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Join the Million Dollar Investor Masterclass here: https://masterpassiveincome.com/nchmasterclassGet a complementary call with their corporate analyst here: https://masterpassiveincome.com/nchJoin me in Nashville at Income Building Live! https://masterpassiveincome.com/iblGet 10% off your pass with promo code: DUSTINGet my real estate investing course for free! https://masterpassiveincome.com/freecourse//BEST REAL ESTATE INVESTING RESOURCE LINKSStart your LLC for FREE! https://masterpassiveincome.com/formanllcGreat High Interest Savings Account: https://masterpassiveincome.com/citGet your business bank account here: https://masterpassiveincome.com/baselaneGet your business credit card with 2% Cash Back with NO FEE! https://masterpassiveincome.com/amexLearn more about Dustin Heiner and find resources to build an automatic real estate investing business: https://masterpassiveincome.com/The primary focus of this podcast episode is to elucidate the notion that money should not be perceived as an insurmountable obstacle in the pursuit of real estate investment. I present a comprehensive exploration of at least fourteen distinct strategies for securing financing, designed to empower aspiring investors to acquire properties and generate consistent cash flow.Through a methodical examination of each financing option, I aim to dismantle the common misconception that a lack of funds precludes individuals from embarking on their investment journeys. Furthermore, I share personal anecdotes and testimonials from students who have successfully navigated similar challenges, thereby underscoring the accessibility of real estate investment for all.It is my fervent hope that listeners will be inspired to recognize the myriad avenues available to them, ultimately leading to their financial independence and the relinquishment of traditional employment.Links referenced in this episode:incomebuildinglive.commasterpassiveincome.com/freecoursefinancial independence, quit your job, real estate investing, passive income, financing options, creative financing, rental properties, property investment, investment strategies, cash flow, money management, DSCR loans, FHA loans, hard money loans, seller financing, private money loans, portfolio loans, home equity loans, investment coaching, financial educationNOTE: This description may contains affiliate links to products we enjoy using ourselves. Should you choose to use these links, this channel may earn affiliate commissions at no additional cost to you. We appreciate your support!Mentioned in this...
What if the smartest move in real estate isn't buying more… but selling at the right time?In this episode, we do something most investors avoid — we talk honestly about letting go. They share the real reasons behind their decision to sell one of their short-term rental properties and unpack the uncomfortable questions every investor eventually faces but rarely discusses.Joined by their friend and trusted real estate advisor, Sean Bakhtiari, the conversation dives into when selling actually makes strategic sense — from struggling cash flow and high-interest DSCR loans to changing life priorities, market shifts, and the power of unlocking trapped equity. Sean explains how solid bookkeeping, clear goals, and objective advice can transform an emotional decision into a smart long-term move.They also explore lifestyle-driven markets like Provincetown, Hampton Beach, and Salisbury Beach, the realities of self-managing vs. co-hosting, and how successful investors think not just about growing a portfolio — but pruning it when necessary.If you've ever wondered “Should I hold, or is it time to sell?” — this episode is for you.Things we discussed in this episode:Why and when to sell a short-term rental rather than hold forever.Jason & Rory's decision to sell their Gillford, NH property, including emotional and financial factors.Impact of high-interest DSCR loans and debt service on cash flow.The importance of good bookkeeping, clean P&Ls, and separate bank accounts for each property.Common reasons owners sell: poor cash flow, operational issues, market shifts, or lifestyle changes.Selling when a property has significant equity and considering redeploying that capital elsewhere.The role of lifestyle markets (e.g., Provincetown, Plum Island) vs pure investment markets.Sean's thesis on emerging value in Hampton Beach and Salisbury Beach as future winners.When co-hosting / professional management makes sense vs when owners should self-manage.Sean's community-focused approach with The Bakhtiari Group and his partnership with Seacoast to Summit Vacation Rentals.Get in touch with SEAN:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/Seacoast2SummitVacationRentalsLLCWebsite - https://hurfordplacehospitality.com/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/seacoast2summit/#SmartStayShow #realestate #realestateinvestor #realestateagent #RealEstateInvesting #ShortTermRentals #STRInsights #VacationRentals #DataDriven #ROI#UniqueStays #PropertyManagement #InvestSmart#RentalIncomeFollow Us!Join Jason Muth of Prideaway Stays and Straightforward Short-Term Rentals and Real Estate Attorney / Broker Rory Gill for the first episode of SmartStay Show!Following and subscribing to SmartStay Show not only ensures that you'll get instant updates whenever we release a new episode, but it also helps us reach more people who could benefit from the valuable content that we provide.SmartStay Show Website and on Instagram and YouTubePrideaway Stays Website and on Facebook and LinkedInStraightforward Short-Term Rentals Website and on InstagramAttorney Rory Gill on LinkedInJason Muth on LinkedIn
Keith shares how a recent trip to Colorado Springs and a changing commission landscape reveal what really matters for real estate investors now From there, the show dives into the three levers investors truly control—leverage, operations, and relationships—before welcoming lender Caeli Ridge to break down the major mortgage options for investors. You'll hear how different loan types fit different strategies: from your first conventional "golden ticket" loans, to DSCR loans based on property income, to short-term fix-and-flip and bridge loans that prioritize speed and flexibility. The episode then moves into how more advanced investors can scale beyond 10 doors, navigate debt-to-income and tax strategy, and even approach financing for short-term rentals—all while highlighting why having the right lending partner and long-term plan can make a big difference to your results. Episode Page: GetRichEducation.com/591 For access to properties or free help with a GRE Investment Coach, start here: GREmarketplace.com GRE Free Investment Coaching: GREinvestmentcoach.com Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Invest with Freedom Family Investments. For predictable 10-12% quarterly returns, visit FreedomFamilyInvestments.com/GRE or text 1-937-795-8989 to speak with a freedom coach Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review" For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript: Keith Weinhold 0:01 Welcome to GRE. I'm your host. Keith Weinhold with new ways to think about your life through goals momentum in the real estate market. Then learn about various mortgage loan types, conventional DSCR, fix and flip, bridge loans, short term rental loans and more. Knowing which loans to use can save you millions and learn the fatal mortgage mistakes you must avoid today on get rich education. Corey Coates 0:29 since 2014 the powerful get rich education podcast has created more passive income for people than nearly any other show in the world. This show teaches you how to earn strong returns from passive real estate investing in the best markets without losing your time being a flipper or landlord. Show Host Keith Weinhold writes for both Forbes and Rich Dad advisors and delivers a new show every week since 2014 there's been millions of listener downloads and 188 world nations. He has a list show guests include top selling personal finance author Robert Kiyosaki. Get rich education can be heard on every podcast platform, plus it has its own dedicated Apple and Android listener phone apps build wealth on the go with the get rich education podcast. Sign up now for the get rich education podcast or visit get rich education.com Speaker 1 1:14 You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is get rich education. Keith Weinhold 1:30 Welcome to GRE from Winnebago, Minnesota to Winnipeg, Manitoba, and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Weinhold, and you're listening to get rich education, the voice of real estate investing since 2014 before we get into the mortgage discussion, where we'll discuss five or 10 different investor loan types and their various pros and cons, which could save you millions over the course of your life. I shared with you that I traveled to Colorado A couple weeks ago, for a goals retreat hosted by the real estate guys, top notch event, I spent extra time there in Colorado Springs, because I find it really livable, and I spent five hours with a local realtor there, one day out and about visiting properties in the area I'm potentially looking for a home or a second home. And by the way, how is this for a price range? The realtor wanted to know what my Buy Box is, and since I'm just learning the Colorado Springs market, I told him I'm willing to spend between 400k and 1.2 million on the property, yeah, pretty wide range, a mile wide. Fortunately, my other Buy Box criteria are more narrow and specific, and I have got to say, I'm surprised at how low the area's home prices are. I thought they'd be higher. Interestingly, before touring homes, my buyer agent wanted me to sign a six month exclusive representation agreement. Fair enough, that's standard stuff. It was on the agreement, though, that I as the buyer pay a 3% commission up on the purchase, and the seller would presumably pay the other 3% to make up that total 6% commission for the agent compensation. Well, historically, the seller paid the entire 6% and this, of course, goes back to the NAR settlement, and that ruling that became effective in August of 2024 you probably remember this, and I talked about it on the show back then, and how it's not really that big of a deal, especially to investors like us, because at GRE marketplace and with our GRE investment coaching, it's a direct model. There's zero commission on either side, and then you, in turn, get some of those savings, but out in the larger world and in the owner occupant world. Well, that rule change that started a year and a half ago. It means that sellers are no longer required to pay the buyer's agent. Instead, the fee is now negotiable between buyers and their agent. The other change is that property listings no longer display the buyer agent's commission offer. But here's what's interesting in practice, and what really ends up happening in the end, in most cases, is that the seller still pays the full commission and compensates both agents that full 6% sometimes it's 5% instead of six buyers and buyer agents, they still operate under the seller pays. And that's largely because that has just been the norm. It's what's seemingly always been done. It's what buyers are used to. And the reason that that often persists. Is because the seller is the party in the transaction that has that thick equity in the property, deep equity, and buyers are the ones often just trying to scrape together whatever they can for a down payment and closing costs. Buyers are not going to be able to come up with another 15k for an agent commission when they're buying a 500k property, that's 3% especially today, this is true because American homeowners the seller then still have record equity positions of about 300k an all time high. Nearly half of mortgaged homes are considered equity rich. What does equity rich mean? It means that the loan balance is less than half of the home's value, yeah, the seller has the means to pay the full commission. So the point is, in practice, the seller, yeah, still pays that full five to 6% commission in the overwhelming majority of cases, and the buyer pays nothing. And if that does change, it's going to take a long time. You know, a lot of these evanescent real estate stories that people think are going to have some seismic impact. It rarely does, like this erstwhile NAR ruling or the 50 year mortgage proposal or banning big institutions for buying more single family rentals. You know, this stuff is like one little baseball sized asteroid striking an entire planet. I mean, it's like a barely discernible impact. Real estate is anchored in one place like Jabba the Hut. It is solid. These stories are interesting, but they're not impactful. Keith Weinhold 6:52 Instead, I've mentioned it before. What are three things you control in real estate that really matter. And these are evergreen things. First, it's, how many dollars are you leveraging? That's where your wealth is going to come from. In fact, we're going to discuss that today with mortgage loan types. Second, what's the efficiency of operations on your existing properties? And thirdly, what is the quality of your relationships? And actually, we're addressing the third one today too, talking to a lender that you could make part of your team. You can control these three things. They're unyielding, they're evergreen, they're long term, and they all have gratitas and impact those three things, leverage operations and relationships. Now my agent drops me off and picks me up from my hotel here at the Broadmoor in Colorado Springs. This was also the event hotel for the goals retreat. I just extended my stay to hang out in the area. Look at real estate, do some climbing on Pikes Peak. Pro tip for you on hotel room rates, talk to a human being before I booked my stay, I called the front desk and asked them if they could extend the attractive event room rate to more nights on my extended stay. And they agreed. You might have heard of the Broadmoor. It is well known. It's been here for more than 100 years, and it is such a fine place to stay. Let me tell you about this special piece of real estate. In fact, I've thought it through, and I will now hereby proclaim that it is the finest us hotel experience that I've ever had in my life. I say us because I stayed at an amazing place in Dubai. But what makes the Broadmoor stand alone? It's the details and the service. A lot of hotels are nice, but this is on a different level. And I don't say this to brag, and this is because you probably can afford to stay here, yeah, like I have. You might have paid more elsewhere in your life for a lesser hotel, although I am here in the low seasons. Okay, now, sure, you've got views of the Rockies and a man made lake and waterfall and even a beautiful chandelier in my hotel room. The thing that sets it apart, though, is you have this service that feels old world and not corporate. That's what makes the difference. The Broadmoor is horse themed, since horses are a symbol of the American West. There are about 800 rooms here. It's kind of like a self contained adult Disneyland championship golf courses, a world class spa, even an outdoor lap swimming pool like that has lanes that I swam in one morning for. Fine dining, casual dining, access to hiking, fly fishing, even falconry, zip lines, tennis, pickleball pools. Take the cog railway to the Pikes Peak, Summit. Okay. Now, other nice hotels have attractions that are sort of like that, but when I rave about the service, it's the little things they are knocking on my door before 10am to come in and clean the room. And you know how so commonly, when you first check into your hotel room and you look in the closet, there are not enough clothing hangers, and they're all like stupidly mismatched. These all match. They're all nice wood, and there are plenty of them. So I'm talking about these details. I'm telling you. I had dinner at one of the broadmoor's restaurants the other night. I just happened to take a close look at the tag on the napkin. Sure enough, it is made in Italy. I mean, jeez, no detail is overlooked at this stellar place. In fact, here's what I'll do. You know, I'll just completely stop my Colorado Springs home search right now. Instead, I'm going to stop down by the Broadmoor front desk, tell him to give me some moving boxes, because I'm moving into the Broadmoor and I'll be here for the next decade. Start forwarding my mail here and everything. And hey, at least I was courteous enough to give them notice. I can't stay here too long, or my standards will be rising faster than my net worth. Yeah, yeah. Can't go to sleep with a mint on your pillow every night, I suppose. Keith Weinhold 11:38 Now, the reason I came here now is to attend that aforementioned goals retreat, and let me take all the time and all the resources that I put into being here and distill them into just a few of the most salient takeaways for you. Goals should be smart, strategic, measurable, actionable, relevant and time based, they must be written down. Now, how would you describe yourself to somebody else that didn't know who you were? Write that down next. What do you think your reputation is? How would others describe you? Write that down now that you can see how you describe yourself and how others describe you, you can see that there's a gap there. That gap is what you need to work on. I learned that goal should be written in the present tense, not the future tense. I did not know that before. For example, say it is January 1, 2035, and I own $5 million in rental property. That's an example of how you would do that. So take future events and write them in the present tense. Other questions at the goals retreat that got really introspective are, what are you really going to do with your life? And write down that answer. Sheesh, that is tough. And if you think that's a hard question for you to ask of yourself, the next one is even harder. It's simply why? Why is that where you're going with your life? And then write that down? I mean, would you answer questions like this for yourself? And you really think about it, that can occupy a new segment of your entire headspace. It is a big cognitive load, and a last one to leave you with is to dream not just big, but gigantic. Get it out there, write down a dream that interests you, but it's so grandiose that you're actually embarrassed to tell someone about this stretch dream, for example, for me, it's the first person to walk on another planet. No human has ever done that, and this would most likely happen on Mars. See, this is so grand that is sort of embarrassing for me to even share that with you. It almost makes you sound Loony, like I would have to learn so many new skills to travel to and walk on Mars. But you should write down a bunch of other goals too. You're sort of brainstorming on goals, attainable goals. Recall that is the A in the SMART goals acronym, you want to write down a bunch of attainable ones, not just that stretch one. So for attainable ones, one of them is for me to become the highest man on earth. To give you an example. And I attempted that goal two years ago, and I failed. I told you about that at that time. But see now, compared to my embarrassing stretch goal of walking on Mars, the highest man on earth feels attainable, I know what it takes to achieve it, and it's worth doing, ah, but it's a grind to get there, yet it would be worth it. Those are some quick take. Ways from the real estate guys goals retreat while on stage the event host Robert helms he took a minute respite from the goals material, and he recognized the fact that, as he calls it, the four OG real estate podcasters are all in the same room. One of them is helms himself, and now I feel like the other three are all older and doing it longer than me. I was one of the four that he mentioned. But you know, there is only one podcast that was mentioned from stage, and that is that Robert helms told the audience that they should be listening to the get rich education podcast. That was a nice thing to say, and he is always a gracious giver. Keith Weinhold 15:45 Next, we're talking about four major loan types, conventional DSCR, fix and flip and then bridge loans. When we discuss the first two parts of it could sound repetitive, but you'll see why we do this, because then you'll be able to compare it to nichey loan types that we discuss, for example, the speed of a bridge loan, where you can get funded in just one week, compared to a slower conventional loan. The mortgage landscape changes. I still remember how in 2012 we had still somewhat freshly emerged from the global financial crisis, and back then, you could only get four conventional loans, four rental properties, not 10 like you can today, 20 married. So get your loans while you can, you probably won't always be able to get 10 loans. We'll start with loan types that are more for beginners, and then we'll get to advanced material. Let's welcome back one of our favorite recurring guests. Keith Weinhold 16:54 You can make millions more throughout your life by understanding mortgage loans. This is key, and today it's the return of the woman that's created more financial freedom through real estate than any other lender in the entire nation, because she's the president of ridge lender group. Hey, it's time for a big welcome back to the incomparable, yet somehow still so approachable Chaley Ridge Caeli Ridge 17:16 my Keith, thank you for having me. I love being here. I love what you're doing. It's my pleasure, sir. Keith Weinhold 17:23 And our followers, our listeners, have been approaching you since 2015 you're one of the longest running guests, truly one of the OGS around here at GRE and now Caeli, before we discuss loan types. You know, we don't really talk politics on this show rather policies, and we're in the midst of a presidential administration that often, in the name of the word affordability, is trying to supremely shake things up in the housing market. Help us dissect what matters and what won't. Caeli Ridge 17:58 I have found that at least as it relates to current administration, whoever that might be, I wait for the buzzwords or the taglines to become the actual policy. Like you said, That's a good point in this case. You know, you've got things floating around, like the 50 year mortgage cutting off the hedge fund guys and that kind of thing. Whether or not, those things come to fruition. I'm happy to give my opinion on them. I do not think that it's going to move the needle much for the people that you and I serve with regard to I mean, just taking them one at a time, I don't think that the 50 year is going to come to fruition. Just first and foremost, if it did do, I think it would be a good idea for a homeowner, probably not, but for an investor, maybe if there's some way that we can keep our payment lower, given the maturity date of a mortgage for an investment property is usually about five years. I mean, I know that this is a 30 year fixed mortgage, but statistically speaking, the average shelf life of a non owner occupied mortgage is about five years. So getting a 50 year amortization, if that were going to reduce the payment, I don't think is a bad thing for an investor, however, and this may get a little bit technical for the listeners, so I apologize in advance if we were to go to a 50 Year am the adjustments, something called, and you and I have talked about this before, something called an llpa, that stands for loan level price adjustment, I think would be such that it could end up defeating the purpose of having the longer term amortization, because I think the interest rates would be higher and I think they may offset so that was a long way to say. One, I don't think it's going to happen. I don't think it's actually going to get to its final resting place. And two, would it be a good idea for investors, yeah, I think it would be worth considering if it kept the payment lower. Okay, that's that as the other piece to cutting off the hedge funds, the big, you know, BlackRock, some of the big players, and giving them access to the residential housing and first right of infusion or etc, because they've got such deep pockets. You. It's such a small amount to what our individual investors are going to have access to that I don't think that that moves the needle either. So I don't know if I'm answering the question, except to say anything that they're going to tout, I would wait for it to actually become written in stone and pass by the rest of the powers that be before I would get excited about or concerned about any of it. Keith Weinhold 20:21 This is pretty parallel with what I've been telling our listeners. All these things seem to make splashy news, but I haven't seen anything that's going to make a deep impact yet, whether it's the 50 year mortgage, which probably won't even come to fruition, or if it's doing these mortgage bond buy downs in order to bring more liquidity into the market and bring rates down, or if it sees any of these other things being discussed with these institutional investors, since they already own such a smaller proportion of the housing market than a lot of people think, we'll discuss seasoned real estate investors and their loans shortly, but first for newer real estate investors, you Know, chili, I kind of think of four or more loan types that a beginner should be familiar with. I think of conventional loans, dscrs, fix and flips and then bridge loans, the first one with conventional loans. What are the basics that someone should know? Caeli Ridge 21:17 So first of all, you should know that there are 10 of these. We call them the golden tickets. I'm pretty sure I coined this, okay, 100 years ago, the golden ticket. We call the conventional aka Fannie Freddie, aka agency. They go by different names, but they all mean the same thing. We call them the golden tickets because it's the highest leverage and typically at the lowest interest rate you can find. Now I do have a hook in our conversation today about that. I'll get we'll get to it. There are 10 of these per qualified individual. So one of the first things that I would tell somebody is, is that if they are a partnership or a husband and wife team, you want to make sure to keep the debt obligation separate, because if you want to maximize these golden tickets, let's just say it's a husband and wife team. You each have, per qualification access to 10, and that includes a primary residence. In fact, let me just take a quick second and define what counts in the 10, because some people get this wrong. So the 10 golden tickets are counted by any residential property, single family, up to four Plex that has a loan on it, where the loan is in the individual name or personally guaranteed by the individual. That's where people get tied up. So if they went out and got a kind of more of a commercial type loan, that was in an LLC name, for example, but they signed a personal guarantee, per Fannie Freddie guidelines, that particular mortgage is going to count against the 10. So those would be some of the first pieces of news or detail I would give them about conventional Keith Weinhold 22:40 for married couples, don't take ownership in both the husband and wife's name, either the husband or the wife. That way, you can get to 20 rather than 10. And yes, you do have to be mindful that your primary residence does count in that 10 or 20, whatever it might be. Anything else quickly with conventional loans, LTVs so on, Caeli Ridge 23:01 yeah, LTV can go to 85% loan to value. So you get a little bit extra than you're going to get in some of the other loan product types. It will have PMI, private mortgage insurance, anything over 80% LTV will always have PMI on a more conforming, conventional basis. So keep that in mind. But the factor is pretty low. I would encourage people that are looking to stretch the almighty dollar. Do the math. Look at the 85 with PMI against, say, an 80% and see what are you giving up versus what you're getting. And then qualification stuff, you guys, my dumb joke, it's Keith's favorite. I'm sure vials of blood and DNA samples are sort of required for the Fannie Freddie loans. So just be prepared to supply or submit us the tax returns and pay stubs and bank statements and and all that stuff, Keith Weinhold 23:44 you'll feel like you're getting fingerprinted almost for a conventional loan qualification. And the second one that I brought up DSCR loans, that's short for debt service coverage ratio. And these mortgages are pretty standard for rental properties. They're underwritten based on a property's income potential. So you know, the way I think of dscrs Chaley from the lender's perspective, is that sustainable cash flow is what matters. The rent has got to support the property's monthly mortgage payments. So we talked to us more about dscrs. Caeli Ridge 24:15 Yeah, I love this product, and this is for somebody that either can't fit into the conventional Fannie Freddie box, or maybe they've exhausted their golden tickets and they're graduating and moving on. This is a great option that will reduce the amount of vials of blood and DNA samples that you're going to have to submit. It still provides for a 30 year fixed mortgage. The leverage is roughly the same, 80% in most cases, on a purchase. And to your point, the gross income divided by the principal, interest, taxes, insurance and Hoa, if it's applicable, is the simple formula, the easy method I'll give people, just to kind of solidify that math, is that if the gross rents were $1,000 a month, and if the PI TI was $1,000 a month, when you divide that, your debt service is 1.0 Now you can go as low, believe it or not, as low as a point seven, five, DSCR, they have those available be ready for the interest rate to get a little hair on it. Okay, it's going to be higher than what the 1.0 and above is going to be. But you can go as low as point seven, five, those are going to be for the investors that have found a property, maybe in distress, and they cannot show the current market value rent, perhaps, and it's on the low end. So you can still get that done at point seven, five, just be ready for a higher interest rate. Keith Weinhold 25:30 So the DSCR loan an alternative for you, which might be especially useful, like Chaley touched on, if you've already exhausted your 10 golden ticket. Fannie Freddie loans, a DSCR of 1.2 for example, means that your rent income needs to exceed your principal, interest, taxes and insurance payment by 20% or more. That's what we're talking about here. And then Chile, those were more of loans for the buy and hold type of investor. Tell us about fix and flip loans. Caeli Ridge 26:03 Yeah. So these are shorter term loan that will allow you to include not just the purchase of the property, but also some renovation or rehab money if you need that. And we're going to be looking at an ARV after repair value. So you've got a purchase price, you've got your renovation or scope of work budget. And then we're looking for an ARV with the ARV to be somewhere around 75% so what that means, if you've not heard of this before, you're going to take, let's say, $100,000 value. And if we want the ARV to be at 75% we're going to lend 75,000 is kind of the mix there. Those are quicker loans. You're going to be paying much higher rates on those. You know, between nine and 13% depending on the deal. The points are also going to be a little bit higher, but a great option for that quick turn and burn where you know your deal has enough skin in it and you can recapture all your capital and make a good tidy profit on it. Keith Weinhold 26:53 We're talking about basically fixer upper loans here with Chaley Ridge, the president of ridge lending group, yes, these are jalopies that rarely qualify for traditional bank financing. And oftentimes, when I think about these fix and flip loans, I'm thinking that often there is interest only flexibility with regard to those higher interest rates that you need to pay. And I think of it as, you know, a shorter term loan that you've got during your renovation period, oftentimes 12 to 18 months. Does that sound about right? Caeli Ridge 27:24 Yeah, 6,18, even 24 months. And to your point, yes, all of these are going to be interest only. And one of the cool things is about these loans is, is that, if there's enough room in the deal, right, based on what you need to borrow and what we think the ARV is expected to be, you don't even actually have to be making those interest payments. You can build it into the final payout when we go to refinance you out of this short term loan, or you simply sell the property and pay off that loan. So for example, let's say that your interest only payment is $1,000 a month, okay? And the value of the property is going to be $200,000 and you only took 120 okay, we're going to be well within that 75% ARV. You can build in that $1,000 say, for 12 months, there's $12,000 and just add it to the outstanding balance that you started by owing, and not have to be making those payments on an ongoing basis. It's not rented, right? So it might be nice to be able to factor that in to the actual payoff when you go to refinance that if it's a fix and hold versus go to sell it on a fix and flip. Keith Weinhold 28:31 Now, long term, we know that the big gains for real estate investors really come from that leveraged appreciation getting that loan. But sometimes there are situations where we might want to act as a cash buyer. And that brings up this fourth of four loan types that I brought up, the bridge loan, short term loans that can temporarily finance a property purchase while you're waiting for a longer term loan to come through. The bridge loan, so I think of it as a pretty speedy loan, if you sort of want to act like you're an all cash buyer. Caeli Ridge 29:04 Yeah, I like this, and in many ways it's similar to a fix and flip interest only. Obviously the term is going to be shorter, six months, 12 months, up to 24 months, and based on largely relationship, the bridge loan for the purpose that you described, really comes into play for an investor that we know and we're comfortable with, we can fund those inside a week, for somebody that we've done several of these loans for. So for those that need that really quick turn, once you've established yourself as a seasoned, experienced investor in that space, those are pretty slick and easy to get through. Keith Weinhold 29:39 Why would someone use a bridge loan, rather than a fix and flip loan. Caeli Ridge 29:43 So if they're in a very competitive market, that might be another option, because those are going to be faster. The bridge loan is going to be faster where they need to say that they're an all cash buyer and they only need seven days to close, or whatever it is. It depends on the municipality in the state. But what if you're at the courthouse steps? And you need cash quickly. Sometimes it needs to be immediate. So that might not be applicable in this case, but if you put the bid in, and you win the bid, and you've got, you know, three days to perform, usually we can get those done. So it's circumstantial. Those would be two variables or two scenarios that that would apply to Keith Weinhold 30:17 the bridge loan gives you the advantage of speed, but that speed can come at a cost. Caeli Ridge 30:22 Oh yeah, yeah, you're going to be paying probably three points, maybe four points, and it's short term interest, 13, 14% Keith Weinhold 30:30 so with these four loan types that we've discussed, conventional DSCR, fix and flip and bridge loans, you can kind of see that there is a loan for most every investment scenario, and there's no reason to rely on only one type, a flipper. Might start with a short term fix and flip loan or a bridge loan and then later refinance to a DSCR or a conventional loan. So consider mixing and matching based on your needs. You're listening to get rich education. We're talking with Ridge leninger, President Taylor Ridge, more when we come back, including steps for more advanced investors, I'm your host. Keith Weinhold Keith Weinhold 31:06 mid south homebuyers with over two decades as the nation's highest rated turnkey provider, their empathetic property managers use your return on investment as their North Star. It's no wonder smart investors line up to get their completely renovated income properties like it's the newest iPhone, headquartered in Memphis, with their globally attractive cash flows, mid south has an A plus rating with a better business bureau and 4000 houses renovated. There is zero markup on maintenance. Let that sink in, and they average a 98.9% occupancy rate with an industry leading three and a half year average renter term. 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Ask about the freedom flagship program when you speak to a freedom coach there, and that's just one part of their family of products, they've got workshops, webinars and seminars designed to educate you before you invest, start with as little as 25k and finally, get your money working as hard as you do. Get started at Freedom family investments.com/gre or GRE, or send a text now it's 1-937-795-8989, yep, text their freedom coach, directly again. 1-937-795-8989, Keith Weinhold 33:19 the same place where I get my own mortgage loans is where you can get yours. Ridge lending group and MLS, 42056, they provided our listeners with more loans than anyone because they specialize in income properties. They help you build a long term plan for growing your real estate empire with leverage, start your pre qual and even chat with President chailey Ridge personally, while it's on your mind, start at Ridge lending group.com that's Ridge lending group.com Blair Singer 33:53 this is Rich Dad, sales advisor, Blair singer. Listen to get rich education with Keith Weinhold. And above all, don't quit your Daydream. Keith Weinhold 34:09 Welcome back to get rich education chili when we go beyond this beginner stage that we've been discussing, how about for an investor just trying to scale to 10 doors worth of one to four unit properties. Now, are there any strategies there or more of a loan order that you would recommend in getting up to your first 10 you know Caeli Ridge 34:29 I think the strategy starts with calling your lender, ideally Ridge lending group, and having that deep strategy call that, that discovery call, so that we can really understand and plant some seeds that say, Okay, Mr. Jones, these are your qualifications today. This is where you want to be in a year or 10 years. These are the steps that are going to be important that we are mindful of and we take to accomplish and reach those milestones. It's really important to have that baseline understanding of what is your debt to income ratio on day one, what are your assets? Sets. What is your credit? Where do you want to be in a year or 10 years? Right? Do you want 10 properties in a year's time? It's going to be a very different conversation than if you're going to slow roll this and want to establish 10 purchases or 10 investment properties over 10 years. So identifying those details is going to be part one, and then next, in terms of order, I would say, largely the higher price point properties, typically, I would say, put those in one through six. And the reason that I'm saying that is is that the underwriting guidelines under conventional financing, they will change based on how many finance properties you have. So of all of the inner working guidelines and things that go into securing a conventional mortgage loan, the three top most heavily weighted are going to be debt to income ratio, credit score and assets. Okay? And within each one of those, the marker or the qualification guideline changes as you evolve and acquire more property. So the higher up the ring you go, or the rung that you go to 10, the more restrictive the guidelines are going to be. So I would typically say, get the higher price point properties go into maybe one to four, one to six, if that's part of your strategy and your diversification of portfolio ownership. Then after you've established having two or three or four properties and that higher price point it as it gets harder to qualify, potentially, if your debt to income ratio is a little bit tight, you've got the smaller loan sizes that might be less impactful in debt to income ratio. All of this is very subjective to the individual's qualifications and needs, of course, but that might be one rule of thumb that I would take Keith Weinhold 36:39 gosh, this This is absolute gold in helping you structure the architecture of a growing income property portfolio. And we're coming up on this Super Bowl, and whatever mortgage lender advertises for the Super Bowl or has some big, splashy campaign nationally, you know they are not the ones that are going to have conversations like this for you, they might be fine for buying a primary residence, but this is why you want to have a long term strategy and work with a lender that's aligned with you on exactly that sort of thing. And Chaley, is there a specific way in which one can avoid hitting the Fannie Freddie loan ceilings too early if you haven't already touched on it. Caeli Ridge 37:22 Yeah, very good question. You know, I think that this is going to come down to a debt to income ratio conversation. It's easy enough to ensure that we contain assets and credit. Those are easier conversations. The debt to income ratio is the piece that's more complicated and can get away from an investor without them even knowing it. You don't know what you don't know, right? So I would say that debt to income ratio and making sure that your lender again, hopefully Ridge lending, because we know this like we know our own faces, making sure they know how to structure and provide feedback and consult on that schedule E, part of the beauty of real estate investing is the tax deductions. Right? Many people get into real estate investing, not for the cash flow, not even for the appreciation, but for that tax strategy, because they're high wage earners, or whatever it may be, and they're sick of paying x in taxes. So the debt to income ratio is key in scaling and making sure you can continue to qualify for those loans. The conversations that we have with our clients really go deep about where we can maximize our deductions to ensure that we get the tax benefit without precluding our qualification on a conventional underwriting basis in the DTI category. Keith Weinhold 38:35 Now, during my growth as an investor, when I got above 10 doors, one gets above 20 doors. When one gets to 216 doors, I began where I needed to qualify more on a DSCR basis, where the lender is looking at the properties qualification, more so than me. So are there any other thoughts with regard to how one can set themselves up for success in really going big and well beyond 10 doors Caeli Ridge 39:03 absolutely so once we've exhausted the Fannie Freddie, and I think one of the real value adds about Ridge is that we are not a one size fits all, and we are extremely holistic versus transactional. So having that first conversation and understanding what those goals are, so that we can pivot as we need to maximize the golden tickets, whether that be 10 to 20, right? If you're in a marriage or a partnership or whatever, and then setting up for the DSCR loans when the time comes, and taking advantage of those, there is no limit to how many DSCR loans we can get for one individual. We have yet to file an individual that we've had to say no, and we've done quite a few of the high, high acquisition investors, so I don't expect that to be an issue, but yeah, I think it's about planning, planting those seeds, creating roadmaps together and have those smart discovery conversations. Keith Weinhold 39:50 Now, as you grow, one way you might diversify is to have perhaps at least a part of your portfolio in short term rentals. So what I. Comes to getting loans for sort of Airbnb or VRBO type properties. What does one look for there? How much does the landscape change versus the longer term rentals that we've mostly been talking about here? Caeli Ridge 40:10 Yeah, I think that the differences are going to be about purchase versus refinance. If we're just talking about purchases, let's kind of try to keep it in one lane. If we're talking about purchasing a short term rental, you may be limited on leverage. You might lose a little bit of leverage, 5% let's say you could get to 75% and maybe on a short term they're going to back it off to 70% LTV, so there may be reduction in that loan to value. And the way in which we're going to quantify the income is absolutely important to share with your listeners on a purchase transaction, we have access to things like an appraisal. An appraisal is going to give us some median rental income, whether it be long term or short term, that we will use to offset a new mortgage payment if that's needed for the individual's debt to income ratio qualification. Now, if they don't need the rental income to qualify, then it's a non issue. But if they do, like most of us, need that rental income to absorb this new mortgage payment that we are securing for them, how that's going to quantify is important. So if it's not in a short term rental area, let's just say it's kind of off the beaten path, and there may not be enough data points to support the income that you need. It's important to know that up front versus way down the rabbit hole, when you paid for appraisals and you're all the way through the transaction and earnest money might be off the table if you had to cancel that kind of thing. So really important to understand the numbers in advance, I would say, when we talk about short term rentals and how the income is going to be quantified from an underwriting perspective, Keith Weinhold 41:43 why does a borrower often need to make a higher down payment on a short term rental than they do a long term rental? Caeli Ridge 41:49 You know, I think that in secondary markets, as we talk about mortgage backed securities and things like that, it's looked at as a higher risk. A short term rental is going to be a higher risk than just the stable long term, long burn tenant is going to be there and they've got their lease for a year, two years or whatever, at a time, the short term rental is more volatile and it's seasonal. It can be I mean, there's all those different factors, so higher risk means more skin in the game for the investor. Keith Weinhold 42:13 That makes a lot of sense. Does that higher risk also translate into a higher mortgage rate for short term rentals than long term rentals? Caeli Ridge 42:18 Fannie Freddie versus DSCR The answer is no. On the Fannie Freddie side, the interest rate's not going to change on a DSCR loan. Yes, it can be slightly higher, usually about about a quarter of a percentage point on a short term versus a long term. Keith Weinhold 42:33 Now, are there any particular markets that lenders want to avoid with short term rental loans? Caeli Ridge 42:39 No, as long as the property is habitable, and all the other metrics fit Qualifications and Credit and assets and all that stuff. No, there isn't a market that we're going to have any issues with now. We do get the notifications for natural disaster areas, and as that relates to the appraisal and things like that, if it's in a natural disaster area or zone, we may have to hold funding until after the disaster is over, and then we can go and take more pictures and make sure it's still standing and there's no major issues. But otherwise, aside from that, as long as it's habitable, no, there is no market restriction. Keith Weinhold 43:12 Yes, with that variability of income for short term rentals, you can understand how a lender would be more careful in making a loan, and would want you, the borrower, to put more skin in the game for a short term rental. Well, Caeli, overall, what should an investor do in the next 24 hours to make themselves more lendable before contacting someone like you? Caeli Ridge 43:36 I would say the answer is sticky, but call rich lending group. That's how you're going to make yourself more lendable. And the reason that I can say that is is that everybody's qualifications and needs and goals are inherently different. So calling someone that understands this landscape and can navigate the battleship in the creek like I like to say, that's the visual aid for those of you that need the visual is the first key. And with that conversation, we're going to be able to identify for you specifically what you would need to do to become more lendable. And it may be nothing Keith Weinhold 44:07 well over there, Chaley, you're growing. You do loans in almost all 50 states. The GRE podcast has more than 5.8 million listener downloads, and you have helped countless GRE listeners acquire smart investor loans for fully a decade now. Just amazing. So talk to us about all of the loan types that you offer investors there at ridge. Caeli Ridge 44:30 My gosh. Okay, so I think one of the real value adds for us is that we have such a diverse menu of loan products. We touched on a few of them already. So we've got the conventional Fannie Mae Freddie, Mac stuff. We've got our DSCR loans. We have bank statement loans, asset depletion loans. I can touch on those if you want. Keith, we have our short term bridge fix and flip. We have our All In One my favorite, first lien, HELOC we have second lien HELOCs. We have commercial loan products, and commercial can apply to residential and commercial property. A cross collateralization, commercial for residential properties. That just means, if you're putting 10 single families into one blanket loan, that would be cross collateralization, or if you're buying a storage unit that's straight commercial, and probably even more than that, ground up construction, there's really not a limit to the loan products that we offer, specifically for investors. The only thing we don't have, I would say in our arsenal is bare land loans. Those are hard to come by Keith Weinhold 45:24 It sounds like you recommend a call in order to get some of that back and forth, to learn how you can best help that investor. But tell us about all the ways that someone Caeli Ridge 45:32 can get a hold of you. Yes, there's a few ways. Of course, our website, ridgeline group.com, you can call us toll free at 855-747434385, 747-434-3855, 74, Ridge. Or feel free to email us info at Ridge lending group.com Keith Weinhold 45:49 and you might get lucky. Hey, spin the wheel. Chaele does get on the phone and talk to individual investors herself too. So Chaley, it's been valuable as always to cover all these different loan types for beginners, and then what one does when they advance beyond that. It's been great having you back on the show. Caeli Ridge 46:09 Thank you, Keith. I appreciate you. Keith Weinhold 46:16 Oh yeah, a lot to learn from Chaley today. You've got mortgage rates three quarters to 1% lower than they were a year ago. At this time, in fact, last month, they ticked below 6% for the first time in years, and their lowest level in over three years. But when you introduce geopolitical uncertainty, well, that tends to make rates tick up again. Now, just what does happen when you have a lower overall rate trend like we have? Well, in this cycle, it's already spurred an increase in housing sales volume. It surged to 4.3 5 million in the latest reporting month, and that is the hottest annualized pace in nearly three years. Some of the same people who said, wait until rates fall, they're about to realize that prices didn't wait. Demand comes back fast. Inventory doesn't if mortgage rates take another leg lower, we could see quite a refinance wave in balanced markets or in supply constrained markets, bidding wars could follow. Now I've shared with you before that I totally do not predict interest rates. I don't know if anyone should. It is a great way to be fantastically wrong and supremely waste a lot of people's time. Instead, I think it's more efficacious for you to be able to interpret the signs that can trigger a further rate drop. Those signs are a weak jobs report that tends to bring lower rates because the labor market needs the help. So does softening wage growth, GDP below expectations, inflation continuing to cool, or a pickup in US Treasury demand. These are all signs that can lead to even lower rates. In fact, right now, with already lower rates and higher wages, real estate is more affordable than it's been in about three years, but overall, longer term, yeah, income properties still feel somewhat less affordable. It's less affordable than it was in pre pandemic times. That's for real for US investors, though, affordability is less about the price of the property, it's about whether the property pays for itself and grows your net worth while inflation does the heavy lifting for you, that's why it still works for us as investors. Higher prices don't kill investors inaction during inflation does you're not so much buying a say, 350k property. You're controlling it with 70k while your tenant and inflation do the rest. We don't rely on hope or appreciation. We start with inflation, tax benefits and debt pay down, and then appreciation typically happens too. A lot of times, the question for us goes beyond whether or not a property is affordable. The question is whether owning an investment property is better than inflation compounding against us, which is an investor mindset for this era, Ridge landing gear. President Chaley Ridge is a regular guest here because the mortgage space is so dynamic and things change a lot. For that reason, we expect to have her with us every few months this year, I'll see you next week. I'm your host. Keith Weinhold, don't quit your Daydream. Speaker 2 50:01 Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of get rich Education LLC, exclusively Keith Weinhold 50:30 The preceding program was brought to you by your home for wealth building, getricheducation.com
In this episode, Scott Ward and Tom Ulrich break down the key differences between DSCR loans and traditional mortgages, and why choosing the wrong one can slow down or completely stall your deal. They explain how DSCR loans are evaluated based on property cash flow instead of personal income, what lenders actually care about during underwriting, and where investors get tripped up when they assume the process is “easier.” You'll hear real-world examples, common mistakes to avoid, and practical guidance on when a DSCR loan makes sense versus a conventional mortgage. If you're investing in real estate or planning to scale, this episode helps you approach financing with clarity and confidence.
This bonus episode features Caeli Ridge from Ridge Lending Group, breaking down what's happening right now with DSCR loans and why they're getting so much attention from rental property investors.Caeli explains how DSCR loan rates have been coming down and are now very close to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac rates. We talk about why DSCR loans are often simpler than conventional mortgages, how they qualify based on the deal instead of the investor's personal income, and why that makes them especially attractive for investors.We also discuss how increased competition from DSCR lenders has pushed Fannie and Freddie to lower their down payment requirements. Single-family rental properties now require as little as 15 percent down. Caeli also walks through the documentation needed for conventional loans and what credit scores lenders are looking for.Listen in on a coaching call with Caeli and a client: https://rentalincomepodcast.com/bonus-tinaContact Caeli:Websiteinfo@ridgelendinggroup.com1-855-747-4343
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In this episode, Dylan Silver interviews Cory Winningham, the president of Homes by Ann David, who shares his extensive experience in the new construction and real estate investment sectors. Cory discusses how he transitioned from being a handyman and real estate investor to building custom homes in Florida. He emphasizes the importance of flexibility in construction, catering to clients' needs, and addressing the affordable housing crisis through innovative home designs. Cory also highlights the significance of understanding financing options and building relationships with lenders, which he believes are crucial for success in real estate investing. Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind: Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply Investor Machine Marketing Partnership: Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com Coaching with Mike Hambright: Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform! Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/ New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club —--------------------
Ash Patel interviews Paul Frank, a rare combination of longtime developer, broker, and mentor, about what it really takes to survive and succeed in commercial real estate over multiple decades. Paul shares how being thrown into large QSR development projects in the 1980s shaped his risk discipline, why entitlement and municipal processes have become significantly harder in recent years, and how siloed brokerage models limit brokers' real understanding of the full real estate lifecycle. He also breaks down common development and financing mistakes, including DSCR traps, prepayment penalties, and why many “developers” lack the operational depth to underwrite and execute deals properly. The conversation closes with lessons on relationship-driven dealmaking, mentorship, and why discipline—not deal volume or door count—is the real long-term advantage in CRE. Paul FrankCurrent role: Developer, Broker, and Founder, PDF USABased in: CaliforniaSay hi to them at: www.pdf-usa.com IG paulfrankpdf www.linkedin.com/in/paulfrankpdf Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/ Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Real estate isn't dead. Most investors are just playing the wrong game. In this episode, Joe Moffett breaks down how the co-living strategy can turn a single-family property into a high-cash-flow asset that rivals multifamily returns, even in today's market. We walk through a real example where a five-bedroom, two-bath house was converted into an eight-bedroom, three-bath property generating $2,500 to $3,500+ per month in cash flow. Joe explains the mechanics behind the strategy, including how to identify the right properties, where this model works best, layout considerations, renovation decisions, and DSCR lending nuances that most investors overlook. We also discuss why chasing $100 per door no longer makes sense, how systems and processes eliminate the management headaches people assume come with this model, and how one well-structured property can outperform an entire traditional rental portfolio. Beyond the numbers, this conversation dives into the mindset required to execute in a tougher market, the power of community and coaching to accelerate results, and why cash flow matters more than door count when building long-term wealth. If you've been told deals are gone or real estate is too hard in 2025, this episode will show you a different way to play the game. Book your call with Neo Home Loanshttps://www.neoentrepreneurhomeloans.com/wealthjuice/ Book your mentorship discovery call with Cory RESOURCES
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Many investors think a DSCR loan is a DSCR loan—until overlays, reserves, and prepayment penalties blow up their deal. In this episode of Chasing Financial Freedom, Ryan DeMent breaks down the key differences between local bank “DSCR-style” portfolio loans and true non-QM DSCR lenders, how overlays work in the real world (housing history, VOR, first-time investors), and what you must know about reserves and long-lasting prepayment penalties before you sign. If you use DSCR loans to scale your rental portfolio, this conversation will help you avoid costly surprises and choose the right lender structure for your strategy.
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Join me in Nashville at Income Building Live! https://masterpassiveincome.com/iblGet 10% off your pass with promo code: DUSTINJoin the MPI Inner Circle Mastermind: https://masterpassiveincome.com/mastermindGet my real estate investing course for free! https://masterpassiveincome.com/freecourse//BEST REAL ESTATE INVESTING RESOURCE LINKSStart your LLC for FREE! https://masterpassiveincome.com/formanllcGreat High Interest Savings Account: https://masterpassiveincome.com/citGet your business bank account here: https://masterpassiveincome.com/baselaneGet your business credit card with 2% Cash Back with NO FEE! https://masterpassiveincome.com/amexLearn more about Dustin Heiner and find resources to build an automatic real estate investing business: https://masterpassiveincome.com/The primary focus of this podcast episode is to elucidate the notion that money should not be perceived as an insurmountable obstacle in the pursuit of real estate investment. I present a comprehensive exploration of at least fourteen distinct strategies for securing financing, designed to empower aspiring investors to acquire properties and generate consistent cash flow.Through a methodical examination of each financing option, I aim to dismantle the common misconception that a lack of funds precludes individuals from embarking on their investment journeys. Furthermore, I share personal anecdotes and testimonials from students who have successfully navigated similar challenges, thereby underscoring the accessibility of real estate investment for all.It is my fervent hope that listeners will be inspired to recognize the myriad avenues available to them, ultimately leading to their financial independence and the relinquishment of traditional employment.Links referenced in this episode:incomebuildinglive.commasterpassiveincome.com/freecoursefinancial independence, quit your job, real estate investing, passive income, financing options, creative financing, rental properties, property investment, investment strategies, cash flow, money management, DSCR loans, FHA loans, hard money loans, seller financing, private money loans, portfolio loans, home equity loans, investment coaching, financial educationNOTE: This description may contains affiliate links to products we enjoy using ourselves. Should you choose to use these links, this channel may earn affiliate commissions at no additional cost to you. We appreciate your support!Mentioned in this episode:Join Me In Nashville For Income Building LiveGet your pass for Income Building Live here: https://masterpassiveincome.com/iblJoin Me In Nashville For Income Building LiveGet your pass for...
What did you think of todays show??Profitable one year, underwater the next — real estate doesn't always math the way you expect. In this episode, Mike shares why short-term numbers lie and what his once cash-flowing rental portfolio looks like five years in. You'll hear why “looking good on paper” can still turn into a cash problem, what most people misunderstand about tax incentives and lending rules, and how you can avoid surprise tax bills.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Your five-year portfolio reality check (01:13)What people misunderstand about real estate tax incentives (04:00)Why you need to stay on top of professionals you hire (09:53)Why Dylan is replacing his acquisitions manager (13:30)How your problems evolve as you scale (20:28) Lending rules that catch investors off guard (23:05) The truth about private mortgage insurance (28:51) What investors miss about DSCR rates and loan structure (31:02)Early takeaways from 2026 (35:37)Sign up to join the FREE Scale Community! https://collectingkeys.com/Want deeper breakdowns like this every week? Subscribe to the Collecting Keys newsletter! https://collectingkeys.com/newsletter/Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com
288 - The Insider's Guide to DSCR Loans with Phil Ganz In this episode of the Real Estate Investor Growth Network podcast, hosted by Jen Josey, the discussion kicks off with a compelling segment on the essential nature of property inspections for investors. Jen outlines five critical reasons why skipping this step can be detrimental to your real estate ventures. The heart of the episode features an in-depth interview with Phil Ganz, the President and Founder of Next Wave Mortgage. With over 25 years of industry experience, Phil shares his journey from aspiring Peace Corps volunteer to a respected figure in the mortgage sector. He delves into the intricacies of DSCR loans, explaining their benefits and providing strategic advice for both novice and seasoned investors. Listeners are also treated to Phil's personal anecdotes and insights on overcoming obstacles, the importance of mentorship, and his commitment to helping others achieve financial independence through real estate investing. 00:00 Introduction to REIGN and Host Jen Josey 01:02 Today's Topic: Importance of Property Inspections 03:06 Guest Introduction: Phil Ganz 04:11 Phil Ganz's Journey in the Mortgage Industry 09:04 Challenges and Successes in the Mortgage Business 22:27 Starting Next Wave Mortgage and Helping Investors 24:15 Understanding DSCR Loans for Investors 31:42 Understanding Prepayment Penalties 33:17 The Importance of 30-Year Fixed DSCR Loans 35:02 Pitfalls of Adjustable Rate Mortgages (ARMs) 37:00 Lessons from Real Estate Mistakes 44:38 Phil Ganz's Personal Journey and Advice 47:30 The BADASS Acronym: Book, Advice, Drive, Aspiration, Systems, Success 58:32 Conclusion and Contact Information
Buying an "as-is" property with a DSCR loan? Skipping this step doesn't just cost you $40k in repairs—it can disqualify you from Section 8 and kill your cash flow.In this episode, I break down a real-life nightmare scenario where an investor skipped the inspection on an off-market deal, only to face huge repair bills to meet lender standards. We discuss why DSCR lenders reject "C5" properties, the hidden trap of "double closing costs" with bridge loans, and why a 1.0 DSCR ratio actually means you're losing money.
Master Passive Income Real Estate Investing in Rental Property
Join me in Nashville at Income Building Live! https://masterpassiveincome.com/iblGet 10% off your pass with promo code: DUSTINGet my real estate investing course for free! https://masterpassiveincome.com/freecourse//BEST REAL ESTATE INVESTING RESOURCE LINKSStart your LLC for FREE! https://masterpassiveincome.com/formanllcGreat High Interest Savings Account: https://masterpassiveincome.com/citGet your business bank account here: https://masterpassiveincome.com/baselaneGet your business credit card with 2% Cash Back with NO FEE! https://masterpassiveincome.com/amexLearn more about Dustin Heiner and find resources to build an automatic real estate investing business: https://masterpassiveincome.com/The primary focus of this podcast episode is to elucidate the notion that money should not be perceived as an insurmountable obstacle in the pursuit of real estate investment. I present a comprehensive exploration of at least fourteen distinct strategies for securing financing, designed to empower aspiring investors to acquire properties and generate consistent cash flow.Through a methodical examination of each financing option, I aim to dismantle the common misconception that a lack of funds precludes individuals from embarking on their investment journeys. Furthermore, I share personal anecdotes and testimonials from students who have successfully navigated similar challenges, thereby underscoring the accessibility of real estate investment for all.It is my fervent hope that listeners will be inspired to recognize the myriad avenues available to them, ultimately leading to their financial independence and the relinquishment of traditional employment.Links referenced in this episode:incomebuildinglive.commasterpassiveincome.com/freecoursefinancial independence, quit your job, real estate investing, passive income, financing options, creative financing, rental properties, property investment, investment strategies, cash flow, money management, DSCR loans, FHA loans, hard money loans, seller financing, private money loans, portfolio loans, home equity loans, investment coaching, financial educationNOTE: This description may contains affiliate links to products we enjoy using ourselves. Should you choose to use these links, this channel may earn affiliate commissions at no additional cost to you. We appreciate your support!Mentioned in this episode:Join Me In Nashville For Income Building LiveGet your pass for Income Building Live here: https://masterpassiveincome.com/iblIncome Building LiveGet 10% OFF your pass with Promo: DUSTIN https://www.incomebuildinglive.com
Investor Fuel Real Estate Investing Mastermind - Audio Version
In this conversation, Craig Melton shares his extensive experience in the real estate industry, discussing his journey from lending to short-term rentals. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the financial aspects of real estate, building strong relationships, and adapting to market changes. Craig also provides insights into the short-term rental market, innovative lending options, and practical advice for new investors looking to enter the rental space. Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind: Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply Investor Machine Marketing Partnership: Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com Coaching with Mike Hambright: Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform! Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/ New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club —--------------------
Investor Fuel Real Estate Investing Mastermind - Audio Version
In this conversation, Michael Pankow shares his extensive experience in the real estate and mortgage industry, discussing his unique advantages, market opportunities, and the importance of discipline and fundamentals in achieving success. He emphasizes the significance of educating clients about DSCR loans and building strong relationships within the industry. Michael also outlines his future goals and aspirations, highlighting his passion for helping veterans and seniors in real estate. Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind: Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply Investor Machine Marketing Partnership: Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com Coaching with Mike Hambright: Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform! Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/ New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club —--------------------
Global Investors: Foreign Investing In US Real Estate with Charles Carillo
In this episode of the Global Investors Podcast, Charles Carillo sits down with Saurabh Shah, PropTech entrepreneur and co-founder of InstaLend, to break down how asset-based lending is changing the way real estate investors finance deals in today's market. Saurabh brings a rare perspective—combining Wall Street experience in investment banking and private equity with hands-on real estate investing. Together, they unpack why traditional lending models fail active investors, how asset-based underwriting works, and why speed, flexibility, and common-sense underwriting matter more than ever. This conversation dives deep into the real mechanics of investor financing, including fix-and-flip loans, construction lending, DSCR mortgages, BRRRR strategies, and how technology is eliminating friction in rehab draws and closings. If you're a real estate investor looking to close faster, scale smarter, and recycle capital more efficiently, this episode is for you. Learn More About Saurabh Here: InstaLend - https://www.instalend.com/ Connect with the Global Investors Show, Charles Carillo and Harborside Partners: ◾ Setup a FREE 30 Minute Strategy Call with Charles: http://ScheduleCharles.com ◾ Learn How To Invest In Real Estate: https://www.SyndicationSuperstars.com/ ◾ FREE Passive Investing Guide: http://www.HSPguide.com ◾ Join Our Weekly Email Newsletter: http://www.HSPsignup.com ◾ Passively Invest in Real Estate: http://www.InvestHSP.com ◾ Global Investors Web Page: http://GlobalInvestorsPodcast.com/
If you want to know the real estate deals that most investors avoid, this episode is for you! Join in as Joel Kraut shares how he built a decades-long career financing "hard-to-lend" properties like gas stations, car washes, hotels, self-storage, and owner-occupied businesses. Listen now to learn how focusing on overlooked assets can unlock durable wealth and long-term opportunity. Key Takeaways To Listen For Why private and creative financing unlock deals banks won't touch How one gas-station loan unexpectedly became a career-defining niche Environmental realities that make gas-station financing misunderstood Businesses that are increasingly attractive to community banks The golden rule of private lending you should be aware of Resources/Links Mentioned In This Episode Who Not How by Dan Sullivan with Dr. Benjamin Hardy | Paperback and Hardcover VTSAX-Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund Admiral Shares About Joel KrautJoel Kraut is the founder of BRRRR Loans, a lending company specializing in financing solutions for real estate investors using the BRRRR strategy (Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat). With deep expertise in DSCR loans, short-term rentals, and investor-focused mortgage products, Joel helps investors scale rental portfolios without relying on traditional income verification. Known for his hands-on, investor-first approach, he works closely with clients to structure financing that supports long-term cash flow, velocity, and portfolio growth. Connect with Joel Website: Brrrr Loans Connect With UsIf you're looking to invest your hard-earned money into cash-flowing, value-add assets, reach out to us at https://bobocapitalventures.com/. Follow Keith's social media pages LinkedIn: Keith Borie Investor Club: Secret Passive Cashflow Investors Club Facebook: Keith Borie X: @BoboLlc80554
This episode is for real estate investors who feel stuck because banks cap them at one or two properties, and their debt-to-income ratio kills further approvals. Ryan walks through how DSCR loans underwrite cash-flowing rentals instead of your W2, how to avoid low DSCR and appraisal traps, and when to use non-QM DSCR loans instead of conventional financing so you can safely own three solid doors instead of being stuck with one.
Chris Lopez welcomes Seattle-based investor/author Leka Devatha to unpack how she built from flips to a diversified active/passive portfolio—plus what's actually working in a high-cost, tenant-friendly market. Leka breaks down her first LP deal (why operator selection and interest-rate caps mattered), a 12-unit Seattle value-add that tripled gross rents, and the creative lending + multi-exit playbook behind her new book, Return on Real Estate. She shares a tactical framework for sourcing, underwriting, and operating in micro-markets—and how middle-housing zoning (ADUs, townhomes, duplexes) is shaping her 2026 pipeline. Key Takeaways Operator first: In 2021–22 vintage deals, disciplined sponsors with interest-rate caps, tight PM, and no fee-grab mentality have fared best. Value-add or bust (in HCOL markets): Buy below market due to deferred maintenance; renovate only what's required to hit rent and NOI targets. Operations edge: Strict tenant standards, vigilant expense control, and local PM who understands tenant-friendly statutes are non-negotiable. Creative capital stack: Build a lender bench (conventional, DSCR, hard money) and use tools like short-term cash-out refis with no prepay to bridge seasonality. Micro-market focus: Know the streets, views, and comps; Seattle's middle-housing rules unlock ADUs/townhomes/duplexes on former SF lots. Stack exits: Example—flip the front house, build/condo-map a DADU, keep as a long-term rental, refi to pull cash while holding quality dirt. Active → Passive: If you're newer, learn by placing small LP checks with proven, local operators before scaling your own projects. Next 12–24 months: Fewer “easy” wins, but more mispriced opportunities for operators who can create value and manage tightly. Disclaimer The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.
Master Passive Income Real Estate Investing in Rental Property
Join me on the Million Dollar Investor Masterclass: https://masterpassiveincome.com/masterclassJoin me in Nashville at Income Building Live! https://masterpassiveincome.com/iblGet 10% off your pass with promo code: DUSTINGet my real estate investing course for free! https://masterpassiveincome.com/freecourse//BEST REAL ESTATE INVESTING RESOURCE LINKSStart your LLC for FREE! https://masterpassiveincome.com/formanllcGreat High Interest Savings Account: https://masterpassiveincome.com/citGet your business bank account here: https://masterpassiveincome.com/baselaneGet your business credit card with 2% Cash Back with NO FEE! https://masterpassiveincome.com/amexLearn more about Dustin Heiner and find resources to build an automatic real estate investing business: https://masterpassiveincome.com/The primary focus of this podcast episode is to elucidate the notion that money should not be perceived as an insurmountable obstacle in the pursuit of real estate investment. I present a comprehensive exploration of at least fourteen distinct strategies for securing financing, designed to empower aspiring investors to acquire properties and generate consistent cash flow.Through a methodical examination of each financing option, I aim to dismantle the common misconception that a lack of funds precludes individuals from embarking on their investment journeys. Furthermore, I share personal anecdotes and testimonials from students who have successfully navigated similar challenges, thereby underscoring the accessibility of real estate investment for all.It is my fervent hope that listeners will be inspired to recognize the myriad avenues available to them, ultimately leading to their financial independence and the relinquishment of traditional employment.Links referenced in this episode:incomebuildinglive.commasterpassiveincome.com/freecoursefinancial independence, quit your job, real estate investing, passive income, financing options, creative financing, rental properties, property investment, investment strategies, cash flow, money management, DSCR loans, FHA loans, hard money loans, seller financing, private money loans, portfolio loans, home equity loans, investment coaching, financial educationNOTE: This description may contains affiliate links to products we enjoy using ourselves. Should you choose to use these links, this channel may earn affiliate commissions at no additional cost to you. We appreciate your support!Mentioned in this episode:Join Me In Nashville For Income Building LiveGet your pass for Income Building Live here: https://masterpassiveincome.com/iblJoin Me In Nashville For Income Building LiveGet your pass for...
Investor Fuel Real Estate Investing Mastermind - Audio Version
In this conversation, Paul LeJoy, a mortgage broker and real estate investor, shares his journey from being a tech professional to becoming a successful mortgage broker in California. He discusses the importance of understanding various loan programs, particularly DSCR loans, and how they can benefit both investors and first-time homebuyers. Paul emphasizes the need for community-oriented real estate development, aiming to create multi-generational living spaces that foster connectivity among residents. He also highlights the evolving landscape of real estate financing and the potential for innovative loan structures to support diverse segments of the market. Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind: Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply Investor Machine Marketing Partnership: Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com Coaching with Mike Hambright: Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform! Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/ New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club —--------------------
In this episode of the Get Creative Podcast, host Keola Keala sits down with Adam Levine — Sub2, Gator, and Owners Club member with 10+ years in hard money lending — to break down a real-world Morby Method (aka “Stack Method”) transaction that helped an investor buy rental properties with as little as 5% out of pocket. Adam explains how he solved a complex portfolio-buying problem by combining: A DSCR loan (long-term rental financing based on cash flow, not tax returns) A seller carry / seller finance second private money placed into escrow to “stack” the down payment The right title company + transaction coordination to keep everything moving Connect with Adam: https://www.facebook.com/adam.levine.928518 ➡️ RSVP for a FREE Section 8 training with Pace (LIVE): https://subto.sjv.io/JK9LYE ➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour ➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb ➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace ➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing ➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb ➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW ➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG ➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit COMMUNITY MEMBERS! ➡️ Get Featured on the Get Creative Podcast: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeGuestForm Refer a Friend to SubTo: refer.nre.ai/subto Refer a Friend to TTTC: refer.nre.ai/tttc Refer a Friend to Gator: refer.nre.ai/gator PLUG IN & SUBSCRIBE Creative Real Estate Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/creativefinancewithpacemorby Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pacemorby/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PaceMorby TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pacemorby X: https://x.com/PaceJordanMorby The Pace Morby Show: https://www.youtube.com/@thepacemorbyshow
How should multifamily deals really be underwritten in 2026?In this live LSCRE podcast, we break down how we are underwriting multifamily real estate today and the critical mistakes investors and sponsors don't realize until years 3–5.This episode covers real-world underwriting decisions we're making right now, including:Why underwriting mistakes don't show up in year oneCash flow vs IRR (and how cash flow can be manipulated)The hidden risk of in-the-money interest rate capsHow location repricing is changing acquisitionsTrue rents, fees, and concessions (what most people miss)Why most “value-add” deals don't work in today's marketLoaded ICR vs DSCR and how we evaluate debt riskWhat real multifamily distress actually looks likeHow LSCRE is positioning acquisitions for long-term cash flowWe also answer live investor questions and explain how these principles apply to a real multifamily acquisition we just closed.Learn more about LSCRE:www.lscre.com
Kevin Kim's 2026 Predictions Might Surprise You - #318 Chris and Jason welcome back Kevin Kim, Partner at Fortra Law (formerly Geraci LLP), for a timely conversation on what's ahead for private lending, hard money lending, and DSCR loans in 2026. Kevin shares insights from working with lenders of all sizes and breaks down how excess capital, increased competition, and securitization are reshaping the industry—and why some lenders are thriving while others are struggling.
Send us a textEver feel like the housing market is a maze with moving walls? We brought together a 20-year realtor who treats every purchase like an investment and a lender who rebuilt his playbook around non-QM lending to show exactly how buyers, sellers, and investors can win right now. No fluff—just the strategies that still close in a high-rate, low-fit inventory environment.We break down the real dynamics behind “high but not the highest” rates, why inventory feels wrong for most budgets, and how buyer hesitation often kills good deals. You'll hear how remote work and 1099 income changed underwriting, why DSCR, bank statement, and 1099 loans matter, and how to structure tough files using grants and seller credits without smoke and mirrors. If you've wondered whether to wait for rates to dip, we map the tradeoffs: when financing costs fall, demand and prices usually rise. Renting remains 100% interest; ownership gives options—refinance later, sell, or rent out your home if life shifts.We also get tactical. Learn the duplex house-hack that boosts buying power on day one, the exact steps for clean documentation and fewer last-minute surprises, and the simple process upgrades—like group-text introductions and a short video walkthrough of the closing disclosure—that reduce anxiety and speed up closings. For agents, it's a masterclass in fundamentals and staying in your lane; for lenders, a reminder to own cash-to-close clarity and communicate early. For renters and first-time buyers, it's a clear path from fear to a plan.If you're serious about real estate in 2026—buying, selling, investing, or staying sharp as a pro—this conversation gives you the mindset and the tools. Subscribe, share with a friend who needs the nudge, and leave a review with your biggest question—we may feature it next. Quote Cards for SocialMark Jones
Real estate investors using or considering DSCR loans who worry about appraisals blowing up their deals will learn how value, comps, and rent estimates really impact approvals and refis. Ryan breaks down why every strategy—DSCR loans, bank financing, cash purchases, and 1031 exchanges—still depends on appraisals, and how understanding comps, rental neighborhoods, and the 1007 rent schedule can help you price deals correctly, protect your DSCR ratio, and avoid letting low appraisals kill your next investment.
Master Passive Income Real Estate Investing in Rental Property
Join me on the Million Dollar Investor Masterclass: https://masterpassiveincome.com/masterclassJoin me in Nashville at Income Building Live! https://masterpassiveincome.com/iblGet 10% off your pass with promo code: DUSTINGet my real estate investing course for free! https://masterpassiveincome.com/freecourse//BEST REAL ESTATE INVESTING RESOURCE LINKSStart your LLC for FREE! https://masterpassiveincome.com/formanllcGreat High Interest Savings Account: https://masterpassiveincome.com/citGet your business bank account here: https://masterpassiveincome.com/baselaneGet your business credit card with 2% Cash Back with NO FEE! https://masterpassiveincome.com/amexLearn more about Dustin Heiner and find resources to build an automatic real estate investing business: https://masterpassiveincome.com/The primary focus of this podcast episode is to elucidate the notion that money should not be perceived as an insurmountable obstacle in the pursuit of real estate investment. I present a comprehensive exploration of at least fourteen distinct strategies for securing financing, designed to empower aspiring investors to acquire properties and generate consistent cash flow.Through a methodical examination of each financing option, I aim to dismantle the common misconception that a lack of funds precludes individuals from embarking on their investment journeys. Furthermore, I share personal anecdotes and testimonials from students who have successfully navigated similar challenges, thereby underscoring the accessibility of real estate investment for all.It is my fervent hope that listeners will be inspired to recognize the myriad avenues available to them, ultimately leading to their financial independence and the relinquishment of traditional employment.Links referenced in this episode:incomebuildinglive.commasterpassiveincome.com/freecoursefinancial independence, quit your job, real estate investing, passive income, financing options, creative financing, rental properties, property investment, investment strategies, cash flow, money management, DSCR loans, FHA loans, hard money loans, seller financing, private money loans, portfolio loans, home equity loans, investment coaching, financial educationNOTE: This description may contains affiliate links to products we enjoy using ourselves. Should you choose to use these links, this channel may earn affiliate commissions at no additional cost to you. We appreciate your support!Mentioned in this episode:Join Me In Nashville For Income Building LiveGet your pass for Income Building Live here: https://masterpassiveincome.com/iblJoin Me In Nashville For Income Building LiveGet your pass for...
Most investors assume the only way to buy rental properties is through a traditional bank. Perfect W2 income. Clean tax returns. Endless paperwork. For anyone who is self employed, owns a business, or already investing, that system is broken. And it stops people from ever getting started. In this episode, Cory sits down with Jonathan Yoo and Dustin Rosenberg, co founders of Convoy Home Loans, to break down how everyday investors are buying and scaling rental properties without relying on traditional banks. They explain the lending tools most people never hear about, including DSCR loans and non bank financing options that focus on the property's income instead of your personal tax returns. We walk through how these loans actually work in plain English, who they are best for, and when they make sense for beginners versus experienced investors. Jonathan and Dustin also share what they are seeing across markets nationwide, why waiting for perfect interest rates can cost you years of progress, and how investors are using today's quieter market to buy smarter while others sit on the sidelines. This conversation also dives into partnership, building a business alongside investing, and why understanding financing early gives you a massive advantage long term. If you are trying to buy your first rental, scale past a few properties, or feel stuck because banks keep saying no, this episode will show you a simpler path forward and help you rethink what is actually possible.This is not about gaming the system. It is about learning how the system really works so you can use it with confidence. Book your call with Neo Home Loanshttps://www.neoentrepreneurhomeloans.com/wealthjuice/ Book your mentorship discovery call with Cory RESOURCES
Real estate investors planning 2026 financing who are torn between DSCR loans, local banks, or cash will learn how each option affects approvals, portfolio caps, and personal DTI. You'll hear what DSCR lenders actually require, how they compare to banks on speed and paperwork, how cash plus delayed financing impacts scaling, and what to consider with prepayment penalties and working with a broker who can shop 200+ lenders.
Agent Marketer Podcast - Real Estate Marketing for the Modern Agent
Send us a textIn this special New Year's edition of The MLO Project, Frazier and Michael tackle two hot headlines shaping the future of the mortgage industry. From National Mortgage News' prediction that 2026 will be the industry's “reset year” to HousingWire's deep dive on the growing dominance of DSCR loans—this episode is packed with straight talk, strategic insights, and zero fluff.Frazier breaks down key takeaways from the “2026 reset” article, calling out the recycled advice on chasing shiny objects, while uncovering powerful truths about layered affordability solutions and compliance complacency. Michael fires back with a deeper look at DSCR momentum, TCPA liability, API key nightmares, and why brokers need to wake up about their exposure.Whether you're fired up for growth or still dragging from 2025, this conversation is your reality check heading into the new year.
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Keith shares a mindset-shifting quote from John D. Rockefeller that challenges the idea of trading time for money. He revisits some of the year's most powerful real estate investing lessons, and breaks down the big forces shaping today's housing market—affordability, supply & demand, demographics, and interest rates. All of this sets the stage for his data-driven national home price outlook for next year—without the usual crash-and-doom hype. Episode Page: GetRichEducation.com/586 For access to properties or free help with a GRE Investment Coach, start here: GREmarketplace.com GRE Free Investment Coaching: GREinvestmentcoach.com Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Invest with Freedom Family Investments. For predictable 10-12% quarterly returns, visit FreedomFamilyInvestments.com/GRE or text 1-937-795-8989 to speak with a freedom coach Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review" For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com or text 'GRE' to 66866 Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript: Keith Weinhold 0:00 Welcome to GRE. I'm your host. Keith Weinhold, learn from a quote attributed to the world's first billionaire, it will change how you see wealth building. I'll explain why national home prices have never crashed. Then it's gre, 2026, home price appreciation forecast. You'll learn the future the exact percent that home prices will appreciate or depreciate next year. Today on get rich education Speaker 1 0:29 since 2014 the powerful get rich education podcast has created more passive income for people than nearly any other show in the world. This show teaches you how to earn strong returns from passive real estate investing in the best markets without losing your time being a flipper or landlord. Show Host Keith Weinhold writes for both Forbes and Rich Dad advisors and delivers a new show every week since 2014 there's been millions of listener downloads of 188 world nations. He has a list show guests include top selling personal finance author Robert Kiyosaki. Get rich education can be heard on every podcast platform, plus it has its own dedicated Apple and Android listener phone apps build wealth on the go with the get rich education podcast. Sign up now for the get rich education podcast, or visit get rich education.com Corey Coates 1:14 You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is get rich education. Keith Weinhold 1:30 Welcome to GRE from Lake Huron, Michigan to Lake Tahoe, California and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Weinhold, and you're listening to get rich education. You know something I love, quotes that shift your entire mindset, paradigm, and once your mind is shifted, actions follow. Actions develop into patterns. Those patterns become habits, and habits become the new, transformed you few quotes hit harder than the one from resource tycoon John D Rockefeller. He lived from 1839 to 1937 in fact, Rockefeller is widely regarded as the world's first billionaire. His quote, you might have heard it before. It is this, he who works all day has no time to make money. That sounds paradoxical, even provocative. It's sort of like it's inviting you to come in and want to learn more about it. And this is because most people's concept of income generating is to work 40 hours a week for a salary or an hourly wage. But what does that quote really mean? He who works all day has no time to make money, and be sure to capture the all day part of that quote that ties right back into the show that I did with you two weeks ago about the K shaped economy breakdown, where you learned about how capital compounds labor doesn't most people sell their time for dollars, but trading time for money makes you too busy to actually build Wealth. Working and building wealth. Those things are two separate distinct activities in how you're investing your time and energy. Now, most people start out with a wage or a salary job. I surely worked by pushing brooms and cubicle dwelling before investing in my first rental property. But if you're working all day in a job, physically or mentally well, then you're consumed by tasks that only pay you. Once you're occupied, you can often get exhausted and you're only concerned with short term output. You're focused on the next deadline, not the next decade, when all your hours are spent on labor, you have no bandwidth to do what you need to do, which is, create vision, acquire assets, build a portfolio, develop systems, learn tax strategy, evaluate investment deals, network with like minded investors, or refine your strategy with a GRE investment coach. Be cognizant that labor only pays today. Wealth building pays forever. Even if your work a day job, salary doubled, you would have to ask, how would that even build wealth? You could retire earlier, but you would have to keep working the hours, and let's remember that wealth equals freedom. You can't architect a wealth plan from the assembly line. Now, that's something that Rockefeller would have agreed with. Wealth requires less. Leverage and labor has none. So working all day means no leverage. You are the engine instead making money, that means using leverage, and instead of you being the engine, well, the engine is something else, like assets, systems, technology, other people's time, other people's money, and borrowing to inflation profit. Rockefeller believed and proved that leverage beats labor 100 to one. He's not discouraging work. In fact, it's just the wrong type of work, because he was one of the hardest working people alive. And really the bottom line here, with this quote, he who works all day has no time to make money, is that Rockefeller meant that if you spend your life doing tasks, you'll never rise high enough to own things that pay you for life. Earning a living is a different activity than building wealth, and once your mindset is shifted, actions follow, yep, actions develop into patterns, and those patterns become the new you. well as the last episode of the year on the show here, 52 weeks worth, I sure hope that I've helped you think, learn and grow your wealth, as have our guest contributors here early in the year, the father of Reaganomics was here, a man that frequently advised a president inside the White House. He told us how much he dislikes tariffs. Tariffs block free trade, and trade improves our lives. Major apartment investor, Ken McElroy, was here this year, and he predicted that the American home ownership rate will fall below 60% that would be major it's currently at 65 if the home ownership rate falls to 60% that would unleash millions of new renters into the market, and it has not been that low in decades, if ever you got a lot of mortgage insights with chailey Ridge, including learning how you can qualify for income property loans without a w2 job, without a pay stub or without tax returns by instead getting a DSCR loan. You'll recall this year that I discussed 50 year mortgages, and I did that before it even hit the news cycle, telling you that it could be coming and that it could be proposed. I explained why I like 50 year mortgages more than 30 year loans, but be aware it is not imminent that they're coming. Also this year, economist Richard Duncan and commentator Doug Casey discussed the Fed. Richard told us how the President is trying to totally restructure who serves on the Fed, trying to get low interest rate pushers in there. And then just last week, Doug and I discussed how fed decisions just keep hollowing out the middle class. A and E television star Todd drillette told us how to negotiate. I had four good discussions with our own investment coach, nuresh this year, more than usual, a pastor and I discussed a rare topic, what the Bible says about money. You learned how to use AI in your real estate investing and when not to. We had a few episodes about that. But above all the shows this year, they were about you, probably more than any other year that we've had here. I did more listener question episodes where I answered your questions as you wrote in, and I also had more listeners come right onto the show and tell me how this show has personally built their wealth. And of course, this year, I got to meet more of you in person when I served as a faculty member on the terrific real estate guys Investor Summit to see and I got to meet you personally for more than just a handshake. The event was set up so that chances are you had dinner with me as well. So rather than this show being a one way chat from me to you this year was more of a dialog between you and I and more two way communication. A lot of new topics are coming for next year, both me teaching and some great guests. If there's something on the show that you'd like to hear more of or less of, let us know. Write into us or use your voice to tell us either way you can do that. At get rich education.com/contact, let us know what you want to hear more of or less of. Do you like shorter term tactics like when and how to increase the rent? Or do you like mid range tactics like how to constantly do cash out refinances and get a tax free windfall from your properties every year. Or do you like more of the long term strategies like specifically how you profit from inflation? Let us know what you like again, at get rich education.com/contact, now, even if you're listening 10 years. Years from now, which I know you very well. May, I'm going to break down next year's home price appreciation forecast, but I'll do it in a way where you'll learn how to analyze a market for all time coming up. It's gre 2026, national home price appreciation forecast. Learn the future to the exact percent. First listen to this from Freedom family investments and Ridge lending group, because I'm a client of both myself and they can help you. I'm your host. Keith Weinhold Keith Weinhold 10:29 you know, most people think they're playing it safe with their liquid money, but they're actually losing savings accounts and bonds don't keep up when true inflation eats six or 7% of your wealth. Every single year I invest my liquidity with FFI freedom family investments in their flagship program. 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Start your prequel and even chat with President Caeli Ridge personally. While it's on your mind, start at Ridge lending group.com that's Ridge lending group.com Robert Kiyosaki 12:14 this is our Rich Dad, Poor Dad. Author Robert Kiyosaki. Listen to get rich education with Keith Weinhold. And there is, I respect Kate. He's a very strong, smart, bright young man. Keith Weinhold 12:35 Welcome back to get rich education. It's episode 586 the last show of the year. I'm your host. Keith Weinhold, I am proud to present to you in this segment of the show gre 2026, national home price appreciation forecast, where I use my insight and experience so that you'll learn the exact percent that national home prices will either appreciate or depreciate next year. It's the fifth consecutive year that we're doing this. I nailed the first three spot on and then this year happened. I'll get to reviewing my track record, total accountability. First understand something, real estate values have never crashed in your entire lifetime, even if you're 90 years old, to grab eyeballs, slack jawed, tick tock. Call them crash talk. Economists keep making awful predictions about a housing price crash, and none of them have been worse than one that published last month in Newsweek, which outlines a as it's called, correction worse than 2008 and says national home prices will fall 50% five zero, starting as soon as next year. That's absurd, and I can't believe that a respectable publication would platform a view from an analyst like that, and I'm not going to call out that Doomsayer analyst's name. That's not my style. I'm sure you can find it that crash is about as likely as one social media post changing your political affiliation later today. Look, doomsayers don't care about you. They make dire predictions because they care about them. It elevates their clicks, their followers and their name recognition, and they never hang around to follow up on that prediction, but it harms you, because you miss out on the equity gains, and that's the real damage. In fact, this particular analyst also called for this year to have the second largest home price decline since World War Two. Well, national home prices have only fallen twice in that time period. In fact, going further back. Back to the 1930s Great Depression. They've only fallen twice. Yes, that means home prices have risen every single year since the 1930s except for two periods, a small decline of less than 1% around 1990 and then, of course, the severe downturn from the housing bubble and great recession from 2007 to 2011 or 2012 that's where prices dropped in total, 25 to 26% from peak to trough. Now why do I say that that period around 2008 was not a housing price crash. Well, because it wasn't. Instead, it was a slow bleed. The definition of financial crash is a sudden, sharp and widespread drop in prices. That's the definition. Well that can happen in some other asset classes like stocks or Bitcoin or perhaps even precious metals, but not real estate. It is neither sudden nor sharp. The worst year, 2008 saw home prices drop 12% in that one year and some of the other years bracketing it, home prices fell three to 4% in each of those years. So then during this time period of price attrition, during the global financial crisis, each month, real estate values fell just a few tenths of 1% maybe half of 1% or even one full percent, not a crash, a slow bleed. This means that it took about five years for values to fall, a total of near 25% I mean, that makes it really clear that it's not a crash. And again, this period was about 2007 to 2012 don't get me wrong, it was bad. I was a real estate investor both before and during 2008 but to call it a crash is hyperbolic, and that is because words mean things. I think a lot of media consumers get so conditioned to mass media sensationalism that they've forgotten what a crash even means. At some point, it begins to bend our very lexicon back around 2007 I remember I frequently checked a website called implode meter. Yeah, that's the name of it. It tracks, failing banks. I looked the other day and implodemeter.com is still in existence, even though it's not nearly as spicy as it used to be during the GFC, because lending has been pretty stable for a long time, and loans are well and carefully underwritten. So home prices are unusually stable over time, because, in a sense, housing is not a normal market. It is slow, regulated, credit driven, and it's emotionally sticky, even though rental property is less emotional. Well, the values of one to four unit property are tied to primary residence values, and that's where the emotion exists. So if you put all those together, you get prices that creep upward most years and rarely fall at all. Nationally. The real estate market moves too gradually to be crash susceptible. It is the place for real wealth building values also are not going to double annually if you want to scroll for dopamine hits from the couch. Well, you can do that with a prediction market like call she or in crypto with altcoins, while your real estate keeps leveraging dollars in a stable way in the background. That's how you can think about it. All right, so we've established since the Great Depression, home values have fallen twice and once substantially. Well, right now, home prices are up about 2% year over year. Most places have appreciated, especially the more affordable markets. Not only has home price growth been slow, though, rent growth has been slow as well. Single Family rents are up 1% per totality. Apartment rents are down one to 2% per Zumper. But back to our focus today, forecasting national home prices. Everything we're discussing is nominal price change, meaning not inflation adjusted, and it's single family homes up to fourplexes. Well, as we use context to build up to the big reveal today, where I'll tell you the exact percent that home prices will rise or fall next year. Could 2008 happen again any time soon? Let's isolate that out. It's important to look at history rather than. Having some uninformed hunch in both periods with price attrition around 1990 and 2008 these two falls have some attributes in common. So let's look at that. What led to these rare falls in home prices, irresponsible lending, forced selling, a vacancy issue and overbuilding. All four of those factors were in place during those two periods now leading up to 1990 the irresponsible lending was on the commercial side. That was the savings and loan crisis, but it did trickle into the residential market, and then in 2008 it was on the residential side. But of all four of those factors, none of them are in place today. Zero borrowers are strongly underwritten because they've got those full documentation loans, and virtually no one is forced to sell in a fire sale. In fact, homeowners still have these record equity positions of about 300k fewer than 3% of homeowners have a negative equity position, and there is no vacancy issue. Because, in fact, we've been under building. We'll look at that. So for next year, no substantial price of drawdown is coming. None's expected. We can isolate that out. Since I was investing directly in real estate through 2008 I know what happened is that when people walked away from properties, they did so because the economy got rough, their variable rate mortgages rose, they couldn't make their payments, or they just had no motivation to make their payments because they were underwater and had zero protective equity. In a lot of cases, it's almost impossible for that to happen today, homeowners can make their payments, and they're motivated to do so because they have that erstwhile equity to protect, like I said last week, through the Census Bureau data and realtor.com we know a couple things. Four in 10 homeowners have no mortgage at all. They own their property free and clear. Among the group with mortgages, 70% of borrowers still have a mortgage rate locked in at under 5% and blending those together for you means that then 82% of borrowers either have no mortgage or they've got a rate under 5% this translates to really affordable payments, along with The protective equity, even if inflation heats up again, it still cannot touch a borrower's mortgage payment amount because it is fixed. As we're leading up to the big reveal of next year's number, we're about to look at affordability, supply, demand and the effect of mortgage rates on prices. Of course, that word affordability, that has been the most central word to home buying for a couple years now, affordability will improve in three main ways. If either home prices fall, mortgage rates fall, or wages rise, it takes at least one of those three things, the good news is that this year, wages have been rising faster than both stated inflation and home prices. Wages have been rising close to 4% that looks to continue at least into the early part of next year. Well that improved affordability allows home prices to move up, and it gives room for rents to move up as well. Now when it comes to mortgage rates, if you're new to listening to me, it will be groundbreaking for you to realize that today, mortgage rates are low, and increases to mortgage rates usually lead to increases in home prices, not decreases. If you're new here, both of those facts might leave you saying what I thought it was the opposite. How can that be? I won't spend much time on this because longtime listeners already know these two things, but they do go into the forecast the long term 30 year fixed rate mortgage averages 7.7% per Freddie Mac thirst, that set goes back to 1971 and rates are lower than that now, and mortgage rates have risen 1% or more seven different times since 1994 and home prices increased all Seven times right alongside those rising mortgage rates. In fact, when rates more than doubled in 2022 what happened? Home prices soared to their highest appreciation year in a long time. It reinforced this so, yes, way higher rates equaled way. Higher prices. It's not that one directly causes the other. This is correlation versus causation. It's because rate increases confirm that the economy is doing well. I have discussed that extensively in previous episodes, so mortgage rates actually don't have that much to do with home prices, and that's why it is hardly going into the forecast for next year. I'll tell you what trying to forecast mortgage rates to then use that to predict home prices, that is a fantastic way to waste your time. Now, 1x factor that could make that different for next year is that this President, he imposes his will to make rates low no matter what. So even if the economy is good, which typically leads to higher rates, wholesale push to make rates low, and that's an artificial phenomenon. Wouldn't that make home prices boom if we had a strong economy and low rates? The fact that affordability is still historically low today, though, we appear to be off the bottom. Affordability is still historically low today, that has less to do with mortgage rates than most people think, since, again, rates are low when they're in the low sixes, like they currently are. Instead, affordability is soured, because over the long term, decades, wages haven't kept up with true inflation. That's what's really going on with affordability and what everybody misses, and because affordability is still strained, home prices cannot rise a lot, say 10 or 12% next year. That can't happen on a national basis next year, now, a bill is advancing through Congress now to make housing more affordable. It's got bipartisan support relaxing zoning requirements in such a bill that could help build more homes, but if the government tries to help by making access to loans easier, that is going to lead to even higher prices and really will not help with affordability beyond the short term. In fact, just this month, the Fed has resumed QE quantitative easing. And that effectively means that it is ramping up the number of dollars being printed. And these are just more dollars in existence coming in to chase real estate and every other assets values higher we look at the employment picture. Although unemployment has been ticking up lately, it is still low at under 5% what about housing supply versus demand? And future supply versus demand? Well, this is basic econ and it will totally affect future prices. Actually visited the home of the father of economics, Adam Smith in Scotland this year, the man that nearly invented the supply demand concept starting with supply. I think anyone in real estate knows that generally, over six months of housing supply is too much. Under six months is too little. Six months is sort of that balanced point. What does that really mean? Well, months of supply is how long it would take to sell all the homes currently for sale if no new listings came on the market. All right, that's all that means. Well, currently, that level is 4.2 months that is low, and that puts some upward pressure on prices as well. Another way to think about it is with the active listing count of single family homes and condos. All this means is the number of homes currently for sale and available to buy right now. That's what active listing count means when you see that statistic out there? Well, one and a half to 2 million is the normal level of units needed to adequately house our growing population, for single family homes and condos. Well, that figure bottomed out in 2022 and it's only hovered around one or 1.1 million for a few months now, we are under supplied, and it takes a long time to build our way out of it. Now, apartment buildings are a different story. They are oversupplied, but again, today, we're here focused on the future price direction of one to four unit properties. So that's supply, not as tight as it was, but still on the tight side, and then demand. Where is demand coming from? It comes from us. There's more of us. As our population keeps growing, there is a lot of housing demand coming. Not only is there pent up demand from those trying to afford a home as soon as they can, but more broadly. Demographically, I will point back to that period where there was a surge of us births from 1990 to 2010 there were over 4 million births every single one of those years, births peaked in 2007 if you add 40 years to that, because 40 years is now the average age of the first time homebuyer. That's still a mind blowing figure to me, 40 years the average age of the first time homebuyer. You add that to 2007 that peak birth rate year, and this demand won't even peak until about 2047 Speaker 2 30:36 and this doesn't even include additions from immigration, demand, demand, demand, propping up prices for decades, but for next year, improved affordability, which is expected that boosts the demand for those that have the capacity to pay. Well, considering everything we've covered, I'm about to reveal the number for next year. But first, I mean, gosh, don't you wish everyone actually followed up on their past forecasts, like I'm about to I don't think I've ever seen a price crash predictor follow up, because they're always wrong. Well, what is the track record of get rich, education, home, price appreciation forecasts. It's the fifth straight year I'm doing this, and I always release the forecast in the final days of the year in anticipation of the coming year, just like you and I are doing together now. For 2022 I said that prices would rise nine to 10% the year ended, and they came in at 10% 2023 a lot of people said home prices would fall because they had just seen a terrific run up. I said a price fall would not happen, largely due to that jaw droppingly low supply that we had then. I said zero, there wouldn't be any change. They came in at exactly zero. There was no price change in 2023 for 2024 I forecast 4% they came in at exactly 4% this is all documented. You can go back and listen to those episodes. They're all near year end. So yes, three straight years, I nailed it to the exact percent. How about this year? Just before the year began? Do you remember what my forecast figure was from listening here about a year ago, it was 5% home price appreciation. The year is not over yet, and real estate statistics move pretty slowly. Figures lag, but we pretty much know where it's going to end up. And as we look at this same stat set that I consistently use, which is the NARS national median existing single family home price, it is 2.2% as of late in the year, and it's almost certainly going to end up at 2% appreciation. So I would call that a miss, probably not a terrible call, but far enough apart to call that a miss, 5% forecast versus 2% actual for this year. That's the track record. So before I reveal the number for next year, in the last four I've nailed three of them spot on, and why was appreciation less than I expected for this year? Well, a few reasons. One of them is that inflationary pressure from tariffs was postponed. That Tariff Schedule was changed more times than anyone could have possibly forecast, and affordability stayed stubbornly low too. And here we go for 2026 how much home price appreciation or depreciation do I expect? Well, I haven't said this in any of the previous forecasts, because it's the easiest thing to say, and I often avoid saying the easiest thing, but this is just what I see coming, and that is, I expect more of the same. It's the first time I've said more of the same, which is drumroll here, 2% home price appreciation for next year. No wild figure or hyperbolic material here, in order to attract attention that is my best target for the truth, I'm here to do my best to be accurate and help you make the most informed decision, 2% for next year. So a 500k property today should cost you about 10,000 more dollars next year, and as we know, with a figure like 2% which is less appreciation than the long run historic 5% or so, with this 2% appreciation on new purchases, you leverage that five to one with your 80% loan, and you get a 10% return on your down payment. And you add in the other four ways real estate pays to your 10% leverage appreciation and at historic norms, you can end up with a 29% total ROI. That's realistic. I outlined the math of that in an earlier episode this year when I discussed how real estate pays five ways in a slow market, there you have it, 2% forecast home price appreciation for next year. If you want the charts that support the forecast and more, there's a way for you to get a hold of that, and also the best real estate maps, stories and investment opportunities that you won't see in any headlines. They are all in my free weekly newsletter. The newsletter also gives you access to my free real estate pays five ways. Video, course, that is it. GRE letter.com Get it all at one easy place. Gre letter.com I look forward to talking to you in the new year. I'm Keith Weinhold, don't quit your daydrem Speaker 3 36:06 nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of get rich Education LLC, exclusively. Keith Weinhold 36:34 The preceding program was brought to you by your home for wealth building, GetRichEducation.com
If you're winding down 2025 and didn't hit your DSCR goals, you're not alone. In this episode of Chasing Financial Freedom, Ryan talks about why so many investors and wholesalers shut down the last 4–6 weeks of the year—and how that decision quietly puts them weeks or even months behind when 2026 starts.He breaks down real DSCR timelines from current deals, why most new contracts in late December won't close until January anyway, and how to use that gap to your advantage by putting deals under contract now, ordering appraisals, and lining up lenders so you open the year with momentum instead of trying to restart a cold engine.You'll also hear why deal flow = revenue = profit, what happens to investors who go dark until March, and how Ryan is approaching 2026 differently—expanding from 1–4 unit DSCR loans into 5–8 units and apartments, and building a bigger team to serve more investors at a higher level.If you've ever wondered whether it's worth pushing through the holidays or if you're thinking about your own 2026 investing goals, this conversation will help you think more strategically about timing, financing, and growth.If this episode helped you, follow the show, leave a rating or review, and share it with another investor who's ready to stop coasting through December and start planning for 2026.
Send us a textReady to scale beyond flips and small rentals into commercial real estate without stepping on landmines? We sit down with investor and educator Becky Lambert to unpack the blueprint: how to pick the right markets, structure safer debt, and build durable cash flow with tenants who actually stay. Becky has 16 years in commercial under her belt and breaks down the core framework with clarity—what NOI really tells you, how DSCR protects your downside, and why a 1% shift in cap rate can swing a valuation by millions.We dig into the hidden systems that make or break deals: boilers, elevators, roofs, and power capacity. If you've ever inherited an old building and found out the hard way what “inspection missed” means, you'll appreciate the playbook for due diligence that buys leverage at the negotiating table. Becky shares how to curate tenant mixes that pull traffic—think surgeons, PT, pharmacies, and synergistic retail near hospitals—and why staggering lease expirations matters more than squeezing the last dollar on day one. We also explore counter-cyclical assets like storage, the trade-offs in specialized warehouses, and how ground leases and cell towers can add surprising income streams.For those itching to jump in, Becky explains why joining a syndication is a smart first step to learn IRR, equity multiple, and lender relationships from inside the deal. From selecting a market with real growth drivers to designing leases with escalations and creditworthy tenants, this episode gives you a clear path to move up the ladder without gambling your portfolio. If the numbers tell the truth, learn to listen—and let your strategy match what the market actually wants.Enjoyed the conversation? Follow the show, leave a quick review, and share this episode with a friend who's eyeing commercial deals. Your support helps more investors find the tools to grow wisely. Support the showThanks again for listening. Don't forget to subscribe, share, and leave a FIVE-STAR review.Head to Dwanderful right now to claim your free real estate investing kit. And follow:http://www.Dwanderful.comhttp://www.facebook.com/Dwanderfulhttp://www.Instagram.com/Dwanderful http://www.youtube.com/DwanderfulRealEstateInvestingChannelMake it a Dwanderful Day!
How can investors build long-term wealth in today's housing market? In this episode of The Real Wealth Show, Kathy Fettke sits down with real estate investor Anson Young to break down the BRRRR strategy (Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat) and how he's using out-of-state rentals, DSCR loans, and midterm rentals to scale cash-flowing portfolios. Anson shares how he transitioned from flipping homes to long-term holds, why markets like the Midwest offer compelling opportunities, and how investors can manage renovations and rentals from afar. If you're looking for a practical, no-hype approach to building sustainable real estate wealth, this episode is a must-listen.
Commercial real estate lending saw unprecedented growth in 2025, defying expectations. In this episode of Credit Union Conversations, host Mark Ritter sits down with Kristina Paulson to explore the dramatic 30% increase in loan volume despite persistently high interest rates. They discuss evolving debt service coverage ratio requirements, the impact of rate resets on existing portfolios, and creative loan restructuring strategies. Kristina shares insights on commercial loan underwriting challenges, softening office building markets, and property values holding steady across most sectors. The conversation offers a critical perspective on credit union lending portfolio management and what commercial real estate market trends to expect in 2026. Stay tuned at the end to hear their favorite Christmas traditions.WHAT YOU WILL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE:✅ How credit unions managed a surprising 30% surge in loan volume throughout 2025, despite high interest rates and why similar lending trends are expected to continue into 2026.✅ Why debt service coverage ratio minimums have increased from 1.20 to 1.25 across the industry, and how commercial loan underwriting standards have become more meticulous due to rising insurance, utilities, and operating expenses.✅ Which commercial real estate sectors face the most significant risk, particularly office buildings experiencing rate resets from low-interest loans originated in 2020-2021, and what creative loan restructuring strategies are emerging?✅ How property values are holding steady in most markets, while credit union portfolio managers must monitor existing loans more carefully as higher expenses impact DSCR requirements and risk ratings.Subscribe to Credit Union Conversations for the latest credit union trends and insights on loan volume and business lending! Connect with MBFS to boost your credit union's growth today.TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 2025 commercial real estate lending trends, MBFS growth, the unexpected surge in loan volume03:04 Interest rates reality check: Why predicted rate drops never materialized and how borrowers adapted to the higher rate environment for commercial loans06:01 Debt service coverage ratio challenges: Rising DSCR requirements, increased scrutiny on insurance, utilities, and operating expenses in commercial loan underwriting08:02 Property values holding steady, loan amounts decrease to maintain the debt service coverage ratio, and troubled commercial real estate loans as they roll over for refinancing in 2026-202710:39 Holiday traditions discussion: Kristina shares family Christmas celebrations, decorating, baking cookies, and extended family gatherings on Christmas Eve12:26 Childhood Christmas memories: for the Paulson and Ritter familiesKEY TAKEAWAYS:
This is Why We Can't Use Appraisals - #314 Why can't private and hard money lenders rely on appraisals? In this episode of the Private Lenders Podcast, hosts Jason and Chris of Hard Money Bankers break down the real problem behind appraisals—and why valuation, not appraisers, is putting lenders at risk. With recent DSCR loan fraud cases in markets like Baltimore and Philadelphia making headlines, the industry has been quick to blame appraisals. But the truth is deeper than that. This episode explains why appraisals alone fail for DSCR loans, fix-and-flip loans, bridge loans, and other private lending products, and why local market knowledge and borrower evaluation matter more than ever. You'll learn: Why appraisals don't work for investor-focused lending The difference between homeowner loans and private lending valuations How DSCR loans expose valuation weaknesses Why lenders must understand local markets and borrower experience The risks of high leverage and institutional underwriting models A potential solution: in-house valuation teams vs third-party appraisals This episode is essential listening for private lenders, hard money lenders, real estate investors, and capital raisers who want to protect their portfolios and lend responsibly in today's market. Please like, subscribe, and share! ✅ Are you a new or experienced private lender or hard money lender? Join Jason Balin and Chris Haddon from Hard Money Bankers as they draw from their extensive experience running a successful hard money lending company since 2007. Tune in weekly with episodes related to all aspects of private lending. From discovering lucrative loan opportunities to securing private capital, effectively managing your loan portfolio, handling defaults, and much more, we've got you covered. ✔️ Tune in now and watch the full video podcast at www.privatelenderspodcast.com ✔️If you enjoyed this podcast we would appreciate a positive review... https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/private-lenders-podcast/id1476153070 ✔️Make sure to check out the #1 Online Community For New and Experienced Private and Hard Money Lenders.. Create your account at www.hardmoneymastermind.com FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL Get updates or reach out to Get updates on our Social Media Profiles! ✅ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hardmoneymastermind/ ✅ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hardmoneymastermind
Why Smart Real Estate Investors Start with Short-Term Loans (and End with Long-Term Cash Flowing Properties) In this episode of the Real Estate Reserve Podcast, we break down one of the most effective wealth-building strategies in real estate investing: using short-term financing to acquire properties and exiting into long-term, cash-flowing debt. We explore the three primary exit strategies every real estate investor should understand—selling, paying off a property in cash, or refinancing into permanent debt—and why refinancing into long-term institutional financing is often the smartest path for building sustainable rental portfolios. You'll learn how investors use hard money loans, private money, and bridge financing to buy and renovate properties, then refinance into DSCR (Debt Service Coverage Ratio) loans that allow properties to cash flow without relying on personal income verification. We walk through how DSCR loans work, common credit and LTV requirements, seasoning timelines, and why rental income analysis is critical to success. This episode also covers: The BRRRR strategy (Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat) How DSCR ratios impact loan approval and cash flow Common pitfalls like appraisal shortfalls and rental income miscalculations Refinancing timelines and when to apply for permanent debt Backup plans if a refinance doesn't go as expected A real-world cost breakdown of short-term vs. long-term financing Why having a clear exit strategy upfront is essential Whether you're a new investor exploring rental properties or a seasoned investor looking to scale with smart leverage, this episode provides practical insights into structuring deals that transition from short-term capital to long-term wealth.
DSCR loans in 2026 may be the difference between growing your real estate portfolio and getting capped out by local banks. In this episode, Ryan breaks down how DSCR (debt service coverage ratio) loans let investors keep buying cash-flowing properties without blowing up their personal DTI, even as the market cools and lending tightens.You'll hear a clear refresher on what DSCR loans are, why they're designed for investment properties and short‑term rentals, and the DSCR ratios you should aim for so you're not stuck with a deal that doesn't cash flow when hard money comes due. Ryan also talks about overestimating rents, the importance of your all‑in number, and why a DSCR below 1 is a red flag you should walk away from.He shares real-time observations from the Phoenix market—longer days on market, repeated price reductions, and institutional landlords cutting rents on single‑family rentals—and what could happen if hedge funds start unloading properties in 2026. You'll also hear why tech and AI will be a key edge for investors who want to analyze deals and markets faster.If you're serious about using DSCR loans to scale your investing in 2026, this conversation will help you think more clearly about financing, risk, and opportunity.If you enjoyed the episode, follow the show, rate it, and share your biggest DSCR or bank‑denial story with us—your experience might help another investor.
In this episode, we break down every way you can finance your next investment property. From private money and hard money loans to bank financing, DSCR loans, partnerships, lines of credit, and creative financing strategies, we cover how real estate investors can get deals funded in today's market.Whether you're buying your first rental, scaling a fix-and-flip business, or looking to grow a long-term portfolio, this episode will help you understand which financing option fits your strategy and how to avoid common mistakes that cost investors money.If you've ever asked:How do I get money for my next real estate deal?What's the difference between private money and hard money?What financing works best for rentals vs flips?This episode is for you.
We're only a week away from winter, but the housing market is heating back up. Demand is rising as savvy buyers know that lower prices peak during the holiday season. But one crucial cohort is nowhere to be found…and it could have damaging consequences for the housing market as a whole. We're back with another headline episode, taking the biggest stories from the housing market and giving our takes so you can make the best investing decision possible. This winter is feeling warmer for housing as demand does what no one expects—increases during the seasonally slow period of the year. What's causing it—lower rates, FOMO, or something else entirely? Remember when people in their 20s used to buy houses? Well…not anymore. The new first-time homebuyer age reached a worrying new high, one that many of us couldn't even believe. DSCR loan defaults are starting to tick up, doubling from this time last year. Is this a bigger deal than many think, and could it bring discounted investment properties to the table? Finally, Dave shares a sneak peek at BiggerPockets' newest investor survey, where investors share what they think is coming in 2026…and there's a lot to be excited about. In This Episode We Cover The new median age of America's first-time homebuyers (borderline alarming) Why housing demand is going up during the (traditionally) slowest time of the year Delinquencies rising for DSCR loans? Why investors are defaulting twice as much as last year A year of optimism: surprising finds from BiggerPockets' newest investor sentiment survey The #1 best strategy investors are betting on for 2026 And So Much More! Links from the Show Join the Future of Real Estate Investing with Fundrise Join BiggerPockets for FREE Sign Up for the On the Market Newsletter Find Investor-Friendly Lenders BiggerPockets Real Estate 1210 - 2026 Home Price Predictions: The Correction Continues? Articles from Today's Episode: Dave's BiggerPockets Profile Henry's BiggerPockets Profile James' BiggerPockets Profile Kathy's BiggerPockets Profile Grab the Book "Real Estate by the Numbers" Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/on-the-market-381 Interested in learning more about today's sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email advertise@biggerpockets.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Real Estate Investing for Beginners with Marco Pfeiffer is a deep-dive masterclass into how an everyday W2 earner can build a profitable rental portfolio, scale across multiple states, and eventually achieve financial independence through smart, long-term real estate investing. Marco shares his complete journey, from immigrating to the U.S. with no network and working his way up to CFO, to losing his job in 2016 and realizing he needed cash-flowing assets to build security. In this episode, he breaks down exactly how he built a single-family rental portfolio, used the BRRRR method, transitioned to multifamily, and now helps investors secure DSCR loans and commercial financing for rental properties. If you're searching for practical, beginner-friendly steps to scale your first 1–10 rentals, manage properties remotely, or understand DSCR loans and build-to-rent strategies, this episode delivers the frameworks and real-world lessons you won't find in theory-based content. What You'll Learn in This Episode: • How Marco went from W2 employee to full-time investor • The cash-flow target that launched his financial freedom plan • Why single-family rentals can outperform multifamily for beginners • How to manage rental properties remotely (systems + contractor strategy) • DSCR loans explained: what they are, who qualifies, why they matter • The biggest mistakes new investors make and how to avoid them • Why analysis paralysis keeps beginners stuck for years • How to build a rental portfolio while working a full-time job • The long-term “10-year rule” that protects investors from market timing Learn More About Marco Here: Opportunistic Capital Group - https://www.opportunisticcapitalgroup.com/ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/marco-pfeiffer-4866495/ Connect with the Global Investors Show, Charles Carillo and Harborside Partners: ◾ Setup a FREE 30 Minute Strategy Call with Charles: http://ScheduleCharles.com ◾ Learn How To Invest In Real Estate: https://www.SyndicationSuperstars.com/ ◾ FREE Passive Investing Guide: http://www.HSPguide.com ◾ Join Our Weekly Email Newsletter: http://www.HSPsignup.com ◾ Passively Invest in Real Estate: http://www.InvestHSP.com ◾ Global Investors Web Page: http://GlobalInvestorsPodcast.com/
Your biggest wealth leak is not your spending, your income, or even your investments. It is the way your debt is structured, and nobody ever taught you how to fix it. In this episode, we sit down with Josh Mettle to break down why every entrepreneur, investor, and small business owner needs a liability advisor. Just like you have asset advisors to grow your wealth, you need someone who helps you optimize the debt side of your financial picture so you can scale faster, protect your cash flow, and create long term stability. Josh reveals why today's lending landscape is built for chaos, how interest rate cycles silently shape your net worth, why inflation destroys badly structured loans, and why most people are playing defense when they could be playing offense. We also walk through real examples of how business owners, W2 earners, and real estate investors can use HELOCs, DSCR loans, bridge loans, and non traditional financing to unlock opportunities that traditional lenders overlook. If you are serious about building wealth, this conversation will change the way you think about debt forever. And if you want to understand how much money your current debt structure is costing you, schedule a complimentary dreams and goals call with Josh's team so you can evaluate your borrowing strategy and see where the hidden opportunities are waiting for you.https://www.neoentrepreneurhomeloans.com/wealthjuice/ RESOURCES
On this episode, we walk step by step through how Derek Harris built his rental portfolio from the ground up. Derek has been buying rental properties for five years, and today he owns 10 doors.He takes us through each acquisition, explaining how he found the properties, their condition, and the work he did to fix them up. Derek also breaks down how he financed every deal. He talks about where he found the money for his down payments, how he structured his loans, and why he started using DSCR loans as he grew.We also get into the details of his portfolio, including total rent, mortgage payments, operating expenses, and the cash flow he keeps every month.Thanks To Our Sponsors:Ridge Lending Group - Making investment Mortgage process simple and stress-free.MidSouth HomeBuyers – Turnkey Rentals In Memphis & Little Rock. Instant Cash Flow On Day One. (Priced between $100,000 to low $200's)Rental Accounting Software Made Easy. Free 30 Day Trial.
Keith discusses seven ways to get a lower mortgage rate, emphasizing the historical impact of the 1940s GI Bill on homeownership and wealth creation. Caeli Ridge, founder of Ridge Lending Group, digs into smart tactics like adjustable rate mortgages, DSCR loans, and down payment options, plus insider tips on boosting your creditworthiness, timing your rate lock, and planning ahead so you can maximize your returns. They also explore trends like 50-year mortgages and portable mortgages, and the benefits of FHA and VA loans for first-time buyers. Resources: Want expert guidance on your next real estate investment or mortgage? Reach out to Ridge Lending Group for personalized support and a full range of loan options—whether you're a first-time buyer or seasoned investor. Visit ridgelendinggroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE to take your next step! 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Keith Weinhold, seven ways you can get a lower mortgage interest rate. We'll break them down loan types available to you that you never heard of, and learn how the 1940s GI Bill shaped the mortgage that you get today on get rich education Speaker 1 0:22 Since 2014 the powerful get rich education podcast has created more passive income for people than nearly any other show in the world. This show teaches you how to earn strong returns from passive real estate investing in the best markets without losing your time being a flipper or landlord. Show Host Keith Weinhold writes for both Forbes and Rich Dad advisors, and delivers a new show every week since 2014 there's been millions of listener downloads of 188 world nations. He has a list show guests include top selling personal finance author Robert Kiyosaki. Get rich education can be heard on every podcast platform, plus it has its own dedicated Apple and Android listener phone apps build wealth on the go with the get rich education podcast. Sign up now for the get rich education podcast, or visit get rich education.com Corey Coates 1:07 You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is get rich education. You Keith, Keith Weinhold 1:23 welcome to GRE from the Romanian Black Sea to the Egyptian Red Sea and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Weinhold, and this is the indefatigable get rich education before we discuss the seven ways that you can get a lower mortgage rate and more in the 1940s before my dad was born, the GI Bill gave veterans returning from World War Two access to cheap home loans, and that single policy decision might have done more to shape the modern American Housing landscape than Anything else in the last 100 years. Think about it, millions of young men, almost kids, really had just spent the better part of their early adulthood in Europe or the Pacific. They came home, married their sweethearts, started families, and suddenly America had this booming demand for housing, but demand alone doesn't build homes. You also need money. You need access to credit, and that's where the GI Bill stepped in. It didn't just thank returning service members for their sacrifice. It handed them something way more powerful, the ability to buy a home with little money down a low interest rate and underwriting standards that would frankly look like a fantasy today, that access to credit sparked one of the biggest housing booms in American history. You had these entire suburbs that sprang up overnight, Levittown in New York, Lakewood in California. These were master planned communities, and they really became a blueprint for Post War America. We had the booming 50s, and this had a lot to do with it. Here's the part that most people don't understand. This wasn't just about housing. This was about wealth creation, because for better or worse, home ownership has been the primary wealth building vehicle for the American middle class these past 100 years, when you give millions of people a subsidized path into property ownership, you're not just giving them a roof. You're giving them equity appreciation, leverage, tax benefits. You're giving them the engine, this flywheel that spins up generational wealth in a lot of ways. The GI Bill is the earliest institutional example of what I at least tell you here on the show, real estate pays five ways. Now they didn't call it that in 1947 but that's exactly what it was. Veterans earned appreciation as suburbs grew. They had amortization working for them, they collected tax advantages. Inflation slowly eroded their fixed rate mortgage balances too. And here's the thing, these weren't even speculative investments. They were homes that they lived in. Now, of course, the GI bill wasn't perfect. It expanded opportunity for millions of people, but it excluded a lot of people too. Lenders and local governments often blocked black veterans and other minorities from accessing the same benefits. That's a whole story unto itself, but the takeaway for today is, when you combine demographic momentum with favorable financing, you can remake a nation, and that's why housing policy still matters today, which we'll get. Two shortly, when you change access to credit or just tweak it, you change the trajectory of families and markets for generations, and the GI Bill proved that. So when we talk about interest rates, affordability, supply shortages, or any of the high frequency housing data that we cover here, remember that the stories aren't just about numbers. They really are about people. They're about giving ordinary Americans the chance to build wealth the same way that those World War Two veterans did through ownership, stability and the quiet compound leverage, not compound interest. Compound leverage that real estate delivers over time. Keith Weinhold 5:49 I'm bringing you today's show from, I suppose, a somewhat exotic location. I am inside Caesar's Palace, which is right near the very middle of the famed Las Vegas Strip, that's where I'm at. The hotel staff is always accommodative of the show setup. This might seem a little strange to you, because I'm not a gambler. The reason I'm here is that my brother lives 25 minutes away, and I've been with him during Thanksgiving. Next week, I'll bring you the show from Buffalo, New York, and then two weeks from now, I have something heart warming to tell you about that, and it is a real estate story. I'll be broadcasting the show from upstate Pennsylvania. I'll be there to visit my parents. My brother's also coming in from Nevada to be there. That's where the four of us, mom, dad, my brother and I will sit around the same dining room table in the same kitchen of the same home that my parents have lived in since the 1970s nothing has changed, and all four of us know our spots at the table. And actually, it's not even called the dining room table. It is the supper table, as my parents call it so, from flashy Caesar's Palace today to Buffalo and then to Appalachian simplicity in Pennsylvania, the stability and continuity of my parents living in the same home and four wine holds sitting around the table during the holidays, it is so rare. I imagine less than one or 2% of people can do this. I'm just profoundly grateful and proud of Kurt and Penny Weinhold for being the best, most stable parents I could have asked for. It's almost too much to ask, and if you don't have that in your life. Ah, you can do something about that. You can provide the same decency and stability for your children. Keith Weinhold 7:50 Let's talk about seven proven ways you can get a lower mortgage rate with this week's terrific guest. Though, we'll focus on investment properties. A lot of this applies to primary residences as well. Keith Weinhold 8:07 We are joined by the founder of the lender that's created more financial freedom for real estate investors than any other mortgage originator in the nation, the eponymous Ridge lending group. And though that sounds impressive, my gosh, she didn't even need that introduction for you the listener, because she's one of the most recurrent guests in show history. Welcome back to GRE Caeli Ridge, Caeli Ridge 8:30 I am delighted to be here as always, Keith, thank you for your support and acknowledgement. I love what you do, and I'm hoping that I can bring more value today to your listeners in what it is that we do, educating the masses, right? Keith Weinhold 8:42 You've been doing that here for about 10 years. And yes, we're talking about a woman with a reputation for writing emails in all caps, yet still maintains a great relationship with everybody. I mean, congrats, shaile. I couldn't possibly pull that off myself. Caeli Ridge 8:58 Thank you, Keith. And you know, I'm going to stay by my all caps, man, it's a speed thing. It all boils down to the number of seconds in the day that I can just move quickly through an email. Yeah, I love my all caps. Keith Weinhold 9:09 Apparently recipients are still replying, well, you can get a lower mortgage rate in at least seven ways. You can get an adjustable rate mortgage, do a midweek lock in, negotiate seller credits. Have a high credit score. Do a two one buy now, which is kind of old school, but some home builders are using it boost your DTI or buy now, not later. Those are some of the strategies for lowering your mortgage rate. What are your thoughts with regard to that? Caeli Ridge 9:39 I think all of those are viable. I would just say on the adjust for a mortgage. The pushback I would give there is, is that for residential property, specifically, single family, up to four units, we are not finding that spread between the arm and a 30 year fix. We've been the industry as a whole, secondary specifically been on the inverted yield. Now this gets a little tough. Nickel, and I won't go down that rabbit hole, but 08, 09, the housing and lending crash created an environment within secondary markets where an inverted yield has made a 30 year fixed mortgage more favorable in the rate department. Now that's not always going to be the case. I am a huge fan of the adjustable, but what would work right now is an adjustable with the all in one not to take too much time on that topic, but that would be an adjust rate mortgage that I think would save interest or reduce the rate of which interest is accruing, Keith Weinhold 10:30 the all in one loan, which we discussed extensively back at the beginning of this year here on the show. Long term, though, I have seen adjustable rate mortgages work for a lot of people, because really, the compelling proposition of the arm is that it guarantees that you get a lower rate in the near term, and yet there's only a chance that you're going to have a higher rate in the long term Caeli Ridge 10:53 and further. Let's I mean, let's dissect that a little bit. I am a huge proponent. I love an adjustable rate mortgage when the arm is pricing a half or a full percentage point plus over a fixed especially for non owner occupied and the reason for that is, and this is statistically speaking, feel free to look this up, guys, the average shelf life of a mortgage for an investment property is about five years. Great point, right? And we know that if that's the case, right, we're refinancing to harvest equity. We're refinancing maybe to reduce an interest rate from where the market was before, et cetera, et cetera. So that would be the first thing I would say. And then also remember, you guys the first 10 years of an amortized mortgage, 30 year fixed, amortized mortgage, how much of that payment is going to the principal? Because people will often push back by saying, well, either an interest only, or an adjustable and what happens if it changes or it goes up? Most of your payment is going to the interest anyway, and that reset to harvest equity. Borrowed funds are non taxable. We always say that, right? I think it's fully justified. So I love an arm, I just don't know, in comparison to a 30 year fixed today, like a five year ARM versus a 30 year fixed we are in a place that it makes sense, but normally, to your point, absolutely. Fan Keith Weinhold 12:06 that spread needs to widen for the arm to make more sense. What about doing a mid week rate lock in? Is that a thing? Caeli Ridge 12:13 Yeah. And you know, I don't have any empirical evidence here. Okay, I don't have any data points that actually prove this, except for 25 years in the business and locking loans every day of my life. There's something about a Monday and a Friday. And I have some conspiracy theories. I don't know that. I it's necessary to share them here, but midweek locks tend to be more favorable in both points and interest rate than you'll find on a Friday and a Monday. I think largely it has to do with, you know, the stock exchanges shutting down for the weekend, right? You got a Friday, you got two days in between. You got foreign markets, and all the things that can explode and happen during that amount of time. So I think they hedge a little bit. So on Friday, going into the weekend, I think that there's something about that and why interest rates are a little less favorable. And then Monday, of course, coming off the weekend, similarly, maybe there's some truth to that too. Keith Weinhold 13:02 Now, negotiating seller credits has really been a trend to help with affordability. Tell us about specifically what you're seeing there, what's common. Caeli Ridge 13:11 So we're talking to investors. I can tell you that the loan products you guys are going to have access to are going to cap you, okay, you're going to cap at, per guideline, 2% of the purchase price. Okay, remember that your points that you're paying when you get into locking an interest rate are going to be calculated on the loan size, all right. So the first thing to know is seller paid closing costs, maximum is going to be 2% per underwriting guidelines. That 2% is based on your purchase price. Anything that you're paying points for is going to be on the loan balance, the loan size, so there's going to be a little extra there for you that can contribute or can pay for some other closing costs, right, depending on the numbers. Now, if you're smart enough, or lucky enough, or whatever, the market is viable enough that you can negotiate more than 2% from the seller to pay towards closing costs, you're going to be limited on what you can do on the loan side. But let's say that you go and you've negotiated 4% seller will pay 4% towards your closing costs. Then in that case, you can reduce, you got the two points that you're allowed per guideline. And then you can reduce the purchase price by the difference you don't want to leave that money on the table. Keith Weinhold 14:15 That's how it's done. And then there's just simply having a higher credit score. What's the highest credit score that really helps you get the lowest mortgage rate for both primary residences and non owner occupied properties. Loan product Caeli Ridge 14:29 type dependent. But I would say overall, 760 and above is kind of that threshold. There are products that go 780 maybe even on the rare occasion, 800 and above. If I had to pick a number as the absolute pinnacle, I'm going to go 780 Keith Weinhold 14:41 All right, so having a credit score above those thresholds really doesn't help get you a lower interest rate. It's really just a little flex that you've got an 811, credit score, or whatever it is. Now the two, one buy down. That's something that we used to see long ago. A few home builders are bringing it back. And what that does it allow? Homebuyers to pay a lower interest rate for the first two years with the seller covering the difference, and that allows the seller to get their price. They don't have to lower the price of the home at all. But the two one buy down, and you see that written, two, one that has been employed more recently. Tell us about that. Caeli Ridge 15:18 Well, the builders are struggling in some cases, right? The affordability buzzword is all over the place. So they've had to get creative and find ways in which they can move their inventory. So I think they've done a good job at kind of shaving off some of their margins to satisfy or improve the terms for the consumer. So I like the two. One, if you can get it Keith Weinhold 15:37 now, one can boost their DTI as well their debt to income ratio and Taylor. When we've talked about that before, we've usually talked about reducing your debts in order to improve your DTI. However, a lot of people don't think about the fact that, oh, well, you can increase your income that lowers your DTI to help you qualify. So tell us what is the max DTI that you can have Caeli Ridge 16:00 maximum debt to income ratio, in most cases on a full dock loan is going to be 50% now, depending on the type of income that you earn or that you've demonstrated, how you calculate that can get a little bit tricky. But if you're just a straight w2 wage earner, we don't have, you know, commissions or bonuses or anything that we consider variable income, then you just take your gross income times 50% whatever that number is, all of your liabilities on the credit report, we do not count ordinary living expenses like food and gas and utilities and cell phone bills. It's the minimum payments on the credit report. As long as whatever that add up is fits within that 50% you're good to go. Keith Weinhold 16:37 Now, when it comes to improving our DTI to get a lower mortgage rate, I tend to think it's easier to knock out some debts to improve your DTI. But what about the other side of it? What about increasing your income to improve your DTI, lower your mortgage rate and qualify? Can you talk about some of the strategies for increasing your income with respect to DTI? Caeli Ridge 17:02 Absolutely. And the biggest one, I think that we probably want to focus on most is going to be on a schedule E, right? That's the one that you're going to have more control over. So when we talk about rental income and how we might be able to boost that first, it might be important to share that there are two ways in underwriting that we will calculate or quantify rental income. The first way is called the acquisition year formula. I'll give you that in just a second. It's very easy, but the way I think we focus on here, because acquisition year is going to be what it is, you're going to have very little ability to manipulate or change that once our rental properties fall on our tax return, specifically the Schedule E of a federal tax return, you as the taxpayer or the borrower are going to have some access to maximize or increase the income, or, let's actually get a little bit more granular there to maximize the gain or minimize the loss, by means of depreciation, maybe a cost seg, maybe we make sure that one time, extraordinary expenses are demonstrated on the tax return in the appropriate way so that underwriting can add those things back. So I know that this sounds technical, but the scheduling is the way that I would say is the easiest for an investor to maximize income, reduce debt to income ratio. And I will close by saying that ridge lending, I think one of our most valued value adds is the ability to help our clients look at their draft tax returns on an annual basis and present them with, Hey, listen, Mr. Jones, if you file this way, this draft tax return, if it files this way, this is what it means to your debt to income ratio. Here's my advice, right? We go into a lot of depth there with our clients. Keith Weinhold 18:39 That is a smart, long term planning piece that most mortgage companies are not going to give you. They're not going to be forward looking, looking out for your next three years of growing your income property portfolio. And shortly, we'll talk about a way for you to qualify loans where you don't have to show tax returns or W twos or pay stubs. But while we're talking about how to get a lower mortgage rate and some creative ways to do that, I brought up, buy now, not later. And what do I mean by that? What I mean is say, properties appreciate even 3% over time. Buying now, I mean that is going to net you more equity if you buy now rather than waiting, than it would in the savings from a rate drop, when you look at the appreciation run up, however, if rates go up, then you get both the lower price and the lower rate by buying now, not later. Caeli Ridge 19:32 And I would add to that, we have to remember that in addition to a very modest 3% in the home appreciation, we should be appreciating our rents at even a modest 2% a year, right? Depending on where you are, et cetera. I know that there's exceptions to the rule. And then finally, we got to add in that tax benefit, what you're going to get in your deductions, et cetera, et cetera. Keith Weinhold 19:51 Yeah, great point. Well, I brought up seven ways that you can get a lower mortgage rate. Can you share a few more with us? Some common ones? Because I know. That almost everyone that calls in there wants to inquire about mortgage rate as well. Caeli Ridge 20:03 Everybody wants, yep, everybody wants to talk about the rate, despite my vervet opposition to say, do the math. Do the math. Do the math. You know, the easiest one there would be buying down the rate. I'm going to try and formulate an example. Let's say you've got a really high wage earner and in the thick of their earning years, and they're trying to prepare for retirement down the road. It's a longer term burn. They desperately need tax deductions, and the deal that they're looking at, yeah, it's okay, but they want some extra expenses on the Schedule E, maybe they buy the rate down by three even 4% because points on an investment loan transaction are tax deductible, so that might be something, and they obviously benefit from the lower interest rate. Now I may push back on this, and I think again, I know I sound like a broken record here, but we really need to do the math. What are we getting versus what are we giving up to get a 6% or five and a half percent interest rate? What does that mean in real, tangible cost, and what's that? Break even? It's actually a fairly simple calculation. When you just divide the difference in what you're getting versus what you're paying for, and that'll give you the number of months that it takes to recapture the incentive versus the expense. But that would be the easiest one. Keith, I would say buying down points, using paying additional points to get that lower interest rate, Keith Weinhold 21:20 buying down your rate. It could feel good in the short term, but it's often not the best long term or even intermediate term move when you do the math, as you always like to say, well, you the listener here, you know that you can qualify for mortgage loans, for rental properties without needing a w2 without needing a pay stub and without even needing to show tax returns, because you need all those things for a conventional loan, but for a DSCR loan, debt service coverage ratio, you don't. So talk to us about the pros and cons of a DSCR loan versus a conventional Caeli Ridge 21:53 loan. Okay? And I've got a hook here too, because I think the listeners are gonna be very, very pleased to hear at the end of this statement, what's happening with DSCR in conjunction or comparison, rather to the conventional so DSCR everybody means debt service, coverage ratio. It's a very simple formula. We are going to take the gross rents and divide it by the principal and interest and taxes and insurance and association. If it applies, that's it. Keith Weinhold 22:18 $1,000 in gross rents, $800 in p i, t i, that yields a DSCR of 1.25 Correct? Caeli Ridge 22:25 Yes, you're absolutely right. The one that I use as I, just to keep it simple, is 1000 rents, 1000 piti. That's a 1.0 right? As long as the gross rents are equal or greater than the p i, t i, you're going to be in a position to get the more favorable rates. Now that's not to say that we can't go below a 1.0 ratio. You can actually have a property, we have products that will allow the DSCR to be a point seven five. That would mean, in this scenario, if you had rents, gross rents of 750, and the piti was 1000 you can actually get that loan done. That is allowed. The rate gets a little bit hairy. So more often than not, we're at the 1.0 and above. So this is just a really great way for investors who are either recently self employed, maybe they're adjusted gross, they just write everything off for reasons that you can imagine. Why? Right? They don't want to pay the taxes. It could be 100 different reasons. The DSCR option is such a great solution to provide a 30 year fixed mortgage same same similar leverage, if not sometimes even better than a Fannie Freddie, than a conventional loan, you can usually leverage a little bit more, in some cases, on a DSCR like a two to four, for example, two to four unit residential property, Fannie Freddie, they kind of cut those loan to values a little bit, and the DSCR loans don't care about that. So you can get the same leverage as a single family would in a DSCR. The only other primary difference is these DSCR loans are going to come with prepayment penalties. Typically, the standard is about three years, but we're usually not refinancing in the first 36 months. Anyway, if you know that that's applicable to you, then you'd have to buy the prepay down or out, which you can do otherwise. DSCR is amazing. Oh, and I'll give you the little hook here. So something I have observed this is maybe very recent 4550 ish days, the margin for interest rate difference between conventional and DSCR is really starting to narrow. DSCR products are really performing well, and that interest rate improvements that we've been seeing for those products is not far off from what the Fannie Freddie's are, and I've even seen examples where DSCR beats a 30 year fixed Fannie Freddie rate. Now those are for the higher loan amounts. I can explain if you want, but otherwise, that's good news. Keith Weinhold 24:36 Okay, this is really good news. It's a time in the cycle where dscrs could very well make sense for you without that huge documentation Shakedown that you need with W twos and pay stubs and everything else. There are a lot of nascent trends in the mortgage industry, and we're trying to separate some of them from being rumors, from being something that can truly happen. We're talking about 50 year mortgages and poor. Affordable mortgages. 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We're talking with Ridge lending Group President and Founder, Chaley Ridge about how you can get lower mortgage rates, and also about some trends in the industry, separating what's really a rumor in what could really happen squaring on 50 year mortgages and portable mortgages, those are both things only being discussed by the administration to help with affordability. FHFA Director Bill Pulte created some jarring news recently when he publicized this. What are your thoughts on the 50 year mortgage? Caeli Ridge 27:39 You know, on a primary residence basis, I'm not so sure I need to maybe put some more thought into that. But for an investment property, I love it. Man, anything to keep that payment down so that, because, remember, we talked about earlier in the show here the percentage of mortgages, let's just use our 30 year fixed for a second that for a rental property that start on day one and then stroke a check 360 times later to pay that to zero. Is a fraction of a percent right? We are refinancing these things. We are selling them and doing 1031 exchanges. So anything that can keep my cash flow higher and my payment lower, I am all for it. Now, the people that push back and say, Well, I want to pay off my mortgage in 15 years. I don't want to pay extra interest, you are welcome to do that. So there's a second piece to this that I think is equally as important as maximizing cash flow, and that is your qualification. All right, if this comes to pass, and right now, it could just be noise, okay, and I'm speaking specifically for investment property, but if this is available to us, the debt to income ratio component, because think about it like this. So I'm going to keep using my 15 year and my 30 year, because that's kind of what we understand. The payment difference between a 30 year 360 month and a 15 year 180 month can be substantial depending on the loan size. I mean, it can be hundreds and hundreds of dollars for the individual that is dead set and say, I don't want to pay the higher interest. I want to pay these things off. We may have arguments about that whole strategy to begin with, but overall, if they still want to do that and that's their decision, Fine, take the 30 year fixed payment. Take the 30 year fixed mortgage. Apply the difference. You can figure out that payment difference very easily. Apply it religiously. Every month. You will cross the finish line in about 15.4 years. Download an amortization calculator online. You can find them everywhere. Plug in your numbers, and you'll see what I'm talking about. If you were to do this, let's say the difference is 200 bucks a month, and you send it in every month with your 30 year fixed mortgage payment, you will cross the finish line to pay that thing off in about 15.4 years. So yes, you'll pay a few extra months of interest. But what have you done to your qualifications, right, your payment now on your debt to income ratio, when we're looking at this thing for a future optimization, never take the shorter term amortization, ever, ever, ever, you won't pay the higher interest that the 30 year or the 50 Year will probably come with because you've accelerated the payoff so long, if that's your choice. Now for everybody else that really wants. To maximize that cash flow. And they get that, they're going to be refinancing this every five, six, whatever it is, years take it, man, I am all for the longer term amortization on a rental. Keith Weinhold 30:10 I agree with you. I even like the 50 year on a primary residence, but yeah, Chaley, right here on the show, several weeks before Bill Pulte made the announcement, I actually talked about the 50 year mortgage and compared it to the 30 and the reasons that I like it because I knew there was a chance it could be coming, since this administration is trying to do so much to help out with affordability, people buy based on a payment, not a price that lowers the payment. A 50 year mortgage helps you benefit from inflation, and there are a lot of other advantages that have to do with that, although you probably are going to pay a higher interest rate on a 50 than you would a 30. And you know, Chaley, when the 30 year mortgage had its Advent just after World War Two, I'm going to guess 75 years ago, people were having this same conversation like, oh, 30 years, my gosh, you're never going to pay off the home. And really, that's not what it's about. Caeli Ridge 31:01 Not at all, not at all. And remember, you guys, I would encourage everybody listening to this to actually go get that amortization table and see how much interest is baked in and how it is applied and paid. It is the back end of any of these amortized mortgages where the principal actually starts to get applied in a meaningful way. The 50 year mortgage, or the longer term amortization is a huge advantage. I'm speaking for investors. Mostly. I love it. Keith Weinhold 31:26 Some people say, are you nuts? Look at how much more interest you're paying over the life of the loan on a 50 year mortgage versus a 30 year mortgage. We already touched on that you're not going to keep that loan for the life of it, and if you just take the difference from the lower payment that a 50 Year gives you, and invest that in 8% return, you are going to crush 2x to 3x oftentimes, what the paltry interest savings are over several decades, Caeli Ridge 31:26 and somebody else is making that payment right. We have tenants that are responsible Keith Weinhold 31:47 100% and then there's something that I don't know if portable mortgages would fly. And what this means is that when borrowers move, they could keep the rate, keep their term and keep their lender, presumably for the new home you might have seen it in the news. You the listener that Fannie May remove the minimum credit score requirements from desktop underwriting. And Chaley, I think you let me know elsewhere that those changes don't affect non owner occupied, but of course, it could affect the broader housing market in pricing. What are your thoughts about lowering the credit score requirement Caeli Ridge 32:28 so similar to the portable stuff, until it really reaches mainstream and it affects the non owner occupied I'm not deep diving into those things. The basis of it, though, is, is that, yeah, they're removing that minimum credit score requirement from a du underwrite that stands for desktop underwriter, as you said, that is Fannie Mae's sophisticated, automated underwriting system, and I think it's just going to give more eligibility to lower income households and people trying to become homeowners that have found the barrier for entry very restrictive because They have credit issues. Keith Weinhold 33:00 Well, let's talk about FHA and VA loans, something that we have rarely, if ever touched on. Our listeners know that I started out making my first ever property of any kind, an FHA loan with three and a half percent down on a fourplex, living in one unit, renting out the other three. Tell us about some trends there in FHA and VA loans Caeli Ridge 33:21 we actually just did house hack campaign. We did a webinar on it, co living, all those different ways in which, you know, the younger generation, especially, and this is true for anyone. I don't want to pigeonhole it, can get themselves into home ownership and propel them into the real estate investing as an asset class. I am such a big fan of this model, in this strategy, for anybody that's interested and willing to kind of coal mingle or habitat, like you did a four Plex at three and a half percent down, you've got three tenants that are making your mortgage payment. VA, likewise, any of the Gubby loans, which include VA, FHA, USDA, you can get high, high leverage and up to four units. So I'm a huge fan of that. And then the CO living is another thing that I think is not quite mainstream, but I think it's gaining steam Keith Weinhold 34:09 for those that don't know what we're talking about, you can use an FHA loan with a three and a half percent down payment, as long as you live in one of the units, your credit score can even be pretty low, and you can do that with a single family home, duplex, triplex or fourplex. You can get those same benefits with a VA loan and zero down Caeli Ridge 34:29 USDA also zero down if you're in the right zip code. How does one qualify for a USDA loan? You know, there's a website I would have you check out. We don't do a ton of those. We have the ability, of course, but there's income restrictions and all of this. They've got, actually, a pretty slick website where you can go online, type in the zip code, make sure it's in a rural area, what your income is. There's all these inputs, and it'll tell you if you'd be a candidate for it. But yeah, it's good. Rates zero down. I like the product. Keith Weinhold 34:56 Well, there have been a lot of newsy items when it comes. Comes to mortgages. Caeli and I think we should drop back before we're done here and talk about the basics. Just basically, what does it take to get a non owner occupied loan for residential income property? Caeli Ridge 35:12 You know, there's so many options for investors today that I would say that if you have access to and even with what we just said, house hack. I mean, listen, if you've got 3% down, three and a half percent down, you can probably assure yourself you can get into a property. And if you can't qualify from a income debt to income ratio perspective, you've got three or four other models, which include DSCR, bank statement loans, asset depletion loans, overall, I would say that this is an individual conversation. Chances are you could probably qualify today, and if you can't, one of the things that I love about Ridge lending is, is that we're going to help you plant the seeds and show you how to qualify. If it takes you three months or six months or a year, that's what we do. Keith Weinhold 35:56 Yeah, we've definitely noticed the difference here and that you do help that investor with long term planning? I do my own loans at ridge, and my assistant here at GRE she recently got the ball rolling with you in there at Ridge as well. Caeli Ridge 36:11 Brenda, yes, yes, that was fantastic. We are very looking forward to helping her. Keith Weinhold 36:16 Well, you know, chili, I've come here with a lot of questions that I had. What's the question No one's asking you, but you wish that they would. Caeli Ridge 36:25 I think it probably would be for me, planning. You know, we get a lot of questions about interest rates. That's kind of top of mind for everybody. More about planning, having people that are interested in real estate as an asset class and an investment have the conversations to say, this is where I'm at today. This is where I'd like to be in five years. Tell me how to get there, and we can have those high level conversations that really sort of reverse engineer it and say, Okay, this is where you stand today from an underwriting perspective. This is where you need to be, and here's how we're going to get you there. It's always about planting seeds and creating those roadmaps, as I like to say so I would say that that would be top of my list. Keith Weinhold 37:02 That's exactly what you do in there, and that's really what sets you apart. Well, remind our audience how they can get a hold of ridge. Caeli Ridge 37:11 Yes, there's a couple ways. Of course, our website, Ridge lending group.com Please email us info at Ridge lending group.com and then call us toll free. 855-747-4343, 855-74-RIDGE is an easy way to remember. Keith Weinhold 37:25 It's really been valuable this time. Chaley, thanks so much for coming back onto the show. Caeli Ridge 37:29 Appreciate you. Keith. Keith Weinhold 37:36 Oh yeah, good pointed info from Chaley over at Ridge, I think that the important things for you to remember from our conversation is that, gosh, isn't it so glaring like in your face that you have options. All these options when you engage with a lender, you're going to learn that there are probably loan programs that you've never even heard of, some that you might fit into and even if you aren't adding more property, if you're not in that phase, there are ways that you can take your existing loans and consolidate them or refinance them, or use them to produce a tax free windfall for yourself and the US is often the envy of other world nations with the flexibility that we have here in our mortgage market. I've never known anyone that does this better than Chaley and her team. 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