Podcast appearances and mentions of Kelly Campbell

How do you create a thriving venue in a competitive market? In this episode of The Marketing Madmen, Nick Constantino sits down with Kelly Campbell and Michaela Palevic of Westside Motor Lounge to discuss event marketing, sponsorship strategies, and how to evolve nightlife experiences for modern audiences. They dive into collaborative promotions, engaging activations, and the future of live music and social culture in Atlanta. #MarketingMadmen #WestsideMotorLounge #EventMarketing #NightlifeStrategy #AtlantaNightlife #LiveMusic #BrandPartnerships #Sponsorships #VinylCulturepatreon.com/TheMarketingMadMen: https://www.nick-constantino.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, I sit down with Kelly Campbell—homeschooling mom, entrepreneur, and the heart behind From Home to Hustle and Looks Like Home with Kelly. Kelly is creating something really special: a community where women can talk honestly about what it looks like to run a business and raise a family, all while staying rooted in their faith.She shares how her own journey led her to support other moms with entrepreneurial dreams, and what it takes to build something meaningful without burning out. This conversation is packed with real talk, business insight, and a whole lot of heart.In this episode, we cover: How From Home to Hustle started (and why it's more than just a YouTube channel) Why she's passionate about helping women find purpose in their home and in their hustle Tips for balancing homeschooling, motherhood, and growing a business The role faith plays in her decision-making and leadership Encouragement for anyone wondering if they can really do both Website: lookslikehomewithkelly.com YouTube: From Home to Hustle Podcast: From Home to Hustle on Apple Facebook: Looks Like Home with Kelly Campbell Whether you're a homeschooling parent, dreaming up your next move, or just craving community—you'll find something here that speaks to you.Connect with Kelly: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Questions? Comments? Episode suggestions? Send us a text message!#201: Kelly Campbell is a Trauma-Informed Leadership Coach for emerging and established leaders.  She explains the different sources of trauma, how it can affect your work, and what you can do to heal your trauma.What you'll learn[02:01] Why Kelly became trauma specialised coach.[04:50] The trauma Kelly faced growing up.[06:31] Effective business characteristics that trauma creates.[07:37] How to identify burnout.[10:19] Unhealthy characteristics that are praised in a business context.[11:12] How companies should approach burnout.[12:49] What childhood trauma involves.[15:35] The compounding nature of trauma.[17:31] How to not internalise traumatic events.[20:45] How trauma presents itself in the workplace.[23:25] The importance of identifying underlying traumas.[26:20] The necessity of identifying the source of your traumas.[28:32] How to know you've successfully addressed your traumas.[30:30] How realistic healing your traumas is.[31:34] What you can do to heal trauma by yourself.[34:18] When to get external support for trauma.[35:20] The problems with talk therapy.[37:17] The type of practitioners that can help people with trauma.[41:26] What happens when you address your trauma.Resources mentioned in this episodePlease note that some of these are affiliate links and we may get a commission in the event that you make a purchase.  This helps us to cover our expenses and is at no additional cost to you.CDC-Kaiser Permanente Study on adverse childhood experiencesBessel van der KolkMy Healing MenuFor the show notes for this episode, including a full transcript and links to all the resources mentioned, visit:https://changeworklife.com/how-trauma-affects-you-at-work-and-what-you-can-do-about-it/Re-assessing your career?  Know you need a change but don't really know where to start?  Check out these two exercises to start the journey of working out what career is right for you!

Kelly Campbell is Associate Dean of Information Services and Senior Director of the John Bulow Campbell Library at Columbia Theological Seminary. 

Dr. Laura welcomes Kelly Campbell, a Trauma-Informed Leadership Coach, keynote speaker, and author of the book Heal to Lead, to the podcast to talk about “the new TLC”, Trauma, Leadership, and Consciousness. Kelly was a successful CEO who sold her business in 2016 after a personal deep dive to learn who she was without the title of CEO. Her journey now, as she shares with Dr. Laura, is all about helping people heal unresolved trauma so they can lead from a place of wholeness.  Kelly differentiates between ‘big T' and ‘little t' trauma by definition but she identifies that the continuous nature of ‘little t' trauma erodes a sense of self over time and that all trauma is deeply impactful. It is both big and little T trauma, often unaddressed, that prevents leaders from being able to lead with compassion. Dr. Laura and Kelly explore the themes in her book, Heal to Lead, and why she was first moved to write the book. With powerful insights, famous examples, and a true understanding of what is needed for healing, Kelly's message resonates powerfully with Dr. Laura and anyone who hears this episode.“So the impetus for writing this book was, wow, I think I've landed on something in this correlation between trauma, unresolved trauma, unintegrated trauma in particular, and leadership style, leadership efficacy. And why is no one talking about this? So between the work that I was doing and my first-hand experience and my training, I was like, okay, well, if that book doesn't exist, I think it's time to write it.” Kelly CampbellWatch this episode on Dr. Laura's YouTube channelAbout Kelly Campbell:Kelly L. Campbell (they/she) speaks and writes about trauma, leadership, and consciousness— ”The New TLC.” The author of Heal to Lead (Wiley, April 2024), Kelly is a Trauma-Informed Leadership Coach to emerging and established leaders who know they are meant for more. Kelly's vision is for more than half of humanity to heal its childhood trauma so that we may reimagine and rebuild the world together. Resources:Website: KLCampbell.comSubstack: KellyLCampbell.substack.com“Heal to Lead” by Kelly L Campbell Kelly Campbell on InstagramKelly Campbell on LinkedIn Kelly Campbell Leadership QuizHealing Resources: MyHealingMenu.comLearn more about Dr. Laura on her website: https://drlaura.liveFor more resources, look into Dr. Laura's organizations: Canada Career CounsellingSynthesis Psychology

Kelly Campbell is Associate Dean of Information Services and Senior Director of the John Bulow Campbell Library at Columbia Theological Seminary. A healthy ecology of teaching includes librarians and libraries. Libraries are magical nonjudgemental spaces. The responsibility of librarians for resourcing, teaching, and technology is invaluable and underacknowledged. The leadership role of librarians for needed shifts in educational systems is underestimated.  Librarians must be at the table. 

Kelly L. Campbell (they/them) a Trauma-Informed Leadership Coach to emerging and established leaders who want to live, lead, and love with more confidence and freedom. They also do one-on-one Sacred Trauma Healing with those who have experienced trauma in childhood or adulthood. Kelly writes about “The New TLC”—trauma, leadership, and consciousness—on Substack, for Entrepreneur, and in their book, HEAL TO LEAD: Revolutionizing Leadership through Trauma Healing (Wiley, 2024). Their vision is for more than half of humanity to heal its childhood trauma so that we may reimagine and rebuild the world together.Find Kelly here: https://klcampbell.com/Kelly L. C. - Wiley | LinkedInhttps://www.instagram.com/kelly.l.campbell

Unresolved trauma can dramatically impact our personal lives. But what about professionally? Business leaders with unresolved trauma may eventually find that it cannot only hinder their leadership abilities, but also impact their organization's bottom line. This episodes guest is Kelly L. Campbell (they/she), a certified trauma-informed leadership coach and author of Heal to Lead: Revolutionizing Leadership through Trauma Healing, a radical new book on transforming trauma into innate leadership power.As a trauma-informed leadership coach, speaker, facilitator, writer, and author, they empower self-aware visionaries to correlate their past wounds to their leadership style, transforming the way they lead, live, and loveAs a keynote speaker, workshop facilitator, coach, podcast host, writer, and author, Kelly inspires revelation and responsibility in leaders across the globe. She writes for Entrepreneur, has written for Forbes, and offers exclusive content on their Substack—“The New TLC: Trauma, Leadership, and Consciousness.”They are also the founder of Consciousness Leaders, the world's most diverse and equitable speaker representation agency, empowering organizations to drive lasting results and create transformative change in the world.  The former CEO of a cause marketing agency for fourteen years, Kelly has been a consultant to Meta (Facebook) and NASA. For four years, she hosted THRIVE: Your Agency Resource, a top, sponsored podcast for creative leaders seeking personal growth and conscious leadership.A longtime conservationist, Kelly was trained by Al Gore as a Climate Reality Leader in 2017. Most recently, they became certified as a Reiki Level III Practitioner and a Trained Cuddlist® Professional. Kelly's vision is to empower more than half of humanity to heal its childhood trauma so that we may reimagine and rebuild the world together. She currently resides in Palisades, New York with her rescue pup, Harleigh.Send us a textThe Family Room Wellness AssociatesOnline Therapy and Coaching with Jason Wasser, LMFTCheck out our guests books!Want to learn more from our guests and also see what products I suggest?Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show

CONTENT WARNING: This story contains content that will be triggering for some, including mental illness and substance abuse. Please take care of yourself while listening and take a break if needed. If you or someone you know is feeling suicidal, please call Lifeline on 13 11 14. After Kelly Campbell experienced a stroke, she lost her job and was suddenly dependent on welfare payments. Shocked to find the system was bureaucratic and unhelpful, she can't count the number of times she wasn't listened to. Then, after her rental lease ended, she found herself homeless. Supported by Shelter WA, funded by Sisters of St John of God and produced by Centre for Stories, More Than Our Stories is a collection of lived experiences of homelessness and housing insecurity from Shelter WA's HOME Lived Experience Advisory Group. Storytellers were supported to share some of their experiences and advocate for essential housing reform. If you enjoyed this episode, learn more about Centre for Stories at www.centreforstories.com or donate to support us. Thank you.

How will NBC's Peacock keep up the momentum from a buzzy summer of Olympic glory and Love Island drama? Peacock President Kelly Campbell joins Rapid Response host Bob Safian to share her strategy for the streaming wars, the role of NFL games and other live sports, and the interplay between NBC's plans and Peacock's future. From Gen Z viewing habits to Emmy nominations, Campbell lays out a vision so expansive that it might remind you of a cable TV bundle.Visit the Rapid Response website here: https://www.rapidresponseshow.com/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode, Helee Lev and Ryan Nelson are joined by Kelly Campbell, a trauma-informed leadership coach, speaker, facilitator, writer, & author, to explore how past wounds shape leadership styles and discuss the impact of low-conscious leadership on climate change. They offer strategies for shifting towards more sustainable practices, emphasizing the urgent need for a mindset change to protect our planet's future.

Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts In this episode of the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast, I interviewed Kelly Campbell, a trauma-informed leadership coach and the author of Heal to Lead: Revolutionizing Leadership Through Trauma Healing. Kelly Campbell specializes in guiding leaders to integrate trauma awareness into their leadership styles, fostering supportive and effective team environments. With a deep understanding of how unprocessed trauma can influence behavior and leadership dynamics, They offer an interesting perspective and a novel lens for transforming workplace culture.   Key Takeaways What is Trauma, and do we have enough (that's right) enough of it? Kelly Campbell defines trauma as “unintegrated energy and information" that overwhelms the nervous system, affecting how leaders respond to stress and interact with their teams. We discuss the critical role of trauma-informed leadership in creating a supportive and innovative work environment. By acknowledging and addressing personal and collective trauma, leaders can enhance trust, collaboration, and psychological safety within their organizations. We probably won't go as far as to call it a "safe space" as, according to them, only your employees can determine that. But a “supportive environment,” for sure. T - Trauma L - Leadership C - Consciousness Kelly Campbell emphasizes the importance of self-awareness in leadership. They explain that many leaders unconsciously exhibit people-pleasing or controlling behaviors, which can undermine team morale and productivity. Through self-reflection and trauma healing, leaders can shift from reactive to responsive behaviors, understand their internal biases, and foster a culture of openness and growth. Understanding and integrating trauma-informed leadership practices improves individual well-being and drives organizational success by enhancing employee engagement, innovation, and retention.   More About Kelly Campbell: Connect with Kelly Campbell on LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/kellylcampbell/ Visit their Website - klcampbell.com/ Grab a Copy of Heal to Lead: Revolutionizing Leadership through Trauma Healing - amzn.to/4cE6j4X If you liked this episode, please rate and review the show. Click here - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-duct-tape-marketing-podcast/id78797836 scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then, let us know what you loved most about the episode. Connect with John Jantsch on LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/ducttapemarketing/ Are you stuck trying to figure out your marketing strategy? Get Your Free AI Prompts To Build A Marketing Strategy HERE - dtm.world/freeprompts

Andrea, the host of the Voice of Influence podcast, interviews Kelly Campbell, an expert on trauma, leadership, and consciousness, and author of 'Heal to Lead.' Kelly, a trauma informed leadership coach, shares her vision for widespread healing of childhood trauma to improve the world. She discusses the impact of childhood and adult trauma, the importance of somatic healing practices, and the need for trauma-informed leadership. The conversation delves into Kelly's personal experiences with trauma and her journey towards healing, emphasizing the significance of understanding and integrating trauma to better lead oneself and others.   Kelly speaks and writes about trauma, leadership, and consciousness—”The New TLC.” The author of Heal to Lead (Wiley, April 2024), Kelly is a Trauma-Informed Leadership Coach to emerging and established leaders who know they are meant for more. Kelly's vision is for more than half of humanity to heal its childhood trauma so that we may reimagine and rebuild the world together.       Read the show notes here:   https://www.voiceofinfluence.net/317 Give and receive feedback that makes a difference! Register for our 20 minute Deep Impact Method video course here:  www.voiceofinfluence.net/deepimpact

This week we have two fascinating conversations. We start off with author Kelly Campbell; they are the author of the new book "Heal to Lead." Oftentimes we think about healing to better our personal lives, but the same process can be applied to your professional life as well. Kelly is a leader in this particular space and the interview will definitely leave you with a lot to think about! Daniella Gray also stops by. Daniella is a Newsweek Family & Parenting Reporter, based in London. She's become an incredible media contact at Pace and she shares the ins and outs of her day reporting and filing several stories in the mental health space. Enjoy!

Andy Goram speaks with Kelly Campbell, a trauma-informed leadership coach, who shares their personal journey and insights on the impact of childhood trauma on leadership behaviour. Through their own experiences and professional expertise, they delve into the correlation between unresolved trauma and leadership patterns, highlighting the connection between childhood experiences and adult leadership styles. Kelly's emphasis on the importance of acknowledging and addressing trauma, both on a personal and organisational level, offers valuable perspectives for leaders and managers and offers up a path to healing. ----more---- Key Takeaways The importance of addressing trauma in leadership roles for a healthier work environment. The impact of unresolved trauma on workplace culture and how it affects team dynamics. The practical steps to begin trauma healing for leaders, fostering personal growth and more effective leadership. Trauma-informed leadership practices to create a more supportive and inclusive workplace. How healing trauma can benefit organisational wellbeing, productivity and employee engagement.  ----more---- Key Moments The key moments in this episode are: 00:00:10 - Introduction to Sticky from the Inside  00:01:11 - Impact of Unresolved Trauma on Leadership  00:02:16 - Trauma-Informed Leadership and Kelly's Journey  00:08:23 - Trauma-Informed Leadership Definition  00:11:00 - Writing "Heal to Lead"  00:16:12 - People Pleasing Or Controlling Leaders  00:18:24 - The Impact of Unhealed Trauma in Leadership  00:21:43 - The Epidemic of Not-Enoughness  00:27:41 - Taking Responsibility for Healing  00:30:49 - Lifetime Commitment to Healing  00:31:32 - The Concept of Healing Trauma  00:32:39 - Taking Responsibility  00:39:09 - Impact on Organisations  00:42:31 - Business Sense of Caring  00:46:33 - Sticky Notes of Wisdom  00:48:17 - The Ripple Effect of Healing  00:48:47 - Connect with Kelly Campbell ----more---- Join The Conversation Find Andy Goram on LinkedIn here Follow the Podcast on Instagram here Follow the Podcast on Twitter here Follow the Podcast on Facebook here Check out the Bizjuicer website here Get a free consultation with Andy here Check out the Bizjuicer blog here Download the podcast here ----more---- Useful Links Follow Kelly Campbell on LinkedIn here Follow Kelly Campbell on Instagram here Find Kelly's website here Find the book "Heal To Lead" here Access the Healing Menu here ----more---- Full Episode Transcript Get the full transcript of the episode here

Discover how the echoes of our childhood can resonate through our leadership styles as Kelly Campbell, author of "Heal to Lead," joins us to unravel the complex ties between past traumas and present-day management techniques. By introducing the concept of compassionate intelligence, distinct from empathy, Kelly illuminates a path toward more self-aware and empathetic leadership. The discussion delves into the four pillars of high conscious leadership, providing listeners with a blueprint for incorporating compassion into their leadership approach, ensuring that the emotional needs of both employees and leaders are met without compromising organizational goals.Navigating the intricate dance of fostering a supportive work environment while setting healthy boundaries can be as nuanced as choreographing a ballet. This episode tackles the fine line HR professionals and managers walk when they border on counseling roles in the workplace. We explore personal stories of overcommitment and its impact on leadership reliability. Kelly and I also analyze the necessity of establishing boundaries, not only for the sake of professional clarity but also for personal well-being, highlighting strategies to prevent burnout and ensure that leaders can sustainably support their teams.We close our candid conversation with a heartfelt reflection on the power of vulnerability in leadership and HR. Kelly's personal experiences add an intimate layer to our examination of the often-undiscussed topic of trauma in the workplace. Resources like myhealingmenu.com emerge as beacons for those looking to begin or continue their healing journey beyond traditional talk therapy. This episode offers more than just insights; it's an invitation to transform your leadership narrative through the transformative power of storytelling and shared human experiences. Join us on the Rebel HR podcast for a dialogue that breaks barriers and paves the way for a future where vulnerability is not just accepted but celebrated.What If? So What?We discover what's possible with digital and make it real in your businessListen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the Show.Rebel HR is a podcast for HR professionals and leaders of people who are ready to make some disruption in the world of work. Please connect to continue the conversation! https://twitter.com/rebelhrguyhttps://www.facebook.com/rebelhrpodcasthttp://www.kyleroed.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-roed/

Kelly L. Campbell is a deeply intentional multi-hyphenate with an anti-bureau approach to change that endures. Through the radical lens of trauma-informed healing, they invite the visionaries of today and tomorrow to get comfortable with being uncomfortable. Granting permission to disrupt and agency to rebuild, so that all are empowered to feel safe, loved and seen.Website: https://klcampbell.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kelly.l.campbellBook Joel as your Keynote Speaker: www.joelgoldbergmedia.com Connect with Joel: https://linktr.ee/joelgoldbergkc 

Struggling to engage your students in math? This episode explores a unique solution! Join Tom Everson (Keep Kids Alive Drive 25) alongside Kelly Campbell and Jillian Garrigues (Idaho Transportation Dept.) as they discuss a curriculum that uses real-world traffic data to make math come alive for young people. Hear from Josie Derrick, a Boise math teacher, about her experience implementing this innovative program. https://itd.idaho.gov/news/do-the-math/

Cottage Baker, Author, Christian Women's Network Director and Entrepreneur extraordinaire, Kelly Campbell, is Erica's guest today - listen in as they talk about all things sourdough and making life easier for busy moms. Kelly will share how she started her business years ago and then rebuilt it after moving to Waco. Learn about life for the Campbell family in WacoTown and how Kelly is trying to make life a little easier for all us. Let her be busy so you don't have to be! Interested in her subscriptions or ordering bread or cinnamon rolls? Check out https://www.lookslikehomewithkelly.com and be sure to follow her on Social @lookslikehomewithkelly As always, if you have real estate questions or you're curious about the best ways to get plugged in here in Waco, please reach out to Erica - 254-447-0180 and follow the Boisvert's at @boisvertrealtyteam  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In today's post, we dive into an insightful conversation with Kelly Campbell, a trauma-informed leadership coach and author of “Heal to Lead: Revolutionizing Leadership Through Trauma Healing”. Understanding Trauma in the WorkplaceDr. Heather Walker begins the episode by welcoming Kelly Campbell and highlighting the pervasive nature of stress in the workplace. She underscores the importance of understanding how trauma can be stored in the body and manifest in various ways, affecting individuals' interactions at work.What it Means to be Trauma-InformedKelly explains that trauma, derived from the Greek word meaning "wound," refers to experiences that overwhelm our nervous system's ability to cope, causing these experiences to be stored in the body. She describes trauma in terms of “unintegrated information” – information and experiences that remain unresolved within us.The Role of a Trauma-Informed LeaderA trauma-informed leader, as Kelly describes, is someone who has undergone training to understand trauma, its manifestations, and how to address it compassionately in the workplace. She differentiates between being trauma-aware, trauma-informed, and trauma-responsive, with her role focusing on the middle ground of being trauma-informed.Practical Steps for LeadersDr. Walker and Kelly discuss practical steps for leaders dealing with challenging scenarios. For example, they explore how to handle a scenario involving a manager named David, whose behavior of interrupting colleagues and making hasty decisions has caused frustration among his team.Moving Towards Compassionate LeadershipKelly shares that becoming a trauma-informed leader involves self-awareness, compassion, and the willingness to engage in one's own healing work. She draws from Buddhist psychology and other practices that emphasize understanding and compassion for both oneself and others.Integrating Levity into LeadershipGiven the heavy nature of trauma-related topics, Dr. Walker shifts the conversation towards incorporating levity and joy into daily routines. Kelly suggests several ways to integrate fun and lightness, such as dancing, walking barefoot in nature, or even jumping on a mini-trampoline. Looking ForwardKelly shares her excitement about upcoming engagements, including speaking at various conferences and doing book readings in plant shops – environments she finds particularly joyful and refreshing. For those interested in learning more about Kelly and her work, she directs them to her website, KLCampbell.com.ConclusionIn this episode, Dr. Heather Walker and Kelly Campbell provided valuable insights into the importance of trauma-informed leadership and practical steps for fostering a supportive workplace. By integrating compassion, self-awareness, and even a bit of levity into leadership practices, leaders can create environments where team members feel heard, valued, and empowered to thrive.Support the Show.Did you have any lightbulb moments while listening? Share it with us on Instagram @leadwithlevity or visit our website leadwithlevity.com so we can talk about it!

Today's guest is Kelly Campbell, a former CEO turned Trauma-Informed Leadership Coach. She is also the author of Heal to Lead: Revolutionizing Leadership through Trauma Healing (Wiley), an inspired keynote speaker and a longtime conservationisttrained by Al Gore as a Climate Reality Leader in 2017.In this candid and raw interview, Kelly discusses the intersection of personal trauma and professional leadership, and she sheds light on the profound ways that unresolved childhood experiences can shape our leadership styles. It's a show – don't tell type of conversation. She shares the story of how she founded and built a successful digital marketing agency. Kelly talks about the success, but is not afraid to delve into her own leadership challenges which were sparked by a crisis at the tender age of nine.Like all good stories it has a happy ending, as Kelly takes us through how these experiences led her to a journey of personal, spiritual and professional transformation, and ultimately informed her mission to guide leaders through their past to enhance their influence and effectiveness.Contact Dino at: dino@al4ep.comWebsites:al4ep.comklcampbell.comAdditional Guest Links:Contact at: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kellylcampbell/Instagram: @kelly.l.campbellBook - Heal to Lead: klcampbell.com/heal-to-lead-book/ - on AmazonAuthentic Leadership For Everyday People / Dino CattaneoDino on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dinocattaneoPodcast Instagram – @al4edp Podcast Twitter – @al4edp Podcast Facebook: facebook.com/al4edpMusicSusan Cattaneo: susancattaneo.bandcamp.comThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy

Does childhood trauma impact leadership in organizations? Rarely is this topic discussed, which is why I'm eager to bring this episode to you today. To discuss this complex topic, I invited Kelly Campbell, trauma-informed leadership coach and author of the book "Heal to Lead". Kelly shares her personal journey of healing from childhood trauma and how that inspired her to do the work she does now.Trauma is something we've all encountered in one form or another.These past experiences of trauma can, and will, influence our behavior, emotions, and decision-making in our current leadership roles.  Kelly emphasizes the importance of developing self-awareness to recognize trauma-based patterns and reactions. She also provides strategies for trauma integration, including somatic work, plant medicines, and other modalities.Kelly argues that trauma-informed leadership can lead to better long-term results and sustainability for businesses. In this episode:Unconscious impacts of childhood trauma on leadership Developing self-awareness to recognize trauma patterns Trauma-informed leadership through supportive environmentsStrategies for trauma integrationAnd more!Power Presence Academy | Leadership with Less Ego And More Soul is the go-to podcast for anyone who leads. Your host is Janet Ioli, leadership and human development expert, sought-after coach and advisor to global executives, and former executive with experience in four Fortune 100 companies. She helps leaders ground themselves with confidence, connection, and purpose to lead with Less Ego and More Soul.Resource Links:Kelly Campbell is an author, speaker, and coach helping leaders heal from trauma for improved leadership. In her book "Heal to Lead", Kelly shares how her own experiences with childhood trauma unconsciously shaped her leadership style as an entrepreneur, and how deeper healing work led to greater self-awareness and success. Her work aims to make trauma-informed practices the new competitive advantage for organizations.Heal to Lead by Kelly CampbellConnect with Kelly:Website: klcampbell.comLinkedin: Kelly CampbellInstagram: @kelly.l.campbellConnect with Janet Ioli:Website: janetioli.comLinkedin: Janet IoliInstagram: @janetioliJanet is the founder of Power Presence Academy. She helps leaders ground themselves with confidence, connection, and purpose and lead with Less Ego, More Soul.If you want to become more grounded, confident, and aligned with your deeper values in just 21 days. Check out Janet Ioli's book Less Ego, More Soul: A Modern Reinvention Guide for Women.If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Select “Listen in Apple Podcasts,” then choose the “Ratings & Reviews” tab to share what you think. Produced by Ideablossoms

I am honored to welcome Kelly Campbell back to the podcast. If you haven't already, I highly recommend listening to Kelly's first episode. In this episode, Kelly and I discuss their new book, Heal to Lead: Revolutionizing Leadership through Trauma Healing, and its transformative journey toward understanding the essence of leadership.From the very first page, Kelly captivates readers with profound insights into trauma, healing, and true leadership. Through their own experiences and insightful narratives, Kelly emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and inner work in becoming effective leaders. What truly sets this book apart is its compassionate approach to addressing trauma, offering a nurturing space for growth and healing without casting blame.Episode Resources:Order Heal to Lead HereKelly's Website ThriveHealing ResourcesFollow Kelly Campbell LinkedInFollow Kelly Campbell on InstagramFollow Kelly Campbell on SubstackLink to purchase:FYLPxTracee Badway Merch CollaborationFYLPxWRDSMTH Merch Collaboration*suggestion is to size upDownload this episode of For Your Listening Pleasure wherever you get your podcasts! Make sure you follow us on Instagram @foryourlisteningpleasure Click here to listen to the For Your Listening Pleasure Theme Song Playlist on Spotify.To continue the conversation, feel free to DM me at https://www.instagram.com/foryourlisteningpleasure/ or email me at foryourlisteningpleasure@gmail.com.

Segment 1 starting at 0:00 with Justin Jones-Fosu.Let's face it, we live in a divided world. This happens in business and our personal life.  Staying in our own bubble isn't the solution. So how do you have these difficult conversations.When Justin Jones-Fosu is not summiting life's metaphorical mountains, he's literally trekking around world, whether on Mt Kilimanjaro, Patagonia, camping out in the Grand Canyon, or navigating the ancient steps of Machu Picchu. Author of books that are more like treks through the human spirit, his latest, "I Respectfully Disagree: How to Have Difficult Conversations in a Divided World".Segment 2 starting at 19:01 with Kelly Campbell.Unresolved trauma can affect your leadership style and your company bottom line. Kelly L. Campbell inspires responsibility in leaders across the globe. As a trauma-informed leadership coach, they empower self-aware visionaries to correlate their past wounds to their leadership style They are the author of "Heal to Lead", a radical new book on transforming trauma into innate leadership power.

Trauma is a term we hear used more often today than ever before. It can lead to a ripple effect, impacting everything from a person's ability to make decisions to how they handle stress. What qualifies as trauma? And how to employers prevent it from leading to distraction and an uptick in injuries on the job? Learn what these stored experiences mean for our minds, bodies - and our safety - with Kelly Campbell, certified trauma-informed leadership coach, author, and keynote speaker.

Matt is joined by the president of Peacock, Kelly Campbell, to discuss Peacock's unique place in the streaming universe, how live sports supercharged its growth, and how it plans to improve its coverage of the Olympics as their exclusive digital home. They also discuss how gaining NBA rights could affect Peacock's content output and whether a joint venture with Paramount Plus or Max could ever work. Matt finishes the show with a prediction about ESPN's over-the-top service after Disney's latest earnings call. For a 20 percent discount on Matt's Hollywood insider newsletter, ‘What I'm Hearing ...,' click this link: puck.news/thetown Email us your thoughts! thetown@spotify.com Host: Matt Belloni Guest: Kelly Campbell Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie Lopez Theme Song: Devon Renaldo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kelly Campbell is a trauma-informed leadership coach and author of the new book “Heal to Lead: Revolutionizing Leadership Through Trauma Healing.” Kelly brings us the insights we need to be responsible for our own healing. It is different for each of us, but the healing work is entirely up to us. And while it may seem daunting, doing the work brings true freedom.www.klcampbell.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kelly Campbell is a trauma-informed leadership coach and author of the new book “Heal to Lead: Revolutionizing Leadership Through Trauma Healing.” Kelly brings us the insights we need to be responsible for our own healing. It is different for each of us, but the healing work is entirely up to us. And while it may seem daunting, doing the work brings true freedom. www.klcampbell.com 

Points of Interest00:01 – 00:58 – Introduction: Marcel Petitpas introduces the episode and guest Kelly Campbell, a trauma-informed leadership coach. Discussion about Kelly's new book, “Heal to Lead,” and their approach to trauma, leadership, and consciousness.01:03 – 01:21 – Kelly Campbell's Professional Background: Kelly shares their professional journey from owning a digital marketing agency to becoming a trauma-informed leadership coach, focusing on the deeper motivations and fears that impact leaders.03:03 – 04:38 – The Importance of Addressing Trauma in Leadership: Marcel highlights the personal relevance of the discussion on trauma in leadership and its impact on personal development and business effectiveness.04:38 – 07:54 – Impact of Trauma on Leadership Styles: Kelly discusses how both small and large traumas shape leadership styles, personal relationships, and professional environments.18:03 – 19:42 – Personal Reflections on Growth and Impact of Trauma: Marcel reflects on his personal development journey, the impact of pausing growth activities, and the importance of continuous self-awareness.23:15 – 28:37 – Healing and Leadership Coaching Techniques: Kelly provides insights into the modalities and processes they use in their trauma-informed leadership coaching, emphasizing the integration of trauma for enhancing personal and professional growth.37:07 – 38:49 – Conclusion and Book Promotion: Where to find Kelly's book, the significance of supporting independent bookstores, and final thoughts on the necessity of addressing trauma in leadership for better overall effectiveness.Show NotesBook Pre-Order: https://klcampbell.com/heal-to-lead-book/Website: https://klcampbell.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kelly.l.campbellLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellylcampbell/Substack: https://kellylcampbell.substack.com/Leadership Quiz: https://klcampbell.com/leadership/Healing Resources: https://myhealingmenu.comLove the Podcast?Leave us a review here.

In this episode, I'm joined by Kelly L. Campbell, a pioneer in trauma-informed leadership and the author of the revolutionary book, "Heal to Lead." We discuss how addressing trauma can fundamentally transform leadership styles, promoting environments of trust, psychological safety, and true connectivity within organizations. Kelly shares their journey from founding a cause marketing agency to writing her book, driven by their desire to revolutionize leadership through trauma healing.   The episode delves into the concept of trauma-informed leadership, the significance of understanding one's trauma, the negative impact of neglecting this aspect, and how leaders can foster psychologically safe environments that encourage vulnerability, resilience, and collective growth. Kelly details her experiences and the influences that shaped her views on leadership and organizational culture.   Kelly L. Campbell (they/she) inspires revelation and responsibility in leaders across the globe. As a trauma-informed leadership coach, speaker, facilitator, writer, and author, they empower self-aware visionaries to correlate their past wounds to their leadership style, transforming the way they lead, live, and love. Her debut book, Heal to Lead: Revolutionizing Leadership through Trauma Healing (Wiley) will be released in April 2024.   They write for Entrepreneur, have written for Forbes, and offer exclusive content to their Substack community, “The New TLC: Trauma, Leadership, and Consciousness.” Early in their career, Kelly was the founder and CEO of a cause marketing agency and sold it in 2016, which led her to advise Fortune 50 corporations, nonprofits, government organizations, and marketing and advertising agencies. They have hosted two top-rated podcasts since 2006—one on holistic health and wellness and the other on conscious leadership for marketing and advertising agency leaders.   A longtime conservationist, Kelly was trained by Al Gore as a Climate Reality Leader in 2017. Most recently, they became certified as a Reiki Level III Practitioner. Kelly's vision is to empower more than half of humanity to heal its childhood trauma so that we may reimagine and rebuild the world together.  

Conscious and Trauma-Informed Leadership: An interview with Kelly L. Campbell Curt and Katie interview Kelly Campbell about her work with leaders. We explore the ways in which trauma can impact leaders, their teams, and their organizations. We also look at what trauma-informed leadership coaching can look like, including overarching goals for trauma-informed and high conscious leadership.      Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com! In this podcast episode, we explore trauma-informed leadership While writing her book, Kelly Campbell reached out to Curt and Katie to connect with a previous interviewee, Dr. Sidney Stone -Brown. We loved that she is talking about trauma-informed leadership, so we invited her to come on the podcast to talk with us about it.     What is trauma-informed leadership coaching? ·      Recognizing that past traumas can impact how someone leads a group ·      Identifying impacts of trauma on a client's ability to perform the tasks of leadership ·      Working to shift dynamics within leaders (and their teams) based on impacts of past trauma What are the common impacts of trauma on leaders and their leadership skills? ·      People-controlling behaviors (like micromanagement) ·      People-pleasing behaviors (like not holding people accountable) ·      Lack of trust ·      Impostor Syndrome ·      Attrition of employees ·      Lower profitability (as a lagging indicator) What is the goal for trauma-informed leadership? ·      High conscious leaders ·      Vulnerability and trust ·      Healing the impacts of trauma on the workplace ·      Refraining from people-controlling or people-pleasing behaviors ·      Modeling a new way of being to shift the company culture ·      Self-advocacy, clear boundaries, and improved communication Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist's Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/

On this episode I have the pleasure of speaking with Kelly Campbell who is a trauma-informed leadership coach, speaker, facilitator, writer, and author. She also leads Consciousness Leaders—the world's most diverse and equitable speakers' agency. Kelly grew up in a home that, as she describes it, was more challenging than most. She tells us that even though she strived to be the perfect daughter by excelling at academics, sports, and other endeavors, she did not feel loved and, in fact, felt that she was “unlovable”. She will take us on her journey of learning how to accept the traumatic issues she faced and eventually learned how not only to articulate what happened to her, but also how she learned to recognize that she could learn to love herself.   Today, among other things, Kelly coaches leaders on how to better their lives by recognizing the traumas they face and have faced. As she tells us, most all of us have faced traumas whether we choose to recognize it or not. We learn the value of addressing issues and becoming better leaders and people at home, at work and throughout our entire life.   About the Guest:   Kelly L. Campbell (they/she) inspires revelation and responsibility in leaders across the globe. As a trauma-informed leadership coach, speaker, facilitator, writer, and author, they empower self-aware visionaries to correlate their past wounds to their leadership style, transforming the way they lead, live, and love. Her debut book, Heal to Lead: Revolutionizing Leadership through Trauma Healing (Wiley) will be released in April 2024.   They write for Entrepreneur, have written for Forbes, and offer exclusive content to their Substack community, “The New TLC: Trauma, Leadership, and Consciousness.” Early in their career, Kelly was the founder and CEO of a cause marketing agency and sold it in 2016, which led her to advise Fortune 50 corporations, non-profits, government organizations, and marketing and advertising agencies. They have hosted two top-rated podcasts since 2006—one on holistic health and wellness and the other on conscious leadership for marketing and advertising agency leaders.   A long-time conservationist, Kelly was trained by Al Gore as a Climate Reality Leader in 2017. Most recently, they became certified as a Reiki Level III Practitioner. Kelly's vision is to empower more than half of humanity to heal its childhood trauma so that we may reimagine and rebuild the world together.   ** ** Ways to connect with Kelly:   Book Pre-Order: https://klcampbell.com/heal-to-lead-book/  Website: https://klcampbell.com/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kelly.l.campbell  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellylcampbell/  Substack: https://kellylcampbell.substack.com/  Leadership Quiz: https://klcampbell.com/leadership/  Healing Resources: https://myhealingmenu.com       About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog.   Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards.   https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/   accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/   https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/       Thanks for listening!   Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below!   Subscribe to the podcast   If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can also subscribe in your favorite podcast app.   Leave us an Apple Podcasts review   Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts. Transcription Note: Michael Hingson ** 00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:20 Well, hi, everyone, welcome to unstoppable mindset wherever you happen to be in the world. We're glad you're here. Today we get to have a conversation with Kelly Campbell. And I got to tell you a little bit about my history with Kelly, there is a history isn't that something anyway, I last year was beginning to seek out speaking opportunities and discovered Kelly's consciousness leaders, speaker's bureau and technology and company that helped speakers find opportunities and wrote to her, and along the way learned from her executive assistant that excessively had sponsored her podcast in 2022. And of course, AccessiBe is the the organization behind what we do here. So there was some great synergy and we well, she agreed to represent us and in the speaking world. And also, of course, I had to say, Kelly, you got to come on the podcast, and it only took six months to get around. But here it is. And Kelly, we're really glad you're on unstoppable mindset after that story. And thanks very much for being here.   Kelly Campbell ** 02:30 Michael, it is my absolute pleasure. Yeah, synergy is the word there was so much synergy when we first met. So I'm glad to be working together in lots of different ways.   Michael Hingson ** 02:38 Yeah, you gotta keep that going. It'll be a lot of fun. Well, tell us a little bit about kind of the early Kelly growing up and all that sort   Michael Hingson ** 02:45 of stuff. Oh, the early Kelly,   Michael Hingson ** 02:48 I know it doesn't that make it fun?   Kelly Campbell ** 02:49 Well, you know, listen, none of us had perfect childhoods. Mine was just a little more imperfect than most. And so, you know, the way that I grew up, I, I, you know, grew up with a mother who had basically, comorbidity conditions of borderline personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder. And I didn't know any of those words when I was a kid, right. And my dad ended up leaving, they kind of got an unofficially separated, I guess you call it when I was about nine. And so he was sort of my protector in the house. And so when he left, it was like my heartbeat. hypervigilance went on overdrive. And I think for many, many years, I would say even decades, it took me a long time to figure out how to how to get out of that nervous system dysregulation. And again, I don't have any of these words or any of this understanding for a very long time. So   Michael Hingson ** 03:54 that's usually what you know what happens kids know something's going on, but can't really describe it or articulate it.   Kelly Campbell ** 04:03 Yeah, yeah. So I knew something was off. I knew I had to protect myself, and in some ways, and I think I did a pretty good job of that. But what I also came to understand was the ways in which I was in the world, meaning, you know, in academics or in my social settings in my athletic career, I was, you know, trying to become this perfect persona, you know, in every single way. And it was really at the heart of it. It was I didn't understand that there was a disconnect between her ability to love me, I thought it was if I just did this thing more perfectly if I just got these straight A's and was captain of all these sports teams and got a full ride to college and she wouldn't be proud and she would she would love me. And she didn't have the tools to do that. But so I took that to mean that I was unlovable. All right. So I know the title of your podcast is unstoppable, unstoppable mindset, but I felt unlovable. And so I didn't feel very unstoppable. And so creating, you know, I tried a little dip of the toe in the water of corporate America right after college and that that didn't work for me. Immediately I created, you know, an organization, I started a digital marketing agency that focused on nonprofits and foundations and social impact initiatives. I was an avid conservationist and really was an advocate for the environment, and you know, all the things that we can do ourselves. And so I took all of that passion and all of that and created this agency. And so I had this digital marketing agency for about 14 years, I ended up selling it in 2016. And, you know, yeah, that was that was about eight years ago. And now I've been a consultant to Facebook and NASA. I have been, essentially a trauma informed leadership coach for the last few years. And I get to work with leaders in all different sectors on really what I did, which was correlating their childhood trauma, with their leadership style, the way that they show up in leadership leadership position today.   Michael Hingson ** 06:33 Well, you know, a question that comes to mind is, okay, so you had the situation that you had as a child, and you worked really hard to be loved. And as you pointed out, your mother didn't have the tools? Well, so before I ask the question, I'm really thinking of, did that ever change? Has it ever changed with her? Or is it kind of just No, you know, she,   Kelly Campbell ** 06:57 she said, I write about this in the book, which I know will touch upon, she sort of, I'll call it she opted out of my life when I was about four. And so I have not had any contact with her in 20 years.   Michael Hingson ** 07:11 Okay, so the question that I really was thinking of is, so all of that happened. But you I gather really did Excel, and you were the captain of teams, you've got great grades and so on. So as you look back on an even though what occurred, did happen? Do you feel that you feel positive? Or do you feel that all that was, in a sense, now worth it now that you can look back on it?   Kelly Campbell ** 07:39 I think everything was worth it. I think, you know, I have a very different mindset about what it was, I think I live to be really honest, I lived for many years in the State of victimization or victimhood. And oh, you know, these things happen to me, right were imposed upon me. And I think once the, you know, I started doing the deeper inner work, that mindset started to shift. And it was like, I, I have agency, I didn't just start an agency, I actually have agency to figure out how I want to live the rest of my life. And this is not it. This is not it.   Michael Hingson ** 08:16 Yeah. And that's what I was, was getting to is that your mindset shifted? And I'm assuming that you no longer feel that you're unlovable. Oh,   Kelly Campbell ** 08:27 not at all. There you go. But I will say the difference is that not it wasn't just about my mother, right? Yeah, it was any external validation or getting that, you know, I am lovable because so and so feels this way about me or cares about me or loves right? It that the need for that has fallen away over all of these years of doing this work. And I understand now that I am lovable because I love me, right? So the only thing that matters, but it takes people and it sounds so simple, Michael, but it takes a very, very long time, most of us until mid life to figure that out. And some of us don't ever figure it out. Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 09:06 Or we figure it out even much later. And it's so unfortunate that that we have, well, we don't have the tools to figure out some of those things a lot earlier. And of course, as a child as a kid. It's it's hard to associate that and so you look to your parents, you look up to your parents, and you talked about what your father did for you and what your mother didn't do for you. But it's taken a long time to really gain the rest of the tools necessary to put a better perspective on all that. You   Kelly Campbell ** 09:41 got it. You got it. Yeah. And you know, I do have a close relationship with my father. I would love an even closer relationship with him. You know, he also and I do write about this in the book. He had his own, you know, tumultuous upbringing with physical abuse from his stepfather. Other, and I'm not sure that he ever really has integrated that or addressed that. And so I think that there's a little bit of, you know, I don't know, just a lack of understanding that there is a closeness that could happen, there's a depth to relationship that could happen if he were to go ahead and break through those things. However, as much as I want that, for him, that is not my responsibility as a child. It's, it's really up to him. And that's the thing, it's up to each one of us to determine the way that my life is going, the relate the quality of the relationships that I have, are not everything that I think that they could be, or that I hope that they could be. And so now I have to look inward and say, you know, where is my contribution to that? And how do I want that to change? How, how committed Am I to helping those changes be brought about? Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 10:58 and as I was, was thinking in going to say, the fact is that the journey continues, and so you're going to even learn more as you go forward, which can only help. That's right. It's a matter of looking for it. And most of us don't take a lot of time to be introspective and look at what we do or why we do what we do and how we do it. I'm a strong advocate for people should take time at the end of every day looking at what happened that day. And I never like to view things as a failure. I can view things as well, this didn't work. So what do I learn from that? Because I have to teach me as to how to deal with it. But the bottom line is that we, we should really take time to look at what didn't work and what worked and how can we make it even better? And what does that mean for our lives. And we mostly don't do that, oh, I don't have the time, I've got to get right to sleep, because I gotta get up in the morning. And we miss such golden opportunities to start to think about that. Yeah,   Kelly Campbell ** 11:59 yeah. And that could come in a variety of different ways, right? Are the cerebral resources that are available to us through guided meditations and podcasts and books that we might listen to or read, there are so many ways to enter this realm, you know, to just get started to just, I don't know, really get curious and start to understand that there are all of these resources available to us. And all we have to do is just pull the thread or lean into what feels resonant for us.   Michael Hingson ** 12:36 Right? Yeah, and, and then follow through on it,   Kelly Campbell ** 12:39 and then follow through on it, because it's not just about the cerebral, right, we're talking about integrating trauma, really at the heart of this. And so you can't think your way out of a feeling that is in your body and literally in your you know, stuck in your sort of your nervous system and your fascia and, you know, in your, in your physical body. So the combination of the cerebral, the mindset work, the mindfulness, and the somatic work, you know, the movement, the emotional release, there are lots and lots of healing modalities, trauma integration modalities available to us. Most people think of therapy. And that's it. That therapy is one, one out of literally millions of modalities that are available to us. Well,   Michael Hingson ** 13:27 and the other thing about therapy is people think, Oh, I'll go to therapy. And I'll get all the answers because the therapist will give me the answers. And therapists do help give you answers. And coaches help guide you to answers. But still, none of those matter if you don't do something about it once you are given opportunities or discover opportunities.   Kelly Campbell ** 13:49 Yeah, yeah. And there are a lot of people who said, Yeah, I'm doing the work, quote, unquote, I've been in therapy for 15 years, like I was, and you know, therapy is wonderful, especially if you haven't talked to anyone before about what is going on in your life and what's on your heart and things that are, you know, maybe behaviors that you're not happy with. That's a wonderful thing. Staying in that relationship, though, and continuously just talking about it, sort of, in in many cases, I won't say all cases, because there are lots of therapists who specialize in different things. But in many cases, a lot of people stay stuck in repetitive patterns. You know, and if if you really to your point, if you want to make the change, it is about committing and doing things different through other types of modalities, and some of those modalities don't rely on another person. Right. Those are things that you're doing yourself. So yeah, there's there's a lot and no healing journey looks the same. It's not linear, you know?   Michael Hingson ** 14:57 Yeah, but it isn't for any of us and you may You try something and it doesn't really work or seem to work for you. And so you don't give up, you need to try something else until you find something that works. And you also have to look at what it is you're trying to achieve and what it is that you're trying to accomplish.   Kelly Campbell ** 15:13 That's right. That's right. Because just like anything, you have to set a goal or or not even a goal so much as maybe there's some little shift. Maybe the goal is I want to feel less anxious. Maybe the goal is I want to feel more comfortable in my skin in my body. Maybe, you know, so they're not I think goal is maybe not the best word, but they are things that you are interested in changing. Modifying.   Michael Hingson ** 15:43 Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. So what is trauma? We we it's a word we hear all the time, what what really is it, we   Kelly Campbell ** 15:54 hear the word trauma every single day. Whether we're talking to a friend or scrolling on Instagram, or something like that, it has become a pretty, I don't know, just like a word of the year, I think it probably will be the word of the year for 2024. Trauma, it is derived from the Greek word for which means wound, right. But what we're talking about here is beyond that, we're not talking necessarily about physical wounds, although that could be trauma, or talking about unintegrated information. So not the events that have happened to you at some point in your life, whether that's in childhood or older, not the events themselves, but what happens inside your body because of that event, or events or prolonged scenario, right. So it could be a one time event that you experience, but what your body and your mind and your psyche are remembering in your tissues. Because it's not memory, it's Think of it like a body sensation, right? A something that is triggered in your nervous system that says this was an unsafe thing, or this was an experience that I do not want to experience again. So now I'm going to be hyper vigilant to make sure that I protect myself from not experiencing that again, right. So I say, I specify that it's not the event, not only because we know that from, you know, experts like Dr. Gabor Ma Tei and Bessel Vander Kolk. But we know that if you and I experienced the same event, it may not have been traumatic for you. And it may have been traumatic for me, right? So there's a subjectivity to this stuff. It's a lot of nuance. But at the end of the day, it's a situation where we have been feeling overwhelmed and unable to cope with a stressor. Right, and that stressor, we don't have to determine whether that is big T trauma, small t trauma, because again, there's subjectivity to it just an overwhelm, and overwhelm, and an inability to integrate the information.   Michael Hingson ** 18:19 So how does trauma intersect or become involved in dealing with leadership? What does it mean in the context of leadership?   Kelly Campbell ** 18:28 Well, I mean, leaders are humans, right? So we can't pretend that once we stepped into a leadership role, if we put a suit on or, you know, some other expression of leadership, quote, unquote, that all of the trauma and all of those experiences and all of the maladaptive behaviors that we have because of it, that they just fall away, right, we can't pretend that that happens. That doesn't happen. Because we're, we're the same person internally, whether we are showing up at work, or we're with our family, or we are at home. We just wear masks, because we don't think that we will be seen as competent. If we bring our true selves, our authentic selves, our genuine selves, the real us into those scenarios. So, you know, this is this is a huge passion of mine and has become become really my life's work is this integral, this intersection between trauma and leadership? Because no one is talking about these things. And we yet we are very aware of them. They are in our faces all the time, right in our political leaders, in our corporate leaders. We see on the news, the Elon Musk's of the world and all of these other people who clearly we know in some way, shape or form that there's something off quote unquote about them. Really the These are wounded humans, right? Elon Musk has been very vocal about some of the things that he's experienced in childhood, at, you know, really in relationship to his father and some of the abuse that he endured through his peers when he was younger. So there was a feeling of powerlessness. And I just use this example, because there are a lot of people who are familiar with him, and is the innovation in which he leads. But a lot of people are not familiar with how actually terrible he is, as a people leader. And you know, a lot of that is stems from childhood trauma, where he felt powerless, he is now projecting that I will never feel that powerless again, I will be the richest and most powerful man in the world. He said that when he was eight years old, and boy, has that come true.   Michael Hingson ** 20:58 Yeah. The other side of it, though, is that if he did take a different tact in terms of how he dealt with people, how much I hate to use the word but more powerful, or more influential, he would really be? Well,   Kelly Campbell ** 21:15 I hear that. And I would just build on that to say, how much more positive impact could he make? Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 21:24 that's why I changed it from powerful to influential because, yeah, I think that's more relevant, having a more powerful impact. We'll look at Steve Jobs. And I don't know as much about Steve Jobs. A lot of people were very loyal to him in the company. And he did a lot. And I just keep thinking, if he had lived 10 more years, what would it have been like in the world? Yeah.   Kelly Campbell ** 21:48 Yeah. It's a good question. Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 21:51 And it's, it's one of those, well, we're not gonna get that answer. So we'll just have to not worry about it, I guess, or or we can think about it. But how do we all move forward is really the issue. But you know, a question that I love to ask. We've been talking about leadership a little bit. What is a leader?   Kelly Campbell ** 22:10 Hmm, that's a great cry. No, it's   Michael Hingson ** 22:13 a fun question. I love to get different answers. And you know, there's not necessarily a real right answer, but it's a fair question.   Kelly Campbell ** 22:20 Yeah. It is a fair question. I love this question. My favorite definition of a leader, and I'll paraphrase this, it's not mine. It's comes from Brene. Brown, it's really, you know, someone who sees the potential in other people, and has the courage to develop that potential. Yeah. It feels to me like, you know, what we thought about or what we understood as leadership over the last 200 years is not what we actually would like to think of as leadership. Right. It's not an authoritarian, it's not someone who has all the answers and leads us into battle. And you know, all of that. It is someone who is there to create more leaders, not more followers of them. You are not going to get that answer from a lot of people. But that's what I believe. Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 23:17 And I think that the definition is a great one. And would that more people would see it, because bosses are not by any definition, necessarily leaders at all? Not at   Kelly Campbell ** 23:29 all. Not at all. They're just wounded children in a way, if you think about it, right. I mean, think about trauma, what its impact is you asked me before, what is its impact on leadership? If we have a traumatic experience, right, we experienced trauma at let's say, nine years old, we are ultimately stunted at nine years old if we don't integrate that experience. So we have a lot of nine year olds, running companies. I was one of them, which is why I can say that, you know, the day they the introduction of the book is this woman had asked me it was consultant that I had hired. And she said, What was the I want you to close your eyes? And what was the first moment that you remember stepping into a leadership role? And the introduction of the book became, you know, or was born out of the answer to that question? And the answer was, I literally thought of the day that my I was nine years old, sitting in the back seat of my family car, a Crown Victoria, I'll never forget it. And my brother, who's about a year younger than me, was sitting next to me and my mother was taking us to the movie theater. But before we went into the movie theater, she turned around and said, Oh, I just want to let your kids know. Your father is not going to be living with us anymore. And this was the moment that I remembered when this woman asked me what was the first moment you you remember stepping into a leadership role? Because I As blown out as I was by this news, and scared and confused and had all these questions and no support, I, in that moment turned to my brother. Right and put my hand on his back. And for me, it was supporting him and comforting him, and sort of letting him know that he was not alone in this. Right. And it's a weird memory to come up for that kind of question. But for a long time prior to me doing any of this healing work and trauma integration work on myself, I was that nine year old kid running that company. So, you know, to me, it's like, do we want more nine year olds running companies? Or do we want centered, fully embodied healing actively healing humans running companies and organizations? Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 25:55 And you, you've evolved from being that nine year old child along the way, which is, of course, a great thing. Yeah. Which is, which is what you needed to do? Yeah.   Kelly Campbell ** 26:07 It's taken a lot of work. And that's the thing, this is a lifelong commitment. Right? This isn't a single Ayahuasca retreat, or just therapy for a few years. That's not what this is about. This is a lifelong commitment to, you know, really understanding who you are, what behaviors you would like to change, how you want to show up in the world. How you want to lead in whatever way that means whether that's in your your family system, at work, in your social group, maybe you have a religious affiliation, leadership comes in all different flavors and sizes, right? But it's figuring that out. And then understanding as part of that healing journey in that process. What you are here to contribute in the world, because this isn't about you. You, the more you learn about yourself, the less your ego is online, which is kind of a interesting oxymoron there. But yeah, it's more about what you what is your purpose? What are you here to contribute in the world? Because you understand through the healing journey that this is so much bigger than you so much bigger?   Michael Hingson ** 27:21 So following up on that and kind of continuing in since healing is a lifelong commitment. What's in it for leaders? Well, since we always seem to want to do things our way, so what's in it for me? What's in it? For me? Yeah,   Kelly Campbell ** 27:38 well, I will answer the question. But my initial reaction as a trauma informed leadership coach is think about, you know, if there's a leader who has that sort of that question, right? They're sort of being provocative. Well, what's in it for me? Why should I do any of this healing stuff? It sounds terrible takes a lifetime. You know, it's it has nothing to do with my legacy? Well, my question to that person would be well think about what your life is like right now. And if we were to fast forward five years from now, and life is exactly the same way you're feeling the level of overwhelm anxiety, you're biting at people that you don't even know, maybe there's like, some anger going on in your body, you tend to micromanage people, your relationships aren't exactly what you would love them to be. If we fast forward five years from now, and life was exactly like that, would you be okay with that? Right. And really, when we're getting real, is this current thing called life working for you? As is? Yeah, that would be my question. But I like to, I like to stoke the fire a little bit. But what's in it for people is some of the things that I alluded to better, closer, deeper, more meaningful relationships, not just that work, not just that home, not just with friends, I'm talking about all of them, because you will show up differently, right. If you own an organization or are in leadership of an organization, a workplace, the bottom line will actually see the impact of this in a positive way. Because the people who you are leading will trust you more, will respect you more will be more loyal. So you'll have less employee attrition, maybe even less client attrition or customer attrition, right? People want to follow and emulate those who have, you know, aligned values. I mean, access to be as a great example of that, right? There's so much in it. And it's not just about the business or just about the personal it's everything. You're also probably going to find that you develop a passion or reignite or rekindle a passion for some of the things that you were really excited about when you were a kid, maybe you love loved nature. Maybe you love to play an instrument, whatever, whatever the thing was, there's more joy and more passion and more fulfillment in your life by doing this work. I don't know, you know, that sounds like no big deal to me, you know, it's just life changing. There's so much available to us. And it's only possible once we do this work, well.   Michael Hingson ** 30:30 While I was in college, I did radio and loved it. I was in radio, the campus for six and a half years and had a lot of fun doing it and, and never thought I'd be back doing something is part of my life relating to that. And four years ago, I would never have thought of being the host of a podcast. But in 2021, when I joined excessively, they asked if I would do it, and here we are. And it's really doing very well, a lot of people seem to really like it. And we're having a lot of fun. And for me personally, I get to learn a lot. And I think that's the the most important thing for me is I get to learn a lot. I've, I've changed my mindset on things over the past two and a half years. And as I as I tell people, whenever we do these podcasts, there's only one hard and fast rule. And that is we both have to have fun.   Kelly Campbell ** 31:23 Yeah, yeah. And we're doing that. I'm glad that you brought that up. Because this idea of being a lifelong learner and being curious about the world. That's a little throwback to what I was talking about in childhood, right? If you if you look at a two year old, a five year old, a seven year old, a nine year old, they're, you know, everything is, in all everything is one dress, right? There's so much exploration, experimentation, and then we are taught little by little inadvertently, and then sometimes very explicitly, that that is not something that we can continue with, right? We might be able to do it for a few years when we're toddlers. But like, now, you've got to get serious. I there's people who ask, you know, five year old, what do you want to be when you grow up? Right? It's like, I don't have to make that decision. I just want to be a kid right now. So um, yeah, it's just like that, that level of curiosity and being a lifelong learner, being able to change your mindset, as opposed to having a fixed mindset and thinking very narrowly or thinking from a binary perspective. That, to me is one of the greatest gifts of healing as a leader.   Michael Hingson ** 32:35 And we really shouldn't be discouraged from being curious. And it happens. So often, I know I've been to museums and other places where I'll reach out and touch something that we're passing, and somebody say, you can't touch that you can't do this, you can't do that. Why not? The reality is, I can appreciate not everyone going to a museum should be allowed to touch art, because too many hands with oil can can have an effect on it. But allowing a blind person who's not going to see it any other way to touch it shouldn't be a problem. And allowing other people to be curious in their own way shouldn't be a problem. But it's all too often something we discourage. And as people grow older, when you get as you point out out of being a toddler, you're starting to be taught not to be curious. I've seen so many examples where I've been somewhere and somebody wants to either pet my dog or ask me a question about being blind, a child and their parents out, don't do that. It's impolite. It's not, you know? I try to well whenever I can. And, and like one of my philosophies, and one of my policies is if a child wants to pet my guide dog, and I hear the child asking the parent is, oh, no, that dog might bite and so on, I will stop, I'll take the harness off, because that's alimos cue that he's no longer working. And I will say, go ahead, you can pet the dog, he's very friendly. I just hope you're not holding an ice cream cone. But I will always do that. And with adults. Mostly the same thing. If an adult wants to pet the dog. If I have time, I will again stop and take the harness off. And I'll say I'm taking the harness off, because now he knows he's not working. And there have been a few times that someone has wanted to pet the dog. And I said, Look, I've got to go, I don't have the time right now I would love to but I just don't have the time. And they pet the dog anyway. And of course I know that because the dog turns and looks and wants to visit more because dogs love that. And I have to give the dog a correction because they shouldn't be responding to the person and the correction is just a slight tug on the leash. And I remember one case where a woman did it and she said, Oh, don't don't punish the dog. I was the one that was petting the dog and I said no, you don't understand. The dog shouldn't have reacted. I'm gonna deal with the dog and then I'll deal with you because I had already said no, I don't have time.   Kelly Campbell ** 34:57 Children. Yeah, I was just gonna say she wasn't respecting your boundaries, or the dog's boundaries in that case, right,   Michael Hingson ** 35:02 right. With children, Allah, we stopped because I don't want them to be afraid. And I want to give them the opportunity to ask questions. And I realize, well, I have a teaching mentality anyway. And I believe that my job is whenever I can to teach, and I love to do it with adults, too. It's so much fun.   Kelly Campbell ** 35:23 Yeah, I want to go back to the boundary thing, oh, man, because it just sparked something in me, you know, part of doing healing work is not taking things so personally, so that when someone does, you know, enact a boundary, you respect it, and you respect it genuinely. Right. And you also on the flip side of that, have the ability to not sort of fall into that people pleasing tendency, and you can more easily, you know, state what your boundaries are, in a very, you know, loving and respectful way. Yeah. And so I think that respecting people's boundaries, and then being able to talk about your own and express your own, that's another benefit. You know, as we're talking, it's like, we could talk, we can have a whole podcast just talking about benefits of healing. Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 36:15 Maybe we should, maybe we should. But yeah, there's, there's a lot to be said, for boundaries. And I, I fear in our society, we're losing the concept of boundaries, that there are so many things that are happening, we talk about politicians and others, and so on, who seem not to have any respect for boundaries, and we're losing the art of conversation, people won't talk or allow themselves to be involved in talking about them and being involved in such discussions.   Kelly Campbell ** 36:46 I mean, that's a shame. You know, boundaries are really important, or kind. I love boundaries, boundaries also help with conversations about consent, right? I mean, all of these things are intertwined. And so the more that we heal, the more that we understand what we're comfortable with what we will accept, from the people in our lives, the things that we will not accept, and then we understand we grow and we learn new language around that. It's beautiful. It's actually well,   Michael Hingson ** 37:17 now my cat doesn't have any respect for boundaries.   Kelly Campbell ** 37:21 Well, we can't help the cats.   Michael Hingson ** 37:24 But my dog does. He really clearly respects boundaries. And I would hope that I understand his. But we have a great synergistic relationship, in reality I do with the cat as well. But she's, she's a fun kitty. She's 14 and a rescue cat, and a lot of fun. So it works well. But boundaries are something that we're just losing the art of understanding, you know, people say we shouldn't talk about politics and all that. And I keep thinking, why not? Why don't we have enough boundaries and enough respect for others that we, we can't discuss things where maybe we disagree, there's nothing wrong with disagreement, we should be able to discuss it, good teams learn to disagree. And and the point of have a good relationship in a team is that team members can very well disagree, and they know that their views will be respected by the other members of the team, so they can do it. But in general, we just don't see that. But that   Kelly Campbell ** 38:30 comes from the top. Right. So if you know there's discourse, that means that there's trust, trust is not at the top, meaning we're that we are looking up at the leader. If that trust is not there, then we are not going to feel on the team, the ability to trust one another. So it's very much like a modeling, right? And so leaders who are vulnerable leaders who say, I don't have all the answers, I actually need your help to run this organization or finish this project, or whatever it is. And then you mentioned team in the case of maybe personal relationships, you know, a team could be just two partners, a team could be a family, right? And so yeah, it all of this transcends and is so interconnected between all of these types of relationships. But yeah, I think, trust and discourse, right and not avoiding conflict, you can't have any of those things which are beautiful things, you know, to understand someone else's perspective and give them the space to express their perspective and be able to say, You know what, I can hear what you're saying, and I still have my beliefs. We made like the purpose of this discourse is not to necessarily change each other's mind, or to be on the same page. But it's just to understand a little bit more about like, underlying Lee, what are your values? What are my values? And yeah, I think that, you know, part of this is we get so rigid and so tight when we haven't addressed what's underneath all of this, you know? So yeah, I love being able to have conversations about politics or, you know, with the people. And this is where you have to be discerning, it's with the people who can hold that both and thinking, you know, and aren't such on a binary track. So you have to be discerning about that. Because you you want to keep, you know, put yourself in situations where you also feel a sense of safety.   Michael Hingson ** 40:42 Yeah. But the other part about team relationships, say within a corporation is the ultimate goal of discussions and controversy. Well, controversy or disagreement, is to eventually come to some sort of consensus and doesn't necessarily mean that one or either of us like, the decision, but we come to a decision that we can live with, until or unless it doesn't work. And then if it doesn't work, then we say, okay, it's nobody's fault. We, we decided we all did it together. Let's figure out where we go from here. And one of my favorite books is The Five Dysfunctions of a Team by Patrick Lencioni. I don't know if you've never read that. It's a great book. I have not, but I Well, it's it's a fairly short book. But it's a great book that talks about teamwork. And the basic premise is, as you point out trust, one of the things that I love to tell people is that I have learned a lot more about teamwork and team development, and trust, from working with eight guide dogs that I've ever learned from all the experts in the world on it, because when I'm working with a guide, dog, and I make no mistake, it is an absolute teaming relationship. When I work with a guide dog, we are truly developing a team, we each have a job to do. And part of my job is supposed to be the team leader, but also as the team leader. And this is something I was going to bring up a leader no needs to know when to give up leadership to somebody else be on the team, because they may be able to handle a particular situation well, and better than you. And you sort of alluded to that. And that's true with a guide dog. If we're walking down a sidewalk and we get to a curb, the dog stops, because the job of the guide dog is to make sure that I walk safely not to know where to go and how to get there. That's my job. And the dog trusts need to know that. And if I convey that, I don't know that the dogs gonna get worried. So it makes me feel more obligated in advance whenever we're going to be somewhere to learn how to go where I need to go, now I can still get lost. But I know that when that happens, and I get confused, I can't panic, because that's going to make the dog uncomfortable. But as I was going to say, when we get to a street corner and the dog stops, and then I say forward, and we start across the street, and suddenly the dog jerks back, I'm not going to question what that dog is doing. I'm gonna follow that dog. Partly it's a survival thing. But also partly, that's the dog's job. And what it usually is as a hybrid vehicles coming that I didn't hear. So the dog will still go back. And I'm going to follow that dog and I'm going to tell that dog what a great job it was doing. Likewise, going down the stairs at the World Trade Center was the same sort of thing. I needed to keep the dog confident and focused. So it was ongoing constant praise, which was also sending a message to the dog. I'm okay. And it didn't matter what I was thinking inside. That's what I needed to do to help my teammate be able to function well. Yeah. Yeah.   Kelly Campbell ** 44:02 Thank you for for a sharing that story. I know you've shared it many times, but I just just hearing it and kind of in this, this little conversation. I appreciate it. And it it really speaks to that relationship, that trust and also the fact that as a leader, you will not always have the right answer or know what to do next. Right, right. The there's something since we're on the the theme of dogs and cats and there is something that I put into the prologue of the book related to geese, Canada geese. And the reason why I did that was because my grandmother loved loved the more than anyone I've ever known. Loved Canada geese specifically because they fly in a V formation. And the reason why I the reason behind the flying in a V formation. So many people don't know this. But when they fly into V formation, the leader quote unquote, who is at the top of the V. V, right? That is the most rested goose, right. So the one who has essentially moved all the way to the back, has rested for the longest period of time then flies past every one of the other ones and takes the leadership position. And they do that because they are the most rested. And what I love about that is if we started thinking about trusting the the leader who is the most rested, right, that the relationship between trust and rest. If that was part of the way that we think about leadership, boy, would that be a different? Yeah, we would live in, right. So it speaks to like regenerative leadership and you know, trusting someone who is maybe in a better physical scenario than you, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's fascinating how we've gotten so off course, with what we think of as a leader or a good leader, versus what you know, the definition should really be. I   Michael Hingson ** 46:23 wonder how it is that the geese know who the most rested is?   Kelly Campbell ** 46:28 Well, just based on where they are in the formation, so the one at the very back has fallen back from the leadership position with that they were in at one point, and they also in time, well, every time a new one comes to the front, they basically take the next position back, right. And so there, by the time they get to the very tail of the V formation, that's the one who has benefited from that aerodynamic, you know, situation,   Michael Hingson ** 46:56 and they track it. So they they know. Yeah, and that's, that's the point. So did your grandmother ever get to visit with any of the Canadian geese? Um,   Kelly Campbell ** 47:05 my grandmother, she loves Canada geese so much that she actually had had requested that we had a flock of geese in a V formation engraved on her headstone. I mean, that's what she loved them. And for me, it was more about this idea of innate leadership that she really I sort of digested from her or I don't know, maybe it's through osmosis. Because she was, she was like the matriarch of our family. And was not the one that was the most vocal was not the one that didn't ask for help. She led in in a way that really was real and human and vulnerable and just beautiful. She was She She created a lot of trust within our family. For each of the grandchildren, you know, I kind of joke around that she made each and every one of us feel like we were her favorite. So yeah, I just I have such fond memories of that. So that's why I started the book with that. When   Michael Hingson ** 48:12 we moved to Northern California back in 2002. There was a flock of ducks. Well, before we moved in our there was a contractor who did work to make the house wheelchair accessible for my wife. And he warned us that there were ducks. And he said, he made the mistake of giving a piece of a donut to one of them. And he said every day, they would come up to the door. And if I didn't have doughnuts for them, they'd go for the throat. So we we got to visit with the ducks. And then one day I was out feeding the ducks. And we brought we bought what I call duck bread. We bought white bread from Costco, and they loved it. And while I was out feeding the ducks one day sitting on our back patio, and this bigger beak came into the mix. And I called Karen, who came on and said it's a goose and it was an American greylag goose who had been living in that community for a while. I don't know whether he thought he was a duck. But he and the ducks got along and he loved to come up and get fed as well. And like to get petted. It was a you know, I knew that goose generally were a little bit touchy about that, but not silver. He loved it.   Kelly Campbell ** 49:22 That's great. I love it. I love it. You have so much nature in your life was a lot of fun.   Michael Hingson ** 49:26 And eventually he died. He was like 18 when we knew him and oh, wow, we I don't know how much longer he lived but one day he wasn't there anymore. So what are some? What are some self care strategies that leaders can use when you're trying to deal with this long term commitment to heal?   Kelly Campbell ** 49:46 Well, I think you're illustrating one really nicely in in some of these stories, which is connection to nature, right getting out in nature. If you have pets, you know, sometimes self care Looks like going for a walk with your dog or petting your cat. Even taking care of your plants, right? I know these things sound really simple, but I think a lot of people think about self care as only, you know, maybe going to the gym or getting a massage or some people think about self care as having a glass of wine after work. Those things, in many ways, sort of, you can think about them like superficial self care. And that's sort of a bifurcation that I make in the book. You know, when we're talking about really integrating trauma, we're doing deep, pretty profound work, where there can be emotions that come up, anger, sadness, grief, rage, you know, things that we didn't maybe express when we were younger, there's a lot to deal with. So real self care strategies is, you know, maybe things like enacting boundaries, if you've got friends that want to go out and you feel like you just don't have the capacity for that. Maybe it's saying, you know, thank you for the invitation, I'm actually going to take care of myself, tonight, I'm going to prioritize my mental well being or my physical well being. So it's resting for sure, it's probably at the top of my list is getting more rest, because so many of us do not get rest. Sure, we might sleep at night for a few hours or even 678 hours. But that sleep, rest is a little different. So rest could be like taking naps or things like that. prioritizing our ourselves in terms of those boundaries. I mean, there are so many different things that you can employ, but they have to feel good for you. Right? And, you know, again, really thinking about this, this distinction between what is superficial, right? And what is actual self care, right? taking time for yourself, maybe if you're, I don't know, doing some project, maybe building in some rest periods, so that you're not just grinding through it. We're in such a hustle culture. And we normalize that. And we think that it's a positive thing, because we're getting rewarded from the by that we get rewarded with promotions and all these other things when we overwork. Well, we get overstimulated. We get Yeah, we get bonuses and promotions for it. But at what cost? Right, taking care of ourselves is more about Yeah, just having an awareness of what do I actually need? What capacity? Do I actually have to get this thing done? Or to say yes to this? Is this something that I should be saying no to. So it's more of that in that realm. And of course, there are, you know, probably dozens of other things that we can kind of put into the real self care bucket. But I think it's in that realm, and I would put rest at the top, where   Michael Hingson ** 53:06 should leaders, I think we've touched on this, but actually begin if they want to start down this path of healing.   Kelly Campbell ** 53:16 There are a lot of places to start. I mean, again, if you've never spoken with anyone before, I think therapy is a wonderful place to start, it may not be the thing that will get you to trauma integration, but it's a great mental health maintenance protocol. And it's a great entryway into healing. If you want to learn a little bit more about where you're sitting on the spectrum of, you know, being a conscious leader, like high conscious leader, low conscious leader, evolving leader, and what all of that kind of means, I do have a leadership quiz. So it's essentially answering 20 Different if statements and seeing how true those feel to you, though that quiz is on my website, it's free. If you want to get the full report, quote, unquote, or the full assessment, you would just have to put your email address in at the end. But that's at k l campbell.com. Forward slash leadership.   Michael Hingson ** 54:17 Cool. Well, we'll have to go go check out the quiz non curious, which is fair. Well, you know, you talked earlier about people pleasing. And I, I realized that can be a real problem and a real challenge. So I thought I'd just do this because I don't want to make anyone unhappy. And that, again, that's not dealing with boundaries very well, including your own. So what are some things that people can do to stop just being a people pleasing leader or a people pleaser?   Kelly Campbell ** 54:48 Well, it's not going to come by just stopping it right? Like it's not going to come from a mental shift of I, you know, I'm going to stop doing this. It really you have to understand and start doing to work on the underlying causes and conditions as to why you are in that people pleasing mode, and most of the time that comes from us not feeling like we're worthy, or we're valuable unless we say yes to these things, or, you know, God, God forbid, if we, you know, create conflict. Or if we say no, or we push back on something, this person may not like me, I may not get this promotion, right. So there's all these stories that get created. So I think it's about really going under the hood and figuring out where does that come from, you know, sort of unpacking that for yourself, and then deciding, okay, I want to have more control over my schedule, I want to have more control over my life, I want to do pursue the things that I want to pursue. And in order to do that, I've got to say no, to certain things. So yeah, it's it's really about extending a little bit of self exploration, determining what you want to change in those realms, and then doing some of the work on yourself. And it's through that work, that you get to the point where you're like, you know, what, I am worthy, and valuable. And all of that, simply for who I am, I don't need to prove that by saying yes to all of these things by taking on all of this responsibility that I actually don't have capacity for. So it's a much longer answer than you're looking for. But that's the reality of it. It's not just oh, I'm not going to people, please anymore. So you know, because the reality is, you could give people tools and tactics all day long. But if you're not addressing, or they're not addressing the underlying causes, it's just not going to be effective. Actually,   Michael Hingson ** 56:45 more was like the answer I was looking for. Because I know it's not a simple thing to do. There. But you know, at work, there are a lot of people who keep saying, You're not doing enough, you didn't do this, you got to do that. How do you push back on that if you're at work or or in any part of your life, to say, wait a minute, I'm really doing the best that I can and get people to accept that? Well,   Kelly Campbell ** 57:10 this is about boundaries, right? is at the end of the day, you cannot control what other people think about you, or how they talk about you or what their perception is, you have to be really comfortable with your own decisions. Yeah, and setting those boundaries from a place I as I said before, of like compassion and kindness and just you know, being loving, but you're, what you're doing is you're being loving to yourself, at the same time that you're actually being loving to them, they may not interpret it that way, they may not receive it that way. But the more you take care of you, the more you can actually give in other realms. So how do you do it and you know, if people are pushing back, you know, there are lots of ways to be able to get them to see, you know, this is what I've done. This is what I'm able to do, right? So for will give a concrete example, you're at work your boss asks you to take on this project that you have absolutely no capacity for. So you could say something like, I'm happy to help with that project, I have this other project that you've given me that I'm fully dedicated to which one takes priority, because I can't do both. So which one would you like me to work on starting today? And potentially push off? You know, so we're gonna have to talk about the timeframe in which those things are completed. Right. So it's more of a conversation. It's more of a collaborative, as opposed to just saying yes, and then not letting anyone know that you're working until one o'clock in the morning, not getting enough sleep, it's impacting your health, etc, etc. You know where this goes? Yeah, I would say the majority of people function like that. And I would say that function is probably not what they're doing.   Michael Hingson ** 59:00 Yeah. And they're totally missing the opportunity to be better performers. And if the people they're working with won't develop some respect for that, then they're contributing to a lack of productivity. Got it? Yeah. I remember one of my first jobs was not in sales. But I was called into the office of the VP of Marketing one day and said, We're laying you off. And I said, why? And he said, Well, you've done a great job of things that you were doing, but we've hired too many non revenue producing people. And we have to change that. So we're laying you off. And then he paused, he said, unless you're willing to go into sales. And we don't want you to sell the product that you were working with, which was mainly a reading machine for blind people, but rather the commercial version of it. And my immediate response was, I don't know anything about sales. I've never sold professionally and his response was, we'll make sure you get all the tools you need. We're going to send you to a Dale Carnegie sales course and sell One. And as he talked, I realized, they're asking me to do a really significant thing. And he's giving me an opportunity to stay. Why would I refuse. And I've been in sales ever since, of course, what I realized later is, we're every one of us is always in sales one way or another, but it, I can, I can trace being in the world trade center back to that choice actually being in sales a long time ago. But that, you know, and I think a lot of us if we really think about it, can trace where we are back to choices that we've made. And that's a valuable lesson to give us an opportunity to learn from.   Kelly Campbell ** 1:00:37 Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And seeing it for that, you know, seeing it as those those choice points and those opportunities that we could have taken one path, and we took a different path. And just knowing that that was probably what we were meant to do.   Michael Hingson ** 1:00:53 So tell us about the book is not it's not that we haven't been talking about it. But tell us about the book,   Kelly Campbell ** 1:00:57 I've been talking about it a little bit here and there. So the book is really a wake up call. We as a society, and as leaders can't keep going the way that we're going. And so, you know, between the mental health stigma, and the idea that we cannot talk about our humanity and our trauma, at work, and I don't mean trauma, dumping, I just mean, who we are, and how our past has impacted our present. Men, many people really wouldn't touch this stuff and won't touch the stuff and haven't touch the stuff with a 10 foot pole. Because we're so afraid to face the truth of who we are, or we're afraid of what we might find out. And I think that we're at a choice point, we're at a critical impasse here, where if we don't start waking up, and we don't start taking responsibility for ourselves, our reactions, our behaviors, all of that. remedying our disconnection from this planet that we live on, right, understanding what we're here to contribute in the world. And not thinking that life is some individualistic journey, right? Because that's not what it's about. Really, this book is a wake up call for leaders to say, You know what, there has to be a better way to be in the world. And then I think I have to go inward. And here are the ways in which I'm going to do that. I do share a number of very personable personal vulnerable stories, just to kind of model that vulnerability, and give you a sense of like, what that trauma looked like for me as a leader. Alright, how the impact of trauma impacted me as a leader. And all of it is framed around this idea of, if we are going to move forward in a direction where everyone you know, feels seen, heard, valued, respected, appreciated, et cetera, safe. We want to live in a world that is inclusive and equitable and revered nature for what it is. Then I frame this as the four fundamentals of what we call high conscious leadership. And so trauma integration is the first fundamental. And then we have embodying vulnerability, and then leading with compassion. And the fourth one is lighting the way which is really again, much something I mentioned earlier, leading the way is about creating more leaders, not more followers. So that's a little bit of an encapsulation of what healed to lead us. So it's healed to lead, revolutionising leadership through trauma healing.   Michael Hingson ** 1:03:46 And when will the book be out?   Kelly Campbell ** 1:03:48 The book will be out April 16th. Cool.   Michael Hingson ** 1:03:52 Well, anxious to to get it. Do you know if there'll be an audio version? I   Kelly Campbell ** 1:03:59 don't know yet. I have a sneaking suspicion that there will be but not initially. So initially, it'll just be digital. And so Kindle and hardcover, eventually, I'm assuming that there'll be an audible version. And probably a paperback at some point in the future.   Michael Hingson ** 1:04:17 Yeah, usually, the hardcover eventually goes to paperback, if it sounds at all, and it will, then that usually does happen. Well, even the Kindle version will have to try to hunt it down. I'm working on a new book that will be out later this year. It's called Live like a guide dog. And it's all about learning to control fear. And what it's not is saying don't be afraid it is saying instead, you can learn that fear doesn't need to overwhelm you. So that's gonna be out in August. That'll   Kelly Campbell ** 1:04:41 be I love that. Congratulations on that. And I   Michael Hingson ** 1:04:45 just learned last week that it and I kind of insisted on it. Needless to say, since there are a bunch of us who are blind who are going to want to read it, there will be an audio version of it. So we push that with the publishers. That's cool.   Kelly Campbell ** 1:04:57 That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. That's wonderful. Well, I'm very excited about that for you.   Michael Hingson ** 1:05:02 Well, I want to thank you for for being here. If people want to reach out to you, how do they do that?   Kelly Campbell ** 1:05:08 My website is probably the best way you can find the book. You can find more about what I do. It's just k l campbell.com. Cool.   Michael Hingson ** 1:05:16 And they can go off and take the leadership quiz as well as your quizzes right there. Yeah. Well, thanks for being here. And I want to thank all of you wherever you are for listening today, please give us a five star rating wherever you're listening. Love those five star ratings, but we also love just getting your opinions and your thoughts. So please, contribute. If you know anyone who want to be a guest on unstoppable mindset. Kelly, you as well please let us know. And we are always looking for more people to have on to give us insights. Me being prejudiced, I get to learn a lot that way. So we love to do it. If you'd like to reach out to me feel free you can reach me at Michael M i c h a e l h i at acces

Kelly Campbell is a Trauma-Informed Leadership Coach and Conscious Leadership Consultant, guiding self-aware visionaries at the intersection of trauma, leadership, and consciousness. As the founder of Consciousness Leaders and author of "HEAL to LEAD: Revolutionizing Leadership through Trauma Healing," Kelly empowers individuals to harness their innate leadership power by transforming past trauma. They are also the founder of Consciousness Leaders, a diverse and equitable speaker's collective fostering transformative change. This episode marks the first of two with Kelly, and I'm excited for the inspiring conversation ahead. Join us as we delve into their groundbreaking work and insights.Episode Resources:Kelly's Website ThriveHealing ResourcesLeadership QuizPre-order Heal to Lead hereFollow Kelly Campbell LinkedInFollow Kelly Campbell on InstagramFollow Kelly Campbell on SubstackLink to purchase:FYLPxWRDSMTH Merch Collaboration*suggestion is to size upDownload this episode of For Your Listening Pleasure wherever you get your podcasts! Make sure you follow us on Instagram @foryourlisteningpleasure Click here to listen to the For Your Listening Pleasure Theme Song Playlist on Spotify.To continue the conversation, feel free to DM me at https://www.instagram.com/foryourlisteningpleasure/ or email me at foryourlisteningpleasure@gmail.com.

If you experience depression, your world might, at times, feel so dark, it seems no amount of light, love, or logic can break through. And if you've ever heard bad advice, or misquoted Scripture from non-understanding friends, you might also be carrying a heavy burden of shame. But depression isn't sin, laziness, nor something one can simply pray away or "positive think" their way out of. That doesn't mean, however, that the depressed individual is without hope. God wants to bring each of us to a place of increased joy, peace, and freedom. In this episode, Wholly Loved's Teresa Baumbach and Kelly Campbell discuss what depression has looked like for them and the steps God led each of them to take in their recovery journey. Find Wholly Loved (and Teresa and Kelly): On their website Join the private Faith Over Fear Facebook Group  Join the Private Wholly Loved Community Facebook Group (Scroll down for discussion/reflective questions) What resonated with you most in this episode? Do you or someone you love suffer from depression? If so, how can you get help and/or provide support? What are your lifelines or anchors you can hold tight to when you are struggling? When you are feeling down, what are some verses from scripture that bring you comfort? Do you have people in your life that you trust and with whom you can share your struggles? If not, what are some other alternatives for you (i.e. pastoral counselor, professional counselor, support group?) Depression, anxiety, and suicide are at an all-time high in our society. How might we share our story of what Jesus has done for us in our lives to offer hope to a hurting world? What is one action step God might be asking you to take having listened to this episode? Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Learn how engagement momentum in an organization can be built from moments big and small. Join Kelly Staup and Kelly Campbell of Lindsay Co. to learn how they are using these moments to build and sustain engagement in their organization.View the complete transcript for this webcast, along with audio and video, at https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths/en/547730/turning-engagement-moments-into-momentum-lindsay.aspxView the complete transcript for this webcast, along with audio and video, at Learn more or purchase the new CliftonStrengths for Leaders report: www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths/en/403427/cliftonstrengths-for-leaders.aspxAre you enjoying this podcast? Make sure you follow us or leave a comment or review, so more people can learn about their natural talents.Other ways to stay connected:Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/cliftonstrengthsFollow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cliftonstrengths/Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CliftonStrengthFollow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CliftonStrengthsFor more information about strengths, visit gallup.com/cliftonstrengthsSubscribe to our CliftonStrengths Newsletter: https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths/en/348236/cliftonstrengths-newsletter.aspx

Learn how engagement momentum in an organization can be built from moments big and small. Join Kelly Staup and Kelly Campbell of Lindsay Co. to learn how they are using these moments to build and sustain engagement in their organization.View the complete transcript for this webcast, along with audio and video, at https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths/en/547730/turning-engagement-moments-into-momentum-lindsay.aspxView the complete transcript for this webcast, along with audio and video, at Learn more or purchase the new CliftonStrengths for Leaders report: www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths/en/403427/cliftonstrengths-for-leaders.aspxAre you enjoying this podcast? Make sure you follow us or leave a comment or review, so more people can learn about their natural talents.Other ways to stay connected:Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/cliftonstrengthsFollow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cliftonstrengths/Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CliftonStrengthFollow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CliftonStrengthsFor more information about strengths, visit gallup.com/cliftonstrengthsSubscribe to our CliftonStrengths Newsletter: https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths/en/348236/cliftonstrengths-newsletter.aspx

How does trauma impact leadership.  In this show I interview Kelly Campbell, author of viral article "Could Entrepreneurship be a Trauma Response?" and Podcast host of THRIVE: Your Agency Resource.  Join us for this rich and interesting show that goes deep into a topic that can be hard to talk about, especially at work. Resources mentioned in the show ... Could Entrepreneurship be a Trauma Response?How to Love Your Business by Nicolel Lewis-KeeberThe Myth of Normal by Dr. Gabor MatéAlexis Robin, Host of The Bright Side, is a Speaker on Positive Leadership and is the Co-founder of pLink Leadership.  She lives in Truckee, CA with her husband and college-bound twins where she enjoys the trees, sun, and the great outdoors. 

Selling an agency doesn't happen overnight. Neither does figuring out what happens after the sale. Today, Kelly Campbell takes us through their journey of selling their agency and helping many other agencies scale their own. This week, episode 177 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is about the journey from selling an agency to scaling dozens of them!Watch our new recorded video training: Relationship-Driven New Business At-ScaleIn this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Kelly Campbell shares the importance of positioning your agency and actionable steps you can take right now to sustainably scale your agency. Kelly Campbell is an inspiring speaker on trauma, leadership and consciousness. She is a Conscious Leadership Coach to high-impact leaders. Their holistic approach draws on two decades of experience as the empathetic founder of a cause marketing agency, as an ICF certified trauma-informed coach, and studies in Buddhist psychology, contemplative science, and inner child / shadow work. They are a wise curator, deep connector, and the founder of Consciousness Leaders.In this episode, Dan and Kelly discuss the following:Doing your due diligence, even during a quick acquisition process.Selling your agency might not bring you immediate happiness.When to hire in-house versus when to work with a partner for certain services.Kelly's insight on when to scale your agency. Thank you for listening! If you enjoyed this episode, please take a moment to follow, rate and review the podcast and tell me your key takeaways!Learn more about The Digitial Agency Growth Podcast at https://www.salesschema.com/podcast/CONNECT WITH KELLY CAMPBELL:LinkedInWebsiteCONNECT WITH DAN ENGLANDER:LinkedInSales Schema

Join me for a special show with guest Kelly Campbell discussing conscious leadership in the world today.  This is part one of a two part series where we cover mindsets and behaviors of conscious leaders and dip our toe into the connection to trauma.  (More on that in part two)Kelly Campbell is a Trauma-Informed Leadership Coach keynote speaker and sponsored podcast host. They are the founder of Consciousness Leaders, the world's most diverse speaker's agency. Her debut book on trauma and leadership will be published by Wiley Spring 2024.Podcast for Creative Leaders: THRIVE: Your Agency ResourceWorld's Most Diverse Speakers Agency: Consciousness LeadersBook Pre-Launch (Wiley, 2024): HEAL TO LEADAlexis Robin, Host of The Bright Side, is a Speaker on Positive Leadership and is the Co-founder of pLink Leadership.  She lives in Truckee, CA with her husband and teenage twins where she enjoys the trees, sun, and the great outdoors.  Visit pLink Leadership to find out how you can work with Alexis, or one of the pLink coaches. 

Jesus came to restore everything as it should be. To bring increased health and fulfillment to a hurting, dysfunctional, and broken world. But sometimes our first steps toward the new life Christ calls us to feel scary. What if the change He calls us to damages our current relationships and we end up alone? In this episode, Kelly Campbell and Jennifer Slattery talk about what emotions Abram may have wrestled with when God first called him from the land of his dysfunction and what we can learn from his journey. (Scroll down to find the group discussion questions) Find Kelly Campbell and Wholly Loved, at: https://www.WhollyLoved.com Find Jennifer Slattery at: http://jenniferslatterylivesoutloud.com https://www.instagram.com/slatteryjennifer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100083247680572 Find Wholly Loved Ministries at: WhollyLoved.com Join the private Faith Over Fear Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/442736966614671 Join the Private Wholly Loved Community Group (also on Facebook): https://www.facebook.com/groups/443325386241769 Group Discussion Questions: What resonated with you most in this episode? In today's episode, Jennifer talked about living in the “messy middle” where we're not as unhealthy as we once were but where we also know we have room to grow. Consider your current relationships. Where are you in your journey? In what areas would you like to see increased health? When have you felt the need to make a healthy change in a relationship? What was that change, how did you respond, and what were the results? Why do you think change, even when we know the change is for our good, can feel so unsettling? If you had been Abram, what would you have struggled with most in regard to leaving your homeland? Why is it important to remember God's heart for us when embarking on a challenging or uncertain journey? In today's episode, what did Jennifer say is God's heart for us? What type of life does He long for us to experience? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Do you find it difficult to rest, whether that involves something as simple as turning off your constantly pinging electronic devices, planning an afternoon out with friends, or engaging in a creative activity? Do all of your uncompleted tasks run through your mind the moment you step away from your desk or a particular responsibility? Sometimes it takes courage to rest. Yet, science also demonstrates, taking regular time for true, restorative rest also increases our courage by actively decreasing our anxiety. In this episode, Wholly Loved's Kelly Campbell talks with a woman who's dug deep into the research to discover ways we can all live a little less hustled and bustled and with ever-increasing joy and peace.  (Scroll down to find the group discussion questions) Find Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith at: https://www.drdaltonsmith.com/ https://www.instagram.com/drdaltonsmith/ https://www.facebook.com/DrSaundraDaltonSmith Take the Rest Quiz at: https://www.restquiz.com/quiz/rest-quiz-test/ Find Kelly Campbell, and Wholly Loved Ministries, at: http://WhollyLoved.com Join the private Faith Over Fear Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/442736966614671 Join the Private Wholly Loved Community Group (also on Facebook): https://www.facebook.com/groups/443325386241769 Group Discussion or Personal Journal Questions: What resonated with you most in this episode? When do you most tend to get defensive? In those particular situations, what story are you telling yourself? What are some truths you can reflect upon prior to those types of situations or interactions with that particular person? Why is it important to recognize that not everyone is a safe person who will be helpful while you are working to heal? How did you feel when Tina and Jennifer talked about potentially limiting time with unhealthy family members? What were some signs Tina mentioned that can indicate a person is not willing to change? How can recognizing this help you find the healthiest level of involvement with an individual more focused on casting blame than moving toward relational health? What is one action step God might be asking you to take after having listened to today's content? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ep. 61 of the Cyber Law Revolution is live!THE INVASION OF THE MCDONALD HOPKINS DP TEAM (or at least some of them!)! In this episode, we are joined by Sanjana Palla, Kelly Campbell, Heather Shumaker, Stephen Robison, and Meghan Collins, all cybersecurity and privacy attorneys at McDonald Hopkins! Each provides inside information on why they decided to pursue a career in cyber and privacy law, how they got into the area, and advise to new attorneys looking to break into the field!Keep the questions and comments coming! 410-917-5189 or spollock@mcdonaldhopkins.com

Join our FREE COMMUNITY as a member of the Unbroken Nation: https://www.thinkunbrokenacademy.com/share/AEGok414shubQSzq?utm_source=manual  Join us for our FREE trauma Transformation conference this December at: MYUNBROKENLIFE.COM Kelly Campbell is a consciousness leadership coach and someone who is just absolutely incredible. From leaving her home at 16 to building and selling an incredible digital marketing business to now helping other people who want to be conscious leaders create massive change in their life by being on sages and speaking and podcasts and things of that nature. I loved her energy, her effort, and what she's trying to create in the world. Today, she shared aspects and bits and pieces of her story and her journey that she's never shared before. I feel both honored and humbled by her willingness to sit in the vulnerability of dealing with a lot of darkness growing up. ************* LINKS & RESOURCES ************* Learn how to heal and overcome childhood trauma, narcissistic abuse, ptsd, cptsd, higher ACE scores, anxiety, depression, and mental health issues and illness. Learn tools that therapists, trauma coaches, mindset leaders, neuroscientists, and researchers use to help people heal and recover from mental health problems. Discover real and practical advice and guidance for how to understand and overcome childhood trauma, abuse, and narc abuse mental trauma. Heal your body and mind, stop limiting beliefs, end self-sabotage, and become the HERO of your own story.  Download the first three chapters of the Award-Winning Book Think Unbroken: Understanding and Overcoming Childhood Trauma: https://book.thinkunbroken.com/  Join the Think Unbroken Trauma Transformation Course: https://coaching.thinkunbroken.com/  @Michael Unbroken: https://www.instagram.com/michaelunbroken/  Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@michaelunbroken  Learn more at https://www.thinkunbrokenpodcast.com  Learn more about Kelly Campbell at: https://klcampbell.com

In today's episode, we're talking about what it means to be a conscious leader. Let's face it - the world is changing. Now, more than ever, those who are hiring speakers are looking for open-minded, conscious individuals to motivate and empower their audiences. To help us unpack what it means to be a conscious leader, we've brought on Kelly Campbell. Kelly Campbell is a Trauma-Informed Conscious Leadership Coach, helping creative and technology leaders transform both life and agency. The former owner of a cause marketing firm for 14 years, her coaching and consulting work focuses on personal development, purpose, positioning, people, pipeline, and profitability. As a keynote speaker at leadership conferences across the country, Kelly has been featured in Forbes, Woman Entrepreneur, and The Startup on Medium. She is also the founder of Consciousness Leaders, a representation agency pairing trusted and diverse experts with organizations to create positive change and drive lasting results. She's also currently authoring her first book on the connective tissue between healing trauma and becoming a conscious leader. So, without further ado, let's dive in! Show Notes: ✅ Check out the Consciousness Leaders Collective: https://consciousnessleaders.com

First on the show for Filmmaker Showcase #4 is Skyline alum, Anil Dhokai. Anil and Strawhouse Pictures are back in Winchester with Unblocked a short sci-fi comedy about aliens whose cloaking device malfunctions. It's a fun film with a great punchline! Another Skyline alum, Kai Brown discusses the short film True Crime, made by Brown […] The post Ep 64: Filmmaker Showcase #4 – Anil Dhokai, Kai Brown, Kelly Campbell, Mike Madigan, and Barry Thornburg appeared first on Skyline Indie Film Fest.

Thank you for listening to Legal Nurse Podcast. On September 6, 2016, I launched this podcast. We are celebrating today. This is the five hundredth show! When I first thought of sharing tips with you in the form of a podcast, the idea of getting the technology straightened out was a bit daunting. A business coach I hired helped me work through the steps and helped me get everything ready. At the beginning of Legal Nurse Podcast, I released 2 shows a week. The first was an interview and two days later, the second show was a monologue I created based on the same topic our guest covered. My cohost Kelly Campbell joined me for about a year and contributed ideas and guests. In July 2020, Barbara Levin and I began planning virtual conferences and I decided to drop the second episode of the week. Here's what people tell me: you listen when taking a walk, driving, cleaning the house and working out. The podcast has over one hundred thirty-six thousand downloads. Our listeners are in 92 countries. The top numbers of listeners are in the United States, Japan, Canada, Australia, UK and Germany. Eighty three percent of you listen to the podcast on mobile devices. The rest are going to our website, podcast.legalnursebusiness.com Here's what I've found. LNCs tell me that they dip into the vault of past shows and listen to current and older episodes. They appreciate the tips and hearing from a variety of LNCs and experts.. In the last 6 years we've seen some major changes in our world. During 2020 when the courthouses closed down in the U.S., attorneys worked harder to settle their cases. They learned how to take depositions by Zoom and even try some cases that way. Now that courts are a bit more open, attorneys continue to focus on settling cases, knowing that there is a backlog of cases waiting for trial. LNCs are essential to helping attorneys sort through cases, rejecting non meritorious ones, and conserving their resources. You help attorneys make sense of murky medical records, gain insights using your analytical skills, and provide decisive guidance. Once attorneys have rewarding relationships with LNCs, they often cannot think of managing cases without them. You may have heard me discuss how I built a large and successful multimillion dollar LNC business – from 1989 to January 2015 when I sold it. In February 2021 I returned to the practice of legal nurse consulting, after fulfilling a 5 year non-compete agreement with my business' purchaser. I work with a few attorneys now and love the experience. Here's what I know is true: you will have a rewarding business when you couple your knowledge with grateful clients. There are many attorneys who don't yet know how useful you can be. There are a few who think they know it all and don't need medical help. There are a few who don't appreciate your experience or undervalue your services. Don't waste your time trying to convert the hard-headed. If you do so, you'll just keep spinning in the wind, unable to satisfy these individuals. Look for the attorneys who want and need help and are willing to pay for it. If you have a bad experience with an attorney, learn from it and move on. When you have a great experience, which will be true for the majority of cases, learn from it and bask in the rewards. Your skills are an excellent way to serve attorneys and their clients. You have the ability to share what you know and serve the needs of your clients. Embrace this, grow with it, and enjoy it. I want to hear from you. Tell me what topics you'd like our guests to tackle. Send me an email at patiyerLNC@gmail.com. Tell me what you like about the show. Leave a rating on the podcast platform you use and share your comments. I'm here for you. And thank you for listening! Join us for our 6th Virtual Conference LNC Success is a Livecast Virtual Conference 2-day event designed for legal nurse consultants just like you!

Partner George Banks with STHRN Hospitality Co. joins the Atlanta Real Estate Forum Radio podcast to share the inspiration behind Westside Motor Lounge and the property's history while touching on placemaking, amenities and more. Banks joins host Carol Morgan on the Around Atlanta segment. With a background in commercial real estate, Banks has been a developer in the metro Atlanta area for over 20 years. Founder of Revel, a retail real estate development firm, Banks has a history with Paces Properties conducting intown adaptive reuse projects and collectively formed STHRN Hospitality Co. with the aid of Elizabeth Feichter and Kelly Campbell. STHRN Hospitality Co. runs bars, restaurants and various hospitality venues on behalf of commercial real estate owners. Formed ahead of the pandemic, STHRN Hospitality Co. benefits from the background of Feichter and Campbell, both containing ample experience in large-scale events, design and operations. Both Feichter and Campbell have already made incredible progress in the Atlanta market with the creation and production of the Atlanta Food and Wine Festival. Banks said, “We thought there was a real opportunity to bring some of that event and activation expertise to commercial real estate.” With the realization that many events and activations in the Atlanta area are beyond the scope of a day-to-day property management group, STHRN Hospitality Co. became involved with the Echo Street West project headed by Lincoln Property Management Company. In its role as a retail development consultant for the project, Revel recognized the necessary presence of a restaurant and bar at the front corner of the property. Ordinarily, the property would be redeveloped into a midrise residential complex or something similar. In the meantime, Echo Street West was in need of a front door - Westside Motor Lounge. Revel approached Lincoln Property Management Company with the idea for a restaurant backed by the expertise of what would become STHRN Hospitality Co. to run operations. From that process came the finalization of the company and the formation of the team that will run Westside Motor Lounge when it opens at the end of June. Banks said, “[Placemaking] is incredibly important… We started Revel six years ago because of this realization that the fun restaurants and retail that we want to do is often really in demand but frankly…as a standalone entity, doesn't make a lot of sense.” In a placemaking world, Revel and STHRN Hospitality Co. simultaneously believe that if you construct, program and market the ground floor as a high activity and interest space, residents and visitors will flock to the development. Situated at the corner of Northside Drive and Donald Lee Hollowell Parkway, Westside Motor Lounge acts as the front door of Echo Street West, a 10-year development project. The Lounge was originally three dilapidated auto repair shops and now stands as a three-acre outdoor space featuring a half-acre courtyard, beer garden, event space, game room and so much more! The development also connects Mercedes Benz Stadium to Westside Park and the Westside BeltLine. Tune in to the full interview above for more details on Westside Motor Lounge or visit www.WestsideMotorLounge.com. Never miss an episode of Atlanta Real Estate Forum Radio! Subscribe to the podcast here. You can also get a recap of any past episode on the Radio page. Listen to the full interview above! Georgia Residential Mortgage Licensee, License #22564. NMLS ID #6606. Subject to borrower and property qualifications. Not all applicants will qualify. New American Funding, STHRN Hospitality Co. and Westside Motor Lounge are not associated. Click here to view the terms and conditions of products mentioned during the show. Corporate office 14511 Myford Rd., Suite 100, Tustin, CA 92780. Phone: (800) 450-2010. (June/2022) New American Funding is a family-owned mortgage lender with a servicing portfolio of over 2...

Our world really stinks sometimes. Jesus never promised us an easy and pain free life. To the contrary. He told us to expect trouble, but God also promised our pain wouldn't last forever and that he'd use our hardships for good. In this episode, Jennifer Slattery talks with stroke survivor Kelly Campbell about the hope that undergirds a spiritually resilient life. Find Wholly Loved's free Unshakable Unbreakable Joy Bible study here:https://whollyloved.com/product/unshakable-unbreakable-joy-free-e-file/Find Wholly Loved, at:https://www.WhollyLoved.comFind out about Wholly Loved's small groups at:https://whollyloved.com/resources/online-studies/Join the private Faith Over Fear Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/442736966614671Join the Private Wholly Loved Community Group (also on Facebook):https://www.facebook.com/groups/443325386241769Group Discussion Questions:1. What resonated with you most in today's episode? 2. When have you experienced a time when you felt like your life, as you planned it, was in essence over?3. What truths regarding God's heart and character helped you hold tight to hope? 4. What questions did (or has) your hardship evoked? 5. When has a hardship or struggle deepened your relationship with Christ?6. How does (or might) knowing Christ will use your hardship for good effect your perspective?7. When has someone else's struggle and their response to it deepened your faith or revealed Christ? 8. What is one truth you can hold tight to today in order to increase your hope and perseverance?

Kelly Campbell is an Agency Growth Consultant and Conscious Leadership Coach helping creative and technology leaders transform their lives and grow their agencies. She is the Co-founder of Consciousness Leaders, a global collective of experts helping organizations create positive, lasting change.  Kelly is also the host of the podcast, THRIVE: Your Agency Resource, and is currently authoring her first book on redefining leadership as a healing journey. In this episode of the Smart Business Revolution Podcast, John Corcoran interviews Kelly Campbell, the Co-founder of Consciousness Leaders, about how she started her businesses and her journey to becoming a consciousness coach. Kelly shares her reasons for selling her business, the lessons she learned about entrepreneurship and building an agency, and explains how she uses her experience to help fellow entrepreneurs build better businesses. Stay tuned.