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Johnson Wagner is a 3x Winner on the PGA TOUR, and a 2x Winner on The Korn Ferry Tour who has turned to Radio and Television Broadcasting. Formerly with The Golf Channel, Johnson has joined CBS Sports as an on-course announcer and he joins Mark Immelman to share lessons from his life in golf, his wins and his losses, and things he has seen the best in golf do. "Wags" discusses the following: NCAA College Golf and Lessons Learned at Virginia Tech Turning Pro and knowing when to do so Winning on the PGA TOUR The Value of a Positive Attitude in Golf Making the Best of Bad Situations Bouncing Back from Failure Finding and Honing a "Go-To" Shot Chipping, Pitching and a good Short-Game Draws vs. Fades and Shot-making Tips for Playing Under Pressure, and Advice for Parents of Young Golfers Johnson brings years of tournament golf experience, and shares wisdom and insight bound to help you play your best when it matters most. Download and share with your friends, or subscribe to Mark Immelman and watch on YouTube.
In this episode, Jon and Adam explore one of the most common reasoning errors in golf instruction: false dichotomies. Many debates in golf are framed as “either/or” arguments—technique vs feel, steep vs shallow, mechanics vs athleticism—when the reality is far more nuanced. Jon and Adam break down how these faulty binaries show up in instruction, social media discussions, and the way golfers interpret advice. They explain why this type of thinking can slow improvement and create unnecessary confusion for players trying to get better. The episode offers a more balanced framework for evaluating golf ideas without falling into the trap of choosing sides. Thank you to our show sponsors Pockethose and Ethos Life Insurance This episode is brought to you by Pocket Hose, the world's #1 expandable hose. The Pocket Hose Copper Head swivels 360° to prevent kinks and expands instantly for full water flow—then shrinks back down for easy storage when you're done. For a limited time, text SWEET to 64000 to get a FREE pocket pivot and 10-pattern sprayer with the purchase of any size Copper Head hose. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. • Protect your family's financial future with life insurance through Ethos. Ethos makes the process simple and 100% online—you can get a quote in seconds and apply in as little as 10 minutes, with coverage options up to $3 million and some policies starting around $30 per month. There's no medical exam required—just answer a few health questions online to get started. Learn more and get your free quote at https://ethos.com/SWEETSPOT Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
There has long been a complicated relationship between golfers and lifting weights, often featuring baked in misunderstandings of the how and why surrounding lifting in the first place. In this episode, LKD breaks down who on the tour bench presses the most and why it helps the golf swing to lift weights. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Golf shafts bend, twist, droop, and deflect during the golf swing and most golfers have NO idea how much this impacts their ball flight.In this podcast, Mike Granato & Shaun Webb from Athletic Motion Golf sit down with Michael “Nipper” Nef, President and CEO of GEARS Golf, the most advanced golf swing motion capture system in the world. GEARS has captured millions of golf swings, including hundreds of thousands from PGA Tour players, giving researchers unprecedented insight into how the body and golf club actually move during a swing.We break down the science of shaft droop, torque, and deflection, why most golfers misunderstand how shafts behave, and how GEARS technology measures both body motion and club data simultaneously... something no other system can do with the same accuracy.Michael explains how GEARS measures:- Shaft bending, twisting, and drooping- Clubhead delivery and face angle- Body joint motion during the swing- Dynamic lie angle and how it affects shot shapeWe also dive deep into the GEARS Curve (sometimes called the Nipper Curve) — a concept showing why every club in your bag should be treated as a completely different tool during club fitting.If you've ever wondered:- Why long irons tend to go right- Why wedges sometimes pull left- Why traditional club fitting can miss critical variables- How PGA Tour players dial in equipment…this conversation will completely change how you think about the golf swing.Whether you're a golfer, coach, club fitter, or golf tech enthusiast, this episode explains the hidden physics behind the golf swing and how modern motion capture technology is revolutionizing instruction and equipment fitting.
Robert Lee is a British Professional golfer and a former winner on the DP World (European) Tour. He is now one of the leading voices in golf and an announcer and analyst for Sky Sports Golf. Rob joins Mark Immelman to share stories and insights from his 40+ years as a Tour Professional. He also dives into the careers and play of the European Tour's "Big Five” - Severiano Ballesteros, Sandy Lyle, Ian Woosnam, Nick Faldo and Bernhard Langer - and explains lessons you can learn from them: Seve Ballesteros - The Short Game and the Grip Sandy Lyle - Balance and a Simple and Reliable Golf-swing Ian Woosnam - Swing Speed and an Aggressive Mindset Nick Faldo - Focus and a Selective Memory, and Bernhard Langer - Clear Thinking, Positive Use of the Mind and Course Management and Planning. Learn from 5 Hall-of-Fame legends with Robert Lee. He also elaborates on major events like The Masters and The Open Championship. Download and share this podcast with your friends and be sure to watch in on YouTube by searching and subscribing to Mark Immelman
Two-time Players Champion Hal Sutton joins as this week's guest and he came armed with some incredible takes, plus a legendary story about what Tiger Woods said to him in 2000. We also make our picks for TPC Sawgrass and break down a wild back-nine battle between Daniel Berger and Akshay Bhatia, who the internet wants to investigate for anchoring. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
There has never been more information available to a golfer who wants to improve as there is now. But how can you separate the good information from the bad? And perhaps even harder: in the good information, how can you know what's relevant for you? In this episode, Mark, Lou, and Greg bring their different perspectives to bear on these questions. Mark, as one of the first to use YouTube for golf instruction, is keenly aware of the gimmicks that are abundant in golf instruction media. Lou is an avid amateur who wants to improve his game and loves to learn. And Greg reminds us that even pro golfers will flip through Instagram, hoping to find a feel or a tweak to unlock some higher level of performance.If you have a question you want covered on the pod, please submit here: https://www.hackitoutgolf.com/contact/Listeners can also leave us a voicemail! https://www.hackitoutgolf.com/voicemail/Where to find us:Mark Crossfield's weekly newsletter: https://www.crossfieldgolf.com/subscribeMark Crossfield on Twitter: https://twitter.com/4golfonlineMark Crossfield on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/4golfonlineLou Stagner's weekly newsletter: https://newsletter.loustagnergolf.com/subscribeLou Stagner on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LouStagnerGreg Chalmers on Twitter: https://twitter.com/GregChalmersPGAThe Hack It Out Golf Podcast on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HackItOutGolfSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Is your golf swing stuck in the past? In Part 3 of "The Rebuild," I'm back in the bay with Quinn Vilneff, Class A PGA of Canada Professional at Gowanus Golf Club in Vancouver. We've fixed the chipping issues, so now it's time to tackle the full swing. The one that's been holding me back for years. If you struggle with pulls, wipey fades, or feel like you just can't compress the ball, this lesson is for you. Quinn breaks down why my 61-year-old baseball background is fighting my golf swing and gives me three simple, actionable feels to finally get my sequencing right. We go deep on Smash Factor, Center of Mass, ground reaction forces, and the "kinematic sequence," but Quinn makes it simple. The result? I gained 15+ yards with my 7-iron almost instantly just by moving my body differently. Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then why not watch this episode on The ModGolf YouTube channel! ---> https://youtu.be/YKW9Nqjhw24 or click on the image to add some video to the sounds and words. Episode Chapters 0:00 - Intro: From Short Game to Full Swing 1:30 - Smash Factor 101: What Rory's Driver Controversy Teaches Us 4:45 - The BIG Diagnosis: ** Where is My Pelvis at Impact? **8:15 - The "Dipping" Problem & Trail Leg Extension 10:00 - The Mountain Analogy: Why Your Old Swing Never Dies 13:30 - Golf Swing Sequencing Explained (Hands → Arms → Shoulders → Hips) 16:45 - The "Bump" Drill: Getting Left Sooner 20:30 - Ground Reaction Forces: Using the Ground Like a Pro 24:15 - Creating Space: Why Your Hips Are Blocking Your Swing 28:00 - ** The "Third Grade Bump" Live Drill **31:00 - Exaggeration is Key: Rehearsing vs. Swinging 35:00 - 7-Iron Results: The Launch Monitor Doesn't Lie (+15 Yards!) 39:00 - Preseason Drill: The Yoga Ball Move (Indoor Training) 41:00 - Part 4 Preview: The Driver (The Club I Dread) What You'll Learn in This Golf Lesson: • The real reason you flip or scoop at impact (and how to fix it with your body, not your hands). • The simple "Trail Leg Extension" feel that stops you from dipping down. • How getting your center of mass in front of the ball changes your club path instantly. • The one indoor winter drill to improve your swing sequence without hitting balls. • Why golf fitness (with Cameron Barkley) and golf instruction must work together for all golfers, but especially for older ones like me. RELATED VIDEOS & RESOURCES
If you've ever wondered how AI golf coaching actually works, this episode of the Athletic Motion Golf podcast with Mike Granato & Shaun Webb breaks it down in detail. We sit down with the creator of the Swing Coach app, the AI-powered golf swing analysis tool that's changing how golfers train using just an iPhone. We cover motion capture without markers, 120fps swing analysis, real-time voice feedback, face-on vs down-the-line data, shaft lean measurement, and the future of AI golf instruction.This is real golf swing data powered by custom-built AI models trained specifically for golf movement. We discuss how the Swing Coach app analyzes 120 frames per second, how it adapts to body type and limb length, and why most Android phones can't currently support the processing power required for this level of real-time golf swing feedback.If you care about:- Golf swing analysis- AI in sports training- Shaft lean & shallowing the club- Face-on vs down-the-line swing mechanics- Optimizing your golf practice sessionsWe also talk about:- Why great players move similarly- The “good player funnel”- Custom model swings coming soon- AI coaching trained on real instruction- Second-screen features for coaches- The Android hardware challenge- What's next for Swing Coach in 2026! This might be the most important conversation we've had about the future of golf instruction.
Mike Malaska is one of the great golf instructors of his era. The 2011 PGA of America National Teacher of the Year, and a Golf Digest Magazine "Legend of Instruction," Malaska is sought out by golfers of all skill levels and abilities for his insight, experience and athletic approach to golf teaching and coaching. He joins #OntheMark to talk about his approach to instruction, and elaborate on various concepts that will help you to develop your golf-swing for the better. Topics covered include: Exaggerations to Fix Swings Why Stability beats Timing Proper Hip and Shoulder Rotation The real origin of Swing Speed Grip and Clubface Relationships Face Control and its Importance, and One Move Guaranteed to fix a Golf-Swing. Mike also talked about Impact Skills, Playing from Instinct, Freeing up the Swing to Free up and Mind, and he illustrates ball-striking concepts from legends like Jack Nicklaus. Download and share this podcast and/or watch it on YouTube, by searching for and subscribing to Mark Immelman on YouTube.
Erik Barzeski, Director of Instruction at Golf Evolution, is the father of a golf pro and an author, but also has the perspective of someone who works with juniors. The ability to switch between wearing those different hats has given him some invaluable insight on how to manage golfers at different abilities and interest levels. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Most golfers think they're practicing correctly.They're not.In this episode of the Athletic Motion Golf Podcast, Mike Granato & Shaun Webb chat with Erik Barzeski to break down the 4 types of golfers we see in lessons — and why only one type actually improves long-term. If you've ever wondered how to practice golf properly, why your swing changes don't stick, or why you're not getting better despite putting in the reps… this is for you.We dive deep into:- How to practice golf the right way- Why band-aid swing fixes don't last- The difference between block practice and variable practice- Why launch monitors can make you worse- How tour players actually practice- Why feedback (video, 3D, cameras) is everything- Foam balls and slow swings for real changeThe biggest mistakes golfers make when trying to improveIf you're not practicing with feedback… you're just exercising.This episode will completely change how you approach golf improvement.Whether you're a competitive player, weekend golfer, or instructor — understanding these four types of golfers could be the difference between staying stuck and finally breaking through.Comment below: Which type are you right now?
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Dr. Carly Hunt is a Sport and Counseling Psychologist, Scientist and Educator and Author who counsels athletes, adolescents and adults on improving performance, well-being and health. Carly is a former NCAA Division I golfer (Georgetown University & University of Maryland) and a certified yoga instructor and she joins #OntheMark to help you reach your full potential in golf and in life. Dr. Hunt shares 5 Mental Training Strategies to Improve your performance: The 3 C's to Manage Negative Thoughts S.T.O.P for Mindfulness Positive Emotion and Fun Living your Values, and Imagery and Visualization She also illustrates how pain is BioPsychoSocial and how you can beat it with the same 5 Mental Training Strategies. Watch this podcast on YouTube - search and subscribe to Mark Immelman.
Director of Content at Fried Egg Golf, Kevin Van Valkenburg joins Sam Weinman to discuss his youngest daughter's affinity for and success in golf. Like Sam, KVV has had to find a way to foster his kid's growth past the point of his own skill level on the golf course, which has taught important lessons to both father and daughter. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
There are a seemingly infinite number of training aids out there. Where do you start? What training aid helps with which issues? LKD breaks down some of his favorites, how they work and who they're for in Episode 2 of the miniseries 'Training aids I like.' Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Welcome to a bonus episode of The ModGolf Podcast, live from the floor of the 2026 PGA Show in Orlando! Host Colin Weston continues his "short and sharp" interviews, heading back to the Inventors Spotlight to find the most intriguing and impactful new startups in the game. This 10-minute power session features two very different but equally innovative companies. First, we explore a groundbreaking safety solution designed to address the rising threat of heat-related illnesses on the course. Then, we shift gears to discover a fun, new way to gamify at-home practice and bring the entertainment of the range to your own backyard. From life-saving technology to interactive gaming, discover how these entrepreneurs are shaping the future of the golf experience. Featured Innovators Conor Martins - Founder & CEO, Rapid Risk Reduction (R3) and HEATbox Gavin Cayenne - VP of Sales, Rapid Risk Reduction (R3) and HEATbox Brad Thompson - Founder & Creator, Black Hole Golf Key takeaways that you will discover: Golf Courses Need a Heat-Stroke Protocol, Not Just an AED. The team at Rapid Risk Reduction highlights a critical gap in course safety. Just as AEDs are standard for cardiac events, courses need accessible, idiot-proof tools for heat-related emergencies. The HEATbox's built-in video instruction ensures anyone, regardless of training, can step in and help during the critical minutes before medical help arrives. Practice Doesn't Have to Feel Like Practice. Brad from Black Hole Golf is tapping into the power of gamification to change golfer behavior. By combining physical, interactive targets with a digital app for scoring and leaderboards, he's created a product that makes skill-building fun, social, and accessible anywhere. It's a solution that solves the problem of mundane practice by turning the backyard into an entertainment venue. Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Del, Chris and Matt on The ModGolf YouTube channel live from The 2026 PGA Show. Click on this link or the image below as we extend our podcast conversation with key takeaways and lessons learned. What You'll Discover in This Episode Chapter 1: [0:00] Welcome Back to ModGolf LIVE! Colin sets the scene from the PGA Show floor, introducing his mission to highlight early-stage growth companies from the Inventors Showcase. Chapter 2: [1:15] Introducing Rapid Risk Reduction & The HEATbox Conor Martins shares the origin story of his company, which started with an opioid reversal tool that saved over 500 lives, and explains why they pivoted to address the growing problem of heat strokes in golf. Chapter 3: [3:00] HEATbox Demo: The AED for Heat Strokes Gavin Cayenne, a former PGA professional, provides a hands-on demo of the HEATbox. He walks us through its three key components: the heat stress kit, the hydration pack, and the revolutionary video technology that guides any bystander through an emergency with bilingual instructions. Chapter 4: [6:00] Instilling Confidence in a Crisis The team discusses the importance of "bystander response" and how the HEATbox's video guidance gives users the confidence to act immediately, potentially saving lives on remote parts of the course where EMS is 15-20 minutes away. Chapter 5: [7:45] Black Hole Golf: Marrying Tradition with Entertainment Colin meets Brad Thompson, drawn in by the intriguing name "Black Hole Golf." Brad explains his mission to create a gamified practice experience for any open space, blending the feel of traditional golf with the entertainment value of Topgolf. Chapter 6: [8:45] The Black Hole Golf Demo Brad showcases his interactive system, featuring light-up, sound-making target discs that work with real golf balls from 10 to 200+ yards. He explains how the companion app tracks points, creates leaderboards, and allows you to challenge friends, making practice feel like a game, especially at night. Chapter 7: [9:45] Where to Find Them & The Journey Ahead Brad announces the beta launch for Black Hole Golf and invites listeners to sign up. Conor and Gavin provide their contact information and a special show deal for the HEATbox. Resources & Links Learn more about HEATbox & Rapid Risk Reduction (R3): Website: www.rthree.io Social Media: @RapidRiskReduction PGA Show Special: Get two free HEATboxes with the purchase of 15. Join the Black Hole Golf Beta: Website (for Beta sign-up): www.blackholegolf.com/PGA Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear! As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I've been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building. I'm excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests. I'm offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf. Click to join >> https://patreon.com/Modgolf I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin
Are men and women golf swings actually different? Or is there really just one fundamental golf swing?In this episode of the Athletic Motion Golf Podcast, Mike Granato and Shaun Webb sit down with instructor Nathalie Sheehan to discuss the real differences between male and female golfers, common swing tendencies, and how instructors should approach coaching each.While the fundamentals of the golf swing remain the same, Nathalie explains there are often physical tendencies and skill development differences that show up between male and female players.Some of the key topics covered include:• Why many female golfers struggle with grip strength early on • Common swing tendencies instructors see in men vs women • Why female golfers often over-rotate the backswing • The role of strength, flexibility, and posture in the golf swing • Why creativity in practice can improve scoring • How coaching juniors differs from coaching adult golfers • Mental game differences between male and female playersNathalie also shares her journey from competitive junior golf to becoming one of the top instructors in the game, working with players at Pelican Golf Club in Florida and appearing regularly on the Golf Channel.If you've ever wondered:Should women swing differently than men?Do female golfers need different instruction?Are there mechanical differences between male and female golf swings?This conversation breaks down the science, coaching insights, and real-world experience behind those questions.
In this episode, Jon and Adam explore where golf technology is heading after some eye-opening demos at the PGA Show, including AI-powered swing analysis and voice-interactive simulator coaching. They wrestle with the big question: will these tools actually make golfers better, or are we overestimating what AI can realistically diagnose and communicate? The conversation then shifts into a practical experiment using AI to simulate optimal target strategy, revealing just how many strokes golfers can save by aiming smarter. A wide-ranging discussion on tech, decision-making, and the limits (and promise) of data in improving your game. Thank you to our show sponsors, The Indoor Golf Shop and Ethos As we enter the winter season, many golfers will be looking to upgrade their indoor practice. I've been trusting The Indoor Golf Shop for years and recommending them to anyone who wants to improve their home setup. They offer all the top launch monitor brands, including SkyTrak, Uneekor, and Foresight, and regularly run sales. They also have everything you need for your indoor practice - hitting mats, golf nets, impact screens, and custom enclosures. If you're looking for a custom residential build to have the simulator of your dreams, their team can make that happen. They built mine! And their designers can also handle any kind of commercial facility where you're building from scratch or want to make an upgrade. To learn more, check out https://shopindoorgolf.com/ Ethos is an online platform that makes getting life insurance fast and easy There is no complicated process and it's 100% online No medical exam required. You just answer a few health questions Get a quote in as little as 10 minutes You can get same-day coverage without ever leaving your house Get your free quote today at https://www.ethos.com/sweetspot Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sam Weinman's miniseries returns with PGA Professional Mike Thomas, father of two-time major champion Justin Thomas. Mike explains how he just wanted Justin to have a passion for something and was lucky enough that passion turned out to be golf. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Host: Colin Weston Guests: Del Ratcliffe (President, CourseRev.ai), Matt Wade (VP of Product, PITCHcrm), Chris Hill (CTO, CourseRev.ai) Duration: 28 Minutes In this episode of ModGolf LIVE, recorded on the show floor at the 2026 PGA Show in Orlando, host Colin Weston sits down with the leadership team behind CourseRev.ai and PITCHcrm. This isn't just a conversation about technology; it's a deep dive into the real-world challenges of getting a tradition-rich industry to adopt modern solutions. Colin is joined by Del Ratcliffe (President of CourseRev.ai & COO of Pinnacle Golf Properties), Matt Wade (VP of Product, PITCHcrm), and Chris Hill (CTO, CourseRev.ai). Together, they discuss the "secret sauce" of their tech stack - from an AI voice concierge that answers the phone to a CRM that automates marketing - and how they balance cutting-edge AI with the human touch required to train course operators. Del, bringing his 30+ years of course ownership experience, shares why he's the "main guinea pig" for the products, how they handle the complexity of different golf course business models, and why getting a course to use the tech is harder than selling it. The team also teases the future of dynamic pricing using unstructured data and explains why AI isn't about replacing staff, but about freeing them up to create better face-to-face experiences. Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Del, Chris and Matt on The ModGolf YouTube channel live from The 2026 PGA Show. Click on this link or the image below as we extend our podcast conversation with key takeaways and lessons learned. Key Topics & Discussion Points Live from the PGA Show: Colin introduces a "3x" interview with three guests representing two integrated companies. What is CourseRev AI? An AI-powered voice and chat concierge designed to handle tee time bookings, modifications, and general questions, taking the pressure off pro shop staff. The "Main Guinea Pig": How Del Ratcliffe's role as a multi-course operator (Pinnacle Golf Properties) allows the tech team to build solutions that solve real, painful problems. Introducing PITCHcrm: The "oldest product" in the family (since 2012) that automates email and SMS marketing based on customer reservation history, no-shows, and behavior. The Adoption Hurdle: Why selling the software is easy, but onboarding and training staff on how to use it is the real challenge in a non-early-adopter industry. Customization vs. Scaling: How the team handles the fact that no two golf courses are alike. Chris Hill explains how they now use natural language programming to quickly customize AI rules for specific course restrictions (e.g., "no seniors after 2 PM on Saturday"). Dynamic Pricing Deep Dive: The debate among owners about surge pricing, and how CourseRev.ai integrates instantly with tee sheets to reflect pricing changes. The Tease: Chris Hill hints at new dynamic pricing strategies that use unstructured data (like weather and demand factors) in ways humans never could. Serving Different Course Types: How the technology adapts to MCOs (Multi-Course Operators) with one clubhouse vs. multiple locations spread across states. The "Robocall" Fear: Addressing the misconception that AI phone answering is like the frustrating automated systems of 10 years ago. AI & Employment: The team confirms that AI isn't eliminating jobs; it's allowing staff to focus on high-value, face-to-face interactions in the pro shop. Measuring Success: Using AI to track KPIs, identify frequently asked questions, and help course operators improve their websites and customer service. Notable Quotes Del on the Industry: "We're still largely an industry of mom-and-pop operations out there. Change is not real easy for us to overcome, and it can be scary, too." Chris on Tech Debt: "With AI, we can actually implement that much easier rather than trying to build something really rigid and structured in code. We can just write that now in natural language." Matt on Staffing: "Everyone listening to this has probably been in a situation where you've been in the pro shop and the guy's on two phones. It's definitely not eliminating staff because then you can even get more face-to-face quality interactions." Colin on Entrepreneurship: "If you don't have challenges as a startup you need to challenge yourself more. Like me with snowboarding, if you're not falling down you're not going fast enough." Resources & Links Learn more about CourseRev.ai: https://www.courserev.ai Email CourseRev: hello@courserev.ai Learn more about PITCHcrm: https://www.pitchcrm.com Want to connect with Del? Check out his bio page to make that happen! >> https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/del-ratcliffe Timestamps [00:00] - Cold Open: Colin introduces the "3x" interview at the 2026 PGA Show [01:30] - Guest Introductions: Del Ratcliffe, Matt Wade, and Chris Hill [03:00] - What is CourseRev.ai? Solving the pro shop phone pressure with an AI concierge [04:45] - Del's Dual Role: The President of CourseRev.ai as the client (COO of Pinnacle Golf Properties) [07:15] - The Tech Stack Explained: How PITCHcrm integrates with CourseRev.ai for marketing automation [09:00] - The Education Gap: Why golf course owners are laggards in tech adoption and how to warm them up to AI [12:00] - Customer Success Story: *The journey from reluctance to evangelism *[15:30] - Balancing Customization & Scale: How the team handles the "mom-and-pop" nature of different courses using natural language AI [19:15] - The Human Element: Onboarding staff and using the "Notice Board" for real-time course conditions [21:45] - Dynamic Pricing: Agonizing over surge pricing and how AI uses unstructured data to predict demand [24:30] - One Size Doesn't Fit All: Differentiating tech needs for MCOs, daily fee, municipal, and private clubs [28:00] - Overcoming Misconceptions: Why this isn't the frustrating automated attendant of the past [30:00] - AI & Jobs: How automation creates more valuable face-to-face roles in the pro shop [31:15] - How to Connect: Finding CourseRev.ai and PITCHcrm online [32:00] - Wrap Up: Colin teases the "Innovators Spotlight" mini-segments coming up next Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear! As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I've been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building. I'm excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests. I'm offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf. Click to join >> https://patreon.com/Modgolf I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin
There are a seemingly infinite number of training aids out there. Where do you start? What training aid helps with which issues? LKD breaks down some of his favorites, how they work and who they're for in this new miniseries Training aids I like. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
If you're trying to increase driver distance, gain clubhead speed, or add serious carry to your drives, this episode of the Athletic Motion Golf Podcast with Mike Granato and Shaun Webb breaks down a real-world speed training transformation.In just four weeks, Athletic Motion Golf student Kyle increased his driver clubhead speed from 101 mph to 107 mph, producing 11 mph more ball speed and roughly 28 yards of additional carry distance. The best part? Every session was tracked and verified on a professional launch monitor (GC3 / Bushnell Launch Pro).Mike Granato and Shaun Webb walk through the exact speed training protocol, how many swings were required, how long each session took, and why hitting balls during speed training produced better results than traditional overspeed systems.Kyle explains how only two speed sessions per week (20–30 minutes each) completely changed his golf game — turning long iron approaches into wedges and making par 5s reachable.This episode covers:• The exact protocol used for speed training • How overspeed training actually works • Why hitting balls matters for speed development • How to track speed improvements correctly • What speed gains mean for scoring and approach shotsIf you're serious about hitting the driver farther and improving your golf performance, this podcast episode provides a real case study showing what happens when speed training is done correctly.
In Part 2 of Season 13, Episode 3, I have the privilege of spending more time with Martin Chuck, one of the very best instructors in our game. Martin shares incredible insight into what you should focus on if you only have time to work on one thing in your golf swing—and why clarity beats complexity every time. We also dive into whether we're reaching the point of data overload in today's game, especially with more and more technology and new data points becoming available. Martin weighs in on the role confidence plays in becoming a great ball-striker and offers a fantastic tip on how to warm up with purpose before a round. Instead of just beating balls on the range, he explains why you should practice the specific shots you know you'll face that day—so when it's time to hit them on the course, you already know you can pull them off. It's practical, thoughtful, and packed with lessons you can take straight from the range to the first tee. Thank you again for pressing play and being part of the journey.
Three-time PGA Tour winner and CBS broadcaster Johnson Wagner joins the pod to talk about how his parents shaped his golf experience as a junior player and how he's tried to nurture his son's game. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
It might be easier than you think to gain five, 10 or even 15 mph of ball speed. Cordie Walker, founder and chief curator of the Golf Science Lab joins LKD to discuss his biggest jumps in ball speed, how he made it happen and how a regular golfer can do it too. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Is the “shallow the club” trend ruining your swing? In this episode, Mike Granato & Shaun Webb from Athletic Motion Golf sit down with Wills Murray...AMG's newest certified instructor now coaching out of The Lab in Monterey, California. Wills dives into what he's seeing on the West Coast, and we break down the overcorrection epidemic that's sabotaging thousands of amateur golfers trying to “get more shallow.”From over-shallowing and clubface control to why your backswing is killing your rotation—this episode unpacks it all. We also dig into the Gears 3D motion capture system and how it's changing the game for understanding your swing mechanics. If you've ever dropped kicked a driver, sliced your irons, or tried to look like a PGA pro based on YouTube swings… this one's for you.
Ricky Kalmon is a growth mindset expert, motivational speaker and celebrity hypnotist. His programs are inspirational and offer compelling, applicable tools anyone can use in personal and professional development. Ricky is also an author and has penned a couple of books, including "Leverage Your Mindset for Golfers." He joins #OntheMark to introduce how he helps athletes, business-people and celebrities reinforce their thoughts and beliefs to enhance their results, and share some nuggets for the overall improvement of your golf game: How top performers mentally separate themselves from the pack Overcoming pressure How to focus over fear Making big ideas to life with a gritty attitude Changing the story in your head Dealing with discomfort for better growth, and Discipline over motivation. Learn to use you mind as a strength and not a necessary evil, download and listen to Ricky's entertaining and informative approach, or watch it on YouTube - search and subscribe to Mark Immelman.
What's it like raising a kid to play golf when you're a former top-10 player in the world, have won more than a dozen times professionally and played in seven Ryder Cups? Ian Poulter gives us a look into his world, and how he and his son Luke bond over golf. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
LKD and Sam Weinman preview the release of a new Golf IQ miniseries: How to be a better golf dad. Golf Digest talked with avid golfers, some of whom are professionals, to gain some insight on how they raised kids who have a good relationship with the game. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Hi folks… and welcome in to this edition of Next on the Tee—where golf legends live and your game gets better. I thank you so much for pressing play. This week, I'm excited to share four terrific guests who will give you plenty to think about—and plenty of great stories to smile about along the way. We kick things off with Mike Miller, Head Golf Professional at Big Canoe in Jasper, Georgia. Mike is also the newly elected Vice President of the PGA of Georgia—and the former Mayor of Flowery Branch, home of Atlanta Falcons training camp. Mike shares several practical tips you can work on right now, even if you're dealing with snow or freezing temps. He's an outstanding putter—having finished Top 10 twice at the Georgia Putting Championship—and he offers simple, effective putting advice, plus one tip that makes so much sense you'll wonder why we haven't all been doing it already. Mike also talks about the challenges of being a mayor in the social-media era and the incredible setup they have at Big Canoe. Following Mike, our Resident Director of Instruction Tom Patri joins me. TP is always on the cutting edge, and he's fully embraced AI in his instruction. His AI Assistant Pro—“Tommy Jr.”—helps students stay accountable with drills, video follow-ups, and lesson summaries. While I share some concerns about how AI could impact PGA and LPGA instructors, Tom explains how he's using it as a tool to enhance learning, not replace great teaching. Come back for Part 2 of the episode when we're joined by The Confidence Doctor himself, Dr. Bob Winters. Dr. Bob updates us on the continued success of his students and walks us through how to develop the right mindset, push through negativity, and keep getting to “yes” when doubts creep in. We wrap things up with our good friend Mark Calcavecchia. Calc shares his thoughts on the possibility of the PGA Tour reducing the number of tournaments beginning in 2027, tells a wonderful story about sitting with Jack Wulcotte while old McGregor persimmon woods were being made, explains why you won't catch him in an autonomous vehicle, and weighs in on Jack Nicklaus' famous belief that winning a major could be easier than winning a regular Tour event. It's a fun, insightful, and story-filled episode from start to finish. Thanks again for pressing play—and for being part of this week's show.
When top PGA Tour pros need to fix their swing, they call Scott Hamilton. In this exclusive episode of the Athletic Motion Golf Podcast, Mike Granato and Shaun Webb sit down with one of the most respected coaches on tour — Scott Hamilton — to uncover what really separates the best in the world from everyone else.From tour-level ball striking and the myths average golfers still believe, to how Scott simplifies complex swing changes, this episode is a goldmine of insight from someone who coaches the game at the highest level.What you'll learn:The common traits shared by elite playersWhy so many amateurs chase the wrong thingsThe tour-pro mindset during a swing rebuildThe most misunderstood mechanics in the modern golf swingWhat you should stop doing today if you want better resultsWhether you're a scratch golfer or just want to stop fighting your swing, Scott's perspective will give you clarity, confidence, and a roadmap to better golf.
Scott Cowx is a Canadian Golf Instructor and one of the brightest minds in golf. Vastly researched and experienced, he teaches Golf Pro's, Amateurs and Teachers alike. His insights and knowledge of golf-swing technique is second to none and he joins #OntheMark to help you to a more thorough understanding on what it takes to make a consistent, reliable swing. In his deep dive into various elements of the swing he elaborates on four things he sees all great ball-strikers do: Dynamic Balance The Transition of the Club from Waist-high to Waist-High (P3-P5) Joint Ranges of Motion and Smoothness of movement, and The Golf-club's Center of Mass Location throughout the Swing. In his swing technique exposé, Scott explains a number of concepts such as The "4 Laws of Clubhead Speed," the "Theory of Repeatable Error," Golf-swing Changes and Building Sensitivity, Linear and Angular Forces in the Swing, and Physical Training, Yoga, and Pilates for Better Performances. Scott also illustrates how players like Ernie Els, Rory McIlroy, Bryson DeChambeau, Jamie Sadlowski and Greg Norman applied for 4 elements he described in their golf-swings. This podcast is also available on YouTube. Search and Subscribe to Mark Immelman to watch the discussion between Scott and Mark.
Bryson DeChambeau, Jack Nicklaus, Nick Faldo and many other strong players off the tee hover the club before they begin their takeaway, but the reasons why range from "relieving tension" to "creating tension." If that sounds confusing, that's because it is! LKD breaks it all down on this week's episode of Golf IQ. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
(00:01) Golf Instruction and Filtering Information This chapter features a discussion on the overwhelming amount of information available online, particularly in the realm of golf. I, John Ashton, am joined by Jeff Smith, a top 100 golf teacher, as we explore the challenges faced by golfers in navigating the plethora of advice and tips available. We emphasize the importance of filtering this information effectively, suggesting that if advice doesn't consider fundamental aspects like grip, stance, or posture, it might not be useful. We also highlight the need for personalized guidance rather than one-size-fits-all solutions, cautioning against following advice that doesn't align with your unique setup and swing mechanics. (12:16) Customizing Golf Grips for Success This chapter explores the simplicity and effectiveness of customizing a golf grip based on an individual's natural arm hang. By instructing players to let their arms hang naturally and marking where their knuckles align on an imaginary club, I demonstrate how to establish a grip that feels comfortable and intuitive. The method is straightforward: aligning the mark with the top of the shaft, positioning the thumb correctly, and ensuring the club face remains square during the swing. This personalized approach allows golfers to find their unique grip without overcomplicating the process, leading to more accurate shots and faster improvement. The chapter emphasizes the importance of letting the body's natural mechanics guide the grip to enhance performance and enjoyment of the game. (18:51) Simplifying Golf Swing Mechanics This chapter explores the simplicity and natural feel of hitting a golf ball effectively. We discuss how many recreational golfers tend to overcomplicate their swing, making the process seem more difficult than it needs to be. By emphasizing the importance of a natural arm hang and grip, we reveal that the key to a successful swing is minimizing manipulation. This realization often surprises golfers, as they find that an uncomplicated approach leads to straighter and higher shots with greater ease. The conversation highlights the mental shift needed to achieve this, noting how overthinking can disrupt a golfer's natural ability. We also humorously acknowledge how golfers, despite being generally intelligent, can forget basic principles when they step onto the course. The goal is to help golfers understand that achieving a smooth, fluid swing is about maintaining simplicity and letting the body work naturally. (23:16) Grip Variation in Golf Swing This chapter tackles the complexities of golf grip techniques and emphasizes the importance of finding a grip that works for each individual golfer rather than following a one-size-fits-all approach. We discuss the misconception that all professional golfers use the same grip, sharing insights from a study of 25 pros, which revealed significant variations in their grip styles. The conversation underscores that a grip suitable for one pro might not work for another due to differences in their physical attributes and swing objectives. We also highlight the risks of relying too heavily on generalized advice from books or online sources without considering personal suitability. Through a recent golf school experience, I stress the importance of understanding one's unique swing mechanics and maintaining focus on consistent practices that yield positive results, rather than constantly seeking new information. The goal is to encourage golfers to recognize what works for them and caution against the confusion that can arise from information overload. (34:33) Optimizing Stance and Balance for Speed This chapter focuses on the often overlooked fundamentals of improving a golf swing, emphasizing balance and setup over the swing mechanics themselves. We explore how starting positions, stance width, and foot flare can significantly enhance a golfer's ability to swing faster and maintain balance. By allowing golfers to find their personal "red line" or speed limit through experimentation, they can unleash their full potential without sacrificing stability. The conversation also draws parallels to baseball pitching, highlighting the importance of proper foot placement and pressure for generating power. Ultimately, we underscore that mastering these basics can make the game simpler and improve scoring, especially when dealing with uneven lies on the golf course. (42:28) Mastering Timing and Performance in Golf This chapter focuses on the importance of timing and confidence in golf, especially when making contact with the ball. We explore how nerves can lead to poor contact and how missed opportunities to communicate or act can affect performance. I share a story about a nervous new golfer who missed a swing, and demonstrate how to maintain composure and "sell" a miss as a practice swing. By keeping a calm demeanor and not letting mistakes affect you, you can regain your confidence and improve your game. The key takeaway is learning how to control your reaction and approach, ensuring better results in future golf outings. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
This might be the most misunderstood concept in the golf swing… and it's costing golfers more than they realize.In this episode of the Athletic Motion Golf Podcast, Mike Granato and Shaun Webb break down one of the most commonly botched elements in the modern golf swing: shaft lean at impact.Golfers everywhere are obsessed with achieving that “tour-level look” — hands forward, clubface compressing the ball — but most are chasing a pose, not a position rooted in proper movement and mechanics. And the results? Inconsistent ball striking, weak compression, and frustration on the course.Mike and Shaun dive into:Why holding lag is ruining your swingThe truth about wrist angles and body positioningHow “posing impact” is hurting your real performanceWhy even elite players misunderstand what shaft lean actually isThe role of swing sequence and movement patterns in achieving natural compressionThis episode is for every player who's chased compression, tried to "hold the angle," or been told their hands need to be way forward at impact.
Jason Barrera is known as the "Calm Voice in Golf." A golfer on a journey of his own, he has taken to counseling, mentoring and teaching aspirant golfers (of all skill levels) the virtues and advantages of a sound and productive mental game. Known on social media as "MentalCaddy" Jason joins OntheMark to share his journey in golf, and teach you a few key mental skills that are guaranteed to advance your play and performance. Among various mental game topics he delves into: Thoughts driving Behavior and Thoughts becoming Feelings Emotional Neutrality Protecting your Energy Skills to Manage Poor Performance Killer Instinct Training Worry vs Care, and Learning how to Detach yourself from Results. As Jason "caddys" for you, he equips you with insights and his calm demeanor to handle any and every mental challenge golf will throw at you. And he teaches you the Samurai skill of "expecting nothing and preparing for everything." This podcast is also available as a vodcast on YouTube. Search and subscribe to Mark Immelman.
Nick Chertock joins LKD to break down some common issues golfers face when they're close to hitting a milestone but can't quite breakthrough. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Matt Wallace rejoins LKD to dive into what we, as amateurs, should try to copy from professionals. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
What if everything you thought about early extension was wrong?In this episode of the Athletic Motion Golf podcast, Mike Granato and Shaun Webb dive deep into one of the most misunderstood and misdiagnosed swing faults in golf: early extension.Most golfers (and sadly, a lot of coaches too) are watching the wrong hip, misreading camera angles, and making massive swing changes to fix a problem they don't fully understand. The result? Wrecked pivots, locked hips, and stalled progress.This is the real truth about early extension — and how it's often a symptom, not the root cause.Inside, we'll unpack:The #1 camera mistake that leads to misdiagnosisWhy your lead knee and hip rotation matter more than trail side movementHow most swing aids and drills make the problem worseWhat you should actually focus on to fix your swingWhy locking your pelvis down is destroying your power and consistency
LKD returns from paternity leave to resume hosting duty with an interview with PGA Tour pro Matt Wallace, who provides a different perspective on how to think about your golf swing. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Are you struggling with early extension, poor pelvic control, or losing depth in your backswing? You're not alone — and today, we're breaking it all down.In this episode of the Athletic Motion Golf podcast, Mike Granato and Shaun Webb sit down with golf coach and biomechanics expert Erik Barzeski to uncover the most common swing faults they see in golfers of all levels — and more importantly, how to fix them.From pelvis thrust and hip overturn to trail knee extension and loss of depth, Erik brings years of data-backed coaching experience using tools like Gears and force plates to help golfers identify what's really going wrong in their swing.Topics include:Why most amateur golfers misuse their pelvis during the backswingThe real reason your trail knee is causing early extensionHow to control hip rotation for a more athletic swingCreating better pivot and arm structure to stop losing depthThe truth about sway, pressure shifts, and shoulder tilt mechanicsWhether you're a competitive player or a weekend warrior, this episode is packed with real-world fixes that will make your swing more athletic, more consistent, and more powerful.
Brendan Flynn is the founder of “The Putting Institute” and a PGA TOUR and LPGA Putting Specialist and Coach. The Putting Institute has the largest stable of elite competitors in the USA and Brendan joins #OntheMark to share some putting tips and nuggets to help you become a better putter. Brendan shares, and elaborate on the following 6 Aspects to Better Putting: Navigating misinformation and finding the "real” truth Ceasing the disrespect for putting and putting practice Why every golf instructor cannot teach advanced putting How proper methods unlock an entirely new dimension of success Checkpoints for consistency Building and galvanizing putting skills, and The art and mastery of putting. As he takes you on an informational odyssey to better putting Brendan addresses: (1) The Putting stance and Mirror Work, (2) Putting Fundamentals, (3) Body Stability, (4) Putter Styles for Certain Stroke Patterns, (5) Green-reading, (6) Managing Expectations, and the (7) Emotions of Putting. This podcast is also available as a vodcast where you can watch Brendan demonstrate certain elements. Search and subscribe to Mark Immelman on YouTube to watch.
In this episode of the Athletic Motion Golf Podcast, Mike Granato and Shaun Webb break down the most common golf swing tips and rank them in the 2025 Golf Instruction Tier List — from Top Notch to Needs to Be BANNED.This is one of the most brutally honest and entertaining breakdowns of swing advice on the internet.We cover polarizing topics like:Is "Lag" really that important?Why "Swing Your Swing" is misused by amateur golfersThe Arm Swing Illusion every player needs to understandThe truth about "Release Patterns"Why “Feel Ain't Real” might be your worst mantra
Kevin Prentice is a former Professional Golfer, and Golf Instructor. His journey in golf is incredible and reads like a movie-script. From working in a Lumber Mill to playing in the US Open alongside Johnny Miller and Raymond Floyd two years later, Kevin's story is one of resilience, hard work, serendipitous meetings, and an open and curious mind. He joins #OntheMark to tell his story and share lessons he learned from legendary golf instructors like Henry Picard, Gardner Dickinson and Alex Morrison. Stay tuned for golf-swing insights and lessons on how Ben Hogan swung the golf-club. Insights include: A lesson from Tony Pena on Alignment and Swing Path A lesson from Jack Grout, Jack Nicklaus's teacher, on Footwork and a Steady Head Lessons from Henry Picard on - Shaft Lean, Hitting Irons Softly, Self-discovery and Asking Good Technique Questions, and Principle-based Teaching, and Golf Lessons from Gardner Dickinson and David Lee of Gravity Golf. Kevin's experience and anecdotes share age-old truths about game improvement, and his goal is to share his treasure trove of insights from some of the brightest minds in the game. He will regale you with stories laden with golf nuggets while dispelling some of the "internet golf instruction" from the “Golf Swing Charlatans” as he calls them. This podcast is also available as a vodcast on YouTube - search and subscribe to Mark Immelman.
Welcome to the Athletic Motion Golf Podcast with Mike Granato and Shaun Webb — and today, we're diving DEEP into the world of golf speed training with none other than Fast Eddie Fernandes, 3X World Long Drive Champion and creator of the revolutionary HIITS Golf driver system.In this power-packed episode, Eddie reveals why most speed training is DEAD WRONG — and how hitting actual golf balls with variable weighting (instead of just air) is the key to gaining real, sustainable clubhead speed without blowing out your joints.We break down the science of anticipatory contraction, why your body braces for impact when hitting a ball (but NOT when swinging at air), and how Eddie's training helped him hit 220+ ball speed at age 47 — dominating the long drive circuit.
Tom Patri is a respected PGA Professional and the Director of Player Development at Twin Eagles Club in Naples, FL. Tom is a Golf Digest and Golf Magazine Top 100 Teacher and is sought out by players of all skill levels for help with their games. The main reason being that he is a player's teacher, having played as a Tour Professional for a portion of his career. Tom brings his experience and insight to the #OntheMark podcast to help you sharpen up your understanding of what it takes to play your best golf when it matters most. Among various game improvement topics he elaborates on: Golf Swing Methods and what to look out for Picking “Your" Path to develop Consistent Shotmaking Footwork and Good Balance Unhurried yet Purpose-driven Pre-Shot Routines Keys for Center Strikes Understanding Swing Feels Playing Golf over Golf-Swing Trusting Technique Changes, and Understanding and Avoiding Situational Mistakes. This podcast will enlighten you and put you on a path to a more cerebral and correct approach to your game and your technique. As an alternative to this audio version, you can watch it on YouTube - search and subscribe to Mark Immelman.
In this engaging conversation, Cohen Trolio reflects on his journey through college golf, discussing the influence of his family, particularly his father, who is a renowned golf instructor. He shares insights into the dynamics of their relationship, the transition from LSU to Ole Miss, and the importance of maintaining a positive outlook despite challenges. Trolio emphasizes the value of amateur golf experiences and the role of teamwork and coaching in his development. As he prepares for a professional career, he expresses excitement and readiness for the next chapter in his golfing journey.Cohen Trolio - Ole Miss Men's GolfThe Back of the Range - All Access Subscribe to The Back of the Range Subscribe in Apple Podcasts and SPOTIFY!Also Subscribe in YouTube, Google Play , Overcast, Stitcher Follow on Social Media! Email us: ben@thebackoftherange.comWebsite: www.thebackoftherange.com Voice Work by Mitch Phillips