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Neal Bawa - Grocapitus and MultifamilyU On Using the Right Tools to Make Good Decisions: "I said, I'm going to mine as much data as possible and try to get insights from that data." Many investors use real estate investing as an investment vehicle in their portfolio.  Most of those investors are looking at their local real estate market and trying to find deals that can pump out the returns they want. But the world is smaller now, and real estate investing in your backyard is no longer necessary.  You can invest hundreds of miles away and possibly turn over a stronger margin.  The way to find the best place to invest, starts with gathering data and comparing places. Neal Bawa, known widely as the "mad scientist of multifamily," is the engineer turned real estate investor that combines his knowledge of real estate, data science, and artificial intelligence. Neal shares his unconventional journey from running a successful tech company to revolutionizing real estate investing through data-driven decisions and AI-powered tools. Neal weathered the housing crash of 2008, built a thriving syndication business and a free educational community at MultifamilyU. Listen as Neal teaches us how to be fascinated by real estate, curious about the AI revolution, and to seek new ways to scale and automate your business. Enjoy! Visit Neal at: https://multifamilyu.com/ Sponsors: Calls On Call Extraordinary Answering Service, phone answering for small businesses: https://callsoncall.com Some videos have been recorded with Riverside: https://www.riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_5&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=james-kademan   Podcast Overview: 00:00 Bringing IV therapy to Madison 05:39 Navigating Franchise Regulations 07:47 IV therapy goes mainstream in Tokyo 12:50 Curated med spa offerings 14:44 Choosing Hydrate IV Bar for Madison 19:02 Starting with franchise questions 20:37 Building a Health-Focused Community 24:53 Benefits of Vitamin D Supplementation 27:55 Challenges with supplement patents 32:20 Functional medicine consultations at Hydrate 34:08 Patient advocacy and safe care 39:05 Frequency of sessions per week 41:33 Supplements and their credibility 47:04 Choosing the right location 48:42 Optimizing franchise location space 52:48 Hiring nurses for IV procedures 56:16 Spa services and mobile options Podcast Transcription: Neal Bawa [00:00:00]: We are currently at 1% of the data center needs that we have where humanity is going through the greatest change in its existence. Greater than the invention of the wheel, greater than the invention of fire, greater than the invention of the personal computer and the Internet put together. We have never seen anything of this Type. The smartphone wasn't even 1% of the AI revolution. And we think of the smartphone as the greatest invention of our times. It's nothing compared to AI. James [00:00:37]: You have found Authentic Business Adventures, the business program that brings you the struggle stories and triumphant successes of business owners across the land. Downloadable audio episodes can be found in the podcast link found@drawincustomers.com we are locally unwritten by the bank of Sun Prairie Calls On Call, Extraordinary answering service, the Bold Business Book as well as Live Switch. And today we're welcoming, preparing to learn from Neil Bawa of Growcapitus. I'm told, Neil, you are the mad scientist of multifamily. Is that true? Neal Bawa [00:01:10]: It's a moniker I present at many conferences. So I presented at over 101 of the times when I was walking up to the stage, they were announcing and talking about me. The announcer said, the mad scientists of multifamily. And that got a nice gasp out of the audience and I was like, I like this. And so the next year I went to the conference, he introduced me as a mad scientist. And then eventually I was like, people like this concept because it helps them understand that I'm data driven. I'm very AI focused. And so it's an interesting moniker. Neal Bawa [00:01:41]: I don't have the dark brown hair, but I mean that's how I roll. So I let it be and eventually it became part of our story. James [00:01:51]: That is incredible. So tell me the story. How did you end up with the moniker of the mad scientist of multifamily? That's not something people throw randomly around. Neal Bawa [00:02:00]: Yeah, so look, I'm not a real estate guy, not a real estate royalty. No one in my family is in real estate. I'm a technologist. I'm from India, came here as a computer scientist. Data science is my area of interest. I'm an amateur data scientist, but my degree is in computer science and I ran a tech company from 1999 to 2013. Very successful, not a start up, you know, hundreds of employees. And we sold it in 2013. Neal Bawa [00:02:28]: And my interest in real estate started when the senior partner in the firm, I was a junior partner, basically said in 2003, we are not going to rent, we are going to build our own campus. And this wasn't a multifamily campus at that time. It was an office campus for a business. And, you know, we had 150 employees, and we were renting from somebody. And he didn't like that. So he, under his guidance and his expert advice, I built the first campus in 2003. We took 12 months to build it. We had no investors. Neal Bawa [00:03:00]: We had no bank. It was just all cash. We built it ourselves because the business was quite profitable. At the end of that process, I realized just the extraordinary, shockingly high benefits that you get when you use depreciation, Right? Cause this big campus, 27,000 square feet, and I just all of a sudden was making. Taking a lot more money home. I wasn't making more money. I was just taking a lot more money home because the depreciation of that building was phenomenal. And that got me hooked into real estate. Neal Bawa [00:03:30]: Because at one time, I remember after that building was done, James, I remember saying to my wife, I think real estate is the best authorized tax scam in America. Now, obviously, I didn't know depreciation back then. I didn't understand accounting. Now I understand that there's nothing scammy about it. You know, depreciation is a legitimate right. And you take it for real estate. You can also take it for other things. But for real estate, it's. Neal Bawa [00:03:56]: It's extremely beneficial compared to any other form of depreciation, any other business. And so I realized that I, you know, I had the big fat tax salary, and I was living in Taxifornia, so I was basically working for the man. 50% of my salary was going to state and federal. And so I said, I need to find a way around this, because I read a book by Robert Kiyosaki, and I remember the statement, it's not what you make, it's what you keep. Right? And I was like, I ain't keeping much of my salary. So I was like, okay, I need to get into real estate. So I went back to my boss and said, you know, what we did with this campus was really great. Let's do it again. Neal Bawa [00:04:31]: And so we built a bunch more campuses. I think four or five campuses were built and improved coming up to 2008. And so each year, what would happen is I was keeping more and more of my income because of all the depreciation that I was getting. And so I was saving and saving and saving. And so I'd ended up with, you know, pretty large amount of money by the time 2008 hit. And then when that happened, all of a sudden, property values plummeted. They went down. And so I would go to, you know, my family events and everyone would just bash real estate. Neal Bawa [00:04:58]: Everyone's like, this is horrible. Don't buy real estate. It's horrible, horrible. It's going to crash. You know, it's worth nothing, blah, blah, blah. And you can imagine everyone was saying that because, you know, all the television, on the tv you're just hearing bad news, bad news. Every day it's bad news. It can only go down further. Neal Bawa [00:05:11]: You know, millions and millions of homes are in foreclos. And I'm like, I don't understand this. I don't understand. I mean, I'm from the Warren Buffett school of investing, which is, you know, when things are cheap, you buy them. So I'm like, but I don't want to make a mistake. You know, I have this money, this, that I've saved up over the last five or six years. I want to go out and buy as many single family homes as I can. But I don't want to make a mistake. Neal Bawa [00:05:34]: What if I'm just an idiot that knows nothing? So I decided that I would basically educate myself. And I did that in the typical way that, you know, technologists and engineers do. I said, I'm going to mine as much data as possible and try to get insights from that data. So I started mining websites like Bureau of Labor Statistics and Zillow and Trulia and Redfin and you know, all these other sites that realtor.com that you've heard about in the real estate area. And I'm mining gigabytes of data and putting them into a statistical analysis software called R. The software is R and statisticians know it. And you know what R does? It makes it easy for you to take huge amounts of data that you know nothing about and give you insights, right? These days, AI does it and it even does it better than the software. But back then there was no AI. Neal Bawa [00:06:23]: So the software would give you insights, it would give you correlation. So you could say something like, show me real estate profits that are made in this city and this city and this city and correlate that real estate profit with these various things that I'm looking at. What is the highest correlation? Is the correlation of profits highest to population growth or job growth or income growth or home price growth or crime reduction or schools. Where's the correlation? The connection? The biggest, right? And then based on that correlation,...

What caused the multifamily market crash that blindsided most investors? In this episode, Russ and Joey sit down with Neal Bawa, a data-driven real estate expert, to discuss the multifamily market crash that caught many investors off guard. Neal shares insights on how the combination of rising interest rates, oversupply, and assumptions about cash flow has caused property values to drop 20–30% across the U.S., creating both challenges and opportunities for investors.Whether you're a seasoned investor or just starting out, this episode offers a rare look at the lessons learned from the multifamily market downturn and how to position yourself for success in the next cycle.Top three things you will learn: -The real cause of the multifamily market crash -How investors and operators can respond strategically-How to identify future opportunities in a lagging marketAbout Our Guest:Neal Bawa is CEO and Founder at Grocapitus, a commercial real estate investment company. He is known as the Mad Scientist of Multifamily and one of the most in-demand speakers in commercial real estate. He is a data-driven guru, a process freak, and an outsourcing expert. He treats his multifamily portfolio as an ongoing experiment in efficiency and optimization.Disclaimer: The opinions expressed on this podcast are solely those of the hosts and guests and do not constitute financial advice. Always consult a licensed professional for financial decisions.This episode is sponsored by a podcast show partner. We may receive compensation if you use links or services mentioned in this episode.The hosts may have a financial interest in the programs or services mentioned in this episode.Connect with Neal Bawa:- Grocapitus Website: https://www.grocapitus.com- Free eBook (Location Magic): https://multifamilyu.com/lp/location-magic-ebook/- Join Our Investor Club: https://multifamilyu.com/clubBuild a Passive Income Machine in 3 Steps:Here's how to flip the script and start building wealth the way the wealthy do

Episode Summary Neil Bawa, former Silicon Valley tech executive turned "mad scientist of multifamily," breaks down how he went from building custom campuses for his healthcare company to managing 4,400+ rental units worth hundreds of millions. This isn't your typical "I flipped a house and quit my job" story—Neil backed into real estate through depreciation strategy, made an $800,000 mistake on his first project, and now uses heavy data analytics to target growth markets and build affordable housing across middle America. What You'll Learn How to enter commercial real estate backwards—and why building your own company's campus might teach you more than any fix-and-flip ever could Why depreciation is the "cheat code" that tech executives with fat California salaries discover first—and how it drove a 40-50% sales increase for Neil's core business The data scientist approach to market selection—what "location magic" looks like when you strip out gut feel and let the numbers talk Why 2009 timing made all the difference—and how Neil transitioned from dozens of single-family homes to full-scale multifamily investing by 2013 Episode Highlights [00:00] Introduction—Neil Bawa joins to discuss his unconventional path from Silicon Valley to affordable housing development [02:15] The $800,000 mistake—how building a custom campus from scratch in 2003 taught expensive lessons but created unfair competitive advantage [04:30] Discovering the depreciation cheat code—why most high-income tech workers stumble into real estate for tax reasons, not investment strategy [06:45] Perfect timing meets preparation—buying dozens of single-family homes in 2009 while simultaneously developing the "location magic" framework [08:20] From single-family to multifamily—the 2013 pivot that led to a 4,400-unit portfolio and the Mission 10K affordable housing initiative Resources Mentioned Grow Capitas—Neil's investment company Mission 10K—initiative to build 10,000 affordable rental homes across middle America Location Magic—Neil's data-driven market analysis framework (used by 50,000+ people) About the Host I'm JP Fluellen, a real estate professional working the Springfield, Missouri market. I've seen enough transactions to know that the best lessons come from people who've made expensive mistakes and lived to systematize around them. Subscribe & Review Subscribe to the Success Agent Podcast wherever you're listening right now. If this episode gave you a different way to think about market selection or commercial real estate, leave a review—it helps other agents find conversations that actually move the needle.

Keith talks with data-driven investor Neal Bawa, the "mad scientist of multifamily," about why apartment values have dropped 20%–30% while single-family prices have stayed resilient.  They break down how interest rate shocks, the homeowner lock-in effect, and a wave of new multifamily supply are reshaping returns for today's investors.  Keith and Neal also dissect the build-to-rent model—who it really serves, how apartment oversupply is pressuring its rents, and why pending legislation could upend the space.  Neal closes with a specific, data-backed timeline for when multifamily rents and values may finally turn the corner, giving listeners a concrete roadmap instead of vague market guesses. Resources: Grocapitus Website - https://www.grocapitus.com Multifamily U's Free eBook: Location Magic - https://multifamilyu.com/lp/location-magic-ebook/ Multifamily U's Investor Club – https://multifamilyu.com/club Episode Page: GetRichEducation.com/609 For access to properties or free help with a GRE Investment Coach, start here: GREmarketplace.com GRE Free Investment Coaching: GREinvestmentcoach.com Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE  or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Invest with Freedom Family Investments.  For predictable 10-12% quarterly returns, visit FreedomFamilyInvestments.com/GRE or text  FAMILY to 66866  Unlock truly passive real estate income—visit flockhomes.com/GRE today to see if your properties qualify for a 721 exchange with Flock Homes. To get in the best physical, mental, and professional shape of your life, go to DanielThomasHind.com and apply for Daniel's intensive 1-on-1 coaching for burnt-out entrepreneurs and executives. Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review"  For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com  Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript:   Keith Weinhold  0:00   Keith, welcome to GRE. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. The single-family real estate market is steady, but with apartment building values down 20 to 30% since 2022 when will the multifamily Armageddon end? We ask our qualified guest, and how will slowing birth rates in immigration affect real estate? And more today on Get Rich Education. You know, Mid South Home Buyers, that top Memphis turnkey provider. I learned that a secret weapon behind their explosive growth is more than just you buying their properties, it's an executive coach for nine years now, their CEO, Terry Kerr, and his COO, Pat Nix, have worked privately with a coach who I've now learned from too, and he doesn't market himself online anywhere. After 12 years behind the scenes, that coach is now making himself available exclusively for GRE listeners. His name is Daniel Thomas Hind. If you're a hard-charging business owner or investor who wants to get in the best shape of your life, physically, mentally, and professionally, you can fill out an application for a free consult. This is private one on one coaching for those willing to go to uncommon lengths to achieve uncommon results. Thanks to Daniel, we've all become better leaders, better operators, and better men. It started by showing up for ourselves. Now it's your turn. Go to Daniel Thomas hind.com H I N D, that's Daniel Thomas hind.com and sign up before Spotsville Flock homes helps multifamily owners exit the operator grind, whether it's your six plex or a 50 unit apartment, through a 721 exchange. This defers your capital gains tax. It's a strategy long used by institutions. Now you can swap tenants and toilets for passive income and zero management. Request your initial valuations. See if your property qualifies at flockhomes.com/gre That's F L O C K homes dot com slash G R E.   Neal Bawa  2:13   You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is Get Rich Education.   Keith Weinhold  2:29   Welcome to GRE from Valencia, Spain to Valencia, California, and across 188 nations worldwide. America's favorite shaved mammal on a microphone is back with you for another wealth building week. I'm Keith Weinhold, and you're listening to Get Rich Education. The world's biggest problems are the world's biggest businesses. That's not a coincidence, and that's why we discuss housing here. And there's been a chronic shortage of affordable housing last month at a commencement speech, Harrison Ford, yes, the guy that played both Han Solo and Indiana Jones, talked about how a fulfilling life has both passion and purpose. Passion is what gets you out of bed in the morning, purpose is what helps you sleep at night, you and I. We can bring this mindset to our lifestyle, to the business we do, and to our investing. Treating tenants well is what helps real estate investors sleep well at night. While we're doing well, we can be doing good too. Multifamily syndicators keep failing, going out of business, and losing all of their investors' money due to mortgage rate resets. It just keeps happening. What this really means, that these groups that pooled together investor money to buy apartment buildings, largely that were set up in 2022 and earlier keep blowing up almost fully due to the fact that interest rates reset higher. Some of them had a fixed rate for five years. Well, rates spiked four years ago, and that's why a lot of them have yet to blow up, and these apartments have lost so much value that no one will refinance them, you know. Even if that apartment operator increased the net operating income over the years, even if rents went up, it doesn't matter. So, you still haven't heard the last of it. Do you remember a couple years ago, when a lot of people in the apartment space, they were saying just stay alive till 25 and that nonsense, like if you keep your head above water until 2025 oh well, then rates are certainly going to fall, and everyone's going to be okay. Well, 2025 is long gone.    Keith Weinhold  5:01   Mortgage rates haven't fallen in any significant way, so that survive until 25 thing or whatever mantra derivative people used that was a farce, like I've said on the show here for years. You cannot predict interest rates, so I didn't make the call that they were going to go up or down at all, because you can't predict them, but so many people said, oh, rates will fall substantially by now, no way, you just can't make that assumption, you've got to take history over hunches, and all of that, a lot of those multifamily deals 100% depended. depended on refinancing at favorable rates, and that's exactly why they failed. A surefire way to look foolish is to predict interest rates. We'll talk more about the multifamily Armageddon with today's guest. I also want to get into what's called the 21st century road to housing act, because that became one of the most hotly debated housing policy provisions this year. And what this is, is a Senate bill, and it would require certain large institutional investors that develop these bills to rent single family communities. It would force them to sell those homes to individual buyers within seven years. So, in other words, what a big firm could do is build a neighborhood of rental homes, lease them for up to seven years, but they couldn't hold on to them any longer than that. They couldn't hold them indefinitely as rentals, this bill is not aimed at you, the individual investor. It is aimed at big institutions, and what I mean by that is that's generally defined as owning 350 or more homes. That's what we're talking about here. Small landlords and mom and pop investors are not the target, it targets corporate portfolios, and this means groups whose names you've probably heard of, like Blackstone, First Key Homes, Progress Residential, and Invitation Homes. They are some of the heavyweights that the government is looking to clamp down on, so whenever you hear someone talk about big Wall Street landlords, that is who they're talking about. Now, some groups are pretty worried about the 21st Century Road to Housing Act, like the NHB, that's the National Association of Home Builders, and a lot of multifamily groups are concerned, and why is that? Well, the effect is it could dramatically reduce new housing production.   Keith Weinhold  7:44   See, a big institution like First Key Homes or Blackstone, they wouldn't want to even get into this business anymore. They wouldn't want to build big build to rent communities anymore if they have to sell them all within seven years. See, they want to buy and hold for the long term, kind of like what you and I are doing, because you and I know that owning a group of selective buy and hold single family rentals is a really profitable place to be, but so if they don't want to build, then that creates a reduction in supply, which could make prices go up, and then obviously hurt those trying to afford their own home. Well, that would defeat the purpose of this whole thing. I mean, my gosh, this always seems to happen when government gets involved. So, the 21st Century Road to Housing Act could limit supply, which is the exact opposite of its intent to get first-time home buyers into their first home, and if this passes, it does have bipartisan support. This lower supply, then yes, indeed puts upward pressure on prices. Just amazing. So then it could actually go on to help the everyday mom and pop investor, like you and I, that already owns property, the individual at last check, though they're looking to pass a version that still restricts some of these giant institutions from getting into build to rents, but yet it does not have that seven year sale requirement. What's really important to remember here is that Washington, they're looking to stifle big Wall Street players from the rental market, which could reduce supply. They're not targeting individual investors. The context that's important is that these groups, they own 10s of 1000s of homes, they don't own hundreds of 1000s, and they don't own a million, so it's a really small percentage of the housing market, whatever direction policy breaks, then the headlines that it creates are just greater in magnitude than the effect on the market is. It's an important frame of reference here. Let's meet this week's guest. This week we're welcoming back a guest that we haven't heard from in a year or two in real estate circles. He is popularly known as the mad scientist of multifamily. He's quite an in-demand speaker. He has a $500 million multifamily portfolio that he essentially shares with over 1300 investors. He's sharp, a good educator, and a straight shooter. That's why he's here. It's a warm welcome back to Neal Bawa.   Neal Bawa  10:32   Thanks for having me on the show again. It's delightful to be here, and so many interesting things to talk about in the world these days.   Keith Weinhold  10:38   There really are.. I don't know if we can get it all in, Bawa is spelled B A W A. Neal, I want to get to your future housing market outlook later. How you think the future looks, including when multi families quasi Armageddon might end. But first, you're known as a data driven real estate guy. Tell us about that, and how being data driven makes you profitable.   Neal Bawa  11:03   I see concern, and I'll tell you why. The single family and multifamily market have been atrociously incredibly divergent since the first quarter of 2022 They have not tracked yet each other at all, even though if you look at the last 50 years, they tend to track each other. So you know, 2008 was a Armageddon for single family, Armageddon for multifamily, and they both sort of came up in 2012 2013 and then they had a really good time until Covid.   Keith Weinhold  11:30   Yeah,   Neal Bawa  11:31   but the second quarter of 2022 is when Fed started raising rates, and since then we've sort of slid - multifamily has gone down in terms of pricing between 20 and 30% depending upon the metro, you know, and depending upon whether it's new construction, new construction assets have gone down more than 30% and existing assets that are filled up have gone down by 20 to 30% depending upon the metro. So, metros that have a large amount of supply, closer to 30% decline in value, the metros that have less supply probably closer to 20% decline in value, right.   Keith Weinhold  12:03   Demand demand has been pretty resilient. It's more of a supply story.   Neal Bawa  12:06   It's a huge supply story, right. So, if you look at, you know, occupancy, essentially what's happened is there was so much supply that came in that really people started on those projects in 2022 maybe they didn't start a construction until 2023 they didn't finish construction until 2025 so they started leasing up in 2025 They had to give offer concessions two months, sometimes three months free, and so that pushed down the rents in 2025. And they're not done, because you typically can't rent an apartment in six months. If it's brand new, it's going to take you about 18 months to rent it, and sometimes 24 months, and so it's affected our rents in 2025 it's affecting our rents in 2026. Now it's unlikely to affect it in 2027 but we'll go there, you know, at a later stage. But at the moment, we, what we've seen is negative rent growth in the United States for multifamily for the last 12 to 15 months, and what I think is going to be negative rent growth in Q of this year and Q2 of this year, so Q1 was negative, Q2, which we are in now, is likely to be negative or flat now. Single family, on the other hand, has gone in a different direction, which has been very difficult to understand, and I believe it's taken me a while to really understand this, but I think I've finally figured it out. Single family prices are not down since 2022 which makes no sense at all, because the average mortgage in the United States today is almost double, almost double, not quite double, but almost double of what it was in at the beginning of 2022 when interest rates were about 3.3 3.4% Right now we're sitting around, you know, six and a half percent interest rates, so not quite doubled interest rates, but they've obviously gone up a fair bit, and as a result, your average, you know, mortgage has almost doubled, but home prices haven't dropped, which makes no sense if you really think about it, because home prices are a factor of demand, and they're also a factor of people's ability to pay, so if all of a sudden within four years you're paying, the mortgage is doubled, then less people are going to be able to buy, but it stayed up, the market has stayed up, and the biggest reason it stayed up is because of what is known as the lock-in effect. So, the US market typically has a million new homes every year, and there's more than a million existing homes that are transacted, right? So, it's an open market, it's a perfect competition market, but it hasn't been perfect competition for the last four years, because so many people locked in ridiculously low interest rates.    Neal Bawa  14:28   Perfect example, in 2021 and 2022 I have a 15 year mortgage at 1.75% If I sell my house back to myself, my mortgage quadruples, quadruples, right, because it goes from 1.75% to six and a half percent, so I can't even imagine even think about leaving my home, right, because it's just such a perfect loan. Most people don't have anywhere near 1.75% but there's lots of people with more mortgages in the 3% three and a half percent, and 4% range that basically can't go anywhere, and because those homes are not coming into the market. The last three years the market has had this unusual not enough supply factor, and that's been keeping prices up. That is ending. That is ending, because what we've been tracking is the percentage of homes in the United States that have low mortgages. Low is simply defined as anything under four and a half percent, and that percentage is going down each quarter, because you know divorces happen, deaths happen, you know people move for jobs, and so every time that happens, that locked in rate goes away, because you sell your home and move on, and so for a while that lock in effect was predominant, it was controlling everything, but as time has gone on, interest rates were higher in 2324 2526 For also almost four years have passed since the rate started going up. So each quarter the percentage of homes in the US that have these low interest rates has slowly moved down, and we're almost back to a normal timeframe.   Neal Bawa  15:53   And this is causing the single family market to not have a conniption, but we're starting to see a balancing of the market, where it's not just a buyer's market anymore, in some places it's actually seller's market, some places it's a buyer's market. So we're now starting to see home prices drop in number of markets in the United States. I can't say that they've dropped in super majors, but we're seeing a flattening out effect of home prices in most metros in the US, and there should be a flattening effect. Just to be blunt, I mean, obviously I own a bunch of single-family homes, so I just wanted them to keep going up for selfish reasons. But if you think about it, we had huge home price growth in like 30 plus percent in number of years, 2021 22 and even 23 and during those years, salaries only went up by two to 3% a year. In one year, they went up by 4% and rents also went up like crazy. There was a 2021 was 15% rent growth year. So, at some point, there had to be an adjustment, and we are in that period of adjustment where single family prices are basically flat on a national basis. Yes, going up in the San Francisco Bay Area because of AI, and going up in a couple other technology-heavy metros because of AI, but otherwise fairly flat, and I don't expect that to change for the next year. So, my forecast is next 12 to 18 months, home prices in the US are going to be flat on a nominal basis, they're going to be down on an inflation-adjusted basis, but you know, because of the Iran, more inflation's three and a half percent, so home prices should go up three and a half percent. So, if they stay where they are, well, they're really dropping three and a half percent.   Keith Weinhold  17:29   Yeah, before this year began, I released our forecast, it was for 2% nominal home price appreciation in the one to four unit space for the US this year, and I still like how that looks. There's so much to unpack with what you just talked about. In my view, there's nothing unusual at all that when mortgage rates rose sharply a few years ago, that home prices rose as well. Why? Because actually, that's what usually happens, which is counterintuitive to most people. In all of our lifetimes, residential real estate prices have only fallen significantly one time, that was around 2008 due to a number of unusual circumstances. The only thing that's a bit different this time is, of course, how fast rates increased in 2022 and 2023 and people wondering if residential real estate prices could still keep up, and they certainly have, but yeah, you brought up this dichotomy, this bifurcation about how the apartment market and the one to four unit space kind of separated from each other in 2022 or 2023 That's what's so interesting.   Neal Bawa  18:36   I do want to point out a couple things, though, and I don't want to be a Pollyanna here and talk about negative stuff, but I think that there's big difference between 2008 and that timeframe and where we are today, and that difference is, and it has multiple parts. Not all of your audience is aware of this. Until about 2012 the United States had very reasonable birth rates. You know, we were one of those countries that had avoided the debacle that Japan, Korea, China, and a number of other countries are seeing South Korea being the absolute worst, where basically they were producing one baby per generation, where you need about 2.2 babies just to kind of keep your population where it is, right, and the US was unusually high in that, and that we were still above that threshold, which meant that our population would continue to grow and not fall. Now, there was two reasons our population was growing: One, we had more than 2.2 babies per household, and second, we had a very significant amount of legal and a very significant amount of illegal or undocumented immigration. Right, so we had both of those pipelines today. All three of those have flipped, so the United States now basically looks like Korea or China or Japan in that every household is producing about one and a half babies, which means that our population growth, which hasn't stopped yet, because it takes a while for these things to catch. Up is likely to stop, like it's, and at some point decline again. Luckily, we're not there yet. The US is a fairly young population, unlike Japan, which is one of the oldest populations in the world. So, it'll, we'll still continue to see population growth, but there is no doubt. And you can ask Chat GPT, right? How has population growth in the United States slowed over the last 20 years.    Neal Bawa  19:22   Make me a graph, and it will make you a very nice graph, and you'll very clearly see there's a slowdown in population growth. The second part is both documented and undocumented immigration. It's my estimate that since this administration took over, somewhere between half 1,000,001 million people have left the United States. Now it's very difficult to get an actual number, as you can imagine. A number of these people were undocumented, so we didn't really know how many there were to begin with. And a number of them, when they left, they also left by an undocumented rate, that you know, path. So we've lost a bunch of those people, and also the people that have stayed in the country, we've lost a number of them in the workforce. Here's a perfect anecdote, Keith. About 33% of the construction workforce in the United States was undocumented, one in three. In Texas, as much as 40%   Keith Weinhold  19:45   Yeah, that's huge.   Neal Bawa  19:45   It's very significant. Number of those people don't show up for work anymore. I don't think they've left the US, at least I don't think so. But they don't show up for work anymore, because that's how they get caught, right. So, what we've seen is that the construction workforce in the United States has become been decimated over the last 12 months, and the impact is much greater in the second half of 2025 than the first half. Why? Because even though they wanted to do ICE enforcement, they just simply didn't have enough agents, enough facilities, enough judges. When the second half of last year, they sort of started catching up on that, hiring more agents, getting more facilities, getting more judges, and so we started to see a real challenge there. I have properties in 10 markets in the US, and what I can say is about seven of those markets, mostly Southern markets, I am beginning to see dropping occupancy related to this phenomenon. I'm seeing a reduction, and so markets like Georgia and Texas, Florida are more hit than my northern markets like Idaho. I haven't seen any impact at all, but these southern markets, multiple properties, multiple metros, I'm seeing this - people, mostly of Spanish, Mexican origin, not renewing leases. I don't know what they're doing. I don't know if they're sleeping in their cars. I don't know if they're basically just, you know, staying with mom or staying with, you know, some other family. But I'm seeing a very, very big pullback in my leases tied to this, and occupancy is dropping in those markets that are heavily Hispanic. And so I'm seeing the impact of that on landlords, but I also know that there's an impact on the US at all, and overall demand on rentals, whether it's single family or multifamily. This is a significant impact, because I don't think that the Republicans are going to make a U-turn on this. I don't want to get political, but you know, stating the obvious.   Keith Weinhold  19:45   Yes, United States had its biggest birth year in 2007 when there were more than 4 million babies born. The average age of the first time homebuyer today is 40 years old. If that holds true, that peak would take place in 2047 And then, yes, to your point about changes in immigration, yes, it sounds like a potentially a reduction in demand with what you're talking about, with some vacancies, and also maybe a reduction in supply when you have fewer construction workers to build these places as well, we're talking about building properties. Neal, I want to talk to you about the build to rent space. Somewhat is build to rent better than traditional real estate? I think that's what we really want to know. And for those that don't know, build to rent means when you construct a property where from day one that construction project is built for a tenant, not an owner occupant. I see a lot of pros and cons there. Can you talk to us about the trade-offs between build to rent and traditional real estate?   Neal Bawa  19:52   Yeah, if you think about it, it's a really terrible word, built to rent, because if you think about the word built to rent should be apartments, right, but actually doesn't mean apartments, right? So, built to rent actually means single family or town homes that were built to rent out, right? And then you're like, why don't they just said built to rent apartments and town homes? Well, you know, was too long an acronym, and we suck at acronyms anyway. But BTR, or built to rent, is essentially building single family or town homes, but specifically building them to rent, and it doesn't include any apartments at all, right? And the reason why the BTR market was growing in the last five or six years is that roughly 18 million American families can no longer afford to buy starter single family homes, you know, and by starter I mean, small old single-family homes. That's how Americans usually started, you know, in their 20s and 30s. They would buy these homes, some of them, but they would fix up, and then they over time, in their 30s, late 30s and 40s and 50s, they would upgrade, and then at starting the 50s, it would flatten out, and then the 60s, they would start to downgrade, right? That's been a typical thing that's happened in America for 56 5070, years. Well, that is, cannot happen anymore. And it broke in 2022 until 2022 It was a normal cycle beyond 2022 because interest rates almost doubled, and the mortgages almost doubled, but the incomes only increased by 10 to 20% There became this orphaned generation of Americans, roughly 18 million families, that simply cannot afford to buy that starter home, and they are now forever renters. They don't know it. They think that they're going to catch up at some point, but five minutes with an Excel spreadsheet, I could prove it to them that they're not going to catch up.    Neal Bawa  25:35   Maybe one in 100 families would see a very large increase in income, and that would result in them catching up, but for the most part, as a group, these 18 million families, they're forever enters as a group that didn't exist before 2021 right. It's entirely because of this outrageous increase in mortgages, while not seeing a drop in home prices, that led to this, and so those orphan families, they actually earn pretty well, so these are families that make 70, 80, $90,000 in mid markets. They make over $100,000 if they're living on the coasts or in expensive markets, and they still can't buy that, you know, starter home. And so they don't want to live in apartments. I have lots of apartments, old ones, new ones, and I want these people to live there, but they don't want to live there, and so they've been looking for an option, and that option has been developers like me building communities of 200 300 townhomes or single family homes with a small little yard, and then basically from day one, instead of selling them, renting them out, and then once you're done renting out the whole community with 200 tenants, then you sell that to an apartment company. You know, there's lots of apartment companies in the US that have 100,000 units. Well, they want to buy these because the turnover is lower. So, what happens is most of these town homes and single-family homes for rent. Families come in, and they typically rent for three to five years before they move, whereas in on my apartments I lose 40% of my tenants each year. So, if I have 200 tenants, I lose 80 of them every year, and I have to basically go back, clean up those units, deal with the vacancy. But when I have townhome communities like my Idaho Falls townhome community. I lose a tenant at roughly every four years, and so, as you can imagine, profitability goes up when turnover goes down, right?   Neal Bawa  27:31   Because you don't have that cost of turnover and vacancy, and so eventually those large landlords that are holding 100,000 units figured out, I like this, what Neal Bawa is doing, he's building these 200 townhomes, I want to buy these from him when they're rented. I don't want to build them, I don't want to lease them up, I just want to buy them when they're stabilized. And so BTR became that name for that marketplace where developers would build townhomes and single families, rent them out, and then sell them to institutional, and it was some—   Keith Weinhold  27:56   People think of fabulous institutionalization of the starter home.   Neal Bawa  28:00   And in many ways it is, because what happened is, for a while, these institutional players, like Blackstone and BlackRock, they were like, we are just going to go out and buy 50,000 single-family homes, and that's going to be the institutionalized. Well, that worked really well if you bought in 2008 2009 2010 2011 because you got them bought them at a discount, but when they started buying them in 2015, 16, 17, 18 at ever higher prices, they didn't make any money. So the vast majority of these public funds that were created to buy large amounts of single family have failed if they've purchased anything in the last seven or eight years. If they bought before that, they made huge amounts of money. Family homes are so expensive that basically buying them for rental did not make sense, so these companies have now pivoted to saying we'll only buy communities that have 100 or 200 or 300 of these homes, because then we get the benefits of having centralized leasing, centralized property management, centralized maintenance, and I don't have homes spread all over the metro, they're all in one place, and I can make more profit from that. In theory, that's been good, and you might think that I'm bullish on BTR, but I'm actually today bearish on BTR for one single reason. About seven months ago, Republicans started talking about a bill - I don't know what the name of the bill is, but what this bill does is it forces builds to rent developers like me within seven years of building the property to sell all of the homes in that property to single family tenants, not to Blackstone, not to Blackrock, but to single family tenants. Hasn't passed yet, but it passed the Senate with an 8910 vote, which means that both Democrats and Republicans wanted to vote for this. If it passes the House, and because Donald Trump himself is very heavily opposed to it, he's made it very clear he doesn't like this. He's a developer, obviously. It hasn't passed the House yet, but if it passes the house, that will destroy the build to rent market. No one will ever build build to rent, because the worst possible thing is I build this, and within seven years I have to actually sell it to individual buyers. If I do that, my banks are going to hate me and not give me loans to build BTR anymore. Obviously, there's going to be some grandfathering to the communities that I'm building now, or maybe even build the ones that I'm building in 2027 maybe grandfathered. It usually is, because you know, Congress never does anything retroactively, and they give you a year or two, but if it passes, it's doomsday for BTR. I hope it doesn't happen, but that's the way it's looking, because it's bipartisan. Bipartisan bills are more likely to pass   Keith Weinhold  30:40   Now for the mom and pop investor, the individual investor build to rents have obvious appeal due to your point about the lower turnover, lower maintenance costs on a new build, lower insurance costs often on a new build, and then there's the tenant appeal to a new build as well, but of course there is that investor downside. I think a lot of investors are aware of their thin initial cash flow that they're going to have on build to rent, but you know, Neal, another downside with build to rent, I think a lot of investors don't look at is, hey, just how many of these things are they building? Are they building 500 of them? Do I have some overbuild risk if I buy into this community that could suppress occupancy and rents for a while.   Neal Bawa  31:21   What we've seen is that when Built to Rent started out in 2017-2018 it was its own asset class. It wasn't competing with apartments, it wasn't competing with single family rentals, it was just its own thing. However, in the last two or three years, as more and more apartments flooded the marketplace, we had a glut. It moved away from that. It basically started getting affected, and the rent started falling, just like any other portion of the market. You know, think of it as three portions of market. There's the built to rent, which I described, you know, brand new single family homes, town homes per rent. There's the apartments, both brand new and existing, and there's the single family rentals, right, which there are millions of. What we are seeing now is it's become one market, right? All of them are affecting each other, and the apartments, which have a huge amount of glut, there's a massive amount of new apartments that have come in in the last two years, are really pushing the rents down for single family, they're pushing that rents down for BTR. So, at this point, what I would say to people that have this concern, Keith, is simply look at incoming apartment supply, because if you're in a marketplace, and I'll give you examples of really good markets that are crushed right now. If you're in a market that has a lot of incoming supply, whether you buy a single family rental, a quadplex, a 50 plex that's an apartment, or 100 unit BTR, you're going to suffer for rent growth if you have a lot of incoming supply in 2026 and that is across the board in every market in the US. Huntsville, Alabama is, in my opinion, one of the most interesting markets in the US for 5 year, 10 year growth, right?    Neal Bawa  32:54   If I had to say you don't need a loan, it's just your own cash, no investors, where would you put money in? It would be at the top of my list, not at the very top. Idaho Falls is definitely the number one market in the US in my list, but Huntsville is up there. But right now, do you know what rent growth in Huntsville is? Minus 2% negative 2% Why? Because there's 6000 units coming into a market that's, you know, 1/5 or 1/10 the size of Phoenix, right. It's 1/10 the size of Dallas, but it has half the units of Dallas or Phoenix coming in, and so rent growth is negative there. So, what I would say is today absolutely everyone that is an investor should understand that we live in the magic world of AI, and you should be talking with Chat GPT about incoming supply for any market that you're interested in, and using that to make your decisions, because all of these markets merged, BTR, new apartments, old apartments, single family, everything has emerged in the last 24 months, where they're all affecting each other, and if there's too much supply of any one kind, it's affecting all of the other markets, and that's the message that I have. And none of this is like you have to go buy a $25,000 software like Costar today. Chat GPT is your costar.   Keith Weinhold  34:11   You're listening to Get Rich Education. We're talking with the mad scientist of multifamily, Neal Bawa, where we come back, including what he thinks about recovery for the beleaguered multifamily market. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. 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What does it look like for the path to recovery for the US multifamily market?   Neal Bawa  36:45   Luckily, demand is strong, and even though occupancies have dropped, typically the multifamily market, the large multifamily market in the US, tends to be between 95 and 96% occupied. Okay, and right now we're on 93% so that all that incoming supply means that about 7% of our apartments in the US are empty at the moment, we're trying to fill them, and we are seeing that occupancy drop, not across just new apartments that are leasing up, but also drop in class B and class C. We've also seen a huge increase in concessions, so I studied this quite obsessively, and I can tell you that 2026 in some markets is the recovery year, but not across the board in the United States, and the reason for that is sentiment. Once renters get used to huge amounts of concessions, it's like a drug, it takes a little while before you wean those renters off of those drugs, and so there's that hit right now. Every renter program,   Keith Weinhold  37:44   Everyone wants their freebie for good.    Neal Bawa  37:46   Yeah, exactly. It's like, hey, what, you're not giving me two months free? Hey, what, you're not even offering me one month free? It takes a while for that expectation to happen, because there's such a huge amount of concessions in the US. So, to me, there are a few markets, usually the smaller markets or very fast growing markets, where there's a recovery in 2026 but otherwise 2027 The first half of 2027 is recovery. The second half of 2027 is fast rent growth in a lot of markets. Why? Because remember, interest rates have been high since 2023 A lot of projects were started in 2022 went into construction in 23 came to market in 25 and 26 Lease ups are happening in 25 and 26 By early mid 27 these are all leased up, right? The second half of 2027 there isn't a lot of delivery in any of these big markets, because to deliver in the second half of 27 you would have started construction in that second half of 2025 and I counted those permits market by market. There's just not a lot, because by that time everyone knew that projects were not getting funded, everyone knew that interest rates were high, so there wasn't a lot of supply of new starts in the apartment market in the second half of 25 so there's not going to be a lot of delivery in the second half of 27 and all of the existing stuff would have been leased by then. So 2026 is one of those years where we could still see more concessions in the second half of 2026 I still see rent growth for apartments to be flat. You mentioned single family might be a little bit higher. It tends to be a little bit higher than apartments in terms of rent growth, but I think flat rent growth for 2026 is what I'm projecting. I'm projecting small rent growth in the first half of 2027 for most markets, and then I'm projecting robust rent growth, call it 3% or greater on an annualized basis, in the second half of 2027 and I'm projecting that most markets in the US that are not seeing a population drop, so count out places like Detroit are going to see a very aggressive rent growth, four or 5% rent growth, that's aggressive in our world, in 2028 28 and 29 are shaping up to be. Supply deficit years, years where supply is well under demand.   Keith Weinhold  40:05   It's pretty easy to project completions when you just go ahead and look at starts, and really, what you're counting is the story of absorption.   Neal Bawa  40:14   Yep, and what's nice about apartments is you can actually build a single family home in about nine months, right, but you can't build apartments in less than 24 months. There's just so much permitting issues, there's so many delivery issues, fire code issues, and so we have a crystal ball on the multifamily side that we are now getting better at using. I don't think the industry was very good at this in 2022 but now we're really all obsessed with how many permits does my metro have, and how many permits does my state, and how many permits does the US have? And everyone that I know in the industry that's data driven knows that there's a massive glut now, maybe a little bit of a glutton that remaining portion of 2026 equilibrium in 27 and a huge, huge supply deficit in 28 and 29 So everything that I'm doing is based on this, and this crystal ball actually works because of that two year gap between shovels in the ground and delivery,   Keith Weinhold  41:10   and it sounds like you've recommended Chat GPT as a go-to source for investors to look into these things, that happens to be my favorite one as well, and you are well, maybe it's a bit too much to say, but it almost feels like to me pioneering with the way that you use AI. In fact, I know before our show today you were running some other things in the background that made me wonder, hey, am I talking to the real Neil or the clone Neil? I know I've got the real Neil here, but why don't you tell us about how you're using AI to make data-driven decisions in real estate?   Neal Bawa  41:40   Sure, so the first thing is that we've completed our journey with the low hanging fruit of AI. Every single person in our company is fully trained on how to use Chat GPT. Most of our research-related processes are automated. For example, 100% of our investor updates are now written by Chat GPT. What we do is we go into our property manager meetings on Mondays or Tuesdays sit down with them, beat them up, and the transcript is then taken by our team in the Philippines. They take that transcript and put it into a pre-trained Chat GPT string, it's called a custom GPT, and the string took a while to train, but now that it's trained, all it needs is a transcript. We just copy paste it in, we don't give it any instructions, and it outputs a really wonderful investor update, right. And so our updates for our investors are 99% written by AI. Of course, we'll go in and add our comments at the end of the process. So we've automated investor updates, rent comps, so you know if we are underwriting a new property today, what we do is we simply go into a Google file and copy paste the address and hit enter roughly once a minute. A software, which is written by AI - we're not coders, but the software knows how to write code - it checks the file, if it sees a new address, it goes in there, grabs the address, and then it basically goes to apartments.com rent.com realtor.com and all of these places, and checks the rents for this particular property in two mile radius. It eliminates all the ones that don't match, like you don't want to match the rents of a 1970 or 80s built property with a brand new 25 built property. Those are not comps, it's not comparable. So it basically is very careful, it keeps a radius range of two miles, and also basically is a property of the same kind, you know, like it never matches up a three story property with a 10 story property. Those don't match, one of them obviously is more of a central business district or downtown sort of thing, and so it basically grabs all of those rent comps and then puts them into a file and posts in a Slack channel. Usually it takes it about 1213 minutes to do that, and so whoever put that address in about 12 minutes later goes into the Slack channel and says, "Hmm, these are all my rent comps, right? And boom, now you're basically, you have all these ready rent comps. So, what we've done is, we've automated a significant portion of what we are doing with both our property managers and inside the company with acquisitions and things like that, we're also scraping massive amounts of data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics website, which we just couldn't deal with that data before, and building very beautiful, very interactive dashboards. We don't use Chat GPT for that. We find for dashboarding a tool called Claude, which is by a company called Anthropic, is much better, so we have currently over 150 interactive dashboards that Claude has created that update in real time and give us access to data. If anything, I find that we are in this incredible time where decision making has become much easier, as long as you spend time with these tools. So, in our company we have an absolute mandate that no one has broken for the last year. One year per day, people must program, and by programming we mean issuing common language instructions to tools and build dashboards and build software that automates our work. Have we laid off anyone because of this? I mean that. Be the next obvious question. The answer is no, because it's made it easier for us to serve a much larger audience, so it's easier to grow your company. We just are not hiring anyone, and we haven't hired anybody for the last 18 months, so we have a hiring freeze, but at the same time all of our people are employed because they're they're now much more valuable. So everyone in our company is now a programmer, and even though that sounds weird, it's completely true.   Neal Bawa  45:24   Every single person in our company writes code, and they write code by talking with Cloud Code or talking with Chat GPT, and then Chat GPT, of course, does the actual code writing, but people have become very, very good at answering questions and saying, "I want a dashboard like this, turn these radio buttons into drop boxes, and give me the last month, and last three months, and last 12 months, and do this, and do that, and connect this, and I also want to host this on a server, but I want to make sure that only I can see it. I need a password added. Imagine 1000 of these conversations happening in our company every day. Yeah, that's interesting. And what you just described   Keith Weinhold  46:00   there at Gro Capitas is somewhat of a microcosm for what's happening in the broader economy, where we've been in this low high or low fire environment for quite a while. Well, Neal, as we're winding down here, we recently had a new Fed chair come in. It seems incomprehensible to me that there could possibly be any rate cuts. I don't know how we could responsibly make a rate cut with all these inflationary layers. We had the pandemic, and then terrorists, and then the Iran war, and the energy shocks, and all these bottled up supply chains. What are your thoughts with regard to the Fed?   Neal Bawa  46:29   I still think that we'll get one rate cut, and that rate cut will be based on political pressure. So, for the first time ever, I have seen the Fed break into factions, so if you look at the latest Fed meeting, which happened, you know, there was dissent, there were two clear factions, so the Fed is becoming less data driven and more faction driven, and I think that one of the factions, which obviously wants rate cuts to go down, is going to triumph at some point later in the year, but until we get past the incredible increase in inflation because of the Iran war, I don't think that faction is going to win. Right, there's three or four people in that faction, that's not enough votes to get past the others. So I'm predicting no rate cuts until Q4 of this year. If the Fed was entirely logical, there should still not be a rate card in Q4, but I think it'll happen because there's political pressure.   Keith Weinhold  47:25   The preservation of independence is key. Neil Bhawa, this has been great, and a lot of people learn from you. You're a brilliant educator, as well as what you're doing in the multifamily space, and a lot of other places. So, if someone wants to connect with you, learn more about what you do. What's the best way for them to do that?   Neal Bawa  47:43   So we built a website called Multi Family University. It's completely free. There is no subscription. There's no upsell. We do not have an educational product, but what we do is each year we have 8-12 webinars that we create with their extraordinarily good looking thanks to the use of AI. Yay, and we share them with an audience, and usually between 5000 and 1000 people attend our webinars each year, of which roughly 1% become investors with us. The rest, the remaining 99% just continue to get free access to data, and we cover every imaginable real estate topic: Single family, multifamily, industrial hotels, self storage, Airbnb, and even controversial topics outside of real estate, like climate change or impact of climate change and impact of AI. So you know, multifamily university is the best place you can go to, multifamily you.com/club It's a free club, and it's free forever.   Keith Weinhold  48:42   Neal, it's been valuable to our audience. Thanks so much for coming back out of the show.   Neal Bawa  48:46   Thanks for having me.   Keith Weinhold  48:53   Oh, a terrific, wide-ranging chat with Neal. There, yes, this interesting 2022 divergence between single family and multifamily, the slowing birth rate, and how that won't really catch up with real estate in a big way for perhaps 20 plus more years. How single family rentals beat multifamily on the basis of tenant retention, and a lot more that we covered there, and he's got a good data driven timeline for apartments being back in favor by 2027 and 2028 After the interview, Neil and I chatted some more off Mike, and he would like to come back on the show next year. We're probably going to have him, because we have a lot more to talk about at that time. We can see if the multifamily market is really healing. Also, did you pick up on this? I wonder why, for his own home he would get a 15 year mortgage at 1.75% interest, so I'll have to ask him about that. That's surely a fantastic interest rate, but a 15 year loan rather than a 30 year that maybe he could have gotten at two and a half percent at the time. Well, 15 year probably. Is not the best use of capital, because it increases your equity position rapidly. When instead, those dollars could have been out in the market earning an actual return somewhere else. But he's a smart guy, he must have an answer. We can talk about that at that time. We've got a lot of terrific shows coming up here on the GRE podcast, specific learning episodes, where it's just me teaching you, as well as new guests and returning guests too. Until next week, I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. Don't quit your daydream.   Speaker 2  50:35   Nothing on this show should be considered specific personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial, or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of Get Rich Education LLC exclusively.    Speaker 2  51:03   The preceding program was brought to you by Your Home for Wealth Building, getricheducation.com.  

If you're investing in real estate based on location, opinion, or what feels right”…you might be making one of the biggest mistakes investors make.Neal Bawa, widely known as the “Mad Scientist of Multifamily,” challenge one of the biggest misconceptions in real estate investing:

Neal Bawa is here today to discuss the investing intersection of real estate with ai science. Neil explains how he transitioned from a tech career into real estate by applying data science to identify high-performing markets, emphasizing that factors like job growth, population growth, income growth, home price trends, and crime reduction can significantly improve investment outcomes. He outlines how his team uses advanced analytics and AI tools to rank cities, analyze deals, and uncover insights that humans often miss, while also integrating AI deeply into company operations through structured systems like EOS. He highlights selective opportunities in distressed multifamily assets and emerging areas like senior housing, while cautioning that single-family and industrial assets remain expensive. We discuss...  Neil Bawa transitioned from tech to real estate, using it as a tax-efficient path to build long-term wealth. Key drivers of real estate performance include job growth, population growth, income growth, home price trends, and crime reduction. He developed a data-driven system to rank U.S. cities and identify high-performing markets like Madera, California. AI is deeply integrated into his company, with employees required to use it daily and contribute to building internal tools. AI improves efficiency and insight generation, even if it occasionally makes calculation errors. He expects modest interest rate declines in 2026, with mortgage rates around 6–6.3%. Home prices are likely to remain flat or grow slightly (1–2%) due to improving supply and demand dynamics. The "lock-in effect" from ultra-low pandemic-era mortgages has constrained housing supply and prevented price declines. As rates ease, more sellers and buyers are expected to re-enter the market, balancing prices. Multifamily real estate saw price declines with rising rates, unlike the single-family market. Distressed multifamily deals present niche opportunities, especially in overleveraged markets. The office sector is likely near a bottom, with gradual recovery driven by return-to-office trends and limited new supply. Private credit is growing but carries elevated risk, requiring careful selection of managers. Real estate overall is in a transitional phase after several challenging years, particularly for commercial sectors. Today's Panelists: Kirk Chisholm | Innovative Wealth Barbara Friedberg | Barbara Friedberg Personal Finance Marc Walton | Forex Mentor Pro Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/moneytreepodcast Follow LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/money-tree-investing-podcast Follow on Twitter/X: https://x.com/MTIPodcast For more information, visit the full show notes at https://moneytreepodcast.com/real-estate-with-ai-science-neal-bawa-808 

In this powerful episode of The Mike Litton Experience, host Mike Litton sits down with real estate visionary Neal Bawa to uncover an extraordinary journey from adversity to massive success. Born in Mumbai just before the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971, Neil faced unimaginable challenges early in life. From losing his father as an infant to navigating poverty in India, his story is one of resilience, grit, and determination. Fast forward to today—Neil is the founder of Grow Capital, managing over $350 million in investments and working with more than 1,300 investors nationwide. In this episode, he shares how he leveraged data science, timing during the Global Financial Crisis, and unconventional thinking to build a thriving real estate empire. What you'll learn in this episode: How Neal turned hardship into a competitive advantage The power of data-driven real estate investing Why 2009 was the greatest buying opportunity in history How depreciation and tax strategy accelerate wealth The truth about passive investing (and the risks most ignore) Why transparency builds stronger investor relationships Neal also shares insights inspired by futurist Ray Kurzweil and discusses the impact of innovation leaders like Elon Musk on global progress. If you're interested in real estate, entrepreneurship, or personal growth, this episode delivers actionable insights and powerful perspective. Don't forget to LIKE, COMMENT, and SUBSCRIBE to The Mike Litton Experience for more inspiring conversations with world-class entrepreneurs and thought leaders. Welcome to The Mike Litton Experience Podcast! Mike is passionate about being a father, a teacher, a Realtor, an investor and a leader! Everyone has a story and our passion is to help them tell it! We never want you to miss an episode, so please be sure to subscribe. Could we ask you for two quick favors? If you like our program, please tell a friend. Wherever you get your podcasts please leave us a rating. It helps us to connect with quality people just like you! Reach out to Mike on Instagram @themikelittonexperience. Thank you for joining us for The Mike Litton Experience! Who you work with matters and we would be honored to interview with you or anyone you know to sell your home! If you have questions, please reach out text or call 760-522-1227. Thank you! #livinginsandiego, #movingtosandiego, #themikelittonexperience, #homesforsaleinsandiego, #mikelitton, #sellahomeinsandiego, #buyahomeinsandiego, #toptipstogetthebestoffer #themikelittonexperience

Welcome to another episode of Founders Club! On this episode we'll be talking to Neal Bawa about how to find great real estate markets to invest in.   Connect with Founders Club Host Oliver Graf on Instagram: @OliverGraf360   In this episode of Founders Club, host Oliver Graf sits down with real estate data expert Neal Bawa, also known as the "Mad Scientist" of multifamily investing. Neal breaks down his powerful, data-driven approach to identifying the hottest real estate markets in minutes using five key metrics. From population and job growth to income trends and supply, you'll learn exactly how top investors remove guesswork and make smarter, more profitable decisions.   Do me a solid and…   Leave a 5 star review!   Find me on Instagram: @OliverGraf360   Founders Club TikTok: @FoundersClubPodcast   Subscribe to my YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/c/OliverGrafTV   Get on my VIP email list and get new episodes of Founders Club straight to you inbox: http://eepurl.com/g_L2Ev   Book me to speak: https://olivergraf.tv/speaking   Book a 1-on1 coaching session: https://calendly.com/olivergraf360/vip   ► JOIN OUR NATIONWIDE REAL ESTATE TEAM: https://www.100commissionrealestate.com

In this episode of the Real Estate Pros Podcast, Michelle Kesil sits down with Neal Bawa, CEO of Grocapitus and a data-driven multifamily investor, to discuss how analytics and artificial intelligence are transforming real estate investing. Neal explains how his team analyzes hundreds of U.S. markets using key metrics such as population growth, job growth, income growth, home price growth, and crime reduction to identify the most promising opportunities. He shares why strong markets eventually become expensive and how smart investors must move between markets as cycles change.   Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind:  Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply   Investor Machine Marketing Partnership:  Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com   Coaching with Mike Hambright:  Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike   Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat   Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform!  Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/   New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club   —--------------------

In this episode of The Willpower Podcast, host Will Holdren sits down with real estate investor and technologist Neal Bawa, widely known in the industry as the “Mad Scientist of Multifamily.”Neal is the founder and CEO of Grocapitus Investments, a data-driven real estate investment firm with a portfolio spanning thousands of units and hundreds of millions of dollars in assets across the United States. Before entering real estate, Neal built his career in technology and data science — a background that now fuels his analytical approach to investing and market selection. In this conversation, Neal shares how data analytics can be used to identify high-growth markets, minimize risk, and scale multifamily portfolios more predictably. We also dive into the future of housing, the rise of build-to-rent communities, and why relying on data instead of intuition can dramatically improve investment outcomes.Whether you're an experienced investor or just getting started in real estate, this episode breaks down the frameworks Neal uses to evaluate markets, structure deals, and build long-term wealth.

In this episode, real estate data expert and multifamily investor Neal Bawa returns for the annual 2026 housing market forecast. Neal breaks down the performance of single-family and multifamily asset classes over the past several years, explaining why rents were essentially flat in 2025 and how the ICE workforce crackdown pushed a wave of unfinished inventory into 2026. He outlines why multifamily prices have hit a bottom — down 20–30% from their 2022 peak — and why that represents a buying opportunity, while single-family prices have remained surprisingly resilient due to the mortgage lock-in effect. Neal also shares his prediction of a rental supply shortage in 2027–2028 that should drive rent growth and occupancy higher, offers frank advice to syndication investors on holding through the downturn, and explains why small interest rate cuts can have an outsized impact on equity. He also introduces AI as a major wildcard that could reshape housing demand beyond 2030. Tune in for data-driven insights and practical takeaways for investors at every level. Highlights/Topics: 0:00 Intro + welcome Neal Bawa (2026 real estate predictions) 0:34 Single-family vs multifamily explained (Class A/B/C framework) 1:32 Real-world rent drop example: Fresno & Madera inventory surge 2:30 2025 rent growth recap: flat year, concessions, inflation effect 4:36 2026 forecast: supply rolling over, Q1 weak then accelerating rent growth 6:26 Investor question: should you buy now or sit on the sidelines? 7:11 Multifamily vs single-family since 2022: prices, resilience, lock-in effect 10:11 Why single-family cash flow is hardest right now (rates, taxes, insurance) 11:08 Why multifamily is near the bottom + “great time to buy” thesis 13:39 2027–2028 outlook: coming rental supply shortage + rent/occupancy boost 19:50 The AI wildcard: demand, jobs, and what changes after 2030 22:00 Advice for syndication investors: hold, cash calls, protect equity 24:16 Interest rates + equity math: why small rate cuts matter a lot 27:24 The “emotion” factor: sentiment shift and opportunity in 2026 32:00 Wrap-up + Neal's free webinars at multifamilyu.com/club Share this with real estate investors you know Resources: Multifamily University Investor Club — Free webinars (8/year), no upsell, no subscription https://multifamilyu.com/lp/multifamily-university-investor-club-lp/ Grocapitus — Neal Bawa's investment company https://www.grocapitus.com Location Magic eBook — Neal Bawa's data-driven market selection resource https://multifamilyu.com/lp/location-magic-ebook/ Anderson Advisors https://andersonadvisors.com/ Toby Mathis YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@TobyMathis Toby Mathis TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@tobymathisesq Clint Coons YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@ClintCoons    

Today, on a special episode hosted by Maureen McCann, we had the absolute pleasure of chatting with Neal Bawa, aka the "Mad Scientist" of real estate. Maureen and Neal talk the multifamily and single-family housing markets and discuss the impact of interest rates, the shift towards a renter nation, and the importance of data in making investment decisions. Neal also touches on the need for patience in the current market and gives advice for navigating the real estate landscape in 2026 and beyond.Find Neal Bawa:Multifamily University: https://multifamilyu.com/Toby Mathis Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@TobyMathis/videos--To learn more about our full-service turnkey operations, check us out online at www.spartaninvest.comConnect with Spartan!Facebook: @spartanTURNKEYInstagram: @spartaninvestLinkedIn: @spartaninvestConnect with Lindsay!Facebook: @spartanlindsaydavisInstagram: @spartanlindsaydavis

In this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, Rob Chevez sits down with Neal Bawa, known as the “Mad Scientist of Real Estate,” to unpack how data—not opinions—drives smarter investing. A former Silicon Valley executive, Neal shares how discovering the power of depreciation and tax strategy led him into real estate, and how he slowly transitioned from tech to building a multifamily portfolio. The conversation dives deep into using job growth, population trends, and demographic data to rank markets, why most investors misunderstand growth states, and how to identify emerging opportunities before the crowd. If you want to invest based on numbers instead of noise, this episode is a masterclass in data-driven real estate strategy.

In this data-driven episode, Michael Blank is joined by returning guest Neal Bawa, one of the most analytical minds in multifamily real estate. Neal breaks down why the market has failed to rebound as many expected, why 2026 may remain a “muddling” year, and how excess supply, construction costs, and policy decisions are reshaping rents and underwriting assumptions. This conversation offers a clear-eyed, numbers-based outlook on what investors should realistically expect over the next several years.Key TakeawaysThe market is behaving rationally, not emotionally — despite abundant capital, investors remain cautious due to fundamentals, not fear.Three consecutive years of oversupply broke historical patterns, causing Class B and C assets to feel pressure previously thought impossible.Rent growth is slowly returning, with projections around ~1.5% in 2026 and normalization closer to 2.5% beyond that.Many deals will never return to original pro formas, requiring investors to reset expectations and focus on survivability over returns.Rising construction costs from labor shortages and tariffs are likely to suppress new development and benefit existing assets long term.2027–2029 may see meaningful upside, as reduced supply finally meets sustained housing demand.For full episode show notes visit: https://themichaelblank.com/podcasts/session511/

Ever heard a data scientist call real estate magic? That's exactly what happens when Silicon Valley smarts collide with multifamily investing, and this episode of The Liquid Lunch Project proves it. We're sitting down with Neal Bawa, the Mad Scientist of Multifamily, to decode how he built a $600M real estate portfolio by treating cities like spreadsheets, and why he believes most investors are looking in the wrong places. Why Listen? If you're done with recycled real estate advice and want sharper thinking for your business and investments, hit play. Neal reverse-engineers markets, leverages depreciation as a financial weapon, and maps out where smart founders are moving before the headlines hit. Whether you're building your portfolio or scaling your small business, this is a perspective that pays off.

In this episode of A Canadian Investing in the U.S., Glen Sutherland welcomes renowned data-driven real-estate investor Neil Bawa. Neil shares his journey from tech entrepreneur to full-time real-estate operator after selling his company in 2013 and facing a huge tax bill that pushed him into multifamily investing. He now manages a $660 million portfolio across multifamily, self-storage, industrial, and student-housing projects, backed by 1,300 accredited investors. Neil explains why he diversifies across asset classes—citing supply-cycle shifts, learning opportunities, and partnerships—as well as the value of publishing commercial-real-estate data to attract like-minded, analytical investors. Later, the conversation turns to market cycles and practical indicators of when new opportunities emerge. Neil predicts that within 18 months, most U.S. metros will transition from oversupply to shortage, starting a new bullish phase. He outlines how professionals can track this shift using CoStar, Yardi, RealPage, or Hello Data, and even simple rent-growth trends above 2 percent as a signal of recovery.

In this episode of Real Estate Breakthrough,  Host Christina Suter sits down with data geek and real estate powerhouse Neal Bawa to unpack how investors can use data and AI to navigate today's complex market, and why gut instinct alone isn't enough anymore. Neal breaks down the "existential crisis" in ground-up development, why some markets are still overbuilt, and where the real opportunities lie in 2026 for multifamily and single-family investors.  He also shares his personal system for turning spreadsheets and legal documents into clear, actionable insights in minutes, not days, using ChatGPT. You'll learn: Why access to data is now trivial, and how to turn it into a strategic advantage Which markets are poised for growth (and which are still stuck) in 2026 How to identify "needle in a haystack" opportunities in development Why the 5–50 unit space may be stronger now than larger multifamily Neal's take on interest rates, inflation, and why real estate remains a powerful fixed asset in uncertain times Whether you're a data-driven investor or still rely on intuition, this episode will give you the tools, insights, and mindset to make smarter, more confident moves in today's shifting landscape. Connect with Neal Bawa:

Neal Bawa is a technologist, data scientist, and CEO of Grocapitus Investments and Multifamily University. Known as “The Mad Scientist of Multifamily,” he's recognized for pioneering the use of data analytics, AI, and location metrics to drive smarter real estate decisions. Neal oversees a portfolio of over $1B in assets and has educated tens of thousands of investors worldwide on data-driven investing, market trends, and the future of AI in real estate. @nealbawawww.hotelinvestorplaybook.com#nealbawa #technologist #datascientist #CEO #GrocapitusInvestments #MultifamilyUniversity #The MadScientistofMultifamily #grateful #tsc #gogetit Chip Baker Social Mediahttps://www.wroteby.me/chipbaker

In this episode of the Massive Passive Cashflow Podcast, I sit down with Neal Bawa—renowned data scientist, multifamily investor, and founder of GroCapitus, Mission 10K, and Multifamily University. Known as the "Mad Scientist of Multifamily," Neil has helped thousands of investors harness the power of data analytics to identify the most profitable real estate markets across the U.S. Neal shares how he transitioned from running a successful tech company to building a multimillion-dollar multifamily portfolio using his proprietary data-driven system called Location Magic. This method distills hundreds of market variables into five key metrics—population growth, income growth, job growth, home price growth, and crime reduction—to rank U.S. cities and submarkets for optimal returns. We dive deep into how Neal's data science background changed the way investors evaluate markets, why multifamily properties are outperforming single-family homes in 2025, and how his teams are on a mission to build 10,000 rental townhomes for middle-income families nationwide. You'll also discover why the Midwest and Northeast are poised for rent growth, how to spot undervalued secondary markets, and what to expect from real estate cycles over the next decade. Whether you're a seasoned investor or just starting your multifamily journey, this episode is packed with data-driven insights to help you invest smarter and build lasting wealth.     What You Will Learn: How Neal transitioned from tech entrepreneurship to multifamily real estate investing The five key data metrics behind Location Magic (population, income, jobs, prices, crime) Why 2025 is the best time in years to buy multifamily—and the risks of single-family plateauing How to use data analytics to rank markets and find high-growth cities before they boom Why secondary and tertiary markets (like Carmel, Fishers, and Provo) are outperforming large metros How Neal's Mission 10K is reshaping the American Dream through build-to-rent townhomes The role of inflation, supply, and rent growth in the coming real estate cycle Practical strategies to align your portfolio with macro-economic data trends     Links & Resources: Website: www.grocapitus.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nealbawa/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MultifamilyU      Attention Investors and Agents: Are you ready to scale your real estate business and connect with like-minded professionals?

Why This Episode Is a Must-Listen Are you ready to move beyond traditional approaches to real estate and discover today's smartest wealth-building strategies? This episode of Inspired Money brings together five investors  to demystify how property investment is adapting to a tech-driven, data-first era. Whether you're just getting started or scaling up your portfolio, this conversation offers actionable insights on asset selection, risk management, advanced financing, and making an impact—with a wealth-building lens you won't want to miss.  Meet the Expert Panelists Ken McElroy is a multifamily real estate investor, author, and CEO of MC Companies, which manages more than $2 billion in assets nationwide. A popular YouTube creator, podcast host, and founder of The Collective Advisors Mastermind, he is dedicated to teaching others how to achieve financial freedom while giving back through the Sharing the Good Life Foundation. https://kenmcelroy.com Neal Bawa is the CEO and Founder of UGro and Grocapitus, two data-driven commercial real estate investment firms with a portfolio of over 4,800 units and $1 billion in assets under management. Known as “The Mad Scientist of Multifamily,” he is a leading voice in applying analytics, PropTech, and FinTech to transform real estate into a more transparent and tech-enabled asset class. https://grocapitus.com Jay Papasan is a bestselling author and longtime executive at Keller Williams Realty International, where he has led education, publishing, research, and strategic content for the world's largest real estate company. CEO of Produktive and co-author of The ONE Thing (3.5M+ copies sold), Jay also co-owns Papasan Properties Group with his wife Wendy and hosts The ONE Thing and Think Like a CEO podcasts. https://www.jaypapasan.com J Scott is an entrepreneur, investor, and bestselling author of five real estate books that have sold over 500,000 copies worldwide. A former Silicon Valley executive at Microsoft and eBay, he's now a partner at Bar Down Investments, where he currently owns and operates a $200M multifamily investment fund with over 1,100 units. https://www.jscott.com Paul Moore is the Founder of Wellings Capital, a firm that manages 8 private equity commercial real estate funds. He is a seasoned commercial real estate investor with experience in multifamily, self-storage, and large-scale developments. An entrepreneur and author of two real estate books, Paul has completed over 100 property investments and regularly shares his expertise through podcasts, media appearances, and industry events. https://www.wellingscapital.com This episode is sponsored by Runnymede Capital Management. Get your free 3-minute financial plan at https://www.inspiredmoney.fm/getplan and discover your retirement age, income, and strategy today. Key Highlights 1. The Power and Pitfalls of Niche Asset Classes  Paul Moore's perspective on “boring but beautiful” sectors like self-storage and small-bay industrial assets emphasizes their recession resistance and long-term cash flow. He underlines: “A great property can be ruined by a mediocre operator, and a mediocre asset can be saved and prosper under a great asset manager.” This theme of specialized knowledge—versus chasing trends—is critical for sustainable, risk-adjusted returns. 2. Leveraging Data, AI, and Hyperlocal Analysis Neal Bawa demonstrates how real estate investing is being revolutionized by artificial intelligence and predictive analytics. “All of our rent comps are now done by a tool called Manus…We're able to manage our properties better because our weekly reports on asset management are AI-generated,” Neal shares. The key is using tech not just for efficiency, but for smart, precision targeting in investment decisions. 3. Strategic Asset Management—From Landlord to Business Owner Ken emphasizes the essential mindset shift from simply being a landlord to managing properties as scalable businesses. “If the asset is in really, really good shape, it's well capitalized, it's maintained, financially maintained…then it actually helps when you start to exit.” Operational excellence—including robust asset management and leveraging both people and systems—drives sustainable value. 4. Aligning Values and Wealth: Impact Investing in Real Estate  This episode dives into strategies for doing well while doing good. Jay Papasan highlights, “The money is good for the good it can do...wealth is great because we can make great change with it.” Both he and J Scott discuss setting impact goals, engaging community, and integrating purpose into investment models—showing that profitability and purpose aren't mutually exclusive. Call-to-Action Your Inspired Money challenge for the week: take one step to move from “landlord thinking” to “asset manager thinking.” Review a property you own, or one you're considering, and calculate its Net Operating Income. Ask yourself, "What simple change could increase cash flow or reduce costs?"  Mentioned in this Episode: Warren Buffett Charlie Munger John Arrillaga The Perfect Investment: Create Enduring Wealth from the Historic Shift to Multifamily Housing (Paul Moore) CoStar Real Estate Manager Yardi Manus William Wilberforce Amazing Grace (2006 film)   Find the Inspired Money channel on YouTube or listen to Inspired Money in your favorite podcast player. Andy Wang, Host/Producer of Inspired Money

In today's episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes Neal Bawa, founder and CEO of Grocapitus and a nationally recognized leader in data-driven real estate investing. Known as the “Mad Scientist of Multifamily,” Neal brings a tech-forward approach to real estate, combining sharp market analysis with a clear-eyed view of risk, strategy, and opportunity. Neal shares how he went from running a tech company in Silicon Valley to building a $660 million real estate portfolio. He breaks down the importance of data modeling, boots-on-the-ground research, and why emotional detachment is critical for success. In 2009, his in-depth analysis revealed a unique opportunity to purchase distressed properties in Madera, California, long before others recognized the potential upside. By pairing his insights with real-world hustle, he secured cash-flowing assets in a down market. The conversation covers more than just the past. Neal outlines today's market challenges and where he sees opportunities. He explains how rising interest rates, oversupply in Class A markets, and flawed assumptions about cash flow have changed the investment landscape. Through it all, his emphasis remains the same: use data to identify market timing, stay ahead of headlines, and act strategically. Jonathan and Neal also dig into why townhomes have become the most efficient build-to-rent option, how Neal's team sources land with minimal upfront capital, and why absorption rates—not just occupancy—are the key metric to watch in multifamily. For new and seasoned investors alike, this episode is a masterclass in seeing opportunity where others see risk. In this episode, you will hear: How Neal used data and timing to succeed during the 2009 downturn The importance of combining tech with in-person market validation Tactics for spotting mispriced Class A properties using rent roll analysis Absorption trends as a better indicator than occupancy rates Townhomes as an efficient and scalable build-to-rent solution Land acquisition techniques that limit upfront capital exposure Frameworks for building scalable, data-informed investing systems Market shifts that signal rent growth recovery on the horizon Follow and Review: We'd love for you to follow us if you haven't yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We'd love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Grocapitus website - grocapitus.com/neal-bawa Multifamily University on YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/MultifamilyU Neal Bawa on Facebook - www.facebook.com/NealBawaMFU Neal's Instagram - www.instagram.com/nealbawa Connect with Neal on LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/neal-bawa Grocapitus on X - x.com/grocapitus Neal on TikTok - www.tiktok.com/@nealbawa Multifamily University Investor Club - multifamilyu.com/club Grocapitus Website – https://www.grocapitus.com Free eBook: Location Magic – https://multifamilyu.com/lp/location-magic-ebook/ Join Our Investor Club – https://multifamilyu.com/club Website - www.streamlined.properties YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties TikTok - www.tiktok.com/@trustgreene Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/StreamlinedReal Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties Email - info@streamlined.properties Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

If you're thinking about getting into real estate in 2025, this episode is non-negotiable. We're joined by Neal Bawa, one of the most data-driven minds in multifamily investing, to break down what's really happening in the market right now — and what that means for your money. We cover rising interest rates, shifting cap rates, where the smart money is moving, and the mistakes new investors are making without even realizing it. Whether you're a first-time investor or looking to scale, this is the inside look you won't find just anywhere. Neal even gives his take on his top 3 markets that he would invest in if he were starting over today Level up your real estate game instantly - Join our Wealth Juice Real Estate Investor Network for less than $1/day https://www.skool.com/wealth-juice-investor-network-5387/about?ref=0b0b3cf0d0d2448f97b4a9d4f78a2220 Close your next real estate deal with Remote Lender - No docs, no hassle https://lending.itsfernandocorona.com/d_4s RESOURCES

Neal Bawa is CEO / Founder at Grocapitus and Mission 10K, two commercial real estate investment companies. Neal's companies use cutting-edge real estate analytics technology to source and acquire OR build large Commercial properties across the U.S., for over 1,000 investors. Current portfolio over 4,400 units, with an AUM value of $660M[00:00-19:30] Data-Driven Real Estate Investments[19:31-21:28] Types of Real Estate Investors[21:29-23:31] Ranking Cities for REI[23:32-29:03] The Case of Austin[29:04-36:09] AI in Real Estate Investment[36:10-38:43] Access to good RE data[38:44-41:52] Final Investor Q&ASpecial Mention: Thomas Edison, Elon Musk, Tesla, SpaceXFind Neal at https://grocapitus.com/neal-bawa/Any questions?*** Grab my 10k/month passive income strategy and weekly newsletters at https://tinyurl.com/iwg-strategy BOOK IS OUT! Grab Your Copy and learn how to get your feet wet in real estate investing

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In this episode of Keeping It Real Estate, Daniel Fink welcomes back Neal Bawa, the "Mad Scientist of Multifamily," for a timely deep dive into how tariffs, inflation, and shifting market cycles are impacting real estate today. Neal breaks down why 2027 could be a golden window for value-add investors, why Class A properties are unusually attractive, and how tariff-driven cost changes could reshape the market over the next few years. He also shares his outlook on interest rates, the myth of widespread distress in multifamily, and the key indicators investors should watch right now. Tune in for sharp insights grounded in real data — and a few bold predictions you won't hear anywhere else. To get in touch with Neal, reach out to this website: https://multifamilyu.com/ Keeping it Real Estate is brought to you by Granite Towers Equity Group, helping investors create passive income through multifamily real estate. To get in touch with the founders of Granite Towers, Mike Roeder and Dan Brisse, visit https://www.granitetowersequitygroup.com/contact

On this episode of Next Level CRE, Matt Faircloth interviews Neal Bawa, known as the “mad scientist of multifamily,” live from Best Ever Conference. They dive into Neal's preparation for the BEC real estate debate on whether the Fed has stuck a soft landing, highlighting key data points like wage growth outpacing rent growth and the Fed's dual tools for market intervention. Neal also shares his actual market outlook—separating his debate stance from his real views—stating he is bullish on rent growth but cautious on cap rates and interest rates due to fiscal pressures. He ends with a tactical nugget: target markets like Indianapolis with strong rent growth, low property taxes, and limited new supply. Neal Bawa -CEO - Based in: San Francisco, California - Say hi to them at multifamilyu.com/ Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/cre. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

AI is rapidly becoming an essential tool across industries, but for real estate and asset management, it's no longer optional. In his fourth appearance on the podcast, Neal Bawa returns to deliver a powerful masterclass on AI in real estate. Neal is the CEO and Founder/Cofounder of Grocapitus, Multifamily University, and Mission10K. Known as “the Mad Scientist of Multifamily,” his insights have helped him build an asset portfolio nearing $1 billion. Neal begins by reintroducing himself before diving into best practices for using AI in real estate. He explains how ChatGPT supports his developments and investment strategies, why AI excels at recommendations and comparisons, and how machine learning can save both time and money. He also shares tips on making AI tools more effective in the workplace. You'll learn why AI is indispensable for real estate professionals, how to leverage ChatGPT's “deep research” feature, and how AI can identify potential vulnerabilities to avoid legal issues. Neal also reveals how he uses AI for market research and which data sets he inputs to get the best results from ChatGPT. Tune in to find out how AI is transforming real estate (and how you can stay ahead of the curve)!Key Points From This Episode:AI in real estate, plus best practices for maximization. Why you should be using AI in everything you do.How Neal's ChatGPT Absorption Metric informs new developments and investments.The joys of leaning on AI for recommendations and why it's best for making comparisons.Ways to make AI fun and rewarding for everyone at work. Becoming an AI master, saving valuable time, and the power of “deep research.”How AI can help identify vulnerabilities in contracts and agreements, minimizing legal costs.The data sets Neal and his team feed ChatGPT to get the best results.How AI fuels his market research. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode:Neal Bawa on LinkedInNeal Bawa on InstagramNeal Bawa on FacebookNeal Bawa on YouTubeGrocapitusMultifamily UniversityMission10K Episode 5: Marketing with Neal BawaEpisode 116: Boosting Net Operating Income with PropTech with Neal BawaEpisode 185: Neal Bawa – Less Distress ChatGPTMicrosoft TeamsCoStar RealPage Yardi Asset Management Mastery Facebook GroupBreak of Day Capital Break of Day Capital InstagramBreak of Day Capital YouTubeGary Lipsky on LinkedInJoseph Fang on LinkedIn

Neal Bawa joins us today to discuss his journey into real estate, the multifamily yield curve, and growing market trends.----Continue the conversation with Brian on LinkedInJoin our multifamily investing community with like-minded apartment investors at the Tribe of TitansThis episode originally aired on April 25, 2025----Watch the episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcsYmSLMxQCA9hgt_PciN3g?sub_confirmation=1 Listen to us on your favorite podcast app:Apple Podcasts: https://tinyurl.com/AppleDiaryPodcast Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/SpotDiaryPodcast Google Podcasts: https://tinyurl.com/GoogleDiaryPodcast Follow us on:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/diary_of_an_apartment_investor Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DiaryAptInv/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/Diary_Apt_Inv ----Your host, Brian Briscoe, has owned over twenty apartment complexes worth hundreds of millions of dollars and is dedicated to helping aspiring apartment investors learn how to do the same. He founded the Tribe of Titans as his platform to educate aspiring apartment investors and is continually creating new content for the subscribers and coaching clients.He is the founder of Streamline Capital based in Salt Lake City, Utah, and is probably working on closing another apartment complex in the greater SLC area. He retired as a Lieutenant Colonel in the United States Marine Corps in 2021 after 20 years of service.Connect with him on LinkedIn----Neal BawaNeal Bawa is a technologist who is universally known in real estate circles as the Mad Scientist of Multifamily. Besides being one of the most in-demand speakers in commercial real estate, Neal is a data guru, a process freak, and an outsourcing expert. Neal treats his $660 million-dollar multifamily portfolio as an ongoing experiment in efficiency and optimization.The Mad Scientist lives by two mantras. His first mantra is, “We can only manage what we can measure”. His second mantra is that, “Data beats gut feel by a million miles“. These mantras and a dozen other disruptive beliefs drive profit for his 1000+ investors.Learn more about him at: https://multifamilyu.com/

What if you could predict how a housing market performs before buying there? This would allow you to invest only in the best areas across the US, putting money down where you know it will multiply and letting you get leagues ahead of the other investors. This is MORE than possible, but you'll need to know which metrics mean the most to an investing market. Neal Bawa has been doing this for years, building a huge real estate investing empire simply by looking at the data others often ignore. Today, he's giving you his exact strategy. Why should you NOT invest in your backyard? It may seem like the easiest place to start, but Neal says you could miss out on a massive upside by sticking to what is comfortable. As a data scientist, he puts the numbers before the hype, ditching cities that investors are flocking to and investing in those that only have the most solid fundamentals. He mentions one metric that makes a housing market grow or slow in rent prices, but which metric is it? Today, Neal is sharing the best markets across the US to invest in, why renters prefer one type of housing over others (it's not what you'd think), what Neal is buying NOW even with high interest rates and still (relatively) stubborn sellers, and why his six-metric formula is the key to predicting which markets will boom. In This Episode We Cover How to predict rent growth and home price growth in ANY market in America Multifamily vs. single-family rentals and why one hybrid is beating both Neal's top 2025 markets to invest in using his six-metric market formula Why Neal stopped making offers on apartments and started buying THIS instead Is local real estate investing hurting your returns? Here's why you may want to move your money And So Much More! Links from the Show Join the Future of Real Estate Investing with Fundrise Join BiggerPockets for FREE Sign Up for the On the Market Newsletter Find Investor-Friendly Lenders 13 Real Estate Hot Spots You Won't Want to Miss Next Year Neal's BiggerPockets Profile Multifamily University Grab the Book “Real Estate by the Numbers” Jump to topic: (0:00) Intro (3:00) DON'T Invest in Your Backyard? (6:34) This Metric Predicts Markets (14:35) Tenants Want THIS Most (22:26) Best Markets in America (24:30) What Neal's Buying NOW (33:52) Connect with Neal! Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and  https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/on-the-market-313 Interested in learning more about today's sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email advertise@biggerpockets.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Can AI transform real estate investing to rival the stock market? Join Neal Bawa & Jeannette Friedrich as they explore the profound impact of AI, fractional investments, and the revolutionary ChatGPT-4 Omni. This episode delves into innovative strategies set to reshape the liquidity and accessibility of real estate, quite possibly bringing an entire new era for investment opportunities. What You Will Learn: - Neal Bawa's unique cognitive approach to business and investment, leveraging his personal experiences and mathematical prowess. - The pivotal role of AI, particularly the newly released ChatGPT-4 Omni, in revolutionizing real estate investment to mirror the liquidity and accessibility of the stock market. - Neal's insights into the democratization of real estate through technology, regulatory changes, and the potential eradication of traditional barriers for investors. - Neal's major announcement about launching an AI-focused investment fund, set to capitalize on the latest advancements in AI technology. Why Listen: This episode is essential for anyone that prioritizes understanding current real estate trends, as well as the future of real estate investment and the transformative impact of AI. Neal's discussion about the launch of ChatGPT-4 Omni and its implications offers a rare glimpse into the future of tech-driven investment strategies. If you are an investor, tech enthusiast, or real estate professional, these insights will arm you with knowledge on where the industry is headed and how to leverage these changes for substantial growth. 00:00 The Future of Humanoid Robots 00:39 Exploring Real Estate Investment with Neal Bawa 02:09 Neal Bawa's Unique Background and Its Impact 02:36 The Mathematical Mind: Autistic Insights into Numbers 06:02 From Technology to Real Estate: Neal's Journey 09:36 Understanding Risk Through a Unique Lens 12:38 Envisioning Real Estate's Rivalry with the Stock Market 13:40 The Role of AI in Democratizing Real Estate Investments 21:25 The Future of Real Estate: Transparency and AI 25:51 The Evolution of AI in Rating and Real Estate Transparency 27:16 The Role of Technology and Regulation in Real Estate Innovation 28:27 The Future of Real Estate: Transparency and AI Integration 32:52 Regulatory Changes and the Path to Real Estate Democratization 37:52 The Revolutionary Potential of Multimodal AI 45:24 Personal Insights and Future Predictions 46:27 Life Hacks and Personal Endeavors 48:06 Connecting with Neal and His Ventures Are you REady2Scale Your Multifamily Investments? Learn more about growing your wealth, strengthening your portfolio, and scaling to the next level at www.bluelake-capital.com. To reach Ellie & her team, email them at info@bluelake-capital.com or complete our investor form at www.bluelake-capital.com/new-investor-form and they'll connect with you. Producer: Blue Lake Capital Strategist: Syed Mahmood Editor: Emma Walker Opening Music: Pomplamoose #AI #realestate #chatgptcourse *

Unlock the secrets to success in the 2025 real estate market. We'll break down the trends, opportunities, and potential pitfalls, giving you the tools to build a thriving portfolio.. Neal Bawa is a real estate investor who has a great story to share and words of wisdom to impart for both beginning and veteran investors alike, so grab your pen and paper, buckle up and enjoy the ride.Want to become financially free through commercial real estate? Check out our eBook to learn how to jump start a cash flowing real estate portfolio here https://www.therealestateinvestingclub.com/real-estate-wealth-book Enjoy the show? Subscribe to the channel for all our upcoming real estate investor interviews and episodes. ************************************************************************ GET INVOLVED, CONNECTED & GROW YOUR REAL ESTATE BUSINESS LEARN -- Want to learn the ins and outs of real estate investing? Check out our book at https://www.therealestateinvestingclub.com/real-estate-wealth-book PARTNER -- Want to partner on a deal or connect in person? Email the host Gabe Petersen at gabe@therealestateinvestingclub.com or reach out on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabe-petersen/ WATCH -- Want to watch our YouTube channel? Click here: https://bit.ly/theREIshow ************************************************************************  ABOUT THE REAL ESTATE INVESTING CLUB SHOW  Hear from successful real estate investors across every asset class on how they got started investing in real estate and then grew from their first deal to a portfolio of cash-flowing properties. We interview real estate pros from every asset class and learn what strategies they used to create generational wealth for themselves and their families. The REI Club is an interview-based real estate show that will teach you the fastest ways to start and grow your real estate investing career in today's market - from multifamily, to self-storage, to mobile home parks, to mix-use industrial, you'll hear it all! Join us as we delve into our guests career peaks and valleys and the best advice, greatest stories, and favorite tips they learned along the way. Want to create wealth for yourself using the vehicle of real estate? Getting mentorship is the fastest way to success. Get an REI mentor and check out our REI course at https://www.therealestateinvestingclub.com. #realestateinvesting #passiveincome #realestate  Send us a textInterested in becoming a passive investor in one of our projects? Kaizen Properties, is looking for passive investors for our upcoming deals. We invest in what are known as “recession resistant assets”: self storage, MH & RV parks, and industrial properties. If you are interested, go to the website and click on the “Invest with Us” button at the bottom of the page.Support the show

Real estate visionary Neal Bawa, CEO of Grocapitus and MultifamilyU, returns to the podcast. Neal always presents a compelling data-driven forecast that should capture every investor's attention. Despite current market uncertainties, Bawa reveals a significant 5-million-unit housing shortage alongside plummeting inflation rates, positioning the US as the strongest performer among developed economies. Most notably, he predicts a dramatic surge in both single and multi-family rent growth during 2026-27, driven by high interest rates creating supply gaps. With homeownership projected to decrease to 60% within a decade, the rental market is poised for unprecedented strength. This perfect storm of undersupply, shifting demographics, and economic conditions suggests a golden opportunity for strategic real estate investors, particularly in the multi-family sector, with promising rent growth anticipated as early as late 2025. Highlights/Topics: Hard data trumps market fear: why the numbers tell a different story US economy dominates globally as inflation drops from 6% to 2.4% Rising national wealth meets housing crisis: housing investment opportunity New construction wave promises better prices for entry-level housing market Five million unit shortage creates perfect storm for 2026-27 housing gap Massive rent increases predicted across all housing sectors in 2026-27 Historic shift: Homeownership dropping to 60%, rental demand soars nationwide Real estate investments outperform during global inflationary cycles and market shifts 2025 forecast: Interest rates and delinquencies reshape investment landscape ahead Strategic opportunity: Significant rent growth predicted for late 2025 market Visit multifamilyu.com to dive deeper into these insights! Resources: MultiFamily Website https://multifamilyu.com/ Schedule Your FREE Consultation https://andersonadvisors.com/strategy-session/?utm_source=predicting-2025-real-estate-trends&utm_medium=podcast Tax and Asset Protection Events https://andersonadvisors.com/real-estate-asset-protection-workshop-training/?utm_source=predicting-2025-real-estate-trends&utm_medium=podcast Anderson Advisors https://andersonadvisors.com/

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Is real estate shifting in a whole new direction? If you've been watching the market, you know homeownership is getting tougher—but here's the big opportunity no one's talking about: Build-to-Rent. In this episode, I sit down with Neal Bawa, the “Mad Scientist of Multifamily,” to break down why Build-to-Rent is the next big wave in real estate investing—and how you can get ahead of the curve. Whether you're an investor, entrepreneur, or just real estate-curious, this conversation is packed with insights that could change how you think about property investments. Hit play and let's dive in!

Get an inside look at how Neal Bawa, a commercial real estate visionary, uses advanced analytics to reshape traditional investment strategies. Discover his bold vision for a future where real estate competes with the stock market in terms of liquidity and size. Dive into our discussion about the revolutionary impact of technology on real estate, strategic market selection, and harnessing data to identify prime investment opportunities. Key Takeaways To Listen For The superiority of data over intuition in real estate investment Significant tax advantages of real estate investments Anecdote of leveraging existing assets and smart financing Unexpected emerging market opportunities How potential changes in governmental policies affect real estate Resources/Links Mentioned In This Episode Udemy The Miracle Morning by Hal Elrod Paperback and Kindle About Neal Bawa Neal Bawa is the CEO and Founder of UGro and Grocapitus, two commercial real estate investment firms managing a portfolio of over 4,800 units with a $1 billion AUM upon completion. Renowned for leveraging cutting-edge real estate analytics, Neal's innovative approach attracts data-driven investors. His free Real Estate Data Analytics course on Udemy has over 10,000 students and 1,000+ five-star reviews. Neal speaks at top real estate conferences, hosts webinars for 5,000+ investors annually, and leads popular boot camps. A visionary, Neal predicts Proptech and Fintech innovations will revolutionize commercial real estate, transforming it into a liquid, tradable asset class rivaling the stock market. Connect with Neal Website: UGRO | Grocapitus Investments | Multifamily University LinkedIn: Neal Bawa Facebook: Neal Bawa Instagram: @nealbawa TikTok: @nealbawa Connect With Us If you're looking to invest your hard-earned money into cash-flowing, value-add assets, reach out to us at https://bobocapitalventures.com/. Follow Keith's social media pages LinkedIn: Keith Borie Investor Club: Secret Passive Cashflow Investors Club Facebook: Keith Borie X: @BoboLlc80554

In this episode of "Keeping It Real Estate," we kick off our 'Best of 2024' series with a look back at the most influential discussions of the year. Tune in to hear from industry leaders like Nick Fluellen, who detailed the intricacies of the DFW multifamily market, and Neal Bawa, known as the 'Mad Scientist of Multifamily,' who provided a data-driven analysis of current market dynamics. We also revisit a memorable conversation with Brady McDonald, CEO of Barefoot Land Co., who shared how lessons from his experiences as an endurance athlete apply to business, relationships, and overcoming adversity. This compilation of insights from our most noteworthy episodes is an invaluable resource for anyone interested in commercial real estate, offering perspectives that promise to inspire and inform your investment strategies. Don't miss out as we continue the series in Part 2 next week! EP130 Nick Fluellen - Elevating Returns in Multifamily Transactions - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFJKyn6vQDE EP131 Neal Bawa - Biggest Opportunities in Real Estate 2024 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j62dhV_U5Bo EP135 Brady McDonald - The Power of Persistence - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLHB4s_9fWI Keeping it Real Estate is brought to you by Granite Towers Equity Group, helping investors create passive income through multifamily real estate. To get in touch with the founders of Granite Towers, Mike Roeder and Dan Brisse, visit https://www.granitetowersequitygroup.com/contact

Join us on the Property Profits Real Estate Podcast with Neal Bawa, as we dive deep into the world of real estate data with Neil Bawa, the "mad scientist of real estate data." Neal shares his expertise managing over 5,000 units and close to a billion dollars in assets, using data-driven strategies for successful investments. Discover actionable insights and strategies for navigating today's real estate market. Don't miss this enlightening conversation!   ================================== Want to grow your real estate investing business and portfolio?  You're in the right place. Welcome to the Property Profits Real Estate Podcast

Today, on the last day of 2024, we're taking a look back at some of the Best Ever clips from the past year. Today, we're bringing you Part II of our two-part Best of 2024 recap. In this episode, Andy Weiner invests where nobody else wants to, Rachael Jones survives a nightmare deal, Neal Bawa is land squatting, and Don Wenner teaches us how to scale. Listen to their full episodes from 2024 below: Andy Weiner — JF3675: The Secret Sauce Behind the Boring, High-Cash Flow Sector Most Investors Avoid Rachael Jones — JF3624: What Really Happens After an Apartment Complex Fire Neal Bawa — JF3645: The Biggest Opportunity Nobody's Talking About, the Truth About Pref Equity, and Why CRE Has Officially Bottomed Out Don Wenner — $5 Billion in Deals, Building Thriving Communities, and the Goal of 1 Million Affordable Homes Also, visit besteverconference.com and use the promo code podcast25 at checkout to receive 25% off your ticket Sponsors: Altra Running Sunrise Capital Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We're excited to welcome the “Mad Scientist of Multifamily” Neal Bawa back on the show for the 2024 market updates, particularly on the multifamily space! Listen in to Neal's data-based approach in this episode!Key Points & Relevant TopicsThe current state of the economy and multifamily marketHow the current trends affect the major real estate marketsNeal's perspectives and data points on distressed markets and distressed propertiesDoes the distress in the market affect the multifamily space?How people can continue to thrive and find opportunities in real estate despite the challenges in the marketThe impact of immigration on rent and housing supply in the USWhy it's a good idea to buy land in today's marketNeal's insight on the investors' sentiments about the real estate marketThe future of real estate Resources & LinksTo get the latest updates on Neal's webinars, visit https://multifamilyu.com/ to learn how to join.Apartment Syndication Due Diligence Checklist for Passive InvestorAbout Neal BawaNeal Bawa is CEO / Founder at UGro and Grocapitus, two commercial real estate investment companies. Neal's companies use cutting edge real estate analytics technology to source and acquire OR build large Commercial properties across the U.S., for over 900 investors. Current portfolio over 4,800 units, with an AUM value (upon completion) of over $1 Billion.  Neal shares his team's unique and cutting-edge real estate data methodologies to connect with geeky and nerdy (or just data driven) investors who share his vision - That Data beats gut feel by a million miles. Over 10,000 real estate investors have taken his free Real Estate Data Analytics course on udemy.com and the course has over 1,000 five-star reviews.  Neal speaks at dozens of real estate conferences across the country and virtually, on the Internet. Over 5,000 investors attend his multifamily webinar series each year and hundreds have attended his Magic of Multifamily boot camps. His facebook and meetup groups have tens of thousands of investors.  Neal believes that we are at a turning point, where traditional commercial real estate will combine with Proptech and Fintech technology disruptors, and will truly reach its potential as a tradable, highly liquid asset class that will rival and eventually beat the stock market in its size and scope. Get in Touch with NealWebsite: https://grocapitus.com/ / https://ugronow.com/ To Connect With UsPlease visit our website www.bonavestcapital.com and click here to leave a rating and written review!

Welcome to a deep dive into the latest episode of the Raising Private Money podcast featuring Neal Bawa, a visionary in the realm of commercial real estate. This episode uncovers the methods and philosophies that have made Neal Bawa a noteworthy figure in the industry. Sitting down with Jay Conner, Neal shares invaluable insights on how to leverage data analytics, technological advancements, and genuine brand-building to elevate your real estate investment game.Transforming Real Estate with Data-Driven InsightsNeal Bawa's Remarkable Achievements: Neal Bawa, CEO and founder of two commercial real estate investment companies, is not your typical real estate mogul. With a background in computer science, Neal has seamlessly merged technology with traditional real estate practices. His pioneering use of real estate analytics has facilitated the acquisition and development of commercial properties across the United States. Under his leadership, these companies have raised an astounding $325 million from over 1,000 private lenders and investors, managing a portfolio boasting over 4,400 units.Neal's commitment to education is evident. With a top-rated free real estate data analytics course on Udemy, boasting over 1,000 five-star reviews, and an expansive reach with over 10,000 participants, Neal has democratized real estate knowledge. His multifamily webinar series also attracts over 5,000 annual attendees, further solidifying his reputation as an industry thought leader.The Vision: PropTech and FinTech InnovationsNeal Bawa's Forward-Thinking Vision: Neal envisions a future where real estate, augmented by PropTech and FinTech innovations, becomes a tradable, highly liquid asset class competitive with the stock market. This futuristic outlook isn't just theoretical; it's grounded in his vast experience and success. Neal believes that leveraging technology for data-driven decision-making is key to realizing this vision, enabling more informed and efficient investment decisions.Strategies for Raising Private MoneyBuilding an Authentic Brand: Neal and Jay Conner discuss the intricacies of raising private money, emphasizing the importance of building an authentic brand. Neal's success is a testament to this approach, where genuine engagement and transparent communication trump high-pressure tactics. In a region like Silicon Valley, a data-focused, authentic brand is especially effective.Neal shares an illustrative example of how he uses newsletters to provide real estate insights. By sharing an analysis report from Local Market Monitor on social media, Neal builds his data-driven brand, attracting investors who appreciate his expertise and candor.Technological Mastery in Real Estate InvestmentLeveraging AI and Automation: Neal's strategies go beyond traditional methods. By integrating advanced technologies like artificial intelligence and automation into business operations, Neal has created an efficient, high-functioning system. For instance, his use of ChatGPT and Perplexity aids in content creation and organization, significantly boosting productivity. Neal's ability to manage a substantial workload with just 27-28 work hours per week, supported by four full-time executive assistants, is a testament to the power of leveraging technology.Optimizing Property ManagementGrow Capitas: The Value Add Approach: Neal Bawa's company, Grow Capitas, is dedicated to acquiring and improving multifamily properties rather than engaging in new construction. Neal's approach involves a comprehensive optimization strategy employing a team in the Philippines and utilizing over 600 systems and processes. This ensures high tenancy satisfaction and financial efficiency, aiming for a 97-98% occupancy rate. Neal believes in long-term projects, focusing on sustainable improvements over typical five-year periods.

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ABOUT NEAL BAWANeal Bawa is CEO / Founder at Grocapitus and Mission 10K, two commercial real estate investment companies. Neal's companies use cutting-edge real estate analytics technology to source and acquire OR build large Commercial properties across the U.S., for over 1,000 investors. Neal shares his team's unique and cutting-edge real estate data methodologies to connect with geeky and nerdy (or just data-driven) investors who share his vision – that data beats gut feel by a million miles. Over 10,000 real estate investors have taken his free Real Estate Data Analytics course on udemy.com and the course has over 1,000 five-star reviews. Neal speaks at dozens of real estate conferences across the country and virtually online. Neal believes that we are at a turning point, where traditional commercial real estate will combine with Proptech and Fintech technology disruptors, and will truly reach its potential as a tradable, highly liquid asset class that will rival and eventually beat the stock market in its size and scope.   THIS TOPIC IN A NUTSHELL: Neal as the “mad scientist” of real estateHow Grocapitus startedWhat is mission 10k?Acquisition and Development Challenges of interest rates spikeHis Insight on the real estate market in the next two years How to Forecast Housing Demand and Supply Knowing the different markets to investEffect of the spike of interest rates on DevelopmentFED's role in rates and impact on the economyAbout the Super Value Add Deal Location, metrics, and what they like about the propertyRaising capital Value Add Implementation and ReturnsChallenges encountered along the wayConnect with Neal   KEY QUOTE: “A lot of times you'll find opportunity in a deal, but you have to be able to follow through and solve challenges. You constantly try to look for solutions to every problem. That is the true value we created there.”    SUMMARY OF BUSINESS: Grocapitus Investments is a very fast-growing Multifamily Real Estate Investment company based in Fremont, CA. Grocapitus sources, acquires, manages, and develops large Multifamily, Build-to-Rent, and Fourplex communities in many states across the U.S. We help people become financially free by investing in apartment buildings, student housing and self-storage properties in high-quality markets nationwide. We also build best in class new construction multiplexes and student housing.   ABOUT THE WESTSIDE INVESTORS NETWORK   The Westside Investors Network is your community for investing knowledge for growth. For real estate professionals by real estate professionals. This show is focused on the next step in your career... investing, for those starting with nothing to multifamily syndication.     The Westside Investors Network strives to bring knowledge and education to real estate professionals that is seeking to gain more freedom in their life. The host AJ and Chris Shepard, are committed to sharing the wealth of knowledge that they have gained throughout the years to allow others the opportunity to learn and grow in their investing. They own Uptown Properties, a successful Property Management, and Brokerage Company. If you are interested in Property Management in the Portland Metro or Bend Metro Areas, please visit www.uptownpm.com. If you are interested in investing in multifamily syndication, please visit www.uptownsyndication.com.    #RealEstateInvesting #RealEstate #Syndication #AparmentInvesting #MultifamilyPortfolio #AssetManagement #MultifamilyInvestment #CommercialRealEstate #CashFlowing #PropertyManagement #MarketShift #DownTurn #Acquisitions #AssetUnderManagement #MarketInsights #MarketPrediction #DataAnalytics #DataDriven #RealEstateDataAnalytics #DataMethodologies #MadScientist #MadScientistOfMultifamily #DataGuru #RaisingCapital #RealEstateInvestment #RentalProperty #PassiveWealth #WealthBuilder #InvestmentInsights #JoinTheWINpod #WestsideInvestorsNetwork CONNECT WITH NEAL:Website: https://multifamilyu.comGrocapitus Investments: https://grocapitus.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/neal-bawa    CONNECT WITH US   For more information about investing with AJ and Chris:  ·    Uptown Syndication | https://www.uptownsyndication.com/  ·    LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/company/71673294/admin/   For information on Portland Property Management:  ·    Uptown Properties | http://www.uptownpm.com  ·    Youtube | @UptownProperties     Westside Investors Network  ·    Website | https://www.westsideinvestorsnetwork.com/  ·    Twitter | https://twitter.com/WIN_pdx  ·    Instagram | @westsideinvestorsnetwork  ·    LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/groups/13949165/  ·    Facebook | @WestsideInvestorsNetwork  ·    Tiktok| @WestsideInvestorsNetwork  ·    Youtube | @WestsideInvestorsNetwork  

The multifamily market is sending clear signals that a massive opportunity is coming… And today's guest, Neal Bawa, has the data to prove it. Neal manages over $700M in multifamily assets and is one of the most data-driven operators I know. He's figured out a way to predict exactly where the market is heading over the next 24 months... ...and in today's episode, he's sharing his playbook with us. Neal is known as "The Mad Scientist of Multifamily" and has over 1,000 investors in his portfolio. In today's episode, he breaks down: The hidden indicator that predicts rent growth 24 months in advance Why multifamily prices are down 25-30% from peak (and what happens next) How to time your acquisitions with upcoming Fed rate cuts The surprising shift happening between Class A and Class B rentals Plus, he shares the exact data source he uses to predict market cycles (and it's completely FREE)... If you want to position yourself ahead of the coming wave of opportunity in multifamily... Take Control, Hunter Thompson Resources mentioned in the episode: Neal Bawa Website Previous episode mentioned Interested in learning how to take your capital raising game to the next level? Meet us at Capital Raiser's Edge. Learn more here: https://raisingcapital.com/cre

We'd love to hear from you. What are your thoughts and questions?In this episode of Real Estate Investing Abundance, host Dr. Allen Lomax welcomes back Neal Bawa, a renowned expert in multifamily real estate. They discuss the current state of the real estate market, focusing on inflation trends, interest rate predictions, and the implications for multifamily investments. Neil shares insights on the Federal Reserve's approach to managing inflation and interest rates, the future of bridge loans, and the dynamics of cap rates. The conversation also touches on global economic challenges and potential inflation risks stemming from geopolitical tensions.Main Points:Neal Bawa emphasizes the importance of data in real estate investing.The multifamily market has seen a significant decline in prices.The Federal Reserve is shifting its stance on interest rates.Expect two quarter point interest rate cuts this year.Bridge loans may become more favorable for investors next year.Cap rates are projected to peak in Q1 of next year.The lowest property prices are expected in the coming months.Geopolitical conflicts pose significant risks to the economy.Inflation could rise due to oil price fluctuations.The current world order is undergoing significant changes.Connect With Neal Bawa: https://www.linkedin.com/in/neal-bawa/http://www.grocapitus.com

In this episode of the Building Wealth Through Commercial Real Estate Podcast, we sit down with the legendary Neal Bawa, CEO and Founder of UGro and Grocapitus. With a portfolio of over 4,800 units and an AUM exceeding $1 billion, Neal is a true visionary in the commercial real estate space. He shares the innovative data-driven methodologies that have propelled his companies to the forefront of the industry, helping over 900 investors achieve significant returns.Neal dives deep into how his team leverages cutting-edge real estate analytics technology to source, acquire, and build large commercial properties across the U.S. He discusses the importance of data over gut feeling in making investment decisions and explains how his approach is attracting a growing community of data-savvy investors.With over 10,000 students taking his Real Estate Data Analytics course on Udemy and thousands attending his webinars and boot camps, Neal is on a mission to educate and empower investors. Tune in to hear his predictions on the future of commercial real estate, the impact of Proptech and Fintech, and why he believes this asset class will eventually outgrow the stock market.This is a must-listen episode for anyone interested in the future of real estate investing!In this episode, we discussed:Neal's journey in real estateTips for multi-family investingUnderstanding the marketHow problems create opportunityThe impact of Proptech and FintechCONNECT WITH NEAL:WebsiteEmail: neal@grocapitus.com(415) 326-8878CONNECT WITH JONATHANTo connect with Jonathan, you can send an email to info@greystonecapgroup.com or schedule a time to chat.To learn more about real estate investment opportunities, join the Greystone Capital Investor Network.Thanks for listening and until next time!

Neil Bawa discusses the changes in the syndication industry over the past 18 months and how his business has adapted. He highlights the use of preferential equity as a great opportunity for investors, offering better returns and lower risk compared to traditional equity investments. He also explains the concept of preferential equity and how it can be used to refinance properties and stabilize cash flow. Bawa emphasizes the importance of risk mitigation and the need to find good preferential equity deals. Sponsors: Passive Investing Mastery Apartments.com Bam Capital

In this episode, Toby Mathis of Anderson Business Advisors welcomes Neal Bawa back to the show for another eye-opening appearance. Neal is the founder and CEO of Grocapitus, a commercial real estate investment company, and CEO of MultifamilyU, an apartment investing education company. Neal reports some jaw-dropping stats: 18 million families are priced out of homeownership due to salary versus mortgage disparities. Landlords are poised with a peak supply of 673,000 apartments in 2024, but the market will experience a shortage and price hikes in 2025-2026. The Federal Reserve's interest rate policies aim to balance inflation and affordability concerns, potentially influencing market dynamics. Investors are advised to target multifamily properties and land purchases, focusing on 5-unit properties over smaller units and considering assumable loans for strategic advantages in the current market landscape. Highlights/Topics: Market progress since Covid Increases - Salaries vs. Mortgages 18 million families have been priced out of home ownership Opportunities for landlords - supply is peaking - 673,000 apartments in 2024 2025-2026 will see extreme apartment shortages and price hikes Interest rates and the Fed Inflation vs. rate cuts, affordability may improve Possible zig-zagging market price fluctuations What should investors do “right now”? Current advantages in the multi-family market, land purchases Why you should be looking at 5-unit properties, not 1-4 units Look for assumable loans Time is your friend in today's market Resources: Gro Capitus Website https://www.grocapitus.com/ MultiFamily Website https://multifamilyu.com/ Watch Neal Bawa “Feds Broke the Bank- Is Real Estate Safe?” March 2023 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-zObxj7NPk Anderson Advisors https://andersonadvisors.com/ Anderson Advisors on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaL-wApuVYi2Va5dWzyTYVw Anderson Advisors Podcast https://andersonadvisors.com/podcast/ Clint Coons YouTube   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5GX-U6VbvMkhSM1ONBiW8w  

Neal Bawa, CEO & Founder of UGro and Grocapitus, explores the latest market trends, the repercussions of recent economic changes, and the future landscape and opportunities of multifamily investing. Connect with Ben Fraser on LinkedIn ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/benwfraser/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Connect with Neal Bawa on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/neal-bawa/⁠ Access our FREE training on How to Invest in Private Credit: ⁠https://www.privatecreditmasterclass.com/sign-up⁠ Access our FREE Economic Report: ⁠https://www.investwithaspen.com/free-economic-report⁠ This podcast is sponsored by Aspen Funds which focuses on Private Credit, Industrial Real Estate, and Oil and Gas offerings for accredited investors: ⁠https://aspenfunds.us/⁠ Follow Aspen Funds LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/aspen-funds/ Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/aspenfunds/⁠⁠⁠

Send us a Text Message.We're ditching the gut feeling BS and bringing on the data wiz Neal Bawa, aka the "mad scientist of multifamily." ‍Neal's got the low-down on using cutting-edge tools like ChatGPT to crush the market. Think of it like having a real estate superpower We'll be diving deep into booming cities like Austin, Phoenix, and Dallas, all fueled by Neal's data-driven insights.Worried about inflation and the whole economic rollercoaster ride? Don't sweat it. We'll break down the Fed's latest moves, explore how crazy debt might impact things (think beyond the US!), and even compare notes with other countries. Basically, we'll give you the info you need to navigate the financial storm and find those long-term investment wins.But wait, there's more! We're also tackling the housing affordability crisis head-on. Is it all about supply and demand? Are stagnant wages the real culprit? We'll explore innovative solutions from companies and initiatives shaking things up. Disrupt Equity, Mission 10K - these are the names you need to know.Neal will then be back to drop some serious knowledge bombs on multifamily investing and his data-driven approach. Think webinars, speaking gigs, the whole shebang.CONNECT WITH NEAL!www.instagram.com/nealbawa/https://multifamilyu.comhttps://grocapitus.com/assessment/This episode is brought to you by Premier Ridge Capital.Sign Up for our Newsletter and get our FREE E-Book where you'll learn everything you need to know about creating financial freedom through multifamily syndication.Visit www.premierridgecapital.com now! Introducing the 60 Day Deal Finder!Visit: www.MartinREIMastery.comUse the Coupon Code: WEALTHYAFfor 20% off! This episode is brought to you by Premier Ridge Capital.Build Generational Wealth As A Passive Investor In Multifamily Real Estate Syndication!Visit www.premierridgecapital.com to find out more.Support the Show.