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Real estate visionary Neal Bawa, CEO of Grocapitus and MultifamilyU, returns to the podcast. Neal always presents a compelling data-driven forecast that should capture every investor's attention. Despite current market uncertainties, Bawa reveals a significant 5-million-unit housing shortage alongside plummeting inflation rates, positioning the US as the strongest performer among developed economies. Most notably, he predicts a dramatic surge in both single and multi-family rent growth during 2026-27, driven by high interest rates creating supply gaps. With homeownership projected to decrease to 60% within a decade, the rental market is poised for unprecedented strength. This perfect storm of undersupply, shifting demographics, and economic conditions suggests a golden opportunity for strategic real estate investors, particularly in the multi-family sector, with promising rent growth anticipated as early as late 2025. Highlights/Topics: Hard data trumps market fear: why the numbers tell a different story US economy dominates globally as inflation drops from 6% to 2.4% Rising national wealth meets housing crisis: housing investment opportunity New construction wave promises better prices for entry-level housing market Five million unit shortage creates perfect storm for 2026-27 housing gap Massive rent increases predicted across all housing sectors in 2026-27 Historic shift: Homeownership dropping to 60%, rental demand soars nationwide Real estate investments outperform during global inflationary cycles and market shifts 2025 forecast: Interest rates and delinquencies reshape investment landscape ahead Strategic opportunity: Significant rent growth predicted for late 2025 market Visit multifamilyu.com to dive deeper into these insights! Resources: MultiFamily Website https://multifamilyu.com/ Schedule Your FREE Consultation https://andersonadvisors.com/strategy-session/?utm_source=predicting-2025-real-estate-trends&utm_medium=podcast Tax and Asset Protection Events https://andersonadvisors.com/real-estate-asset-protection-workshop-training/?utm_source=predicting-2025-real-estate-trends&utm_medium=podcast Anderson Advisors https://andersonadvisors.com/

This Flashback Friday is from episode 1185, published last May 2, 2019. Jason brings this episode to you from China, where he has seen the impact of the rising middle class. While it may seem to be a world away, the growth in construction in China is impacting the cost of construction here in the United States as well. Then Jason talks with Anna Myers, Vice President of Grocapitus, about how to analyze deals, specifically for multifamily. Anna's group is all about finding the right deals in the right market, and she talks with Jason about which markets are looking good and which are past their peak, along with why the demographics for real estate investors is still incredibly bullish. Key Takeaways: Jason's editorial 3:52 The Chinese surveillance state is rampant and the country seems very wary of terrorism 7:28 The rising middle class in China has led to a large amount of higher end stores 11:08 All buildings are made from the same materials, so when there's a building boom in China it impacts builders everywhere Anna Myers Interview 13:45 What is Anna's definition of "data driven real estate investing"? 19:00 How can you know when the supply of starts is going to meet the demand for jobs? 22:28 Things you need to be looking for at the neighborhood level of your market 28:13 Anna's team is looking at approximately 80 markets a quarter 32:05 What kind of properties does Anna have in her portfolio? 34:24 The stigma of renting is gone as Millennials and Baby Boomers are now renting Website: www.JasonHartman.com/Properties www.Grocapitus.com www.MultiFamilyU.com     Follow Jason on TWITTER, INSTAGRAM & LINKEDIN Twitter.com/JasonHartmanROI Instagram.com/jasonhartman1/ Linkedin.com/in/jasonhartmaninvestor/ Call our Investment Counselors at: 1-800-HARTMAN (US) or visit: https://www.jasonhartman.com/ Free Class:  Easily get up to $250,000 in funding for real estate, business or anything else: http://JasonHartman.com/Fund CYA Protect Your Assets, Save Taxes & Estate Planning: http://JasonHartman.com/Protect Get wholesale real estate deals for investment or build a great business – Free Course: https://www.jasonhartman.com/deals Special Offer from Ron LeGrand: https://JasonHartman.com/Ron Free Mini-Book on Pandemic Investing: https://www.PandemicInvesting.com

In this episode, Toby Mathis of Anderson Business Advisors welcomes Neal Bawa back to the show for another eye-opening appearance. Neal is the founder and CEO of Grocapitus, a commercial real estate investment company, and CEO of MultifamilyU, an apartment investing education company. Neal reports some jaw-dropping stats: 18 million families are priced out of homeownership due to salary versus mortgage disparities. Landlords are poised with a peak supply of 673,000 apartments in 2024, but the market will experience a shortage and price hikes in 2025-2026. The Federal Reserve's interest rate policies aim to balance inflation and affordability concerns, potentially influencing market dynamics. Investors are advised to target multifamily properties and land purchases, focusing on 5-unit properties over smaller units and considering assumable loans for strategic advantages in the current market landscape. Highlights/Topics: Market progress since Covid Increases - Salaries vs. Mortgages 18 million families have been priced out of home ownership Opportunities for landlords - supply is peaking - 673,000 apartments in 2024 2025-2026 will see extreme apartment shortages and price hikes Interest rates and the Fed Inflation vs. rate cuts, affordability may improve Possible zig-zagging market price fluctuations What should investors do “right now”? Current advantages in the multi-family market, land purchases Why you should be looking at 5-unit properties, not 1-4 units Look for assumable loans Time is your friend in today's market Resources: Gro Capitus Website https://www.grocapitus.com/ MultiFamily Website https://multifamilyu.com/ Watch Neal Bawa “Feds Broke the Bank- Is Real Estate Safe?” March 2023 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-zObxj7NPk Anderson Advisors https://andersonadvisors.com/ Anderson Advisors on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaL-wApuVYi2Va5dWzyTYVw Anderson Advisors Podcast https://andersonadvisors.com/podcast/ Clint Coons YouTube   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5GX-U6VbvMkhSM1ONBiW8w  

Join us as we unravel the extraordinary journey of Neil BalaNeal Bawa, dubbed the "mad scientist of multifamily." Ever wondered how someone transitions from a network engineer to a successful entrepreneur who sells their company for a record-breaking multiple? Neal shares his story of resilience and strategic pivots, from weathering the 9-11 downturn to creating a booming healthcare education division. Learn how leveraging virtual assistants and data science can push your business to new heights, all while maintaining high profit margins.Curious about how real estate investments can help alleviate those hefty tax burdens? Neal walks us through his initial steps into real estate, using cost segregation and depreciation to optimize earnings. By meticulously analyzing data, he didn't just find the best cities for investment; he created a popular Udemy course that now boasts over 12,500 students. Discover how innovative problem-solving, hiring virtual assistants, and unique marketing approaches can make even recession-era investment decisions lucrative.Managing virtual assistants effectively is an art, and Neal breaks down his stringent monitoring practices to ensure productivity. From software tools to strategic hiring practices, you'll learn the do's and don'ts of building a reliable virtual team. Whether it's preventing double-dipping or favoring certain hires for communication roles, Neal's insights are invaluable. Don't forget to check out the comprehensive, free course "10X Your Business Through VAs" on MultifamilyU.com for a detailed guide on recruiting, training, and managing virtual assistants to supercharge your business productivity.If you need help finding the perfect location or your ready to invest in commercial real estate, email us at podcast@leadersre.com. Sign up for a FREE vulnerability analysis and lease renewal services View our library on apple podcasts or REUniversity.org. Connect on Facebook. Commercial Real Estate Secrets is ranked in the top 50 podcasts on real estate

How much have commercial real estate prices declined? Are the properties we are buying today discounted? Neal Bawa, CEO of MultifamilyU, shares his knowledge.Read the entire interview here: http://tinyurl.com/832h7ak6How were you investing in 2020, 2021, 2022?For that property, I must be honest and say there is no horror story to tell. The property did what it was supposed to do, we bumped rents by $175 from the very beginning to the end. On the last day, we had rents $176 dollars higher. So, the property did what it was supposed to, it also stayed highly occupied. You might say, it doesn't sound like a typical property, where are the horror stories? The answer is this, by stepping outside of the metro, we were able to buy the best property in this small market. We didn't have to be stingy; we didn't have to buy a really bad property in a bad area, we just bought a very nice property in a very nice area, it just wasn't in Atlanta. As a result, our process of actually running the property for years was fairly straightforward.What about today? Things have changed dramatically since COVID. In December 2019, probably three months before COVID, cap rates were low, but they weren't crazy low so we probably bought the property at around 4.7 cap or 4.6 cap but if you fast forward to six months, nine months after COVID, cap rates were completely insane. Many people don't know the answer to this question which is, when do you think cap rates in the United States for multifamily were the lowest, which means the highest prices? The answer is March 2022.How much have prices declined?Another question that I think everyone should be asking that I don't see enough is, how much have prices declined? When you ask that question, you have to go back to the first question, which is when was the peak because whenever you measure a decline, you have to always measure it from the peak. First, you have to know where the peak is so that you can say how much of a decline there is. In March or April 2022, the peak is well known because CBRE has published that and a bunch of other people have published articles around that peak. We looked at our underwriting from those days, and we were losing a lot of offers, we were still making offers because you have full-time employees, and their job is to make offers even if they're losing them. We looked at the going-in cap rate in that month for the offers that we made. None of them were offers we won and one can say that we were conservative because we didn't win any offers and we didn't even get into best and final so it's nice to look at that benchmark. And then we looked at the offers that we made in November of 2023 so now the gap between the two is about 20 months and the difference is the offers we are making today are 37% lower than the offers we were making in March. Does that mean that the market is discounted by 37%? No.What is the right price?In the absence of crazy interest rates, what is the right price for our properties? The right price is about 15% higher than it is today and at some point, we will return to that price, we are never going to go back to 37% higher, probably not for the next five to 10 years. The only thing banks know how to do when bad things happen is to cut interest rates to zero, so it will happen at some point, but until that next Black Swan event occurs, prices are about 15% above where they are today. What causes them to go to that level is simply interest rates dropping by about 150 basis points from where they are.

How to find the next market? How to convince investors to invest in something that is new to them? Neal Bawa, Proptech & Fintech real estate investor and CEO of MultifamilyU, shares his knowledge.Read the entire interview here:You sold a deal today and you return a huge amount to the investors. It would be cool to go over the entire process from why were you analyzing that deal and what made you want to buy it. If you want to talk about the negotiation process, value adds, and when to sell.The name of the deal is Equinox at Night, which is a name that we gave it, it was called Weatherly Walk when we bought it. The property was sold today, which ended December 2023, and was purchased right about this time four years ago. We wanted to buy it in time and close in time for the depreciation benefits in 2019. The journey was one day short of four years.I wasn't looking for a property in this particular marketplace but back in 2019, I had started feeling that properties were getting too expensive inside city limits and I felt like it was a terrific market to be putting a lot of money into. As I was talking about Atlanta, I started seeing good things and then as the years went on 2017-2018, I found that I was seeing more negative things about Atlanta than positive things because inside of the city, I was starting to see pricing that was just unreasonable for the income levels. What was happening was that the incomes of the people living in Atlanta, were going up 4% a year, and the property prices were going up 20% a year when property prices go up that much, the new owner needs to raise rents, so they're forcing rents higher because everyone's buying at these new prices. And for a while that works but then what happens is that either you start seeing occupancy fall, or even worse, you start seeing delinquency increase, as you start forcing people into 40% of their income, 45% of their income going to rent and almost 50% go into rent, then you're going to see a lot of delinquency, the first time their car breaks down, they can't pay rent.How do you convince the investors that may have been used to keep investing in MSA itself?In many of our projects, you just send out an email, and all the shares are taken. We knew that we were buying a better property and were going to make a lot of money on it but first, we had to convince investors (you're not going to make any money if you can't close the property). We did a two-step approach: first, before we put the property in the contract, we were making offers and we had identified three cities not two, that were around. We started holding webinars about the true opportunity in Atlanta, and then another webinar about the true opportunity in Phoenix. "First, I'll tell you about the true opportunity webinars and then I'll tell you about how that transition into getting the property funded", this is something that every syndicator should do instead of telling everybody, "Fayetteville is the greatest city in the Atlanta metro" which never works, what we do is we started to rank some of these outside cities. The cities we picked were Mapleton Smyrna, which is on the northwest side and then we picked Batesville on the south side. We started comparing these cities and started talking about these different cities and why we felt that they were better than Atlanta itself, both for single-family and multifamily. We even did single-family comparisons. We always tell our database, that if you want to buy single-family homes, go do it. You'll be back talking to us in one or two years once you realize you've turned into a landlord, you just wanted to be an investor. We always tell people, that the single-family experience is worth it, you...

This episode will teach us a lot today as Brandon Magierowski joins the show with his expertise in the multifamily space.This conversation covers his journey from being Neal Bawa's Multifamily University student turned expert in the active and passive side of investing, capital raising, and analyzing the right deal and market. Plus, he emphasizes the value of spending time to be productive and learn more about real estate.If you're a seasoned investor or planning to participate in a multifamily deal for the first time, this episode is worth listening to!Key Points & Relevant TopicsHow Brandon started as an active investor in real estateBrandon's 3 criteria for analyzing the right marketThe power of investing in yourself to go bigger in real estate2 important factors to consider when starting as an active investorWhat does it mean to be a capital raiser in real estate? Things passive investors must understand and be aware of before investing in a dealInsights on the multifamily space in the next two yearsThe importance of transparency and communication between operators and investorsTime management tips from BrandonResources & LinksTo get Brandon's time-blocking sheet for free, send him an email at brandon@realfocus.org. Real Estate Uncaged on Spotify and Listen NotesGorilla State Investing PodcastHow to Analyze a Real Estate Market in 60 Minutes - Know More Than a Local Expert - Neal BawaApartment Syndication Due Diligence Checklist for Passive InvestorAbout Brandon MagierowskiBrandon is the Acquisitions Manager at Real Focus Capital Investments. A native of Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada, Brandon came to Shreveport, Louisiana in 2004 to join the LSU-Shreveport Pilots Baseball Program. After three years with the Pilots, Brandon graduated with a Bachelor's Degree in General Business Administration. In 2008, Brandon joined the Prairie Baseball Academy (Junior College) as an Assistant Coach before returning to the LSUS-Baseball Program in 2010 as the Graduate Assistant Coach. Magierowski's coaching position with the Pilots ended in 2011 after Brandon graduated with his Masters in Business Administration (MBA). Upon graduation in the Spring of 2013, Brandon turned his attention to hosting baseball tournaments in the deep south region to provide players a better opportunity for exposure to next level recruiters. In 2014, Brandon aided in the creation Diamond Dynasty (2D Sports) and is the acting CEO. Brandon currently owns 150+ units across Louisiana, Texas, and Florida and is a graduate of Multifamily University and a member of MultifamilyU investor group. Get in Touch with BrandonWebsite: https://middleclasstomillionaire.org/ / https://realfocus.org/ Facebook community: Middle Class to MillionaireEmail: brandon@realfocus.orgTo Connect With UsPlease visit our website www.bonavestcapital.com and click here to leave a rating and written review!

MapableUSA.com: Multifamily investing can only go up because housing is always a concern, right? Well, the truth of the matter is that the multifamily and commercial real estate markets are experiencing an unprecedented level of stormy turbulence. In this podcast, Neal Bawa, the CEO and founder of MultifamilyU and Grocapitus explains the many factors wreaking havoc on this investment landscape – and how you can find the silver lining present in every storm many call “opportunity”.

Failed deals. Capital calls. Lost investor money. A dreadful and sobering conversation ensues for many some commercial real estate sectors. Residential (1-4 unit) and commercial (5+ unit) real estate fortunes are decoupling.  Multifamily commercial loans are at the mercy of interest rate resets. Residential is stable due to low supply and sustained demand. Neal Bawa from MultifamilyU and I outline the multifamily problem. Values have plummeted 25%.  The magnitude of the multifamily problem is about 1/80th of the 2008 Global Financial Crisis. There are two reasons for the office apocalypse—both declining income and increasing expenses. Only 3% of office buildings in downtown cores have a floor plan that can be converted to residential. Dreadful.  There will be possible discounts in the hotel industry due to a lack of funding and loans. Retail has surprising bright spots. We discuss the future of rents through 2026. Will multifamily problems create contagion into 1-4 unit residential? We discuss.  Timestamps: Multifamily industry changes and challenges [00:00:46] Discussion on the new difficulties faced in multifamily, such as failed deals, capital calls, and banking industry challenges. Opportunity arising in the multifamily market [00:01:12] Exploration of the current opportunity in the multifamily market due to a 25% reduction in prices from the peak, caused by distressed transactions and high interest costs. Anatomy of the problem with floating rate debt [00:05:57] Explanation of the issues faced by apartment building owners or syndicators when they have floating rate debt without rate caps, leading to potential deal blow-ups. The rate cap issue [00:08:29] Discussion on operators neglecting to buy a rate cap or buying a rate cap set too high, leading to negative cash flow. Magnitude of the multifamily reset problem [00:09:47] Comparison of the current multifamily reset problem to the global financial crisis, highlighting the challenges faced by operators. Challenges in refinancing properties [00:12:10] Explanation of the challenges faced by properties in refinancing due to decreased net operating income and increased mortgage costs, leading to potential loss of investor money. The availability of multifamily loans [00:16:50] Neil discusses the availability of commercial real estate loans, particularly in the multifamily space, and how it differs from other asset classes. Lending challenges in the commercial real estate space [00:18:03] Neil talks about the severe lending challenges faced by asset classes like office, retail, and self-storage, while expressing confidence in the stability of multifamily lending. Contagion and the impact on the 1 to 4 unit space [00:20:56] Neil discusses the limited level of contagion that could affect the 1 to 4 unit space due to problems in the multifamily market, highlighting the healthiness of the single-family market and institutional interest in it. The Troubled Office Sector [00:25:35] The speaker discusses how the office sector is facing a long-term demand crisis due to the decrease in office occupancy and the challenges of converting office buildings into residential units. The Ten-Year Problem in the Office Sector [00:27:06] The speaker explains that the office sector is about to face a ten-year problem, with defaults and declining values affecting the downtown core and other assets. Bright Spots in Retail and Hotels [00:29:21] The speaker highlights that retail occupancy is higher than multifamily occupancy, and despite the Amazon effect, retail is doing well. They also mention that hotels have seen strong recovery post-pandemic. Hotels and Multifamily Discounts [00:32:55] Discussion on the current cash flow opportunities in hotels and multifamily properties, potential discounts in the next 12 months. Retail Reinvention and Rents in a Recession [00:33:57] Exploration of how retail can sustain itself through experiential offerings, the resilience of rents in past recessions. Artificial Recession and Rent Growth [00:35:33] Analysis of the possibility of a recession and its impact on rents, the strength of the US economy, and the expected short duration of the recession. The recession and its frequency [00:40:56] Discussion on the frequency of recessions and how they are a normal part of the business cycle. Learning opportunities at MultifamilyU.com [00:41:31] Information on the webinars offered by multifamily ewcom, covering various topics including single-family and multifamily projects. Appreciation for Neil Bawa's insights [00:42:22] The host expresses gratitude for Neil Bawa's informative contributions and welcomes him back on the show. Resources mentioned: Show Notes: GetRichEducation.com/473 Neal Bawa: MultiFamilyU.com and Grocapitus.com For access to properties or free help with a GRE's Investment Coach, start here: GREmarketplace.com Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE  or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Invest with Freedom Family Investments. You get paid first: Text ‘FAMILY' to 66866 Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search “how to leave an Apple Podcasts review”  Top Properties & Providers: GREmarketplace.com GRE Free Investment Coaching: GREmarketplace.com/Coach Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— text ‘GRE' to 66866 Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Keith's personal Instagram: @keithweinhold   Complete episode transcript:   Speaker 1: Today's guest is well known as the mad Scientist of multifamily. He's a data guru, self-described self-described process freak, and an outsourcing expert. He's a ten figure man with his billion dollar plus multifamily portfolio and his 900 plus investors. He's also the CEO at a multifamily education company because he's a really good teacher. It's been about a year and a half since you were first here. Welcome back to Neal Bawa.   Speaker 1 (00:00:40) - Well, thanks for having me back on. It's it's a delight to be back. Had a fantastic conversation with you last time. So I'm looking forward to this one. We did.   Speaker 2 (00:00:46) - The last one was so fun and spirited. But my gosh, since then, Neal, about a year and a half ago, so much has changed in the multifamily industry. We know that a lot of new difficulties have come into multifamily, like failed deals and capital calls and the need to raise bridge debt and banking industry challenges.   Speaker 2 (00:01:06) - So where would you like to start to help give us some perspective on all that?   Speaker 1 (00:01:12) - Well, think opportunity is finally here. You know, when when we talked a year and a half ago, I was I said things like, well, prices are too high. I said things like, I don't know where the margins are. I don't know how people make deals work. I don't know how they make them pencil out. Right. Um, in some ways, I'm still saying some of those things, but it's certainly not because of pricing anymore. So, you know, the single family market is a perfect sort of benchmark for the world that live in multifamily. As far as I know, in the last 12 months, single family prices have either been flat or up 1% or down 1%, depending upon which analyst you pick. But it's certainly been an extremely, extraordinarily stable market in terms of prices, where it's it's you know, the volume, of course, has cratered. It's down a ridiculous percentage.   Speaker 1 (00:02:00) - Whereas multifamily was an industry that has hurt more because of the portion of multifamily that was purchased or traded in the 2020, 2021 and 2022 time frame. Almost all of those trades happened using bridge loans which were floating, whereas almost all single family transactions were 30 year fixed loans. Right. So so two completely different things have happened. Normally the single family and multifamily market tend to be in lockstep. And that's certainly been the case for ten years. But over the last 18 months, single family and multifamily have separated from each other. And the big reason for that is almost all of the distressed transactions that you're talking about, that you're alluding to all of those cash calls. They are related to bridge loans, which had floating debt. And that floating debt has gone from, you know, 6% to ten, eight, you know, 11%, even for for some of these, these operators making it extremely difficult to make numbers work, making it very difficult to pencil. But on the good side, we've now seen compared to the peak, which was probably about 20, 21 months ago, we've seen a 25% reduction in prices, which is huge because we mean multifamily usually as an asset class, doesn't go down 25% simply because it its value is based on rents, you know, and rents rarely go down.   Speaker 1 (00:03:22) - They hardly went down for 6 or 7 months in 2008, so we didn't see much of a decline there in 2008, simply because, you know, the, the, the income was strong, but this time, the much, much higher cost of interest means that our overall post mortgage income is down. And that's why prices are down 25%. So both opportunity and distress in the multifamily space.   Speaker 2 (00:03:46) - That's such a staggering number. So let's frame that. Multifamily prices down 25% since their peak or year over year. And then just to be clear, we're talking about five plus unit residential apartment buildings with that figure.   Speaker 1 (00:04:01) - Yes, I'm glad you asked the question that way because I do need to qualify a few things. So so first thing is down from peak and depending upon different markets, the peak was either the last quarter of 2021 or the first quarter of 2022. And in a couple of markets, even the second quarter of 2022. So it's I'm not saying year over year, it's basically they're down 25% in the last 18 or 20 months.   Speaker 1 (00:04:25) - Um, so the second piece is that the down 25% is predominantly, let's call it hotter markets in the United States. So if we're talking about a steady Midwest market like Kansas City or Indianapolis, then you're probably seeing a decline of half that amount. So maybe 12.5, 13, 14%, where if you're talking about a very fast growing market, you know, all the Texan markets, the Floridian markets, then you might be seeing declines of that 25% level, since a lot of the transactions that did happen in the last two years were in the faster growing markets, that 25% number is still reasonable. And some people listening to this show might say, no, I don't think 25% is right. It's more like 20, it's more like 18. So I'll. Be at that by saying it's a pretty wide range. We're seeing as little as 18% in some of these fast growing markets, you know, hot markets. And we're also seeing markets like Phoenix, where we're seeing 27, 28% declines in price.   Speaker 1 (00:05:23) - Also, the the range is dependent on the number of units. We are seeing smaller declines if you've got less than 100 units. Right. So smaller properties, we're seeing a smaller decline maybe 15%. And then when we are seeing properties that are 300 units or more, just the whoppers, we're seeing 30% declines in those assets. So so a lot of it is really dependent upon, you know, because the bigger the size, the harder it is to finance it these days, the less the banks want to take a risk on it. So the bigger the property, the harder, harder it's hit at this point of time.   Speaker 2 (00:05:57) - The bigger the property, the less liquidity. So maybe, Neil, to help the listener get a full understanding, maybe you can take us through the anatomy of where a common problem is with what happens to an apartment building owner or syndicator when they got this floating rate debt and they didn't get a rate cap and rates spiked? What exactly happens that makes these deals blow up?   Speaker 1 (00:06:24) - Right? First, want to, you know, set the size of the of the problem.   Speaker 1 (00:06:28) - Right. So when you compare it to 2008, it's not comparable in 2008, the total size of distress or you know, potential distress was 8000 billion or $8 trillion. So it was it was a it was an absolutely staggering event. Luckily, not a lot of that distress actually happened. So that was good. But the the total size of distress was in that $8 trillion or $8000 billion range, the total size of distress in the multifamily market appears to be in the $100 billion range, so about 1/80 of the size of the distress in 2008. So keep that in mind. Also, as a percentage of the overall multifamily industry, there's about 100,000 multifamily properties in the United States that are on the bigger size. Let's call them more than 50 units. There's 20 million apartment units total. 100,000 are the bigger properties. Of those 100,000, the distressed portion of the portfolios is about, from what I can tell, about 3000 properties. Maybe it could be as much as 4000, but 3000 is a very common number.   Speaker 1 (00:07:30) - So about 3% of the properties are distressed. And why are they distressed? Multifamily has been doing incredibly well. Rent growth has been phenomenal, especially in 2021 where it was 15%. Just so you know, they the 50 year average is about 2% rent growth. So 15% is you know, champagne time. So so we've certainly had positive trends. And we continue to see positive trends. You know there's there's less and less people can afford a mortgage. So there's basically a you know brand new renters being created every day because of mortgage rates being this high. But the, the the downside was that a portion of those 100,000 properties were purchased in late 2020, 2021 and then, you know, 2022, and they were purchased using floating debt. And the the so we're talking about those 3000 properties. Those 3000 properties either didn't have a rate cap. So when when you you're purchasing using, you know, bridge debt or floating debt, you want to buy a rate cap. So if rates do go up they hit that cap.   Speaker 1 (00:08:29) - And then anything above that cap is something that the rate, you know, cap selling company reimburses to you. So that way you're not affected by but by going above that, well, some of these operators neglected to buy a rate cap, which was a really bad thing to do. But then there were others that other operators that bought a rate cap, but their rate cap was set too high. So, you know, they basically didn't think that rates would go up. So they did put a rate cap in. But instead of buying a rate cap at 6% or 7%, they may be bought a rate cap at 8 or 9. They were basically looking for the worst case scenario, and so they bought the cheapest rate cap that they could find. And now, you know, rates have gone up and they've already hit that rate cap. Maybe it's eight and a half or 9% and it had eight and a half or 9%. That mortgage is still too high for that property to cash flow. So now the property has negative cash flow.   Speaker 1 (00:09:18) - So there's I personally know of a few dozen properties where the negative cash flow is between 20,000 and $200,000 a month. And that negative cash flow means that the syndicators, the the general partners are basically putting that money in themselves, or they're taking short term loans and they are now looking for a solution there and their solutions are limited. I can give you a list of those, but their solutions are limited because the property is is negative cash flow and nobody wants to touch a property that's negative cash flow.   Speaker 2 (00:09:47) - Did we say that he's a data driven guy or what? That was some great perspective that the magnitude here of the multifamily reset problem has been about 1/80 of what the problem was in real estate during the global financial crisis. That was a great way to put things in perspective. Yeah, Neal, you know, it's such an interesting mindset that an operator would have the awareness to buy a rate cap with their floating rate debt, but yet not have the cap be low enough in order to keep them out of trouble.   Speaker 2 (00:10:20) - That's really unusual to me. Do you have any idea what percent of operators have bought a rate cap with their floating rate debt?   Speaker 1 (00:10:30) - I think a majority of them have. So I'd say more than 50% of the properties that were purchased during this time did have caps, but a lot of the caps were set high. So that that was a very common thing, where the caps were set to 8% or higher, as opposed to them being set at, you know, 6 or 6.5%. So it's more of a high cap issue rather than a no cap issue. And I think the bigger the secondary challenges, let's say let's say they had a good rate cap, right? So I bought it. Let's say you bought a property in the, um, let's call it the final quarter of 2020. And you bought a two year rate cap. And the rate cap was good. It was 6.5%. Yeah. Good for you. Right. But that rate cap was a two year rate cap. So now it expired basically last year.   Speaker 1 (00:11:14) - And so since last year you're now up at 10 or 11%. And, you know, a year's gone by. Your property is bleeding. Maybe it was doing well, but now that it's been bleeding for a year and you've been paying all of that bleed out of your operating expenses, now you're in trouble. And maybe you bought it. Three rate cap. Well, if you bought the property in the final quarter of 2020, then in about a month or two months from now, we're in the final quarter of 2023. Well, that rate cap is going to be gone. And then maybe in the next three, 4 or 5, six, seven months, all of your operating budget, all of your operating, you know, fund is going to be, you know, gone because you have this much higher mortgage. So what's happening is that this is one of those situations where there isn't a trigger on any one particular day, and a huge number of properties come to market. There were a lot of properties purchased in the final quarter of 2020, all four quarters of 2021 and the first three quarters of 2022.   Speaker 1 (00:12:10) - Right. So you're looking at a total of eight quarters. So each quarter, a certain percentage of those properties get to the point where either their rate cap is gone. Right. So it's finished because you bought a one year or two year rate cap, or they're they're at the point where even without the rate cap, their loan is expiring. So a lot of these bridge loans were two year loans and three year loans. And so the vast majority of the challenges that the multifamily industry is going to face are going to be in 2024, because that's when a vast majority of either rate caps or mortgages expire. And because because the net operating income of these properties has gone down and the and the mortgage cost has gone up, most of these properties cannot be refinanced. So I'd say out of the 3000 properties, you could probably refinance using some mechanism, a thousand of them, maybe a third of them. And that could be, you know, do a cash call, get, you know, money from your investors.   Speaker 1 (00:13:07) - Or you could do what is known as a pref lending, where you basically take money from an outside party and that outside that extra money helps you refinance into into perm debt. So those are your options. And the third option, which is likely to be most common, is that you go out and sell your property. But from what I'm seeing, the vast majority of these properties that don't get refinanced. So out of 3000, the 2000 that don't get refinanced are likely to come to market, and the vast majority of them will end up losing all of their investor money or a majority of their investor money. And so you, you know, if it's a $100 billion problem, that's, you know, we're talking about 30 to $40 billion of investor money, and a majority of that 30 to $40 billion could be lost.   Speaker 2 (00:13:48) - Yeah, that is troubling and really concerning as far as those LPs, those limited partners, those investors in someone else's syndication, hopefully that syndicator, that operator is communicating with their investors.   Speaker 2 (00:14:03) - But for investors, is there anything they can do to identify cracks in the arm or where they might be losing their deal, where they might be losing their money, where they might be throwing good money after bad if a capital call is requested?   Speaker 1 (00:14:18) - I think it's a very difficult thing to do for a limited partner because you have, you know, you have more, you have much more exposure to the deal than you would when you invest in the stock market, where you know, there's almost no exposure unless it's a public company. Um, but and these are all private syndications. But I think that a lot of investors simply don't know how to read the, the budgets versus actuals. They don't necessarily know how to read the Performa. So it's it's challenging. So if you're somebody that is. Comfortable doing that. I suggest you dive in and basically ask a lot of the questions of the syndicators. I have one such property, so, you know, I was lucky in that during that time a lot of my colleagues had I have people who I know colleagues that bought 10 to 12 properties during that time frame.   Speaker 1 (00:15:02) - It was very normal. I bought one and a half. So one of those properties was my own property, exited one of my partners. So I call it a half a property because it was already mine. Um, and then I bought purchased one other property in a military metro. So I was able to get it for a lower price because it was a military metro. And usually the prices are lower for, for for military towns and, and that property, you know, I'm having the same challenges that I've described. So, you know, the the rate cap issues and the fact that basically prices have gone down by 25%. And I'm dealing with it by constantly communicating with my investors, giving them, you know, options. You know, here's, you know, how when, when we were when we were all selling these these shares to investors, we gave them a, um, a sensitivity analysis showing them, you know, worst case scenario, best case scenario, you know, in a middle case scenario.   Speaker 1 (00:15:55) - And so now we're basically doing a sensitivity analysis based on what we are seeing in the marketplace today. And and giving them feedback on what our options are and think a lot of it comes down from the the general partners communicating with the limited partners. And if the your general partner is not very communicative, is not giving you information, ask for one on one meetings, ask for you know, more information in their webinar or in their updates. I think this is a time for limited partners to be vocal.   Speaker 2 (00:16:25) - You've learned about the problem in the larger apartment space. You've learned about how operators and apartment syndicators are dealing with the problem. And then, Neil, where do you think that we're going next and think maybe we should ask and look at it through the lens of where do you think we're going next with the availability of multifamily loans, could this help the source of capital dry up?   Speaker 1 (00:16:50) - And so I think the answer is we are going to a very dark place with availability of commercial real, you know, loans.   Speaker 1 (00:16:57) - Multifamily is in a privileged asset class. So, you know, the the term commercial real estate is sometimes meant to include multifamily, sometimes not. So I'll assume that multifamily is part of commercial real estate, but there are many other asset classes. So there's office which is the next biggest asset class. There's retail hotels, there's self-storage, you know, and and a few others like mixed use. And of those commercial real estate asset class, there's only one that's privileged and that's multifamily because there are not one, not two, but three lenders who are government or quasi government organizations whose only job it is to keep lending in the multifamily space liquid, and also the single family space liquid. And they are Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and hard. Right. So Housing and Development Authority. So these three lenders right now are extremely, extremely active. And what has happened is that in in good times, call it 20 early 2022. You had life companies. You had all these private, you know, bridge capital, you had all kinds of capital that was lending to the multifamily space.   Speaker 1 (00:18:03) - Now some of that capital has backed off. There's still a huge percentage, I'd say probably 40, 50% of all loans that are being done today are these kinds of private, you know, groups. But think the government or quasi government groups are much more active today and their lending. So I don't think multifamily lending dries up at all. I don't think that that's the case. I think it dries up for the non privileged asset classes, hotel, retail, self-storage, office. These are the classes that are likely to see, you know, near lending dry up especially because on a fundamentals basis there's absolutely nothing wrong with multifamily. In fact as I mentioned I think we're a lot better off than 2019 to 2023 given that home prices have gone up 40%, incomes are only gone up 15%. So there's a very large number of Americans that simply cannot qualify for a single family home anymore. And so those people have to go to apartments. So the the fundamentals are really good for apartments. That is not true of office.   Speaker 1 (00:19:02) - So office is an asset class that is experiencing the worst fundamentals it has seen in its entire history. And so I do think that there's going to be very severe lending challenges in the commercial real estate space. But I haven't really seen that multifamily, and I don't anticipate seeing it in the future as well.   Speaker 2 (00:19:20) - Well, I don't know if any of that could have as much fun as last time. There were rather gloomy subjects to discuss here with Neal and come back. Can this problem in the multifamily space create contagion for the 1 to 4 unit space? And like with what Neil touched on, what about other commercial sectors like office and retail? How troubled are they when we come back? This is get recession. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold.    Speaker 2 (00:20:14) - Welcome back to Get Rich Education. We're talking with the mad scientist of multifamily, a big brained visionary. He's also an excellent teacher. I'm sure you can tell as you're listening to him here. And if you're listening in the audio only Bawa is spelled b a w a new. Here on this show, we talk an awful lot about investing in the 1 to 4 unit space and the advantage of the 30 year fixed that long term fixed interest rate debt. Do you see any areas for contagion with problems in the multifamily five plus unit space bleeding over into the 1 to 4 unit space?   Speaker 1 (00:20:56) - Yes, but to a limited level, I think that the the 1 to 4 unit space is the healthiest that I've seen in a very long time.   Speaker 1 (00:21:05) - And there's reasons for that. One of the biggest reasons is multifamily, which is the most well sought after asset class for institutional investors who don't typically don't usually like the 1 to 4 unit space. There's a few companies in that space, let's call them half a dozen, but there's several thousand companies that invest in the multifamily space. Some of them are right now looking at single family as a, you know, as a, you know, safe haven to park some of their money. Right? So there's, you know, more institutional level interest in the single family space because of its access to those, you know, those those 30 year fixed loans. So there's and the fact that single family prices basically haven't declined. So I think that there's there's a lot of interest in the single family space. Um, keep in mind that millennials are reaching their peak years of household formation. So they started in 2019. So until 2025. So from 19 to 2025, those are the peak years of household formation for millennials.   Speaker 1 (00:22:01) - And that's also putting a cushion under the single family space there. Contagion is some form of contagion is inevitable. I think that the office market is going to see spectacular levels of contagion, similar to 2008. I think that the other associated markets, like hotel and retail, are going to see some level of contagion, though I certainly don't expect it to be as bad as office. And then multifamily is going to see some contagion, as we mentioned, because of these 2 or 3000 properties that have to be basically sold into the marketplace and prices are down, which always creates contagion. Why? Because think about it. You're a mid-level bank. So a mid-level bank in the US is $250 billion or less in assets. Well, a lot of these assets are these banks are the ones that loaned out money to multifamily and retail and hotel and in office, and now are being forced by the Federal Reserve through a process known as mark to market. They're being forced to write down the value of these assets because these assets, you know, there's still you know, there's still active loans, but maybe they they loan $20 million.   Speaker 1 (00:23:00) - And now basically they're $20 million is only worth 18 or 16 or 15. And so now the fed is saying, hey, you know, you got to mark these assets down in value. And as they mark them down to value, that can lead to the banks becoming or mid-sized banks becoming less stable. I don't think this affects any of the large banks in the US, but the midsize ones are affected. And some of those mid-sized banks do lend to the single family space, but not a lot. I find that the single family space, when I look at their source of lending, not a lot of those mid-sized banks are involved. There's a little bit they do some brokerage work, but then they're selling those loans back to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and a bunch of other, you know, governmental type organizations. So I don't see a sense of contagion in the single family space. I do see potentials of some price declines because until about two months ago, mortgages were predominantly in the sixes. They, you know, they spiked up once to the sevens and then they pulled back into the sixes.   Speaker 1 (00:23:56) - Now they've gone into the sevens and they may stay in the sevens for a substantial amount of time. When that happens, that can affect the single family market as well, simply because, you know, you can get to the point where supply is higher than, than demand. So I wouldn't be surprised if there's a pullback in single family prices. Let's call it 5%. But I'm not predicting the kind of challenges where the office market think we could see 40% declines in prices from peak, whereas single family you might see 5%. I think that's still an incredible outcome for the single family market compared, you know, just looking at the outrageous increases in prices since Covid don't I don't think that's a even a pullback. I would just say that's a balancing out.   Speaker 2 (00:24:44) - Who know the residential housing market. Really, it's something that's non-discretionary on a human need basis. Everyone needs to live somewhere and they will either own rent or be homeless. And you talked about some of those affordability challenges before. The lower the homeownership rate gets, the more renters you have.   Speaker 2 (00:25:05) - So long term, we will have some demand baseline for both multifamily and properties in the 1 to 4 unit space, of course, but the same thing cannot be said about some of these other commercial sectors, especially the troubled office sector space, where you have more and more abandoned buildings downtown. And a lot of these office buildings cannot be easily converted from offices to residential units. So why don't you talk to us about some of those other troubled commercial sectors, starting with office.   Speaker 1 (00:25:35) - Office is in a apocalypse. I think that this is far, far worse than 2008 and far, far worse than than 2001, because 2008 and 2001, they were liquidity crisis. They were short term, you know, demand crisis. This is a long term demand crisis because, you know, I read very important documents from companies that are in the key swiping business. You know, when you enter an office in a downtown core, you're swiping your card. And so those companies actually have phenomenal day by day data of how many people are actually going into offices today.   Speaker 1 (00:26:11) - It's been more than a year since companies started calling back, you know, people to the office and think that by now every company, whether you know, they're they're forcing five days back to the office or four days or three days or two days, everyone's sort of, you know, put their line in the sand. And we're at the point where, you know, this, this is what offices look like going forward. And if I'm right and this is what it looks like going forward, it is simply catastrophic for the office market in the United States, because we're still seeing key swipes at 50 to 60% of the people that used to swipe in before Covid. And that number is staggeringly, staggeringly low. And if this is what it settles at, you know, some companies are two days, some three, some four. I think we're in for a world of pain for the office market. You also, you know, there's a lot of people that in these podcasts basically will often say something like, no, the office stuff will get converted into residential.   Speaker 1 (00:27:06) - And I have news for you, only 3% of office buildings in office in downtown course have the floor plate, the floor plate necessary for residential conversion. Why? Because residential conversion by law requires that every every single room have a window. So what is happening is most of the time you basically can only convert the buildings on the edge, the, the square footage on the edge of a building, but that's central core but then becomes worthless. And if you don't have a use for it, then you still have to buy that office building to convert and you have to buy it at a reasonable price. The math doesn't work. I mean, you'd you'd need to see office values down 80% for, for, you know, a somebody who's converting to multifamily to say, fine, I'll just leave the 60% in the middle empty and I'll just convert the size. So 80% declines in value are needed for that kind of conversion to happen. So we are about to see a ten year problem in the office sector.   Speaker 1 (00:28:03) - And it's also dragging down all of the other assets in the downtown core. So we are seeing we just saw a $727 million default on two hotels in San Francisco. We saw a $558 million mall default. Also in San Francisco, we're seeing defaults across the board in New York, Boston, Seattle, San Diego, Miami, sort of heavy markets where this these challenges are happening. We're seeing a lot of these and it's happening in a very, very slow way. Keith. And the reason for that is the office market, their average lease is, you know, five years long. Some leases are ten years long, and a lot of these companies haven't gone out of business. So if the company is in the lease, they're continuing to pay even though the office is empty. But the moment that lease comes up for renewal, either the company doesn't renew it or they renew maybe half the space. Right. And so we we already know that this is an incredible debacle, but it doesn't seem like it at any given point of time because it's happening in a very slow motion way.   Speaker 2 (00:29:02) - Well, that's such a good point about how there will be this slow drain, this slow leak when these office leases expire over time. What about other areas of the commercial space, any other particularly troubled areas or bright spots that you see going forward?   Speaker 1 (00:29:21) - Ironically bright spots. And this is where I've been proven wrong in the past. You know, I've often maybe 4 or 5 years ago talked about the retail apocalypse, right, where Amazon would basically, you know, lead the retail market to become illiquid. Well, none of those things have happened because of two reasons. One is the retail apocalypse with people like me, you know, being on on 200 podcasts, talking about it, a lot of development of retail that was scheduled to happen simply didn't happen. So the very.   Speaker 2 (00:29:48) - Late podcast, people lost confidence. No. They were invested in retail.   Speaker 1 (00:29:52) - Exactly right. So so, you know, I fulfilled that prophecy. Think. But bottom line is that there's there's been very responsible levels of new construction in retail.   Speaker 1 (00:30:02) - So, you know, they haven't built a lot. Very few models have been built in the United States in the last few years. And even some of the malls that have been repurposed, some of their square footage is being used up for, for multifamily. And so that was one. The second reason is that retail is being very careful with pricing. So, you know, over, over the last 5 or 6 years, the retail market has adjusted to new forms of pricing, where, you know, you go into a mall and you see a gym where before the pricing of that mall never really allowed for a gym to be in a mall. It just gyms, you know, they want, you know, a lower price per square foot. And so malls have adjusted, strip malls have adjusted. And so today we have a surprising event where retail occupancy in the United States is higher than multifamily. This is the first time ever that multifamily is about a little under 95%. Now it's 94% occupied.   Speaker 1 (00:30:52) - Retail is 96 or 97% occupied, which never happens, right? Normal. Normally retail is right around 90%, 88%, something like that. But the high level of occupancy shows that that retail is doing well. Now, having said that. So so on the occupancy side, they're doing really well. There's there's really no pullback in terms of demand. But on the other side, because of the fact that interest rates are so high, retail cap rates are very high, which means prices are low. So prices are very reasonable there for retail. And so I think that real opportunity that I'm seeing I wouldn't invest in office at this point, Keith, because you don't know the end of this process. You don't know how long it takes. I think it takes a decade. So I might get 50% off in office and I don't want it. I just don't want to touch that asset class. It's tainted. Now, if I get 40% off in retail, I think I'm interested because fundamentally I don't see a demand issue if this is the highest occupancy that retail has seen ever.   Speaker 1 (00:31:53) - And at the same time, I'm getting a 40 or 50% discount simply because of lack of lending. Well, that is to me a classic opportunity to look at because once again, fundamentally, nothing is wrong with demand. And I realize that the Amazon effect is extremely real. But what I'm seeing is that that people want that experience of shopping. And so even amongst the young people, sure, each year Amazon, you know, goes up a little bit. But now Amazon's growth is no longer a hockey puck. Amazon's growth is sort of like this. You know they're growing by 10%, 15% a year, which is still great for Amazon. But I think when you when you project that across a 300 million person market that the US is retail no longer has to fear for an apocalypse. So this is actually a pretty good time to take advantage of the 40% discounts that I think will happen in 2024 for retail. Same thing. Everything I just said also applies to hotels. Hotels came out of the pandemic very strong, with huge increases in ADR or average daily rates and huge, huge increases in occupancy.   Speaker 1 (00:32:55) - So hotels right now are a very robust cash flowing business. If you've got good hotels and good locations, you're making a lot of money. They're cash flowing like crazy because their orders have gone up and their occupancy has gone up. So they've taken two positive hits. But once again, I expect there to be discounts simply because of a lack of funding, a lack of loans. And you can you might we might easily see 30%, maybe not 40, but 30% discounts in hotels in the next 12 months. So think both of those are really good opportunities, along with multifamily discounts at 25%. So this is an opportunity. This is a case of distress creating unusual levels of opportunity. I don't think we're quite there yet, Keith. We're beginning to see some distress in multifamily. We're certainly seeing distress in office. We haven't heard anything about the distress in retail or hotels yet. That's because a lot of their their loans don't don't trigger until 2024. Right. So that's we'll see what happens next year when these loans start to trigger and you can't really refinance them.   Speaker 2 (00:33:57) - I completely believe that inflation has thoroughly soaked in to hotels. You talk about their ADR, their average daily rate. I've recently stayed at hotels in Denver, Omaha, Chicago, Toledo and Boston, so I've gotten a pretty good sample size and sure feel the hit there. And interestingly, the last time I shopped at a mall, it was the biggest mall in this city, and I noticed a bowling alley that I had not noticed there before. And I went bowling and noticed an ice skating rink was there. So I just wonder how much retail can reinvent itself if it tilts enough into the experiential part, rather than just buying items off a shelf at a store, maybe that can help sustain that retail sector, to your point. Well, Neil, maybe we should wrap up really on what supports an awful lot of values in multifamily, and that is rents and the direction of rents, especially if we have almost hate to say this. R-word, a different R-word, a recession, because it seems like this thing has been around the corner forever.   Speaker 2 (00:35:03) - I know historically that rents are quite resilient in a recession, something that you touched on earlier back even during the 2008 global financial crisis, when I was a landlord, I owned fourplex buildings. Then I noticed that I had a pretty good steady stream of renters. My rents didn't really go up much, but they were really resilient. They didn't go down, and that's because people couldn't get a loan. So that was an affordability problem. Then we have another affordability problem now. But if we do tilt into recession, what do you think that is going to do to rents?   Speaker 1 (00:35:33) - I think we are going to see a decline in rents if a recession happens. Now, that's a question. By the way, six months ago, if you told me, you know, a recession wasn't going to happen, I'd say, no, that's not possible. We are going to go into a recession. However, I must admit that the US economy has truly, truly, truly outperformed beyond anyone else, beyond anyone's imagination.   Speaker 1 (00:35:54) - So today, the chances of a recession are certainly not 100%. Might be 50%. But let's assume that it happens and a recession happens. I think what is very, very likely is that this recession will be very short. So once again, if you're not paying attention to to to what's happening in the marketplace, this is a time that, you know, I was born in India and this is my adopted country. I feel very proud of the US economy today. If I compare the US economy to the Canadian, the eurozone, the Germans, the Japanese, we are outperforming every one of those economies. We're at the point where we're outperforming China, which almost never happens, by the way. And so we have an extraordinarily resilient and strong economy at this point. So if it falls into a recession just because the fed keeps hitting it over the head with this interest rate hammer, I think that recession will be fairly short, because as soon as the economy does go into a recession, the fed usually figures that out within a few months.   Speaker 1 (00:36:47) - Then they can stop hitting us with a hammer. I'm not saying that they'll just cut interest rates back to zero, but they certainly will provide some cushion. Maybe they cut rates by one one time, two times, just to make the market breathe a little bit easier. Because this is an artificial recession, there is no shortage of demand in the US economy. There's an incredible number of open jobs. There were as many as 11 million jobs now. Now there's about 9 million open. So there's there's a and wage growth has been so strong. Right. Because we have so many people retiring that at this point, for the first time since the early 60s, I believe, or late 60s, we actually have pricing power. So anyone who wants to be employed can ask for more money and get it. And so wage growth has been about four, 4.5%, which is really good for rents, by the way. It's phenomenal news because we needed wage growth for future rent growth. So we have a artificial recession if it does happen.   Speaker 1 (00:37:38) - And that artificial recession is being caused by the fed because they want that wage growth to come closer to 2% from the 4% that it's at, because everything else has come down. Right. So commodities have come down with the exception of oil, and so has, you know, so have the supply chain issues are gone, rents are down. So in the US the last 12 months, rents were flat and in some markets they might be down 1% or 2%. Austin I think was the only market that was down a lot. But most other markets were down very, very small amounts. So rents have been flat, which is, I think, really credible because if you look at rents over the last two years, they're up 16%. So in 2022 they were up 16%. In 2023 they were up basically zero. So if you average that out now you're looking at 8% rent growth, which is phenomenal compared to the long term average of 2.5%. So we've been outperforming on rent and we needed to take a breather in the last 12 months have been that breather.   Speaker 1 (00:38:32) - Now, if the recession happens, I do expect rents to go down, but not normally they don't. So in a in a in a six month, three month or six month average recession, you know, the average US recession is two quarters. So six months normally you don't get rent drops. You might get, you know, the rents plateau out. Or maybe their rent growth drops from 3% to 1%. That's that's much more common this time. We might see rent growth in a short recession drop by maybe 1% or 2%. And the biggest reason for that is supply. The largest supply of apartments in the history of the country is delivering, starting basically the beginning of 2023 until the end of 2024. So these two years, 2023 and 2024 are massive apartment supply years. And obviously, as you supply 500,000 apartments into an economy that overall is not outperforming, is is doing okay, but and it starts to go into a recession, then you're going to see some concessions. And that concession drives down the price of multifamily, which then drives down the price of single family rentals.   Speaker 1 (00:39:36) - So we could see a decline in rents. I'd say probably 1% to 2% is is possible, but that decline is likely to be short. So I think let's assume that the recession starts in the final quarter of 2023, which might not happen. I think it's more of a Q1 and Q2 of next year. If the recession does happen, those are the two most likely quarters. As soon as the economy rebounds and becomes positive, we should see very strong and stable rent growth. Well, I would say stable rent growth for the rest of 2024 by 2025, a lot of that incoming supply is done. So now supply supply and demand are in balance. So in 2025 I expect strong rent growth as much as 4 or 5%. And in 2026 I expect very, very strong rent growth. We might we might see 6% rent growth in 2026. So 2024 is that year where rent growth is a little bit shaky because of this. Word, the recession word. And, you know, whether it happens or not is we don't know.   Speaker 1 (00:40:37) - And when it happens, we don't know how long it lasts. But I think because it's an artificially induced recession, it's likely to be the vanilla US six month recession, which basically drives wages closer to that 2% target for the fed, and gives the fed the room to start easing up on interest rates.   Speaker 2 (00:40:56) - Recessions are not good. Perhaps the one positive about a recession is that then we can all stop talking about and speculating upon when does eventually happen, because on average, it does happen every five years. It's just a normal part of the business cycle. Well, Neal, this has been very informative around the multifamily world and beyond, including projections for the future. You've always got such great insight in stats on the pulse of the market. If someone wants to learn more about you and your resources, what's the best way for them to do that?   Speaker 1 (00:41:31) - Come join us at multifamily. That's multifamily, followed by the letter EW.com we get about 20,000 registrations in our webinars. We do about a dozen webinars each year.   Speaker 1 (00:41:41) - We do them on single family multifamily. We do them on other asset classes like office. We just did one on on on the office apocalypse and people like that because there's no education fee, there's no subscription, there's no upsell. People come join us. They learn a lot. And occasionally during one of these webinars, if you have a multifamily project that we are doing, we mention it for about 30s. And if that sounds like it's interesting, you can, you know, jump in and you know and participate. But otherwise, you know, there's a lot of tens of thousands of people that have never participated with us in any of our projects that come and join us at this ecosystem of learning called multifamily EW.com.   Speaker 2 (00:42:22) - Neal Bawa, Gro Capital and multifamily EW.com. It's been informative, just like it was the last time you were here. It's been great having you back on the show.   Speaker 1 (00:42:32) - Thanks for having me on, Keith.    

From Neal Bawa's perspective, multi-family is the “Right Now” investment opportunity. It all comes down to a more rational approach to underwriting and avoiding the tendency to chase trends or try to time the market. Neal is known in real estate circles as The Mad Scientist of Multi-Family. In this episode he contrasts investors with speculators, saying many believe they are the former, but are actually the latter.   WHAT TO LISTEN FORWhy cap rates and net operating income are crucial metrics in real estate investmentThe relationship between cap rates, NOI, and property value and how cap rates can indicate a buyer's or seller's marketWhy underwriting is so importantWhy speculation is counterproductive in periods of market moderation or downturns  ABOUT NEAL BAWABesides being one of the most in-demand speakers in commercial real estate, Neal is a data guru, a process freak, and an outsourcing expert.Neal treats his $1+ billion-dollar multifamily portfolio as an ongoing experiment in efficiency and optimization. The Mad Scientist lives by two mantras. His first mantra is that: We can only manage what we can measure. His second mantra is that: Data beats gut feel by a million miles. These mantras and a dozen other disruptive beliefs drive profit for his 900+ investors.  CONNECT WITH NEALEmail – neal@grocapitus.com LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/neal-bawaFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/navraj.bawaFacebook Grocapitus - https://www.facebook.com/grocapitusYou Tube - https://www.youtube.com/c/MultifamilyU  CONNECT WITH USTo learn more about investment opportunities, join the Cityside Capital Investor ClubFollow us on Facebook: Cityside CapitalFollow us on Instagram: @citysidecapital_tim_lyonsConnect with us on LinkedIn: Tim LyonsConnect with us via Email: greg@citysidecap.com | tim@citysidecap.com

My guest in this episode is Neal Bawa. Neal is the Founder and CEO of Grocapitus, a commercial real estate investment company that specializes in acquiring apartment complexes across the US for over 300 investors. He is the CEO and Founder of MultiFamilyU, a multifamily education business that teaches Multifamily acquisition and management techniques to thousands of students annually. Grocapitus has a portfolio of over $1 billion, including Multifamily, Student Housing, and Hospitality. The Grocapitus team is running both new construction projects and value add projects. Over 4,000 real estate investors attend Neal's training webinars, seminars, and boot camps each year. Interview Links: Grocapitus Investments Resources: The 21 Best Cashflow Niches™: www.cashflowninja.com/21niches Subscribe To The Best Cashflow Niches™ Newsletter: www.cashflowninja.com/bestniches Join My Inner Circle & Mastermind Cashflow Nirvana www.cashflowninja.com/nirvana Connect With Us: Website: http://cashflowninja.com Podcast: http://resetinvestingsecrets.com Podcast: http://cashflowinvestingsecrets.com Substack: https://mclaubscher.substack.com/ Amazon Audible: https://a.co/d/1xfM1Vx Amazon Audible: https://a.co/d/aGzudX0 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cashflowninja/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/mclaubscher Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecashflowninja/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mclaubscher/ Gab: https://gab.com/cashflowninja Gettr: https://gettr.com/user/mclaubscher Minds: https://www.minds.com/cashflowninja Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/c/Cashflowninja Bitchute: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/cashflowninja/ Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/c-329875 Odysee: https://odysee.com/@Cashflowninja:9 Gab Tv: https://tv.gab.com/channel/cashflowninja Brighteon: https://www.brighteon.com/channels/cashflowninja

Taylor welcomes Neal Bawa back to dive into the state of the economy, inflation, interest rates, and how the banking crisis is affecting real estate now and in the future. Neal believes that the banking crisis will have extraordinary repercussions for the world and that it has acted as a catalyst for everyone to shine a floodlight on what else in the economy could go wrong. However, he notes that multifamily has the lowest exposure to mid-size banks of all real estate asset classes, making it less vulnerable to this crisis. One key takeaway from this conversation is that data insights are vital to figuring out what's next in hacking real estate.    [00:01 - 12:06] Opening Segment Introducing Neal to the show The state of the economy, inflation, interest rates, and the banking crisis' impact on real estate Government organizations primarily fund multifamily loans Interest rates may decline, but fewer lenders in the market could offset any benefits Property quality will determine the impact of interest rate changes and lender pullback   [12:06 - 22:50] Significant Discounts and Distress in US Property Markets Brokers are seeing a lot of cash calls in the industry in April Discounts of 18-26% are already available in markets like Phoenix and Atlanta Savvy investors see this as a great time to buy, but 90% of investors are freaked out Inflation is under control due to significant movement in the labor market March saw a moderation and weakening, with major industries pulling back and layoffs happening   [22:51 - 26:53] Long-term Inflation and Single-Family Housing Markets  Layoffs are happening in various sectors due to CEOs managing a recession Inflation is under control in the short term, but the long-term outlook is concerning The single-family market has performed outstandingly well despite predictions of a decline Debt fixed rates have prevented distress in the single-family market, while the multifamily market struggles with floating debt   [26:54 - 30:17] Closing Segment What is one thing we are not discussing that we should be?Long term inflation Connect with Neal through the links below Quote/s:   "Nobody anywhere on this planet, including all the federal reserves banks put together, can put the long-term inflation genie back in the bottle." - Neal Bawa Connect with Neal! Website: www.MultifamilyU.com  Invest passively in multiple commercial real estate assets such as apartments, self-storage, medical facilities, hotels, and more through https://www.passivewealthstrategy.com/crowdstreet/   Track your rental property's finances with Stessa. Go to www.escapingwallstreet.com. Join our Passive Investor Club to access passive commercial real estate investment opportunities.   LEAVE A REVIEW + help someone who wants to explode their business growth by sharing this episode or clicking here to listen to our previous episodes.

In this episode, Toby Mathis, Esq. of Anderson Business Advisors welcomes Neal Bawa back to the show for his third appearance. Neal is the founder and CEO of Grocapitus, a commercial real estate investment company, and CEO of MultifamilyU, an apartment investing education company. Neal walks us through the realities we're facing in the economy right now, discussing the Silicon Valley Bank failure, the Fed and interest rates, the bond and mortgage markets, and when and where to look for real estate bargains in the latter half of 2023. Highlights/Topics: The Fed poisoned the banking system by flooding it with cheap money The bond problems are not the same as 2008 Preventing bank runs that will domino other banks failing Reduction of bank liquidity reduces business activity Price stability and the banking system FDIC and the Fed dumping cash into banks Twitter creates bank runs in hours, not days Western states are down from peak in mid-2022 One full percent cut in interest rates will start real estate price reductions Real estate sectors suffering post covid – offices, hotels Q3 is a good time to buy, with extensions The ‘spread' and when mortgages might drop Big banks will get the deposits when smaller banks fail The next 6 months are a good time for bargains Resources: Grocapitus Website https://www.grocapitus.com/ MultiFamily Website https://multifamilyu.com/ Listen to Neal's July 2020 appearance https://andersonadvisors.com/podcast/real-estate-investing-with-analytics/ Listen to Neal's Oct 2022 “2023 Housing Market Forecast” appearance https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2023-housing-market-forecast-why-real-estate-will-remain/id1446273914?i=1000579549992 Anderson Advisors https://andersonadvisors.com/ Toby Mathis on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX5nh607M8hSBLiMB9MgbIQ

As much as rents have risen over the past several years, the gap between home ownership and renting is the largest in history by a very, very wide margin, according to Neal Bawa. Neal is the CEO and Founder of Multifamily University and Grocapitus Investments, he's a technologist who is universally known in real estate circles as the "Mad Scientist of Multifamily". As he looks at the current state of the markets, he sees “Build To Rent” as the hottest part of real estate right now. He believes that population demographic shifts are not only important, but they're all that matters when selecting markets to invest in. He's looking at build to rent multifamily as "horizontal apartments" and it's a market he expects to continue growing. He realizes that it doesn't work everywhere, it uses a lot more land for one thing, so the location is important, perhaps on the edges of suburbs where land is cheaper and more available. For the video of this interview, visit: https://youtu.be/0QPR0KcRqLY To Contact Neal: - Just search "Neal Bawa" on Google (He's the only one.) - Visit Neal at MultifamilyU: https://multifamilyu.com/ Are you REady2Scale Your Multifamily Investments? Learn more about growing your wealth, strengthening your portfolio, and scaling to the next level and visit www.bluelake-capital.com. To connect with Jeannette & her team directly & find out how to invest alongside Blue Lake, email them at info@bluelake-capital.com or just complete our potential investor form at https://www.bluelake-capital.com/new-investor-form and they'll be in touch with you. If you'd like to be on our podcast or know someone who should, visit https://www.bluelake-capital.com/podcast and click the link to submit a guest. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Real estate is an occupation that can create abundant opportunities in lifestyle. In today's episode, Anna Myers who is a Chief Operating Officer shares with us her plans for watching the horizon and understanding how upcoming market changes can impact things.She also talks about data that isn't just about numbers—it is having continuous research study for the market. So one of the powers of our company and its efficiencies are rooted in knowledge. Buckle up and learn how to grow your market with plans and processes!Remember, this is your MBA. Have a notepad handy, and get ready to take some notes!Key Points from This Episode: • Anna shares her stepping stone on Grocapitus.• The hard-to-keep growth count of Grocapitus as of November 2022.• How to manage large portfolios?• What moratorium happens during the peak of COVID? • Anna talks about essential research studies on companies. • Ways of doing assets and getting away from a curve that is coming. • Anna shares about the growth value multi-family income funds. • Anna talks about their existing portfolios and the ship-shaped current assets. • Debts couldn't be ignored.• What is dry powder?• Anna's vision towards the best assets in the best neighborhoods of the best markets and the best states.Tweetables:“So we also believe it's very, very important to show your data to your investors” – Anna Myers “Our data is based on third party knowledge. I mean, we're not going around creating data.” – Anna Myers“Debt is so volatile right now that it's a very difficult environment to operate in” – Anna Myers“Be careful about where you buy. Because if you buy in a place that's still coming down, you could end up in the wrong, upside down there.” – Anna Myers“No one can tell you absolutely for sure which market is gonna do the absolute best.” – Anna Myers Links Mentioned:Grocapitus - GrofundMultifamily UAbout Anna MyersAnna serves as Vice President at Grocapitus, a commercial real estate investment company in the San Francisco Bay Area. Anna is a third-generation commercial real estate entrepreneur who applies her 25+ years of experience in technology and business to finding, analyzing, acquiring and asset managing commercial properties in key markets across the U.S. Together with her business partner Neal Bawa, they approach real estate through a data science lens to create compelling profits for 1000+ investors.As the lead underwriter for the company, Anna teaches deal analysis for MultifamilyU in quarterly Boot Camps. MultifamilyU is an apartment investing education company owned by the principal Neal Bawa. Also via MultifamilyU, Anna hosts weekly webinar events featuring top speakers in real estate. Anna is regularly interviewed on podcasts in the industry, with over 25 podcast appearances so far in 2019. Anna Myers also co-hosts two monthly Real Estate Investor Meetups in the Bay Area with over 1000 members.Related to Syndication with Grocapitus, Anna and Neal have successfully completed Equity Raises of 25 Million dollars for Multifamily Acquisitions in the last 12 months, resulting in over 1300 units purchased. They are on track to close another 1300 in the next 12 months. As the asset manager for the Grocapitus portfolio, Anna again brings the data driven approach to track and insert optimizations to the properties to help drive property performance and investor returns.

Neal Bawa, is the CEO/ Founder at Grocapitus a data-driven commercial real estate investment company. Grocapitus acquires and builds multifamily & commercial properties across the U.S. with holdings that span multiple projects.  Neal also serves as CEO at MultifamilyU, a real estate investing Education Company.Main Points:USA hegemony – Will it prevail?What's in store for the world as conflict with Russia and China heats up?What about energy?Connect with Neal:neal@grocapitus.comneal@finatt.com(408) 290-4136http://www.neilbawa.com/   www.Grocapitus.com   www.MultifamilyU.com  

Neal Bawa is a technologist who is universally known in real estate circles as the Mad Scientist of Multifamily. Besides being one of the most in-demand speakers in commercial real estate, Neal is a data guru, a process freak, and an outsourcing expert. Neal treats his $947 million-dollar portfolio as an ongoing experiment in efficiency and optimization. The Mad Scientist lives by two mantras. His first mantra is that "We can only manage what we can measure". His second mantra is that "Data beats gut feel by a million miles". These mantras and a dozen other disruptive beliefs drive profit for his 700+ investors. In today's episode, Neal gives his take on what is happening in the multi-family market today, the dynamics of the current economy, and what he sees coming over the next year. Episode Links: https://multifamilyu.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/neal-bawa/  --- Transcript Before we jump into the episode, here's a quick disclaimer about our content. The Remote Real Estate Investor podcast is for informational purposes only, and is not intended as investment advice. The views, opinions and strategies of both the hosts and the guests are their own and should not be considered as guidance from Roofstock. Make sure to always run your own numbers, make your own independent decisions and seek investment advice from licensed professionals.   Michael: Hey, everyone, welcome to another episode of the Remote Real Estate Investor. I'm Michael Albaum and today joining me again is Neal Bawa, who is the founder of MultifamilyU and a big time multifamily syndicator and Neal is gonna be putting his finger on the pulse of the multifamily market and sharing with us some pretty hard hitting facts. So let's strap in, and let's get into it.   Neal, welcome back to the show. Thank you so much for taking the time to hang out with me. I really appreciate you coming on.   Neal: It's great to be back, Michael. Great to be back.   Michael: Thank you, Neal. So last time, on our prior episode, we talked a lot about the single family space and what we saw going on with the market today. I'd love if we could focus our conversation on multifamily, since I know that you do quite a bit in that space as well.   Neal: That's right. I live and breathe multifamily. I started with single family like a lot of you know, the folks that are using your platform did, but multifamily is more scalable. So we currently have about a billion dollars of multifamily 31 projects about 4800 units that are either in construction or in lease up or you know, are stabilize, right. So, you know, a significant portion of them are already stabilized that we're holding, but we're also building a bunch of them, and working on the construction of some of them. So it's you know, what's happening today is so dramatic and so unusual. We you know, one could compare, maybe it's not as dramatic as the first three months of COVID. But otherwise, it's pretty crazy. It's pretty dramatic, dramatic. So it's, it's a great time to talk about multifamily.   Michael: Yeah. So a billion dollars and just turning back the clock a minute. I'm curious, how long did it take you to get to that point from when you started?   Neal: So I you know, ignoring a past company where I was a partner, this particular company has basically gotten to that billion dollars since February 2018. So, so about four and a half years, roughly.   Michael: Holy smoke, I was just interviewing a gentleman who's got a business he wants to scale to a billion dollars over a nine year period. So you mourn cut that in half, that's incredible growth. Neal: Well, keep in mind, I don't want to demean what we've done, because we're very proud of it. But with a when you're purchasing multifamily, the numbers get big, pretty, you know, quickly, right? So 100 unit multifamily today is $20 million. So you do get up there very fast. So I still consider myself to be a mid-level syndicator. There's dozens and dozens and dozens of companies that have bigger portfolios than I do and also, for reference, a billion dollar portfolio usually only equates to about 10 employees in a syndication business. Now, in my case, I have 30 employees, because I've 20 of them in the Philippines and that's helping me scale and so I have 20 full time employees in the Philippines in addition to those 10 people. But I think it's useful to have that frame of reference, I think that you're setting targets in multifamily, a billion is actually not a bad target the set.   Michael: Okay, I will definitely keep that in mind as I as I scale my portfolio. That's, that's really great to know. But Neal, let's transition and I would love to get your thoughts because you are a data scientist, you have so many great analytics to kind of backup your thoughts and opinions and viewpoints. Tell us what like what's going on in the multifamily space as we recording this today late, mid to late September.   Neal: Prices are falling and they will continue to fall. It's a bad time to buy any kind of multifamily in any market in the US and I rarely, I've never actually said that before, maybe with the exception of you know, first month COVID. It's currently right now, no one should be buying anything in the United States. But here's the good news. You don't have to wait very long. The market is now adjusting very rapidly. So I think that I think February March of next year would be a terrific time to buy you know whether it's the one to four units that get listed on Roofstock. By the way, I currently have a triplex listed on roof stock, check it out, it's on Brandon Avenue in Chicago. Whether it's those units or it's the you know, the larger unit we were also selling, you know, a 200 unit property at this point in time not on Roofstock but we're not buying anything. I mean, we've basically told our acquisition people to be pencils down stop looking, stop talking to brokers stop traveling to properties, because we are halfway through a correction. So and I'll explain why. Multifamily is a very different animal from single family. So let's say Michael is buying a single family property and it's next to another one that's identical to it. So there's two row houses and next to it. Well, if somebody last month paid a million dollars for the first one, Michael can get a loan that appraises for 1,000,000 value for his property, he can get that easily, regardless of what really happens in the market, he can get that, you know, and prices take so long to fall that even if the price actually falls, Michael can use a comp from half a mile away to still get that million dollars in value. So the banks on the single family side are really trusting you to do your, you know, to not to overpay, right. So if they're just looking at it, is there a comp that matches it and if it does, we'll just give this guy alone, right and if they feel like the times are hard, they might change their LTVs from 75 to 70 and but that's pretty much as far as the single family market goes. The multifamily market is radically different because a multi one multifamily property is a business. It's like you're buying a Tommy's carwash, or you're buying, you know you're buying a subway or a chain of subways, that's the best way to look at it. It's a business. So your underwriting really doesn't matter. It's the banks underwriting that matters, the bank that's giving you the funding and the moment that we start seeing interest rates go up in the market, the value of the property immediately decreases. Why? Because the bank's underwriting decreases the value of the property, because multifamily properties are based on just two things, something known as a cap rate, which is basically the market's estimate of what the property should be worth and then something else known as net operating income, which is basically rents minus expenses right? Now, the moment and you know, the moment your interest rates increase, and most multifamily today in the US is on floating rate debt. So what that means is, as interest rates go up, your mortgage is going up something a number called DSCR. I won't go into that into detail on that. But there's a number called DSCR, that basically starts to fall. So the higher your mortgage goes, the lower that number is. This means that, you know, let's say I'm a buyer and I'm selling two multi families and they're right next to each other, right. So they're same number of units, same occupancy, same design, so that their net operating income for both of these properties is exactly the same, like down to the last cent right. Now one, let's say one soft sell sold for $30 million. Okay, and I waited a month like 30 days, and the Fed raise interest rates by 100 bits right, but basically 1%. The second property now is worth less. It's worth less, even though there's another property that sold 30 days ago, that's identical with the same number of tenants with the same rents. It's now worth less so multifamily is on a sliding scale and that sliding scale is affected by interest rate hikes much sooner than single family.   Obviously, single family is also affected. We've seen there's 90 bond markets in the US where single family prices are coming down, but they're coming down really slowly, right. Like the I think the average decline in the last six weeks has been 2%, right and I mean, seasonal declines are bigger than 2%. So I don't even know what to make of that 2% yet, but on the multifamily side, depending upon the market, we've seen declines of six to 12% in multifamily prices already and in remember, the Fed only really started raising in May of this year that you know, we're doing this in the middle of September, right. So in five months, the Feds basically raised everything there was a tiny raise back in March, but it was it was so tiny that it really didn't make any difference. So in five months, the Fed has basically affected multifamily prices to the tune of six to 12%. Here's the bad news. That's not the end, because everybody including yours truly was thinking that when last week's inflation report came out, we would see a downward trend, and the Fed would give us some guidance that yeah, okay, well, instead of raising by 75 bits this week that there's a Fed meeting going on this week, we're gonna raise by 50 and then we'll see what happens in November, maybe we'll raise it by 25 and we were like, okay, if that happens, great. You know, where the Fed funds rate is at 2.25. They raised by 50 pips this week, then they raised about 25 pips in November at 3%. We're done with the Fed funds rate, and that means that multifamily doesn't have to drop any further. Well, it sucks but that didn't happen. Inflation didn't drop and so now the Fed this week is definitely going to raise interest rates by 75 bits, maybe they might even do it by 100 and that basically will spike up interest rates by 100 points immediately and then they'll have to do 75 points in November and maybe another 50 points or 25 points in December. So because of that bad news, we now know that we're midway through this drop in multifamily, right. So we think that there's another five or 6% drop coming by February or March. Is this bad? No. If you're not, you know, if you're not buying anything, just wait for five or six months and you get five or 6%. You know, you know benefits. What the heck is wrong about that because the market isn't bad. Rents haven't decreased, rents are continuing to increase nationwide for both single family and multifamily. So this isn't like 2008, where there's 5 million empty homes show me empty homes. I mean, there really aren't any, the market is an amazing occupancy levels. This is just one single factor, the cost of debt. So, if you can, in February, buy a property for 5%, cheaper, you will have had two advantages. Number one, the next six months, you're not paying for that high cost of debt, right? Number two, you would, you know, say 5%. So your property is cheaper, so your debts less right? Number three, you will be within six months of the Fed cutting interest rates. This is the part that most people don't understand. The Federal Reserve is not trying to kill us. They're just doing their job. and their job is to control inflation because if you don't control inflation, really bad shit happens really, really bad should happen. So it's much better to control inflation and obviously the industry that is most affected when you raise interest rates is real estate. No other industry in the US is affected as much as real estate by interest rate hikes. Here's the good news though. If you look at the last 61 years, the Fed raised interest rates nine times sharp up sharp down. So if you buy in Feb, by, I think July or August, the Fed should be dropping interest rates or at least talking about dropping interest rates.   Why is that important? Mortgage rates are guesses. So single family mortgage rates and multifamily mortgage rates in the US are just guesswork where the market tries to guess what the Fed will do next. So if the Fed starts talking about interest rate declines, the market starts to prices in., right and when the Fed says oh, well, we might hold, right the market reacts. So the interest rates basically adjust even before the Fed actually does anything. Perfect example of this: In December, the Fed started talking about interest rate hikes, but didn't actually raise anything. They didn't change anything until March. But in those four months, interest rates went up 100 basis points, they went up an entire 1% because the market was guessing what the Fed would do. So if you buy a multifamily in February and the Feds basically start to lower rates by June, July and August. Now you're in a better environment and as long as your rates are floating, they may float the other way, they may float down and give you a benefit. Where you start high and then you float downwards. That's why I think it makes sense to wait. I've seen a lot of my friends that have larger portfolios and me 2 billion 3 billion send emails to their investor saying we're pencils down. mean, what that means is we're not even underwriting a property we you know, we see 10 properties a day and normally we underwrite three or four of them. Pencils down means you just click the delete button 10 times and you're done with your job for the day.   Michael: Wow, I have so many questions. But I guess the first one is, why are mortgage rate guesses? Why doesn't, why don't banks look at actual data and what the actual borrowing rate is today and not worry about forecasting, but use hindsight. So it takes the guesswork out of it.   Neal: I'm not 100% sure on that. Just so you know, that's what the multifamily market does, right. So the multifamily market has two kinds of loans or I should say three kinds of loans. One of them is the guesswork kind where they try and guess what the Fed is going to do. The other one is one that's based on LIBOR or now called Sofer, these are basically and basically they're based on like treasury bonds and what those numbers are those loans. The moment the Fed hikes the they're going to hike this week, right so that they have a meeting on Wednesday, that we're probably going to hype it by 75 pips. Well, if I have that kind of loan, and I do at some of my properties, guess what, on Thursday, my debt is a lot more expensive. 75 basis points more expensive. So you can see that on the multifamily side. I have never, ever seen a single family loan do that. Every mortgage that I've seen 30 year 15 year five year ARM, they're all guesses forward looking guesses on the Feds rate. Why? I have no freaking clue.   Michael: Okay… We'll have to find someone out there that can give us a definitive answer as to why that is. But I'm also curious now, you mentioned at the beginning of our conversation that in the single family space, the banks are kind of depending on us as borrowers to look at the value of the home and determine hey, this is worth or not, which seems very counterintuitive because the majority of multifamily investors that I know, tend to be able to underwrite really, really well, oftentimes better than the bank and so why is the bank's taking the power away from a multifamily investor and really giving it to a single family owner it seems a little bit backwards now.   Neal: Single Family is considered to be a REIT in the United States and single family lending is encouraged by politicians. The overall banking system believes that even if they go a little it over on the single family side, it's not such a bad thing, obviously 2008 was 2007 was different because it was not a real estate failure. It was a failure of lending standards, you know, they were basically giving gardeners million dollar loans, right. So that's not going to end well. So obviously, I don't see any evidence of that kind of stupidity existing today. So there are lending standards, they're pretty tight on those lending standards, they're not going above them, you have to be, you know, a good, good buyer. But beyond that, they as long as there's an appraised property that similar your property will appraise. I am not in favor of this other countries do not do this. Banks underwrite single family loans in other countries, the way that we underwrite multifamily loans. But because of Americans believe that single family is a very key part of their life. We've seen this appraisal based system for the last 30 or 40 years and every once in a while it blows up a bubble just like it did in 2007. So this is a conscious decision that the people that run this company had a country have made, and it has lots and lots of good sides, because it tends to overall increase the prices of single family appraisal, you know, somebody buys for more, the your property is more than next was more next one's more. So generally, it has a beneficial effect on the real estate market. But it also tends to create more bubbles than other countries.   Michael: Interesting. Okay, that's really good insights. So knowing that this isn't the ideal time to buy multifamily. What should people be doing? Is this the time to get educated, is the time to go get capitals is the time you know, what should folks be doing right now?   Neal: Um, I think that I'll give you some ideas, right? So I'll give you kind of a sense of, Well, what would Neal Bawa be doing and what would maybe somebody that's newer than Neal Bawa, you know, doesn't have a lot of multifamily should be doing. So let's just focus on that piece first, right, because what I do is really different from what you should be doing, depending upon where you are in the process. So let's say you're early in the multifamily process, you should be educating your investors, that an extraordinary opportunity is going to present itself most likely in q2 of next year. So that's, you know, April, May, June and that opportunity is there for the first time since the Great Depression, that in the 2008, depression, we have an unusual thing happening, and that will be multifamily prices, not single family, but multifamily prices will be low in q2 next year, compared to let's say, now, or compared to, especially compared to a year ago, they will be low. But the economy will not be anywhere like 2008, it'll still it'll be weak, it will be in a recession. But this is what is known as an artificial recession. So recessions are of two kinds, they come in two flavors. Number one, a recession that is artificially created by the Fed to cool down inflation, and we're about to go into one of those recessions, those tend to be shallow, and the they don't damage the economy in the long term, they create short term damage, and the economy tends to recover fairly quickly from those unemployment doesn't tend to go down too much. You know, so, so go up too much, I should say, you know, so. So we're about to go into one of those and those are the kinds of recessions where you want to buy multifamily. Why because multifamily prices still decrease as interest rates go up, regardless of the strength of the underlying economy. So the underlying economy right now is amazingly strong, right. So with all the hand grenades that the Fed has thrown at us for over five months, they've managed to move the unemployment rate from a historic 3.5% to a historic 3.7%. In five months, they basically haven't managed to dent the unemployment market at all and even that point, 2% increase has largely been because of being because of more people joining the workforce. So post COVID, a lot of people took a year and two years off, a lot of those people are now returning to the to the workforce because they're running out of that stimulus money and that's really what that point to otherwise, when you see like you might see, you know, news about layoffs in the United States, Google it actually look at the statistics. Anytime at any point in the economy, there's layoffs, right. But there haven't been more layoffs than they were six months ago or 12 months ago. It's just the regular layoffs that happened in a normal economy. So there's the economy is extraordinarily strong, and it's going to get dragged into recession simply because the Fed is going to keep throwing hand grenades until the economy goes into recession. But because the underlying economy will stay pretty strong during this shallow recession, you've got a onetime opportunity to buy cheap multifamily because multifamily is just as affected in terms of price. Whether the economy underlying is weak or strong right and you have a quick chance to come out of it and make a lot of money. You should be educating your investors telling them about this opportunity, because I haven't seen that opportunity at all since 2013.   Michael: Interesting.   Neal: That's what you should be doing, telling every investor about this and telling them, I am not buying anything now. Well, you probably know me, you know, don't have the investor money to buy anything now. But what's the harm in saying it's still true?   Michael: Right, right, right. Do you think though, Neal, that at that time, q2, next year, that folks, sellers, owners are going to see that, hey, there's this dip in prices, and therefore, I'm not going to sell because I don't want to sell at a loss I bought 234 or five years ago, I'm going to hold on to my property and no, there will be an inventory shortage, or do you do not foresee that happening?   Neal: There is already an inventory shortage in multifamily prices have still dropped. So the if you look at the inventory available to sell in the multifamily market, it's half of what we had a year ago. But multifamily is different from single family in single family is shortage of inventory tends to drive prices up. With multifamily a shortage of inventory cannot drive prices up because banks are underwriting and they don't give a flying F about what the inventory is. They just care about your debt cost and your debt cost is going up. So when so the key thing is that the single family and multifamily markets are fundamentally different. One of them is just a business and the business is based on its debt cost, and its net operating income and nothing else right. Whereas single family is based on demand. If there's nothing available on your street to sell whatever appears is going to sell for more. That's not how multifamily works. So even right now, supply is pretty low. But that doesn't mean that people are over able to over bid, because if they over bid, guess what happens, Michael, they can't get a loan for that amount and now they have to raise lots of extra equity, which reduces their returns and so a lot of them are like this is painful, we're just going to sit back for three to four months for the market to adjust. Buyers have sellers have to understand that either they just keep their property off the marketplace, which you know, you can do infinite infinitely, you can do it for some amount of time or they will adjust their pricing as they already have. Remember, we've already seen a six to 12% delta in just six months. That's how quickly multifamily reacts and I think that's why I'm in the multifamily business because I liked the logic of that. If your costs are increasing and your profits are decreasing, you should get a lower price, right.   Michael: It's pretty black and white.   Neal: Yeah, yes and that's how it works in multifamily. With single family, you can very often see costs increasing, but because everyone's holding off, nobody's basically selling their property. Everyone's like I've got lots of equity in the property. Now there's no property in the marketplace and even with costs increasing, you can often see increase in pricing. To me that has no logic and so I don't play in in that in that field.   Michael: Yeah, yeah, no, it makes total sense. Neal, let's talk about multifamily loan products and some of the different ones that are out there. You mentioned there's three different loan types. There's the fix for five 710 years, there's the LIBOR, floating rates, what's the third one?   Neal: So the second one is tied to so I'll go back, right. So the first one straightforward, fixed, usually it's five years and 10 year fixed. The second one is tied to a number called LIBOR or LIBOR or so far, these days, it's called Silver. That's kind of the new version of LIBOR. So it's a number and the loans will be, you know, LIBOR plus something LIBOR plus 2.25, right and what that means is the moment the Fed changes, interest rates, that's gonna change, right? So your, the interest rate, you're paying changes the very next day, right, the bank's gonna send you a letter saying, hey, Sofer has changed, therefore your interest rate is now x, right and boom, you're paying more, the third one is available, that is basically a rate that you it's a floating rate. right, but it's not tied to LIBOR. It's not tied to Sofer. It's speculative in some sort of ways. Now, it does tend to go up as interest rates go up, it's really tied to treasuries. Now, US Treasury bonds are a speculative product, right? So today, something happens in China or something happens in Russia, something happens in Ukraine, and all of a sudden, treasury bonds will shoot up or shoot down and so that particular rate is tied to the treasury bonds. So it's speculative and so, you know, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, often these floating off of these floating rates. Now, in the end, the rate is going to end up more or less where the Sofer one is, but it's not immediate. It's not like you don't get that happening the next day after the Fed raises interest rates and I'll tell you why because it's tied to treasuries and treasuries move upward. Are downwards because of 100 different factors. Only one of those are interest rates. So geopolitical situations can often make treasuries move downwards. For example, if the Chinese economy collapses tomorrow and there's blood on the street, treasuries will go downwards, even if the Fed continues to raise interest rates. That makes sense? So, to these sorts of things, these movements can happen so that rates that are tied to the US Treasury bonds tend to move up and down with Treasury bonds. So those are the three kinds.   Michael: Okay, and who is do you think well suited or conversely, not well suited for each type of loan?   Neal: So in terms of who is the lender?   Michael: No, if I'm a buyer, and I'm going to buy … Yeah…   Neal: I think, yeah, yeah. So there's also something known as a bridge rate, when it bridge loans, which no one is getting, I don't know, if a single person that's gotten a bridge loan in the last 30 days, because there are simply very high there are 7%, or even higher in the last, you know, 30 days. So the vast majority of people today that should be buying, let's say you have to buy for whatever reason, you're not stopping you want to buy the key advisors, everyone should today should get a floating rate loan, because if you believe like I do, that the feds job is to raise rates and then drop them and that's what they've done nine times in the last 61 years, then you have to believe at some point in the future 6-12 18, 24 months rates will be lower, because right now, they're pretty darn high, right? So if you believe that locking in your rates doesn't make sense. So the market today, all we have is really Fannie Freddie floating lanes, rate rates, which are similar to what your local bank would provide. So maybe you have a smaller project, you want to go with local bank, those are the same kinds of rates that Fannie Freddie provides, they're probably charging you a quarter point more, but you've got a relationship with them, their points are lower. So lots of people go with local banks. But I think that's the only game in the market for multifamily today and the other thing that's happening in the multifamily market, which is driving prices down as you get multifamily, you might in a really boom time environment, you could get loans that are 75%, loan to value, right and then when the market starts to tighten up, they go to 70. Well, a few weeks ago, most lenders went to 65. So they're giving you a lot less loan to value for the same property forcing you to raise more equity. When you raise more equity, your returns go down, your underwriting suffers. So once again, people are like this not working. I'm not going to make any money. My investors have something known as pref or preferential treatment. So the property underperforms, they're going to make their pref I'm gonna make nothing. So a lot of people are stepping back, pencils down.   Michael: Yeah. Yeah, that makes total sense. That makes total sense.   Neal: And, and none of this has anything to do with a crash, you know, the 2008 scenario. If you believe that that is going to occur in the next 12 months, you're not data driven because the 2008 scenario, if you look at every if you list the top 10 factors that caused it, because it wasn't any one thing, right? None of those factors, not one of those factors exist today, right? What we do have is we pulled demand forward in 2021. In 2021, we basically helicoptered $10 trillion, worldwide, not 10 trillion in the US, luckily, 4 trillion in the US, but 10 trillion worldwide, we helicopter money to people for the first time in modern history. We've done a little bit of it before in 2009. But remember, we were bailing out banks, we were bailing out General Motors, the money wasn't going directly into people's pockets, right. So here we helicopter $10 trillion worldwide, and there's an inflationary effect. It pulled demand forward, everyone, all of a sudden had money, everyone spent money and so we pulled demand forward from let's say, 2023, next year, to 2021 and when we did that, we ended up creating massive amounts of inflation, nothing to do with the economy itself, but it created massive inflation and now we have no choice but to deal with it. I can tell you this if on the one side you said you know will you take 7% single Family interest rates right over the Fed stopping you know their program now just let him stop it I would say don't do that. Hyperinflation is so insanely dangerous, and so insanely destructive, that I would, even though it would really hurt me. I would take 7% interest rates any day, I will take 8% but I wouldn't tell the thread to stop doing what they're doing. 9% inflation if it gets entrenched if everyone believes that two years from now we're going to be at 9% It's astonishingly destructive.   Michael: Wow, wow. Okay and Neal, I'm just curious in based on your research the nine times over the last six to 10 years, the Fed has raised rates and then pretty succinctly thereafter dropped them. How far do you think we're gonna get, how low do you think inch rates are gonna go? I want the Neal Bawa prediction the crystal ball, if you will…   Neal: The federal funds rate, right, the Fed funds rate is what the Fed raises, they don't raise or lower mortgage rates. It's currently at 2.25% and in two days, it's going to go to 3%. We believe currently that the peak is going to be either 3.5 or 3.75% for the Fed funds rate and we think that on the downward path, they'll cut it all the way down to 1.75%. So from their peak, they'll go down 2%. So from the peak, whatever that peak interest rate is, it should go down 2%, right. Now, sometimes they have to go past that 1.75 on the downward leg, because they've hurt the economy so much when they were raising rates that they have to compensate. But we think that the Meet the perfect equilibrium rate for the Fed is around 1.75. Now, in their, in their public, in the public, they talk about it being 2.25. That's where they would like equilibrium to be. But they never seem to ever achieve that. It's always lower than that in a normal market. So they just like to talk it up a little bit to set expectations. So we think that whatever that top interest rate is that you're going to see the highest interest rate, the mortgage rate. Once the Fed is done and brings it down, you should see mortgage rates 2%, lower. So it there's a possibility that sometime in the next 180 days, you'll see a 7% mortgage rate, right. So it might touch that number, but I don't think it goes further beyond that. Okay, but I could be completely wrong, because if the Fed doesn't kill inflation, then all bets are off.   Michael: Right, right. Yeah, this is all under the guise of inflation getting tampered back because of the moves and so just to kind of put that in perspective for people as the end users, 2% reduction of the Fed funds rate will typically constitute a 2% drop on what a borrower is going to pay. So if rates get up to 7%, and then Fed Funds pullback to two by 2%, we would expect mortgage rates to hover on that 5% in the consumer market.   Neal: Yes, exactly four and a half to five and a half going up and down a little bit, you'd remember it's speculative, but you'll have plenty of opportunities to you know, lock something in under 5%. So I think the key message is this, never be afraid of 5%. It's really beyond 5%, that the single family economy starts to you know, it starts to miss heartbeats. That's where it starts to be problematic until five, I've really not seen much of an impact in the marketplace, there'll be a little slow down in price increases and right now a slowdown is healthy, they've gone way too much way too fast and so retrenchment is a very healthy thing.   Michael: Yeah. Okay and just for frame of reference for folks, during COVID, the Fed funds rate was zero, right?   Neal: They dropped it. It was zero, correct. So there were we've gone from zero to 2.25, in five and a half months, right and they were threatening to do it for about four months before that, but they wanted the market to adjust before they actually raise the rate. So we've gone up to 2.25. It was zero for two consecutive years. So two years, in two months, the Fed funds rate was zero.   Michael: And has that ever happened in American history that you know if?   Neal: No, I think that pandemic is very unique. We saw the Fed funds rate fall to about 1% in 2009 2010. But they didn't take it down to zero. So the only time they've ever taken it to zero is this time, I expect all future crisis will go beyond zero now that the eurozone has gone negative and Japan's gone negative. There's no stigma attached to going negative. So I think the next crisis will go below zero.   Michael: Wow and that'll be an interesting time to have a loan tied to LIBOR or Sofer?   Neal: It'll be is it's fantastically interesting. I think what we are, Michael, we're living in the middle of the greatest financial experiment in history and it's, it's an experiment that has no precedent, it doesn't have anything that you can look back to, right. We're doing some truly crazy stuff and we're hoping that it will work out even though we have about three years three or 3000 years of monetary history that says it's never worked out for anyone in the past. So we're just hoping that we are different so right it's all about you know, as long as the musical chairs are going people are you know, people are walking and that's how it's going to be and I don't know when the real challenges happen. I think we're getting closer and closer. I feel like China is just about ready to combust at this point. We'll see what happens.   Michael: Okay, well, I will definitely stay tuned, Neal. This was amazing as always, for people that want to pick your brain more, continue the conversation learn more about you. Where's the best place nice for them to do that,   Neal: Um, you can connect with me simply by typing in my name. I'm the only Neal Bawa on the worldwide web. So just NEAL BAWA, hit enter, there's a couple 100 podcasts that I've appeared on. There's webinars, conference recordings, where I'm on stage. If you'd like to chat with me on LinkedIn, once again, I'm the only Neal Bawa on LinkedIn. So go ahead and connect with me there or go to my website, multifamilyu.com. So that's multifamily, followed by the letter u.com. There's about 30,000 people that attend the webinars that are on that site, we have a new one coming up, which is the impact of interest rates on the economy, and the upcoming recession. So real estate at this point is officially in a recession. The housing market is now in a recession, because it's declining. But I think the rest of the economy is going to follow it and so we have a webinar on that and I think that's going to be in three weeks.   Michael; Okay, fantastic. Well, Neal, thank you. Again, really a pleasure to chat with you and have you on and I'm sure we'll stay in touch.   Neal: Awesome. Thanks for having me on.   Michael: You got it, take care.   All right, everyone. That was our episode a big thank you to Neal for coming on love his data driven approach to his conclusions, which I think we probably all could use another dose of that. 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Is the housing market actually in trouble? All the clickbait articles and doomsayers would have you believe so, but the facts are very different. In this episode, Toby Mathis of Anderson Business Advisors welcomes Neal Bawa back to the show. Neal is the founder and CEO of Grocapitus, a commercial real estate investment company, and CEO of MultifamilyU, an apartment investing education company. He's known as the Mad Scientist of Multifamily and uses the power of numbers to acquire properties and create profit for investors. Neal walks us through the facts and data surrounding our economy right now, and looks at historical trends to predict that by mid to late 2023, we will probably be looking at much better interest rates than we're seeing currently. People may not realize that in the global economy, the U.S. is still one of the cheapest real estate markets, relative to individual salaries, and Neal explains that we're actually lucky that we have a Fed that can help correct our markets when they begin to spiral out of control. Highlights/Topics: Fed rates: look at nine past recessions to see how the market corrects Freight costs: watch container costs from China to predict global demand S. economy: we are the strongest in the world, other countries are much worse off than we are currently Clickbait: ignore the noise and alarmist articles you see on social media, look for the data and facts Unemployment and housing demand: demand will return to normal, but prices will remain high Retail and Travel: performing/demand is better than ever Europe's housing market: the majority of properties are owned by investors Looking at historical data: the 2007/08 bubble is the only anomaly of the last 100 years! Liquidity: get yours in line now while it's cheap The U.S. real estate market: compared to India, China, Europe, it's the cheapest in the world relative to individual salaries Resources: Gro Capitus Website https://www.grocapitus.com/ MultiFamily Website https://multifamilyu.com/ Listen to Neal's previous appearance https://andersonadvisors.com/podcast/real-estate-investing-with-analytics/ Fbx.freightos.com https://fbx.freightos.com/ Anderson Advisors https://andersonadvisors.com/ Anderson Advisors on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaL-wApuVYi2Va5dWzyTYVw  

Join co-hosts Richard Coyne & Bill Zahller as they interview guests who left successful careers to pursue a different path on the Road Less Traveled Show! In this episode, we spend time with Neal Bawa!  Neal is a technologist, data scientist, and entrepreneur that turned his sights to real estate.  Neal is a national speaker and has created several successful companies. Neal applies process and efficiency to investing in real estate to deliver strong returns for his investors.    A bit more about Neal: Neal Bawa is a technologist who is universally known in the real estate circles as the Mad Scientist of Multifamily. Besides being one of the most in-demand speakers in commercial real estate, Neal is a data guru, a process freak, and an outsourcing expert. Neal treats his $947 million-dollar portfolio as an ongoing experiment in efficiency and optimization. The Mad Scientist lives by two mantras. His first mantra is that We can only manage what we can measure. His second mantra is that Data beats gut feel by a million miles. These mantras and a dozen other disruptive beliefs drive profit for his 700+ investors. Neal serves CEO / Founder at Grocapitus, an iconic, data-driven commercial real estate investment company. Grocapitus' 28-person team acquires and builds multifamily & commercial properties across the U.S. With more than 700 active investors and over 2,000 reviewing our projects, the Grocapitus portfolio currently spans across 10 states with 31 projects (4 sold) and 4,800 units/beds. The powerful Grocapitus brand has a cult-like following of data-driven investors. The result - Completed equity raises of $270 million* for Multifamily, Mixed-Use, and Industrial acquisitions in the last 18 months, with over 4,800 units purchased. Grocapitus is on track to close another 1,500 units in the next 12 months. Neal loves public speaking and is an energetic and humorous speaker. He also serves as CEO at MultifamilyU, an apartment investing education company. He is a top-rated, in-demand presenter at conferences and events across the country. Over 5,000 students attend his multifamily seminar series each year and hundreds attend his Magic of Multifamily Boot Camps. Tens of thousands listen to his podcast appearances and he has been featured in over 50 top-rated podcasts and radio shows. Neal's asset management and revenue optimization techniques for multifamily are considered unique in the industry. The Mad Scientist engages very frequently and deeply with his vast investor and RE Pro community, with tens of thousands of active connections and conversations across Facebook, LinkedIn, Meetup.com, YouTube, and other channels. Neal is a backyard tomato farmer and a protein diet health nut. He believes in positivity and Karma. He is passionate about the sport of Cricket and about the enormous potential of self-driving electric vehicles to solve the global climate crisis.   Contact Neal:  Website: grocapitus.com Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/neal-bawa Email: neal@grocapitus.com Twitter: multifamilyu   Contact Bill Zahller Phone: 828-275-5035 Email: Bill@ParkCapitalPartnersLLC.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/billzahller   Contact Richard Coyne Phone: 404-245-9732 Email: Richard@ParkCapitalPartnersLLC.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/richardjcoyne   If you would like to learn more about: How Park Capital Partners connects investors with passive income-generating opportunities through real estate, Our Park Capital Value-Add Fund (a 506c fund), Our latest multifamily acquisitions, or The Park Capital Partners Foundation, Inc. (a 501(c)3 non-profit).   Please contact Park Capital Partners LLC in the following ways:  Website: ParkCapitalPartnersLLC.com Email us: info@ParkCapitalPartnersLLC.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ParkCapitalPartners/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/park-capital-partners-llc/   Music by Aliaksei Yukhnevich/Jamendo. Audio and Video production by Kerry Webb.   If you would like to be a guest on our show and have a “path change” story, please reach out to Richard at Richard@ParkCapitalPartnersLLC.com.  We would love to chat with you!

Born and raised in Southwest Louisiana, Ramsey Blakenship joined the US Navy shortly after graduating high school. He is currently a Master Chief Petty Officer Explosive Ordinance Disposal (EOD) Technician in the US Navy Special Operations. His day job involves defeating the Improvised Explosive Device (IED), rendering safe weapons of mass destruction, hostage rescue, underwater mine countermeasure, and conducting direct action missions. As a free-fall parachutist and Navy diver, Ramsey understands the importance of paying attention to detail while working under pressure. Ramsey is an experienced investor specializing in converting distressed properties into income-producing assets. He is an active partner in Real Focus Capital Investments, a co-host of the Gorilla State Podcast, and currently owns several multi-family properties across the United States. He is a graduate of Multifamily University, a member of the MultifamilyU investor group, and founder of the Real Estate Podcast Hosts and Guests Facebook Group. He currently lives in San Diego, CA. is married to his beautiful wife Hope, and is a father of two. [00:01 - 15:32] Ramsey Introduces Himself ● Fortune Cribs helps investors buy short-term rentals and select markets across the country for as little as 10% down with no cash-on-cash returns in the 20-30% range. Go to FortuneCribs.com and book your free consultation now. ● Ramsey serves in the navy for 16 years. o Ramsay Doesn't like the idea of working for the government after retiring he looks for better options to exit. ● Ramsey shares his background and how he got into real estate. o Selling his house o Buying his first duplex ● How a small purchase turned into a large investment o Buying small houses to buying a duplex to buying an apartment complex. [15:33 - 26:32] How to syndicate your first deal ● Nowadays People can partner with others to bring different assets to the table in order to increase their chances of success. ● Importance of starting small and growing bigger. ● It takes time, effort, and networking to succeed in real estate. [26:33 - 33:37] Don't Ask! Just Show People What You Can Do ● Want to know the best-kept secret when it comes to investing in single or multifamily flips? Hire an interior designer. Elevate your design, reconfigure your floor plans and develop functional spaces all to maximize your ROI. Just reach out to Melanie at melanierene@gmail.com. ● Ramsey Talks about his podcast and Building his Network. ● Don't chase people, don't chase money, let people come to you. ● Hiring a coach, having a mentor, and learning the ropes. [33:38 - 38:24] ● Ramsey Shouts “Respect Your Time!” ● One Slice of Wisdom ○ “If you change the way you think you change your thoughts, you change your actions, if you change your actions, you change your results, if you change the results, you change your life.” ● Three Terms: Economy of Scale ● Ramsey's Recommendation ○ The One Thing ○ From Middle Class to Millionaire [38:08 - 39:20] Closing Segment Connect with Ramsey via facebook or visit realfocus.org/our-team/to learn more. Thanks for listening to Multifamily by the Slice! If you liked our show, please LEAVE A 5-STAR REVIEW, like, and subscribe! CONNECT WITH US: --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/ikedre/message

The mad scientist of multifamily is here today.  Neal Bawa is a data scientist. He keeps emotion out of real estate for investors in his $947M portfolio. He believes that higher mortgage interest rates are a smaller obstacle than the Fed's currency creation and destruction. He says: “Accept the risk.” We discuss investor confirmation bias. Neal thinks American cash flow will keep diminishing. Of all emerging trends, Neal believes that the work from home trend is among the most substantial. Learn more about Neal at www.MultifamilyU.com or by searching “Neal Bawa”. The blockchain is a digital ledger. It allows everyone to access information publicly and securely. It allows for the democratization of information. Blockchain looks to disrupt the real estate title industry. Exorbitant title insurance fees could go extinct. Tokenization is easier with blockchain. This means that you can sell real estate shares without friction. Institutional investors are poised to own more of the real estate market, taking share from mom-and-pop operators. Resources mentioned: Show Notes: www.GetRichEducation.com/396 Neal Bawa's resources: Google search “Neal Bawa” Grocapitus.com MultifamilyU.com Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 877-74-RIDGE JWB's available Florida income property: CashFlowAndGrowth.com To learn more about eQRPs: text “GRE” to 307-213-3475 or: eQRP.co By texting “GRE” to 307-213-3475 and opting in, you will receive periodic marketing messages from eQRP Co. Message & data rates may apply. Reply “STOP” to cancel. Make passive income with apartment and other syndications: www.B2Rdirect.com Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our free, wealth-building “Don't Quit Your Daydream Letter”: www.GetRichEducation.com/Letter Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Top Properties & Providers: GREmarketplace.com Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Keith's personal Instagram: @keithweinhold

Real estate is a people business. At the end of the day, it will all boil down to your relationships. Because the space is getting more and more competitive by the day—penetrating markets, capital raising, and closing deals will only get more accessible by connecting with the right people---the people they know, and so forth. In this episode of Wealth Science Podcast, Brandon Magierowski speaks on why you shouldn't just cookie cut from books, how overlooking market research can hurt you, how they raised $500,000 for a deal in one week, and more. Outline of the episode: 1.    Getting into a cash-flowing asset is the first domino 2.    Every block is different! 3.    Why you shouldn't overlook red flags in underwriting 4.    Speak from experience, not just from books. 5.     Where are Real Focus Capital Investments pivoting to in 2022? About Brandon Magierowski: A native of Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada, Brandon came to Shreveport, Louisiana, in 2004 to join the LSU-Shreveport Pilots Baseball Program. After three years with the Pilots, Brandon graduated with a Bachelor's Degree in General Business Administration. In 2008, Brandon joined the Prairie Baseball Academy (Junior College) as an Assistant Coach before returning to the LSUS-Baseball Program in 2010 as the Graduate Assistant Coach. Magierowski's coaching position with the Pilots ended in 2011 after Brandon graduated with his Masters in Business Administration (MBA). Upon graduation in the Spring of 2013, Brandon turned his attention to hosting baseball tournaments in the deep south region to provide players a better opportunity for exposure to next-level recruiters. In 2014, Brandon aided in the creation of Diamond Dynasty (2D Sports) and was the acting CEO. Brandon currently owns 150+ units across Louisiana, Texas, and Florida and is a graduate of Multifamily University and a member of the MultifamilyU investor group. He currently resides in Shreveport, Louisiana, with his beautiful wife, Tiffany, and is a father of three boys. Catch up with Brandon Magierowski: https://realfocus.org/ (Website | Real Focus) https://realfocus.org/ (Capital Investments) https://www.flowcode.com/page/brandon-magierowski (Flowcode | Brandon Magierowski ) Connect with your host Jesse Futia on: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jesse-f-ba54b9147/ (LinkedIn | Jesse) Futia https://www.facebook.com/jesse.futia/ (Facebook) | jesse.futia https://twitter.com/FutiaJesse (Twitter) | @FutiaJesse jesse@execequityinvesting.com   Don't forget to connect with https://www.linkedin.com/company/wealth-science-podcast/ (Wealth Science on LinkedIn) Find out more about passive real estate investing by clicking http://www.execequityinvesting.com/ (here)! Interested in learning more about real estate investing? https://calendly.com/jessefutia/intro (Schedule a call with Jesse)! Want to get all the updates on the Wealth Science podcast? Click https://mailchi.mp/850d43b355bc/wealth-science (here) to join our newsletter! DISCLAIMER: On this platform, I share my thoughts, opinions, and own journey to financial freedom. I am not a CPA, attorney, or financial advisor. The content on this platform shall not be construed as tax or financial advice. It is your duty to verify all information yourself. I hope you enjoy all the free content as we continue to bring on amazing guests.

LifeBlood: We talked about real estate syndication, trends to look for over the next three years, areas where growth will occur, and areas that may slow, with Neal Bawa, the mad scientist of multifamily and CEO of Grocapitus and MultifamilyU.   Listen to learn about a new way to invest in real estate that could change everything! You can learn more about Neal at MultifamilyU.com, GroCapitus.com, Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. Thanks, as always for listening!  If you got some value and enjoyed the show, please leave us a review wherever you listen and subscribe as well.  You can learn more about us at LifeBlood.Live, Twitter, LinkedIn, Instagram, YouTube and Facebook or you'd like to be a guest on the show, contact us at contact@LifeBlood.Live.

Are you aware of the implications that rising oil prices would have on commercial real estate? Today, Neal Bawa, the CEO/Founder at Grocapitus, a commercial real estate investment company, will share with us his thoughts in regards to the current situation in Russia and the fact that countries like the US and the eurozone could consider stopping purchasing oil from Russia. Most important, we will go deeper into the possible implications of this in the industry. So, whether you are a real estate investor or not, I'm sure this episode is going to impact every person in the world!  Neal sources, negotiates, and acquires Commercial properties across the U.S., for 400+ investors. He also serves as CEO at MultifamilyU, an apartment investing education company. He speaks at events & meetups across the country and his management techniques and revenue optimization techniques for Multifamily are considered unique in the industry. Let's jump into the impact of banning Russian oil and how high oil could go! [00:01 - 11:00] Opening Segment  An overview of rising oil prices The impact and implication on the economy Neal shares his insights about the great 2022 oil shock How it's going to affect positively and negatively the real estate market in Canada and USA Check our previous interview with Neal Bawa [11:01 - 31:27]   Impact of Banning Russian Oil & How High Oil Could Go The importance of understanding the demand flexibility A 5% reduction in world supply easily leads to a 50 to 100% increase in price  Neal shares three different scenarios where real estate can be impacted due to oil prices What if the USA stop buying Russian oil A decline in the stock market  A rise in the interest rates due to immediate inflation in the economy A financial contagion [31:28 - 46:15]   Impact of Banning Russian Oil in Real Estate Consider a scenario where Russian is no longer able to sell oil There'd be a hyperinflation Neal explains the role that China and India have in buying Russian oil Neal provides scenarios of what investors could consider if there's an economic crisis  Amounts of liquidity will come into the world economy The consequences of the 11th largest economy in the world becoming insolvent [46:16 - 49:41] Closing Segment Connect to Neal Bawa on LinkedIn! Go and check out Multifamily University if you want to learn more about his thoughts on this oil shock. We will begin coaching sessions next month! If you are interested in my coaching and consulting program, please reach out to me through email at  shane@shanemelanson.com. I want to make sure to cater to those interested, so please use the word “coaching” on the body or subject line. You can also follow me on Linkedin, and Twitter. If you would like to go even deeper into the world of commercial real estate, head over to Shane Melanson, a roadmap to investing in commercial real estate! Get my book Club Syndication - How The Wealthy Invest Their Money. LEAVE A REVIEW + help someone invest in commercial real estate with confidence by sharing this episode or click here to listen to our previous episodes. Follow The Investing Podcast on all Streaming platforms. Deezer, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, or visit our YouTube Channel. Tweetable Quotes: “No one has ever said the price of oil at a country level. It's only set at a world level.” -  Neal Bawa “Who wants to worry about inflation when the world economy is unstable? I'm just going to try and stabilize the world financial system. ” - Neal Bawa “If there's a financial contagion, then I want to wait for a while because that will mean incredible amounts of liquidity will come into the world economy.” - Neal Bawa

Anna Myers serves as Vice President at Grocapitus, a commercial real estate investment company in the San Francisco Bay Area. Anna is a third-generation commercial real estate entrepreneur who applies her 25+ years of experience in technology and business to finding, analyzing, acquiring and asset managing commercial properties in key markets across the U.S. Together with her business partner Neal Bawa, they approach real estate through a data science lens to create compelling profits for 1000+ investors.As the lead underwriter for the company, Anna teaches deal analysis for MultifamilyU in quarterly Boot Camps. MultifamilyU is an apartment investing education company owned by the principal Neal Bawa. Also via MultifamilyU, Anna hosts weekly webinar events featuring top speakers in real estate. Anna is regularly interviewed on podcasts in the industry, with over 25 podcast appearances so far in 2019. Anna Myers also co-hosts two monthly Real Estate Investor Meetups in the Bay Area with over 1000   members.Related to Syndication with Grocapitus, Anna and Neal have successfully completed Equity Raises of 25 Million dollars for Multifamily Acquisitions in the last 12 months, resulting in over 1300 units purchased. They are on track to close another 1300 in the next 12 months. As the asset manager for the Grocapitus portfolio, Anna again brings the data driven approach to track and insert optimizations to the properties to help drive property performance and investor returns.Connect with Annawww.multifamilyu.comwww.grocapitus.com

Neal Bawa is the CEO and Founder of Grocapitus and MultifamilyU, Neal leads the company and is driving the syndication and acquisition of multifamily properties.• Owns and manages a real estate single-family and multifamily portfolio in 8 US States• Speaks at Multifamily events, IRA events & meetups across the country• Over 3,000 students attend his multifamily seminar series each year• Hundreds attend his Multifamily boot camps annually• Co-founder of the largest Multifamily Meetup in the U.S. (BAMF), with 4000+ membersHis past experience includes 17 years of revenue (P&L) experience as the senior-most executive in a California education company with over 350 employees and $40MM in revenue.  Neal is a backyard tomato farmer and a protein diet health nut. He believes in positivity and Karma, is passionate about cricket and about the enormous potential of self-driving electric vehicles to solve the global climate crisis.Connect with Nealwww.multifamilyu.comFacebook – Neal Bawa

Today, Neal Bawa joins the show to talk about where the real estate industry is heading and how the Covid crisis can provide future real estate opportunities. Keep tuning in to find out more real estate market trends that will transform your investing outlook.Key Takeaways To Listen ForEffects of market rent growth research on real estate investingHow hybrid work models provide multiple opportunities for real estate3 major reasons why people are moving to distant suburbsThe disruptive market trends of the 3 popular asset classesBuild-to-rent: What it is and its difference from Class A, B, and C propertiesTips to ensure the effectiveness of your investment strategyResources Mentioned In This EpisodeFree Apartment Syndication Due Diligence Checklist for Passive InvestorMultifamily University WebinarsAbout Neal Bawa Neal Bawa is a technologist who is universally known in the real estate circles as the Mad Scientist of Multifamily. In addition to being the most in-demand speaker in commercial real estate, he is also a data guru, a process freak, and an outsourcing expert.He is the CEO/Founder at Grocapitus, a commercial real estate investment company, and the CEO at MultifamilyU, an apartment investing education company. Over 5,000 students attend his multifamily seminars each year and hundreds attend his Magic of Multifamily BootCamps.I can't wait to dive into our interview today and learn about his outlook in real estate and what he is seeing happening in the market.Connect with NealWebsite: Multifamily UniversityTo Connect With UsPlease visit our website: www.bonavestcapital.com and please click here, to leave a rating and review!SponsorThinking About Creating and Growing Your Own Podcast But Not Sure Where To Start?Visit GrowYourShow.com and Schedule a call with Adam A. Adams

Our special guest for today is the “Mad Scientist of Multifamily,” Neal Bawa. Neal is Chief Executive Officer (CEO) and Founder at Grocapitus, a commercial real estate investment company. Neal sources, negotiates and acquires Commercial properties across the U.S., for nearly 500 investors. Current portfolio over 2000 units, projected to be at 3000 units in 12 months.Neal also serves as CEO at MultifamilyU, an apartment investing education company. He speaks at events & meetups across the country. Nearly 5,000 students attend his multifamily webinar series each year and hundreds attend his Magic of Multifamily bootcamps. Neal is the co-founder of the MultifamilyU Investing Meetup network, a group of investors that has over 4,000 members.In 2019, Neal's team is sourcing hundreds of Opportunity Zone projects in the U.S., and filtering them by OZ quality to bring them to our investors.Listen to Neal and learn from the Mad Scientist of Multifamily![00:01 - 06:10] Opening SegmentLet's get to know Neal BawaNeal talks about his journey to multifamily investing[06:11 - 16:14] The “Super Value Add”Neal reveals his secrets in looking for dealsWhy no one does a “super value add”Here's how to leverage a class that Neal has invented[16:15 - 26:00] Correlation Between Interest Rates and Cap RatesDon't miss Neal's outlook in the real estate space!Liquidity and money are not the same thingsHere's an important information that you learn now[26:01 - 36:15] Built to Rent and MultifamilyThe 3 different sources that inject money into real estateWhy many people love office investmentsNeal weighs in between “built to rent” and multifamily[36:16- 44:11] Exit Strategy for Real EstateWhy Neal remains bullish on real estate despite the recent trendsNeal is positioning himself for an exit in real estateHere's whyWhen to anticipate the downturn in real estate[44:12 - 47:17] Closing SegmentConnect with NealLinks belowFinal words from Neal and me  Tweetable Quotes: “[Built to rent] is by far the largest investment. No other investment landscape has seen anything like this.” - Neal Bawa“We always tell people when it comes to investing, take it slow, make sure that the people you're investing with...your philosophy agrees with theirs.” - Neal BawaResources mentioned:Ivy ZelmanMultifamily University------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Follow Neal on LinkedIn or check out Grocapitus Investments to apply advanced data-driven strategies that generate dependable passive income investing in tax-advantaged commercial real estate!Guest email: neal@grocapitus.com Connect with me:https://www.5tcre.com/FacebookLinkedInInstagramWatch 5T CRE on YouTubeLeave us a review and receive your free ebookEmail us --> abel@5tcre.comSupport the show (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/5Talents)

Neal Bawa is a technologist who is universally known in the real estate circles as the Mad Scientist of Multifamily. Besides being one of the most in-demand speakers in commercial real estate, Neal is a data guru, a process freak, and an outsourcing expert. Neal treats his $508 million-dollar portfolio as an ongoing experiment in efficiency and optimization. The Mad Scientist lives by two mantras. His first mantra is that We can only manage what we can measure. His second mantra is that Data beats gut feel by a million miles. These mantras and a dozen other disruptive beliefs drive profit for his 440+ investors. Neal serves CEO / Founder at Grocapitus, an iconic, data-driven commercial real estate investment company. Grocapitus' 28 person team acquires and builds multifamily & commercial properties across the U.S. With more than 440 active investors and over 2,000 reviewing our projects, the Grocapitus portfolio currently spans across 10 states with 22 projects (1 sold) and 3,300 units/beds. The powerful Grocapitus brand has a cult-like following of data driven investors. The result - Completed equity raises of $146 million* for Multifamily, Mixed-Use and Industrial acquisitions in the last 18 months, over 3,000 units purchased. Grocapitus is on track to close another 1,500 units in the next 12 months. Neal loves public speaking and is an energetic and humorous speaker. He also serves as CEO at MultifamilyU, an apartment investing education company. He is a top-rated, in demand presenter at conferences and events across the country. Over 5,000 students attend his multifamily seminar series each year and hundreds attend his Magic of Multifamily Boot Camps. Tens of thousands listen to his podcast appearances and he has been featured in over 50 top rated podcasts and radio shows. Neal's asset management and revenue optimization techniques for multifamily are considered unique in the industry. In this episode Neal talks about why he's not doing too much value add investing right now and why he's focusing more on a ground up investing strategy. Neal shares very interesting investing models that other investors haven't talked much about. Connect with Neal: www.neilbawa.com Partner with us: www.pac3capital.com Follow the show on Instagram: @themultifamilytakeoff

Today, we're talking to Brandon Magierowski, CEO, Entrepreneur, Real Estate Investor, General Partner, and Podcast Host. Brandon is an active partner in Real Focus Capital Investments, the co-host of the Gorilla State Podcast, and currently owns several multifamily properties in Louisiana. He is a graduate of Multifamily University, a member of MultifamilyU investor group, and leads the Multifamily Mastermind 318 meetup group in North Louisiana. In this episode, we discuss why Brandon gave up his dream of being a college baseball coach in favor of building generational wealth through multifamily real estate and how partnering with experienced KPs and other groups has helped him take down larger deals. We also touch on the importance of taking the time to build your brand and build relationships, getting content out, and the power of meditation for improving your mindset, as well as staying competitive and being willing to do what others aren't in order to achieve success. Tune in today to learn about all this and more!Key Points From This Episode:An introduction to Brandon Magierowski and how he got into real estate.What influence Neal Bawa, the Mad Scientist of Multifamily, had on the name of Brandon's company, Real Focus Capital.Why he gave up his dream to be a baseball coach in favor of building generational wealth.What Brandon learned about syndication from the Neal Bawa conference he attended.The importance of taking the time to build your brand, build relationships, and build trust.Syndication versus joint ventures; why Brandon and his partner chose a JV structure.Learn about their first deal and how they prioritized passive income and cashflow.How they closed an off market hotel deal in South Louisiana; tell people what you're doing!Partnering with experienced KPs and other groups to take down larger deals.How Real Focus Capital is aiming to improve efficiencies using Asana, Slack, and VAs.The importance of getting content out, appearing on podcasts, and even starting your own!Brandon shares his long-term vision for Real Focus Capital and how their team will evolve.Learn about Brandon's podcast, Gorilla State Investing; the ground-pounding truth about what it takes to be successful in real estate.Hear about Brandon's morning routine; how meditation has improved his mindset.What books Brandon recommends, including Clockwork and Rich Kid Smart Kid.Why he attributes his success to his athletic background and competing against himself.Links Mentioned in Today's Episode:Brandon Magierowski on LinkedInBrandon Magierowski on InstagramBrandon Magierowski EmailReal Focus Capital InvestmentsGorilla State Investing PodcastReal Estate Podcasts Hosts and Guests Facebook GroupNeal BawaAsanaSlackUpworkThe Miracle MorningClockworkRich Kid Smart KidActive Duty Passive Income

Join Mike Cavaggioni and Brandon Magierowski on the 55th episode of the Average Joe Finances Podcast to discuss the power of networking and what to keep in mind when partnering up for joint ventures. Brandon is a real estate investor, entrepreneur, podcast host, and co-founder of Real Focus Capital. There, he helps fellow and aspiring investors generate passive income through multifamily and commercial property investments. After all, Brandon believes that nothing great is ever achieved by ourselves and that we need to surround ourselves with great people to achieve great things. Today, he shares his journey, from working in the baseball industry to getting into multifamily. In this episode, you'll learn:·  Why building the right team is essential when starting a venture in real estate·  How leveraging your team's skills can help you achieve your goals and grow as entrepreneurs·  The value of developing relationships with brokers from the area of your target market·  What to look out for when scoping out deals at sub-markets of specific areas·  The importance of time commitment when getting into real estate as W2 employees·  And much more!About Brandon Magierowski:A native of Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada, Brandon Magierowski came to Shreveport, Louisiana, in 2004 to join the LSU-Shreveport Pilots Baseball Program. After three years with the Pilots, Brandon graduated with a Bachelor's Degree in General Business Administration. In 2008, Brandon joined the Prairie Baseball Academy (Junior College) as an Assistant Coach before returning to the LSUS-Baseball Program in 2010 as the Graduate Assistant Coach. Magierowski's coaching position with the Pilots ended in 2011 after Brandon graduated with his Masters in Business Administration (MBA).Upon graduation in the Spring of 2013, Brandon turned his attention to hosting baseball tournaments in the deep south region to provide players a better opportunity for exposure to next-level recruiters. In 2014, Brandon helped create Diamond Dynasty (2D Sports) and currently serves as its acting CEO. Since its inception, the company has grown 25% year after year and hosts over 100 events. Nowadays, Brandon is an active partner in Real Focus Capital Investments and a co-host of the Gorilla State Podcast. He is also a graduate of Multifamily University, a member of the MultifamilyU investor group, and leads the MultiFamily Mastermind 318 meetup group in North Louisiana. Brandon currently owns several multi-family properties in Louisiana, residing in Shreveport with his wife and three sons. Find Brandon Magierowski on: Website: realfocus.org/Facebook: facebook.com/brandon.magierowski Instagram: www.instagram.com/bmags1984Flow Code: flow.page/brandon-magierowskiCheck out Average Joe Finances:Our social media links can be found here: flow.page/avgjoefinances

Data collection and analysis allow businesses to examine and organize data to better serve investors. In today's episode, Brandon Magierowski talks about data-driven real estate and why building trust with investors is important. Key takeaways to listen for Balancing time with w2 job and real estate investing Raising capital and building trust with investors Underwriting deals Utilizing data to target markets Importance of market research Resources mentioned in this episode Why and How to Invest in Apartments - Real Focus Capital About Brandon Magierowski Brandon Magierowski is a native of Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada. Brandon graduated with a Bachelor's Degree in General Business Administration. In 2014, Brandon aided in the creation of Diamond Dynasty (2D Sports) and is the acting CEO. Brandon is an active partner in Real Focus Capital Investments, a co-host of the Gorilla State Podcast and currently owns several multi-family properties in Louisiana. Brandon currently owns multiple rental units in Louisiana and is a graduate of Multifamily University and a member of MultifamilyU investor group. He currently resides in Shreveport, Louisiana with his beautiful wife, Tiffany, and is a father of three boys. Connect with Brandon Email: brandon@realfocus.org Website: https://realfocus.org/ Podcast: Gorilla State Investing Podcast Facebook: Brandon Magierowski LinkedIn: Brandon Magierowski   Connect with Us To learn more about partnering with us, visit our website at https://javierhinojo.com/ and www.allstatescapitalgroup.com, or send an email to admin@allstateseg.com.  Sign up to get our Free Apartment Due Diligence Checklist Template and Multifamily Calculator by visiting https://javierhinojo.com/free-tools/. To join Javier's Mastermind, go to https://javierhinojo.com/mastermind/ and to apply to his BDB Mastermind, see https://javierhinojo.com/mastermind/#apply_form and answer the form. Follow Me on Social Media Facebook: Javier A Hinojo Jr. Facebook Group: Billion Dollar Multifamily and Commercial Real Estate YouTube Channel: Javier Hinojo Instagram: @javierhinojojr TikTok: @javierhinojojr Twitter: @JavierHinojoJr

Join JD and Melissa with their guest, Brandon Magierowski, on the show today as they talk about moving the needle. As a real estate investor, it's crucial to continue growing by the second. Sometimes, it's not easy to know if the needle is actually moving. How do you ensure that you're on the right track? Stay tuned!   Here's what to expect on the podcast: From collegiate baseball coaching to financial freedom. Why you might not want to invest in Shreveport, Louisiana. Do your research! The value of knowing when you should get into a deal. Not only would it work for you, but it works for your investors! The importance of being honest with your investors, even if things aren't going great. Believe in your deal If you don't have investors yet, start connecting with them today! Time blocking and productivity. And much more!   About Brandon Magierowski: A native of Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada, Brandon came to Shreveport, Louisiana in 2004 to join the LSU-Shreveport Pilots Baseball Program. After three years with the Pilots, Brandon graduated with a Bachelor's Degree in General Business Administration.   In 2008, Brandon joined the Prairie Baseball Academy (Junior College) as an Assistant Coach before returning to the LSUS-Baseball Program in 2010 as the Graduate Assistant Coach. Magierowski's coaching position with the Pilots ended in 2011 after Brandon graduated with his Masters in Business Administration (MBA).   Upon graduation in the Spring of 2013, Brandon turned his attention to hosting baseball tournaments in the deep south region to provide players a better opportunity for exposure to next level recruiters. In 2014, Brandon aided in the creation Diamond Dynasty (2D Sports) and is the acting CEO.   Brandon currently owns multiple rental units in Louisiana, and is a graduate of Multifamily University and a member of MultifamilyU investor group.   He currently resides in Shreveport, Louisiana with his beautiful wife, Tiffany, and is a father of three boys.   Connect with Brandon! Website: https://realfocus.org/ and https://2dsports.org Podcast: https://anchor.fm/ramsey-blankenship Email: brandon@realfocus.org   Connect with JD, Annabel, and Melissa! Website: https://therealestatejam.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/therealestatejam/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealestatejam/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCa_CWAV1OvH81yp6fITB4lg Shorefront Investments: https://shorefront-investments.com/ Email: therealestatejam@gmail.com    

Neal Bawa is a technologist who is universally known in real estate circles as the Mad Scientist of Multifamily. Besides being one of the most in-demand speakers in commercial real estate, Neal is a data guru, a process freak, and an outsourcing expert. Neal treats his $250+ million-dollar multifamily portfolio as an ongoing experiment in efficiency and optimization. Neal serves as CEO / Founder at Grocapitus, an iconic, data-driven commercial real estate investment company. Grocapitus' 28 person team acquires and builds multifamily & commercial properties across the U.S. With more than 300 active investors and over 2,000 reviewing their projects, the Grocapitus portfolio currently spans across 7 states with 12 projects and 2,000+ units/beds.  He also serves as CEO at MultifamilyU, an apartment investing education company. Neal loves public speaking and is an energetic and humorous speaker.  He is a top-rated, in demand presenter at conferences and events across the country. Neal's asset management and revenue optimization techniques for multifamily are considered unique in the industry.   [00:01 - 07:05] Opening Segment Neal introduces climate change and its effect on real estate “People don't even know where to start.”    [07:06 - 18:28] The Most Important Coming Change in Real Estate Nobody is Talking About Real Estate is the No. 1 Victim of Climate Change  Why You Should Worry About Climate Change  Climate Change is Bullshit and its Impact Four Twenty SevenLooking in the future of real estate and climate change  Neal compares the speed of change in COVID-19 and climate changeNo one is paying attention! Six Steps Model of Property Risks   [18:29 - 37:44] Taking Action and Moving Forward with Climate Change Climate Change Denial Podcast Today's data points to the future Extrapolating to the FutureCompanies are taking actions on climate change Climate change and the reality of real estate Everybody is making a move, insurance companies included Neal talks about city downgrades Climate change is bigger than the coronavirus   [37:45 - 52:15] Closing Segment Final words Quick break for our sponsors Connect with my guest. See the links below.   Tweetable Quotes: “No other industry in the world is going to be impacted by climate change as much as real estate.” - Neal Bawa “Everyone who has a trillion bucks cares.” - Neal Bawa “Climate change may not be real but those property tax increases are real.” -Neal Bawa  “What you think about climate change doesn't matter.  The people who matter already have decided that  climate change is real.” - Neal Bawa ------------ Resources Mentioned: Four Twenty Seven   Connect with Neal through LinkedIn and his website: https://multifamilyu.com/about/  LEAVE A REVIEW + help someone who wants to explode their business growth by sharing this episode or click here to listen to our previous episodes                     

Neal Bawa Climate Change – Real or Not, the Financial Markets Believe and are Reponsding Today Dr. Allen chats with Neal Bawa, CEO/ Founder at Grocapitus and an iconic, data-driven commercial real estate investment company. Grocapitus' 28 person team acquires and builds multifamily & commercial properties across the U.S. With more than 300 active investors and over 2,000 reviewing our projects, the Grocapitus portfolio currently spans across 7 states with 12 projects and 2,000+ units/beds. He also serves as CEO at MultifamilyU, an apartment investing Education Company. Neal Bawa is a technologist who is universally known in the real estate circles as the Mad Scientist of Multifamily. Besides being one of the most in-demand speakers in commercial real estate, Neal is a data guru, a process freak, and an outsourcing expert. Neal treats his $250+ million-dollar multifamily portfolio as an ongoing experiment in efficiency and optimization. In today's chat, listen to Neal's, successful and data driven real estate journey. Tens of thousands listen to his podcast appearances and he has been featured in over 50 top rated podcasts and radio shows.  Neal's asset management and revenue optimization techniques for multifamily are considered unique in the industry. 3 Key Points from the episode: Climate Change is very much affecting the real estate industry. Understand how climate change risk is impacting the real estate. Do your research on impact of climate change in on your real estate investments. Connect with Neal: neal@grocapitus.com (408) 290-4136 http://www.neilbawa.com/    www.Grocapitus.com    www.MultifamilyU.com  

Join Mike Cavaggioni and Ramsey Blankenship on the 47th episode of the Average Joe Finances Podcast as they discuss the scalability of multi-family and the signs of a thriving real estate market. Ramsey Blankenship is a Navy Explosive Ordinance Technician, diving instructor, and one of the founders of Real Focus Capital. Here, they acquire and manage value-add, commercial multi-family properties in the Southeast. The company aims to provide high-yield risk-adjusted returns and generate passive income for its investors. Today, Ramsey shares his journey, from getting into real estate through house-hacking to investing in multi-family properties. In this episode, you'll learn: ● “How I can afford this?” mentality and how to live the life you want while investing in anything, real estate, stock market, etc. ● The value of “putting yourself out there” and how the best partnerships are outside your comfort zone. ● The five market vital signs and how understanding macrostatistics can tell you what markets to invest in. ● What goes into transitioning from residential to commercial real estate and the economy of scale. ● The difference between investing in real estate versus other assets and the different cash flow means it provides. ● And much more! About Ramsey Blankenship: From Southwest Louisiana, Ramsey Blankenship joined the US Navy shortly after graduating high school. He is currently a Master Chief Petty Officer Explosive Ordinance Disposal (EOD) Technician in the US Navy Special Operations. Ramsey understands the importance of paying attention to detail while working under pressure as a free-fall parachutist and Navy diver. Ramsey is also an experienced investor specializing in converting distressed properties into income-producing assets. He currently owns multiple rental units across three states, is a graduate of Multifamily University, and is a member of the MultifamilyU investor group. Mr. Blankenship now lives in San Diego, California, is a father of two, and is married to his beautiful wife, Hope. Find Ramsey Blankenship on: Website: https://realfocus.org LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ramsey-blankenship-35a56137 Check out Average Joe Finances: Our social media links are all on our Flow Page: https://flow.page/avgjoefinances

Join Blake Dailey, the Multifamily Journey Podcast host, with his guests Joey Biccum and Ramsey Blankenship as they talk about how to get the best returns by realizing wealth generators and reading market vital signs. Joey is a navy diving officer and commissioned engineer, while Ramsey is a navy technician and diving instructor. With varying experiences in real estate, both specialize in converting properties into income-producing assets. Hence, Ramsey and Joey, along with Brandon Magierowski, founded Real Focus, acquiring and managing value-add, commercial multi-family properties. The company aims to provide high-yield risk-adjusted returns and generate passive income for its investors. Now, if you want to get the most out of your investments, listen in and enjoy the episode! In this episode, you'll learn: ● How Ramsey and Joey got into real estate through house hacking and rental properties. ● Not every win is defined by dollar signs but in lessons learned based on their initial multifamily experience. ● Investing in the real estate business versus the stock market, and the value of generational wealth. ● What strategies to go for to realize all five wealth generators, from appreciation to principal pay down. ● The five market vital signs and how understanding macrostatistics can give you the best returns possible. ● And much more! About Joey Biccum and Ramsey Blankenship: Originally from New York State, Joey Biccum joined the United States Navy after high school. Joey was promoted to the rank of Chief Petty Officer before applying for the Limited Duty Officer (LDO) program and earning a commission into the Civil Engineer Corps (CEC). He is currently serving as the Division Officer at the Naval Diving and Salvage Training Center for the elite Seabee Divers of the Underwater Construction Teams. Joey is an experienced real estate investor that specializes in converting distressed properties into income-producing assets. He is an active and contributing member of the Active Duty Passive Income (ADPI) team and a graduate of the ADPI Multi-Family course and mastermind. Mr. Biccum currently resides in Florida and is married to his high school sweetheart Nicole and is a father of two. Meanwhile, from Southwest Louisiana, Ramsey Blankenship joined the US Navy shortly after graduating high school. He is currently a Master Chief Petty Officer Explosive Ordinance Disposal (EOD) Technician in the US Navy Special Operations. As a free-fall parachutist and Navy diver, Ramsey understands the importance of paying attention to detail while working under pressure. Ramsey is also an experienced investor specializing in converting distressed properties into income-producing assets. He currently owns multiple rental units across three states, is a graduate of Multifamily University, and is a member of the MultifamilyU investor group. Mr. Blankenship now lives in San Diego, CA, is married to his beautiful wife Hope, and is a father of two. You can find Joey Biccum and Ramsey Blankenship on: Real Focus Website City-Data Website Texas A&M University Real Estate Connect with Blake Dailey and the Multifamily Journey on: LinkedIn | Facebook Account | Facebook Page | Instagram | Youtube --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/multifamilyjourney/support

On this episode of Money Savage REI, we talked about using technology and data to make good real estate investing decisions, how to evaluate markets, the magic of four-plexes, and how to make pivots with Neal Bawa, CEO of Grocapitus and MultiFamilyU.  Listen to learn why data beats gut instinct every day of the week!   For the Difference Making Tip, scan ahead to 19:37! You can learn more about Neal at GroCapitus.com, Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. Learn more about Money Alignment Academy and bringing Financial Wellness to your organization.   We’re honored to have been named one of the top podcasts from investing! George is honored to be included on Investopedia's list of the Top 100 Financial Advisors for 2020! Have George speak to your organization. You can learn more about the show at GeorgeGrombacher.com, Twitter, LinkedIn, Instagram and Facebook or contact George at Contact@GeorgeGrombacher.com.  Check out Money Alignment Academy as well!

Neal Bawa is CEO / Founder at Grocapitus, a commercial real estate investment company. Neal sources, negotiates and acquires Commercial properties across the U.S., for nearly 500 investors. Current portfolio is over 2000 units, projected to be at 3000 units in 12 months. Neal also serves as CEO at MultifamilyU, an apartment investing education company. He speaks at events & meetups across the country. Nearly 5,000 students attend his multifamily webinar series each year and hundreds attend his Magic of Multifamily boot camps. Neal is the co-founder of the Multifamily Investing Meetup network, a group of investors that has over 4000 members. In this episode we talked about: Neal`s background in real estate and how he got into this industry What cities make the most amount of money in real estate? An eye-opening experience of building six campuses from scratch How did he get 50 thousand people's attention? Failures while dealing with multifamily housing Cashing out- when is the best time? Generational wealth Neal’s favourite real estate book

Neal Bawa is a technologist who is universally known in the real estate circles as the Mad Scientist of Multifamily. Besides being one of the most in-demand speakers in commercial real estate, he is a data guru, a process freak, and an outsourcing expert. Neal treats his $250+ million-dollar multifamily portfolio as an ongoing experiment in efficiency and optimization. The Mad Scientist lives by two mantras. His first mantra is that we can only manage what we can measure. His second mantra is that Data beats gut feel by a million miles. Neal serves as the CEO  at Grocapitus, a data-driven commercial real estate investment company, and  MultifamilyU, an apartment investing education company. He is a top-rated, in-demand presenter at conferences across the country and been featured in over 50 top-rated podcasts and radio shows.Contact Info:https://grocapitus.comAs a child Neal Bawa loved numbers and solved complex math problems in his head.  When he became Chief Operations Officer of the company that he was working for, he was extremely math and data-driven. He learned that the path of data was always the right path. It's something that he is schooled in, has a degree in that area,  a computer science degree.When he started in the Real estate business he used the same passion for numbers in different scenarios, and basically tried to make optimizations to the bottom line or net profit.He believes that numbers prove people wrong all the time, especially very experienced people that start going by their gut feel, and that's when they go wrong.He developed a system that allowed people to figure out the best cities and neighborhoods in the United States, It's called Real focus and is on Udemy- this system kind of got him notoriety and he wasn't a real estate guy then.  But he was having fun with numbers and people started inviting him to conferences and meetups and online. And it sort of just snowballed and before he knew it -he had this enormous database.Neal mentioned he loves teaching. He comes from a family of educators and did the same with Real estate, where he started educating others He says that to him the path to becoming successful goes towards one moving towards financial independence, whether you do that through stocks or coin, or real estate doesn't really matter. He thinks what is important is that every person who wants lasting happiness needs to start in some tiny way towards financial independence.He also thinks that most people don't understand happiness lies in financial freedom and it doesn't matter if you make half a million dollars as a technologist or a million dollars as a doctor, you are not independent, you don't have freedom.  It's still a gold cage. A million-dollar doctor and a $25,000 a year receptionist are in the same exact cage. He thinks that the key to freedom, the key to growth is understanding that there's no difference in the cage.

When we talk about multifamily investing, more often than not we're talking about value-add investing. Today's guest not only does value-add, but she's also crushing it in new construction. Anna Myers of Grocapitus joins us to discuss how they select their markets, and ways in which the new construction business plan differs from the value-add.  Anna serves as Vice President at Grocapitus, a commercial real estate investment company based in the San Francisco Bay Area. Anna holds a B.A. degree with highest honors from UC Berkeley, and an MBA degree from San Francisco State with an associated MS in Information Systems. Anna is also a third-generation commercial real estate entrepreneur who applies her 25+ years of experience in technology and business to finding, analyzing, acquiring and asset managing commercial properties in key markets across the U.S. Together with her business partner, Neal Bawa, they approach real estate through a data science lens to create compelling profits for 400+ investors. As the lead underwriter for the company, Anna teaches deal analysis for MultifamilyU in quarterly Boot Camps. MultifamilyU is an apartment investing education company owned by the principal, Neal Bawa. Also via MultifamilyU, Anna hosts weekly webinar events featuring top speakers in real estate. As the asset manager for the Grocapitus portfolio, Anna brings a data-driven approach to track and insert optimizations to the properties to help drive property performance and investor returns. Anna regularly speaks on podcasts, webinars and at conferences covering topics including Asset Management, Deal Analysis, Real Estate Trends, Opportunity Zones, How to 1031 into a Multifamily Syndication, and much more. Related to Syndication with Grocapitus, Anna and Neal have successfully completed equity raises of $60 million for Multifamily, Mixed-Use and Self-Storage Acquisitions in the last 18 months, resulting in over 2,300 units purchased. Grocapitus is on track to close another 1,500 in the next 12 months.

Join JD on the show today with Ramsey Blankenship as they talk about his rise from budget envelopes to a 22-unit portfolio! Ramsey is the CEO of Real Focus, a real estate investor, and an active-duty Navy Seaman. He talks about his story of getting into the business, the systems he has in place to find deals, and the resources he's used to getting to where he is now. Stay tuned!   In this episode, you'll learn: The feeling of realizing that you can earn $40,000 just by living in a house. Discovering the house hacking potential in Bay County. Facing the reality that retiring from the Navy is just half of the journey. Different ways to make money out of the things that you own. Freeing up your time by getting the right people to do the job. The secret technique to get deals at lowball offers. The hidden potential in Shreveport in Panama City.  And more!   -   About Ramsey Blankenship:   Owner of 22 rental units across three states. Graduate of Multifamily University and member of MultifamilyU investor group. Experienced investor specializing in converting distressed residential properties into income producing assets. U.S Navy Explosive Ordnance Disposal Technician – Combat Veteran. Project Lead / Investor.   -   You can find Ramsey Blankenship on…. Website: http://realfocus.org/ Email: ramsey@realfocus.org LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ramsey-blankenship-35a56137 Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/ramsey.blankenship    ---   Connect with The Real Estate Jam! Website: https://www.shorefrontrestorations.com Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/ShorefrontRestorations Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shorefrontrestorations/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCa_CWAV1OvH81yp6fITB4lg Email: jd@shorefrontrestorations.com or info@shorefrontrestorations.com 

Anna Myers is an absolute rockstar in the multi-family space. Anna Myers serves as Vice President at Grocapitus, a commercial real estate investment company in the San Francisco Bay Area. Anna is a third-generation commercial real estate entrepreneur who applies her 25+ years of experience in technology and business to finding, analyzing, acquiring and asset managing commercial properties in key markets across the U.S. Together with her business partner Neal Bawa, they approach real estate through a data science lens to create compelling profits for 1000+ investors.As the lead underwriter for the company, Anna teaches deal analysis for MultifamilyU in quarterly Boot Camps. MultifamilyU is an apartment investing education company owned by the principal Neal Bawa. Also via MultifamilyU, Anna hosts weekly webinar events featuring top speakers in real estate. Anna is regularly interviewed on podcasts in the industry, with over 25 podcast appearances so far in 2019. Anna Myers also co-hosts two monthly Real Estate Investor Meetups in the Bay Area with over 1000   members.Related to Syndication with Grocapitus, Anna and Neal have successfully completed Equity Raises of $53 Million dollars for Multifamily Acquisitions in the last 12 months, resulting in over 1800 units purchased. They are on track to close another 800 in the next 12 months. As the asset manager for the Grocapitus portfolio, Anna again brings the data driven approach to track and insert optimizations to the properties to help drive property performance and investor returns.

Anna Myers serves as the vice-president of Grocapitus, a commercial real estate investment company located in the San Francisco Bay Area. She has an extensive background as a programmer and a systems architect in the tech industry but now she's migrated full time into the commercial real estate industry. Anna specialises in applying her technology skills to evaluate multi-family deals. She also teaches underwriting for MultifamilyU, an education platform for those who want to invest in multi-families. Anna and Neal Bawa partnered to purchase 500 plus units of apartment projects in 2018. Now they have raised over $12 million in the last 9 months and it has resulted in over 750 units purchased. If you can use some guidance on evaluating deals and markets alongside the right tools to employ, you can't miss today's episode!

Neal Bawa is strategic and analytical investor who brings decades of experience operating in Tech to the Multifamily Game. After a successful company exit in 2015, he quickly applied his skills to source, negotiate and acquire commercial properties across the U.S., for 300+ investors. With a current portfolio over 1800 units/beds he is projected to be at 3000 in 12 months -and his business just keeps growing. Neal is driven to build a better life every day, and strives to keep a forward-moving mindset in the pursuit of happiness. BIG TAKE-AWAYS: Adversity breeds drive. Thrive on those challenges! Happiness is the reason for everything, not money Set ambitious goals, but be conservative in your moves to get there There is no such thing as a single “Real Estate Cycle” RECOMMENDED BOOKS: The 4 Hour Work Week - Tim Ferris (https://fourhourworkweek.com/ ) Traction - Gino Wickman (https://www.amazon.com/Traction-Get-Grip-Your-Business/dp/1936661837/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3IIJ4TMRZKHSN&keywords=traction+book&qid=1563299042&s=gateway&sprefix=traction%2Caps%2C166&sr=8-1) **LINKS: ** https://www.deptofnumbers.com/employment/metros/ https://Multifamilyu.com https://www.facebook.com/navraj.bawa

Neal Bawa is CEO / Founder at Grocapitus, a commercial real estate investment company. Neal sources, negotiates and acquires Commercial properties across the U.S., for 200+ investors. Current portfolio over 1000 units, projected to be at 2000 in 12 months. Neal also serves as CEO at MultifamilyU, an apartment investing education company. He speaks at events & meetups across the country. Nearly 2,000 students attend his multifamily seminar series each year and hundreds attend his Magic of Multifamily boot camps. Neal is the co-founder of the largest Multifamily Investing Meetup network in the U.S. (BAMF), a group of investors that has over 3000 members. In this episode, Jack Bosch chats to Neal about data and how to use analytics and demographics to maximize profits in Multi Family real estate. You'll find out the most important metrics you need to look at when evaluating a property and how, by taking a broad view of the market, you can radically increase the chances of your ventures being successful.

Transitioning from single family investing to apartment building investing is something many investors want to do. And we are so excited to sit down and talk to Anna Myers on today's show, where we talk about this transition and much more! Anna currently serves as Vice President at Grocapitus, a commercial real estate investment company in the San Francisco Bay Area. Anna is a modern entrepreneur who applies her 20+ years of experience in technology and business to the finding, analyzing and acquiring of Commercial properties in key markets across the U.S. Together with her business partner Neal Bawa, they approach real estate as data scientists to create compelling profits for 300+ investors. Anna has participated with Neal Bawa and Grocapitus in Equity Raises of 8.5 Million dollars for Multifamily Acquisitions in 2018. As the lead underwriter for the company, Anna also teaches deal analysis for MultifamilyU both monthly via webinars as well as quarterly in MultifamilyU Boot Camps. MultifamilyU is an apartment investing education company owned by the principal Neal Bawa. Anna Myers also co-hosts two Real Estate Investor Meetups in the Bay Area with over 800 members that she presents at regularly on multifamily topics. In addition, she is an AirBnB Superhost in two markets in the US. Anna has such an amazing story. She was a single parent and teenage mother which made her get focused real fast. She now has 6 grown daughters (blended family) and 10 grandkids. They are her "why" for real estate. On today's episode, we discuss a ton with Anna, including: Transitioning from Single-family to Apartment building investing Tips to vet potential partners How to analyze a market for apartment building investing How to assess if a neighborhood is ideal for investing How you can improve your underwriting skills Importance of self-awareness with balancing your life Reach out to Anna: Email – anna@multifamilyu.com Website - https://multifamilyu.com/ Books/Resources: Raising Private Money by Matt Faircloth The Best Syndication Book Ever by Joe Fairless Becoming by Michelle Obama InvestHER Community Join us on our mission to support and empower as many women as we can to live a financially free and balanced life. We invite you to join the InvestHER Community Facebook group along with other new and experienced women real estate investors! https://www.facebook.com/groups/Investhercommunity And learn about all the InvestHER Meetups across the country: https://www.meetup.com/pro/the-real-estate-investher Follow us on: Facebook: @therealestateinvesther Instagram: @therealestateinvesther Please leave a comment below! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jason Hartman brings this episode to you from China, where he has seen the impact of the rising middle class. While it may seem to be a world away, the growth in construction in China is impacting the cost of construction here in the United States as well. Then Jason talks with Anna Myers, Vice President of Grocapitus, about how to analyze deals, specifically for multifamily. Anna's group is all about finding the right deals in the right market, and she talks with Jason about which markets are looking good and which are past their peak, along with why the demographics for real estate investors is still incredibly bullish. Key Takeaways: [3:28] The Chinese surveillance state is rampant and the country seems very wary of terrorism [7:04] The rising middle class in China has led to a large amount of higher end stores [10:31] All buildings are made from the same materials, so when there's a building boom in China it impacts builders everywhere Anna Myers Interview: [13:08] What is Anna's definition of "data driven real estate investing"? [18:23] How can you know when the supply of starts is going to meet the demand for jobs? [21:51] Things you need to be looking for at the neighborhood level of your market [27:36] Anna's team is looking at approximately 80 markets a quarter [31:28] What kind of properties does Anna have in her portfolio? [33:47] The stigma of renting is gone as Millennials and Baby Boomers are now renting Website: www.JasonHartman.com/Properties www.Grocapitus.com www.MultiFamilyU.com

Jason Hartman talks with Anna Myers, Vice President of Grocapitus, about how to analyze deals, specifically for multifamily. Anna's group is all about finding the right deals in the right market, and she talks with Jason about which markets are looking good and which are past their peak, along with why the demographics for real estate investors is still incredibly bullish. Key Takeaways: [1:20] What is Anna's definition of "data driven real estate investing"? [6:35] How can you know when the supply of starts is going to meet the demand for jobs? [10:03] Things you need to be looking for at the neighborhood level of your market [15:48] Anna's team is looking at approximately 80 markets a quarter [19:40] What kind of properties does Anna have in her portfolio? [21:49] The stigma of renting is gone as Millennials and Baby Boomers are now renting Website: www.Grocapitus.com www.MultiFamilyU.com

Neal Bawa is the Founder of Grocapitus, a real estate investment company, and CEO of MultifamilyU, an apartment investing education company. He brings a new perspective to Real Estate Investing and Housing Trends using data and business intelligence. In this episode, we discuss his unique analyzing strategies, some of the resources he uses for understanding markets, the local economy, trends he follows to make his buying decisions, and where you should buy next!