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The NRA's corruption trial carried on last week with Wayne LaPierre taking the stand for the first time. So, I invited one of the best gunwriters in the country on the show to talk about it. Cam Edwards is not only the editor of Bearing Arms, but he's a former NRA News and NRATV host. That means he worked for Ackerman McQueen, which is the contractor at the center of the NRA corruption allegations. That gave him some special insight into how the relationship between the two sides. Cam was willing to be very candid about what he saw during his years at the organization. He said sometimes there were signs of outrageous spending, but he said those in the lower levels of each side didn't know about the kind of mismanagement LaPierre and others had admitted to in court. He decried the way high-level executives wasted NRA money on their own personal expenses. He pointed to former NRA CFO Woody Philips using the group's funds to commute from Texas to Virginia. He said he would often forgo reimbursement for legitimate business expenses when working on behalf of the NRA and never dreamed of using NRA funds for his commute after he moved several hours from the office he broadcast from. Cam said he knew many Ackerman and NRA employees who were as reserved in their expense accounting as he was because they believed in the group's mission. He said they also understood that the bulk of the NRA's money came from regular members giving money that was often a not insignificant part of their family budgets. He argued the corruption that ran rampant at the NRA was unacceptable and things need to change. But he also said the NRA is one of the most important institutions in the gun-rights movement and needs to be saved. Plus, I talk about my time at SHOT Show with Contributing Writer Jake Fogleman and the effect of the Biden Administration's pause on gun exports. Special Guest: Cam Edwards.

I have never said it in public before but a dysfunctional NRA was far stronger and powerful than the current functional NRA. It is sad to watch the organization I love, tip toe around issues and avoid the spotlight. When I was with NRA TV we, the NRA, were constantly fighting. The members embraced the fight, the fought with us. Now the NRA seems to be quietly drifting into oblivion. I used to say the NRA is the most powerful civil rights organization on the face of the planet. But lawyers, and board running scared, have taken over. With the New York Trial against NRA leader Wayne Lapierre just a few days away, now is the time to come out swinging. Get back to the basics. This episode is a road map of how to do it. The NRA is too big and too important to fail. Midasgoldgroup.com Patriotmobile.com/GrantPromo code Grant Defender-gear.com/grantPromo code Grant15 Mypillow.com/grantPromo code Grant The Apple subscribe link is here:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/stinchfield/id1648560956 The Spotify subscribe link is here:https://open.spotify.com/show/7y6jgJ3af2ymyDQ79Nk0yv Stinchfield websitehttps://grantstinchfield.com/ Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/stinchfield1776/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Riding Shotgun With Charlie #188 Laura Carno FASTER Colorado   It seems like I've known Laura Carno since I started this journey. In 2019 at GRPC, she asked me and Derek Leblanc (RSWC #033) why we called each other “brother” and we weren't calling her “sister”. Since then, she has been our “sister from a different mister”.  This year, I was going to Colorado for some personal stuff, and I was able to reach out to Laura to talk about FASTER Colorado.  FASTER, as it is known, is Faculty & Administrator Safety Training and Emergency Response.   Laura grew up in California with a very pro police and pro military family, but they weren't necessarily a “gun family”. As a young woman in her early 20's she was followed out of a gym by a big guy and her “spidey senses” went off. The only thing she had was a metal pipe for self defense. That was what opened her eyes and realized she may need to be able to protect herself.    Before FASTER, Laura was involved with some local politics and she wrote a book called Government Ruins Nearly Everything which you can, and should, buy on Amazon. The book is a great read, and I do suggest it for everyone! It isn't expensive and it is eye opening!   When she started paying attention to politics, her California friends said the Republicans weren't really doing much, particularly for gun rights, so maybe she should become a “small L libertarian”. In 2008, she realized that Mr Obama wasn't going to do anything good for guns and gun owners.  She kept saying “yes” to new opportunities and she found herself doing new things she never dreamt of doing. By 2013, when Michael Bloomberg came to Colorado for a voting recall, she was running an ad that said “If guns are for you, don't own one. But don't you dare tell me how to defend myself.”  That led to a connection to NRA TV and Cam Edwards (RSWC #168). Eventually, Laura was friends with folks from the Buckeye Firearms Association and school security came up.    Laura went to Ohio to see what this FASTER program was about. She saw that the people taking the class were willing to die for their students. So why shouldn't they have the necessary tools to save the same students. She put in lots of calls and contacts to county sheriffs to let them know about FASTER and see if they were interested in having this in their rural areas. They've got law enforcement and military who train the school staff. Currently they have graduates in 37 school districts and have over 300 people trained to save school children.    One of the events that has opened the eyes of the public was the shooting in Uvalde, TX. People have started to realize that the police are not going to be there to stop school shootings in progress. But the biggest one so far was the Covenant Christian School shooting in Nashville. The police were there in 12 minutes and started taking care of business when they got there. One of the things that also changed is how fast the body-cam and school camera videos were released. These videos made people realize that if the school office was able to return fire and stop the murderer at the school entrance, it would have ended differently.    When talking about things they've learned during the last 8 years, not knowing who would be the teachers/staff willing to step up and take the FASTER courses has shown them some of the least likely people are the willing ones. They're the quiet professionals willing to do what's necessary to save their students' lives.    We talk a lot about the program and the different levels that they do training on. They're up to Level 4 in Colorado. Each of the levels do get more challenging. It's not just shooting, then shooting and moving. It's very realistic to what you're seeing on the body-cam videos.    Please check out the whole conversation with Laura. There's a mountain of work that they're doing. And that we need all over the rest of the country. There's also more interviews with FASTER Saves Lives staff coming up! So stay tuned!   Favorite quotes:  “I know how to take care of myself in other realms of my life, but how do I protect myself.” “I kept saying ‘yes' to things I could have never predicted for myself.” “There are certain attacks that happen that there is no other defense than another firearm.” “Nothing bad has happened in these schools where there's armed employees.” FASTER Colorado Website https://fastercolorado.org/   FASTER Colorado Facebook https://www.facebook.com/FasterColorado/   FASTER Colorado Twitter https://twitter.com/FASTERColorado   FASTER Saves Lives Website https://fastersaveslives.org/ Second Amendment Foundation https://secure.anedot.com/saf/donate?sc=RidingShotgun    Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms https://www.ccrkba.org/     Please support the Riding Shotgun With Charlie sponsors and supporters.    Buy RSWC & GunGram shirts & hoodies, stickers & patches, and mugs at the store! http://ridingshotgunwithcharlie.com/rswc-shop/   Dennis McCurdy Author, Speaker, Firewalker http://www.find-away.com/   Self Defense Radio Network http://sdrn.us/   Buy a Powertac Flashlight, use RSWC as the discount code and save 15% www.powertac.com/RSWC   SABRE Red Pepper Spray  https://lddy.no/1iq1n    

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Our guest today is Victoria Snitsar Churchill. Victoria is a writer and editor at American Liberty News and The Republican Standard, where she produces prolific coverage on news of the day, with expert analysis on political developments and gun rights. Victoria has been featured on many media outlets, including The Washington Examiner, Forbes, CBS News, TIME Magazine, The Blaze, and NRATV. A proud immigrant and naturalized U.S. citizen, Victoria has held roles in numerous conservative grassroots efforts, and is active to this day in Republican groups at all levels, serving as the Chairman of the Arlington Falls Church Young Republicans and the Virginia Committeewoman on the Young Republican National Committee. 1) How did a nice girl like you immigrate to the US and find herself writing about the Second Amendment? 2) Talk to us about 2A rights for younger Americans. Many say that once my generation ages out that the anti-gun folks will have no opposition left. From your experience is that true? 3) You live in VA, but you have written several articles on one of AZ's Senate Candidates, Mark Lamb. How are you seeing the upcoming elections in AZ and VA shaping up? 4) What does the future hold for Conservative Journalism in general, and specifically for your work in the field?

Talk radio legend Cameron Gray suddenly and unexpectedly passed away this past weekend.  Folks knew him from his work as a G. Gordon Liddy producer, from his appearances on the Don and Mike Show, and then, later from his work with Cam Edwards and John Popp on "Cam & Company" for NRA TV and SiriusXM Patriot 125.He was a good friend to AJSTW host, Andrew Langer, and here, Andrew offers a tribute to Cameron as the introduction to the reissue of an episode from the old LangerCast, in which Cameron sat in with Andrew and Jerry.  The title of the show is "Everyone Hates Langer" because Cameron posed the question as to WHY people hate Andrew... as he discovered in a conversation with someone all three men knew.

Riding Shotgun With Charlie #168 Cam Edwards Bearing Arms Cam & Co   Cam Edwards. What else can I say? I had Cam in the shotgun seat!    I've been listening to Cam Edwards since, forever.  Ok since he was on NRATV's Cam & Co. I've had chances to meet with him several times over the years; at the New Jersey Safe Conference in 2017, at Rally For Your Rights in 2019 in DC, and I've seen him at several SHOT Shows and NRA Annual meetings. But when I say that, I mean I saw him in the media room working and didn't want to bother him. He was working, I was “working it.”   Before we get into this, I need to say "thank you" to John Petrolino, The Pen Patriot, who is a contributor at Bearing Arms as well as AmmoLand News, for connecting me with Edwards, suggesting I  have him on the show. I was heading down to Virgina to teach a class and film another RSWC episode, and I saw that Farmville, VA, was between the towns I was traveling to.   Edwards was born in Massachusetts and after a couple of moves ended up in Oklahoma. He went to school for journalism in Oklahoma City, but ended up in Arkansas doing some TV and radio work. He started off pushing the play button on VHS players for shows like Sally Jessy Rapheal and Jerry Springer. The station owners realized that Edwards had more talent and they offered him a position running 3rd string cameras for a Sunday morning church show, because no one else wanted to work on Sunday mornings. As much as he enjoyed it, he wanted to get on to the news side of things. He eventually moved back to Oklahoma City and transitioned into radio doing some investigative reporting. With an open timeslot at the station, he took a non-paid radio hour to do some talk radio.    In 2004, Edwards was doing "Morning Drive "and was approached by Angus McQueen. McQueen is half of Ackerman McQueen, which was the advertising company that had strong ties to the NRA. Angus offered Edwards a job in the DC Metro area being the voice and face of the NRA News. What is interesting to me is that McQueen gave Edwards and his team autonomy to tell stories for the NRA members. They wanted "editorial separation." It wasn't going to be that the NRA told him what he needed to do or give him the talking points.   Edwards shared some stories about some of his favorite and least favorite guests that he's had on Cam & Co when they were on NRA News.  Back in the early NRA News days, he was doing radio from 9pm-12am eastern. He didn't name names, but his least favorite guests were the ones who had been imbibing before they called in. His favorite people to have on his show are the ones that are out there and making a difference in the gun world.    Edwards could see that the end was near with NRA News and started getting gear to keep Cam & Co going. After the "divorce" between NRA and Ackerman McQueen, Edwards was unemployed for 9 days. He got a call from folks at Townhall Media and they asked if he wanted to be the editor of Bearing Arms. Edwards had to transition from speaking for a living to writing for a living. Edwards didn't want to give up working in the Second Amendment world. He's loving what he is doing and wants to continue at Bearing Arms.    One of the things that I'm most honored about for this show is that Edwards gave me an EXCLUSIVE that he hasn't talked about in public ever before. He talks about when he first touched a gun, not even shot one, TOUCHED one!  And I guarantee you'll have a hard time believing what he did!  Yes, You'll have to watch (or listen) to find out! Cam Edwards: RSWC Passenger Bucket List; Check!   Favorite quotes:  “What kept me passionate about Second Amendment issues all these years…it's our Right, but it's also the people.” “Do you want to be the hometown guy and have that hometown career, or do you want to see where you can go?” “I always felt like I had this unicorn of a job.” “My job was to educate and inform my audience about what was going on with their Right to keep and bear arms.” “I think one of the great things about the world of the Second Amendment is that we have so many incredible people to talk to.” Bearing Arms https://bearingarms.com/author/camedwards   Cam Edwards Facebook https://www.facebook.com/camedwards2a/   Bearing Arms Cam & Co YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@BearingArmsCamCo   Cam & Co Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bearing-arms-cam-co/id1476321458   Cam Edwards Rumble https://rumble.com/vda1rj-cam-edwards-update.html   Cam Edwards Twitter https://twitter.com/CamEdwards Second Amendment Foundation http://saf.org/   Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms https://www.ccrkba.org/     Please support the Riding Shotgun With Charlie sponsors and supporters.    Buy RSWC & GunGram shirts & hoodies, stickers & patches, and mugs at the store! http://ridingshotgunwithcharlie.com/rswc-shop/   Dennis McCurdy Author, Speaker, Firewalker http://www.find-away.com/   Self Defense Radio Network http://sdrn.us/  

Spouting Off with Karen Kataline and guests Dan Wos and Ryan Woods Guest #1: Dan Wos Dan Wos is a nationally recognized 2nd Amendment advocate and Author of the “GOOD GUN BAD GUY” series. He speaks at events, is a contributing writer for many publications, and can be found on radio stations across the country. Dan has been a guest on the Sean Hannity Show, NRATV, and several others. Speaking on behalf of gun-rights, Dan exposes the strategies of the anti-gun crowd and explains their mission to disarm law-abiding American gun-owners. Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/author/danwos/#ixzz7X2ARHe6U Under Creative Commons License: Attribution Follow us: @Ammoland on Twitter | Ammoland on Facebook. dan@danwos.com Guest #2: Ryan "Lady MAGA" Woods: Ryan Woods is a proud Eagle Scout, America-first Republican, Christian, and political activist. He's an award-winning journalist with a background in mass communication and video production. He's President of Log Cabin Republicans Utah and is working to save his state from a leftist takeover. He is a drag entertainer who says that gay conservatives are afraid to speak out publicly about their love of country to defy the radical LGBTQIA+ movement which pushes a dangerous agenda such as hormone injections for children, “drag kids,” sexually explicit “Pride Parades” and overt persecution of traditional families and religious Conservatives. He says his artistry is meant to be fun, uplifting, and inspiring—not vulgar or degrading, as is the case with most mainstream “Drag Queens.”

Spouting Off with Karen Kataline and guests Dan Wos and Ryan Woods Guest #1: Dan Wos Dan Wos is a nationally recognized 2nd Amendment advocate and Author of the “GOOD GUN BAD GUY” series. He speaks at events, is a contributing writer for many publications, and can be found on radio stations across the country. Dan has been a guest on the Sean Hannity Show, NRATV, and several others. Speaking on behalf of gun-rights, Dan exposes the strategies of the anti-gun crowd and explains their mission to disarm law-abiding American gun-owners. Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/author/danwos/#ixzz7X2ARHe6U Under Creative Commons License: Attribution Follow us: @Ammoland on Twitter | Ammoland on Facebook. dan@danwos.com Guest #2: Ryan "Lady MAGA" Woods: Ryan Woods is a proud Eagle Scout, America-first Republican, Christian, and political activist. He's an award-winning journalist with a background in mass communication and video production. He's President of Log Cabin Republicans Utah and is working to save his state from a leftist takeover. He is a drag entertainer who says that gay conservatives are afraid to speak out publicly about their love of country to defy the radical LGBTQIA+ movement which pushes a dangerous agenda such as hormone injections for children, “drag kids,” sexually explicit “Pride Parades” and overt persecution of traditional families and religious Conservatives. He says his artistry is meant to be fun, uplifting, and inspiring—not vulgar or degrading, as is the case with most mainstream “Drag Queens.”

Our guest today is Dan Wos. Dan is a nationally recognized 2nd Amendment advocate and Author of the "Good Gun Bad Guy” - book series. He is a contributing writer for AmmoLand News, Daily Caller, Truth About Guns and several other publications. Dan can be found on radio stations across the Country speaking on behalf of gun-rights and exposing the strategies of the anti-gun crowd. Dan is also the Host of "The Loaded Mic" and has been a guest on the Sean Hannity Show, Armed American Radio, NRATV and many others. 1) You are a busy and talented guy! Tell us about your new gig with AmmoLand News doing their 2nd Amendment Updates! 2) One of the stories you covered is the failure of FL - “The Freedom State” according to Governor Desantis – to pass Constitutional Carry...yet AGAIN! What is the hold up? 3) You are the author of three books in the “Good Gun, Bad Guy” series. Tell us about your inspiration to write these and are there any more in the works?

Parker Molloy: So you've been writing this awesome newsletter over on Substack, called The Sword and the Sandwich. Can you tell me a little bit about that?Tal Lavin: Yeah, so I launched, actually, this month, October 4th, and it's a really odd... It is an odd mix. Like, I recognize it's an odd mix. The sword is first of all, because I own a bunch of swords, and love them, but also, it sort of symbolizes like I'm writing about the American right and far-right, and then the sandwiches are very literal. Like, for a really long time, I have been obsessed with Wikipedia's list of notable sandwiches, which has hundreds of sandwiches on it, from all over the world, and I have wanted to address this in some systematic way. I love projects that have structure that I can f**k around within, like a sonnet.So the premise is I'm going through every sandwich on that list. It's very arbitrary, you know? Obviously a Wikipedia thing, so it's... But I'm treating it almost like a sacred text, and then going through it and writing essays, or interviews, or recipes, or stories about each sandwich. We've covered the American hero, the bacon sandwich, and bacon, egg, and cheese, and now this week, we're on to bagels, which is exciting for me, so yeah, this week's content is harrowing tales of child abuse and bagels.That's just such an interesting combo. And just to be... Like, those are separate posts. They're not-Oh, yeah, it's not-They're not one in the same.Yeah, so it's like Monday is the s**t that will horrify you, and then Friday, we're riding into the weekend--is the stuff about the American right.No, Friday is the-Horrifying bagels.No, I really aim not to traumatize anyone with my sandwich posts. These are nonviolent sandwiches. It's like I need the break, psychically. Maybe readers do too. Sometimes, it's really hard to shift moods, when... Like, the current series is about corporal punishment in evangelical households, and the sort of ways it impacts people as adults. So it's really hard for me sometimes, to switch modes. I almost resent it. I'm like, "Ugh, now I have to write about bagels," but then I spend an hour researching and writing about bagels, and I feel better, and then dive back into hell.Yeah. Well, as you mentioned, you published the first of a three-part series on corporal punishment, evangelicals, and the "doctrine of obedience," as you write in the piece. I found it fascinating because I honestly didn't... I've never really thought about the history involved in all of that. I'm used to people on Twitter being like, "I don't think it's wrong to hit kids. I got hit, and I'm fine," and then you look at them, and you're like... They're not fine.No. Yeah.No, it's like, "Oh, you think you're fine. But are any of us, really?"I'm not.I'm definitely not.I'm so not fine, and I wasn't raised evangelical. I'm a Jew, and I'm a childless Jew even, so it's not... I can keep some distance from the material. Well, obviously so many people shared their pain with me for this series, lots of different facets of their pain, their stories, how they're coming to terms with it, how they're healing, and to me, not to be melodramatic, but it felt like, "Oh, this is why I became a journalist," and like, I have to hold this pain gently, and treat it well, and treat it as the sacred trust it is. I mean, I don't believe in any god, but whatever. Sometimes I think of things as holy or sacred, as just a stronger word for like really important. Feels necessary.I've been astounded at the response. I mean, I tried to... I have a tic about historical research. Like, almost every piece I've ever written has some element of history in it. I also dove a ton into primary sources for this piece, which in this case was Christian parenting guides, of which I read big swaths or the entirety of like three or four books, and then tons of people's testimony about how these doctrines affected them.And then, I looked at what's the historical context? Like, why did all these books start getting written in the '70s and updated in the '90s? I mean, corporal punishment obviously has been around forever, but like, corporal punishment as sort of a political necessity and as a theological doctrine really arose as like... and the evidence is pretty clear, in the books themselves, and also in like the historical record, that they arose as basically a backlash, both to the work of Dr. Spock, who wrote Baby and Child Care, and he was super popular, and everyone loved him, and he was also an antiwar activist in his later years, and got arrested protesting Vietnam. And he said don't hit your kids, right?It's hard to overstate how much these authors hate Dr. Spock. Like, they hate him. They think he sucks, and he's the reason everything's wrong, but anyway, you have this Dr. Spock influence telling you not to hit your kids, and then essentially what these books posit, or what they feel they're reacting to is like, a lot of the movements in the '60s were student-led. The antiwar movement, the gay rights movement was a youth-led thing in many cases, or perceived as a youth-led movement, the feminist movement was really led by young women, and the sort of curative, the corrective force is writing these books.James Dobson, of Focus on the Family fame, his first book was called Dare to Discipline, like he's like, "We're fighting against this godless heathens that tell us not to hit our kids." So basically, they're saying chaos and social disorder starts in the home, and you have to hit your kids to get them in line.I cannot wait to read the second and third piece of this, because the first one is great. It really starts to get into Dobson, and The Pearls, and all of that stuff, and the responses have been heartbreaking, that I've seen from people, where they are talking about how it affected them on a personal level, and on one hand, it's amazing that the story has resonated with that many people, and that that's clearly captured what they're feeling and what they're going through, and I mean, that's just you being a great writer, and interviewer, and researcher. I mean, beyond that, it's just so profoundly sad that there are so many people in this world who have been hurt in that sort of way. They haven't felt able to express these ideas themselves, for fear of backlash or for fear of coming off as weak. That was another thing that I saw in some of the replies here, but-Or because they were taught that it was holy, that it was ordained by God, and a lot of the people, the people who spoke to me, have left evangelicalism. There's a process, it's like a very common term, and sort of ex-evangelicals. Basically, it's just calling it deconstruction, sort of tearing down the doctrines you were raised up with and figuring out a new way forward, and I really applaud people who are doing that work. It's very difficult. It's very painful.My Substack's really new. Like, I have 3,000 subscribers. It's small. The post, as of now, it's been out for less than two days, and it's gotten 50,000 views almost. I think to me, that's just an indicator of how it resonates, how people... I mean, first of all, I think there are a lot of outsiders who are sort of horrified, and then there are a lot of people who are like, "This was my childhood. I've never heard it discussed this way. I've never connected these dots." And the heartbreaking thing is like people are so grateful, grateful, that someone cares, anyone, about what happened to them. Generations of kids, generations. Like, the people who talked to me ranged from 22 to 65. It's very much a live issue, and it's still happening, although spanking is, thankfully...I hate the term spanking, actually, because spanking, I think has a lovely place in kink, but when you're talking about it in child-rearing, you are talking about hitting kids, so I've actually sort of very consciously, in my public speech about this stuff, stopped using that term, because it feels like a euphemism to me. You're talking about hitting children with the intent of causing pain.That's exactly it. I made the mistake of not writing down any questions, because I was like, "I know you. We're going to just-"We're just going to vibe about-Yeah, and it's like, "Oh, man. This is so dark and hard," you know? But that's what I love about your writing. You wrote this amazing book, Culture Warlords.And yeah, it was about basically me f*****g immersing myself in online Nazi life for like 18 months, and it was hard. It was a hard thing to do, as a Jew, as a person, who doesn't like seeing clips of murders on my phone all the time, presented as just and right. But I guess yeah, my beat is like looking into darkness and coming back out with a report.It feels weird to be like, "You're so good at this," you know? This thing that involves hate, and darkness, and pain, but your book was my favorite book of last year, and it's one of those books that I recommend to anyone who's at all curious about what's happening in the world, because I don't think you could talk about any current event without talking about how so much of our lives is affected by the far right, and white supremacist groups, and antisemitic people, and it's really kind of scary how much all of that overlaps, you know? You have the white supremacist groups.They tend to overlap in their beliefs with a lot of the evangelical groups, which tend to overlap with a lot of the anti-LGBTQ groups, these sorts of things where there's a very powerful and strong coalition of people that, I don't know, they just make the world a worse place by what they do and what they say, not by existing. I mean, I'm all for people existing. I want to make that clear, but I think that their actions and what they do just makes things so much harder. Is there anything in going into writing that, or in just your work generally, that surprised you? Were there any ideas that you had, that you had to challenge and rethink along the process?Well, so one of the big... How do I put this? Okay. I will answer your question after, but this is something that... Culture Warlords was my first book. I had never written one before, and it has some first book syndrome, which is like I put too much of myself in it, you know? Where it at points bordered on the memoiristic in ways that I now look back on with a little bit of regret, just in the sense that it feels a bit self-indulgent sometimes, like we didn't need a chapter on my childhood.The other major regret I have is not including... I did address transphobia in these contexts. I didn't address it as much as it deserved. Like, it should have had its own chapter, and I'm working on a second book right now, called Lone Wolves Run in Packs, which is about sort of debunking the sort of Lone Wolf theorem that people radicalize in isolation, that sort of white supremacist terror arises because individuals make choices. It's much more about the communities that these kinds of extremism arise from.And I know transphobia is going to be at the center of a lot of what I write, because it is, at the moment, as Judith Butler very eloquently articulated recently in The Guardian, at the forefront and center of all of these rising fascist movements. And I mean, it is all interconnected. Like, that's what makes it sort of endlessly fascinating and sometimes a bit overwhelming, is like you don't know when to stop researching.For example, part two of this series is about basically how child corporal punishment affects romantic relationships in the future. Essentially, it's like if you grow up in an environment where you're told... where you accept pain as your due, and specifically in an environment where God is invoked constantly, your sinful nature is evoked constantly, and one of the more terrifying aspects of this whole Christian corporal punishment thing is like, there's a very strong recommendation in all of these parenting books. It's like, "After your kid gets spanked, first of all, if they cry too much from spanking, they're trying to manipulate you, so spank them again. And then also, like hold them, and tell them you love them, and explain, like whisper to them gently about obedience."It's creepy as f**k, to me, but it also is like, this is trauma bonding. Trauma bonding is a concept in psychology. It's a big way of how abusive relationships work, where basically, you're traumatized by someone. They hit you, they belittle you, whatever, and then they make up with you afterwards, and hold you, and comfort you from the trauma that they inflicted. So, these parental doctrines are essentially... And they're not unique to evangelicalism. I think the unique part here is that sort of theologically mandates in some circles and some biblical interpretations, but like it is pretty common, and the people that I see, who are defending hitting kids in my mentions, are like, "My parents always apologized after, and told me they loved me, and I turned out great," and like, "Did you? Because you're defending hitting kids to me. Like, you're pro-child assault, so I don't know how fine you turned out."But at any rate, at any rate, basically my A thesis of the second part, and this absolutely bears out in the 150 people that talked to me, many of them, and most of the people who responded to my questionnaire, which is a smaller subset, said like, "I was primed for abusive relationships. Like, I was primed. I knew how to pretend. I knew how to conceal my emotions. I was taught that I was worthless. I was taught that I deserve violence, and I could expect it from the people that loved me. Like, that was the lesson of my childhood, and of course, it went on to affect what I accepted as proper treatment in romantic contexts." And there's tons of other s**t. I mean, sorry. I'm babbling at this point, but it's like...You know, now I'm like reading a whole new set of primary sources, with Christian homeschooling materials, and these doctrines about patriarchy and submission, and like specifically it affects girls very strongly. Men are also affected, boys and men are also affected for sure, in slightly different ways. And I mean, of course it's all connected, right? If the people that I talked to did some really brave work in moving away from the ways they were raised with this kind of brutality, many people don't do that work, for many reasons, and go on to reproduce it in their lives.Like, it's really, really hard to say, like, "My parents, who loved me and who I love, hurt me, and did wrong," or like, "I hit my kids, and I was wrong to do that." It's like really, really, really hard, to make those moral distinctions, to assess your past and present critically, and a lot of people are neither inclined nor able to do that. And with all the empathy and respect that I can muster, I think one of the roots of authoritarianism in our country, and especially among the Christian right, is...And this is a nascent understanding. It's not backed with science. It's more just like what I've been researching lately. I think there is a current of tremendous violence that undergirds this culture. It's like, because hierarchies of sex, of gender, of spouses and children as property, you know, are at the core of this doctrine, and enforced by often brutal, often daily physical violence. So it's a self-reproducing ideology in that sense.Right. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, that's a great point. You know, one other thing I wanted to kind of touch on here, not to change gears too sharply, but one thing that I think that both... Because we both worked at Media Matters for a little bit, and one of the things there is just sort of examining the right-wing media ecosystem, which exists on big and small scales. You have Fox News, which is large, but you also have weird little networks of right-wing bloggers, that coordinate very closely, and that's not something you see on the left as much, or at all. That's why there's this ability of people on the right to really get people who oppose them to be quiet, to shut up, to go away, to not bother them because it becomes not worth it.And I know that there have been times where I've seen something, and I'm like, "I want to write about this," and then I have to think, is it worth it? And when you wrote your book, that was after you had already not only been targeted by randos online, but you had ICE giving you s**t. You had DHS upset, because you tweeted about an ICE agent's tattoo, which you were not the first person to tweet that, and you were really one of the few people who actually said, "Oh no, I mistook that tattoo. I am sorry. My mistake."But it was clear that there was this idea that you were influential in a certain sense, and they wanted to just make your life kind of hell. What was that like, and how does that affect what you write about and how you write about it? I mean, in the sense that there has to be sort of this fear that every time you go into writing these stories that you're going to get targeted. And I know that it can take a major toll on you, and I think that... I don't know. Just any time I see something like that happen, it just breaks my heart, because you do such great work, and yet you've had the federal government giving you a hard time, and trying to push you out of your job.Yeah. I mean, it sucked. That was back in 2018. But it recurs daily, in this very warped way. I got Ken Klippenstein in The Nation, to kind of tell my story through... We sued ICE under FOIA to be like, "What do you actually have?" And they didn't have my tweet, because I had deleted my f*****g tweet, which by the way, didn't say, "This guy's a Nazi." It was just a picture of the tattoo that ICE had tweeted out, without the guy's name, and it looked like an Iron Cross, and then like a picture of an Iron Cross. It was sort of like a question mark. Whatever. It was a late-night thing. I'd seen it tossed around in different circles already online.And I deleted it after 15 minutes. I was like, "I made a mistake," you know? People pointed out it might be a Maltese Cross. And the next morning, ICE issued a press release, blaming me. We FOIA'd their emails, and they were like, "Ah, we don't have her original tweet." No one had it. Like, given all the people that picked over every aspect of my life, you think someone would have screenshotted that original tweet if it truly virally influenced a trend. It didn't. It straight up didn't. That's not factual. But at the time, I mean, I was very young. I mean, not very young. I was younger, and naïve.You're like, "It was three years ago."I've aged 40 million years in the interim because that was my first... I had written a bit about the right. I'd started writing about it. I wrote my first piece about the far right in 2017, so I was pretty new in that realm. I'd had a couple of Daily Stormer pieces about me or whatever, but... It sucks, it hurts, it's weird, but when you are public, you kind of expect it. I was public on a much smaller scale than I am now, and I was employed. I was a fact-checker at The New Yorker.Oh, god. It was just like we were getting so much... The fact-checking department was getting hate mail, and at the time, right? I was very earnest. I loved my job. I loved my coworkers. It's still the best job I've ever had, probably ever will, because it was fascinating. I was learning something new every week. Like, I got to do research all the time, and it was great. Great. I called fascinating people constantly. But like, I really was like, this is... I was very like, this is impacting poorly on the company. This is impacting poorly on my peers. Like, I must sacrifice myself, because I just don't belong here anymore.And of course, like I was getting so much hate mail, and segments on Fox about it, because ICE painted a giant target on my back over a lie, because I was a convenient target. I mean, it's like The New Yorker. She's a Harvard graduate. She's Jewish. She's fat. She's the media. Whatever. Like, I was a very convenient culture war proxy. It was also at a time of very intense outrage at the whole babies in cages thing, so it's like let's throw some meat to the lions or whatever, and the meat was me.I mean, so it's like, I was so naïve, and so traumatized frankly, that I was... It was an awful week. Like, I self-harmed for the first time in ages. Like, you know? And it still comes up constantly. Any time I say anything, someone will be like, "Didn't you accuse a veteran of being a Nazi?" I'm like, "No, I didn't." Anyway. But like then you sound all tinfoily, when you're like, "The government was lying." Like, it's hard to... And I was stupid. I was stupid to resign, and thus cement a narrative that I'd done something wrong. I have so many regrets about how I handled all that s**t, like now, now that I've been through the fire a bunch more times.I will say, though, it severed me from traditional journalism, at least staffed traditional journalism. Like, I've written in a lot of publications, from The New Republic, to Vice, and whatever. I've had freelance bylines all over, but I've basically, besides a brief stint at Media Matters, which I got laid off for pay, for like money reasons, like they were trimming down their extremism department, which seems like a weird decision in retrospect.Yeah.Like, I haven't had a staff job since, and now I'm Substacking. I appreciate the stability of Substack. I also am like, obviously there's TERF ambivalence. Like, the first Substack experience I had was like Glenn Greenwald being like, "How dare you tweet," you know? And saying like I think Substack shouldn't have these outspoken TERFs on it anymore. Which f**k Glenn Greenwald. He's just like a troll all the time. I call him “Glerb” in my head.Glerb.Anyway. Whatever. It's not so interesting. I've written about... One piece that kind of goes into my reflections, and what I'd learned from that whole shitty, depressing incident, and its various ripple effects, like Laura Ingraham calling me a terrorist and stuff. I had a conversation with Lyz Lenz, who writes the Men Yell at Me newsletter, where we talked about kind of what it feels like to get these kinds of mobbings. They are absolutely techniques to silence. They are very frequently employed by the right, because the right has a much stronger villain of the day kind of methodology. That's what they do. That's like... We've studied right wing ecologies of information, and like, essentially it's like, yeah, a villain of the day can go through so many iterations, from all of these ideologically completely uniform, like punitively distinct media brands. It's a little like the five minutes of hate thing from 1984, and when you're the subject of it, it's very... And I've talked to a lot of women particularly, and transwomen, women through queer women, just women, basically, through... I'm sorry to make that... I didn't mean to make that as a distinction. It's just more like the different loci of vulnerability.We're good.It's like been almost exclusively women, through the process of like, "How do I get my information offline? How do I deal?" I have some practical tips, mostly just sign up for DeleteMe. It's a useful service. Anyone who's a journalist, frankly I think should be signed up for it, because you'll have... Chances are, you'll have your time in the hopper, especially if you are not a conservative white man. But like, a lot of it is emotional guidance. Like, the way I describe it sometimes is like having the roof ripped off your life. Like, you feel like you're just toddling along, a relatively insignificant figure, and suddenly, you're in a national spotlight as villain of the day. It's a f*****g traumatizing experience, really. I feel like this podcast is you asking reasonable questions, and then me like just rambling.No. I mean, it's all very fascinating, because it's hard to explain to people who haven't gone through anything like this, because on a smaller scale, I've gone through this. Like, there was one time, I was at home, and I was just sitting there, and Andy Ngo posted a thing that was... It was like a photo that showed his backpack, with white dots on it, and I said that it looked like a pigeon pooped on him. I thought that was just kind of funny, and I closed Twitter, and I took a nap. Then when I woke up, I had people who were like, "Wow, you were cheering for him to be poisoned with cement milkshakes and beaten to death," and I'm like, "What the f**k?"So then I delete my tweet, and I say, "I'm sorry. I didn't mean for it to be taken that way," et cetera, et cetera, and one thing I've learned is if you publicly acknowledge something and if you publicly apologize for it, they go, "Ha, we've got you." And that happened with... I remember there was one time, there was a trump rally, where David Weigel at The Washington Post tweeted out a photo that showed the rally kind of half empty, but he took it from a weird angle. It was an accident. He accidentally showed the rally looking small, and Trump himself, who at the time was the president of the United States, tweeted out a demand for an apology, so Dave responds by saying like, "Yeah, sure. I'm sorry. That was a mistake. Here. Here are some other photos from the event. We're good, right?"And then the response to that was Trump then said, "You should be fired," you know? It's this whole thing where if you ever acknowledge that maybe you got something wrong, that is what they just cling onto and create their narrative around.Yeah, I mean-That's why it's so frustrating.... it's “don't show the whites of your eyes” kind of vibe.Yeah.Oh, Andy Ngo is such a putrid f**k. I really hate him. I called him a... I think I called him a fascism-adjacent dipshit in my book, like down on paper. I wish it was in the index as like, "Ngo Andy, fascism-adjacent dipshittery of,"See also.Like, yeah. Right? He sucks, and he's so deeply transphobic and racist. Like, all of his... It's interesting. Like, he's a very big purveyor of the five minutes of hate format, and he always highlights gender-nonconforming protestors. He highlights black protestors. It's very calculated. It is very... obviously comes from very deep-seated bigotry on his part, and to me, that is just factual. It's the way he works, and he knows who his audience is, and he is who he is. We met once, because I was covering this conference. It was like him and-Oh, I remember that.It was in the book, yeah. It was like him and Tim Pool, like organized this conference to prove how tolerant they were, and I wound up being chased out.Yep.Which to me was pretty... And then they were like, "You were chased out? You just walked away, while being followed by people." And like, okay.Well, and also you were live-tweeting it at the time, so it was very clear what was happening, you know? It's like anyone who was reading your tweets saw that you were... they were... There were people there who were treating you horribly, and then you-Well, Ngo said I look like a pigeon, and that I'd waddled away, which like, pigeons are very noble birds. They can eat garbage without any adverse effects, and they successfully hide their young offspring such as I've never seen a baby pigeon. So, I admire the pigeon as an urban bird, and I don't find it offensive. And you know what? But whether I waddled, or sauntered, or whatever, people were screaming at me, and I would describe that as being chased... It's so surreal. You wind up in... I think I opened the chapter on that rally by just being like, "I'm sitting at home, arguing about whether I was chased or not." Like, you wind up in these obscene, stupid semantic scenarios, and they were like, "We're going to get security footage from the casino." It was held at a casino, "Like to prove that you weren't chased." And they never produced the security footage. They found like one security chief guy who was like, "No one was chased, probably." Because of course he would say that, right?Yeah. They're not going to be like, "Yeah, someone was chased, and we just kind of sat back and were like, huh."Like, "Yeah, people routinely get ideologically run out of our casino." Like, you know? And they're so enamored of gotchas. They also love choosing the most unflattering pictures of me online. I think also when you're a woman, and like, so they inherently see you in this sexualized way, the sheer amount of fucked up s**t that's happened with my photos... Someone posed as me on 4chan, and it was like, "I'm Talia Lavin, a journalist, and here's a bikini photo of me to prove it," and three separate times. I had posted one bikini photo in the history of time on the internet, and like, it's just weird s**t, like saying, "You look like a neanderthal," or weird Photoshops. You know what I'm talking about.Oh, absolutely.Like, it's very sexualized, and it's also this mix of like, "You're disgusting, and I'm going to sexually demean you, and..." Like, I will say, that's one of the things that I know has left some residual psychic s**t. Like, I've had periods of my life where I look in the mirror, and I'm like, "Am I the monster they think I am?" You know? And it really depends. It's like, if I'm having a good day, mentally, it all just slides off my back. If I'm having a bad day, it can sink in. And this, "Don't feed the trolls" s**t, like they're not going to go away.No.If you feed them or not.Yeah.Like, you know? It's not... You can't blame people who are targeted for how they react.Right. Yeah, and that's the thing. It's like, I still don't know what the right way to respond to-There isn't like-... harassment is, because there's not, yeah. It's just a bad situation, and it's... I mean, that's part of the reason... I don't know. I felt there came a time where I couldn't just mentally commit to having a full-time job, if that makes sense. I mean, I kind of got to this point where my mental health had just deteriorated from a lot of the same stuff that you were just kind of talking about, where-Also Media Matters specifically is like, look at horrifying and traumatic s**t all f*****g day.Yeah. It's like, I love the-Write it up in these little bulletins that no one reads. Like, I mean, it's great, and they do great work, but like-Great work, but-... it is a tough organization to work in.Yeah. I mean, and I feel like it's only gotten harder over the years, because it used to be like, "Hey, look, Bill O'Reilly said something that wasn't true." And now it's like, "Oh, Tucker Carlson invited the grand wizard of the KKK to..." You know, and you're just like, "How did we get here?" And especially the people there who have to do so much of the research on 4chan and all the online stuff. That is-Well, I mean, that was my job.Yeah, that was you.Every time I talked to... Every time someone would say to me like, "Oh wow, I can't believe that you have to do..." I'm like, "At least I don't have to watch NRATV every day. I don't have to go through 4chan." I mean, people would point out to me whenever something I tweeted would end up being screen-capped and posted to 4chan, which was sometimes helpful, and sometimes I was like, "I don't need to know this," you know? And it's just-It's like, "Just FYI, they're posting pictures of you on 4chan."It's like, "Oh, cool, cool, cool." But yeah, I mean, it's tough, and it takes a toll on you that I don't... I don't know. And it's hard to just go, "Well, it's only a few people. It's only 10 people or 100 people out of millions out there," you know? Or something like that. But I mean, if 100 people are tweeting about you nonstop, or messaging you, or trying to start a harassment campaign, it feels like it's the whole world. It really does, and it eats away at... It was eating away at my ability to stay focused on work, and doing what I wanted to do, so I mean, that is personally why I was like...You know, it's like I had a lot of reservations when it came to making a jump to trying to do a newsletter, and especially with Substack, but ultimately, I was like, I think this is the better option for me personally, because it provided a certain level of stability, a certain level of just me being able to write a bunch of things in advance, and if for two days, I can't work or can't function, essentially, then I'm okay, you know? That's kind of one of the plus-sides there.Yeah, I mean, freelancing is super “publish or perish.” It's like, if I don't write, I don't get paid, and sometimes it's hard. I mean, yeah. I mean, that resonates so much, and I think like, I mean, people have asked me, or concerned family members have been like, "Why don't you write a cookbook? Like, why don't you do something different?" I'm like, "Yeah, no I will." Like, my third book is definitely going to be like a food-focused memoir. That's the plan. But I have... And when I'm talking about my current work, I'm...Oh. Oh, now I remember what I was going to say, about why it feels so powerful when even a relatively small number of people are coming after you. My therapist, not to be like, "My therapist," but my therapist, who I started seeing just before the whole ICE thing, and he's lovely, and we've been in this therapeutic relationship for years, he's like, "It's evolutionary." There's a reason why we selectively remember bad things, selectively prize, or sort of focus and obsess on bad voices about us. It's because there is an evolutionary mandate to be aware of criticism, so you don't get kicked out of the tribe and lose your security and your food. Like, there is an evolutionary mandate to keep an eye on criticism, and it's a self-preservation mechanic in its way.It only becomes maladaptive in this completely unprecedented context, of like within a minute, a million people can see your stupid thing. Like, Twitter I think in particular, is very the sort of, "I'm talking to my sphere, and then suddenly it gets catapulted into a much larger one." Like, that's a unique feature of the platform. It's part of what makes it fun, is being able to see voices that you never would have heard, and people from all over the world, and all that stuff, but it can entail this relatively traumatic leap from like, "I'm just talking to my buddies," to like, "Now everyone's criticizing me for something," and sometimes, it's from people who are leftier than me, and sometimes that can be more painful, because I'm like, "I probably agree with you. I just wish you weren't being such a dick about it."Yeah.Or, "Am I wrong? Should I retire and become a Benedictine monk?" And then it's from the right, and to be honest, that's less painful for me most of the time, because I'm just like, "Ah, I'm used to genocidal f*****s being horrible, because I'm anti-genocide."Whoa, bold position, anti-genocide.I mean, like I don't... Yeah, and like, I... Ugh, whatever. So, context collapse is a major thing, but also, there is an evolutionary... Not that I'm so into evolutionary biology, because I think it's a lot of b******t sometimes, but there is a survival value in looking at critique. It's just the level, and ubiquity, and immediacy of that critique. Like, these are not your tribe. They're not going to imperil your food, but you're still wired to be like... You know?Yeah.To keep it in mind, because they also might kill you, or whatever.Yeah. I mean, it is good to... There is that line, of is it good to be aware of criticism or not? There are obviously things, you know, threats to your life, and those are important to know, and to be aware of, because you don't want to be harmed by someone, you know?Or your family.Yeah, or that is another one. I mean, I've had situations where it's been... I've gotten messages from people who were talking about my family, and where they live, and stuff like that. It's like, "What is wrong with you? Why would you do this? Because you disagree with something I wrote online? Because you disagree with me?" Those sorts of things, it's... A lot of it's-It's very... Yeah.Yeah, it's a product of this time of hyper-connectedness that we live in, you know? And the way we communicate, which is kind of... I mean, that's kind of the angle that I'm trying to think about a lot of things. I mean, that's kind of the premise of my newsletter, is just-The present age.Yeah, it's like here we are, and everything is insane, and I don't know what to do, you know? But we're trying to get through it. I mean, with the pandemic especially, so much of our communication has shifted to the internet, that might not have been before, but I mean, in my case, and maybe yours, it's like, yeah, it was already on the internet, but you know? It's like, I was already spending way too much time on social media before the pandemic, before it was cool.It's like, I'm a weird recluse.Yeah, exactly.Like, half my friends are online. Like, yeah.Yeah.I mean, I think it just helps me to reframe. I think a lot of people who are in this experience, especially in the first time or first several times, are like, you know, "Am I weak for feeling bad?" I'm like, "No." It's human nature, you know? You're not weak. Like, please don't beat yourself up about having feelings about people saying terrible things about you. Like, you know? That's part of my like Talia's pep talk for traumatized victims of the right-wing hate complex thing. You know, and there's also the like, "Am I wrong for seeking it out?" I'm like, you know, it can be a discipline thing, to try to not seek it out all the time. Well, yeah, it's also human nature. Forgive yourself for that, for wanting to know. That is also a very natural impulse.In my case, I mean, stuff does happen that I need to be aware of. You know, when literally the organizer of Unite the Right, Jason Kessler, posted my mom's office address on a Nazi blog. S**t like that, like I need to know. I need to warn, and I feel so f*****g guilty that my family has to suffer for my choice to traumatize myself every day. I mean, it is interesting. I do feel like the evangelical series that I'm working on now is like... is interconnected with a lot of this stuff, in ways that are maybe less explicit, maybe less overt, but I think it is interconnected. I also think these are just stories of pain that deserve honor and telling, and careful telling.But I do think it's interconnected. I also think like, you know? In my experience, if you deep dive and learn a lot about one thing, you see the way it shows up in lots of other places. I've rarely regretted learning a lot about a subject in my time. Like, could I be focusing on the Charlottesville trial? Could I be focusing on militias? Could I be focusing on what are the Oath Keepers up to lately? Like, could I be focusing on the antivax white nationalist nexus? Of course. There's so many topics. There's like-Yeah, there's no shortage.Yeah, I had to explain to someone, when I'm talking about like I study the far right, there's a massive range of topics, covering tens of millions of people. It's not like, "How could you have such a narrow beat?" It's not narrow.No.And it almost mirrors in that sense, like my experience of academics. I was very serious as a student, and I didn't do a PhD. I thought about it, but it was like I was studying one poet, and all their works, and how they came to translate things the way they did, and the deeper you dive into one topic, the more of a world it encompasses. Like, you learn one thing, and you learn the history of it, and something else, and something else, and something else, so I rarely regret my sort of history-based and deep dive model of things.It's sometimes very intensive. It requires a lot. I think I've bought, for this project, I have bought eight or nine books already, including some that are only available on paperback, so I'm going to get a copy of God, The Rod, and Your Child's Bod in the mail, which I then... Once I read it and use it, I plan to publicly burn it.Yeah. I mean, that's going to... I feel like buying that is something that ends up getting you on a watchlist or something.You'd think, but you know what? Like, corporal punishment is legal in public schools in 19 states.Yeah. I mean-It's legal in private schools in 48 states. My home state of New Jersey is one of the two that's banned it in private schools.There you go. See? “New Jersey. We've banned something.”Jersey pride.Yeah.Jersey pride. And I feel conflict when I'm talking about should it be... Like, many countries have outright banned corporal punishment, of any kind, even by parents. You know, even by parents, whatever, including by parents. Sweden was the first, in 1979, and like, is that what I'm advocating for in the US? If we had a less s**t justice system, and a less racist justice system, and whatever, it's such a punitive and carceral society, maybe. That's not what I'm advocating for when I'm just saying like, "Don't hit your kids" on social media a lot lately. I do think it's a very reasonable demand to say like, ban it in schools. Like, because people get paddled in schools every day, and it's disproportionately black students that get paddled.And that's-By paddled, I mean struck with a board to cause pain.Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, and I mean, that's another issue in itself, is that you know, with any policy, with any sort of action, it's the enforcement of said action or policy tends to affect marginalized groups more than everyone else basically, but I really appreciate you taking the time to talk to me. You are one of the smartest people I know, one of the best writers I know, and I cannot recommend enough that people subscribe to The Sword and the Sandwich for both sword and sandwich posts, because-Yeah.... you will learn something in both.Yeah, I'm like looking at all this stuff about the history of the bagel right now. I found this New York Times article from 1960, that called bagels... What was it? "An unsweetened donut with rigor mortis."Like, okay, first of all, it's so good. I'm unabashedly pro bagel in my life, so-I don't trust anyone who's not pro bagel, to be honest, so-Yeah, so there is the sandwich part. The sword part is, you know, rougher, but they're both valuable in their own way, and thank you so much for having me on.Of course. Any time.Yeah. And I enjoyed this kind of loose, wide-ranging conversation.Yeah, it was great! It was so much fun. I really appreciate it. Get full access to The Present Age at www.readthepresentage.com/subscribe

My guest on this week’s podcast is singer-songwriter and [checks notes] king of Halloween Nick Lutsko. I’m really excited for this episode, and I highly recommend checking out the audio version if you can, as there are a few song clips in there (as well as a live/acoustic version of one of Nick’s songs at the very end).You can follow Nick on Twitter at @NickLutsko. His Patreon can be found here, his Bandcamp here, and his YouTube channel here.As always, if you enjoy the podcast and/or the newsletter, please consider subscribing and sharing my work on social media. There are free and paid subscriptions available. The Present Age is a reader-supported newsletter, and I appreciate your support!Parker Molloy: Nick Lutsko! Thank you for joining me today. I appreciate it.Nick Lutsko: Yeah, thanks for having me.So you just released the third installment of your Spirit Halloween trilogy, I guess.Yes.So how'd that come into existence for people who are familiar with the first two, but not the third?So, I did the first one mid-September of last year, unsolicited. This is the Spark Notes version. And the whole, I guess, kind of joke about that song was it's a theme for Spirit Halloween, but really it was more just a ploy for them to pay me for writing. The song was about my payment for the theme.Right.So, they reach out and they actually did pay me some money and they were really cool about it. And then they got in touch, said they wanted to do another one. So then after the unsolicited first entry, I did a sequel that they paid for. I guess technically they own it. And then they reached out early this year and made it pretty clear they wanted to do something again this year and they wanted to up the stakes. I think the language they used was, "How do we top last year?"Yeah.And my response initially was like, "If we're going to top last year, I think we need to get a significantly bigger crew." And when I say significantly bigger, that's more than me and my little brother who shot it. The first one was just me on my cell phone. The second one was me and my little brother in my house. And then for this one, I was proposing like, let's get a crew and a production team that can actually work on this thing and make it legit and cinematic and all that.And their response was sort of, "We don't want to lose the weird guy in his basement vibe." Which is fair. It might have also been a, "We don't want to spend way more money on this." So it just kind of forced me to get creative. At that point, I think I'd already kind of had the idea that I wanted to set the song as like, "We're coming out of the apocalypse," and like, "Things will return to normalcy," or not even that, "It'll be a utopia because Spirit Halloween is back."Yeah.And that was kind of the gist of what I was pitching to them. And I really didn't know how I was going to be able to shoot an apocalyptic wasteland in my basement, or I really dug myself into a hole because I wrote the song and I was happy with the song and then I had no idea how to shoot it. And I reached out to Brielle Garcia, who has been a follower of mine on Twitter.And it's kind of funny because she pulled my own card of me making stuff for Spirit Halloween unsolicited and she started doing unsolicited Snapchat filters for this dumb, fake gremlins movie that I made. And so I knew that she was way more technically savvy than I am. So I reached out to her and said, "Could you help me out with some of these visuals?" And I had no clue what I was getting myself into because she was able to do things that I could have never done in a million years.Sounds cool.So, yeah, yeah.How long did that take you guys to film and because it definitely seems like a larger production than anything else you've put out.For sure. Yeah. Well, I shot it all in my garage. My wife shot me in my garage as our baby was like chilling in a playpen in the corner. It felt very silly because I'm supposed to be interacting with this apocalyptic world, but I'm actually in my garage.And I have no idea if she's going to be able to do the things she says she's going to do because usually that stuff's done on a green screen.Yeah.But yeah, I think it was all done in about a month. I shot the footage in my garage. I sent it to her and yeah, it was insane, the amount of work that she did and how quickly she did it.That's cool.The way she explained it to me is, I think she uses video game engines maybe.Technology has just really advanced to where people are capable of doing things out of their bedrooms. It would've cost millions of dollars and tons of time, just a few short years ago. And I guess a lot of people haven't even figured out how to do some of these things and she's just on the cutting edge and yeah, it's pretty crazy that it was only her and I working on it and opposite sides of the country. She's in Seattle, I believe. And I'm in Chattanooga, Tennessee. So it was a cool project.Yeah, definitely. And I think that, because I was going to say, the first time I heard your music was all the Super Deluxe stuff that you did.Yeah.I guess, one of, sort of the benefits of Super Deluxe kind of disappearing or going away or whatever is the fact that then you kind of like, you were not just hidden behind the sort of the curtain there.Right.It was like, "Oh, hey, this is the dude who did the emo Trump songs or the Alex Jones thing."Yeah. Exactly.Because that was the thing. And I think it, that stuff resonated with me because it's like, so I'm 35, so the early-mid 2000s were high school. And at the time I was really into bands like Taking Back Sunday and Thrice and Thursday and all that. And there was this sort of holy s**t moment for me, where it clicked for me that Trump's tweets and sort of self-pitying statements were about being unfairly attacked and whatnot really read the type of the bands that were trying to make music like that, not them but the weird knockoff where it's like, "Oh man, you're trying too hard." You know?Right. Exactly.And from that moment on, anytime I'd see something stupid he said, I'd be like, "Oh man, this is like some kid with Hawthorne Heights lyrics as their AOL instant messenger way thing." You know? So I'm glad that that made it into my timeline because then that sent me down a bit of a rabbit hole where-Nice.Then I was checking out your other music that is not comedy and-Cool.... so I was kind of, can you kind of tell me what are some of the differences between Nick Lutsko serious singer-songwriter and Nick Lutsko, weird guy in his basement singing about Spirit Halloween?Yeah. Yeah. It's a great question that I feel like the lines become a little more blurry all the time. Especially as we're planning live shows and it's like it's a smaller set of people, but there are definitely people who were into my stuff before I started doing these sweaty frantic songs on Twitter. And there's a subset of people who are going to come to the show expecting to hear that. And there's going to be people who are coming essentially only expecting a comedy show. And then there's a lot of people who've reached out a bit similar to you that said, "I really enjoyed your comedy stuff and I dove deeper into your other albums and I really enjoy that as well." So it's like trying to figure out how to frame both of these things and I wish I had a better answer. I think once we start playing shows, I'll get a better feel for how those two worlds can kind of coexist.I did this Vulture article. They did the premier of the Spirit 3 song and I said something like, "The shiny sheen of sweat on my face is like my Spiderman suit to my Peter Parker." And it's obviously just a dumb joke, but it's interesting in that, like even though I've done albums that are not comedic whatsoever. And even this goes for my Super Deluxe stuff as well, I think it all kind of comes from the same place. And it always comes from my frustrations with the absurdity of the world. And especially the last album I did Swords before I started doing these Songs on the Computer. All of those songs were just a direct, almost involuntary response to the Trump administration and the Trump campaign.And it was all written 2015 to 2019. And the whole album just kind of has a sense of like, "Am I the only person that is seeing what is happening? And is this a weird fever dream nightmare, or is this reality?" And I finished doing that album and I really was anxious to create something that was fun and happy. And I just wanted to do a 180. It's like, "Okay, I've spent the last few years just really hyper-focusing on all these things that just really distressed me and bummed me out." And it's like, I want to write some fun music. And then 2020 happened, we went into a global pandemic and George Floyd happened. And it was just all, it was like all these gut punches over and over.And it became abundantly clear that I wasn't capable of sitting down and writing fun, happy, quirky music. And the one song I did that was non-comedic was called Spineless. And it was just even darker and than all the stuff from Swords. And it's funny because it wasn't until I retroactively looked back and realized that through the Songs on the Computer project, I was able to do what I wanted to do, but it's not like I sat down and I'm like, "I'm going to take all these dark, angry feelings and just do the most absurd, silly version of these things." It was just something that I just instinctively started doing, and I never really analyzed too much whatever I'm doing in the moment, it's usually other people telling me what they like about it.And then I'm like, "Oh yeah, that's what I did there." There's not a lot of, I don't know, analyzation happening as I'm... Because I moved so quickly when I do them, which initially just started out of necessity between juggling multiple jobs, it would be like, "Okay, I have a free day this week so I know I need to put something out on this day." And yeah, that essentially became like waking up, seeing what was driving me crazy in that moment or what was going on in the news of that day and writing a song as quickly as I could, recording it as quickly as I could, shooting a video as quickly as I could, and trying to get a video out that evening. So that was sort of how this whole thing started and it's something that I've tried to keep in the spirit of the project as I've moved forward because the Swords album was like, I would spend months and some of them even years on rewriting lyrics and re-tracking different instrumentals and mixing things differently. And I'm really happy with how that album came out but I do think there's been a real benefit to realizing that I can kind of go with my first instinct and still elicit a response from people.Yeah, definitely. The interesting thing about like, for instance, because you've made some really cool videos for some of the, I hate to say serious songs, but the non-comedies because-Yeah, that's kind of-But not necessarily serious-Yeah.... but it's just like-Right.It's not making a joke, you know?For sure. Yeah.But the music video for the song, I think it's Sometimes where it's like, it's just this gigantic production of, it's like a concert and you have and your band is wearing all sorts of costumes.Yeah.It's an experience in itself. And it's like, I'd love to see that live. There's a band here in Chicago. Oh God… Ah! Mucca Pazza, that's their name.Cool.They're a marching band.Oh, wow.They're a marching band that plays regular concerts.Cool.And it's just weird and over the top.Yeah.And that music video reminds me of their live shows, which were always so fun and everything like that. So I'm a fan.Awesome. Yeah. Thank you.Yeah. It's cool. It's kind of funny because yeah, we did that album Swords and we had the big album release party in Chattanooga in 2019, October of 2019. That's where we shot all of that video for some time. That basically was just like a highlight from the album release party, like a highlight reel. And the plan was to get that video, get our EPK, and then 2020 really try to get a booking agent and try to tour and obviously, 2020 happened and then none of that happened.Yeah.And then Songs on the Computers stuff happened and now it's in this weird place of like, as you mentioned my band before, when they were called the Gimmix and it started as like... I feel like anytime I try to explain one thing, I have to explain 10 other things. Basically, when I first started making albums under my name, I didn't have a band but I did have these hand puppets. So I used the hand puppets as the backing band for my music video Predator. And then when I finally did get a band, it was like, "Hey, what if we tried to recreate that vibe of having a puppet band?"So then we started making puppet costumes for the bandmates and those kind of just evolved into creatures over time. But anyway, when we started talking about doing Songs on the Computer live, I've kind of built this world and this mythology, and it was like having my band in these weird puppet costumes on top of all the Songs on the Computer stuff kind of felt like wearing a hat on top of a hat. So we're kind of resetting and approaching the shows from a totally different place, which is just cosmically hilarious, because we spent years and years and years trying to build to this place where we were ready to go off into the world and see what we could do with it. And then all of it just kind of got knocked down on and now we're kind of starting this new thing. So-Yeah. Well, I mean that's kind of the general idea behind this newsletter that, because in June I quit my job and I was like, "I'm going to go start doing a newsletter." And that was, I don't know if that'll be a good decision in the long run we'll see. And then decided, "Oh, I should turn this into a podcast because..." One of the things I've been thinking a lot about has just been the way that people had to adapt because of the pandemic and everything that changed, that all their plans had to shift. And the first interview I did for my newsletter, was with Will Butler from the band Arcade Fire.Oh, wow.And he was telling me about how he had all these plans because he was releasing a solo album in 2020 and so he was planning on touring in swing states right before the election. It was a whole idea for him and then he just couldn't do any of it because COVID and other bands have tried to figure out different ways to communicate with their audiences or approach things from a different sort of direction and that's why I'm just really interested in just how people are communicating with each other. I mean, because as it is, I mean the music industry's kind of chaos as it is. I mean, I went to school for, well at first I went to school music performance, classical and jazz guitar.Oh wow.But that lasted a semester before I switched to commercial music, but then I switched to music business.Oh, right.So the business side, talent management, and then after college, I was like, "Okay, cool. Now to get into the music industry." It was like 2009 and suddenly it's like, "Oh, everything is just streaming now and everything has changed."I had a teacher who was convinced that the future of the music industry was ring tones and I'm just like, "I don't know, man. I really, really do not know."Right. That's hilarious. Where did you go to school?So at first, I went to Millikin University in Decatur, Illinois. Which is just kind of a small school with a decent acting program, which has nothing to do with music. And then I dropped out and then went to Columbia College here in Chicago and finished my degree, so it was interesting. And I still like making weird little songs and I've got Logic Pro and a bunch of weird plugins that do all sorts of crazy things.Nice.It's like that stuff is a fun hobby for me. But the more I think about it, the more I'm like, "Oh man, I should have gotten a degree in something, anything else."Oh my gosh. Well, it's really funny because just by... I have a degree in commercial songwriting from Middle Tennessee State University and it's really funny because a lot of people, I just see people in the comments, and this is really kind, I'm not saying that this is true, but people will be like, "Man, you can tell that this guy went to school for songwriting." And it's like, I learned nothing. And not to knock the school that much, it was the first year of the program when I went there and my major was recording industry and they had three emphases, music business, which it sounds like you ended up getting yours in.And then audio fundamentals, which is engineering and producing and all that. And then commercial songwriting. Commercial songwriting was a new one and it just had songwriting in the name so I'm like, "Oh cool. I want to write songs, I'll do that." But it really was a very underdeveloped program at the time and it basically was how to make it as a songwriter in Nashville.So how to write for pop country, which I had no interest in. And basically what they taught was like, "Listen to the radio, find what's hot and repeat. And repeat enough without getting sued."And they teach you how not to get sued and how to still take those. It seemed like they just like juiced all the creativity out of songwriting and it really made me very bitter. And I really, I had to take a lot of secondary classes in music, business and audio fundamentals. And I gained a ton more from those than I did from the songwriting aspect and I wish I would've explored more of those things because I think that those, the songwriting part always kind of came naturally to me.But I do think just learning how to use social media as a way to connect with your fans was huge. And the few classes I took on Pro Tools opened a lot of doors for... I do everything in my home studio. So I knock my degree a little bit just because it's not something that I can hold up this piece of paper and be like, "Hey, hire me for my songwriting degree."Yeah.It's like, "No, people want to hear your songs and they'll judge whether they should hire you based on the work you've done." It's a whole lot of complaining for nothing because things worked out pretty well. I'm pretty happy where I'm at, but I don't know how much of it attributes to my education.Yeah. Well, I mean, same.Yeah, yeah.It's like all things considered, I think I'm okay. But in hindsight, it's like, "Man, maybe I should have taken more writing classes because that's what I'm going to end up doing and..." Here I am like, I don't know, does a comma belong there?Yeah.My writing mistakes are just really stupid, fundamental things that I should have learned in eighth grade.Right. Yeah.But yeah, with guitar performance, the first major I had, it was like, "Cool, all right. What do I do with this when I graduate?" It's like, "You can work on a cruise ship. That's a job." And I'm like, "Wait, wait, no, no, no. That?"That's funny. I actually explored that for a minute. And I was like, I looked up what you needed to be able to do that. And they were like, "You need to be able to play 500 songs." And I was like trying to count all the songs I knew and it's like, "Damn!"Yeah. Yeah.In another world, I could have been sweating on a cruise ship somewhere singing my heart out day after day.Yeah. My brother has a degree in musical theater and he had a job for a while on a Disney cruise ship where he played Peter Pan and Aladdin and all of that. It sounds cool but then he's like, “Yeah, and then they put us in these like tiny rooms with a bunch of us together. I was like, "Oh good. So it's like Titanic." You're in like the boiler room. No windows. Oh, great. Sweet.Yeah. The more you think about it, the less fun it seems.Yeah. I'm like, "Wait, this is the best-case scenario for this degree? I don't think so." So, I'd rather just not.Right.My first pivot away from doing music business stuff to doing more writing stuff was an internship at Pitchfork, which was kind of hilarious because it was transcribing interviews with bands that sometimes just… they were bad interviews.Yeah.One thing wanted to ask you about is just the thing that sort of holds, I think Songs on the Computer altogether is just the lore of it all that kind of all connects. You have your cast of characters that all, they all kind of work together. Where did some of this stuff come from? So it's like, you're like grandma, Mel, Dan Bongino, Jeff Bezos, man in the stairs, you know?Yeah. It's funny. I was thinking about this the other day and I think the RNC song, it was kind of the big bang of all of this. It's the first mention of grandma and her basement and man in the stairs. And I think back to writing that song, and it was one of the first times, I remember very specifically, I had one day to make it, I started that morning, I posted it that night and it was like, okay, the RNC is starting today, I got to do something. I remember, my studio's here in my basement and behind this wall is an unfinished nightmare world of a basement and it has a toilet with the messed up American flag hanging behind it. It has the creepy stairs. I remember thinking like, "Here's what I have to work with. Okay. I can work in that." You know what I mean?It's like almost using my surroundings as characters in this song. And as far as working Dan Bongino in, it could have been anybody, but his name just was the funniest to sing.And it was really funny too because I remember my buddy and bandmate, John, who, I kind of bounce all my ideas off of, I pitched him the idea and he was like, "I have no idea who Dan Bongino is." And I was like, "I think the only reason I know who he is because Vic Berger was fighting with him at some point. And maybe a lot of people won't know who he is, but it obviously was the right choice because it's by far the most popular thing I've done. And he just continues sadly to be a rising star in the GOP.Yeah. Well, and on the topic of Dan Bongino, I mean, so I was working at Media Matters, which is this progressive media watchdog group, so we had people there who would do nothing except watch NRA TV all day. Which, awful. I mean, and Dan Bongino came from NRA TV before he went to Fox News and the whole... We just mocked him mercilessly and he blocked a bunch of us on Twitter but then he would be like, "Oh, so and so blocked me." It's like no, you blocked us.Yeah.But yeah, there's always been something that's funny about his character because he's kind of dumb. There was one time where he was talking about making lemonade, but he had these lemons-Whole lemons, yeah.... weren't peeled.Yeah.He put it in a blender. It's like, "What the f*ck are you doing, man?”Yeah. Yeah.But yeah. So I thought that was a hilarious sort of addition. Yeah. It's kind of a very sort of niche reference, which kind of makes it better, you know?Right. Yeah. I think that's how it was received. And sadly, it's becoming less niche just because he's climbing the ranks at Fox News now it seems, but yeah. So I kind of started with that and I think the next, I don't know if it was the next one, but one of the next popular ones I did was the Spirit Halloween theme and again, that was just something like I had noticed Spirit Halloween was opening up as everything else was shutting down. And it was just something that was kind of stuck in my brain. And I made that theme really quickly again. And I did that turn towards the end with Jeff Bezos and it wasn't until I was editing it, I realized like, "Oh, I have this picture of this bald, creepy mannequin that kind of looks like Jeff Bezos."And oh, the man in the stairs also kind of looks like Jeff Bezos. And it's like, I'm connecting all these dots on the fly and I'm not thinking it through whatsoever. And luckily it's kind of unfolded in a way that's captivated people up until this point and I just continue to build on it. The really tricky part is not writing something that becomes so convoluted that it's just total nonsense to anyone who's listening for the first time. I really try to find something that is like... I think Joe Biden's inauguration was a good example of like, "Okay, if you've been following me on Twitter, you know why I look like I've been badly beaten, but you don't need to know that to enjoy this song."Right.Like that and I'll squeeze in a couple of lines to keep the story going, but I don't want to make it a full song about how Mel beat my ass and I'm running from a mobster called Big Pizza and whatever else. I like to just kind of sneak those things in when I can. But yeah, it becomes challenging as the story gets deeper and more complicated.Have to start mapping it out.Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.So what are you working on these days? Any projects or anything?Well, I am actually, I don't know how long this will last, but my wife just went back to work, we have a four-month-old daughter and three days a week, I am staying at home with her and I'm having to squeeze all productivity into Tuesday-Thursday while my mom and her mom watch the baby. And so far, it's kind of worked out. I had three weeks in a row where I was able to write a full song and post it on Thursday. I think I did the School Board Meeting song and then the Brendan Fraser song and then the Ernest P. Worrell song. I had a three-week run, I think. And it's funny because I think having these consolidated amounts of time forces me to be super productive. Whereas, over the span of a week, I just kind of twiddle my thumbs and wait for inspiration. But I work so much better under pressure and under deadlines and all of those things.But anyways, on Tuesdays and Thursdays, I'm trying to keep developing the Songs on the Computer saga. I think I'll have another collection of songs I'm going to release in a couple of months. I have some freelance work that I've been doing for Netflix that should be coming out pretty soon for their socials, like promotional work. My producer at Super Deluxe, when they shut down, he moved to Netflix and that's kind of how I formed that relationship there which was... Yeah, it's been awesome. Which by the way, I just wanted to say this quickly, since you mentioned it, my producer, Jason, who is also @Seinfeld2000 on Twitter.Oh, okay. Yeah.Yeah. He was my producer at Super Deluxe. I've told this story in pretty much every interview I've done, so not to bore you if you've heard it, but basically, I did an unsolicited theme song for Tim Heidecker and Vic Berger's election specials that Super Deluxe was producing and then that kind of got the relationship started at Super Deluxe. And I basically told them like, "Hey, I'm attempting to make some kind of a career in music and if you guys ever need music, let me know." And that got a conversation going with me and Jason and he eventually pitched the emo Trump concept.So I do got to give him credit in that department and that he was like, "Hey, Trump's tweets have been, especially emo this afternoon. Do you think you could make it like an early 2000s emo pop-punk song?" And I had a Tom Delonge Fender Stratocaster, that was like one of my first guitars and like-Same.Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. I hadn't touched it in like 15 years probably and I dusted it off and recorded that song so fast. I remember it just felt like this is my calling. Like everything has been building to this moment and that's what set off that whole path in Super Deluxe.Yeah. It's like, "Bring me the seafoam green guitar-”Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.“... with one pickup."Yeah. Yeah. No, it's so funny. I thought that was so punk rock at the time and now it's like-Really it's just like, "Oh man, you can't do a lot with this, can you?"You can't do anything! Yeah.But cool. Yeah. Is there anything I've missed? Anything you'd like to make sure I put here or tell people? Or-Yeah, I don't know. I'm sure there are things that I'm forgetting about. Obviously I'll be in Chicago and April.We're going to be in there October 8th and 9th, which is this weekend. I don't know when this comes out, but yeah, we had to reschedule due to COVID for the 22nd and 23rd, the 23rd I believe is sold out. But the 22nd has a lot of tickets left.I mean, that's pretty... Because it's at Lincoln Hall now, right?Yeah, yeah. It is. Yeah.I mean, that's like a decent-sized venue too, if you're selling out that's good.It's really exciting. Yeah. I mean, we had two nights at Schubas and we sold out both, which was just amazing because before the pandemic we couldn't even sell out our hometown.Yeah.And it's like to go to another city and sell out two nights in a row was just mind-blowing and then they move us to the bigger venue and we sell out there and then they want to add a second show and it's like, we kind of feel like we could be flying a little too close to the sun here, but we're definitely down to give it a try. And we've definitely, we've sold a decent amount of tickets for that Friday night and we have months until it's-Yeah.We haven't even really promoted it that much. The first two shows sold out within hours of announcing them. So we're hoping to do more shows next year. I did just launch a Patreon, which has been fun. It's just a place for me to dump all the stuff where people are interested in not just the character of sweaty Nick Lutsko and they want to know how I do what I do. And so that's been a cool little community I started growing. I think I posted it or yeah, like less than a week ago and it's had a pretty good start. I'm enjoying that.Yeah. That's how I really like seeing Patreon being used. Like, "Oh, here's this, you want cool behind the scenes? You want cool, raw? This is just me and my process kind of thing.'.Yeah.Or, "Just writing things, straightforward." Tim Kasher, who's in the band Cursive and The Good Life — he has a Patreon where he's just like, "Here's an alternate take of a song I recorded 15 years ago." And it's just like-Oh, cool. Yeah. I love that stuff.... this is the best.Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like there's a lot of different ways to use Patreon, some people just use it as a virtual tip jar for people that appreciate the work that they do continuously and then other people turn it into an enterprise where it's like, "Okay, if you want to see anything I do, you got to come in both." I'm trying to figure out like where this thing is going to to live. But I think it's going to be more behind-the-scenes stuff and we're actually doing... I hope I'm technologically competent enough to pull this off, but we're just going to do a Zoom hangout where I play some songs because the, like I said, the Chicago songs shows would've been this weekend. So it's just a way to, I don't know, give those fans who were looking forward to come to see us this weekend to hang out and hear some songs.Cool. Well, that's great. Thanks so much for coming by, Nick.Yeah, definitely. It was a lot of fun. Get full access to The Present Age at www.readthepresentage.com/subscribe

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In her electrifying, highly anticipated debut novel, Followers (Graydon House), journalist Megan Angelo imagines a world where our collective celebrity obsession and device-driven lifestyle almost get the best of us. Megan Angelo’s writing has appeared in publications like the New York Times (where she helped launch city comedy coverage), Glamour (where she was a contributing editor and wrote a column on women and television) and Elle (where she has written about everything from Lauren Conrad’s Instagram to NRA TV). She lives in Pennsylvania with her husband and three kids. Followers is her first novel. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/steve-richards/support

NRA’s Financial ChallengesDecember 17th - Fox Business News - “NRA spends on foreign fundraising amid financial challenges.”December 16th - Open Secrets.org - “Cash-strapped NRA discloses spending on foreign fundraising for first time”“Member dues fell to their lowest level in five years in 2017, as reported by The New York Times, a year in which it lost $55 million in income. The Washington Post reported that the group had a $10.8 million shortfall in 2018 as well.” - Fox Business News“NRA drains charities, pays for PAC - For the NRA, charity begins at home. The NRA, which is set up as 501(c)(4) social welfare nonprofit, rakes in money from its charitable affiliates while footing bills for its PAC with no sign of reimbursement. Although affiliated charities reimburse the NRA millions of dollars for various expenses, federal campaign finance records for the NRA’s Political Victory Committee show no sign of reimbursements to the NRA.” - Open Secrets  “NRA ‘School Safety Initiative’ Was Front to Increase Fundraising” “In an amended counterclaim filed in Texas federal court in November, the NRA’s former ad agency—Ackerman McQueen—says that the gun lobby used School Shield as a “shell” program that it did not intend to meaningfully execute.” - Via Daily Beast on December 5thNRATV Wanted to Become a 24/7 Newsroom Using NRA Funds: Ex-Hostex-host Grant Stinchfield claimed in an affidavit filed last week that now-defunct NRATV streaming platform once had aspirations to be a full-fledged news operation. -The Daily Beast“In the final 18 months, AMc representatives progressively discovered that LaPierre and his executive team, with the board’s oversight and approval, were marketing false products and narratives to NRA members, covering up sexual harassment, attempting to intimidate public officials, disrupting internal investigations about Russia, spending member money for personal benefit and more,” the ad firm further railed against NRA in a statement last month.Newsweek - The Oklahoma-based firm, Ackerman McQueen, told Newsweek Tuesday that it would counter allegations from Grant Stinchfield, the former host of a self-titled NRATV program, with its own "legal action" against him. Ackerman claims that Stinchfield, who served as host from 2016 until July, provided "inaccurate information under oath" in an affidavit that was filed earlier this month in the NRA's federal lawsuit against the firm.New York attorney general intensifies investigation into the NRA“The New York attorney general's office is intensifying its investigation into the National Rifle Association, recently issuing a new, wide-ranging subpoena to the gun rights organization that offers hints at where the high-profile probe is moving, a person familiar with the document told NBC News.” - Via NBC News on December 11thOutdoor Wire - “The questions seem to frame a simple theme: despite claims otherwise, the 76-member Board -with a few exceptions (more on that in a second)- was both ignorant and powerless. And those few exceptions followed - and continue to follow - the marching orders issued by Wayne LaPierre.”Outdoor Wire - “As many as 90 current and former Board members have apparently been told they face possible indictments in New York. Potential charges range from breach of fiduciary duty to tax fraud.”Wayne LaPierre’s NYTimes InterviewDecember 18th - NYTimes “Inside Wayne LaPierre’s Battle for the N.R.A. - How an internal power struggle, a New York State investigation and accusations of fraud and betrayal on all sides have left the longtime leader of the gun-rights organization reeling.”Wayne LaPierre, “If I lose every friend,” he said, “I’m prepared to do it.”“My attitude was, stay away from her,” LaPierre said, but he did not aggressively intervene, even as Butina coordinated a 2015 N.R.A. trip to Moscow. “I saw this itinerary that somebody had,” LaPierre recalled. “It’s got all of these meetings with this guy — what are they called? — oligarch so-and-so, and oligarch so-and-so, and deputy so-and-so. And I’m like: ‘You guys are all nuts. Are you crazy?’ ” But the trip, in which several donors and board members, including a former and a future N.R.A. president, met with senior aides to Vladimir Putin, went forward nonetheless.TTAG - “Noteworthy also is Hakim’s treatment of attorney Brewer. He doesn’t leave out the concerns about Brewer’s ethics or the astronomical amounts he’s billing the NRA, but Brewer is depicted as a crusading defender of civil rights, willing to cross ideological lines to defend constitutional freedoms.”TTAG - “But why would the Times agree to a relatively benign portrayal of someone the paper and its readers clearly revile? In Dell’Aquila’s view, it’s better for those who hate the NRA and the causes it supports to keep LaPierre right where he is.”

The gang is back and moving a bit slow. The NRA says The NRA TV is, "Distasteful and Racist." Doc is anti hippie. Dane's transition. Logans Run. Nose Pot. Ask Dr. Doc. Doc does The News. Get in touch at insignificast@mail.com. Thanks for listening.

Riding Shotgun With Charlie #056 Kelly Pidgeon ARMED and Feminine RSWC #056 Kelly Pidgeon on YouTube Imitation is the sincerest from of flattery. Don't believe me check out this video. Riding Shotgun WITHOUT Charlie   Kelly Pidgeon and Amanda Suffecool took it upon themselves to imitate Riding Shotgun With Charlie on a road trip from western Pennsylvania to Washington DC!  They even TRIED a GunGram.  I emphasis the word TRIED!   Kelly started ARMED and Feminine after being involved with her local emergency response team.  Her local police encouraged her to get her carry permit.  She ended up becoming an instructor and starting an instructing business. Then she started making videos to help her students so they were able to go back and revisit what she covers in her courses.  That became her YouTube Channel ARMED and Feminine, LLC.    She's been on NRATV, Eye On The Target Radio (with Amanda Suffecool) and several other programs and podcasts.  She's also part of the DC Project. The DC Project visits politicians to talk about the newest and largest growing number of gun owners, the women!   One of ARMED and Feminine's largest viewed videos is how to handle a traffic stop.  You can check out that video here. CCW Traffic Stop.     I picked Kelly up at National Harbor in Maryland and we drove into DC, then had to head back. Please check out her social media and YouTube channel.    ARMED and Feminine YouTube Channel  “If you can master shooting a gun, you can master a lot of things in your life.... the gun gives you the confidence in other areas of your life”  Instagram @instagram.com/armedandfeminine/ Facebook ARMED and Feminine Facebook Page   Check out RSWC Sponsors   Keyhole Holsters Veteran Owned, American Made http://www.keyholeholsters.com/ Dennis McCurdy Author, Speaker, Firewalker http://www.find-away.com/

Should the catholic church use holy water in a drought? In this episode, we talked about news spraying cities with holy water, Republicans on the lam, The Donald getting quarantined, the supreme court gerrymandering, and NRATV shutting down.We make up some new words, and we talk about what would happen if Lee Harvey Oswald fought John Wilkes Booth in a conspiracy deathmatch. Finally, we settle for once and all if Moses talked to god, or just ate some mushrooms.Links Mentioned: Bishop plans to spray murder-plagued city with holy water from helicopter to 'get rid of the devil' Oregon Republicans Are On The Lam Over A Climate Bill Reddit ‘Quarantines’ Pro-Trump Subreddit Over Anti-Police Threats Supreme Court: Partisan gerrymandering "beyond the reach" of federal courts Cash-Strapped NRA Shuts Down Its Online Channel NRATV Look sharp and support the show by getting our new doublestrike teeFollow Mythic Politics:Get email updatesSupport us on Patreon Follow us on Facebook Find us on TwitterPeep us on Instagram Subscribe on YouTubeVibe with us on SoundcloudSupport the show (https://patreon.com/mythicpolitics)

Liberty Roundtable Radio Show Hour 2 – 8/1/2019 * Major Broadcast Networks Sue to Stop a little-known nonprofit organization Locast, a Free Streaming Service. * Trump Pick Kelly Knight Craft for UN Ambassador Is Confirmed. * Pushing for gold! Astonishing moment six-year-old Chechen boy Rahim Kurayev completes 4,618 press-ups in one go-to set two world records. * 'Miss Bond doesn't have the same ring to it!'! First-ever black James Bond girl. * CLASSIFIED! USA’s most secretive bases that are even MORE mysterious than Area 51. * The NRA pulls the plug on NRATV. * Black Lawmaker William Lacy Accuses AOC of 'Using the Race Card'. * Willem Van Spronsen, A domestic terrorist from the same Seattle "Antifa" crew that recently beat up journalist Andy Ngo was shot dead by police while trying to attack an ICE facility in Tacoma, Washington with explosives and a semi-automatic rifle. * Former South Dakota Official Julie Osnes, to Fork over $750,000 for Fudging SNAP Data. * Michelle Obama Rents $23M ‘Shark House’ Mansion for L.A. Visit. * Tulsi Gabbard Winner of Breitbart News, Drudge Polls for 2nd Democrat Debate. * Tulsi Gabbard Comes Out Against Giving Free College Tuition to Illegal Aliens. * Lawmaker Proposes Bill Allowing Americans to Directly Contribute to Funding Border Wall When Filing Taxes. * Kohl's Joins With Amazon To Take Back Online Orders. ‘Oops, we did it again!’ NSA caught illegally collecting Americans’ phone data. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/loving-liberty/support

RITA LOFFREDO Spotlight Interview -- RIGHT NOW Podcast https://newrightnetwork.com New Right Network • The Fresh Voice of New Media Get RIGHT NOW Newsletter: https://bit.ly/newrightemail Connect on Twitter: https://twitter.com/newrightnetwork Connect on Parler: https://parler.com/profile/newrightnetwork July 10, 2019 - Interview Spotlight, pre-recorded Hosted by New Right Network https://newrightnetwork.com ABOUT RITA LOFFREDO Rita Francesca is a recent graduate of Binghamton University in New York and of the Women's Campaign School at Yale University. She is a journalist for Porter Medium and The College Fix. In addition to her work, she has appeared on NRATV and College Fix Radio. She hopes to become an international attorney. https://linkedin.com/in/rita-francesca-loffredo-225751147 https://twitter.com/loffredo_rita Also subscribe and listen on: https://facebook.com/watch/251026622038112 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/right-now-podcast/id1462363911 https://google.com/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9yc3Mud2hvb3Noa2FhLmNvbS9yc3MvcG9kY2FzdC9pZC83MjE4Lw%3D%3D https://open.spotify.com/show/7KzE93O1X4egXfX4z1xy3s https://pca.st/1r1L New Right Network invites a range of inspiring freethinkers. Everything they say may not reflect the direct views of New Right Network. Host: New Right Network Interviewer: Bryna Makowka --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/right-now-podcast/message

The NRA Dumpster Fire - Part Two Episode Summary In this second episode of a two-part series, we discuss the current state of affairs (circa 2019) of the National Rifle Association, the 2A travesty that it has become, and what must be done to fix it.   Additional Reading 'Revolt in Cincinnati' Molded National Rifle Association The Hostile Takeover of the NRA Allen West: The National Retaliation Association The Shit Storm that is the NRA Today and How We Got Here NRA Donor Directs a Revolt Against a 'Radioactive' Leader NRA Suspends Chief Lobbyist Accused of Assisting Coup Attempt It's Time for Heads to Roll at the National Rifle Association DC Attorney General Subpoenas NRA Financial Records in Nonprofit Investigation “Mismanagement, cronyism and self-dealing”: Following the shuttering of NRATV, turmoil continues at the NRA Oliver North Says NRA is Trying to Smear Him Because He Asked Questions     Learn More About 'Save the Second' Save The Second's vision is to save the Second Amendment by strengthening the National Rifle Association. They hope to grow the NRA’s membership, improve its public image, and secure the NRA’s long-term ability carry out its stated purpose of protecting our “individual rights of self-preservation and defense of family, person, and property,” as provided in Article II, Section 1 of the NRA Bylaws. Learn more about their mission and their Five Goals here: http://www.savethe2a.org    Support Our Show Are you enjoying our show?  SUPPORT US by becoming a Patreon Patron!  Each dollar donated helps keep this show going. Be sure to leave us a positive review on iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, YouTube and other media outlets.   Connect With Us Our Website: https://www.shootersnation.com Instagram: @ShootersNationRadio Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/shootersnation/ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/shootersnation/   Shooters Nation Discounts SQUARED AWAY CUSTOMS Save 15% on your order at Squared Away Customs by using discount code "SHOOTERSNATION". Squared Away Customs offers top-tier custom Kydex holsters and carry-gear, weapon lights, firearms accessories, and is a stocking Polymer 80 dealer!   Thanks for listening!  If you can't be safe... Be Dangerous!

On this episode of the John1911 Podcast:   Nighthawk & Thunder Ranch make a #3400 1911.  The Slim 400 Shooting.  When the girl robbed her dealer with a pit bull.  NRATV Shuts down their hot librarian Dana Loesch. David Hogg is desperate for attention.  Freeze still man crushes on Taurus.  Police property room nightmare.    Marky & Freeze www.John1911.com  "Shooting Guns & Having Fun"

Amanda tried to give Chad a personality test and screws it up in the process. Then we Catch up with the NXIVM cult, NRA TV being shut down, A Missionary the caused the deaths of 2 kids, and Jerry Falwell, Jr.'s craziness involving a pool boy.   NXIVM Cult trial: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nxivm-keith-raniere-guilty_n_5d0a839ae4b06ad4d25a6ac0 NRA Breaks up with PR firm:  https://boingboing.net/2019/06/26/nra-dumps-its-ad-firm-tv-crew.html Leaving the JW's: https://www.npr.org/2019/06/24/735352084/i-couldn-t-continue-on-a-former-jehovah-s-witness-on-leaving-the-faith Virginia Missionary causes child deaths: https://people.com/crime/virginia-missionary-uganda-allegedly-caused-deaths-2-children-impersonated-doctor/ Jerry Falwell, JR and the Pool boy: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-jerry-falwell-jr-miami-beach-pool-boy-evangelical-explained-850380 Reddit AITA: https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/c3sx03/aita_for_wanting_another_child/   Facebook: facebook.com/thesecularperspective Tumblr: http://thesecularperspective.tumblr.com/ Episode Index Website: TheSecularPerspective.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/thesecularperspective TeePublic: http://tee.pub/lic/dq5I2_9pamk Theme Music Provided By: http://www.jewelbeat.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPu9jawLiiCqWmnGNYC9ivA

Hank Strange WMMF Podcast: Colion Noir Speaks Out LIVE!?! Podcast #411 Colion Noir Speaks Out LIVE Hank Strange WMMF Podcast. The current state of the NRA and Wayne Lapierre, NRA TV and what’s next for MrColionNoir. Description: SUBSCRIBE AND HIT NOTIFICATION BELL:

The NRA dropped NRA TV. And it has made big news. The National Rifle Association will remain, but the ad agency that made the shows on NRA TV lost their contract and all the programming is off the air. Anti-gun advocates love it, but do they even understand what happened? Some are infuriated about it, but do THEY even understand what happened? Tony Katz (http://facebook.com/tonykatzradio) hosts Eat! Drink! Smoke! (http://facebook.com/eatdrinksmoke) presented by Fanimation.com (http://fanimation.com). The podcast is recorded live at Blend Bar Cigar (http://blendbarcigar.com) in Indianapolis, IN. Nestle now offers tubs of edible cookie dough. Has anyone ever really not had raw cookie dough because they were worried about the health risks?

Welcome to Gun Funny, Episode 97. Today I’m going to chat with Curtis Hallstrom from VSO Gun Channel, talk about the drastic measures a guy took to get out of the house, a woman who got shot but is being charged with manslaughter, we’re going to discuss NRATV and the worst gun malfunction we’ve seen. I’m your host, Ava Flanell. Welcome to the show everyone.

Hello Internet! Due to the popularity of the Round Table format of Episode 53,  We've decided to make it a regular feature of the show. In This Episode: We got extra Geeky talking about Kline Bottles The Horrors of Whisker Fatigue Erin's Travels to Minnesota for their Pride Parade The Suspension of Chris Cox and ending of NRA TV Oregon's Governor sending the State Police to Collect GOP Lawmakers And the Hi-Point Yeet Cannon and the hilarity that surrounds   Did you know that we have a Patreon? Join now for the low, low cost of $4/month (that’s $1/podcast) and you’ll get to listen to our podcast on Friday instead of Mondays, as well as patron-only content like mag dump episodes, our hilarious blooper reels and film tracks. Show Notes Klein Bottles Dr Catsby Whisker Fatigue Bowl The Transgender Socially Awkward Situation Defuser Card Twin Cities Pride Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus Hi-Point’s ‘Name the Nine Contest’ Takes Curious Turn as HK Weighs In Oregon GOP senator on governor sending police: 'Send bachelors and come heavily armed' NRA’s top lobbyist resigns amid chaos at the gun rights organization N.R.A. Shuts Down Production of NRATV, and Its No. 2 Official Resigns The N.R.A.’s Longtime C.F.O. Was Caught Embezzling Before Joining the Organization, Former Colleagues Say The Wild Geese Forgotten Weapons Pancor Jackhammer Forgotten Weapons Street Sweeper

This week we celebrate the death (not gun related) of NRATV Unfortunately we had to spend a lot of time searching for comedy in whatever euphemism you prefer for Trump's concentration camps (fortunately we found it) Also the Oregon State Legislator ran away and the President of the United States is a rapist. Fun times

1- One episode, 10 episodes, or all the episodes... THANKS FOR LISTENING! 2- We’re debating early 3- Couldn’t be a scumbag, she’s not my type. 4- Republican power forever 5- Gimme that blood. You have no secrets. 6- Hello, Oregon. We ain’t voting. We got gunz. 7- Conservative comics getting paid. I can't do it. 8- You’re under arrest for turning in the guns he was gonna shoot you with. 9- You’re under arrest for being shot in your pregnant stomach. 10- We’d televise your arrest but NRA TV is BROKE.

We get political this week with a discussion of Carlie saving One Day at a Time (2:45), the Democratic debates (12:00), NRA TV's collapse (20:00) and NatGeo's Yellowstone Live (25:15). Talk turns to pay-cable with HBO's Big Little Lies (28:10) and Euphoria (32:45). Bit Of The Week features Carlie schooling about the publishing industry (41:30).

Hank Strange WMMF Podcast: NRA TV On Pause! & Google Hacking 2020 Election Podcast #406 Google Hacking 2020 Election & NRA TV On Pause! Hank Strange WMMF Podcast Description: SUBSCRIBE AND HIT NOTIFICATION BELL:

Jim Geraghty of National Review and Greg Corombos of Radio America are glad to see Roy Moore a distant third in the GOP race for U.S. Senate in Alabama.. They also cover the National Rifle Association’s decision to shut down NRATV. And they discuss Pete Buttigieg facing new criticism for his handling of police and race issues as mayor of South Bend.

Last week, Dan and Maureen were in dire straits. Dan was in the back of a hot car near a pyramid, and Maureen got punched by a dog. This week, things are much better. Dan is now in a hot trailer, and Maureen dog is sleeping, so nothing can go wrong. In fact, things are looking up and getting spicy. A hero emerges in Chicago and spits on Eric Trump. NRATV goes down. Mueller's public testimony is scheduled. And the two Democratic debates are about to begin. In preparation, Dan has a list of every contenders' favorite comfort foods. Maureen is not emotionally ready. She never will be. Maureen does not want to watch the debates. But she will, because in SaysWhovia, we show up, so you don't have to. Get your comfort food. It's time to watch some TV. SHOW NOTES Dan's heading back on the road this summer, so Season Two of The Hitch is OUT NOW. Weekly episode drop on Mondays! Maureen's new book The Vanishing Stair is OUT NOW. NOW! Support Says Who and become a citizen of SaysWhovia by joining our Patreon today! You really can join for just a dollar. Or more if you want! Your Intrepid Hosts: Maureen Johnson and Dan Sinker Our awesome theme is courtesy of Ted Leo We love Darth

Reparations, Hogg Assassination attempts, Gov "Coon Man" Northam, NRATV gone. Advanced firearm skills training. AR-180. 

A humorous take on the president and his take on drones. Seriously, folks, this guy is our president? A serious discussion on Reparations. Apparently a senate leader doesn't think they're necessary. What do you think?  Second Amendment persons, get ready to shed a tear or two. NRATV looks like it's going away. Where will you get your information from now? Fox? How does your state fair under taxes when the Republicans are in charge or the Democrats?  A breakdown of our opinions on the Democratic Presidential candidates. Some surprises? Maybe yes? Maybe no? Israel has some human rights issues with the Palestinians. Who was there first?  The presidents speech is fact checked. Seriously folks, this guy is our president?   

Salesforce Bans it’s users from using its SW to sell firearms-Washington Post 5/29   Cottonwood hts. UT PD to wear Orange shirts to support” Moms Demand “ in June-Fox13 TV 5/29   NRA and Ackerman McQueen counter sue each other, AMQ severed ties with NRA TV leaving future in doubt-The Daily Beast 5/30(Ext Discussion)     Two different articles on the new  No Permit carry in TX after disasters: Governing.com( website for govt elected officials) talks about the bills’ passage hike Brietbart talks about The Houston’ PD Chief talks about how it will embolden Gang bangers.   5 Arizona Counties pass school safety laws. None choose to arm classroom personnel, all offer to Arm Principals and Asst. principals, 4 of the 5 choose to hire ret. LEO’s and Vets.- (Ext discussion) and would be Armed in clear view. (cotton wood and camp verde Journal (Local paper to me)   1,036  Migrants arrested at El Paso Border Patrol Checkpoint on Wednesday , Border Patrol out matched WASHINGTON Ex. 5/30   $49 Level 3 Soft plates  Because OF WARMER weather people will  be carrying Pocket .380’s, 9MM’s and .38 revolvers so we can discuss Summer CCW: Several new compact/ Pocket .380’s  4 are SCCY  CPX3, Redesigned Ruger LCP2, Kimber Micro .380, S&W Bodyguard .380   Auto Ordnance has 2 D-Day Comenorative Guns, The Tommy Gun and the M-1 Carbine with custom Wood Engraving   I will be talking a School & House of worship Safety refresher next Saturday (6/8)

#FakeNews  Yeah, that's the reason why the boys went this route. That sweet, sweet hash tag game. But really, Mike and Ryan are debating if the news can even be trusted at all. Mike reports the answer is yes. Ryan cites his sources as no. Nick has a terribly hard time judging this one. Topic points include: Infowars, yellow journalism, the Panama Papers, Covington Catholic High School, fascism, the 24 hour news cycle, Walter Kronkite, NRA TV, Maddox, and manipulating statistics. Does Ryan hate Taylor Swift? What does Nick think about the Men in Black? Does Mike respect the Pulitzer prize? Here's some click bait: Is the News Trustworthy?

The panel dives into the media’s latest misleading attacks on Alex Jones and how dehumanizing it apparently is to only date cisgendered people. Also, NRATV’s Grant Stinchfield details how the 2020 candidates’ battle against the Second Amendment is reaching full-force. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Townhall Review – June 15, 2019 Hugh Hewitt and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell talk about Federal Court appointments. Sebastian Gorka and Grant Stinchfield of NRA TV examines the issue of gun control. Hugh Hewitt asks New York Times reporter Michael Shear about his article on the Mexican tariffs and the agreement between Mexico and the U.S. Larry Elder talks about increasing taxes in California to pay for health care for illegal immigrants. Seth Leibsohn and Alliance Defending Freedom attorney Samuel Green talk about a troubling case in Phoenix against two artists. Dan Proft and David Harsanyi of the Federalist on climate change and the dire predictions that have not yet panned out. Mike Gallagher is taken back by some of the crazy things Democratic presidential candidate Kirsten Gillibrand has said.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

5 Things You Didn't Know About UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS Rick Ector is Protecting the Women in Detroit from Serial Killers https://www.facebook.com/detroitccw speaklifepodcast.com    https://scdn.nratv.com/videos/cam-and-company-2019-rick-ector-firearms-classes-for-women   Serial killer in Detroit preying on women.  https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/08/us/detroit-serial-killer-saturday/index.html

Welcome to Part 2 of the Loft Party Podcast Episode 95: “Let's really have this gun talk…!” OK… here we go… with Party Politics: So, I was sent a link of a video …. The video was an interview with rapper, Killer Mike, (one half of the group Run the Jewels) on NRA TV with black host, Colion Noir. I thought that two black men having this conversation on this platform was unique and enlightening. Today we'll discuss and unpack … The GUN TALK. The Sugar Honey Iced Tea: Freedom. Because you are truly free, you can make decisions from any vantage point except fear.

Welcome to the Loft Party Podcast Episode 95: “Let's really have this gun talk…!” First and foremost I want to welcome our listeners in Columbia … Thank you ALL... for telling a friend and joining the party… NOW … So, I was sent a link of a video …. The video was an interview with Rapper Killer Mike (one half of the group Run the Jewels) on NRA TV with black host, Colion Noir. I thought that two black men having this conversation on this platform was unique and enlightening. Today we'll discuss and unpack … The GUN TALK. Let's get into the IMPORTANT things… So, What are we are drinking? HORSEFEATHER https://jriegerco.com/portfolio_page/horsefeather/ So, What are we smoking? New World Puro Especial Toro http://top25.cigaraficionado.com/2017/new-world-puro-especial-toro/ R.I.P: Winnie Mandela :1936 - April 2, 2018 Steven Bochco, 'Hill Street Blues,' 'L.A. Law' and 'NYPD Blue,' Dies at 74 Happy Birthday: Mavin Gaye!, Quavo 27, Yung Jock 35, Michael Fassbender 41 (Magneto), Clark Gregg 56 (Agent Phil Coulson) Party Game: When was the first time you saw or held a gun? Or have you?

Rod and Karen discuss The March For Our Lives, black woman killed by off duty corrections officer, Cussing Pastor is back, Taco Bell chips, students will be armed with rocks, Killer Mike goes on NRATV, man attacks McDonald's dude loses 96k in robbery, police officer was downloading child porn, mom crashes into pole to prove God is real and sword ratchetness. Twitter: @rodimusprime @SayDatAgain @TBGWT Email: theblackguywhotips@gmail.com Blog: www.theblackguywhotips.com Voice Mail: 704-557-0186 Sponsors: Twitter: @ShadowDogProd

Dan Wos is a nationally recognized 2nd Amendment advocate and spokesperson. He speaks at events and on radio across the country and is a regular guest on NRA TV.  Dan is also an American entrepreneur, author, musician and NRA member. He is founder and President of three corporations–including House Detective Inc., a home inspection & appraisal company www.housedetective.biz and WosCorp Media, a multimedia company www.woscorp.com . He is also an active real estate investor.      Wos has been a musician since the age of 9. He has toured extensively throughout the United States in live bands and has many published works to his credit, including the 2000 Iron Cat records release U.S.Bandit by U.S.Bandit, the 2006 Iron Cat Records release Voodoo Man by the Dan Wos Project, the 2016 book Good Gun Bad Guy and the 2017 book Good Gun Bad Guy 2 published by Iron Cat Publishing. Some of his music has been featured in TV shows, commercials and on radio in many countries around the world. He continues to record music write books and write commentary for blogs and websites.                                                          ​  Dan is also interested in graphic design, and collector cars (primarily Corvettes, of which he has had an extensive collection throughout the years). Dan lives in Saratoga Springs, NY

Jesse and Brittany discuss technical difficulties and old age, listener emails, and voicemail related to Las Vegas and Puerto Rico, reactions in popular media to the attack in Las Vegas, including NRA TV's Dana Loesch & Pat Robertson, Donald Trump's visit to Puerto Rico, Rex Tillerson calling Donald Trump a moron and the subsequent speech,... The post #344 – “iPhone Lessons, Las Vegas Follow-Up, Donald Trump's Visit to Puerto Rico, Rex Tillerson on “Moron” Trump, and A$$hole of Today featuring Dan Bilzerian.” appeared first on I Doubt It Podcast.