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Send us a textToday, we've got another edition of The Two Kens with my good friend and fellow podcaster, Ken Fong. This time, we dive into the bizarre breakup between Donald Trump and Elon Musk — a political feud that feels like your parents fighting in public. No one's enjoying it, but everyone's watching. Trump, the undisputed Master of Distraction, still knows how to hijack the media cycle like nobody else. But Musk? He's backing down, but MAGA world is squirming.We'll also take a hard look at an aging Democratic Party, struggling to reach a younger generation. Legends like Bernie Sanders and the young and compelling AOC, efforts are underway to counter-balance the callous, authoritarian strategies of this administration. And then there's David Hogg, now a DNC vice chair, who came out of the Parkland tragedy and has become a bold voice for Gen Z.We'll unpack L.A.'s recent ICE and National Guard deployment, Mayor Karen Bass's leadership, and how Gavin Newsom is responding to Trump's provocations — including that military birthday bash set for June 14.I give a shoutout to my nephew Otto Kemp, who just jumped from the Triple A Iron Pigs to the big show - on the starting roster with the Philadelphia Phillies.Darcy and Dane McKenzie: A Minnesota military family speaks out: No troops to quell protestsSupport the showBecome a Patron - Click on the link to learn how you can become a Patron of the show. Thank you! Ken's Substack Page The Podcast Official Site: TheBeachedWhiteMale.com

Le samedi 5 avril marquera le Nomination Day en vue des élections municipales. L'Alliance du Changement alignera 120 candidats, tandis que le PMSD, le MSM et le Mouvement Patriotique ont choisi de ne pas y participer. Cependant, les partis non traditionnels se disent motivés à bloc et prêts à s'engager pleinement dans la course électorale. Le Muvman Liberater (ML) sera bel et bien en lice lors des prochaines élections municipales, affirme Ken Fong, ancien maire de Beau-Bassin/Rose-Hill et membre du parti, en s'appuyant sur la confirmation de son leader, Ivan Collendavelloo. Le nouveau parti de Tania Diolle, Republik Sitwayen Popiler, concourra dans trois villes, mais concentrera principalement ses efforts sur Quatre-Bornes, où il présentera 20 candidats. De son côté, Anil Gayan, qui vient de lancer son parti "Vre ML", est encore en phase de finalisation de sa liste de candidats. Il prévoit d'annoncer les noms définitifs ce jeudi. Alors qu'En Avant Moris a choisi de se focaliser sur la Ville de Beau-Bassin/Rose-Hill, où il alignera 24 candidats, son leader, Patrick Belcourt, sera en lice pour le poste de maire. Avec une présence marquée des partis non traditionnels, ces élections municipales s'annoncent disputées.

Send us a textEver heard the word patrimonialism? Neither had we—until we read Jonathan Rauch's eye-opening article in The Atlantic: "One Word Describes Trump." In this episode of The Two Kens, Ken Fong and I dive into what this term really means and why it's the key to understanding the new administration. Patrimonialism, a concept from sociologist Max Weber, describes rulers who claim to be the symbolic “father” of the people—personifying and controlling the state. Sound familiar? We break down the administration's first 60 days including mass firings, legal overreach, and dismantling of key government services; renaming the Gulf of Mexico and Mount Denali (yes, really); trade wars, territorial ambitions including Canada, Greenland, the Panama Canal, and the chaos strategy at play. We also talk about my letters to Senate Majority Leader John Thune—picked up by Politico and The New Yorker—urging him to take a stand. Plus, we tackle the Democratic Party's challenge in fighting back against this Republican power grab. Join us for this timely and critical conversation.  SHOW NOTESBecome a Patron | Ken's Substack PageSupport the showBecome a Patron - Click on the link to learn how you can become a Patron of the show. Thank you! Ken's Substack Page The Podcast Official Site: TheBeachedWhiteMale.com

In this latest installment of the Two Kens collaborative series between Ken Fong and Ken Kemp, they introduce a term that respected German sociologist Max Weber first introduced 100 years ago that they believe best describes what Donald Trump is working hard to accomplish in his second term, and how knowing this term also tells us how best to thwart Trump's efforts. They were inspired by Jonathan Rauch's article in The Atlantic that appeared on February 24, 2025, entitled One Word Describes Trump: A Century Ago, A German Sociologist Explained Precisely How the President Thinks About the World. Fong and Kemp then look at the different responses to Trump's recent State of the Union address, especially how Senate Majority Leader John Thune appears to be subjugating his evanglical convictions to appear steadfastly loyal to President Trump.

Kemp and Fong agree. We need each other now more than ever. Steve Bannon predicted the strategy of this new administration. He declared, “We're gunna flood the zone with sh*t.” He was prophetic. The Zone has experienced a flash flood. The two Kens thought the new President's intent would be to drain the swamp - but the flash flood of Executive Orders, the defunding, the closures, the pardons have all had the intended effect. None of us, not the politicians, not the media, not the pundits - none of us can keep up. The two podcasters review several articles that have been illuminating. One tells the story of Hungary: Viktor Orbán's takeover of their vibrant democracy, turning it into an authoritarian state. The Atlantic published a thorough review of the history of Hitler's first 53 days - in which he dismantled Germany's democracy by using the Constitution to accomplish that goal. And then, V.P. J.D. Vance emerges as an amateur theologian, justifying the neglect of the marginalized by coming up with a “God-ordained hierarchy” that in essence, gets us off the hook for caring for our neighbors. It's a collaboration of the Two Kens to stay on the alert, speak the truth, and maintain our vigilance. SHOW NOTESSOURCES:VOX - Their democracy died.They have lessons for America about Trump's power grab. Hungarians who lived through Viktor Orbán's 2010 power grab warn Americans: Act now, before it's too late by Zach Beachamp February 5, 2025ATLANTIC - HOW HITLER DISMANTLED A DEMOCRACY IN 53 DAYS He used the Constitution to shatter the Constitution. By Timothy W. Ryback, JANUARY 08, 2025JD Vance accidentally directed us to a crucial moral question: Just ignore the godawful reading of Christianity he used to get there. VOX by Sigal Samuel, February 6, 2025Become a Patron | Ken's Substack Page | Affirmative Action - Lessons from the SuperBowlNUMBER 401Support the show

Ken and Betsey review over five years of Beach Talks as Ken posts the podcast's 400th episode. Three friends check in to celebrate -  Darcy McKenzie, Osahon Obazuaye, and Ken Fong. Betsey, a Chicago resident, shares some of her experience this month spending three delightful weeks in Tuscon - the Arizona Desert. Ken and Betsey then compare notes on the new administration's first two weeks in power. It's been a firehose of headlines, including those controversial cabinet appointments, an avalanche of executive orders, bizarre explanations (for Southern California fires and then those terrible plane crashes), targeted attacks on D.E.I., inflationary tariffs, trade wars, and plans to absorb Canada, Mexico, Panama, Greenland, and now Gaza under America's domain. Elon Musk takes the axe to congressionally mandated programs. Oh - don't forget - it's now “The Gulf of America” and “Mt. McKinley.” Predictions of the imposition of the feared Project 2025 (which the then-candidate for President claimed he knew nothing about) turn out to be way understated. Turns out, it was a detailed script for these first two weeks. The President and his supporters said they would “drain the swamp,” but it looks more like Steve Bannon's colorful prediction - that on Day One, Trump would “flood the zone with sh*t.” Ken and Betsey commit to keep this podcast and their Beach Talks going - we need each other now more than ever.Become a Patron | Ken's Substack PageSupport the show

When Ken Fong saw the flames coming over the ridge from his front yard, he voluntarily evacuated along with his adult daughter. His home church, First Baptist of Pasadena, opened its doors to evacuees. Fong joined them for two nights. Ken Kemp, dealing with power outs, high winds, and menacing fire danger, called on Ken for a conversation around this catastrophic fire season - especially for Pacific Palisades and Altadena. Fong's wedding, scheduled for this weekend, meant that a late-night departure from his home included a tuxedo and patent leather shoes. At the church, Ken shares the dramatic collection of painful stories he encountered the two nights he slept in the church. In addition, the two Kens talk about the passing of President Jimmy Carter and his powerful legacy.Ken's Substack | Become a PatronSupport the show

Ken joins Ken Fong for a morning after the election review. It's not so much an autopsy on what went wrong as it is a reflection of their visceral response to the news that the 45th President won a decisive victory. He will become the 47th President of the United States. More than half the nation is celebrating this week - but celebrating what? The other less than half is deeply disappointed, fearful, depressed, and stunned. Once again, pollsters missed it. As a former senator put it, “Fear sells. Anger sells. Retribution and revenge sell. Us versus Them sells.” But an appeal to “the better angels of our nature”? Not so much. The two Kens call on several sources for insight and perspective, including Frank Schaeffer, Nadia Bolz Weber, and Robert Reich. Become a Patron | Ken's Substack PageSupport the show

After Trump was declared the winner over Harris, long-time friends and podcasters Ken Fong and Ken Kemp felt a need to see how the other was doing. If, like them, you're in shock that more than 70 million fellow Americans chose to give Trump another turn as the most powerful person in the free world, you'll probably find a degree of comfort in knowing that you're not alone.

The two Ken's reconvene at about 23 days out. The predictions seem to be coming true. The conspiracies, the threats, the misinformation, the falsehoods, and name-calling all proliferate. Kemp and Fong remain stymied that the race could possibly be this close. From the outset, the Two Kens make movie recommendations: Kemp - Bad Faith and Fong - Conclave. It opens up a conversation about Catholicism, J.D. Vance's conversion and the legacy of Vatican II. As the election closes in, there are hopeful signs. Malcolm Gladwell and Michael Moore weigh in. Kamala Harris's energy and focus remain strong - she seems undeterred by the vicious, fabricated attacks. She appears fearlessly in a wide range of interviews across the media spectrum. With the former president's and his running mate's fallacious charges of theft, mismanagement, and “incompetence,” they frustrate recovery efforts prompted by the twin hurricane tragedies - Helene and Milton. The former president's claim of superior genes and the suggestion that undocumented immigrants carry “bad genes” comes right out of the blatantly racist pseudoscience of eugenics.  They finish with some suggestions on how to survive until election day - and better, to do all we can to secure this critical victory.    SHOW NOTESBecome a Patron | Ken's Substack PageSupport the show

The Two Kens are back with their take on the Presidential Debate. Just a few days later, the spin masters have already had their impact, obscuring Kamala Harris' blistering victory over her opponent, Donald Trump. Most everyone agreed, including Republican politicians and pundits, that Harris won. Kemp and Fong recorded the day after the debate, with fresh commentary from start to finish. Harris took command from the beginning, with a confident handshake and greeting to a surprised and hesitant Trump. Some 67 million viewers watched the debate. The Two Kens celebrate “the sweet smell of hope” as Harris keeps the high energy enthusiasm alive. She invites the television audience to take in a Trump rally to see the madness for themselves. Trump takes her bait, reverting to crowd size, tropes about immigration, Project 2025, and insane asylums. Perhaps his most outrageous Trump comment was his self-assured claim that immigrants “are eating the dogs!” When challenged by a fact-checking moderator, he doubled down. This false claim has sparked a huge controversy and put the town of Springfield, Ohio in the crosshairs of bomb threats and racist attacks. Trump pathetically visited the “Spin Room,” claiming a victory that was not his. It's a lively retrospective on an historic night.Ken's Substack Article - “They're Eating the Dogs”Become a Patron | Ken Fong's Podcast PageSupport the show

My very special guest this bonus episode is Doreen Wong. You're going to get to hear from her because she said 'yes' to me twice last week. She accepted my surprise proposal of marriage on September 3rd, and then the next day she finally accepted my invitation to join me on my podcast to tell the miraculous story of how we've come back together fifty-plus years after we broke up before the end of her senior year in high school. Miracles do happen!

The morning after the 2024 Democratic Convention closed with a dazzling acceptance speech from Kamala Harris. Ken Fong joins Ken for a week's end review. Harris is the first woman of color in history to receive a party's nomination for President of the United States.      Kemp's Substack Article became the theme of their talk, rooted in Abraham's Inaugural Address from 1861 when he appealed to “the better angels of our nature.” They compare and contrast the RNC with the DNC. The Republican's dystopian theme - “this country is going to hell” - will be remembered as a stark contrast with the Democrats by claiming “a future and a hope” and by calling for freedom from the unAmerican blueprint of Project 2025. Kemp says, “The DNC is an appeal to the better angels of our nature.” They discuss the poignant comments of Frank Schaeffer - the “atheist who believes in God” - on the presidential contest. The son of the famed Christian apologist Francis Schaeffer, Frank Jr. predicts utter disaster if Donald Trump wins. The two Ken's hit the highlights of the week - Joe Biden's passing of the baton to Harris. Michelle Obama's lightning bolt of a speech riveted everyone in the packed arena and the millions of us who tuned in. “Who's going to tell him that the job he's currently seeking might just be one of those ‘Black jobs'?” she said. The surprise appearance of the Central Park Five reminded us of Trump's efforts to have these innocent men executed. So many more. Adam Kinsinger. Gabby Gifford. Republican Mayor John Giles. Oprah Winfrey. Doug Emhoff. Kamala's sister, Maya. Tim Walz's rousing acceptance speech as his son Gus celebrated through his tears with irrepressible joy. And finally, the nominee herself, Kamala Harris accepted the nomination to the roar of the crowd. “America, let us show each other - and the world - who we are. And what we stand for. Freedom. Opportunity. Compassion. Dignity. Fairness. And endless possibilities.”Become a Patron | Ken's Substack Page | Asian America the Ken Fong PodcastSupport the Show.

On this Erasing Shame conversation, Rev. Dr. Ken Fong explains the difference between toxic shame and healthy shame—how they're two different things. Toxic shame carries the message that there's something inherently wrong with oneself, leading individuals to either blame others or internalize the feeling and become worthless. Healthy shame, on the other hand, acknowledges mistakes and wrongdoings, allowing for growth and the reception of grace. He also shares insights into the cultural significance of shame in the Asian American community and the importance of authenticity and healthy connections in a chaotic world. • Asian America: The Ken Fong Podcast asianamericapodcast.com • Show Notes at erasingshame.com

The two Ken's check in the day after the GREAT DEBATE. While Ken Fong refused to make pre-debate predictions, Ken Kemp did. In the pre-debate Beach Talk with Betsey Newenhuyse, they anticipated that the energetic, focussed, forceful “State of the Union Joe” would appear. Most Republican commentators, including the 45th President, did, too. That's why they concocted stories about Joe's “cocaine habit” (or, according to the Speaker of the House, Mountain Dew.) The two Ken's share their personal reactions as the 90-minute debate dragged on - with Biden badly missing his marks and Trump spewing what Ken Fong calls “a firehose of lies.” CNN's Vann Jones shares his visceral reaction. But the question now is - where from here? What are the alternatives? The two Ken's have a surprising possible candidate. SHOW NOTESBECOME A PARTON | Ken's Substack PageSupport the Show.

Continuing the conversation around the first-ever criminal conviction of the former President, Ken reaches out to Ken Fong. The two podcasters further explore the implications of this watershed, historical moment. Fong opens the podcast by quoting Fox sports writer Colin Cowherd on the trial's outcome. The MAGA Republican spin masters (including Mike Johnson, John Cornyn, Steve Scalese, Elyse Stefanik and many others) are working overtime to convince the American people that the verdict is meaningless. Without evidence or shame or pause, they assert that this is a politically motivated attempt to disrupt the presidential election initiated by the Biden administration, a “weaponization” of the justice system, and a frontal, personal attack on the presumed nominee of the Republican party. When the verdict came down, the two Kens exchanged texts - and that prompted Kemp to write his seventh letter to Senator John Thune, who joined in the chorus of Republican politicians to add to the spin. The two Kens affirm together that the time has come to tell the truth about the fitness of the Republican nominee. Fong draws on several articles that make a powerful, accurate, and compelling case. SHOW NOTESBecome A Patron | Ken's Substack | Ken's John Thune LettersNOTE: According to a 2014 National Science Foundation survey, 26% of Americans believe the sun revolves around the Earth. The survey also found that only 74% of participants knew that the Earth orbits the sun, and only 48% knew that humans evolved from earlier species of animals.Support the Show.

In this powerful and insightful episode of the Immigration Nerds podcast, host Lauren Clarke sits down with Dr. Ken Fong, host of the Asian America Podcast, to celebrate Asian American Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander (AANHPI) Heritage Month. Lauren is also joined by Alejandra Zapatero, partner at Erickson Immigration Group, for a timely discussion on essential summer travel tips. From passport validity to visa appointment wait times and required documents, you'll hear all the crucial advice to help ensure a smooth international travel experience for immigrants when you hit play.GUEST: Dr. Ken Fong, Host, Asian America PodcastHOST: Lauren ClarkeNEWS NERD: Alejandra ZapateroPRODUCER: Adam BelmarSHOW RESOURCE LINKS:Asian America: The Ken Fong PodcastAsian & Pacific American Heritage Month

Laura Bullard on Vox, suggests that the UMC tells us something about America. Recently, the denomination voted, by policy, to be fully inclusive of the LGBTQ+ community, eliminating any and all restrictions regarding membership, leadership in the church and ordination for clergy roles. The vote tallied in at 479 to 203 in favor of the historic change. Bullard posits that in America, most of the population would agree - and yet, in conservative Christian churches and denominations, there remains clear and stubborn opposition - often rooted in a reference to “Biblical Authority.” The two Kens - Ken Fong and Ken Kemp, reflect on their own journey - a change of mind and heart. They celebrate with the majority of the UMC - but recognize the new “Mason Dixon Line” that, like slavery and the Civil War, has triggered an exodus from liberal “mainline” churches. They have flocked to conservative “evangelical” churches that stake their claim on their myopic understanding of their 2,000-year-old sacred text that has created a crushing polarization - at a monstrous cost. This “controversy” has taken an enormous toll in broken lives, broken families, and split churches - not to mention the heavy cost of legal battles, raging denominational splits, massive wasted expenditures and endless arguments over real estate. Ken and Ken share their lament; but also their hope - that folks will take time to think again. The rewards are many. SHOW NOTESBecome a Patron | Ken's SubstackSupport the Show.

In this latest episode of the collaborative series between longtime friends, former pastors, and fellow podcasters Ken Fong and Ken Kemp, they talk about whether the recent decision by the United Methodist denomination to remove all barriers that had prevented LGBTQ+ persons from experiencing full inclusion is a lens through which to view and understand what's happening in America.

John Jay Alvaro is Lead Pastor of the historic First Baptist Church of Pasadena. A friend of the Center for Restorative Justice, John Jay opened the door for the Center to move their offices into the church facility. The website puts it this way: “First Baptist Pasadena is a passionate, diverse, quirky, and kind congregation. We know that God loves this world, so we love fiercely, too. Spend some time among us and you will see what we mean.” When Ken and Betsey Newenhuyse visited the church with their friend Ken Fong (who is an active member), they came to appreciate the accuracy of that description. In this conversation held in John Jay's distinctive office at the church, the two explore John Jay's experience at Duke Divinity School and how he became the lead pastor. They review his little booklet titled “Ordinary Theology” (The Bible, God, Jesus, Eschatology) and how John Jay led the church to become fully inclusive. The website posts the question: MY STORY AND IDENTITY IS…COMPLEX. WILL THERE BE ROOM FOR ALL OF ME AT THIS CHURCH? Answer - “We are a fully inclusive church, so the simple answer is Yes(!) … Membership/leadership is not contingent on sexuality, gender, race, income, or doctrinal minutia.” Ken prompted John Jay to tell his story - a story we all need to hear. SHOW NOTESBecome a Patron | Ken's Substack PageSupport the Show.

Ken Fong and Betsey Newenhuyse join Ken Kemp for a special edition - The Two Kens and Beach Talk. Betsey made her third annual trip to California and the studios of the Beached White Male podcast. The three friends join together to interact over their weekend and a conversation is triggered by an unlikely Atlantic article (April 3, 2024, Issue) they all read - The True Cost of The Church Going Bust by self-described agnostic, Derek Thompson. In it, Thompson writes, “More than one-quarter of Americans now identify as atheists, agnostics, or religiously ‘unaffiliated,' according to a new survey of 5,600 U.S. adults by the Public Religion Research Institute. This is the highest level of non-religiosity in the poll's history.” The two Kens and Betsey discuss their church experience, especially the Sunday they spent together at the First Baptist Church of Pasadena (Ken Fong's home church). Thompson argues, as a non-believer, that something profound is lost should communities of faith disappear in America. This episode has been released on both this podcast and Asian America The Ken Fong Podcast.Atlantic Article | Become a Patron | Ken's Substack - The Bible SalesmanSupport the show

In this latest installment of The Two Kens series, friends and podcasters Ken Fong and Ken Kemp roll up their sleeves to have difficult conversations about three issues that involve borders or boundaries, i.e., immigration at the U.S. southern border, the war in the Gaza Strip that to a growing number of people--especially Millennials--is looking like the genocide of the Palestinian people, and whether heaven and hell are real, and if so, who decides who's going to which place?

The southern border crisis, Gaza, and untenable beliefs prompt Kemp and Fong to cut loose in a lively discussion. The podcast allows these two retired former pastors to share their genuine convictions without fearing losing their employment. Kemp shares his experience at the opening in the "Big Beautiful Wall," near the small town of Jacumba featured in this week's edition of 60 Minutes. Current headlines reveal that the do-nothing Congress has failed again to act. Funding is desperately needed to bring relief to border agents, manage processing, and stem the tide of out-of-control crossings. Fong takes the conversation to Israel and the unfavorable response to Biden's support for the Netanyahu government's "overkill" in the Gaza war. The two Kens review some theological assumptions rooted in long-held beliefs that are indefensible today. Fong has been asked to address his views on heaven and hell with a group of retired ministers and missionaries - it opens up a free-wheeling review of the two Kens' theological journey on the subject. SHOW NOTESAsian America the Ken Fong Podcast | Become a PatronSupport the show

The two Kens celebrate the news that Ken F has rediscovered his high school sweetheart. On a recent episode of Asian America the Ken Fong Podcast, Fong shared his budding affection for Doreen with his audience. Kemp shares in the celebration and happiness as Ken and Doreen begin their sweet courtship.  As we approach the holiday season, Fong asks Kemp to read his most recent Substack essay, The Baby and the Bathwater. They reflect on the version of Christmas they experienced in their formative years. It centered on an apologetic that made their faith primary - with an assumption of superiority. Kemp shares an interview (Jamin Coller) on his podcast where he learned about a Pastor-Dad who rejected his adult son (and his family) because he expressed his doubts as he entered into a phase of "deconstruction." All too often, a literalist, toxic, fundamentalist religion tragically alienates family members. Kemp shares what he has learned from Joseph Campbell and Carl Jung about religious symbol, myth and archetype. While the arrival of a child for some can be burdensome on many levels, for the Two Kens, the arrival of children and grandchildren evokes the same wonder, promise, and joy we witness in the Christmas scene we call The Nativity. SHOW NOTESBecome a PatronSupport the show

Just this week. the two Kens both encountered church-related, disconcerting setbacks.  Kemp learned via an official, public email blast that the lead and founding pastor of the church that gave birth to the Center for Racial Reconciliation has been put on immediate leave of absence for "inappropriate texting." Just after recording this conversation, Fong uncovered some unsettling news from a chance encounter in the grocery store with a former parishioner. From the pulpit of a nearby sister church on Sunday morning, the senior pastor openly charged by name Fong and three other pastors (one deceased) by name as "false teachers" and "wolves in sheep's clothing." In this episode, the two Kens unpack some of the many challenges of "mega-church" and the prevalence of vulnerable, celebrity pastors. Fong recalls his doctoral dissertation in which he contributed to the literature of the church growth movement. He disavowed much of that research when he published his 1999 book, Pursuing the Pearl. Mega-churches mimic the "Big Box" phenomena, they've become akin to Walmart, Target, and Costco. Some years before he retired, Fong intentionally and willingly opened his church doors and now his podcast to the LGBT+ community. It signaled a change of heart and mind. The church lost members because of that decision but gained a whole lot more. Kemp accepted Fong's challenge to follow suit on this podcast. The two podcasters agree - if we are committed to the "ministry of reconciliation" to marginalized people groups - that should include them all. Kemp and Fong suggest that real church is something more. Much more.Both Kens release this conversation on each of their podcasts. You can find Ken's edition at Asian America the Ken Fong Podcast, including a telling introduction here.Support the show

Ken Fong recently returned from scattering his beloved wife Snoopy's cremains in the turquoise-blue clear water between the Mokulua Islands on the windward side of Oahu. For years, every time they would visit Lanikai Beach, Snoopy would remind him that that would be the final resting place of her earthly remains. After cancer claimed her this past July, Ken, daugther Janessa, Snoopy's brothers Darren and Greg, and her best friend Tanya put their heads together to figure out how to fulfill this request.  Co-host Ken Kemp has been part of this difficult journey and when they got together a few days ago, he not only wanted to express how impactful the memorial service was, but to ask Fong whether harnessing his creativity was a helpful way for him to process his grief. It's an unusual conversation on many different levels, and one that you're really going to appreciate. Here's the link to the 3rd video: https://vimeo.com/857689287?share=copy

In my Christian tradition, we were taught that we are all created in the imago Dei, the image of God. According to our scriptures, that idea entered human consciousness from the very beginning, when God played the role of Creator. He (our English translation of the Bible uses the male pronoun) created ex nihilo, out of nothing. If we are made in that image, then we were made to create, too.Ken Kemp and Ken Fong have journeyed through the unwelcome loss of Sharon (Snoopy) Fong, culminating in a beautiful memorial service this month. As Kemp contemplated the Two Kens conversations leading up to the memorial, he thought about the creative energy that sustained his friend Ken Fong. It was a white-knuckle roller coaster ride up and down, high and low - from using every means at their disposal to kill the cancer and preserve Snoopy's life; to bargaining, to grieving, to hoping, to despairing, and finally to letting go. Kemp shares his deep gratitude for what he learned along with the Fongs this summer. Kemp shares that Ken Fong's creativity has carried him through as he passed the "valley of the shadow" along with his beloved life-long partner, Snoopy. Creativity has high therapeutic value in getting us through grief, hardship and loss. In this episode of the Two Kens, Kemp and Fong recount the planning and execution of a truly remarkable memorial service bringing to light an extraordinary life well lived through music, story, photographs, and homily. If you were able to attend the service in person or online, you will want to hear this back story of thoughtful preparation from the church where Fong had been lead pastor for some four decades and on to the waters of the Pacific Ocean between the two Hawaiian islands where Snoopy's "cremains" were joined as one to the wind and sea.Ken Fong's Facebook Page | Sharon's Life Story |  Ken's Hawaiian FarewellSupport the show

This week's Beach Talk takes us to the shores of Maui and the tragic fire that stunned the world. The losses are immeasurable. The New York Times speaks to the pastor of the oldest church on the island. Ken shares something of the profoundly moving memorial he attended for his friend Sharon "Snoopy" Fong (born and raised in Hawaii) - Betsey tuned to the live stream along with some 1,600 others from all over the country. There's lots to think about from this woman, gone too soon, who was married for more than forty years to Ken's podcasting partner, Ken Fong. Finally, they unpack the indictments this week in the State of Georgia - RICO charges identifying a conspiracy of some nineteen individuals seeking to overturn a legal presidential election. At the top of the list - the 45th President.Sharon "Snoopy" Fong MemorialSupport the show

Sheena Yap Chan paved the way for Asian podcasters through the Tao of Self-Confidence. When she started, she knew of only one other Asian podcasters, Ken Fong. Find out what her podcast was initially called, the reasons she advocates for diverse representation in media, and how embracing aging is a beautiful and powerful way to lean into self-confidence. ========================================== Full Bio: Sheena Yap Chan is The Wall Street Journal Bestselling author, keynote speaker, consultant and award winning podcaster on leadership and self-confidence. She is also the founder and host of the award winning podcast, The Tao of Self-Confidence where she interviews Asian women about their inner journey to self confidence. Her podcast has gotten over one million downloads to date and has interviewed over 800 women on the topic of confidence. She has interviewed celebrities, 8 figure CEO's and more. Sheena has been featured on MindValley, FOX, ThriveGlobal, Manila Times and more. She is the TOP 10 Self Confidence/Self Love Coaches to Follow which was featured in Disrupt Magazine. She is also the co-author of the International bestselling books called Asian Women Who BossUp and International Women of Color Who BossUp. Sheena's debut book with Wiley, The Tao of Self-Confidence: A Guide to Moving Beyond Trauma and Awakening the Leader Within is also The Wall Street Journal and Publishers Weekly bestselling book. To find all her books and podcast, check out https://thetaoofselfconfidence.com/ ========================================= Today's episode was generously sponsored by Lavender, an online psychiatry & therapy office brought together by two nurses on a mission to help increase access to mental health care. Their group of psychiatric nurse practitioners is creating a space where feelings are felt, respected and cared for. Learn more at joinlavender.com ========================================= Don't miss any updates by signing up for the Color of Success Newsletter here

After a courageous, tireless battle, Sharon "Snoopy" Fong left us on July 1, 2023. This Two Kens episode is the twenty-seventh time Ken Fong and Ken Kemp have come together for a podcast conversation - this time, it's a somber, solemn occasion.  It's a moment of reflection - filled with both grief and gratitude. Today's title comes from C.S. Lewis, the British literary critic, and scholar who was also known as an Anglican theologian. His writings have influenced many generations of faith seekers, including ours. Professor Lewis was known as a committed bachelor, but he married later in life. When Joy Grisham began corresponding with the stuffy Oxford don, he was smitten - "surprised by joy (Joy)" as he put it. As their romance blossomed, Joy Grisham was unexpectedly diagnosed with a cancer that took her life, all too soon. Lewis' shared his written reflections. His honesty and candor stunned many of his Christian readers because he openly expressed tidal waves of doubt, even anger that his "good" God could possibly have allowed this tragic, premature end to his beautiful awakening to married love. He wrote "A Grief Observed," which it was. Ken Fong lines up with C.S. Lewis in his willingness to share the journey openly - a journey filled with laughter and tears. The two Kens come together for a personal reflection on life and love - and the extraordinary woman who came into Ken Fong's life more than forty years ago: Sharon Snoopy Fong. Have a hanky handy.CaringBridge: https://www.caringbridge.org/visit/sharonsnoopyfongMemorial Service: Saturday, August 12, 2023, at 10 AM at Evergreen Baptist Church of Los Angeles - 1255 Rosemead Boulevard, Rosemead, CaliforniaSupport the show

Ken and Betsey reconvene for another summer Beach Talk. They begin by relaying the news that their friend and podcast colleague, Ken Fong, just this week bid farewell to his life-long partner, Snoopy, after a protracted and heart-rending battle with cancer. Betsey shares something of her own loss a few years back. A regular Twitter user with over a thousand followers, Betsey gives her thoughts on the recent challenge from META (Zuckerberg's Facebook) with a new competing platform called Threads. It puts two giant media platforms on a collision course, leaving Elon Musk falling well short of his intentions after allocating a significant percentage of his staggering wealth on the line. They review the SCOTUS decisions last month as a cautionary tale of what is yet to come. The stage version of "The Who's Tommy Musical" got Betsey rocking and reminiscing and the early days when the music of The Who captured her imagination.FOLLOW Betsey Newenhuyse on TWITTER: @newenhuyseFOLLOW Ken on TWITTER: @beachedmaleBecome a Patron: www.patreon.com/beachedwhitemaleSupport the show

This episode takes the two podcasters named Ken into very personal territory. The whole world's attention was captured for several days by the plight of five adventurers who plunged into the depths of the North Atlantic in the Ocean Gate Titan to catch a glimpse of the hundred-year-old ruins of the ocean liner Titanic resting on the ocean floor. With sudden silence, just an hour into the descent, communication came to a mysterious and abrupt end. Untethered, the unknown fate of the passengers and crew of the submersible became "BREAKING NEWS," a drama that rallied an armada of rescue ships and planes and high-tech underwater sonars, cameras, and robots. If the Titan had remained intact, reserve oxygen supplies would have run out about the time that rescuers found hard evidence: under the crushing weight of water pressure at extreme depths, the Titan imploded, leaving no survivors. In another scene in the Mediterranean, just off the coast of Greece, a terribly over-loaded ferry boat capsized, resulting in the loss of hundreds of lives - immigrants escaping war and violence and loss coming from as far away as Pakistan with hopes of a better life in Europe. The second event received much less coverage in the global press than the five wealthy passengers of the Titan. The Two Kens ponder the significance of risk and loss, national priorities, life and death. These events unfold in the media in the real and present context of Ken Fong's current personal crisis. Snoopy, his life partner of over forty years is in the battle for her own life against an aggressive cancer. It's a heartfelt conversation between the two Kens. You are invited to join in.Ken Fong's Caring Bridge page tracking Snoopy's JourneySupport the show

Ken Fong stumbled across an opinion piece in the L.A. TIMES by Osamudia James, Professor of Law at the University of North Carolina. Entitled - Florida's censorship of ‘diversity' efforts are a tantrum born of white guilt - Kemp agreed the article is worthy of full discussion. The author's phrase, "white innocence," underscores the claim made by Robyn DiAngelo in her now classic book, White Fragility. White folks instinctively resist real conversations about race, often with vigor. Ken Fong wanted to know if The Beached White Male agreed: Is white folks' common claim to "innocence" a factor in the Anti-Woke, Anti-CRT campaign that this article calls a childish "tantrum"? In response, Kemp shares his journey - from conservative white Boomer to host of his progressive podcast. He identifies as "white," but deplores "whiteness." The two Kens explore their personal stories that confirm the good professor's thesis. They call out the Florida governor's highly politicized crusade against D.E.I. (diversity, equity, and inclusion) for what Kemp calls "whiteness at work." SHOW NOTESBecome a Patron www.patreon.com/beachedwhitemaleSupport the show

Ken and Betsey review her visit to Southern California, which included a visit to the high desert "Super Bloom" of poppies and spring color, an evening conversation around the topic "Reimagining the Church," and a tour of Ken Fong's beautiful Japanese garden. Joe Biden is an official candidate for the Democratic nomination for a second term as POTUS. Polls predict a rematch of the two aging politicians - Biden v. Tr**p - as "most likely"... but the majority of Americans don't want it. The annual Correspondents Dinner put Joe Biden in the spotlight. Noting his stellar performance, it led  Ken to the conclusion that "maybe he can do it." There's yet another firing at a high-profile evangelical college in the Mid-West over ANTI-WOKE/ANTI-CRT - Professor Julie Moore at Taylor University. Secretary Pete gets the credit for the theme of Biden's campaign: Freedom!SHOW NOTES - including photo galleries from Crystal Cove, the Super Bloom, and Ken Fong's Garden.Become a Patron: www.patreon.com/beachedwhitemaleSupport the show

Today's Beach Talk begins with a review of the 100th Episode aired last week with guests Darcy McKenzie and Ken Fong. Ken and Betsey turn their attention to the tragic shooting at the Covenant (Elementary) School in Nashville, Tennessee where three 9-year-old students and three adults, including the school's headmaster, were brutally murdered. The shooter was quickly taken out by courageous first responders who arrived on the scene within minutes. The perpetrator used legally obtained automatic weapons to terrorize the school. Ken and Betsey reflect on the reports of the shooter's identity. They affirm that the killer is entirely responsible for the heinous crime, no question. However, the manifesto left behind by the perpetrator indicates that Audrey Hale identified as transgender. It raises questions about the conservative school's treatment of the LGBTQ community and the shooter's experience there as a young student. Right-wing politicians and religious zealots across the country have targeted transgender individuals, young and old, with all manner of restrictive, moralistic and sometimes draconian legislation and policies.  Ken turns the conversation to a new subject. He shares his most recent read - Celebrities for Jesus: How Personas, Platforms, and Profits Are Hurting the Church by Katelyn Beaty. Ken asks Betsey about here experience with "The Billy Graham Rule" in her role as an editor for Christian organizations. Become a Patron: www.patreon.com/beachedwhitemaleSupport the show

Ken Kemp and Betsey Newenhuyse celebrate 100 Episodes of their regular podcast series "Beach Talk." The first Beach Talk aired August 26, 2020, began as an "experiment," but has run for over two years. It's been a near-weekly conversation around headline events from the Democratic Convention through the election, the insurrection, impeachments, mass shootings, political jockeying, reading books, religious and spiritual commentary, calling out villains, and celebrating heroes. To celebrate this milestone, they welcome two cherished friends who are also fans of Beach Talk - Ken Fong (host of Asian American the Ken Fong Podcast and the Two Kens series co-host with Ken Kemp) and Darcy McKenzie (see podcast interview with Ken). SHOW NOTES.Support the show

Ken Fong and Ken Kemp join together for the first in the Two Kens series for 2023. Ken Fong recently returned from a wild photo journey, tracking down the Snowy White Owl way north in the Canadian Province of Quebec.  The mass shooting in Monterey Park, California, on the evening of the Lunar New Year celebration happened in Ken's former neighborhood where he served as a pastor for over three decades. He shares detail from what he has heard from friends and interviews with specialists in Asian perspectives, especially the dynamics of assimilation into American culture - both positive and negative. Ken shares the history of Monterey Park. In the 1970s, Chinese real estate developer Fred Hsieh called it the Chinese Beverly Hills - an "ethnoburb." They also reflect on the Tyre Nichols episode, reviewing the Memorial Service that attracted global attention. Finally, Ken Fong shares his experience leading a recovery group for twenty years and discovering his addiction to hubris.Asian America The Ken Fong Podcast | The Snowy White Owl - Ken's Facebook Photography PageBecome a Patron: www.patreon.com/beachedwhitemaleSupport the show

On this last day of the year, Ken gets sentimental. It's a retrospective of 2022, the political events, the podcast episodes, books, and movies that shaped Ken for good. He starts with a review of stats for The Beached White Male Podcast and gives special thanks to his series co-hosts, Betsey Newenhuyse, Ken Fong, and Osahon Obazuaye.Ken Announces the Table Talk that begins on January 17 focussed on The 1619 Project, by Pulitzer Prize-winning author and podcaster, Hannah Nicole Jones. Here's a link to learn more and register.Here's Ken's list of references - Ken's Podcast Review:Brad Onishi - Preparing for War: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism--and What Comes NextTheon Hill on Emmett TillSuzie Lind/Kevin Dixon - Journey Church in Nashville - Teaching Pastor Mike ErreDavid Swanson - Chicago - Rediscipling the White Church: From Cheap Diversity to True SolidarityDr. Brian Rush McDonald - The Long Surrender: A Memoir about Losing My ReligionMartyn Whittock - UK - misuse of eschatology/Passing of Queen Elizabeth: The End Times, Again?: 2000 Years of the Use & Misuse of Biblical ProphecyNate Manderson - SALON.comDavid Gushee - Christian Ethics/Changing My MindMark Chase - Associate Rector - All Saints, PasadenaLisa Sharon Harper - Fortune: How Race Broke My Family and the World--and How to Repair It AllDiana Butler Bass - Freeing JesusScott Young - Cinema - how to watch moviesJasmine Schupper - Greeenline Housing FoundationJulie Kratz - Corporate consultant - Diversity training TRUTH QUEST SERIES17 interviewsCivil Rights Tour of the South... New Orleans>BirminghamBooks - A Gentleman in Moscow: A Novel - Amor TowlesHow We Love Matters: A Call to Practice Relentless Racial Reconciliation - Albert TateUnthinkable: Trauma, Truth, and the Trials of American Democracy - Jamie RaskinAll the White Friends I Couldn't Keep: Hope--and Hard Pills to Swallow--About Fighting for Black Lives - Andre HenryDo I Stay Christian?: A Guide for the Doubters, the Disappointed, and the Disillusioned - Brian McLarenPostcards from Babylon: The Church In American Exile - Brian ZahndThe Brothers K - David James Duncan - Coming of Age NovelConfidence Man: The Making of Donald Trump and the Breaking of America - Maggie HabermanAfter Jesus Before Christianity: A Historical Exploration of the First Two Centuries of Jesus Movement - Erin Vearncombe, Brandon ScottThe Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma - Bessel van der Kolk TRAUMA... American Midnight: The Great War, a Violent Peace, and Democracy's Forgotten Crisis - Adam HochschildAnd There Was Light: Abraham Lincoln and the American Struggle - Jon MeachamThe  books Lincoln read - Thomas Paine and Ralph Waldo EmersonCrisis of FaithUncle Tom's Cabin - Harriet Beecher StoweSupport the show

In this final episode of 2022, podcaster-friends Ken Fong and Ken Kemp recommend the new "The Charismatic Revival Fury" series by their mutual friend Dr. Brad Onishi over at the "Straight White American Jesus" podcat. What government officials and most mainstream media outlets apparently have overlooked is the part that many charismatic and Pentecostal Evangelicals played in not only the attempt to prevent the peaceful transfer of POTUS power on 1/6/20, but in creating a global network that continues to seek power and authority by almost any means necessary.

As 2022 comes to a close, Ken Fong and Ken Kemp review a powerful new podcast series produced by their mutual friend, Dr. Brad Onishi (Straight White American Jesus) called Charismatic Revival Fury. Written by Institute for Islamic, Christian and Jewish Studies (ICJS), Dr. Matthew D. Taylor, the series reveals a little-known or understood movement that became a major influence in promoting the "Big Lie" (that the 2020 Presidential Election was stolen) called The New Apostolic Reformation. Founded by C. Peter Wagner and Pastor John Wimber in the 1980s and 90s at Ken Fong's alma mater, Fuller Theological Seminary, the movement emerged as prophetic support for the 45th President. It crowns Donald Trump as the biblical King Cyrus, with prophecies of his return to power for a second term, in spite of the legitimate victory of Joe Biden. While the January 6 Committee, the media, and social commentators have poured over evidence that led to the January 6 Insurrection, few have called out the inescapable religious element. It was pervasive in leading up to the event and then right there in plain view: The Jericho Marches prior the assault on the Capitol; Seven Mountain Dominionism; players like Paula White and Lance Wallnau worship leader Shaun Feucht; politicians like Sarah Palin, Mike Pence, Mike Pompeo, Michelle Bachman; Michael Flynn, Steve Bannon, Roger Stone, and Doug Mastriano; all heavily influenced by a massive under-the-radar movement that perverts Christianity into a raw pursuit of political power. And it demonizes anyone who dares challenge the assumptions  of "Apostolic Authority." Ken Fong shares some very personal related moments that shaped his life and ministry then - and to this day.Charismatic Revival Fury: The New Apostolic ReformationOn The Media - The Divided DialBecome a Patron: www patreon.com/beachedwhitemaleSupport the show

Ken Fong and Ken Kemp reconvene for a morning after review of the mid-term elections. The predicted "Red Wave," touted by the former President and his political imitators, failed to materialize - more like a ripple. On his podcast, Asian America the Ken Fong Podcast, Fong interviewed  Christopher Huang, a professional photographer, and Hollywood blogger. Huang has written about race in Hollywood cinema in his commentary on Disney's soon-to-be-released remake of "The Little Mermaid," featuring a young woman of color as Ariel. The dominance of whiteness in the movie industry mirrors the "whiteness" at work in the Republican party, championed by the newly elected Governor of Florida, now with Presidential ambitions. Rather than a gracious acceptance speech, Ron DeSantis poured fuel on the culture wars, declaring his primary target: "Wokism" which, he claims, is "destroying America." The two Kens discuss how the fierce battle for control of both the House and the Senate have shown surprising strength from Democratic candidates (like Raphael Wornack, and John Fetterman) and the diminishment of Donald Trump and those Trumpian candidates (like Mehmet Oz and Herschel Walker). They are keeping their eyes on Nevada, Arizona, and Georgia. SHOW NOTESBecome a Patron: www.patreon.com/beachedwhitemaleSupport the show

After a short break, the TWO KENS are back. Ken welcomes Ken Fong to talk about a sermon he preached recently at the historic First Baptist Church in Pasadena. His subject is The Parable of the Good Samaritan. After listening, Kemp was deeply moved by Fong's creative take on the familiar story. It corresponded powerfully with Kemp's experience on the Civil Rights Tour of the South in June and on the production of the seven-part summer podcast series he calls TRUTH QUEST. Fong understands Jesus to focus not just on the Samaritan's sensitivity and generosity to a victim who traditionally held him in contempt, but the lessons about privilege and vulnerability and the healing and wholeness that comes from the margins. Ken Fong pays tribute to the Truth Quest series as Ken Kemp embraces the pulpit work of his retired pastor friend. SHOW NOTES (complete list of TWO KENS podcasts)Listen to the series: TRUTH QUEST: Exploring The History of Race in AmericaAsian America: The Ken Fong Podcast || THE TWO KENSBecome a Patron - www.patreon.com/beachedwhitemaleSupport the show

Dr. Fong started his podcast, “Asian America: The Ken Fong Podcast”, in 2015 and it currently has over 600k downloads. He tells his story of how he was a Biology major when he got his calling to become a Baptist pastor, which he did for over 30 years. We also go into how he became […]

We are so excited to have Dr Ken Fong, from "Asian America: The Ken Fong Podcast" on this episode! Dr Ken Fong talks about his experience in pastoral counseling, and how he sees the difference between counseling vs couples therapy. We discuss the importance for couples to engage in couples therapy, tips for interethnic couples, and shares his wisdom for couples who are hesitant about engaging in professional therapy. Please follow our podcast and our Instagram @yellowchaircollective to stay updated with us, and share this episode with your friends! For more info about us and our services, visit https://yellowchaircollective.com. Music from our podcast by Dean Reed: https://fromthevalley.bandcamp.com/ - - - - - - ASIAN AMERICA: THE KEN FONG PODCAST is a distinctive program that shines a spotlight on the manifold faces and facets of the diverse Asian American community. From the moment Ken launches each week's episode with his current musings, you'll feel like you're sharing a booth with him at a local coffee shop. And when his guest joins him, you'll get to listen in as he deftly invites them to talk about their pathways, their passions, and their latest pursuits.

Ken marks a major milestone: 200 episodes since the podcast was launched in April of 2020. He reflects on the journey that has transformed his life, cemented his friendships and broadened his horizons. A good number of Ken's listeners. partners and friends check in, including Ken's life partner Carolyn who makes her debut appearance sharing her perspective on her husbands wild retirement project. Become a Patron: www.patreon.com/beachedwhitemaleSupport the show

NEW EPISODE - Ken Kemp is back! He shares his nine-day Civil Rights Tour of the South with Ken Fong and his plans to create a series of podcasts unpacking the high impact of the trip with 38 other pilgrims. Recorded just hours after the Roe V. Wade decision was announced, the two Kens take a deep dive into the issues. Justices Alito and Thomas write disturbing opinions relative to the ruling. Justice John Roberts rides the fence. The three appointees of the former President contradict their testimony in each of their hearings. Ken Fong shares his daughter's reaction and the years his church was situated directly across the street from a busy abortion clinic, with protestors at the ready every Sunday. Become a Patron - www.patreon.com/beachedwhitemaleSupport the show

Ken Kemp (the Beached White Male) joins Ken Fong (Asian American - the Ken Fong Podcast) in the wake of yet another horrific hate crime in Buffalo, New York. The shooter, Payton Gendron, left a long manifesto that centered on "replacement theory," a basic tenet of white supremacy. For the shooter, it justified his crime. This tragic event begs the question: what are the stories we tell ourselves? Our stories often enable us to dismiss the truths that we prefer to ignore or worse, deny. Tucker Carlson, the Fox News host of the most popular cable "news" program on cable television, regularly promotes the theory. The two Kens unpack the history and meaning of the theory, sourced in the literature of white supremacy. They discuss a recent lengthy, in-depth article published in The Atlantic, "How Politics Poisoned the Evangelical Church." Pastors across America are caught between the warring factions of the culture wars. Some, like Greg Lock of the Global Vision Church in Tennessee, have sold out to the conspiracy theories and racial animus of the far right. The two Kens agree: replacement theory must be called out and rejected. Diversity is good. It enriches our lives and contributes to our flourishing. Become a Patron: www.patreon.com/beachedwhitemaleSupport the show

What's more fun than a Noona's Noonchi deep dive? A Noona's Noonchi podcast deep dive with one of the original Asian American podcasters! Ken Fong, host of "Asian America: The Ken Fong Podcast'" joins us for this next podcast episode! Squid Game Sensations. Join us as we talk pathology, capitalism, and of course how 'disturbing' this #1 Netflix show is. Yes, it's the most talked about K-Drama ever, but still gotta admit Squid Game wasn't easy to digest. You can also watch the podcast on our YouTube channel.  So, how 'disturbing' was Squid Game for you? Podcast Guest: Ken is widely recognized as one of the original Asian American podcasters. His “Asian America: The Ken Fong Podcast” has garnered a national and global audience since 2015, and he has interviewed well over 300 Asian American culture-makers and -shapers. Before retiring in 2017, he helped pastor a very impactful English-speaking pan-Asian American church in the LA area. #kdramas #squidgame #leejungjae #junghoyeon #parkhaesoo #netflix #netflixkr #subscribe #youtube #koreandrama #kdrama #leebyunghun #gongyoo #capitalism #pathology

In this concluding episode to our bicycle and spirituality series, Pastor Shawn and Pastor Nick are joined by Rev. Dr. Ken Fong, host of The Asian American Podcast, to talk about bike riding, retirement & sabbath. If you are looking for a church service during COVID, we encourage you to enjoy our worship service on YouTube. If you want to be kept up to date, you can also follow our church on Facebook, check out our webpage, and like our Podcast Facebook page! You can enjoy Ken Fong's podcast Asian American: The Ken Fong Podcast HERE. Support Ken's podcast on patreon HERE.

A 2014 Forbes Magazine feature named being a spiritual leader as #5 on their 9 Toughest Leadership Roles. “Being a pastor is like death by a thousand paper cuts,” says Rev. Dr. Ken Fong, senior pastor at Evergreen Baptist Church in Rosemead, California and a program director at Fuller Theological Seminary in Pasadena.  “You're scrutinized and criticized from top to bottom, stem to stern. You work for an invisible, perfect Boss, and you're supposed to lead a ragtag gaggle of volunteers towards God's coming future. It's like herding cats, but harder.” Our guests today have served in a variety of ministerial roles, not the least of which is their most recent church-planting journey, during their more than two decades of ministry. Chad & Jennifer Stafford have not only survived the process but are here to share their own personal victories and defeats with us as they continue to grow and cultivate disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Upon graduating from Central Bible College (Springfield, MO), Chad & Jennifer Stafford have been in full-time ministry for over 20 years having served in almost every area of church work.Chad grew up in Daphne, Alabama and played football and baseball at Daphne High School. He was a youth pastor in Daphne from 1999-2004 where the youth ministry became recognized as one of the largest in the nation. He served as a football coach, baseball coach, and chaplain at Daphne High School as he and Jennifer poured their lives into the Eastern Shore community. Following their time in Daphne, Chad and Jennifer served as Executive Pastors in south Atlanta, Georgia and then Lead Pastors in Bentonville, Arkansas. They returned to Daphne in 2009 and launched Coastal Church in January 2010.On October 12, 2007, Chad & Jennifer welcomed their son, Evan Charles Stafford. The Staffords feel called by God to spend the rest of their lives on the Eastern Shore. Coastal Church is the church they want to pastor and Daphne is where they want to live and raise Evan. "When you've been all around the world, there is only one place left that you want to go. Home."Contact Info:        Insta: @cstafford54        Insta: @jtstafford         Facebook:  Jennifer Stafford        Facebook:  Chad Stafford        Email : info@coastalchurch.tv         Website: www.coastalchurch.tv         Chad's new book, 40 Day with the Holy Spirit, just released. Visit www.40dayswiththeholyspirit.com or Amazon to order a copy.