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Send us a textWelcome back, Texas football fans!Happy New Year! I hope everyone had a fantastic holiday season.When we wrapped up our last episode in 2024, I was headed straight to the state championships—12 games in 4 days! What an unforgettable week it was, and now 12 new champions have cemented their places in Texas high school football history!Now, we shift gears as we kick off the countdown to the 2025 season!This offseason, we'll bring you insider interviews with coaches, standout players, Texas high school football alumni, and much more. So, make sure to stick with us each week as we dive deep into everything TXHSFB!What better way to start this season than with a state championship coach? Joining us today is Jayton Jaybirds Head Coach Josh Stanaland, whose team set the tone for championship week by winning the 1A D2 State Championship, bringing a title back to Jayton for the first time in 39 years! We'll hear all about this special team and their historic journey.
Send us a textWelcome to the Texas HS Football Podcast, your go-to source for all the playoff action, hosted by Taylor Arenz. It's Week 5 of the playoffs—the semifinals—and we're down to the final four teams in each division, with two teams set to punch their tickets to AT&T Stadium!The 1A 6-man state championship teams are now confirmed! In 1A D2, it will be Jayton vs. Oakwood, and in 1A D1, Whiteface will face Gordon. Congratulations to these teams!The TAPPS State Championship was held last week. Congrats to the 11-man Division 2 winner, Fort Worth All Saints Episcopal, who defeated Houston Second Baptist 21-3 to claim their first-ever TAPPS state championship! Also, Argyle Liberty Christian triumphed over Dallas Parish Episcopal, ending the Panthers' five-time state championship win streak with a convincing 45-24 victory!Another impressive win this weekend was the Summer Creek Bulldogs' overwhelming defeat of their district rivals, the Kingwood Mustangs, by a score of 51-7. The Bulldogs aim to return to AT&T Stadium for a second consecutive year and are just a week away from achieving that goal! Taylor's first guest this week is Bulldogs safety Brandon “B” Jones. Last week's quarterfinal game saw Brandon break the national record for pick-sixes in a season, marking his seventh interception and tying the Texas record as well! Taylor and “B” discuss the record, his team, and his passion for the game! Next up is athlete Keilan Sweeny, a standout for the Randle Lions, who are headed to the semifinals. Keilan scored all three of their touchdowns in last week's game, including the overtime winner! He shares what it's like to make history for the Lions and the special bond this team has developed this season.Our final guest is North Shore cornerback Devin Sanchez. An Ohio State commit and one of the top-ranked players in Texas and the nation, Devin possesses incredible speed and has made opposing offenses think twice about throwing near him for years! He discusses his recruitment journey, his experiences at North Shore, and shares great advice for young athletes. You will truly enjoy this episode filled with passion, insight, and inspiration from these talented athletes!
Send us a textIn this episode of the Hodge Pack podcast, Hodge, Josh and Misti are back together after Thanksgiving with plenty to talk about. MLB is looking at brining in the Gold Batter rule, and Josh is in zero favor of it.In what was labeled the most exciting/ anticipated college football season ever, is trying to live up too it. Championship week is filled with games that that do not matter to the CFP, but a couple that do. Josh is not a Hoosier believer at all Misti is yelling from mountain tops that Alabama should not be in the playoff because of their horrible losses. Hodge is against Penn State staying in with a loss in the Big Ten championship.Jayton head football coach Josh Stanaland and QB/S Sean Stanaland join the show as they look ahead to their state semifinal playoff game. Big Country Blitz's Cody Coil is our guest picker. Support the show
On this episode of the Spoon Mob Podcast, Ray chats with wine director Jayton Paul of Published On Main in Vancouver, British Columbia. For more on sommelier Jayton Paul, visit spoonmob.com/jaytonpaul and follow him on Instagram @jaytonjames + @published.on.main. Visit publishedonmain.com for menu details, reservations, and event information. For all things Spoon Mob, visit spoonmob.com and make sure to follow us on Instagram (@spoonmob), Twitter (@spoonmob1), Facebook (@spoonmob1) + TikTok (@spoonmob). Audio editing by @TrackEditPrint. Intro music by @kabbalisticvillage.
Join us as we discuss living with intention, gratitude, allowing novelty, pro-metabolic nutrition basics, sleep, and living in ways we will be proud to look back on. Jayton shares about his own journey learning to appreciate the inherent goodness in life, working with his internal voice, & honoring his core principles of health. He candidly shares how he follows his "vision" and "why" while emphasizing the real reason why we are here: to help one another. Jayton is an average guy who has spent the past 6 years casually studying the art of metabolic health and bioenergetics in his free time and as part of his various jobs. Outside of his scientific studies, he enjoys philosophy and psychology. His physical hobbies include Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, hiking, snow sports, water sports, and weightlifting. He currently is the president of the nonprofit UMZU Cares Foundation and works as the Director of Community at UMZU. Jayton's Info:Director Of Community for UMZUPresident of the UMZU Cares Foundationinstagram - @researchcowboyFacebook - Jayton Millerumzucares.orgumzu.comConnect with Theresa:EFT Tapping app & membership: www.tappingwitht.comInstagram: @livingrootswellnessBlog: www.livingrootswellness.comcontact Theresa: theresa@livingrootswellness.com
Pastors Robert Baltodano and Dr. Jay Falzarano Question Timestamps: Jose, NY (2:41) - What did Jesus say to the two other people on the cross with him? Was the whole Earth covered in water during the days of Noah? Paulette, AL (7:04) - Can you explain Romans 8:28? Christianson, GA (11:34) - What does Mark 3:27 mean? Jared, GA (15:02) - Who will live in the new Jerusalem? Ellen, NM (19:11) - Is there something in the Bible that promises 70 years? Where does the phrase “God will not give you more than you can handle” come from? Jayton, TX (25:25) - When we die now, do we go immediately to the kingdom of heaven, or are we in a peaceful dormant state waiting for the resurrection day? How do I answer people that say the Bible has been changed over time? Roland, NY (36:22) - What is the scripture, that Jesus died? Theresa, MS (38:00) - Is medicine witchcraft? Tim, NJ (40:45) - Why do so many ministers preach against the prosperity gospel? Tyrone, NY (47:18) - Is it scriptural to pray for authority over Satan? Mike, TN (52:34) - What does the Bible say about suicide? What happens to a person's soul after they commit suicide? Questions? 888-712-7434 Questions@bbtlive.org
In this episode Jayton & Tyler talk to registered dietitian and UMZU's head of product development Sloan Osborn. Jayton, Tyler & Sloan go into Sloan's experiencing working as an RD in and out of hospitals and his biggest takeaways. Sloan also goes into what he's learned since entering the supplement industry and gives his recommendations for what to look when buying a supplement.
Volume 6. Over seven weeks, Sammy (substandardsammy2) and Nat (thoughtful_fetishist) will be discussing the Dating and Kink experiences of their featured guests. This week's featured guests are Jayton @jayton2323, Brodie @brodie7571, and Andy @chainsawsatdawn.
Audrey De La Zerda and Jayton De La Zerda of Leander graduated from Texas A&M University in College Station during the university's May 2022 commencement. Audrey earned her Master of Science in instructional design, and Jayton earned his Bachelor of Science in agricultural communications and journalism. While at Texas A&M, Audrey created educational content covering women's roles in food, agriculture, and livestock. Jayton worked with BUILD, a nonprofit that converts 40-foot shipping containers into Texas Aggie Medical Clinics. Audrey and Jayton are the children of Michael and Sandra De La Zerda of Leander and grandchildren of Jimmy De La Zerda...Article Link
Michael and Sandra De La Zerda, son and daughter-in-law of Jimmy De La Zerda and Luz Ramirez of Poth, Texas, are excited to announce the engagement of their son, Jayton Michael De La Zerda to Lindsay Marie Stapleton, daughter of Jim and Michelle Stapleton of Plano. Jayton and Lindsay met at St. Mary's Catholic Church in College Station in 2020. The happy couple officially started dating in July 2020 and have been together ever since. Jayton graduated from Texas A&M University in 2022, earning a Bachelor of Science in agricultural communications and journalism. Lindsay will graduate from Texas A&M University...Article Link
In this episode of The Thermo Diet Podcast, Jayton Miller and Tyler Woodward talk about how to navigate through different phases of your life to stay on track when it comes to your health journey. Learn what tactics Jayton uses to stay on track as he has gone through different phases of his life, how to think about change, and more... Instagram: - @UMZU Health @researchcowboy @tylerwoodward_fit
Napoleon Bonaparte wasn't that short, he was actually 5'6" which was average at the time. I am also 5'6". This has nothing, yet everything to do with this episode. Jordan checks up on his tallest friend Jayton. New episodes every Saturday. Links below. Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/qK59jACE5M Business/guest inquiries: lamjordan779@gmail.com Timestamps: (0:00) - Intro (3:31) - Universal, life hacks (7:55) - Working out, Busch Gardens (25:40) - Cryptocurrency, life gives you lemons (48:50) - Therapy and learning from mistakes Follow on social media: Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/banana8ro/ TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@banana8ro YouTube - youtube.com/channel/UCQjJ6rzWbNhWbGTnnxsTB-w Intro music: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0qt5lpQLL87Tp8z48XuRKQ
Napoleon Bonaparte wasn't that short, he was actually 5'6" which was average at the time. I am also 5'6". This has nothing, yet everything to do with this episode. Jordan checks up on his tallest friend Jayton. New episodes every Saturday. Links below. Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/qK59jACE5M Business/guest inquiries: lamjordan779@gmail.com Timestamps: (0:00) - Intro (3:31) - Universal, life hacks (7:55) - Working out, Busch Gardens (25:40) - Cryptocurrency, life gives you lemons (48:50) - Therapy and learning from mistakes Follow on social media: Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/banana8ro/ TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@banana8ro YouTube - youtube.com/channel/UCQjJ6rzWbNhWbGTnnxsTB-w Intro music: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0qt5lpQLL87Tp8z48XuRKQ
If you don't already, follow Jayden Miller @theresearchcowboy - I love his handle so much! But Jayden is such a wealth of knowledge. He's only 23 years old but has his own health story involving hypothyroidism and low testosterone, which he's managed and overcome with a pro-metabolic approach.Through his own journey, Jayden came across Ray Peat's work, and the rest is history! In this episode, we chat about:➡️Jayden's background ➡️What is serotonin➡️Why it's not the “happy hormone”➡️The role serotonin plays in energy production and metabolism➡️How serotonin impacts other hormones➡️How your gut affects serotonin levels➡️What processes help regulate serotonin➡️Signs of high serotonin➡️The role serotonin plays in depression➡️How antidepressants work➡️What is more beneficial for depression➡️Things you can do to improve your gut health➡️Foods to consume for better gut health➡️What to do for bad endotoxin issuesLINKSFollow Kitty on Instagram
Jayton and Quinten walk you through the day 1 draft picks, biggest winner and losers, beat picks, worst picks, and most surprising moments. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/shaving-points-pod/message
Bio:Jayton Harps is the President & Chair of the NSBE Professionals - San Diego Chapter. In his role, he oversees activities related to providing services, programs, mentorship, funding, and goals for the Professionals Chapter. Jayton helps establish multiple workshops, sessions, and specialized-knowledge topic discussions for hundreds of engineers in the San Diego community and beyond.Jayton has over 10 years of experience in leadership, management, personal and professional development. Jayton also led a monthly networking event called First Tuesdays, which brought 50+ entrepreneurs, business owners, investors, professionals, and more to share knowledge and venture opportunities. During the day, he geeks out as a Software Integration Engineer II for Northrop Grumman Corporation by performing multiple tasks such as requirement analysis, unit testing, integration and development for the Aeronautics and Space Systems. At night, Jayton is also the CEO of Zero To Necessary, a company that delivers STEM education through DIY home robotic kits to youth in underserved communities. He's mentored, empowered, and inspired 60+ students to build and program their first robot.Jayton's undergrad journey was filled with activities as he was involved with organizations on and off campus at San Diego State University (SDSU). He was Treasurer for the Afrikan Student Union, Secretary for the Beta Gamma Nu Fraternity, and finally President for the National Society of Black Engineers (NSBE). He continued his involvement with NSBE as a professional and held roles such as a STEM GALA coordinator, Communications, Programs director, and Chairmen.Jayton holds a Bachelor's degree in Computer Science at SDSU and a Masters of Science in Management Information Systems from National University and a Masters of Science in Entrepreneurship and Innovation from the University of Southern California.Instrumental to the San Diego Black community, Jayton continues to provide resources, tools, and career opportunities to like-minded individualsConnect with Jayton Harps! Website: www.zerotonecessary.comEmail: ceo@zerotonecessary.comTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/jharps007Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jayton.harpsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jharps07/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jayton-harps-274b9513/ Booklist:How to Stop Hurting The People Who Love You - https://www.amazon.com/Choices-Program-Stop-Hurting-People/dp/0692722327/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1JC656TJWBIMR&keywords=how+to+stop+hurting+the+people+who+love+you&qid=1642837699&sprefix=how+to+stop+hurting+the+people+who+love+you%2Caps%2C120&sr=8-1 7 Habits of Highly Effective Peoplehttps://www.amazon.com/Habits-Highly-Effective-People-Powerful/dp/1982137274/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1UZFMR1FKMFDW&keywords=7+habits+of+highly+effective+people&qid=1642837744&sprefix=7+hab%2Caps%2C129&sr=8-3 5 Love Languageshttps://www.amazon.com/Five-Love-Languages-Secret-Lasts/dp/B079B7PJMV/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3IO8MNI1DHW65&keywords=5+love+languages+by+gary+chapman&qid=1642837783&sprefix=5+love+languages%2Caps%2C148&sr=8-2 No B.S. Time Management for Entrepreneurs: The Ultimate No-Holds-Barred Kick-Butt Take-No-Prisoners Guide to Time Productivity and Sanityhttps://www.amazon.com/B-S-Time-Management-Entrepreneurs-Take-No-Prisoners/dp/B0812BNW7G/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1QGK9U1K4F0SG&keywords=no+bs+time+management+for+entrepreneurs&qid=1642837814&s=audible&sprefix=no+bs%2Caudible%2C122&sr=1-1
In this episode, we explore Celton and Jayton's SEED Project regarding the traditional methods of boat construction and the modern methods through which they have updated the historic craft.
Jayton Miller reversed his hypothyroidism not by eating lots of vegetables, going keto, or cutting sugar... he did it by doing the opposite. Host of The Thermo Diet podcast, Jayton shares practical and simple tips to increase your energy levels, lose weight in a healthy way, and improve your emotional and mental resilience. He shares his thoughts on how to lower homocysteine levels, why to limit tryptophan intake, why he consumes salt tablets, benadryl, and why eating more fructose than starch is better for diabetics. Jayton's podcast: https://thermodiet.com/blogs/podcasts?page=1 Jayton's instagram: https://www.instagram.com/researchcowboy/?hl=en Toxinless website: https://www.toxinless.com Sleep Cycle app: https://www.sleepcycle.com My website: www.matt-blackburn.com Order Mitolife products: www.mitolife.co Music by George Henner https://georgehenner.bandcamp.com
In this episode of The Thermo Diet Podcast, Jayton Miller sits down and talks about his current Thermo strategies to eliminate stress and inflammation while maximizing his results from working out at home and training in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. He goes over supplementation, sleep, nutrition, and extra tips and tricks o help you recover like Wolverine. Check it out and let us know what you think! Instagram: - @_christopherwalker @researchcowboy
In this episode of The Thermo Diet Podcast, Jayton Miller sits down with Theresa Piela and Meg Langston, two women who are very knowledgeable in the realm of metabolic health, and talks about kitchen hacks. They talk about everything from their favorite tools, snack, supplements, etc.. Check it out and let us know what you think! Instagram: - Chris - @_christopherwalker Jayton - @researchcowboy Meg's Instagram - @meg_langston Theresa's Instagram - @livingrootswellness
In this episode of The Thermo diet Podcast Jayton Miller sits down with functional nutrition therapy practitioner and fellow metabolic theory lover Travis Harris. They talk about the individualization of eating and listening to your body, the rate of living theory vs the bioenergetic theory, and the first thousand days of life and proper child nutrition among other things. Check it out and let us know what you think! Instagram @researchcowboy @travisharrisfntp Travis's website - https://www.travisharrisnutritionaltherapy.com https://umzu.com/ Full Transcript: Jayton Miller: Welcome back to the Thermo Diet Podcast. I'm your host, Jayton Miller. And today I have on the podcast, functional nutritional therapy practitioner, Travis Harris. So Travis, I found originally on Instagram and he has a great Instagram page. He has a really cool website. He does one-on-one coaching. So if you're interested, make sure to give him a look. In this episode, we talk about the individualization of eating and listening to your body, the rate of living theory versus the bio-energetic theory of health. We talk a little bit about the first thousand days of life and proper child nutrition. And then towards the end of it, we also talk a little bit about psychology and some different strategies that are out there in terms of helping you align your psychological health with your physical health. So I look forward to you listening to this episode and let's dive into it. How's it going today, guys. Today, I'm here with Travis Harris. How you doing today, Travis? Travis Harris: I'm doing well. How are you doing Jayton? Jayton Miller: I'm doing very well. So for the listeners out there who might not know who you are, do you mind giving them a background? Travis Harris: Yeah, so I guess my official working title is functional nutritional therapy practitioner. I got certified through the Nutritional Therapy Association and went a little my own direction through the discovering the work of Ray Peat and bioenergetics. And I work with clients one-on-one and we work on restoring flow of energy through the body, and that looks different for everyone. Jayton Miller: Awesome. How long have you been doing that? Travis Harris: I've been working one-on-one with clients for about a year now. Jayton Miller: Sweet. And you said that you'd been in the realm of bioenergetics for almost a decade now? Travis Harris: Not bioenergetics, working on my health for about that long. I don't know. I've probably been into Ray Peat's stuff for about three years now. Jayton Miller: Okay. Awesome. So what part of it do you enjoy the most, I would say? Travis Harris: There's so much variation and it's a combination of a lot of things I'm interested in. I like the understanding of metabolism and bioenergetics, how that kind of plays out as like a fundamental layer of reality, like the whole interplay of structure and function. It's just a fun thought experiment, but then, it's also super rewarding to be able to work one-on-one with people and then help them understand their bodies, understand what they need, understand that they can live a life free of a lot of restricted diets that keep them down to a certain way of living and yeah, just enjoy helping people find a new way that's sustainable, a new way of eating that they can just continue forever and not have to binge or fall off the wagon and hate themselves. Jayton Miller: Definitely. You talk about the individualization of eating and listening to your body. Do you mind going into that and why certain things might be different for other people? Travis Harris: Yeah. I think everyone I see is usually caught in some kind of cycle of stress, and where we intersect that cycle of stress is going to be different for everyone. Some people are severely allergic to certain foods. Some people have major microbial imbalance in the small intestine. Some people have severe, a lot of people have severe thyroid hypofunction. I can't diagnose anyone with hypothyroid, but I call it thyroid hypofunction. And then some people are just not eating enough and I help people understand, okay, well when your hands and feet are freezing, that's an adrenaline response. You probably need to eat something, something with protein, something with salt, something with a carbohydrate. Travis Harris: And because everyone's coming at it from a different set point, I can usually help people find foods that are safe and probably because I know what it's like to not have any safe foods and dug myself out of that hole on my own. So I know, okay, marshmallows, gummies, that may be the only thing you can eat for a little bit with gelatin and the anti-inflammatory protein glycine within the gelatin and simple carbohydrate, whether that's sugar, whether it's honey, whether it's juice to help restore metabolism. Jayton Miller: Awesome. What are some of the highest leverage factors that you see pretty consistently whenever you're working with people? Travis Harris: Biggest levers, sleep is obviously huge. But then once you go down into looking at sleep, you got to figure out, okay, why is this person not sleeping? Is it because there's some kind of mineral imbalance or is it because they're just not eating enough calories throughout the day, or do they need a bedtime snack or do they have a bunch of other stressors in their life that are contributing to them not being able to calm down and get into a parasympathetic state? So yeah, sleep is huge. Travis Harris: A lot of people are eating foods that are hurting them. I used to, I was very much like gluten intolerant, but didn't want to be one of those gluten-free people. So I was continuing to, I used to work in a wood shop and they had free bagels and a beer at the end of the day. So I was every day eating two or three bagels, having two or three beers after work and then always in pain and then just pound an Advil. So I see a lot of people that are just kind of stuck and that they're like, "I don't know what to eat. Everything hurts me." So yes, sleep, eating foods that really support you and not tear you down. And then a lot of people come into it with different ideas, like "I need to do intermittent fasting, or I need to do keto." So yeah, just understanding it helps to have a balance of macronutrients. You actually need all three of them. So yeah, I think those would probably be the top three levers. Jayton Miller: Nice. So one of the things you talk about is the rate of living theory versus the bioenergetic theory. Can you go into what those two are and how they're differentiated? Travis Harris: Yeah. Well, it's kind of funny. I guess the rate of living theory was popularized by a guy named Raymond Pearl. And then the bioenergetic theory is popularized by a guy named Raymond Peat. So the rate of living theory is what a lot of people in the fitness world or the biohacking world, or most diets, and even probably the allopathic medical system is based on, like you only have a certain amount of heartbeats. So a lower heart rate is good. You need to be like athlete. Look at athletes, they have a heart rate that's 40 beats per minute. Travis Harris: And then they of had this idea that will lead to a colder body and they think, "Okay, well, that's fine. 96, maybe we should make 96 degrees Fahrenheit the new average body temperature, maybe the less calories we eat the longer we'll live," because there's all these studies that are like caloric restriction leads to longevity. And again, you probably know this as well, but for the listeners, any study that shows even methionine restriction or even caloric restriction as increasing health or longevity, all of that, if you just add in glycine from gelatin and bone broth and collagen, and those kinds of products, you'll see the same effects that you were seeing from muscle meat restriction or caloric restriction. So that's the rate of living theory, you only have a certain amount of heartbeats, you need to be in a cold body. You got to preserve, preserve, preserve. Travis Harris: And then the bio-energetic theory is, in a lot of ways, the opposite of that. So it's we're focusing on a high rate of metabolism and we're focusing on a heartbeat between 70 and 90 and a warm body that's like flowing. I guess the technical definition of bioenergetics would be the study of the transformation of energy in living organisms and then how that energy changes. Yeah, so focusing on higher body temps, higher metabolism. And what that will do in the body, you can rest your gut all day long by fasting or eating a low residue diet. But without the flow of energy to the cells in your gut, you're not going to heal your gut. And that's what I had to realize the hard way is that I could eat all the raw meat and oysters and easily digestible animal foods without carbohydrates and raising that metabolic rate, there wasn't a whole lot of healing happening. I was removing all the challenges, but not actually getting stronger and moving towards a direction where I could eat more food. Does that answer the bioenergetic and? Jayton Miller: Definitely, yeah. For me, the rate of living theory is kind of like the reason that it is unappealing, because whenever I'm old and wrinkly, the last thing that I want to be is freezing to death and barely able to move. Travis Harris: Exactly. Yeah. Jayton Miller: It also reminds me of the abundance mindset versus the mindset of scarcity, and you're kind of looking at that from an energetic perspective, like you can either produce a bunch of energy and have an abundance of it, or you can not produce that much energy and slowly degrade the amount that you're producing. Travis Harris: Yeah, exactly. Did you see, I haven't watched all of it, but the latest, long, seven hour interview with Ray Peat? Jayton Miller: I was watching it last night. I got halfway through the first one. Travis Harris: Yeah. Yeah. That's about where I'm at. But he was talking about how, and I'm also reading The Body Electric, which is a really interesting book, but he was talking about how there's a electromagnetic field coming out a few inches from all your tissues, so like your skin. And the resonance of that electromagnetic field reflects the metabolic rate. There's definitely something to being an energetic person, having the proper flow of energy through the body. I don't know. It's super fascinating, just the whole interplay of structure and energy. I think it was Peat that said structure and energy are interdependent that every level of organization. So you can take that from organelles, cell, tissue, organ, organ system, organism, and then I'm sure it plays beyond the individual organism, because we're all emitting some kind of frequency. I don't want to sound like a total quack, but it's happening whether we realize it or not. Jayton Miller: Definitely. I can't remember if, I want to say it's Dr. Joe Dispenza who is taking measurements of these, but it could be somebody completely different. It's where whenever you have high stress hormones in the body, the amount of space that that electric field takes up will shrink and it'll come in towards the body. And then whenever you have more protective hormones, it will expand and give you like a wider breadth of energy that you're emitting, which is kind of interesting. That's what reminded me whenever he was talking about that. Travis Harris: Yeah. That's super fascinating. Jayton Miller: Definitely. So another thing that you talk really well on is the first 1,000 days of life, whenever it comes to conception of a child, and then possibly up to where they're two, three years old. Can you talk about that and maybe some ways that we can properly feed our children? Travis Harris: Yeah, yeah, totally. Well, the first 1,000 days I think is from conception to around two and a half or something, if that makes sense. Yeah. Two, two years old, something like that. And obviously, preconception is hugely important. And I think there's a girl on Instagram, I think you had her on your podcast before, Miranda? Jayton Miller: Yeah, Lauren. Travis Harris: Yeah. So she amazing at understanding the preconception and fertility and all that. For men, it's not going to get much better than liver and oysters and improving the metabolic rate through easily digestible carbohydrates and getting enough protein and all that. So I think it's just as important for the man to be in a good spot, preconception. That was one thing that really led me towards diving fully into the world of nutrition is my wife got pregnant a few years ago and I was like, "Okay, well, how do we make a decent baby?" I wanted to make a super baby. But I was like, "Okay, how do we just make a kid that's just not sick all the time," because I'm looking around and seeing all these kids that are just so sick. Travis Harris: So I think it's critically important to understand that a baby is made of the nutrients that the mom has. And so you have to make sure that the mom is getting everything she needs and keeping the flow of energy through the placenta. And yeah, really, it's like 10% of the minerals that the baby takes from the mom and then the last trimester, there's a massive transfer of nutrients and energy from the mom to the baby. And so, yeah, critically important to have easily digestible carbohydrates, I'd say at least 100 grams of protein, and that should be animal protein because some of the vegetable proteins are not as bioavailable. You're not going to get what you need from almond flour and pea protein. Travis Harris: Yeah. And nutrient dense foods like liver and oysters, I think are great for that time. I like raw milk. I don't think it's necessary for it to be raw for everyone, but I'm a big fan of it. So you have the baby and then ideally the mom has been supported enough to where she can breastfeed for at least a year or so. And obviously no shame on anyone that can't do that. But ideally that's where you'd be, you'd be supported enough to do that. Even breastfeeding through two years and beyond I think is good. And then obviously, when you start to introduce solid foods to your kid, I think the Weston A. Price Foundation has some decent stuff. I don't recommend Cod liver oil or anything like that, but I think eggs, like runny egg yolks are usually great. And this is not medical advice for anyone listening. But yeah, runny egg yolks, a little bit of liver if you can, and whatever is a easily digestible carbohydrate for them. Travis Harris: So it could look like stewed apples or mashed potatoes. Kids love this way of eating. They'll only eat what you put in front of them. If they've never had goldfish, they're not going to be screaming for goldfish. So yeah, we always just sat the food in front of our kid and he gets to decide how much of it he eats, but we decide what he's eating. But yeah, those first 1,000 days, that sets the tone for the rest of your life. I think you have like a few different times throughout your life where, like pre-puberty is also important because that's when some real epigenetic switches are being turned on or off. In that first 1,000 days is you're kind of going to flipping different epigenetic switches for your kid. And you want the best expression of the genes for your kid to set them up for a life of health and function. Jayton Miller: Definitely. Yeah. I think that's one thing that is very important and I think it's one thing that people don't really take enough time to really investigate whenever it comes down to it. So I really appreciate you putting that information out there. What other kind of things are you diving into right now? What are you interested in? Travis Harris: Oh man. I've been exploring a little bit more of what, because we talked about the bioenergetic theory being a fundamental layer of reality, been exploring different ideas of how that plays out in relationships or how it plays out in communities. Even, I just went down a rabbit hole of bioenergetic architecture. I don't know anything about Egypt or anything, besides a few Joe Rogan podcasts. But even the pyramids, I think it was pretty well established that they were conduits of energy and there's some electrical currents and fields going on just based on the structure and then the materials that made it. So that interplay of energy and structure, it's really fun and there's a lot of different areas you could take. It's just so fascinating. Jayton Miller: Definitely. What was the book that you mentioned earlier? Travis Harris: The Body Electric. Jayton Miller: Okay. Another one that I really recommend, kind of along that field, is Healing is Voltage. Travis Harris: I haven't read that yet. Jayton Miller: Yeah, that one's another really good one that highly recommend. Travis Harris: I'll write it down. Jayton Miller: Awesome. Travis Harris: So if we want to go down that route, that's why stuff like acupuncture, people find a lot of benefit in that. People find a lot of benefit and all kinds of different healing modalities because at the end of the day, it is a matter of improving the flow of energy through the body. So I focus on doing that nutritionally. I think that's a pretty good foundation, but for some people, it's going to be releasing trauma, it's going to be doing, well I didn't watch that episode, but you had Lauren and Theresa on there and Meg Langston. But Theresa does a lot of good stuff with the EFT, like the tapping thing. I think whatever strategies you can implement to get into a parasympathetic state are going to improve that flow of energy through the body. It's just cool that there is so many different ways that people have found to really heal and feel good. Jayton Miller: Definitely. The more that I tend to look into the somatic experience of the body and the health of the body, the more that I tend to hold weight to psychology and just the wellbeing of the mental state of the individual. One thing that I find really interesting is suppression and repression of certain experiences. So whenever something is suppressed, it's at the conscious level, so you can actively suppress it. Whenever something is repressed, it's subconsciously buried. Travis Harris: Yeah. Jayton Miller: So you're not aware of it. That's kind of where my interest is right now is how do we uncover those states that are stressing us out without us even knowing about it? Travis Harris: Yeah. Jayton Miller: And then how can we overcome that as quickly as possible? Travis Harris: Yeah. That's great. There's a lot of different strategies people use and they're called different things in different communities. I know some people are really into NLP and then there's different Christian communities that do something kind of similar to where you go back and you get in a really relaxed state and view some traumatic memories and reframe them or see yourself moving through that. Or let's say you have basically a movie playing on repeat in your subconscious, and it's some traumatic memory. And trauma can be anything super serious, like our bodies and our minds will place different emphasis on different things based on who we are. So a trauma for one person could be baby games for another person, but you go back and you look at some of those memories and reframe them and see, "I had support then. That wasn't that bad." Jayton Miller: Definitely. Do you have any tips for where someone would start with that? Travis Harris: Oh, man. I'm not like a master at meditating or anything like that, but taking some time to ask yourself those questions of "Okay, what is something that always brings itself out of nowhere?" And, "What are my trigger? What causes me anxiety? What are conversations that I tend to shut down? Yeah, basically just exploring your triggers and leaning into them. And then if you can get into somewhat of a meditative state, it doesn't have to be super crazy, but just relaxing and closing your eyes and then thinking about, "Okay, what are my triggers? How did they start? When was the first time I was triggered in this way?" And then seeing if you can just talk yourself through it or if you have a friend that you can express those things with, that's always going to be good too. Jayton Miller: Definitely. I think the biggest thing in my experience is making sure that I nurture humility. So to know that those things that are triggering me are most likely myself, not exactly the other person. Travis Harris: Exactly, yeah. Jayton Miller: And then journaling is always good. And I always like to do handwritten journaling versus typing it. I think the interaction with matter makes it a very novel experience. And sometimes it will be half a page, sometimes it'll be three, four or five pages. And depending on the state that you're in, it could come very quickly or it could just take a minute, but something will come out. So that's been very beneficial in my experience. Travis Harris: Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Jayton Miller: Sweet. So where can people find your work and stuff that you're doing right now? Travis Harris: Well I'm on Instagram, TravisHarrisfntp. And my website is TravisHarrisnutritionaltherapy.com. That's pretty much it. I'm on Facebook, but I don't use it. Jayton Miller: Sounds good. Well, I really appreciate your time. Thank you for hopping on here. And everybody listening, make sure to go give him a follow and check out his website. Travis Harris: Yeah, it was great talking to you, Jayton. Jayton Miller: Have a good one. Travis Harris: You too. Jayton Miller: Thanks for listening to the podcast. If you haven't already, make sure to hit the like button, subscribe and leave a comment down below if you want us to cover a different topic.
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In this episode of The Thermo Diet Podcast, Jayton Miller sits down with independent health researcher and coach Jay Feldman. Jay has been in the metabolic health realm for years now and has a very comprehensive knowledge of various aspects of metabolic theory and the human body. In this episode, they go over misconceptions around adaptation and hormesis why our adaptation to something doesn't make it beneficial Adapting to something to survive or thrive why adaptations to stress are harmful and aren't responsible for the benefits from things like exercise Epigenetic factors the problems with being a "fat-burner" and low-carb diets Why we don’t want to use fatty acids as fuel Beta oxidation vs glycolysis Hormones associated with this type of energy utilization Instagram: - @_christopherwalker @researchcowboy Jay's Website - https://jayfeldmanwellness.com/ Jay's Podcast - The Energy Balance Podcast https://umzu.com/ Full Transcript: Jayton Miller: Welcome back to Thermo Diet Podcast. I'm your host, Jayton Miller. And today I have on the podcast, Mr. Jay Feldman. I'm super excited for this episode. Some of the things that we talk about are the misconceptions and some of the misunderstandings around adaptation and hormesis, why our adaptation to something doesn't necessarily make it beneficial, adapting to something for survival versus thriving. Why adaptations to stress are harmful and aren't responsible for some of the benefits from things like exercise. We talk a little bit about the epigenetic factors. We talk a little bit about being a fat burner versus using the oxidative and glucose metabolism. So this is a very dense episode filled with information. I love talking to Jay, so I'm super excited for y'all to dive into this one. So let's get into it. Jayton Miller: How's it going today, guys? Welcome back to Thermo Diet Podcast. Today I have on the podcast, again, Mr. Jay Feldman. How are you doing today, Jay? Jay Feldman: I'm great, Jayton. How are you? Jayton Miller: Doing very well. For anybody who might not know who you are out there, you mind giving on a quick background story? Jay Feldman: Yeah. I, like many other people who end up trying to share a lot of health information and trying to help other people get better, I started with myself. Health became a real focus for me, starting basically with fitness where I was trying to improve my athletic performance, I want it to look good. And that took me down the dieting rabbit hole and nutrition rabbit hole. And I ended up making a lot of mistakes along the way, falling into low carb and a lot of caloric restriction trying to stay lean. After finding a lot of things that didn't work and ended up making me feel a lot worse, through that exploration and trying to figure out what was wrong, I ended up coming across what a lot of people call the bioenergetic view of health, and changed everything for me. Jay Feldman: And now I watch how much it changes the lives of other people, and I think it's a much better approach, of course, as we'll talk about today. Jayton Miller: Definitely. So for those who might not know the general perspective of the bioenergetic view, do you mind given your quick definition of that? Jay Feldman: Yeah. It's basically the view that our health is dependent on energy. Basically, the energy is the center of our health. And when I say energy, I'm not talking about some spiritual energy or anything like that, but rather energy on a physiological level, the actual energy that's produced in what everyone says is the powerhouse of ourselves, the mitochondria. A lot of times we'll talk about it in of ATP, but there's other... ATP is a good a barometer for energy, but energy can be held in all sorts of molecules and structural compounds. And so, it's looking at how, basically, all of our health, whether tissues or our ability to thrive, all depends on how much energy we have on that cellular level and how everything in our environment affects us on that level. Jay Feldman: That's basically, it's a lens through which we can view everything from nutrition to exercise and sleep and medications and learn from there. Jayton Miller: Definitely. So whenever we're categorizing things as far as healthy versus not healthy, anything that is not healthy would be interfering with the production or utilization of that energy, correct? Jay Feldman: Yeah. Yep, exactly. And of course, that gets a little complex. It's not always that easy to determine. And as we'll talk about today, there's a lot of things that might cause a reaction that leads to increased energy in the short term, that doesn't necessarily mean it's helping it in the longterm. It can get a little bit complicated, but it's normally the immediate effect on that energetic level will, as you said, determine whether something's helping us or harming us. Jayton Miller: Definitely. One of the things that I really wanted to talk about was the misconception around adaptation and hormesis. So can you give us a brief overview of some of the misconceptions that you've seen and experienced? Jay Feldman: Yeah. And just to define hormesis to start, which is a little bit tricky because there are a few different definitions that's morphed over the years to fit whatever narrative is being pushed. But initially, it was just this idea that giving a small amount of something that's very toxic, something like mercury or cadmium or radiation would lead to a defensive reaction in an organism, and that would lead to some health benefits. And this actually came about with a lot of industrial influence and trying to show that maybe radiation isn't as harmful as everyone's saying it is, and maybe polluting the environment or having these toxins in our food isn't such a big deal, maybe these things are actually helping us a bit. Jay Feldman: I don't think that's the case, but anyway, from there, it's morphed into this idea that anything, even if it's something that's not necessarily poisonous anything, that causes any amount of stress leads to that same kind of defensive reaction and adaptation, and that that's beneficial in the longterm. From there, it's even more further to become a very generic term that just means anything that can be good in small doses and bad in big doses or vice versa. And again, I think that's another way that this definition is morphed to make it sound like this is a very viable idea. Jay Feldman: But anyway, that second definition that anything that causes stress, a small amount of stress, is beneficial, is very commonly known and is applied to a lot of the low carb-dieting, it's applied to certain supplements like resveratrol and certain compounds like nitric oxide. And it's also applied to things like fasting and caloric restriction, where there's a lot of research and a lot of people in the health spaces saying that... Or another one is cold thermogenesis, dropping in some cold water, where there's this idea that giving your body a small amount of stress leads to some beneficial adaptations and makes our bodies stronger. And while there is some validity to it, I'll explain why I don't think it's really an accurate way of looking at things, and actually leads us down this path of thinking that, again, anything that causes some amount of stress is beneficial because it causes stress. Jay Feldman: And I think it's a relatively dangerous idea because obviously a lot of very harmful things because stress. And so I think there's some important clarifications to make there as far as why something might be helping us and also be causing stress at the same time. Jayton Miller: Definitely. I had Billy Craig on an interview yesterday, and I was talking to him about how they've seen older people who have lower metabolic rates and less energy utilization are able to live a little bit longer. But he was saying that if you actually look at the amount of calories they're using per unit of mass, their metabolic rate is actually phenomenally high. So whenever you're looking at those studies, it's usually a little bit jaded, I guess, a little bit in its perspective. So it's interesting that you touch on that. But in terms of hormesis, I've always seen it in the context of adapting to things as far as a performance perspective, so being able to run a mile and then adapting to that, being able to run two miles and things like that, which obviously endurance training is the opposite of what we want. Jayton Miller: But I've also seen a lot of benefits in the realm of the hormetic response to exercise, specifically resistance training. So I would definitely like to dive into that a little bit further as far as why that might not be favorable, and then some of the things that we can do in place of that. Jay Feldman: Yeah. And just to clarify too, adaptation is a part of what's considered to be hormesis or the hormetic response, but we can also adapt to things that are not hormetic or adapt to aspects of things that are not the stress. So just for the definition sake, I would say hormesis is adapting to the stress itself, whereas we can also adapt to other aspects of any stimulus. Exercise is a good example there where I do think that there are benefits to exercise, and those do come from adapting to that stimulus. But what I'll be arguing is that the adaptation is to certain effects that are not distress. Jay Feldman: When it comes to exercise, for example, you mentioned resistance training, when we're resistance training, we're putting tension on our musculoskeletal system on our musculofascial system, and that causes all sorts of adaptations. And I think you can argue that in the right dose, that's beneficial, but what people are arguing instead, and sometimes will change the training programs around this idea that it's the stress that's actually beneficial and causing those adaptations. And so we need to work out to failure or longer is better. There's some other details there, but there's this important delineation between why it's beneficial. And again, maybe we'll dig into a little bit, I would argue that the stress is not the reason. Jayton Miller: What do you think that reason is? Jay Feldman: Yeah. I think in the case of exercise, I think it is those specific effects. And I think this is a helpful delineation to make. This started with Hans Selye. He was one of the preliminary researchers talking about stress and our response to it, our adaptation to it. And so when he evaluated a stimulus, basically everybody at this time was aware of this idea that any stimulus would have effects that are specific to the stimulus. So exercise causes the certain tension that leads to muscle building, whereas sunlight is going to because increased melanin production in the skin, and on from there. Jay Feldman: Basically, anything that we are exposed to in our environment has unique effects to that stimulus, one of the many things that he researched and discovered, but this is in regard to stress, one of the things that was most noteworthy is he determined that there was a general effect, a universal effect that all stimuli have, and this is what he called the stressor effect. And so he basically said, "Yes, there's unique things to exercise as far as our response to it and there's unique things to sunlight and toxins and infections, but there's also a universal component," which he called the stressor effect, which basically came down to the usage of energy. Jay Feldman: His terms here were adaptation energy and I think evolving on that. I think it comes down to that physiological energy we were talking about earlier. I think that's this delineation we need to make is, between specific effects and stressor effects or the usage of energy. And what he found was that when we have too much of those stressors, it causes all sorts of degeneration, and that degeneration is universal, whether it's too much like exposure to an infection or excessive amounts of exercise, or too little nutrition, all of those things, they have specific effects, but they have the stressor effect, and when we have too much of that stress compared to the energy we have available to handle it, it causes all of this degeneration, all of these chronic health conditions that he did a pretty good job of mapping out. Jay Feldman: And again, with this idea of hormesis, people have taken this to say that that stress, the stressor effect, is actually what's beneficial. And you'll hear this pretty often, which is that we're looking for certain end points like autophagy or mitochondrial biogenesis, or some sort of stimulation of mitochondrial respiration that these increases in lifespan, that these are all things that happened in response to small amounts of stress and that they're beneficial. And the way that this has done has to do, basically on the physiological level, with... The stress comes down to a lack of energy and the production of reactive oxygen species. So any time that we're lacking in energy or energy-producing systems are disrupted, we have this increase in reactive oxygen species. Jay Feldman: And again, from that view of hormesis, that's why exercise is beneficial, or that's why cold thermogenesis is beneficial. In the case of cold thermogenesis, you're activating stress that's somewhat unique to temperature, you've got the heat shock proteins and all of that. But it all travels through this same generalized pathway that Selye was referring to, which has to do with the production of reactive oxygen species and the activation of all of these signals that are saying that our body doesn't have energy. AMPK is one of the main ones there as well. You've got the whole Nrfs and JNKs, all these basically inflammatory pathways, all of these pathways that are activated when we're starving or when we're under considerable stress. Jay Feldman: And again, from this hormetic view, small amounts of those things lead to all these supposed that benefits, it leads to autophagy, it leads to mitochondrial biogenesis, meaning you're producing more mitochondria so you should be able to produce more energy. And with autophagy, is the idea that you're clearing out like damaged cells or debris. So these are supposed to be good things. And I'm not necessarily saying that those are bad things, but I think that there are better ways to achieve them that don't require this depletion of energy, even in the short term and the stress that's caused. Jayton Miller: So do you think that there's a threshold that we can meet? And do you usually differentiate what would be under that threshold as eustress and then above that being distress? Jay Feldman: Yeah. I'm glad you brought that up. I don't think it's a threshold problem, but I think it's an important thing to bring up. So there is this idea of eustress and distress, and this was these word terms that Hans Selye used. And eustress was something that was stressful, but was still beneficial, and distress was something that was stressful, but was overall harmful. And those are important distinctions to make, but my problem with that language is that it makes us think that it's just the amount of stress that matters, and that's what you're saying with this threshold, where it's eustress if it's below a certain threshold and it's distress if it's above a certain threshold. Jay Feldman: And I think a better way to look at it is that it's eustress or it's something that's beneficial if the specific effects of that stimulus outweigh the stressful effects. So what I would say is that the stress is always going to be harmful. Basically, you never want to be doing something that's going to disrupt our ability to produce energy or deplete excessive amounts of energy, drive this excessive reactive oxygen species production without enough energy. I'm going to say that those things are never ideal, there's always a cost there, there's always some harm there. Jay Feldman: And I think that makes sense that when we zoom out a bit and think about our adaptation to that, where an adaptation to something that's harmful, it does tend to improve our ability to handle things that are harmful, but it also comes at the cost of degrading ourselves where more used to that. So this idea, I guess I would say, as far as the threshold is not related to how much stress, but rather whether these other effects of these stimuli are beneficial enough to outweigh the stressful effects. So reduced fasting as an example, a lot of people find benefits on fasting, and we also know that that's universally stressful, it's basically a short term starvation. Jay Feldman: And what I would say is that the people who are finding benefits from fasting are finding benefits from those specific effects, and those specific effects would be, you're no longer getting any food in your digestive tract so you're not producing any endotoxin or feeding any pathogens in your gut so you've found a lot of relief there. Or maybe if somebody is eating a lot of foods that are relatively toxic, whether they've got a bunch of additives and preservatives in there, or a bunch of anti-nutrients or whatever it is, they're not eating those anymore, so that's going to bring some relief. So those things might lead to somebody's feeling better in that case and at the same time they're still having that stress from the short-term starvation. Jay Feldman: But I would say if you're noticing benefits from fasting, it's most likely because those specific effects outweigh the stressful effects. And so I would say that that's a better way to look at something like eustress, although, again, I don't like the definition because it's not about the stress necessarily. But what's important about that delineation is that we don't always have to make that choice.... We don't always have to take the bad with the good, we can have those beneficial, specific effects of not irritating our gut and of not taking in toxins without the stressful side of fasting. Jay Feldman: So that's some of the application of this anti-hormesis idea, is that you can still have a lot of those benefits from these interventions without the excessive stress. And that's what you mentioned too, as far as exercise goes, where you could have resistance training versus like long-distance cardio, and that both of those, you're going to have some beneficial effects or are going to have some stimulation of the muscles. And they're not the same, it's a crude example, but in one, you're going to have excessive amounts of stress and the other, you have much less, you have much less of an energy drain. Jayton Miller: Definitely. What are some of the things that people can pay attention to to know whether or not the benefits that they think that they're experiencing are actually beneficial to the organism? Jay Feldman: Yeah, that's a good question, and maybe this is what you're getting at, is that sometimes when we're doing things that are really stressful, they might feel good because we've got a lot of adrenaline coursing through our veins and that feels pretty good, it feels like we've got a lot of energy, even though it is coming at a pretty major long-term cost. It's not always really that easy to determine. In the long-term, we always find out, but of course it's helpful to know in the short term. Jay Feldman: There are some indicators that I think can be helpful, and the biggest one is how you feel, but it's not only if you have energy, but are you able to sleep? For example. So a lot of people who go to low carb and know that they have a lot of that, well, they don't know that they have adrenaline, but they feel like they've got good energy, but at the same time, they can't sleep at night, they can't stay asleep, they can't sleep through the night, they can't fall asleep. So, that's a good sign of excess adrenaline. Of course it's not always quite that clear cut either where things are improving, everything is automatically better. Jay Feldman: But in general, using any symptom that would see is helpful, how well is your brain functioning? Do you have a calm energy or more of a manic energy? Again, are you able to rest and relax and go to sleep? Do you have any digestive symptoms? Temperature can be another good indicator where if our temperatures are elevated due to stress hormones and then we eat some carbohydrates and our temperatures go down, that's what we would see. Whereas, if you don't have high stress amounts and you need some carbohydrates, your temperature should stay the same or go up. So, that can be a good indicator too. Jay Feldman: But part of the other side of this, as much as experience is really helpful, also understanding, I think, the physiology is helpful too. So you have that combination there of an idea of where we should be going and what we should be looking for to make sure that we are not just feeling good because of these short-term stress hormones. Jayton Miller: Definitely. I noticed that for me personally, whenever I cross that line, I guess, to a little bit too much stress, my digestion is the first thing to go. As soon as my digestion starts to mess up, I know that I need to take a step back, examine what I'm doing, slow down, rest. And then I also find that my fingers and my toes will freeze up almost immediately on a daily basis. So I also watch that very closely. Jay Feldman: Yeah, that's a perfect indicator, hands and feet being cold, which can happen even if your temperature is relatively normal, but that's a really good sign of stress hormones. Yeah. Jayton Miller: Definitely. So do you ever take into consideration the possible epigenetic factors that come into play with hormesis as well? Jay Feldman: Yeah. As you were saying earlier, hormesis and adaptation go hand in hand a bit, and I think that there are some important misconceptions with adaptation too. It's the same idea where it's like if we adapt to something that's harmful, we'll become stronger, we'll become better at dealing with it. And again, that does tend to happen, we become, you could also say less sensitive to it. And this is very clear when you look at some of the organisms that they do these studies on. One of the most common ones is C elegans, which is a worm, a very, very small worm. And what they find is that when they put it under a lot of stress or small amounts of "hormetic stress", it does live longer and it has this lifespan extension. Jay Feldman: And that's cited all the time as a support for caloric restriction or support for any other sort of hormesis. And one of the really important components there that's not normally acknowledged is that C elegans, when it's under stress, enters basically a hibernation state called douer. And in that hibernation state, it's not functioning like it normally would, instead, its entire body switches towards the stress system, it starts to run on fats instead of glucose, it starts to down-regulate the amount of energy it's producing very significantly. And I don't think it moves around in the same way. It's basically not even viable where it would be very hard for it to survive in the wild, but because it's in a lab, it can survive longer. Jay Feldman: So you have this adaptation to stress and it's allowing for extended life and it's better able to deal with all these stresses, but it's because it's not really living, I mean, it's function is so degraded. I think that's a good picture to consider when we're talking about adaptation, whether that adaptation is happening within a lifetime or down hereditarily and to future generations. And again, you mentioned epigenetics, and that is where that's coming into play. I mean, we're turning on and off different genes and activating all these various proteins. And I think the biggest factor to consider here is that big picture, where when we are adapting to things that are harmful, we become better at handling harmful things at the cost of higher structure and greater complexity. Jay Feldman: And so there are a lot of epigenetic adaptations to that, and we see that in humans, when we look at what's happened in populations that had significant starvation and then you look down the line and they're more prone to obesity, the children are. And beyond rat and cat studies where they've put them under some stress and then they look a couple of generations down and they see that there's degeneration going on. So there are epigenetic effects too when we're adapting to anything, whether it's bad or good, but when we are adapting to this harmful things, I would say that they're generally negative. Jay Feldman: And part of the problem here is that, I know I talked about autophagy and mitochondrial biogenesis as a couple of those main things. I don't see those as harmful. It is seen that in chronic health conditions and diseases, there are defects in autophagy and it is seen that... But at the same time, what's important to consider too, is that in those diseases, there's also excessive stress, there's also excessive reactive oxygen species production. So if we're under this idea that a small amount of stress is good and leads to these benefits yet excessive stress leads to defects and these sorts of autophagy and adaptations, I look at that as a good example for the fact that we want those adaptations to be working properly. Jay Feldman: We want to be able to increase autophagy when we're exposed to stress. And if we drive too far in that route, we lose our ability to adapt. But rather than wanting to stimulate autophagy directly by causing stress, we can actually do it through alternative means. And again, it comes down to some of the biochemistry here and some of the details, but we also end up seeing reactive oxygen species production when we're producing a lot of energy as like a breaking mechanism. That's normally why it's down in the first place, is that when we're under stress and we're not able to produce energy efficiently, we turn off that system because if we produce too many of these reactive oxygen species, we end up with a ton of damage and destruction, so it's like this alarm signal. Jay Feldman: But the signal also happens if we're producing a lot of energy and we have enough where we have this excess of end product of ATP that's stopping everything up earlier in the line, and that also leads to reactive oxygen species production and stops or slows down respiration, switches it over to fat oxidation and slows it down with all these braking systems. But in this case, there's a major difference, which is that we're protected by the higher levels of ATP and higher levels of carbon dioxide and the higher energy state of the cell. And that protects us against any damage from the reactive oxygen species and allows us to still have things like mitochondrial biogenesis and autophagy and improve our ability to not adapt to harm, but actually improve our capacity for greater energy and greater structural complexity, but without any of these other signals that often come in the form of stress hormones. Jay Feldman: When you have the high reactive oxygen species and low energy, you have the AMPK signals going on, you eventually have adrenaline and cortisol going on. And those all lead to long-term depression of thyroid and prometabolic hormones. Whereas when you have high energy and elevated reactive oxygen species, you don't have all those stress signals. You just have those adaptations that we're looking for that are defective in these chronic diseases, but without the harmful effects that lead to all those partially epigenetic adaptations and also non-epigenetic adaptations, but it's a major difference just that the presence of energy and the lack of presence of those stress signals. Jay Feldman: And I would say that that's really where we see the major difference physiologically between something that we're adapting to that's stressful and harmful and requires us to conserve energy and decrease our structure so we can handle whatever's there as opposed to something that supports us energetically, allows our bodies to say, "Hey, I don't need to conserve energy right now, my environment's great. I can kick up all of my functions, my thyroid function, my reproductive function, my digestive function. I can send blood out to my hands and feet so that they can stay warm as opposed to needing to keep them in our internal areas or internal organs, so that way they can stay warm." All those things that go together and support that higher energy state as opposed to driving towards the lower one. Jayton Miller: Definitely. Do you think that that is responsible for the association that people see between calorie surpluses and inflammation? Jay Feldman: Meaning the high energy, but also some reactive oxygen species production? Jayton Miller: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Jay Feldman: I don't know about that. One other factor when it comes to caloric restriction and caloric surplus is what are the foods. And I think that's a major issue when it comes to all a lot of the caloric restriction researches, they found that, yeah, there's all these benefits there, but you also get those benefits when you just restrict the inflammatory amino acids. You also get those benefits when you reduce endotoxin, and you also get those benefits when you reduce PUFA. And all of those things are shown to be correlated with lifespan and disease. So I guess you could flip that too with the caloric surplus where the question is, is it the caloric surplus, or is it what those calories are made up of? Jay Feldman: I think that that's more of what it is, we have a defective metabolism and you add in more fuel to that fire as opposed to a well-functioning metabolism, or when you add more fuel, it just keeps it running, it keeps it running at a higher level. I don't know what if there was something specific you were referring to as far as caloric surplus and inflammation, but I think when it comes to like the rat research and stuff like that, I think that's more of how I would see it. Jayton Miller: Definitely. No, that answers my question perfectly. One other thing that I'm curious about is, what if somebody is trying to strengthen the buffer that they have to the stress over time, whether it's increasing work capacity for a certain amount of exercise to take place, or just increasing their buffer on a daily basis to the stress that they face? Jay Feldman: We have, again, these two paths here around, one path it's getting used to the stress more and getting more acquainted with it, versus on the other side, when we're supporting the energy producing systems, we also end up with a greater energy pool, a greater energy availability, which means that we have more to pull from before we're causing stress. So I would prefer to go that latter route. And as far as how that looks, some of this does come down to specific effects too where you are strengthening your muscular fascial system, those connections and the strength there. Jay Feldman: And there's actually a couple different types of muscular building, and one in particular tends to go more of a stress, and the other tends to go more with lower stress. And that one with the less stress has to do with more protein building whereas the other one has to do with more swelling and increased resources, more fuel in the muscle cells. And so that protein moments is the mild fibrillar. I would say that those adaptations are going to happen due to the specific effects, for example, if you're lifting weights, because you are adapting to that stimulus, you are going to have improved, increased protein concentration in those areas, building up that protein of the muscle cells. Jay Feldman: You're also going to have increased neuromuscular tone and ability to contract, contractility there, which is actually one of the main factors responsible for increases in strength when people first start working out. When you watch someone work out and they go from only being able to bench 20 pounds to 60 in six weeks, that's not because they put on all this muscle, of course, they might be putting on some, but most of it, it's a neuromuscular connection. So those things are all strengthening and those are independent of stress, they're just specific to the stimulation. Jay Feldman: So I would say that that's really what we want to be going forward when you would want to be improving work capacity as opposed to improving capacity towards stress. So I guess another way I would say it is that, I think it's more ideal health wise to be trying to improve our capacity for something like strength than to be able to handle something like excessive stress. So I think that the only way you're going to improve your ability to run super long distances is to create adaptations to that stress. I just think that there's a cost there. If somebody wants to do it, that's fine, but I think we want to recognize that cost there too. Jay Feldman: And you can minimize that cost by improving your resilience distress, making sure you're getting a lot of fuel, all of that, but there is a cost just by wanting to adapt to that. If we wanted to adapt to living in the Tundra, we can, people do it and they have epigenetic adaptations, genetic adaptations, all sorts of really interesting things, but it also, I would argue, comes at the cost of less structural complexity in the long term. So it depends on what we're trying to adapt to, but in the case of specifically work capacity, it depends on if it's more dependent on strengthen and function as opposed to needing to deal with stress and resilience. Jay Feldman: One other factor there too is economy. So with runners, for example, they become more economic with the way they run as they continue to practice, so they end up having less stress and requiring less energy to do the same amount of work. So that's another factor there too that will improve just by continuing to adapt to those things. Jayton Miller: Interesting. Whenever it comes to resistance training specifically, do you tend to see a difference between eccentric and concentric muscle contractions? Because I believe within the concentric part of the contraction, there's an anabolic effect with a testosterone response and then the eccentric effect is a catabolic response to the cortisol response. Do you have any tips there? Jay Feldman: Yeah. And of course, you can't always minimize one or the other. A lot of movements have aspects of both, but I do think that the eccentric leads to more of that stress response and adaptation which can lead to big muscles, but it doesn't mean they're necessarily functional muscles, it doesn't mean it's overall as healthy. So I do think to whatever extent you can, I guess, you could say favoring the concentric another way to put it would just be not doing focused eccentric work where you're going super slow for four seconds down or whatever. So I do think probably just not focusing on the eccentric is better for health. Jayton Miller: Yeah. What about the ability to increase mental capacity or the ability to work more with the mind rather than physical? Jay Feldman: There's this funny study when I was looking for all the hormesis research where they were saying that, "Hey, this applies to the brain too. When the brain is under stress, it responds and improves its capacity." And one of the studies they cited was looking at elderly people in some retirement home or nursing home or something. And it was saying that when they're reading books and playing cards, their neurological capacity is increased. And they were saying that was a sign of hormesis that these things were causing stress. It just goes to show how much they've morphed this definition and how convoluted it's become. But that I don't think that those things are quite all that stressful. Jay Feldman: And I think that to attribute those benefits to the stress caused by playing cards, even the physiological stress, I think is ridiculous, but I think it applies in the way where stimulating those neurological connections in whatever capacity, I think, leads to adaptations that leads to improvement there. Some people have the same idea where if you don't use it, you lose it, and I don't necessarily agree with that. I think that having improved brain capacity is a part of improved complexity. And considering that, I think, that it should be something that improves, I guess, even if you weren't stimulating it, but I don't know how that would work, it's not like something you could see in practice. Jay Feldman: But I do think having stimulation is good. For example, if we're under a lot of psychological stress, I don't think that's going to be leading to us becoming smarter, for example, I think it will lead to you maybe getting more "resilience." Sometimes that, again, comes at the cost of being able to tap into your emotions or being able to think real clearly or think about higher level things. We will adapt to that stress, I don't think that's what we really want to be going for though. I don't know if that answered your question. Jayton Miller: Definitely. Yeah. I think this was also one of the things that I talked about in my conversation with Billy, he said that during starvation periods, the brain can shrink up to 2%. So if you're in Kellogg restriction, the brain actually shrinks to where you only have the capabilities of the more primordial parts of the brain and the complexity and abstraction diminishes as the brain shrinks in size, which makes a lot of sense. It's also interesting. Have you seen any of the research in regards to the brain taking up 80% of the metabolism whenever it's in states of basically like a flow state? Jay Feldman: I haven't seen that. Interestingly, I was looking into that and then some of the research that I've found, which there's an all that much was actually saying that whether our brains active or not it ends up using about the same amount of fuel or the same percentage of fuel, I don't know if that's... I'd be interested to see something that shows otherwise for sure, but I haven't seen that, but it wouldn't surprise me if there was some uptake in activity, even without any increase, our brain already uses, I think around 20 to 25% our total caloric needs, if you want to think of it that way, but just our total fuel, which is of course, a massive amount proportionately. I think proportionately, it's only about 2% of our total body. Jay Feldman: So as far as caloric restriction and brain health, that definitely doesn't surprise me, that it would shrink and capacity would shrink. If you look at the Minnesota starvation experiment and what happened to their mental capacity when they were eating 1,800 calories a day as opposed to the regular 3,300, maybe 1,600 calories, they were not the same people at all. A lot of them were failing their classes or weren't even able to go, they couldn't hold up relationships. They had no sense of humor, they had no interest in sex, they had no libido. And it went beyond that too, some of them had psychotic breaks. Jay Feldman: When you talked about more primordial things, some of them ended up stealing food from trash cans. It completely changes our mental capacity, that's for sure. Jayton Miller: Definitely. I guess taking another direction for a second, one of the things that I would like to get your opinion on is the adaptation that we have to becoming a fat burner versus utilizing glucose as fuel. Can you take us through that transition and why it might not be favorable? Jay Feldman: Yeah. In line with that bioenergetic lens, I think it always makes the most sense to start on that energetic level and what's actually happening there. Basically, I would say that fat is much less efficient as a fuel, and there's biochemical reasons for that that I'll mention. And also, there's other evidence to support this, just the idea that our brains can't use fat, they have to rely on glucose or ketones, which we'll get to ketones. But the short of it just looking at sugar versus fat, fat will cause way too much reactive oxygen, species production, and it cause too many breaks in mitochondrial respiration to be supportive of our brain energy needs, which as we said, those energy needs are pretty high, and so it's a good model to look at as far as what things look like when they need to function well. Jay Feldman: Whereas other areas of our body can deal with lower energy. When we're looking on that biochemical level and that physiological level of what's actually happening when we use one versus the other for fuel, when we use glucose for fuel, assuming that we've got the nutrients we need, there's no brakes on the system from polyunsaturated fats or endotoxin or anything else, everything runs very smoothly, quickly, there's nothing stopping that process unless we produce so much ATP that we don't need any more. We produce a lot of NAD, which keeps our NAD to NADH ratio high, which keeps the electron transport chain functioning well. Jay Feldman: We also produce a lot of CO2, which helps to increase oxygen offloading into the cell, which allows for further increased respiration. So it's a very cohesive system that basically allows us to produce a lot of energy. And when we have fat metabolism, we basically have the opposite. And there's very good reasons for that, you mentioned adaptation where basically we need to have some system that allows us to put on the brakes, for example, if we're not eating. If we're not eating carbs, that's one thing, but low carb metabolism is the same as starvation metabolism. And when that happens, when we're starving, if we adapted to starvation by increasing the amount of energy we use, we will not last very long when we starved. Jay Feldman: So because of that instead, anytime we're in a suboptimal environment, but starvation is a pretty rough one, we have to slow down how much energy we're using, stop our thyroid from functioning as much, stop our reproductive hormones, slow everything down. We can deal with the cold hands and feet, so that way we can survive. And so fat metabolism is basically the perfect picture of that, where there are a couple of differences. One is that there's less carbon dioxide being produced, which means less oxygenation, which is one way that there's this break on the system. The other one is that we have a lot more, FADH2 being produced. Jay Feldman: Basically there's some competition in the electron transport chain between the donation of electrons from NADH and the donation of electrons between FADH2 where they both use the same... They basically both rely on ubiquinone availability, and so when you have a lot of FADH2 donating electrons, it slows down the drop-off of electrons from NADH and leads to a buildup of NADH, which decreases the NAD to NADH ratio. And that then has effects all throughout, like higher up in the energy producing processes to slow things down because the availability of NAD helps to drive, basically speed things up. Jay Feldman: And so when you have this excess NADH, it puts all of these other breaks on the system which happens during fat metabolism. And that's another way that things are slowed down on that immediate energy level. And it also increases the production of reactive oxygen species at the same time, which leads to some of those adaptations we talked about earlier. It does lead to autophagy, it does lead to mitochondrial biogenesis, these kinds of backup pathways that are there to help us survive these, in this case, they're there to help us survive these rough times. So starting from that energetic level. Jay Feldman: And it's important to note here too, whenever we look at something like fat metabolism in the short term, you see those breaks, you see the slowing down of respiration, then there's always an adaptive effect, I mean, it is an adaptation, but there's always a rebound effect where if your body is still needing to function, at first, it's like, "Hey, I still need energy." And it basically has all these backup pathways, and one of them is through sirtuins or SIRT search. But sirtuins are known as like longevity promoting proteins, but it's basically a backup pathway to fix the low NAD to NADH ratio from fat metabolism and any other stress. Jay Feldman: So you have the activation of all these backup pathways to bring that NAD to NADH ratio back up so you can still produce energy, especially in the short term our body's like, it might be a little bit of stress, but we can get through it. And so initially, you see this dampening effect and then a rebound effect, and then in the long term you just see the dampening effect, it just has that long-term cost. But again, that short-term rebound is why some people say it's beneficial, but again, I would argue that, you still have the long-term effect too which is just smaller. And if you continue for longer period of time, it's going to show, even if you're doing it for a short period of time, you're not going to have a benefit, you're just going to have that stress hormone response. Jay Feldman: And that's another part of it too, that's why people sometimes will feel good when they switched to fat metabolism, they've got that adrenaline going. That's where all those kinds of adaptations start, and then again, big picture we have the increased stress hormone production, which is the mediator that tells our bodies things are not good right now, if this continues for any longer, we have to start shutting everything down. And so that's eventually what you get when you're adapting to fat metabolism and fat burning. Jayton Miller: Yeah. We tend to call that the catecholamine honeymoon, that first like 30 to 60 days where people feel really good, and then after that, it's usually pretty downhill. Can you go through some of the similarities that fat burning state has with caloric restriction? Jay Feldman: Yeah. Basically, they really mimic each other where if we don't have any food, we start to shift in the same way. So anytime that we see energy depletion starting on that cellular level, we have the activation of all of these signal, AMP kinase, which is saying there's no ATP around. You've typically got reactive oxygen, species production, which says that there's some kind of stress or damage. And it activates all these pathways that activate stress hormones, and those stress hormones lead to a couple of things. For one they decrease.... Jay Feldman: In the short term, some days they'll increase... The first thing will try to do is increase glucose release from the liver. So that way we can still maintain some glucose metabolism. If that is not enough to immediately solve what's going on, then they'd say, "All right, we've got to start increasing fat metabolism." You start to pull fat from our body fat stores. If that's still going on and that's not enough to deal with that immediate energy problem, which is nonstop, if you're starving or caloric restriction, like just minor starvation, it's going to keep happening. Jay Feldman: And then if it's so much to the point that there's still not enough food available, especially for the brain, if there's not enough glucose, they'll start to lead to ketone production and liver, which again, is driven by stress hormones just as part of that backup system. So you basically have the same response, it's just a matter of to what extent. Sometimes it can be to a much greater extent with low carb versus just a small amount of caloric restriction, it depends, but in both cases, you're having the same stress responses that are happening due to the low energy on that cellular level, leading to those stress signals, leading to the bigger mediators being the stress hormones, glucagon, epinephrine, cortisol, and then eventually, it continues branching out from there. Jayton Miller: Interesting. One of the things that I was curious about is how people tend to see an increase in insulin sensitivity whenever they're in a caloric deficit, but at the same time, from a logical perspective, to me, the increase in the amount of free fatty acids in the blood would lead to more of the Randle cycle happening. So do you know what's going on in that pathway right there? Jay Feldman: Yeah. There's a couple of things. One is that insulin drives down the stress hormones and drives down free fatty acids, and so glucose partially by stimulating insulin production. So if you're starving and then you take in some carbohydrates, that's going to increase insulin, drop all those stress hormones, stop gluconeogenesis, stop all that fat release and drive down free fatty acids and allow for the uptake of the glucose. So it's basically like, because you're in that low fuel-stress state, you're more ready to take up the carbs. Jay Feldman: And the same thing happens, even if we're just fasting overnight, which we all do when we sleep, it's much less stressful because our demands are much lower, but that's why when we wake up, we tend to be pretty insulin sensitive too and we tend to have a lot of carb cravings. And the same thing is after we exercise, basically when our carbs are depleted, we're very sensitive to our need for more carbs. And it's still mediated through those same stress hormones, but basically, you have this dropping of stress hormones very quickly and dropping of free fatty acids. The other thing too is that free fatty acids are part of it, but it also has to do with the ability to uptake glucose. Jay Feldman: I think in some situations, high free fatty acids are more correlated with insulin resistance rather than being causative. It is true that with the Randle cycle, you only have basically one choice, you're either using fat or carbs and both prevent the other from functioning at the same time in one cell, not necessarily throughout the body, but it can switch back and forth very easily. And if the cell is basically very low on glucose and able to metabolize, it's going to be taking it up and switching right back over if it has it available. Normally, the problem in insulin resistance is not high free fatty acids first, normally there's something else blocking its ability to use carbs. Jay Feldman: So then we have to increase free fatty acids as that backup pathway. And yes, then it's just focusing on free fatty acids as its fuel, but once our carb metabolism is somewhat fixed and you've got those carbs available, it's going to switch it back. Jayton Miller: Okay. Interesting. What is your perspective on being fat adapted? So the ability to flirt with that line and jump back and forth across it. Jay Feldman: It's funny just because there's this idea, being fat adapted and metabolic flexibility too where... The thing that I think is funny there is the idea that you have to do something in order to be able to metabolize fats, but that's our default backup state. Nobody is just running on carbs because they can't run on fat, if anything, it's the other way around, they would be just running on fat because they can't run on carbs. Carbs, there's a lot more factors that can be limiting it and if you're low on energy, you're always going to be tending towards the fat side anyway due to all those stress signals. Jay Feldman: So I would say that fat metabolism is that default backup state. And again, that doesn't mean that we can't be using any fat at any time and that that's always a bad thing. For example, our muscles don't need a lot of energy when they're just hanging out when we're just at rest, and so they're fine using the decent amount of fat. And fat is used for various other things too, so I'm not anti-fat, I just think it's just not as good at producing high levels of energy in short period of time. I think normally when people are talking about that, it more really has to do with impaired carbon metabolism and often there's some gut issues there, but we should always be able to use either fuel, but as we've talked about, we don't really want to adapt to using fat as our main fuel, there's a big cost there. Jay Feldman: And just because we can do it, it doesn't mean it's good for us in our long run or good for our descendants and the human species in the long run. I think that that's going to lead to a lot of adaptations to basically having less energy, and those don't tend to go in the direction that we want them to. Jayton Miller: Definitely. I completely agree. Well, Jay, I won't take up too much more of your time today. I really appreciate you hopping on here and talking to everybody. Where can people find you and follow you and stuff like that? Jay Feldman: Yeah, yeah, Thanks for having me. That's fun. My website is Jayfeldmanwellness.com. I've got a bunch of articles like free things on there. And a couple of those articles are dealing with hormesis. They're pretty long and really digging into all the research for anyone who's interested. And then I also have a podcast called The Energy Balance Podcast. You can find it from my website or you can just search it anywhere that you listen to podcasts. And yeah, check it out. Jayton Miller: Heck yeah. Sweet. Well, for all those who listen, make sure to check out his podcast because I personally do listen to it consistently on Spotify, so make sure to check it out. I enjoy it and I know you all will too. You have a good one. Jayton Miller: Thanks for listening to the podcast, if you haven't already, make sure to hit the Like button, subscribe and leave comment down below if you want us to cover a different topic.
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In this episode of the Thermo Diet Podcast Jayton Miller sits down with Tyler Woodward, a biology student at the University of Maryland. They talk about a lot of the different myths that are floating around the fitness space, from how to lose weight to how to build muscle in the best way possible. Check it out and let us know what you think! Instagram: - @_christopherwalker ( https://www.instagram.com/_christophe... ) - @researchcowboy ( https://www.instagram.com/researchcow... ) Tyler's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/tylerwoodward__/ https://umzu.com/ Full Transcript: Jayton Miller: Welcome back to the Thermo Diet Podcast. I'm your host, Jayton Miller, and today I have on the podcast, Mr. Tyler Woodward. Tyler Woodward has been working for UMZU for over a year now. He is a biology student at the University of Maryland and he has absolutely been killing it for us whenever it comes to writing scientifically backed articles and talking about principle and logical based ways to obtain certain health goals. One of the things that he's written on recently is weight loss versus fat loss, fat loss myths, weight gain and muscle gain, optimal versus efficient muscle gain, weightlifting myths, nutrition myths. He's also written a bunch of different articles over blood flow, supplements for blood flow, foods for blood flow, things like that, so he is very knowledgeable and I am super excited for you all to listen to this one. So, without further ado, let's get into it. Jayton Miller: Welcome back to the Thermo Diet Podcast. I am your host, Jayton Miller, and today I have back on the podcast, Tyler Woodward. How are you doing today, Tyler? Tyler Woodward: I'm great, Jayton. How are you? Jayton Miller: I'm doing very well. For the people who might not know who Tyler Woodward is yet, do you mind kind of giving them a brief overview of who you are and what you do? Tyler Woodward: Yeah. I'm currently a student at the University of Maryland. I'm studying a degree in physiology and neurobiology. Basically, just a fancy word for a biology major. I've been working for UMZU the last year. Since it started last summer, really. I was working a little bit online before that. I just really started going down fitness journey, like with [Kinobody 00:01:33], when I was a sophomore in high school or freshman in high school, and just kind of dug deeper and deeper into it. Started getting more into supplements, nutrition, found UMZU, and eventually reached out to Christopher Walker. Like, yo, I love what you guys are doing. I really see... I really believe in this company and I see myself being a part of it. And, now, the rest of history. Jayton Miller: Heck yeah. It's almost mind boggling how close our stories are whenever it comes to how we got involved. Tyler Woodward: It is. I literally said... When I describe you to anyone, I'm like, dude, it's literally like if I had just not went to college and started working there, pretty much. Except you ski, which is... you know. Jayton Miller: Yeah, I know. And I have a beard, so that helps, too. Tyler Woodward: Well, I shaved... You're supposed to shave after November. You obviously didn't follow the rules. Jayton Miller: I mean, I cleaned it up, for sure. Tyler Woodward: Mine wouldn't be looking so nice right now. Jayton Miller: Something that you've been looking into recently is going into the new year and trying to figure out different kinds of prioritization and body composition goals and stuff like that. Do you mind going into some of that stuff? Tyler Woodward: Yeah. So, I think New Year's resolutions at the end of the day are kind of like a marketing scheme, right? It's the gyms and everyone pushing all these sales and nutritional supplements so that you are this year... and it's a great time to start with a resolution or a goal in general. It's the start of a new year. May as well start new. But I think it's just as much of marketing scheme at this point to push people to join the gyms. Everyone knows a January gym surge where everyone's going to gym. And so my goal in writing this article was to simplify it down. To make it more principle and logical based and help you guys, and help anyone, weed through all the complications that we see in mainstream, how many myths there are, and just allow you... provide you guys with the education to make your own decisions. Whether or not you believe what I say, that's completely up to you. I would love for you to respectfully disagree with me. That's part of the scientific process, right? I hope my principles were logically based in that it's hard to disagree with. That was my goal, but if you don't trust what I'm telling you, that's perfectly fine. I have a degree in biology. I'm perfectly fine. That's about it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Jayton Miller: Definitely. Whenever it comes to goals around the new year, especially whenever it comes to physical goals, it's usually revolved around body composition of some sort. People usually want to lose weight or gain muscle. Can you kind of give us the differentiating factors of weight loss versus fat loss and maybe some of the myths that are around those things? Tyler Woodward: The first step in any body re-composition goal is, really, to decide whether or not you want to lose weight and fat or gain muscle and gain weight. The two are not synonymous and they're going to go together for the most part. A lot of times. Especially fat loss and weight loss. But the difference really is in terms of energy. It's being in a calorie deficit. Our metabolism is a sum of your chemical reaction at the end of the day. Let's say I burn about 2500 calories in the day. That is my maintenance calories. If I want to lose weight, I need to be consuming less calories than I'm burning on daily basis so that my body has less energy than it's using. So, we need to pull from... Typically, it's going to go into fat stores, fat cells. That's the body's perfect method to pull... to get energy from. Multi gains, a little bit different. Because if you eat in a calorie surplus... which is obviously more energy than your maintenance, so let's say 2,600 calories for me... you're not necessarily going to gain muscle unless you're producing some sort of stimulus in those muscles, which we get from some form of resistance training. Jayton Miller: Definitely. Whenever it comes to the difference between weight loss and fat loss specifically, you want to make sure that you retain as much as possible as much muscle as possible, correct? Tyler Woodward: Correct. And that's really... The same principle is going to apply for both. The current research has shown about 0.82 grams per pound of body weight. Some say lean body weight, which is a little bit less, but I think 0.82 pounds per body weight. I'm 200 pounds. 0.82 is going to be about 165 grams of protein daily. That will ensure that I'm going to keep as much muscle as possible or most of my muscle when in deficit. And I think... With muscle loss, when you're in a calorie deficit, when you're trying to lose weight, it's probably over-hyped and people worry about a little too much. As long as you're getting adequate protein, your body does not want to take it from the muscle. It's typically going to come from fat or [inaudible 00:06:16]. Would you agree, Jayton? Jayton Miller: Yeah, I would agree. A long as the calorie deficit is not too big. Because if you're going extremely aggressive in that calorie deficit, then I do see that there is a high affinity for the protein... the amino acids within the muscles to go through... what is it... like gluconeogenesis. Tyler Woodward: Yeah. I believe so. Jayton Miller: So, I would just say... Just make sure it's not too aggressive. Take a moderate, balanced approach for sure. Tyler Woodward: And that's just going to help in general. I mean, just sticking to it long-term. Weight loss in general. And even weight gain. They're long-term things. It's not going to happen overnight. You can definitely take a more aggressive approach sometimes if you want to do it fast, but obviously it's going to have those consequences where you might lose muscle. You're probably not having any fun because you're only eating 1500 calories a day. If you want to do that, that's on you. It's all about balance, right? Between what you want to do in life and what you want to do with your physical goals. Jayton Miller: If somebody is in the position to here they could either go down the route of gaining muscle or go down the route of losing fat, which one do you typically steer towards most often? Tyler Woodward: I'm probably going to say gain muscle. If you're that skinny fat physique... and I've definitely been there. I 100% can tell you, I went for weight loss. I wanted to be ripped. When I get out there, no one cares when you're a hundred... I was probably what? 155, 165 pounds. Six foot tall. Yeah, I had a six pack. My arms are twigs. It doesn't really look good. It just looks like you're a skinny kid that has a six pack. So, I would always push towards gaining muscle. If you personally feel like you have a good amount of fat to lose and that's where you're more self-conscious, then definitely go for fat loss. When you're gaining muscle and you're in that caloric surplus, you're going to gain some fat. That's just a reality. You can't gain all muscle. It would great if you could. The smaller your surplus, the more muscle you gain relative to fat, how long you extenuate it, but if you're really insecure about the fat, then by all means, go ahead and lose the fat. You can always gain muscle later. Tyler Woodward: We can take the approach whether to go for fat loss or weight loss or go for muscle gain and weight gain. It doesn't mean that we can't gain muscle while losing fat, but it's not our target. We need to have one priority. Like what I said in the article. Maintenance is great and it's probably where we want to shoot for optimal health, being at your maintenance calories consistently and being pretty much in balance with your body, but it's the least efficient way to make long-term changes. You can gain muscle and you can lose fat while at maintenance, but it's going to be the slowest and least... Yeah, the slowest route way to do so. Least efficient. Jayton Miller: Yeah, definitely. I completely agree. I would also say that if somebody is metabolically compromised... like if they have extremely low thyroid function or, in general, they're just relatively stressed out... try to go with a maintenance phase and just increase your activity on a daily basis a little bit. Specifically whenever it comes to walking because I think that allows for the least amount of stress to happen on the body while also allowing you to take steps towards your goal. So, if you're struggling with something like that, I would definitely recommend not dropping the calories too low, make sure that you're fueling your body properly, making sure that you're getting all the correct micronutrients in that you need, get a good balance of macronutrients in, and then just up that activity level on a daily basis with getting more steps and walking and good sunshine and all that good stuff. Tyler Woodward: Yeah, for sure. Now, I've actually heard coach [inaudible 00:09:54]. He's talked about this briefly. He talked about... One of the best things you can do before trying to lose weight is to make sure you're in that hormonal balance, but you don't have any micronutrient deficiencies. That's really the only way you can increase your metabolism without exercising more. Because that's [inaudible 00:10:09] more calories. So, if you have a micronutrient deficiency, your metabolism is lacking certain ingredients and therefore can't do those chemical reactions. So you're going to increase your metabolism, increase the number of calories you burn. That's just gonna make that loss easier. The maintenance phase can definitely be great, too. And, honestly, a maintenance phase just really comes down... Like I said, it comes down to the calories, right? Your caloric intake. Either getting more calories than you're eating, or burning, or less. A maintenance phase just to see where you're at. See how many calories you're at. A practice run where you're not emotionally attached to losing weight is probably a good thing for almost anyone. Where you don't really care what the scale is saying or what you look like in the mirror, but you're just learning about yourself a little bit. Jayton Miller: Yeah, definitely. I would definitely say that the times that I've had the most success whenever it comes to nutrition and getting to know my body and running these different experiments was times where I didn't step on the scale for months at a time and I really didn't care what I looked like in the mirror. It wasn't a priority of mine. It wasn't something that really mattered to my day-to-day life, so I completely ignored it. Because of that, my health was able to basically keep up with where I was going, which was really nice. There was one point when I was eating anywhere from 3500 to 4000 calories a day and I didn't gain an ounce of weight. Not an ounce the entire time. Tyler Woodward: That's crazy. Jayton Miller: I wasn't even getting 10000 steps a day. I was getting maybe like 5000 steps a day and working out four times a week. Tyler Woodward: My story is kind of the opposite. I was always this really skinny kid and I wanted to be ripped and shredded. And then I started pledging. Basically, I started stress eating. The first week, I lost like 10 pounds. Didn't eat anything. I don't recommend this in any way, but it basically helped me to get over my mental body issues. Because I was afraid to gain weight. Because I loved having that six pack. Even though, like I said, it didn't really look it. Just because of this, I gained so much more muscle. Like I said, being in a caloric surplus is so pivotal to efficient muscle growth. Tyler Woodward: But back to the story. First week, probably lost like 10 pounds. Just didn't eat. Was so stressed out. Running all over the place on campus. Second week was like, all right, I need to start eating. I would just run to the dining hall every chance I could. Just stuffed in the most cookies I could in my face. Put a bunch of stuff in my face for the rest of the five weeks. Ended up 190. Obviously, I was an egotistical freshman. [inaudible 00:12:30] huge, but I was really just fat and hadn't really been lifting all semester because I was pledging. From that point on, though, I was like, all right. I do need to lose this weight. Obviously, I don't really look good. It especially goes to my face, which drives me absolutely nuts. But from that point on, I realized the value of a caloric surplus. Tyler Woodward: Like I said, you can gain muscle and lose fat and maintenance, but when you are supplying your body with that extra energy and then you're producing the stimulus in the gym, it has the extra energy to allocate towards muscle growth. That is so pivotal if you want to gain muscle efficiently. If you don't care, then by all means. There's no reason to rush it. There's no reason to be in a surplus, honestly. But if you want to gain muscle fast and efficiently, the way to do it is being in a surplus. Especially after you're a beginner. It's pretty much impossible to gain muscle. Jayton Miller: Yeah, I completely agree. I also think that... In my opinion, if you're going for performance and you're looking for the best possible results whenever it comes to lifting weights and being to being able to adequately perform, get a lot of those extra calories from carbohydrates. It's going to make a huge difference. Carbohydrates are also protein sparing, so you can get away with a little less protein if you want to. Because it frees up those amino acids to get to the muscle. Tyler Woodward: Yeah, that's awesome. Also, when you think about... One of the main mechanisms for muscle growth is sarcoplasmic hypertrophy, which is like cellular swelling, which is really just more glucose and then more water being [inaudible 00:13:57]. So, you're just directly... and glycogen as well. You're really just supplying your body with more fuel. Jayton Miller: Heck yeah. Definitely. Tyler Woodward: And carbs just make you feel great. Jayton Miller: Yeah. What are some of the myths that you've heard surrounding fat loss specifically? For me, it's always this supplement's gonna make you burn this many pounds of fat off of your body or you can just eat this one simple food and all the fat is just going to melt off your body. What are some of the things that you've heard? Tyler Woodward: Those are definitely all true. For sure. No. My favorite thing is... James Smith talks about this all the time. He doesn't say this specifically, but exercise... and I say this in the article. Exercise and weight loss are correlated, not causated. No matter how much you exercise, if you are not in a caloric deficit, you will not lose weight. There's no fat burning exercises. There's no ways to really... or get fat loss to a specific area of the body. Like I said, people that exercise are more likely to lose weight and are more likely to be healthier, but that's also... That's a mental thing too, right? They're more likely to make conscious decisions that are better for their health in general. But you do not need to exercise to lose weight. There's no fat burn exercises are special. The same thing with fat burning shakes, fat burning supplements, and even the keto diet. Tyler Woodward: We talk about this a lot in the thermo diet program. There's two main metabolisms. There's the glucose metabolism, which we say is our optimal or, I'd say, primary metabolism, and then the fatty acid metabolism, which is like the backup metabolism. So, these supplements, they can work in a sense... and let's say they do work... to burn more fat. They change your body to use more of the lipid metabolism. But the problem with this is that if you are not in a caloric deficit and then use all these fat burning supplements... or let's say the keto diet or whatever you want to say... and you are not a caloric deficit, you're just going to replace the fat that you just burned with the fat that you just ate. As we know, the lipid metabolism, the fatty acid metabolism, also has a number of, let's say, suboptimal side effects that... You're going to be [inaudible 00:16:04] more stress and all of that stuff. So, in general, I'm going to favor glucose metabolism just because it's more efficient. You get more energy from it. Less harmful to the body. I mean, we need the fatty acid metabolism as well at the end. When you're in that caloric deficit, if you didn't have that fatty acid metabolism, you would never [inaudible 00:16:20] Jayton Miller: Absolutely. Yeah, for sure. I completely agree. I would also say that if you are freeing up or mobilizing fatty acids in your body while you're also in a calorie surplus, that is one of the most... I would say it's one of the best ways to create insulin resistance if that's something that can happen via the Randle cycle because there's going to be more free fatty acids in the blood to compete with the glucose to get into the cell. So, that's something that... Just use glucose. I mean, that's all there is to it. Tyler Woodward: Yeah, that makes sense. That's really interesting to think about. I mean, I am not honestly... I need to do some more research on insulin resistance and insulin sensitivity, but a lot of it has to do with how your body processes carbs and sugars. And obviously fats. Like, the more fats that are in the bloodstream, it's going to be competing with the insulin and carbs [inaudible 00:17:14] Jayton Miller: Yeah, definitely. So, whenever it comes to gaining muscle specifically, what do you see that is optimal? And then what do you see as efficient? Tyler Woodward: Okay, so... and this comes to health in general, too. There are times that we're chasing optimal, right? We want something that's basically perfect. And efficient, in general, in muscle building is going to be more optimal in general. The way muscles work, how they contract, basically when... The bicep is a really good example. One joint is getting closer to the other. As the two joints get closer together, it becomes shorter, the muscle, and that is when your muscle is the weakest. In that fully shortened position. Whenever you flex a muscle, you're putting it in pretty much fully shortened position. And then, in the mid range, when your bicep is like 90 degrees, you're going to be strongest. You're going to be a little bit weaker in the length and range when you're stretching the arm, but not nearly as much as in the shortened range. The more we can align an exercise profile... so like where the exercise is difficult... with how our arm or how our muscle works, the better... the more efficient that exercise will be. Tyler Woodward: So, we can produce a lot more stimulus by forming exercises that align with that. One example I like to give is the dumbbell lateral raise. The dumbbell lateral raise is a very inefficient exercise for hypertrophy by itself. Because it taxes only the top portion of the movement. The shortened position, right? At the top of the movement of the dumbbell lateral raise, it is the hardest because your arms are now farthest apart from your body. So, you're now doubling down. You're taxing the weakest portion of the muscle and it's with the hardest portion of the exercise. But I like to bring out... [inaudible 00:19:06] very common question. Partial range of motion versus full range of motion. Tyler Woodward: So, this inefficient exercise, which I just took, the dumbbell lateral raise... Let's say I divide it into thirds. I have the top third, the middle third, and bottom third. If I take the lightest dumbbell I'm going to do... let's say the normal 10 pounds, 15 pounds, whatever you do for a lateral raise... and I stick to that top third. And then when I can't do any more reps, I grab the twenties and I go to the middle third, which is now... I'm going to be a little bit stronger and there's a little bit less torque because your arms a little bit closer. So, I'm able to do more reps. Then, I go to the bottom third, grab the 20 to the 30s. Even though I'm not moving... I only move my arm probably a couple of inches, I've now tripled the amount of stimulus that I placed in the muscle. I still don't think the dumbbell lateral raise, even if you do that, is the best option, but it's going to be way better than just doing the 15 pounds because you're not taxing half of the range of motion. If we want to grow muscle, you want to tax as much in the range of motion as possible. Jayton Miller: One of the things that I like to think about whenever it comes to that is the stimulus to fatigue ratio that Mike Isreatel talks about. What can you get the most stimulus out of with the least amount of fatigue so you can come back to the gym quicker and more often? So you can create that muscle protein synthesis... trigger that muscle protein synthesis as often as possible. Something like the deadlift is going to be very, very fatiguing, but it's not going to create much targeted stimulus to a certain muscle, whereas if you do a bicep curl or leg raises for the abs or something like that, it's not going to be that fatiguing, but it's going to be high in the stimulus that it creates for that muscle. Tyler Woodward: That's a very good point to answer... You've probably heard the saying. Muscles are slave to positions. That's true in an aspect, but I would really say muscles are slaves to biomechanics. The muscle that is most... in the best position to contract or to operate is going to. If I do a bicep curl all the way up top, in the short position, and I just hold it here... I can take a dumbbell, sure. If I [inaudible 00:21:09], that's great and it will work. But if I have a dumbbell right here, I'm really just doing a shoulder isometric. Even though my bicep is the one moving. So, that's an interesting point. And the same thing I talk about a little bit is the compound or isolation exercises or free weights [inaudible 00:21:26] or calisthenics. Like I said, it's really going to come down to your intent. None of them are inherently better than the other. A compound lift, as you said, is very fatiguing and... I think a lot of compound lifts are more fatiguing because the balance aspect. There's so much stabilization required. But if your limiting factor, let's say on the bench press, is your... I don't know... your triceps or your rear delts for some reason, your lats, which [inaudible 00:21:50] that's another point, then you're not going to be able to maximize the stimulus place on your chest. That's because it's not the one failing. Jayton Miller: Yeah, definitely. Yeah. I would say that you should just... You just have to prioritize what your goal is. If your goal is strength, then these high stimulus exercises are going to be completely fine because that's what you need to train in order to get strong, but if you're looking for optimal for hypertrophy specifically, whenever you're looking to gain muscle, then I would definitely say that... Find the highest amount of stimulus for the least amount of fatigue that you can. Tyler Woodward: 100%. That's also going to be thing... I would consider... Most strength trainers are strength athletes, right? Power lifters don't necessarily want to be strong. They want to be strong within squat, bench, and deadlift if that is their goal. They don't necessarily... It doesn't matter how much they can bicep curl or... I don't know... leg raise or calf raise. It doesn't really matter. And it's going to be very different is your goal is to chase a position. To be optimal in that position. I gave the example in the article. When have you ever seen an athlete do a quarter squat in a game? I mean, sorry. An ass to grass squat. No athlete is getting in the athletic position and going ass to grass. So, I don't think the quarter squat is a good move for muscle growth or, really, strength, but it might be a great move for becoming more efficient in that position. Just practicing that and getting that neurological response. Let's say you might be able to squat 315. He might be able to quarter squat 500 pounds. If he doesn't practice that, he might never realize his full capacity. It really comes down to intent. All the time. Like I said, it's really not black... It's hard. We like to paint it as black and white, but it's really... It's pretty complicated sometimes. Jayton Miller: It is. Definitely. So, what are some common nutrition myths that you usually see all over during the new year? Tyler Woodward: My favorite has got to be that all calories are not created equal. I saw this post... Someone posted on Instagram that said calories don't even enter cellular respiration, which is the process which glucose gets broken down, your glucose metabolism... which is true. They don't enter. But glucose has a certain number of calories. ATP, which is the end product, has a certain number of calories. Saying all calories are not created equal is like saying a mile... If you and I both run a mile, if yours is all uphill and mine is all downhill, we still ran a mile, correct? It's a unit of measurement. When you're talking about the composition of those calories, that's a very different story, but when I tell you that these cheeseburger has 1000 calories and this bag of kale has 1000 calories, the amount of energy... basically. I'm not going to get into the thermogenic effect of food. It's a little complicated. It basically is the exact same amount of energy used for your body. Tyler Woodward: Like I said, when it comes down to calorie deficit, if you want to sit on your couch and eat Cheetos all day, as long as you are burning more energy than you are consuming, you will lose weight. Will you feel good? Absolutely not. But it's a numbers game. That's a big one. And I think... The whole idea of... I was yelling at my mom last night for it. She was like, "Oh, well, those athletes, they're not drinking or eating fatty foods." I was like, "Mom, fat... It just has a number of calories. You need a portion of fat." Fats don't make you fat. Carbs don't make you fat. Protein doesn't make you fat. Alcohol doesn't make you fat. It's just any of those in excess will put you in a caloric surplus, which can lead to fat gain. Just the number game, I think people just don't emphasize enough. Jayton Miller: I also think that people just want to be told what to do. They don't want to have to keep up with something. So, whenever it comes down to putting in the work to track your calories, actually look at what you're eating and stuff like that, a lot of people are very hesitant about it because it requires effort and it requires work. That's really what all of this comes down to. There are no shortcuts. If there was one, we would have found it by now and we would be telling it to y'all right now. Because there's no reason to keep it to yourself, number one. And then, number two, it's like... I mean, it just doesn't exist. There's not any shortcuts. Work and effort are going to get you to where you want to go. Tyler Woodward: Yeah, and that's why I love writing these principle based articles. That allows you, the reader, to debate for themselves what they believe in. When they see a post, they can make those educated decisions thereafter. I mean, if those fat burner supplements worked, we would be selling a lot of them and everyone would be skinny and ripped. The same thing with those weight gainer protein shakes. You need to consume a certain amount of protein every day. If you get that from a protein shake or you get that from a steak, that's... It's all just a numbers game at the end of the day. The same thing goes for micronutrients, which we don't really talk about as much in the article, but it's so important. That's why the chicken and broccoli diet, although it might help you lose weight because it's really easy to lose weight when you're only eating chicken and broccoli, but you're not going to be getting a lot of micronutrients because you're not eating a very diverse array of food. And so that can eventually contribute to micronutrient deficiencies. Jayton Miller: Absolutely. Plus, all the fiber in the broccoli and the glycogenic properties. You'll just be walking around probably constipated, farting a lot, and you're not helping your thyroid out either with those glycogens. Tyler Woodward: I was thinking about this last night. It's kind of ridiculous that everyone says, oh, you have to eat some more fiber, which is really just... most of the time, it's just from plants and the cellulose that we can't break down. They say, "Oh, you have to eat some more fiber to poop," so you're just literally eating stuff that pretty much... I mean, cellulose can't get broken down. Correct me if I'm wrong. Because we don't have that enzyme, so it just goes in one end and literally comes out the other end. For the most part. It's just kind of ridiculous to think about. It's all about perspective. Jayton Miller: Plus, if you're constipated, adding fiber to your diet is going to add bulk to the stool. You're just bulking up the waste even more inside of your digestive tract, so you're just worsening the issue in most cases. So, that is not good. And then whenever you have too much fiber, things like SHBG and aromatase tend to go through the roof, which is going to be antagonistic to protective hormones in most cases. Tyler Woodward: That makes a lot of sense. Again, it really just comes down to being in balance. Having the... I always say the yin and yang of your body. The homeostasis. If you feed your body exactly what it wants at the right times, then it's going to operate as efficiently as possible. Really, [inaudible 00:28:53] any time, whether or not you're in balance, your body is going to try to operate as efficiently as possible. Sometimes you just don't supply the correct ingredients. Jayton Miller: Yeah, exactly. I would say that would definitely be something to differentiate is what your body wants and what your mind is telling you that you want. That also requires a little bit of self-awareness to know the difference there, too. Tyler Woodward: Which brings us to a great point. Cheat meals and cheat days. These things kind of drive me absolutely nuts because the whole idea... the whole premise that you can basically delete a day, you can stuff whatever you want in your face and the calories don't matter, it's just not true. You can easily eat in a cheat day enough calories to completely pull you out of a calorie deficit for the week or for the month. That fully ruins the point. Why would you suffer through those calorie deficit? Because realistically, it's not fun. I mean, you can make it as easy as possible if you really plan it out, but food is awesome. I'd love to eat more. And weight loss stinks. If you just went and eat 3000 calories in that... or let's say 5000 calories in that one cheat day, you just ruined all that progress. Tyler Woodward: So, instead, do a plan refeed or a diet break. Put the things you want, the treats, the alcohol, whatever. Plan it into your diet and count for it in those calories. You can eat whatever you want when you're dieting. Obviously, you probably don't want to eat chocolate cake every day because it's going to be really hard to maintain a calorie deficit. But if you love chocolate cake more than anything and that mentally gives you that satisfaction, then by all means, program it in. Program in that ice cream. Whatever it be. Maybe you have a smaller portion. Maybe you don't. It's really up to you. Especially refeeds... and you were talking about that a little bit... can be great for your metabolism as well. Getting those nutrients back in the system. Jayton Miller: Absolutely. Yeah. I 100% believe that whenever you implement refeeds into your dieting that it is going to allow you to have more metabolic resiliency. You're not going to take as much as a toll on your metabolism during that time whenever you do incorporate those refeeds. Tyler Woodward: Yeah. Even if you want to have basically a cheat day, really just recognize the damage you're doing. It's not free. Or just say, you know what? I have been dieting for the last two months. I need to let loose a little bit and [inaudible 00:31:11] at the bar. That's perfectly fine. But just recognize that it has a cost. Like everything we do. Jayton Miller: Yeah, absolutely. 100%. Losing weight freaking sucks. Being in a calorie deficit sucks so much. I don't care what anybody says. For me personally, in my subjective experience, losing weight absolutely is the worst thing on earth. But if it's something that you're doing and it's something that you need to do for your health or for your own perspective of yourself, or if it's just a challenge that you want to overcome, do it in a way that is going to be most friendly to you and avoid all of the BS that is out there. There's just so much bad information that's out there that you have to ignore. Tyler Woodward: It really becomes hard. Especially on a social thing. I make sure one of the big things I do when I'm trying to lose weight and a calorie deficit is I do not drink... what's the word... alcohol for pleasure. If I'm going out, we're all drinking, that's when I'll do it, but I won't just have a beer on a Tuesday, Monday night because, to me, that's a waste of calories. If I was in a surplus, I think alcohol can kind of be your best friend because it's free, cheap calories. I don't really do sodas or anything like that. I don't really drink a lot of high calorie drinks. But having a beer at night or... Well, not with thermo. But having a cider at night, it can be... No? Cider's thermo. Jayton Miller: Cider's thermo, but you have to watch out for that beer. None of that. Tyler Woodward: Watch out for the beer. That's not going to help a calorie deficit. But that's personally my rule. I personally love chocolate and ice cream, so I pretty much have a cookie almost every night, whether or not I'm in a calorie deficit or calorie surplus... or some kind of ice cream. I actually perfected a thermo Frappucino recipe last night. Keep an eye out for that in the Facebook group. Jayton Miller: Heck yeah. I'm actually looking forward to that. I have Haagen-Dazs pretty much every single day, though, at this point, but I'm also not trying to lose weight. So, if you're going for a calorie deficit, that's definitely not what you want to do. I would say... Some of the tips that I've used for fat loss in the past is utilize the food that has the highest amount of volume for the least amount of calories. For the amount of volume that you're going to get, try and get as little calories as you can. For instance, watermelon is a really good example. That is very volumous, but it's relatively low in calories. Tyler Woodward: I think that might be the only reason I've been able to lose weight. I just pound watermelon. I love a bowl of watermelon. You can get a huge bowl of watermelon. It's like 300 calories and just fills you right up. Jayton Miller: Yeah, absolutely. Let's see. What's another one that I've done? Coffee helps a lot. Coffee actually really helps blunt hunger. Let's see. What are some... Berries are another good one. Shrimp is another good one. What are some of the things that you've utilized? Tyler Woodward: Definitely watermelon. I've been really getting into potatoes. Not that they're the least calorically dense, but I feel like they're very filling. Especially if you have a little bit on the side with your dinner. I find ice cream... Even though it's not filling probably, I find it very mentally satisfying. Honestly... and we talked about this a little bit in the article. Intermittent fasting, although you should be in a good health place metabolically to do it, I think proportioning your calories towards a later portion of the day, even if it's just four hours and then you break it with a coffee or a smoothie or whatever, has helped me a lot and just made weight loss easier. Because you have the option to eat a huge meal and eat some ice cream at night, which you might not otherwise. Jayton Miller: Yeah, for sure. What about tips to gain weight? What are some of the most effective ways, from a nutritional standpoint that you've seen, to gain muscle specifically? Tyler Woodward: Probably the same thing. You obviously want to make sure you get enough protein. That's going to be 0.82. But if you want, you can go a little bit higher if you're trying to gain weight. Plus, you have the [inaudible 00:35:19] surplus. Alcohol can be friendly. It also might have some impact on muscle protein synthesis, so you have to be careful with that. If you're going to drink alcohol, try and lift as early as possible. In the morning. Again, it really comes down to just eating calories. I would definitely not fast and try to be in a surplus. I'd probably start my meal off with eggs and a calorie dense meal. Definitely have lunch. Maybe try to have a snack or two throughout the day. And a big dinner. And dessert, for sure. Definitely get your sweet tooth on. Ice cream. Cookies if you want. What else do you like? Jayton Miller: The ice cream is the biggest thing for me. Let's see. Yeah, I don't really have too much of a sweet tooth outside of ice cream. I do enjoy cookies, but I usually stay away from them because of the gluten and the polyunsaturated fatty acids. And they're usually not that good in general. So, yeah. I'm still on the lookout for easily accessible thermo cookies. So, if anyone's found those, please let me know. Tyler Woodward: Please let us know. That would be a game changer for the world. Hopefully, this Frappucino will be a slight game changer for some of us. But I think more thermo foods... I think we'll see that a lot in the next coming years. I mean, I don't see why... I keep joking about I'm going to make a thermo bagel and pizza place. It's just going to be healthy bagels and pizza and I'm going to be a billionaire. If I can figure it out. Jayton Miller: Sourdough. That's the way to go. Sourdough bagels. Tyler Woodward: Exactly. I mean, it's definitely possible. Right now, is it plausible? Maybe. We'll see. Hopefully, in the next coming years, as the thermo diet gets more and more popular, we'll see some chefs step up. Jayton Miller: Oh yeah. For sure. What are some tips that you have for people to actually set these goals? They have all this information that we just laid out for them. Do you have some examples of goals that they could be setting and ways to actually set those goals? Tyler Woodward: I talked a little bit about this in the article and I honestly kind of think numerical based goals are overrated. Especially for weight loss and fat loss. Let's say I want to lose 10 pounds. How do I know when I'm going to look like 10 pounds? Is that enough? Is that too much? Same thing with muscle gain. Those are perfectly fine goals to set. If you've never been goal setting, numerical based goals are by far the easiest to do. Because you can just look at your scale and check it off the list. That's great. But, instead, what I would really tell you to focus on is... I say this in the article. As cliché as it is, life is about the journey, not the destination. Maybe it's time to stop focusing on the endgame and instead focus on the steps that will bring us there. Maybe it's time to focus on the day to day actions. Tyler Woodward: Like I said, you're going to lose sometimes. Some days, you're going to eat in a caloric surplus no matter how much your day sucked. Those days that you're eating in a caloric surplus when you're trying to lose weight will probably be the worst days for you. It's mentally taxing. But it happens. It's a long journey. It's a war. As long as you're winning more days than you're not, you're going to lose weight over time. It's about chasing those little steps that add up to those big end results. I like to say this and I've really been focusing on this in the gym. It's not about the big picture. Yeah, it is, but it's the sum of those little movements that end up in the big picture. It's about focusing on that one rep within that set each single time that you're doing it. Those little accumulations of those small things are going to add up to those big pictures. Tyler Woodward: I read an awesome book. It was by Joshua Waitzkin. I forget what the book is called. Oh, The Art of Learning. He talks about the difference between me and you and LeBron James. Obviously, LeBron James is probably the best basketball player of all time. Or MJ. I'm not going to get into that right now. I can shoot a basketball. I can't dunk. One day, I'm going to be able to. [inaudible 00:39:21] I can dribble. I can do all this. The difference... I probably have close... Let's say I have 75% of the form that he does. Which is [inaudible 00:39:30] It's those little things that he doesn't have to think about because his form is perfect. Pretty much everything that he does. Because he has perfected those little things to a tee. Now, he doesn't have to think about those. He can look all around him and absorb so much more information at such a faster rate that he's seeing the game at a different level than we all are. It's like he's watching it in slow motion. It's the same thing. It's those little things that add up to big changes in the long run. Jayton Miller: Absolutely. For sure. I completely agree. I'd also say... I think one of the things that holds people back from getting to a lot of the goals that they set for themselves is worrying about external factors. Whether it is other people or the circumstances that you're in. You really only have control over yourself, how you react, and the things that you do. And so take ownership of those, take responsibility for those, and then move forward in a way that is productive to yourself. Don't worry about anybody else or what might happen tomorrow. Worry about right now and do the thing that is going to allow you to be most progressive and successful right now. Tyler Woodward: 100%. Hypertrophy coach, Joe Bennett, talks about this a little bit. He says if you're a single father and you have two infants at home that aren't sleeping through the night, your priority probably should not be muscle growth realistically or fat loss. You have two kids and you need to take care of them. That doesn't mean you let your goals slip under the table or you push them away, but it means you do as much as you can right now to accomplish those. If that's only going to gym twice a week or once a week, at least you're doing that and you're putting in the effort. What you can allocate at this time. It's all going to be... Like I said, it's all about intent. It's about perspective. It's all about context. How we fare in a different situation is how we make life. And that is life, right? Just making the best of your situation. Jayton Miller: Definitely. 100%. Well, Tyler, I'm going to go ahead and wrap it up here. Where can people find you? Connect with you? Talk to you? Tyler Woodward: You can find me on the Thermo Diet Facebook group or on Instagram @TylerWoodward__. Wood as a W-O-O-D-W-A-R-D. That's about it. Thanks for having me, Jayton. Jayton Miller: Heck yeah. For those of you listening, make sure to hit him up. He's in there all the time. Even if it's 1:00 in the morning, feel free to send him a message. I'm sure he'll message you back. But yeah. We touched on a lot of topics during this episode. I hope you find it helpful and we'll talk to y'all next time. Jayton Miller: Thanks for listening to the podcast. If you haven't already, make sure to hit the like button, subscribe, and leave a comment down below if you want us to cover a different topic.
In this episode of The Thermo Diet Podcast Jayton Miller sits down with Theresa Piela. In this episode, Jayton and Theresa talk about a wide variety of topics concerning the mental aspects of healing the body, how the gut impacts our thoughts, Theresa's journey towards healing her body, eft tapping, and more! Check it out and let us know what you think! Facebook Group and Fanpage - Thermo Diet Community Group ( https://www.facebook.com/groups/16721... ) - Thermo Diet Fan Page ( https://www.facebook.com/thermodiet/ ) Youtube Channels: - Christopher Walker ( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTA1... ) - UMZU Health ( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2IE... ) Instagram: - @_christopherwalker ( https://www.instagram.com/_christophe... ) - @researchcowboy ( https://www.instagram.com/researchcow... ) Theresa's Website - https://www.livingrootswellness.com/ https://umzu.com/ Full Transcript: Jayton Miller: Welcome back to The Thermo Diet Podcast. I'm your host, Jayton Miller, and today I have a guest on the podcast by the name of Theresa Piela, otherwise known as Living Roots Wellness on Instagram. She has a phenomenal story and we go into some of the details around the mental aspects of healing and some of the challenges that she's faced and some of the things that she's learned along the way of healing herself. So I'm really excited for you guys to be able to listen to this podcast. There's a ton of golden information inside of this podcast. So without further ado, let's get into it. Jayton Miller: How's it going today, guys? I'm here with Theresa ... Okay. Can you say your last name for me? Theresa Piela: Piela. Jayton Miller: Piela. How are you doing today? Theresa Piela: I'm doing well. How are you? Jayton Miller: I'm doing very well. So for the listeners out there, do you mind kind of telling them your background and how you came into this area of health? Theresa Piela: Yeah, so I guess I didn't realize I was even in the health field because I was so in the mud of trying to figure out what was going on with my own body, and for so long, I thought it was normal. I remember feeling pretty off, as early as second grade was when I started to feel like something wasn't right. But I assumed that everyone kind of felt that weight of fatigue and just low energy, low moods, and it kind of snowballed from there. The older I got, the worse I fell and I kind of just kept going, like most people. They just kind of put their head down and I was just focusing on school and kind of surviving. I think, yeah, just over the years it really started to worsen, and what I thought was my first way out was getting into things like Prozac to help with my depression and my anxiety, and that was the only option that was presented to me from my Western doctors and kind of blindly fell into that. Theresa Piela: That was, I think, kind of the first challenge on this journey where I blindly took something and then started to feel even more off and started to feel not myself, kind of numb. All of a sudden I was sleeping well and I was feeling a little bit better, but not entirely alive and things from there got a little bit more intense. In college I had a stress fracture, that was interesting. Started to get testing, found out I had severe osteoporosis and all sorts of other issues. Then that opened up the door to testing in general, and luckily I had a really supportive mom that had already been starting to dive into the world of chronic illness because there had been some Lyme cases in my family. That's when that portal opened up. We started doing Lyme testing. I came with a bunch of infections like Bartonella, Babesia, Chlamydia pneumoniae, I think, is what they call it, all sorts of tick infections, parasites, the classic heavy metal, really high levels of heavy metal, mold in the urine, the classic hypothyroidism. Theresa Piela: All of these crazy things. Food sensitivities to everything, and when I started collecting those binders of lab tests and, again, feeling my body almost breaking down, it was at this point where it wasn't a matter of just pushing through it anymore. I was barely able to make it through the day because my energy was just non-existent and my food reactions had become so intense. So I had weaned off of the Prozac ... and cut me off at any point. I find myself not really telling the story often, so it's not as succinct as I'd like, but anyways. I weaned myself off of Prozac and that's when I stopped sleeping. As you know, sleep is where the body repairs, you rejuvenate, all those wonderful systems kick back in and kind of enter this state of delirium. But that's when I started really diving into the research myself. So both a curse and a blessing, I guess. From that time, really, it's been kind of trying to figure out what's been leading to what, and I've spent many, many years going down rabbit holes where I thought I'd find the answer. Theresa Piela: First I thought it was ... it's a Lyme, great. We'll kill the Lyme with really high dose antibiotics and all of these antiparasitic drugs and dah, dah, dah, dah. At a certain point, the body breaks down even more so then I'd take another route and say, "Oh yes, it's the candida and it's the mold. Let's do some culation, let's do some sauna therapy, let's take care of that." So long story short, it really got to a sensitive point when I just was getting so, so sick. My body dropped to 79 pounds. I was just emaciated and barely able to function. I would spend the day in the bathtub just kind of surviving, and this is a little graphic, but I had lost complete gut motility. So I would basically spend my entire day doing rounds of enemas just to get the matter out of me that I wasn't assimilating, I wasn't absorbing. And then ... Wow, the Carnivore Diet is what kind of led me to Ray Peat and Danny Roddy's work. Theresa Piela: I met another fellow carnivore that had very similar health issues, kind of hitting a point where the body just started breaking down and Carnivore served as a stabilizing factor for both of us. Then he started telling me a little bit about Danny Roddy's work and Ray Peat, and my sister on the side had also found huge benefit from Kate Darien's work and Ray Peat in general. So I was a little behind in starting to see that as a possibility, because again, I was so reactive to every food. Even when I was just eating beef and egg yolks and butter, I was still having huge histamine reactions to that where I'd kind of have to lay down and be out for the count for the day. But something about the inspiration of Ray's work and starting to realize that I had this kind of invisible community of other people that were starting to sort out their own health journeys, something about that gave me hope. Theresa Piela: I started really focusing more on the brain rewiring aspect, knowing that yeah, my body was breaking down, but what did I have control over of pulling in the stoic wisdom at the same time to really give myself something to latch onto where I didn't take my suffering personally. Yeah, I think it kind of snowballed from there. Just starting to really experiment still, quite sick still, pretty disabled, but slowly crawling out. Yeah, that kind of brings me to now. I, last year, dove into colon hydrotherapy, training to get certified because I really, really think that the function of the gut is so intricately tied with our ability to feel healthy and to have a normal and functioning immune system and everything in between and just our moods in general. So yeah, I really firmly believe in that. Also credit a lot of my life to that simple tool for really helping kind of the sickest cases at least stabilize so they're not completely sick. So hopefully that answered your question in a kind of circular way. Jayton Miller: Definitely. So what was kind of the first high leverage factor that you utilized and then how did that kind of go into the metabolic nutrition and stuff like that? Theresa Piela: Yeah, so the carnivore approach, I think the high protein diet, all of a sudden ... I remember waking up, it was two days in of switching cold turkey to 100% meat. Two days in my brain fog had gone away and the extreme bloating I had been experiencing for the last 12 years of my life started to go down. So that gave me a little kind of spark of inspiration and started to dive more into liver function and how important protein is and just different amino acids and the effect on the body. Honestly, then I started to research the effects of caffeine. Again, I had been told by my doctors and all of my healers and specialists to absolutely stay away from caffeine. It's the devil, it's poisonous. If you have any kind of autoimmune condition or Lyme's disease, anything you could ... Never have this. But Ray's work really opened up the idea to using it as a pro-metabolic tool. Theresa Piela: I think starting to have very, very small micro doses of coffee actually allowed my body to have a leg up and not have such an intense immune reaction and allow my body to actually utilize the glucose as I started to add it back in very, very slowly. Because as I transitioned off of carnivore, I started with small amounts of maple and just ... At first, again, I was having extreme reactions to carbs. My body did not know how to handle it, but coffee really started to help. So that, I think, opened up the portal. I'm trying to think if there ... It felt like an exciting time because all of a sudden I was like, "Whoa, I feel like I'm having a second chance." I started to feel energy come back into this body that had felt so just kind of lifeless. I felt like an empty sock and my world was so sepia tinted because I just, again, did not have ... I wasn't absorbing my nutrition and then the brain kind of shuts down with everything else. Theresa Piela: So from there, I mean, I'd always been into experimenting, but I just kind of started to play around with the different pro metabolic and Ray Peat inspired meals and added in the carrots and I think, as funny as that sounds, the carrots were game-changing. Again, my sister was the first one to bring this up to me and I kind of wrote it off because I didn't really believe something as simple as carrot fibers could be so helpful because I've been trying for years to help my gut. It was ravaged from all the parasites and the treatments and the antibiotics and all these toxic supplements I had been taking. Then lo and behold, adding in the carrots started to normalize my gut functions, that I wasn't just in the bathtub all day, I could suddenly be out and about and start thinking, "Wow, what do I want to do with this life?" Jayton Miller: That's awesome. So one of the things you mentioned is that the cloud kind of went away. Can you kind of elaborate on that and talk about that experience? Theresa Piela: Yeah. I guess anyone that's experienced kind of constipation or brain fog in general, you start to realize that if you're not releasing all this endotoxin, all of the bacterial byproducts, just fermenting food in your gut, if that sits for one, two, three, four, five, six, seven days, you start to feel like a different person. Again, I sort of took that for granted as a kid. I didn't think about my gut health at all, just carried on with the day what I wanted. But as an adult, when my health was really at a sensitive point, when I was having reactions to everything, it felt like I couldn't win. I'd eat something very simple and the next morning wake up with the most intense flu-like reactions, like living in this crazy cloud where I couldn't even think clearly. It literally feels like you're kind of clawing through mashed potatoes and I would always get relief through the enemas or the colonics. Theresa Piela: But again, it didn't feel like a sustainable way to live a life. I didn't want to live in a bathtub. But when I started to regain that gut motility and not have such intense [inaudible 00:12:18] reactions on Carnivore, that again gave me another kind of blossom of hope where I realized, "Wow, okay, yes, this diet is not ideal, but I have evidence that things can improve. I have a stable ground where I can start to research and figure out what are the safest foods I can start to add back in right now while my gut is kind of leaky." Jayton Miller: Definitely. You also mentioned the things that you can control within your mind. Can you kind of go into how that played a role in your healing journey and kind of some of the tools that you utilized? Theresa Piela: Okay. So I think, and maybe you can relate to this and maybe some people listening can relate to this, but when you've been sick for a while, your brain rewires, and part of that is kind of the impact of trauma, where your brain is looking out for you. It doesn't want to experience pain so it almost starts to package up and close off the world, trying to avoid danger. Maybe the brain gets stuck in these loops of thinking about worst case scenarios and how I'll never be healthy, how it's always going to be this way. Again, when you wake up or spend your entire day sick, it's so hard to even imagine a possibility where that isn't the case. So you sort of get stuck in this catch 22 of seeing the world as you are. Theresa Piela: When I realized how intolerable that was to me and that I could start to change my perspective, even the slightest bit, it's almost like I had to think in a pro-metabolic way, even though my body was so sick, just to get out of that learned helplessness. Because so much of that, too, is realizing that, yes, the brain is responding to the toxic body, the body will heal with time, but if you were repeating these same old patterns of thinking and living with that same kind of, "Woe is me, dah, dah, dah, dah, how come everyone else is sick?" My thought patterns were so, of course, toxic, and those completely impact the way we digest and function. Sending off the stress response just with our thoughts, I think is something to really pay attention to. So it was really kind of taking charge of that and realizing, "Wow, I want to enjoy my life. If my body's not going to be healthy, at least I can start to train my brain to think healthy." Jayton Miller: Definitely. What are some of the practices that you implemented in order to kind of break those loops that you had going on? Theresa Piela: Yeah. So one of the first things I started practicing with someone I still work with today was EFT tapping. Again, have you heard of this? Jayton Miller: I've heard of it, but I've never talked to anybody who's actually utilized it. Theresa Piela: Yeah, okay. It's one of my favorite tools and I kind of rolled my eyes at it at first. I'm like, "What? You want me to tap on my head while I say things to myself?" But I think with kind of traumatic loops and dysfunctional thinking, we logically know that it doesn't feel good to feel anxious or to feel depressed or to think in these kind of rigid and dark ways. But the brain can't get out of that if that's all it knows. So when we can kind of sneakily get in there in ways that aren't really utilizing the normal entry points in, more of just any way that you can. It's more of like a sematic approach. That's when I noticed things starting to change. So the tapping and I can tell you more about this after, was, I guess, another one of those sneaky ways to start to challenge these beliefs and these conditionings that we've accumulated over the years. Theresa Piela: Maybe because of our sickness, maybe because of traumatic events in our past, or even just the way that trauma is passed down from generation to generation and find ourselves maybe hypervigilant for a reason that isn't related to our experience. All of those factors. But that's my favorite tool. And then something called DNRs. Have you heard of that? Jayton Miller: No, I have not. Theresa Piela: That inspires a lot of my work too, but it's really, again, honoring the fact that so much of disease is due to the kind of limbic system getting stuck in these faulty pathways where the body might be reacting to things wisely. Because say you had a mold exposure in the past, every time you smell something slightly moldy, your whole nervous system is going to send off alarm bells because it doesn't want you to be in danger. But with any kind of chronic sickness or chronic illness, those patterns really get amplified and they get stuck. So it's more of these tools of shifting the brain to be less reactive and almost teaching the brain that it has an option again. It can choose to suffer and freak out, or it can start to visualize and really imagine different stories and feeds into the neuroscience approach of realizing that the brain doesn't really know the difference between reality and imagination. Theresa Piela: So it's kind of like taking the brain and tricking it ... Yeah, really fooling it into thinking that there's a possibility. Then all of a sudden it realizes, "Whoa, it feels good to feel good. It feels good to think that something good could happen in the future," because you could spend your time planning for the worst and really imagining a future where everything is terrible and we're all just sick and lonely and not doing anything very interesting or, "Wow. What if we're kind of collaborating and having fun and exploring and skiing and spending time with loved ones?" That's a very available story that I think a lot of people who are really sick and disabled at home forget that is a possibility too. Jayton Miller: Definitely. How does that actually work? Theresa Piela: So there's a lot of different techniques within the DNRs or the tapping communities, but I'd say the essence of it is really just reminding the brain to shift its perspective. Noticing those faulty loops of the past that might assume the worst, that might kind of be hypervigilant, that might be down, all of the pathways that ... You can think of the qualities that just don't feel good in life. Say you wake up and you don't feel very energized, a kind of dysfunctional brain might say, "Oh my gosh, it's always going to be this way. I'm not going to have energy to do what I need to do. Oh, I'm supposed to be on a podcast today. How am I going to do this? My life sucks. I've always been sick." Versus, "Oh, okay, great. What can I do to feel better right now? Oh, wow. This caffeine paired with some grass fed milk will really help my thyroid function and then I'll be able to think better and, oh, wow, what a great opportunity to interact with someone new." Theresa Piela: It's sort of subtle, but it really is starting to shift the brain continually over and over and over again until the new default mode is something positive and kind of rooted in the sense of possibility and not in doom and gloom and rigid thinking. Jayton Miller: That's awesome. So it's kind of rooted in the potential that the being has. Theresa Piela: Yes. Even just seeing kind of the black and white of sick versus healthy, when you imagine that healthy state, anything's possible. It's so much about play and spontaneity and interacting with the environment in a way that novelty just fits right in. There's that desire to see, "Wow, what can I experience there?" And that is exactly it. I think in terms of getting out of that really sick state, if the body is going to take the time healing, because sometimes with toxicity and just really chronic issues, that does take time to reverse if we've been living in a really dysfunctional way. But if we can start to really get the brain almost a couple of steps ahead of us, it's like the body wants to follow. It's like, "Wow, I'm thinking that I'm going to be out skiing these mountains. Oh, I better start to rev up the engines on those cells and start to dump all of these gunky toxins out and let the body start to catch up with that." Jayton Miller: Definitely. So in your journey, was that kind of the case where you had to put the mind in a place that was kind of better than your current circumstances? Theresa Piela: Exactly. Yeah, because I was still noticing how almost the majority of my thoughts were so toxic and it wasn't surprising because I had so little energy, especially still in the beginning stages of Carnivore, I felt better, but I knew that wasn't the life I wanted to live. I knew I still had very little energy and I was an athlete when I was younger and being so fatigued that just walking outside was all I could do for the day and seeing 80 year olds on their jogs and young people smiling and laughing, it felt like I was living in this bubble of doom. But it's like I really made that choice where I realized I need ... This is almost the last straw here. I hadn't found any help really with any of the Western medical or even kind of the fringe medical approaches, so this felt like my best option. I had heard of other people that had started to make changes with more of the brain rewiring aspects. So, yeah, it felt like a little nugget of hope that I latched onto and it turned out to be really promising. Jayton Miller: Definitely. Did you notice that with your mind here and your body here, every time that your body kind of took a little bump up, it pushed the mood even further up than what it was? Theresa Piela: Yeah. It's like when you get some evidence that, "Whoa, maybe you do have a little bit of control here and that maybe life can open up and you can start to see those possibilities feel bright and feel beautiful, absolutely." I think it's kind of that catch 22 state where sometimes you just need the smallest bit of ... not false hope, but evidence-based hope that yes, you can heal, these success stories could be you too, and that was part of the game changer for me when I started to really practice that. Notice when I would start to lose hope in my brain and say, "Wait a second, why can't I believe that this is possible for me? Hundreds of other people have healed. I'm nothing too special." Jayton Miller: Definitely. So whenever you are interacting with other people, what are some of the biggest things that you see them struggle with in order to get to that point? Theresa Piela: Yeah. That's a really interesting question. I'm sure you think about this too, but when someone is such a low metabolic state, they are in that catch 22, where they can't even think better than their environment because they are so in it. It's like that fish tank analogy where the fish just knows the water they're in. I think that's where it's helpful to ... When people do really actually hit rock bottom there and they've tried everything and they realize, "Well, I've tried all these rigid healing diets. I've seen all these specialists and I'm still not better. I'm going to take a leap of faith." But I think it's kind of also the willingness to let go of who someone thinks they are. Like, "I have this disorder, I have that. I've always been this way," and stepping into, again, that possibility that, "Huh, maybe I can change." Theresa Piela: Part of the tapping and the brain rewiring that I find so helpful is that it gives the brain a little essence of, "Whoa. I feel like a different person. Interesting. Can I follow that for a second? What would happen if I keep practicing the more energized, more vital, more fertile, more creative version of myself? What will happen if I can sustain that?" And not a bright siding way. We can't pretend that we're healthy and that we can just get on with life when the body is completely toxic, but we can start to imagine and see that evidence start to build on its own. So yeah, really, I think the biggest roadblock is when people are so stuck in who they think they are or the idea that aesthetic is the most important thing. Theresa Piela: I sometimes think that some people will be so overly focused on how they want their body to look and forgetting to listen to what their body actually needs, and not really listening to the cues that, yeah, if your body is really sick, it might be the best option to rest even though your brain wants to keep pushing. That's something that I definitely dealt with as more of a Type A competitive person that liked to do things. I liked the kind of endorphin rush of feeling like I could be out and about adventuring, but letting that go and just saying, "Whoa, okay, my body is dictating a slower speed," and kind of making friends with that. That was a huge, huge paradigm shift for me. Theresa Piela: So I think that can definitely relate to a lot of people that want to kind of hurry up and heal versus, "Okay, let's slow this down. What can we enjoy in this moment? Even if you're stuck in bed all day and disabled, what can we start to enjoy right now? Wow. These sheets are really soft. Whoa. I get to read all my favorite books," and kind of build from there. Jayton Miller: Or listen to your favorite podcast. Theresa Piela: Or listen to your favorite podcasts. Exactly. Even better. Jayton Miller: Have you heard of Eckhart Tolle? Theresa Piela: Oh my goodness. I'm so glad you brought him up. So that was one of the first books that someone gave me back in college. That, again, started to open up my brain a little bit and that was again right when I wasn't sleeping so it did start to imprint in a very curious way. What makes you think of that right now? Jayton Miller: So in The Power of Now he talks about, and within the stoic philosophy as well, they talk about the dis-identification from the egoic mind and being able to step back and observe our mind for what it is and tapping into that present moment. I think that that is very important. Theresa Piela: Yes, and I'm really happy you brought that up too, because when I started to really get to know the nature of my own mind and realizing that I could watch these really dysfunctional doom-based, anxiety-based, panic-based thoughts and say, "Oh wow, the observer of that is actually kind of relaxed and peaceful and doesn't really care what's happening in my life." That opened up this sense of peacefulness and almost a sense of ... sort of a sense of humor with it all. It could be a really terrible day where I was so brain fogged that even finding words felt impossible and just getting to the kitchen to make some coffee and breakfast was like ... that was the triumph of the day. When I could just watch what my brain was doing exactly like Eckhart Tolle mentions, it's almost like it opened up, again, another sense of possibility in the way I could interact and perceive in my world and notice that I could find some fun, even just in my very small world of trying to just get a little bit better. Jayton Miller: Definitely. So whenever you are trying to ... So for me personally, I'm an over analyzer. I overanalyze everything constantly and it helps with a lot of things, but for most things it's not very beneficial. So how do you tend to get out of your mind and back into your body? Theresa Piela: That's so interesting. Well, it depends what I'm over analyzing and where it's taking me. So I can also relate and I think with an overactive brain, if it's going more down the path of anxiety and future forecasting, like, "Oh, this is going to happen. This might happen. I better dah, dah, dah, dah, dah," stopping that, literally just watching those thoughts as if I'm watching a movie of those thoughts, literally watching them stop and finding something in the present moment to come back to. At first, when I was in a very, very dysfunctional state, sometimes it was something as simple as, wow, noticing the texture of the counter and kind of zooming in on some very, very basic detail of life. I think sometimes the breadth is something that's ... It's talked about so much and not in a meditative way, but really bringing that overactive mind and letting it focus on something that's already happening and seeing how much you can expand the awareness of that. Theresa Piela: So it comes back to that brain shifting again and tricking the brain saying, "Whoa, okay, I see what you're doing. Oh, wow. This is a very familiar habit. Oh, yes. The over-analyzing again. Oh, let me use that same kind of hyper-focus of thinking and put it on something else that is either neutral or pleasurable." So also just finding something in nature to start to hyper-focus on. This is something I would notice. I'd be out on my little walks, trying to think about the next step, kind of feeling like, "Wow, my body was shutting down. What am I doing with this life? What is the point of this? What do I need to learn from this?" Those kind of cycles. Then I'd say, "Whoa, stop that. That's not helpful." Literally watching those thoughts stop and refocus on the crows. They became some of my biggest allies in this healing process. Theresa Piela: Just watching the crows and letting myself get so consumed in their funny behavior, picking up trash and flying around with their families and doing sort of goofy things. And using that, again, as a reminder to see the brain's potential that it can sort of get out of control, but we can also use it as a tool. We can harness that and place it somewhere else and let it grow from there, because it doesn't have to be just placing it on something neutral or beautiful. You can say, "Okay, I'm clearly suffering in this over analyzation of whatever topic the brain has decided to be important. What is truly important to me? Wow. My partner is really important to me. I am going to think more about that and kind of let the brain over analyze how wonderful of a person he is," dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. Yeah. That's, I think, the biggest tools I still use daily. Theresa Piela: I mean, it's a never ending process really of realizing ... It's that ceiling analogy you used. It's like you make some progress, you're like, "Whoa, what's next? Oh, I still have this slightly dysfunctional kind of anxiety based loop? Okay. Let me see if I can tweak that and use it in a more productive or peaceful way," whatever feels like it would enhance your experience of being you, being a human. Jayton Miller: Definitely. So were there any kind of external or environmental factors that you noticed kind of elevated your way of thinking or just you took it out and it made a significant impact? Theresa Piela: Yeah. So the sun has always made a huge difference for me. I feel so much better in the sun and now we know why. Wow, it has so many different factors, aside from just the immune boost and the vitamin D, but the body works better with that kind of heat source. It's like, "Your thyroid isn't working well? Great sit in the sun and you'll feel a whole lot better." So that made a big difference, and when I first moved out west to California, I noticed I felt better. It was easier to keep my thoughts in places that felt good with the sunshine, versus classic New England weather, where it's dark and gray and cold and rainy and kind of humid and moist and moldy. Theresa Piela: And also a sense of peace and quiet in nature. Again, huge difference and people always talk about nature therapy and forest healing, but for someone that maybe has a bunch of disorders and diseases and their nervous system is kind of frazzled and fried, it is so beneficial to get out somewhere where stimuli and then the literal noise can soften and letting the body almost calm down by removing something. Theresa Piela: Then I'd say the biggest one that I am so grateful for is moving to high altitude and feeling literally like a different person. I know that air quality back where I was living in California was pretty dismal. Our whole town was on fire so most of the time we were inside with a HEPA filter, but we'd go outside and come back and kind of brain fogged. I was having trouble discerning, "Whoa, what's a symptom and what's being caused by this dismal air quality?" Then when we moved to Colorado, it's like, "Whoa, the world opened up." What I thought were these kind of old, lingering symptoms, maybe a Lyme flare up, something that I didn't really have control over, got so much better. Theresa Piela: So I think if anyone's really, really struggling to heal and they're doing all the brain work, they're doing all the pro-metabolic tools and really changing their lifestyle, if they're still not at a point where the body feels like it's really making progress, that might be something, if they're fortunate enough, to look into. Because I think the high altitude just allows everything to work better. A lot of bacterial infections can't survive at high altitude. It's amazing to me. Mountains are such a gift, Jayton Miller: Definitely. One of the theories that I've had previously about that, because I noticed that, and you'll probably see this in Colorado, is that most of the hobbies that people have outside has to do with reaching a peak of some sort. So whether it's rock climbing or skiing or hiking, they're always trying to get to the highest point of elevation that they can. I think that it has to do with the electromagnetic frequency of the earth and the way that it has the ability to physically pull down the reductive stress hormones in the body. So the actual electrical charge that the stress hormones have, they're in a reductive state and I think that the magnetism of the earth literally begins to pull them down- Theresa Piela: At a faster rate or a more significant force than if we were at sea level? Jayton Miller: I would say so, yeah. Theresa Piela: That's so interesting. I have not thought about that. Wow. Then pairing that with just the ability of the thyroid to work better at higher altitude and then the bacteria not being able to survive and then the carbon dioxide retention, it's like you have these beautiful snowball effects where ... Yeah, and now I'm imagining someone at the top of a peak feeling so grateful, but also just feeling good and of course that has synergy. So yeah, I love that. I want to look more into that. Jayton Miller: Definitely. I would say a good place to kind of take examples from is Tibetan monks or the monks in the Himalayas, because they're always at the peak and you hear stories of them living to 150 years old, just these outstanding numbers. I think that's one of the things that it has to do just because they're relatively stress-free, both from a psychological perspective and a physical perspective. Theresa Piela: Yeah, and that ties back into what we were talking about. If physically your body's under significant stress, start to harness the psychological stress, see if you can kind of smush that and compost it and let the body catch up. It's all about, "Okay, we know the world is stressful, we know our bodies are having to process things that are significant, but if we can lessen that load even the slightest bit, wonderful." Jayton Miller: Definitely. Well, I think that is the extent of the questions that I have. Is there anything else that you'd like to tell the audience? Theresa Piela: You know, I don't have any messages. Jayton Miller: Where can they find you on social media and your website and stuff like that? Theresa Piela: Yeah. I'm at Living Roots Wellness and livingrootswellness.com, trying to always bring in something interesting. So whether it's a recipe or just kind of a blind spot in healing, that's been my approach, to see, again, the ... Really wanting to help the people that feel like they're doing everything. They feel like they've tried everything in the body, body or the brain, anything in between isn't shifting, time to start getting creative and really the idea of becoming your own expert and having a little bit of fun in the process, I think, is a huge thing that's so easy to forget as you get kind of hyper-focused in wanting to feel better. It's so hard to feel fun and playful when you're super sick, but that's almost part of the way out too. So it's, again, with that brain rewiring, start doing the things you'd be doing when you're healthy, within reason, start thinking in ways that a healthy version of you would be thinking and really let that integrate with time. Yeah. Do you have any thoughts on that? Jayton Miller: I would say one tip that I've noticed is try to game-ify everything. Just gamification of your entire life helps tremendously. Theresa Piela: Yeah. Well, I kind of think of my days that way. If I find myself getting a little bit too serious about something, I have to, again, stop myself in the same way I'd stop those kinds of hypervigilant, loop-based thoughts and say, "Whoa, what needs some play here?" So gamification, that's a term I haven't heard, but I love it Jayton Miller: Definitely. Well, Theresa, I really appreciate you being on here. I appreciate your time. For all of those you listening, make sure to give her a follow on Instagram and check out her website. Thanks for listening to the podcast. If you haven't already, make sure to hit the like button, subscribe and leave a comment down below if you want us to cover a different topic.
In this episode of The Thermo Diet Podcast Jayton Miller sits down with Loren Delacruz. Loren is a function Nutrition Therapy Practitioner and Root Cause Protocol Practitioner. She has a unique perspective on different areas of the metabolic theory of health, and in this episode, you hear her speak about iron, why we need to get rid of iron, zinc, copper, and so much more. Check it out and let us know what you think! Facebook Group and Fanpage - Thermo Diet Community Group ( https://www.facebook.com/groups/16721... ) - Thermo Diet Fan Page ( https://www.facebook.com/thermodiet/ ) Youtube Channels: - Christopher Walker ( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTA1... ) - UMZU Health ( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2IE... ) Instagram: - @_christopherwalker ( https://www.instagram.com/_christophe... ) - @researchcowboy ( https://www.instagram.com/researchcow... ) https://umzu.com/ Loren's Website - https://www.innate-nutrition.com/ Studies Mentioned - Deiodinase: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8116544/ From my notes: Deiodinase enzyme is selenoenzyme, doesn't work unless copper is present < I can't find anything about selenium binding to copper, but would be very curious if you end up finding something! Male Fertility: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8033970/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25245929/ Anemia of Chronic Inflammation: I believe this is the study actually calling it ACI... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4115203/ Iron Chelation for Covid - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7366458/ Full Transcript: Jayton Miller: Welcome back to the ThermoDiet Podcast. I'm your host, Jayton Miller. And today, I have on the podcast, Loren De La Cruz. So Loren is filled with information. And today, she takes us through all of the details on iron, zinc, copper, vitamin A, and how they play a role with each other. So I'm really looking forward to being able to let you all listen to this episode. So let's get into it. Jayton Miller: How's it going today, guys? I am here with Loren De La Cruz from Innate. It's Innate Functional Nutrition, correct? Loren De La Cruz: That's my Instagram handle, but my business is Innate Nutrition. Jayton Miller: Okay. Awesome. How are you doing today? Loren De La Cruz: I'm doing well. Thank you. Thanks for having me Jayton. Jayton Miller: Yes, ma'am. Loren De La Cruz: Super excited to be here. Jayton Miller: Definitely. So for the listeners out there, could you tell them your background story and how you got to where you are? Loren De La Cruz: Of course, yes. So I guess my path to nutrition is what you're looking for, right? So yes, I first started my foray into nutrition was actually after my experience with the birth control pill. I had been on the birth control pill for about eight years. And I actually started the birth control pill, and you know hindsight is 2020, from getting cystic acne, because I got such terrible cystic acne after being vegan. Loren De La Cruz: So now I know that there was a lot of mineral deficiencies and nutrient deficiencies, vitamin deficiencies that spurred that hormonal imbalance. But I was on the birth control pill for about eight years, and it stopped working. I also had terrible health while I was on it. So I knew that there was something wrong. It wasn't working for me. There was definitely some downsides to it. And the more I started researching, the more I realized I didn't know much about it at all. And I started getting really informed. Loren De La Cruz: And when I came off the birth control pill, I had terrible symptoms as well. While I was on the birth control pill, I had candida, I developed an autoimmune skin condition, I was prediabetic. I had all of these health issues and no doctor ever connected the dots. So when I came off of it, I also had a slew of issues. I started losing my hair, the cystic acne came back 10 times worse. And no doctor that I had, whose care I was under, so my dermatologist, primary care physician and my gynecologist as well, no, they couldn't offer me any other solution other than to get back on the pill or to get on a different one such as spironolactone. Loren De La Cruz: So I started taking things into my own hands, doing even more research and really experimenting with nutrition and lifestyle. And I ended up healing myself through some smart changes with lifestyle, some really smart changes with nutrition. I also had ended up healing my lifelong asthma, which was a icing on the cake when it came to my healing process. And after that, I knew that there had to be a better way than the ways that we were approaching these issues, like prediabetes, like post-birth control syndrome, like cystic acne, like asthma. And I really wanted to get in, dig in even more and get some schooling, and really help people look for an alternative approach to their ailments. Jayton Miller: Definitely. That's awesome. So one area that you talk really well on is iron. So can you go into what iron's role is and why we usually have too much of it? Loren De La Cruz: Yeah, of course. So iron's role, it performs a couple of functions in the body. It's mostly known for its involvement, and I should say that's a keyword, involved in the transfer of oxygen from the lungs to the tissues, and the creation of red blood cells. So that's where it gets its fame. Energy production as well, but it's involved in those functions, not necessarily responsible for is what I want to clarify. Loren De La Cruz: So we get iron from our food. And usually, there's heme iron, there's non-heme iron. So heme iron is going to be animal-based iron. And then there's plant iron, which is non-heme iron. And the heme iron is more readily absorbed and is more stable in the body versus non-heme iron. We absorb maybe 30%, but it's more volatile I should say. Loren De La Cruz: So essentially, we get a lot of iron already in our food system. We get it through animal foods, we get it through plant foods, but our food system has actually been fortified since the 1940s with iron shavings. So supplemental iron. And this was very misguided. It's hard to pinpoint the exact reason why we started fortifying the food system, but now you also have enriched flours and iron being added to a lot of other things in our food system, not just the natural sources that we get that we usually eat day to day. Loren De La Cruz: So we're getting a lot. And I think the percentage is something like it's increased almost 400% since the 1940s, the iron content in our food system. So it's really prevalent in our food system. We get plenty, plenty, plenty every day. So we're getting lots of it. And it's actually creating a lot of problems. One being, we have this very sophisticated iron recycling system that most researchers tend to overlook. It's called the reticuloendothelial system, the RES. I'm just going to call it the iron recycling system. Loren De La Cruz: And it involves the small intestine, the spleen, the bone marrow, the liver, a bunch of other organs. And it's a sophisticated system that helps recycle 24 milligrams of iron every day, all by itself. So when red blood cells go to die, we actually reuse the iron that was in those red blood cells. We don't necessarily need extra. So we have a really sophisticated iron recycling system. So those dietary recommendations are actually quite inaccurate, because taken into account 24 milligrams, we only need one milligram perhaps per day. Loren De La Cruz: And I should mention also that our recycling system, I say 24 minimum. So there's other people that say that it's upwards of 30 milligrams per day that we can recycle all by ourselves. So we have our reticuloendothelial iron recycling system, really sophisticated, helping us recycle all the red blood cells, all the iron in our body, but we're also adding more of it. And that's where we are getting really in a sticky situation. Loren De La Cruz: And so when we talk about copper too, and our food system's impact on copper, the supplements that we're taking, the daily practices that we have every day, that plays a huge role into why iron has gotten so out of control. But I'll let you continue asking questions because we'll definitely come back to that. Jayton Miller: All right. Sounds good. Yeah, that's really interesting. And so by having this excess iron, that's why we start to get deposits in the different tissues around the body, correct? Loren De La Cruz: That's absolutely correct. So when we have excess iron, I mentioned copper, and this is really important to understand why; copper is what helps manage iron. So in the world of minerals and vitamins, there's virtually none that work alone. There's always a partner or multiple partners. And for iron, that partner is copper. So copper is what actually helps manage the mineral itself, iron itself. Loren De La Cruz: So wherever there's iron, there's always copper because if you just have iron alone and it interacts with oxygen, which is very likely in our bodies, it's going to create rust. And you have cast iron pans probably, or one cast iron pan or you've seen one, and maybe you've seen a not so well taken care of one, and it starts creating rust just by being exposed to air. That's why we have to cure it. So copper is what helps cure iron, and helps it interact with oxygen safely in the body. Loren De La Cruz: So when it's carrying oxygen to go make energy, or to go make new red blood cells, copper is always there to help really protect the iron and protect the oxygen from creating rust. So it's like a buffer. So what happens when we don't have enough copper, or what happens when we have too much iron, the ratio is just completely imbalanced. The body knows that iron is very toxic in the body. It's very reactive. It's going to create a lot of free radicals; rust, reactive oxygen species. And so the body will take it out of the bloodstream and sequester it into the tissues. Loren De La Cruz: And this could be the liver, this could be the muscle tissue, this could be other organs. So it sequesters it into organs. And it's kind of a protective mechanism, although that in itself is not ideal either, because sequestering iron can create things like autoimmune disease and arthritis, and just a bunch of other issues. Jayton Miller: The biggest one that I see is pituitary issues. The iron deposition in the pituitary is a big one. Loren De La Cruz: That is a very real thing. Yep, yep. And that can create a lot of problems. So basically, any disease really can be traced back to iron. That is a very good point. It's just so reactive and is such a trigger for the immune system inflammation. So the body knows how reactive iron is. So it'll take it out of the bloodstream, sequester it. And that's why people, when they have too much iron, actually it's called anemia. Loren De La Cruz: And so the body has taken the iron out of the bloodstream, but we only test for serum ferritin when we test for iron levels, which is also a very inaccurate way to test for iron. So we don't get a true reading of what's actually happening. We could have no iron in the blood or very little, but tons of it in the tissues, up to 10 times more. So it's really backwards in the way that we test for iron, and the way we treat anemia, which is usually more iron, which causes the body to sequester it even more. That's why iron therapy doesn't really work, or creates worse problems. Loren De La Cruz: It'll work for a temporary timeframe in terms of getting the serum ferritin up or hemoglobin up. But then you see people, that's why they have to get iron infusions multiple times. That's why they said, "Oh yeah, I started taking iron pills. They worked for a little while, but then my anemia came back." It's because iron therapy in the body is trying to protect itself from the excess iron that you're giving it with the iron therapy. Jayton Miller: So- Loren De La Cruz: And it's very well ... I'm sorry. Jayton Miller: It just ramps up the storage of the iron. So by supplementing with iron, it's just making the body speed up the storage of it? Loren De La Cruz: Yeah. Jayton Miller: Okay. Loren De La Cruz: So we're not solving the problem by taking more iron. And the problem is usually 99% of the time, copper deficiency or retinol deficiency; so that's a vitamin A. So either one can really create sequestration of iron because we need copper to manage iron. We need copper to help create new red blood cells with the iron. We need copper for so many other things in the body. Loren De La Cruz: And so the reason I say retinol, vitamin A, that's actually what activates "copper". So copper itself, it's a great mineral, but copper needs to be in the form called ceruloplasmin, which is a very ... an easy way to think about this is saying it's activated copper. And retinol, so vitamin A, real vitamin A, not from plants, not beta carotene from animal fats, from things like beef tallow and butter, and high quality dairy and liver. That's what loads copper into the ceruloplasmin enzyme. And ceruloplasmin is really what's carrying out all of these functions, and allowing iron to interact with oxygen very safely. So totally, it could be either of those things. Loren De La Cruz: I should also mention too, that infection can also cause anemia. And we have to, also, when we think about infection, we have to think about the strength of the host, because it's not just the infection that's causing the iron sequestration. It's the strength of the host. How's their stomach acid? Are they really resilient to infection? And copper is needed for the immune system as well. It's very well-documented there. But if you have an infection like a parasite or a virus or bacteria, that's what feeds on iron. It's like their favorite food. Loren De La Cruz: So the body also will take iron from the blood and store in the tissue, so that these infections, these pathogens cannot consume and proliferate off of the iron that's in the blood. So that could be another alternative reason. But that said, there's always a reason for the weakness of the host and why it got to that place in the first place. Jayton Miller: Wow. That's really interesting. So, how does zinc play a role in this? So isn't there a ratio between copper and zinc that we need to take into consideration? Loren De La Cruz: Yeah, there definitely is. And they share the same receptor sites. So this is why the kind of ratio is important because if the receptor sites are all like, I think of it as a parking lot, if the parking lot is all full with copper cars or the parking lot is all full with zinc cars, then we're not going to be able to absorb the other mineral. So it's important in a sense, because then we're not recreating an imbalance in a sense. Loren De La Cruz: So I don't over index on the ratio too much in my practice, but it is important because it tells us a little bit about hormones. With hair tissue and mineral analysis, which is one of the lab tests that I offer to my clients, the copper ratio is more correlated with an estrogen effect, whereas the zinc ratio is correlated with a more progesterone, which is an anabolic hormone, and testosterone, which is also an anabolic hormone effect. So if there's too much copper or too much zinc, we're going to have a bit of an imbalance. Loren De La Cruz: And usually if copper is too high, it's not that there's too much. It's not a bad thing per se. It just means that it's probably unbound from ceruloplasmin, which is that copper protein that allows it to work safely in the body. So we have to think about why that might be, and it's probably due to, again, retinol deficiency. So we need that retinol to load copper into that protein. And we don't necessarily need to do anything to get rid of the copper. We just need to allow it, give it the tools to function properly in the body and get loaded into that protein properly to reestablish balance. Loren De La Cruz: So, yes, the ratio is important, but I also, like I mentioned, I don't condone trying to shift it too much by supplementing copper or zinc either. And the reason being, again, they compete for receptor sites. So it can push you into another extreme. But also, if you do supplement zinc, it triggers a synthesis of this protein called metallothionein. And metallothionein binds up zinc and copper, but it binds up copper at 1,000 times strength compared to zinc. So it creates an even more strong imbalance, and it can have pretty bad ramifications down the line. Loren De La Cruz: I've seen a lot of zinc supplementers pretty imbalanced in their ability to recycle iron because of their zinc supplementation. So it all has a trickle-down effect. Again, minerals and vitamins don't operate in isolation. There's always some consequence if you do supplement one thing or another. Jayton Miller: So a lot of athletes are told they need to supplement zinc because they run through it faster during times of extreme exercise. What's your recommendation for that? Loren De La Cruz: Oh, that's interesting. I would argue that they run through copper probably just as quickly or more, because copper is so critical for creating energy. You can't create energy without copper. And so zinc is not present in that chain, from my understanding. So to support an immense amount of exercise, you obviously need energy. And of course, we burn through tons of other minerals like magnesium, potassium, sodium. Loren De La Cruz: Sure, zinc. I bet we're burning through a bunch of vitamin C, a bunch of B vitamins as well. So to say that, or to look at exercise as a depletion of zinc is just one, or tunnel visioned, I guess. There's a lot more going on. And again, minerals and vitamins act synergistically. So to be supplementing one is shortchanging the immense impact and importance of magnesium, potassium, sodium, which are arguably even more important for athletic performance. Jayton Miller: Wow. So, do you notice that whenever people are in an anemic state, it's just a copper deficiency or a vitamin A deficiency? Loren De La Cruz: It depends. And that's why I don't like to use serum ferritin as a marker for iron status. It's because serum ferritin is actually a sign of pathophysiology. So ferritin should be inside of the protein, not outside. And so when we're measuring serum ferritin, something's wrong. And that got started in the '80s when a Spanish doctor discovered this marker and everyone hopped on it, because it was a new, bright, shiny thing. But we actually used to measure iron status via hemoglobin, before that. And that's a much more accurate marker. Loren De La Cruz: So I personally like to use the Full Monty Iron Panel, which has a bunch of iron markers. It includes ceruloplasmin, which is the really important copper protein that I just mentioned. Copper, it does include ferritin, so you would get that as well. It includes hemoglobin, iron, total iron binding capacity, magnesium, red blood cell count, transferrin. You get vitamin A, you get vitamin D, and you get zinc. So you get this really big picture of all the factors that could be levers in iron status. And so it really depends, to answer your question, because there are people that have plenty of copper, but not enough ceruloplasmin. So in that case, we would need to work on getting them a little more retinol, figuring out why they have too much copper in the first place. Loren De La Cruz: So it's more of like a ratio thing. Or if maybe they might have enough ceruloplasmin, but just a ton of iron and a ton of iron saturation, and so maybe we need to look at zinc. Are there other supplements that they're taking, or what they're eating, to really figure out okay, why do you have so much iron in the body? Or is it just that you need time to rebalance? Because once you have enough ceruloplasmin, that's when all the magic really starts to happen. Jayton Miller: Definitely. So if someone does have iron overload, what are some of the ways that they can get rid of it? Loren De La Cruz: That's a great question. So figuring out if you have iron overload, it's tough, but you can pretty much assume that almost everyone in the United States, at least, has iron overload just due to the fact that we've been so bombarded with iron throughout our entire lives, since the 1940s. But there's also this other aspect of other compounds or supplements, or things that can also negatively impact copper and ceruloplasmin status, which also impact our ability to manage iron. And so we end up iron overloaded. Loren De La Cruz: These are things like vitamin D supplements, ascorbic acid, zinc supplements, which we talked about already, refined foods because they're usually fortified foods and can contribute to extra imbalance, zeolite supplements. So there's a couple of multivitamins, prenatals. There's a long list of things that can impact the status of ceruloplasmin. And that in itself can impact our ability to recycle iron properly. So we have to first, stop taking those things. And that can be ... it makes a huge impact. Loren De La Cruz: And that can be honestly, sometimes enough. But if you start to look at your food ingredient labels and see, okay, ascorbic acid is acid added to this, okay, my milk has synthetic vitamin D added to it, am I taking vitamin D? Am I taking zinc? Things like that. Start to really look at the labels of the things that you're taking, the things that you're eating, and start removing those negative compounds. And then the next stage I would say, or phase would be to get nutrients that support the production of ceruloplasmin. So make sure you're getting enough copper in your diet, make sure you're getting enough retinol in your diet. Loren De La Cruz: So low fat diets or diets that are mostly unsaturated fats, that's not going to help with ceruloplasmin production. So we need to be getting a lot of animal fats through beef liver, through high quality dairy, through butter, ghee, beef tallow. So those really, really yummy foods and fats, and not skimping on the fat when you do have a nice fatty piece of meat, just eating it. And then getting enough copper-rich foods as well. So copper-rich foods include beef liver, which usually copper-rich foods are also iron-rich foods. That's the way nature intended. It puts these co-factors all in one food. Loren De La Cruz: That's why mother nature is so beautiful and whole foods are so beautiful. So beef liver, oysters, huge amount of copper, vitamin C-rich foods. So that actually has copper inside of it because it has an enzyme called tyrosinase, which contains copper inside of it. And I think this is why copper is so important for collagen formation and structural formation as well, structural fortification and myelin sheath creation too, is because it operates in an enzyme called lysyl oxidase. So making sure you're getting enough vitamin C-rich foods. Loren De La Cruz: I definitely love shellfish as well. So like lobster, crab, shrimp if you have access to it or can afford it. These things don't have to be super fresh either. They can be canned. So if you want oysters, don't worry. You can have canned oysters, or you can even take desiccated oyster. And that's fine. So getting a lot of retinol-rich foods, getting a lot of copper-rich foods and yeah, that's the next step, I would say in terms of being able to manage your iron better. Jayton Miller: That's awesome. So, do you take any steps towards chelating iron? Loren De La Cruz: Sometimes. It depends on the person. Blood donations for example, are really non-invasive. Well, I shouldn't say non-invasive, but really a gentle way to chelate iron. So we lose quite a bit of iron during a blood donation, and that reignites the iron recycling system that we have in our body, so all those organs, the bone marrow to create more red blood cells. And so it needs to release the iron that's stored in our tissues in order to do that. It kind of coaxes it out, because it's like, "Hey, we need more." Okay. It's okay to release it. It's not going to be eaten by an infection or bacteria. So that's a really great way to restart, or I should say supercharge your iron recycling system. Loren De La Cruz: If you're a female, making sure you're cycling. So your monthly cycle, your monthly period is a great way to detoxify iron as well. So I would fight for that cycle. If you're not someone that's cycling or if you have gone through menopause, scheduling a quarterly blood donation is just like I recommend for meals. Quarterly blood donations are a great way to really gently get rid of excess iron in the body. There are of course, other therapies. There's apolactoferrin, there's IP6, there's curcumin, but those therapies I would use probably in a case by case basis, depending on how they're tracking, how my client is tracking towards creating ceruloplasmin and their iron saturation and all that stuff. Jayton Miller: Do you ever do salicylic acid, or making sure to drink coffee after meals, stuff like that? Loren De La Cruz: Oh, yeah. That's a really, really great and easy way to do that, chelate iron as well. So coffee has really amazing properties. I think it's the caffeic acid in the coffee beans plus any some kind of polyphenols. It's not just the caffeine, it's the polyphenols as well that really help block iron from being absorbed in the digestive system. Caster oil actually, also has really amazing iron chelating properties due to quercetin. So that's another iron chelater that's actually pretty gentle to take as well. Loren De La Cruz: Iron chelation is also ... there's a study by Perricone that you can probably find online. I can share that with you after the show, but iron chelation therapy is actually a really great way to combat this virus that's going around. Jayton Miller: Wow. Loren De La Cruz: Yeah, it's super effective. So also, that's what hydroxychloroquine is, too, which is the controversial, but also star that's being touted as a helpful protectant. So, yeah. Jayton Miller: That's awesome. Do you ever use activated charcoal? Loren De La Cruz: Not too much. I don't use it as much unless I'm experiencing some kind of digestive distress or anything like that, which is not very often. But I do like it. I prefer to use other therapies just because it has to be taken in a very specific way, and it can bind to not just iron, but other minerals when going through. Loren De La Cruz: So that's especially if you eat it in your food. But if not, it's pretty great. But I do really like that, especially for mold, when people have experienced mold illness as well, which that can also really tank someone's copper and ceruloplasmin as well, and lead to iron overload. Jayton Miller: Definitely. So, what are some of the signs that someone can look for if they have either an excess of iron? And then what are some of the signs that they can look for if they are deficient in vitamin A or copper? Loren De La Cruz: Those are really good questions. So signs of excess iron, we'll start with that. I might forget the other one, so you might have to remind me. Jayton Miller: Okay. Loren De La Cruz: Signs of excess iron. So really, it could be anything, honestly; high blood pressure, high cholesterol. Just overall, it's just like a low metabolism, because metabolic function, that's what copper helps support is you need copper if you want proper metabolic function. And when we don't have copper or ceruloplasmin, our metabolic function will start to deteriorate. And what deteriorating metabolic function looks like, can look like anything. It can look like imbalanced hormones. It can look like chronic illness. Loren De La Cruz: It can look like, again, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, hypothyroidism, cold hands and feet, not sleeping through the night, insomnia. Just honestly, any symptom you can pretty much connect with iron overload. And that's a result of a lower metabolism, because if you don't have enough copper to run it, iron is going to build. I know that's probably not as clear-cut as your listeners might want, but it always helps to ... if you're looking to optimize your metabolism and you don't feel like you're there, you probably have a little bit of excess iron that needs to be taken care of. Loren De La Cruz: And I guess, another clear-cut sign would be hormone levels. So estrogen, for example, increases the ability to absorb iron by three times. And in pregnant women, it's nine times. Jayton Miller: Wow. Loren De La Cruz: So it's kind of funny how women are the ones that are more anemic than men, and pregnant women also deal with this kind of anemia on the third trimester. So these dots should be connecting for you and your listeners. And so if we have excess estrogen, and men can have that too, if you're a little overweight or if you have excess fat on your body, our fat cells can create estrogen too. So we are probably more estrogen dominant in that sense. Loren De La Cruz: So any kind of estrogen dominance or hormonal imbalance, low T can also be a thing too. We probably are iron toxic in a way. And depending on the severity, that really is not known until you get a test, but that's another way to think about iron overload is the hormonal aspect. So you asked about vitamin A and copper? Jayton Miller: Copper. So, how do we tell if we have a deficiency in those? Are they the same signs? Loren De La Cruz: They can be very similar. There is some overlap there, for sure. Like skin issues are very clear-cut vitamin A deficiencies. Bone growth and development issues; so if you have constant breakages or spurs, you might be vitamin A deficient. Vitamin A is actually quite much more important for bone health than vitamin D. Much more, because vitamin A activates vitamin D. A little secret. Loren De La Cruz: So a lot of people that have bone issues, skin issues, immune system issues as well, again, vitamin A activates vitamin D. So if your immune system is not functioning properly, you're low in vitamin D, there's a whole another tangent I can go off because the testing is also very backwards for that, but you need vitamin A for all those functions. And copper as well. Loren De La Cruz: Copper is really important for thyroid function. So you need copper to convert T4 into T3, the more active and potent thyroid hormone. You need copper for cholesterol recycling. You need copper for immune function. Because copper is so critical to energy production, and vitamin A is as well in the way that it activates copper, any deficiency in these will be shown in a lack of energy production. And the lack of energy production is the beginning of disease. So if there's any sort of issue that you're struggling with, it's probably due to a lack of energy, which means you probably need more copper and vitamin A. Jayton Miller: Definitely. I would say low protective hormones in most cases, too. Loren De La Cruz: Oh, yeah. Jayton Miller: Because I think pregnenolone is derived from cholesterol, vitamin A and T3. Loren De La Cruz: That's correct. Mm-hmm (affirmative). Jayton Miller: So in order for steroidogenesis to take place, you have to have vitamin A present. So low protective hormones in general are also added in there. Loren De La Cruz: Yeah, absolutely. Jayton Miller: And then I had another. Oh. So, does copper work with selenium for the deiodinase enzyme? Loren De La Cruz: Yes, it does. Jayton Miller: Okay, okay. Loren De La Cruz: Yeah. Jayton Miller: So, do they form together to make the deiodinase enzyme? Loren De La Cruz: That, I cannot recall. Jayton Miller: Okay. Loren De La Cruz: But I do know that copper plays a really big role in that. Jayton Miller: Okay. Loren De La Cruz: So I'd have to look up my notes, but I can follow up with you. Jayton Miller: Okay. Definitely. I'm interested in that. I'll put it in the show notes for anybody who is curious about whether or not copper and selenium attach to each other to form that enzyme. But that is really the extent of the questions that I had prepared. Is there anything else that you would like to tell the audience or let them know? Loren De La Cruz: Oh, yeah. If you're interested in learning more about iron and iron toxicity, I'm definitely well-versed in it because I went through a program called The Root Cause Protocol. So my mentor and teacher is named Morley Robbins, and he's the Magnesium Man, but he's basically the Iron Man at this point. And so all of my research, I've done additional research, but a lot of it's based on the research that he's done and led the charge on. So I'd go check out The Root Cause Protocol. Loren De La Cruz: There's a free protocol that you can do to start building up your ceruloplasmin levels. So check that out. And then yeah, I primarily work with women, but I love minerals. I have a huge interest and a passion for minerals. And so this is why I find myself here with Dayton right now. But yeah, feel free to check out my page. I have a lot more information on ascorbic acid, vitamin D, zinc supplementation. So if those piqued your interest, definitely check it out. Jayton Miller: And that is innatenutrition.com? Loren De La Cruz: Yeah. Innate-nutrition.com, or Innate Functional Nutrition. And that's @innatefunctionalnutrition on Instagram. Jayton Miller: Yeah, check that out. I follow her on Instagram. I love your Instagram page. It's great. Loren De La Cruz: Thank you. Jayton Miller: You did a really good job, so keep it up. I respect that. Loren De La Cruz: I appreciate that. Jayton Miller: But yeah. Thanks for listening, and make sure to give Loren a follow and check out her website. I was looking on it earlier and it actually is a pretty good website. Loren De La Cruz: Thank you. Jayton Miller: So make sure you check it out. Loren De La Cruz: Thanks so much, Jayton. Jayton Miller: Yes, ma'am. Have a good one. Thanks for listening to the podcast. If you haven't already, make sure to hit the like button, subscribe and leave a comment down below if you want us to cover a different topic.
I this episode of The Thermo Diet Podcast Jayton Miller sits down with health and wellness professional Keith Littlewood for a second talk. In this episode, Jayton and Keith talk about all things thyroid. From how estrogen and cortisol affect the thyroid to how methylene blue can increase the amount of available thyroid hormone in serum. They also talk about Keith Functional Endocrinology and Nutrition Seminars where Keith teaches people everything you would ever want to know about hormones and food. Check it out and let us know what you think! Facebook Group and Fanpage - Thermo Diet Community Group ( https://www.facebook.com/groups/16721... ) - Thermo Diet Fan Page ( https://www.facebook.com/thermodiet/ ) Youtube Channels: - Christopher Walker ( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTA1... ) - UMZU Health ( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2IE... ) Instagram: - @_christopherwalker ( https://www.instagram.com/_christophe... ) - @researchcowboy ( https://www.instagram.com/researchcow... ) Keith's Website - https://balancedbodymind.com/
Jayton Gray is just a boy from the island of Guam who’s passionate about dance and entertaining. Currently living in San Diego, California he hopes to turn dance into a career but more importantly wants to be a role model for the youth, especially his little sister Victoria. Jayton hopes to have an impact on the lives he touches and is a proud advocate for equality. Black Lives Matter. Intro.: 0:00 Thoughts on the dance community, how it has changed since you've been a part of it.: 0:41 When did you start dancing seriously in Guam/in the States?: 2:18 What was the training like in Guam? Similarities/differences in comparison to socal?: 4:29 How did you hear about Gwownups? Gwownups Gen 1.: 7:31 How do you think COVID-19 will affect the dance community moving forward?: 12:31 Pivotal moment in your dance career?: 16:38 Pros and cons of choreography being the basis of your dance foundation.: 20:14 Foundational training in Guam.: 22:34 Any particular dance style or exercise you really vibed with?: 24:19 Greatest lessons you've learned from dance.: 30:36 Biggest influence in the lessons you've learned.: 32:51 What it's like to work within a team and towards a common goal?: 34:51 Where you are at with your teaching philosophy? Dance styles you've been studying.: 41:20 What did it mean to you receiving Performer of the Year Award? What did that do for you moving forward?: 45:02
Jayton Gray is just a boy from the island of Guam who’s passionate about dance and entertaining. Currently living in San Diego, California he hopes to turn dance into a career but more importantly wants to be a role model for the youth, especially his little sister Victoria. Jayton hopes to have an impact on the lives he touches and is a proud advocate for equality. Black Lives Matter. Intro.: 0:00 Being a role model/mentor to your baby sister.: 0:25 What's it like living with your sister now in comparison to living apart.: 2:16 How does she like her experience so far taking dance classes?: 5:17 Do you think you'd be as happy and excited if it was something outside of dance?: 6:48 Lifestyle change, minimal time with your sister before to a lot of time now.: 9:28 Best thing being an older brother and also biggest challenge.: 11:25 Growing up in a completely different world.: 15:01 What would you say to your thirteen-year-old self?: 17:14
Category: For Texans By Texans (4TXT) Social Media Coordinator Kaity Burris and Director/Producer Lane Senn meet with Jayton Laposky to explore the Physical Therapy School application process and the importance of your resume. They also go into detail about the specific requirements and the expectations for pursuing PT school. Directed/Produced by: Lane Senn @Lane_Osenn Hosted by: Kaity Burris and Lane Senn @ktb579 @Lane_Osenn Special Guest: Jayton Laposky
Lubbock Avalanche-Journal high school Alexis Cubit and KLBK sports director Ryan King go over the upcoming playoff football playoff schedule. Jayton coach Josh Stanaland joins in the second segment to discuss the Jaybirds' district championship and how a stout defense will be key moving forward heading into the playoffs. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
This week Jayton is back! The three discuss Halloween and answer some questions they were asked on their Twitter page such as stories of when they first lost their teeth and their first impressions of each other!
We finally both find the time to sit down for a complete segment and episode of The High School Athlete Podcast. It is always good talking with Coach Bleiker, especially because he was my high school basketball coach. Coach Bleiker is a guy who will be named into the high school coaches hall of fame if that sort of thing exists. If that sort of award exists for 1A classification then the decision will be a no brainer. I am also projecting that Coach Bleiker will have at least a few more opportunities to win a state championship in basketball. In this episode we travel back to his first coaching job at Rule to his current position in Jayton. Definitely a players coach, the athletes enjoy playing for him and I think that is very important for success. I ask the common question of the conditions of Covid and so far the virus has not slowed down the program at all in Jayton (knocking on wood here). If you listened to the players episode with Tripp Scott and Pecos Smith then you will understand how much the players appreciate Coach Bleiker and I will also back the positive claims from way back in my high school playing days. Coach is just an overall great guy and family man but he is one heck of a basketball coach. Coach Bleiker has had the Jayton basketball program moving in the right direction for a few years now and he puts us onto one of his secrets of starting the kids at a young age and being a big part of the younger programs that are available to those not yet in junior high. The winning comes with hard work and it won't happen if you only play or practice during the season only. To be successful you need to be working on your craft year round in one aspect or another. Coach speaks on the training of his players and the positive results of being a multi sport athlete. Great episode. Enjoy!
This was was about the Jayton JayBirds. Who better to talk to than Tripp Scott and Pecos Smith. I enjoyed getting to learn about these guys and talk about the transition into success in multiple sports in the Jayton Athletic Department. Two guys here who just want to win and see themselves as team players. Listen, I don't expect any type of manners on the show.. I want you to be yourself but these two were always yes sir the entire time and I think that says a lot about the coaching staff and their families back at home. With a district championship in mind the Jaybirds are coming off of a Friday night loss but hope to rebound next week. Give these guys a listen and let's support those Jayton Jaybirds. -Jay
In this episode of The Thermo Diet Podcast Jake Miner sits down with Jayton Miller and talks about his health journey, how he came into the UMZU realm and how he overcame some of his health issues over the years and much more. Check it out and let us know what you think! Facebook Group and Fanpage: - Thermo Diet Community Group - Thermo Diet Fan Page Youtube Channels: - Christopher Walker - UMZU Health Instagram: - @_christopherwalker - @researchcowboy Website: - thermodiet.com https://umzu.com/ Thermo Diet Roadmap
In this episode of The Thermo Diet Podcast Jayton Miller sits down with Colin Ricco, one of the original people who were on to the philosophy when it first began. In this episode Jayton and Colin talk about various topics from his story and background, mindset, how to try and be Thermo with a spouse, and so much more. Check it out and let us know what you think! Facebook Group and Fanpage: - Thermo Diet Community Group - Thermo Diet Fan Page Youtube Channels: - Christopher Walker - UMZU Health Instagram: - @_christopherwalker - @researchcowboy Website: - thermodiet.com https://umzu.com/ Thermo Diet Roadmap
Introducing Jayton Brophy as a permanent member of the podcast. Jayton, Angie, and Catie discuss the secret to frat boys, hump day, and who would win in a fight between high school theater kids and high school band kids.
Choo choo! Exciting episode alert! This episode, Hannah and Holly chatted with the executive members of EngiQueers Canada- a non-profit organization that connects LGBTQ+ engineering groups across Canada with the goal of promoting and advocating for the inclusion of LGBTQ+ students (and their allies) in engineering schools across Canada. These super rad folx chat about their experiences as LGBTQ+ engineering students, ways to make the engineering community more inclusive, and share some of the incredible work they do in the community. BIG thanks to Dilsha, Rhys, Jayton, Carmen, Sophie, Trestan, Caroline, and Nat for sharing their thoughts and experiences. You can follow EngiQueers on social media @engiqueers on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok or connect with them on their website -- engiqueers.ca Full STEAM Ahead is a podcast initiative from Cybermentor- an online mentoring program for girls age 11-18 in Alberta, Canada that connects them with women in STEAM careers. To learn more about Cybermentor, follow us @cybermentor on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and LinkedIn or check out our website at cybermentor.ca
In this episode of The Thermo Diet Podcast Jayton Miller sits down with Danny Roddy, otherwise known as the Peat whisperer. Jayton and Danny talk about some ideas about serotonin receptors and our perceived reality, baldness and some of the best tips to help prevent it along with growing hair more effectively, and more! Check it out and let us know what you think!
A lively conversation with Ryan Bleiker, Jayton, and Bubba Edwards, Borden County. They give insight on building a winning program and describe what it's like playing in that type of program and building it as a coach. Excellent insight by these two coaches!
In this episode of The Thermo Diet Podcast Jayton sits down with Hans Amato an independent researcher and mens health coach. Jayton and hans talk about topics around training, nutrition, and lifestyle. Check it out and let us know what you think!
In today's episode Jayton Marnell from Texas shares his inspiring business story. Jayton grew up in a farming family and learned a diligent work ethic from a young age. His dad bought him a golf cart with a trailer so he could start mowing at age 12. Today he his 21 and his lawn care and landscape business continues to grow. 50% OFF GIE+EXPO 2020 Hardscape Academy @greenindustrypodcast https://www.lawntrepreneuracademy.com/ @j10_marnell
This interview with Jayton Harps, Systems Engineer at Northrop Grumman takes us in a path of discovery into how a student led organization may CHANGE you're entire life and career. We learn about his love for video games and the influence it had in his career selection since an early age. Connect with Jayton Harps from Northrop Grumman via LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jayton-harps-274b9513 Share...subscribe...like!!! #successinnovation #leadership #NSBE #northropgrumman #empower #PERSISTENCE #dedication #preparation
Join us as we sit down with Cassandra Schaeg, Owner of SIP Wine & Beer in Escondido, CA. We cover a range of topics regarding entrepreneurship. Notes below: 5:30 - Question #1: What do you think makes your business successful in today's business economy? 9:00-9:20 - Brian Statement: 8-A Contracts 10:00-11:15 - Brian Expert Witness Explanation 11:20-12:19 - Jayton, Zero To Neccessary explanation 13:30 - Question #2: Do you Feel your Business is Timeless and Why? 14:50-18:48 - Cassandra/Brian Expansion/Bankruptcy Talk 21:30 - Question #3: What does Entrepreneurship mean to you? 22:35 - Cassandra Note: "What's your price for ignorance?"think makes your business successful in today's business economy? 23:23 - 24:00 - Jayton: Persistence Quote/Talk 27:45-34: - Question 4: "If you had $10K to invest today what would you invest in? What about $20K?" Video editing by: lifeonneptunemedia.com @LifeonNeptuneMedia (IG) --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app
In this episode of the Thermo Diet Podcast Chris and Jayton sit down and answer some questions that were asked by some of the members within the Thermo Diet Community Group on Facebook. They talk about their current lifting routines, some of the physical goals they want to hit, some ways to look at the journey of life, and more. Check it out and let us know what you think! Facebook Group and Fanpage: - Thermo Diet Community Group - Thermo Diet Fan Page Youtube Channels: - Christopher Walker - UMZU Health Instagram: - @_christopherwalker - @researchcowboy Website: - thermodiet.com https://umzu.com/ Thermo Diet Roadmap
In this episode of the Thermo Diet Podcast Chris and Jayton sit down and answer some questions that were asked by some of the members within the Thermo Diet Community Group on Facebook. They talk about their current lifting routines, some of the physical goals they want to hit, some ways to look at the journey of life, and more. Check it out and let us know what you think! Facebook Group and Fanpage: - Thermo Diet Community Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/167212374136335/ Thermo Diet Fan Page https://www.facebook.com/thermodiet/ Youtube Channels: Christopher Walker https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTA1AuuXSVk0u2iXKHe2S3g UMZU Health https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2IEbi1KJ-IswlHz_dp7NJg Instagram: @_christopherwalker https://www.instagram.com/_christopherwalker/ @researchcowboy https://www.instagram.com/researchcowboy/
In this episode of The Thermo Diet Podcast Christopher Walker and Jayton Miller sit down and talk about the reasons that they do what they do. Why they got into health and why they decided to help spread the word of how to achieve optimal health. You get to hear all of Chris and Jayton's story about their health problems and what they had to go through to begin the journey to where they are now. Facebook Group and Fanpage: - Thermo Diet Community Group - Thermo Diet Fan Page Youtube Channels: - Christopher Walker - UMZU Health Instagram: - @_christopherwalker - @researchcowboy Website: - thermodiet.com https://umzu.com/ Thermo Diet Roadmap
In this episode of The Thermo Diet Podcast Christopher Walker and Jayton Miller sit down and talk about the reasons that they do what they do. Why they got into health and why they decided to help spread the word of how to achieve optimal health. You get to hear all of Chris and Jayton's story about their health problems and what they had to go through to begin the journey to where they are now.
In this episode of The Thermo Diet Christopher Walker and Jayton sit down and talk about the ins and outs of fasting, some of the experiences they have had with it, and more. Don't forget to like this video and comment down below on what you think! Facebook Group and Fanpage: - Thermo Diet Community Group - Thermo Diet Fan Page Youtube Channels: - Christopher Walker - UMZU Health Instagram: - @_christopherwalker - @researchcowboy Website: - thermodiet.com https://umzu.com/ Thermo Diet Roadmap
In this episode of The Thermo Diet Christopher Walker and Jayton sit down and talk about the ins and outs of fasting, some of the experiences they have had with it, and more. Don't forget to like this video and comment down below on what you think!
In this episode of The Thermo Diet Christopher Walker and Jayton sit down and talk about their supplements stacks, why they take them, and some of the best supplements they would utilize if they were only given a finite amount. Check it out and make sure to like the video and leave a comment letting us know what you think! Facebook Group and Fanpage: - Thermo Diet Community Group - Thermo Diet Fan Page Youtube Channels: - Christopher Walker - UMZU Health Instagram: - @_christopherwalker - @researchcowboy Website: - thermodiet.com https://umzu.com/ Thermo Diet Roadmap
In this episode of The Thermo Diet Christopher Walker and Jayton sit down and talk about their supplements stacks, why they take them, and some of the best supplements they would utilize if they were only given a finite amount. Check it out and make sure to like the video and leave a comment letting us know what you think!
In this episode of The Thermo Diet Podcast Christopher Walker and Jayton sit down and talk about some of the ways they are able to stay Thermo around the holidays. Learn some of their tips on the best ways to do just that! Don't forget to leave a comment down below on a future topic you would like to here, leave a like, and subscribe! Facebook Group and Fanpage: - Thermo Diet Community Group - Thermo Diet Fan Page Youtube Channels: - Christopher Walker - UMZU Health Instagram: - @christopher_walker - @researchcowboy Website: - thermodiet.com https://umzu.com/ Thermo Diet Roadmap
In this episode of The Thermo Diet Podcast Christopher Walker and Jayton sit down and talk about some of the ways they are able to stay Thermo around the holidays. Learn some of their tips on the best ways to do just that! Don't forget to leave a comment down below on a future topic you would like to here, leave a like, and subscribe!
The ONE thing holding you back as a Creator. - with Jayton Burnett - {C3}1 by Jayton Burnett
Have you ever wondered what the best diet for performance is? In this episode, Jayton sits down and talks about some of the reasons why the Thermo Diet is the optimal way of eating for high-level physical performance. Check it out! Facebook Group and Fanpage: - Thermo Diet Community Group - Thermo Diet Fan Page Youtube Channels: - Christopher Walker - UMZU Health Instagram: - @christopher_walker - @researchcowboy Website: - thermodiet.com https://umzu.com/ Thermo Diet Roadmap
Have you ever wondered what the best diet for performance is? In this episode, Jayton sits down and talks about some of the reasons why the Thermo Diet is the optimal way of eating for high-level physical performance. Check it out!
In this episode of the Thermo Diet Podcast, Christopher Walker and Jayton sit down and talk about some of the intricacies of the metabolism and the foundational elements you need and can do in order to optimize your metabolism. Check it out! Facebook Group and Fanpage: - Thermo Diet Community Group - Thermo Diet Fan Page Youtube Channels: - Christopher Walker - UMZU Health Instagram: - @christopher_walker - @researchcowboy Website: - thermodiet.com https://umzu.com/ Thermo Diet Roadmap
In this episode of the Thermo Diet Podcast, Christopher Walker and Jayton sit down and talk about some of the intricacies of the metabolism and the foundational elements you need and can do in order to optimize your metabolism. Check it out!
In this episode, we answer the remaining questions we got from the facebook group "The Thermo Diet Community Group" about mindset, and how to overcome a lot of the psychological barriers that we all face on a daily basis. Chris ad Jayton give you their thoughts, and tools that they use in order to work through a lot of these challenging things. Check it out and let us know what you think! Facebook Group and Fanpage: - Thermo Diet Community Group - Thermo Diet Fan Page Youtube Channels: - Christopher Walker - UMZU Health Instagram: - @christopher_walker - @researchcowboy Website: - thermodiet.com https://umzu.com/ Thermo Diet Roadmap
In this episode, we answer the remaining questions we got from the facebook group "The Thermo Diet Community Group" about mindset, and how to overcome a lot of the psychological barriers that we all face on a daily basis. Chris ad Jayton give you their thoughts, and tools that they use in order to work through a lot of these challenging things. Check it out and let us know what you think! Facebook Group and Fanpage: - Thermo Diet Community Group - Thermo Diet Fan Page Youtube Channels: - Christopher Walker - UMZU Health Instagram: - @christopher_walker - @researchcowboy Website: - thermodiet.com Thermo Diet Roadmap
In this episode of Ther Thermo Diet Podcast Christopher Walker and Jayton talk about macronutrients and all that encompasses them when it comes to achieving the optimal state of health that is known as Thermo. Facebook Group and Fanpage: - Thermo Diet Community Group - Thermo Diet Fan Page Youtube Channels: - Christopher Walker - UMZU Health Instagram: - @christopher_walker - @researchcowboy Website: - thermodiet.com https://umzu.com/ Thermo Diet Roadmap
In this episode of Ther Thermo Diet Podcast Christopher Walker and Jayton talk about macronutrients and all that encompasses them when it comes to achieving the optimal state of health that is known as Thermo. Facebook Group and Fanpage: - Thermo Diet Community Group - Thermo Diet Fan Page Youtube Channels: - Christopher Walker - UMZU Health Instagram: - @christopher_walker - @researchcowboy Website: - thermodiet.com Thermo Diet Roadmap
this week we’re releasing all of our operation cherrybend episodes. We had the pleasure of having Jason Michael Carroll. We met years ago playing gigs and reconnected at cherrybend a fears back. Follow him @ jasonmichaelcarroll.com for everything. Email the show with suggestions coversongsunday03@gmail.com and follow Sal on all things social media @salgmusic
Tye Scogin drains a buzzer-beating, short jumper to lead Jayton to a thrilling 38-37 win in the UIL state Class 1A semifinal inside the Alamodome in San Antonio. The Jaybirds (26-5) are set to take on Slidell (32-8) at 8:30 a.m. Saturday in the state championship. Credit: Ryne Ruckman, KNNK.
In this episode we chat with Hawksworth sommelier and over all great guy Jayton Paul. Jayton regales us with some pretty hilarious tails of his experiences in the Vancouver hospitality scene and flexes his vast knowledge on not only fine wines but wine culture overall. Jamie and Jayton geek out super hard while Mick tries to keep up, It's a real insight in to world of the Sommelier and vancouver hospitality in general and way more basketball talk goes on than expected.....Jayton is 6ft six so don't ask...
Jayton Baird worked for years to save enough for his powers to be Awakened, becoming a Senturian. Protectors of Terranum from the terrors on the West Side. This power comes with a price - Jayton becomes the most powerful Senturian Awakened in a hundred years. And the most feared.With an invasion imminent and a death sentence over his head, Jayton is chosen to fight in a gladiator style tournament to prevent a potent weapon from falling into the hands of an enemy bent on conquest. A team of elite warriors escorts him on the trek fraught with danger.Can Jayton and his team survive long enough to complete his mission, or will the dark power burning inside consume him?
A couple of years ago when I was a Breakfast Radio Host, i had the priviledge of meeting this little champ, 11 year old Jayton Carter. Jayton like many other Kids in Regional and Metro WA suffers from some harsh health problems. Jayton suffers from Cystic Fibrosis, Club Feet & Gastroschisis. This is a birth defect of the abdominal (belly) wall. The baby's intestines stick outside of the baby's body, through a hole beside the belly button. The hole can be small or large and sometimes other organs, such as the stomach and liver, can also stick outside of the baby's body. (Jayton tells us what that is in the Interview). Jayton was last years Regional Little Telethon Star. This weekend is the HBF Run for a Reason which Jayton, his Mum Lisa and around 30,000 other people are taking part in, including many of the regular guests to Rural Focus. Best of luck to everyone taking part and a big thanks to Jayton for joining me on Rural Focus this morning.
This time the guys Die Harder with special guest Jayton from Villains Never Sleep. The boys make connects to "Coming to America" "Beastmaster" "Trespass" "Terminator 2" "Surrogates" and "Boyz In The Hood". Enjoy this podcast and HO HO HO!
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