Podcasts about evangelical movement that shamed

On this episode, Emily McClanathan, a Chicago Public Library superuser, discusses her love of character-driven stories and excellent prose. She also talks about how reading has helped her become a better writer, as she writes both book reviews and theater reviews in Chicago. We get into some shared loves and Emily gets to share a hot take about a book she thinks is overrated.    Books mentioned in this episode:    What Betsy's reading:  The God of the Woods by Liz Moore  Horror Movie by Paul Tremblay  Headshot by Rita Bullwinkle    Books Highlighted by Emily::  The Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkien Radium Girls: The Dark Story of America's Shining Women by Kate Moore Our Wives Under the Sea by Julia Armfield  The Secret Diaries of Charles Ignatius Sancho by Paterson Joseph  Nerd: Adventures in Fandom from This Universe to the Multiverse by Maya Phillips  My Mess is a Bit of a Life: Adventures in Anxiety by Georgia Pritchett  Born to be Mild: Adventures for the Anxious by Rob Temple Once Upon a Tome: The Misadventures of a Rare Bookseller by Oliver Darkshire Everybody's Favorite: Tales From the World's Worst Perfectionist by Lillian Stone One in a Millenial: On Friendship, Feelings, Fangirls, and Fitting In by Kate Kennedy  This is Not a Book About Benedict Cumberbatch: The Joy of Loving Something - Anything - Like Your Life Depends on It by Tabitha Carvan  The Silmarillion by J.R.R. Tolkien Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation by Kristin Kobes Du Mez Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free by Linda Kay Klein    Other Books Mentioned in the Episode: All books available on my Bookshop.org episode page.   The Murder of Mr. Wickham by Claudia Gray  Better the Blood by Michael Bennett  Return to Blood by Michael Bennett  Any Human Heart by William Boyd  Hamnet by Maggie O'Farrell  The Marriage Portrait by Maggie O'Farrell  All the Light We Cannot See by Anthony Doerr  Cloud Cuckoo Land by Anthony Doerr  Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen  Sense and Sensibility by Jane Austen  The Eye of the World: Book One of the Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan  David Copperfield by Charles Dickens  Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde by Robert Louis Stevenson  The Hobbit by J.R.R. Tolkein  Zorrie by Laird Hunt  Wolf Hall by Emily Mantel  Schindler's List by Thomas Keneally  Washington Black by Esi Edugyan 

For decades, religion and the purity culture movement have told us a lot of things about female sexuality that are quite simply untrue. The problem is that the lies come packaged with many beautiful (albeit false) promises and are often served with good intentions, so it is difficult to recognize them as being lies until a lot of damage has already been done. These toxic teachings are wreaking havoc on Western culture, and because many of the ideologies are so familiar that they have become an ingrained part of our subconscious, the influence often goes far beyond what we realize. In this episode, Char, Josh, and Liv are joined by Linda Kay Klein, author of the book Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free. They talk about the common threads we all experience as a repercussion of these damaging beliefs, and share some of the ways they and others are healing from religious trauma to embody the fullness of their whole selves, including their sexuality. Join our Throuple Community, Throuple Talk's Connection Hub: https://www.facebook.com/groups/367901899061611 If you'd like to send us a

Do you know if you have ever been a part of a cultish or high-demand community? Do you know what qualities to look for in a high-demand community?High-demand communities may bring images of cults with extreme behaviors, demands, and rituals to your mind. But when you examine the communities you love, some fall on the spectrum of cultish or high-demand communities. Cultish and high-demand communities fall on a spectrum, and not everyone associated with a group or organization with those tendencies necessarily falls into the trance of these spaces–but many of us do–often without noticing. Today's guest got me thinking more about the high-demand or cultish communities we choose. His most recent book was inspired by his experience watching the January 6th insurrection on TV and wondering if he had not left his high-demand faith community, would he have been at the US Capitol with many who showed up that day, including some from his former community.Bradley Onishi is a social commentator, scholar, writer, teacher, coach, and co-host of the Straight White American Jesus (SWAJ) podcast. In everything he does, Bradley seeks to make the strange familiar and the familiar strange by providing insight into life's most fundamental questions. He often speaks about topics related to the radical conservatism and extremist religions that shape our world, some of it right in our own neighborhoods. He is the author of Preparing for War: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism – And What Comes Next.Listen to the full episode to hear: Defining white Christian nationalism and why it's key to understand the role of whiteness in its ideology How nostalgia is manufactured and co-opted to sell a mythology of what America was and could be again How Christian nationalism is more mainstream than we want to believe Why we need to keep talking about January 6 How authoritarianism makes itself appealing in times of anxiety and fear The rise of purity culture and how it is fundamentally tied to white Christian nationalism Learn more about Bradley Onishi: Website Straight White American Jesus Podcast Instagram: @straightwhitejc Preparing for War: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism--And What Comes Next Learn more about Rebecca: rebeccaching.com Work With Rebecca Sign up for the weekly Unburdened Leader Email Resources: Cultish: The Language of Fanaticism, Amanda Montell Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free, Linda Kay Klein Evangelical Christian Women: War Stories in the Gender Battles, Julie Ingersoll Sara Moslener Middlesex, Jeffrey Eugenides Hitler's American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law, James Q Whitman Inspector Maigret Omnibus: Volume 1: Pietr the Latvian; The Hanged Man of Saint-Pholien; The Carter of 'la Providence', Georges Simenon Ted Lasso Succession Back to the Future The Karate Kid

16 years ago, Linda Kay Klein embarked on a storytelling journey that would change her life (and the lives of many others). In her 2018 book Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free, Linda captures the experiences of hundreds of women, herself included, who grew up within and confronted the consequences of the Evangelical purity culture movement in the 90s and early 2000s. Through Pure and her nonprofit, Break Free Together, Linda has created numerous spaces to bring folks together to share their stories about repression, bravery, and ultimately freedom. We are thrilled to have her as a podcast guest! Freedom comes in expected and unexpected ways. For instance, in this episode, learn how shrimp tails and boxes drawn on a dorm room wall were formative experiences that helped Linda access the bravery to tell the story that she was so afraid to share. “The great thing about doing something that you're really, really afraid of is the feeling when you survive.” Linda, Jeremiah, and Julia also discuss: What makes purity culture particularly appealing and damaging to adolescents (10:00): At a time in which youth are particularly vulnerable, leaders within the purity culture movement combine language of belonging and intense emotionality to create a culture of conformity. Linda describes, “When I left Evangelicalism, I had to contend with how damaging it was. I went in with a pretty good sense of myself and the world.” Sadly, the confines of purity culture had long-lasting, devastating consequences. The grief and anger that accompanied the writing process (21:30): Initially, Linda was hopeful when she met other women who could relate to her story. “But then, when the numbers started to add up, and it became clear that this was a lot of people who are hurting, that became something to grieve over time.” Additionally, the systemic coverup of overt and covert sexual abuse in churches and the ensuing silencing of survivors showed that the people who were supposed to protect a generation of women had failed to keep them safe. The confusion in finding your freedom (30:00): As a sexual health coach, Linda's clients often want to dive right into “fixing” sexual problems. Linda wisely takes a step back and asks people to explore simpler decisions. After all, purity culture's rigid binary system increases the anxiety around the decision-making process. Identifying what you want sexually is really challenging when you're not even sure how to decide what you want for dinner. What it's like to have relationships with people who are “worried” about you (42:00): When a person leaves Evangelicalism, those within the community tend to worry about your wellbeing, and even your salvation. Linda describes her experiences of navigating this, and Jeremiah and Julia introduce a potential support group: Moms of Millenials Straying from the Church. How motherhood impacts sexuality (58:00): Linda describes how she talks about sexuality with her 19-year-old stepdaughter differently than she experienced in the church, and how parenting a newborn can introduce a new type of intimacy within the couple and family relationships. Wherever you are in your journey toward sexual freedom, we hope that you can find comfort and healing in the power of telling and sharing stories. Let's heal together!

A HUGE thank you to Alexa Barkley for her encouragement and wisdom.  She has provided some resources and references that you might find helpful:Here is the article that tells a few more/different details of Alexa's storyAlexa's correspondence with the Canadian Baptists of Ontario & Quebec (CBOQ)demonstrates very typical behavior for organizations that are lacking trauma-informed care principles and are oriented around a desire to protect the institution instead of orienting around making the situation right.  This correspondence also demonstrates the effort so many survivors go to in order to 1) be heard, 2) be grace-filled, and 3) use their voice to educate decision-makers.  It is nothing short of heroic.Jaymie Friesen of the Mennonite Central Committee is part of Alexa's circle of support and her letter to the CBOQ is a powerful demonstration of truth-telling and holding decision-makers accountable for their responsibilities.  It is educational and not abusive, but it pulls no punches.  The Mennonites also have an Abuse Prevention site that is incredibly insightful and helpful.  It demonstrates incredible transparency in naming abusers who have had credible claims brought against them.  Well done, MCC.Into Account is a powerhouse USA-based advocacy organization that Alexa referenced & that Hagar's Voice highly recommends for survivors seeking advocacy or decision-makers seeking guidance.#ChurchToo: How Purity Culture Upholds Abuse and How to Find Healing is a resource Alexa mentioned.  She also recommends You Are Your Own – A Reckoning with the Religious Trauma of Evangelical Christianity & Pure – Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free & Putting Trials on Trial – Sexual Assault and the Failure of the Legal Profession  Each of these books is available in multiple formats. Those interested in the connection between purity culture and abuse might consider the thus-themed season of the Reclaiming My Theology podcast by Brandi Miller.  This season ran from Nov 2022 through May 2023 and is an in-depth autopsy of the theologies behind the purity movement and the ramifications of it still playing out today on more than just gender dynamics.  This podcast can be found on all major platforms.If you'd like to connect with Alexa, you can find her on Instagram @alexa.m.barkley or Facebook as alexa.barkley.7

You know how every little girl dreams of the day her dad signs a pledge promising to keep her vagina penis-free until she marries. Wait, you don't? Well, sit back, slap on your purity ring, superglue your legs together and get ready for a Strange Country episode on purity culture. Theme music: Big White Lie by A Cast of Thousands Beaty, Katelyn. “Opinion | In wake of Atlanta shooting, Christian communities need to rethink purity culture.” The Washington Post, 18 March 2021, https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2021/03/18/purity-culture-atlanta-shooter-women-sexuality/. Accessed 7 May 2023. Filipovic, Jill. “'Purity' culture: bad for women, worse for survivors of sexual assault | Jill Filipovic.” The Guardian, 9 May 2013, https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/may/09/elizabeth-smart-purity-culture-shames-survivors-sexual-assault. Accessed 15 April 2023. Haberman, Clyde. “How an Abstinence Pledge in the '90s Shamed a Generation of Evangelicals (Published 2021).” The New York Times, 12 April 2021, https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/06/us/abstinence-pledge-evangelicals.html. Accessed 9 April 2023. Klein, Linda Kay. Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free. Atria Books, 2018. McEwan, Melissa. “George Bush's sex education failure | Melissa McEwan.” The Guardian, 20 July 2009, https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/jul/20/george-bush-teen-pregnancy-abstinence. Accessed 29 April 2023. “Teen Pregnancy Rates by State 2023.” World Population Review, https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/teen-pregnancy-rates-by-state. Accessed 29 April 2023. Roach, David. “True Love Waits pioneer defends sexual purity movement.” Baptist Standard, 8 January 2019, https://www.baptiststandard.com/news/baptists/true-love-waits-pioneer-defends-sexual-purity-movement-2/. Accessed 30 April 2023. Valenti, Jessica. The Purity Myth: How America's Obsession with Virginity Is Hurting Young Women. Basic Books, 2009.

Welcome to our first episode in our For the Love of Sex series! We're excited to break open this topic and find ways to cultivate what sexual health means for each of us and lay down toxic perspectives surrounding sex in our lives. Today we're talking about sexual shame and how that can show inside and outside the bedroom. Matthias Roberts is a psychotherapist, author and podcaster. He wrote a book on sexual shame called “Beyond Shame: Creating a Healthy Sex Life on Your Own Terms” and is committed to helping people find freedom feeling shame around sex. Jen and Matthias discuss: A working definition of what sexual shame is How Matthias's perspective on sex shifted after coming out in a Christian fundamentalist home Questions to ask ourselves to develop our own sexual ethic How sexual shame can affect every area of our life Ways to stay curious and let go of shame about sex Matthias's queer theological perspective on sex The ways shame can seep into our lives is surprising. Join Jen and Matthias as they unpack, with a compassionate lens, how to stay curious and work toward kicking the shame-filled parts of our sex life to the curb. * * * Thank you to our sponsors! Chime | Sign up for your Chime Credit Builder Visa Credit Card today Chime.com/ForTheLove Thistle Farms | Visit ThistleFarms.org and use promo code FortheLove to get 15% off your order Jen Hatmaker & Friends Cruise | Book your spot now at JenHatmaker.com/cruise Thought-Provoking Quotes “Sexuality is also a really core part of who we are. How we experience or do not experience sexuality is identity construing, and it should be. It is part of who we are.” - Matthias Roberts “We have our shame, we have our sexuality, and then we have our divine, or our beliefs around the divine, and what the divine commands of us or doesn't command of us around our sexuality. And when those things play together, we can get a pretty nasty mix really quickly.” - Matthias Roberts “So many of us try to push shame aside. That's our default, "Push it aside. We're not going to pay attention to this. This hurts." Or we get shut down by it, but we never quite take the time, or a lot of people don't take the time to really listen and figure out what the shame is actually telling us. And I think that's a really, really important place to start, because if we don't know what we're working with, the particularities of the shame, then how do we actually work with it?” - Matthias Roberts “I think there's something around queerness and the ways that queer sexual ethic or queer ways of thinking around sexuality can actually free everyone up.” - Matthias Roberts “What would it mean for our bodies to be good as they are right now? Can we get curious about that? If we feel I have a bad body or that sense of inferiority, what does it mean that my body as it is, right now, in this moment, might actually be good and can bring me pleasure?” - Matthias Roberts “Shame disconnects us. It disconnects us from our bodies, from our communities, from our partners. Sex connects us. It is ultimately a connecting force. So we can actually use our sexuality as a way to reconnect to our bodies, reconnect to our partners.” - Matthias Roberts   Guest's LinksMatthias Roberts Website Matthias's Facebook Matthias's Instagram Matthias's Twitter   Resources Mentioned in This Episode Beyond Shame: Creating a Healthy Sex Life on Your Own Terms For The Love Podcast Episode with Jay Stringer on Purity Culture For The Love Podcast Episode with Brene Brown on Vulnerability Sex, God, & the Conservative Church Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I  Normal Gossip Podcast Holy Runaways: Rediscovering Faith After Being Burned by Religion Connect with Jen!Jen's website Jen's Instagram Jen's Twitter Jen's Facebook Jen's YouTube  

We're celebrating the month of love by revisiting the trauma inducing, church driven, purity youth cultural revival that was 90's & early 2000's. On this episode >> purity balls >> courting >> just say no to orgasms TW: frank talk about sex and the churchMentioned:Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free by Linda Kay KleinI Kissed Dating Goodbye by Joshua HarrisI Gave Dating a Chance: A Biblical Perspective to Balance the ExtremesSins of the Mind (1997) - Lifetime MovieDr. Celeste HolbrookCome as You Are by Emily Nagoski __________Join the Geriatric Millennials Community! Instagram: @thegeriatricmillennialsFacebook: facebook.com/TheGeriatricMillennialsTheme music by The Finley Ghost__________Connect with Beth:Instagram: @eransofarInstagram: @paperwhale_paper whale: www.paperwhale.comConnect with Jayme:Instagram: @justenjoyjaymeFacebook: facebook.com/jayme.jones.75__________Beth and Jayme are long time friends and geriatric millennials. Relish in their unique perspectives as you workout, commute, fold laundry, or just need a break from the reality of this timeline! Listen in as they tell stories, discuss every topic under the sun, and just enjoy being in conversation with a friend. Designed to be the soundtrack for the mundane.

Self-exploration, peer relationships, and preparing for adulthood are the hallmarks of a healthy teenage experience. But what if that time is being taken up with religious classes, choreographed relationships, and focusing on an external group's needs. In this episode, we explore what it means to be a youth, ages 12-18, in the Mormon church and the psychological damage of conformity and judgment. ResourcesPure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke FreeThe Body Is Not an Apology, Second Edition: The Power of Radical Self-LoveBrainstorm: The Power and Purpose of the Teenage BrainI Thought It Was Just Me (but it isn't): Telling the Truth about Perfectionism, Inadequacy, and PowerWe Should All Be FeministsSupport the show

This week Cami Hurst and Braxton Dutson are reviewing Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free by Linda Kay Klein. This book is highly recommended especially to those who have experiences with fundamentalist religions. Cami and Braxton share some of the highlights of this text as well as some of their own personal experiences.

Linda Kay Klein (who is interviewed by her husband, Jimmy). Linda is something of a trailblazer. She's the best selling author of Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free. She has a lot of wisdom to offer and among other things in this video, I think she gives women permission to be themselves, to begin to define sexuality on their own terms, and to name the dis-health of the evangelical purity culture. Yes, it's challenging, but that's not to say that staying with the "tenants" of the purity culture isn't messy either! Linda has spoken around the world from the TEDx stage to The Apollo's Women of the World Festival. Her work has been featured by the New York Times, NPR, CBS, NBC, Elle Magazine, and 150 other outlets. Learn more at lindakayklein.com

In our new "Pillars of the Faith" series, the Heretics take on Original Sin and the "Fall of Man" in the Garden. Plus, Linda Kay Klein, author of the award-winning book, Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free, is our Heretic of the Week!

TW: eating disorders & fasting, purity culture, sexual shame, sexual abuse via coercion/forceful interactions in marriage, sexual assault/investigation, manipulation & abusive relationship, trauma/PTSDThis week we have the lovely August McLaughlin (she/her) (@augustmclaughlin) on to talk about the pathway & ongoing learning process of sexual liberation and shame through trauma, abuse, growth, sex, relationships, the pressure of forever, & constant learning. To be honest, a lot of this episode is me sharing my experiences with August, and her being a kind, patient, wise human. It's a little unconventional with the format, but definitely one of the episodes I hold closest to my heart — and deeply appreciate. I highly recommend checking out August's other work. You can find August on IG @augustmclaughlin & @girlbonermedia. Her book, “Girl Boner”,  is what started my journey with sexual liberation (https://augustmclaughlin.com/books/) and I cannot WAIT to read her other books including her new release, “With Pleasure: Managing Trauma Triggers for More Vibrant Sex and Relationships,” which comes out on September 14! She is also the host of the amazing podcast, Girl Boner, which can be found anywhere where podcasts can be listened to (https://augustmclaughlin.com/podcast/). You can find more of August's work at her website: https://augustmclaughlin.com . August also talks about “Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free” by Linda Kay Klein, which could be an amazing resource for people recovering from purity culture. August also interviewed her for her podcast! You can find that link here: https://augustmclaughlin.com/purity-culture-linda-kay-klein-girl-boner-radio/ . Mindful Minds is a podcast centered on mindfulness and intentionality. From sex to religion to mental health, we are focusing on how to be mindful & intentional about important topics! Join as we learn and grow together!Please rate us 5 stars and leave us a review! You can find more about Mindful Minds & Serafina Blog on serafinablog.com & on Instagram (@serafinablog). 

Recommended reading from Jen: "Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free" by Linda Kay KleinSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/falling-out. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

The one where we talk about PURITY CULTURE! In this episode we interview Krysta Carrick Byrnes, a nurse practitioner and our friend who also attended the Christian Academy in Japan. Krysta shares about the gradual evolution of her worldview and self-understanding  after leaving CAJ. In our conversation we focus on purity culture in particular, unpacking its harmfulness, and also brainstorm what things we'd like to emphasize if we were to talk about sex-ed at CAJ today. We were so happy to be able to have this conversation with Krysta, who brought a lot of great insights from her experiences as a medical professional. For more resources, here are a couple book recommendations:“Come as You Are: The Surprising New Science That Will Transform Your Sex Life” by Emily Nagoski (Note from Krysta: “This book's target audience is cisgendered women so it is not fully inclusive, but I found it very interesting and helpful.) "Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free"by Linda Kay KleinListen onApple PodcastsSpotifyStitcherGoogle Podcasts

Linda Kay Klein, author of Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free, has researched Purity Culture for over 15 years and is the founder of Break Free Together. Linda and Morgan talk about art as social change and why we need comprehensive sex education. Linda is the founder of "Break Free Together" where she hosts story exchanges and dinner parties to help people get closer to bring free. https://lindakayklein.com/contact/ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/morgan-mcgill/support

This week’s radical is Linda Kay Klein, author of the memoir Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free, and founder of the nonprofit Break Free Together, which helps people who have left the purity movement to find closure and a sense of community by sharing their stories with others.Over the course of our conversation, we discuss what purity is, how it impacted a generation of women (and men), the path that led Linda to a new understanding of the world, and how she’s worked to help others find the same healing she has.Some Questions I Ask:What was the spark for your book, Pure? (1:21)What does it mean to be expected to go from no sexual contact whatsoever, to being hypersexual? (13:32)Tell me about your nonprofit, Break Free Together (16:44)What brought your family into the Evangelical church? (27:41)What led to you leaving the church? (34:15)What was the path that led you to New York? (41:29)How did your parents handle your shift away from the purity movement? (44:14)In This Episode, You Will Learn:The rise and fall (and transformation) of the purity movement (4:12)What purity culture entails (6:17)How pornography (poorly) fills the void left by the absence of meaningful sex education (16:04)How the everyday practice of purity culture is traumatizing to those who experience it (20:44)The factors that made the purity movement so successful (32:54)The events that started to chip away at the narrative of purity for Linda (36:36)How Linda coped with her mother’s fear that she would go to Hell (45:38)How the language around purity is shifting and becoming more insidious (48:47)Resources:Linda’s WebsiteBuy PureBreak Free TogetherFollow Linda on Twitter and Instagram See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

We are back with part 2! If you haven't seen the first one, feel free to go listen then come back, or just jump in. Today we really get into HOW purity culture has affected us and how we see ourselves through the purity culture lens. We go more in depth about purity rings and the metaphor “chewed up gum”. We talk about clothing and also how these beliefs can affect marriages. At the end, we also discuss how this can really affect those who have had their choice taken away. And, stay for the end when we share what we hope you will take away from these episodes, from a young person's eyes and then also as a parent. Once again we talk about the book “Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free” by Linda Kay Klein Our socials; @theofficialwwp @rachelledmorris @2momslivingauthentically @erikajmorris @kaelibre @gillianwagnermorris

Chewed up gum? If you were ever around a Christian youth group growing up you may have heard their “chewed up gum” metaphor about purity (specifically women's purity). Today we discuss the effect purity culture messaging had throughout our lives and how they affect how we see ourselves and the world around us. In this episode we also make reference to a book about purity culture that greatly helped us realize these beliefs and come closer to healing. We highly suggest checking it out if you want to learn more about purity from an expert on the topic. The book is called; “Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free” by Linda Kay Klein Our socials; @theofficialwwp @rachelledmorris @2momslivingauthentically @erikajmorris @kaelibre @gillianwagnermorris

Welcome back to season 2 friends! First things first! I've got a new program that just launched called EMBODY circles. These small and intimate circles of women are aimed to give you the tools and empower you to reconnect to your body and create space for healthy relationships! I've got a couple spots left and you can find more info at bykaraelise.teachable.comOn this episode, I sit down with Linda Kay Klein, an author, speaker, coach + social activist to talk about Purity Culture! Linda wrote PURE: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free, which is a book that has helped so many unpack the shame that came with growing up in purity culture.On this episode, we talk about the underlying belief that permeates purity culture (the body is bad) and we talk about both the history and longstanding affects that came with the purity movement. Our conversation centers around the polarity caused by this belief system and ways that we can more holistically and healthfully view our sexuality and live as embodied people.You can find Linda's work at lindakayklein.com or at breakfreetogether.comYou can find her on social at @lindakaykleinMake sure to say hello to me @bykaraelise or find me at www.bykaraelise.com

In this episode we welcome Linda Kay Klein, founder and president of the nonprofit, Break Free Together, dedicated to helping people release shame and claim their whole selves. After 15 years of research on religious trauma around sex and gender, she documented her work in the award-winning book, Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement that Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free. Her work has been featured by CBS, NBC, NPR (her interview with Fresh Air’s Terry Gross was named one of the top ten of the year), and over 150 other outlets, and she has presented a TEDx. She joins us to talk about the after effects of guilt, shame and fear many have experienced from the purity culture movement found in some church circles that teaches strongly a message of abstinence above all before marriage.

In our opening episode of Season 2, we explore the roots of the modern evangelical purity culture. We speak with Linda Kay Klein, the author of Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free, about her experiences growing up in purity culture. We also speak with Rev. TC Anderson, a Presbyterian pastor who is attempting to reform the way youth are taught about sex and sexuality in the church. Finally, we interview Dr. Gregory Sapp, professor of religious studies at Stetson University about the historical background of why the church has traditionally been so fearful of anything having to do with sexuality. Featured Guests (in order of appearance): Linda Kay Klein Rev. TC Anderson Dr. Gregory Sapp

Diana Frazier - Story-teller, musician, worship leader, mother, wife and entrepreneur who's on sabbatical from her business Poulsbo Elderberry. Alex Jacobson -  Leader, speaker, writer, avid book reader and book reviewer, activist, advocate, lives on her hobby farm with her husband of 12 years and their five children. She's an excellent cook and provides tips and tricks on her instagram and blog @inspirationclothesline---We check in with these ladies who were on our podcast back in April (season one episode 25):Diana's business was booming back in April, so much such so that she was killing herself with up to 60 hours a week AND she had all her kids home from school. She knew something had to give.Most days now, managing her children with distance learning is deeply challenging: There's just not enough of her to go around. “It feels like you're sucking at everything all the time and no one is getting the very best you.”Alex and her husband feel like they are handling things differently than most; they have very limited contact with the outside world because they have autoimmune disorders in their family. One of things that she has learned in this season from an online parenting class  is around the idea that kids have “buckets” that need to be filled in order for them to even be able to behave properly. Basically she came to realize that she can't ask or expect her kids to function without some shifts in the way they are as parents. They are trying to get one-on-one time with each kid for ten minutes twice a day. It doesn't happen everyday but the intention is to fill their kids' buckets up so they have the energy and emotional bandwidth to behave when they are asked; and they are being asked to do more than before covid out of necessity.  It has increased the quality of their nuclear family. The biggest shifts have been in these internal systems. Everything is always changing, and even person to person.Alex says, “Life moves on in a pandemic. Life moves on in quarantine. Life has real issues, whether that is a presidential election, family drama or health issues… those things don't stop. They get exponentially harder.”But thank God for therapy over zoom!Danielle says we are all trying to harness all the fragments of life, that normally other places in our lives would have collected for us. There is a spiritual and collective weight to what we're all bearing. Trauma forces us to shift systems and perspectives, to cut out the [unnecessary] fat in our lives.Diana says this year has been “a walk in the wildness that I didn't know I needed.” She has come to realize that in so many ways in her life she has been silenced, through trauma, abuse, theology… And it has forced her to not be able to show up as herself, bringing all of who she is. That she has had to shut down who she is in order to make others more comfortable. As she has been healing in this season, that means "I've been really unpopular with my family for sure and a lot of people this year because they are not used to this version of me. I'm not used to this version of me.” It's a continually living in the “messy middle.”Diana said to her husband that he may have thought he was marrying a quiet, compliant church girl 15 years ago but instead has married someone very different. “We never could have known.”Maggie named that it has been costly for Diana; She's become aware of that places she has been silenced and the ways she has had to shave off her sides in order to fit into other people's spaces. She is reclaiming herself now. This covid season has in some ways given her the freedom to hold those boundaries and say, “No, this is who I actually am.” Maggie also noted how beautiful it is that in this season Diana is stepping into her prophetic truth-telling gifting, calling things out and becoming the best version of herself in the middle of a global pandemic.Alex says one of the things that happens when you are doing an internal work is that you realize you're a part of systems. Whether that be systemic racism, a religious system, a familial system…  the way that you were was a component of that greater system. “When I change, the system around me will be forced to change. And I can't manage how someone else feels about that change.”Alex mentioned a quote by Maryam Hasnaa “Be prepared for the emotional reactivity that's going to come when you decide to release the pattern of trying to make everyone else comfortable at your own expense.”Alex says, if you are at all evolving, in your faith, in yourself, in family dynamics…If you're evolving in anyway you are changing the systems around you.The questions Alex are asking are what will come out of this when we all are actually able to get back to interacting in the world? With people changing and systems changing, what will it look like to reenter with each other again? How am I going to react or respond to other people's change, or changes in the systems that I am a part of? “We're all literally going to come back into our communities different people.” Some more different than others.Danielle brings it to our physical bodies; how do our bodies interact with other bodies? We are going to have to deal with our scratches. How will we regulate — will it feel like coming home or coming into strangeness?Diana brings a quote from Emmanuel Acho from Uncomfortable conversations with a black man: Proximity breeds care and distance breeds fear. Acho meant it in the context of relationship to race but Diana believes it applies in our current situation in this pandemic: When you were physically in the same room as someone, face-to-face, and are looking into their eyes, you are able to feel a deeper level of compassion and empathy for them and to see their humanity. Now with masks there is even some distance there and dehumanization from not being able to see each other.It will be different when we are able to be with people again—we'll need to meet people as they are, not who we knew them to be.Maggie loves Diana's invitation to meet people anew, who they are now. Covid has been like a purification—we're sloughing off the stuff that doesn't fit or things that aren't who we want to be—and it will continue when we are able to be with people again. We may not continue in some friendships that have changed in the interim, and that's okay. In the absence of old relationships there will be the opportunity for new growth and new relationships.Alex notes that systems had to change in this season. Nothing is the same. We have inserted this new way of living into our lives that were already full and it has forced things other things come out because their isn't enough room for it all. Everyone decided what it was that needed to be removed. Her family has had privilege in this season as their family was already a single-income household where her husband worked remotely for most of the week. But she acknowledges there have still been changes, additions and subtractions to their lives.“We are all doing this shifting prioritization juggling game to make our lives function. That alone changes us.” We may not opt to re-enter all the places we were in before.Danielle adds that we are slogging through this season. We can not process trauma while in trauma.Coming into Thanksgiving, Advent and Christmas—Danielle holds to this idea of a broken Hallelujah.Diana says her typical pre-covid  holiday season is really busy as a musician. But this “happy happy joy joy” version of Advent isn't resonating this year. She's exploring, “The Lament of Advent;” The pain and grumbling of the Advent season. She reads a passage from Reformed Worship:“Worship that is oriented to the coming kingdom leads naturally to two central expressions: intense groaning and expectant hope. Notice how Paul describes these two expressions in Romans 8:18-27. When we think about the coming kingdom of God, we can't help but long for an end to warfare, abuse, hunger, violence, illness, and death. Liturgical lament is our expression of this longing. As such, lament is not whining or complaining like that of the fickle Israelites in the desert. Rather it is the expression of the groaning that we feel as we long intensely for the coming kingdom of shalom.”She said she is trying to keep hope in these dark days… holding both the grief and the hope.Alex adds on to this discussion of hope with a quote from the Evolving Faith Podcast, Episode 17 with Derrick Dawson, “Sometimes I feel like I don't have to hopeful. I just have to be diligent and faithful and get up the next day and do it again.”Advent can be different this year; Alex says they are not missed traditions, they are different ones. The intention is to acknowledge the growing this year as a way to increase the expectation.Diana says we are all growing, and there are growing pains. We need to use our new eyes! You have a new perspective. And this year, Advent can have new eyes and new perspective.Alex said they have blended the gratitude of Thanksgiving into their Christmas so that both traditions serve their family better—writing the things they are grateful for on slips of paper all month long and putting them in their stocking so that on Christmas they create a paper chain of gratitude.Alex asks, How do I parent them when I am so changed? We are experiencing growth and it's is a good thing, so how can we incorporate these changes into our families this year, this Christmas?Danielle says “It's not a lost faith, but a found one.” We're actually ecstatic that Jesus is born because He bridges beauty and  brokenness, pain and joy, the now and the not yet. It's something to celebrate!! Kids are not too young to learn, and it's a way to disrupt the system!Maggie felt close to what Alex said regarding traditions in this season and also the lament that Diana talked about. This is a season where we can feel the darkness more than ever, and the need for Jesus to bring Light into the world. It is an invitation for us to shift in our traditions in a more meaningful way. ----Diana is reading: Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free by Linda Kay KleinDiana is listening to: Africana Music and Richard Rohr's The Universal Christ Book on tapeDiana is inspired by: People who are doing the hard and excruciating inner work during this season.Alex is reading: Something Worth Doing by Kirk Patrick and The Bookish Life of Nina Hill by Abby WaxmanAlex is listening to: "You're not Finished Yet" by the Belonging Co.Alex is inspired by: women and like-minded moms who are speaking life into her. And therapy

This episode of Graying Rainbows features Angela Williams who shares her story of breaking free from toxic religious teachings. Her story also reminds us that coming out LGBT+ later in life is about much more than sex. Links and References: Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free by Linda Kay Klein Announcements: Mark your calendar for November 17, 2020: I will be hosting a webinar entitled Embracing Uncertainty: How to Thrive in Uncertain Times. Email me to learn more. Send email to grayingrainbows@gmail.com or post voice feedback at http://speakpipe.com/docartemis. You can now support Graying Rainbows via Patreon at http://patreon.com/grayingrainbows Connect on Social Media: Twitter: @GrayingR Facebook page: https://fb.me/grayingrainbows Public MeWe page: https://mewe.com/p/grayingrainbowscomingoutlgbtlaterinlife Email Dr. Campbell for an invitation to our new group on MeWe.

Show Notes:Intro - our new Facebook group ~ GGKCS Podcast / FlossTubeOn the Needles - Dami - ~more babyccino socks! on US 4 (3.5mm), Bernat Softee Baby in Prince Pebbles colourwayC.C. -~Surprise Socks for Rebecca on US1.5 (2.5mm), Pandia's Jewels Hand Dyed Yarn Super Sparkle in the Electric Pink colourwayProject bag from Nerd Bird Makery & Stitch Marker from Tilting Planet~I'll have two coffees and two cherry danishes to go please Cowl on US2 (2.75mm), Pandia’s Jewels Floofy in the Miss Woodhouse, Please Advise colourwayProject bag from Lizzie Bags & Stitch Marker from Tilting PlanetFinished Projects - Dami - ~NoneC.C. -~2020 Preemie Hat #31 on US6 (4mm), Knit Picks Wool of the Andes Worsted in the Creme Brulee, Peapod, and Tranquil colourwaysFlosstube - Begins at timestamp 11:21Dami - ~Rose bookmarkProject bag by Fat Cat CreatesNeedle Minder from SewHappyMailBristolSnipattie from cattycrosstitchesC.C. - ~Baa Baa Black Sheep by The Prairie SchoolerProject bag from Tilting Planet~My Christmas List by Silver Creek SamplersProject Bag from The 805 StitcherSnipattie from cattycrosstitches~Cats and Mandalas - February by Kitty and Me DesignsProject bag from Stitch ToolboxSnipattie from cattycrosstitchesNeedle Minder from Gecko Rouge~Edinburgh Castle by Terra Luna StitcheryNeedle Minder from TopKnotStitcherProject Bag from KnitRunDigGrime Guard from Crab Shack StitcherySnipattie from cattycrosstitchesUsing Pattern Keeper software on Kindle Fire 721,400 / 265,824 sts complete8.050% complete4 / 60 pages completeYummies (our current favourite things) - ~stickers from Craft Penguin Planner~Madame Chantilly Summer Delivery pattern from Stitching With the Housewives~Crafty Photo A Day Challenge - #GGKCraftyPAD - details for August hereWhat We're Watching, Reading, + Listening To - Please be aware that we do discuss recent tv show episodes that have aired in the last week or so. This is your spoiler warning!Episode 407 Bookshop List~So You Want to Talk About Race by Ijeoma Oluo - Dami is reading~The Glass Scientists (webcomic) by Sabrina Cotungo - Dami is readingJuly / August / September 2020 RAL - 15 minutes of reading daily challenge* 88-92 of 92 days - 1 or more giveaways for eBook, everyone gets $1.20 off any single pattern coupon code & 88+ days RAL virtual badge * 61-87 of 92 days - 1 or more giveaways for single pattern, everyone gets 61+ days RAL virtual badge* #GGKRAL202020 RAL Yearlong Challenge~July / August / September* 92 days - 10 entries* 88-91 days - 8 entries* 61-87 days - 5 entries~October / November / December* 92 days - 10 entries* 88-91 days - 8 entries* 61-87 days - 5 entries~Read All 366 days - 10 bonus entries~Complete the Modern Mrs. Darcy 2020 Reading Challenge - 12 bonus entries [all or none] (we'll open a thread for you to post this in December 2020)~3 grand prize winners drawn from all the entries~Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free by Linda Kay Klein - C.C. finished reading~Worth It: Overcome Your Fears and Embrace the Life You Were Made For by Brit Barron - C.C. is reading~Harry Potter & the Order of the Phoenix (Harry Potter #5) - C.C. is rereading with Harry Potter & the Sacred Text podcast & Swish and Flick: An All Potter Podcast~The Light Brigade by Kameron Hurley - C.C. finished reading~Real Men Knit by Kwana Jackson - C.C. finished reading~The Southern Book Club's Guide to Slaying Vampires by Grady Hendrix - C.C. finished reading~You'll Miss Me When I'm Gone by Rachel Lynn Solomon - C.C. finished reading~The Care and Feeding of Waspish Widows (Feminine Pursuits #2) by Olivia Waite - C.C. finished reading~Zoo - watching Season 2 ~Warehouse 13 - finished rewatching Season 3 and rewatching Season 4~Cabin Fever~Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. - watching Season 7~The Umbrella Academy - watching Season 2~Wynonna Earp - watching Season 4~My Favourite Murder podcast~Unlocking Us With Brené Brown~Evolving Faith podcast~Cabin Pressure~Random Spotify PlaylistsJune / July / August Summertime & the Living is Easy AL -*Runs from 1-June through 31-August*Details - any project you knit/crochet/weave/spin/stitch/sew that you can convince us relates to summertime*No WIPS - Your project must be begun no earlier than 1-June and finished no later than 31-August*Each project that you knit/crochet/weave/spin must be at least 20yds/18.3m that you finish and post in the Facebook Group FO Thread counts as 1 entry into the giveaways. If your project is not at least 20yds/18.3m, you need to group it in a single post with other projects that together total at least 20yds/18.3m. For stitching/sewing projects, we’ll leave it to your best judgment. If you wanted our official ruling, PM email us at ggkcspodcast@gmail.com*Feel free to poly-dip in other ALs as long as it fits in with other rules*Prizes: If you’d like to donate one, email us at ggkcspodcast@gmail.comHilde’s Strawberry Patch pattern by Bendy Stitchy Designs from TyraLa Brebis Light Alpaca in the Dogwood Berry colourway - 2 skeins - 2 winners will each win 1 skeinKlart “I’m Flying” Cross Stitch Kit from LoriBerroco Local Yarn Store Day 2019 Pattern BookletUru.Yarn by KnitCrate Silk DK in the Enlightened colourway - 2 skeins - 2 winners will each win 1 skeinModa Dea Sassy Stripes DK in the Stormy colourway - 2 skeins from Tricia - 1 winner will win both skeins*Must be a member of the our Facebook group ~ GGKCS Podcast / FlossTube to participate*Social Media Hashtag: #GGKCSSummertime20*Thread will be locked the morning of 1-September and winner(s) drawn on the next podcast following that*For any and all giveaways, prizes, competitions, ALs, etc. that we host, the winner(s) have 30 days from the date of announcement (the date the podcast episode in which the winner was announced goes live) to contact us to claim their prize or it will be forfeited. If this occurs, the prize will be used for another giveaway at our discretion. Thanks for understanding!*There is a Chatter Thread in our Facebook group so we can encourage each other along the way.Ask the Geeks - Will you, C.C., be making any more English paper piecing crafts? You seemed to really enjoy your last project! Will Dami ever give it a go? How about hand embroidery?Much love, Brittany “StitchbyMoonlight”Misc. - ~Support the Podcast, Become A PatronEach week, we create a list on Bookshop of all the books we talk about in that week's episode. Bookshop is an online bookstore with a mission to financially support local, independent bookstores. If you purchase a book from our list, we earn a commission & local, independent bookstores also earn money from your purchase.~Want another way to help support our podcast? Throughout our website, links to books, tv shows, movies, etc. are Amazon Affiliate Links. We receive a portion of what you spend when you click through our website to shop on Amazon. What we receive helps us with the costs associated with producing this podcast as well as with prizes & shipping for giveaways. Thanks in advance for your support!If you are in the UK, please click this link, Amazon.co.uk, or the banner below to shop:If you are in Canada, please click this link, Amazon.ca or the banner below to shop:~For any and all giveaways, prizes, competitions, ALs, etc. that we host, the winner(s) have 30 days from the date of announcement (the date the podcast episode in which the winner was announced goes live) to contact us to claim their prize or it will be forfeited. If this occurs, the prize will be used for another giveaway at our discretion. Thanks for understanding!Find Us Online -C.C. -~ on Instagram as cc_almonDami - ~ on Instagram as damisdoodlesPink Purl - ~on Instagram as pinkpurlalmonJavaPurl Designs~ JavaPurl Designs websiteGGKCS -~ our Facebook group ~ GGKCS Podcast / FlossTube~ our Facebook page~ email us: ggkcspodcast@gmail.com~ on Apple Podcasts~ on YouTube~ Support the Podcast, Become a PatronUntil next time,

Show Notes:Intro - our new Facebook group ~ GGKCS Podcast / FlossTubeOn the Needles - Dami - ~NoneC.C. -~Surprise Socks for Rebecca on US1.5 (2.5mm), Pandia's Jewels Hand Dyed Yarn Super Sparkle in the Electric Pink colourwayProject bag from Nerd Bird Makery & Stitch Marker from Tilting Planet~I'll have two coffees and two cherry danishes to go please Cowl on US2 (2.75mm), Pandia’s Jewels Floofy in the Miss Woodhouse, Please Advise colourwayProject bag from Lizzie Bags & Stitch Marker from Tilting PlanetFinished Projects - Dami - ~NoneC.C. -~2020 Preemie Hat #30 on US6 (4mm), Knit Picks Wool of the Andes Worsted in the Tranquil & Caution colourwaysFlosstube - Begins at timestamp 13:47Dami - ~Rose bookmarkProject bag by Fat Cat CreatesNeedle Minder from SewHappyMailBristolSnipattie from cattycrosstitchesC.C. - ~FO! - Pusheen #3Notions Pouch by Purlgurl Buttons~Cats and Mandalas - February by Kitty and Me DesignsProject bag from Stitch ToolboxSnipattie from cattycrosstitchesNeedle Minder from Gecko Rouge~Edinburgh Castle by Terra Luna StitcheryNeedle Minder from TopKnotStitcherProject Bag from KnitRunDigGrime Guard from Crab Shack StitcherySnipattie from cattycrosstitchesUsing Pattern Keeper software on Kindle Fire 719,000 / 265,824 sts complete7.148% complete3 / 60 pages completeYummies (our current favourite things) - ~gifts from KathieR~Crafty Photo A Day Challenge - #GGKCraftyPAD - details for August hereWhat We're Watching, Reading, + Listening To - Please be aware that we do discuss recent tv show episodes that have aired in the last week or so. This is your spoiler warning!Episode 406 Bookshop List~So You Want to Talk About Race by Ijeoma Oluo - Dami is reading~The Glass Scientists (webcomic) by Sabrina Cotungo - Dami is readingJuly / August / September 2020 RAL - 15 minutes of reading daily challenge* 88-92 of 92 days - 1 or more giveaways for eBook, everyone gets $1.20 off any single pattern coupon code & 88+ days RAL virtual badge * 61-87 of 92 days - 1 or more giveaways for single pattern, everyone gets 61+ days RAL virtual badge* #GGKRAL202020 RAL Yearlong Challenge~July / August / September* 92 days - 10 entries* 88-91 days - 8 entries* 61-87 days - 5 entries~October / November / December* 92 days - 10 entries* 88-91 days - 8 entries* 61-87 days - 5 entries~Read All 366 days - 10 bonus entries~Complete the Modern Mrs. Darcy 2020 Reading Challenge - 12 bonus entries [all or none] (we'll open a thread for you to post this in December 2020)~3 grand prize winners drawn from all the entries~Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free by Linda Kay Klein - C.C. is reading~Harry Potter & the Order of the Phoenix (Harry Potter #5) - C.C. is rereading with Harry Potter & the Sacred Text podcast & Swish and Flick: An All Potter Podcast~Lucy Kincaid Series by Allison Brennan - C.C. finished reading Book 7~The Guild Codex: Spellbound Series by Annette Marie - C.C. finished reading Book 3 & Book 0.25~Detective Harriet Blue Series by James Patterson & Candice Fox - C.C. finished reading Book 4~Detective Murdoch Series by Maureen Jennings - C.C. finished reading Book 7~The Light Brigade by Kameron Hurley - C.C. is reading~Movies - Disclosure~Zoo - watching Season 2 ~Warehouse 13 - finished rewatching Season 2 and rewatching Season 3~Psych - rewatching Season 4~Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. - watching Season 7~Blindspot - Series finale~Wynonna Earp - watching Season 4~My Favourite Murder podcast~Unlocking Us With Brené Brown~Evolving Faith podcast~Cabin Pressure~Random Spotify PlaylistsJune / July / August Summertime & the Living is Easy AL -*Runs from 1-June through 31-August*Details - any project you knit/crochet/weave/spin/stitch/sew that you can convince us relates to summertime*No WIPS - Your project must be begun no earlier than 1-June and finished no later than 31-August*Each project that you knit/crochet/weave/spin must be at least 20yds/18.3m that you finish and post in the Facebook Group FO Thread counts as 1 entry into the giveaways. If your project is not at least 20yds/18.3m, you need to group it in a single post with other projects that together total at least 20yds/18.3m. For stitching/sewing projects, we’ll leave it to your best judgment. If you wanted our official ruling, PM email us at ggkcspodcast@gmail.com*Feel free to poly-dip in other ALs as long as it fits in with other rules*Prizes: If you’d like to donate one, email us at ggkcspodcast@gmail.comHilde’s Strawberry Patch pattern by Bendy Stitchy Designs from TyraLa Brebis Light Alpaca in the Dogwood Berry colourway - 2 skeins - 2 winners will each win 1 skeinKlart “I’m Flying” Cross Stitch Kit from LoriBerroco Local Yarn Store Day 2019 Pattern BookletUru.Yarn by KnitCrate Silk DK in the Enlightened colourway - 2 skeins - 2 winners will each win 1 skeinModa Dea Sassy Stripes DK in the Stormy colourway - 2 skeins from Tricia - 1 winner will win both skeins*Must be a member of the our Facebook group ~ GGKCS Podcast / FlossTube to participate*Social Media Hashtag: #GGKCSSummertime20*Thread will be locked the morning of 1-September and winner(s) drawn on the next podcast following that*For any and all giveaways, prizes, competitions, ALs, etc. that we host, the winner(s) have 30 days from the date of announcement (the date the podcast episode in which the winner was announced goes live) to contact us to claim their prize or it will be forfeited. If this occurs, the prize will be used for another giveaway at our discretion. Thanks for understanding!*There is a Chatter Thread in our Facebook group so we can encourage each other along the way.Ask the Geeks - Silver from Connecticut asks:CC and Dami, If you had to pick a favorite fandom, could you? If not, that’s fine. If you had the opportunity, which fandom would you like to live in for a week? Which character would you become inside that fandom?Misc. - ~Support the Podcast, Become A PatronEach week, we create a list on Bookshop of all the books we talk about in that week's episode. Bookshop is an online bookstore with a mission to financially support local, independent bookstores. If you purchase a book from our list, we earn a commission & local, independent bookstores also earn money from your purchase.~Want another way to help support our podcast? Throughout our website, links to books, tv shows, movies, etc. are Amazon Affiliate Links. We receive a portion of what you spend when you click through our website to shop on Amazon. What we receive helps us with the costs associated with producing this podcast as well as with prizes & shipping for giveaways. Thanks in advance for your support!If you are in the UK, please click this link, Amazon.co.uk, or the banner below to shop:If you are in Canada, please click this link, Amazon.ca or the banner below to shop:~For any and all giveaways, prizes, competitions, ALs, etc. that we host, the winner(s) have 30 days from the date of announcement (the date the podcast episode in which the winner was announced goes live) to contact us to claim their prize or it will be forfeited. If this occurs, the prize will be used for another giveaway at our discretion. Thanks for understanding!Find Us Online -C.C. -~ on Instagram as cc_almonDami - ~ on Instagram as damisdoodlesPink Purl - ~on Instagram as pinkpurlalmonJavaPurl Designs~ JavaPurl Designs websiteGGKCS -~ our Facebook group ~ GGKCS Podcast / FlossTube~ our Facebook page~ email us: ggkcspodcast@gmail.com~ on Apple Podcasts~ on YouTube~ Support the Podcast, Become a PatronUntil next time,

Show Notes:Intro - On the Needles - Dami - ~NoneC.C. -~Surprise Socks for Rebecca on US1.5 (2.5mm), Pandia's Jewels Hand Dyed Yarn Super Sparkle in the Electric Pink colourwayProject bag from Nerd Bird Makery & Stitch Marker from Tilting Planet~I'll have two coffees and two cherry danishes to go please Cowl on US2 (2.75mm), Pandia’s Jewels Floofy in the Miss Woodhouse, Please Advise colourwayProject bag from Lizzie Bags & Stitch Marker from Tilting PlanetFinished Projects - Dami - ~NoneC.C. -~2020 Preemie Hat #29 on US6 (4mm), Abstract Fiber Super Sock+ in the Summit colourway, Caron Simply Soft in the Grey Heather colourway, & Knit Picks Wool of the Andes Worsted in the Everglade Heather colourway~Happy 7th Birthday Waylon! Slippers on US7 (4.5mm), Knit Picks Wool of the Andes Worsted in the Caution, Tranquil, & Orange colourwaysStash Dash ~ 1,838.8m / 1,500mFlosstube - Begins at timestamp 11:14Dami - ~Rose bookmarkProject bag by Fat Cat CreatesNeedle Minder from SewHappyMailBristolSnipattie from cattycrosstitchesC.C. - ~My Christmas List by Silver Creek SamplersProject Bag from The 805 StitcherSnipattie from cattycrosstitches~Pusheen #3Notions Pouch by Purlgurl Buttons~Cats and Mandalas - February by Kitty and Me DesignsProject bag from Stitch ToolboxSnipattie from cattycrosstitchesNeedle Minder from Gecko RougeStash Dash ~ 7,488 / 13,000 sts~Edinburgh Castle by Terra Luna StitcheryNeedle Minder from TopKnotStitcherProject Bag from KnitRunDigGrime Guard from Crab Shack StitcherySnipattie from cattycrosstitchesUsing Pattern Keeper software on Kindle Fire 719,000 / 265,824 sts complete7.148% complete3 / 60 pages completeStash Dash ~ 11,600 / 18,000 sts~Semi-Sane StitchersYummies (our current favourite things) - ~Kitsap Pride in a Box~GGK Crafty Photo A Day Challenge - #GGKCraftyPAD - details for July here What We're Watching, Reading, + Listening To - Please be aware that we do discuss recent tv show episodes that have aired in the last week or so. This is your spoiler warning!Episode 405 Bookshop List~So You Want to Talk About Race by Ijeoma Oluo - Dami is reading~The Glass Scientists (webcomic) by Sabrina Cotungo - Dami is readingJuly / August / September 2020 RAL - 15 minutes of reading daily challenge* 88-92 of 92 days - 1 or more giveaways for eBook, everyone gets $1.20 off any single pattern coupon code & 88+ days RAL virtual badge * 61-87 of 92 days - 1 or more giveaways for single pattern, everyone gets 61+ days RAL virtual badge* #GGKRAL202020 RAL Yearlong Challenge~July / August / September* 92 days - 10 entries* 88-91 days - 8 entries* 61-87 days - 5 entries~October / November / December* 92 days - 10 entries* 88-91 days - 8 entries* 61-87 days - 5 entries~Read All 366 days - 10 bonus entries~Complete the Modern Mrs. Darcy 2020 Reading Challenge - 12 bonus entries [all or none] (we'll open a thread for you to post this in December 2020)~3 grand prize winners drawn from all the entries~More Myself: A Journey by Alicia Keys - C.C. finished reading~Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free by Linda Kay Klein - C.C. is reading~Harry Potter & the Order of the Phoenix (Harry Potter #5) - C.C. is rereading with Harry Potter & the Sacred Text podcast & Swish and Flick: An All Potter Podcast~We Ride Upon Sticks by Quan Barry - C.C. finished reading~Agnes at the End of the World by Kelly McWilliams - C.C. finished reading~Detective D.D. Warren Series by Lisa Gardner - C.C. finished reading Book 11~What Unbreakable Looks Like by Kate McLaughlin - C.C. finished reading~The Woman in the Window by A.J. Finn - C.C. finished reading~Lucy Kincaid Series by Allison Brennan - C.C. is reading Book 7~The Guild Codex: Spellbound Series by Annette Marie - C.C. is reading Book 3~Movies - Psych 2: Lassie Come Home~Warehouse 13 - rewatching Season 2~Psych - finished rewatching Season 2 & rewatching Season 3~Cabin Fever~The 100 - watching Season 7~Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. - watching Season 7~Absentia - finished watching Season 3~My Favourite Murder podcast~Unlocking Us With Brené Brown~Evolving Faith podcast~Cabin Pressure~Random Spotify PlaylistsJune / July / August Summertime & the Living is Easy AL -*Runs from 1-June through 31-August*Details - any project you knit/crochet/weave/spin/stitch/sew that you can convince us relates to summertime*No WIPS - Your project must be begun no earlier than 1-June and finished no later than 31-August*Each project that you knit/crochet/weave/spin must be at least 20yds/18.3m that you finish and post in the Facebook Group FO Thread counts as 1 entry into the giveaways. If your project is not at least 20yds/18.3m, you need to group it in a single post with other projects that together total at least 20yds/18.3m. For stitching/sewing projects, we’ll leave it to your best judgment. 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WHAT WE CHAT ABOUT: Kirsten’s story changing the language we use about our bodies how working through non-sexual trauma affected Kirsten’s sex life taking control of your energy for yourself changing the negative connotation of pleasure deciding what you want your sex life to look like the mind, body and spiritual connection of sex LINKS MENTIONED: It’s So Amazing Another Name for Everything with Richard Rohr Morgan Day Cecil Instagram Mating in Captivity Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel The Forgotten Feminine Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free CONNECT WITH KIRSTEN: instagram CONNECT WITH EMILY: website | instagram | facebook | patreon EPISODE SPONSORS: BeeKeepers Naturals: save 15% on your first order when you visit beekeepersnautrals.com/msw or use promo code MSW at checkout Laurel Springs: get your registry fee waived when you visit laurelsprings.com/msw Third Love: get 15% off your first order when you visit thirdlove.com/msw Clearly Filtered: get 20% off when you visit clearlyfiltered.com/msw and use promo code MSW SUPPORT THE SHOW: Patreon  SHARE THE STRUGGLE! If you've been encouraged, share this episode with a friend.  The struggle is real.  We might as well do this together! Do you love Mom Struggling Well? Please leave a review here!

In this episode we interview Linda Kay Klein, author of Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free. This was a fascinating episode and one to not miss (in our humble opinions). Linda references her website: lindakayklein.com, her non profit organization: breakfreetogether.org and David Dickerson who authored: House of Cards: The True Story of How a 26-Year-Old Fundamentalist Virgin Learned about Life, Love, and Sex by Writing Greeting Cards. Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

In this episode we interview Linda Kay Klein, author of Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free. This was a fascinating episode and one to not miss (in our humble opinions). Linda references her website: lindakayklein.com, her non profit organization: breakfreetogether.org and David Dickerson who authored: House of Cards: The True Story of How a 26-Year-Old Fundamentalist Virgin Learned about Life, Love, and Sex by Writing Greeting Cards. Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Zhou Nutrition: At Zhou Nutrition, we believe greatness comes from within. We make supplements in our own facilities in the heart of Utah with carefully crafted formulations to support essential wellness, mind, mood, beauty, and the keto lifestyle. https://www.zhounutrition.com/ · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

What exactly is “purity culture,” and why is everyone talking about it? Was it really so harmful? Isn’t it pretty straightforward to not have sex until marriage? Today’s guest Linda Key Klein has interviewed hundreds of young women about their experiences in and after purity culture, and she has written a fantastic book about it, “Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free.” But also, what comes AFTER purity culture? Simply an “anything goes” sexual ethic, or something more robust and still identifiably "Christian"? Pure: https://smile.amazon.com/Pure-Inside-Evangelical-Movement-Generation/dp/1501124811/ref=sr_1_1?crid=369666CXFZDKC&keywords=pure+linda+kay+klein&qid=1569189472&s=gateway&sprefix=pure+linda%2Caps%2C211&sr=8-1 Linda’s personal site: https://lindakayklein.com/ Edited by Scott Cangemi Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch YHP Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: youhavepermissionpod.com Join Dan's email list: dankochwords.com Artwork by http://sprungle.co/

Episode Eighty Three Show Notes CW = Chris WolakEF = Emily Fine Purchase Book Cougars Swag on Zazzle!If you’d like to help financially support the Book Cougars, please consider becoming a Patreon member. You can DONATE HERE. If you would prefer to donate directly to us, please email bookcougars@gmail.com for instructions.Join our Goodreads Group! We have a BookTube Channel – please check it out here, and be sure to subscribe!Please subscribe to our email newsletter here.– Toni Morrison – Books we mention: The Bluest Eye, Sula, and BelovedIf you are interested in participating in the Fans of Booktopia Song of Solomon readalong, the discussion can be found HERE.– Currently Reading –A Woman of No Importance: The Untold Story of the American Spy Who Helped Win World War II – Sonia Purnell (CW)Becoming Willa Cather: Creation and Career – Daryl W. Palmer (CW)Midnight at the Blackbird Café – Heather Webber (EF)– Just Read –Lady in the Lake – Laura Lippman (EF)Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup – John Carreyrou (EF)(audio)The Farm – Joanne Ramos (EF)Middlemarch – George Eliot (CW) Chris wrote a review on her blog.Chris also recommends the audio version performed by Juliet Stevenson and plans to check out the BBC series as well as Rebecca Shoptaw’s adaptation, Middlemarch: The Series.– Biblio Adventures –Chris went to Deep River, CT to visit Bennett’s BooksEmily visited Phoenix Books in Burlington, VTMargaret Atwood: Live in Cinemas event is September 10, 2019– Upcoming Jaunts –August 19, 2019 – Chris is planning to go to RJ Julia Booksellers in Madison to see author Jessica Francis Kayne discuss her book Rules for VisitingSeptember 16-23 – Brooklyn Book FestivalOctober 26, 2019 – Hachette Book Club Brunch: A Day for Readers 2019– Upcoming Reads –Vampires of Vermont (News From the Edge #3) – Mark Sumner (CW)Song of Solomon – Toni Morrison (CW)Motherland: A Memoir of Love, Loathing, and Longing – Elissa Altman (EF)The Seven of Eight Deaths of Stella Fortuna – Juliet Grames (EF)– Author Spotlight – We had a chance to talk with Linda Kay Klein about her book Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free. You can learn more about Linda and subscribe to her newsletter HERE.– Also Mentioned –Ink and Paper Blog You Tube ChannelLike Water for Chocolate – Laura EsquivelFried Green Tomatoes at the Whistle Stop Cafe – Fannie FlaggSunburn – Laura LippmanDid You Ever Have a Family – Bill CleggWilde Lake – Laura LippmanTess Monaghan Series – Laura LippmanOrange Is the New Black – Piper KermanLiterary Disco podcastOther books by Mark Sumner: The Monster of Minnesota and Insanity, Illinois

Episode Eighty Two Show Notes CW = Chris WolakEF = Emily FinePurchase Book Cougars Swag on Zazzle! If you’d like to help financially support the Book Cougars, please consider becoming a Patreon member. You can DONATE HERE. If you would prefer to donate directly to us, please email bookcougars@gmail.com for instructions.Join our Goodreads Group! We have a BookTube Channel – please check it out here, and be sure to subscribe!Please subscribe to our email newsletter here.– Currently Reading –Middlemarch – George Eliot (CW) Eat Like a Fish: My Adventures as a Fisherman Turned Restorative Ocean Farmer – Bren Smith (EF)Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup – John Carreyrou (EF)The Farm – Joanne Ramos (EF)Three Women – Lisa Taddeo (EF)– Just Read –A Gold Slipper – Willa Cather (CW) which is part of the Willa Cather Short Story ProjectHow We Fight For Our Lives – Saeed Jones (EF) release date 10/8/19Check out his essay Alright Now at Gay Mag– Biblio Adventures –Emily went to Raven Café an Edgar Allen Poe themed restaurant in Port Huron, MIEmily made a stop at Traveler Restaurant in Union, Ct99% Invisible Episode #354 Weeding is FundamentalEmily went to Wesleyan RJ Julia to see Bianca Marais discuss her new book If You Want to Make God LaughChris hosted the Willa Cather Bookclub to discuss Sapphira and the Slave Girl. Sadly, Bookclub Bookstore & More has closed its doors, but upcoming quarterly meetings will be at the Wood Memorial Library in South Windsor, CT. South Windsor is the birthplace of Jonathan Edwards, a theologian who is famous for the sermon Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God. Check back, the next meeting of the bookclub will be in October, discussing the The Professors House.Chris took her friend, Janet, to the New York Public Library to see the Walt Whitman exhibit. She also browse Kinokuniya Books. They also did a whirlwind tour of Connecticut bookstores including: Yale Bookstore, Grey Matter Books, Sterling Memorial Library, Beinecke Library, RJ Julia Booksellers, and The Book Barn.Emily watched The Inventor documentary about TheranosEmily went to Savoy Bookshop & Cafe to hear Nancy Burns-Fusaro of Westerly Sun discuss Three Women with author Lisa Taddeo.– Upcoming Jaunts –August 8, 2019 – Odyssey Bookshop Mary Doria Russell author of The Women of the Copper Country in conversation with Rose Bookbinder.– Upcoming Reads – The Ventriloquist – E.R. Ramzipoor (CW) (release date August 27, 2019)Women Heroes of WWII: 32 Stories of Espionage, Sabotage, Resistance, and Rescue – Kathryn J. Atwood (CW)Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free – Linda Kay Klein (EF)(CW)So Long: Stories, 1987-1992 – Lucia Berlin (EF)– Author Spotlight – We caught up with Fiona Davis when we were at Book Expo. Her new book, The Chelsea Girls, is available now!Her book tour details can be found HERE.Fiona mentioned:City of Girls by Elizabeth GilbertThe Guest Book by Sarah Blake– Also Mentioned –If You Want to Make God Laugh – Bianca Marais Prelude to Bruise – Saeed Jones poetry collectionComplete Stories of Flannery O’ ConnerKillers of the Flower Moon: The Osage Murders and the Birth of the FBIBook Nation By JenBookBarCTBianca Marais recommended two books: American Dirt by Jeanine Cummins (release date 1/21/20) and Such A Fun Age by Kiley Reid (release date 1/7/20)Thy Neighbor’s Wife – Gay TaleseBooktuber Jaclyn: Six Minutes for MeInto Thin Air: A Personal Account of the Mount Everest Disaster – Jon KrakauerMidnight in the Garden of Good and Evil – John BerendtOlive Kitteridge – Elizabeth StroutThe Masterpiece – Fiona Davis

Jeff, Allen, Casey and Raj embark on a heart and head heavy journey towards pluralism as guided by Diana Eck’s markers of pluralism: "First, pluralism is not diversity alone, but the energetic engagement with diversity. Diversity can and has meant the creation of religious ghettoes with little traffic between or among them. Today, religious diversity is a given, but pluralism is not a given; it is an achievement. Mere diversity without real encounter and relationship will yield increasing tensions in our societies. Second, pluralism is not just tolerance, but the active seeking of understanding across lines of difference.Tolerance is a necessary public virtue, but it does not require Christians and Muslims, Hindus, Jews, and ardent secularists to know anything about one another. Tolerance is too thin a foundation for a world of religious difference and proximity. It does nothing to remove our ignorance of one another, and leaves in place the stereotypes, the half-truths, the fears that underlie old patterns of division and violence. In the world in which we live today, our ignorance of one another will be increasingly costly. Third, pluralism is not relativism, but the encounter of commitments. The new paradigm of pluralism does not require us to leave our identities and our commitments behind, for pluralism is the encounter of commitments. It means holding our deepest differences, even our religious differences, not in isolation, but in relationship to one another. Fourth, pluralism is based on dialogue. The language of pluralism is that of dialogue and encounter, give and take, criticism and self-criticism. Dialogue means both speaking and listening, and that process reveals both common understandings and real differences. Dialogue does not mean everyone at the “table” will agree with one another. Pluralism involves the commitment to being at the table — with one’s commitments." —Diana L. Eck, 2006, http://pluralism.org/ The co hosts discuss past teachings on the “evils of pluralism,” acknowledge the difficulties of being in relationship with people who are different,  reveal past hurts and present fears around being in relationship across boundaries, and express hope for a more pluralistic world. Conversation on Pluralism (00:47) Appledash Segment (56:24) RELEVANT LINKS  From Our Conversation on Pluralism Diana L. Eck (Harvard Scholar) Pluralism Relativism Hobbits The Evolution of Satan – Details in the Devil – 086 (Irenicast Episode) Dante’s Inferno PURE: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free by Linda Kay Klein (Book – Amazon Affiliate Link) Queer as Folk (Television Series) The Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down: A Hmong Child, Her American Doctors, and the Collision of Two Cultures by Anne Fadiman (Book – Amazon Affiliate Link) Our Religions: The Seven World Religions Introduced by Preeminent Scholars from Each Tradition by Arvind Sharma (Book – Amazon Affiliate Link) From Our Segment Appledash (This segment is also on episodes #024 & #081) Mogwai Gremlins (1984 Film) Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018 Film) YOUR SUPPORT Thank you for listening to Irenicast.  If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you’re listening on. You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping.  This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.   IRENCAST HOSTS Jeff Manildi | producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Jeff is co-founder of Irenicast and loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc. Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema.   Rev. Allen Marshall O’Brien | co-host | allen@irenicast.com Allen is the pastor of a UCC church in Northern California, resident chaplain at an area hospital, and co-founder of Irenicast. He believes in the importance of education, peace, and ecology and writes for multiple platforms. You can follow Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads.  Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen’s brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.   Rev. Bonnie Rambob | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com Bonnie is the co-pastor at Parkside Community Church. Bonnie has also served the Congregational Church of San Mateo as Transitional Minister for Intergenerational Education.  As a graduate of Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley, she offers expertise in multi-faith leadership, the spirituality of children, process theology and church organizational structure.  Drawing from her fundamentalist Christian background, she co-leads several outreach ministries to those spiritual travelers who are migrating out of fundamentalist Christianity.   Rev. Raj Rambob | co-host | raj@irenicast.com Rajeev Rambob (Raj) is spouse, of 26 years, to Bonnie Rambob. Both Bonnie and Raj are ordained ministers in the United Church of Christ. They have two adult children who are intelligent, creative, hilarious and kind. Raj has been a K-12 educator and principal.  Raj transitioned from K-12 leadership to executive leadership in the nonprofit sector. Raj's non-profit experience is largely in homelessness. Currently Raj is Executive Director of Amador Tuolumne Community Action Agency (ATCAA). ATCAA is a multi-service, anti-poverty, agency that serves two counties.  Raj loves thoughtful and irreverent conversation over food and drink with family and trusted friends. You can follow Raj on Facebook and at www.christianprocess.blogspot.com   Pastor Casey Tinnin | co-host | casey@irenicast.com Casey is the pastor of Loomis Basin Congregational Church in Loomis California.  He is one of the co-creators of Intersections which is a support group that meets once a month to deconstruct their evangelical past. Casey also created a non-religious LGBT teen group, The Landing Spot, that meets once a month. 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Note: For our audience members privacy, we have removed the "Audience Q&R" portion of this talk. From a woman who has been there and back, the first inside look at the devastating effects evangelical Christianity’s purity culture has had on a generation of young women—in a potent combination of journalism, cultural commentary, and memoir. In the 1990s, a “purity industry” emerged out of the white evangelical Christian culture. Purity rings, purity pledges, and purity balls came with a dangerous message: girls are potential sexual “stumbling blocks” for boys and men, and any expression of a girl’s sexuality could reflect the corruption of her character. This message traumatized many girls—resulting in anxiety, fear, and experiences that mimicked the symptoms of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder—and trapped them in a cycle of shame. This is the sex education Linda Kay Klein grew up with. Fearing being marked a Jezebel, Klein broke up with her high school boyfriend because she thought God told her to, and took pregnancy tests though she was a virgin, terrified that any sexual activity would be punished with an out-of-wedlock pregnancy. When the youth pastor of her church was convicted of sexual enticement of a twelve-year-old girl, Klein began to question the purity-based sexual ethic. She contacted young women she knew, asking if they were coping with the same shame-induced issues she was. These intimate conversations developed into a twelve-year quest that took her across the country and into the lives of women raised in similar religious communities—a journey that facilitated her own healing and led her to churches that are seeking a new way to reconcile sexuality and spirituality. Sexual shame is by no means confined to evangelical culture; Pure is a powerful wake-up call about our society’s subjugation of women.

The Catholic Nerds nerded out on … cleanliness? The Earth’s mightiest nerds tackle a new spate of pseudo-religious semi-feminist books: listen to the Catholic critique of Girl, Wash Your Face by Rachel Hollis, Linda Kay Klein’s Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free, and Marie Kondo’s The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up. Face front, true believers! How should purity, chastity, masculinity and femininity, virtue and responsibility be taught to young people? And what about stuff? Why do we accumulate so much stuff - some Catholic Financial Advisor tips - and so little that actually means much? How do you tidy up the Catholic way? How do Catholic families limit the stuff, the crazy amounts of toys, to give them the gift of order? And how about Disney personifying and anthropomorphizing toys all the time? Colby and Cody lament their Pokeman collections, while Scott laments Garbage Pail Kids, Pong, and 90s baseball cards. But our nerd-hearts will go on ... Like the Catholic Nerds on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/catholicnerdspodcast/ Check out our Patreon page for exclusive nerdiness: https://www.patreon.com/CatholicNerds/posts Here’s a great book for authentic Catholic manhood, The Catholic ManBook: https://amzn.to/2E5gh0O Here’s Marie Kondo’s book The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up, though it doesn’t carry the Catholic Nerds seal of approval: https://amzn.to/2EsBDGI For more financial advice from the Catholic Advisors: https://www.catholicadvisors.org/ Here’s that millennial missionaries video on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqFZVajMycI For more on Catholic fatherhood and St. Joseph, check this out: https://www.thescottsmithblog.com/2018/11/st-joseph-advent-lessons-on-catholic.html How do parents determine their children’s faith? How important is the faith of the father? https://www.thescottsmithblog.com/2016/12/fathers-determine-their-childrens-faith.html Here’s that “Jack’s Back” Titannic 2 trailer that Colby mentioned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4quvCgiuBxs Scott’s other Super Nerd website is https://nerdatron.com/ and here’s that article on the best fan theories: https://nerdatron.com/2018/07/06/best-fan-theories-lord-of-the-rings-harry-potter-fantasy-and-sci-fi-movies/

Linda Kay Klein, author of “Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free,” joins August to discuss evangelical Christianity’s purity culture, long-term effects of its messages (such as women are “stumbling blocks” and responsible for men’s sexual urges) and what healing can look like and bring. August and Dr. Megan Fleming weigh in for a listener who grew up Catholic and learning that masturbation is a sin. Can he move past the shame and feel happier in his otherwise sexless marriage? Sign up for occasional Girl Boner extras by email at augustmclaughlin.com. For the follow up blog with links mentioned in this episode, visit augustmclaughlin.com/blog.

Linda Kay Klein author of PURE: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free joins us this week.  Sexuality, sexual purity as Christian faithfulness, girls, boys, women, men, shame, guilt, American Evangelicalism, political opportunism, the Virgin Mary, healing, hope and community – these are just a few of the topics Linda discusses with Irenicast co-host, Bonnie Rambob. The conversation begins with Linda’s relay of her own personal experiences with purity culture during her adolescence.  As Linda grew, left the church and entered the secular world, she likens her struggle in the wake of purity indoctrination to include almost PTSD-like symptoms.  Though impacted women (and men) often find it hard to talk about their shame regarding sexuality, Linda heard “me too” whispers along the way coming from others with whom Linda shares a similar background.  Hence, her life-changing (according to Bonnie) well-researched book. Linda unpacks a little bit about the history of sexual repression within American Christianity and its devastating generational impact.  In the 90s, purity culture became purity industry. She and Bonnie briefly consider the influential book, I Kissed Dating Goodbye written by a young Joshua Harris.  Linda and Bonnie discuss the deep spiritual work of repentance, listening, talking and healing, all of which is part of breaking free from the oppression of purity culture. Linda shares her own spiritual journey as a Christian though not a church member.  In a rich detour from the central topic, Linda and Bonnie explore the value of spiritual community in relation to going it alone or belonging to religious institutions such as church. The conversation ends with an important question – what now?  How do we move forward? Linda shares her insights into the healing power of values- based, lifespan sexuality education curricula such as OWL (Our Whole Lives) developed in collaboration between Unitarian Universalists, United Church of Christ and Planned Parenting.  Bonnie and Linda reflect on biblical images of women’s sexuality, for example the Virgin Mary. Together they wonder about whether there is potential for reframing these images in liberative ways. In addition, Linda shares her emerging and ground-breaking work as founder of Break Free Together. If, as part of your faith life, you’ve ever experienced shame just because you are a sexual being, you might be a survivor of purity culture – and, this episode is for you.   RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation with Linda Kay Klein Author of PURE PURE: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free by Linda Kay Klein (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Joshua Harris (American Pastor and Author) Evangelical Writer Kisses An Old Idea Goodbye (Article on Joshua Harris’ recently apology for I Kissed Dating Goodbye) Faith, Hope, Chastity : Thousands of teen-agers are embracing a new Christian abstinence program. Why? Many long for moral certainties. Also, "Sex is now a matter of life and death." (1994 LA Times Article) Our Whole Lives aka OWL (comprehensive sexuality curriculum) Mary’s Magnificat (Luke 1:46-55 CEB) Break Free Together   THANK YOU A big thank you to Linda Kay Klein for talking with us this week! Linda Kay Klein author of PURE: Inside the Evangelical Movement that Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free, is also a storyteller and innovator.  Linda is also founder of Break Free Together, an organization committed to helping people release sexual shame and claim their whole selves. Linda has been featured on NPR, Elle.com, GoodHousekeeping.com, PopSugar, Refinery29, New York Magazine’s The Cut, the New York Post, Fox News Online, Mother Jones, and several other media outlets. Click here for a sampling of these media pieces. To keep up on Linda’s continuing work follow her on Twitter @LindaKayKlein or check out her website LindaKayKlein.com   YOUR SUPPORT Thank you for listening to Irenicast.  If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you’re listening on. You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping.  This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.   IRENCAST HOSTS Jeff Manildi | producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Jeff  is co-founder of Irenicast.  In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O’Brien and Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson.  Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc. Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema.   Rev. Allen Marshall O’Brien | co-host | allen@irenicast.com Allen is the pastor of a UCC church in Northern California, resident chaplain at an area hospital, and co-founder of Irenicast. He believes in the importance of education, peace, and ecology and writes for multiple platforms. You can follow Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads.  Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen’s brick and mortar version of this podcast calledIntersections.   Rev. Bonnie Rambob | co-host Bonnie is the co-pastor at Parkside Community Church. Bonnie has also served the Congregational Church of San Mateo as Transitional Minister for Intergenerational Education.  As a graduate of Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley, she offers expertise in multi-faith leadership, the spirituality of children, process theology and church organizational structure.  Drawing from her fundamentalist Christian background, she co-leads several outreach ministries to those spiritual travelers who are migrating out of fundamentalist Christianity.    Raj Rambob | co-host Rajeev Rambob (Raj) is spouse, of 26 years, to Bonnie Rambob. Both Bonnie and Raj are ordained ministers in the United Church of Christ. They have two adult children who are intelligent, creative, hilarious and kind. Raj has been a K-12 educator and principal.  Raj transitioned from K-12 leadership to executive leadership in the nonprofit sector. Raj's non-profit experience is largely in homelessness. Currently Raj is Executive Director of Amador Tuolumne Community Action Agency (ATCAA). ATCAA is a multi-service, anti-poverty, agency that serves two counties.  Raj loves thoughtful and irreverent conversation over food and drink with family and trusted friends. You can follow Raj on Facebook   Pastor Casey Tinnin | co-host Casey is the pastor of Loomis Basin Congregational Church in Loomis California.  He is one of the co-creators of Intersections which is a support group that meets once a month to deconstruct their evangelical past. Casey also created a non-religious LGBT teen group, The Landing Spot, that meets once a month. When Casey isn’t preaching, protesting, or providing pastoral care he enjoys spending his time reading comic books, talking about theology, politics and sex, baking, cooking, kayaking and spending time with his partner Jose of six years and walking their dog Kole. You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or Gutter Theology   ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter and Google+ Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on iTunes, Google Play, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on Amazon Love Us?   CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.   This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

‘Tis the episode before 2019 and all through the show, we are politicizing Christmas and hoping to grow.  Our new hosts are ready, and chosen with care. As we continue to cultivate a place for our souls to be laid bare.  So, gather in and listen to our chatter, as we serve up something fun and challenging on a digital platter. Let us call out together without haste, Merry Christmas to all and lay the establishment to waste. Irenicast is expanding its borders this week and welcoming Bonnie & Raj Rambob and Casey Tinnin as official co-hosts of Irenicast.  Listen and hear how this came together and where Irenicast is headed with this new chorus of voices. And that is not all for this super-sized holiday episode either.  All 5 hosts have a short but meaningful discussion about whether politicizing Christmas is a needless distraction or a true response to the gospel.  With everything happening in our world today it can seem that there are more parallels to the Christmas story then there has ever been. The episode finishes as everyone gathers around the proverbial fire and shares their favorite Christmas and holiday traditions.  It is fitting that this official roll out of a new direction for Irenicast happens as we celebrate the birth of a movement in the person of Jesus Christ. The Introduction of Our New Co-Hosts (00:35) Conversation on Politicizing Christmas (31:58) Holiday Traditions Segment (56:30) RELEVANT LINKS From Our Special Announcement Intersections Roundtable – A Community of EXvangelicals and UNfundies – 113 (First episode featuring our now permanent Irenicast co-hosts) Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free by Linda Kay Klein (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) From Our Conversation on Politicizing Christmas Twitter Users Mock Hannity’s Panicky New ‘War On Christmas’ Rant (Article) Parkside Community Church (Bonnie’s Church) How a local church is using a nativity scene to demand reunification of migrant families (News Coverage of Parkside’s Nativity Scene) Sacramento church protests immigration policies with caged nativity scene (More News Coverage of Parkside’s Nativity Scene) 7-year-old migrant girl taken into Border Patrol custody dies of dehydration, exhaustion (Article) Ammon Bundy breaks with Trump on anti-migrant rhetoric: ‘It’s all fear-based’ (Article) Groups want Placer County to join sanctuary state opposition (Article) The Beginning of the Gospel, Mark 1:1 (An article highlighting Mark’s parallel with the Priene Calendar Inscription) "No one puts their children in a boat unless the water is safer than the land" Trump signals US won't punish Saudi crown prince over Khashoggi killing (article) Prominent evangelical leader on Khashoggi crisis: let’s not risk “$100 billion worth of arms sales” (Article) A caravan of phony claims from the Trump administration (Article) Telling Us to Go Shopping (Article on Bush’s comments after 9/11) From Our Holiday Traditions Segment Die Hard (1988 Film) Elf (2003 Film) Jingle All the Way (1996 Film)     YOUR SUPPORT Thank you for listening to Irenicast.  If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you’re listening on. You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping.  This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show. IRENCAST HOSTS Jeff Manildi | producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Jeff  is co-founder of Irenicast.  In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O’Brien and Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson.  Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc. Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema.   Rev. Allen Marshall O’Brien | co-host | allen@irenicast.com Allen is the pastor of a UCC church in Northern California, resident chaplain at an area hospital, and co-founder of Irenicast. He believes in the importance of education, peace, and ecology and writes for multiple platforms. You can follow Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads.  Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen’s brick and mortar version of this podcast calledIntersections.   Rev. Bonnie Rambob | co-host Bonnie is the co-pastor at Parkside Community Church. Bonnie has also served the Congregational Church of San Mateo as Transitional Minister for Intergenerational Education.  As a graduate of Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley, she offers expertise in multi-faith leadership, the spirituality of children, process theology and church organizational structure.  Drawing from her fundamentalist Christian background, she co-leads several outreach ministries to those spiritual travelers who are migrating out of fundamentalist Christianity.    Raj Rambob | co-host Rajeev Rambob (Raj) is spouse, of 26 years, to Bonnie Rambob. Both Bonnie and Raj are ordained ministers in the United Church of Christ. They have two adult children who are intelligent, creative, hilarious and kind. Raj has been a K-12 educator and principal.  Raj transitioned from K-12 leadership to executive leadership in the nonprofit sector. Raj's non-profit experience is largely in homelessness. Currently Raj is Executive Director of Amador Tuolumne Community Action Agency (ATCAA). ATCAA is a multi-service, anti-poverty, agency that serves two counties.  Raj loves thoughtful and irreverent conversation over food and drink with family and trusted friends. You can follow Raj on Facebook   Pastor Casey Tinnin | co-host Casey is the pastor of Loomis Basin Congregational Church in Loomis California.  He is one of the co-creators of Intersections which is a support group that meets once a month to deconstruct their evangelical past. Casey also created a non-religious LGBT teen group, The Landing Spot, that meets once a month. When Casey isn’t preaching, protesting, or providing pastoral care he enjoys spending his time reading comic books, talking about theology, politics and sex, baking, cooking, kayaking and spending time with his partner Jose of six years and walking their dog Kole. You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or Gutter Theology ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter and Google+ Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on iTunes, Google Play, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on Amazon Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

This week's guest is Linda Kay Klein, author of Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free. This book, detailing the experience & impact of purity culture on women and girls, is a must-read for any member of the exvangelical community. In this interview, we talk about her life, her book, and in a first-ever for the show, I ask questions that were gathered from the Exvangelical facebook group. Linda and I will both be featured in this weekend's upcoming CBS Religion documentary, Deconstructing My Religion, which airs December 2nd on all CBS platforms, including streaming online. You can see a teaser for this documentary on YouTube. Learn more about Linda at lindakayklein.com. Buy Linda's book from this affiliate link to support this show. Buy an official #exvangelical t-shirt at exvangelicalpodcast.com/shop. Support the show on Patreon at patreon.com/exvangelicalpod. Rate & review the show on Apple Podcasts! Tell your friends about the show! Intro: "Night Owl" by Broke for Free. Interlude 1/Outro: "Bright Leaves" by Someone Still Loves You, Boris Yeltsin. Interlude 2: "Masseduction - piano version" by St. Vincent.

Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free by Linda Kay KleinLinda Kay Klein is the founder of Break Free Together. Sher earned her Masters degree from New York University focused on American Evangelical Christian gender & sexuality messaging for girls, and has spent over a decade working at the cross section of faith, gender, and social change. https://lindakayklein.com

Host Laura Zarrow speaks with Linda Kay Klein about Evangelical Christianity's purity movement, and its effect on a generation of American women. In the 1990s, a “purity industry” emerged out of the white evangelical Christian culture, and it carried a dangerous message: girls were potential sexual “stumbling blocks” for boys and men, and any expression of a girl’s sexuality could reflect the corruption of her character. This message traumatized many girls and trapped them in a cycle of shame. Linda Kay Klein was one of those girls, today she's the founder of Break Free Together, a program that works to help people release sexual shame and claim their whole selves. Linda is also the author of Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free.Originally aired with Host Laura Zarrow on September 26, 2018 on SiriusXM's Business Radio Powered by The Wharton School, Channel 132 See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

In Episode 72 we share our conversation with author, speaker and social entrepreneur, Linda Kay Klein. Linda just released her book, Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free. Linda is also the founder of Break Free Together - an organization that helps people to release shame and claim their whole selves.She has spent over a decade working at the intersection of faith, gender, sexuality and social change. She earned an interdisciplinary master’s degree from New York University focusing on American evangelical Christian gender and sexuality messaging for girls. Linda Kay Klein has been featured in the New York Post, the Huffington Post, National Public Radio, and now, Sandbox Cooperative!

Laura Polk from No Shame Movement joins the show! Laura is My guest this week is the wonderful Laura Polk. She is an anthropologist, writer, and an online pioneer in critiquing and making space for people who are deconstructing purity culture. Her site, No Shame Movement, began in 2013 with the intent to "create a platform for people to discuss growing up in conservative Christian environments that were taught abstinence only and “unlearning” this ideology as adults." In this conversation, we talk about her life, purity culture, the intersection of race and religion, Bibleman, and much more. Follow Laura @seelolago, and subscribe to her newsletter. She is also featured in a chapter of Linda Kay Klein's book, Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free, which is out now. Support this podcast Exvangelical shirts are now available! Buy one here!

Why is making friends in adulthood so tough?  On this episode Ashley and Katey discuss the ways that we've tried (and failed) to find friends, how we've learned to change our friendship expectations over time, and some ways that we carved out space for friendship in our busy schedules (even with young kiddos!). If you're looking to make new friends, here are some things you might try: Consider making your home (or a space you like to go) the place where people gather. Invite folks for a potluck dinner, a board game night, or a celebration of a minor holiday. Yes, you'll have to clean up before (and after), but it'll probably be worth it. Ask your friends to connect you with their friends. Think friend blind dates. When an opportunity comes along, say yes. Take the risk and dive in. If you can't get together at the proposed time or if you need to cancel, apologize and make a specific plan to meet up in the very near future.  Err on the generous side. Be the one to invite others. Let go of what others "should" do and do what you *want* to do. Make community happen on your terms. What We're Reading and Listening To  Ashley recently finished Just Mercy by Bryan Stevenson about his work at the Equal Justice Initiative, an organization that provides legal defense for people who can’t afford it.  Ashley describes the writing style as "John Grisham-like," which will engross you from the start. Stevenson ends the book by suggesting practical ways for citizens to get involved with ending mass incarceration. Katey devoured an advanced copy of Linda Kay Klein's now-available book Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free. She takes on the purity movement in a no-holds-barred-kind of way that Kindreds listeners will just love. (If you haven't listened to our episode "Dating Rules," go check it out.)  Kindreds of the Moment Katey shares about her newest professional endeavor as the newest team member of Crouch & Associates, a performance consulting firm that truly lives into the values we espouse to our clients. If you're involved with a nonprofit organization that needs assistance with fundraising, please reach out to us. Stuff We Talked About The Little Book of Lykke  11 Perfectly Introverted Ways To Make Friends As An Adult” Next time on Kindreds  we'll be talking about meditation, prayer, and spiritual practices. Visit the shownotes here: http://kindredspodcast.com/2018/08/28/episode-23-friendship-in-adulthood/ **Have you pledged to support Kindreds on our Patreon page? You can sign up in less than a minute–and for as little as $1 a month. Thanks for helping us cover the cost of making, producing, and sharing this show www.patreon.com/kindreds**