Podcast appearances and mentions of jeremy pound

Oct. 2, 2024 In this episode, host Pete Neubig sits down with Jeremy Pound, RentScale's CEO and a leading expert in business development for property managers. They dive deep into effective strategies for hiring and compensating business development associates, emphasizing the importance of market research and tailored compensation models. With invaluable insights and practical tips, this conversation equips listeners with the tools they need to elevate their property management business.

There was a recent event where the stock market plunged. Some are speculating about an impending recession. We're seeing the real estate market downturn in real time…  In today's episode of the #DoorGrowShow, property management growth experts Jason and Sarah Hull talk about the impact the current real estate market and economic downturn will have on property management businesses. You'll Learn [02:10] The current state of the economy [10:00] The real estate market and leasing challenges [21:07] Having empathy in property management [25:03] Real estate investing in a recession Tweetables “In every single recession, new millionaires are made and this is an opportunity for that to happen.” “Those that have built that ark so to speak, like Noah did, are prepared for the storm. They're ready. They're just going to float through it instead of drown.” “We always have to remember that property management is a relationship business.” “One of the most magical, impactful ingredients that you wouldn't think has an impact in getting people to move or do things or to take action is empathy.” Resources DoorGrow and Scale Mastermind DoorGrow Academy DoorGrow on YouTube DoorGrowClub DoorGrowLive TalkRoute Referral Link Transcript [00:00:00] Sarah: If you want to be in doom and gloom and "the sky's falling and I'm never going to make any money" then you're absolutely right. But if you want to look at the opportunity that is staring you in the face and say, "what can I do with this and how can I capitalize on this?" that is where millions are made.    [00:00:16] Jason: Welcome DoorGrow property managers to the DoorGrow show. If you are a property management entrepreneur that wants to add doors, make a difference, increase revenue, help others, impact lives. And you are interested in growing in business and life. And you're open to doing things a bit differently, then you are a DoorGrow property manager. DoorGrow property managers love the opportunities, daily variety, unique challenges, and freedom that property management brings. Many in real estate think you're crazy for doing it. You think they're crazy for not, because you realize that property management is the ultimate, high trust gateway to real estate deals, relationships, and residual income. At DoorGrow, we are on a mission to transform property management business owners and their businesses. We want to transform the industry, eliminate the BS, build awareness, change perception, expand the market, and help the best property management entrepreneurs win. We're your hosts, property management growth experts, Jason and Sarah Hull, the owners of DoorGrow. [00:01:22] Now let's get into the show. All right.  [00:01:27] Sarah: That was good multitasking there.  [00:01:29] Jason: You saw that? See.  [00:01:30] Sarah: I saw that. That was one time of you multitasking. So you are capable of it.  [00:01:35] Jason: That was hard, but I had that part of the intro memorized. I was putting my phone on do not disturb as I was reading and she decided to call it out. It's hard, right guys? It's hard for us to multitask. Women have us beat in this area.  [00:01:49] Sarah: Oh, yeah. Yeah, we dominate you here.  [00:01:52] Jason: Yeah, your brains are just wired differently, but we have that singular focus advantage. We can just cut everything else out and focus on one thing at a time. [00:02:01] Sarah: Well, speaking of focusing on one thing at a time, let's get into the show.  [00:02:07] Jason: Yeah.  [00:02:07] Sarah: So we were going to talk about some doom and gloom today.  [00:02:10] Jason: Yeah. So we just saw the stock market tank, like a thousand points, right. Pretty wild. And friend of mine who runs a company, Jeremy Pound, he had mentioned, I saw his post online. [00:02:23] Shout out to Jeremy. He said, "now's the time to reach out to your real estate investor clients and say, 'Hey, look, your property didn't go down by a thousand points and never will,'" you know, something like that. So I thought that was clever. But yeah, real estate, probably a better investment right now than long term but a lot of investors are still in general freaking out. There's a recession that seems to be looming and coming or is already here depending on who you listen to. And so yeah, the sky is falling and chicken little's been shouting which is the news media and like everything bad is coming and so is this going to be how's this going to impact property management? [00:02:59] Might be a good question to start with.  [00:03:01] Sarah: Yeah, I think one of the things that we're already seeing is we have been seeing in many markets at least a decline in prices if you are trying to purchase a property right now. And we are no longer, no matter what market you're in, because some markets have still held pretty steady, no matter what market you're in, we're no longer in the days in which you list the property on a Monday, you get multiple offers and it's accepted for well over the list price the same day. [00:03:40] We're not in that situation any longer. So how does that affect property management? Well, on the real estate side, investors right now should be, if they're not, but they should be looking. Because things are on sale right now.  [00:04:00] Jason: Steals.  [00:04:01] Sarah: So as you think about what is your favorite store of all time? [00:04:06] Let's ask you, what's your favorite store ever?  [00:04:10] Jason: Amazon. Amazon. Okay, cool. I spend a lot of money there.  [00:04:12] Sarah: That's great. That's actually, you know, I wouldn't have thought of that. Because I don't, for my brain doesn't equate it to a store, but I guess it is.  [00:04:18] Jason: Okay.  [00:04:19] Sarah: I love it. I love Amazon. Okay, cool. Amazon. So if Amazon had a sale where everything was 30 percent off, would you probably buy some stuff? [00:04:29] Jason: Oh yeah, I'd buy a ton of stuff.  [00:04:31] Sarah: What if it was 55 percent off? 60. Oh. 70.  [00:04:36] Jason: No brainer. I would stock up on so much stuff.  [00:04:39] Sarah: You'd be like, "I don't even need this, but what if I do?"  [00:04:41] Jason: A million supplements. I would like.  [00:04:43] Sarah: Right.  [00:04:44] Jason: I'd be healthy set for the next year.  [00:04:46] Sarah: You'd be buying everything. So investors, this is your call. [00:04:48] Hello, real estate is on sale right now. So the savvy investors, they already know this. They're super excited right now. The savvy investors are not freaking out. The savvy investors. They know. This is where millions of dollars can be made and in fact in every single recession new millionaires are made and this is an opportunity for that to happen. [00:05:18] So people who are like the accidental investors and they've got that property they've been hanging on to and they're just waiting until the market gets hot enough and then they'll probably sell it. But in the meantime, I guess I'll hang on to it and rent it out. They're going to freak out right now. [00:05:36] They're going, "Oh my God, what if rents dip even more? What if vacancy rates are longer? So I can't fill a property or my property manager can't fill a property in a week like they used to be able to?" It was just churn them out and hurry up, get another one in there, find a warm body, put them in. They're like coming in droves. [00:05:54] That's not the situation anymore. And they will freak out. But the investors that understand the situation that we're in and the market at where it stands. Oh man, they are excited. Yeah, I'm excited right now. I'm like great tank, baby. Let's go . [00:06:12] Jason: So the big news out there like right now is Warren Buffett decided to sell off a ton of stock like half of his stake in Apple like some major things and he doesn't make very many moves, right? [00:06:24] He's like this minimalist in making Purchases or selling he's like he's the he's got the diamond hands, right? And He's now sitting on a cash stock pile 277 billion  [00:06:39] Sarah: billion with a b  [00:06:40] Jason: he's just hanging out with cash He's waiting for the bottom to hit because he knows he must know that things are going to get worse.  [00:06:47] Sarah: Because he's gonna go shopping. [00:06:50] Jason: Yeah, he's gonna he's definitely waiting to go shopping is my guess And so there's going to be some deals to be had And that may mean the real estate market could be getting worse. Could be getting a lot worse, perhaps. So, and if that's the case, then savvy investors right now should be stacking cash, right? [00:07:09] Property managers, you should be stacking cash because you should be a savvy investor. And looking for these deals. Now we've been through a recession before here at DoorGrow. Historically, what I've seen happen whenever there's a recession, the real estate market kind of dries up. Things get tough for real estate agents. [00:07:26] So a lot of real estate agents get squeezed out. So they find other jobs. And there's quite a few of them that think, "well, why don't I do property management?" And a lot of you listening, maybe during the last recession, that's what you did. You started a property management business. Maybe that's why you're now listening to this podcast and you have a property management business that you've probably, hopefully grown by since the last recession to at least 200 units or something, but maybe you haven't put enough focus on it. [00:07:53] Who knows. Those that have built that ark so to speak like Noah did are prepared for the storm. They're ready. They're just gonna float through it instead of drown. And you're going to see a lot of people scrambling to start property management businesses. That being said if you are a real estate agent, you're struggling you're like, "you know what? I don't really like the hunt and the chase of real estate buying and selling I would be really interested in property management," check out our foundations program. It's pretty great And it's super affordable. Hit us up, learn about DoorGrow Foundations. It's going to help you avoid thousands of dollars in costly mistakes and stupidity in getting started.  [00:08:33] Sarah: Since we're talking about avoiding costly mistakes, it would be a great time to talk about our sponsor.  [00:08:39] Jason: Cool. So, let's talk about Vendoroo. All right. Awesome new tech. Are you tired of the constant stress and hassle of maintenance coordination? Meet Vendoroo, your AI driven, in house maintenance expert that handles work orders from start to finish, triaging, troubleshooting, vendor selection and coordination. Built by property managers for property managers to provide cost effective and accountable maintenance operations where every dollar is accounted for and every task is handled with unmatched reliability. Vendoroo takes care of the details. So you can focus on growth schedule demo today at Vendoroo that's a vendor, V E N D O R O O like a kangaroo, get it? Dot AI. vendoroo.ai/doorgrow and experience maintenance done right. We've got some clients getting great results with that. [00:09:33] Yeah. So check that out. We're in an AI revolution right now.  [00:09:37] Sarah: Get in.  [00:09:38] Jason: We're hearing great things from our clients about this so far. I mean, it's been programmed for the last 12 years and has over half a million work orders already in it and never forgets any detail you tell it about the property and is intelligent. [00:09:53] And they put a human layer between that. So it's really cool. All right. Yeah. Back to the topic at hand.  [00:10:00] Sarah: Let's also talk about how things look right now in the property management world because you're like, "yeah, Sarah, things are on sale right now. Cool. But, man, it's just tough being a property manager right now. It's harder than it normally is." And a lot of times what we're seeing is again in certain markets right now is well rents are lower and that means property managers typically make less especially on that percentage part that you're charging so if the rent is 5, 000 versus if the rent is 1, 000, simple math will tell you, yes, you'll make less when the rents dip. [00:10:40] The other part of that is occupancy. So just like we used to be, what, two years ago, three years ago, we used to be able to list a property for sale and we would have multiple offers very quickly and it was no problem getting it sold. And the rental market has shifted a little bit as well. So we used to go, "Oh, we have a vacant property. Well, let's market it. And then we're going to have multiple applications and we'll get it filled really quick. It could be in a day. It could be in a week, but we know it's going to happen and we're not really worried." And now we're seeing that cycle take a little bit longer. So the rents are lower and the renting cycle of getting the applications and finding someone who's qualified, that is taking a little longer, so now it might take a few weeks. And if things are really bad, that might take a few months.  [00:11:38] Jason: So in some markets, vacancies are up right now, rents are lower, the rent cycle's taking longer, so leasing in general can be a bit more of a challenge. [00:11:47] And to be fair, a lot of property managers in the longterm rental management game, I've had it pretty easy, right? When you look at like multifamily stuff like this, 2020,  [00:11:58] Sarah: 2021, like none of y'all were complaining then, right? Super easy then.  [00:12:03] Jason: When you look at the multifamily industry, like getting tenants in place has always been a challenge in a lot of these multi family places And so they focus on this. [00:12:12] They're more aggressive. They put a lot more attention on this and so It may mean that you're going to need to put some greater attention on the leasing side of things to be a bit more competitive and a bit more aggressive to get these properties seen to get these properties like showed, to get these properties rented out. [00:12:33] So what are some things that they can do to kind of deal with this challenge with leasing right now?  [00:12:37] Sarah: Well, number one, I think the most important thing that you can do here is you may need to look at changing your processes depending on what they are in the leasing process, specifically regarding showings, right? [00:12:52] So if you're like, "well, we do two showings a week." This is how I used to do things. "I do two showings a week and one is at this day, this time. The other one is at this day, this time. This is when you can come and look at the property." Well, if we consistently aren't having anyone show up and then now all of a sudden we have someone who's interested and they can't make any of those showings, you may need to change your processes, right? So now we might need to look at "how can I offer more flexibility for someone who is qualified and interested? How can I offer more flexibility?" And that doesn't mean, "oh, I'm just going to be on call 24 hours a day as a leasing agent, and I'm just going to jump when somebody says, 'hey, I want to look at this property.'" [00:13:34] That is not what you're going to do. So, can we do self showings? Can we use electronic lock boxes? Can we have a team member just go to the property, unlock the door, stand and wait, and then lock it up? Because that's what I used to do, right? "Well, they have to be licensed." No one has to be licensed to unlock a door. [00:13:56] Unlock the door, stand there and wait, and lock up when they're gone. That does not require a license, right? So how can we offer more flexibility so that people who are interested are now able to go see the property when it's convenient for them? Because they might work 9 to 5. So 5:30 might be impossible because at 5:30 I'm stuck in traffic. Right. So I might need a 7 o'clock showing or a 7:30 showing, or I might need to do something on the weekend. But on the weekend, you know, I have all my kids stuff and soccer camp and all this stuff. So like finding those little spots that do work for them. "Well, great. What day and time would be good for you because I can see if I can fit you in" and, or if you have the electronic lock boxes that opens a whole host of availability. I think they shut off at a certain time. So you can't go at like midnight. Right? But, then you have a whole bunch of available slots. And they get to choose what's convenient.  [00:14:57] Jason: So, maybe even a step earlier, which I love the idea, like, you can start to be more flexible. [00:15:04] And maybe that could be helpful is just to get more eyeballs on properties maybe optimizing the listings and so there's several ways to optimize listings and a lot of property managers probably been a little bit lazy about this. Some companies put a lot of detail on this but this is a competitive advantage if you have better photos. We've had companies on like box brownie and others where they will improve or edit the photos there's so many ai tools now as well for photos and so if you can get your photos optimized and improved without lying without like, "Hey, look, the carpet and the walls are all perfect." And AI made it that way. And it looks like garbage, right? That is not going to like bode well for you. But yeah, if you are getting better photography, Improving and optimizing the listings, making sure the descriptions are really clear, adding video tours to these. One of the big things I would look at I loved seeing on any listings when we were looking to buy a rental property to rent out or anything. I love seeing the floor plans  [00:16:05] Sarah: That's so easy. [00:16:06] Jason: Just I love seeing the floor plans like then I could go "oh, this is how it all fits together. This is how it works," you know and all these photos that are taken from the corner with a wide angle lens and make everything look giant. That stuff's probably not serving you. It's not showcasing reality And so I think there's going to be a greater push with ai and fake humans and all this stuff, there's going to be a greater desire for humans to get reality. Everything's been fake news, fake everything, fake voting, fake food, right? Everybody's waking up to this So we need to stop trying to make everything look better than it is. We need to start showcasing reality. And so it might mean photos instead of wide angle from the corner, maybe more like we've done with our airbnb taking photos straight on. [00:16:52] Sarah: I think with Airbnb, that works really well. The types of photos I've put on our Airbnb, I would not.  [00:16:58] Jason: You wouldn't do on real estate?  [00:17:00] Sarah: What I would do though is I don't want to use the wide angle lens. That's going to make a little tiny closet look triple its size.  [00:17:08] Jason: Sure.  [00:17:08] Sarah: So that I think is something. [00:17:10] But still maybe from the corners. Yeah. And I would because when you're trying to either sell or rent a home, you are looking like, "Hey, imagine your family in here. Look how big the space is. Look how great it is. It's beautiful. Lots of light." But don't advertise there's lots of light if there's not lots of light, right? [00:17:27] So be realistic in it, but still do things to make it look attractive. That being said, a step even before the listing is really do some research in the market. What's available? "So, okay, this property, I can rent it out. I know what it looks like because I'm familiar with it, but this property is competing against other properties. What do the other properties in my market look like?" If all of the other properties have a swimming pool and you're the one without a swimming pool, you may have a problem, right? So if all of the other properties, they have certain amenities. You may need to look to see, "Hey, is it possible for us to also get these amenities?" [00:18:10] Right? So you might need to look at doing some updates to flooring, kitchens, bathrooms, and it may or may not be something that investors are able to invest in right now. But the important thing is, "Hey, this is in fact, an investment."  [00:18:29] Jason: Sure.  [00:18:29] Sarah: So right now, what we might need to do in order to be more attractive and in order to get those higher rents and in order to find a qualified tenant sooner, we might need to put some work into the property to make it look more attractive. [00:18:42] Now, right now that might seem really painful. However, it is an investment, which will give you an ROI on the property because even though rents are low right now, everything moves in cycles in real estate and the stock market. So we're at a low right now, but we're not going to stay there because if you recall, just two short years ago, it was booming. [00:19:08] So see how quickly things can change? So that means that in even two years from now, this can very easily be something that "Hey, rents have bounced back." And now this calls for a higher rent.  [00:19:24] Jason: So price is also going to be a factor right? And being able to get and convince your owners that "hey, we're going to need to drop the price. It's not just about cashflow in having a rental property." We've talked about our ROI calculator on previous episodes that have been helping clients close deals But being able to showcase the life the investment long term of the property, even if it's not cash flowing right now, it's still a good investment to keep can be effective and just getting the price low enough sometimes is what it takes to get at least out like that's always going to be a significant factor.  [00:20:01] Sarah: Absolutely.  [00:20:01] Jason: Related to that, our next sponsor is True Submeter. So with True Submeter, what's interesting about this is you have multi family properties and you're trying to fold the utilities into the rent and your rent looks higher on listings than other places where they're not including the utilities, then you are putting yourself at a disadvantage. [00:20:21] Here's a way to solve this. Attention, multifamily property owners and managers. Discover True Submeter, the number one water submetering company in the U. S. Say goodbye to water use abuse by your tenants and hello to billing for exact water consumption with no unit minimum. Enjoy smart, cost effective solutions designed to optimize your property's operations and save you money. Plus, get an exclusive 10 percent discount with the code DOORGROW10. That's DoorGrow one zero. Visit truesubmeter.Com today for intelligent utility solutions and substantial savings. That's truesubmeter.com [00:20:57] Another way, maybe to get the rent down, at least on the surface and the utility separate. All right. So, I think another factor in solving the leasing challenge... I've been studying sales a lot lately and one of the most magical, impactful ingredients that you wouldn't think has an impact in getting people to move or do things or to take action is empathy. [00:21:25] And so there are a lot of tenants that they will pick you, or pick getting a property from your business because you showed care, you showed empathy. You weren't an asshole. You weren't rude to them. You didn't make them feel unimportant or like a number and so just showing a little bit of care and showing a little bit of empathy is often the determining factor why somebody picks something over anything else. "Well, I got along better with them," or "they were nicer to me," or "they seemed like they actually cared and I could imagine them as a landlord" or "they answered their phone."  [00:21:58] Sarah: "They answered the phone when I called them, that was helpful." [00:22:01] Jason: And so adding in empathy or making sure that the people that are having, like working on the leasing and you know, showing the property and communicating with the tenants are team members that are feelers and are empathetic and show care would probably be a little bit more effective in getting placement would be my guess. [00:22:22] Sarah: One of our clients, I think he's outside of the Chicago area, Ed Kirch. He was saying in his area, there's like two, 300. New apartment buildings like being built and they're like large multifamily like apartment complex buildings. And then of course, they're not going to work with like a small mom and pop. [00:22:40] They're like, they're corporate owned. It's a big corporation that manages it.  [00:22:45] Jason: Yeah, they'll be brand new.  [00:22:47] Sarah: They're nice. They're pretty. And he said, "and sometimes the rents are either the same or even less than the units that we're managing." And he's like, "man, it's really hard to compete with that." And I said, "well, is it though?" [00:23:04] Because yes, there are always going to be the people who just want the bargain. They're like, "well, if this thing is $100 and this thing is $110, I'm going to go with this cheaper thing. Even if the $110 thing gets me better service, I don't care. I'm just all about the money." So if you're attracting those cheapo tenants, good luck managing those. [00:23:27] Have fun. Have fun with that. But if you're looking to attract great tenants, price is one factor, but it's not the only factor. So again, it's the relationship. And we always have to remember that property management is a relationship business because we have a relationship with the client and we have a relationship with the tenant. [00:23:51] So if one or both of those fails, it's going to be really hard for us then. So just by building that relationship and you do not need to be friends with them. You don't need to take them out for pizza and beer but just by being available to communicate with. Now again, don't go too far with this. [00:24:13] This does not mean you're at someone's beck and call 24 hours a day. "Oh, i'm going to be glued to my phone and as soon as somebody calls i'm going to answer right away." No, but it does mean that you are available. You are responsive. It's not a hundred percent of the time. Sometimes you might need to call someone back, but it's can they get in touch with you? And do they feel like 'I'm talking to a person who actually cares about me and my situation, or do I feel like I'm talking...' we've all had these conversations where you can just tell they're like, "hurry up. Come on, just sign the stupid application so I can be done with you and move on to the next thing that I'm doing. I don't really care at all, but I just want to make the money. So like, would you hurry it up here, sweetheart?" Right? So there's a big difference on how you're communicating with people as well. [00:25:03] Jason: Got it. So is there anything that you think will be shifting related to recession related to the owners? Like maybe money gets tighter for them. Inflation is going up. They're having a more difficult time paying for some of the repairs on the properties. Maybe it would make sense for some of the property managers now to be communicating with the owners, like, "Hey, set aside cash. Things are getting more expensive. Make sure you have the funds in order to take care of things related to this rental property, to weather this, you know. What do you think?  [00:25:31] Sarah: Yeah. I think that's fair for sure. I also think that, I mean, for me, that's always something that I do because I've been in situations where we needed a cash call and we had no cash available, so now we're really in hot water. So I do that anyway, but I think right now, especially just having those conversations like, "Hey, and just so you know, like this too shall pass. So you might not be in the best situation right now. Maybe cash flow is not happening. Maybe we're cash flow negative. But this too shall pass, right?" [00:26:06] So it, again, it comes in waves. It comes in cycles. And I think that's even more important at this point to discuss why investing on cash flow alone is just not a great strategy because if you buy a cash flowing property right now that can change in a year or two years or five years, right? [00:26:31] And vice versa. So right now you might buy it and it's not going to cash flow at all, but in two years or five years or eight years, then all of a sudden, "wow, we have a lot of cash flow happening." So everything comes in cycles, but it's important to understand cashflow is just one piece of the pie. It's not the entire pie. [00:26:48] Jason: Right. Like even great stocks will lose money in the short term.  [00:26:52] Sarah: Yeah, absolutely. And real estate is a long term game. It's not, "I'm going to buy it today and sell it tomorrow and bank a million dollars." [00:27:00] Jason: Yeah.  [00:27:01] Sarah: Can you do that in certain situations? Absolutely. But is that going to be the normal experience that people have? No.  [00:27:09] Jason: Okay.  [00:27:10] Sarah: So I think yes, talking with your owners about the other pieces of the pie or pieces of the equation. "Well, let's look at the tax benefits that you get," right? Because a lot of times people don't even understand really what it means to be able to take your losses, losses on paper, from real estate to apply them to your active W 2 income. [00:27:38] So you can pay less in taxes just by owning a real estate, a piece of real estate. That's amazing, right? You're getting the depreciation. You're getting appreciation because even if it's not appreciating currently, it will over time appreciate. Every property over time appreciates. [00:27:55] It's just a general rule of thumb. So it might take a couple years to get the appreciation, but you will get it. And now you're building up equity in an asset that you can tap into later. And if your tenants are paying some or all of your mortgage for you, that's amazing. Where else can you get something where you're going to take out a loan on something, but somebody else is going to pay that loan for you? [00:28:21] Even if it's not all of it. Even if your mortgage is 2, 400 a month and you're like, well, the 1022, but then I have some other expenses on top of it. That's great. They're still paying a large chunk of your mortgage for you. And again, things change. So right now that might be your situation and you might not cashflow and that can change very quickly in the future. [00:28:43] Because again, back in 2020, 2021, people were cashflow and really great, especially if they had bought. If you buy in a dip and then things spike, you're sitting pretty.  [00:28:55] Jason: So maybe to sum it up with your existing owners, now is the time to help them build their ark right before the storm hits. With the intention for yourself to protect your portfolio, to protect your rent roll and to make sure that you keep that up and as healthy as possible. And You know, and look into, you know, there may be investors you have in your portfolio clients that you have that they're sitting on a bunch of cash. They're waiting for the deals to happen. And then you have investors that they're like kind of struggling. They're already like kind of the straw that breaks the camel's back might like float down and land on their back like any moment now. And so there may be opportunities to keep the properties in your portfolio, but move them over. [00:29:39] I've been hanging out a bit with the the founder of a blanket, which is a cool platform. Maybe we'll have them on the podcast here shortly, but there's different methods to keep your portfolio, even if the owners are changing. So you keep the properties. And so that's some things to be strategically thinking about as well. [00:29:58] So, well, I think we've covered several things. Is there anything else to prepare people listening for the doom and gloom, get them maybe focused on the positive.  [00:30:08] Sarah: Just in the height of the market, one of the strategies I used was tapping into my current investors. Is, "are you looking to pick up more properties?" Can I partner, you know, two or three investors together so that they're able to get more properties? And anyone who's looking to get out, can I shift that to someone else in my portfolio? And to get referrals. Like, "Hey, this is going well for you. Do you know anybody else that might be interested in doing this or might want to purchase a investment property or have already an investment property?" [00:30:42] So, and that, in the height of the market, that worked really well for me. So right now they would work even better. It would work even better. So even if you're like, "well, I only have like 20 clients and that's it." Plenty. That is plenty. You have an untapped gold mine. So if you want to be in doom and gloom and the sky's falling and "I'm never going to make any money and rent rolls are down and vacancies are longer and my investors aren't interested and people are losing money and I'm going to make less and oh, this sucks..." [00:31:18] Then you're absolutely right. That is the situation that you're going to create for yourself. But if you want to look at the opportunity that is staring you in the face and say, "what can I do with this and how can I capitalize on this?" that is where millions are made. So you can choose what you do with this weird time that we're in right now. [00:31:38] I know what I'm going to do.  [00:31:40] Jason: You know, during the Great Depression, some of the greatest companies were made. It was the companies that decided to double down on their marketing efforts doubled down on their growth experts and not put their head in the sand and freak out that the world and the sky is falling and so choose your frame I think sums up what Sarah's saying. [00:31:59] I think it's great mindset. Choose your frame. Either you're going to believe in the opportunity and see all the positives. Why is this positive? Figure that out or you're going to view this as a threat, be scared, kind of tighten up, And you're going to watch some people make a lot of money and pass you by and stack a lot of doors. [00:32:19] There's going to be a lot of opportunity for growing a property management business. I think a lot. So, and if you want to capitalize on that, reach out to us at DoorGrow. And I think that's that's it for today. So until next time to our mutual growth, everyone. And if you are interested in connecting with us, you can reach us at DoorGrow. com or check out our free online facebook group community at DoorGrow club. com. And we'll give you some free gifts for joining. And hopefully you'll get on a call and chat with us and we can figure out if we can help you grow and scale your business significantly. So until next time, to our mutual growth. Bye everyone. 

Welcome Closers! Jordan's back with another episode of the Profitable Property Management Podcast. Join him & Jeremy Pound, CEO of RentScale + publisher of Strategic PM, as they dive into a variety of topics, including: setting & aiming at specific goals to grow your business, leadership & coaching, two exciting events happening in Austin, TX the first week of December - LeadSimple University and RentScale Sales Mastery Live, and more.“The faster you want to grow, the faster you want to pulse.” - Jeremy Pound on what's required to increase the velocity of your company's growth. Tune in to learn more about the “how”.Quick Links: LeadSimple University tickets: https://www.leadsimple.com/lsu RentScale Sales Mastery tickets: https://salesmastery.live/ Newsletter https://muela.ck.page/profile Website https://www.profitablepropertymanagement.com https://www.facebook.com/PPMpodcast https://www.youtube.com/@profitablepropertymanagement

Smoking and alcohol are definite no-nos, but what else can you do to ensure your singing voice is in top condition? Jeremy Pound speaks to Olivia Sparkhall, author of A Young Person's Guide to Vocal Health, to find out.   This episode is sponsored by Bang & Olufsen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

To the uninitiated, the conductor can seem superfluous – simply waving their arms in the air while the orchestra does the hard work. But the art of conducting is fundamental to a great orchestra's sound and identity. Jeremy Pound speaks to BBC Symphony Orchestra principal conductor Sakari Oramo about this mysterious vocation. This episode is sponsored by Bang & Olufsen.   Musical Excerpt Dora Pejacevic Symphony, Op. 41 – IV. Allegro Appassionato (opening) BBC Symphony Orchestra/Sakari Oramo Chandos CHAN 5299 https://www.chandos.net/products/catalogue/CHAN%205299 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On this episode, host Bob Preston and guest Jeremy Pound discuss various aspects of business development and new client acquisition in the property management industry. The conversation also delves into the building blocks for creating a successful business development program and the characteristics of a good business development manager. Takeaways:Understanding the local market and competitionFinding the right business development managerMotivating business development managersCRM SoftwareSignificant opportunities for growthChapters:00:00 Introduction and Background05:20 Challenges in Acquiring New Doors10:20 Understanding the Local Market and Competition13:45 Building Blocks for Business Development18:00 Reluctance to Delegate Business Development30:00 Motivating and Compensating Business Development Managers37:20 Importance of Customer Relationship Management Software52:40 Closing ThoughtsConnect with Jeremy Pound:  https://rentscale.com/Episode 81 Featured Sponsor: zInspectorzInspector is the most powerful and affordable property inspection solution in the market. A great in-app camera experience, fully customizable templates, tenant-led inspections, 360-camera integration & virtual tours, and two-way PM software integrations make it the most collaborative field-to-office property inspection solution available. Embrace the future of property inspections with zInspector. (https://www.zinspector.com/)Our Industry Icon Sponsors supporting the show:SureVestor (https://surevestor.com/)Blanket (https://blankethomes.com/)VPM Solutions (https://www.vpmsolutions.com)RentScale (https://rentscale.com/)APM Help (https://www.apmhelp.com/)Upkeep Media (https://www.upkeepmedia.com/)Second Nature (https://www.secondnature.com/)zInspector (https://www.zinspector.com/)Showdigs (https://www.showdigs.com)Latchel (https://www.latchel.com)LeadSimple (https://https://www.leadsimple.com/)Connect with Bob Prestonhttps://www.propertymanagementbrainstorm.com/This episode is always available for listening, sharing, or download at Property Management Brainstorm. Subscribe to Property Management Brainstorm on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, Spotify, TuneIn, iHeart Radio and YouTube.

Welcome Closers,In this episode of the Profitable Property Management Podcast, hosts Jordan Muela and Jeremy Pound discuss strategies for driving growth in the residential property management industry. They cover topics like lead generation, forecasting, goal-setting, and investing in company culture.Topics Lead generation strategies: inbound, outbound, referral marketing Setting realistic yet ambitious growth goals The importance of forecasting and goal-setting Investing in company culture and employees Celebrating top operators in the industry Removing friction to enable creation and growth Guest:Jeremy Pound - Sales coach and co-founder of RentScale and This Week in Property ManagementRentscale.comSalesmastery.liveKey Moments: The importance of enjoying the sales and marketing strategies you pursue based on your strengths and temperament (12:25) Leaning financially into growth goals and ambitions (20:04) Mastermind groups forming among roles like operations managers and maintenance coordinators (33:07) Setting growth goals based on how much "strain" you are willing to take on (39:18) Origins of Jeremy's idea for a property management magazine (43:15) How to subscribe to the Strategic Property Management magazine and podcast (49:54) Be sure to subscribe to This Week in Property Management on YouTube for more great content and insights from Jordan and Jeremy! Are you a property manager looking to scale your business in 2023? Join us for LeadSimple University in Austin, TX from December 5-7. This exclusive event brings together top industry experts to teach you the latest systems and processes to automate tasks, streamline operations, and develop rockstar team members. You'll leave with actionable strategies to 10x your growth, reduce stress, and create predictable profits. Space is limited, so secure your spot today at https://www.leadsimple.com/lsu.Unlock your full potential with LeadSimple University!

OverviewIn this episode of The Profitable Property Management Podcast, host Jordan Muela has an in-depth discussion with Ben Sencenbaugh, founder of Realty Medics, about growing his property management company over the past 10 years before a recent acquisition. They cover Ben's journey from starting with just 200 doors to now managing over 1600, implementing systems and processes, lessons learned along the way, work/life balance as an entrepreneur, and finding the right buyer to acquire his business.Topics and Guests Ben Sencenbaugh, Founder of Realty Medics Growing a property management business over 10 years Implementing systems and processes Using marketing tactics like radio and direct mail Maintaining profitability while scaling a business Selling a property management company Change management and leading teams Achieving work/life balance as an entrepreneur Finding the right buyer for an acquisition Relevant Links and Resources Realty Medics - https://realtymedics.com/ Profitable Property Management Podcast YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@profitablepropertymanagement/ LeadSimple Software - https://leadsimple.com/ Danny Craig, Profit Coach - https://profitcoach.com/ Jeremy Pound, RentScale - https://www.RentScale.com/ Key Moments00:02:32 Ben shares the story of growing from 200 to 1650 doors in 10 years00:07:36 Implementing Podio in 2016 to organize processes00:12:18 Focusing on foreclosures and rehabs in the early years00:17:28 Starting radio ads and direct mail campaigns00:26:26 Bringing on Pam Kawasaki to refine branding and messaging00:31:08 Ben talks about his ability to build customized processes and software00:34:46 Starting with automating the renewal process first00:39:54 Sitting with employees to solve issues with new systems00:45:44 Implementing a customer service call center for incoming calls01:06:41 Not having a defined "end game" but being open to acquisition01:12:24 Learning about planning the "way down" after a sale01:16:33 Seeking an acquirer that would be the right fit to take care of staffFor more content like this, be sure to subscribe to the Profitable Property Management Podcast YouTube channel. You'll find videos of full podcast episodes with Jordan Muela and other great guests from the industry. Are you a property manager looking to scale your business in 2023? Join us for LeadSimple University in Austin, TX from December 5-7. This exclusive event brings together top industry experts to teach you the latest systems and processes to automate tasks, streamline operations, and develop rockstar team members. You'll leave with actionable strategies to 10x your growth, reduce stress, and create predictable profits. Space is limited, so secure your spot today at https://www.leadsimple.com/lsu.Unlock your full potential with LeadSimple University!

Season 2, Episode 4 of the Owner Occupied podcast with Peter Lohmann & special guest Jeremy Pound. In this episode we discuss: (00:00) Intro (01:20) Jeremy's background and career (05:26) The importance of narrowing your focus and the Market-Focus Paradox (10:39) The Woodchip analogy for sales (18:49) Immersing yourself in the industry and community of your customer (27:00) How do you view sales in property management relative to other industries? (31:09) How do you educate customers about the product during the sales process? (38:35) The Homeless Guy analogy (44:38) What's your advice to folks considering hiring salespeople? (58:44) How can outbound sales be done effectively in Property Management? (01:14:49) What's next for Rent Scale and where can people learn more? Learn more about Jeremy Pound & how to connect with him here: Facebook & Twitter RentScale RentScale on Facebook LeadSimple Learn more about Peter Lohmann & how to connect with him here: Follow Peter on Twitter Join Peter's Newsletter Visit Peter's Website RL Property Management Mentioned in this episode: Entrepreneur's Organization The Waterfall Exercise

Discover how the British countryside has inspired great composers over the centuries – and how their music helps us evoke landscapes and their wildlife. BBC Music Magazine's Jeremy Pound takes our own Fergus Collins for a walk over Leckhampton Hill to meet his countryside musical heroes, from Delius to Vaughan Williams and from Holst to Elgar. Image from Getty.Enjoy listening to the music discussed on this podcast on our Spotify playlist See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week on Inside The Wolf’s Den Podcast, we welcome the CEO of RentScale and Juicy Results, Jeremy Pound, to the show. Jeremy has successfully crafted online marketing strategies for countless organizations and professionals ranging from small businesses to Fortune 100 companies. A sales management expert, Jeremy helps service companies optimize and scale their sales teams to reach bigger goals. The three disciplined entrepreneurs discuss the positive habits and personal strategies they deploy to get the most out of life while juggling family, fitness, and business.

In this week's episode of the Music to my Ears podcast, we speak to Paul Morley, the pop journalist and musician and, more recently, classical music devotee . Brought up in Stockport, Paul cut his teeth in music journalism in Manchester. He then went on to write for the New Musical Express, where he rapidly became one of the paper’s most respected critics, leading to regular appearances on radio and TV.In 1983, Morley and producer Trevor Horn founded ZTT Records, which soon hit both the top of the charts and the headlines with the release of Frankie Goes to Hollywood’s Welcome to the Pleasuredome album. In the same year, they also formed the group The Art of Noise, which had a string of hits including a cover of Prince’s Kiss, featuring Tom Jones.In more recent years, however, Paul has turned his attention towards classical music, and in 2010 took part in a BBC Four documentary called The Art of Composing, which saw him study at the Royal Academy of Music for a year. In 2020, he charted his developing interest in a new book called A Sound Mind: How I Fell In Love with Classical Music, which has now been published by Bloomsbury.Paul talked to BBC Music Magazine’s deputy editor Jeremy Pound over Zoom during the second period of lockdown in England, and told him how, from his pop and rock background, he gradually fell under classical music’s spell.Recordings featured:Brian Eno: Fullness of Wind (Variation on Pachelbel's Canon in D)Debussy: Pelléas et Mélisande: 'Je les tiens dans le mains'London Symphony Orchestra, Sir Simon RattleLSO Live LSO0790Shostakovich: String Quartet No. 2: I. OvertureBorodin QuartetDecca 4834159Janáček: Words Fail See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

In this episode of the Music to my Ears podcast, BBC Music Magazine speaks to Karina Canellakis, who is currently chief conductor of the Netherlands Radio Philharmonic Orchestra and principal guest conductor of the Rundfunk-Sinfonieorchester Berlin, and has been recently appointed as principal guest conductor of the London Philharmonic Orchestra.Karina was born and brought up in a very musical family in New York. She initially studied and began her career as a violinist and played in a number of the world’s leading orchestras, and it was while she was playing with the Berlin Philharmonic as a member of its Orchester-Akademie that she was encouraged to take up conducting by Sir Simon Rattle. From that moment, she has never looked back, and has since led top ensembles across the globe, including the Dallas Symphony Orchestra where she held her first post, as assistant conductor. She is equally at home in opera, and has conducted major productions of works by composers ranging from Mozart to Maxwell Davies.Karina talked to BBC Music Magazine’s deputy editor Jeremy Pound over Zoom during the second period of lockdown, and talked to him about the thrill of of working with contemporary composers, the rarity of female role models and the sheer joy of Wagner.Recordings featured:Prokofiev: Peter and the Wolf Op. 67 No. 5Alexander Armstrong (narrator), Richard Casey, Ian Buckle (piano duet)Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra/Vasily PetrenkoWarner Classics 9029575952Wagner: Die Walküre: PreludeWolfgang Windgassen (Tristan), Birgit Nilsson (Isolde), Christa Ludwig (Brangäne), Martti Talvela (King Marke), Eberhard Waechter (Kurwenal), Peter Schreier (Seemann Chor und Orchester der Bayreuther Festspiele, Karl BöhmDG 4497722Wagner: Tristan und Isolde (Act III): 'Denn einer nur freie die Braut'Vienna Philharmonic/Georg SoltiDecca 4786192Stephen Sondheim: Sweeney ToddBryn Terfel (bass-baritone), Anne Sofie von Otter (mezzo-soprano), Swedish Radio Symphony Orchestra/Paul DanielDG 4778554 See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

In this episode we talk about how Jeremy Aspen got his first clients when he started out and we talk to Jeremy Pound about how to get the most out of a Business Development Manager, when to hire one, what to look for in the hire and how to manage them. This episode is jam-packed with great tips and tricks. This is not an episode you want to miss! About the show: Bootstrappers is a program designed to bring you up to the minute ideas and concepts to understand what it takes to succeed in business and life. We bring knowledge into the property management industry from different business industries to create a richer experience for our audience. We invite the best authors, thinkers, and business people to the show and we pick their brains in their areas of expertise. We interview our guests and gain key insights that can help our audience in their own path to success. You will find here, ideas, knowledge, best practices in a relaxed and fun conversation. No pretense. Our guests get real and share successes as well as failures. If you are looking for an unvarnished look at entrepreneurship and business development this is the show for you. https://anequim.net/

In this month's podcast, we discuss Yo-Yo Ma's intrepid musical exploration across the globe, from the Silk Road to Appalachian America. Plus, we discuss the plans for this year's slightly different BBC Proms season and what London's Wigmore Hall is doing to welcome artists back to its stage. We've also each brought along a new recording we've been enjoying, including a fresh interpretation of Beethoven's Fifth Symphony, plus works by Morton Gould and Louis-Gabriel Guillemain.NEWS:Pentecost - Sequentia - Veni Sancte SpiritusBenedictine nuns of the Abbey of Notre-Dame de Fidélité of Jouques, ProvenceTHE MAGAZINEScarcely Cricket Not Our First Goat RodeoYo-Yo Ma (cello), Stuart Duncan (violin), Edgar Meyer (bass), Chris Thile (mandolin)Sony Masterworks 19439738552Shostakovich Piano Concerto No. 1: IV. PrestoAlina Ibragimova (violin), State Academic Symphony Orchestra of Russia ‘Evgeny Svetlanov’/Vladimir JurowskiHyperion CDA68313FIRST LISTENFreya's choice:Beethoven: Symphony No. 5: I. Allegro con brioMusicAeterna/Teodor CurrentzisSony 19075884972Michael's choice:Louis-Gabriel Guillemain : Symphony in E flat major, Op. 14 No.2 : I. AllegroBrillance IndéniableAlana Youssefian (violin), Le Bien AiméAvie AV2412Jeremy's choice:Morton Gould – SymphonettesConga from Symphonette No. 4ORF Vienna Radio Symphony Orchestra/Arthur FagenNaxos 8559869This podcast was presented by BBC Music Magazine’s deputy editor Jeremy Pound, with reviews editor Michael Beek and editorial assistant Freya Parr. The jingles were composed by Christopher Maxim and the episode was produced by Jack Bateman and Ben Youatt. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

What’s your definition of “good” property management owner leads? How do you determine which leads are “bad” ones? And if everyone has a slightly different definitions, then are we just comparing apples to oranges? Jeremy Pound is the CEO and founder of RentScale. He’s joining us on The Property Management Show to talk about the […] The post Good vs. Bad Property Management Leads: Where to Draw the Line appeared first on Fourandhalf Marketing Agency for Property Managers.

In this month's podcast, we reflect on some of our favourite concerts that have been streamed online over the past few weeks, and suggest a few to look out for in the coming months. Plus, we discuss the new virtual festival of the arts 'Culture in Quarantine' on BBC Arts.Also this month, we discuss the fabulous virtuosity of violinist and conductor Maxim Vengerov as he marks 40 years on stage, and Ravi Shankar, whose centenary we are celebrating in our May issue.As usual, we've each brought along a recording we've been enjoying, from an orchestral work inspired by the Canary Islands to a choral piece based on an Estonian folk hymn.THE MAGAZINEMaxim VengerovRavel: Violin SonataMaxim Vengerov, Roustem Saïtkoulov at Carnegie Hall in 2018 (available on Idagio)Cover CD:Bruckner: Symphony No. 8BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra/Donald RunniclesFIRST LISTENFreya's choice:Chigaday (La Gomera) - for OrchestraGustavo Díaz-Jerez: Maghek – Seven Symphonic Poems About The Canary IslandsRoyal Scottish National Orchestra/Eduardo PortalSignum Classics SIGCD612Oliver's choice:Whilst greater is our poverty, still greater is our blessingKreek: The Suspended Harp of BabelVox ClamantisECM 4819041Jeremy's choice:Mathias: Harp Sonata, Second Movement: Allegro VivoA Vision of Time and EternityMichelle Gott (harp)Naxos 8.574053This podcast was presented by BBC Music Magazine’s editor Oliver Condy, with deputy editor Jeremy Pound and editorial assistant Freya Parr. The jingles were composed by Christopher Maxim and the episode was produced by Jack Bateman and Ben Youatt. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

In the April issue of the BBC Music Magazine Podcast, we discuss the impact of the coronavirus pandemic on music festivals across the globe. We also look at the recently released list of PRS Women Changing Music, which features a number of film composers. Also this month, we flick through the latest issue of BBC Music Magazine, which features pianist Angela Hewitt on the cover. We reflect on the tragic story of her broken Fazioli piano, which hit headlines earlier this year. You’ll also get to hear an extract from our Recording of the Month: Federico Colli performing Domenico Scarlatti’s piano sonatas.As always, we’ve each brought along a new recording we’ve discovered this month, including works by Caroline Shaw, Bernard Hughes and Nikolai Tcherepnin. * PLEASE NOTE: This episode was recorded a couple of weeks ago. Because of the fast-paced nature of the coronavirus outbreak, some of our references to its impact on the music scene may already be out of date.THE MAGAZINE:D Scarlatti: Sonata KK427 in G major D Scarlatti: Piano Sonatas, Vol. 2Federico Colli (piano)Chandos CHAN20134FIRST LISTEN:Michael’s choice:Not Now, Bernard – Part 1Not Now, Bernard and other storiesAlexander Armstrong (narrator), Orchestra of the Swan/Tom HammondOrchid Classics ORC100115Oliver’s choice:Caroline Shaw: SchismaHealing ModesBrooklyn RiderIn A Circle Records IRC014Jeremy’s choice:Nikolai Tcherepnin: Narcisse et Echo, Op. 40Bamberger Symphoniker/Łukasz BorowiczCPO 555250-2This podcast was presented by BBC Music Magazine’s editor Oliver Condy, with deputy editor Jeremy Pound and reviews editor Michael Beek. The jingles were composed by Christopher Maxim and the episode was produced by Jack Bateman and Ben Youatt. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Welcome to the March 2020 edition of the BBC Music Magazine Podcast! This month we discuss the news that the Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment will only travel by train (rather than plane) on its upcoming tour, as part of its commitment to becoming carbon neutral. We also look at new research which uncovers the fact that Beethoven may not, in fact, have been completely deaf when his final symphony was premiered. Also this episode, we explore the genius of Polish composer Grażyna Bacewicz and hear one of her stunning string quartets. Another iconic Eastern European composer is also celebrated this month: Sofia Gubaidulina, who is featured in this month’s issue having recently been awarded the prestigious RPS Gold Medal.As always, we’ve each brought along our favourite new musical discoveries this month, including chamber works by Lili Boulanger, piano miniatures by Kancheli and new orchestral works by Lithuanian composer Raminta Šerkšnytė. This episode is presented by managing editor Rebecca Franks, who is joined by editorial assistant Freya Parr and deputy editor Jeremy Pound. It was produced by Ben Youatt and Jack Bateman.News:Molto Vivace from Beethoven's Symphony No. 9Minnesota Orchestra/Osmo VänskäBIS BISSACD1616The Magazine:Vivo from Bacewicz's String Quartet No. 3Lutosławski QuartetNaxos 8572806Sofia Gubaidulina: ChaconneAnna Vinnitskaya (piano) Ambroisie AM177First Listen:Rebecca's choice:Demain fera un an (Tomorrow it will be a year)Clairières: Songs by Lili and Nadia BoulangerNicholas Phan (tenor), Myra Huang (piano)Avie AV2414Jeremy's choice:Extraordinary Exhibition Kancheli: 33 MiniaturesGeorge Vatchnadze (piano), Suren Bagratuni (cello)Piano Classics PCL10198Freya's choice:Songs of Sunset and Dawn: III. Morning. Eternal MorningWorks by Raminta Šerkšnytė Lithuanian National Symphony Orchestra/Mirga Gražinytė-TylaDeutsche Grammophon 4837761 See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

In our January 2020 podcast, we find out about violinist Nicola Benedetti's latest venture, an impressive educational initiative that she's been dreaming of starting for years. She's our cover star on the January issue of BBC Music Magazine, and in this podcast we also enjoy a clip from our cover CD of works by Mozart and Schubert, played by BBC Radio 3 New Generation Artists.Plus, in this episode we pay tribute to the late conductors Mariss Jansons and Stephen Cleobury, bring news of the winners at the 2019 Royal Philharmonic Society Awards and hear about Olga Neuwirth's Orlando, which became the first opera by a woman to be staged in 150 years at the Vienna State Opera.And, as usual, we each bring along a new recording we've been enjoying this month.This episode is presented by deputy editor Jeremy Pound, who is joined be managing editor Rebecca Franks and reviews editor Michael Beek. It was produced by Ben Youatt and Jack Bateman.Recordings:Mahler Symphony No. 3Randi Stene; Oslo Philharmonic Orchestra & Chorus/Mariss JansonsSimax PSC1272Jeremy's choice: Forgotten TreasuresBuffalo Philharmonic/JoAnn FallettaBeau Fleuve 6059960998531Rebecca's choice: The Etudes Project: Volume OneJenny Lin (piano)Sono Luminus DSL-92236Michael's choiceVivaldi/JupiterLea Desandre, Bruno Philippe, Peter Whelan, Thomas DunfordAlpha Classics ALPHA550Stories:Mariss Jansons (1943-2019)https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-50630050Sir Stephen Cleobury (1948-2019)https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/nov/24/sir-stephen-cleobury-obituaryWinners of the Royal Philharmonic Society Awards:http://www.classical-music.com/news/winners-royal-philharmonic-society-awards-2019-revealedOrlando world premiere review:https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/dec/14/orlando-vienna-state-opera-review-olga-neuwirth-world-premiere-virginia-woolfJanuary 2020 issue of BBC Music Magazinehttp://www.classical-music.com/magazine/next-issue/bbc-music-magazine See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

We have mince pies, sherry and crackers: it must be time for the Christmas podcast! Join us for an episode packed with Yuletide joy, beautiful new carols by Dobrinka Tabakova, Toby Young, Cecilia McDowall and Michael Finnissy, as well as our favourite festive musical jokes. Plus hear all about our Christmas isssue. Our cover feature takes a look at a masterpiece that has redefined the sound of Christmas, Handel's Messiah; we also explore the parish church choir scene, and find out what concert-hall horrors cause musicians to see red. And, of course, we've brought along a batch of the latest Christmas CDs we've been enjoying. Merry Christmas!This episode is presented by editor Oliver Condy, who is joined by deputy editor Jeremy Pound, managing editor Rebecca Franks, editorial assisstant Freya Parr and reviews editor Michael Beek. It was produced by Ben Youatt and Jack Bateman.Recordings:Dobrinka Tabakova Good-will to men, and peace on EarthChoir of Queen's College, Oxford/Owen ReesBBC Music Magazine Christmas 2020 Cover CDToby Young The OwlChoir of Queen's College, Oxford/Owen ReesBBC Music Magazine Christmas 2020 Cover CDExtracts from Handel's MessiahTaverner Choir and Players/Andrew ParrottVirgin Veritas 562 0042Peter Warlock Bethlehem DownChristmas at St George's WindsorChoir of St George's Windsor/James VivianHyperion CDA 68281First Listen Choices:Christmas at St George's WindsorChoir of St George's Windsor/James VivianHyperion CDA 68281Advent Carols from King's College, LondonChoir of King's College, London/Joseph FortDelphian DCD34226Tchaikovsky The NutcrackerState Academic Symphony Orchestra of Russia 'Evgeny Svetlanov'/Vladimir JurowskiPentatone PTC5186761 See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

In our October 2019 podcast, we discuss the news that Jules Buckley has been taken on the role of creative artist in association at the BBC Symphony Orchestra, and the family of a girl chorister has sued Berlin Cathedral Choir after it rejected her application for an audition. Plus, we introduce our October issue, in which we talk to husband-and-wife team mezzo Magdalena Kožená and maestro Simon Rattle about their recording of works for voice and piano. We also try out the BBC Philharmonic’s new in-concert app, and, as usual, we each bring along a new recording we’ve been enjoying this month. This episode is presented by editor Oliver Condy, who is joined by deputy editor Jeremy Pound and reviews editor Michael Beek. It was produced by Ben Youatt and Jack Bateman.Recordings:Brahms String Sextet No. 1 in B flatRaphael EnsembleHyperion CDA66276‘Il volo cosí fido al doce’ from Handel’s Riccardo PrimoHandel’s QueensLucy Crowe, Mary Bevan, London Early Opera/Bridget CunninghamSignum SIGCD579Olly’s choice: Kabalevsky Colas Breugnon OvertureMalmö Symphony Orchestra/Darrell AngNaxos 8573859Jeremy’s choice: Lassen Violin ConcertoLinus Roth, BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra/Antony HermusHyperion CDA68268 Michael’s choice: ‘The Duel’ from John Williams’s The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of the UnicornAcross the StarsAnne-Sophie Mutter, The Recording Arts Orchestra of Los Angeles/John WilliamsDeutsche Grammophon 4797553Stories:Bagpiper receives noise complaints for practising in back garden: https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/4601608/alan-jamieson-wishaw-bagpipes-sunderland-hate-mail/Berlin choir accused of gender discrimination by girl chorister: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/09/berlin-choir-accused-of-gender-discrimination-by-nine-year-old-girlJules Buckley announced as creative artist in association: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/aug/26/stormzy-collaborator-jules-buckley-bbc-symphony-orchestra See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

You may or may not have heard Jordan talk about the importance of operationalizing sales and marketing - and why it's the difference between results and flailing. A good lead source is not a growth strategy, nor is hiring a BDM... For your growth plans to succeed in 2019, you are going to need a robust sales process that is capable of producing consistent results, regardless of who is in the sales role. On this podcast we discuss the building blocks of building an effective sales process from the ground up with Jeremy Pound from Juicy Results. Jeremy has worked with property management teams at all stages to completely redefine their approach to sales - and the results have been awe inspiring.

Welcome to the December episode of the BBC Music Magazine podcast, presented by deputy editor Jeremy Pound along with managing editor Rebecca Franks and editorial assistant Freya Parr. This month, we chat about the news that conductor Omer Meir Wellber has been appointed to the BBC Philharmonic, the death of the legendary Spanish soprano Montserrat Caballé, and the launch of the BBC's Our Classical Century. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

I have a brand new segment that I’ve decided to do. We learn from each other’s real-world experiences, so I’ll give you my experience each month in this segment, Wins and Losses. I’ll go over things that go well, and things that could have gone better. I hope you’ll learn from both! Let’s dive right in with my wins from August. Positive focus! At the beginning of our meetings, we go over personal and business bests. Several of my team members have pointed out that they love our positive focus strategy, and have even brought it into their personal lives. We redid our sales process with the help of Jeremy Pound from Juicy Results. Tune into the episode to hear the details, which you may be able to apply to your own business! Performance reviews. We learned that a couple of our employees were burned out, and one of them wanted to transition into a different role. Blogging. I hired a writer to help us blog and implement new marketing systems in our company. I launched my new album, 26Black! We brought on a big owner through our content and positioning on our website. I’ve been using a leadership wheel to focus on one specific aspect each month. My wife and I picked a name for our son, who will be born in November: Miles! I’m loving my stand-up desk. Operating under the karmic law of giving what you want to get.   Pretty great, right? Of course, it’s never completely smooth sailing, so let’s move onto the losses. I’m hoping you can learn from these so you don’t have to experience them yourself! I learned the hard way not to delegate one-star reviews. We implemented the wrong kind of “rocks,” or quarterly goals. Tune in to hear what was wrong with them, and what we’ll do better going forward. Our bonus plan just isn’t working. Instead, we’ll be doing a new profit-sharing system. When it comes to apps, we’ll no longer be outsourcing a core function of the business.   Tune in to learn more details about all of these, so you can benefit from our good choices and learn from my mistakes! You’ll also get to hear a song from my brand new album.   In This Episode: [01:05] - Steve introduces his new Wins and Losses segment. [02:10] - We hear about some of Steve’s wins for August, which include positive focus and redoing the sales process. [07:20] - Another of Steve’s wins this month was doing quarterly performance reviews. He explains the beginning of a performance review, then the questions that they ask employees during the reviews. [11:56] - Steve likes to know what fires his employees up personally too, not just professionally. [13:38] - The next win on Steve’s list for August is blogging. [16:33] - Steve shares a personal accomplishment: he recently launched his new album! You can find it on Spotify, and you’ll hear part of it as the outro at the end of this show. [17:27] - We hear about more of August’s wins, including a new multi-unit owner and the idea of a leadership wheel. [22:26] - Steve’s wife is due in November, and they picked a name for their son! [23:17] - The last in Steve’s list of wins for August is this mantra: giving what you want to get. [24:00] - We move onto the losses that Steve has experienced during August. The first of these involves dealing with one-star reviews. [28:11] - Steve had to review communication surrounding deposits with his team. [28:53] - Another loss was setting the wrong kind of rocks (or quarterly goals). Another involved our bonus plan. [31:08] - Steve wraps things up by sharing one of the songs from his new album!   Links and Resources: Sign Up for LeadSimple (don’t forget to use referral code STEVE) Apply for The List Mastermind Strategic Coach Traction EOS Jeremy Pound Juicy Results Jordan Muela Steve Rozenberg Impact (Marcus Sheridan) 26Black on Spotify

Jeremy Pound / Juicy Results Jeremy Pound, dubbed “The CRM Guy,” is the CEO of Juicy Results, a South Florida-based consulting firm that specializes in helping entrepreneurs scale their sales teams. He writes and speaks regularly on how rapidly growing companies are using technology and the Internet to dominate their marketplace and has published two […]

Jeremy Pound / Juicy Results Jeremy Pound, dubbed “The CRM Guy,” is the CEO of Juicy Results, a South Florida-based consulting firm that specializes in helping entrepreneurs scale their sales teams.

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Take your sales strategy to the next level with powerful insight about Sales and Marketing alignment and how to successfully scale your sales team. It's time to boost your CRM success and who better to teach you about it than the “CRM Guy”, Jeremy Pound.  You will learn new sales strategy tips, gain confidence in finally using a CRM and smash common sales misconceptions to bits. Get motivated to develop a team of your dreams that's destined to gather leads by the hundreds and maximize your sales results.   Takeaways Adoption is key. You've got to learn the culture of your sales team. Roll out a CRM in bite sized chunks that people are actually going to use. Strive for the show, not tell environment. When you have a sales meeting, it should be, hey, let's see what you did in the crm. Let's look at the numbers, let's look at the results. Determine key metrics for your team to help them make progress. Providing actionable feedback helps a team win. If you can, try to run your sales process like an assembly line. It's all about consistent star points, consistent process, consistent endpoint. Chase the fat deals and strive to have the fattest pipeline possible. Use the FAT acronym, fit, ability and timing. Don't forget that qualification can actually make people feel good. If you're humble, hungry and you listen, you may not have to go the traditional route that everybody else does. It's okay to try something different.   Links Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thejeremypound Twitter: @jeremypound LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pound/ Website: http://www.juicyresults.com/ Book Link: https://www.amazon.com/Seven-Habits-Scalable-Sales-Teams/dp/1533615446  

Today, I'm talking with Jeremy Pound, the CEO of Juicy Results, a consultancy that helps great companies build scalable sales teams by getting the most out of their CRM. He's also the author of 7 Habits of Highly Scalable Teams and the host of the New Customer Machine podcast, dedicated to helping entrepreneurs use their CRM and the latest technology to scale revenue. In our chat today, we're going to cover Jeremy's best practices for how scaling teams can best use CRMs to master the sales process to create rapid growth and how you can use this strategy to build a better property management business. If your sales process isn't much of an actual process, then this is an episode you need to tune into.

For the March 2018 episode, editor Oliver Condy, deputy editor Jeremy Pound, reviews editor Rebecca Franks and editorial assistant Freya Parr chat about the ambitious centennial season in 2018-2019 from the Los Angeles Philharmonic, the retirement of music director Stephen Cleobury from the Choir of King’s College, Cambridge, how music venues and churches will now have better protection from local residents and the launch of Irish National Opera See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Thank you for joining me on this 118th episode! It's a solocast about becoming an influencer in your industry, which is very timely for me, as it seems to be starting to happen to me right NOW. I am fresh off of my podcasting presentation to the Mystery Writers of America, Florida Chapter, and it could not have been a more fun event. And, even more, the aftermath has been fantastic and really driven into me the power of being seen as an influencer in your industry. So, let's dive into the benefits and how-to of becoming an influencer and spark some creative ideas of how you can become an influencer yourself. I switch up the format on this episode, leading with my usual tasty nuggets in The Learning Curve. Then, I treat you to my MWA presentation audio, which is chock-full of tips on how to get booked on podcasts (a GREAT way to gain exposure and be seen as an influencer) and tons of information on how to start your own podcast (also a great way to become known). So, take some good notes on this podcast and become your industry's next influencer!! Enjoy!! Mentioned in this episode: Estelle's GoFund Me: https://www.gofundme.com/3wt5psg MWA Slides: http://flintstonemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/flint-stone-medias-mwa-podcasting-presentation-for-download.pdf Yami Avendano from Twinfinite's E3 Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tv8HDnWfZw Tai Lopez video suggested by Jeremy Pound of Juicy Results: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01-4HFnePSc Diane Stuckart, episode #48: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/curve-cube-inspiration-motivation/id931220607?mt=2&i=355528136 Music Beds courtesy of DJ John Hitta!!!   Follow Jules Pierre-Louis on: Twitter | Instagram Follow Hive Hub Media on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook To stay up on the latest with my guests, follow Curve the Cube on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | SnapChat (@CurveTheCube) | Tumblr | Pinterest | YouTube Interested in podcasting? Head to Libsyn.com and use my promo code "IGNITE" to get one month of free hosting with the BEST hosting company around--Liberated Syndication! Copyright Flint Stone Media, LLC 2017.

On the cover CD of the February issue of BBC Music Magazine, the Aurora Orchestra present music by our cover star Philip Glass, and fellow minimalist John Adams. In this podcast, deputy editor Jeremy Pound and editorial assistant Elinor Cooper introduce the works, complete with extracts. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

On the cover CD of the Christmas issue of BBC Music Magazine, the King's Singers present a festive feast of Christmas music from across the ages. In this podcast, deputy editor Jeremy Pound and editorial assistant Elinor Cooper introduce the works, complete with extracts. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Our November Recording of the Month features CPE Bach's three Cello Concertos. Nicolas Altstaedt is the brilliant soloist in these works, which are important links between the Baroque and Classical concerto and also brilliant pieces in their own right. The German-French cellist appears with Arcangelo and director Jonathan Cohen, and the disc is out on the Hyperion label. Join deputy editor Jeremy Pound and reviews editor Rebecca Franks for a discussion of the music and to hear clips from the recording. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

On the cover CD of the November issue of BBC Music Magazine, we present JS Bach's The Art of Fugue, arranged and played by Mahan Esfahani, with the help of instrumentalists from the Academy of Ancient Music. In this podcast, deputy editor Jeremy Pound and editorial assistant Elinor Cooper introduce the work, complete with extracts. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

On the cover CD of the October issue of BBC Music Magazine, we present ten modern British masterworks, all commissioned by BBC Radio 3. The works were chosen and performed by the orchestras for which they were commissioned. In this podcast, deputy editor Jeremy Pound and editorial assistant Elinor Cooper introduce the works, complete with extracts. To read an interview with Judith Weir about her two works on this disc, click here. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

On the cover CD of the November issue of BBC Music Magazine, the BBC Symphony Orchestra and BBC Singers perform works by giants of contemporary American music, Steve Reich and John Adams. In this podcast, deputy editor Jeremy Pound and editorial assistant Elinor Cooper introduce the works, complete with extracts. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

On the cover CD of the August issue of BBC Music Magazine, BBC Radio 3 New Generation Artists give live performances of early works by Beethoven, Brahms, and Webern. In this podcast, deputy editor Jeremy Pound and editorial assistant Elinor Cooper introduce the works on the disc, complete with extracts. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

On the cover CD of the July issue of BBC Music Magazine Donald Runnicles conducts the BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra in a performance of Mahler's epic ninth Symphony, recorded live at the BBC Proms in 2014. In this podcast, deputy editor Jeremy Pound and editorial assistant Elinor Cooper introduce the works on the disc, complete with extracts. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

On the cover CD of the June issue of BBC Music Magazine, we celebrate the music of Felix Mendelssohn, as we ask whether Schumann was right to call him the 'Mozart of the 19th century'. In this podcast, deputy editor Jeremy Pound and editorial assistant Elinor Cooper introduce the works on the disc, complete with extracts. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

My guest in (yes, really the) 74th episode features my new “professional compass,” Jeremy Pound, the CEO of Juicy Results where I recently started as their Internet Marketing Coordinator. Juicy Results. Known as the “Internet marketing agency for the Fortune Five Million, Jeremy and his Juicy Results crew specialize in solid web design and maintenance, SEO, and social media marketing. In running his company, Jeremy maintains a keen focus on company culture, and has created one like I’ve never seen, including first-day champagne bottles, a four-legged receptionist named Jackson, and an emphasis on continuous learning. On my first day he introduced me to the Growth Mindset pioneer, Carol Dweck, by listening to her appearance on Bryan Allen’s podcast. It was astonishing to me how much I was able to connect with it, and I highly recommend that all of you listen to that on your next podcast binge. It’s a solid window into my “curvist” philosophy. Speaking of podcasts, Jeremy hosts his own called the New Customer Machine, which he has started in conjunction with writing his next book of the same name. If you are a small business owner or are trying to expand your public profile for any other reason (ahem: artists, musicians, writers, inventors, etc…), you NEED to listen to TCM!! And, his last book, The Bootstrapper’s Guide to Search Engine Optimization, is a must-read for much of the same reason. So, pick up your copy today!! Jeremy and I talk a lot about marketing and being an active business leader in our community, but also about his childhood creative endeavors, parental influences, and what he cringes at being called. (Spoiler alert: I TOTALLY call him it in the beginning. Ha!) Follow Jeremy Pound on: Twitter | Instagram Follow Juicy Results on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube This episode of Curve the Cube is sponsored by the Pizza Girls—West Palm Beach’s Top Spot for Authentic NY Pizza—from episode #17!!! They are located right in the heart of downtown, by the fountains where Clematis meets Flagler. Go in and have a slice! Or, order from them online, and they will give you 10% off of your first order. Don’t forget to follow them on social media and to keep an eye out for their food truck for delicious “Slices & Ices”!! Instagram | Twitter | Facebook Enjoy!! Music Beds courtesy of DJ John Hitta!!! Follow Curve the Cube on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Tumblr | Pinterest | YouTube Copyright Flint Stone Media, LLC 2016.

"Don't just talk about your service, break it down. What kinds of problems will you be solving at the end of the day? Can you start to give away answers so people can test drive how you think and how you solve a problem?" According to Jeremy Pound, his journey to becoming co-founder of JuicyResults, as well as a well-known creative entrepreneur within the South Florida community, is easily traced to his enrollment (as a high school sophomore) in a brand-new Art magnet school that opened in a nearby neighborhood. "I went from being very disinterested in school to all of a sudden...WOW!" Jeremy credits much of his current success to his incredible teachers and the environment that fostered his current "I can do anything" mentality. Today, Jeremy is a sought-after Internet marketing strategist; he helps clients who typically have annual revenues between $1 million and $10 million and employs a dedicated sales staff. In this episode, Jeremy discusses:     His earlier rock star dreams     What his grunge band taught him about dreaming big and achieving goals     His first entrepreneurial lesson     The significance of intentionality, belief and vision     Essential Internet Marketing Strategies     Why companies should focus on very specific search queries and terms     What most small businesses do when it comes to search keywords and why it's not necessarily best     The importance of crafting solutions to the query vs. talking about your company or service     Why educating your prospect is among the most successful strategies     The essence of Google and the search query     How he defines "success"     His most important habits     How to get a little better every day     His use of triggers for habit development     How relationships set off certain triggers and habits     And so much more! “The bigger the problem, the earlier in the morning I'll get up!" Jeremy Pound is the co-founder and CEO of JuicyResults, a South Florida-based Internet marketing agency. In the last decade Jeremy has helped craft and implement online marketing strategies for countless companies, ranging in size from the smallest of businesses to Fortune 100 companies. Today, he works closely with sales teams to generate ready-to-buy leads using an array of Internet marketing strategies. He writes and speaks regularly on how businesses can best take advantage of the web and is the author of The Bootstrapper's Guide to SEO. Jeremy is also the host of the New Customer Machine podcast, where he interviews experts and entrepreneurs about how to turn strangers into customers at scale. ---------------------------------------------------- Subscribe Don't miss a single episode. Subscribe to the podcast to get each episode sent directly to you. itunes-button-300x109 soundcloud-logo-300x152 stitcher-logo-300x152 Resources Jeremy's Books (FREE) Seven Habits of Scalable Sales Teams The Bootstrapper's Guide to SEO: A Proven Framework for Winning Top Rankings in Search Engines (Amazon) Jeremy's PODCAST! (iTunes) New Customer Machine Jeremy's Reading List: Man's Search For Meaning (Amazing book!) Viktor Frankl The Omnivore's Dilemma: A Natural History of Four Meals Michael Pollan The Obstacle is the Way, Ryan Holiday OTHER RESOURCES: The Habit Factor app The Habit Factor template The Habit Factor book Big Brothers Big Sisters

On the cover CD of the April issue of BBC Music Magazine, we celebrate the 100th anniversary of the birth of Yehudi Menuhin by featuring the great violinist in performances of Bartók's Second Violin Concerto, plus sonatas by Brahms and Tcherepnin. In this podcast, deputy editor Jeremy Pound and editorial assistant Elinor Cooper introduce the works on the disc, complete with extracts. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

On the cover CD of the March issue of BBC Music Magazine, pianist Anne Queffélec plays solo works by Satie, Honegger, Hahn, Poulenc and Mompou, and is joined by fellow pianist Frank Braley and the BBC National Orchestra of Wales under Grant Llewellyn for Poulenc's Concerto for Two Pianos. In this podcast, deputy editor Jeremy Pound and editorial assistant Elinor Cooper introduce the works on the disc, complete with extracts. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Want to double or even triple your revenue? Start with shining a spotlight on how your best salespeople spend their time. Shift the time they spend with early stage buyers to others and introduce automation wherever possible to free your rainmakers up to spend as much of their time as possible with the most ready-to-buy prospects and watch your sales explode. I would love your feedback on these concepts as I set out to write the New Customer Machine book. Presented by Jeremy Pound.

Cognitive Rampage: Session 28 Jeremy Pound Juicy Results Adam Lowery sits down with the Entrepreneur and CEO of Juicy Results Mr. Jeremy Pound. Cognitive Rampage Session 28 we sit down with Jeremy... The Cognitive Rampage hosts cerebral guests, offers mental health help, pushes you to question everything, including yourself and is a human experience exploratory podcast. In my book, The Cognitive Rampage, I have fused the cognitive, behavioral, social and biological sciences into a book to help you discover a deeper you, and create and sustain change in your life. Now Available on Amazon, Kindle and Barnes and Noble Hello, my name is Adam Lowery. I hope you’re taking care of you and living your Cognitive Rampage! What does that mean? It is about cultivating happiness through a passionate pursuit of life optimization, an enthusiastically persistent search for competence in mind, body and belief while building an optimistically rational life philosophy and living and growing your purposeful structure.

Search Engine Optimization, contrary to the thoughts of many experts, is still important. Google’s new mobile-friendly update is proof that ignoring SEO over the last few years was a mistake. Jeremy Pound is the co-founder and CEO of Juicy Results, the … Continue reading → The post 122: Search Engine Optimization- Jeremy Pound appeared first on ACT LOCAL.

How to dominate the internet with your brand and achieve big goals! Guest Jeremy Pound of Juicy Results shares on this episode. www.LeanOnTheWall.com

Our February issue cover CD features a fantastic selection of works by Sibelius, including his brooding Fourth Symphony and the well known Finlandia, Op. 26. Hear clips from the performances and an introducion to the works from Jeremy Pound and Rosie Pentreath. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Jeremy Pound and Rosie Pentreath introduce Mstislav Rostropovich's 1975 Edinburgh Festival performance of Bach's Cello Suites Nos 2,3 & 6, featured on our January 2015 issue cover CD. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Our Christmas cover CD features a selection of beautiful carols sung by the choir of Merton College, Oxford. Jeremy Pound and Rosie Pentreath present clips and an introduction to the collection. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Our December cover CD features performances of music by CPE Bach by Rachel Podger and friends to mark the composer’s 300th anniversary. Hear clips and an introduction to the works from Jeremy Pound and Rosie Pentreath. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Our November cover CD includes performances of Schumann’s Symphony No. 1 and Schubert’s Symphony No. 4 by the BBC Philharmonic Orchestra under Gianandrea Noseda and Juanjo Mena respectively. Hear clips and an introduction to the works from Jeremy Pound and Rosie Pentreath. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

The young British pianist Benjamin Grosvenor plays JS Bach, Chopin, Scriabin, Granados and more in this sparkling recital, our October Recording of the Month. Hear clips from the disc in this podcast with Rebecca Franks and Jeremy Pound. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Jeremy Pound and Rebecca Franks introduce Brahms’s Symphony No. 3 and Variations on a theme by Haydn, as heard on our October cover CD See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Jeremy Pound and Rosie Pentreath discuss the songs and arias performed by sopranos Maria Callas, Lucia Popp and Elisabeth Söderström on our September Cover CD See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Jeremy Pound and Rosie Pentreath discuss piano sonatas by Beethoven, Schubert and Haydn as heard on the BBC Music Magazine August issue Cover CD. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

We've all had moments when our mind has wandered during a Wagner opera, a Bruckner symphony or perhaps a long Mozart recitative. Some of us have even dozed off. But maybe we shouldn’t beat ourselves up when our thoughts drift to a grocery list or an e-mail we forgot to send earlier. Boredom in the concert hall may actually be a good thing, says John Crace, a features writer for the Guardian newspaper. In a recent article he argued that the slow, tedious moments in classical music make the exciting ones that much better. Among the works Crace cited is Wagner's six-hour Parsifal, which puts extremely high demands on modern listeners. "There's an hour-and-a-half of absolutely sublime music, which makes it all worthwhile," he told host Jeff Spurgeon. "And then there are bits, especially in the second act, when my mind starts to wander." It probably was the fault of Wagner – not the listener or the performer. "He expected his audiences to come along for the ride with him," Crace continued. "And I don’t think audiences are always prepared to do that." But other industry-watchers disagree that the blame rests with the composer. "Before I would go attacking the repertoire per se, I would first take a look at the performance," said Ben Finane, editor-in-chief of Listen magazine. "I think it’s incumbent upon the singers to establish good chemistry on stage for those [Mozart] recitatives. It’s incumbent upon the conductor to keep things moving, and when that happens, I’m not dosing off." In 2011, BBC Music Magazine asked 10 leading music critics to name the most boring masterpieces in classical music. Responses included Mahler's Eighth Symphony, Bruckner's Seventh Symphony, Vivaldi's Gloria and several operas: Wagner's Tristan und Isolde, Puccini's Madam Butterfly and Rossini's Cenerentola, among others. "There was no common thread, which shows that one man’s meat is another man’s poison," said Jeremy Pound, the magazine's deputy editor. Wagner has frequently come in for criticism, and some critics say it's a rare opera of his that couldn't be improved by taking 20 minutes (or more) off the running time. "That’s the trouble with Wagner is there’s so much good stuff in there but you have to sit through the dreary stuff in between," noted Pound. Crace believes that opera is a challenge because, unlike a play, it's difficult to cut in performance. "No one would dream of performing Hamlet at five hours," he said. "But there is a feeling in opera that somehow there’s an irreverence attached if every note of every bar is not included." Perhaps the media has unfairly hyped epic works and created unreasonable expectations in audiences, said Pound. But just as important to realize is that, with age, a listener's concept of time starts to change. "What was boring to me 20 years ago now I absolutely adore," Pound added. Listen to the segment above and tell us: Are there pieces that sometimes make your mind wander? Leave your comments below.