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How do you rebuild your life when everything seems lost? In this episode of the Thrive State Podcast, Dr. Kien Vuu sits down with Michael Unbroken, a man who went from homelessness, childhood trauma, and self-destruction to success, purpose, and empowerment. Michael shares the raw truth about his journey—how he faced unimaginable hardship, battled obesity, and struggled with limiting beliefs before transforming his life. This conversation is packed with insights, strategies, and hard-hitting truths that will challenge you to reframe your own story and take control of your future.   What You'll Learn in This Episode: ✔ How childhood trauma impacts mindset and health ✔ The moment Michael decided to change his life—and how you can too ✔ Why self-discipline and radical accountability are key to transformation   Episode Highlights: Michael's childhood trauma and how it shaped him How obesity became part of his survival mechanism The breaking point that changed everything Why mindset is the most powerful tool for transformation Healing from trauma: What actually works How to take control of your own story  

Celebrate your wins with this special Fuck Yeah Friday episode! Lesley and Brad discuss how embracing intentionality, reflecting on personal victories, and letting go of control can lead to incredible breakthroughs. Tune in to hear community wins, the value of scheduling tools, and insights on making space for what truly matters.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Automating tasks to stay focused and present.Leveraging AI to achieve clarity.Reflecting on goals for health and intentionality.Delegating effectively to achieve balance and stability.Episode References/Links:FemGevity Affiliate Link - https://beitpod.com/femgevityEp. 313 Monica Linda - https://beitpod.com/ep313Ep. 424 Nadine Hanafi - https://beitpod.com/ep424 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Lesley Logan 0:01  Fuck yeah. Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:47  Welcome back to Be It Till You See It. Today is your Fuck Yeah Friday, your adult version of TGIF. You know that weekly episode that you're like, this is gonna drop, and it's gonna remind me that there are wins out there and you know what is also like, really important, if you got to this episode and you're looking for a way to skip out of it because you're like, because, like, (inaudible) what's going on? Brad Crowell 0:47  Yeah. It's a big deal. Lesley Logan 1:06  Does that make you think that other people are winning and you're not? We have to slap, slap, slap. Brad Crowell 1:12  Change that up. Lesley Logan 1:12  This is where you go and youBrad Crowell 1:15  This is an opportunity to know that good still happens in the world. Lesley Logan 1:21  Yes. Brad Crowell 1:22  Yeah. Lesley Logan 1:22  Yes. And that led to you go, oh. Also sometimes you go oh, I had that win.Brad Crowell 1:27  Yeah, maybe good is happening in my life, but I'm not seeing it. Lesley Logan 1:30  Yeah, Yeah. So okay, first up, the win that you sent into us is Adrienne McCaskey and she is Agency member. We probably just saw her in Pennsylvania, actually. Brad Crowell 1:40  Oh, yeah. Lesley Logan 1:40  So coming from my I-need-a-moment, so I'll just say, if you find yourself complaining in your life, this is me talking not Adrienne, find yourself complaining in your life, you need to finish your complaint and then find a win. So that's what's happening here. I'm struggling to think of specific wins as of late. So, that said, I'm feeling good about how I've been able to be more present with my kids after school and in my off hours. Thanks to more automation and use of my scheduling tool and trying to get clients to schedule and cancel themselves. Brad Crowell 2:10  That is awesome. Lesley Logan 2:11  Yeah, that's fucking amazing. Brad Crowell 2:13  Fantastic. Lesley Logan 2:14  That's a huge win. Brad Crowell 2:15  Yeah, that's exactly why you want a scheduling tool. So, good job. Lesley Logan 2:19  Yeah. Also, thanks to some tips from others and the agency group, I've been better about setting reminders and sticking to schedules for admin tasks like tax deadlines, cleaning, etc., so Idon't fall behind or let these things sneak up on me. Every little bit of organization helps. Setting a reminder and then looking at it, I mean, I think you won, Adrienne, I think you won. This is like The Game Of Life. You just won it. I love that and I love that.Brad Crowell 2:47  You know, I've never played that game. Lesley Logan 2:48  The Game Of Life? Brad Crowell 2:49  I've never played it. Lesley Logan 2:49  The first time I played it, I gave me six children. I had the kids under the van and I had a split-level house, which on the card. Brad Crowell 2:55  What? Lesley Logan 2:55  Can you tell it traumatized me? Brad Crowell 2:56  What is this game? Lesley Logan 2:57  The Game Of Life? Brad Crowell 2:59  Never played it. Lesley Logan 2:59  Oh, we should just get it and play it at Thanksgiving. So you like spin, and it tells you like a number, and that helps you choose a job. And you pull a card and you can end up being a cop or a teacher or a surgeon, right? And then you go at other things, like, okay, now choose your pay, right? And then you draw a random card, you can get $10,000 a year, that could be your pay. But then it's like, oh, taxes are due. It's like Monopoly, but not. You're not buying much houses. But I had six kids, because every time it was like, oh, you just had a baby. It's like, oh my God. And another kid, all these kids, like, stacked on my little car. And then I had a split level house. And the drawing of the house when it was a split level had a split down like it was a trashy house. Brad Crowell 3:39  Oh. Lesley Logan 3:38  And by the way, split level houses are not it just means that there's a split level. So I thought The Game Of Life was being a little harsh on some people. You could also get a (inaudible). You learn about all the different types of homes you can get. It's very interesting. We have to play it. Okay, let's get back to one more win of yours. This is from Karen Campbell. Celebrating that I've been honing in on my ICA, so that's a ideal client avatar, and this week, things have really clicked. I have the most true to me, I Help statement that I have ever had. It's been a culmination of all the conversations, coaching calls, webinars, inside of Agency, as well as leaning into the use of AI for help with marketing messaging.Brad Crowell 3:39  Great.Lesley Logan 3:39  Thank you, LL, Brad, Kirsten, Kirsten has an AI course that Karen's leaning into, and Rachel Piper, and for the recent Monica Linda and Nadine Hanafi webinars. So grateful. Brad Crowell 4:25  Awesome. Lesley Logan 4:26  Good things are coming because I've gained the clarity needed to move the needle forward. Boom. Brad Crowell 4:34  Man, she's on a roll. Lesley Logan 4:35  She's on a roll. So Monica Linda has been on the Be It Pod, and so has Nadine Hanafi. And if you are wanting Nadine's amazing branding stuff, it is brilliant, and we've linked to it in her podcast episode. And so please take a look at that so you can get our little Be It Pod link to figure out what your colors are and things like that. But also, I just want to highlight this is a culmination of conversation. Brad Crowell 4:58  Yeah. Lesley Logan 4:58  I heard about I Help statement, I should have an I Help statement, and it can take time. Brad Crowell 5:02  It takes time. I was just on a coaching call with another Agency member, and I'm going to remain anonymous because I didn't tell I was going to share this, but she said for years I've struggled with my I Help statement and the frustrations that I've had in the past couple weeks have suddenly made it really clear to me what my I Help statement needs to be. Lesley Logan 5:24  Oh. Brad Crowell 5:25  Yeah. And because when we go through some bullshit, you suddenly know what you do and don't want and who you do want to work with and you don't want to work with and why. And so it can allow those things to become more clear, but maybe sometimes you just have to go through something first before that clarity comes to you. So it's a tough thing to demand instantaneously, even though you can be thinking about it, thinking about it. So Karen, I know it's really exciting, so I'm happy for you. This is fantastic. Great job. Yeah.Lesley Logan 5:53  Yeah. Okay, so I thought today would be a good time to reflect on things that you don't have to join in, because I didn't tell you this before we hit record, but on things that I said I want to do this year and celebrate what I did do on that. So I'll start. And if you think of something that you wanted to do this year, and you can tell us how it's going. Brad Crowell 6:13  I'd have to look at my phone, but I have something in mind. I don't know if I did it or not. Lesley Logan 6:18  Okay, so I wanted to be more intentional about getting into the Las Vegas community, and like having friends in Las Vegas, doing things with friends. And I will say, we planned a few things, and I'm like, Las Vegas' canceled. This is not a complaint. But also, I got to hang out with another Las Vegas multiple times, and I tried out new restaurants with her. And so I'm gonna call it a win. I also tried out a library card, and I tried out pole dancing, and I tried to, like, get to know more parts of the city, and we tried out new restaurants, and we were open to going to dinner with different particular couples or potential couples. And so I feel like even with all the travel we had, I definitely took advantage of the Vegas time that I had, and it's really easy to go reflect on that. Go, I could have done more. Oh, I could have actually reached out to them a week before. I could have done this. That's not how you do wins everyone. So what I did do is more than I did a year ago, and more than the year before that. And I really am proud of that intentionality, and I'm excited for the year to come because I have more people in Las Vegas to spend time with. So that's really cool. Lesley Logan 7:23  Another thing that I also had wins throughout the year already about this is just like being more intentional with girlfriends and talking to them, and I got to see all of my girlfriends multiple times in the year and hang out with them in person. And so I'm really proud about that. I think that's really cool. Brad Crowell 7:40  That's awesome. Lesley Logan 7:40  Yeah, I also had this goal of really trying to figure what's wrong with my stomach and with my health and my sleep, and with the help of FemGevity, I fucking got answers, and I really am loving how I'm feeling, like I'm going into next year feeling better than I did last year. Yeah, so that's a huge win. And then I will say I wanted to have more time in my schedule, and it took us several months and some big battles, but I got a bunch of my time back. And did I use that extra time to work on the things that I wanted to learn? No. Brad Crowell 8:15  But that's kind of okay.Lesley Logan 8:16  That's okay because the goal was to get the time back.Brad Crowell 8:18  We've also been push, push, push for years, so, you know, taking a rest with that time is also incredibly helpful. Lesley Logan 8:25  I also was like, what is it like to get bored? Let's try that. And I also got better ideas not filling that time. That's why the win doesn't have to be I got time and then I used it somewhere else. I got some time back and I used it to play a video game and read a book and lay on my (inaudible) and talk to some girlfriends and I have time like the other day, I saw a friend's story. I never watched her stories, and I saw her story, and she was going through something, and I was just like, hey, I'm free at 9am on Monday. Do you want to have a chat? I got on the phone with her, and because I had the time and I wasn't behind on projects, I can go here's how I think I can solve your problem, and here's who you should call. And that's what I did. And it was a 15-minute call, and I was like, okay, bye. And so I just am really proud that I gave myself time that wasn't filled with other things, so that I could be there for people or do things spontaneously. Brad Crowell 9:11  Yeah, well, that's awesome. Those are great. I got a couple that come to mind. This year, I wanted to shift away from some of the managing of the company that I have been doing historically, because I am very passionate, but I'm also very hands on and controlling. And so by relinquishing the projects to people who are incredibly capable and could do the job, it's been allowing me to focus on shifting into a different position in the company, which still is the CEO role, but more of a sales and marketing side of things. So I'm still, you know, ultimately, handling stuff, but I'm not micromanaging like I was, and that's been a really different way to work, and it's also allowed me to connect more with our clients who are coming in, and also effectively move the needle of the sales in a good way. So that's a big win. The word for the year for me was stability. Lesley Logan 10:11  Oh.Brad Crowell 10:11  Yeah. Lesley Logan 10:12  You and Michael Unbroken has a word for his year. He does it on his birth. I don't, I can't pick a word. But anyways.Brad Crowell 10:18  Wow. 2024, my goal was stability, and what that meant is last year was really intense, topsy-turvy as far as launches and income and travel and all the things, and this year was just as busy, but it didn't feel as chaotic, and it was also more we were able to high-level with our company, we're able to shift when we were getting the income. And so it gave us better cash flow management, which any business owner out there understands what I mean. It's great to make a bunch of money at the beginning of the year, but then if you make no money in the middle of the year, you're like, oh my God, do we still have enough? And so we were able to make some adjustments and shift things around as far as when we were doing what we were doing, and that has made my stress levels incredibly better this past year than it was a year ago. So I'm super proud of our team for that. I'm proud, I mean, it was a team effort to be able to do that. Lesley Logan 11:15  Yeah, I'm also proud of us and also you. Here's the thing, you can ask the team do all of these things, and we can change things around so that it feels more stable. Then you also have to let go of the muscle that likes to stress and worry. That's the think. Like, that's a habit. Stress is a habit. Stressing about things you can't control, habit.Brad Crowell 11:35  That's true. Yeah. And the last thing which I need my phone to be able to answer is my goal was to get seven hours of sleep this year, a night. Lesley Logan 11:42  Oh, on average? Brad Crowell 11:44  On average. And I know I got six for sure. Lesley Logan 11:47  Can we just log in on your computer to Oura? Brad Crowell 11:50  I mean, can I? Lesley Logan 11:51  I think you can. Yeah. Brad Crowell 11:52  Okay, here we go. Well, I got six hours on average. Lesley Logan 11:56  And you wanted seven? Brad Crowell 11:57  I wanted seven. Six hours and 15. Lesley Logan 12:00  Here's what I think we should do, Brad, we'll get our 2024 reports at the end of this year while we're on tour. And then when we come back from tour and we do the FYFs for February, you and I will share any changes we want to make to our health, as far as what we can track, as far as sleep goes. Brad Crowell 12:17  Dig it.Lesley Logan 12:18  Okay, here we go. I think that this is the most applicable mantra that could exist for wrapping the 2024 FYFs up for the year. I am growing and going at my own pace. I am growing and going at my own pace. I am growing and going at my own pace. Guys, that could be your mantra for the whole fucking year. So you know what to do. Lesley Logan 12:44  All right, loves. We hope you really enjoyed. I don't know, if you think that these suck, you can tell us, but here's the thing, I listened to this one podcast I've been inspired. I said it on during one of the roundups, the rewinds, one of the reviews gave him five stars and then said this host is lacking and is not doing a great job. So don't say that. You can email that in, but give us five stars, and then email the team like, hey, the FYF suck, or hey, I really wish you did X, Y and Z. You're welcome to tell us. I'm not gonna say we'll make changes. This is who we are, but the goal, again, of the FYFs is to remind you that good things are happening, and even when you're feeling like you're in a shit hole, like a lotus flower can grow from that, and so wins can come from the weirdest places. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Happy New Year. Have an amazing one. Brad Crowell 13:31  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 13:33  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 14:16  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 14:20  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 14:25  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 14:32  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 14:35  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Welcome to Common Denominator! On this episode, we're sharing some of our FAVORITE mindset conversations from the past year. As we approach the new year and its limitless possibilities, this is the perfect time to establish a mindset of gratitude, confidence, and abundance.You'll hear from preeminent mindset thought leaders, including Jon Gordon, Michael Chernow, Dr. Jenelle Kim, Andy Bustamante, Peter Crone, Michael Unbroken, Victoria Vesce, Jim Curtis, Kehinde Thomas, and Michael Bernoff.If you enjoy this episode, please consider leaving a rating and a review. It makes a huge difference in spreading the word about the show and helps us get more great guests.  Thanks for listening!Follow Moshe on social media:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MoshePopack/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mpopack/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mpopack

Don't miss this episode—join Lesley and Brad as they reflect on their favorite takeaways from an inspiring conversation with Ericka Nicole Malone, a powerhouse writer, producer, and lifestyle expert. Known for creating compelling plays, films, and TV shows, Ericka's journey of reigniting old passions and embracing new challenges offers meaningful lessons on building confidence and cultivating curiosity.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How a sense of yearning and wonder can enhance self-confidence.The benefits of trying new things and stepping out of your comfort zone.The importance of safeguarding your goals from negativity and naysayers.Why self-compassion is a crucial element in overcoming guilt and self-doubt.The value of pushing beyond fears to achieve what you truly want.Episode References/Links:Cambodia February 2025 Retreat - https://crowsnestretreats.com/Flashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlistPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorOPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tourFlashcards on Amazon - https://a.co/d/5zF8Mc9Ericka Nicole Malone - https://erickanicolemalone.comThe Bucket Wish Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/bucketwishofficialThe Artist's Way - https://juliacameronlive.com/Ep. 298 Michael Unbroken - https://beitpod.com/ep298 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's possible that you're playing small or your fears, they're very valid because of your past experience, but if you don't give yourself the opportunity to jump into something new, to see what's on the other side, you will always have a fear-based life without enjoying what you want. Lesley Logan 0:19  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:01  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the versatile convo I have with Ericka Nicole Malone. Yes, don't you want a name that has, that's like that? Brad Crowell 1:11  All three things? Lesley Logan 1:12  Ericka Nicole Malone, in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, you should pause this now, and you should listen to it, or listen to this one, then listen to that one. See if we have the same takeaways. If you watch our situation on the YouTube, I don't know, I don't know if we edited, I hope we edit out where I spilt water all over the desk during the interview. Brad Crowell 1:30  I think we did. We definitely did. Lesley Logan 1:32  And Ericka is she's got a little fear of dogs, and one of the dogs opened the door during the interview, so we no longer are doing in-person interviews.Brad Crowell 1:41  For sure we edited that out, too.Lesley Logan 1:43  Oh my God. Anyways, it was okay. Just a great interview. What we didn't, what we left on? Brad Crowell 1:50  Well, it was actually cool, because she came here, so she was actually in person, which we've only done that a few times before, maybe half a dozen, in all these episodes? Lesley Logan 2:00  In-person interview? Not at the house. Oh, we did Michael Unbroken was here at the house. Brad Crowell 2:04  Kareen, Michael, Nikole. Lesley Logan 2:06  Kareen was not at that we did it at her place.Brad Crowell 2:09  Oh yeah, we did. But yeah, I know.Lesley Logan 2:10  So in our studio.Brad Crowell 2:12  Yeah.Lesley Logan 2:12  We've had two. Brad Crowell 2:13  Michael and Nikole and Ericka, so three.Lesley Logan 2:16  Oh yeah, yeah, Nikole, Nikole. Nikole Mitchell. Well, I'm sorry, this is Ericka Nicole Malone, so I was confused. Lesley Logan 2:24  Anyways, today is November 21st 2024 and it's Used Less Stuff Day. I'm gonna tell you about this day, because the way I think of it, it means, like, don't use too much (inaudible). Brad Crowell 2:33  If you read it really fast, it says useless stuff. Lesley Logan 2:36  Useless stuff. Brad Crowell 2:37  But that's not the day it is Used Less Stuff Day. Lesley Logan 2:41  Used Less Stuff. Used Less Stuff Day. Brad Crowell 2:44  Used Less useless stuff. How about that? Lesley Logan 2:46  Yeah. In the 50s, minimalist art rose to prominence, and minimalistic design and architecture grew popular. Japan shifted towards making homes that did not require expensive materials and was reduced to the basic element. Life was chaotic, and we crowded in the cities and people wanted to simplify by buying fewer things and using as little space as possible. The day was created to spread awareness about the clutter of unnecessary things in our homes, especially during one of the busiest shopping months of the year, encourages people to adopt a minimalist lifestyle, where only the essentials are bought or kept. I just want to say we no longer subscribe to minimalist life. Brad Crowell 3:20  Who? You and me? Lesley Logan 3:20  Yeah, we used to. Brad Crowell 3:21  Yeah. We definitely tried. Lesley Logan 3:23  Okay, so here's the deal. Brad Crowell 3:24  Even in that space, we still had stuff. Lesley Logan 3:26  Yeah, well, it's because you're a master packer. We, here's what I'm gonna say, that we're gonna commit to around the weekend of this episode coming out. We, speaking of Michael Unbroken, we are going to host some of his artwork in a closet while he's traveling the world. We don't actually have a single closet where anything more could. Yeah, look at that babe. Look at that closet. So that closet you're looking at is a little scary, but I think if we just commit. Brad Crowell 3:51  It's just full of coats. Lesley Logan 3:53  If we commit, no, you have so many instruments in that closet. No, there are boxes in there that have nothing inside them. We're just holding on to boxes of things that we bought years ago. You couldn't return if you wanted to. Brad Crowell 4:08  Yeah, those probably could go now. They were bought. Lesley Logan 4:10  I would just like to put it on the record. Brad Crowell 4:12  A couple of years ago.Lesley Logan 4:12  On the record that between this episode dropping and Thanksgiving, we are going to make space in this closet because we've committed to holding on to someone's artwork. Brad Crowell 4:22  I did think where are we going to put them? And this is the only logical choice and so it does need to be reviewed. We do have, by the way, a dog conveyor belt situation. What's it called? Walking? When you walk on a thing. Lesley Logan 4:36  The dog treadmill? Brad Crowell 4:37  Treadmills. That's the word. Lesley Logan 4:38  I thought we gave it away. Brad Crowell 4:38  Nope. Still in there. Lesley Logan 4:39  You hid it. There's also a, I can see at least one trombone and a Roomba that we used a time.Brad Crowell 4:53  We used it like four times. Lesley Logan 4:55  Yeah, somebody want a Roomba, but let us know. Okay, we'll give you a good price. We did, recently, just get back from Cambodia. We've been back for a bit and.Brad Crowell 4:55  Yeah, that's true. We've been back for a month. Lesley Logan 5:04  Yeah. And so we want you to come with us. Brad Crowell 5:07  Yeah, actually, five weeks. But we also extended our trip and went one more country over, which you could do, too if you join us, February, we're gonna be going back. We're gonna take an amazing group. We already have an incredible group coming with us. Lesley Logan 5:15  Oh, my God, amazing, amazing (inaudible). Brad Crowell 5:16  Yes, we're really fired up. It's a bunch of people who've been clients of ours for a long time. It's gonna be so much fun we cannot wait. And don't worry, if you have not been a client of ours for a long time, you're gonna just fit right into the mix. Don't worry about that. Yeah. So go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestreets.com the experience in Cambodia is like a once in a lifetime or maybe twice a lifetime experience, because we've had people come back, 20 people come back (inaudible) actually, it is just mind blowing, so you have to come, you have to enjoy it. Okay, next up. Lesley Logan 5:53  Literally, when this comes out, I'm gonna be in Los Angeles, truly getting as much guillotine into my body for the photo shoot that we're doing on Saturday for the Accessories Pilates flashcard deck. And the accessories deck is the last deck in our Pilates flashcard series. And don't worry if you don't know what a guillotine is, it's only like 11 exercises in this deck. Majority of the exercises are things you can make from household products. I am committed to figuring out how to make the push up devices with PVC pipe, babe, we have to actually make a commitment to doing that because somebody on Instagram commented because I was showing them how I do a handstand. Did I show you my new handstand on my push up devices? Brad Crowell 6:30  Yeah, yeah, you showed me the video you did. It's pretty awesome. It's a great way to train. Lesley Logan 6:35  Yeah. It's a really great way to train. It's a little freaking scary. At any rate, I got these handles, and I know that we can make them with PVC pipe, because I have seen it, I've done some research, so I want to figure out and make a pair out of PVC pipe, because the actual push of devices literally costs $700 now. It is insanity, because it's, this is what I was told, it's hand-spun wood. Brad Crowell 6:59  I think so. Lesley Logan 7:00  Yeah, so that costs a lot of money. At any rate, we're doing that photo shoot in LA. That's what this whole thing came from. And if you want to learn how to use marbles at home to better your feet or use your towels in a better way. Brad Crowell 7:12  We'll be making marbles. Lesley Logan 7:13  We're not going to make the marbles. I do have to buy some. That reminded me, I need to do that now. But the accessories deck you want to get on the wait list, because that's when you get the best price. And that's opc.me/flashcardwaitlist. I'm gonna do a shout out for the flash cards next week. Next week is the Black Friday Cyber Monday situations. Brad Crowell 7:33  It is. Lesley Logan 7:33  And we will have a tiny 10% sale on the flash cards. But that's not as good as if you're on the presale wait list for the accessories deck, because you could get 30% off when the presale happens you want to (inaudible).Brad Crowell 7:47  Yeah. So these flash cards aren't going to come out till next year, probably around the summer. We're shooting for beginning middle of summer and making sure that we're on point this time. We had a lot of extraneous things get in the way last year, like hurricanes and things like that.Lesley Logan 8:02  Yeah. Our goal is to do presale earlier, so that they ship before hurricane season. That's the new goal. Brad Crowell 8:08  That's the goal. So anyway, go to opc dot moiLesley Logan 8:13  No, just me/flashcardwaitlist, all one word. Then Brad is a host in this amazing webinar. We've had so many people attend it. Brad Crowell 8:22  It's been great. Lesley Logan 8:22  It's been really a great, people really loved it. It's been really inspiring. How many do you have left for the rest of this year?Brad Crowell 8:28  One? Lesley Logan 8:28  Okay, so you need to go to prfit.biz/accelerator. If you are a Pilates teacher, studio owner who works for themselves and wants your work to work for you. There will probably be more in the new year. So, you know, stay tuned. But also, don't you want to start the new year off knowing you have the support for your business?. You do. prfit.biz/accelerator. Lesley Logan 8:47  And last but not least, in a couple of weeks, literally two weeks away, we are on tour. Balanced. Body is powering this tour. They're our primary sponsor. They're amazing. We've got gift certificates to raffle off. And we were going to 22 cities, over 8000 miles, over 40 classes and workshops, and you guys, at the time we're recording this, two cities are fully sold out, with two other cities so close to being fully sold out, and the other cities are like half sold out. So you cannot sleep on this. You must, you must, you must, snag your spot now at opc.me/tour. Yeah. Before we get into Ericka Nicole's amazing interview, what is our audience question? Brad Crowell 9:24  Sorry, Ericka Nicole Malone.Lesley Logan 9:27  Yeah. Ericka Nicole Malone.Brad Crowell 9:27  I do all three.Lesley Logan 9:28  I do all three. That's right, because she's got that name. It's so good. Brad Crowell 9:32  All right. Kira on IG asked hey, I live in Germany. How do I buy the OPC flash cards?Lesley Logan 9:39  Yeah. So here is the deal, we have tried extremely. Brad Crowell 9:43  Well. First, let's ask. Let's just answer the question. You can buy them from Amazon. You can buy them from our website. Now, the shipping from the United States. So, it may cost a lot. Someone just bought some who lived in Singapore, and they spent $96 on shipping. So they actually bought all the decks. Lesley Logan 9:59  I actually thought it was cheap, not bad for shipping to Singapore. I mean, I expected it to be a lot, but I also was like, oh, that wasn't the worst. I mean, to Australia, I saw a deck. One deck was, like, a $65 shipping. I'm like, the deck is $49. Brad Crowell 10:11  Yeah. So, so here's what we recommend. The best thing you can do is get together with a whole bunch of friends and buy a bunch of them at the same time, yeah. And that way we can put them all in the same box and ship them all the same time. Lesley Logan 10:23  We had a whole group of people in Brussels buy about 30 different decks together, and so it the shipping actually was not that bad for that many decks, because it's a lot, and then it goes up incrementally, but not incrementally a lot, just like a little bit, I guess it's what incrementally means.Brad Crowell 10:41  That's, yeah. Anyway, the point is there's power in numbers. And what Lesley was saying at the beginning, before I cut her off, is that, yes, hopefully someday we do have some kind of distributor over in Europe. We don't actually have one at the moment, so.Lesley Logan 10:54  Brad is convinced that if you all call Sissel.Brad Crowell 10:57  Yeah, S-I-S-S-E-L.Lesley Logan 10:58  And if you are in Europe, you know what that means, Sissel.Brad Crowell 11:00  Yeah, they're the distributor. Lesley Logan 11:01  And you tell them, why aren't you carrying the OPC flash cards, OnlinePilatesClasses.com, flashcards, preferably with the email and pictures. And if you do it in numbers, they might actually email us back, because we have tried. Yes. This is why I'm putting you on blast. We have tried.Brad Crowell 11:01  Yeah, for a year. Lesley Logan 11:04  More than a year, Brad, I think you started the conversation two decks ago. Brad Crowell 11:22  Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, that was in England, though. Now we're in the German group. Lesley Logan 11:26  Yeah, yeah. At any rate, we would love to have a distributor out there, but we don't. The other thing that could happen is some amazing studio who has a retail area that loves and enjoys buying things at a wholesale price and then reselling them, they can reach out. We do have minimums and then you get different discounts. We have someone in Australia, Pilates Nerd Down Under, she does that. And then in Canada, we have b.Pilates, Melissa Nagai. And those two help out the countries that their businesses are in, because the shipping is not when you buy, like we said, a big box, shipping is not so bad. And so, yes, they're a little bit more per deck than if you bought from us, but then you're not paying the crazy shipping.Brad Crowell 12:11  You're not paying the crazy shipping. Lesley Logan 12:11  Yeah, so there's that. Thanks, Kira. I hope you get them. Make sure you send a picture. Do you know we had someone buy all of the decks who lives in a Oman?Brad Crowell 12:21  I did not. I missed that. Wow.Lesley Logan 12:23  I know. I got a picture. Brad Crowell 12:25  That's amazing. Lesley Logan 12:26  That's amazing. It looks so beautiful. Brad Crowell 12:27  So cool. Well, thanks for supporting us. Thanks for supporting a small business and Lesley's creative work here, where she's passing on all that information. Stick around. We'll be right back for our chat about Ericka Nicole Malone. Brad Crowell 12:41  Alrighty, welcome back. Let's talk about Ericka Nicole Malone. Erica is a powerhouse in the entertainment industry. As a writer and producer, she brings to life compelling plays, films and TV shows. Beyond that, she's a lifestyle expert, offering valuable insights on fashion, beauty, health and personal development, helping others live their best lives. I think she also used to be a model. Her latest project.Lesley Logan 13:03  She should be. I mean, she's so beautiful. Brad Crowell 13:04  I think she was, I think that was part of her career in the past. Her latest project, The Bucket Wish, is a documentary that chronicles her inspiring journey towards living her dream life. And I think it was like, actually a bunch of challenges that she had given up on when she was younger and decided to go back and revisit, such as learning how to swim, such as, can't actually remember what the other example was. Lesley Logan 13:30  I think she's playing a new instrument. Brad Crowell 13:32  Oh. Flute. Lesley Logan 13:32  Flute.Brad Crowell 13:33  That's what it was. Yeah, yeah. So stuff like that. Lesley Logan 13:35  I mean, it's impressive, because I tried the flute and I could never, I couldn't do the. Brad Crowell 13:40  You can't do the what? Lesley Logan 13:41  Don't they have to do this?Brad Crowell 13:43  How's it? How's it go? If you're watching on YouTube, you're laughing along with me, all right.Lesley Logan 13:52  But am I right? That's what they do. They pull their bottom lip in. Brad Crowell 13:55  Yes, it is.Lesley Logan 13:56  Do they bite their bottom lip? Brad Crowell 13:58  No. Lesley Logan 13:58  They just have to pull it in. Brad Crowell 13:59  Yes. Lesley Logan 14:00  That's exhausting.Brad Crowell 14:01  It's a muscle. It's a muscle.Lesley Logan 14:03  It's not about me. But Ericka Nicole Malone is learning it, so I think that's impressive. Brad Crowell 14:07  All right. So about The Bucket Wish. This is different y'all from The Bucket List, which we know from the amazing movie. And of course, a bucket list, a bucket wish, is a list of personal aspirations and goals that individuals aim to achieve during their lifetime. So aspirations and goals, not necessarily things you want to have done, encouraging immediate action and fulfillment rather than postponing your dream. So bucket list, this is a cool way of thinking about, actually, the parallel here is like, be it till you see it, versus fake it till you make it. So I think that the bucket list is like, I'll put it on my bucket list and hope I get to it someday where a bucket wish is like, we're taking action and we're actually gonna do this now.Lesley Logan 14:47  That was a great parallel, babe. I cosigned to that. One thing that I loved was that she talked about, you can build confidence in your and having a yearning and a sense of wonder. And I think that that is a wonderful way of describing how to get confident. More confident in things. Because I think a lot of us go, oh, I can never do that. And then we wonder why we don't have confidence in things. But if you have this yearning to learn and a sense of wonder, you actually can kind of hold, suspend reality for a second and see yourself doing the thing, or learning how to do a thing or potentially, like it's a be it, it's another way of being till you see it. And I love that idea of getting confident by just having a sense of wonder, because you're not holding space for I could never do that. Brad Crowell 14:47  Yeah. So, so there's an interesting, this is interesting. How do you get a sense of yearning and wonder so that you can build your confidence? Lesley Logan 15:27  That's a great question. Brad Crowell 15:38  Yeah. So Lesley and I did a course a couple years back now, where we did the book called The Artist's Way. Lesley Logan 15:46  Oh yeah, it was so fun. Brad Crowell 15:47  And I felt like that was really strategic and approachable for how do you get curious? How do you get that sense of wonder? How do you actually build that back into your life, if you don't feel like you're curious today or have a sense of wonder today, part of the homework that we had to do was go out and try new things once a week, for like twelve weeks. Lesley Logan 16:08  By ourselves. Brad Crowell 16:09  By ourselves. You had to do it alone. Lesley Logan 16:11  Yeah. Maybe you went walking outside with your shoes off. Brad Crowell 16:14  Yeah. And it was, you know, just trying all sorts of different things, and it gave you a different perspective of the normality that we've created in the lives that we repeat over and over again. Instead of that, what if you were trying new things, right? So I think that's a great way to start creating a sense of wonder because once you put yourself back in this place of curiosity and experiencing life, when you see something else, maybe you will have a sense of wonder and yearning. And Ericka is suggesting that that will also bring confidence as you start to go experiencing (inaudible).Lesley Logan 16:46  I have one more. I have one more takeaway, yeah, sometimes you don't know that, if you just jump into the something new, what will be on the other side? And I think always, you don't know when it's new, what'll be on the other side, but.Brad Crowell 16:56  What will be on the other side of climbing through a cave and a hole that's about two feet wide.Lesley Logan 17:03  I mean, I did that, but you guys, I don't understand but.Brad Crowell 17:05  What was on the other side? Lesley Logan 17:07  More bats, more bat poop, big spiders. And I did that while also hoping I didn't shit myself. I was sweating from the humidity, sweating from the humidity, and sweating, those of you who have ever had like, a day where you're just like, oh my God, I'm gonna have diarrhea, that chill, that sweat, that you get, that clamminess, that's what I was climbing through a hole in a cave to another. I'm like, how far is this going to go? Are we going on the other side? I'm gonna have to poop with the bats. At any rate, you don't know, but I'm gonna call on Chris Goodman here, when we first learned from him, we had that fear episode with him. He's like, wWhat if on the other side of the fear is exactly what you want? And so I just want to put that together with what Ericka Nicole Malone said, which is, like, you jump into something new, and on the other side you might get what you want.Brad Crowell 17:59  How about that. I love it. I mean, imagine if we took conscious action towards the thing that we want, instead of self sabotage, of unconsciously not taking the action because we want this thing, but then we don't take action on it. Lesley Logan 18:13  And also, like, I just want, like, since we're talking on the day of the election, I mean, it's possible that you've tried new things before, and like been slapped in the face. Right? We can all remember what 2016 felt like, and so it's possible that you're playing small or your fears, they're very valid because of your past experience. But if you don't give yourself the opportunity to jump into something new to see what's on the other side, you will always have a fear-based life without enjoying what you want. Brad Crowell 18:47  Yeah, that's well said.Lesley Logan 18:50  Thank you. Your turn. Brad Crowell 18:51  Okay, so I really loved when she was talking about belief. She said believe in your own projects and in your vision. And she also said coupling that you have to protect yourself, okay? And this is kind of an oldie but goodie, but you're always going to have naysayers in your life. You're always going to have and maybe those people are your friends and family who are trying, thinking that they're looking out for you, but really they're just putting their own fears on your vision. Lesley Logan 19:17  They also might be total assholes, like I.Brad Crowell 19:19  They could totally be assholes.Lesley Logan 19:20  They're, I definitely believe you. If you tell me your family is full of assholes, I'm going to believe you, because sometimes they are, and I'm so sorry, but you're hopefully avoiding them for a reason. So why are they taking that space in your life? Brad Crowell 19:32  Yeah, so anyway, protect yourself. Protect your heart. She said, steer clear of people who are consistently bringing negativity. Talk to people who will get behind you instead because they believe in you, and that's going to give you encouragement and then confidence as well. She also said you won't be able to sell anything that you're making if you don't believe in it yourself. It's not that everything is about selling, but maybe your thing is and you made this awesome script or this awesome play or whatever. Like she did. Lesley Logan 19:33  Or you want music or a book or poems or a class or a workout style, like anything that you've created and put together, yeah?Brad Crowell 20:08  For people who are in our lives that we have to engage with who are negative, she had some quick advice. She said just keep it short. Just keep it short. Lesley Logan 20:17  I know it's like, well, that is such a simple and genius advice. Brad Crowell 20:22  You know, we know who those people are in our world, and we could still be cordial and kind to them and not engage.Lesley Logan 20:28  Yeah, every day I go to a park, and there are very cordial people that have something to say every day about how I'm wearing shorts. They say it every time, and I sure they mean, well, it's for their religion that they're trying to push on people, and I just keep it short. I'm like, oh, it's a windy day, ladies, make sure you go. Stay warm. Keep it short, and I can still be nice. Yeah. I still smile Brad Crowell 20:54  Totally. Lesley Logan 20:54  Yeah. You've been there. You saw. Brad Crowell 20:56  Oh yeah, yeah. They're very nice, too. Yes. All right. Well, hey, stick around, because in just a minute, we're going to talk about those Be It Action Items that we got from Ericka Nicole Malone. Brad Crowell 21:05  Okay, finally, let's talk about those, Be It Action Items Say it with me, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Erica Nicole Malone? She said, hey, be kind to yourself. Just start with that.Lesley Logan 21:21  Oh my God, that if you if you actually were honestly kind to yourself, just see what happens.Brad Crowell 21:28  Yeah, it's, you know, I had this really interesting conversation with someone recently about guilt, and I think that the pathway out of that is being kind to yourself. Oh, yeah, because I grew up in that world and. Lesley Logan 21:42  You grew up in a world where they made you feel guilty or shameful? Because there's a difference.Brad Crowell 21:47  Guilt. Lesley Logan 21:48  So they didn't say you are this. Brad Crowell 21:49  No, it was if you do this thing, it will be bad, right?Lesley Logan 21:53  I wonder. We have to ask Brene Brown if that falls in the shame category. Brad Crowell 21:56  No, it's guilt. And so the problem is that you might not take the actions, but you still think things right, and then that creates guilt, right? Feel guilty for how come I thought that, man, I must be a terrible human so even if you're the most perfect goodie Two-Shoes, you still have a mind, and you're not necessarily sharing everything that goes through there, right? So. Lesley Logan 22:17  There are so many cults that actually this is a thing. If you think the thing, you have to go confess to thinking the thing. And that is, keep going, keep going. Brad Crowell 22:25  Yeah, well, that's the first step. I think of unfucking that mess is kindness to yourself, because we are human and our brains are impressionable. We watch movies, we see things that are terrifying, we see things that are sad, and our brains are creative, and they just make things up and they do stuff. So I'm grateful that I have the filter of being able to process what my brain is thinking before acting on it. I also think that is a little bit of a learned behavior. I remember my mom saying, think before you speak, but you know.Lesley Logan 22:56  Oh yeah, they must have the same parenting book.Brad Crowell 22:59  But, but I think that the first step of just being confident is being kind to yourself. Lesley Logan 23:05  Yeah, yeah. So I really loved and it's another simple but totally difficult make clear goals for your life, clear goals for your life. So not this bucket list of someday I'll jump out of the plane. Clear goals. What do you want? Really think about it. And if you can't figure out what you want, think about how you want to feel and what you want to, maybe, what's his name? Storybrand guy. Donald Miller.Brad Crowell 23:32  Donald Miller.Lesley Logan 23:33  You know he's like, do your, write your eulogy. You're giggly. Brad Crowell 23:38  You're googly? How about you googl-ize it?Lesley Logan 23:42  Yeah. So you can think about that. What do you want people to say about what you did? And that can help you figure it out and then make clear goals based on that. And I think that that is one of the hardest and most important, and also kind of a simple Be It Action Item, when you think about it, but most people don't have their goals. They're just going through every day is the same as yesterday, just doing it.Brad Crowell 24:11  Yeah, they're trying to make things at least three times as big. Lesley Logan 24:14  And by the way, if that's you, then go back to be kind with yourself, because you can stop that. You can stop the hamster wheel anytime. Yeah. Anyways, I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 24:25  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 24:26  Thank you, Ericka Nicole Malone, for being on the Be It podcast. We cannot wait to see The Bucket Wish documentary. Super exciting. All the other work you're doing. You guys, how are you going to use these tips in your life? We want to know. Make sure you tag Ericka Nicole Malone. You tag the Be It Pod. You share this with a friend, and until next time, you know what to do, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 24:26  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 24:47  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Lesley and Brad recap inspiring conversation with boudoir photographer Shayla Pelton, exploring how her unique approach to photography encourages individuals to reclaim their confidence and embrace their true selves. Together, they discuss the powerful role self-care and energy work play in self-empowerment—and why a boudoir photoshoot can be an empowering gift you give to yourself.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The impact of boudoir photography on self-confidence and self-acceptance.The therapeutic benefits of seeing oneself through a professional lens.How small self-care habits can lead to improved mental well-being.The importance of releasing generational trauma and cultivating personal growth.Highlights of the upcoming OPC tour and its mission to foster community within the Pilates world.Episode References/Links:Cambodia February 2025 Retreat - https://crowsnestretreats.comFlashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlistPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorOPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tourEp. 5 Amy Ledin - https://beitpod.com/ep5Ep. 421 Dr. Louise Swartswalter - https://beitpod.com/421Ep. 175 Keri Ford - https://beitpod.com/ep175Ep. 388 Lauren Zoeller - https://beitpod.com/ep388Ep. 298 Michael Unbroken - https://beitpod.com/ep298 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! 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I think I should do one. Brad Crowell 0:05  I'm in. Lesley Logan 0:06  I know you are. Brad Crowell 0:08  Sign me up.Lesley Logan 0:10  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:51  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to. What are we doing? Brad Crowell 0:57  We're digging into the boldly confident convo that Lesley have with Shayla Pelton in her last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that, go back and listen to it now or don't, but we think you should, because it's a great episode. Lesley Logan 1:10  She's so fun. Brad Crowell 1:11  She's great. Lesley Logan 1:12  She's so sweet. I don't know why all of a sudden I forgot the script. So, thanks, Brad, thanks for having my. Brad Crowell 1:17  Oh, I got you. Lesley Logan 1:18  Okay, guys, Today is November 14th 2024 and it's Loosen Up Lighten Up Day, aka LULU day. Brad Crowell 1:24  LULU. Lesley Logan 1:24  And I chose this because we're recording this before the election. We are after the election, and we have no idea what shenanigans are happening around in some shitty places, so we are loosening it up and lightening up, just in case. Brad Crowell 1:35  We're LULUing. Lesley Logan 1:36  If you've been looking for a break from all of your stress and troubles, Loosen Up Lighten Up (LULU) on November 14 is perfect for you. This day presents an opportunity for you to take a break from your usual busy schedule and all the stressful thoughts and instead focus on just being happy and relaxed and having fun.Brad Crowell 1:36  I mean, I think this is very appropriate, because I have a feeling a lot of shenanigans are happening right now. Lesley Logan 1:59  I know. LULU day is our cure for burnouts and breakdowns. I just love that line. It's like a, it's like a medication. LULU is your cure for burnouts and breakdowns. Brad Crowell 2:11  I'm LULUing. Lesley Logan 2:12  You guys, we don't, we don't know, but we have a feeling that we all need a LULU today. And you know, so at any rate.Brad Crowell 2:19  The only thing I can say that makes me confidently LULU is that one of the two candidates raised a billion dollars in the last quarter and has money to fight legal battles. Because that's the shenanigans that are probably happening right now. Lesley Logan 2:32  No one, no one. Here's the thing. Everyone's like, what is your hobby? And I, we never tell them. And clearly what it is is we are deeply involved. We are ridiculously involved. And if you didn't know that, Brad even more so because he listens to world podcasts that I just don't have the time to take in all of that. But we know the names of too many people in too many places, and the district and the court numbers. We know all the different court levels, district nine, we know too fucking much. And so we are trying to LULU around here. Brad Crowell 3:01  We're LULUing. Lesley Logan 3:01  Yeah. Anyways, our Cambodia retreat we just got back from we were so relaxed. The relaxation is gone, but our lives are changed forever in the best way. And I can tell you, having the memories of Cambodia to reflect on and these weird times is fucking great. It's so great. It's amazing. I have to look back and go, wow, that was fabulous just to be on the other side of the world and not actually be thinking about what is going on back home. It's a way to LULU all the time. It's so wonderful. It's so fabulous. And so we want you to come with us, because you will LULU as well, and you will get to see amazing temples, and we'll do breath work, and we'll have great breakfast and great lunch and great dinner. And then we (inaudible). We find ourselves at a lovely bar sometimes together. We do nightly massages. One night there was 14 of us getting a massage together. So, you know, and not, like, with, like, not in the same room, (inaudible) but yeah. So you should be, you should come, crowsnestretreats.com is where you're gonna get your tickets. Brad Crowell 4:04  Yeah, crowsnestretreats.com. Lesley Logan 4:05  Join us for February. Don't go I'll go next time. Oh, this, you will always have an excuse not to go. I promise you, you'll be so happy you went, and you will change your life. Brad Crowell 4:13  It's true. Lesley Logan 4:14  And now I'm even closer to my little week-long excursion living in LA to get ready and do the accessories photo shoot. The Accessories Deck is our sixth deck in all of the flashcards. If this is your first time listening, you probably have no idea what our flashcards are. We have Pilates flashcards and you, too, can get some. Brad Crowell 4:32  And you, too. Lesley Logan 4:33  The Accessories Deck is the sixth deck in the series. And then from here, Brad gets to design the collector's box. So for those of you who thought you weren't gonna get a discount when you bought all six, I promise you, you're not. I promise you, Brad is going to figure out a Harry Potter like, collector's box. Brad Crowell 4:49  Yeah. The flashcards come with a magic wand. Lesley Logan 4:52  I don't like to be involved in the design of this box. I just would like to say, because I do think it should have a way to, like, pull the card out.Brad Crowell 5:00  Oh no. I think it's gonna, like be a glass display case.Lesley Logan 5:03  But it needs to, so you you will see all the cards, all the boxes, beautifully, but then there needs to be a way for you to have a card of the day, or like this week's exercise. There needs to be a way. Brad Crowell 5:14  To put one card, feature a card? Lesley Logan 5:16  Feature a card. I mean, that could be cool. And then what would also be cool is a little hidden hook. So if someone is doing those little drop pouches, they could hook that on and it could, like, they (inaudible) with their workout on it. Brad Crowell 5:27  Yeah, we're asking a lot of our display case here. We'll see.Lesley Logan 5:30  This is, we're in the design phase. We're in the design phase. Brad Crowell 5:34  LED lights inside. Lesley Logan 5:36  All the different colors?Brad Crowell 5:37  Maybe. We'll see what we can figure out.Lesley Logan 5:39  All the OPC colors? Brad Crowell 5:40  I don't know. I don't know. We'll figure it out. Lesley Logan 5:42  What if it's just, what if it's a disco ball and it is like.Brad Crowell 5:47  All right, well, if you have ideas, we'd love to hear them.Lesley Logan 5:51  Is there a site for, like, display cases? We got to figure this out. Anyways, we will work on that. After the sixth deck is done, I'm doing the photoshoot, go to flashcard waitlist opc.me/flashcardwaitlist and that will get you on the presale waitlist, the secret waitlist, and only the people on the waitlist get the presale invite. That's how it goes. Brad Crowell 6:07  That's true. Lesley Logan 6:08  And our goal is to get the presale out sooner so we beat the hurricane season. Okay, Brad, take it away. Brad Crowell 6:14  Okay, cool. So I want you, if you are a Pilates business owner, what (inaudible) Lesley Logan 6:19  That's the way the bear says only you. Brad Crowell 6:21  I want only you, stand up and serve your country.Lesley Logan 6:26  That was, yeah, very much so.Brad Crowell 6:28  If you are, if you have a Pilates business, if you take clients at all, big, small, medium, long time, short time, not yet time but know you're going to take clients in the future, I want you to come join me for a free webinar called the Pilates Studio Growth Accelerator, where Lesley and I have boiled down three of the the biggest things that we've learned in how do you actually move the needle with your income? Okay? So if you're feeling stuck at all with like, I've been at the same income level, I thought I was going to be able to make more money, or I thought I was going to be able to have the life that I always wanted when I worked for myself. We can get you unstuck. Come join me for this free webinar. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O, dot biz slash accelerator, and come check it out. We're gonna be, we're gonna be hanging out. It's only an hour long, and I'll get you a In-N-Out before your class.Lesley Logan 7:22  There's only a couple opportunities before you go on winter tour. Brad Crowell 7:26  That's very true. Lesley Logan 7:27  So take advantage of that while it's happening, because you don't want to wait until the new year and then start the new year late, guys. So opc.me/tour, is where you get your tickets. But we're going to 23 cities. We kick off on December 6th. And we start in Sedona, then Oklahoma City, then we go to Memphis, and then to Huntsville, and then we go to Greensboro. Brad Crowell 7:51  Atlanta and then Greensboro. Lesley Logan 7:52  Oh Atlanta, Greensboro, DC. Brad Crowell 7:55  Hershey, Pennsylvania. Lesley Logan 7:56  Virginia Beach.Brad Crowell 7:58  I think that's on the way south. Lesley Logan 7:59  Oh, it's on the way South? Brad Crowell 8:00  Yeah, because I think it's too close to DC, so I think we go Virginia Beach on the way down. Lesley Logan 8:04  Okay, so then it's Hershey, then it's Portland, Maine, then it is Boston, Cape Cod, Providence, Greenwich, then it's Virginia Beach, then it's Charleston, South Miami, Tampa, Pensacola, New Orleans, Austin, Dallas, Lubbock, Phoenix. I don't think we skipped any this time. Brad Crowell 8:28  I think we got them all. Lesley Logan 8:29  I did Oklahoma City, yeah, okay, we're great. 23 cities, over 40 events. So many are sold out. Brad Crowell 8:34  Almost 50 events, yeah, they're literally already selling all out, y'all. So if you are just hearing about this now, go to opc.me/tour and jump on this, because. Lesley Logan 8:49  Pilates lovers of all levels. If you're brand new and you've just been Pi Curious, come, come, come. Come join us. Brad Crowell 8:55  Well, I'm just excited. I can't believe how. Lesley Logan 8:58  How excited everyone is. Brad Crowell 8:59  How excited, yeah, the vibes are strong, okay? So come, don't sit on this, because there might not be anywhere left.Lesley Logan 9:06  And also, if you're like, oh, I work at this studio and you're having other studio, get your ass over there. It's called community, okay? Brad Crowell 9:11  It's called community, y'all. Come across the road. (inaudible)Lesley Logan 9:14  Yeah. Do it because here's the deal, no one's gonna be like, oh, my God, that's like, working in that studio. They're gonna be focused on I'm there. Okay?Brad Crowell 9:24  Yeah. Well, it is true. Lesley Logan 9:25  They're actually focused on I'm there and we're gonna have fun. And I'm tired of people feeling like, oh, I can't do that. They teach like this. I can't, I don't teach like that. It. Brad Crowell 9:34  Nobody gives a shit. Lesley Logan 9:35  No one does because it's called community and I am on a mission to make sure Pilates lovers meet each other all over the place, and we have so much fun, and it's quite like reunions, and you'll see people you haven't seen in a long time. (inaudible) So come, come, come, bring your friends. All right, that's opc.me/tour to get your ticket. We do have an audience question. Brad Crowell 9:53  We do. Lesley Logan 9:54  It is in your text messages, Brad.Brad Crowell 9:56  It is, it is. The question is actually from @SL4081, how is the MOTR Core Balanced Body equipment for Pilates?Lesley Logan 10:09  I think it's like the MOTR piece of equipment for Pilates. I think that's what they're asking.Brad Crowell 10:13  For Pilates. How is it for Pilates?Lesley Logan 10:16  Like, how is it used for Pilates, maybe?Brad Crowell 10:19  (inaudible) I feel like I'm missing a piece. Lesley Logan 10:20  Well, you know. Brad Crowell 10:21  How is it for Pilates? How does it work for Pilates?Lesley Logan 10:24  I mean, they clearly took a lot of time taking. Brad Crowell 10:25  How is it official for Pilates? Lesley Logan 10:26  They took a lot of time on that YouTube name Brad, the details for this. Okay, so here's the deal. I need to be really honest with you guys. I've been on a MOTR. I am not certified in a MOTR. I am not trained to teach a MOTR, and I don't. So I can't rave about it the way that my friends who are trained on the MOTR rave about it. So I'm gonna give a shout out to SuperKate, Erika Quest, I think even teeny_pilates on Instagram there's one more. Oh my gosh, sweet girl who isn't the OC anyways, so there are tons of people who are truly trained in teaching on the MOTR, and that is who I would really pose this question to. I am a classical Pilates teacher, which means I kind of just play on my classical equipment, and I know a lot about that. What I will say about the MOTR that's really cool is you can do a lot of movements that are in Pilates using the MOTR and it doesn't take up a lot of space. You could not use the MOTR on OPC to take a reformer class. You can't do that. Or you can't do that for a Pilates Anytime class, you can't. Brad Crowell 11:27  Well, it's not a reformer. Lesley Logan 11:28  No, but people do reformer moves on it, just like they do mat moves on it, just like they do bar moves on it. So there's a lot of similarities there. But if you buy a MOTR, you need to take MOTR classes. That's what you just have to do. So if you want a MOTR, my discount works for that MOTR. Brad Crowell 11:43  It does. Lesley Logan 11:44  And then you can reach out to me and I'll connect you with one of those few girls that I just mentioned, and they will teach you. Brad Crowell 11:49  I love that. Lesley Logan 11:49  So I'm so sorry. Clearly, I don't know all the answers, but if you have a question, you want me to take a stab at it, or Brad to take a stab at then you want to send in your questions. You apparently can call us, we say the number somewhere in the credits. So listen to that, or just send it to me on Instagram or YouTube. We get them there, and then we'll answer your questions here.Brad Crowell 12:08  Yeah, you can text us at 310-905-5534. Stick around we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 12:13  Okay, let's talk about Shayla Pelton. Shayla is a passionate boudoir photographer based in Arizona, dedicated to helping individuals and couples cultivate self love and elevate their mindsets. Inspired by her own experiences and the transformative power of photography, she believes that everyone, regardless of age, body changes or life circumstances, is beautiful and deserving of celebrating their unique selves. We had the pleasure of meeting Shayla in person at James Patrick's event, the last event that he hosted for that series. I can't remember what it was called. Lesley Logan 12:49  You guys had to listen to that episode, but he is such a fascinating man. We are at the event. It's a last day. Everyone's having the best time, and he's like, we're never doing this again. And I was like, oh god, okay, that's one way to end a run, but we did get to meet her in person. And she is such a she's like a little firefly, but I mean that in the best way, she lights up wherever she's at, and she's really excited. I just really loved we had a great time talking with her. And I was like, I have to, I want to have her on the Be It Pod. And I told her you have to pitch yourself. Because that was what's it about. That was what the event was about. So I couldn't just invite her on, she has to pitch herself, and she wrote me a great pitch. And what I loved about this.Brad Crowell 13:29  Well, she came from a career in retail, and really wanted to work for herself, and has been a photographer, and was always passionate about it. And we got super fired up for her, because we love entrepreneurialism, and we absolutely believe that you can make money working for yourself, and there's no reason that you can't make money being a photographer, as inspired by James, he does the same thing. And so it was really cool to meet her and be able to encourage her. And then also, well, basically, we were there helping people cultivate their pitches and to figure things out. So it was great to challenge her a little bit, and then she pitched us, and we said, this is really awesome. Great job. Lesley Logan 13:32  Well, we haven't had a boudoir photographer on the show. We've we have brought on Dr. Celeste Holbrook, and we've brought on Nikole Mitchell, and we also just had Dr. Jordin Wiggins, who is a pleasure coach as well. And so we've had people on who talk about, oh and Kelli Adame like pleasure and receiving and all these things. But if you don't feel sexy, like we have a big jump, that's a hard thing. And so I really like what Shayla does, because the boudoir photography used to just be like the gift you gave your future husband, like some weird gift to the wedding, but it can really be for you, and that's what we got to talk about.Brad Crowell 14:32  I think that's my biggest takeaway, is that boudoir photography isn't necessarily about sex. Lesley Logan 14:50  No, I think it's actually about confidence and seeing yourself in the most beautiful way that you exist in and no matter your body type or scars you have. I follow her on Instagram, and I see the different women she photographs, and they're fucking all stunning. I'm like, I want to look like that. Like it's just so fun, because the camera catches you at this, she's so good at catching your true light, and you're showing things, and it's just great. And then you get to see yourself through that lens. I was talking to my client, (inaudible), today, and she's like, I don't see myself every day, so I don't think anything has changed. I think you should take a picture. I don't like to take a picture of myself. Okay, well, I'm looking at you and you have changed. So either I'm going to be the person who tells you that you have to believe me, or you take a picture so that, because we see ourselves every single day, we don't realize the changes that are happening. And so I really love it. Lesley Logan 15:42  Anyways, boudoir photography is about reclaiming your sexuality. Everything about us is different. Everything about us is worthy of love. And so even though it's not about sex, we shouldn't be ashamed of the sexuality that we have, because it's part of who we are, and it's part of that charisma and that charm, and also, ladies, it's fucking awesome and okay to have sexuality and sexual desires and enjoy pleasures and that's why I keep bringing these women on and telling you to do that, because the burnouts and breakdowns you're having, they're having, I bet you maybe a little pleasure and a little enjoyment. But if you don't think that you are sexy or you're not confident in that way, I think a boudoir photoshoot could be a really great gift to yourself. And if you hate it, throw it away. You won't. You just won't. You'll just really think they're cool.Brad Crowell 16:27  Yeah. And I think that that was an interesting thing, where she talked about, you know, I think the questions you asked her were really helpful for people who are, like, boudoir curious, where it's like, I'm not ready for that, or what is it going to be like? Or, I don't know, but what other questions in that way. But what was really great is that the preconceptions that people have about boudoir photography is that you have to be sexy, you have to be hot, you have to be all the things. And Shayla talked about how that is not reality. That is actually not at all what it's about. You don't have to show up performing for the camera. It's actually when you get to know her and the two of you have conversations, she's gonna work with you to bring that element out of you. And no matter what you're wearing or not wearing, or how ready you feel, she's gonna help you get to that place. And she said, I love that she intentionally doesn't doctor up the images all over the place, because she's going to capture the beauty inside of the person that she's photographing, and doesn't have to add all this extra stuff to it. And I just thought that was really cool. Lesley Logan 17:40  Yeah, I mean, I'm a big fan, and now I think everyone should go do a boudoir photoshoot. I think I should do one.Brad Crowell 17:47  I'm in. Lesley Logan 17:48  I know you are. Brad Crowell 17:51  Sign me up. Maybe I should do one. Lesley Logan 17:53  Okay. Brad Crowell 17:54  I'd be down. Lesley Logan 17:59  Okay, let's, we'll figure this out. We'll work on it. It'll be a 20 20, what's next year? 2025. We'll put it on the list. Brad Crowell 18:05  Well, she said on embracing your true self, we never see ourselves in that beautiful vulnerability, because we always have our shields up, right? Only people that we are most intimate with ever see us in those moments. And she explained that when we look at ourselves in the mirror, we don't feel that sexy or that fun or that fire, but we all have it. We all have it. We just don't always let ourselves see it.Lesley Logan 18:07  You're so busy thinking about I got these 17 things to do today. I got these many things to do today, and then your partner comes in and they're like, all they're seeing you all sexy, and you're like, oh my God, my brain is in the wrong journey. But that's the thing.Brad Crowell 18:16  And having a photo like this is an incredible way to remind yourself. Lesley Logan 18:45  That you are. Brad Crowell 18:46  That you have it, right, and it's a moment, but I can't remember who we were talking to, who said they write down their wins on a note card, and when they're feeling down, they pull out the note card. Was that all the way back to Amy Ledin? I think it was.Lesley Logan 19:02  My mom's favorite episode, she, and in the two and a half years I've been doing this podcast, guys, my mom only likes episode five. Brad Crowell 19:10  Now that is not true. Not true. Lesley Logan 19:12  She still quotes it. Brad Crowell 19:13  She still quotes it, but she likes more than episode five. But seriously, this is like that where if you're struggling with confidence, you can pull out this photo, and even if it's only for you, you still have this, this moment where you're like, I am a rock star, and I love that. I think that is, I think that's necessary. Lesley Logan 19:33  Yeah, I agree. I agree. Brad Crowell 19:34  Yeah. All right, stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 19:37  All right. Finally, let's talk about those, Be It Action Items. Say it with me. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Shayla Pelton? Lesley Logan 19:49  I think you know what I want. Brad Crowell 19:50  Tell me. Lesley Logan 19:50  I want our listeners to record themselves saying that and then we can use their recording. Brad Crowell 19:57  That'd be fun. Lesley Logan 19:57  Just like Keith Olbermann has his friends introduce like and now here's Keith. We can have different listeners, yeah, we can have different listeners send in themselves saying, what bold executable, intrinsic or targeted steps?Brad Crowell 20:11  Okay, I love this, and I really love this, y'all. Call our number and leave us a voicemail of you saying, "What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo?" And we will take those clips and we'll start to put them into the show. Lesley Logan 20:29  I think that'd be so fun. And if that's too long, you could also record yourself saying, "Until next time, Be It Till You See It."Brad Crowell 20:36  Yeah, that too. That too. So 310-905-5534. Hit us up. Okay.Lesley Logan 20:42  (inaudible) was like, what's going on? Why are people emailing us this? Brad Crowell 20:47  No, just call it. We won't answer. Just leave a voicemail, and then we'll get the voicemail. Lesley Logan 20:51  It's probably important to know we'll never answer. Brad Crowell 20:53  Well, that number is intentional that we're, I'm not picking that number up, but it's there for people to leave a voicemail. Lesley Logan 20:59  You could answer it. We just don't, because it's for voicemails. Brad Crowell 21:02  Yeah, my phone fucking rings. I don't answer it. Lesley Logan 21:04  (inaudible) way too much. Okay, well, just so we, call a different number if you want us to answer, but leave a message.Brad Crowell 21:09  Okay, so she said, book yourself a boudoir session. That is the Be It Action Item that you can take. You can do this. All you gotta do is the first step, which is book that session, whether that's with her, with Shayla, or with someone else. Do it for you. She has people fly into Phoenix to work with her,by the way.Lesley Logan 21:27  We definitely have amazing recommendations for where to stay in that area, too, so. Brad Crowell 21:31  We do. There's also an incredible botanical gardens that you should see while you're in town. Anyway, she said you should book this for yourself, because you are worthy. You're worthy today. You're worthy right now. Lesley Logan 21:43  You don't have to send us the picture, but you do have to tell us now if you do this. Brad Crowell 21:46  Yeah, yeah. Also, she said, prioritize yourself by taking small moments every single day just for you. And she had personal experience with this where she said, when I started to work my yoga practice in for myself in the morning, I actually became an incredibly better person, and I performed better at work, and it was just better all around and she's talked about getting her nails done and being intentional about taking care of herself. So prioritizing yourself, and this is something that I'm sure you've heard Lesley talk about, self-care isn't selfish care. And when you prioritize yourself, you are going to show up better in every other aspect of your life, every other element of your life, for the people that you are intentionally taking care of or serving or working with, or your clients or your family or friends, whatever it is, when you prioritize yourself, you are going to be a better you.Lesley Logan 22:39  Yep, I love it. I'm in on that. She also said, put time into energy work and releasing generational trauma and healing in your own family. And I think this is really important, because we can try to, like, I just have therapy, but we don't always release the actual energy of that. And so I'm gonna highlight episode 421, with Dr. Louise Swartswalter, who will release like she's not gonna release my great grandfather shit. And you know what? I think I worry less. So that's really great. And I don't remember Lauren Zoeller's most recent episode, but Lauren Zoeller does somatic releasing work, and that is a great way to get rid of some of that trauma through energy work. We had Keri Ford, who's a somatics coach, who did that. Brad Crowell 23:18  Lauren is episode 388. Keri Ford, 175.Lesley Logan 23:24  Yeah, yeah. So anyways, I'm sure we've had other people, but those ones I remember. So do this because.Brad Crowell 23:31  We have Michael Unbroken.Lesley Logan 23:32  Oh. Don't tell him I didn't. Michael's episodes are really, he's working with mostly men now, though. So that (inaudible) that's kind of why there's lots. Brad Crowell 23:41  He's episode 298. Lesley Logan 23:43  No, I think we're good. I think that's plenty. We don't need to overwhelm them with trauma. They just need to do it. So here's the thing, if you don't, it doesn't, you can't shove this in like a closet and then never look at it again. It's gonna rear its ugly head. So do the work. Brad Crowell 23:57  Do the work.Lesley Logan 23:58  Because it makes a huge difference. And especially if you're a parent, it affects who you are for your kids to see, and it really does make big changes, so. You guys, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 24:07  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 24:08  Thank you so much for being here. Shayla, thank you for being amazing. I can't wait to hear how many people get some boudoir shoots. I really am excited. I think everyone needs a photoshoot. And I think a lot of people don't have pictures of themselves that they like because they don't have a professional take pictures of them. Your friends and family are never gonna take the most amazing picture, like Monica Linda would or Shayla would. You know, you just need a good photographer. I love all the pictures that professionals took of me. I mean, Brad's great too, because he's also a professional but I like theirs too. So go do it. It'll change your life. It'll help you Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 24:08  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 24:41  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 25:24  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 25:29  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 25:33  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 25:40  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 25:43  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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From the archive: This episode was originally recorded and published in 2021. Our interviews on Entrepreneurs On Fire are meant to be evergreen, and we do our best to confirm that all offers and URL's in these archive episodes are still relevant. Michael Unbroken is an entrepreneur, best-selling author, speaker, podcaster, coach, and advocate for adult survivors of childhood trauma. Top 3 Value Bombs 1. Asking for help does not equate to weakness. Asking help from others will help you grow and succeed. 2. Human connection is imperative to build a community. 3. You are not alone. The difference between success and failure in your life is to start asking for help. Get your copy of Michael's number 1 Best-Selling Book: Think Unbroken plus check out his The Think Unbroken Masterclass - all for FREE - Think Unbroken Sponsor HubSpot: Get ready for growth, without the growing pains. Visit HubSpot.com/spotlight to see the dozens of major product updates that'll make impossible growth feel impossibly easy

From the archive: This episode was originally recorded and published in 2021. Our interviews on Entrepreneurs On Fire are meant to be evergreen, and we do our best to confirm that all offers and URL's in these archive episodes are still relevant. Michael Unbroken is an entrepreneur, best-selling author, speaker, podcaster, coach, and advocate for adult survivors of childhood trauma. Top 3 Value Bombs 1. Asking for help does not equate to weakness. Asking help from others will help you grow and succeed. 2. Human connection is imperative to build a community. 3. You are not alone. The difference between success and failure in your life is to start asking for help. Get your copy of Michael's number 1 Best-Selling Book: Think Unbroken plus check out his The Think Unbroken Masterclass - all for FREE - Think Unbroken Sponsor HubSpot: Get ready for growth, without the growing pains. Visit HubSpot.com/spotlight to see the dozens of major product updates that'll make impossible growth feel impossibly easy

In today's episode, Brandon decides to jump into his time machine and share an episode from 2021. Michael is a mentor, trauma coach, podcaster, and author who is dedicated to helping trauma survivors get unstuck so that they can learn to love themselves and ultimately heal. In this episode, Michael and Brandon discuss victim consciousness, the importance of asking for help, the truth that we are our own saviors, and how we are always only one choice away from changing the trajectory of our lives.   Care to play a game with the youniverse? Ask the universe the episode you would most benefit from hearing next and click positivehead.com/game.  Download The Golden Key audio or e-book at GoldenKey.Gift with the Code: POSITIVEHEAD

In this episode, Morgan sits down with trauma expert and coach Michael Anthony, also known as Michael Unbroken. Together, they dive deep into the impact of childhood trauma on our lives, particularly how it can hinder our success in business and personal relationships. Michael shares his harrowing story of growing up in a chaotic environment, facing homelessness, abuse, and addiction. He discusses the importance of recognizing and addressing past traumas, and how our interpretations of these experiences shape our self-worth and beliefs about what we can achieve. Episode Highlights: 00:00 - Episode trailer 03:54 - The Concept of Being Unbroken 05:34 - The Influence of Beliefs 14:02 - Misconceptions about Trauma  19:37 - The Journey of Transformation 20:32 - Identifying Stuckness 23:26 - Identifying Stuckness 26:03 - No Excuses, Just Results 34:57 - Taking Action to Change Life 37:29 - Generational Impact of Punishment 41:05 - Power of Creation 45:28 - Dealing with Internal Barriers 48:36 - Overcoming Shame and Guilt 51:09 - Identifying the Work in Healing 54:59 - The Importance of Life Beyond Therapy  57:41 - Realizing Priorities  About my guest: Michael Anthony “Unbroken” is the visionary founder of Think Unbroken, an international award-winning speaker, best-selling author, and esteemed trauma coach. As a prominent influencer in mental health, Michael empowers individuals to overcome the self-doubt rooted in childhood trauma and transform their lives. With nearly a decade of experience, he has guided thousands—from entrepreneurs to Fortune 100 executives—through profound personal transformations. Featured on platforms like Apple TV's Office Hours and Grant Cardone's 10X bootcamp, and with appearances on numerous podcasts, Michael's impact is widespread. His #1 best-selling book, Think Unbroken, and the acclaimed Think Unbroken Podcast, which boasts over 4 million downloads, underscore his commitment to ending generational trauma through education and inspiration.  Connect with Michael Website: https://www.thinkunbroken.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/michaelunbroken/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC95YX4cZdz39HHIaLZYFsGA Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MichaelUnbroken Become a globally recognized Trainer and Speaker in just 90 days! https://www.speaktoleadblueprint.com/speaktoleadblueprint Want to manage your life the same way that helped me make $1 million by 28 and travel the world at the same time? Grab my FREE one-page Life By Design productivity planner below ⁠https://planner.morgantnelson.com/optinplanner Join the Dream Out Loud Facebook Community https://bit.ly/49QXClW Follow me on Instagram here https://www.Instagram.com/morgantnelson Subscribe to my YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@morgantnelson

Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell recap the conversation with Matt Gerlach, an entrepreneur and breakthrough consultant focused on men's mental health and well-being. This recap explores the impact of unhealed trauma on loved ones and the critical role parents play in modeling self-care and teaching children the importance of boundaries. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why microchipping is essential for pet safety.Expansions to OPC fitness decks and where to purchase.How to embrace imperfection and self-acceptance.Impact of unhealed trauma on family members and future generations.The essential role of parents in teaching boundaries to their children.How to break the cycle of generational trauma and foster healing.How to take control of your life with goal-setting strategies. Episode References/Links:Barrels Deck FlashcardsOPC Summer TourCambodia February 2025 RetreatOPC $40 for 40 DayseLevate Mentorship ProgramPilates Studio Growth Accelerator Program 6-Step Guide to Creating Your Dream Life with Matt GerlachMatt Gerlach's PodcastLauren Zoeller Episode 388  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  To think that you are less than and then you just have to be better. And once you're better, then things are better. Actually, the more you love and accept yourself, the better all things are.  Lesley Logan 0:11  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 0:53  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the growth-oriented convo I had with Matt Gerlach in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now and go back to listen to that one. And then come back and join us.Brad Crowell 1:11  Yeah.Lesley Logan 1:11  What a sweet guy. I like him a lot.Brad Crowell 1:13  It was a super thoughtful interview. Lesley Logan 1:14  Yeah, he's super vulnerable and authentic. Brad Crowell 1:18  That's how he described himself is he said he wasn't always vulnerable. And I mean, it definitely if that's something he intentionally worked on, it comes through in that interview. It was great. Lesley Logan 1:30  Some coaches in that space could be like a look at me. Look what I've done, you know, like just do it my way. And he's definitely like, I'm on this journey and here's what's helped me. And it's more of a guide. And I really appreciate that about him. So today is August 15th, 2024 and it's Check the Chip Day. Brad Crowell 1:47  That's right. Lesley Logan 1:48  About this day, Check the Chip Day is celebrated annually on August 15th. It's that time of the year when we raise awareness regarding the importance of microchipping. Brad Crowell 1:56  Microchipping. Lesley Logan 1:57  Which greatly helps in reuniting missing pets with their owners. In fact, every second a pet family pet is lost with only one in 10 ever being found. Every second a family pet is lost and only one in 10 are ever found. There's a fucking lot of seconds in a day. So on one tenth. Oh my god. This is very depressing.Brad Crowell 2:17  That's why we're raising awareness. Check the Chip Day.Lesley Logan 2:20  Approximately 10 million pets are lost annually.Brad Crowell 2:23  Ten million.Lesley Logan 2:24  Microchipping provides peace of mind to pet owners as it confirms the safety of their beloved pets. Gone are the days when pets were kept in cages now, they can be free and out of harm's way. Okay.Brad Crowell 2:34  Yeah. Okay. So FYI, they, I, I tried to figure out the best way to check your chip. Okay. Cause if it's Check Your Chip Day, how do we do it? Ultimately you need to have a special RFID reader and your cell phone can't do the job. So there are a couple of apps that connect to a reader, but you got to buy the damn reader first. So I really went down the rabbit hole on here. Basically, take your, take your dog to the vet, get the chip read, right? Get that number. And then here's the, here's the problem. You might have a chip, but the chip still has to be registered with a system.Lesley Logan 3:11  And also a lot of people don't update their contact information. Brad Crowell 3:16  They almost never do. Lesley Logan 3:16  So they move things like that. I follow one of the rescue, dog rescues out here and after the 4th of July, they got in 400 pets in a day, 400 pets turned in, most of them had chips. And so, first of all, if you do find a pet, go to a vet, just drive to a vet and have it checked, do not go to a pound and things like that, because some of those are kill shelters, and if they, even if they have a microchip, they have a limited space, so take them to a vet, and then that way they can scan the thing, and then they can hopefully contact someone, but everybody, you need to update. Brad, are ours updated?Brad Crowell 3:55  Yeah. Lesley Logan 3:57  Okay.Brad Crowell 3:57  Yeah, there's a couple of different databases. You can just search for pet, you know, pet chip databases or microchip databases. Cause it depends on the chip. Sometimes the chip depends on the database. Like for example, we have two of our dogs are in one database and then one is in a different database. But they need to be in a database.Lesley Logan 4:15  Oh, cause we had two dogs in California and one in Nevada. Brad Crowell 4:17  That's right. Lesley Logan 4:18  So also another way you can do this, you guys, we have them chipped and we have them, what do we call these things?Brad Crowell 4:24  Air tagged. Lesley Logan 4:24  Air tagged. Brad Crowell 4:25  Yeah. We also put air tags on ours.Lesley Logan 4:26  And we have air tags and they have these cute little things that go on their collars and the air tags are great because whenever we get out of the van on tour, it goes, you've left three items behind. So it's always August. It's like, you've left. It's like, he's right here. Like, don't panic me about the one that runs off.Lesley Logan 4:34  You've left your item, Gaia, behind.Lesley Logan 4:46  Yeah. So anyways, do both, double dose it.Brad Crowell 4:50  Yeah. Double dose it. So next time you go to the vet or even just go to that now.Lesley Logan 4:56  I would not wait. If you have no idea, if you're sitting here listening to us going, I wonder if mine is like, don't, you'll be so pissed if in three days, your dog gets out and then you're like, they told me, it's like, yeah, we did.Brad Crowell 5:09  Handle it. All right. Here's what's coming up in events and travel. A summer tour. We are on the road right now. As we speak we are probably leaving St. Louis and driving to Kansas city. By the time you're listening to this we have. Today's the 15th, tomorrow the 16th. We're in Kansas city on the 18th. We're in Colorado Springs, Colorado. If you are in either of those places and you want to come hang out go to opc.me/tour, opc.me/tour. That's it for the summer tour at this point, and then we're going to be doing a winter tour leaving in December but we're still working on all the specifics for that. So right now, the last two stops are going to be Kansas City and Colorado Springs. After that, we are still taking applications for elevate. That's Lesley's mentorship program. It's a Pilates mentorship program. It is nine months long. It is an amazing opportunity where Lesley gets to pass on all the information she learned from her teacher, Jay Grimes, who literally studied with Joseph Pilate. He taught all the stuff he knows. Lesley Logan 6:10  Pilate? Just Joseph Pilate? Brad Crowell 6:11  Just Joseph Pilate. Just Joseph, one Pilate. Lesley Logan 6:14  He's one Pilate. Brad Crowell 6:15  Yeah, he only has one. Joseph Pilates and he, Jay, passed on all the information that he knows to Lesley. She's literally been working with him for 12 years. Something like that. 10 years, at least 10, more than 10. Lesley Logan 6:27  Yeah, yeah. Brad Crowell 6:28  Yeah. 12 years. You're super young, babe. I love you so much. And she gets to pass on all this information. Go to lesleylogan.co/elevate. You'll be able to say that you're classically trained. You're going to be a third generation teacher. You're going to be able to connect all the dots for all the different pieces of equipment. It's going to help you with class planning. You're not going to talk as much when you teach. It's going to be great.Lesley Logan 6:46  I think the official would be 10 years, guys. Brad Crowell 6:48  Ten. Lesley Logan 6:49  Official. Yeah. Yeah.Brad Crowell 6:50  She's still doing the math all right. It's all right. Lesley Logan 6:52  I just want to, I don't want to lie, you know.Brad Crowell 6:54  We don't want you to lie. Okay. So, then, we are going to Cambodia in February 2025 crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com. Y'all know it's my favorite thing to do of all the things that we do. It is an amazing experience. It is incredible trip. We're going to go romp through the jungle. We're going to eat great food, local food. We're going to do some Pilates. We're going to meet up amazing people. It's a journey and it's an incredible journey and we want you to join it with us. Come stay at our house, crowsnestretreats.com. All right. You want to take the next two?Lesley Logan 7:26  Yeah, because I want you to be an OPC member. You guys, it is one of the best places to do your Pilates because guess what? You can do Pilate, you can do your Pilates anywhere you can lay down and OPC is, I know you're like, I won't do it online. I have to go to a place. You can still go to a place and you can be an OPC member because here's the deal. You need to do more Pilates than you think. Once a week isn't going to cut it. Our classes are 30 minutes long, but finishing is optional. And we have monthly classes that are 50 minutes long. We hold you accountable because classes do disappear, but as of last month, you actually have the weekly classes access for two weeks for each class. So each week we drop a new class. But you have access to this week's class and last week's class. Don't you like how creative those names are? This week's class and last week's class. Yeah. And one of our teachers today was like, if you're like, Oh my god, I'm overwhelmed. Which one do I do? She closed her eyes and she hits click. So there you go. Thanks, Christine, for that. So opc.me/40 gets you 40 days of OPC for $40. You can quit if you don't like it, but hey, you might love it.Brad Crowell 8:28  You might just love it. Lesley Logan 8:29  And by the way, it can be part of that 2 percent of every day you dedicate to you. And then if you are a Pilates instructor and you are feeling like your business is just not making the money that you want, then I want you to join Brad for our free webinar. It 's called Accelerator and it's really amazing because by the way, there is money in Pilates and you can make it and you are capable of doing it. And no, you don't have to do crazy memberships or do wild things on social media. Brad Crowell 8:56  Grow a million followers. Lesley Logan 8:58  There's a path for every single person to make the money they want to make, especially when you have, when you're armed with the knowledge on how to do it. So go to prfit.biz/accelerator prfit.biz/accelerator.Brad Crowell 9:09  That's profit without the O prfit.biz/accelerator.Lesley Logan 9:14  All right. We're going to get into this episode with Matt, but before we do, we have an audience question.Brad Crowell 9:18  We sure do. Esta Zero on YouTube says, Hey you've been talking about these flashcards. Where do I find them?Lesley Logan 9:27  Yeah, I was like, oh, this is an easy question. You guys, you just go to onlinepilatesclasses.com and if you go to the shop, it'll say flashcards. Brad Crowell 9:36  Yeah, or you go to opc.me/flashcards. That'll also do it. So directly to the spot.Lesley Logan 9:40  And right now, this episode is coming out. You'll have access to four decks of the five we've worked on so far. The fifth one is the Barrels deck and that one is, I think you can buy it, you just have to wait. That one will be out probablyBrad Crowell 9:56  Barrels will be shipping in Lesley Logan 9:57  September, October? Brad Crowell 9:57  Eight to ten weeks from, yeah, next week.Lesley Logan 10:01  Yeah. So, yeah. So we're probably looking at like Brad Crowell 10:03  we're probably looking at like timber. We're looking like Lesley Logan 10:05  October. Brad Crowell 10:05  Yeah, beginning of October.Lesley Logan 10:07  But also here's fun news. The mat deck got a makeover. Brad Crowell 10:12  It sure did. Got a facelift. Lesley Logan 10:14  Yeah. Facelift. It got fillers. We got more exercises in there. Brad Crowell 10:21  That's great. Lesley Logan 10:22  It's actually youthful. Cause it got, it went from its vintage vibe to other rebrand that is so  Brad Crowell 10:28  It's hip, young and cool now. Lesley Logan 10:29  Hip, young and cool. And it has standing exercises in there. We have more prep exercises in there. It's just really, really fun. So if you haven't got the mat deck yet, you should get this new one, which is probably shipping like as we speak, because it was eight weeks ago, four weeks ago, so it's probably in three to four weeks still, but. Yeah. It's happening.Brad Crowell 10:51  Yeah. We're talking end of August.Lesley Logan 10:53  It's a little beefier, but still that same great feel that will fit in your gym bag. We'll go on a trip with you. All the good things. So you can get those. Also. Oh my god. I left the cat out of the bag right now. We are reprinting the Reformer Deck and I added the related mat exercises to the Reformer Deck. Brad Crowell 11:11  What? Lesley Logan 11:12  I know.Brad Crowell 11:13  So we've also given a facelift to the Reformer card.Lesley Logan 11:16  It's a tiny one. Micro lift, a mini lift. It was a mini lift. Brad Crowell 11:20  It's a lash extension. Lesley Logan 11:21  Yeah. That's really what it is. You're correct. You are so correct. And then because because my team, it just wants to finish this, the flashcard project. I'm already working on deck number six.Brad Crowell 11:35  It's only been five years. Only.Lesley Logan 11:37  Four. Four. We came up with the idea in 2019, but I didn't write the mat deck until February of 2020 and then the pandemic happened. But in the later part of the pandemic of 2020, we released the Mat Deck. So currently it has been four official years.Brad Crowell 11:52  Okay. That's fair. That's fair. Four years. Five decks.Lesley Logan 11:54  But the sixth deck will be the fifth year. And then, oh my god, Meredith's like, maybe you do an expansion deck. And I was like, shh. You shut your mouth, you zip it.Brad Crowell 12:02  You just wait up. Hold up.Lesley Logan 12:03  You zip it. Cause I have some ideas of what I want to do with these cards. Like when you, I, I want it, I want, I wouldn't do like a text message that like sends you cards that like, it's almost like a tarot reading, but like the cards are laid out to like create an exercise. Brad Crowell 12:19  That could be fun. Lesley Logan 12:19  Isn't it fun like today's that you're reading today is this? We make it all like Shamany. Brad Crowell 12:26  All right. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Lesley Logan 12:28  Anyway, stop.Brad Crowell 12:29  If you, if y'all have any ideas on how you would want us to work with you on these cards.Lesley Logan 12:34  No, we're not making a digital deck. Brad Crowell 12:37  No, we're not doing a digital deck. Lesley Logan 12:38  So you can ask and it's.Brad Crowell 12:39  Although I, I have been tempted to do a, a full app that, that, that's interesting. That could be interesting.Lesley Logan 12:47  No, we have an app and they can watch the videos in there. No. Lesley Logan 12:50  They can't watch the videos. Lesley Logan 12:51  No. No, no, the cards are the way they are, but I may help people put building blocks together is the thing that I would be interested in doing. And since I'm the one doing it, this is what I want to do. So let me know if you like that idea and if your idea sucks. Keep it to yourself.Brad Crowell 13:10  Stick around, we'll be right back. Okay, now let's talk about Mr. Matt Gerlach. Matt is an entrepreneur, an author, and an owner of a breakthrough consulting business netting over a million dollars in annual revenue. He focuses on men's mental health and well being. Matt draws from his own experiences to guide clients through their struggles. His work emphasizes the importance of self-worth, setting boundaries, goal setting, and breaking the cycles of trauma. And generationally, too. You know, I thought it was really cool that he said, I'm the first one in my family to break this cycle, right? Super aware of that. And that's pretty cool. I think that's awesome. Lesley Logan 13:53  I know. It's really, it's really amazing. When he first, when we first met him and he spoke, I was like, wow, beautiful. He like, like his soul is beautiful. You know, like, it's just really, really amazing. So he said, there's never a destination when we're perfect. Like, like, there's just not like, like perfect doesn't get, you don't get to stop, you know? And so what he said is his biggest thing is that he, that he's ever done is he. Brad Crowell 14:17  I think he said, I think he said this. Lesley Logan 14:20  Yeah. Yeah. And if you're not watching YouTube, then you don't know what just happened. So that was not for the folks at home, babe. But we have a hat is really what it all is. That was a little of a merch, you know, thing. It's, 'Perfect is boring,' it's what the hat said. So he said the biggest thing he's done is to learn to love and accept himself in learning and loving this, to accept himself was to recognize that there's nothing wrong with him. And I really love that. You guys, there's nothing wrong with you. Like, you are enough. We have, oh, another merch.  Brad Crowell 14:52  Another merch.  Lesley Logan 14:53  We are, but who knew? I didn't know this today, but we have a sweatshirt that says, you are enough. You've done enough today. When you look at it in the mirror and then on the back, it tells the person behind you, you've done enough today. But at any rate there's nothing wrong. And I think that's really a hard thing because yes, of course self-growth and self-development is an amazing thing. There's always something you can learn about yourself. But to think that you are less than, and then you just have to be better, and once you're better, then things are better. Actually, the more you love and accept yourself, the better all things are. You know? You bring a whole different vibe to every group you're in, a whole different, you have less insecurity in conversations and so deeper conversations can happen. It's just really amazing. And so he also did talk about boundaries, you know, I'm a big fan of boundaries. And he said that it was because he really focused on boundaries and advocating for himself. He was able to take his business into a million dollar paycheck for himself. And that's also cool because most people think I gotta say yes to everyone. I gotta people-please. I gotta work all the time. No, I can't have boundaries because then people won't like me and then I won't make any money. And that's not true because he fucking made it work. Million dollar a year paycheck. I, yeah, I love that. Brad Crowell 16:01  Yeah. I mean, that's, actually, his story was that when he first started his business, he didn't have any boundaries. And his clients were like, flying him all over the place and he was doing all this stuff and he was getting really, he was building a lot of resentment when asked to handle things that he probably, my guess is, had advised against, they did it anyway, and he's like, what the fuck, now I have to clean up your mess and it was building a lot of resentment, and that's because he didn't have boundaries at the time. And then over time started to shift all that and change it. So, I mean, what an awesome thing to be able to help guide people through setting those boundaries you know, for his clients with his clients, really cool. One thing I loved, he said is that his mission, his, he talked about his mission, helping unhealed trauma. And he mentioned that trauma, when left unhealed, you think it's not affecting anyone or you think it's not affecting you, but it is, it's actually being passed to your loved ones. It's being passed to the people in your immediate circle. Whether you realize it or not, we are, we are passing it along and whether we're intentionally doing it or not, we are passing it along. So that was actually kind of shocking to me. I was like, never thought about that. He highlighted the time we're in right now where the word generational trauma is becoming a lot more prevalent. We're, we're becoming a lot more aware of it. And that's why I found this impactful is because my parents don't seem like they're traumatized people, but I definitely learned things from them that I had to choose to part ways with later on in my life. And it's taken me a long time to understand how I was thinking, why I was thinking it that way, and then make the decision to no longer think that way. Not to tell too long of a story here, but generally a lot to do with money and the way that I think about money. Was definitely, I adopted it from my, my parents. The irony is I never actually learned how to handle money. What I got from them was the emotional element of money. And it was negative. There's never enough money, right? Save every penny you got because you're never going to have enough money. And so I never learned. I learned how to save, you know, but I didn't actually do it. But I learned about that. But I didn't learn how money growth worked. And so it created this weird fear around it. And I don't think my parents meant to do that. That wasn't something that they, but it was, it was clearly something that, you know, they adopted, too.Lesley Logan 18:34  And also just speaking of what parents could do. So many parents don't make time for themselves because they're like, oh, I want to do things with my kids. Do you know the best thing you could teach your child is that you, boundaries. Like I, in the morning, I spend time with myself. You get to spend time with yourself and we all are allowed and all deserve time to go inward and think about ourselves. You want to, you want to pass something on, pass on boundaries.Brad Crowell 19:01  Yeah. I mean, imagine, I mean, this is one of the things that we encourage all of our OPC you know, clients to do is say, hey family, I love you so much. Right now is my time to practice Pilates. I'm only asking for 2 percent of my day and I'm going to do that right now. And when this is happening, I'm doing that.Lesley Logan 19:21  And also, do you want to know what else you can do? They can join you. They just can't talk to you. Brad Crowell 19:25  Right. Lesley Logan 19:25  So, Emily, our neighbor who we did our pop up at her store, I sent her a workout the standing workout from my YouTube channel and she posted, her friend and her doing the same workout. They've never done it before. Brad Crowell 19:39  Cool. Lesley Logan 19:39  They're following along with me. And guess what? One of their daughters just came right up and just started doing right behind them. Brad Crowell 19:44  That's so cool. Lesley Logan 19:45  Didn't interrupt them. Didn't say, hey, can I have this? Like just started doing it because. Brad Crowell 19:49  I love that. Lesley Logan 19:50  They are an example of like taking care of their selves and like, that's important. And so kids just catch on to these good things and they'll catch on to the shit too.Brad Crowell 19:59  Yeah. I love that. When you don't address trauma you are passing it on. And he's, he said he emphasizes the importance of negotiating goals and making achievable plans, focus on goal-setting with his clients, also articulates their goals and overcome limiting belief. And he said, it's really being able to take control over your life and realize that you have agency in building the life that you want and making changes. You know, we totally agree. That's exactly why we created our coaching program, our fitness business coaching program, which is called Agency. It is on purpose. You know, so couldn't agree more. Love that. And there's so many bunch of different ways you can process trauma.Lesley Logan 20:39  You can also reach out to Matt and see what options he's offering and also Brad Crowell 20:43  Actually he is offering a 30-minute call to work with him. Lesley Logan 20:47  Yeah. Brad Crowell 20:48  So, and, and here's, here's the thing, you know, it was working mostly with men, but I'm sure he'll take your call too.Lesley Logan 20:54  Yeah, I'm sure he will. And also like, if you're listening to this and you have a man in your life, send them this episode because you don't have to be the one to tell them what to do. They can figure it out for themselves.Brad Crowell 21:03  That's true. But, we'll tell him, hey, your wife gave you this episode on purpose so that you can book a call with Matt.Lesley Logan 21:10  We could just tell, we just do that. Well then thank your wife. Brad Crowell 21:13  Thank you, wife. Lesley Logan 21:15  Happy life. Happy wife. There you go. Brad Crowell 21:17  Stick around. All right, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Matt Gerlach? He said, just to keep going, you need to stay on the journey and celebrate the small wins along the way. Perfectionism is a very real thing. We've talked about perfectionism so much on this pod. I loved in his three steps that he was talking about. Perfectionism was like number one and he said, you got to let it go. And he said, it's probably the hardest thing. So this is like, even though it's step one, it's still challenging to do. And ironically, I found it, I found it really funny that you said, I call myself a recovering perfectionist because I think the idea of. Getting rid of perfectionism is the perfectionist in me . So I'll call myself the recovering perfectionist. I agree. You know, like I'm also, I'm healed. I'm no longer perfect. Alright. Which is the perfect form of, like it's.Lesley Logan 22:18  That's just perfectionism. Yeah. I'm, by the way guys, I'm reading this book on perfectionism and it's irritating the fuck outta me . And I had written to the woman saying, I want her on the pod on. And I, if she comes on the pod. I, I have several questions for her because like, she's basically saying to own your perfectionism, but to let go of the malignant parts and like, keep the like healthy parts. And I'm like, but isn't that like being a human with like, like, isn't that just using your strengths? Like there are strengths that you're, I'm just like, I'm struggling with it. Anyways, I'm a couple of girlfriends are reading it. We're all texting about it. And I just, I'm like. No, I, I don't. She's like, I don't have to call yourself a recovering perfectionist. And I'm like, yeah, I do. And it's not like, I'm like, I'm not using it as like, oh, don't mind me. I'm recovering perfectionist. I'm not using that. No, it's just like, it's a reminder. oh, let that shit go. What basically, Matt's Be It Action Item, we got to let it go. Like that's, I'll let it go.Brad Crowell 23:13  And, and being vulnerable, you know, he said he said, listen, you know, something he's been working on for a long time. And he still feels like he's only penetrated 10% of this perfectionism wall that he has built around himself. So, you know, don't beat yourself up. But it's something, the more you focus on it the more aware of it you'll be and the easier it will be to go I'm doing it again, doing it again. So yeah, what about you?Lesley Logan 23:40  He said, you need to talk to someone about what's going on. And it's really true. Like things grow in the dark, like in the darkness, but when you shed light on it, like it can kill all that bad stuff. And shedding light on it is talking to someone and very, most importantly, he said, select wisely. And so here's the deal, like, absolutely, you can reach out to Matt because if he's not a person for you, I'm sure he has resources for you. So that's what I would do if we've had other guests on in a similar vein, like, reach out to them. These are people who have resources and they have ideas. We are, we are not people who do like, therapy or somatic work we just know people who do and so, but he, you have to select wisely because I think people go, oh, I tried therapy and it didn't work for me. There are so many different types of therapy. And there are soBrad Crowell 24:29  You just had a deep dive with Lauren Zoeller about somatics versus talk versus, you know. Yes.Lesley Logan 24:36  Yes. And there's like, people are doing EMDR. They're doing all this different stuff. So trust your, don't trust your gut if you're like, I don't know, this person's listening to me. I was my person. Go the next person. And I know that's hard. I know, especially when you are finally aware that you are trying to deal with your trauma and it's affecting your life negatively. We want it to like fix it tomorrow. And all of these people might have wait lists or like time, but just know that the fact that you've acknowledged you have this help and that you are on the journey to find someone. Do not let the first one or two people who don't feel like they're a great match, stop you from doing this. Keep searching, keep looking, it's, it's, it, you are worth it. And so use this free call. We have the link. Brad Crowell 25:19  Yeah, it'll be in the show notes. Lesley Logan 25:21  Yeah. So check it out. Go check out Matt Gerlach. Share this with a friend, share this with a dude in your life who we've had Michael Unbroken on and like other people, we've a lot of men in our lives who like, I think are really cool people like Matt, they've done work and they're on this journey and they're always uncovering themselves. They're always learning and growing. And so it can seem like that's what everyone is doing, but also like they did, they've been doing it for years and it took just the acknowledgement and the first step. So it is possible for the people in your life to take that first step. Sometimes as soon as ready, the teacher appears and maybe this episode or other episodes will help ready them. You know, they might hear something in his story that gets them to go, oh, hey, wait, that's me. That's not normal? You know, like that, you know, like you said, neither one of our parents were actually very like textbook traumatizing to us.Brad Crowell 26:13  I'm the problem. It's me.Lesley Logan 26:14  Yeah. But like, you know what I mean? Like when we think about like people like, oh, I like lost my parents and like, this person killed this person in front of me.Brad Crowell 26:23  It's not like my parents were abusive or anything like that. But still. Yeah. And, and actually he mentioned there's like, there's a, there's a big difference between big T trauma and little T trauma, right? Like if you went to war or there's some tragic incident that happened in your, in your life and your childhood or whatever versus like, you know, he, his example was, you know, maybe your uncle yelled at you for doing something stupid when you were a kid and you know, and that stuck with you. You know, and it's been affecting you all this time, subconsciously, that's like little t trauma kind of stuff. Lesley Logan 26:54  So, yeah. Yeah. So come on, take them up on that. You guys share this with a friend and until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 27:02  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 27:04  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. 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Episode Highlights: Being a Man of Your Word, Personal Responsibility and Self-Respect in Masculinity Taking Action to Create the Man You Want to Be, The Pursuit of Self-Respect and Productivity in Men, Brokenness in Masculinity, Importance of Facing Fears and Doing Hard Things Summary: This episode of the Awake & Winning Podcast really throws out the rulebook on masculinity! We are cracking open the conversation about what it REALLY means to be a man today. Feeling lost in a world without clear-cut rites of passage?  Drowning in outdated stereotypes? We got you. Join Kaylor and Michael Anthony “Unbroken” as we dissect the challenges men face, from family dynamics to the lack of strong male role models. It's time to rewrite the script! We'll explore how self-discovery, values, and integrity are the cornerstones of true masculinity. But masculinity isn't just about finding your inner compass. We'll also dive deep into the importance of taking action, facing your fears, and building rock-solid confidence. Takeaways:  Family systems and the lack of male role models can set boys up for failure in becoming men Self-discovery, values, and moral character are crucial in defining masculinity Being a strong, healthy, masculine man involves leadership, protection, and being a man of your word Personal responsibility and self-respect are key in becoming a strong, healthy, masculine man Building skills that solve problems is essential for men to become productive and develop self-respect Taking action and stepping out of comfort zones is necessary for men to create themselves and become the person they want to be If you enjoyed the episode, please be sure to take a screenshot and share it out on Instagram and tag @thekaylorbetts. Also, please make sure to give us a review and a five star rating if you're loving what we are doing! _____________________________ RESOURCES & LINKS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/michaelunbroken/?hl=en YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/@MichaelUnbroken Websites | https://www.thinkunbroken.com/ Book | Think Unbroken: Understanding and Overcoming Childhood Trauma Podcast | The Think Unbroken Podcast on Spotify  ____________________________ SPONSORS: Truly Tallow | https://www.trulytallow.com/ Use code “SUNNYBALLS10” at checkout for 10% off your order The Wellness Company | https://www.twc.health/products/bison-trifecta Use Code WINNING at checkout for 10% off your order _____________________________ IMPORTANT UPDATES: Check out the Awake & Winning Website | https://awakeandwinning.com/ Join the Awake & Winning Life AW-cademy | https://theawlife.com/ Join the Awake & Winning Business AW-cademy | https://theawbiz.com Join the Awake & Winning POD-cademy | http://yourwinningpodcast.com/ Follow Kaylor on Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/thekaylorbetts/ _____________________________

Michael Anthony “Unbroken” is a globally recognized speaker, award-winning podcast host, best selling author, and trauma coach, renowned for his profound impact on audiences on a global scale. With a compelling journey from homelessness to heroism, Michael has emerged as a beacon of resilience and transformation to inspire trauma warriors to overcome self doubt caused by overwhelming life experiences to break free, heal, and become the hero of their own story. As an award-winning international speaker, Michael Unbroken is celebrated for his dynamic presence and profound expertise in guiding individuals through the complexities of trauma and self-doubt. His speeches on overcoming self doubt, ending self sabotage, and healing from trauma resonate deeply, driven by his personal narrative of overcoming an ACE Score of TEN and his unwavering resolve to not let his past define his future. He is the creator and voice behind the #1 ranked "Think Unbroken Podcast," which has captivated over 4 million listeners across 125 countries. His engaging interviews with luminaries like Tom Bilyeu, Vishen Lakhiani, Tim Storey, Dr. Gabor Maté, and Dr. Caroline Leaf, provide transformative insights, making his podcast a cornerstone for those seeking empowerment and healing. Michael is also the best-selling author of "Think Unbroken: Understanding and Overcoming Childhood Trauma" and "The 8 Steps to Healing Your Inner Child." Through these works, he offers practical tools and insights that have guided thousands towards healing and personal growth. In addition to his speaking and writing, Michael leads the Think Unbroken Academy, an innovative educational platform dedicated to breaking the cycle of generational trauma. Here, he equips individuals with the knowledge and tools necessary for profound personal change, emphasizing the power of reclaiming one's narrative and becoming the hero of their own story. With his unique blend of empathy, expertise, and empowering approaches, Michael Anthony continues to be a highly sought-after speaker and mentor, inspiring individuals worldwide to embrace resilience, rewrite their narratives, and boldly step into their roles as heroes of their own stories. Michael Unbroken Listen to the Think Unbroken Podcast www.ThinkUnbrokenPodcast.com  Read Think Unbroken. #1 On Amazon  www.ThinkUnbroken.com/paperback @MichaelUnbroken @ThinkUnbroken Watch on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3opNURn  PATREON: patreon.com/brassandunity  - - - - - - - - - - - - SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS H.V.M.N - 20% off with code BRASS20 - https://hvmn.com/products/ketone Mindful Meds - 15% off with code BRASS - https://mindfulmeds.io Brass & Unity - 20% off with code UNITY - http://brassandunity.com  Three Horses Hat Co - 15% off with code BRASS - ⁠https://threehorseshatco.com/⁠ - - - - - - - - - - - - - SHOP B&U Jewelry & Eyewear: https://brassandunity.com  - - - - - - - - - - - - - Follow #brassandunity - - - - - - - - - - - - - CHARITY Honour House - https://www.honourhouse.ca Heroic Hearts - https://www.heroicheartsproject.org Warrior Angels Foundation - https://warriorangelsfoundation.org All Secure Foundation - http://allsecurefoundation.org Defenders of Freedom -https://www.defendersoffreedom.us The Boot Campaign - https://bootcampaign.org

Kel Cal, author, speaker, and host of the Dear Dumb Bitch podcast shares her personal transformation journey—from feeling lost and unfulfilled to creating a life she loves on her own terms. Kel opens up to Lesley about the importance of listening to your intuition, doing deep inner work to heal from past traumas, and taking aligned action to manifest your dream life. She explains why she left her marriage and moved to Bali, highlighting the power of following one's inner guidance. Learn ways to embody your future self, overcome limiting beliefs, and step into your power.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Kel's bold decision to leave her marriage and move to Bali. Practices to help break free from unhealthy coping mechanisms. How to create a strong foundation for self-love and transformation.Techniques to embody the changes you want to see in your life.Why Kel believes self-love isn't about striving to be someone new.Powerful exercises to help you embody and manifest your future self.Episode References/Links:Kel Cal's InstagramKel Cal's WebsiteKel Cal's TIkTokHow I Cured My Resting Bitch Face BookDear Dumb Bitch PodcastFabxEFT TappingKeri Ford Episode 175Guest Bio:Kel is a life transformation & empowerment mentor, author, speaker, & the host of the Dear Dumb Bitch, podcast. Kel helps people transform their lives by transforming the relationship with themselves, healing trauma, and reconnecting with their personal power. She also helps women navigate the aftermath of toxic relationships and use the experience as a catalyst to unlock your Highest Self. Kel was living what appeared to be her dream life but in reality was secretly miserable in an emotionally abusive marriage so she made the bold decision to leave her life in sunny South Florida and move across the country to restart her life in the rainy city of Seattle. She went broke overnight, didn't have a job, & was technically homeless, but she had a vision of a better future for herself so she committed to her own personal healing journey. Kel now lives in Bali, and her purpose in life is to empower people and share the message that you CAN have anything and everything you desire in life by healing trauma from the past, believing you are worthy of what you desire, developing unconditional love for yourself, and reconnecting with your personal power. She is incredibly passionate about teaching, inspiring others, and sharing tools and resources to help people stop settling, fall in love with themselves, and create a life they're obsessed with!  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Kel Cal 0:00  I feel like so often in life, we're living our life based on what we think we should be doing or based on what our limiting beliefs and self-doubt tells us we should be doing or should not be doing or cannot be doing. And it causes us to live the life that we're not meant to live. And we don't get to become who we are meant to become in this lifetime. Lesley Logan 0:22  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 1:03  Okay, Be It babe, get ready. This is awesome. This interview is just great. You're gonna hear how I met this amazing woman at the intro. So I won't repeat myself here. But also, I know I say I love the Be It Action Items. I fucking love the Be It Action Items on this one. It's just you're gonna love it. I'm so grateful for random acts of kindness and learning from other people. There's something really cool about this gig. And I hope that you enjoy this. I get to meet so many unique people and I meet them oftentimes as you're meeting them in your ears. But I find like,isn't it so cool that we can learn from other people's experiences and then recognize how those experiences are similar to something we went through, not the same but similar, and then we can learn something that they learn in their experience that we might not have learned in our own experience, or we did and we forgot. And so Kel Cal is our guest today. She's brilliant. She's beautiful. She's got a, she's got a great book that you're gonna want to check out. I'm buying it already. And she also has a lovely podcast called Dear Dumb Bitch and I am on that podcast and I just kind of love it. I love the title of it. Because as soon as I heard I was like, yeah, there's that. You know that (inaudible), what would you tell your like 24-year-old self? It's kind of like that. And we can learn from epic women. So go ahead and check that out after this. You can check out the podcast that I was on. If you love it you can go listen to binge out on all the other ones. But here, before, before you go there, here's Kel so you can get to know her and how amazing she is. And get ready for those Be It Action Items. Get ready, get your pen and paper out for those. Have an amazing day. Lesley Logan 2:37  All right, Be It babe. This is so fun. This has been a while in the making. And I just want to say like accept random acts of like connections. We, today's guests and I had a blind, like, Zoom date, which I feel like I haven't had since COVID. And we were introduced by a mutual friend and someone you know and have loved on the pod, Michael Unbroken. So we have this amazing conversation. I feel like if she lived in Vegas, we would probably hang out all the time. But she lives in Bali. Kell Cal will you tell everyone who you are what you rock at and why you live in Bali? Kel Cal 3:11  Yes, well, hello, thank you so much for having me on the show. I'm so excited for this conversation. And I just love the serendipitous introduction that we had, and there are no mistakes and no accidents in the universe like we were meant to connect. So I'm Kel. I am a Life Transformation and Empowerment coach, I am a bestselling author and speaker and podcast host. And yes, I live in Bali because my intuition told me to move to Bali and I have ignored my intuition enough in my life to know that I should never ignore my intuition. So here I am.Lesley Logan 3:46  One of my favorite crystal stores where I buy candles from, which, my listeners, I've tried to get an affiliate link for you. This, they don't want to work with me. But I will just tell you, it's The House of Intuition. They don't sponsor this and they're, all their boxes say your intuition led you here and I just love it. Like every time I buy candles, like, your intuition led you here. I'm like yes, it did, it lead me to buy the candle crystals. But yours led you to Bali. So we'll get into your book and your pod, of course, but I guess, like, you said you ignored your intuition before and then you listened to it to go to Bali. Can you tell us a little bit about that journey? Because I think a lot of us have ignored our intuition. And regretfully did that. It's easy, at hindsight, it's easy in 2020 of course, but what kind of led you to Bali?Kel Cal 4:33  Yeah, so we're actually conditioned to ignore our intuition because we live in a society where we are taught to live in our minds, to exist in our mind, and to disconnect from our heart, from our body which is disconnecting us from our truth and our intuition and the connection to the higher powers that be. So I lived most of my life just checking off all the boxes on the to do list of life. And then I found myself in a situation where, going back to like circa 2018, and I thought I was living my dream life because my life looked really amazing from the outside. I lived in sunny South Florida, I had this beautiful home that I remodeled to perfection. It was paid off. I had a successful business. Lots of money in the bank. I was married. I had four golden doodles, six-pack abs, perfectly styled blonde hair, I drove a Porsche, and I was miserable. And there was a lot of factors contributing to the internal misery that I felt one of which was I was in an emotionally abusive and toxic as fuck marriage. And it reached a place where I just felt like I was drowning every single day of my life. And I was because my soul was being suffocated. So I made the decision to not only leave the marriage, but to move across the country to restart my life in every possible way. And that was the beginning of my journey of self-love and self-discovery, like I literally proclaim to the universe, this is my journey of self-love and self-discovery. This is my second chance in life, this experience and all the trauma I endured is not going to be the worst thing that ever happened to me, it's somehow going to be the best thing that ever happened to me. And I began to realize that I was living my life based on external expectations and what I thought I should be doing. And I was checking off all these boxes on this to-do list of life, graduate college, get a job, get married, buy a house, all the things. And I realized this wasn't even my to-do list. And I feel like so often in life, we're living our life based on what we think we should be doing or based on what our limiting beliefs and self-doubt tells us we should be doing or should not be doing or cannot be doing. And it causes us to live the life that we're not meant to live. And we don't get to become who we are meant to become in this lifetime. So on my own personal journey of healing from the past of stripping away everything that was blocking me from my truth, I began to develop this connection with my intuition. And when we follow our intuition, and we trust our intuition, we are allowed to be guided to live the life that we're meant to live.Lesley Logan 7:07  So interesting, I love how you put like, this won't be the worst thing that ever happen to me, it's gonna be the best. I think that is such an interesting way to look at something. And I completely agree. It's funny when I've told people about like being homeless, or like, oh my god, I'm so sorry. I'm like, you don't have to apologize. Like, first of all, the first two were like outside of my control, the third one, 100% in mind, but I knew I needed to like get out of the situation I was in because like you, we live this perfect on paper, perfect on the outside. Social media wasn't yet huge, then I was like posting the sunsets. I wish I had the pictures because like, they were fucking beautiful sunsets a bit like, but it was. Like, if you came to a party at our house, you're like, oh my god, this is like the most amazing like you've-made-it-life in LA and with the most amazing, incredible views. And I was also so, so unhappy. And so in my head all the time. And I think we talked about this, it took me a fucking year to go, okay, I've been really done with this. We got to figure this out. So I feel like the best everything from that rock bottom because the actual, like, best thing that ever came. And you know what's interesting? You're in Bali. You guys must have lotus flowers, right? Like, you have lotus flowers in Bali? Kel Cal 8:11  Yes, yes. (Inaudible)Lesley Logan 8:14  In Cambodia, we go to a lotus farm, we take our retreaters to a lotus of farm. And the whole idea is that the lotus seed comes from mud. And the seed grows and the plant grows and it finds the top of the water and it actually blooms on top of the water. And the whole story is like it doesn't matter what your roots are, you can always have, you can always become beautiful. And I think that that's what, in air quotes, rock bottoms really are, is like the mud of which the lotus flower will come from? Kel Cal 8:38  Yes, yes, 100%. And actually, that's the reason I got this lotus flower tattoo on my wrist. I got it right when I left, the marriage moved across the country, and it was homeless went broke overnight, like literally every aspect of my life just changed overnight. And again, I was like, This is my mud. This is my rock bottom. But this is not going to be the worst thing. This is going to allow me to bloom and create this beautiful life where I actually love myself and I'm a priority in my own life. And I'm living my life. And I got this lotus flower tattoo when I began my journey as a symbol of my intention. And to remind me because it's so easy to forget when we go through the day-to-day or when we're experiencing the challenges, and we get feel like we're stuck in it. But I got this tattoo right on my wrist to have that visual reminder like no, this is the mud that is leading you to actually blossom and grow into who you're meant to be.Lesley Logan 9:36  Hmm. Oh, I love it. I love it. This is really hilarious and off topic, but we're just gonna do it. Most people don't know I have cherry blossoms on tattoo on my arm. And it's a cover-up I got right after I left my ex because I had this tattoo from when I was younger and I wanted to cover it up and the guy was like, well flowers are easy cover-ups and I was like I don't like any flowers but I think I like a cherry blossom and my friend who's a jewelry designer who designed my engagement ring. And a lot of the jewelry you see me wear, she's, she became very famous for her cherry blossom necklace. And so I said, I'm gonna get cherry blossoms because I love your jewelry. And I love that cherry blossoms like the one flower I think I could look at forever. And she's like cherry blossoms are a symbol of new beginnings. And if you think about when cherry blossoms actually bloom for a very short period of time, but it's at the change of the season from winter to spring. And so it's really just an incredible thing. So you guys, if you need new beginnings cherry blossoms, and if you need to be reminded of like the you're stuck in the mud, remember, you are a lotus. So that's beautiful. So Kel, okay, you have this beautiful life, you, overnight, changed all of it. I feel like it's very easy to kind of go back into some of the habit, I just want to say like for me, you can go okay, I know all the things, I'm gonna change my life. I'm not happy here, I'm going to just do it all differently. But was it? Did you find yourself like fighting with the old habits of the way you lived your life for the new ones that you're wanting to live in? How did you handle that?Kel Cal 10:59  Yeah, so not only did I bring all of the old habits and all of the baggage from the past with me, I actually then developed a shit ton of coping mechanisms. Because I did not have the resources to navigate the trauma I had experienced not just the trauma from the relationship, but also the trauma that led me to that relationship in the first place. And I literally thought it would be as easy as restarting my life in every possible way. Now, I did get support and resources when I first moved out there because I was a shitshow, like captain of the hot mess express. And rightfully so, I experienced tremendous trauma in the marriage and changed every aspect of my life overnight. And I was going to therapy and I was in a domestic violence support group. And I was like doing the things. But then I discovered mindset work. And that's really when I began to recognize that you can make changes in your life. But I also used that as a way to bypass the deep inner work and the deep inner healing that I needed to be doing. So I discovered oh, I can change my beliefs and I could really just think my way out except you can't think your way out because you have to feel in order to heal. So that's really when I began to develop a lot of coping mechanisms in the form of eating disorders, substance abuse, pretty much every kind of addiction, addiction to exercising and working out and productivity and all the things to really distract myself and numb myself from what I was feeling inside. So I reached this place where I realized that I basically recreated my life in Florida, except I recreated it in Washington. And again, I found myself, my life looks really good on the outside, but inside I feel like shit. I feel controlled except this time, it wasn't another person controlling me it was myself. And that's when I had yet another existential crisis where I'm like, oh, fuck, I'm the common denominator, which means I need to do the deep inner work to change. Lesley Logan 13:00  Yeah. So you know, you hear about toxic positivity. And I feel like people like learn words, and then they overuse them in the wrong way. You're like, look, I'm doing all the right things now. I'm doing all these like mindset things and I'm meditating, but you're not still in your head. You're just doing the surface. So it's the pendulum of the other side of the toxic relationship we're in. Now you're gonna send us the other version of it, where you're like, I'm doing, look at me, I did all these things. It's still look at me without the Porsche. It's just not, look at how mindful I am. Kel Cal 13:30  Yeah. Lesley Logan 13:30  When you talk about inner work, I think that's another like, phrase, like, or sentence people can hear. What does that mean? Like, what does that inner, deep inner work mean to you?Kel Cal 13:38  Yeah, I know, when I was, even when I first started my journey of like, self-love and self-discovery, I'm like, cool, but what the fuck does that actually mean? Like, what do you even do? And people talk about doing the work but like, what is the work? Like, what does that mean? So for me, initially, at the beginning of my journey, the journey of self-love and self-discovery, I started journaling, and I started really building the relationship with myself. And when I went deeper on this journey, it looked like inner child healing and looked like healing my nervous system using practices like somatic healing, it looked like actually meditating, it looked like using these other practices and modalities to actually go within and not look for the answer outside of myself, and also to really get honest about the energy that I was bringing to the healing journey, which is really the journey of transformation. And so often, we go on this healing journey viewing ourselves, like we're broken, and we're something that needs to be fixed. And that really is just reinforcing the underlying patterns that are keeping us stuck. So making the shift from I'm not broken, I'm actually this perfectly human that just needs to support myself in deeper ways.Lesley Logan 14:58  Yeah, I think that's, I think that's really, it's really true. And I think I love that you brought up somatics. I think a lot of people don't know about it, you know, they, they go to talk therapy, which is great. I have a couple clients who are excellent talk therapists. But there's also like, as a Pilates instructor, or there's like people who I've tried because I didn't like it, I'm like, well, maybe didn't like the teacher. And people like I tried therapy it didn't work, maybe didn't like the therapist or the therapy style. Like there's so many different ones based on like, what you need. And also like, what you need at the time, you know, like what I needed during COVID is very different than what I need today. And so I think it's important to kind of not just go oh, that didn't work for me. So nothing will work for me. It's there's, there's others who wants to do it. What are you most excited about now in your life that you've done this work? Or where do you find yourself continuing to go back to like, feel yourself and continue to make sure you, I don't want to say continue to heal yourself, but like, also continue to grow?Kel Cal 15:55  Yeah, so this journey does not have a finish line. And when I first found that out, I'm like, what a fucking scam. I'm not gonna, like cross this finish line one day, and someone's gonna hand me a trophy and say, congratulations, you're this fully enlightened and healed human. And that's actually not how it works. But you reach a place where all of these practices that you're doing just become a way of living. And it becomes this really exciting experience of discovering your shadows of discovering new parts of yourself that are holding on to pain and emotions from the past, and getting to understand them and build a relationship with these different parts of yourself, and to just continue to access more and more of yourself. So now, it's just a way of living life for me, and I actually love it to bits. It's like I say, my sole purpose in life is my soul's purpose, to discover more of myself and to expand because the more that we discover ourselves, the more that we get to access our own inner gifts, and then we get to share those gifts with the world. And that's how we get to create impact and support humanity. Lesley Logan 17:01  I think that's true. You remind me of a guest we had on Keri Ford, and she's like, it's like a mountain without a peak. And it's not that you don't ever stop and look around and like, see and take a rest. But there's, as we continue to get to know ourselves and continue to grow. There is another level of which you can take that information, you know, and so it's not like you are repeating kindergarten forever in the wellness place, space, but you are kind of just continuing to go through the next ascension, also relearning the things that worked for you in a new way because now you know more. As I've been doing Pilates for 20 years in my body. I've been teaching for over 15. And the other day, I was doing an exercise and I was telling my teaching mate, like, oh, I finally could straighten my leg in this exercise. it used to always make me feel unsteady to have a straight leg in this exercise, now I can. He goes, yeah, now you can lift the other leg up if you pull it in to your body. And I was like, what? I can't, like, just let me have a moment, sir. And but I did what he said. And I was like, oh, my god, there's a whole nother level. And now, it's changed everything I know about everything. Because I like hit this, you know, you just like have a new appreciation, understanding for something that you already thought you learned, but you're learning on a deeper level because you're ready for it.Kel Cal 18:23  Yes, yes. And that's really what it's about. It's about then taking what we've learned and actually embodying it. So it just becomes who we are. And that's how we actually shift our identity, we have to embody it. It's not enough to just think it, like, you are enough but thinking it doesn't change it because 95% of our life is our subconscious and that's in our body. That's what embodiment is, it's actually taking these lessons and making them truly a part of your being.Lesley Logan 18:52  Yeah, do you, as you were trying to get some of these lessons be part of your of your being, were they're like, did you put Post-it notes everywhere? Did you write? And did you write it over and over again in journal? Do you say it out loud? Like what was your way of embodying these lesson?Kel Cal 19:08  All of the above. All of the above, like at one point in my life, it looked like there was just a Post-it factory that exploded because I have Post-it notes all over. And even now, like, I feel like that's the best purpose of Post-it notes to give yourself reminders to remember who you are, because it's so easy to forget, especially when we just go through the day and we have all of these external triggers that are cueing different emotions and different thoughts and it's keeping us stuck. So the more that we can create reminders to remember who we are and who we are becoming, the more that we get to actually step into that version of ourselves. So affirmations, writing it. But the thing with affirmations is you have to actually feel the affirmations. You have to feel it because the emotion is the embodiment part. If you're just saying it out loud and going through the motions of I am amazing and I am enough like you're thinking it but actually feeling and connecting with the emotions of the affirmation is what allows you to truly connect with it. EFT tapping is another really powerful practice to allow you to access your subconscious and to really embody the version of yourself that you want to become and to reprogram subconscious beliefs. So that's been another powerful practice for me as well.Lesley Logan 20:23  Oh, very cool. Okay. Yes. So, on the pod on Fridays, I do FYF, which is Fuck Yeah Friday. And it's for my overachievers perfectionist to have a day where they actually celebrate something they did do, because there's always things that we didn't get done. But, and I have a million things to do before a trip, and they're not gonna get done. And, and one of the things I say around here, by the way, now we're making pod merch for it, which is like, you're enough, right? One of the things I say at the end of the day is like you've done enough today. That's enough for today. But we, so on those Fuck Yeah Fridays, I actually read off an affirmation. And I used to read it off and repeat it three times so that people could like, say it with me in their car while they're walking. And most recently, I started reading it three different ways. And the reason I did that was like I was like, well, if I read it, just read it straight, then it has no emotion, and people can put their own emotion to it. But then if I emphasize different words, then it can impact someone in a different way. And you guys, it impacts me in a different way. I leave my FYF recordings, like I'm on top of the world. I'm not gonna lie, but like, I do agree, if you actually feel those things, I think it's really true. And by the way, can we all just keep Post-its and, you know, in business with our affirmations? I think that's a really cool thing. So why go into a couple of things? First of all, people are gonna want to know how you got to Bali? Did you fall in love with it? Did you go there and like, this is the place I'm gonna live? Or did you just show up with your bags packed and like, here's when we do? And then how did that lead you to the book you're bestseller for and like, what you're doing now?Kel Cal 21:56  Yeah, so my journey first began in 2018, and that was like the first layer of it. And my journey was not this, like straight line trajectory, it took every possible detour that there was. And by detour, it means I had a lot of lessons I needed to learn to become who I am today. So I don't want listeners to hear this and think, oh, she left the marriage. And then she ended up in Bali. And it was just as (inaudible) transition.Lesley Logan 22:23  You know, she's gonna have a movie about it.Kel Cal 22:25  It was not that and I share all of those detours in the book because so often it's easy to see people on social media who are like living the highlight reel life and think that they've always lived that life and no, my life and my journey had many rock bottoms. And rock bottom is a great place to rebuild your life. Because you got to really look at what's not serving you. And you got to heal the parts of yourself that were using those various coping mechanisms. So I would say, like, my journey took the next level during COVID when I had this crisis of I was forced to be alone with myself as the entire country was because we had to quarantine. And that was my greatest fear of being alone with myself. And I'm like, oh, wait, there's a problem here. So that's really when I began to go deeper within the journey that I'm doing. And it was then that I discovered my true purpose and passion. So I was doing real estate at the time. And again, just kind of going through the motions. And I realized that I was not put here on this earth to sell houses, I could, I could do it really well, I can make a lot of money, but it's not my soul's purpose. And it doesn't give me the sense of expansion and fulfillment that I desire. So fast forward to it was July 2021, I am continuing to pursue my soul's purpose and passion of creating my online business to support other women on their journey. And I made the decision to transition out of my career in real estate to my new business and going full time in that. That same week, I was sitting on my couch in my condo in Washington State, looking at this girl's Instagram, and she's also an online coach from the U.K., but living in Bali. And I'm like, that's cool as shit. She's just living her life creating her dream business pursuing her purpose. And then I heard this voice say, "You could do that." And I'm like, what? Who said that? And I'm like, oh, wait, that's my intuition. And I'm like, I actually, I kind of could do that. There's literally nothing keeping me tied to Washington and I could just go across the world and move to a country I've never been to I had never been to Bali, but. Lesley Logan 24:38  I love this so, I love this so much like I'm just gonna move to Bali. I mean, like, it looks beautiful. So I'm just gonna go figure it out when I get there. Kel Cal 24:45  Yeah, I mean, I didn't even know, I didn't even know where Bali was on the map. Like, it wasn't even in my awareness. But I'm like, all right, I guess I'm moving to Bali. And then I had to really become the version of myself that could move to Bali and could move across the world to a country she's never been to. So that was the real preparation, I moved to Bali. It wasn't figuring out the passport and the visas and making reservations for where I'm going to live. It was becoming that version of me, who could actually pursue that.Lesley Logan 25:15  I love that you brought that up because that's like such a be it till you see it moment, isn't it? Like, I would have thought that you would have moved to Bali and then embodied the person you want it to be. But I love that you're like, I have to become the person who's living in Bali. Now, I have to like, be that person, I have to change that lifestyle. Because otherwise, you could,you probably would have just ended back in Washington, being a real estate agent that you were, or being in real estate because you hadn't made the changes beforehand. It's not easy to change your habits and change how you meet expectations for yourself.Kel Cal 25:50  No, it's not easy at all. But that's, that's how we become that future version of ourself. We become that version of ourself now, because the future doesn't even exist. And the only time we can actually make changes is right now in this moment, because we tell ourselves, we'll do it tomorrow will change tomorrow. But tomorrow, doesn't exist because when it arrives, it's called today. So when we can begin to become that version of who we desire to be to become her now, that's when we actually get to close those timelines and create our future and live that life now. So I really view it as just practice, practice being the future version of yourself now, like, try it on for size? How would the future version of you show up to whatever activity it is that you're doing? How would she progress throughout the day? How does she show up and start practicing showing up as her?Lesley Logan 26:44  Yes, I love that. Okay, so you move to Bali sight unseen. I just fucking love. Ladies, we can do it, we can just move to a place without checking it out first. So first of all, of course, everything we like, how did you like make a living? How did you like Were you already doing your coaching business? And then how does that how you wrote your book. And then also you said, we've talked about the wins other names, so let's make sure we get that.Kel Cal 27:09  Okay, so when I moved to Bali, I was building my online business that oh, which I still am. And I had the vision of writing a book for a long time. And I initially discovered my love for writing throughout my journaling journey, because I had never really written before I never journaled before, I started in 2018. And then I realized I actually love writing. And even at the beginning of my journey, I knew I would share it one day, I can remember I was in a domestic violence support group. And I had discovered TED Talks. And that was like my gateway drug to personal development. So I'm like, whoa, you can actually make all of these changes. So I watched a shit ton of TED Talks, and I was talking about them constantly. And the facilitator on the domestic violence support group called me TED Talk Kelly. And she's like, you're gonna have a TED talk one day. And that's, that feels so far away, because I'm literally just trying to survive. But also, it was so exciting, because I'm like, yes, I am going to share my journey one day, and it's going to empower other women to make these changes for themselves. So that's kind of when the seed was first planted. And then, as I continued to go on this journey of healing and self-love, which it's just to return to who you already are, like, it's not about becoming someone else. It's about becoming who you already are, beneath everything that you're not. So I had this vision of writing a book, and it was always like, now is not the right time. And we tell ourselves now is not the right time for a few reasons. One, because we have fear and limiting beliefs that are talking us out of it. And sometimes it's just truly not aligned for the right time. And for me, it's because I was still living the book that I would be writing. So my book starts with me getting on a flight in 2018 to move across the country to restart my life. And it ends in 2023 with me getting on a flight to move across the world to create my life. So it really just, I was still living the book. So that was really like one of the, one of the main things that I had as far as my vision of Bali. It's like, I'm going to write my book in Bali and that's what I did.Lesley Logan 29:25  Okay, the name of your book. Oh, yes.Kel Cal 29:28  How I Cured My Resting Bitch Face: Your Guide to Stop Settling, Fall in Love with Yourself, and Create a Life You're Obsessed With.Lesley Logan 29:36  Oh my gosh, Thank you, also, for just like saying the dates of these things because, even me, someone who is fully aware that like nothing happens overnight, I'm thinking oh, until, oh, she moved in 2021. You know what I mean? Like I just have, you had the, you had the intuition. You're like okay, I moved. No, it took you a couple more years like it took a, you know, like, everything takes a little bit of time and it's allowed to take time. But I love that you said like we'll say things like, now's not the right time. Another phrase we say is I can't afford, and what I love to reframe those as I'm not, I'm not choosing to do that in this moment, or I'm not choosing to invest that money in that thing right now. So those are, to reframe those phrases allows you to take back control of the idea, and actually make a choice and a decision. That's not a limiting belief. And it's actually something you can explore and make a possibility. So I love, I love the name of your book, I think it's really, I think it's really hilarious. And I think, I hope a lot of our listeners grab it. What are you most excited about right now? Kel Cal 30:43  Oh, so right now I am most excited about continuing to move towards becoming the version of myself that is fully creating the impact that I know I am here to make. So I have the vision of becoming a published author and sharing my journey. And I'm so, so proud of this book. And it's just my first book, because I know that there are future books that I'm currently living. So that was that was like one pillar, becoming an author. And then I have this vision of becoming a speaker. So I actually just invested in public speaking mentorship program. It's an eight-week program. And at the end of the program, I will be speaking at an event. It's called Fab X, which is kind of like Bali's version of TEDx, but with a little bit more soul ads. You know, as a coach, I really believe in the power of working with the coach and investing in yourself. Because, first of all, like, could you do any of this on your own? Could I, I worked with a coach to write my book. Could I've written my book on my own? Absolutely. But why not work with someone who's done what you want to do? So that way, they can guide you and support you. Lesley Logan 31:50  I love that. Kel Cal 31:51  And also, when you invest in yourself, that's like the first step of the transformation. Because the moment you say yes, and you actually put your money where your mouth is, it's kind of forcing you to start showing up in a new way. So by me investing in this program, it's like proclaiming to the universe like, yes, I'm committed to this, I'm showing up to this because my words are my gift, both written and spoken. So now I need to become the version of myself who can really share that gift.Lesley Logan 32:23  I love, I love and I couldn't agree more like, y'all, as a Pilates instructor, I have a Pilates instructor. As a coach, I have a coach. Like, the you, yes, you can get places on your own, but you can go really slow. You have a lot more detours. And it's always nice to have a guide who's you know, been where you want to go and then you'll evolve and you'll find another guide for yourself. So that's beautiful. We're gonna take a brief break, then we're gonna find out where people can find you, follow you, work with you, and your Be It Action Items. Lesley Logan 32:55  All right, Kel, where do you hang out? Where's your book at? How do we, how do we stalk you a little bit in the best way? Kel Cal 33:01  Okay, so I hang out on Instagram a lot. I love Instagram stories. So you can connect with me there @IamKelCal I also have my podcast which you have been a guest on. It's an amazing episode. My podcast is Dear Dumb Bitch. And my book How I Cured My Resting Bitch Face is available on Amazon and other retailers like Barnes and Noble, but Amazon's probably the best way to get it. Lesley Logan 33:29  Love it, we'll have all those links below. Okay. It's been a fun, it's been amazing, you've given us so much already. But bold, executable, intrinsic, target steps people can take away to be it till they see it. What do you have for us?Kel Cal 33:43  Okay, I actually have two and I really want to share both of them. So when we have a vision for ourself and our life, when we make like the vision board, a lot of the times we think it's about the things on the vision board, it's about the vacation, it's about the dream job, it's about the dream partner. And it's not really about any of those things, it's about how we think those things will make us feel. So we don't manifest what we want, we manifest what we are, which means we need to actually embody the emotions of what it is that we desire. so that way we can become an energetic match for them. So, one way you can do this is, it's actually a two-part process. So, identify the emotions that you think you will feel once you have the things on the vision board, and then create opportunities to begin to feel those emotions now. So let's just say you want a six-figure bank accounts. Okay? How is that going to make you feel? It might make me feel like I have stability and security. So start creating opportunities to feel what it's like to have stability and security in your life now. And then also look for ways that you already have stability and security in your life because that's going to start to create the neural pathways to start to recognize where you already have it, and then you can invite more of it in. So creating opportunities to experience more of the emotion, and also looking for ways that it's already present in your life. It might not be through financial means, but it might mean through other aspects of your life. So that's, that's one. And then the other way is, so, music is energy. And energy carries a frequency, which also allows us to calibrate. So pick a song and make it be your theme song that really embodies the energy of how you want to feel in the future. And then play that song every single morning, it's important to do it in the morning, because it's easy to just have the day go on and then you forget to actually do it. But put this song on and actually feel the emotions that the song is allowing you to connect with, that really represents how you desire to feel in the future, and how your life is going to feel in the future. So that way, you can have that energetic connection, because that's really how you're able to become a match for what it is that you desire.Lesley Logan 36:15  I'm obsessed with these. I've never had either of these as I mean, we've had lots of manifestation tips, but that was fucking awesome. Kel, I love them both. And now I'm like what song we want to play tomorrow morning like I (inaudible) music journey. Kel Cal 36:32  Yeah, and allow yourself to like move and actually like move in the way future you moves and embody that energy because that's, it's magical. Lesley Logan 36:44  I used to play level up at my studio, whenever I'd come in to my studio when I first opened it and I would like blast, it'd be like 7:30 in the morning, like just like level up, right? And then and then I would play Now We Are Free in between each client. So I could like wash my hands from the gladiator and like now I'm free of that energy like, not that I hated them. That's not it at all. It's just that people leave their energy around. And that was like my way of staging my studio. But I love the idea of playing the song of the person I want to be and like the energy I want to embody. That's brilliant. Fuck yeah. Love this. Kel, you are so awesome. Thank you so much for sharing your tips. We'll have to have you back, of course. And you guys, how are we going to use these tips in your life? Tag Kel, tag the Be It Pod. Let us know, go get her book, and, you know, give yourself permission to be continually learning. Doesn't mean you failed. I think it's really easy. I hear some of our listeners what, I should have learned that already. It's like you did, you're just at a new level now. So I feel like that's one of the best messages I got from this podcast episode. So thank you Kel, for giving us that. And y'all, until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 37:51  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day.   Lesley Logan 38:18  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 38:33  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 38:38  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 38:43  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 38:50  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 38:53  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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Is the mental health conversation too soft on social media? Has trauma become your identity? How do we break unhealthy patterns?  Michael Unbroken is a trauma coach, speaker, advocate for survivors of childhood trauma, and New York Times best-selling author.  Michael operates his life and mission statement around three identities: a trauma survivor, a trauma warrior, and a trauma mentor. Michael was a son of drug addicts and abusers, molested by a family friend, his finger was cut off by his mother, became homeless by 10, and a drug addict by 12.  Of course, if the story ended there, we would not be sitting here today and this would be a very depressing episode.  We will deconstruct Michael's way of life and how he went from being homeless to being a hero of his life and millions of others.  Expect to learn about why trauma is not an identity, why we must choose our struggle, how to break unhealthy patterns, how to take responsibility for our lives, the power of self-talk, how to raise our standards, and much more.  Let's get this started. * Rate The Podcast: https://ratethispodcast.com/discovermore Show Notes Michael's Website: HERE Michael's Instagram: HERE Michael's Podcast: HERE Michael's Book: FREE * Subscribe to Youtube: HERE Discover More Website: HERE Connect Further on IG: CONNECT * Discover More is a podcast for independent thinkers who appreciate the importance of mental health and social sciences. Welcome to our tribe.  * Thank you for Discovering More with us!

Michael Anthony, aka “Michael Unbroken” overcame unimaginable trauma as a child. Now he empowers people to love themselves, make themselves a priority, and to tell the truth no matter what.If you enjoy this episode, please consider leaving a rating and a review. It makes a huge difference in helping us spread the word about the show.Thanks for listening! To join our #POSITIVITY community or to learn more about Moshe, visit https://linktr.ee/moshepopackTopics: 2:45 – Michael's terrifying childhood.5:10 – Rock bottom at 26 years old.9:00 – Truth telling is the key to healing.14:30 – You need to invest in yourself.19:00 – The importance of life coaching.24:00 – Why Michael must help others.28:00 – What “Think Unbroken” truly means.31:30 – This moment is all that matters

  Episode Highlights: manhood, emasculation, demonization of masculinity, emotional regulation, personal growth, authenticity, healthy shame vs toxic shame, committing to values and principles, accountability, healing Summary: Welcome to this Monday edition of the Awake & Winning Podcast where we are sharing repost of an episode Kaylor did on the Think Unbroken Podcast with Michael Unbroken where they dive into the topic of masculinity and discuss the definition of manhood in today's world and the different narratives surrounding it.  The conversation explores the topics of shame and authenticity, emphasizing the importance of constructing and aligning with one's values and principles.They discuss the importance of taking action, raising standards, and holding oneself accountable and emphasizes the need for men to face their fears, overcome excuses, and embrace discomfort in order to become the best version of themselves.   As Kaylor and Michael wrap up, they discuss the differences between men and women in terms of healing and personal growth, highlighting the importance of challenging men and allowing women to focus on self-care.  Takeaways: The different narratives surrounding manhood Shame can be both healthy and toxic, serving as a motivator for self-improvement or as a constant state that hinders progress Authenticity is not just about being who you are, but about constructing and aligning with the values and principles that define who you want to be in the world Being a man involves committing to your values and principles, even in the face of judgment, criticism, and rejection Importance of finding a balance between strength and vulnerability, and the need for men to acknowledge and regulate their emotions while still taking action and achieving external success Holding yourself accountable and stop making excuses for your life Men heal primarily through achievement and external action, while women heal through self-care and introspection If you enjoyed the episode, please be sure to take a screenshot and share it out on Instagram and tag @thekaylorbetts. Also, please make sure to give us a review and a five star rating if you're loving what we are doing! _____________________________ RESOURCES & LINKS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/michaelunbroken/ YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/c/MichaelUnbroken Podcast | Think Unbroken Podcast with Michael Anthony on Spotify  | Think Unbroken Podcast on Apple Podcasts _____________________________ SPONSORS: Truly Tallow | https://www.trulytallow.com/ Use code “SUNNYBALLS10” at checkout for 10% off your order _____________________________ IMPORTANT UPDATES: Check out the Awake & Winning Website | https://awakeandwinning.com/ Join the Awake & Winning Life AW-cademy | https://theawlife.com/ Join the Awake & Winning Business AW-cademy | https://theawbiz.com Join the Awake & Winning POD-cademy | http://yourwinningpodcast.com/ Follow Kaylor on Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/thekaylorbetts/ _____________________________

Unbroken With Michael Anthony Blossom Your Awesome Podcast Episode #270 of the Blossom Your Awesome Podcast Michael Anthony aka Michael Unbroken joins us. Michael is an author, speaker, coach and host of the Think Unbroken Podcast. Michael helps trauma survivors get unstuck, learn to love themselves, and become the hero of their story!Michael Anthony, also known as Michael Unbroken, shares his remarkable story of overcoming childhood abuse and trauma. He grew up with a mother who was a drug addict and alcoholic, and he experienced homelessness and poverty. Michael started using drugs at a young age and was expelled from high school. Despite these challenges, he was eventually adopted by his grandmother and began to turn his life around. Now, Michael is a bestselling author, coach, mentor, and educator for adult survivors of child abuse. The conversation explores the speaker's personal journey from being a loser to finding success and purpose in life. It touches on themes of overcoming adversity, finding solutions to societal issues, and self-reflection. TakeawaysChildhood abuse and trauma can have long-lasting effects on individuals, but it is possible to overcome these challenges and create a better life.Supportive relationships, such as the adoption by Michael's grandmother, can play a crucial role in helping individuals heal and thrive.Michael's story is a testament to the power of resilience and personal transformation.There is a need for resources and support systems for adult survivors of child abuse. Adversity can be a catalyst for personal growth and transformation.Finding purpose and meaning in life requires self-reflection and introspection.Societal issues like homelessness, abuse, and poverty need to be addressed with effective solutions.Success is not solely defined by financial wealth, but also by personal growth and fulfillment. There are no excuses, only results.Resilience and personal growth can lead to positive change.Gratitude and being of service can bring fulfillment.To learn more about Michael or to work with him click here. To follow me, get bonus content from the show and to support my writing Check me out here at my Substack. To see more of my work check me out at my website. Or my other site

In this episode, Nada Nasserdeen shares her transformative journey from a high-powered executive to hitting rock bottom and rising anew with a vision to empower individuals. Explore how her personal experiences led to the birth of Rise Up For You, a platform focused on enhancing leadership, emotional intelligence, and confidence. Discover the importance of reevaluating your beliefs and the impact of self-confidence in achieving success.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Rise Up for You's empowerment via leadership and human skills training.How Nada's macro confidence turned Rise Up for You's foundation.Why early conditioning instills limiting beliefs that shape our actions.The "Four B's" method to combat limiting beliefs and boost confidence.The transformative power of self-belief and one's ability to learn and adapt.Episode References/Links:Nada Nasserdeen on IGRise Up For You InstagramNada Nasserdeen WebsiteRise Up For You WebsiteGuest Bio:Nada and her company, Rise Up For You works with clients around the world to enhance company leadership, growth, and personal development through transformational coaching, training, on-demand learning, and educational events. Our mission is to elevate you and your team's potential by providing high-quality training and coaching in soft skills- the most needed skills today and in the future. Make our superpower your superpower! Elevate your leadership, emotional intelligence, communication, confidence, success, and more.   If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Nada Nasserdeen 0:00  Life does not discriminate. You have no idea what's going to happen tomorrow. And I know for me, this is me, at the end of the day when I put my head on the pillow I don't want any regrets. I want to be like hell yeah, I lived my best life. God forbid, if something happens to me tomorrow, like, I'm proud of what I did and I feel fulfilled, and I don't know if most people can say that. Lesley Logan 0:22  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 1:01  All right, Be It babe, get ready. This episode is for you. I mean, they're all for you. But this one is really for you. This one is important and not just inspirational but, my goodness, integral into what you need to know about yourself to take action on what you want in this planet and what this world is. Not every day is going to be a great day. And not every day, you're going to feel like the badass that you are. But after this episode, I think you're going to have the tools to communicate with yourself around like what do you want? Why are you thinking this way? Why is that coming up? Why are you talking about stuff like that? So Nada Nasserdeen is our guest today and I knew when I met her she was epic. Now that I've had this time to interview her, I just want to hang out with her as much as I can. Luckily for me, she lives in Las Vegas. But at any rate, here is Nada Nasserdeen. Lesley Logan 1:52  Hi Be It babe. Welcome back. I'm so excited for Nada Nasserdeen to be our guest today. She's a powerhouse. I met her through one of your favorite guests, Michael Unbroken, and we have to celebrate July 4th, which feels like a New Year's because we had fireworks together. And we just instantly connected and I just love her energy and her how she is seeing the world. And so Nada, thank you for being here. Can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?Nada Nasserdeen 2:16  Yes, thank you so much for having me. It's an absolute honor. So, as you mentioned, my name is Nada Lena Nasserdeen, I'm the CEO and Founder of Rise Up For You and we get the greatest honor to work with organizations and individuals around the world to enhance leadership, culture, really all the human skills that we never really get taught, you know, the confidence, the mindset, how to communicate effectively. Those are really the most important skills that we need, not just in our career, but in our personal life. And we often don't get taught that. So we get to do that cool work again, within companies or one-to-one with individuals around the world. Lesley Logan 2:51  That is so cool and you're correct, like, no one teaches us how to be analytical anymore. There's zero leadership skills taught anymore. And so then you have this amazing idea, you start a great company or you start your own business and you have success. But then you have to hire a team or you're on a team and it's like, okay, how do I get people to work for me? Like, how do you do that? So how did okay, well, how does this get started, though? How did you? Did you fall into this? Is this always been a vision of yours?Nada Nasserdeen 3:18  How much time do we have here? It's a long story. So it really, you know, I guess I noticed the gap. In my first career, I was a performer. So I used to tour the world internationally, I would do musical theater, I would sing and dance. And I would realize like, when you go on a tour, you have about 40 people on that tour, 40, you know, singers and dancers. And I realized when we would go on tour, that there were just so many challenges on the road that when we would travel, but it had nothing to do with our technique, right? Like we were amazing singers, amazing dancers like the second we hit the stage, we were flipping rock stars. But when we were driving on the bus, or when we had these off, or when we were rehearsing, there was continuous conflict. And I'm like, okay, there's a lot of like people challenges on the road. That's when I first started to recognize like, there's a lot more to what we do beyond just the technique of singing and dancing. After about seven, eight years, I hung up the microphone, put my tap shoes away, and I actually became an executive for an education corporation. And I saw the exact same thing happening in the corporation. So I'm about 27 turning 28, I have 200 team members under me. These individuals have PhDs, master's degrees, bachelor's like all the certifications and credentials and everything that you need. But nothing was working in the culture because people couldn't communicate. They didn't know how to lead effectively. The culture was toxic individually. People didn't feel fulfilled, lacking confidence, self-doubt, impostor syndrome, and all those things compiled really did not make like a healthy culture or just a healthy and fulfilling life for these individuals. Nada Nasserdeen 4:56  So that's when I really started to ask myself like what is true success? We've been taught for so long, like, chase the degree, get the technique, get the credentials, but no one really ever tells you about the secret sauce or what I like to call the "it" factor that really does make up somebody's success. So again, these were all just like thoughts in my head. And these were things that I was noticing. I went through my own personal journey. And overnight I resigned from the company as an executive after about a four and a half years, I moved out of the country to settle down and get married. And in four weeks, my husband said he wanted a divorce. So I lost everything. So I went from a six-figure executive, to a house on a lake, to $100 in my account, no job, no car, no nothing to luggage. I get back on a plane, from Canada is where I went, back to California crying, bawling so confused and embarrassed about what just happened, lost everything. And my father came to me in my dream, my father had six heart attacks. So by the time I was going through this challenge in life, he had already passed. And he came to me on the airplane when I was crying, in my dream, and he said Nada, everything you need is already inside of you, you just have to rise up for you. Now I know it's hard, but if you could see the book back there, called Rise Up For You, that's the company that I started building. I just came back to California and I said, rise up for you. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it means. I've never built a business before. Like, I don't have an entrepreneurial background. My degree is not in business. But I just started building Rise Up For You. Nada Nasserdeen 6:33  I started asking myself, okay, what am I good at? What do I love to do? What do people think I'm good at, like, I asked about 10 of my friends. And I just started building the company or the brand, I should say, because you know, the first year or two, you're really just building the brand. About three months after I came back from Canada and I started building Rise Up For You, my mother, my second parent, was diagnosed with stage four cancer out of nowhere. So I built the company out of the hospital, I took showers at the 24-Hour Fitness and I would go back to the hospital open up my laptop, what do people need in the world? You know, what is coaching? Who's Tony Robbins, and I really just started to craft. And with my experience that I had prior as an executive and as a performer, and the things that I was seeing happening and what I was going through, I'm like, okay, what does it really mean to build a life that you're proud of and what are the skills that we need? And out of that, out of that pain came the company. Lesley Logan 7:30  Nada, that's so amazing. First of all, I, I love that your father came to you in your dream. And I love that you actually, it's kind of interesting how it all happened with your mom, when you were back in California. So you could actually be there with her and like, you know, like, she could also somewhat be there for you as going through this big transition. But like, I am constantly amazed by these obstacles that we go through. And how frustrating it probably was to be on the road. And how frustrated it was to be an executive with these people who have all these degrees and all these talents, and they're wasting them because there's infighting, there's all this, you know, back fighting and all this stuff. But also all of that led you to being able to see a problem that needed to be solved and can be solved in so many different scales. Like, you can be in a big 200-person company and it can be on the road for a musical tour. Like it's kind of insane how that led you to here. I just I'm amazed and never surprised but it's always blows my mind because we tend to go, what's the thing that's going to make me successful? And it's like, well, what you went through your past that you experienced that you actually have, you actually have some experience in solving and seeing, you know? Nada Nasserdeen 8:39  Definitely. And it's and even from like a speaking perspective, right? You know, like, I speak a lot, you know, obviously, I'm on stage, podcast. And, you know, oftentimes I get told, like, you're awesome on stage. And I'm like, but you know what? I performed for so many years. I had no idea as a performer that 10 years later, I was going to be talking and being on stage and pretty much doing the same thing, just with a different tool. One tool was (inaudible) one tool is you know, empowerment, mindset, and you know, the training and development that we do.Lesley Logan 9:11  Yeah. So how many years have you been doing Rise Up now that it's officially been going and like, what are you excited about working with it today? Like what's the big goal for today?Nada Nasserdeen 9:21  Yeah, great question. So the brand was about two years, and then the actual business is five. So a total of seven. And the reason why I say that is because the first two years I didn't make a dime. There was no business model. It was just let's, you know, put content out there for free like a blog, you know how it was back in the day, like you had your blog and you would do podcasts and that kind of stuff. And then after about two years, I thought no like if I really want this to go somewhere and do something, I need to, I put need to put you know, my foot in the fire and I just need to do it. And that's when I started like actually building the monetary side of it and then just catapult from there.Lesley Logan 10:00  Yeah, thank you for sharing that first two years, I think so many people, watch businesses and brands and personal brands grow online and they go, oh my God, they're just making, they're just skyrocketing. They're doing so much, they're making so much and what people don't realize is like, the first two years, if you're making money like that, good, great. It's also the hardest two years. And it doesn't have to be successful in those first two years for it to be successful later on, like really taking in information and providing value is the most important thing one can do.Nada Nasserdeen 10:28  Yeah, especially when you're in the service industry, which, you know, there's a lot of solopreneurs, and coaches and consultants out there, like you're the product, you don't have a product that you could just give to someone, and then they're like, oh, yeah, give me 10, you know, you're the product. And so you really have to build, you got to build some clout, you got to build some credibility, you have to build, you know, some kind of brand around you first, lots of speaking for free, like my first two years, just to get out there so that people can see like, oh, she's good on stage, or, you know, she's got a great message, or even just to collect footage to put up online, like a lot of that the first two years. And then from there, it was like, okay, we can we can do something with this. And honestly, from there, it's been crazy, like we quadrupled during quarter during the COVID. And even last year, the research just came out that about 60% of small businesses fell behind last year, we more than doubled last year in 2020. So it's just been it's I mean, which only doesn't speak to us, it just speaks to the need (inaudible). Lesley Logan 11:33  Well a little bit of both I think like, one, people are finally aware of the need, and then also like you are there, you know, that's what, like preparation meets opportunity. You know, like the people are, what here's what's amazing. Like, we also had, it was one of the hardest years for us one of the best year we've had, we've consistently every single year made more, which I'm so proud of. And, and I don't share that to brag, and I don't think even Nada sharing her success is bragging, I think it's really important, ladies, listen to this, you need to hear how businesses are growing, because you can hear from the people around you, ah it's bad, there's a recession, like there's all these things. No one says anything good about the economy ever. So. But like, the truth is, is that people are realizing if their teams are not happy and satisfied as a human being they can leave because there is such a demand for good people who can do great work, and companies need more and more people to do those things. And so I think it's really cool that you are able to be an asset to these companies actually help them create this opportunity to see their people and work more functionally with their teams. Is that like, am I on the right track? Because that's what like people are seeing for you. Is that what you're going in there for?Nada Nasserdeen 12:44  Totally. Yeah, and we have the two divisions. So we have the, you know, the company, the corporation and then we also have the individuals because I mean, it's really sad to say this, but I'm sure you see this too. Most individuals are just not happy and they're on autopilot. And they don't feel fulfilled, they don't have clarity. They're not like present in their life. And most of the time, it's because, again, they've never been taught these tools. Sometimes it's so overwhelming, they don't know how to get out of it, like, okay, I have a job, I pay my bills, I have my kids, every single day, I have to do this, but they don't feel happy, they don't feel fulfilled, and they just don't understand how to make the shift. Or maybe the courage and the confidence hasn't been built for them to make the shift, right? Because there's a disruption that needs to happen if you want to create massive change in your life. So we really tackle both areas, because, you know, companies are made up of people. If people walk into an organization and they're unhappy, and they're unfulfilled, I mean, I don't care what company you work for, it's not gonna work because people bring their challenges and their pain into the workplace. It's fulfilling to do both. It's fulfilling to go into an organization and see the culture shift and the leadership change and for people to have aha moments. And it's also really amazing to sit across from somebody that may be really wanted to build a business, but they're scared. They don't know how to, but they just start it. And then they see the fruits of their labor happen. Lesley Logan 14:07  Yeah, I love that. Because I'm in college, I didn't think I was ever using this degree. And then I realized I had been using it the whole time, but like, my degree was interpersonal and organizational communication. So like one one-on-one, and then how a business communicates. It's really quite funny. And then like, I became a Pilates instructor and I thought oh gosh, why did I get that degree in the first place? But then because I became a fitness business coach and because of the company that I created for Pilates, like it is all interpersonal communication and organizational communication. And when I grew my company to a place where I actually had to hire a team, that was one of the hardest thing so to like, talk about being a human being you take it to the workplace, if you're not used to asking for help, you can hire all the people that you want. You have to ask them to do things and like you have to that is a leadership skill of like how do I ask for help and how do I get the help that I'm wanting and how do I communicate that. We took massive growth and Then, when my husband came on to the team, we worked with a coach to like, figure out, you know how this was going to run. And she was like, oh, you guys are in the wrong roles. And so he took over as running the company. And even then even with that as like, oh, that's amazing. But I had to learn again, like, okay, then what's the leadership I have in this company? Because now someone else is like running my vision. What does that look like? And it really it's like, consistent need you guys, every level, there's a new devil, but you have to like, if you don't fix the things that you're on autopilot on now, you'll have to fix them later. And it'll be a little bit harder when the business is bigger.Nada Nasserdeen 15:35  Yeah, and it's also, you know, I come from this perception, and it could just be my experience of, you know, so much loss at a young age, like, by the time I was 31, turning 32, I lost both of my parents and then betrayed myself, you know, and also felt betrayed by someone that I loved. So I think that, you know, what I see today is a lot of individuals that are very entitled, when it comes to life, like, we walk around as if we have 10 lifetimes to live. And we don't like we forget that God forbid, tomorrow can be the last day or even three hours from now, we just don't know. But we have a very entitled mindset around like, oh, I have time I have time, I have time. And I think once an individual breaks that mindset and says, like, no like and creates urgency, they start to take action more because the last thing you want to do, and I see this a lot, is five years from now somebody else can somebody will come back and be like, five years ago, I wanted to help and I never thought it and I thought I could just whatever, figure it out. And now it's five years later, five years has gone by and I'm in the same spot. You know what I mean? So it's creating that urgency, because life does not discriminate. You have no idea what's going to happen tomorrow. And I know for me, this is me at the end of the day when I put my head on the pillow. I don't want any regrets. I want to be like Hell yeah, I lived my past life. God forbid something happened to me tomorrow. Like, I'm proud of what I did. And I feel fulfilled. Yeah. And I don't know if most people can say that.Lesley Logan 17:06  I think you're sadly You're right. I, I really thought like maybe that the pandemic would change how people live their lives, because like, my goodness, we had like, an entire full year and depending on where you lived, where you were, like, how do I want out it? Like how do I want to be when this is all over? Like, like a big pause. And so many people got even more negative and more entitled, and more like, and not, and not seeing like the gift that we had of a reset. Like I saw that as like such a reset like this was it sucked. You know, I'm not gonna say that, like it was the most fun refunding thousands of dollars, at the beginning of it, and starting my whole business over from scratch. But like, I really did take it as like, okay, if all of this is leaving, what is it curating space for? And who would I want to be on the other side of this? And I'm not saying like, I live this life, like, I don't I sometimes do live like I have 10 lifetimes. I try to think of it as like maybe two more. But like, I think it is so easy for us to just lean into we have tomorrow, everything's guaranteed and just wake up at five years. And it's the frickin same. And I did not want that. When 2020 happens it' like no, when this is all over, I want to be further along than when I started. And I want to take advantage of this. I wonder like, how do you help people speed up the decision to change their life like that? How do we get people to not waste five years before they finally come to your to get your help?Nada Nasserdeen 18:28  Yeah, that's a really good question. The first thing for me, and this is what I see predominantly across all clientele is confidence, it's self-confidence because most people don't take action and move forward because they're afraid, they're afraid of failure, they're afraid of rejection, and maybe they don't know how to do it. And they don't have the self-confidence to like, sit and learn and figure it out. Right? There's, anytime there's the procrastination, or anytime a behavior is occurring, whether it's a lack of action or an action, it's because of the belief system that's been built. So, my team and I, we ask, every year, we assess thousands of professionals, 83% say their number one challenge is self-confidence. Like, think about this, 83% of professionals say their number one challenge is self-confidence. And these are educated professionals that are executives that are running like Fortune 500 companies, you know, and so the challenge is not content. It's not whether or not you have this skill or can learn this skill, like we're in 2024 Think about you can go on Google right now and figure out how to build the business, how to do whatever you want to do.Lesley Logan 18:28  You can even ask it to create content for you at this point. Like there's not an obstacle here, guys, except for you.Nada Nasserdeen 19:43  Exactly right. And so, like the content and the tools and the resources to build a life that you're proud of is all there for most people except for those that are maybe in a third world country that don't have internet and you know our capabilities. So, the challenge is not what can I grab and get a hold of it's where am I at? What's happening with me, and it always comes from it comes from here. And that's why people procrastinate and struggle with taking action, they have to re-write the beliefs that they've been programmed to have of being afraid of failure, being afraid of rejection, like, if you want to move forward, and you want to create massive change in your life, you have to be unapologetically self-confident, to the point that your identity is not defined by the mistakes and the failures that you have. And most individuals struggle with that. And it prevents them from taking action because they don't want people on social media to see them and be like, oh, look at them today or they're afraid of doing a video because people think they're gonna, you know, make fun of them. They people-please, they're afraid of, you know, putting people down, they don't have healthy boundaries in their life, all of these things cripple people from building the life that they want.Lesley Logan 20:59  Yeah, it's, I mean, it's amazing how much lack of self-confidence there is, it's, feels like an epidemic on its own. Because like, I meet so many people who are so amazing, and they just don't have the confidence that they can do the first next step. And as with my friend, Kareen, y'all, she's been on the podcast before. And she's like, confidence is Faith in Action. Like, it's not doesn't mean you have proof that you can do it, it's that you have faith, that if you take the action, it's gonna work itself out. And you know, it's such a simple way of saying that, but so many people have more faith and fear than they do in them taking the next stepNada Nasserdeen 21:39  100%. So I break it down into this is, this is the way that I teach, train and speak about confidence. There's two types of confidence that we have, okay, we've been taught our whole life to build what I call micro-level confidence, okay, micro-confidence, meaning that we're taught to build confidence and categories, competencies, or things. So for example, we go to school our whole life, and we're taught to like get good grades in math, in science, like whatever credential, we go to university, some of us will get good grades in that competency, in that subject, right? So we're taught our whole life to build confidence in these things, but those things aren't sustainable. Nada Nasserdeen 22:19  So for example, I'm very confident as a speaker, I'm confident as a singer, but those things change, like, God forbid, I can lose my voice tomorrow, and then I can't speak or sing anymore, right? That's micro-level confidence. And they're constantly shifting. This is what we saw with COVID, we had, there were people that were having major meltdowns that came to work with our team, because they've only ever known themselves as like this high-function leader, this business owner, this six figure role, that's how they identified themselves and all of those things shifted and changed during the COVID. And they were like, who am I? What's my worth? What value do I bring to the world, because their identity was attached to this micro-level of confidence, okay? Then you have the real self-confidence that we want. And that's what I call macro-level confidence. Macro level, confidence is an inner belief in your ability to learn, pivot and grow. Macro-level confidence is a belief that even when you fail, and you fall that your outside circumstances don't define your work and your self-esteem and who you are as an individual. Many individuals do not have this macro-level confidence. But the macro-level, confidence is what gets you to build the micro-level confidence. So think when I you know, I shared my story about building the business, I didn't have any micro, like, I had no idea how to build a business, I was never an entrepreneur, I knew nothing about nothing, like did not build a website, like had no freaking idea. But I had the macro-level confidence to say, okay, the current situation that I am in right now sucks, but I believe in my ability to learn. And I believe that I can like go and figure it out. And everything that I'm going through right now does not make me a crappy person, it does not mean that I'm not good enough, it does not mean that I don't add value to this world. It's just a situation that's occurring. And I'm going to use my pain and skill for growth, that's macro-level confidence. And I was able to take action because I understood that even if I take the wrong action, that doesn't make me a bad person or not enough, or whatever the thoughts are that we have in our mind. And because I had the macro-level confidence, what happened I built more micro, which is building the business and then all these extra micro little things started to get built. And that is most important for people to understand. But if you don't believe and bet on you, you know, how are you going to pivot in the next five to 10 years when artificial intelligence is coming or something else, God forbid, happens in society. You talked about the recession earlier. Right? Or you know, COVID that's all a mindset, right? That's the self-confidence and the monkey chatter and the fear that we feel, but I can tell you now I know people, including myself that they flourished during COVID, they flourished during the recession. I know we did. Because for us, it's like, no, we're taking action. Like, we're not going to get into fear. We're not going to get into worry. We're not going to scarcity mindset. We believe in who we are, we believe in what we're doing. And we're just going to continue to take action and tune out the noise. Lesley Logan 25:20  Yep. No, you're you're 100% right there. I think like, people who make decisions on their business based on fear, and what the media is telling them is happening. There, there, there's no way you can have macro-confidence or micro because you're taking advice from people who do things for clicks and views. And the longer you watch on there, and like having the confidence in yourself, which would, same here, both in COVID and in the last year, it was insane what we were able to do when everyone was saying those things were impossible, or things were bad. And, you know, it really isn't. I don't think you and I are anomalies. It's just very much like believing in ourselves and taking the action that follows through with that. Do you think okay, so obviously, this is what you coach on. But I guess like, for that macro-level confidence, like, where do people need to start? Because, like, we can sit here and say you believe in yourself and people can be nodding in their cars, like I need to believe in myself, but like, where do they how do they actually start building that like belief in them that they can handle things?Nada Nasserdeen 26:22  Great question. So I'm going to take it back a little bit, and I'm going to be fully transparent, some people are luckier than others in their path in life that shifted their confidence. And this is what I mean. So there's two schools of thought out there when it comes to confidence. Some, you know, research and scientists and people that are in this space, say that you're either born with confidence or you're not. Right? And then you have the other philosophy that's like, no, it's a skill, you can build it. I believe it's both. Because when you think about babies, for example, when they're born in this world, they are so flipping confident, like, they do what they want. They say what they want, they explore, they touch, like, they don't have fear in their mind. It's not a part of who they are. When they learn to walk, and they fall on their bum 100 times, they don't care if people are looking at them or not like they get back up, they keep trying, it's part of their nature. But some of us are born into cultures, households, parents, society, things that are external, that immediately shift our confidence and how we feel about ourselves, okay? And some of us are born into very, like beautiful, loving circumstances, that give us more confidence. And many of us are born into situations where, you know, we're told that we suck, and we're not good enough. And we can't do that starting at a young age. And then you go to school, and maybe your teacher says the same thing. And then maybe you get bullied. And so then it validates that, and then you get into your first relationship, and they break up with you because you're fat or ugly, and they don't think you're good enough. And then it re-validates that belief system, then you get your first job and your leader's unkind to you. So all of those things impact our confidence. And I would say there's only a lucky few that had like a pretty positive journey that's taught them to love themselves and be confident and be kind, okay, I happen to be one of those people. I'm very lucky. And I always, I always say that because I was built, I was born into a family of two parents that when my parents would drive us to school, when I was five, they would say affirmations like today, you're going to be amazing. And we would have to repeat it. If we came in the house when I was seven. And I was like, I can't do that my dad were like, don't you dare say I can't in front of me, like so we were taught that at a very young age and I consider us to be lucky. If you haven't had that path, then we need to rewire the brain. This is where the neuroscience comes in. And we need to do some strategies to shift the belief system. So I use something called the four B's it's what we call reverse engineering with the company. It's a blueprint that we found in. There's four B's to to reframing and reverse engineering your belief system so that you can actually build confidence. Because if your beliefs aren't working right, then your blessings aren't going to come to fruition. But they're all connected. Yeah. So the first belief is, and there's a lot of these, are start writing down the limiting beliefs that you have. Now, this takes a self-awareness for you to catch it. Right? So for example, if you want to raise your hand at a meeting, because you have something to say, but you walk out of that meeting and you don't raise the hand, write down, limiting belief. Why didn't you raise the hand? What's the belief that came into your mind? Did you not raise the hand because you were afraid that people were gonna think you're stupid or you were afraid they weren't going to accept what you wanted to say? Like, what's the belief? Write it down, the limiting belief. Limiting belief, meaning that it got in your way, right, it sabotages. The second B is what's the backstory to that belief, whatever that belief is, where did it come from? And the backstory is usually the most difficult to identify because it usually stems like, you know, years and years ago. So example I didn't raise my hand because I was afraid that the leader was going to shut me down and think I'm stupid. Okay, well, where did that come from? Why do you think they're gonna shut you down and you're stupid? Well, the first job I ever had, you know what I mean? It's like, you have to trace it back. The third B, which is so important, because this is what people usually are attuned to, is, what's the behavior that it's causing? Because our beliefs are creating behaviors in us that sometimes we don't even know we're behaving in a certain way. And what I mean by that behavior is, for example, somebody gives you a compliment about your clothes and then on autopilot, you're like, oh, no, I look ugly, whatever. Like that's a behavior that you just that (inaudible). It could be that you're overly aggressive with your partner, with your romantic partner, it could be not raising the hand and then meeting all of those things or behaviors. So we have to understand the belief that you have that's limiting you, what's the behavior that it's causing? Because the behavior at the end of the day is what we want to shift, but it's attached to the beliefs, they are all connected. And then the fourth B is now how do we break it? How do we break the limiting beliefs so that we can shift the behavior and that's not one size fits all. It's a little bit different for everyone. Some people. And I know that this was true for me. The second I found out that my limiting belief was attached to like Bobby Joe, let's say, and then Bobby Joe's, like, it made so much impact on me that it then impacted this behavior that was preventing me from getting the money that I wanted. I was like, wait a minute, Bobby Joe, is not that powerful. Bobby Joe from 20 years ago has like, really impacted me to the fact that this belief is impacting my behavior to like, go and ask for, no, I can't accept that. Sometimes. It's that simple for somebody, you know what I mean? And other times, you know, we need to work through it a little bit more and do more digging and more self-awareness and reflecting.Lesley Logan 31:58  I think that thank you for bringing up Bobby Joe. Because like, I think a lot of people have a lot of Bobby Joe's holding them back. And like one of the things we coach people in our business, we're like, you know, it's time for you to raise your rates. And some people, they're like, I gotta do it, I'm gonna do it. They just do it. Some people, six months later, we're still talking about doing it. And I'm like, so which client are you not raising your rates because of? Like, there's a person that you're afraid is gonna say something nasty? It's one person. And you are affecting your entire company on this one client that I bet, I bet if they left you you go, ah. And it's a Bobby Joe, because we have these limiting beliefs that we can't do something because of whatever is going on. Oh, it's such an I love those Bs. Also, because you're correct. Our behaviors just reflect what we believe is possible. So if we can actually have awareness, it makes it easier to take steps. And you can do this with each one like each and every single one. And it's true, how far back you have to go. You guys, I was doing some morning pages I talked with on a podcast episode about a year ago. I don't cook around the house. I'm like, I can't cook. I don't cook. And I was doing these morning pages with this artist way group we're doing and it came up that when I was like seven years old, my grandfather said, "What are you stupid?" When I made a grilled cheese sandwich. And I made it correctly, everyone, I made the grilled cheese sandwich correctly. But the way he said it to me, and it shut me down. I never, I don't cook. I don't I didn't cook anything. I didn't even start. And I was like, Whoa, my whole life. I didn't even try to cook. Because I just like the seven-year-old me was like hearing like you're stupid you can't like and that's not like I was actually hearing those words. But like it's a, the behaviors match this limiting belief that was happening that happened so long ago in my life. So, my goodness, Nada, we could talk forever, but I really love that you gave us those four Bs. And I really love that you actually, instill that idea of like macro-confidence, because I think that's a really great takeaway for people to kind of focus on. Obviously, we'll have to have you back. But we're going to take a brief break, find out where people can find you, follow you, work with you and your Be It Action Items. Lesley Logan 34:02  All right, Nada, where do you like to hang out? Where can people connect with you?Nada Nasserdeen 34:06  Awesome. Thank you. So definitely, you can check us out at riseupforyou.com We have a ton of free resources. We actually have something that's pretty cool. It's the masterclass that we have. But we create the masterclass for yourself of your need. So we have this cool algorithm, you get in there it's totally free, it asks you a couple questions and then based off of how you respond, it drives you to the masterclass accordingly. So if you come to us and you're like, hey, I'm looking for confidence it'll drive you to a confidence masterclass boot camp, if you're like, hey, like I'm really struggling with my personal brand, it'll drive you to a masterclass on personal brand. So check that out. It's totally free. It's riseupforyou.com but I love to play on Instagram and LinkedIn. That's my zone. That's my space. please connect with me follow me there. I do my own Instagram and LinkedIn messages. So like you're not going to get a bot if you send me a message I'll definitely respond to you. Lesley Logan 34:57  Amazing. Oh my gosh, I also love that I don't think I've ever had anyone on here who is like a, like, create your own adventure tool.Nada Nasserdeen 35:05  That's a great way to say it. Lesley Logan 35:07  Yeah, I love create your own adventure, I do create-your-own-adventure birthday parties all the time. Like, I'm like, here's where I'm gonna be you choose what you want to do. So I'm in that all the time. Okay. You've given us so much actually already. But I do want to in case people want to just like get some at the end, bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to Be It Till They See It. What do you have for us? Nada Nasserdeen 35:27  Yeah, the first thing that I'm going to say is this, really fast, is everybody has negative beliefs including myself, and I do this for a living and wrote a book. And every single day I talk about confidence and soft skills, right? Human skills. But it's not about getting rid of all your negative beliefs. That's just not the human condition. It's about working through the belief system and building self-awareness so that you can shift the behavior so that it serves you versus sabotages you. So it's all about managing your belief. It's not that we're going to exterminate every single negative thought that we have. But it's about catching the negativity and being like, oh, no, we're not going to go there. And like driving it and shifting it into something that can serve you. So that's why those four Bs, I'm going to go back to the four Bs because that's really the starting point. And it's not easy, but those four Bs are going to serve you because when you catch the belief, it's not about like, oh, I have a negative thought. It's like, wait a minute, why do I have this belief? Where's it coming from? And is this sabotaging me or serving me? And if it's not serving you, then we need to figure out how to shift it. And that's what that four Bs is there to help you do. But I don't want people walking around thinking that like, oh, I can't have a negative thought I have negative thoughts every day. But I'm really good at sticking up for myself to myself. Like I looked at it being like, Nada, don't you dare talk to yourself like that, like, stop it right now. Get rid of that thought. And it's miraculous what it does. I'm like, yes, stick up for myself to myself, just like I would, if a person down the street came to me and was like Nada, you're not good enough. I'd be like, excuse me who are you talking to? We have to do the same thing to ourselves. Lesley Logan 37:02  Yeah. Oh my God, I do love that because sometimes I'll have a negative thought and like, I'm so conscious of a negative thought, like, why would I bring that negative energy into this space around this idea? And I literally like, what are you doing Lesley, like you, are you, that's not who you are. Take that back. Think of another positive thought before you finish this, like, little thought process in your head. And I think like, oh my God, if someone could hear like, it was a transcript of like the conversation in my head all day, it would be a book long every day. And it would be a little bit of back and forth between myself. (Inaudible) 100%. Oh, my gosh, Nada, you are awesome. It's so incredible what you were able to create. Thank you for sharing your whole story. I just it's so important that people hear that like you don't have to have all the answers to get started. And also how like, just by sticking up for you and really focusing on what you believe in that you can create amazing things no matter what's going on in the world. So you're just incredible inspiration. Lesley Logan 37:54  You all, how are you going to use these Be It Action items in your life? Let us know. Tag Nada, tag the Be It Pod, share this with a friend who you're like, oh, my goodness if their confidence could just be a little bit better or maybe they need something like Rise Up For You, just share it with them because that could be the easiest thing that they do today is just start to think about themselves and what's holding them back. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 38:16  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day.   Lesley Logan 38:43  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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oin me, Jason LaChance host of the  @KnockinDoorzDown  podcast, certified addiction recovery coach, and mental health advocate for my sit down with special guest Michael Unbroken  @MichaelUnbroken  Michael states, that he didn't sign up to be the spokesman for survivors of child abuse. The job sucks and he means that. The truth is that the universe chose Michael for this role. He has been gifted with the ability to navigate the most harsh and vicious child abuse to come out on the other side seemingly whole. He says seemingly because there will always be a part of him that was stolen that he cannot get that back. None of the rage, drugs, sex, rock n' roll, or anger will give him what was stolen. The world is both beautiful and brutal and Michael has seen the best and the worst of it. He knows that the abuse he suffered has given him an undeniable strength that he was only able to tap into after falling face-first into complete darkness. There is truth in understanding that Mindset is Everything. There are no shortcuts, trust Michael he tried them all. There is hard work and on the backside of that is getting your life back. We discuss the following and more. Intro 00:00 People think genius comes naturally, I've done my 10,000 hours. 4:00 I needed to leave my environment. 10:30 Most of your friendships are liabilities, not assets. 12:30 I have the life that I want. You can too, pay your dues. 27:35 everyone is divided about everything and it isn't sustainable 37:40 This is Michael Unbroken Knockin' Doorz Down. For more on Michael Unbroken: https://www.thinkunbroken.com/ Please subscribe and share and to get the YouTube visit https://www.KDDPodcast.com for more Celebrities, everyday folks, and expert conversations on turning your greatest adversities into your most significant advantages. Get your copy of Carlos Vieira's Autobiography Knockin' Doorz Down. Hardcover, Paperback & Audio Book https://linktr.ee/kddbook For the KDD Inspired t-shirts brought to you by 51FIFTY. https://www.kddmediacompany.com/shop For more information on Carlos Vieira's autobiography Knockin' Doorz Down, the Carlos Vieira Foundation, the Race 2B Drug-Free, Race to End the Stigma, and Race For Autism programs visit: https://www.carlosvieirafoundation.org/ #wedorecover #mentalhealth #growth #michaelunbroken Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this podcast episode, Lesley and Brad recap Michael's interview, exploring the significance of steadfast dedication, cultivating a mindset geared towards growth. The episode provides actionable insights for personal and professional progression, highlighting the importance of intentional friendships and effective skill application. Discover how to proactively approach life's hurdles, viewing them as chances for enrichment and drawing lessons from diverse life experiences.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How intentional decisions can prevent flaking out and lead to more fulfilling engagements.The value of nurturing relationships with people who support and believe in you.Gain insights into the necessity of not just possessing skills but also effectively leveraging them.The importance of setting and committing to your goals and dreams.How a fixed mindset limits opportunities and impedes growth.Episode References/Links:ContrologyBe It PodOPC Winter ToureLevate Round Four2025 Cambodia Early Bird RetreatMini 10  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. Get your free Athletic Greens 1 year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 and 5 free travel packsGet your discount for some Toe Sox using the code: LESLEY Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesFollow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:24 Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:08 Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life Brad and I are going to dig into the compelling convo I have with Michael unbroken in our last episode. If you haven't yet, listened to that one you should listen to it. It's fucking awesome. I'm really proud of it.Brad Crowell 1:22 It's a long one, but it's a good one. Lesley Logan 1:24 Okay, we knew it was gonna be a long one. And we questioned whether we should break it up into two episodes. But the reality was, it's the week of the 300th episode. So of course, it's going to be an epic episode that happens to kick this week off. Right? So also it's just really fun to share because when we the first one we had Michael Unbroken on we hadn't met yet. Like I was on his podcast, and then he came on my podcast, but we didn't actually like, we weren't friends. We never met in person, we never hung out. Since then, he's moved to Las Vegas. He's part of the family.Brad Crowell 1:57 Well, we saw him like three or four times while I still lived in Denver, because totally coincidentally, we happen to be going there. And then. So yeah, I mean, and then we actually, obviously stayed in touch when he moved here.Lesley Logan 2:11 Yeah, he came out here a couple times. A lot. And then and then when we saw him in Denver, and we hung out. I mean, we just like it was like he already lived here before he moved here. And then he moved here.Brad Crowell 2:21 Well, because yeah, you're right. He was flying into town because he does a lot of business coaching here. So he was here.Lesley Logan 2:27 Anyways, he was here and like, then he moved here, has been awesome. And so now having him on, I feel like you could probably hear a difference in just how the episode went. Because we were just friends.Brad Crowell 2:36 I could hear it and actually, like, turned into like, less of a Be It Pod format and more of like, what's, what's the the guys that like, run the three out? What's the long form Doctor guy? Because you just have these conversations and conversations.Lesley Logan 2:55 No, we are not Huberman because both Michael and I listen to Huberman. But thank you for that.Brad Crowell 3:00 Well, it was, it was Lesley Logan 3:02 But he's, he's, well, first of all, here's how we're not Huberman. Because one, he's three and a half hours minimum. Two, he asked a question qualifies it three times and ask the question again, with a slight little nervousness to it, which I find very interesting. Michael. Mr. Huberman, if you're listening to this, you just seem a little nervous when you answer a question. Anyways I thought maybe he's being humble. Anyways, neither Michael nor I are very clear in any question we asked.Brad Crowell 3:30 Well, there was a lot of compelling conclusions drawn from the conversation that you had. But yeah, it was about like two-thirds of the way through where you were like, maybe we should like get on topic. Lesley Logan 3:41 Well, we're not. I wouldn't say we're very clear on our questions. We don't qualify them. We just fucking ask them. So I think anyways, it's Brad Crowell 3:48 Well, but it was I guess that's true. And Michael was also I, you know, another part of it that made it different was that it wasn't just you asking the questions. He's asking me a question, because this is on his feed. And obviously, it's on ours. ButLesley Logan 4:03 This is what, we're breaking the fourth wall? No, we're just telling you the behind the scenes. Brad Crowell 4:06 Yeah. But I mean, you could tell because he was asking you questions as well. That's why.Lesley Logan 4:12 That's what friends do. Friends help each other out. And you'll hear more about what friends do in this podcast recap. Anyways, we'll get into Michael in a second but today is December 7th 2024, Brad?Brad Crowell 4:25 I've been planning 2024.Lesley Logan 4:27 I know it is Pearl Harbor Day and also Hanukkah. So Happy Hanukkah to our listeners out there who are celebrating that and to any of you whose family was involved in Pearl Harbor, or anything that happened after that, this was your remembrance day. I think last year there was still people alive from that which I find fucking crazy.Brad Crowell 4:49 And you gotta be in their 90s. Lesley Logan 4:51 Anyways, my great grandfather and grandfather were both in the Navy. So this is a big part of our family. So anyways, the other thing that's happening in this world, in this moment is that the tour kicks off tomorrow.Brad Crowell 5:04 Tomorrow.Lesley Logan 5:05 In Las Vegas.Brad Crowell 5:06 Friday. Lesley Logan 5:07 If you listen to this real-time (inaudible)Brad Crowell 5:09 The day of the 300th episode. Lesley Logan 5:12 Whoa, how do we do that? Brad Crowell 5:13 How do we time that? Lesley Logan 5:14 Wow, we should do something that we should make that a big party. Anyway opc.me/tour - it will tell you all the cities we're going to be at if there's any spots left at any of them. We're doing 20 cities. We're trying. Brad Crowell 5:25 It's like, it's really crazy. I'm gonna rattle them off really quick. And maybe, I mean, I don't know if we have you shouldn't read.Lesley Logan 5:35 Here's what here we can rattle off. All rattle off the ones that are confirmed. So Las Vegas, St. George Denver, Lawrence, Kansas, St. Louis, Cleveland, Hershey, Pennsylvania, Boston, Greensboro, Greensboro, Greensboro. Yep. Miami, Austin, Dallas. Those are all, at the time of this recording, you could buy tickets for. Now, we're recording this early because we're going on fucking tour. Brad Crowell 6:03 Did you say Denver?Lesley Logan 6:04 I said Denver. No, I, I'm at, I'm already, I'm already ahead in time. We are working on. I'll tell you where we're working on some things. Because just in case you live in the area. We're working on something around the Louisville area. We're working on something on the Cincinnati area. We're working on something in upstate New York. We are working on something in Sarasota.Brad Crowell 6:25 Savannah, Georgia, we're working on that.Lesley Logan 6:27 Savannah, Georgia, anyone out there? Well, if you're listening right now too late. Brad Crowell 6:31 It's a bit late. Lesley Logan 6:32 It's a bit late but we're driving by, and maybe we're coming. So definitely check out the tour link, but we're super excited. We're bringing the ContrologyBrad Crowell 6:39 Aso on the return trip we're working out Albuquerque and potentially (inaudible).Lesley Logan 6:43 You're correct. I was like we're missing some states. So um, so here's the deal. First of all, we're celebrating New Year's Day in Austin which fuck yeahBrad Crowell 6:51 Yeah, it's their first time doing that.Lesley Logan 6:54 It's our first time doing any... No, we did a New Year's Eve.Brad Crowell 6:57 Once we were in Miami. Lesley Logan 6:58 We did a New Year's Eve classes in Scottsdale, the very first tour. And Miami was not the (inaudible), Miami was two days off. Brad Crowell 7:06 No, no, I just I'm talking about not being home for New Year's. But yes, you're right.Lesley Logan 7:11 Yeah. So but what we're super excited about is our host in Austin at Alliance Studios. She's so fucking stoked. She's like, we're doing this we're making this a big party. Brad Crowell 7:20 She's really making it a big event. We're stoked on that. That's gonna be amazing. Cannot wait. Lesley Logan 7:25 I can't think of a better way to bring in the new year except for to be in the community and bringing communities together. What a great, like, if you think of like a word for your year, what a great thing. So this is our favorite thing to do. We're trying to do two tours a year. They happen because you come that's really what it is like, yeah, we can't make we're not going to tours if people don't want them. But so if you go to opc.me/tour, you can see where we have tickets left, sell. And if you have friends in any of those areas, tell them about it. Yeah, there's lots of prizes, lots of awesome stuff.Brad Crowell 7:51 Also, Lesley makes the most hilarious point that it's the best way to take a break from your family come to our class for the holidays.Lesley Logan 7:58 Oh, I do say that like if you need an excuse you can get, for my Pilates teachers out there, if you need an excuse, you can get (inaudible) on these workshops, they're 90 minutes, I can give you a little extra time away from them. And classes. Anyone can come. So if you just feel like I'm coming with you, and they won't leave you alone and they won't do all the errands with you. Lesley Logan 7:59 Tell them you have to buy your own tickets.Lesley Logan 8:17 They can come to class, that could be your Christmas present to them. Brad Crowell 8:20 That's true. Lesley Logan 8:20 Boom. So anyways, that's what we're so we're literally, as you could hear, we're literally reading the New Year on this winter tour thanks to our sponsors, Balanced Body and Contrology. And then, in January, we kick off eLevate round four at the time of recording this we have a couple spots left. So if you are a teacher who's tired of feeling like an imposter, exhausted for pre-planning, you feel like you're talking all the time and you're ready for burnout. I want to teach you how to not burn out I want you to teach I want to teach you how to not have to class but I want to teach you how to use less words and make a bigger impact. So come to lesleylogan.co/elevateBrad Crowell 8:52 All the things that she just said about what what you take away. That's like, we've had almost 40 people go through the program at this point. and consistently that's what they're so fired up about. Lesley Logan 9:05 Yeah, we see them so many hours. Brad Crowell 9:08 The're also so much more confidence across the different pieces of equipment. And they don't have to class-plan anymore. And they know what they're talking about. Lesley Logan 9:16 Yes. And it's myBrad Crowell 9:18 Good stuff.Lesley Logan 9:18 I love it. I'm only doing one round next year, so there's only 12 spots. So get on that. I don't want you to wait till 2025. Cambodia early bird will open up in January but only to those on the waitlist you're gonna want to go to lesleylogan.co/retreats to hear about that awesome early bird we just talked about the early bird, how much are they going to save if they're on the list? Brad Crowell 9:24 600 bucks. Lesley Logan 9:28 $600. My goodness. Brad Crowell 9:38 So get on that list. logan.co/retreats Lesley Logan 9:41 And by the way, if this is your first time you're here and you're still listening, hello, L-E-S-L-E-Y is how you spell my name.Brad Crowell 9:54 Yeah. L-E-S-L-E-Y logan.co/retreats (lesleylogan.co/retreats). Lesley Logan 9:58 So I just hit my chin on my mic and anyway, so Mini 10 will be the next big thing that you can participate in with us. If you are a teacher at any level studio owner, it is going to be somewhere in the beginning part of Q1 or like I think it's the end of June. It's probably I think it's beginning of February. Brad Crowell 10:13 It's the first, it's like the last day of Jan into Feb. Lesley Logan 10:16 Yeah, because the truth is, y'all, I'm not doing mini anymore on my birthday.Brad Crowell 10:21 Right.Lesley Logan 10:23 It's my show. Welcome. So profitableBrad Crowell 10:28 profitablepilates.com/mini. Lesley Logan 10:31 So go there if you want to have seven days of every fucking question you've ever had answered in saying clarity on your business and really seeing possibility and again, community, it is the common theme of this podcast. Alright, that's enough of that. Before we get into Michael's amazing episode, what is our audience question?Brad Crowell 10:51 This was a good one. We had someone in our coaching group, fitness business coaching group called Agency asked, well, she's excited about getting an assistant, but she's also afraid of it. And she said, I don't know. She said two things. I've been hesitating on getting an assistant because I don't really know how we'll work with them. But I think that that's an excuse because I don't, like she said, who am I to have an assistant? Lesley Logan 11:24 Yeah, this is a common can I just say, when I hired Lindsay, my first assistant, I really was like, I knew I needed her. I was like, could not keep going without her. But I actually had no idea how to. I was like, is it okay, would you mind doing blah, blah? Would you mind trying to, she's like, I'm your assistant, this is my job, give me the things to do. And I was like, that's really helpful. Thank you. Brad Crowell 11:49 Yeah, well, there's two, there's two parts to her question. One is like, how do you work with an assistant? How do you decide what your assistant should do? How do you manage them? How do you delegate? Like, can you delegate? Have you ever even done it before? But you knowLesley Logan 12:02 Well, the more important, the easier part of the question to answer on this podcast because the rest, we,that's more complicated and an hour-long course we've already done is who are you to have an assistant?Brad Crowell 12:12 Right. I was gonna say all those things are just simple, easy to learn. No problem. Just figure it out.Lesley Logan 12:17 You can almost even Google it, you should probably ask chatGPT what to do. Brad Crowell 12:21 But that's not the hard part. The hard part is feeling worthy of hiring someone you know, and feeling like your small business is, you know, like, like, maybe you've never considered yourself like a manager, or maybe even considered yourself a CEO that has a team in suddenly, this seems intimidating. And I think that, you know, what we ultimately talked about what was that it's not, who is she trying to impress by hiring an assistant? Right? Because it's like, does she think that she's going to be judged? By whom? By other random people? If she's like, oh, yeah, I have an assistant. You know, like, what, why, what? Who are those people? And is that the are you out there trying to impress them with your, you know, with your hiring someone? Or are you trying to make your fucking life easier and better? Yeah. But well, who are you doing it for? Are you doing it for you? Are you doing it for them? If you're doing it for you, then it doesn't matter what they think and question of who am I to have an assistant? You know, you're clearly asking that, in the light of someone else is going to see that you have an assistant and you're going to feel judged. Do you know what I mean? Lesley Logan 13:42 I do I do know what you mean. I also think like, I also think even even not even think about yourself, the people that you are here to make an impact on the people that you believe you're here to service, this dream you have if you also just think about the impact you want to have. And going back to like Rory's episode, Rory talked about, like, not focusing on the money, but focus on servicing others. And I actually think if you focus on the fact that if you can't get all the things you want done in a day, because you don't have enough time you're human, then hire an assistant allows you to have a bigger impact on the people that you are the only person who can do what you do the way that you do it. You're it. So almost making it less about you and more about the people that you're trying to serve and how the assistant actually facilitates that service being bigger, broader. Yeah, then you're an asshole if you don't hire this student. You're a selfish prick.Brad Crowell 14:52 I mean, that's a harsh way of looking at it. But you know, I don't I don't agree worry that you're being an asshole. But I do think that you're getting in your own way to accomplish your dreams. Lesley Logan 15:05 Allright, be the kind of coach. But yes, I do. But I do think you're getting in your own way you're correct there. And also, you're also holding yourself back and not helping those people because you can only do so much. Yeah, that's it. And I don't know, I don't even know who the people are, who would judge you for having an assist? Brad Crowell 15:24 Well, that's what I mean, like, like, and that's, and that's where you have, that's where you're getting in your own way. Like, most people are not doing running a business so that they can like, show it off to their friends and be like, you know, I hired an assistant and then are gonna feel guilty that they hire an assistant because they're gonna feel like they're judged because their friends are gonna look at him differently or something. I don't think that most people are I think it's just a story that they're telling themselves. Lesley Logan 15:47 Yeah, yeah. Also, I can't think Jamie Kern Lima, she wrote a book. She's like, someone who made I can't think of the name of the makeup line that she sold to one of the big companies, but she actually talked about how she had a made-up assistant. So she actually used her middle name, and made that person, the assistant. And so and customer service. So like, until she could afford an assistant. She was like she had a fake assistant, because that way people would think that she was a bigger deal. So it's pretty funny, I share this story because like it actually might have an assistant might make you look like an even bigger deal because (inaudible) Brad Crowell 16:25 Yeah, but I think most people like most of the people that we coach have an assistant and you don't even know it. That's not the point. They're not they're like, you know, they're not fielding their emails for them. They're not, you know, they're probably helping them with, like, smaller tasks that like that pile up, there's just little things that like switching gears 50 times takes up a lot of your brain space and time. And those are the things that you can easily delegate to somebody else. There are certainly assistants who are responding to your emails on your behalf. And they're more public facing assistants and like I get that with with that does make you look like a quote unquote big deal. You know, but like, I mean, we have an assistant to his name is August. Oh, yeah, he does. He responds our emails.Lesley Logan 17:13 He also, but I so I think like, if you are holding off hired an assistant because you don't feel worthy enough to have an assistant, then it's really time for you to focus, refocus, like why are you doing what you're doing? And who is for Yeah, and how is not hiring the assistant affecting them negatively? Sure. Because oftentimes, the people who think this way, and this is not the first person who's ever felt this way we've we've seen this question a different ways before. You're thinking about you. Right? And you're not thinking about the people you're trying to serve. Yeah. And go back to Lori's episode, if you want to hear that, because that's really important. And then the other thing is, is like keeping not having an assistant is allowing you to have excuses to not take yourself to the next level. Yeah, because you don't have time to work on these other things. And then if you don't have time to work on those other things, and they can't fail. So yeah, it's a sign of perfectionism.Brad Crowell 18:12 Yeah, I was gonna say ADHD, we keep ourselves we work better under stress. Or at least we tell ourselves to work better under stress. And when you have a million things on your plate, you feel like you're getting things done, but you're actually not moving the ball forward, because you're not focusing on the things that need to actually move forward. So you can delegate the things that are the have to get done still menial tasks that aren't actually gonna move the business forward to an assistant. Lesley Logan 18:38 So, so hire the assistant. Hire them. Yeah, the worst thing is you hire the wrong one. And you have to hire someone else.Brad Crowell 18:44 Yeah. And that'll teach you how to set processes in place. Lesley Logan 18:48 Yeah, you can watch the hiring, firing course we have on Profitable Pilates. Thank you for the question. You guys, you can send your questions in on any topic to the Be It Pod and just send them in and we'll answer it. You know, it's important if you have something burning on your head and you want us to answer it, we'll do it.Brad Crowell 19:37 Okay, now let's talk about Michael Unbroken. Michael Unbroken, turning trauma into triumph has dedicated his life to guiding others on the journey from victimhood to hero through Think Unbroken.Lesley Logan 19:53 One thing that he said that I loved was we talked about, we did a lot of things But we talked about making intent being intentional and like not being a flake. And I think it takes time in your life and you still start to learn how you who you want to say yes to. And I think sometimes people say yes to too many things. And then they regret saying yes. And that's why they flake out on things. Or they, they don't like they're, they don't really know what their boundaries are. But we, as friends do not flake on each other. And it's because we really value each other's time, we value our time. And so even though like right now, my goal has been traveling, and we text he texted the two of us the other day, and he's like, Okay, I'll be home on these dates. And it's like, Okay, we're here on these dates. Okay, we'll be making sure we see each other on those dates. And it's, it's part of valued friendships. And if you want to have good friends in this world, it's not about waiting to the other person invites you to something. It's going okay, I'm free on this day. On this time. Let's do it. And I think that that does require some organization. But also, if you find that you're flaking on a lot of people or some person over and over, it's probably time to reevaluate that relationship. And like, do you feel safe there? Does it make you is? I think also, a lot of women specifically keep friends around forever and ever and ever, and they don't always make them feel good. Like I'm thinking about like, the artists way they talk about like crazy makers, and I get the other one. There's another one poison poison his pals. You are correct. I have I had a poisonous palette now. I couldn't remember what Fuck yeah, we moved to Las Vegas the place in his pal can't be there. Fucking places. Powell would text me at exactly the worst time like stache fucking No, right. And so what I did is I just stopped responding for days. And then I'd run like two weeks later, I go, Oh, my God, I miss this. But it was partly because I didn't, I didn't want to, like have the conversation with her. Like, we're breaking up as friends. But so this is my own thing I've to work through as well. But I never flaked on her. Never did but I also would regret any do something. So I think if you are just finding that there's people in your life that you're like, I could have taken this person, evaluate what's going on, have you outgrown the relationship because you should have relationships in your life that you don't flake on each other on and be and be intentional about it. The other thing that he talked about, about why he's very much more of an intentional person is that he had a friend had a falling out, and he never got to apologize. And that person was killed. Yeah, or killed himself. I know he was killed, he was killed. So um, those kinds of things really wake you up sometimes. And I think we don't have to have bad stuff happened to us, for us to learn a lesson we can learn from other people's stories.Brad Crowell 22:34 Yeah. And you know, I mean, it was a pretty shocking story that he shared, you know, about his friend, but also, there was an underlying current to that conversation that I found really, I connected with was like, Are you you know, is? Is there a reason why? If you're not doing something, like you have a task to do, but you're not doing it? Are you? Are you afraid? Or is it making you feel like there's some reticence for you to do it, it's the same thing with people, you know, like, like, hanging out with someone or, or not hanging out with them. Feel that, see that? Understand that. And then you don't have to hang out with that person. So that when you meet the right people that are going to support you believe in you, and actually be part of your journey. It's so important to keep them around. And that's where making the intention of not flaking on each other. Like you don't have to. You don't have to make this commitment to people who don't support you. Back, you know, but definitely, this is worth making this commitment for people who are your cheerleaders, your best these they actually communicate to you they are also looking forward to hanging out with you. You don't have to chase them around.Lesley Logan 24:05 I share this And FYI, if I recently like when, because I was in when we're in Cambodia, I didn't have any calls with any of my friends. I barely texted them. Most of them are 14 hours ahead. I assume they're on d&d, but like I was like, I'm not able to like pick up a phone call. Um, you know, I was like, I'm on a free schedule here. And I realized I really missed our weekly go back and forth, like, you know, voice to text and everything so, or voice memos. So I became really intentional. As soon as I got back I voice memo to each one. And then I've made sure I've done that each week. They're not on the same day because I can't handle the responses on the same day but like they're each one on a different day. And I do that because they support me back their cheerleader, and they don't require me to be at their beck and call to be a friend to them. Nor do I so I think that that's really cool. And I like that you brought that up like people do want to be that so be that back because then that relationship continue. is to grow. And also one more thing before we go on to your points. Time is one variable we don't get more of. And I think this is really key you and I were doing a workshop this past week, where it's like, there's an abundance of money and energy and a lot of things that can be recreated. But time isn't one of them. And I guess my question to everyone listening to this, especially as we're going into the end of the year, while we don't set goals as we know from last week's episode, what was the resolutions I should say? What is what Where are you spending time in your life that you're wishing you didn't spend time on some things and maybe reflecting upon that and seeing like, how you can be more intentional with the time you do spend on things and letting go or saying no, or eliminating or delegating things where you don't want to be spending your time? That could be a really good question to ponder as you go into the end of the year.Brad Crowell 25:56 Something worth thinking about.Lesley Logan 26:00 I feel like that needs like some special music something with like, I don't know, like it needs like gold music.Brad Crowell 26:06 What are we what are we talking here? We'd like epic.Lesley Logan 26:10 No, you know, like, you know, like, not Brad Crowell 26:12 Like opera, something worth thinking about? Lesley Logan 26:18 I don't know. I don't I don't know. But I You know how like, sometimes people place like different voiceovers and it's like, you know, like a little fairy godmother like something we're thinking about.Brad Crowell 26:26 That's something we're thinking about. Lesley Logan 26:30 All right, what did you love? I don't know why I pictured Mr. Clean and I like a little like, like a little flicker of a light off of your teeth just happen. Brad Crowell 26:42 Oh, that's funny. I was envisioning like Dick Tracy smoking a cigarette and you went like and that's something worth thinking about.Lesley Logan 26:50 I know, you went like SVU like CSI introductory. And IBrad Crowell 26:56 And that, ladies and gents, is something worth thinking about. Lesley Logan 27:01 No. No, all I see is a dead body. All right, let's move on to what you like. Brad Crowell 27:05 Okay. All right. So Michael talked about skills have utility. And I thought that's interesting. What the hell does utility mean? And so I looked it up. Lesley Logan 27:15 Well, like there's a utility closet at the schools where the janitor (inaudible). Brad Crowell 27:19 Yeah, but that's a weird thing to say, skills have utility, right? And so I wanted to understand why he used the word utility. And what he meant by that. And so I looked it up and utility actually has, you know, usefulness right as utility but also functional rather than attractive. Which leads to his bigger point, where maybe you have the skill, but if you don't use the fucking skill, it's useless. You're not like,Lesley Logan 27:48 It's like having all of the things like in the car, like the car does all these things, but you don't know how to use it. Like, I'm picturing you guys on the flight home. I saw somebody on another screen was watching pretty woman. I was like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna watch that. To help me fall asleep, right? Because that's, I know that movie from my heart. And pretty like Julia Roberts character goes like, Ah, this baby corners like it's on wheels. It does this. And he is like, I don't know what any of that means. He knows nothing. So it's like, he's in this fucking fancy car. And he literally can't drive it. He can't drive it. Yeah, he has. He has no idea how to use it. Yeah. And like, she's just like, just so anyways, I think that that is like the perfect picture of skills (inaudible). Brad Crowell 28:29 Yeah. Merely possessing a skill is not enough. It's crucial to know how to leverage that skill effectively. Right? And that is applicable in business, but it's also applicable in personal relationships.Brad Crowell 30:14 It could just be that you, you know, maybe you're amazing at spreadsheets and you're not actually using that to make, do analytical work for your business. But it's not necessarily, skills aren't only business, right? It could be that skills are relationship skills, personal skills, maybe your skill is that you're amazing at winning people over or maybe you're great at greeting people. And you should be, you know, leading a community. Right. So there's, there's ways to use skills in your personal life, not just in your work life. Yeah. Lesley Logan 30:48 And I also think, like, you may have amazing skills in your personal life, that you're not even using your work life because you don't see your skills and your personal life as a skill. You see it as like, This is who I am.Brad Crowell 30:59 Right? That was me for a long time. Lesley Logan 31:01 Yeah. So we've talked about Strength Finders, 2.0. Brad Crowell 31:04 Yeah, I was literally about to shift over to that, because that's exactly right. Lesley Logan 31:07 It's been on my mind. But we had we did an interview with someone on that. So definitely worth learning about if you want to know about that. But even not that you can even just ask your friends and families like, like, Hey, can you just like, like, can you just do me a favor and tell me like, what you love that I do in this relationship? Or like I know this vulnerable, but just ask what people think is your greatest skill are your greatest asset. Your friends are not you're too close to you. So you need people. And you also judge yourself too fucking much. So you need people in your life who just like oh my god, they're so fucking awesome. And they can help you understand like, what amazing skills you have. Why my dad Brad Crowell 31:46 Kevin Kepple. Brad Crowell 31:46 Yeah, Kevin Kepple. Oh, yeah, the basement in the balcony. So.Lesley Logan 31:48 Episode 155 y'all. Lesley Logan 31:48 Oh, wow. That was so long ago. He's fucking awesome. But one thing that, like, my dad's a coach, right, that's what he did in his life. And probably would have done had he had the opportunity as a as a job. At any rate. He is really good. I've watched him be really awesome at noticing skills that like my siblings have that they don't know that they have, like, they're just naturally gifted at these certain things, you know? And unfortunately, telling them that just meant that they would like quit the thing. But at any rate, like your friends and family in your life, see something in you that you probably don't see. And you don't ask the ones that are your poisonous pals or negative nancies. Or you're crazy makers. But the ones that you just like, feel like you feel alive after you leave them. Those are the ones to maybe ask like, what do you see as a strength of mine? Because it might be something you could be using to affect? You know, you could leverage more. Lesley Logan 31:48 Yeah, that's very true. Yeah.Lesley Logan 33:18 Don't ask the high schools ask the good ones. That's the quote art. Don't ask me is amazing. Meaning this holiday season. Don't ask your fucking crazy aunt who you wish you weren't sitting next to you at the dinner table. Ask the person that you wish you were. There you go.Brad Crowell 34:01 Okay, finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Michael Unbroken? Lesley Logan 34:13 Oh, yeah. Now you need someone to put that to the voice thing? Yes. Okay. What's your favorite?Brad Crowell 34:21 He said, commit to your goals, commit to your dreams. Who is who it is that you want to be? Commit to who it is that you want to become? Right? And, you know, he talked a lot about the difference in who he was. Before he. In his words, he said he had had enough of his own bullshit and needed to change. Right and I thought that was really fucking interesting at some point for him. That will, it's, it's also it is important for him. But it's also like, there that is the breaking point where it's like, you can't even stand you You know, or you can't stand the circumstances that you've created for yourself so much that it forces you to reevaluate how you're doing things. Right. So I thought that was really interesting. And, and then he, you know, talked about how he's much different today than when he was before. And consequently has dreams and goals that he's continuing to go after, such as the 10 Times New York Times 10 time, New York Times bestselling best authors situation, right. And, you know, like, that helps drive him helps him stay focused. And you know, it gives you it gives you a reason to keep going. Lesley Logan 35:44 Yeah, I want him to, Michael, if you're listening, when thinking about your book that you haven't published yet, that you've written and rewritten a few times. I think you need to fucking write the book. Like maybe you are a 10-time best seller, not because you wrote 10 books, because you wrote 20. My like that I was like, percolating on that. And it like, you know, was playing them overplaying in my mind. And I was like, why does this bother me? I'm like, oh, because he's trying to make it fucking perfect to be the best seller. Maybe he's not maybe I'm maybe that's my own, like little antennas.Brad Crowell 36:17 I mean, a lot of the people that we coach, they, they, it's a reason not to launch. Yeah, right. So because it's not perfect, or they're not really sure. Alternatively, the other option would be to keep going. And honestly, your first few books may not be the big ones that hit. But the last 10 books are probably gonna be fucking amazing. Because you've now done it so many times. Lesley Logan 36:43 I'm not gonna mention her name, because I don't love her as a person. But her her book that became a best-seller was her fourth book. May I just say, because I actually looked at the other books, because I didn't actually love it. And it was a best fucking seller. And everyone's raving about it. And I was like, this book is boring. But other books, and they're fucking awesome. And so just say that because like, Michael if you're listening, write, the fucking book, maybe write 20 books, and there's 10 bestsellers in there. I'm just saying, you get feedback, right? You get feedback, and you get people on (inaudible), my advice. Lesley Logan 37:13 So he said, if you're dogmatic about anything, there's no room for opportunity. And the danger of a fixed mindset is that you're too rigid or dogmatic and pimper you from growth and learning and to be solution oriented. So instead of looking for roebucks, look for possibility. And I think this is really great. This just happened in one of inside of agency, we have a channel where you can ask for exercise advice. And this person was like, I don't know if I can handle this client. She only has one arm. And I was like, Oh, she's seen the one arm as a roadblock. And I see as like, possibility. And I actually said to her, like, my favorite clients have like something dramatic. Like I'm not really good with like minor aches and pains. Like I love like when I love a cast, I love or, like, Yes, I have my dentist and my dentist client, he had this condition where the tendons in his hands pulled and his feet looked like he had claws. Yeah. And his shoulders run forward. I love that because I I broke my knee, right, I (inaudible) tibial plateau. And for that first day, I was in fear and all these things. And then I went to the studio is like what is possible from right now. And that's what we say at OPC all the time. Lesley Logan 38:16 And so I love this Be It Action item. Because first of all, if you're dogmatic about anything, you are creating a cold for yourself or you're in one, period. Second, you are only seeing roadblocks, you are not being solution-oriented. So I think that that's a really great like little be solution-oriented, like put that on a post-it and put it somewhere you can watch it, read it. And then instead of roadblocks, look for a possibility. So for for me when I see a client who's like, I can't do this. I'm like, okay, what can you do? Right? So when we teach OPC classes, I'm like, oh, you can't do this. What can you do? What wasn't actualized was a challenge for you. So the more you can look, start to see things as green lights versus red. I think you're gonna see that your life has a lot more opportunity in it. And you're actually there's like people who are creating pathways for you. So anyways, I fucking love you, Michael. We are happy that you're a family member in our life. Absolutely.Lesley Logan 39:10 I'm Lesley Logan Brad Crowell 39:11 And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 39:12 Thank you so much for listening. Episode 299. You know, I actually, when we started this, I was like, What's 300 gonna feel like? I had no idea. And I'm gonna tell you right now. It feels really great. And also how, the fact did we do that? How did time fly?Brad Crowell 39:27 It still feels like it's fast. Lesley Logan 39:29 Feels fast. Brad Crowell 39:30 Yeah, it's kind of crazy. Lesley Logan 39:30 Yeah, anyways, we have some epic, epic episodes, I highly recommend going back through You can use the website to search different topics and find theBrad Crowell 39:38 Yeah, we got a handy-dandy little guy that helps point you in the direction of some of our best pods. So if you're not quite sure where to get started, but you've made it all the way to the end of this episode. Go to the website and try out our little tool. Lesley Logan 39:53 Also, if you listen to the pod and you haven't left a review yet, the greatest gift you can get is to leave a review. Brad Crowell 39:58 You must do it. 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Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Michael's unique experiences that influenced his perspectives.The role of skills in aiding personal development.The disadvantage of dogmatic thinking on the path to self-discovery.The value of stepping out of routine to gain fresh perspectives.The transformative power of committing to personal aspirations.Episode References/Links:Follow Michael IGMichael's Think Unbroken WebsiteListen to the Think Unbroken PodcastGet the book, The Big Leap, by Gay HendricksGet the book, The Top Five Regrets of the Dying, by Bronnie WareGuest Bio:Michael Unbroken, Founder of Think Unbroken, is a best-selling author, speaker, podcast host, coach, and advocate for trauma survivors. From a challenging childhood marred by trauma and abuse, Michael spiraled into substance abuse and obesity. However, a pivotal moment in his mid-20s propelled him to rise from victimhood to become the hero of his own narrative. Since 2016, he has empowered over 100,000 survivors to transform their lives. 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Most people do not have skills that actually matter. Right? That actually like you can be really good at video games. But like, how does that transition into? I'm not saying you can't be successful, like at playing video games? Because you certainly can. But like when you're trying to build something in your life, how do you leverage the skills that you have that you're really good at?Lesley Logan 0:24 Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. All right, Be It Babe, I am so excited because we have one of my dearest friends like, I probably like I feel like he's a brother from another mister and mother. But he's totally family to Brad and I, it's Michael Unbroken. And we've had him on the podcast before, in fact, one of your favorite podcasts to listen, we got so many reviews, I got so many DMs about that episode. And so I brought him back. And it's just really fun. Because he's a dear friend, we got to go really deep on some conversations and, and share some of our own things. So I hope that you enjoy hearing this conversation about integrity and goals and taking time for yourself and like your worth. We talked about a lot of things. And so I really hope you enjoy it. I also want to say that there are stories in our lives that can be triggering to some people. And so if that does happen just forward, you know, and please, you won't offend us, make sure you take care of yourself and honor that about you. But I do think it's important that you do hear about how Michael grew up, or how I've grown up, because it's so easy to look where we are right now. And think that we have it all together. And it's and it must be nice for us. And the truth is, is that like we've made decisions along the way, that put us in situations that we were in and got us out of situations we're in and also put us where we are today. And I really think it's important that you know that the grass isn't always greener on the other side it's probably Astroturf anyways, at this point, and also people's lives are from choices they made. And you might not know the whole story. But you are allowed to have what you want. You are allowed have the life that you want, you are worthy of those things. And I do hope that this conversation really does help you see that and helps you understand how people like us have made decisions and gotten where we are. And we hope that for you. So here is Michael Unbroken. All right, Michael, welcome back.Michael Unbroken 3:10 YoLesley Logan 3:10 I'm so excited you're here, in the flesh. Michael Unbroken 3:13 Real life.Lesley Logan 3:14 I know. I love. I love actually doing these in person. I know you do most of your interviews in person, but I actually think it's quite fun. And it's also not so nice. I have a friend who lives in Vegas come over to do this interview. You when we last had you on you were living in Denver. So what's new?Michael Unbroken 3:30 Well, I mean living here, kind of I guess quasi right. Being on the road all the time makes it feel very difficult. But I've just come to accept like, that's my reality. Like, I like being on the road. I mean, you get it right, because you're on the road all the time.Lesley Logan 3:45 Yeah, I think you I think, I don't know, I think you choose your choices. Like that's kind of my thing. So like, I don't want people like, oh my God, you're so busy. I'm like, I chose all these things. So like, I don't really feel comfortable. Like, I'm not gonna complain about it. Because if I complain, it means I want to change something. And if I don't change it, then I'm not gonna complain about it. Michael Unbroken 4:04 I watched, have you ever seen Up in the Air? That George Clooney movie? (inaudible) fires people. Yes, there's a scene where he's like in the lounge, taking out all the cards out of his wallet. He's got I got this card, and this card, and this rewards card and that card and I was just like, that's my life. And, and there's a scene where like, this new girl has come into the company, and they're gonna try to make everything virtual. This is like a road warrior. And he's like, I don't want to do that. And that's how I feel. Because I love I love the adventure. You know? And it's like, that's part of the choice that we make in everything. It's not that it's not difficult. I mean, there's sacrifices, right? Because it's like, if you want to go be this person, it hurts friendships, it hurts relationships, it hurts having a normal life, but also the ones that you have are better in this weird way, because you're actually like here. Lesley Logan 4:57 Yeah, I think first of all, I think it's like It really changed. You have to be more communicative with the people in your life like, this is the life I live in. This is how I can hang out with you. And this is how I can spend time with you. And when I'm with you, this is how I will show up, I promise. But it forces communication, and some people don't like it like, I, people in my family, you travel so much, you never see us. And it's like, well, it's so they never see you. It's just I don't see you as much as you probably would like, and that would make you feel comfortable. But we don't always get what we want. And as long as I'm like operating in integrity, and I'm communicative with you, I think we can make it work. But I also find that I have tried doing nothing we did in the pandemic like I did, I stood around here for two years and didn't really go a lot of places. And there was something nice about being home and having a routine. But I love it on the road. So I have tried to figure out like a balance, like I don't think I go on the road as much as you I'm like, one trip a month is plenty, two trips a month, I'm like it better, wherever I'm going, number two better be amazing.Michael Unbroken 6:12 Well, but also like, if you think about it, it's a choice, we've decided to do this, I decided that I'm going to be the one who gets on the plane and go to seven cities in a month and speak at all these events and blah, blah, blah. But at the same time, if you think about it, when we make intention, like we had lunch together two weeks ago or whatever, we we don't flake on each other. Like here it is like we're going to do this. And I think a lot of people don't take advantage of the time that they actually have with people. And they reschedule and they cancel. And they're like all do it this time. And then we'll see you next time. And you know, and people always will go, oh, it's not a big deal that you canceled on. And I'm like, actually, it's a freakin huge deal. Like you, you have to understand like time, time is the one variable we don't get more of. And so I'm like, if I make plans with my friends, you know this, I have guys' night, Brad comes to it, it's like I have all these different things in my life where it's like I try to build this framework of time knowing that it's really the only thing that because I can't get back it has to take precedent over everything. So I'm with you. I'm present with my friends I'm present, like I'm not in whatever other element of life I could be in in that moment. Lesley Logan 7:29 I love that you brought it up not flaking on each other because I I actually was looking back at our our text messages. And it was all I saw were like dates. Like we're like sending each other dates back and forth, to have an intentional opportunity to actually hang out.So I was looking back at our text message. And we were very intentional on dates, we sat and we've talked about a couple of our friends who will sort of flake out on things. And it's like, I just, I don't make plans with you. Yeah, it's really, and that's kind of, I think it's hard for a lot of people who are people pleasers, or like they want to be liked. And it's like, of course, I don't want people to hate me. But I also have to understand that if I'm set aside the precious time that I have in town to be with you or to be wherever I am, if I'm coming into your town, I'm going to be there. If I set that aside, it means I'm not doing something with anyone else, including I'm not doing anything for myself. I'm just doing something to hang out with you. So if you're going to flake, it happens, it's I'm not asking for perfection. But be honest. And really make sure you let me know as soon as possible. You know, I mean, it's not like we're perfect, but I do think the intention is there and when you do have to reschedule something, you know, being intentional about how you reschedule that not like, hey, let's reschedule for another day. It's like, okay, well, that's never gonna happen.Michael Unbroken 9:11 Like how integress are you? Right? Where's your level of integrity? That's what I think about with it. Because especially and like I get like not most people don't live lifestyles like us, right? And that's fine. And you don't have to like if you do the nine to five thing, cool. But like still, it's like, why are you flaking on your friends when this? Everything changed for me in like, I guess it was probably eight years ago now. Nine years ago. I got a text from one of my buddies and he's like, hey, Wasn't this your friend? And he sends me a link to an online news article. My childhood best friend Seth, this guy that I did everything with from the time that we were like 11 years old. Have I told you this story? So Seth and I grew up very very similar circumstances his dad was this crazy alcoholic. His mom was working like three jobs. We both go to the same elementary school, we go to the same high school for a period of time, we both played football together wrestled everything like we're best friends. Actually, the first tattoo I ever got was with him. We went and you know, this is 2004. We're dead broke, we have no money, he found a way to make money. And one day he calls me he's like, hey, you know, we can go make $150 if we sell our plasma? Yes, that's true. You can. So we went well. And this is, you know, 20-something years ago, where not only do we go sell the plasma once we do it like three times in one day.Lesley Logan 10:41 Can you sell that much? Michael Unbroken 10:42 No, of course not. But like everything was paper that it wasn't all digitized. So, we're gonna make all this money. And we go get these tattoos. So I have a matching tattoo with him. And he's working a job at this Johnny Rockets downtown Circle Center Mall, Indianapolis, flipping burgers, doing fries, whatever. I had just gotten a job at a Wendy's. And I was a general manager in training. So making 36 grand a year at 18 years old. Lesley Logan 11:09 That's millions of dollars for an 18-year-old.Michael Unbroken 11:13 Not only that, but if you look at 2004 that's probably 100 grand a year. Like it's real money. Yeah, I'm on my own. I have my own car, my own place, everything. And he's fucking flipping these burgers. And I'm like, dude, fuck that. Come work over here. I'll get you a job. Now I got him the interviewer he ends up getting himself the job. Well, three weeks into it. He just stops coming. And I would, think about that, I'm 18, I put my name on the line, I'm like, we're about to get a $500 bonus or whatever. And, and I come to find out, he's back at Johnny Rockets, fucking flipping burgers, making $4 an hour or whatever. I was irate. Like, you have no idea how mad I was. Now I look at it differently. I'm like, Well, we're on our own path. Like it's not up to me what he does. I stopped talking to him, replying to him, text messages, AIMs, you know, (inaudible) Myself, My Spaces, nothing and he would call me all the time for years. And nothing. I was so mad at this guy. And he was my best friend, he's like my brother. And I get this text from another mutual friend. I'm like 29-30 years old. And it's a link to a news article in the Indy Star, Indiannapolis man shot dead in his living room. Lesley Logan 12:36 Oh my God.Michael Unbroken 12:37 And somebody had walked into Seth's house, it's a bad drug deal gone bad. And just blew his fucking brains out. Close cast it whole nine. And it took I still don't know that. I'm entirely like through that. Yeah. But that moment shifted everything for me because I was like, I never get to apologize. I never get to fix this. I never get across this bridge. I never this friendship that meant more to me than anything. He was my brother. He was the person that was with me when I got kicked out of the house, when I got expelled from high school, the first time I ever had sex, like it was at his house like, it was like this whole thing. And because I felt my, the ego has such a need to be right, to be wrong, and to be offended. It was all of them. And it took away that relationship. And then my best friend Kevin got murdered. Neither one of my friends get and I was just like, man, like, you've got, your people have to be the most important thing. Because I never get to have that conversation with him. And so when like, I think about the times we schedule or my guys' night, which Brad comes to or when I'm on the road and I make the time, the same for you guys, you guys were on the road and made the time to come hang out with me in Denver. I'm like, I'm gonna show up. Because I don't know if I get tomorrow with you.Lesley Logan 14:00 Yeah, I all of that is really sad. And, and there's those moments that like, really teach us something, you know? And, you know, who knows? If you had answered an AIM, what would have been the change there, but I think, I think it's really important that you kind of we kind of understand ourselves a little bit more and those things, it's like, like, you get to go back and go, how would I wanted to handle that? And it doesn't mean it would have changed any other outcome. But maybe you would have been able to feel like at least I said, my thing because I think anyone listening be like, of course, I would not talk like you put your name on the line, even at 18, even at 40 like that stuff matters you know, so but I do agree. It's like, it's like how can how, what is integrity to us, like what feels integral and how to want to operate there and it doesn't always mean that it will be the right thing. Like, looking back you might be like I felt like it was an integrity then but that didn't go the way I expected it to go. But I think it's we have to have values. I think it goes back to that's one of the values that we have in our lives as for Brad and I, and then also in our business, it's like, if we say, We're gonna do something, and we can't do it, we have to communicate why we can't do it. Otherwise, we're out of integrity. And that, that makes people not trust you or not want to be around you or want not want to participate with you and I, and we all what is life if you don't have these relationships, whether they're in your town where you are or out in the world where you get to be like, I live for the cause I have my girlfriends who don't even live in this town with me. But they get what I do. They understand what I'm going through. And some days, I'm gonna go like yesterday, I had a girlfriend at a coffee date with a girlfriend. And it's been a few months since we talked and she was like, how are you doing? I said, well, to be honest, in this moment, not great. And if we hadn't set this up three months ago, I would still be in bed right now. Because I'm not having a good day. But we had this call. So I'm here and I'm just letting you know, I'm not my best. And she's like, Well, I'm not my best. Let's talk about what's going on. And then what do we each need. And that was such a great moment to have. And because of integrity, because I want to live my life. I showed up for that call. Michael Unbroken 16:00 Yeah, there's like three ways that I, three rules to life. And, and this is for me, and I try to like instill this in my clients. I look for this in my friendships and the people I date and potential relationships, business partnerships, everything. And it's like, number one, are you honest? Number two, do you show up? Even when you don't want to. Because you're like, Fuck, man, I'm no, I'm just having a day. Want to stay in bed, I'm gonna Netflix and chill, whatever, right? And then three is like execute. Do you actually follow through? Right? Because showing up is like being in the room. But executing is like I'm doing the thing. Because you see this you coach people, right? In business and in personal. Yes, people who like you lay out the game plan. And they're in it, and they're hyped up. And they're like, I'm gonna do everything. And then they go home and nothing is different. You know, and so I'm like, are you doing all three of those? And the reason why it's so important to me is like, I used to not do any of that. Like, I mean, you know, my story. People may have listened to me on here before, but it's like, and people who are listening to this on the other podcast, they know my story, like I was a piece of shit. Yeah, you know, when it's like, do you want to be that?Lesley Logan 17:07 Yeah, I think what I love is when I love that you share your story so much, because it allows people to see you can change, like, maybe you felt like you were a piece of shit back then. And like you've look what you've done with your life, and how you and how you're acting. And that execution is so hard. I actually have two calls tomorrow with people who are not executing what they signed up for. And they're not getting, they're seeing everyone in the group surpass them. And so now they're like, double downing on themselves and how not where they want to be. And like, there's a lot of judgment, there's a lot of things that they're saying, and it's like, I hear you like they are going further. And I understand that life is sucking right now. But you also still have to show up for yourself in some capacity. How do you like what are the ways that you help people kind of actually execute not just be in the room? Yeah,Michael Unbroken 17:55 I think well, you know, I try to lead first, right? So it's funny, I was just coaching a client driving over here. And it's like, even if I have to get in the car and drive half an hour to the other side of town, because I have a commitment which I then it's my bad because like, here's what's interesting in this space I'm in right now. Like I'm not a slave to time in the way I normally am, which I think is actually a good thing to be a student of your calendar. I'm just kind of like nonchalant about everything. And I was getting ready to head over here. I was like, oh, I have a coaching call right now. Which isn't the norm, right? But but it's about like, recognizing that you have to do the thing. Right. And sometimes it's like, yeah, make a small pivot. But what I'm always trying to get to, like, at the end of the day, like, if my head is on the pillow, did I do everything I said I was gonna do. And I don't allow myself to go to bed if I didn't. And that's like a consequence. And I think that we need to be able to give ourselves consequences for our lack of action. And I don't necessarily mean like consequences. It's pain, like you don't have to like self-flagellate. Right, but it's like, I'm not going to bed till I'm done. Lesley Logan 19:05 Yeah, I also think that helps you understand, like, how much you can actually promise that you'll do that day, because you're not gonna, you're not gonna want to (inaudible).Michael Unbroken 19:15 I was like, that's too much. Right. But it's all this is about know thyself. It's like, okay, so you're gonna have these coaching call clients tomorrow, like, what about them? Because in my mind, you say that to me, and I go, well, they're trapped. They're stuck in their own mindset, which can be easily solved by taking an action. Yeah. So what are you presenting today? Lesley Logan 19:35 Yeah, I mean, that's, that's what I'm thinking about today. And what I'm going to figure out in the meeting, because the actions that I gave them last time, I thought were so here's what I know as a habits coach, like trained with BJ Fogg. Like on calls. He is the behavior scientist from Stanford. He's the one every Habits book has copied. Michael Unbroken 19:55 Yeah, and you're about those habits too, because you'll text me at like 6:30 in the morning. You're like I'm on the mat. Lesley Logan 20:00 I know I'm like are you on your pet mat? So I, so here's what I know, the people that typically are attracted to the type of work that I do, they're typically perfectionist overachievers, and so they have a really hard time doing little. But what the science shows is that you do not create habits unless you actually achieve, you actually have to complete things, get tough wins, you have to celebrate, you have to be kind to yourself. And so if you are in a judgment shame zone, I promise you, you will never ever, ever create a habit around that thing because your brain's gonna be like, I don't want or that thing brings me shame, it makes me feel stressed, it doesn't make me feel good about myself. So I had thought that the five minutes of taking time for themselves was actionable. And now I think I need to get even more specific, I need them to get more specific with me with what those five minutes are gonna be or what that one is going to be because maybe five minutes to do anything for themselves is almost still too much. And that's okay, like, this is what's so important. I'm not gonna get mad at myself for I'm not gonna go Oh, that was done Lesley, didn't help them enough. It's like, every single person is different. For some people, they need the freedom of those five minutes being anything. And for some people, it needs to be very specific. These five minutes are for me to go for a walk. And it's important that people know themselves and you're not going to know yourself until you make it until you do it in a way it didn't work. Like that's just you won't know maybe, like, you know this about your business. Like, have you ever like done something your business at like, freakin like sores, and you're like, Wow, that was amazing. But then you got to redo it again, it doesn't have the same thing because like, you almost learn better when the idea fails, because you're like, Okay, we could have done that better. We could have done this better. Like when it wins the first time. You're not really sure what was the thing that was the best?Michael Unbroken 21:46 I think that's all life though. I mean, if I go track back everything I've ever done, it's always been like, sometimes things work really well. And sometimes they don't. And I think the hard part about it is like recognizing like it actually doesn't matter at the end of the day. What matters is like, are you still going forward? And I think that's where people get trapped. And so I have the benefit of my side of being a nihilist. Like I don't care about anything, which is really weird, right? There's a juxtaposition. Lesley Logan 22:14 So funny, because I think you would care so much. Michael Unbroken 22:16 Well, there's a juxtaposition I live my life in, right? So think about this. Name your great, great grandpa. Lesley Logan 22:23 OhMichael Unbroken 22:23 Exactly. Right. And so people always are talking about legacy. Like I'm gonna build a legacy I'm gonna build outside of a few outliers. We have some Tony Robbins, and Napoleon Hills and Abraham Hicks and those people will live a bit longer than the average. But most people can't name their great great grandpa, let alone their grandfather. Yeah, but yet we live in this society that pushes legacy go do the thing. And I'm like, it actually doesn't matter. Like at the end of the day, nothing that we do matters. And here's what I hold simultaneously. One that concept paired with everything they fucking do in this moment is the most important thing that I do. Right. And so if you can, like wrap your head around that it's a weird sense of freedom. So like, even though like I build businesses, and I coach people, I speak on the stages, the podcast, blah, blah. It's like, as I look down the tunnel, I got the end of the day, it doesn't actually matter. And we hold ourselves to this account where it's like, man, like it's got to be perfect. Like, no it doesn't. My book here, let me say this real quick, because you'll see why, why I said this. My first book has like a ton of reviews on Amazon, on Barnes and Noble, on Apple. All of them are five stars. The first book, except for one, one, and it's a two-star review. And the person goes, I couldn't get through the book. The grammar is terrible.Oh, I have that review, too. I have Yeah, all fives and then I have that person. Here's why I don't care about the five stars or the two stars. Because I did that for me. I was like, I'm gonna write a fucking book. And I'm gonna write another one. And I'm gonna do another one and then make the podcast and then I'm gonna speak on stages. I'm gonna write coaching programs, I'm gonna do all that. And it's just like, I'm just going to do it. But people who are in that perfectionist mindset, they're trapped in the idea of the other person's opinion is so important that if they get the two-star review, it will cripple them. And I'm just I don't care and so maybe that makes me very nonchalant but you see how I operate in the world?Lesley Logan 24:32 Yeah, cuz I because when I said it's, I think you care a lot. I actually the word care is not that you care about what I think. I feel that you care about the people that you put yourselves in a room with, like whenever I'm in a room with you, or Brad's in a room with you. We can tell that you care about the people in that room in that moment. So you like so I think it's really fascinating. And it goes kind of back to what we've been talking this whole time is that integrity but also that intentionality of like you're you're, you're like, in this moment, this is all that I'm really here that matters. And that once I leave this moment, it, whatever it's over and what anyone says about that moment, whether they were there or not, it doesn't actually pertain to me. Because that moment over and I can't change it.Michael Unbroken 25:15 This is why can't get canceled. Right, right. And I've been attempted to be canceled four times. I'm like, I don't give a fuck. I have a question for you. Because I think this is important. What did you get a two-star review? How do you feel about that?Lesley Logan 25:29 At the time? At the time, I wasn't really ready for it. Anything. well, like I read it, and it was kind of like, exactly the, my worst fear. You know, it was a grammar one and I had an editor go through it. Michael Unbroken 25:44 Why was it your worst fear? Lesley Logan 25:45 Because my grammar isn't awesome. And so like I was I didn't want anyone to see the grammar problems and not get the what the book was about, like I wanted the book to actually help them. And I didn't want the grammar to take away from helping them. So I did hire an editor. They didn't catch everything. No one does not perfect. So when I got that, of course, like it felt like the wind got knocked out of me. Now this is 10 years ago, very different person. And I let the wind get and luckily, I lived in L.A. at the time, and I did drive around at the time. So I was in traffic and I let myself like get the wind knocked out of me. And then I got angry at the person. And I got like whoever this person was, because I was like, fuck you like going to the whole thing. But I was like, Wait a minute. This is not an English book. This is a book to make sure that Pilates instructors stopped getting swindled out of their dollars, because people are selling them ship programs, period. And do the do any of the commas or periods and their fuck up that message. No, they don't. So I wrote back. It's a good thing. I'm not an English teacher, I hope that you don't get swindled out of the wrong programs, you know, and, and good luck on your journey. And I was like and I it did take me the whole day to get there. Now I might expect much quicker. Now I like I laugh so hard, because people on YouTube love to write a ton of shit about me. But my people come for them, which is also a lot of fun. But I think like it also you have to get to a point where you can go I didn't do this. Like I had to get to the point where it's like, Wait, am I didn't do this for that person. I I hadn't done it for me yet. But I absolutely did it to help people. And I and it was a particular group of people and that person, wasn't it. And so I had to like learn whose opinions of me matter. Oh, not that person. It wasn't who he's doing it for. Michael Unbroken 27:26 Yeah. And that's, that goes back to the egos need to be right. Why even give the energy to respond? Oh, yeah, I like and part of it. You want the rebuttal because you be like a fuck your mother. Yeah. Like, that's how I think about. And I and I work really, really hard. Because like, I have very strong opinions like you know, me personally like is there are times where I say shit where most people like, I cannot believe you just said that. And I'm like, why? Like, if we have freedom of speech, and part of being human being is the ability to express who we are. In what I'm not saying there's not consequences, because there certainly are, but I'm like, I'm gonna do it anyway. Yeah. And I think that in that there's, there's, again, I'm gonna tie into that word freedom. When I rebuttal to people, I really take a step back. And I'm like, what does this serve? Right? Because I think that we want to argue and fight and we have this need to be right all the time. And I do too. And it's something that I have to really think about, because there's like seven times a day where I'm like, I need to be right. And a hard part about is I'm right a lot. And so it just fuels my ego more. And then when I'm wrong, which I really appreciate, when somebody will sit across from me and be like, you're looking at it wrong. I learn. And there's power in that. And I think that you have to be willing to be a learner.Lesley Logan 28:49 Yeah. I think that's hard for people. It's like, our entire way that we're educated on this planet on this country that we're we're both in is like to get the A. And it's so pointless, because all it teaches is like don't just copy the Smart kid in class, because, like, why get in trouble. And so you have to be right, when it's like, it's so much more important to value the journey that you got there. And like how you got that answer and like, where that came from. And like, I think that's really hard because people it's not that they want to be. They have to be right in front of you or in front of somebody else. It's they're afraid if they're wrong, then people are going to judge them for being wrong. And it's like, no, it's okay to learn. It's okay to go. Oh, I never thought about that way. That's not the life experience I had. So of course, I didn't think about that way. Thank you for letting me know about a different life experience.Michael Unbroken 29:40 And that's because we think that people are thinking about us. Lesley Logan 29:43 Oh, right. They're not?Michael Unbroken 29:44 They're not. Like, nobody gives a shit about you. I mean, that's a very crass way of saying it but like, realistically, like nobody's thinking about me right now. Lesley Logan 29:54 That is well and that is something that takes a long time for people to even I haven't even read Recently, there was something that was going on around the holidays where I had, like, it felt like everyone was thinking about me, just because a lot of people were reaching out. I am, but because there were people, a lot of people reaching out, which made me think, oh my God, a lot of people are thinking about this. But when it came down to it, I looked at the statistics of what was going on. And I actually looked at things I was like, oh, not many people are thinking about this. And so I'm stressing about what people are thinking about me when really, they're not. And it's such a freeing moment to go. They're not and that's okay, it is okay. What,Michael Unbroken 30:31 like, why did that shift for you? Because like, you're a public figure, like me, you've had your face up on big alas billboards, and you're, you know, this person that people look towards for stuff, whatever that stuff is that you have at the moment. Like, what? I know this about myself, I'm gonna create codecs. But for the question, I know this about myself, I was invisible as a kid. Growing up being homeless, being the worst kid in school being the kid who smelled like garbage, who wore clothes from the goodwill in the church, who was on the the food stamp cards and ever I was invisible. And I played sports. And I was particularly fond of wrestling, because it was me versus one person. And I have a bunch of championships wrestling, because I love being on the podium and being first place. And it was like my, I am fueled by this need to be seen. I know this about I will admit this publicly. Why do I like speaking in front of 10,000 people? Because motherfuckers are paying attention to me. Yeah, right. And so with what you just said, how do you? How do you handle like, okay, I'm this public persona. But at the same time, I recognize people don't think about me. Lesley Logan 31:43 Yeah, I well, first of all, I remember like, I love the Hero's Journey, and I love reminding myself, I'm the guide, not the hero. So I think that that's important.Michael Unbroken 31:54 Context (inaudible).Lesley Logan 31:55 Yeah. So, so in what we do, as coaches as people who have ideas of solutions for problems that people want to have solved, it is so important for people that for people who work with me to understand that they're solving the problem, I'm just presenting an option for them. And like, if you like, here's the option, I can take you across this bridge, but you're still, you're still the one that shines, you're still the one that is the rock star, you're still the one that did it, I cannot do it for you. And so for me, like, that's kind of how I keep it in check. It's like, whoa, hold on. Because if it really bothers me that I'm trying to be the hero of their story. And that's not why I got into this. And that's that, well, that's not sustainable. That's not That's exhausting. And that's like, you have to be too many things that too many people. But as a guide, it's like, well, you can choose me as your guide. Or you could choose you as your guide, or there's like 17 other thousand people in the city that you could choose as your guide. And that's the choice that they have to make. So that's kind of how I do it. And it's and that's not easy when I can see that I am the guide for this person. Like there's that ego like I know, I can help them, then my job is to make sure that my messaging and what I put out in the world makes them feel comfortable for me to be their guide, but I still can't be like me, me, me, me, me. You have to do that yourself. And then I think the other year, we're talking about being seen. I think it's so interesting to go back and wonder why you do things because I do all this stuff so that people belong because I never felt like I belonged. I felt like the weirdest I felt like the weird kid in town. Michael Unbroken 33:21 You are the weird kid. Lesley Logan 33:22 I am still the weird kid.Michael Unbroken 33:23 But I am too. And that's why we get along. Lesley Logan 33:25 Yeah, so like, I again, like because I'm sure people that I grew up with Listen, it's not that I don't think I had friends. It's that I actually just never felt like I was I always felt like the outsider in the group, partly because I did not have money. And I did not have the new clothes. My grandmother was a secretary at an elementary school. And so at the end of every school term, we would go through the clothes that were left behind, because the kids left behind, you know, they had good clothes I had so I had the best jean jackets of the 90s. Like you would have thought I was rich because I had all these jean jackets.Michael Unbroken 33:59 But you're just a year behind.Lesley Logan 34:00 A year behind and they're someone else's that left them behind. But like I just I felt likeMichael Unbroken 34:04 Did you have a moment where a kid came up to you and like, that's my jacket. Lesley Logan 34:07 Thank goodness. No, because Michael Unbroken 34:08 It happened to me once. It was one of the most embarrassing experiences of my entire childhood. It was a Tommy Hilfiger jacket. It was one of those pullovers it was red, white and blue I'll never forget it and I was like, oh my God cuz it was it was in the lost and found and I didn't have a coat because we're fucking poor. And like the one of the teachers gave it to me from Lost and Found a week later this kids like that's my jacket.Lesley Logan 34:30 Ah, that hurts my soul because I do understand that like, so I I do everything to involve community, there has to be community aspect. And it's because like, I just know how important it is to feel like you belong in a group and you're safe in a group and that people miss you and expect you to be in that group. And so that's kind of how I can that's what everything is driven. If you look at anything we do, there's a community to it. There just is we do the FYFs here because I want to, it's the only way I can show the listener communities stuff likeMichael Unbroken 35:03 What does FYF mean?Lesley Logan 35:04 Oh, Fuck Yeah Fridays, do you do this? Michael Unbroken 35:06 No.Lesley Logan 35:07 You should. Michael Unbroken 35:08 What is it? Lesley Logan 35:08 I mean, you celebrate things all the time, so maybe don't need it. But FuckYeah Friday is like if I would love people to celebrate their wins every single day, but most people won't. So on Fridays, you celebrate a win. And I it's even better if it's a small win or a win that like the project is imperfect or it's not completed yet, but I share the listeners' wins. And then I share a win of mine. And and it's like eight minutes long, nine minuteslong, it is super short. And the whole idea is to get people to think about like, Oh, I've never thought about that being a win. That is a win. Like, just people need to celebrate that they've done shit. They've done stuff and they don't give themselves credit for it. Michael Unbroken 35:41 Yeah, they don't. I didn't either. For a long time it was I was speaking on set with me the most so if you know Grant Cardone, yeah. he invested in my company, I had spoken at one of his boot camps it was 10,000 people watching. And it was a pitch competition where I was like a shark tank kind of thing. Where I was pitching Think Unbroken, and what I do, and like, I fucking crushed, I destroyed everybody. It wasn't like, and I'll say this too, because I can sometimes probably come off as like, maybe egotistical, but I just believe in myself more than most people believe in themselves. Like, I'm not Kanye level self-belief. But I'm sometimes I'm pretty close.Lesley Logan 36:22 I'll keep you posted if you cross over. Michael Unbroken 36:25 That's what you need friends for. Right? Lesley Logan 36:28 Brad and I go, hey, Kanye, you'll go ohMichael Unbroken 36:30 If you ever hear me go, I am a God. But like you need that, like I always teach my clients, you need to believe in yourself. Because if you don't who will? And yes, I'm like getting ready to go on stage and do this pitch. And we're in the greenroom with all these other people who are about to pitch this business. And one of the women goes, well, good luck, everybody. But I already won. And I remember I didn't say this verbally, but in my head. I was like, you're fucking insane. You have no idea how much you just fueled me to crush you even more, because I'm super competitive, right? And so we get on stage. Grant goes, who wants to go first, I raised my hand so fast. It's like coming out of my fucking socket. Because I know one rule in business and in life always go first. If it's scary, you're about to do the zipline go first. If it's you got to get on the plane, go first, like, always go first. Always, always always. Because automatically, you will present yourself as a leader and the alpha in the situation, which I think is important, because we don't have enough leaders in this world right now. Yeah. And so I go first, I crush literally like the next four people are like literally blah, blah, blah. It's like incredible to watch. And not for them. But for me and stuff. And so, at the end Grant goes, okay, yeah, this is no-brainer. We know who won. And it was me. I knew I won because I envisioned it a thousand of times leading up to that moment. I have done this speech a zillion times. And he said something to me. And it sits with me going to Fuck Yeah Friday, he said to me, dude, hold on, take your flowers. And that means like, in that moment, or whenever it is, celebrate the things that you have done. We move too fast, constantly. Where it's like on to the next on the next on the next. And I think that's entrepreneurs, especially we're guilty of this where I'm like, I did something incredible. And I'm like, automatically over the next thing. And it's like, hold on, pause. Maybe it's not. I just spoke in front of 10,000 people because, for most people, that's not what it's gonna be. But maybe it's I brush my teeth today. That's where my journey started. Like, for real? I was like, get out of fucking bed dude, go brush your teeth. That in some days, that's all I did. Yeah. And I think that that's what people have to recognize. Because that gives you a win. And if you have one win you start stacking them and it becomes exponential and compounding, and then next thing you know, a year later your life is different. How do you so how do you celebrate your wins? How do you take your flowers? Lesley Logan 38:57 Oh, I'm a verbal processor. So you will hear me around this house going fuck yeah, I'm amazing. Just killed that, like, Michael Unbroken 39:06 Fucking ego maniac. Lesley Logan 39:08 Like I do and like so there's this hilarious story. I was in this program with Jay Grimes and he is one of the last living people to study with Joseph Pilates and you had to like basically assess, to stay in the program. And I was really certainly with this last last portion of it. I could never get all the exercises done in the time that I knew how to get them done. I was really struggling and and I was a little nervous because I was like, oh my god, like if I can't get this done in this time, I'm going to miss out and I'm not going to graduate with my friends. I'm not going to finish my friends like then there's an ego of like, do it all over again and wait till next year. And I was like, Hold on. Okay, we're just gonna visualize it. So I went there that day and I like got there an hour early and I just visualized myself doing every single exercise every single station doing it and like I'm like having a good time. So when I did the actual assessment There was an exercise that I really struggled with and I did it and I as I was finishing, like, fuck yeah, I'm amazing. And I wanted the next thing and he just was like, what? Because no one talks and I'm like, nailed that did that. Whether I did or not this person who was judging me, they're going okay, I guess she nailed it. But like so that's my first started noticing that that was one of my best pep talks. For me it was just like saying it out loud. That might not work for other people. You might want to dance or maybe have a high five your kids or something like that. But that worked really well for me. And I still do this to this day. And when you were talking about that, it made me think of the have you read the book? The Big Leap? Michael Unbroken 40:36 No, I have not.Lesley Logan 40:37 Gay Hendricks people listen to the pod. I talk about this book all the fucking time. It's an annual read for me. If you listen to books on it right now. It listen to it at one point for speed. It's like your grandfather, you never had read you a lovely story, because maybe your grandfather was lovely. My grandfather's were like realist, bringing negative people. So like, wasn't my grandpa, but the grandpa I wanted. So he has, there are different things we do to upper limit ourselves. And specifically, when we are winning specifically, when we like have a win, it pulls us out of our comfort zone, because in our comfort zone, like we're probably not winning all the time. So when we do something that pulls us out of our comfort zone, there are things that we do to upper limit ourselves and then pull ourselves back in and want there's a there's like seven of them. One of them is self-deprecation. Another one is worrying. Another one is picking fights. Some people get sick, I had a client who every time she met a guy that she liked, and had a date with him one date with them, she would lose her fucking voice gone for six months. So the relationship effectively died because there's no second date because she lost her voice for six months. And I was like, I'm just gonna say this. I think you're, I think you're doing this to yourself, I think this is like a nonsense in your head. But like, There's something so you've been on three dates and 18 months and you've lost your voice three times like this is really a thing. So I am someone who and you got to know this about yourself so you can catch it. So I'm the person when I complete something. And I have a win I will look for all the things that aren't completed yet. And I will go focus on like all the things that aren't going well. So like I had this big win and like well this didn't go well and this and go on this thing over here is not done and we're not doing that the right way. Instead of actually just taking a moment to Grant Cardone's thing picking the flowers and so now it's so important and Brad is very much on board with us when we have a win we just celebrate the win. Tomorrow, two hours from now, whenever we can actually look at the other things that have to happen but right now it's just celebrating the win and really like sitting in that and maybe we light a candle I don't know like what do we do sometimes like the money handle like it happens but like it's so so important because otherwise you're just building the muscle that pulls you back into your comfort zone. Michael Unbroken 42:52 Yeah, what is the money candle? Lesley Logan 42:54 Oh welcome to my house. Michael Unbroken 42:56 Is it made out of money?Lesley Logan 42:58 No it has it has crystals inside and you do an encantation inviting money in and then you light the money candle and then ideally leave it burning until it burns itself out and then there's crystals inside that are that are like you know incensed with your vision or your dream I'm currently am this week while I'm working burning the obstacle remover candleMichael Unbroken 43:22 We are so different. Lesley Logan 43:27 But like I I'm a visual person verbal processor, so having that burning like as soon as like I'm like, oh, like we're like we're doing it we're gonna like it just helps me like remind myself my things, but I get them they don't pay for this show, House of intuition, they they sell these candles. I fucking love it.Michael Unbroken 43:44 I laugh because you know me I'm not very (inaudible)Lesley Logan 43:48 I would say that Brad is a (inaudible) guy and he burns the money candle.Michael Unbroken 43:54 Mine is sage like because I have seen like where you might I don't necessarily want to go down this path but like I have seen shit and yeah, I need to sage immediately.Lesley Logan 44:03 Do you sage with like burning the sage or do you have sage spray? Or do you both? The burning? Oh, I'm gonna show you when you leave the house. I'm gonna show you my sage spray. You need to take it on your trip. It'll fit in your travel pack because you're seeing 10,000 people you got to save yourself. Michael Unbroken 44:16 Yeah, yeah, there's something interesting about like, as I go deeper into my own personal journey, whether it's with psychedelics, or whether it's just through meditation, or just feeling energy, I've come to realize I'm actually an empath, which is really strange because I always have been able to pick up on tones of emotions feelings, that is a fucking buzzword everybody's an empath now it's like shut up. No, you're not. And then it's like, I feel that and it's like, I realize especially through podcasting, and bringing all these different people into my home into my studio into my life. I'm talking about really heavy shit. Like there's something and look, it might just be psychosomatic where I'm like, if I just sage this house, like I feel better. Yeah. Sage my backpack, like, whatever. That's probably my (inaudible) thing.Lesley Logan 45:05 I actually, I think that that's, you know, I think some people might like see a white light that cleanses them, I think it's important to have some rituals that help you kind of shed things that are now are not needed in the moment you're in because shit happens like, your mom's going to text you at the worst fucking time and you're like, oh, I don't have time to deal with that right now. And it's like, so it's like, you've kind of have to figure out what works for you. To get back into the headspace you need to be in for the thing that you're wanting to do. Michael Unbroken 45:34 Yeah, and not be dogmatic too. Like, I think one of the things that I've grown tremendously over the years is to not be dogmatic, right, because that I have found that that is the ultimate fixed mindset. Yeah, you know, when it's like, if you're dogmatic about anything, and there's no room for opportunity touches a favor and grace. And then suddenly, you're like, it's kind of like these people that we coach, right? Because on this one hand, you, you have to be exposed to this new idea. And we lay it out in front of you. And it's like, if you are unwilling, I remember I've only ever, I've never shared this before. So be cautious in the way that I do. I've only ever let go have one client ever in almost a decade of doing this. And this person was so incredibly dogmatic in their belief that this wouldn't work that I had to fire them. Yeah, I believe I hire my clients in the same way they hire me. But it's my time. It's my energy. It's my resources. That's my team, it's. And so this person, I would sit in front of them. And we would have these conversations, and I'm exploring opportunity. And the thing I'm always trying to lay within people's framework is like, be solution oriented. Because if you can just do that there's so much potential in front of you, instead of looking for roadblock, look for possibility. Yeah. And like this, this person, they just refused. And I fire them. And I remember thinking in that moment, you talk about like, evaluating yourself as a person who does this. I'm like, am I a bad coach? Because I couldn't win that person. And I was recently with my mentor, and we have an interview show every Wednesday, where we interview just for three to four people ever, like 600 episodes almost. And I came in later. So I haven't been there for all 600. But the one of the guys were coaches name's Bill, last name fucking escapes me right now. So I apologize. But he said something fascinating to me. He goes, players win games, coaches win players. And, and I was like, but you can't win them. All. Right. And that applies to every, like, that's a great parable for life. Because it's like, you can't win all the time. Right? You're going to suck as a coach, you're gonna suck as a partner, you're gonna suck as a podcaster. You know, as a mom and a dad, as a employee or a business owner, you're gonna have days where you just don't win. But it's like, can you just keep going?Lesley Logan 48:02 I actually, that's awesome. I really love thinking like that. Because, um, it goes kind of goes back to like, nothing is ever as bad or as good as we're going to expect. Like, like, the worst-case scenario rarely happens. And the best case scenario rarely happens like Brad love you. And he, I love his sheets, like I love like his sheets, like all his calculators, like, we can do this. And I'm like, okay, so it's probably not going to hit that money, it's probably going to hit around like 75% of that, that. So do I want to do it for 75% of that? Is that enough? Is that like, you know, you can have to like understand that, but you're not going to win them all. And what I really find as a as a strength that I have, is that when shit hits the fan, I'm like, Okay, what else is possible? Like I do really well when like, when when something comes up, of course, I'm not perfect. You guys. I do feel my feelings. There are like, a bunch of Fuck yeah, what the fuck is going on? How to who did what? And then it's like, okay, so Well, we're not going to quit now. Like, we can't stop. So what can we do? And I love that question. Like what is possible? I wonder there's a reason why it's tattooed on my left thumb, because I'm left handed. So when I see it, I go, I wonder. I wonder, I wonder like, you open up a loop and your brain can't stop thinking until you close it. And to go back to that client you fired. When you're like, No, that's not going to work period. It, correct. Because you've put a you, you haven't even your brain is not going to search for evidence for it to be true.Michael Unbroken 49:29 So going back to the big leap, there's something I think about a lot and that's like the next level. There's a guy named Bishop TD Jakes. You know this guy? Lesley Logan 49:39 Was he not on Oprah?Michael Unbroken 49:41 He may have been.Lesley Logan 49:42 Is he a pastor? Michael Unbroken 49:43 Yes. So he's a pastor. Lesley Logan 49:45 Black guy?Michael Unbroken 49:45 Heavyset black dude.Lesley Logan 49:46 Love him. Love him. Michael Unbroken 49:48 Super (inaudible) very boomingLesley Logan 49:51 He has a voice for pastorship. Michael Unbroken 49:54 One of the probably most prolific speakers of our age. I don't necessarily align in a lot of ways with him. But you don't have to. You don't have to. This is one things I think all the time. Like, you don't have to always like people to learn from them. And he said something so fascinating that I think applies to everything in life. And I think about this almost every day, literally almost every day. He goes new levels, new devils. And that's what I think about in this journey. Because it's like, as we continue to progress and grow, like the next thing is coming. I think about that all the time. It's like Fuck, man. Like this idea that it's gonna get easy if slash when, doesn't exist.Lesley Logan 50:39 No, I interviewed Ripley Rader. And she had that idea. She's a, you probably don't get these ads, Michael. But I do. She's got these amazing pants look on everybody, right. And so I interviewed her and she had said to her first PR team, she's like, Oh, my God, it's going to be so much easier when x and they looked at her and said, No, you'll just work more. It'll, you'll get there. And then you'll just keep working. Like, it's not easier when and I think if you the sooner you can learn that, the less disappointed you'll be in life. And the more opportunities you'll actually look for TD, TD, he was on Oprah years ago, you guys, I don't know how long ago, but I was I was listening to like, you know, Oprah Supersoul podcast, which is like clips of her show. And this woman was like telling a story. And then it got her life got worse, and her life got worse. And they cut her off. And they said, Stop with the story, because it's just a story. And they're like, if you actually want to move forward with your life, you have to let that go. You have to start, you have to stop holding yourself to the story and your life being what it is because of this instead going what is possible right now. And he told his whole story about some dog, boy, the mom was hit by a car. And so she owned like, she only worked with three legs. And so you drag one of her back legs and so that all the puppies drag their legs. And the reality is it's like they didn't have to they had functioning legs, but they were following along with their mom. And it really we go oh my gosh, like, if I like I don't have kids. But if I don't work on myself, I don't actually figure out how to make things happen then everyone who does get impacted by me will do things the same way just based on observing me. So I want to like better myself the best I can. So I'm not leading people to drag a leg when they don't need to. Michael Unbroken 52:17 Yeah, that's so good. You know, it's funny, as I just came back from Indianapolis, I grew up there. My little brother just graduated the police academy. And I was having a conversation with my other brother as he was like getting ready to go on stage and do all this shit. Or it might have been after it's one of the I don't remember kind of like that windows all mushed into one time. And he goes, this wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for you talking about me. Because if you go look at my life, 25 years old, I'm morbidly obese, smoking two packs a day drinking myself to sleep. I'm massively in debt. I got my car got repoed my fucking girlfriend found out I was cheating on her with like 18 people it was I'm not exaggerating, exaggerating that at all. One of my brothers literally goes never talked to me again, you're not my brother, like my life was complete shambles 13 years ago. And last week, this brother looks at me and goes, this wouldn't be possible without you. And it all comes down to this what you just said. It's like people are watching. They're paying attention. They are looking at you. They're following you. They're tracking you. They're measuring you. And it's like, I decided to take my brother's to a Tony Robbins event. Because even though I'm the trauma guy, and I'm the coach, and you know, all the books in the podcast, and billboards in Times Square of like, don't give a fuck, they're my brothers. They could not care less. Right. They care, but like, less. Lesley Logan 53:45 Yeah, it's true.Michael Unbroken 53:47 And so I take them to Tony, and like, their wives are different. But that started with me, or 13 years ago, when my lowest moment I was enough. I had enough of my own bullshit. And it's like, you keep dragging that leg and you wonder why your community sucks. Why Your family is failing. Why your money sucks. Why your relationship is garbage. Why? It's always someone else's problem. Like look in the mirror. You were homeless. It was your fault. Lake, you know what I mean? I'm literally talking to you. Yeah, it's like, it's like, you look at that, and people go, No, it's not your fault. Um, so life is so hard. It's like for everyone. Yeah. So why do you think you're special? Lesley Logan 54:30 Yeah, I I, one thing I'm really grateful for is my, my, my parents. My dad did a really good job

In this episode, Brad and Lesley recap their insightful interview with Tamika Robinson, the founder of Jar Fit. They discuss the significance of positive reinforcement, journaling, acknowledging progress in achieving one's goals, and the importance of embracing your feelings. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why positive reinforcements create habits to get you closer to your goals.How acknowledging your own progress can make you feel good about your achievements.The importance of writing yourself checks to make financial goals more real and achievable.Why feeling your "feelings" and crying is perfectly acceptable.The importance of narrowing down your to-do lists in prioritizing your tasks. Episode References/Links:Level Up Your Livestream at profitablepilates.com/livestreamBlack Friday, Cyber Monday (BFCM) SaleChat with us!Overcoming Underearning by Barbara StannyBurnout by Emily Nagoski Ph.D. and Amelia Nagoski DMA  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. Get your free Athletic Greens 1 year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 and 5 free travel packsGet your discount for some Toe Sox using the code: LESLEY Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesFollow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  Positive reinforcement is actually how habits are created. No one gets anywhere being shamed. You cannot shame yourself to hit your goals. Lesley Logan 0:08  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 0:50  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life Brad and I are going to dig into the motivational convo I had with Tamika Robinson in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened that episode, feel free to pause this now. Go back, listen to that one, you're gonna hear Tamika and I giggle a lot, especially if you're listening 2x like Brad does, then it sounds like chipmunks. But it's a lot of fun. It's quite motivational. I loved it, it was really great. And then you can come back and listen to this or you can listen to us now and then decide when to listen to that. Whatever you want to do is totally fine. I just want to like highlight for a moment that this is the first time ever I have not tripped up on the intro of the recap. And we should just take a moment because it's what 200 Episode 290. After 145 times of trying here we are celebrating. Brad Crowell 1:34  I also did not interrupt you. So yeah. Lesley Logan 1:36  You didn't interrupt me and I didn't fuck up. And you gotta celebrate when you do things so your dopamine kick happens. And this is now a habit. Lesley Logan 1:45  Okay, so today is November 16. It's Useless Stuff Day. That's so crazy. I think that my FYF for tomorrow is about how I cleared out my closet. I didn't even know that, so great. So the day was created to spread awareness around the clutter of unnecessary things in our homes, especially during the busiest shopping months of the year. It encourages people to adopt a minimalist lifestyle where only the essentials are bought or kept. Keep that in mind as we talk about Black Friday, Cyber Monday, most everything that we're about to talk about is digital. So not gonna take up any space. But I agree, I do think that like, we probably have a lot of things. So maybe pick a room one of the things that Brad and I do on the New Year, which we're going to do this time around Thanksgiving, because we're never home on the New Year's anymore. So I picked a new holiday. So on Thanksgiving weekend we are we go through room by room, like clean out a closet, clean out a drawer and just like get rid of stuff. You're like i What is this? It's taking up space.Brad Crowell 2:41  And it was a hell of a lot easier when we lived in an apartment. Lesley Logan 2:44  Yes, now we don't. But now we have a whole weekend to do it, Brad, because we have Black Friday through Cyber Monday. Brad Crowell 2:50  That's true. That's true. Lesley Logan 2:52  Also, it's it's even if you just start with one room and just do the one room and you go, Okay, I have not used this in so many years like do you really need it, give it away to someone give it to someone. You can sell things on Facebook marketplace, you can make some money so you can actually get paid. Then what's going on. So next month is December. So we'll be on tour for our winter tour. And we've got tons of cities and lots of opportunity. Bring your friends bring your family, there's classes that anyone can attend. And then there's workshops that I designed them so that whether you're a teacher or a client, you can enjoy them. But there are CECs if you are a teacher. So go to opc.me/tour to see what cities we're going to be in. Look we're driving 7000 miles, you can drive two hours. I'm just saying. Brad Crowell 3:36  100% Lesley Logan 3:36  You can be part of if you are like oh my god Lesley, it's a holiday I have a family. I bet you they (inaudible), but you need a break. Or you can bring them and let me entertain them. So opc.me/tour. You're gonna want to be there. Next week is a holiday. Brad Crowell 3:50  It's a crazy tour. We're going to be hitting something like 20-plus locations on this tour.Lesley Logan 3:59  Yeah. I want to light I want to lighten the van that's like you are in Denver and like, hello Denver what's up? Like, then I was like okay, Lesley, you are now in Austin, okay. I'm in Austin, okay, like I need to, I need a flashing light anyways, but let's get back to today. Next week is the official Black Friday Cyber Monday situation. So I know your inbox is full of people who celebrate all month long. But here at our household, we really like nostalgia. And so the earliest we kick things off is next Wednesday, the day before Thanksgiving, there are lots of opportunities for you to save on mat flashcards, on Pilates workshops, on business workshops.Brad Crowell 4:45  And my special upcoming live webinar.Lesley Logan 4:48  Yes.Brad Crowell 4:49  We're gonna be doing. We're gonna be selling tickets for that over BFCM as well.Lesley Logan 4:54  We might as well go into what that webinar is. Brad Crowell 4:57  What your website needs. Lesley Logan 4:59  You all, websites are not going anywhere. I don't care how important social media seems to be in your life. And no matter what your be it till you see it is I bet you need a website. Brad Crowell 5:09  I'll be catering it specifically towards Pilates instructors. Lesley Logan 5:12  Yeah. But if you're in a service based businessBrad Crowell 5:14  If you're yoga or anything like that, that's super good, you know, it'll be super applicable for you too. And I'm going to be really digging into things like, let's say you actually have no interest in doing the website yourself. By the end of the webinar, you should be able to have a comprehensive, you know, conversation with your web designer, web developer person, so that, you know, you don't feel like they're talking over your head. Lesley Logan 5:40  Well, and also you want to be able to know like, you don't need them to sell you things you don't need. So when you know what your website needs, you can be really clear, like, this is what I want, how much is this and that way you can really price compare, and you can find if someone's not listening to you be like, oh, like you're gonna have a lot more competence in those conversations. So super huge, you're gonna want to make sure if you're in the service-based industry, you're gonna want to make sure you're watching for our Pprofitable Pilates emails, because the best deal is going to be around the Black Friday, Cyber Monday. So we have discounts on OPC and on Profitable Pilates. So you'll have to go to the website specifically to grab all of those. There's options if you're not an OPC member, but you've always wanted to try it out. There's a deal for that. I mean, we are doing all the things most of them are digital so you can still clean out your house and be clutter free and get these things but you're (inaudible) flashcards just saying. Anyways, okay, so that is all the updates for us. Before we get into the episode with Tamika, do we have an audience question?Brad Crowell 6:36  Hey, we sure do. What a coincidence. This week.Lesley Logan 6:42  I just got this question today on Instagram.Brad Crowell 6:44  What microphones do you use to record your Pilates workouts? Lesley Logan 6:47  Yes, so okay, um, in all honesty, I don't know. But Brad probably does. What we do Brad Crowell 6:54  We use whatever Nate tells us to use.Lesley Logan 6:57  Yes, so Nate is the most incredible, most amazing salesperson at Sweetwater sound, and you guys. Sweetwater is like one of the coolest companies because they're like, they're kicking ass when it comes to selling microphones in all the spaces they're just like they sell more than microphones. Brad Crowell 7:14  It's basically that like in the 90s and early 2000s They were competing with Guitar Center which was brick and mortar and they were a mail order catalog only. And then they went online and then now they actually give Amazon a run for their money for music distribution or for music gear distribution.Lesley Logan 7:33  And they have warehouses now in different places, which is a huge new thing for them (inaudible) yeah, and so they can get you stuff so quickly. So Nate is our guy and so here's how you can find out all the information on anything that we use to record for our YouTube videos and our on demand workouts you go to profitablepilates.com/livestream Brad made a fancy guide and has literally all the things you need to level up your live stream you it's free it's free guide just go to profitablepilates.com/livestream.Brad Crowell 8:06  Yeah and if the if the gear, gear changes over time so you know there's there's direct connection to Nate right in the on that guide.Lesley Logan 8:15  Tell him what you're doing and he'll tell you what you should get. Brad Crowell 8:17  Just reach out to him just email him and tell him that you came from us. Tell him what you're looking for. And we'll help you out.Lesley Logan 8:24  He did our podcast mics, he does he helps us with our Pilates mics.Brad Crowell 8:26  Even this lighting.Lesley Logan 8:27  Oh yeah. And speaking of Pilates mics we have to get a new cord because we're at a year and yeah, these cords just so you know, everyone they're not made for filming Pilates. They're made for maybe filming a spin class.Brad Crowell 8:40  They're not made for rolling around on the microphone cord. No.Lesley Logan 8:43  Correct. And so basically like my cord lasts a year. That's all, that's pretty much all it is. And it's annoying and it's frustrating and yes, it's but it costs money. Guess what? It costs money to make money. I don't, I'm not going to sugarcoat it for you, it costs money.Brad Crowell 9:02  The cord's not that bad.Lesley Logan 9:04  It's like 100 bucks. Brad Crowell 9:04  No, the cord, it's like seven.Lesley Logan 9:06  Oh, okay, well spent. But yeah, but like when you invest the first time for the microphone, it's like 100 bucks.Brad Crowell 9:10   Yeah. The microphone is more expensive. Yes. Yeah, the cord is fine. Lesley Logan 9:14  Anyway, so profitablepilates.com/livestream, you guys send your questions in, we answer questions ranging all host of things. So send them on to the Be It pod we can answer your questions on the next episode.Brad Crowell 9:26  Okay, now let's talk about Tamika Robinson, founder of Jar Fit. Tamika shares her journey as a personal trainer, focusing on 80 women to achieve their body goals. She's committed to empowering her clients celebrating their small wins and fostering self-belief through each step of their fitness journey. And I don't know if you've gone to her website to see pictures of her competition body. But she's amazingly impressive. When it comes to, she competes. And I think she's won titles and stuff. So it's amazing to see. You know, so you can do that. Her husband, I believe also competes because he's massive. Lesley Logan 10:13  I know. But you know, like that, that means that parts of the year they only have rice and salmon. And like, that's a whole world of life. We didn't really dive into competitions, just because I wanted to be, yeah, no, yeah. Because I want it to be like what you can be till you see it. And I really like. So we had on James Patrick a while back and he hosts an amazing event every year about getting like booked for gigs. Hello, August. And getting booked for gigs. And we are one of the media outlets that they can get booked on. And he has been on the show. So he knows what we're looking for. And out of the like 500 people he's like, here are the best people I think you'd like. So take a look at all 500. But I think you would love these. And I did look through about 100. But I looked at the five that he sent me. And Tamika, I just like I really so which what came through on her stuff is very much this. Like she said, if you get better 1% every day, that the end of the year, that's 365%. Now I'm sure there's a mathematician who is actually going to say, well, actually, if you start off at 100%, it does compound, so it's even more amazing. It's even more amazing. And I loved it because it made me think of Allen Stein Jr. But how he's always like, did I get 1% closer to my goal today? And so I think like, especially because the women who listen to this podcast, hi, I see, you might type a perfectionist, we tend to think it's all or nothing if I didn't improve 100% I did nothing today. And it's like, actually, what if you do just one thing, one thing today that got you closer to your goal, at the end of the year, it's 365 things, you probably are going to surpass that goal. You know. And so when we make it up so hard, so she, she does this a little bit more specifically, we got into like, how she does with her weight training and like helping people. But I want to like more importantly, I want to talk about how she like, uses positive reinforcement to motivate her clients, you guys positive reinforcement is actually how habits are created. No one gets anywhere being shamed. You cannot shame yourself to hit your goals, period. And I'm sorry, you might be able to shame yourself to get out of the fucking bed a couple times a week or maybe get to the wherever the place but like you cannot shame yourself to achieving anything because it doesn't work is the same thing as like motivation. Like if you're waiting to be motivated, like that's going to come on you I was motivated at 4am this morning. That is not a consistent thing. It's just because we got home and we're still working on getting up at 5am. But I was like motivated and ready to go. That's you know, you can't just wait on motivation. It's going to come up with the worst times, right. And she also talked about like, how she really encourages her clients to journal and on their experiences and reflections. And I think this is really great. We listen to a guy on his podcast and he writes everything down. He must write his everyday down. Because he remember his his stories he's like on this day, 23 years ago, yeah, this thing happened to me. And I'm like, What the fuck? Is he reading his journal? Like, how does he know what happened on this day to himself in 47 years? Like, what is happening?Brad Crowell 13:27  Well, yeah, obviously he has it all catalogued too, so he could flip through? Yeah. And like immediately reference like, this day, on all these years previous. I mean, Lesley Logan 13:38  What if we just did that for that recaps instead of like, it's this day in the world right now. Like, okay, on this day, 27 years ago, in my life, I went on my first date. No, but like, if you can take whether you want to journal in the morning, or in the evening, find a time to like, talk, like write down your experiences from the day write down three things that happened to you, and then reflect on like, how did you like that? What was your favorite part about that? Because those kinds of things help you really understand yourself. I with Brad and I were in a coaching session today with our coach. And I was like, Oh, I journaled today. And I became extremely aware of like, how I've been holding myself back this year. And it's not like in a negative way. It's like, oh, aha moment. Whoa, like, these things are really important. So I love that she does that and then she really encourages them to acknowledge their own progress. So they can feel good about their achievements. So just I think more coaches like her affecting more women out in the world she does it through weight training, but like my goodness, you guys don't You don't have to wait train with her to get this you can actually like take these things and like apply them to your life the way you do them.Brad Crowell 14:42  Yeah, totally. And, you know, when when? Well, she said a bunch of things that I also dug. One I thought it was really fun that she mentioned. She and her partner both share similar personal goals and so that's why they started working together. And that was fun. Because that's how life is for us. And it made me think about that. But I really loved when she was talking about, like her transition into becoming a coach. Becoming a trainer actually. And so she said, if you're planning on starting your side, hustle or leaving your full-time job, you must know what it is that you need to make, so that you can enjoy Lesley Logan 15:31  I knew you'd love this. Brad Crowell 15:32  Yeah. So you can like enjoy being, you know, in your new role. And because she, it was really interesting to listen to her talk about like, the idea of being a trainer. And that being her profession, right, because she comes from like, she went and got a Criminal Justice background degree, like master's degree. She was like, trying to work for the FBI, like three times she applied and wasn't getting the FBI. Lesley Logan 16:02  I mean, their fucking loss, because she's amazing. And also, like, she's so sweet. I feel like the FBI would like just like...Brad Crowell 16:08  Yeah. Let's she, you know, so she had this preconceived notion of like, who am I? What am I supposed to do with my life, and then she just enjoyed the training and then started, you know, she got certified and then started training people. And but I still think even she mentioned that even after she started taking clients, she still wasn't like, convinced herself that this is her job, her profession, right. And it took a long time for her to settle in and actually did really lean into it. And, you know, so I think, when she was first starting out, she was a little unsettled, like, I'm not, you know, making my insurance or I'm not making my, my, you know, the money that I think I should be making or whatever. And so she then reflects on that and teaches her clients like, hey, you know, know what you need to make before you quit. And she said, also, what I thought was really nice is that it was messy. It was a messy process, I thought that was really cool that she was so transparent. You know, it didn't happen overnight, she didn't like immediately start making her goal income right away all the things. In fact, she, she started writing herself a check for 10 grand, every single month, even if she wasn't able to cash that check, she began to visualize this concept of like, this is the amount of money that I know that I want to make. I'm gonna write myself this check until I can cash (inaudible).Lesley Logan 17:38  I'm obsessed with this and so many reasons. reasons. One of the reasons is a too often people who work for themselves don't pay themselves an actual paycheck, they just like take from the bank account. Like, they don't actually get the same paycheck every month. Right? And the other reason I love it is like she's practicing writing down $10,000 paid to, to make it like the reality. Brad Crowell 18:00  I think she started talking about like, Monopoly money, though, because she was like, I don't have a checkbook.Lesley Logan 18:04  Yeah. But also okay. But also like seeing that, or this is something I talked to, like people who like, that's too much money to charge. It's like, say it out loud all the time. So it doesn't sound foreign. It's like, you the those these things can be come a little esoteric, or, or I guess it's the best word for this. Yeah. If you if you only think about them in your head, but if you actually, like, write the check, like we've had, or like, when we got this houseBrad Crowell 18:31  It doesn't feel real like it's you know, it's like, telling yourself, good job, but you don't, you know, doesn't really benefit you.Lesley Logan 18:40  I think like, the best you could do is like write yourself the check. Even if you don't cash it or, you know, grab Monopoly money,Brad Crowell 18:46  You got to associate it with an action, llike doing celebration is more than, you know, you inside your head saying I did it. You have to talk it out loud. You have to like, actually do something.Lesley Logan 18:58  And say, say these prices andthese goals out loud, because $10,000 might seem like a lot. If you're like me, you came from no money. Oh my god. Like, that's a lot of money. But if you start to say it out loud, and you talk about these numbers with your friends and things, I think it's so important for men to talk about how much money they make. And not in a boastful way. This is not like an arrogant way. This is a we have to start seeing these numbers as normal. It is normal to make $10,000 a month. It should be normal. And I know that like if you're like, oh my god Lesley, I barely make $2,000 a month. I'm like, so poor. Yeah, but talk like talk these numbers out so that 10,000 doesn't seem so far away. It seems one, you earned it, you deserve it. You deserve more than that. You're worthy of that and two, when you say your prices, it's not about your budget, right? It's about what you're worth of the effects that you make, that your talent has on these people's lives.Brad Crowell 19:52  The impact that you're having. Lesley Logan 19:54  You're not charging for the 55 minutes you're charging for the impact it's having. And so Danny J, whe should have Danny J and Joel on the pod. We should just do that. Okay. If you're listening, ladies, just text them out for this. But Danny J had us, like, take what we charge and double it and go around and say how much does it cost to work with you? And I'm like, okay, so I took the OPC most expensive membership. And I said, okay, it costs $1,400 a year to take. And I said, How many classes that that membership included was like six times 12 is 64, 66, 64?Brad Crowell 20:31  I wasn't actually paying attention. Lesley Logan 20:33  So how much is 12 times six?Brad Crowell 20:35  You get 104 classes? The most expensive? Okay, so 152.Lesley Logan 20:39  152. So 152 for $1,500 It's only 150 We don't try to generalize guys, but the point was to take what you charge and double it. And so if you think holy, that's fucking $10 cost well guess what, my rates are actually half that. So it's five dollars a class to work with me for a whole year. That's so cheap, right? But we think about oh my god $700. Like we think about the bigger number, right? Breaking it down. So Danny J had us like, take the money, double it. And then walk around saying that so that when you say your actual price, it sounds so inexpensive.Brad Crowell 21:16  Well, in that same vein, I she recommended a book. Lesley Logan 21:20  I can't wait to read this. Brad Crowell 21:21  Overcoming, called Overcoming Underearning by Barbara Stanny. And, you know, it was interesting to listen to her talk about that. I think that would have been really beneficial for me. When I was first getting started, you know, too because I was like, Oh man, if I can only make $100 today, you know, or if I can only make $30,000 a year if I can only make $50,000 a year. And you know, I think it's really important that we, like you said talk about the money side of it. But also it is expensive to live in a city. Period. So doesn't matter which city you're in. It's expensive to live in a city. And you know, to make 50 grand in a city. You're barely paying your bills. You know, 50 grand seems like so much fucking money for me.Lesley Logan 22:18  Yeah. Because I mean, I knew what my parents made, like my mom. I'm gonna say this because you want to know how schoolteachers make. My mom taught private school and in the 2000s. And I guess they call it the arts. I don't really understand what that comes from. In the 2000s. She made $22,000 a year as a full-time fifth grade school teacher. What the fuck? That is McDonald's employees back then made more money in a year full time. Okay, so she's the college-educated person who was making that. My father was making a little over 40 something at some point when I heard his salary. Me getting paid $50,000 I was like, I'm slaying right, I'm killing it. No, I could barely pay my bills, like where I live? Because I live in a city like you did. And so it's like, but because my mindset that seemed like, that's so much money, it was I did not have a mindset that was likeBrad Crowell 23:14  Oh, my gosh, I was like, if I can make 75 I'm going to be rich.Lesley Logan 23:17  Yeah. If you move to I don't know, I don't even know where you can live for 75,000 anymore. Maybe Alabama? I don't know. Brad Crowell 23:25  But, but I think but so this book, it was interesting to hear her talk about it. And so, you know, we're, we're, we're gonna check it out, too. We haven't actually checked it out, but Overcoming Underearning by Barbara Stanny. Yeah. So, you know, she, she also talked about when, you know, identifying her current situation and desired goals, she created a plan, saying I'm going to calculate all my clients figure out what I'm paying rent what I need, and then I'm going to figure out the plan. So for those of you who have worked with us in Agency, that probably sounds really familiar. We obviously talked about the magic number calculator, and it really helps create that clarity for what you need to set for your rates to help you work backwards, just like she was talking about here. So that you can make the money that you need to make to include time off, sick days off, you know, all those kinds of things. And I just thought it was really aligned with what we are all about. So yeah, great stuff.Lesley Logan 24:28  Yeah, I'm in love. Tamika, we love you.Brad Crowell 24:32  All right, so finally let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Tamika Robinson? She said if you are stressed cry, it's okay, you're allowed. You're allowed to do it. She said feel your feelings crying is perfectly acceptable. So you know this is interesting. I was never really taught this.Lesley Logan 25:00  I cry all the time. Yeah, but I had to remind myself it's okay.Brad Crowell 25:08  All right. Okay, I'm still talking over here. So my so what I was never really taught this and my, my feeling my feelings. I would wait, wait, wait until it became anger. And then I would feel my feelings in an explosive way. And that never benefited me. Anyone else around me none of that stuff. So I thought it was really helpful to just hear that. You know, you're you're supposed to feel your feelings that's being human. And if that, you know, turns into tears, that's okay. It's allowed.Lesley Logan 25:46  Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm really glad that you heard it now. And I thinkBrad Crowell 25:52  Would have been really helpful. 20 years ago.Lesley Logan 25:54  I well. Isn't that the, I think...Brad Crowell 25:56  Even 10. Lesley Logan 25:57  Well, can I just be honest, girls are told not to cry. And especially Brad Crowell 26:01  So are boys. Lesley Logan 26:02  Well, girls can, but not at work. Don't let anyone see you cry at work. And it's like, okay, but your passion is actually super. Like, if you if you're crying all the time, like maybe go take your hormones, but like, if you are so passionate, something you're so fresh, it makes you cry, because like the like, it's okay to like have those feelings, because if you shove them down, there is a really great book. I want to say it's called Burnout. It's like two sisters. I don't know that Burnout. I heard them on Brene Brown's podcast, but they said like that it's so important. To letLesley Logan 26:03  It is Burnout. Yeah, Emily and Amelia Nagosaki. Lesley Logan 26:08  Yes. So they said like, sometimes in the moment, it's not appropriate to feel you're feeling Brad Crowell 26:19  No. Nagoski.Lesley Logan 26:43  Yeah. It's not it's not. It's not always appropriate. So like, for example, you may be walking on the street and somebody like, calls out like, I'll just say, I'll, I'll do an actual example in my life. I was run in LA I used to run and this guy who was dressed like a gnome, I swear to God. Brad Crowell 27:08  A gnome? Lesley Logan 27:09  Yes. You heard me say it. He (inaudible) hobbit. He had a foil, little cap on Brad Crowell 27:14  I was thinking about the Seven Dwarfs. Lesley Logan 27:16  Oh, he, maybe but like really sort of The Hobbit like kind of like the like the bigger guy with a braid on his beard? I'll be running with my own, and he'd go you're a whore. Brad Crowell 27:27  What? Lesley Logan 27:28  Right? Because He's cray. He has he has mental problems. Okay, so he has more problems than I have. It doesn't feel good to feel be called that, right? So when I was out of arm's reach of him, I would laugh out loud because like, if I were just to like, shove that down, and every Sunday, this man would call me a whore. It is actually not Oh, you don't want to be called that doesn't feel good to be called that there was another guy that Eric used to hear. He would like, he was this other crazy dude on Wilshire, and he would call it something. And I just started going, you know, may the Lord open, blessed be like, oh, but I would like to make a joke about it. Because I had to let out I had to have a reaction to let that out. And their whole point is like, maybe in the moment, you can't let it out. Like, in my case, I was in an area where I could like, let like joke about it or laugh it out. But if you do have to, like hold it together, because maybe someone says something in a meeting and you can't say anything in the meeting, you can't cry in the meeting, then you need to actually get home, get to a pillow, scream in the pillow, like let it out. Because if you don't, if you don't feel your feelings, they bottle up and they actually do cost stress on the body. And they can keep you from becoming the person you're meant to be in this world. So I love that Be It Action. Mine is she said to write down 100 things on your to-do list. And I swear to God when she said that I was like maybe we are editing this Be It Action Item. Because this is not aligned with my values. But then she said, then after the fifth thing, cross everything out.Brad Crowell 28:59  She said, Yeah, she said take the top five and cross out 95 of them. Lesley Logan 29:06  Yes, yeah, yes. And I love this actually just kind of a book club meeting with Agency members called do the book was like, Do the One Thing or The One Thing or whatever. And I love this because it's so true. We put all these things on our list. But really the first five things are the most pressing things so they're top of mind the other 95 you're just like, look at me, I'm so busy. Look at me, like all these important things to do. So I thought that is so fun, because then you can get all that shit off your head, anyway. Brad Crowell 29:33  It's brain dump total, brain dump.Lesley Logan 29:34  Such a great brain dump and then you know what your top five priorities are boom, way to go. It helps to underscore the importance of having clear tangible steps and a pathway to achieving your personal goals. So way to go Tamika, you're so fun. I'm so glad that James introduced us. I'm glad you put yourself out there so that you could be on this podcast and I'm excited for what you're doing.Brad Crowell 29:54  Yeah, it was great.Lesley Logan 29:55  It was great. We love it. All right, I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 29:57  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 29:58  Thank you so much for being here. You all, we could not have the show without you. You just heard the episode 290 which means (inaudible) that means in less than three weeks, we're hitting episode three fucking hundred, holy moly. We have an epic week of episodes for you that week because we got Michael Unbroken coming back. So we want to know what your favorite part of this episode was. You have to actually tell us that.Brad Crowell 30:20  Yeah, you actually have to like send us a DM.Lesley Logan 30:22  I'm gonna call you out, I need you to either email or DM or if you have our phone number, whatever means of ways (inaudible)Brad Crowell 30:33  Chat to us.Lesley Logan 30:34  Whatever, we want to know so we can actually continue to provide guests that you want to hear from but also we continue make this podcast better because holy fucking moly episode 300. Thank you so much for being here. Have an amazing day. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 30:48  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 30:50  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Lesley Logan 31:18  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. Brad Crowell 31:21  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 31:26  It is produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo. Brad Crowell 31:30  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music, and our branding by designer and artist Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 31:37  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals and Ximena Velazquez for our transcriptions. Brad Crowell 31:42  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all the content to our website. And finally to Meridith Crowell for keeping us all on point and on time. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

A special collaboration episode with Gill Tietz of Sober Powered Media and Michael Unbroken of Think Unbroken Podcast to delve deep into the topic of resilience. Michael, a survivor, entrepreneur, and coach, shares his incredible story of transformation, emphasizing the necessity of resilience in navigating through adversity and achieving personal growth. Jill brings her background as a former biochemist and part-time chemistry professor, adding depth to the discussion with her insights on addiction, emotional intelligence, and the journey to sobriety. Together, they create a powerful dialogue, shedding light on the essential skills and mindset needed to cultivate resilience, bounce back from setbacks, and create a life filled with light, love, and meaningful progress. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to strengthen their emotional resilience and navigate life's challenges with grace and strength. Thank you for supporting this show by supporting our sponsors: https://www.emotionalbadass.com/sponsors Please contact sales@advertisecast.com if you would like to advertise on our podcast. Resources we offer: Free Morning Routine PDF to help conquer your day! https://www.emotionalbadass.com/morning-routine Community & Exclusive Bonus Episodes & Video: https://www.patreon.com/emotionalbadass 30 Days to Peace Course: https://www.EmotionalBadass.com/peace CODE: BADASS for 30% Off The Boundaries Course: https://www.EmotionalBadass.com/boundaries Join our newsletter for weekly wellness emails where we share mental health tips, announcements, discount codes, and highlight past episodes: https://www.emotionalbadass.com/newsletter Check out our Guided Meditations narrated by Nikk: https://www.emotionalbadass.com/store/meditations Follow us on Social Media: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/emotionalbadass IG: https://www.instagram.com/emotional.badass FB: https://www.facebook.com/emotionalbadass TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@emotionalbadass Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/emotionalbadass Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

World Renowned Author and Speaker, Michael Unbroken joins me on the show to about how to "Unbreak" your life. A child of trauma, Michael discovered that the world was by me and not to me and has overcome the maladies of his early life to one of the most successful coaches in the world. He uses his superpowers to help people move their trauma into triumph. I mean why not, he was abused at 13, kicked out of High School, a millionaire at 26, and broke a few years later. He finally realized that a revolution- a fierce overthrow of a system, was the only way out. This show is a must-listen! Please check out his book and his website - thinkunbroken.com Please like, subscribe, and share with your friends!

From homeless to hero, with an ACE Score of TEN, Michael Unbroken found his way from stuck, hurt, and broken to being THE HERO of his own story. Today, Michael has coached thousands of Trauma Warriors around the world to learn to love themselves, get unstuck and to BE UNBROKEN. Michael is the author of the best-selling book Think Unbroken and is a coach, mentor, and educator for adult survivors of child abuse. Michael spends his time helping other survivors get out of "The Vortex" to become the HERO of their story! Michael hosts The Think Unbroken Podcast, teaches at Think Unbroken Academy, and is on a mission to end generational trauma in his lifetime through education and information. Connect with Michael: Website: THINK UNBROKEN | CPTSD and Trauma Coach Podcast Podcast: The Think Unbroken Trauma and CPTSD Healing Coach Podcast (thinkunbrokenpodcast.com) Gift From James: Earn Your First $500/mo. of Passive Income in 5 Simple Steps (profityourknowledge.com)

This week's episode Tori is interviewed by her good friend - Michael Unbroken - host of the Think Unbroken Podcast. Tori reflects on her past, and imparts her wisdom on coping with loss, processing grief, and the profound transformation that comes from embracing the ever-changing nature of life. Michael and Tori jointly explore the notion of identity and how societal pressures often steer individuals toward seeking external validation. Listen in to hear how Tori learned to embrace her truth throughout her journey! Think Unbroken Podcast TORI TIKTOK  TORI INSTAGRAM COACHABLE YOUTUBE COACHABLE INSTAGRAM COACHABLE FB COMMUNITY Join My Exclusive Group Coaching Membership - THE HUDDLE OUR SPONSORS: This week's episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/COACHABLE and get on your way to being your best self! Are you stuck in a dinnertime recipe rut, overwhelmed by your crazy schedule? It's time to spice up your meals with HelloFresh! Visit HelloFresh.com/50coachable and use code 50coachable for an exclusive offer - 50% off plus free shipping! My FAVORITE daily accessory (a PERFECT GIFT) - the Komuso Shift Necklace! With Komuso you can breathe easier, think clearer, and live better. Check them out today at komusodesign.com/COACHABLE and receive 15% off! Take the first step toward a more serene and empowered you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Michael Unbroken is a coach, speaker, advocate for survivors of childhood trauma, and the best-selling author of ‘Think Unbroken: Understanding and Overcoming Childhood Trauma.'In this episode, Michael shares his experience with childhood abuse; how he overcame it through a combination of forgiveness and self-development; how he built a successful business and lost 100 pounds; and how he helps others work through the impacts of trauma today.Michael also speaks about:- Being raised by a drug-addicted mother and a racist grandmother, leading him to a life of addiction and chaos- How genetic and energetic factors play a role in passing down behaviors and experiences from one generation to another- How forgiveness is for oneself, not for others – and how it helped him find release and freedom- How he achieved his goal to make $100k per year legally by age 26- The teacher that changed and saved his life- Confronting his own victim mentality and adopting a tough approach to personal growth- The negative impact of the American food system and the government's misleading food pyramid- His journey of starting with a yoga program, losing weight, and eventually becoming a certified personal trainer and nutritionist- How he moved away from religion and found spirituality, tapping into the universe through meditation and visualization- The importance of taking risks that lead to unexpected opportunities- How childhood trauma, regardless of its severity, can have long-lasting effects on mental health, addiction, and physical well-being- The importance of intervening and speaking up against abuse when you see itBooks mentioned in this episode:The Alchemist by Paulo CoelhoCrush It by Gary VaynerchukThe 10X Rule by Grant CardoneMichael's charitable cause:Operation Underground Railroad, which “exists to rescue children from sex trafficking and sexual exploitation around the globe”.Connect with Michael on socials:https://www.thinkunbroken.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/traumasurvivormentorandcoachhttps://www.instagram.com/michaelunbroken/https://www.thinkunbrokenpodcast.com/https://www.tiktok.com/@michaelunbroken

I sat down with Michael Unbroken, a renowned advocate for survivors of childhood trauma and host of The Unbroken Podcast. We delve into the depths of vulnerability, the power of genuine connections, and the weight of our emotional addresses. Reflecting on personal journeys, we discuss seeking affirmation, the essence of true relationships, and the importance of self-validation. Join us as Michael shares insights from his traumatic experiences and the lessons he's drawn from them, emphasizing the significance of actions over words. Don't miss this heartfelt conversation about self-worth, trauma, and emotional anchoring. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Change can be daunting, but what happens when you pivot in the most unexpected ways? Dive deep into Nikole's journey, revealing the heart, courage, and self-discovery it takes to embrace your true calling. Discover how authenticity can lead to unimaginable paths and how to harness it in your own life. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How to transform your life by listening to your inner truths.Why fear often holds women back.How to move beyond people-pleasing.Why it is vital to surround yourself with genuine support.How to confidently embrace your authenticity amidst judgment.How to overcome body insecurities and embrace self-love.Episode References/Links:Nikole Mitchell's InstagramNikole Mitchell's TwitterNikole Mitchell's TikTokNikole Mitchell's WebsiteNikole Mitchell's YouTubeNikole Mitchell's FacebookGuest Bio:She is known as the pastor-turned-stripper. She left a religious community for the adult industry and has never been happier, healthier, or wealthier. She transitioned from food stamps to 7 figures by embracing the truest version of herself, even if it meant being misunderstood. She is an expert in pleasure, power, and profit, as well as self-expression and being an online sex worker.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.Get your 15% discount for Toe Sox – use coupon code LESLEY15Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship Join us at our West Coast Summer Pop Up Tour - Aug. 8-20, 2023Join us at Agency Mini - Sept. 10-16, 2023Join us at our Cambodia Retreat - Oct. 8-13, 2023FREE Ditching Busy WebinarAmy Ledin - Episode 5: "How to take fast action against limiting beliefs" ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Nikole M. Mitchell 0:00  And for me, it's like I just want to hear my own truth. I want to speak my truth. I want to know my truth apart from all the truth passed down to me. I want to take up space with my full self and as scary as that was I was so hungry for it after decades of not taking up space, of shrinking, of sacrificing myself. Nikole M. Mitchell 0:09  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:21  Alright, babes. So what I'm so excited about is today's interview is actually something I got to do in person with this guest and get your journal out, get your notebooks out, get your get ready to replay this episode two times because, honestly, I had a really hard time ending the interview. I know that Nikole did as well. I'm gonna have to have her back because there's just so much that that she and I could still talk about in an amazing way to support you. You are an amazing person. Do you know that? Have you told yourself that he was shot and what I what I love about being in the presence of Nikole, is that she is this embodiment of loving herself wholly and fully and honestly and she takes up the space that she deserves to take up, we all deserve to take up in this world is that she empowers everyone around her to do that to and to show up fully and honestly and loving. And you will hear in this episode, why having people in your lives that have that are doing what you want to be doing this world around you is such an important thing. It helps you show up the way you want to show up. It helps you to have those people who are who've done the thing and doing the thing that you want to be doing. So I I truly, truly am so grateful to have this woman in my life. I want to call her a friend and and I'm the most proud of this conversation that I could ever be on this app on this podcast. And so Nikole Mitchell is here. She is phenomenal. She is more than words can describe to be completely honest. And her journey on this earth is one where I do know you can find yourself in her story. And yeah, you will, you'll hear who she is. And you might think Leslie how on earth and I'm going to tell you listen to the whole thing. Because you are going to get so many gems out of this and you are going to see that life is not linear. And it is this journey along the way the curiosity that we all deserve to give ourselves in this life that we have. And the self-love the full self-love that we owe it to ourselves that is going to take you everywhere you want to go. She's an incredible woman. So here she is Nikole Mitchell.Lesley Logan 4:19  All right, Be It babes. I'm so excited. First of all, our guest today is in my house, which just makes us really fun. So, maybe this is a new way of doing an interview podcast. I would love that. And also, a friend of a friend introduced us if you remember Michael Unbroken's episode, many of you loved that episode. He said, You have to meet my friend Nikole. She's amazing. You too, are gonna love each other. He's not wrong. I'm obsessed with our guest, Nikole Mitchell. Thank you so much for being here. Can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?Nikole M. Mitchell 5:42  Yes, Lesley, thank you so much for having me. So I'm Nikole Mitchell. I'm known as the pastor turned stripper. I'm really good at helping people monetize what they love doing. Lesley Logan 5:52  Okay, so thank you. Do you not think no big deal? Like? I mean, everyone goes from pastor stripper like that's the common thing, right? You know, it's so funny. It's like when people like you have to have a three-sentence bio and like a one bio. Like, I feel like that's a hard bio to just summarize things up. And so can you take us back a little bit to like, you know, the life that led you to being like a pastor, and then kind of the journey there, because I think there's a lot of question marks that people are gonna have.Nikole M. Mitchell 6:24  I know, it's interesting, even that tagline sounds like an overnight thing. And it obviously encompasses an entire journey and back backstory. So I was raised in a very conservative religious environment, and very quickly picked up on the messaging that my role as a girl was to grow up and become a wife, and mom, and to be a good woman. And I drank the Kool Aid, I believe it's my core that was used to be the epitome of my life. Existence. And I did I grew up I married a man had three kids was a stay at home mom. And of course, I love my babies. But I was miserable, that I felt like, I felt duped like this, is it? This is this is it? And so when I reached that point, I started re evaluating my entire life and asking like, what is it that you actually want Nicole? Apart from the dogma, apart from the indoctrination? What is it that you want? And that question changed everything?Lesley Logan 7:19  Yeah, I feel like that question. Every single one of us can, like, probably ask ourselves on a daily basis. Yeah. Know, like, such a powerful question. And I also I love that you said like, it sounds like it's an overnight thing. And I think it's so important to highlight that every person who thinks something sounds like it was from I went from this to this, it's, it's never that it's not a light switch. It's very, it's I am a dimmer switch.Nikole M. Mitchell 7:43  Shown roller coaster, for sure. And every success story has a backstory, it's so easy when we see people who've made it to think they had it easier than we did, they had more resources, they have more connections, they had more just more than what we currently have. So then we assume they had an easier and better than what you have, and I've been in this long enough. And my story's very rocky to know that that's never true. Like, I mean, there's some of the more privilege and power but when people make massive life changes, it is a roller coaster,Lesley Logan 8:13  right? Because there's also like, you're trying to figure out what it is that you want. And then also there's the people around you are like, how does what you want affect my life? And so then you're balancing their emotions and their worries and their fears with your own. Yeah. So how, how did you? Did you go? Okay, what this is what I want now? And then how did that how did you have that conversation with the people around you?Nikole M. Mitchell 8:36  Yeah, that is really hard, because I'm a recovering people pleaser, and I don't want to offend anyone, I don't want to disappoint anyone. I'm a very, very caring person. And so to try to step into your own and live your truth with the immense pressure of trying to be who everyone else needs you to be. It's hard enough to where I think it's easy for people to never make that final leap. You try so hard for so long. And then that last jump is so terrifying to fully stand on your own two feet and knowing you're going to disappoint some people is terrifying thing for most people, and especially women who aren't we just love people and we love humans, and we don't want to hurt anyone. And when I did this journey, it was such a slow like, it was not an overnight sensation. And for me, it's like I just want to hear my own truth. I want to speak my truth. I want to know my truth apart from all the truth passed down to me. I want to take up space with my full self and as scary as that was I was so hungry for it after decades of not taking up space of shrinking of sacrificing myself. And so I gave myself to like move in baby steps very privately. I like kind of really couldn't like kind of hunker down because I couldn't withstand any pushback. I was like a little baby chick on wobbly legs, one tiny gust of wind and I'd be on my back flailing. So I like hunker down, remove myself from small circles because I couldn't explain to them what I was doing. This was very intimate transformation. And then once I got more sturdy on my legs, then I started having conversations with people about who I was becoming and what I was doing.Lesley Logan 10:07  So I think that that's actually like, really, I want everyone to like relisten to that, because we even had someone on who was like talking about the Enneagram. And like, when you when you, when you find out about yourself she like had like a client who's who's a perfectionist and didn't want to ever make a mistake. And so some people would say, well just speak your truth. And it's like, yes, wouldn't that be amazing if that worked for her is that for if it were to go wrong, if there'll be a little bit of wind, a little bit of push, that can actually not just knock you off your feet, but go, okay, that was actually so terrifyingly awful. I'm never gonna do that again. And then you're in that, like, you're further away from your truth. So I think it's really cool that like you hunker down I love. I love thinking about like, okay, who are like, if there's anyone in my circle who I can share this with? Like, who would that be? And if it's like, you gotta just really be kind, like, it's not always going to be your parents or your partner or something like that. Because Nikole M. Mitchell 11:02  She is the last one. I found for me and my clients, family often is the last.Lesley Logan 11:06  Yeah, so so they were your last? Nikole M. Mitchell 11:09  Yeah, you know, what I actually did is I hired a life coach, I'm like, I will literally pay someone to be my best friend. Like someone who really has my back unequivocally, they're not. They're not voting for me and my family, they're not going for me. And my partner is like, I'm solely in Nikole's corner. And I needed that because I don't think I ever really had that anyone who was in my corner was rooting for me, was rooting for me to become who they thought I should be. And so I hired someone specifically to be like, I've got your back all the way through Nikole. And that kind of support was powerful. Because when I was overwhelmed and terrified, I called him crying. When I felt on fire and unstoppable I called him celebrating I didn't, it wasn't my husband, then that I went to was definitely not my family. It wasn't even my best friends, like I knew is undergoing a massive transformation. And I had to have at least one person who had my back all the way through it.Lesley Logan 11:58  That is such a I would not thought about that I had like think that that's really cool. It's like instead of even being a best friend that you might have who even probably is like, Nikole, whatever you want, I'm here all the way like you're like no actually just need someone who really is like, like, I'll pay them to be that person. I think that's actually quite, quite amazing. My my husband, I we had this amazing win in our lives in May of 2020. And he called his parents to share with them and they are like we're buying a house because we had this amazing opportunity. And their response was like, we'll make sure it's not the most expensive house and make sure the school district is really great. And like, I was like, driving the car, like with the hand going wrap it up, wrap it up. That was not satisfying. Call our coach. I was like, call her house. And like, here's the thing about coaches like that. We called him up. And he was like, Guys, I have a call in two minutes, what's up? What can I do? And we're like, this is what happen to us. He's like, That's amazing. And he like scream in the car with us. And so it's true. Like when you're having these like new wins these new, even new tests for you, you need someone who's like, can, can keep their fears and worries for what that feels like for their relationship with you aside. So I think that that's really wise.Nikole M. Mitchell 13:10  And I think when people make the decision, like to buy a house or for me to undergo this massive life change, the people in the middle of that decision making a transformation have thought the most about it more than any other person in your life. So when people come at us, like, why we consider this and have you considered that it's like, we have thought it all the way through. And so it actually isn't helpful. I feel like it's, it's it's meant to be loving and caring. And that's how I interpret it. But it can be an insult. Like I have thought this through more than any of you combined will ever think this decision through. And that's where having support like I see you, I know you've put so much thought and intention in this and the fact that this showed up in your life, this house and it's aligned and you're so excited. I'm so happy for you guys. But we don't have that people think they they think of something that you've never thought of before, but they haven't because you're the one in this.Lesley Logan 13:56  It's so funny isn't truth, like you are like, I'm not gonna be passed tomorrow I'm going to be a stripper or whatever it is that you do all the time. And like, it's like, it's like they they do it's like it's funny, like, I'm gonna wear a dress today. It's not you know what I want to do today I want to go to I want to go to new park. So funny how people do think that these big life changes are are being you are being thought of in the same way that you're like, What do I want for dinner? Yeah, that's really I think that's really important for everybody like to keep in mind like it is. They are being helpful. They think they're being helpful, but you have thought it through and like if you can really remind yourself so I mean, obviously, being a pastor, like as someone who was raised in church, like, I know there's a lot of pressure on like, what that life is supposed to look like and how you're supposed to behave and how you're supposed to your family's supposed to act. And then also everyone in the church has the same rules around that was I mean that had to be really tough to consider like losing like, everybody.Nikole M. Mitchell 14:54  Yeah, I It was terrifying. Because around the same time it was a bunch of things were falling into place which was I knew was aligned but it was I knew was going to be a lot from people. So like I came out queer. Like I realized my queerness around the same time that I hired my life coach that I decided I wanted to get off food stamps and be rich, and I wanted to live a fully expressed life. So a lot of factors were coming together and in my church that was homophobic, that did paid me pennies. And that constantly censored me and told me what I was allowed to say and what I wasn't allowed to say. I knew I was going to lose my entire church, which that which back then was all of my friends. So as long as my community I was gonna lose my job I was in was my tiny source of income, all for the risk of what the unknown, I wasn't promised that I was going to make it or make a lot of money. Like I didn't know where I was going. I just knew I was like, the higher rose up in ranks. The longer I stayed in this path, the more suffocated I became. And I remember thinking at one point, Nicole, why are you settling for a job that pays you pennies to be who you can't even who you really aren't? And so there has to be something out there where you can be the fullness of yourself and make a crap ton of money. And that's what he's willing to go after? And willing to step in the unknown for Yeah, did you?Lesley Logan 16:11  Did you always think it was like, Did you always know that was going to be being a stripper? Or is it like, you tested out like different things? Like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm hobby hunting everyone, like, you know, like, so was it like, Were you trying out? Like, is it going to be this job? Or this job? Or did you kind of have some sort of clue.Nikole M. Mitchell 16:27  I've had so many jobs in my life, like, I feel like I've lived multiple lifetimes. I used to be a news anchor. I was a high school teacher. I was a bartender, I was a pastor. And I when I left it all and like something unknown as like, what do I want, and all these desires that I've had my entire life, I'm a very sexual person. I'm a very central person. I've been that way since I was five. When I got caught touching myself, right? Like I was very in touch with my body at a young age, it all came rushing back. And I used to be so afraid of it. Because I was taught in a church, it would ruin me, it would ruin my family, it would make me destitute, no one would want me yada yada, yada. But it all came back. And I was like, what would it look like if I trusted my desires instead of fear them? So I started to tune into my desires and like, what would it look like for me to post a sexy selfie? This is literally the first decision I made before I got into adult work because like, what would a little bit for me to post a sexy selfie? And I was terrified. This was in 2018 on Facebook, I'm like, What are they gonna think I'm intentionally posing intentionally trying to like, look cute. And I talked to two mentors like this A how much I thought about posting a single photo on Facebook that I thought was sexy. If I could show you now you like that is not sexy, I was like, ever since. And so mild. But for me, who always had to shrink for everyone's comfort. This was like a big stepping stone. Once I did that, I was like, Oh my gosh, you're telling me this can become a way of life where I can post what I want. wear what I want, say what I want, do what I want. That's the life I ultimately want.Lesley Logan 18:00  Yeah. So we we coach a lot of fitness instructors and, and it's really funny when they go to post anything for the first time. It's not a sexy hill selfie, it's like them doing a Pilates move or some like that. There's, I feel like anytime anyone is speaking their truth, like a fully going to show up and put themselves out there in a real way. I think the pressure that we put on that first one is like, it's so big no matter who you are, and what it is, but every industry when you but then eventually you keep doing it. And so obviously now that's like, it's like part of like, you know, the daily things that you do in a day isNikole M. Mitchell 18:35  the hardest, it's always gonna be the most awkward. It's never going to be as amazing as you think it is. You can train and edit and perfect as much as possible. But a year later, you're gonna look back and be like, I have so cute. Like I'm a little baby girl baby chick on wobbly legs back then, but hadn't posted that or done that thing, then you wouldn't be as confident, strong, trained, poised collected as you are today. I was even thinking about this today because for five years, I've been a life coach for five years. I've wanted to host a VIP event since the beginning. But I never had the confidence. I finally was like, eff it. I'm doing it, launched it and hosted my first VIP month last earn May was so extraordinary. And then say woke up and like I'm doing another one. And it just announced on social media. Nowhere near the fret didn't take me five years. Like, I was like, I'm so glad I did that first one because now it's out of the way it's so much easier from here on out.Lesley Logan 19:25  I love this because I do think it that like every single person no matter what your whatever your dream is, the first one has like all this pressure. It's very precious. It's like, it's like, like, you know, I don't know every it's like when you're 16 and going to prom. It's like the dress has to be perfect the hair everything has to be but then you're like, oh, okay, did that and actually doesn't need to be a big deal. I mean, it's kind of like parents with their first kid the oldest has like perfectionist issues because the parents made sure there's tons of photos of them. Everything is perfect. All the balloons are perfect. And then the second one comes along and they're like, here don't worry the bottle dropped. It's fine. I'll dust it off. Nikole M. Mitchell 20:00  So true as a mom of three, see you would wear out. But it's such a good way. It's like less controlling less perfection, more trusting. I trust my kids so much more than I ever have. They're capable, they're smart, they can figure things out, I don't need to hover or protect, like, as nearly as much as I thought I did. It does really get easier.Lesley Logan 20:23  So I'm gonna go back to like, the wobbly legs to the strong legs. What? What helped you go? Okay, I'm strong enough to tell some people because I mean, you were married and had kids at the time? Like, when how strong did you have to get your legs to feel like you could actually show up and to have that conversation? And then what was the preparation for that? Because I feel like that's where a lot of people are stuck is like, I want to change this career that I have. And I now I gotta tell this person over here who I'm in a life path with? How did that kind of go? Nikole M. Mitchell 20:53  You know, it's interesting. I've seen in the five years I've been coaching that when someone feels this deep urge to change something or want to go after something, they will often tell the one person that they say they expect to support them, but doesn't mean the very person is going to shoot them down. And it becomes a self sabotage. Like I tried, I even told my mom, I told my partner, they're like, that's crazy. You'll never like, have you thought about this? What if you get sued? What if that, and so then they stop. And it's like, really give yourself permission to not have to tell anyone. So I incubated for a year where like hunker down hired my life coach went deep. And during that year, I slowly told one person at a time, and I was very selective. I'm like, Who are the people? And if there's only one person who is the one person I know will believe me support me no matter what, even if they think I'm a little crazy. Because your dream is so fragile in the beginning. And if you give it to the wrong person too soon, and they they squash it with their fear, it will smother it. And like you were saying earlier, that might be it. So you have the permission to be very, very picky. So probably that first year, I maybe had four friends in my corner 100%. And then when I was like, I'm ready to have these hard conversations, both in person and even made announcements online, I would rally my small troop. And like when I post this online, please love on it, because I want to set the tone right away that I'm not available for criticism, I'm not available for pushback, and when they see all the love. I think it's gonna scare off anyone who would typically say anything negative, it was very intentional on my immergence because I was too afraid that if it was if that gust of wind was too strong, I would go running back and not do it again.Lesley Logan 22:33  That's actually really like amazing. But really, I I wish more people knew that that's how they could go about any of these things that they're doing like they can ask for people like I'm sure it'd be extremely hard to ask for people to be helpful in that way especially as like a recovering people pleaser like I need this help over here. But what a great way to protect yourself and I I think so often especially those of us who were raised in these paths where it's like this is how you're supposed to be this is how you're supposed to grow up it can be very difficult to go against the grain and then go and hey, by the way can you can you do this thing it's also probably against it that is that's very special I wonder what were the steps if you can remember any that could be helpful for people on their recovering people pleaser path because I feel like there are more people now than ever that are they like they'll actually proclaim I am a people pleaser as if it's a not a badge of honor but like but this makes me a good person and it's not that makes you a bad person if you are but it does make it's it's part of control and we're like how do we control how people feel about us? So what was that path that you went through to kind of help yourself out of becoming a people pleaser?Nikole M. Mitchell 23:51  Yeah, I reached this point. I think for all of us who are people pleasers are recovering people pleasers we can reach this point where it's like I don't know how much longer I can do this. I don't know how much longer I can keep being who everyone else seems me to me to be and I'm absolutely miserable on the inside. I had massive anxiety and depression during those years I've seen a therapist I didn't know one of the root causes was people pleasing another causes poverty, poverty is very expensive. On your your mental emotional being. Yeah, but like I was always contracting so much. I was always living in fear of what people thought I mean, did I say some that might might offend them? What are they thinking about me right now as we're laying in bed like it was all consuming. And you can only live that way so long. And so then I reached the point where like, I was talking to a mentor and like, I'd had these realizations with her of, you know, you don't deserve to be tolerated. You should be celebrated. That wasn't a standard in my relationships. My relationship was like we'll tolerate you because I'm I'm very passionate I'm emotional. I'm sensitive. I'm very social justice see, and like that's a little much for some people. So as always trying to hold back myself and like okay, we can tolerate you, but the standard should never be toleration and relationship or friendship. It should always be celebration, we celebrate your muchness and we want more, we celebrate your what you think is not enough, because you are an athlete, we want more of you. You're never ever, ever too much. Give us more, give us more. That's my standard in relationships now. And then I realized, the only reason I'm disappointing someone is two things, because I've performed as someone that I'm not really am. So that's on me. But also, it's on them for thinking that I need to stay the same person so they can feel good about themselves. So realize that when I started becoming my own person, it bothered people because like, I was no longer who they needed me to be. And when I realized that, that felt really icky. In my world, if I see you evolving, I am celebrating you, even if it's different from what I would want you to evolve into because the point is evil. The point is not to say the same if you are saying the same that as actually a little alarming to me, because like we're always learning and growing. But when my people saw that I was growing, and they were mad about that. That was a a clue or red flags like these are no longer my people. And if they exist, then certainly my people also exist. Am I willing to be brave enough and believe enough that they are out there too, and hold up for them.Lesley Logan 26:10  Oh my gosh, I couldn't love you more. Like that was the most beautiful thing like to I'm like, as you're saying that like oh my god, how many people like in my life are tolerating me versus celebrating me. And you know what, as you like, that is such an easy, it's an easier way to kind of go through a relationship and go oh, no wonder I feel weird in that environment because I'm being tolerated. Like, no wonder that doesn't make me feel excited when I leave.Nikole M. Mitchell 26:38  Like, we deserve so much more. He reminds me of them to know who Glennon Doyle is. Oh, yeah. Okay, so I love her. And we're best friends. But she just doesn't know it. Yeah. Lennon and Abby were getting married. She they were trying to come up their invitation list. And it was just like, so long. Like, we just want it smaller. This is too much like, Okay, who do we love? Because all the people on this list they loved? And who do we like? Who do we like and love? And that became their bar. And so I even love that version of the question is like, we can love a whole lot of people. But at the end of the day, who do you like being around? Who gives you life? Who makes you feel like a million bucks? who celebrates you every time you turn around? Like, those are the people I want in my most my innermost circle. Lesley Logan 27:22  Oh, yeah. That's what a great, that's for anyone planning a wedding and also like a party, and also like, trying to figure out, you know, I don't know about you, like, I'm 40 now, and we moved to Las Vegas, and so obviously still have my friends. I had, I've had friends from years. And I love that I think the ones that I've actually kept because I live in like them. And they live all over the world. So I was used to that when I lived in LA not a big deal. But I had a community in LA as well. Like, I went to the same gym every day. So it's all the same people. We moved here we were like indoors for a year. So that is like okay, I'm going out and I'm meeting people. And I feel like even just having though that thought like Who do I love who I like who who who sell who's celebrating me when I show up versus who's like kind of like tolerating me What an interesting way to not waste time trying to build community and find is that how you because I mean like you had a start here to find a whole new community so I feel like yeah, I don't know if I'm picturing like Nicole with like, slightly not wobbly legs like going into a group and went hi.Nikole M. Mitchell 28:23  You know what I said, so I'm a person of extreme measures. And so I know like not everyone's wired this way but I hope it gives you permission to do it your way is I literally moved to a new state okay, it was too big of a transition and too scary a transition that I was I knew my people couldn't come along with it and I was so into I was very integrated my my city that I was in like everyone knew me from in one way or another and I'm like, I need a fresh start. I need a clean slate so I packed up for Minnesota. I moved to California and the reason I love that is like no one knew who I used to be they would only know me as I introduced myself and so I went from this very religious environment very good girl small town quiet nothing wrong with that but it was not my truth to I am powerful I'm a badass I'm sexy I'm sweaty I want to make a crap ton of money. I don't know if I can spare Lesley Logan 29:14  You can totally talk people listen. Nikole M. Mitchell 29:18  A ton of money here I am take it or leave it and that was so freeing because that way right from the start I mean it still hurts when people meet you and they're like you're a little too much I'm gonna leave that always stings but it felt easier to do that with people I just met there was a whole community people I once was in relationship with.Lesley Logan 29:35  Yeah, I think like I feel like it sounds like such a bold move but it also makes the most sense because it's true you you get to introduce yourself as who you are. And then it's that take it or leave it like of course it's gonna stink because you're like oh my god, I want friends. I'm new here but it's like well, I know that you're not the friend that I want you see I'm too much for you already. Just just who I am is introducing myself. So what a what a special Oh, if it is possible, and if it's not, then like you really, maybe you go, maybe you can take an hour drive to a different city like, you know, even if it can't be a different state, I think like what a special way or because of online, there are these amazing communities where you can introduce yourself and be who you are, is that Nikole M. Mitchell 30:15  That's what I did. So like when I was still in Minnesota, I paid for friendships, or pay for access to friends. So I had a life coach, and then ended up joining a mastermind. So my community, my friendships were all online, because I was, I was poor, and I try to find rich people. I was a baby queer, I'm trying to find queer people, right. And I'm like baby legs trying to find my voice. And I want to find people who are already speaking their truth. And so right, I could easily find that online, because we're all finding each other from different states and countries. And those are my people for about the last I was in Minnesota for about two years, okay, with the online community. And then what I also did, because I was a baby queer, I started hanging on queer spaces, and thankfully, just takes one person, I had one friend, who was also queer, and she's like, I'm going to be your queer tour guide. And she started taking me to like queer clubs and queer bars and queer spaces. And so like, once a week, I would go out and like this is my haven, where Nicole can just be unleashed and uncensored and fully her and I would feel so amazing. It was like an energetic infusion to last me the next week. So yeah, finding a new place like giving yourself permission to get out of your routine, get out of your regular spots, take five minutes to Google clear club, take five minutes to Google, where do rich women hang out? Like what find your people, because it'll be enough to propel you to keep you going in the direction you want to go.Lesley Logan 31:35  Yes. And I think like, it's also it's often one person, and we then tend to think we need people and it's here. We've had her on the show, as one show all the time. And I'd bring friends there. And so I got to know the owners and I, I love shopping at small businesses, because I just really love supporting small business owners. And thank goodness for that. Because I got invited to a birthday party. I was like, we're going I'm like, we, I was like Brad, divide and conquer. Let's take on the round, we got to find, we gotta find a brand or I gotta find a friend. And so there's a ton of people who are lovely. But there's one person there who she's like, oh, no facial salon is like, and she knows everybody. And she's gonna know everybody. And I get her because we're both in like service industry. So like, I was like, Okay, I'm gonna make her my friend. And thank goodness, because, you know, most of the friends we have today in this town are because she introduced us. So she was like, our little Las Vegas like friend tour guide. And so you don't need a plethora of people to accept you need one person to who sees you who you are. And like, is that tour guide into that world that you want to go in? So that's, that's very special. And so, yeah, so you move? How so? You had I agree on masterminds? I think people think it's like weird to say pay for friends. Every if you were in a sorority you paid for. If your parents put you into private school, you pay for friends, like summer camps. Yeah. So and that's okay. There's nothing wrong with that. It doesn't have to be this like natural thing. And it's also okay, if you met your person online, like, we have to stop thinking that it's like, you know, there's one way to one special way to do anything. So how did you start to make a living for yourself? Because obviously, money is involved in everything. So like, you left being a pastor that that was paying you pennies, and you were on food stamps, what what did you have to do, like kind of get this way to be more independent and worked to the wealth that you deserved?Nikole M. Mitchell 33:33  So I My life changed so much. With my first life coach, I had hired him for six months, there was no evidence externally, all the evidence internally, I felt so confident I felt so clear, I felt so unstoppable. I felt so powerful. And this is a woman who felt very small, very breakable, very emotional, very stoppable. And sort of feels a different way I could feel my entire world shifting and like, and then I had this moment where I did the Small Business workshop, which I didn't have a business at this point, but I felt drawn to go there. And everyone's coming to me for advice. The whole like, how much should I charge for this? And how do you find clients? And how, what was your comment on branding on my coaching only small business owners and it clicked. Oh, my gosh, I'm a life coach. I've been doing this for years, every year for years, people have been flying to my house, spend a week with me, which we call VIP experiences in the life coaching world, which people pay tens of thousands of dollars to go to and hear like for free, come to my house. Stay with me and I'll take care of you and I'll support you. So this light bulb went off. I'm like, Oh my gosh, I've been doing this for years. I just never had the business framework or understanding to name it that so I started my life coaching business, and very quickly grew like and it was, I really believe is the result of the inner work like this shouldn't have been possible being on food stamps. Being a very, all our friends were very poor. We were in very religious circles who are not interested in personal development. But I felt so powerful and so I think magnetic because of it. I grew my business really quickly. And then it was in that journey that I'm like, I've always wanted to be a model, I've always wanted to do some kind of sexy work growing up. And I felt more confident. I was like, Well, what if I, like started like posting sexy photos. And then I learned about only fans like Mike. And I didn't when I did that it wasn't even for the money. And it wasn't even for other people. It was for me, it was one sacred space where Nicole could post whatever she wanted, wear whatever she wants, say whatever she wanted to just to practice. And then if maybe people subscribe, sure, but the point was practice here. So I can go out in the world and do it full-time. And so between those two, they both started to make me more money. And it was life-changing, because we were so poor.Lesley Logan 35:43  Okay, thank you for sharing that. I love that you're like, I'm just going to do this for me. I would think totally. I also think that like, a lot of the ideas that people have, they start to filter it out, like, how would people pay for this? Instead of like, how do I want to show up with this idea? And, and so, you know, because it's like, Yes, everyone has bills to pay. And, sure, but like, also, you you show up differently in the production of the work, if you're doing it for yourself versus like, okay, how do I do this? So it's monetized, people will pay for it. So okay, so that I also applies to all business. All business. Yeah. Okay. So, um, thank you for sharing that journey. Because it really is, it sounds like pastor to stripper and like, we've like you, the filling of the gaps was this amazing journey, and also clear discovering who you are. And then that life coaching thing, I love that it sounds like you kept doing the work. Like you're you, you're like, I'm a life coach. But I'm also doing this work for myself. And I'm becoming very clear of like, something else that I want to do, and continuing to grow, which is just like, going back to the conversation we had earlier. But we're always changing. We're always growing. So when did you get on Only Fans? And like, how long has that journey been? Because that's how I that's how I know you have the life coach part. And all the things that you do now with that is, is something you're still doing. But like what, what was how long has that journey been? Because not overnight, either?Nikole M. Mitchell 37:09  No. So I started my life coaching business in 2018. I started my Only Fans in 2019. So it was about a year and a half after I sold my business, I started Only Fans. And you're totally right. Like this is really good for any new business owner. You have to curate it for yourself. Right? So even for women, so I I work with clients and people who haven't only fans training, and I teach them like you're building an oasis, or you're building a museum that you love to walk through. So it's so much easier to show up and do what you love when you're not worried about how you're gonna get people paid. So the first year my Only Fans was just for me. So every time I open I'm like, Ah, oh my gosh. Those are so pretty. And like I love them so much. I have gotten so confident this point that I wish I could post those on Instagram. Like that's genuinely my desire. My work on Only Fans is so beautiful that I would post it for free that because I love it so much. But because Only Fans censors. Thank you Instagram, you've made me so much money. It's forced me to have a different platform where I I've been charged for it. But really, I would have done it for free because I love it so much. So the first year was just for me and then I end up going viral in 2020 as the pastor turned stripper as people learned my story, and then it blew up and then you know my only fans is blown up my life coaching business has blown up. But it all started with like a girl and the vision and a dream and just enough strength and faith to try it.Lesley Logan 38:28  Yeah, I I I would have for you. What if we met in person for the first time last night but we've talked before? But you genuinely do love your pictures? And I think it's amazing. Like it's amazing. Because I think it's amazing because so many people are like I don't like when when I work with a lot of women who are taking pictures for their Pilates business. And they're like, I don't know how to like the way that looks over my shoulder. It's like this. It's like, actually, like, what if we look at these pictures of like, oh my god, look how cute i Look there. Look how cute I look. They're like like, why? And like, I feel like even that part of you is something I wish I could like, pass on to every woman listening because like you look at your pictures and you're so excited about how you're looking at things. And I think that so many women were taught like, oh, well, actually don't brag about how you look. Don't be too proud about things likeNikole M. Mitchell 39:22  We were at dinner last night with Michael Unbroken and he saw my home screen and lock screen photo is a photo of my my ass like my body like of course you would like but it's so cute. Look at it. So totally I wish everyone would have permission feel that way. And I also know it takes 100 photos to find one good one now so this is where only fans has really been healing for me. It's a It's give me permission to take a shit ton of photos of myself or before it was like oh wait, that's an ease. I don't like it. That's enough. I'm fine because I won't be too much like no can you take another one and take another and take another one? So I take 100 photos to get the one or maybe two good ones. So I think we have to be really honest about that every photo I take does not pop. I'm very clear my Oh, hey, all those love that one I'm posting that one everywhere. And then second, I had a lot of body shame growing up in the environment that I did. And I didn't believe men that I dated and even on Only Fans that they would want to see my body and thinking beautiful, I was waiting for them to find all the wrong things with it just like I find all the wrong things that are wrong with it. And so as I started open up myself more and more, and they were raving about all personal body like I had a compliment today of a very insecure thing about her my body and a fan specifically complimented me on that with and I never told him my big insecurity with it. And I was like, I got teary-eyed like you don't even know how much that means to me. Like I actually have insecurities around them is like what I love it like, that has healed me to where I be very like I think part of it so contracted and literally covering my body and photos and even in modeling photos to where now like I do the full spread. It's because my fans help me realize my body is good. And I I want that for every woman. I want every woman to love her body. I want her to find affirmation one way or another whether it's from a dating partner or a coach, or Only Fans, like our healing comes in different ways. But for you to find those parts of your body that you tend to be the most insecure about someone else finds so beautiful.Lesley Logan 41:16  Oh 100% And I thanks for sharing about how many photos it takes or can take. Yeah, it's been legit. Yeah, it's so important. You guys, it's like, the photos will come through and I'm like, okay, we're gonna delete all. And it's also what's really funny is like my for some photos that I've kept, it's because my photographer or my husband like, Oh, my god, I love this one. And I'm like, of course, I saw the insecure part of me there. And they're loving it so much that I've gotten so much better about actually like accepting more photos of me that I probably wouldn't. And it does take time. So give yourself that permission. Okay, I do want to ask, like, what, what are some what's like something that women can do to kind of love their body more, because I do feel like you've gone through such a journey. What is something that they could do on a daily basis to kind of like fall in love with their own body because they need you. Like, I know that I know, the dress had to be below the knee. You know how many times I got in trouble for my dress like being above my knee because I was poor. My parents couldn't afford to buy clothes for growing kid every day. And so I got in trouble at school all the time. And like, there was fines or I was just like even more triggering because we were poor and couldn't afford it. So I was in trouble for that. So like, it took me so long to wear short shorts with like my cellulite app. I was like a journey of a lifetime. So yeah, so what what something that maybe we could all take away. So like how to love our bodies more,Nikole M. Mitchell 42:40  I have two thoughts. One is find someone who does love their body and all their fullness, because I think we just need to see evidence that it's possible. Because I think sometimes we think it's not possible, we I think we think we will live with self criticism for the rest of our life. And that's normal. But there also can be a different normal. And there can be normal where like you love your body and you love your cellulite and you love your roles and like find evidence from someone somewhere. And then secondly, my recommendation as scary as this might sound is I want you to take hundreds of photos of yourself because a you deserve to be captured be you're going to see yourself in a different light. And then thirdly, you're going to find different angles. So now that I've been doing this for four years now, I'm really good at finding my best angles that make me feel like a million bucks. Like I know how, like if I want to feel amazing, I'm going to pose this way. So just give yourself permission to explore and sometimes what I will do, because it's awkward, like take photo run back and like pose and take it like just leave it on video. And practice moving your body. I would recommend plain sensual music or some that makes you feel amazing. And just practice like touching and like being in the flow. And maybe if you feel really sexy and opposed just hold it for a second. This is how it looks on my own photos. I'm like I'll do videos and then I go through and I screenshot all my favorite poses. And I find some of my favorite poses tend to be very organic. I could never like you know, very stiff if you try to make it but when there's music and you're just feeling and then you pause that might be one of your best photos. Lesley Logan 44:06  I love that. I do. Thank you for that. Yeah, that's so if we could just help more women don't even understand it because I just it's so it does take time. You're right you've take hundreds and thousands of photos like my first photo shoots I'm like, okay, is this right like and so and then like you go it's like okay, it's another photo shoot, it's fine. You know, like I used to get ready for a photo shoot or have a photo shoot in a month so we got to change what we're eating what we're drinking all the things and now it's like oh, there's a photo shoot tomorrow. Okay.Nikole M. Mitchell 44:40  That reminds me as a photo shoot with two other models and I back then I would not eat at all in the mornings I want like tight everywhere and I started shooting my shoots first thing in the morning because I want to I don't want to I'm hungry. But this shoot was a little bit late in the day. I'm like okay, I can I can not eat for that long. And then at the photoshoot one of the models orders pizza. And I'm like, This is amazing. And she just like starts eating pizza and drinking soda like, and we're gonna get bloated but I'm like, there was such freedom and her freedom from that moment forward. I'm like, I'm just eating when I wake up and taking photos and like, and like you said, it's been a journey. And when I first started over edit every little blemish every little thing, and now I find, you know, which you'll find if you're in the only fans world or in the adult world majority of humans want to see authentic, yes, because everything is over edited. So I now like twice this week, I posted 20 photos, each zero edits. One of them I just woke up in the morning, I'm like, here's my bedhead. Here's my smeared makeup from last night. I'm like, my stomach is bloated because I'm on vacation and like they're like a real deal. But if you go to my Instagram, it's a little more curated, it's more whatever it's like, edited in professional. But if you go to my Only Fans, you're gonna see the real deal. And I think that's actually even really healing like learning to love yourself when you're glammed up and perfectly edited, and loving yourself first thing in the morning when you're hot mess like all of us.Lesley Logan 46:01  Yes, I mean, we all learn how to do because what I can't think of a better better way in the world to like, like, Be It Till You See It as like, just really loving yourself and all in all the stages of the day. And you know, I want to ask, because you are a mom of three, what how do you find balance of like, building all these, these businesses that really make you shine light up, pour into others online to others, and also, like, be a mom of three kids who are growing? I mean, like, you have to be present for them as well. So is there do you have like time blocks in your day? Do you have helped? Like, how? How do you navigate that?Nikole M. Mitchell 46:39  So the beautiful thing about success and wealth, which I'm like, so committed to reclaiming for women, because we have a lot of fear and stigma around it, is it gives you so much freedom. So I left coaching and I've Only Fans who would technically say their full time jobs because they make me a lot of money. But I work very few hours, like you eventually get to a point your business like when you first start, it's clunky, it's awkward, it takes all your time and energy to figure things out. But you eventually get systems and processes in place. And then you eventually on automation. Don't even worry about that from the beginning, it'll come it just it will come. So things kind of run pretty well on their own, allowing me to be very, very present for my children. And then secondly, I also have an assistant who works for me full time, or almost full time. And that's another gift of money. When you have money, you can hire support. So she does my cooking my cleaning my errands, which makes me even more present for my children. So while she's doing laundry upstairs, I'm playing with my children in the living room. And I had to learn that that was okay. Because that was alarming to me that someone else is working this this people pleasing sigh like I don't want to disappoint. I don't wanna be too much here. She's working in my house. But the reason I have are working is so that I can be a present mom. And so I think women giving ourselves permission to become as rich as you actually want to be. It's incredibly supportive for the kind of lifestyle you want to have. And then allowing that duality of someone else gets to work while I rest in play.Lesley Logan 48:01  Yeah, I thank you and I, I and I also, I've showed this before on the podcast, we've heard it like, we have a housekeeper Her name is Rosie fucking love this woman to love her. And when they were talking, and I was like, hey, Rosie, like, how's everything going? Like, you know? Are we too much for you? Like, is this is everything working out with? Okay, she's like, let's say she's like, my sister said I should go work in the restaurants with her. And I said, No, I will have my house cleaning business because I can work when I want to work. And I can be there to pick my kids up and I can take my kids and I get to take days off when my kids are off. And so the thing is, is that like, I get to pay her to clean my house so that I can be present in our business so that I can do things to make sure that I can fill my cup up. And in paying her she actually gets to be there for her kids and have the life she wants to have. And I think sometimes especially as women we're like, oh my god, like I like It's like weird to have this housekeeper like I have I had some friends who like wouldn't even let their neighbors know they had a housekeeper like they would like hide this like pull into the driveway. I'm like, oh my god, like we have we have a guy picks up the dog poop every Tuesday and then Rosie comes in we have a landscaper and like all those people have families they can take care of. Yeah. And so it's really important to know that like when you make money you can actually empower other people to have the job that they want to have that allows them to take care of the dreams that they have and I think that is we can't state that enough because it's you don't have to do it allNikole M. Mitchell 49:25  You can if you really want to create next-level success and wealth you actually can't do it all I think that's a really important distinction is I do believe you can have it all but you cannot do it all and so let yourself having all requires delegation and I love like and being shame free about it like my neighbors are so confused who my who my assistant is is like Is this your girlfriend? Is this your wife? Is this your sister like they have that every time someone comes and does work in my house? Like Wait, who am I chick? This is my boss Nikole. I work for her like Oh, I thought you were this I thought you were so this is I find it so fun to keep people guessing. But yeah, my sister is like I love that. Your house is so calm. I'm peaceful and she's like, and I you saw her get flowers all the time or take a little break right now, but she's like I do flowers Everyone say, and then I guess like run errands and it's beautiful sunny weather and then she loves my kids and my kids love her. And she always wanted more kids but didn't wasn't able to have more kids. She's like your kids have become my kids. And like, I seen her so happy and like, this is the beauty of wealth. It does it empowers and gives back and creates this ripple effect of freedom.Lesley Logan 50:23  Yeah, cool. I literally could keep talking to you forever. I know. Like, I want you to visit every week. So I don't even want to end this but I do want to respect everyone's time. So we're gonna take a brief break and then I'm gonna, we're gonna come back and I'm gonna ask you something about I mean, you've given us so much but bold, executable, intrinsic targeted steps people can take to beat till they see it. So one quick break and then we'll find out that Okay, first, where can people find to follow you? Like, like you can be their inspiration of people who love themselves.Nikole M. Mitchell 51:02  I love it. I'm active on almost all the socials Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, I'm just starting Tik Tok anytime people. Like you can find all my links on my website, nikolemitchell.com. Nikole is spelled N-I-K-O-L-E. But come say hi. Yes, me. Yeah, yeah.Lesley Logan 51:16  Okay. And it makes sure you guys tell her all of your favorite takeaways, of course, what was your most favorite thing, but alright, so I believe like, sometimes it can be fun to be inspired. And like, it can be like, you can give that dose like, Okay, this is a great conversation he's had. But I also know that our listeners love something tanned, like a takeaway that they can take action on right now. So an action step or two that they can do this week. Absolutely. Nikole M. Mitchell 51:42  I love that. So one is whatever is on your heart right now you know what it is that nudge that thing, you need to do that thing you need to say the thing you need to start doing you need to stop whatever that thing is on your heart do it, I'm gonna say today, there's nothing like the more like that fires in your belly, you have to take action on today. Because the longer you sit with it, the faster you'll talk yourself out of it. So you have to do it today. Do the thing. And then the second thing is get really honest about what you want, own it and speak into existence. So I'll give an example. I money is very motivating to me, I was very poor. So I know what it's like to live without it. I never want to go back to that life. So I'm very driven by money. And I own that. And something I'm really good at I'm really good at connections and referrals. But I really like being paid for referrals because I'm really good at it. And I love money. If you pay me for any business, I send you your way, I will send you so much business. So at first I was afraid to own that. Like I don't even think I'm greedy. I'm like asking for money. But it's like, I know I will make you so much business with my recommendations or referral. So if they sign up to work with you, I want a small kickback. So I remember I talked to this one guy for his business, he was wanting me to refer him out after working with my business. And I said, Hey, here's thing, I would love to recommend you I think you're amazing. But I only do it if cash is involved. So if you're cool with cash bonuses, I will recommend you everywhere because I love what you do. If you're not cold cash bonuses. Totally cool. I just want to do it. And so that's just my thing I'm just driven by, and then he must have like, he's like, Oh my gosh, I'm the exact same way. And I appreciate you saying that, because that's my preference. I just don't ever say that. So by me owning it, he owned it. And now I make money off those business referrals. So again, just getting really clear on what it is that you want. You have to own it. And then you kindly but forthrightly let people know. And that's how you get what you want.Lesley Logan 53:26  Ah, yes, yes. And you. So another, I want to give another example, this, we have some we're bringing into our bit, we bring in different webinar guests every month to our coaching group. And we're like, look, you can do lead magnets, they know what it is. So you can do that. And you can sell them in a lead magnet. Like that's how that's gonna be. But We kindly ask that, like, if you have an affiliate link, we'd like to do that. You know, and when you it is absolutely even better relationships, even when they're best friends, because everyone is winning. No one is feeling used, you know, like it because energy. So I always say like energy is money. So, for example, even like, so, when I teach Pilates, my client cannot teach me Pilates. So they're not able to give me the energy I just gave back to them. So the only way they can give me my energy back is if they pay me for it. And the only reason you would feel resentful or exhausted the end of a day of work that you love doing is if you're under charging, because they're they're not paying back the full energy load and you're upset or you're not even tent like maybe I don't think it's them. You're like I'm just exhausted in the date. Well, it's because you didn't get your energy paid back. But if you actually charge your worth, they paid it. You're like, this is fucking amazing. Everybody wins.Nikole M. Mitchell 54:37  Everybody wins. And I just want to say that too. I mean, we're going keep going. T

In this week's episode on Next Page, Laura and Todd sit down with Michael Unbroken, who shares his personal journey of overcoming a traumatic childhood marked by abuse, addiction, and homelessness. He emphasizes the importance of taking responsibility for one's own life and shares his "mirror moment" when he decided to stop being a victim and become the hero of his own story. Michael also discusses the power of mindset and the role it plays in overcoming trauma. He encourages listeners to give themselves permission to dream of a better life and to take small steps towards that vision. He also highlights the importance of finding community and support in the healing process.He emphasizes the need to take responsibility for one's own actions and choices, including what one consumes and the thoughts one entertains. Michael also highlights the impact of societal indoctrination on anxiety, particularly the pressure to conform to societal expectations and the lack of emphasis on pursuing one's dreams and passions. He further explores the concept of trust in oneself and the fear of being authentic. He encourages listeners to trust themselves and embrace their true selves, despite the fear of judgment and rejection. Michael emphasizes that living authentically and pursuing one's dreams is the key to a fulfilling life.Key Takeaways:Childhood trauma can have a profound impact on a person's life, but it is possible to overcome and heal.Taking responsibility for one's own life is crucial in the healing process.Mindset plays a significant role in overcoming trauma.Giving oneself permission to dream of a better life and taking small steps towards that vision is essential.Finding community and support is crucial in the healing process.Trusting oneself is essential for personal growth and authenticity.Living authentically and pursuing one's dreams is the key to a fulfilling life.Links:https://www.thinkunbroken.com/Website - https://www.thinkunbroken.com/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/michaelunbroken/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/MichaelUnbrokenYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC95YX4cZdz39HHIaLZYFsGATwitter – https://twitter.com/i/flow/login?redirect_after_login=%2FthinkunbrokenAbuse HotlineCheck out Next Page at www.nextpagepodcast.comFollow us on Instagram @nextpagepodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Michael was born to a hyper-abusive drug addict mother who cut his finger off at 4 years old, a step-father you pray you never have, and a racist grandmother that pushed him into an identity crisis. By the time he was 9, his family was in poverty and often homeless all while being members of the Mormon Church. At twelve, he was adopted by his grandmother and quickly turned to drugs and alcohol to survive the continuing abuse. Despite multiple learning disabilities and not graduating high school on time, Michael found success in Corporate America in his early twenties. However, success only made things worse. Michael became morbidly obese, high and drunk daily, and ultimately self-sabotaging everything around him. It was not until finding his inner power through his Mirror Moment and choosing to do whatever it took to work through childhood trauma that his life began. Michael Anthony is the author of the best-selling book Think Unbroken and is a coach, mentor, and educator for adult survivors of child abuse. Michael spends his time helping other survivors get out of "The Vortex" to become the hero of their own story and take their lives back. Michael hosts The Think Unbroken podcast, teaches at Think Unbroken Academy, and is on a mission to end generational trauma by giving survivors the tools to be the hero of their stories.   More of Michael: Website: thinkunbroken.com/ Instagram: @michaelunbroken Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/traumasurvivormentorandcoach/

Hey there, listeners! Have I got an episode for you today! Strap in because we've got a powerful and transformative story coming your way. In this eye-opening episode, we welcome Michael Unbroken, a man who grew up in a household plagued by violence and a strained relationship with his brothers. From the get-go, Michael takes us on a rollercoaster ride through his troubled past, sharing about his abusive childhood and the hardships he faced. He's candid about how his life spiraled into drugs, crime, and chaos after being kicked out of school. But here's where it gets interesting – Michael realizes that money might just be the key to escaping his chaotic life and sets a goal for himself. But hold up! Before we dive deeper into Michael's journey, let's take a quick moment to talk about our amazing sponsor, Hostage Tape. Need to improve your sleep and facial features? Look no further! Hostage Tape has got you covered. But don't worry, we'll get back to Michael's story in just a moment. Alright, back to Michael. Fast forward to rock bottom, where his own brother disowns him, prompting Michael to search for change. And you know what? He does something incredible – he decides to make no excuses and begins a path of personal growth. Through therapy, coaching, yoga, meditation, and journaling, he frees himself from the chaos that once consumed him. One of the most powerful moments in this episode is when Michael shares how he found inspiration to share his nightmares from a line in a horror movie. He realizes that speaking about his traumas can help him regain control over his life. It's truly awe-inspiring. But it doesn't stop there. Michael also delves into the importance of investing in oneself, closing the gap between who you are and who you want to be. He talks about the dangers of numbing oneself with prescriptions and how taking action is crucial for true transformation. And let's not forget about relationships! Michael shares his personal insights on dating from a place of hurt and the importance of self-love before diving into partnerships. He's determined to find the right person, and we can't help but admire his commitment to his own growth. As the episode comes to an end, we're left with this powerful message – where you are today does not have to be where you are tomorrow. It's time to make a decision and do the work for your health and mental well-being. So, what are you waiting for? This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to break free from the chains of their past and embark on a journey of personal growth. Tune in now and join us on this incredible ride. You won't regret it. Until next time, peace out, and remember, healing and transformation are within your reach. BUSINESS INQUIRIES: Jenna@DigitalSocialHour.com SPONSORS: AG1: https://www.drinkAG1.com/DSH Hostage Tape: https://hostagetape.com/DSH --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/digitalsocialhour/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Most of us have some kind of trauma in our past. Usually during childhood…and to varying degrees. But in some way, it has changed the way we think and feel about ourselves and the world around us.  Sometimes, we can't help but feel broken. Trauma can shatter our sense of security and overwhelm our coping skills leaving us feeling isolated, ashamed, and afraid to reach out for help. But reaching out for help doesn't make you weak. It means that you're human and you're trying your best and it doesn't have to be a life sentence.  That's according to our guest this week. We'll talk with Michael Unbroken, host of the Think Unbroken podcast, about the mess of a life you were given and how to start cleaning it up. Topics discussed: Childhood trauma and its effects on individuals. Coping skills and dealing with trauma. Overcoming the feeling of being broken due to past traumas. The importance of taking responsibility for one's life and choices. Strategies to clean up the mess left by past trauma. The impact of childhood neglect and abuse on adult life. The significance of self-awareness and self-improvement in healing. Making the decision to stop playing the victim and take action. The power of motivation, perseverance, and personal growth in overcoming challenges. *This episode was originally published May 10th 2022 ---- GUEST WEBSITE: https://www.thinkunbroken.com/  ---- MORE FROM THE FIT MESS: Get bonus clips and additional resources in our newsletter! Connect with us on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and Tiktok Subscribe to The Fit Mess on Youtube Join our community in the Fit Mess Facebook group ---- LINKS TO OUR PARTNERS: Take control of how you'd like to feel with Apollo Neuro Explore the many benefits of cold therapy for your body with Nurecover Muse's Brain Sensing Headbands Improve Your Meditation Practice. Get started as a Certified Professional Life Coach! Get a Free One Year Supply of AG1 Vitamin D3+K2, 5 Travel Packs Revamp your life with Bulletproof Coffee You Need a Budget helps you quickly get out of debt, and save money faster! Use Vibrant Blue Oils to improve the flow of energy through your body.  Start your own podcast!    

Money can't buy you happiness. Just ask Michael Unbroken, podcaster and today's guest alongside Mark Kinsley in this episode of the Sleep Summit Show. In this episode, Michael discusses his unstable upbringing, including abuse, neglect, poverty, and being bounced between 30 homes by age 12. Determined not to be another statistic, Michael overcame the odds and landed a corporate job making almost seven figures by the time he was 26. Yet, money didn't bring the happiness or stability he assumed it would. Picking himself back up, Michael provides a unique perspective and practical tips on overall wellness and how sleep plays a vital role. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sleepsummitshow/message

On The HEAL BLOG this week don't miss 8 Crucial Reasons You Should Take A Mental Health Day The reason you don't feel happy is because you're living your life to please other people. Growing up in chaotic and traumatic environments conditions us to prioritise pleasing others as a means of ensuring our own safety. However, choosing to live life on your own terms is the most empowering decision you will ever make. In this quick chat episode Michael Unbroken discusses his journey of breaking the cycle of chaos within his family and embracing a life that aligns with his true self. If you have a story to share for this podcast please connect with me at www.instagram.com/mybigloveproject or send an email to ⁠⁠bigloveproject@iinet.net.au⁠⁠. I would LOVE! to connect with you. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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From homeless to hero, Michael Unbroken, is the Founder of Think Unbroken, best-selling author, award-winning speaker, podcast host, coach, and advocate for adult survivors of childhood trauma. At 4 years old Michael's emotionally incestuous mother cut off his right index finger, she was a drug addict and alcoholic. Join James and Michael as they talk about how to deal with Trauma and build your life intentionally. The post 260: From Homeless to Hero: Redesigning your Life with Michael Unbroken appeared first on .

Join us for an inspiring conversation with guest speaker Nick Nanton as we delve into the power of storytelling to create hope in your life. Nick has created over 60 films and one sold-out Broadway show, with his work featuring remarkable people and organizations such as Rudy Ruettiger, Peter Diamandis, Operation Underground Railroad, folds of Honor, canines for warriors, and more. With over twenty-two Emmy Awards, impact 100 at the United Nations, three gold records, and recognized as a 40 under 40, Nick is a powerhouse in the film and documentary industry. In this episode, we explore how storytelling can be a tool for creating hope in your life, the impact of sharing stories about people who we may never hear about, and how to learn, grow, and transform through storytelling. Tune in to this episode to gain practical insights from Nick and discover how to leverage the power of storytelling to create a positive change in your life. ************* LINKS & RESOURCES ************* Learn how to heal and overcome childhood trauma, narcissistic abuse, ptsd, cptsd, higher ACE scores, anxiety, depression, and mental health issues and illness. Learn tools that therapists, trauma coaches, mindset leaders, neuroscientists, and researchers use to help people heal and recover from mental health problems. Discover real and practical advice and guidance for how to understand and overcome childhood trauma, abuse, and narc abuse mental trauma. Heal your body and mind, stop limiting beliefs, end self-sabotage, and become the HERO of your own story.   Join our FREE COMMUNITY as a member of the Unbroken Nation: https://www.thinkunbrokenacademy.com/share/AEGok414shubQSzq?utm_source=manual  Download the first three chapters of the Award-Winning Book Think Unbroken: Understanding and Overcoming Childhood Trauma: https://book.thinkunbroken.com/  Join the Think Unbroken Trauma Transformation Course: https://coaching.thinkunbroken.com/  @Michael Unbroken: https://www.instagram.com/michaelunbroken/  Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@michaelunbroken  Learn more at https://www.thinkunbrokenpodcast.com  Listen more about Nick Nanton at: https://nicknanton.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the Think Unbroken Podcast! In this episode, we have a very special guest, John Lee Dumas, who is a former Army officer, successful entrepreneur, and the host of the top-rated business podcast, Entrepreneur on Fire. Join us as we delve deep into John's journey, experiences, and the highs and lows of his career. We discuss his path to success, the challenges he faced along the way, and the strategies he used to overcome them. Whether you're an aspiring entrepreneur or just looking to learn from someone who's been there and done it, this episode is packed with valuable insights and practical tips. So, tune in and discover the secrets to success from one of the most inspiring voices in the business world. ************* LINKS & RESOURCES ************* Learn how to heal and overcome childhood trauma, narcissistic abuse, ptsd, cptsd, higher ACE scores, anxiety, depression, and mental health issues and illness. Learn tools that therapists, trauma coaches, mindset leaders, neuroscientists, and researchers use to help people heal and recover from mental health problems. Discover real and practical advice and guidance for how to understand and overcome childhood trauma, abuse, and narc abuse mental trauma. Heal your body and mind, stop limiting beliefs, end self-sabotage, and become the HERO of your own story.  Join our FREE COMMUNITY as a member of the Unbroken Nation: https://www.thinkunbrokenacademy.com/share/AEGok414shubQSzq?utm_source=manual  Download the first three chapters of the Award-Winning Book Think Unbroken: Understanding and Overcoming Childhood Trauma: https://book.thinkunbroken.com/  Join the Think Unbroken Trauma Transformation Course: https://coaching.thinkunbroken.com/  @Michael Unbroken: https://www.instagram.com/michaelunbroken/  Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@michaelunbroken  Learn more at https://www.thinkunbrokenpodcast.com  Listen more about John Lee Dumas at: https://www.eofire.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, I explore the topic of control in life and how it can impact my ability to create the life I desire. I share my personal journey and realization that sometimes letting go of control can actually lead to greater control and success in life. I delve into the idea of balancing between taking charge of what I can control while also learning to let go of what I can't. The discussion includes practical tips and insights for listeners who may be struggling to find the right balance in their own lives. Tune in to learn how to master control and create the life you want. ************* LINKS & RESOURCES *************  Learn how to heal and overcome childhood trauma, narcissistic abuse, ptsd, cptsd, higher ACE scores, anxiety, depression, and mental health issues and illness. Learn tools that therapists, trauma coaches, mindset leaders, neuroscientists, and researchers use to help people heal and recover from mental health problems. Discover real and practical advice and guidance for how to understand and overcome childhood trauma, abuse, and narc abuse mental trauma. Heal your body and mind, stop limiting beliefs, end self-sabotage, and become the HERO of your own story.  Join our FREE COMMUNITY as a member of the Unbroken Nation: https://www.thinkunbrokenacademy.com/share/AEGok414shubQSzq?utm_source=manual  Download the first three chapters of the Award-Winning Book Think Unbroken: Understanding and Overcoming Childhood Trauma: https://book.thinkunbroken.com/  Join the Think Unbroken Trauma Transformation Course: https://coaching.thinkunbroken.com/  @Michael Unbroken: https://www.instagram.com/michaelunbroken/  Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@michaelunbroken  Learn more at https://www.thinkunbrokenpodcast.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, we sit down with Travis Chappell, the creator of one of the biggest podcasts on planet earth, to discuss personal growth and uncovering life lessons. Travis shares his journey of stepping away from societal expectations and finding his own path to success. We delve into topics such as building confidence, working through failure, and taking responsibility. This conversation is filled with profound insights and valuable lessons that listeners won't want to miss. So grab a notebook and tune in for a powerful episode that will inspire you to show up for yourself and create the life you truly want. ************* LINKS & RESOURCES ************* Learn how to heal and overcome childhood trauma, narcissistic abuse, ptsd, cptsd, higher ACE scores, anxiety, depression, and mental health issues and illness. Learn tools that therapists, trauma coaches, mindset leaders, neuroscientists, and researchers use to help people heal and recover from mental health problems. Discover real and practical advice and guidance for how to understand and overcome childhood trauma, abuse, and narc abuse mental trauma. Heal your body and mind, stop limiting beliefs, end self-sabotage, and become the HERO of your own story.  Join our FREE COMMUNITY as a member of the Unbroken Nation: https://www.thinkunbrokenacademy.com/share/AEGok414shubQSzq?utm_source=manual  Download the first three chapters of the Award-Winning Book Think Unbroken: Understanding and Overcoming Childhood Trauma: https://book.thinkunbroken.com/  Join the Think Unbroken Trauma Transformation Course: https://coaching.thinkunbroken.com/  @Michael Unbroken: https://www.instagram.com/michaelunbroken/  Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@michaelunbroken  Learn more at https://www.thinkunbrokenpodcast.com  Listen more about Travis Chappell at: https://travischappell.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, join us as we dive deep into the topic of inner child healing and trauma recovery with special guest Trish Philipps, also known as The Doodle Doc. Our host shares their personal journey of reconciling with their inner child and how it led to a wealth of compassion and self-love. Trish is an expert in inner child work and trauma healing, making this episode a valuable resource for anyone struggling to create deeper compassion for their inner child. Whether you're dealing with past trauma or simply seeking personal growth, you won't want to miss this powerful conversation. Tune in to discover the transformative power of inner child healing and how it can create massive change in your life. ************* LINKS & RESOURCES ************* Learn how to heal and overcome childhood trauma, narcissistic abuse, ptsd, cptsd, higher ACE scores, anxiety, depression, and mental health issues and illness. Learn tools that therapists, trauma coaches, mindset leaders, neuroscientists, and researchers use to help people heal and recover from mental health problems. Discover real and practical advice and guidance for how to understand and overcome childhood trauma, abuse, and narc abuse mental trauma. Heal your body and mind, stop limiting beliefs, end self-sabotage, and become the HERO of your own story.  Join our FREE COMMUNITY as a member of the Unbroken Nation: https://www.thinkunbrokenacademy.com/share/AEGok414shubQSzq?utm_source=manual  Download the first three chapters of the Award-Winning Book Think Unbroken: Understanding and Overcoming Childhood Trauma: https://book.thinkunbroken.com/  Join the Think Unbroken Trauma Transformation Course: https://coaching.thinkunbroken.com/  @Michael Unbroken: https://www.instagram.com/michaelunbroken/  Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@michaelunbroken  Learn more at https://www.thinkunbrokenpodcast.com  Listen more about Dr. Trish Phillips at: https://www.thedoodledoc.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Are you tired of constantly feeling burned out and resentful because of your tendency to put others before yourself? In this episode, we explore the link between burnout and co-dependency, particularly in the context of people-pleasing. Our guest, Michael Unbroken, shares his own experience of burnout and how it can lead to resentment when we neglect our own needs.     Michael emphasizes the importance of reciprocation for achieving balance in our relationships, and he believes that the cornerstone of healing, growth, and development is putting yourself first. He provides insights into leveraging your identity and values to prioritize your own needs and set boundaries with others.     Our conversation also delves into the three different filters of values, boundaries, and morality that we use to make decisions, and we explore the myth that self-care is selfish. Michael emphasizes the importance of self-trust in decision-making and highlights the role of clarity in achieving success in life.     By the end of this episode, you will learn about the detrimental effects of co-dependency and people-pleasing, and you will gain valuable insights into how you can prioritize your own needs without feeling guilty. This podcast is perfect for anyone who has experienced burnout and wants to learn how to break free from the cycle of resentment and neglect. Tune in now to Decode Your Burnout!     ABOUT MICHAEL:   Michael Unbroken, a trauma survivor with an ACE score of ten, went from being homeless to becoming the hero of his own story. He has coached thousands of trauma survivors around the world, helping them love themselves and overcome their trauma. He is the author of "Think Unbroken," a best-selling book, and hosts "The Think Unbroken" podcast. Michael is also a coach, mentor, and educator for adult survivors of child abuse, and through his work at the "Think Unbroken Academy," he is on a mission to end generational trauma in his life through education and information.     RESOURCES:   1. Want Michael's opinion? Follow him on social @ThinkUnbroken 2. Listen to Michael's podcast: https://www.thinkunbroken.com/ 3. Get the book, “The Alchemist”: https://amzn.to/3KB61kb 4. Sign up for a free Breakthrough Session with Dr. Sharon: http://www.bookachatwithsharon.com 5. Take the first step to decode your burnout: http://decodeyourburnout.com      

In this episode, we delve into the world of parenting with Dr. Cameron (Dr. Cam) Caswell, Ph.D., the “teen translator.” As an adolescent psychologist and family success coach, Dr. Cam specializes in helping parents build strong, positive relationships with their teens through her PRIME Parenting Method. In this podcast, we explore the importance of understanding the impact of childhood experiences on our development, and how this affects our parenting style. Dr. Cam shares her expertise on effective communication, connection, and understanding to help parents navigate the challenging journey of parenting their teenagers. Her fun and interactive approach empowers parents to work with their teen's wiring rather than against it, boosting their development of a positive, healthy sense of self. Tune in to gain insights and practical tips that will leave you feeling hopeful, supported, and motivated for change. ************* LINKS & RESOURCES ************* Learn how to heal and overcome childhood trauma, narcissistic abuse, ptsd, cptsd, higher ACE scores, anxiety, depression, and mental health issues and illness. Learn tools that therapists, trauma coaches, mindset leaders, neuroscientists, and researchers use to help people heal and recover from mental health problems. Discover real and practical advice and guidance for how to understand and overcome childhood trauma, abuse, and narc abuse mental trauma. Heal your body and mind, stop limiting beliefs, end self-sabotage, and become the HERO of your own story.  Join our FREE COMMUNITY as a member of the Unbroken Nation: https://www.thinkunbrokenacademy.com/share/AEGok414shubQSzq?utm_source=manual  Download the first three chapters of the Award-Winning Book Think Unbroken: Understanding and Overcoming Childhood Trauma: https://book.thinkunbroken.com/   Join the Think Unbroken Trauma Transformation Course: https://coaching.thinkunbroken.com/  @Michael Unbroken: https://www.instagram.com/michaelunbroken/  Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@michaelunbroken  Learn more at https://www.thinkunbrokenpodcast.com  Listen more about Dr. Cameron at: https://www.askdrcam.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join us for an inspiring and insightful episode as we welcome Kelly Gores, the writer, director, and producer of HEAL, to discuss the body's innate ability to heal itself. As trauma survivors, many of us carry a lot of pain and suffering in our bodies, and Kelly sheds light on how we can tap into our body's healing potential. With her expertise in the mind-body connection and her experience in producing a documentary on the topic, Kelly shares valuable insights on how we can trust ourselves, navigate the healthcare system, and explore the benefits of eastern medicine. In this conversation, we explore the power of the placebo effect and its role in healing, making this episode a must-listen for anyone seeking to optimize their physical and mental health. Tune in to this empowering and informative episode to learn more about unlocking your body's healing potential. ************* LINKS & RESOURCES ************* Learn how to heal and overcome childhood trauma, narcissistic abuse, ptsd, cptsd, higher ACE scores, anxiety, depression, and mental health issues and illness. Learn tools that therapists, trauma coaches, mindset leaders, neuroscientists, and researchers use to help people heal and recover from mental health problems. Discover real and practical advice and guidance for how to understand and overcome childhood trauma, abuse, and narc abuse mental trauma. Heal your body and mind, stop limiting beliefs, end self-sabotage, and become the HERO of your own story.  Join our FREE COMMUNITY as a member of the Unbroken Nation: https://www.thinkunbrokenacademy.com/share/AEGok414shubQSzq?utm_source=manual  Download the first three chapters of the Award-Winning Book Think Unbroken: Understanding and Overcoming Childhood Trauma: https://book.thinkunbroken.com/  Join the Think Unbroken Trauma Transformation Course: https://coaching.thinkunbroken.com/  @Michael Unbroken: https://www.instagram.com/michaelunbroken/  Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@michaelunbroken  Learn more at https://www.thinkunbrokenpodcast.com  Listen more about Kelly Gores at: https://www.healdocumentary.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Having clarity on what you want is important. Having clarity on who you want to become is powerful.Knowing what you value most and leveraging your values to prioritize what you need to focus on keeps your actions and your choices aligned with your vision of who you want to become. This is true for a person, team, business, or brand.Michael Unbroken shares his incredible story and his gift for teaching others to face their fears and achieve big goals. He challenges us all to look in the mirror, acknowledge where we are, and push for bigger results.Without clarity on your values, you will never be able to make the right decisions. Visit the1thing.com/values to see our Core Values Deck and find the clarity you need to move forward.To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: the1thing.com/pods.We talk about:Taking ownership over your actions and the direction of your futureThe iterative process of self-improvementHaving a willingness to change and breaking out of your comfort zoneUsing your values to align your decision-makingLinks & Tools from This EpisodeLearn more at thinkunbroken.comthinkunbrokenacademy.comInstagram: @michaelunbrokenFree ResourcesWant to be a guest or share feedback? Email podcast@the1thing.com

Speaking Podcast Social Media / Coaching My Other Podcasts + Donations https://bio.link/podcaster ==================== Bio of Michael: From homeless to hero, Michael Unbroken is the founder of Think Unbroken, a serial entrepreneur, best-selling author, award-winning speaker, podcast host, business coach, and advocate for adult survivors of childhood trauma. Michael started his first business at only eight years old, became an executive at thirty-three, and has worked with multi Fortune 500 brands, small business owners, and entrepreneurs to get clarity on their brand positioning, marketing value, and missions. What we Discussed: - His mother cut off his finger when he was 4yrs - His step father put him in hospital numerous times - How to not be hurt when retelling a traumatic story - Started with Standup Comedy to become a speaker - Consistency Builds Confidence - Know the Rules of the game - Expect the Unexpected - Winning Grant Cardone's 10 X Competition - Don't Negociate with Your Dreams - His Podcast Mission - Don't let a No Crush Your Dreams - There is no Disney Moment. You Must Make Your Dreams Come through and more How to Contact Michael: https://www.thinkunbroken.com https://www.thinkunbrokenpodcast.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MichaelUnbroken/ Twitter: https://www.Twitter.com/michaelunbroken Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/michaelunbroken YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC95YX4cZdz39HHIaLZYFsGA LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/traumasurvivormentorandcoach/ =============== Speaking Podcast Social Media / Coaching My Other Podcasts + Donations https://bio.link/podcaster --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/roy-coughlan/message