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AudioFile's Robin Whitten joins host Jo Reed to celebrate Hillary Huber's prolific audiobook career and her recognition as a 2025 Golden Voice narrator. They highlight standout moments from Huber's narration of more than 500 titles, including her acclaimed performances of Elena Ferrante's novels. The conversation offers insights into Huber's versatile approach across genres and her ability to engage listeners with authenticity, nuance, and attitude. Congratulations to Hillary Huber, a 2025 Golden Voice! Read reviews of Hillary Huber's audiobooks on our website. Visit AudioFile's website for a full list of AudioFile's Golden Voice narrators. Support for AudioFile's Behind the Mic comes from HarperCollins Focus, and HarperCollins Christian Publishing, publishers of some of your favorite audiobooks and authors, including Reba McEntire, Bob Goff, Kathie Lee Gifford, Max Lucado, Lysa TerKeurst, and so many more!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

AudioFile Magazine's Golden Voice narrators are the stars of the audiobook universe. Today host Jo Reed and AudioFile's Robin Whitten are announcing the new Golden Voice honorees for 2025: Hillary Huber, Vikas Adam, and Kimberly Farr. AudioFile Magazine has bestowed the Golden Voice honor on 53 audiobook narrators; it's an accolade that honors those who have made significant contributions to the audiobook art form. We're celebrating the iconic skills these narrators bring to their performances, and listeners can be assured that when they pick up an audiobook narrated by any of the Golden Voices, they will have an exceptional listening experience. Robin and Jo will be honoring each of the new Golden Voices in turn this week, and we'll have full interviews with each of the new Golden Voices this month, starting with Hillary Huber's on June 6 — be sure to follow our podcast so you don't miss it! Visit AudioFile's website for a full list of AudioFile's Golden Voice narrators.   Enjoy our Spotify Playlist to all of AudioFile's Golden Voice Interviews Support for AudioFile's Behind the Mic comes from HarperCollins Focus, and HarperCollins Christian Publishing, publishers of some of your favorite audiobooks and authors, including Reba McEntire, Bob Goff, Kathie Lee Gifford, Max Lucado, Lysa TerKeurst, and so many more!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kiera is joined by Dr. Robert DiPilla to talk about his world of dentistry, including the transition from cosmetic to holistic services, how he educated his patients, lessons learned during his multi-practice ownership, and more.   About Dr. DiPilla: Dr. Robert DiPilla studied dentistry at the University of Detroit-Mercy, and then went on to attain a Fellowship for Dental Implants at the Harvard Club. He was quickly recruited to Manhattan, where he honed his dentistry techniques, and had the opportunity to work on many high-profile clients. Dr. DiPilla became a partner at the renowned Rosenthal Dental Group on Madison Avenue, and earned the title “the dentist's dentist” by his peers in the industry. Dr. DiPilla has had the privilege of perfecting the smiles of celebrity clientele such as Kathie Lee Gifford, Wayne Gretzky, Steve Duchesne, and Sarah Ferguson among others. While Dr. DiPilla maintains a Manhattan office, he now focuses on the location where his career began in the Detroit Metropolitan area. He contributes regularly to nationally circulated trade publications, and continues to be recognized as a leader and expert resource in aesthetic dentistry. Episode resources: Sign up for Dental A-Team's Virtual Summit 2025! Subscribe to The Dental A-Team podcast Schedule a Practice Assessment Leave us a review Transcript Kiera Dent (00:00.768) Hello, Dental A Team listeners. This is Kiera And today I am so jazzed to have an incredible guest. We have been following this man. We've been wanting him on our podcast. He is incredible. And I feel like what he's doing is changing the way dentists are doing dentistry. I think he's kind of in this new age, new era, adapting with the times. And so was so excited to bring him on and have his knowledge. So welcome to the show, Dr. Robert DiPilla. How are you today?   Dr Robert DiPilla (00:25.484) I'm doing well. Thank you very much. I'm excited to be on your show. There are so many great things about you and your show. I I once again, I went back to some of your podcasts and you some great, great guests on.   Kiera Dent (00:37.376) Well, thank you. am quite shocked. Dental A Team is about to release their thousandth episode. And I was thinking, I cannot believe I've been on this microphone a thousand times. So I'm super honored that you are a part of that journey. And really everyone who listens to the podcast knows our ultimate goal at Dental A Team is to positively impact the world of dentistry in the greatest way possible. so bringing guests on like yourself, people who are passionate about dentistry, making sure that we keep the passion alive in dentistry, making sure that people realize   I believe we're in the best industry we possibly could ever be in. And so I'm super excited because I feel like you're taking a new edge spin to some things in dentistry. So before we get into some of these fun topics, Dr. DiPilla, why don't you take us through kind of your journey? I know you have a pretty interesting route of how you were able to go from where you were and where you started in dentistry to where you are today. So if you kind of want to take us on your journey, that way the audience gets to know you as well.   Dr Robert DiPilla (01:31.854) That journey starts 36 years ago. I graduated at the University of Detroit, Mercy in 1989, and I did a residency at Harvard at the Harvard Club for doing implants. And from that, I really was interested in the cosmetic realm. So you got to think about in the early 90s. And it was kind of like touched upon. And I was very fortunate.   to take a course with Bill Dickerson and Larry Rosenthal. And this is the first time they were together in doing these particular courses. And my first patient for my aesthetic course was my sister, believe it or not. when I mentioned this, it was an amazing journey. She was very appreciative. It was a great case. And from that, one interesting point.   Kiera Dent (02:16.68) Wow, that's brave, an aesthetic course.   Dr Robert DiPilla (02:30.828) when I was in the lecture and they were talking about different materials, different processes, the way to do things. I know once again, I just graduated, I did like a little surgical residency and I thought to myself, mean, the auditorium was packed, there's probably like a hundred students. And I'm like looking around and I'm thinking myself, am I the only dumb one here that doesn't know this?   I said, this is insane. And they're going over these seven different steps to do bonding and veneers. I'm like, my gosh, did I learn this in school? you   Kiera Dent (03:05.28) Did I skip that day? I promise I didn't miss too many, right? That's what you're probably thinking, like I was there.   Dr Robert DiPilla (03:10.237) I would promise I was there. But I promised myself since then, it was like a real, not say a low point in my life, but it was a low point in the sense of how come I didn't know this? And I kind of pride myself in understanding things and certain process and procedures. And I said, from that day, this will never happen again. So that journey led into teaching with Bill Dickerson before it was LVI and also   aesthetic advantage with Larry Rosenthal. And as you know, there were two separate groups and I had to make a decision on what camp was I going to go into. Was I going to do the LVI camp in Vegas? And mind you, I'm in Michigan. Or do I go to New York route? And my decision was New York was closer. So I went with Larry Rosenthal. So I was an instructor with him for about three or four years. And then I was invited to be a doctor in his office.   And I was there for a good 10 years. that journey right there was probably the highest point of my life in that particular aesthetic office. There was a lot of great contacts, a lot of great people that we met. And I always say everything is a blessing for me. I don't hold anything back as far as this was a disappointment. This didn't happen for me because I think everything is a growing experience.   So for me, being in Larry's office was really, truly, truly, like I said, a blessing. It was a great thing for my career. And then I knew that when I started having a family and kids, New York for me personally wasn't the place for me. Coming from the Midwest, Midwest values, I wanted to have the family where I grew up because my mom is still here and my extended family is here as well. So once again, from that, I left New York.   Kiera Dent (04:51.21) You   Dr Robert DiPilla (05:01.806) And then, but I kept a practice in New York as well, because I had a lot of patients to see. And I started my own practice in Birmingham, Michigan. And that was in 2000, probably 2003, 2004. And then from that, you know, we grew to five different practices. So it's been a really challenging once again, but it's been a great journey for us.   Kiera Dent (05:15.338) Wow.   Kiera Dent (05:25.706) That's incredible. And so I'm curious because when I first started as a dental assistant, one of the doctors that I worked for had a practice in California and Utah. And so every Thursday or Wednesday, I think it was, we would close out in California and he'd catch a flight and he'd go to his practice in Utah. He'd be there Thursday, Friday, fly home, and we do Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. So did you fly back and forth between your two practices?   Dr Robert DiPilla (05:45.93) I did the same thing. When I moved back to Michigan, I would work in Michigan Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, would fly out to New York and work Thursday and Friday. And then plus New York's a great city and I stayed for the weekend and I flew back the first flight out 6 a.m. on Monday morning to make it to my practice at 9 a.m. So I did that for seven years. So back and forth. then once again,   Kiera Dent (05:56.106) Yeah.   Kiera Dent (06:02.806) sure.   you   Dr Robert DiPilla (06:12.462) It was great. To me, people, how did you do that? Why did you do that? It was just my routine and it worked out really, really well. And then there was some point where I kind of have to slow down and kind of give that up a little bit because I wanted to build more practices in Michigan.   Kiera Dent (06:27.414) Sure. No, that makes sense. And I was just curious because when that Dennis would do it, I thought like it was so wild, but it made sense of how he was able to have the two practices. So it's either you fly back and forth for a while or you get associates. Did you end up keeping that practice in New York or did you have an associate running it or did you end up selling it and then focus in Michigan?   Dr Robert DiPilla (06:45.186) Yeah, no, I actually, believe it or not, a lot of my New York patients actually will fly to Michigan to have their work done. And then the rest is I gave it to a really good friend of mine, Dr. Michael Krause, that's in the city on 49th and Madison. So, you know, basically a lot of my patients just kind of ended up with him.   Kiera Dent (06:52.564) Incredible.   Kiera Dent (07:06.728) Amazing. And that's great to know. And I hope dentists heard that of when you are really great at your craft, they will fly, they will come to see you. And I think that that's something that's different in today's world. I think that it's very common for patients to fly other places rather than just going to their dentist down the street. I think people fly for different surgeries to different places. Now I think for your day in day out routine dental care, you'll probably stay closer to home. But also we only go six, like two times a year. So it's really not that much to travel if you want to.   Dr Robert DiPilla (07:25.919) percent. Yeah.   Yeah.   Dr Robert DiPilla (07:34.798) Yeah, there's a lot, know, as you know, there's a lot of patients that will seek out plastic surgeons and they will go to a certain destination if it's New York, LA or Miami. And that's the same thing with dentistry. I mean, I've been very fortunate. I've had a of patients from Miami that will fly up and for me to do their work, their veneers, New York, of course, all the way even from LA. So it's been it's been a wonderful thing. I'm very humbled, you know, to do that. I don't take that take that lightly.   Kiera Dent (07:40.214) Mm-hmm.   Kiera Dent (08:02.812) No, and I think that there's when you love what you do and you're really great at what you do, people fly. I mean, I am a dental snob. think being in dentistry, it makes me one of the worst patients. And so I'm always nervous. And so I do travel to dentists out of the state. And I think it's something of the world has changed. And so I love your journey. I love the passion you have. I love that you've built multiple practices. I think you bring an interesting perspective. And so I'm super curious because you've kind of gone into a holistic route as well. So   I'm curious, how do you go from dental implants, veneers, which feels very cosmetic, into holistic? Like what's kind of the bridge? How have you done that? Because I think people feel like I'm either traditional dentistry or I'm holistic dentistry. And I feel like you're bridging this gap. And I think the world is bridging this gap as well. I don't think it's as polarized as it used to be, but what's kind of your take on that and how did you transition? What got you excited about that? Give some insights.   Dr Robert DiPilla (08:53.684) I mean, you   You know, for you as you know, being a hygienist, know, to me, for our patients, we want to make sure that they have a healthy foundation. a healthy foundation is the bone and also the gingival tissue. And, you know, it doesn't matter how great of a cosmetic dentist you are, how great of an implantologist you are, the tissue has to be stable. It has to be making sure that, you know, the oral microbiome is sufficient.   Kiera Dent (09:05.299) Mm-hmm.   Dr Robert DiPilla (09:25.774) You got to make sure that the biofilm is eliminated. And one of the biggest things that, I mentor 22 doctors here in Michigan, from guys who've just, guys or gals who've just been out a year and guys like myself that been out for 36 years. One of the things that I try to impress upon them is that don't be a mechanic of the mouth. And my feelings,   is that dental schools right now, and once again, different than my era, is just really, they're really teaching you how to pass the board exams. And then the real age of dentistry is what you get after as far as continued education. And I think it's really important, as you know, even being a hygienist, is that you have a patient that comes back, yet you did scaling and root planning.   Kiera Dent (10:01.694) Right.   Dr Robert DiPilla (10:17.15) and you see him back in three months and they're saying, yeah, I brush every day, I floss every day, I have the water pick that you recommended, I'm doing the oral care, I'm doing this. And they come back and it's like, my God, are you really flossing? Are you really brushing your teeth? No, no, I am. But why is that? Why are we doing maybe supervised neglect or super profis? The question comes in is that we have to understand why, my biggest thing is the why, why is that happening?   You know, we incorporated now we're doing genetic testing, we're doing saliva testing for our patients because as we know, a lot of, you know, reintroduction of refractory periodontitis that happens. So even the same thing with my hygienist, you know, we're very strong in continuing education. We're very strong in not just scaling and root planing teeth, just for the matter of fact of doing it. And one of the things that, you know, my hygienist, they all know,   is that if you're doing Scanlan Root Planning, what type of attachment do you want back? So I think you have to have a strong foundation in histology. You have to know the periodontium very, very well. And a lot of times in school, yeah, yeah, that was that class. I had it, but this is what I want to do. So I think for us in dentistry, you have to move away from being that mechanic of the mouth, because I can teach my assistant to prep a tooth, easy. But you have to understand the diagnosis and the   Kiera Dent (11:26.774) you   Kiera Dent (11:38.368) you   Dr Robert DiPilla (11:42.094) And it also goes back to different materials. The whole rage now is zirconia, crowns, and it's a lot stronger. But is it really? Is it lithium disilicate, or is it philospathic porcelain? So I think there has to be an understanding of where to place those materials in the proper patients and proper occlusion. So because a salesperson comes in, oh, this is the latest and greatest, doesn't mean that you should buy it. So I think.   Kiera Dent (12:09.824) for sure.   Dr Robert DiPilla (12:10.894) For me, it's kind of taking a step back and understanding dental materials, understanding the periodontium, understanding all that. I the classes that we hated in school, believe it not, I've been doing this for 36, are probably the most important now than anything else.   Kiera Dent (12:25.67) No, for sure. And I'm so grateful you talked about that because agreed like the healthy foundations, I think it's so easily overlooked. So I'm curious, how did you start to incorporate this with your patients? Because you didn't come out of school having this, you didn't learn all these things right away, you started incorporating it. I think people are oftentimes afraid to add this into their practices due to patient pushback. So how did you, how did you educate your patient base?   Dr Robert DiPilla (12:48.702) Well, yeah, I think it's just having a good communication with your patient and being authentic. with our patients, we're there for them in a sense of we don't push anything, we don't sell anything, we just educate our patients. And a lot of times, if I've seen a patient for 10, 15, 20 years and I'm watching them get worse,   And, you know, I'll just have that, you know, that radical candor with them saying, hey, listen, you know, where do you want to go with this? What do you, how can I help you? You know, do you, mean, for some reason I'm watching you getting worse and I don't want that. So what can I do to help? And then we kind of castor them in that, in that direction as much as possible. You know, there's, we'll do a lot of like nutritional counseling and we see a lot of patients that, as you know, they come in, you know, they're not, they're not healthy. And I have the,   Kiera Dent (13:39.51) All right.   Dr Robert DiPilla (13:42.21) I guess the personality to talk to my patients and say, listen, I want you to see this person. I care about you. I've seen you for many, many times. And I just, you know, I see some things that I don't like. So what I want you to do, here's a referral. I want you to see them. And then nine out of 10 times they'll come back and say, my God, thank you so much. I didn't know I had this underlying condition.   Kiera Dent (14:07.84) That's incredible. And I agree that education, I think is the new age of communication. I think a lot of patients want to understand more. think we live in this digital era where people are consuming so much more information rapidly and they want to be educated and they want to know what's going on. And I do think social media has, has ramped this up exponentially for people to want more education rather than just blindly following. And so I really love that you took it that way. I want to ask you a couple of questions about   growth of practices because I think so many people grow practices or they feel that they need to grow practices or they need to expand their practices. I'm curious after having done that, you've had practices in multiple states, you've grown your, like walk me through, like when do you grow as a dentist? When do you not grow as a dentist? What are some things that you learned through that growth of multi-practice ownership, especially with dentists that are in today's world? I think that there are some that are brand new.   There's the DSO on the radar and on the horizon for people. Walk me through some of your thoughts around this practice growth, multi-location, when do I grow, what do I do with DSOs? I'm super curious because you've done it and you've done it for a long time. What are some of your thoughts around that?   Dr Robert DiPilla (15:08.718) 100%.   Dr Robert DiPilla (15:17.582) I'm going to let's go back when I was like I said, very fortunate to be in Larry Rosenthal's office in New York City. And everyone knows Larry Rosenthal is the premier, know, veneer office to go to. So I was once again, I was very, very fortunate to go there. But well, my dismay, I was the young kid.   Kiera Dent (15:37.364) It's incredible, by the way. like, like, let's just stop for a second. Like, that's incredible that you got to work there with him.   Dr Robert DiPilla (15:44.622) So think of a patient that's there, know, we had celebrity CEOs, we had every mogul you could imagine we had. And you got this young kid walking in and they're like, well, kid, move away, where's Larry? Where's Larry? So what I had to do, I had to kind of reinvent myself. And, you know, and I had to figure out what type of avatar patient, you know, do I want? And I think that it doesn't matter if I'm in New York, if I'm in Birmingham, Michigan.   Kiera Dent (15:44.947) Yeah.   Kiera Dent (15:57.715) Yeah.   Dr Robert DiPilla (16:11.274) I'm if in Salt Lake City, Atlanta, doesn't matter. You just have to figure out what avatar do you want. And then you kind of go where that avatar is. So an example, this is what I did. So in New York City, I need to get a haircut. So for me, I went to the biggest celebrity hairstylist you can get. And it was Orbe in New York City. And why did I do   Kiera Dent (16:37.556) Yeah. Okay. I mean, you do have great hair, by the way. So, I mean, it must have worked out for you. I like it. It looks great.   Dr Robert DiPilla (16:41.582) Well, thank you so No way. It's not what it Well, thank you. So I went to Orbe and why did I go to see him? Because Orbe has what a lot of celebrity clientele. And for me, it was building a relationship with Orbe. You come in, your first appointment, who are you? What do you do? Oh my God, yeah, I have a dentist and that, that, that. As you know, when you say you're a dentist or a hygienist, oh, by the way, can you look at this?   Kiera Dent (17:10.633) haha   Dr Robert DiPilla (17:11.758) So what that does is that it kind of opens up the dialogue as much as possible. So from him, I've been seeing him for two to three years. And once again, it's something that you always have to continue going. If you do it once or twice and it doesn't work, well, that's not going to happen. So they go into the gym, you work out once or twice, you're not going to be in shape. it's of those things that you perpetually just have to do. So I was very fortunate seeing him for years. And from that,   Kiera Dent (17:32.083) Right.   Dr Robert DiPilla (17:39.49) I had my own celebrity clientele that came into Larry's office. It was great. All right, how about another one? So I was fortunate they had the LA Reebok Club where I used to live on the Upper West Side. And then joined a gym, of course. And I wanted to find out who was the best trainer who trained all the celebrities. And then once again, the same thing. So I think it's important.   Kiera Dent (17:44.308) Mm-hmm.   Dr Robert DiPilla (18:06.818) you know, to find out because I'm going tell you a lot of the celebrities and a lot of moguls, they're not calling to make the appointment. They have someone as an assistant to make their appointments for them. So I'll give you an example. I was working out in East Hampton for a little bit because I bought a house in in Amiganza. And as I was doing this renovation, I never really worked on Fridays, but in East Hampton, I worked some Fridays and I was fortunate   that I had a logistics manager for the Rolling Stones that came in. Built a relationship with her. And then from that, because she's a logistics manager, she does everything for the Stones. So I was very fortunate. She called me up, hey, Mick has a concert tonight at Madison Square Garden. He wants his teeth cleaned. He wants them checked out. Can you do it? Sure. What time? Nine o'clock at night. What?   Kiera Dent (18:39.082) Well.   Kiera Dent (19:01.735) I'm   Dr Robert DiPilla (19:03.342) So those are the things that you have to do. If you want that type of avatar, you want that type of clientele, then you kind have to do whatever it takes to go above and beyond to make sure that that happens. So don't think that if you want that type of practice, there's going to be some sacrifices that you're going to have to do. So for me, my personal story, for me being in New York, I was so driven, driven, driven. That's all I did. That's all I did. And I was married at the...   at the time. you know, looking back in retrospect, it affected my marriage. So, you know, my ex-wife, we're great, we're still great friends, but it affected because I just, for me, I was driven. This is what I wanted to do. I was out. I was going to opening of galleries. I was opening up to restaurants and because I wanted to be successful. But with that, there are some consequences that come with it.   So you have to kind of be prepared. You they always say, you know, the balance of life, you know, what to do as far as your career and work. I mean, there is, but you're going to sacrifice, you know, somewhere. You can't have it all, as they say. So you're going to have to kind of give up some.   Kiera Dent (20:12.853) Great.   Do you, looking back, are you grateful that you've made the decisions you've made or do you wish you would have done things differently? Like knowing what you know now. Walk me through because I think people people often wonder this.   Dr Robert DiPilla (20:26.466) Yeah, there's no, for me, there's no regrets because even if there was a regret, I always look at it as something that will make me better down the road. mean, listen, we're all gonna have failures. Things are gonna happen, but you have to learn from that. I mean, for someone to say, this has never happened to me and da, da, da, either they're lying or they have not, they've just graduated yesterday. I didn't tell my associates the same thing and that they had a bad day.   Kiera Dent (20:49.724) Yeah.   Dr Robert DiPilla (20:56.046) patient was complaining or something, I said, listen, it's going to happen. As long as you know in your heart you did the right thing, that's all you can do.   Kiera Dent (21:05.593) I that. And I appreciate that because I think so many times people feel like I should have known this right from the get go. But I think a lot of learning is experiencing too. And so going through it and making different decisions. And like you said, what's the type of life? What's the type of avatar do I want? And then crafting your practice around that. I really love that you highlight. I feel like you crafted your practice and your craft around the avatar, patient and life that you wanted.   I think at the beginning you probably hustled a lot more than you thought you would need to, but I think that that's the beginning of practice ownership. I think that's the beginning of any career. And then you're able to then start to curate it into what you wanted it to be. And I think so many dentists don't realize that that is a possibility for you if you want it to craft it for what you want.   Dr Robert DiPilla (21:50.486) No, listen, mean, there's many different practices, as you know. There's the elite practices that are doing, know, veneers and an example who took over Larry Rosenthal's office is Mike Appa. Mike Appa is a great dentist. When I was leaving Larry's office, he was coming in and he took it to the next level. And I missed, from my era, we didn't really have Facebook or Instagram or anything like that. So I'm kind of like the, know, the lagger in that particular point.   But he took that and made it to a different level as far as his career going to Dubai. And now he has multiple, multiple practices. But once again, there is some sacrifices. I'm sure it has not come easy to him. He has put in a lot of work, a lot of time, a lot of dedication to craft that for him. I look at it as, man, that's amazing. Good for him. Other people can get jealous of that.   but they don't understand the hard work what it takes to get there. It's like the basketball player, like, my God, he's making all this, how did he get that? But he forgot all the thousands and thousands of hours being in the gym and also practicing. Sometimes we forget that.   Kiera Dent (22:58.037) Yeah.   Kiera Dent (23:03.55) Right. Right. I think that it's been so just I love I love your passion. I love the life that you've lived. I love the I love that you were so committed to never being that person and then look at how that that drive and that determination took you from where you were to where you are today. I'm curious speaking to dentists who are maybe I don't know two three four years out.   What advice would you give them from all your years of practicing of the things you've been able to do, the clientele you've had, the team you had? What would be advice you'd give to that population of dentists right now? Knowing everything you know, knowing the climate, knowing the, like I said, DSOs are on the horizon. Do I become a private practice owner? Do I work corporate? Do I own multi-practices? What would you give? Again, we're talking four or five years out. I feel like this is right where they're starting to get that itch. They've got their, they figured a lot of things out.   Well, what advice would you have for that dentist?   Dr Robert DiPilla (23:57.454) So it's funny that you say that because three of my associates, I have been out four to five years. And we get together, which is great, which I love is we get together once a month at my house over here and we kind of go over some kids' education things and just kind of talking to them as far as what their successes are, what their stresses are, and also what they're stuck. We call that three S's. And I always tell them, listen, I don't want you to be me.   Kiera Dent (24:03.528) Mm-hmm.   Dr Robert DiPilla (24:27.5) I want you to be you. If you're interested in Invisalign, then go for it. And I think that a lot of younger dentists feel that, my God, I have to do that endo. I have to do that extraction. I have to do that filling. I have to do this because there's so much money and debt from dental school and you can't do everything because something's gonna, you're gonna get hurt on one perspective.   My advice, I've been doing this, like I said, for 36 years, find out what you really, really love to do and then do that. Is it gonna pan off the next day? No, it's gonna take time. And I think we live in a world that it's instant gratification and everyone wants everything done yesterday. It's just the law of averages. You're just gonna have to do it, do it, do it, do it and keep it until you get there. For me, like I said, I was going for the implant route.   Kiera Dent (25:16.519) Right.   Dr Robert DiPilla (25:26.474) I loved surgery. And then I found that niche that I wanted to do was the aesthetic world. And then, okay, I'm doing some aesthetics. We're at Larry's office. We're doing 10 veneers on the bottom, 10 veneers on the top and the bottom. And I'm thinking to myself, yeah, the bite doesn't look that great. I said, well, there's something more to this. And then I went down to Rabbit Hole. I did Pete Dawson's chorus.   Kiera Dent (25:47.568) I'm   Dr Robert DiPilla (25:55.746) I remember at Panky. So I went another route as far as now doing full mouth rehabilitation. Going back to, you know, Facebook, Centric Relation, doing everything that needs to be done. How am supposed to get back to that? Right? And then, you know, getting there. So, you know, for me, that is my niche now. And from, you know, I'm building a bigger office in Birmingham. I think I'm crazy what I'm doing right now.   Kiera Dent (26:08.108) The baseball, that's a throwback.   Dr Robert DiPilla (26:25.016) but I still have passion for what I do. feel like, you when someone said, you've been out for 36 years, I feel like I've only been out for five years. I still love this profession. I love what it's given me, the opportunity, but sometimes I don't like the direction where it's going in. And that kind of goes back to what you mentioned about the DSOs. Don't get me wrong, I'm not popo-ing DSOs. I mean, I think there's a place for everyone.   Kiera Dent (26:33.611) Yeah.   Kiera Dent (26:47.198) Yeah, I'm curious on your take. You've been in this for a long time.   Dr Robert DiPilla (26:55.24) I mean, know dentists are in Medicaid offices, great. We know that patients are in PPO offices, great. Fee for service, better. And then also group practices that, you know, my associates are in. And then there's DSOs. Once again, I'm fortunate to be part of Dicama's group, and it's one of the premier law firms that have put all the DSOs together.   Kiera Dent (27:06.698) Yeah.   Kiera Dent (27:18.805) Mm-hmm.   Dr Robert DiPilla (27:25.358) And some are great, some are amazing, but some have failed. And I think one of the problems I feel that corporate has is that if you do the CEO, you're looking at what? You're looking at the numbers, you're looking at the metrics, right? You're looking at the KPIs. But if you're in the trenches, you can't treat every office as the same. It's different. The hygienist has a different personality. dentist has a personality. You have different patients, demographic of patients.   Kiera Dent (27:31.04) Right.   Dr Robert DiPilla (27:54.648) So I think for dentists, we're just a different animal as far as the field that we're in. It's very, very personal that we have as far as our offices. And like I said, I have five offices. All five are completely different. If I try to implement every single detail thing in Birmingham to do it in Detroit, no. Same thing in Detroit to do at Sinclair Shores, no. It has to be customized to that particular practice.   Kiera Dent (28:22.782) Yeah, no, and I think that's such wise wisdom because working with hundreds of offices, I don't have an A to Z cookbook. I don't tell them like implement this. I know systems that will work, but we customize it to your area because the patient base, like you said in New York compared to Birmingham, Michigan, they're going to be very different patients. They're going to have different needs, different like all of it is different. The pace of it is going to be different. Your attrition rates will probably look differently. And so I agree with you completely that   Dr Robert DiPilla (28:36.046) That's great.   Kiera Dent (28:52.52) Everything is not apples to apples. I'm curious, how do you lead all five of those practices? Do you have, like, what does your team structure look like? Because so many people do get stressed out with multi-practice ownership. What have you done to reduce that stress level for yourself and make sure that they're all successful?   Dr Robert DiPilla (29:06.262) Yeah. No, it's, we just had our all company meeting. I call it the summit meeting. And, you know, it's amazing that, you know, 10 years ago, I had one office and maybe four employees. Now I   Kiera Dent (29:13.672) Thank you.   Kiera Dent (29:20.928) Did you hear that everyone? 10 years ago. So this is something that in his 36 years of dentistry, he did 26 years. I also think people need to realize they sometimes feel like they're too old to open up multiple practices. They feel they're too far in their career. They needed to do this earlier. So I hope people are hearing your timeline of 26 years solo practice and now 10 years making five practices, but also there is a timeline around that. So continue please. But I just want to highlight, this was not an overnight thing for you either.   Dr Robert DiPilla (29:23.5) Years ago, Yeah. Single practice.   Dr Robert DiPilla (29:51.054) It's not. I'll go back and I'll tell you the reason why for that. And for me, like I said, going to New York, I wanted to be the best. I wanted to be that celebrity dentist. And when I came back to Michigan, I centered everything around me. People came, they flew in from out of state to see me. And one of the things, I can't scale me. And one of the things that I have to open up   Kiera Dent (30:12.63) Yeah.   Dr Robert DiPilla (30:20.174) the offices and kind of passed the baton to my other associates. So, you for me, that was like the biggest thing is the key is letting go. And like I said, we had a summit meeting two weeks ago. And like I said, I had five employees in one practice. Now I have five practices with close to 70 employees. You may say, my God, how do you do that? I hire smart people smarter than me.   Kiera Dent (30:43.082) Yeah   Dr Robert DiPilla (30:49.79) to do that. I have a great CFO. I have a great regional manager and I have great office managers. And one of the biggest things that we, we constant, constant role play a lot of the things that we do in the office. And why is that important? One of the things that we did when COVID happened, before we opened up, we had a month where we did Zoom calls.   like this, and we did a role play because when patients come back, they're gonna have questions. And what are we doing to protect them and ourselves? And it was really important for the front desk, it was really important for our managers, hygienists and assistants to make sure we're getting our message across. One of the things that I never wanna hear on the phone is if a patient asked a question,   and our front desk, our personal, I don't know. I don't know what we're doing. So, you to me, it's just having those questions answered. And what we did is I call it the kind of the soft opening, like what a restaurant would do before they opened up fully, they would kind of, you know, bring in some of their guests or their family members to have a soft opening. So that's what we usually do from that. But the main thing, you for me,   Kiera Dent (31:51.997) That's   Dr Robert DiPilla (32:15.112) is I just hire great people that are around me that will integrate the vision that I have. So there's a great book and I highly, highly recommend for dentists. And I know Gina Whitman very well, it's called Traction. I don't know if you've heard the book or. And it's amazing. And then the follow-up book is Rocket Fuel.   Kiera Dent (32:33.75) We are diehard traction people. We help offices with it. It is incredible. Yes.   Kiera Dent (32:41.903) Amen. When you were talking about integrator, was like, he's a visionary needs the integrator. Did you, did you hire?   Dr Robert DiPilla (32:45.198) I'm the 100%. I mean, for me, I'm definitely the visionary. know what I want to see. And then my CFL is the integrator. I have so bad ADD, I'm like, don't squirrel. Okay, what happened over here? No, no, no, no, get on track. We gotta do this. So for me, like.   Kiera Dent (32:57.848) you   Kiera Dent (33:03.382) How did you find your CFO integrator? you go through one of Traction's hiring things? Did you find them through? How did you find that integrator? Because I think that's such a key piece in growth. How did you find yours?   Dr Robert DiPilla (33:14.572) Well, luckily she was with us and within the company and we just hired up for her. She just went from low level to higher hiring and she got it. She understood the whole process. mean, when she read the book, she, I mean, my God, this is the missing piece for us. And I love that, that passion that she has for that and then just kind of put everything together. So I was very fortunate in that respect. But when we do our hiring,   Kiera Dent (33:21.462) amazing.   Kiera Dent (33:32.118) Yeah.   Dr Robert DiPilla (33:43.746) We hire within our culture and who we are. And sometimes it's difficult to do that. We did that right after COVID because some people didn't feel like they wanted to come back or didn't feel safe to come back as far as some employees, which is fine. And there was a shortage of dental assistants and hygienists wasn't an issue for us. It was more assistance. And I hate to say that we hired people that weren't the right fit.   Kiera Dent (34:08.97) Mm-hmm.   Dr Robert DiPilla (34:13.71) And I'm going to tell you that was a big mistake because it's going to take you longer to find another person. So I'd have no one. do it myself compared to not have the same, the right person that would fit in our culture.   Kiera Dent (34:29.974) I agree. That's wise wisdom. And I think so many people get desperate. And I mean, I've done it. I think we've all done it, right? We've all made those hires and we're like, agreed with you. We'd rather wait it out till the right person comes through rather than doing those desperate hires. And I think it's   Dr Robert DiPilla (34:41.966) Yeah, it works out. And really works out. I'm a true believer that, I mean, there is a plan and you just kind of have to wait it out and it comes in because the same thing in our downtown Detroit office, we were waiting for someone and we thought someone, oh my God, she's going to be great. Oh my God, she's moving from Boston. She's going to come here. She's ran a periodontal office. Oh my God, we love her. And then got ghosted. Like what the hell happened? And then the next day,   Kiera Dent (35:07.38) Mm-hmm.   Dr Robert DiPilla (35:10.85) We got another resume. Lauren, I mean, amazing. I mean, just that blessing that comes through. So I think the best thing to do is just wait it out, hire within your culture. And if they don't fit, they're not the right team member for you.   Kiera Dent (35:28.916) I love that. Dr. DiPilla, something I have found so fascinating with our podcast today, just so appreciative. I feel you have wisdom. And I think wisdom oftentimes lacks. And I think it comes from experience. I think you've learned from the things that you've done. I'm not saying you're old. I'm saying that I hear wisdom from you. And I think you had this wisdom even when you first started your career. I think you learned things. But I feel you lived your own.   Dr Robert DiPilla (35:42.114) You're saying I'm   Kiera Dent (35:56.438) I feel like you grew because you wanted to grow, not because you felt like you needed to. I feel like you waited when I'm sure a lot of your other colleagues were building multi-practices and you're like, this is what I'm enjoying doing. And what I've heard is as you've shifted and morphed throughout your career and the way you've presented it, it sounds like you've done it based on intrigue and curiosity and things that still keep the passion within you. And I feel like...   You're a great example of someone who can be practicing dentistry for 36 years and still have passion, fire and fuel behind it, rather than the what I see a lot of right now of burnout. And I was trying to put the pieces together as we were chatting and I'm like, I think honest to goodness, you've done everything because it was a passion and a curiosity and it fueled you rather than drained you. And I also really love that   you believe that there's a higher path for you. Like you said, it's just because one door is closing, it means the other door is opening, but that door is not quite ready yet. So be okay with this door closing. But that would how I would summarize you. Obviously, please fill in any gaps I may have missed. But I think that that's so refreshing to hear that I think a lot of us can take stock in and learn from you as well.   Dr Robert DiPilla (36:49.806) 100%.   Dr Robert DiPilla (37:05.474) Wow, well, thank you for that. That's, thank you. But for me, right now, I think it's important to, like I said, pass the baton to my other dentist and kind of elevate them as much as possible. And I think if you're in a group practice or if you're in a single practice, sometimes we live on our own little island and you don't know where to do. would...   Kiera Dent (37:10.197) You're welcome.   Dr Robert DiPilla (37:31.66) get a couple of your friends, colleagues, whatever, just go out to a restaurant, hang out and kind of talk your story. Because we're all in it and we all go through the same things. And maybe I'm blessed with mental resiliency, I don't know. I mean, there's a lot of things that are kind of thrown at you. But for me, for my upbringing, mean, things bother me, don't get me wrong, I am human.   But I know that my purpose is stronger than the noise that hear that's behind me. And for me, where am I going to go from here? What's the next 10 years look like? And For me, my legacy and what I want to hear is that when I'm long gone and a patient goes to another dentist and says, hey, who's your other dentist? And I say, well, I went to DiPilla All I want to hear is that, you know what?   Yes, I heard great people. That's all I want to hear. You went to one of the best. That's it. That's all I want to hear. I mean, I that's my legacy is that make sure that we as a group, as a team or organization, we've done the right thing by you and also by the the patients and also our team too. We got to take care of our the team that supports us very,   Kiera Dent (38:54.25) That's beautiful. And I think as you said that I think maybe a takeaway from today would be figure out the legacy that you want to leave. think that that legacy, just did a mastermind group with some people in person and I had them write when they were, you know, I didn't give them an age. I just said, when you're sitting back looking at your life, what do want to feel? What do you want to experience? And what do you want it to be said about you?   And it was crazy because people started making different decisions in that moment because the legacy of who they want to be and what they want to leave behind radically shifts what you're doing today. And I think that that's a beautiful takeaway from today. I have loved our conversation. I thoroughly enjoy you as a human. I think you're just doing a beautiful work, an example of keeping the passion alive in dentistry and doing great things no matter what's going on. any last thoughts you have, how can people connect with you?   Dr Robert DiPilla (39:34.926) Thank you.   Dr Robert DiPilla (39:44.238) I think for anyone guys who have been graduating, this is like the best time to be a dentist. I mean, I'm so excited. mean, the technology is amazing. Things that we used to do before and we can do now, digital workflow, 3D printing, AI, it's amazing. So, for me, I go into work every day. I'm very passionate what we need to do. But for me,   It's time for me to kind of like maybe work maybe in the chair once or twice a week and then work on the business. And that's where I'm more passionate about as well. And then kind of like I said, elevating everybody else. But once again, this has been a real, real pleasure and I can see your passion as well and much, success for yourself.   Kiera Dent (40:28.682) Likewise, thank you so much for joining today, Dr. Tafilla. I hope everybody who's listened takes away a few golden nuggets and gems because I really do believe there was so much value and wisdom in this podcast today. I think that there's so much beauty. love podcasting with people like yourself that are just so optimistic of the future. So thank you for joining us and for all of you listening. Yes.   Dr Robert DiPilla (40:49.816) My pleasure.   Kiera Dent (40:53.78) All of you listening, thank you for joining us. And as always, thanks for listening. I'll catch you next time on the Dental A Team Podcast.  

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As I was writing my Heaven Bible study, every time a podcast guest said something about Heaven, I saved it for later. Well, I finally got to go back through those recordings and found so many nuggets of truth that I just had to share with you. You'll get to hear from the Kendrick Brothers, Karen Kingsbury, Joni Eareckson Tada, Lee Strobel, Kathie Lee Gifford, and others whose godly wisdom and eternal perspective will encourage you deeply. Plus, you'll get to hear the voice of someone very special to me—my hero dad—from a sermon he gave just a few months before he died. And do you know what he talked about? Heaven. SHOW NOTES: 413Podcast.com/333 Read the episode TRANSCRIPT in the show notes. Get my weekly email, Java with Jennifer, to be notified when a new podcast episode releases. Subscribe HERE.

Originally published August 8th, 2023 On this week’s episode, Craig talks to his friend of many years - Kathie Lee Gifford - an American legend who needs no introduction. Kathie shares the emotionally compelling story of her run-ins with Howard Stern, expresses her love for Craig and Ricky Gervais (her two favorite comedians), and highlights her views on Jesus, faith, and science (along with how each comes together in her everyday life). This is part 1 of a two-part interview - look for part 2 to be released in a future upcoming episode. enJOY!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ina Garten narrates her memoir with the same precision, charm, poise, and irreverence exhibited on her “Barefoot Contessa” television productions. Host Jo Reed and AudioFile's Michele Cobb discuss an audiobook that would make a great companion for anyone cooking up a storm in the kitchen. Garten's philosophy has been to make quick decisions and “dive in”—figuring it all out later. Garten's narration is measured, personal, and absorbing. This is a memoir not to miss if you enjoy Ina Garten, food, and restaurants—or if you simply want to be ready to apply your special talents when the luck happens to you. Read our review of the audiobook at our website. Published by Random House Audio. Discover thousands of audiobook reviews and more at AudioFile's website. Support for AudioFile's Behind the Mic comes from HarperCollins Focus, and HarperCollins Christian Publishing, publishers of some of your favorite audiobooks and authors, including Reba McEntire, Max Lucado, Kathie Lee Gifford, Bob Goff, Lysa TerKeurst, and many more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Fans of Jean Hanff Korelitz's THE PLOT will rejoice at this sequel, performed with mesmerizing skill by the wonderful Julia Whelan. Host Jo Reed and AudioFile's Michele Cobb discuss this story of a lethally dislikable character, Anna, and how Whelan narrates this twisty tale. Anna is a monster of ego, incapable of sympathy for anyone but herself. She is also brilliant, fearless, and like most psychopaths, contemptuous of others. This causes her to underestimate them, which leads to potentially fatal mistakes. Whelan's achievement here seems like a little miracle, relentlessly compelling and wonderfully satisfying. Read our review of the audiobook at our website. Published by Macmillan Audio. Discover thousands of audiobook reviews and more at AudioFile's website. Support for AudioFile's Behind the Mic comes from HarperCollins Focus, and HarperCollins Christian Publishing, publishers of some of your favorite audiobooks and authors, including Reba McEntire, Max Lucado, Kathie Lee Gifford, Bob Goff, Lysa TerKeurst, and many more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scott Brick can be relied upon to deliver intensity in every audiobook he narrates, but he outdoes himself in this story of a family on the run in a world gone mad. Host Jo Reed and AudioFile's Michele Cobb discuss Blake Crouch's audiobook that truly had Michele on the edge of her seat. Jack doesn't know why Americans started killing one another in a pointless frenzy of rage, but it's up to him to keep his family safe. Brick's frantic performance forces listeners to empathize with the desperate Jack as he narrowly escapes the killers. It's an intense and graphic listen but one you won't be able to put down. Read our review of the audiobook at our website. Published by Random House Audio Discover thousands of audiobook reviews and more at AudioFile's website. Support for AudioFile's Behind the Mic comes from HarperCollins Focus, and HarperCollins Christian Publishing, publishers of some of your favorite audiobooks and authors, including Reba McEntire, Max Lucado, Kathie Lee Gifford, Bob Goff, Lysa TerKeurst, and many more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Anyone who likes to cook will be inspired to get into the kitchen after listening to this audio program. Host Jo Reed and AudioFile's Emily Connelly discuss Deb Perelman's audio companion to her newest cookbook, SMITTEN KITCHEN KEEPERS. Perelman is one of the original food bloggers and creator of the beloved Smitten Kitchen website, and listeners can hear her eagerness to share all she's learned over the years. Her tips and reflections on selected recipes make for a relaxed, friendly listening experience. A perfect accompaniment for any kitchen endeavor that will have you cooking up delicious food in no time. Read our review of the audiobook at our website. Published by Random House Audio. Discover thousands of audiobook reviews and more at AudioFile's website. Support for AudioFile's Behind the Mic comes from HarperCollins Focus, and HarperCollins Christian Publishing, publishers of some of your favorite audiobooks and authors, including Reba McEntire, Max Lucado, Kathie Lee Gifford, Bob Goff, Lysa TerKeurst, and many more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jason Isaacs is clearly having a rollicking good time narrating Kate Atkinson's latest Jackson Brodie novel. Host Jo Reed and AudioFile's Robin Whitten discuss this audiobook jammed full of Agatha Christie tropes—butlers, vicars, nobles, retired veterans, and detectives all trapped in a great house in a snowstorm—but they're all turned on their heads. Isaacs develops a myriad of distinct accents with hugely appealing dashes of winking amusement and heart. He builds both the drama and the absurdist humor to a laugh-out-loud crescendo. An uplifting and joyful audio escape for everyone. Read our review of the audiobook at our website. Published by Random House Audio. Discover thousands of audiobook reviews and more at AudioFile's website.     Support for AudioFile's Behind the Mic comes from HarperCollins Focus, and HarperCollins Christian Publishing, publishers of some of your favorite audiobooks and authors, including Reba McEntire, Max Lucado, Kathie Lee Gifford, Bob Goff, Lysa TerKeurst, and many more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This action-packed thriller from Jeffery Deaver and Isabella Maldonado is performed with skill by André Santana and Aida Reluzco. Host Jo Reed and AudioFile's Robin Whitten discuss this fast-paced, nonstop audiobook filled with twists, turns, and well-developed characters, good and evil. The seamless narration enhances the suspense, making this an engaging listen. Fans will eagerly await the next installment in this new series. Read our review of the audiobook at our website. Published by Brilliance Audio.  Discover thousands of audiobook reviews and more at AudioFile's website.      Support for AudioFile's Behind the Mic comes from HarperCollins Focus, and HarperCollins Christian Publishing, publishers of some of your favorite audiobooks and authors, including Reba McEntire, Max Lucado, Kathie Lee Gifford, Bob Goff, Lysa TerKeurst, and many more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Revelation 12:11 says that “they triumphed over him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony.” In today's episode, Stasi is joined by her dear friend Cyndi Fudickar, who bravely shares her story of brokenness, healing, and God's unshakable faithfulness—a conversation that will deeply resonate with each of us. Stasi and Cyndi explore the power of testimony—how our valleys and mountaintops can reveal God's heart and ignite hope in others. Friends, we hope this conversation encourages you with the truth that you are seen, cherished, and chosen by the One who meets you right where we are, with love that never fails. Listen in, be blessed, and feel His presence afresh today.…..SHOW NOTES:…..REGISTER — Ablaze: Setting Hearts on Fire for Jesus   wildatheart.org/ablazeAblaze is an exclusive six-week online journey, beginning Tuesday, January 14, 2025For more information or to register, visit wildatheart.org/ablaze…..VERSES: Revelation 12:11 (NLT) — They triumphed over him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death.John 15:14–17 (NLT) — You are my friends if you do what I command. I no longer call you slaves, because a master doesn't confide in his slaves. Now you are my friends, since I have told you everything the Father told me. You didn't choose me. I chose you. I appointed you to go and produce lasting fruit, so that the Father will give you whatever you ask for, using my name. This is my command: Love each other.Ephesians 1:5-6 (NLT) — God decided in advance to adopt us into his own family by bringing us to himself through Jesus Christ. This is what he wanted to do, and it gave him great pleasure. So we praise God for the glorious grace he has poured out on us who belong to his dear Son.2 Thessalonians 1:2 (NLT) —  May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.John 15:15 (NIV) —  I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.…..RESOURCES:Song: The God Who Sees by Kathie Lee Gifford and Nicole C. Mullenhttps://spoti.fi/3YRNMOyWild at Heart App: https://wildatheart.org/appWild at Heart Prayers: https://wildatheart.org/prayPause App:  https://www.pauseapp.com/Lectio 365: https://wahe.art/3Ckq7xGFind a Captivating Retreat near you: https://wahe.art/48LnpNFJohn Ortberg quote – "Everyone has a story. your story is important. Your story matters to god, and no one gets the story they want.”…..Don't Miss Out on the Next Episode – Subscribe for FreeSubscribe using your favorite podcast app:Spotify Podcasts – https://spoti.fi/42SsOipApple Podcasts – https://apple.co/42E0oZ1 Google Podcasts – http://wahe.art/3M81kxLAmazon Music & Audible – https://amzn.to/3M9u6hJ

Joe Jameson shines in this psychological thriller by Michael Robotham. Host Jo Reed and AudioFile's Robin Whitten discuss this story of Cyrus Haven, a forensic psychologist, and Evie Cormac, a troubled young woman in his care. Haven and Evie find themselves getting closer to solving the mystery of Evie's past. Jameson brings everything to life with his animated narration, elevating the story with his vivid performance. Every character, major or minor, takes on a clear personality through Jameson's inflections, tones, and accents. Read our review of the audiobook at our website. Published by Simon & Schuster Audio. Discover thousands of audiobook reviews and more at AudioFile's website. Support for AudioFile's Behind the Mic comes from HarperCollins Focus, and HarperCollins Christian Publishing, publishers of some of your favorite audiobooks and authors, including Reba McEntire, Max Lucado, Kathie Lee Gifford, Bob Goff, Lysa TerKeurst, and many more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jean Brassard, Louise Penny's choice to narrate her 19th Three Pines novel, proves an inspired selection. Host Jo Reed and AudioFile's Robin Whitten discuss how Brassard, a native Quebecois and an award-winning actor, gets each character right. Domestic terrorism takes Armand Gamache, Jean-Guy, and Isabelle from Montreal to the Vatican and to an isolated French monastery. Brasard's accents—whether French Canadian, Italian, or continental French—create indelible characters, and his pacing and storytelling skills are stunningly good. Listen to find out what awaits Gamache in this latest memorable mystery. Read our review of the audiobook at our website. Published by Macmillan Audio.  Discover thousands of audiobook reviews and more at AudioFile's website.      Support for AudioFile's Behind the Mic comes from HarperCollins Focus, and HarperCollins Christian Publishing, publishers of some of your favorite audiobooks and authors, including Reba McEntire, Max Lucado, Kathie Lee Gifford, Bob Goff, Lysa TerKeurst, and many more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Narrator Kristin Atherton brings us to the tiny South Atlantic island of Tuga de Oro. Host Jo Reed and AudioFile's Robin Whitten discuss Francesca Segal's story of a London vet who journeys to Tuga to study endangered tortoises, but finds out more about herself along the way. Atherton creates a delightfully engaging performance. She creates memorable voices for each character, adding depth and emotion to each, from the growling, grumpy Pastor to the new island doctor and the lovable community of Tuga that embrace her in surprising ways.  Read our review of the audiobook at our website. Published by Harper Audio.  Discover thousands of audiobook reviews and more at AudioFile's website.      Support for AudioFile's Behind the Mic comes from HarperCollins Focus, and HarperCollins Christian Publishing, publishers of some of your favorite audiobooks and authors, including Reba McEntire, Max Lucado, Kathie Lee Gifford, Bob Goff, Lysa TerKeurst, and many more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rick Bass delivers these essays—old and new—at a deliberate pace and a careful tempo. Host Jo Reed and AudioFile's Alan Minskoff discuss his voice and delivery, which sound kindly and literary. Reared in Texas, Bass retains a slight twang, and he is soulful, sincere, and aspirational. A fiction writer and essayist, he is also an environmental activist, and a number of these texts center on the horrific aftermath—asbestosis and mesothelioma—of the mining that took place near his adopted home in the Yak Valley of Montana. A memorable collection. Read our review of the audiobook at our website. Published by HighBridge Audio. Discover thousands of audiobook reviews and more at AudioFile's website. Support for AudioFile's Behind the Mic comes from HarperCollins Focus, and HarperCollins Christian Publishing, publishers of some of your favorite audiobooks and authors, including Reba McEntire, Max Lucado, Kathie Lee Gifford, Bob Goff, Lysa TerKeurst, and many more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This delightful travel audiobook features commentary and an accompanying pdf of photos of unique, quirky, and splendid sites around the world that emulate renowned film director Wes Anderson's visual style. Host Jo Reed and AudioFile's Alan Minskoff discuss the fun of this listen. Seamus McMahon is a capable narrator, while Jeff Goldblum's well-tuned variations in tone and pace make for particularly irresistible listening. Travelers, architecture buffs, and the simply curious will find much to listen to and look at here. Read our review of the audiobook at our website. Published by Hachette Audio. Discover thousands of audiobook reviews and more at AudioFile's website.     Support for AudioFile's Behind the Mic comes from HarperCollins Focus, and HarperCollins Christian Publishing, publishers of some of your favorite audiobooks and authors, including Reba McEntire, Max Lucado, Kathie Lee Gifford, Bob Goff, Lysa TerKeurst, and many more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Canadian producer and actress Panta Mosleh embraces these essays from author andrea bennett. Host Jo Reed and AudioFile's Alan Minskoff discuss this mix of personal revelations, food prep experiments, and observations on foodways, family, and life. Mosleh narrates with a strong voice and clear tone and neatly adopts the author's sometimes interrogative style. A poet, editor and essayist, the author tries recipes, stores seeds, experiments with various crops and methods of resisting pests in their home in British Columbia. They write well on the joys of carrots and the importance of seed saving.  Read our review of the audiobook at our website. Published by ECW Press. Discover thousands of audiobook reviews and more at AudioFile's website.       Support for AudioFile's Behind the Mic comes from HarperCollins Focus, and HarperCollins Christian Publishing, publishers of some of your favorite audiobooks and authors, including Reba McEntire, Max Lucado, Kathie Lee Gifford, Bob Goff, Lysa TerKeurst, and many more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Celebrity chef Tom Colicchio, who has achieved fame for his restaurants, television shows, and five James Beard Awards, turns his considerable energy to his memoir. Host Jo Reed and AudioFile's Alan Minskoff discuss narrator Will Damron's talented performance of the chef's memoir. Damron brings this food-centered story vividly to life and gets Colicchio's voice, cadence, and sometimes hectic recollections just right.  Colicchio's story ranges from his Jersey beginnings to his early notoriety at New York's famous Gramercy Tavern and Craft and his food-centric political causes. The author's candor is refreshing, and his favorite recipes enliven the text.  Read our review of the audiobook at our website. Published by Hachette Audio. Discover thousands of audiobook reviews and more at AudioFile's website.      Support for AudioFile's Behind the Mic comes from HarperCollins Focus, and HarperCollins Christian Publishing, publishers of some of your favorite audiobooks and authors, including Reba McEntire, Max Lucado, Kathie Lee Gifford, Bob Goff, Lysa TerKeurst, and many more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Stanley Tucci may someday be as famous as a food writer as he is as an actor. Host Jo Reed and AudioFile's Alan Minskoff discuss the fun of listening to Tucci narrate his candid memoir. He plays with tone and tempo like a jazz musician, and he knows how to be ironic, self-effacing, witty, and charming, yet his performance is most satisfying because of his restraint. Tucci is a creative gourmand who is mischievous (he whispers his preparation of pigeon breasts) and masterfully ends each section with suggestions, recipes, appreciations, and observations. Since he's an Italophile and pasta devotee, his greatest love is, of course, la cucina Italiana.  Read our review of the audiobook at our website. Published by Simon & Schuster Audio. Discover thousands of audiobook reviews and more at AudioFile's website.      Support for AudioFile's Behind the Mic comes from HarperCollins Focus, and HarperCollins Christian Publishing, publishers of some of your favorite audiobooks and authors, including Reba McEntire, Max Lucado, Kathie Lee Gifford, Bob Goff, Lysa TerKeurst, and many more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Siena East—a Choctaw writer, comedian, and actor—performs this romance novel from debut Chickasaw author Danica Nava. Host Jo Reed and AudioFile's Kendra Winchester discuss the author's delightful storytelling and narrator's ear for dialogue, making for an all-around enjoyable listen. After sending out countless job applications with few responses, Ember Lee Cardinal decides to exaggerate her work experience on her next application. She lands the job and meets her new co-worker, Danuwoa Colson, the only other Native person at her new office and the most handsome man she's ever seen. East's strong comedic timing enhances Ember and Danuwoa's witty banter, and she captures their whirlwind workplace romance. Read our review of the audiobook at our website. Published by Penguin Audio. Discover thousands of audiobook reviews and more at AudioFile's website. Support for AudioFile's Behind the Mic comes from HarperCollins Focus, and HarperCollins Christian Publishing, publishers of some of your favorite audiobooks and authors, including Reba McEntire, Max Lucado, Kathie Lee Gifford, Bob Goff, Lysa TerKeurst, and many more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Personally Speaking, Msgr. Jim Lisante is joined by the Emmy Award winner, actress, singer, television host and author Kathie Lee Gifford. She has written a new book called “Herod & Mary: The True Story of the Tyrant King and the Mother of the Risen Savior”.Support the show

Kathie Lee Gifford shares her inspiring journey of faith with Kelly Wright. They discuss her latest book, ‘Herod & Mary: The True Story of The Tyrant King and The Mother of The Risen Savior.' Also, they discuss her award winning career in television and music. Plus, Kathie Lee discusses her miraculous healing of her recent fractured pelvis. Watch Kathie Lee Gifford: A Profile of Faith on America's Hope with Kelly Wright. ⭕️Watch in-depth videos based on Truth & Tradition at Epoch TV

This week, Taylor, Sandy, Doug Jordan and Taddea Richard discuss Kathie Lee Gifford's hospitalization, Cameron Mathison and Wife Vanessa's split, an eel that chewed through a man's intestines, a 7-year-old's 9/11 visage and much, much more! The all new segment Doug Jordan's: Paris 2024 Olympic Breakdown debuts!

Kathie Lee Gifford returns to studio 1a to catch up and discuss her recent health struggles. Also, the Paris Games come to New York as Gabby Thomas joins TODAY on the plaza to reflect on her Olympic experience. Plus, take advantage of a few steals and deals as summer winds down, with products up to 73% off. And, chef Tonya Boudy shares a delicious coconut shrimp recipe.   

Kathie Lee Gifford joins the program from a HOSPITAL bed. How and why, we may never know. She discusses her new book "Herod and Mary: The True Story of the Tyrant King and the Mother of the Risen Savior (Ancient Evil, Living Hope)"See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

King Herod is probably one of the most, if not the most, ruthless character in the Holy Bible. Brilliant, but evil. And yet, his paranoia that led him to kill several members of his own family and issue an edict to kill all the children under two in Bethlehem and Jerusalem, still wasn't enough to thwart God's plan, the birth of a Savior. This is why Kathie Lee Gifford, TV personality, best-selling author, singer and composer, is fascinated with this character. On this episode of Lighthouse Faith podcast, Gifford talks about her newest book "Herod And Mary: The True Story Of The Tyrant King And The Mother Of The Risen Savior",  plus her recovering from her health emergency and the faith that is getting her through it all. Gifford researched the historical documents on King Herod and found some interesting swaths of information, like his friendship with Marc Antony and Cleopatra, Rome's power couple. But also, Herod may have occupied a blip in the biblical narrative, but his historical presence was significant, a master architect and powerful politician. But his undoing was his debauchery and derangement. Gifford says Herod's story is a testament to the fact that "When the world thought nothing more evil could be happening in the world, something far more glorious than anything that had ever happened was happening in the womb of a little teenage girl from Nazareth." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You know them from being blacklisted from the Bulgarian podcast charts. You know them from leading the boards in Estonia. And third most likely, you know them from their podcast Too Beautiful to Live! This week Lindy West and Meagan Hatcher-Mays sit down with Luke Burbank and Andrew Walsh for round two of their crossover series, and Lindy did NOT have to frantically Google their names and bios during the recording this time.Our tidings are full of bad pans and youth-infested homes. Lindy's deep dive into her daughter's weekend stay at their cabin leads to a detective-worthy investigation, while Meagan's love for the Olympics turns her into a proud violently patriotic American

Though you best know her from your television screen, today's guest has a brand-new book highlighting the drama and the shocking dark-side of one of the Bible's most evil figures.   TV Personality and author Kathie Lee Gifford shares a message of light and hope amid darkness as detailed in her new book, Herod & Mary: The True Story of the Tyrant King and the Mother of the Risen Savior. Later, Kathie Lee and Janice discuss how their faith and family have supported them during times of pain and hardship. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jason is joined by TV Personality and New York Times Best-Selling Author Kathie Lee Gifford to discuss her new book Herod and Mary: The True Story of the Tyrant King and the Mother of the Risen Savior. Kathie reflects on her incredible career from co-Hosting Live! with Regis and Kathie Lee to writing musicals. Plus, Kathie shares the importance of being committed to your faith and exemplifying biblical principles in your everyday life. Plus, Jason breaks down the failure of the secret service to protect former President Donald Trump and the ensuing events at the RNC. Bringing On The Stupid: Florida Man Has No Clothes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Glenn gives his thoughts on President Trump's speech on the last day of the RNC. Artist Thomas Blackshear joins Glenn to discuss his latest joint project with Mercury Studios and where he finds inspiration for his art pieces. Author and actress Kathie Lee Gifford joins Glenn to discuss her newest book, "Herod and Mary," a fictional-thriller retelling of an often-untold biblical story. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Glenn gives his thoughts on President Trump's speech on the last day of the RNC. More and more high-profile Democrats are reportedly calling for Biden to drop out of the race. The Democrats continue to paint Trump as authoritarian, but Glenn and Stu point out Biden's continual effort to forgive student loans even after the courts have rejected it. Pat Gray joins Glenn and Stu to discuss the latest security failures that occurred that nearly cost former President Donald Trump his life. Is Kamala Harris vetting possible running mates in the chance that Biden drops out? The guys discuss Trump's changed tone and demeanor during his first speech after his almost assassination. Artist Thomas Blackshear joins Glenn to discuss his latest joint project with Mercury Studios and where he finds inspiration for his art pieces. Author and actress Kathie Lee Gifford joins Glenn to discuss her newest book, "Herod and Mary," a fictional-thriller retelling of an often-untold biblical story. Lastly, Glenn previews the latest episode of "The Beck Story" podcast.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On Tuesday's Mark Levin Show, Butler, Pennsylvania is a tiny town with a small police force. The idea that the Secret Service, with all its resources, would be relying on the local police to protect the perimeter is so outrageous. The Secret Service should have been on top of every building and drones should have been in the air. It's now known that the Secret Service ramped up more security after learning about an Iranian plot to assassinate President Trump. Iran is the enemy and President Biden is funding them to the tune of billions of dollars and undermining Israel. What do we know about the Secret Service director? She got her job after a push from Jill Biden. Jill Biden is acting as president. Also, Biden is waging war on the Supreme Court, he is set to announce support for major Supreme Court changes. Biden is proposing the destruction of the separation of powers. He wants to use the power of Congress, which doesn't have the power, to change the terms of Supreme Court Justices. Later, the effort to get rid of Biden is back. The DNC is trying to nominate Biden virtually, well before the convention, so Democrats can't pick another nominee and get rid of Biden. Finally, Kathie Lee Gifford calls in to discuss her new book, Herod and Mary: The True Story of the Tyrant King and the Mother of the Risen Savior. https://www.amazon.com/Herod-Mary-Tyrant-Mother-Ancient/dp/1400336627 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One of Hollywood's hottest stars, Glen Powell, discusses the upcoming film he stars in, ‘Twisters,' where he plays a rodeo star turned tornado wrangler. Also, Hoda talks one-on-one with Simone Biles, who opens up about her return to gymnastics and the upcoming Olympic Games in Paris. Plus, Kathie Lee Gifford returns to Studio 1A to talk about her new book ‘Herod and Mary' and play a fun game with Hoda and Jenna. 

How much do we know about one of the least understood figures in the Bible?   TV Personality and author Kathie Lee Gifford uncovers the story of King Herod's tyrannical rule and shares a message of hope and faith in her new book, Herod and Mary: The True Story of the Tyrant King and the Mother of the Risen Savior. Kathie Lee details the true story of Herod's evil ruling and suffering and contrasts it with the message of redemption carried by Jesus' mother, Mary. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jackie Gonzalez-Durruthy, the NEW co-host of You Should Know Better! for Season 3 faces off against her husband/comedian Patrick Babbitt (Short film: LUMP) in four rounds of trivia in this special REWIND episode. Jackie is playing for USA for the UN Refugee Agency and Patrick is playing for Chesapeake Bay Foundation. If you love Kathie Lee Gifford and super tight games - this one is for you! Follow us @youshouldknowbetterpod - rate, subscribe and review!

Listeners will be drawn into KJ Charles's atmospheric and compelling historical mystery. Host Jo Reed and AudioFile's Emily Connelly discuss this story of friendship—and betrayal. In 1895, Oxford University student Toby is murdered—and his close friends know that one of them must have done it. Ten years later, Jem sets out to solve the mystery that ruined his life once and for all. As the story moves back and forth in time, narrator Tom Lawrence effectively differentiates Jem's less rarified accent and those of his wealthy, upper-crust peers. Lawrence also conveys Jem's growing desperation as the further his investigation goes, the more secrets are revealed and the more danger Jem finds himself in. Read the full review of the audiobook on AudioFile's website. Published by Storm Publishing. Discover thousands of audiobook reviews and more at AudioFile's website. Support for AudioFile's Behind the Mic comes from HarperCollins Focus and HarperCollins Christian Publishing, publishers of some of your favorite audiobooks and authors, including Reba McEntire, Zachary Levi, Kathie Lee Gifford, Max Lucado, Willie Nelson, and so many more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Narrators Mia Hutchinson-Shaw and Evan Sibley are a winning team in this charming romance. Host Jo Reed and AudioFile's Emily Connelly discuss Sarah T. Dubb's story that's a perfect mix of birding and falling in love. Mom and teacher Celeste is trying to find herself again after a divorce; John is a woodworker and amateur birder. Celeste is a complete newbie to birding, but she agrees to be John's partner in the 42-day Bird Binge competition—and to pose as his girlfriend. Hutchinson-Shaw ably conveys Celeste's bubbly, positive personality, while Sibley captures John's shy outward demeanor and thoughtful inner world. Attraction sparks as John and Celeste add birds to their list in the beautifully described Arizona wilderness. Read the full review of the audiobook on AudioFile's website. Published by Simon & Schuster Audio. Discover thousands of audiobook reviews and more at AudioFile's website. Support for AudioFile's Behind the Mic comes from HarperCollins Focus and HarperCollins Christian Publishing, publishers of some of your favorite audiobooks and authors, including Reba McEntire, Zachary Levi, Kathie Lee Gifford, Max Lucado, Willie Nelson, and so many more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Host Jo Reed and AudioFile's Emily Connelly discuss how Judy Alice Lee narrates this action-packed space opera with skill. Ocean is a talented pilot and wicked shot working for the Korean space agency on the OHNEUL. Her best friend Teo's ease and flirtatiousness shine through in Lee's narration, shifting into desperation when his ship comes under attack. Haven is an outsider when he joins up on the OHNEUL's crew, and Lee's quiet voice reflects his thoughtful, cautious nature. Lee brings warmth to scenes of tentative romance, shipboard camaraderie, and many delicious meals. And when raiders attack, Lee ramps up the pace, making listeners feel all of the tension. Read the full review of the audiobook on AudioFile's website. Published by Hillman Grad Books. Discover thousands of audiobook reviews and more at AudioFile's website. Support for AudioFile's Behind the Mic comes from HarperCollins Focus and HarperCollins Christian Publishing, publishers of some of your favorite audiobooks and authors, including Reba McEntire, Zachary Levi, Kathie Lee Gifford, Max Lucado, Willie Nelson, and so many more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Vico Ortiz narrates a raucous space adventure rom-com with infectious energy. Host Jo Reed and AudioFile's Emily Connelly discuss the fun and thrills of this lively story. It's 2061, and Cleo and her three best friends—all scientists—sneak aboard to explore the neglected rocket PROVIDENCE I. Twenty years earlier, it failed to launch and its 203-person crew mysteriously vanished. But when Cleo inadvertently starts the dark matter engine, they're launched into a seven-year mission with only Billie, the prickly holographic computer, to guide them. Ortiz's considerable acting talents bring each character—human and otherwise—to life. They bounce between each voice with skill, making this lively story of friendship, queer romance, and interdimensional danger heaps of fun on audio. Read the full review of the audiobook on AudioFile's website. Published by Harper Audio. Discover thousands of audiobook reviews and more at AudioFile's website. Support for AudioFile's Behind the Mic comes from HarperCollins Focus and HarperCollins Christian Publishing, publishers of some of your favorite audiobooks and authors, including Reba McEntire, Zachary Levi, Kathie Lee Gifford, Max Lucado, Willie Nelson, and so many more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Meridian's clans are at war, and alliances are shifting dangerously in this dramatic conclusion to Rebecca Roanhorse's trilogy, brought to life by an ensemble cast. Host Jo Reed and AudioFile's Emily Connelly discuss how the narrators' skilled performances slowly reveal the many entangled storylines. Shaun Taylor-Corbett skillfully portrays Serapio as he navigates prophecies and plots against him. Nicole Lewis voices Xiala, whose determination and desperation are palpable as she protects her island home. Naranpa, portrayed by Cara Gee, is exploring the dreaming world with dangerous consequences. Christian Barillas brings drama to the character of Lord Balam, who wields deadly shadow magic in his quest for power. Read the full review of the audiobook on AudioFile's website. Published by Simon & Schuster Audio. Discover thousands of audiobook reviews and more at AudioFile's website. Support for AudioFile's Behind the Mic comes from HarperCollins Focus and HarperCollins Christian Publishing, publishers of some of your favorite audiobooks and authors, including Reba McEntire, Zachary Levi, Kathie Lee Gifford, Max Lucado, Willie Nelson, and so many more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

David Alan Grier, Kathie Lee Gifford and Doug Benson joined Adam and Dr. Drew and it did not disappoint!