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In this episode, TribalHub sits down with Avish Parashar, a dynamic speaker, author, and improv comedy expert, to explore how the principles of improv can transform leadership and business practices. Avish is the author of Improvise to Success! and the Amazon best-seller Say ‘Yes, And! He's also a former keynote speaker at TribalNet 2019, where he captivated audiences with his insights into leadership and collaboration. Download a free PDF of Avish's book Say Yes, And! here and be sure to check him out in LinkedIn!
Hello Community! As January draws to a close and we prepare to step into February, think about the last time you allowed yourself to truly play at work. Creativity and play aren't just for children; they're essential tools for navigating complex challenges. Whether it's brainstorming sessions, team-building activities, or simply creating space for innovative thinking, play can unlock new ways of approaching culture and change. In a time when rigidity threatens to stifle progress, creativity and play remind us to remain flexible, adaptive, and open to new possibilities. They allow us to see obstacles not as insurmountable walls but as puzzles to be solved. Join me for our last Real Conversation from the C-Suite with Avish Parashar to help us harness the power of creativity and play in the workplace.Connect with me!Web - https://www.doctoranita.com/YouTube - https://bit.ly/DrAnitaYouTubeLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/anita-polite-wilson-ph-d-77695b/
Hello Community! To quote Bob Dylan who wrote and sang the song "The Times They Are a-Changin'” let's have a real conversation about the fact that in times like these, it's tempting to default to vague, lofty ideals. But if we want to make meaningful progress, we need SMART goals—those that are Specific, Measurable, Achievable, Relevant, and Time-bound. For example, instead of saying, “We want to improve diversity,” a SMART goal might look like, “We will increase representation of underrepresented groups in leadership roles by 10% by the end of the year.” At the same time, let's not completely discount the value of non-SMART goals in the form of visionary thinking. Visionary thinking, the kind that may seem unmeasurable at first, is where innovation begins. By blending SMART goals with a willingness to dream big, we can maintain momentum and ensure that DEI is more than just a checkbox—it's a cornerstone of business strategy. My guest on Real Conversations from the C-suite, Avish Parashar, will explain how to do that.Connect with me!Web - https://www.doctoranita.com/YouTube - https://bit.ly/DrAnitaYouTubeLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/anita-polite-wilson-ph-d-77695b/
Hello Community! We're halfway through January in a new year and you may have noticed that some things have changed. And, you may have noticed that change can be hard. It can be disruptive. And sometimes, it can feel downright disheartening. But here's the thing: while we may not always get to choose the changes, we do get to choose how we respond to them. Crying has its place, but laughter—oh, laughter is a powerful tool. It doesn't just lighten the mood; it also creates connections and fosters creativity. Laughter reminds us that even in the darkest moments, joy is possible. So, as we navigate culture, complexity, and change, let's commit to finding humor in the struggle. Not to dismiss the seriousness of the challenges but to stay human through it all. Join me for another Real Conversation from the C-Suite when my guest, Avish Parashar helps us to choose laughter.Connect with me!Web - https://www.doctoranita.com/YouTube - https://bit.ly/DrAnitaYouTubeLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/anita-polite-wilson-ph-d-77695b/
Hello Community and Happy New Year! As you make plans to thrive in 2025, I wanted to introduce a concept you might find innovative: Improv! In improv, the phrase “yes, and…” keeps the energy moving forward. It's a way of acknowledging what's happening while building on it to create something new. So instead of responding to the year's anticipated challenges with “no, but…” let's embrace a “yes, and…” mindset. Yes, DEI is under fire—and we can use this as an opportunity to reframe how we cultivate inclusion and belonging within our workplaces. When we shift the conversation from compliance to culture, we position ourselves to do more than survive this moment—we can thrive in it by reimagining what inclusion looks like beyond politics. My guest this month on Real Conversations from the C-Suite, Mr. Avish Parashar, is going to show us how to leverage the power of improv.Connect with me!Web - https://www.doctoranita.com/YouTube - https://bit.ly/DrAnitaYouTubeLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/anita-polite-wilson-ph-d-77695b/
From Engineer to Entertainer: Avish Parashar's Journey to Speaking Success Welcome to Teach the Geek Interviews! In this episode, we delve into the world of professional speaking with Avish Parashar, a computer engineer turned speaker renowned for his unique approach of integrating improvisational comedy techniques into business and personal development. If you've ever pondered the path to becoming a successful speaker, you're in the right place. Avish addresses burning questions such as securing speaking engagements, pricing strategies, and transitioning to a full-time speaking career. Join us as we uncover Avish's journey and glean valuable insights for aspiring speakers. __ TEACH THE GEEK (http://teachthegeek.com) Subscribe and rate on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube Follow @teachthegeek (Twitter) and @_teachthegeek_ (IG) Get Public Speaking Tips for STEM Professionals at http://teachthegeek.com/tips.
MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE III Retired from active duty, and training recruits for the Impossible Mission Force, agent Ethan Hunt (Tom faces the toughest foe of his career: Owen Davian , an international broker of arms and information, who is as cunning as he is ruthless. Davian emerges to threaten Hunt and all that he holds dear -- including the woman Hunt loves. Your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to listen to Craig and guest co-host Avish Parashar talk about if Tom Cruise is a box office draw, mid-life milestones, mystery box misgivings and the movie "Mission Impossible III” on this week's Matinee Heroes. Show Notes 1:05 Craig and guest co-host Avish Parashar discuss turning 50, having a daughter and other mid-life milestones. 7:14 Craig and Avish discuss "Mission: Impossible III" 27:28 Recasting 42:24 Double Feature 45:45 Final Thoughts 48:59 A preview of next week's episode "Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol" Next week we kick the franchise into gear and start experiencing the greatness of "Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol"
Learn how to manuever and enjoy the changes being made in the constantly evolving world of technology with today's guest, Motivational Improvisor, Avish Parashar, from Avish Parashar Productions! Listen in as he shares his approach solving complex technical problems using lessons he has learned through years of improv work, especially as it relates to AI. Disruptive ideas for innovation have helped his AI expertise develop throughout his career and he now uses that knowledge to develop challenging mindsets in upcoming technology experts, inspiring those that follow to get creative in their problem-solving. Avish Parashar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/avishparashar/ CDAO: https://www.ai.mil/ Tradewind AI: https://www.tradewindai.com/ ATARC: https://atarc.org/
In a World…where good cops may find themselves on their own…Lance Hurricane is a good cop, a good husband, and a good man. When he finds himself in the middle of a giant plot to corrupt the nation's politicians, he must use his mastery of the martial art, “Octopus Fu,” to stop the plot, even if it drives him…Near to Exhaustion! This episode features the improv comedy games Prologue in a Minute, Two-Word Typewriter, Ding, Gibberish Switch, and Cutting Room. In this episode, we pay homage to a genre that we love, but that doesn't really qualify as “good cinema.” But darn it, they are fun movies! And the genre is of course, classic Steven Seagal movies, specifically from his early days. His first four movies, where his movie titles all had three words. So much fun, so much fighting, so many bad one-liners, and so much terrible acting! Hopefully we did the genre justice, or else Seagal may come find us… Links Steven Seagal on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Seagal Hard to Kill on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_to_Kill Out for Justice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_for_Justice Time Codes Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 05:56 Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 16:25 Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 20:15 Start of show: 24:08 Improv Game - Prologue in a Minute: 26:10 Improv Game - Two-Word Typewriter: 28:30 Improv Game - Ding: 37:17 Improv Game - Gibberish Switch: 46:40 Improv Game - Cutting Room: 55:58 End of show, into announcements: 1:08:36 More Information About the Show, Mike, and Avish Subscribe to the podcast: http://AvishAndMike.com/Subscribe/ Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: Alright, we are now going to spend a few minutes talking about the genre our experience with this kind of genre and i'm. Avish Parashar: Also, getting into some of the clubs and commonalities and boy, there are some cliches in this sort of thing, yes, I thought I set a timer here it's gonna quack like a duck when it's done so Mike let's talk Steven seagal you and I kind of. Avish Parashar: enjoyed and bonded over the years and our younger days were creating the martial arts regularly and watching this kind of nonsense. Michael Worth: Oh yeah believing it actually was like functional martial arts and actually worked right. Michael Worth: Alright, so how specific are we getting are we getting Steven seagal specific or just the general 80s like. Avish Parashar: Probably the more Steven seagal specific at least right now I mean we don't have to jump into discussing the tropes but just kind of. Avish Parashar: You know. Avish Parashar: Like your thoughts on the Steven seagal genre in July. Michael Worth: 1 of all first of all there's something gloriously nostalgic about this, because this this film, you know you gotta think when it came out in the 80s, it was done for the low budget like let's just get butts in the seats, and so the. Michael Worth: The focus is on basically badass fight scenes and, most notably segall just like being completely invincible and he's never in any trouble like he just he goes he waits through the plebes he went to the lieutenant's any ways to the chief bad guy. Avish Parashar: yeah it's ridiculous is that even when he fights the big bad guy he. Avish Parashar: Barely gets touched. Michael Worth: yeah I think the worst seattle's yet he got stabbed once by Tommy Lee Jones in under siege during the call a knife fight. Avish Parashar: yeah. Avish Parashar: And even though he looked so yeah this era where they it was an era before again, you know we recently recorded are taken episode, where it was like Liam neeson. Avish Parashar: And we talked on that one about somewhere along the way they realize you get a good actor interaction movie it kind of elevates it. Avish Parashar: This is from that era were all they were looking for someone who had action skill so yeah van damme will have like some martial arts training was like a dancer could you great body busy. Avish Parashar: You have speak they go yeah Jeff speakman. Avish Parashar: You got um, then you got say girl who was like a legitimate like whatever seventh degree a keto yeah no. Avish Parashar: No real acting talent. Avish Parashar: So i'm sure he would digress. Avish Parashar: He definitely disagree. Michael Worth: Oh yes, let's take all could do no wrong and to god's world seagal is the most cigar you can never say go. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah and even read stories like he's like one of the most. Avish Parashar: hated guests outside of that live like when you talk about the cat stories like they talk like their worst guests he's like because he's like an attitude was like almost violent and just like arrogant. Michael Worth: He also, I believe, had a big REP in Hollywood for like injuring a stuntman all the time because because you know he basically like. Michael Worth: Like did the stunts like he was actually trying to do it, you know and like you do, like some of the dogs in the webinar because it's almost like most things. Michael Worth: I don't think they're very practical, but if you're letting the dude get to your neck with that, like forearm strike and then he frickin does it. Avish Parashar: like this yeah they're not I mean you know they're not like street fighting practical they'll work if you can lot you know it's not a matter of. Avish Parashar: Like they're legitimate techniques that are very difficult to land in combat but the techniques themselves are like legitimate and that they'll work like to bend someone's risk that way they're going to flip over in a circle yeah. Michael Worth: funny enough i'm going to go a little diatribe here a red because i've been training Brazilian Jiu jitsu and what all the upper belts are starting to train now. Michael Worth: Our wrist locks but they're coming out of grappling so you're already kind of tangled up in the clothes, but these guys have been landing. Michael Worth: Whatever the kota guys share they've been landing enough people but it's in a grappling contest and they all say the same thing, but the only reason I can get away with this is that you and I already touching each other and there's no punching. Avish Parashar: bag yeah yeah it's not yeah exactly it's not like grabbing some of this out of the air. Avish Parashar: But you know we also you know we watch movies about killer robots and space aliens and giant lizard so like I. Avish Parashar: I love a like this, I love to see what I got fight scenes because they're so cool looking in there, so fluid and. Michael Worth: Well, that that's the thing about. Michael Worth: describing these fight scenes and Erica of the game we're going to do, because the the the cigar stuff since this new striking it's not like the bourne identity was like jerky camera back it's like this really cool stuff we're. Michael Worth: Throwing a baseball BAT and to go like step to the side and throw the guy through a plate glass window, so the fight scenes of segall are super exciting and dramatic and everyone's getting thrown into objects and thrown into like you know storeroom, as you know, items in the store way. Avish Parashar: That is also why they're so short, though, because, like. Avish Parashar: there's no punching and kicking right so like in a normal a fight scene, you know Bruce Lee van damme Jackie Chan. Avish Parashar: they're punching each other and they get hit like Oh, they come back and they fight they hit the other guy that Oh, they come back and they get hurt a little like, if you want really watch the same movie, especially with the henchmen it's like one move for enjoyment. Avish Parashar: enjoyment attacks him. Avish Parashar: He does the you know i'm gonna knock the elbow down and do the rich hand strike across your throat. Avish Parashar: yeah that guy's done next I punches of all i'm going to sidestep grab your risk autograph reverse it up you're done. Michael Worth: yeah. Avish Parashar: It just one hit it's like that's me he just like. Michael Worth: Yes, what i'm gonna do a sacrifice, if not he, like hip. Michael Worth: throw like boom he's done right so so it's fun it's beautiful to watch but it's a really fast, which also brings up the whole like seagal just can kind of wade through people. Michael Worth: um The second thing that I love about the signal is he's unabashedly like wants to be like the every man every in every movie he's like a family man he's an Italian he's like Roman Catholic like he's just like he's got his niche he's just. Avish Parashar: Basically, got to be himself, because he can't act so. Michael Worth: Basically he's himself he's he's his own perfect version of himself right like you know. Michael Worth: yeah good father, a good husband like, although the cost of the force love him, it is like yeah that's that's art not imitating life. Avish Parashar: yeah he stands up to power, he does what's right like regardless yeah. Michael Worth: Speaking of power it's it's so the plots of these are also so gloriously paper thin that's so much fun to check out because that's part of the charm of this stuff it's like you just want a bunch of bad guys and you want a lone wolf to just take them down so they're just like. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah I mean we're talking about like the cliche is and stuff you know you've got. Avish Parashar: yeah he's almost always rogue in some way you know. Avish Parashar: People in charge are corrupt or they're not corrupt, but whatever he's been told to like lay off. Michael Worth: Your time because the bad guys have too much political power. Avish Parashar: yeah kind of thing yeah. Avish Parashar: And that's also why he doesn't have backup so he's got to go in solo. Avish Parashar: You can't trust anyone don't get help them. Michael Worth: To, of course, because you say go right, you know so. Avish Parashar: yeah and. Michael Worth: um yeah and I think that the bad guys are just like good old fashioned bad guys that you love to hate they're always dealing drugs or like you know i'm in hard to kill a they're doing. Avish Parashar: Articles drugs I think right, it was drug dealers know marked for death was drug dealers hard to kill with the politician. Avish Parashar: yeah yeah corrupt politician oh. Michael Worth: Right, but he was killing politicians, he get his opium deal to remember the first met in the CIA in in Vietnam. Avish Parashar: That was above the law. Avish Parashar: Yes. Michael Worth: wow so much diversity in this stuff. Avish Parashar: yeah there's always a rich powerful person who's corrupting the system. Avish Parashar: You know, for drugs or political power money or all of that. Avish Parashar: It gets personal somehow you know either his family's killed like in hard to kill or attacked. Avish Parashar: You know, once the bad guys realized he's trouble they kind of go after him and or is COP friends are killed so it gets personal. Michael Worth: So and, by the way, that's The other thing is like right before we get started into the X three x four right before the final assault usually. Michael Worth: He gets a couple of his buddies killed like they get they get targeted either they are they buy him time to get away and they die or they just get targeted by the bad guy and that's kind of the what pushes them over the edge, you know because I don't. Michael Worth: yeah I don't only in hard to kill is the wife killed and that's because, in the very beginning kind of sets up the plot Sharon stone above the law, can you believe that is not killed. Michael Worth: The Italian girl in out for justice is not killed and I kept my room marked for death through the wife is but no. Avish Parashar: yeah yeah so it's easy but yeah i've had some was targeted more often right the COP buddies are. Avish Parashar: are taken out. Michael Worth: yeah yeah righteous, and I mean honestly what makes the film great and let's talk about dialogue. Avish Parashar: I was about to say there's some. Avish Parashar: horrible dialogue and some terrible like one liner. Michael Worth: But the dialogues usually like the bad dialogue it's usually say call you know it's, like the other actors actually have legit dialogue, I don't know what it is. Avish Parashar: equal quality it's just the other actors are actual actors, so they can make it sound semi decent. Avish Parashar: Plus they're trying to give him, like the shorts neck or one liners. Avish Parashar: yeah yeah. Michael Worth: Which failed utterly I mean my God let's let's let's let's put up some of these gems where it's like yeah i'll take you to the bank body bank with. Avish Parashar: bank. Michael Worth: Of the blood banks over the place. Michael Worth: Although it has my favorite like I just killed lieutenant line where he takes the pool cuny staff that throw that is that's killing my wife Fuck you and die. Avish Parashar: yeah I do like that live. Michael Worth: that's the one good one, but I can't think of a single other mind that he said that's remotely interesting, so what is about these movies that make it so far, because he's a wouldn't actor, the plots. Avish Parashar: I thought you know they get to the point right the plot it's like. Avish Parashar: it's like cake right. Avish Parashar: it's like cake is nice but cake is really just a conveyance for frosting it's just the frosting delivery. Avish Parashar: that's that's kind of the same movie right like the plot the movie the acting. it's fine. Avish Parashar: You know, but it's really just conveyance device for sega fight scenes like that's all. Michael Worth: that's a good point yeah it is it delicious it's literally it's like why, why are they Why are these are crackers out because I want that pepperoni and that Brie. Avish Parashar: Cheese exactly I mean that's why like that's why I received was like a legitimate mainstream movie because. Avish Parashar: You got the single fight scenes but they actually managed to wrap it in a movie with a decently interesting plot, and you got you know Gary busey and Tommy Lee Jones I like real actors. Michael Worth: And I bought a call was not nearly as involved that with with the script I think the script was actually written by a couple of Hollywood guys would actually had a legit three act. Avish Parashar: structure so he. Michael Worth: keeps it all the hell out of the way you know, and the same thing with executive decision couple that with the fact that they figured out let's get rid of steak on the first five. Avish Parashar: that's true yeah they did they they asked him right in the beginning, so. Avish Parashar: All right, so that is just about our time is about to go off here. Avish Parashar: So that. Avish Parashar: I think we talked about the genre enough here. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: Creating the outline, we are going to spend five minutes coming up with a high level outline for this movie we're going to use a four act structure. Avish Parashar: And there's our starting point, we may veer from it, we may stick to it, who knows it's improvisation so we'll see alright, so there goes a timer alright, so what has to happen is this is really thin right it's like I said it's all the excuse of oh yeah act one we. Michael Worth: will establish the COP and he gets in his first small time fight scene. Avish Parashar: You know, like there's always like an opening little just to show that he's a badass. Michael Worth: yeah I can't wait for us to invent his martial arts could be absurd. Avish Parashar: Animal. Michael Worth: Animal and then act one um. Michael Worth: Well i'll say this, and tell me whether it's one or two he runs into his first encounter with So yes, he has a little scuffle, this is nothing new that's a couple people mugging an old lady pizza. Michael Worth: But then he runs it was first encounter with the larger crime Arc like again with drugs he he see some kids selling drugs he gets shot and he finds out that there's a new drug on the scene and that starts to tie into there's something big going on. Avish Parashar: So I don't know yeah I think I think act one usually ends with him stumbling onto the bigger thing like just like I said. Avish Parashar: Maybe on a small lower level like yeah the kids selling drugs or you know stopping some crime, but he gets involved in whatever and you know, for the purpose of our show that might be combined with the opening fight, you know the opening little fight maybe the one that kind of. Michael Worth: yeah yeah. Avish Parashar: Perfect next into the bigger world. Michael Worth: Sure sure. Avish Parashar: But he's asked yeah kind of where he he stumbles upon the bad guys bad guys kind of syndicate or plan. Michael Worth: Act two is him a teaming up with probably a couple of his buddy COPs to figure out who's doing what are learning about who the bad guy is a. Avish Parashar: So this they almost always so yeah This is where this is the they're trying to figure things out and there's almost always a scene, where they go to some like. Avish Parashar: gang hide out or dive bar some alleyway though the one biker gang always hangs out and he just wants to get some information, but of course there's a fight. Michael Worth: So if I see right. Michael Worth: So we've seen that right that gets the attention of the head bad guy that this that that are RSA golf guys is on to them, and that leads to act three, which is they've tried to kill segall is. Michael Worth: This the show is going to be today they try to kill cigar that these two buddies are killed his force pulls them off the thing, and he goes rogue and that leads into act for me this is literally how easy, this is going to be right. Avish Parashar: yeah I would say yeah then he goes rogue. Avish Parashar: And then, and then usually there's some oftentimes there's some additional danger. Avish Parashar: that's introduced right the end of act three like his family's in jeopardy, or you find out what the big plan is like Oh, you know this guy is gonna blow up this building on this day or you know the big deal going down. Michael Worth: yeah yeah exactly so. Avish Parashar: plan or personal issue I know. Michael Worth: I had a couple something really funny and silly and then act for us literally him just going to the head villains um. Michael Worth: You know, he does one or one or both things he had to go ahead villains layer and kills him and also tenants he goes and destroys the crime scene like it destroys the drunk supply quite as both. Avish Parashar: yeah stop the crime and fights a bad guy and beats. Michael Worth: and kills everybody and and barely takes a wound. Avish Parashar: Barely takes it kills everyone. Michael Worth: Your meters can't see this but i'm literally showing my sketch pad. Avish Parashar: Right. Avish Parashar: There you go that's about it so. Avish Parashar: All right. Avish Parashar: So that we finished we'd like. Avish Parashar: got their outlining phase ever. Michael Worth: Good what else isn't right let's get to it right oh.
DICK TRACY Welcome to Episode 6 of Season 4 Show Notes Calling all Cars! Calling all Cars!! We're recasting Dick Tracy with Michael Worth and Avish Parashar from the "In a World...Improvised Movie Podcast" on the this episode of CastOFF! If you want to watch the show, you can head over to matineeheroes.com/castoff where you'll find all the links to past and current episodes. Feel free to email MHCastoff@gmail.com to offer up feedback, suggest movies for the Castoff or just to say "hey". You can also watch the CastOFF! live every Tuesday 9pm/6pm ET/PT on http://twitch.tv/matineeheroes & https://youtube.com/channel/UCnxw7gfxe_ChqBXnchT8vFA
DICK TRACY Welcome to Episode 6 of Season 4 Show Notes Calling all Cars! Calling all Cars!! We're recasting Dick Tracy with Michael Worth and Avish Parashar from the "In a World...Improvised Movie Podcast" on the this episode of CastOFF! If you want to watch the show, you can head over to matineeheroes.com/castoff where you'll find all the links to past and current episodes. Feel free to email MHCastoff@gmail.com to offer up feedback, suggest movies for the Castoff or just to say "hey". You can also watch the CastOFF! live every Tuesday 9pm/6pm ET/PT on http://twitch.tv/matineeheroes & https://youtube.com/channel/UCnxw7gfxe_ChqBXnchT8vFA
In a World…where there are good men and evil men, and some seek to help while others seek to destroy…one of the evilest groups in history seek an object of such immense power it could completely change the course of World War II. The US government will call upon the intrepid accountant adventurer, Phineas Jones, to beat the Nazis in their race to acquire the mythical and magical Stubble of Apollo! This episode features the improv games prologue in a minute, emotional lists, best of times worst of times, ding, and cutting room. This episode also features our friend and movie podcaster extraordinaire, Craig Price! Mike and Avish had the pleasure to be a guest on Craig's Matinee Heroes Podcast, as well has his super fun recasting game show, Cast-Off! Craig is a huge fan of Indiana Jones movies, so we use his expertise in our planning section. In this episode, we pay homage to one of our absolute favorite heroes and movies: Indiana Jones! This episode specifically parodies Raiders of the Lost Ark (but we hope that we will do our first sequel with this one!). We hit most of the tropes of a good Indiana Jones movie and boy, did we have fun doing it! Check out Craig's Stuff! Avish and Mike on Matinee Heroes talking about The Omen Avish and Mike on Cast-Off! Recasting Interview with a Vampire Avish and Mike on Cast-Off! Recasting Dick Tracy (COMING TODAY!) Matinee Heroes Home Page (Cast-Off episodes are here too) Links Indiana Jones on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Jones Time Codes Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes with Guest Craig Price: 06:37 Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 23:08 Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 30:45 Start of show: 35:35 Improv Game - Prologue in a Minute: 38:08 Improv Game - Emotional Lists: 40:18 Improv Game - Best of Times, Worst of Times: 50:48 Improv Game - Ding: 1:00:00 Improv Game - Cutting Room: 1:08:51 End of show, into announcements: 1:26:00 More Information About the Show, Mike, and Avish Subscribe to the podcast: http://AvishAndMike.com/Subscribe/ Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) so mikey why don't you begin by letting everyone know what today's genre or starting movie is. Michael Worth: This is such my pleasure i'm so excited to do this we're going to do a fantastic archaeology exploration type movie in the style of indiana Jones or King solomon's minds. Avish Parashar: let's just say indiana Jones. Avish Parashar: knock off, which is interesting because the book King solomon's mines came out. Avish Parashar: The whole quarter main thing came out long before raiders of the lost Ark raiders lost Ark was almost it almost to that. Michael Worth: It was it was an homage to the 30s pulp exploration, you know, doctors, the savage jungle and that kind of stuff. Michael Worth: yeah but. Avish Parashar: Once but once raiders lost Ark came out like cool let's get on this gravy train and they made an hour to Ellen quarter made movies, which were bad. Avish Parashar: weather was bad I didn't even bother watching the second one, because. Avish Parashar: The first of all, so bad. Michael Worth: No it's so bad, it was so, but the best part about it was the fact that Jerry goes with it, the music and the end the score is like legit so uh yeah. Avish Parashar: yeah Mike and I did a movie like podcast slash Facebook live for a while we review an 80s movie each week and we did this one, and it was terrible. Avish Parashar: But we found is almost every week, we talked about how bad the movie was when are we talking about a bad movie the score was always amazing it's like they get better so that's three or like. Michael Worth: This Jesus man well because they knew that we'll get to that a bit, but they knew that the movie was terrible and the only way they could possibly sell which it was to make at least make it sound epic right, so all right, so this. Avish Parashar: We love we both love indiana Jones all genre but this episode is double specials got two additional reasons why it's extra special number one, we have to prep for this episode we interviewed our buddy Craig price. Avish Parashar: was a great movie guy he hosts a podcast called matinee heroes. Avish Parashar: which you can find a matinee heroes COM, or just look up matt night heroes on whatever he also hosts a a a kind of a game show called cast off that Mike and I have appeared on before and we're going to appear on again coming up soon depending when this comes out. Avish Parashar: Where you compete against one recasting famous movie so Mike and I competed recasting interview with a vampire and now we're gonna get crazy. Avish Parashar: So it's a lot of fun craig's a big movie guy he loves indiana Jones so we go in depth into the tropes. Avish Parashar: So we're gonna do that for a trope discussion, the other reason that i'm excited about this genre. Avish Parashar: Is that way back at this point about a year ago, when we first had the idea for this podcast we didn't know if this show format would work, so of course we just jumped in like good improvise it let's try it. Avish Parashar: yeah very first one we ever tried was a indiana Jones movie now that was so new we were just testing stuff out we didn't even bother to record it, which is a shame, because it went really well. Michael Worth: Did I did I was a good show you first really production entertainment, which is record everything record everything right. Avish Parashar: yeah we. Avish Parashar: should have recorded it we didn't. Avish Parashar: But does the first time, returning to this so i've been almost a year since we've done in indiana Jones so we're gonna do today. Avish Parashar: That one was called phineas Jones and the cult of Marmara um we're not going to do the call tomorrow, but we are going to stay with phineas Jones as our main character. Avish Parashar: Yes, you'll see that further adventures of phineas Jones in the in the. Michael Worth: unreleased or the release sequel to the unreleased original which has been lost in the midst of time. Avish Parashar: Exactly it's like when there's a pilot that that's not aired but they still turn into a show that's. Avish Parashar: that's what this is going to be like. Michael Worth: it's gonna be. Avish Parashar: So real quick before we get into all this craziness if you liked this show, if you like, what you hear. Avish Parashar: Please give us a rating and review head over to wherever you listen to your podcasts ideally apple podcast give us a five star rating. Avish Parashar: And if you feel so inclined, just a short review a couple sentences about what you like about the show, and why other should listen and help us out a lot it'll help others find the show and help us grow this podcast. Avish Parashar: Alright, so we are going to start and again, our first segment, which is discussing the tropes we're going to drop in our conversation with Craig price. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: segment two, we are now going to create an outline Based on this information that we talked about with Craig and Mike and I know. Avish Parashar: we're going to create a high level outline we're going to use a four act structure and again, this is a rough guide because of improv comedy we may not follow this outline exactly but there's going to be our rough guide of what happens in each segment of the story yep so like a. Michael Worth: Oh man i'm already all this, you know mean indiana Jones but I love this stuff I think it's one of my favorite films Harrison ford's been in a first of all. Avish Parashar: i'm making a call right so that's going on and i'll real far limb there. yeah. Avish Parashar: So contrary in that I like raiders of the lost Ark I know exactly. Michael Worth: Being like I like to be in the conversation now that's different. Michael Worth: That will be a bold statement yeah or or or the mosquito coast whoo that's it that's it that's it. Michael Worth: So, first of all going to be the call right now, because I know this this this flow we're doing a prologue not a trailer because they always do a prologue that's a fun little cold open unrelated to the main quest. Avish Parashar: yeah and. Avish Parashar: For this prologue you will be the one singing anything goes in China. Michael Worth: Yes, in China. Michael Worth: Steven spielberg's wife right and play police gotten that right. Avish Parashar: yeah at least wife at the time, I know they're still married or not. Michael Worth: yeah who knows man and Hollywood whatever so uh it's pretty easy act act one is establishing of our character in his everyday life, because you know this guy is is not a. Michael Worth: Just like in the library and indiana Jones he has a normal life and it gets sent out on missions uh and then the establishment of. Michael Worth: Information that some artifact exists, whether it's oh we've got news clippings of somebody excavating this pyramid or whatever, and that is the gestation to send them out on a quest we don't see. Avish Parashar: It so there's the prologue that act one is like. Avish Parashar: You have the like the exposition yeah. Michael Worth: The inciting the inciting information is really what it is. Avish Parashar: yeah and then you either it's a conversation with the professor, you know the government comes in, or you know the villagers came to him in yeah yeah. Michael Worth: orange or a private investor in who. Michael Worth: You know, has an affair, the private investor in the last crusade. Avish Parashar: Yes, yes, his. Avish Parashar: intention is to walk the the snow walkers the Ad ads to the. Michael Worth: he's like is he getting revenge because hog got purchase layout during the added innovation. Avish Parashar: For those who don't know the bad guy in a holy grail or last crusade, is also the commander of the ad ads in empire strikes back. Michael Worth: Exactly there it is. Avish Parashar: Julian glover right. Michael Worth: Yes, yes he's been he's been a bunch of things. Avish Parashar: Alright, so. Avish Parashar: Okay, so act one we establish that and then he goes on there's usually the first um he can investigate the first clue and. Avish Parashar: So there's some action there's some some yeah and I think we found over the last few months that yo loser outlines, so we don't need a whole lot when we meet the hero first clue and you're going to use the meat, the female interest in in that first. Michael Worth: And, and this is a great way, especially because that's that we've really tightened up our structure he's going to find the clues and act to. Michael Worth: That get him to the object in APP three that's how we kind of parse it out and an APP to it's also going to have his first couple one or two for us probably one because it's shorter interacted with the bad guy and or his cronies. Avish Parashar: Rights Act to heal me it'll be the bad guy he'll fail, I think, the one thing I read a book. Avish Parashar: On screenwriting and it's talking about the concept of spectacular failure and it's like that's why indiana Jones is so good, not because he succeeds in fact he fails, like every step of the way he has failed spectacularly. Michael Worth: yeah exactly. Avish Parashar: don't act one you know they they get the first clue act to they pretty much like he basically it's like each actors just act one you get a clue. Avish Parashar: That leads you to act two which ends with them fighting another clue which is X three of them fighting another clue and then an act for is when they find and then lose the final object yeah. Michael Worth: or they finally did the end of that three and then kind of everything goes wrong and act for. Avish Parashar: Sure, I guess, in. Avish Parashar: In raiders lost Ark to actually find the Ark but then lose it and then have to get they ultimately lose it act for but right. Avish Parashar: But basically it's just a clue clue. Avish Parashar: Resolution. Michael Worth: yeah exactly and and and every step of the way that you have to flush out a little bit of a couple of number one is that the enemy is almost always i'm able to become either not one step ahead but they're able to whenever. Michael Worth: Whenever phineas gains is taken away so it's never like he gets there and they've already found the Ark and taking it it's like, no, no, he gets York and the bad guys swoop in like like cheap bullies in a playground, the second is. Avish Parashar: it's almost like you're saying there's nothing you can have that I cannot take. Michael Worth: I know it's like. Michael Worth: Well, I got I hate the fridge. Avish Parashar: Now let's go to let's go to the show today baby. Michael Worth: So um but here's The other thing diabolical death traps and puzzles we don't have too many of them, but like that that'll be. Avish Parashar: gather are like. Avish Parashar: A lot, and you know what is it's it's the things we need this death traps. Avish Parashar: And there's riddles and. Michael Worth: puzzles and. Avish Parashar: yeah puzzle the puzzle so death traps and puzzles. Avish Parashar: yeah it's um and they'll kind of come in. Avish Parashar: And they can be throughout like it can be an act to or activity or act for. Michael Worth: Sure, for sure. Avish Parashar: yeah when he def traps and puzzles. Michael Worth: And then act for is a the following happens like there's look, you know whether or not we've they've got the artifacts in that three or where they get an act for. Michael Worth: They they lose it right and then their witness the bad guys get greedy and they're witnessed to the. Michael Worth: exposition of the power of the artifact and it basically killed on the bad guys and saves them right or or or you know that's so basically look at with a big part of that for is like. Michael Worth: They opened pandora's box they shouldn't have done that, and then, and then we get to have all sorts of fun descriptions of all the cool things that happen. Avish Parashar: yeah that's a real as artifact it ends up backfire on the good guys and. Avish Parashar: Have those ones one other thing Oh, at some point if we're going to indiana Jones there's always some kind of creature issue like critters you know snakes. Michael Worth: Oh rats. Avish Parashar: rats bugs. Avish Parashar: there's always like some kind of one of the traps or situations as. Michael Worth: They have to open yeah man it's actually it's funny like when you think about all things that that Spielberg and Lucas, I put in this it actually is kind of a railroad movie plot, you know. Avish Parashar: it's just. Michael Worth: You kind of have to you have to tick the boxes, a little bit right. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah yeah I mean that's what we do right we just follow the guy was what makes indiana Jones movie without those elements at what point are we going to make sure aliens appear in this story. Michael Worth: Not aliens extra dimensional beings. Avish Parashar: entire discussion we just basically ignored the fact. Avish Parashar: That crystal skull exists. Michael Worth: Exactly, although and i'm going to wrap up with this one thing that people do forget and it's only because i'm in video games and I love and i'm working on adventure games right now and narrative games. Michael Worth: There was a slew of high quality Lucas arts games, the Emperor tomb the staff Atlantis that were like legit puzzle games and or legit third person. Avish Parashar: I. Avish Parashar: You know what I knew they were, I never actually played any of them, but I always want to play the Atlanta when I heard amazing things about that one. Michael Worth: Is that the one that was the classic king's quest where's the side scrolling adventure one, I think that. Avish Parashar: I think that was maybe yeah probably I also like the whole tomb raider franchises essentially like. Michael Worth: indiana Jones with. Avish Parashar: Dr Jones variations of. Avish Parashar: All right, well, that was our timer we got kind of a good basic outline so.
In a World…where people feel safe and assume monsters aren't real…there exists a second world of evil and vampires. However, there is one man who walks in both worlds, and he may be the only thing between evil and light. He is…SLICE. This episode features the improv comedy games Movie Trailer in a Minute, Best of Times / Worst of Times, Last Letter / First Letter, Blind Line, and Cutting Room. About This Episode In this episode, we pay homage to vampire hero movies - those awesome action movies where the vampire (at least one of them) is the hero. We recorded this to prep for Morbius, but since we hadn't seen it yet this episode is much more of an homage to Blade. It is also the first episode we recorded in 2022, and we tweak our format a bit. We hope you like it! Links Blade on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_(film) Underworld on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underworld_(2003_film) Morbius on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morbius_(film) Time Codes Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: Start of show: Improv Game - Movie Trailer in a Minute Improv Game - Best of Times / Worst of Times Improv Game - Last Letter / First Letter Improv Game - Blind Line Improv Game - Cutting Room: End of show, into announcements: More Information About the Show, Mike, and Avish Subscribe to the podcast: http://AvishAndMike.com/Subscribe/ Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: Alright, so if you've been listening for a while, you know, this is our five minutes segment where we discussed the tropes and cliches our second change we're doing to our format trying this out for 2022 is. Avish Parashar: Mike and I bring a lot of history to a lot of these movies and genres so which may be comes out in the show, but maybe the audience is aware of that so we're going to expand this segment to closer to 10 minutes. Avish Parashar: But so we're going to start first by talking a little bit about the movie and our experience with the genre and Mike this is. Avish Parashar: probably true for many movies matrix certainly um, but this is one we actually saw together. Avish Parashar: We played. Avish Parashar: together in the theater way back when so take us back, would you remember, like what What did you think when you saw blade for the first time. Michael Worth: Oh man I forgot that we start the theater together to you know the um what did I think my first take was um i'm damn this is stylish like this was like because. Michael Worth: Up until now, what other superhero movies were there, there was Batman Batman was cool but I had a bit of the Gothic this at the other end seen Superman so this comes in and the. Avish Parashar: Opening when it goes this. Avish Parashar: Before was this before after spider man, this is right around spider man. Michael Worth: This was before Spiderman, but it was a because spider man is as a mom as an MC you so yeah it was before Spiderman um and it was after Batman cuz Let me take a look here. Michael Worth: bleed film um but I remember walking in and you're watching them go to that rave club and it's all like full that great 90s like. Avish Parashar: It does oh yeah. Michael Worth: And it's all you know slickly shot and then, when the blood comes down. Michael Worth: And the guys you see the reversal you guys the guy that's gonna get eaten and then blade shows up and they're all stuck around have covered and read being fair like hot shit this movie it's doubling down on visual imagery like. Avish Parashar: It was yeah. Michael Worth: So stylish. Avish Parashar: Was it was so cool and Wesley snipes was just cool as blade. Michael Worth: Yes, absolutely. Avish Parashar: excited because I think they do a remake with a mashallah alli and I think you'd be great as a blade yeah but Wesley snipes was just so and he delivered the most ridiculous one liners so well. Michael Worth: Oh, the credibility people forget about Wesley snipes like about a he's a legit martial artists like he trains hard and he's kind of Michael J white when he's got like legit chops to he can make shuts down so smugly like self pompous some of the Fuck is always trying to escape. Avish Parashar: The line I love that. Michael Worth: so good, and he just delivers it with such like, just like I do this lads fucking stupid, but i'm gonna make it awesome right um. Avish Parashar: it's funny because when blade came out I feel like I read a lot of comic was growing up and I read a bunch of spider man, but I think when it came out I didn't even realize that bleed was a marvel comics character, I just thought it was I got cool vampire movie. yeah yeah. Avish Parashar: And it was so it doesn't feel like a comic movie it feels like a vampire movie. Avish Parashar: Great. Michael Worth: A good darkness to where the vampire is the hero is a vampire hunter first in the style of van helsing it's not like he's like a superhero right. Avish Parashar: yeah it's like a vampire vampire hunter which is awesome. Michael Worth: yeah exactly and and the plot is legit I didn't like, and this is this is always going to be a problem, going to see if more be as well. Michael Worth: As this the vampire villains are hard, it is hard to set up a vampire film to be blades match because blade is pretty clever and the amazing physical specimen so you got to play the vampire mastermind against him because blade can wade through. Avish Parashar: yeah he just like phase waves of bad guys would like a mastermind meeting them all. Michael Worth: Right, and so the mastermind of the first one was deacon frost and his big thing was he's trying to resurrect the blood God um it was a decent enough. Michael Worth: hook, for it but, and it was you know, certainly a very solid hook, in terms of yeah again okay vampire trying to resurrect an all powerful for us trying to like you know become immortal or you know super powered. Michael Worth: But it just I think like anything else the protagonist is defined by how good the antagonist is and I thought that decompress was great in this as a character. Michael Worth: yeah whiny email 90s post-punk you know. Avish Parashar: And if I recall correctly blade tues better in that context, like blade to actually look like was good from blade and had like a better villain and had almost like an alien sort of subplot like. Avish Parashar: Yes, like a aliens feel to it. Michael Worth: It did because that was one where they their experiments kind of vampire and made vampire vampires like a metal vampire and he could convert vampires into reapers and it did have an alien's five to it. Avish Parashar: yeah and. Michael Worth: They brought out the one thing that blade didn't do as well, they brought it and blade to was they brought out some of like the light hearted like badass humor of Wesley snipes his character blade like he was very grim in the first one. Michael Worth: And the second we did a lot more funny lines a lot like that scene, where he you know i'm steers up decks who's buying the blows a kiss at his bike before it goes off. Michael Worth: And fun kills the vampires like it was yeah. Avish Parashar: It was really good. Michael Worth: So I would I would actually live out of state as we're starting to move into blade blade you know doing this oh my gosh we incorporate elements of blade too, because that was. Avish Parashar: Another I think. Avish Parashar: Any kind of jack and it's funny like we call this blade it's gonna be more of an homage to blade but you know, this also kind of kicked off the like the whole underworld series is kind of like this. Avish Parashar: Right yeah yeah so the vampire and what's his name is a werewolf and like yeah so yep it's. Michael Worth: I have to also say that one of the things for you as we start to build the actors and it's always fun for us to try and do this in another podcast but. Michael Worth: The action scenes are beautifully choreographed like Wesley snipes knows karate or Kung fu fill it up Filipino cali and Judo so his shit is tight like he's doing all the trapping and all the wing chun. Avish Parashar: He knows yeah but. Avish Parashar: It was like a combination like superhero vampire and martial arts movie which was it at the time wow. Avish Parashar: Very you know with brain we're that was we were both. Avish Parashar: very regularly training together martial arts, I was like we just saw this cool, so I think we like incorporate that. Michael Worth: into our training yeah yeah, we were told we weren't you and I are both. Michael Worth: Training G condo in cali and then we had come off of rookie tempo and small circle Jiu jitsu so we had the lots of stuff that we see this guy with all the outside. Avish Parashar: yeah alright so let's kind of transition point, then, so this kind of our history with it we love so much of it, so what are then. Avish Parashar: blade specifically but really any of these kind of you know sort of vampires among us, but the vampires the hero type movie what are some of you said you know, like, and this will be hard for the podcast but choreographed fight beautifully choreographed fight scenes. Michael Worth: yeah totally full full of slick martial arts, I mean it's definitely is a high martial arts quota. Michael Worth: and Avish Parashar: You know just just general like action and, like popcorn action yeah. Michael Worth: yeah yeah slickly shot, you know slickly told in our in our in our point um it's the underworld is a great idea there's a shadow world full of the Raven loft Gothic stuff so the vampires live among us. Avish Parashar: And you know revealing to all our listeners that we are dungeons and dragons nerds absolutely. Maybe. Michael Worth: So that's a big component, which is the vampires are not these federal creatures living in the wilderness they usually have two hooks into corporate America in. Avish Parashar: an urban environment yeah. Avish Parashar: And yeah most they're not well known, like the World doesn't know they exist, the hero is a vampire for our story it's a vampire hero yep. Michael Worth: Exactly or something with vampiric powers, and you know. Avish Parashar: Like a half vampire vampire day Walker. Michael Worth: None of this like i'm a highly trained to you, but no, no, no he's got a touch to the supernatural with this. yeah. Avish Parashar: I say to your point, like the villain needs to be. Avish Parashar: A mastermind a mastermind but even like it could be a badass but like usually it's some kind of like it should be one level above the vampire like a like an elder I like a lot of the stories, especially underworld has like the Elder vampires or the god vampire not just a regular vampire. Michael Worth: Right he's got additional powers and certainly additional resources and cloud, you know. Michael Worth: The vampires in these kind of movies, are cannon fodder which and what and what you'll show is you'll show us with the vampires beating up on people and then you'll see the blade character going through them and that basically showcases like the how bad ass blade is you know. Avish Parashar: yeah. Michael Worth: By the way, seagal can take a page from these kind of movie because he said I was trying to basically be blade but he fails were played succeeds. Avish Parashar: So yeah it does in many, many. Michael Worth: Ways our defensive level get some point so. Avish Parashar: there's no other guy a. Michael Worth: plot is pretty easy usually what happens is. Michael Worth: The main character uncovers a small criminal act which is part of a series of legos building to the big criminal plot. Michael Worth: So, like you know why are you breaking in and stealing this type of blood, you know he stops that robbery and they start researching and say Oh well, that type of blood is. Avish Parashar: For this spend on the plan. Avish Parashar: almost always involves either. Avish Parashar: Taking out all the humans and turning them into food like enslaving humans or raising. Avish Parashar: The apocalypse raising the Elder God that's good yeah. Michael Worth: Either superpowers, the head either making him super powerful or phrases like. Michael Worth: Or, he said it wipes out the human race it's it's either it's one of those two hands. Avish Parashar: So something apocalyptic on scale like yeah. Avish Parashar: Exactly yeah. Michael Worth: turn them all into food or whatever um. Avish Parashar: So there's all. Avish Parashar: there's usually the the hero is almost always like very withdrawn, but then encounter someone usually like a love interest or sort of a love interest. Michael Worth: Interest tonight. Avish Parashar: opens them up yeah. Michael Worth: The hero, if we want to play it like blade and I think we should will usually have one or two assistants that are playing Q and playing you know Q, like the James Bond techie there's usually a tech. Avish Parashar: yeah like like Christmas. Michael Worth: With her he actually and actually, this is a variation of the he had two and one of them betrayed that's that might be a little complex for a podcast there's nothing wrong with just having the hero kiss tech support and, like the love interest and that kind of works out um. Avish Parashar: yeah. Michael Worth: And so it's pretty it's pretty straightforward actually like the plot is literally that which is here shows up foil some small crime. Avish Parashar: yeah very nicely into our format because it's like all right, some stuff happens investigates. Avish Parashar: Proactive than big finish. Michael Worth: yep and, of course, of course, the drive in the in the final act to make the big finish is that his love interest and or his partner get kidnapped. Michael Worth: and Michael Worth: You know yeah. Michael Worth: yeah so now, yes, and not only go to stop the plan, but he also has to go for personal reasons, sometimes you'll see them get killed, but I don't know that's not necessary that's basically it, I mean it's pretty. Avish Parashar: And we are. Michael Worth: And there's always one liners there's. Michael Worth: always like a straight aloes humor one liners, you know. Avish Parashar: And there's something we That was a duck timer. Avish Parashar: The one thing that we. Avish Parashar: Probably don't have a lot of us have a lot of mythology which I don't think we need to get too far into like. Avish Parashar: Who was the god back that and what caused this now why the stone needs to be found to be this would. Michael Worth: Probably just enough mythology to justify the big bad evil guys. Avish Parashar: Most yeah it's improv comedy surprise sticking the mythology when we need it like oh yeah. Michael Worth: What will it do deus ex market a deus ex mythology you know. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: segment two all right now, we will hash out a high level outline we're going to use a for act structure. Avish Parashar: we're going to kind of figure out what happens in each act roughly we may not stick to it once we get into it, because it's improv, but this is kind of our guidelines for what's going to happen. Michael Worth: There aren't any more of a guideline. Avish Parashar: yeah exactly. Avish Parashar: Alright, so five minute timer. Michael Worth: We did come up by the way for listeners, you need to weigh in on what you want our time to change to for this year, because you might come with a new sound I don't know if. Avish Parashar: that's true I just been using the duck because i'm too lazy. Michael Worth: yeah but i'll build something or maybe if there's you know, looking at phrase you want us to. Avish Parashar: love it. Avish Parashar: Alright, so next one, what needs to happen in act one. Avish Parashar: It almost always opens with some kind of violence yeah. Michael Worth: So basically here's what it opens with it opens with the switch from the the the world that we think we know to the actual world, so it starts off with something very, very plain and blah and then all sudden the latest switched. Michael Worth: And all of a sudden, you see all the vampires you realize that the world you think you know, is a dangerous world and we're actually the lowest form of on the food chain. Michael Worth: And we're introduced to the main character, the main character just shows up and just just carnage like it's that simple right. Avish Parashar: yeah and and usually something happens right at the end, like you know he. Avish Parashar: Like you said discovers that crime or like finds a medallion that one of the bad guys left behind, or like basically starts them down the path to be like hey what the hell is a scope what's going on here like something you discover something unusual like at the end of that sequence. Avish Parashar: Or the last. Michael Worth: yeah exactly and um the the love interest is introduced at this point as either one of two things. Michael Worth: Either they're involved in that initial fight and they kind of tag along or they're the first clue linchpin to him uncovering the mystery like he's like oh they're doing this special kind of why they Robin this special kind of metal so he goes to like a metallurgist. Avish Parashar: And the metallurgist right they'd be born act, too, but yeah so somewhere, maybe act one they might be like a victim right. Avish Parashar: The thing or so maybe here, maybe act to we'll figure that out. Michael Worth: that's pretty much at once it's that fast and easy. Avish Parashar: yeah and active and I like to act, too, I think we're going to meet the sidekicks the assistance yep. Michael Worth: And so, less is more here if we just have one. Avish Parashar: that's fine but loaded, yet we meet the assistant. Avish Parashar: We investigate whatever they discovered in act one they do some investigation there's usually some kind of a token action senior. Michael Worth: Why um well what happens is uh yeah and we're introduced to the big bad guy and usually that took an action scene is. Michael Worth: blade the character starting to interfere with one of the stages of the of the plopping put in that attracts his attention to the bad guy the bad guys like whoa whoa what happened, what, why did my guys not come back from this particular thing and then. Avish Parashar: The bag I learned about maybe he would add guy you know he's investigating some of the course investigation cross paths with the bad guys action scene, but then, by the end of that act he's kind of. Avish Parashar: he's got a clue like of what's going on a little bit more of a clue i'm. Avish Parashar: You know. Michael Worth: i'm seeing the full plot, the end of that too it's not the full plot. Avish Parashar: He gets he that doesn't right like a lot of times at the end of Act two he'll know like i'm. Avish Parashar: Not the full picture, but a much bigger piece of the picture like he'll learn who the bad guy is right that's a lot of times will happen like. Avish Parashar: Killing counter the bag like oh crap it's deacon frost now we gotta yeah and he's trying to collect all the blood for some reason, let me. Avish Parashar: write like in the beginning of actually has no idea what the real plan is he's like Oh, and actually kind of learns a plan, but as know why and then an act three he proactively investigates. Michael Worth: Right and that three is worth two things happen. Michael Worth: A the plot is revealed like and and again we want blade to be an empowered hero he figures it out. Avish Parashar: yeah. Michael Worth: it's not one of these, maybe a little bit of monologue but, but basically blade gets the point where he's like OK, I see what's going on yeah. Avish Parashar: it's kind of this matrix resurrection crap. Michael Worth: i've Tyson thanks, a lot of. Michael Worth: A lot to learn from listening to Wesley snipes today. Michael Worth: God damn it. Avish Parashar: just said. Avish Parashar: Some other factor is always trying to ice skate uphill. Michael Worth: To save the film. Michael Worth: So i'm a what buddy and actually here's what happened, he thinks that the plot the villain does something to take him out of the picture, which often involves kidnapping and this is the heroes darkest hour where you're like oh shit blade at his powers removed or he's entombed or whatever. Avish Parashar: What often happens in X three is the hero goes out to stop the bad guy and he often succeeds, but what happens is behind the scenes, then the bad guy gets what he actually wanted and like kidnaps the assistant or love interest it's like. Michael Worth: Oh yeah it looks. Avish Parashar: cool I gotta stop him from getting this you know blood of the ancients and he does, but oh crap when I get home everyone's gone and they actually got what they needed and now everything yeah. Michael Worth: So he gets a little outmaneuver. Avish Parashar: Like basically yes yeah. Michael Worth: That that can happen yeah that's gonna be awesome can pull that up i'd be pretty cool but, basically, then that just doesn't act for which is just the big ol. Michael Worth: assault assault the bad guys fortress right he walks in he most out a bunch of people um the the whatever experiment or ritual or plan is being brought to fruition and he ends up either stopping the plan of the planting seeds he defeats the. Avish Parashar: yeah usually there's some clever way he comes up with to stop it or to. Avish Parashar: To win, even though it started out. Michael Worth: He just makes a motherfucker skate uphill. Michael Worth: greatest lie ever. Avish Parashar: show good. Avish Parashar: timer we do. Avish Parashar: We got we need. Michael Worth: This this man sometimes simple as the way to. Avish Parashar: Action movies. Michael Worth: right man godless critical drinker talks about 90s action movies, like demolition man of stuff and it's a goddess to so fucking nice to have a simple action movie right. Michael Worth: So oh yeah so yeah.
In a World…where some appreciate art, there are others who appreciate it just a little too much. This is the story of Raymond, a poet, who has the unfortunate experience of meeting his number one fan… This episode features the improv games Movie Trailer in a Minute, Ding, He Said She Said, Emotional Lists, Cutting Room, Show Notes: About This Episode In this episode, we pay homage to “bed-ridden horror movies, most specifically Stephen King's Misery. In fact, this episode is basically a straight-up parody of that movie/book. If you are a fan of Stephen King, Annie Wilkes, and Paul Sheldon, this is the episode for you! Links Misery on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misery_(film) Time Codes Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 03:56 Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 10:17 Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 17:35 Start of show: 24:05 Improv Game - Movie Trailer in a Minute: 25:55 Improv Game - Ding: 27:39 Improv Game - He Said She Said: 34:16 Improv Game - Emotional Lists: 42:00 Improv Game - Cutting Room: 50:18 End of show, into announcements: 1:01:53 More Information About the Show, Mike, and Avish Subscribe to the podcast: http://AvishAndMike.com/Subscribe/ Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: segment one discussing the tropes so now we're going to spend five minutes discussing the tropes of this type of movie so i'm gonna set my timer for five minutes. Avish Parashar: And Mike why don't you start off since you're the one who initially mentioned the genre when you think of misery rear window carol's game. Mike Worth: Joking yeah yeah yeah. Avish Parashar: That one at the rear window knock off with Charlotte both like whatever. Mike Worth: yeah or the phone booth one, whatever that one is. Avish Parashar: yeah phone booth you mean phone booth. Mike Worth: what's that when we live photo booth and that's called Feral. Mike Worth: Apparently, I had a lot of wine last night um so you know here's the overarching thing that I think is actually big for all of Stephen king's things, but I think really applies to this, which is Stephen King loves to show true evil. Mike Worth: When a small person in a small slice of America gain some element of power he's not about having a huge distractible. Mike Worth: You know, like overlord who's like built an army of robots he's about the small town sheriff who could just let his bigotry run rampant and that turns into something horrible. Mike Worth: And so that's very much what happens in misery you've got this small town small obsessive person she's I mean she's a nurse, you know, so what I mean is. Mike Worth: A central tenet should be this person should feel completely normal as a person, and then, when this obsessive psychosis manifests it makes it that much more terrifying and money. Avish Parashar: yeah yes terrible. Avish Parashar: yeah and and along the lines you basically you got two main characters your protagonist and antagonist. Avish Parashar: And then maybe a couple of small you know, like the COP who ends up dying, or like the the assistant or girlfriend who kind of helps because the person depending on exactly the setup so, but it really is like it's really like a two person story yeah. Mike Worth: yeah totally and and not only that it's a 2% story the protagonist. Mike Worth: has something the antagonist wants and the whole point of the story is that it's a giant kind of like psychological torture porn where. Mike Worth: The antagonist is trying to get the protagonist to exceed to his or her wishes in the case of misery it's you know finishing the book but, but this is not. Mike Worth: she's not just being he or whatever is not being cruel, for the sake of being cruel in his own twisted world the antagonist wants to help the protagonist by exceeding. Avish Parashar: yeah I mean, especially if you're going down the misery route yeah It is like. Avish Parashar: The villain is. Avish Parashar: You know it's not like saw or hostile where the villain just wants to kill and torture and name there's like they have some code or some justification in their in their mind they're not the villain right they I think they're yeah yeah they're like they almost think that being helpful. Mike Worth: Exactly exactly that's that's part of what makes it so horrific like you know in misery, where she smashed his legs and stuff I gotta be really careful I don't want to like beat for beat turns into misery, because because there's other things we can do, but there's that's that now. Avish Parashar: But that doesn't always make for a fun day when we've done that, so when we just had to do like a parody that ends up being pretty fun. Mike Worth: let's do we when we've done quite well so okay that's good now the other, the other trips or this it's almost always in a. Mike Worth: Small kind of picture picture is kind of Well he can be. Mike Worth: I was gonna say misery takes place kind of like a little Colorado. Mike Worth: lodge and Stephen King likes that whole New England thing so that's part of the trope um the protagonist is almost always ill equipped for this he's not like an army ranger who's been like crippled it's like an author or a painter or you know just maybe just. Avish Parashar: yeah he's not like a combat veteran. Mike Worth: Know uh he has to it is heavy on the psychological at winning and and there is an the. Mike Worth: protagonist defeats the antagonist by using. Mike Worth: her own goals or his own goals against him it's not like the antagonist suddenly regains the ability to escape and just fleas he finds a way to like turn the tables. Avish Parashar: yeah he actually defeats the except in phone booth but that's all of the thing but yeah he finds a way to defeat the the antagonist and along the way, though there's usually at least one if not two like tense sequences of like them, trying to escape. Avish Parashar: You know, maybe they're healthier the other person knows. Avish Parashar: or they break in where they're not supposed to and but the other person is coming back and so there's not like that that kind of tense the future tense sequence or some nature. Mike Worth: yeah there's always going to be, it is Stephen king, so it could be a couple of deaths and the deaths are going to be, I mean I hate to say it, but usually the set one of the second tier character bites it, you know. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah. Mike Worth: And not only that it it the deaths are not gruesome and they're not graphic, but they are terrifying because it's kind of like the the idea. Mike Worth: Of this. Is the person is showing. Avish Parashar: terrifying in the movie in the movie and misery, she shoots the Sheriff in the. Avish Parashar: Books funds over him with a lawn mower I think. Mike Worth: Oh, you serious oh. Mike Worth: yeah about that never got the books, the Stephen King books is good. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah and in the movie she hobbled them with a hammer, in the book she cuts off megaman X yeah. Avish Parashar: yeah. Mike Worth: So that's pretty much it, I mean, is it are the tropes that simple well you know what look a Stephen King look at the book cujo what does cujo about a Feral dog they're trapped in a car and a House like his stuff can be really. Avish Parashar: yeah yeah he really digs into like I mean that's The other thing I didn't mean to say as much the the protagonist usually has some kind of. Avish Parashar: flaw or issue that kind of gets explored through the through the trauma. Mike Worth: Right like an issue would be like what like his inability to like commit to his family or or the fact that he's. Avish Parashar: yeah he's never lost his misery, but I think in misery like he kind of you know his like creative burnout and like he was not gonna do any more misery stories right, you know he's like creatively burnt out from it, I think he has an alcohol issues and his past and i'm. Avish Parashar: Good man yeah that Stephen King oh yeah. Avish Parashar: You know yeah. Avish Parashar: Gerald game, which is another one or something, but that one like the woman had her whole life, she was abused as a kid and repressed it never dealt with in you know, the fact that it's such a small story lends itself more to like internal. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: kind of reflection yeah right so that are as a bunch of controls, so now we get to. Avish Parashar: Creating the outline so now we're gonna spend about five minutes just generating a high level outline for this movie we will. Avish Parashar: We use a four X structure. Avish Parashar: And then each one will have an improv game we'll get to that later and then this is a starting point, because it's in probably May. Avish Parashar: stick to this, we may veer off of it a little bit or we may completely abandoned it halfway through, but this gives us a sort of starting point. Avish Parashar: Through outline. Avish Parashar: We always start with either a prologue or a trailer yeah. Mike Worth: This is gonna be probably a. Mike Worth: trailer but now i'm not sure. Avish Parashar: All right, well let's let's see what i'm doing that in our and I was. Mike Worth: Like reading a piece of music, you always leave the intro till the end because because that you know. yeah. Mike Worth: X one X one. Avish Parashar: X two X over X one um I mean that you gotta these stories get started pretty quickly, so we need to establish the hero, and the villain and whatever situation, whatever reason he gets trapped needs to happen in aqua. Mike Worth: yep that's that's pretty much what it is you establish the hero what his career slash jobs niches that makes him valuable to the antagonist and you set them up to get trapped right. Mike Worth: i've got a really interesting idea to be floating around that event but i'm trying not to like to improv push it but i've got a really interesting idea at the end of act one i'm probably the oh hold on just one second let's do a quick little clap. Mike Worth: Yes, Sir i'm on the podcast what's up. Great to please Thank you. Mike Worth: So in act one um we hear the protagonist and we hear and the antagonist I think in act one we we get to the point where the protagonist is now in the hands of the antagonist. Mike Worth: And I think at the end of the Act one we figure out the the antagonist a is not all there and B is determined to correct the protagonists. Avish Parashar: yeah I think that I think in some stories, you might say, oh at the end of act one is when the hero. Avish Parashar: gets injured and can kind of take it in, but I think in most of these stories that actually happens near the beginning, and then the end of act one yeah because in the beginning, I think it's also not clear that. Avish Parashar: The antagonist is bad or crazy they might just seem a little odd right, but then it's like the end of act one is when you realize oh there's something's not quite right about this person. Mike Worth: Right right into the REP and it directly manifest with some decisions, the protagonist is making in their life or career, that the antagonist is what's. Mike Worth: yeah so okay so that's pretty good at one right that's. Avish Parashar: yeah that's pretty straightforward so then act two is where um. Avish Parashar: But I think he still he or she the hero is still sort of recovering from whatever reason they're there. Avish Parashar: That are trying to like. Avish Parashar: I think there's still sort of treating it normally like I just got to convince this person i'm okay I got to convince them to go get me help it take me to a hospital. Avish Parashar: they're not desperate yet they're just like trying to play this person and and populate them in a way to kind of get them out of there, yes. Mike Worth: At the end of Act two is when the protagonist realizes that the antagonist is too far gone in terms of like. Mike Worth: You know she's not going or he you know, whatever we want to do is not going to let me go, it could be something like. Mike Worth: The police officer shows up and he's in the other room and he sees the antagonists like completely just like lie to say i've never seen him and he's like oh wow she really won't let me go, you know kind of thing. Mike Worth: Because that's and and she might even physically restrain him or you know hammered of the ankle because I think that's kicks in act three, which is what he begins to formulate a plan. Mike Worth: and go reactive to We always say is you said it perfectly are active at three is always reactive to proactive. Avish Parashar: reactive reactive he's like just trying to play the situation figure this person. Mike Worth: asking me she'll figure it out she'll she'll she'll let me go. Avish Parashar: A little odd or he lot and crazy, but I think you know if I can just kind of. Avish Parashar: See I think yeah then that revelation comes in an actor, he is when he goes proactive, I think this is where if there's gonna be a 10 sequence where he's like trying to explore the House or get out or get to the phone escape. Mike Worth: plan yeah exactly. Avish Parashar: Because proactive tries to do something tries to. Avish Parashar: But I think I think I think the big thing here is certainly we're looking at misery in act three he's proactive but he's trying to escape or get help, yes I think act for is when it's proactive. Avish Parashar: Timing to defeat the villain yep. Mike Worth: Bingo. Avish Parashar: that's perfectly actor, he is he's gonna try to escape. Mike Worth: yeah he is but he's also going to find out her some of her Achilles heels, but he's gonna find out that stuff in that three if it all works out well you know so man. Mike Worth: The plots easy, but the beats for a Stephen King novel are pretty tightly you can't you can't walk around with this you gotta like. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah I mean that's one reason I like reading I read allows even kidding cuz. Mike Worth: yeah i've. Avish Parashar: got some of it is like it's always a. Avish Parashar: Good story things move. Avish Parashar: me he might take 200 pages to make the story move like per chapter, but you know, maybe 1000 pages, but it's always like. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah it's progressing I like it. Mike Worth: yeah and. Avish Parashar: then act for is the confrontation, the. Avish Parashar: hero yep. Mike Worth: And, and we really want to reincorporate everything that we've learned, we want to reincorporate here again the the hero turns the tables on the antagonist. Mike Worth: Through combination of twisting what she wants out of him and exploiting her vulnerabilities and kind of like flaws, incidentally that's it that's that's pretty much it we're ahead of the curve. Avish Parashar: What are we doing we're doing a prologue or a trailer for this. Avish Parashar: trailer right I don't think we need. Mike Worth: To a trailer let's do a trailer because that could have a chance to do more, Stephen King he kind of. Mike Worth: Music yeah, by the way this is random and for dear listeners curious go on a little tangent for a second Dean koontz versus Stephen King they both tend to get lumped together and i've read both of them multiple books. Mike Worth: I love them both are they are they really that simple, though, I feel it includes has a different pacing with Stephen king. Avish Parashar: hey do I mean, I think. Avish Parashar: I think, Stephen king is a better writer I think Dean koontz is a little bit more like. Avish Parashar: I don't know what the word is, but like poppy or you know, Paul be your. Mike Worth: yeah a little more. Avish Parashar: I guess the includes is more like a between or guy versus Stephen king's books, you know, while not like literature, are a little bit more in depth, and I think Stephen king's about writer, but I read a lot of Dean koontz which I got very into him for a while, so his books are entertaining. Mike Worth: Well yeah that's a lesson for our third section is Dean, I remember that what you do is you read the first 14 cookbooks and whatever first four books you choose whatever they are. Mike Worth: Especially in the 90s you love them and then you start reading the rest of your life oh this actually the same for books that it keeps on music over and over so so like for me, the first word that. Mike Worth: we're like watchers and phantoms and midnight and like one other I love them and then they were like the children of twilight does like oh that was just this one rescan now you're like okay. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah. Mike Worth: Good ideas and he's kind of keeps it. Avish Parashar: kind of like our podcast. Mike Worth: Alright, so we're in. Avish Parashar: good shape, I would remind me, though, i'm going to add Dean koontz to our list of future potential. Mike Worth: yeah yeah.
In a world…where some people are meant for greatness while others just want a shot…one team of misfit lacrosse players will have to bond and learn to work together to win the game, go the championship, and save their coach and team. This episode features the improv games 90 Second A to Z, Old Job New Job, World's Worst, He Said She Said, and Cutting Room. About This Episode In this episode, we pay homage to those very entertaining misfit sports movies, like The Replacements, Necessary Roughness, and many, many more. Mike and Avish are actually big fans of Necessary Roughness and have quoted that movie many times over the years, so this episode features a lot of that Scott Bakula classic in it. You can also learn just how little about lacrosse Avish knows… Links Necessary Roughness on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necessary_Roughness_(film) The Replacements on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Replacements_(film) Time Codes Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 05:56 Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 17:41 Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 22:41 Start of show: 29:42 Improv Game - 90 Second A to Z: 33:56 Improv Game - Old Job, New Job: 37:27 Improv Game - World's Worst: 48:54 Improv Game - He Said She Said: 59:14 Improv Game - Cutting Room: 1:08:05 End of show, into announcements: 1:22:19 More Information About the Show, Mike, and Avish Subscribe to the podcast: http://AvishAndMike.com/Subscribe/ Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: All right now we're going to spend about 10 minutes talking about the genre well they're talking about the tropes but also can talk about our experience and kind of what we think about these genres. Avish Parashar: And kind of pull out the tropes that we will use in the discussion so I don't have my duck time I have a different time are here today Oh, but I will set it so 10 minute timer starts now. Michael Worth: or five minute timer or 10 minutes 10 minutes. Avish Parashar: Well, we now we've switched it like a little longer time or because. Oh. Michael Worth: yeah. Avish Parashar: Just like rifling through the toilet so when you when you think about this movie like what's your. Avish Parashar: kind of well, I know what my memory is, but what are, like some of the movies, or what are your memories of experiencing this genre. Michael Worth: Well it's funny because, although we are doing football, the first one that comes to mind is major league because that one kind of was the the rebooting of all those other movies came out afterwards, if necessary, roughness and and. Avish Parashar: on any given Sunday, I think this is a ravenous might have been before but around similar maybe that's the reference later, you might be right yeah. Michael Worth: First of all, what you love, is what I love about it is this. Michael Worth: The coach is always really likable like like he's you know he's not like a tough coach that has to like learn to grow as a person he's already a good guy and so he's trying to just kind of work among this whole real unfair thing you know, like. Michael Worth: Is it could it's cushioning Janeiro and major. Avish Parashar: In necessary roughness and so Robin is. yeah. Michael Worth: There is, I don't want to put any pressure idea but coach scenarios last words were when our i'll die. Michael Worth: Robert lotion event so good, so the coach is always like a good guy like he may have butt heads with with this with this, you know. Avish Parashar: he's like a mentor he's not the coaches like he's like a main character, but he's he rarely goes through, like a character transformation right. Michael Worth: he's the mentor Arc type he's the obi wan. Michael Worth: yeah and so, and you know. Avish Parashar: Gene hackman is like the. Michael Worth: replacements you've got the guy was like I don't know I gotta set a white walls, on the other. Michael Worth: Guy was from major league. Michael Worth: And then of course you've got whoever plays coach Janeiro is really plays pretty well he plays the. Michael Worth: drums on oh yeah yeah um so it's pretty easy one of the great things is part of the fun of this these kind of shows is there's a significant chunk of time of them ferreting out these players to stock their team. Michael Worth: leading them to the most bonkers situations, you know, like Kathy Ireland is like a girls soccer team they're like okay we're gonna you know get that or I think they have. Michael Worth: The Welsh smoker and he's like a soccer player. Avish Parashar: ifans yeah. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah. Avish Parashar: that's it's all misfits because you know these movies. Avish Parashar: And I think that's the when I when I publish this episode and i'm going to describe it as like a sports mitts misfits movie. Avish Parashar: Because that's really what these are and yeah you, because obviously the premise is that, like we don't have a budget or reputation to get real players, so we got to like just pull these like castoffs and other sports yeah the female kicker the the the Irish like smoker kicker. Michael Worth: yeah we usually get like you said linebackers are like ex cons right there like coming out of prison for all like. Avish Parashar: Just oh yeah yeah yeah the COP and the con. Michael Worth: As like yeah was it a. Michael Worth: Who was the COP. Avish Parashar: It was somebody who back row row. Michael Worth: yeah and he was fantastic have that luxury basically this jacked up like FBI guy right are you. Avish Parashar: crazy yeah yeah. Avish Parashar: cuz it's like. Avish Parashar: These movies, are all like On one level they're all terrible um but like are terrible it's such a good way, I mean like major leagues, probably the one that flirted the most of being like a legitimately good movie. yeah. Avish Parashar: Just terrible. Avish Parashar: Terrible but in such a good way. Michael Worth: To get you the ball I catch the ball. Michael Worth: yeah and you know what in the other thing is is there's two ways to go with this and i'm tired tropes little bit um. Michael Worth: The the players all start off immediately feuding and fashioning right like like there's already like they have to learn to grow together as a team that's part of the fun of it so like in the beginning. Michael Worth: What I love about movies, like this is no holds barred and how bad they are in the first couple of games. Avish Parashar: are truly terrible yeah. Michael Worth: Like things that would never happen in a sport habit, because these people are so incompetent like you know, like like one of them gives another player a concussion because they want to, they want to be the one to like. Avish Parashar: Get the back, because they're. Avish Parashar: People in with non sports or non football background so yeah it's like all the martial artist does a tackle by doing a spinning tornado kick like oh. Michael Worth: yeah he looks like like kicks out the dude muy Thai style to. Michael Worth: Exactly yeah I actually think i've already got an idea for that we're going to get one of those guys as a Judo QA and like I said. Avish Parashar: You get the terrible list of them and the thing that's like there's always not always but, at least in more than one there's the. Avish Parashar: The brawl with the opposing team, followed by the bond like that's kind of how they bought it I haven't necessary roughness that happens in the replacement sale I get a brawl yep. Avish Parashar: And for that that's like the MID points, because then, after that, like they're all buddies they're like a gel together and then now they're like all right now let's eat again. Michael Worth: Now what the replacements did, which was Okay, but I don't really feel like we need to do, that the bad guys in their placement, where this the the the initial players are on strike because remember how like they. Michael Worth: kind of coming in in in things like major League and necessary roughness I think it was just. Michael Worth: They were trying to have a winning record they're trying to make it to the playoffs and so there's there might have been some team in the back and they're like you know you some point you're gonna have to play the lions. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah necessary roughness it was the opposing team that was like the big university might necessary roughness that school is like a small like state school. Avish Parashar: scrappy team yeah Texas university and that's what they fought within the brawl replace it with the scabs yeah the. Michael Worth: enemy team that's. Avish Parashar: that's a lot of fun yeah I mean major league didn't have as much, but I think they did have like the Yankees or something like a bad guy was like the actual owner of the. Avish Parashar: team. Michael Worth: Oh, the woman who was the actress yeah yeah so bad and yeah and and they also immediately also played up with some. Michael Worth: They put a little more of the romance angle that corbin bernstein got cheated on by while thing which was a funny art but that's a lot for us to do you know I don't know if you want to. Avish Parashar: Know yeah we're pretty pretty key to the sports we, I think, having an opposing team team is good, and you know obvious things it's almost like the story designed around like moments, you know, like oh what what happened for karate guy had to play football, you know. or. Avish Parashar: The randomness of like you know, in the replacements is like. Avish Parashar: You got the two like bodyguards who are like the alignment it's like how there was a gun and shoot the car it's like. Michael Worth: yeah exactly oh you don't know what it, by the way. Michael Worth: This is one of movies, where I really ate some crow because I told you, for years, we'd watch this movie to watch this movie and then we watched it were like really there's like two or three good scenes first one was awful, but this is in that world slap shot. Avish Parashar: yeah I knew you're gonna say I feel like people who are listening are gonna be upset cuz I feel like that assaulted cult movie that people put. Avish Parashar: You know, like favorites and best I don't know I. Michael Worth: And we, you and I, I saw it was like a teenager and I was like man, this is, this is a great movie this great movie and I really got you to you did sit and watch it with you. Michael Worth: I did watch it, I was like like there's like two or three good seeds. Avish Parashar: Were brothers right like the. Avish Parashar: brothers like whatever the names are. Avish Parashar: They were funny. Michael Worth: yeah there's the hanson brothers. Michael Worth: And that's that's yeah there's that scene, but they're all skating around getting warmed up and they keep on looking at the other team is a scanner rather than just go at it like that's The funny shit. Avish Parashar: That, I think it's like these things are designed around moments, and sometimes the story isn't as strong, but I will say, the one thing that that these all have is there's a redemption Arc for someone. Avish Parashar: In that one it was the coach and slap shot, it was the coach was pulling you. apart. Avish Parashar: But in like usually it's like the start of the team that shane falco was a successful, but then he, like. Avish Parashar: macula didn't finish college and you know Tom berenger was the kind of capture, who is on his last legs so there's always like. Michael Worth: More go with the champion one more. Avish Parashar: Like a older more experienced player like you know we talked about the misfits a lot of them have no experience. Avish Parashar: yeah main characters you just someone with experience but, for whatever reason, they never quite. Avish Parashar: fulfill their potential. Avish Parashar: yeah what happens is. Michael Worth: And then, what happens is then you've got this great interaction between the coach and this main character, because. Michael Worth: They both want the same thing, sometimes they align sometimes they butt heads, because they have different views and at some point the mentor fingers like. Michael Worth: To the main character you're in your own way you've got to you've got to fix this flow and your character before you can actually lead the team, you know so so there's that there's the hero's journey really is, this is the top is the top recruited the misfit. Avish Parashar: Right and that's usually what happens at that midpoint scene right all the way up to that. Avish Parashar: That brawl scene right he's like reluctant and he's kind of keeping this, this is not bond you're connecting with other players yeah you know he's like almost unsure if he even wants to do this again. Avish Parashar: But then that's the moment where he likes steps up and something happens and then nine races roll. Michael Worth: yeah, and I mean honestly it's actually not that hard to plot it's really about would have been really good about coming up with some really funny scenarios because really it is assembling the team funny scenario where do you find these players. Michael Worth: The first, you know chunk of Games were there nothing's going right how How are they taking the game and really. Avish Parashar: Sure, because in the beginning, they lose it's like like this team comes together, because you mentioned like we see them being bad. Avish Parashar: But we might seem to be bad at practice mason being bad in the game, but they lose and then suddenly, they will get it together, and then they go on their winning streak. Avish Parashar: You know, to either make the playoffs it could be making the playoffs could be just winning that one game could be whatever but it's uh. Michael Worth: yeah yeah right. Michael Worth: um. Avish Parashar: So there was one movie I forget what it was, it was one of these or something else, where they literally didn't win a game. Avish Parashar: Until like the finale like the whole point was, I think they didn't win. Michael Worth: It o'neill with the kids one with the annexation of Poland was that one that one. Avish Parashar: Extension of Puerto Rico a little giant. Michael Worth: was that it was just that was just they want to win against. Avish Parashar: I forget what it was like the team was just bad and bad and bad, but then they face the rivals like Alaska and then they finally one so but yeah. Michael Worth: Oh well, that could have been miracle. Michael Worth: That is. No. Michael Worth: Different than a Kurt russell's most. Michael Worth: greatest sports speeches ever where he basically was like nine times out of 10 this team is going to be true, but tonight's. Avish Parashar: Nothing oh and that's a good point trump is there needs to be a motivational speech. Oh yeah. Michael Worth: When are all. Avish Parashar: Every every sports movie has it that dramatically we've had like a real output, you know from any given Sunday, or you know. Avish Parashar: Also honor. Michael Worth: And the other thing is, besides the main character was going to be the coach the main character and that usually one or two other characters might be main everybody else is just a two dimensional fund pasties. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah a lot of stereotypes yeah. Avish Parashar: yeah that's because. Avish Parashar: there's so out of the box like it's, not even a stereotype random like like you said, one or two to mentally yeah. Avish Parashar: yeah character. Michael Worth: is actually one of these fun little hidden gems of movie genres like you don't. Avish Parashar: yeah it is and it's almost I think we're almost finding, sometimes with these shows that. Avish Parashar: The less intricate the plot and the fewer crops are sometimes like when you got a few big tropes and the rest is just like yeah it's not a lot to the story it just got a lot of fun pieces like Oh well, we. Have a lot. Michael Worth: Of. Michael Worth: Basic instinct we're gonna be screwed it's like. Avish Parashar: Oh God yeah. Avish Parashar: We get to like doing are like an. Avish Parashar: ensemble um you know, like murder mystery like knives out or paro. Michael Worth: yeah the knives out. Michael Worth: So screwed. Michael Worth: Alright, so so we're in a good spot here we can jump. Avish Parashar: In yeah so that was the end our timer went off so that was our genre tropes discussion that brings us to. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: Creating the outline, we are now going to spend about five minutes hashing out a high level outline for this movie this is going to be our. Avish Parashar: kind of starting point and our guide, but we may not stick to it entirely and we use a for act structure for different acts to tell the story, and the next segment will pick up will pick an improv game for each act right so. Avish Parashar: Let me start the timer and go cool alright, so now, the one thing we. Michael Worth: Have before we start. Avish Parashar: Before we start, let me tell you something like. Avish Parashar: Our initial thought was football but doesn't really have to be we could part of the randomness, we are very impressive, we could do a different sport like. Michael Worth: it's very true. Avish Parashar: Like something outside of the big four to make it really random or we could do football so that's something we don't need to decide that now, but that's kind of a yeah. Michael Worth: yeah yeah i'm already thinking about that, like what are some sports that we could do that would be kind of bizarre um so that one's pretty easy, which is. Michael Worth: The coach basically loses his team somehow he either has a walk out or they cut his budget or you know he gets transferred to new city and and the team is like nope we love our own code SIA. Michael Worth: And and he's just like. Avish Parashar: And to that point for a lot of these, and this is kind of where the trump thing a lot of times the. Avish Parashar: The person above the coach is not fully supportive of them, you know, like a major league she wants to move the team and necessary roughness the Dean wants to get rid of the football team, all together, so there's often another antagonist who's like. Avish Parashar: Make hard to say organization as a team, but yeah you lose this team um so in this act one he has to get a new team, and this so basically we we meet. Avish Parashar: Next, one we're basically it's like a tryouts right basically meet the coach set up maybe set up the rival like Oh, you know we got to make the playoffs, otherwise we lose our license or I always want to beat you know Texas a&m or whatever. Avish Parashar: yeah yeah we gotta meet. Avish Parashar: And do the tryouts and by the end of act one we've essentially chosen and assemble the team. Michael Worth: The team yeah exactly um. Avish Parashar: There might be a short scene between the coach and the main character like where to meet the manager. Michael Worth: Right who's going to become kind of liaison to the team of the coach and also have a hero's growth so that's one at to. Avish Parashar: That one with the meeting I would say a lot of these movies. Avish Parashar: And certainly in the two primary ones we're doing as a reference in the replacements, the main character is sought out so like I think like they gotta go get Scott bakula and gene hackman goes to get canneries they don't come back like say I want a part of this. Michael Worth: Oh no yeah they're reluctant, they were reluctant hero it's the hero's journey is really that that. Avish Parashar: is true like yeah they're refusing the call before the call even covered. Michael Worth: Call to adventure. Avish Parashar: yeah exactly right so then act two. Michael Worth: Is their first practices and their first games where everything goes to shit. it's super easy right. Michael Worth: they're not working together as a team they're they're at each other's faces probably there's factions within it, and then they shit the bed with games and that's just going to be that's got to be bonkers over the top, like Mr bean level fail right, just like. Avish Parashar: they're just in a lot of weird ways. Michael Worth: yeah no. Avish Parashar: Right. Avish Parashar: Alright, so, then I would say in a normal movie like I said, usually like that kind of bonding experience will be at the end of Act two I think for us that bonding experience is going to be an act three yep. Michael Worth: But also the same spot though yeah the bonding experience and then. Avish Parashar: we'll we'll kind of act out the bonding experience as our act three right. Michael Worth: And and i'm thinking this idea in the movie we would see multiple games with them getting better because of our shorter form, it might be they bond and clean up some stuff and then act for is just the game. Avish Parashar: yeah I think I for me like just the game may be like that day, you know the pre game, the game, the motivational speech, maybe the real meat of it, but some of the motivational speeches got to be in their. Michael Worth: own APP for yeah well, we can even send it out for you, they get it together, and you know, maybe start like you know growing as a team and then an APP for can literally say it's been four weeks they've won the last four games, you know kind of thing. Michael Worth: we're allowed to do that, because everyone knows us the trope. And that's exactly. Avish Parashar: Right and so, then for this type of movie. Avish Parashar: For our show we usually have either a prologue or a trailer we don't have to, but we usually do you feeling yeah. Michael Worth: I don't know that the prologue. Avish Parashar: I don't think a prologue makes any sense. Michael Worth: yeah I don't know the prologue could set up the reason the coach has to go to find the dude um I don't know the trailer is like. Michael Worth: We know what this is about this is your friend has you know. Avish Parashar: We can just jump right into we don't necessarily either. Avish Parashar: yeah we play with our format we're experimenting. Avish Parashar: Again, like you said straightforward act one why you know coaches, the team he's got a good team, we do auditions and we meet the main character at to their bad play some games. Avish Parashar: And they lose in a personal attention yep yep act three the bonding experience the other goes wrong, how they bond, and then they get it together and then act for final game perfect. Avish Parashar: Alright, so we don't even need our whole time they're. Michael Worth: Good they're good at this.
In a World…where criminals lurk and some treasure lays hidden…a group of misfits embark on a quest to save their town, save their families, and save the day! If you like the Goonies (and Improv Comedy) then you will love the adventures of Giggles, Toothpick Girl, Digital Nerd, and Muscles McGee! This episode features the improv games Countdown,, Superheroes, Blind Line, Ding, Cutting Room About This Episode In this episode, we pay homage to those crazy kids adventure movies where the children get into some seriously dangerous situations but manage to make it fun and to come out winning. We both love the Goonies and this episode is a loving tribute (we think…) to that movie. Links The Goonies on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goonies The Goonies Virtual Live Script Read with Original Cast: https://youtu.be/UDQUE_B1Q24 Time Codes Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 04:19 Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 09:43 Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 15:59 Start of show: 22:46 Improv Game - Countdown: 24:26 Improv Game - Superheroes: 28:54 Improv Game - Blind Line: 35:05 Improv Game - Ding: 43:05 Improv Game - Cutting Room: 49:13 End of show, into announcements:1:04:32 More Information About the Show, Mike, and Avish Subscribe to the podcast: http://AvishAndMike.com/Subscribe/ Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: Discussing the genre tropes all right now we're gonna spend five minutes talking about the tropes cliches and commonalities of the genre of this type of movie so i've got my timer and we're going to spend five minutes, starting now all right Mike. Avish Parashar: Why don't you kick us off when you think of this kind of movie kids versus adults. Avish Parashar: What are things that jump to your mind. Mike Worth: Well, the first thing is there's actually two things so one is i'm going to jump in no particular add order the criminal or the bad guys in this tend to be. Mike Worth: mildly competent but not so confident that they can't get out smarter by the kids and the two examples i'm thinking of is the is the fraternity brothers from home. Mike Worth: duties and also Joe pisco and Daniel stern from home alone they're competent. Mike Worth: Because the passion passion. Avish Parashar: I mean different movie. Mike Worth: But it's still a great movie still a great movie. Mike Worth: Like they're constantly figure out that you know these guys are leaving and they're and they're working theory things where the finale brothers kind of figure out what the treasure is, but they can get smarter about the kids so that's kind of an important things. Avish Parashar: I would say I narrow that down and say they are like. Avish Parashar: they're competent strategists there in company tacticians. Mike Worth: they're like. Avish Parashar: They have a good plan and ready to go, but like when it comes to like dealing with the obstacles of the children they're they're idiots and. Avish Parashar: Almost to a comical standpoint right the way they fail is. Avish Parashar: Is comical. Avish Parashar: yeah that's like they fail in a way that no real criminal would fail when it comes to. Avish Parashar: The kid. Avish Parashar: plan is like Oh, we got a good plan we. Avish Parashar: sneak in this. Mike Worth: Yes, and that that idea of comedy fail is really huge if you think about all of the of the ways that i'm using the goodies in the home alone. Mike Worth: bad guys, the way it feels almost like pratfall almost buster keaton right they have those kind of have really silly fun physical fails or or you know they almost a while it can be looked at ah they'll fall, you know. Avish Parashar: yeah I was about to say there's like slapstick yeah one point at home alone, I believe the kid rigs a blowtorch to burn off patches hair. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah he just goes when, in reality, he get like. 30 birds yeah. Mike Worth: I did, did you see some some graphics artist at La who's like i'm going to take all the seeds from have a lower macaulay culkin wants to the villains, but add real blood splatter. Mike Worth: it's the first time, you see, when the to paint cans come down and they hit the guy. Mike Worth: You see teeth fly out digital and all this blood explodes and they hit the ground this isn't funny anymore, this is not funny at all anyway. Avish Parashar: Exactly. Mike Worth: So there has to be like decimal point is, it has to be cartoony because, which obviously That means we can't be putting out our huge visual effects budget for this podcast. Avish Parashar: yeah sorry guys next year just going to use a corn syrup yeah. Mike Worth: About kids what's the truth of the kid or the kids up. Avish Parashar: Well, I would say, maybe less about the kids but the kids situation is that they're. Avish Parashar: on their own, they get isolated from adults, either because they're the goonies who decided they needed us on their own now they're away. Avish Parashar: from home alone his parents have them, so the kids are isolated they can't go to kit adult for help, or even even in like the goonies when trunk tries to call the COPs like they don't believe them. Avish Parashar: So right kids are on their own ah, you know they're usually they're pretty clever yep um they're clever they are not, they have no physical attributes it's not like Oh, the kid happens to be like an eight year old. and Mike Worth: Electric ninja whatever. Avish Parashar: way not like the sidekicks ninja. Avish Parashar: or like a gymnast if you have any like tangible. Avish Parashar: it's just a normal kid yeah but he's like clever. Avish Parashar: there's some level of wise accessory either one of the kids are the main kid is a wise ass. Mike Worth: yeah yeah um now that the the other trope is they're both after the same thing either that look in this case actually both after the House. Avish Parashar: You know kind of thing he's pretty. Mike Worth: Good there or they're both after one I will ease up. Mike Worth: yeah the kind of it as. Avish Parashar: PG PG. Avish Parashar: PG 13 on. Avish Parashar: The yeah the bad guys want something and the kid, for whatever reason, the kid or kids or an obstacle to it like. Avish Parashar: Right. Avish Parashar: Good well they went off the House the kids in the House, they want to feel the jewels that kids want to get the jewels first. Mike Worth: there's a healthy element of MacGyver ISM uh you know, even in the goonies that when the kids are kind of getting through there they're being clever and kind of solving puzzles because the healthy omit of drivers and like are solving problems creatively. Mike Worth: And what's the final thing um. Avish Parashar: And there is. Avish Parashar: You know they're cut off from adults but there's one misanthropic ally. Mike Worth: dwight. Mike Worth: I the shovel. Mike Worth: or oh man with a shovel the slot or whatever yeah yeah yeah. Avish Parashar: yeah yeah. Mike Worth: For men uh yeah I think that's. Avish Parashar: Like misunderstood everyone thinks is a bad guy but turns out to be a good guy and helps to keep it in yet. Mike Worth: Exactly uh I think that's pretty much hit man, this is a pretty bread and butter basic film yeah. Avish Parashar: yeah as long as it comes in the obstacles and the. Mike Worth: And the tone, the tone is action comedy that it's a very light non fearful thing and like you said, the obstacles are creative and interesting and continually into the bad guys well either continue to kind of forge forward. Avish Parashar: Alright, well, that brings us that's right at the end about here the duck. Mike Worth: yeah we're on point. Avish Parashar: Fantastic alright, so that now brings us to. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: segment two creating the outline, we are now going to spend five minutes, creating a high level outline for this movie. Avish Parashar: We use a four X structure we're going to go through the four X is basically a three act structure, but we split Act two into two parts, more reactive part of more proactive because that's. Avish Parashar: Good screenwriting and it's easier for our break down, and this is our outline, we will roughly follow it, but this is kind of a starting point it's improv comedy so we may veer very much from what we say we're going to do a check yes alright so starting now. Mike Worth: Okay, so actually it's pretty easy it's we want to establish the kids and we can establish their parents and you know we can't have one kid or we're thinking. Avish Parashar: I kind of need to establish why the adults aren't there. Mike Worth: Right when that happens at the end of act one is is is that the kids are kind of cut off not dangerous way look at the adults are not there, the kids end up in a park. Avish Parashar: So you know we don't need. Avish Parashar: We don't need to do a lot with the parents, but we need to kind of meet them are the adults yep and then set up their reason for not being. Mike Worth: Exactly, we also need to be the kids and and then we need to also establish the identities of the villains, and I think at the end of act one is when the macguffin shows up. Avish Parashar: The macguffin as in the thing they're all after. Avish Parashar: yeah yeah it depends yet whether it's a quest one or a home invasion one. Mike Worth: I think this is still a macguffin it's like Oh, you have to protect the House why because though all right. Avish Parashar: I would say we kind of launched into the. Avish Parashar: We launch into the adventure like whether it's bad guys wanting to come in, are the good guys going after the macguffin right right at one ends. Mike Worth: Okay, so now, would you add to that for us, we kind of funky because a act to its trials tests and trials tests and tribulations so that's going to be where a. Mike Worth: Problems emerged for the kids to have to solve the problems can either be from the quest like the environment or they can be actively from the villains trying to. Avish Parashar: You know what's interesting, especially because we really watch the goonies last year for our at Facebook live before we switch over to this podcast. Avish Parashar: They don't actually go after the jewels until like what we would call at three right there's a lot in the goodies a long time before they actually like enter the came to go try to find the jewels there's like. Avish Parashar: They go they find the fatality thing so they're doing so, but again it's reactive and act two is where they're kind of learning. Avish Parashar: So, and in home alone, like you, don't get too patchy and Daniel stern invading the House till. Avish Parashar: The second half of the movie the first half. Mike Worth: that's true. Avish Parashar: he's like trying to survive on his own and they're like scoping out the House, so I think this is where we're kind of so I said act one ends with them kind of launching into, but I think act ones precipitating event at the end is more like the kid being isolated. Mike Worth: yeah. Avish Parashar: If the introduction of the big trouble in home alone at home alone and goonies it's like oh we're gonna lose our House so let's go. Mike Worth: yeah yeah and that it's the crossing the threshold because that's when they're put into this new world but they're still kind of not proactive in this new world. Avish Parashar: yeah so i'd say. Avish Parashar: choose the one that ends with the. Avish Parashar: The adventure really starting like. Mike Worth: I think that's I think that's fair yeah I think. Avish Parashar: What else happens in an actor is we're learning the kid is kind of the villains, are the kids learning about the villains, and the villains learning about the kid I think. Mike Worth: And the kids learn the rules of the new world that he's in in this case it's home alone, so this is how I survive as a as an eight year old, and you know, in the goonies it's like well now we're in this kind of cave and underneath and things like that. Avish Parashar: yeah so learn about each other, they learn about the thing they want right yep. Sorry. Mike Worth: we're gonna we ever do the part one, a big oh that dead pirate Mr penis. Avish Parashar: yeah. Mike Worth: Just just say. Mike Worth: i'm already thinking of these things. Avish Parashar: Are dogs long. slog so for. Mike Worth: Now man do. Avish Parashar: You, the explicit tag. Avish Parashar: To not a lot proactively happened is we, I could, but like it's just a lot of like learning figuring out maybe some close calls. Mike Worth: yeah um. Avish Parashar: And then, at the end of activity again that crossing the next threshold right he's like all right well. Avish Parashar: Like yes or no, do we go after this or not, and so that makes X three, and this is where you get really into the the trials and tribulations the questing. Mike Worth: yeah yeah this this starts feeling indiana Jones kind of stuff right there's like traps and there's and there's you know. Avish Parashar: and listening is when you get into more direct conflict with the villains like yes, the fatalities entering the cave after them, you know. Mike Worth: patchy and stern trying to break in and him kind of fortifying defenses through. Avish Parashar: route losses, I saw home alone and that may not even happen till the very end, but I forget, but I don't have as a whole, half of the movie or but. Avish Parashar: Our purposes we're gonna see a lot of conflict. Mike Worth: We there's a lot of outsmarting with the time where he gets all those mannequins and he sits them all up to like move around, so it looks like there's a house party so he's always defeating them but it's like. Avish Parashar: it's a good way of describing it, so I think it's not we're actually not it's also more indirect conflict neck three like like even with the fatalities they're not attacking the kids are chasing them they're causing trouble for them, but. Mike Worth: yeah. Avish Parashar: it's not until the very end, where they all meet on the boat. Avish Parashar: Writing actor is in direct conflict and that brings us to act for which is that for. Mike Worth: US truly the moto moto like face to face the final. Avish Parashar: The final square off paint cans of blow torches the. Mike Worth: Are the iron. Mike Worth: iron door to like give you like the tote you know. Avish Parashar: In today in today's society Kevin mcallister would be like sued and arrested for. Avish Parashar: assault on those two guys. Avish Parashar: Out there like way beyond. Mike Worth: Defense you're kind of a sociopath. Avish Parashar: alright. Mike Worth: Alright, we got something here. Avish Parashar: And then obviously wraps up with the parents finally returning. Avish Parashar: or they. Mike Worth: finally returned they finally find the treasure of logs long silver. Avish Parashar: man. Avish Parashar: We may have to make. Avish Parashar: We have not done a porn movie as people see that. Mike Worth: it's such a good name for the pirate. Avish Parashar: Oh, my God. Mike Worth: will flow, the working title. Avish Parashar: Alright, so.
In a World...where most people live there lives unaware of the forces at work around them, one man will find himself with no memory of who he is or was. Moving on with his life, he finds peace, until his old life desperately seeks to drag him back for his own nefarious purposes. This episode contains the improv games Gibberish Switch, Old Job New Job, Pardon, Countdown, and Cutting Room. Show Notes: About This Episode In this episode, we pay homage to the genre of “Amnesia Thrillers.” You know the movies, where a hero wakes up with no memory of their previous life, and the slowly discover that they used to be a very dangerous person involved in very dangerous things. Some movies in this genre are The Bourne Identity, The Long Kiss Goodnight, and the TV show Absentia (which Avish keeps referring to as “Amnesia” - whoops!). We make some changes on the fly to our improv game list and end up having a lot of fun being commentators at the world cup as player after player is taken out... Links The Bourne Identity on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bourne_Identity_(2002_film): The Long Kiss Goodnight on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Long_Kiss_Goodnight Absentia on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absentia_(TV_series) Time Codes Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 04:53 Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 10:53 Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 17:27 Start of show: 24:35 Improv Game - Gibberish Switch: 26:00 Improv Game - Old Job, New Job: 28:57 Improv Game - Pardon: 40:41 Improv Game - Countdown: 51:27 Improv Game - Cutting Room: 56:11 End of show, into announcements: 1:09:53 More Information About the Show, Mike, and Avish Subscribe to the podcast: Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: Without further ado, then we will begin with segment one. Avish Parashar: Right now we're going to spend five minutes discussing the tropes cliches commonalities of this genre so i'm going to set my little timer i'm still here on the duck I know at some point, I said I switched from the duck but I did not yet. Michael Worth: I like the duck the duck. Avish Parashar: Nothing. Avish Parashar: You know what some variety, though. Avish Parashar: All right, five minutes starts now all right, you want to kick us off when you think of the tropes of this type of. Michael Worth: email or what do you think so it's actually a fairly small cast you've got the main character, which is of course the amnesiac um. Michael Worth: The main character, has a series of skills that are highly specialized and very uncommon. Michael Worth: This is kind of the triple that what the skills will be will probably be part of the funny and it's at this particular one um there's usually the main character is there there's a second secondary characters are as follows. Michael Worth: The person or small group of people that rescue and slash nurse this person back to health, so it could be like a family could be you know, like just a person. Avish Parashar: off at a love interest. Michael Worth: yeah there's a love interest that emerges somewhere in there, like if it's a family, maybe, like the eldest daughter falls in love with him or you know this assuming it's a guy because it could be a girl, but whatever i'm. Michael Worth: The major secondary character is the villain that wants this guy back he either wants this guy back or dead yeah i'm. A pursuer. Avish Parashar: For what the pursuer like there's a person trying to get me or whatever is they're trying to get the the main character right. Michael Worth: And the pursuer will oftentimes have access to a couple things one is still have access to like good surveillance technology and like kind of like assets, you know, like he can he can. Michael Worth: spy on the guy or he can you know, like use like you know drones to like figure out where he is and then he also has access to like you know just warm bodies to throw the hero right he's got like. Avish Parashar: yeah and I would say this kind of movie though you get the almost the triangle so sometimes you get like. Avish Parashar: The villain villain but then you also may have like the government or authorities who are trying to recapture slash track this person down or like i'm born. Avish Parashar: The government is trained born, they thought he went road they're trying to get him back with them they're also like bad guy so that could be like. Avish Parashar: i've got that also bad guys but, like the others a combination, or maybe within the authorities there's like the rogue faction that wants in debt versus the other people that just want to save him so there's a lot of times as like a triangle is like two groups of bad guys. Michael Worth: Are antagonist exactly, and you know I think honestly there's not too many tropes right there is a the other trope is well let's talk a little bit about how the skills are revealed. Avish Parashar: And yeah. Michael Worth: What the skills are because that's kind of a very common thing I mean you can just you just say, maybe, just as easy as they're always when their emotions are always access assassins are always exercise. Avish Parashar: yeah if we're going with the thriller genre that the skills yeah always like violent. Avish Parashar: You know, and so one of the trope says they get forced into a situation where they have to use their skills and all of a sudden, they reflexively like almost kill somebody. Avish Parashar: yeah is one drove I think I don't know if it always happens, but a lot of times like there's there's like bread crumbs in mystery so like. Avish Parashar: They come across something that looks familiar or someone recognizes them on the street and they're like why I don't know who you are so there's like these weird like little little hints at who they are yeah. Michael Worth: And it almost always culminates in. Michael Worth: The hero, the here's the question does the hero end up at the end of the movie remembering who he or she is to the memories come back or do they kind of. Michael Worth: Because, at the end if they do at the end they take the fight to the boss, is part of the trope and they kind of free themselves in a good movie unless you try to build a sequel at the end, the hero has kind of freed himself from whatever. Michael Worth: marionette strings are hanging from either he eliminates the organization that wants to dead or he convinces the organization that wants to backlit he's dead. Michael Worth: The question is, does he do it, while remembering, who is old self is or is it almost like he's a new man with old skills new skills, this new way, because I think you can go both ways with. Avish Parashar: I think you can go I think in the born in the board book he doesn't really remember who he is. Avish Parashar: or your another good SCI fi example of this is total recall is like. Michael Worth: Yes. Avish Parashar: You scored like I mean that's he's because he went in the recall machine but same thing he's like discovering all this stuff, so I think I think I go either way but yeah I agree that whether or not he gets full access or not. Avish Parashar: He remembers enough and then kind of makes that choice to completely defeat the people who were trying to stop him recapture him kill him whatever yeah. Michael Worth: Exactly and. Avish Parashar: Usually some bigger plot as well, like they're after him or her, because they know something or they have like like the access codes to something like there's something about them that they have, or they know or like you know before they got amnesia they hit the the. Avish Parashar: Nuclear launch key or something and like yeah. Avish Parashar: The try to get them back for that exactly. Michael Worth: And that's the other part of the tropes, and this is a good thing, the villains are competent, the villains, are in a true thriller they're competent now, of course, we can Fuck with it because it's our. Avish Parashar: it's our podcast it's the car, it could be. Michael Worth: grossly but in general uh you know jace the main character has to play their a game to outsmart defeat the villains, but the villains are defeated but they're not like definitely empire. Avish Parashar: yeah alright so that's our town had one other thing to add is that. Avish Parashar: I think, often what happens is that the. Avish Parashar: When the main character learns about who they were they were not a good person it's almost always like they did bad things. Avish Parashar: Now they're like their new lease on life and I realized that they're like living a good life and being a good person, but before turns out, they were an assassin or a villain or you know. Michael Worth: something bad, yes, yes, exactly good job good. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: Fantastic which brings us to segment to. Avish Parashar: Right now we are going to spend five minutes and it creates a high level outline based on the tropes we just. Avish Parashar: went through we're going to use a four act structure to tell our story it's like set up reaction proactive conclusion and just quick note. Avish Parashar: we're not this is improv comedy So this is the outline we're going to start with, we may veer from it significantly but we're going to come up with a rough outline, so I minutes now cool. Michael Worth: I think she'll prologue not a trailer. Avish Parashar: Okay, so for those listening, for the first time we usually start with either a prologue or a trailer I agree, I think prologue would be good for this. Avish Parashar: Car so then what's going to happen in the prologue is. Avish Parashar: We may see a glimpse of this person in their life in their like what what leads them to having amnesia is often what happens like we see them almost get shot or get in the car accident or we could see like the villains, and their big picture plot type thing. Michael Worth: yeah yeah i'm doing one of those two things we'll figure that out. Avish Parashar: Okay cool so. Act one. Avish Parashar: So here we meet the hero kind of in their life. Avish Parashar: In their quote unquote ordinary life right. Michael Worth: Now, do we want or what will sometimes happen is, we will be introduced to the hero in act one by having them be rescued. Michael Worth: meaning they washed up on shore and his family takes them in right or like the family's driving through the woods pump a campsite they're like oh my God there's this body in this guy's like all scratched and maybe he's got some some nice food. Michael Worth: yeah so. Avish Parashar: I feel most are like that long kiss goodnight was not but bourne identity is amnesia is, I feel a lot of them do start with the discovery of the person. Avish Parashar: yeah yeah. Avish Parashar: Or that could be the prologue so yeah yeah so. Michael Worth: One of the ordinary ordinary life. Avish Parashar: or alive kind of see them, but I think we, I think we need to meet the villains here right like we have to see. Avish Parashar: Maybe I would say at the end of the actors, were the main antagonist discover where they were and what this person is yes. Michael Worth: Oh, by the way, do you know you don't have a great example of one that does what you're talking about where we start by beating the ordinary life history of violence with viggo Mortensen. Avish Parashar: There yeah. Michael Worth: that's another lesson classic one yeah cuz he starts off he literally is like a Deli owner owner owner. Avish Parashar: yeah I haven't seen a long time yeah remember it started like you didn't know. Avish Parashar: They kind of set it up, so you think these people are incorrectly after him and then you're like oh no there yeah yeah he's. Michael Worth: yeah that's really good that's really good viggo Mortensen could do no wrong he's amazing. Avish Parashar: Well yeah aragorn the bomb. Avish Parashar: I think, also maybe the hints we talked about like. Avish Parashar: An act one like the purse something happens and maybe the person uses their skills. Avish Parashar: Which is often the thing that tips off the bad guys like there's a news report about this person that like you know rescued a kid from a burning building and then they're like oh wait that's sorry so and so yeah. Avish Parashar: I think they use their expert skills somehow in this act one. Michael Worth: So the end of act one, the main antagonist shows up and there's that initial encounter it's either a direct face to face encounter or to them kind of discovering and maybe learn again doing surveillance or something like that. Avish Parashar: yeah yeah they get kind of. Avish Parashar: put on the case yeah then brings back to, so I think Act two is when the this is kind of the main characters quest to discover who and what they were they start like researching a little bit and like trying to learn what they were before their amnesia yeah. Michael Worth: yeah totally do that okay cool. Avish Parashar: um but they're very unclear very foggy for them like they're not like Oh, I must be to govern operative they're like wait a minute like here's a key to a safety deposit box, let me go see what's in there and oh my God it's like God what the hell is that now, at this point. Michael Worth: The years in reactive mode one of two things happen. Michael Worth: Either either the bad guy organization tries to kill him for the first time, because he can't be left alive right, so the first attempt that is life happens. Michael Worth: Or the first pressure attempt to get them to do work for them where they're like you know he comes like he comes back in like two of the members of the family are being held hostage or something and it's like hey listen you got to tell us where. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah right so yeah they do like a hostage and they're like oh you got to go use your expert skills that you don't remember to go do this. i'm. Avish Parashar: The course to do something clients yeah either work for them, or you know hey you know you have our diamonds bring to us and we'll let your family go or something like that. Michael Worth: yeah that kind of stuff you know so there's there's definitely an attack on the hero either to attack with the hospital force compliance or to tack on his life. Avish Parashar: yeah and then at the end of Act two is like I think they they learned some critical piece of information about who they were. Avish Parashar: Like they may not remember it but they learn like that they were a government operatives they were an assassin, or they were you know slip and slide or whatever they learned yeah exactly no APP three. Michael Worth: it's going to kind of be one or two things it depends on what i'm actually liking, the idea of of the the bad guys kind of holding people hostage to comply him to like you know. Michael Worth: finished whatever mission, he or he so at three is him proactively solving the conditions that created the hostages, meaning if the hostages were there, because you had to. Michael Worth: get this diamond that you had hidden somewhere he goes back and he finds the time and he overcomes trials and traps to get it right so. Michael Worth: Yes, at three is him removing the barriers to remove the hostage situation. Avish Parashar: Right and he's re acquiring we learning remembering those skills as he's going through this process right. Michael Worth: And then, if know how obvious you want to be, since you went up and reading and prefer storytellers, the answer is going to be very obvious. Michael Worth: For his he. Michael Worth: Rescue he knows he's going to get portrayed so he basically takes it to the villains breaks the back of the villain organization or no kills the main villain rescues the hostages and disappears kind of thing. Avish Parashar: yeah yeah oh I gotta say our plot yeah. Michael Worth: So at four is takes down shadow org. Michael Worth: rescues hostages. Avish Parashar: And then, and then disappeared disappears who's on with their life or whatever. Michael Worth: we're gonna have an epilogue we've never had an epilogue before. Avish Parashar: You have an epilogue. Michael Worth: gonna disappear disappears there we go. Avish Parashar: Alright, so that brings us I think that's a pretty good outline so that brings us to the end of that.
In a World...where some people need to push just a little farther, higher, and faster to live life on the edge...one man will get drawn into a world few ever experience. Torn between duty, justice, love, and the need for the adrenaline rush only a mega slip ‘n slide can bring, Detective Jensen will find himself...Climbing Intensely Down… This show features the improv games Scenes Without the Letter, Gibberish Switch, Questions Switch, and Cutting Room. Plus some mad cap slip ‘n sliding - and otters!! About this Episode In this episode, we pay homage to adrenaline fueled, undercover police, “got a little too close,” action movies like Point Break, The Fast and the Furious, Terminal velocity, and more! We play some fun improv games and somehow the “adrenaline activity” ends up being extreme slip ‘n sliding! Oh, and we completely mix-up the Charlie Sheen skydiving movie (Terminal Velocity) and the Wesley Snipes skydiving movie (Drop Zone). Whoops! Links Point Break on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Break The Fast and Furious on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fast_and_the_Furious_(2001_film) Terminal Velocity on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_Velocity_(film) Drop Zone on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_Zone_(film) Time Codes Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 04:56 Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 11:34 Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 16:26 Start of show: 23:20 Improv Game - Scenes Without the Letter: 25:40 Improv Game - Gibberish Switch: 30:24 Improv Game - Questions Switch: 38:54 Improv Game - Cutting Room: 52:15 End of show, into announcements: 1:06:38 More Information About the Show, Mike, and Avish Subscribe to the podcast: http://avishandmike.com/subscribe/ Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: This brings us to segment one. Avish Parashar: All right now we're gonna spend five minutes discussing the tropes commonalities and cliches of this genre i'm going to set my little duck timer here for five minutes hello, the duck timer and away we go all right Mike why don't you kick us off, especially since it's fresh. Michael Worth: In your mind why don't know. Michael Worth: As Bourbon fresh that can be um so the trump's of this particular genre is it's always a young, law enforcement officer in point break it was obviously. Michael Worth: FBI and for terminal velocity I think it was FBI as well anyways The point is, there is a vexing series of crimes that happened that have some sort of. Michael Worth: cool hiccup to them like either they are the criminals either dress funny or they break in and an interesting way and nobody can figure them out there, like super super professional and. Michael Worth: one cup kind of notices something about them, that makes him think that they're not your typical criminals so that's kind of the the first trip is there's like some sort of. Michael Worth: reveal like I think in terminal velocity like left behind, like some polymer and the polymer is that kind of stuff you'd use in a parachute or something like that you don't mean like. Avish Parashar: yeah point break. Avish Parashar: Just based on the schedule of the break ins are like we think these guys are running backs to fund their surfing habits. Michael Worth: Right exactly and then one of them had a when they move the camera they have like a clear. Michael Worth: surfing line like when they when they move the cameras. Avish Parashar: yeah. Michael Worth: So for 10 so that's the the big trope now what that means is that basically um the young COP has to go undercover into this adrenaline filled sport that these robbers are kind of engaged in. Avish Parashar: yeah and he usually like he just gets in with one crew and then by chance that crew happens to be the criminals, but he doesn't know at first he just like trying to get into that world, so it looks up some people. Avish Parashar: And then they think like oh this other gang is probably it, but then turns out that's not it like an employee goes red hot chili peppers wherever it. Is. Avish Parashar: it's. Avish Parashar: A chili peppers right, I was like yeah this is Anthony kiedis and flee I don't know about the other two. Michael Worth: yeah. Avish Parashar: that's awesome so, then you get you get the sequences where he has to like prove his worth. Avish Parashar: and learn kind of the. Avish Parashar: drag racing the surfing skydiving whatever right. Michael Worth: Right now, in point break and I think, also in terminal velocity the coach is usually the love interest. Avish Parashar: I was like helping him, does he was like two people right there's like a mentor figure like a vin diesel and Patrick swayze. Avish Parashar: yeah who's kind of mentoring to to be, but then yeah there's like someone who you're really green, let me teach you and that's like a love interest but, like a love interest the mentors like the head of the bad guys. Michael Worth: yeah exactly so um now here's the question that I have for this kind of trope does the. Michael Worth: Good guy witness a crime or is he already or does he become one of the criminals first look i'm trying to remember, if, like like. Avish Parashar: hey go either way and that'll probably come out but yeah there's usually like a mid movie crime. Avish Parashar: yeah that he's he's using involved in right maybe accidentally he doesn't want to be, but protect his cover or you know I think like. Avish Parashar: You know the love interest. Michael Worth: yeah I think. Michael Worth: yep yep i'm like yeah that's what happens is you kind of perfectly gets involved he doesn't want to, but to keep his cover yes to kind of join up with it right. Avish Parashar: yeah and there's always like the whole part I the whole point of this is that, even though he's undercover he starts to get drawn both the the activity, and especially to like the mentor like he really. Avish Parashar: feels a connection there and see them as a friend like almost like families these very conflicted about like doing his job at stopping them versus like hey this has become my friend and buddy. Michael Worth: I was gonna say that that's a big critical part is is he starts to kind of when he dances with monsters, and he becomes the master starts to look like you know, family and friends so exactly. Michael Worth: um and then the final act now uh I didn't finish point break last second I fell asleep, but does the bad guy bad the shadow mentor or the bad guys. Michael Worth: up the ante and F3 forcing the good guy to make a decision like does the Gary busey character get killed or something like that, because sometimes that happens where they the the team ratchets up to some level unacceptable crime. Avish Parashar: And the good guys like Well, no, I think there's a couple ways to go, I think. Avish Parashar: I think either yeah they ratchet up the crime, and I think that kind of happens in point break I forget exactly what the shoots bore there's like a third. Avish Parashar: group or something, and so, like the bad guys that the heroes close to. Avish Parashar: Still, a criminal but it's sort of redemptive like I think in both important break like kiana let's. Avish Parashar: Patrick swayze surf away I think yeah I think I forget we kind of hang out at the end, but like vin diesel I think gets away so there's like that the bad guys get stopped, but I think the main mentor guy kind of gets away or the hero, let them get away. Michael Worth: yeah yeah exactly and then I think um I think the people that we want to play i'll play PG were like the criminals do end up getting arrested. Avish Parashar: not killed listed like maybe the main guy gets like. Avish Parashar: The other thing I think that's critical to this genre is a. Avish Parashar: fun thing. Michael Worth: To do it's. Avish Parashar: it's our crack know is part of it is like pulling behind the curtain, so you really learn about the world of drag racing or skydiving or surfing so there's some minutiae in there about the culture and. Avish Parashar: The activity and. Avish Parashar: To an outside observer it's almost ridiculous right like I live my life quarter mile of a time and. Avish Parashar: You know the the obsession they have with surfing like so it's all it's kind of over the top there's like a. Avish Parashar: Like they're not actually playing it for laughs, but I think part of the appeal of like a point break this many years later, is it's sort of ridiculous. Michael Worth: It really is over the top espn ridiculous the over the top soundtrack is also a ton of fun like. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah. Michael Worth: Oh God it's great man it's like you know funny enough, you know weird way top gun has some elements of this point break because of the adrenaline junkie kind of thing more of. Avish Parashar: It I just don't have the undercover bit, but yeah the adrenaline junkie the whole that whole thing is there and don't worry, we are on episode coming. Michael Worth: Oh baby I. Avish Parashar: went to the other depending when this drops maybe the top episode already came I don't. Michael Worth: Whatever so. Michael Worth: This is. Michael Worth: This is not citizen kane or you know touch of evil you. Avish Parashar: Know it's. Avish Parashar: it's barely Harry and the hendersons. Michael Worth: speed of which. Michael Worth: An awful thing improvising a movie the style of chinatown oh God oh. God. Michael Worth: alright. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: So that brings us to segment two. Avish Parashar: Alright, so now we're gonna spend five minutes hashing out a high level outline number one we use a four act structure similar three x we just split the log act three into two parts and. Avish Parashar: This is the outline we're going to roughly follow but improv being what it is we may abandon it here on. Michael Worth: to it, who knows exactly it's. Michael Worth: Our rights. Avish Parashar: Alright, so now the duck timer for five minutes. Michael Worth: Yes. Avish Parashar: And away we go. Avish Parashar: Alright, so we often start, we always start with either prologue or trailer yep. Michael Worth: The prologue could be a them doing their first crime right that could be like kind of like. Avish Parashar: We don't actually meet the hero, we just see the crime. Avish Parashar: I think that's good. Michael Worth: To prologue yeah. Avish Parashar: prologue short prologue with the crime yep. Avish Parashar: Just one we got to meet our hero main character yep. Avish Parashar: We got it he's got to learn about the crime and then that oh it's it's probably you know these type of people yep. Michael Worth: So, so in act one he'll probably end up getting paired with a senior guy that's where he discovers because he's a new he's a new law enforcement so pair with the senior guy who's been tracking the crimes and then figures out. Michael Worth: Oh it's probably like you said this particular adrenaline junkie team right. Avish Parashar: And then he's got a I think act one kind of ends with him. Avish Parashar: meeting and getting in with the team, so we can meet them and then maybe as a past whatever little like initiation type test like Oh, you know show us, you can search for shows this you know kind of yeah they kind of sort of passively accept him into the group. Michael Worth: yeah exactly yeah yeah, but at this point he they none of them knows anything about anybody else but they don't know he doesn't know that there, possibly the criminals, they don't know that he's an FBI agent or. Avish Parashar: yeah he just trying to meet some you know surfers and. Avish Parashar: and get it with them, so he does yep then an act to I think this is where maybe you get like the red herring like the red hot chili peppers thing. Avish Parashar: where he thinks he knows who it is and he's sort of investigates and he's also learning more about the craft of this activity and getting more ingratiated with the group. Michael Worth: yeah yeah I agree a hill also make enemies and allies within the group there's going to be one guy that doesn't like him. Avish Parashar: Oh there's always want to do it, it doesn't trust them or like i'm yep. Michael Worth: yep and. Avish Parashar: oftentimes it's like the acts of the. Avish Parashar: romance. Michael Worth: romance interest yes and it's like the second in command usually right it's almost it yeah second in command right yeah lieutenant so that's going to be the tests allies and enemies portion right. Avish Parashar: cold I think act to will end right around with him discovering that his group is the. Avish Parashar: bad guys yep yep exactly. Michael Worth: So at three is going to be him drawn into the committing of the crimes while at the same time trying to get enough evidence or find a way to bring them to justice so he's he's going deeper into the rabbit hole right. Avish Parashar: yeah I think also didn't happen is maybe somewhere in act three enact at the end of Act two he discovered that this is the gang but maybe he doesn't have enough evidence right, but then in act three the gang discovers that he's an undercover COP. Michael Worth: And now there's no yeah yep. Avish Parashar: they're going to force him into their plan otherwise they're gonna expose him kill him kill the love interest whatever mm hmm yep that's it that's. Michael Worth: All these are all correct everything you say is correct, so act for is the final crime final heist or whatever it's going to be a with the hero trying to you know escape the snarl that they've been trapped in for the crime and bring everyone to justice. Avish Parashar: yeah I feel like act, I mean there's two ways of going either act for can be him, no longer part of the group and trying to stop their crime or at for can be him part of them kind of. Avish Parashar: times I feel like I can point break I feel like. Avish Parashar: Act for was like a separate thing I don't I never saw the end in a long time so. Michael Worth: I must be basically be the final crime, however, that plays out there can be a file crime yep. Avish Parashar: And he's also to an extent I think he's got to deal with his conflict of saving his reputation as a cop stopping the crime but also dealing with his own emotions about the appeal of this adrenaline activity in groups. Michael Worth: So much character nuance in this kind of film I, who would have thunk it. Avish Parashar: I know. Avish Parashar: Like Hamlet baby dimensions. Michael Worth: Oh, my God dimensions baby, let me tell you this this depth depth. Avish Parashar: I mean it's pretty straightforward there's got to be, and it does have a little bit of nuance between character interaction and kind of you know, some of the, how do you get out of the situation, but overall it's pretty straightforward yeah. Avish Parashar: This is not rocket law enforcement guy. Avish Parashar: got to go into the group gets in with the things there okay discovers they're bad they discover scenes a cop, then big finish yep. Michael Worth: Clarity and high jinks ensue all right good we're ahead of ahead of the duck let's do it.
In a World…where some people will kill for no reason…one group of friends will find themselves in the middle of a mad killer's lust for death. Who will survive, who will die, who's the killer, and who will….gargle?? Listen to find out. This episode features the improv games Countdown, Superheroes, Last Letter, First Letter, Alibis, and Cutting Room. About This Episode In this episode, we pay homage to those 90's style hip slasher movies, specifically Scream. Mike and Avish both love Scream (and Avish loves all these types of movies) and they actually saw the original together way way back when. This episode is a of fun and a pretty direct homage/parody to Scream. Wes Craven would be proud…we think…if he liked improv comedy… Links Scream on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scream_(1996_film) Time Codes Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 04:54 Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 15:48 Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 23:00 Start of show: 30:30 Improv Game - Countdown: 33:09 Improv Game - Superheroes: 36:15 Improv Game - Last Letter, First Letter: 45:20 Improv Game - Alibis: 53:00 Improv Game - Cutting Room: 1:00:20 End of show, into announcements: 1:20:13 More Information About the Show, Mike, and Avish Subscribe to the podcast: http://AvishAndMike.com/Subscribe/ Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: Alright, so now we're going to spend a few minutes talking about the tropes and whatnot but we're kind of if you listen this podcast for a while, you know we spend five minutes kind of diving right into what are the tropes of the genre. Avish Parashar: we're going to modify this a little bit maybe talk for a little bit longer but also talk about just kind of our experience and what our thoughts are on this genre and how we came across it and through that the genre tropes will come out. Avish Parashar: of time here. Michael Worth: yeah apparently as we jump in everybody seems to like hearing about how we fell in love with this movie or what our experiences were when we first watch this movie so that's kind of where the thrust of this is. Avish Parashar: yeah and this movie I love this movie screen is one of my favorite horror movies, and I like horror movies, I think you don't like horror movies, as much but uh. Michael Worth: I don't like horror movies categorically unless it's a really good horror movie and then I love it so no obvious what is it that made scream awesome for you, because you've watched Friday the 13th you've watched nightmare on elm street you've seen what are some other. Michael Worth: classic ones like classic slash are. Avish Parashar: slash one's a Halloween. Avish Parashar: nightmare on elm street you know the supernatural sounds like the omen, the exorcist the shining sure. Avish Parashar: So we have what I like about scream and and it's funny I saw this in the theater I think we actually saw it in the theater together. Avish Parashar: And this is, I think this is this is where I learned an interesting little trade of mike's that when he when he gets scared me because he's a musician. Avish Parashar: When he gets scared he starts to cover his ears. Michael Worth: I plug my ears. Avish Parashar: were sitting in the theater and I kind of glance over to new bands like coming up with your fingers are going into here. Michael Worth: But I can't I can't not watch i'm still watching it, I was like a scary sound my brain. Avish Parashar: So when I what I loved about it, I mean a when this came out just the kind of it was hip right like the the characters were like funny there was interplay. Avish Parashar: They were fodder, like any other kind of teen slasher, but it was like just the dialogue was fun and sharpen witty yeah um and what was cool about screen was that when you look at it, it was actually different in a few ways one is that number one is no supernatural element to it right. Michael Worth: Sure it's a classic bad guy with with weapons. Avish Parashar: yeah and through all the franchise's like the all the other movies, the killer, even if they started human like Halloween or Friday 13th we're not like. Avish Parashar: ended up becoming ridiculous and supernatural and screen was always just like I remember seeing screen what astonished me was like when. Avish Parashar: When when the bad guy got hit or punch do you like got hurt oh. Michael Worth: yeah like when cities fleeing from him he likes slams the door knocks down the stairs or you kind of like gets gets he gets hit and flips horizontal lands like lucky you got like a shoulder. Michael Worth: yeah you know, like human. Avish Parashar: yeah acted human. Avish Parashar: So I love I love that element of it um you know, obviously the The self referential you know the scary movie that plays into scary movie tropes was pretty cool you know the the old drew barrymore opening is just iconic. Michael Worth: Oh okay so let's talk about like like was it Clive Barker West craven. Avish Parashar: wes craven. Michael Worth: yeah the rest in peace man that guy was a frickin champ. Michael Worth: Like they what was so cool that it was they turned the the tropes of the genre on their head from the get go so first of all okay when drew barrymore's on the phone and it's like then she finds out that he's watching what's what's the quote it's like because i'm watching you right. Avish Parashar: I want to know what i'm looking at. Michael Worth: i'm looking at yeah and you're at all thats dark shit but remember when she breaks out, and he comes in stab Sir, as opposed to the 70s and 80s, they don't pull the camera away with a knife hits they want to show. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah it's pretty good. Avish Parashar: ready for today. Avish Parashar: It is yeah it's pretty graphic and brutal. Michael Worth: yeah but but also done with the directors, I it wasn't done just to be like splatter Gore, it was like no, you want to be like, no, no, this is not your typical slashing but we're gonna we're gonna play with this a little bit you know um. Avish Parashar: yeah and the. Avish Parashar: And the twist like the whole thing with with slasher movies, and like the Mike myers and Jason things like they could kind of sort of magically appear like you'd be running and they'd be walking. Avish Parashar: did that, like that the killer would just appear, and it was like such a brilliant twist. Avish Parashar: You know spoiler if you haven't seen the first 120 years ago like having two killers it just like right to that point, I mean i'm sure there's some more obscure movies, but like in a mainstream movie like that, having the killer be two people was. Michael Worth: super super cool and very elegant itself so many problems it's solved well how could, how could the boyfriend and killed when he was there ah right, how can the killer get ahead of them ah. Michael Worth: Right, you know it was really elegant um and the the the acting was really good it was it was a lot of like the whole 90s not brat Pack. Avish Parashar: That kind of like you know, like those have been commerce yeah. Avish Parashar: yeah drew barrymore's like resurgence right you've kind of been yeah I wouldn't get a great subversion she didn't know she'd been hitting the sauce pretty easy days they got it again. Avish Parashar: But it was a great but that's the thing biggest name, one of the biggest names in the movie at the time and she's on the poster prominently. Avish Parashar: yeah and they kill her off in the first 10 minutes, that was a huge like. Michael Worth: Oh, my God stuff great stuff so let's talk about what another great thing about this movie, which is a big. Michael Worth: raising the bar the quality of the characters here the actors really good Courtney Cox is a surprisingly good job frickin eight legged arachnophobia. Avish Parashar: David arquette I don't think is a very good actor, but he was like he was like. Avish Parashar: Perfect for this role he was. Michael Worth: Was this character's name it was doing Oh, do we and and but they all look the writing, for they were just such a funny. Michael Worth: connectable memorable characters you know, like Courtney Cox played the whole determine reporter really well doing with this gorgeous aw shucks kind of guy you know, like thing and. Avish Parashar: It had like like I said I had that like like horror comedy wasn't like a horror comedy in that the horror wasn't funny the horror was like horlick the. Michael Worth: screen evil dead, which is really comedy with. Avish Parashar: Right, but in between the scary stuff the interplay the dialogue and all that, like the all the duty stuff is ridiculous and the fact that every time he came on screen they played the broken arrow. Avish Parashar: yeah yeah like its own theme was. Michael Worth: It was it was it was a. Michael Worth: lone gunman the opposite of the lone gunman. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah he was terrible. Avish Parashar: trivia i'm not sure if this is true, but I heard that in the original script he died um but. Avish Parashar: Oh people liked him so much that they. Michael Worth: brought back all. Avish Parashar: They came alive. Michael Worth: yeah but he's. Michael Worth: limping because he had, like all this. Avish Parashar: girl cuz yeah I was just smart he got nerd there. Avish Parashar: And then, at the end of screen to to keep him alive when they're willing i'm out you hear the background the medic say Oh, he had so much scar tissue it saved it. Michael Worth: stopped this stuff tonight. Michael Worth: um So what do you think of this a little bit granular but what do you think of the knife as the as the main murder weapon for the screen God he do you like that kind of. Avish Parashar: Every everyone's gonna have like a different weapon and I guess to this point, it was like a hunting knife right, it was like. Michael Worth: yeah it was a Bowie knife basically. Michael Worth: yeah I liked it, I was wondering if he was going to do the Jason thing where it's like everybody gets a different death, but that was his kind of thing right there was the the. Michael Worth: i'm going to be a little bit martial arts nerdy for a second the knife is a particularly gruesome now that i've killed anybody with a knife. Michael Worth: Yet not yet, or at least in no way they could prove that I have but it's a very intimate way to attack somebody you got to get real close like. Michael Worth: A baseball BAT you've got to like pretend you're hank Aaron you got like it's a really grim way to kill somebody because you are like literally holding them in place it just like poking their insides with basically your. Avish Parashar: Hand yeah. Michael Worth: So it's a pretty cool weapon and it gets dark like it gets you know that kind of thing. Avish Parashar: yeah there's not any real like they don't go too crazy with any of the death, other than i'm rose McGowan and getting kind of crushed by the garage door is the only like everything else. Michael Worth: yeah yeah it was yeah it was a pretty much a straight death and again very earthy and real right. Michael Worth: Like and also by the way, they also explain away by having up to athletic teenagers why the killer was actually in pretty good shape it's like I remember when I was young and fit. Michael Worth: yeah do shit like that, like I could just like get knocked off a staircase and who cares because i'm 15. Avish Parashar: Right yeah. Avish Parashar: And how they could do some of the more physical stuff like stringing up the body in the beginning and whatnot it's like. Avish Parashar: Well there's two of them yeah yeah yeah. Michael Worth: Two athletes, you know. Avish Parashar: So the other thing that I liked about scream that was different. Avish Parashar: And you know I think this will probably use in our show is that i'm screen, other than the slasher movies, up to this point had a mystery element to it because. Avish Parashar: Like in the all the other slasher movies, the killer someone outside the group right Mike myers Jason. Avish Parashar: Never. Michael Worth: Even I know she did last summer it's like the dude yeah. Avish Parashar: yeah in this one, it was one of the one or two obviously of the group, and so. Avish Parashar: Like. Avish Parashar: it's not like all this random killer we got to get away from them as like ooh there's a random killer which one of these people is the killer yeah. Avish Parashar: In addition to us. Michael Worth: So one night werewolf kind of thing or a mafia cost component to it right. Avish Parashar: yeah and that you know, and then a lot of the movies, you know, because this obviously was game changing. Avish Parashar: Almost genre defining so many movies came out like this, you know I know what you did last summer yeah I was outside, but like urban legends was one where I get one of the people is the bad guy. Michael Worth: yeah yeah I think final destination, that was notes with death, but. Michael Worth: yeah, but it also part of that idea of like the the hip group of it also changed the hip group of teenagers from sex loving idiots at a at a at a resort to like actually intelligent hunted pray you know. Michael Worth: yeah and, yes, they still play the SAS company in fact in this movie they've acknowledged the silliness like don't don't lose your virginity or else your target. Avish Parashar: Right yeah yeah and, as you know, after a what's her name is Jeff Campbell yes finally yeah she died when she gets attacked and and Randy at the end lives because he was a virgin so. Michael Worth: Randy Randy, so this is a great a lot of fun us riffing this off and it's good because I haven't seen screaming about three years so i'm a little rusty it was my fault i've had a lot of work, this week, a lot of boost a drink. Michael Worth: But this this is reminded me of all the good stuff I think really that's I mean the, the only thing that we can't really just doing a podcast I mean just the cinematography is great. Avish Parashar: camera work with it what's what's Korea good luck in movie. Michael Worth: what's best for him and he just. Avish Parashar: answered so. Michael Worth: He does yeah this was this was really a great resurgence, to the popular I have West craven because you know, he was nightmare on elm street, but he kind of fallen into obscurity as. Avish Parashar: Hard even left a serious because it it kind of gone down a lot of what he he may have done another movie or to be coming back. Avish Parashar: I mean, this is the guy That was our timer, but that was the guy who did I mean one person came up with nine, oh no nightmare elm street and scream is that's pretty. Avish Parashar: yeah yeah impressive yeah. Exactly. Michael Worth: So now you, dear listener have learned about how we experience this movie and loved it. Avish Parashar: yeah and through that we got a lot of the tropes and stuff out so this brings us now to. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: Creating the outline so now taking the information and I love this movie and things we've we've mentioned we're going to hash out a high level outline for this movie. Avish Parashar: we're going to use a four act structure, and this is the starting point we're gonna make this a rough outline, but then it's improv comedy so we may veer from it. Michael Worth: We reserve the right to change any and all things because we don't care. Avish Parashar: Exactly. Michael Worth: Our show our show. Avish Parashar: Our show. Michael Worth: Our show David. Avish Parashar: Alright, so a five minute timer starts now so. Michael Worth: First i'm going to do trailer on a prologue come on. Avish Parashar: Well, maybe. Avish Parashar: I always say. Avish Parashar: prologue right because, like like in scream it's a prologue essentially right like there's no main characters you just see someone getting killed by the bad guy so um I would say either one could go, we could do a trailer like seeing the first death that's kind of that. Michael Worth: We have that we not commit. Michael Worth: To anything for the next four minutes and 55 seconds. Avish Parashar: decided the end, whether we want trailer. Michael Worth: Is act one as simple as the first death and we meet the the main party is it as simple as that. Avish Parashar: yeah I think so um so. Michael Worth: So that first death will happen in act one because that sets the tone for the killer right. Avish Parashar: yeah if it's not we don't do a prologue than the first death would be in the first act, and then we got to meet the cast of characters. one. First, death. Avish Parashar: And that cast will be mostly teams, with a couple of dollars like teachers COPs parents, whatever. Michael Worth: Sure sure I like the idea of you know what let's i'm just gonna write down teacher and a cop only because that'll help me to kind of guide my little improv brain, you know kind of thing again we may not admit that teacher made up becoming a reporter, and maybe come to a public calendar. Avish Parashar: yeah something completely random. Michael Worth: The account did. Michael Worth: We must kill the accountant. Michael Worth: He knows too much right so that's pretty easy now, how does the group understand there's a killer out is it was one of the first death is from the Group. Avish Parashar: yeah it's from the group or someone else in the group knows yeah again if it's if it's school high school, university it's like a student dies, and everyone obviously finds out. Michael Worth: OK, so now you to act two. Avish Parashar: yeah Act two is where. Michael Worth: You need help me on screen. Avish Parashar: yeah and I did just just I think an act to you know, the main character is a little bit wary but. Avish Parashar: I think something happens in Act two where they get attacked or becomes personal for them so they're kind of just going about their life, a little bit wary, you know, trying to stay safe like in screams Sydney gets attacked at her house. Avish Parashar: yeah out of nowhere and you see that in a lot of the movies, in the second act like. Michael Worth: Best justification reincorporation ever have the two doors that jam each other. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah. Michael Worth: That was like a chekhov's gun moment I was like what I thought I was like oh it's going to be worked in somehow I don't know I don't have it, I was like oh that's a corporation. Avish Parashar: So I would say the main character gets attacked. Michael Worth: You know what i'm going to take a step back, but you she will get attacked but, but here, he whenever. Michael Worth: It gets personal like the main character realize the killer has some vested interest in killing the main character, like you said, an act one it's like oh there's a killer out index was like there's a killer out and he's looking for me. Michael Worth: Right or right so that's really, really good i'm at this point in time, because we're dealing with scream we play the the suspicion game too. Avish Parashar: yeah I was about to say an act to the attack it's personal and I think. Avish Parashar: You start to explore a little bit about the suspicion how everyone's a suspect yeah. Avish Parashar: So then. Michael Worth: Do we want it no I won't I won't jump into yeah it's gonna have the improv. Avish Parashar: it's not a big deal so maybe it's excellent yeah. Michael Worth: A in apt to listen to more people die. Avish Parashar: Oh, they can, I think, in a movie probably yes in our improv. Avish Parashar: probably know, I think, an actor, he is where. Avish Parashar: I think actually a lot of the secondary characters. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah a lot of suspects, I guess. Michael Worth: let's decks and bodies their. Michael Worth: bodies and X real build a wall man build a wall bodies i'm at the same time. Michael Worth: here's boy, this is going to be tough, for us, the seeds of the identity are planted in APP three but they're not revealed to act for. Avish Parashar: yeah and and, in fact, a lot of the people who you think might be the killer die in act three it's. Avish Parashar: Like. Michael Worth: i've already scared of this. Avish Parashar: So in that in the original scream act three is when they're at the party and other people are being killed off like like the friend whatever name was tatum yep and things like that. Michael Worth: And then be right back. Avish Parashar: yeah and then act four is when it kind of becomes Sydney like just Sydney because in oh in act three like the camera man dies, and you know gail and do we get kind of knocked out. Michael Worth: yeah. Avish Parashar: And so, then X four is where it kind of becomes a little more Mano a Mano like it's basically just and we're mostly saying female because these movies late cameras almost always a female. Michael Worth: Female we want to Jennifer love Hewitt was in that one and. Avish Parashar: alicia wit was in a urban legends and yeah sometimes it's not but usually it's a female extreme. Michael Worth: Just do a girl come on. Avish Parashar: yeah so. Avish Parashar: So act for becomes like an action sequence, and not just like one fight it's like there's a lot of like chasing and trying to get away trying to set track like. Michael Worth: And and there's a stocking meaning like there's a little bit of a fight to chase and she hides and then there's the taunting where he. Michael Worth: where he really reveals some of his plot and there's another little fight and there's a little bit of count, you know so it's going to be this kind of like. Avish Parashar: Fight talking was that. Avish Parashar: Was it oh God, I remember, was it screamer scream to where she hides in the car but goes face has the key and so she likes all the doors and she can't see him and then suddenly like the one door unlocked and she'll run over and slam it. Michael Worth: Now screen. Avish Parashar: Okay, but that's. Avish Parashar: sort of that that stocking that cat and mouse thing. Michael Worth: yeah yeah exactly good stuff right so. Avish Parashar: All right. Michael Worth: All right, that's. Avish Parashar: that's pretty straightforward, I mean these movies it's mostly what comes out within the and that's our timer. Avish Parashar: So that most of it comes out, so the one thing we didn't quite figure out is beyond to a trailer to set the movie up or do you want to do a prologue where we do the first death and then act one is more just kind of meeting the people. Michael Worth: throw it back to you because you just saw screen, so you kind of know what you want to do, for your vibe what are you feeling, what do you feel today on this. Avish Parashar: I think that. Avish Parashar: I think I think the whether we do a trailer prologue I think the death should be separate from the meeting of the casket it's almost two separate seems completely. Avish Parashar: So we can either do. Avish Parashar: The as the prologue or do a thriller and do. Michael Worth: let's do the first death as a prologue and we can do. What do we do it was a death in a minute. Avish Parashar: yeah we can do death in a minute. Michael Worth: Or we can even do diminishing returns death. Avish Parashar: Oh, that could be fun. Avish Parashar: Right now. Avish Parashar: yeah so.
In the Style of a Dystopian Sci-Fi Action Police movie like Robocop. In a World....where plastic waste has so overwhelmed the world that people are forced to live in domes and live off the slugs that cover their bodies, one police officer will be transformed into something more than human. This movie is a tale of loss, gain, plastic, slugs, violence, revenge, and redemption. And improv comedy... This show contains the improv games Gibberish Switch, Emotional Lists, A to Z, Pardon, and Cutting Room. There's also lava, salt, and champagne. Plus two bad accents. Show Notes: This episode is an homage to Dystopian Future Action movies like Robocop. We are both big fans of the classic Robocop movie, and that comes out in this episode. Some truly bizarre and entertaining things happen in this show and we think you will enjoy it! Links Robocop on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCop Time Codes Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 04:07 Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 10:56 Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 19:24 Start of show: 28;01 Improv Game - Gibberish Switc: 28:25 Improv Game - Emotional Lists: 30:42 Improv Game - A to Z: 40:07 Improv Game - Pardon: 51:07 Improv Game - Cutting Room: 1:03:01 End of show, into announcements: 1:25:03 More Information About the Show, Mike, and Avish Subscribe to the podcast: http://AvishAndMike.com/Subscribe/ Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: segment one discussing the genre tropes. Avish Parashar: All right now we're going to spend five minutes discussing the tropes cliches and commonalities that you find in this genre of movie so i'm gonna start my five minute timer. Avish Parashar: and go all right mikey why don't you start us off when you think of this kind of movie what are some of the things that come to mind. Michael Worth: Well, the first thing is, is that it's almost always an urban environment okay so you're gonna be doing that because you want that kind of like. Michael Worth: i'm always gonna see like shadow run squalor right there's definitely an element of society that's kind of in its final stage of decay right so decaying society. Michael Worth: And there's a huge gap between the squalor and the rich in this that just kind of. Avish Parashar: that's kind of the big thing it's like and almost every one of these movies. Avish Parashar: A there's a very, very low income disparity is a very small group of very rich very powerful people a mega powers in this is almost always is always like corporations and they're always evil right Google. Avish Parashar: sheets with the government and the police are like kind of owned or sponsored because a lot of these like robocop go into satire and political commentary about like. Avish Parashar: Where you know capitalism run a muck could lead, so they always are running man is very much kind of like that right, like the society at least like a running man. Michael Worth: And demolition man. Avish Parashar: demolition man is a really. Avish Parashar: good example here I think that's gonna be one of the sample ones, when I finish this podcast episodes robocop and demolition man. Michael Worth: yeah yeah those those are great with that it's it's funny and run everything. Michael Worth: And they are evil in terms of like ends justify the means complete narcissism you know just whatever so how is our hero now here's the trope. Michael Worth: there's almost always a hero that comes out of this but they're almost always engineered by some facet of this society they don't just like stand up like. Michael Worth: They look like i'm sly and demolition man when he was carbon froze and then he was thought out to by society it's not healing trained harder something he was like. Avish Parashar: He is not just a normal. Avish Parashar: it's not just like you know it's like a modern day police procedural where it's like Oh, you know, Martin riggs is really good because, like a normal guy yet so it's a it's guys from a different time this guy was almost killed so we turned him into a half robot or assign more. Michael Worth: Engine yard yeah yeah. Avish Parashar: JESSICA Alba and dark angel is like genetically engineered so yeah there's. Avish Parashar: enhance or there's given like a special equipment and Armor right like like all those TV shows we talked about so right yeah but there's like an enhanced it's an enhanced Cuban who is usually I think almost always a cop like it's almost always is or was a police officer yeah. copper military. Michael Worth: will do that, and I think we should play that in this in this improvised movie or much I think we should play the idea of the enhanced human that's what a lot of fun for like our games and stuff like that. Avish Parashar: yeah and they could be. Avish Parashar: They almost always work or at least start out working for the police or for the government like it's it's not like knight rider right where it's like a shadowy figure dangerous quest. Michael Worth: looks like had a good yeah. Avish Parashar: yeah like this, like all right, you know you are a police officer, but you're super COP no. Michael Worth: No, right now, at this point in the game, the first thing they do, if you want to get a little granular with the movie and the tropes. Michael Worth: there's always going to be, and it could be jumping ahead but that's okay there's always going to be a moment where you get to see all the cool. Michael Worth: or a chunk of the cool abilities this guy has or girl, you know, like you get see the enhanced speed or like in robot cups of thing his his special gun is targeting computer in judge dredd you could see him with with the what's it called the war master or the the the bicycle. Michael Worth: The psycho he has and he's like super cool gun that has like 30 different types of ammo so that definitely happens because you want to showcase at this guy or girl is is above and beyond the kind of normal people. Avish Parashar: yeah and that's a lot of times that's like in the earlier part of the movie when they're kind of first rolling out going through the fodder you the cannon fodder like random thieves and narrow wells. Michael Worth: yeah just grinding through the. Avish Parashar: Meat grinder of this, you know. Avish Parashar: Now, so the bad guy is often someone who don't people don't know is a bad guy like. Avish Parashar: You know, like a corporate head or something, but you know they're implicitly or secretly doing something really bad. Avish Parashar: oftentimes they've got some kind of usually the bad guys Plaid has some sense of like exploiting. Avish Parashar: The lower class even more like you know we're gonna blow up this entire section of the city, so I can build my condominiums or i'm gonna harvest human organs to sell to make these other things are. Michael Worth: yeah in many ways he's kind of like the old. Michael Worth: silent film like land Baron. Michael Worth: You don't need where it's like. Michael Worth: That yeah I think publicly they're always on the up and up it's always like oh it's Senator so and so he's sponsoring all this, you know environmental rehabilitation and his company has been feeding blah blah blah what he's really doing is he's got this down. Michael Worth: This nefarious plan that you know, and this is where the third part comes in the trope is always the hero uncovers this nested plan. Avish Parashar: yeah and. Michael Worth: And one of two things happening concurrently the bad guy start building an antihero thing. Avish Parashar: yeah that's what I was gonna say I. Michael Worth: will add rather than. Avish Parashar: What I was gonna say that while i'm not sure what your other ones me but yeah usually it's like there is a counter point to the there's The anti here like again, like the other robot yeah oh we've got our technology to and we've made 9000 or whatever right. Michael Worth: And then the final wrap up with the final kind of big trope of this is at one point, the hero goes rogue from society and has to make society safe on his own merits there's a cool like mode, where he was. Michael Worth: born of society trained by society originally was protecting society and then has to go outside society in order to fix society. Avish Parashar: yeah or like has to kind of go against his programming or training like like robocop has to like you know, be a cop, again, instead of just a robot like has kind of tapping the human side. Avish Parashar: that's a big piece of a lot of times the person when their hands, they lose their humanity and then part of the journey. Avish Parashar: From a character's re tapping into it and real quick just there's usually side characters like a cop partner or a victim they rescue earlier who becomes like an ally. Michael Worth: Exactly and let's all say they're almost always jacked like. Michael Worth: yeah i've seen biceps the size of my head it's not one of these movies. Avish Parashar: Right all right excellent so that was one more five minutes that brings us to the end of our genre tropes discussion. Avish Parashar: I real quick hey i'll tell you what if you go and visit the blog post for this and fish and Mike calm. Avish Parashar: Go to this episode and if we missed a trope or a genre that either we didn't talk about now that comes up in the episode you're able to comment on the episodes on our blog so go ahead and let us know hey you guys most important tropes oh yeah. Avish Parashar: Perfect on these things were perfect and other things damn it, but nothing. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: Alright, so that brings us to segment two. Avish Parashar: Creating the outline. Avish Parashar: All right now we're going to spend about five minutes, creating a rough high level outline that we're going to. Avish Parashar: Follow now, this being improv comedy and short form improv comedy we may veer from the outline but we're going to come up with a rough outline right now and we're going to use a for act structure. Avish Parashar: Basically it's a three act structure, but we take Act two is split into two parts, it just flows, a little better for this format alright so first question we normally start with a prologue or movie trailer just I feel like a probably use a movie trailer versus a prologue. Michael Worth: let's go with that yeah. Avish Parashar: I mean the other thing we could do is. Avish Parashar: Like a prologue, but a lot of these future dystopian movies have like the opening voiceover crawl where it's like a 2022 a catastrophic earthquake is blah blah blah or. Avish Parashar: No money 75 corporation, you know governments collapsing corporations takeover. Michael Worth: yeah yeah yeah. Avish Parashar: Why don't we do that with an improv game, like a like a storytelling or one word type game so. Avish Parashar: we'll come back and. Michael Worth: switch or something like that yeah. Avish Parashar: yeah let's do like a let's do like an opening Vo crawl. Michael Worth: crawl and that's our that's our trailer slash prologue. Avish Parashar: yeah I like that. Michael Worth: idea too so Vo crawl. Avish Parashar: Alright, so for. Avish Parashar: Act one alright so in act one This is where we're going to we're going to meet the hero now one thing we didn't talk about trope wise is we almost always see the hero before they're enhanced you know right before they get shot before they get frozen before they get modified yeah. Avish Parashar: So, I guess, we want to see the hero kind of an order in ordinary life. Michael Worth: yeah and but here's the thing, this is the one of the things the Homer, especially in the 90s, is this thing's pretty brisk so we don't want it to be like Oh, the here walk around getting groceries it's likely hero in media recce. Avish Parashar: yeah here. Avish Parashar: In action, action, like in kop action. Michael Worth: Right and and the whole point is that they're competent before they get buffed up before they get tipped up they're not like it's not like the 90 pound weakling it gets transformed. Avish Parashar: Like Captain America. Michael Worth: Captain America no hard, but nobody. Michael Worth: These guys are already pretty pretty competent. Avish Parashar: yeah so we've seen an order live in action as a police officer. Avish Parashar: Will usually meet one of the allies, whether it's a partner or potential romantic interest with someone we meet here and will often meet the villain here to like and comment ordinary. Avish Parashar: yeah sometimes the villain betrays the hero like before they become enhanced like so the ads that kind of person element to yep yep. Michael Worth: So when you meet the villain it's usually in a description Cinematic description of the state of society, where the Members remember the villain is usually have held at the pillar of the Community. Avish Parashar: yeah. Michael Worth: So it's like you meet the villain but it's like dinner with the OSHA was depleted, this company is able to give you portable oxygen or whatever you know so that kind of thing. Avish Parashar: yeah there's like some kind of propaganda ad type thing and then usually then act one ends with the transformation, whether it's because they got shot up and need to be rebuilt, or whatever, so it ends with like the the turn and the enhancement. Michael Worth: yep, this is the crossing the threshold because that's the that's the threshold crossing he's going from human to you know i'm vintage human or whatever. Michael Worth: yeah so apt to is usually a showcasing heroes new abilities. Avish Parashar: yeah there's where we see what they can do yeah with your random criminals it's not like. Michael Worth: yeah low level criminals. Avish Parashar: Right yeah oh girls, and I would say that we often will see the villain here. Avish Parashar: kind of furthering their plan and sometimes the ally will will come across it like the ally, has an agency here. Avish Parashar: You know, like the partner copies investigating something you know all the superheroes off becoming and testing the powers, the ally COPs like oh hey look this CEOs starting to learn the CEOs like evil right right. Michael Worth: Here are the two yeah this put your the here or ally uncovers layers of deception. Michael Worth: starts to see villains plan. Michael Worth: Okay, so showcasing here's new abilities low level criminals villainous forward and plans either here or ally uncovers layers of deception starts to see the villains plan cool. Michael Worth: You know, by the way this is like a hero's journey, one on one so here's tests and trials right it's like you know. Avish Parashar: Learning and developing on. Avish Parashar: And then act too so. Avish Parashar: I would say yeah back to turn this is when he's going to shift from reactive to proactive, so I said, the end of Act two is when the hero kinda learns I think oftentimes he won't find out to the end of act three that the bad guys the bad guy i'm. Michael Worth: Right, he knows, right here. Avish Parashar: So he, like uncovers the plot the plot is to like destroy the slums of the city he'll uncover that plot, but he wanted to say, know who's behind it. Michael Worth: Right, but at the end of actors, when he decides to be like now i'm going to start actively to foil in this plot. Avish Parashar: Right without knowing that it's you know he's been going to be betrayed by so yeah I guess as actor, he is in trying to stop the plot yep. Michael Worth: hero not resources detectives whatever it is not researchers, but if. Avish Parashar: that's the case. Michael Worth: investigate that's the word, thank you. Avish Parashar: As English. Michael Worth: investigates. Avish Parashar: investigates the plot and then usually this will culminate with him learning what you need to know, but then a learning the pillar of the Community is a bad guy and meeting slash fighting slash losing to the anti robot. Michael Worth: I just wrote villains starts building antihero tech hero confronts. Michael Worth: villain flunkies. Avish Parashar: yeah he learns the bad guys we're. Michael Worth: yeah and loses to anti tech. Michael Worth: um this is that that's heroes darkest hour. Michael Worth: oftentimes here the Allies wounded. Michael Worth: and take and take it out of the game. Avish Parashar: We I was in the I could be wounded here or the ally could be the one who saves after the hero gets beaten by the. Michael Worth: Law. Michael Worth: let's go with that let's go the Li saves them that's pretty cool I like. Avish Parashar: The beginning of back for like the ally saves the hero on. Avish Parashar: rehab This is where the hero will ideally learn like maybe they're going to tap back into their humanity or. Michael Worth: Their past or something. Avish Parashar: Like that kind of going around society, you know, instead of yep. Michael Worth: And so now there's two things about this. Michael Worth: At this point in time to hear was usually pariahs either they're either they're the propaganda sister persona non grata. Michael Worth: or the police has been bought out, and so they have to be because, when the hero has to decide through accessing his humanity or whatever to go it alone and so that's the big heroes mobile he said i'm going to do it myself, so the hero. Michael Worth: I decide. Michael Worth: To go solo. Avish Parashar: yeah there's gotta yeah the solo slash only here on the Allies like yeah the, the system has abandoned him right and oftentimes it's been he's moved on to make a strong political stand oftentimes at the very end. Avish Parashar: Then, like the system will get back on the system will realize it was wrong and yeah you know, like the whole police force that have been to him at the beginning of X for. Avish Parashar: At the very end and he's defeated the bad guy he's defeated the bad monster, and then you know he's confronting the CEO villain who's got the upper hand but then, like all the COPs show up or like no like now we're good yeah. Michael Worth: yeah or liking Superman for the quest for peace. Avish Parashar: In a bed. Michael Worth: in a bad way cannot hear that man it's in the podcast out. Avish Parashar: Basically that's all it has happened and act, I mean a lot of it can happen, a lot of ways loss that's basically it's you got saved by the ally rehabs. Avish Parashar: has to go kind of road. Avish Parashar: You know fights the bad robot monster and then. Michael Worth: Yes, up yeah society steps up to to help him at the end, but not like he needed it it's more like society's changed he's been the agent the agent of. Avish Parashar: Well that's why you have the two right like he uses his powers and smarts to beat the robot um but then like. Avish Parashar: You know society kind of helps him beat the CEO like because yeah he needs like society on his side, otherwise he just going to be the bad guy like he's going to be the criminal over. Avish Parashar: yeah alright so awesome that is a solid outline, which we will stick roughly to. Michael Worth: which will probably nor completely.
Avoiding the “Yes but . . .” trap is the theme of today's episode with communication expert, Avish Parashar, author of, "Say 'Yes, And!': 2 Little Words That Will Transform Your Career, Organization, and Life!" This conversation helps to figure out where you have been saying, “Yes, but . . .” and how you can transform your results by switching to “Yes, and . . .” ABOUT AVISH PARASHAR Avish Parashar fell so much in love with improv – improvisational theatre or comedy on the spot – while studying for his Bachelor Degree in computer science at University of Pennsylvania, that after graduating, apart from working as a computer programmer in Chase Manhattan bank for a time, he formed Polywumpus Improv Comedy, performing around Philadelphia for years. Avish progressed to speaking and workplace training, using improv comedy as a tool to teach business skills of creativity, innovation and adaptability. A past chapter President of National Speakers Association, Avish is author of 2 books, "Improvise to Success!" and "Say Yes And!”. Contact: https://avishparashar.com/ Email: avish@avishparashar.com ABOUT HOST, NINA SUNDAY CSP Contact: nina@ninasunday.com and info@brainpowertraining.com.au Invite Nina Sunday to Speak, Train or Facilitate Interactive Learning Experiences, live online for any timezone or face-to-face Australia. Founder of training company, Brainpower Training Pty Ltd, she leads a team of Facilitators delivering workplace training Australia-wide. Author of ‘Workplace Wisdom for 9 to thrive; the 12 soft skills everyone needs to know for workplace success', and with a Bachelor of Arts, Diploma in Education plus a career spanning education, sales and television, Nina is recognized by her corporate clients as the 'workplace maven' because of her team's ability to help people quickly develop breakthrough solutions Nina is a past chapter president of Professional Speakers Australia, a CSP (Certified Speaking Professional) and twice-certified CVP (Certified Virtual Presenter). If Manage Self, Lead Others inspires you, book Nina as a virtual speaker for your conference globally, or in-person in Australia visit https://ninasunday.com . Brainpower Training's face-to-face and online workshops in Productivity, Communication, Leadership or Change and will take your team to the next level. Visit: https://www.brainpowertraining.com.au/training-topics/ Nina hosts 30-Day Challenges in Priority Management https://www.brainpowertraining.com/challenge-priority-management online for any timezone, and coming soon, Business Writing and Customer Service challenges. Follow Nina Sunday on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ninasunday/ The Manage Self, Lead Others podcast is mainly for experienced and aspiring managers to explore ways to elevate and transform team culture. Each week, Nina Sunday speaks with key experts from Australia and across the globe who share their insights in self-leadership and leading others. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In a World…where people often question and even regret the decisions they have made in their life…one women will find herself given a chance to see what her life would have been like if she had made…different choices. This episode was performed live (virtually)! It features the improv games Movie Trailer in a Minute, One word at a time typewriter, Gibberish Switch ,Pardon, and Cutting Room. Show Notes: About This Episode In this episode, we pay homage to Hallmark Christmas movies, but specifically movies that feature a supernatural element, like a ghost, or wish fulfillment. We performed this episode live and people watched via Facebook Live and Zoom. It was a ton of fun, and we told a nice little tale that probably involved more opium than most Hallmark Channel movies… Links List of Hallmark Channel Movies on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hallmark_Channel_Original_Movies Time Codes Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 06:25 Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 13:30 Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 20:22 Start of show: 29:20 Improv Game - Movie Trailer in a Minute: 32:20 Improv Game - One Word at a Time Typewriter: 34:30 Improv Game - Gibberish Switch: 43:28 Improv Game - Pardon: 52:06 Improv Game - Cutting Room: 1:04:05 End of show, into announcements: 1:19:15 More Information About the Show, Mike, and Avish Subscribe to the podcast: http://AvishAndMike.com/Subscribe/ Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: segment one discussing the genre tropes. Avish Parashar: So now Mike and I are gonna spend five minutes and I have my iPhone with my timer and a little Christmas hat on it. Avish Parashar: Yes, i'm going to set a timer for five minutes we're going to talk about the tropes cliches and commonalities of this genre. Avish Parashar: And please feel free to chime in via the chat or commenting on the Facebook feed, if you have any cliches that we've missed what makes a hallmark movie a hallmark movie please add that we'd love to do it, but Mike, let me start with you, I know you just watched a couple here. Mike Worth: What yeah yeah. Avish Parashar: What when you think of a hallmark Christmas movie with the supernatural what comes to mind okay. Mike Worth: So, first of all, of course, we're just gonna lean heavily into the whole Christmas thing Okay, but here's the difference there's two things that happened. Mike Worth: And and and funny enough Sarah kind of alerted me to something yesterday, where she was like Oh, you could actually do it's a wonderful life mclouth done a horror movie but it's kind of in that the first drop is this, it is somebody who, through their decisions in life have. Avish Parashar: fallen away from. Avish Parashar: What makes Christmas magical. Mike Worth: i'm not saying that they don't believe in Christmas, but there are prioritizing habits and or viewpoints that are like i'm christmasy like oh work instead of family, you know. Mike Worth: Money instead of true relationships all that stuff and one of two things happens in the in this kind of trope. Mike Worth: And they both need the same thing they both get in an alternate shot at a different reality that's kind of like what are the I think one of the big tropes right either they get the wish fulfillment. Mike Worth: or they get an external thing like I think there's one that I haven't seen there's one more like an angel is basically designed to like steer the person kind of like three. Avish Parashar: yeah and you know the. Avish Parashar: supernatural the broad category and we can sub divide my matrix of hallmark movies. Avish Parashar: In general Mike was talking about and I figured out if you take the y axis of dramatic slash sappy romantic. Avish Parashar: And comedic and the X axis of supernatural versus non supernatural those are four basic hallmark movies so we've done the comedic the one that dropped today on our podcast called near miss kiss was just straight romantic comedic. Mike Worth: Fine podcast. Avish Parashar: yeah that was that was like hallmark movies, that we had a lot of fun with that. Avish Parashar: But with the supernatural there's the wish fulfillment or ironic wish fulfillment yeah but there's also they can also be like ghosts and time displaced people so there's. Avish Parashar: Before Christmas with a K, whereas. Avish Parashar: 14th century night. Avish Parashar: there's like. Avish Parashar: I think it's called the spirit of Christmas, where a woman like has to like sell this manner, but when she gets there it's like haunted by a spirit, who she, of course, falls in love with, I believe that we were thinking more of the wish you know almost like. Avish Parashar: it's a wonderful lifetime. Mike Worth: Right right like the and again that that that's what I was saying, like if there's an angel something involved they're basically doing a wish fulfillment That was what your life would have been like if you have done that it's constant Nicolas cage thing, where he did the. Avish Parashar: You know yeah man. Avish Parashar: yeah yeah so alright so we've got a wish now. Avish Parashar: The whoever the grantor of the wishes once in a while it's just done some reason but there's often like you said, like and it's always like a wise ass like an older person who's always like slyly. Avish Parashar: You know, showing up throughout the story and kind of nudging them or winking at them are right. Mike Worth: Now Now let me know, let me ask this and it's okay to be too in depth, for this one does that person have a vested interest in getting the conversion like they're an angel that needs to get its wings like it's a wonderful life or it's just I guess my job, like I do. Avish Parashar: ya know usually it's just something like asshole who's like Oh, by the way. Avish Parashar: If you're deciding is a family show we're pretty clean, but we do drop some language. Mike Worth: yeah. Mike Worth: We don't we don't get super naughty but like 13 and up was it but. Avish Parashar: If you're like on a different coasts and you're watching this at work. Avish Parashar: You know, we may drop some put. Avish Parashar: Not a lot, but just you know. Avish Parashar: But usually it's like yeah it's it's usually the person you never find out why they're doing it, I mean you, just like the spirit of Christmas right there like they're doing it to help this person who is almost always a female reconnect with her. Avish Parashar: her family her right. Avish Parashar: is almost always a reconnection right. Avish Parashar: Like. Avish Parashar: Well that's what it is it's never a person who like grew up and never like Christmas. Mike Worth: Right right they had their childhood innocence and their love of all that is good, with Christmas and it fell away that's a huge trope. Mike Worth: And in this what I don't think there's a dead relative in the first one there's always a dead relatives. Mike Worth: In this yes everyone's still alive, because. Mike Worth: You have to have. Mike Worth: The strange people come back and reconnect. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah yeah well it's when when it's an alternate life like if she's going to encounter everyone from a previous life and she's gonna want to connect with them, but they're like oh Where are you missing. Avish Parashar: it's always a female leader like 99% of time, you know there's almost always a sassy sassy best friend or sister. Mike Worth: yeah yeah exactly yeah like a who's the one from lower merion that I love Tina fey Tina fey be phenomenal that. Mike Worth: it's basically. Avish Parashar: Like the friend the fight again doesn't believe her. Mike Worth: Right so so the here's the thing what is in the trope, why is the wish happening to show her alternate stuff Is it because she's broken something, and she has a chance to fix it. Mike Worth: Because that's usually what I think it is usually it's like she's headed down a path where she's gonna make a decision it's. Avish Parashar: going to. Mike Worth: hurt a lot of people, or you know, create a structure that's you know anti Christmas. Avish Parashar: yeah and that's our five minute timer. Mike Worth: We don't care I don't care it's Tuesday we're going. Avish Parashar: I don't know she's I mean there's almost always something to overcome there's some reason she lost touch and why she became so like career driven and material and into the city. Avish Parashar: You know universe like cities bad small towns good i'm right but I don't know if it's like it could be that she broke something but and that can kind of come out of the improv I think. Mike Worth: So last thing is her foils there's a man that she didn't settle down with because of one divergence, and when she goes to the which film he realized that he was a true love, what about the other guy that she's currently with it's your jerk or the just a bad fit. Mike Worth: Because what. Avish Parashar: I find with wish fulfillment she. Avish Parashar: She ends up realizing she's in the right place to be oh Oh, she got her husband and her kids or whatever, and then. Avish Parashar: She sees what our life could have been like actually taking the other path, but realizes oh no like I you know, like the one I saw not that long ago. Avish Parashar: there's a lot of tension in the relationship in the marriage because, like he's busy with his career and this and that she's like I, but then she wakes up she longer with them. Avish Parashar: So over the course of the movie she realizes Oh, she needs to be with the original guy, so I think when it's wishful phone. Avish Parashar: yeah you know she's she's brought back to so she does maybe meet that one she didn't go wish that she always thought about but realized that he wasn't the best fit for. Mike Worth: Okay okay well that makes sense we'll go with that one and. Avish Parashar: or who knows it's improv so maybe everyone ends up dying by a giant bag of the. Mike Worth: aliens aliens. Avish Parashar: we've gone there before alright, so that we got some basic crops and again if anyone wants to add, please feel free to. Avish Parashar: throw some in the comments are happy to to see what you got there and so now that brings us to segment two. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: Which is creating the outline, so we are now going to spend about five minutes, creating a high level outline for our story it's. Avish Parashar: we're going to use a four X structure it's similar to three x storytelling fruchter we just break Act two into two parts right have you explain more and we get to that. Avish Parashar: And this is just kind of a starting point it's improv comedy, which means we may veer from this, we may completely ignore it, but it's the basic it's kind of like our basic. Mike Worth: flow and keeping us from going off kilter you know it keeps it like organized a little bit you know. Avish Parashar: Exactly so. Mike Worth: For you, the listener. Avish Parashar: Five minutes starts now. Avish Parashar: alright. Mike Worth: So next one is pretty easy we're gonna. Mike Worth: it's gonna be a female. Avish Parashar: The main character is going to be female we established her her life satisfaction. Mike Worth: And the hook is in act one of this kind of thing it's materialistic Lee satisfying but spiritually lacking does that make sense. Avish Parashar: yeah she's successful she she has all the trappings I guess. Avish Parashar: You know what it is like her life isn't she doesn't appreciate this is a little different from the non supernatural because he has them she doesn't appreciate it and understand what she has right. Avish Parashar: Like in the in the non supernatural one she has it but it's missing something here what she's missing is really. Avish Parashar: Like Maybe she needs to make some decisions and changes, but for the most part, like the stuff he's got his good she's just so. Avish Parashar: Uncertain or resentful or sad she missed out on you know the other path. Avish Parashar: So we see all the. Mike Worth: yay and then they get nurtured like pummeling my head okay yeah so that that's that what does that mean okay so got us a rough that she's got everything she needs so she's actually supposed to be a pretty. Avish Parashar: content and maybe not necessary everything like Maybe she is like gave up her career to just be a family person. Avish Parashar: And then through the things she realizes that she didn't need to give it up, she read text her love of architecture, but yeah she don't have like everything but she's she's got a good life but there's some things there that are you know, causing her headaches problems. Mike Worth: Okay, so oh yeah. Avish Parashar: And I think it ends. Avish Parashar: yeah act one will end with the wish being granted her encountering the person right, so we do need to meet some of these other people, the sassy friend the. Avish Parashar: The angel. Mike Worth: she'll be married right with family. Avish Parashar: Probably doesn't have to be but. Mike Worth: yeah let's let's not not as soon as I put on the on the table there, and so, at the end of the day, which he basically says she's now she's yeah she's got a comfortable of, say, I watched Christmas air force drop yesterday, so I went back to what's up a little bit off on that. Avish Parashar: watching the wrong hallmark movies. Mike Worth: So Charlie boy was great um no but you know I know you're saying what you're saying is this she's got a comfortable life. Mike Worth: uh she's got the things that if you look at it through a external lens is like you've got a wonderful beautiful wonderful life she's like Oh, but I miss this chance because it's pivot point that I had. Avish Parashar: In right and then she gets to see. Avish Parashar: What life would have been like. Mike Worth: Okay So yes, that's gonna be. Avish Parashar: that's a pretty standard mentoring angel in Act two. Avish Parashar: She wakes up and is in this new world so there's obviously the you know wtf she's like. Avish Parashar: You know it's like the most these movies, a genie doesn't grand her the wishes Teller she just kind of wakes up and all of a sudden she's like oh yeah where Am I like this is row, this is my old high school flame is my husband now and. Avish Parashar: So there's a lot of like discovery of this new of the wish fulfilled. Mike Worth: yeah yeah and she's right into active is all about getting the crossing the threshold she's now in the Special World so we just want to basically described how different everything is and how maybe initially she kind of was like this is so cool. Avish Parashar: i've got yes. Avish Parashar: I think in this one she's just reacting and she's so happy to have all these things that she thought she needed in a previous life yeah oh. Avish Parashar: she's happy there might be a little bit of conflict, you know he started. Avish Parashar: You know, maybe she misses like her family her kid from a previous life but, overall I think she was like. Mike Worth: Well funny but then we can do we enact to we can actually play what in the other version of the homework thing was act, one which is like oh she's got a great life but she's like doesn't have time for family and she's not doing. Mike Worth: All these christmasy things that you used to do because she's so busy, and so it's like you kind of like take act one from you know near miss kiss and you make it act to have this, you can see i'm getting at where it's. Avish Parashar: Like. Mike Worth: she thinks she's happy it's like yeah we a lot of money, but you know. Avish Parashar: So yeah alright, so it ends, I think, with. Avish Parashar: Maybe the first challenge of this new life like you know things seem good, but then you realize oh like I don't have this oh now, I have to deal with this which i'd never had to do in my life yeah yeah. Mike Worth: I got it I got it already I already have a conflict that i'm like I know it's it's improv interesting, but if you get an idea you got to like kind of like this long form, you can be a little bit. Avish Parashar: Ly little way, maybe it'll come up maybe it won't but. Avish Parashar: yeah so then. Avish Parashar: I think in act three she kind of. Avish Parashar: I think she kind of goes on a parallel path one is trying to get back to real life, like maybe trying to Maybe she goes to where her family was original family was and tries to meet them and connect with them yeah Maybe she tries to. Avish Parashar: You know reconnect with angel to get out of this wish. Avish Parashar: Plus she's got to deal with solving whatever issues and problems exist in the in the new. Mike Worth: timeline yeah yeah and there's some crises there. Avish Parashar: tries to tries to go back and tries to solve. Mike Worth: This is a fairly complex, what did what did homework and so nuanced. Avish Parashar: We might be adding maybe i've analyzed too much. Avish Parashar: Maybe there's and then ideally this much nuance in them. Mike Worth: Chinese brainwash someone to trigger him. Mike Worth: candidate. Avish Parashar: Other duck timer well. Avish Parashar: Until we get. Mike Worth: To act for is actually pretty straightforward, which is she does the following things she basically decides realizes your old life was amazing makes gestures. Mike Worth: In her new life that are. Avish Parashar: indicative. Mike Worth: of her character from the old life. Mike Worth: There by solving that timeline. Mike Worth: And then the angel basically. Mike Worth: says yeah you've learned your lesson and kind of brings her back to the. Avish Parashar: yeah so she takes what she did in the new life and uses that to make changes in her old life and. Mike Worth: And also, we appreciate that what she had is what she had. Avish Parashar: Right that's kind of the dovetailing of the two lives is like Oh, I can do this, and this and here's how it lands and then she wakes up. Mike Worth: yeah I like what you said about the idea of like her, like being like oh yeah I can actually take what I what I thought I gave up you know, like, I gave up the skill set to, and I can actually bring it in incorporate into my current LIFE and have the best of both worlds. Mike Worth: yeah man look at my music. Avish Parashar: You and yours go bad music. Avish Parashar: Alright, so we got a pretty good outline like you said, we may or may not stick with that.
In this episode we pay homage to the Christmas-time action movie, “Die Hard”! Is it a Christmas movie? Who knows! We certainly don't settle that debate here. But it is enough of a Christmas movie for us to do a Holiday episode based on it. Links Die Hard on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Hard Time Codes Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 05:17 Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 13:03 Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 18:50 Start of show: 23:44 Improv Game - Movie Trailer: 25:40 Improv Game - Emotional Lists: 27:24 Improv Game - Pardon: 37:52 Improv Game - Newsroom: 44:54 Improv Game - Cutting Room: 53:12 End of show, into announcements: 1:08:03 More Information About the Show, Mike, and Avish Subscribe to the podcast: http://AvishAndMike.com/Subscribe/ Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: yeah so we start with. Avish Parashar: segment one discussing the genre tropes so now we're gonna spend five minutes discussing the tropes commonalities cliches of this type of movie so i'm going to say my five minute timer here, this is not a duck is a different I don't have my timer right now. Michael Worth: I just set up a timer where it stops at to five. Michael Worth: minutes with i'm too old for this shit. Avish Parashar: Oh that'd be amazing alright timer started so Mike why don't you kick us off when you think of the action movie. Michael Worth: Right so first days, we had a big commitment, right here we go into direct route, with a lethal weapon route because one's a buddy COP and one's a you know kind of thriller. Avish Parashar: Ah, I think the thriller might be a little. Avish Parashar: easier, but. Avish Parashar: I think the COP is almost its own. Avish Parashar: genre we're going to want to do with some. Michael Worth: diehard diehard today. Michael Worth: i'll feel that. Avish Parashar: Alright, so we're going to do kind of a. Avish Parashar: yeah there are other movies in the genre there was a horrible movie which I didn't even see all of with Ben affleck reindeer games which was like yeah said it Christmas like one person. Avish Parashar: So there's a you know there's it's a one hero right like solo protagonist yep. Michael Worth: he's almost always COP ex military actually he is he's just combat smelter he's always because he's got to have a reason for a gun and a reason to be kind of good we're. Avish Parashar: Good at what he does, I mean we basically you know we've done this before like with with our critters one which ended up just being essentially gremlin, so this is basically going to be a die hard oh my gosh yeah. Avish Parashar: So yeah This may not the tropes to talk about may not be true of every. Avish Parashar: movie in this genre but so. Avish Parashar: diehard heavily. Avish Parashar: So finding. Avish Parashar: it's a solo person, but, and you know, like overwhelming odds like it's one finds himself in a situation where there's like a whole gang of bad guys. Michael Worth: Well, and here's one big thing he's isolated he's isolated from any physical assistance, although later on, he will gain communications assistance that happens in all these habits and speed and happens in die hard like. Avish Parashar: that connects with the outside world, they can't help them physically, but they can help them with information. Michael Worth: physically isolated. Avish Parashar: and emotional support. Avish Parashar: Right right so let's. Avish Parashar: yeah uses his wits there's action scenes and fights there's usually a charismatic bad guy. Michael Worth: The bad guys definitely charismatic I mean come on. Avish Parashar: But even all the other. Avish Parashar: You know, like the couple bad like Mr joshua and. Michael Worth: soccer tennis tennis Dennis hopper and speed yeah. Avish Parashar: yeah there's always a charismatic. Avish Parashar: villain and there's usually a more lethal henchmen. Avish Parashar: Like the brains of the henchmen right the the big German brother guy from die hard or. Avish Parashar: Was Gary Gary busey from yeah sounds like the brains of the operation is charismatic. Michael Worth: And then almost always a Brazilian Jiu jitsu fight scene. Avish Parashar: Brasilia yeah I. Avish Parashar: Think of a single actually move it has a Brazilian Jiu jitsu played see. Michael Worth: lethal weapon has that. Avish Parashar: Oh that's true you're right lethal weapon. Michael Worth: gracie brothers Q and on it yeah. Avish Parashar: that's true. Michael Worth: that's the whole thing was what is happening in there Why is he Why is he having sex on the ground with mud, but. Avish Parashar: That was before it was even a thing that's before us. Michael Worth: For UFC yeah. Avish Parashar: Alright, so I think what's important for this discussion, though. Avish Parashar: it's a saxophone this guy there was. Avish Parashar: No is the the Christmas element right, because this is we're not just doing a direct action movie we're specifically saying this is a Christmas action movie So how do they try to jam what Christmas elements get jammed into these action movies. Michael Worth: So, so this is really important, one of two things happens with the villains thing out of the bill is taking advantage of the Christmas rhythm to do a crime, like they did with knock to me, plus everyone's home for Christmas or um the are are. Michael Worth: doing a crime that as a Christmas bent which is kind of the same thing, like hey there's a bunch of drug smuggling coming in, but they're sending them all in in Santa dolls or reindeer plush toys. Michael Worth: Because there's a lot of traffic happening around Christmas and no one can track it you don't I mean. Michael Worth: yeah yeah me either the crime is either taking. Michael Worth: advantage of the way people behave around Christmas or it's using Christmas gear to. Avish Parashar: As like a cover yeah they're all you know it's like a Santa Claus gang where they dress up as Santa clauses and. Michael Worth: Point break, but like Christmas point break. Avish Parashar: yeah and this stuff because. Avish Parashar: And this will be more on you potentially in post production there's like little Christmas music themes thrown in or or or diabetic music or whatnot but there's like. Avish Parashar: yeah I don't know how much we're gonna be able to do here, but. Avish Parashar: we'll try was that we'll try. Michael Worth: we'll try. Avish Parashar: Oh, and also there's various like I mean these movies, in general, have one liners and. Michael Worth: Yet it's really snappy dialogue, like the good guy he's it's cat and mouse with the bad guy verbally and there's lots of like that one liner back and forth i'm. Avish Parashar: At some of those one liners tie into Christmas, you know, like whoa whoa whoa no I haven't machine gun like. Michael Worth: yeah yeah or you know God rescue marriage God rest ye merry gentlemen kind of thing or. Avish Parashar: yeah exactly so there's some kind of. Avish Parashar: words. Michael Worth: which nobody using the show because it's improv and I made it up and I get to use it. Avish Parashar: I love it. Michael Worth: Copyright 2021 sparkle so. Michael Worth: There is a love interest. Michael Worth: But the love interest is secondary in terms of there's no love scene. Avish Parashar: As we're talking so some of the other ones may have more that's that's our five minute timer it's a good point, though, because, like diehard has a love interest but. Avish Parashar: it's it's just motivation for him it's not like yeah and then even lethal weapon like riggs doesn't really have a love interest at all in that. Michael Worth: No, no. Michael Worth: I was thinking of speed speed is diehard on a bus there's the love interest but they don't really get it until the end they're kind of all. Michael Worth: yeah and also they're all still basically stopped. Michael Worth: working to stop the criminals plan. Avish Parashar: that's really what this is, I mean lethal weapons little different but yeah these diehard type movies, the time is very compressed it's like one even event it's not like like lethal weapon takes place over a series of days, you know. Michael Worth: takes place over five hours. Avish Parashar: yeah and and saved, they would be like it's all just like great compressed. Michael Worth: Their last thing is there here's the last few because we're in a world right now right and speed is do this quite as much but dire definitely does. Michael Worth: When the hero who's been isolated there's two there's two more trips when the hero gets in contact with the outside world, he gets to people to deal with. Michael Worth: The smart confidence slash ally who's butting heads with the idiotic bureaucratic head and the smart confident la is always right and the bureaucratic head. Avish Parashar: Is oh yeah. Michael Worth: And and and and the capacity with both these two are both these two, but obviously one Reginald van van Patten and then the other is what's his face from the breakfast club. Michael Worth: Oh yeah so so that that's a big thing, and the second thing is this, and this is more in the act structure. Michael Worth: The hero ends up usually being very creative with whatever he can find because he's kind of doing like. Michael Worth: A foraging thing, so he tends to kind of build his offense up from nothing it's almost like an elder scrolls where it's like ah you found this stone and you found this cloth and now i've made an axe and you know kind of like he does a lot of that kind of stuff. Avish Parashar: yeah and he always gets sorry. Avish Parashar: yeah i'm in a lot of these movies, the hero either gets captured or has a face to face with the bad guy like 11 they get captured have like a face to face and die hard you know him in. Avish Parashar: him and Hans Gruber have that face to face with Google pretend to be the guy said, like there's a meeting it's not just oh we're like adversaries and we fight at the end you know even in speed Dennis hopper and kiana face off in the beginning. Avish Parashar: Right face to face so there's usually a face to face alright so excellent good genre trope list right and that brings us to. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: Alright, we are now going to spend five minutes, creating a high level outline for this movie we use a for act structure. Avish Parashar: Basically, three act structure with act to being broken into two parts that helps for our structuring. Avish Parashar: um there's a high level, which means this we're going to roughly follow this, but this is improv comedy so we may veer from it, we may throw it away entirely but this gives us a good starting point. Avish Parashar: So, to begin a and we always start with either a prologue or a movie trailer what are you feeling today for this kind of movie Mike. Michael Worth: whoa I could go either way um. Avish Parashar: I mean these movies, usually have very good trailers. Michael Worth: And let's go with the trip. Avish Parashar: But they also often have prologues like. Avish Parashar: The taking over the Naga tomi Plaza that wasn't trail I feel like. Michael Worth: I have definitely had a trailer and and. Michael Worth: yeah but you know lethal weapon has a bit of a prologue. Avish Parashar: yeah she jumps off the building, but i'm. Michael Worth: Christmas to trailer because what a. Avish Parashar: lot of the other right that music for this this trailer music. Avish Parashar: Alright, so we'll do a movie trailer alright so in act one, we need to obviously meet the hero yeah we should meet the villain. Michael Worth: The hero, is not a disgrace COP or a disgraced you know that kind of thing he's actually in the service because because you wanted to actually be like so again i'm blending calories from speed in here as well, so you meet the hero. Avish Parashar: yeah. Michael Worth: And he's he's a smart tough, it was gonna be a cop he's he's gonna be a cop. Avish Parashar: yeah he's gonna be like a cop, but yeah. Avish Parashar: But yeah it's gonna find themselves in this situation so. Michael Worth: Right, he stumbles so. Avish Parashar: He said something christmasy in act one and then that's kind of what's going to be the impetus for because, by the end of act one the crime starts, you know taken over the Plaza the hijacking the bus whatever. Michael Worth: And and honestly, if you think about this, this is kinda like a video game where it's like at the end of act one they here has been stripped of. Michael Worth: All his resources, except for the bare minimum, and needs to start figuring out what's going on, so the heroes not lowest point but like he's crossing the threshold at one is like i've taken away all your gear and I put you in the bottom of this pit and as you're climbing out so so. Avish Parashar: So something happened, where he is not with it, what is without his stuff yeah. Michael Worth: Isolated without a lot of his stuff not knowing what the plan or the rhythm is of the village and the villains got all the cards, because the whole point is is thinks he's to start off with the plan going perfectly for the villain. Michael Worth: So, like all the guests are locked down the cameras are cut. Avish Parashar: everyone's yeah so Lisa diehard the presence of the hero. Avish Parashar: is like the fly in the ointment for the villains, like everything would have been fine for the villains if the hero hadn't been speeds, a little bit different because the bad guy wanted jack on the bus but. Avish Parashar: Sure, but yeah it's like they've got this great plan, but oh there's a there's one thing we weren't. Avish Parashar: They weren't counting on. Avish Parashar: john mcclane. Michael Worth: yeah I think we have to the one thing we're counting on that makes that makes it fun. Avish Parashar: Right right to. Michael Worth: Act two is it's pretty easy actually the few here is going to do two things he's going to start trying to get in touch with the outside world, let him know about the crime. Michael Worth: And he's going to just start disrupting the crime on the inside, which usually means some fighting some combat some kills and stuff like that that's going to be kind of pretty much at to, I think. Avish Parashar: yeah and actually it's like sort of that reactive phase where he's disrupting but he's kind of learn like what are these guys after. Avish Parashar: Like who's in charge like he's still trying to here's a kind of learn a lot, and in that process, he kind of comes across some of the. Michael Worth: Yes, the villain. Michael Worth: He gains a lot of information things like that you know. Avish Parashar: Oh, he gets a machine gun. Avish Parashar: yeah. Michael Worth: At this stage of the game. Michael Worth: uh actually if there's a love interest we don't know if there will be, this is also it's motivating him a little bit to be a little proactive he's probably met the love interest in act one, and you know. Avish Parashar: or loving just so he knows from before like yeah yeah. Michael Worth: Like holly holly mcclain yeah um. Avish Parashar: And if that person exists, they usually come in act one but in our show maybe they won't appear to act too sure. Avish Parashar: um and then. Avish Parashar: I forget it somewhere around here, he makes contact with the outside world. Michael Worth: Yes, exactly right about that too is, if you actually know why because expertise with the outside world shows up the stress to make life difficult for the villain. Avish Parashar: yeah the outside world shows up so we're actively on the outside world shows up, I think, at this point now the hero is going to be more proactive he's gonna be like instead of just trying to survive if it was going on he's like all right, I got stopped these guys from doing this thing. Michael Worth: Your liver. Michael Worth: Active because heroes darkest hour is coming up something happens where the villain puts together a quick brutally effective plan that almost kills the hero. Avish Parashar: He almost kills them and something happens at the end of act three were like he gets the leverage either he figures out the love interest, so he kidnaps them. Avish Parashar: yep yeah that's usually that's usually what happens at the end of act three there's like. Avish Parashar: Whatever important leverage the hero has the bad guy figures out and gets a hold on right right. Avish Parashar: To be a kid sometimes it's like the kid sometimes it's the love interest or the wife or the spouse or whatever yep. Michael Worth: And then so then X for literally becomes the hero recovering from the near death experience and then I mean honestly like almost like a video game final fantasy six like climb the Tower defeat the boss, you know. Avish Parashar: he's got to overcome the huge obstacle, the huge hurdle. Avish Parashar: You know, save the the love interest, not the bad guy stopped the plan save all the innocent civilians do it all yeah. Michael Worth: And do it all in two hours or less. Avish Parashar: Yes, with Christmas themed one liners all right and that's our five minute timer perfect.
This episode pays homage to Hallmark Christmas movies like...er...every Hallmark Christmas movie. Avish is a fan, and Mike appreciates them for what they are. In this movie we get in most of the cliches common to the genre (and boy, there are a lot!) - and we have a ton of fun discussing those tropes. Come kick off the holidays with us with our production of “Near Miss Kiss”! Links The Hallmark Channel's Christmas Movie Page: https://www.hallmarkchannel.com/christmas Info on Hallmarks' “Countdown to Christmas” on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallmark_Channel#Countdown_to_Christmas Time Codes Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 06:11 Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 15:42 Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 24:19 Start of show: 30:29 Improv Game - Movie Trailer: 31:17 Improv Game - Last Letter First Letter: 33:23 Improv Game - Best of Times Worst of Times: 38:47 Improv Game - Theatrical Genres: 49:57 Improv Game - Cutting Room: 59:16 End of show, info, announcements: 1:12:33 More Information About the Show, Mike, and Avish Subscribe to the podcast: http://AvishAndMike.com/Subscribe/ Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up: Avish Parashar: Discussing the genre tropes, so we are now going to spend five minutes talking about the tropes cliches and commonalities of the hallmark Christmas movie and oh boy, are they a lot of them. Avish Parashar: And they're in all. Avish Parashar: I got a five minute timer now. Michael Worth: Yes, sir. Avish Parashar: All right, well Mike you I did not feel the need to rewatch one I haven't gotten into hallmark spirit, you know. Avish Parashar: Obviously, this is a Christmas movies, but we're still before thanksgiving one recording it's I haven't quite but i've seen so many of these over the years that I didn't feel like I needed to like watch one. Avish Parashar: You just. Avish Parashar: watched one why don't you tell us what are some of the things that. Avish Parashar: jumped out at you. Michael Worth: i'm surprised i'm not watch too many movies i've watched it three or four of them look everybody's watched one, but you know i'm not i'm not the aficionados you are so. Michael Worth: The one I watched yesterday was you know come Christmas reunion, or whatever it's all the same thing Okay, this is not hard to figure out. Michael Worth: The whole thing is the main character is on this kind of redemptive Arc to like learn about the spirit of Christmas and usually the person is a high powered. Michael Worth: You know socialite banker businessman right they're not super high powered and they get put in a situation where they have to do the fish out of water, and they have to. Avish Parashar: They always start out in the big city. Avish Parashar: Fast paced lifestyle yep correct climber yep ambitious. Michael Worth: Wanting for nothing material that's the big thing of wanting for nothing materially. Avish Parashar: yeah they've got all the material things and they're on the cusp. Avish Parashar: Often they're on the cusp of like the big deal that's going to make their career. Michael Worth: The most of the promotion yeah right, and they have an everything looks great but, whoever they have for their wife or husband or fiance because it's never a wife or husband well give me. Michael Worth: it's always eye candy and right, you know, and then the inciting incident happens that forces them to have to end up in a small town America. Avish Parashar: All those little town. Avish Parashar: yeah I will say that they're often they're, not always with someone they are sometimes they're single i'm sure if they're with someone then there with the wrong person. Michael Worth: Definitely yeah because because there's that the contract was a giant love story. Michael Worth: Yes, and you place yeah so you have to where they end up in fish out of water in this small town can be anywhere but it's just not the big city and some of the other troops, the. Avish Parashar: To the usually are the small town. Because. Avish Parashar: they're often sent to the small town end of the small town to conduct business. Avish Parashar: in a negative way like they want to buy they want to demolish like. Avish Parashar: They want to tear down the town's Christmas tree that's been there for 100 years to make room for a shopping mall or you know they want to kind of they're there to kind of tear up the fabric of the town, but then they get sucked into the town, and then they realize, oh no. Michael Worth: yeah and so there's trip number two the town is populated by eccentric but affably lovable characters that are just completely like charmingly eccentric and you know. Michael Worth: The that kind of thing you've always got some worldly matronly figure who plays kind of like a female mentor kind of thing um. Avish Parashar: Sometimes will say, I will say it's a it's a mentor figure sometimes it's a. Avish Parashar: Kindly old man sometimes the time the old woman, I would say, as a kindly is either kindly old man or a kindly kind of sassy old woman. Michael Worth: yeah, for example, yesterday, the one that I got was a andie macdowell played the SAS but she played the owner of the restaurant, the town restaurant. Michael Worth: Part of wisdom to the girl who was the heroin for the so he looks great, by the way, just like what's her face and spider man homecoming as it may she's aging beautifully. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah. Michael Worth: Oh yeah i'm okay. Avish Parashar: Well, so we should just call it, as it is the protagonist in these 98% of the times the female. Michael Worth: yeah I don't really think like a barring something like a Nick cage one where he did ultra timeline, which is the fantasy one it's almost always a female protagonist. Avish Parashar: yeah I mean there might be some that have male protagonists and sometimes it's set up and like two protagonists. Avish Parashar: Because you know, sometimes it's both need to learn the lesson, but. Avish Parashar: yeah a female is almost always like. Michael Worth: So another trope when she meets the future love interest they don't hit it off. Avish Parashar: And yes, they never hit it off. Michael Worth: Right right, but they have to work together, because of whatever this person the female titus needs to do this guy's the obstacle, or he has to aid her or whatever, and of course he doesn't want it to do it, etc, etc. Avish Parashar: And they often and they're gonna butt heads over the whole like small town life versus big city fast pace. Michael Worth: it's like you saw yesterday is moving. Michael Worth: You cannot put too many images to Christmas in this everything is you know anytime there's a cut you're hearing silent night and Jingle Bells you're getting frosty the snowman eggnog everywhere it's always snowing. Avish Parashar: Oh there's oh there's often an event a Christmas event the Christmas pageant the Christmas parade the condo gingerbread contest or, though. Michael Worth: Are you saying as a newcomer partakes in an old family or town Christmas tradition, yes that's good. Michael Worth: Because that's how the drinking card I got. Avish Parashar: yours. Michael Worth: There has to be carolyn there's absolutely Kelly, which he literally got off the bus in the movie yesterday at small town, the town was called snowy falls. Avish Parashar: Over the names, the names are always like. Avish Parashar: they're always names. Avish Parashar: Of like Christmas themes or yeah holly. Michael Worth: Man crisper with caleb Chris. Avish Parashar: Chris Chris yeah. Michael Worth: yeah yeah. Avish Parashar: that's our duck timer, but I find. Avish Parashar: Any other other. Avish Parashar: So the thing we were talking about this is getting the when we get the outline um. Avish Parashar: You know there's that turning point where they need to decide, you know which way to go. Avish Parashar: And she's so worn by the town that she kind of but oftentimes, although not always sometimes the writing is so lazy and I love it they don't even do like a great. Avish Parashar: twist like how she gets out of like her corporate versus her you know, sometimes it's just like oh no we're just going to watch the deal and that's going to be worth it like oh okay. Avish Parashar: All right, there's no way you manage to make it all work he does like okay well the screw over millions of dollars, with his business and the people are going to make the money. Michael Worth: The spirit of Christmas is okay oh and that's your thing is is the woman. Michael Worth: The protagonist is either is a bah humbug Scrooge or she's just too busy to care about Christmas but she's filled with the spirit of Christmas and the critical part of that in act three so. Avish Parashar: Yes, yes, very good and the final the final thing i'll say about this. Avish Parashar: Is the the antagonists are never fully bad they're often mismatched or misguided but they're never evil so at the end right, even the bad guys. Avish Parashar: are positive, they even even if it's even if it's like a married woman who's dumping her family, the husband's like I understand. Michael Worth: yeah yeah. Michael Worth: spineless calories. Avish Parashar: yeah but like even the corporate overlords want to buy out the small town yep. Avish Parashar: You know, often they're like you're neutral sometimes they're positive or neutral but it's never like it's never like an evil person who's just trying to crush the town and the. Avish Parashar: Western like. Michael Worth: Yes, never blazing saddles where it's like you know the bad guy, by the way, two more things and we're gonna move on, I promise there's always reference to a dead relative always. Michael Worth: protects always dead relative. Michael Worth: And it always snows at the very end because it's always Christmas Eve or. Avish Parashar: Even if it's like in Hawaii or California there's got to be so. Avish Parashar: The romance angle there's also a. Avish Parashar: Along the villain thing there's sometimes a competing love interest like another woman, but also she ends up not being bad like. Michael Worth: You know. Avish Parashar: the lot of the conflict is dropped misunderstandings like they think these two are flirting when in fact they're not but that even like when there's a rival female. Avish Parashar: That that women might even be later like look like you know you guys are so right for each other, I don't want to get in the way it's all just so like Sacconi sweet positive even the conflict is like no. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah. Michael Worth: Oh yeah I I I deliberately didn't do this because it's going to be too much work for me to do this, but when we do this in post production i'm dropping in Jingle Bells and i'm dropping in Jingle Bells on the piano all over the place in our in our podcast because it's. Avish Parashar: Everywhere right oh yeah oh yeah the theme. Avish Parashar: Music theme that all right. Avish Parashar: So yeah just real quick. Because. Avish Parashar: it's rare that we get a genre that is so obvious. Avish Parashar: But this is not even joking so when we talk about the two types of movies at those four. Avish Parashar: created a little matrix there's. Avish Parashar: Some the vertical axes, if you have. Avish Parashar: versus dramatic and then on the horizontal axis, you have supernatural or not supernatural. Michael Worth: or every day right. Avish Parashar: yeah so these like the four there's like the comedic ones where there's no supernatural element, you know, like a mix up or a small town or you know. Avish Parashar: manner yeah and then there's comedic with supernatural drama like oh this person might be Santa Claus or this person access granted a wish and then you have the same two things, with dramatic where it's like. Avish Parashar: it's got some comedy but really it's much more serious and romantic it's like more introspective but, again, sometimes you have. Michael Worth: yeah might be a guy who like gave up on Christmas, because his family died and Christmas. Michael Worth: us all back. Michael Worth: Oh yeah yeah. Avish Parashar: So supernatural versus not community, so we are going today is, we are going with comedic non supernatural right. Avish Parashar: and Avish Parashar: And you'll hear this episode a couple weeks, and if you are listening to this episode. Avish Parashar: Well, on December 7, that is, when this was going live, so if you're listening this on the day it comes out I believe tonight on December 7 we are doing a live episode go to a visa MC comm check out our episodes list there or a blog post to get the Info. Avish Parashar: But uh yeah so in any case alright that brings us now to. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: Creating the outline all right now we're going to spend about five minutes, creating a high level outline for our hallmark Christmas movie. Avish Parashar: we're going to use a four X structure where we kind of have the setup the kind of. Avish Parashar: reactive phase, the proactive phase, and then the resolution for our for act structure, and this is our starting point, we may veer from it, because it's improv comedy, but this is where we're going to use kind of as our guide so are five minutes starts now. Avish Parashar: Alright, so we often start with either a prologue or movie trailer I in for a hallmark movie I can't even imagine how to do a prologue. Avish Parashar: it's Tony. Michael Worth: Who are doing the trailer absolutely yeah yeah like I said I was watching predator last week and i'm like, how can you do a prologue duck duck duck duck duck duck. Avish Parashar: yeah exactly yeah so you watch to Christmas movies, in the last week, well done. Michael Worth: yeah exactly all right so real. Avish Parashar: Very predator Christmas. Christmas. Avish Parashar: Right so X one. Avish Parashar: X one, we have to meet the the hero or heroine. Michael Worth: If you know tiger female female female and establish your ordinary world. Michael Worth: Where. Avish Parashar: The city, the fast pace yeah. Avish Parashar: establish the stakes like why. Avish Parashar: there's almost always a promotion involves like oh. Avish Parashar: yeah do this don't get the promotion or the big deal or, though. Michael Worth: yeah yeah or the big deal or looking at the merger or whatever it's a big financial thing um and. Avish Parashar: And I say she has to go to the she goes to a small town. Michael Worth: yeah she she has to go to the small town um. Michael Worth: yeah we'll figure out why look what she should do it proactively she's building. Avish Parashar: Whether the stakes that her task is usually based around that like you had to go to a small town and convince the lodge owners to sell or you know you gotta you gotta go get rid of that dog shelter because it's in the way of our highway we're trying to build like whatever whatever. Michael Worth: were to drop that hard man, you know yeah. Avish Parashar: Exactly if she if she has because she will often have like a boyfriend that's not right right yeah, and so we got to meet that person yep. Michael Worth: But, but he does not accompany her to the small town, because the whole point is, you have to have the APP to conflict way. Avish Parashar: Exactly he'll come back for X three or four. Avish Parashar: back for like the end of act three. Michael Worth: um and she ends act one with pretty much getting to that town and that's the crossing the threshold she comes in, she goes off. Avish Parashar: Maybe eating the love interest kind of meeting you have some to get to the town alright cool. Michael Worth: Man it's like it's like you're reciting the. Michael Worth: Book saw yesterday. The. Avish Parashar: Outside is so simplistic the movies, are so simple I didn't check them out baby that's how you can check out like. Avish Parashar: This is great like like 20 years amazing. Michael Worth: Alright, so she gets an act to here's what happens she stymied to finish her job, for whatever reason. Avish Parashar: If you think there's going to be easy, but then from like the moment one like. Michael Worth: For yesterday's one the guy who she had to talk to the sign the documents was out of town for the week cuz he had done a walk about. Michael Worth: As a way to to walk about on December 22 Okay, whatever so so she's forced to acclimate to the town that's what she meets the the trials all the cast and wacky characters that are. Avish Parashar: Trying to run she has to stay she meets the cast. Avish Parashar: Particularly the love interest the mentor. Michael Worth: Now there is. Michael Worth: This is where she gets pulled unwillingly into Christmas traditions of a lighter nature, because later she uses her real world expertise to help the small town with a potentially failed Christmas tradition that's. Avish Parashar: that's what do we have Oh yes, they always uses her like Oh, I was a ballerina or my architecture skills. Avish Parashar: To help us design the gingerbread house. Michael Worth: Exactly, but in the beginning, she doesn't want anything to do with it so it's like come on we're gonna go ice skating we all escape, and then we all help build a snowman and she's gonna want to do it, you know kind of thing right. Avish Parashar: And we need to see the initial friction, but also heat between the two main characters. Michael Worth: But yes, because there's near miss kisses. Avish Parashar: Oh yes, near miss kisses. Michael Worth: She falls. Avish Parashar: should be the title for a hallmark movie. near miss. Michael Worth: You know what. Avish Parashar: Maybe we use. Avish Parashar: That may have to be. Michael Worth: near miss kiss let's do. Michael Worth: Our show near miss kitty. Avish Parashar: yeah it's still improvise we just came up with it, but near miss kiss. Avish Parashar: Oh, oh oh i'm sorry i'm sorry, they should come out of the improv. Avish Parashar: main characters last name has to be kiss. Avish Parashar: Oh, my God, yes, yes, near miss kiss it's a miss kiss but her next movies always have that double entendre. Michael Worth: Our main character is is miss. Avish Parashar: We gonna we give her whatever first name, we want, but her last name has to kiss yeah. Michael Worth: near miss kisses the title. Avish Parashar: I haven't had this much fun to my for outlines like. Avish Parashar: we've done some of our favorite movies, I love to watch this is just. Avish Parashar: This is just entertaining the hell, it is so she meets the characters she. Avish Parashar: engaged in the tradition that she's not super good at or into has some friction almost kisses that we're romantic tension and it's something has to happen at the end of that attitude shifts are. Avish Parashar: Usually there's like a moment light like the main character, the loving because of her are like on a walk and they have some interaction or some conversation which kind of starts to melt her a little bit. Avish Parashar: yeah yeah then when she wakes up the next day she kind of jumps morning to the town's kind of feel. Avish Parashar: So we get a moment is going to shift her perception of Christmas. Michael Worth: Do we am I going into detail with this is there sometimes. Michael Worth: A quiet duck with a warm too much fun. Avish Parashar: Why do that was enough time or we're going to keep going. Michael Worth: yeah yeah like the character that that might be in trouble, and she has to kind of step up to help for example yesterday there was a homeless guy and then, when the snowfall hit they had to go out and find him so he didn't freeze to death. Avish Parashar: yeah there is often someone help does bonding oftentimes it's with a kid like a lot of times the main male character has children, and then the. Avish Parashar: Female sort of bonds with them as like a motherly figure and that kind of that's kind of how the mail starts to see the woman there different way, you know she seemed all business but oh look she's really sweet um. Avish Parashar: yeah you know or May, and then the girl can other the kid can kind of serve as like a catalyst, or a matchmaker a little bit so yeah there could be like a helping thing. Avish Parashar: Now so yeah i'll just move on to act three. Avish Parashar: we're only halfway through our outline where it's five minutes. Michael Worth: So, but after is pretty easy. Michael Worth: at three is where two things are happening, which is the town is getting ready for its big Christmas celebration and there's some MP impediments. Michael Worth: And the girl is running out of time to close out what she needs to do for a company, and this is where the switch happens where the girl leverages her old knowledge by the old job new job as. Avish Parashar: Possible yeah maybe 2.0 say. Michael Worth: She she leverages her old knowledge to help with the new tradition, you know, for example, there was when I tell you it was a. Michael Worth: raffle salad raffle so she leverages her ability to fundraise to get everyone to donate stuff um conversely, this is when the boyfriend or the fiance shows up to leverage pressure to close the deal. Avish Parashar: Yes, the the original fiance or boyfriend comes back, and I would say in active The other thing happens is she helps the town and the town starts a warmer they start to trust her and they're almost ready to do what she's asking them to because they they. Avish Parashar: built that connection, and then like the boyfriend comes in and makes it worse, reveals how bad and she probably doesn't even know like oh I didn't know you're going to destroy the animal shelter, I thought you were just going to you know build around it. Avish Parashar: Right, and I would say that when there is a big Christmas tradition that in act three she's using her skills to help it, but I think the thing doesn't actually happen to like for. Michael Worth: agree because he's supposed to supposed to have left. Michael Worth: yeah he has a change of heart and that for. Avish Parashar: At the end. Avish Parashar: She does often leave at the end of act three or something something at the end of happens where everything falls apart or romance falls apart the town doesn't like her. Avish Parashar: she's often going back to stay with the fiance yep yep. Avish Parashar: Like she's like all right i'll go back with you yep. Avish Parashar: she's an act, for she has a revelation she comes running back she does the big thing She Figures out the way of saving the town and her career, or just saving the town and saying screw the career, I want to be just a small town person. Michael Worth: Exactly and she's rewarded, and she falls in love with the guy and it snows and there's an ugly sweaters and there's there's. Avish Parashar: The Dolly fade out shot that you pull. Michael Worth: Up oh God, yes, with the gorgeous lady good oh yeah. Avish Parashar: Oh, the lighting I wish we could do the light in. Michael Worth: Like we're so.oh. Avish Parashar: Alright, well, we have a nice outline
In this episode, Dan reconnects with keynote speaker, TED talker, corporate trainer, and improv podcaster Avish Parashar to stroll down memory lane and explore the benefits of an "Improv Mindset." The author of Improvise to Success and Say "Yes And!", Avish has spent decades sharing improv with business audiences as a way to discover creativity and bring about a "flow state." He and Dan dig into how improv can help us pivot, reinvent, or simply deal with change and uncertainty by teaching us how to fail with flair. We also learn about Avish's new improv podcast, In A World of Improvised Movie Homages, which really is as innovative and entertaining as it sounds.
In this episode, we pay homage to “friendly robot” movies, like Short Circuit and the Iron Giant. You know the ones, where a robot (usually military) escapes and finds its way to some nice humans who it befriends? But of course, the military people always want to get the robot back at any cost... Links Short Circuit on Wikipedia: The Iron Giant on Wikipedia: Time Codes Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 03:25 Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 09:42 Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 18:46 Start of show: 25:48 Improv Game - A to Z: 25:57 Improv Game - Pardon: 32:56 Improv Game - What Happens Next: 42:20 Improv Game - Gibberish Switch: 52:03 Improv Game - Cutting Room: 1:01:04 End of show, into announcements: 1:19:57 More Information About the Show, Mike, and Avish Subscribe to the podcast: http://AvishAndMike.com/Subscribe/ Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: segment one discussing the genre tropes right all right now Mike and I are going to spend five minutes discussing the tropes commonalities and cliches of this type of movie so i'll start our timer now. Avish Parashar: All right, mikey let's talk robot friend short circuit iron giant yeah. Avish Parashar: What do you think of when you think of these movies. Michael Worth: Well, first of all, I definitely say the tone is going to be family friendly right we'd like Well, this is not one of these, this is not like superhero hard was that one break bread burn or whatever, where it's like. Michael Worth: Oh yeah Superman was a sociopath so it's gonna be family, friends. Avish Parashar: I mean the. Avish Parashar: The genre is usually family friendly where our improvisation mego could be a whole other thing but, in general, these stories. Michael Worth: yeah family friendly reserve the right to go dark. Michael Worth: yeah i'm usually the robot oh boy there's two ways to go if you do the iron giant the robot is basically iron john is basically et. Michael Worth: So do you want to go that route, or do you want to go experiment that grew beyond the control of the creators. Avish Parashar: You know, like, I mean when I think this sort of movie I usually think of some kind of military robot that developed a conscience or escaped and accidentally got lost the programming got screwed up, so I forgot the iron giant was an alien or was actually a military or a. Michael Worth: was an alien invasion kind of tied in with the war of the worlds thing you know yeah i'm thinking more like military experiment or science experiment that kind of grows beyond is creators it's kind of like a there's a Frankenstein component to it right yeah. Avish Parashar: Nice Frankenstein like. Avish Parashar: The monster like. Michael Worth: Right well Mary shelley's Frankenstein originally was highly intelligent That was the whole. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah yeah you like talking it's conversational very philosophical at times it's very weird. Michael Worth: yeah yeah so so that that's a good way to start it, which is like it starts yeah because usually it's a comment on like the military industrial complex in the research thing. Avish Parashar: So, and then yeah. Avish Parashar: So okay yeah so the robot either escapes or gets left behind, as abandoned and then is found by. Michael Worth: Do this call it's a kid I always found a kid. Avish Parashar: Well, you know, a kid or Steve Gutenberg. Michael Worth: Is there is there a difference. Avish Parashar: Okay, it or it's like someone innocent like a child or someone who's like very kind of like positive optimistic. Avish Parashar: You know, maybe a little naive. Michael Worth: Well, and that's the central trope which is they see beyond the exterior because the whole point is that the machine is usually very unsettling to look at or or you know kind of frightening it and then this person is kind of like sees it to me that was it le shady who found him. Avish Parashar: yeah I was actually shooting and Steve Steve guttenberg like was the scientists right like actually like Steve like took the robot because he didn't want it weaponized or something. Avish Parashar: Oh that's a, this is a fantasy they do Steve guttenberg is a scientist. Avish Parashar: And there is like that yeah sometimes it's like the scientists are there's like a good person inside who like helps the robot escape and sometimes it just kind of gets. Michael Worth: lost yeah so so let's drill down somebody starts using core characters there's gonna be some side of sympathetic scientist because, even if its military or some sort of military create a program or a scientist is. Avish Parashar: You as sympathetic scientist right. Avish Parashar: there's obviously some kind of. Avish Parashar: Seville there's almost always like a military overlord like. Michael Worth: That guy yeah the villains good basically the military person either either who's in charge of the project or has been like Colonel Decker and the team assigned to bring him back. Avish Parashar: yeah it's like the person is real yeah. Avish Parashar: The one who really wants to weaponize this thing doesn't care that it's developing a personality. Michael Worth: lots of good point so they don't bring it back, they want to bring back and like convert it back to its evil mode. Michael Worth: yeah so the villain. Michael Worth: wants to convert. Michael Worth: Back to evil mode right yeah we're kind of moving the iron john a little bit, but that's okay well, these are just germination ideas there's definitely a sympathetic scientist, whoever finds the robot becomes his best friend so it's a boy and his dog kind of thing. Michael Worth: yeah and that that that finding person has to be an innocent and is usually. Michael Worth: The robot becomes the protector. Avish Parashar: yeah. Michael Worth: Of the best friend right. Avish Parashar: yeah and then. Avish Parashar: These movies always have two things one is the. Avish Parashar: Learning montage sequence, where the robot is learning the ways of humans yeah. Michael Worth: I like. Michael Worth: Learning montages in. Avish Parashar: And then there's. Michael Worth: Also, the company with a phil collen song. Avish Parashar: is almost always that like sad kind of end of the third act going to the fourth act. Where. Avish Parashar: The robot gets recaptured, or something right like. Michael Worth: Well yeah you're right now, the question is this there's two ways, it could go one is the robot gets recaptured, they have to like break them out right that's kind of an et thing and i'm doing eating, not because. Michael Worth: that's what happens yeah more the robot. Michael Worth: Like somehow people get betrayed by the robot or they like turn their back on the robot they're like oh you, you really are just an inhuman monster and. Avish Parashar: yeah or like they think they're doing a good thing, like no like we got to get your back, and then they realize oh that's when they realize that oh my God no they're gonna like. Avish Parashar: use this for evil, like the humans get bamboozled by the military person, you know they think that person's positive and helpful, but they turn out actually. Avish Parashar: yeah those are like a tearful breakup like. Avish Parashar: What they're really sad. Avish Parashar: Because they betrayed the robot the robot is getting taken away. Avish Parashar: All right, then. Michael Worth: And then act for there's the the. Michael Worth: Well, you could be a lot of ways here the the best friends can kidnap the robot has to break them out the roebuck kidnapped, they can break the robot out, however, one critical things that happens is the robot somehow cleverly uses. Michael Worth: Its original programming and or original technology in a creative way to demonstrate its independence and get out from under the evil military overlord. Avish Parashar: Right and I was that combination of like their original and kind of what they've learned, you know it's like right they learn something watching a TV show, and so, then they use that later on to like yeah kind of. Avish Parashar: yeah beats the new world like yes. Michael Worth: Whenever the learning montage is. Avish Parashar: That gets tied back into the. Michael Worth: tie back into the fourth act yeah yeah yeah. Avish Parashar: Alright, so that's five minutes we got enough tropes you then care, I think so. Michael Worth: I think, so this is a couple of different ways, this is kind of cool. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: Alright, so segment two: creating the outline next was spent about five minutes, creating a rough high level outline for the movie. Avish Parashar: When we get into actually performing the show it may veer from what original outline is because it's improv and you never know where it's gonna go, but we we roughly state of this and we like to use what. Avish Parashar: We use a four act structure if you're familiar with storytelling you're probably familiar with a three act structure, ours is very similar issues we break act to interact, two and three. Michael Worth: is actually these. Avish Parashar: shorter do anyways yeah and then we act like the reactive we're trying to figure out and act three is the. Avish Parashar: proactive and then I for is the conclusion alright. Michael Worth: Well, where are we taking notes, we taking notes in the show script and outline. Avish Parashar: I know in in that folder the dated folder in the long form improv show there's a prep dogs and game ideas for test run number 11. Michael Worth: Alright, a. Avish Parashar: To run the long form improv. Michael Worth: yep 2021 611. Michael Worth: yeah prepped up for test from 11. Avish Parashar: yeah so we'll take. Michael Worth: It okay hold on suddenly it all set up and then we'll go back in so these we're going to take notes for for our show all right and. Avish Parashar: Alright, so a word start our five minutes timer now. Michael Worth: Great so first one do prologue or trailer what do we think it. Avish Parashar: could go either way. Michael Worth: I don't know tell you what let's let's skip that let's go there, I. Avish Parashar: will decide that later. Avish Parashar: yeah alright so act one. Avish Parashar: During act one, we need to establish. Avish Parashar: The robot. Michael Worth: yep establish the robot and the robot at this point I want to say disappears, but like is misplaced right. Avish Parashar: yeah kind of how he is misplaced disappears. Avish Parashar: robot. Avish Parashar: Whatever happens, so we had a. Michael Worth: friend right. Avish Parashar: yeah we gotta get them the best friend the kind of human protagonist and will also need a we should meet like the main military antagonist here like whoever's in charge of the project. Avish Parashar: Like you, almost always meet that person before you even meet the hero because they're like the one who's like evil and wants to control the robot. Michael Worth: Right, so it Let me read some stuff down to robot is very harmless emotionally but potentially physically dangerous, and that is going to be comedic physical comedy and sue's you know what I mean. Avish Parashar: yeah. Michael Worth: All right, and then we meet the. Michael Worth: meet evil military that guy. Michael Worth: yeah basically the Colonel Decker. Michael Worth: Alright cool and uh at one usually ends with the best friend. Michael Worth: Taking robot home. Michael Worth: yeah and hiding him. Michael Worth: Alright Act two okay. Avish Parashar: So this definitely will have like the learning. Michael Worth: Learning montage. Michael Worth: Both training robots social skills. Michael Worth: and developing friendship. Michael Worth: Okay, a second is. Michael Worth: What could happen here is is, if you want to get a little goonies the best friend could bring small small group of small tribe in or her small tribe in and they all kind of like gang up to help the robot things like that right. Avish Parashar: yeah we could meet some other people, I feel like with this format, maybe like bring in one person, and I feel like anytime you start getting with these shows if you're talking too many characters it gets a little unwieldy but yeah he could kind of introduce. Avish Parashar: The friend. Michael Worth: Oh, if you want to go that way, we could maybe have the friend be like a little bit of a kind of a nerdy like nerdy nerdy make nerds team, and you know kind of like help program the robot help interact with. Avish Parashar: It could be a nerd It could also be a love interest for the main character right. Michael Worth: yeah yeah at this point also is the detective portion of the military overlord so they are figuring out where the robot went. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah Terry researcher kind of. Avish Parashar: detective work. Michael Worth: I don't know if I want to get too big into this, but. Michael Worth: This could be also where you under you the robot could have a doomsday device. Avish Parashar: yeah it's got I feel like some level of danger either the robot has a doom. Avish Parashar: Excuse a device or there's some like external threat that needs to be addressed in the fourth act um, so I think there's some bigger danger we find out about. Michael Worth: yeah I looked at, possibly an external threat. Michael Worth: that's possible or. Avish Parashar: It could be like a self destruct doomsday or yeah it's like a robot you know, like the. Avish Parashar: If there's like in the 80s and, like the Russians are also trying to. Michael Worth: get in. Avish Parashar: Our own robot are getting yeah there's like a third faction. Avish Parashar: that's trying to. Michael Worth: Get the robot this is good, this is getting it looks surprisingly deep in terms of like factions and things like that uh. Avish Parashar: Alright, so. Michael Worth: So then actually an x four, I was just gonna play out. Avish Parashar: I think act three is where i'm. Avish Parashar: I think X three is again the heroes usually more proactive and act three, so I think there. Avish Parashar: Oh, I I think Okay, I think here's a rough outline so there's a third faction and act three the hero, and the robot they're like actively trying to get away from that third faction, and maybe trying to reconnect with the military arm. Avish Parashar: And that's when like the betrayal happens because when they think they're safe oh yeah we got away from the Russians and then they realize oh yeah the military is going to destroy this robot or use it for evil purpose or wipe his memory. Avish Parashar: So then act for becomes like the oh now i'm going to go and rescue my robot friend, so the, no one can use them for these kind of evil purposes. Michael Worth: yeah yeah rescue robot friend yeah like that I know we're starting to drill down a little bit and we're making the story a bit more strict but, like, I actually like having this guideline because we because I was a little worried, as we go five different ways and. Avish Parashar: I think, having a stricter outline and then having the freedom to not stick to it at all, once we get in there. Michael Worth: I mean. Michael Worth: yeah we reserve the right to have everything up with our improv. Avish Parashar: I think we've got the third faction X two X three is more like proactive stopping the third faction are getting away. Avish Parashar: reconnecting with the military arm and it ends with them kind of turning the robot back over to the military. Avish Parashar: And realizing that oh like that was a mistake. Michael Worth: yeah a target of the military to be trade rescue robot friend X force rescue robot friend and then a critical part of X, for his robot has agency, meaning it blends its purpose with what it learned. Avish Parashar: Oh, and this might be more granular. Avish Parashar: But then so i'm gonna have an act for is the. Avish Parashar: The third faction kidnaps, the main character and or his friends and then the robot has to escape from the military to. Avish Parashar: EU and the remote robot realizes like all these are my friends and start to understand the concept of friendship and going like. Avish Parashar: friend yeah exactly. Michael Worth: yeah that could work yeah let's put it down i'll put down possible. Michael Worth: Third faction kidnaps. Avish Parashar: Friends, and we have to see what the robot we see what the robot has learned in the fourth act. Michael Worth: All right, and then and then at the end of the road is agency blends its purpose with what I learned from montage to defeat. Michael Worth: bad guys. Michael Worth: yeah and kind of prove now I like the idea of like prove its need to leave the military. Michael Worth: I like the idea of the military being like I didn't I didn't see that robot leave. Michael Worth: kind of thing right yeah and then you know, then, and then, of course. Avish Parashar: Maybe the main military bad guy like gets taken away and the others are like. Avish Parashar: Oh it's a shame the robot you know blew up. Michael Worth: blow open that fire yeah. Michael Worth: And then the ending is like in bolt where it's like the family, you know happy family sitting in a ranch somewhere in Montana right he's the ruler chillin out and i'm. Avish Parashar: Sorry now. Michael Worth: Now we haven't done intro trailer prologue prologues fitting it for this. Avish Parashar: evening prologue for this one so we'll see kind of what happens to the. Michael Worth: yeah because prologue could could probably do one or two things it could have to introduce the robot getting built or can induce a third faction as a cold lead. Avish Parashar: Okay yeah I think our prologue. Avish Parashar: All right, yeah. Avish Parashar: One of those oh yeah i'm not sure which one. Michael Worth: Was that a bad yeah or a good yeah. Avish Parashar: it's a i'm not sure which one is better like to actually see the robot like being built and talked about. Avish Parashar: Or to see the third probably the robot I would think so that's kind of the main character, but. yeah. Avish Parashar: All right, good so. Avish Parashar: We have our high low outline now. Michael Worth: This is good, we can do something with this.
In this episode, we pay homage to one of both of our favorite movies, Aliens! Along with so many other sci-fi action horror movies. We mention this at the top of the episode, but this is one of our very early episodes back when we just doing “test runs” to develop the show. At the time we weren't even sure we would use the audio, but we liked the finished product so here it is! It may not have the same flow, banter, or polish of some of our more recent episodes, but it's a ton of fun and we think you will enjoy it! Links Aliens on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliens_(film) Time CodesSegment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 04:31 Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 09:39 Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games:15:38 Start of show: 21:51 Improv Game - Blind Offers: 23:00 Improv Game - Rashomon: 30:20 Improv Game - Sound Effects: 41:27 Improv Game - Tempo: 47:30 End of show, into announcements: 53:11 More Information About the Show, Mike, and Avish Subscribe to the podcast: http://AvishAndMike.com/Subscribe/ Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: Discussing the tropes. Michael Worth: Yes, and and give me one second here i'm gonna i'm gonna do something really look, this is where I get where we would do stuff like this, give me one SEC here i'm going to replace the Multi yes, yes, yes it's the puzzle, and because so you'd be like this and now segment one you know. Michael Worth: Like that stupid stuff right that kind of like reality TV crap so. Avish Parashar: Alright, so we're gonna spend at most five minutes talking about kind of the key tropes from a high level that that. Avish Parashar: This kind of genre usually has so go trump's. Michael Worth: So, first of all these kind of movies, especially to the alien predator hardened batch of qualified military personnel. Avish Parashar: hardened. Avish Parashar: Qualified so it's not just like. Avish Parashar: Random Joe nobody could own, and these are like military people. Right. Michael Worth: Right. Michael Worth: A lot of you like a starship troopers would fall into this as well, like. Michael Worth: people to be great for this yeah the second tier characters. Michael Worth: A have a fun kind of not not pasties what is it a nice when you're like I was doing a caricature have a fun character your character mature. Avish Parashar: over the top stereotype yeah the kind of caricature ish really. Michael Worth: You know, not in a funny way they've got like one asset that's their thing right, you know. Avish Parashar: they're very yeah they're clearly defined in one specific ways yeah. Michael Worth: clearly defined okay in one specific way cool uh they almost always go into a particular event they're prepared for and then get surprised by the real event does. Avish Parashar: They yeah. Avish Parashar: they're prepared for one event. Avish Parashar: But are surprised and woefully unprepared for what. Michael Worth: woefully overwhelmed yeah prized. Michael Worth: paired or the real event that occurs right. Avish Parashar: Obviously the villain is in these are some kind of alien either individual and predator alien conglomerate species. Michael Worth: yep yep yep give me a SEC i'm doing pull point bullet points here on this. Michael Worth: yeah boom Okay, the the. Michael Worth: villain is obviously an alien now now sometimes there is a second tier villain and the second year villain is member of the team with. Avish Parashar: Like the turncoat the opportunistic turncoat the riser character. Michael Worth: yeah or the or the Carl weathers character, who may or may not have a good turn at the end right. Avish Parashar: Right yeah so there's like. Michael Worth: weathers was the weather's was a CIA plant in predator. Avish Parashar: that's i'd say there's usually some internal villain. Michael Worth: yeah so head villain is the monster slash alien again Leviathan. Michael Worth: yeah you know. Avish Parashar: funny there's usually someone on the inside, who either maybe like an abyss where it's Michael bane who's like the villain he he didn't start out as a villain but it kind of goes crazy from paranoia and the water pressure so yeah but someone on the team eventually causes problems. Michael Worth: Right is a troublemaker slash. Michael Worth: ulterior motive funny enough of the abyss actually turns the trope on its head, because the Aliens are the good guys or they're they're the they're actually The next step of evolution. Avish Parashar: Right yeah so they what you think of the bad guys become. Avish Parashar: The good guy as an internal villains, the only villain. Avish Parashar: right along those lines. Avish Parashar: Pretty almost the entire supporting cast dies by the. Michael Worth: Research that lots of carnage. Avish Parashar: And lots of Carnegie hall expendable. Avish Parashar: You know, you may the main character, usually lives and maybe one or two others live, but basically oh there's almost always a some random innocence non military person is like one non military like newt or the female and predator. Avish Parashar: yeah yeah the observer, who comes in, is just like oh i'm just here to like you know, make sure everyone's doing well and that person gets sucked in. Michael Worth: yep yep yep and then okay now now fun for like like just little bits of trivia because it's a hard group of time travel time tested soldiers they're always referencing earlier battles they thought in that that's that's the thing it'll show up you know. Michael Worth: The basic put the party is old friends and and have. Avish Parashar: That history ago. Michael Worth: Memories yeah many battle memories together right so that that's kind of things, because sometimes it's like mission impossible to were assembling was team and they may not have worked together know these guys are like old. Avish Parashar: yeah and. Avish Parashar: What else village, the hero usually has. Avish Parashar: some kind of clever outwitting type thing. Michael Worth: About said here uses ingenuity to defeat the. Michael Worth: to defeat the monster. Avish Parashar: yeah so not just like oh i'm just gonna punch you to death, the morale like oh i'm gonna cover myself in mud, so you can't see me or i'm going to get. Avish Parashar: The front loader and find you and blow you out the airlock and. Michael Worth: dude that's if I can improvise a moment as good as when ripley walks in with the exoskeleton, though. Michael Worth: People were like oh just took a female female strong female heroes like you could watch that eight seconds and aliens. Michael Worth: And that's that right there. Avish Parashar: Your argument yeah. Michael Worth: pretty well any anything else, and is a lots lots of action scenes are big, the emphasis is. Avish Parashar: yeah lots of action which action. Avish Parashar: scene improv comedy audio podcast maybe a little bit tougher to pull off, but hey that's the challenge. Avish Parashar: alright. Avish Parashar: So we're just about out of time with that. Avish Parashar: Because we a lot of tropes there were probably will get all of them in there. Avish Parashar: Alright, so now. Avish Parashar: You don't you. Avish Parashar: Know transition music you like. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: to creating the outline alright, so now we're gonna spend five minutes coming up with our for act structure we use it for X structure which basically is your typical react, but we break Act two into two parts, so we have a for extractor sometimes with a prologue. Michael Worth: and glad you said that because it, because sometimes we say we say at one through 41 of the three structures we have. Avish Parashar: To explain that. Avish Parashar: um and yeah we're just gonna kind of go with the general outline, which often by the time we perform it will change what this is we're not gonna get to deepen specifics, but all right let's start with the outline. Avish Parashar: So. Michael Worth: I don't think we need a prologue. Avish Parashar: I think we're Okay, we don't uh yeah we don't we don't most these movies don't use to have one, it could be something where you see. Avish Parashar: The monster villain do something, but I think for now let's say we don't need one, maybe, by the time you get to the end of the outline will say Oh, we could use more but act one in the first act, this is the setup and introduction so. Avish Parashar: We need to meet the team yep. Avish Parashar: And then. Michael Worth: If the meet the team, and then they get their assignment. Avish Parashar: They get their assignment. Michael Worth: Now, at this point, a do that to two people are oftentimes introduced one is the person who knows about the assignment if you plan to aliens came but currently shows up it's like look, you know, this is what we know about this. Avish Parashar: Year. Michael Worth: we're going into the specialist and two is the corp tagalog or the or the or the. Avish Parashar: bad guy basically like. Avish Parashar: Attacking the car whether children, yes, I think the hero we're gonna meet the here on the internal villain in this act, I mean we'll meet everyone, but really we're going to establish the hero in the internal villain yep um. Michael Worth: And we've had the heroes going to have some some element of knowledge and or skill that is pertinent this to the to the perceived mission. Avish Parashar: yeah all right, and then I think based on these happen is, we need to have some kind of sequence, and at the end of the act is when. Avish Parashar: They I think in act one is where they kind of go out on their mission at the end of act one is, we could totally hosed and like oh that didn't work at all, I think. Michael Worth: Social interactions out on the mission Oh, and a little more granular This is where the bread, that the seeds drop that there's something wrong like like one or two encounters where. Michael Worth: Things don't look right that's because you want to start seeing it where it's like we saw that aliens are gonna look with pillows go on the walls i'm like you know, and then they write they start to see that they start seeing. Michael Worth: Right, this is not. Michael Worth: Right ends with them encountering something. Avish Parashar: Is the first encounter with the monster. Michael Worth: or alien light a monster or or monster and and they're out of their league right. Avish Parashar: yeah alright so that's act one so now act two is when they're basically just trying to survive. Michael Worth: yeah at to probably starts with them escaping the imminent hosing yep and there's. Avish Parashar: A whole thing. Michael Worth: yeah because they're because they're getting pounded right. Avish Parashar: hey like regroup and settle in. Avish Parashar: yep. Michael Worth: How granular how granular you want to get here, usually at this point, they have. Michael Worth: Usually, at this point, they have now gone from having. Michael Worth: Lots of control and being lots of equipment to like being on low resources overwhelmed you know that, in terms of what well that'll i'll just come out yeah that'll come out. Avish Parashar: yeah alright so basically Act two is them responding to the threat trying to survive trying to get to a safe place. Avish Parashar: Trying to gather the resources and just being trying to figure out what the hell is going on. Michael Worth: yeah. Avish Parashar: So that X three is where they start launching the counter plan, like all right here's what we're gonna do. Michael Worth: No actually that to they also learn as much as they can about the monsters right. Michael Worth: This is the beginning of active exact exact three usually act 2.5 which call it a three right three. Michael Worth: You begin to two things happen, they begin to hatch a plan to escape. Michael Worth: And or destroy the monsters mm hmm the other portion is the trader puts his plan into action. Avish Parashar: Right, the trader reveal self by doing something. Michael Worth: Right now there's a couple ways that actually can go full fail partial success full fail is they only caught our successes things like the civilian like get kidnapped write these. Avish Parashar: Down I think act three is going to end with like the oh shit things went from bad to worse, like our plan is progressing or failed, but now yeah i'd say, by the end of act three like most people are dead um. Michael Worth: yeah like a small core left to do a. Avish Parashar: Small or left you know, like it was just really basically. yeah. Avish Parashar: Just marveled right for the whole third act so. Avish Parashar: yeah basically everything the trader has their reveal basic everyone gets wiped out and now it's left with just the hero, and the villain for the most part, maybe a couple other characters. Michael Worth: yeah the here, I wanted to supporting character. Avish Parashar: yeah that's darkest hour a week. Avish Parashar: yeah i'm all by myself and the hero, the. Avish Parashar: alien has the one innocent person, and you know i'm on my own, and I gotta figure out how to beat this monster yeah. Michael Worth: So an act for the heroes adapt their plan. Michael Worth: and start to execute they have to say, less people right, and they have. Avish Parashar: You got planned or come up with a completely new one. yeah. Avish Parashar: And I got to figure out a way, and then the final confrontation yep. Michael Worth: And yeah exactly and then it's a final computation. Michael Worth: And that is in three little bits rescue anyone. Michael Worth: Different defeat or or or not delay, but like hold off mm hmm. Avish Parashar: But yeah it'll basically. Michael Worth: yeah big battle and then escape escape. Avish Parashar: or victory victory. Michael Worth: Oh yeah and more victory, so they could they can actually when they can actually do something with a like you know. Avish Parashar: All right, great, and that was our five minute mark so perfect. Michael Worth: We actually pretty much up five minutes. Avish Parashar: yeah, just as you were saying, the last thing that time went off so. Michael Worth: Oh, my God we're. Avish Parashar: So musical transition yes. Michael Worth: Give me a second give me give us access to just working with the volume here, here it is musical transition here we go.
Improv is the art of saying, “Yes, and …" but when it comes to even thinking about it, so many of us say, “No way!” And that's unfortunate because no matter how well you plan, things will go wrong, surprises will arise, and the universe will throw you a curveball. Consequently, your success — and sanity — are directly related to how you respond to these challenges. In this episode, Avish Parashar shows you how you can add more creativity and humor to your talks, ultimately helping you bring audience engagement to new heights, and of course, keeping you nimble so you can face the inevitable surprises that arise when presenting. Takeaways - How learning improv can help you relax and reduce the fear of being judged - Taking people on an emotional journey - How to add emotion when speaking about non-emotion content - How being vulnerable helps you connect with your audience - How embarrassing moments can become your best stories - How to get started in improv Resources AvishParashar.com AvishAndMike.com
About This Episode In this episode, we pay homage to The Planet of the Apes with special guest Rick Horner. Rick is a huge fan of The Planet of the Apes franchise (maybe not so much the Tim Burton one…) so it was the perfect movie for us to use as out starting point. Three astronauts find themselves stranded on a planet ruled by giant iguanas and they must use all their skills to escape and survive. Will they make it? Will they find allies? Will the human race survive? Listen to the episode to find out! About Rick: Improv Incubator: https://www.facebook.com/PhillyImprovIncubator Bright Inventions: https://brightinvention.org/ Vintage Improv Festival: https://vintageimprov.org/ Links: Planet of the Apes on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes Time Codes: Introduce our Guest, Rick Horner: 02:05 Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 11:32 Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 21:57 Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 30:15 Start of show: 37:36 Improv Game: Limerick + Movie Trailer - 39:23 Improv Game: 2-Word Story Typewriter - 41:52 Improv Game: Monologues and Tempo - 53:00 Improv Game: Newsroom - 59:54 Improv Game: Cutting Room: 1:08:49 End of show, into announcements: 1:22:52 More Information About the Show, Mike, and Avish Subscribe to the podcast: http://AvishAndMike.com/Subscribe/ Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: segment one discussing the tropes alright, so now we're going to spend about five minutes discussing the tropes cliches and commonalities of. Avish Parashar: The planet of the apes movies, I have my five minute timer which quacks like a duck at the end, and here we go rick's if you are a guest, and this is your area of expertise, what do you what's the first couple things that come to mind when you think of planet of the apes. Rick Horner (he/him): Alright, so planet of the apes for me divides clearly using the TIM Burton movie as a stop gap between them and not counting as an actual movie. Rick Horner (he/him): There are five original movies, and then there are three new movies, so if we wanted to talk about classic planet of the apes today, and then in a future episode, I could come back and we could talk about the new trilogy that'd be sweet way to you know sort of. Michael Worth: come on board that's a great yeah we can talk about Andy Serkis at another time. Avish Parashar: Or we can do, one of the sequels like the battles, the wars, the. Avish Parashar: Maybe stick with like kind of the original okay there's also a whole cartoon series based on so we. Rick Horner (he/him): Just watched it. Michael Worth: i've watched it it's good it's really good. Avish Parashar: All right, so what do you think of with them with that original movie and series. Rick Horner (he/him): So the things that I love the most about the planet of the apes are that, in the first movie there are such master strokes of genius but by the fifth one we get to such a humdrum Murray sludge. Rick Horner (he/him): That it really looks like it runs the gamut and I think most people feel that way about the movies, I love them all, so I feel like i'm. Rick Horner (he/him): i'm okay with saying the things that I don't like about them, because I love them all ultimately right, so the one of the things was that they had a. Rick Horner (he/him): Pretty expansive for the time budget for the makeup and the costumes and the first movie but by the time they got to the fifth one they were reusing things and they were yeah I mean honestly even. Michael Worth: Lower grade. Michael Worth: Lower grade rubber on the on the mask. Rick Horner (he/him): yeah totally so So the first thing I think about is it's so interesting to me that this was a movie that was conceived and there was literally nothing else like it that had ever transpired before and that john chambers, who did the makeup for the movies. Rick Horner (he/him): came to making movie magic making making the apes, because he had been in the military and was creating prosthetics for soldiers that's how we came upon this whole idea of. Rick Horner (he/him): Like i'm going to make these you know different creations for the faces, so I think for me it's so interesting that that he was interested in making sure that the actors performance came through. Rick Horner (he/him): The making so wasn't makeup meant to disguise it was makeup that was meant to you know to sort of like bulk up the performance kind of thing which, again I don't think i'd ever had before. Rick Horner (he/him): So that's first thing is that you know yeah you can't you got to talk about the mockups and all that kind of stuff and then the second thing I think about is how much. Rick Horner (he/him): really interesting social commentary is all wound into the five movies there's definitely a lot of talk about racism and the idea of intelligence, because the it's it's the those that speak and those that don't speak conversation, which is ultimately like you don't speak my language. Rick Horner (he/him): You know, but, but so, so I think that for the time they got away with talking about like they talked about. Rick Horner (he/him): Having a bomb and should we use the bomb or not a whole bunch of things that were happening in the world that nobody was really talking about, because you really kind of couldn't talk about huh. Avish Parashar: yep yep so I guess not speak the language like it was you know phobia to me that was like obviously racism was we're already here but there's enough phobia like to speak our language and the world was much more closed off place. Michael Worth: And another thing to think about going with that rick is that when these astronauts come back or these these in this kind of thing the fact that they're not behaving according to the societal expectation is what throws the whole side of this cast because it's a very rigid. Michael Worth: Again it's a caste system it's not like oh my God, there are these people that can actually they're humans that can actually speak what an amazing thing it's like what what's wrong, this is this is. Michael Worth: This is destroying our carefully conceived pyramid of social you know struggle, I mean if I remember correctly, the rank of tanks, the chimpanzees and gorillas are the three races and they're like. Rick Horner (he/him): yeah. Michael Worth: they're like it's like it's like brave new world it's like you're the scientist, you are the soldiers you're the craftsman right so. Avish Parashar: So that's. Avish Parashar: awesome and let's talk a little bit about then kind of characters and plot points, because this is kind of the This is like a world of the the movie. Avish Parashar: But we do our characters main character speakers who were kind of some of the the common or the kind of the cliched characters you have in a movie like this. Rick Horner (he/him): So the way they set up the caste system, the rank of tags are the are the law providers the chimpanzees are the scientists and the apes, are the military or the soldiers. Avish Parashar: Right and when I said cast i'm in cast without an e so like the cast of characters. Michael Worth: Although that's. Avish Parashar: that's good to know. Avish Parashar: Like you. Michael Worth: like this has to be because it's such a weird world that if you don't have a society that the audience can hook onto there'll be like all right now. Michael Worth: And as a society that makes no sense. Rick Horner (he/him): You don't mean so you have to like you have to be really rigid with it, which is true. Avish Parashar: All right, that's our timer but let's get a little let's make sure we have some because this is where we're going to use for our outline so let's get some of the plot points and character information. Avish Parashar: it's fun man. yeah. Michael Worth: that's my take on it. Avish Parashar: Alright, so let's talk i'm characters so who are some of the key characters in this type of movie the arc types of stuff. Rick Horner (he/him): OK, so the architect archetype human character is Taylor, who is a person that was sort of self cast off from his current society, so it was a perfect person to you know go and explore. Avish Parashar: yeah so there's a bit of an outcast already. Rick Horner (he/him): he's a bit of an outcast already. Avish Parashar: yeah okay and he's always very like man, we you know it's called to heston mark wahlberg yeah it goes much, but you know. Avish Parashar: more like a different level of the movie so it's like. Avish Parashar: um and then story wise we're getting. Avish Parashar: there's there's always like a love interest right like whether it actually leads anything or not there's like a sympathetic female character. Rick Horner (he/him): So what they did with the female role in the movie is that they created an air leak in side of the capsule that brought them there, so their lieutenant who's a female. Rick Horner (he/him): is dead before the movie ever begins, so they don't have to do any sort of like there's another human here, so I can explain the plot by talking to this person because she's already pre dead before the movie you know even starts. Rick Horner (he/him): But they do mention that she is supposed to be the eve of this journey, so the idea is that all three of the men are going to recreate society with this one woman, which had escaped me, for many years and was. Michael Worth: that's kind of grim. Rick Horner (he/him): Reaper dark. Avish Parashar: I didn't get to rewatch has been a long time since i've seen the original. Avish Parashar: um is there a an eight character, because they're whether it's female love it or not, there's always like apes there's a couple apes, who are sympathetic with the as and whatnot is kind of sympathetic right. Rick Horner (he/him): Yes, zero and cornelius are the two doctors and. Rick Horner (he/him): zero. Rick Horner (he/him): is definitely in my opinion, this definitely the star of the movie it's Kim hunter absolutely the star of the movie she sympathetic to taylor's plate because. Rick Horner (he/him): She has been studying these you know quote specimens her whole life and she's never encountered anybody, like him, so at first she's fascinated by him because he's an interesting specimen, but I do think there's there's, certainly in the. Rick Horner (he/him): plot, but maybe didn't make it into the movie there's definitely a lot of romantic subtext. Avish Parashar: Okay. Michael Worth: Oh yeah oh yeah is it is it, this one, where he kisses her. Rick Horner (he/him): Oh yeah yeah yeah there's there's a. Michael Worth: Human on. Avish Parashar: Which is like in 1968 whatever is like the metaphor for the interracial kiss, which is a big. Michael Worth: star trek already didn't you know, sending a one off right. Avish Parashar: should be no more interracial kiss I didn't want. Avish Parashar: Any anything else that like plot wise, because obviously they get there's like the discovery phase they're trying to figure out what's going on, they get captured. Avish Parashar: And then there's escape and then usually the end there's some kind of like revolt or fighting back right is that kind of like the overall structure of the story goes. Rick Horner (he/him): yeah I think it's basically like I would say the overall like sort of inciting action is that. Rick Horner (he/him): Man is in the situation where he is quote against ape but ultimately it's man who's truly defeating himself throughout the whole. Rick Horner (he/him): entirety of the movies, like all of the reasons why things didn't work society are all squarely on men's shoulders, not the apes. Rick Horner (he/him): But the apes want to believe that they were first and so their civilization is rocked by the idea that, like Oh, you know we were once. Rick Horner (he/him): owned or put in a zoo or you know, whatever by humans, but these guys yeah but the humans are the reason why society completely failed, which is kind of like yeah I could I could see that. Rick Horner (he/him): From here. Michael Worth: But yeah yeah so and I mean i'm the well the next part of it, but it's more about a when we get to the actual beats of the access stuff like that. Avish Parashar: Alright, have a good list of kind of information and. Michael Worth: it's working nearly it's really like like rick said it's really like this really cool a good SCI fi it's creating an interesting social commentary by mapping out of some really cool What if statements it's a lot of what planet of the apes are. Michael Worth: And let's also finally not forget once again getting shoved shoved under the bus but Jerry Goldsmith score to planet of the apes, which, to quote. Michael Worth: Henry man CD scared the hell out of the rest of us in Hollywood because it was a super avant garde. Michael Worth: Anybody who knows anything about film scores knows that's like one of the seminal scores of jerry's career it like influenced SCI fi horror, for years, and he got nominated and didn't win for the Lord. Avish Parashar: Well we're all happy that john Williams was not available. Avish Parashar: genre. Avish Parashar: truck discussion so that brings us to. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: All right now we are going to spend about five minutes hashing out a high level outline we use a four act structure for our outline we did like a three act structure. Avish Parashar: But we break it into two parts, the first half being a little more reactive figuring things out second half, being more proactive. Avish Parashar: And this is the outline we're going to start with, we use it as kind of a guide but it's improv comedy so we may completely abandon it or veer off of it so we'll see how it goes. Avish Parashar: yeah i'll set my and I looked really quickly, I could not find an ape sound or a monkey sound when the timer goes off so we're sticking with the. Avish Parashar: dog timer and here. Michael Worth: So i'll start off by just going real well, we can expand upon an act one is pretty easy it's going to be establishing the fish out of water So whoever our heroes, are going to be on this alien planet or this alien place. Michael Worth: And they're just exploring it passively an act one will probably end with them being captured by what the new dominant species, whatever it is that's a pretty. Michael Worth: Because that's how plan of the apes work, it was a lot of them exploring and then they got all got captured and then that was it we're not alone, and not only we're not alone but we're not the dominant species so that's my take on that one how close, am I love it. Avish Parashar: yeah sounds good lot of exploration and learning, maybe encountering some eight and then one thing we talked about the tropes um. Avish Parashar: who and what is the villain like usually the head of the apes, or like the second in command of the apes is like a real deck. Avish Parashar: hates humans so that's basically who's going to be a villain we may or may not meet them in act one probably maybe during the capture scene, but somewhere soon will meet them. Michael Worth: Either the military leader would be one of the head bad guys or there's three, it could be so you got to pick the military leader could be head scientist because he's a mega maniacal or the actual governmental leader, because they represent a threat to his. Avish Parashar: New World yeah and I think that can come out they. Avish Parashar: Were the problem. Michael Worth: I mean, I wish I could be more specific, but those are kind of the big three right it's not like Joe random Gardner he's like I hate this human. Avish Parashar: I mean. Avish Parashar: It could be. Michael Worth: Exactly. Avish Parashar: Alright, so act do, then so we've ended Act was that we've captured. Avish Parashar: So what what do we need to have happen in Act two of our story. Michael Worth: So right now we don't have any we're going to have this but they're all captured and. Avish Parashar: They need to this is where I think one thing happens the hero starts making connections with the species sympathetic apes like that's you know they like stick him some food is are talking and listening and building relationships yeah. Michael Worth: um he also started to discover more about how this society works, so he started to get into the understanding of the various. Rick Horner (he/him): forces at play and things like that um right like in beneath it becomes evident that the apes feel like their food sources being depleted by the humans and that's the reason why they want to invade. Rick Horner (he/him): The as yet unknown mutant population that's under the ground but that's what causes that to to pass so yeah like that discovery of the plate. Michael Worth: yeah yeah yeah yeah. Avish Parashar: i'm like figuring out here, if there were other humans who survived in the initial that probably killed off here at some point. Avish Parashar: right if I get. Avish Parashar: killed off before we get to the fourth act oh. Michael Worth: Well there's there's gonna be a culling look like it's okay to have three or four main characters to start this off because you need that you need to have some bodies, you know. Michael Worth: Just just remembers the my favorite part was in the movie where he's running away and he runs into the museum and sees his comrades stuffed in the in the museum that's the one of the gifts, because you know he. Avish Parashar: sounds terrible. Michael Worth: Like a great idea for act to. Rick Horner (he/him): we've all had that happen happen, we. Michael Worth: have to culminates with the here's the big reveal act to should combine it with the apes realizing that these humans or whoever this animal is. Michael Worth: are different like they don't know they're like kind of maybe like oh it's kind of weird they're wearing these clothing would understand, but like one of them talks or one of them like you know deactivates a car battery what is happening he's demonstrating fine motor skills and. Avish Parashar: that's kind of I would say that he probably is fried right either he cut he gets away here. Avish Parashar: And there's often often but and to Craig if i'm wrong there's sometimes be like a rebel community of apes like that's. Avish Parashar: that's kind of doesn't believe in what the main apes, are doing that kind of got their own like secret base like he somehow finds like allies and he escaped from. Avish Parashar: The clutches and meets up with the allies and kind of start figuring out all right, how are we going to use this to fight back or overthrow. Rick Horner (he/him): yeah they did that more than the TV show and the cartoon than they did in the movies. Rick Horner (he/him): guys are adding that element of like they're getting helped, but it does stand to reason, if you were human beings on the planet of the apes that were in charge, you probably wouldn't last too long, so you. yeah. Avish Parashar: So he gets he gets to go in captivity, probably with help which brings us to act three This is where they get more proactive, because I think the other thing we didn't talk about which. Avish Parashar: The kind of cliche and chrome is there's that twist right like the ending like oh my God a monkey became Abraham Lincoln I know. Michael Worth: horrible. Michael Worth: horrible decision that was. Avish Parashar: But the yeah but the whole like oh my God was earth so in act three I feel like a lot of it is like. Avish Parashar: How do I get back home not realizing like he is home already but. Avish Parashar: Like how do I get out of here how do I. Michael Worth: Proactive escape it's it's really escape he's not trying to overthrow the government they're not trying, especially in this. Rick Horner (he/him): Being like you know. Michael Worth: It is literally, how do we escape and that involves engaging the allies and learning about long forgotten lore and using that to kind of end there's usually like a. Michael Worth: Nice escape fight thing where like you know the evil bad guys soldiers are trying to chase you and and it kind of ends with him or her or them somehow escaping through some long forgotten era. Avish Parashar: through a combination of what they actually will end with them not escape escape plan doesn't work and so they're kind of backs against the wall, which is why the only option and part for us to like enact for us to like. Avish Parashar: fight back or you know take some drastic action. Avish Parashar: The simple escape plan like oh. Avish Parashar: You can get to this tunnel, it will take you out to the other side of the mountains, which is like a you know, a free area, you can go live there by yourself, but then like when they're about to do that the bad guys common like destroy that time I was like oh crap what do we do. Michael Worth: That that's what happened in planet of the apes, they got there, and there was the soldiers like they kidnap doctor says to show him that they were in fact human so you're right they have to do that. Avish Parashar: So it's like the darkest hour, like all the shit hits the fan at the end of activity yeah yeah and. Michael Worth: uh so then act for is going to be two things one then proving. Michael Worth: You know they but it depends on how we didn't necessarily have to prove that they're like the humans were the smarter race so, even if they existed before I just basically. Michael Worth: convince the bad guys that they need to be let free and then they go free and then you have the big plot twist at the end of like you said, the Statue of Liberty or the statue of Abraham Lincoln. Rick Horner (he/him): yeah they never did anything with a script for the sequel which was originally going to be called planet of the men and it focused squarely on Taylor where he creates a new civilization, because there were deleted scenes from the original plan in place where a novel was pregnant. Michael Worth: And so very cool. Rick Horner (he/him): Taylor creates a whole new race of talking humans and i'm so glad that somebody at some point was like Why would we do a whole movie about men in a movie called planet of the. Avish Parashar: apes. Rick Horner (he/him): Or that is. Michael Worth: Yes, exactly. Avish Parashar: Call it like. Avish Parashar: reality. Rick Horner (he/him): I can't wait to go to this theater and experience when I experience every day. Michael Worth: But only 35 millimeter with Dolby sound right. Avish Parashar: Alright, so our duck time or did go off the one thing we did not we always like to start with either a prologue or a trailer um, what do you feel in for this one mikey uh huh. Michael Worth: uh I think the trailer because the prologue is going to be handled by the act one exploration, I think. Avish Parashar: yeah I think that's fine so we'll do a quick movie trailer. Michael Worth: And, and that gives me that get to channel Jerry Goldsmith and actually write like weird a total for the trailer. Avish Parashar: I love this giant, so we got a nice little outline least as a starting point
In this episode, we pay homage to “Survival Movies,” where a small group of people get stranded in nature and must overcome all the dangers they encounter in the world - and resolve their own issues. Links The Edge on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Edge_(1997_film) The Grey on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grey_(film) Time Codes Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 04:06 Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 10:07 Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 17:54 Start of show: 27:05 Improv Game - Movie Trailer: 27:18 Improv Game - He Said, She Said: 29:02 Improv Game - Rashomon: 37:19 Improv Game - Gibberish Switch: 48:25 Improv Game - Cutting Room: 54:35 End of show, into announcements: 1:07:45 More Information About the Show, Mike, and Avish Subscribe to the podcast: http://avishandmike.com/subscribe/ Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: segment on discussing the genre tropes. Avish Parashar: Alright, so we're gonna spend five minutes talking about the commonalities tropes cliches of the genre so i'm going to set a timer here for five minutes and Mike when you think of this kind of survival movie what comes to mind. Michael Worth: Alright So the first thing i'm thinking of is this i'm usually the Oh yes, usually the main character i'm. Michael Worth: Usually he's partially equipped for the survival like he has a background as a tracker or he is a rugged kind of mountain climbing guy generally could be an adrenaline junkie but he is partially equipped to handle this it's just. Avish Parashar: total fish out of water it's like some right. Avish Parashar: got some experience or knowledge or skills. Michael Worth: Yes, but he gets involved in what makes the act one to actually turning point happened is the scope to one of the things happens well either the the scope of the of the. Michael Worth: Experience is going for it gets bigger than it should be like a snow storm hits or something or like you know he's his his he hits a bit of whitewater rafting and his wrath gets destroyed, so you lose all supplies. Michael Worth: Either the scope gets bigger or um he becomes somehow crippled or or injured so he's not 100% capacity right. Avish Parashar: yeah and I would say that I feel like. Avish Parashar: In these kind of movies there's usually a few characters trying to survive, and I would say, our main character doesn't get injured but often one of the secondary characters does. Avish Parashar: Yes. Avish Parashar: That makes life harder for the main character. Michael Worth: Yes, yes, so that's some of the truth i'm not I don't want to drill down to the axiom future obviously right does some of the tropes is like the character that has become a bit of a non nursemaid but, like a Florence Nightingale kind of thing i'm. Avish Parashar: a bunch of ways to go as you were saying that I realized like deliverance can be considered a survival movie as well. Avish Parashar: yeah difference is that. Avish Parashar: You know deliverance and revenue to degree and I haven't even seen it, but my understanding is while there's man against man in those as well, and I think. Avish Parashar: We can just wouldn't happen, but usually it's either all man against nature or mostly man against nature, like animals. Michael Worth: condition, whether yeah. Avish Parashar: But along those lines, often in the group there's some kind of tension or conflict between some of the Members to some of the survivors. Michael Worth: Right now that's intentional conflict guy to be external as in how do we survive this natural disaster or internal um. Michael Worth: You know i've got an ulterior motive, like the edge was like that were like you know, there was this kind of they both were one of them is making a play for the other person's. Avish Parashar: Why was cheating on like. Avish Parashar: yeah Hopkins wife was cheating with baldwin. Avish Parashar: yeah sometimes it's just um yeah sometimes there's a real interpersonal conflict and sometimes it's a. Avish Parashar: look different personality clashes, you know, like one person's not taking it as seriously or one person thinks the other person's doing it wrong. Avish Parashar: yeah you know, like one person wants go that way, the other says, oh no that's too rocky i'm not going that way. Michael Worth: Yes, yes. Avish Parashar: Where is the beginning of. Michael Worth: fact I just thought I was like Q, the job was. Michael Worth: Blue what the job was were like Feral creatures oh. Avish Parashar: come up with our military and episode two is what you're talking about. Michael Worth: Right yeah that's right, I already got to be. Avish Parashar: Right, so what other trump so. Avish Parashar: The usually the people get whittled down until I would say in most of these types of movies, the main character is often the last one left alive, like all the other members of the party get kind of either picked off or die, you know. Michael Worth: yeah yeah. Michael Worth: uh there's usually an impending event, that is, the act three like everybody knows it's coming, and they have to kind of like somehow wait it out and or endure it like so. Avish Parashar: or. Avish Parashar: or like if we don't get out here by such and such a time. Michael Worth: yeah or like the dams gonna break and like we just have to deal with the fact that floods going to happen, but they're not they're not able to stop the event they're just able to to no pun intended, whether it. Avish Parashar: yeah they got to get away from it, or or get out of their situation before that event hits. Avish Parashar: um no. Michael Worth: I got a place of it look like i'm not a bad mood about this there isn't a lot of character development in the is there, or should there be in this, and these kind of things. Avish Parashar: yeah I mean I think a lot of times it's like the the main character is still kind of learn or develop a little bit, but yeah it's this is. Avish Parashar: This is not generally the hey you know i'm going to rely, I mean I guess you can have a survival like technically i'm completely different environment but technically I guess gravity would be a survival movie i'm Cassandra bullock's in space. Avish Parashar: Yes, so in that was very much about her like kind of I don't know very much about her like kind of digging in and realize, you can do on our own, and so it can be there, but yeah a lot of times it's really just like external conflict and interpersonal conflict, not as much internal. Michael Worth: yeah yeah yeah okay i'm down with that that's cool that uh and then at the end at the end, I will say this, though it's always a happy ending in terms of like the main character does survive, they just they do try and over nature over the. Michael Worth: The disaster event. Avish Parashar: All right, that's five minutes up alright spoiler here if you don't want to know what happens at the end of the Gray skip ahead like 20 seconds. Avish Parashar: Did you see the Greg. Michael Worth: No. Avish Parashar: I didn't either, but I know the ending the ending just basically ends. Avish Parashar: With Liam neeson like surrounded either either facing off with a head wolf or surrounded by wolves would like to weapons in his hands and it basically cuts to black. Michael Worth: Fantastic it says literally. Michael Worth: we're going to show you the the we know to be a death scene and we're not going to show you squat. Avish Parashar: Right Nathan, is about to be taken. Michael Worth: Yes, neeson is about to die. Michael Worth: Music needs food badly. Avish Parashar: All right, good so that was segment one. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: segment to hash creating the outline alright, so now that we have talked about some of the tropes of this genre we're going to use that to create our outline for the movie we're about to perform. Avish Parashar: Now we use what's called a for act structure for familiar, the three act structure act one set up back to the rising actually in act three that kind of climax, we would act two into two parts 123 and four. Avish Parashar: And that's, this is the outline we're starting with because this is improv and improv comedy with wacky games, we may variable veer from it, but this is going to kind of be like anchor. Michael Worth: Guy. Avish Parashar: or where we go. Michael Worth: it's our show we reserve the right to change anything we got damn want to. Avish Parashar: Exactly we've dropped games we've changed. Avish Parashar: beats we've killed off characters we changed the main character damn it. Michael Worth: yeah yeah that is a reset timer. Avish Parashar: For five minutes and all right, so we like to start with a prologue or a trailer. Avish Parashar: For this one i'm guessing trailer I don't know the prologue super. Michael Worth: hold off on that we might want to do with the prologue let's. Michael Worth: let's let's go to jump in don't have to because i've got some ideas here. alright. Michael Worth: yeah. Avish Parashar: Alright, so act one we what I like about this versus some of the ones we've been doing is, this is a smaller. Avish Parashar: thing it doesn't have like a giant cast of characters so we meet the characters were going to meet the main character will meet the main like i'll say antagonist because it's not even necessarily a villain. yeah. Avish Parashar: Because they all still have to work together to survive and then maybe a couple of the support characters. Michael Worth: yeah yeah and you know what for this one let's go later on for the improv school later rather than heavier with characters main car. Avish Parashar: I will do like. Avish Parashar: Three or four to like the edge once they get out it's three characters pretty much the whole movie. Michael Worth: yeah yeah and the bear three Harrison, the bear. Avish Parashar: The bear then i'll macpherson you know it's just at home yeah. Michael Worth: meet antagonist okay cool alright so i'll actually meet them and act one is where i'm. Michael Worth: Whatever they're doing pivots into a dangerous situation and that throws them off the equilibrium looking Robert mckee story, this is the beat that throws them off their equilibrium point right. Avish Parashar: yeah I think I think I think act, one should ends with whatever disaster plane crash getting stranded. Michael Worth: that's what I mean yeah. Avish Parashar: So that's where it ends kind of like there's no survival and act one it's just like it's just establishing maybe establish some of the conflicts interactions with the characters are. Michael Worth: exactly like, for example, uh you know one thing we could do is if they were if they were like scuba divers whenever they get sucked into a riptide thrown into one of those caves with a running out of oxygen. Michael Worth: The point is there, the first part is doing their activity and then attorney goes, which turned. Michael Worth: into a survival game. Avish Parashar: Right so basically see them doing an activity meet them, maybe learn a little bit about their interpersonal relations are some of the backstory of like the main character and then it ends with the disaster. Avish Parashar: Which leads us to act two, which is this is very straight like story engineering, which is kind of the four X structure we use this is straight like reactive, they are just they're this new situation they're trying to get. Avish Parashar: That they're just doing desperate for the trying to get back to where they came from, or just trying to survive like let's find shelter let's let's get away from this bear that's attacking us yeah. Michael Worth: You brought up a good point to be in touch with that part of the survival game might be just like getting getting back to safety in terms of like. Michael Worth: we're trapped in this jungle the wants to eat us all we're trying to do is get out of the jungle and get back to civilization, that the survival portion is. Michael Worth: doesn't necessarily have to be just like weathering the blows it's like, no, no, we have to survive this environment while we get to safety. Avish Parashar: yeah and I think here is where I think in Act two, I think we start seeing some of the conflict between the two characters but I don't think it comes to a head, yet I think the hints I think more act three is where like the conflict between the characters. Michael Worth: yeah man i'm definitely starting to feel the vibe for this movie that we're doing to do one where they're actually actively trying to get out of the hospital environment. Michael Worth: and get to safety, rather than just we know we have three days to wait until the ice storm comes we got to figure out how to like build it I like the idea of us. Avish Parashar: yeah like a little more proactive like. Michael Worth: yeah. Avish Parashar: Like where I just tried sometimes that's what happens, a lot of time as an act to. Avish Parashar: They just try to get to safety, where they can whether it out and then at the end of Act two they realize, for whatever reason, like no one's coming to save us um you know we have to try to actively go get out. Michael Worth: yeah yeah. Avish Parashar: I think that brings us to act three, which is them actively trying to like the actor is about just trying to survive and act three is about trying to escape. Michael Worth: At the end of that too is when is when they when they generate a plan. Michael Worth: They generate some sort of a. Michael Worth: plan of action they go from reactive to proactive. Michael Worth: yeah at three is them. Michael Worth: beginning to actively. Michael Worth: survive, you know defeat the environment. Avish Parashar: Well, they try right activism, like all right we're going to get out of this um so whatever plan, they have to get out of their environment is act three. Avish Parashar: yeah and I would say, as usual, it doesn't completely work, this is probably where the extraneous characters die off so we're left at the end of act three with just the two main characters. Michael Worth: yeah yeah cars that you know we have to make sure that nobody nobody except the two main characters live to act for die off and usually the The trouble is increased. Michael Worth: At the end of act three meaning whatever survival component, there is. Michael Worth: Like troubles increase at end of act three because we want a lot of states to be higher for at four. Avish Parashar: yeah and it could be another thing like that's when they realize the storm is coming in a half to get out or. Michael Worth: yeah or maybe like that the animals they've encountered have like alerted their tribe, and now it's like more of them right it's like oh God there's now. paxil yeah. Avish Parashar: Something gets worse so yeah. Avish Parashar: Which leads to act for. Avish Parashar: At this point, that they hatch a desperate plan, like, I think the act three that we said at the end of back to the couple the planet that's more straightforward, like all right we're gonna. Avish Parashar: First break we're going to run this way or climb this hill I think actor is more like like in the edge in in at four all right we'll keep going for a couple minutes oh. Avish Parashar: yeah in and in the edge there at four planets we're gonna kill that bear like they're literally like we're going to go kill this grizzly bear because they're. Avish Parashar: So I think they have like a desperate plan. Michael Worth: yep and a dramatic standoff uh. Avish Parashar: I think it seems highly led. Michael Worth: The antagonist dies there. Avish Parashar: yeah the antagonist died things coming to a head, although sometimes it's very like redemptive like the antagonists dies, but he dies like a row ugly. Avish Parashar: yeah as accidentally or it could be one of those like hey we got away from the bear and now the antagonists going to try to kill the hero so yeah I mean. Michael Worth: yeah Oh, by the way, if I thought about yeah and then and then at the end, the main character lives, and you know older older wiser unless it's the Gray, which case apparently Liam neeson dies because hey. Michael Worth: let's be edgy let's be edgy a, by the way, I just realized there's an 80s movie that is kind of a disaster movie but it's really badly done it's the River with Mel gibson. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah. Michael Worth: yeah but it's really badly done. Avish Parashar: That river one with Kevin bacon and Meryl Streep right remember wild yeah with. Michael Worth: The score. Avish Parashar: yeah you know. Avish Parashar: You know what you know really what we're as we're going through the beats you know, is a a you would never think of it, but a 1986 movie that you would you could consider has all these beats of survival. Michael Worth: aliens. Michael Worth: aliens yes. Avish Parashar: We got it we're going to try to survive Oh, the exhaust when placing the blue we got to get out here, we they're desperate plan Burke betrays. Michael Worth: trace them. Avish Parashar: And us. Avish Parashar: To go back and kill the Queen to save new. Michael Worth: York. Avish Parashar: And defeat the guys. Avish Parashar: Environment just aliens in the woods. Michael Worth: Right replace the Queen alien with a big bear.
About This Episode In this episode, we pay homage to Reluctant Thief movies - the ones where a (somewhat) honorable criminal is trying to leave that life behind but is forced back to commit one...last...job. This one took some weird turns (as they should - it's improv!) but we'd like to think we managed to tie things together with a nice little bow. Time Codes Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 04:01 Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 10:01 Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 16:24 Start of show: 21:16 Improv Game - Movie Game: 22:17 Improv Game - Scenes Without the Letter: 24:20 Improv Game - Newsroom: 32:09 Improv Game - Best of Times, Worst of Times: 43:05 Improv Game - Cutting Room: 52:38 End of show, into announcements: 1:08:20 More Information About the Show, Mike, and Avish Subscribe to the podcast: Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: segment one. Avish Parashar: Discussing the genre tropes. Avish Parashar: Alright, so we're going to start by spending five minutes talking about the tropes and commonalities and cliches in this genre, so I will set our timer here for five minutes so Mike when you think of this type of movie what comes to mind. Michael Worth: So first of the the main character can be followed, obviously, the main character is a retired slash left is like behind him specialist of some sort it's usually like a cyber like a look a bit of a criminal, what is it the victimless crime kind of thing because safecracker or a. Avish Parashar: yeah it's not yeah it's not like the muscle or the killer it's the yeah someone who's really smart who. Avish Parashar: yeah doesn't like it, I think fickleness is a great way to describe it like there's like the feeling expert that safe cracking expert. Avish Parashar: Or maybe even like the you know the deceptive person, but yeah it's not the one who goes in and kills the guards. Michael Worth: Right um so what happens is no basically this This is basically like a heist movie basically um and there's a couple ways there's a couple ways that trumps can go one is the dude was there, the main bad guy is always this kind of villainous. Michael Worth: scheming for his own wealthy kind of thing, so he usually runs a corporation or a gang or something like that. Michael Worth: Definitely it's a trope of the corporation was always a good one, you know where it's like oh i'm a company, I need you to like steal something from a rival company or I need you to like you know steal. Michael Worth: or or break in and kind of gain this data or something like that swordfish, is one of those kind of like that. Avish Parashar: yeah. Michael Worth: Where they get a. Michael Worth: X men to do you know. Michael Worth: um so the other trope is there's two ways this can go one is the dude is a solo guy, in which case. Michael Worth: He spends a lot of there's a lot of casing the joint and kind of a building a plan or it's a heist party and he he builds his like team of three or four people and they kind of go in leverage style and my. Avish Parashar: yeah I think go either way, I think I think the highest plan is more interesting, I think the solo plan is a little more simple for improv so we can kind of decide which want to do. Michael Worth: I think i'm solo plan which is kind of cool. Avish Parashar: And i'll say that usually. Avish Parashar: there's some leverage like they use the person like they've kidnap the daughter, the best friend the parents usually kidnapping, it could also be like a debt like. Avish Parashar: You know this person owes but even if they owe money usually it's not like dating get into like $100,000 that usually it's like. Avish Parashar: You know their best friend did so they're taking on the debt so they're very noble is the the here like yes, even though they're a thief or a criminal to have like a strong moral compass. Michael Worth: Yes, yes, definitely do yeah and only going with that there's there's definitely a. Michael Worth: don't kill, whenever possible, like so he's not going in and everything's very slick, and like here's the problem with getting like knocking somebody out or something but there's no death clause, you know that, in the tropes. yeah. Avish Parashar: yeah. Michael Worth: You go for it. Avish Parashar: So there's all there's usually a police officer detective. Avish Parashar: Who starts to suspect that this person is not all bad. Avish Parashar: You know in in in Assam casing this out, or if it's like a hostage thing depends, how far it goes a lot of times the police officer eventually figures out that our hero is not. Avish Parashar: Like being forced to do it, even though the rest of the police force electronic stop and arrest them like usually one person who gets it. Michael Worth: So now, the question is this here's here's a trick question when that when the event finally happens when you know the break in the theme is probably gonna be a thief thing. Michael Worth: Does it is, is the is the trope the excellent and slick execution to to get the object without anybody knowing, or is it like things start to go bad and the hero has to think quickly to kind of overcome obstacles or is it a little bit of both. Avish Parashar: I would say it's usually more the second more like yeah something goes wrong um and and sometimes it can be one of two things, it could be either something goes wrong. Avish Parashar: i'm either the here i'll make something go wrong like they intentionally do something on the download without the bad guys knowing or you know the hero does something like to save a life right like instead of killing the god who saves a God, but then that creates complications. Michael Worth: yeah yeah. um. Avish Parashar: But yeah I would say, usually not I say doesn't usually just get executed really flawlessly and everything's. Michael Worth: yeah and the final trope is at the at the end of the company, the confrontation with the the villain um this is more of a question there's a couple ways, it can go either the hero kills the film, which is really. Michael Worth: useful because usually this is almost become a PG thing i'm or the the hero tricks the villain so that he gets back the person who's kidnapped with the money and what he gives the villain incriminate slash gets the villain arrested. Avish Parashar: yeah like does a twist where. Avish Parashar: yeah he thinks the hero did what he wanted to, but in fact it it flips it around and then yeah yeah yeah. Michael Worth: And then you know that's usually the last of that trope that's a pretty good you know that's a pretty good broad outline of what these kind of film is going to be. Avish Parashar: yeah and I will say The other thing is if it's a heist type thing for the group, then. Avish Parashar: there's usually some people within the group who are like there's like us like one who kind of is more an ally who's who agrees with the hero like not wanting to hurt and then everyone else was like psychotic like. Michael Worth: yeah yeah. Avish Parashar: At least like one psycho bad guy who's not the main bad guy but I was just like I just want to kill COPs and. Michael Worth: and Avish Parashar: and others were like well I don't know I kind of what the hero got he's got a point alright So those are duck timers yeah we have a lot of tropes i'm so good, which brings us to segment to creating the outline. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: Alright, so now we're going to spend about five minutes hashing out our outline for this we do a four act structure which is basically a three act structure we just put Act two into. Avish Parashar: X, two and three to two X, because the first half is usually more reactive, the second is proactive just helps with the improv a little bit. Avish Parashar: And just kind of the disclaimer here we're going to make the outline now, but since this is improv and using improv games, we may very well veer from it, but this will be a kind of starting point and and lifeline alright, so our five minutes starts now. Avish Parashar: All right, so uh you know first question, as usual, is we usually either start with a movie trailer or a prologue. Michael Worth: This is going to be a trailer. Avish Parashar: yeah. Michael Worth: yeah trailer for this one. Avish Parashar: Alright, so let's start with a movie trailer all right, then act one. Avish Parashar: Oh, and what have you the truth, so in act one. Avish Parashar: Obvious obviously the we meet the hero, and they get forced into into joining the gang right right. Michael Worth: or joining joining the. Avish Parashar: The operation right Bob right. Michael Worth: So i'm gonna put down instead with main character he's living his post. Michael Worth: Crime simple life, the interest of villain it's almost always a face to face meeting the number one of these like con things where you never see what curtain come never in the same room. Michael Worth: yeah villain co OPS car to do the operation I don't think in this one he's going to join the team, I think the whole point is that this guy is kind of slick kind of James Bond he does it by his own. Avish Parashar: A lot of time okay yeah so I like that so. Avish Parashar: i'm not a heist team I just kind of like I need you to like break into blah blah blah this one time for me. Avish Parashar: I would say at the end of act one, is where we discover the leverage the villain has you know, like the person who's kidnapped or the the you know why. Avish Parashar: You know refusal, a call right, of course, here's me like dude i'm out i'm not doing this yep and then something happens where he's forced into it. Michael Worth: yeah reveals leverage cool and then. Avish Parashar: Potentially we could meet oh good to the active so act too. Avish Parashar: I think we should meet the kind of protagonists police officer. Michael Worth: yeah and you know what usually happens at this point in time here's what's happening Act two is is the setup and the research of the heist by the guy. Michael Worth: yeah at this point is where he attracts the attention of the police officer, you know, maybe like facial recognition software triggers something or like. Michael Worth: Some garden notices this guy's been hanging around the location, so you know I mean like that's kind of the police officer gets involved he gets brought in. Avish Parashar: yeah you know. Michael Worth: hero begins to plan. Avish Parashar: And I would say, sometimes in this act, is where the hero, maybe tries to get out of it like you're maybe tries to contact the police or tries to do something, but then, like the bad guy is one step ahead, and you know says know if you do that again like i'm going to kill your whatever. Michael Worth: Oh yeah that could happen yeah definitely yep. Avish Parashar: And maybe maybe not my will, maybe I won't work in the scope here, but often there's like a mini heist right here it's like it's like a test run slash they need to second to break into the big vault they need this special device which is hidden in this company's headquarters. Michael Worth: yeah or or or you have to another corporation just steal them in a piece of tech usually a mini heist. Michael Worth: To enable the macguffin for the big heist. Avish Parashar: yeah. Michael Worth: Right and also usually at this point in time now might be act three nevermind a you know the monk. Michael Worth: describes in act one the villain usually describes the function. Michael Worth: Of the object to be dealt with like Oh, you need to get this piece of code that will allow me to like seamlessly change money from one currency to another without any sort of fee. Avish Parashar: Right you're saying, whatever so. Michael Worth: yeah doesn't act one because an act for. Michael Worth: You because the next three, is where the true nature of the object interview that is always different than what it is that we. Avish Parashar: Are various like. Michael Worth: yeah right. Avish Parashar: Like I feel this money it's like oh no that lets me access all the nuclear launch codes. Michael Worth: Right right oh yeah this device can boil any water oh look I can actually just cause lakes to dry up and cause, you know droughts in like whole you know towns hostage, I was like oh okay. Avish Parashar: And I think the actual operation. Avish Parashar: starts in act three. Michael Worth: Obviously the act three is a yeah is execution. Michael Worth: Of the operation right. Avish Parashar: yeah and I think. Avish Parashar: And their obstacles know things go wrong or you know they're like guards come up or yep. Michael Worth: I stab at three ends with a getting the object. Michael Worth: And realizing like we said it's nefarious potential realize in its various potential. Michael Worth: And this kind of the hero, is trying to figure out what's the company at this point in time, usually at this. Avish Parashar: I think in act three I think the in the COP is more involved and COPs maybe one of the obstacles in Act two, and certainly not three of the COPs and obstacle. Avish Parashar: And I would say at the end of act three out either he discovered the here discovers what the actual purpose is or gives it to the. Avish Parashar: villain and then realize the purpose, but I think the COP gets involved, the end of that three to like maybe catches or or freeze even like realize this number two of them work together. Michael Worth: yeah yeah so then act, for this is our streets until we want his hero. Michael Worth: confronts. Michael Worth: out smarts. Michael Worth: villain. Avish Parashar: Conrad. Avish Parashar: Oh that's often what happens is kind of a trope is that the COP. Avish Parashar: goes and rescues the leverage, while the hero. Avish Parashar: Go fill in and so. Avish Parashar: Basically, save the kidnap person. Avish Parashar: confront the villain and turn the tables. Michael Worth: yeah he's good friends announcements phil and competencies in here a cop rescues leverage hero turns tables. Michael Worth: On villain cool that's it that's a decent outline. Avish Parashar: That all right, so that also was the end of our five minute timer so we have our outline
About This Episode In this episode, we pay homage to the movie Gremlins, the Critters movie, and any other movie that could be labeled as a “Critter Horror Movie.” One where a large horde of small creatures wreaks havoc on a small community. Our familiarity with this genre was mostly from Gremlins, so this episode basically becomes a parody of that, but hey, that doesn't sound like a bad thing, does it…? Links Gremlins on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gremlins Critters on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critters_(film) Time Codes Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 04:26 Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 10:04 Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 16:30 Start of show: 23:52 Improv Game - Death in a Minute:25:46 Improv Game - Pardon: 27:46 Improv Game - Blind Line: 36;45 Improv Game - Newsroom: 50:58 Improv Game - Cutting Room: 1:01:22 End of show, into announcements: 1:15:51 More Information About the Show, Mike, and Avish Subscribe to the podcast: www.AvishAndMike.com/subscribe Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: All right, we're not going to spend five minutes talking about the tropes commonalities and cliches of this genre i'm setting a timer for five minutes and our time. Michael Worth: started a duck isn't it. It is a duck timer yes. Avish Parashar: i'll change it for next time, if I remember. Avish Parashar: Right Mike let's talk critter horror um, what do you what comes to mind. Michael Worth: i'm gonna i'm gonna go in the interest of like cuz he can play the whole you could go either way with like it's just like tremors i'm going to go with. Michael Worth: These critters are are known by somebody so the trope is usually first of all it's usually an everyday suburban and this kind of movies and everyday suburban family or things like that. Michael Worth: Usually it's in the cities there's rarely like kind of like a desolate countryside horror kind of thing um and usually. Michael Worth: They discover these creatures as kind of a monkey's paw like it's usually kind of given to them, or they encountered it or they find it and they they decide to take it in, so the creatures are not initially malevolent. Michael Worth: yeah, at least with the gremlins is not, and I think. Avish Parashar: yeah and that's and you know my I was realizing as we're prepping for this episode that my familiarity with the genre isn't so broad I so a lot of my stuff is gonna be there's gonna be more of a gremlins almost for me then abroad critters Omar in general. Michael Worth: Fine, because we can do gremlins on March, then we can do this again next year and do like a shadow Mars. Avish Parashar: That maybe the only child in the history of. Michael Worth: We will go down in history. Michael Worth: gremlins, then I love that idea there's very much a monkey's paw thing right where it's like hey you can get this, but you gotta watch out there's. Avish Parashar: A yeah yeah so there's a yeah they like two versions it's not inherently bad, I would say, you know, with some of the sample movies, for me, when I think critter Har I think small and numerous. Avish Parashar: So not like not like tremors where it's you know. Avish Parashar: On huge giant like dunes and worms or whatever. Avish Parashar: So yeah I think a bunch of small. Avish Parashar: And then, they also and I think this is across genres there's a number of sort of like a slasher movie right there's a number of. Avish Parashar: Creative or random ways people die, you know, like you said about goolies like Dudes on a toilet and gets you know something comes up and goes into but like that's. Michael Worth: Absolutely. Avish Parashar: I don't that's creative or not, but you know it's like random. Michael Worth: Right now there's what happens is, if you want to go this route. Michael Worth: The creature start off very cute Okay, and even if they don't morph into something gross like I haven't seen critters but, like you know the kitchen there's somehow designed to look both scary and cute, which is actually a pretty impressive. Michael Worth: SF s thing, because if you look at spike from gremlins those guys are still actually kind of cute and their little green lizard the last starfighter kind of way, obviously the good guy he would say, mostly but not him the. Avish Parashar: model I want a mob was a. Avish Parashar: gizmo was the. Michael Worth: gizmo yeah yeah yeah I mean obviously he's adorable you know, setting the other, but when. Avish Parashar: I gotta sell the merge baby. Michael Worth: Oh, my God, yes, oh, by the way, this is a doctor, this is the era of massive product placement so. Michael Worth: diet Pepsi everyone's eating m&ms right. Avish Parashar: yeah. Michael Worth: We need to put that in there. Avish Parashar: I would say your hero is usually an ordinary person it's not like a yes and your law enforcement military is usually either just useless or hindrance. Michael Worth: Right right this they're definitely incompetent God poor homie he's like to watch these movies notice that the police force look so grossly incompetent. Michael Worth: How do they solve the infestation because honestly this act three well get that free but basically there's an it becomes an infestation the reason why there's so many little critters is because there's also lots of creative ways to kill the critters and that's. Avish Parashar: All yeah so creative ways to kill the critters. Michael Worth: Oh yeah like like silly ways like sticking them in the microwave. Avish Parashar: yeah lady putting them in a blender. Michael Worth: I was great yeah. Avish Parashar: yeah it's so yeah I think they either have some exploitable weakness, you know water for the gremlins yeah and they kind of learned them in other sunlight. Avish Parashar: Water wasn't a lot of sunlight would kill them right no. Avish Parashar: or there's some like elaborate like they're drawn to something so it's like oh they're drawn to you know cat meowing so let's put all these cats in the school gym and learn them all there and blow them. Michael Worth: All yeah there's usually some kind of weakness or trade about them, that makes them either destroy or gathering. Michael Worth: Even though these creatures either are generated by a magic or super science they're killed with good old fashioned 80s action destruction like there's no like Oh, we have to create a summoning circle and like send them back the portal it's. Michael Worth: Like yes that's true yeah. Michael Worth: put them in the gym and blow them up, or like you know drop move on to a boat and then like synced about you know oh and. Michael Worth: This is a big trope because remember these kind of movies low budgets you got to have a set piece, the final destruction of all the creatures is definitely a Hollywood explosion kind of thing it's like. Michael Worth: All right, let's say, for example, water kills the Lord them onto a boat, instead of being like well just think about the trip ITO it's like no will nuke the boat with a sidewinder missed. Michael Worth: The boat. Michael Worth: yeah. Michael Worth: And then you know. Avish Parashar: there's a Doc all right, that is our five minutes, I think we have a good list of tropes and discussion points. Michael Worth: yeah this this This really is going to turn into no master gremlins I have no problem with that. Avish Parashar: yeah that's fine that's what we do here. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: That brings us to. Avish Parashar: Alright now we're going to hash out a high level outline for our story. Avish Parashar: Disclosure this being improv comedy we may veer from this outline, but this is how we're going to start we're going to afford act structure which is similar to the three act we just split Act two up into two parts, because it makes it a little easier for this kind of storytelling. Avish Parashar: show our show. Michael Worth: You, the. Avish Parashar: five minute timer starts now. Michael Worth: All right, no one's pretty easy at one we're going to do to the main character own and it's usually always a main character, plus a girlfriend or a boyfriend you know what maybe even a family, so when it comes to the. Avish Parashar: main character, or like the love interest, so they may not be together at the beginning, but through this trauma they come together. Michael Worth: yeah exactly and that's one they encounter. Michael Worth: The critter or critters. Michael Worth: And there's usually kind of a. Michael Worth: mysterious figure, this is the call to adventure crossing the threshold so. Avish Parashar: yeah and I would say that, like a lot of times it's all establishment, like the. Avish Parashar: The the the critters don't really become evil or start doing bad stuff till the end of act. Avish Parashar: To the end of that going right like it wasn't like the end of act, one that that they got fed after midnight and turn evil and gremlins. Michael Worth: Right so so at the end of act one so, by the way in act one you also get the warnings. Avish Parashar: The did the warning yes. Michael Worth: Now, at the end of act one if we get really granular one warning is broken and that starts the process of transformation because, because then an act to whatever other warnings are broken are broken and then then act, three and four becomes the scramble you know what I mean. Michael Worth: Okay, it kind of makes sense. Avish Parashar: Warnings in one gets broken the kind of. Avish Parashar: starts to slide. Michael Worth: yeah because that's gonna be that's gonna be the end of the crossing the threshold where you're like oh I accidentally did this, and now the creatures are doing this, so I would say at the end of act one one warning will be broken. Avish Parashar: Alright, so then into Act two, and this is where i'm. Avish Parashar: The bad stuff starts to happen yep. Michael Worth: But it's gonna be a slow burn that we can't we can't go too crazy enact too, because you got to save all the good stuff rack three so like it's just like little things you know and just mattel's it's got to be darkly comic. which of course yeah. Michael Worth: Doc and comic is our speciality. Avish Parashar: yeah and I would say here is where. Avish Parashar: it's more mischief than outright violence. Avish Parashar: And if there is like violence or death it's with like offside character. Avish Parashar: So, like the main characters aren't even aware that there's just much evil going on. Michael Worth: Right or I could really see us going towards like animals and pets, you know not like omen style, but like being like you know oh my God all the all the journals are dead, you know. Avish Parashar: yeah yeah. Avish Parashar: we're gonna hit real dark real fast. Michael Worth: yeah now this point uh This is where the police get involved and they're incompetent bumbling as a matter as a matter of fact yeah It might not even please animal control some of that. Avish Parashar: Some authority start to. Avish Parashar: realize something's going on. Michael Worth: Now here is. Avish Parashar: I would say, oh real quick, I would say also that, like a lot of times in these movies. Avish Parashar: With the authority does makes the situation far worse, you know. Avish Parashar: it's like you're never supposed to. Avish Parashar: You know, let them into this one room, but then the animal control comes in, or you can have it legal animal takes them and it puts them in that room and then. Michael Worth: Yes, you just you just we're going to do that I know we're kind of pre writing a bit, but i'm curious our podcast because I was about to say. Michael Worth: When the second warning is broken and the animals in the critical full Feral Is it the animals that do it themselves like spiked it or is it the fault and let's go let's try it let's see if we can make the fault of. Avish Parashar: can be either use a combination, like the incompetent authorities set up the ability for the critters to do that, and then the critters take advantage of it, and then, so it kind of like both. Michael Worth: yeah yeah. Avish Parashar: Alright, then act three is just mayhem. Michael Worth: mayhem. Avish Parashar: This is we're going to get the both the creative ways the critters do bad things and also the creative ways the critters die. Michael Worth: Yes, exactly doesn't all have to be murder, it can be just like social breakdown, you know what I mean like but yeah definitely like but truly naughty to evil right that's the spectrum we're dealing with right now we're dealing with the naughty to evil beyond mischievous right. Avish Parashar: yeah and then a. Michael Worth: This point that the protagonists needs to find out the weakness of the critter. Avish Parashar: Right, I was about to say they kind of start learning. Avish Parashar: What they need to yeah and usually something happens that hits close to home, like either they're attacked of the girlfriends or boyfriends attack or like a family member so like. Avish Parashar: Something hits close to home up so stakes. Michael Worth: Right and they come they find out the weakness and then they come up with a plan to defeat the creatures and at forest and putting the plan into action. Avish Parashar: yeah and I think the coming up with a plan could add to be the end of act three of beginning back for but somewhere in there, they figured out. Avish Parashar: Like a lot of times, maybe at the end of act three they figure out what the plan is of the critters are like Oh, we just saw there we may have but oh my God they're trying to you know, make the nuclear plant meltdown or something. Michael Worth: Oh yeah yeah exactly exactly um and then act for is them putting the plan to place which. Michael Worth: almost always involves. Michael Worth: A giant genocidal detonation. Avish Parashar: You don't mean yeah it's like how are we going to get them all in this one place a lot of times like one of the heroes, one of the protagonist is like the bait or something and then they create this plan and get them all together and then and then often there's you know. Avish Parashar: The one like the main one that didn't die in the big explosion and then there's the final like one on one. Michael Worth: Oh yeah there's a false there's a false ending with like the final. Michael Worth: Final one on one with with head bad guy. Avish Parashar: yeah Oh, and one thing we didn't ask is, are we opening with a prologue or a movie trailer. Michael Worth: Well that's what i'm section right uh let me think about that let's look let's let's let's cue Leah the The pre lay and then we'll figure it out cuz I gotta think for about a minute on that. Avish Parashar: Alright, so that brings us to the end of our outline section. Avish Parashar: that's brings us doing.
About This Episode In this episode, we pay homage to the Michael Myers Halloween Movies. Yes, “Halloween Kills” is coming out, so to prepare (and to celebrate the release) we made our very own improvised Halloween slasher style movie. There's a killer, an obsessive doctor, a final girl, and three friends to be killed off. Plus a local sheriff who just won't take the threat seriously (won't they ever learn…?). There's also cotton candy, 14” pipes, playing card weapons, and at one point someone rides a flying reindeer… Links Halloween Kills on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_Kills Halloween Movie Franchise on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_(franchise) Michael Myers on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Myers_(Halloween) Time Codes Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 04:41 Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 11:41 Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 18:49 Start of show: 29:21 Improv Game - Movie Trailer: 29:58 Improv Game - Dating Game: 31:25 Improv Game - Gibberish Switch Typewriter: 42:00 Improv Game - Timed Styles: 52:40 Improv Game - Cutting Room: 1:03:07 End of show, into announcements: 1:17:05 More Information About the Show, Mike, and Avish Subscribe to the podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-a-world-of-improvised-movie-homages/id1585143668?itsct=podcast_box_link&itscg=30200&ls=1 Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: Alright, so i'm going to start with a five minute timer you hear the duck quack when that end alright, so a couple tropes number one obviously you have a human killer. Avish Parashar: Who is sort of more than human they sort of our unkillable they have that magic walking power where someone else runs. Avish Parashar: But they walk and they still catch up to them. Michael Worth: Yes, they have army is greater than others run. Avish Parashar: yeah exactly and they have they have the sort of disappearing act thing where. Avish Parashar: You know the character will walk and you'll see Michael myers in the background, and then, when the character walks back across that same like doorway suddenly the killer suddenly gone so they kind of appear and disappear. Michael Worth: yeah totally um now let's talk about the protagonists of this um there's a couple different ways, you can go in this case, I believe. Michael Worth: i'm well how how Mike myers we're going to go, because it was, I believe, a psychologist and like Mike myers was like a emotionally disturbed person and replaying that rather we do. Avish Parashar: Well yeah so we're talking two characters really the protagonist i'd say is the teen victim. Avish Parashar: i'm, certainly in the original Halloween movies and and the whole genre that that spun off there's a teen female. Avish Parashar: You know I posted to Facebook and we're a new show, so I didn't get a lot of responses, but uh. Avish Parashar: I one buddy matt I posted like what are some of the tropes and so he posted that the cliches are the innocent of the people who survive and the not so innocent don't and that became a big trope of Halloween or like the first one, like the Jamie Lee curtis was very innocent and pure. Avish Parashar: All her friends were doing drugs and drinking having sex died. Michael Worth: Right right right that's very true, and that was that was even rift on in scream scream actually lifted that idea and really ran with it so yeah. Avish Parashar: He also said. Avish Parashar: it's. Avish Parashar: it's usually like an everyday people in an everyday setting so like a small town, which is definitely a Halloween thing you know they're not they're not a major metropolis. Avish Parashar: um but so kind of a small town feel like haddonfield and Halloween. Michael Worth: mm hmm um what causes the killer to focus on the small group of teenagers, is it some wrong that happened to his family early him or his family earlier by them. Avish Parashar: yeah so in the first Halloween movie it was just he just went back to his hometown as a kid he killed his sister and they got sent to an asylum. Avish Parashar: And then he just went back to his hometown on the anniversary itself subsequent movies, they added all this mythology about how Jamie Lee curtis was his sister half sister so that's why he was specifically targeting her. Avish Parashar: That may or may not have to be in our story because. Avish Parashar: it's almost more terrifying and mysterious that would random in the first one like. Michael Worth: That could be cool yeah but you also do that if you know, for example, some of the ones like I know what you did last summer, those are like that act of like or even Freddy krueger where it's like the sins of the family are visited upon the kids you know, like. Avish Parashar: yeah which we can have, but I think these movies, are generally a little bit. Avish Parashar: Even if they're getting revenge like Jason it's about like it's not specifically against the people that wrong them it's just in general, like he just. Avish Parashar: Bad happened here so i'm going back to. Avish Parashar: continue to get revenge alright cool um now, the one thing that's that Halloween had that a lot of the other movies don't is Dr loomis so there's a. Avish Parashar: Dr loomis talk to them is the great Donald lessons. Avish Parashar: Saying sadly I think Halloween six was his last movie or one of those horrible halloweens what's his last role. Michael Worth: Oh man. Avish Parashar: it's like it's like. Michael Worth: Julia leaving on a street fighter. Avish Parashar: yeah exactly but there's like in this, I think, having an obsessive like scientist or a doctor or someone. Avish Parashar: who's a little bit proactive in the hunt mm hmm. Michael Worth: yeah is he also oftentimes responsible for this person's. Michael Worth: maniacal disposition like he broke them or something like that. Avish Parashar: can be that's not really the case in Halloween but it definitely can be okay. Michael Worth: yeah i'm kind of like just trying to come up with like things to to drive our story um but yeah no you're right there's a maniacal Dr obsessive who's kind of like knows a lot about the patient and kind of trying to bring them to justice, a. Avish Parashar: lot of like us lot stocking. Avish Parashar: So a lot of like. Avish Parashar: Tension building like the first Halloween is surprisingly, not that gory but. Avish Parashar: there's a lot of like Michael myers is there, then he's not is he is he in the House is he not so the lot of like. Avish Parashar: stalking and spence. Michael Worth: How do they end up in Halloween, how do you end up defeating him, other than just good old fashioned blunt force trauma beat him to death because there any sort of like secret trick to they kind of tap into some aspect of the psyche you know, like. Avish Parashar: One of the fraud Halloween Halloween they kind of blow them up in the second one. Avish Parashar: He gets stabbed in shot in the first one um you know mysterious death and the fourth one he gets captured in the fifth one they don't even kill him. Michael Worth: Oh really okay yeah this is. Avish Parashar: Your last Halloween the new one that came out they. Avish Parashar: burn him. Avish Parashar: But evidently he comes back. Avish Parashar: So yeah they don't there was there was some famous. Avish Parashar: I don't think it's true, but there was some Oh, the mask is key right there's always a mask. Michael Worth: Oh yeah always always always are the faces always hit yeah. Avish Parashar: yeah and there was there was some some theory that someone said, which I don't think has validated that if you watch the end of the first Halloween Michael Mars, is trying to choke her. Avish Parashar: that she pulls off his mask and then he likes test back and he's trying to get it back on that's when loomis shoots him. Avish Parashar: So it's almost like, but I think he actually gets a mask on before you get shot but someone was like Oh well, this mass was off so he didn't have his like invulnerability which I don't think it's true but. Avish Parashar: He cared about his mask enough that he stopped. Avish Parashar: Trying to kill his target to put his mask back on so. Michael Worth: yeah so you know vanity. Avish Parashar: And all that right so, but you know in. Avish Parashar: terms of story, this is not like. Avish Parashar: Some of the other ones we've done that have a very involved outline plot structure, this is like there's a killer becomes to a small town area stocks, a lot of people ends up with the final girl and there's like an obsessive guy trying to stop them. Michael Worth: wow all right. Michael Worth: we'll figure out a way to meet the story has some teeth, you know but. Michael Worth: I mean the simplest good right. Avish Parashar: yeah there's a lot of room play alright cool alright so that's segment, one which is the outline which brings us to. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: So, now that we've got the tropes we're going to spend about five minutes hashing out a high level outline we use a four act structure. Avish Parashar: To tell our story and just the disclaimer is we're gonna. Avish Parashar: it's gonna be a high level outline now kind of roughly what will happen in each act but it's improv comedy so we may completely throw this away and veer off of it immensely but it gives us a starting point so i'll set the five minute timer now in a way we go. Michael Worth: prologue or trailer. Avish Parashar: Now I think a lot of these, you have the prologue and kind of what happened before, like you know you talked about that inciting incident years ago that he's coming back for. Michael Worth: yeah yeah. Avish Parashar: So the prologue will often have that, so I think a prologue might be good. Michael Worth: On the other hand, we could also go with the whole this do just shows up and starts killing right kind of maximum overdrive right we're just like. Avish Parashar: All right, yeah so really comes down to you more in the mood to play a an improv game for a prologue and into a movie trailer. Michael Worth: Let me get back to you on that i'm not sure, yet I like them both. Avish Parashar: Okay, please we'll figure that out yeah. Avish Parashar: Alright, so. Avish Parashar: In act one we're going to meet the main will meet both main characters meet the main girl and it's almost always a girl so we'll stick with that yep. I agree. Avish Parashar: and meet the obsessive dude yeah. Michael Worth: Those the two main characters. Avish Parashar: They may not necessarily meet at this point, they often don't until later. Michael Worth: mm hmm and probably the second tier capital, because you gotta get some cannon. Avish Parashar: fodder friends yeah the friends who will be picked off yep they will not be picked off yet. Avish Parashar: No. Michael Worth: Are we playing the game where they go to an abandoned place i'm going to do that thing like don't blink where they are let's go to a cabin in the woods, you know or. Avish Parashar: I don't think so for for a Halloween movie know, and I think you know we did we started a slasher movie months ago and that you can see if you go back to our podcast archive. Avish Parashar: called summer of decay yeah and that was supposed to be a Friday 13th styling and quickly became more supernatural with like a monster but. Avish Parashar: I think that's one of the things separates Halloween from. Avish Parashar: Some of these others is they are just in a town or not like in an abandoned locale cool and. Avish Parashar: I think we're going to see. Avish Parashar: I think we'll see the villain being creepy but he's not necessarily gonna. Avish Parashar: kill anyone here. Michael Worth: Until the. Avish Parashar: Where you might kill like total rondo's. Michael Worth: yeah actually the end of act one let's have a killer killer random. Michael Worth: Just to show that he's dangerous, because then act two will be when he asked it just puts a site on the group of friends and starts just often them. Michael Worth: cool. Avish Parashar: yeah all yeah So yes. Michael Worth: Well, we reserve the right to change it. Avish Parashar: yeah I was gonna say that I feel like so that's actually one say I have to. Avish Parashar: Act two is almost where you got a lot of the creepy stocking maybe kills like one person i'm like I think there's a lot of stalking and act to lie like suspension suspension building. Avish Parashar: And there's a lot of Dr loomis investigation like he's talking to the shower if he's trying to. Avish Parashar: he's trying to get in contact with the main girl if the main girls connected, if not he's just trying to find the killer. mm hmm. Michael Worth: yeah yeah I agree content. Avish Parashar: And I think this is where like the the final girl, the main character kind of keeps seeing the killer but then the killer is not there and she's like what is that oh that's weird like that's a creepy dude. Avish Parashar: uh huh and I guess the thing we didn't talk about in the tropes which we can decide when it comes to titling is. Avish Parashar: You know Halloween obviously is themed around a holiday, are we going to see Mars or on Halloween or around random holiday or we can we can figure that out, as we go. Michael Worth: Random holiday. alright. Avish Parashar: So the doctor investigates there's probably some killing. Michael Worth: There has to be at this point time otherwise. Avish Parashar: yeah we've. Michael Worth: gone too far to the story that's what's gonna probably get the doctor to come he's like the killer will happen that often up it's happening again kind of like supernatural where they're like. Avish Parashar: yeah and then, when we get into act three I think our main character arm. Avish Parashar: I think in the beginning she's like a little freaked out but doesn't take it too seriously I think something happens or an act three she gets more concerned, like all right, maybe she like tries to call the police, who, just like there's this guy and he's doing something I don't understand. Michael Worth: huh yeah at this point in time, also the body count starts to stack up. Avish Parashar: Now, is where the friends really start to die. Michael Worth: yeah yeah buddy counts decks up and then. Avish Parashar: I think we yeah we see a lot of the Friends die here. Michael Worth: yeah yeah i've already got a game for that i've already got a great game for at three. Avish Parashar: So I think, by the end of X three it's pretty much just the two main characters and the villain or left alive like yep yep. Michael Worth: And this act for is going to be it's it's this late in the game they become proactive, this is when they set a trap for the killer and they work together to. Michael Worth: kill the killer or get them arrested or something like that so act for it's all about turning the tables on the killer and luring him in right. Avish Parashar: yeah although you almost never see any slasher movies, they very rarely become proactive like in Friday night my mom she she kind of did, but in like in Halloween. Avish Parashar: lori shoulders of running for her life right and Friday the 13th is running for a life and scream that is running for their lives, like in there's very little table turning in slasher movies, which isn't to say, we can have that. Michael Worth: front of the name or she was the only one where she set up all those. Avish Parashar: home alone yeah she said. Avish Parashar: He said the booby traps up in 10 minutes wow so. Michael Worth: We just use that in our own Facebook group were like let's talk about lead reality of time dilation there okay so yeah. Avish Parashar: So I do say it's like. Avish Parashar: It a lot of ways act for in these and that's a time where we can keep going the slasher movie is a it's like one giant chase sequence, and maybe. Avish Parashar: The obsessive protagonist is trying to be more proactive and this is where the like at Halloween it was lori strode and Dr loomis didn't meet till the very like last frame basically um, but they can meet earlier, and then the doctor and the main girl can work together to to try to stop. Michael Worth: Okay yeah let's let's go let's go to act for like it's down to the last two and it becomes like a big ol like fight and flight, for your life kind of thing you know. Avish Parashar: yeah and you know, there can be a turning of the tables. Avish Parashar: But even like terminator right which a lot of ways is like a slasher movie. Avish Parashar: uh huh you know she doesn't turn the tables until the very, very, very end, like the last you know you're terminated fokker. Michael Worth: Oh yeah which is great yeah and they kept on and Cameron kept on giving you the false ending on that. Avish Parashar: I think goes off and name but she's just running for her life until she. Avish Parashar: kind of figures out the very end, how to you know crush the terminator to that. Michael Worth: yeah yeah it's true so we can go that, and that means that we have the choice to go mysterious death or final death, especially when I want to do a sequel could just do final death or. Avish Parashar: Or is it. Avish Parashar: Like I said. Avish Parashar: His death in the last Halloween that came out a few years ago it was definitive he was like trapped Bernadette they watch and burn and he's coming back. Michael Worth: that's what he does all right, we got we got ourselves a good flow here.
THE OMEN American diplomat Robert secretly adopts Damien when his wife, Katherine delivers a stillborn child. As a series of mysterious events and violent deaths occur around the family and Damien enters childhood, they come to learn he is in fact the prophesied Antichrist. Craig is joined by Avish Parashar and Michael worth of the In a World... Improvised Movie Homages podcast to discuss antichrist or regular child, decapitations, Atticus Finch killing kids and the move “The Omen” on this week's Matinee Villains. Show Notes 1:12 Craig, Avish Parashar and Michael Worth discuss their podcast In a World... Improvised Movie Homages. 9:46 Craig, Avish and Michael discuss "The Omen" 52:12 Recasting 1:17:57 Double Feature 1:22:32 Final Thoughts 1:29:08 A preview of next week's episode "They Lie" Next week we continue Matinee Villains month and celebrate episode 250 with "They Live"
THE OMEN American diplomat Robert secretly adopts Damien when his wife, Katherine delivers a stillborn child. As a series of mysterious events and violent deaths occur around the family and Damien enters childhood, they come to learn he is in fact the prophesied Antichrist. Craig is joined by Avish Parashar and Michael worth of the In a World... Improvised Movie Homages podcast to discuss antichrist or regular child, decapitations, Atticus Finch killing kids and the move “The Omen” on this week's Matinee Villains. Show Notes 1:12 Craig, Avish Parashar and Michael Worth discuss their podcast In a World... Improvised Movie Homages. 9:46 Craig, Avish and Michael discuss "The Omen" 52:12 Recasting 1:17:57 Double Feature 1:22:32 Final Thoughts 1:29:08 A preview of next week's episode "They Lie" Next week we continue Matinee Villains month and celebrate episode 250 with "They Live"
INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE Welcome to Episode 26 of Season 3 Show Notes To celebrate Matinee Villains month we have a upcoming guests Avish Parashar and Michael Worth of the In a World Improvised Movie Homages going toe to toe to recast Interview with a Vampire. If you want to watch the show, you can head over to matineeheroes.com/castoff where you'll find all the links to past and current episodes. Feel free to email MHCastoff@gmail.com to offer up feedback, suggest movies for the Castoff or just to say "hey". You can also watch the CastOFF! live every Tuesday 9pm/6pm ET/PT on http://twitch.tv/matineeheroes & https://youtube.com/channel/UCnxw7gfxe_ChqBXnchT8vFA
INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE Welcome to Episode 26 of Season 3 Show Notes To celebrate Matinee Villains month we have a upcoming guests Avish Parashar and Michael Worth of the In a World Improvised Movie Homages going toe to toe to recast Interview with a Vampire. If you want to watch the show, you can head over to matineeheroes.com/castoff where you'll find all the links to past and current episodes. Feel free to email MHCastoff@gmail.com to offer up feedback, suggest movies for the Castoff or just to say "hey". You can also watch the CastOFF! live every Tuesday 9pm/6pm ET/PT on http://twitch.tv/matineeheroes & https://youtube.com/channel/UCnxw7gfxe_ChqBXnchT8vFA
About This Episode In this episode, we pay homage to The Omen movie as well as other movies about the antichrist like Rosemary's Baby, the Seventh Sign, and others. We recently guested on the Matinee Heroes Podcast to discuss The Omen (the 1976 movie, not the 2006 remake). So it made total sense to do an Omen episode for our show too. We both really love The Omen, and Mike is a practicing Catholic so we get some hymns in there too. Plus wolves, burning zoo animals, and a weird dude named Oman. It's a ton of fun! Links Matinee Heroes: http://matineeheroes.com/ Our Appearance on The Omen Episode of Matinee Heroes: (Coming Soon) The Omen on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Omen List of fictional antichrists on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_Antichrists Rosemary's Baby on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary%27s_Baby_(film) The Seventh Sign on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seventh_Sign Time Codes Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 05:07 Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 11:12 Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 17:05 Start of show: 26:54 Improv Game - Countdown: 27:10 Improv Game - Best of Times, Worst of Times: 30:39 Improv Game - One Word at a Time Typewriter: 39:42 Improv Game - Last Letter, First Letter: 48:37 Improv Game - Cutting Room: 57:09 End of show, into announcements: 1:12:30 More Information About the Show, Mike, and Avish Subscribe to the podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-a-world-of-improvised-movie-homages/id1585143668?itsct=podcast_box_link&itscg=30200&ls=1 Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) ONE Avish Parashar: Now we're going to spend about five minutes talking about the tropes of this kind of movie that cliches and commonalities. Avish Parashar: So i'm going to set my little timer here and Mike why don't you kick us off when you think of the omen or movies about this child of the devil, you know could be like rosemary's baby even. Avish Parashar: Other movies, like that what comes to mind. Michael Worth: So a couple things in in no particular order this isn't quite as narratively like when I think what I don't think of this happens and this happens is more like things existence there's always a shadow cult. Michael Worth: That basically you're saying this. Michael Worth: That are helping this child come to fruition so you've got some sort of satanic shadow coffee work in the shadows. Avish Parashar: yeah because the kid is obviously a kid so can't really defend themselves so there's right. Avish Parashar: always like creepy people and. Avish Parashar: There may be overt but there's always some who are like kovar. Avish Parashar: Are there someone close to the main character is secretly in the call or arm, you know, like in the case, the oh man, the nanny is like straight up like i'm a member, no one knows it but right. Michael Worth: The other the other variation you could see is that various people in positions of power so like they go to the police and it turns out, the police, Lieutenant some Members. Michael Worth: They can't they can't kind of get past certain elements of power because they're actually in on it um parents, what are the parents like I think in general they're not like broken or dysfunction that's half the fun is that they're pretty normal upstanding parents. Avish Parashar: yeah usually there you know once in a while you'll see a story where there's some tension and they're hoping the baby will bring them together more but yeah usually it's a. Avish Parashar: it's a solid family um you know the husband and wife are in love you know they're happy to have a kid it's not like an accident that regretting. Avish Parashar: So it's a good, solid family and. Avish Parashar: i'm obviously like unexplained stuff happens like people die, but in. Avish Parashar: mysterious ways they disappear, they die through weird accidents, though, you know it's not like a slasher comes up and kills them or someone gets killed during a. Avish Parashar: home burglary it's like oh you just have to be walking under this piano that was being moved in it fell on your head right right. Michael Worth: And something else that goes with that there's almost always dark animal not avatars, what do you call it the familiars like. Michael Worth: Like crows and wolves or in this case rottweilers you know there there's always these kinds of animals that are either the agents of Satan or like symbolic of the agents of same so there's always these animal evil familiars. Avish Parashar: yeah and there's the. Avish Parashar: there's usually like the the slow revelation usually one of the parents is more of a victim and one is like the proactive one. Avish Parashar: yeah and there's like that midpoint scene, where they suddenly finally they don't fully accept but they start to think hmm maybe there is something evil about my kid I need to like investigate this further. Michael Worth: yeah now that drives into so at that point, the the parents, so this is a really good thing in these kind of movie the midpoint is a great flip from passive to active for the parents So the first thing is setting up. Michael Worth: The tone of dread for the viewer right the kid is obviously like tainted by evil weird things happen the weirdest thing is oftentimes the kid doesn't even really behave evil like he's not like malicious it's more like. Michael Worth: dark forces conspire to put them in these positions so he's he's tainted by evil, but at the midpoint the parents kind of fix that was wrong and they start getting proactive towards either defeating the kid. Michael Worth: driving out the demon killing him whatever so that's that mid point is when the parents go from reactive to proactive. Avish Parashar: Well, as a whole, like learning sequence to where like usually in that when they get proactive they. Avish Parashar: there's almost always experts usually religious people like they talked to priests about what the heck is going on yeah you see this another movie that's similar to this is the the seven sign with demi Moore and and hicks. Michael Worth: calories Michael bay. yeah I. Michael Worth: think that the six days there in that world to a devil's advocate it's not the same as a child theme, but you know there's. Avish Parashar: The main character always seeks out counselor advice, usually from a priest to kind of goes into the prophecy and the things to look for and yeah yeah. Michael Worth: By the way, in the seventh side did she end up giving birth to the baby and keeping it, because this is kind of important thing, she did. Avish Parashar: She dies in birth, I think, is the whole point. Michael Worth: Okay. Avish Parashar: So that's one of the few I think most of these movies have kind of a downer or dark ending. Avish Parashar: that's it kind of doesn't. Michael Worth: But yeah she gives I don't she don't she gives her soul to the baby, so the baby will be the. Avish Parashar: Right, because all being without her baby was me the first baby born without a soul, so at the end gives her life is. Michael Worth: So this is the big thing at the end at the end, no matter what's happened let's say the baby is giving birth or they're going to try and kill the kid one parent dies, the other parent either dies, or is it. Michael Worth: converted. Avish Parashar: converted yeah they. Michael Worth: They fail to kill the kid and die or they're just like they fall from grace, you know that's obviously it's rosemary's baby. Avish Parashar: Right yeah spa heroes, maybe ending at the end. Avish Parashar: as well, so my baby so i'm gonna raise it. Michael Worth: yeah listen if you guys and girls listen to this have not seen. Michael Worth: Years ago right yes shame on you then right that that. Michael Worth: You got spoilers uh it's actually not that. Avish Parashar: plot no all right that's our time yeah the plot points are pretty straightforward characters events, I mean the one thing we didn't mention is using these movies, the music sucks. Avish Parashar: Terrible absolute horrible music. Michael Worth: Nobody ever gets any awards from it never. Avish Parashar: Ever with an Oscar for writing a dark mass right. Avish Parashar: If you don't know this, by now, we are kidding oh man is just an amazing score yeah. Michael Worth: amazing movie general and the if you go over to Craig presses podcast you will hear me talk about the score, so I will give you, you can go over there to learn all the trivia points because hey give credit spreads podcast yeah. Avish Parashar: Exactly alright, so we, that is the end of our genre discussion which brings us to the next segment. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: Alright, so now we're going to spend five minutes hashing out a just kind of high level outline of this movie. Avish Parashar: We will take you through a four act structure which is like the three act structure we just split Act two into two parts one, the first half more reactive second is more proactive so. Avish Parashar: Now this is what the outline we create disclaimer is improv comedy so there's a good chance we will hear from it once we get. Michael Worth: It indoors you so. Avish Parashar: yeah so. Michael Worth: So they're. Avish Parashar: All right, so we will normally start with a prologue or trailer. Michael Worth: i'm feeling prologue we got to set things up. Avish Parashar: Like yeah the birth or whatever the. Michael Worth: yeah yeah right, and you know what you're saying the birth let's let's go for it let's get let's get the kid into the into the into the movie let's not have this all be about the woman being pregnant. Avish Parashar: yeah we'll have a kid not a pregnant mom okay So then, so there what is that so again we're gonna be since we did just talk about the omen and appear m&a hear a song about the moment it's this episode of things may be very much an homage to the omen so yeah. Avish Parashar: So in act one the kid at this point will be a little kid like five years old, or so. Avish Parashar: yeah so an act one we there's some happiness right you kind of set the platform where things are pretty good. Michael Worth: yeah yeah I got this man I got an idea that tell me if i'm overriding by doing this right parents are happy get mom and dad are up and coming right. Michael Worth: All good things start happening because roadblocks their happiness something tragic happens so they're like they want to get this new house and the couple's like i'm sorry the asking price is too high, and like something happens to one of the owners that are able to sell. Avish Parashar: Okay yeah yes, a mysterious good stuff happens. Michael Worth: But but but it results from bad stuff happening to other people right. Avish Parashar: yeah. Michael Worth: mysterious fortune for the family. Avish Parashar: And then I think at the end of act one, I think we need. Avish Parashar: I think we need the introduction of the the cult person. Michael Worth: Agreed person or the culture, just a person who knows. Avish Parashar: something bad needs to happen. Avish Parashar: This is where kind of the turn comes um. Avish Parashar: yeah and then kind of introduced to the the head. Avish Parashar: Or the covert like cult person yeah that's the. Michael Worth: One that makes sense right yeah okay cool. Avish Parashar: So now an act to um I think a lot of people need to start dying people who are maybe like the investigators, people who are trying to. Avish Parashar: You know there's a there's like that we didn't talk about this in this tropes, but there is, you know the group or the small group of people that are aware of the this person's the Antichrist yep and they're trying to warn the parents or they're trying to kill the kid. Avish Parashar: And these people need to start getting people, some people know the truth or suspect the truth may need to start getting knocked off yeah. Michael Worth: At the same time in act one all these fortuitous events happen to the family and he knows all being caused by Satan maneuvering the pieces, but an act to this is when the weird shit starts happening to the family left the crow start. Michael Worth: Gathering around the kids bedroom window and the the the the let's say they're like a condo or something all the groundskeeper people are like kind of weird or they're hovering around and stuff they start to feel like. Michael Worth: Because now it's like right now they're like trying to like zero in on the family and like keep this kid krista grooming this kid right they got the. Avish Parashar: yeah and we see how like the. Avish Parashar: The kid gets sort of mysterious he protected like you know the parents trying to punish the kid gets really upset and then all of a sudden, like a dog appears or something so like there's like coincidental threats that happen. Avish Parashar: yeah action threats. Michael Worth: incidental protective yeah exactly and that and that culminates with. Michael Worth: Like let's say, one of the investigators in front of the family has a real mysterious death or something and in the family that's what the husband, the wife for like maybe they get approached by an investigator kind of like whatever the open they got killed in there all right. Avish Parashar: there's something going on with it yeah some point, and act to the one of the people that knows about the kid needs to let the parents know. Avish Parashar: yep we're just gonna activate. And then die. Michael Worth: So then, at three is them gathering information, building a way to kind of defeat the kid could be. Avish Parashar: Learning yep but meanwhile they're doing that the kid is still wreaking havoc, you know people are still dying bad things are happening. Michael Worth: yeah yeah okay cool all right. Avish Parashar: I think you're an activity like I think in the beginning of activity, the parent hasn't fully embraced it but by the end then they're like oh yeah my kids the devil. Michael Worth: it's highly likely, one of the parents will die at the end of act three. Michael Worth: yeah remember we do for extraction at the end of act three is really the end of back to. Avish Parashar: ya know traditional. Michael Worth: APP APP for is the is the race against time right it's like the one or both parents is trying to finish the spell kill the kid whatever. Michael Worth: The evil satanic coven is trying to protect the kid and it's just kind of a. Avish Parashar: You know yeah it's the parents doing whatever they need to to try to save sometimes apparently tries to save the kid. Avish Parashar: doesn't always necessarily be i'm going to kill my child but it's like a good exercise the demon got to drive the devil out or kill the kid yeah and the cult is sending the cold people the mysterious events, the animals like everything's trying to stop the parent from doing it. Michael Worth: I swear to God if we make this thing funny it's a minor friggin miracle. Avish Parashar: Oh it's gonna be fine it's demonic calls in Paris, trying to kill their children is inherently funny and I think we're gonna find that out. Michael Worth: I think I think we're gonna we're going to demonstrate that over the next 30 or 40 minutes, and then you know what let's leave it up to our improv as to. Whether. Michael Worth: they're successful. Avish Parashar: Oh yeah. Michael Worth: we'll see kind of a surprise. Avish Parashar: Well, at the end right so that was my duck timer I think we got a pretty pretty solid outline for our for X, plus a prologue yeah which brings us to our third segment.
About This Episode In this episode, we pay homage to all James Bond movies like A View to a Kill, Moonraker, Goldfinger, and the new release, No Time to Die. James Bond is timeless, and Blaine Jawn is our own timeless (?) improv comedy homage to the classic spy. In this episode we create a James Bond movie that features evil organizations, globe trotting escapades, action, doomsday devices, and, of course, romance and sex. Links James Bond on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond No Time to Die on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Time_to_Die Time Codes Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 05:59 Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 11:19 Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 17:53 Start of show: 21:35 Improv Game - Countdown: 22:23 Improv Game - DoubleSpeak: 27:41 Improv Game - A to Z: 34:29 Improv Game - Best of Times, Worst of Times: 40:15 Improv Game - Questions Switch: 46:10 Improv Game - Cutting Room: 50:29 End of show, into announcements: 1:01:38 More Information About the Show, Mike, and Avish Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Far From Disney - Transcription Avish Parashar: Segment one discussing the genre tropes. Avish Parashar: Yes, and our five minute starts now all right let's talk James Bond tropes. Michael Worth: yeah alright so um now again we're not doing James Bond we're doing James Bond esque. Avish Parashar: yeah so yeah. Michael Worth: So where's main character is. Avish Parashar: soiree dad came off. Michael Worth: lethal but also charismatic. Avish Parashar: yeah the ladies man yep. Michael Worth: This is, this is the main character he's got a high integrity like incorruptible but also. Michael Worth: It is a bit of ends justify the means. Avish Parashar: Right yeah you got does whatever he has to he. Avish Parashar: You know, he, like he's he's high integrity, but he also like doesn't care all that much about authority yeah like i'll follow orders he doesn't admission but he's not above going outside the lines and yeah right. Michael Worth: The villain is I mean God it's like pretty much writes itself the villain is usually. Avish Parashar: there's usually guys like a mastermind the main villain is usually not physically imposing usually usually is like a mastermind a scientist or rich or politician. Michael Worth: But of course he has the henchmen yeah. Avish Parashar: it's funny it's kind of it's not that dissimilar from last week in terms of the basic character structure, like last week, something got a villain that got henchmen there's a maintenance man, you know, like jaws or grace Jones or whatever. Michael Worth: yeah the edge had some sort of an effect modification device specialized weapon. Avish Parashar: yeah right yeah some kind of a unique identifier. Michael Worth: Oh yeah the villain villain is mastermind made a lot of smart enough physically imposing often rich and powerful. Michael Worth: As he needs to to to fund his maniacal scheme. Michael Worth: alright. Avish Parashar: there's always a female. Avish Parashar: yep femme fatale type. Avish Parashar: Usually i'm. Avish Parashar: Either like always involved somehow the story, like the the plot you either it's one of three things right it's either like a scientist or someone germane to the the technology it's going to be used or it's a spy on his side or it's a spy on the other side. Michael Worth: that's true yeah. Avish Parashar: it's one of those yeah. Michael Worth: yeah so and some dogs are two female but we may not be able to get to two females in this we just have to have one. Avish Parashar: Just yeah for this one will probably just need one, but you know another one may show up but yeah there's a femme fatale who's. Avish Parashar: capable depends what era of James Bond we're talking and earlier areas would often end up being like a damsel in distress, but in later would be more capable and really able to. Michael Worth: Although you'd be surprised pussy galore in goldfinger was surprisingly capable, it was Jane seymour in live and let die that was pretty much the she was the Oracle she was the seer she was the classic like. Avish Parashar: can't really yeah yeah a few through the are they kind of you know, in yeah yo. Michael Worth: yo baby host. Avish Parashar: Michelle yeoh came back right, but that was after a couple others that were more like just very passive so. Avish Parashar: yeah alright so yeah get a femme fatale got a henchman other platforms there's usually a huge complicated plot like life world ending or changing. Michael Worth: You know what blood we gonna tackle it's almost always he gets sent on a mission to discover one thing and then discovers the real plot, which is totally unrelated. Michael Worth: Like I was watching the living daylights don't ask me oh yeah cuz he did with the latest podcast remember it was like oh he's cheating with horse races. Avish Parashar: yeah That was a view to a kill but yeah. Michael Worth: Have you don't kill yeah. Avish Parashar: yeah there's like there's like a first plot. Michael Worth: A false first plot with a false flag. Avish Parashar: That reveals the big plot. Michael Worth: This is going to be harder than I thought. Avish Parashar: We may again we're going to streamline and this is what we're playing around with right now. Avish Parashar: yeah yeah the huge plot it's, this is another challenge will have its multi location right everybody who's got almost at least three different cities around the world and they're. Michael Worth: Always exotic and beautiful. Avish Parashar: exotic. Avish Parashar: Beautiful there's. Avish Parashar: Usually sex often more than one person bond has sex with like there's us like a previous random person or hence woman or a lackey. Avish Parashar: yeah yeah yes excellent like early in the movie and then he has sex at the end with the main female. Michael Worth: Right right that's me a fade to black moment for our show shows PG 13 minus the swearing. Michael Worth: yeah um so uh. Michael Worth: And then there's always a big um final like not battling a final stage battle. Michael Worth: yeah which is usually on a very dramatic. Avish Parashar: location yeah, but this is an epic. Avish Parashar: Oh there's also always like earlier there's the mission debriefing scene and the gadgets and the gadget seed. Michael Worth: Oh yeah yeah yeah act one has the mission debriefing. Michael Worth: misha OPS and gadgets. Avish Parashar: The brief that gadgets any user the gadgets throughout yeah. Michael Worth: And then I mean. Avish Parashar: I was five minutes, so any final tropes you want to throw in there. Michael Worth: Now that's gonna get a start, I think that was the big thing we got was the idea of the false first plot into the into the real plot. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up) Avish Parashar: Excellent well done all right, so now segment to creating the outline. Avish Parashar: All right, let us now make our outline and we start with a four act structure you prior to three act structure we just split Act two into two X, we have four X opening. Michael Worth: It just helps me with the Games yeah. Avish Parashar: yep Okay, so now we kind of go back and forth on our format, do we want to start with a trailer or do we want to start with the. Avish Parashar: Because bondo is has that like prologue scene. Michael Worth: He has a cold open scene yeah. Avish Parashar: yeah so we can do both, but I think, for the sake of time for today, we should just pick one either we do a trailer or we do the high action prologue. Avish Parashar: I think I think I actually yeah for bond, and then we need a prologue yeah which that's like that that starts that opening mission that may or may not be related to the. Avish Parashar: Somebody moves it's completely unrelated but later they got smarter and that opening mission would somehow lead to the bigger story yes alright so then for act one. Avish Parashar: So we got a lot of stuff has to happen and. Avish Parashar: He needs to. Avish Parashar: He needs to get briefed. Avish Parashar: He needs the tech right the briefing and the tech he needs to go on his first exposure first level mission. Michael Worth: investigated mission yeah. Avish Parashar: you'd still usually meet the female. Avish Parashar: Usually often meet at the villain and or the henchmen the main henchmen at this point. Avish Parashar: They usually cross paths it in act one. yeah. Avish Parashar: don't write will have ways of jamming this all in there i'm. Avish Parashar: Right and oftentimes if i'm wrong he actually ended up succeeding, and the first mission, but even though he succeeds, and when you realize it allows the much beer plot. Avish Parashar: yeah yeah alright, so we got basically got into the celebrity two sections and enact one he's got to do the briefing and the tech. Avish Parashar: And then the whole sequence, where he goes on the mission meets the female meets the villains and succeeds or fails in that mission so it's kind of like too many parts there and. Michael Worth: yeah yeah the foils the first mission that you know, the first or he discovers the first he got kind of figures out and solves the first mission, but a lot of times you might not even. Michael Worth: be like Oh, we figured out that the again he was doping, the horses and then we can figure out what they're like, but then he finds out the next thing it's like well let's not worry about the horse. Avish Parashar: Sometimes it's like kind of unrelated likely fans were adobe in the horses, but while I was investigating adobe horses, I came across a meth lab I came across a. Avish Parashar: I came across a device that wants to destroy California like. Avish Parashar: Oh, we should do something about that. Avish Parashar: Alright, so in Act two so he's so usually Act two is the investigating learning so obviously each one's got a different exotic location so act one will be in one locale act to be a different locale. Michael Worth: Yes, um, this is actually where he is okay, so this is putting the other pieces of the puzzle as to how this he finds out the first plan at the end of act one the real plan to is where he discovers kind of. Avish Parashar: I feel like act one at the end of act one he discovers that there is a bigger plan, but he doesn't quite know what it is like a lot of time to like find a name like what is Center just. Avish Parashar: Go find out. Michael Worth: Right right right that's why I was researching various locations he's putting the other pieces of the puzzle usually like one locations where equipments being built one location is like when are various you know. Avish Parashar: Right, so an act to, I think, is where he needs to actually discover what the plan is. Avish Parashar: And usually the female will be with him. Michael Worth: And this is where he gets his life threatened and gets one of his first action scenes usually. Avish Parashar: Usually it's a phone after the prologue and sometimes act one now be an action scene too, but. Michael Worth: yeah but really active for a lot of good stuff have you been on a train and like he's climbing up. Avish Parashar: And there may or may not be the main henchmen but they'll definitely be henchmen yes to like do stuff. Avish Parashar: yeah alright so act three is by this point he's kind of. Avish Parashar: he's got a sense of what the plot is like what the bad guys plan is arm. Avish Parashar: And now, he wants to go and try to either learn more about or stop it. Avish Parashar: right kind of shifts modes and, like all right now we know um. Avish Parashar: Oh, you know, the one thing we left out, it was happens almost every bond movie which may be, this will be part of Act two is there's always an undercover element where he, like. Avish Parashar: pretend to be somebody else to like learn more right, so I think it has to be active if he's gonna go in disguise, as you know, Jim Jim Smythe or whoever. Michael Worth: The slide. Michael Worth: slide so brilliant disagree with the Brits called St john surgeon that's actually. Avish Parashar: I had no idea. Michael Worth: That I until I saw. Avish Parashar: Engine that's weird. Avish Parashar: All right, so uh so actually then he. Avish Parashar: Usually gets revealed add like singles minds Dr James Bond at the end of Act two so now he gets proactive proactive either in learning a proactive investigating or trying to stop. Michael Worth: At this stage of the game. Michael Worth: he's starting to stop the. Michael Worth: starting to stop the plot. Michael Worth: and Avish Parashar: that's five minutes, but we can go for like another minute to finish up every. Michael Worth: frickin James Bond. Michael Worth: yeah stop the plot at this point he attracts. Michael Worth: The attention of the bad guy and, if I remember correctly, this is where. Michael Worth: numero UNO henchmen. Michael Worth: tries to kill bond and bond narrowly escaped. Avish Parashar: yeah there's usually some kind of a. Michael Worth: New Order to tries to kill bond. Michael Worth: The bond narrowly escaped or spy bond, you know. Avish Parashar: By the end of act three the whole plot is definitely known like what the bad guys plan is which lead to act for which is the. Avish Parashar: At the final location, you know, whatever the device or the thing is the headquarters is it just the big confrontation that point like he's got to sneak and he's got to get to the bad guy and fight the bad guy and then, when it's. Michael Worth: almost always stealth, followed by disruption. Michael Worth: Of the plan, followed by killing henchmen then villain. Michael Worth: And then, and then the oral sex. Avish Parashar: Well, yes what's your sex. Michael Worth: was all gives a good spanking. Avish Parashar: All right, okay so that's our outline and. Michael Worth: When you read it a James Bond thing it looks like the fever dream of a horny 14 year old.
About this episode In this episode, we pay homage to classic summer camp movies, like the Meatballs movie with Bill Murray or the Poison Ivy movie (the one with Micheal J. Fox, not the one with Drew Barrymore…) We attempt the difficult task of juggling a cast of characters in this ensemble style movie homage and, overall, it went pretty well. Five main kid campers, one good counselor, one bad rival camper, one bad rival counselor, and a few additional characters. A challenge, but lots of fun! Links: Meatballs movie on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meatballs_(film) Poison Ivy movie on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison_Ivy_(1985_film) Time codes Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 05:00 Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 11:53 Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 19:04 Start of show: 26:33 Improv Game - Movie Trailer: 26:39 Improv Game - Cocktail Party: 28:10 Improv Game - Ding: 38:13 Improv Game - A to Z Story: 48:08 Improv Game - Cutting Room: 57:08 End of show, into announcements: 1:10:36 More Information about the show, Mike, and Avish Subscribe to the podcast: Our Website: www.AvishAndMike.com Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/143183833647812 Avish's site: www.AvishParashar.com Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/ Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and un-cleaned up) Avish Parashar: Alright, so first what we are going to do is we're going to spend five minutes talking about the cliches and tropes of the genre and commonalities so Mike I know you said you haven't seen a. Michael Worth: One of these in a while. Avish Parashar: But what do you think of when you think of your camp a movie. Michael Worth: Well, usually it's kind of a bit of a fish out of water kind of thing, so what happens usually is is the hero is usually a semi normal person. That goes to this camp, the camp is, of course, run by a bunch of oddball misfits and there's this kind of very caricature people so that's, the first thing I think of is that. The main character is kind of the voice of the audience or the eyes of the audience and they're just basically experiencing this really bizarre off the wall loony environment. Avish Parashar: that's kind of one yeah and I feel like there's always two sort of storylines. One is like the counselors and one is the kids. And they obviously overlap, but you know I think you're like main character you're kind of normal one is the counselor usually um and then there's always like there's always a kid who's like shy or introverted. Who's like that the main kid character yep and they sort of become the hero, in the end, somehow. Michael Worth: Right or they have a heroic moment one of their specific skill sets kind of thing that's a very classic thing right there their skill set. Avish Parashar: Just yeah because. These movies always build up to something usually a competition, like a a with both meatballs and poison Ivy have like the color war, the competition with the other camp. Yeah and that's where the that's The thing that all misfits like even if they're cool there's always like a nerdy Karen nerdy camp kid there's usually like an overweight camp kid that there was making fat jokes about. Michael Worth: yeah yeah. jock there's a there is a romance that often bruise and uh it's usually, let's let's focus on the kids for Saturday we'll get to the counselors usually the romance blooms between um well usually the main character um. And he usually has to grow or do something to kind of convert the love interest from looking at him in one way to look at him in another way right you don't mean like he has overcome some sort of that character flawed character limitation. Avish Parashar: yeah, although I will say that I find that more of the counselors I feel like the kids are little young to get to like too much of. Michael Worth: That as a counselor yeah yeah maybe that is the cows would be like the team counselors right they're not like adults but uh. Oh yeah the counselor there's like a boy or a male or female counselor and you know. Avish Parashar: yeah usually it's you know. guys trying to impress the girl who's either got a boyfriend or isn't interested and he kind of has to like grow and overcome and show her that he's actually not just a goofball. Michael Worth: Now, who are the bad guys in these kind of things, is it usually a rival camp. Avish Parashar: there's yeah I would say there's two ways of going there's the rival camp um, although I think the only see the rival camp at the actual competitions rival camp. But then I think within the camp itself there's there's like the bullish so you know in camps you generally have like your cabin right your cabin mates and they're all kind of. Cool, but then it's like another cabin that maybe has more of a bully or the Council who's like the the head counselor who's like dominating and doesn't like or maybe it's a rival for their romances interest. Michael Worth: yeah yeah so, so this is actually a pretty deep movie thinking about what we've got is we've got. The kid that comes to Camp right um he's gonna be like one of the main characters he's surrounded by these misfits to be so kind of become one with there's a there's a rival cabin full of jerks. At the Council level there's the cool counselor who's who's peripherally involved with the with the with the good guy kids. But then there's usually an evil head counselor or an evil rival counselor that is. But the rabbit had cancer is kind of like incumbent he kind of like he doesn't really make life miserable for the good counselor because good counselor is like bill Murray, he just kind of skates through just like everything's. Avish Parashar: Dallas over much rule following like this is the way things have to be done. yeah and the Council is more like bonding like the main character Council more bonding with the kids and things to help them come out of their shells and grow. Michael Worth: Exactly so he's got a mentor he becomes kind of a bit of a mentor figure um you know, in a comedic way and then yeah culminates with you some big competition. And you know what for this maybe we'll just keep it within the camp where it's like the cab there's an intro cabin competition, and so the misfits like revenge of the nerds there's somebody that can be similar to that right. Avish Parashar: Well yeah I mean it's not exactly camp, but I mean college is basically camp for 18 year olds. Michael Worth: camp with booze basically. Avish Parashar: yeah yeah it's a similar type thing, though, builds off of the outcasts they have their strengths, they got bullies and then they have the final competition. Michael Worth: yeah definitely definitely the second tier characters are character matures like there's like very little character depth to any of the buddies in the good guy there. Avish Parashar: yeah they've got their role like. Michael Worth: It yeah right there there there Arc types right there dork. Avish Parashar: The job or. Michael Worth: The awakened uh. Avish Parashar: it's like sometimes like a sex crazed one. Michael Worth: yeah yeah yeah what is obsessed with those sneaking over to the girls locker room and see stuff. yeah there is. I don't care.I didn't care there's the token Asian there's always this and it's usually the nerdy. Avish Parashar: 180s movie definitely. Michael Worth: I don't care if you want to race with whatever dude that we're we're we're supposed to. Avish Parashar: Be token Asian character, I don't know if we're gonna put on the effective. Michael Worth: Asian accent for do I can't do that no. Avish Parashar: we're right now we're just talking about the tropes there's yes. they're all tokens right there's like a token black kid of the token Asian kid yep. If we're talking about an 80s cat movie then like you know the token Asian kids going to be the nerd of the gadget kid you know, like data from from the goonies. Michael Worth: yeah exactly oh short round. Avish Parashar: All right, well, that was our timer so that brings us to the end of our. Discussing the genre tropes. Michael Worth: yeah it's actually surprisingly fluid genre. Avish Parashar: yeah it's it's pretty straightforward but there's a lot of like moving parts that may or may not find the ways yeah. Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and un-cleaned up) Avish Parashar: Alright, so now we are going to spend five minutes talking about the outline Mike and I are going to hash out. Our outline we use a for act structure if you're familiar with the three act structure there's that's the standard storytelling when we just break act to into two parts. So he's a for extra just works better with the improv and kind of helping define the story what happens at the end is when we go to perform it we may not stick completely to this outline just because the nature of improv but. This is going to be our starting point, so our five minutes starts now. Okay alright. So first do we want, we start with a trailer or a prologue. I feel for this it's probably makes more sense to a trailer I don't know the prologue really. Michael Worth: yeah um I think the trailer might make more sense actually so we'll do that we'll we'll do some sort of trailer. Avish Parashar: OK. Michael Worth: that'd be easy F1 a pretty easy, which is a main a kid character or main camera character. Avish Parashar: yeah it's kind of like day one at the camp right like. Michael Worth: yeah arrives at Camp yeah. Avish Parashar: They want arrive you kind of meet the misfits you meet the counselor you sort of meet everyone. Michael Worth: meet the misfits meet. uncle good guy counselor right. Avish Parashar: yeah. Michael Worth: All right, uh let me think at women can browse the camps, do we meet the yeah we meet the bullies at this point. Avish Parashar: yeah and I think i'm. So this is kind of a meeting type thing or you're doing a lot of establishing and then something needs to happen at the end of act one i'm probably something that. You know, puts either the main counselor or the main kid into some kind of situation where they need to succeed. you've got like some kind of twist like oh. Michael Worth: All right. Avish Parashar: A lot of these movies it's like the first act is almost like them going to camp and then act one is like. Act two is like them savage again, but I think that'd be a little too long. Michael Worth: So yeah so aqua at the end of act one a the glove is thrown down that's what's going to happen, something happens where I the main camp or or the main camper and his cabin. The challenges issue it's usually probably going to be like you know, the end of the summer get the color war or the cabin war. Avish Parashar: yeah they kind of meet the right it's almost like the the first interaction with the real bullies happens at the end of act one. Michael Worth: yeah again going back to one crazy summer right when they when they at the end, they have the great yacht race, this is another very used to that. yeah. Avish Parashar: Like building up to that. Michael Worth: With a young JEREMY piven. Avish Parashar: yeah and it's not camp, but in a lot of ways Harry Potter almost is like that right they go to the school they get set up at the school. Is over the year and then it culminates in. Michael Worth: Right. Avish Parashar: Right right whatever at the end zone. Michael Worth: So at two. Avish Parashar: All right, no act one basically just meeting everyone and then kind of having some interaction. With the rival slash bully. Michael Worth: Yes, a Act two is the misfits trying to do activities. Avish Parashar: And I think. This one's yeah and I think what happens in Act two is that they're all kind of doing the activities. Michael Worth: And then let's let's say for this this one that it's like a score all summer so as a whole but there's there's a vestige. Avish Parashar: cumulative score yeah. Michael Worth: yeah cuz then it's vested in them to be like Kevin, we have to build this Derby car, we have to like build this canoe or whatever or. Avish Parashar: Here I would say some, if not all of the kids but definitely the main kid I think is a reluctant participant they're not trying to get away or avoid they're not giving it all the teams are the groups not come together, like they're all sort of. Michael Worth: Like you're not fooling each other but they're not they're. Not clicking. Avish Parashar: yeah they're not clicking there the card sort of like still feeling each other out. Michael Worth: Right and and. It OK and OK, and they might even be getting also sabotage by know as an x three x because we sabotage. So that was the two ends. Avish Parashar: were some event that brings the team together like you know. yeah they they bond over something the bullies do something, but then they all kind of bond together so they kind of a bonding moment and act to. Michael Worth: yeah yeah exactly and that could be also driven. By the counselor the cool counselor like he may be like we're all going to go out and go to a party or something and they all like they all work together to solve a problem or some like that, and then you know, can they kind of. Avish Parashar: yeah like in poison Ivy which I just watched a. Michael Worth: yeah you got to be the expert on ax to sort of ends where. Avish Parashar: i'm the one kid tries to run away but there's some kids would snuck off the the main camp and when the kid gets caught he doesn't. reveal who the other kids were who gave away, and so this the kid who is shy and not bond with anyone, but everyone like suddenly. appreciates him and respects him for not reading them out like that sort of thing happens where they they bond they have some shared experience that makes them bond a little bit. Michael Worth: yeah yeah yeah exactly yeah exactly so now at three the misfits start gaining. Because they started doing really well, and now the bad guys start sabotaging them that was I was gonna say happened before, but like not an act to what happens in that three because the bad guys are like oh man we're started lose points and blah blah blah right. Avish Parashar: yeah and so yeah they do well, but then the bullies bad guys sabotage so from this outline, it seems like, and I think it makes sense for an improv thing is our focus is going to be on the kids I think the counter is going to be, I think, trying to run two parallel stories in this format. Michael Worth: yeah that I wish more people and that's a lot of brainpower man. Avish Parashar: yeah so then for right now we'll keep the focus on the the kid so yeah the bullies sabotage and do things. Avish Parashar: So the kids are doing well and they seem like they might have a chance of winning but then the bullies sabotage and it often ends, I would say, with a disaster or a betrayal so. Michael Worth: Well, I was thinking yeah that's right we're taking extra minute. Avish Parashar: Yes, remember. Michael Worth: The trail like maybe, for example, a bad guy counselor like who's playing by the rules like invalidates them or something like that, like like you know remember overrule he again he's not gonna be a big part of it, but he could be the deus ex makana for the for the betrayal. Avish Parashar: You know, he could invalidate he could come up with some loophole or some fake rule as to why they don't get their points. But betrayal sometimes is like the one of the kids was like forced into sabotaging his own team. Michael Worth: yeah like. Michael Worth: hijacking the thing that they're building or something like that. Avish Parashar: yeah yeah or yeah or someone gets hurt. Michael Worth: This fit black DM blackmailed. Avish Parashar: Like it does like like and meatballs I think like the best runner got injured arm, which is why, like the kid who's like the main character had to run in her place so like there's some kind of disaster at the end of act three. Michael Worth: yeah and now for X four X four is going to be usually there's a final challenge, and this is where it comes down to like because of all the machinations a final challenge. Michael Worth: misfits have to win right and here's where. Look, the creativity of it somehow. Whoever is the the recipient of the Act three issue. comes back like he gets healed or. Avish Parashar: yeah or if he was the betray or he comes back and like steps up. And usually. that's usually not the main kid who's kind of more of a loner and that main kid usually steps up and does something to help them win. Michael Worth: yeah be trey are redeemed himself. yeah and then main character. steps up demonstrates character growth to win the day And become you know the little. Avish Parashar: Like a little heroes last. Michael Worth: Year of the misfits yeah yeah. Avish Parashar: The rudy of that moment. Michael Worth: uh yeah yeah and and, by the way the betrayal, as we said before right is not done by the main character. Avish Parashar: yeah I would say the main character is not the one who does the betraying yeah. Michael Worth: i'm already like okay so who's gonna be shot asked it today, because this is literally going to be a shot. Avish Parashar: Right nothing wrong with a pretty good outline, I think.
Avish Parashar is one of those rare examples of someone who made his passion his business. So many of us settle for less than what makes our heart sing. In love with performance growing up, when he started college he resigned himself to following a traditional and more secure career path to please his family. Then one day he saw improv comedy and everything changed. In this show, Avish shares his journey and how he ended up teaching organisations valuable business skills through improvisation. He is an in demand speaker, weaving together humorous stories, jokes, audience interaction, and improv comedy games, to keep the audience engaged while imparting key lessons. Not only will you learn some new business tools through improv, but you'll also discover some great speaking tips to keep your audience engaged and entertained. What you'll learn: What made Avish fall in love with improv. The challenges you faced in making a career out of your passion. How Avish positioned himself and his content for the corporate world. What a ‘ding' moment is. The biggest ‘ding' moments in Avish's life and how improv helped. The specific business skills that improvisation tools can help improve. How Avish navigates getting the balance right between practical tools, motivation and entertainment in his talks. Why you need to kill your darlings in your talk. What Avish did to get his first speaking gigs. Tips for how to combine doing what you love and earning a living. Why planning is important, but improvising is essential! How learning improv can increase your resilience. How Avish puts his talks together. All things Avish: www.DingHappens.com www.DingHappens.com/podcast https://www.facebook.com/avishparashar https://www.facebook.com/groups/MotivationalImprov http://avishandmike.com Books: The One Thing by Gary Keller Improvise to Success by Avish Parashar Say, “Yes, and” by Avish Parashar Resources: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thespeakingclub/ https://www.saraharcher.co.uk/challenge https://www.facebook.com/SarahArcherSpeak/ https://www.saraharcher.co.uk https://www.standoutpitch.com Thanks for listening! To share your thoughts: leave a comment below. Share this show on Twitter, Facebook or LinkedIn. To help the show out: Leave an honest review on iTunes. Your ratings and review really help get the word out and I read each one. Subscribe on iTunes.
Avish Parashar performed improv all through high school, but he stopped in college so he could focus on his studies – a decision greatly supported by his parents. That decision lasted only a few months, however, as after seeing an improv comedy show, he fell back in love. One week later, he auditioned for the campus improv group and the rest, as they say, is history. After graduating, he started Polywampus Improv Comedy, which performed regularly in and around the Philadelphia area for seven years. He closed up Polywampus to focus on the speaking and training side of the business, using improv comedy as a tool to teach valuable business skills such as creativity, innovation, and adaptability. He's also the best-selling author of “Improvise to Success!” and “Say ‘Yes, And!'” He talks about how improv can be combined with business to cultivate powerful ideas, get over the stress of things you can't control, and have fun. To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: petermargaritis.com Resources: avishparashar.com dinghappens.com/podcast facebook.com/avishparashar Change Your Mindset is a production of Crate Media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Meet the high energy Avish Parshar and hear how his career in comedy and improv led to his brilliant motivational improv workshops. Our mutual friend, Peter Margaritis, introduced us and I was so pleased as we had a great time.
Even if you're not a comedian or a humorist, adding humor to your presentations can be a powerful skill in connecting to your audience and keeping their attention. But using humor at the wrong time, or approaching the wrong subjects can have disastrous results. This week Avish Parashar, CSP, is with us discussing how to add humor to your presentations and how you can come up with more funny ideas and practice your humor right now while you're home. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Even if you're not a comedian or a humorist, adding humor to your presentations can be a powerful skill in connecting to your audience and keeping their attention. But using humor at the wrong time, or approaching the wrong subjects can have disastrous results. This week Avish Parashar, CSP, is with us discussing how to add humor to your presentations and how you can come up with more funny ideas and practice your humor right now while you're home. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode Ricky and JC were on location at 2019 Space Coast SHRM Conference in sunny Melbourne, Florida! JC emceed the event and Ricky delivered a keynote presentation, plus we had a few brave guests drop by the HR Talk booth for on-the-spot interviews: Avish Parashar - www.dinghappens.com Wendy Sellers - www.thehrlady.com Karen Gregory - www.hrssconsultinggrou.com Avery Plavin - www.starstaff.us Maria R. Elie - www.axishrpro.com Robin Westervelt Jared Mangold Suzanne Witnhafer - www.proforma.com
Avish Parashar (@avishp on twitter) returns to talk to host Craig Price his new coaching program for unconventional professions. If you live an unconventional life like I do, you know that getting useful help is a struggle. So many people with conventional jobs offer conventional wisdom that would be great if only you had a "normal" job. Avish struggled with this for a few years until he finally figured a few things out and created a coaching program to help other unconventional professionals too! Avish and Craig talk about how you should take advice, how to get clarity on your place in the market, making sure you understand why people buy from you and more. You can learn more about Avish's new program at http://dinghappens.com/reality
ICYMI: Career Talk now replays on TUESDAYS at 8pmET/5pmPT. Find out what the JAWS response is, and laugh along with Dr. Dawn and Avish Parashar as they share their best tips for your "uh oh" career moments, getting out of a job search rut, and more! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
Avish Parashar, Motivational Speaker, Improv Comedian and Author joins Career Talk to share how to think quickly on your feet, how to remove your foot from your mouth, and how to get out of other "uh oh" situations in your career. Tangible tips (Yes, AND...), combined with lots of laughs on this week's episode of Career Talk! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
Job search red flags, negotiating great offers, how to get unstuck...Career Talk in August has it all! Join Dr. Dawn Graham and her cast of expert guests J.J. Cutler, Job Jenny, Ford Myers and Avish Parashar for tons of practical advice for landing a job that you LOVE! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
Job search red flags, negotiating great offers, how to get unstuck...Career Talk in August has it all! Join Dr. Dawn Graham and her cast of expert guests J.J. Cutler, Job Jenny, Ford Myers and Avish Parashar for tons of practical advice for landing a job that you LOVE! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
Job search red flags, negotiating great offers, how to get unstuck...Career Talk in August has it all! Join Dr. Dawn Graham and her cast of expert guests J.J. Cutler, Job Jenny, Ford Myers and Avish Parashar for tons of practical advice for landing a job that you LOVE! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
Job search red flags, negotiating great offers, how to get unstuck...Career Talk in August has it all! Join Dr. Dawn Graham and her cast of expert guests J.J. Cutler, Job Jenny, Ford Myers and Avish Parashar for tons of practical advice for landing a job that you LOVE! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
Listen to some of the top professionals around argue topics with host Craig Price in a special speaker roundtable. For his 3rd annual speaker roundtable from the National Speakers Association convention in Washington DC, Craig invites past guests Avish Parashar, Patrick Maurer and newcomers Shannon Oleen and Jill Schiefelbein discuss a variety of divisive topics. They cover issues like speaking for free, fee integrity, selling or not selling from the stage, what should you strive to be more motivational as a speaker or a true expert? Opinions are expressed, disagreement abounds yet all in a fun and interesting conversation that any speaker, new or experiences will learn from. Huge thanks go to our sponsor for this episode Elizabeth McCormick with PilotSpeaker.com. Without her there wouldn't have been a podcast. Thanks Elizabeth! You can learn more about these speakers at their websites: Avish Parashar (@avishp on twitter) - http://www.DingHappens.com Patrick Maurer (@PatrickMaurer on twitter) - http://pmaurer.com/ Shannon Oleen (@ShannonOleen on twitter) - http://shannonoleen.com/ Jill Schiefelbein (@dynamicJill on twitter) - http://www.thedynamiccommunicator.com/
Live from San Diego in front of an actual audience, host Craig Price has another speakers round-table! This year, the National Speakers Association invited Craig to do his podcast as part of their annual convention. Craig loaded this speakers round-table with past guests like Judson Laipply, Jessica Pettitt, Avish Parashar as well as welcoming hall of fame speakers Mikki Williams and Dale Irvin to the show. The big announcement of the convention was the new branding of the association now called Platform. The group discusses the pros and cons and then gets into questions about being a speaker. Where do you find mentors, how do you balance speaking with also having a partner (or not having a partner!) and much more. You can learn more about all of these great speakers at their websites: Judson - http://www.mightaswelldance.com/ (@JudsonLaipply on twitter) Jessica - http://www.jessicapettitt.com/ (@jesspettitt on twitter) Avish - http://www.avishparashar.com/ (@avishp on twitter) Mikki - http://www.mikkiwilliams.com/ (@mikkiwilliams on twitter) Dale - http://www.daleirvin.com/ (@ProSummarizer on twitter) APP BONUS: Avish, Craig, Judson and Jessica stick around to answer audience questions like how do you approach potential clients when you have a heavy topic, what was your worst gig and more! SPONSOR: This episode was sponsored by Short Circuit Media helps small business, consultants and professional speakers make more money by using social media (LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter) to create brand awareness, while streamlining online marketing efforts to attract more visitors and convert more sales. http://shortcircuitmedia.com/
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Avish is an energetic and humorous speaker who uses his 20+ years of experience in performing, teaching and studying improv comedy, to show organizations and individuals how to deal with the unexpected - quickly, effectively, and with a sense of humor. He is the author of "Improvise to Success!" and the Amazon best-seller, "Say 'Yes, And!'" and has also created dozens of other products on applying improv skills to business and life.
Host Craig Price celebrates the 100th episode with a speakers roundtable. A collection of past guests (and a new one) talk about being a speaker, their mistakes and why they do it. During the National Speakers Association convention this past July, Craig gathered Avish Parashar, Robert Bradford, Steve Rizzo, Jess Pettitt and new friend Patrick Maurer to talk about the ups and downs of being a speaker. What is a professional speaker? Is it just the check that makes you a professional or is there more to it? What do other speakers do that irritates you? What monumental mistakes have you made (this is where the explicit tag comes into play!)? Why do you do what you do? Get ready for a fun, enlightening discussion as Craig juggles 5 guests at the same time! Some huge thanks go to Ed Rigsbee with the Cigar PEG for the location. Finding a place for 6 people to record was a daunting task but Ed made it easy peasy. Please go to CigarPEG.com and learn about this great charity and how you can contribute. Also thanks to past guest Chip Lutz for being the bouncer at the speakers roundtable. He was the sole audient (is that a word? it is now) and kept the riff-raff out of the room while the podcast was being recorded. One of the cool things about the convention was that so many past guests were in attendance so Craig commissioned a quick group photo to commemorate the occasion.
[Legacy post: Small Business Talent] Avish Parashar is quite possibly the world’s only Motivational Improviser. What does that mean? Well, it means that Avish uses his 20+ years of experience performing, teaching and studying improv comedy to show organizations and individuals how to improvise, adapt, and become more innovative in their presentations and in their […] The post Avish Parashar: Add the Power of Humor to Your Presentations! appeared first on Smart Solo Business.
Avish Parashar (@AvishP on twitter) returns to chat about his latest book “ Say Yes, And ” while Craig tries not to be a “No, But” kind of person. They talk about The Hero’s Journey, using “Yes, And” in business as well as why meetings are the best place to start “Yes, And”-ing. You can find Avish’s new book at Amazon or directly via sayyesand.com
Avish Parashar stops by to talk about improvisation. He and Craig discuss being Indian, using comedy to pick-up women (Spoiler: You can't!) improv as a tool and how being authentic and in the moment can lead to performance magic. Avish is also hosting a 4 day workshop in Las Vegas Oct. 13-16. Visit http://www.thespeakingschool.com for more information. You can also learn more about Avish at his blog http://www.motivationalsmartass.com and http://www.avishparashar.com.
Welcome to the FASD Elephant™ Podcast. After a hiatus for way too long, the podcast is back. I’ve had a very exciting year so far in the world of FASD. A major highlight in February 2011 was four days worth of workshops and talks I gave in Saskatchewan—for The Saskatoon Tribal Council in Saskatoon, for the Prince Albert Parkland Health Region way up in Prince Albert (in February), and for the FASD Support Network of Saskatchewan which had their annual conference called Communities of Hope in Regina. A second highlight this year is that I joined a speakers mentoring group led by Bill O’Hanlon (the psychologist who developed Solution-Focused Therapy, a writer extraordinaire, and prolific speaker in New Mexico), Fred Gleeck (a business speaker who really knows how to coach developing speakers on the business side of the art) and Avish Parashar (a very successful corporate trainer who coaches developing speakers and helps with targeting your topic). These guys and my fellow mentees have really been inspirational and I can just feel the jump start to my work in presenting more about FASD but also finally developing my worksheets, charts and books that people keep patiently asking me about. The final highlight I want to speak of is the topic of this and the next podcast: a recent visit here to Minneapolis by Morgan Fawcett and his grandparents, Sue and Roy Hempel. Here is an excerpt of the press release we created for his visit: Nineteen year old Morgan Fawcett is an accomplished Tlingit flute player with Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder (FASD). With three albums released, a public speaking career, and a non-profit called One Heart Creations, it seems hard to believe Morgan has any disability. However, he names September 9th, 1991, as his first day of sobriety—the day a judge ordered his mother into alcohol treatment. “That is right,” he says, “My mother drank during her pregnancy, and this is why I raise awareness for FASD.” “When I play the flute, it lowers my blood pressure and eases stress away,” says Fawcett. “With FASD, you could have ADHD; but instead of being on Ritalin, I play the flute.” “Kids with FASD naturally seek their own ‘medicines’—usually rhythmic or sensory activities that help settle their damaged nervous systems so they can better cope with the ‘ordinary’ stressors of life,” according to Michael Harris, Indian Health Board psychologist who specializes in the disability. However, adults often mistake these medicines for willful misbehavior if odd or inappropriate—e.g., revolving in a swivel chair, pacing, leaving a room, or having a tantrum. The trick, observes Harris, is for adults to first recognize that the child needs time to settle and regroup, and then to help the child find medicine that works both for the situation and for the child. For Fawcett, the flute is his medicine and his grandparents, Sue and Roy Hempel, perceived that and support it, so he can handle challenges that may be just minor hassles for those without FASD. For teaching youth and professionals alike to use music and art as a medicine and enjoyable alterative to drugs, alcohol and video games, the National Organization on Fetal Alcohol Syndrome will induct Fawcett into the “Tom and Linda Daschle FASD Hall of Fame” in June 2011. Morgan gave talks to each class at a local American Indian magnet school, gave a lecture and concert at my workplace for the public, and honored students in the Warriors Circle groups with an original song, “Legacy,” at the elders’ and family luncheon for students. I listened to him present about a dozen times to classrooms ranging from High-Five pre-kindergarten to eighth graders in the middle school. It was simply inspirational, to the say the least, to hear him and his grandmother tailor his message to such a wide developmental range. It was just amazing to watch the younger kids settle and focus when he started his presentations with a flute song and then how the older kids asked him tough and thoughtful questions about his disability, his life, and his medicine. People stayed to listen and talk to him for an extra hour after the public lecture and concert at my workplace. It was also terrific to meet his grandmother, Sue Hempel, who contributed so well during the presentations and supported Morgan as his “external brain,” keeping him on track and providing support and additional stories and information tailored to the different ages. His grandfather Roy was also a great support in the background and part of Morgan’s team of support. Along the way, I was able to interview Morgan and record it for the podcast. The interview covers topics that have not been normally addressed in the articles about Morgan you may find on the internet, as I wanted to focus on his experiences of transitions, moments of insight and connections, and what medicines he found helpful along the way in order to give listeners insight into what might help others with FASD be and feel successful. This includes having a family and their support, asking the right questions, and becoming strong in his Tlingit culture. Half the interview is on this podcast, and the remaining will be released in another week or so. The show notes on the website has information about Morgan, how to purchase his CDs, and the name of his websites and contact data. Let me just say though, if you need a speaker for your FASD event, call them up. You will be inspired and glad you did. Feedback or comments may be sent to: Michael__at__FASDElephant__dot__com.
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