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What does it mean to live gutsy? In this episode, we sit down with mindset coach Becky Mollenkamp, the powerhouse behind the Gutsy Boss brand. Becky's journey from journalist to entrepreneur to feminist coach is full of brave pivots, hard-earned wisdom, and a whole lot of intentional unlearning. After the sudden loss of her brother, she started asking the big questions—and her life hasn't been the same since. We talk about what it takes to break free from patriarchal conditioning, how people-pleasing sneaks into our lives and businesses, and why redefining success is an act of rebellion. Becky shares how she helps women-identified and nonbinary folks reclaim their agency, set boundaries without guilt, and build lives aligned with their values. If you've ever felt stuck in who you “should” be, this conversation will light something up in you. Connect with Becky:

What happens when you blend ancient wisdom with modern science? Meet Mei Lee, a powerhouse entrepreneur who retired from a 30-year career in finance to follow her passion for natural healing and skincare. Growing up in Hong Kong, Mei watched her father practice traditional Chinese medicine, instilling in her a deep respect for holistic wellness.  After years as an avid tennis player, the sun took a toll on her skin, leading her back to her roots. She founded Ageless Zen, merging herbal healing with cutting-edge research to create a skincare line that's as effective as it is natural. But Mei didn't stop there—she built a technology platform to help others launch their own skincare brands and launched the Ageless Zen Community Partnership to give back. In this episode, Mei shares the differences between Eastern and Western medicine, the power of persistence in entrepreneurship, and why integrity is non-negotiable. Get ready for an inspiring conversation about reinvention, resilience, and giving back. Connect with Mei & Ageless Zen: Ageless Zen Website – Explore and shop the products. Ageless Zen Community Partnership – Support an organization or become a partner. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our inbox by emailing wasitchancepodcast@gmail.com. Connect with us on TikTok and LinkedIn and help us grow those platforms! More about Heather via her website and connect with her on LinkedIn, YouTube, and BlueSky. Listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales Key Episode Takeaways: Eastern medicine focuses on natural healing with fewer side effects, a philosophy Mei built Ageless Zen on. After 30 years in finance, Mei embraced a new passion—creating a skincare line rooted in traditional Chinese medicine and scientific research. She's personally tested her products for five years, ensuring top quality and effectiveness. Entrepreneurship is a long game—don't quit, and surround yourself with a supportive community. Integrity is everything. She's committed to making sure her products actually work! Mei's Circle of Giving Foundation and Ageless Zen Community Partnership support important causes like metastatic breast cancer awareness and community fundraising. Failure isn't an end—it's a business opportunity. Mei's optimism helps her take risks and keep going. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ever feel like you're living a life that doesn't quite fit? Don Mammone knows that feeling all too well. After years of thriving in the hospitality industry, Don took a leap of faith, leaving behind the “shoulds” and societal expectations to pursue photography, coaching, and a life lived authentically. Heather and Alan go deep in this heart-felt conversation with Don about their journey of self-discovery, navigating identity, and challenging the binary mindset. As a proud non-binary advocate, speaker, and brand new author of Different Doesn't Mean Broken: Living Courageously Outside the Binary, Don shares what it means to embrace your truth, even when it scares the hell out of you. Don's story is a reminder that being different isn't a flaw—it's a strength. Grab your copy of Different Doesn't Mean Broken: Living Courageously Outside the Binary and learn more about Don's work at www.donmammone.com. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our inbox by emailing wasitchancepodcast@gmail.com. Connect with us on TikTok and LinkedIn and help us grow those platforms! More about Heather via her website and connect with her on LinkedIn, YouTube, and BlueSky. Listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS Authenticity Is a Superpower: Living as your true self isn't just freeing—it's transformational. Don's journey shows that embracing who you are changes everything. Risk Isn't Reckless: Real courage means owning your truth, even if it challenges the status quo. Ask the Awkward Questions: Don welcomes genuine questions about being non-binary—curiosity fosters understanding. Fail, Learn, Repeat: Don doesn't like failure, but they love what it teaches. Each setback is a setup for growth. You're Always in Control: Even when life feels out of control, you have the power to choose your path. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Originally aired Jan 30th, 2024, we are bringing this back because When the Tides Held the Moon is now available for (pre) order! Venessa Vida Kelley is a Washington, DC-based author, illustrator, and sequential artist. Her work focuses on magical realism, fantasy, and culturally diverse romance. Venessa has been featured alongside the works of such authors as Casey McQuiston, TJ Klune, Everina Maxwell, Sophie Gonzales, Becky Albertalli, Sarah Rees Brennan, Alexis Hall, Jennifer Weiner, and others, as well as the marketing campaign for Amazon Studio's highly-anticipated movie adaptation, “Red White & Royal Blue.” Her graphic novel debut, MANU FACES THE MUSIC, is in development with Oni Press, with her first illustrated adult historical fiction novel WHEN THE TIDES HELD THE MOON set to debut with Erewhon Books in 2025.  Connect with Venessa on: Instagram or her website. And support her work via Patreon and Etsy. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our inbox by emailing wasitchancepodcast@gmail.com  More about Heather via her website and connect with her on LinkedIn, YouTube, and BlueSky. Listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS Venessa dreamed of being an animator as a child and fell in love with sequential art Sequential artist is the fancy term for comic art One of the original viral “fan artists,” Venesssa never lost sight of her passion even when working in voiceover and marketing for The Federal Government When her day job got a little too heavy, Venessa would retreat to a novel for pleasure and create sketches from those works. A random share on Twitter turned viral and catapulted Venessa to the core of fandom love. Much of Venessa's artwork is driven by the desire to get books she loves in front of a larger audience. She has always worked to support BIPOC and LGBTQ authors and help raise awareness for their work. Venessa's art is mostly digital art because it's fast and doesn't take a lot of expensive resources but she begins with pencil and paper sketches. Eventually, it became impossible to have a day job and make art professionally. She chose her own graphic novel and we're all so glad she did. Be the ladder - Venessa loves helping other artists to value themselves and fight for their fair share, especially in the face of AI art. We love Venessa's approach to “failure” She believes in a “Bless your mistakes” approach to life. In the episode, we talk about emotional deficit - what it is and how to deal with it. There is NO wasted time - ever. All of Venessa's past experiences are showing up in her own work and she's wildly grateful for all of her experiences. It wasn't until Venessa was in her 30s that she began to untangle her identity and embrace her Queer identity. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jaclyn Goldis is a former estate planning attorney turned author and adventurer. After seven years practicing law in Chicago, Jaclyn left her career to travel the world with just a backpack, eventually settling in Israel to write full-time. Her fourth novel, The Safari, will be released in May '25, and her story is one of bold risks, creativity, and chasing dreams. Jaclyn always knew writing was her true passion. She describes leaving her legal career as both brave and inevitable, freeing herself from the weight of possessions and expectations. Traveling to places like South Africa, Bali, and Greece inspired her writing, and her creative process is deeply intuitive—she lets her stories guide her. Her first traditionally published book, When We Were Young, was written during her travels, though her heart lies in mystery and thriller genres, like her upcoming novel, The Safari. Jaclyn also shares how she found an agent, her relationship with failure, and the joy she finds in the creative process. Read Jaclyn Goldis's books: “When We Were Young,” The Chateau,” “The Main Character,” and pre-order “The Safari.” Connect with Jaclyn on Instagram. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our inbox by emailing wasitchancepodcast@gmail.com  More about Heather via her website and connect with her on LinkedIn, YouTube, and BlueSky. Listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales Key Episode Takeaways: Bold Choices Lead to Big Rewards: Jaclyn's decision to leave her legal career and travel the world with just a backpack was a leap of faith that ultimately allowed her to pursue her dream of becoming a full-time author. Creativity Thrives on Freedom: Letting go of material possessions and societal expectations gave Jaclyn the mental and emotional space to focus on her writing and embrace her true calling. Embrace the Journey, Not Just the Destination: Jaclyn's writing process is intuitive and fluid, allowing her stories to unfold organically rather than being rigidly plotted. Failure is Part of the Process: It took Jaclyn 20 years to kick off her career as an author, but she views failure as a stepping stone rather than a setback, focusing on joy and small successes along the way. Travel as Inspiration: Jaclyn's travels have deeply influenced her writing, with locations like South Africa and Bali serving as backdrops for her novels. Manifesting Success: Jaclyn emphasizes the importance of joy and intentionality in the creative process, whether it's finding an agent or letting a story come to life. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"There is enough space to go around - we can ALL show up and do the thing and be successful" - Jennifer Apple. Ever wonder what it's like to throw out the rulebook and chase your dreams full throttle? That's exactly what we're diving into on today's episode of Was It Chance with our amazing guest Jennifer Apple. From award-winning performances in "The Band's Visit" to launching the game-changing Empowered Artist Collective, Jennifer's all about keeping it real in the wild world of performing arts. She's that rare combo of crazy talented and totally genuine, and she's not afraid to color outside the lines to make things happen. In this episode, Jennifer opens up about everything from her earliest days as a child obsessed with singing to her clever (and slightly sneaky!) strategy for booking gigs. Whether you're a performer yourself or just someone who loves a good behind-the-scenes story, you'll want to hear Jennifer's fresh take on artistic life, why there's room for everyone to shine, and how embracing the messy parts of life can lead to your biggest breakthroughs. Connect with Jennifer on her website jenniferapple.net, Instagram or TikTok Check out The Empowered Artist Collective Podcast  Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via her website and connect with her on LinkedIn, YouTube, and BlueSky. Listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS Being a working artist isn't just about talent—it's about being bold enough to create your own opportunities. Jennifer's secret weapon for booking gigs proves that thinking outside the box pays off! There's no such thing as failure, only learning experiences. Jennifer's approach: give yourself grace, stay curious, and remember that every "mess up" is just data for your next attempt. Success isn't a zero-sum game. As Jennifer puts it, there's plenty of room for everyone to shine in their own unique way. No need to elbow anyone out of the spotlight! Want to grow? Embrace the gray areas! Life isn't black and white, and some of the best opportunities come from being comfortable with uncertainty. Multi-passionate isn't a curse—it's a superpower. Jennifer shows how leaning into different interests (performing, teaching, entrepreneurship) can create a rich, sustainable artistic life. The magic happens in the mess. Jennifer's love for workshopping new plays and musicals reminds us that perfect isn't always better—sometimes the best creativity comes from being willing to get messy and play. True artistry comes from staying rooted in authenticity. Through her Empowered Artist Collective, Jennifer proves that vulnerability and truth-telling are just as important as technical skill. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're in for a treat today as we chat with not one but two fantastic guests: Jen Ponton and Deborah Unger are incredibly talented performers who've built remarkable careers in theatre, film, and television. Their paths intertwined fifteen years ago during an old-school teleconference with a performance coach. The episode explores their individual journeys and the enduring power of their collaborative relationship.  Their upcoming show Maiden Mother Crone features their two solo shows: Jen's autobiographical solo show, Sugarcoated, and Deborah's deeply personal play, The Longer My Mother is Dead, the More I Like Her.  Jen and Deborah share their experiences navigating the challenges and triumphs of the entertainment industry, offering invaluable insights into building a career on your own terms. From Jen's powerful advocacy for body positivity and her work combating fatphobia to Deborah's evolution from musical comedy to critically acclaimed film and theater, this is a conversation brimming with inspiration and resilience. Learn how these two remarkable women have taken control of their narratives and built their own tables in a demanding industry.   Connect with Deborah and Jen to follow their incredible journey. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our inbox by emailing wasitchancepodcast@gmail.com  More about Heather via her website and connect with her on LinkedIn, YouTube, and BlueSky. Listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales Key Episode Takeaways: Building Your Own Table: Instead of passively waiting for opportunities, Jen and Deborah actively created their own paths, Authentic Storytelling's Power: Both Sugarcoated and The Longer My Mother is Dead... demonstrate the profound impact of honest, vulnerable storytelling. Resilience and Overcoming Obstacles: The episode details the numerous challenges faced by both women, from navigating the complexities of the entertainment industry to confronting personal struggles and societal biases (like fatphobia). The Value of Collaboration and Mentorship: The long-standing relationship between Jen and Deborah illustrates the immense value of collaborative partnerships and mentorship. Body Positivity and Challenging Societal Norms: Jen's outspoken advocacy for body positivity and her fight against fatphobia in Hollywood provides an important platform for discussion. Artistic Evolution and Reinvention: Deborah's journey showcases the transformative power of artistic evolution and reinvention. The Unique Demands of Solo Performance: Both women discuss the unique creative, emotional, and logistical demands of creating and performing solo shows. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Meet Pepe Muñoz, the artist whose path from professional dancer to renowned fashion illustrator and now Broadway performer will leave you inspired. With a career marked by intuition and bold risks, Pepe has seamlessly merged his passions for movement and visual art. From collaborating with Céline Dion to gracing the stages of Paris Couture Fashion Week and Broadway's Moulin Rouge, Pepe's story is a testament to the power of embracing one's versatility and trusting the universe's plan. Connect with Pepe on Instagram and TikTok. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via her website and connect with her on LinkedIn, YouTube, and BlueSky. Listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales Key Episode Takeaways: Intuition guides purpose: Pepe's decisions, from quitting a stable job to pursue illustration to taking on new performance roles, have been led by a strong trust in his gut feelings. Versatility is strength: Rather than limiting himself to one field, Pepe has allowed his various skills in dance, illustration, and theater to fuel his creative journey. Hard work meets opportunity: While Pepe has certainly seized chance opportunities, he emphasizes that his success stems from a foundation of relentless hard work and dedication. Self-definition holds power: Pepe believes that the labels you choose for yourself carry greater significance than external measures of success. Openness allows growth: Even at the height of his Broadway success, Pepe remains open to the universe's next path and how his skills can continue to evolve. Support nurtures the soul: Pepe credits his husband with providing constant reminders of his worth, highlighting the importance of a strong support system in any creative endeavor. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Imagine having a clarity of purpose and drive to pursue your passions that allows you to achieve more before age 17 than many do in a lifetime. Welcome to the world of Maddie Price, a teenage theatrical powerhouse who's turning her creative vision into a Broadway-bound reality. From her early days as the Mayor of Munchkinland to becoming a playwright, producer, and founder of her own production company, Maddie's journey is a testament to the power of embracing your talents, taking bold action, and believing in the impossible. With her sights set on showcasing teen voices and creativity, Maddie is not just making waves in the theater world - she's creating a revolutionary new model for what's possible when young people are given the chance to lead. Get ready to be inspired by her story, practical advice, and reminder that with passion, perseverance, and a bit of serendipity, we can turn even our biggest dreams into reality, no matter what our age. Connect with Maddie on Instagram, TikTok See, "355" in February at 54 Below.  Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales Key Episode Takeaways: Embrace your passion: For Maddie, her love of theater was clear from a young age. She encourages listeners to lean into their own passions, even if they seem lofty or challenging. The power of cold pitching: Maddie's a fan of reaching out to people and organizations she admires, even if it feels daunting. She believes there's little risk and potentially huge reward in putting yourself out there. Leverage available resources: As a teenager in today's digital age, Maddie knows that creativity and collaboration are more accessible than ever. She uses technology to work with her team and bring her vision to life. Failure is part of the journey: Maddie views setbacks and rejections as opportunities to learn and grow. She believes in facing challenges head-on and persevering, even when things get tough. The importance of community: Surrounding herself with like-minded, supportive people is crucial for Maddie. She's found valuable connections through her special school program and by seeking out other young creatives. Stay open to possibilities: While Maddie's focused on musical theater for now, she's also interested in exploring other creative outlets like books and screenplays. She advises listeners to remain open to where their passions might lead them. The power of teen voices: Maddie's work on "355 Revolution" showcases the talent and perspective of teenagers. She's proof that young people can create meaningful, impactful art when given the chance. Take calculated risks: From putting on a full musical production to networking with industry professionals, Maddie understands that taking risks is necessary for growth and success. Celebrate your wins: With her show headed to 54 Below and her production company thriving, Maddie knows how to acknowledge and enjoy her accomplishments along the way. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welp, we made it through yet another year around the sun. Or the sun has made one more revolution around the earth? Nope, flat earthers, you wrong. Anyhoo, join us for our final episode of the year - discussing some of our favorite interview moments, and moments in general, from 2024. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Meet Rowan Jetté Knox, the award-winning Canadian writer and human rights advocate who embodies the power of embracing change and living authentically. Rowan courageously shares his family's journey towards acceptance of both his middle child and wife's transgender identity in his bestselling memoir "Love Lives Here". This journey, marked by vulnerability and unconditional love, has normalized the existence of LGBTQ2S+ families and sparked international change. Rowan's advocacy extends beyond his personal narrative, confronting the stigma of mental illness and championing the rights of transgender youth. His work has earned him recognition such as the Order of Ottawa. Rowan's story is a testament to the transformative power of embracing truth and living authentically. He first started questioning his own gender while in therapy for deep trauma. Despite the challenges, Rowan has learned valuable lessons about self-worth, the importance of community, and the intentional risks necessary for growth. He reminds us that you don't have to transition to be Trans and encourages those questioning their gender to seek out Trans voices. Rowan's journey, including his own transition and non-monogamous relationships, is a powerful example of what it means to live a life true to oneself. Connect with Rowan on Instagram, Threads, or his website and grab a copy of his books Love Lives Here and One Sunny Afternoon. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales If you are struggling and need some support here are trusted resources. United States: The Trevor Project: A national organization providing crisis intervention and suicide prevention services for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and questioning young people. Available 24/7 at 1-866-488-7386 or by texting START to 678678. Trans Lifeline: A peer support service by trans people for trans and questioning folks. Call 877-565-8860. National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: Available 24/7 at 1-800-273-TALK (8255). Canada: Kids Help Phone: A 24/7 service providing support for youth. Call 1-800-668-6868 or text CONNECT to 686868. Trans Lifeline Canada: A peer support service by trans people for trans and questioning folks. Call 1-877-330-6366. Canada Suicide Prevention Service: Available 24/7 at 1-833-456-4566. EPISODE TAKEAWAYS Rowan's Journey: In 2014 Rowan would have described his family as a Mom, Dad and three sons. Shortly thereafter their middle child came out as a Transgender girl (later, non-binary), and then less than two years after Rowan's spouse came out as a Transgender woman. Consciousness of Truth: “We are more subconsciously aware of our truths than we think we are.” When Rowan's middle child came out he was, at the time, a well-known “mommy blogger” and the post sharing the coming out story of his child went completely viral. There was a little hate but also a massive out pouring of love. Expanding Love: Rowan's family adopted their middle child's best friend at the age of 15 and beautifully extended their circle of love. It was much easier for Rowan to give love and support to his Trans family members than it was to give it to himself. Self-Worth: When the world constantly teaches you that you are NOT worthy of love, it's nearly impossible to find yourself worthy. Rowan and his wife Zoè are in a Polycule relationship that began in 2022 and now they all live together, very happily, in Toronto. Important Reminders: Rowan wants to remind everyone that you do NOT have to transition to be Trans. If you're questioning your gender start following some trans folks on social media listen to what they have to say and learn from the source. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on Was it Chance, we're joined by Lyndsay Rush, the poet behind the viral Instagram account @maryoliversdrunkcousin. With her debut collection A Bit Much, Lyndsay has been making readers laugh and think about the big questions of life. From body image to aging to whether or not to have kids, Lyndsay tackles it all with her signature blend of humor, honesty, and a healthy dose of female empowerment. Tune in as we chat with Lyndsay about her journey from comedy writing to poetry, and how she's built a community of women who celebrate their true selves, weirdness and all. Connect with Lyndsay on Instagram, TikTok, or her website, and grab a copy of her book A Bit Much. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales Episode Takeaways: The humorous origin of her username "Mary Oliver's Drunk Cousin" Lyndsay's non-traditional career path from comedy writing to copywriting to branding Her journey deconstructing from evangelical Christianity and the "rage" she experienced How Lyndsay uses humor and joy to tackle big topics like body image and aging The surprising story of publishers competing for her work after she went viral Lyndsay's advice: embracing your weirdness is key to building a loyal community The distinction between Lyndsay and her persona, "Mary Oliver's Drunk Cousin" Lyndsay's acceptance of failure as part of the creative process The humorous discussion about conspiracy theories Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join us for a delightful conversation with Janusz Domagala, the charming and talented baker from The Great British Baking Show and Crime Scene Kitchen. Janusz shares his inspiring journey from Poland to the UK, driven by a desire to improve his English and live openly as his authentic self. We dive into his natural passion for baking, which began as a therapeutic hobby with his mother. Janusz reveals the surprising way he ended up on The Great British Baking Show, the intense casting process, and the unique experience of competing during the COVID season. He shares candid insights about judges Paul and Prue, the lasting bonds with fellow contestants, and the whirlwind of opportunities that followed his time on the show. We also discuss his exciting experience on Crime Scene Kitchen, the importance of queer visibility, and his empowering approach to embracing challenges and failure. This episode is a heartwarming celebration of pursuing one's passions and living authentically. Connect with Janusz on Instagram, and TikTok and grab a copy of his book Baking With Pride. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales Episode Takeaways: The power of pursuing opportunities for personal growth and self-expression. Baking as a form of therapy and creative expression. The intense process of getting cast on The Great British Baking Show. The unique experience of competing on a reality TV show during a pandemic. The importance of queer visibility and representation in media. Embracing failure as a crucial part of the learning and growth process. The value of a "why not try?!" approach to life's opportunities and challenges. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"You can't be what you can't see.' This is the hard reality many kids face when they don't see themselves reflected in the stories they read. This week on Was it Chance, we're shining the spotlight on the entrepreneur on a mission to change that narrative. Meet Kaitlin Johnstone, the powerhouse behind Kind Cotton. What started as a frustration in Kaitlin's kindergarten classroom has blossomed into a movement to put diverse books into the hands of kids. Through her clothing brand, Kaitlin is not just selling t-shirts – she's sparking a more inclusive future. With refreshing honesty, Kaitlin shares the lessons learned along the way, from redefining what success means to her to reframing her approach to failure. Tune in to hear Kaitlin's story and discover how one person's passion can create a ripple effect of kindness and change that resonates far beyond what we can imagine. GET YOUR KIND COTTON GEAR! We chatted a lot about Human Design - Curious to know YOUR Human Design? Get more information here. Connect with Kaitlin and Kind Cotton on their website, Instagram, and TikTok Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales Episode Takeaways: From Teaching to Social Impact: Kaitlin's experience as a kindergarten teacher in Florida revealed the lack of access to diverse books for kids. This sparked the idea for Kind Cotton, a clothing brand that raises money to provide these much-needed books. Pivoting in the Face of Challenge: When COVID-19 hit, Kaitlin decided to focus on Kind Cotton full-time rather than return to an unhealthy teaching environment. This pivot allowed her to build the brand and its impact. The Power of Representation: Books play a crucial role in providing representation for kids. Kind Cotton's monthly book fairs in the community and different schools help ensure young readers see themselves in the stories they read. Redefining Success: Kaitlin's definition of success has evolved from selling one product a day to feeling good about the positive change she's creating in the world. Her goal now is to put a million books into the hands of kids. Kindness Rooted in Justice: Kaitlin shares her definition of kindness as being rooted in justice, equity, and openness to change. It's about holding nuanced empathy, not just being nice. Gratitude Shifts Our Perspective: Kaitlin opens up about her struggles with negative self-talk and how connecting with gratitude has helped her approach failure in a healthier way. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What happens when a passion for social justice meets a gift for storytelling? You get Nikki Payne. By day, Nikki works as a civic anthropologist, making government services more accessible. But by night, she's a celebrated novelist, using her words to challenge the status quo and write Black women into the spotlight. Nikki's debut novel, Pride and Protest, has earned widespread acclaim, and she's joining us on Was It Chance to discuss how her diverse pursuits fuel her creativity. From her childhood love of documentaries to her current work in philosophy and fiction, Nikki is proof that embracing multiple passions can lead to something truly remarkable. Get ready for an inspiring conversation about the power of creativity, the importance of representation, and the journey of a woman who refuses to be limited by convention.   Grab both of Nikki's books: Pride and Protest, Sex, Lies and Sensibilities  Checkout Nikki's podcast Unbound. Connect with Nikki on Instagram or her website. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS The Power of Persistence: Nikki's story is a testament to the power of perseverance in the face of rejection. Her novel went from being deemed a failure to finding national success, showing that potential can be found in work others may initially overlook. Diversity Drives Innovation: By placing Black women at the center of her stories, Nikki is challenging the lack of representation in classic literature and offering fresh perspectives. Her background in anthropology ensures diverse viewpoints enrich her characters and plots. Writing as Social Change: Nikki sees her work as a way to spark a movement and incite change. She's proof that fiction has the power to challenge the status quo and push for a more equitable world. The Financial Reality of Creative Pursuits: While Nikki's story is one of success, she's candid about the financial challenges of making a living as a writer. Her journey highlights the need for more sustainable models to support emerging authors, particularly those from underrepresented backgrounds. Embracing Multi-Passionate Creativity: Nikki's work as both a civic anthropologist and novelist shows the value of embracing multiple passions. Her diverse pursuits fuel her creativity and offer unique lenses through which to view the world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode was originally released Feb 28, 2023 as episode 34. To listen to Lili's episode from Dec 2023 on The Theatre Podcast, click here. --- ORIGINAL NOTES --- Do you remember when our collective hearts broke watching “Connor's mom” breakdown in Dear Evan Hansen? Yeah, that was traumatic! And Lili Thomas does it every single night on stage as she performs the beautiful and devastating role of Cynthia Murphy for the North American touring company of Dear Evan Hansen. The child of two world-renowned classical musicians, Lili made her own path in the arts. She became a triple threat by training extensively in acting, singing, and dancing in addition to, of course, learning several instruments. She plays professionally on 6 different instruments. Lili recently completed the pre-Broadway run of Octet and is an acclaimed vocal coach, choreographer, director, and the hardest job of all, parent of two kids. She's kind, funny and crazy talented! Follow Lili and learn more on Instagram, grab tickets to see Dear Evan Hansen here, and make sure to stick around to the end of the episode for a fun, dirty joke form Lili! Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_ vickeryandco on Instagram and Threads, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS Being exposed to professional musicians helped Lili embrace chance as an entertainer. She randomly started singing with a live band at the age of 5 and people loved it. The thrill was real! Both of Lili's parents are world-renowned musicians but they didn't pressure her into playing music, which Lili considers a gift. Lili's performing love is musical theater - that's her creative home. She loves playing complex characters and embracing them fully which she does beautifully. It's really hard to balance being a parent and needing daycare with auditioning (as a job) because it's not a paying job but must be treated as a job. When she went back to theater it felt like breathing again. This is truly where she's meant to be. She has such a loving and supportive family who love seeing her pursue her dreams. Positivity and energy are the core of who Lili is and that's counter-intuitive to the role she plays in Dear Evan Hansen. When Lili needs to decompress and get into creative a space she needs total quiet and solitude (just like our co-host, Heather!). The most creative minds are also the most curious ones. Self-taping has become really dangerous for people - it drives perfectionist behaviors and that's just not possible. It sets unrealistic standards and puts undue pressure on actors (and kids!). Returning to the theater has been part of Lili's journey toward loving herself and it's magical. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join Heather and Alan as they welcome the inspiring Bret Shuford and Stephen Hanna, known as the Broadway Husbands, to the "Was it Chance?" podcast. This charismatic couple's love story began in the bright lights of New York's Broadway scene, where they met in 2007 while pursuing their passions for the performing arts. After falling in love and tying the knot in 2011, Bret and Stephen took a leap of faith in 2020, leaving the Big Apple behind and relocating to Houston to build a family of their own. Tune in as the Broadway Husbands open up about their journey to fatherhood, embracing their roles as gay parents, and helping others become better people, partners, and parents along the way. With their infectious energy and heartfelt honesty, Bret and Stephen are sure to inspire you to chase your dreams, no matter how big or challenging they may seem. Connect with Bret and Stephen on  Instagram, TikTok, and their Website  Join them for a LIVE Joy Chat on Instagram every Sunday at 8pm CST Watch the viral Fosse "taking out the trash" video! Episode Takeaways Bret and Stephen's story began in the unlikeliest of places: an AA meeting, followed by their first conversation on a Times Square subway platform. For Bret, the bright lights of Broadway had called him away from his small town, but the struggle to succeed was overwhelming. He realized his drinking had become a problem. Stephen, on the other hand, was living his dream and performing, but his drug and alcohol addiction threatened to derail everything he'd worked for. Both men had always dreamed of being fathers and had assumed they would adopt. But as life took them on different paths, they found themselves considering surrogacy. They bravely share their journey to parenthood in this episode. Through hard work and multiple income streams, Bret and Stephen have created a stable and loving home for their family. As influencers, they adore spreading joy and positivity – there's no room for negativity in their lives! "Moving to Texas was about reparenting myself and setting boundaries," Bret says. For him, this new chapter was a chance to rediscover himself. • Catch Bret and Stephen LIVE every Sunday at 8pm CST for their "Joy Chat" on Instagram. It's the perfect way to round out your weekend!  Stephen has a unique perspective on failure: "It's always fueled me." He believes in letting setbacks propel you forward.  Bret takes it a step further: "Be willing to fail, and fail publicly. Imperfection is how I've learned who I am and what I'm passionate about. That willingness to take risks, despite the fear, has defined my journey." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A true New York City legend from the vibrant streets of Brooklyn to the stages of Broadway and the forefront of fashion, Isaac Mizrahi has left an indelible mark on every field he touches. With a career spanning decades, he's become a household name known for his sharp wit, bold designs, and magnetic personality. Whether behind the scenes or in the spotlight, he consistently pushes boundaries and redefines what it means to be a modern-day Renaissance man. Was it chance that led him on this extraordinary journey? We'll find out as we speak with the iconic designer, performer, and television personality. This is a special crossover episode with Alan's solo podcast, The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales. See Isaac perform at 54/Below on Aug 28-31 Connect with Isaac on Instagram or his website. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales Episode Takeaways Isaac's Early Love of Performance: From a very young age, Isaac was drawn to the art of female impersonation, fueled by an insatiable desire to perform. This passion led him to attend a prestigious performing arts high school, where he honed his acting skills and nurtured his love of singing. Though fashion would later become a cornerstone of his career, his first love was always the world of performance. A Childhood of Contrasts: Growing up in a somewhat orthodox Jewish family, Isaac's early life was a study in contrasts. While his upbringing instilled in him a strong sense of tradition, he was also blessed with access to the vibrant worlds of creativity, theatre, and ballet. Armed with a subway pass, he eagerly explored the city, knowing that he craved a different path. Fashion as a Natural Talent: For Isaac, fashion is akin to cooking – some people simply have an innate ability, while others struggle to find their footing. With his father in the industry and a natural affinity for design, fashion came effortlessly to Isaac. Though acting remained his true passion, he recognized that fashion offered a more reliable means of making a living. The Authenticity of Performance: When on stage, Isaac believes in the importance of authenticity and honesty. He wears his heart on his sleeve, allowing his true self to shine through in every performance. This vulnerability is what creates a genuine connection with his audience. The Chanel Opportunity: While partnered with the esteemed House of Chanel, Isaac was offered an “out” from his fashion company. It was easy for him to step away from fashion because it was always a fallback plan. Isaac on Failure: With his trademark wit, Isaac has said, "Sometimes I think I am way better at failure than I am at success. Mostly I fail at things." But in his failures, he has found valuable lessons. He believes that it is through failure that we learn the most and become the best versions of ourselves. A Memoir Worth Reading: Those seeking a deeper understanding of Isaac's extraordinary journey should read his memoir, I.M.: A Memoir. This candid book offers a glimpse into the highs and lows of his life, shedding light on the experiences that have shaped him into the beloved icon he is today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Get ready to have your heartstrings tugged and your faith in new talent restored! This week, we're thrilled to welcome the soulful, soaring voice of Dallas Pritt to the Was it Chance mic. Dallas is the rising star the music scene didn't know it needed until now, and we can't get enough of his unique blend of pop, R&B, and soul. From Cold Emails to Collaboration This isn't a story about waiting for opportunity to knock – it's about dragging opportunity in by the lapels. Dallas shares how a bold, cold email to producer Joey Contreras set the wheels in motion for his debut single, "Somehow (Beautiful to Me)". Turns out, sometimes you have to be the one to create your own chance. No Plan B Allowed High school might've been a time of self-discovery for some, but Dallas was already making professional moves as the youngest performer in a summer stock program. Fast forward to today, and he's taking the stage as an Equity Actor in Disney World's Frozen production. For Dallas, there's never been a Plan B – only the unwavering pursuit of his dreams. Turning Rejection into Fuel You can't have a conversation about making it in the arts without discussing rejection. Dallas opens up about the inevitable 'no's' and how he's learned to trust the process, refusing to let failure define his journey. This is a must-hear for anyone needing a reminder that a 'no' is just a stepping stone to the 'yes' you're looking for. "Beautiful to Me" and Beyond Of course, we dive into the inspiration behind Dallas's powerful debut single, "Somehow (Beautiful to Me)". With its stunning vocal range and raw emotion, this is the kind of song that stops you in your tracks. But Dallas isn't resting on his laurels – he gives us a sneak peek at what's coming next, and trust us, you won't want to miss it. Tune in for: The surprising way Dallas landed his first big collaboration How he navigates the inevitable highs and lows of the industry A behind-the-scenes look at his creative process That voice... just trust us on this one Dallas Pritt is the kind of artist who reminds you why you fall in love with music in the first place. Don't miss this chance to experience his talent for yourself. Connect with Dallas on his website, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube. And make sure to listen to Somehow (Beautiful to Me). Key Takeaways: Opportunity often requires a push – be willing to take that first step, even if it's uncomfortable. Rejection is part of the journey, but it doesn't define your destination. Sometimes, the biggest risks lead to the most beautiful rewards. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What do mountain top farms, hockey, and a passion for queer romance have in common? You're about to find out! Get ready for a conversation that's as Southern-charming as sweet tea on the front porch. Meet Matthew Hubbard, the bestselling author of "The Last Boyfriend's Rules for Revenge". Growing up gay in rural Alabama, Matthew knows how it feels to be an outsider. But he turned that experience into fuel for writing the queer YA romances he wished he'd had as a teen. From mountain top farms to becoming a published author, Matthew's journey is all about embracing your true self. In this episode, he opens up about his rural Alabama roots and how that influenced his writing. He shares his journey from closeted teenager to bestselling author of unapologetically queer stories. Matthew gets real about the power of representation, how he found his voice through writing, and the importance of embracing your true self. Plus, he dishes on his creative process, overcoming self-doubt, and why failure is just an opportunity to take the scenic route. Get ready for a heartwarming, hilarious chat with the king of queer YA romance that's as inspiring as it is entertaining! Connect with Matthew on Instagram or his Website and get a copy of 'The Last Boyfriends Rules for Revenge.'  Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS Matthew grew up on a Mountainous farm in Rural Alabama The hope of getting “out” is what kept him going when he was hidden in plain sight In 6th grade, he started writing his own version of the “boy wizard book” by the author who shall not be named! An early adopter of Blog Writing, Matthew, found a passion for writing. And then when he discovered YA Queer romance things all started to come together. Stereotypes are based on some type of reality but they don't have to define us. Matthew wrote his main character, Ezra's, father to heal his own inner child. Boyfriends is an Unapologetically Queer book and Matthew embraces it! Although Matthew landed an agent with his first book, he wrote four before finally landing on 'The Last Boyfriends Rules for Revenge' which took off and became a best seller with a massive release. When the Flordia “Don't Say Gay” bill passed Matthew felt helpless. His book was a way to fight back. He felt free to be open and proud about himself, his queerness and he didn't care what other people thought. Creatively drunk - being uninhibited - that's Matthew's new approach to writing. Ego is required! “If I don't think that I'm the best I am going to start worrying that I am not the best” Make sure you give your loved ones a chance to show up for you. Don't make assumptions. “People come of age at different points in their life.” Matthew always puts a positive spin on things and, for him, failure is never a no, it's a how can I re-route myself. “Failure is a chance to take the scenic route” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Get ready for a healthy dose of inspiration, because Alison Luff's story is about to take your breath away. This talented triple threat has dazzled audiences in everything from Waitress to Wicked to a swashbuckling turn as a singing pirate (because, why not?!). But Alison's journey to the top wasn't always a cakewalk. Tune in to hear how she navigated the ups and downs of the industry, learned to trust her gut, and proved that sometimes the biggest risks lead to the greatest rewards. With her infectious energy and a heart of gold, Alison is the ultimate reminder that with hard work and a little bit of faith, you can achieve anything you set your mind to. From her early days as a tiny tot performer to her current status as a Broadway powerhouse, Alison has always followed her passion for the stage. Even when it meant missing out on prom or juggling the demands of motherhood with the bright lights of Broadway, Alison never lost sight of her dreams. And it's paid off in a big way. With a string of memorable roles, a side hustle as a rockstar, and a healthy dose of humor, Alison is a true force to be reckoned with. So, buckle up and get ready to laugh, cry, and be totally inspired by this unstoppable woman's journey. Trust us, you won't want to miss Alison's take on failure, imperfection, and what's next for this rising star. Grab Tickets to The Who's Tommy before the show closes on July 21st.  Connect with Alison on Instagram Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS The power of "no": The most pivotal moments in my career have been the result of my saying "no" – a testament to the importance of discernment and trusting my instincts. A New York City dream, sans safety net: Alison arrived in NYC in 2008 armed with neither a college degree nor an illustrious alma mater. She relied on her raw talent and tenacity to carve her path. Intuition as a guiding force: Alison possesses a keen sense of self-awareness, always listening to that inner voice that tells her what's right for her career and life. Motherhood meets Broadway: Two weeks pregnant, Alison took on the role of Mrs. Walker in The Who's Tommy in Chicago. Her baby boy soon became a beloved fixture backstage when the show transferred to Broadway, a testament to the warmth of the theatre community. Early beginnings, boundless support: Alison's journey in professional theatre began at age 9 with a starring role as Dorothy in The Wizard of Oz. Her supportive family fostered her talent from the very start. Prioritizing passion over tradition: Theatre was Alison's first love. She never regretted missing milestones like Prom; performances were where her heart was. A risk that paid off in spades: During a Mamma Mia! tour hiatus, Alison auditioned for a regional show despite the security of her touring contract. The universe responded immediately: she was offered a lead role in the Broadway production of Mamma Mia! the moment she gave her tour notice. Musical talents extend beyond the stage: Alison and her husband, Matt Magnusson, express their creativity as the band Big Sur Bound, with an album to their credit. Embracing the imperfection of art: Alison believes that "you can't be a perfectionist with art because there is no such thing as perfection." This mindset frees her to take risks and fully express herself creatively. Failure as a teacher, not a shackle: Alison's approach to failure is not to dwell on it, but to learn from it and move forward. This perspective allows her to continually grow as an artist. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Meg Shaffer is a true artist with a heart full of words and a soul full of stories, and her passion is nothing short of infectious. Get ready to be transported to a world of wonder and words! This week, USA Today bestselling author Meg Shaffer joins Heather Vickery and Alan Seales on Was It Chance to discuss her lifelong passion for reading and writing. Meg opens up about how she's always been inspired by the idea of crafting stories that transport us, much like her childhood hero Willy Wonka. She shares how the loss of her beloved cat catapulted her into darkness, but writing her breakout novel, The Wishing Game, was the light that guided her out. With her second novel, The Lost Story, set to be July 16, 2024, Meg discusses the bravery it takes to fully immerse yourself in a story and the magic that awaits us when we step into new worlds.  Our co-host, Heather, declared that reading ‘The Lost Story' was like entering a magical, queer adventure park she never wanted to leave - and we think you'll feel the same! Tune in for a heartwarming conversation about the power of words, the joy of getting lost in a good book, and why art will always be a little bit of magic. Get your copy of Meg's books ‘The Wishing Game' and pre-order her second novel, ‘The Lost Story' today. Then be sure to visit us on Instagram and share your favorite moments from the episode and the books!  Connect with Meg via Instagram or her website.  Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS Meg speaks to being brave enough to step into another world (which can literally be anything). Being able to step into a story always feels magical. As an author, Meg feels as if she “lives” in the story. It requires complete immersion and needs to be the first thing you think of in the morning and the last thing at night. “I fell in love with Willy Wonka in the 3rd grade” - Meg says she was always inspired by the idea of writing something like this. The loss of her 21-year-old cat is what catapulted Meg into the dark and writing The Wishing Game is what helped her come out of that weariness. Under the name Tiffany Reisz, she wrote spicy, dark romance Harlequin Romance Novels! Meg says she collects sentences like jewels - they are her deepest passion. She first noticed words and sentences at age 12 and never looked back Reading transports you for a reason and you have complete control over it. There is always a mind beyond art and that's magic. At the age of 18, she started writing original fiction she was writing her own stories, quit her day job (as a bookseller) at 32, and went into writing full time. There are two schools of thought for authors:  1. Poverty is a great motivator to get your shit done even if you're not a “self-starter.”  2. Don't make creativity the thing that pays your bills because then you'll use the magic Screenplays and TV scripts are fun because she can create them quickly Meg is willing to completely throw out a story and start over in order to produce the best book possible. She isn't attached to the work in a way that she fears being judged - she's committed to the next final product possible. Her next book, The Lost Story will be released on July 16, 2024 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What happens when a passionate broadcaster with a dream to be the next Robin Roberts transforms the media landscape for BIPOC and QTPOC creatives? Join us on "Was it Chance" as we dive into the inspiring journey of Anna DeShawn, the trailblazing force behind E3 Radio and The Qube. Discover how Anna's visionary drive and relentless pursuit of inclusivity are reshaping digital media and giving voice to those who need it most. Anna DeShawn is a celebrated multi-award and Ambie-winning podcast producer and host from Chicago, known for her pioneering work in media. She founded E3 Radio in 2009, an online station for queer music and news, and co-created The Qube, a platform for BIPOC and QTPOC creatives. Recognized by the Chicago LGBTQ Hall of Fame and Equality Illinois, Anna is a trailblazer in digital media. In our interview, Anna shares her journey from aspiring broadcaster to media innovator, discussing her passion project turned full-time gig, E3 Radio, the creation of The Qube, and her mission to amplify marginalized voices. She also reflects on the challenges of unlearning corporate behaviors, redefining success, and managing her creative flow. Check out Anna's website or Instagram. Be sure to catch Queer News on TikTok. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS In 2009 Anna started E3 Radio as a radio host who wanted nothing to do with podcasting. She was a “serious” broadcaster. Anna wanted to be Robin Roberts (the only Black Woman she had ever seen doing this work) She went to school to learn how to do that and ended up working on online broadcasting in the corporate space. E3 Radio was a passion project on the side. It's important to ask yourself what is the worst-case scenario. Is that really that bad? Get a copy of The Big Leap (get a copy here!) if you're looking to step into your zone of genius. It's easier for Anna to give “of” herself than to give “to” herself and there is not enough content out there at the intersection of race and sexuality. She saw a gap and decided to fill it. The QUBE is a podcast production company and a curated platform for Black and Brown podcasts. The QUBE is to podcasting what BET was to television. Balance comes because things ebb and flow - they have to.   There has been real work in unraveling what “corporate” says is successful vs. what we actually know to be successful for us. Learn how to manage freedom. Anna works best when it's dark outside so she arranges her schedule to accommodate that. The biggest challenge for Anna has been “unlearning” bad corporate behavior. “What does success mean to me today?” It may change and be redefined over and over again. Anna had to learn to own failure because you can't have success without failure. There is no failure, only feedback. Now she sits on new ideas to see how they develop and transform. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Laura Larios is a nervous system coach who's revolutionizing entrepreneurship for high-achieving women. Our conversation explores the profound impact of the nervous system on our thoughts, decision-making, and ability to avoid burnout, emphasizing the idea that our nervous system shapes our thinking patterns, rather than the other way around. Laura's approach is about fostering awareness of our often-overlooked nervous system, enabling individuals to transition from mere survival to growth and self-improvement. Through her journey from a creative student immersed in theater to a hospitality professional and ultimately a trailblazing entrepreneur, Laura is as compelling as her coaching technique. She credits the Polyvagal Theory as the moment she started to think creatively and out of the box. This is what led to her transformative perspective that integrates the nervous system with entrepreneurial success. Laura's work is a testament to the power of simple, quick exercises that can induce noticeable shifts in our state of being within seconds, potentially leading to the formation of new neurological patterns over time. Alongside practical advice, Laura shares personal reflections on her relationship with failure, re-wiring perfectionist tendencies, and finding valuable learning experiences in moments of discomfort. This episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking to understand the intrinsic connection between our nervous system and overall well-being. Connect with Laura on LinkedIn and Instagram. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS What is a nervous system coach? The thoughts we have, avoiding burnout, making decisions - our nervous system is core to everything we do in life. Get out of survival mode and into growth. The state of your nervous system creates the thoughts, not the other way around. The body informs the brain. We are not consciously aware of our nervous system all the time - Laura's work is about creating that awareness. Laura has always been a highly creative person. She did theater in middle school and high school. But it was her Psychology class in High School that really blew her mind. As a Psychology student in college, she realized there was something missing. She felt like things were going in circles. Being in the hospitality industry really prepared her for being an entrepreneur.  When Laura discovered The Polyvagal Theory everything changed and she saw a way to connect the nervous system with entrepreneurship. She started by doing the work on and for herself and then expanded it into a business. You can tell the state of someone's nervous system by the tone of their voice. When we chance the tone of our voice, it effects the people around us. This work is about being able to hold all of the things, the thoughts, emotions etc … and not allowing those things to shut you down. Scientifically proven that improv helps you reduce inhibition. Play is a “blended” state When we're in a survival state we can't even find a way to create change because we're frozen. Eventually, Laura decided to go into this unknown space and build something completely new and it worked! With nervous system work, less is more. The tools are simple and take 30-60 seconds and you can notice a shift within a few seconds. And once your body recognizes a shift you crave more of it. It takes 62-68 days to build a new neuro pattern  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to "Was it Chance" where we peel back the layers of serendipity to uncover the hard work and opportunities behind what looks like mere chance. In today's episode, we bring you a conversation with the extremely handsome and talented Andy Mientus, a true maverick of the stage and screen. From accidentally becoming one of Broadway's first social media managers to his heartwarming experience with Dolly Parton on the set of Heartstrings, and one amazing Broadway production credit after another, Andy's journey is one you don't want to miss. Andy shares with us his belief in staying proximate to your aspirations, even if the connection seems tangential, and how this philosophy led him to astounding opportunities—like touring with Spring Awakening and soaking in the Wicked Tour which felt like a "warm bath.” We're also have some juicy revelations—such as Alan Seales' surprising stance on Sondheim, the unexpected significance of The Met Gala for the theatre community, and the personal tales of failure that Andy calls his "close friends," teaching him resilience and the art of bouncing back. Moreover, Andy gives us a glimpse into his life beyond the stage lights. As a best-selling author of YA books and an actor who's not shied away from portraying significant LGBTQ+ roles, like the openly Gay character Hartley Rathaway in The Flash, Andy is a testament to the diverse avenues of artistic expression. And, if you stick around till the end, you'll be treated to pecial rendition of "Shut the Fuck Up Alan!" by Andy himself. Prepare to be inspired, entertained, and perhaps a little starstruck—this is an episode you won't want to miss! Connect with Andy on Instagram. Get his books The Backstagers series: Backstagers and The Ghost, Backstagers and The Theater of the Ancients, Backstagers and the Final Blackout as well as his latest book, Fraternity. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS Live Theatre may be the last frontier when it comes to avoiding AI Andy says he stumbled in the back door for every professional experience he's ever had Back in college, Andy stumbled upon Spring Awakening (by past WIC Guest, Stephen Sater) and he fell madly in love. He started a Facebook group for fans of the show and, thus, became one of the first-ever Broadway Theater social media managers. Not long after that, he auditioned for a role in Spring Awakening and joined the tour. Choose to be close to your goals, even if they are tangential. NEWSFLASH - Alan Seales doesn't resonate with Sondheim!  Working with Dolly Parton was a highlight for Andy and he was thrilled to act with her in an episode of Heartstrings that featured a Gay storyline with a happy ending. Tune in to hear why The Met Gala is a super important event for the theatre world (which most people don't know!). Being part of the Wicked Tour was like “a warm bath” for Andy because the show is always a wonderful, welcoming experience. Mientus has a rare neurological disorder called HNPP (Hereditary Neuropathy with Pressure Palsies). Andy is not just a live theater actor, he's also a TV and Film actor including playing the supervillain, Hartley Rathaway, in The Flash who is an openly Gay character in the series! Failure is one of Andy's close personal friends. He says he fails several times a week and it never gets easier but it's always a learning opportunity you can get better at dealing with, most of the time. Stay until the end of a special Andy Mientus rendition of Shut the Fuck Up Alan! tick, tick…Boom! runs June 5 to June 15 at the historic Cape Playhouse in Dennis, MA where Broadway goes to summer since 1927 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Turn Self-Doubt into Self-Empowerment! Katie Horwitch, the powerhouse behind WANT: Women Against Negative Talk joins Heather and Alan to explore a world where our inner critic often holds the mic, Katie shares her journey of flipping the script on negative self-talk, providing listeners with the tools to craft a more empowering internal narrative. Discover the subtle childhood origins of our adult self-talk and unravel Katie's personal transition from the stage to being the mastermind behind WANT. This episode is an amalgamation of personal anecdotes, deep-seated wisdom, and actionable advice on navigating (and embracing) the risks of pursuing your true calling. Tune in for an inspiring conversation that promises to challenge, motivate, and equip you with the language of self-love.   Connect with Katie on her Website and Instagram. Tiktok, and YouTube. And grab a copy of her best-selling book, WANT YOURSELF. Tune into her podcast WANTcast as well. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS Limiting voices and negative self-talk are often rooted in the smallest moments from our childhood. We often don't realize how these “small” experiences can have such a big impact. Self-talk is the inner dialogue and story we tell ourselves all day long Katie's deep seeded negative self-talk was centered around creating and performing for others but never being able to enjoy and experience for herself. Negative self-talk is not inherently good or bad - it's information and how you process tat information. Mental health was the catalyst for Katie to move away from theater and into the work of coaching. A dangerous eating disorder began to physically affect her ability to sing and perform, which is what she was in school to study. This is when she started to do the internal work to shift her patterns and behaviors. Changing negative self-talk can be very difficult for many people. You can't just “change your mind” and things are better. Everything requires a game - it's about the game you're willing to play. There can be a lot of fear and risk associated with following a purpose or “calling.” The biggest risks Katie felt she took were unknown financial possibilities getting into a newish field with blogging and online magazines and she felt the pressure of risk on being approved of and accepted in these new fields. Everything has a shadow side and can be manipulated. Do all things with integrity. Self-deprecation is dangerous but it helps people bring themselves together and find things in common. The key is recognizing the language you are using on a regular basis. Check yourself by asking this question “Do I want the reality of actually shifting? Or do I just like the drama of trying to figure it out?” Her book, Want Yourself, is based on the curriculum Katie created over the last decade. Discover your own personal “through line.” Katie has embraced being flexible in order to achieve desired outcomes. It's all give and take WANTCast is in its 9th year. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mark Daley describes his life as a series of wrong doors at the right time. Tune in as Mark shares his remarkable journey from growing up closeted and steeped in shame to political campaigns to pioneering LGBTQ+ rights, becoming a foster parent, and then reshaping foster care for at-risk youth. This episode will challenge everything you think you know about risk, family, and the power of unexpected moments to lead you home. Mark's story is a masterclass in turning the unexpected into the unforgettable. Tune in to uncover the life lessons hidden in unexpected places and learn why sometimes, the wrong door can lead you to exactly where you need to be. Don't miss this beautiful conversation with a man who found his voice, his purpose, and his family by embracing the twists of fate. Connect with Mark on his Website and Instagram. Learn more about The Foster Parent here. And grab a copy of Marks best selling book, Safe. Listen on Spotify Premium for free or support Indie bookstores and listen on Libro.fm. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS Mark's life has been all about “wrong door, right time.” Working on an election campaign is crazy because you know you're going to lose your job at some point. Mark started as an intern working on The Hill while still a college student. This led to eventually working on Hillary Clinton's first presidential campaign. Being around politics as a teenager sparked this interest in public office. Safe was about telling Mark and his family's story and seeing if it could make a difference for other families. Several members of Mark's family had come from Foster Care and it always held a special place in his heart. Growing up Gay often comes with a sense of shame, especially for people growing up in the 80's. What is One Iowa - The idea came to Mark in the shower (where all good ideas start). The message was not really about equality, it was about fairness. Thefosterparent.com was founded because Mark knew he could really offer was a way to recruit more foster parents and get more awareness of this issue. They do this via very targeted micro-campaigns.  Foster Care should always be about reunification but sometimes that simply is not possible. Mark connected with Lara Love Hardin as a Foster Parent who was empathetic towards the parents who have had children entered into the system. Taking risks is a major part of parenting but as a foster parent, it's more difficult because of all the rules.  FINAL page of the book Failure always leads to a lesson, or perhaps the opportunity simply wasn't the right thing for you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the beautiful world of queer romance with author Alison Cochrun. Hear about the stories behind her heartwarming novels that celebrate love's many hues and the courageous journey of self-discovery that echoes through her pages. From the award-winning "Kiss Her Once for Me" to the charm of "The Charm Offensive," and the excitement building around "Here We Go Again," Alison shares her thoughts on crafting the quirkiest, most endearing characters that resonate with readers everywhere. Discover how a feverish six-day writing stint morphed into an international bestseller, and why taking risks can lead to the most beautiful of love stories — in books and in life. Grab your favorite cozy blanket and a cup of tea; this is one conversation about life, love, and literature that you won't want to miss. Connect with Alison on her website and Instagram. Get copies of her books The Charm Offensive, Kiss Her Once for Me and Here We Go Again. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales **Content warning: We do talk about mental health and suicide towards the end of this episode.  EPISODE TAKEAWAYS Alison Cochrun chose “quirky, Queer romance” because she's always loved a “Happily ever after” but after reading “The Wedding Date” by Jasmine Gulliory she wanted to start writing her own. Alison didn't always intend to write Queer books because she didn't know she was gay until she was 33. Most of her writing when she was younger was Young Adult Fantasy Writing “The Charm Offensive” helped Alison come out and embrace her Queerness From a young age Alison knew she wanted to be a writer or a teacher. Low self confidence got in the way of writing at first. In her mid twenties Alison was super risk adverse and had a massive fear of failure that turned her off of writing and taking the teaching path. Alison wrote the first draft of “The Charm Offensive” in six days - it felt like a fever dream. Sharing that messy first draft was the intentional risk Alison took that lead to what is now an international best seller. Alison writes very personal stories and, thus, gives a lot of herself to the audience when she writes a book. Writing characters that are based on different parts of herself allowed Alison to develop a beautiful feedback loop between herself and readers. It allowed her to continue to be more vulnerable in her writing. Alison shares that there is a lot of writing that happens that isn't writing. It's about getting to know your characters and really understand them. Alison is a big fan of former Was It Chance guest, Venessa Kelley who has done art for Alison's work. Advice to up and coming writers: write the story you want to write - there are readers out there! Trust yourself. Winning the Lambda Literary award for best LGBTQ Romance in 2023 was an amazing moment in Alison's life. She is currently finding opportunities to teach writing and stretch her writing skills in new genres. Leaving her teaching career to be a full time writer was the greatest risk of Alison's life. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Step into a world where dance meets stillness, and artistry transcends boundaries. Join us as we uncover the magic behind James Jin's lens, where each click captures not just a moment, but a story. Discover how James's Artist Mindset transforms his subjects  into empowered, expansive artists, and learn why his work is more than just photography—it's a journey of self-discovery and expansion.   James Jin is a Brooklyn-based artist, singer, educator, and photographer on a mission to transform the experience of being photographed and “seeing” ones self. Through his Artist Mindset photo session, James helps clients tap into their more expansive selves, capturing stunning moments that transcend far beyond the shutter click. His work, showcased on Instagram and his website, reflects a unique blend of photo shoot, therapy, and guided meditation. Alan and James's chance encounter at a "Pretty, Witty and Gay Cabaret" (hosted by past WIC guests Jasmine and Cassidy) event sparked a conversation about the transformative power of photography as live, in-action coaching. James creates a safe, empowering space for vulnerability to shine, helping his subjects become more expansive artists. He encourages artists to step out of their comfort zones believing that discomfort leads to profound learning and growth.  Connect with James on his website and Instagram. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS Alan and James met by chance at one of Cas and Jas's “Pretty, Witty and Gay Cabaret” events The James Jin process is about creating an environment where people can feel safe enough to open up to being vulnerable while on camera James wants to help his subjects feel empowered to do this work for themselves This is really a live, in-action coaching experience using the art of photography as the vessel This experience helps you be a more expansive artist James was in High School when he first picked up a camera but it wasn't until post-college that he decided to make this a career. Dancers of New York was the “chance” encounter that really changed things for James. The idea of this was inspired by Humans of New York. His approach is “I will create opportunities for you to challenge yourself, go out of your comfort zone, and face your fears—because when you get better at doing those things consistently, you get closer to where you want to be.” Business school was how James learned NOT to do things. Ditching the “business as usual” approach. James credits Seth Godin for helping him think outside of the box with his work. The next phase of business is to work with artists for repeat sessions to build their confidence and support them as they grow and expand professionally  The moments filled with regret are also the moments where you learn the most and it's a gift to embrace them. When you feel discomfort don't run from it, explore it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From New York Times bestselling author comes a tale of personal redemption. Uncover the incredible journey of Lara Love Hardin in this intimate episode, Lara reveals her struggles, the power of self-forgiveness, and the profound impact of storytelling. Dive into a story of hope and the unyielding strength of the human spirit that promises to leave you inspired. Listen now - the story of Lara Love Hardin is one you won't want to miss. Connect with Lara on Instagram get a copy of ‘The Many Lives of Mama Love' Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS Lara didn't expect her memoir, “The Many Lives of Mama Love” to touch so many lives and provide peace to so many The books Lara works on, as a literary agent always have impact - that's what she's seeking to put out into the world Prior to releasing her memoir, she was living in a constant state of fear and shame - the book was a way to release all that fear and shame. Owning your story is so incredibly powerful Lara spent so much time trying to prove she was worthy and good enough but always afraid her past would take everything away Forgiveness is easy for Lara - with everyone except herself. When she wrote the chapter on “self-forgiveness” for Archbishop Desmond Tutu's book she had to face this head-on and it changed the game “Reading was my first addiction” - reading was an escape and a way to protect herself If you want to be a writer you have to read and read and read With a natural aptitude for writing Lara got a lot of attention and approval at school and she craved more of that Writing is a way for Lara to feel good There's a very special gift to be able to write in the voice of others Collaborative writing and ghostwriting are, basically, the same thing Two years out of jail and on probation, Lara was struggling to get a job. When she saw a Craigslist post for a part-time literary agent assistant When someone believes in you, you rise above and beyond their expectations - we all need to be believed in Lara worked her way up to CEO from Idea Arcitechs and then left to start her own agency, True Literary. True Literary's mission is to help create books and content that entertains, transforms, provokes, and inspires (not necessarily in that order). Starting her own agency was about the freedom to choose who she worked with and what books/authors she took on and also being able to decide how she wants to spend her time and be fully free “There is no room for creativity when you're in survival mode” The Gemma Project is about gender and trauma-responsive care for incarcerated women Stay tuned because Lara's memoir is being optioned for a made-for-TV film It takes a lot to shake Lara, she doesn't fear failure because she doesn't personalize it. It's all just feedback Hope can be squishy but Lara's philosophy is “I look forward to looking back on this someday” and she loves it when people underestimate her. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Anoushka Lucas is a singer, songwriter, actor and theatre composer. Raised in London, Anoushka spoke French before she spoke English, and has a degree in Russian and Italian from Oxford University. Anoushka has been writing songs since the age of 14 and has been described as “an exceptional voice and a great songwriter” (Jamie Cullum, BBC Introducing 2017). Her debut album, Dark Soul, was produced by Martin Terefe (Jamie Cullum, KT Tunstall, Martha Wainwright) and was released in July 2019.   Anoushka is starring in U.Me: The Complete Musical, which boasts a new original soundtrack and is performed by the BBC Philharmonic Orchestra. The Book is by Simon Pitts and Theo Jamieson with music and lyrics by Jamieson (The Famous Five, Everybody's Talking About Jamie, Here Lies Love), and the music has been produced by music producer Steve Levine, who has worked with the likes of Culture Club, The Beach Boys, The Clash and many more. Listen here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w13xtvgg Connect with Anoushka on: Instagram or her website. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Venessa Vida Kelley is a Washington, DC-based author, illustrator, and sequential artist. Her work focuses on magical realism, fantasy, and culturally diverse romance. Venessa has been featured alongside the works of such authors as Casey McQuiston, TJ Klune, Everina Maxwell, Sophie Gonzales, Becky Albertalli, Sarah Rees Brennan, Alexis Hall, Jennifer Weiner, and others, as well as the marketing campaign for Amazon Studio's highly-anticipated movie adaptation, “Red White & Royal Blue.” Her graphic novel debut, MANU FACES THE MUSIC, is in development with Oni Press, with her first illustrated adult historical fiction novel WHEN THE TIDES HELD THE MOON set to debut with Erewhon Books in 2025.  Connect with Venessa on: Instagram or herWebsite. And support her work via Patreon and Etsy. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS Venessa dreamed of being an animator as a child and fell in love with sequential art Sequential artist is the fancy term for comic art One of the original viral “fan artists,” Venesssa never lost sight of her passion even when working in voiceover and marketing for The Federal Government When her day job got a little too heavy, Venessa would retreat to a novel for pleasure and create sketches from those works. A random share on Twitter turned viral and catapulted Venessa to the core of fandom love. Much of Venessa's artwork is driven by the desire to get books she loves in front of a larger audience. She has always worked to support BIPOC and LGBTQ authors and help raise awareness for their work. Venessa's art is mostly digital art because it's fast and doesn't take a lot of expensive resources but she begins with pencil and paper sketches. Eventually, it became impossible to have a day job and make art professionally. She chose her own graphic novel and we're all so glad she did. Be the ladder - Venessa loves helping other artists to value themselves and fight for their fair share, especially in the face of AI art. We love Venessa's approach to “failure” She believes in a “Bless your mistakes” approach to life. In the episode, we talk about emotional deficit - what it is and how to deal with it. There is NO wasted time - ever. All of Venessa's past experiences are showing up in her own work and she's wildly grateful for all of her experiences. It wasn't until Venessa was in her 30s that she began to untangle her identity and embrace her Queer identity. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Imagine leveling your life up video game style. Well, good news - you don't have to imagine it because Steve Kamb has created it. Steve is the nerd who founded NerdFitness.com to help average folks, nerds, and misfits level up their lives. White working a job he hated, Steve started NerdFittness as a way to bring a little joy into his life and share what he's learned about fitness as a nerd who didn't make the team and, ok, also to help people avoid the same mistakes he made when he started his own journey. Connect with Steve on Threads and Instagram, or his website. Find NerdFitness here. EPISODE TAKEAWAYS What is “NerdFitness?” Steve has always enjoyed working out but was cut from his high school basketball team even though his brother was the team captain. Turns out nutrition is more important than anything else when it comes to  Fitness.” Since Steve truly hated his door-to-door sales job he was willing to learn, try new things, and take a chance on a wild new business. Strict routines simply are not for everyone. It's okay to skip a day and then go back to something that works for you. If your routine makes you want to give up, try something different. After a visit with college friends and 14 months in a job he hated, Steve decided to pick up and move to Atlanta.  In Atlanta, he started working for a company that does floating music festivals. This was an awesome sales and marketing job. Steve was given a lot of free reign to explore and try new things in his new role and it laid a beautiful foundation for what would become Nerd Fitness. The “chance” that really changed things was when Steve realized he could do things that he enjoyed and had fun with. After leaving his full-time job and going all in on Nerd Fitness Steve decided to be a digital nomad for a year. Early on in the business, Google changed its algorithm and, suddenly, Steve's blog posts went from 100 views a month to 150,000 a month! Steve built his business bit by bit. He just kept showing up and doing the thing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's your word for 2024? Happy holidays and have a wonderful new year, everyone! Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Paula Lafferty is a writer whose story is as inspiring as it is extraordinary. From the early days of jotting down snippets of imagination in journals that littered her parent's house, Paula's journey led her to a pivotal moment during the pandemic when she discovered the vibrant communities of BookTok and WriterTok on TikTok. It was there that she rediscovered her voice and reignited her passion for storytelling. Fueled by her unwavering determination, Paula is standing on the cusp of releasing her debut novel, "La Vie De Guinevere," in the fall of 2024. But this isn't just a story; this conversation is an invitation to be part of Paula's remarkable journey. Starting this January, you can support Paula's pre-kickstarter campaign for "La Vie De Guinevere.”. By following her journey, you can witness the magic as it unfolds, and consider joining her Kickstarter to support the birth of a literary legacy. Join us in celebrating Paula's incredible tale of resilience, creativity, and the power of taking intentional risks.  Connect with Paula and follow her self-publishing journey on TikTok, and Instagram, and join her newsletter list so you get all the information as soon as it's available. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales **Content warning: We do talk about mental health and suicide towards the end of this episode.  EPISODE TAKEAWAYS Paula started writing “snippets” of stories when she was young. This was her version of journaling. She calls them the graveyard of unfinished stories. Her writing style includes oral narration so that the story comes out as intended. Finding TikTok during the deep days of the pandemic and stumbled upon BookTok and WriterTok. Something shifted within her then. “I don't want to get to the end of my life and think about all the things I didn't do because I was afraid I would fail. That is what regret is made of.” Paula pursued traditional publishing because she really wanted someone else to tell her she was good enough! And she was able to get a publishing contract was due to her large social media following. But in the end, she chose self-publishing to take her Social Media family with her along the journey. Getting a film degree was Paula running away from writing, even though she was writing scripts it still felt like hiding. After the death of a dear friend, Paula realized she didn't want to pursue something that didn't truly light her up and left filmmaking. Paula is an eternal optimist and often discovers failure only in reflection. Pre-kickstarter for La Vie De Guinevere will start in January. La Vie De Guinevere will be released in fall 2024 but in the meantime follow Paula and her journey and consider being part of her Kickstarter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Meet Chris Sabol and Billy Aberle the creative team behind the new musical, Straight Forward a musical built on a true story. Billy is the Founder and CEO of a theatrical tech startup, Prodooser and the co-founder and a board member of StraightForward's producing partner, Pivotal Productions, a non-profit educational-based theatre company.  Chris is a proud public school music educator in New Jersey. He is also a co-founder and current Artistic Director of Pivotal Productions. Their collective directorial credits are vast and if we ever want to get to this interview we don't have time to list them all. Connect with Chris on Instagram. Connect with Billy on Instagram. Follow Straight Forward on Instagram. Listen to Heather's original interview with Mike Iamele where he shares his and Garret's story first hand.  Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKAWAYS Chris and Billy met at Wagner College and sparks just flew. Pivotal Productions was born right after College.  They started officially working on Straight Forward way back in 2014 Bringing this musical forward right now is perfect timing as we're, finally, seeing a lot of Queer love representation in public art. Chris and Billy embraced opportunity and reached out to Mike and Garrett and asked to turn their story into a musical. This was their first co-writing project and it took a long time to learn each other and how to compliment one another. The Pandemic allowed them time to really dedicate the time needed to get this show together. After the workshop of Straight Forward, they took it to the New York Theatre Festival. Through Pivitol Productions, Chris and Billy are able to train, educate and employ young theatre artists to find their own voice and gain meaningful experience so they can have long, lasting careers in the industry. Prodooser is digitizing production and moving away from all of the archaic stuff in the industry. Billy's thoughts on failure: What did I learn? What will I do differently next time? Being receptive to more failure as a form of growth. Chris's thoughts on failure: My relationship with failure is more complicated. I tend to relish in the negative but am working through it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's time to meet Alan's twin. Ok. Brendon Kumarasamy is not actually Alan's twin but they are two peas in a pod for sure and it's so much fun to hear them ignite ideas and inspiration off of one another. The energy in this episode is pure fire with a heavy dose of laughter because that's what we do here on Was It Chance!  Brendon Kumarasamy is a master manifestor who created his business, Mastertalk at the age of 22 by showing up and showing up and showing up - he embraced really unexpected chances, took a lot of risks, and trusted his own intuition and passions. Through his work with MasterTalk Brenden coaches ambitious executives & entrepreneurs to become top 1% communicators in their industry. For Brenden, his work is there to foster his deeper passion which is to provide free access to communication tools for everyone in the world. Check out his super popular YouTube channel - MasterTalk, and find him everywhere else on the internet as well, including Threads where you can regularly find Heather challenging and asking questions. MasterTalk Website, Linkedin, Instagram,  Threads, TikTok. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram and Threads, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS: If Brenden was only allowed to be on one social media platform it would be LinkedIn because there's not a lot of competition for posting and sharing content. Branden considered him an anti-creative. He studied accounting in University. He stumbled upon communications by chance. How do we make communication/speaking feel like eating a tub of ice cream? The first 50 people Brenden coached, at the age of 20 - he didn't charge anything. He started as a mentor to other students. MasterTalk started because Brenden couldn't find anyone creating good content on being a better speaker and communicator.  Working with coaches has completely transformed Brenden's life. Public speaking is body language, learning how to smile, summarizing, saying someone's name. It's important to ask the right question. If you're getting answers to the wrong question it doesn't get you anywhere. “Communication is the accelerator of dreams.” “How would your life change if communication was easy?” “We're all lucky. We just need to figure out in what ways we're lucky.” Failure is a definition and a workout. The relationship successful people have with failure is very different than the relationship unsuccessful people have with it. How do you know which opportunities to pursue and which risks to take List them all out Follow energy, not passions - what brings you the most energy (that will lead you to your passion) On a scale of 1-10, how energetically excited would you be to work on this project for the next 10 years? Compare the items on the list. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We talk with Spoken-Word Poet, Rashan Brown, or you may know him by his stage name, Rush (The Mic). Rashan is the brilliant mind behind "Poetry Me, Please" – a vibrant community platform and event series that serves as a global stage for poets to let their creativity flow through the power of words. With showcases in NYC drawing in a whopping 500 people on an average night. Rashan has created something really extraordinary not only for the artists but also for audience members.  Rashan has been featured in PIX11, NBC, Ebony, REVOLT & The Grio. Rashan's voice and brand have partnered with LLoyd Banks, Harlem's Fashion Row, NY Independent Schools, Accenture, Columbia Business School, Republic Records, Rupi Kaur, TIER, AfroFuture, City Winery, The Cutting Room & SOBs. Connect with Rashan and Poetry, Me Please on their website, Instagram, YouTube and TikTok. Don't forget to book your tickets for the November Showcase at The Apollo on Saturday, November 25th  Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram and Threads, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS Poetry Me is a digital and physical platform for Poets all over the world. Rashan started writing poetry during High School Heartbreak After being a teacher for several years, Rashan found himself back in the spoken word world for a friend's Showcase. He was drawn to recreating this wonderful feeling but not charging the artists for performing. Poetry is a style of a collective of words you're putting together - in a “poetic style.” Spoken Word is the passion that you put behind the poetic style. It's tone, volume, body involvement. The intentional risk was in marketing himself and Poetry Me, Please. Rush (The Mic) is a performer who does all sorts of spoken word with corporations as well as showcases. Community is for poets in general but specific for Black and Brown poets. The crowd has a deep experience by hearing these spoken-word poets share their experiences on stage. Rashan is always focused on pouring back into the community. Poetry Me, Please is fully funded through ticket sales. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You might recognize him as the original 'Culture Vulture' from the groundbreaking show “Queer Eye For The Straight Guy,” but there's so much more to this incredible soul. Meet Jai Rodriguez, a force of creativity and passion who has been shaping American culture for nearly two decades. Jai is most well known for his role as a member of the original Fab Five in Queer Eye For The Straight Guy and we get so many great stories from his time on Queer Eye in this conversation but his journey is rich and beautiful.   This is such an inspiring, heart-centered conversation that is sure to fill your emotional cup!  Jai's journey began at the young age of 12 when he embraced chance and went to his first audition, followed by performing arts high school. Then at only 18, Jai graced the Broadway stage as 'Angel' in the critically acclaimed musical “RENT.” From there, he took the theater world by storm, appearing in iconic productions like “The Producers” and creating the unforgettable role of ‘Zanna' in the off-Broadway sensation “Zanna, Don't!”. But that's not all - he even headlined a Las Vegas residency with the hit show “Sex Tips For Straight Women From A Gay Man.” Jai shares behind the scenes from many of his theatre adventures in this episode. Set to make his debut at 54/Below on Oct 26-28, for his latest cabaret show “A Thousand Sweet Kisses” which promises an unforgettable performance filled with love, laughter, and personal stories, and it's a little bit naughty in all the right ways. Get your tickets to Jai's show “A Thousand Sweet Kisses” at 54/Below (there is even a virtual option!) and be sure to connect with Jai on Instagram, Threads, TikTok, Website. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram and Threads, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS: Jai has a theatre career that's spanned over two decades! A precious kid who was always finding a way to perform, Jai was always a theatre kid. 12-year-old Jai took intentional risk and called the first casting director to see if he had been cast in his first show. He was! After attending a performing arts high school, his mother refused to support a performing arts education for college. He snuck into the city to audition for an agent and instantly got signed to play Angel in RENT! You may never be the best at something but it's your uniqueness that sets you apart. Always be yourself and believe in yourself. RENT was Jai's “Waiter gig” in NYC. Jai took a 6-month leave of absence to do Zanna Don't and only making $400 a week (which was a massive pay cut) when he was asked to audition for Queer Eye For The Straight Guy. He was instructed to fabricate his backstory in order to be cast in Queer Eye. They aged him up and gave him a degree! This is the 20th anniversary of the original The Fab Five Jai's approach is to never punch down. Queer Eye was originally intended to be a comedy, no one expected it to be so heart-centered. Jai's show “A Thousand Sweet Kisses” at 54/Below is funny, honest, and racy! Audience members will include Queer Eye cast members and other celebrities. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Like all good 80's kids, Drew Stern loves a good Choose Your Own Adventure story. In fact, it's this approach that has led this former musical theater actor turned award-winning technology CEO to such great success. With three high-growth tech exits in the last decade, Drew's innovative spirit and passion for creative success have made him a trailblazer in the world of technology and the performing arts. Discover how Drew embraced chance and combined his two passions—performing and tech—to create Stageyo AI, the world's 1st digital marketplace and AI engine connecting stage performers with their supporters. Learn how he envisions using technology responsibly to foster authentic connections between performers, their art, and their patrons. Don't miss this inspiring story of intentional risk-taking and leadership that has earned Drew recognition as an influential CEO and celebrated entrepreneur. Connect with Drew and Stageyo AI on Instagram and on the web. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @heather_vickeryandco on Instagram and Threads, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS: Drew's career had two phases. He grew up the youngest of 5 and everyone performed constantly. Tech was unexpected.  Tech was a chance Drew embraced. If you want to be a great leader, go put on a play - this creates trust, creativity, team player, and being a great listener. No entrepreneur can do anything on their own. It has to always be a team effort. Getting venture capital investment is like auditioning, frustrating, scary, difficult and most of them don't book. You need to be able to see the future, then make it happen (manifest it), and then move on. Sometimes you have to close a great show. Growth is a combo of intentionality and embracing chance. You have to have the confidence to take the chance. Drew created his own Machine Learning AI platform well before AI was a household name. Stageyo was born from a desire to build things more emotionally aligned for Drew and allowed him to blend his two passions: Performing and Tech. Stageyo is about creatine agency, equity, and access around performing arts. It answers a need for authentic connection between performers, their art, and their patrons.  Technology is the great equalizer between agency, equity, and access. Envision, trust, and know your capabilities. Past successes allow Drew to play, test things out and really explore possibilities. There are two sides to the AI coin. There are great challenges to using it responsibly.  How can you use technology to enable people to enjoy things in real life - this is one of Drew's goals. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A globally renowned magician and performer, Asi Wind shares his journey in the world of magic and the art of performance, including his childhood encounter with a magician that shaped the rest of his life. He shares insights into his creative process, discussing how he designs and refines his tricks, always striving to balance perfection and enjoyment. Asi reflects on his views on failure, emphasizing the importance of learning from mistakes and finding beauty in imperfections. He speaks about the unique connection between a performer and their audience, highlighting the role of empathy and sensitivity in delivering a memorable experience. He also touches on various topics, including the significance of perspective, the inspiration drawn from everyday acts performed with care and attention to detail, and the idea of continuous improvement–providing a fascinating glimpse into the mind and philosophy of a dedicated magician and artist. This episode is a special crossover with Alan's solo podcast, The Theatre Podcast. Asi Wind is a highly acclaimed magician known for his innovative and captivating performances in the world of magic. He has performed all over the world and is currently sharing his talent on the off-broadway stage in "Asi Wind's Inner Circle" which is produced by David Blaine and is currently scheduled to until January 2024 at the time of this episode drop (it's already been extended at least 4 times – we lost count!). Connect with Asi: Instagram: @asiwind Youtube: @asiwind Twitter: @asiwind Facebook: @AsiWindsInnerCircle Magician REVEALS trick and still fools Penn & Teller!!! - Asi Wind on Penn & Teller: Fool Us Connect with Heather and Was It Chance: Slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files Follow Was It Chance Connect with The Theatre Podcast: Support us on Patreon: Patreon.com/TheTheatrePodcast Threads, Twitter & Instagram: @theatre_podcast TikTok: @thetheatrepodcast Facebook.com/OfficialTheatrePodcast TheTheatrePodcast.com Alan's personal Instagram: @alanseales Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sometimes those with the quietest voice make the biggest impact. Analena is an experienced Human Design & Energetic Alignment Coach, Life, Health, and Mastery Level Coach. She is also certified in Energy Healing modalities like Emotional Acceptance, Infinity Healing, and the Rapid Relief Technique.  She supports Conscious Introvert Leaders to create Success on their own terms so they can enjoy life more while creating more Impact with Ease (and without the Burnout!). After going from BORED & UNFULFILLED TO... FIRED, she developed the BLOOM Framework, which integrates Human Design and helps her Clients activate and listen to their birth-given Success Strategy that is already hidden in their DNA. She is also a Co-Founder of the Aligned Living Academy where Conscious Leaders obtain their Human Design Certification. She currently lives in South Florida drinking Aperol Spritzes while watching Topgun Maverick on repeat and obsessing about African Elephants.  Connect with Analena on Instagram, or her website. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS: We recorded this episode on the 777 portal! Learn all about it. Trust yourself and put what you want into the world. Don't embrace the negative. Analena was raised that religion was fear-based not hopeful and helpful. That led to a path of spiritualness. Gutsy Analena started a new business while still working in corporate and at her annual review, she handed her boss her new business card. Talk about embracing intentional risk. The wellness industry can really screw you up. Be sure you're making aligned choices. Growth came when she learned to allow herself to feel crappy sometimes. To be honest about all of your feelings and emotions. Masculine energy is go, do, take action, get shit done. Feminine energy is about leaning back, being in your body, and tuning more into how you feel. It's about receiving and allowing what's meant for you to find you. For Analena, her masculine energy is more powerful when she leads with the feminine energy first. She has a gift of making things easy and practical. Any modality is only as power as the energy of the human putting it into play. Live the question! Analena's work is always starting from “you are whole.” And builds from there. What you resist persists. Your feeling want to be felt in order to be released. Less is more. Slowing down to QuantumLeap. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Whoa buddy are y'all in for a treat! For this episode Alan and Heather were live and in person in the middle of Time Square with Jasmine Rafel and Cassidy Hamilton - two brilliant Queer artists who are truly shaking things up! It was a conversation that none of us wanted to end. Jump in on this truly exceptional conversation between three lesbians and an Alan. From deconditioning gender “norms” to learning to express yourself no matter what and so much more. Don't wait to dive into this episode. Jasmine has over a decade of experience working in the dance industry for the likes of Ariana Grande, JoJo Siwa, Tori Kelly, and more, and is now making her Broadway debut as Imogen in & Juliet. Cassidy is a writer/producer who has spent her career developing new works theatre projects working underneath some of the industry's most successful producers behind projects like Broadway's ROCKTOPIA and The Trans Siberian Orchestra, and currently serves as an associate producer on AVALONA: An Immersive Musical.  Together, not only are they both producing Co-Founders of SKYLAR STUDIOS, they are also a queer couple working in the industry and have an upcoming show called Pretty, Witty, and Gay Cabaret coming up this Sept 27th at GreenRoom42 with a new cast of industry trailblazers from Broadway's biggest shows, such as & Juliet, SIX, Moulin Rouge, KPOP and more. They created this show to playfully challenge the heteronormativity of the American musical by providing a refreshing and exuberant new queer twist on your favorite Broadway hits. Connect with Jasmine on Instagram. Connect with Cassidy on Instagram. Grab your tickets to Pretty, Witty, and Gay! Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS: Live, in person, interview from Time Square  Gender “rules” deeply affect what artists believe they can and should be pursuing. It's time to get rid of them.  It's imperative that we create spaces for people can be on the outside what they feel they are on the inside.  Gender expression is not exclusive to the Queer community.  All art is always growing, changing, and expanding. Sometimes coming out and accepting a “label” is about other people because it's easier for someone else.  Once you make a choice to live your truest self it stops feeling like a risk and becomes required to survive.  Jasmine moved to NYC from LA in 6 days to take the job with & Juliet. This dream came true almost as soon as she decided to stop pursuing Broadway work.  As always, trust the universe because it has your back. Cass's heart belongs to new works and developmental theatre.  It's all about learning to trust yourself and put yourself out there.  Hold discomfort for a second longer than seems possible and seeing what shows up.  Try what your heart tells you to peruse! Listen to where the universes is pushing you.  Each failure is a stepping stone to the next best thing if you learn from it.  The dream changes. Allow it to change.  Get comfortable with the journey. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Performance is as much science as it is art says this week's guest, Javier Muñoz. But Javier also knows that the Universe is vast and always looking out for him.  Javier is one of the kindest, most sincere people on Broadway and this conversation is filled with beautiful moments so don't miss a second. With stage credits that include the 2006 New York Musical Theatre Festival's off-Broadway show hit All Is Love, In the Heights, and of course Hamilton (where he took over for Lin-Manual Miranda and earned the title of “Sexy Hamilton”). TV and film credits include of course the 2021 release of In the Heights, Blindspot, Odd Mom Out, Shadow Vaults, Eureka!, Central Park, Quantico, and Full Frontal with Samantha Bee. He is now starring alongside Jessie Mueller in My Heart Says Go, a musical concept album which is available for streaming now.  Connect with Javier on Instagram and listen to My Heart Says Go! Don't forget to catch the companion podcast Javier did on The Theatre Podcast With Alan Seales as well. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS: Although Javier is the youngest of three, he didn't reap the benefits of that position. From an early age, Javier recorded “Fame” and learned the dance moves and mashed them with popular music, and created his own music videos. In 5th grade, Javier went on his first camping trip and discovered a true night sky filled with stars and it fully changed him. From there his dream was Astro Physicist and study Astronomy. Science is just exploration, curiosity, and asking questions and that's exactly was a good actor does with a script. Javier was a first-generation college student. Mentors are, literally, everything! It took Javier a long time to become introspective and really look inside himself. In 2002 Javier got HIV and couldn't book a gig for anything so he quit the business and took a job at a high-end restaurant in Hell's Kitchen. He decided to do this one last show that his friend Josh has written and while in the rehearsal room, he meets someone who wants him to audition for In The Heights. He agrees to do two weeks at Manhattan Theatre Club. Unfortunately, his part in the show got cut and this lead to him taking over the lead after Lin-Manuel Miranda Next thing you know Lin-Manuel Miranda put Javier through “rap school.” When it came time for Hamilton, Javier and Lin teamed up again to create the character of Alexander Hamilton. Javier got a direct offer to do My Heart Says Go and he took it without even seeing the music and script. Whatever you chose is right, because you chose it. When things don't work out or go my way I really do trust that it's for a reason. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Erica Lynn is an American actress and dancer born in Bakersfield, California where she began her dance training at the tender age of 3. By 6 years old, she had caught the performing bug in her first theatrical performance as Molly in Annie the Musical. Erica began to pursue a professional career as an actress in 2016, starring in her first short film, It's the Taste. In 2020 she made her feature film debut in Netflix's The Prom, directed by Ryan Murphy. Follow Erica and learn more on Instagram.   Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS: Erica knew from the earliest age that she wanted to be an actress. Dance was her primary focus for years and found her way back to the theater through backstage. While Erica does feel fear and stage fright, she says that “performing feels like home.” She was active in competitive dance and it was about passion, not winning. Erica found her first agent by befriending a flight attendant who had a nephew in Glee, which she was watching during the flight. A series of crazy events. The Prom (movie) was filmed in California and it was Erica's first-ever film audition. Being on set for The Prom was a blast. Just a bunch of theater nerds having a great time together. Erica loves self-tapes and thinks this process was a positive to come out of the pandemic. Family Lead on Netflix coming out soon Failure is a common companion in the acting world but Erica stays hopeful, excited and engaged. Erica's favorite moment/memory from being on the set of The Prom was the ability to learn from more experienced actors on set. But having Kerry Washington checking in on her was a highlight moment.  Be the person you want to work with… That's how to be successful in this industry. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From Alan's dad jokes to real comedy! Afraid but failing forward anyway - This week we bring you Maria Shehata, a multi-award-winning Egyptian-American comedian based in London who has been featured on Showtime's Bridging the Gap, Comedy Central's The Watch List, Dave Channel's Comedy Guide to Life, Comic Relief's viral Modern Dating Horror Stories, and BBC's Period Dramas and Breaking the News. Her writing has been featured in Modern Love in the New York Times, Comic Relief, and BBC Radio 4. Maria was shortlisted as Top Five Best New Acts at the 2017 Edinburgh Fringe and showcased as Pick of the Fringe at the 2019 Edinburgh Fringe and she's featured in the upcoming, season 2 of Comedy Central Live.  She's about to go on tour so be sure to follow her on Instagram and TikTok and her website. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS: Maria grew up in Columbus, Ohio as a shy kid that never spoke up and was terrified of public speaking. She always admired comedians and how they captured the audience. Baby steps are the key to anything and everything you may want to be successful at. She surrounded herself with comedy in everywhere possible, expect performing, for a long time before she actually went on stage. The win was just showing up on stage. Stand-up can be lonely but she tests things out at small open mics and getting feedback from other comics. Fear is based on the unknown. Once you have experience and information the easier it is to show up and do big things. Preparation is everything in Standup. Connections and friendships make a massive difference when building a career in comedy. Failure is not trying. Everything else is learning. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Orgasms, vulvas, cramps, Oh My … Tune into this wildly fascinating conversation with Lauren Lee-Crane, founder of Semaine Health. Semaine Health provides plant-based, science-backed supplements that help people experience a better quality of life at every stage. Lauren and Semaine help break the taboos around periods, women's health, and menopause with their clinically backed supplements. Lauren embraced this journey after her own traumatizing and painful experience with stage IV endometriosis and says that starting her own supplement company wasn't nearly as painful as dealing with endometriosis! Connect and learn more: Semainehealth.com, Amazon, target.com, Walgreens, thrive market, and on social media: Instagram and TikTok. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS: Endometriosis is a condition where tissue similar to the lining of the uterus grows in other parts of the body, such as the ovaries and fallopian tubes. And it hurts like hell! Everyone needs to be talking about periods and have an understanding of what's actually happening to 50% of the population. After diagnosis, Lauren didn't want to talk about it at all. She would have ignored the pain forever but her body simply wouldn't let her. Her husband, a scientist, decided to create supplements to ease her pain. Semaine's supplements are plant-based, safe, and only need to be taken when they are on their cycle. There is a massive inequity in women's health across the world. It's so important to listen to your body and be patient. Semaine was well-received by almost everyone as it served a community of people who suffer from period-related issues.  Transitioning into peri-menopause, menopause, and post-menopause because a focus as women grew older and need a different type of support. Semaine Health offers supplements that support women, non-binary and trans folks with PMS and period support, daily hormone balance, menopause essentials, urinary tract support, pre and probiotic for gut health. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It turns out this guest is the older version of our very own Alan Seales. Get ready for excellent Dad jokes and a lot of laughs. Seriously though - Jeffery Madoff has a wildly inventive and creative brain and a masterful entrepreneurial spirit. For Jeff, barriers are simply not something that exists because his creative spirit always finds a way to thrive.  Jeff is a Fashion designer, teacher, author, playwright, and producer who helps dispel the myth that artists can't be good business people and that good business people can't be creative!  Jeff has directed award-winning commercials, documentaries, and web content for clients such as Ralph Lauren, Victoria's Secret, Tiffany, Radio City, The American Academy of Dramatic Arts, and Harvard University just to name a few. He's also the writer and producer for “PERSONALITY” a play based on Rock and roll hall of fame artist, Lloyd Price that just opened in Chicago in June 2023. Connect with Jeff on LinkedIn, Instagram, and his website.  Get Jeff's book: Creative Careers: Making a Living with Your Ideas See Personality in Chicago Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS: Jeff had no plan on what he was going to do but he was always seduced by ideas. Fashion design was never a passion but an opportunity.  He did have some merchandising experience from his parent's business when he was younger. Jeff put his designs on the back of a motorcycle, headed to Chicago, and made a name for himself. We make sense of our lives through the rearview mirror. By the age of 22, Jeff had over 100 people working for him. When Jeff decided to move to NYC he lost his financial backing. So he closed his company in Wisconsin and took off. As a young man with long hair in the 70's Jeff had to prove he had financial backing in order to be taken seriously.  Jeff has embraced opportunity over and over again through meeting other people, embracing storytelling, and being willing to simply try things that interested him. If you're paying attention everything you do plays a part in everything else you do. It's easier to start at the top and work your way down. You never know until you try and there's no reason not to go big. Jeff believes that you shouldn't say no to yourself. You shouldn't say no to yourself. If you're passionate about something give it a try. There are enough people that will say no to you. Don't say no to yourself. Jeff was his own fallback position. There was no other Plan B. He focuses on the goals rather than the obstacles in the way. The way to “run distance” is to break it down into smaller milestones and then celebrate those milestones. Perseverance is more important than talent. Jeff says he's smart enough to know what he doesn't know. After being a guest speaker for a class at Parsons, Jeff took a job as a part-time professor (he was actually hired by Tim Gunn!). His class is about Creative Careers. The way you talk to yourself makes a big difference in how successful you'll be. Opportunities are not opportunities if you don't recogonize them.  It was absolute chance that Jeff was introduced to Lloyd Price and that's what eventually led to Jeff writing and producing Personality which is now running in Chicago. Don't wait for someone else to make magic happen in your life, do it yourself. There's courage and there's confidence. Confidence is a capability that comes from repetition. Courage is stepping off the edge of the cliff and not knowing what's going to happen.  Doing a play is like a start-up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Amber Trueblood traveled across the country supporting her two oldest sons as they starred in the hit musical The School of Rock and along the way she picked up some lessons, while traveling and homeschooling, that eventually made their way into her new book The Unflustered Mom. This book teaches moms (and all parents) practical and achievable strategies for reducing anxiety and overwhelm.   She's also a licensed marriage and family therapist, best-selling author, speaker, and mother of four sons. She has over 25 years of experience in mental health and co-founded The M.E.C.A. Project to help teens and young adults thrive Mentally and Emotionally through Conscious Awareness. Amber has been featured in People, Oprah Magazine, CNN, Motherhood Maternity, Good Day LA, and many more.  Connect with Amber on her website, and Instagram. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS: Amber chose to homeschool her kids. This started when their glow-up for learning started to fad in traditional schools. Things worked out nicely when her two oldest sons went on tour with School of Rock. Amber's approach to life and parenthood has been to make it fun and not focus on the challenges or pressure. Amber wrote her first book, Stretch Marks, While touring with her family - this was her way of focusing on herself and prioritizing her own needs while being the main planner, packer, and organizer for a family of 6 on tour and homeschooling. Find your own anxiety style with this short, free quiz. Amber leans into creativity, especially things she's not an “expert” at to help channel frustration and the challenges life throws at you. Take your risk on the road. Amber really embraces the “what's the worst that can happen” mindset and tries new things. Life approach: Slow down. Enjoy the present moment. Being grateful. Celebrating daily wins. Just take the first risk. TAKE THE RISK and see what happens. You will likely surprise yourself with the results. Be particular about who you share your ideas and work with. You can take risks without turning yourself inside out and allowing people to walk all over you. And be very clear about what you want after you share. It's your responsibility to take risks in a way that maintains your self-care and preservation. Preorder the Unflustered Mom. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Creative success comes in many many different formats and we're sharing something totally new to Was It Chance today! Meet Julie Civiello Polier - she is, literally, the aesthetician to the stars.  Julie is a licensed aesthetician – specializing in gua sha and reflexology – Reiki Master, an intuitive guide, and a celebrity facialist. Julie also specializes in facial mapping because Our skin is a message board for everything that is going on inside of us. Our faces are a map of our whole body, all our organs, and their corresponding emotions. In 2020, Julie launched LINEA, a holistic gua sha beauty kit designed to educate and empower people to connect with their inner and outer bodies. Julie has worked with top brands True Botanicals, KORA Organics, and Jenni Kayne. Her work has been featured in Vogue and Conde Nast just to name two. And she has a brand new book out called Gau Sha and Crystal Massage: Techniques for healthy, clear, and glowing skin. Get all of Julie's links and contact info here and be sure to follow her on Instagram  Get her book: Gau Sha and Crystal Massage: Techniques for healthy, clear, and glowing skin. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS: Gua Sha is an ancient ritual to bring things out of the body and cleanses As a young child, Julie went to an acupuncturist (which was really frowned upon) with her mother and it introduced her to understanding the body. Julie was an actress until she was 26 years old. Everything changed when she got in a terrible car accident and couldn't perform anymore. Meditation was a healing modality after the accident and she healed herself completely after 9 months. Becoming an aesthetician and combining it with the other spiritual modalities gave Julie a sense of freedom and possibility. She knew there were ways to help other people heal themselves. Society tells us aging is one way only. Julie says that's not true. Physical appearance is deeply related to emotions. The face is a beautiful mask that leads to healing you mind, body, and soul. Julie embraced a lot of experimentation and playing to figure out how to create her signature approach to supporting clients. She doesn't hold judgment on what people want to do. She holds space for everyone and supports them. Make sure you feel empowered in the office of your doctors and healers! Be thoughtful and intentional. Make sure it's collaborative. The lips are heart tissue. Literally pulled from our hearts while in utero. Julie is moving into group events, virtual face readings, and courses because she wants to help as many people as possible by being active in their healing. Time traveling is when you go back into thoughts and experiences and rewrite them into what you wish they had been. You can apply this in forward motion also by setting intentions for you day. Time travel but deciding what your true experience will be, surrender and fully embrace! Julie loves failure because it's the breeding ground for learning, growth, and opportunities. The message is, to love yourself. You can't get it wrong! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tune in to hear how The Avengers lead to this week's guest accepting his claim to fame as “The Broadway Trainer.” We even get a few off-the-cuff renditions of Shut the Eff Up Alan! Joe Rosko is the founder of Built For The Stage, Broadway's #1 online fitness training platform, and its accompanying podcast on Broadway Podcast Network (with over 200 episodes to date!). In the past six years, Built For The Stage has trained clients in over 50 Broadway shows and on international stages around the globe. BFTS clients can currently be seen in such Tony-nominated and Tony-winning shows as “Some Like It Hot,” “& Juliet,” “New York, New York,” “Wicked” and “Hamilton." Joe has some terrific fitness and overall wellness tips about preparing for this busy and exciting time leading up to Broadway's Biggest Night. Joe began his professional career as a trainer and actor at the exact same time in 2007. Since then, it has been his mission to build a bridge between the worlds of fitness and theatre. Joe believed that actors were truly professional athletes but didn't feel as though the theatre community was equipped with the proper resources to train like said athletes. This realization led to the creation of Built for the Stage. Joe and his coaches pride themselves on having the unique abilities to continue a performer's fitness progress while being in or out of a show. Connect with Joe on his website, TikTok, YouTube, and Instagram. Make sure to follow this podcast everywhere you find podcasts, leave a rating and a review, and slip into our Instagram DMs at @wasitchance. More about Heather via @vickeryandco on Instagram, @Braveheather on TikTok, and listen to The Brave Files More about Alan via @theatre_podcast on Instagram and listen to The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales EPISODE TAKEAWAYS Broadway performers are the Olympians of theater. It's important to challenge your body in different ways to protect it during such rigorous work as eight shows a week. How the hell did Joe get here? It was the perfect storm of three specific things:  He started playing sports at the age of 4 A middle school girlfriend talked him into trying out for the school play An entrepreneurial spirit. Joe studied theater in college and continued to do both theater and sports. While performing in school shows he was also playing football which is a little nuts, if you ask us. Built for the Stage really started in college when he started training fellow actors at the age of 18. Although his fellow athletes gave him a little shit, they were always supportive and sat in the front row when he did a show. Everything in life is mental. It's all about what you decide to make it. After college training was a “survival” job. He discovered Crossfit in NYC and ended up managing a gym which led to early virtual training. In order to be accessible to Actors, no matter their work status, all of Built for the Stage's programs have always been virtual. During the pandemic, Joe lowered the cost of the Built for the Stage app and donated proceeds to the Actor's Fund. While it may look like it's all rainbows and butterflies it's not. Joe works countless hours, drives and flies thousands of miles, and puts his whole heart and soul into the work. Although Joe does have a bit of a Midas touch, he embraces failure with the mindset of “never be afraid to ask” and this has helped lead to his massive success. Having a really great niche is game-changing! Built for the Stage Podcast on BPN. Joe is a big believer in the power of no. Stay focused and don't say yes to things that don't serve you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices