Podcasts about Joseph Pilates

What role does movement play in lowering stress and increasing presence? How does posture influence our energy and confidence? In this episode, I invited movement expert and Pilates educator Lesley Logan, to discuss posture, presence, and movement. From the role of rhythm in your daily routine to the link between confidence and compliments, this episode offers a fresh perspective on what it means to truly care for yourself.You're going to love this conversation, and you're going to want to share it with everyone you care about who also desires to look and feel their best too!About Lesley LoganLesley Logan, NCPT, also a Habits, Mindset, and Breathwork coach, is the co-founder of OnlinePilatesClasses.com the largest catalog of free Pilates tutorials. And the only on-demand platform that helps Pilates lovers of all levels have accountability and community. Lesley has been teaching since 2008 and was trained by one of Joseph Pilates' clients making her a 2nd generation instructor. She has trained thousands of people around the world and hundreds of teachers. Helping women ditch perfection, take messy action and prioritize themselves first so they can do life better.Connect with Lesley:Free Mat accountability challenge: https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/registration/free-mat-accountability-challenge/Website: https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/For more resources related to today's episode, click here for the podcast episode page: https://www.theschoolofradiance.com/podcasts Follow Rachel Varga Official on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rachelvargaofficial/ —Catch full episodes of The School of Radiance Podcast here on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@RachelVargaOfficial —Subscribe to the YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@RachelVargaOfficial —Follow me here:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rachelvargaofficial/ Facebook: https://www.instagram.com/rachelvargaofficial/ Website: https://www.theschoolofradiance.com —FREE STUFF: Download my FREE Skincare Checklist, sign up for my FREE 30 minute biohack your way to clear skin and slowing aging training now, and my newsletter for promos and exclusive events just for you! https://www.theschoolofradiance.com/freebiesEveryone gets one FREE call! Book your free 15-minute call with Rachel Varga to see which options will help you achieve your skin radiance goals! https://rachelvarga.as.me/YourPersonalizedRadianceConsultation —Looking for Skincare products, Tutorials, booking YOUR private One-on-One, and the deep dive Radiance Membership?SHOP skincare: https://alwaysradiantskinshop.comBOOK your private One-on-One: https://rachelvarga.as.me/Initialconsultation REGISTER for Tutorials and/or Membership: https://theschoolofradiance.com As a disclaimer, please note that the information shared in this podcast and interview is not to be taken as medical advice, and it's always important to consult with your physician before making any lifestyle changes. Rachel disclaims any responsibility for inaccurate credentials of guests or information used that may cause harm.Thank you for tuning in to this episode of The School of Radiance with Rachel Varga (formerly The Rachel Varga Podcast and The Always Radiant Skin Podcast)!Rachel Vargainfo@theschoolofradiance.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Send us a textMost of you know that Joe had a group of very talented students who went on to share what he had taught them, either through their own certification program or with mentorship. Today's episode is All About Eve. Eve Gentry that is, one of those talented Joe Pilates' students. But the Pilates world may not know much more about Eve Gentry and what made her tick. She was a dancer, choreographer and seeker with an open spirit. With us to learn more about Eve's life is Mercy Sidbury, a movement dance specialist who combines her love of movement with the Pilates Method as introduced to her by Eve Gentry and one of Eve's assistant's, Michele Larrson.About Darien Gold ~ https://www.dariengold.com, https://www.allthingspilatespodcast.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/darien_gold_pilates_expertFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/dariengoldMusic credits ~ Instagram: @theotherjohnmayer About Mercy Sidbury ~ mercysidbury@comcast.net, Online classes: Zoom Tuesday 530 to 7 PM and Wednesday 10 to 11:15 AMSupport the show

Wow the lads ride again with their friend and comedian Ellory Smith to get into it about croissant walks, noise canceling headphone related injuries, Joseph Pilates thick and uncut, dipping your toe in the manoverse, hit the Energy Drink and Letterboxd Corners and more!

In this energetic recap, Lesley and Brad revisit Lesley's roundtable interview with the OPC teachers and reflect on the power of community, inclusive movement, and consistency. They explore how each teacher's unique journey contributes to the magic of OPC and share how the platform was designed to help every body feel seen and supported. Whether you're a teacher or a student, there's space for you here. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why OPC values community as much as consistency.How a curated class format supports movement without overwhelm.What it means to take messy action—and why it works.How diverse life experiences strengthen teaching and student connection.Why movement “snacks” can reframe how you approach exercises.Episode References/Links:Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukChat with Us - https://opc.me/chatSummer Tour - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comJoin OPC - https://onlinepilatesclasses.comMindi Westfall - https://instagram.com/bendymindipilatesRachel Piper - https://instagram.com/size_diverse_pilatesChristine Kam-Lynch - https://instagram.com/pilates.boundMegan Lauman - https://instagram.com/megans_pilatesYasmin Scholten - https://instagram.com/purapilates_yasmin If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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And I can tell you right now, even if you're not on the platform teaching it, when you're in the community, you're absolutely part of something. Lesley Logan 0:11  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:53  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the invigorating convo, the chaotic convo, the most amazing, we have the most guests ever, convo with the OPC teachers, minus Tami, but we'll have her on in a couple of weeks. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, you are missing out on some giggles and some fun. And I'm just so glad that Brad, if you guys are watching this on YouTube, I apologize for all the moving, because I asked Brad with my eyes, if we were ready for this. Brad Crowell 1:21  You asked me with your eyes? Lesley Logan 1:22  Yes. And you did a you did an acknowledgement. Brad Crowell 1:25  I'm just making sure you're on the screen. Lesley Logan 1:27  Yeah. And if you are listening to this, just so you know, you will not get motion sickness like everyone else is right now. Okay, he's settled. We're settled. Brad Crowell 1:34  Sunglasses. Lesley Logan 1:37  Okay, now, now we're all just experiencing what ADD and ADHD looks like in the same room. This is a lot. This is confusing. I'm gone, now I've lost track. Okay, let's bring this bus back on the road. So you should listen to the OPC teachers, because they're so fun. We had five of us. Well, I guess me. Brad Crowell 1:56  You count, you're a teacher. Lesley Logan 1:58  I know. So we're. Brad Crowell 1:59  Six out of seven. Lesley Logan 1:59  Six out of seven. We were missing Tami. It's really hard to get all the time zones to work, guys, so I was pretty proud of us to get six, but we'll have Tami on because we actually have really fun thing coming up with her later this year. So, at any rate. Brad Crowell 2:08  Yasmin lives in Germany, you know. Lesley Logan 2:11  I know. And guess whose internet was the one that was fucked up? Ours. So anyways, not that Germany has bad internet, but I'm just saying, like out of all the time zones, I just was having some problems. They were talking without me. They planned a whole trip while I was just, bye, disappered. Brad Crowell 2:23  Yeah, I know you popped back on and they were like, yep, we're just making plans. We're gonna get together. Lesley Logan 2:27  Yeah, they're having an overnight, that's what the OPC teachers do. They love summer parties and anything that brings community together. So you'll just want to listen to that one, but first we'll recap it, and then you can go back and listen. So this is what happens when I take over. I actually know the day, but I'm going to do it anyways, because I know what I wrote. So today is May 1st 2025, and it's Couple Appreciation Day. Brad Crowell 2:47  That's fun. Lesley Logan 2:47  Couple Appreciation Day, just so you know, on May 1st there's 40 other holidays. I had a lot of things I could choose from, but Couple Appreciation Day.Brad Crowell 2:54  Lesley produced, partly produced this episode. Lesley Logan 2:56  I did, I did. It's going to be a mess. So Couple Appreciation Day is celebrated on May 1st whether you've just started dating or you've been married for many years, it's important to appreciate your partner now and then. Celebrating the milestones you've passed and looking to more happy years in the future helps keep the romance alive. Even the smallest of gestures can make an impact. Do the chore so your partner can relax or prepare a nice meal when they come home exhausted from work. Romance doesn't have to be elaborate over the top, unless, of course, that's what a couple is into. But also, today. Brad Crowell 3:25  Can just be a touch on the shoulder or a thank you. Lesley Logan 3:27  You know, do something you're not usually doing without being asked. That's probably the best thing. Brad Crowell 3:32  If you always get flowers. Change it up. Change it up. Lesley Logan 3:34  Yeah, get chocolates or get flowers and chocolates.Brad Crowell 3:37  Or don't give something, but do an act of service or something else. Lesley Logan 3:42  If there's something that your partner complains about doing, maybe try to do it for them. Or if they are tired of driving, maybe today you get them an Uber gift card and they get to have a chauffeur to work. Brad Crowell 3:54  Ooh, that's a fun idea. Lesley Logan 3:57  Also, one of the other holidays today in the Philippines, it's Labor Day. So to our team in the Philippines, we have a lot of people out there. Happy Labor Day to you, by the way, that means it's like May Day, which is a whole historical day that I know about, but surface level. So I'm not going to go into it, but it led to a National Phone-In-Sick Day to make sure that the world knows what happens without your labor. And since we are on the theme of little ways of protesting, if you are an employee somewhere and you have sick days and you haven't been using them, use one. Call in sick. Let people know what it's, let people know what happens if they don't have their team. But just remember, to our team, Happy Labor Day. Have the day off and we love you. So, okay, we are headed to the UK this fall. This is for Pilates teachers and really big in Pilates enthusiasts. We have two locations. We have six workshops. Two are business, Pilates business, and four are Pilates movement related. We've got two classes. The deal on this thing is insanity. If you were to buy each thing one at a time, it was, like, almost $2,000 and we're selling it for, like, I don't know, 550 pounds or something like that. So you'll want to go to opc.me/uk to sign up and snag your spot on the limited spots that we have. Brad Crowell 5:14  Our second person who registered is coming in from Europe, so. Lesley Logan 5:18  Yeah, you can come in from Europe. Brad Crowell 5:20  Yeah, we're going to be in Essex or Leeds, and there's plenty of hotels in the area. Lesley Logan 5:25  And Leeds, the ors. Brad Crowell 5:26  Sorry, yeah, for you, you could pick one of the two. We will be in both. I mean, hell, you want to come to both? Come to both.Lesley Logan 5:33  There's only one workshop that repeats itself, and it's one that you probably want to go to twice, to be completely honest. So it's really amazing. And then this particular Saturday is Pilates Day. It's International Pilates day, the first Saturday of May. And in honor of that, we'll be wrapping up our spring training event. So you, probably too late to join us, to be completely honest, but we'll be doing that. I'm really, really excited. Brad Crowell 5:54  Maybe not. Lesley Logan 5:55  I don't know. Brad Crowell 5:55  If you want to hop in right now. Lesley Logan 5:57  You can. You'll, you'll have a week of replays, still not from today, but I think to the 10th. So you have seven days. So yeah.Brad Crowell 6:03  If you're, if like, you're watching, if you listen to this the day it comes out and you want to figure out what we're talking about, chat to us. Go to opc.me/chat and we'll send you a link to the Spring Training event. There's a few more days. Lesley Logan 6:15  Yeah, it's really, it's been quite a fun week. I'm really thrilled with the whole thing. I mean, it's just really fun to do classes live and like, you get your Pilates habit and routine on, and then you can go back to doing it with Iike, on your own time.Brad Crowell 6:27  I mean, this is kind of a perfect episode to be talking about Spring Training because. Lesley Logan 6:31  It really is. Brad Crowell 6:32  It features all the teachers that you're that you listened to in the last episode.Lesley Logan 6:35  Yeah, if you fell in love with them. Yeah, so they're all part of it. It's really quite amazing. And what's really hilarious is Tami is actually in the house right now, so like when this episode goes out. So she wasn't on that episode, but she's currently in our house filming OPC workouts. At any rate, just the irony of all it. Then this summer, we're actually going on our Summer Tour. And it is cooking, we are getting really, really close to announce the cities and help you snide your tickets, you're going to want them, because West Coast is the location of this tour, which means smaller spaces. It just is, just how it works out. Brad Crowell 7:09  It's true. Lesley Logan 7:09  You know, it's just expensive to have bigger studios in some of these cities. So they'll be smaller spaces, which means you're gonna want to get your tickets. So, opc.me/events, means you're going to get the first updates on the tour and all that stuff. So you'll want to go to opc.me/events. Brad, why don't you chime in? Brad Crowell 7:25  Yeah, if you are taking clients for Pilates and you are trying to figure out how to get more clients, or just how to create stability in this tumultuous time, we're doing a webinar on that. It's called the Growth Accelerator Webinar, and it's free, and I want you to come join me. There's a Q&A option, and I'll be sharing three big secrets that we've learned from coaching 2500 plus businesses just like yours.Lesley Logan 7:51  It's really fun, you guys. It's really amazing. It's like, it's a way for you to understand what Agency is, but also what we believe in the Pilates industry, because there are other people out there, and it's important that you know what the values of the people who are coaching you are, because it needs to align with yours. And we firmly believe in your business working for you. You're not working for it. And so that means that the templates that we use are more formulas versus like and this is how every studio needs to look and this is exactly, this is exactly how your onboarding series goes, and this is how this goes. Brad Crowell 8:21  Yeah, here's the language that you use, no, all that does not work.Lesley Logan 8:23  No, that does not work because you all have different audiences that you want to be talking to, and you're also coming at it from either this is your full time gig, or you want it to be your full time gig, or you have kids and this is your part time gig. Like everyone comes from a different place, so it has to work for you, and that's what we pride ourselves on, is you can really mold what we coach you on to your business. Last up.Brad Crowell 8:42  Last, but not least, my absolute favorite thing in the world to do is to go to Cambodia, and we have a retreat coming up this October, go to crowsnestretreats.com. If you got all to listen to this podcast, you've heard us talk about it a million times. But isn't this the year for you? Isn't this the time? Lesley Logan 8:58  Oh, my goodness, I just wrote a whole email about why you should let us do this and I'm correct. Brad Crowell 9:02  But also like, don't you need a retreat right now? Right now. Do you need a retreat? I do. I'm ready. Lesley Logan 9:08  I actually was looking at our potential flight plans, and one of them would let us go to Vietnam, but it's kind of complicated. We're doing all these other things beforehand, so I want to go to Vietnam, and also kind of want to go to Colombia, which I know is on the other side of the world. So it's different, just different where my head is, but one of the flight plans will let us have a layover, though, to go to Botanical Gardens. Brad Crowell 9:25  Oh, in Korea? Lesley Logan 9:26  In Singapore. Brad Crowell 9:27  Oh, in Singapore. Lesley Logan 9:28  Yeah, we did the Botanical Gardens in Korea. Brad Crowell 9:29  We did do that, yeah.Lesley Logan 9:30  So, but I just pinged you and said hey, there's six hours in the daytime, and so that's an hour. And then we need about. Brad Crowell 9:37  I think we were looking at the Botanical Gardens when we were there last, right? Lesley Logan 9:39  Having dinner, yes, you pointed out, yes, it was closed because we got there close to the eighth. So I think we could do it in four hours. Brad Crowell 9:46  That'd be awesome. Lesley Logan 9:47  Yeah. So anyways, we might skip Vietnam and go there. But here's what I bragged about in my email, what you would get if you were already on our waitlist for this. But I actually wrote about, we're really fucking good at this retreat. We're so good at it. And I say this because a lot of people don't like to brag about things. A lot of people are like, oh, I'm a humble person, no, there are certain things that you do really, really well. Like our friend Vincent unapologetically goes, I make fucking great eggs. I make great eggs. I watched the master class on egg making, and I make great eggs. He's never made us eggs, but I'm just saying he brags about it, right? Like, I'm aware that he makes good eggs, and I've never even had them. What we do really well is create an amazing experience for you. You have nothing to do on this trip but get your plane ticket and let us know when you land, because we will pick you up from the airport. Well, not us, but our driver will pick you up from the airport, and it will bring you to our house. And we have a wonderful schedule that is not going to make you exhausted, but it's also going to make sure you see everything.Brad Crowell 10:38  It includes a lot of free time. You're going to have a chance to chill.Lesley Logan 10:40  Yes, but not so much free time you feel like you didn't do anything so you have to plan something. No, it is a wonderful, the cadence is amazing. I'm telling you, every single person tells us how great the schedule is because we do it well. So if you would like to literally retreat yourself, I promise you, when you are halfway across the world, it's very easy to go, you know what? I could put a pin all that chaos, because I'm over here looking at this beauty, and you can actually, just for the nervous system, it's so freaking good. I could go on forever, but go to crowsnestretreats.com to snag your spot. Brad Crowell 11:10  Yeah, all right. Well, before we get into it, about the teachers, we had a question. Alison Pilates on YouTube asked, hey, I love the 60-minute full Reformer workout. We tried to find the links to the exercises so I could practice and get better at the pace. Where can I find them?Lesley Logan 11:26  Yeah, so you guys on YouTube, we have two full Joseph Pilates ordered workouts. We have the mat one, and we have the Reformer one, and they're both advanced. So I'm just gonna tell you right now, if it's the full order, it's super advanced, right? But at any rate, we have these on there, and it's kind of impossible to link to every single tutorial in the show notes of YouTube. I mean, I guess we can, but you can't click them, and there would be 79 exercises to click to. So actually, what you want to do is download the OPC app. It's free. You don't have to be an OPC member. Can download the app, and then you can go to the tutorials, and you can click on the Reformer, and they're all right there. They're all right there. And that way you can review the exercises you're not so familiar with, so you can learn them. And then when you take this workout again, you can be faster at it, or you can omit exercises not right for your body. That particular workout, I did all the super advanced back bends and headstands and all the things, and what I would just say is, even in my own workout, I don't do all of them. I pick two or three, but I did them all so that there is a place where this workout exists. I'm really excited that you guys are loving it, but, yeah, get the app. That's the best place. Brad Crowell 12:30  Yeah, the other thing you can do is, if you just want a list of links to the order, you can Google onlinepilatesclasses.com reformer order and a blog post will come up. We did make a post that has. Lesley Logan 12:43  That's linked. Brad Crowell 12:44  I don't know if it's exactly the same as the 60-minute YouTube video you were talking about, probably is, but. Lesley Logan 12:50  No, I can confirm. Brad Crowell 12:52  Lesley is confirming it's the same. So just Google onlinepilatesclasses.com reformer order, and you'll find the blog post that actually links directly to each one. Lesley Logan 13:02  So, thank you, Alison Pilates. I hope you enjoy that. And also, by the way, if you want to actually get better at the pace and the exercises, I highly recommend you actually just be I'm an OPC member, because at OPC, we don't do the super advanced exercises. We do more of the all level exercises, but you get to nerd out on a particular exercise and see how it works throughout the Reformer and on the mat, and we work at pace, and it's really fun. And then you can actually send me a video of you doing an exercise and I'll give you feedback on your form. There you go. Okay.Brad Crowell 13:32  Great job. Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into this amazing and super fun convo that Lesley had with all the OPC teachers, where actually, I got to know them better than I've ever known them. I didn't know any of these stories, so I'm really looking forward to chatting about it. Stick around. Brad Crowell 13:48  All right. Welcome back. So let's talk about Rachel Piper, Mindi Westfall, Christine Kam-Lynch, Megan Lauman and Yasmin Scholten. Only one missing was Tami-Adrian George, but we have a dedicated episode. Lesley Logan 14:01  Just for her. Brad Crowell 14:01  Just for her. Lesley Logan 14:02  She's got a lot we all talk about. Brad Crowell 14:04  She's got a lot going on. These five incredible women are part of the dedicated teachers at OPC. Each brings something unique to the mat, blending a deep love for learning with personal experiences that show how Pilates can transform your body and your life. Christine balances a full-time tech career while teaching Pilates. Mindi, known as “Bendy Mindi Pilates” on Instagram, continued Pilates after undergoing microdiscectomy, and now helps others find strength in their flexibility. Rachel a proud quote-unquote mat rat with a biotech background.Lesley Logan 14:39  I love that she's a mat rat with a biotech background. Brad Crowell 14:42  I've never even heard that term.Lesley Logan 14:43  I know, but I really think is there just a better animal? Brad Crowell 14:46  All right, well, so she has a biotech background. She still works in science and teams and all the things. She brings her love of themes and creative expression to every single class. Megan, a mother of four, based in Missouri, discover Pilates as a way to heal her body and now teaches from her home studio. And Yasmin, based in Germany, left corporate life to open a home studio in her small town where she grew up. Okay, I just want to put this out there right away, before everybody else asks, how do I become a teacher on onlinepilatesclasses.com? This is what, we get asked this all the time. Here's the truth of it. All five of these women who are on this interview were already OPC members. They were already participating. They were already changing their life with the consistency of their practice and using OPC to do it. And that's how we met them. Like I mean, there's other ways we actually met them, some of them outside of there, but that's how we got to know them. That's how it began to make sense. They were asking all these questions. They were participating, and it was a very organic opportunity, over the years to invite them to teach, because they actually care about the community. That's the thing that matters for us. Lesley Logan 15:52  Yeah, like you said, I've had, I still always have people who ask, and it's like, if you're not in the community participating, then it's really hard for us to get the community to want to take your class. And then the other thing I'll just say is, even if you're coming to join and be part of the community, we're not hiring all the time. So, yes, join because we want you to be a part of it, but join for you, not because of that goal. And then the other thing I want us to be like every single one of these girls has done eLevate, my mentorship program, so that we're all in the same page, so even though we're taking our own experiences and our own bodies and our own way of feeling the exercise in our body, but they all understand how Joseph Pilates created this stuff and gave it to Jay and his teachers taught me and all the stuff. So, are we looking for more teachers? Not this time, because we're really focused on the community and growing the community, but I would love to see you in the community, because I think why a lot of people want to be a teacher on the platform is because they want to be part of something. And I can tell you right now, even if you're not on the platform teaching it, when you're in the community, you're absolutely part of something. And that is something I'm so proud of, our members who share things. People know each other's name, even though they've never met. And people do connect in in-person events that we have, and then they hang out without us. There are eight women who take OPC classes at the same time on Wednesdays, at 8 a.m. and they're not teachers on this platform, but they are teachers. And so I just want to say OPC was never designed just for teachers, it'sdesigned for everybody, but I think that most people just want to, because they want to be part of something. You could be part of something without the commitment of figuring out your lighting and making sure your camera is straight. Brad Crowell 17:32  That is, that's the thing. Lesley Logan 17:33  And that your mic is actually working. Because sometimes you film an entire workout that is unusable. Brad Crowell 17:37  And I love, I think the thing I love the most about OPC is that once a month we do a live mat class, and after the mat class is over, everybody just hangs out and they just talk, and they get to update each other on different things about life, and it's been. Lesley Logan 17:55  We just celebrated, like a couple girls just finished their exams, so that was really fun. We know that from the hangout sessions, and then we know some of us picked up their kids from college and did spring break with them. Like it's kind of fun to know what everyone is doing. Brad Crowell 18:08  It's actually a community of people who care about each other. And we started doing it in COVID, and we just never stopped, because it's rad. Lesley Logan 18:17  Yeah. And also, to be honest, if I could record all of the OPC workouts I have to film with OPC members being there, I would do it. I would so do it. But the reality is, life happens, and we're like, oh, let's, we're moving this around. People will just be so confused. So, at any rate. But let's get into this episode. Brad Crowell 18:34  Yeah, absolutely. Lesley Logan 18:35  So, hold on. Brad Crowell 18:36  Take us away. Lesley Logan 18:37  All right. There's so many things to love, but Christine mentioned something that I really wanted to point out. She said there's something about being on the apparatus, apparatuses, the apparati, anyways, the apparatuses, the equipment that makes me feel connected inside. And I couldn't agree more, like I think it's just a fun way to get to know yourself. I think it's really difficult, because today there's this trend in the industry where everyone is over correcting all the time and cueing a lot, and so you don't always have time in your body, which is why I really appreciate how great our teachers are telling you how many reps, and giving you a rep to be by yourself, and giving you permission to change the exercise if you need to. And I think that allows you to have that connection. Brad Crowell 19:21  But what if you're doing it wrong? Lesley Logan 19:23  Oh my God, you're not gonna die. You're not gonna die. Most of the time, people doing it wrong are just doing choreography, and so they're like, this is too easy. I don't get it. That's most of it like, very rarely are people doing it so wrong they could hurt, no, no, obviously, if you're working with spring. Brad Crowell 19:38  Jay's quote here.Lesley Logan 19:40  Oh, Jay always says, "Ugly Pilates, get used to it. Dangerous Pilates, never." And so of course, we don't want you to do dangerous Pilates, but a lot of times people are doing exercises they're not ready for, that would be dangerous, so you got to be careful. But that's why I love our OPC teachers always reminding people to, that it's brave and courageous to do something else. Also, Christine mentioned that she loves taking from the other teachers, because she she actually gets different cues or different ideas or different connections from the different teachers. Because when I was picking teachers for the platform, I think it's so important, we one day, like, actually put our inseams on a list. Because we're like, well, maybe we should let all the members know what equipment we have, so that they can maybe set their equipment up, our equipment, or whatever. And then, well, should we let them know how tall we are, and then it's like, well, we're tall, but some of us have longer legs, so that we need a measure of everything. So anyways, Christine is one of our fun size teachers, and so it's really fun, because she can understand different things, even for her body, while working with the taller teachers. But I know that our members who are fun size love taking with Christine, because, like, oh, that's how Christine does it. Okay, great. So it's kind of fun. Mindi also said that she loves learning from the other teachers, but she said learning from the other teachers is one of the most important things I can do for myself and also for my own practice, because I learn something new every single time I take someone's class. And I think that that's what is so fun. Because a lot of people are like, oh, use the order. That's boring. No, it's not boring. Because if you're truly doing the workout and not wanting to be entertained, it doesn't even feel like it's something you've done before. It feels like you're having a new exploration. Because your body is different depending on what time of day you work out, depending on what you did the day before. Brad Crowell 21:17  Definitely, day to day it's different. Lesley Logan 21:18  Today, my mat class, I have my own mat workout today, slayed it. Slayed it. I was so strong. I felt so good. It's not how I always felt. So anyways, I just really appreciate that even our teachers. Brad Crowell 21:30  Hey, good job, babe. Lesley Logan 21:31  Thank you. On this Couple Appreciation.Brad Crowell 21:33  We're celebrating the national couple's day. Lesley Logan 21:35  Yes, I won't cook dinner, though, it's okay. I'll go get it. I mean, really, it would just be tater tots. I'm really good at those sweet potato ones, specifically, everyone. I really like that. With those two teachers, both mentioned how much they love learning from the other people, and I think that's what makes it so fun. Because even if you're not a teacher, just imagine how much you're going to learn. What did you love? Brad Crowell 21:57  Well, when Rachel was talking about consistency, okay, here's the thing about what Rachel was talking about that I connected to OPC, and it made me happy. When we were brainstorming OPC, we were trying to figure out, how do we compete with other platforms that have thousands and thousands of videos, and it made me think of Netflix, and it made me realize I never get to watch anything because I spent too much time trying to figure trying to figure out what to watch that by the time I'm ready to watch whatever I picked, I don't have any more time. So we said, well, how could we do that for OPC? We kept the class options small on purpose, and that really lends itself to consistency. Just being able to log in, click play and go. Another thing I thought was really interesting, and Mindi talked about this too, but Rachel only kind of realized that she's hypermobile recently, like in the last couple of years, and that, I think for me, it was blatantly obvious I've been able to bend my body like crazy. Lesley Logan 22:55  I think, but also because a lot of people think that hypermobility, you like, super hyperextend your joints and like, your elbows and your knees, but you can be hypermobile in some joints and not other joints, and it doesn't have to look extreme.Brad Crowell 23:11  Sure, you could just be hyperextending. That's still hypermobility, right, hyperextending. What's really great is that, when Rachel shared her story she was talking about everyone told her, by the time you're in your 40s, you're going to need your knees replaced, and because she was doing Pilates before going to see a doctor, now they said, hey, you've been protecting yourself by doing Pilates all these years, so you don't need a knee replacement. And that's insane. That's amazing. I love that. That's incredible. Lesley Logan 23:38  Did you know that the knee replacements are through the roof with how many people are needing today versus decades ago, and women will need them more than men. And it's actually not because of how we walk, because people in tribes don't need knee replacements. It's because we have a lack of strength balance between our hamstrings and our thighs, quads, outer hips, and so when you don't have that kind of a balance, your joints don't operate in the same way and you're demanding muscles to do support of things that need other help. And so that is why knees are not working the way. Brad Crowell 24:12  Interesting. Lesley Logan 24:12  Yeah, it's a whole thing. Do your hamstring curls on your Reformer, everyone, or if you don't have a Reformer, do your single leg kick with precision.Brad Crowell 24:20  What she said when Megan was sharing, it was really great to listen to her talk about her family, and I got really excited to hear her talk about her partner, and we know.Lesley Logan 24:30  That's because you love him. Brad Crowell 24:31  Well, his name's Adam, he's rad. But it was what I thought was so cool, was that the two are very intentional about tagging each other in tagging each other out. They've four kids, y'all. So you know, there's a lot going on all the time, yet in the chaos of just life, they still are intentional about setting aside time for themselves individually, which is when Megan gets to do her practice. And that's awesome. I think that's really great. One thing that I also really appreciated was she said she was really encouraged about how inclusive OPC is, and we're talking all forms of inclusivity here. The mix of teachers are working full time in another business, all the way to teaching Pilates full time, different sizes, shapes, bodies, color, different areas of the world, different backgrounds. Lesley Logan 25:22  And also, you know, here I am. I don't have children, so it's really easy for me to say. Brad Crowell 25:26  Right, moms know moms.Lesley Logan 25:27  You, it's really easy for me to say, be consistent. But I love that I was able to find people in our community who are also amazing teachers. Megan has four kids. Not just four kids, she's got two kids who are teenagers. And then two, well, I think a third is a teenager, one's about to be, with two special needs. Rachel talked about her son. And then Yasmin has kids. We have a few, and then Tami has a kid who, she got into college. So, like, they're all in different life paths, too. And so I really wanted. Brad Crowell 25:55  Dog moms on their runners. Lesley Logan 25:56  Yeah, single versus married. Like, I really wanted people who join OPC to see themselves in at least one teacher, if not a few teachers, like, oh, I have a full time job too. Christine and Rachel do. Not that the rest of us aren't full time guys, but, like a nine to five. There's a difference within a nine to five. Brad Crowell 26:13  They're also teaching in addition to their full time job. So, you know, so, so you're not alone. Just the diversity of all of that really does make it inclusive. There's an opportunity to see yourself in at least one of the teachers, and so we hope that you also are making that connection and enjoying that. And then when Yasmin was sharing her story, she actually talked about how damaged her body was after a career sitting at a desk, and it was causing a lot of pain for her, and she found Pilates as a, I guess, part, partly as rehab, but, but now today, that's like she's dedicated her entire life to it. She, you know, got certified, and then eventually quit her corporate job. And she said the thing that she loved the most about OPC was that it's a sense of not being alone in her home studio, which, you know, she's inherently alone, and once she can tap into OPC, she can participate in a community that's all over the world and is really supportive and encouraging. And, you know, I just love that. I think that's great. Lesley Logan 27:14  I love that she talked about construction sites. She was referring to, like, you know, we all have struggles in our bodies, and she called them construction sites. And I was like, you know, I just feel like when you learn English as a second language, there's just a better way of saying the things that you are working on it, you're putting something together, you're building something. Brad Crowell 27:30  Yeah, that was pretty cute, that was really cute.Lesley Logan 27:31  Yeah, I can't we're gonna see her in person in September.Brad Crowell 27:33  Oh, I'm very much looking forward to that. Oh, yeah, when we come to the UK. In fact, y'all, the person who is coming from the EU is Yasmin, the teacher. So come meet her. Come meet us. That'd be a lot of fun. Anyway, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into some really juicy Be It Action Items that shared from this plethora of wisdom and knowledge that we have on these OPC teachers platform. So stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 27:58  Welcome back. Let's dig into this bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted Be It Action Items from your convo with all these lovely ladies. I'm gonna jump in first here. Christine mentioned that she treats movement like snacks. And I thought that was brilliant. I thought that was such a great visual, because if you're working and you're hungry, what do you do? You reach in the drawer and you grab a Slim Jim. Maybe not Slim Jim, but you know, you grab a jerky snack.Lesley Logan 28:26  I'd go for Chomps, but they're not sponsoring this, but it's about meat. Brad Crowell 28:28  Yeah or whatever, or you grab, hopefully it's not just pure sugar, but I love the idea of treating movement like a snack. What if you just got up and did a quick lap around the office? What if you?Lesley Logan 28:39  We did a movement snack yesterday. We were kind of like head funk, and we went outside and just walked around one block. And you know what, guys, it felt great. And then you do push ups while you're waiting for your coffee. Brad Crowell 28:50  Push ups with my coffee often, if I feel sluggish, if I feel that afternoon tiredness, I will just go do a handstand against the wall, and I'm not even trying to balance. The whole goal of it is to get blood flow back into my brain. Lesley Logan 29:04  If you're thinking about your heart, it's youth, fountain of youth. Brad Crowell 29:07  Yeah. So I love this idea of thinking of it like a snack. It actually makes it even easier to go do brilliant. So, love that. Great job. Mindi talked about taking messy action. That is something that we've been saying.Lesley Logan 29:19  Something that she didn't say on this podcast, but Mindi has the entire intro memorized of the Be It Pod. So, yeah.Brad Crowell 29:25  Yeah, Mindyi's amazing, but, but taking messy action, right? How often have we talked about that here? And I love that that's something that she lives by and she thinks about all the time, because it kind of takes away the fear of whatever the thing is. It's allowed to be messy. It doesn't have to be perfect. We're not doing brain surgery here. So it doesn't have, necessarily have to be perfect the first time, right? That's not that common. So it's okay to get your feet wet, get started and figure it out as you go for most things. And I love that when it comes to movement, when it comes to Pilates, we can apply that, obviously. So, love that. Great job, Mindi. What's your biggest takeaway?Lesley Logan 30:05  Okay, we had a few. So, Rachel said don't show up for anyone else, but you. And I do love that. And I will say, if you have a hard time being selfish, then think about the problem you are going to be for the people you love, because you won't be able to go up the stairs. And then if that makes you do it, then that's great, because I really do agree with that. And I also think some people have a really hard time showing up for themselves, but I agree we all have to get to that place. You have to love yourself enough to show up for you. Megan said find a way. Find a way to prioritize self-care, movement, even just a, find a way, there's always a way. So, I agree. And then Yasmin said the root of the goal is not to be perfect in this moment and just do your workout practicing with the teacher. And I like that. So it's like, the only thing I have to work on today is being with the teacher, just moving with this class. What if you were not, like, I gotta get this teaser today, you know, so and then to find confidence in your body. And I think that's really, really sweet. And I think, you know, no one is Googling, like, how to have confidence in my body, but I do think a lot of people lack confidence in themselves. They come off very confident, and they come off very self-sufficient, and they come off as they're able to highly function and do all these amazing things, but they actually don't trust how they feel, and they don't have a mind body connection, and that's something we really want to achieve at OPC. And so here's the deal, Pilates Day is a Saturday. There's a reason why this episode is coming out this week. We wanted to celebrate this amazing holiday that's coming up that has given us an amazing career. And truly, we're doing it with the most amazing people doing this. But also we want you to do Pilates with us. A lot of you who listen and you go to an in-person studio, OPC can be the supplement. If you're only doing Reformer Pilates, you can do the mat work with us. Because if you actually want to see what, you're superly capable of. Superly capable of. Brad Crowell 31:45  I was wondering what word that was. Lesley Logan 31:47  I like it. Superly capable of. Brad Crowell 31:48  Superly capable of. Lesley Logan 31:49  It's like now there's a ring to it.Brad Crowell 31:50  Let's all be superbly capable of.Lesley Logan 31:53  Superbly capable of, you know, you need to get on the mat. It is hard, and if it's easy, you're not doing it right, which is why you have to join OPC so we can, actually, can submit a video of you doing an exercise, and I can tell you like, oh, actually, your feet go here, or this goes here. So, you guys, go to onlinepilatesclasses.com and join us. You can join us for 40 days for $40 and you get to take classes from these amazing people, and Tami, and you can be part of this amazing community. You heard him. Brad Crowell 32:20  And Lesley. Lesley Logan 32:21  And me, I'm teaching. I teach 40% of the classes. I'm like, every other week. You don't get away from me. Also, feel like I won't use it. I know me. No, we have accountability. We take classes away so you do show up for you. And you can help, you can find people in the community that will hold you accountable. You go, okay, I'm gonna do it on Tuesday who wants to do it with me? Brad Crowell 32:38  Look, I just want to say we are all doing Pilates, right? But at OPC, we actually have a process, okay, and that process includes our big three. We call them the three C's, consistency, community and connection, right? And we help you follow our process, which helps you maintain that consistency. Lesley Logan 32:59  Well, when we created this, and Brad's like I want to do this, I said, well, I love what people experience when they go take class together. I really love that there's that I've got to show up because the class is at x time and I'm going to see x people. Like, I love that, right? But if you miss that class, then you like, might go a week before you get to take class again. And I hate that. And so it's like, how can I have the accountability of an in-person class and the community of in-person, but the accessibility of a chaotic life. And so that is why every single Tuesday, a new class drops, an old class goes away, and you have access to that new class for two weeks. So there's always a couple to choose from. So if you're like, I didn't really understand that teacher, you don't have to worry about it. There's another teacher's classes up there. So it's really great. And you get to, when you say, I took class, I took Hippy Ki-Yay, people know what you're talking about, because they're all taking Hippy Ki-Yay, no one is like, oh my God, from five years ago. I just want to say this community.Brad Crowell 33:52  That's what makes this community really fun is because when people like, oh, I finally got the roll up when so and so is teaching. You know what they're talking about, because you're taking the same class as them and you're like, oh, yeah, that was the moment. So it really brings people together. And all that was by design, and we're really proud of that, because when people follow the process, they win. You win, and we want that for you. Lesley Logan 34:14  Just go to onlinepilatesclasses.com. Check it out. Sign up for the trial membership and get into the community. Send me a video.Brad Crowell 34:21  Join us for live class. Lesley Logan 34:22  You know, if you love this podcast, you're gonna love the community, I promise you that. And then the OPC app, which is for you, you can listen to this podcast, you can see tutorials, and you can communicate in the community. So Bayon is really excited for you to join us too, if you heard that from the way, way back of this house. And until next time loves, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 34:42  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 34:44  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Twenty-four thousand men were crowded into Knockaloe Interment Camp in 1914 because they had been found guilty of being in the wrong place, at the wrong time, with the wrong last name.Tightly confined behind barbed wire, those men grew increasingly weak, feeble, stiff and awkward until a man named Joseph was shoved through their gate on September 12, 1915.He gave his fellow prisoners strength, stamina, flexibility and grace.They never forgot him.When the war was over and those men were released, Joseph boarded a ship for America. While onboard that ship, he fell in love with a woman named Clara who was also headed to America. When they arrived in New York, Joseph and Clara opened a studio on 8th street that would send ripples across the world.The rest of this story is about how those ripples became a wave.George Balanchine sent his ballet dancers to Joseph on 8th street to gain strength, stamina, flexibility and grace.Martha Graham sent her modern dancers to Joseph on 8th street to gain strength, stamina, flexibility and grace.The best dancers on Broadway went to Joseph on 8th Street to gain strength, stamina, flexibility and grace.George Balanchine became known as “The Father of Modern Ballet.”Martha Graham is shown in Apple's famous “Think Different” video as one of the 17 people that Steve Jobs felt had changed the world.Broadway, Ballet, and Modern Dance were lifted to new heights.When those ripples from 8th Street reached California, the “Golden Age of Hollywood” began.Gene Kelley danced with a light post and sang in the rain to the thundering applause of America.Slim, elegant, and incredibly strong, Fred Astaire did impossible things effortlessly.Ginger Rodgers did exactly what Fred did, but backwards and in high heels.A young man was known for his slogan, “Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.” He brought strength, stamina, flexibility and grace to the world of boxing.Like Martha Graham, this young boxer was chosen to appear in Apple's famous “Think Different” video as one of the 17 “crazy ones” who changed the world.He had been the heavyweight champion of the world for 5 years when a 10-year-old boy named Michael elevated dancing to an even higher place with the help of his 4 older brothers. Those 8th Street ripples of strength, stamina, flexibility and grace had splashed back from the California coast and were now rippling through Motown.Charles Atlas and Joseph Pilates were born one year apart and lived an almost identical lifespan.Charles Atlas gave men bulging biceps that other people could admire.Joseph Pilates told us how to gain the strength, stamina, flexibility, and grace to do whatever we want to do.What do you want to do?– Roy H. WilliamsPS – Joseph loved Clara until the day he died.Are your employees happy to follow you, or do they avoid you like a skunk at a garden party? Phillip Wilson says the more accessible you are as a leader, the more your business will thrive. But when leaders create a gap between themselves and their employees, they lose top talent and nudge workers toward unionization. Listen in as the famous Phillip Wilson explains to roving reporter Rotbart why “Approachable Leadership” is the only elevator that can lift employee morale, productivity, and retention. The button has been pressed and this elevator is about to up-up-up! But we're holding the door open for you, hoping that you'll join us at MondayMorningRadio.com

Lesley and Brad dive into an inspiring conversation with midlife health and fitness expert Heike Yates. They explore how to reignite your passions, overcome self-imposed limitations, and take action toward a fulfilling life. Learn how to stop over-researching and start doing, embrace change, and reclaim control over your future.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why midlife is the perfect time to rediscover what truly excites you.The importance of taking action instead of over-researching new interests.How to recognize and break free from limiting beliefs that hold you back.Using journaling as a tool to uncover your true desires and goals.How embracing failure can actually be the key to success.The power of surrounding yourself with the right people to support your growth.Why dimming your light for others is holding you back from your full potential.Episode References/Links:Ep. 472: Traci Peterson - https://beitpod.com/tracipetersonOne Voice L.A. - https://onevoice-la.orgIndivisible - https://indivisible.orgCambodia October 2025 Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.com Spring Pilates Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorAccessories Flashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlist If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  We start to go, I'm gonna research these different hobbies. I'm gonna try. And then we get overwhelmed in the researching of things, and not the doing of things. You're not gonna know if you like something. Just go do it. So just go, just jump in and go do it. Lesley Logan 0:13  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:55  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the revitalizing convo I had with Heike Yates in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened tothis interview, you should pause. Go listen to that one, or listen to this one, then listen to that one. Binge listen. They're so fun to listen to. Brad Crowell 1:11  Binge in.Lesley Logan 1:11  Yeah. Today is February 20th 2025 and it's World Day of Social Justice. World Day of Social Justice is observed annually on February 20th. Internationally, the world is plagued with unfortunate issues that prohibit millions of individuals from living a fair life. Many of the world's population, through no fault of their own, are deprived of basic facilities, such as homes, jobs, healthcare, education, nutrition, and more. It must be the responsibility of the privileged to ensure that we can create a just world where social justice is a norm. How can we contribute to a social justice around the world from where we live? So you know what loves? I think that if you listen to this podcast, you're similar to me and Brad, and you are aware of all the shit that is going on. And there's.Brad Crowell 1:53  Lots of it. Lesley Logan 1:54  Fuck ton of it. And it can feel overwhelming, and it could be hard not to know what to do. And then it can feel like, if you're championing one thing, that you're leaving other people behind. And I think it's one really important to note that it's absolutely okay if you care about one thing, and you can still have feeling and sadness and wish for something different somewhere else, but you can also make a massive change on one area and if you don't have the money to donate to the help of that, then your education and your expertise can also be donated. Your time can be donated. You can leverage the networks that you have, maybe work for a company, and you can ask them to do their next donation drive for something that you care about. There's change you can make. There is, gosh, one of my clients today was telling me that there's a charity organizational website where you can actually see what different charities are doing and see how they rank, as far as like, where their money goes. Brad Crowell 2:49  That's cool. Lesley Logan 2:49  And that is a great way to, if you don't have a lot of money to give to in justices to make sure that what you have can go the furthest. We, Brad and I, did a fundraiser for those who lost their jobs due to the wildfires in Los Angeles. And I know that's not the world and justice, but it's something that's pretty terrible for those people going through it. And the charity that we worked with, One Voice LA, 100% of your donations go to those who need it. You can actually go to onevoice-la I'm sure it's dot org. Brad Crowell 3:18  onevoice-la.orgLesley Logan 3:20  Yeah. So you can go there, but there's definitely websites that you can use to research charities you're thinking of donating to, your time to, money to or leverage. And so I highly recommend that, because I also know that you have a whole life to live, and we can't save people without making sure that you are also taking care of you.Brad Crowell 3:41  I just pulled up two organizations that help measure charities. (inaudible) One is called Charity Navigator. Lesley Logan 3:46  That's exactly what my artist is talking about. Shout out to Meredith Bender. Hi, babe. Brad Crowell 3:49  The other one is called up Metrics, where you can measure and maximize your nonprofits impact. So I think this one's actually not this one might be like the business itself is trying to measure its own impact, whereas Charity Navigator, it sounds like we assess the direct impact of a charity's program relative to the cost required to run it to help donors identify high impact charities. So, you know, like the age-old story of, oh, you get these things in the mail every year for the annual Turkey drive, and then you write them a check for 50 bucks, and they take 45 of it to run the company and get $5 to the thing. Hopefully there are no organizations that do that, but obviously there are. So, Charity Navigator. Interesting. Lesley Logan 4:27  So use that on this World Day of Social Justice. And also please remember that it is really hard to herd kittens and so there's a lot going on. Educate yourself. Stay educated, stay informed. But also give yourself permission to focus on one thing that you want to change. And also, call your congress person if you live in the United States. Brad Crowell 4:31  It's not only about money. It's not only about donating to charity. Social justice is also political, and it's about championing those who can't champion themselves, right? I mean to me, literally, goes all the way back to what my parents taught me about the kids in the playground. Why are people picking on other kids? Because they feel like they can for some reason, and standing up against bullies is one of the best possible ways to advocate on behalf of others. And we obviously have a lot of bullies happening in politics in the United States. Lesley Logan 5:20  There's bullies all over the world. Brad Crowell 5:22  And all over the world. Lesley Logan 5:23  And they only have the room to grow because we let them. So call your congress person. You can call them every day. Did you know that? Brad Crowell 5:31  You can call them every day. Lesley Logan 5:32  People do. Also get involved in your local things, because apparently not many people go to like local city council meetings. And so the loud assholes, the bullies win because there's no one else there. Indivisible.org. They send a lot of emails, not gonna lie. Brad Crowell 5:47  Indivisible.org. Lesley Logan 5:47  Yeah, indivisible. And you can find the city near you, and then they will help you see all the different groups you can join that are about the causes that you care about.Brad Crowell 5:56  I just signed up for their newsletter about my zip code. Lesley Logan 5:58  Yeah, oh. Brad Crowell 6:00  indivisible.orgLesley Logan 6:00  That's great. I didn't find that option, and now I'm just getting a lot of emails. Brad Crowell 6:04  Right on the homepage. Lesley Logan 6:05  So there you go. So this is why we need Brad. Okay, let's go through this really quick. We are, while you're listening to this, we are in Cambodia, and you can join us in October, because it's for sure too late now, we're already here.Brad Crowell 6:17  It's for sure too late, unless you live in Cambodia. Then come on over. Lesley Logan 6:20  Yeah, come on over. Come say hi. So go to crowsnestretreats.com to sign up for our October retreat. We really want you there. It's beautiful. It's amazing. We spend a week together at our home and it's a true retreat. Really special. Brad Crowell 6:32  Yeah. It's magic. Lesley Logan 6:33  When we come back, we'll be heading over to POT in Denver. Brad Crowell 6:36  Yeah, we're gonna drive through Utah, Arizona and Colorado to get there. Not sure about Arizona. We might go the north part. Lesley Logan 6:42  Yeah, we're not doing any pop ups, don't, so we're on vacation. Brad Crowell 6:45  Yeah, no pop ups but we are, we're gonna drive and we're going to be there in the area for the whole event. We're excited about it. It's gonna be awesome. Lesley Logan 6:52  I've got some great workshops at it. So you can definitely still sign up. Brad Crowell 6:55  I'll be hanging out the merch booth. Lesley Logan 6:56  I know that they were almost sold out the last time I got a numbers count. So don't wait. Brad Crowell 7:00  Crazy, right?Lesley Logan 7:01  Then in April 27th through May 3rd, we have spring training, spring Pilates training, you guys. Brad Crowell 7:07  That's right from OPC. Go to opc.me/events. That will put you on the waitlist to find out about spring training. What is it going to be? Really quick. Go.Lesley Logan 7:16  Oh, it's all the OPC teachers and me teaching mat, reformer, a tower and a Wunda chair. You'll be able to buy a mat only ticket or an equipment plus mat ticket. So if you don't have access to the equipment, there'll be plenty of classes for you on just the mat. There are going to be all different levels, all different body types. And we're focused on one theme, and to find out what that theme is you got to go to opc.me/events and sign up, because I got to break the news to them first. Can't, that's worth, that's what we said. Brad Crowell 7:40  All right, if you are taking money to teach a client, if you are personally getting paid by the client, then you run your own business. Congratulations. Or if you have a home studio or a brick and mortar, I want you to come join me for a free webinar called the growth accelerator. We're gonna cover three big secrets that Lesley and I have put together after coaching more than 2500 businesses just like yours over the past seven years with our agency coaching program. Come join me for this webinar, prfit.biz/accelerator. That's prfit.biz or profit without the O slash accelerator, and join me for free. Finally, last up, we have the Accessories Deck, the Accessories Flash Card Deck with OPC. It is the sixth and final deck. We are so close to being done. I know that the first draft is done. It's being reviewed right now. Lesley Logan 8:27  This is the first Cambodia trip in years that I'm not writing a flash card on. Brad Crowell 8:31  That's so crazy. Lesley Logan 8:32  I know. What am I doing with my time? You guys. Brad Crowell 8:35  Oh, we're gonna do other things with your time. Lesley Logan 8:36  I have other things to write. I have blogs to write. I have a bot to edit. There's plenty for me to do.Brad Crowell 8:43  There's plenty to do but that's not what we're talking about. For the Accessories Deck. You know, we already did the photo shoot. It's looking really good. Lesley and I literally got a chance to meet the people who produce our flash cards when we were on tour. Lesley Logan 8:55  That was so cool. Brad Crowell 8:56  It was really lovely. We didn't actually get a chance to film anything because the entire place was closed for the holidays. So next time, I don't know if we'll ever be there when we're not there for the holidays, but one day, I would like to actually go see the operations. Let their team show us all these crazy machines that they use to make these flash cards. I'm fascinated by the process. Anyway, we're stoked to produce the sixth deck with them as well. We'll be dropping the presale really soon. So go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist opc.me/flashcardwaitlist. Get yourself on the wait list. You will be the only people getting a 30% off offer on this final deck. So don't wait on that. Before we move on. We had a question.Lesley Logan 9:37  From YouTube. Brad Crowell 9:38  Okay, jasminesaif183 says hi, Lesley, would you say you teach classical Pilates, and if we wanted to learn the real Pilates, is there a playlist we can follow on your channel?Lesley Logan 9:52  Yeah, so I do teach classical Pilates. That's what I would consider I teach, and anything on my channel is classical. So there's no need to make a playlist, because everything is what I will learn from Jay Grimes, who studied with Joe Pilates, what I learned from the Taylor sisters who studied with Romana. So I am a classical teacher, and so you're good to go with anything there. We do have playlists that are like the mat or by equipment, but I'm not gonna create a playlist that's just because that would be the whole YouTube channel. Brad Crowell 10:24  Yeah, yeah. So. Lesley Logan 10:26  I also just want to say, in case, because she wrote real Pilates in here.Brad Crowell 10:29  I was gonna ask you to address that. Lesley Logan 10:31  I refuse to get involved in a conversation about what's real Pilates and what's not real Pilates. I won't do that because.Brad Crowell 10:38  Unless it's not Pilates in the least. Lesley Logan 10:40  Unless it's not Pilates in the least. Like a Megaformer. There might be some moves that are Pilates esque, but you I can't from their website 10 years ago. I cannot teach Pilates moves on a Megaformer and they cannot teach their moves on a regular reformer. It was from. Brad Crowell 10:53  That's clearly not Pilates. Lesley Logan 10:55  Yeah. So, so that being said, they might be telling people that's what they're doing. They might be telling their teachers or their trainers that's what they're doing. And I don't ever want to be the person who busts anyone's bubbles. So here's the deal. There's a lot of different Pilates styles out there, and most of them are all real Pilates. Now I teach what Joseph Pilates created with his intentions. Brad Crowell 11:14  From the book that he wrote. Lesley Logan 11:15  Yeah, from his book and from his teachings of his client, and I do the best I can to uphold what that purpose is. And if you were trained in a different way and you want to learn what I'm doing, great if you're training a different way and you don't want to learn the way I'm doing it, great. This world is a place where you get to. Brad Crowell 11:32  You do you, baby.Lesley Logan 11:33  You do you and you don't even have to explain it to me. I have no judgment, but I think it's really important to not get bogged down by the semantics of it, but there are styles, just like in yoga, there's yoga styles, and so if you find a style you like, keep going. Brad Crowell 11:48  Yeah, I agree. All right, y'all. Stick around we'll be right back. We're gonna dig into this fantastic convo that Lesley had with Heike Yates. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 11:57  Okay, welcome back. Now, let's talk about Heike Yates. Heike Yates is a midlife health and fitness expert with over 35 years of experience, and she's the host of the pursue your spark podcast with a rich background as a seasoned Pilates coach and former Ironman triathlete, Heike is dedicated to helping women in midlife build strength, confidence in health. Through her podcast and coaching, she empowers women to embrace new possibilities, overcome challenges and lead vibrant, fulfilling lives, and she's working on a book and everything. It was really fascinating to listen to her share her story about how she was not raised in a society that intentionally worked out, meaning, I'm gonna block off one hour and go work out. Because where she was raised in Germany, your life was a workout. You were walking everywhere. You were hiking up and down mountains. You were doing all this stuff, because that's she you did. And then she said, when she got pregnant, her body obviously went through a dramatic change, and she gained 50 pounds, and then had no idea how to lose that. And so that is what took her down this path. And I feel like there's a generational thing there, too, for sure, she got into all the different things, and she went down all these different modalities over the decades, which I thought was really amazing.Lesley Logan 13:13  Yeah, I also like that she's really inspired to help women find their spark again. So it's not just about the movement of it, which I think for women in midlife, I don't know why it feels old. It feels like we're making it worse. Brad Crowell 13:25  Well, I think the reason. Lesley Logan 13:26  Because I'm 42. I'm not at midlife, when's midlife?Brad Crowell 13:29  Well, I think the reason that she's not saying pre post menopause is because it pigeon holes her into talking only about menopause. And you know, when she was talking about her book, she said, yes, some of the publishers were coming to me and saying, like, great, you're a menopause author, and she's like, but I'm not, you know, so I think she's using midlife to encompass a little bit of a wider audience there.Lesley Logan 13:30  Yeah. So I really was drawn to more what she was talking about women in midlife and having lost touch with their true desires. I also think because, again, you brought up generations, I think that my friends today have had more people tell them to know what their goals are and what they want outside of being a parent. And I think 10 plus years women older than us, like it was, you're a mom, that's what you did, and it was really weird if you were more than that, if you did anything else. So I do think that it's necessary to talk with those women about how to figure out that it's because also our desires change, and so you might have known what they were before, but then life happens. You go through and the things that brought you joy don't bring your joy the same way they do, and you have to have new desires, right? So I really want to say that she encouraged listeners to look not at what you can't do, but what possibilities are there. Focus on what is possible. You know, we talk about that all the time at OPC, so you know, I'm gonna love that Brad Crowell 13:50  Sure. Lesley Logan 13:52  She also said, if you don't try anything, you will never find what it is that lights you up. Brad Crowell 14:38  So take messy action. Lesley Logan 14:45  Yeah and I thought that was fun, because I think we start to go, I gotta research these different hobbies. I'm gonna try. And then we get overwhelmed in the researching of things, and not the doing of things. You're not gonna know if you like something. Let's just go do it. So just go, just jump in and go do it.Brad Crowell 15:00  Yeah. And one thing I found like a through line, and she didn't explicitly say this, but she did explicitly say, when you're trying to understand your goals, don't listen to what other people tell you that your goals should be. You need to find your goals yourself. And she kind of said it and then brought it back up again later on in the conversation. And so, you know, she encouraged honesty about our own desires, saying, when we look at ourselves, we've got to be honest about what we want, right? And then you asked, hey, what if you don't know what you want? Because you were talking about the retreat in Cambodia where you're like, hey, what does a year from now look like? And then people got they found that as a roadblock. They couldn't do the exercise because, like, I don't know what I want to be in a year, right? And so you asked her, What happens if you hit that hurdle yourself? And she said, You need to start journaling and paying attention to the desires that you have during your journaling. But ultimately, that still lends itself directly back to knowing your goals, your desires, not letting other people define your goals for you. I thought that was really important. I also think it's hard. I think it's really hard, especially when we feel boxed in by the life that we have today. Maybe your goal was something that is just literally not even possible because you have a job that keeps you in one place all the time, and you can't travel, you can't leave, or, I don't know, you have young kids that demand a lot of time, and now you have to wait to accomplish your goal. So I think that it's hard to decide what our goals can be, that we're willing to let ourselves pursue without knowing that it will fail because of the boxes that we live in, right?Lesley Logan 16:38  Yeah. I also think that we if we fail, then it wasn't worth doing, or we weren't deserving of it, or whatever and it's like.Brad Crowell 16:43  Then we feel guilty because we let ourselves down or something. Lesley Logan 16:46  I mean, how many times did someone fill the light bulb? A lot. And now if we fucking stop, we wouldn't have had light as soon as we did. So.Brad Crowell 16:55  Yeah and she did talk about failure, too. She said it's not failure. It's just, you know, it's the next step. It's the next baby step. She pointed out that many women feel stuck. They're either waiting for an answer to appear from the universe, or they're scared to fail, right? And her advice was, don't sit there frozen. Take action. Don't wait. It's okay to fail because we never actually do. It's something. We try something, we might not like it and then it's okay to change and shift your goal and reclaim control of your life. So she said, take action, and that's going to be the thing that moves you forward. And you know how much we're all about messy action. So, yeah. I think she's just also very kind. Lesley Logan 17:34  Yeah, she's got spunk to her. I really like it. Brad Crowell 17:37  Yeah, I think as a coach, she's just very warm, you know, all around as good vibes. All right, well stick around, because we do have some,Be It Action Items from Heike. We're going to find out about those in just a second. Brad Crowell 17:49  All right, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Heike Yates? To find what lights you up, start journaling. I did briefly mention this before. She said write down your thoughts. Start thinking about the things that maybe you're envying your friends for which I thought that's interesting. Normally, I was raised where, like, don't be jealous, don't feel envy. And she's actually saying not that you should tap into that and lean into that, but understand what's happening. Notice that. What is it that you're feeling that about? Write it down and then say, I want what she has, whatever that is, and give yourself the permission to say, to be honest, I want that. Look around for inspiration. Ask yourself, what are my friends doing? What do they do? Try activities that they enjoy or explore something new for yourself. She said, even if you don't know what you want, trying anything helps you discover what lights you up and what you don't like, which helps you narrow down what you do. Yeah.Lesley Logan 18:47  Yeah. I love she had so many great Be It Action Items, and so I also want to highlight that she said stop dimming your light and move on and enjoy life. And I love this, because often, as women, we were raised, you're too loud, you're too bossy, you're too this. We talked about this with Tracy Peterson, like you're too bossy, you're too this, you're too, like, all these things that actually people telling you that it's like a little thing where they're saying, turn your light down. It's too much. And actually, Heike is saying it's bold to keep your light on, move on and enjoy your life. And I think that that is the best thing we can do, because we're not going to keep everyone with us all the time. We're just not. And so dimming your light to stay in the box that other people want you in, it'd be a real shame, and that is not what you're trying to do when you're trying to be it till you see it. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 19:32  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 19:33  Please make sure you share your takeaways with Heike, the Be It Pod. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it. Share this with one of your midlife friends who needs to hear someone kind telling them things that might feel very familiar to them, and helping them enjoy their life more and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 19:46  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 19:48  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 20:30  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 20:35  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 20:40  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 20:47  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 20:50  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Even if Pilates isn't your jam, its skyrocketing popularity should grab your attention. The global Pilates industry was $178 billion in 2024. By 2031, it's projected to reach $392 billion.     Get an overview of the opportunities and issues in this thriving sector with Coach Catherine Hebb and Coach Cara Hazelton in Episode 643: The State of the Pilates Industry.   Know the OG: learn how Joseph Pilates conceived this unique movement method Respect the nuances: recognize classical or contemporary training approaches Acknowledge the risks: realize potential concerns in this unregulated industry  Stay in your lane: stick to your scope of practice and refer as necessary  Invest in education: continue your training to expand your expertise   Y'all, with comprehensive education and unwavering integrity, our industry can help Pilates eventually be seen as an allied health profession. Your first step begins with Episode 643.    Catch you there,   Lise   PS: Join 2,000+ studio owners who've decided to take control of their studio business and build their freedom empire. Subscribe HERE and join the party! www.studiogrow.co www.linkedin.com/company/studio-growco/  

Despite being around for nearly 100 years, pilates has never been so popular.  As previously reported by Glossy, search volume for “pilates” was at an all-time high in January 2004, with small yearly spikes each January since. It wasn't until 2022 that search numbers topped those 2004 numbers before hitting an all-time in January 2023 and then again in January of 2024.  However, searches have already topped 2024 numbers during the first week of the new year, according to Google Trends. The highest search numbers are coming from Australia, Singapore, New Zealand and the U.K. The U.S. ranks ninth for searches so far this year.  Pilates is a low-impact strength and mobility training practice designed by Joseph Pilates in 1920s Europe to rehab injured WWI veterans. He developed its tenets on a machine crafted from bed springs and wooden boards, which later inspired the "reformer," a machine with straps and springs that's been evolved many times over for pilates practices today. Pilates is also taught on a yoga mat using hand weights, stretchy bands and other props.  Partially fueled by celebrity devotees like Hailey Bieber and Kendall Jenner, and propelled by viral fashion trends like 2024's #PinkPilatesPrincess, the exercise modality shows no signs of slowing in 2025.  It's something that Australia-based Emma Stallworthy is betting on with 4-year-old pilates rental and digital class subscription company Your Reformer. The company is well-known in Australia and New Zealand markets and, as of September, has officially expanded to the U.S. with its signature $39-per-week in-home reformer bed rentals. They come with more than 800 high-quality training videos on a corresponding app. The company also sells its reformer beds to consumers as well as studios, gyms and hotels. Your Reformer is fully bootstrapped by Stallworthy and her husband and co-founder Ben. The duo started as gym owners in Melbourne. After renting out their gyms' reformer beds during the pandemic, thy sold their gyms and doubled down on this new business. Emma is also a pilates instructor. The company has nearly no competition for reformer rentals. Leaders in the space selling or financing equipment include Stott Pilates, Balanced Body and Merrithew. Your Reformer beds sell for around $2,500, while the reformer bed prices of the aforementioned manufacturers start at around $5,000. Outside of the rentals, the company's reformer sales and corresponding digital classes mak up a unique business model that is best compared to Peloton stationary bikes. Peloton gained massive popularity during the pandemic but later experienced financial distress that led to cuts and the replacement of its CEO in 2024, as reported by CFO Drive.  Stallworthy joined the Glossy Beauty Podcast to discuss the company's growth and expansion to the U.S. in September, the secret sauce behind growing its digital class subscriptions, its beauty and wellness partnerships, and the overall rise of autonomous pilates classes.

This episode takes us into the weekly astrology energetics of November 18th - 24th, 2024. This week is a big deal. The weird we've been feeling continues and brings a completely different way of thinking to the collective, and therefore to our lives as Pluto finally, officially moves into Aquarius. Monday, November 18th: -

Tom Paladino, a scalar energy researcher who dedicated over 50 years to studying zero-point energy, shared insights on the healing potential of scalar light. He explained how this nonphysical energy can promote well-being, reduce disease signatures, and enhance health through unique methods such as using photographs for quantum healing. Tune in to learn more about how scalar energy can improve your health.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:What scalar energy is and how it differs from electromagnetic energy.How scalar energy can promote overall health and wellness.Tom's technique using photographs to transmit healing energy.How Tom stays motivated and confident in his unique approach.Tom's personal health routines that support his longevity and vitality.Episode References/Links:Scalar Light FacebookScalar LightDr. Mindy PelzGuest Bio:Tom Paladino was a dedicated researcher in the field of scalar energy for over 50 years. Inspired by Nikola Tesla and Dr. T. Galen Hieronymus, Paladino developed scalar light instruments aimed at promoting health and balancing energy fields by working with photographs. His work focused on utilizing scalar light to target pathogens, promote healing, and harmonize brain waves and chakras. 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It's a new way of wellness in which there's no physical downside, there's no chemical reaction.Lesley Logan 0:16  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 0:57  All right, Be It babe, I have something you've never heard of before. I'm pretty sure. And it was (inaudible) something I hadn't heard of before. And there were a couple of reasons why I wanted to have our guest today on the pod. One, I find unique things interesting. And who am I to maybe this is the thing that you've always been needing to help you be it till you see it. The other thing, the other reason why, is I find when people are doing something new and different and going out of the box, very fascinating, kind of interesting, I find it like, how are they doing that? Because we live in a world that's like, let's be a tulip. Don't get taller than all the other ones, and don't constantly in the coaching world that I've been in, it's like, you don't actually want to be doing something new. You want to be doing something that's already been done before, which I find is really dumb and annoying. So I really was intrigued when I met our guest, is Tom Paladino, and the work he is doing, and it's all about energy and some healing powers. And then we also got into how he's been able to maintain his stamina and passion around something that no one's really heard of. So I think you'll find it very fascinating. And if you do use his amazing work, please let us know. We'd love to know how it's going to go out for you. And also, if you're like, yeah, I don't know about this, I still think you're going to get something so well, actually, I know, I know you're getting something so good about this, because just being around people who are freaking passionate about what they do is actually like, I am on a high just having talked with him, not having used the service yet, just having just talked to him because most of us are just around people who don't believe in themselves. And so then you walk around with that energy around you. And so listen to this guy, just for the fact of the pure passion and enthusiasm that he has about what he does. And then, if you like what he's doing, take a look at it. Also, I liked his be it action items, they're in a way, simple and yet so difficult for us to do and so I can't wait to see how you use them in your life. Here is Tom Paladino. Lesley Logan 3:00  All right, Be It babe, I promise you, today's guest is the first you've ever heard of this, and I know it's the first I've ever heard of this. And I'm really excited to dive in deeper, because I find it fascinating, intriguing, interesting, wondering, curious. So Tom Paladino is our guest today. He's a researcher. He's amazing. He's figured out some amazing things he's been doing for a really long time. Tom tell everyone who you are and what you rock at. Tom Paladino 3:23  Thank you for the invite. First of all, listen, thank you. I'm a researcher. I'm a scalar light researcher, what some people might call zero point energy or Tesla energy. What distinguishes my work is I do not work with electricity. Most researchers today are working with electricity magnetism, electromagnetic energy. Well, there's two energies I'd rather work with, scalar energy. It's quite superior to that of electricity. So we're going to speak about scalar energy testing. Lesley Logan 3:50  Okay, so I know electromagnetic energy. That one I've got. Some of the other words you said. I don't know. So scalar is the type of energy you work with, but is there a way of explaining it to me?Tom Paladino 4:02  Let's define our terms. Scalar. Energy is nonphysical divine energy. I believe it's from God. It's not a movement of electrons. Electricity is some type of movement of electrons. So we're working with consciousness. We're working with what some people might call intuition or intention. We're working with nonphysical thought. So the instrument behind me is a scalar energy instrument that taps into that dimension of nonphysicality. It's indeed a different dimension. This is the dimension beyond the space time construct. This is the energy that some people might call the ohm, or Christ-consciousness or chi or prana. It's very real.Lesley Logan 4:46  Okay, yes, I love that you brought up intuition and intention. I feel like those are, you know, less woo. But I guess we need to go back and how did you even discover that this energy exists? And how did you figure it out? Because I feel like there's a good story there, and also maybe can help us understand just how real this is. You know?Tom Paladino 5:06  I studied Nikola Tesla as a youngster, and Tesla, later in his life, was working with this energy, what he called radiant energy. Tesla said frequently he wanted to harness the sun, not harness a motor, harness sun, and that's what I'm doing. These instruments harness the energy from the sun. So Tesla was my first teacher. Thereafter, I was very fortunate to meet an American inventor, Sarah Hieronymus, and I never met her late husband, Galen Hieronymus, but they were scalar energy inventors who had scalar energy instruments who could prove that they could control this energy of the sun. So that was my understudy, and if you will, this is not taught by academia. This is so groundbreaking, so cutting edge, you're not going to find a college textbook on this. So that was my, if you will, my backstory. That was my background. I have been pursuing this independent research my entire life. It's been well worth it, because the, if you will, the payback, the dividends are so incredible to be realized from this energy. We'll explore some of those benefits today. Lesley Logan 5:06  Yeah. Okay, so thank you for that. How long have you been doing this? Because you said that was your first teacher. So how many years has this been and then what are the benefits you saw in doing it?Tom Paladino 6:23  I've been at this for 50 years, my entire life. The benefits that I've derived is I have been (inaudible) exceptional health. I am 64 years of age, and I don't take any medicine. There is I don't take any pharmaceutical problem. I do not need any medical surgery. And part of that reason is because I'm working with myself every day with this energy. This energy is my healthcare regimen. We'll get into that. How have I benefited? This instrument, if you will, prevents many diseases. This instrument, I believe, has given me a great nutritional background, a great nutritional support by way of energy, I receive my vitamins from this instrument by way of energy. This instrument allows me to target the force field of microbes, germs, and eradicate those microbes, those germs. So those just are some of the benefits that can be derived from this, what I call quantum healing. It's not physical. We'll get into that. This is all informational. Remember, all of my work is nonphysical.Lesley Logan 7:31  Right. So some of this, like, I can totally grasp, because I was just listening to Mindy Pelz, who's a scientist on fasting, and she was talking about inflammation, and what are the top reasons we have inflammation. And one of the things that she said was negative people. She said negative people cause inflammation, chronic inflammation in your body. So I was like going with that thought, this makes sense. How you protect the energy around you can definitely protect you from illnesses, diseases, things like that, and also needing surgeries or needing nutrition, because if you can protect the negative energy, if you can put a force build-up, or if you can just keep yourself around, not so negative, draining people, like, that can be helpful. So you've been doing this for 50 years. You don't look 64 so if you're not watching on YouTube, guys, you could check that out. When did you start? I guess like you've been doing this for 50 years. I'm sure you've come across people who are total doubters, and I'm sure there are people who are intrigued and they're going to keep listening. But what about the people who are like, I don't know, guys. How do people who maybe are skeptical or doubtful, how can we make them understand what you're doing in a way that doesn't make them feel like it's a double woo?Tom Paladino 8:39  I work with scientific instruments. Those instruments follow the laws of science. There cannot be any complicity with the laws of science. The laws of science are immutable. This is a scalar light instrument behind me. To demonstrate, it's pulsing right now. This instrument gives off so much power, to demonstrate, I can illuminate a light bulb in my hand, the scaler (inaudible).Lesley Logan 9:05  Oh, wow. You guys, if you're, those who are listening, he just lit, like, the light bulb's not in he's just holding it.Tom Paladino 9:09  So, that's evidence that this instrument is broadcasting some type of energy. We're in a different energy spectrum, a scalar energy spectrum, that, if you will, proves that free energy can light up a light bulb. Now, if I can light up a light bulb, then I can light up a person's aura, their force field. And that's what I'm doing. I don't want to light up a person's light bulb. I want to light up a person's aura, their energy field. That's what this instrument can achieve. Again, it's not flesh and blood. We're not working with people. We're working with the aura or the energy field of a person. Lesley Logan 9:46  Yeah, I, okay. That makes a lot of sense to me. And also, in taking myself back to when I was a little girl on a school bus, you and your friends would have your palms up, and they'd have their palms over, and you could, like, kind of, do you know what I mean? You can, kind of, like, get your hands closed and you're like, oh, I feel your aura. Like.Tom Paladino 10:00  That's it. That's it.Lesley Logan 10:01  Okay, okay, perfect. So I felt that. I understand that. So you're doing research, you're in science, you're seeing the benefits in yourself. How did you start to even understand that you could help other people? Is it because of the apprentice scene? How did it come about?Tom Paladino 10:14  Yeah, very good. Well, my apprenticeship with the Hieronymus family was just incredible. They taught me scalar energy. Again, keep in mind there might be five scalar energy engineers in the world who've ever developed instruments like this that can produce human quantum improvement health benefits. Okay, so going back to 1993, I met this family, the Hieronymus family, and they brought me into their laboratory, and they showed me what they were doing. I was awestruck. It works. Well, my predecessor, Hieronymus, was so famous at one time he was working with NASA and the FDA and other government agencies because they saw the merit of his work. Why? He was a scientist and he follows the laws of science. So there's no woo-woo here, because the laws of science cannot be changed. You cannot in any way interrupt the laws of science. That's why we have scientific instruments. That's the key to our work. So we can duplicate our work. Lesley Logan 11:18  Do we, so in order for us to benefit from scalar light work, scalar energy work, do we have to have these tools, or do we have to work with someone who's trained? And there's like five of you.Tom Paladino 11:30  That's, that's the sad part about it and I don't know why there's only a few scalar light scientists with scalar light instruments like myself. I am trying to promulgate this science. I'm an open book. I don't want this to be arcane, but sadly, very few people have followed up, as I have. It takes a lot of work. I don't blame people. And there's no paycheck in the present moment. There's no remuneration. So to answer your question, yeah, there's about five of us on the planet right now that I know of that have scalar light instruments.Lesley Logan 12:02  Okay. And so I think where I'm now really intrigued is because this is Be It Till You See It. How have you been able to continue to show up every day with this belief of something where there's only five of you with instruments, you know, that's gotta feel like people listening, gotta be like this. Gotta be an uphill battle to show up every, you know what I mean? How have you been able to be it till you see it to show up with this? Because I think so many people would just almost give up. You know? It's hard.Tom Paladino 12:29  I'm not a quitter. I don't give up. I see the merit and the people who've been with me for years, and we have many followers, they understand and they feel better. That's the key. Now, to be very clear, this cannot be proven by present-day academia, by science. Nobody's duplicated my instrument. Nobody's duplicated my work. My instrument is unique. That's why I'm saying there's probably only five people like myself that have my type of instrument, and most of them have followed in the footsteps of my predecessor, Galen Hieronymus. So it's a very narrow field, I admit to that, but I have confidence that this will catch on someday. I have confidence that someday people will see the merit. I have confidence that this will gain a mass audience someday. That day is coming. Lesley Logan 13:17  Yes, so is there like pep talks that you give yourself? You know what I mean? Because here's the deal, I'm a Pilates instructor, which people know the word Pilates, and then also, in the world, there's a bunch of different variations. The way I teach, there's only so many of us who have actually been trained in the way that I teach, and it's by Joseph Pilates. So I totally follow the idea of understanding like, when you're with the source and you're the closest, and there's only a few of you, sometimes I can feel like, oh my gosh, everyone keeps saying, I do reformer Pilates. I'm like, there's no such thing, that's just Pilates on a reformer. I can find myself wanting to, like, hit my head against the wall. What do you tell yourself each day to keep going, to make this something that you're so passionate about, to continue the passion because the middle is so hard.Tom Paladino 13:56  You're right, and to put this into a common day experience, it's the reason why people get up and go to school and work a job and have a marriage or have kids or have goals, etc. You believe in yourself. I believe in myself. If this was not rendering great results, I'd say well, I made a mistake. I have to do something else. No, it's rendering wonderful results. I believe in myself. Our subscribers believe in us. But we haven't hit that point, that tipping point, where it's mainstream. When will it become mainstream? I don't know. Only God knows. That's a great point. You have to believe in yourself. And I'm sure your audience, they've come up, they've had this, if you will, this crossroads in their life, in which it depends, but what crossroad you want to take? I believe in myself. So I'm going to teach you to do this until the day I die.Lesley Logan 14:50  So then did your parents just phrase you to believe in yourself? Has it always been easy? What would you tell someone who doesn't? Like people who (inaudible) out so much that they can't believe that they were given a gift. You have this gift and you believe you have this gift. And I that's what I think is so cool about you. It's so rare that someone just like totally believes even when they're coming, they've seen the results, they have the research, they've done all this stuff, but it hasn't hit that tipping point yet, right? Like whatever Seth Godin says, I think it's called the tipping point. There are people who are listening where their self-doubt is so, is stronger than anything that they, because that's how they've always lived. And I guess I'm just curious how you believe in yourself so well. Tom Paladino 15:32  Believe in God, believe in yourself. Have goals, have objectives. I believe in God. I believe in myself. Don't listen to the negativity of the role. I've had some snide comments. I don't lose sleep over them. I don't listen to them. It's a waste of time, people. If you follow your purpose in life, that's it. Remove all of those extraneous noise. It doesn't matter.Lesley Logan 15:57  Yeah, yeah. I think that's the voices that you've made up in your head or the ones that are on repeat from a family member you don't even talk to, or it's being distracted by the other people who are trying to put their stuff on you. That's such a good thing. Okay, so let's get into more of this together. Like, how can people, how do people know they need it?Tom Paladino 16:16  Okay, everybody needs it, whether everybody realizes that or not. Why? It improves your force field regardless. Energy from the sun, this divine energy, will always enhance the human condition. Now I have no medical problems. I'm 64 years of age. I'm not on one pharmaceutical product. I still treat myself every day. What am I getting at? This is nonphysical. Hence it's nonchemical. Listen carefully to what I'm about to say. I don't work with people, which would be a physical treatment. I don't work with the biochemical person. I work with people through their photograph. This is my photograph. If somebody sends me a photograph, I simply print it out on the piece of paper and I placed the photograph inside the instrument. Now, what's the point? That photograph, my photograph now, is experiencing a scaler energy force field. I feel that. If I can light up a light bulb, then I can light up my chakras on that photograph. That's what's happening right now. I know I'm rather sensitive, and I could feel that, that energy now tingling in my brain, in my mind. I can feel that, if you will, as I'm treating myself through my photographic force field. This is a new science. Has nothing to do with Newtonian science. This is a new science, quantum science, in which we access a person's aura, their force field, through their photograph. It's a new way of wellness in which there's no physical downside, there's no chemical reaction. It's information and people do not come to my lab. They send their photographic double. That's right.Lesley Logan 18:00  That's kind of, I mean, that's kind of nice, right? Tom Paladino 18:02  Thank you. I can be in two places at once through a scanner and G-force field, in which I never work with people. The instruments are not designed to work with people. Their instruments are designed to work with a force field, which is their Bilocated version. Lesley Logan 18:16  Yeah. This is, okay, so of course, there's a part of me going, oh, my God, can someone do voodoo on my photo? I'm not you, but like.Tom Paladino 18:25  You know, that's a good point. Now, that gives credence to the point that some people in the occult claim that they could take a photograph put a hex on the photograph. Now, that's not my line, I think. But is there a connection to a photograph to a person's force field? Yes, that, my photograph carries my soul, mind and body. My blood type is on that photograph, my eye color is on that photograph, my background, my genetic background, is on that photograph, a photograph light energy carries our makeup, my makeup as a human being is on that photograph. Lesley Logan 19:02  Okay, as someone whose photograph is taken all the time, this is a very (inaudible) to me. Okay, so the, the next thing is, what's really nice about this is it's not another appointment I have to make, which is great. For the busy person listening, you can go be it till you see it without having to make an appointment. But I guess then, my next question is, like, do you need to know why I want the scalar light energy work? Or your don't even need to know what the things are. Do you have to know like, oh, I think I have the flu. Or is it just like, we put it in there and your machines do the work without needing to know what they're working on?Tom Paladino 19:34  On balance, the instrument does the work without any diagnosis. Now that's a good point. I do not diagnose. This is not a medical device. I don't want to claim that I'm diagnosing that's for the medical field, which is wonderful. Remember, I work with the aura, a force field. There's no hospital in the world that works with your scalar energy aura. So what's the point? You simply send me, email me your photograph. Here's a collage. Every day, I'll print out a collage, thousands of photographs, and I place them inside the instrument, and the instrument will ascertain what health challenges you have and start negating those health challenges. In other words, disease appears as a signature, as a some type of code, a scalar energy instrument, can find a disease signature and eliminate the code. Eliminate the signature. It's much like turning on a light bulb and having light and turning off a light bulb and you have no illumination. What's the point? If disease is some type of skin energy signature. I turn off the signature of scalarlight. I negate the scalar light signature of disease.Lesley Logan 20:48  How do you prioritize yourself in all of this? Because I can tell you care so much about what you do, and I have a lot of women who listen, who are so passionate about the things that they do that they actually don't take care of themselves anymore. You clearly do because you have no issues or diseases or lack of energy. We can tell that. So how are you prioritizing yourself in trying to make your goals happen?Tom Paladino 21:10  Every day, I start the day with prayer. I've got a great wife. She mandates that I have a super diet, that I have a logical diet. We don't overeat. I exercise frequently. I pray frequently. I am happy. I'd rather be gregarious than negative. So that is part of my lifestyle. The guy you see on this TV on the video screen is 64 years of age, without any complications, and I never has been on one medication ever in my life. Why? Well, it's because of my lifestyle. It's because of scaler.Lesley Logan 21:43  So if I were to send in my photo, would I know when you were working on it? Would I just feel different? How would I know that this works?Tom Paladino 21:51  That's a good point. People will send me their photograph, and they'll say, Tom, can you help? I have, I have Epstein–Barr. Now again, it's always by way of a photograph. So I'll take a person's photograph, and with this technique that I've developed, I'm able to take a magnified photograph of Epstein-Barr and have the two photographs communicate. I'm holding in my hand a photograph of Epstein–Barr. And what's the point? These two force fields communicate. And after they communicate, if I have in my aura, in my photographic force field, Epstein–Barr, the instrument will negate the force field of Epstein–Barr, will eradicate, remove, disassemble, Epstein-Barr. Now, after I do that, people tell me they no longer have symptoms of Epstein–Barr or some people will have a PCR test. Here's one test in particular. After I work with this person, their PCR test is not detected, no viral load, so I have to rely upon people. But our testimonies are stupendous. People from around the world tell me that they feel better. Now, I don't know anybody who who can show a track record, as I have, with thousands of people around the world, different lifestyles, different backgrounds, but essentially, all of them feel better, and I've never met them. How is that possible? It's not human ingenuity. There's no human diagnosis. It's simply the energy correcting the disease signature. You see the chemical level, the disease already manifests. Why not go to the signal, to the signature, before the disease manifests? It's so much easier at the level of cause than working at the level of effect. Which the biological level.Lesley Logan 23:38  Yeah, I understand that, because sometimes we take medications that help with just the symptom, but don't actually get to the root of the problem. You know, like yesterday, I was sneezing and I was on a call, and I was like, oh my god, I can't stop sneezing. So I took this allergy spray that I and I was like, okay, now I'm not sneezing, but it doesn't solve the problem of the sneeze in the first place. What is in my office that is causing me to sneeze. So if that, correct me, if I'm wrong, but that's what you're saying. What you're trying to do is like before you're trying to take care at the aura level, at the top level, versus all the way down, just like at the symptoms of the problem.Tom Paladino 24:14  Yes, thank you. The sneeze is the manifestation. The runny nose is the manifestation. What if we can tell this instrument to look for the energy field of a virus, the influenza virus, and negate it, remove it. That makes much more sense than worrying about the symptoms. I don't work at the symptom level of symptoms. I work at the causal level.Lesley Logan 24:36  Yeah. So, okay, so it's really cool. This is just, I'm just, observations. I think it's fascinating. A lot of times when I hear some unique ways of healing, they're kind of anti-science or anti-medical, but you are taking the medical diagnosis that someone gets from someone else, and you're using that on a different level. And I think that's really (inaudible) because, oviously, Western medicine has its perks. Sometimes, like something's wrong, you need the diagnosis. So this is really fascinating. What if I don't have a diagnosis yet? What if I just don't feel good and no ones's able to figure it out? Can the scalar light stuff help?Tom Paladino 25:16  Yes, it can. I'll give you a for instance, for the past five months, I've rolled out a new program I've worked with over 100 people who had cancer, 100 people, and most of those people after the past four or five months are in remission. Now I don't claim to be a cancer specialist. What I claim is that this instrument can pick out the force field of cancer in a tumor, and negate it, shut off the tumor, shut off the cancer, negate the signature cancer or tumor. That's my claim.Lesley Logan 25:49  Is it your hope that people would use this before they need it? Or is it, once they have the diagnosis, do they still go to the doctor while you're working with their aura? What's your favorite combination?Tom Paladino 26:01  Yeah, that's a proper term. I'm working with their aura, their force field, and it is preventative. Now, keep in mind, I get a yearly checkup. Doctor says you're fine. I have not one medical issue. Now, why? My wife has not one medical issue? What's the point here? We're not on any meds, because we take care of ourselves, but we're on scalar, which is preventative. I'll make this bold statement, as long as this instrument is working, functioning properly, I declare I'll never develop cancer in my life. That's my declaration, because I can identify a cancer signature and negate it. So it's in my case. I'll speak for my, it's my testimony. It's my body. It's preventative. I have 3000, 4000 testimonies on our website that speak of other people's testimony. To be clear, this cannot be reproduced. Nobody's ever reproduced by work. This instrument, my laboratory, is unique, and until somebody reproduces my work, then I I have to rely upon testimonies.Lesley Logan 27:04  Yeah. And also it's like, partly, if someone did, was able to reproduce it, then people would, I feel like it might be able to hit that tipping point, you know, sooner. But also, it's so hard if they haven't trained the way that you trained. What are you most excited about right now, and what are you hoping that people take away from this?Tom Paladino 27:23  I'm excited about life. I'm excited anytime we can improve our well-being, we do so. By the way, every day I have one or two goals, research goals, and I usually meet those. If I can do it, you can do it. If I have goals, you can do it. If I can introduce something that's new and different to mankind, everybody can do that, or at least everybody can participate. Why not improve our human condition? That's what I'm trying to do. In order to make an improvement, we have to change. If things aren't working out, we have to change. That's what I (inaudible). This is a change for the better.Lesley Logan 27:57  I really like your enthusiasm for life, and I think, also, everyone listening, those are some just really great ways to go about everything you're doing. Let's just be excited about it. This is fascinating. If you guys haven't been watching this on our YouTube channel, it's worth going back, because he has been showing different things, like not every YouTube interview is, got visuals. So this is one of those ones want to get back to. We're going to take a brief break and then find out how people can find you, follow you, work with you, and your Be It Action Items.Lesley Logan 28:23  All right, Tom, if somebody wants to have you work with them, where should they go? How can they follow you? How can they get more information if they're curious?Tom Paladino 28:32  I'm all about performance. So the first thing you're going to do, go to the website, scalarlight.com, S-C-A-L-E-R and you'll visit that website, and you're allowed to submit, email your photograph, we'll work with you and your family for free. We'll treat your photograph for 15 days. I do that because I want to prove to you that this works. I want to prove that you're going to feel better after 15 days of (inaudible). So the website, scalarlight.com. Now, moving forward, I'd like to prove this to the world. I'll treat the world for free. If I have 8 billion people can sign up for the free session. What's the point here? To improve the world condition. That's why I've done this. This is why for 50 years I've been out on this path of discovery. I'm a humanitarian. I want to improve your lifestyle, my lifestyle. So, participate. Help me with this.Lesley Logan 29:26  So, okay, hold on. I have one more question, can you work with a photograph that is not sent to you? Or do you, do you know what I mean? Could you, in theory, take photographs of people that are just like out of a yearbook or no?Tom Paladino 29:39   You can. You can. Any photograph is a source of light. My photograph is my fingerprint, so to speak, and my life is embedded upon that photograph. Yeah. So yes, you could walk into a football state. I mean, you could take photographs of 60, 70,000 people in a football stadium. Yes. Now, fast forward this, in my laboratory today, I've been working with half a million photographs. Over the years, people sent me their photographs. Today, I work with half a million photographs. Lesley Logan 30:08  Wow, wow. Okay, well, that's, I mean, how, so someone like you could send your friend's photograph in you're really worried about them.Tom Paladino 30:19  It's a permission. We ask people to (inaudible).Lesley Logan 30:22  Get permission. I appreciate that. Okay, so get their permission. Don't just send people's auras in. Okay, all right. This has been really fascinating. You've given us so much of like self-talk and also amazing information about what it is that you do. Before we let you go, bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it, what do you have for us?Tom Paladino 30:44  Just be happy in life. And if you want to change your life, then just make steps, gradual steps. Every day I have goals. Imagine if you had one goal a day and you're only working Monday through Friday. Well, that means, out of 220 days out of a year that you're working, you're going to make 220 improvements in your business, in your home life, family life, in your social life. What if you make just one improvement a day? You'd only do that Monday through Friday. That's 200-some improvements a year. Imagine what the world would be if everybody could have one improvement, one benefit per day. That's 8 billion people experiencing benefits every day. That's what the world is missing. We have to stop fighting. Improve the world condition. Be happy. Stop fighting. Let's make progress.Lesley Logan 31:38  Yes. Did you hear that? You guys? One goal a day, just one. I think the problem is some people have 17, and that is why we don't get to move forward. So I love this. Tom, you're doing really cool things, and they're really interesting and really fascinating, and I'm excited to see what you do. I do believe your passion is going to take you everywhere you want to go. And I also believe that when people are trying to do good things in this world, they can't, like, it has to work out. It has to be seen. So thank you for doing the efforts that you do, and for taking care of people and yourself, because that's how this planet becomes a more and more amazing place. Lesley Logan 32:12  You all, how are you going to use these tips in your life? Make sure you check out Tom. Tom, are you on the socials?Tom Paladino 32:18  Yes. On my homepage at the bottom, you'll see my social units. Lesley Logan 32:22  Okay, so you can tag him. We'll put it in the show notes. Tag the Be It Pod, share it, tell it. Let us know how you're gonna use these tips. And also, if you send your photo in, keep us posted on how it goes and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 32:36  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 33:19  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 33:24  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 33:28  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 33:35  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 33:39  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode of The Pilates Lounge Podcast, host Katie Crane sits down with Lesley Logan, NCPT, to dive into the often-overlooked business side of being a Pilates instructor. Lesley, also a Habits, Mindset, and Breathwork coach, is the founder of OnlinePilatesClasses.com, the largest catalogue of free Pilates tutorials and the only on-demand platform that provides Pilates lovers with accountability and community. She shares her journey from a retail background to becoming a successful Pilates instructor and entrepreneur, highlighting the importance of recognizing your role as a business owner from the very beginning. Together, they discuss the importance of understanding your brand, the power of taking messy action, and the critical role self-care plays in running a successful business. The conversation covers essential topics like finding your ideal client, fostering a community mindset, and knowing when to hire help to prevent burnout. Lesley provides practical tips on how to build a sustainable business model while still making time for self-care and personal growth. Lesley has been teaching since 2008 and was trained by one of Joseph Pilates' clients, making her a 2nd generation instructor. She has trained thousands of people worldwide, along with hundreds of teachers, and is passionate about helping women ditch perfection, take messy action, and prioritise themselves to live better lives. With a comprehensive certificate from the National Pilates Certification Program and extensive teaching experience, Lesley is widely regarded by both the Pilates community and corporate executives alike. Key Takeaways: Understanding the business side of things is essential for Pilates instructors. Branding is more about the energy and feeling you create, not just a logo. Taking messy action leads to better feedback and faster growth. Embracing community over competition strengthens the Pilates industry. Knowing your ideal client makes your marketing efforts more effective. Prioritising self-care helps prevent burnout and resentment. Hiring support allows you to focus on income-generating activities. A sustainable business model requires thoughtful planning and preparation. Your unique teaching style will naturally attract the right clients. Client feedback is a valuable tool for improving your services.   Connect with Lesley: https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/   https://www.instagram.com/be_it_pod/   https://www.instagram.com/profitablepilates/  Facebook Website Take Advantage of our Special Offers!   Claim it now here: https://www.thepilatesprofessional.com.au/free-gift-workshop   Unlock Your Pilates Potential!  Take This FREE 60-second Quiz To Find Out ”What's your Pilates Personality? https://go2.bucketquizzes.com/sf/75440977   Subscribe to our biweekly Pilates Muse newsletter for exclusive updates. https://www.thepilatesprofessional.com.au/the-pilates-muse-publication

  Pilates is the path forward for many people who have been active and are experiencing back and shoulder issues. Shane Rhoads of Movement Med talks to us about his journey and how he became interested in the field of Pilates. This interest fueled his desire to start a business encompassing Pilates and other forms of self-care that help people to "grow older with gusto!" Tune in as he also explores the importance of finding qualified instructors to maximize the benefits of Pilates, especially if you are already a senior. --- Watch the episode here   Listen to the podcast here   The Beauty Of Pilates With Shane K. Rhoads Welcome to Growing Older with Gusto. We have another exciting guest who's growing older with Gusto and helping others to do that too. My personal experience as I'm growing older is the need for Pilates to keep my back in tip-top shape so I can enjoy doing some of the activities I love, like biking, swimming, and playing golf. Our guest is Shane Keith Rhoads. He's a professional trainer who turned his background in education into a Pilates, rehab, and medical exercise studio and a business, which he calls Med Movement. The business that he started in 2017 is unique in that he has created an environment for people to experience Pilates and other types of rehab exercises. He has a lot to share about his evolution, so let's bring him on. Welcome to the show, Shane. Thanks for having me. Getting Into Pilates My pleasure. In talking to you, I know you started in a way that is probably a little bit more unconventional than somebody starting a Pilates studio. Could you talk about how you got into the business of integrating body and mind? I'll go backward to tell you where the first light-up moment is. I've been in fitness for probably over 30 years. I started when I was a sophomore in college at Goodyear Fitness Center and Corporate Fitness. My major was Exercise Physiology and then Sports Medicine, working with athletes. I was an athlete at the time, so I was enamored with working with athletes. In grad school, I was a strength and conditioning coach for college sports teams and an athletic trainer, the guys who take care of injuries and tape ankles.     I had to put a lot of hours in and I had very limited time. I asked them, “Can I count my weight room strength coach hours as sports medicine hours?” They're like, “No, but if you become the last-phase rehab guy in the weight room, we'll count those hours.” I fell in love with working with people in that last transition from injury to full health again. That kept me still in sports. I went into professional baseball after that and had a private business after that. I also did some other things. At some point, I remember reading an article about Pilates. What year was that, would you say? 1989, I was in school. The reason I asked is that I'm hooked on Pilates. I know from talking to people that Pilates has evolved from when Joseph Pilates introduced it to the world, from being classical and helping dancers to being part of a rehab program. I was curious. 1996, 1997, I was looking for some new avenue and I came across an article. As I was saying, Pilates was starting to be in the public eye, but more from celebrities doing it, and it was on TV. I saw this article on rehabilitation in the Pilates setting, Brent Anderson and Polestar Pilates. It clicked. It's like this system and equipment can allow me to do almost everything with someone. It's a long-term longevity-type exercise routine. It's non-impactful. It works on all the mobility and stability you need, and there's a lot of variety. It's something you can do for a lifetime. That appealed to me because I can help rehab people, or help them with their medical conditions and get fit. I can keep doing it until they're 100 years old. We have a client here who's 96. When did that client start doing Pilates? I never asked her. She works with one of the other instructors. It appealed to me in that way.

What is feminine burnout? This episode explores the specific type of burnout impacting women and how it disrupts hormone balance and the body's ability to experience joy. Lesley and Brad dive into insights from Dr. Jordin Wiggins, discussing the effects of stress and how to reclaim your energy by microdosing pleasure. Discover small yet powerful changes you can make to build resilience against stress and restore balance in your life.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How feminine burnout disrupts hormone balance.Why small doses of pleasure reintroduce daily joy.Building resilience through nervous system regulation tips.Long-term consequences of ignoring stress and burnout.Actionable steps to add pleasure into daily routines.Episode References/Links:Cambodia February 2025 RetreatFlashcards WaitlistPilates Studio Growth AcceleratorOPC Winter TourDr. Jordin Wiggins WebsiteDr. Jordin Wiggins' InstagramThe Pleasure Principles PodcastThe Pink Canary by Dr. Jordin WigginErin Hatzikostas Episode 427By Any Other Name by Jodi Picoult  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  If you have to clean the kitchen, what can make that more pleasurable? Would it be but more fun to be in cozy sweats with some really great music? Would you have more fun to have your favorite beverage. I don't know. What would make it more pleasurable? Would it be more fun if your partner was naked? I don't know these things. You can try them out. Lesley Logan 0:16  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 0:58  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the pleasurable convo I have with Jordin Wiggins. Dr. Jordin Wiggins, to be exact, in our last episode, if you haven't yet listened to that one, you have missed out. And you can listen to that one after you listen to this one, or pause this one. Listen to that one. You know, whatever you want to do. It's easy. They're all here for you. Brad Crowell 1:20  Do it. All the things. Lesley Logan 1:21  Yeah, before we get into that, today is Thursday, October 10th, and it's World Mental Health Day. I also wanted to say it's really hard to choose, because there's actually a lot of world days. Normally there's like, a World Day. Brad Crowell 1:32  Yeah, there's a lot. Lesley Logan 1:32  There was a lot of world days, including information on world homelessness problem, some other things. Brad also saw a vegan burger thing. So, you know, but the World Mental Health Day felt like it encompassed most of the other world days. So World Mental Health Day is October 10th and as our understanding of mental health grows, we grow along with it. Mental Health has come a long way since the early 90s, when the World Federation of Mental Health, WFMH, officially established the day. Our self-awareness and sensitivity towards it have changed things for the better. Our language surrounding mental health has improved as words like crazy and lunatic are used less flippantly, and we come to better understand that can be unintentionally hurtful and stigmatizing. While we've learned a lot, there's still so much more we can do to evolve as a society.Brad Crowell 2:20  Yeah, I feel like that's a good description. You know, when we were younger, in the 90s, Lesley Logan 2:26  People use the R-word. Brad Crowell 2:27  They did. They did. Lesley Logan 2:28  Just to, like, say something was like, this cup, you know?Brad Crowell 2:32  Or, you know, I still think the word insane is thrown out there really a lot. I mean, we don't know that many people who are truly insane. So I guess. Lesley Logan 2:40  Given, given the current climate we are in, there are a particular person who is making me use some of these words in the like, towards that person, without them having been tested, and I feel really bad about it. But also, what else do we say? Yeah, which is why, you know what? Maybe why weird is there. But also I just really, I do agree, like, growing up, no one really talked about mental health, and was kind of rare that anyone would go see a therapist, and all of this stuff, and now.Brad Crowell 3:15  Or it was, like, awkward, and say, oh you're seeing a therapist?Lesley Logan 3:19  (inaudible) get things done. And you had to rally all the time. And now we can Brad Crowell 3:23  I mean, in things like ADHD, you know, and ADD. Lesley Logan 3:26  Right. But also, like, it's so easy. I've, you know, like, friends that you love who really care about you be like, hey, can we catch up. It's like, you know, I'm taking a mental health day. They're not like, oh, you're bailing on me again. People just go, okay, it's actually really seen to be a positive thing. And also, sometimes I would people don't take care of the Mental Health I'm like, what is going on with you? Like, why aren't you taking care of yourself? This is the world we live in where you can. So I think it's really cool. Lesley Logan 3:52  And also I will say, I just want to say, it is World Homelessness day. Please look at where you are and see what you can do to help because especially in the States, the Supreme Court just made it legal for towns to make it illegal to be homeless. And so I don't know how the fuck they think these people are going to bring into society if they go to jail for being homeless, and then guess what? They can't get an apartment. How are they going to get most jobs? I have so many problems about this so and as someone who's been without address a few times. If you have judgment towards people who are homeless, I ask you to check that, because there's a lot of different reasons people are homeless. Not every homeless person doesn't have a job. Oftentimes it's because it's really hard to get affordable housing near where they work. And if you live in a really nice neighborhood and you're like, there's fucking homeless here, well, guess who is going to work at your subway? How can they afford to live close and in that neighborhood? So we need to really invest in city planning and taking a look at these things and really making sure that mental health facilities and support systems are invested in because that is who is helping the homeless. Okay, I'll get off my little soapbox. Brad Crowell 5:01  Okay, well, upcoming here in next February, Lesley and I are going to be back in Cambodia. We are currently in Cambodia right now, literally hosting a retreat as we speak. So obviously, recorded this ahead of time, but it is literally one of our most favorite things to do in the world, and I say that being on the other side of the world right now. Lesley Logan 5:22  While you're listening to this, we are at a lotus farm. Brad Crowell 5:24  That's right, yeah, no, it's, that's actually exactly where we are. We're literally at a lotus farm. We are. Lesley Logan 5:29  We're making flowers and necklaces. Brad Crowell 5:31  Yeah. And we are floating on a lake with lotuses all over the, all over it. It is stunningly beautiful. Lesley Logan 5:37  At sunset. Brad Crowell 5:38  Yeah, yeah. And you too could join us next February. We're gonna do it again. So it is gorgeous, amazing. It's inspirational. It will change your perspective on so many things when you see how other people live their lives, and the people of Cambodia are so friendly and open and just nice and kind, and we get to go not only meet them, see them, experience their food and culture, but then we get to explore something that is truly incredible, the eighth wonder of the world, the temple of Angkor Wat. It is the largest religious structure on the planet Earth. It is unbelievable. It is literally temples in the middle of the jungle that have been reconstructed here now. And you got to see it. It's a bucket list thing. So we want you to come with us, go to crowsnestretreats.com, crowsnestretreats.com. What do we got coming next? Lesley Logan 6:26  Well, when we come back, I, you know, continue to ready myself for the accessory shoot, which is going to be in LA. Someone's going to be in LA for a week, doing some work and just preparing my strength and stamina for some of the exercise we've take pictures of. I'm so excited for this. This is actually going to be a really cool shoot. We're actually using another studio for the guillotine in there. So if you want the accessories deck, which is the sixth deck, and the final deck in the flash card decks, this is the last one. And I don't see us doing a prequel or a spin-off, this is like, this is it. This is the last installment. Brad Crowell 7:00  Yeah, I think so. I'm pretty sure. Lesley Logan 7:01  I know somebody else, like, somebody already thought, like, you do an expansion deck, and I was like, we're not doing that. Don't just. Nope. But never say never. So here's the deal, go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist, because only those on the waitlist get access to the presale price. The presale price is a short time window, sometime in the 2025 year, and then you wait while we wait for them to print and ship to you, and you get them for the best price. So opc.me/flashcardwaitlist. Brad Crowell 7:27  Yep, yep, yep. Next up, I am hosting a webinar coming up really soon, called the Pilates Studio Growth Accelerator. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator, if you're feeling at all stuck in your business, if you are wondering why you can't bring in more clients or make the money that you want to be making, we're going to be covering all those things. Lesley and I have coached more than 2000 businesses through our agency coaching program, and we boiled it down to these three big secrets, y'all, and I'm going to be digging into them live with you on this free webinar. So go to prfit.biz/accelerator. And finally.Lesley Logan 8:08  Last up for the year. The last thing of the year is the winter tour, and actually goes into the new year. So we actually kick off the year on tour. Brad Crowell 8:15  On the road. Lesley Logan 8:16  And we're doing 23 cities, and like 35 days. We want to see you. We're probably going to be somewhere where you live, and maybe somewhere you're visiting. And so yes, you can come to multiple cities. We had one person do three stops in the summer tour. Brad Crowell 8:26  We did.Lesley Logan 8:27  And several people do two stops on the summer tour. So go to opc.me/tour to make sure you don't miss out on when we release the cities. Brad Crowell 8:33  Love it. All right. Before we get into it here, pretty soon, we're going to be covering what Dr. Jordin Wiggins was digging into about pleasure, which I thought was really cool. But before we get there, let's get to the audience question today. Instagram, we have Professional Acro on Instagram asked, hey, in your YouTube videos, do you have an intermediate level chair 1-2 in order? And also, quick questions, please. If there are any special order for the Spine Corrector. Thank you so much. So it's kind of a twofer, right there.Lesley Logan 9:07  She has a twofer in there, like, how she snuck it in. So Joe Pilates did, and by the way, I sometimes say Joseph, but then I hear Jay on my shoulder. His name is Joe, not Joseph. I mean, it was, he was born Joseph. But there's like, a special like, just like, just like he was blue collar. It's Joe, right? Brad Crowell 9:26  He's Joe. Lesley Logan 9:26  So Joe Pilates did not have an order on the Chair or the Spine Corrector. Now, there are series that can have orders to them. On the Wunda Chair, there isn't really like, except for footwork, there isn't really, like, any order to any of the other series you, I mean, obviously the press down series, you can do front side crossover. That's typically what people do, because it makes a lot of sense. But you can also just do side just to cross over. So there's that. On the Spine Corrector there are, there is the leg series, and there's the arm series. And they have an order, which, by the way, are in the barrels deck (inaudible) and that is out. It has been shipping for a while now. I'm so excited about it. So that those do have orders and the series. But again, you omit what's not appropriate for your practice yet, and then you stay in that order. But the other thing about Joe was that he didn't have the levels. So I definitely don't have what you're looking for.Brad Crowell 10:18  There were no levels when Joseph Pilates created contrology.Lesley Logan 10:22  No, I mean, what I tell people in my mentorship program is like, if it's overhead, it's obviously not something to teach someone who's new. There you go. And then if it requires two spine shapes in it, then it might actually be a little bit more difficult than exercise that require one spine shape in it, so that really helps you kind of go, which exercise should I teach first? Just a little common sense. So I don't have what you're asking for on YouTube, but I have everything that exists on the Wunda Chair that Joe taught, and on the Spine Corrector and everything else that Joseph Pilates created as a free video in any of the playlists on the channel, and also, almost all are on the flashcards. The accessories deck is coming.Brad Crowell 11:05  Yeah. And they're also collected really nicely and neatly in one location on our website. So if you go to onlinepilatesclasses.com and go to the tutorials, you will find the section specifically for the chair that you might be looking at, because we've got them broken down across the different types of chairs, even so you could just go to the site and see them all collected together in one place. Yeah. Great question. Thanks for asking that. If you have a question, you can actually text us, 310-905-5534, 310-905-5534. If you live outside of the States, or you just use Instagram more often. Just ping us at the Be It Pod on IG or, obviously, on YouTube. So thanks so much, and stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 11:49  Okay, now let's talk about Dr. Jordin Wiggins. Dr. Jordin Wiggins is a Naturopathic Doctor, Pleasure and Intimacy Coach. She's the author of The Pink Canary and host of the Pleasure Principles podcast. She is dedicated to helping high-achieving women heal feminine burnout and reconnect with their pleasure, empowering them to transform their health and their happiness. I thought this was really cool, because I didn't understand this idea of feminine burnout versus non feminine burnout, and she didn't exactly like clinically describe what that means. But I do. I have a lot, I have a feeling has a lot to do with hormones, too. So, yeah. Lesley Logan 12:26  Well, because she talks about, like, burnout, it leads into constant cortisol production. And when cortisol is high, we know this from a hormone podcast we listen to Brad, progesterone is low. Remember? Right. (inaudible)Brad Crowell 12:41  Progesterone is what helps you sleep and helps you (inaudible).Lesley Logan 12:46  Around your body. It's so awesome. It can make the hormone. It can, like, lead you into your cycle in, like, a great way, or not a great way. Brad Crowell 12:53  Yeah, the cortisol is important. You need it, but, like, we overproduce it because we jack ourselves up with stress and with caffeine and all these other things, and we're just basically out of balance.Lesley Logan 13:04  Yeah, for sure. So here's what's so great. We have an agency member who went on vacation, and she took extra time, and then she found herself in anxiety on the extra days. And now I'm discovering what she didn't do is microdose pleasure, which is what Dr Jordin Wiggins tells us to do. Brad Crowell 13:19  Interesting. Lesley Logan 13:19  She says when you're experiencing feminine burnout, the pleasure center in your brain is turned off. So if you gave yourself all these extra days off, and you've never had them before, you kind of put yourself in a stressful place, because actually, is it going to feel safe? So she, what Dr. Jordin Wiggins is telling us is start to microdose our pleasure slowly and turn up the dial to get it turned back on. That's amazing. Brad Crowell 13:40  Yeah, so there's a clinical, there's a clinical name for this, where pleasure symptoms are turned off. Yeah, that's right, Anhedonia. Lesley Logan 13:48  Anhedonia. We talked there's a great part of the podcast you want to go listen to, like she discovered what that was, and it's the inability to feel pleasure and joy. Brad Crowell 13:55  Yeah, yeah, which is kind of insane, like we chase what makes us feel good, which is usually checking a thing off a list, right? But there comes a point where you're just maxed out on a, on that, and that could take, you know, it seems like that could take a long time to get to, but once you're there, what do you do? You know, you're just stuck, right? So I think it's pretty, pretty interesting to What did she say? Microdose. Lesley Logan 14:17  Microdose. Brad Crowell 14:18  Microdose pleasure to help reintroduce this idea, and just so that y'all know, she did talk about sex, she did talk about the intimacy and physical pleasure, but she also talked about more than just that. She said, that's, of course, part of it, but that's not, that's not what the only part of the conversation we're talking about here. What can bring you joy? What can bring you pleasure from having a glass of water? What can bring you joy from taking a morning walk, enjoying the breeze, like, you know, these other things. Lesley Logan 14:45  Like, if you are going for your morning walk. I did my morning walk, okay, check, go sit in the front of the sunshine, check, like, if you are not actually Brad Crowell 14:53  Got that vitamin D, what's next? Lesley Logan 14:54  Enjoying the moment, I really love when I get lost on a walk and I come back and I'm like, oh, I didn't, because I normally go on Instagram and go, good morning, happy Tuesday. A lot of times lately I just fucking got home go, oh, hey guys, it was a great walk. You missed it. You missed it. It was so pleasurable. I had such a good time.Brad Crowell 15:16  That is, that's pretty funny. Lesley Logan 15:17  What did you love? Brad Crowell 15:18  Okay, so she talked about recognizing burnout, and she explained that hormones a lot of the time, they are a lag indicator, meaning burnout and stress have already impacted the body before hormone imbalances actually show up. It's like they're behind the eight ball here, y'all, another analogy there. But while hormone imbalance and adrenal dysfunction occur, it is compounded, and then it is layered, okay? So by the time you're actually realizing that you're in this place, it has been happening for a while, and it is compounded and it is layered. Okay, so that is, that's a problem. How do we then unfuck that? Basically, right? She emphasized resilience comes from a regulated nervous system, a well-regulated nervous system can handle stress without leading to those hormone imbalances. But one year past that point already, what do you do to come back, right? And that comes right back to what you're talking about, microdosing that joy. Microdosing pleasure. I don't really understand why this is feminine only, because this seems very applicable to me, too. You know I, you know. Lesley Logan 16:22  Jordin, if you're listening, we would like to know. Actually, I, the time we're recording this, tomorrow I'm actually on her podcast. So, not tomorrow in the time you're listening, guys, but the tomorrow and the time that Brad and I are here. Brad Crowell 16:34  Oh, well, you can ask. Lesley Logan 16:35  I'll then ask her. Brad Crowell 16:35  Great. Lesley Logan 16:36  I'll ask her for you. I'll say hey, Brad would like to know why. Brad Crowell 16:39  I would love to know. I would absolutely love to know, because I think that we have adrenals, it's like. Lesley Logan 16:44  And it's also possible, like, she studies women, and she's in a women's clinic, and so that's why she can't just say it's.Brad Crowell 16:50  Yeah, maybe, and she specifically, that's her ICA. Lesley Logan 16:52  Masculine burnout, I don't know. But also, like. Brad Crowell 16:55  That's her ideal client avatar, if y'all (inaudible) study. Lesley Logan 16:58  Yeah, yeah. But also, like, it might just be where she's had more experience in the medicine world she might not have (inaudible) I don't know. Brad Crowell 17:05  Yeah, a well-regulated nervous system can handle stress without leading to hormone imbalances. So how do you get a well-regulated nervous system? She said resilience, right? And we didn't really have a deep conversation about resilience, so I think that's another great question to ask her is, like, how do you build resilience? How do you create a well-regulated nervous system through resilience? What does that actually mean? I'd be interested to learn more.Lesley Logan 17:29  Okay, Dr. Jordin Wiggins. Brad Crowell 17:31  We got notes. We got notes. Lesley Logan 17:32  Apparently, we have more questions. I didn't do a great job. There's two important questions. We'd like you to come back.Brad Crowell 17:38  It's all good. I wasn't gonna rag on you, my dear, you're amazing.Lesley Logan 17:42  I am amazing, but I missed that. So yes, okay.Brad Crowell 17:45  Well, we're gonna dig in even more about what Dr. Jordin Wiggins said in the Be It Action Items. So stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 17:52  Welcome back. All right. Let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Dr. Jordin Wiggins? She said hey, pull out your phone. Make a note of things that you can do to help microdose your pleasure. More specifically, make a list of pleasurable activities, right? So when you have built in that downtime for your day, you can pull out your note and you could say what do I actually want to do? She talked about doing a puzzle, reading a book. She didn't mention it, but we did, taking a walk, you know, we. Lesley Logan 18:27  Yeah, I think, I don't know if I talked about this with her, but when my therapist was trying to get me to, like, not work all the time, she was like, okay, I said, I've got the time blocked out. I have time to do nothing, and I can't do nothing. And so she said write down all the things you could do and then just look at it go, when that time comes go, of these things what do I want to do? So you could do the same thing here, you'll make a big list of like, what would feel pleasurable to you? Maybe it's like having a chocolate bar and a glass of wine. I don't know.Brad Crowell 18:55  I mean, that's pleasurable. She talked about reading erotic books, especially if. Lesley Logan 19:00  You guys could read Eliza David's erotic novels. Remember her from the pod? Kellee Forkenbrock, she writes erotic novels that are with a. Brad Crowell 19:08  They were on Amazon for.Lesley Logan 19:10  For like a fucking dollar. Brad Crowell 19:11  That's what I was gonna say, I didn't want to, I didn't wanna throw it out there without confirming. But yeah, I think there was a whole conversation in the last episode about sex being like a chore, checking it off. Okay, did that. Now, I don't have to worry about it, you know? And there's part of this microdosing, microdosing pleasure, that can help rekindle some, like, actual interest. And so reading a book on that can be good.Lesley Logan 19:34  Also, there are so many novels now that don't look like the ones that were sold at grocery stores. That was just like, my grandma always bought all of those.Brad Crowell 19:39  Like, some dude who's some jack dude in front of (inaudible). Lesley Logan 19:42  You mean, Fabio? You mean, like, just Fabio? Brad Crowell 19:44  Yeah or Fabio with long golden hair. Lesley Logan 19:46  Oh, my God, every time Fabio would come to the gym. Brad Crowell 19:48  For those YouTubers. Lesley Logan 19:49  I couldn't look at Fabio. I couldn't look at Fabio because, like, he's on like, the cover of half my grandmother's books, you know what I mean. Or, like, some (inaudible) but also, like, you can microdose it. I'm reading Jodi Picoult's book. My first time reading Jodi Picoult, I'm reading By Any Other Name, and there are some micromoments of erotic pleasure in there. And I was like, oh, this is a fun book. And then I'm like, maybe that, maybe there. So I don't know if you have a fun erotic novel that I should be reading that is not 50 shades of anything. Send it my way. Brad Crowell 20:19  Yeah, reach out. Lesley Logan 20:20  Anyways, go. That's a Be It Action Item. I think it's also fun. Also, like. Brad Crowell 20:23  Yeah, what about you? Lesley Logan 20:23  I'm sure it can also be art. It can be a lot of things. So it doesn't have to be those things. Brad Crowell 20:27  I mean, pleasure can even be taking a break, right? Like we. Lesley Logan 20:32  I, do you know what I do every morning that I find pleasurable? Brad Crowell 20:34  Tell me. Lesley Logan 20:35  I don't do it every day of every year, but in this moment, what I'm finding pleasure in is doing the diffusers. We have two in the house. Brad Crowell 20:42  Oh, I noticed them. (inaudible)Lesley Logan 20:43  And I also do my humidifier for my beautiful plants. And then sometimes during the day, I'm like, this just feels boring. And I'm like, what would make this more fun? Or what would this make, would this work more pleasurable? And I will find a playlist that I want to listen to, and I don't listen to my earbuds. I listen to it on a speaker. Brad Crowell 21:01  In the room. Lesley Logan 21:02  In the room, so it takes up this ambiance, and it's so fun. Brad Crowell 21:06  That's cool. That's pleasure. What's your biggest takeaway? Lesley Logan 21:09  Okay, so we talked about this, but she, this is a Be It Action Item for you. And here it is. Ask yourself how can I make this moment more pleasure? Brad Crowell 21:16  That's right. Lesley Logan 21:16  So you can take a list of things that could be pleasurable, or how could I make the moment right now more pleasurable, the moment that I'm in in this moment. And pleasure can be erotic, or it can just be pleasure is also another word for joy, fun, enjoyment. So if you have to clean the kitchen, like, what can make that more pleasurable? Would it be but more fun to be in, like, cozy sweats with some really great music? Would it be more fun to like, have your favorite beverage? I don't know. Like, what would make it more pleasurable? Would it be more fun if your partner was naked. I don't know these things. Try them out. And then she said incorporate small pleasurable tweaks into daily life. So what little tweaks, little microdoses, can we do to feel better? So start with microdoses. This is a Be It Till You See it, not a like, 100% it. And by the way, Erin Hatzikostas' 50% Rule, and apply it to pleasure in this moment, and I bet you'll have a little bit more pleasurable moments. I'm just saying.Brad Crowell 22:06  I love it. Lesley Logan 22:07  So take a listen to Dr. Jordin Wiggins and if you like her, you can go listen to the episode I'm going to be on on her podcast. I don't know what we're talking about.Brad Crowell 22:17  It's called Pleasure Principles. Like, the pod. We'll put the link in the show notes. Lesley Logan 22:22  Yeah, we will. I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 22:24  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 22:25  How are you going to use these tips in your life? Thank you so much for being here. Thank you for listening. Thank you for downloading. Share this with a friend. If you've got a friend who's just always saying, like, I'm so burnt out, they need to hear this. Brad Crowell 22:35  I want to know how many of you are going to make your husband be naked in the kitchen? Lesley Logan 22:39  Okay, you don't. Do you really want to know this, Brad? No, you don't. He's joking. He's joking. He's joking. Also.Brad Crowell 22:49  That's just funny. Lesley Logan 22:51  We have these like.Brad Crowell 22:53  I might not ever be able to meet your husband.Lesley Logan 22:54  No, don't tell. Brad Crowell 22:55  So, don't tell me. Lesley Logan 22:56  Don't tell him, uh, keep it to yourself. That's what's pleasurable about it. But we do have, I'm gonna keep, not keep this to myself, we have this film on the glass that like you can't really see in our house unless it's at night when the lights are on. And sometimes I think you forget that. Brad Crowell 23:11  Me? Lesley Logan 23:12  Yes. Brad Crowell 23:14  Maybe.Lesley Logan 23:14  Because we don't have any window treatments.Brad Crowell 23:17  Not telling y'all where I live.Lesley Logan 23:19  Oh, okay. Also, hopefully our neighbors don't listen. Um, my dad asked if one of our neighbors still is naked in the backyard. And I said, not that I've seen because I don't look there. Since I know that.Brad Crowell 23:33  I'm pretty sure he must have seen me on the roof and been like, well, last time we're doing this. Lesley Logan 23:37  No, it's not because my dad saw him back there, walk out, go into their fish pond, grab a fish out with his hand, and, like, walk back in the house, totally naked. Brad Crowell 23:45  What? I love this guy.Lesley Logan 23:47  Yeah, here's what I want to say. I was like, well, dad, he wants his tanning even. But here's what I just want to say, he has no fucks to give. That is pleasurable for him, and there's no shame in it. I'm not looking because it's not pleasurable for me. Brad Crowell 23:59  I mean, he's like, 75 so, yeah. Lesley Logan 24:01  Minimum. So what I would just say is, like, walk around your house naked. Brad Crowell 24:05  That's awesome. Lesley Logan 24:05  You know what? Walk in your backyard naked. It's if people see it, they were looking in your yard. Brad Crowell 24:10  That's right. Lesley Logan 24:11  And your windows. That's (inaudible) for that. All right? I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 24:15  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 24:16  Thank you so much. Brad Crowell 24:21  This is immediately gonna turn into a favorite episode.Lesley Logan 24:32  And until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 25:19  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 25:22  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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There is a Pilates method for every type of body — regardless of shape, size, age, or ability. Do all the exercises mirror those originally created by Joseph Pilates? Probably not. But is it still Pilates? Absolutely! In today's episode, we dive into the conversation surrounding the bullying that persists in our industry around classical versus contemporary Pilates. Join Hannah as she delves into why she feels this is an important conversation to have (again), why thoughtful debate and discussion are indeed important especially when done together, and why she's more concerned about how knowledge is being transmitted. She also provides insights into disarming the urge to bully, the importance of referring out as a core studio value of theirs, and explores a more meaningful discussion that should be happening in the Pilates world. For all this and more, don't miss this insightful episode of The Pilates Exchange!Key Points From This Episode:Why Hannah feels this conversation is a necessary one to have (again).Her thoughts on where the bullying stems from.Why thoughtful discussion and debate are important.What students care about (and it's not a competition between classical and contemporary).Why Hannah is more concerned with how you are transmitting the knowledge you've gained.Injury and Pilates — what does the research really say? She delves into a discussion on the appalling need for people to police each other. The importance of coming together, lifting each other up, and supporting each other in this industry. There should be Pilates for any of the special populations. Hannah shares questions instructors should ask themselves about the method of Pilates they want to teach.Referring out and why it's a key value of Hannah's Pilates studio.The strange basis of Pilates-purist bullying. Only “original equipment” versus having a wide range of manufactured equipment.The issue with large reformer classes: doing and teaching what suits your skillset and business model.She unpacks how the teacher can make a difference if you fall in love with a method.Hannah breaks down a car analogy for choosing your preferred method of Pilates.She looks at a more worthwhile discussion we should be having around the standardization of Pilates.Having conversations around taking steps to create better business models and safer, more effective environments. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode:Free Ebook – 100 Pilates Class Themes: performance-fit-online.com/100-pilates-class-themesFree Ebook – Top Teaching Tips: performance-fit-online.com/top-teaching-tipsFree Creativity Masterclass: mailchi.mp/pilates-studio-nuernberg/creativity-masterclassTrain the Trainers: pilates-studio-nuernberg.com/train-the-trainersConnect with Us: hannah@pilates-studio-nuernberg.com Performance Fit Pilates: pilates-studio-nuernberg.com Performance Fit Pilates on Instagram: @performance_fit_pilatesPerformance Fit Pilates on YouTube: @PerformanceFitPilates Hannah Teutscher on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/hannah-teutscher

Para suscribirte gratis a mi lista de envíos casia a diario con contenidos gratuitos... es aquí: https://www.pilates4k.com/ --------------------------------- ¡Hola! Te doy la bienvenida a este episodio en el que vamos a adentrarnos, con la profundidad que nos caracteriza, en la biografía de la única y auténtica heredera del Método Pilates designada como tal, en vida, por el creador del Método Pilates: Joseph Pilates. Porque… no sé si lo sabes… pero en este circo del Pilates, a nivel profesional, cualquiera se autodenomina heredero del método y te vende cursos como rosquillas habiendo pasado las mismas horas entrenando con Joseph Pilates que yo (es decir, cero). Por tanto, para honrar a tamaña figura del Método Pilates y de su Historia, éste será un capítulo un poco más largo de lo habitual. Pero es que. como ya irás comprobando durante la explicación… esta mujer “tótem” del Método Pilates, además de ser una maravillosa persona por lo que cuentan, fue la única responsable de evitar que el método Pilates cayera, para siempre, en el olvido.

Overwhelmed and constantly putting others first? Lesley and Brad recap the conversation with Board Certified Clinical Pharmacist and wellness coach Whitney Prude. Discover how stress and unresolved emotional issues can impact your health, and learn practical strategies for shifting your mindset, prioritizing self-care, avoiding burnout, and embracing self-love.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How to recognize and manage stress before it leads to burnout.Why prioritizing self-care is essential to serving others effectively.How unresolved trauma can manifest as physical health problems.Why internal motivation is more sustainable than external goals. The importance of leaning into discomfort for personal progress.The long-term benefits of embracing self-love and putting yourself first.Episode References/Links:Whitney Prude WebsiteeLevate Mentorship ProgramCambodia February 2025 RetreatTry Out OPC $40 for 40 DaysPilates Studio Growth AcceleratorLesley's 15 Minute Pilates Ball WorkoutPilates Teaching by Rachel PiperEp. 337 with Ashley BlackFasciaBlaster (Ashley Black) If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  I think that it is wrong to put everybody above you, because you ultimately will run out of energy, love, generosity, health, to take care of those people you so care about. So I firmly believe it is absolutely imperative that you actually take time for you every day so that you can give so generously. I think it's the greatest form of generosity to others is to take care of you. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap, where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the liberating convo I had with Whitney Prude in our last episode. If you haven't yet  listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now go back and listen that one, and then come back and join us. You guys, today is September 5th and it is National Cellulite Day. It's also a few other things. It could also be National Be Late Day. It's also International Charity Day. But we had an episode that goes with this, so I thought it would be really fun to talk about it. So history of National Cellulite Day. Let us tell you a fact, if you're a female and you're reading this, chances are you have cellulite. And you know what? There's nothing to be ashamed of or embarrassed about cellulite, which can range from minor lumps to deep grooves, affects more than half the women you know. The goal of National Cellulite Day is to increase awareness about the fact that cellulite is natural and part of your beauty. If you're still unsure what cellulite is, here's a quick rundown: Cellulite is a completely harmless and a very very (we can't emphasize this enough) common skin condition that causes lumpy, dimple flesh on our body. So it is more common in women, and can appear on the thighs, hips, abdomen and almost anywhere. So it is also caused by a buildup of fat beneath the skin. The amount of cellulite where it appears can differ from person to person. However, it's important to understand that cellulite can affect anyone, and some women are more prone than others. It can be determined by your genes, body fat percentage and age. We could go on, but I actually want you to go listen to episode 337, with Ashley Black, about the FasciaBlaster. She's incredible, actual peer-reviewed research and studies on. Brad Crowell 2:31  She created the FasciaBlaster.Lesley Logan 2:32  Yes, she did, and she explains what her research has found about cellulite. And so if you are wanting to work with yours you can, because she's got some tools for that. So go listen to episode 337, and also just love your body along the way, right? I also just want to quote Jake Grimes would say, do Pilates because you love your body, not because you hate it. So if there are things you're wanting to do about the cellulite that you have do it because you love your body and not because you hate it. I think it can kind of all go in there. It's all part of the self-care. All right, we are quite busy. We're actually home for a bit, maybe, maybe. But I first as of right now when we're recording this, we are definitely home. And so at this moment, there's quite possibly might be some space in the 2024 eLevate. We've got some really fun stuff we're cooking up for the round five.Brad Crowell 3:22  2025. Lesley Logan 3:23  Oh yeah, that's what your, next year it is, right? So 2025, there's no room in 2024, it's over. It ended. So if you are a Pilates instructor looking to dive in deeper into what you have learned and what you love, and learn what my teacher, Jay, and the teachers I've been so blessed to learn from taught me to really help elevate your practice, your teaching, your connection, the method, go to lesleylogan.co/elevate.Brad Crowell 3:48  Yeah. And then next year, February, come join us in Cambodia. We are taking a retreat the end of the month, and you can find out all the details at crowsnestretreats.com as you know, it's one of our favorite things to do, one of my favorite places to be.Lesley Logan 4:03  You guys, we do Pilates. We have five classes of Pilates. One of the eLevate girls told another eLevate girl here at the house, she's like, oh, I'm gonna be at the retreat. And she's like, oh, your practice is gonna change. It's insane. In just five classes, it just changes. So that's really fun. Also, on this February retreat, we have OPC members. We have some Be It Pod listeners, we have some eLevate members. There's some epic women who are signed up and I think someone signed.Brad Crowell 4:25  A lot of people coming as groups, coming as buddies. So traveling together, coming together, so it makes it a lot of fun to do that. So do that too. Lesley Logan 4:34  Yeah, y'all can try out onlinepilatesclasses.com, so if you're like, oh, what's an OPC member? Well, that is what it is, onlinepilatesclasses.com. It is our on-demand Pilates classes. However, there is accountability, and there's community, and there's ability to get feedback on your form so you know you're doing it right. And this is you can do in addition to all the other things that you're doing, because Pilates really does make what you're doing better. So go to opc.me/40 to try us out for 40 days.Brad Crowell 5:02  Yeah, check that out. And I am hosting another webinar coming up for fitness business owners, mostly Pilates, because that's most of you, and it's free, and it's called the Pilates studio growth accelerator. So if you're feeling stuck with money in your business, whether you have one client and you're just getting started, or you have an entire team of teachers and you've got a studio that's been running for a long time, if you're feeling stuck with money, we're going to cover the three biggest secrets that we have seen after coaching more than 2000 businesses have come through Prfitable Pilates, and I want you to come join me. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator to sign up and join me. Lesley Logan 5:49  All right, before we get into Whitney's amazing episode. Who is our question from this week? Brad Crowell 5:54  Okay, we've got @tborgabor, tiborgabor6854 says, "Can you make a workout with a beach ball?"Lesley Logan 6:04  Yeah so this is really funny. We shared that we actually had a OPC workout with a squishy ball. And the class is called all beach, all ball, no beach, something like that. And so so meone's like, what can we do with a beach ball? And the truth is, I thought about it, and I was like, okay, can you do the beach ball? There's so many reasons why I wouldn't use a beach ball, and that is, one, they come in variety of sizes, if I recall. But also they are a little hard to like grip, and if we make it squishier, then I'm almost afraid that it won't have the sturdiness that the fitness balls have. Brad Crowell 6:39  When you say squishy, you mean let some air out. Lesley Logan 6:41  You let some air out. You let a little air out. You want to want to work with a deflated ball when you're doing Pilates. You don't want it to be perfectly taught. Then that way you can actually rest against it. It creates a little instability. So the beach ball is one bigger than what a fitness squishy ball is that I would use for Pilates. So it's already just like the wrong size. It's going to make most people's legs too wide. If they put it between their ankles, it's going to prop you up too much if behind your shoulders, it's going to lift your hips up in a way that I don't like. So yes, you could, but is that the best thing we could do? Like, when I think about a prop, you don't just use a prop to make things entertaining. You use a prop as a tool. That's how Joseph Pilates use props. It's like an accessory to an outfit, right? It's like, oh, this would make this better for you. This would actually put it all together. Brad Crowell 7:26  Yeah, I think the squishiness of the secret for it, because with a beach ball, it doesn't have that give, it actually isn't squishy. And I'm not saying squishy deflated. You're supposed to deflate both. The beach ball doesn't have squishiness to it. So you just be putting it between your legs, like a block, you know. And as opposed to the workout ball, where there's give, and that creates that instability, like you're talking about,Lesley Logan 7:52  Yeah. And then the other last thing I just want to say, is, like, the only place you probably have a beach ball, aside from storage in your garage is at the beach, and Pilates on the sand is one of the most annoying things you'll ever do, because you are rolling around. You're kicking sand into your hair. You do a single-leg circle, you're whipping sand into your eyes, like we did this in Hawaii when we were doing our retreat. Our retreat was on grass, which also gorgeous in photos, but fucking flies, guys, there's bugs that fly around grass all the time. So we went down to the beach. Be like, oh, let's, like, do some mat work on the beach for photos, how fun. I had more sand in my hair than if I went into the water. So for all those reasons, it's a no for me, but you can take a ball workout from me on YouTube, and also, if you really like it. Rachel Piper, who's an OPC teacher for us, she uses a ball a lot in the workouts as a tool to help you connect more to the exercises. So hopefully that helps you. And if you want to nerd more about like, why would I use a prop? And what do you mean by entertaining? It's what we talk about in eLevate. All right.Brad Crowell 8:57  If you have a question for us and you want to ask it, feel free to text us at 310-905-5534, or hit us up on the gram or anywhere, and stick around. We'll be right back, because we're going to talk about Whitney Prude. All right, so now let's talk about Whitney Prude. Okay. Whitney Prude is a Board Certified Clinical Pharmacist, certified health and wellness coach and certified nutrition coach with an extensive experience working at the renowned Mayo Clinic, she specializes in helping others transform and prioritize their health through personalized coaching and comprehensive wellness programs. Drawing from her personal experience of overcoming an autoimmune disease, Whitney empowers her clients to achieve lasting physical and emotional well-being. This was a really interesting interview to me. I was trying to understand where she was going with like, how she got into what she was doing. At the beginning, she was really talking about overworking, overworking, overworking. And I was trying to understand, how did that end up putting her in this place where she is today? And. So it's a fascinating story. Lesley Logan 10:01  Yeah, I think, like, what I like about her story is that here she is, she had a dream, she worked really hard, she got there, and then she kind of, her health, she sacrificed so much to get there that she didn't get to even enjoy it. And it had to lead her down another road where she is now, which I think, like, let's not take anyone's rock bottoms away. Like, obviously she loves what she's doing, and she wouldn't be doing this had this not happened. But also, there's a lot of people who can benefit from listening to this, so they don't lose out on the dream that they had to be a pharmacist at the Mayo Clinic, incredible, and could have been a wonderful life, but because she sacrificed so much of herself. She had to learn a pivot, and now she's helping people so maybe they don't have to do that. So that leads me into, of course, one of the things I love about her being on is, like she said, women often put ourselves last and leads to neglecting self-care. I literally have to remind people every single day, and then I get excuses in my DMs all the time, like, oh, Lesley, it must be nice for you, or it's really hard. I have all these kids, and it's like, I get that, but there are people in your lives, I hope. Unless you are someone who has lost everyone and it's you and these kids, and you live somewhere rural and you're by yourself, okay, maybe you know, and yet, there's still going to be options. There's still options. There's still five minutes you can take for your day. 30 minutes is less than 2% so that's, of course, why I was attracted to having her on. She said, if you're taking care of everybody else and you're a yes woman, and you're saying yes to everybody else and you don't have time for yourself, it's an indicator you're doing too much. Brad Crowell 11:38  An indicator. Lesley Logan 11:39  It's an indicator you're doing too much. So if you, if you are saying, I don't have time for me, it's an indicator you are doing too much, right there. That is the biggest red flag I can give you. And she said, "You have to start switching your priorities and emphasize the importance of putting yourself at the top of your priority list." So there is that thing where it's like, hey, if I asked you what your top priorities are and you list them out, are you on them? Most people don't put themselves up there. And I'm not even to say most of them. I'm gonna say most people. Most people don't put themselves at the top. So I think it's really, really important, because you cannot show up effectively for others if you are not taking care of yourself.Brad Crowell 12:15  Yeah, that I was gonna say. I don't think most people have been raised that way to put themselves in the priority list. I certainly wasn't service first. You know, she had a lot of mentions about being raised in a church or a religious home, and that's like, you're always last 100% definitely, my childhood was you take care of other people. You serve other people before you serve yourself. And then ultimately, the question is, if you ever even have the time or chance to serve yourself, because you don't, you know.Lesley Logan 12:46  Yeah. And as a verse that comes to mind, I'm not gonna even quote it, but like, I think I shock people when I can quote a verse and it's like, the last will be first and the first will be last, or something like that. Anyways, I think that it is wrong to put everybody above you, because you ultimately will run out of energy, love, generosity, health, to take care of those people you so care about. So I firmly believe it is absolutely imperative that you actually take time for you every day, so that you can give so generously. I think it's the greatest form of generosity to others is to take care of you. And this goes for my people who are like, oh, but I'm taking care of my parents and I'm taking care of my kids, because I know we have a lot of listeners from that middle part. I hear you, I see you. Trust me. We vote every day to hope that people who take care of people in the home can get some sort of tax credit or some benefit or something like that. We don't have that right now. But what I am saying is like, you gotta ask for help where you can get it, or you gotta automate something. Gotta automate the grocery so that you can sit down and read a book and take it. It doesn't have to be going to a workout like paying for something. Anyways, I could keep going. Whitney obviously did. So I'm gonna let you go into what you like.Brad Crowell 13:55  Well, I really thought it was helpful where she was talking about the root of the cause. She was talking about unresolved health issues. They come often from unresolved, emotional past experiences, and that is not generally something that we associate health issues with. Most people think about like I got hurt or I ate something or it's genetic, right? And her argument is the emotional side of our mental well-being has an impact on our physical well-being. That is what she's saying. So our emotional needs and past experiences, if that, if we don't address those trauma that we might have had, or experiences that we've had that were negative, then it will impact the body over time. Stress, for example, she was talking about, impacts the body and. Lesley Logan 14:44  It's already scientifically proven that stress is the root cause of 99% of all illnesses, like just the stress on the body, because when you have high cortisol, when you stress your body, your body can no longer function as a whole. It has to deal with that thing. And so then what happens is, it's not focused on these other things. And listen to this amazing conversation with Mindy Pelz and this other doctor on foods that can actually prevent cancers. And so of course, he has to talk about, what is cancer? And he's like, it's amazing. We could focus on, how do I get this cancer? And his question is, like, how do you not have more cancer? Because cancer is actually so easy to develop, because our body is so good and going oop, that's a drug dealer. That's how you've referred to it, and pulling it away. But when you are constantly under stress, you are challenging your body and keeping it in a place where it cannot function in a healthy way to do those things. Brad Crowell 15:34  Very interesting. Lesley Logan 15:35  I'm super obsessed with just how our bodies function in a really, really healthy way.Brad Crowell 15:39  Yeah, well, Whitney was talking about feeling worthy, feeling that we are enough, feeling that we're loved. This stability, this mental stability, has a positive impact on your physical well-being. And so we often don't feel those things, and then we develop coping mechanisms, and those coping mechanisms lead to things like cancer over time, you know, starting or, you know, and whatever the, you know, it's like. Lesley Logan 16:09  You don't so you don't sleep, then you end up with illnesses, because it's a domino effect or if you under-eat, it's a domino effect. Brad Crowell 16:16  So, I was thinking about a good physical example, like is, if you've ever seen a dog who hurt his paw, right, they go around using three, and they effectively pretend they don't have a fourth, even though the fourth might be healed now they still don't use it. Right? And we might not cognitively be doing that with our foot or whatever. But there are parts of our body that our brain will just cut out, or stop routing things through, or nerves or all that kind of stuff, because it was not working or damaged or there was an issue. And then, you know, over time, when you're not getting blood flow and brain messages to different sections of your body, that's where problems begin. You know that's like the. Lesley Logan 17:01  Oh yeah. I mean, it's people who like another way of because it's so and the mental is so interesting. People don't want to think that their mental health has anything to do with things around their body. But another physical example, this is how your mental health works, is you sprain your ankle, so you walk a little funny while your ankle heals. So resting your ankle instead of putting a boot on, instead of figuring out why you sprained your ankle, you just walk a little funny and make an adjustment. That adjustment has a chain reaction. Now you're putting more pressure on the other knee, you're putting more pressure on the other hip, putting more pressure on the other waist of your back, and all of a sudden you have functional scoliosis. You now have a weak side and a strong side, and then you end up with more injuries, more aches and pains. I had a client who had a bad knee, refused to get surgery until it got worse. Finally had the knee replacement, and then needed to have surgery on the other knee because she'd overdone it. Brad Crowell 17:52  Yeah, I just want to wrap this up by saying Whitney said, "Nobody ever teaches us how to show up for ourselves so that we can meet our own needs and feel good enough for ourselves." And I think that she's right on the money that's not taught, and it's really important that we make an adjustment about how we prioritize ourselves. This is something that obviously, you've been talking about forever. It's come through on a lot of other podcasts, and a lot of the things that we the content that we put out there, prioritizing yourself, especially with OPC, and how OPC can help you do those kinds of things, but if we don't put ourselves in a position where we're being taken care of by ourselves, there's no way we can be operating at our best to take care of all the other people that we actually do want to take care of in our lives. So just switching that prioritization in your own mind is going to have a compounding effect in the world around you. Lesley Logan 18:44  Yeah, yeah. Brad Crowell 18:46  All right, stick around. We'll be right back. All right. Finally, let's talk about those, Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Whitney Prude? All right. She said, "If you want to reach a goal, take motivation and transition it from external to internal." So for example, I want to lose weight, that's external. So therefore I am going to show myself respect and love, so, internal. So she's saying, transition it from external to internal. I want to be first in the race. I believe I'm worthy to be first in the race, right? Get yourself to a point where you genuinely love yourself, and that was really I found this whole conversation so interesting because it's very introspective. It's very, well, putting yourself first, but also reflective, you know, trying to assess and analyze yourself and then take care of yourself and respect yourself. And I think it's amazing. Her program mostly starts with people who are interested in losing weight, right? And she said by the end of the program, the difference is the mindset, whether or not losing weight even matters. The person respects and loves themselves so differently than they did when they came in, that it actually helps with weight loss, because you're changing the focus, you're changing the focus. So. Lesley Logan 20:11  I think I really love that Be It Action Item, because I can work for anything. And the truth is extrinsic motivation is very fleeting. It's very, like, in the moment kind of thing, and it's a little more spontaneous. But intrinsic motivation, it helps you get out of bed on the hardest day. Intrinsic motivation helps you on those days where it's not easy to do the thing you want to do, whatever that thing is, because you care so deeply about yourself, or who it's for, what it's for, things like that. Brad Crowell 20:38  Yeah. What about you? Lesley Logan 20:40  She said, lean into the discomfort, which I freaking love, because this is like a Pilates thing. She explained that change requires discomfort, and that the body signals what needs to change through feelings of discomfort. Are you feeling uncomfortable? There's something wrong, like you're and you're sitting still in a chair and your body starts to hurt. It's because you need to stop sitting like that in the chair. Or stop sitting in that chair.Brad Crowell 20:59  Can we just make a clarification between discomfort and pain? What did Jay say all the time? Messy Pilates is okay?Lesley Logan 21:04  Oh, yeah, ugly Pilates, get used to it. Dangerous Pilates, never. Brad Crowell 21:07  Right. Lesley Logan 21:08  So that's just like, I love that. I fractured my knee 10 years ago. I fractured my tibial plateau, and when I was finally able to put weight back on it, I had a really hard time. And my trainer was like giving me some of the exercise I was doing before, and he'd hand me a weight, and I, there's intense fear, because I was uncomfortable, and I would go, oh, that hurts. And he said is it hard, or does it hurt? And to me, discomfort or difficult, our brains can ugly can put into the it's bad, but it's it's not necessarily bad. So you have to understand, like, what is uncomfortable versus danger. And so when you lean into discomfort that is where, like, that whole little meme of like, life happens outside your comfort zone, that means you're going to be in a discomfort zone. But there's a difference between being discomfort and discomfort versus danger. Brad Crowell 22:00  Yeah, I remember being at the gym and not listening to my body with my shoulder. It was, it was being weird. And I was like, no, I'm gonna just push through. I'm gonna do this thing. And I ended up having to be literally, I was out doing like, a specific exercise for months, because my, the way I not listen to my body. I was actually pushing through the pain, and it wasn't. It was past discomfort, right? And I knew it, but I was like, no, I'm gonna do this. I've got this anyway.Lesley Logan 22:28  So I say all pain no gain is, like, in the worst, like, worst thing, because it's teaching you not to listen to your body. You have to listen to your body, and that's hard if you've never done that before. So.Brad Crowell 22:38  But then, like, there's the stress that you're putting on your body to get stronger. That isn't painful. It just sucks. Right? That's the discomfort. That's being uncomfortable. That's like pushing. Lesley Logan 22:51  You shouldn't be so we're using workout a lot right here as an example. But I don't need you to be so sore you can't, you have to fall down onto your toilet every time you go to use it every single day. That's wrong. But if you are adding weight or adding a rep or adding a fitness routine, that is like, this is new. This is weird. I'm being challenged, but you're not in pain, then you're in a really good place, because you are challenging different parts of your body to work, your brain to work, you're putting yourself outside your comfort zone. And so she encourage you to plan time for yourself, put it on your calendar, non-negotiable, same time every day, and sit in it no matter how uncomfortable it is. She also assured it will get comfortable with consistency. And this is also true. There are certain exercises that were really hard for me to do and because they're uncomfortable, and I was like, oh, it's just a weird position to be in, I'm not really sure. And then over time, it became like a nice, comfy couch. It's like, oh, this feels, feels good to do, right? So you have to get through the discomfort before you can make progress towards change. If you want things to be different, they're going to have to be different. So there's that. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 23:54  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 23:54  Thank you so much for listening to our podcast. We are so grateful for you. Thank you, Whitney. Make sure you share your takeaways with Whitney Prude. Share it with the Be It Pod. Share this with a friend who needs to hear these things that them prioritizing themselves is actually one of the best things they can do. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 24:09  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 24:11  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Are you ready to take charge of your personal brand and stop blaming external factors for your lack of progress? In this episode, Lesley and Brad recap conversations with Nick Hiter, a seasoned entrepreneur and podcast host of Hitstreak, who shares valuable insights on personal branding, social media, and the importance of taking ownership of your reputation online and why being intentional about it is key to your success.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How prioritizing herbs over salt can lead to healthier meal choices.What aspiring Pilates instructors should look for in a certification program.Why your personal brand is more than just your online presence.How to shift your mindset from blaming external factors to taking ownership.The key to creating consistency in your brand and business.Why intentionality is the foundation of long-term success.How to align your personal brand with your goals.Episode References/Links:Nick Hiter's WebsiteWork with NickHitstreak PodcastLesley Logan's Episode on HitstreakFemGevityeLevate Mentorship 2025Cambodia February 2025 RetreatOPC $40 for 40 DaysOPC WebsiteProfitable Business Accelerator ProgramPilates CenterEquinox ProgramVintage and Jay Grimes StudioProfitable Pilates: Everything But the Exercises by Lesley Logan  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! 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I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 0:51  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the intentional convo I have with Nick Hiter in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that episode you have missed out. Just gonna say it. He's got some quotables (inaudible) talk about in a second.Brad Crowell 1:06  Couple of great nuggets. There was even a point where you said rewind that.Lesley Logan 1:10  I did. I did say rewind that. You know, I'm starting to do that, because people maybe like, oh so good. And if I say rewind, they'll be like, oh, I can do that. (inaudible) Everyone knows how to use technology. And also, you guys, I know, I think I said in our interview, but Nick and I had an amazing conversation on his podcast at Hitstreak, and that episode has been out for over a month. Just the content alone is still getting likes and shares like thousands. So just saying, I was pretty amazing too. But really, he has great questions, and he has a great podcast. You'll want to listen to the Hitstreak. Okay. Today is August 29th 2024 and it's More Herbs Less Salt Day. Enjoy More Herbs Less Salt Day on August 29th by reassessing your sodium intake. We understand that maintaining a balanced, healthy diet is easier said than done, especially since the flavor suffers the most. But healthy eating is no longer bland and boring. Spices and aromatic herbs are a great way to reduce salt in meals and amp up the taste. Your taste buds won't know what they're missing and your body will be grateful. I fucking love a salt lick. So I'm just gonna say right now, like, I'm gonna fail on this day.Brad Crowell 2:13  I put this in here on purpose because Lesley is always like, did you add salt? Did you add salt? Did you add more salt? Can you just add some more?Lesley Logan 2:19  I love. I love salt. You guys, I swear to God, I need a salt lick.Brad Crowell 2:24  Well, we also live in Vegas, and we sweat a lot and you know.Lesley Logan 2:26  Yes. And also, I had tests down where they're like, you could add more salt.Brad Crowell 2:31  Really? Lesley Logan 2:31  Yes. Chris Talley was like, you can eat more salt. I'm ike, tortilla chips with salt. He's like, add salt to the salsa. Yeah, no problem. So anyways, like, just in general, I need more. I think, as I do work out as much as I do, and we do live in Vegas, I'm just sweating. At any rate, there are some great herbs out there, and if you work with Femgevity, you will find out your food sensitivities. Because, hi. Brad Crowell 2:54  Femgevity.Lesley Logan 2:55  Femgevity. Because, like I do, you should use our link—beitpod.com/femgevity—it's spelled like, how you think. Did we find that? Is it basil that I can't have? What's on the list? There was some (inaudible).Brad Crowell 3:06  Basil is on the list I think that you're, well, you're.Lesley Logan 3:09  We love basil. Brad Crowell 3:10  You have a mild, a mild.Lesley Logan 3:11  It's a mild sensitivity.Brad Crowell 3:12  Sensitivity to basil. Lesley Logan 3:14  It's, yeah. And then there was a moderate one that was kind of a bummer as well. We'll have to look at it. (inaudible) It's on the list on the refrigerator, guys. I clearly don't cook, he does and we have a list on the fridge. Brad Crowell 3:24  Well, here's what's super cool. For Cyber Monday, Black Friday, whatever deal one year I got one of those, grow it in your kitchen, little garden situation how in the house, on the counter. And I was like, oh, this is so annoying, because once the thing grows and dies, I gotta buy a whole new pod from them. Well, they're only 10 bucks or 12 bucks for like, six pods. I was like, oh, okay, it's not the end of the world.Lesley Logan 3:50  No, it's way less than buying the herbs that go bad in your fridge. Brad Crowell 3:53  Way less than buying the herbs that go bad in your fridge, way.Lesley Logan 3:57  And the plastic around those herbs.Brad Crowell 4:01  Is the worst, just so much waste. Anyway, what's so fun about that, though, is you could have fresh herbs in your kitchen, just be where basil does take over, and so does mint. Mint takes over. Lesley Logan 4:12  Also, like. Brad Crowell 4:13  No, the mint. Lesley Logan 4:13  Was it the mint? I swear it was a dill, because the dill went first. And I was like, first. It did die first, but we also it grew so fast I'm like, what do I use dill on besides a deviled egg? We're gonna make a pickle. What's happening here? Brad Crowell 4:25  It grew and then it got choked out. Lesley Logan 4:27  But we highly recommend herbs. So if, so, first of all, make sure that you are eating ones that are awesome with your body and your body wants. And second, grow your own because it's better for the environment and for your wallet. Okay, upcoming events and travel. We talked about this before, but if you are a Pilates instructor, my mentorship for 2025 applications are open. How many spots are left? I don't know, we're recording this in advance. So there might be none, but there might be some. And also we can talk about 2026, should it be full? So go to lesleylogan.co/elevate. This is for teachers who are looking for someone to help them connect deeper to the method and really up-level their teaching, their practice, especially their practice, and their connection to the method. It is really a lot of fun. Not only can help build confidence if something you're lacking, but also can actually just really empower you to see what's in front of you and teach the body in front of you. And it just feels freaking awesome when you do that, you change more lives. Cambodia retreat, we are less than six months out for the February Cambodia retreat.Brad Crowell 5:26  Yeah, just under six, just under six. Lesley Logan 5:28  I'm so excited. I love the people who signed up for that one, because we know all of them so far, and it's just going to be a blast. So you are going to be an amazing community. Brad Crowell 5:38  Couple long time members, basically get to hang out with, we're so looking forward to it and you could join us. Lesley Logan 5:44  And you also don't, oh my god, it's like an inside club. It's only if they live here, guys. We've only known them for a while on the internet. So we're gonna it's the same as you. So we want you to come and be part of this family. We do become a family. It's really fun in a non-culty way, and we do really, really fun things. So, crowsnestretreats.com. Brad Crowell 6:01  Yeah. crowsnestretreats.com. Okay, guess what? Lesley Logan 6:05  Tell me.Brad Crowell 6:06  OPC, online Pilates classes.com, has a new thing we're doing, yeah, if you're watching us on YouTube, Lesley is pointing to her OPC hat made by Mindy's closet. OPC has a trial membership that we're offering. 40 days for 40 bucks and you can pick any of the three memberships that we offer, which are based on the equipment you have access to. So if you only have a mat, do our mat membership. If you have a mat and a reformer do that one, if you have a whole studio or access to a whole studio, do the all-equipment one. But you can try any of the three for 40 bucks, for 40 days. And what we do is we help you actually take advantage of using the membership. We're really good at this. We have, equip you with tools, we give you a suggested workout thing, we bring you into the community. You get to join us live for one, maybe even two classes, depending on when you join. Live classes, most of them are on demand, so you can take them anytime you'd like from your phone because we have an epic mobile app that you get to take advantage of all the things. So check it out. Go to opc.me/40 opc.me/40 and then finally, I've been doing another webinar series here for Profitable Pilates. It's called The Growth Accelerator, Studio Growth Accelerator. It's a free webinar. If you are feeling stuck with money in your business. I want you to join me on this webinar. We're going to go through a couple of things, three things, actually, that three big things that we're going to help unblock you're not going to feel stuck after this. You're going to have a pathway forward after this. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O dot B-I-Z slash accelerator. P-R-F-I-T dot biz slash accelerator. And join me for free. All right, but before we get into it with Mr. Nick Hiter, we did have an audience question, and today's was from YouTube. Melissa dash A-X-H-I-L-I-1-L-I whatever it's a lot, we're just gonna say Melissa. Melissa asked Lesley, where did you get your Pilates certification? Lesley Logan 8:04  So this is a really good question. I've been trying to think about, like, what do I want to say? Because if you're asking because you want to go train there, like, my first training program is in some place that I recommend people. So I'm not going to say it, because I don't want to discuss why I wouldn't recommend it. It was a great program. Brad Crowell 8:05  It was 600 hours. Lesley Logan 8:16  It was 600 hours. Brad Crowell 8:20  Certification only. Lesley Logan 8:21  No. Brad Crowell 8:22  No, it's comprehensive.Lesley Logan 8:22  I had a full comprehensive. And I will say, so the thing is, they don't do the training program that I did before. Now they let you do it modulated. So what I experienced wasn't the most amazing experience, but the setup was really successful because they did make me learn how to teach a beginner and an intermediate client at the same time on two different pieces of equipment, which is why I can just teach chaos and I'm safe with that, right? So I did appreciate that, but it left me feeling like I had memorized a lot but didn't know a lot. And so that's where I'll say the second training that I did, which was the Pilates Center out of Boulder Colorado, with Rachel Taylor Segel and Amy Taylor Alpers and their amazing crew. And I do recommend their program to people because it's around the world, and they have host studios everywhere, and they have virtual options. I also do, (inaudible) I do also recommend Equinox's program if you have access to them. It's very robust. They actually have a really great hybrid model of super, super super supportive help, and then also virtual options for comprehensive but that, so the Pilates Center in Boulder was the actual one that I did as my second one. I did their master's program, which was over three years, and that was several 100 more hours, and I was basically living.Brad Crowell 8:28  You were in and out of Boulder all the time. Lesley Logan 9:26  I was in and out of Boulder so much. Brad Crowell 9:37  I was like, what is this Pilates thing and why are they going to Boulder all the time?Lesley Logan 9:40  All the time, like every two weeks I was there.Brad Crowell 9:42  Are you with a cult? Why do you continue to go there?Lesley Logan 9:45  I know. And it was.Brad Crowell 9:46  That's when we first met, y'all. Lesley Logan 9:47  Super fun. Whole Foods and I were best friends every single day. I think at Mod Market, I think was where I had lunch. At any rate. So that was really helpful, because they helped me get rid of trying to correct people all the time. And I actually watched bodies a little bit more, but I still don't know what that meant and I don't really know what I was doing. And then I realized that I lived down the street from Vintage and Jay Grimes studio and Sandy Shimoda and Karen Frischmann, and so I actually studied with them, and all the things I've been looking for all in one place. It gave me a lot of confidence to just like, really enjoy the process and really enjoy what Joseph Pilates created for us. And here's what I'm gonna say, no first program is ever gonna get you what my third program got me like, it's just not possible. It's not a thing. So for those of you who are like looking to become a teacher, grab my book and then find the best program that is accessible to you, that sets you up for the most success, meaning you can teach.Brad Crowell 10:40  Her book is called Profitable Pilates: Everything But the Exercises. And the beginning part of it helps you choose a teacher training program that is going to help you get to where you want to go. So it explains where you could potentially go, and then works backwards from there. It's really great resource.Lesley Logan 10:56  Yeah. And then you'll come take my mentorship when you're ready. And the thing is, is that Jay will always sayBrad Crowell 11:01  The mentorship is for people who are already certified. Right? So first you're gonna go get certified through any of the myriad of training programs, teacher training programs that are out there. After you've gotten your certification, then you can come and do eLevate. Lesley Logan 11:14  Read my book, because I explain, like, what to be really looking for. Because if you take a mat training, then you want to take my mentorship, that doesn't, that doesn't work. If you just do a Reformer, there's you do have to be trained on multiple pieces of equipment, but to put pressure on your first training program to be everything for you isn't fair to you, nor them. However, there are some shitty ones out there, so be careful and read my book and it will explain like, what to look out for. And then here's the thing, Jay would always say, like, you're not really a teacher until you've been teaching for five years, and people can take a lot of offense to that. Of course, if you've only been teaching three years, I'm a teacher. I have full classes. I get that perspective. I have to say, there's also just a lot of confidence that comes with time and with allowing yourself to be curious. And when you've been teaching for five years, you really have kind of seen a lot of things, and you've realized, like, what's important, what's not important, and hopefully you're progressing people at a better pace than you did when you were beginning. But it's, a second training program is probably in your future for most teachers, because you don't, you're not learning how to say words and understand things, so just know that and give yourself permission to not have gotten it all out of the first program because it's hard to get all that out of any first programs. Brad Crowell 12:29  True. Yeah. Well, that's a great question. Melissa, thank you so much for asking. If you have a question, hit us up. You can text us at 310-905-5534, or you can hit us up on the gram or on YouTube or through our customer support anywhere you want. And I'm sure it'll work its way back here to the pod, and you'll be pleasantly surprised when your question surfaces over here. So thanks for that. Stick around, because we're about to dive in to this conversation with Nick Hiter. Brad Crowell 12:59  All right. Now, let's talk about Mr. Nick Hiter, former pro athlete, Nick Hiter is a dedicated husband and father, deeply rooted in his faith. As a seasoned entrepreneur, he co-owns agency, runs a merchant processing company and operates a set of studios and a creative agency in Tennessee. That sounds like a lot. Nick is also involved in digital marketing and manages various affiliate partnerships. Additionally, Nick is the host of the Hitstreak podcast and the voice of a SiriusXM radio station. So he keeps himself, clearly, quite busy, but he obviously has also surrounded himself with quite a team. Lesley Logan 13:36  Yeah, his team is amazing.Brad Crowell 13:36  We had a chance to meet that team, some of that team in person when we were in Nashville I don't remember a couple months back. They were super professional and had everything ready to go. I wasn't even involved in the interview, but they even made me feel like I was a guest on the show, and it was just really awesome. So a big shout out to the guys over there that we had a chance to work with and also Nick for putting together a really great crew, so. Brad Crowell 13:36  I'm gonna jump in. Brad Crowell 13:47  Do it. Lesley Logan 13:49  But I want to just preface like, about to say something that's gonna make somebody go, oh, this episode's not for me. What I'm gonna say after this applies to everything. Okay, see your own shit in the story. Brad Crowell 14:13  See your own shit. Lesley Logan 14:15  Sure. Nick is like, yes, thanks for saying see your own shit. When it comes to my like, like, I don't think he cusses at all. He mentioned digital marketing is massive. He said many people don't do social media, but then blame the algorithm. He talked about like, it's the algorithm you're blaming. He says you have to take ownership of things, because it's the only way you can fix it. And when we place blame on things, we give someone else ownership, and that means you've removed yourself from being part of the solution. So this goes for everything. When you blame other people or other things for why you didn't get something done Brad Crowell 14:46  Or you're not getting clients, or you're not finding teachers, or Lesley Logan 14:51  You've removed yourself from the solution, and there's, I don't even know how you get the solution solved. So I agree. I actually don't ever focus on the algorithm. I don't really care. I just like, let me experiment. What can I put out? And let's see how it lands. And some of the things I'll do really, really well don't do well at all. And some of the things I'm like, this is nothing, a nothing thing, they do really, really well. So here's the thing, social media is actually not about quality, it's about quantity, which is the opposite of Pilates. But also Brad Bizjack was someone who said, we have the ability to be responsible for things. Brad Crowell 14:51  Is that the Brad he kept referencing? Lesley Logan 14:56  I don't know. Brad Crowell 15:21  Because he referenced Brad multiple times. And I was like, did I say something?Lesley Logan 15:31  Yeah, and I wonder if it's Brad Bizjack, because we'll have to ask him, I don't know. But like, people get pissed off when Brad Bizjack would say, like, the things that happened to you you're responsible for, because we have the ability to respond and it allows you to not be a victim of a situation, and allows you to take ownership and lead the change of what you want to see. So I think that goes for social media, but also for anything you want to do. Brad Crowell 15:53  Well, in this case, what he was talking about was the insurance business. So previous to insurance, he and his partner, I want to, I imagine it was his wife, had they were in the clubs, they were promoting, right? So they had a promoting company, and promoting was all about the hustle, connecting, getting in there, meeting people, socializing, and so they were all over the social media game, because they needed to. If you didn't play that game, you did not succeed in the world of promoting. And then when they started their insurance company, they just transitioned that momentum over to doing insurance. And he said it created a massive leg up for them, because at the time, no one else was doing social media in the insurance game. And they slayed, right? And it really set them up to create that foundation. But all that rolls into what I want to talk about, which was he talked about your personal brand, and it being your reputation online. He said he started off as a pro athlete, and it allowed him to get his foot in the door at a lot of different places because of his reputation. But just because he was a pro athlete didn't mean he had an online personal brand. He said, once he they had established the online brand for himself, for Nick Hiter and then was consistently delivering quality content and creating an audience around it, he said at this point, we could launch any business we want and we could leverage the personal brand and roll it into whatever business we wanted to.Lesley Logan 17:20  JLo has gyms, guys, you know that? She's got gyms, like, what's her name? Goldie Hawn's daughter, she's got clothing. She's got making music. Once you have this reputation, people know and trust, they'll follow anything that you're going to do. Brad Crowell 17:34  Yeah, and we tell all of our clients with agency, hey, focus on one thing first. So if you're going to open a Pilates studio, don't also open a yoga studio and a gym and a thing and a whatever, unless you're happening to roll them all into one and they're marketing it as that one thing. But you have to build that foundation first of the one thing, and then from there, once you've created that notoriety, once you've built that trust, then you can, like, introduce speaking gigs or workshop gigs or other things, or start a podcast or do other things. Speaker 1 18:04  I know we meet people all the time, like, I want to have my on-demand membership. I'm going to have a podcast. I want to do a retreat. And I'm like, okay, do you have a team? Do you have money? Because if you don't have both of those things, you can do one of those things very well on your own, but all three not at the same time. Brad Crowell 18:19  Yeah. So with the personal brand, he said, Hey, it's so important to take it seriously. Pretend your personal brand is a company. He said, when life gets busy, it's most often the thing that takes a back seat, and at the end of the day, it is the foundation for anything else that you want to do down the road. So he talked about it the entire show. So it was great. I really appreciated it. He said, It's a commitment. Put your personal brand on a level of importance, just like other things in your life, like family, kids, business. Speaker 1 18:47  I mean, I think that's a, and here's the thing, it's like, do you know what your priorities are? Because I think most people say their priorities are the growth of their business and their family and their kids and their whatever. And then when you look at their schedule, you see it's answering emails, paying the bills, going grocery shopping, so like, make sure that your priorities are really in your schedule, and you can make that commitment. Brad Crowell 19:10  Yeah, love it. Stick around. We're gonna cover those Be It Action Items in just a sec. Brad Crowell 19:13  All right. So finally, let's talk about those, Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Nick Hiter? He said, "Everything you do has got to be done on purpose. The difference between major league pitcher and the little league pitcher is the size target they can hit. The more specific you are with the targets and your goals, the better chances you have of hitting them." Nick explained, he actually had a ton of metaphors and a lot of quotes. I was joking with Lesley earlier, and I said, I think that if you live in Nashville, like when you move in, they just give you a book of quotes because all the Nashville guys that we interview, they rattle off quotes. It's really impressive because they're totally applicable for the moment. But I'm like, I don't have that in my what is, I need more, I need quotes from Wayne Gretzky like he quoted at the very end. He said, you don't win the championship by accident, you choose it, and that was the goal that you wanted. So you do the work. In fact, the quote he said was just the Gretzky quote is, "You win the game before you even step on the ice." Right? And I was like, wow. Mindset, powerful confidence. I've got this. That's amazing to me. I mean, everything you do has got to be on purpose. So love it. What about you? Lesley Logan 20:27  Well, more quotes. He quoted Bruce Lee. Brad Crowell 20:30  He did. He also quoted Bruce Lee. Lesley Logan 20:31  By the way, I did a Bruce Lee exercise today in my Pilates session, because this other guy from Korea did it and I was like, and my teacher, Ken, was like, oh, Lesley, you could do that. And I was like, I, I'm gonna do it, obviously. And you know what, guys, I hadn't done it in like, 10 years, and I fucking did it. Brad Crowell 20:31  Nice. Lesley Logan 20:47  So we're channeling Bruce Lee today. Brad Crowell 20:49  We're channeling.Lesley Logan 20:50  He said, "You're casting spells on yourself with the words that you say." So when people ask Nick how he's doing, his response is, "I'm unstoppable."Brad Crowell 20:58  I'm unstoppable. Talk about an amazing response. Lesley Logan 21:02  Yes, I'm unstoppable. And by the way, it does make me think of Cafe Gratitude. It's like, I'm gonna honor the unstoppable bowl. And when they bring it to you, they're like, you are unstoppable.Brad Crowell 21:12  I mean, I made this decision a long time ago. When people ask me, what do I say? Lesley Logan 21:17  I'm amazing. Brad Crowell 21:17  I'm amazing. Yeah. Lesley Logan 21:19  You probably should stop saying when people say, what are you up to? You have to stop saying, "Drugs."Brad Crowell 21:23  Oh, maybe I have to stop saying drugs. Brad Crowell 21:25  You are casting a spell on yourself. Brad Crowell 21:26  That's been my quote for 25 years or my joke for 25 years. Lesley Logan 21:28  I know and people don't think that. They don't know that you're joking. They think that you're serious. Brad Crowell 21:32  So, what do you do? I used to just say drugs. Lesley Logan 21:34  Yeah. What do you do for a living? It's like, drugs. And like, they just stop, now, because they, now peopleBrad Crowell 21:40  Yeah, now they're like, can, can you? Is he? Lesley Logan 21:41  Well, because now so many drugs are legal, they think it's true. So like, you gotta, you have to come up with something better, because you're casting spells on yourself, and it's not good. Okay. He says at enough times he actually believes that everything takes repetition. And he talked about when people ask most people say, "I'm good." And he said, "Well, guess what? That's all you're gonna be." I'm good. I was like, oh, I don't want to just be good. I'll be fucking amazing. Brad Crowell 22:05  Yeah, I want to be unstoppable. Lesley Logan 22:07  Yeah, yeah. So, you know, everyone, just start looking up different—are those adjectives? What's unstoppable? Is that a verb? Brad Crowell 22:12  I have no idea.Lesley Logan 22:12  Is it an adverb? You guys, I cheated all through English class, so I'm just gonna tell you right now. I will never know. Sometimes I don't really know the differences semicolon and a colon. So. Brad Crowell 22:12  It's an adjective. Lesley Logan 22:14  It's an adjective. Well, look at me. I was around the first I should have just trusted myself. I should just had the confidence to just go, "It's an adjective." At any rate, you guys just look up adjectives and then pull out five that strike your fancy and try them on and say them enough times—you'll believe them. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 22:46  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 22:46  Thank you so much for listening to us today. This is amazing. I hope if you haven't yet listened to Nick.Brad Crowell 22:51  This is unstoppable. Lesley Logan 22:52  It's unstoppable. You know what this is? It's fucking awesome. This is one of the best podcasts you've ever listened to. I know it. So what are you gonna do with this episode? You're gonna share it with a friend. Brad Crowell 23:00  You are going to share it with a friend. Lesley Logan 23:01  You're gonna share it with a friend. We're gonna say it one more time. Share this with a friend. You can text it. You can tweet it, you can email it however you communicate. Brad Crowell 23:08  You can X it. Lesley Logan 23:09  You can carry-your-pigeon it to somebody and because this is how the show grows. And also check out what Nick's doing if that was inspiring for you. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 23:21  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 23:23  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. 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How can you address mental health challenges and improve your workplace environment? Join Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell as they explore Melissa Doman's expert strategies for navigating workplace dynamics with radical candor and effective communication. Learn why taking action is crucial and discover your options for creating a healthier work setting in today's recap episode.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How to address workplace bullies with direct communication strategies.The benefits of asking for help and using support networks effectively.Steps to translate awareness of mental health issues into concrete actions.How to use radical candor to enhance workplace communication.Implementing actionable steps to drive systemic change in your organization.Episode References/Links:Melissa Doman Episode 409Melissa Doman WebsiteYes, You Can Talk About Mental Health at Work by Melissa DomaneLevate Mentorship ProgramCambodia February 2025 RetreatOPC Website40 Days of 40 - OPC WebsiteProfitable Business Accelerator ProgramRadical Candor by Kims ScottKareen Walsh Episode 397  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  Learning, listening, understanding mental health at the workplace, and the things that you can do around radical candor is all really, really good stuff. But then you need to take a piece of that and break it down into an action that you can take because otherwise it's just a bunch of information. And if you put yourself into a place where it's like, I have to make this big dent, then that's probably also not going to happen because systemic change takes time. It just does. Lesley Logan 0:24  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 1:05  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the supportive convo I had with Melissa Doman in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that episode, you are missing out. You're missing out. You missed out on a very fun conversation. She's one of those guests I had to bring back because I've been watching her be it till she sees it and her business and life just growing before our eyes. And it's really fun to have those guests back. So if you haven't listened to episode from 103, 300 episodes ago, you should also listen to that one. But first, let's talk about today. Today is August 22nd 2024 and it's Never Bean Better Day. About this day. Never Bean B-E-A-N Better Day is on August 22nd, it gives us the perfect opportunity to enjoy and spread some bean Brad Crowell 1:54  Wuv.Lesley Logan 1:55  Wuv.Brad Crowell 1:56  W-U-V wuv. Lesley Logan 1:57  Wuv with our canine companions and others. Brad Crowell 2:00  Do you love me? Lesley Logan 2:02  Yeah. But what's the bean for? Brad Crowell 2:03  I don't know yet. Lesley Logan 2:04  By loving us unconditionally to being our listening ears and cuddle buddies, our furry friends have always upheld their reputable position as women's best friend, may I add, and are ever ready to be our lifelong companions registered therapy dogs like Bean, ohBrad Crowell 2:18  Bean is the example dog today. Lesley Logan 2:20  Okay, okay, share their wuv at hospitals, schools, reading programs, behavioral therapy, group sessions, domestic violence, homeless shelters, long-term care, Alzheimer's units and anyone else in need of an emotional facelift. Interesting choice of words. Yeah, so, I guess Bean.Brad Crowell 2:37  I'm pretty sure this should be never by own better day.Lesley Logan 2:41  I know. How's that? How does that work? Bean day. Brad Crowell 2:46  Bean is the name of the dog. So it's never by own better day.Lesley Logan 2:50  Yeah. What's never for? Brad Crowell 2:53  Never been better, Never been better. Never Bean better, is the plan of words. We're changing it to never by. Okay. Now I'm explaining the joke. Lesley Logan 3:02  Well, you know what guys, not every one of these days can make sense. So, you know.Brad Crowell 3:07  Well, it's about emotional support dogs and dogs that go in hospitals and stuff like that. We're big, big fans of canines in general, as you all know.Lesley Logan 3:16  Oh yeah, you know, you can get a dog that can tell if you need insulin, or can tell if you need a different vitamin, like you can train these dogs.Brad Crowell 3:24  Or if you're having a seizure. Lesley Logan 3:25  Yeah, you guys, there's so many of these dogs around now, and also, there's so many different organizations that could help if you don't have the funds to access one of these dogs on your own. Like, it's worth advocating for yourself and finding someone who's literally raising money to do this and give it to you. So you know, know that if you have a friend in need. Okay, so.Brad Crowell 3:42  You got a friend in me. Lesley Logan 3:44  In case you had it on your bingo card. Bean day, I don't think you get much out of this. Keep singing while I do the upcoming events and travel. Okay, you guys. So eLevate applications.Brad Crowell 3:57  Oh, actually, today, the 22nd, we're what? We're in L.A. We're heading to L.A. right now. We're driving. Lesley Logan 4:01  We're on our way to L.A. today. Brad Crowell 4:02  We're driving to L.A. Lesley Logan 4:03  Yes, we're going, I'm working with my mentors for the weekend. It's actually like my little Pilates vacation for me after the tour. So there was an opportunity to teach, and I said, thank you. I feel so seen and I would like to be a student because I all have, I've just been teaching, so I'm going to do that. So I may be with my mentor, but what's really fun is that I can tell you about my mentorship program. And my mentorship program is for teachers, and it is a really fun program going into our fifth round next year, and you can still apply. And also, Brad, like, loaded up, some awesome things you can get if you like, sign yourself up. So if you have questions about it, you'll actually get all those questions pretty much answered at lesleylogan.co/elevate. You can also take a fun class with us. You can hear from past eLevate members. And also you should know that when you do graduate, it's not over. I don't go see ya. Never want to see you again. Brad Crowell 4:57  Wouldn't want to be yah. Lesley Logan 4:58  You actually joined the alumni group and we do fun retreats together. So that's for you. That's eLevate, lesleylogan.co/elevate. Cambodia retreat. Holy freaking moly, it's August. That means we are so close to going to Cambodia for fall. But you can't come to that one because it's sold out. But you can come to the February one. Brad Crowell 5:16  Six months from now. Lesley Logan 5:16  Yes, six months. Brad Crowell 5:17  There's still six months. Actually, it's literally the 23rd to the 28th of Feb. So six months and a day, Lesley Logan 5:23  Six months and a day. Brad Crowell 5:24  From now, we're gonna be back in Cambodia. The time of recording this, there's still room to join us. So.Lesley Logan 5:29  And you know what? It's not too late, because really the best time to buy a flight is like three to four months before. So truly, this is the best time to sign up and snag your spot go to crowsnestretreats.com. That is crows with a S and nest with an S in the middle, and retreats with an S at the end. So. Brad Crowell 5:50  Thanks. Lesley Logan 5:51  Two words are plural. One's not. There you go. It's a dot com on that one. Try out OPC. You guys, do you know that OPC was made for you? I just did a really fun interview where someone was asking me about, how does OPC help people ditch perfection and also prioritize themselves first and have some self-care? And I was like, oh, because you're not supposed to be perfect when you do Pilates. You're supposed to just be in practice and we constantly remind you of that in every single class, while also providing tips and ways that you can get more depth and more out of an exercise, and then reminding you that if an exercise is not right for you yet, you get to do something that is and so even if you go to a studio already, did you know that you could also be an OPC member? That's right, you could go somewhere else and still do OPC with us on your other days.Brad Crowell 6:38  Wait a minute. Are you saying two things can happen at the same time?Lesley Logan 6:42  I am, I am, and so if you want to try us out, go to opc.me/40.Brad Crowell 6:49  Yeah and I have been kicking off another webinar here from Profitable Pilates, all about if you're feeling stuck with your money in your business, whether you're a super, super small business, or you have a brick and mortar with a full team. If you're feeling stuck with your money, come join me for a free upcoming webinar called the Accelerator program, studio business growth accelerator, go to P-R-F-I-T dot biz slash accelerator. Get yourself signed up. It's totally free, prfit.biz/accelerator. Lesley Logan 7:21  Profit without the O. Brad Crowell 7:22  That's right. Profit without the O. Thanks for saying that. Lesley Logan 7:24  Biz with an I-Z. there. Brad Crowell 7:26  (Inaudible).There, that's right, B-I-Zed. Lesley Logan 7:29  Yeah. And accelerator is how you spell it. But you know, sometimes you forget how many C's are in there. So just (inaudible) Brad Crowell 7:35  There's 27 C's in there. Lesley Logan 7:37  Shut up. Before we get into it with Melissa Doman, what's our audience question to answer this week?Brad Crowell 7:45  YouTube Pilates with L said Lesley, I am dead keen to do eLevate. I'm so interested in learning more about classical Pilates. I feel so amazing to finally feel like I'm getting it. How I wonder, did Joe work with injured clients, especially when supine or loaded flexion was contraindicated? There's a lot of big words.Lesley Logan 8:06  Yeah and I like the dead keen. I think that Brad Crowell 8:08  Dead keen. I'm dead keen.Lesley Logan 8:10  Why don't we say that in the States, I'm dead keen.Brad Crowell 8:12  Keen K-E-E-N.Lesley Logan 8:13  It would just turn and now the kids would just call it DK, I'm DK. Yeah. Okay. So here's the deal. I love how in eLevate, we actually get to explore how Joseph Pilates worked with contraindications inside the group, just based on the people who come becauseBrad Crowell 8:28  What is a contraindication? Lesley Logan 8:30  Oh, like, if you have a fusion in your back, then it is contraindicated to do flexion. Or, like, it's like, it's not, it's a no-no. That's what, you see, it's a no no. It's like, if you take a medication, there's other medications that we like contraindicated. So like, it's a no-no to do this with that. So for example, she is saying, like, supine or with loaded flexion. So let me just say, in eLevate. I don't go over like, contraindication by contraindication and (inaudible) because that would take years. And that's like, there are specialties.Brad Crowell 9:06  I have. 28 teeth. Are there any Pilates things that can't doLesley Logan 9:11  Okay. Nothing's contraindicated with that. You can do all the exercises. Lesley Logan 9:14  26?Lesley Logan 9:14  All of them, still can, still can. Brad Crowell 9:16  Three?Lesley Logan 9:17  Yeah, you might all three struggle with the towel exercise. I'm just gonna be honest, you might need more than three. Depends on where the three are. So, just so you know, in eLevate with all the teachers I do go over how Joseph Pilates thought about his work, that was that he that he shared, and how he taught it to people. And that will include going over things that are contraindicated based on what you ask and also the people in the group. And then what's cool is, when you graduate, we still talk about it. Someone just had someone come in who is actually paralyzed from the waist down. And so it's like, okay, what can I do with this person? Here's what I've done. Is there anything I'm missing? And so to answer your question, What did Joe do? Just like, real quickly, he avoided the things you're not supposed to. Just didn't do it. We don't have to fix people, you guys. And also, for those who are not teachers, like your Pilates instructor, should never tell you that they could fix you. And if they did, that's a red flag. What we are here to do is balance your imbalances, and when you balance your imbalances, what ends up happening is you have fewer aches and pains. Right now. As we record this, we're about to go to a chiropractor. My left hip is out of alignment. I can tell you that right now. And so I am feeling–because I fell–I'm feeling aches and pains in my body so when I move, there are just some limitations that I have. If I were to go see Joe, he's not gonna be like, oh, let me work on this left hip of yours. No, that's out of our scope. We're not PT, unless you are. So what he would instead do is work on the imbalances. And what is really cool is I did Pilates today with this out of the line with my hip, and I had way less pain throughout the day today than I did yesterday when I had my fall. Here's the deal. It's not that Pilates completely put it back together, but it balanced some imbalances that were causing that issue. And so that's our goal, and that's what Joseph Pilates would do. And eventually, over time, some of those aches, pains, injuries just go away. Sometimes you need extra help and other things, Pilates is not magic, but Joseph Pilates would not zero in on your little issue on your right pinky toe and, like, work it to death. He would work everything else. Brad Crowell 11:13  Do you believe it's magic? Lesley Logan 11:15  Yeah. And then also, you guys, I help you have the confidence to do that with your clients, I give you like the goal of eLevate is to help you see someone's imbalances, see someone's ache and pain, and actually trust the process and choose the right exercises for them. So that's what you do at eLevate. So if you're keen on that, you should sign up. Brad Crowell 11:33  If you're dead keen. Lesley Logan 11:34  If you're dead keen.Brad Crowell 11:35  That's right. Lesley Logan 11:35  And if and for the rest of you like seriously when it comes to Pilates, make sure your teacher is not like, micromanaging your right pinky toe. You've got other toes, so there's other parts of your body. You should be moving. We're about to do a YouTube video on this, and I'm like, there's no principles because you're just supposed to move. We have to be moving our bodies. If your Pilates class is not moving you enough, then you're in the wrong spot. So come to OPC. Okay, that was a bunch of shameless plugs. Lesley Logan 11:35  If you have questions, contact us. Let us know your question and we will happily work it into the pod. Pleasantly surprised, maybe you'll end up here. All right, stick around. We'll be right back.Lesley Logan 12:13  Okay, now let's talk about Melissa Doman. She's an organizational psychologist, former clinical mental health therapist and author of Yes, You Can Talk About Mental Health at Work, Here's Why (And How to Do It Really Well). Melissa specializes in teaching businesses leaders and individuals how to have realistic and constructive conversations about mental health, team dynamics and communication in the workplace. She's also known for her open and approachable leadership style, drawing from her experience with challenging managers. She said you have to address people who are negatively affecting your mental health at work or being a bully. And this is interesting because I was just talking to this about this with our agency members because they've had a, there's a couple people who've had clients who, like, won't, don't want to pay the late cancelation, and they're bullying them like, you're not a considerate person if you're charging me for this late cancelation policy, like (inaudible) late cancel. And I was like, no, no, they're a bully. They're actually the asshole. You're not the asshole. You told them the rules, they signed, they agreed to the rule, and now they're bullying you to not follow your own rules. And I said, you have to be comfortable. Brad Crowell 13:16  A.I.T.A. Lesley Logan 13:17  Yeah, they are the asshole. And (inaudible) says this all the time, I've repeated this before in the podcast, "We have to be comfortable making people as uncomfortable as they are making us." You have to get comfortable making the person uncomfortable, right? So you don't have to make this person uncomfortable at work, but you have to address this person is making my work experience negative, and it's affecting my mental health and my ability to do my job. And when we try to bottle it up and we keep it to ourselves, it doesn't get better. And by the way, your work is probably the one that's going to suffer, and then also you're going to get in trouble for suffered work and be like this person's been bullying me. That's too late now. It's too late to say that. You should have said that before. Brad Crowell 13:56  Yeah, she actually has a phrase. You'll have to go back and listen to her episode to actually get that phrase. She did, however, the high level overview of it was to pull them aside and say hey, I just need you to know how this is affecting me. You know how what you're doing and how you're doing is affecting me. She said this is really direct and pretty challenging, I acknowledge that. But sometimes it's necessary, it's needed, and it's going to help you stand up for yourself. You're going to feel better about yourself, the whole thing. Lesley Logan 14:32  Yeah, so we have a transcript so you can actually, like, copy paste and like, memorize that to have those conversations. But y'all, if you are working around someone who's affecting your mental health at work, you actually do have the right to say that this is happening. And if you're not feeling heard or supported by your superiors, then don't let people tell you that there's no good jobs out there. I have a client who constantly says how much she hates her job. And she's like, well, I'm not going to leave because the economy is bad. You guys, there are so many jobs out there and employers are doing everything they can to keep the employees they have. You need to know this. They're, like, really, like, they're, what other benefits can we throw at people so they stay in this job? So just trust that you are actually worth what you do. And there are people that need you out there, and there's awesome things you don't have to put up with it. We have a girlfriend who was absolutely being abused by her team at work, and when she finally said something, I'm gonna be out, she waited a long time, so when she finally said something, then they said oh well, she did this to me. And now and then, nothing got solved. Got this, like it sounds stupid, but you gotta say things when they first happen, because it doesn't get easier, it doesn't get better, right? And then by the time you feel like, oh my god, I'm at the end of my rope, I'm gonna say something. It's almost like there's nothing that they can actually do that's gonna make it better. You know, so, so stand up for yourself. Brad Crowell 15:53  Yeah and also, you know, some companies have an HR team, you can also talk to them. In this case, she's talking about directly with radical candor, approaching the person who's affecting you, and she said it also like her example in the episode wasn't necessarily about someone who's abusing you, but someone who says they're going to do something and is late, someone who doesn't actually finish the job, or is passing their work off onto you, or something like that.Lesley Logan 16:21  Yeah, all that is not fun for your mental health either. Brad Crowell 16:25  It is not. Lesley Logan 16:26  And by the way, Radical Candor is a book you should read it. It's really good.Brad Crowell 16:30  Yeah, okay, so I really enjoyed what she was talking about–asking for help. It's good to ask for help. She said, It doesn't matter how much of a badass you are trying to be. Everybody needs support, and this is a really difficult thing for small business owners–and myself included–definitely understand this, you know, the way that I was raised is it's a do it yourself world and you can do it all. And you should do it all because you have no money. Can't pay someone to do it for you anyway. So you should just figure it all out on your own. And so, I took that approach from childhood all the way into everything that I ever did from music into running companies. And the end of the day, it just eats more of your time and you don't ultimately have enough capacity to do all the things that need to happen and you end up being a bottleneck. So it doesn't matter how much of a badass you're trying to be. Everybody needs support. In her case, she said her husband very directly challenged her and said, "Okay, you no longer have the option to do all this stuff because it's now affecting me, and you have to have help. So we're going to find you an executive assistant who can support you." At first she was really reticent to pass things over, to relinquish control. But now she's like, how do I get this off my plate? Right? It's completely changed her approach to everything, because she's starting to see how well, maybe smoother, things can run for her company. It was one of the things that changed our business dramatically was when I realized that years in, I was still being the bottleneck, and then from there, when we shifted that, when I started to try to get out of these things that I had taken away from everybody else and was still doing, it actually allowed things to flow much more smoothly. It's a little bit counterintuitive at first, but it's also ego, you know, oh, I'm the only one that can do this part of it, whatever. Lesley Logan 18:24  I've mentioned this on the pod, and we have had four other episodes I've mentioned it, but like, if you watch the end of My Cousin Vinny, when he finds out that Marisa Tomei's character called in someone called him the judge from New York to, like, verify and validate the type of lawyer that he was, in, you know, his first case, and he got so mad at her. He's like, I wanted to win my case by myself. I wanted to win my first case by myself. And she's like, what if you won all of your cases, all of your cases, and at the end, you had to say, thank you. Oh my god, what a nightmare. And so that was just a really interesting thing that, like, whenever we're trying to do something ourselves, and you have you, like, actually ask for help, people are not gonna go, oh my god, LL asked for help. They're gonna remember, wow, it was so fun to be on LL's team to create this thing, I could be part of this creation. And then she said, thank you. Like, it's all it's like, these are amazing, amazing things. And so we have to just remember that asking for help is not actually about you. It's about sharing and it's actually about taking other people and saying hi, I see you as someone who can do this thing that I really want to do and I want to show my team. And it's actually really fucking cool. Anyways.Brad Crowell 19:43  Yeah, stick around. We're gonna cover those, Be It Action Items next. Brad Crowell 19:46  So let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What are the bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items that we could take away from your convo with Melissa Doman? All right, she said, "Hey, people take things the wrong way." Which is why it is so important to be super clear in your communication. We all interpret things based on our own experiences, usually, and so it's possible that someone said something to you, didn't know that they were touching a nerve, or vice versa, that you were maybe triggering something in them. She said before you're having a conversation with someone, usually about how they're affecting your mental health, she said it's important to self-reflect and ask what is it that I didn't like about this situation? She said that people can't read minds, obviously, so that's why clear communication is so necessary. Explain what's going on for you in this scenario, state what you want the others to do or not do with the information. Hey, now that I'm telling you this information, what would be really helpful for me is x, or it would really change things if you did x, right? Then highlight why you're bringing it up to them, deciding the most important things to tell them, so they don't get lost in the detail. So just go high level, right? They don't need a 10-year backstory. You could probably just say this is really affecting me because of some past history that I had, and just leave it at that, and then go on to explain what it is that they're doing and then how it's affecting you and what you would like them to do instead. And she said just avoid over complicating the conversation. She was sharing a story about her challenging the head of HR. She was brought in for a consulting job, and it was a short term gig. She's, I don't know, maybe she was with this company for a few months, or whatever, and everyone was treating her like an outsider in a really negative way. And she was working for the HR team, and she ended up finally challenging the head of HR and saying hey, do you see what you're doing here? This is super uncool, and I don't like it, and it's not fair to me, and I know I'm not part of the team the way that you guys are, but I'm still here to do a job, and this is what's coming across. So she said that's really hard to do. She's willing to be challenging that way, because she's taught herself how to do it over time, you know,. so.Lesley Logan 22:04  I love how she laid this out, because you could be either party in this scenario, but truly, like we had, I had someone come up to me and tell me something, but would give me zero specifics, none. So not even high level, just like, just generics about how we made her feel. And I said, okay, can you give me an example? I don't want to get into it. Okay, well, how would you like me to solve this problem? I don't know. And it's like, so here's the thing, there are assholes out there, but most people are not assholes, and they don't want you to feel bad at work. They don't want to be negatively impacting you. So I love this example because she actually says, how, what to say, explain what's going on for you, and state what you want others to do or not do. And then that way they can actually go, okay, let me think, how do we make this work? Here's how we can do this. I appreciate, like I, people are not mind readers, nor can they also, if the thing that they were doing with no negative intention cause negative impact, you then want them to create another thing that could maybe, like, it's important to kind of know, and that requires all of us to have a little bit more self-awareness and to go inward. Because, again, there are dicks out there, but not everyone is walking around wanting to trigger people or wanting to activate something in people. Most people want you to be the best version of yourself that's out there. Brad Crowell 23:20  Yeah. Well, what about you?Lesley Logan 23:21  So she said, when it comes to mental health at work, awareness is great, action is better. Brad Crowell 23:26  Awareness is great action is better. Lesley Logan 23:28  And you know what? We actually talked about that with Kareen's thing. She's like, manifestation is great, but you gotta take action on it. So hello, action. It's in our intro of the episode. So she talked about like, it's one thing to have the intention to do it, but it's another thing to create the impact and so and she also stressed that, like, you might not be living a big dent, but any dent is helpful. So what does this all mean? It means learning, listening, understanding, mental health, the workplace and the things that you can do–radical candor is all really, really good stuff–but then you need to take a piece of that and break it down into an action that you can take, because otherwise it's just a bunch of information. And if you put yourself into a place where it's like I have to make this big dent, then that's probably also not gonna happen, because systemic change takes time, just does. So if you have a business, or you're working at a company, and there's been something that's going on for a really long time, like just because they're made aware doesn't mean that you just made a thing that happens. So we've got to really do what we can to make the dents we need to, because over time, a dent can get bigger and bigger and bigger if we just keep working at it. So I really like that, because it's one thing for you to listen to this and be inspired by it, but you also, you know, taking action is always gonna be better. Brad Crowell 24:38  Action brings clarity. Lesley Logan 24:39  And it's the antidote to fear. You guys, I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 24:42  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 24:43  Thank you so much for listening to this episode today. You want action you can take after becoming aware? You can share this episode with your friend. Brad Crowell 24:50  We're gonna ask you what action to take right now? Lesley Logan 24:52  Right now (inaudible) guess if you wonder we're not gonna tell you exactly what would make this better. What would make this relationship better between you and me? Would be, if you share this with a friend. Brad Crowell 25:01  That's right. Lesley Logan 25:01  Share this. You could text it to them. You could, like, grab their phone and look for it for them, there's so many different ways you can listen to this episode. It could be on the OPC app. It could be on Apple, Spotify, you name it. Brad Crowell 25:11  You could text it to them every single day. Lesley Logan 25:13  You could, you could do that. You want to know what I get text every single day from campaigns so they clearly have no shame. You shouldn't either. All right, loves, until next time. Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 25:26  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 25:28  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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My guest Beth Sandlin has been an experienced Pilates teacher for over 20 years and the founder of Trifecta Pilates. Beth shares how she was diagnosed with acute myeloid leukemia – a form of cancer - when she was just 20 years old. Thankfully, after 5 years, she was in complete remission. She enjoyed exercising but it was not until she read the book Return to Life Through Contrology by Joseph Pilates that she realized that Pilates was not only a good exercise workout, but also a complete lifestyle system that can help you live your life to the fullest. She established her company Trifecta Pilates to take the holistic approach that was promoted by Joseph Pilates and incorporate the latest knowledge of physical conditioning, the nervous system, and total wellness.  Her online classes and programs provide many options for members to learn, grow, and develop their best lives.Website:   https://trifectapilates.com/Facebook: http://facebook.com/trifectapilatesInstagram:  http://instagram.com/trifectapilatesYouTube: http://youtube.com/trifectapilates

Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell recap the conversation with Matt Gerlach, an entrepreneur and breakthrough consultant focused on men's mental health and well-being. This recap explores the impact of unhealed trauma on loved ones and the critical role parents play in modeling self-care and teaching children the importance of boundaries. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why microchipping is essential for pet safety.Expansions to OPC fitness decks and where to purchase.How to embrace imperfection and self-acceptance.Impact of unhealed trauma on family members and future generations.The essential role of parents in teaching boundaries to their children.How to break the cycle of generational trauma and foster healing.How to take control of your life with goal-setting strategies. Episode References/Links:Barrels Deck FlashcardsOPC Summer TourCambodia February 2025 RetreatOPC $40 for 40 DayseLevate Mentorship ProgramPilates Studio Growth Accelerator Program 6-Step Guide to Creating Your Dream Life with Matt GerlachMatt Gerlach's PodcastLauren Zoeller Episode 388  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 0:53  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the growth-oriented convo I had with Matt Gerlach in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now and go back to listen to that one. And then come back and join us.Brad Crowell 1:11  Yeah.Lesley Logan 1:11  What a sweet guy. I like him a lot.Brad Crowell 1:13  It was a super thoughtful interview. Lesley Logan 1:14  Yeah, he's super vulnerable and authentic. Brad Crowell 1:18  That's how he described himself is he said he wasn't always vulnerable. And I mean, it definitely if that's something he intentionally worked on, it comes through in that interview. It was great. Lesley Logan 1:30  Some coaches in that space could be like a look at me. Look what I've done, you know, like just do it my way. And he's definitely like, I'm on this journey and here's what's helped me. And it's more of a guide. And I really appreciate that about him. So today is August 15th, 2024 and it's Check the Chip Day. Brad Crowell 1:47  That's right. Lesley Logan 1:48  About this day, Check the Chip Day is celebrated annually on August 15th. It's that time of the year when we raise awareness regarding the importance of microchipping. Brad Crowell 1:56  Microchipping. Lesley Logan 1:57  Which greatly helps in reuniting missing pets with their owners. In fact, every second a pet family pet is lost with only one in 10 ever being found. Every second a family pet is lost and only one in 10 are ever found. There's a fucking lot of seconds in a day. So on one tenth. Oh my god. This is very depressing.Brad Crowell 2:17  That's why we're raising awareness. Check the Chip Day.Lesley Logan 2:20  Approximately 10 million pets are lost annually.Brad Crowell 2:23  Ten million.Lesley Logan 2:24  Microchipping provides peace of mind to pet owners as it confirms the safety of their beloved pets. Gone are the days when pets were kept in cages now, they can be free and out of harm's way. Okay.Brad Crowell 2:34  Yeah. Okay. So FYI, they, I, I tried to figure out the best way to check your chip. Okay. Cause if it's Check Your Chip Day, how do we do it? Ultimately you need to have a special RFID reader and your cell phone can't do the job. So there are a couple of apps that connect to a reader, but you got to buy the damn reader first. So I really went down the rabbit hole on here. Basically, take your, take your dog to the vet, get the chip read, right? Get that number. And then here's the, here's the problem. You might have a chip, but the chip still has to be registered with a system.Lesley Logan 3:11  And also a lot of people don't update their contact information. Brad Crowell 3:16  They almost never do. Lesley Logan 3:16  So they move things like that. I follow one of the rescue, dog rescues out here and after the 4th of July, they got in 400 pets in a day, 400 pets turned in, most of them had chips. And so, first of all, if you do find a pet, go to a vet, just drive to a vet and have it checked, do not go to a pound and things like that, because some of those are kill shelters, and if they, even if they have a microchip, they have a limited space, so take them to a vet, and then that way they can scan the thing, and then they can hopefully contact someone, but everybody, you need to update. Brad, are ours updated?Brad Crowell 3:55  Yeah. Lesley Logan 3:57  Okay.Brad Crowell 3:57  Yeah, there's a couple of different databases. You can just search for pet, you know, pet chip databases or microchip databases. Cause it depends on the chip. Sometimes the chip depends on the database. Like for example, we have two of our dogs are in one database and then one is in a different database. But they need to be in a database.Lesley Logan 4:15  Oh, cause we had two dogs in California and one in Nevada. Brad Crowell 4:17  That's right. Lesley Logan 4:18  So also another way you can do this, you guys, we have them chipped and we have them, what do we call these things?Brad Crowell 4:24  Air tagged. Lesley Logan 4:24  Air tagged. Brad Crowell 4:25  Yeah. We also put air tags on ours.Lesley Logan 4:26  And we have air tags and they have these cute little things that go on their collars and the air tags are great because whenever we get out of the van on tour, it goes, you've left three items behind. So it's always August. It's like, you've left. It's like, he's right here. Like, don't panic me about the one that runs off.Lesley Logan 4:34  You've left your item, Gaia, behind.Lesley Logan 4:46  Yeah. So anyways, do both, double dose it.Brad Crowell 4:50  Yeah. Double dose it. So next time you go to the vet or even just go to that now.Lesley Logan 4:56  I would not wait. If you have no idea, if you're sitting here listening to us going, I wonder if mine is like, don't, you'll be so pissed if in three days, your dog gets out and then you're like, they told me, it's like, yeah, we did.Brad Crowell 5:09  Handle it. All right. Here's what's coming up in events and travel. A summer tour. We are on the road right now. As we speak we are probably leaving St. Louis and driving to Kansas city. By the time you're listening to this we have. Today's the 15th, tomorrow the 16th. We're in Kansas city on the 18th. We're in Colorado Springs, Colorado. If you are in either of those places and you want to come hang out go to opc.me/tour, opc.me/tour. That's it for the summer tour at this point, and then we're going to be doing a winter tour leaving in December but we're still working on all the specifics for that. So right now, the last two stops are going to be Kansas City and Colorado Springs. After that, we are still taking applications for elevate. That's Lesley's mentorship program. It's a Pilates mentorship program. It is nine months long. It is an amazing opportunity where Lesley gets to pass on all the information she learned from her teacher, Jay Grimes, who literally studied with Joseph Pilate. He taught all the stuff he knows. Lesley Logan 6:10  Pilate? Just Joseph Pilate? Brad Crowell 6:11  Just Joseph Pilate. Just Joseph, one Pilate. Lesley Logan 6:14  He's one Pilate. Brad Crowell 6:15  Yeah, he only has one. Joseph Pilates and he, Jay, passed on all the information that he knows to Lesley. She's literally been working with him for 12 years. Something like that. 10 years, at least 10, more than 10. Lesley Logan 6:27  Yeah, yeah. Brad Crowell 6:28  Yeah. 12 years. You're super young, babe. I love you so much. And she gets to pass on all this information. Go to lesleylogan.co/elevate. You'll be able to say that you're classically trained. You're going to be a third generation teacher. You're going to be able to connect all the dots for all the different pieces of equipment. It's going to help you with class planning. You're not going to talk as much when you teach. It's going to be great.Lesley Logan 6:46  I think the official would be 10 years, guys. Brad Crowell 6:48  Ten. Lesley Logan 6:49  Official. Yeah. Yeah.Brad Crowell 6:50  She's still doing the math all right. It's all right. Lesley Logan 6:52  I just want to, I don't want to lie, you know.Brad Crowell 6:54  We don't want you to lie. Okay. So, then, we are going to Cambodia in February 2025 crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com. Y'all know it's my favorite thing to do of all the things that we do. It is an amazing experience. It is incredible trip. We're going to go romp through the jungle. We're going to eat great food, local food. We're going to do some Pilates. We're going to meet up amazing people. It's a journey and it's an incredible journey and we want you to join it with us. Come stay at our house, crowsnestretreats.com. All right. You want to take the next two?Lesley Logan 7:26  Yeah, because I want you to be an OPC member. You guys, it is one of the best places to do your Pilates because guess what? You can do Pilate, you can do your Pilates anywhere you can lay down and OPC is, I know you're like, I won't do it online. I have to go to a place. You can still go to a place and you can be an OPC member because here's the deal. You need to do more Pilates than you think. Once a week isn't going to cut it. Our classes are 30 minutes long, but finishing is optional. And we have monthly classes that are 50 minutes long. We hold you accountable because classes do disappear, but as of last month, you actually have the weekly classes access for two weeks for each class. So each week we drop a new class. But you have access to this week's class and last week's class. Don't you like how creative those names are? This week's class and last week's class. Yeah. And one of our teachers today was like, if you're like, Oh my god, I'm overwhelmed. Which one do I do? She closed her eyes and she hits click. So there you go. Thanks, Christine, for that. So opc.me/40 gets you 40 days of OPC for $40. You can quit if you don't like it, but hey, you might love it.Brad Crowell 8:28  You might just love it. Lesley Logan 8:29  And by the way, it can be part of that 2 percent of every day you dedicate to you. And then if you are a Pilates instructor and you are feeling like your business is just not making the money that you want, then I want you to join Brad for our free webinar. It 's called Accelerator and it's really amazing because by the way, there is money in Pilates and you can make it and you are capable of doing it. And no, you don't have to do crazy memberships or do wild things on social media. Brad Crowell 8:56  Grow a million followers. Lesley Logan 8:58  There's a path for every single person to make the money they want to make, especially when you have, when you're armed with the knowledge on how to do it. So go to prfit.biz/accelerator prfit.biz/accelerator.Brad Crowell 9:09  That's profit without the O prfit.biz/accelerator.Lesley Logan 9:14  All right. We're going to get into this episode with Matt, but before we do, we have an audience question.Brad Crowell 9:18  We sure do. Esta Zero on YouTube says, Hey you've been talking about these flashcards. Where do I find them?Lesley Logan 9:27  Yeah, I was like, oh, this is an easy question. You guys, you just go to onlinepilatesclasses.com and if you go to the shop, it'll say flashcards. Brad Crowell 9:36  Yeah, or you go to opc.me/flashcards. That'll also do it. So directly to the spot.Lesley Logan 9:40  And right now, this episode is coming out. You'll have access to four decks of the five we've worked on so far. The fifth one is the Barrels deck and that one is, I think you can buy it, you just have to wait. That one will be out probablyBrad Crowell 9:56  Barrels will be shipping in Lesley Logan 9:57  September, October? Brad Crowell 9:57  Eight to ten weeks from, yeah, next week.Lesley Logan 10:01  Yeah. So, yeah. So we're probably looking at like Brad Crowell 10:03  we're probably looking at like timber. We're looking like Lesley Logan 10:05  October. Brad Crowell 10:05  Yeah, beginning of October.Lesley Logan 10:07  But also here's fun news. The mat deck got a makeover. Brad Crowell 10:12  It sure did. Got a facelift. Lesley Logan 10:14  Yeah. Facelift. It got fillers. We got more exercises in there. Brad Crowell 10:21  That's great. Lesley Logan 10:22  It's actually youthful. Cause it got, it went from its vintage vibe to other rebrand that is so  Brad Crowell 10:28  It's hip, young and cool now. Lesley Logan 10:29  Hip, young and cool. And it has standing exercises in there. We have more prep exercises in there. It's just really, really fun. So if you haven't got the mat deck yet, you should get this new one, which is probably shipping like as we speak, because it was eight weeks ago, four weeks ago, so it's probably in three to four weeks still, but. Yeah. It's happening.Brad Crowell 10:51  Yeah. We're talking end of August.Lesley Logan 10:53  It's a little beefier, but still that same great feel that will fit in your gym bag. We'll go on a trip with you. All the good things. So you can get those. Also. Oh my god. I left the cat out of the bag right now. We are reprinting the Reformer Deck and I added the related mat exercises to the Reformer Deck. Brad Crowell 11:11  What? Lesley Logan 11:12  I know.Brad Crowell 11:13  So we've also given a facelift to the Reformer card.Lesley Logan 11:16  It's a tiny one. Micro lift, a mini lift. It was a mini lift. Brad Crowell 11:20  It's a lash extension. Lesley Logan 11:21  Yeah. That's really what it is. You're correct. You are so correct. And then because because my team, it just wants to finish this, the flashcard project. I'm already working on deck number six.Brad Crowell 11:35  It's only been five years. Only.Lesley Logan 11:37  Four. Four. We came up with the idea in 2019, but I didn't write the mat deck until February of 2020 and then the pandemic happened. But in the later part of the pandemic of 2020, we released the Mat Deck. So currently it has been four official years.Brad Crowell 11:52  Okay. That's fair. That's fair. Four years. Five decks.Lesley Logan 11:54  But the sixth deck will be the fifth year. And then, oh my god, Meredith's like, maybe you do an expansion deck. And I was like, shh. You shut your mouth, you zip it.Brad Crowell 12:02  You just wait up. Hold up.Lesley Logan 12:03  You zip it. Cause I have some ideas of what I want to do with these cards. Like when you, I, I want it, I want, I wouldn't do like a text message that like sends you cards that like, it's almost like a tarot reading, but like the cards are laid out to like create an exercise. Brad Crowell 12:19  That could be fun. Lesley Logan 12:19  Isn't it fun like today's that you're reading today is this? We make it all like Shamany. Brad Crowell 12:26  All right. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Lesley Logan 12:28  Anyway, stop.Brad Crowell 12:29  If you, if y'all have any ideas on how you would want us to work with you on these cards.Lesley Logan 12:34  No, we're not making a digital deck. Brad Crowell 12:37  No, we're not doing a digital deck. Lesley Logan 12:38  So you can ask and it's.Brad Crowell 12:39  Although I, I have been tempted to do a, a full app that, that, that's interesting. That could be interesting.Lesley Logan 12:47  No, we have an app and they can watch the videos in there. No. Lesley Logan 12:50  They can't watch the videos. Lesley Logan 12:51  No. No, no, the cards are the way they are, but I may help people put building blocks together is the thing that I would be interested in doing. And since I'm the one doing it, this is what I want to do. So let me know if you like that idea and if your idea sucks. Keep it to yourself.Brad Crowell 13:10  Stick around, we'll be right back. Okay, now let's talk about Mr. Matt Gerlach. Matt is an entrepreneur, an author, and an owner of a breakthrough consulting business netting over a million dollars in annual revenue. He focuses on men's mental health and well being. Matt draws from his own experiences to guide clients through their struggles. His work emphasizes the importance of self-worth, setting boundaries, goal setting, and breaking the cycles of trauma. And generationally, too. You know, I thought it was really cool that he said, I'm the first one in my family to break this cycle, right? Super aware of that. And that's pretty cool. I think that's awesome. Lesley Logan 13:53  I know. It's really, it's really amazing. When he first, when we first met him and he spoke, I was like, wow, beautiful. He like, like his soul is beautiful. You know, like, it's just really, really amazing. So he said, there's never a destination when we're perfect. Like, like, there's just not like, like perfect doesn't get, you don't get to stop, you know? And so what he said is his biggest thing is that he, that he's ever done is he. Brad Crowell 14:17  I think he said, I think he said this. Lesley Logan 14:20  Yeah. Yeah. And if you're not watching YouTube, then you don't know what just happened. So that was not for the folks at home, babe. But we have a hat is really what it all is. That was a little of a merch, you know, thing. It's, 'Perfect is boring,' it's what the hat said. So he said the biggest thing he's done is to learn to love and accept himself in learning and loving this, to accept himself was to recognize that there's nothing wrong with him. And I really love that. You guys, there's nothing wrong with you. Like, you are enough. We have, oh, another merch.  Brad Crowell 14:52  Another merch.  Lesley Logan 14:53  We are, but who knew? I didn't know this today, but we have a sweatshirt that says, you are enough. You've done enough today. When you look at it in the mirror and then on the back, it tells the person behind you, you've done enough today. But at any rate there's nothing wrong. And I think that's really a hard thing because yes, of course self-growth and self-development is an amazing thing. There's always something you can learn about yourself. But to think that you are less than, and then you just have to be better, and once you're better, then things are better. Actually, the more you love and accept yourself, the better all things are. You know? You bring a whole different vibe to every group you're in, a whole different, you have less insecurity in conversations and so deeper conversations can happen. It's just really amazing. And so he also did talk about boundaries, you know, I'm a big fan of boundaries. And he said that it was because he really focused on boundaries and advocating for himself. He was able to take his business into a million dollar paycheck for himself. And that's also cool because most people think I gotta say yes to everyone. I gotta people-please. I gotta work all the time. No, I can't have boundaries because then people won't like me and then I won't make any money. And that's not true because he fucking made it work. Million dollar a year paycheck. I, yeah, I love that. Brad Crowell 16:01  Yeah. I mean, that's, actually, his story was that when he first started his business, he didn't have any boundaries. And his clients were like, flying him all over the place and he was doing all this stuff and he was getting really, he was building a lot of resentment when asked to handle things that he probably, my guess is, had advised against, they did it anyway, and he's like, what the fuck, now I have to clean up your mess and it was building a lot of resentment, and that's because he didn't have boundaries at the time. And then over time started to shift all that and change it. So, I mean, what an awesome thing to be able to help guide people through setting those boundaries you know, for his clients with his clients, really cool. One thing I loved, he said is that his mission, his, he talked about his mission, helping unhealed trauma. And he mentioned that trauma, when left unhealed, you think it's not affecting anyone or you think it's not affecting you, but it is, it's actually being passed to your loved ones. It's being passed to the people in your immediate circle. Whether you realize it or not, we are, we are passing it along and whether we're intentionally doing it or not, we are passing it along. So that was actually kind of shocking to me. I was like, never thought about that. He highlighted the time we're in right now where the word generational trauma is becoming a lot more prevalent. We're, we're becoming a lot more aware of it. And that's why I found this impactful is because my parents don't seem like they're traumatized people, but I definitely learned things from them that I had to choose to part ways with later on in my life. And it's taken me a long time to understand how I was thinking, why I was thinking it that way, and then make the decision to no longer think that way. Not to tell too long of a story here, but generally a lot to do with money and the way that I think about money. Was definitely, I adopted it from my, my parents. The irony is I never actually learned how to handle money. What I got from them was the emotional element of money. And it was negative. There's never enough money, right? Save every penny you got because you're never going to have enough money. And so I never learned. I learned how to save, you know, but I didn't actually do it. But I learned about that. But I didn't learn how money growth worked. And so it created this weird fear around it. And I don't think my parents meant to do that. That wasn't something that they, but it was, it was clearly something that, you know, they adopted, too.Lesley Logan 18:34  And also just speaking of what parents could do. So many parents don't make time for themselves because they're like, oh, I want to do things with my kids. Do you know the best thing you could teach your child is that you, boundaries. Like I, in the morning, I spend time with myself. You get to spend time with yourself and we all are allowed and all deserve time to go inward and think about ourselves. You want to, you want to pass something on, pass on boundaries.Brad Crowell 19:01  Yeah. I mean, imagine, I mean, this is one of the things that we encourage all of our OPC you know, clients to do is say, hey family, I love you so much. Right now is my time to practice Pilates. I'm only asking for 2 percent of my day and I'm going to do that right now. And when this is happening, I'm doing that.Lesley Logan 19:21  And also, do you want to know what else you can do? They can join you. They just can't talk to you. Brad Crowell 19:25  Right. Lesley Logan 19:25  So, Emily, our neighbor who we did our pop up at her store, I sent her a workout the standing workout from my YouTube channel and she posted, her friend and her doing the same workout. They've never done it before. Brad Crowell 19:39  Cool. Lesley Logan 19:39  They're following along with me. And guess what? One of their daughters just came right up and just started doing right behind them. Brad Crowell 19:44  That's so cool. Lesley Logan 19:45  Didn't interrupt them. Didn't say, hey, can I have this? Like just started doing it because. Brad Crowell 19:49  I love that. Lesley Logan 19:50  They are an example of like taking care of their selves and like, that's important. And so kids just catch on to these good things and they'll catch on to the shit too.Brad Crowell 19:59  Yeah. I love that. When you don't address trauma you are passing it on. And he's, he said he emphasizes the importance of negotiating goals and making achievable plans, focus on goal-setting with his clients, also articulates their goals and overcome limiting belief. And he said, it's really being able to take control over your life and realize that you have agency in building the life that you want and making changes. You know, we totally agree. That's exactly why we created our coaching program, our fitness business coaching program, which is called Agency. It is on purpose. You know, so couldn't agree more. Love that. And there's so many bunch of different ways you can process trauma.Lesley Logan 20:39  You can also reach out to Matt and see what options he's offering and also Brad Crowell 20:43  Actually he is offering a 30-minute call to work with him. Lesley Logan 20:47  Yeah. Brad Crowell 20:48  So, and, and here's, here's the thing, you know, it was working mostly with men, but I'm sure he'll take your call too.Lesley Logan 20:54  Yeah, I'm sure he will. And also like, if you're listening to this and you have a man in your life, send them this episode because you don't have to be the one to tell them what to do. They can figure it out for themselves.Brad Crowell 21:03  That's true. But, we'll tell him, hey, your wife gave you this episode on purpose so that you can book a call with Matt.Lesley Logan 21:10  We could just tell, we just do that. Well then thank your wife. Brad Crowell 21:13  Thank you, wife. Lesley Logan 21:15  Happy life. Happy wife. There you go. Brad Crowell 21:17  Stick around. All right, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Matt Gerlach? He said, just to keep going, you need to stay on the journey and celebrate the small wins along the way. Perfectionism is a very real thing. We've talked about perfectionism so much on this pod. I loved in his three steps that he was talking about. Perfectionism was like number one and he said, you got to let it go. And he said, it's probably the hardest thing. So this is like, even though it's step one, it's still challenging to do. And ironically, I found it, I found it really funny that you said, I call myself a recovering perfectionist because I think the idea of. Getting rid of perfectionism is the perfectionist in me . So I'll call myself the recovering perfectionist. I agree. You know, like I'm also, I'm healed. I'm no longer perfect. Alright. Which is the perfect form of, like it's.Lesley Logan 22:18  That's just perfectionism. Yeah. I'm, by the way guys, I'm reading this book on perfectionism and it's irritating the fuck outta me . And I had written to the woman saying, I want her on the pod on. And I, if she comes on the pod. I, I have several questions for her because like, she's basically saying to own your perfectionism, but to let go of the malignant parts and like, keep the like healthy parts. And I'm like, but isn't that like being a human with like, like, isn't that just using your strengths? Like there are strengths that you're, I'm just like, I'm struggling with it. Anyways, I'm a couple of girlfriends are reading it. We're all texting about it. And I just, I'm like. No, I, I don't. She's like, I don't have to call yourself a recovering perfectionist. And I'm like, yeah, I do. And it's not like, I'm like, I'm not using it as like, oh, don't mind me. I'm recovering perfectionist. I'm not using that. No, it's just like, it's a reminder. oh, let that shit go. What basically, Matt's Be It Action Item, we got to let it go. Like that's, I'll let it go.Brad Crowell 23:13  And, and being vulnerable, you know, he said he said, listen, you know, something he's been working on for a long time. And he still feels like he's only penetrated 10% of this perfectionism wall that he has built around himself. So, you know, don't beat yourself up. But it's something, the more you focus on it the more aware of it you'll be and the easier it will be to go I'm doing it again, doing it again. So yeah, what about you?Lesley Logan 23:40  He said, you need to talk to someone about what's going on. And it's really true. Like things grow in the dark, like in the darkness, but when you shed light on it, like it can kill all that bad stuff. And shedding light on it is talking to someone and very, most importantly, he said, select wisely. And so here's the deal, like, absolutely, you can reach out to Matt because if he's not a person for you, I'm sure he has resources for you. So that's what I would do if we've had other guests on in a similar vein, like, reach out to them. These are people who have resources and they have ideas. We are, we are not people who do like, therapy or somatic work we just know people who do and so, but he, you have to select wisely because I think people go, oh, I tried therapy and it didn't work for me. There are so many different types of therapy. And there are soBrad Crowell 24:29  You just had a deep dive with Lauren Zoeller about somatics versus talk versus, you know. Yes.Lesley Logan 24:36  Yes. And there's like, people are doing EMDR. They're doing all this different stuff. So trust your, don't trust your gut if you're like, I don't know, this person's listening to me. I was my person. Go the next person. And I know that's hard. I know, especially when you are finally aware that you are trying to deal with your trauma and it's affecting your life negatively. We want it to like fix it tomorrow. And all of these people might have wait lists or like time, but just know that the fact that you've acknowledged you have this help and that you are on the journey to find someone. Do not let the first one or two people who don't feel like they're a great match, stop you from doing this. Keep searching, keep looking, it's, it's, it, you are worth it. And so use this free call. We have the link. Brad Crowell 25:19  Yeah, it'll be in the show notes. Lesley Logan 25:21  Yeah. So check it out. Go check out Matt Gerlach. Share this with a friend, share this with a dude in your life who we've had Michael Unbroken on and like other people, we've a lot of men in our lives who like, I think are really cool people like Matt, they've done work and they're on this journey and they're always uncovering themselves. They're always learning and growing. And so it can seem like that's what everyone is doing, but also like they did, they've been doing it for years and it took just the acknowledgement and the first step. So it is possible for the people in your life to take that first step. Sometimes as soon as ready, the teacher appears and maybe this episode or other episodes will help ready them. You know, they might hear something in his story that gets them to go, oh, hey, wait, that's me. That's not normal? You know, like that, you know, like you said, neither one of our parents were actually very like textbook traumatizing to us.Brad Crowell 26:13  I'm the problem. It's me.Lesley Logan 26:14  Yeah. But like, you know what I mean? Like when we think about like people like, oh, I like lost my parents and like, this person killed this person in front of me.Brad Crowell 26:23  It's not like my parents were abusive or anything like that. But still. Yeah. And, and actually he mentioned there's like, there's a, there's a big difference between big T trauma and little T trauma, right? Like if you went to war or there's some tragic incident that happened in your, in your life and your childhood or whatever versus like, you know, he, his example was, you know, maybe your uncle yelled at you for doing something stupid when you were a kid and you know, and that stuck with you. You know, and it's been affecting you all this time, subconsciously, that's like little t trauma kind of stuff. Lesley Logan 26:54  So, yeah. Yeah. So come on, take them up on that. You guys share this with a friend and until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 27:02  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 27:04  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 27:47  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 27:52  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 27:56  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 28:03  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 28:07  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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In this episode Socrates engages Marlys Yvonne of Ara Pilates + Movement to explore why Pilates is having its moment, the value of group fitness, the importance of finding movement that works for each of our unique bodies, and how to live each day with more "zest and pleasure," as Joseph Pilates would say.

Send us a Text Message.Dale Matzkow is a seasoned Pilates instructor based in Juno Beach, Florida. With a background spanning several decades, Dale has trained under various prestigious instructors and integrated both classical and contemporary methods into her practice. Dale began her journey with Pilates in the mid-80s and has since dedicated herself to teaching and expanding her knowledge. She regularly teaches mat Pilates and is recognized for her expertise in adapting workouts to suit both novices and seasoned practitioners.Visit Dale on her website: https://www.purepilatesnyc.com/Follow her on IG: https://www.instagram.com/purepilatesnyc/Key Takeaways:Historical Insights: Discover the origins of Pilates, developed by Joseph Pilates during World War I, and its evolution into a renowned fitness method.Classical vs. Contemporary Pilates: Learn the key differences between classical Pilates, which adheres closely to Joseph Pilates' original teachings, and contemporary approaches that incorporate modern advancements in bodywork.Benefits of Pilates: Understand how Pilates helps in injury recovery and improves overall strength, flexibility, and body awareness.Thanks for listening to this episode. Check out:

Send us a Text Message.Many believe it's the mind that builds the body. Joe Pilates understood this, but did he understand his own mind? On this 100th episode of All Things Pilates, I wanted to present something a little different for you. Last year, Gareth Cornwall, a psychotherapist who is our guest today, sent me an email expressing his appreciation for this podcast. Well, it got me thinking about the role our psychology plays in the health of our body and I wondered how Gareth might have treated someone like Joseph Pilates who experienced so much childhood trauma and adversities later in life. So on this special episode, Gareth will take us through some of the process of what it might have been like had he treated or even just made observations about Joseph Pilates. As Gareth says, “Part of reclaiming life after trauma is a return to control - and certainly 'Contrology' seems to have a really positive impact on that journey.About Darien Gold ~ https://www.dariengold.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/darien_gold_pilates_expertFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/dariengoldMusic credits ~ Instagram: @theotherjohnmayer Email Gareth Cornwall ~ pilates.evidence@outlook.comSupport the Show.

In this episode of the Pilates Lounge podcast, Katie Crane talks with Lisa Jackson, Lisa is a Principal Trainer under the Pilates Alliance Australasia and a Continuing Education Teacher and mentor.  She is also the Faculty teacher for the internationally recognised Buff BonesBadge Registered outline Osteoporosis program for Australia and has been the Brisbane Pilates teacher of Cirque Du Soleil for Totem in 2015, Kooza in 2016 and Kurios in 2020.     Lisa began her Pilates journey in 2001 whilst living in Los Angeles.2003 Lisa trained at the Physicalmind Institute in Los Angeles and New York.  Returning to Australia in 2006, her passion for learning and a desire to further explore Joseph Pilates' work led her to Sally Anderson, the Founder and Director of Pilates International (PilatesITC).   Lisa has a vibrant personality and infectious passion for Pilates and movement that resonates in all that she does. Her teaching philosophy is client-centric, emphasising correct movement patterning, posture awareness, and general well-being. She is dedicated to seeing growth and change both for her clients and any teachers she is mentoring.   In this Conversation, Katie and Lisa discuss bone health and osteoporosis. They cover topics such as the importance of bone health, the differences between osteoporosis and osteopenia, factors that affect bone density, and exercises to avoid or modify for individuals with low bone density.  They also emphasize the need for ongoing exercise and lifestyle choices to maintain bone health.   Takeaways Osteoporosis is a common skeletal disorder characterized by compromised bone strength, while osteopenia refers to low bone density. Factors that affect bone density include genetics, lifestyle choices, age, and hormonal changes. Maintaining bone health requires regular exercise, particularly weight-bearing and resistance exercises, as well as a balanced diet. Individuals with low bone density should avoid or modify exercises that involve loaded flexion, rotation, or lateral flexion. It is important to address bone health early in life and continue to prioritize it throughout all stages of life. Avoid loaded flexion exercises for individuals with osteoporosis Focus on strength training, impact training, and balance/core work for bone health Incorporate upright work and add weight to stimulate bone mineral density Empower individuals with poor bone density to enjoy movement and incorporate loaded exercises Continuously learn and adapt in the Pilates journey       Connect with Lisa Jackson Social Media: @lisajacksonpilates Website: https://lisajacksonpilates.com.au       Take advantage of your FREE gift! Claim it now here: https://www.thepilatesprofessional.com.au/free-gift-workshop   Unlock Your Pilates Potential! Take This FREE 60-second Quiz To Find Out ”What's your Pilates Personality? https://go2.bucketquizzes.com/sf/75440977   Subscribe to our biweekly Pilates Muse newsletter for exclusive updates. https://www.thepilatesprofessional.com.au/the-pilates-muse-publication  

Kathleen Stanford Grant (1921-2010) was a professional dancer turned Pilates pioneer. After a serious knee injury, she trained with founder Joseph Pilates to recover and discovered a lifelong love of the exercise program. Kathy became one of only two people he ever certified directly to teach Pilates and helped bolster its popularity in the late 20th century.  For Further Reading:  The Story Of My Song: Kathy Grant Documentary | Pilates Anytime The Legacy of Kathy Grant – by Kathy Corey Lori Harvey Is Just the Start of a Black Pilates Legacy  Pilates Masters Kathy Grant and Ron Fletcher Share Thoughts and Memories of Joseph and Clara Pilates   This month we're celebrating the women who performed physical and mental feats in sports. They overcame societal barriers, personal struggles, and fierce competition to pursue their dreams of glory. We're talking about Athletes. History classes can get a bad rap, and sometimes for good reason. When we were students, we couldn't help wondering... where were all the ladies at? Why were so many incredible stories missing from the typical curriculum? Enter, Womanica. On this Wonder Media Network podcast we explore the lives of inspiring women in history you may not know about, but definitely should. Every weekday, listeners explore the trials, tragedies, and triumphs of groundbreaking women throughout history who have dramatically shaped the world around us. In each 5 minute episode, we'll dive into the story behind one woman listeners may or may not know–but definitely should. These diverse women from across space and time are grouped into easily accessible and engaging monthly themes like Educators, Villains, Indigenous Storytellers, Activists, and many more. Womanica is hosted by WMN co-founder and award-winning journalist Jenny Kaplan. The bite-sized episodes pack painstakingly researched content into fun, entertaining, and addictive daily adventures. Womanica was created by Liz Kaplan and Jenny Kaplan, executive produced by Jenny Kaplan, and produced by Grace Lynch, Maddy Foley, Brittany Martinez, Edie Allard, Lindsey Kratochwill, Adesuwa Agbonile, Carmen Borca-Carrillo, Taylor Williamson, Sara Schleede, Paloma Moreno Jimenez, Luci Jones, Abbey Delk, Hannah Bottum, Lauren Willams, and Adrien Behn. Special thanks to Shira Atkins. Original theme music composed by Miles Moran. Follow Wonder Media Network: Website Instagram Twitter See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, Katie Crane, Elaine Ewing, and Sean Gallagher, Pilates history buffs, discuss the importance of preserving the history of Pilates and the original equipment used by Joseph Pilates. They emphasise the significance of understanding the history of Pilates to have a deep knowledge of the method and to impart that knowledge to students.  They also discuss the differences between using original Pilates equipment and modernised equipment, highlighting the impact of foam density and the importance of maintaining the integrity of the original apparatus. They mention unique pieces of equipment, such as the bench mat, that are not commonly used in studios today.    Elaine and Sean also touch on the original Pilates studios, including the 8th Avenue studio in New York and Joe's studio in Massachusetts, and the differences in their clientele and teaching styles. Elaine Ewing and Sean Gallagher discuss the history and future of Pilates. They talk about the early teachers who learned from Joseph Pilates, such as Karola Trayer, and how they expanded the practice. They also discuss the commercialization of Pilates and the importance of staying true to the original work.    Elaine and Sean share their hopes for the future of Pilates and the importance of learning from primary sources. They also mention upcoming events, such as Pilates at the Pillow and their Pilates Historic Webinars. Key Points Preserving the historical essence of Pilates Gaining insight into the origins of Pilates Utilizing original Pilates equipment, characterized by its unique foam density and design, provides a more authentic and effective Pilates experience. Notable original Pilates studios include the 8th Avenue studio in New York and Joe's studio in Massachusetts. The commercialization of Pilates has resulted in alterations to the practice. Studying primary sources, such as archives and original equipment, is essential to understanding Pilates' roots genuinely. Remember to check out my website thepilatesprofessional.com.au for workshops and my six-month reformer teacher training mentor program. I believe that reformer training is a crucial missing link in our industry, and I'm here to provide comprehensive and recognized training for aspiring reformer instructors.   Thank you for joining me in The Pilates Lounge. I'm Katie Crane, your Pilates professional, and I'll see you in the next episode!   Connect with Elaine and Sean. Elaine: Instagram: @elaine_ewing Sean: IG - seangallagher3262, the.pilates.source, the.new.york.pilates.studio, pilatesmuseum FB - SeanP.GallagherPT, The Pilates Source®, The Pilates Museum Take advantage of your gift! Claim it now here: https://www.thepilatesprofessional.com.au/free-gift   Subscribe to our biweekly Pilates Muse newsletter for exclusive updates. https://www.thepilatesprofessional.com.au/the-pilates-muse-publication

Join Brad and Lesley as they revisit Kel Cal's life-changing takeaways and her powerful 2-part manifestation process, along with her thought-provoking insights on self-love, identity shifts, and overcoming limiting beliefs. Kel Cal, author of How I Cured My Resting Bitch Face: Your Guide to Stop Settling, Fall in Love with Yourself, and Create a Life You're Obsessed With and host of the Dear Dumb Bitch podcast, offers practical advice on integrating new habits into your daily life. Lesley also answers an audience question on the best breathing techniques during Pilates, filling this episode with transformative advice and actionable tips.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Lesley answers how to properly breathe during Pilates exercises.Why you need to shift your identity and embody what you learned. Becoming the best version of yourself and who you desire to be.Creating opportunities today that make you feel stable and secure. The importance of allowing music to manifest your future dream self.Episode References/Links:OPC Summer ToureLevate Mentorship ProgramCambodia February 2025 RetreatOPC $40 for 40 DaysHow to Breath in Pilates?Kel Cal's WebsiteKel Cal's InstagramKel Cal's TIkTokHow I Cured My Resting Bitch Face BookDear Dumb Bitch Podcast  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  She said when we make that decision we get closer to a change, we get closer to the being what we're seeing for ourselves, we start being it when we start making that change today.Lesley Logan 0:11  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 0:53  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the life-altering convo I had with Kel Cal in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this down, go back to listen that one and then come back and join us or you can listen to this one and then listen to that one. It's really great. Kel's awesome. She's a fabulous, fun woman and very interesting. Brad Crowell 1:14  Pretty determined.Lesley Logan 1:15  Very much so and I wish we had a reason to go to Bali right now so we can all go hang out and then we can talk her into coming to Cambodia. All right, before we get into the interview, we have a couple things first, Today is June 20th and it's almost Summer Solstice, which is tomorrow. And so if you're listening to this on Summer Solstice, hello, happy Summer Solstice Day. What does that mean? It is the longest day. Summer Solstice is observed on either June 20th, 21st or 22nd. But this year it falls on June 21st. The timing shifts because it depends on when the sun reaches its northernmost point from the celestial equator. Anyways, it's the start of summer I'm gonna be telling you, I've been telling you when it's summer already, so I'm clearly wrong. As a result, the days get shorter as summer progresses, first gradually but then at increasingly larger daily intervals as the September equinox approaches and ushers in the beginning of fall. Because the Sun travels across the sky in its most elongated path during the summer solstice, that day has the most daylight hours. So enjoy the longest day of the year, you guys and also, apparently, official day of summer. And apparently it's now only summer. You should tell that to the Vegas Sun.Brad Crowell 2:20  Yeah, right. I agree. But what do we got coming up?Lesley Logan 2:23  So we are, we are going into our OPC Summer Tour on August 4th and tickets are already selling very fast. Some locations are on top of their game, you guys. Brad Crowell 2:35  Yeah, watch out. Lesley Logan 2:36  We have some groupies who are hitting several locations. I love you ladies and I can't wait to party with you in multiple places. Like it's just like they may as well get in their vans and follow us around like how fun we can be like a group. Not a cult, a group. So yeah, we're a band. Opc.me/tour is where you get your tickets, 13 cities, Las Vegas, Salt Lake City, Denver, Lincoln, Nebraska, Minneapolis, Minnesota, Milwaukee, Chicago, Cleveland, Indy.Brad Crowell 3:14  I think we're doing Dayton in there.Speaker 1 3:16  Dayton? Oh, yeah. There's a 13th that I forget, Dayton, Indy, Lawrence, Kansas. St. Louis and Lawrence, Kansas? Brad Crowell 3:26  No.Lesley Logan 3:26  Kansas City.Brad Crowell 3:27  Before Kansas City, we go to St. Louis. We're not in Lawrence this year we're in Kansas City and then we go to Colorado Springs. Lesley Logan 3:35  And then we're done.Brad Crowell 3:35  That's right. Lesley Logan 3:36  And it's in like two weeks of days. So it's like Brad Crowell 3:39  15 or 16 days. Yeah, we're gonna be hit and clip, pretty quick clip.Lesley Logan 3:43  Some of these places only two or three hours apart from each other. Brad Crowell 3:46  Yeah, once we get to the true like, like, Midwest Midwest. We're gonna be couple of hours (inaudible).Lesley Logan 3:52  You know what, I heard people say, oh, but sometimes we lake it. Well, guess what? I'm not coming to Minneapolis, Minnesota or Milwaukee anytime soon. So you can go lake it the weekend before or the weekend after. Brad Crowell 4:04  That's right.Lesley Logan 4:04  You now know the dates in advance. Brad Crowell 4:06  Pilates at that weekend. Lake it another weekend. Lesley Logan 4:09  Yeah. And also, we might not even be there on a weekend. I'm not even sure what days were there. But it's on the sheet, opc.me/tour. So go check it out. Also, at the time that this is coming out, it is possible that eLevate applications are possibly happening. It's also possible that they're almost happening. But you should, you should check it out. Because we only open up these registrations once a year. We have hundreds of people who are interested (inaudible).Brad Crowell 4:32  I think, I think it's important to stress that there are hundreds of people on the waitlist. Lesley Logan 4:36  Yeah, I think the last time I checked it was like over 500.Brad Crowell 4:38  Yeah and so what this means and there are only 12 spots, okay, so yeah, in a group, so if you, if it's something that you've been thinking about doing, this is kicking off January of 2025. You know, right now what would happen is you'd be looking at a deposit, but then the money for the balance payment will be before the program kicks off at the end of the year or very early the beginning of next year. Lesley Logan 5:03  So unless you have time to pay and plan if you need to, save up, plan ahead with the schedule. So you can, you know, you can get things sorted.Brad Crowell 5:11  If you have no idea what eLevate is, and you're wondering what the heck we're talking about. Lesley Logan 5:13  Oh, they're probably wondering, it's my mentorship program.Brad Crowell 5:16  It's a nine-month program. Lesley Logan 5:18  Yeah and if you saw the OPC summer camp, we had a lot of eLevate grads. Brad Crowell 5:22  We sure did. Lesley Logan 5:23  In fact, almost all of them. Brad Crowell 5:24  Yeah, I think they were all. It was super, super fun. So during those nine months, you're going to do five weekend workshops, all virtual, all on Zoom, well, you will get to go through each of the different pieces of equipment, and Lesley's passing on the information she learned from her teacher, Jay Grimes. And, yeah, it's really an opportunity for her to sow into you and help you develop the confidence to teach anybody that comes through the door without having to worry about it, without having to spend a gazillion hours in prep time, without having to do class planning, without having to feel like you have to talk the entire time of the class. I mean, it's just dramatically changed the people who have gone through this program and it's a pretty small club. There's only been four rounds so far. Right? So you, you're going to be part of an amazing crew of incredible women. We're open to there being some men but there haven't been any men so far. So it's an amazing group (inaudible).Lesley Logan 6:17  Might be, might be in, might be in the next one I already have someone who's interested. So here we (inaudble).Brad Crowell 6:20  Love it. Amazing. So, go to lesleylogan.co/elevate. Lesleylogan.co/elevate.Lesley Logan 6:27  Yep and then our Cambodia February 2025 Retreat is filling up quickly. Brad Crowell 6:33  Sure is. Lesley Logan 6:33  So it's really exciting. February is an interesting time of year because it is after the rainy season has had not been happening for quite some time. And so the sunrises look different. The sunsets look different. The landscape looks different. The humidity levels are way different. And so if you go to Brad Crowell 6:52  crowsnestretreats.com Lesley Logan 6:55  crowsnestretreats, plural? Brad Crowell 6:56  Yeah. Lesley Logan 6:57  crowsnestretreats.com.Brad Crowell 6:59  That's right. Yeah. Anyway, February we Lesley Logan 7:02  There's some great women already signed up.Brad Crowell 7:04  Yeah, we got a really fun group. starting to come together here. I'm really, I'm really excited about that. If you were on the waitlist and you feel like you missed out, just reach out to me. We still would love to have you join us. Also, we would love for you to join us at OPC. OPC is onlinepilatesclasses.com. We have a, basically, a way you can try it out for 40 days for only 40 bucks.Lesley Logan 7:29  I know. At an OPC summer camp we found out that you can even buy a lemon for $1. But you can do Pilates or OPC for $1 a day.Brad Crowell 7:36  I did not know that. Lesley Logan 7:37  Yeah, they said that. They said they went to the store and there was not a single lemon that was under $1. And I was like, wow.Brad Crowell 7:44  So cheaper than 40 lemons, y'all. Lesley Logan 7:46  Yeah, yeah. And then you don't have to worry about them going bad. So, opc.me/40 is how you get that trial offer. Okay, we're about to get into the interview with Kel Cal. But first we have a question from one of our listeners. Brad Crowell 7:58  We sure do. Lily Bay from YouTube asked, "How do you know how to breathe in Pilates exercises?"Lesley Logan 8:05  Well, Lily Bay, the good news is we actually have a whole video where I explain the breath. So I'm not gonna go into as deep detail because we'll just link to that video below because it's actually many, many minutes long. But I want to give you permission that my teacher taught me he's like most, there's very few exercises where Joseph Pilates had very specific breathing. And most of the exercises, it was just important that you did breathe. And so don't hold your breath. Unless the exercise says to hold your breath at a certain time, like you will on the exercise called breathing you will hold your breath at specific times. But, all the other ones breathe in and out through your nose, take up space laterally with your ribs breathe into the lowest ribs in the back. And what that does is it allows your abdominals to stay connected and contracted. While you're still getting full deep breaths. You're still moving your diaphragm, but you're not letting your abs disengage and engage so that you can go through all these exercises. That's how you're going to breathe in all the Pilates exercises. But if you want to know more than that, go to our video on How to Breathe in Pilates on my YouTube channel.Brad Crowell 9:10  Yeah. Awesome. Great question. Thanks so much for asking. If you are interested in leaving us a question. You can DM us on the gram or you can text us at 310-905-5534. Anyway, reach out if you have questions. We'd love to answer your question on the pod and we'll be right back. Okay, now let's talk about Kel Cal. Kel Cal, a survivor of a toxic and unhappy marriage. That on paper looks really amazing. Cal deeply understands the importance of self-love. As the host of the Dear Dumb Bitch podcast she shares her journey of healing and self-discovery. Kel is also a life empowerment mentor, speaker and author of the book How I Cured My Resting Bitch Face: Your Guide to Stop Settling. And check it out, Lesley's holding it up for those who watch on YouTube. Get it closer here. Oh there it is. Go higher. Yeah. So oh, sorry, the title is actually much longer How I Cured My Resting Bitch Face: Your Guide to Stop Settling, Fall in Love with Yourself, & Create a Life You're Obsessed With. Her mission is to help people heal from their past, believe in their worthiness and become the best future version of themselves. I love that. This is a really intriguing conversation I, when I was walking in, when you're interviewing her, I walked in the only part of this that I walked in on was the, "And I trusted my intuition and then I moved to Bali." And I was like, oh my God, what is this interview going to be about? Right? And I was like, is this gonna be the wooest of the woo thing that I've ever heard? That wasn't what the interview was, like, at all. But that was like a hilarious just snippet for me to walk into. So, anyway.Lesley Logan 10:52  I know because well, that's because we met this one person. And we're like, oh, you live over in Boulder, like, what made you move there? My intuition and it's and then they just put a period on it and didn't finish the conversation. It's like, okay, so I don't really know how to content like (inaudible) are you here right now? (Inaudible) Are you like in this, but we're having a conversation. You know, so her sole purpose is her soul's purpose.Brad Crowell 11:17  That I thought was super cool. Lesley Logan 11:18  Yeah, I thought that was great. That's a great, that's great alliteration or whatever it is. And I also love that she talked about how we shift our identity, we take what we learn, and we actually embody it and embodiment is, it's actually taking these lessons and making them truly part of your being. And so like, which can sound a little bit like the definition was just used in a sentence. But here's the deal. Like, when you take something you've learned, and you integrate it into your life, it is, it is something you can take action on. And you're kind of almost using in your life, to make decisions to do different things. And so it's kind of like the intro to the show, it is like action brings clarity, it's the antidote to fear. Or, like I've said in the podcast before information without integration is constipation. When you take a lesson and you go through something, you learn it, you embody it, you are no longer like, constipated your move, it's moving through. It's actionable. I like that. So we also talked a lot about limiting beliefs and self-doubt, which I thought was really cool. I don't think I've had a lot of people share self-doubt on the pod in a while. So I thought it was really cool for someone to share their self-doubt. What do you love? Brad Crowell 12:28  Yeah. So she was talking about two times she had this major realization, the first time was in the toxic relationship, which she got away from. And then she moved. And she realized, after moving that, she was still like, super unhappy. And she said, wow, the common denominator here is me. So that means I have to go, you know, work on me, right? And then she started asking the question, what does that even mean? And she was like, well, maybe I'll do it later. And then she had this realization that like, actually later is, is kind of not real. First off, it's not easy to change the way that you see yourself, the expectations you have for yourself, or the habits that you do, it's not an easy thing to transition away from what we're used to. Like, it's, that's your worldview. It's literally how you view yourself. That's tough. She said, we have to become the version of ourselves now because the future doesn't even exist, right? Tomorrow doesn't exist. Because when it arrives, it's called today. You know, which is kind of, you know, she pointed those things out, it's pretty funny when you think of it in, in that context. But ultimately, what the point of this is, is we need to start making decisions and changes now. You got to do it now, right now in this moment because when we tell ourselves that we're going to do it in the future, or someday or down the road, that's not real. We can begin to become the version of ourselves, who we desire to be, today, right now. And she did give some actual practical advice on that and we're going to cover that in our Be It Action Items. But she said when we make that decision, we get closer to the change, we get closer to the being, what we're seeing for ourselves we start being it when we start making that change today. So I thought that was pretty cool.Lesley Logan 14:15  Yeah, she's really cool. I was on her podcast, Dear Dumb Bitch, which I actually thought was such a fun, such a fun name because sexually with lots of lovingkindness towards your, like, yourself. And she asked some really great questions you guys and she and I both read the same like morning books that like where you can journal on. So I highly recommend if you really like her, check out the episode I was on with her. And you can get to know more about her and myself and like what we're, what we're doing. It's really great.Brad Crowell 14:44  All right, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Kel Cal? She said, "We don't manifest what we want. We manifest what we are." I don't think I've ever heard this before. And I thought it was, was pretty cool. So, you know, I've heard a lot of people talk about manifestation. And like I have said numerous times on this podcast, I'm a one-woo guy.Lesley Logan 15:12  I feel like people are actually manifesting things all the time, even when they're not being intentional about based on what you just said. Because if you're a negative person, then you are manifesting negative shit. Like all the time, it's just happening.Brad Crowell 15:24  Yeah. And actually, you're bringing that negativity into your world, like, so you're manifesting who you are. You're a negative person, in that case, right. But she said she actually broke it down. She said, It's a two-part process. So the first part is to identify the emotions that you think you will feel once you have achieved or reached the things on your vision board. And I thought this was super cool. She specifically said, "Imagine you have a six-figure bank account. Why do we all want that? What is it about having a six-figure bank account that makes it the thing? It's security, it's an emotional stability, feeling of confidence of knowing that like, 'Oh, if everything hits the fan, I still have this bank account that can pay my bills for X amount of time.'" And she said, "Identify the emotions that you think you will feel once you have the things that are on your vision board and then create opportunities to begin to feel those emotions right now." So you want that six-figure back account, how will that make you feel? Start creating opportunities to feel what it's like to have stability and security in your life today. And I thought that was, that was actually pretty profound. Actually. I thought that was amazing. Lesley Logan 16:34  Yeah, I really liked I thought that was very tangible. Yes. The second part of the process is to pick a song and make it your Be It theme.Brad Crowell 16:43  Love this.Lesley Logan 16:44  Your Be It theme song.Brad Crowell 16:45  Yes and music is powerful. Lesley Logan 16:46  Yeah, because it's energy and energy carries a frequency, which also allows us to calibrate. So pick a song that really embodies the energy of how you want to feel in the future, play that song every single morning, it's important to do it in the morning, because it's easy to just have the day go on and on and you forget to actually do it. Feel the emotions that the song is allowing you to connect with. And that way you can have that energetic connection because that's how you are able to become a match for what it is that you desire. So you put your Be It theme song on in the morning, you allow that energy to take up your space and then you go on your day with that Be It energy and you'll, from the start of the day, you guys, this is amazing. You can make it your alarm clock music if you are not good at remembering how to play a song. But I bet you, you could tell your phone's name to play x song at x time in the morning every day. I'm sure it would. Brad Crowell 17:37  That's not a bad idea. I haven't thought about that.Lesley Logan 17:40  You try it, you guys, and you tell me how it goes. I mean, like we probably tell Google, "Hey Google, play blank song at this time in the morning, every day."Brad Crowell 17:51  Yeah, I mean, I think there's a Lesley Logan 17:53  I'm gonna play my Be It theme song when I am in the cold plunge. Brad Crowell 17:58  I think that's a great idea. Lesley Logan 18:00  Now I gotta figure out what my month, my theme song for this season is.Brad Crowell 18:04  That's really fun. I think that's a great idea. Lesley Logan 18:06  I love that.Brad Crowell 18:06  Because it's roughly three minutes, you know, the song, I mean, usually, and. Lesley Logan 18:11  By the time I hit the timer, then I get to the song, well, hopefully I'll get my phone to play the song at that time, and then I can just yell at my phone to play the song. And then I'll be in the water. And I'll be like, feeling though it goes through the water into me, this is amazing.Brad Crowell 18:25  Oh, geez. Here we go. It's gonna be good. Awesome. I love that. Yeah, I mean, I know. I know what it's like to be connected to music, obviously. And I know how much I enjoy when a song comes on that gets me super fired up. And yeah, I love this idea because it really does help anchor your day, set your mood, set your, you know, point you down the path of being excited and positive and hopeful and energetic and ready to go. So what an easy fun tip.Lesley Logan 19:00  Fun tip. You guys, tell Kel Cal what your takeaways were. Tell the Be It Pod. Get her book, How I Cured My Resting Bitch Face: Your Guide to Stop Settling, Fall in Love with Yourself, & Create a Life You're Obsessed With. Boom, you can get this on Amazon wherever books are sold. And you guys, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 19:22  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 19:22  Thank you so much for joining us today. We are so grateful for you. We hope this was really helpful in understanding manifestation and more about being until you see it. So make sure you share this with a friend and please leave us a review. If you haven't done that yet. Brad Crowell 19:35  Yeah, do it, do it. Lesley Logan 19:35  Do it. The last time I checked, we're almost at a hundred. You could be the 100th person. I know (inaudible) you don't win anything but you get to have been part of the growth of this podcast and that, that's winning my love, that's winning, you're putting that energy out into the world. So thank you so much and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 19:50  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 19:52  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Lesley and Brad reflect on key insights from Rodman Schley, an entrepreneur, investor, and public speaker, about living a purpose-driven life. They explore startling statistics about how few people truly know and live their purpose. Emphasizing the importance of focusing on purpose over profit, they share strategies for overcoming regret and societal pressures. Listeners will also learn about managing overwhelm and prioritizing self-care to stay aligned with their goals.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The importance of identifying and focusing on purpose over profit.Strategies to handle feelings of overwhelm by redefining obligations.How to clearly communicate your purpose clearly to others.Creating your own "sacred checkboxes" to find your purpose. Discover the importance of self-care and setting personal priorities.Episode References/Links:Cambodia Feb 2025 - https://crowsnestretreats.com/OPC Summer ToureLevate Mentorship ProgramBarrels Flashcards Deck WaitlistOPC 40 Days for $40Rodman Schley WebsiteRodman Schley InstagramThe Outlier Mindset Book by Rodman SchleyBree Gordon Episode 75Krista St. Germain Episode 235Kim Hamer Episode 244Kim Hamer 100 Acts of LoveDazzle Dry Nail Kit  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! 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We are able to make conscious decisions and we can change these paths if we want to, for ourselves, if we make a decision about it. Lesley Logan 0:25  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 1:07  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the intentional convo I had with Rodman Schley in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, go back and listen to that interview and then come back and listen to this interview or listen to this one and listen to that one or binge out on the entire week at one time. Who does that? I want to know. Today is June 13th 2024. And it's Random Acts of Light Day. About this day, as part of the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society's ‘Light The Night Walks' fundraising campaign, Random Acts of Light Day is celebrated every year on June 13th. This day encourages us to do a random act of kindness to bring light into the life of someone suffering from cancer. People observe the day by volunteering at hospitals, reading up on treatments and cures for blood cancer patients, or joining the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society's 'Light The Night Walks' to raise funds and increase awareness about leukemia and lymphoma. Random Acts of Light Day aims to make the world a kinder place for cancer patients and their families. So really, if you don't want to do any of this logistical stuff, you could just do something randomly nice for someone with cancer in your life. I'm sure you know someone, we just had a friend, listener and member of our group whose husband passed away from cancer recently, and he'd been fighting for many years. And then Heather Ingram, who is one of our eLevate grads, Agency members, she actually taught a mat class for people after breast cancer, which I'm so excited that is now on the OPC site. Yeah, so getting people who have gone through it something for them, so. Brad Crowell 2:38  Well, I just wanted to say something about all this, I can't remember the name of the guest that we had, who gave this advice as an action item, but as a Be It Action Item. But it has stayed with me since the interview. And it was when somebody is in need, you don't want to just say, "Hey, let me know if I can help you," or "Let me know how I can help." Because 99% of the time, they're not going to actually know what they need at the moment. And instead, if you know someone who needs help or suffering or some kind of thing like this, you can actually volunteer something specific that you know, you can do really well. And do it well for them. Right? So instead of it being like this open-ended let me know when, you know, if you need anything, you know, you could say, "Hey, let me know when I can come over and wash your car." Something specific, you know, something that's like tangible, and like, oh my god, that would be fucking awesome. I would really, really appreciate that. So I just want to throw that back out there because it's really impacted me in how I respond to people who actually are going through something and I wanted to remind all of you as well. Lesley Logan 3:50  Yeah. We had two guests within the same summer on grief. Brad Crowell 3:57  I do think it was the grief one, you're right. Lesley Logan 3:58  And I can't decide if it was the wife does the books that had the book about 100 acts of kindness. Or if it was the coach on griefBrad Crowell 4:09  Bree Gordon or Kim Hamer. Lesley Logan 4:11  Yeah. Both are great guys. Both worth listening to. Bree has a quiz that will tell you which episodes to listen to based on like where you are in your grief. Anyways, there was a coach about a month before Kim Hamer. But Kim Hamer, I think was one who was like, very specific. Brad Crowell 4:28  She's a consultant in grief management. Lesley Logan 4:29  Yes, yes. For corporations. Yeah. So she wrote the book on the 100 Acts of Kindness and 100 Acts of Love something like that. And it was like different things you can do to be like for ideas on what to suggest and what to do for you can do for people it's really cool. She had the neighbor who like detailed her car and put oil in it, gassed it up, things like that. So yeah, today go do something active and random and nice for someone in need. There you go. This is your, this is your reminder. Coming up, we have Cambodia Retreat February 2025. October as you know, if you've been listening for a while is sold, sold out, so sold out. So February is our next opportunity. If you're like when's the next one? You know what? Don't know yet, and also stop postponing your joy. Stop postponing having a retreat. Some of you have been saying I'm gonna go to the next one for years now. This is your sign. Sign up for the February 2025 one. And then summer tour just launched and tickets are going like crazy. We have 13 cities. It is going to be amazing. We are going to kick it off in Las VegasBrad Crowell 5:28  I just wanted to throw out the URL crowsnestretreats.com Lesley Logan 5:31  Oh, for the retreat. crowsnestretreats.com for the retreat and then the Summer Tour is opc.me/tour. You can check out, get your tickets, get your tickets for a friend, invite a friend, your friends do not need to have done Pilates to come to these things. There are really, there's usually a math class. There's a lot of fun things going on. So definitely do that. And then my mentorship program is, the applications are opening soon. It is possible we'll have opened them up, I don't think so at this point. I think it'll be opening towards the end of June and early July. We're rolling, we only can take 12 people in a group. We, around four is wrapping up, actually, this weekend when this episode comes out will be their fourth weekend. That's crazy. So crazy. I'm so excited for them. They're just amazing women. I love them so much. And then as you go to lesleylogan.co/elevate to get on the waitlist because there's a waitlist. Get the application invite. If you're not on the waitlist, you don't. It's probably why you don't, if you're like, I follow you on Instagram, I never knew. I don't know how about what there's a lot of other things going on. And we only can take 12 people, so there you go. Barrels flashcards, Brad is insisting that you get an opportunity.Brad Crowell 6:39  This is your last chance to get on the waitlist, 100% the last chance. The presale is gonna open up in just a couple of days. Lesley Logan 6:46  Yeah, this is the last chance. It's the last time we're talking about it. You don't hear about it again until they're printing.Brad Crowell 6:50  Yeah, or not until a year from now when we're doing the next step.Lesley Logan 6:54  Yeah, so at any rate, you'll want to get on the waitlist for that. Brad Crowell 6:57  opc.me/flashcardwaitlist, opc.me/flashcardwaitlist Lesley Logan 7:03  And finally, many of you have been like, oh, how do I actually sign up for OPC I really want to actually have consistency in my practice. I want to be someone who takes care of myself all the time. I want to be someone who is priority number one in my life. And if you are an OPC member, you learn how to do that because you have tons of people around you reminding you to do that. So opc.me/40 four zero, opc.me/40 gets you 40 days for $40. So that's $1 a day of Pilates. Brad Crowell 7:32  $1 a day. Lesley Logan 7:33  Come on now. Come on now. Some places charge $400 a month, we're, you know, so here you go. Here's your opportunity to get the Pilates you can afford. It's very accessible, really awesome teachers, really awesome community. It's an awesome vibes all the way. Before we get into Rodman, we have an audience question.Brad Crowell 7:50  We sure did. This is from YouTube, stella633 asked, "Hey, I love your channel and all the knowledge you share. I'm trying to buy a spine corrector. But there are so many different spine correctors on the Balanced Body website. Could you do a video comparing the pros and cons of the different spine correctors? Oh, and can you advise what East Coast West Coast barrels mean?Lesley Logan 8:10  I know. So we'll do Brad Crowell 8:13  That's a great question, stella. Lesley Logan 8:14  We'll do a YouTube video on this so you can have pictures I feel like we almost need to do a long-form team versus a live on this because I don't have the other barrels. So I would want our team to put pictures of the other barrels on there. But let me just like answer what I can East Coast versus West Coast. So there's this world of Pilates that was like was we called East Coast and West Coast East Coast being classical, West Coast bidding contemporary. Brad Crowell 8:37  Really? Lesley Logan 8:37  Yes. Brad Crowell 8:38  I didn't know about that.Lesley Logan 8:39  Yeah. Yeah. So whenever you see East Coast or Clara, it means classical. And everything else is gonna be a contemporary and I can't tell you why there's different sizes in contemporary I don't know that world very much, but what you'd want to get is a Contrology one. Contrology Spine Corrector is a spine corrector to get and you'll find that on Balance Body's Contrology website so it won't, probably won't even be under all the barrels that Balanced Body is showing because it'll be on the Contrology website. It is amazing. It is the closest to Joseph Pilates' spine corrector that there is and if you were listening to last week's episode, I talked about how important the spine corrector is because it really does help you teach you the back bend that you need. Brad has been using the ladder barrel.Brad Crowell 9:22   I sure have.Lesley Logan 9:22  Like, guess what? That hump on the ladder barrel is the exact same as the spine corrector. Brad Crowell 9:27  Nice. Okay. Lesley Logan 9:27  Yeah. So that you can actually work and practice your back bends and build extension into your thoracic spine. Brad Crowell 9:33  You know what I've actually been doing? Lesley Logan 9:34  He's been hanging on it. Brad Crowell 9:36  No, yeah, well, I've just been laying over it and holding on and like, it's, you know, if you've ever done yoga, y'all, and you ever get a backbend headache, there's like this weird pressure that builds and like, it like, the blood flow is like really messing with your brain. And I literally just hold on until I'm through the chaos which takes it could take like the other day I did it and literally I got weak trying to hold because it was such intense pressure. But like, I feel like I'm supposed to be able to do that. And I shouldn't have to have that insane pressure the whole every time. So I'm going to keep doing it every day. Until that happens less.Lesley Logan 10:18  Yeah, I think that's fine.Brad Crowell 10:20  That's what I'm doing. Lesley Logan 10:22  Yeah, so (inaudible) so the long, the long and short of it without the visuals is the Contrology is the one you want buy, just saying. And our Barrels Flashcard Deck is actually going to give you all the exercises you can do on it, and you'll see me and my hot pink one. If you want a discount link, you can use our special link to Contrology Spine Corrector. And the difference between East Coast and West Coast is just the schools of thought. Don't you love how nerdy it is as if anyone who's not trained could even attempt to buy their own thing. And then people who are trained are like, what's East Coast or West Coast? Yep. Welcome to another inner circle.Brad Crowell 11:04  Definitely, we're so inclusive here. Well, hey, great question, stella. Thank you for asking that. Thanks for posting that. If you would like to ask us a question. Stick around to the end of this episode, we actually are gonna mention our phone number. You can just text us and ask that question or we are on Instagram you can send us a DM or obviously we're also on YouTube. So the show is itself is on YouTube. You can ask any questions there as well. Stick around. All right, now let's talk about Rodman Schley. Rodman Schley is a dynamic entrepreneur dedicated to helping individuals break free from unfulfilling work and discover their true purpose. He's passionate about guiding others towards building a life by their own design. As the author of The Outlier Mindset, which comes out on June 4, Rodman shares his insights on achieving a fulfilling and successful life through purpose-driven living.Lesley Logan 11:54  Oh his, his book comes out.Brad Crowell 11:56  Yeah June 4.Lesley Logan 11:57  That's so cool. So it's out. Brad Crowell 11:59  Oh, it's out. Lesley Logan 12:00  Yeah. Brad Crowell 12:00  It's already out by the time you're hearing this.Lesley Logan 12:01  Oh, that's amazing. Go Rodman. Brad Crowell 12:03  Yeah, that just dropped on June 4. Lesley Logan 12:04  That's so funny. His Instagram handle's Go Rodman and I just said go Rodman. I now understand why he does that.Brad Crowell 12:12  Well, listen, I think this is like a humble bio here that we have of Rodman.Lesley Logan 12:15  That we should like (inaudible) it up. Brad Crowell 12:17  Yeah. So Rodman actually has, at one point, owned, like, I don't know, a dozen companies at exactly the same time, which is chaos and insane. And I can't even imagine that. He owned everything from like a chain of pizza stores, to like tons of real estate opportunities. And he actually was the host and star of a television show for multiple years running, and it involved his whole family and what they were doing, which I thought was so cool, was they were talking about living sustainably. Right. So it was a show about being conscious about building a home in a way that is sustainable and beneficial. And I just thought that was so cool. So they actually rebuilt their house. It was, they got an old house, and they rebuilt it from the inside out on the show live over multiple seasons. And you can still go watch that show. now. I think he just got an offer from Netflix or something to like, re-air it. I can't remember if it's Netflix or (inaudible) yeah, it's just fucking insane. It's so cool. Anyway, you'll never know. He's just like the chillest guy, so. Lesley Logan 13:24  Yeah. So, one of the things that we talked about is he believes that the tragedy that only 5% of people are actually living a life based on their purpose. Just 5%. And he's, only 10% know what it is. And soBrad Crowell 13:37  Meaning they don't, they know their purpose. Lesley Logan 13:39  Yeah, they know their purpose.Brad Crowell 13:40  Ninety percent of people don't know their purpose. Lesley Logan 13:41  Yeah, he's trying to help people figure out their purpose, because he's trying to solve regret, like people get to the end of their life, or they get halfway through their life. And they're like, they have regrets because they've spent most of their life not in their purpose. And so he's trying to solve for that, which I think is really generous and kind and hard to do, because so many people postpone things till tomorrow, because they have other pressing things today. And so he says, time flies by us, we get caught up in this garbage that's not really relevant to who we are, or in the life that we want to be living. And he actually was like, just stop focusing on the profit and start focusing on the purpose. And this is something that we try to focus on our businesses, it gets really easy to focus on, like, are we making enough money, we're making the money we want to make and when we actually remember to focus on impact, the impact you want to have, that helps us stay in alignment with our purpose because then the money will follow right? Brad Crowell 13:41  The money will flow. Lesley Logan 13:41  And he said, you want to be able to say I have no regrets. I have everything that I wanted to do, failed but learned and pivoted. And I think that that's also like, I love that he brought up failure because like sometimes it's easy to think if I'm in my purpose, then I must be perfect. And everything is gonna be right and it's like actually going to live in your purpose and there's going to be a lot of lessons along the way in your purpose. And that's really cool too. So I just, I enjoyed him so much. I'm so glad he's got a book coming out because he, his podcast, you guys, is so great. He's got like, he's like, get your mind right, get your mind right. Brad Crowell 15:12  Yeah, mind body money. And there's one, there's a fourth pillar I can't remember. Well, I'll tell you why I thought it was really cool when he was talking about feeling overwhelmed. Because it was a, it was kind of a unique perspective on being overwhelmed. I mean, we've all been there, we all understand what it is to be like, oh, my god, I have so much, I don't even know where to start. It's debilitating, right, you just do nothing. For me, what I used to do, when I got overwhelmed, was stop and just play video games and just do nothing literally sit around and pretend that it's all going to be okay. He said, the thing about overwhelm, that I thought was a unique perspective is obligation. And effectively, it's a whole lot of obligations all pulled into one, they're all piling on top of each other, and they're getting in their own way. And it's the worst feeling. And he said, it's just struggle, because effectively you're doing things that you feel obliged to do, committed to do. It's a thing, you just have to do it, right? And ultimately, to live a life of freedom. He wants to help you shift that so that you're doing things because you want to, not because you're stuck doing with them, or you're over-committed a thousand times over and you're doing the PTA meeting and the art committee and going out and helping out do the soccer field and line in the soccer field and all this stuff, which sure there's a there's a bigger purpose for it all. But ultimately, it leaves you last on the list. Right? And you never you never actually have time to take care of yourself. It's just frustrating. Right? So he said, he said the hard part is we have this idea of what we are, quote-unquote, supposed to be doing because that's what society tells us to do. And he said, there comes a point in your life where you need to just pull the brake on that train. Because we're adults, we're adults. Why are we doing things because other people are telling us that that's what we should be doing? Right? We are able to make conscious decisions, and we can change these paths if we want to for ourselves, if we make a decision about it. Right? And I know it's harder. It's, it's easier said than done. But I just thought it was refreshing to hear that, be reminded of that. Right. You know, maybe I'm still doing something today because, you know, it's what my parents expected of me when I was a teenager. But now I'm still doing it today. Why? You know, do I agree with it? Is it actually causing conflict in my life? Is it creating an obligation that I'm now you know, adhering to? Or it's one more thing I have to do. Maybe, maybe it's time for a change. Lesley Logan 18:00  Yeah. Yeah. I love that. I think that's good. I think it's good to evaluate, you know, it's too easy for us just like, keep going with it. And, you know, we have a coach who says makes you a shithead. Brad Crowell 18:12  It makes you a shithead. I love it. All right. When we come back, we're going to cover those Be It Action Items from Rodman. Stick around. Brad Crowell 18:22  Okay, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted action items, can we take away from your convo with Rodman Schley? He said, if you want to change, the first thing to do is start with a purpose. Whether you get a guide to do it on your own, or do it on your own, you should establish what is important to you sit down and do that work, right, sit down and identify what is important to you. I think that's, well, that's the place to get started. Right? We may have never actually clarified what is important to us. And so we think we know, but we've never actually conceptualized it in a tangible thought about this is important to me. And so therefore, this is helping me, this is helping me find purpose. Lesley Logan 19:13  But also, you might have clarified it with yourself, but not with the people around you. And then you get resentful, like, why aren't they helping me do the thing that I'm here on this planet to do? And anytime we assume that people understand why, what our purpose is or why we're doing things, it makes it difficult. And it's like, you know, so I even have to remember to like clarify, here's why I want to do this thing. Here's why it's so important that it happens right at this moment, and here's why I'm doing it. Here's what it's gonna do for me, or here's what it's gonna do for us or here's what it's gonna do for others. And when you do, that people go, oh, okay, I see why this has urgency around it, you know, because sometimes we don't and we go, why is this person bothering me? Why is my family wanting me to make dinner? I've got this big project coming up. But if you've never said, here's why this big project is so important to me. I've been wanting to do this at work for a really long time I finally have this opportunity to present it in front of people. And it would, it's, it's really truly like the thing that I've been wanting to do for so, so long. So what I need from you is to not expect me to make dinner this week because I'm working on this thing. Because this is part of my purpose. It's part of my plan. And, and here's why I'm doing it. Brad Crowell 20:20  Yeah, I mean, or even, you know.Lesley Logan 20:22  Spell it out. Brad Crowell 20:22  It could also be use that same logic for your self care, right? Because people would look at you and be like, Why are you getting your nails done? Right? And you're like, this is important to me? Because it makes me feel better. Or maybe it's working out your Pilates routine, or getting your hair cut, or whatever it might be. But what I thought was really cool is Rodman had this idea of the sacred checklists, the checkboxes, sorry, he has four, after sitting down and running this exercise himself, and really trying to figure out, he considered things like, what are my strengths? What are my weaknesses? What do I love? What do I hate? Then take those things and put them in order into what is the most important to you and he came up with four things. One was travel, two was actually can't remember what his four were off the top my head right now. But he said it allowed him to then make decisions based on are they meeting these four checkboxes? If I'm gonna go do this thing does it fit into what is what, what I have now decided is my purpose and allowed decision-making to happen that way? Because for him, especially for him, he was overcommitted. He was overwhelmed, right, obliged to run, he was doing 12 or 13 companies at the same time. He wasn't doing them for any other reason then, he could, right, and they make money. So sure, I guess I should do these things. Right? And he said, when he sat down, figured out what his purpose was, then started making decisions based on if I do this project, is it going to meet these four, the four checkboxes that are helping me decide my purpose, you know, or to find my purpose? Does it fit? Is it a match? Is it aligned? Lesley Logan 22:05  Yeah, I like that. Because we, we filter things for our values. And this is sort of, very similar, but also like, you know, we've, we've heard, we recently did something and we're like, okay, in the future, we won't say yes to these things unless they meet this criteria, because we show up exactly as ourselves, we do not downplay ourselves, we do not go half ass on anything. No. And so if we are going to bring our whole asses to things, then they need to be these requirements. Otherwise, we don't bring our whole ass and we say thank you, here's how else we can participate. And that's it. You know, so, super, and you don't always know these things until you go through them. And you're like, what the fuck? How did I say yes here? So then you just, don't, don't get mad at yourself. Just go, okay, new rule, new bucket. Brad Crowell 22:58  Yeah, yeah. What about you? Lesley Logan 23:00  So he said, go get your mindset and your body right. If you're gonna go on a journey to start changing your life, and you don't have your mindset right, you're going to fail because you're not sitting there with the right perspective on the way.Brad Crowell 23:13  The way you're going into things.Lesley Logan 23:14  The way you're going into things. Brad Crowell 23:15  Yeah. Lesley Logan 23:15  And if you're not physically feeling good, how are you going to be at your best when you are trying to do the things in life that you really want to be doing? And I love this. So this is the Be It Till You See It. If the version of you that you are trying to win purpose, walks every morning, how can you walk in the morning? You don't have to wait till you get there to start walking. You can start walking, if you're like Les, I'm so busy, I don't have any time. You can walk outside your front door and walk back in like you can do it, right? So I want you to really think about that. And I think it's so, so important. So many people just push their bodies to doing things and then they get to where they want to go and their body can't keep up and they will, why is this happening to me now? I finally got what I wanted? Because you didn't take care of yourself on the way there. Just didn't do it. You know, and I, I want to say like, Brad mentioned like your getting your nails done can be like taking care of yourself. So many people put a lot of things in the vanity, privileged, I must earn it bucket. If getting your nails done actually makes you feel good and helps you show up 100% yourself get your fucking nails done. They are not a when we did my scheduling thing, my how to design your ideal schedule to live life when I have, someone said oh, are getting my nails done glitter or gemstones meaning is it something I can do anytime? Or it's gemstone time meaning it's helping me move my business forward. And I said is getting your nails done like make you feel like your whole self and she's like, yeah, like it's a rock. It's actually part of self-care that is a priority in your schedule. And so I'm not saying everyone has to get their nails done to be taking care of themselves. That's not it at all. But they're, make a list of things that you're like, these are the things I want to do for myself care, and let's see how different versions of them could exist in your exact life right now. Maybe you can't afford to get your nails done right now, guess what, you can get, we're not sponsored by them, but Dazzle Dry for 20 bucks as a kit and you can paint your own nails and they look like gel nails without the UV and they dry in 10 minutes. You're frickin welcome. You're welcome. Right? So you don't have to go spend 50 bucks on a manicure if you don't have that kind of funds and you don't have that kind of time. But just being it until you see it is not waiting until it happens. It's turning. It's taking what you think that your version of you is going to be doing and finding ways to do that right now. And you'll get there quicker so I freaking love it. I love all of it and go, Rodman. Brad Crowell 25:44  Go, Rodman. Lesley Logan 25:45  Congrats on your book, man and your podcast and what you're doing. And you guys, if you love gardening, you have to check out his wife's channel as well. So like she's doing some beautiful things. Brad Crowell 25:54  She has a three-acre flower garden. Pretty cool. Pretty cool.Lesley Logan 26:00  I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 26:01  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 26:02  Thank you so much for joining us today. How are you going to use these tips in your life? How are you going to find your purpose? Make sure you tell us at the Be It Pod. Tell Rodman, @goRodman, and send this to a friend who's feeling a little bit down or lost. This is how we can help people. Sometimes we don't have the words to help people. We think of them when we're listening to a podcast. You can choose to send it to them.Brad Crowell 26:20  Send it.Lesley Logan 26:20  You don't have to have the words so you can let the other person who has words be inspired for them. All right, thank you so much. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 26:27  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 26:29  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Returning guest, body image expert Jenny Schatzle, joined host Lesley Logan to discuss the pressure to look like someone else and the unrealistic expectations that fuel negative body image. This conversation explores the impact societal expectations have on women, the messages we send to young girls, and practical tools to shift the conversation about bodies. Jenny offers empowering advice, tools, and encourages listeners to embrace their able bodies and prioritize self-acceptance over comparison.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The societal pressures that promote unrealistic body ideals. The impact and effects of comparing yourself to others.Practical tips for creating lasting habits for daily exercises.Strategies for changing the conversation around body image.How to accept and live more fully in your able body. Techniques for managing negative thoughts and anxiety.Episode References/Links:Jenny Schatzle InstagramJenny Schatzle WebsiteGuest Bio:Meet Jenny Schatzle, a passionate speaker, author, and coach dedicated to empowering women to embrace their bodies, break free from the shackles of diet culture, and transform their inner dialogue. With a focus on fostering self-love and confidence, she has created a movement toward a more fulfilling life beyond the size of your body. For 20 years, Jenny has been guiding women through a transformative journey, helping them rewrite the narrative of their relationship with themselves. Through workshops, talks, and coaching sessions, she inspires individuals to confront their inner critic and challenge the norms that dictate self-worth.   If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Jenny Schatzle 0:00  Unfortunately, a lot of people don't start to love and accept and respect their body until it no longer functions the way they want it to. And I don't think we should wait till that moment. I mean, if you've ever had an injury you know, oh, I'm never going to take, using my hand or using my leg for granted. But then you do and we do as women every time we compare ourselves to somebody else. Oh, I wish I had her butt. Oh, I wish I had her arms. Well, guess what? You can't physically have somebody else's body.  Lesley Logan 0:26  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 1:04  All right, loves. This guests we have today is back. This is her second time. It will not be her last time. I'm absolutely obsessed with what this woman is putting out in the world to support all of us. Every single one of us. Ladies, especially us. But her name is Jenny Schatzle. If you don't know her, you're gonna fall and fall in love with her just like I did. She is a powerhouse. She's incredible. And she is here to help us all break the cycle of how we are talking about bodies, especially how about our bodies, because all of our actions get passed down to the people around us. And we are more than what our bodies look like. And if you're like yeah, yeah, yeah. And you nod your head, and you nod your head, but then you find yourself you know, not putting on the bathing suit or, which we'll talk about in the podcast, or at home the holidays and someone says something about your body and that makes you upset. Like we were not given the tools to address that in a way that is supportive. And in this podcast, Jenny Schatzle is not only going to give you the tools, she's going to share with you how she use it. And I'm just so incredibly grateful for this woman in my life. And I'm excited for her to be back in your ears. If this is the second time you heard about her, great, you're gonna love all the things we talked about again, it's a great reminder. And if this is your first time get ready to fall in love, just feel so, so supported. And I hope that you check out her first episode, we'll put that in the show notes as well. So you can go back and listen to both of those and just be on a Jenny Schatzle binge and I promise you, you will feel so great. And you'll be so aware of the thoughts that you're thinking about your body. Anytime I ever make, like have a thought that's negative to my body, I actually think like if Jenny Schatzle was here, would I say that out loud? No. So then I don't get to say it out loud. So anyways, you guys, here is Jenny Schatzle. Lesley Logan 2:58  All right, Be It babe. I'm freakin stoked because I know we're all about to go to like, (inaudible) the best kind of church we could all go to, which is just listening to Jenny Schatzle remind us all that we're so frickin worthy and we need to change the conversation and break the cycle. Jenny Schatzle, will you tell everyone who you are and why you rock at all of that stuff?Jenny Schatzle 3:19  Yay, well, that's a great introduction right there. Everyone, I'm Jenny Schatzle. I'm so excited to be here. And yeah, I'm on a mission to help women change the conversation around body image. So we can not only show the younger generation how to do it, but we are the ones who model it every day by breaking the cycle and unlearning all the toxic bullshit we learned growing up.Lesley Logan 3:42  Yeah, yeah. (Inaudible) Well, you know, Jenny, I thought for a couple of years that like, it felt a little bit like the rest of the world was kind of getting down with this, like the magazines and things were going down with this. And now they're back to what they were before. And I'm like, but I think it's because their magazines aren't selling which is not because of what their titles are. I get quotes all the time or get asked for quotes all the time. And one of them is like, can you tell me how to get Miley Cyrus's arms in five exercises? And I'm like, no, she is 31 even if you did Pilates like her, which my friend teaches her, four hours a day and had her nutritionist and her chef you still won't have her arms because hormones are real, age is a thing and you don't, you're not Miley Cyrus and why are you asking me this question? And so I get really annoyed because even my team's like, hey, here's some things that will do well with SEO which is like 17 butt exercises at school to tone your buttom, I'm like I don't ever want to tone anyone's butt. I don't want to ever talk about that. But it's unfortunate like it's this thing where like, that's what the machines want people, the experts put out because that's what people are clicking and how do we, how do people like you, people like me get people to hear that when you change the conversation when that's not what they'll click on?Jenny Schatzle 4:56  100% And it's hard not gonna I'm not gonna lie. (Inaudible), they don't work, but they sell. They keep selling. So the quote I will give you to give them is, you know, when somebody asks, can you tell me how to get so and so's arms, you can say, if we all ate the same and worked out the same, we would still look different. And the days of us trying to look like other people, I want to acknowledge that it's up to us disrespecting, and giving up what we do have. So a lot of us have very able healthy bodies. And on a daily basis, we're disrespecting that. And unfortunately, a lot of people don't start to love and accept and respect their body until it no longer functions the way they want it to. And I don't think we should wait till that moment. I mean, if you've ever had an injury, you know, like, oh, I'm never gonna take using my hand or using my leg for granted. But then you do. And we do as women every time we compare ourselves to somebody else. Oh, I wish I had her butt. Oh, I wish I had her arms. Well, guess what, you can't physically have somebody else's body. You weren't born with it. You weren't meant to have it. I believe I'm this person in the middle. But a lot of my message does get construed like it's not black and white, right? Like, people think I'm anti-diet, but I don't think like you can still want to change your body and lose weight, I don't think that's bad. We just need to have the conversation of why. And when we're giving up, you know, a really old saying, which I love so much, it's don't give up 95% of your life to weigh 5% less. I don't know who originally said it. But it's a very meaningful, because for a lot of us weight loss, we think if I just, and I've said this before on your podcast, you know, but if I just lost this last 10 pounds I'd be happy. If my arms were just a little bit toner or if my stomach was flatter. And we know that that isn't really going to make us our happiest person. And a lot of us are waiting to live our best lives when we lose weight. But then we lose weight and it's just never enough. And the body's still never good enough. So my take on it is when you learn to actually accept the body that you have today that's when you start taking the best care of it. Lesley Logan 7:06  Yes. Oh, okay. All that. Yes. And I think it's, it's interesting. We do take things for granted, when they're working well, because we're looking at someone else's lawn. And you know, thinking that I want that it's gonna be greener over there. It's gonna be easy over there. I was talking to someone earlier today who was on their podcast, and she was telling me how she went to a Pilates class and she was having a really hard time because she couldn't do exercise like everyone else. And I said, well, you won't look like everyone else. And I don't know who your teacher was, but I hope that they weren't explaining to you that you're gonna look like everyone else. You also just started so you are a beginner. And why can we not allow ourselves to be beginners at things? Why are we expecting ourselves? I gotta look like that person over there. I'm not good enough. It's like, no, you just started. So like, it's like, it's all these things that we keep comparing ourselves to others, even when we're new. We should be giving us the most grace.Jenny Schatzle 7:56  And I'm gonna add to that we always say in our gym, so I do own a gym. And we do, we don't do Pilates we are, I like to say we are like a one-stop shop. Except for we I shouldn't say it because we don't do Pilates. We don't do Pilates (inaudible). We do cardio, we do strength training. We have what we call like burn days, power days. Anyway, it's a cardio strength. I always say don't compare your day one to somebody, you know, somebody else's day 300. But on top of that, just in the world. It's so crazy that we will sit there and compare ourselves. I always make jokes like Sally Jomo down the street who you think is so thin and so beautiful. But who knows Sally Jomo's drinking a bottle of vodka every night because she's crazy unhappy in her marriage. She hates her body. She's disconnected from her family. Like you have no idea how else, how anybody else is living. And we assume these things based on the way that people look. I say this a lot, too. New listeners. if you haven't listened to me before. I'm brutally honest, I don't hold back. I know a lot of very rich, thin, beautiful women who I wouldn't trade lives with for millions of dollars. They are extremely unhappy, unhappy, and I'm not saying that every rich, thin woman is. I'm just trying to bring up the point that you have no idea what's going on in other people's lives. And just based on somebody's arms or flat stomach, doesn't necessarily mean they're doing it right. Also, genetics plays a huge role in our bodies. You know, there's a there's like a tic tac toe thing. My husband brought it up. It's so funny going around. It was like, you know, these 20-year-old influencers which I'm not talking smack on anyone, but it's like, no, show me a mom who's got, you know, a mom with kids. And I mean, just like all the things like we don't you know, an old saying is we all have the same 24 hours in a day. That's bullshit. You ever ever spent a day with a mom who's got a disabled kid? Have you ever spent a day as a single person or as a mom or a mom without a partner or a mom with a partner like we do not have the same 24 hours in a day. We don't.Lesley Logan 10:02  No. You're 100%.Jenny Schatzle 10:03  What we choose to do with our 24 hours is up to us. But comparing ourselves like, I don't have the same life at 44, with six-year-old twins and a husband that's gone a lot, but I still have a husband that's gonna come home. And he's all in. And he's an incredible partner, compared to a single mom who doesn't get the help, who has no family in town, or a 24-year-old, who's got a part-time job, who's a trust fund kid, or a 24-year-old who is barely making it and works, like we all have such different circumstances that we can't compare. You just, we got to stop comparing our days and our time.Lesley Logan 10:37  Yeah, the other day, my husband's gone for an overnight and I was like, wow, I got so much done today. Because I wasn't interrupted, I wasn't listening. So I'm like, you know, I don't even have the kids or the demanding things, or anybody who needs me more than a regular adult would need me. Like, I just have a husband who works with me and comes in my office at random times, I'm like, you are, you just stop interrupting me. So it's true. We all think we're supposed to be further along sooner than we are. And everyone else has a better and if we just had this and that seems like when I have or when this happens, those phrases, if you ever hear yourself saying them, you that should be like a red light to take a pause because you are not appreciating what's in the present and accepting what you have and what you can do. You know, I like to tell people, that it's brave and courageous to replace what you can't do yet with what you can. Because there's a lot of Pilates exercises that I teach in a class because it's an all-levels class, which means I have to hit the advanced people, too. And when I say is, if you're not ready for this exercise, yet, you're gonna replace it with some that was a challenge for you. And you're gonna remind yourself, it's brave and courageous to do something different in this moment, but also in every moment, it's actually the coolest thing to be the different person in the room. Everybody thinks that that person is actually doing really cool things that, you know, the people who become super awesome and super known aren't doing it because they were the same as everyone else. They did something to disrupt.Jenny Schatzle 12:00  And just if we're talking in the gym setting, because I've been in it as you had for a very long time. You know, I'm 44 years old now and my body, it hurts. You think it's not gonna happen to you, my knees hurt my hip hurts. I say I'm the captain of the Mod Squad. I own a gym, and I'm the one doing all the modifications in the gym setting. And I'm just gonna be brutally honest here. Nobody gives a shit what you're doing. Right? Like, nobody's actually watching you. Everybody's thinking 100% about themselves. I always joke in our gym, it's, people are just, they don't care. We have people who walk we have people who run and we have people who run really fast. If you're walking next to a person who's running fast, the person running and the person walking is not thinking about oh my gosh, this person is going so slow. They're thinking, when do I get off the treadmill? Right? When is this exercise over? When are we moving on? Like, when can I be? Nobody's watching you thinking that person is doing a terrible job. And that's just the story in our head. So many people always say, oh, I want to come take a class, I'm just scared or I need to get, I need to get in better shape, before I come take a class. (inaudible)Jenny Schatzle 13:04  I always say saying that is like saying you're too dirty to take a shower. I always like to remind everyone why we talk ourselves out of doing what we know is gonna make us feel good, right? Like when you're done with your Pilates, you feel so good. When you're done with a workout in my class, you feel so good. And yet we will sit and we will talk ourselves out of it. Because why? Because we're scared of what other people think because we don't like the size of our body because we think we can't do it. And before we've even tried, and you can't create a new habit, if you don't do it. And so this goes for all things like I tell people, you know, if you say I just want to start walking, you have to actually start walking and you got, you got to do it. Go 10 minutes for five, five days, you know, do 15 minutes of Pilates for 20 days in a row and see how it feels. You have to start and that goes for the same as I would say working out and then the lifelong I think everybody's like, I want to get more sleep, but you're unwilling to turn off the TV. Right? So you have to start like one of my big tricks and I'll go back to what you said too. I I like to give really easy actionable tools, because it's like anything, you can listen to a motivational speech or motivational podcast and you feel great. But then you're just like back to your normal life. Right? So it's before what you said with like, when people start comparing when you start comparing yourself or talking down to yourself, I tell people stop. Put your hand on your heart. And breathe and we're gonna do this together. Ready, everybody listening? Stop right where you are. Put your feet on the ground. Sit up straight. Relax your shoulders. Put your hand on your heart. And I want you to breathe in for five. Ready, breathe in. Go 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Now hold, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Breathe out, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Now we're gonna do it one more time. And you're just gonna breathe in and you're gonna breathe out. But when we breathe in, I want you to say, "Here." When we breathe out, I want you to say, "Now." Ready? Breathe in, here. Breathe out, now.Jenny Schatzle 15:23  So when we do that, we get back into our body. So we can remind ourselves, I am here now. And then how do you want to move forward? When we're starting to spiral in comparison, or that we're not good enough, or that maybe we shouldn't go when we know we really do want to show up, stop and do that. Take a breath. It's five in, hold five, out five. And then one more where you say here now. Lesley Logan 15:55  That's beautiful. Jenny Schatzle 15:55  My other tool. I know, right? So good. My other tool is, I'm a big component of, you know, I've never been technically tested or whatever. I have ADHD, I have all the things right? Like, I can't focus. That's why I'm in the fitness world. I get to be loud and dance around and listen to music and meet new people. Lesley Logan 16:15  You can be doing seven things at different times because everyone's doing over here. And you, I'm here. Brad and I are both undiagnosed.Jenny Schatzle 16:23  It's where I thrive, like I thrive in chaos. (Inaudible) Like, for me to sit still is really hard. I thrive in chaos. Anyway, so I have to set timers for myself. So for me, one of my big things is like, I am a mom, I have kids, like my alone time is at night. It's also where I do things that don't serve me like stay up too late watching TV, you know, I need sleep. So what, but I also don't believe in drastic, like takeaways from your life and things that like, it does make me happy to lay in bed and watch TV. And so I set timers now I'm like, okay, I'm gonna watch TV, either I'm gonna watch an episode for whatever it is, 30 minutes or an hour. Okay. And then after that, I set a timer for 20 minutes and I read and then I go to bed. So I'm doing one thing I enjoy. And I also enjoy reading. But reading before bed also helps me sleep better. Yeah, so it's not like I'm telling myself, you can't watch TV. But also, I don't want to watch. I mean, I do want to watch three hours of TV, but it doesn't serve me, right?Lesley Logan 17:26  Every time I stay up late to watch I'm like, I'm just gonna finish this. I regret it the next one, like why didn't I just space that show out three nights?Jenny Schatzle 17:33  Always. And it's not like watch it the next day, but I do have to cut myself off. So like, if I know the show is 45 minutes, I will literally set a timer and the timer goes off at the end. I'm like, okay, I need to turn it off. Because I need like a tool that's going to actually make me do it. Yeah, if that makes sense. Lesley Logan 17:51  It totally makes sense. Jenny Schatzle 17:51  I use it for everything in my life. You know, if I have to study for something. If I have to clean the kit- you've seen on my Instagram, I do a lot of the 10-minute cleanup, I'm a pretty messy person if we're being honest, but I like to clean the house. So I set a timer for 10 minutes, I can clean up as much as I can. And then I walk away. And some, you know, it takes me usually longer, but at least it gets it started. Anyway, I think setting a timer to do things is really helpful. Lesley Logan 18:18  We actually, we have kitchen timers around this house for everything because I was just before this interview, I was on a call with my assistant. And she's like, so and so wants to make sure this is gonna get done. I'm like, well, you can tell so and so that there was no time in the calendar for me to do that. And I'm going to do it. And it's gonna get done. When I can get it done. I'll have it to her by Monday just gives me like three days. But when I go to do that thing, I always set a timer for 15 minutes and everything's on Do Not Disturb. And there's actually a study that if you have a visible timer near you, you actually stay more focused. And for someone like me with undiagnosed ADD, it's really helpful because believe it or not, I can even write that newsletter in 15 minutes, because I am so focused, I'm like in it, I'm thinking of the person that it's going to help. But if I'm like, oh, I'm gonna sit down and then at this hour I have my time I can write my newsletters. I'll take the whole hour because everything will take the time we like give it so setting a timer for a project also allows you if you have multiple things to do that day, you can at least get them started. You can do 10 minutes of pickup and then go timer goes up. Okay, now I'm going to do 10 minutes of like getting back to people on these emails, you're never going to clean up the inbox, but you're at least going to feel like you've got something done. And you move the needle forward in your day. So we're big fans of timers around here.Jenny Schatzle 19:29  I love that. Same thing. Yeah. And that's one thing that's actually, really changed my life. Lesley Logan 19:34  Yeah, and I also, also messy not dirty, there's a difference like Brad's like can you just do something about your socks and I'm like, I just take them off wherever I am like that. I'll get them later.Jenny Schatzle 19:46  It's funny we laugh a lot. And we all have different things right? Like I'm I'm pretty messy at home but in the gym. I'm like crazy about the weights. The weights being stacked and the gym being super clean. It's pretty funny and people give me a hard time about it.Lesley Logan 19:58  Okay, one of the things I love about you is we're both fast talkers, we get to a lot in a little bit of time. You have two daughters, they cracked me up, you're so big on making sure that they are protected from hearing like terrible words. And something that you probably don't know is that around Thanksgiving, you post a thing about like ways to you know, handle rude or weird comments at the holidays and like also like how to handle those conversations. And in my coaching group, our our size diverse coach actually took that post and put it in her channel has like, hey, guys, this is that time of year where our customer, our clients say weird things. They're nervous to go home, here's some things you can arm them with. So for our listeners who you know, haven't gone back yet into, you guys are gonna binge on her Instagram. Before I hit play on this interview, I watched what you post about pink and I just cried. What are your things to help make sure that those family members around us who are not on board with like, what the lifestyle we want to live? How do we protect their terrible energy from harming our kids and even ourselves when we are like trying to live in this new place we love the body that we have?Jenny Schatzle 21:03  Yeah, I feel like I've been trying to get this question asked in all podcasts, and you're like the first person to ask this (inaudible). Thank you. Yeah, so and I am really big on honestly talking to moms about body image. So one thing I want to say too, is, yes, I'm trying to protect my kids. And also, it's impossible. And my kids obviously don't have phones, they're six, but they're gonna grow up with phones, social media, the media in general, because people will say to me, well, how are you going to keep them from hearing this message out in the world, but the stronger the message is at home, the stronger the base they have, and that is the goal. And again, it's not bad to tell your kids that they're pretty because I've had people message me and say, well, nobody ever said I was pretty nobody ever and I'm like, oh, I see that too. But I don't, we don't use like when my kids come out and they say do you like my outfit? Or anytime they walk out we always say, oh, you look so powerful. How do those clothes feel on your body? And they're like, good. So it's just kind of slightly changing the conversation? Or they say, How do I look? And I'm like, You look powerful. How do you feel? And so just having these slight interactions at home, we don't first think, oh, you look so pretty. That's not what we start with. And also, every holiday do a post, for the most part, and this isn't in every family. But for the most part, commenting, I'm very big on commenting on people's bodies, and that we don't do that anymore. And this even goes women to women, friends to friends, but a lot of times, especially around the holidays, going back home, I want a lot of people to know that most people don't do it to be mean, it's what is ingrained in them. And it's what they know. So even asking somebody, if they've lost weight is really triggering for a lot of people. And that person, your mom or your aunt or your cousin, they think you're giving a compliment. And I want to remind people that it's not a compliment. Okay, it's it's not only triggering, but underneath it all, it's telling us so many things. One, if somebody's like, oh, have you lost weight? We're getting this internal message that this person who just said that, they're paying attention to our body. They are paying attention to what we look like. And so I mean, I always say is have you, have you ever had somebody tell you you've lost weight and then the next time you saw them, maybe you've put some weight back on, and all you can think about is oh shit, they're gonna notice, right? Because we remember those things. And we remember the person, our body is a value to them, because they have now told us that they recognize and are paying attention to the size of our body. And so I think a lot of us, we don't think about that. And I always say, I'm not trying to be right, I'm just trying to create awareness, because so much of this language around bodies, is ingrained in us. And so a couple years ago, before I went back, I live in California, and I'm from Minnesota, and I sent a text to my family. And because I do this for a living and my family very much still talks about body and I grew up in a body-obsessed family. And then I went into the fitness world. So it continued very strongly and I said to them, basically, and I did post on my Instagram, but basically, how we talk to our family is, come from love, not from anger, because the minute you start blaming somebody and pointing the finger, like you said this, you can't say this around my kids, people's walls come up and they get very defensive. And we're trying to actually really create change. So we want to have very heartfelt open conversations. So I always start with this is what I've struggled with, you know, I've struggled with my body my entire life. And I'm really trying to change that for my children. That's number one. So I put out what I've struggled with and that I, as the mother of my children, I'm trying to change it for my children. Two, I asked for their help. So I'm going to ask for your help in this because you are a really big part of my children's lives. So I include the family in, right? Like, you are important, my kids are listening to you, they look up to you. And so I'm hoping that you'll help me in this. And what I'm asking is, please don't make any body comments about my body, my children's bodies, other people's bodies, you can do whatever you want, when I'm not around. But when I'm there with my children, could you just please respect that? And then on the third, I say, I love you and we're all trying to get better. And just, I really appreciate your help in this. So at first talk about my struggles, I then asked for their help with which also putting a little prompt in like, you know, you're a big part of this, I love you, my kids love you. And then thanking them and it has been really successful. Lesley Logan 25:44  I love it because it's, you take the responsibility, and you invite people, people always want to be asked to help people always want to feel like they're participating in a positive way. And they, and also people want to do it right. So if you tell them what not to do, that's not the same as telling them what to do. So, Joseph Pilates would never tell anyone what not to do. He would never say don't in a session. You would never hear him say that's not right, don't do that. He would only tell you what to do. And so in the same, as exactly how I teach people in Pilates, but that's exactly what you're saying here. It's like you're not telling your mom, hey, you used to talk badly about my body, it made me really self-conscious and I don't want to do that on my daughter's. That's not helping her understand what she can say around them or like what is possible. And of course, you're gonna shut down, the walls and they're gonna feel like they don't do anything, right. And so I love the way you phrase that I think that's amazing. Everyone, we'll have it in the blog on the website. So you could just go and copy and paste for your family texts.Jenny Schatzle 26:40  And it's funny when I sent it, everybody was like, oh, like, how did your family respond? And I'll be honest, my family did not respond. So just, everyone should know that nobody texted back. Nobody responded. And then no one said anything while we were there.Lesley Logan 26:56  One of the major holidays.Jenny Schatzle 26:57  You might not get the response, and this is also to like, everybody's family is so different and also, it's so hard because I think a lot of times, especially when we are trying to break cycles and change conversations within our own families, we're hurt. And we, and it's upsetting. A lot of our family members aren't trying to be, they literally don't know better. They just have to think about like, how were they brought up? Who said, you know, anytime body comments are made, this is also a good reminder for us. Because, you know, we all think things it's you can't say like, don't judge because we're going to judge, but you can, in the moment of judgment. I've said this on your podcast. In the moment, the first thing we think is what is ingrained. The second thing we think, or what we do after that is who we want to be, right? So we judge, but then we get to shut ourselves down like, oh, wait, why do I care what she's wearing? That's none of my business. I don't even know her, right? Like, oh, so and so's body? What? Why do I care? What, I, that's none of my business. And so people who talk about other people's bodies, and we know this, we just have to remember this. It's everything to do with their body. You know, and so always think like, how did they grow up? What is ingrained in them? And so not trying to be right, like, get angry, I'm just trying to create awareness. Like, oh, yeah, maybe I shouldn't say this. And even when you have these conversations, and a lot of times, you're not going to get the response you want, like, you are so right, I am so sorry. You know, thank you. What we want people (inaudible), but a lot of times people might shut down or people just might not respond. But the fact is, you've planted the seed and now they're thinking about it. So you need to go in with I'm just trying to create awareness, not get the response I need.Lesley Logan 28:44  Yeah, yeah. And I think that's really amazing to understand our expectations, you know, to manage our expectations so that it's, it can be a change. And I thank you for updating us on how it went, which is that no one said anything about bodies and what a, what a cool Christmas.Jenny Schatzle 29:02  It's a reminder to and to shut it down. What were they saying? I don't think I actually ended up pushing. I made a video of it. Because after I went to lunch, there was a group of women and somebody made a comment about like, bathing suits and their bodies and trying on and then I was like, I was like, this is not the lunch I signed up for like I came to talk with some awesome powerful women. And like we're all fabulous. And you know what? And I looked at my friend and I said, are you an able body? Are you healthy? Do you feel good? And she's like, yeah, I'm gonna, I'm like, great. Let's start respecting that. And you know what, I got more important things to talk about, than what we look like in bathing suits, because I think we all look fabulous. And what's really going on? How's your marriage? Right? It's like, a lot of times, when we're talking about body and food, it's because we don't want to talk about the real stuff. And I don't want to sit around with a bunch of women and talk about how fat we are like how big your ass is, how you don't like, you know, I want to be able to support each other in a really positive way. And so it's like, okay, you're not feeling good in your body. What's really going on? Like, let's really talk about it. Lesley Logan 30:07  Yeah, I like how you make it a fun joke. And then like, like kind of just like bring it to people's attention, because it's one of those things. It's like a domino effect, someone says something that someone else goes, and like, let's just be really honest, I don't know who the fit models are for bathing suits, but you're never just pick the size that fits you and don't, just tear the tag out ladies like you don't, it doesn't matter that you don't get to buy the small or the medium. Because no one sees a tag on the outside. Just pick the bathing suit that makes you feel good, and let it go and be the abled, I love what you call it, able-bodied. We forget that we have the ability to get out into the pool and go run around and go swim. And so like, there's, that's the least of our worries. It's like, if we look good enough in a bathing suit when no one's paying attention to you looking in a bathing suit.Jenny Schatzle 30:51  And most people don't, I'm gonna be honest, like, there's some staggering statistic like 90 something percent of women dislike their body. I mean, it's gut-wrenching. And so what are we doing to change that? You know, what we need to do? We need to show up in our body today. That's what we need to do. We need to stop basing our conversations with other women around how much we hate our bodies. Our kids don't grow up and are like, you know what, I'm really glad my mom never gotten a bathing suit. I talk a lot about moms because I am a mom. And I do believe that moms, and I'm in a very progressive marriage. But I mean, I'm gonna be honest, I run this house, right, and like our energy, and it's statistically known also that, how if we're talking about women, I do speak to women. But this goes for girls and boys, our kid's body image is directly affected to a mother's body image. And so if we want our children to have an, you know, I have a lot of moms and say, well, I don't ever talk bad about my body in front of my kids. It's an energy, like, we possess it. And our kids know, like, we, how we show up in our body is an energy and so and how we change that conversation is we have to, and when I say this, I don't wake up every day, like, I'm amazing, my body's perfect. Like I, I'm 30 pounds heavier than I was, when I probably technically, right like looked my best, according to society. But my body image was worse. Because I was so obsessed with food and body that it took me out of living my life. Now, I'm heavier, but I am at my healthiest, I feel so strong. And I'm confident in the way that if I don't feel if I'm having a bad body image day, I will still put on the shorts and I will still go out into the world. Like I will show up in my body every single day because I can even when I don't want to. And I think that's really what it's about. And it's about showing my girls that there is all these different size bodies, and my kids are not going to grow up and say, I'm really glad my mom never got in the water. I'm really glad my mom covered her arms and her thighs and never showed her belly. No kid is gonna say that. And so I don't care if you were a moomoo, a bikini, a one piece, like show up to your life in your body, show up with your kids get in the frickin water. And who cares. Like I did a whole thing about spring break. And going with like, a lot of times you go to spring break with other families, and you're so worried about the other moms and what they look like in their body and what they're gonna think, well guess what? They're worried about the same shit. It's like, just put on the frickin suit, go get in the pool, eat a burger by the pool and have some fun with your family and your friends. We're missing out on Ives, because we're so obsessed about what other people think of our bodies.Lesley Logan 33:33  Yeah. Oh my gosh, clearly, we could keep going. I I love when we get together. I really wish I had an excuse to go walk with you on the beach again, in Santa Barbara, like we did. That was the best time. Okay, y'all are gonna just follow her. But we're gonna find out where we could follow her and her Be It Action Items for us in just a brief second. Lesley Logan 33:50  All right, Jenny. So people are gonna want to binge out on all of your content. They want to like literally get all of this reminders all the time, because my goodness, I agree. Ladies, please keep showing up and showing yourself out there in the world. It doesn't have to be on social media, because it helps people see all the different beauties that are out there. But where can people find you follow you and connect with you?Jenny Schatzle 34:10  Thank you. Yeah, Instagram is my biggest platform. So come to my Instagram, I answer all my DMs. So if you have questions, please message me. I love to hear from you guys. Yeah. And I just, I hope that you, we are all here for the conversation. And we're out there breaking the cycle, because it is not easy. This is one of the hardest things. (Inaudible) I'm 10 years sober. And this is way harder than getting sober. Right? Like learning to accept your body and who you are. But every time, every single listener out there, every time you show up as your authentic self, you give women around you permission to do the same.Lesley Logan 34:46  Yeah, you do. You know like there's so much that you have taught me from before I had you on the pod from when I just got to know you and to follow you. And then different times I have been able to experience you. You're right, there are certain things that are ingrained in us and I'll say it are all here (inaudible) hold on that's actually not how I feel about myself. That's not how I want to feel. And you help me be it till I see it. So I know you're gonna help our listeners. Before I let you go bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Jenny Schatzle 35:18  Oh, I love it. Okay, one, the breath. We went over there. And that was a huge tool. It doesn't cost you anything. You can do it at any time. Two, we both have this tool, set your timers. Alright? Let's get on a time, let's like start something. Can we like, we're going to start.Lesley Logan 35:31  Let's do a timer challenge. Jenny Schatzle 35:32  A challenge like we'll come up with (inaudible) together, make it official. And then the third thing is, and I'm just gonna be honest, this is again, it sounds like a cheesy self-help thing and it's changed my life. People, you got to journal, I'm coming out with a 90 ways in 90 days, and it's 90 days of body image journal prompts. So keep your eye out on that. But even before that, people throw this tool away. Like it's like, it's so funny. I think a lot of times, we make things harder than they need to Lesley Logan 36:04  Yeah, because I'm gonna tell you, my listeners are gonna want to know what should they journal?Jenny Schatzle 36:07  (Inaudible) 90 ways in 90 days to love your body. And so, but for now, until that comes out. For now, again, set your timer. Okay, here's what you do. Sit down, do your breath. Set your timer for five minutes. And literally write everything that's going on in your head. I call it free writing. It's just even if you're writing, I don't know what to write, the thoughts will start to come out. It's five minutes. Don't worry about grammar. Don't worry about punctuation. This is again, one of such an easy tool that doesn't cost money that will literally, five minutes today, it can change your life. And it boosts creativity. If you're feeling stuck not only in your body, but in work or in your family or in your relationships. Guaranteed. If you were to start free writing five minutes a day, in 30 days, things would be different.Lesley Logan 36:56  I agree. Okay. I can't wait for your journal to come out. You have to let me know so I can promote it here on the pod and share with people. (inaudible) Oh, please, please, please. I'm so in. I am, I love a good prompt and I actually think that there's so many journals out there that are prompting us about mantras and affirmations. But like this is the journal that all these women are needing and imagine what's gonna happen, oh my God, I can't wait, there's got to be a 90-day challenge, we're gonna have to do that, too. So just let me know when we're all signed up for that. Jenny Schatzle, every time I see you, you just bring so much joy to my heart and my life and no matter where my level of vibration was, which is already in a great spot. I'm already in another spot and I've learned so much from you. So thank you for being the woman that you are and really helping all of us. And I'm not getting, my, my entire Agency community like follows you and we put you in this one channel because you also have helped, you know, for Pilates instructors, we want to say things that are gonna be helpful for our clients. And so in that channel, the girl is like instead of saying like, oh, you look like you've lost weight, which is a thing that a Pilates instructor or gym teacher could end up saying to people in that environment would can be what used to be considered appropriate. But instead it's like, oh, you look so strong today. Oh, I love that you did this exercise. Wow, you're so fun to be around. You're like, your energy's amazing class. Like, all those things are super complimentary, make people feel so seen and have nothing to do with their actual body. Like what it looks like, which is so great. So you have really been such a part of our lives in that way. So thank you. Y'all, how are you going to use these tips in your life? Please let Jenny Schatzle know. Tag her. Tag the Be It Pod and you send this to a friend, send this to the friend who's complaining about her bathing suit so that she can hear it from us instead of you. If you don't feel comfortable telling her yet right and and so, thank you so much everyone and until next time, be it till you see it.Lesley Logan 38:50  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Lesley Logan 39:18  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 39:33  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 39:38  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 39:42  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 39:49  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 39:53  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this revealing episode, Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell delve into the profound insights of Tracy O'Malley, a renowned performance coach and Enneagram expert. Tracy's unique application of the Enneagram in personal growth and professional environments opens up transformative perspectives on understanding and enhancing human behavior. Tune in to discover how the Enneagram can revolutionize self-awareness and interpersonal relationships, and learn which test can help you uncover your true Enneagram number.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How Lesley discovered her true Enneagram number through Tracy's. Power of Enneagram to foster deeper communication and understanding.Importance of acknowledging behaviors before planning future actions.The sectioned journaling approach for understanding weakness and strengths. Episode References/Links:OPC Summer CampOPC Summer Tour WaitlisteLevate Mentorship ProgramTracy O'Malley WebsiteEnneagram Type Blueprint (Use code BEIT to receive a 5% discount)  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  If you were two-seven-eight you are caring, innovative and protective. You want to be helpful, loving, and straightforward. You are assertive, funny, and outgoing. You like to use your charming and sunny disposition to create an upbeat, positive, and action-packed environment. You are also very nurturing to those in your circle of care. I mean, does that not sound exactly like me?Lesley Logan 0:22  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:04  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the empathetic convo I had with Tracy O'Malley in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one make sure you go back and listen to that one and then come back and listen to this one or you can listen to this one because I got some really great stuff. I have permission to talk about me and what I learned and you can go listen to Tracy to figure out why I trusted her to talk about me.Brad Crowell 1:27  I would just say don't skip it. Lesley Logan 1:29  Don't skip it. Brad Crowell 1:30  The interview was really awesome. She's definitely a strong personality but she has amazing things to say.Lesley Logan 1:38  She's an eight. And also, even if you think you know the Enneagram, I'm just going to tell you right now, she knows the Enneagram. And I did a little binge on her podcast on our flight home from Nashville. I think I listened to eight episodes. And I still, I don't even think I understand like the E of the Enneagram at all. So she is just such a wealth of knowledge and you are going to if you like the Enneagram if you really like learning about yourself, you can actually learn about it. It's even better when you actually trust the Enneagram and use the Enneagram for others. That's her biggest thing. So I also just want to point out if you're watching this on YouTube, Brad made a funny facial expression when I said the word empathetic. I think he was impressed that I didn't screw up the cadence of that sentence. I'm just going to call it out for the people at home who are not watching. So today is May 23rd 2024 and it is World Turtle and Tortoise Day. About this day, turtles and tortoises are common sightings in parable stories and pop culture and we celebrate World Turtle Day on May 23rd to honor these resilient animals. Turtles and tortoises are associated with wisdom and perseverance. They are reptiles that are found in many environments all around the world, including Las Vegas, I'll tell you about that. These creatures play an important role in their respective ecosystems. They dig holes that are inhabited by other creatures and keep our breaches orBrad Crowell 2:55  Keep those breaches clean.Lesley Logan 2:56  They keep our beaches clean by feeding on dead fish that wash up on the shores. They maintain an ecological balance and therefore it's important to conserve these gentle animals. Our neighborhood has several tortoises and one of our neighbors has three and they've had them for 30 years. And like when they got them they were like the size of like a quarter or something like that. And they're huge. And when our dogs are on a walk on the occasion that they spot them it is, our dogs are like what is that creature? What is happening? Our neighbors just let their tortoise like walk around theirBrad Crowell 3:28  They have a fence in their front yard and they let it walk around in the front yard. Lesley Logan 3:33  Yes. And then occasionally, especially during the pandemic, it was really fun in my Facebook group like there's a tortoise in my backyard is this anyone's? And like check so and so they tag so, nope, not mine. Brad Crowell 3:43  Is this the O'Malley's? Lesley Logan 3:45  Oh, it's like so, it's so funny. Nope, nope, got my, well now it's on. I mean, this turtle like or tortoise moved quickly like it got from backyard to backyard. So at any rate, go celebrate a tortoise or turtle today. All right, we are getting super close, super close to the OPC summer camp. It is June first and second. It is not too late to buy tickets. So you want to get your tickets and join us live. But if you can't join us live you can join, you can get the replay for life. It is really cool. Brad Crowell 4:14  Earlybird is literally closing in like two days. Lesley Logan 4:16  Two days. So if you are listening to this three days after first of all, you should listen to it when it comes up. Just saying. I'm just gonna call you out right now.Brad Crowell 4:23  Go to opc.me/events that's plural, opc.me/events and pick up your summer camp tickets. To be quite honest, the day pass is where it's at. You're gonna save up to 56%. We have a day pass for each day. So pick up both.Lesley Logan 4:40  We have incredible like we have Katie Donnelly, who's doing a pre/postnatal workshop. So if you are a Pilates lover who's going to get pregnant or wants to get pregnant, it's a great one. If you're a Pilates teacher who teaches anyone who does, who's going to get pregnant like it's a really great informative course on how the Pilates practice can be supportive for the pre/postnatal and specifically birthing and then we also have a pelvic floor mat class. And that is so cool. I'm so excited to have Erin Donohue doing that. We have a breast cancer mat class. We have a Tower of Power Happy Hour with Lisa. Brad Crowell 5:12  We have one for hypermobility. Lesley Logan 5:13  We (inaudible) we're going to nerd out on The Long Stretch with Rachel. We're doing Happy Hips with Yasmine. I just have to say Brad, you probably missed it. But like Heather's promotion, Heather Ingram who's doing the breast cancer and powermat, she was like, "Got hips? Take this class. Got knees? Take this workshop." I died laughing. Anyways, you guys there's something for everyone. And yours truly is teaching a ladder barrel workout. Yep, you can do 50-minute workout on the ladder barrel. Want to find out how? Because I'm doing it. Join me. So that's opc.me/events plural. And then we are actually, probably when this comes out have already probably announced the actual stops for the Summer Tour. I'm gonna be honest, we are already pretty much locked in for Summer Tour, but it's around the corner. And so if you want to make sure you hear about our summer tour, there is a waitlist that we send out to but Brad knows that link and I don't. At any rate, we are going to do the Midwest. So andBrad Crowell 6:08  It's actually, opc.me/event, singular. Events, plural takes you to the summer camp page. Event, singular, takes you to the waitlist. Lesley Logan 6:08  May I just suggest like opc.me/tour. Brad Crowell 6:22  Yeah, we're gonna do that. Lesley Logan 6:23  Yeah, we should just change that right now. That doesn't make any sense. At any rate. We're going to the Midwest, and I heard some people say, Oh, I don't know, the summer in Milwaukee people go to the shore, guess what, I'm coming to Milwaukee in the summer. I'm not coming in the winter, you can guess why. So you know, plan accordingly. And then lastly, we are about to open up the applications for eLevate, my mentorship program. I can only take 12 people in that group. And if you want to be one of those 12 then you want to go to lesleylogan.co/elevate. I think that's ew for the waitlist.Brad Crowell 6:58  Oh, E-W for the waitlist, you're right. Lesley Logan 7:00  But you can go to eLevate as well. You can read up on it. But E-W is the waitlist and the people on the waitlist are the ones who get the information on how to apply. So you know, do that. Okay, before we get into Tracy's epicness What is today's audience question?Brad Crowell 7:13  All right, we got elkicam90 on Instagram says hey, how to learn cueing skills. So she's clearly talking about Pilates teaching y'all.Lesley Logan 7:25  Yes. So if you're a Pilates teacher, this is for you. There's this like app like I don't know, there's obsession with the word cueing? Like, what's the cue for that? How do you best cue for that? How do you best do this? And I just want to actually say to you, very few percentage of the population are auditory learners. So doesn't matter how amazing your cue is. They can hear it, they can understand the words coming out of your mouth, but applying it into their body is going to be challenging. And so what I actually teach in eLevate is not cueing skills, but seeing-with-your-eyes skills, so that you can see what's going on in a body, you can ask them to do something for you. And so Joseph Pilates would actually not cue you, that wasn't I think he did, he would tell you what to do, I would call it a direction, he would give you a direction of what to do, right? And so he would tell you what to do, he would never tell you what not to do. That's not a cue, either. He would tell you what to do. And so if you can't do it, if I were to say, like, you know, reach your arms on your back, I don't know, that's what we're talking about, let's just say I would say that, your shoulders and your ears, and I would ask you to put your shoulders on your back. If you didn't do it. If you didn't hear me, I don't need to repeat myself. I can even use my hands to put my hands on your back to tell you what I want. That's gonna be a good for a kinesthetic learner. If you can't do that, it's not a cue you need. It's an exercise you need to correct what is missing from your body. And so that's really important to me, because I think a lot of teachers are literally going crazy bananas, trying to figure all these cues. People are really buying cues from people, like here's all my cues for the long stretch shares, and they're selling them. You know, I'm all about making money. So do it. You do you if you want to sell them, but for those you who would be buying them, let me just tell you, zip your lips, use your eyes, and ask yourself what do they need? And whatever they need is the exercise you're going to give them and they're going to think you're a fucking genius.Brad Crowell 9:22  I mean, have you ever asked someone you pointed out somebody's muscle and said, turn this on? Right? And they, they can't, right? That's often what cueing is like, because they don't know how to connect to it. Yeah, so like (inaudible) teacher. They're like, hey, I get what you're saying. But it's still not doing it. Lesley Logan 9:46  Yeah, because Brad is a client, right? Brad does Pilates as a client, he does yoga as a client. He's been to many yoga class where they're cueing. If you want to do this, you can do this. You want to do this. You can do this. And he's hearing it, can't apply it and then he's distracted, because he's trying to figure out what the hell you said. But then he moved on to something else anyways.Brad Crowell 10:06  Well, that's, there's that too. I mean, if the accused gets too complicated, then you're like, "What do you say?" You know and then that we've already moved through it. But I often laugh, because, you know, there were moments where I turned to my teacher, after like years of being in the practice, and I was like, "Dude, how come you've never said that before? And he's like, I say it every week. What are you talking about? It was the first time that I was able to turn on the thing, or connect the dots in my own body, feel it, and then associate that feeling with what he was saying. Right? So it was the first time that I actually heard him saying it because I actually felt it in my body. So I think that like what, you know, you can have all the cues that you want, but if they're not actually doing it, the cue is just gonna wash over them.Lesley Logan 10:48  And also, that isn't going to retain a client well. I'm just going to tell you right now, if they hear you, but can't do it, they're gonna feel like they're not good enough. And they're not going to come back.Brad Crowell 10:57  But I think what's cool about Pilates, and it's actually a lot, there are some similarities for yoga, like, like, what my teacher would do is put me over a block, and then help me or maybe we were using a chair, or maybe we're using the wall or some kind of a thing. In Pilates, it's so cool. Because if they can't figure it out on the mat, or they can't figure it on the reformer, guess what you can do? You could take them over to the chair, or the Cadillac or the thing, but how do you know what to take them to? For which thing they need to turn on? You should do eLevate. That's a big help.Lesley Logan 11:31  (Inaudible) Well, Brad, I'm so impressed your understanding of what they should do. Yeah. So anyways, elkicam90, this is, I hope this helps you understand. I hope this frees you from having to come up with a really incredible way of saying put your feet in a strap. Like the thing about SNL that pissed me the fuck off. Like I, every single person in our life has sent me the SNL clip. Some people just sent to me yesterday. And I'm like, you know, I already have seen it 17 times. I actually didn't think it was funny. I was horrified by it. Because once SNL comes like, thinks something is funny enough to share with the general public, it means the general public has enough knowledge that they can laugh at this. And Brad Crowell 12:18  That means they probably experienced like, SNL takes the thing and they exaggerate it to the extreme and make it ridiculous. But there's a route to it that people can still connect. Yeah. And so yeah, they're, they're actually like, that means that people have this pretty sad misconception of Pilates out there. Lesley Logan 12:39  Yeah. And that it's like put your hands down, straps on your feet, straps into the thing and that I believe Pilates is for everybody. And the only way we're going to have everyone feel like Pilates is accessible for them is that we actually have to teach the body that's in front of us with what they're capable of doing. So ditch the cues, look at their body, tell them what to do. End of rant. Next day.Brad Crowell 13:03  Stick around. All right, now let's talk about Tracy O'Malley. Tracy O'Malley is a master performance coach, coach highly sought after by Fortune 500 companies, she expertly integrates the Enneagram into various aspects of life, leveraging her deep insights into human behavior to help individuals and teams enhance their relationships and decision-making skills. Her approach not only promotes a harmonious environment at work and home, but also empowers her clients to overcome the beliefs that restrict their growth. I love that summary of what Tracy does. And I was really touched by her personal story about how she began to apply the Enneagram in her relationships, and how it really helped her shift the way she thought about herself, too. I thought it was really awesome.Lesley Logan 13:56  I know it shifted how she's parenting her children. It shifted how she, how she led teams that she helped make people make tons of money based on like, what their Enneagram style is, right? And that's so cool. Because again, that's going back to the cueing, right? Like how she's directing a team. She can't go, "This is your script." Everyone uses script. Which is generally what, like some network marketing things could do. Right? Like, they're like, hey, hon, and then they like have a script. Brad Crowell 14:24  Or a teacher training program. Lesley Logan 14:26  Yeah. Yeah.Brad Crowell 14:27  You know, like in Pilates like it's, and the way I see it is it's a, it's a fantastic place to start, but then you have to adjust it and make it yours.Lesley Logan 14:37  And so but instead of you having to adjust it, she used it as a leader to help you adjust it to you and I so I could go on and on about like the things that I loved that she said like every day is a new day for clean slate and there's some really great stuff in there. I'm gonna actually just like tell you what I learned by working with Tracy because I actually think that that's a better use of my time in this recap.Brad Crowell 14:58  Explain that a little bit more. So you, after your interview, what happened? Lesley Logan 15:01  Okay, so after the interview, like when we stopped hitting record, we were talking about I said, yeah, I know I'm a seven like with an eight wing. And she said, I don't think so. And you have to understand Tracy and I have already done a couple of calls and some emails back and forth. Just calls like she, she, Jake Helfer was the person who suggested she should be on the show, email back and forth, and we got on a call, it was supposed to be 15 minutes, it took 45 minutes. So like, we did have like, a conversation so where she, (inaudible) whereas she's so clearly good at this, she could like evaluate a lot of the ways that I was expressing things and, and telling her like how we work and all this stuff. Anyways, then we did the interview. And she said, I see the seven and eight, but I don't think that that's your primary number. Brad Crowell 15:46  Interesting. Lesley Logan 15:46  So I actually did her blueprint, which we have the link for you to use in the show notes. If you want to click our link, and then you'll want to use Be It in the coupon code area. So you can get a discount on her blueprint. Brad Crowell 15:59  Yeah, so click a link in the show notes to let her know that we sent you, and then use the coupon during checkout to actually apply the discount. What this, it explains what a seven means. And an eight means.Lesley Logan 16:09  Yes, but also, I'm not. Brad Crowell 16:11  Well, that's not my point. My point is if you're listening to this, and you're like, what the fuck are they talking about? A seven or an eight on, the Enneagram is like an evaluation tool that allows you to.Lesley Logan 16:22  She sent me a 76-page evaluation. So let me tell you like you. And it explains a lot of other numbers. I got to read stuff about you. And I got to share stuff about you when I was on it, but also explains things about me and different things. And I literally emailed her, I was like, I don't like this sentence.Brad Crowell 16:41  I don't like the 37th line on page 83. Lesley Logan 16:46  No, like a two would do. I'm like, I don't like this. I don't like this. But here's the thing I did, I do have seven, eight in me. So but two is my primary number. Brad Crowell 16:58  Interesting. Lesley Logan 16:58  So here is the thing. So she, I'm a self-preservation two. So an SP2 is how that would be put. If you're listening to our podcast, you'll hear like SP I'm sure there's other stuff. I don't know enough about that yet. But I am a self-preservation two and it presents a little different than some of the stereotype stuff of two's. So I'm a little bit more covert in my over-giving and over-involving. But if I get to a breaking point, then I get a little spicier than the average two. So like that's where like I can have that eight, that Tracy spice that you guys all got to experience. And then there's a couple other things but she said my tri type, which I'd never even heard of a tritype, but this is where that seven and eight comes from. It's just like your tritype is the 278 otherwise known as the free spirit, which apparently some of our best friends are the same tritypes. Of course, we're attracted to each other. But here's what she wrote. I mean, like you guys, 76 pages and then this information. Innovative and direct two, this is the most independent, assertive and outgoing two. This two needs freedom and can appear to be a seven or eight needs to be on the go and to do for others. Eight-ish two especially if self-preserving like a jam, self-preserving, which you are, if you are 2-7-8, you are caring, innovative and protective. You want to be helpful, loving and straightforward. You are assertive, funny and outgoing. You like to use your charming and sunny disposition to create an upbeat, positive and action-packed environment. You are also very nurturing to those in your circle of care. I mean, like does that not sound exactly like me? Exactly like me. So anyways, and then like, there was some other stuff, which is like when I get overwhelmed, I get spicy. You have experienced, my schedule gets out of whack. I'm like, oh, I like, I like in rage. But I also get pissed off at people when they take advantage of my people. And I'm like, Mother Bear. I got a little mad on the drive home yesterday. I was like you email that person right now and you tell them I think they're taking advantage of my people. So anyways, she. Brad Crowell 19:03  That happened, you all.Lesley Logan 19:05  Yeah, so she also emailed me some episodes, I can listen to her on her podcast. Brad Crowell 19:10  Oh, cool. Lesley Logan 19:11  Because she's an amazing podcast. If you do know your number, and you're pretty sure I'd say you can actually go in and learn. But if you also know the numbers of people in your family, you can go listen to our podcasts and learn more about them. Or you can work with Tracy and she'll tell you how to parent or work with your partner. Based on that, she was talking about I think it was on a podcast or either outside the podcast. I can't remember at this point. But we're talking about her partner has a different number than her. And based on her knowing his style, she's able to not take things personally. It's just great. I just loved it anyways, you can talk about what you liked.Brad Crowell 19:40  I love it. All right. Well, she said the Enneagram is also a language because when we understand each other, well you understand everything and I was kind of already hinting at this after I did the intro, but I loved listening to her tell her rebel, like, don't-put-me-in-a-box mentality when she first was introduced to the Enneagram, when she submitted herself to rehab, which is pretty extreme. Right? And she, when she was sitting there with this person. And she said, I find her, she's clearly very analytical. The reason I say that is because she tests people, she tested her, shrinks when she was going through them, right, she would show them one side of her and not another, and then basically see if they figured it out. She started pushing back on this person when she went into rehab. And the person in rehab basically called her out in a very kind way, and said, the way you've been thinking and the way you've been doing it, brought you here, so let's make a change. Right? And when she dove headfirst into this, what I thought was really amazing was her willingness to embrace it, because she was in rehab for only 30 days, y'all. And that changed her life. Right? That's kind of amazing that you could go into a place. And in that time, learn a tool, a language that would allow her to come out, not only being self-reflective, but being understanding enough to use that information when engaging with others. So that was really impressive to me. But the way that she uses a language was, she came home. And she realized that basically, her children, she was definitely trying to educate them, guide them, teach them, parent them in the way that she is only the way that she is and it was her way or the highway. And when she came with, you know, back with this, equipped with this tool, the Enneagram tool, it gave her this different perspective of what would connect best with my child, if I can understand how they can think then I can understand what to say, or put in front of them, that is going to empower them to do the thing that I'm trying to teach them to do. And so she made this dramatic shift. And that's how the Enneagram became a language for her. I think that's amazing. She said, when we understand each other, we build credibility and trust. And we build a culture that is bulletproof. And obviously in that case, she's talking about executives leading a team. But what in that same vein, she also, lead by example, right? Because she started a network marketing, she started in network marketing, she built a team of over 100,000 people, seven of those people or six of those people are making over seven figures, right? And she said, they're all different Enneagram types. So if she just went in like a power, you know, move and said, This is the only way to do it right, then probably none of like, maybe one of those people would have been able to pull it off to connect with her in the way that she was laying down. This is how it has to be. But that's not how she leads, she led in a way that allowed her to understand what would empower that person, because she could understand the language that they are speaking. And then consequently, she was able to build this powerhouse team. So she passes that off now to, you know, businesses and people who run teams, which is I just think it's so cool. I love that. I love the fact that you could understand something so well that you can effectively, you know, put yourself in the shoes of someone else. There's a lot of empathy in that.Lesley Logan 23:31  Yeah, I think it's really cool. And we love the string finders and things like that. And we've done a lot of research on that. But as we discussed in the last Enneagram episode, like Strength Finders is like what you do. And like Enneagram is kind of like why you do it that way. Why that's it is. And I think the why just like in life, like why you do anything is more important than what you do. The what can change, or the how can change. So I think this is really fascinating. I don't really, I like kind of want this to be a hobby. Maybe this is a hobby, you know, I'm hobby hunting guys. So we'll see I'm gonna I'm gonna binge down on the episodes Tracy sent me about me, of course, and then maybe I'll figure out you.Brad Crowell 24:11  Alright, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Tracy O'Malley? She said most of us go to awareness. Like how do we fix this? How do I make this thing stop. And she's talking about behaviors, right? And we go from awareness to action, but we skipped the most important step right? So I was trying to think of an example and nothing was coming to me right there, y'all. So sorry about that. But the idea is this, we come in with this idea of what we need to fix. So then we go we learn about the thing that we need to fix, right? And then we just try to go fix it. And what she's saying is that we're missing the most important step, which is acknowledgment. And I thought this was really powerful. She said this is, the acknowledgement phase is where we connect the dots. And the Enneagram can help them connect those dots faster. But we need to be able to reverse engineer how we got here. And the behaviors that we have to work out, right? And she was talking about her 50 years. And when she first started looking at this was 10 years ago, so 40 years of her, you know, in herself, like doing it the way that she was doing it, before she decided that there was some kind of change that need to happen. But instead of just going and implementing that change, she was reflective. And that, I think, is that acknowledgement. So when you find the answer, it's great to go and execute that answer. And we're all about taking messy action. And we definitely agree with that. But what Tracy is arguing here is, how did you get to where you are, now that you understand what you need to go do? Acknowledge that you are where you are today? And there is some reflection, that will be beneficial. Lesley Logan 25:58  Yeah, yeah. So okay, you know, do you guys plan on this, but we actually tell people about their Be It Action Items, like what they can suggest and what they can't suggest. And we actually say, like, if you're going to tell them to journal, you have to tell them what to journal. And Tracy went above and beyond on that. So here's what you're gonna do. I know my Be It listeners, you guys all have a bunch of journals that you bought, because they're pretty and they're sitting there, and you've written nothing in them. So you're going to take one of them. And she wants you to divide it in three sections based on age. So like, you can literally, don't do three pages, like literally put a bookmark or somehow identify three sections. And she wants the first section to be age zero to seven. The second section is age eight to 13. And the third section is 14 and up. And then she says like, go on a five-minute technology free walk every day as time for you to develop an inner dialogue, internal dialogue with your inner child. And so then when you come back from your walk, you can actually start to unpack your timeline. And so as you have memories, from having an internal dialogue, you can go put them in the sections, and kind of get them on paper. And she says this will help you acknowledge and understand different patterns, and transform potential weaknesses and strengths. And she emphasized that the inner work is never truly done and should be an ongoing effort. So I thought that was a really unique way to think about journaling. And to, like, get those thoughts to just like stick around in our heads swirling around and like kind of get them somewhere where you can actually like see them and start to see and recognize the behaviors that are coming up through your life and how they keep coming up. And, and so that's the only way to do the inner work. You know, like, I love when I hear people. I'm like, I'm like the hills or whatever some sort of pie has, like I've done my inner work. I've worked on my inner child, and I'm good now it's like, ah, red flag. You're not done. All right, who is going to go do their Enneagram blueprint? I want to know.Brad Crowell 28:01  Raise your hand. Lesley Logan 28:02  Raise your hand. Brad Crowell 28:02  No, tell it the pod. DM us. DM us. Leave a comment on YouTube.Lesley Logan 28:08  Yeah, tell us what you came up with. And like I just, it was it's super thorough. And I really found this to be really fascinating because not just about me, it's about how I can work with the team. So now I like want to know everybody who I've dealt with on the team's information. So I can like, you know, understand how to motivate them better and how to get them to do the thing that they want to do better. Anyways, that might take me a couple, it might take me years because obviously it's a lot of information. But until then, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 28:32  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 28:33  Thank you so much for joining us today. How are you going to use these tips in your life? Go check out Tracy O'Malley's podcast check out her Enneagram. Use the Be It Pod. Brad Crowell 28:42  Or click the link below in the pod notes and then use Be It Pod during checkout. Lesley Logan 28:47  Yeah. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 28:50  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 28:51  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Lesley Logan 29:19  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Explore the transformative aspects of feminine energy in this insightful Recap episode with Brad and Lesley. Together, they debunk common misconceptions and underline the significant benefits of feminine energy in empowering women to lead with both vulnerability and confidence. Focusing on critical life areas—love, career, and friendships—this episode invites listeners to evaluate their own beliefs, values, and the energies they embody. Discover the importance of balancing masculine and feminine energies, a key to achieving both personal well-being and professional success.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Recognize the benefits of employing feminine energy.Identifying your core values by reflecting on what you don't want.How to examine your masculine energy to shift into a feminine space.Why managing your energy contributes to creating a positive environment.Episode References/Links:OPC Summer CampCambodia 2025 Early BirdOPC Summer TourBarrels Flashcards2025 eLevate Round 5 & New Release of the Mat FlashcardsTower Power Happy Hour with Liza OsoteoMary McMonagle LinktreeMary McMonagle InstagramMary McMonagle PodcastKelli Adame Episode 346 on Masculine Energy  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  What I would say is see your feminine energy as a superpower. And be okay being in it and then also be okay tapping into the masculine energy and just go back to last week's episode and realize if you got stuck in one of those energies, pick the gas pedal off the floor, unstick it from your cyber truck and, you know, shift gears a little bit. Lesley Logan 0:23  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host and life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the transformative convo I had with Mary McMonagle in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that episode, feel free to go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us. Or you should just listen to this one and then like roll right into the next one. You could add it to your queue. There's different ways to listen to podcast. So thank you for being here. Brad Crowell 1:25  Queue it up. Lesley Logan 1:26  Today is May 16th 2024. And it is Global Accessibility Awareness Day. So this day is a focus on accessibility and Global Accessibility Awareness is celebrated every third Thursday in May. This year, it takes place on May 16th. People are encouraged to discuss, debate and educate themselves on access issues on Global Accessibility Awareness Day. You know, I'm just going to add to this. It doesn't have to be digital. Make yourself aware of things that like would be inaccessible to a lot of people. We were in Nashville and I noticed there are no sidewalks in most of the neighborhoods. I'm like what if someone is in a wheelchair? How are they getting around in this neighborhood? They're not. They're not. You couldn't even walk. And then we were in Mexico. And I was like, how? How is this person going on this sidewalk? So like just you know, different things. Also shout out to Jane Fonda. Who was like doing activism for blind people. I think it's blind people might have been deaf people. No, no, it was deaf people. She learned sign language so she can accept an award in sign language. So she's freaking awesome. I'm not saying you have to go learn sign language, although that does feel like a really cool skill set to have. But just you know, make yourself aware of accessibility issues that could be where you are we can affect places that we are available at and around is a key event that spotlights digital accessibility and inclusion for persons with disabilities to raise awareness and inspire action. Increasing the usability and accessibility of digital products like websites, mobile applications and other online tools is important as everyone needs to have access to the same information no matter what their design disabilities may be. So you know, if you have a website, it's you got to do all the things, guys. You got to, there's an ADA compliance in the United States. And if you are in a different country, it's probably called something else. So figure out what that is. But yeah, I just think it's really cool to just think about because we don't think about things that don't affect us. So try it sometime. It makes you feel like you're part of a bigger community.Brad Crowell 3:18  It's true. Let's get into here's what's coming out.Lesley Logan 3:22  What's coming out, babe? You take it. Brad Crowell 3:23  Okay, okay. Next up is OPC Summer Camp. Y'all were really, really fired up about this. June 1 and 2 join us live for the party. We are going back to camp and it's going to be the best one because you don't have to get dirty. You don't have to use the buddy system to go to the bathhouse you don't have to worry about creaky cabins. You don't have to worry about terrible food. No mosquito bites. No one's going to try to drown you in the lake. Lesley Logan 3:49  Brad and I are your camp directors. Brad Crowell 3:51  Yeah, there's nobody accidentally archery practicing like shooting at kids. You're good. Lesley Logan 3:57  Yeah, we are the camp directors and you have 14 camp counselors. Well, 13 because I'm one of them. Brad Crowell 4:02  Because we're gonna be on Camp Zoom, y'all. Lesley Logan 4:04  Yeah, Camp Zoom. And if you are not catching the vibe of what we're throwing down, think Wet Hot American Summer y'all like it is but without the sexual innuendo jokes. At any rate, we are having a great time. We have seven classes and seven workshops over two days. It is done live but there will be replays in perpetuity for those who purchased them. So if you cannot join us live, you are going to miss out on Camp Zoom, but you are still going to be able to be part of summer camp in a way that you never ever could before because you know if you, in camps, usually you have to be there. Brad Crowell 4:38  And speaking about making accessible. Our whole goal with this was to put you all who are probably, many of you are probably way into Pilates because obviously that's most of the community that we speak to but we're putting a bunch of classes and workshops in for people who might not be Pilates diehards, right, but this will be a really appealing topic to them such as. Lesley Logan 5:01  Every single class and workshop is meant for whether you're a Pilates lover or a Pilates teacher so, because everybody is a Pilates practitioner. Yeah, so the topics include pelvic floor, knee pain, hypermobility, breast cancer survivor. We have endurance athlete workouts. We have a happy hip workout. I'm super excited about we have a workshop on modifications for the Wunda chair if you have back issues, we have Rachel Piper's doing the long stretch series. We've got Control Your Balance on the Mat. So many. Oh, Tammy is helping us build strength on the reformer.Brad Crowell 5:37  Love it.Lesley Logan 5:38  So many I mean.Brad Crowell 5:39  And we have a happy hour. So if they don't want to do anything else tell them to come to the happy hour. Lesley Logan 5:43  So tower power happy hour's Liza (inaudible). It's a class. She said bring your, bring your own bubbles and so I'm sure she means she's doing sparkling water but that one you'll actually like feel you're laughing the whole time. Like Lisa just makes me laugh. So at any rate, come. Come, sign up. Brad Crowell 6:01  So go to opc.me/events, opc.me/events.Lesley Logan 6:04  And you can buy ala cart or you can buy the day pass. Savings is at the day pass but get it while it's on Early Bird, guys.Brad Crowell 6:10  Do it, do it, do it. All right, next up, we got Cambodia. We are going back again to Cambodia. We've been talking about it this trip, this year for our 2024. But guess what? This year is sold out. What? So we decided to add early next year, February 2025. We're going to be going it's also another amazing time of the year this is actually the two times a year that we historically had gone until COVID really jacked everything up. But we would go in Feb and we would go the end of the year.Lesley Logan 6:38  Except for that time we did March and it was really hot and it was right before the pandemic so we were alone in the country. It was amazing.Brad Crowell 6:45  That's true. But, go to lesleylogan.co/retreats with an 'S' to get on the waitlist. We may actually be on early bird right now as you're listening to this. So when you sign up for that waitlist we'll send you an email right away telling you hey, actually, it's open check it out. But, lesleylogan.co/retreats.Lesley Logan 7:03  And the OPC Summer Tour is around the corner you know.Brad Crowell 7:07  Yes, not to be confused with Summer Camp. Lesley Logan 7:09  No, these are two different things. Brad Crowell 7:10  This is Summer Tour. Lesley Logan 7:10  Summer Camp, you join us on Zoom. Summer Tour, we're coming to you.Brad Crowell 7:13  We're coming to you.Lesley Logan 7:14  And our headline sponsor is Balanced Body again. So lots of good things are coming from that. Brad Crowell 7:19  Yeah, it's gonna be great. Lesley Logan 7:20  So you want to go opc.me/tour so that you can find out what stops we're going to and I'm just saying if it's under four-hour drive, you should do it and we did have people who did six hours just to come to class so just. We definitely did and it was a party. No pressure. Brad Crowell 7:32  We had a really good time. And okay, next up. Y'all know how much time and energy I have spent trying to write all these damn flashcards for the barrels? Lesley Logan 7:40  Zero for me, but for me, we're over 400 hours. So you want to go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist this might be the last chance to get on that waitlist to get the presale price. We areBrad Crowell 7:50  We may be in presale for this right now as well. Lesley Logan 7:52  Yeah and it's a short window. So opc.me/flashcardwaitlist for the barrels flashcards.Brad Crowell 7:58  If you missed the barrels window, just add yourself to, we still have one more deck coming up next year. Lesley Logan 8:03  Yeah, so just add yourself to the waitlist anyways, for that. I'm not telling you the thing that we gotBrad Crowell 8:07  Next up we got eLevate. So Lesley is going to be doing eLevate round five in 2025. Right? So we're going to be figuring all that out and doing enrollment and everything this summer. But if you've ever wanted to know all the things that Lesley has learned from her teacher, Jay, who was a student of Joseph Pilates, this is where Lesley gets to actually pass on all this information. It is a nine-month program. It is incredible the transformation (inaudible).Lesley Logan 8:34  And when you graduate, you still chat with me, I actually tell a few girls today about some stuff that's going on in theirBrad Crowell 8:39  There's a thriving alumni community. But the transformation for you as someone who was like already teaching Pilates is you will be connecting the dots on all the pieces of equipment. You will be understanding the Pilates method at a higher level. You will be confident when you meet a client that you don't have to spend an hour preparing for them before you teach them, right? You'll be able to look at their body and understand this is what they need to get them to the goals that they have, right, and it takes away all the class planning time. It's just been amazing for me to hear all the feedback from everyone who's gone through it. And then really what isanother incredible thing is you're building new relationships with amazing women all around the world that are gonna last you for a lifetime. Right? It has been so fun for us to see people partner up, go through this program together. And then they're besties it's like, you know, like how often does that happen?Lesley Logan 9:36  Heather and Christine actually teach each other every single week. Every single week. Brad Crowell 9:40  Yeah. Amazing. So go to lesleylogan.co/ew that's for eLevate waitlist. E-WLesley Logan 9:48  We'll be opening up the application this summer for 2025. So and it's limited. I only take 12 people in a group. Brad Crowell 9:54  That's right. All right. Lesley Logan 9:56  All right. Before I go into Mary's amazingness Do we have an audience question?Brad Crowell 10:00  Yes, we sure do. This is from Prada. Lesley Logan 10:03  Prada and Pilates, Brad. Brad Crowell 10:05  Oh, Prada and Pilates. Yeah, I thought it was Pilates IG. Yeah. Prada and Pilates from Instagram. When is your next in-person event, Dear Lesley?Lesley Logan 10:16  So it's going to be the Summer Tour. Yeah, that's our next in-person. And then there's a winter tour. And in between there's a retreat. But if you didn't, if you're not signed up for that, you can't sign up for that yet it's in February. So yeah.Brad Crowell 10:30  Yeah. Sorry you missed it. No, so Summer Tour is going to be in August. Winter Tour is gonna be in December. Summer Tour, we're going through the Midwest. Like we said, winter tour we're probably going to do.Lesley Logan 10:39  We're doing a lot, everything but the West Coast. Brad Crowell 10:41  Yeah, we're going all the way up. We make all the way to Maine, y'all. Working it out, working it out. Lesley Logan 10:46  You're asking because I don't do a lot of in-persons anymore. And I just had someone asked me when I'm gonna come to Greece and teach. So here's the deal if you were wanting me to come somewhere to teach, and you do not live in the continental United States, where I can put it on a tour. I don't know. Because I'm not doing a lot of in-person pop ups all over the place. Unless I can actually connect a bunch of cities at one time. To be honest, I love going in and teaching around the world. Like I'm so blessed and honored that I get to do that. But pre-COVID, every month, every two weeks, I was flying to a different country. I like I literally went to Spain, came home for five days and then went to the UK. That's stupid. It was amazing. But it was crazy. And I'm 41. And I love where I live. And so I want to come and see you. But I have to put things together so that Brad and I can like make the most of a 12-hour flight, make the most of an 18-hour flight. And so if you want me to come where you are, let me know. And what we'll do is we'll gather up all of you I'm gonna come to a similar area, and we'll figure out a way to make a European tour or Canadian Tour or Australian tour. It's definitely that I want to do it. I just also want to honor my family and my dogs and my business. It's whenever we leave, the whole business actually like stops and they, our team makes things go but like, it's really hard. Brad Crowell 12:11  So get yourself on a waitlist of ours, right? Lesley Logan 12:14  Lastly, I just want to say, it would be weird of me to coach you on being it until you see it and having boundaries and taking care of yourself first if I didn't do it first. So this is not, I don't like you or I don't want to. I absolutely want to. I want to make it work for everybody. Brad Crowell 12:28  It's not you. It's me. Lesley Logan 12:29  It really is. And it's, it sounds cliche, those people, you know, people fuck that up in the dating world. It is okay for it to be you. It is okay for it to be me. And it's okay for us to figure out a way to make it work together. So thank you for this question. I hope to see you on Summer Tour.Brad Crowell 12:42  Yeah, go to opc.me/tour. All right, now let's talk about Mary McMonagle. Mary is a New Jersey-based intuitive healer and feminine energy coach specializing in guiding high-achieving women from masculine-driven control to a life lead with heart and vulnerability. Founder of True Tribe and host of the Living Your True Vibe Podcast, Mary empowers women to lead with their feminine energy, ensuring they remain grounded, yet flow effortlessly to achieve their aspirations.Lesley Logan 13:15  Yeah, I'm actually going to have an episode on her podcast that should be coming out at the same time that this one is.Brad Crowell 13:21  Oh cool. Lesley Logan 13:21  Yeah, it's really cool. We had a really great conversation, I really enjoyed the questions she asked. So she's, she's a cool chick. And she's done some amazing things. And she shares a lot of vulnerability. So I love that. She, one of the things I liked that she said, it's so important to really look at your values and ask yourself are you being that. And I think a lot of times when we're really frustrated with ourselves, we're outside of our values, we are not in alignment with our values. And that is when things can get a little frustrating. And when we are within our values were aligned with our values, it makes it so much easier to talk ourselves off a cliff. We're like, Oh, my God, I didn't do the thing over there. It's like, well, if it's not aligned with your values, so you didn't do it. So you can actually just live confidently in that. And I think, I think a lot of ways to actually have confidence is going back to last week's episode for a second is, knowing what your values are. And if you don't know what they are, it's really hard to be in alignment with them. So homework, if you don't know your values is to do them. And if you came on the business retreat we did this year, you got your values, and it was so fun to see those girls get their values. And so at any rate, I thoroughly agree with that. So yeah, I thought that was really fun. What about you? Brad Crowell 14:27  Yeah. Well, before we even go into that, this has been a couple times that we've had this idea of feminine versus masculine energy on the podcast, and Lesley Logan 14:38  Oh yeah, people love episode 346. Shout out to Cassie. Brad Crowell 14:41  They did. Well, you know, when I heard this again, I was like, huh, we're going to talk through this again. And I thought it was interesting to hear her talk about the benefits of feminine energy versus just feminine versus masculine. The way that I imagined feminine energy is it's not, it's not a good thing. It's not a win. It's not a positive, right? And she she kind of broke down the misconceptions, the preconceptions that we have, between the two, the two things and why you would want to incorporate feminine energy in. And not only that, that bringing feminine energy into your world does not mean that you still can't be a badass, you still can't be a supermom still can't be, you know, taking names. It's just a different approach. And I thought it was, I thought it was revealing, I thought it was really helpful for me to kind of understand that a little bit better. So I appreciated that. One of the things that I loved, she said, we figure out what our values are by identifying what we don't want. You know, like, if you feel stuck, when someone's like, what do you want to be when you grow up? You're like, I don't know. But I definitely don't want to be this other thing over here. That's a great place to get started. You might not know what you want. But you probably can say, well, I definitely know what I don't want. And so if you're ever feeling stuck, you can flip it on its head and ask that question of like, what's the opposite here? Maybe I can identify what I don't want. And that can help me slowly piece together this bigger vision for my life? Lesley Logan 16:22  Yeah, I think we've had that same sentiment come up before in the podcast on different things. That's like, Who do you want to be? It's like, Who don't you want to be? What do you want? Sometimes it's hard for us to envision, like, I think the other day you mentioned, like, what do you want, and you're like sleep. And it's a little weird that that's the first thing that comes up. It's like, for me, it's a G Wagen. Clearly, but sometimes we don't know what we want to get, we get so out of alignment, that it's going to take us a while we have to start with what we don't want to help us envision that. I want to just highlight like, I just want to go back to the feminine/masculine energy. I think society will say that being in your feminine is a negative thing. So I just want to clarify that you, Brad don't think that the feminine energy is a negative thing. But like that, the people will say, oh, like because people will think that you have it's weaker or like it's wrong to show your feelings. Brad Crowell 17:12  Yeah, there are negative connotations associated with it. And no, I don't think I mean, you know, that, that having feminine energy or focusing on feminine energy is bad. And I alsoLesley Logan 17:23  I think, because it's like a superpower to be a vulnerable person who can also receive, receive support, receive love receive?Brad Crowell 17:30  Well, also from Kelli Adame what she was talking about with it, is that there are times when men are also employing feminine energy. Right? And that is also a positive thing. Lesley Logan 17:40  Because we have both energies inside of us. Brad Crowell 17:42  Yes, yes. We're not one or the other. Lesley Logan 17:44  Yes. And, and so.Brad Crowell 17:46  But again, that's a preconception. Lesley Logan 17:47  Yeah. And I, 100% what I would say is see your feminine energy as a superpower. And be okay being in it. And then also be okay, tapping into the masculine energy. And just like, go back to last week's episode. And realize, if you got stuck in one of those energies, pick the gas pedal off the floor, unstick it from your cyber truck, and, you know, shift gears a little bit, you know, we're allowed to flow between the two in your day.Brad Crowell 18:16  Well, that takes you right back to the second part of what I wanted to talk about, which is, you know, just, it is important to identify if you if you're feeling stuck identifying what you do want, then maybe you can employ identifying what you don't want, but you don't wanna get stuck in what you don't want. Right? The idea is that planning negativity, and that whole energy is it's easy to tap into that and then we we end up staying in that. So don't do that. Okay. Lesley Logan 18:45  Don't do that. Brad Crowell 18:45  This, this is what I don't want. But it's going to help me identify what I do. Lesley Logan 18:50  Yeah, I love it. All right, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. Because I took over Brad's role, hahaha.Brad Crowell 18:56  What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items, can we take away from your convo with Mary McMonagle? She said, do something you are avoiding. She talks about how like something that you might be craving, somehow you could also be avoiding that. Be specific. When I think of something I'm avoiding, it actually causes stress, like in my gut, in my heart right inside of my chest, actually. And because I know I should be doing the thing, but I just don't want to do it. Right? Whatever the thing might be. And that could be you know, it's probably not like tackling a project in the shed that doesn't really matter. It doesn't really affect things, but what it could be is, you know, booking a doctor's appointment, you know, because whatever reason, it's just the last thing on my list that never gets done. Right? And I'm not craving booking my doctor's appointment, but it is something that I might have been avoiding. Right? So the idea is ultimately be specific. You know, you don't want to say I want to be better at you know, I guess what you could say is I want to be better at community right? So if you want to be better at community, that's not specific enough. You want to say, alright, what are some things that I could do to further that? Right? So maybe it's I'm going to text a person, what to think about them. And that could be as simple as that. And it just takes two seconds of like, hey, I'm thinking about you hope you're well, right kind of a thing. But that's being specific that will help you in your overall journey of, you know, working on community.Lesley Logan 20:25  Yeah, I think I really enjoyed that. Like, I think it's a really good place to start. Okay. Brad Crowell 20:32  What about you?Lesley Logan 20:32  So she brought up the masculine and feminine energy for Be It Action Items. I mean, she was like, a way to start shifting into your feminine is to examine your masculine first, and we have another mirror, be it, which is really funny that these are two happening two weeks in a row. But this one is to examine three areas in your life, love, career and friendships, and start to think about your Brad Crowell 20:51  Love, career and friendships. Lesley Logan 20:53  Yeah, love, career and friendships, sort of think about your beliefs that are around feminine energy. Two, is to focus on what will be your values around feminine energy, meaning what foot the focus on the being. And then three, let go of the title, mom, business owner, etc. and ask, what is that vibrational frequency? And are you allowing yourself to receive that first and so there's a lot here to unpack. To me, I think it's going to take some time. But I think if you actually I'm gonna bring in Norda Kaiser's amazing little are you a star athlete or are you a fan? And so if you look at love, and you ask yourself, am I star athlete or am I a fan? Here's how do you know. A star athlete would actually look at the areas that they did really well and examine how they did that. And then they would look at the areas where they didn't feel they did well and then they would go and do practice to get stronger at that. A fan is who are, oh they missed that. Super judgmental, super excited about things when they go well, but if they don't go well, they're like, he missed that. And it's very judgy. And so just notice where you are judging yourself in the love, career and friendships and shift into being that star athlete. And that is going to actually, when you put yourself in that place, yes, it can be more masculine the way to think about taking action, but the way to actually take the action is to receive, receive feedback and support and be in a more feminine space to actually get into being an observation and not being like super judgy. So that's just that's just a way that I interpreted how to like, examine those two, those three areas. And then I loved, I really loved the part where it's like the vibrational frequency because we when we put titles like mom, entrepreneur, you know, different titles, wife, we actually often put definitions that we didn't actually take the time to create. And we put, we use the title has different definitions that the world has told us what a mom is, you know, if somebody's friends who like Brad Crowell 22:53  Let's break this down, I'm a little stuck on this concept of a vibrational frequency. Ask what is that vibrational frequency? I don't know what that means. Lesley Logan 23:00  Yeah. So okay. The way I understood it, the way I'm taking it is, it's a be it till you see it kind of thing. How do you want to feel, what is the energy you're going to bring to the title before you put the title in front of it. So if you are a mom, there's all this mom guilt that's going the fuck around. And it's like, as soon as you're, as soon as the baby is born and they hand you the baby and a load of mom guilt. And it's kind of crazy to me, because like, who is actually doing that? Who is actually putting the guilt on you? Right? Those people shouldn't be your friends. But if you were to take mom away, and you ask yourself, Who do I want to be in this role? And how does that, what is that frequency? So going back to Gay Hendricks because we talked about frequency with him, fear and excitement are on the same frequency. It's just that like, you actually are going from worry to joy. So if you actually can think about like, some feelings have a lower vibration, right? A lower like negative, like heavy, some things have a higher vibration. That doesn't mean you need a high vibration all the time and low, like high and low don't mean bad or good. But like, what, how do you want to feel? What is the energy you want to bring to the role that you're doing? And then you can actually put yourself in that position versus if you put the title on it sometimes we put that title comes with the definition and it comes with expectations that are not the same as what you would bring to that. So that would be the more masculine energy around like trying to be what the, what society tells you a mom is or business owner is versus like how you want to have, how you want to be at that moment and then that could allow you to be in a feminine energy around that thing or masculine depending on what you want to do. It's complicated. Lesley Logan 24:45  Well, that was just a lot. I mean, definitely little more clarity on that. Just over here trying to define woowoo words. Brad Crowell 24:54  Well, I appreciate it. Lesley Logan 24:55  Everything has a frequency, though. Brad Crowell 24:57  It does. Lesley Logan 24:57  Yeah, and that's why I like, also, you know. Brad Crowell 25:01  That you were talking about your feeling, you were talking about with the dog today when you were out. Like my own response to some people versus others. Don't even pay them any money. Lesley Logan 25:10  Oh, yeah, like this one woman, we were standing in line, and there's one right behind us. And he didn't even like go to her and another woman got in line and he went right up to her. And she was like, ready to receive him. Like, just like, how does he know that she's a dog person, right? So we all are putting these frequencies out. Also, you got to notice like, sometimes if I'm in a low vibration, I am aware because I, you start to respond differently to me. And vice versa. Sometimes I've had to say, you need to leave the room because your vibrate., your energy is changing the vibe.Lesley Logan 25:42  Yeah, we also associate this with charisma. Yes, yes. Brad Crowell 25:47  Yeah. Totally. Lesley Logan 25:48  I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 25:49  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 25:49  Thank you so much for listening to this episode today. How are you going to use these tips in your life we want to know. Make sure you tag the Be It Pod. Share this with a friend. That's how the podcast grows is if you share it with a friend. We, podcast need reviews and listeners. That is currency for us. Brad Crowell 26:02  So dial up your frequency and get it out there. Lesley Logan 26:04  Yeah, you'll have to step into your masculine to send it out but then let your friends be in the feminine and receive. Boom, there it is.Brad Crowell 26:11  Solve the world's problems.Lesley Logan 26:12  Right there. Have an amazing day and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 26:16  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 26:18  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day.  Lesley Logan 26:45  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 27:00  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 27:05  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 27:10  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 27:17  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 27:20  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time. Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Discover your body's hidden language of movement as Kris Harris and a panel of experts unravel the mysteries of proprioception, your internal GPS for movement and balance. We navigate through a series of Pilates exercises, shedding light on how they fine-tune your body's ability to sense its position, motion, and equilibrium. You'll learn how the Pilates method, with its emphasis on core strength, balance, and coordination, can amplify proprioceptive feedback, equipping you with the tools for improved stability and a heightened sense of physical awareness. Whether you're taking your first step into Pilates or looking to deepen your practice, our conversation promises insights to elevate your body's conversation with itself.Embark on a journey with us as we explore the transformative synergy of Pilates equipment and your proprioceptive senses. Delve into the world of spine fitters, mini balls, and oeuvres, and discover how these tools not only support your body but also enhance your sensory experience, leading to a more precise and mindful workout. Through the teachings of Joseph Pilates, we underscore the power of quality over quantity in exercise, advocating for a holistic approach to fitness that encompasses mind, body, and spirit. Join us for an episode that not only strengthens your body but also enriches your mind and balance, unlocking the full potential of your Pilates journey.Support the Show.https://www.kore-fit.comhttps://www.korecandlecompany.com

In this special episode of the Pilates Lounge, host Katie Crane sits down with a remarkable guest, Mary Bowen, a 95-year-old Pilates practitioner and one of the last recognized Pilates elders. Instead of a traditional interview format, Mary requests a casual conversation, leading to an intimate and engaging exchange. Mary shares her journey into Pilates, sparked by a newspaper article in 1959 that depicted Joseph Pilates as a strong lion, which resonated with her back troubles. She became a student of Joseph and Clara Pilates, eventually becoming an instructor after a decade of dedicated practice. Despite initially pursuing an entertainment career and later psychoanalysis, Mary's passion for Pilates never waned. At the age of 40, she began her Pilates journey, eventually blending her expertise in psychoanalysis with Pilates to offer a unique service she calls "Pilates and psych." Reflecting on her early encounters learning Pilates from Joe and Clara Pilates, Mary delves into the ethos of self-discovery and personal evolution. Exploring various psychological typologies and their correlation with the mind and body, she advocates for embracing individuality and creativity within Pilates practice. Emphasizing personalized instruction and self-exploration in Pilates, Mary advocates for each individual to forge their distinct path in the discipline, with creativity as the cornerstone. She delves into the diverse psychological typologies and their intersection with Pilates, urging instructors to observe and empower their clients to discover their unique journey. Mary envisions a future for Pilates where individuals continue to embark on self-discovery and growth, steering clear of a one-size-fits-all approach. Key Points of the Episode: Working from home during the pandemic allowed Mary to continue teaching and connecting with her clients. Mary combines her expertise in Pilates and psychology to provide a holistic approach to her teaching. Dreams are a valuable tool for self-discovery and learning from the unconscious. Each individual has their own unique typology and should embrace their creativity in their Pilates practice. Individualized teaching and self-discovery are essential in Pilates. Creativity is key in developing a unique approach to the practice. Observation and listening are important skills for teachers to help clients find their own way. The typographies of the psyche (thinking, feeling, sensing, intuiting) play a role in how individuals approach Pilates. The future of Pilates lies in the exploration and development of each individual's unique path. Join us in embracing a holistic approach to self-discovery and growth with Pilates! Inspired by the wisdom of 95-year-old instructor Mary Bowen, we're advocating for a personalized journey in Pilates, where creativity flourishes and individuality shines.   During this episode, we learned the power of combining Pilates with psychology, unlocking a deeper understanding of ourselves through movement and introspection. Now, it's time to take action! Don't forget to check out my website thepilatesprofessional.com.au for workshops and my six-month reformer teacher training mentor program. I believe that reformer training is a crucial missing link in our industry, and I'm here to provide comprehensive and recognized training for aspiring reformer instructors. Thank you for joining me in The Pilates Lounge. I'm Katie Crane, your Pilates professional, and I'll see you in the next episode! Take advantage of your gift! Claim it now here: https://www.thepilatesprofessional.com.au/free-gift   Subscribe to our biweekly Pilates Muse newsletter for exclusive updates. https://www.thepilatesprofessional.com.au/the-pilates-muse-publication

In the early 1960's, Joseph and Clara Pilates welcomed an assistant named, Lawrence Hayward into their lives.  Lawrence spent so much time with Joe and Clara, documenting Joe's work that he eventually moved in with them, spending a great deal of time in the Contrology studio. On this first episode of Season 6, we'll hear new compelling information about Joe's Contrology system that will make us scratch our heads and think, there's way more to this Contrology story than most of us have been told. Lawerence himself can't be here to talk about this part of the Contrology story and so, I've asked Dale Matzkow who was a student and close friend of Lawrence's to share with us his story.About Darien Gold ~  https://www.dariengold.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/darien_gold_pilates_expertFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/dariengoldMusic credits ~ Instagram: @theotherjohnmayer Email: mayerranchrecordings@gmail.comAbout Dale Matzkow ~ https://www.purepilatesnyc.com https://www.lawrencehaywardcontrology.comSupport the show

Ever wondered about the enigmatic figure whose fitness philosophy we all adore? This episode is an is an enlightening exploration into Joseph Pilates, the flawed yet visionary human behind our beloved exercise system. We start with an intimate look at his personal battles, from childhood ailments to the relentless pursuit of physical excellence. His story is not just one of overcoming adversity but also of strict principles and mysterious personal history. We shed light on elements often left in the shadows, like his internment during WWI, where he developed the foundational exercises of Contrology that evolved into today's Pilates, and the stories and legends we have been told.Get ready to unravel the intricate tapestry of Pilates' life, including the pivotal role women of color played in his legacy, being the only two individuals he personally certified. We stroll through his New York days, where alongside his partner Clara, they cultivated an unconventional gym environment. We take a candid look at his business acumen, or lack thereof, his unique teaching style, and the controversies that arose regarding his behavior and the non-trademarking of his name. This chapter paints a complete picture of a man whose influence on the dance and celebrity communities was as profound as it was complicated.As we wind down, we will talk about the reverberations of the Pilates trademark dispute and what it means for the divide between classical and contemporary Pilates. I share my personal evolution of the practice into what I call  Sensulates, which honors the essence of Pilates while fostering a liberating approach to movement. This isn't just about fitness; it's about a holistic experience that can enhance one's quality of life, including their sex life. Through personal stories and testimonials, we delve into how embracing this method opens doors to a world of intuitive movement and wellbeing. Join me in this transformational journey, where we honor the past and celebrate the future of movement.Plus a closing tangent for my fellow hyper focused, neurodivergent friends at the end on my latest obsessions: color theory, and kibbe. Click here to sign up for a 7 day free trial of RPS. Click here to download my free cycle syncing guide. Get my free props guide here. Connect with Ruth on Instagram & TikTok.Don't forget, you're a BAD B! Stand SO tall & proud.Music: OH YEAHMusician: Philip E Morris

Joseph Pilates described the movement practice as the complete coordination of mind, body and soul. Some might call this "flow." Learn about how mind-body connection is used in a variety of movement modalities and how you might develop more "flow" in your own practice and life. The post Flow appeared first on Mindful Movement with Naya.

In conversation with Ashley Black, Lesley uncovers the world of fascia therapy. They discuss how Ashley's personal health challenges led to her creating a groundbreaking tool called FasciaBlaster and her dedication to educating others. Listeners will learn about the importance of fascia in overall health, and gain valuable insights into Ashley's unique perspective on balancing scientific research with entrepreneurship.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Ashley Black's journey from battling arthritis to becoming fascia health pioneer.How Ashley's FasciaBlaster revolutionizes connective tissue treatment.The balance of running a business while maintaining scientific integrity.Fascia's critical role in overall health and Ashley's approach to effective treatment.Ashley's strategic expansion and focus on educating people in fascia therapy.Episode References/Links:Ashley Black InstagramAshley Black FacebookUse this link to get 40% off our FasciaBlaster® fascia regenerating kitAshley Black WebsiteAshley Black Blog PostsBill KazmaierBE…: From Passion and Purpose to Product and ProsperityGuest Bio:I own an international company specializing in the health of the human connective tissue, fascia with over 30 years experience in fascia therapy. I invented the FasciaBlaster tools for regenerating this system of the body and have sold $170MM. I was the first person to do a TED talk about fascia, the first person to have a #1 Best Selling book about fascia and the first to publish peer reviewed science showing in ultrasound imaging to regenerate the fascia.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Ashley Black 0:00  I don't care if I have to, like take an umbrella and, you know hook you in with something that resonates with wherever you are in that moment. You know once that they are in I'm gonna have time you know to kind of let the story unfold.Lesley Logan 0:19  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:01  You guys, welcome to the Be It Pod and pinch me. I'm so fricking blessed. I'm so honored, I'm so inspired. This interview is just, as a female business owner, you don't often meet people who are like in the thick of it, who are willing to share the journey and be honest and open. And then also be supportive as fuck. And I say that because our guest today is this person. This is and we have Ashley Black on the Ashley Black experience, and the blasters, fasciablasters, I have several tools and I'm going to buy them all. Lesley Logan 1:41  I wanted to bring her on because her personality, what I saw on videos and what I saw her tools doing that could change your life, not just what the aesthetic part, but also like, I know what fascia can do in the body. And like having tools to take away pains, aches, and imbalances, it literally is what helps you be it till you see it, right? Like if you have any pain in your body, if you've got something that is distracting you from your dream, it's going to hold you back and so wanted to have her on for so many reasons. And then I met her and like honored is an understatement. She's just the fucking coolest. And she's so open and honest. And I think it's really, really important to highlight and high five and share when there are female business owners out there that are not only there to help the people that they made their product for, but they're willing to also support the other women who are in aligned businesses. And so I'm so grateful for this connection, for this episode. We've got some amazing stuff coming up. I'm working on a special thing for you guys, for the Ashley Black products. So we'll make sure somewhere in this episode, we'll add all those links in so you'll have that as well. And then make sure you're following me because I'll have those if you're really, really interested in it, and you don't know where to find it or you didn't understand the ad for it then just DM me and I'll get it to you but you are going to love her. You're gonna love this episode. And by the way, you know, I love the Be It Action as always, but like, it's very rare that someone actually does all four and she did all four and get your pen and paper out. It's gonna be amazing. So here is Ashley Black. Lesley Logan 3:25  All right, Be It babe. I'm gonna fangirl a little bit only just because I just discovered this. I don't know where I've been. I've been under a rock. But today's guest blows my mind. She's incredible. I've watched more videos of her than any person I've ever interviewed before. And so we've Ashley Black of Ashley Black Experience here. Can you tell everyone who you are and why you're so amazing?Ashley Black 3:47  Well, thank you for that. I'm gonna fangirl out on you because I don't listen to anyone's podcasts. I'm a very busy woman and I also hate technology. And I love your show. I love what you're doing. So thank you for having me. I think it's a great fit.Ashley Black 4:03  The short of it is that my name is Ashley Black and I invented some tools called the Fasciablaster. If you wiki me I'm best known for that. Although obviously there's a huge story behind that you don't just roll out of bed and invent tools and then become an author.Lesley Logan 4:26  You don't just like it doesn't like it's not out of a box like this is the box. Ashley Black 4:31  (Inaudible) and you're just instantly a millionaire. Lesley Logan 4:33  Yeah. And the tools they don't take any time at all to create I mean. Ashley Black 4:40  (Inaudible) in 30 years, I'm an incredible overnight success. Lesley Logan 4:45  That likeLesley Logan 4:46  Thank you for saying that because I think even when I was looking at your stuff, I was like oh my God, like I like how did she do this so fast? And it's like, hold that. It's been decades. It's not you know, we just make up stories when we see people so yeah. Can we talk a little bit about how it got started? Lesley Logan 5:03  Yeah.Ashley Black 5:04  Yeah. So all of this that I do now for a living is based around kind of my entire life, just struggling to be healthy. I was born with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis. So you know, when you're born was something you don't know any different. But I have to tell you, I do feel like my soul came into this existence kind of a fighter and like questioning things, you know, because even as a little kid, my parents would tell me, I would just tell them, I'm not doing that.Ashley Black 5:41  So, I, you know, this is the 70s. So I was being raised when everybody was doing anti-inflammatories, gold shots, they always wanted to take my blood. So I think that a lot of what I do, and I do consider myself holistic health, I do consider myself woowoo. But I'm also still mainstream, but I think that kind of like, maybe there's a better way, in terms of health comes from being a child, and beginning to question the medical institution, my parents and everybody else at a very young age. So that's how it all really started. I also, you know, most children with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis do not become junior Olympic gymnast. And, you know, I was on the dance team in my college and, you know, just became very athletic and became obsessed with fitness kind of in my 20s. I was like one of the first people ever to teach Pilates when no one knew whatever it was and do step aerobics, or things that were like my hobby, right? But it did set the stage for everything that I'm doing now.Lesley Logan 6:54  Thank you for for sharing that. Because I, it's interesting. They'll say, like, when you were a child, like there was a lot of things about you that made you who you are today. And like, obviously, like, I can't imagine being a child with juvenile, like that just doesn't, like kids are supposed to be able to run and play and fall off trees. Like, I feel like, it definitely feels like it brought the rebel in you like, you're not going to tell me what my body can and can't do. And I feel like that definitely had to put you on the path because you have always be seeking out like, how can I do this thing that they think I can't do?Ashley Black 7:25  Totally. And I mean, it definitely extended into kind of being a teenager and working in health clubs. And I'm from Alabama. So I went to this very unique place at a unique point in time, which was called Kaz Gym, it was Bill Kazmaier, who now is very famous for being a strong man. So even when I was in my early 20s, I was being exposed to people who were leveraging fascia for strength, although we didn't know it. So that teased, it kind of teased things up to where I am now. And you know, if anybody says, what is it that you do, I would just say that I'm a healer. But the way that I am a healer is by a very unique understanding of fascia and having that very unique understanding for a very long time. And then developing products around it. And then, you know, when those get in the market, you can refine the products and all that kind of stuff. So, to flashboard the story really what happened was, so it was just my destiny. I don't know how else to say it, when everybody says, tell me your business plan on like, my business plan would never work for anybody but me. Right?Ashley Black 8:40  So when I was 29, I had kind of my second crushing blow health-wise, where I got this bone infection. And, you know, just kind of think mad cow disease meets bone cancer, because it was in my spine, which means it gets into the nervous system. And it almost killed me, I had a true two times cardiac on the table. But the beautiful part of that is that I had a near-death experience. And if you've ever talked to anybody with an ND they come back with this kind of interesting understanding of why they're back. You know, and so for me 100% you know, I don't feel like this is my career. I feel like this is what I was brought back here for which makes it fun and passion. Lesley Logan 9:33  And also I just want like, I laugh when you said like, what's your business plan because I, I resonate with like, I kind of fell into every, every business I have, just like kind of fell into it. I'm like, okay, how do we make this work? But I also think like, having that ND, it kind of the things that would hold a normal, normal person, a person who didn't have ND back, don't because you're like, well, this I'm not going to die from this so you can I don't know, I don't know if that's an actual mindset from you. But like, you kind of don't let the normal obstacles and business or going after your dream stop you. You know, that's how I would imagine. Ashley Black 10:09  The first thing people with NDs and it's funny that you say normal people because I do have a term where I'm like they're a normie. I'm definitely not a normie. But it is a perspective that you learn that first of all, we don't die. So the fear of that is, you know, is removed and yeah, it definitely gives you like, a little bit more of a fierceness. But I think you still have to step into that fierceness. So for me, you know, when I came out of the near-death experience, I had three children under the age of four. Okay. I was a full-on crippled, I, it took almost two years for me to really learn to walk. And I decided to get a divorce. That was a little bit part of the ND for me, too. It's like, my life is different now you did different (inaudible). And you know, so when anyone ever says, well, you know, you blah, blah, blah, this or that. I'm like, look, you can't be in a worse position to start a business than what I was in. But what really started happening for me is I already had all of that knowledge about, you know, from being a personal trainer and fitness instructor. So I knew a lot about anatomy and how the body worked. But no one had ever said anything about fascia. Or, you know, this is kind of really before massage even became a thing. So this was when I was like, 30. So we're still talking 20 years ago. So. Lesley Logan 11:49  I mean, I remember I went to I was in college, I guess I've been like, 2002, 2003 When I was in, like, pre-med class, and we had, there was a body there, like at my college that I could like, look at inside. And I remember them saying like, the fascia, this is something we just like kind of throw of. Ashley Black 12:09  (Inaudible) taking my mind. I discovered it, that's exactly what happened. I went and took a dissection course. And I, you know, I'm a big person that is a big believer that like everything in the universe, and in my yard and in my body was put there, right, it's part of the whole thing. And when I saw that dissection, they were literally like, we're just gonna move this, you know, white tissue away, it's called fascia. And I'm like, move it away. It's the whole damn body. What are you talking about? Like, I don't even I see. You cut it open. And it is this fascia everywhere. So for me, I was trying to heal my hip. So my that is where my fascination is best.Lesley Logan 13:04  That's a great word, your fascia-nation.Ashley Black 13:06  (Inaudible) and you know, there was nothing this is right when Google and everything was kind of starting to come out. But I remember having papers from Chinese institutions, because they study it more. Translate it. And when I say that, I was obsessed. I was staying up all night reading these papers, I couldn't believe that I was learning this and you go through that whole thing like, there's no way I'm the only person in America that knows this and why doesn't my doctor know? And I went through years of that before I finally said, okay, you know what, you're the fascia person. You go learn, you go do it, you figure it out. And by that time I had fixed myself now, we didn't have the Fasciabuster tools, which are wonderful. But girl, I would grab anything from the kitchen. My (inaudible) hey, pull this, you know, but what I understood was that to restore my hip, I needed to look at my knee, I needed to look at my ankle, I needed to look at my ribs, I needed to look at the other side of my body, you know, and when you start to get a picture of this fascia thing, then you're really off to the races. And for me, I went from never hearing what fascia was to treating myself to being flown all over the country to treat Leonardo DiCaprio and Yankees players. It was that sick, but it was literally like I slipped through the fascia wormhole. And I was doing what no one else could it you know? Lesley Logan 14:39  Yeah, I mean, like, it's, I can I'm like, I'm a visual person. Like, I play people's stories like a movie in my head. And I'm picturing like, you going am I the only person in this country that is studying this? And it's like, because we always think there must be someone else. You know, the way that they Ashley Black 14:55  Oh I went to so many courses (inaudible).Lesley Logan 14:58  That's not it. I'm the only person who gets this. (Inaudible)Ashley Black 15:02  It's actually weird and sort of lonely place and I feel fortunate that I just like you were saying, fell into your career, I really fell in early on like working with, like really successful people and celebrities and athletes and things like that. And they do have a different mentality. I'll tell them this quick story, then we can move on, but, Someillan, who's an incredible producer, basically has produced everybody and I was working on all the artists down at the Miami hip factory. And he and I just became friends and he was wonderful. And I would always be like, I want to do this and then I want to do this and I want to do this and he said, Ashley, he's like, the minute you stop saying I want to do and you just start doing it you're gonna be a lot happier. And that was like okay, step in, step into your your power. Right?Lesley Logan 15:57  Yeah, I'd say that's the be it till you see it. I mean, like that's the thing like that's why I created this the title because I was like, people would ask me how do you do this thing? Like, I was not the first person to ever do some of the things I was doing but the way I was doing my industry and teaching Pilates and I'm like, I'm like, how am I doing it? Oh, I'm just doing, I'm just doing it. I'm doing a lot scared. But no one can see on the outside because you don't want people to know you're scared and you don't think you know what you're doing. But I, you know, you got, you got to do it. I love I love that it was Sembalun.Ashley Black 16:27  You know what's funny? I (inaudible) through his voice like, he was like, Ash, what are you doing? What are you talking about? Like, just do it.Lesley Logan 16:36  Okay, so, um, I want to, I want to obviously talk about your journey, your career, but I do want to just go back to the fascia for like, obviously, there's the misconception, we just throw it on the floor when we're, you know, opening bodies up. What are some other misconceptions about fascia that people have, like people are thinking about incorrectly that could be affecting their lives negatively? Ashley Black 16:58  Oh, my gosh, I think the first thing is, you know, when someone has commercial success, and I'm talking about myself around this keyword fascia, you're gonna get bandwagoners, you know, and so if you go on Google right now and just type in what is fascia and hit images, you're gonna see people foam rolling, you're gonna see Theraguns, you know, you're gonna see this expert was featured, you know, and she's doing some stretching, you know, when I look at that, and I'm just like, wow, we're so far off of it. And I blame it on the products people. Like, yeah, foam rolling is amazing, but target muscles, and, uh, you know, and Theragun is amazing, but, you know, target for pain relief, or, you know, whatever. So the biggest misconception, you know, even if you go straight to Google, and you type in what is fascia, they start talking about how it's a sheet over a muscle. So then people have just run with that. And I think that's where the foam rolling came thing came from. But fascia is completely different than that. So let's just first talk about that it has different states, you know how water can be steam and water can be ice, but it's still H2O, right? So fascia doesn't float out of our body like steam and it doesn't become quite as hard as ice, but it has that spectrum. So it can go from very thick and fibrous to kind of like a gelatinous more viscous all the way to liquid, right? So imagine if you were looking at me, and I was just one big Jell-O liquid fibrous, one continuous thing, right? Like a Jell-O mold. And just like you have Jell-O and you can put fruit in it now just go stick my brain in that stick my eyes stick my skeleton and whatever. So when we think about the human body, it literally, the fascia, literally surrounds every single one of our trillion and something cells. And I have to tell you, I would even argue that it's inside the cells. I just created this whole scientific theorem last year. But just for the sake of this conversation, it's literally everywhere in the body. It surrounds every single cell. Anytime we're talking about communication, cell, cell, brain cell, neurons don't touch, it's all going through the fascia. Fascia is what feeds our cells. So it is way beyond like the thing that makes us tight that we need to foam roll. Lesley Logan 19:42  You had a video that I was, I was bingeing where you took a bunch of red straws, and they were still in like their paper or plastic like surrounding and the way you were showing how the fascia surrounds and I was like, that is not how I picture that. I've always pictured like on the surface and that's it. And like when you did that was like, oh, that makes I mean, because it's not I'm not someone who's ever studied it deeply. I've studied very, very deeply in my world of Pilates. But like, where a lot of people who study fascia go, oh, I love how this exercise hits this fascia. I'm like, great, wonderful. I'm so grateful, too, but the way I love when I stumble upon something awesome, but like, the way I was like, oh, that makes so much sense because and then you talk about your hip, and then like, what's going on my knee? What's going on with my ribs? That's the thing that people don't understand is when I have clients Ashley Black 20:36  Or what's going on with my digestion because of my hip replacement. Like, I gotta get it out of orthopedics and into literally every field of medicine and also spirituality, because that's where it belongs. Lesley Logan 20:52  Yes, yes. I think like, when I because I would have clients and that you know, everything we like happen on this, right? So I'm like, yeah, what is okay, that yes, you have imbalances? And yes, I can work on that muscularly. But something is going on on a level that is, this workout isn't going to cure. You need and like, I can only like I wish, I wish 15 years ago, I had discovered you I probably could have done a different job there. But I think it's so interesting. How slow we have become to understanding fascia and likeAshley Black 21:25  I am (inaudible) so I took one of the original Pilates certifications way back in the day when it was only offered in New York and San Francisco, I went to 12 classes studied under Elizabeth Larkam. She's amazing. Incredible moves like a okay, so it is so crazy, because I was just starting to learn this. And I remember asking her and I said, you know, I've designed this I was using the reformer. And I kind of wanted to like take it to her because she was my idol at the time and be like, Oh, look at all this stuff. And she you know what she told me? She was like, you know, this is my place in the universe. But I'm happy for you. Is that crazy? I didn't have that memory until we just said it.Lesley Logan 22:08  So I think part of it is like part of me is like, oh my gosh, Elizabeth Larkam is so amazing. But also another part of me is like, what a gift she gave you. Like she didn't take it for herself and like, let youAshley Black 22:20  (Inaudible) a whole thing and probably fasciablasting would have been part of Polestar if they still exist or Balanced Body or whatever.Lesley Logan 22:28  Yeah, I mean, but like what a what a gift that she gave like she and she didn't deny it from you. She just said that I'm really happy for it. That's, that's so cool. I love when I hear women say something nice. (Inaudible) because I know what it's like, especially in that industry, there are some people that are like they feel larger than life like they've been in the industry so long. You're like, what do you think? And like she could have if she had said something negative, it might have been too much for you to handle at that new confidence in what you're doing (inaudible). She also didn't go oh, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna put this on my thing. She gave you the permission to do it. I think that's cool.Ashley Black 23:10  100%. 100%. And it's beautiful. Like I certainly don't think I'm the first or even the best. Like there have been many that have gone before and even Joseph Pilates if he didn't know it, he could feel it. Because so many of Pilates movements and designs you are leveraging lines of tension of fascia, but I think that's where like, it's weird, because I feel like the like fitness people have been the ones to sort of gravitate to the fascia, but then kind of keep it in, in the fitness realm. You know, when I read anyone else's research or even look at what people are posting online, I'm like, yeah, man. yeah, as long as it's about what fascia is, you know, there's some people discovering the quantum nature of it. There's some amazing people, you know, that are out there doing, you know, training programs and things like that. But when it comes to like, how do you treat it? Yeah, like how do you treat it and restore it to its native or best possible state? And that's when it's like, okay, there's everybody else and then there's the direction that I'm going, right, a little right across the (inaudible) a few modalities, you know, but at the end of the day, I if, you know, the fascia people have kind of been the nastiest to me, and I think that a little bit of it is that word blaster like they, you know, as if you're like, using a gun and shooting it up, like Star Wars or something.Lesley Logan 24:50  You know what's so funny? My husband is like, I think that blaster is such a great marketing word glad for her because it's like you're basted. He's like, he was just like, way into it, but I doAshley Black 25:01  (Inaudible) I hope he becomes a blaster vader.Lesley Logan 25:05  Oh my God, he will listen to this and I'm gonna I can't even watch his face when he hears it. Isn't that weird how like, it's like some of the people in our own world can be the meanest and the cruelest. And they can't see that, like what you're doing, like, maybe don't like that word. But also that word is something that helps people understand. Like, that's a word that regular people can understand.Ashley Black 25:29  (Inaudible) incredibly complex. You know, like, I, again, I've had 30 years of studying this. It is very complex, right? So what I tried to do was, you know, I did almost 15 years of clinical work before I decided to bring it mainstream. And I wasn't, I haven't had to create the whole industry in terms of mainstream-ness, right? So that means I've got to let you know, number one, that you have fascia, right, and number two, that you should treat it, and then number three, this is how you treat it. And so there, I just think that there's that that disconnect. I also think, you know, at the end of the day, people can be jealous of success, and whatnot. But at the end of the day, for me, not I am literally like water off a duck's back, I really could not care less, I know what my direction and my purposes, you know, but I really, ultimately would love to have all of the fascia people come across the fence, we certainly have had lots of them. The reality is, is that I am the only person in the history of fascia to ever be able to throw up ultrasounds and say, this is what fascia looked like before my tools and my method and this is what it looked like after and it go from the state that everybody knows is bad, which is thick, dry, tangled, and then the, the unorganized pattern of it almost like a, like a spider that makes a web with some sort of problem, right? To this very soft, hydrated, supple. These are all things we can see on the ultrasound. So if anybody questions, the work at this point, I'm so glad I spent half of my retirement, you know, hiring an amazing research lab to do these studies because it's like game set match. Lesley Logan 27:32  Yeah. That's so cool that you I mean, like, it's really cool that you did that. Because I you know, when my friends told me about you, I looked at stuff and I'm like, okay, I'm in products I've been in, I've been doing business long enough. I know how the ads work. I know all the things. And it was when I saw not, not just before and afterwards, I saw like the actual site like you had, I was like, oh, she spent money to have third parties not financially investedAshley Black 28:03  I love this course of action that we're on right now. Because it's, it's so true. You know, my study was $2 million. And you can certainly question well, she did her own study, but I didn't do my own study. And I can tell you this, I don't see the National Institute of Health or any grant writers being like, let me study your product. Okay. It just doesn't happen. I'm not a pharmaceutical. Yeah, you know, and no one's going to benefit but me. But I went and hired the Applied Science Performance Institute. And they did the study, blinded. All I did was the actual you know, design of the protocols. So I met the participants and I taught them how to do it. And I worked with them on what I wanted to measure. So we did DEXA scans, which is really, really cool because you can see where fat is distributed and muscle. So we did the DEXA scans. And then we did the ultrasounds that we just talked about. And then we did a lot of blood markers and the blood markers were for the best possible things like pcp for collagen. We wanted to look at inflammation obviously being an arthritic that's a big deal for me. So we measured the C reactive protein. We looked at irisin, so irisin is associated with telomere length. So now we're talking about longevity. I wanted to look at all of those things. But I was completely hands-off. The researchers did it. They pulled all of the data and what somebody I don't think ever thinks about is what if I was wrong? You know?Lesley Logan 29:43  $2 million, and they're like, doesn't do any of the things you say. (Inaudible) heartbreaking.Ashley Black 29:49  I know and to be honest with you I was more than willing to take that risk because I already had it in the marketplace. We didn't need like studies for FDA clearance. And so I knew something was happening, you know, but I did want to make sure that it was safe. And I did want to make sure that when I would say, you know, I have a theory that this happens or whatever I wanted to be able to validate that, you know, so I think that anybody who really truly has a scientific mind, that's what you do, you throw it up to the data and whatever, you know, the data says, you know? I think sometimes when people see my products, you know, the ads sometimes resonate with people and sometimes don't. And I love that you said, you do love to the (inaudible), but then when you saw that science, you were like, yeah, you know, we put it all out there. But at the end of the day, you, if you're going to spend a lot of money on advertising, you need to get a return. And sometimes the information that I would prefer to be talking about like its fascia inside the mitochondria, it's mitochondria matrix, I think it is, isn't the kind of thing that sells the product. So there's always a balance between, you know, having to run your business and still maintain that scientific integrity. Lesley Logan 31:10  You know, just like my daily life right now, because I'm a Pilates instructor who was lucky enough, like I say, I fell into it, like one of my teachers who I studied with for many many years still say what he's still with Joseph Pilates. So like, I mean, as far as like, all the marketing goes, like I'm a second generation teacher, which means nothing to regular people means a lot to teachers. Like, I you know, all these things, and all I want is help people get off the ground, get off the toilet, like feel super strong. I know the Pilates changes are competent, I know that it changes how your stress levels, I know all these things, right? And because I won't do befor- after photos on looks, and because I won't talk about weight loss because by the way, exercise is not what weight loss is, guys, it's just not it's your microbiome, it's probably your fascia. It's a lot of like hormone stuff, but like, because I don't do that we don't sell as fast and I I can't lie to people like you, you want to do your marketing to be honest and true and to be safe. So you did all these things. And it's really hard, because your stuff, what probably makes it sell the most is like the getting rid of cellulite and getting rid of wrinkles and like that's like superficial to why you started it for. Ashley Black 32:25  First of all, none of that is my passion at all. I was not in the beauty industry. I've always been in the fascia industry, you know, but let me say something when one of my clients who was the first, she got one of the first batches of Fasciablasters. I had not seen her in two months. And I knew what she looked like before she walked in and her legs looked incredible. And she was like, Ashley, it's your tool. And then I was like, let me start doing this. But I will tell you, you know, we do a lot of surveying of our customers, and only about 50% come in for beauty. And then it's a mixed bag from pain. And then now there's a big new group of people that are like wanting to release traumas and things like that. But when we, so we surveyed them, we know a lot about that customer journey, by the time that they're in, 90% are not in for beauty anymore. So I don't care if I have to, like take an umbrella and, you know, hook you in with something that resonates with wherever you are in that moment. No, once that they are in. I'm gonna have time, you know, to kind of let the story unfold. Lesley Logan 33:45  That's cool. That's cool. I think that that's, it's honest and true. And also, like, I love that people are having that transformation. Like they're coming in. Some, not even all of them, but some of them are coming in for this Sedex but then they're realizing it could be life changing. You know, what I also love about it, is the amount of time someone has to spend with themselves. I think that's really cool. I don't think enough people spend time with themselves touching themselves. Ashley Black 34:09  People never touch themselves. Lesley Logan 34:11  Touch themselves. I know. I know. I will. I'll just list a lot of fun jokes, guys. I wanted a hobby. And so I wanted to feel like I could be like sexier, I don't feel like a graceful, sexy person. And so I was like, I'm gonna take a pole class because those girls, they're like, they're sexy, right? Like they. So I took this pole class and she just okay, and just like feel yourself I'm like, okay, but like, what do you want me to do with my hair? Like how? Like, (inaudible) because I do spend (inaudible). I know. So I was just like, okay, all right, like people are walking by this like store. I'm doing pole and I'm like, I'm just gonna feel myself in front of everybody.Ashley Black 34:52  A little crotch grab.Lesley Logan 34:55  Just so funny because it's like, I just think we don't and so I really love is like your tools can really give them like, help them prioritize themselves and being in their body. And it's, I mean, that's why I teach Pilates. And that's why I do it. But like, it's just another way for people to have time with themselves. And we just, we spend so much time like taking stuff in.Ashley Black 35:19  The just beauty of, you know, us being a part of this whole incredible world like we have, in this route, we have a physical body, like, how cool is that we get a body, you know. So that's kind of the way I see it. I know, I'm over the top person in a kind of free sort of way. But, you know, if you, I'll tell you a quick story, but it's to just punctuate what we're talking about is that I did a wefunder campaign, I had never, I've never taken outside investment. And so we raised $3 million, we did it with our own audience. And oh, I just got like a chill. When you read the comments of the people who invested, these are not professional investors, there were women that were like, you know, I saw your Facebook ad and then you know, I started blasting for my cellulite. And then you know, that went away. But then I started realizing how good that I felt. And then I started, you know, jumping into your new year, new year program, then they came to a retreat, and they're like, you know, this changed my life. And like, I only have $1,000 in savings, but I want to put it towards this. You know, so that's what it's about, that. That's what it's about. It's about women. Not all, I mean, we have a large portion of men, and we're doing more male marketing, but primarily the business has been women and when they come together, and we have a huge I think we have about 500,000 in a private group, I manage that thing like mama hen, you know, (inaudible) come in there and say anything mean, and support each other. Sometimes these physical things like people getting a nose job or whatever, sometimes it just makes space for something else to come in. Lesley Logan 37:12  Yeah. Yeah, I think like we had Dr. Celeste Holbrook and, and she talked about, like, you know, when people are making changes to their body, it's often because it's like a harm reduction like they believe it's like going to reduce whatever harm they could see. And I also she's like, so I don't want to take that away from people, but also puts them on a journey towards, like, usually discovering a little bit more in themselves. And if they find it, I think it's so cool for them to tell some people in a Facebook group and a mix. (Inaudible) That's bigger than most cities, actually. But like that they could that they believe in your product so much that they still I mean, like, creating a product is one thing everyone like we have our flashcards and people are like, oh my God, that's such a cute idea. I'm like, it's cute. Yeah, to you're in Alaska, that's not nearly an investment you probably will make on your stuff, but like, my first investment and it was $15,000 to make these decks and I was like, do I do I need to have 100 somebody people buy these before I even get my money back. Do I know 105 people? Am I blowing up all of our savings right now? And so to have a group of people who believe in what your products are doing and the researcher doing all this stuff, you're doing so much that they want, they want it to continue on? That's just a testament to like the impact that your products have on their life. That's, that's more than aesthetics. People don't do that just because they got rid of cellulite.Ashley Black 38:33  I got a marriage proposal for getting rid of cellulite. (Inaudible) Yeah, I think a lot of it just has to do with like the support and the fact that like if you get this is what I always tell people it's not about because people say love your body the way it is. I want you to love your body the way that it is, but I also like if you had a rash I wouldn't be like love your rash. I would be like let's get rid of that rash. You know, cellulite is a physical presentation of bad fascia. You know, so for me, I feel like it's a moral duty to say hey, no, don't accept that, you know, and sometimes have terrible fascia below the surface and you don't see any cellulite at all. Just depends on whether it goes down into the muscles. So for me, it's about healthy fascia. You know, and if it (inaudible), you know, people should do love to do our heart but and all of that, like I great. It's just a confidence booster and they're, they feel empowered because it was them that made the decision to do it. It was them that took the time and energy to do it. And they feel great about it and they're getting healthy and having benefits way beyond their kind of wildest dreams. It really is a little bit like a wormhole when you actually understand how to restore your fascia and I'm not talking about stretching it from time to time or being a hydrated person or, you know, all the stuff that's floating out there on the internet. I'm literally saying that you need an effective fascial treatment. I don't know how effective other methods are because there is no ultrasounds to show me. You know, if somebody came to me, cupping regenerated tissue, and by the way I sell cups, I like it, it's part of the system. But by themselves, I don't think they can regenerate the tissue. I'm open to be wrong, you know, but what I know 100% Does the entire fascia system is my tool. So of course, I'm gonna recommend my tools. (Inaudible) every single person, man, woman child, or whatever you identify with should absolutely this is like water, vegetables, I always say brush your hair, brush your teeth, brush your fascia.Lesley Logan 40:54  I love that. Okay. Gosh, I just want to ask like, you obviously, like are so excited and so pumped for what you do. Are you excited about anything new coming up? Like what's in store for you? Or fasciablasting? Is there anything that's like on, up and coming that you just like, can't wait to like, work on? Ashley Black 41:12  Oh, gosh, yes, there is. So it's so interesting. And you can appreciate this being a business woman. You know, for me, it was all about launching it. And you know, making it this huge success. But sometimes you don't go well okay, then what? You know. And so for me, we just crossed the 170 million mark in terms of our lifetime revenue. And so I had that moment like so is do I sell or do I like raise money and push the gas pedal. So I have chosen to raise money and push the gas pedal because we are launching this incredible kind of an extension of what we're doing. So last year, we launched the Fascia Advancement Academy where we teach people, you should come. Lesley Logan 42:02  I want to. I'm like tell me more.Ashley Black 42:07  It's so perfect for you know, people that teach Pilates and some it's an add-on you can do but we teach professionals, anyone that wants to do it professionally. And there's levels in the Fascia Advancement Academy. And then the actual business model would be to partner with businesses, high-end spas, sports clinics, pre and post-operative care, to insert these people who have been to our academy and then set up those retail locations. So don't be surprised when you walk in the Fontainebleau or the Four Seasons, when you see the Ashley Black towerLesley Logan 42:46  There is a Fontainebleau here in Las Vegas, my friend I think you should (inaudible).Ashley Black 42:51  I mean, we actually just trained I think it was November like think like 27 therapists and estheticians because it's also facials. I think this is a way to really, really get it to the public. And instead of having to see another ad. You can experience blasting by a professional who's trained that understands it, and you can take the tools home and continue the treatment.Lesley Logan 43:19  Oh my God. So I know because I saw somebody like getting blast I was like, Brad, look at this. Do you think you could do this to me?Ashley Black 43:29  It's totally my fantasy. In fact, if I went and open that door right now, my therapist is here. So you know people say do you get blasted? I'm like, absolutely (inaudible). Therapists can reach places you can't reach they can, you know, leverage differently. And if you've had somebody who's been through the academy, then they really understand, you know, which tools are for which depths and it's a whole different level of understanding. So I think it's gonna be huge, you know, (inaudible) we get to this point and think it was already huge, but like, let's do it.Lesley Logan 44:09  Oh my God. Ashley, this is amazing. I could talk to you for hours but we're I just I'm really excited thank you for educating us on really what fascia is and also like helping us understand like it's totally in our power our superpowers to like take care of our own fascia and we should. We're goint to take a brief break and then find out how people can find you, follow you, get blasted, and your Be It Action Items. Lesley Logan 44:32  All right, Ashley, where do you like to hang out? What social media should they follow? And where can they get your tools?Ashley Black 44:40  I mean, the easiest thing to spell is Ashley Black. Exactly (inaudible) can be spelled and then that can get you to the website. And at the website, obviously, there are icons but my Instagram handle is Ashley Black Guru. On Facebook, The Ashley Black Experience. But I do encourage everybody, if you're fascinated with fascia I just took live for blogs that are what is fascia. And as I kept writing, then I was like, oh my gosh, I'm gonna have to have a fit. But it's free information. You just go to my site, hit blogs and jump in there.Lesley Logan 45:18  Oh my God, we'll add that to all the links for sure. Because I think, I know, our listeners are gonna nerd out.Ashley Black 45:24  We can definitely do some kind of special for your listener. Lesley Logan 45:29  Yes. I'm gonna want to do that. Ashley Black 45:31  We'll talk about that. Lesley Logan 45:32  Yeah, we're gonna talk about that. Oh, my gosh, we're so y'all don't be surprised OPC if we make something happen for the community. So okay, Ashley, you've given us so many things that we could like, obviously take care of ourselves right now. But what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it? What are some action steps they can take?Ashley Black 45:54  Wow, it's so funny, because I didn't realize that Be It stood for anything until I got forms to fill out to be on the podcast. And I was like, oh my gosh, like this is everything I love. So I was just kind of thinking about what those words meant to me. And you know, bold, I think is that Someillan moment, just step in to your power, you have those little voices that come in from time to time and tell you who you are. Right? And once you know that, just unapologetically, without fear, step into that and just be it. You know, it's like the work of Joe Dispenza, where it's like, you know, if you were a millionaire, what would you do different, you would wear a different outfit, you would walk a little different way. Do that now. Do that now. So that's the bold. Intrinsic, I mean, I think at the end of the day, I believe this more than any plant on the planet, because of my near-death experience, like we are special, all of us are special. And we have something intrinsic to our nature and our authenticity. And if it's a gift that we have, and we don't share it, it's a wasted life, right? So I would definitely say, going on that self journey and creating this space to really discover who you are. I wrote a whole book about this actually, it's funny, it's called Be: From Passion and Purpose to Products and Prosperity. (inaudible) I kind of just did it on the side with two of my girlfriends. But, you know, we talk about like, how could you possibly discover who you are, if you're caught up in a bunch of bullshit all the time. And in the book, take people through activities, the first one is called delete. So that's gonna be my tip for your audiences go through literally for three days, write down every single thing that you do. And anything that does (inaudible) review, delete it, and just don't ever do it again. And you'll be surprised like, oh, I just got three extra hours in the day. So that's intrinsic. Lesley Logan 48:12  That's beautiful. Oh my God, that's beautiful. We're gonna put the book in the show notes too, with our readers. And I, I love that it's a similar title.Ashley Black 48:21  It's so funny. When I was writing it, I pictured it like, yeah, like, Family Feud. Lesley Logan 48:26  Yes, yes. I also thought you're gonna say like, delete the people in your life (inaudible).Ashley Black 48:32  That might be part of what was on that list? Right? Then I still want to go through these because I actually thought of it. Oh, executable. So when we think about the word execute, I think people take it from zero to 100. And they say, okay, you know, let me I use the word absolute (inaudible) it's not executable (inaudible). Zero to 100 in terms of execution, you know, it's like, should I take the $15,000 and go, you know, launch the business? Okay, well, that is execution. But it's also execution to say, you know what, tonight, I'm gonna go through my finances and just kind of see what I have. And it's also actionable to say, okay, do I have credit cards? Can you know, can we do this? It's also actionable and free to take a notepad out and start sketching out. You know, it's also to take the action, you know, to start to pick the colors, and you know, what is resonating with you and all that. So, it's not the action. It's the little actions, right? That's what I would say, whatever your major, major goal is. Just say look at it and go, oh, God, there's 2000 steps. Okay, we'll take the first three today or take (inaudible). Right? Because once you do it, and you can validate this because it happened to you. Once you do it, your confidence comes. (inaudible) Lesley Logan 50:00  Well also, it's like the moment of that, once you take the first step, because it's the hardest, or the first half a step, there is a little bit of push to pull that comes from you fall in your passion, it like pulls you, you know, so you don't have to keep finding the energy to take that next scary first step. They're like, things get put in place. And it's almost kind of a domino effect that makes it feel like it's too fast and too soon, but like, it does feel like there's a magnet (inaudible).Ashley Black 50:28  Actually we were talking about that the other day, it's like, when you have a business, you feel like you're pushing a wheelbarrow with, you know, rocks in it up a hill, but there is a tipping point. Then you're down the hill, and nothing's pulling you and your legs are flying. For me, I've done it so many times that I can almost sense when I'm at that, you know, tipping point. But you know, for the younger ladies out there are women who haven't done it yet. You know, it is there. It is, it's the laws of physics, you know, if we keep going, we're going to get to that place. Ashley Black 51:04  And then before I forget it, I think targeted goes back a little bit to what we were just talking about, it's like you have to, life is not linear, but it is entangled. And if what you say and think and take action on is not in alignment with whatever your target is, then you got to ask yourself that question. Like, am I moving backwards? Am I moving sideways? Is it out of here, and I'll give you just a perfect example, in my own life, because even in business, I get squirreled off, you know, somebody will tell me a great idea. And you know, I'll go focus on it, but then it's like, I'm off my target, even if it's the greatest thing in the world, you know, so I think what I would say first of all is find your target, find your Northstar, find the thing that truly, truly, truly makes you feel fulfilled. And then just make sure that everything that you're doing is on target literally, you know, getting wasted, and you get hung over for two days. That's what happens when you're my age. Isn't, doesn't move you in the direction of your target or, you know, having an old friendship that's become really stale and feels heavy when you are talking about but like that is the point where we can trim the fat you know, and make it a little bit easier to get to that target. Zig Ziglar said it's easier to get where you're going with a pack running with you than one wrapped around your neck.Lesley Logan 52:50  Yes. Oh my God. Ashley, this is so, you're so amazing. I love all of these. I I cannot wait. Brad's gonna listen to this and we're gonna choose our favorites but I don't know how to choose mine. I love them all. You guys, how are you gonna use these tips in your life? I want to make sure you tag Ashley Black, tag the Be It Pod, share this with a friend, share this with friends who need to hear it because it gets really easy to want people in our lives to grow as well but we hold all the growth to ourselves. So pass it along because maybe they need it for the fascia tips or maybe they need it for the inspiration of like sometimes it takes, it's an overnight success for 30 years.Ashley Black 53:31  Right. I'm exhausted from my overnight success.Lesley Logan 53:35  I just appreciate you being so honest, because I just it's so easy for people to think it happens overnight and must be nice. And you know what, guys, every single person out there you're looking up to I'm sure there's 20 years of like, or more of just them fighting uphill to make their magic happen and get their thing out into the world. And so thank you Ashley for being that example of what it can look like and for your amazing tools. I'm over here like nuggeting my (inaudible) I'm just like out here like tapping around. So thank you so much. We'll have all these links in the show notes. Make sure you tag with a friend, tag this, send it to a friend. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 54:20  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day.    Lesley Logan 54:47  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @Be It Pod.  Brad Crowell 55:02  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.  Lesley Logan 55:07  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 55:12  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist Gianfranco Cioffi.  Lesley Logan 55:19  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.  Brad Crowell 55:22  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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What is the purpose of doing Pilates? You may already have your own answer to this question, but there's lots of ways to answer it and lots of different lenses to look through. Tune in to hear about Joseph Pilates' goal of doing Pilates as well as how different schools of thought in Pilates approach the purpose of Pilates. I want to hear from you! Share your thoughts and follow the podcast on Instagram and Facebook @pilatesstudentsmanual. Full show notes and episode transcription can be found on the podcast website here: https://bit.ly/PilatesStudentsManual. Be sure to subscribe to the podcast for updates, and rate and review wherever you listen!  Episodes now available on YouTube: *https://bit.ly/YouTubePSM*Email pilatesstudentsmanual@oliviabioni.com with your feedback.Support the podcast:    Visit *links.oliviabioni.com/affiliates* and take advantage of some sweet deals on products I use and enjoy with my affiliate links!  Episode Music:This episode uses NCS music in compliance with https://ncs.io/usage-policyTrack: Syn Cole - Gizmo [NCS Release]Music provided by NoCopyrightSounds.Watch: https://youtu.be/pZzSq8WfsKoFree Download / Stream: http://ncs.io/GizmoTrack: Syn Cole - Feel Good [NCS Release]Music provided by NoCopyrightSounds.Watch: https://youtu.be/q1ULJ92aldEFree Download / Stream: http://ncs.io/feelgoodSupport the show

Have you heard of Pilates and you are wondering if it's right for you? Maybe you think it's yoga or  will be “too easy”. Tune in to hear Pilates Instructor Kate Boyle break down the differences between Pilates and other forms of exercise plus benefits that can be gained from practicing Pilates, whether you struggle with mobility or you're an experienced athlete. This week Jenn is joined by Pilates Instructor, Kate Boyle. With her extensive background in dance and learning how to heal her own injuries, Kate decided to use her knowledge to help others heal their bodies as well. Kate breaks down what Pilates is along with the different types of Pilates classes you may see advertised. She breaks down the science and methodologies behind Pilates, and emphasizes how it can help you in everyday life. Kate talks about the mind-body connection that she teaches her clients to focus on when practicing Pilates and how it is the foundation for everything else you do in life. Tune in to learn more and decide if Pilates is right for you! The Salad With a Side of Fries podcast is hosted by Jenn Trepeck, discussing wellness and weight loss for real life, clearing up the myths, misinformation, bad science & marketing surrounding our nutrition knowledge and the food industry. Let's dive into wellness and weight loss for real life, including drinking, eating out, and skipping the grocery store. IN THIS EPISODE: ● [5:22] How did Kate get into fitness and Pilates? ● [7:16] What is Pilates?● [9:33] What is true Pilates vs. what you might experience at a gym or hotel class?● [13:01] How can someone know that Pilates is the right fit for them?● [15:42] What information can people look for to know what to expect from a Pilates experience? ● [21:04] What does it mean to connect the breath to the movement and your core and pelvic floor?● [23:34] Where does the science come in and where does the methodology stem from for Pilates?● [25:26] Kate walks us through a way to connect to your core and pelvic floor. ● [28:45] How does Pilates help you in everyday life? ● [32:03] Why do you need a lower amount of reps during Pilates?● [35:16] Kate shares a story about how a client's Mind-Body Connection during Pilates spilled over into other areas of their life. KEY TAKEAWAYS: ● [22:38] The pelvic floor, the core, and the breath are all interconnected and essential for having everyday strength. ● [24:22] Pilates is great for everyone! No matter your age, there are benefits that you can get from practicing pilates and it can be customized to what it is you are needing. The intensity can be increased or decreased based on where a person is with their strength and individual needs. ● [36:49] Pilates is like the glue for everything else. It's the glue for everyday life, for the activities you want to do just to have fun, a way to excel and stay fit in the sports you are playing, manage stress, and more. It helps people physically and mentally. QUOTES: [6:03] “I'd torn the meniscus in my knee, I had hamstring injuries, back pain, all the dancer stuff, and I started to heal my own body from doing Pilates, and then went oh my goodness, this system is amazing. If I can heal myself, I can help others.” - Kate Boyle[14:00] “I'll get athletes that are wanting to cross train and really expand in their sport. Golf is a great example, it's all one sided, rotational to one side. So when we build up the strength and stabilization to the other side, they get more power, a better swing, and really excel in their game.” - Kate Boyle[14:53] “Even people where their mobility isn't as great anymore, and it might be as simple as trying to reach up to that top cupboard is getting really hard because they're getting really stiff through their shoulder, we can really work on that shoulder range and strength, so just everyday movements become easier.” - Kate Boyle[30:50] “You are learning how to move while being present with your body. So many other exercises we do, we'll jump up a treadmill, stick the headphones on or turn the TV on and start walking and running away and we're thinking about the shopping we've got to do and the kids we've got to pick up. In Pilates you can't do that because then you'll lose your breath or what your movement's doing, how many reps you've done, so it means for your workout, you actually have to be present in your body.” - Kate Boyle[32:25] “I think that's a different sort of mindset as well, so many other modalities were like no, no, no, you've got to do your 10 or your 20 and you've got to push through. Whereas Pilates is very much no, no, no, your body is telling you this is just too hard. Right now, we're going to start gripping the opposite muscles that shouldn't be activating, so we're going to hold our breath to get through, we're going to brace those abs. So rather than doing that, where we're not getting any benefits, take a short five second rest and then continue if you can.” - Kate Boyle "You can strengthen your body in a way that's both supportive and restorative." - Jenn TrepeckRESOURCES:Become A Member of Salad with a Side of FriesJenn's Free Menu PlanA Salad With a Side of FriesA Salad With A Side Of Fries MerchA Salad With a Side of Fries InstagramGUEST RESOURCESMind Movement Health WebsiteMind Movement Health FacebookMind Movement Health InstagramMind Movement Health LinkedInMind Movement Health YouTubeMind Movement Health Podcast GUEST BIO:Passionate about holistic health and great movement, Kate runs her online movement and health platform, Mind Movement Health. Having been an elite level dancer she gravitated to a career in health due to her love of movement and wanting to get a better understanding of nutrition to improve overall health and performance. She has extensive training and qualifications in Pilates and various other movement modalities including the Gyrotonic Expansion System© and Classical Ballet. A qualified Nutritionist and Food Scientist (BHSc.) Kate has worked within the health and nutrition field for more than 20 years and is passionate about helping everyone move well, eliminate pain, live a balanced life and make being healthy EASY.For more information and to check out her online Health and Movement Membership please head to www.MindMovementHealth.com.au 

Embark on a journey to physical and emotional liberation as we uncover the pivotal parts of the body that safeguard our deepest stresses and traumas. I, Jennifer Pilates, invite you to discover the transformative secrets of the pelvic floor, deep core, upper core, heart and shoulders, and head in a conversation that promises to enlighten and empower. You'll learn how these regions not only store tension but also serve as portals to greater vitality, revealing the unexpected link between breathwork and fat loss, and the restorative power of the root chakra.This episode is a treasure trove of insights on how modern lifestyles impede our posture and amplify stress, particularly in the neck and head, and how somatic exercises like Pilates Somatic Healing maintain the essential connection between mind, body, and spirit. As we explore the profound influence of emotional patterns on our heart and shoulders and the significance of the body's natural detox systems, you'll be inspired to embrace movement and breath as potent instruments for an invigorated life. Tune in and transform with every revelation, unlocking a path to holistic well-being that Joseph Pilates himself envisioned as ahead of its time.Activate your stem cells. Stem Cell Activation Patches. Experience a level of health and vitality that you have not experienced since you were in your youth. Visit: JenniferPilates.com The LifeWave X39™ is clinically proven to provide the body with a level of health and vitality that you have not experienced since you were in your youth. Head over to JenniferPilate.com to learn more.Support the showLet's Connect: JenniferPilates.comSubscribe: Newsletter Connect: Linkedin | Youtube Channel | Facebook | Instagram | PinterestShow Notes: https://jenniferpilates.com/podcast-1Donations: Thank You for Supporting the ShowWork with Jennifer Pilates: JenniferPilates.comJoin: Pilates On-Demand with Jennifer PilatesRead Jennifer's Book: The Change: Insights into Self EmpowermentJoin: Pilates Somatic Healing Program

Today I'm speaking with my friend, colleague and a beloved teacher of mine Maria Earle! Maria and I met a few years ago in Spain and I have been a regular in her virtual classes for teachers which are a wonderful supportive resource for any Pilates teachers out there!Maria is an expat living outside Barcelona Spain, she is a studio owner, internationally sought out guest teacher and a offers several advanced courses for teachers and movers both virtually an in-person in Spain. She is also a student of Kathy Grant, who was a direct student of Mr. Joseph Pilates. Today we talk about Kathy's legacy as the first Black female teacher in the Pilates lineage, and the strong lineage Kathy Grant created of her own.You can find Maria hereAnd you can take classes with her on Pilates Anytime here using her code EARLECheck out Maria's book club for movers, advanced movers live virtual class series and her graduate program! Learn more about Kathy Grant Here imagery from the episode art is from the Kathy Grant website Get full access to After Class with Cadence at cadencedubusbrooklynstrength.substack.com/subscribe

The evolution of something is often defined as distinguishable differences resulting from modifications in successive generations. When we examine the movement and methodology of various disciplines, especially those with a long history, they no longer resemble their original forms. Movement evolves with each retelling of the story. Pilates and its evolution is an important topic to discuss, for many reasons, especially because of the growingly heated and contentious climate between Pilates teachers and schools of thought in the Pilates world, particularly online. Today, we want to begin to explore the evolution of a movement form while remaining open to differences in opinion. If you want to talk to Hannah about this topic, be sure to reach out on social media or send her an email! Join the conversation as Hannah delves into a brief history of different movement disciplines and how things change with the telling of a new story. She highlights the inevitable factors that influence the way we move and shares candidly why gatekeeping in the Pilates world makes her furious. Hannah delves further and deeper into the need for evolution in movement, including why limiting movements ultimately hinders us and how adapting movements can still honour their origin. She also shares her thoughts on how the importance of focusing your training on the specific body in front of you, and why being aware of the functionality behind movements is also worth keeping in mind. For all this, and much more, join the Pilates Exchange conversation and start listening now! Key Points From This Episode:Hannah defines what she believes evolution (and as it relates to movement) is.A brief historical overview of different movement disciplines (yoga, ballet, Pilates, etc.).What Hannah wishes to impress upon listeners: things change with the telling of a new story.The different factors that inevitably influence our movement.Hannah highlights the significance of the lack of precision in the information received from Joseph Pilates regarding movements. Why gatekeeping in the Pilates world, in both movement and education, makes her furious. Hannah touches on avoiding the limiting of movement but still honouring the origin. Don't be afraid to teach Pilates; do what inspires you. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode:Anna Pavlova — https://www.britannica.com/biography/Anna-Pavlova Margot Fonteyn — https://www.britannica.com/biography/Margot-Fonteyn Adam McAtee on Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/adammcateepilates  Raphael Bender on Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/the_raphaelbender Free Ebook – 100 Pilates Class Themes: https://performance-fit-online.com/100-pilates-class-themesFree Ebook – Top Teaching Tips: https://performance-fit-online.com/top-teaching-tipsFree Creativity Masterclass: https://mailchi.mp/pilates-studio-nuernberg/creativity-masterclassTrain the Trainers: https://www.pilates-studio-nuernberg.com/train-the-trainers/Hannah Teutscher on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannah-teutscher/ 

On this episode of the podcast, we meet Megan Gelabert-McGee from Harmony Pilates. Megan comes from a professional dance background and heard about Pilates through her community while dancing for 2 professional companies in New York. She took a front desk job at a 2nd generation from Joseph Pilates studio. Many of the apprentices in the training program needed practice hours and this is where Megan started her introduction to Pilates. She began to notice not just the exercise component but an improved mental state and with her dance(i.e. balance). She completed her training from there about 20 years ago. "I like to see it as the body is an orchestra; you have all these different parts that hopefully will work in sync with each other, but if that violin player is a little out of tune, it throws the whole thing off." Pilates, originally named "Contrology" was created by a man named Joseph Pilates and is a sophisticated system of movement that can be done privately or in a group setting. It's made up of a series of movements on the machine(Reformer) or on the mat. Private sessions focus on the individual body and the instructor will create movement based on what they need taking into account injuries, medical issues, and lifestyle. It's made up of exercise, breath, and alignment catered to the person. Pilates use equipment like the Reformer to work on all of the areas of the body including the ranges of motion in the spine as well as the Cadillac and many different props. The spring resistance on the Reformer makes it safe for joints and bones by not forcing extra weigh on them that they aren't ready for. "The spring weight, for instance you are on your back, and you push into a bar, the spring causes tension when it opens but then it loses tension when it closes. So not only are you creating strength to press against the tension of the spring, you have to use so much control to contain the closing of the spring." Some of the benefits of Pilates in injury prevention, injury recovery, and to train safely with your body. It uses breath-work, intentional movement, strength, flexibility, coordination, and balance. Megan enjoys working with those who are curious about movement and their body. Sessions with her would start with a health and history form filled out ahead of time and possibly a no-charge consultation to acquaint yourself with the space and to meet in person. The first session will be a review of your health and history, Megan will take an assessment of your standing posture, and begin the movement practice. The first 3 sessions typically take trial and error to determine what feels right in your body. There are approximately 500 Pilates exercises so if one doesn't feel right, there are plenty others to try. Megan emphasizes that the body is always changing so there is always something to address and support. For her own self-care, Megan uses "Transcendental Meditation" where she works with a meditation instuctor and receives a mantra to practice 2x a day. She started this practice 14 years ago. She also utilizes EMDR(Eye-Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing) therapy. She wants to Heal Charlotte as she had a car accident in 2021 where she had multiple surgeries to reattach her hand and make it as functioning as possible. Her journey in regaining movement in her hand has helped deepen her passion for Pilates as well as acutely understanding medical trauma and having even more compassion for those who have gone through it. "My OTs and my Surgeon; they were over the moon, they couldn't believe the healing, they couldn't believe how far I'd come in terms of gaining all that movement back and I have nothing but Pilates, Yoga, and dance to credit that to." Her studio is located in Hart Witzen Gallery among local artists on the outskirts of the Noda area of town. You can get more information on her website, as well as her Facebook and Instagram pages.

Welcome to Breast Cancer Conversations, the podcast dedicated to empowering those affected by breast cancer. I'm your host, Laura Carfang, a breast cancer survivor and the founder of survivingbreastcancer.org. In this episode, we're diving into a topic that resonates with many in our community: the role of exercise, specifically Pilates, in regaining normalcy after a breast cancer diagnosis.Our guests today are Nina Prol, Bev Breen, and Marie McGuire, who share their insights and personal journeys with Pilates. Nina, a registered nurse with 30 years of experience in adult medical oncology, is also a passionate Pilates instructor. She shares how Pilates, originally developed by Joseph Pilates, is a low-impact exercise that enhances spine flexibility, posture, and core strength, making it ideal for cancer patients.Bev, an executive assistant and breast cancer survivor, recounts her experience with Pilates during her radiation treatment. Despite the challenges of treatment, Pilates provided her with a much-needed mental and physical break. Marie, another member of our community, emphasizes the importance of movement in managing lymphedema and maintaining overall well-being.Throughout the conversation, we discuss the benefits of Pilates for those undergoing cancer treatment, including improved sleep, reduced anxiety, and increased strength. We also touch on the importance of breathwork and mindfulness as tools for stress reduction.As a reminder, while exercise can be a powerful tool in recovery, it's crucial to listen to your healthcare provider's advice and communicate any side effects or concerns. We hope this episode inspires you to explore Pilates or other forms of exercise as part of your recovery journey. Topics Covered: 00:00:03 - Introduction to Breast Cancer Conversations Podcast00:02:12 - Discussing Exercise Post-Cancer Diagnosis00:04:09 - Nina's Introduction and Pilates Journey00:06:12 - Bev's Experience with Breast Cancer and Pilates00:09:42 - Marie's Breast Cancer Story and Pilates Experience00:14:18 - The Benefits of Pilates and Its Accessibility00:24:59 - Discovering Pilates Post-Diagnosis00:30:18 - The Mental Health Benefits of Pilates00:33:09 - Importance of Communication with Healthcare Providers00:35:38 - NCCN Guidelines and Empowering Patients00:37:44 - Questions to Ask Your Doctor+++++++++++++++++++++Attend a free virtual SurvivingBreastCancer.org event:https://www.survivingbreastcancer.org/events+++++++++++++++++++++SurvivingBreastCancer.org's  Mission: To empower those diagnosed with breast cancer and their families from day one and beyond. About SurvivingBreastCancer.org: SurvivingBreastCancer.org, Inc. (SBC) is a federally recognized 501(c)(3) non-profit virtual platform headquartered in Boston with a national and global reach. Through education, community, and resources, SurvivingBreastCancer.org supports women and men going through breast cancer. We provide a sanctuary of strength, compassion, and empowerment, where those diagnosed with cancer unite to share their stories, learn invaluable coping strategies to manage wellness and mental health, and find solace in the unbreakable bond that fuels hope, resilience, and the courage to conquer adversity.+++++++++++++++++++++Follow us on InstagramLaura and Will: https://www.instagram.com/laura_and_will/SurvivingBreastCancer.org: https://www.survivingbreastcancer.org/Support the show

Every new achievement comes with its set of challenges. Dive into a friendly chat with Michael and Lesley as they underscore the importance of developing skills and the impact of raising one's standards that can pave the way to unexpected personal and professional growth.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Michael's unique experiences that influenced his perspectives.The role of skills in aiding personal development.The disadvantage of dogmatic thinking on the path to self-discovery.The value of stepping out of routine to gain fresh perspectives.The transformative power of committing to personal aspirations.Episode References/Links:Follow Michael IGMichael's Think Unbroken WebsiteListen to the Think Unbroken PodcastGet the book, The Big Leap, by Gay HendricksGet the book, The Top Five Regrets of the Dying, by Bronnie WareGuest Bio:Michael Unbroken, Founder of Think Unbroken, is a best-selling author, speaker, podcast host, coach, and advocate for trauma survivors. From a challenging childhood marred by trauma and abuse, Michael spiraled into substance abuse and obesity. However, a pivotal moment in his mid-20s propelled him to rise from victimhood to become the hero of his own narrative. Since 2016, he has empowered over 100,000 survivors to transform their lives. With multiple books, including the best-seller "Think Unbroken: Understanding and Overcoming Childhood Trauma", speeches in 80 countries, and a collaboration with billionaire Grant Cardone, Michael aims to end generational trauma within his lifetime.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. Get your free Athletic Greens 1 year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 and 5 free travel packsGet your discount for some Toe Sox using the code: LESLEY Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesFollow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Michael Unbroken 0:00 Skills have utility. Most people do not have skills that actually matter. Right? That actually like you can be really good at video games. But like, how does that transition into? I'm not saying you can't be successful, like at playing video games? Because you certainly can. But like when you're trying to build something in your life, how do you leverage the skills that you have that you're really good at?Lesley Logan 0:24 Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. All right, Be It Babe, I am so excited because we have one of my dearest friends like, I probably like I feel like he's a brother from another mister and mother. But he's totally family to Brad and I, it's Michael Unbroken. And we've had him on the podcast before, in fact, one of your favorite podcasts to listen, we got so many reviews, I got so many DMs about that episode. And so I brought him back. And it's just really fun. Because he's a dear friend, we got to go really deep on some conversations and, and share some of our own things. So I hope that you enjoy hearing this conversation about integrity and goals and taking time for yourself and like your worth. We talked about a lot of things. And so I really hope you enjoy it. I also want to say that there are stories in our lives that can be triggering to some people. And so if that does happen just forward, you know, and please, you won't offend us, make sure you take care of yourself and honor that about you. But I do think it's important that you do hear about how Michael grew up, or how I've grown up, because it's so easy to look where we are right now. And think that we have it all together. And it's and it must be nice for us. And the truth is, is that like we've made decisions along the way, that put us in situations that we were in and got us out of situations we're in and also put us where we are today. And I really think it's important that you know that the grass isn't always greener on the other side it's probably Astroturf anyways, at this point, and also people's lives are from choices they made. And you might not know the whole story. But you are allowed to have what you want. You are allowed have the life that you want, you are worthy of those things. And I do hope that this conversation really does help you see that and helps you understand how people like us have made decisions and gotten where we are. And we hope that for you. So here is Michael Unbroken. All right, Michael, welcome back.Michael Unbroken 3:10 YoLesley Logan 3:10 I'm so excited you're here, in the flesh. Michael Unbroken 3:13 Real life.Lesley Logan 3:14 I know. I love. I love actually doing these in person. I know you do most of your interviews in person, but I actually think it's quite fun. And it's also not so nice. I have a friend who lives in Vegas come over to do this interview. You when we last had you on you were living in Denver. So what's new?Michael Unbroken 3:30 Well, I mean living here, kind of I guess quasi right. Being on the road all the time makes it feel very difficult. But I've just come to accept like, that's my reality. Like, I like being on the road. I mean, you get it right, because you're on the road all the time.Lesley Logan 3:45 Yeah, I think you I think, I don't know, I think you choose your choices. Like that's kind of my thing. So like, I don't want people like, oh my God, you're so busy. I'm like, I chose all these things. So like, I don't really feel comfortable. Like, I'm not gonna complain about it. Because if I complain, it means I want to change something. And if I don't change it, then I'm not gonna complain about it. Michael Unbroken 4:04 I watched, have you ever seen Up in the Air? That George Clooney movie? (inaudible) fires people. Yes, there's a scene where he's like in the lounge, taking out all the cards out of his wallet. He's got I got this card, and this card, and this rewards card and that card and I was just like, that's my life. And, and there's a scene where like, this new girl has come into the company, and they're gonna try to make everything virtual. This is like a road warrior. And he's like, I don't want to do that. And that's how I feel. Because I love I love the adventure. You know? And it's like, that's part of the choice that we make in everything. It's not that it's not difficult. I mean, there's sacrifices, right? Because it's like, if you want to go be this person, it hurts friendships, it hurts relationships, it hurts having a normal life, but also the ones that you have are better in this weird way, because you're actually like here. Lesley Logan 4:57 Yeah, I think first of all, I think it's like It really changed. You have to be more communicative with the people in your life like, this is the life I live in. This is how I can hang out with you. And this is how I can spend time with you. And when I'm with you, this is how I will show up, I promise. But it forces communication, and some people don't like it like, I, people in my family, you travel so much, you never see us. And it's like, well, it's so they never see you. It's just I don't see you as much as you probably would like, and that would make you feel comfortable. But we don't always get what we want. And as long as I'm like operating in integrity, and I'm communicative with you, I think we can make it work. But I also find that I have tried doing nothing we did in the pandemic like I did, I stood around here for two years and didn't really go a lot of places. And there was something nice about being home and having a routine. But I love it on the road. So I have tried to figure out like a balance, like I don't think I go on the road as much as you I'm like, one trip a month is plenty, two trips a month, I'm like it better, wherever I'm going, number two better be amazing.Michael Unbroken 6:12 Well, but also like, if you think about it, it's a choice, we've decided to do this, I decided that I'm going to be the one who gets on the plane and go to seven cities in a month and speak at all these events and blah, blah, blah. But at the same time, if you think about it, when we make intention, like we had lunch together two weeks ago or whatever, we we don't flake on each other. Like here it is like we're going to do this. And I think a lot of people don't take advantage of the time that they actually have with people. And they reschedule and they cancel. And they're like all do it this time. And then we'll see you next time. And you know, and people always will go, oh, it's not a big deal that you canceled on. And I'm like, actually, it's a freakin huge deal. Like you, you have to understand like time, time is the one variable we don't get more of. And so I'm like, if I make plans with my friends, you know this, I have guys' night, Brad comes to it, it's like I have all these different things in my life where it's like I try to build this framework of time knowing that it's really the only thing that because I can't get back it has to take precedent over everything. So I'm with you. I'm present with my friends I'm present, like I'm not in whatever other element of life I could be in in that moment. Lesley Logan 7:29 I love that you brought it up not flaking on each other because I I actually was looking back at our our text messages. And it was all I saw were like dates. Like we're like sending each other dates back and forth, to have an intentional opportunity to actually hang out.So I was looking back at our text message. And we were very intentional on dates, we sat and we've talked about a couple of our friends who will sort of flake out on things. And it's like, I just, I don't make plans with you. Yeah, it's really, and that's kind of, I think it's hard for a lot of people who are people pleasers, or like they want to be liked. And it's like, of course, I don't want people to hate me. But I also have to understand that if I'm set aside the precious time that I have in town to be with you or to be wherever I am, if I'm coming into your town, I'm going to be there. If I set that aside, it means I'm not doing something with anyone else, including I'm not doing anything for myself. I'm just doing something to hang out with you. So if you're going to flake, it happens, it's I'm not asking for perfection. But be honest. And really make sure you let me know as soon as possible. You know, I mean, it's not like we're perfect, but I do think the intention is there and when you do have to reschedule something, you know, being intentional about how you reschedule that not like, hey, let's reschedule for another day. It's like, okay, well, that's never gonna happen.Michael Unbroken 9:11 Like how integress are you? Right? Where's your level of integrity? That's what I think about with it. Because especially and like I get like not most people don't live lifestyles like us, right? And that's fine. And you don't have to like if you do the nine to five thing, cool. But like still, it's like, why are you flaking on your friends when this? Everything changed for me in like, I guess it was probably eight years ago now. Nine years ago. I got a text from one of my buddies and he's like, hey, Wasn't this your friend? And he sends me a link to an online news article. My childhood best friend Seth, this guy that I did everything with from the time that we were like 11 years old. Have I told you this story? So Seth and I grew up very very similar circumstances his dad was this crazy alcoholic. His mom was working like three jobs. We both go to the same elementary school, we go to the same high school for a period of time, we both played football together wrestled everything like we're best friends. Actually, the first tattoo I ever got was with him. We went and you know, this is 2004. We're dead broke, we have no money, he found a way to make money. And one day he calls me he's like, hey, you know, we can go make $150 if we sell our plasma? Yes, that's true. You can. So we went well. And this is, you know, 20-something years ago, where not only do we go sell the plasma once we do it like three times in one day.Lesley Logan 10:41 Can you sell that much? Michael Unbroken 10:42 No, of course not. But like everything was paper that it wasn't all digitized. So, we're gonna make all this money. And we go get these tattoos. So I have a matching tattoo with him. And he's working a job at this Johnny Rockets downtown Circle Center Mall, Indianapolis, flipping burgers, doing fries, whatever. I had just gotten a job at a Wendy's. And I was a general manager in training. So making 36 grand a year at 18 years old. Lesley Logan 11:09 That's millions of dollars for an 18-year-old.Michael Unbroken 11:13 Not only that, but if you look at 2004 that's probably 100 grand a year. Like it's real money. Yeah, I'm on my own. I have my own car, my own place, everything. And he's fucking flipping these burgers. And I'm like, dude, fuck that. Come work over here. I'll get you a job. Now I got him the interviewer he ends up getting himself the job. Well, three weeks into it. He just stops coming. And I would, think about that, I'm 18, I put my name on the line, I'm like, we're about to get a $500 bonus or whatever. And, and I come to find out, he's back at Johnny Rockets, fucking flipping burgers, making $4 an hour or whatever. I was irate. Like, you have no idea how mad I was. Now I look at it differently. I'm like, Well, we're on our own path. Like it's not up to me what he does. I stopped talking to him, replying to him, text messages, AIMs, you know, (inaudible) Myself, My Spaces, nothing and he would call me all the time for years. And nothing. I was so mad at this guy. And he was my best friend, he's like my brother. And I get this text from another mutual friend. I'm like 29-30 years old. And it's a link to a news article in the Indy Star, Indiannapolis man shot dead in his living room. Lesley Logan 12:36 Oh my God.Michael Unbroken 12:37 And somebody had walked into Seth's house, it's a bad drug deal gone bad. And just blew his fucking brains out. Close cast it whole nine. And it took I still don't know that. I'm entirely like through that. Yeah. But that moment shifted everything for me because I was like, I never get to apologize. I never get to fix this. I never get across this bridge. I never this friendship that meant more to me than anything. He was my brother. He was the person that was with me when I got kicked out of the house, when I got expelled from high school, the first time I ever had sex, like it was at his house like, it was like this whole thing. And because I felt my, the ego has such a need to be right, to be wrong, and to be offended. It was all of them. And it took away that relationship. And then my best friend Kevin got murdered. Neither one of my friends get and I was just like, man, like, you've got, your people have to be the most important thing. Because I never get to have that conversation with him. And so when like, I think about the times we schedule or my guys' night, which Brad comes to or when I'm on the road and I make the time, the same for you guys, you guys were on the road and made the time to come hang out with me in Denver. I'm like, I'm gonna show up. Because I don't know if I get tomorrow with you.Lesley Logan 14:00 Yeah, I all of that is really sad. And, and there's those moments that like, really teach us something, you know? And, you know, who knows? If you had answered an AIM, what would have been the change there, but I think, I think it's really important that you kind of we kind of understand ourselves a little bit more and those things, it's like, like, you get to go back and go, how would I wanted to handle that? And it doesn't mean it would have changed any other outcome. But maybe you would have been able to feel like at least I said, my thing because I think anyone listening be like, of course, I would not talk like you put your name on the line, even at 18, even at 40 like that stuff matters you know, so but I do agree. It's like, it's like how can how, what is integrity to us, like what feels integral and how to want to operate there and it doesn't always mean that it will be the right thing. Like, looking back you might be like I felt like it was an integrity then but that didn't go the way I expected it to go. But I think it's we have to have values. I think it goes back to that's one of the values that we have in our lives as for Brad and I, and then also in our business, it's like, if we say, We're gonna do something, and we can't do it, we have to communicate why we can't do it. Otherwise, we're out of integrity. And that, that makes people not trust you or not want to be around you or want not want to participate with you and I, and we all what is life if you don't have these relationships, whether they're in your town where you are or out in the world where you get to be like, I live for the cause I have my girlfriends who don't even live in this town with me. But they get what I do. They understand what I'm going through. And some days, I'm gonna go like yesterday, I had a girlfriend at a coffee date with a girlfriend. And it's been a few months since we talked and she was like, how are you doing? I said, well, to be honest, in this moment, not great. And if we hadn't set this up three months ago, I would still be in bed right now. Because I'm not having a good day. But we had this call. So I'm here and I'm just letting you know, I'm not my best. And she's like, Well, I'm not my best. Let's talk about what's going on. And then what do we each need. And that was such a great moment to have. And because of integrity, because I want to live my life. I showed up for that call. Michael Unbroken 16:00 Yeah, there's like three ways that I, three rules to life. And, and this is for me, and I try to like instill this in my clients. I look for this in my friendships and the people I date and potential relationships, business partnerships, everything. And it's like, number one, are you honest? Number two, do you show up? Even when you don't want to. Because you're like, Fuck, man, I'm no, I'm just having a day. Want to stay in bed, I'm gonna Netflix and chill, whatever, right? And then three is like execute. Do you actually follow through? Right? Because showing up is like being in the room. But executing is like I'm doing the thing. Because you see this you coach people, right? In business and in personal. Yes, people who like you lay out the game plan. And they're in it, and they're hyped up. And they're like, I'm gonna do everything. And then they go home and nothing is different. You know, and so I'm like, are you doing all three of those? And the reason why it's so important to me is like, I used to not do any of that. Like, I mean, you know, my story. People may have listened to me on here before, but it's like, and people who are listening to this on the other podcast, they know my story, like I was a piece of shit. Yeah, you know, when it's like, do you want to be that?Lesley Logan 17:07 Yeah, I think what I love is when I love that you share your story so much, because it allows people to see you can change, like, maybe you felt like you were a piece of shit back then. And like you've look what you've done with your life, and how you and how you're acting. And that execution is so hard. I actually have two calls tomorrow with people who are not executing what they signed up for. And they're not getting, they're seeing everyone in the group surpass them. And so now they're like, double downing on themselves and how not where they want to be. And like, there's a lot of judgment, there's a lot of things that they're saying, and it's like, I hear you like they are going further. And I understand that life is sucking right now. But you also still have to show up for yourself in some capacity. How do you like what are the ways that you help people kind of actually execute not just be in the room? Yeah,Michael Unbroken 17:55 I think well, you know, I try to lead first, right? So it's funny, I was just coaching a client driving over here. And it's like, even if I have to get in the car and drive half an hour to the other side of town, because I have a commitment which I then it's my bad because like, here's what's interesting in this space I'm in right now. Like I'm not a slave to time in the way I normally am, which I think is actually a good thing to be a student of your calendar. I'm just kind of like nonchalant about everything. And I was getting ready to head over here. I was like, oh, I have a coaching call right now. Which isn't the norm, right? But but it's about like, recognizing that you have to do the thing. Right. And sometimes it's like, yeah, make a small pivot. But what I'm always trying to get to, like, at the end of the day, like, if my head is on the pillow, did I do everything I said I was gonna do. And I don't allow myself to go to bed if I didn't. And that's like a consequence. And I think that we need to be able to give ourselves consequences for our lack of action. And I don't necessarily mean like consequences. It's pain, like you don't have to like self-flagellate. Right, but it's like, I'm not going to bed till I'm done. Lesley Logan 19:05 Yeah, I also think that helps you understand, like, how much you can actually promise that you'll do that day, because you're not gonna, you're not gonna want to (inaudible).Michael Unbroken 19:15 I was like, that's too much. Right. But it's all this is about know thyself. It's like, okay, so you're gonna have these coaching call clients tomorrow, like, what about them? Because in my mind, you say that to me, and I go, well, they're trapped. They're stuck in their own mindset, which can be easily solved by taking an action. Yeah. So what are you presenting today? Lesley Logan 19:35 Yeah, I mean, that's, that's what I'm thinking about today. And what I'm going to figure out in the meeting, because the actions that I gave them last time, I thought were so here's what I know as a habits coach, like trained with BJ Fogg. Like on calls. He is the behavior scientist from Stanford. He's the one every Habits book has copied. Michael Unbroken 19:55 Yeah, and you're about those habits too, because you'll text me at like 6:30 in the morning. You're like I'm on the mat. Lesley Logan 20:00 I know I'm like are you on your pet mat? So I, so here's what I know, the people that typically are attracted to the type of work that I do, they're typically perfectionist overachievers, and so they have a really hard time doing little. But what the science shows is that you do not create habits unless you actually achieve, you actually have to complete things, get tough wins, you have to celebrate, you have to be kind to yourself. And so if you are in a judgment shame zone, I promise you, you will never ever, ever create a habit around that thing because your brain's gonna be like, I don't want or that thing brings me shame, it makes me feel stressed, it doesn't make me feel good about myself. So I had thought that the five minutes of taking time for themselves was actionable. And now I think I need to get even more specific, I need them to get more specific with me with what those five minutes are gonna be or what that one is going to be because maybe five minutes to do anything for themselves is almost still too much. And that's okay, like, this is what's so important. I'm not gonna get mad at myself for I'm not gonna go Oh, that was done Lesley, didn't help them enough. It's like, every single person is different. For some people, they need the freedom of those five minutes being anything. And for some people, it needs to be very specific. These five minutes are for me to go for a walk. And it's important that people know themselves and you're not going to know yourself until you make it until you do it in a way it didn't work. Like that's just you won't know maybe, like, you know this about your business. Like, have you ever like done something your business at like, freakin like sores, and you're like, Wow, that was amazing. But then you got to redo it again, it doesn't have the same thing because like, you almost learn better when the idea fails, because you're like, Okay, we could have done that better. We could have done this better. Like when it wins the first time. You're not really sure what was the thing that was the best?Michael Unbroken 21:46 I think that's all life though. I mean, if I go track back everything I've ever done, it's always been like, sometimes things work really well. And sometimes they don't. And I think the hard part about it is like recognizing like it actually doesn't matter at the end of the day. What matters is like, are you still going forward? And I think that's where people get trapped. And so I have the benefit of my side of being a nihilist. Like I don't care about anything, which is really weird, right? There's a juxtaposition. Lesley Logan 22:14 So funny, because I think you would care so much. Michael Unbroken 22:16 Well, there's a juxtaposition I live my life in, right? So think about this. Name your great, great grandpa. Lesley Logan 22:23 OhMichael Unbroken 22:23 Exactly. Right. And so people always are talking about legacy. Like I'm gonna build a legacy I'm gonna build outside of a few outliers. We have some Tony Robbins, and Napoleon Hills and Abraham Hicks and those people will live a bit longer than the average. But most people can't name their great great grandpa, let alone their grandfather. Yeah, but yet we live in this society that pushes legacy go do the thing. And I'm like, it actually doesn't matter. Like at the end of the day, nothing that we do matters. And here's what I hold simultaneously. One that concept paired with everything they fucking do in this moment is the most important thing that I do. Right. And so if you can, like wrap your head around that it's a weird sense of freedom. So like, even though like I build businesses, and I coach people, I speak on the stages, the podcast, blah, blah. It's like, as I look down the tunnel, I got the end of the day, it doesn't actually matter. And we hold ourselves to this account where it's like, man, like it's got to be perfect. Like, no it doesn't. My book here, let me say this real quick, because you'll see why, why I said this. My first book has like a ton of reviews on Amazon, on Barnes and Noble, on Apple. All of them are five stars. The first book, except for one, one, and it's a two-star review. And the person goes, I couldn't get through the book. The grammar is terrible.Oh, I have that review, too. I have Yeah, all fives and then I have that person. Here's why I don't care about the five stars or the two stars. Because I did that for me. I was like, I'm gonna write a fucking book. And I'm gonna write another one. And I'm gonna do another one and then make the podcast and then I'm gonna speak on stages. I'm gonna write coaching programs, I'm gonna do all that. And it's just like, I'm just going to do it. But people who are in that perfectionist mindset, they're trapped in the idea of the other person's opinion is so important that if they get the two-star review, it will cripple them. And I'm just I don't care and so maybe that makes me very nonchalant but you see how I operate in the world?Lesley Logan 24:32 Yeah, cuz I because when I said it's, I think you care a lot. I actually the word care is not that you care about what I think. I feel that you care about the people that you put yourselves in a room with, like whenever I'm in a room with you, or Brad's in a room with you. We can tell that you care about the people in that room in that moment. So you like so I think it's really fascinating. And it goes kind of back to what we've been talking this whole time is that integrity but also that intentionality of like you're you're, you're like, in this moment, this is all that I'm really here that matters. And that once I leave this moment, it, whatever it's over and what anyone says about that moment, whether they were there or not, it doesn't actually pertain to me. Because that moment over and I can't change it.Michael Unbroken 25:15 This is why can't get canceled. Right, right. And I've been attempted to be canceled four times. I'm like, I don't give a fuck. I have a question for you. Because I think this is important. What did you get a two-star review? How do you feel about that?Lesley Logan 25:29 At the time? At the time, I wasn't really ready for it. Anything. well, like I read it, and it was kind of like, exactly the, my worst fear. You know, it was a grammar one and I had an editor go through it. Michael Unbroken 25:44 Why was it your worst fear? Lesley Logan 25:45 Because my grammar isn't awesome. And so like I was I didn't want anyone to see the grammar problems and not get the what the book was about, like I wanted the book to actually help them. And I didn't want the grammar to take away from helping them. So I did hire an editor. They didn't catch everything. No one does not perfect. So when I got that, of course, like it felt like the wind got knocked out of me. Now this is 10 years ago, very different person. And I let the wind get and luckily, I lived in L.A. at the time, and I did drive around at the time. So I was in traffic and I let myself like get the wind knocked out of me. And then I got angry at the person. And I got like whoever this person was, because I was like, fuck you like going to the whole thing. But I was like, Wait a minute. This is not an English book. This is a book to make sure that Pilates instructors stopped getting swindled out of their dollars, because people are selling them ship programs, period. And do the do any of the commas or periods and their fuck up that message. No, they don't. So I wrote back. It's a good thing. I'm not an English teacher, I hope that you don't get swindled out of the wrong programs, you know, and, and good luck on your journey. And I was like and I it did take me the whole day to get there. Now I might expect much quicker. Now I like I laugh so hard, because people on YouTube love to write a ton of shit about me. But my people come for them, which is also a lot of fun. But I think like it also you have to get to a point where you can go I didn't do this. Like I had to get to the point where it's like, Wait, am I didn't do this for that person. I I hadn't done it for me yet. But I absolutely did it to help people. And I and it was a particular group of people and that person, wasn't it. And so I had to like learn whose opinions of me matter. Oh, not that person. It wasn't who he's doing it for. Michael Unbroken 27:26 Yeah. And that's, that goes back to the egos need to be right. Why even give the energy to respond? Oh, yeah, I like and part of it. You want the rebuttal because you be like a fuck your mother. Yeah. Like, that's how I think about. And I and I work really, really hard. Because like, I have very strong opinions like you know, me personally like is there are times where I say shit where most people like, I cannot believe you just said that. And I'm like, why? Like, if we have freedom of speech, and part of being human being is the ability to express who we are. In what I'm not saying there's not consequences, because there certainly are, but I'm like, I'm gonna do it anyway. Yeah. And I think that in that there's, there's, again, I'm gonna tie into that word freedom. When I rebuttal to people, I really take a step back. And I'm like, what does this serve? Right? Because I think that we want to argue and fight and we have this need to be right all the time. And I do too. And it's something that I have to really think about, because there's like seven times a day where I'm like, I need to be right. And a hard part about is I'm right a lot. And so it just fuels my ego more. And then when I'm wrong, which I really appreciate, when somebody will sit across from me and be like, you're looking at it wrong. I learn. And there's power in that. And I think that you have to be willing to be a learner.Lesley Logan 28:49 Yeah. I think that's hard for people. It's like, our entire way that we're educated on this planet on this country that we're we're both in is like to get the A. And it's so pointless, because all it teaches is like don't just copy the Smart kid in class, because, like, why get in trouble. And so you have to be right, when it's like, it's so much more important to value the journey that you got there. And like how you got that answer and like, where that came from. And like, I think that's really hard because people it's not that they want to be. They have to be right in front of you or in front of somebody else. It's they're afraid if they're wrong, then people are going to judge them for being wrong. And it's like, no, it's okay to learn. It's okay to go. Oh, I never thought about that way. That's not the life experience I had. So of course, I didn't think about that way. Thank you for letting me know about a different life experience.Michael Unbroken 29:40 And that's because we think that people are thinking about us. Lesley Logan 29:43 Oh, right. They're not?Michael Unbroken 29:44 They're not. Like, nobody gives a shit about you. I mean, that's a very crass way of saying it but like, realistically, like nobody's thinking about me right now. Lesley Logan 29:54 That is well and that is something that takes a long time for people to even I haven't even read Recently, there was something that was going on around the holidays where I had, like, it felt like everyone was thinking about me, just because a lot of people were reaching out. I am, but because there were people, a lot of people reaching out, which made me think, oh my God, a lot of people are thinking about this. But when it came down to it, I looked at the statistics of what was going on. And I actually looked at things I was like, oh, not many people are thinking about this. And so I'm stressing about what people are thinking about me when really, they're not. And it's such a freeing moment to go. They're not and that's okay, it is okay. What,Michael Unbroken 30:31 like, why did that shift for you? Because like, you're a public figure, like me, you've had your face up on big alas billboards, and you're, you know, this person that people look towards for stuff, whatever that stuff is that you have at the moment. Like, what? I know this about myself, I'm gonna create codecs. But for the question, I know this about myself, I was invisible as a kid. Growing up being homeless, being the worst kid in school being the kid who smelled like garbage, who wore clothes from the goodwill in the church, who was on the the food stamp cards and ever I was invisible. And I played sports. And I was particularly fond of wrestling, because it was me versus one person. And I have a bunch of championships wrestling, because I love being on the podium and being first place. And it was like my, I am fueled by this need to be seen. I know this about I will admit this publicly. Why do I like speaking in front of 10,000 people? Because motherfuckers are paying attention to me. Yeah, right. And so with what you just said, how do you? How do you handle like, okay, I'm this public persona. But at the same time, I recognize people don't think about me. Lesley Logan 31:43 Yeah, I well, first of all, I remember like, I love the Hero's Journey, and I love reminding myself, I'm the guide, not the hero. So I think that that's important.Michael Unbroken 31:54 Context (inaudible).Lesley Logan 31:55 Yeah. So, so in what we do, as coaches as people who have ideas of solutions for problems that people want to have solved, it is so important for people that for people who work with me to understand that they're solving the problem, I'm just presenting an option for them. And like, if you like, here's the option, I can take you across this bridge, but you're still, you're still the one that shines, you're still the one that is the rock star, you're still the one that did it, I cannot do it for you. And so for me, like, that's kind of how I keep it in check. It's like, whoa, hold on. Because if it really bothers me that I'm trying to be the hero of their story. And that's not why I got into this. And that's that, well, that's not sustainable. That's not That's exhausting. And that's like, you have to be too many things that too many people. But as a guide, it's like, well, you can choose me as your guide. Or you could choose you as your guide, or there's like 17 other thousand people in the city that you could choose as your guide. And that's the choice that they have to make. So that's kind of how I do it. And it's and that's not easy when I can see that I am the guide for this person. Like there's that ego like I know, I can help them, then my job is to make sure that my messaging and what I put out in the world makes them feel comfortable for me to be their guide, but I still can't be like me, me, me, me, me. You have to do that yourself. And then I think the other year, we're talking about being seen. I think it's so interesting to go back and wonder why you do things because I do all this stuff so that people belong because I never felt like I belonged. I felt like the weirdest I felt like the weird kid in town. Michael Unbroken 33:21 You are the weird kid. Lesley Logan 33:22 I am still the weird kid.Michael Unbroken 33:23 But I am too. And that's why we get along. Lesley Logan 33:25 Yeah, so like, I again, like because I'm sure people that I grew up with Listen, it's not that I don't think I had friends. It's that I actually just never felt like I was I always felt like the outsider in the group, partly because I did not have money. And I did not have the new clothes. My grandmother was a secretary at an elementary school. And so at the end of every school term, we would go through the clothes that were left behind, because the kids left behind, you know, they had good clothes I had so I had the best jean jackets of the 90s. Like you would have thought I was rich because I had all these jean jackets.Michael Unbroken 33:59 But you're just a year behind.Lesley Logan 34:00 A year behind and they're someone else's that left them behind. But like I just I felt likeMichael Unbroken 34:04 Did you have a moment where a kid came up to you and like, that's my jacket. Lesley Logan 34:07 Thank goodness. No, because Michael Unbroken 34:08 It happened to me once. It was one of the most embarrassing experiences of my entire childhood. It was a Tommy Hilfiger jacket. It was one of those pullovers it was red, white and blue I'll never forget it and I was like, oh my God cuz it was it was in the lost and found and I didn't have a coat because we're fucking poor. And like the one of the teachers gave it to me from Lost and Found a week later this kids like that's my jacket.Lesley Logan 34:30 Ah, that hurts my soul because I do understand that like, so I I do everything to involve community, there has to be community aspect. And it's because like, I just know how important it is to feel like you belong in a group and you're safe in a group and that people miss you and expect you to be in that group. And so that's kind of how I can that's what everything is driven. If you look at anything we do, there's a community to it. There just is we do the FYFs here because I want to, it's the only way I can show the listener communities stuff likeMichael Unbroken 35:03 What does FYF mean?Lesley Logan 35:04 Oh, Fuck Yeah Fridays, do you do this? Michael Unbroken 35:06 No.Lesley Logan 35:07 You should. Michael Unbroken 35:08 What is it? Lesley Logan 35:08 I mean, you celebrate things all the time, so maybe don't need it. But FuckYeah Friday is like if I would love people to celebrate their wins every single day, but most people won't. So on Fridays, you celebrate a win. And I it's even better if it's a small win or a win that like the project is imperfect or it's not completed yet, but I share the listeners' wins. And then I share a win of mine. And and it's like eight minutes long, nine minuteslong, it is super short. And the whole idea is to get people to think about like, Oh, I've never thought about that being a win. That is a win. Like, just people need to celebrate that they've done shit. They've done stuff and they don't give themselves credit for it. Michael Unbroken 35:41 Yeah, they don't. I didn't either. For a long time it was I was speaking on set with me the most so if you know Grant Cardone, yeah. he invested in my company, I had spoken at one of his boot camps it was 10,000 people watching. And it was a pitch competition where I was like a shark tank kind of thing. Where I was pitching Think Unbroken, and what I do, and like, I fucking crushed, I destroyed everybody. It wasn't like, and I'll say this too, because I can sometimes probably come off as like, maybe egotistical, but I just believe in myself more than most people believe in themselves. Like, I'm not Kanye level self-belief. But I'm sometimes I'm pretty close.Lesley Logan 36:22 I'll keep you posted if you cross over. Michael Unbroken 36:25 That's what you need friends for. Right? Lesley Logan 36:28 Brad and I go, hey, Kanye, you'll go ohMichael Unbroken 36:30 If you ever hear me go, I am a God. But like you need that, like I always teach my clients, you need to believe in yourself. Because if you don't who will? And yes, I'm like getting ready to go on stage and do this pitch. And we're in the greenroom with all these other people who are about to pitch this business. And one of the women goes, well, good luck, everybody. But I already won. And I remember I didn't say this verbally, but in my head. I was like, you're fucking insane. You have no idea how much you just fueled me to crush you even more, because I'm super competitive, right? And so we get on stage. Grant goes, who wants to go first, I raised my hand so fast. It's like coming out of my fucking socket. Because I know one rule in business and in life always go first. If it's scary, you're about to do the zipline go first. If it's you got to get on the plane, go first, like, always go first. Always, always always. Because automatically, you will present yourself as a leader and the alpha in the situation, which I think is important, because we don't have enough leaders in this world right now. Yeah. And so I go first, I crush literally like the next four people are like literally blah, blah, blah. It's like incredible to watch. And not for them. But for me and stuff. And so, at the end Grant goes, okay, yeah, this is no-brainer. We know who won. And it was me. I knew I won because I envisioned it a thousand of times leading up to that moment. I have done this speech a zillion times. And he said something to me. And it sits with me going to Fuck Yeah Friday, he said to me, dude, hold on, take your flowers. And that means like, in that moment, or whenever it is, celebrate the things that you have done. We move too fast, constantly. Where it's like on to the next on the next on the next. And I think that's entrepreneurs, especially we're guilty of this where I'm like, I did something incredible. And I'm like, automatically over the next thing. And it's like, hold on, pause. Maybe it's not. I just spoke in front of 10,000 people because, for most people, that's not what it's gonna be. But maybe it's I brush my teeth today. That's where my journey started. Like, for real? I was like, get out of fucking bed dude, go brush your teeth. That in some days, that's all I did. Yeah. And I think that that's what people have to recognize. Because that gives you a win. And if you have one win you start stacking them and it becomes exponential and compounding, and then next thing you know, a year later your life is different. How do you so how do you celebrate your wins? How do you take your flowers? Lesley Logan 38:57 Oh, I'm a verbal processor. So you will hear me around this house going fuck yeah, I'm amazing. Just killed that, like, Michael Unbroken 39:06 Fucking ego maniac. Lesley Logan 39:08 Like I do and like so there's this hilarious story. I was in this program with Jay Grimes and he is one of the last living people to study with Joseph Pilates and you had to like basically assess, to stay in the program. And I was really certainly with this last last portion of it. I could never get all the exercises done in the time that I knew how to get them done. I was really struggling and and I was a little nervous because I was like, oh my god, like if I can't get this done in this time, I'm going to miss out and I'm not going to graduate with my friends. I'm not going to finish my friends like then there's an ego of like, do it all over again and wait till next year. And I was like, Hold on. Okay, we're just gonna visualize it. So I went there that day and I like got there an hour early and I just visualized myself doing every single exercise every single station doing it and like I'm like having a good time. So when I did the actual assessment There was an exercise that I really struggled with and I did it and I as I was finishing, like, fuck yeah, I'm amazing. And I wanted the next thing and he just was like, what? Because no one talks and I'm like, nailed that did that. Whether I did or not this person who was judging me, they're going okay, I guess she nailed it. But like so that's my first started noticing that that was one of my best pep talks. For me it was just like saying it out loud. That might not work for other people. You might want to dance or maybe have a high five your kids or something like that. But that worked really well for me. And I still do this to this day. And when you were talking about that, it made me think of the have you read the book? The Big Leap? Michael Unbroken 40:36 No, I have not.Lesley Logan 40:37 Gay Hendricks people listen to the pod. I talk about this book all the fucking time. It's an annual read for me. If you listen to books on it right now. It listen to it at one point for speed. It's like your grandfather, you never had read you a lovely story, because maybe your grandfather was lovely. My grandfather's were like realist, bringing negative people. So like, wasn't my grandpa, but the grandpa I wanted. So he has, there are different things we do to upper limit ourselves. And specifically, when we are winning specifically, when we like have a win, it pulls us out of our comfort zone, because in our comfort zone, like we're probably not winning all the time. So when we do something that pulls us out of our comfort zone, there are things that we do to upper limit ourselves and then pull ourselves back in and want there's a there's like seven of them. One of them is self-deprecation. Another one is worrying. Another one is picking fights. Some people get sick, I had a client who every time she met a guy that she liked, and had a date with him one date with them, she would lose her fucking voice gone for six months. So the relationship effectively died because there's no second date because she lost her voice for six months. And I was like, I'm just gonna say this. I think you're, I think you're doing this to yourself, I think this is like a nonsense in your head. But like, There's something so you've been on three dates and 18 months and you've lost your voice three times like this is really a thing. So I am someone who and you got to know this about yourself so you can catch it. So I'm the person when I complete something. And I have a win I will look for all the things that aren't completed yet. And I will go focus on like all the things that aren't going well. So like I had this big win and like well this didn't go well and this and go on this thing over here is not done and we're not doing that the right way. Instead of actually just taking a moment to Grant Cardone's thing picking the flowers and so now it's so important and Brad is very much on board with us when we have a win we just celebrate the win. Tomorrow, two hours from now, whenever we can actually look at the other things that have to happen but right now it's just celebrating the win and really like sitting in that and maybe we light a candle I don't know like what do we do sometimes like the money handle like it happens but like it's so so important because otherwise you're just building the muscle that pulls you back into your comfort zone. Michael Unbroken 42:52 Yeah, what is the money candle? Lesley Logan 42:54 Oh welcome to my house. Michael Unbroken 42:56 Is it made out of money?Lesley Logan 42:58 No it has it has crystals inside and you do an encantation inviting money in and then you light the money candle and then ideally leave it burning until it burns itself out and then there's crystals inside that are that are like you know incensed with your vision or your dream I'm currently am this week while I'm working burning the obstacle remover candleMichael Unbroken 43:22 We are so different. Lesley Logan 43:27 But like I I'm a visual person verbal processor, so having that burning like as soon as like I'm like, oh, like we're like we're doing it we're gonna like it just helps me like remind myself my things, but I get them they don't pay for this show, House of intuition, they they sell these candles. I fucking love it.Michael Unbroken 43:44 I laugh because you know me I'm not very (inaudible)Lesley Logan 43:48 I would say that Brad is a (inaudible) guy and he burns the money candle.Michael Unbroken 43:54 Mine is sage like because I have seen like where you might I don't necessarily want to go down this path but like I have seen shit and yeah, I need to sage immediately.Lesley Logan 44:03 Do you sage with like burning the sage or do you have sage spray? Or do you both? The burning? Oh, I'm gonna show you when you leave the house. I'm gonna show you my sage spray. You need to take it on your trip. It'll fit in your travel pack because you're seeing 10,000 people you got to save yourself. Michael Unbroken 44:16 Yeah, yeah, there's something interesting about like, as I go deeper into my own personal journey, whether it's with psychedelics, or whether it's just through meditation, or just feeling energy, I've come to realize I'm actually an empath, which is really strange because I always have been able to pick up on tones of emotions feelings, that is a fucking buzzword everybody's an empath now it's like shut up. No, you're not. And then it's like, I feel that and it's like, I realize especially through podcasting, and bringing all these different people into my home into my studio into my life. I'm talking about really heavy shit. Like there's something and look, it might just be psychosomatic where I'm like, if I just sage this house, like I feel better. Yeah. Sage my backpack, like, whatever. That's probably my (inaudible) thing.Lesley Logan 45:05 I actually, I think that that's, you know, I think some people might like see a white light that cleanses them, I think it's important to have some rituals that help you kind of shed things that are now are not needed in the moment you're in because shit happens like, your mom's going to text you at the worst fucking time and you're like, oh, I don't have time to deal with that right now. And it's like, so it's like, you've kind of have to figure out what works for you. To get back into the headspace you need to be in for the thing that you're wanting to do. Michael Unbroken 45:34 Yeah, and not be dogmatic too. Like, I think one of the things that I've grown tremendously over the years is to not be dogmatic, right, because that I have found that that is the ultimate fixed mindset. Yeah, you know, when it's like, if you're dogmatic about anything, and there's no room for opportunity touches a favor and grace. And then suddenly, you're like, it's kind of like these people that we coach, right? Because on this one hand, you, you have to be exposed to this new idea. And we lay it out in front of you. And it's like, if you are unwilling, I remember I've only ever, I've never shared this before. So be cautious in the way that I do. I've only ever let go have one client ever in almost a decade of doing this. And this person was so incredibly dogmatic in their belief that this wouldn't work that I had to fire them. Yeah, I believe I hire my clients in the same way they hire me. But it's my time. It's my energy. It's my resources. That's my team, it's. And so this person, I would sit in front of them. And we would have these conversations, and I'm exploring opportunity. And the thing I'm always trying to lay within people's framework is like, be solution oriented. Because if you can just do that there's so much potential in front of you, instead of looking for roadblock, look for possibility. Yeah. And like this, this person, they just refused. And I fire them. And I remember thinking in that moment, you talk about like, evaluating yourself as a person who does this. I'm like, am I a bad coach? Because I couldn't win that person. And I was recently with my mentor, and we have an interview show every Wednesday, where we interview just for three to four people ever, like 600 episodes almost. And I came in later. So I haven't been there for all 600. But the one of the guys were coaches name's Bill, last name fucking escapes me right now. So I apologize. But he said something fascinating to me. He goes, players win games, coaches win players. And, and I was like, but you can't win them. All. Right. And that applies to every, like, that's a great parable for life. Because it's like, you can't win all the time. Right? You're going to suck as a coach, you're gonna suck as a partner, you're gonna suck as a podcaster. You know, as a mom and a dad, as a employee or a business owner, you're gonna have days where you just don't win. But it's like, can you just keep going?Lesley Logan 48:02 I actually, that's awesome. I really love thinking like that. Because, um, it goes kind of goes back to like, nothing is ever as bad or as good as we're going to expect. Like, like, the worst-case scenario rarely happens. And the best case scenario rarely happens like Brad love you. And he, I love his sheets, like I love like his sheets, like all his calculators, like, we can do this. And I'm like, okay, so it's probably not going to hit that money, it's probably going to hit around like 75% of that, that. So do I want to do it for 75% of that? Is that enough? Is that like, you know, you can have to like understand that, but you're not going to win them all. And what I really find as a as a strength that I have, is that when shit hits the fan, I'm like, Okay, what else is possible? Like I do really well when like, when when something comes up, of course, I'm not perfect. You guys. I do feel my feelings. There are like, a bunch of Fuck yeah, what the fuck is going on? How to who did what? And then it's like, okay, so Well, we're not going to quit now. Like, we can't stop. So what can we do? And I love that question. Like what is possible? I wonder there's a reason why it's tattooed on my left thumb, because I'm left handed. So when I see it, I go, I wonder. I wonder, I wonder like, you open up a loop and your brain can't stop thinking until you close it. And to go back to that client you fired. When you're like, No, that's not going to work period. It, correct. Because you've put a you, you haven't even your brain is not going to search for evidence for it to be true.Michael Unbroken 49:29 So going back to the big leap, there's something I think about a lot and that's like the next level. There's a guy named Bishop TD Jakes. You know this guy? Lesley Logan 49:39 Was he not on Oprah?Michael Unbroken 49:41 He may have been.Lesley Logan 49:42 Is he a pastor? Michael Unbroken 49:43 Yes. So he's a pastor. Lesley Logan 49:45 Black guy?Michael Unbroken 49:45 Heavyset black dude.Lesley Logan 49:46 Love him. Love him. Michael Unbroken 49:48 Super (inaudible) very boomingLesley Logan 49:51 He has a voice for pastorship. Michael Unbroken 49:54 One of the probably most prolific speakers of our age. I don't necessarily align in a lot of ways with him. But you don't have to. You don't have to. This is one things I think all the time. Like, you don't have to always like people to learn from them. And he said something so fascinating that I think applies to everything in life. And I think about this almost every day, literally almost every day. He goes new levels, new devils. And that's what I think about in this journey. Because it's like, as we continue to progress and grow, like the next thing is coming. I think about that all the time. It's like Fuck, man. Like this idea that it's gonna get easy if slash when, doesn't exist.Lesley Logan 50:39 No, I interviewed Ripley Rader. And she had that idea. She's a, you probably don't get these ads, Michael. But I do. She's got these amazing pants look on everybody, right. And so I interviewed her and she had said to her first PR team, she's like, Oh, my God, it's going to be so much easier when x and they looked at her and said, No, you'll just work more. It'll, you'll get there. And then you'll just keep working. Like, it's not easier when and I think if you the sooner you can learn that, the less disappointed you'll be in life. And the more opportunities you'll actually look for TD, TD, he was on Oprah years ago, you guys, I don't know how long ago, but I was I was listening to like, you know, Oprah Supersoul podcast, which is like clips of her show. And this woman was like telling a story. And then it got her life got worse, and her life got worse. And they cut her off. And they said, Stop with the story, because it's just a story. And they're like, if you actually want to move forward with your life, you have to let that go. You have to start, you have to stop holding yourself to the story and your life being what it is because of this instead going what is possible right now. And he told his whole story about some dog, boy, the mom was hit by a car. And so she owned like, she only worked with three legs. And so you drag one of her back legs and so that all the puppies drag their legs. And the reality is it's like they didn't have to they had functioning legs, but they were following along with their mom. And it really we go oh my gosh, like, if I like I don't have kids. But if I don't work on myself, I don't actually figure out how to make things happen then everyone who does get impacted by me will do things the same way just based on observing me. So I want to like better myself the best I can. So I'm not leading people to drag a leg when they don't need to. Michael Unbroken 52:17 Yeah, that's so good. You know, it's funny, as I just came back from Indianapolis, I grew up there. My little brother just graduated the police academy. And I was having a conversation with my other brother as he was like getting ready to go on stage and do all this shit. Or it might have been after it's one of the I don't remember kind of like that windows all mushed into one time. And he goes, this wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for you talking about me. Because if you go look at my life, 25 years old, I'm morbidly obese, smoking two packs a day drinking myself to sleep. I'm massively in debt. I got my car got repoed my fucking girlfriend found out I was cheating on her with like 18 people it was I'm not exaggerating, exaggerating that at all. One of my brothers literally goes never talked to me again, you're not my brother, like my life was complete shambles 13 years ago. And last week, this brother looks at me and goes, this wouldn't be possible without you. And it all comes down to this what you just said. It's like people are watching. They're paying attention. They are looking at you. They're following you. They're tracking you. They're measuring you. And it's like, I decided to take my brother's to a Tony Robbins event. Because even though I'm the trauma guy, and I'm the coach, and you know, all the books in the podcast, and billboards in Times Square of like, don't give a fuck, they're my brothers. They could not care less. Right. They care, but like, less. Lesley Logan 53:45 Yeah, it's true.Michael Unbroken 53:47 And so I take them to Tony, and like, their wives are different. But that started with me, or 13 years ago, when my lowest moment I was enough. I had enough of my own bullshit. And it's like, you keep dragging that leg and you wonder why your community sucks. Why Your family is failing. Why your money sucks. Why your relationship is garbage. Why? It's always someone else's problem. Like look in the mirror. You were homeless. It was your fault. Lake, you know what I mean? I'm literally talking to you. Yeah, it's like, it's like, you look at that, and people go, No, it's not your fault. Um, so life is so hard. It's like for everyone. Yeah. So why do you think you're special? Lesley Logan 54:30 Yeah, I I, one thing I'm really grateful for is my, my, my parents. My dad did a really good job

Brad and Lesley revisit an enlightening conversation with Rebecca Zung, a leading authority on narcissism negotiation. Delve deep into the complexities of interacting with narcissistic personalities, the significance of self-worth, and the necessity of boundary-setting. Listen now for actionable strategies to handle narcissists and reclaim your autonomy.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The underlying drivers of narcissistic behavior and how to recognize them.Effective strategies to end toxic narcissistic relationships and reclaim your life.Actionable steps to navigate and protect yourself from narcissistic manipulation.Empowering methods to establish and enforce healthy boundaries with narcissists.Proven tactics to shift from a defensive stance to an empowered offense for personal freedomEpisode References/Links:Andrea Maida's YouTube ChannelPreorder Rebecca Zung's Book: Slay the BullyCambodia Pilates RetreatJoin our email list!Profitable Pilates book by Lesley Logan  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.Join us at our Cambodia Retreat - Oct. 8-13, 2023Get your free Athletic Greens 1 year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 and 5 free travel packsGet your discount for some Toe Sox using the code: LESLEYBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  There's nothing wrong with you. Everything about you is why they attach themselves to you. So you just need to really recognize the signs of when a narcissist is coming your way.Lesley Logan 0:03  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:16  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It Interview Recap. My co-host, Brad and I are going to dig into the actionable convo I had with Rebecca Zung in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one now, you must, because you need to. Go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us. You can also listen to this first and then go listen to that. But y'all this is one of the guests that was on my like I want on my show. When we first started this podcast, I heard her on To the People Podcast. And I had her on my list (Brad: that was on the wish list). And then do you all remember when I had that girls' weekend? I think I talked about this on the podcast. I don't think she know how this worked out. I was on a girls' weekend and with those girls, I just met on the internet and I said come out to Vegas and we had like a girls' weekend. And she's like one of the girls like well, what do you need? How can I support you? And I was like I want Rebecca Zung on my podcast not thinking she knew her. And she goes, oh, shoot she's my friend. And I was like, what? You should go and text her. She literally texted her at the bar and Rebecca Zung said, I'm wrapping up my book. So reach out to me after September 1. And Carrie said would you prefer email or text? And she said email. So literally after like September 1, Carrie was like, and she's one of our recent guests. She said, hey, Rebecca, she said, this is Lesley (inaudible) and now she's on my podcast and yeah, crazy right? The interview was a while back, but she requested that it came out during her book launch, which you can go get her books (Brad: Which is pretty much now.) Pretty much now. So anyways, today is September 28, 2023. It is Remember Me Thursday. The purpose of today is to share the importance of pet adoption and shedding light on all orphan pets, waiting in shelters and rescues. Oh my god. (Brad: Yeah) I torture myself because I do look at the Nevada SPCA. (Brad: Yes, you do.) I know. I just I do and I like watch their videos. But I reallyBrad Crowell 3:15  I was I was like, on offensive of getting that red nose. He was fucking cute. (Lesley: So cute.) He's a good dog. Oh my god. But four dogs and two humans in a van. (Lesley: No, no) It's too much.Lesley Logan 3:29  We promised ourselves we would try out two dogs. (Brad: Oh) I'm sure it won't stay that way. Because now three is too many. But you know, here we are. But at any rate, if you cannot adopt if you live in a place where you cannot adopt, you cannot foster which by the way you can be someone who fosters if you like I travel a lot, you can actually be a foster. And you can tell a shelter or charity like I can foster for these two weeks. (Brad: Right) You know, and then I'm going to be gone. And like youBrad Crowell 3:58  or even if you're not allowed, like let's say you live in an apartment and you can't have a pet. You can actually volunteer to just walk the dogs. (Lesley: You can walk the dogs.) I used to do that. Just drive down a mile down the street. There was a couple of shelters and they always needed help walking dogs.Lesley Logan 4:14  Oh, yeah. We used to walk the shelter dogs when they were at the vet. That's right. Yeah. Anyways, it's I promise you like, especially if you're lonely, especially if you're going through a lot. There's something really special about like, just taking a dog who has no family for a walk. Yeah, it really does fill your soul. They're so loving and they just want to be loved. So anyways, the other thing is you can donate like find a charity that you can donate to because your money will help them help dogs get rescued and also help them get placed. Shout out to we listened to a podcast Keith Olbermann and every single night he actually talks about a dog in need. Yeah, and everything. Most of the dogs I would probably I'm not like a small dog person. But like I I love how he highlights them and so he can't adopt them. Also, I don't know maybe we should just like it's Little hard for us because our podcast comes out. You know, it's we don't get to record same day. We don't have the luxury of being Keith. But um, I do want to figure out how to like, I just keep going adopt this dog people.Brad Crowell 5:11  Yeah.Lesley Logan 5:12  So go do that this week. You may have caught that I was going live with Andrea Maida on YouTube (Brad: Over the past two weeks.) Yeah, yeah, it's happening. So Andrea Maida and I are dear friends, and we used to do a YouTube series together, couples struggle is real. And then we did tequila, tequila talks. And then Lesley Logan 5:28  (Inaudible) Pilates and tequila, y'all.Lesley Logan 5:36  We just answered Pilates. We didn't do Pilates and drink tequila. We drink [tequila] and answered your question. Yeah. And YouTube recently allowed different YouTube YouTubers to go live together. So we did one on my, my channel, one on her channel, and we're answering your questions. And so check them out. You can find them on my YouTube channel, which is youtube.com/@onlinepilatesclasses. Yes, you need the @ symbol. I think it's weird, but you know, it's Google. They know what they're doing. And then I believe Andrea is the same youtube.com/@pilatesandrea yes, you need the @ symbol babe. He's nodding because I'm correct. If you're watching on YouTube.Lesley Logan 5:39  She's totally right. Yeah, I'm impressed.Lesley Logan 6:23  Yeah. So anyways, you can just go slashonlinepilatesclasses. It doesn't work, you have to use the @ symbol. Brad Crowell 6:27  Yeah, hers is not @Andrea Maida. (Lesley: No. It's PilatesAndrea.) Oh, PilatesAndrea Yeah. Yes, that's what it is.Lesley Logan 6:37  I know. (Brad: Subscribe) Links will be in the show notes and you should like and subscribe both Ding, ding. That's what the bell does. Ding, ding. So all that'll be in the show notes. And then we are really even much closer to getting on a plane and going to Cambodia for our retreat.Brad Crowell 6:55  I am so fired up like, I can't wait. Lesley Logan 6:57  Also because we have a couple like after the retreat ends, one of our retreaters are staying longer. And and the next retreat that's starting up doesn't really happen until that Sunday. And so I want to go to Kulen to the elephant thing. Brad Crowell 7:10  Yeah. Well, I don't know how we didn't know this. But there's an elephant sanctuary about an hour and a half outside the city. That the only one I knew about before was like 12 hours drive away. And I was like, well, that's complicated. (Lesley: That's not happening.) We never really even tried to plan that. But I just found out this one, just north of a Siem Reap. And it turns out our amazing tour guide Peach, she literally knows the people who run it. (Lesley: Of course, she does.) She goes there often. So you know. Lesley Logan 7:37  Yeah, so we're gonna we're gonna make that happen. I hope my fingers are crossed. (Brad: I'm very excited about that idea.) No, no. Does that mean we can also go to the waterfall?Brad Crowell 7:44  Yeah, well, maybe we're there. Why not? It'll be Saturday.Lesley Logan 7:48  So that is stuff that we do. Obviously, that doesn't always happen on the retreat. That's something we're doing after the retreat. But like, if you stay after the retreat, you know, and we're there, there's adventures to do. In fact, we don't have to be there. You can go to adventures and stay at our place. So it's super fun. Brad Crowell 8:04  We do Airbnb that out when we're not there with with retreaters. So yeah.Lesley Logan 8:10  Lesleylogan.co/retreat.Brad Crowell 8:11  Yeah. And if you are looking for a spot to take your retreat to, we do all the logistics, and we have the whole thing set up where you can effectively take your group, we'll handle all the legwork, and you can teach them your thing and then effectively run the program that we've created with the food and the touring and the experience and the the hotels and all the things you know all of it. So.Lesley Logan 8:34  Yeah. And then November fourth and fifth I'm in Chicago with Erika Quest teaching a week of Pilates workshops. We were so excited to team up again. We'll also actually be doing that in December. That's gonna be a fun trip. Oh, I'm gonna have less oh, you might not know this. I'm staying later. (Brad: Come on.) I am. So it ends on Sunday.Brad Crowell 8:53  I'll handle the dogs, babe. I got this.Lesley Logan 8:55  I'm staying with Peter. Peter Spinelli is gonna meet me in Chicago and we're gonna do a couple days.Brad Crowell 9:01  Breaking news. Breaking news, everyone. Internal family news here.Lesley Logan 9:06  And when I come back, I'm gonna go to Arizona. Brad Crowell 9:09  What? What do you mean? Where? Where are you going? Lesley Logan 9:12  Oh, I use those points to get like an incredible hotel. My mom is coming out to visit.Brad Crowell 9:18  I knew this. (Lesley: You knew this part.) I knew that part, but I didn't realize that it was right after Chicago.Lesley Logan 9:23  I'll be. I'll be home for 24 hours. Brad Crowell 9:26  Oh, okay. Yeah. All right. I'll just keep watching the dogs. Yeah, I got this. Lesley Logan 9:28  Yeah, you do. This is payback for that month you were in Cambodia. I get one week. Anyways. But the things you can attend of that entire conversation is November fourth and fifth in Chicago. With Erika Quest, you'll need to make sure you're on our email list to get that information because I don't have a link right now.Brad Crowell 9:46  Go to opc.me/emails Lesley Logan 9:49  Yep. And you want to do that same thing to understand what's going to happen with our winter tour because our winter tour we go from Las Vegas to Philly area (Brad: Yeah) and back which means lots of citiesBrad Crowell 10:00  There are so many. And honestly, this is going to be way different than our previous tours. I think there's going to be a handful more locations, we're going to be teaching workshops instead of just classes, this time around. We're going to be bringing the decks with us. So and that's, you know, we're we are already sponsored by Balanced Body for this leg of the for this tour. And we got a bunch of other companies that we're talking with right now. So it's going to be an amazing experience. We cannot wait to announce the cities. Yeah. And we'll be doing all that at the end of or close to the end of this. Probably right around when this is coming out, actually is when we're going to be publicly announcing that so.Lesley Logan 10:42  Yes, we want to be on those emails. Yeah. (Brad: Do it. Do it. Do it.) Because they're all limited spaces. Yeah. Okay. Before we get into Rebecca Zung's incredible advice do we have an audience question?Brad Crowell 10:52  Yeah, we do. This one was awesome. We got a YouTube question from @WayneFurquharson9007Brad Crowell 10:57  The way you said that it makes you think that they found a new way to say fuck you.Brad Crowell 11:07  I know. I'm not sure I don't think that (Lesley: It is Furquharson.) It could be Furquharson. (Lesley: Furquharson) I'm gonna go with that. We're gonna go with that y'all. Lesley Logan 11:18  I'm gonna Google the person. It's an incredible, amazing question. So I can't imagine that's a fake name. Brad Crowell 11:23  Well, it was a comment on one of our videos about comparing different like explaining the different pieces of a Pilates equipment. I said, Wow, that was amazing insight into different pieces of equipment, it'd be really nice to see some equipment comparisons. So you know, comparing the different chairs and comparing the performers, that's really complicated, because there's no place where there's like a showroom of reformers. (Lesley: No, no.) So I don't know how we would do that. (Lesley: I did say that in my response to that.) You did. You did. Yeah. But she said also recommendations for training providers. What? And then the question, What makes you an all around practitioner of Pilates? Do you need to study classical? Do you study modern? Is there like a scientific version of Pilates? Like, what is the best path here? Lesley Logan 12:04  Yeah, so first of all, when it comes to training providers like and when I could decide if this is like teacher training providers, or like, who to take from, so if it is teacher training providers, you want to get my book, Profitable Pilates, Everything but the Exercises because the first few chapters are really actually talking about what you need to ask when it comes to becoming a teacher. So you pick the right program. As you're asking, like, how do I find a teacher trainer? Or sorry, a teacher that can train me as a human being who just wants to practice Pilates and be an all around practitioner? Well, this is complicated.Brad Crowell 12:49  Well, before you keep going, if you're looking at that book, it's profitablepilates.com/bookLesley Logan 12:54  Oh, that's okay. So um, so here's, here's the thing. I did a video on YouTube, about like, the truth about Pilates. And in there I discussed like, what you should be looking for when it comes to a Pilates teacher, because I think it's extremely important that you are armed with how to how do I know that this person is the right teacher for me. And it doesn't mean how many years experience they have, but their foundation of their teaching is important. So looking for looking for a teacher who has a comprehensive training is going to be really awesome. And you're looking for things like in bio, you're looking for things to say comprehensive, or 450 hours or more in their bio. Now, you because I know a lot of people teach Matt and listen to this. Hold on. I fucking love you. That's how I got started. You're an amazing teacher, I bet you're the best at what you do. However, somebodyLesley Logan 13:51  wants me an all around practitioner, ideally, they have access to their equipment. So I'm not this is not a diss on you. It's just like answering all around practitioner question. As far as classical better than modern versus scientific.Lesley Logan 14:05  You will, that's going to be a little bit more of a personal like, like a personality style and also at finding the teacher that you feel sees your body best. I am a classical teacher. However, some of my friends are among the best contemporary teachers out there. Shout out to Erika, and Portia and Joy and all these people, Jessica Blount like all these people who are amazing at what they do, I would not say that I'm better or they're better than me based on the style. What makes a teacher the best for you is their curiosity in your body and how it's going and their ability to take you on a journey that makes you stronger than you were the day before. And so if your teacher is constantly telling you what not to do, they're counting a lot. They're overcorrecting, you feel like you do nothing correctly. That is not going to make you the best all around practioner. You are looking for people who can be a coach who can be a guide who encourage movement, and who are okay, letting you make mistakes and be on a journey. Brad is smiling, so I'm just gonna let him jump in.Brad Crowell 15:11  While I'm just laughing about our last episode where we were talking about cults. You know, these two episodes came back to back. (Brad: Back to back y'all.)Lesley Logan 15:22  But they're also right after the pastor, so Brad Crowell 15:26  Two pastors and former pastor in a row, Adrian and then Nikole. (Lesley: I know.) Yeah. (Lesley: And then neither, they're not pastors anymore. Anyways.) No, but yeah, I was gonna say, I think that, you know, there's a weird, there's a weird there's a weird what's the right word? It's, you know, acceptance, that in restaurants that the chef is a tyrant. There's a weird acceptance that in the dance world that the teacher is so hard and harsh and crazy. And I think that all those people can go fuck themselves. Because that's bullshit. And in the Pilates world, if you end up with a teacher who is, is like, this is the only way everyone else is wrong, then that they they're wrong. They are 100% wrong. And I will happily tell them that. Lesley Logan 16:28  And that happens on both sides of the contemporary and classical. I'll suppose it's not likeBrad Crowell 16:33  It's not Yeah, that happens. That like the reality that was happening in that scenario is that they are creating division in the Pilates community. (Lesley: It happens in yoga.) It happens in yoga, happens, it totally happens in yoga. I mean, I, I experienced that personally. But it happens to Pilates. And I think it's the worst thing that we can be doing to ourselves in this industry, is because we're creating the division in this industry. And it's wrong. It's wrong. Lesley Logan 17:03  And also like, it doesn't allow either the client nor teacher to be on a journey to learn. And so I don't you ask about scientific and I'll say this, I know anatomy. I have studied it. In fact, it was a big part of my major before I switched majors, I have taken more than my fair share of anatomy classes. I don't use anatomical terms ever when I teach. And it's not because I don't know them. It's because in Pilates the whole body should be working. So I'm not going to talk to your rhomboids. Because I'm not going to talk to your Supersprint anus, I'm not going to talk to your prehensile whatever. I don't know if you do that this is not a knock on you, if that works for you. But that is when as my teacher Jay Grimes, he said in Joseph's Pilates studio he never once heard an anatomical term, the body was to move. And so you to find a teacher or an or teacher trainer, who it's not about letting people just be sloppy, it's about letting the body tell you what it means. If you let a body move without being micromanaged. And this is what I work with my photos and my mentorship eLevate, the body, if you let the body move, and you just watch it, it's going to tell you what it needs. It's going to tell you where it's getting hung up. And then you get to ask yourself, Where else can I help them? Where can I do this? Where should we go right now? And you get to be this curious person.Brad Crowell 18:30  I just want to say that the exactly the curiosity. I wasn't there clearly wasn't alive when Joseph Pilates was creating different pieces of equipment. But that curiosity is what kept him saying, Hmm, this person isn't getting the thing. So what if I made another piece of equipment that would help isolate the thing or do the thing, right? I mean, if you go back and you look at the different, like, go go to Balanced Body go to like go to their library, Ken Andelman has been collecting schematics and like history of Pilates for decades. Right? So, Ken Andelman has been collecting, you know, all these schematics and everything for years. And they all have different, they're all slightly different. He kept changing and modifying and changing and changing and changing. Right. So, you know, he didn't I don't even I can't put words in his mouth. But I would imagine that there wasn't one way to do the thing. Right, because he kept making new pieces of equipment to do the thing.Lesley Logan 19:43  Well, yeah. And yes, and yes. Yes.Brad Crowell 19:47  To get to the point to where he wanted them to be.Lesley Logan 19:50  Yeah. No, like, if you couldn't do it on the reformer. He would take you to the Cadillac, correct? Yes, yes. Correct. Yeah, I think that's a great point. So anyways, to answer your question, It's there's no easy way to find the right teacher for you except to take from different teachers until you find one that you really like. But watch that video that I made on the truth about Pilates, and ask your teacher questions. And if you feel like you're never good enough, then find a different teacher. If you are wanting to be a teacher, then go read my book, because the questions I give you are going to be really awesome for helping you for helping you find the right program that can make it the teacher you want to be.Brad Crowell 20:28  Yeah, I mean, I not having gone down this path personally. But having edited this book, the questions that you ask, allow the reader to look ahead in the future and say, What do I actually want to do with my Pilates career? And then that question and the questions around in those first three chapters will actually allow you to say, well, maybe this isn't the right program for me, or maybe this is the right program for me. And it will equip you with the questions to ask the teacher training program. So that you know what you're actually getting. Yeah, so yeah.Brad Crowell 21:04  All right. Now let's talk about Rebecca Zung. Rebecca Zung is an attorney turned educator who specializes in teaching individuals how to negotiate with narcissists, drawing from her personal experience and professional expertise, and has authored the book Slay the Bully: How to Negotiate with a Narcissist, (Lesley: Which is out now you can go get it.) Yeah. fascinating conversation really made me think about my life and my experience with just people in my life.Lesley Logan 23:11  So here is what I fucking loved. I loved it so much. Like, I don't even need to talk about the rest of the episode why you should watch you should watch and listen to all of it. But I love this. She said they, narcissists, don't attach themselves to you. Because you have so little value. They attach themselves to you because you have so much value. And so if you're like, well, I have these fucking narcissists in my life. Oh my god, I'm like stuck with another narcissist. It's, it's because you're so fucking awesome. And they see how they can utilize that. And I think that is a little what the most important thing to consider because we can get so down on ourselves if we dated another narcissist, or we keep getting sucked into a narcissist in our family or we keep working for one and we can't stop it's because it's, it's not because it's you. Like, it's not your fault that you're fucking awesome. You just have to also like you actually just have to figure out how to recognize the signs and how to exit yourself out of those things. Boundaries are amazing.Brad Crowell 24:13  Yeah, I think like speaking from personal experience, having like inadvertently surrounded myself with narcissists most of my life you know, I always appreciated the idea of being the person behind the person I was that's what how we saw myself. (Lesley: Am I a narcissist?) No, I don't think so. That's the thing. Lesley Logan 24:34  Well that but that's because you like the person you're the person behind this person most of the time. You are doing that, if you keep doing that, am IBrad Crowell 24:42  But because of my operational, all that kind of stuff, right? Like, my like, that's my you know, that's my zone of genius is being able to do the operations I but I needed to do an operations for someone right. And so oh, I ended up working for a narcissist. being best friends with a narcissist being having business partners, like all this kind of stuff. And the reality is, (Lesley: Cause you're so fucking awesome.) Well, thank you. Thank you. That's what my point was ultimately is I'm awesome. No, that's not my point. I appreciate that, babe, you're amazing. Now the point is it wasn't on purpose. No, you know, I, you know, and but but I also didn't really understand what was happening. And unfortunately, those relationships ended badly. You know, where things ended up in like, like, like explosions and fireworks.Lesley Logan 25:41  I guess I didn't What I didn't ask her maybe, is like, can you even in a relationship with a narcissist without a name badly? Like, it's kind of hard. Like, I think as a person who cares? I think you're always going to feel like it didn't end. They're never gonna let you let it end well.Brad Crowell 25:56  Oh, well, it didn't end the way I wanted them. Yeah, I didn't actually want the relationships to end. Yeah. Right. And you know, but there was there was something like, inate like, in me, like that was like, I got to a point where I was like, I can't do the thing anymore, whatever the thing is that needed to happen. And whether, you know, personal, work, business, whatever, like there was, it was like, it was guttural. It was like revolt revulsion to continue down this path. And I couldn't understand it myself. And I really struggled with it for a long time. Because I actually had, you know, I cared for these people. And that was really, really challenging. And but I, you know, and I think that the thing of not blaming yourself, that's hard to do, you know, because you walk away from a relationship that just hand grenaded and you're like, What did I do wrong?Lesley Logan 26:52  Yeah. And she said, you can't actually blame yourself. They're really good at this. Like they're, they're really, really good at what they do. Because they've been, it's, it's part of like, how they became a person in this world. So it's like, this is their habit. And they, if you go back and listen to the whole episode, there's not a single cult leader who's not a narcissist, like they need people who are wanting to make this world a better place to put them up on a pedestal and help them achieve whatever it's they want. So I think like, I think we've every single person listening, this has probably experienced or is experiencing currently a relationship with a narcissist that they're stuck on and having a hard time with. And go listen to this episode, because she's amazing. (Brad: Yeah, it was a great episode) and then probably read her book. And then you have got to get out of like, this is your fault. And that like you did something wrong, and instead start to take the steps to put boundaries up. One of the things I remember one of the reasons why I want to have her on the episode of the show, like, because how do you be till you see it, if you've like, got sucked in with a narcissistic relationship? It is because the only thing you can be is what they need you to be because they're just gonna keep doing it. Right. And she, she's just got some really great actual steps. It's like, when you're working with a narcissist, you're never gonna win the argument. So if they emailed you a list of things you did wrong, like, emailing them back all the ways that wasn't wrong is not they're not gonna go okay. Like you just have toBrad Crowell 28:25  It doesn't fucking matter. I used to get these crazy fucking emails in all caps and red letters from my boss. (Lesley: That's so weird. I can't even read that really well, it just looks like it's screaming at you.) No, but I would. I would. I was just like, changed it read to just emphasize Oh, yeah, dude. Yeah, it was like it was him shouting was what it was through emails. Right. And at first, I was like, oh, man, (as if the all caps didn't) but it got to the point where it was so fucking often I just ignored it. I was like, This is him venting about a thing that I can't solve. And so whatever, you know, and I don't think that benefited our relationship. Lesley Logan 29:02  But actually it benefited you. And also, like she even said, like this one thing that here's one of the things that Rebecca Zung said, you don't you're not going to, no evidence is going to prove that you are right. So you have to if you have to respond back, it needs to be like the time like the simplest sentence. Okay, we'll talk about it at 10:30 on Thursday. Right? Like not going point by point with them because that's what they want you to do. And that's how you always lose. Yeah, you will not win that Yeah. And even with one of the relationships that ended with you and a friend who's a narcissist, that's what they wanted. They wanted to go point by point like this happened on this day and they did this this happened on this and it's like, yeah, all those things happen the way that he thought they happened, but we don't need to go point by point the culmination the culmination of it all is that like, this isn't working and you've been abusive towards me and period. Yeah. Anyways, I just I I want to reiterate that one more time. You are not, you did not put your you are not the reason. There's nothing wrong with you everything about you, it's why they attach themselves to you. So you just need to really recognize the signs of when a narcissist is coming your way. Brad Crowell 30:15  It's not your fault that you're in a relationship with the narcissist. Lesley Logan 30:18  No, they're really fucking good at that. She said it she's the expert. Okay, what did you love?Brad Crowell 30:22  Yeah, love is relative here. But the thing that really struck me was getting out of a relationship with a narcissist is challenging and accusatory and personal and emotional. And she said, when she shared the wisdom from she had a business coach and a guru who, ironically guru from last week, but she said her business coach, what said, listen, it's not what the narcissists say. It's how it lands for you. Meaning you cannot take it personally. You can't. It's if you do, you will destroy yourself. You know, and what she started to talk about, which I thought was really interesting, was agreeing with how the narcissist feels without agreeing to the narcissist's point. Right, and, you know, so if you've ever been in a relationship with someone who has borderline personality disorder, you know, or is a narcissist, it's the same thing. Like, you need to acknowledge how they're feeling. And they're allowed to feel the feels. But what they're saying is, might not actually be reality, and may not be true. And so if you listen to what they're saying, then and personalizing it, you know, it may really, really, really hurt you. But you can't let you cannot take it personally. Right. She talked about the Four Agreements, take nothing personally in the Four Agreements. Right. And, you know, you the way to have a conversation and to like, I don't know, I think her book is about winning an argument, right? Lesley Logan 32:25  She has, she has another like, she has other stuff out about winning arguments. Brad Crowell 32:30  Yeah. Okay. And, and basically, you know, you have to acknowledge what they're feeling in order for them to, like, take a pause. And so like, Hey, I understand what you're saying. And I understand how this makes you feel. Yeah. And then you get to move on. And that allows you to not take it personally. Yeah. And that's challenging to do. It's really, really hard to do. Lesley Logan 32:52  I think like, what really, this is, like, y'all, if you are really good at your boundaries, it's really hard for a narcissist to take over. Because like your boundaries, using your boundaries, in the beginning relationship will let people know, like one of my clients, she is so friggin like badass about like, she tells a job. She's like, I actually don't work more than eight hours in a day. You don't pay me to do that. Salary does not mean I overworked myself. She doesn't tell them in the interview, she waits until she's hired. And as soon as they do that, she's like, Hey, I've noticed over the last three days, the amount of meetings you've had me in have required me to have caused me to not really get my work done in the day. I would just like you to know that because if you're gonna keep putting me in six hours of meetings, and I have six hours of work, I mean, they're not gonna get the work done. Not gonna be the meetings. And they'll often like, oh, well, like you're part of the team. She's like, I am on this team. And being part of this team means the amount of work I can give you eight good hours a day. And I'm like, Are you like, both was a part of as like, oh my god, like, are you gonna get in trouble? Brad Crowell 33:57  Are you gonna get fired, likeLesley Logan 33:58  It's not what I get paid to do. (Brad: That's true.) That's not it. Yeah. And so like, so she has crazy bosses and, and like she does not let them push her around. And she doesn't let them abuse her time. So it makes it really hard for them to push these like narcissistic things on her because she's like, that's a boundary. I don't let people cross.Brad Crowell 34:20  It was it took me years to get to that point at my job. Where, oh, where my boss would like, what? What threat? Well, he would just hit drop. Do you remember the right hand grenade into a conversation of like, what about this thing that like we haven't talked about in four months?Lesley Logan 34:37  We were at a dinner, and he threw a hissy fit on a cell phone password. And like he was texting you. It was like very early on in our relationship. It was something about his daughter's cell phone. It has nothing to do with you. It's like not even your job. There's like someone else who does this. And he was like having a hissy fit about this whole thing. And we had to go. We're at dinner. Like there's nothing you can do. about this. Brad Crowell 35:00  Yeah, like what I would do in the meetings, like what I got to the point of because I was tired of getting gray hairs was, I got to the point of saying, hey, yesterday, you asked me to do this. Today, I blocked out time to do this. And what you're telling me today is priority is going to affect the thing you asked me to do yesterday. So I am super happy to do either one. You tell me which one is priority, and I will get that done. I think it will take me four hours to do this project and six hours into this project, your call. And when I got black and white with the amount of fucking time it would take to do the things that he was asking me to do. All of a sudden, my life became a whole lot easier. Because it's he's like, it's funny. It's not unreasonable when you put it that way. But he's unreasonable if you don't, because the expectation is, you're just gonna get it all done. Right. And if you actually spell out what that means, and you're not being angry or confrontational about it, you let them make the decision, then I was able to actually survive the intensity of it. Because I effectivelyLesley Logan 36:08  You just kind of disarmed them. You like,Brad Crowell 36:12  yeah, let him make the decision. You tell me, man, I'll do whatever you want. You know.Lesley Logan 36:16  That's such a great gift. I think, you know, then again, it comes to boundaries, though. Brad Crowell 36:20  Yeah, that was, it took me four or five years to get to the point where I was like, I can't fucking work till two in the morning when I'm at home anymore. Not doing it. So yeah.Lesley Logan 36:30  Yeah. Anyways, oh, she also. You also like had, I just want to say like, hurt people hurt people. I think that's a really important thing to add in here. Before you go to the Be It Action Items. Like, you know, it'sBrad Crowell 36:45  She said, people treat you the way that they see themselves. Yeah. You know, and that's part of that, like, the one if they're lashing out and being accusatory about something, you know, it's very likely that that's how they see themselves.Lesley Logan 37:00  Yeah. I just, I mean, like, my goodness, we'll have to have her back. But we all need to read her books. And then we can have her back, BookBub. Just, I, it's, you know, it's so easy for those who are listening to this you. I felt years ago, I remember driving so I was in Orange County. And I remember hearing the guy who was probably a narcissist actually. From Do you remember on MTV, like there was there was a they had a show. It was like a nightly radio show. And it was with Oh my God, it was the doctor who Oh, my gosh, there's two guys.Brad Crowell 37:34  I was definitely not allowed to watch MTV. Lesley Logan 37:36  I was in college, but there was you guys. Somebody shout it out (inaudible). They're like (Brad: Drew Pinsky.) Yes. Drew, Dr. Drew, and it was this. They had a late-night radio show that would also air on MTV. And it was with I can't think of his name. I think it's a big forehead and he ended up with his own late-night show (Brad: Loveline.) I used to love Adam Carolla. Yes. I mean, yeah, I don't think he's I think they I think both have been canceled or at least one anyways, um, Dr. Drew was in an interview way back. This was a radio show so it was like this is way before podcast you guys I was in Orange County it's in college. And he said that there was an increased this is what there was no Instagram there's no Tiktok there's no snap that at the time it was like just MySpace. And like Facebook was like barely a blip on our screen. Just like MySpace right? And at that time he said social media is causing this increased narcissistic behavior. (Brad: Hmm.) And now it is insane like some of my friends I would consider it like a narcissist in a weird way just because the way they like see themselves and the way they do things. They're not a narcissist to me because like, they see me as like an equal with them and like, you know, I've got boundaries. But at any rate, there's putting yourself out there as as this person who knows these answers these things, it's really easy to either become a cult leader or at the very least slightly be a narcissist and so it's it's because of the way the world is causing us to put ourselves out there. That's like, you can be raised like this and I also think parenting so so I just I really wanted to have her on because in being until we see it, if you are sucked into a relationship with a narcissist, they will cause you every single day to not be the person you want wanting to be. Brad's got the facial look, he's looking something up. Are you just discovered loveline in this moment?Lesley Logan 37:47  No, I just decided to search for does social media increase narcissism (Lesley: And when did they say?) well I don't know the study or whatever. This is just a LinkedIn post but the answer is yes. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if it's I don't know who backed it up. But you know, there's there's like (inaudible).Lesley Logan 40:00  Do social media create narcissism or are narcissists attracted to social media? Interesting.Brad Crowell 40:05  That's another question.Lesley Logan 40:08  I'm sure there's a study, someone could send it to us, okay.Brad Crowell 40:13  All right. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold executable intrinsic are targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Rebecca Zung?Lesley Logan 40:24  Are you going first?Brad Crowell 40:25  I'm gonna go first. So, she said she talked about the three approach, which she said are step one, don't run from the narcissist. Step two, make a U turn. And step three, break free. Right? So step one, she advises you to start creating boundaries unless it was talking about that this entire episode. Such as you cannot speak to me that way. Or, like your client said, I'm happy to do that tomorrow. But it's after six o'clock. Right? So observe the situation. The hardest part of it is to like, be objective, not subjective, right? Subjective means it's what you're feeling objective is what a third party would feel. She says she emphasized that it's not not to feel bad about choices made in survival mode, you know, because it's so weird. Thinking back to my experience, where I finally drew boundaries, where I said, six o'clock is my line. I'm not working after six o'clock. And that took me years to get to that point. Then I got a phone call one time. And I was about to go live on a show. I was hosting a show. (Lesley: Oh, yeah. You used to have a radio show.) Yeah, I used to have a TV radio show on the internet. And 10 minutes before we were about to go live. I got some fucking dumb, bullshit, like, explosion, unnecessary thing that had to be resolved that exact second with my immediate boss who was reporting to the owner. And I basically told him, I can't do it. And he freaked out on me. And I said, I will call you tomorrow. I'm about to go live. I cannot be having this conversation right now. You're fucking with my headspace. I have to do what I'm doing in my life. And my life is not my job. And that was like, he basically wrote me off after that conversation. And like, you know, and but he couldn't fire me because the boss wouldn't let him. But it was the first time that I ever actually drew a line in the sand. You know, so. And I actually felt like that was survival mode, because that's not my normal. I don't usually like confrontation don't usually get into confrontation. And that was the that was the very beginning of what I started to embrace confrontation in that job. Because in order to get out, I had to start being confrontational. So you know, I like that. She says, don't feel bad about the choices you make in survival mode. Step, you're gonna need fucking counsel also after that.Lesley Logan 43:00  Sidenote. I saw someone the other day, like, Oh, my God, I'm so sorry. Like the pandemic. I just got in touch with you. And I was like, you know, apologies for not staying in touch with people during the pandemic, period. End of story. Yeah. Everybody in the world was in survival mode. Absolutely. No apologies. I'm not worried about it. If you have been staying away from me for a year, because you've been embarrassed about that. Please. No.Brad Crowell 43:26  Yeah, she said, step two is to make a U turn. Right. And she started explaining her slay method, which I thought was super fun, which is strategy, leverage, anticipate, and then you focus on you. Right? So strategy, you can't start creating a strategy until you set those boundaries. Step one, right. It involves creating a vision, a goal and action steps in your life, you need to understand what you actually want for you. Because if you don't know what you want for you, you're going to just we asked their vision.Lesley Logan 43:58  That's the whole thing, right? Like, they'll say, like, if you don't have goals, someone else will make sure you have a goal. (Brad: That's right.) So like, that's just how it goes, yeah.Brad Crowell 44:05  Then you need to, you know, then you need to identify what leverage you may have in the situation. For me, what I was getting out of my job quitting that job, like he used to sue people who would quit. So how did I quit without getting fucking sued That was I remember that that was a big, it was insane. Right? How do you get out of that? Right? And knowing that it was such a cult, it was, oh, there's no question. But what I realized is that the number one priority for him was family. So I leveraged my family. So step, so part of the slay method is leverage. And I leveraged my family and my appeal to him when I left was my wife is starting a business. And I need to support her in that business. Every single thing he ever said to me for the years that I worked for him was why he does things for his family. And he could not say, you can't do that, because he's stands for family. So I leveraged that that was the leverage I had in that situation. (Lesley: You're so smart.) Took me a long time to figure it out. I appreciate that. Number three part third part A is anticipation be two steps ahead of the narcissist understand what type of narcissist you're dealing with covert, grandiose or malignant. I don't know the difference between those three, I didn't look those up. (Lesley: She goes into those, I think in her book.) In her book, she talks about them, so it's worth reading. And then finally, why is focusing on you prioritizing your mindset shift from being on the defensive to being on the offense. And that, you know, it was like, it just took, it actually took me getting to a breaking point of like, I can't keep living like this, I'm gonna die, to get to the point where I was like, I need to prioritize me, then I started setting boundaries, right, then I started trying to play on my escape, effectively, right. And that leads to step three, which is breaking free. The true breaking free is understanding that there will always be narcissists in this world. So if and when you extricate yourself from the situation you may be in right now, which could be a mom could be, you know, a sibling, could be a boss, it could be a partner, a business partner, you know, like, the reality is, there are narcissists. And now that, you know, it will be easier to identify them in the future. But again, having somebody to talk to about it, is going to really benefit you. So what about you?Lesley Logan 46:24  So I love this, she said. She said, If there's only one thing she could leave people with is that you alone define your value. You alone define your value. So you have to, you have to like and that's that can be really hard. Like she talked about a story of how like, she was like afraid that she's gonna be seen as inconsistent or a flake. Because her her jobs like took her all over the map. And her coach said, Well, you can let people see you as a flake, or you can present your self as the attorney who has a financial background.Brad Crowell 47:01  Yeah. So she went from being an attorney to a finance, like consultant like, like personal finance consultant back to being an attorney. Yeah. And she she said, I'm, I feel like people are looking at me like you just jump around. What are you even doing?Lesley Logan 47:15  Yeah. And she, but because she had that experience. Now she's the like, she's the best attorney who's got that experience. And so she can really see things from a different place. By the way, she didn't have any Yeah, she has like the number one like divorce firm. Like, she's like one of the like, it's fucking amazing.Brad Crowell 47:28  One of the top firms in Florida and she was, you know, some of her clients were billionaires.Lesley Logan 47:34  Which, when you're doing divorce, you gotta know the finances real Well, anyways, she said, people will think what we tell them to think, right? I mean, this goes back to like, the most certain person in the room wins. So she said, like, how you show up is everything. This is being it until you see it, guys, this is being it till you see it. Your presentation and demeanor dictates how people perceive and interact with you. So here's the deal. This is something oh my god, I'm so grateful I was in debate team in college, and my in my speech in debate classes. They said, if you make a mistake in a speech, don't acknowledge it. No one knows you made a mistake until you say, Oh, I forgot to say or I wanted to say, oh, I want to do this. That's right. Just either if you can find a way to add it back in somewhere else than do or just leave it out. And like that is a kind of a thing. Like when I am presenting workshopsBrad Crowell 48:27  It takes thinking on your feet to do that. Lesley Logan 48:28  It really does. I when I'm presenting workshops, like of course, if I'm not looking, if I don't have my notes in my hand, I'm going to go off the roadmap and go, Oh, I forgot this. And I don't say Oh, I forgot this. I say oh, I want to make sure we do this or hey, let's actually take a moment to talk about this. Some sort of way segue to bring that topic in. Because if I go oh man, I forgot this. Oh my like, how, like, when I was in retail, I had this one guy who worked for me. And he had a lot of shit going on his life. And at one point, he was like, in between housing, all this stuff. I was really worried about him. You would never know. Because he said when he crossed the threshold from the marble of the mall to the oh my god, there's like a special kind of like a tile tile. It's like yeah, like travertine tile. He like came in and he he told himself as soon as he went from the shiny marble floor to the travertine tile, he would go it's showtime. And he and it's and he would just do it show time and that would let him know that in this moment how I let people see me and so people you guys he ended up getting a job as one of the like highest managers and LVHM store which is like one of the stores like for Louis Vuitton, you know Balenciaga, Bulgari-owned store so hard to get a job in one of those companies, let alone a manager right off the bat. And it's because he decided how they're going to perceive him. He was really good he did. But his resume might not have gotten that job, but he told them how he wanted to be perceived. And I think that's so important. You can you can walk into an interview or you can meet a new client and you can act like oh my God, I hope they liked me or you can go, they're fucking gonna like me. Here's how I show up. Here's how much I'm worth and be really clear about that. Anyways, August is on the show right now, if you're watching on YouTube, because he is just having a needy moment. He's having a day guys. But I hope that this episode really helps give you permission to like, be an amazing human being and not blame yourself for the shit the narcissists you've let in your life. And also that she helps you guide you to getting narcissists out of your life. I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 50:42  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 50:43  Thank you so much for listening, and we want to know how you use these tips in your life tag Rebecca Zung. She will love to hear if you bought her book. Let her know and us know what your favorite takeaways were. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 50:55  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 50:56  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. 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