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Most business owners think their exit value will come down to EBITDA and an industry multiple. But buyers are not only evaluating what the company earns; they are deciding how much risk they would inherit.  That risk can show up in customer concentration, weak financial reporting, founder dependence, an incomplete leadership team, or a business that has not been prepared to operate without its owner.  In this episode of Money School Elite, I sit down with Mike Bennett, founder of Crewe Capital, to examine what sophisticated buyers actually look for and why strong exits often take years to build.  We also explore why a business does not have one fixed value, how multiple indications of interest can create competitive tension, and why the right buyer may see strategic value that another completely misses.  What You'll Discover In This Episode    Why buyers price a business according to risk, not the effort it took to build The operational weaknesses that can quietly reduce your exit valuation Why founder dependence can make an otherwise profitable company harder to sell How tracking the right KPIs helps you understand whether your business is truly ready for market Why speaking to one buyer can leave significant value on the table How multiple indications of interest reveal what the market actually believes your company is worth Why the highest-value buyer may come from outside the traditional private equity landscape   About the Guest Mike Bennett is the Managing Partner of Crewe Capital. Mr. Bennett held senior positions with three different investment banking firms before this. Mr. Bennett provides capital solutions to middle-market companies and alternative investment advisory to institutional clients. Mr. Bennett has completed over 100 investment banking transactions. Expertise includes mergers, acquisitions, corporate finance, strategic advisory, fundraising, and direct investment in real estate, private equity, and private credit. Mr. Bennett sits on multiple boards and is actively involved in his community by participating in various organizations with a charitable focus. He is a graduate of Brigham Young University and the Saïd Business School at the University of Oxford. To learn more, visit crewe.com and send an email to m@crewe.com.     About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

Most people think the hard part is making money. But Lawrence Dunning's story shows that making money, keeping money, and using money well are three very different things. By 30, Lawrence had built a multi-million-dollar net worth on the trading floor in Chicago. Then he stepped away to pursue a dream that had a much smaller window: becoming a professional MMA fighter. When he came back, the trading business model that had made him wealthy had changed, and the income stream he once relied on was gone. In this episode of Money School Elite, I sit down with Lawrence to talk about what he learned from becoming a millionaire, losing it, rebuilding through real estate, and developing a very different philosophy around money. We get into the difference between being rich and being wealthy, why one revenue stream can create hidden fragility, how risk changes when the goal moves from making money to preserving it, and why the wrong partner can cost more than a bad investment. But this conversation goes beyond money. Lawrence and I also talk about time, fatherhood, health, giving, hard things, and why wealth only becomes meaningful when it helps you build a life you actually want to live.   About the Guest Lawrence Dunning is a real estate investor, broker, entrepreneur, former fixed-income derivatives trader, and former professional MMA fighter. Born and raised in London, England, Lawrence holds both an undergraduate degree and an MBA from the University of Exeter. He began his career in finance as a fixed-income derivatives trader, working in London, Amsterdam, and Wall Street before settling in Chicago, where he traded at the Chicago Board of Trade and eventually founded his own trading company. After beginning his real estate investing journey in 2009, Lawrence shifted his focus fully into real estate and became a full-time broker in 2014. Since then, he has sold more than a quarter of a billion dollars in real estate investment properties and built a diversified portfolio of commercial and residential assets. He specializes in helping investors find turnkey, cash-flow-positive buildings and has been recognized as a Top 1% agent in Chicago for a decade. Lawrence is part of the Dunning Team at Fulton Grace, host of the Enter the Lionheart podcast, and author of The Forgotten Asset Class. He is also a Jiu-Jitsu 3rd Degree Black Belt, bringing a rare perspective on discipline, risk, resilience, money, and what it takes to rebuild after major setbacks. Follow @LawrenceDunning on Instagram.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

Most high-income W-2 earners eventually run into the same problem. Their income gets better, but their structure does not. Airline pilots are one of the clearest examples. They can earn exceptional money, receive strong retirement contributions, and build what looks like a very successful financial life on paper. But as the income grows, so does the constraint: almost all of it is active, highly taxable, and tied to a system that gives them very few levers to pull. And pilots are not the only ones facing this. Doctors, executives, engineers, senior tech employees, corporate leaders, and employees sitting on major equity events can all end up in the same position. A big salary, bonus, liquidity event, or IPO can create life-changing income, but if that income is still flowing through a W-2 structure, the tax problem does not disappear. In many cases, it becomes more obvious. In this episode of Money School Elite, I sit down with Ryan Gibson, former airline pilot and co-founder of Spartan Investment Group, to talk about the difference between earning more money and changing the facts of your financial life. Ryan spent 17 years as an airline pilot before building a self-storage company with 90 facilities, roughly 7.5 million square feet, and about 200 employees. He understands the high-income W-2 problem because he lived it, and his perspective goes beyond simply making more, saving more, or maxing out retirement accounts. We get into why pilots and other high earners often pay more in taxes as their income rises, how strong retirement contributions should change the way they think about excess cash flow, why ownership opens up tax advantages employees often cannot access, and how self-storage can give investors exposure to real estate without buying themselves another job. This is not really a conversation about pilots, and it is not only about self-storage. It is about how high-income earners can turn income into structure, ownership, cash flow, tax efficiency, and long-term financial control.   About the Guest Ryan Gibson is the Co-Founder, President, and Chief Investment Officer of Spartan Investment Group, a commercial real estate firm focused on self-storage and private real estate investment opportunities. A former airline pilot with 17 years of active flying experience, Ryan brings a unique perspective to wealth-building for high-income W-2 professionals, especially pilots who are earning high incomes but often facing significant tax challenges. Through Spartan Investment Group, he helps individual investors access private real estate opportunities designed to create diversification, cash flow, tax advantages, and long-term wealth outside the traditional W-2 and 401(k) framework. Spartan has grown into a national self-storage platform with 90 facilities, roughly 7.5 million square feet, and approximately 200 employees. Ryan's real estate experience spans residential development, self-storage, infill development, finance, sales, marketing, investor relations, tax foreclosures, inherited homes and estates, and real estate syndication. He is also the co-founder of Passive Income Pilots, a platform and podcast that educates pilots and other high-income professionals on passive investing, tax strategy, real estate, and building wealth beyond the paycheck.   Spartan Investment Group: spartan-investors.com Join the Free Academy: ryan@spartan-investors.com Passive Income Pilots Podcast: https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Ryan Gibson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-gibson1/   About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

Most investors assume there are only two practical ways to approach Bitcoin: buy it directly and accept the volatility, or avoid it because it does not fit the framework that built their wealth. But Bitcoin mining introduces a different conversation. For most people, mining sounds too technical, too operationally complex, or too institutional to be a serious investment strategy. Servers, power, cooling, maintenance, custody, and infrastructure all make it feel out of reach for anyone who does not want to become a full-time operator. Beau Turner has built a model that changes that. Through Abundant Mines, investors can buy Bitcoin mining equipment, have it hosted and professionally managed, and receive the Bitcoin produced by their machine directly. That shifts the question from "Should I buy Bitcoin?" to "Can I own the infrastructure that produces it?" In this episode of Money School Elite, Beau breaks down how Bitcoin mining can be structured more like an operating asset than a crypto trade. The conversation covers equipment ownership, production costs, operating margin, tax treatment, custody, and why mining may appeal to investors who already understand real estate, business ownership, and long-term capital strategy.   About the Guest Beau Turner is the CEO of Abundant Mines, a colocation hosting and data center development company that helps investors produce Bitcoin through hands-off, tax-advantaged mining strategies. With a background in Engineering Management and Information Systems from Southern Methodist University, Beau brings a rare combination of technical expertise, real estate development experience, and operational insight to the Bitcoin mining space. Before founding Abundant Mines, he built his own real estate business, where he developed firsthand experience in development, infrastructure, and long-term asset ownership. Today, Beau helps investors access Bitcoin mining without having to manage the technical complexity themselves. Through Abundant Mines, clients can own mining equipment hosted in professionally managed data centers, allowing them to participate in Bitcoin production while outsourcing the operational burden. Abundant Mines operates multiple proprietary data centers in Oregon powered by sustainable hydroelectric energy, with development experience across the U.S. and internationally. Beau's work focuses on helping investors create passive income, accumulate Bitcoin, and build long-term wealth through professionally structured mining strategies. Learn more and book a call: https://abundantmines.com/ Learn more on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AbundantMines/.     About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

Most business owners do not realize they have outgrown their accountant until the tax bill becomes impossible to ignore. The person who helped you when the business was small may have been perfectly fine at that stage. But as revenue, profit, assets, investments, and complexity grow, tax preparation is no longer enough. At a certain point, the business does not just need someone to file the return. It needs real tax planning. In this episode of Money School Elite, I sit down with Boris Musheyev, a tax strategist who works with seven-figure and multi-seven-figure business owners, to talk about the difference between having a tax preparer and having a tax advisor. Boris explains why so many business owners are introduced to "tax planning" too late in the year, why retirement contributions are not a complete strategy, and why your advisor needs to understand the level of income, complexity, and tax exposure you are dealing with. We also get into some of the bigger structural strategies business owners should understand, including real estate, short-term rentals, oil and gas, charitable giving, donor-advised funds, and the importance of choosing strategies that fit your actual business and goals.   About the Guest  Boris Musheyev is the owner of BORISMTAX, a tax and accounting firm specializing in tax planning and strategy for entrepreneurs and business owners. They use proven tax strategies to save their clients tens of thousands of dollars on taxes every year when implemented correctly. BORISMTAX personalizes each strategy to ensure that their client's family and business situation is thoroughly examined to maximize tax savings. Their team is made up of high-performing professionals who take diligence and care in every step of the process when handling clients' taxes. They believe that accounting is more than just being correct; it's being strategic, proactive, and maximizing tax savings. In our firm, we have one goal and one goal only: to commit to doing everything in our power to help our clients to LEGALLY reduce taxes and take home more of their hard-earned money. Free Training: save100know.com  Boris M. Tax: https://borismtax.com/ Boris Musheyev on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/boris-musheyev-cpa/   About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

In this episode of "The Money Mentor," Rachael sits down with Luke and Kellie - and this one carries an important warning for anyone who has ever placed their trust in the wrong hands. In 2017, they did everything by the book - hired a financial planner and followed professional advice to the letter. They were advised to sell their house and ‘rentvest'. Years later, sick of renting and moving multiple times they realised they wanted stability for their children and a home of their own. They had solid careers, worked hard, but with a new home and large mortgage, they still felt they could never get ahead. When interest rates started climbing, the fear became very real, and without a budget to fall back on, the cracks began to show. Luke and Kellie had grown up in families where finances were always a struggle, and they knew they wanted to build a brighter future for their children. Then an Instagram ad changed everything. One Infinity webinar was all it took - Kellie was sold and she quickly brought Luke on board. What followed was nothing short of a transformation. A $528,000 mortgage on their home was reduced to just $20,000 in just three years. They now have four investment properties, and a portfolio worth five million dollars. But Luke and Kellie are quick to point out that the biggest shift wasn't in their bank account - it was in their mindset. For the first time, they stopped hoping their future would work out and started building it with intention. Luke and Kellie didn't need more advice. They needed the right advice - and everything changed when they found it.Ready to change your financial future?

Most investors think wholesaling is just the entry-level side of real estate. At the strategic level, the better conversation is about deal flow. Because in a market where seller motivation is rising, buyers are more selective, and many casual wholesalers have left the business, the opportunity is different from what it was a few years ago. The edge is not simply finding properties. It is knowing how to identify distress, control the contract, understand buyer demand, and move before the rest of the market sees the opportunity. That is where wholesaling becomes more interesting than most investors assume. A lot of people dismiss it because it can be transactional. And if the business depends entirely on chasing the next assignment fee, that criticism is fair. But when it is built as a system, wholesaling can become a deal-flow engine — one that creates income, sharpens acquisition judgment, and gives investors a first look at opportunities they may eventually want to own. In this episode of Money School Elite, I sit down with Chris Logan to talk about why this may be one of the strongest wholesaling windows in years, how virtual wholesaling has changed the game, and why motivated seller access matters more than ever. This is not a conversation about quick cash. It is about using wholesaling to build access, discipline, and opportunity in today's real estate market.   About the Guest Chris Logan is the Co-Founder of Virtual Wholesaling Made Simple, where he helps aspiring real estate investors learn how to wholesale their first house virtually. Through his simple, action-focused approach, Chris shows people how to find motivated sellers, build buyer relationships, and land deals without needing a team, prior experience, or a large marketing budget. He is especially passionate about helping people get started while they still have full-time jobs, showing them how to build momentum with practical systems, consistent conversations, and as little as $1,000 a month in marketing. His work is designed to make virtual wholesaling accessible, repeatable, and realistic for people who want to use real estate as a path toward higher income, freedom, and long-term opportunity. To join the Facebook group, visit virtualwholesalingmadesimple.com/joingroup or find Chris on Facebook or Instagram.   About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast      

In this episode of "The Money Mentor," Podcast Rachael sits down with Kale and Grace - and if you are young and wondering whether now is the right time to get serious about money, this episode is for you. At twenty-six and twenty seven, they had done something many their age only talk about - they got into the property market. But six months in, with a sizeable mortgage, almost nothing in savings, a wedding on the horizon, and a social circle with very different priorities, anxiety started to creep in. They looked around and found nobody in their world having the same conversation. Then they found Infinity - and the professional advice they needed to move forward without fear. What followed was a masterclass in what is possible when young people choose differently. Almost $100,000 stripped from their mortgage and two investment properties secured. Not only did Kale and Grace find the professionals, at Infinity they discovered a supportive community of people who share their goals, and who freely talk about the oddly taboo topic - wealth creation. In this episode Kale and Grace share what it feels like to swim against the tide, how they kept each other motivated, and what they would say to every young couple sitting on the fence right now. Kale and Grace didn't wait - and now they are unstoppable.Ready to change your financial future?

In this episode of "The Money Mentor," G sits down with Liv and Jamie, and this one is a lot of fun - full of honesty, humour and some damn good advice. Liv and Jamie are two youngbusiness owners who have been on a wild ride since they found Infinity sixteen months ago. From the outside, their lavish lifestyle looked picture perfect. But their business books told a different story, and the numbers were scary.Over $627,000 in bad debt and a $155,000 overdraft maxed to the limit, the couple felt caught in quicksand with no way out. They had no common goals, no transparency and communication around finances was non-existent - and with the financial tension growing, something had to give. Then Liv found Infinity, and with it the advice and structure they desperately needed. Now, with the overdraft wiped, credit cards gone and toys sold, they have a shared budget andgoals in place. $382,000 of debt has been cleared and the couple now have three investment properties in their corner. Jamie opens up to G about taking brutally honest feedback on board and making big changes - and Liv could not beprouder. They also put G on the spot, asking for his take on building a life and a business alongside a partner, drawing on his own journey with Bec. Spoiler - he delivers. Liv and Jamie are just getting started - and now they have a whole community behind them to help them keep it real.

In today's market, investors with real capital are facing a difficult problem. They do not want to be reckless. Equities feel expensive, private credit has shown signs of stress, rates remain elevated, and the usual recession signals have been flashing for longer than many expected. But they also do not want to hide in safety so long that they give up years of compounding. That is where the conversation around risk has to get more precise. The question is not simply whether to be in or out of the market. It is how to structure capital so you can stay rational, preserve optionality, and still earn meaningful returns. In this episode of Money School Elite, I sit down with Tad Fallows, co-founder of Long Angle, a peer-to-peer community for first-generation wealth creators, entrepreneurs, executives, and investors with significant investable assets. Tad brings a useful perspective on how high-net-worth investors are thinking about allocation, liquidity, leverage, public equities, private markets, and risk in the current environment. We talk about why dry powder is not just defensive, why owning stocks only works if you still think like an owner, and why diversification should reduce fragility, not simply lower returns. This is not a conversation about predicting the next recession. It is a conversation about building the structure, discipline, and decision-making framework required when capital is actually at stake.   About the Guest Tad Fallows is an entrepreneur, investor, and co-founder of Long Angle, a peer-to-peer community for first-generation wealth creators and high-net-worth investors. Before starting Long Angle, Tad spent 10 years building a SaaS company, taking it from the startup stage through growth to a successful acquisition. That experience gave him firsthand insight into the pressure of building a company, managing concentrated risk, and eventually making the transition from operator to capital allocator after a liquidity event. After his exit, Tad began navigating the questions many successful entrepreneurs face once their wealth becomes more complex: how to allocate capital, manage portfolio risk, think about taxes and estate planning, evaluate private markets, raise children with wealth, and find advice that is both sophisticated and unbiased. That journey led him to co-found Long Angle, a community designed for people with meaningful capital who want peer-driven insight rather than sales-driven financial advice. Today, Tad works closely with entrepreneurs, executives, investors, and other first-generation wealth creators, giving him a unique view into how high-net-worth individuals think about risk, liquidity, ownership, leverage, and long-term wealth stewardship. Visit longangle.com to learn more, or https://www.longangle.com/apply to apply or connect with Tad on LinkedIn.   About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

In this episode of "The Money Mentor," Donovan and Steph join Rachel for an unfiltered conversation - honest, funny, and at times hilarious - and above all, inspiring. Before settling down, they were free-spirited travellers who lived well and spent freely - and when kids came along, the habits didn't change much. After fifteen years of strong FIFO income, they had very little to show for it. What nagged at Donovan was watching his own parents fall back into mortgage debt in their fifties - he knew he wanted to build security for his family's financial future but had no idea where to start. Then they found Infinity and connected instantly with Graeme's straight-talking style and the logic of the Infinity way. The mindset shift was swift and the results followed - debt cleared within weeks, a financial plan that could weather life's surprises, and a property portfolio now sitting at two million dollars with $800,000 in equity. But the transformation didn't stop there. Steph has found her way into meaningful work she genuinely loves, and Donovan has embraced the Infinity community wholeheartedly - completing 60 Strong and arriving at a version of himself he's proud to show off at the gym. Two people, fully committed, living proof that the right shift in thinking changes everything.

In this episode of "The Money Mentor," we speak to Belinda and Josef, two hardworking parents who, despite good incomes, found themselves caught in the refinancing trap, their home loan growing heavier year after year. No savings, no investments, and a bank eager to refinance them into another thirty years of debt to cover renovations and wedding expenses - they were heading in the wrong direction. Then they did the maths and said no. In February 2017 they met Graeme and discovered Infinity, and for the first time had the structure and budget that had been missing all along. The wedding happened. The renovations happened. Holidays happened. Every bit of it paid for in full, without taking on a cent of new debt. But the change didn't stop at their finances. Belinda and Josef embraced a complete lifestyle shift, one that has brought significant health benefits for them both and transformed the way they live day to day. Nine years on, they have reduced their debt by $589,000, built a portfolio of seven investment properties worth over ten million dollars, and never looked back. Belinda and Josef didn't need more debt. They needed a better offer - and they found one.

For many business owners, one of the biggest missed wealth opportunities may already be sitting inside the business. Technology upgrades, software implementation, equipment, and operational improvements. These are the kinds of investments owners are already making to grow, modernize, and stay competitive. But in many cases, they may not just be expenses or deductions. They may create R&D tax credits. A deduction lowers taxable income. A credit can reduce taxes dollar for dollar. For an owner with meaningful income, that is not a small accounting detail. It is capital that can stay inside the system, be redeployed, invested, protected, or used to build long-term personal wealth. Wealth does not only leak through bad investments. It also leaks through taxes that were never strategically addressed, retirement income plans that rely too heavily on average returns, and capital that leaves the system before it ever has the chance to compound. The question is not simply how much money you make, how much you save, or whether the market performs over time. It is how much capital you actually keep, how intelligently that capital is structured, and whether your wealth plan can hold up when taxes, volatility, timing, and life events collide. Derick Van Ness is the founder of Big Life Financial, where he helps business owners turn business income into personal freedom, long-term security, and legacy through advanced tax and financial strategies. In this episode, he breaks down why R&D tax credits are not just for laboratories, tech companies, or large corporations. We also talk about the retirement problem many investors underestimate: not whether markets go up over time, but what happens when you need income during a down year and are forced to sell impaired assets. Derick walks through how volatility buffers can help protect income planning when timing, markets, and withdrawals collide.   About the Guest Derick Van Ness is the founder of Big Life Financial, where he helps business owners turn business income into personal freedom, long-term security, and legacy through advanced tax and financial strategies. Derick specializes in working with small business owners, including dentists, chiropractors, auto shop owners, and other service-based entrepreneurs who are earning well but may not yet have the systems in place to turn income into lasting wealth. His work focuses on helping owners reduce unnecessary tax leakage, uncover overlooked opportunities, and build strategies that allow more capital to stay productive. Over the course of his career, Derick has worked with more than 2,500 businesses across the U.S., identifying strategies many owners never see and helping them create stronger financial outcomes. His perspective is especially useful for business owners who want to move beyond simply making money in the business and start using the business as a vehicle for personal freedom, wealth preservation, and legacy. Get an R&D tax credit estimate: https://biglifefinancial.com/money-school-credits Learn more about Big Life Financial: https://biglifefinancial.com/       About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

In this episode of "The Money Mentor," Rachel sits down with Jeff and Denise, two healthcare professionals who, on paper, had done everything right - solid careers, no bad debt, and a cherished family home they'd built themselves. But after decades of hard work, they couldn't shake the feeling they weren't actually getting anywhere. They'd tried to chart their own course - selling an investment property just before it took off, setting up an SMSF with the wrong guidance, and absorbing endless books and podcasts that left them with more confusion than clarity. Then six years ago, Denise found Infinity, and Jeff, seeing the shift in her thinking, was quickly on board too. Denise likens their old approach to driving with an old paper map for directions, unsure if you're even headed the right way. With Infinity, she says, it's more like having a chauffeur - you simply say where you want to go, and they figure out how to get you there. The results speak for themselves: credit cards cleared, a proper budget in place, four investment properties, and a fully paid-off family home. They haven't stopped living either, travelling extensively with full confidence and zero guilt. Jeff and Denise share their story of success and how finding Infinity gave them access to expert advice and changed their family's forever.

How do you build better money habits, overcome money shame and make smarter financial decisions? In this episode of Money Tales, money mentor Anne Lester explains why financial success isn’t about having more willpower. It’s about understanding the psychology behind your financial decisions. Whether you’re navigating your first paycheck, paying off debt, trying to save more or planning for retirement, Anne shares practical insights to help Millennials, Gen Z and anyone looking to build lasting financial confidence. Fresh out of college, Anne thought she was doing everything right. She had landed her first job, was earning a paycheck and was building an independent life. Yet she was also carrying credit card debt, struggling to save while making financial choices that felt right in the moment. Those experiences eventually shaped a career spent helping people prepare for retirement and build healthier relationships with money. In this conversation, Anne talks about the lessons she learned from her own mistakes and why building a better financial life starts with understanding yourself. About Anne Lester: Money Mentor and Financial Wellness Advocate Anne Lester is the Money Mentor for Gen Z and Millennials. She is helping a generation of young adults, and those who serve and employ them, turn money shame into money power – so they can live their best life and do their best work now. Her research for the award-winning book, Your Best Financial Life: Save Smart Now for the Future You Want, revealed that only 17% of GenZ and Millennials are confident in their money plan and on track to retire. The difference? They had a money mentor growing up. Anne earned the 2020 Lillywhite Award for lifetime contributions to Americans' economic security. During three decades at J.P. Morgan Chase, she launched and ran the SmartRetirement Target Date funds and Income Builder fund, and was named Morningstar's Asset Allocator of the Year in 2014. She's a trusted keynote speaker, emcee, and media guest for audiences ranging from employees and professionals to Bloomberg TV, Barron's, CNBC, Forbes, The Wall Street Journal, and The New York Times. Looking for more practical guidance? Aspiriant’s advisors regularly write about the habits and decisions that build long-term financial confidence. If you’re just getting started, explore 4 Financial Tips for Young Adults for foundational advice on saving, credit and investing. You can also read The Road to Financial Wellness, which offers practical strategies for developing healthy financial habits and creating a sustainable approach to managing your money. Together, these resources reinforce one of Anne’s central messages: lasting financial success begins with small, intentional choices—not perfection. Follow Money Tales on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or YouTube Music for more real stories that inspire thoughtful, intentional decisions about money.

Most investors think real estate performance comes down to the asset. At the high-net-worth level, the more important conversation is often about control. Because a deal is not just a building, a market, or a projected return. It is an operating system. Who manages the property? Who controls leasing, maintenance, marketing, resident communication, and costs at the asset level? Who can make decisions quickly when the market tightens, and the assumptions in the original deck no longer hold? That is where real estate investing starts to look very different. A lot of investors were comfortable allocating capital during the easy-money years because deals looked strong, liquidity was flowing, and exits felt predictable. But in a tighter market, the difference between passive ownership and true operating control becomes much more obvious. In this episode of Money School Elite, I sit down with Michael Pouliot of Carbon Real Estate Investments to talk about workforce housing, vertical integration, AI, capital raising, and what real estate operators need to get right in the current cycle. Michael brings a rare combination of Wall Street training, real estate operating experience, and long-term ownership thinking. This is not a conversation about chasing yield or finding the next hot deal. It is about how serious investors should evaluate structure, execution, risk, and time horizon before they put capital to work.   About the Guest Michael Pouliot is the CIO of Carbon Real Estate Investments, where he helps acquire and operate workforce apartment communities across the Southeast, with a focus on 100–300 unit B/C-class properties in secondary markets where institutional capital rarely competes. Michael brings a rare combination of Wall Street training and hands-on real estate operating experience. As a CFA and CAIA charterholder, he spent his early career analyzing distressed assets for Blackstone, Merrill Lynch, and notable family offices, as well as allocating capital for J.P. Morgan's Private Bank. Over the past 15 years, he has built institutional-grade underwriting and operational systems for middle-market multifamily investments. That combination of analytical rigor and operating discipline has helped generate 20%+ IRRs across 15+ repositioned assets, more than 3,000 units, and over $75 million in equity successfully deployed and managed. At Carbon, Michael and his team focus on acquiring underperforming workforce apartment communities in Sunbelt secondary markets. They create value through vertical integration, professional management, capital-efficient renovations, and disciplined operations. Website: investwithcarbon.com Podcast: Deal Flow Connect with Michael on LinkedIn.   About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

In this episode of "The Money Mentor," Rachel sits down with Ebony, who faced one of life's hardest resets when her marriage ended and she became a single mother with an eight-month-old and a toddler. She chose to rebuild, but the road was far from straightforward. Back at work early, she purchased her first home in 2018, a rundown property that needed work before she could move her children in. Building on her success she wanted to think bigger, but as a single mother with dependants she hit walls at every turn. When the banks wrote her off she went searching for another way, and found Infinity. In just twelve months, Ebony has gone from being told property investing wasn't possible to having an SMSF property investment and a dual occupancy build underway. With Infinity's guidance her home loan has been slashed from $259,000 to $79,000 and is on track to be completely cleared within the next 12 months. When others said it couldn't be done, Infinity helped her prove them wrong. Sit back and listen to Ebony describe the year that has changed the trajectory of her family's future.

In this episode of "The Money Mentor," Daniel and Sarah sit down with G for their second appearance on the podcast first appearing in Series 3, Episode 4, June 13th, 2025. A young family with steady careers and every intention of getting ahead, they spent ten years watching their debt not just stand still, but grow. Borrowing against their home had taken what they owed to nearly $685,000, leaving them caught in a revolving cycle of credit cards and mortgage payments that felt like running on a treadmill. It took Daniel finding Infinity in 2020 to break the pattern. Infinity gave them the structure and strategy they had been missing, and the impact rippled through every corner of their lives - their wellbeing, their outlook, and even the way their children relate to money. Fast forward to today and the picture looks entirely different. Seven investment properties, $7.5 million in assets, and a dream home they call their own. In this episode they share where life has taken them since, the next goal in their sights, and what being part of the Infinity community has meant to them - a network that has become more like family than anything else. This is what happens when the right plan meets the right people.PART 1: Turning Doubt into Wealth | CHANGING LIVES | SEASON 3 Episode 5 | Daniel & Sarah | Money Mentor Podcast - Money Mentor Podcast | Podcast on Spotify

In this episode of "The Money Mentor," we speak to Carlos and Lynell, whose story begins with a decision many families face - to have Lynell stay home and raise their daughters, leaving the family on a single income. They saved diligently, built up a $100,000 deposit, and still the banks turned them away. Priced out and frustrated, it seemed like homeownership was simply not on the cards. That changed in 2013, when G came to their home and did something no one else had - he sat with them, listened, and built a strategy around their actual life. A different way into the market, tools and incentives most people never discover, and a long-term plan they could believe in. Fast forward to now - they are not just in the property market, they have paid off the family home, have two investment properties, and have built the kind of intergenerational wealth that families dream of. Carlos and Lynell joined Infinity in the early days, theirs is a story of patience, trust in the process, and proof that walking through the right door can open up the world.Ready to change your financial future?

Most people think franchising is about income replacement. At the high-net-worth level, the real conversation is about enterprise value. Because the operators who approach franchising seriously are not just trying to buy themselves a business. They are thinking about cash flow, unit economics, operational infrastructure, EBITDA growth, private equity demand, and whether the business can eventually become attractive to a larger buyer. And once you understand that, the way you evaluate franchising starts to change. Most franchise buyers don't miss the opportunity because they fail to recognize a good brand. They miss it because they evaluate the opportunity too narrowly. They look at the concept, the customer demand, and the upfront cost, but they do not always understand how to vet the system, read the disclosure data, identify red flags, or think through the exit before they get in. In this episode of Money School Elite, I sit down with Scott Jones of Franchise Guide Group to unpack how serious operators and high-net-worth investors should think about franchising as a wealth-building vehicle. Scott has owned 10 franchises himself, advised operators for more than 20 years, and worked across the franchisee, franchisor, and supplier sides of the industry. And in this conversation, he breaks down how to evaluate franchising through the lens of diligence, capital efficiency, scale, cash flow, and private equity exit potential.   About the Guest Scott Jones is the founder of Franchise Guide Group, where he helps high-achieving professionals, business owners, executives, and franchise operators evaluate franchise opportunities that align with their experience, goals, and long-term vision. With more than 30 years of business experience, Scott has worked as a CEO, franchise executive, entrepreneur, and multi-unit, multi-brand franchisee. He has helped hundreds of people explore franchising as a path to income diversification, career transition, business ownership, and greater personal freedom. Through Franchise Guide Group, Scott brings a practical, operator-level perspective to the franchise selection process, helping clients understand which opportunities fit their background, interests, capital, and desired outcomes. For Money School Elite listeners, Scott created a dedicated page where you can take the quiz, learn more, and schedule a call: https://connect.franchiseguidegroup.com/ms. You can also follow Scott on Instagram: @‌franchiseguidegroup.   About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

In this episode of "The Money Mentor," we speak to Dennis and Mary, who have flown in from their home in Western Australia's Pilbara to join Rachel for a chat about their remarkable journey over the past year. Relative newcomers to the Infinity community, in just a few months Dennis and Mary have turned their financial fortunes around. Before Infinity, they were working and earning well but could not seem to get ahead. They were in their 50s with $22,000 in credit card debt, an oppressive 30-year mortgage on the family home and were constantly worried about the future. They knew property was the answer, but when they sought advice, they were offered nothing but roadblocks. Then they found Infinity, and for the first time, someone showed them it could be done. With a clear plan in place, they cleared their debt, restructured their mortgage, and now have two investment properties, and the future looks bright. Dennis and Mary share their story of hope, and be warned, it gets emotional. Their story is proof that with the right advice, dedication, and faith in the process, anything is possible. Ready to change your financial future?

In this episode of The Money Mentor, Brendon and Matt are back for Part Two and the update is nothing short of remarkable. They returned from Europe in 2017 with unforgettable memories and $60,000 in credit card debt. The couple realised something had to change. Eight months of brutal discipline later, they had saved a full house deposit and had a hunger to do more. By November 2022, they had another $100,000 in savings but no clear direction until a late night webinar caught their eye and their Infinity journey began. When they last sat down with G, their story was already extraordinary, six investment properties and a mortgage nearly paid off. Now they're back with seven investment properties, a home loan sitting at just $42,000, and an August wedding being planned, on a budget and entirely on their own terms. Matt is studying for his master's in social work, and with their mortgage almost gone, the couple are now dreaming bigger than ever. In this episode they share the habits and mindset shifts that got them here, and the tips they'd pass on to anyone ready to take control of their finances. Brendon and Matt are back. And their story just keeps getting better.Ready to change your financial future?

Most investors think wealth preservation is about performance. At the high-net-worth level, the real conversation is about structure. Because the families that keep wealth across generations are not just trying to get better returns. They are thinking about education, tax strategy, access, capital protection, charitable planning, and the systems required to make wealth last beyond one person's lifetime. And once you understand that, the way you evaluate wealth starts to change. Most successful investors don't lose wealth because they have never learned how to make money. They lose it because the structure around the money was never built to preserve it. The next generation inherits assets without inheriting judgment. Tax strategy gets treated like an afterthought instead of part of the portfolio. And high-income earners often assume better tax outcomes require extreme lifestyle disruption, when the real issue may be access to more sophisticated planning. In this episode of Money School Elite, I sit down with Mark Miller of Hilton Wealth and the Hilton Family Office to unpack how wealthy families actually think about preserving capital, reducing tax drag, and building systems that last. Mark works inside the family office world, where the conversation is not about chasing returns. It is about protecting wealth, structuring it intelligently, and making sure the capital and the knowledge behind it survive over time.   About the Guest  Mark Miller is the co-founder of Hilton Tax & Wealth Advisors alongside Bradley J. Hilton, grandson of Conrad Hilton, and a partner in bringing family office-level wealth strategies to investors, business owners, and high-net-worth families. Mark's work focuses on helping clients understand how the wealthy preserve capital, reduce tax drag, structure portfolios, and build long-term wealth with the same principles used inside family office environments. He has been featured in Kiplinger's, The New York Times, Fox News, and more than 200 national outlets, and was honored as a Presidential Businessman of the Year with personal recognition from President George W. Bush. He is also the author of Hilton Wealth: How to Invest Like an American Dynasty and The Tax-Free Business Owner. To learn more, request a complimentary copy of Mark's books, or book a call with Hilton Wealth, visit http://HiltonWealth.com.   About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

If you think life insurance is about protection, you'll miss what it can do at a high net worth level.  For wealthy investors, business owners, and families with meaningful assets, the question is not just where to invest. It is where long-term capital should sit, how it should be owned, how it should grow, how private it should remain, and how efficiently it can move to the next generation. That is where Private Placement Life Insurance, or PPLI, changes the conversation. Most investors dismiss life insurance because they think they already understand it. They picture ordinary policies, limited investment options, and a product built mainly around a death benefit. But at the high end, that framework is incomplete. PPLI is not ordinary life insurance. For the right investor, it can function as a long-term asset structure, allowing capital to grow in a tax-advantaged environment, support estate planning, simplify reporting, preserve privacy, and create a more strategic way to hold assets over time. In this episode of Money School Elite, I sit down with Mike Malloy to unpack how PPLI actually works, why wealthy families use it, and why the structure around an asset can matter just as much as the asset itself. Mike works with high-net-worth clients, families, and advisors on advanced tax and estate planning strategies using Private Placement Life Insurance. In this conversation, he explains why PPLI is not simply about buying insurance.  It is about building a structure around long-term capital, especially for investors who have already used the obvious planning tools and need a more sophisticated way to think about tax efficiency, privacy, liquidity, and wealth transfer.   About the Guest  Michael Malloy is a founding partner of EWP Financial. With decades of experience helping global families and advisors use PPLI and Expanded Worldwide Planning to enhance tax efficiency, asset protection, and compliance. To learn more, visit https://www.ewp-financial.com/ or call 530-692-1007.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast

Most high earners think wealth is built by earning more, saving more, and staying disciplined within the traditional financial system. At the high-net-worth level, the real conversation is structure. Because the issue is not always income. It is where the capital sits, how it is taxed, how accessible it is, how many jobs each dollar is doing, and whether there is an actual architecture around the wealth being built. Without that, even people making good money can still feel behind, overtaxed, overexposed, and dependent on a system they do not really control. Most investors follow the conventional path because it feels responsible. Max out the 401(k). Build home equity. Defer taxes. Keep money in the market. And to be fair, that advice is not irrational. It is familiar, simple, and widely accepted. But it may also be incomplete for people who want real control, liquidity, cash flow, and long-term freedom. In this episode of Money School Elite, I sit down with Dave Wolcott, Founder and CEO of Pantheon Investments, to unpack how wealthy investors think about capital differently. Dave spent the last 25 years studying how the top 1% actually build wealth, and his perspective is not about chasing returns or rejecting every traditional strategy. It is about building the infrastructure around your capital: tax planning, asset repositioning, private investments, liquidity, relationship capital, and making every dollar work across multiple dimensions. He shares how wealthy investors build infrastructure around their capital, reposition idle assets, and make every dollar work across multiple dimensions.   About the Guest  Dave Wolcott is the Founder and CEO of Pantheon Investments and the author of The Holistic Wealth Strategy. After leaving the Marine Corps and entering corporate America, Dave found himself earning well but still questioning whether the traditional financial path could actually create lasting wealth. That question became personal when, at 26, he had an 18-month-old toddler and newborn triplets, and the only advice he received from his financial advisor was to max out his 401(k) and fund 529 plans. That experience sent Dave on a 25-year journey to study how the top 1% actually build, protect, and multiply wealth. Through Pantheon Investments, he helps investors think beyond conventional retirement planning and build a more intentional wealth architecture around tax strategy, private markets, liquidity, asset repositioning, and capital efficiency. Dave's work focuses on helping high earners move from simply making money to building a coordinated wealth system, one that gives them greater control, stronger cash flow, and the ability to make every dollar work across multiple dimensions. Get Dave's book for free: holisticwealthstrategy.com. Connect with Dave on LinkedIn, and follow him on Instagram. Learn more about Pantheon Investments: https://pantheoninvest.com/.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

When your income starts to scale, the instinct is to focus on earning more and delegate everything else. You build momentum, create cash flow, and then hand your capital over to advisors, funds, and institutions that are supposed to manage it efficiently in the background. The system looks sophisticated, regulated, and optimized, so it feels like the right move. But what many high-income earners and investors don't realize is that the biggest risk to their wealth often isn't the market… It's the structure their money sits inside. Because once capital is placed into systems you don't fully understand, small decisions start compounding in almost invisible ways. Fees that seem insignificant begin to erode long-term growth.  Portfolios that look diversified turn out to be overlapping and inefficient. And over time, instead of compounding wealth, you're quietly leaking it. In this episode of Money School Elite, I sit down with Robert Rolih, investor, entrepreneur, and author of The Million Dollar Decision, to break down what really happens to your money after you've made it. In this conversation, we discuss why small, seemingly harmless fees can significantly delay your financial freedom, how a lack of visibility into your own portfolio creates hidden risk, and why many investors don't actually know what they own. About the Guest    Robert Rolih is an entrepreneur, bestselling author, and long-term investing expert known for exposing Wall Street's hidden traps and teaching investors how to simplify wealth building. He is the international bestselling author of The Million Dollar Decision: Get Out of the Rigged Game of Investing and Add a Million to Your Net Worth, a book that has received glowing reviews from readers around the world. His mission is to reveal what the financial industry doesn't want you to know about investing, helping people greatly improve their long-term investing gains and take control of their financial future. Today, Robert has a thriving investment portfolio that serves him, not the financial industry. As a sought-after speaker, he shares his expertise with audiences worldwide, helping people avoid costly mistakes and achieve financial freedom. His ability to break down complex financial concepts into simple, engaging lessons and make investing interesting and fun has become his trademark. Robert was featured in more than 50 newspapers, websites, and TV stations, including CNBC, Yahoo Finance, Newsmax TV, Business Insider, and has had the honor of sharing the stage with renowned figures such as Robert Kiyosaki, Gary Vaynerchuk, Brian Tracy, Jack Canfield, Daniel Priestley, and many others. His international bestseller The Million Dollar Decision has been translated into several languages, including Chinese Mandarin, and published in special editions in countries such as India, Taiwan, Bulgaria, and Thailand. To get a free chapter of Robert's bestselling book, go to https://robertrolih.com/ or buy the book here. You can also join Robert's free masterclass when you go to https://robertrolih.com/masterclass.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

Most people treat taxes as a cost. Something to minimize, settle, and handle once the year is done. But what if that framing is the problem? What if you start treating your tax burden like a profit center, instead? By making that shift, taxes stop being about what you owe and start becoming a question of where that capital should actually go. In this episode of Money School Elite, I sit down with Mark Myers to unpack how that shift plays out in practice, and what it looks like to operate at the strategic layer of tax planning rather than just the compliance layer most people are familiar with. Mark works with high-income earners and business owners who are already doing everything right on paper, but haven't been exposed to the kinds of strategies that sit above traditional planning. In this conversation, we get into how solar can be used to replace a tax payment with an income-producing asset, how multiple layers of tax treatment can be stacked within a single strategy, and how the sale of a business can be structured to defer and control the tax event.    About the Guest  Mark is a Tax Savings Architect and the founder of TaxWise Partners. He brings over 20 years of successful business operation and high-level consulting experience to the table for the clients and financial professionals he serves. Mark employs the same discipline and tenacity in finding tax savings as he did serving his country as a former Marine Corps Sergeant in Bravo Company, 4th Marine Division.  Semper Fi! TaxWise Partners and its affiliate partners have helped thousands of individuals increase profit and permanently reduce their annual tax bill to enable them to better grow their business and accelerate their wealth. If you want to see what this could look like in your own situation, go to taxwisepartners.com, book a free consultation here to get your Tax Savings Blueprint. You can also reach out directly at mark@taxwisepartners.com.     About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

Diversification sounds straightforward in theory, but in practice, portfolios don't behave the way most people expect them to. Exposure is layered, concentration often shows up in places that aren't immediately obvious, and decisions that feel like you're spreading risk can quietly lead to doubling down on the same themes. Once you start looking at portfolios this way, the question shifts. It's no longer just about what to add, but whether that exposure already exists, and what role it's actually playing. In this episode of Money School Elite, I sit down with Jonathan Steele, who manages over $1.3 billion in assets, to unpack how modern portfolios are actually structured and why many of the assumptions investors rely on don't always hold up. Jonathan works closely with high-net-worth clients, helping them think about capital not as a collection of individual positions, but as a system of exposures that interact in ways that aren't always obvious. We get into why Bitcoin and precious metals are often grouped incorrectly, how indirect exposure through index positions can lead to unintended concentration, and why holding cash in the current environment is less about being defensive and more about maintaining flexibility while still earning a return.   About the Guest  Jonathan Steele, CFA®, is Co-founder and Chief Investment Officer at One Wealth Advisors, where he leads investment research and portfolio management for high-net-worth clients. With over 20 years of experience, Jonathan specializes in portfolio construction, tactical and strategic asset allocation, and behavioral finance. As a Chartered Financial Analyst® and member of the CFA Institute, his work focuses on how portfolios are structured and how different exposures interact within a broader system. Outside of investing, Jonathan is deeply involved in the arts, having served on the advisory boards of Bard Music West and Vanguard Music and Performing Arts. He also mentors students across finance, technology, and engineering, and supports local organizations, including Muttville Senior Dog Rescue and the SF SPCA. To learn more, go to https://onewealth.net/.   About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

Most investors think Bitcoin is about price. At the high-net-worth level, a far more important conversation is happening around taxes. Because Bitcoin isn't treated like a stock or a business. It's treated as property. And that classification opens up strategies around taxation and capital movement that simply don't exist in traditional asset classes. And once you understand that, the way you evaluate Bitcoin starts to change. Most high-net-worth investors don't dismiss Bitcoin because they don't understand it. They dismiss it because, from where they sit, it doesn't meet the standard. If your entire framework is built on fundamentals, intrinsic value, and cash flow, Bitcoin feels like a contradiction. It's volatile, it doesn't produce income, and it doesn't behave like the assets that built their wealth. But that framework may be incomplete. In this episode of Money School Elite, I sit down with Eric Runge to unpack how Bitcoin is actually being used inside high-net-worth portfolios, and why the conversation at that level looks very different from what most investors see. Eric works directly with family offices and high-net-worth investors, helping them think about capital, risk, and structure beyond traditional asset classes. And in this conversation, he breaks down how Bitcoin fits into that picture, not as a speculative bet, but as a strategic layer.   About the Guest  Eric Runge is an RIA working with family offices to build capital preservation and tax strategies using Bitcoin, an approach that challenges how most investors think about the asset entirely. He is the founder of Veritas Bitcoin Strategies, a registered investment adviser focused on integrating Bitcoin into high-net-worth portfolios through risk-managed, long-term allocation frameworks. With over 20 years in financial markets, Eric works with families and sophisticated investors who aren't looking to speculate, but to understand how digital assets can be positioned within a broader strategy focused on preservation, structure, and tax efficiency. His work sits at the intersection of traditional wealth management and emerging monetary systems, helping investors rethink where Bitcoin fits, not as a trade, but as a strategic layer inside a portfolio. To learn, send an email to eric@veritaswealth.net.      About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

Most people don't realize that a large portion of real wealth is created before companies ever reach the public markets. In private companies, early-stage investments, and entrepreneurial ventures, growth happens the fastest. For a long time, that part of the market has been largely inaccessible to retail investors, reserved instead for institutions and high-net-worth individuals. And that has played a significant role in the growing gap in wealth. In this episode of Money School Elite, I sit down with Mona DeFrawi to unpack how this system actually works and what's starting to change. Mona has spent decades working inside private markets, helping companies grow, go public, and navigate how capital flows behind the scenes. In this conversation, we break down several important realities that experienced investors understand, but most people never see. We discuss why retail investors have historically been "protected" out of private markets, how early-stage investing drives the largest returns, and why most of the growth happens before companies go public. We also talk about recent policy changes that are beginning to expand access to private markets, what that means for everyday investors, and why understanding how these markets work is becoming increasingly important. About the Guest  Mona DeFrawi is an IPO and capital markets expert, startup founder, and private market pioneer who has spent over three decades working at the intersection of innovation and finance. She has led and supported multiple tech IPOs, built investor relations and capital markets functions from the ground up, and founded four startups, including early work that helped shape what is now Nasdaq Private Market. Throughout her career, Mona has raised significant capital, contributed to legislation that expanded venture funding, and helped build systems that connect companies with the capital they need to grow. Today, her focus is on expanding access to private markets, using technology, education, and new platforms to help more investors understand and participate in opportunities that have historically been limited to institutions. Her work is driven by a belief that early-stage investing is one of the most powerful drivers of wealth creation and that access to these opportunities should be more widely available. To learn more, visit https://radivision.com/.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

Most people think success comes from strategy…better marketing, better positioning, better timing. But what if that's not the lever at all? What if the thing that actually drives growth isn't what you take, but what you give, freely, consistently, and without any immediate expectation of return? Because when you really look at how businesses grow, how opportunities compound, and how networks form, the pattern isn't subtle.  The people who seem to "get ahead" aren't always the smartest or the most tactical. They're the ones who become connectors, who create value before they extract it, and who build relationships that go far beyond transactions. And in a world where everything is becoming automated, optimized, and increasingly transactional, that kind of approach doesn't just stand out—it becomes a competitive advantage. In this episode, I sit down with Greg McDaniel, a luxury real estate broker who went from a college dropout working in a warehouse to closing million-dollar deals in a matter of months.  But what makes his story interesting isn't just the success; it's how he built it. Through radical generosity, unconventional thinking, and a willingness to do things most people would dismiss as "crazy," Greg has created a business that doesn't just grow, it compounds.   Things You'll Learn In This Episode  The fastest way to grow: stop focusing on growth Most people obsess over leads, conversions, and revenue. Could building relationships without immediate ROI actually create more opportunities than chasing them? Being a "connector" makes you indispensable When you become the person who links people, ideas, and opportunities together, how does your value skyrocket?  Creativity beats budget in marketing every time From ads on countertops to branding in unexpected places, Greg built visibility by doing what no one else was willing to try. What opportunities are right in front of you that everyone else is ignoring?   Guest Bio Greg McDaniel is a real estate agent, broker, coach, and speaker with over 25 years of experience and a deep-rooted understanding of the industry. He got his start early, learning the business firsthand from his father, Terry McDaniel, a 40+ year real estate veteran. From sitting in on negotiations to seeing how deals are structured in real time, Greg was immersed in the realities of real estate long before he ever closed his first deal. Today, as a partner at McDaniel/Callahan Real Estate, Greg works with a team focused on more than just transactions. Their approach is built around education, strategy, and helping clients fully understand every step of the buying and selling process, so they can make confident decisions and get real results. Known for his unconventional thinking and "give first" philosophy, Greg has built a business that extends beyond clients, mentoring agents, sharing knowledge freely, and helping others grow in the industry. If you want to connect with Greg directly, send him a text at 925-915-1978.   About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

Most people don't associate residential real estate investing with enjoyment. Between tenant issues, maintaining properties, and financing problems, it can really be a headache.  But the problem isn't the asset class; it's how you approach it. Because real estate, when done right, is actually one of the most forgiving businesses you can be in. What separates the people who enjoy real estate from the ones who burn out isn't intelligence or even experience. It's getting around the right people and getting the right education. What kind of information should you be consuming? How do you find a community that makes investing easier and even enjoyable? In this episode, real estate investor, lender, and author of "Build Real Estate Wealth: Enjoy the Journey of Rental Property Investment, "Joel Miller returns.  We break down why real estate is far more forgiving than people think, and how to structure your investing so it actually becomes sustainable. We talk about why getting around the right people might be the most underrated advantage in the entire business.   Things You'll Learn In This Episode  Real estate isn't risky; bad positioning is If real estate is so "dangerous," why do so many people still build long-term wealth from it? Is the risk actually in the asset, or in how most people enter the game? Time is the ultimate bailout strategy Why do some investors survive bad deals while others get wiped out? How does having the ability to "hold" completely change your outcomes? You don't need to know everything What's the minimum effective knowledge needed to get started without making catastrophic mistakes?  Network often beats strategy Why do the best deals, best contractors, and best insights rarely show up online? How does getting in the right rooms shortcut years of struggle?   Guest Bio Joel Miller is a real estate investor, entrepreneur, mentor, and author of Build Real Estate Wealth: Enjoy the Journey of Rental Property Investment. After obtaining a BA in accounting, Joel has been investing in rental properties since 1978 and flipping houses since 1991. He has served in numerous leadership roles in his professional and personal circles, and he teaches real estate investing at both the beginner and advanced levels. He is also a hard money lender to other investors as well as a trusted mentor, author, podcast guest, and benefactor to his community. To get a copy of the book, visit https://www.joelmillerbooks.com/.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

Most investors believe that holding cash during uncertain markets is the safest move. If you stay liquid, wait for clarity, and avoid risk, you'll be in a better position when opportunities come… or at least that's the thinking. But what many high-income earners and investors don't realize is that cash sitting idle isn't neutral; it's losing ground. Between inflation, taxes, and missed opportunities, capital that isn't deployed is quietly working against you. And while many investors are pulling back, the most sophisticated capital, family offices, institutions, and sovereign funds, are doing the opposite. They're moving into hard assets. In this episode of Money School Elite, I sit down with Ben Reinberg, CEO of Alliance Consolidated Group of Companies and a commercial real estate investor who has built a $500M+ portfolio from scratch, to break down how experienced operators think about capital in uncertain environments. In this conversation, we discuss why holding cash can actually erode wealth instead of protecting it, how the ability to hold through market cycles creates asymmetric opportunities, and why forced sellers are beginning to create some of the best buying conditions we've seen in years. We also break down an often-overlooked asset class, medical property, and why its demand profile makes it one of the most durable plays in real estate, even during periods of economic disruption.   About the Guest  Ben Reinberg is an iconic investor, mentor, educator, and philanthropist, CEO of Alliance Consolidated Group of Companies, and the author of "Hard Assets and Hard Money for Hard Times: A Blueprint to Build a Hard Asset Empire That Can Withstand Every Economic Cycle". Ben built a $500M+ Commercial Real Estate empire from scratch with billions in transactions. He is a respected authority on commercial real estate acquisition and investment, as well as the development and structuring of transactions. He is well-versed in 1031 exchanges and assessing the needs of investment capital. Ben brings value to the deal process through his ability to build trust quickly, raise equity efficiently, solve problems, and bridge the gap between buyers and sellers. Ben has authored and published numerous articles about the trade. Before establishing Alliance, Ben founded Hillcrest Trading, Ltd., a national acquisition and management firm. He began acquiring commercial real estate assets in the 1990s. His professional affiliations include the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants (AICPA), the Illinois Society of Certified Public Accountants (ICPA), the Urban Land Institute (ULI), and the International Council of Shopping Centers (ICSC). He is also a Charter Member of the International Association of Commercial Real Estate Professionals. To learn more, visit https://www.alliancecgc.com/ or https://www.benreinberg.com/.  Buy "Hard Assets and Hard Money for Hard Times: A Blueprint to Build a Hard Asset Empire That Can Withstand Every Economic Cycle" here.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

Many real estate investors believe success comes down to one thing: access to capital. If you can borrow money easily, scale quickly, and leverage aggressively, the thinking goes that your portfolio will grow faster. But what a lot of investors are learning right now is that capital alone doesn't create successful deals. Structure does. In today's lending environment, small mistakes in leverage, underwriting, or financing strategy can turn what looked like a solid deal into a long-term problem. And many investors don't realize where those risks actually show up until after the transaction is already done. In this episode of Money School Elite, I sit down with Jonathan Yoo, co-founder and CEO of Convoy Home Loans, to unpack what's really happening inside the lending market right now. Jonathan and his team work with thousands of investors across the country, helping them structure financing for real estate deals and navigate the changing landscape of lending products. In this conversation, we break down several important realities that experienced investors understand, but many newer operators overlook. We discuss why DSCR loans have become such an important financing tool for real estate investors, how over-leverage is quietly creating the next wave of defaults, and why the biggest risks in real estate often appear after the deal is already closed. We also talk about a topic many investors misunderstand: what actually controls mortgage rates, and why the bond market matters far more than the Federal Reserve when it comes to long-term real estate financing. About the Guest  Jonathan Yoo is the co-founder and COO of Convoy Home Loans, Inc. Convoy Home Loans is one of the top DSCR lenders in the United States. They are best known for building a $1B+ national real estate investment lending platform in under four years without outside capital or a bank charter, helping thousands of everyday investors access non-traditional financing to scale cash-flowing real estate portfolios. To learn more, https://convoyhomeloans.com/. You can also download the Convoy Home Loans App to apply.  Apple App Store Google Play Store   About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

For a long time, truly personalized investment advice has been something only the ultra-wealthy could access. If you have tens of millions of dollars, you can hire advisors who don't just sell you products. They build strategies around your entire financial life. But everyone else gets standardized portfolios and is told to keep contributing to their retirement accounts and stay the course. That's starting to change. A new approach to financial advice is emerging, one built around a fee-for-service strategy instead of product sales. Instead of paying someone based on how much money they manage or what investments they sell you, investors can now pay directly for expertise, planning, and financial architecture. That means for the first time, the level of thinking that was mostly reserved for high-net-worth investors is now available to everyday investors who want a more strategic approach to building wealth. In this episode, investment advisor and fractional CEO, COO, and CRO Stefan Astheimer joins me to talk about how this model works, why the traditional advisory system is evolving, and how investors who understand this shift may gain a serious edge.   Things You'll Learn In This Episode  Most financial advice was never designed to be personal For decades, financial advisors were paid based on products sold or assets managed. But if your advisor's incentives shape the advice you get, how personalized can that advice really be? The edge for everyday investors Could separating advice from product sales finally give ordinary investors access to the kind of guidance the wealthy get? Paying off debt or building wealth first Many people assume eliminating debt should always come before investing. But when interest rates, tax advantages, and opportunity costs come into play, how do you decide which move actually builds wealth faster? AI makes great financial advisors more valuable, not less Many people assume AI will replace advisors. But what if technology actually increases the demand for high-level strategic guidance?   Disclaimer This content is for educational purposes only and is not investment advice. No specific recommendations are being made. Please consult a qualified financial professional before making any investment decisions.   This webinar is for educational and informational purposes only. Any discussion of strategies reflects general concepts and examples based on the speakers' own experience and perspectives, not personalized investment advice. Forward-looking statements, illustrations, or examples are not guarantees of future results. All investments involve risk, and results may vary. Viewers should consult their own qualified advisor before making any financial decisions. Investing involves risk, including the potential loss of principal. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Additional information about PMC Wealth, LLC is available in its Form ADV, which is available upon request or by visiting www.adviserinfo.sec.gov. The 'Inverse Cramer' ETF referenced in this discussion previously existed but has since been closed. This mention is for illustrative purposes only and is not a recommendation.    Guest Bio Stefan Astheimer is a fractional CEO, COO, and CRO who works with founder-led and regulated businesses to turn growth into something more structured, scalable, and commercially effective. He specializes in revenue expansion, operating strategy, and transaction readiness, helping companies strengthen performance while building long-term enterprise value. Stefan studied applied mathematics at Yale and has deep experience across wealth management, advisory, insurance, and other financial services environments where complexity is high and execution matters. To learn more, visit https://pmcwealthadvisors.com/    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

Starting a business is often framed as a simple equation: have a good idea, take it to the bank, and secure the funding. But the reality is very different. Most business owners aren't rejected because their idea is bad. They're rejected because they approached the capital the wrong way. So many deals fail before they ever reach underwriting, and it's not because of the opportunity. It's preparation, structure, and understanding how lenders evaluate risk. Banks aren't investors looking for the next big idea. They operate under strict guidelines, regulatory frameworks, and underwriting criteria that determine whether a deal can even move forward. And most entrepreneurs walk into the process without understanding those rules. In this episode of Money School Elite, I sit down with Sebastien Boyer, known as "The Approved Guy," to break down what actually happens inside the lending process when someone applies for a business loan.  In this conversation, we unpack several key realities that experienced operators understand, but many first-time entrepreneurs miss.  We discuss why banks care more about the borrower's financial stability than the business idea itself. We also talk about how to get a deal to survive the approval process.   About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

Every athlete knows the music will eventually stop. Whether you walk away on your terms, are forced out by injury, or have a contract that doesn't get renewed, your career will inevitably end. In leagues like the NFL, NBA, or MLB, that ending can still leave you financially set. You might walk away with generational money. In action sports, that's rarely the case. A pro snowboarder can start earning real money in their teens. They can travel the world, land major sponsors, build a name, and live what looks like a dream career. But very few retire with enough money to last a lifetime. The earning window is short, the contracts are volatile, and the industry replaces you faster than you expect. What should athletes be doing during their earning years to avoid starting over financially at 30? Stevie Bell's snowboarding career is nothing short of meteoric. Starting from riding the bus two hours a day to Brighton as a laser-focused teenager, then landing a breakout video part just two years into riding, he went from unknown kid to signing a life-changing contract with one of the most iconic brands in snowboarding.  From managing fear on handrails that could end a career, to navigating brand politics when Forum was shut down, to walking away from the sport and rebuilding his identity after the checks stopped coming. His story is a masterclass in how quickly momentum can build and how quickly it can disappear. Stevie shares his career arc with me. We talk about how quickly money can scale, how quickly it can disappear, why most riders walk away with nothing, and how financial literacy becomes a competitive advantage when the career clock is ticking.   Things You'll Learn In This Episode  The moment every career ends, and why most people aren't ready- Whether it's injury, burnout, or a contract that isn't renewed, the music eventually stops. How do you prepare financially and psychologically for an ending you can't control? Fear as a strategic advantage- Top riders don't eliminate fear; they manage it. What does calculated risk look like when the downside is career-ending, and how does that translate to business and investing? The evolution of the industry- With airbags, Olympic pipelines, social media, and corporate sponsors, snowboarding has gone mainstream. Does more visibility actually mean more sustainable opportunity? Win or build: the new income model- If salary-based sponsorship is shrinking, and only a few athletes win consistently, how should modern athletes think about brand, leverage, and long-term income beyond competition? Guest Bio Stevie Bell is a former professional snowboarder and industry veteran with over 25 years of experience in action sports. He built a 14-year professional career after breaking onto the scene with a breakout video part just two years into snowboarding, eventually signing with Forum, one of the most iconic brands in the sport's history. During his tenure with Forum, Stevie traveled internationally filming video projects, participating in global tours, and contributing to one of the most influential eras in snowboard media. His career spanned major brand partnerships, long-term sponsorship contracts, and firsthand exposure to the evolving economics of action sports, from athlete compensation structures to the impact of corporate acquisitions and industry consolidation. After stepping away from professional competition, Stevie transitioned into entrepreneurship and content creation. He is currently the host of the Forum Chronicles podcast, where he documents the 20-year history of Forum and interviews key figures who shaped the brand and broader snowboard culture. To learn more or find out about the podcast, follow @steviebell801.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Private Money Guide:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/book-podcast Wealth Wednesday Webinar: https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar-podcast Mapping out the Millionaire Mystery:  https://go.moneyschoolrei.com/newbook-podcast    

In today's market, AI valuations are expanding faster than fundamentals can justify. Companies with minimal free cash flow are being priced as if dominance is already secured.  Capital continues to circulate between venture portfolios, strategic partners, and ecosystem incumbents, reinforcing growth narratives that assume liquidity remains abundant. But markets don't reward narratives forever. When growth slows or capital tightens, the question shifts from projected upside to structural durability. Does the business generate real cash? Does it control proprietary data that compounds value? Is it positioned to be acquired or forced to sell? This is where discipline separates operators from spectators. Daniel Nikic has spent years operating inside early-stage capital markets, studying transaction patterns, portfolio structures, and acquisition behavior. From that vantage point, valuation is less about headlines and more about capital flows, strategic adjacency, and who holds liquidity when cycles turn. In this episode, we look beneath the surface of today's AI enthusiasm to examine what actually drives valuation, how smart founders reverse-engineer an exit, and why companies entering a slowdown with balance sheet strength don't just survive, they consolidate.   About the Guest  Daniel Nikic is an investment research professional and entrepreneur dedicated to delivering tailored insights and strategic solutions. With over two decades of experience, Daniel has built a career dedicated to empowering investors and businesses with actionable insights. Born and raised in Canada, He earned a Bachelor's Degree in Business Administration from Brock University, where his passion for market dynamics and financial analysis began to take shape. ​As the founder of Cohres, a boutique investment research firm, Daniel specializes in helping high-net-worth individuals, venture capitalists, and startups navigate complex markets and emerging industries such as AI, SaaS, and data. His career journey includes impactful roles at HB Reavis, where he managed €500M real estate projects, Zursh, where he led AI-focused initiatives, and Azafran Capital Partners, where he developed investment strategies and managed data teams. ​Through his dedication to innovation, Daniel combines a global perspective with a hands-on approach, helping clients uncover growth opportunities and achieve their goals. His leadership has positioned Cohres as a trusted name in investment research and strategic planning. To learn more, visit https://www.danielnikic.com/.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Get Your FREE Copy Of 'The Private Money Guide'  and 'Mapping Out The Millionaire Mystery'.  Keep up with us every week on our FREE Live webinars for more conversations like this, and as a BONUS, get our newest mini-ebook instantly upon signing up! https://moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar (digital download). Dive into money, mindset, and motivation videos on my YouTube Channel, and be sure to subscribe so you can be notified of our weekly LIVE streams. Find out about our next weekend workshop, and see what others are saying: https://www.moneyschooltraining.com/registration.      

​​As people make more money, they tend to get sharper about almost everything. They think long term, manage risk better, hire experts, invest wisely and optimize their businesses and portfolios. But when it comes to health, a lot of people are still running the same basic playbook everyone else is. Standard labs, five-minute appointments, and just waiting until something breaks. When you want to level up in every area of your life, the conversation shouldn't be, "Am I sick right now?" It should be, "Where am I headed, and how early can I catch it?" The people who are strong, active, and dangerous well into their later decades aren't winging it. They're tracking smarter markers, finding issues years before they become diagnoses.  They understand a principle that lines up perfectly with money: The fundamentals compound. Biohacks may be exciting, peptides are trendy, and GLP-1s are everywhere. But if your cardiovascular system is weak, your metabolic health is sliding, and you're losing muscle, then you're not really upgrading your future. You're selling it off. In this episode, I'm joined by Ted Ryce, a performance coach who has worked with high-level entrepreneurs and starts like Richard Branson and Robert Downey Jnr.  He talks about how serious operators should think about their bodies, what advanced clients test for that most physicians never bring up, and why mastering the basics still wins in wealth and health. Things You'll Learn In This Episode  Looking fit isn't the same as being healthy You can lift, diet, and still be metabolically heading toward disaster, so what numbers actually predict trouble years before a diagnosis? The uncomfortable truth about weight-loss drugs If appetite goes down but muscle disappears with it, are you really improving your future, or borrowing against it? The health metric we shouldn't ignore What does your VO₂ max say about how long and how well you'll live, and why are so few people training it intentionally? Biohacks can't outrun broken fundamentals Before you experiment with peptides, hormones, and supplements, how do you actually master sleep, movement, and recovery?   Guest Bio Ted Ryce is a health expert and coach to entrepreneurs, executives, and high-performing professionals who want to reclaim their health, lose weight, upgrade their productivity and live an extraordinary life. Ted's been in the industry for 25+ years, coaching A-listers like Richard Branson, Robert Downey Jr., and hundreds of CEOs and entrepreneurs. He is also the creator of The Legendary Life Podcast, where he delivers, with humor, the best health and fitness information in the world, backed by cutting-edge science and common sense wisdom. To learn more, visit https://www.legendarylifepodcast.com/. If you want to work with Ted, visit https://www.legendarylifepodcast.com/here/   About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Get Your FREE Copy Of 'The Private Money Guide'  and 'Mapping Out The Millionaire Mystery'.  Keep up with us every week on our FREE Live webinars for more conversations like this, and as a BONUS, get our newest mini-ebook instantly upon signing up! https://moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar (digital download). Dive into money, mindset, and motivation videos on my YouTube Channel, and be sure to subscribe so you can be notified of our weekly LIVE streams. Find out about our next weekend workshop, and see what others are saying: https://www.moneyschooltraining.com/registration.  

When you're struggling in business or just starting out, the last thing you think you need is a coach. You think you can't afford it, you're not ready, or you should wait until you have better results first. But every time someone feels like that, that's actually when they need a coach the most. Most people see coaching as something you do later. Once things are going well, the money is there, and you've "made it" enough to deserve help. But that's not really how it works. Coaching isn't there to reward you for being successful. It's there to stop you from wasting years trying to get there on your own. Because the real cost isn't paying for a coach. The real cost is everything you lose while you're trying to figure it out by yourself.  In fact, coaching isn't even a cost. When you have the right coach, it starts paying off quickly, and it becomes one of the best investments you'll ever make in yourself. How do you know when it's the right time to get help instead of waiting it out? How did my guest build a top-performing career as a blind sales professional in one of the toughest industries there is? What can we learn from his success story? In this episode, entrepreneur, speaker, coach, and bestselling author of If I Can Do It, You Can Do It, Patrick Engasser, joins me to talk about mindset, opportunity, and why getting the right guidance early changes everything.  You'll learn why the people who grow fastest aren't the smartest, they're just the ones who stop trying to do it alone.   Things You'll Learn In This Episode  "I can't afford a coach" is usually backwards Is it really about money, or about how much time, stress, and lost momentum it's costing you to figure everything out the slow way? The hidden mindset shift that unlocks performance What changes when you stop seeing your weaknesses as liabilities and start using them as your most powerful differentiators? How people actually "create" luck Are some people actually luckier, or are they just better trained to notice and act on the chances everyone else ignores? Success becomes addictive once you start helping others Why does coaching, leadership, and mentorship often feel more rewarding than personal wins, and how does that change the way you build your business?   Guest Bio Patrick Engasser is an entrepreneur, speaker, coach, and bestselling author of If I Can Do It, You Can Do It. He started his career in the insurance industry as a top sales representative for a Fortune 500 company. He was awarded top-account closer in his third year and promoted to district manager. Patrick went on to recruit, train, and lead a seven-figure sales team while coaching several agents to successful careers in the outside sales world. He has been the recipient of the company's Top Award for Management Excellence three times for his outstanding leadership and ability to coach others to achieve their goals. Patrick has been helping aspiring entrepreneurs build their own businesses for over 15 years. To learn more and to buy his book, visit patrickengasser.com. To book a free strategy session, go to talkwithpatrick.com.      About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Resources Get Your FREE Copy Of 'The Private Money Guide'  and 'Mapping Out The Millionaire Mystery'.  Keep up with us every week on our FREE Live webinars for more conversations like this, and as a BONUS, get our newest mini-ebook instantly upon signing up! https://moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar (digital download). Dive into money, mindset, and motivation videos on my YouTube Channel, and be sure to subscribe so you can be notified of our weekly LIVE streams. Find out about our next weekend workshop, and see what others are saying: https://www.moneyschooltraining.com/registration.    

Most people think financial freedom comes from earning more, saving harder, or finding the perfect investment. But the real trap isn't income…it's the way we're taught to store and move money. We're told to separate everything into neat little buckets: checking, savings, mortgage, credit cards, investments. And somehow, even when we're "doing well," the system still feels tight, slow, and exhausting. The traditional system is wildly inefficient by design. A 3–4% mortgage isn't really 3–4% at all. It's closer to 12–15% in simple interest once you account for amortization. Savings accounts paying 1–3% sit right next to debt costing 8–25%, and no one ever teaches us to connect those two dots. We're working hard, being disciplined, and still leaking money through invisible cracks. Instead of playing by those rules, Joseph Kovacevic built a completely different operating system: one pot, one line, one flow. All income goes into a first lien HELOC, and all expenses come out of it.  No idle cash, no artificial separation between "good money" and "bad money." How did he go from using money like everyone else to building an entirely different financial system? Why do people struggle so much to understand and actually implement this system? In this episode, entrepreneur, money mentor, and first lien HELOC specialist Joseph Kovacevic breaks down how he's been running this system for over 15 years - from quitting the railroad, to scaling real estate, to using HELOCs and insurance policies as an integrated financial engine.   Things You'll Learn In This Episode  Your mortgage interest isn't what you think it is A "low" 3–5% mortgage is actually closer to 12–15% in simple interest over 30 years, so what are you really paying for homeownership? Why savings accounts make you poorer, not safer If you're earning 1–3% in savings while paying 8–25% on debt, are you actually saving, or quietly burning money? The one-pot system that replaces budgeting entirely What happens when all income, expenses, investing, and saving run through a single HELOC instead of 10 separate accounts? How to become the bank instead of borrowing from one From infinite banking to lending your own capital at 12%+, how do you turn cash flow into a self-funding wealth machine?   Guest Bio Joseph Kovacevic is an entrepreneur, Money Mentor, and first lien HELOC specialist.  At 23 years old, he hired out on the railroad for a career that lasted almost 20 years. He has been investing in real estate since 2000. Between managing rental properties and flipping houses, he was able to escape the corporate world and become an entrepreneur. In 2018, he met Chris Naugle at a Home show in Buffalo, NY, and was later introduced to Brent Kesler, who introduced him to IBC. After years of using the Infinite Banking Concept, he now wants to share IBC with everyone. Being a part of The Money School and The Money Multiplier team, he now helps others break away from conformity and pursue their dreams. He is passionate about educating others about the implementation of the Infinite Banking Concept to solve people's money problems. To learn more, visit https://themoneymultiplier.com/joseph-kovacevic.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Get Your FREE Copy Of 'The Private Money Guide'  and 'Mapping Out The Millionaire Mystery'.    Keep up with us every week on our FREE Live webinars for more conversations like this, and as a BONUS, get our newest mini-ebook instantly upon signing up! https://moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar (digital download).   Dive into money, mindset, and motivation videos on my YouTube Channel, and be sure to subscribe so you can be notified of our weekly LIVE streams. Find out about our next weekend workshop, and see what others are saying: https://www.moneyschooltraining.com/registration.    

Most high-income earners assume their tax situation is handled once they hire a CPA and start filing. The return gets done, nothing breaks, and it's easy to believe that if something mattered, it would already be happening. But that assumption quietly costs people money. Not because they're reckless or aggressive, but because compliance gets mistaken for strategy, and basic leverage never gets activated. Zach Newberry works with business owners and real estate investors who earn well, and still find themselves on the wrong side of the tax game. What he sees over and over isn't missed loopholes or exotic strategies.  It's small, obvious decisions that never get made: spending a few thousand dollars to unlock meaningful capital, revisiting structures that no longer fit, and using rules that already apply but are never deployed. His perspective reframes taxes as a capital allocation problem, not a paperwork exercise. Instead of focusing on what gets filed, he looks at what gets converted, dollars that would disappear versus dollars that stay in play for the next investment. In this episode, we talk about why small, inconvenient costs often unlock real leverage, where high earners miss money long before "strategy" even starts, and how rules like the Augusta Rule fit into real life when you understand how to use them. About the Guest  Zachary Newberry is a CPA, tax planner, and entrepreneur who works primarily with business owners and real estate investors. His practice focuses on helping clients move beyond basic tax compliance and use the tax code intentionally — connecting entity structure, real estate, income timing, and planning decisions in a way that supports long-term wealth building. He works with real estate investors, real estate-centric businesses, small to mid-sized companies, and high-income individuals. In addition to tax preparation, Zach provides ongoing tax planning and advisory services, accounting and bookkeeping oversight, and strategic consulting for clients who want their tax decisions to function as part of their broader financial and investment strategy — not just something that gets filed once a year.    Email Address - zach@newberrycpa.com Instagram - @newberrycpa Facebook Business Page - https://www.facebook.com/zachnewberrycpa Booking Link - https://go.oncehub.com/ZachNewberry   About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor with a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier.   His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.

Most investors never question the structure they're investing in. They accept tight assumptions, back-end-heavy returns, and illiquidity as the price of access, assuming the payout will arrive before anything goes wrong. But when timing slips, liquidity tightens, or markets shift, those assumptions become traps. The deal didn't fail because the idea was bad. It failed because it never paid the investor enough to wait. Irwin Boris has spent decades operating on the other side of that equation. After more than $5 billion in deal flow, he learned to treat any model that needs to be "screwed down" to make the return work as a warning sign, not an opportunity. His approach prioritizes downside discipline, visible cash flow, and structures that don't depend on exits arriving on schedule. Instead of betting on appreciation or future liquidity events, he focuses on assets that pay along the way and remain viable even when conditions change. In this episode, we talk about understanding where risk actually lives, why backend-dependent strategies quietly corner investors, and how disciplined capital positions itself in assets that don't require perfect timing to survive.   About the Guest  Irwin Boris is a speaker and SVP of Acquisitions and Investor Relations at Heritage Capital Group. In the past, he has been the Head of Real Estate for several Family Offices (foreign & US), making investment decisions.  He has more than 30 years of experience in real estate finance, investment, and asset management. He has participated as a direct lender, principal, investment banker, and advisor in more than $5 billion in real estate transactions. To learn more, visit https://heritagegroupcapital.com/ or send an email to irwin@heritagecapitalgroup.net.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Get Your FREE Copy Of 'The Private Money Guide'  and 'Mapping Out The Millionaire Mystery'.    Keep up with us every week on our FREE Live webinars for more conversations like this, and as a BONUS, get our newest mini-ebook instantly upon signing up! https://moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar (digital download).   Dive into money, mindset, and motivation videos on my YouTube Channel, and be sure to subscribe so you can be notified of our weekly LIVE streams. Find out about our next weekend workshop, and see what others are saying: https://www.moneyschooltraining.com/registration.    

Denise Duffield-Thomas is the money mentor for the new wave of online entrepreneurs who want to make money and change the world.⁣⁣She helps entrepreneurs like you charge premium prices, release the fear of money and create First Class lives. ⁣⁣Her books Lucky Bitch, Get Rich, Lucky Bitch, and her newest Chill and Prosper give a fresh and funny roadmap to living a life of abundance without burnout.⁣⁣Her Money Bootcamp has helped over 10,000 students from all around the world.⁣⁣She's a lazy introvert, a Hay House author and an unbusy mother of 3. She lives on the East coast of sunny Australia with her family and two fur babies.Find her at...www.denisedt.comInstagram: @denisedtFacebook: @denisedtMake sure you SUBSCRIBE to Crushing Classical, and maybe even leave a nice review! Thanks for joining me on Crushing Classical! Theme music by DreamVance.I help people to lean into their creative careers and start or grow their income streams. You can read more or hop onto a discovery call from my website.  https://jennetingle.com/work-with-meI'm your host, Jennet Ingle. I love you all. Stay safe out there! Your portfolio career is YOURS to design. If you are seeking inspiration, grab the first chapter of my book for FREE at the link below! You are allowed to thrive, and your artistry MATTERS.https://jennetingle.kit.com/c6e4009529

Most investors never question the hierarchy they're operating in. They borrow money, take on operational risk, manage tenants, absorb volatility, and send a large portion of every payment upstream to the lender.  If something breaks, if a tenant stops paying, if the market turns—the obligation to the bank doesn't change.  This is the Mr. Burns model: the banks sit at the top of the building collecting checks, while everyone else does the work below. The slow flip model flips that hierarchy entirely. Instead of rehabbing properties or betting on appreciation, the investor becomes the lender. Short-term private money is used to acquire low-dollar properties, then paid off quickly through long-term owner financing.  For the first few years, the deal feels tight. Cash flow is modest. But once the private capital is gone, the asset is owned free and clear—and the payments keep coming for decades. No leverage. No refinancing risk. No dependency on market timing. What makes this approach powerful isn't just the math, though the math is staggering. It's the positioning. Ultra-affordable housing behaves differently from traditional rentals. Demand doesn't disappear in downturns. People can always move down in price—but there's a floor they can't go below. And by structuring the deal as the bank, the investor removes themselves from the operational chaos that destroys so many otherwise "good" deals. In this episode, we sit down with Scott, a real estate investor who's been in the game since the 1990s, got crushed in the 2008 collapse, and rebuilt with a model explicitly designed to survive the next downturn.  We talk about why slow flips aren't about patience for patience's sake, how amortization quietly creates generational cash flow, and why the investors who win long term are usually the ones willing to give up speed early in exchange for control later. About Our Guest  Scott Jelinek is an entrepreneur, coach, full-time real estate investor, and author of The Art of the Slow Flip. He has been investing in real estate since 1994 and has completed well over six hundred deals, continuing to be a leader in the industry. He has owned and operated a wide variety of businesses, from tanning salons to hot dog shops--all while buying, selling, and renting properties. Today, Scott uses his knowledge and experience to coach other real estate investors. Over 15 years, Scott built a rental portfolio of more than 100 properties. On paper, it looked like success. In reality, it was constant tenant issues, mounting repairs, and growing leverage. By 2008, he was $1.3 million in debt and ultimately lost more than 55 properties to foreclosure. That experience forced a hard reset and led him to abandon traditional rentals in favor of what he later named the Slow Flip model: selling low-cost homes on terms and holding the paper. Since then, Scott has completed hundreds of slow flips, building long-term cash flow without tenants, repairs, or property management, and now focuses on helping other investors escape the operational grind of real estate. To learn more or buy the book, go to https://www.slowflip.com/.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Get Your FREE Copy Of 'The Private Money Guide'  and 'Mapping Out The Millionaire Mystery'.    Keep up with us every week on our FREE Live webinars for more conversations like this, and as a BONUS, get our newest mini-ebook instantly upon signing up! https://moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar (digital download).   Dive into money, mindset, and motivation videos on my YouTube Channel, and be sure to subscribe so you can be notified of our weekly LIVE streams. Find out about our next weekend workshop, and see what others are saying: https://www.moneyschooltraining.com/registration.    

One of the biggest mistakes in personal finance is how quickly conversations turn into either/or debates. Invest or insure, trust the market, or play defense. Something is a scam, or it's the answer. The problem is, real financial progress rarely comes from choosing sides. It comes from using the right tools together instead of pretending one tool should do everything. This shows up clearly in the way people talk about retirement plans. People have strong opinions about 401(k)s, especially the idea that the match is a scam. But that argument falls apart once you actually slow down and look at how it works. That idea carries into the way people think about insurance. Insurance isn't an investment, and treating it like one creates bad expectations on both sides. But dismissing it because it's not an investment misses what it's actually designed to do. The more interesting question isn't "what's the return," but "what role does this play in the system?" Being dogmatic about any tool, whether it's a 401(k), insurance, or the market, usually leads to worse outcomes. In this episode, the author of The And Asset and founder of BetterWealth, Caleb Guilliams, returns. We dig into the idea of giving your dollars more than one job, how money can be safe and accessible at the same time, and boring on the surface, but incredibly useful when integrated correctly.  Things You'll Learn In This Episode  Why financial labels block better decisions We don't reject strategies because they fail; we reject them because of what they're called. How does labeling something "insurance," "investment," or "scam" stop you from seeing its true value? Why value matters more than rates of return Cost only feels expensive when the value isn't clear. What happens when you stop asking "what does this pay?" and start asking "how many jobs does my money do at once?" Changing your mind is a sign of financial maturity Rigid beliefs feel safe, but they often lead to bad advice. Why is the willingness to evolve a marker of credibility, not weakness? How AI will quietly replace most financial advice models What will happen when software can analyze, design, and optimize financial decisions faster and more accurately than most humans ever could?   About the Guest Caleb Guilliams is the author of "The and Asset", a podcaster, investor, speaker, and the founder and CEO of Better Wealth Solutions, a company committed to showing people how to be more efficient and control their money today while maximizing their future wealth potential. BetterWealth is a company that is fascinated with the idea of ordinary people being able to achieve extraordinary wealth. Caleb and his team have discovered proven strategies & principles that can empower anyone to create & protect real wealth. For more information, go to https://betterwealth.com/. Go to https://thewholelifesummit.com/2026  to learn more about the Summit and buy the book at https://betterwealth.com/bookstore.   About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Get Your FREE Copy Of 'The Private Money Guide'  and 'Mapping Out The Millionaire Mystery'.    Keep up with us every week on our FREE Live webinars for more conversations like this, and as a BONUS, get our newest mini-ebook instantly upon signing up! https://moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar (digital download).   Dive into money, mindset, and motivation videos on my YouTube Channel, and be sure to subscribe so you can be notified of our weekly LIVE streams. Find out about our next weekend workshop, and see what others are saying: https://www.moneyschooltraining.com/registration.    

Many people who work hard to build and protect their wealth assume that once they "make it," everything will finally feel good, secure, calm, and settled. But most people don't discover the truth until they're already successful: money doesn't quiet the fear. It often makes it louder. The pressure gets higher, and the decisions get heavier. The same stress, anxiety, and old beliefs they carried before wealth simply move with them into a larger life. That's the part no one prepares high earners for: the emotional weight that grows alongside the net worth. And it shows up everywhere: in the urge to hold money tighter, in the guilt that makes generosity feel risky, and in investment choices that look diversified but are actually fragmented and scattered. For more than 30 years, financial advisor Shannon Ryan has seen this up close. She's worked with founders, professionals, and ultra-wealthy families who have everything they once wanted, yet still feel overwhelmed, afraid, or ashamed of how they handle money. Not because they lack discipline or intelligence, but because their emotional relationship with money never evolved as quickly as their wealth did. In this conversation, Shannon and I explore the hidden side of wealth: why financial milestones don't automatically create peace, and what it actually takes to feel free when the numbers say you should already be there.   About the Guest Shannon Ryan is a Certified Financial Planner CFP®, behavioral finance advocate, speaker, and the author of the upcoming book Your Money Has Feelings. With over 30 years of experience guiding individuals and families, Shannon blends clear financial knowledge with a heart-centered approach to help people heal their money stories, transform their financial behavior, and build lasting confidence. She's been featured on Good Morning America, CNBC, and TEDx, and is known for making personal finance feel relatable, empowering, and deeply human. To work with Shannon, visit https://shannon-ryan.com/.  Buy her book, "Money Has Feelings," on Amazon.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.

When people think about economic downturns, they usually assume the damage happens at the bottom. What rarely gets talked about is how many wealthy people lose everything — not because they didn't have assets, but because they trusted strategies that only worked when conditions stayed favorable. In this episode, I'm joined by Arthur Hood, an investor and entrepreneur who has built significant wealth across multiple market cycles and watched firsthand how high-net-worth individuals get taken out when liquidity tightens, exits disappear, and assumptions stop holding. We talk about why net worth doesn't equal safety, how paper wealth quietly evaporates when cash dries up, and the specific decisions that turn manageable situations into permanent losses.  Arthur explains why some asset classes keep working under pressure while others break, and why deals that depend on a clean refinance or exit are often the first to fail. Most importantly, we dig into the moves that allowed certain investors not just to survive the worst downturns, but to stay in control long enough to come out stronger on the other side.   About the Guest Arthur Hood is an experienced entrepreneur with a diverse portfolio of businesses spanning commercial real estate, entertainment, and hospitality. His venture Your Space America, focuses on the booming self-storage industry, one of the most resilient and high-performing asset classes in U.S. real estate. As Executive Vice President of the company, Arthur has overseen the development, construction, and ownership of large, climate-controlled self-storage facilities. These properties have become increasingly sought after by institutional investors due to their consistent performance across economic cycles. With self-storage offering an average annual return of 17.3% from 1994 to 2023, the industry has grown exponentially, driven by high demand from individuals, small businesses, and transitional populations. Your Space America is capitalizing on this growth by creating state-of-the-art facilities that cater to modern consumer needs, offering not only safe, secure storage but also a wide range of specialized services, including climate-controlled units for sensitive inventory and documents. In addition to his work in self-storage, Arthur is the owner of HV Entertainment LLC, which operates a growing portfolio of lounges and nightclubs across Texas, Georgia, Alabama, and Chicago. Furthermore, as Managing Member of HV Properties LLC, Arthur has been instrumental in acquiring, developing, and selling both commercial and residential real estate across the U.S. The company's real estate holdings span Florida, Texas, and Alabama, with a focus on value-added opportunities. From large-scale developments to residential projects, Arthur's leadership has helped expand the company's footprint and establish a strong presence in multiple high-demand markets. His expertise across these industries, combined with a strategic approach to growth, has positioned him as a significant player in both commercial real estate and the entertainment sectors. To learn more, go to https://arthurhood.com/ or send an email to info@arthurhood.com.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor with a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.

For a lot of truckers, you can make great money hauling loads across the country, but it comes with a catch: the wheels have to keep turning for the money to keep coming in.  There's no automatic runway to financial freedom, no built-in exit strategy, just the quiet expectation that you'll drive until your body says you can't. And the obvious alternatives like owning trucks, hiring drivers, scaling through fleet operations aren't as simple or as stable as they sound.  Most truckers end up in a loop that looks a lot like the rest of America's financial reality: you earn, you spend, you start over. The numbers change, but the pattern doesn't. That's where infinite banking enters the conversation, not as a magic button, but as a system that gives truckers a way to make their money work even when they're not on the road.  But here's the part most people miss: Infinite banking only works if you do. Because there's a trap almost everyone falls into. You pay off your debts, you free up all that cash flow… and then you let it drift back into a traditional bank account, where it gets spent, swallowed, or forgotten.  And this same pattern shows up in another overlooked area of trucking: health. The lifestyle is notoriously hard on the body: long hours sitting, fast food at every stop, poor sleep, and constant stress. It's easy to wake up one day and realize your finances aren't the only thing stuck in a loop you never intended to be in. In this episode, I'm joined by Dexter Holiday, a longtime trucker who set out to rewrite both his financial and health trajectory. We explore what it looks like to step out of the financial and health cycles of trucking.  We unpack the strategy, the mistakes, the course corrections, and the mindset shifts required to make it all work in real life.   Things You'll Learn In This Episode  Infinite Banking only works if you doMost people succeed in paying off debt but fail to recapture the payments and lose thousands in the process. How do you start thinking and acting like the bank? Debt freedom isn't the goal; debt management is Dexter cleared his debts, then unknowingly recreated them because the old habits were still in place. How do you stop yourself from sliding back into the same financial patterns you're trying to escape? Discipline creates wealth and health The same mindset that made Dexter financially stable helped him reverse diabetes, transform his energy, and rebuild his body. Why do money problems and health problems stem from the same root behaviors, and how do you change them? Fasting can undo what the road does to your body Trucking beats up your health, long hours sitting, constant snacking, and limited food options. How did fasting give Dexter's body the break it needed to repair itself and reverse the damage?   About the Guest Dexter Holiday is a longtime trucker who has spent years navigating the financial and physical demands of life on the road. After realizing the trucking industry offers income but not freedom, he began searching for a way to break the cycle of "earn, spend, reset." His journey through infinite banking, financial mistakes, course corrections, and eventually dramatic improvements in his health has made him a powerful example of what's possible when you commit to discipline, learning, and change. To learn more about the products that helped Dexter change his health, visit https://ufeelgreat.com/c/AKL589.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor with a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.

In today's episode, Ted interviews Chris Naugle, former pro snowboarder turned wealth strategist and America's #1 money mentor. Chris has helped thousands of people rethink the way they save, invest, and build long-term security through simple, proven financial principles.  Together, Ted and Chris break down the traps most people fall into: relying on traditional banks, following outdated financial advice, letting emotions drive decisions, and misunderstanding how wealth is really created. Chris also introduces the "infinite banking" concept, explaining how high performers can grow their money, protect themselves from downturns, and create generational wealth—without taking unnecessary risks.  If you're ready to take control of your financial future and make smarter decisions with your hard-earned money, this conversation will give you the clarity and confidence you've been missing. Listen now!  Today's Guest  Chris Naugle  Chris Naugle is a wealth strategist, author, and the nation's top expert in privatized banking and infinite banking strategies. A former professional snowboarder turned entrepreneur, he has built multiple businesses, managed millions in assets, and helped thousands rethink how they save, invest, and create long-term financial security by using simple, effective wealth-building principles.  Connect to Chris Naugle:  Website: ChrisNaugle.com   YouTube: Chris Naugle  X: Chris Naugle  Facebook: Chris Naugle    You'll learn:  Why most people follow broken financial advice without realizing it  How traditional banks profit while consumers stay stuck  Why liquidity, control, and safety matter more than high returns  How to protect your wealth from market volatility  Practical steps to start taking control of your financial future today   Chapters:  (00:00) Introduction  (02:26) Meet Chris Noggle: From Snowboarder to Money Mentor  (02:58) The Connection Between Financial and Physical Health  (04:43) Chris Noggle's Journey to Financial Freedom  (16:28) The Infinite Banking Concept Explained  (29:07) Understanding Inflation and Whole Life Insurance  (30:44) The Drawbacks of Whole Life Policies  (31:54) The Importance of Financial Discipline  (32:36) The Role of Technology in Financial Management  (37:02) The Psychology of Money and Personal Stories  (41:31) Chris's Personal Health Journey  (43:50) The Power of Giving and Mindset  (47:28) Building Healthy Habits and Routines  (52:31) Conclusion and Final Thoughts