Podcasts about multifamily investing

How do you go from buying a $7,500 lot at 17 years old to owning over 1,400 apartment units? In this episode of the Global Investors Podcast, Paul Montelongo shares how he transitioned from single-family flips and a marina resort to building a large multifamily portfolio across multiple markets — and why mastering capital raising changed everything. Paul breaks down: • How he scaled from residential flips to 1,400+ units • Why workforce housing outperforms in uncertain markets • The biggest mistake most real estate investors make • How he structures asset management and third-party property management • Why data centers may be the next major real estate opportunity • The power of treating real estate like an operating business If you're serious about multifamily investing, capital raising, and building scalable real estate businesses, this episode is packed with high-level strategy. Learn More About Paul Here: Montelongo Capital - https://www.montelongocapital.com/ Connect with the Global Investors Show, Charles Carillo and Harborside Partners: ◾ Setup a FREE 30 Minute Strategy Call with Charles: http://ScheduleCharles.com ◾ Learn How To Invest In Real Estate: https://www.SyndicationSuperstars.com/  ◾ FREE Passive Investing Guide: http://www.HSPguide.com ◾ Join Our Weekly Email Newsletter: http://www.HSPsignup.com ◾ Passively Invest in Real Estate: http://www.InvestHSP.com ◾ Global Investors Web Page: http://GlobalInvestorsPodcast.com/  

Discover why multifamily real estate has become the new retirement plan for everyday investors—and how redefining risk is the first step toward building a stable, predictable financial future.

Aaron sits down with Chris Hatch, CEO of Forza Commercial, for a wide-ranging conversation on growing up in a multi-generational real estate family, surviving 2008 and COVID as a developer, and why resilience—not timing—is the real competitive advantage in commercial real estate. Chris shares how his grandfather's early build-to-suits for brands like Arby's shaped his long-term perspective, how a two-year mission trip to New Jersey forged the discipline that later powered his brokerage career, and why walking every fast-food bathroom in a market might be the best education a young broker can get. From flipping U-turns on property tours to sourcing transformers through WhatsApp during supply chain chaos, this episode is packed with hard-earned lessons from nearly 100 closed deals—and counting.Key Takeaways:• Resilience is built before you need it—early discipline compounds in business• 2008 created fear; 2020–2023 created chaos—both shape smarter operators• Development without stability in capital markets is a different sport• Leasing and redevelopment are not the same as ground-up risk• The best education in retail real estate comes from walking sites, not reading reports• Mentorship shortens the learning curve—but only if you do the reps• Stability—not politics—is what capital markets craveKey Timestamps:(00:00:00) – Growing Up in a Multi-Generational Real Estate Family(00:02:30) – ADHD, Athletics, and the Competitive Edge(00:06:55) – Two Years in New Jersey: Discipline and Drive(00:12:00) – Why Brokerage Was the Starting Point(00:18:00) – Pivoting During the 2008 Financial Crisis(00:20:00) – First Acquisition and the Arby's Deal(00:23:30) – Launching Forza Development in 2020(00:25:00) – COVID, Supply Chain Chaos, and Building Through Crisis(00:33:00) – The Burrito That Became a Dutch Bros Deal(00:36:30) – Advice for Young Brokers and DevelopersKey Topics Discussed:Commercial Real Estate Podcast, Private Equity Podcast, Franchising Podcast, Commercial Real Estate Investing, Real Estate Private Equity, Franchise Ownership, Real Estate Syndication, Capital Raising for Real Estate, Private Equity Fund Structure, Commercial Real Estate Development, Multifamily Investing, Alternative Investments, Breaking Into Commercial Real Estate, Private Equity Career Path, Franchise Growth Strategy, Investment Firm Leadership, Wealth Building Through Real Estate, Real Estate Asset Management, Institutional Real Estate Investing, CEO Interview Podcast, Limitless, Aaron Zucker, Retail Development, Net Lease Investing, Drive-Thru Real Estate, QSR Development, Build-to-Suit, Brokerage Mentorship, Multi-Generational Wealth, Commercial Real Estate Cycles, 2008 Financial Crisis, COVID Supply Chain, Ground-Up Development, Value-Add Retail, Mountain State Real Estate, Capital Markets Stability, Tenant Representation, Franchise Growth, Real Estate Resilience, Leadership Through Crisis, Developer Mindset, Market Cycles, Entrepreneurial Grit, Discipline and Performance, Commercial Property Management, Forza Commercial, Chris Hatch, Limitless Podcast, Aaron ZuckerMentions:Chris's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-hatch-5b100711/Mentions: The Dirt Dog PodMore of Limitless:Web: zuckerinvestmentgroup.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaron-zucker-zig/IG: @zuckerinvestmentgroupX: @ZIG_CRE

In this episode of the Real Estate Pros podcast, host Michelle Kesil interviews Dan Brisse of Granite Towers Equity Group. Dan shares his journey from aspiring professional snowboarder to successful multifamily real estate investor. He discusses the importance of passive income, hedging against inflation, and utilizing depreciation to build wealth. Through case studies of successful investments, Dan illustrates how strategic real estate investing can lead to financial freedom. He also highlights opportunities for potential investors to partner with his firm.   Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind:  Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply   Investor Machine Marketing Partnership:  Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com   Coaching with Mike Hambright:  Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike   Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat   Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform!  Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/   New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club   —--------------------

In this conversation, Andrew Freed shares his journey from a corporate job to becoming a successful real estate investor in Worcester, Massachusetts. He discusses the multifamily market in Worcester, his strategies for investing, and the importance of mentorship. Andrew also addresses the current state of the real estate market, particularly in New England, and offers advice for new investors looking to get started in real estate.   Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind:  Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply   Investor Machine Marketing Partnership:  Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com   Coaching with Mike Hambright:  Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike   Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat   Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform!  Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/   New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club   —--------------------

When your corporate job feels "secure" until it suddenly isn't, real estate can become the Plan B that turns into your best move…  In this episode of the #DoorGrowShow, DoorGrow founder Jason Hull sits down with John Casmon (multifamily syndicator, host of Multifamily Insights, and co-creator of the Midwest Real Estate Networking Summit) to break down how corporate professionals can transition into multifamily investing without becoming a stressed-out landlord. They dive into how John went from corporate bankruptcies to building a multifamily portfolio, what passive investors actually need to know before putting money into a deal, and why trust + clear expectations matter just as much as the numbers.  Jason and John also unpack what this means for property managers: how to align with investor goals, why the best operators project calm control (even in chaos), where syndicators hang out, and how PMs can position themselves to win more multifamily doors.    You'll Learn (00:00) Transforming Property Management: An Introduction  (00:59) John Casmon's Entrepreneurial Journey  (02:56) Transitioning to Multifamily Investing  (04:33) Understanding Investor Types and Property Management  (05:48) The Role of Property Managers  (07:49) Investor Control vs. Trust in Management  (09:33) Challenges in Property Management  (11:17) Aligning Goals with Property Managers  (14:19) The Real Product of Property Management  (17:14) Managing Investor Expectations  (19:50) Syndication: A New Avenue for Property Managers  (23:44) Legal Considerations in Syndication  (26:41) Calmness in Chaos: The Key to Success  (31:40) Partnering with Syndications  (33:54 The Role of Property Management in Syndication  (38:29) Finding Syndicators and Building Relationships  (42:24) Understanding Passive Investment in Syndication  (47:45) Identifying Your Investment Goals  (51:54) Assessing Risk in Real Estate Investments  (55:15) Choosing the Right Market for Investment  (01:00:12) The Three C's of Raising Capital Quotables "The first C is confidence. Confidence comes from preparation." "The investment itself, we got to go out there and execute. But that investor psyche is a completely different game."  "It is not your job to hope. Your job is to analyze the information in front of you and make an informed decision." Resources DoorGrow and Scale Mastermind DoorGrow Academy DoorGrow on YouTube DoorGrowClub DoorGrowLive Transcript Jason Hull (00:01) All right, five, four, three, two, one. All right, I'm Jason Hull, the founder and CEO of DoorGrow, the world's leading and most comprehensive coaching and consulting firm for long-term residential property management entrepreneurs. And for over a decade and a half, we have brought innovative strategies and optimization to the property management industry. At DoorGrow, we are on a mission to transform property management business owners and their businesses.   We want to transform the industry, eliminate the BS, build awareness, change perception, expand the market and help the best property management entrepreneurs win. Now let's get into the show. So my guest today, I'm hanging out here with John Casman, a multifamily syndicator, host of the multifamily insights podcast and the co-creator of the Midwest real estate networking summit. And in today's episode, John's going to break down how corporate professionals can transition.   into multifamily investing, how to find the best markets, how to raise capital effectively, and what separates successful operators from everyone else. John, welcome to the DoorGrowth Show.   John Casmon (01:10) Yeah, Jason, thank you for having me. I'm really excited to be here. Love the intro, your intro, not my intro, ⁓ but excited to be here and share as much as we can on our journey to help all of your listeners reach their goals.   Jason Hull (01:22) Cool. So John, ⁓ it's great to have you. I would love for people to hear about your entrepreneurial journey. How did you get to where you are now? And then we can get into your business.   John Casmon (01:34) Well, the short answer is bankruptcy, right? I worked for a couple of different companies that went through bankruptcy and that really made me consider my other options. You know, I was at General Motors back in 2007, 2008, 2009 when we went through bankruptcy and I was there and I watched what that did to a lot of my peers. I one day in particular when we were going to have a lot of layoffs, I went to work as late as I could. But when I got there, I had a red message, a little red dial on your phone.   for anybody who's worked in corporate and remember voicemails. So I had a red dot on my phone, picked it up, pushed the play button and my heart skipped a beat because I thought maybe I was getting to the can, right? And it was actually a colleague of mine who sat kind of kitty corner in front of me and he had been let go. He, you know, was diabetic. He didn't know I was going to pay for his medication. He just was venting in his voicemail. And I just remember feeling empathy for him, but also   a sense of I just never wanted to be in that situation. So it made me really start to think about Plan B. Eventually I moved to Chicago, realized real estate was going to be that path and learned everything I could about investing. So it kind of took me down that pathway to say, you know what, I need a Plan B because no matter what you do, when you work in corporate America, you do not control your future. You know, there's politics, there's policy, there's a lot of different things involved that you do not control.   And sometimes it does just come down to someone not liking you for whatever reason, or they think you're a threat. And I didn't want to spend the rest of my career navigating those issues. So I figured I had to take more into my own hands.   Jason Hull (03:16) got it. And so you start taking things in your own hands and what was the result?   John Casmon (03:20) Yes. So we landed on multifamily investing, started with small multifamily. My first investment was a two unit building. We house hacked it, which is a common popular phrase now. But back then it wasn't quite as common. But we lived upstairs. We rented out the first floor unit and it worked great. You know, it worked so great that we went to refinance and we had created enough equity in that first investment to pull out a six figure line of credit and go out and buy another property. So.   Jason Hull (03:45) Nice.   John Casmon (03:47) That really got the ball rolling. bought a three unit building, we bought an eight unit building, and at this time I'm still working in advertising, still working in corporate America, and I enjoyed what I was doing, and I just had my second child, but the agency I was working for also went through bankruptcy right at this time. We had expanded, we were growing, and we had kind of combined with a few other agencies and kind of became this little conglomerate, and it just eroded just as quickly as it grew.   I remember again, just sitting there and I've got some real estate. I've got a little bit of cashflow, but not enough to pay all my bills. New baby. And I just realized this real estate thing is working, but the exact strategy I'm employing doesn't allow me to insulate myself from these economic changes and shifts. So I had to change my strategy and that led me to syndication. Since then, we've acquired over $150 million worth of apartments.   We've partnered with busy professionals to buy these properties and give them some passive income. And that's what we've been doing ever since.   Jason Hull (04:50) Got it. So your area of genius really is helping these people that were similar to you, they're in the corporate environment transition into being an investor in real estate.   John Casmon (05:01) Yeah, exactly. And I would say too, it doesn't have to be you're going to quit your job and do this full time. And in fact, most people don't, you know, but most people do want a little bit more control over their life. You want a little bit more flexibility. You want to earn and start building up, you know, your net worth. You want to have a little bit more liquidity. You have to look at your investments to say, what should you be doing? I think most people know that their 401k, their, you know, company issued life insurance.   probably not enough to really get you on the fast track to retirement. So what else could you do? Certainly you can invest in the stock market. Lots of folks do that. But real estate is a proven vehicle. The challenge is, I don't know anyone who really wants to be a landlord, right? ⁓ Certainly you want the benefits of real estate investing, but very few of us want to get those 2 a.m. phone calls. So the shortcut there is, ⁓ hire a property manager. Great solution. But now you have to be able to manage   property managers, right, which is this whole other business. And if you don't have enough scale, then it's hard to get that person really focused on your business. So we offer an alternative, right? You get all the benefits of real estate investing, all the ownership perks without any of the headaches of being the landlord yourself. So it really is a great marriage of being in real estate without having to do the heavy lifting yourself.   Jason Hull (06:15) Okay.   Okay, so ⁓ the target audience of this show are property managers. So if they're not gonna use property managers, then what's the alternative? How does this work?   John Casmon (06:29) Well,   first of all, what we do is not always for that individual. So I think that's the key, right? You've got to understand who you are from a psychological standpoint. So when it comes to investors, there's two types of investors. One wants control, right? They're not willing to be passive. And some people think they want to be passive until they're in a passive situation and then they're calling and they want to know why you did this and why you did that and how come you did do that. That's not a passive investor. And that's fun.   Jason Hull (06:45) Yeah.   Yeah, they're anxious. Yeah. Yeah.   John Casmon (06:58) And   if that's you, you should be active, right? And you should work with a property manager, but you also want to work with the property manager who is going to be right for you, right? Because sometimes that is not how they operate. So you want to understand that. And that's a process to understand who you are as an investor, what kind of investment strategy fits you and what's going to be right there. When it comes to property managers, though, I think there are a couple of things. And as a matter of fact, we just left out of meeting with   property management company yesterday. They have 2000 units. We talked about some other services that we offer. And one of things that stood out to me was just understanding some of the challenges that property managers face. And one of them is property managers are really in a position to think like everyone. They're supposed to think like an investor. They're supposed to understand maintenance and kind of the construction arm enough to understand what needs to happen at a property. But they are really little CEOs, right? Because for   Our stuff, the large apartment stuff, those are typically million dollar annual revenue businesses. And this person is in charge of that asset of that business. They are making the day to day decisions. They are the face for the residents, aka the customers of that business. They are the face and their experience with that individual is how they view that business. So it really is an important role. And if you're working with property managers, it's really important to understand how to find the right people.   to connect with them and have them represent your business, your brand, company in the right light.   Jason Hull (08:30) So now you left an open loop that I want to close. So you said there's two types of investors, those that want control and maybe should go find a property manager, you said. And then what's the other type?   John Casmon (08:34) Yeah.   The other type is those who don't want control and they trust someone else to handle that. And for them, there are a couple of different ways of investing. One is investing passively with a group like ours. The other is turnkey investing where again, you hire a property manager, but you really entrust them to manage the property. The only thing I would say for either one of those groups, myself included, is you want to trust but verify. Okay. You've got to do a lot of your due diligence upfront. You want to understand how they operate. You want to talk to   some of their other clients, some of their other investors, because you need to get a really good sense of what to expect. And a lot of people are great at selling themselves upfront, right? I can tell you everything you want to hear upfront. You want to know what is it like once you sign the paperwork? How often are we going to talk? How frequently am I going to get updates? And at what point am I able to weigh in and make decisions? Because if, if you are someone who wants to be more active or be heard, or you've got thoughts and opinions,   Jason Hull (09:18) yeah.   John Casmon (09:35) You want to make sure you have a voice in your investment. Otherwise you may get really disappointed or you may bring on someone who has a different perspective of what that relationship looks like and that never is going to work out.   Jason Hull (09:47) Yeah, there's a big challenge in the industry and that's that most property management companies suck. so most investors that have dealt with property management to some degree are they have some scar tissue, they've been burned a little bit. They've a lot of property managers that started their businesses that come to me for help to grow their business. They started because they were investor and they couldn't find anyone else to manage the property good enough. And that's why they started their business, but it can be a difficult business to run. so none of them start their business saying, I want to suck.   But that's kind of the default unless they get some really good support or figure some things out through a lot of trial and error. And so that's where DoorGrow comes in. We help them with that. But one of the things I coach my clients on a lot is that they need to shift into being daddy over these rental properties. They need to like tell the owner, hey, you need to trust me. And they need to be able to have a really effective business so that they can lean into that trust.   because a lot of people are anxious. They'll come to them with concerns, but generally if a property manager is good, they're much better at this investing stuff than most investors. And they're much better at coordinating maintenance. They're much better at handling leasing. And so when an owner tries to micromanage a property manager, it kind of doesn't make sense to hire somebody to manage your asset just so you can manage them to do the job. And so I think the secret is finding a really good property manager that you can   let go of control because you can trust them. And but yes, you need to verify that they can do the job that you need them to do. And so a good property manager will take ownership of it and they'll take control and they will, they'll display a lot of certainty and confidence in how they communicate and they won't allow you to micromanage them is what I've seen. So.   John Casmon (11:37) Yeah, Jason, and I'll add to it. There's a two way street there. And I think it's easy for people to say, ⁓ most property managers suck or they're not good or whatever. And listen, there's certainly a lot of challenges there. A lot of folks who are not living up to par to the standards. But I will go back to this. We ask property managers to do the work of generally like a CEO. Right. I mean, again, they're managing million dollar businesses in many cases, yet they don't have that training. They don't have that experience. They don't have the ability to navigate.   all of these various things. So part of what owners and investors need to also understand is that you play the role of asset manager. And that means giving clear direction of what success looks like so that that property manager has a framework to make decisions. It's not to micromanage those decisions, but to help them understand how their decisions impact the greater good. And part of that is like, again, just sitting down with annual goals. What are revenue goals? What are our goals on?   Occupancy, what are our goals on in a lot? And this may seem simple, but I promise you a lot of folks don't do this. And if you don't do that, then that property manager is going to default to, for instance, I'll give you a great example. I've got a property manager. She's awesome rock star. But she always gets nervous when occupancy is not at like 96 or 97 percent of this property. So she is, you she starts apologizing profusely and all I did this or done that and like.   Jason Hull (12:58) Yeah.   John Casmon (13:04) Occupancy is one of our KPIs for sure. It's important, but that is not the KPI. I am focused on my net operating income. And if we're going to push rents, the impact of that is you're going to have higher vacancy and she is not comfortable with that. And that's probably because she's used to working with owners who want that thing fully rented and they are comfortable having 100 % occupancy.   Jason Hull (13:13) Yeah.   Hmm.   Yeah.   John Casmon (13:33) if they're leaving 50 bucks, 75 bucks, whatever it is of rent on the table. And that's the part where you've got to really align with your vision versus their vision, because what they have in the back of their mind may not completely align with what you have. Or they have residents in their face who are coming into the office. They want something fixed. They want it done quickly. They want it done right. They want it done yesterday.   Jason Hull (13:49) Right.   .   John Casmon (13:59) So they've got that pressure of this person in their face. So they may go out there and spend the money or authorize the money to get spent. And maybe they're not picking the most cost effective measure. So you have that. And I'll give you one third one. A lot of times when you run into the flip side of that is maybe occupancy is low. They say, hey, we need to increase our marketing spend, right? We got to increase our marketing budget. know, ox is down to 88 or 90%. We got to spend more money. And we're not necessarily.   really zeroing in on what the specific issue or challenge is at that property. So for an owner, your job as an asset manager is to partner with them and to help them see what the options are, help them work through with some of those challenges and solutions are and partner with them to find success. It's not to micromanage them and tell them what to do, but it's really to understand the situation better and give them that perspective.   Jason Hull (14:49) Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. think, you know, one of the things I've seen is that I've noticed a lot of property managers, they make the mistake of thinking that the goal or the product that people want to buy from them is property management. But investors don't wake up in the morning and go, man, I'm so excited to get property management today. The thing that they want. And so the way I describe it to them as they say, property management is like the flight to Hawaii. It's not Hawaii.   and you're trying to sell the flight. That's not the exciting part. You need to figure out what the investor wants, what their goal is. Where do they want to go? What's Hawaii for them, right? What's paradise? And then how do we optimize for that? And how do we help them create a path for that? Because the actual product that a property manager is selling is not what they do. It's not property management. The actual product is them. It's them and their values and their belief system and how they create trust and the team they build and the system and mechanism they build around them.   That's the actual product the property manager is selling. so a lot of property managers make that mistake. They sit there and talk to you about maintenance coordination and leasing and inspections. And meanwhile, you're just wondering as an investor, can I even trust this person? Like do our values align? Yeah. So I don't know what your thoughts are on that, but.   John Casmon (16:11) I think you're spot on, right? Because, I mean, ultimately, as an investor, you are only as good as the team you can build. And that property manager is in charge of the day-to-day aspects of the business. especially when you, you know, I've heard horror stories of folks who have done like turnkey investing, right? Where the property manager, someone owns it, they buy it, they fix it up, and then they rent it back to...   an investor. And I've heard horror stories where that property was not being well managed. And that's the fear. If you're not in that marketing, you can't come and see it. So if you got an out of town investor, you really are trusting that property manager. So that is the most important thing, right? Everything else are tactical, daily situational things that can change. But it comes down to do I have the right people, people that I can trust, people who are going to make the right decision based on the information they have.   because they may not know what I know or maybe something shifted and changed where they would have made a different decision. We can't, you know, ache on that. It really comes down to are they doing their best? Are they making good decisions? If they're not making good decisions, is it because they didn't have the correct information, which again, could fall back on you as the investor to say, hey, are they aware of what your goals are? Are they aware of maybe this situation, these tools, these resources, whatever it is? And that's on you to sit and collaborate.   But trust is absolutely paramount because at end of the day, the thing that I think most of us are concerned with is who we partner with. And there's a great book I'm reading right now. And it gets into decision making and the fear of decision making for most of us and why deals stall. Why didn't you hire somebody? Why didn't you, you know, go with the vendor or go with the contractor or with the company? And the biggest thing is we are scared of making the wrong choice. All of us in decision and no action.   Jason Hull (17:43) Absolutely.   John Casmon (18:04) is better than the wrong action for many people because they once they take action. Well, now they're blaming themselves because you didn't pick the right person. Why did you hire that guy? You should have like now this starts to go on in their head versus doing nothing. Well, at least it's you know, it's not going to get worse, you know, it will in lot of cases get worse. So for a lot of people, that is the scariest thing. So if you can take that fear off the table as far as being the right person or being someone who is trustworthy.   Jason Hull (18:07) Right, yeah.   John Casmon (18:32) everything else gets easier. So if you can do that, that's, you know, the best thing you can do as an investor or as a property manager.   Jason Hull (18:38) Yeah, I agree. think one of things that I talk about a lot is that clarity has to come before action because if you don't have clarity and you start taking a bunch of action, doing stuff, every action you take is a little bit wrong. Sometimes it's a lot wrong. so, yeah, we need to get that clarity first before we start ⁓ making moves. And you talked about, I love the example of your property manager that is trying to   optimize maybe for the wrong thing. They're like, want to optimize to the, making sure their vacancy is super low. But that might not be the goal. That's not the primary goal. The goal is money, you know, and there's a really good book is by Elihu Goldratt. It's a good book for operations people, but it's called The Goal. And spoiler alert, the guy's trying to figure out the goal through this whole book, the story and it's money. That's the secret. The goal is the of the business, should be making making money.   And what happens in this book is that people are over optimizing individual pieces in this flow at this warehouse. And it's actually not helping to make money. It's causing more constraint. And so if we over optimize at one stage, it actually creates waste, bloat, inventory, additional work for the next stage. And so sometimes the best thing certain departments can do is slow down and do less in order to get the outcome to be maximized outcome.   And there's some really great examples in that that I think are really powerful. But I think the if you're optimizing for the wrong thing, then you're not making it effective. So you want to make sure you're optimizing for the right thing. Otherwise. ensues. You get mad at somebody, but nobody understood what the goal was. And so I think, yeah, getting a greed upon set of criteria of what what the outcome is and asking the property manager, can you help me achieve this?   And they know, they know if they know what the problem is, usually they can, they know how to help you get whatever goal that you have. And they know whether your goal is probably realistic or not, because they've helped probably a lot of people do this similarly. And so, but yeah, I think it's very important. Make sure you know, where's Hawaii and maybe property management is the vehicle. Now you had mentioned like, I'm really curious about this idea of, you know, maybe creating syndications.   Some property managers are now starting to think, maybe I should create a syndication. What's your criteria for, what's a good syndication and what are some of the, I'd be really curious to get into if some of the property managers listening were wanting to do kind of a little bit of what you do, how they might be able to get started in that. Like what are the beginning steps to make sure they don't make the mistakes you probably already figured out in the beginning?   John Casmon (21:27) Well, I think the first thing is, you really want to get into it? Right. Because for a lot of people, you got to understand it's a different business. Now you're not talking about real estate investing. You're not talking about property management. You're really talking more about, you know, investment management. You're talking about bringing on private investors who are looking for a return. That is communication skills. That's building up a network and a database of   Jason Hull (21:35) Mm-hmm.   Right, returns.   John Casmon (21:54) prospective investors, it's understanding the return projections that they're looking for. And it's really kind of managing the investor expectations, not necessarily the investment. And to give you a great example here, I had a deal where the investment went great, but it was slightly lower than what we initially projected. And I had an investor who was upset.   Jason Hull (22:07) Yeah.   Yeah.   John Casmon (22:23) about that. And we had communicated all throughout the entire process where things sat and he wasn't too upset, but he still made it a point to let me know, hey, well, this is less than what you initially thought. And that's challenging because the market shifts, right? Anybody who's bought properties in 2022 and beyond knows the market has shifted drastically over the last three or four years. So those projections made in a 2021-22 environment   Have a hard time standing up in a 25 26 environment We still make good money on that deals double-digit returns for investors ⁓ But you know there was that that was that feedback I got from one of the investors conversely We just exited deal a couple months ago, and we completely exceeded our return projections You know we delivered on a almost a 2.7 equity multiple Hit all you know mid 20s on the IRR completely unheard of stuff in this environment   And I have one investor call me and say, hey, John, I just checked my account. Is this right? And I'm like, yeah, it's it's right, man. He's like, my gosh, you guys killed it, man. my. Like, this is amazing. And it's great to hear. But again, that is separate from the investment. Right. Happy to manage the investor expectations and concerns. But that was an up and down investment where we had, you know, a moment where we actually had to put some of our general partner capital into the deal to keep it going.   Jason Hull (23:27) Yeah.   Yeah.   John Casmon (23:48) We have floating rate debt. had to refinance out of that. And we had to kind of rush to do that before rates started to go crazy. We had moments where our construction or renovation costs were much higher than we anticipated. So there are a lot of things that we had to navigate. And I think what happens for a lot of operators, a lot of people who get into syndication, they know the real estate and want to do the real estate, but they do not understand the perspective of the investor. And when you don't communicate to investors on a frequent basis and a clear, transparent nature,   Jason Hull (24:19) Yeah. Yeah.   John Casmon (24:19) They fill in the blanks and   the first concern every investor has and they won't say it. Most of time they don't say it, but I promise you they're thinking it after they make that investment. my gosh, did I make a mistake? Am I going to lose money? Is this person going to run off? Is this going to be some sort of fraudulent thing? Is this deal going to fail? These are all that we're wired like that. This is caveman stuff, right? We're wired to protect ourselves.   Jason Hull (24:36) Hmm.   Right.   John Casmon (24:45) And when you make an investment, and by the way, our investments are typically $50,000 and up, right? So these are not small investments. So when you make that investment, people start to second guess that decision. So my job when it comes to this side of the business is to keep them grounded that, hey, you've done your research, you've made an informed decision, you've picked a good partner, we've done this before. ⁓   Jason Hull (24:50) Yeah. Right.   John Casmon (25:13) And it's really to make sure that they feel comfortable with that decision. It has nothing to do with the investment, right? The investment itself, we got to go out there and execute. But that investor psyche is a completely different game. So first thing I would tell any of your property managers when they get into this business is understand, do you actually like people? Do you want to manage investors? Are you comfortable managing people's money? ⁓ And then beyond that, you have to do it the legal way. There are a lot of regulations around accepting capital from other people.   Jason Hull (25:31) you   John Casmon (25:42) So you can do it as a joint venture. The more common way of doing it, the more accepted way of doing this is by doing a formal syndication, which requires you to file SEC documentations. ⁓ know, there's regulation D and regulation A and there's some couple others, but typically it's going to be reg D 506 B or 506 C filing, which basically is the the structure that allows you to offer ⁓ passive investment opportunity or a security to investors. So again, for some people,   It's overwhelming. they're like, nope, never mind. But for some people, they love it. They want to get into it and they can learn more about that process.   Jason Hull (26:19) Got it. Yeah. I think I love your idea that it's more about managing expectations rather than the investments. And I think, I think that's good advice for all the property managers listing. This is something we spend a lot of time coaching clients on because they think their job is to manage properties. But really, if they're not strong in managing expectations and managing the relationship, it's 10 times to 100 times harder to manage the properties.   their operational costs go through the roof because owners are getting anxious. They're asking more questions. They're getting all these interruptions and calls, tenants, owners constantly. And if they had just managed the relationship and expectations and set strong boundaries at the outset, everybody would feel calmer. And I think really for business owners, I think the thing that really stood out to me that I've been focused on, and this is I've done some personal coaching and this is just nervous system regulation.   If you can, and John, seem like you're pretty chill and pretty calm and I'm sure the investor feel safe with you, which is why you've had success. If you are a person that is anxious and you're running around like a chicken with your head cut off, you're going to have, you're going to struggle in leading anybody, especially in relationships to your spouse and like everybody else. so having a calm, regulated nervous system allows your investors.   to entrain to your nervous system and to feel safer and to calm down. And that's not something you can pretend or you can just fake. You have to be that and they can sense and they can feel that it'll come across in your tone and in your body language and how you communicate. But if you can make sure that you're in that space and that you're able to regulate your own system, you're able to stay calm when other people are coming at you.   and other people are angry and other people are emotionally heightened. And you recognize this isn't really you. It's just that's them. And you can maintain that calm. You will be able to create a lot more safety. And that's really what people want to buy. Most people out there, their primary basic need is safety and security. Most people. That's why they aren't entrepreneurs. That's why they don't go start jobs. That's why they aren't like you and me. And if you're a property management business owner listening to this,   Most people are not like you. They want safety and security. That's why they get a property manager. They want peace of mind. And so, and I'm sure investors in a syndication, they also want some peace of mind because this is a big chunk of change.   John Casmon (28:55) They do. And I will say to most of the property managers I come across thrive in chaos. Right. They're used to stuff getting thrown at them. Right. And when you talk to them and get to know them, you learn very quickly. They like it. They do. They like the fact that they don't know what the day is going to bring. It could be a. Yeah, yeah. Could be a tenant coming with some crazy issue. It could be something from it's never boring and they thrive in it. However.   Jason Hull (29:00) Yeah.   Yeah.   They like the variety and unique challenges that property management brings, for sure.   It's never boring.   John Casmon (29:25) What happens then if you if they're going to look to work with investors and particularly raise capital and kind of do their own syndications, they have to understand that while they may thrive in chaos and uncertainty, most other people want organization. You want everything you said right. You want to have the calmness. You are looking for a captain to steer the ship. And for that part of the personality, they're going to have to tap into a different side of it to demonstrate how they handle chaos.   Jason Hull (29:37) Hmm.   Yeah.   Yeah.   John Casmon (29:54) not that they are chaotic. And I think what happens a lot of times when you're working with property managers is that they don't project that level of control. It just feels like they're reacting. So part of it is that, and they're really, really good ones. The ones who make it to that next level who are the regional managers and get those promotions, well, that's what they do. They manage the chaos and they manage up. They do a great job of telling the owners,   Jason Hull (30:06) Yeah.   Mm.   John Casmon (30:23) the leadership, whoever they need to talk to, they're telling them, hey, here's how here's our process. Here's how we're managing the situation. Here's what's going on. Here's what we're into. Hey, we had a water main burst here. Here's we bought. call three companies. We've got three quotes, but it's calm, right? It can be the worst. I'll give you a real example, right? At a fire, one of my properties and I was going to meet a property manager and I just happened to have a meeting with her that day at the property. She called me.   I was literally about to get in the car. She called me and said, Hey, I just want to let you know we've got a fire going on at the property. I'm not sure if you still want to meet. You're happy to come. We already have, you know, the fire department's here. They're they're putting the fire out right now. We already have another company that's coming in. They're going to walk through the damages once this is kind of settled. And I've already talked to the residents. Residents are good. We've got them hotels for the evening. We've checked with insurance. This is covered in your policy. So they're good to go. So you're happy to come down and talk and all of that if you want to.   Or we can let things settle down and maybe we can meet next week. This is a fire, right? This is like a scary situation. She called me.   Jason Hull (31:26) Right. A literal fire. Yeah. And there's plenty of fires   in managing properties. The literal ones.   John Casmon (31:33) Her calmness, she was so calm. Not only was   she calm, she had handled 90 % of it, right? It was the stuff you could handle in the moment. She handled it. So was like, hey, I don't think it makes sense for me to because I'm probably just going to add more anxiety to the situation at this point, right? It seems like you've got it under control. Why don't we let things settle, literally let the dust settle? And then once it's there, I'll come down. We can assess the damages, figure out what else needs to happen, what other next steps need to take place, right?   Jason Hull (31:41) Yeah? huh.   question. Yeah.   John Casmon (32:03) but had it handled like a rock star. Now, a lot of other folks would have saw the flames, called immediately, my God, there's a fire. ⁓ my God, what are we gonna do? So now you freaking out, everyone's freaking out, no one's controlling the situation, right? So now everyone's mind is just spinning and going. it does really take, kind of go back to where we started the conversation, that mindset of someone who was the boss, who was leading.   Jason Hull (32:05) Yeah, I love that.   Yeah. Freaking out. Yeah.   Hmm. Yeah.   John Casmon (32:32) who is going to take charge, even though it's not their property, they're going to take charge. Here's what needs to happen next. Maybe you have an emergency response plan already put in place, but you have these things already scheduled and ready to go. So when they happen, you're not shocked. You're not surprised. You're not asking questions that maybe you should have figured out upfront. And that's what a great property manager does. And if you convey that to owners, you're going to stand out above and beyond your competition because most people cannot convey that level of control, the level of   planning and the level of expertise that it takes to truly and effectively manage properties from the front, being proactive as opposed to just reacting to whatever the issue of the day is.   Jason Hull (33:13) Got it, okay. So ⁓ I'm reading, I just read, well, I didn't just read. I read in the past a really great book called Extreme Ownership. Really good book. Yeah, phenomenal book. ⁓ I'm going through their newer book, which I think is even better, called The Dichotomy of Leadership. leadership is what we're talking about right now, is that that,   John Casmon (33:23) Yeah, I think I got it like right here. It is right there.   Absolutely.   Jason Hull (33:38) creates a huge impact and there's a lot of misunderstandings of what leadership is, like it's control or it's being aggressive or, but yeah, it's really that calm presence of letting people know I've got it. Like we can take care of this. We've got a plan and staying regulated and calm. So I love that. ⁓ have a, so another question I have is how can the property managers listen to this? How could they maybe target or partner   with, if possible, syndications like you, like people that are doing what you're doing. Is there a chance that they could be a resource or do most syndications just in-house and do, they are a property management business?   John Casmon (34:19) No, no, most ⁓ most that I know work with third party manager companies. So I would say first and foremost, if you and syndications, I mean, it sounds like a big, huge, fancy word. But I mean, honestly, anytime you work with passive investors is technically a syndication. So it really comes down to figuring out who is looking for third party management and whether or not it's technically a syndication or not is really irrelevant. You want someone who is going to be managing or owning the property.   Jason Hull (34:24) Okay.   Yeah.   John Casmon (34:49) They want third party, but you have to understand their plan, going back to understanding the goals, right? Most syndications are looking to sell in a three to seven year timeframe, typically five to seven years. Most buy and hold owners have not decided or have not identified their exit strategy. So that's probably the biggest difference is when you have, let's just call it an individual investor or maybe it's a   Jason Hull (35:01) Okay.   Right.   John Casmon (35:17) a family or whatever that's buying and they want a third party manager, they don't know the exit. They haven't predetermined that they're going to sell in five years. So they are buying and holding it. And that goes back to the the I think the separation of understanding the objective, because for that person, having a full property is great. It means they're maximizing the revenue potential today. When you are syndicating.   most syndicators already assume 5 % vacancy. That's that's in everyone's underwriting. So you being at 100, they won't even give you credit banks don't even give you credit for it. So all of these things are already assumed. So for us to be above that is actually a miss, because it means we're not being as aggressive on the rent. So just understanding the mindset of a syndicator, which is they are looking to sell typically they're looking to double their money over a five or six year period. So how can you create value?   And that's something most property managers don't fully understand. But I would sit and I would talk to that syndicator. And if you want to be a syndicator or partners, not just be a third party vendor, but you actually want a partner, which we have seen a lot of folks look to do. You want to figure out how you can bring value to the table, because now we are aligning your interest with that syndicators interest. And now you've got a great partnership.   because every syndicator is going to need property management and they're going to need construction management to drive value. So if they can bring those people in as partners, that's a great opportunity for you. And if you're a property manager, you may have phenomenal relationships. You may already have contractor or the vendor partners that you trust in that marketplace. And if you could then take that and get a slice of the equity, that makes you very valuable for both sides.   Jason Hull (37:08) Do syndications, do they also need investors in capital or do most of them have that, are they really good at that? Okay.   John Casmon (37:15) Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   mean, I mean, syndication at its core really just comes down to the need of capital. If someone had the capital themselves, they would probably just buy it directly and not go through the process of syndication. Because the syndication is literally just raising the money from passive investors. And in that scenario, again, being able to manage that, manage the communication, ⁓ that's really what a syndication truly is.   Jason Hull (37:42) So a really good property management partner could bring property management, some of the construction elements and investors and capital to the table. So it could be a nice little.   John Casmon (37:51) That would be amazing.   I'll be honest, man. That's because I don't want your listeners sitting here like, oh, I don't have one of those. I don't know if I've ever met one that had all of those. If you do have all of them, yes, you should consider syndicating yourself because you got all the pieces to the puzzle. Typically, what happens is a property manager has the property managers. I'll give you a great example. I got a 54 unit down in North Carolina. OK, so I came in as a key principal. I've got a.   Jason Hull (38:03) Okay.   Okay.   John Casmon (38:20) to my coaching clients. It's his property that he found. He asked me to come help him with the loan, which I did. One of the members, one of the partners is the property manager. So that's kind of their role to the table is they're managing the property. That's what they kind of came on. They had a couple of relationships, but their main role is the asset and property management side of it. So that's a great way to come to the table. But. Just like anything else in business.   Jason Hull (38:33) Mm-hmm.   John Casmon (38:49) It's very hard to find someone who checks every single box. I mean, that's like finding the marketer who's a CMO, who's also the CFO, who's also the COO, who's also the chief of human resource. very like no one, people don't really have like top notch excellent skills at every single one of those, right? Like you might be great at business, great at sales, great at marketing. You're probably terrible at finance, right? Like you just, you just forget to do your expense report type person, right? So it's hard to find someone who's   checks all those boxes. And I think typically when comes to property management, you want someone who's great with people, can resolve issues, but also has to be somewhat, you know, sufficient when it comes to the numbers, tracking all the data, tracking all the, you know, the rent roll, the leases, the income and expense statements, things like that. So usually they're not going to do every single box. But again, if you can find someone or that's where partnerships make sense.   Jason Hull (39:24) Mm-hmm.   John Casmon (39:43) If you've got that awesome. And again, I'm not saying a company doesn't have that. I'm just saying a single individual doesn't, which is why it's great to partner. If you can find someone who maybe brings a set of skills that you don't have, whether they're joining you in your property management business or they're partnering up where you're bringing your property management skills to the table with their investing or their networking skills, that makes for a good partnership.   Jason Hull (39:43) Mm-hmm.   Yeah, I got it. Well, we've got several clients, you know, all over the U S that are really good at property management. They're really good at handling the maintenance stuff and they obviously have a pool of investors as clients and, and, know, and they know that they can't do everything. So we coach them in making sure that they would do time studies. They figure out which, what their purpose is. We start to align them towards more fulfillment, more freedom, more contribution and more support in their business.   John Casmon (40:32) Yeah.   Jason Hull (40:38) And they start to build the right team. So they're getting operators, they're getting BDMs, they're getting the things they're not like strong in. And so we just make healthier businesses. So for those of maybe my clients listening that have healthy property management companies. And, but they don't want to do syndication. They're just like, man, that's a whole nother business. If I stay in my lane, I can grow that faster. How do they find syndicates? Like, how do they find people like you? Cause you've got a lot of properties connected to you.   and they would probably love to chat with somebody like you. Where do you syndicate people hang out? What's the title? Who runs a syndicate? What are they called? Do they have a specific title?   John Casmon (41:15) You   Yeah.   Yeah, great. Great question. Multifamily syndicator is is kind of the name just syndicator. We're all over. So I've got a podcast called Multifamily Insights. I interview like minded individuals. I've been doing that for a long time. We've done our seven hundred and seventy plus episode. So lots of people, lots of syndicators there. Definitely conferences. So if you look up any multifamily conference in your city.   Jason Hull (41:25) Okay.   Nice.   Okay.   John Casmon (41:46) meetups, lot of meetups in different cities as well. Those are great places to find syndicators. I think the biggest thing though is this.   Figure out who your avatar is. Because while we're talking about syndicators, ultimately, if you want to scale your property management business, I presume you're trying to scale with folks who are looking for third party management and the best option for that. OK, and let me back up. had one of the guests out of a podcast some years back, ⁓ Ashley Wilson. Love Ashley. As you said, something really changed when I thought about the business.   And she said the best way to find any vendor, any vendor is to figure out who relies on that vendor next and ask them for referral. So if you think about it, if you want a great drywall person, ask a painter. A painter is going to know who's great at drywall because they're going to know who makes their job easy and they can come in and just start painting versus a drywall guy who maybe doesn't, you know, you know.   Jason Hull (42:38) I like it.   John Casmon (42:55) mud the drywall properly or doesn't sand it down. So they got to do all this extra work before they start their process. Right. So a painter is going to know a great drywall guy. And in this case, it's really hard on ⁓ the property manager because you guys are the ones who do the work. But if you are looking for syndicators, OK, well syndicators, person who buys the deal. Well, who sells the deal? A broker. Find brokers. Go to a broker, commercial multifamily broker and ask them, hey,   Jason Hull (43:01) I love this.   Yeah.   John Casmon (43:25) Do you know some groups or you have properties that you're going to list? Here are the kind of deals we want to do now on the flip side of that. You got to be good at your job, right? You got to sell yourself and share what you do. So if you've got a great track record, a great resume, showcase that, bring that broker through and let them know, hey, we're looking to scale our property management business here. Here are the kind of assets that we want to manage. If you come across any of these that you're going to list, would you mind keeping our main name out there or referring us or giving us introductions to any of those buyers?   Jason Hull (43:53) Yeah.   John Casmon (43:54) so that we can throw our hat in the running to manage these properties. That's a phenomenal way to do that. And it allows you to shine and expand your relationships in your core networks and in your core markets.   Jason Hull (44:06) Brilliant. think I love the, I love Ashley's idea that you shared, you know, the drywall. Yeah. The painters, like they don't want to be painting over a crappy drywall. They're like, this is a mess. Like this doesn't even look good in my job. Now I'm going to look bad. Yeah. So the brokers know who maybe those best syndicators are. And so they could just go to the brokers and say, Hey, who's, who's doing deals like this? Who who's got things going on? Like who could you connect me with?   And I avoid maybe.   John Casmon (44:36) And on top of that, keep in mind, too, like what   are the times when? Yeah, but think about to like when is a property hiring or bringing on a new property manager? Right. So it's either a current owners firing the existing property manager or the property is being sold. Right. So, I mean, if you can get in during that transition phase, that's going to help you tremendously. And if even if they're firing their existing property manager, you can think through, OK, how do I?   Jason Hull (44:51) Yeah. Yeah.   John Casmon (45:06) work myself and get my name out there. And a lot of times, again, you're going to ask, right? You're going to ask other investors. If I were going through that process, I'm going to call my buddies into space, right? And say, hey, man, having a hard time, my current PM is not working out or we're not hitting our objectives, looking at some other options. Do you have any experience with these guys? What do you know about these guys? Or do you have anybody you could recommend? It's word of mouth, right? So that's what's going to start happening as well. So you kind of have to get out there and network and let folks know who you are, what you do. But you want to be someone who   people can say, yeah, these guys are amazing. You know, they, they only had an eight unit, but they crushed my eight unit for me. I'm sure they kill your 25 unit or your 50 unit. And you've got to start building that rapport and building your reputation in your market.   Jason Hull (45:44) Yeah.   Nice. This is good advice, my friend. So, cool. For those that maybe are investors listening to this show, ⁓ I'd love to hear a little bit about what you do, how you do run your syndication, and how they can ⁓ make things more passive, if that's what they're looking   John Casmon (46:08) Yeah, man. So there are lots of different ways to get in. If you are looking to be more passive, ⁓ high level, here's how it works. OK, so first and foremost, me and my team would go out. We look for the deals. We focus on a really tight radius. So we're in Cincinnati. We like Cincinnati, Columbus, Louisville, Kentucky. Really a two hour radius of the Cincinnati market is where we focus. And right now we actually think there's more opportunities locally. So we're really honed in on Cincinnati right now. But we focus on that once we find a deal.   We reach out to folks in our network. So we have folks in our investor list. ⁓ Once they're on our list, we kind of have a quick vetting process and then we can share opportunities with them. Once they see that opportunity, they get a chance to review it. We like to have a webinar where we answer any questions about the deal. I think for new investors, it's a great way to learn because we have a lot of experienced investors who ask very intelligent, thoughtful questions that   Many first time investors probably would not even think of. And that's a great way to learn, right? And ultimately when it comes to this space, it's really about education. know, it's educating yourself, understanding how you think about risk, how you mitigate risk in your investment choices. And those webinars are a great chance for you to learn about that the first time. Once you've done that, you can go ahead and fill out our official paperwork with our SEC documents.   Jason Hull (47:30) Mm-hmm.   John Casmon (47:30) And then   once you're through there, you can make the investment. But the first thing is just to get on our list, you can have access to the deals. And before you do that, we've actually put together a guide that can help people because I found that when I have these calls, people don't ask great questions. Sometimes they do. But I want to make sure that you are informed and well educated because this is a big investment. You know, this is not a 599 thing. And if it doesn't work out, OK, well, I just wasted six bucks. No.   Jason Hull (47:54) .   John Casmon (47:59) We're asking you to make a pretty large investment, whether it's with us or with others. If that's what you're looking to do, I want to make sure you're well informed. So we put together a guide. It's seven questions you must ask before investing in apartments. You can get that on our website. It's casmancapital.com slash seven questions, but it gets into questions around the market itself, the operating team, what you should be looking for, the deal. What is the story of this property? What's the business plan? And it helps you identify different levels of risk because the reality is   Anything can work, but you want to mitigate risk as much as possible, particularly when you're a passive investor, because you are basically saying, I'm trusting these people to find the right deal and execute. And you want to make sure that you are finding and identifying the right individuals who have a proven track record doing the thing that they are asking to do. When I hear about people losing money in real estate. At least 50, if not 70 % of the time.   Jason Hull (48:35) Hmm.   John Casmon (48:57) It is someone doing something for the first time. It is the first time in the market, first time doing this kind of deal, first time doing this kind of business plan. And. I can't tell you how frustrating it is because it's a big red flag, and it's not to say they can't do it and can't have success. But if it's your first time, I want to see how you're mitigating that right. You want to partner with someone who does have the experience you want. Like there are lot of things that you can do to put the odds in your favor. And when you're a passive investor.   Jason Hull (48:59) Mm, yeah.   John Casmon (49:26) It is not your job to hope. Your job is to analyze the information in front of you and make an informed decision. So this guide can help you do that.   Jason Hull (49:34) Yeah, love it. I'm going to run a quick word from our sponsor real quick. Our sponsor for this episode is Vendero. And many of you tell me that property management maintenance is probably the least enjoyable part of being a property manager and definitely the most time consuming. But what if you could cut that workload by up to 85 percent? That's exactly what Vendero has achieved. So they leverage cutting edge AI technology to handle nearly all your maintenance tasks from initiating work orders.   Troubleshooting, coordinating with vendors and reporting. This AI doesn't just automate, it becomes your ideal employee. Learning your preferences, executing tasks flawlessly and never needing a day off and never quitting. This frees you up to focus on the critical tasks that really move the needle for your business, whether that's refining operations, expanding your portfolio or even just taking a well-deserved break. Don't let maintenance drag you down. Step up your property management game with Vendero. Visit vendero.ai slash door grow today and make this the last maintenance hire you'll ever need.   All right, so John, this is super helpful. love you've got your list. ⁓ You got your webinar, you've got your guide. I would recommend property managers listening to this. If they're curious about the world of syndication, that they start getting into your stuff and seeing how an expert like you is doing this and maybe even get involved in some of the deals with you or something might be a good idea. And they can kind of get a feel for how this works. And then maybe they'll say, I don't want to do what John does.   And I'll just find people that do, but they'll at least understand how they could partner with people like that. then, or they may decide, you know what? John's clever, but I'm clever too. I might be able to figure out how to do this too. And maybe they'll do it too. And, but I think there's a solid opportunity for property managers that want to be in the multifamily space and do multifamily management to find third party people that are doing these syndication deals. They need good property managers and property managers want more doors and they want to grow.   And if you don't, because your business sucks and it's uncomfortable, then reach out to me. I'll help you out. We'll get you dialed in. But ⁓ John, what else would you say to the investors that are maybe they're familiar with this and they've done some real estate investing and they've worked with some syndications ⁓ and they get on your list to do the webinar. What would you say to them next?   John Casmon (51:56) Yeah, I think the biggest thing is understand what you're looking for. You know, I think one of the biggest challenges for investors is when you can't pull the trigger, it's typically because you haven't figured out what you're solving for. Are you looking for passive income? So you're just looking for a cash flow? Are you looking for long term wealth appreciation? Are you looking for tax benefits and to reduce kind of your tax liability? Do just want to diversify? Maybe you got feel like you have too much in a stock market, just like we put something somewhere else. So.   Figure out what you're actually solving for. Understand your risk tolerance, you know, because every deal is different. In our case, we do value add B class deals. That's a fancy way of just saying we like properties that already making money that are solid, solid tenant based. Think of when I say B class, I'm thinking of all stuff that was built maybe 30 years ago, maybe 40, maybe 20 years ago. Stuff that.   your teachers, your firefighters, your police officers, places where they might rent. So desirable locations, not luxury, not super high end, not, you know, super courts, everything. ⁓ But, you know, places that you would want your kid, your kid was in college, places you would be fine with your kid living, right? So you're thinking about that stuff. That's, you know, I don't say affordable stuff. That's not crazy price. So that's kind of what we focus on.   Jason Hull (53:15) So would   that be like, is that how you find the best markets then?   John Casmon (53:21) That's part of it. That's our strategy. There are different strategies that people utilize. I have found for us that is a sweet spot where we can take those kind of assets, modernize them and create value for potential renters. Some people like to focus only on they call it core plus right where they're buying newer stuff, stuff built five years ago or three years ago. And maybe it was, you know, leased up and they're just going to go in and hold it longer. You'll find other ways to add more money through amenities.   Jason Hull (53:35) Okay.   John Casmon (53:50) So some people do that strategy. Some people like older properties where they're buying more distressed or much older properties and are trying to fully renovate them and bring them up. There are strategies out there, something like new construction, stuff that doesn't exist. They want to build from the ground up. So it really comes down to you. Every investing strategy has a different level of risk. This has nothing to with real estate, right? This is investing in general. you're buying, you know, know, value stocks versus growth stocks versus Internet, it's the same stuff, right?   So you just have to figure out your level of risk. We like value at B-class multifamily deals. Once you understand your level of risk and balance that with your return expectations or projections, that's when you can figure out which investments actually make sense. You know, I have some folks who they like to invest in what we call trophy assets. And...   They may not know that right away, but when you send them a couple of deals and they look at the property like, ⁓ it's okay. They want something. They want something they can brag about. They want to drive you by like, see that building over there? That's me. And if that's fine, if that's what you want, understand what comes with that, right? That's going to be a lower term, right? Because these are, there's not much value to create, right? You've got a brand new property. It's A class, rents are $2,500. There's not a whole lot you can do there. And because of that,   Jason Hull (54:49) Yeah, they don't want to show that off. Look what I'm connecting.   OK, right.   Thank   Yeah.   John Casmon (55:13) There's not as much risk. So you're going to get less return because there's less risk. That's fun. Some people want to maximize their return, right? Hey, I don't need this money. I want to let it ride for 20 years. So they might want to do new construction or they might want to do a deep discount, highly distressed vacant property that needs, you know, $50,000 per unit to renovate it and turn around because the upside is there. So it just depends on that investor and your level of risk. Right. And most of us fall somewhere in the middle.   Jason Hull (55:27) Thank   John Casmon (55:43) which is kind of our strategy. figure out your level of risk tolerance, what you're looking for. And sometimes you don't know until you start looking at a Because you might think you're a cashflow person until I show you what cash flows. And you're like, oh, no, I don't want to be in that de

On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan Greene interviews Ashley Garner, founder of ABG & Associates and a multifamily investor with more than three decades of experience. Ashley shares how growing up renovating college rentals with his banker father shaped his long-term mindset and ultimately led him to scale from small single-family properties to hundreds of apartment units across North Carolina. Ashley reflects on the transition from hands-on landlord to operator and capital raiser, explaining why scaling required him to let go of control and trust professional property management. He discusses the importance of communication systems, standardized processes, and focusing geographically to build operational leverage. The conversation also explores syndication, raising capital through relationships, and how cost segregation and bonus depreciation can dramatically enhance investor returns. Throughout the episode, Jonathan and Ashley return to a central theme: real estate is a long game. Whether it's holding properties for decades to fund long-term care, prioritizing clean and safe housing for tenants, or building trust with investors, sustainable success comes from discipline, patience, and strong relationships. In this episode, you will hear: How Ashley's early exposure to college rentals shaped his investing philosophy Why scaling required letting go of hands-on management The importance of structured communication with property managers How focusing on one state can create operational and investor advantages The mindset shift from "asking for money" to offering opportunity through syndication How cost segregation and bonus depreciation can significantly boost investor returns Follow and Review If you enjoy the show, please follow Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing on Apple Podcasts and leave a rating and review. It helps other listeners discover these conversations and supports the show's growth. Supporting Resources Connect with Ashley: Website: http://www.abgmultifamily.com/  Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/@abgmultifamily  Facebook: http://facebook.com/ABGRealEstate  Instagram: http://instagram.com/abgrealestate  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleybgarner/  X: http://twitter.com/ABGRealEstate  Connect with Jonathan: Website - www.streamlined.properties  YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos  Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene  Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties    Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/streamlinen​j Bigger Pockets -  www.biggerpockets.com/users/jonathangreene Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties  Email - info@streamlined.properties   This episode was produced by Outlier Audio.

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ABOUT BEN MURPHYBen has a proven track record of successfully closing approximately $600 million in multifamily transactions in Oregon and SW Washington since 2014. His outstanding market relationships and reputation are best in class and will significantly enhance our existing reach across all divisions that we work. Beyond his professional accomplishments, Ben is a dedicated supporter of environmental causes, actively contributing to organizations such as the Nature Conservancy and Greenpeace. Additionally, he serves as a member of the Multifamily Northwest Government Affairs Committee. THIS TOPIC IN A NUTSHELL:  ·         Guest Introduction – background and journey in real estate·         Blue State vs. Sunbelt Investing·         Market Cycles & Supply Trends ·         Current Lending Environment·         Multifamily Distress Reality Check ·         Broker Metrics & Prospecting Data ·         Cap Rate Expansion & Value Decline ·         Expense Pressure on NOI ·         Transaction Volume Slowdown ·         Outlook for 2026 & Market Bottom ·         Affordable Housing & Policy Challenges ·         Preparing Assets for Sale ·         Connect with Ben  KEY QUOTE:  “The best real estate strategies are built for decades, not market cycles.”  ABOUT THE WESTSIDE INVESTORS NETWORK   The Westside Investors Network is your community for investing knowledge for growth. For real estate professionals by real estate professionals. This show is focused on the next step in your career... investing, for those starting with nothing to multifamily syndication.     The Westside Investors Network strives to bring knowledge and education to real estate professionals that is seeking to gain more freedom in their life. The host AJ and Chris Shepard, are committed to sharing the wealth of knowledge that they have gained throughout the years to allow others the opportunity to learn and grow in their investing. They own Uptown Properties, a successful Property Management, and Brokerage Company. If you are interested in Property Management in the Portland Metro or Bend Metro Areas, please visit www.uptownpm.com. If you are interested in investing in multifamily syndication, please visit www.uptownsyndication.com.   #RealEstateInvesting #CommercialRealEstate #MultifamilyInvesting #CREInvestor #MultifamilyRealEstate #ApartmentInvesting #RealAssets #HardAssets #LongTermInvesting #BuyAndHold #CashFlowInvesting #CapRate #ValueAddRealEstate #RealEstatePortfolio #WealthBuilding #InflationHedge #InvestmentStrategy #PassiveIncome #RealEstateMarket #InvestorMindset #BlueStateInvesting #MarketCycles #RiskAdjustedReturns #CapitalPreservation #SmartCapital #CREWealth #FinancialFreedom #RealEstateEducation #ProfessionalInvestors #GenerationalWealth CONNECT WITH BEN MURPHY:Email: ben.murphy@cinw.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-murphy-35968935 CONNECT WITH US   For more information about investing with AJ and Chris:  ·    Uptown Syndication | https://www.uptownsyndication.com/  ·    LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/company/71673294/admin/   For information on Portland Property Management:  ·    Uptown Properties | http://www.uptownpm.com  ·    Youtube | @UptownProperties     Westside Investors Network  ·    Website | https://www.westsideinvestorsnetwork.com/  ·    Twitter | https://twitter.com/WIN_pdx  ·    Instagram | @westsideinvestorsnetwork  ·    LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/groups/13949165/  ·    Facebook | @WestsideInvestorsNetwork  ·    Tiktok| @WestsideInvestorsNetwork  ·    Youtube | @WestsideInvestorsNetwork  

In this conversation, Shawn Griffith, a multifamily investor with Kraft Capital Investments, shares insights on investing in larger multifamily deals in the DFW area. He emphasizes the importance of understanding local market dynamics, identifying different types of property distress, and effectively managing multifamily assets. Shawn also discusses the value of local knowledge when investing out of state and provides an overview of his current projects and outlook on the DFW multifamily market.   Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind:  Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply   Investor Machine Marketing Partnership:  Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com   Coaching with Mike Hambright:  Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike   Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat   Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform!  Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/   New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club   —--------------------

Unlock the real foundation of successful investing with the 4 M's of real estate: Management, Money, Marketing, and Maintenance. Discover how each of the 4 M's works, why they matter, and how one weak link can cause your entire property to underperform.

In this conversation, Gino Barbera discusses the challenges of raising capital in the current economic climate, emphasizing the importance of understanding the business, creating connections with investors, and addressing their pain points. He highlights the need for financial stewardship and the psychological aspects of investor relations, advocating for a genuine approach to building trust and excitement in capital raising efforts.Sound Bites:"Try to connect with that person first.""Understand how the brain works.""Seek first to understand that person."Chapters:00:00 Introduction to Capital Raising Challenges02:39 Understanding the Business Before Raising Capital05:11 The Importance of Connection in Capital Raising07:43 Identifying Client Pain Points10:25 Finding Impact Together13:10 Knowing Your Stuff and Understanding Psychology15:45 Wrapping Up: Long-Term Goals in Capital Raising     We're here to help create real estate entrepreneurs... About Jake & Gino: Jake & Gino are multifamily investors, operators, and owners who have created a vertically integrated real estate company. They control over $350M in assets under management. Connect with Jake & Gino here --> https://jakeandgino.com. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of the Real Estate Pros podcast, host Micah Johnson welcomes Mario Brown, a seasoned investor in the multifamily real estate sector, particularly focusing on naturally occurring affordable housing (NOAA) in the Carolinas. Mario shares his journey into real estate, which began with a sales role at a home builder and evolved into a passion for community-focused housing solutions. He emphasizes the importance of aligning professional skills with community needs, leading to innovative approaches in property management and resident engagement. Mario discusses the operational challenges he faced and how they inspired him to create businesses that not only manage properties but also enhance the living experiences of residents.   Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind:  Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply   Investor Machine Marketing Partnership:  Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com   Coaching with Mike Hambright:  Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike   Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat   Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform!  Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/   New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club   —--------------------

Discover the best legal entity structure for commercial and multifamily real estate. In this training, I break down the exact framework I've used for 25+ years to protect my assets, minimize risk, and maximize tax advantages.You'll learn:Why commercial real estate requires a different ownership structure than single‑familyHow LLCs create a shield between your business assets and personal assetsThe truth about non‑recourse loans and why they're a game‑changerHow pass‑through taxation works and how depreciation can wipe out your taxable incomeWhy C‑Corps and S‑Corps are poor choices for owning propertyHow to structure multiple properties using a holding companyThe three biggest mistakes beginners make—and how to avoid themI am not an attorney or CPA. Always consult licensed professionals for legal and tax advice. 

What if you could combine BRRRR + creative finance and turn one ugly single-family home into three cash-flowing rental units—without needing the seller to accept a traditional discount? In this episode of the Get Creative Podcast, host Keola Keala interviews Justin Tuminowski (aka @realestatejustin) — Sub2 leader, Owners Club member, and New England micro-multifamily operator — as he breaks down a real deal he calls the “Creative BRRRR Burrito.” Justin shares how a simple direct mail relationship (plus consistent follow-up and a $5 Dunkin' gift card at the perfect time) led to a motivated seller giving him first right of refusal on a highly visible, distressed property in Southern New Hampshire. Connect with Justin: https://www.instagram.com/real.estate.justin/  Connect with Keola: https://www.instagram.com/keola_keala/ ➡️RSVP for a FREE Section 8 training with Pace (LIVE): https://subto.sjv.io/JK9LYE  ➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour ➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb  ➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace ➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing ➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb ➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW ➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG ➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit COMMUNITY MEMBERS! ➡️ Get Featured on the Get Creative Podcast: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeGuestForm Refer a Friend to SubTo: refer.nre.ai/subto Refer a Friend to TTTC: refer.nre.ai/tttc Refer a Friend to Gator: refer.nre.ai/gator PLUG IN & SUBSCRIBE Creative Real Estate Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/creativefinancewithpacemorby Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pacemorby/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PaceMorby TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pacemorby  X: https://x.com/PaceJordanMorby The Pace Morby Show: https://www.youtube.com/@thepacemorbyshow

Brian Ferguson and Brayden Robertson from Fergmar Capital break down how they consistently close 100–200 deals per year while owning over 1,300 doors — all in a small market of just 66,000 people. They explain why small markets can be a strategic advantage, how their single-family business funds long-term plays like multifamily and shopping centers, and the discipline required to scale without chasing big-city competition. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - Intro1:07 - An Overview Of Fergmar Capital3:38 - What They've Learned In The Past Year6:24 - Why They Hold Their Multi-Family Properties9:42 - Their First Shopping Center Deal & The Game Plan15:43 - Why They Don't Focus Only On Shopping Centers18:45 - How They Find Their Wholesale Deals25:40 - Doing Novation Deals31:19 - Learning From CG & Data They Want35:17 - The Worst Advice They Ever Received37:03 - Making Multi-Family Deals Work In A Tough Market40:12 - The Books They're Reading43:32 - Can You Die As A Real Estate Investor?45:09 - Closing Thoughts & Their Social Media45:47 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Fergmar Capitalhttps://www.instagram.com/fergmarcapital/ Website: Fergmarhttps://fergmar.com/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Whitney Elkins-Hutten of PassiveInvesting.com interviews Robert Martinez about his acquisition of the 118-Unit Waterchase Apartments in Humble, Texas. Instead of going down the usual investing route, Robert has decided to do a recapitalization and use a five-year floating-rate bridge loan. He breaks down his unique free structure, the attractiveness of long-term ownership, and what it takes to navigate a pretty scary and unpredictable real estate market. Don't miss this masterclass in asset management and value creation.

What happens to multifamily real estate when the market resets — and where is smart capital moving next?In this episode of the LSCRE Podcast, Craig McGrouther sits down with Ari Rastegar, Founder of Rastegar Capital, to break down real estate cycles, capital flows, and large-scale development across Texas.Ari shares his journey from law to institutional real estate, and offers a candid look at:How multifamily investing changes during a market resetWhy capital flows are shifting away from traditional officeThe role of institutional investors vs accredited investorsDevelopment timelines, zoning, and entitlements explainedWhy underwriting discipline matters more than everTexas population growth, housing shortages, and long-term demandMaster-planned communities, industrial projects, and 3D-printed housingHow smart operators create value through cycles — not just bull marketsThis conversation dives deep into multifamily development, investor alignment, and long-term wealth creation, with real examples from Austin, Dallas, and the I-35 corridor.Learn more about LSCRE:www.lscre.com

Which commercial real estate asset type is right for you—Multifamily, Mobile Home Parks, Self‑Storage, Flex Space, or Mixed‑Use? In this podcast, Peter Harris delivers a direct, no‑nonsense, head‑to‑head comparison of the pros and cons of each property type so you can understand where the real opportunities and challenges lie.

In this engaging conversation, Paul Shannon discusses the nuances of being an investor versus an entrepreneur in the real estate space. He emphasizes the importance of asset agnosticism, multiple exit strategies, and the evolving role of limited partners in today's market. The discussion also touches on current market conditions, investor sentiment, and the significance of teamwork in multifamily investing. With a focus on long-term wealth building and strategic decision-making, the conversation provides valuable insights for both seasoned investors and newcomers alike.TakeawaysThere's a distinction between being a good investor and a good entrepreneur.Asset agnosticism allows for flexibility in investment strategies.Having multiple exit strategies is crucial for risk management.Day one cash flow is important to ensure stability in investments.Floating rate debt can be risky in volatile markets.Limited partners are becoming more educated and cautious.Investor sentiment is improving but still cautious after recent market challenges.Teamwork is essential in multifamily investing to cover various skill sets.Long-term wealth is built through patience and strategic investments.Current market conditions suggest a cautious approach to new acquisitions. Chapters00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage02:11 Investor vs. Entrepreneur Mindset03:56 Asset Agnosticism in Real Estate06:49 Frameworks for Evaluating Deals12:15 Long-Term Financing Strategies15:43 Current Cash on Cash Returns20:16 The Limited Partner Perspective27:02 Shifting Sentiments Among LPs30:52 The Future of Syndication and LP Education33:18 Navigating Market Cycles and Investor Mindset34:56 The Importance of Partnerships in Investing36:13 Balancing Entrepreneurial Spirit with Investor Discipline38:08 Understanding Local Market Dynamics40:40 The Role of Interest Rates and Economic Indicators42:59 Operational Excellence in Multifamily Investments46:15 The Entrepreneur vs. Investor Mindset49:13 Personal Habits for Success52:39 Bold Predictions for the Multifamily Market We're here to help create real estate entrepreneurs... About Jake & Gino: Jake & Gino are multifamily investors, operators, and owners who have created a vertically integrated real estate company. They control over $350M in assets under management. They have created the Jake & Gino Premier Multifamily Community to teach others a simple three-step framework for investing in multifamily real estate. Connect with Jake & Gino here --> https://jakeandgino.com. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Send us a textIn this exclusive billionaire fireside chat, Richard C. Wilson sits down with Grant Cardone to talk about cash, scale, real estate, and why he's now blending apartment cash flow with Bitcoin liquidity.From taking a $350M Boca Raton asset out of bankruptcy from Blackstone, to raising $1.8B+ in equity directly from investors instead of Wall Street, Grant walks through how he thinks about capital, risk, and building a portfolio designed to last decades.What you'll learn:

We'd love to hear from you. What are your thoughts and questions?In this conversation, Kent Ritter shares his journey from a management consultant to a successful real estate investor, emphasizing the importance of family, partnerships, and strategic decision-making in business. He discusses the pivotal moment that led him to leave the corporate world, the lessons learned while scaling his multifamily business, and the significance of bringing property management in-house. Kent also highlights the value of hiring the right people and creating a strong company culture, as well as innovative approaches to property renovations.Main Points:The decision to leave a corporate job was driven by a desire for family time.Scaling a business requires effective partnerships and delegation.Long-term thinking is crucial in real estate investments.Bringing property management in-house can enhance performance.Hiring the right people is essential for business success.Company culture should align with core values.A one-day renovation process can be efficient and cost-effective.Understanding risk-adjusted returns is key to successful investing.Avoiding bad deals can save significant money in the long run.Success in real estate often comes from steady, incremental growth.Connect with Kent Ritter:kent@hudsoninvesting.comhttps://hudsoninvesting.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/kentritter/https://www.instagram.com/ritteronrealestate/ https://www.youtube.com/@ritteronrealestate495

Michael Becker of SPI Advisory discusses the state of the Texas multifamily market as 2025 comes to a close. Michael explores key trends, including rent growth challenges, operational hurdles, and the impact of immigration policies on workforce housing. Also, Michael shares insights on SPI's recent acquisitions, financing strategies, and the importance of certainty with deal execution. Looking ahead to 2026, he predicts market recovery, with rent growth and value stabilization driven by reduced supply and Texas' strong economic growth. Listeners can also learn about the upcoming Old Capital Bus Tour and how to connect with SPI Advisory for investment opportunities. To join the January 16th Old Capital Bus Tour: OldCapitalPodcast.com Are you ready to unlock the potential of Multifamily Syndications? Discover how Michael Becker's proven real estate syndication business can open doors to financial growth and long-term success. Visit SPIADVISORY.COM today and start your journey toward smarter investing!

*Previously aired episode* Matt Faircloth interviews Jonah Bamberger of Aulder Capital, diving into his journey from growing up in Maryland, serving in the Israeli military, and transitioning into real estate investing. Jonah shares how he started with rent-stabilized multifamily in Brooklyn, expanded to suburban areas along the East Coast, and recently ventured into development in Portugal. The conversation covers the importance of networking, regulatory challenges in different markets, and the shift in real estate opportunities amid changing economic conditions. Jonah also discusses how Aulder Capital is focusing on value-add multifamily deals in the U.S. while leveraging unique opportunities in international markets. Jonah Bamberger CEO Based in NYC, Maryland, Myrtle Beach, Portugal Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Brianna K Hunter transformed her life through courage, mentorship, and strategic investing, revealing an inspiring path toward personal freedom and long-term success. This one's for anyone willing to take bold action.See full article: https://www.unitedstatesrealestateinvestor.com/creating-your-path-to-rising-toward-a-bigger-life-with-brianna-k-hunter/(00:00) - Welcome Back to The REI Agent with Guest Brianna K. Hunter(00:09) - Warm Weather Banter and San Diego Backdrop(00:24) - Brianna Shares Her Current Focus in Multifamily Investing(00:47) - How Brianna Entered Real Estate and Bought Her First Property in College(03:03) - Growing Up in Connecticut and Early Success as an Agent(03:26) - House Hack Beginnings and Using FHA to Buy a Duplex(04:10) - Hands On Renovations and Learning Construction Skills(05:00) - Cash Flowing as a College Student During the COVID Market Shift(06:45) - Mindset, Risk, and Listening to Mentors Instead of Naysayers(07:43) - Appreciation of Duplex Cash Flow and Challenges of Today's Rates(08:16) - Dropping Out of College to Pursue Real Estate Full Time(09:36) - Transition from Neurobiology to Psychology and Human Development(10:02) - Mattias and Brianna Discuss College Value and ROI(11:06) - Education, Drive, and Why Degrees Don't Guarantee Success(12:38) - Scaling as an Agent and Working with Investors(13:54) - Outgrowing Connecticut and Preparing for the Next Big Life Move(15:12) - Brianna's Grandmother Inspires a Cross Country Leap to San Diego(16:21) - Moving to California with No Job and Starting Over Completely(16:31) - Selling Her First Investment Property and Leveraging the Equity(17:19) - Apartment Hunting Without a Job and Signs of Alignment(18:06) - Day One Hustle: Printing Resumes and Knocking Doors in San Diego(19:11) - Landing a Restaurant Job and Transitioning into an Investment Company(20:45) - Learning Fix and Flip, Acquisitions, and Leadership From Mentors(21:05) - Jumping Into Multifamily Syndication and Working for Herself(21:58) - Syndicating Across Multiple States and Market Differences(22:06) - Value Add Investing and Stabilizing Properties in Three to Five Years(23:00) - The Long Term Equity Play in High Value Markets Like San Diego(23:33) - Brianna's Role in Raising Capital and Managing Investor Relations(24:24) - Becoming a General Partner and Vetting Opportunities for Investors(24:46) - The Alignment Between Agents and Syndications Explained(26:37) - Mattias' Personal Example of Depreciation and Syndication Returns(28:19) - Compounding Wealth, Bonus Depreciation, and Using a Self Directed IRA(30:02) - Cap Rates, Forced Equity, and How Operators Add Value(31:17) - Market Risks, Bridge Loans, and Why Understanding the Deal Matters(33:50) - Accredited vs Sophisticated Investors and Understanding Risk(35:38) - Golden Nugget: Lean on Mentors and Ask Questions Relentlessly(36:23) - The Importance of Your Circle and Surrounding Yourself With the Right People(37:30) - Current Reads: Free a Lot of Power and Personal Growth(38:14) - Where Listeners Can Connect With Brianna Online(39:15) - Closing Thanks and Final Messages From Mattias and EricaContact Brianna K. Hunterhttps://www.facebook.com/briannaKhunter/https://www.instagram.com/briannakayh/https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianna-kay-hunter-598b71380/https://www.tiktok.com/@briannakayh https://www.zillow.com/profile/Brianna%20K%20HunterThank you for joining us today. Brianna's journey proves that your next level begins the moment you choose courage over comfort and take action toward the life you want. For more powerful stories and tools to grow your future, visit https://reiagent.com

If you've ever wondered what actually separates the multifamily investors who scale fast from the ones who stall out, this conversation with Don Goff—RE Mentor's top coach for nearly 20 years—is the episode you can't afford to miss. Drawing from coaching over 1,800 students and two decades of real-world investing, Don breaks down the habits, mindset, and execution patterns that consistently create winners in this business. From the critical difference between treating real estate like a hobby versus a true business, to the real reasons some investors succeed quickly while others never gain traction, Don shares clear, practical insights directly from his coaching experience. If you're an investor or entrepreneur looking for the unfiltered truth about what drives long-term success in multifamily, this episode delivers clarity, depth, and hard-earned wisdom straight from the source.5 Key Takeaways to learn fromSuccess starts with disciplined consistency—not talent.Don emphasizes that the biggest differentiator between successful and unsuccessful students is whether they commit real business hours and follow through on them consistently. Being coachable matters more than technical knowledge.Many students fail because they reinvent the wheel instead of doing the exact action steps their coach gives them; the ones who follow direction win. Your personality doesn't limit your role—your habits do.Don, an extrovert who loves underwriting, shows that strengths can evolve: he and his partner eventually became skilled at both the analytical and relational sides of the business. Staying plugged into a community accelerates belief and momentum.Students who attend events, stay connected, and surround themselves with like-minded investors progress faster and stay inspired through challenges.About Tim MaiTim Mai is a real estate investor, fund manager, mentor, and founder of HERO Mastermind for REI coaches.He has helped many real estate investors and coaches become millionaires. Tim continues to help busy professionals earn income and build wealth through passive investing.He is also a creative marketer and promoter with incredible knowledge and experience, which he freely shares. He has lifted himself from the aftermath of war, achieving technical expertise in computers, followed by investment success in real estate, management skills, and a lofty position among real estate educators and internet marketers.Tim is an industry leader who has acquired and exited well over $50 million worth of real estate and is currently an investor in over 2700 units of multifamily apartments.Connect with TimWebsite: Capital Raising PartyFacebook: Tim Mai | Capital Raising Nation Instagram: @timmaicomTwitter: @timmaiLinkedIn: Tim MaiYouTube: Tim Mai Communication is a non-negotiable skill for every operator.Don stresses that investors tolerate challenges—but never silence. Transparent communication builds trust, and avoiding tough updates destroys it.

In this conversation, Dave discusses the potential for making money in real estate across various markets, emphasizing the importance of finding good deals and effective property management. He highlights the subjective nature of real estate pricing and the common misconceptions that can lead to undervaluation.   Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind:  Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply   Investor Machine Marketing Partnership:  Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com   Coaching with Mike Hambright:  Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike   Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat   Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform!  Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/   New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club   —--------------------

In this conversation, Preston Garcia discusses his journey into real estate, emphasizing the dual role of being both an investor and an agent. He shares insights on helping clients find their dream homes and explores various investment strategies. The discussion also covers navigating the current real estate market and anticipates future trends in the industry.   Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind:  Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply   Investor Machine Marketing Partnership:  Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com   Coaching with Mike Hambright:  Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike   Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat   Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform!  Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/   New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club   —--------------------

Neal Collier is not your typical real estate investor. Based in Los Angeles, he specializes in restoring vintage multifamily buildings—properties built in the 1920s or earlier—with a focus on preserving their historic charm while making them functional and desirable for modern tenants. In this episode of The Property Profits Podcast, host Dave Dubeau chats with Neal about his unique investing strategy, how he finances 100% of his acquisitions, and why he refuses to follow the crowd. Neal shares the nuts and bolts of his buy-and-hold approach, the kinds of returns he sees after restoring old properties, and how he finds deals that cash flow from day one—even in one of the country's most expensive markets. If you love design, strategy, and long-term thinking in real estate, don't miss this conversation. Watch the full interview on YouTube: https://youtu.be/3dJzKmFATdo Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/property-profits-real-estate-podcast/id1445202776 - Get Interviewed on the Show! - ================================== Are you a real estate investor with some 'tales from the trenches' you'd like to share with our audience?   Want to get great exposure and be seen as a bonafide real estate pro by your friends?  Would you like to inspire other people to take action with real estate investing?  Then we'd love to interview you!  Find out more and pick the date here:   http://daveinterviewsyou.com/   #vintagerealestate #multifamilyinvesting #larealestate #realestatecashflow #propertyprofits

Send us a textA seasoned investor explains how he pivoted from operations into multifamily, self-storage, and private lending.His advice: ignore flashy IRRs — invest in certainty, not promises.https://familyoffices.com/

In this episode of Loral's Real Money Talks, real estate expert John Casmon joins the show to talk about the power of multifamily investing and how he went from a W-2 marketing career to partnering on more than $145M worth of apartments. John shares how losing his job during multiple economic downturns pushed him to build a plan B through multifamily investing, and why partnering with the right teams can completely change your trajectory.We explore the three pillars of smart multifamily investing: market selection, team quality, and deal criteria. John breaks down how he evaluates markets, why he prefers B-class properties, and how investors can protect themselves in a shifting economy. He also shares his lessons from choosing partners, selecting vendors, creating deal criteria, and navigating market cycles with confidence.Whether you're new to multifamily investing or ready to scale, this episode gives you the clarity, strategy, and confidence to move forward.Loral's Takeaways:John Casmon's Journey from Corporate America to Real Estate Investing (00:05)Challenges and Opportunities in Real Estate Investing (02:20)The Role of Mentorship and Current Market Conditions (05:06)John Casmon's Deal Criteria and Investment Philosophy (08:09)Structuring Real Estate Deals and Lessons Learned (11:54)Lessons on People, Cash Flow, and Appreciation (16:24)Involving Children in the Real Estate Business (19:37)Meet John Casmon:Website: https://casmoncapital.com/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@JohnCasmonMultifamilyPodcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/multifamily-insights/id1269346577Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jcasmon/?hl=enMeet Loral Langemeier:Loral Langemeier is a money expert, sought-after speaker, entrepreneurial thought leader, and best-selling author of five books.Her goal: to change the conversations people have about money worldwide and empower people to become millionaires.The CEO and Founder of Live Out Loud, Inc. – a multinational organization — Loral relentlessly and candidly shares her best advice without hesitation or apology. What sets her apart from other wealth experts is her innate ability to recognize and acknowledge the skills & talents of people, inspiring them to generate wealth.She has created, nurtured, and perfected a 3-5 year strategy to make millions for the “Average Jill and Joe.” To date, she and her team have served thousands of individuals worldwide and created hundreds of millionaires through wealth-building education keynotes, workshops, products, events, programs, and coaching services.Loral is truly dedicated to helping men and women, from all walks of life, to become millionaires AND be able to enjoy time with their families.She is living proof that anyone can have the life of their dreams through hard work, persistence, and getting things done in the face of opposition. As a single mother of two children, she is redefining the possibility for women to have it all and raise their children in an entrepreneurial and financially literate environment. Links and Resources:Ask Loral App: https://apple.co/3eIgGcXLoral on...

If you've ever struggled with overcoming procrastination in real estate, this video is your roadmap. Gino Barbaro breaks down how to shift from hesitation to massive action using simple, proven frameworks inspired by Jim Rohn and Hal Elrod's Miracle Morning.In this lesson, Gino shares the exact three-step system that helped him move from procrastination to perseverance—both in business and life. You'll learn how to break down overwhelming goals into small, doable actions, why writing things down creates clarity and momentum, and how aligning your goals with your core values eliminates friction. Whether you're trying to close your first multifamily deal or build long-term habits, this episode reveals how overcoming procrastination in real estate is really about process, accountability, and personal growth. Gino also explains how tracking KPIs, building morning routines, and shifting your mindset can accelerate progress in any market.Connect with Gino Barbaro: https://jakeandgino.com We're here to help create multifamily entrepreneurs... Here's how: Brand New? Start Here: https://jakeandgino.mykajabi.com/free-wheelbarrowprofits Want To Get Into Multifamily Real Estate Or Scale Your Current Portfolio Faster? Apply to join our PREMIER MULTIFAMILY INVESTING COMMUNITY & MENTORSHIP PROGRAM. (*Note: Our community is not for beginner investors)

In this episode, we sit down with returning guest Paul Moore—investor, entrepreneur, and author with decades of experience across hundreds of deals and multiple commercial real estate funds. Paul shares timeless lessons on building real wealth, the difference between investing and speculating, and why “boring” assets like mobile home parks can deliver steady, lasting cash flow. He also opens up about his mission to fight human trafficking and how financial success can fuel meaningful impact. If you're looking to diversify, grow your portfolio, or use your resources for a greater purpose, this episode is full of wisdom and actionable insights. [00:00] "Wide-Ranging Talk with Purpose" [04:55] "Capital Stewardship and Leadership" [08:32] "Multifamily Investing vs. Speculation" [13:14] "Investing Wisdom: Buffett & Lynch" [15:43] "Boring Investing Brings True Wealth" [17:07] "Boring Investments, Eternal Rewards" [20:51] "Living a Fearless Life" [25:21] "Start Small, Build Stewardship" [28:46] "Improving Housing Communication & Ownership" [31:45] "Visionary vs. Implementation Struggles" [35:14] "Learning Through Failure" [37:39] "Building Legacy and Community" Connect with Paul Moore! Website LinkedIn Instagram Connect with The Cashflow Project! Website LinkedIn YouTube Facebook Instagram

In this conversation, Hayato Hori shares valuable insights for new investors, emphasizing the importance of learning from experienced individuals in the real estate business. He discusses various investment strategies, including active management and passive investment options, highlighting the flexibility available in real estate investing.   Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind:  Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply   Investor Machine Marketing Partnership:  Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com   Coaching with Mike Hambright:  Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike   Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat   Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform!  Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/   New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club   —--------------------

From Pharmacist to Real Estate Investor: Building True Wealth Through Commercial Real Estate.Dr. Tanh, PharmD, is a pharmacist turned real estate investor, host of the Wonton Wealth Podcast, and founder of Proton Capital. After earning his Doctorate of Pharmacy from the University of Cincinnati and pursuing a career in cardiology pharmacy, Tanh discovered his true passion—investing and building long-term wealth through real estate. What started with a single duplex in 2018 quickly grew into a thriving portfolio and a deep focus on commercial real estate. As the author of Value Over Volume: The Foundation of Commercial Real Estate Investing, Tanh now empowers others to achieve financial freedom, build meaningful relationships, and reclaim their most valuable asset—time. His journey proves that with education, discipline, and purpose, anyone can create lasting wealth beyond the 9-to-5 grind.Follow Tanh

Whitney Elkins-Hutten of PassiveInvesting.com interviews multifamily investing expert Ben Michel of Ridgeview Property Group as he recounts his impressive journey from a decade as a broker to a successful multifamily investor. Dive deep into the strategic acquisition and transformative renovation of the 36-unit Sky Hill Apartments in Champlin, MN, a C-building in an A-location. Ben shares invaluable insights on navigating the complexities of financing a 50% vacant property with a construction-to-permanent loan, the meticulous due diligence process with a seasoned team, and his effective capital raising strategies, including a 75/25 split and a 6% preferred return for investors. Learn about his long-term hold business plan, the importance of market timing for leasing in Minnesota, and the lessons learned regarding concessions to achieve full occupancy.

Pull up a chair. Pour yourself your favorite beverage. This one's personal, practical—and packed with value.In this compelling episode of the Multifamily Collective, I sit down with Chris Grenzig https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-grenzig/, a resilient New York native who took a leap of faith in 2020, trading the bustling streets of NYC for the sunny shores of Florida. With no prior property management or construction experience to speak of, Chris embarked on an audacious journey—acquiring a 16-unit property armed only with his grit, tenacity, and an insatiable curiosity to learn.Consider this: what does it take to transform such a bold vision into reality? Fast-forward to today, and Chris has not only navigated the complexities of the real estate market but has built a thriving enterprise, JAG Capital and JAG Property Management. He has successfully scaled his portfolio to over 150 units in Jacksonville, proving that with the right mindset and determination, barriers can be broken. His story is not just about numbers; it's about the intricate dance of relationships—managing everything in-house, from acquisitions to renovations, leasing, and resident relations. It exemplifies the power of commitment, the art of persuasion, and the importance of building trust within the community. Here, we uncover valuable insights and strategies that resonate deeply, whether you're in real estate or any field that demands perseverance and ingenuity. Join us and discover how Chris's journey can illuminate your own path to success.In this conversation, we go deep on:1 What it's really like running value-add deals from the ground floor2 Lessons learned the hard way from managing contractors and construction chaos.3 How to keep residents happy when units are in flux4 The mindset shift from operator to owner-operatorThis one brought me back to my own early days buying single-family homes and small multifamily properties. If you're looking to break into real estate—or take your current game to the next level—this is the episode for you.Grab your notebook. Hit play. And enjoy the ride.If this resonated, smash the like, hit subscribe, and share it with someone grinding toward their first (or next) deal.

 Everyone talks about building generational wealth in real estate, but few truly understand how to create a lasting legacy that outlives them. In this powerful episode, Gino Barbaro reveals the mindset and strategies behind building generational wealth in real estate — not just by owning assets, but by teaching the next generation to become financial stewards. Drawing from years of experience and interviews with legendary investors, Gino breaks down how to choose the right assets, know your exit strategy, and identify markets that will thrive for decades. He also shares lessons from real-world deals, including when to hold versus sell, how to structure seller-financed exits, and why focusing only on building generational wealth in real estate without passing on knowledge can be a costly mistake. Whether you're just starting your investing journey or planning your family legacy, this episode is a must-watch for long-term thinkers.Connect with Gino Barbaro: gino@jakeandgino.com | barbaro360.com We're here to help create multifamily entrepreneurs... Here's how: Brand New? Start Here: https://jakeandgino.mykajabi.com/free-wheelbarrowprofits Want To Get Into Multifamily Real Estate Or Scale Your Current Portfolio Faster? Apply to join our PREMIER MULTIFAMILY INVESTING COMMUNITY & MENTORSHIP PROGRAM. (*Note: Our community is not for beginner investors)

Discover why Class C multifamily properties offer huge value-add potential and learn 4 proven hacks to boost cash flow and force appreciation.Here's what you'll learn:What defines a Class C multifamily propertyWhy NOW is the perfect time to invest4 proven value-add hacks to boost cash flow and force appreciationReal-world math and examples you can apply TODAY

 Looking for a real plan for Multifamily Investing in 2025? Investor and operator Kent Ritter breaks down what's working now—Midwest focus, public-private partnerships, and bringing management in-house. In this episode, Kent explains how operators are adapting Multifamily Investing in 2025 to tighter debt markets and slower deal flow. We dive into why he pivoted from C-class value-add to newer assets and development, how TIF bonds and city partnerships can make construction pencil, and why centralizing leasing and operations boosts profit-per-unit. You'll hear lessons from a successful 80-unit ground-up project in Indiana, actionable hiring frameworks (yes, the “video interview” filter), and why the Midwest's fundamentals—job growth, steady rent gains, and shorter drive radiuses—are compelling. If you're refining your buy box, debating self-management, or exploring 55+ housing, this conversation gives you practical playbooks you can use. Multifamily Investing in 2025 rewards great operators—here's how to become one.Connect with Kent Ritter: RitterOnRealEstate.com • HudsonInvesting.com  Chapters:00:00 – Introduction 02:30 – Market shift since 2023: from C-class value-add to newer assets & development 11:03 – Systems > heroics: scaling and bringing property management in-house 21:21 – Development playbook: site control, bids, contingencies & partnerships 32:25 – The “why” of self-management: cost control, core values & all-star hiring We're here to help create multifamily entrepreneurs... Here's how: Brand New? Start Here: https://jakeandgino.mykajabi.com/free-wheelbarrowprofits Want To Get Into Multifamily Real Estate Or Scale Your Current Portfolio Faster? Apply to join our PREMIER MULTIFAMILY INVESTING COMMUNITY & MENTORSHIP PROGRAM. (*Note: Our community is not for beginner investors)

 Want to scale your real estate portfolio the right way? In this episode, Gino Barbaro breaks down the most important Multifamily KPIs that determine whether your deals are thriving or barely surviving. From Profit Per Unit (PPU) to delinquency rates and work order management, Gino explains how these key metrics turn a collection of properties into a sustainable business.   Learn how to apply Multifamily KPIs to measure success like a professional operator. You'll discover:How to calculate Profit Per Unit (PPU) and use it to boost NOI. Why work order closure rates directly affect tenant retention. How tracking delinquency helps prevent lost income and evictions. The difference between physical and economic occupancy—and why it matters.Whether you manage 10 units or 1,000, these Multifamily KPIs will help you create consistent cash flow and long-term wealth. Connect with Gino Barbaro and the Jake & Gino team: https://jakeandgino.com We're here to help create multifamily entrepreneurs... Here's how: Brand New? Start Here: https://jakeandgino.mykajabi.com/free-wheelbarrowprofits Want To Get Into Multifamily Real Estate Or Scale Your Current Portfolio Faster? Apply to join our PREMIER MULTIFAMILY INVESTING COMMUNITY & MENTORSHIP PROGRAM. (*Note: Our community is not for beginner investors)

If I had to start over, here's the exact strategy I'd use to rebuild my real estate portfolio—and you can use it to build yours too.In this podcast, I break down:How to reset your mindset and overcome fearWhy starting small with the right niche builds momentumThe power of off-market deals and relationship-based investingHow to build a lean startup team that gets deals doneWhat it really takes to raise money, even as a beginnerThe 4Ms of operational excellence every investor must masterWhy the long game is the only game and how to start today

Are you wondering how to buy multifamily in this market cycle? In this episode, Gino Barbaro breaks down exactly how to find, evaluate, and close multifamily deals in Q4 2025 — even as rents soften and financing tightens.Learn how to analyze your local market cycle, understand shifting rent trends, and identify opportunities while others sit on the sidelines. Gino shares three proven steps for buying your next multifamily property: picking the right market, understanding what you can afford, and building relationships with brokers and investors. Discover why how to buy multifamily in this market cycle depends on mastering your underwriting, networking, and long-term mindset. You'll also learn creative financing options like seller financing and syndication to help you scale.Connect with Gino Barbaro: https://barbaro360.com We're here to help create multifamily entrepreneurs... Here's how: Brand New? Start Here: https://jakeandgino.mykajabi.com/free-wheelbarrowprofits Want To Get Into Multifamily Real Estate Or Scale Your Current Portfolio Faster? Apply to join our PREMIER MULTIFAMILY INVESTING COMMUNITY & MENTORSHIP PROGRAM. (*Note: Our community is not for beginner investors)

 Developers are squeezing more value from tighter sites—Automated Parking Systems for Multifamily can make the deal pencil. Klaus Multiparking's Chris Tiessen breaks down costs, timelines, and real-world ROI. In this conversation, we explore how Automated Parking Systems for Multifamily unlock density, revenue, and approvals when conventional parking won't fit. Chris explains the major system types (independent stackers, puzzle parkers, fully automatic), typical price ranges (~$12k per stacker space, ~$20–25k puzzle, ~$60k+ fully auto), and why many projects hit a ~5-year payback. We discuss when to loop parking engineers in (schematic design), retrofits (ceiling height, site constraints), service coverage, and how AI (plate recognition, billing) will streamline user experience. You'll also hear about Klaus's new Kvario “puzzle-in-a-box” for open lots—perfect for mixed resident/public use (think stadium/game days). If you develop in dense submarkets or need a value-add lever, Automated Parking Systems for Multifamily could be the difference between “no” and “go.”Connect with Chris Tiessen: multiparkingusa.com Chapters:00:00 – Introduction02:39 – System types: stackers, puzzle, fully automatic (Mission Impossible vibes)06:04 – Cost per space & how to think about ROI08:13 – When to engage (schematic design) & install timelines13:30 – Typical payback periods (3–5 years) & monetization ideas20:20 – Markets, service model, and reliability21:39 – How AI will improve UX, billing, and access control33:26 – Gino wraps it up We're here to help create multifamily entrepreneurs... Here's how: Brand New? Start Here: https://jakeandgino.mykajabi.com/free-wheelbarrowprofits Want To Get Into Multifamily Real Estate Or Scale Your Current Portfolio Faster? Apply to join our PREMIER MULTIFAMILY INVESTING COMMUNITY & MENTORSHIP PROGRAM. (*Note: Our community is not for beginner investors)

People think being a multifamily operator is glamorous — that it's passive income, freedom, and kicking back while the money rolls in. The truth? It's chaos. In this episode, I take you behind the scenes of a real day in my life — juggling four jobs (multifamily operator, full-time teacher, surf coach, and waiter), nonstop phone calls, constant decision-making, and the family moments that keep me going. This is the unfiltered reality of what it takes to be an operator — and why maybe, just maybe, being an LP is the better move for some of you.

 The government shutdown and multifamily real estate market are more connected than you think. In this How-To episode, Gino Barbaro breaks down how a government shutdown can ripple through your investments — from USDA and Section 8 properties to loan processing delays and market uncertaintyWhen the government halts operations, multifamily investors can face serious ripple effects — delayed rent subsidies, halted USDA loans, and nervous capital markets. Gino explains why “guaranteed government money” isn't always guaranteed, how shutdowns affect Section 8 and HUD properties, and why investor confidence plays a crucial role in maintaining valuations. Learn what to watch for if your market depends on government or military jobs, and how to prepare your portfolio for prolonged shutdowns. The government shutdown and multifamily real estate conversation is one every investor needs right now.Connect with Gino Barbaro: https://jakeandgino.com We're here to help create multifamily entrepreneurs... Here's how: Brand New? Start Here: https://jakeandgino.mykajabi.com/free-wheelbarrowprofits Want To Get Into Multifamily Real Estate Or Scale Your Current Portfolio Faster? Apply to join our PREMIER MULTIFAMILY INVESTING COMMUNITY & MENTORSHIP PROGRAM. (*Note: Our community is not for beginner investors)

You'll learn why Kent chose individual investors over institutions, how he raised his first $1.5M for a 30-unit development, and the systems (EOS, vertical integration) that helped deliver consistent performance—averaging 19.7% annually across realized deals. We compare Institutional vs Individual Real Estate Investors on speed, control, red tape, and relationship capital, and dig into current market dynamics: 2024's supply bulge, concessions, and why disciplined builders could be positioned for a 2027 “2022-style” exit environment. We also cover buy-right criteria (jobs, income, net in-migration), operational updates every two weeks/quarterly, and practical first steps if you're moving from single-family into development. If you're weighing Institutional vs Individual Real Estate Investors, this conversation gives you a clear, operator-level playbook. Connect with Kent Roers: roerscompanies.comChapters:00:00 – Introduction00:42 – Institutional vs individual investors: real pros & cons02:46 – Starting in 2012: from SFR/lease-to-own to apartments06:29 – Laid off → first 30-unit development and raising capital10:49 – Assembling $1.5M equity & early investor objections18:16 – Deal flow today: referrals → Google Ads; average investor holds 8 projects24:14 – Where AI is actually helping (ops, accounting, leasing)29:44 – 2024 supply peak, concessions, and why Kent's still building45:30 – Gino wraps it up We're here to help create multifamily entrepreneurs... Here's how: Brand New? Start Here: https://jakeandgino.mykajabi.com/free-wheelbarrowprofits Want To Get Into Multifamily Real Estate Or Scale Your Current Portfolio Faster? Apply to join our PREMIER MULTIFAMILY INVESTING COMMUNITY & MENTORSHIP PROGRAM. (*Note: Our community is not for beginner investors)

 If you've ever wondered how to raise capital for real estate investing, this episode breaks it all down. Jake & Gino co-founder Gino Barbaro shares a step-by-step guide to mastering the art of raising money—from your very first deal to becoming an expert capital raiser. Whether you're funding your first duplex or managing millions in multifamily, this episode will help you raise capital with confidence and integrity.In this How To Raise Capital for Real Estate Investing lesson, Gino explains the three growth stages—beginner, intermediate, and expert—and exactly what to focus on at each level. You'll learn how to build a credible personal brand, create content that attracts investors, systemize your CRM and follow-ups, and develop long-term investor trust. Discover the mindset, skills, and systems used by top multifamily operators to raise capital consistently.Connect with Gino Barbaro at JakeandGino.com or email gino@jakeandgino.com We're here to help create multifamily entrepreneurs... Here's how: Brand New? Start Here: https://jakeandgino.mykajabi.com/free-wheelbarrowprofits Want To Get Into Multifamily Real Estate Or Scale Your Current Portfolio Faster? Apply to join our PREMIER MULTIFAMILY INVESTING COMMUNITY & MENTORSHIP PROGRAM. (*Note: Our community is not for beginner investors)

Creating a Multifamily Business Plan is the foundation of becoming a successful real estate investor. In this episode, Gino Barbaro breaks down the Buy Right, Manage Right, and Finance Right framework while sharing lessons from his own investing journey. Whether you're new to multifamily or looking to refine your approach, this video will help you build a clear path to long-term wealth.In this training, Gino explains why cash flow isn't the only metric that matters, how to evaluate challenging markets like California, and why every investor needs a defined exit strategy. You'll also learn how to view multifamily as a true business, not just an investment, and why treating residents and investors as customers leads to greater success. If you're ready to create a strong Multifamily Business Plan that fits your goals, this episode gives you the tools and perspective to make it happen. Connect with Gino Barbaro: gino@jakeandgino.com | barbaro360.com We're here to help create multifamily entrepreneurs... Here's how: Brand New? Start Here: https://jakeandgino.mykajabi.com/free-wheelbarrowprofits Want To Get Into Multifamily Real Estate Or Scale Your Current Portfolio Faster? Apply to join our PREMIER MULTIFAMILY INVESTING COMMUNITY & MENTORSHIP PROGRAM. (*Note: Our community is not for beginner investors)