything I know. I don't ever say no to everything I know. If I don't walk on the road, i've seen a promise. Maybe I'll need some place. I don't want to be a dead man. I'm a dead man, i have to transport. I can't say I'm on this sleep. I've borrowed the keys. I've been listening to some songs and the tracks. I don't want to be a low on the shoulder. I've been listening to some songs and the tracks. I don't want to be a low on the shoulder. At the hundredth meridian. At the hundredth meridian, where the great planes begin. At the hundredth meridian, at the hundredth meridian. At the hundredth meridian, where the great planes begin. When the planes begin, oh, Love this one. 0:21:05 - Speaker 3All things backups. Can we do karaoke with this one? 0:21:09 - Speaker 1This became a lot. Yeah, i would do karaoke this. This became a life staple, for sure as well. 0:21:13 - Speaker 3I'm sure, yeah, garbage red sheep, garbage red trees, whispers of disease driving down a corduroy road. I had to look up corduroy road. I was like what the hell is that? So that was a really interesting Find right there. What is it? What is it? references. You know Laying down logs along waterways so you can keep on your journey. You're basically walking down logged paths. So, yeah, that's that's what a corduroy road is. 0:21:44 - Speaker 4Pretty cool, no idea, no idea, i Dude this, this tune, i would probably say I probably say this tune is my favorite on the record. I think The the like the, the borderline wrap, that um, that that gordon He's doing, and it um just Fucking amazing. The the the guitar, wah, um is is nasty, um, i It fits though, right, it's, oh Yeah, totally more than more than past songs I've heard No absolutely the realizing the again Going back every song, i think there's a, there's a reference, a historical reference, that the hundredth murdering was the, the separation of the united states through between spain and france and later between the us and spain, after the louis excuse me, louisiana purchased from um france and then from uh, and then with the united states of mexico, like that historical reference of it. But this song is just, it's a fucking Banger. It is a banger, right, it is a banger, absolutely, absolutely. And there's, there's, by the way, um, um, this song Has that line you mentioned it, tim garbage bag trees. I think that is in the song before looking for a place to happen that same, there's another reference to garbage bag trees, and so jd, or anybody, give me a line on that garbage bag trees. 0:23:24 - Speaker 1I wish I had one to me. It just, it just reminds me of one of those old derelict areas where you see, like debris caught in the, the fences, you know that's been blown around, wind strewn. I picture, you know, like a garbage bag tree to be a plastic bag that is fastened itself into the tree And, uh, it just looks, you know, more depressing by seeing it but I don't know that's. That's just my thinking. If you've got an angle on this, send me an email. Jd at getting hip to the hip calm. 0:23:59 - Speaker 4Put to be, to put that in two songs in a row on a record got me something. 0:24:04 - Speaker 1Yeah, agreed. How about you, tim? What did you think of this one? Oh, i guess you already. You spoke first, didn't you? 0:24:11 - Speaker 3Yeah, i mean I dug it. I I thought, uh, overall I I felt the anger in here. There's so much self expression which you know they're definitely feeling. so many songs, um, i, i love the refer, the reference or the declaration of have right cooter, you're seeing it, my funeral, you know that's in just going back and listening to some Rai kooder songs, i mean there's a lot of influence there for the band and it's I dug it. It's a great song, great tune. 0:24:42 - Speaker 1Now, did you recognize that lyric from anything? No so the live version of highway girl He. He says that at one point He says get mr Rai kooder to sing my eulogy, all right, fun. And then boom, it shows up in this song, like two years later, like it was just a, it was just a throwaway phrase in a, in a story, in the middle of a song, and then it becomes, you know, this end of this epic rant, uh, end of this epic rap, rather, that he sort of does this, this rap piece. Yeah, i think it's fucking cool. They started using this song to jam out songs in the middle of as well, and then it would. It would always lead up to that, that part, that that bridge part. Now, all three of these songs that we've talked about so far Are singles. Courage was the third single, at the hundredth meridian was the fourth single, and looking for a place to happen was the fifth single. Well, so they're. The records got legs. I mean, they really tried to leg this one out and and see if anything would stick. The next song is our first album cut of the Of the fully, fully, completely record, and it's an interesting one as well, title wise. What the hell is the pigeon camera, pete? 0:26:04 - Speaker 4So it's um, i had to look this one up too. Um, i guess back in the day 1909, there was a scientist or an inventor who Who thought that strapping cameras with time delays on them to pigeons would be a great idea, and so They kind of took off for a little bit. I would love to see actual Photographs. I that's something I I didn't. 0:26:33 - Speaker 1Sit. The birds took or of the birds that the birds took. 0:26:36 - Speaker 4There's a lot of pictures of the birds with the camera strapped to them but that the birds took, um, they were going to do it for you know, military purposes, for reconnaissance, but then planes Came and they started being able to mount cameras on planes, so it kind of, you know, went by the wayside. But, um, yeah, this song I liked it. Um, it didn't do A ton for me, but the guitar solo was very redeeming. It, it, it, i this is going to sound really strange because it's well, obviously so many years left kind of very sublime feel the band, sublime from that guitar solo, the tone That the guitar that was being played or the notes that were being played. It just sounded like it was uh, it was a. It was a Soul taken from the band sublime, but I liked it. It worked. It was really cool. Well, you got Yeah whoo-foo fight. 0:27:35 - Speaker 3I did not go to sublime and That band just just makes me. It makes me cringe. I just Hear it and it's changed the station as fast as possible because I only ever hear it. When I'm in southern california driving around listening to the radio, some stations are playing that band, like I swear, every 17 minutes. Oh yeah, oh terrible. 0:27:57 - Speaker 4Anyway, it's against the law to play that at a bar in long Beach. Yeah, it's against the law. 0:28:03 - Speaker 3It should be. It should be. Yeah, they should sell the. Anyways, uh, pigeon camera, i, you know it's. I think it's a good Slot four slowdown It's. There's this kind of calm, serene guitar riffing in there. Um, it's. I guess there's a lot of references when you look up actual pigeon cameras and kind of dive deeper into that. As you touched on Pete, i did find, you know, as you said, pictures of pigeons with the cameras strapped on them and Kind of thought about what, what, what is that? and you know, carry, the carrying of information, the passing of secrets. You know the, the, i don't know. It just seemed like a wartime era thing. I wasn't really sure why This song was in there, conceptually, lyrically, everything you know there was. It was a head scratcher. But the coolest thing about it was finding out about fucking pigeon cameras, simply like I'm glad the songs there, because, dude, you got to look up pictures that they took. There's a few online And they're fucking incredible. Like there's portions of wings Surrounding a landscape, you know it's, it kind of worked, but who the hell knows, like when you got, when you develop this film and you're printing these old black and whites and seeing all this abstract shit, like You know it's. It's so bizarre and weird. Let's write a song about this Very fascinating thing, guys, like did you know that these pigeons to carry and take cameras or take pictures? Like what the fuck? why not write a song about it? 0:29:54 - Speaker 1So weird, yeah, fun song we go to another album track, and this is one called lion eyes. 0:30:01 - Speaker 3So this one in the car was Fun and so sing along. You know, it's like simple, easy to get along with. It's a rock song, it's a good jam, like I imagine people just belting this out at live shows, maybe even almost annoyingly. If you're ever go to shows and you hear people singing like a little too much, yeah, sure, bands love it when it happens and they can, yeah, i just this is just could be one of those songs. The the parts about When he sings From the cleftab low variant. You know these, these film references are really kind of that. That was all this added Kind of mysteriousness to me. the cold wind blowing over your private parts. I'm like, is that you know? I, i was really trying to driving around listen to this over and over Because it's so listenable. I'm trying to decipher, you know, heads or tails of it and couldn't, couldn't get much, but overall It's an easy song to consume. Yeah, storytelling wise, i wasn't so sure, but overall it was like man, this is a jammy, easy one for sure. 0:31:18 - Speaker 4It's funny you say that, tim, because it's for me, storytelling wise. I found it way more interesting. I mean, i like the tune, i Like the turnaround after the chorus on the bridges, wildly out of place, like I just It, just it. It shut my brain off for this song. I was like, oh cool, i'm into this bridge comes. I'm like what the fuck is this? Is this like the same band I'm listening to, but the the references to tableau we've on which I had to look up. I was like a nativity scene even. More or less, i would assume. And then the other one, romana, clef, oclef, all these French references in there seemed really cool. Like this is again Because I think musically I liked the other ones. They stuck to me much quicker. I did a lot more digging in the lyrics for this one. I really liked. I really liked All the lyrical references Reveal more as the songs go on. 0:32:27 - Speaker 1Yeah, it's pretty loaded, it's really loaded Yeah okay, so we go next to a pretty menacing song, and especially menacing when you consider this one was a single and And it's fucking tremendous. 0:33:15 - Speaker 5Some. The truck's gone. The wind overlanded a real rainbow, like a new much star, when you could see everything but a logical factor. But ten bucks in just to get the tank chopped Oh, dang it. I found a place to stop and infrared it. It's a truth. We had a place where the copters won't spot it And I destroyed the man. I never even thought I'd forgotten. However, every day I'm dumping my body. If they better for us, they don't understand. If they better for me, they don't understand. Oh, dang it. I found a place to stop and infrared it. It's a truth. We got a place where the copters won't spot it And I destroyed the man. I never even thought I'd forgotten. However, every day I'm dumping my body. If they better for us, they don't understand. If they better for us, they don't understand. If they better for me, they don't understand. Let me out. 0:36:43 - Speaker 4Let me out, let me out. 0:37:28 - Speaker 1Let me out. 0:37:53 - Speaker 4I just love it. The second solo is just like towards the end. It's so awesome and I'm gonna pull a tim from Portland right now. The fucking fade kills me. Like it's so fucking cool man. The guitar solo is so awesome. I'm just like just fucking end it, guys. And they fade it and I'm just like you motherfuckers I never noticed it before you said it's him and then I start listening to songs like these. Or I'm just eating up the guitar solo at the end, like it's fucking mac and cheese And they just take the plate away from me. Dude, it's like eating a mac and cheese. There's some on the plate and the waiter just comes by and fucking takes it and says Sorry, here's the check. 0:38:51 - Speaker 3I hate to say it, but these fade outs make me pissed on a couple of levels. I mean the song Courage. The very first time I heard it in the car it fades out. It's an okay fade out, though, but as I heard it fading out in the car, i cranked the volume all the way. So now get the last, as I wanted to finish the song, you know, and the other part of it that pisses me off, it makes me frustrated, is never having heard them play live. I mean, they didn't fade out songs live. So it's like I wish I could hear the song live and hear how they ended or see what happens. So that's, you know, that's a don't want to spend so much time on that, but yeah, i feel that this song is. It's so heavy, it's pretty gnarly. The lyrics are crazy, you know, the storytelling is very sinister, dark, dumping the body. Be better for us if you don't understand. And then you know, after diving into this one further, i read about the story about Caroline Case, which, judy, i'm sure you know, this Toronto mother of three whose car was found overturned and wrecked and the bodies didn't show up. And there's this whole story that ties in with the song. That's just amazing. It's just such a dark song. It's cool. I mean I appreciate the level of storytelling and kind of malice and all of those things with us. 0:40:38 - Speaker 1Yeah, it's really fascinating that they can go to these dark places. You know, the last couple records have been have been chock full. This one so far is a more lively, less dour sort of record, but we get our first taste of it here and, yeah, maybe it is better for us if we don't understand. 0:41:01 - Speaker 3Yeah, agreed, it's just dark on many levels, you know. But again, when I read the story about Caroline Case and that whole tragedy and mystery, it's like fuck, what Amazing bits of information to call together to create a song about. Pretty cool. 0:41:24 - Speaker 1They've all gone and will go too. 0:41:27 - Speaker 3I thought maybe this was about like the difficulties of being on the road and traveling and playing gigs, setting up, tearing down. You got this massive country to drive across zigzag. You know it's kind of a. To me it was kind of a filler song with a long ending. You know it has like a 30 second ending, which is a little unusual, so I didn't listen to this one. A whole lot, a whole lot of extra times. 0:42:00 - Speaker 1How about you Pete? 0:42:01 - Speaker 4I'm in a second-day emotion Smokey And I say the opening guitar lyric was interesting, although very 80s, 90s. You know they, somebody in that band loves John Cola from Huey Lewis in the news because that guitar tone is just, it keeps showing up, it just keeps showing up. I think I don't know that Alanis ever listened to much Huey Maybe she was a hip fan, but I a lot of her music too, that I listened to that. Those, what are they? it's like a univive or something that he's using on the guitar, just keeps showing up And it just sounds a little dated. Because I feel like back when people were using those effects, they didn't have anything cool to play on the guitar, they just had a cool effect. So like playing anything was like, hey, be impressed because I've got this amazing effect. I'm not playing shit on the guitar, but it's a cool effect, right? Right, guys, you know so. But yeah, the song all in all doesn't do a ton for me. So what about you, jd? I don't know. 0:43:19 - Speaker 1Well, i think it's fascinating that this is the first mention of production really that has been brought up. I mean, you've mentioned guitar tone a couple times. but yeah, it's a slick, it's a slickly produced record. This guy who produced it produces a lot of like metal And if you know about the production of metal, oftentimes it's got a real clean well, real clean and focused kind of sound, very precise, and I think we get a bit of that on this. I'd almost love to hear what this record would have sounded like with Don Smith producing it, who produced the last two. But we get a taste of that when we go into the next record and they start to self-produce and they start to. it's almost like this record. they go as far as they've ever went production wise, and then they go completely the opposite direction, you know, for the next swath of records, and go sort of back to basics. 0:44:30 - Speaker 4Feels formulae And that, like, like I heard on the first couple couple records, like I felt them like really trying to go into the space of of being obscure and trying their own shit. And then maybe the record label was like All right, guys, enough, your crap, we're going to get a fucking big time producer. And then he's gonna you guys are going to be staws. you know, like I don't know what the fuck they were thinking. I feel like this is kind of that, although it's a good record. But yeah, i hear you JD. 0:45:02 - Speaker 1You know, for many fans this is their favorite record, so it's it's. It's tough. It's tough to be objective about it. It's not my favorite record. I've got another one that's my favorite And we'll get into that soon, but I hear that I I could. 0:45:18 - Speaker 3You know it resembles a following an athlete who goes amateur to pro. Yeah, this, this felt like this album. You know I don't want to get into it as if we're ending, but I agree with that JD. 0:45:31 - Speaker 1Well, the next next track we get is the titular fully, completely. 0:45:37 - Speaker 3As a title track, accidentally listened to the song first, instead of the first track, you know, searched the album and this thing came up. And I was getting ready to drive, to sit in way and then realize it was the title track and I was not, i wasn't 100% sold, i wasn't a kind of questioned certain things about it as a title track. Or I heard, like Eddie Vedder and Pearl Jam in there, you know there's just it's this kind of never ending guitar riffing. If you listen to it really closely, there's a right channel tambourine happening. There's a total afterthought production thing. It's like, hey, let's just add in some tambourine, like it's there If you really listened closely and it's it's. That made me like the song more because it added this kind of fun element to it. But I I thought it was not the strongest for a title track. I thought it was just okay. 0:46:38 - Speaker 1This is our first title track we've ever got as well Right. Yeah, can I? 0:46:44 - Speaker 4ask you, JD, was this a single? 0:46:46 - Speaker 1This was. This was the last single on the record. 0:46:49 - Speaker 4Okay, because I I have the same Tim. You mentioned something about the tambourine. I think that's so funny, because I I felt the same way, of course, about the tambourine, but also the, a lot of the guitar licks. I feel like if the song was just raw, maybe, maybe, maybe Gord Downey stepped on the gas a little bit harder with the, with the vocals, it would have been a totally different sounding song, but I think it was recorded. And then afterward producers like Hey you, you guitar guy, come in here, throw some more licks down here. What do you want me to play? Just do something. 0:47:26 - Speaker 3Yeah, and it's like Hey, who's your friend over there in the corner? Can you play tambourine? Come on over here. 0:47:32 - Speaker 4You know, but like I, i yeah, i feel the same way. I couldn't like super get into it, but I thought the guitar solo at the end was a huge, was really like the slide all again, all the licks. In the beginning, like I didn't dig that, but the solo at the end was really big payoff And I could see how this song at a show. Jd, maybe I'm wrong, but I could see them taking this at a show and just fucking do a 15 minute version of it. 0:48:01 - Speaker 1That's what I was going to say. I was going to say this song was one that wasn't my favorite for a long time And then it grew on me And now I would say it's like a top three on this record for me. Live It just slayed Yeah. 0:48:15 - Speaker 3Just slayed Again, where I had the same sentiment, pete, where I just wished I could have heard this type of song live version, because you hear certain things when it's recorded and you wonder, like, why was it produced this way, or why was this thrown in, or why this or why that? And you know that there is a more raw version of this out there And it's like you got to get through the, the, the meal that's prepared for the pictured menu item, when you walk in the restaurant and you think, okay, that's, that's supposedly what I'm going to get, and then the live version is like nah, here's your fucking mess of a meal. It's going to taste the same way, but this is actually what it looks like. That's, that's, that's what I thought about this song. 0:49:02 - Speaker 4Tim, i couldn't, i would not to take it a step further, but I'm going to take this stuff further. It's like getting through a shitty Thanksgiving dinner because you want to go out drinking later And then and then, after you've been out drinking to like three or four in the morning, then you hit up Taco Bell or whatever it is, and that's where the that's where the real joy of eating comes in. And that late night meal is the fucking live version. It's 100%. We're at where I die on this one. 0:49:30 - Speaker 1All right. Next up, we go to 50 mission cap. 0:49:59 - Speaker 5The barilco disappeared that summer. He was on a fishing trip, the last goal he ever scored. They didn't win another 1962. I stole this from a car. I worked it in. I worked it in to look like that. It's my fifth mission. And I worked it in. I worked it in. I worked it in to look like that. The barilco disappeared that summer. He was on a fishing trip, the last goal he ever scored. They didn't win another 1962. I stole this from a car. I worked it in. I worked it in to look like that. It's my fifth mission. It's my fifth mission. It's my fifth mission. 0:53:45 - Speaker 3It's my fifth mission. I worked it in. 0:53:54 - Speaker 5I worked it in. I worked it in, i worked it in. 0:54:07 - Speaker 3I worked it in. I worked it in. I worked it in. I worked it in. I worked it in. I worked it in. I worked it in. I worked it in. I worked it in. 0:54:42 - Speaker 1I worked it in. I worked it in, i worked it in. 0:54:58 - Speaker 3I worked it in. I worked it in. I worked it in. I worked it in I worked it in. 0:55:17 - Speaker 1Basically, just put a melody to this hockey card, sentence or paragraph rather, and boom, there's the verse. You know it's crazy, like I've seen the card before. And then you get this brilliant anthemic chorus 50 mission cap. But even it is a little deeper than just a brainless chorus because it's a 50 mission cap. And then the next lyric is I worked it in, i worked it in to look like that. So is the protagonist here somebody that really truly is wearing their 50 mission cap, like with pride? or are they trying to sneak by, you know, to make somebody think that they've been in their 50 missions? I don't know like, but I fucking love thinking about it. How about you, Pete? 0:56:08 - Speaker 4Okay, so the lyrics certainly seemed like he was reading from something Clearly. yeah, that's what it was, and I don't know if that's a if. when he said JD, you mentioned like I made you think that or something. What was that You said a second ago about the lyrics? 0:56:27 - Speaker 1like Oh, I worked it in to look like that. 0:56:30 - Speaker 4I worked it in to look like that. Like maybe he's referencing people who you know. unfortunately there are those people who, who would wear a 50 mission cap and never, you know, completed a mission in their entire lives. you know those, those fakes. But the song wise is just, it's an amazing song Looking at who Bill Barilko was And ironically, his body wasn't found until the years that Leafs won the cup next. 0:57:04 - Speaker 1They found his body, and then the Leafs won it. 0:57:07 - Speaker 4It's almost like he was cursing it right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's yeah. Sorry, that's what I meant to say, sorry, no, no, no, it's so cool And I took a deep dive into this. You mentioned all the other stuff already about the amazing chorus. I love the squeaky back of vocals made an appearance again. The guitar lyric, or the guitar after the chorus, does this thing where it goes up and down by half steps and it's just so. It doesn't sound like it fits the song, but if it's the song perfectly, and Tim said this is clearly a hip song, because it is And it again might be my favorite on the record, but other stuff, that it's a staple at the home games when the Leafs are warming up, and also, what else did they say about it? Oh, that in the like the private lounge. I'm not a big hockey fan because I grew up in Southern California. You are Tim? No, i'm Tim Brown. Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, it just, it's just hard. But even though we had Wayne Gretzky, but that there's a, there's a handwritten lyrics signed by Gord Downey in the players lounge, it where the players hang out, and that Bill Barolko. Anyway, and when the when the hip would play the Canada Airlines Arena or whatever, they would leave up on Bill Barolko's jersey his number. 0:58:50 - Speaker 1Yeah, they were tired. 0:58:53 - Speaker 4But that was the only one they left up, like kind of when they, you know, change the arena for the hip show. From what I read, i don't know, but it was really cool just for that particular reference. It's what a song, fucking awesome song. 0:59:09 - Speaker 3Loved it. Loved it And it made me think about also, you know, kind of tying in with sports and war, like seeing your favorite team do so well and also knowing that they have fallen, or have you seeing them fall? There's just, there's a tone here that's like defeated but also like quit while you're ahead. I don't know. It's kind of a bit of a surrender thing. It's a great tune. I enjoyed it. 0:59:39 - Speaker 1Well, it's followed on the record by yet another tragically hip ballad slow song that you probably don't want to slow dance to once you find out what it's about, and that's weakings. 0:59:53 - Speaker 4You want to take it to him. 0:59:55 - Speaker 3I mean, it's a hell of a mood song, right? I think there's some banjo in there. Is that what I hear? Some? banjo Doe bro. Doe bro, some doe bro plucking. I maybe gave it three listens and, as not being a diehard hip fan, it's one of those placements in the album where I get it and get why it's there, but also just I move on. It's. There's a couple. There's some good lines in there. Can't be fond of living in the past, you're not going to last. It's like someone getting caught or being in the middle or guilty or jail time or yeah, it didn't, didn't move me. Oh Tim, oh Tim. It's probably Pete's favorite. 1:00:52 - Speaker 4I couldn't disagree with you more. I wouldn't say it's my favorite. I will say this song and this band continues to amaze me with its ability to just be super heavy and then go into these little acoustic tunes that they throw. I call this. You know, this is like when they're in the studio. They're like okay, this is going to be the acoustic song, but it reminded me of how great I felt when I listened to Fiddler's Green on Road Apples. 1:01:22 - Speaker 3I thought of the same. I thought of the same. 1:01:24 - Speaker 4Yep, had that vibe, yep, the intro with the sound effects and the animals and the birds, the bluegrass vibe. There's a line in there that I love is so good. I can't remember the first part. The second part is hung with pictures of our parents, prime ministers, as just such a fucking cool line, and I did some a little bit of research on what was going on with the reference of. You know they were watching the Held, their Breath or Whispers, and the CBC News, that's right About a guy named David Millard who was served like 21 years for a crime eating committee. You got it. It was like you know. There's a lot of that in the US justice system too. 1:02:19 - Speaker 1Oh, right Yeah. 1:02:20 - Speaker 4It just was such a cool fuck Like what. I don't know if the guy's still alive. I don't know if you heard the song when it came out, but what a fucking. 1:02:29 - Speaker 1Yeah, i mean coincidence, i think, is the word you're looking for. So this record comes out in 92 and in 91, millard and his people are granted the ability for a clearing of his name And it was 20 years that he was in prison for a rape that, a rape and murder that had occurred in 1969. So basically, the guy is born in 51. His almost his entire life is around this, this tragedy. Right And Gord took, you know, a simple acoustic guitar line and turned it into an epic story of the beginning of the exoneration of David Millard. 1:03:29 - Speaker 3So I hear the reasons why and I understand, i get it. I guess there's just for me, okay. I guess for me experiencing an album and thinking it as like a book, and you're going through the chapters and you know some, some chapters, you're like, oh man, i love where the character development is going And then all of a sudden you experience this, this downfall, this, this unfortunate event. You know, and it's the wild ride And I'm trying to. I honestly thought, okay, honestly thought Pete probably loves this song, fiddler screen, etc. Everything you said. You know why. Why is it that this is triggering for me personally, in the cadence of an album, to hear something like this and be like, come on, you guys, let's just get to more good jam and stuff. I don't know, maybe it's the time of year, maybe it's winter, maybe it's the holidays, which I like have a love hate for. This is just. This is just one of those tracks that I was waiting for in the album. It's like, okay, here we go. Who's this song about? That was fucking kind of real. What did he not do? 1:04:44 - Speaker 5What did he not? 1:04:45 - Speaker 3do? to go to jail? God damn it. Fucking injustices in the world, All these things. It's like fucking, another fucking ballad about God damn it. You know just, it's just like this emotional roller coaster. It's like, okay, what else we got, What are we moving into next? You know that's in the hip albums. To get to this type of song, I'm always like, okay, there's only a couple left. Where are these guys going to take me? 1:05:15 - Speaker 1And where do they take you next? 1:05:19 - Speaker 3Where with all? so where with all you know, you jump and straight into some jammy chords. The scene's pretty calm, i thought for kind of the guitar progression. The, the baseline, really hit me as like 80s metal, rat motley crew, maybe G&R. 1:05:43 - Speaker 4I. 1:05:46 - Speaker 3This song, JD the producer what you said. His name? Christiane Arias. 1:05:51 - Speaker 1Yeah, right, it's a Greek last name. 1:05:53 - Speaker 3He can ever say eat all over this one, i Guarantee it. You know so it's. I thought you know there's some single, maybe some single potential here, but wasn't really sure. It's fucking short. I Read up on it a little bit with the Richard Dawson controversy and references towards Nixon and Those kinds of things, but this song overall and the band was like fine, you can have it. We're making it less than three minutes long, interesting track. 1:06:30 - Speaker 4Yeah, i said the same. I mean I had the same. I'm feeling about it, the private thing that I that stood out most because the guitar was just so prominent. It's easy to say the guitar was awesome and heavy and all that, but I really like the drums, really dug the drums in this one. I thought the drums drove it. I was interested in the Nixon reference because I didn't really know what the song was about. I did a little bit of digging and, tim, i don't know your, your thoughts around Nixon. It's crazy because My dad liked Nixon, like he was very sad when Nixon died And I know a lot of people who hated him. And then I, you know, when I grew up and kind of learned about who he was, i was like if not really That great of a guy, especially when all the tapes came out on everything. But Yeah, it's funny too, because if it is about Nixon, i'm like where does where do Canadians? That's like. You know, what do I think about a former Canadian Prime Minister? I don't think I can Name a former Canadian Prime Minister before Trudeau. If you had a gun in my head, jd, i'm sorry. 1:07:49 - Speaker 1We're used to it up here on the roof. Yeah, man, it's, but I am getting a little concerned about all the guns to the head references. That's like your fourth in terms of the podcast. Just Just you know. Checking you out, just make it sure everything is all groovy over here. 1:08:13 - Speaker 4Yeah, so, so, that's, that's what I got. 1:08:16 - Speaker 1Okay, so that brings us to the last song on the record, and that is El Dorado. 1:08:44 - Speaker 5El Dorado, when It's a man's size 10 times. Look in here. It's all hard work. What's that smell? Smells like coffee. It smells like coffee. If you regret it, please say something Like I know, jesus, the evil makes me calm and I know it makes me calm and I'm a loving. Ring a brother in love and ring A brother in love and ring a brother in love and ring It's a man's size 10 times. It's a man's size, elder of all. I don't know what it is. You can't take it. You can't take it. Where we going. What's that taking? I tell some men shed a hood and makes me sexy. Where we going makes me sexy. I'm a loving. Ring a brother in love and ring A brother in love and ring a brother in love and ring It's a man's size inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside. 1:13:16 - Speaker 4Wow, you know what? I was always because my buddy had a Ford Ranchero, Which was the Ford version of the Opium, And he had a champagne colored Ford That he sold to some guy in Denmark. It was a 76 or 74 and he sold it And I'll never forgive him for it because it was the coolest fucking car And it just smelled like gasoline and it was loud And it handled like a fucking tank And it was just Oh yeah, mine didn't have power steering. 1:13:49 - Speaker 1Oh no, none of that Dude. 1:13:51 - Speaker 3My uncle, chris, had a light blue Ranchero I don't know early 70s And it was so large for two doors and seating maybe for two and a half people It was the biggest vehicle. When I was 16, he had me drive it from his house to my folks house And I remember scared to death that I was just going to hit a parked car Because I felt like I was driving a car that was two cars wide. It was so gigantic. But fast forward, i guess maybe My grandparents owned Eldorados. They had two specifically. I remember A Block 4 door and a White 2 door. They had like a Coop early 80s Eldorado And those were. I mean they were like Rolls Royce's to us As kids. We thought they were, we were riding around in limos, you know these were like the nicest cars. So I totally get the car reference, 100%. The 2 door one that my grandparents had. I was in the back seat trying to get to the front seat, dropping my grandmother off somewhere, and she closed the door on my leg And I thought I'd never walk again, i mean those cars were just behemoth. I was like I was like 7, maybe 7 years old, But the reference is here just to get into the song, and less about cars, you know, But World War I in Canada, basically coming over to serve the motherland And fight Germany, it's just, that's all just so heavy. You know the line Berlin makes me sexy, making me sexy. That one tripped me up a little bit, You know. I was like okay, are they implying This kind of glorification of war? you know, are we now, is Canada now I say we as a full Canadian are we now in this kind of limelight Because we came across the pond to fight, you know, And we're going through Berlin And we're seeing the separation there And we're hanging out at where is it? Where the US had their base in Berlin, Oh gosh. 1:16:07 - Speaker 5It's um. 1:16:09 - Speaker 4I don't know, were you born in Canada too? No, oh. 1:16:15 - Speaker 3What was it called? 1:16:18 - Speaker 1His pick Canadian accent, doesn't it? Come on, tell me voted guys. I'd have to edit that out. 1:16:25 - Speaker 4Hey now, hey now. 1:16:27 - Speaker 3But anyways, like the Berlin making me sexy part Just makes me think like maybe Berlin was the shiny object Kind of around that time. And it's this beautiful song. There's this amazing bass, there's these big fat toms going on with the drums. You know, i imagine that was just at their recording room to kind of reel those in. I thought it was a good closer for the album. 1:16:59 - Speaker 1Yeah, I do too. Pete, where are you with this one? 1:17:02 - Speaker 4I well, definitely we need to continue our conversation in a later date About Alderados and Rancheros, but I dug it. I really liked it. Probably my favorite part about it was the second verse. There's some really cool like sharp guitar licks in there And the lyrics are really syncopated. The where, when he, when he's I can't remember the, i can't quote the lyrics specifically, but the syncopated lyrics are really cool. Again goes back to him being I'm sure it'll just get better like a fine wine Out. What a great phrasing lyricist. He is a singer, but I didn't. I was a little confused about the Berlin makes me sexy to Tim And I dug in some like forums and I just thought the funniest thing was And, by the way, i know we apologize to the listeners and I won't do that anymore But I really want to apologize to the band because I love this band, like I love this band, and I hope that if anybody ever hears even a fucking sentence of this podcast from that band, that I have the utmost fucking respect and admiration for them because they're fucking cool. But that being said, somebody said this song was written under the influence of little bat blue and Jack Daniels And I just was fucking rolling in my chair. Hilarious but cool. Good tune to end the record, yeah for sure. 1:18:41 - Speaker 3I got the Berlin reference around Berlin making me sexy. Maybe that had to do with, like checkpoint Charlie, right That's. I don't know. I was not really. 1:18:53 - Speaker 4Wasn't Charlie Vietnam. 1:18:55 - Speaker 1No, no. Charlie in Vietnam referred to what the Americans called their enemy on the Vietnamese side. They called them Charlie. No, it's the crossing point between East and West. 1:19:11 - Speaker 3Yeah, it's the crossing point between East and West Berlin Shows my World War II. It still exists. 1:19:16 - Speaker 1It still exists my Hey, pete, your World War II knowledge isn't that bad. You just don't pay attention to sequels. I don't watch that. You read about World War I and you were like, yeah, man, i don't need to read the sequel. 1:19:29 - Speaker 4Seriously and everybody's paying attention to the possibility of World War III right now, and I was just like guys, i don't care, this is stupid, it's all about WWI. Anything they make after that sucks. 1:19:46 - Speaker 1It's all computers now. You haven't seen a war until you've seen a horse full of wagon in beautiful black and white Double speed. 1:19:58 - Speaker 4This podcast took a really dark turn. I love it. 1:20:01 - Speaker 1So I have a question for you. This is their third full length record, But this one came out like less than a year after Road Apples. Road Apples was 91 and this is 92. 1:20:21 - Speaker 3Which was unusual for them, right. 1:20:23 - Speaker 1It's unusual for any band like at this point, but like, certainly, if you were going to do that, you think you'd do it in your first and second record, not your second and third. You know that's. It's just interesting to me that they were able to come up with 12, like, like, pretty great fucking songs and put them to wax, you know, so short of time after Road Apples. I just wonder if. 1:20:48 - Speaker 3Why the hustle I? 1:20:49 - Speaker 1don't know, i don't know, was it? 1:20:52 - Speaker 3a. Was it a kind of a I hate to say it, but like a cash grab to get them to next size venues on tour, because man traveling across that country to only hit like 200 to 1,000 or 1,200 fans and then to go to like 3,000 to up to 5,000 fans per show. That's that's a hurry go. What were they doing back then? 1:21:18 - Speaker 1They played Maple Leaf Gardens on this tour and then they opened their Canada Center on this tour, which is the where the Leafs play and the Raptors play, and then they started a summer festival. They did a summer festival across Canada and maybe a couple cities in the States called another roadside attraction And that's where I first got to see them on my 19th birthday, july 24th 1993, in Markham Fairgrounds. I I got to see them live for the first time And it was almost like out of a storybook, because I got so incredibly drunk and high and I passed out during the band that went on before them and slept, slept basically the whole time on the ground, and then woke up magically when the, when the hip went on and I was fine. 1:22:15 - Speaker 3Oh, i would love to go back to that moment, the three of us with JD right now, that would be so fun man. JD come on, bro, it's time, wake up, yeah. 1:22:26 - Speaker 4I don't know if you, i don't know if you asked your question, jd, but I was going to comment on what you said Because I feel kind of the same thing. I don't know if it was a cash cash grab either, tim, but I feel like this was the push where the record label finally said look you, fuckers, we've, we've put a lot of money into you. You're going to make a hit, and they brought in this big swing and dick of a producer And we're going to fall through the roof, so to speak, and being as. That never really happened. Maybe that's where, you know, we lead into their fifth record, which will be next week, to to kind of start exploring their own, you know, being more themselves instead of living for you know what they, what they think they should be commercially. 1:23:21 - Speaker 3Yeah, i think so, maybe, maybe. I mean, this was an era where bands were not getting paid enough but making a living off of selling albums, selling CDs. Yeah, you know, i mean we're. We're years away from MP3.com kicking off. Yeah, that's right. And so anyone anyone in the biz back then who saw this band doing well and saw fans at shows across Canada going bunkers and knowing that people were doing the tour or doing all the West Coast shows or doing all the East Coast shows, you know, like any, any band manager would have been like let's knock out another album I know this one's going to kick ass. Let's get this metal producer in to you know, organize everything and let's keep keep it all going. And I guess this is the album that made them realize they could do it on their own, which is fucking amazing, because a lot of bands in the 90s would not even step out, no way. 1:24:31 - Speaker 1Yeah, we're going to find a market shift in the sound and tonality of of this band starting with the next record, day for Night. If you've got anything you want to say to wrap up this record. 1:24:46 - Speaker 3I just wish I had my grandparents El Dorado, out front with some hip on the eight track. Did they ever make eight track tapes? Oh man, wouldn't that be cool? I'll just, i'll just fantasize about that with what JD passed out in the back and P all hyper in the front seat. That's, that's. That's, that's my, that's where I'm going to leave it. 1:25:09 - Speaker 4Same here, man, same here. I wish we wish we had a wish we were driving around in the champagne colored Ford Ranchero with a, with a 24 pack of the bat blue on the on the floorboard. 1:25:24 - Speaker 3Love and the smell of fuel. 1:25:26 - Speaker 1Yeah, All right, as we do every episode of the show, we are asking each of you, fellas, to choose your MVP track for the record. Fully, completely, tim, let's start with you. You, son of a gun. 1:25:46 - Speaker 3Yes, So my favorite song off this album was definitely El Dorado. You know, went back and listen to it a little bit more And there's even some. there's some Michael Steip feels in there, just literally. 1:25:57 - Speaker 4I can't wait, man. 1:25:58 - Speaker 3Just with with the way Gord sings, you know they're so. They're so much from the nineties going on on these albums. It actually makes me miss the nineties. I often think of the eighties as being just so spectacular, but the nineties were for music. It was so good to, and this, this is just one of those songs that maybe you also want to listen to. Just a bunch of other stuff. So I'm going with El Dorado. 1:26:23 - Speaker 1Cool. What do you? what's going to be your playlist song there, pete? 1:26:33 - Speaker 4The hundred meridian hands down, the phrasing in it, the historical content of it, how I'm aware that that line physical line, not lyrical line, the importance of that and how it will eventually play into other hip references in the future too. It's just, it's fucking cool man, It's going on those for sure. 1:27:03 - Speaker 1Awesome. I can't wait to hear these lists as they as they grow in stature. All right, that's what I have for you this week. So there's that. Hope you enjoyed yourself as much as I did. See you next week, fellas, pick up your shit. 1:27:24 - Speaker 2Thanks for listening to Getting Hip to the Hip. Please subscribe, share rate and review the show at GettingHiptotheHipcom. 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Get ready for a deep dive into the Tragically Hip's iconic 1992 album Fully Completely with hosts JD, Pete, and Tim as we explore the evolution of the band's sound, the polished production, and how it aimed for mainstream success. Share in our personal listening experiences and how this album resonated with us in different ways, from car rides to gym sessions.Join our lively conversation as we analyze standout tracks and Gord Downie's lyrical brilliance, including the catchy chorus of "Courage for Hugh MacLennan" and the various definitions of courage presented throughout the song. Discover the numerous Canadian references sprinkled across the album that give it a distinct cultural flavour, as well as discussing the impact of these songs on a personal level.Whether you're a longtime fan of the Tragically Hip or just discovering their music, this engaging and insightful episode is a must-listen. Don't miss our in-depth discussion of Fully Completely, as we explore the band's attempt to make their sound more mainstream, the slick production of the album, and the car and computer time that really made this album come alive. Tune in now and become a part of our musical journey!Transcript0:00:01 - Speaker 1When I think back to the fall of 92, everything was coming up JD. I was dating a real-life girl who also liked the hip. I was elected class president with my friend Tim under the efficiently executed two is better than one campaign, and I got a new hip record. While I love student government, the main thing the election provided me was an office in the high school for the student council, which acted as my locker and my rehearsal space for jamming the new hip album with my buddies Kirby and Dean. There was rarely a day that passed that someone wouldn't stop by for a version of pigeon camera locked in the trunk of a car, or courage. It was great fun and an experience I'll definitely never forget. Fully completely is what I call the last record of the early era, where the hip sound is more or less matured and they're writing an embarrassing number of stone-cold classics. The idea that the production keeps getting tighter and more precise sounding is worth noting as well. Working with the late Chris Tegeritas, the boys locked in on the task at hand, even if it wasn't their favorite recording experience, and they delivered MCA, an album brimming with singles and sing-along courses. This was a band that knew its groove and walked with a comfortable stride inside of it. Simply put, fully, completely is a rock and roll record at its finest Bar none. I'm actually feeling really excited for Pete Tim on this one. Their first experience outside of this project would have likely involved listening to this record as some kind of jumping off point, but that's not how we chose to do this. This is one album and episode, one chance to make an impression. Will this record stand up to the scrutiny that our protagonist will most certainly have for anything this anticipated? Let's find out. On this episode of Getting Hip to the Hip. Long-sliced brewery presents Getting Hip to the Hip. Hey, it's Jay Dee here, and welcome to Getting Hip to the Hip, a weekly podcast about the tragically hip and getting to hear their music for the first time through the ears of my friends, pete and Tim, who are here with me as always Pete from Malaga, making his way to us via LA this week, and, of course, Tim from Portland. Being from Portland, as it were, i'm excited, frankly, from a logistics standpoint, that we only had to deal with two time zones this week. That makes my job a lot easier, but I'm curious how are you fuckers doing? 0:02:51 - Speaker 3Doing great, doing good. It's well. It's, you know, december in Portland and we have a freeze happening, so we're hunkered down. It's a good day to be podcasting. 0:03:03 - Speaker 1Sounds good. 0:03:05 - Speaker 4It's snowing there, i take it. 0:03:06 - Speaker 3Almost. 0:03:07 - Speaker 4Okay. 0:03:08 - Speaker 3Almost. 0:03:09 - Speaker 4I'm dragging ass, man. I woke up around quarter to four this morning. I've gotten about four hours of sleep in the last. I want to say 36 hours. Yeah, so the jet lags hit me hard. Nine hour time difference sucks, but it is what it is for the hip anything. 0:03:33 - Speaker 1Holiday travel, man Everything. 0:03:36 - Speaker 4Fully and completely for the hip. 0:03:38 - Speaker 1Well, that's what we're talking about today. We're talking about the October 6th 1992 release produced by Chris Sanjiris. It's a 46 minute long CD at this point because that's where still around but it was a CD. It included singles, six singles, and it was rated 4.5 out of 5 by all music. So that's a great score and there's some good background information there. But I'm curious if you want to just get right into it and tell me how you experience the album. 0:04:14 - Speaker 3I like the evolution. This really helped me with where the albums have gone thus far, just having fully, completely be be where it's at in our, in our process, definitely. 0:04:31 - Speaker 4I mean, i agree with Tim the evolution I love. I clearly see this going somewhere. It's strange. I think I don't want to put the car before the horse but you do it, don't? 0:04:44 - Speaker 1you put that car as a horse. 0:04:45 - Speaker 4No, but I feel like this record may be the dark horse If we're going to stick with the equestrian analogies in that of the four records was the fourth one. We've fourth one. Yeah, i feel like this is my least favorite, although I do have some great notes on it. But there's so many album songs, artists over the years I've disliked at first and they end up being my favorites Interesting. Oh. Yeah, i've talked with you about a few things like that before, jd, but yeah, i feel like this might be the one. This might be the one. So, we'll see. 0:05:28 - Speaker 3You know, conversely, for me this one, like right out the gate, was the winner of what we've listened to so far And I went into the mindset of okay 1992, what was happening in my life when I got a new album and it usually was going straight in the car, you know, straight from the record store in the car. So I just had this one mostly in the car all week. I listened to it at the gym a little bit, but it was mostly car time didn't take notes until recently on any of it and just kind of jammed out to it. There's, you know, as expected, there's definitely some I like more than others, but of course I was, i was digging it. 0:06:11 - Speaker 1This to me was the band really trying to go over the top in terms of landing mainstream appeal. To me, that's what this record is always This record is. This record is that sound that they've been working on the last two records, that that bar sound. You know that that really tight and nifty blues, bass guitar sound, and this is just a really well produced version of that really slick. It's a slick sounding album and they haven't sounded slick up until this point. So to me, i've always thought of it as a record that was was trying to shoot for them, shoot for the moon. So I'm real surprised to hear you know Pete's analysis off the bat. Did you listen to in your car? because I do know that you have a premium audio sound system. 0:07:10 - Speaker 4I mentioned that and you've experienced it. I did listen to in my car and there were, there were tracks that really stood out that I really did like I don't want to say I didn't like this record, but there were tracks that really stood out and, like I said, i'm really glad I didn't listen to it on the plane, because associating this record with you know, a 12-hour flight after you've been at the airport for seven hours because they delayed your flight, would have, just you know, i probably just wouldn't have shown up today. I would have just texted you guys and said you're on your own, you know. So yeah, but it's. I mean computer time and car time was what was, what did it for me, this one. 0:07:52 - Speaker 1Alright. Well, do we want to get into the songs? Let's do it Alright. The first song is called Courage for Hugh MacLennan. 0:07:58 - Speaker 4I am Okay, bring up notes. So obviously I'm. I'm doing research on Hugh MacLennan and who he was because I want to know what the history of that is. The chorus is just catchy as fuck. It is just it, just it, just I don't know. It feels like there's a change of tempo, but it's not. But the lyrics just make it so sweet. The squeaky backup vocals that you said were going to eventually make their way in there. It would be the staple of, i believe, the bass player. 0:08:38 - Speaker 1The rhythm guitarist, rhythm guitar player. Yeah, all along. 0:08:42 - Speaker 4Those are all over this record. And then, kind of looking at the lyrics, which I did a lot more lyrical analysis for this record than others His Gord's definition of courage as opposed to MacLennan's definition was something that I really haven't pieced together yet, but I dug it. I yeah, i'll talk about more because I think this record is thematic in that sense because there's just a lot of Canadian references. Obviously There are, oh a ton. What about you, tim? 0:09:16 - Speaker 3Yeah, I was excited right out of the gate. Playing this song in the car I thought, okay, song number one for this album. If you know I'm a fan, starting at the beginning of this band or just really even coming into this album. This first song is a great first track of an album. The tempo is good, you know it's, it's singable parts. you know it's just a good, simple rocking tune and just as far as. Yeah, i had no idea who Hugh McLennan is or was. You know that looked him up and definitely feel like I need to read at least one of his books. So probably get a suggestion from you, mr JD. But you know it's this song about consequences and facing the light or the dark. You know it's just, it's a great, a great kickoff for the album. I loved it. 0:10:13 - Speaker 1This to me has one of Gord Downey's absolute best turns of turns of phrase or lyrical works of art. You know, it's a feat of strength, almost what he does with the text of McLennan's work. It shouldn't be as effective as it is, but it is. It works so well and all he does is read the lyric into the melody. The lyrics are there's no simple explanation for anything important any of us do. And, yeah, the human tragedy consists in the necessity of living with the consequence under pressure, under pressure. But the way he phrases it and the way he the music in the background is building up, it's so powerful and so such a great bridge. And then, you're right, it goes up up against that banger of a chorus to outro the song. Really fucking strong, strong work. This is a karaoke staple of mine as well, so perfect, yeah you mentioned the phrasing. 0:11:22 - Speaker 4It's funny because I thought the same thing and I think I put in. It's ironic. I'm showing this. People can at home can't see it, but this is just sitting on a thing and I'm thinking about it because of amazing it's a copy of Life magazine with Sinatra on the front yeah, sorry, sinatra. So I think people like Sinatra, i definitely think other musicians from the 90s, but this puts him, this record put him lyrically in that category for great phrasing. Not many people. People can put lyrics to songs and it sounds cool and they can sing harmonies and melodies. But when you can phrase a song like you just said so well, it just makes the song so fucking cool, brings out the lyrics in the melody so much better yeah, i agree. 0:12:12 - Speaker 1so next up we go to a real interesting song. this is something that Gord would carry with him, especially in his later years, and that is like the crisis in Canada's north crisis with our Indigenous people, and this song takes a look at that. It's called Looking for a Place to Happen. 0:12:38 - Speaker 3I thought this one started off running, you know, felt really catchy, without knowing what the lyrics were or background or anything. It just starts off really well. But eventually I realized, okay, this is something about taking away or taking what's not yours. You know I hear guilt and sorrow in here. It's just full of emotion. So as I looked into it I realized what it was basically about It. Even I don't know it got me when I got to the end of the song I heard Gord kind of singing through the outro Like it doesn't it carries on into me. That resembled like something around the fact that the invasion just is continuing on. You know, the taking away is continuing on, the pain isn't going to end. You know this, this and I think he he harkens that so well in this song for what the content is It? just it kind of it kind of floored me. It felt like a lot. And you know their songs I'm experiencing over the course of this catalog is you know some of them? I feel like, oh, this must be fun in a bar. You know people buy. I love the song and some songs are like fuck me. You know this is heavy stuff that we all still need to deal with and think about and realize, and just such a, such an impactful band. 0:14:20 - Speaker 1Yeah, and as they got bigger, they, you know, they, they took that to heart. you know that they had that, they carried some clout and they used that, and you know to, to a really good degree. 0:14:33 - Speaker 3Well, even even some of their. You know, some of the lyrics and some of the storytelling is just very North American based. It's, you know, often very much Canada for sure, specifically. But it did, and also, you know, at times made me again think about what the fuck? why didn't they resonate more in the USA? because I identify with a ton of it. There's so much there, i think that crosses over. 0:14:58 - Speaker 1Yeah, borders. How did you feel about looking for a place to have a beat? 0:15:02 - Speaker 4It's funny because the the what I said before about this record being thematic and and very, very Canada, kind of picking up where Tim left off. In my research of the first song and my research of who Hugh MacLennan was, I remember his wife saying to him, because I think his first couple of books were like flops, like you need to write about what you know, write about Canada. And that book, the third book or whatever book, the his book that he finally wrote about Canada and what he knew, ended up being really, really successful. And I feel like the hip kind of played around with that. This first, their first few times out, their first two or three records, but this one is just all Canada And it's just it's Canada threw up on this record, And in a good way, Jacques Cartier is mentioned. Jacques Cartier is mentioned in there. So, yeah, i think it's. It's cool because for and Tim, maybe you can speak to this because as Americans, we get a, we get. We have this polite maple syrup, like I said, but LeBat blue version of who Canadians are and what Canada is free healthcare, marijuana, everything's great north of the border on the roof of the US. But I think only probably in the last six or seven years has it really entered the American consciousness of the plight of indigenous folks. And in Canada, in the north, i don't think it's something that, tim. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm just ignorant, but I feel like it's not something that's been talked about, at least in the mainstream for Americans until recently. 0:17:00 - Speaker 3I think you're right. I think you're right. We've we've definitely have talked about it more USA, regionally specific. 0:17:06 - Speaker 4But, but to know it was that this was being. 0:17:09 - Speaker 3This was in mainstream rock music in 1992 is cool, right, exactly, yeah, yeah, we weren't necessarily singing about that in 1992. 0:17:20 - Speaker 1Yeah, No, certainly we weren't here either other than other than through this. Yeah, and a lot of people. you know, for everybody that does like dive deep into the lyrics and and and wants to analyze you know what it all means that there is an equally large or maybe bigger cohort that is just wants to fucking dance to some music. you know, like they just want to rock out And they get to do that with our next song at the hundredth meridian, where the great planes begin. 0:17:51 - Speaker 3Ready Mark. 0:18:08 - Speaker 5Roll it And take my life with my hands Where the great planes begin, at the hundredth meridian, at the hundredth meridian, where the great planes begin, driving down a part of our road, we stand in a shoulder high. The road is crusted Of wind and dust. At the hundredth meridian, at the hundredth meridian, at the hundredth meridian, where the great planes begin, let alone the dead chapter, car and train hauntings. A generation's almost done with any of these great planes. King crashes with the wind and The greatest planes along the line of old road, car and train out of Mali outskirts. The world is so very cruel, but I've done the best thing. At the hundredth meridian, at the hundredth meridian, at the hundredth meridian, where the great planes begin, at the hundredth meridian, at the hundredth meridian, at the hundredth meridian, where the great planes begin, and remember. I remember above and low, and I remember a thing about, it seems to me I don't ever, ever say no to everything I know. I don't ever, ever say no to everything I know. I don't ever say no to everything I know. If I don't walk on the road, i've seen a promise. Maybe I'll need some place. I don't want to be a dead man. I'm a dead man, i have to transport. I can't say I'm on this sleep. I've borrowed the keys. I've been listening to some songs and the tracks. I don't want to be a low on the shoulder. I've been listening to some songs and the tracks. I don't want to be a low on the shoulder. At the hundredth meridian. At the hundredth meridian, where the great planes begin. At the hundredth meridian, at the hundredth meridian. At the hundredth meridian, where the great planes begin. When the planes begin, oh, Love this one. 0:21:05 - Speaker 3All things backups. Can we do karaoke with this one? 0:21:09 - Speaker 1This became a lot. Yeah, i would do karaoke this. This became a life staple, for sure as well. 0:21:13 - Speaker 3I'm sure, yeah, garbage red sheep, garbage red trees, whispers of disease driving down a corduroy road. I had to look up corduroy road. I was like what the hell is that? So that was a really interesting Find right there. What is it? What is it? references. You know Laying down logs along waterways so you can keep on your journey. You're basically walking down logged paths. So, yeah, that's that's what a corduroy road is. 0:21:44 - Speaker 4Pretty cool, no idea, no idea, i Dude this, this tune, i would probably say I probably say this tune is my favorite on the record. I think The the like the, the borderline wrap, that um, that that gordon He's doing, and it um just Fucking amazing. The the the guitar, wah, um is is nasty, um, i It fits though, right, it's, oh Yeah, totally more than more than past songs I've heard No absolutely the realizing the again Going back every song, i think there's a, there's a reference, a historical reference, that the hundredth murdering was the, the separation of the united states through between spain and france and later between the us and spain, after the louis excuse me, louisiana purchased from um france and then from uh, and then with the united states of mexico, like that historical reference of it. But this song is just, it's a fucking Banger. It is a banger, right, it is a banger, absolutely, absolutely. And there's, there's, by the way, um, um, this song Has that line you mentioned it, tim garbage bag trees. I think that is in the song before looking for a place to happen that same, there's another reference to garbage bag trees, and so jd, or anybody, give me a line on that garbage bag trees. 0:23:24 - Speaker 1I wish I had one to me. It just, it just reminds me of one of those old derelict areas where you see, like debris caught in the, the fences, you know that's been blown around, wind strewn. I picture, you know, like a garbage bag tree to be a plastic bag that is fastened itself into the tree And, uh, it just looks, you know, more depressing by seeing it but I don't know that's. That's just my thinking. If you've got an angle on this, send me an email. Jd at getting hip to the hip calm. 0:23:59 - Speaker 4Put to be, to put that in two songs in a row on a record got me something. 0:24:04 - Speaker 1Yeah, agreed. How about you, tim? What did you think of this one? Oh, i guess you already. You spoke first, didn't you? 0:24:11 - Speaker 3Yeah, i mean I dug it. I I thought, uh, overall I I felt the anger in here. There's so much self expression which you know they're definitely feeling. so many songs, um, i, i love the refer, the reference or the declaration of have right cooter, you're seeing it, my funeral, you know that's in just going back and listening to some Rai kooder songs, i mean there's a lot of influence there for the band and it's I dug it. It's a great song, great tune. 0:24:42 - Speaker 1Now, did you recognize that lyric from anything? No so the live version of highway girl He. He says that at one point He says get mr Rai kooder to sing my eulogy, all right, fun. And then boom, it shows up in this song, like two years later, like it was just a, it was just a throwaway phrase in a, in a story, in the middle of a song, and then it becomes, you know, this end of this epic rant, uh, end of this epic rap, rather, that he sort of does this, this rap piece. Yeah, i think it's fucking cool. They started using this song to jam out songs in the middle of as well, and then it would. It would always lead up to that, that part, that that bridge part. Now, all three of these songs that we've talked about so far Are singles. Courage was the third single, at the hundredth meridian was the fourth single, and looking for a place to happen was the fifth single. Well, so they're. The records got legs. I mean, they really tried to leg this one out and and see if anything would stick. The next song is our first album cut of the Of the fully, fully, completely record, and it's an interesting one as well, title wise. What the hell is the pigeon camera, pete? 0:26:04 - Speaker 4So it's um, i had to look this one up too. Um, i guess back in the day 1909, there was a scientist or an inventor who Who thought that strapping cameras with time delays on them to pigeons would be a great idea, and so They kind of took off for a little bit. I would love to see actual Photographs. I that's something I I didn't. 0:26:33 - Speaker 1Sit. The birds took or of the birds that the birds took. 0:26:36 - Speaker 4There's a lot of pictures of the birds with the camera strapped to them but that the birds took, um, they were going to do it for you know, military purposes, for reconnaissance, but then planes Came and they started being able to mount cameras on planes, so it kind of, you know, went by the wayside. But, um, yeah, this song I liked it. Um, it didn't do A ton for me, but the guitar solo was very redeeming. It, it, it, i this is going to sound really strange because it's well, obviously so many years left kind of very sublime feel the band, sublime from that guitar solo, the tone That the guitar that was being played or the notes that were being played. It just sounded like it was uh, it was a. It was a Soul taken from the band sublime, but I liked it. It worked. It was really cool. Well, you got Yeah whoo-foo fight. 0:27:35 - Speaker 3I did not go to sublime and That band just just makes me. It makes me cringe. I just Hear it and it's changed the station as fast as possible because I only ever hear it. When I'm in southern california driving around listening to the radio, some stations are playing that band, like I swear, every 17 minutes. Oh yeah, oh terrible. 0:27:57 - Speaker 4Anyway, it's against the law to play that at a bar in long Beach. Yeah, it's against the law. 0:28:03 - Speaker 3It should be. It should be. Yeah, they should sell the. Anyways, uh, pigeon camera, i, you know it's. I think it's a good Slot four slowdown It's. There's this kind of calm, serene guitar riffing in there. Um, it's. I guess there's a lot of references when you look up actual pigeon cameras and kind of dive deeper into that. As you touched on Pete, i did find, you know, as you said, pictures of pigeons with the cameras strapped on them and Kind of thought about what, what, what is that? and you know, carry, the carrying of information, the passing of secrets. You know the, the, i don't know. It just seemed like a wartime era thing. I wasn't really sure why This song was in there, conceptually, lyrically, everything you know there was. It was a head scratcher. But the coolest thing about it was finding out about fucking pigeon cameras, simply like I'm glad the songs there, because, dude, you got to look up pictures that they took. There's a few online And they're fucking incredible. Like there's portions of wings Surrounding a landscape, you know it's, it kind of worked, but who the hell knows, like when you got, when you develop this film and you're printing these old black and whites and seeing all this abstract shit, like You know it's. It's so bizarre and weird. Let's write a song about this Very fascinating thing, guys, like did you know that these pigeons to carry and take cameras or take pictures? Like what the fuck? why not write a song about it? 0:29:54 - Speaker 1So weird, yeah, fun song we go to another album track, and this is one called lion eyes. 0:30:01 - Speaker 3So this one in the car was Fun and so sing along. You know, it's like simple, easy to get along with. It's a rock song, it's a good jam, like I imagine people just belting this out at live shows, maybe even almost annoyingly. If you're ever go to shows and you hear people singing like a little too much, yeah, sure, bands love it when it happens and they can, yeah, i just this is just could be one of those songs. The the parts about When he sings From the cleftab low variant. You know these, these film references are really kind of that. That was all this added Kind of mysteriousness to me. the cold wind blowing over your private parts. I'm like, is that you know? I, i was really trying to driving around listen to this over and over Because it's so listenable. I'm trying to decipher, you know, heads or tails of it and couldn't, couldn't get much, but overall It's an easy song to consume. Yeah, storytelling wise, i wasn't so sure, but overall it was like man, this is a jammy, easy one for sure. 0:31:18 - Speaker 4It's funny you say that, tim, because it's for me, storytelling wise. I found it way more interesting. I mean, i like the tune, i Like the turnaround after the chorus on the bridges, wildly out of place, like I just It, just it. It shut my brain off for this song. I was like, oh cool, i'm into this bridge comes. I'm like what the fuck is this? Is this like the same band I'm listening to, but the the references to tableau we've on which I had to look up. I was like a nativity scene even. More or less, i would assume. And then the other one, romana, clef, oclef, all these French references in there seemed really cool. Like this is again Because I think musically I liked the other ones. They stuck to me much quicker. I did a lot more digging in the lyrics for this one. I really liked. I really liked All the lyrical references Reveal more as the songs go on. 0:32:27 - Speaker 1Yeah, it's pretty loaded, it's really loaded Yeah okay, so we go next to a pretty menacing song, and especially menacing when you consider this one was a single and And it's fucking tremendous. 0:33:15 - Speaker 5Some. The truck's gone. The wind overlanded a real rainbow, like a new much star, when you could see everything but a logical factor. But ten bucks in just to get the tank chopped Oh, dang it. I found a place to stop and infrared it. It's a truth. We had a place where the copters won't spot it And I destroyed the man. I never even thought I'd forgotten. However, every day I'm dumping my body. If they better for us, they don't understand. If they better for me, they don't understand. Oh, dang it. I found a place to stop and infrared it. It's a truth. We got a place where the copters won't spot it And I destroyed the man. I never even thought I'd forgotten. However, every day I'm dumping my body. If they better for us, they don't understand. If they better for us, they don't understand. If they better for me, they don't understand. Let me out. 0:36:43 - Speaker 4Let me out, let me out. 0:37:28 - Speaker 1Let me out. 0:37:53 - Speaker 4I just love it. The second solo is just like towards the end. It's so awesome and I'm gonna pull a tim from Portland right now. The fucking fade kills me. Like it's so fucking cool man. The guitar solo is so awesome. I'm just like just fucking end it, guys. And they fade it and I'm just like you motherfuckers I never noticed it before you said it's him and then I start listening to songs like these. Or I'm just eating up the guitar solo at the end, like it's fucking mac and cheese And they just take the plate away from me. Dude, it's like eating a mac and cheese. There's some on the plate and the waiter just comes by and fucking takes it and says Sorry, here's the check. 0:38:51 - Speaker 3I hate to say it, but these fade outs make me pissed on a couple of levels. I mean the song Courage. The very first time I heard it in the car it fades out. It's an okay fade out, though, but as I heard it fading out in the car, i cranked the volume all the way. So now get the last, as I wanted to finish the song, you know, and the other part of it that pisses me off, it makes me frustrated, is never having heard them play live. I mean, they didn't fade out songs live. So it's like I wish I could hear the song live and hear how they ended or see what happens. So that's, you know, that's a don't want to spend so much time on that, but yeah, i feel that this song is. It's so heavy, it's pretty gnarly. The lyrics are crazy, you know, the storytelling is very sinister, dark, dumping the body. Be better for us if you don't understand. And then you know, after diving into this one further, i read about the story about Caroline Case, which, judy, i'm sure you know, this Toronto mother of three whose car was found overturned and wrecked and the bodies didn't show up. And there's this whole story that ties in with the song. That's just amazing. It's just such a dark song. It's cool. I mean I appreciate the level of storytelling and kind of malice and all of those things with us. 0:40:38 - Speaker 1Yeah, it's really fascinating that they can go to these dark places. You know, the last couple records have been have been chock full. This one so far is a more lively, less dour sort of record, but we get our first taste of it here and, yeah, maybe it is better for us if we don't understand. 0:41:01 - Speaker 3Yeah, agreed, it's just dark on many levels, you know. But again, when I read the story about Caroline Case and that whole tragedy and mystery, it's like fuck, what Amazing bits of information to call together to create a song about. Pretty cool. 0:41:24 - Speaker 1They've all gone and will go too. 0:41:27 - Speaker 3I thought maybe this was about like the difficulties of being on the road and traveling and playing gigs, setting up, tearing down. You got this massive country to drive across zigzag. You know it's kind of a. To me it was kind of a filler song with a long ending. You know it has like a 30 second ending, which is a little unusual, so I didn't listen to this one. A whole lot, a whole lot of extra times. 0:42:00 - Speaker 1How about you Pete? 0:42:01 - Speaker 4I'm in a second-day emotion Smokey And I say the opening guitar lyric was interesting, although very 80s, 90s. You know they, somebody in that band loves John Cola from Huey Lewis in the news because that guitar tone is just, it keeps showing up, it just keeps showing up. I think I don't know that Alanis ever listened to much Huey Maybe she was a hip fan, but I a lot of her music too, that I listened to that. Those, what are they? it's like a univive or something that he's using on the guitar, just keeps showing up And it just sounds a little dated. Because I feel like back when people were using those effects, they didn't have anything cool to play on the guitar, they just had a cool effect. So like playing anything was like, hey, be impressed because I've got this amazing effect. I'm not playing shit on the guitar, but it's a cool effect, right? Right, guys, you know so. But yeah, the song all in all doesn't do a ton for me. So what about you, jd? I don't know. 0:43:19 - Speaker 1Well, i think it's fascinating that this is the first mention of production really that has been brought up. I mean, you've mentioned guitar tone a couple times. but yeah, it's a slick, it's a slickly produced record. This guy who produced it produces a lot of like metal And if you know about the production of metal, oftentimes it's got a real clean well, real clean and focused kind of sound, very precise, and I think we get a bit of that on this. I'd almost love to hear what this record would have sounded like with Don Smith producing it, who produced the last two. But we get a taste of that when we go into the next record and they start to self-produce and they start to. it's almost like this record. they go as far as they've ever went production wise, and then they go completely the opposite direction, you know, for the next swath of records, and go sort of back to basics. 0:44:30 - Speaker 4Feels formulae And that, like, like I heard on the first couple couple records, like I felt them like really trying to go into the space of of being obscure and trying their own shit. And then maybe the record label was like All right, guys, enough, your crap, we're going to get a fucking big time producer. And then he's gonna you guys are going to be staws. you know, like I don't know what the fuck they were thinking. I feel like this is kind of that, although it's a good record. But yeah, i hear you JD. 0:45:02 - Speaker 1You know, for many fans this is their favorite record, so it's it's. It's tough. It's tough to be objective about it. It's not my favorite record. I've got another one that's my favorite And we'll get into that soon, but I hear that I I could. 0:45:18 - Speaker 3You know it resembles a following an athlete who goes amateur to pro. Yeah, this, this felt like this album. You know I don't want to get into it as if we're ending, but I agree with that JD. 0:45:31 - Speaker 1Well, the next next track we get is the titular fully, completely. 0:45:37 - Speaker 3As a title track, accidentally listened to the song first, instead of the first track, you know, searched the album and this thing came up. And I was getting ready to drive, to sit in way and then realize it was the title track and I was not, i wasn't 100% sold, i wasn't a kind of questioned certain things about it as a title track. Or I heard, like Eddie Vedder and Pearl Jam in there, you know there's just it's this kind of never ending guitar riffing. If you listen to it really closely, there's a right channel tambourine happening. There's a total afterthought production thing. It's like, hey, let's just add in some tambourine, like it's there If you really listened closely and it's it's. That made me like the song more because it added this kind of fun element to it. But I I thought it was not the strongest for a title track. I thought it was just okay. 0:46:38 - Speaker 1This is our first title track we've ever got as well Right. Yeah, can I? 0:46:44 - Speaker 4ask you, JD, was this a single? 0:46:46 - Speaker 1This was. This was the last single on the record. 0:46:49 - Speaker 4Okay, because I I have the same Tim. You mentioned something about the tambourine. I think that's so funny, because I I felt the same way, of course, about the tambourine, but also the, a lot of the guitar licks. I feel like if the song was just raw, maybe, maybe, maybe Gord Downey stepped on the gas a little bit harder with the, with the vocals, it would have been a totally different sounding song, but I think it was recorded. And then afterward producers like Hey you, you guitar guy, come in here, throw some more licks down here. What do you want me to play? Just do something. 0:47:26 - Speaker 3Yeah, and it's like Hey, who's your friend over there in the corner? Can you play tambourine? Come on over here. 0:47:32 - Speaker 4You know, but like I, i yeah, i feel the same way. I couldn't like super get into it, but I thought the guitar solo at the end was a huge, was really like the slide all again, all the licks. In the beginning, like I didn't dig that, but the solo at the end was really big payoff And I could see how this song at a show. Jd, maybe I'm wrong, but I could see them taking this at a show and just fucking do a 15 minute version of it. 0:48:01 - Speaker 1That's what I was going to say. I was going to say this song was one that wasn't my favorite for a long time And then it grew on me And now I would say it's like a top three on this record for me. Live It just slayed Yeah. 0:48:15 - Speaker 3Just slayed Again, where I had the same sentiment, pete, where I just wished I could have heard this type of song live version, because you hear certain things when it's recorded and you wonder, like, why was it produced this way, or why was this thrown in, or why this or why that? And you know that there is a more raw version of this out there And it's like you got to get through the, the, the meal that's prepared for the pictured menu item, when you walk in the restaurant and you think, okay, that's, that's supposedly what I'm going to get, and then the live version is like nah, here's your fucking mess of a meal. It's going to taste the same way, but this is actually what it looks like. That's, that's, that's what I thought about this song. 0:49:02 - Speaker 4Tim, i couldn't, i would not to take it a step further, but I'm going to take this stuff further. It's like getting through a shitty Thanksgiving dinner because you want to go out drinking later And then and then, after you've been out drinking to like three or four in the morning, then you hit up Taco Bell or whatever it is, and that's where the that's where the real joy of eating comes in. And that late night meal is the fucking live version. It's 100%. We're at where I die on this one. 0:49:30 - Speaker 1All right. Next up, we go to 50 mission cap. 0:49:59 - Speaker 5The barilco disappeared that summer. He was on a fishing trip, the last goal he ever scored. They didn't win another 1962. I stole this from a car. I worked it in. I worked it in to look like that. It's my fifth mission. And I worked it in. I worked it in. I worked it in to look like that. The barilco disappeared that summer. He was on a fishing trip, the last goal he ever scored. They didn't win another 1962. I stole this from a car. I worked it in. I worked it in to look like that. It's my fifth mission. It's my fifth mission. It's my fifth mission. 0:53:45 - Speaker 3It's my fifth mission. I worked it in. 0:53:54 - Speaker 5I worked it in. I worked it in, i worked it in. 0:54:07 - Speaker 3I worked it in. I worked it in. I worked it in. I worked it in. I worked it in. I worked it in. I worked it in. I worked it in. I worked it in. 0:54:42 - Speaker 1I worked it in. I worked it in, i worked it in. 0:54:58 - Speaker 3I worked it in. I worked it in. I worked it in. I worked it in I worked it in. 0:55:17 - Speaker 1Basically, just put a melody to this hockey card, sentence or paragraph rather, and boom, there's the verse. You know it's crazy, like I've seen the card before. And then you get this brilliant anthemic chorus 50 mission cap. But even it is a little deeper than just a brainless chorus because it's a 50 mission cap. And then the next lyric is I worked it in, i worked it in to look like that. So is the protagonist here somebody that really truly is wearing their 50 mission cap, like with pride? or are they trying to sneak by, you know, to make somebody think that they've been in their 50 missions? I don't know like, but I fucking love thinking about it. How about you, Pete? 0:56:08 - Speaker 4Okay, so the lyrics certainly seemed like he was reading from something Clearly. yeah, that's what it was, and I don't know if that's a if. when he said JD, you mentioned like I made you think that or something. What was that You said a second ago about the lyrics? 0:56:27 - Speaker 1like Oh, I worked it in to look like that. 0:56:30 - Speaker 4I worked it in to look like that. Like maybe he's referencing people who you know. unfortunately there are those people who, who would wear a 50 mission cap and never, you know, completed a mission in their entire lives. you know those, those fakes. But the song wise is just, it's an amazing song Looking at who Bill Barilko was And ironically, his body wasn't found until the years that Leafs won the cup next. 0:57:04 - Speaker 1They found his body, and then the Leafs won it. 0:57:07 - Speaker 4It's almost like he was cursing it right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's yeah. Sorry, that's what I meant to say, sorry, no, no, no, it's so cool And I took a deep dive into this. You mentioned all the other stuff already about the amazing chorus. I love the squeaky back of vocals made an appearance again. The guitar lyric, or the guitar after the chorus, does this thing where it goes up and down by half steps and it's just so. It doesn't sound like it fits the song, but if it's the song perfectly, and Tim said this is clearly a hip song, because it is And it again might be my favorite on the record, but other stuff, that it's a staple at the home games when the Leafs are warming up, and also, what else did they say about it? Oh, that in the like the private lounge. I'm not a big hockey fan because I grew up in Southern California. You are Tim? No, i'm Tim Brown. Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, it just, it's just hard. But even though we had Wayne Gretzky, but that there's a, there's a handwritten lyrics signed by Gord Downey in the players lounge, it where the players hang out, and that Bill Barolko. Anyway, and when the when the hip would play the Canada Airlines Arena or whatever, they would leave up on Bill Barolko's jersey his number. 0:58:50 - Speaker 1Yeah, they were tired. 0:58:53 - Speaker 4But that was the only one they left up, like kind of when they, you know, change the arena for the hip show. From what I read, i don't know, but it was really cool just for that particular reference. It's what a song, fucking awesome song. 0:59:09 - Speaker 3Loved it. Loved it And it made me think about also, you know, kind of tying in with sports and war, like seeing your favorite team do so well and also knowing that they have fallen, or have you seeing them fall? There's just, there's a tone here that's like defeated but also like quit while you're ahead. I don't know. It's kind of a bit of a surrender thing. It's a great tune. I enjoyed it. 0:59:39 - Speaker 1Well, it's followed on the record by yet another tragically hip ballad slow song that you probably don't want to slow dance to once you find out what it's about, and that's weakings. 0:59:53 - Speaker 4You want to take it to him. 0:59:55 - Speaker 3I mean, it's a hell of a mood song, right? I think there's some banjo in there. Is that what I hear? Some? banjo Doe bro. Doe bro, some doe bro plucking. I maybe gave it three listens and, as not being a diehard hip fan, it's one of those placements in the album where I get it and get why it's there, but also just I move on. It's. There's a couple. There's some good lines in there. Can't be fond of living in the past, you're not going to last. It's like someone getting caught or being in the middle or guilty or jail time or yeah, it didn't, didn't move me. Oh Tim, oh Tim. It's probably Pete's favorite. 1:00:52 - Speaker 4I couldn't disagree with you more. I wouldn't say it's my favorite. I will say this song and this band continues to amaze me with its ability to just be super heavy and then go into these little acoustic tunes that they throw. I call this. You know, this is like when they're in the studio. They're like okay, this is going to be the acoustic song, but it reminded me of how great I felt when I listened to Fiddler's Green on Road Apples. 1:01:22 - Speaker 3I thought of the same. I thought of the same. 1:01:24 - Speaker 4Yep, had that vibe, yep, the intro with the sound effects and the animals and the birds, the bluegrass vibe. There's a line in there that I love is so good. I can't remember the first part. The second part is hung with pictures of our parents, prime ministers, as just such a fucking cool line, and I did some a little bit of research on what was going on with the reference of. You know they were watching the Held, their Breath or Whispers, and the CBC News, that's right About a guy named David Millard who was served like 21 years for a crime eating committee. You got it. It was like you know. There's a lot of that in the US justice system too. 1:02:19 - Speaker 1Oh, right Yeah. 1:02:20 - Speaker 4It just was such a cool fuck Like what. I don't know if the guy's still alive. I don't know if you heard the song when it came out, but what a fucking. 1:02:29 - Speaker 1Yeah, i mean coincidence, i think, is the word you're looking for. So this record comes out in 92 and in 91, millard and his people are granted the ability for a clearing of his name And it was 20 years that he was in prison for a rape that, a rape and murder that had occurred in 1969. So basically, the guy is born in 51. His almost his entire life is around this, this tragedy. Right And Gord took, you know, a simple acoustic guitar line and turned it into an epic story of the beginning of the exoneration of David Millard. 1:03:29 - Speaker 3So I hear the reasons why and I understand, i get it. I guess there's just for me, okay. I guess for me experiencing an album and thinking it as like a book, and you're going through the chapters and you know some, some chapters, you're like, oh man, i love where the character development is going And then all of a sudden you experience this, this downfall, this, this unfortunate event. You know, and it's the wild ride And I'm trying to. I honestly thought, okay, honestly thought Pete probably loves this song, fiddler screen, etc. Everything you said. You know why. Why is it that this is triggering for me personally, in the cadence of an album, to hear something like this and be like, come on, you guys, let's just get to more good jam and stuff. I don't know, maybe it's the time of year, maybe it's winter, maybe it's the holidays, which I like have a love hate for. This is just. This is just one of those tracks that I was waiting for in the album. It's like, okay, here we go. Who's this song about? That was fucking kind of real. What did he not do? 1:04:44 - Speaker 5What did he not? 1:04:45 - Speaker 3do? to go to jail? God damn it. Fucking injustices in the world, All these things. It's like fucking, another fucking ballad about God damn it. You know just, it's just like this emotional roller coaster. It's like, okay, what else we got, What are we moving into next? You know that's in the hip albums. To get to this type of song, I'm always like, okay, there's only a couple left. Where are these guys going to take me? 1:05:15 - Speaker 1And where do they take you next? 1:05:19 - Speaker 3Where with all? so where with all you know, you jump and straight into some jammy chords. The scene's pretty calm, i thought for kind of the guitar progression. The, the baseline, really hit me as like 80s metal, rat motley crew, maybe G&R. 1:05:43 - Speaker 4I. 1:05:46 - Speaker 3This song, JD the producer what you said. His name? Christiane Arias. 1:05:51 - Speaker 1Yeah, right, it's a Greek last name. 1:05:53 - Speaker 3He can ever say eat all over this one, i Guarantee it. You know so it's. I thought you know there's some single, maybe some single potential here, but wasn't really sure. It's fucking short. I Read up on it a little bit with the Richard Dawson controversy and references towards Nixon and Those kinds of things, but this song overall and the band was like fine, you can have it. We're making it less than three minutes long, interesting track. 1:06:30 - Speaker 4Yeah, i said the same. I mean I had the same. I'm feeling about it, the private thing that I that stood out most because the guitar was just so prominent. It's easy to say the guitar was awesome and heavy and all that, but I really like the drums, really dug the drums in this one. I thought the drums drove it. I was interested in the Nixon reference because I didn't really know what the song was about. I did a little bit of digging and, tim, i don't know your, your thoughts around Nixon. It's crazy because My dad liked Nixon, like he was very sad when Nixon died And I know a lot of people who hated him. And then I, you know, when I grew up and kind of learned about who he was, i was like if not really That great of a guy, especially when all the tapes came out on everything. But Yeah, it's funny too, because if it is about Nixon, i'm like where does where do Canadians? That's like. You know, what do I think about a former Canadian Prime Minister? I don't think I can Name a former Canadian Prime Minister before Trudeau. If you had a gun in my head, jd, i'm sorry. 1:07:49 - Speaker 1We're used to it up here on the roof. Yeah, man, it's, but I am getting a little concerned about all the guns to the head references. That's like your fourth in terms of the podcast. Just Just you know. Checking you out, just make it sure everything is all groovy over here. 1:08:13 - Speaker 4Yeah, so, so, that's, that's what I got. 1:08:16 - Speaker 1Okay, so that brings us to the last song on the record, and that is El Dorado. 1:08:44 - Speaker 5El Dorado, when It's a man's size 10 times. Look in here. It's all hard work. What's that smell? Smells like coffee. It smells like coffee. If you regret it, please say something Like I know, jesus, the evil makes me calm and I know it makes me calm and I'm a loving. Ring a brother in love and ring A brother in love and ring a brother in love and ring It's a man's size 10 times. It's a man's size, elder of all. I don't know what it is. You can't take it. You can't take it. Where we going. What's that taking? I tell some men shed a hood and makes me sexy. Where we going makes me sexy. I'm a loving. Ring a brother in love and ring A brother in love and ring a brother in love and ring It's a man's size inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside, inside. 1:13:16 - Speaker 4Wow, you know what? I was always because my buddy had a Ford Ranchero, Which was the Ford version of the Opium, And he had a champagne colored Ford That he sold to some guy in Denmark. It was a 76 or 74 and he sold it And I'll never forgive him for it because it was the coolest fucking car And it just smelled like gasoline and it was loud And it handled like a fucking tank And it was just Oh yeah, mine didn't have power steering. 1:13:49 - Speaker 1Oh no, none of that Dude. 1:13:51 - Speaker 3My uncle, chris, had a light blue Ranchero I don't know early 70s And it was so large for two doors and seating maybe for two and a half people It was the biggest vehicle. When I was 16, he had me drive it from his house to my folks house And I remember scared to death that I was just going to hit a parked car Because I felt like I was driving a car that was two cars wide. It was so gigantic. But fast forward, i guess maybe My grandparents owned Eldorados. They had two specifically. I remember A Block 4 door and a White 2 door. They had like a Coop early 80s Eldorado And those were. I mean they were like Rolls Royce's to us As kids. We thought they were, we were riding around in limos, you know these were like the nicest cars. So I totally get the car reference, 100%. The 2 door one that my grandparents had. I was in the back seat trying to get to the front seat, dropping my grandmother off somewhere, and she closed the door on my leg And I thought I'd never walk again, i mean those cars were just behemoth. I was like I was like 7, maybe 7 years old, But the reference is here just to get into the song, and less about cars, you know, But World War I in Canada, basically coming over to serve the motherland And fight Germany, it's just, that's all just so heavy. You know the line Berlin makes me sexy, making me sexy. That one tripped me up a little bit, You know. I was like okay, are they implying This kind of glorification of war? you know, are we now, is Canada now I say we as a full Canadian are we now in this kind of limelight Because we came across the pond to fight, you know, And we're going through Berlin And we're seeing the separation there And we're hanging out at where is it? Where the US had their base in Berlin, Oh gosh. 1:16:07 - Speaker 5It's um. 1:16:09 - Speaker 4I don't know, were you born in Canada too? No, oh. 1:16:15 - Speaker 3What was it called? 1:16:18 - Speaker 1His pick Canadian accent, doesn't it? Come on, tell me voted guys. I'd have to edit that out. 1:16:25 - Speaker 4Hey now, hey now. 1:16:27 - Speaker 3But anyways, like the Berlin making me sexy part Just makes me think like maybe Berlin was the shiny object Kind of around that time. And it's this beautiful song. There's this amazing bass, there's these big fat toms going on with the drums. You know, i imagine that was just at their recording room to kind of reel those in. I thought it was a good closer for the album. 1:16:59 - Speaker 1Yeah, I do too. Pete, where are you with this one? 1:17:02 - Speaker 4I well, definitely we need to continue our conversation in a later date About Alderados and Rancheros, but I dug it. I really liked it. Probably my favorite part about it was the second verse. There's some really cool like sharp guitar licks in there And the lyrics are really syncopated. The where, when he, when he's I can't remember the, i can't quote the lyrics specifically, but the syncopated lyrics are really cool. Again goes back to him being I'm sure it'll just get better like a fine wine Out. What a great phrasing lyricist. He is a singer, but I didn't. I was a little confused about the Berlin makes me sexy to Tim And I dug in some like forums and I just thought the funniest thing was And, by the way, i know we apologize to the listeners and I won't do that anymore But I really want to apologize to the band because I love this band, like I love this band, and I hope that if anybody ever hears even a fucking sentence of this podcast from that band, that I have the utmost fucking respect and admiration for them because they're fucking cool. But that being said, somebody said this song was written under the influence of little bat blue and Jack Daniels And I just was fucking rolling in my chair. Hilarious but cool. Good tune to end the record, yeah for sure. 1:18:41 - Speaker 3I got the Berlin reference around Berlin making me sexy. Maybe that had to do with, like checkpoint Charlie, right That's. I don't know. I was not really. 1:18:53 - Speaker 4Wasn't Charlie Vietnam. 1:18:55 - Speaker 1No, no. Charlie in Vietnam referred to what the Americans called their enemy on the Vietnamese side. They called them Charlie. No, it's the crossing point between East and West. 1:19:11 - Speaker 3Yeah, it's the crossing point between East and West Berlin Shows my World War II. It still exists. 1:19:16 - Speaker 1It still exists my Hey, pete, your World War II knowledge isn't that bad. You just don't pay attention to sequels. I don't watch that. You read about World War I and you were like, yeah, man, i don't need to read the sequel. 1:19:29 - Speaker 4Seriously and everybody's paying attention to the possibility of World War III right now, and I was just like guys, i don't care, this is stupid, it's all about WWI. Anything they make after that sucks. 1:19:46 - Speaker 1It's all computers now. You haven't seen a war until you've seen a horse full of wagon in beautiful black and white Double speed. 1:19:58 - Speaker 4This podcast took a really dark turn. I love it. 1:20:01 - Speaker 1So I have a question for you. This is their third full length record, But this one came out like less than a year after Road Apples. Road Apples was 91 and this is 92. 1:20:21 - Speaker 3Which was unusual for them, right. 1:20:23 - Speaker 1It's unusual for any band like at this point, but like, certainly, if you were going to do that, you think you'd do it in your first and second record, not your second and third. You know that's. It's just interesting to me that they were able to come up with 12, like, like, pretty great fucking songs and put them to wax, you know, so short of time after Road Apples. I just wonder if. 1:20:48 - Speaker 3Why the hustle I? 1:20:49 - Speaker 1don't know, i don't know, was it? 1:20:52 - Speaker 3a. Was it a kind of a I hate to say it, but like a cash grab to get them to next size venues on tour, because man traveling across that country to only hit like 200 to 1,000 or 1,200 fans and then to go to like 3,000 to up to 5,000 fans per show. That's that's a hurry go. What were they doing back then? 1:21:18 - Speaker 1They played Maple Leaf Gardens on this tour and then they opened their Canada Center on this tour, which is the where the Leafs play and the Raptors play, and then they started a summer festival. They did a summer festival across Canada and maybe a couple cities in the States called another roadside attraction And that's where I first got to see them on my 19th birthday, july 24th 1993, in Markham Fairgrounds. I I got to see them live for the first time And it was almost like out of a storybook, because I got so incredibly drunk and high and I passed out during the band that went on before them and slept, slept basically the whole time on the ground, and then woke up magically when the, when the hip went on and I was fine. 1:22:15 - Speaker 3Oh, i would love to go back to that moment, the three of us with JD right now, that would be so fun man. JD come on, bro, it's time, wake up, yeah. 1:22:26 - Speaker 4I don't know if you, i don't know if you asked your question, jd, but I was going to comment on what you said Because I feel kind of the same thing. I don't know if it was a cash cash grab either, tim, but I feel like this was the push where the record label finally said look you, fuckers, we've, we've put a lot of money into you. You're going to make a hit, and they brought in this big swing and dick of a producer And we're going to fall through the roof, so to speak, and being as. That never really happened. Maybe that's where, you know, we lead into their fifth record, which will be next week, to to kind of start exploring their own, you know, being more themselves instead of living for you know what they, what they think they should be commercially. 1:23:21 - Speaker 3Yeah, i think so, maybe, maybe. I mean, this was an era where bands were not getting paid enough but making a living off of selling albums, selling CDs. Yeah, you know, i mean we're. We're years away from MP3.com kicking off. Yeah, that's right. And so anyone anyone in the biz back then who saw this band doing well and saw fans at shows across Canada going bunkers and knowing that people were doing the tour or doing all the West Coast shows or doing all the East Coast shows, you know, like any, any band manager would have been like let's knock out another album I know this one's going to kick ass. Let's get this metal producer in to you know, organize everything and let's keep keep it all going. And I guess this is the album that made them realize they could do it on their own, which is fucking amazing, because a lot of bands in the 90s would not even step out, no way. 1:24:31 - Speaker 1Yeah, we're going to find a market shift in the sound and tonality of of this band starting with the next record, day for Night. If you've got anything you want to say to wrap up this record. 1:24:46 - Speaker 3I just wish I had my grandparents El Dorado, out front with some hip on the eight track. Did they ever make eight track tapes? Oh man, wouldn't that be cool? I'll just, i'll just fantasize about that with what JD passed out in the back and P all hyper in the front seat. That's, that's. That's, that's my, that's where I'm going to leave it. 1:25:09 - Speaker 4Same here, man, same here. I wish we wish we had a wish we were driving around in the champagne colored Ford Ranchero with a, with a 24 pack of the bat blue on the on the floorboard. 1:25:24 - Speaker 3Love and the smell of fuel. 1:25:26 - Speaker 1Yeah, All right, as we do every episode of the show, we are asking each of you, fellas, to choose your MVP track for the record. Fully, completely, tim, let's start with you. You, son of a gun. 1:25:46 - Speaker 3Yes, So my favorite song off this album was definitely El Dorado. You know, went back and listen to it a little bit more And there's even some. there's some Michael Steip feels in there, just literally. 1:25:57 - Speaker 4I can't wait, man. 1:25:58 - Speaker 3Just with with the way Gord sings, you know they're so. They're so much from the nineties going on on these albums. It actually makes me miss the nineties. I often think of the eighties as being just so spectacular, but the nineties were for music. It was so good to, and this, this is just one of those songs that maybe you also want to listen to. Just a bunch of other stuff. So I'm going with El Dorado. 1:26:23 - Speaker 1Cool. What do you? what's going to be your playlist song there, pete? 1:26:33 - Speaker 4The hundred meridian hands down, the phrasing in it, the historical content of it, how I'm aware that that line physical line, not lyrical line, the importance of that and how it will eventually play into other hip references in the future too. It's just, it's fucking cool man, It's going on those for sure. 1:27:03 - Speaker 1Awesome. I can't wait to hear these lists as they as they grow in stature. All right, that's what I have for you this week. So there's that. Hope you enjoyed yourself as much as I did. See you next week, fellas, pick up your shit. 1:27:24 - Speaker 2Thanks for listening to Getting Hip to the Hip. Please subscribe, share rate and review the show at GettingHiptotheHipcom. 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The Grenade is back with Episode #89 featuring tons of news, results, and soundbites for AUGUST 1987 in the WWF! First, we tackle the latest WWF news including... Bruno Sammartino's FINAL MATCH, Ken Patera's Injury, Kamala Quits, Bleeding is Banned, do we have NEW Tag Team Champions?!?!?,Plus, Da Crusher & the Baron, the Piledriver Album, WWF vs. NWA, the next SNME, the revamped Women's Division, & more! From there, I'll look into WWF Results for the month of August covering MSG, The Spectrum, Maple Leaf Gardens, Sam Houston Coliseum, Boston Garden, Nassau Coliseum, The Meadowlands, Montreal Forum, Richfield Coliseum, Los Angeles Sports Arena, and more! Featuring the FINAL MATCH OF BRUNO SAMMARTINO as he teams with Hulk Hogan! Plus, the Paul Boesch Retirement show, Pat Patterson out of retirement, The Snake Returns to action, Bam Bam Bigelow & Ted Dibiase on the road full time, Dynamite Kid Rehabs, Mongolian Stretcher Match, Whipping Matches, we learn what $300 will buy you, Nikolai beats the Warrior(?), David Sammartino back, Chavo Guerrero Debuts, Orton vs. Muraco, RICK MARTEL finds a new partner, & so much more! Available everywhere your Podcast Streaming needs are met.Visit our Podcast Network https://wrestlecopia.comFollow us on Twitter @RasslinGrenadeFollow and LIKE our FACEBOOK PAGE located at https://www.facebook.com/RasslinGrenadeSubscribe to our Youtube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/RasslinGrenade as we continue to add new videos from throughout wrestling history.Please Subscribe to our REVAMPED Patreon account to help keep us going, multiple Tiers to choose from!!! https://www.patreon.com/wrestlecopiaIncludes a $5 “All Access” Tier featuring our Patreon Watch-Along Series, all of Ray Russell's insanely detailed show notes (for the Grenade, Monday Warfare, & Regional Rasslin'), Early Show Releases, REMASTERED editions of the early Grenade episodes including NEW content that was originally edited out! PLUS, monthly DIGITAL DOWLOANDS for your viewing and reading pleasure, and the Patreon Exclusive Watch-Along Series covering past PPVs, Coliseum Videos, SNME's, Clash of the Champions, and more!Listen at your leisure and pick back up later if need be!The Grenade is back with Episode #89 featuring tons of news, results, and soundbites for AUGUST 1987 in the WWF! First, we tackle the latest WWF news including... Bruno Sammartino's FINAL MATCH, Ken Patera's Injury, Kamala Quits, Bleeding is Banned, do we have NEW Tag Team Champions?!?!?,Plus, Da Crusher & the Baron, the Piledriver Album, WWF vs. NWA, the next SNME, the revamped Women's Division, & more!From there, I'll look into WWF Results for the month of August covering MSG, The Spectrum, Maple Leaf Gardens, Sam Houston Coliseum, Boston Garden, Nassau Coliseum, The Meadowlands, Montreal Forum, Richfield Coliseum, Los Angeles Sports Arena, and more! Featuring the FINAL MATCH OF BRUNO SAMMARTINO as he teams with Hulk Hogan! Plus, the Paul Boesch Retirement show, Pat Patterson out of retirement, The Snake Returns to action, Bam Bam Bigelow & Ted Dibiase on the road full time, Dynamite Kid Rehabs, Mongolian Stretcher Match, Whipping Matches, Nikolai beats the Warrior(?), David Sammartino back, Chavo Guerrero Debuts, Orton vs. Muraco, RICK MARTEL finds a new partner, & so much more! ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Longtime Canadian Actor, Producer and Comedian Will Arnett joined the OverDrive guys earlier today with his Leafs being in the second round. He touched on the roots of his Leafs fandom, time at Maple Leaf Gardens & why he's afraid to meet his hero Wendel Clark.

The Grenade is back with Episode #86 featiuring tons of news, results, and soundbites for JULY 1987 in the WWF! First, we tackle the latest WWF news including... TOM ZENK QUITTING THE WWF, the WWF's very first Drug Testing Suspensions, David Sammartino back, NEW Women's Champion - The Sensational Sherri, Billy Jack Haynes Injured, Hacksaw Duggan looking for work, Oliver Humperdink headed in, Cpl. Kirchner out, a Bulldog bar fight, the WWF attempts to deregulate pro wrestling in the state of Pennsylvania, & more!From there, I'll look into WWF Results for the month of July covering MSG, The Spectrum, Maple Leaf Gardens, Sam Houston Coliseum, Boston Garden, Nassau Coliseum, The Meadowlands, Richfield Coliseum, Los Angeles Sports Arena, and more! Featuring newcomers like "Ravishing" Rick Rude & The Dingo Warrior, Steamboat's return match vs. NEW IC Champion Honky Tonk Man at MSG, the return of Superstar Graham, Bruno Sammartino fills in some spots, Tag Team Tournaments, The Macho Man battles fellow heels, The Bomb Angels vs. Martin & Kai, Orton vs. Muraco, Patera vs. Orndorff, Bulldogs vs. Demolition, Hogan vs. Khan, Whipping Matches, Lumberjack Matches, and did I mention Soundbites Galore featuring many LOCALIZED PROMOS!!!Available everywhere your Podcast Streaming needs are met.Visit our Podcast Network https://wrestlecopia.comFollow us on Twitter @RasslinGrenadeFollow and LIKE our FACEBOOK PAGE located at https://www.facebook.com/RasslinGrenadeSubscribe to our Youtube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/RasslinGrenade as we continue to add new videos from throughout wrestling history.Please Subscribe to our REVAMPED Patreon account to help keep us going, multiple Tiers to choose from!!! https://www.patreon.com/wrestlecopiaIncludes a $5 “All Access” Tier featuring our Patreon Watch-Along Series, all of Ray Russell's insanely detailed show notes (for the Grenade, Monday Warfare, & Regional Rasslin'), Early Show Releases, REMASTERED editions of the early Grenade episodes including NEW content that was originally edited out! PLUS, monthly DIGITAL DOWLOANDS for your viewing and reading pleasure, and the Patreon Exclusive Watch-Along Series covering past PPVs, Coliseum Videos, SNME's, Clash of the Champions, and more!Listen at your leisure and pick back up later if need be!The Grenade is back with Episode #86 featiuring tons of news, results, and soundbites for JULY 1987 in the WWF! First, we tackle the latest WWF news including... TOM ZENK QUITTING THE WWF, the WWF's very first Drug Testing Suspensions, David Sammartino back, NEW Women's Champion - The Sensational Sherri, Billy Jack Haynes Injured, Hacksaw Duggan looking for work, Oliver Humperdink headed in, Cpl. Kirchner out, a Bulldog bar fight, the WWF attempts to deregulate pro wrestling in the state of Pennsylvania, & more!From there, I'll look into WWF Results for the month of July covering MSG, The Spectrum, Maple Leaf Gardens, Sam Houston Coliseum, Boston Garden, Nassau Coliseum, The Meadowlands, Richfield Coliseum, Los Angeles Sports Arena, and more! Featuring newcomers like "Ravishing" Rick Rude & The Dingo Warrior, Steamboat's return match vs. NEW IC Champion Honky Tonk Man at MSG, the return of Superstar Graham, Bruno Sammartino fills in some spots, Tag Team Tournaments, The Macho Man battles fellow heels, The Bomb Angels vs. Martin & Kai, Orton vs. Muraco, Patera vs. Orndorff, Bulldogs vs. Demolition, Hogan vs. Khan, Whipping Matches, Lumberjack Matches, and did I mention Soundbites Galore featuring many LOCALIZED PROMOS!!! ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

The Grenade is back with Episode #83 featiuring tons of news, results and SOUNDBITES GALORE for JUNE 1987 in the WWF! First, we tackle the latest WWF news including... The FIRING of the Iron Sheik & Hacksaw Duggan, The Rockers are hired... and then fired as well.. Plus, we talk the brand new IC Champion The Honky Tonk Man, Junkyard Dog is back, The Million Dollar Man gimmick begins to develop, I'll break down the Rougeaus/Dino Bravo feud, WWF implements their first drug test, Mr. T RETURNS, Muraco & Orton splitting up, Jerry Lawler suing the WWF, Jimmy Jack Funk loses his eyeball AND his job, Jesse Ventura - Hollywood Bound? And Soundbites galore featuring 40 LOCALIZED PROMOS!!!From there, I'll look into WWF Results for the month of June covering MSG, The Spectrum, Maple Leaf Gardens, Sam Houston Coliseum, Boston Garden, Nassau Coliseum, Richfield Coliseum, The ARCO Arena, and more! Featuring Return TEXAS DEATH MATCHES with WWF Champion Hulk Hogan vs. King Harley Race, Tag Champions The Hart Foundation vs. The British Bulldogs INSIDE A STEEL CAGE, Ken Patera rages war on the Heenan Family, The Can-Ams are coming for the Islanders, the Dingo Warrior arrives, Ted Dibiase turns heel on Houston-in Houston, Bam Bam Bigelow continues to impress, Bruno Sammartino in action, The Jumping Bomb Angels introduce their style to North America, we get our first look at Rick Rude, we salute Cpl. Kirchner for his time in the WWF, Macho Man vs. Honky Tonk in a battle of the heels! All of that, and did I mention Soundbites Galore featuring 40 LOCALIZED PROMOS!!!Available everywhere your Podcast Streaming needs are met.Visit our Podcast Network https://wrestlecopia.comFollow us on Twitter @RasslinGrenadeFollow and LIKE our FACEBOOK PAGE located at https://www.facebook.com/RasslinGrenadeSubscribe to our Youtube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/RasslinGrenade as we continue to add new videos from throughout wrestling history.Please Subscribe to our REVAMPED Patreon account to help keep us going, multiple Tiers to choose from!!! https://www.patreon.com/wrestlecopiaIncludes a $5 “All Access” Tier featuring our Patreon Watch-Along Series, all of Ray Russell's insanely detailed show notes (for the Grenade, Monday Warfare, & Regional Rasslin'), Early Show Releases, REMASTERED editions of the early Grenade episodes including NEW content that was originally edited out! PLUS, monthly DIGITAL DOWLOANDS for your viewing and reading pleasure, and the Patreon Exclusive Watch-Along Series covering past PPVs, Coliseum Videos, SNME's, Clash of the Champions, and more!Listen at your leisure and pick back up later if need be!The Grenade is back with Episode #83 featiuring tons of news, results and SOUNDBITES GALORE for JUNE 1987 in the WWF! First, we tackle the latest WWF news including... The FIRING of the Iron Sheik & Hacksaw Duggan, The Rockers are hired... and then fired as well.. Plus, we talk the brand new IC Champion The Honky Tonk Man, Junkyard Dog is back, The Million Dollar Man gimmick begins to develop, I'll break down the Rougeaus/Dino Bravo feud, WWF implements their first drug test, Mr. T RETURNS, Muraco & Orton splitting up, Jerry Lawler suing the WWF, Jimmy Jack Funk loses his eyeball AND his job, Jesse Ventura - Hollywood Bound? And Soundbites galore featuring 40 LOCALIZED PROMOS!!!From there, I'll look into WWF Results for the month of June covering MSG, The Spectrum, Maple Leaf Gardens, Sam Houston Coliseum, Boston Garden, Nassau Coliseum, Richfield Coliseum, The ARCO Arena, and more! Featuring Return TEXAS DEATH MATCHES with WWF Champion Hulk Hogan vs. King Harley Race, Tag Champions The Hart Foundation vs. The British Bulldogs INSIDE A STEEL CAGE, Ken Patera rages war on the Heenan Family, The Can-Ams are coming for the Islanders, the Dingo Warrior arrives, Ted Dibiase turns heel on Houston-in Houston, Bam Bam Bigelow continues to impress, Bruno Sammartino in action, The Jumping Bomb Angels introduce their style to North America, we get our first look at Rick Rude, we salute Cpl. Kirchner for his time in the WWF, Macho Man vs. Honky Tonk in a battle of the heels! All of that, and did I mention Soundbites Galore featuring 40 LOCALIZED PROMOS!!! ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

The Grenade returns with an insane amount of news, results and SOUNDBITES GALORE for May 1987 in the WWF! First, we tackle the latest WWF news including... Jake Roberts Out Injured, Barry Orton Auto Accident, Jerry Lawler Sues the WWF, The WWF takes the Houston Territory from Paul Boesch, Rick Rude and The Rockers headed in, Dynamite Kid bullies Outback Jack, Jim Barnett Suicide Attempt, SNME Ratings & News, The Islanders turn heel, & Soundbites galore featuring MORE THAN 50 LOCALIZED PROMOS!!! From there, I'll take a deep dive look into WWF Results for the month of May covering MSG, The Spectrum, Maple Leaf Gardens, Sam Houston Coliseum, Boston Garden, Nassau Coliseum, Calgary Saddledome, Mid-South Coliseum, Richfield Coliseum, and more! Featuring WWF Champion Hulk Hogan vs. King Harley Race, IC Champion Ricky Steamboat vs. "Macho Man" Savage INSIDE A STEEL CAGE! Hercules vs. Billy Jack Haynes in a CHAIN MATCH, Tag Champions The Hart Foundation vs. The British Bulldogs ALSO INSIDE A STEEL CAGE! Plus, we say goodbye to Dick Slater, Ken Patera returns to the ring, and we see the debuts of Sam Houston, The One Man Gang, Ted Dibiase, and Bam Bam Bigelow! All of that, and did I mention Soundbites Galore featuring MORE THAN 50 LOCALIZED PROMOS!!!Available everywhere your Podcast Streaming needs are met.Visit our Podcast Network https://wrestlecopia.comFollow us on Twitter @RasslinGrenadeFollow and LIKE our FACEBOOK PAGE located at https://www.facebook.com/RasslinGrenadeSubscribe to our Youtube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/RasslinGrenade as we continue to add new videos from throughout wrestling history.Please Subscribe to our REVAMPED Patreon account to help keep us going, multiple Tiers to choose from!!! https://www.patreon.com/wrestlecopiaIncludes a $5 “All Access” Tier featuring our Patreon Watch-Along Series, all of Ray Russell's insanely detailed show notes (for the Grenade, Monday Warfare, & Regional Rasslin'), Early Show Releases, REMASTERED editions of the early Grenade episodes including NEW content that was originally edited out! PLUS, monthly DIGITAL DOWLOANDS for your viewing and reading pleasure, and the Patreon Exclusive Watch-Along Series covering past PPVs, Coliseum Videos, SNME's, Clash of the Champions, and more!Listen at your leisure and pick back up later if need be! The Grenade returns with an insane amount of news, results and SOUNDBITES GALORE for May 1987 in the WWF! First, we tackle the latest WWF news including... Jake Roberts Out Injured, Barry Orton Auto Accident, Jerry Lawler Sues the WWF, The WWF takes the Houston Territory from Paul Boesch, Rick Rude and The Rockers headed in, Dynamite Kid bullies Outback Jack, Jim Barnett Suicide Attempt, SNME Ratings & News, The Islanders turn heel, & Soundbites galore featuring MORE THAN 50 LOCALIZED PROMOS!!!From there, I'll take a deep dive look into WWF Results for the month of May covering MSG, The Spectrum, Maple Leaf Gardens, Sam Houston Coliseum, Boston Garden, Nassau Coliseum, Calgary Saddledome, Mid-South Coliseum, Richfield Coliseum, and more! Featuring WWF Champion Hulk Hogan vs. King Harley Race, IC Champion Ricky Steamboat vs. "Macho Man" Savage INSIDE A STEEL CAGE! Hercules vs. Billy Jack Haynes in a CHAIN MATCH, Tag Champions The Hart Foundation vs. The British Bulldogs ALSO INSIDE A STEEL CAGE! Plus, we say goodbye to Dick Slater, Ken Patera returns to the ring, and we see the debuts of Sam Houston, The One Man Gang, Ted Dibiase, and Bam Bam Bigelow! All of that, and did I mention Soundbites Galore featuring MORE THAN 50 LOCALIZED PROMOS!!! ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

This week on Squid and the Ultimate Leafs Fan, Mike and Rick are joined by Michael Geddes and Jason Priestley! They discuss topics from their documentary, "Offside: The Harold Ballard Story," including their theories on why Ballard did some of the things he did, him bringing the Muhammad Ali VS George Chuvalo fight in 1966 to Maple Leaf Gardens when Ali was blacklisted in the United States, new things they learned about Ballard while making the documentary, and much more! YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOqcOTChtE4 Show Twitter: https://twitter.com/SquidUlf Show Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/squidandtheulf/ ---------------------------------------------------------------- ULF Twitter: https://twitter.com/ULeafsFan ULF Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ultimateleafsfan ULF Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theultimateleafsfan/?hl=en ----------------------------------------------------------------- Rick's Twitter: https://twitter.com/rickvaive22 Rick's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rickvaive/?hl=en

Do you love your grandfather? Well… Tariq doesn't. Tariq starts off by talking about having nearly 100 first cousins and how big families lead to having to deal with all kinds of problematic people. Listen in as Tariq explains, in detail, why he has a strong dislike for his grandfather and has no respect for him as a man. You might be wondering how that introduction is related to this week's match. Tariq explains that too! Regarding the match, Tariq and Jim give their thoughts on the ramp at Toronto's Maple Leaf Gardens, both George Steele and Kamala and how sometimes a little bit can go a long way. This match had a total of 4 moves and it kept the fans in Toronto on the edge of their seats. Listen to Jim and Tariq explain why this match was able to do so. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sixmantagpodcast/support

Tune in LIVE for the very first episode of 2023! Stoyan's guest is Dr. Ivan Joseph. You might have seen his TEDx talk: "The Skill of Self-Confidence: with over 26 million views, that was named by Forbes as one of the 10 Best TED Talks for Graduates on the Meaning of Life

Graventowners and Bright Eyes Turn-Arounders - what's the ham hock? This weeks brand new season 2 episode is all about someone who has become a big chef in the country kitchen mess hall of Camp Graven; Mister Tom Thompson. Being born in Toronto and never really fitting in in high school, Tom had his consciousness blown wide open when he went with his sister to see U2 at Maple Leaf Gardens on the Unforgettable Fire tour. Having similar experiences at shows ever since, the once mod and metal-obsessed Tom has morphed into a sonic mainstay in the Ottawa music scene and has probably played on an album that your friend released. Having made magical sounds with epic acts like Toque, That's The Spirit, Orienteers, Still Winter Hills, Jim Bryson, Kathleen Edwards and of course yours truly (Graven),  Tom has had the chance to open for and share stages with The Flaming Lips, 54/40. Kim Mitchell, The Grapes of Wrath and just recently Stephen Stanley and Ron Hawkins from Lowest of the Low and Chris Brown from Bourbon Tabernacle Choir. Tom is also a  podcast producer for Library Archives of Canada and now runs his own deep dive music podcast called TNT's Hit Songs from Mars. It was a pleasure to chat with this lovely human today.And you can catch Tom and I on tour this weekend, as the gritty Graven duo:DEC 9: Linsmore Tavern - Toronto, ONopening for Stephen StanleyDEC 10: Hotel Wolfe Island - Wolfe Island, ONopening for Stephen StanleyInfo, tickets and times here.#graventownpodcast#TomThompsonTheToneAdmiralCatch me in a town near you by visting my website to see where I'm playing. If people can hate for no reason, I can love for no reason - and I love you. Thanks for stopping by Graventown. Yer always welcome here. As a full time independent artist, you can support me by joining my SUPER RAD subscription service at https://ko-fi.com/gravencanada

On Friday, the Supreme Court of Canada said the country's nearly 20-year-old federal sex-offender registry, in its current form, does more harm to individual liberty than it does to protect vulnerable children and women. That brought strong reactions on both sides. Gary Kruze is the brother of Martin Kruze, who was the first male to step forward about the sexual abuse at Maple Leaf Gardens. Gary joined Alex to talk about Martin's story, and the ruling that came down from the court.

This episode of the Grenade is divided into 3 exciting parts! First, host Ray Russell takes a look at the latest news for March 1987 in the WWF while heading into WrestleMania 3. We discuss Missy Hyatt & Missy's Manor complete with Soundbites from her first 3 unaired shows, WrestleMania ticket sales & PPV/Closed Circuit capabilities, WWF Ice Cream Bars, the Frank Tunney Memorial Tag Tournament, Andre the Giant's health, SNME changing dates, and more! From there, it's a deep dive into Show Results for March as we breakdown all of the interesting matches, unique opponents, random partners, and show results for the likes of Boston Garden, Maple Leaf Gardens, The Spectrum, TV Tapings, and so much more! Plus, we talk JYD no showing events, Dynamite Kid's return to the ring, Jake Roberts has something "long & hard", Da Crusher vs. Bobby Heenan in the WWF, 6-Man Eliminations, The Wizard quits, Dan Spivey Injured, Mr. Fuji acquires Demolition & Kamala, Ken Resnick finishes up, Dino Bravo bleaches his hair, Koko pins the Macho Man,The Can-Am Connection forced to work FIVE TIMES in one night, Roddy Piper being ELECTROCUTED, & soundbites galore!Finally, our last stop, the main course of the episode... WE GO BACK IN TIME TO REVIEW THE MARCH 14, 1987 EDITION OF SATURDAY NIGHT'S MAIN EVENT featuring a 20-MAN BATTLE ROYAL including both WWF CHAMPION HULK HOGAN AND ANDRE THE GIANT!!! Plus, The Macho Man defends his IC Title vs. George "The Animal" Steele with ELIZABETH on the line as a "PRIZE"!!!Available everywhere your Podcast Streaming needs are met.Visit our Podcast Network https://wrestlecopia.comFollow us on Twitter @RasslinGrenade and be automatically entered into our FREE PRIZE GIVEAWAY CONTESTS!Follow and LIKE our FACEBOOK PAGE located at https://www.facebook.com/RasslinGrenadeSubscribe to our Youtube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/RasslinGrenade as we continue to add new videos from throughout wrestling history.Please Subscribe to our REVAMPED Patreon account to help keep us going, a dozen Tiers to choose from!!! https://www.patreon.com/wrestlecopiaIncludes a $5 “All Access” Tier featuring SIX GIFTS FOR $5! Including our Patreon Watch-Along Series, all of Ray Russell's insanely detailed show notes (for both the Grenade and Monday Warfare), unedited TR SHOCKS episodes, Early Show Releases, REMASTERED editions of the early Grenade episodes including NEW content that was originally edited out! PLUS, now a sixth gift of monthly DIGITAL DOWLOANDS for your viewing and reading pleasure!Listen at your leisure and pick back up later if need be! Timestamps below for easy navigation.WWF NEWS - MARCH 1987Ray Russell takes a look at the latest news for March 1987 in the WWF while heading into WrestleMania 3. We discuss Missy Hyatt & Missy's Manor complete with Soundbites from her first 3 unaired shows, WrestleMania ticket sales & PPV/Closed Circuit capabilities, WWF Ice Cream Bars, the Frank Tunney Memorial Tag Tournament, Andre the Giant's health, SNME changing dates, and more! WWF HOUSE SHOW & TV TAPING RESULTS (00:25:11)It's a deep dive into Show Results for March as we breakdown all of the interesting matches, unique opponents, random partners, and show results for the likes of Boston Garden, Maple Leaf Gardens, The Spectrum, TV Tapings, and so much more! Plus, we talk JYD no showing events, Dynamite Kid's return to the ring, Jake Roberts has something "long & hard", Da Crusher vs. Bobby Heenan in the WWF, 6-Man Eliminations, The Wizard quits, Dan Spivey Injured, Mr. Fuji acquires Demolition & Kamala, Ken Resnick finishes up, Dino Bravo bleaches his hair, Koko pins the Macho Man, The Can-Am Connection forced to work FIVE TIMES in one night, Roddy Piper being ELECTROCUTED, & soundbites galore!For an easy way to follow along as we look into show results, feel free to go to http://www.thehistoryofwwe.com/87.htm and scroll along!WWF SATURDAY NIGHT'S MAIN EVENT - MARCH 14th, 1987 (02:29:15)Finally, our last stop, the main course of the episode... SATURDAY NIGHT'S MAIN EVENT #10 featuring... IC CHAMP "MACHO MAN" RANDY SAVAGE VS. GEORGE STEELE - WINNER GETS ELIZABETH!!! 20-MAN BATTLE ROYAL FEATURING... SIKA, BILLY JACK HAYNES, "OUTLAW" RON BASS, THE ISLANDERS, THE HONKY TONK MAN, THE KILLER BEES, "NATURAL" BUTCH REED, DEMOLITION, HILLBILLY JIM, NIKOLAI VOLKOFF, KOKO B. WARE, HERCULES, BLACKJACK MULLIGAN, "LEAPING" LANNY POFFO, "MR, WONDERFUL" PAUL ORNDORFF, ANDRE THE GIANT... AND WWF CHAMP HULK HOGAN JAKE "THE SNAKE" ROBERTS VS. KING KONG BUNDY TAG CHAMPS HART FOUNDATION VS. TITO SANTANA & DAN SPIVEY - The Hart's First Title Defense on TV! RICKY "THE DRAGON" STEAMBOAT VS. THE IRON SHEIK  PLUS DANNY DAVIS SHENANIGANS, A SAVAGE/STEAMBOAT CONFRONTATION OR TWO, LANNY POFFO BLEEDS A GUSHER, AND EVEN MORE SOUNDBITES!!! ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

This week on the Take It Home Podcast, John LaRocca is taking another trip back in time to review the WWF show from July 24th, 1988 held at the Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto, Canada.  This seven match card featured a barnburner between the WWF World Champion "Macho Man" Randy Savage and "The Million Dollar Man" Ted DiBiase.  A match that really surprised John was a hard hitting grudge match between Greg "The Hammer" Valentine and Don "The Rock" Muraco.  Enjoy the trip down memory lane with John as he looks at WWF action from 1988.   Join the Patreon for just $5.00 per month here: https://www.patreon.com/fightgamemedia Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/fightgamemedia Join our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1958473677605950 Follow our Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/fightgamemedia Subscribe to our YouTube Page: https://www.youtube.com/c/FightGameMedia Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fightgamemedia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We continue down the Road to WrestleMania 3 as we cover WWF News for February 1987, we take a deep dive into house show results, and tons of soundbites featuring promos from all of the top stars including Bruno Sammartino, "Macho Man" Randy Savage, Jake "The Snake" Roberts, Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat, The Hart Foundation, "Rowdy" Roddy Piper, Junkyard Dog, Demolition, "King" Harley Race, and so many more!Available everywhere your Podcast Streaming App needs are met.Visit our Podcast Network https://wrestlecopia.comFollow us on Twitter @RasslinGrenade and be automatically entered into our FREE PRIZE GIVEAWAY CONTESTS!Follow and LIKE our FACEBOOK PAGE located at https://www.facebook.com/RasslinGrenadeSubscribe to our Youtube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/RasslinGrenade as we continue to add new videos from throughout wrestling history.Please Subscribe to our REVAMPED Patreon account to help keep us going, a dozen Tiers to choose from!!! https://www.patreon.com/wrestlecopiaIncludes a $5 "All Access" Tier featuring SIX GIFTS FOR $5! Including our Patreon Watch-Along Series, all of Ray Russell's insanely detailed show notes (for both the Grenade and Monday Warfare), unedited TR SHOCKS episodes, Early Show Releases, REMASTERED editions of the early Grenade episodes including NEW content that was originally edited out! PLUS, now a sixth gift of monthly DIGITAL DOWLOANDS for your viewing and reading pleasure!Listen at your leisure and pick back up later if need be! This episode of the Grenade is divided into 2 exciting parts! First, host Ray Russell takes a look at the latest news and notes for February of 1987 in the WWF featuring "Rowdy" Roddy Piper's future, Ken Patera's Return, Ken Resnick on thin ice, The Frank Tunney Memorial Tournament, Dynamite Kid injury update, Andre's "Giant" Title belt, Hulk Hogan doesn't care for the paparazzi BROTHER, Outback Jack is GREEN, "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan arrives, Mike Rotunda quits, Who is Samantha Fox?, and more WrestleMania 3 news than you can shake a stick at!From there, it's a deep dive into the house show circuit for February of the year as we breakdown all of the interesting matches, unique opponents, random partners, and show results for the likes of MSG, Boston Garden, The Philadelphia Spectrum, Maple Leaf Gardens, the Montreal Forum, the Meadowlands, and so much more! We talk 6-Man Elimination Matches, Paul Orndorff as Kim Chee, SAVAGE VS. BRUNO, and Soundbites Galore! For an easy way to follow along as we look into show results, feel free to go to http://www.thehistoryofwwe.com/87.htm and scroll along! ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

This week on the DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Audio Show, host Karl Stern from WhenItWasCool.com takes a look back at the Queensbury Athletic Club which set the foundation for pro wrestling in Toronto, Canada and eventually gave rise to pro wrestling at the Maple Leaf Gardens. In the 1930s the Queensbury Athletic Club launch what would become one of the most influential wrestling territories in the world and set the stage for one of pro wrestling's most famous venues.

Robert Lindsy Milne is recognized across the continent as one of the most insightful Psychic Intuitive Counselors of his time. He has traveled the world giving insight with his Psychic Intuitive Sessions to tens of thousands of people.Robert Lindsy Milne - "For as long as I can remember I have sensed things. At first feelings and vibrations in my immediate surroundings. As I grew older I was able to perceive and sense real and identifiable energy and vibrations from the people I encountered.By the time I was 9 years old I discovered my life's calling. I didn't know what it would be called, but I knew what I was going to do.My father was a big Toronto Maple Leafs fan and like all red-blooded Canadian boys I wanted to be just like my dad. My dad wanted me to have the opportunity he missed. He wanted to play in the NHL.We often went to the Toronto Leafs games. One Thursday night in March of 1958, Toronto and Boston were in the Stanley Cup semi-finals. The series was tied at a game each and the score of the game was 1-1 at the end of the 3rd period.When the teams came on the ice for the first overtime period, I was immediately drawn to number 17 Gary Eiman… I knew he was going to score. It was so real to me, I jumped up and started cheering… In my mind the Leafs had won the game. The biggest problem was the game hadn't started! I was yelling and cheering. Unbeknownst to me, the building was silent but for my cheers.My father put his hand on my shoulder and said, “Settle down.” It was then I realized nobody, not even Garry Eiman knew he was going to score.It was at that moment in time, a light turned on…”Other People Think Differently Than Me”The referee dropped the puck. The first overtime period began. A few minutes later number 17 hopped over the boards on to the ice, the puck was passed to him and all of Maple Leaf Gardens erupted with cheers for their winning team… Garry Eiman had scored the winning overtime goal.I sat in awe and wonderment. My life had changed with the drop of a puck. 18,000 people were cheering, light bulbs flashing all around me…it was ( to the awareness of a 9 year old) welcoming me to my life's calling.As I entered my teen years I began sensing clearer images and ideas. I started to practice using my senses and abilities every day. My awareness became broader.From that time until this, I have continuously strived to be the best I can be. To grow and develop into the man I am proud to be.Expanding my psychic senses to the best they can be; to perform my talent, giving service to humankind is my life's calling.I've been a professional psychic for my entire work life. Performing psychic readings has been my purpose. There have been short periods where I have worked at other jobs, but never longer than a few months.I started doing readings as a career at “The Cozy Tea Room” in Toronto in the mid 1960s. At the time, the type of work, the way it was done, the standards of the environment where it was done, was hardly recognized as a job let alone a career.Regardless of the way it was done, the standards of our work, the old and faded environment we did it in or the level of respect we received, it provided the opportunity to do psychic readings for thousands of people from diverse backgrounds. Some days at “The Cozy” I would see up to 30 people.I knew the Cozy Tea Room was only the beginning of my career. I was bright enough to recognize the incredible learning opportunity the Cozy Tea Room gave me.I soaked it up like a sponge.I have the work ethic of a plough horse and an inherited Scottish tenacity also known as stubbornness. I practiced my craft and honed my raw psychic ability. I developed a discipline, focus and most importantly I had the chance to do 100s of psychic readings a month.I became known as the Hippy Reader. I was the youngest reader in the city, probably in the country and not yet 20 years old. People came from all around to have a reading from me. I was one of the Cozy Tea Rooms most popular readers (and one of biggest earners I might add)It wasn't all rainbows and roses at The Cozy. I was Mrs. Cox, the owner's problem child too. There were many, good readers at The Cozy Tea, but few got out of the tea rooms.The Cozy Tea Room's business was to sell “The Telling of Fortunes”. However, there was a Witchcraft Act in the Canadian Criminal Code, Section 326, and in its essence it states “Fortune Telling” for money is against the law!Mrs. Cox, by-passed the law by selling sandwiches, a couple of cookies, a pot of tea and the Fortune Telling was, as the sign on the wall said, “For Entertainment Only”.Thinking back on it now, I laugh. Imagine the Cozy Tea Room being busted by the Vice Squad, taking us all out in hand cuffs for reading tea leaves. I can, in my minds eye, see Mrs. Cox, Pearl the waitress, and all the psychic readers in handcuffs along with the little old ladies who dropped by to get their “fortunes told” being charged with “found in”. What would they have taken as evidence I wonder? The used tea leaves?When a customer placed their order for tea, they also picked their reader. Many a day, I came to work, and there was a line up of 10 or 12 people waiting to get a reading from the shoeless long haired “Hippy Reader” also known as Bob Milne."

A hockey cathedral, Maple Leaf Gardens was built in The Great Depression by Conn Smythe and it would not only be the home of the Maple Leafs during their 11 Stanley Cups, but where The Beatles would play, where Winston Churchill spoke, where Canada battled the Russians in the Summit Series, and where Muhammed Ali foughtBoris Fundraiser: https://gofund.me/e2b58b58Support: patreon.com/canadaehxDonate: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/craigUDonate: canadaehx.com (Click Donate)E-mail: craig@canadaehx.comTwitter: twitter.com/craigbairdInstagram: @Bairdo37YouTube: youtube.com/c/canadianhistoryehx

This week on the DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Audio Show, host Karl Stern from WhenItWasCool.com takes a look back at the Queensbury Athletic Club which set the foundation for pro wrestling in Toronto, Canada and eventually gave rise to pro wrestling at the Maple Leaf Gardens. In the 1930s the Queensbury Athletic Club launch what would become one of the most influential wrestling territories in the world and set the stage for one of pro wrestling's most famous venues.

Sports facilities in Canada have a wide variety of names — like Rogers Centre, Rogers Place and, er, Rogers Arena. South of the border, there's the Crypto.com Arena and the Smoothie King Center. Companies have been buying stadium names for decades. So, what are they actually getting for their money Paul Haavardsrud looks at why a name like the Maple Leaf Gardens is out, and the KFC Yum! Center is in

In this edition of the Grenade, we separate the show into 3 intriguing parts! JOIN US AS WE REVIEW THE JANUARY 3, 1987 EDITION OF SATURDAY NIGHT'S MAIN EVENT featuring WWF Champion Hulk Hogan defending against Paul "Mr. Wonderful" Orndorff inside the big blue STEEL CAGE!!! Plus, the return of Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat! We talk January 87 WWF News. Ray shares his thoughts on Demolition being referred to as Road Warrior ripoffs. Plus, we a do a deep dive into the house show circuit for January of the year as we breakdown all of the interesting matches, unique opponents, random partners, and show results for the likes of MSG, Boston Garden, Maple Leaf Gardens, The Philadelphia Spectrum, the Montreal Forum, and so much more! All of that, and SOUNDBITES GALORE!!! SPECIAL ALERT: THE WRESTLECOPIA PODCAST NETWORK & THE WRESTLING MEMORY GRENADE ARE IN THE SEARCH FOR NEW COHOSTS TO CREATE CONTENT! IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN JOINING WRESTLECOPIA AND BECOMING A FULL-TIME OR PART-TIME (OR EVEN A GUEST COHOST) PLEASE CONTACT RAY RUSSELL AT WRESTLECOPIA@GMAIL.COM OR DM ME ON TWITTER @RasslinGrenadeAvailable everywhere your Podcast Streaming App needs are met.Visit our Podcast Network https://wrestlecopia.comFollow us on Twitter @RasslinGrenade and be automatically entered into our FREE PRIZE GIVEAWAY CONTESTS!Please Follow and LIKE our FACEBOOK PAGE located at https://www.facebook.com/RasslinGrenadeSubscribe to our Youtube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/RasslinGrenade as we continue to add new weekly videos of wrestling history's past.Please Subscribe to our REVAMPED Patreon account to help keep us going, more than a dozen Tiers to choose from!!! https://www.patreon.com/wrestlecopiaIncludes a $5 "All Access" Tier featuring FIVE GIFTS FOR $5! Including our Patreon Watch-Along Series, all of Ray Russell's insanely detailed  show notes (for both the Grenade and Monday Warfare), unedited TR SHOCKS episodes, Early Show Releases, and now REMASTERED editions of the early Grenade episodes including NEW content that was originally edited out!Listen at your leisure and pick back up later if need be! Timestamps below for easy navigation.This episode of the Grenade is divided into 3 exciting parts! First, host Ray Russell takes a look at the latest news and notes for January of 1987 in the WWF. From there, it's a deep dive into the house show circuit for January of the year as we breakdown all of the interesting matches, unique opponents, random partners, and show results for the likes of MSG, Boston Garden, Maple Leaf Gardens, The Philadelphia Spectrum, the Montreal Forum, and so much more! Finally, our last stop, the main course of the episode... WE GO BACK IN TIME TO REVIEW THE JANUARY 3, 1987 EDITION OF SATURDAY NIGHT'S MAIN EVENT featuring WWF Champion Hulk Hogan defending against Paul "Mr. Wonderful" Orndorff inside the big blue STEEL CAGE!!! Plus, the return of Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat! All of that, and SOUNDBITES GALORE!!! WWF NEWS - JANUARY 1987 DEMOLITION ARRIVE!!! Ray Russell gives his take on the decades-old question... Were Demolition really a Road Warriors ripoff? Ray doesn't think so and explains his reasons why. Roddy Piper Retirement Rumors WrestleMania 3 finds a venue, as the card begins to take shape! The injury to Dynamite Kid opens the door for the Can-Am Connection "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan finishing up in the UWF Hot Free Agent - Bam Bam Bigelow TV Ratings - The WWF vs. Bill Watts' UWF A Montreal feud rekindled - BRAVO VS. THE ROUGEAUS Jake "The Snake" Roberts turning babyface Wrestling Goes Hollywood as the movie "BODYSLAM" is set to be released starring Roddy Piper & Tama of the Islanders. Plus, Ricky Steamboat & Big John Studd do a little acting as well! And we learn of plans for a HULK HOGAN movie, as we ponder who can take over as the lead draw for the WWF should the Hulkster take time away from the ring. Plus, we talk WWF Ice Cream Bars, Athletic Commissions banning snakes, and more! WWF HOUSE SHOW RESULTS (00:45:12) It's a deep dive into the House Show results from the WWF in January 1987 as we look at results from New York's MSG, the Boston Garden, Philly's Spectrum, Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto, St. Louis at the Kiel, the Montreal Forum, Nassau Coliseum, the Meadowlands, the Los Angeles Sports Arena, Detroit's Joe Louis Arena, Chicago's Rosemont Horizon, and much, much more! The WWF expands to 3 shows per night, thus expanding its roster in the process as we welcome the likes of Outback Jack, Ron Bass, Brad Rheingans, and DEMOLITION! Ricky Steamboat returns to seek revenge on the Macho Man The WWF goes head-to-head with Jim Crockett Promotions in Philadelphia on the same night! How did each promotion fair? Hulk Hogan headlines the A-shows as he defends the WWF Title vs. "Ugandan Headhunter" Kamala Davey Boy Smith tries out a variety of tag team partners to substitute for The Dynamite Kid, including Bruno Sammartino, Roddy Piper, JYD, Billy Jack Haynes, and Da Crusher! The Junkyard Dog begins "no showing" random events, which doesn't bode well for his future with Titan. "Duke of Dorchester" Pete Doherty wins a match! Jake Roberts challenges Hulk Hogan in Providence, one of only two markets where the infamous DDT on the Snake Pit aired. DA CRUSHER makes a few random house show appearances! In a real piece of WWF history... "Rowdy" Roddy Piper suffers only his second of three pinfall losses during his WWF run from 1984 - 1992, when Adrian Adonis pins the Hot Rod with the help of Guest Referee Andre the Giant! Vince sticks it to the NWA by creating his own Bunkhouse Battle Royals to go up against JCP's "Bunkhouse Stampede" events.  JYD incites a juvenile riot in Toronto The Wizard and "Chaka Khan's" Tooth Danny Davis' antics backfire on the Hart Foundation Howard Finkel celebrates 10 years with the WWF! Bruno Sammartino is gunning for Randy Savage, the piece of SHLIME! The women wrestlers return for some events Some hidden gems as the Can-Am Connection have a great tag team match vs. The Dream Team, and Koko B. Ware goes the full 20-minute distance with The Magnificent Muraco Jake "The Snake" wrestles fellow heels, including King Kong Bundy, Mr. Wonderful & The Macho Man! Vince outdraws the NWA in St. Louis Lots of unique matches, random teams, interesting results, and localized promo soundbites from the wrestlers hyping the events! WWF SUPERSTARS 86 "YEAR IN REVIEW" & GUESS THE WRESTLERS CONTEST! (02:35:11) We take a quick look at the Jan. 3, 1987 episode of WWF Superstars. A special Year in Review Episode Ray calls an audible and randomly creates a "Name the Wrestlers" Contest from a special "NEW YEAR'S RESOLUTION" Soundbite. Be the first to identify all of the wrestlers in the soundbite (in order of appearance) and win a FREE Autographed 8x10 of the Honky Tonk Man! WWF SATURDAY NIGHT'S MAIN EVENT - JANUARY 3rd, 1987 (02:41:33)We have a blast analyzing every aspect of SNME, from the open-ended finish of Hogan vs. Orndorff to Ricky Steamboat's Return. Loaded with soundbites, Matches include... WWF Champion Hulk Hogan vs. Mr. Wonderful - Inside a STEEL CAGE IC Champion Randy "Macho Man" Savage vs. George "The Animal" Steele "Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs. "The Adorable" Adrian Adonis The Junkyard Dog vs. "King" Harley Race Blackjack Mulligan vs. Jimmy Jack Funk - In the "Battle for Texas" Plus, Referee Danny Davis continues his questionable officiating, we witness our very first TIE in a Steel Cage Match and the RETURN of RICKY "THE DRAGON" STEAMBOAT! ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

In September 1980, after touring behind their most successful album to date, Permanent Waves, Rush convened at Ronnie Hawkins' studio in a bucolic setting in Canada where they set about creating their landmark release, Moving Pictures. On April 15th, the band and Ume released the 40th anniversary edition with a complete concert -- recorded at Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto on March 25th, 1981

In September 1980, after touring behind their most successful album to date, Permanent Waves, Rush convened at Ronnie Hawkins' studio in a bucolic setting in Canada where they set about creating their landmark release, Moving Pictures. On April 15th, the band and Ume released the 40th anniversary edition with a complete concert -- recorded at Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto on March 25th, 1981

In September 1980, after touring behind their most successful album to date, Permanent Waves, Rush convened at Ronnie Hawkins' studio in a bucolic setting in Canada where they set about creating their landmark release, Moving Pictures. On April 15th, the band and Ume released the 40th anniversary edition with a complete concert -- recorded at Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto on March 25th, 1981

In September 1980, after touring behind their most successful album to date, Permanent Waves, Rush convened at Ronnie Hawkins' studio in a bucolic setting in Canada where they set about creating their landmark release, Moving Pictures. On April 15th, the band and Ume released the 40th anniversary edition with a complete concert -- recorded at Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto on March 25th, 1981

In September 1980, after touring behind their most successful album to date, Permanent Waves, Rush convened at Ronnie Hawkins' studio in a bucolic setting in Canada where they set about creating their landmark release, Moving Pictures. On April 15th, the band and Ume released the 40th anniversary edition with a complete concert -- recorded at Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto on March 25th, 1981

The Hogan Era podcast episode 34 is all about Nikolai Volkoff and one of the biggest rivalries ever in the WWE.The most significant name in professional wrestler history is Hulk Hogan. Hulk was not only the greatest star in his era but also one of the greatest ever to grace the WWE ring. Hulk was the face of WWE in the 1980s as well as early 1990s until he departed for WCW.The Hulk Hogan vs. Nikolai Volkoff rivalry is considered by many to be one of the most important in professional wrestling history. Today host John Poz will breakdown one of the most significant feuds in WWE history from King of the Ring to SNME to Maple Leaf Gardens to all points in between. This is the Nikolai Volkoff feud episode!Follow us on Twitter and IG @TwoManPowerTrip

The Players' Championship is well underway. Kevin provides the latest on what he's seeing on the ground and talks about how they've renovated Maple Leaf Gardens, now the Mattamy Athletic Centre. They also wonder if fatigue might be setting in for some of the teams and give their picks for the weekend.This podcast is produced by Amil Delic and Warren Hansen, recorded and mixed by Mike Rogerson, and hosted by Kevin Martin, Warren Hansen and Jim Jerome. Production support by Jonathan Brazeau.The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates. 

This week guest is Heather ‘Foster' Kjollesdal. Heather is currently the Dressing Room Coordinator for both Metallica and The Rolling Stones. Heather's job is essentially to take care of the band and ensuring that they have everything they need while on tour. Heather started working in The Industry when she got a summer job while in high school as a dishwasher. Within a few months, Heather was being trained on the line as a cook. At age 18, Heather moved on to a new summer job at a catering company that catered all the concerts and major events in Toronto as both cook and dining room service. This included venues such as Massey Hall, Maple Leaf Gardens, Exhibition Stadium on the CNE grounds and many more. The company catered every show or event that came through Toronto from Bette Midler to the Indy car race, to Guns N Roses with Metallica, The Rolling Stones, etc. After the summer job ended, Heather attended university and worked at various restaurants as a line cook. Once Heather completed her post secondary education, she returned to Toronto and worked various jobs. Several years later in 2002, Heather got a call from the catering company she had previously worked for and they had asked her to go on tour with he Rolling Stones as the front of house caterer for the crew. This launched Heather's career, and she has never looked back. Some of the notable acts and tours that Heather has worked for include the following: 2003 - 2004 Metallica dressing rooms 2005 - U2 rehearsal in Vancouver for a month as crew caterer 2005-2007 The Rolling Stones dressing room caterer 2007 Van Halen tour management - Canadian tour 2008 John Mellencamp crew caterer - Canadian tour 2008 -present Metallica dressing room coordinator 2012 - present The Rolling Stones dressing room coordinator Links @the_industry_podcast email us: info@theindustrypodcast.club Podcast Artwork by Zak Hannah zakhannah.com

This week we sit down with the man who ESPN named "The Ultimate Leafs Fan," and while he doesn't consider himself to be any more "Ultimate" than the countless hard working Toronto Maple Leafs fans scattered across the country, he understands why his diligent collection of Leafs memorabilia which he amassed over 50 years has earned him that title. Mike Wilson started as a fan but turned into an icon almost overnight when the world learned about his basement which housed a multi-million dollar collection of Toronto Maple Leafs memorabilia ranging from the ACTUAL turnstiles from Maple Leaf Gardens, to the original player contract of Tim Horton. Mike shares his stories of how he got into collecting, why he decided to sell his collection, and why he ultimately decided to get into the world of appraisals and collectable consulting! Plus, he regales us with tales of his year-long commitment to attending EVERY live Toronto Maple Leafs game (Home AND Away) in a single season. Make sure to check out his website where you can purchase his books, find out more information about him, or listen to his podcast "The Squid and The Ultimate Leafs Fan" which he hosts with Rick Vaive! https://www.ultimateleafsfan.com/ You can follow Mike on Twitter (@ULeafsFan), Instagram (@TheUltimateLeafsFan), or learn about his sports appraisal services at https://www.ultimatesportsappraiser.com/ Send your thoughts, comments, and questions to SignOffPod@Frameworth.com Twitter: @FrameworthSports Instagram: @FrameworthSport Mikey's Twitter: @RetrogradeMikey www.frameworth.com

In our 104th show, we learn of a trade between the Red Wings and Seals, we hear of a tongue-in-cheek plan to host the Stanley Cup finals at the Orange Bowl in Miami Florida, and Harold Ballard assumed control at Maple Leaf Gardens, a day that will forever live in infamy for Maple Leafs Fans.  Support hockey research and get exclusive BONUS podcast episodes! http://patreon.com/hockey50years Twitter: http://twitter.com/hockey50years Web: http://hockey50yearsago.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices