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Andrew Walworth, Tom Bevan and RCP White House correspondent Phil Wegmann discuss recent reports that House Republicans are complaining to President-Elect Donald Trump about Speaker Johnson's performance. But is there anyone who can replace him? They also talk about a recent interview by Tucker Carlson of Teamster President Sean O'Brien who says Harris told Teamsters “I'm going to win with or without you.” Plus, a look at Donald Trump's Christmas Eve message to 37 death row inmates issued clemency by Joe Biden and a new poll that shows seven out of ten Democrats are consuming less news in the wake of the election and declining ratings for CNN and MSBC. Then finally, Andrew Walworth talks to RealClear Education editor Nathan Harden about President Biden's recent activity around student loans, including a decision to provide additional relief to public sector workers.

We're live at MSBC in San Diego. Erik is joined by Jordan and Hollywood Agent Rob Stark. We discuss Erik's travel issues, venturing around San Diego, Rob runs away to avoid a snake, take aways from the convention, and talk with various radio personalities like:  Trevor Marden [Q104 NYC / The Woody Show] Corey Dylan [KFBG San Diego] Kevin Quinn [KRBE Houston] Marie LeMaitre [The Radio Fam] Kira Kathleen [WCTO Allentown] Anna Hummel [Tampa] VIDEO EPISODE on YOUTUBE  www.youtube.com/@itseriknagel AUDIO EPISODE: IHeartRadio | Apple | Spotify Social Media: @itseriknagel

Catch Ben Davis and Kira playing Euchre at MSBC 36! Ben joins the show this week to talk his radio journey, if he's comfortable going in public?, and Euchre! Listen everywhere you find your podcasts! @bendavisradio @kirakradio @findingmyperfectawkward

News Editor for Townhall.com Katie Pavlich joins Fox Across America With Jimmy Failla to shed light on the Left's devious tactics when it comes to their ongoing efforts to take down former President Trump. Jimmy gives his take on the outrage from MSBC hosts like Jen Psaki and Rachel Maddow over NBC's decision to hire former RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, and tells us how their anger is all manufactured. PLUS, co-host of “The Big Money Show” on Fox Business Brian Brenberg stops by to talk about the ridiculousness of Democrats freaking out over Trump's bond payment in New York being slashed, seeing as he still has to cough up $175 million. [00:00:00] Media melts down over Trump bond reduction [00:39:38] The Ronna McDaniel outrage is all manufactured [00:58:08] Katie Pavlich [01:16:25] RFK Jr. enters the next stage of his campaign [01:34:53] Brian Brenberg Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 3, Episode 17 is the final of ten special edition episodes that we recorded at the 2023 Maryland Sports Business Conference in April. This episode features Dan Crowley, executive vice president at the Best is Ahead Foundation, which is the NIL program for the University of Maryland football team. Dan takes us through his rise in the sports world, first as a football player at Towson and now involved with Maryland's football program.  0:00-0:28   Podcast Intro 0:29-1:09       Dan Crowley Intro 1:10-2:50       Playing days at Towson and winning championships at the CFL 2:51-4:28       Finding a way into sports and starting a professional career 4:29-5:59     What is the Best is Ahead Foundation and why is it important? 6:00-9:38     Ways that the Best is Ahead Foundation gets players involved 9:39-11:20    Understanding the NIL landscape and building your personal brand 11:21-12:58    Dealing with the uncertainty and ambiguity of NIL 12:59-14:32   Advice for students who want to make a difference in sports 14:33-14:54   Sign-off

Season 3, Episode 16 is a special edition episode recorded at the 2023 Maryland Sports Business Conference in April and features Nnamdi Egbuaba. Nnamdi is a former UMD football linebacker (2014-2018) and current District Sales Manager at PepsiCo. In this episode, he shares his athletic roots from growing up in Nigeria, his highlights from his Maryland experience, and how athletics have applied to his professional life. Nnamdi has an amazing story and lots of Maryland pride...Maryland has a lot of pride for him, too! 0:00-0:28 Intro 0:29-2:54 From basketball to football, from Nigeria to the US 2:55-5:06 Why Maryland? 5:07-6:35 Life outside of football at UMD 6:36-8:37 The ups and downs of UMD football 8:38-10:06 What it means to put in work 10:07-11:29 Connecting football to life 11:30-13:52 Leading a team – Nnamdi's work at PepsiCo 13:53-14:37 Sticking with sports after college 14:38-15:35 Maryland Minute 15:36-16:01 Outtro

Season 3, Episode 15 is a special edition episode recorded at the 2023 Maryland Sports Business Conference in April. This episode features Joanne Pasternack, a current executive in the Social Responsibility/Social Justice side of sports. She is and the both President and CEO of Oliver+Rose and Co-Founder of Athletes' Voices. In this episode, Joanne takes us through her career, including what it means to be a female in sports, shares experiences working with the most talented athletes like Colin Kaepernick and Eric Reid to help them succeed outside of sports. 0:00-0:28 Intro 0:29-2:00 Joanne's background in sports 2:01-3:07 Finding her inspiration while working with the Special Olympics 3:08-6:11 Building her career locally and nationally through the Golden State Warriors, San Fransisco 49ers, and Oliver+Rose 6:12-10:35 Working with Colin Kaepernick and Eric Reid - "What it means to use your voice" 10:36-11:46 Golden State Warriors response to being uninvited to the White House 11:47-13:48 The importance of authenticity when speaking 13:49-15:42 Differences between the NFL and NBA 15:43-17:10 Oliver+Rose - working with all athletes 17:11-19:52 Alex Smith and Jeremy Boyd's connection - a favorite story of Joanne's 19:53-23:29 Working in a male-dominated industry - normalizing having self-pride 23:30-24:36 The future of social responsibility in sports 24:37-26:21 Maryland Minute 26:22-26:43 Outtro

Vicky B, Oh Sara, Danny V, and Joey Deez discuss wearing wedding rings in public. MSBC2023 is this week and the crew is flying to Dallas! 

Season 3, Episode 14 of The Locker Room Podcast is a special edition episode recorded at the 2023 Maryland Sports Business Conference in April. This episode features Brandon Gassaway, director of social responsibility, player programs, and diversity and inclusion communications for the NBA. Brandon takes us through his rise into the sports world as well as how he is able to help players make a difference in their communities.  0:00-0:28 Podcast Intro 0:29-1:16 Brandon Intro 1:17-3:20 Transitioning from government to the NBA 3:21-5:18 Encouraging athletes to use their platforms and make a difference 5:19-6:53 Giving athletes the tools to make a difference 6:54-7:44 Advice for students 7:45-8:08 Sign off

Danny V, Executive Producer of the BJ & Migs show (KISW, Seattle) and Morning Show Boot Camp celebrates 10 years since his first MSBC, shares his passion the event, and what to look forward to in 2023. 2022 Episode: https://youtu.be/ItCfyYZMfsI https://www.theradiofam.com/blogs/default-blog/dannyvradiomsbc?_pos=1&_psq=dann&_ss=e&_v=1.0 Connect with Danny: hiimdannyv.com

Season 3, Episode 13 of The Locker Room podcast is a special edition episode that was recorded at the 2023 Maryland Sports Business Conference in April. This episode features Wayne Kimmel, who is a UMD alum and is now the founder and managing partner of SeventySix Capital. Wayne shares with us his deep passion for what he does and speaks on his experience in starting/growing his company from the ground up in the ever-changing field of sports business.  0:00-0:28 Intro 0:29-1:44 Wayne's time at Maryland 1:45-2:37 What is SeventySix Capital? 2:38-6:42 The gamification and development of sports in recent years 6:43-7:45 How Wayne differentiates his brand 7:46-10:12 Business and investment strategies 10:13-15:28 What the future of sports looks like/Wayne's career advice 15:29-20:37 Maryland Minute/Memories of UMD 20:38-21:10 Outtro

Rick Rumble joins the show to talk radio, his most embarrassing/awkward moments in his career, and MSBC!

Hawkeye joins the show to talk his radio journey and how he's going to be joining in on MSBC this year! Let's hear it for the first timers! #MSBC35

Season 3, Episode 12 of The Locker Room Podcast is a special edition episode that was recorded at the 2023 Maryland Sports Business Conference and features Anthony Pecorella. “Pec” (his nickname at the University of Maryland), was a punter on the UMD football team from 2019-2023 and will be punting in the fall at Stony Brook University in New York. Pec is a Long Islander with a big heart and tells some great stories from his childhood sports to the ins and outs of his life at UMD. He also talks about his mental health struggles and how he found himself while also helping others by founding Healthy Minds, which is a mental health service for student-athletes.  0:00-0:28 Intro 0:29-1:50 Pec's background/childhood in sports 1:51-3:19 Becoming a punter 3:20-4:02 Why Maryland? 4:03-4:58 Finding himself as a punter at UMD 4:59-5:54 Day-to-day as a punter 5:55-8:16 Highlights at UMD 8:17-12:07 Mental health scare and the creation of “healthy minds” 12:08-15:00 What does “toughness” truly mean? 15:01-16:40 Pec's mental health advice to others 16:41-17:31 Maryland Minute 17:32-17:56 Outtro

Season 3, Episode 11 of the Locker Room Podcast is a special edition episode recorded at the 2023 Maryland Sports Business Conference with Justin Polkowitz. Justin worked for Topps and helped create digital trading cards backed by the Avalanche Block Chain. Tune in to hear about this revolutionary development in the world of sports collectibles and to better understand how this side of sports is continuing to grow. Introduction 0:00-0:28       Podcast Intro 0:29-0:53       Justin Intro College Experience 0:54-2:08       Finding interest in sports as a kid and turning it into a major 2:09-3:41        Breaking into the sports world and creating a path to a career Working for Topps 3:42-5:18       Explaining digital trading cards backed by blockchain technology 5:19-6:28       Understanding the rise of digital collectibles  6:29-7:08      Advantages of digital collectibles vs traditional cards 7:09-8:34     Growing up as a card collector and then working for Topps Sign off 8:35-9:58       Advice for students who want to break into the sports world 9:59-10:23     Sign-off

Season 3, Episode 10 of the Locker Room Podcast is a special edition episode that was recorded at the 2023 Maryland Sports Business Conference with Shawne Merriman. Shawne formerly football at UMD and had an 8-year NFL career where he was a 3-time pro bowler and was the league's sack leader in 2006. He is now the CEO of Lights Out Xtreme Fighting, an MMA organization, which he started in 2019. Shawne dives into his career on and off the field and shares some of his greatest stories and advice for others. 0:00-0:28 Intro 0:29-1:32 Why Maryland? 1:33-2:21 How Shawne got the nickname “Lights Out” 2:22-3:21 The NFL Draft Process 3:22-5:01 Handling stardom at a young age 5:02-6:31 Starting a second career after the NFL 6:32-7:52 What is the Lights Out brand? 7:53-9:25 Shawne's passion of giving back - the coat drive 9:26-10:23 Shawne's advice to others 10:24-12:43 Maryland Minute 12:44-12:59 Outtro

If you've ever been in radio in North America, either as a producer or as talent, you've probably heard about Morning Show Boot Camp. Heck, you've probably heard us talk about it on the show before. But why should you care?Well, for starters, it's been a killer resource for training radio talent since the 80's. Most broadcasters have either been to a session or know someone who has, because it's developed a reputation for being the best way to keep your on-air skills sharp. And today, we've got one of the original founders of the Boot Camp, Don Anthony, to tell us about how it's evolved and why it's still incredibly important and relevant.Don knows, as should everyone, that people just don't listen to radio for the music anymore. Sure, it's nice to find a station that plays your favourite songs, but it's even nicer to be able to pull them up on Spotify or Apple Music and play them anytime. So the question remains: what's the draw of radio in 2023? Don's answer is simple. Streaming services don't have a personality. Radio stations do. He talks to us about the importance of a good host, and the ways Morning Show Boot Camp helps on-air talent learn to harness their entertainment skills. He also shares some of his favourite experiences from the last 35 years of watching people become famous right in front of his eyes.Want to go to Morning Show Boot Camp? Sign up here! If you want to stay updated on all things radio, check out Don's website, The Morning Mouth.A Transcription of this episode is available here. You can also sign up for their newsletter, Jockline, to get updates on all the latest radio news directly in your inbox. Submit your email, first name and last name here to register.This show is made possible every week by contributors like:Blurve: A great way to help you prep your Show.NLogic: TV & radio advertising and audience data solutionsMegatrax - Licensed Music for your radio station or podcast production company.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome to a new series where we celebrate sisterhood. Our biological sisters, and the ones who show up and carry us through life. We celebrate the timeless and invisible bonds that mysteriously tie us together. Liz Plank and Emile Plank are both writers. Liz Plank is a journalist and an award-winning author. You know her from MSBC, the Man Enough Podcast with Justin Baldoni and Race to 35 with Monica Padman. (BTW – Liz and Monica just announced that they are starting a new podcast where they will answer your questions, so be sure to send them one here: https://hello243414.typeform.com/to/GE5qpufa?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email!) Emilie Plank is a teacher and recently published her first children's book: Les Galettes de grand-maman. I wrote about it on Mitsou Magazine and called it The Kid's Book Making the Adults Cry. I, like many adults, got very emotional reading the book. It's a diamond. It's about a wolf cub who immigrates to Canada and faces discrimination. Ultimately, it's a book about empathy. I wanted to talk to Liz and Emilie about their childhood, how they made each other who they are, and how they inspired each other to become authors. You can purchase Les Galettes de grand-maman here: https://www.quebec-amerique.com/collections/jeunesse/3-ans-et-plus/albums/les-galettes-de-grand-maman-10594. Read The Kid's Book Making the Adults Cry here: https://mitsoumagazine.com/en/culture/the-kids-book-making-adults-cry/ FOLLOW: Liz Plank: https://www.instagram.com/feministabulous/ Emilie Plank: https://www.instagram.com/emilie.plank/ Flipflops Podcast: https://www.instagram.com/flipflops_podcast/

Brandon Rhodes is the Vice President of Business Development at Overtime, a Forbes 30 Under 30 Recipient, Co-Founder of “Hella Awkward” card game, and Co-Founder of the Michigan Sports Business Conference where he graduated from The University of Michigan's business school. Brandon's a strategic business builder and proven brand marketer with a track record of success across consumer products, tech, sports, and media tied to youth culture and worked in Global Brand Activation & Management, and Digital Strategy at PepsiCo's Gatorade before joining the industry-disrupting Overtime. Above all, Brandon's an awesome dude paving the way forward for the next generation of leaders within sports business and beyond — we're honored to bring y'all this conversation with him. Connect with Brandon:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bsrhodes/IG: @overtimebrandon ; https://www.instagram.com/overtimebrandon/?hl=enTwitter: @overtimebrandon ; https://twitter.com/overtimebrandon?lang=enPurchase the Hella Awkward card game:https://hellawkward.com/products/hella-awk-ward OUTLINE:Foreword 0:00 - 05:11Start of conversation 05:11How Brandon knew he wanted to go the sports routeTime working at GatoradeRunning Business Development at OvertimeAdvice for succeeding in the space, getting your foot in the door, and more  Recorded on November 4th, 2022 #overtime #overtimeelite #sportsbiz #gatorade #michigan #msbc Connect with Alec on Social:- Linktree to all platforms: https://linktr.ee/smartalec  Podcast info:- Podcast website: https://smartalecshow.com- RSS feed: feed:https://feeds.simplecast.com/ngBH2BfM- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/634MOIW582k2STgC06Rvl9?si=ulGRaagxSBCHROX0OEQCCA- Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-smart-alec-show/id1577614268 - Amazon Music & Audible: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/96993c84-1664-4a67-921d-9b731fbdca99

@imstevemigs joins the show to talk MSBC adventures and his journey in radio! Listen to this eventful and hilarious convo now! @kirakradio @findingmyperfectawkward (Instagram) / @findingawkward (Twitter)

Season 2 Episode 10 of the Locker Room Podcast features UMD alum Peter Raskin, Founder of Rubicon Talent. In this episode, he talks about his experience founding his agency and what he has learned about sports business. Peter also details his experience working with clients across professional sports and the lessons that he has taken away from these opportunities.

The Mood Stabilizing Boys of Comedy™ take the Bipolar Spectrum Diagnostic Scale. This week we chat about mania, hypomania, depression, and mental health. Does your mood and energy fluctuate wildly at times? Do you cycle between periods of hyperactivity and extreme depression? Do you ever go long periods without sleeping? Listen to the episode and take the questionnaire along with The MSBC™ to see if you can out bipolar Shane and win the worst/best prize (depending on the day): http://www.thecarlatcmeinstitute.com/complete/html/assess/BSDS.pdf You can always listen to the show wherever you podcast or go to Spotify or YouTube for video options. The Mind Under Matter Campout Festival in Raleigh is right around the corner! Get tickets for Friday Sep 9 thru Sunday Sep 11 and join us for music, science talks, art, comedy, wellness and surprises! https://mindunderpod.com/pages/campout

On the final episode of the MSBC 10 podcast, we hear from conference founders Dustin Cairo, David Herman, and Brandon Rhodes. We hear from those who have been involved with MSBC from the very start about the evolution of the organization, growing pains, and some fun behind the scenes stories. We hope you enjoy!

On this week's episode, we go back to MSBC 9, and hear from Julie Uhrman. We get the inside scoop on what it's like to build a professional sports team from the ground up, and work with some of the best of the best across sports, film, TV, music, and more in doing so. Hope you enjoy!

On this week's episode, we go back to MSBC 8, and hear from Johanna Faries. She talks all things gaming from the impact of COVID, to the future of the industry, to why she believes that normalization of the industry is the key to much future success. This is one you don't want to miss!

On this week's episode, we go back to MSBC 7, and hear from Larry Miller. He touched on everything from advice on navigating your career in sports and finding your niche in the field, to explaining the roots of his relationship with His Airness himself. This is one you don't want to miss!

Michael Hudson, American economist and author of Super Imperialism: The Economic Strategy of American Empire (1972) discusses the rentier economy that accounts for the growing disparity in wealth due to finance capitalism. Giving a history of the the polarisation of the US economy since the 1960s through the present, Hudson discusses how the high costs of education and housing have led to a growing problem of student debt, higher costs of living and increasing austerity. Noting how 80% of bank loans are made for real estate in the US, Hudson expounds upon how loans and exponentially growing debts outstrip profits from the economy proving disastrous for both the government and the people who are paying increasing amounts on housing with little to no money left to spend on goods and services. Hudson contends that finance capitalism is a “self-terminating” oligarchical system leaving workers traumatised, afraid to strike or react to working conditions, while they are pushed towards serfdom as US and Europe are heading towards a debt crisis on par with that of Argentina and Greece.TranscriptIntroduction: Welcome to Savage Minds. I'm your host, Julian Vigo. Today's show marks the launch of our second season with a very special guest: Michael Hudson. Michael Hudson is a financial analyst and president of the Institute for the Study of long term economic trends. He is a distinguished research professor of economics at the University of Missouri Kansas City, and the professor at the School of Marx studies, Peking University in China. He's also a research fellow at the Levy Institute of Bard College, and he has served as an economic adviser to the US Canadian, Mexican, and Latvian governments. He's also been a consultant to UNITAR, the Institute for Research on Public Policy and the Canadian Science Council, among other organisations. He holds a BA from the University of Chicago and an MA and PhD in economics from New York University. Professor Hudson is the author of Killing the Host: How Financial Parasites and Debt Bondage Destroy the Global Economy (2015), and most recently, J is for junk economics, a guide to reality in an age of deception. His super imperialism, the economic strategy of the American Empire has just been translated into German after its appearance in Chinese, Japanese and Spanish. He sits on the editorial board of lap times quarterly and has written for the Journal of International Affairs, Commonweal, International Economy, Financial Times, and Harper's, and he's a regular contributor to CounterPunch. I welcome Michael Hudson, to Savage Minds.Julian Vigo: Class analysis in the United States is rather subterfuge amidst all these other narratives of the American dream as it's framed—that being the right to own one's home. In the UK, that became part of the Trojan horse, that Thatcher built to win her election. It was a very smart move. She won that election—she won her elections—by the reforms in the “right to buy” scheme as I'm sure you know. I t was really clever and disastrous for human rights in the country. I've spent quite a bit of my life in the UK and to see that in 1979 was, I believe, 49% of all residential housing was council housing. And when I wrote a piece on this for the Morning Star about eight, nine years ago, that rate was reduced to under 11%. So we're seeing the haves- and have-nots. And this is where your work really struck a chord for me. And let's kick into the show at this point. I have written over the years, about rentier capitalism, a term that is increasingly used to describe economies dominated by rentier, rents and rent-generating assets. And you discuss this quite a bit in your work, more recently, your article from July, “Finance Capitalism versus Industrial Capitalism: The Rentier Resurgence and Takeover.” And in this article, you discuss how today the finance, insurance and real estate sectors have regained control of government creating a “neo-rentier” economy as you put it, while you note—and I quote you: “The aim of this postindustrial finance capitalism is the opposite of industrial capitalism as known to nineteenth-century economists: it seeks wealth primarily through the extraction of economic rent, not industrial capital formation.” Unquote. I was wondering if we might begin our talk by branching out from this piece you wrote in July. And if you could explain for our listeners why discerning rentier capitalism is essential for understanding the global push to privatise and financialise those sectors that formerly existed in the public domain such as—and we see this everywhere, including in the EU—transportation, health care, prisons, policing, education, the post office, etc.Michael Hudson: Well, most textbooks depict a sort of happy world that almost seems to exist in the 1950s. And this “happy world” is when wealthy people get money, they build factories and buy machinery and hire workers to produce more goods and services. But that's not what the credits created for today, it's the textbooks that pick the banks that take in people's deposits and lend them out to people who build industrial production, and you'll have a picture of workers with lunchboxes working in. But actually, banks only lend money against assets. And the main assets do not make a profit by employing people to produce things there. They simply are opportunities to extract rent, like real estate 80% of bank loans are made for real estate. And that means they're made against primarily buildings that are in land that are already there. And the effective more and more bank credit is to raise the price of real estate. And in the United States, in the last year, housing prices have gone up 20%. And typically, in America, if you go to a bank and take out a loan, the government is going to guarantee the bank that you will pay the loan up to the point where it absorbs 43% of your income.So here's a big chunk of American income going to pay simply for housing, those price increases, not because there's more housing, or better housing. But in fact, the housing is built worse and worse every year, by lowering the standards, but simply inflation. There are other forms of rent, other people pay, for instance, 18% of America's GDP is healthcare, much higher than the percentage in any other country for much lower quality of service. So you know, that's sort of taken out of people's budgets. If you're a worker in the United States, right away, you get your paycheque 15%—a little more, maybe 16% now—is deducted for Social Security and medical care for when you're older. They also need up to maybe 30%, for income tax, federal, state and local income tax before you have anything to spend. And then you have to spend for housing, you have to pay for transportation, you have to pay for your own medical insurance contributions, your own pension contributions. So there's very, very little that is left over in people's budgets to buy goods and services. Not only have real wages in the United States, gone down now for three decades, but the disposable income that people and families get after they meet their sort of monthly “nut,” what they can spend on goods and services is shrunk even more. So while they're getting squeezed, all this money is paid to rentiers as at the top. And because of the miracle of compound interest, the amount that the 1% of the economy has grows exponentially. Any rate of interest is a doubling time. And even though people know that there's only a 0.1% rate of interest, now for the banks, and for large wall firms, it's about 3% if you want to buy a mortgage. and so this, the 0.1% is lent out to large companies like Blackstone that are now buying up almost all of the housing that comes onto the market in the United States. So in 2008, 69% of homeowners of Americans own their own homes. Now it's fallen by more than 10%. It's fallen to about 51%. All this difference has been basically the financial sector funding a transformation away from home ownership into landlordship—into absentee ownership. And so the if you're part of the 1%, the way that you make money is by buying stocks or bonds, or corporate takeovers, or buying real estate and not building factories. And that's why the factories and the industry have been shifting outside of the United States over to China, and other countries. So, what we're having is a kind of…I won’t say its post-industrial capitalism, because people thought that the what was going to follow industrial capitalism was going to be socialism. They thought that there will be more and more government spending on providing basic needs that people had. And instead of socialism, and a more, egalitarian distribution of wealth and income, you've had a polarization of wealth and income, you've had the wealthy people making money financially, and by real estate, and by rent seeking, and by creating monopolies, but not by building factories, not by producing goods and services. And that is why the economy's polarizing, and so many people are unhappy with their conditions. Now, they're going further and further into debt and their student debt. Instead of education here being a public utility that's provided freely, it's become privatised at NYU, it's now $50,000 or $60,000 a year. There is no way in which the United States can compete industrially with other countries when they've loaded down new entrants into the labor force with huge housing costs, student debt, huge taxes have been shifted off the 1% onto the 99%. So in the United States, finance capitalism basically is self-terminating. It leads to a polarised economy, it leads to austerity. And it leaves countries looking like Greece looked after 2015, after its debt crisis, it looks like Argentina is trying to struggle to pay its foreign debts. And that seems to be the future in which the US and Europe are moving towards.Julian Vigo: I posted on my Facebook wall about this about maybe five weeks ago, that the rentier class, I'm not just including the likes of Blackstone, but the middle class that are multiple home dwellers. I noted that during the lockdown, I was reading through accounts on social media of people who were being threatened by landlords, landlords, who actually had no mortgage to pay. And I had to wonder at that point, what is the input of the rentier class by the landowning class who are not necessarily part of the 1%. These are people who, as some of these people came on my wall and said, “I worked hard to buy my second and third houses!” And I thought, “Well, let me pull out my violins.” One thing that really alerted me during lockdown was the lack of sympathy for renters. And I don't just mean in the US, in fact, I think the US had a kinder response to renting in some sectors such as New York state where there has been—and still—is a massive pushback against any form of relaxation of rent forgiveness, since lockdown in the EU and Italy and France. It's appalling the kind of treatment that renters received here. I spoke to people in Bologna, who were doing a rent strike, but fearful of having their name mentioned. I ended up not being able to run the piece because of that. And there are so many people who don't have money to pay their rent in the EU, in the UK, and yet, we're somehow focusing oftentimes on these meta-critical analyses of the bigger corporations, the 1%. But where does the middle class fit into this, Michael, because I do have to wonder if maybe we should be heading towards the model I hold in my mind and heart is St. Ives in Cornwall, which about eight years ago set a moratorium saying no second homes in this city. Now, they didn't do it because of any allegiance to Marxism or socialism. They did it in part because of that, and because of a left-leaning politics, but mostly because they didn't want to have a ghost town that when the summer was over, you had very few people living in town. What are the answers to the rentier class that is also composed of people who consider themselves hard-working people who just want someone else to pay for their house, as one person on Twitter, put it.Michael Hudson: This is exactly the problem that is plaguing left wing politics, from Europe to America in the last fifty years.Julian Vigo: Exactly. It's astounding because there was a lot of debate on Twitter around last summer, when one woman wrote, I just did the math, I'm almost 29 years old, and I paid and she listed the amount in rent, I have just bought my landlord a second house. And people are adding it up that we are back to understanding. And I think in terms of the medieval period, remember in high school in the US when you study history, and you learn about feudalism, and the serfs coming in from far afield having to tend to the Masters terrain. And I think, are we heading back to a kind of feudalism under a new name? Because what's dividing those who can afford rents and those who can, it's not only your eligibility to receive a bank loan in this climate, which is quite toxic in London. I know many architects, lawyers, physicians who cannot get bank loans. Ironically, the bar is being raised so high that more and more people in London are moving on to the canal system—they're renting or buying narrowboats. The same is happening in other parts of the world where people are being barred out of home ownership for one reason or another and at the same time, there's a class of people often who got loans in a period when it was quite easy in the 80s and early 90s, let's say and they hold a certain control over who's paying—43% of income of Americans goes on housing. And as you know, in New York City that can be even higher. How can we arrive at a society where there's more equality between these haves and have-nots? Because it seems that the middle class is playing a role in this. They're trying to come off as being the hard-working schmoes, who have just earned their right to own their second or third homes, and then the others who will never have a foot on that ladder, especially given the crash?Michael Hudson: Well, I think you've put your finger on it. Most people think of economies being all about industry. But as you've just pointed out, for most people, the economy is real estate. And if you want to understand how modern economies work, you really should begin by looking at real estate, which is symbiotic with with banking, because as you pointed out that in a house is worth whatever a bank will lend. And in order to buy a house, unless you have an enormous amount of savings, which hardly anyone has, you'll borrow from a bank and buy the house. And the idea is to use the rent to pay the interest to the bank. And then you end up hoping late hoping with a capital gain, which is really land price gain. You borrow from the bank hoping that the Federal Reserve and the central bank or the Bank of England is going to inflate the economy and inflate asset prices and bank credit is going to push prices further and further up. As the rich get richer, they recycle the money in the banks and banks lend it to real estate. So, the more the economy is polarised between the 1% and the 99%, the more expensive houses get the more absentee landlords are able to buy the houses and outbid the homebuyers, who as you pointed out, can't get loans because they're already loaned up. If they can't get loans in England to buy a house, it's because they already owe so much money for other things. In America, it would be because they own student debt or because they own other bank loans, and they're all loaned up. So the key is people are being squeezed more than anywhere else on housing. In America, it rents care too and on related sort of monopoly goods that yield rent. Now the problem is why isn't this at the centre of politics?Is it because— and it's ironic that although most people in every country, Europe and America are still homeowners, or so they only own their own home—they would like to be rocky as a miniature? They would like to live like the billionaires live off the rents. They would like to be able to have enough money without working to get a free lunch and the economy of getting a free lunch. And so somehow, they don't vote for what's good for the wage earners. They vote for well, if I were to get richer, then I would want to own a house and I would want to get rent. So I'm going to vote in favour of the landlord class. I'm going to vote in favour of banks lending money to increase housing prices. Because I'd like to borrow money from a bank to get on this treadmill, that's going to be an automatic free lunch. Now, I not only get rent, but I'll get the rising price of the houses that prices continue to rise. So somehow, the idea of class interest, they don't think of themselves as wave generators, they think of themselves as somehow wouldn't be rentiers in miniature without reaising that you can't do it in miniature. You really have to have an enormous amount of money to be successful rentier.So no class consciousness means that the large real estate owners, the big corporations like Blackstone, that own huge amounts can sort of trot out a strapped, homeowner and individual, and they will sort of hide behind it and say, “Look at this, poor family, they use their money to buy a house, the sort of rise in the world, and now the tenants have COVID, and they can't pay the rent. Let's not bail out these, these landlords.” So even though they're not getting rent, we have to aid them. And think of them as little people, but they're not little people. They're a trillion dollar, money managers. They're huge companies that are taking over. And people somehow personify the billionaires and the trillion dollar real estate management companies as being small people just like themselves. There's a confusion about the economic identity.Julian Vigo: Well, certainly in the United States, we are known to have what's called the “American dream.” And it's, it's quite interesting when you start to analyse what that dream has morphed into, from the 1960s to the present, and I even think through popular culture. Remember Alexis, in Dynasty, this was the go-to model for success. So we've got this idea that the super rich are Dallas and Dynasty in the 80s. But 20 years after that, we were facing economic downfalls. We had American graduates having to go to graduate school because they couldn't get a job as anything but a barista. And the model of getting scholarships or fellowships, any kind of bursary to do the Masters and PhD. When I was doing my graduate work, I was lucky enough to have this, but that was quickly disappearing. A lot of my colleagues didn't have it. And I imagine when you went to school, most of your colleagues had it. And today, and in recent years, when I was teaching in academia, most of my students doing advanced degrees had zero funding. So, we've got on the one hand, the student debt, hamster wheel rolling, we have what is, to me one of the biggest human rights issues of the domestic sphere in countries like the US or Great Britain, frankly, everywhere is the ability to live without having to be exploited for the payment of rent. And then we have this class of people, whether they're Blackstone, and huge corporations, making billions, or the middle class saying, “But I'm just living out the American dream.” How do we square the “American dream,” and an era where class consciousness is more invisible than ever has it been?Michael Hudson: I think the only way you can explain that is to show how different life was back in the 1960s, 1950s. When I went to school, and the college, NYU cost $500 a semester, instead of 50,000, that the price of college has gone up 100 times since I went to college—100 times. I rented a house in a block from NYU at $35 a month on Sullivan Street. And now that same small apartment would go for 100 times that much, $3,500 a month, which is a little below the average rent in Manhattan these days. So, you've had these enormous increases in the cost of getting an education, they cost of rent, and in a society where housing was a public utility, and education was a public utility, education would be provided freely. If the economy wanted to keep down housing prices, as they do in China for instance, then you would be able to work if the kind of wages that Americans are paid today and be able to save. The ideal of China or countries that want to compete industrially is to lower the cost of living so that you don't have to pay a very high wages to cover the inflated cost of housing, the cost of education.If you privatise education in America, and if you increase the housing prices, then either you're going to have to pay labor, much higher rates that will price it out of world markets, at least for industrial goods, or you'll have to squeeze budgets. So yes, people can pay for housing, and education, but they're not going to buy the goods and services they produce. And so and that's one of the reasons why America is not producing industrial manufacturers. It's importing it all abroad. So the result of this finance capitalism that we have the result of the rent squeeze, that you depict, and the result of voters not realising that this is economic suicide for them is that the economy is shrinking and leaving people basically out in the street. And of course, all of this is exacerbated by the COVID crisis right now. Where, right now you have, especially in New York City, many people are laid off, as in Europe, they're not getting an income. Well, if your job has been closed down as a result of COVID, in Germany, for instance, you're still given something like 80% of your normal salary, because they realise that they have to keep you solvent and living. In the United States, there's been a moratorium on rents, they realise that, well, if you've lost your job, you can't pay the rent. There's a moratorium on evictions, there's a moratorium on bank foreclosures on landlords that can't pay their mortgage to the bank, because their tenants are not paying rent. All of that is going to expire in February, that’s just in a few months.  So they're saying, “OK, in New York City, 50,000 tenants are going to be thrown out onto the street, thousands of homes are going to be foreclosed on.” All over the country, millions of Americans are going to be subject now to be evicted. You can see all of the Wall Street companies are raising private capital funds to say, “We're going to be waiting for all this housing to come onto the market. We're going to be waiting for all of these renovations to take place. We're going to swoop in and pick it up.” This is going to be the big grab bag that is going to shape the whole coming generation and do to America really what Margaret Thatcher did to England when she got rid of—when she shifted from housing, the council housing that you mentioned, was about half the population now dow to about 1/10 of the population today.Julian Vigo: This is what I wonder is not being circulated within the media more frequently. We know that major media is not...[laughts] They like to call themselves left-of-centre but they're neoliberal which I don't look at anything in the liberal, the neoliberal sphere, as “left.” I look at it as a sort of strain of conservatism, frankly. But when you were speaking about paying $35 a month for an apartment on Sullivan Street, get me a time machine! What year was that? Michael?Michael Hudson: That was 1962.Julian Vigo: 1962 And roughly, the minimum wage in New York was just over $1 an hour if I'm not mistaken.Michael Hudson: I don't remember. I was making I think my first job on Wall Street was 50 to $100. A year $100 a week.Julian Vigo: So yes, I looked it up because I was curious when you said 100 times certainly we see that. If the tuition at New York when and New York University when I left was $50,000 a year you were paying $500 a semester. This is incredible inflation.Michael Hudson: And I took out a student loan from the state because I wanted to buy economic books. I was studying the history of economic thought and so I borrowed, you know, I was able to take out a loan that I repaid in three years as I sort of moved up the ladder and got better paying jobs. But that was the Golden Age, the 1960s because in that generation there was the baby boom that just came online. There were jobs for everybody. There was a labor shortage. And everybody was trying to hire—anyone could get a job. I got to New York and I had $15 in my pocket in 1960. I'd shared a ride with someone, [I] didn't know what to do. We stayed in a sort of fleabag hotel on Bleecker Street that was torn down by the time you got there. But I,  took a walk around and who should I run into that Gerde's Folk City, but a friend of mine had stayed at my house in Chicago once and he let me stay at his apartment for a few weeks till I can look around, find a place to live and got the place for $35 a month,Julian Vigo: When there was that debate on Twitter—there were many debates actually about renting on Twitter—and there were a few landlords who took to Twitter angry that they learned that their renters had received subsidies in various countries to pay their rent. And instead of paying their rent, the people use this to up and buy a downpayment on a home. And they got very upset. And there was a bit of shadow on Friday there with people saying, “Well, it's exactly what you've done.” And I find this quite fascinating, because I've always said that the age of COVID has made a huge Xray of our society economically speaking. And it's also telling to me that in countries that I would assume to be more socialist leaning, if not socialist absolutely, in the EU, we saw very few movements against rent. Very few people or groups were calling for a moratorium on rent. It's ironic, but it was in the US where we saw more moratoria happen. What is happening where—and this reaches to larger issues, even outside of your specialty of economics and finance—but why on earth has it come to be that the left is looking a lot more like the right? And, don't shoot me, but you know, I've been watching some of Tucker Carlson over the past few years, someone who I could not stand after 9/11. And he has had more concern and more investigations of the poor and the working class than MSBC or Rachel Maddow in the biggest of hissy fits. What is going on politically that the valences of economic concern are shifting—and radically so?Michael Hudson: Well, the political situation in America is very different from every other country. In the Democratic Party, in order to run for a position, you have to spend most of your time raising money, and the party will support whatever candidates can raise the most money. And whoever raises the largest amount of money gets to be head of a congressional committee dealing with whatever it is their campaign donors give. So basically, the nomination of candidates in the United States, certainly in the Democratic Party, is based on how much money you can raise to finance your election campaign, because you're supposed to turn half of what you raised over to the party apparatus. Well, if you have to run for an office, and someone explained to me in in the sixties, if I wanted to go into politics, I had to find someone to back up my campaign. And they said, “Well, you have to go to the oil industry or the tobacco industry.”And you go to these people and say, “Will you back my campaign?” And they say, Well, sure, what's your position going to be on on smoking on oil and the the tax position on oil, go to the real estate interest, because all local politics and basically real estate promotion projects run by the local landlords and you go to the real estate people and you say, “Okay, I'm going to make sure that we have public improvements that will make your land more valuable, but you won't have to pay taxes on them.” So, if you have people running for office, proportional to the money they can make by the special interests, that means that all the politicians here are representing the special interests that pay them and their job as politicians is to deliver a constituency to their campaign contributors. And so the campaign contributors are going to say, “Well, here's somebody who could make it appear as if they're supporting their particular constituency.” And so ever since the 60s, certainly in America, the parties divided Americans into Irish Americans, Italian Americans, black Americans, Hispanic Americans. They will have all sorts of identity politics that they will run politicians on. But there's one identity that they don't have—and that's the identity of being a wage earner. That's the common identity that all these hyphenated Americans have in common. They all have to work for a living and get wages, they're all subject to, they have to get housing, they have to get more and more bank credit, if they want to buy housing so that all of the added income they get is paid to the banks as mortgage interest to get a home that used to be much less expensive for them. So basically, all of the increase in national income ends up being paid to the campaign contributors, the real estate contributors, the oil industry, the tobacco industry, the pharmaceuticals industry, that back the politicians. And essentially, you have politics for sale in the United States. So we're really not in a democracy anymore—we're in an oligarchy. And people don't realise that without changing this, this consciousness, you're not going to have anything like the left-wing party.And so you have most Americans out wanting to be friendly with other Americans, you know, why can't everybody just compromise and be in the centre? Well, there's no such thing as a centrist. Because you'll have an economy that's polarising, you have the 1% getting richer and richer and richer by getting the 99% further and further in debt. So the 99% are getting poorer and poor after paying their debts. And to be in the centre to say, and to be say, only changes should be marginal, that means—a centrist is someone who lets this continue. With that we're not going to make a structural change, that's radical, we're not going to change the dynamic that is polarising the economy, between creditors at the top and debtors is at the bottom, between landlords at the top and renters at the bottom between monopolists and the top and the consumers who have to pay monopoly prices for pharmaceuticals, for cable TV, for almost everything they get. And none of this is taught in the economics courses. Because you take an  economics course, they say, “There's no such thing as unearned income. Everybody earns whatever they can get.” And the American consciousness is shaped by this failure to distinguish between earned income and unearned income and a failure to see that dynamic is impoverishing them. It's like the proverbial frog that's been boiled slowly in water. So, with this false consciousness people have—if only they can save enough and borrow from a bank—they can become a rentier in Miniature. They're just tricked into a false dream.Intermission: You're listening to savage minds, and we hope you're enjoying the show. Please consider subscribing. We don't accept any money from corporate or commercial sponsors. And we depend upon listeners and readers just like you. Now back to our show.Julian Vigo: I don't know if you saw the movie called Queen of Versailles. It was about this very bizarre effort to construct a very ugly Las Vegas-style type of Versailles by a couple that was economically failing. And it spoke to me a lot about the failings of the quote unquote, “American dream.” And I don't mean that dream, per se. I mean, the aspiration to have the dream, because that is, as you just pointed out, unearned income, that is the elephant in the room. And it almost seems to be the elephant maybe to keep using that metaphor, that the blind Sufi tale: everyone's feeling a different part of it, but no one is naming it. And I find this really shocking, that we can't speak of unearned income and look at the differences as to which country's tax inheritance and which do not—this idea that one is entitled to wealth. Meanwhile, a lot of US institutions are academically, now formally, being captured by the identity lobbies and there are many lobbies out there—it's a gift to them. They don't have to work on the minimum wage, they don't have to work on public housing, they don't have to work on housing.They can just worry about, “Do we have enough pronoun badges printed out?” And I find this really daunting as someone who is firmly of the left and who has seen some kind of recognition have this problem bizarrely, from the right. We seem to have a blind spot where we're more caught up in how people see us, rather than the material reality upon which unearned and earned income is based. Why is it that today people are living far worse than their grandparents and parents especially?Michael Hudson: Well, I think we've been talking about that, because they have to pay expenses as their parents and grandparents didn't have to pay, they have to pay much higher rent. Everybody used to be able to afford to buy a house, that was the definition of “middle class” in America was to be a homeowner. And when I was growing up in the 50s and 60s, everybody on the salary they were getting could afford to buy their house. And that's why so many people bought the houses with working class sell rates. As I told you, I was getting $100 a week. At least if you were quiet you could do it. If you were black, you couldn't do it. The blacks were redlined. But the white people could buy the houses. And that's why today, the white population has so much more wealth than the black population, because the white families would leave the house to the children and housing prices have gone up 100 times. And because they've gone up 100 times, this is endowed with a whole white hereditary class of kids whose family own their own homes, send them to schools. But America was redlined. Now Chicago was redlined, blacks were redlined. In New York City, the banks would not lend money to black neighbourhoods or to black borrowers. I was at Chase Manhattan and they made it very clear: they will not make a loan to a mortgage if they're black people living in my block. And they told me that when I was on Second Street and Avenue B. I won't repeat the epithet racist epithets they used. But what has caused the racial disparity today is what we've been talking about: the fact that whites could buy their own homes, blacks could not.And the reason I'm bringing this up is that if—we're working toward a society where white people are now going to be reduced to the position that black people are in today: of not having their own homes, of not being able to get bank credit. One friend of mine at the Hudson Institute, a black economist, wanted to—we were thinking of cowriting a book, The Blackening of America. The state of, well, the future of the whites, is to become blacks if you don't solve this situation. And I've been unable to convince many black leaders about reparations—that the reparations, very hard to get reparations for slavery, which was to their grandparents, their reparations are due to the blacks today who do not have housing, their own homes, because of the redlining that they have been experiencing right down to today.So, you have this, you do have a separation in this country. But this is not the kind of hyphenated politics that the politicians talk about. Not even the black politicians, the fact that if you're going to hyphenated American, how did this hyphenisation affect the real opportunities for real estate, for homeownership, for education, and all of these other things. I think maybe if people begin to think as to how there is a convergence of what was diverging before—now you're having the middle class pushed down into its real identity which was a dependent wage-earning class all along—you're going to have a change of consciousness. But we're still not to that. People don't realise this difference.And at the top of the pyramid, at New York University, for instance, where we both went to school, I have professor friends there and there was recently an argument about getting more salaries for professors, because they're hiring adjunct professors at very low prices instead of appointing them full time. And one professor turned to my friend and said, “They’re treating us like wage earners.” And my friend said, “Yes, you are a wage earner. You’re dependent on the wage you get from New York University.” And he said, “But I’m a professor,” as if somehow being a professor doesn't mean that you're not a wage earner, you're not dependent on salary, you're not being exploited by your employer who's in it to make money at your expense.Julian Vigo: Oh, absolutely. We've got the push from NYU in the 1990s by adjunct professors to get health insurance, and to have a certain modicum of earnings that would allow them to pay rent in an extremely expensive city. I find it amazing how many of my students at the time had no idea how much I was being exploited at the time, I was at lunch after the graduation of two of my students, they invited me to lunch, and they were having a discussion about how well we must be paid. And I laughed. I didn't go into the details of my salary. But later in later years, they came to understand from other sources, how exploitation functions within the university where they were paying almost quarter of a million to go to school, and graduate school, and so forth. So it's quite shocking that even though we have the internet and all the information is there, anyone can see precisely how much NYU or Columbia cost today, or how much the cost of living is, as opposed to 1961, for instance, that people are still not putting together that when you have housing, that is like income. For most of us, if housing is affordable, the way one lives, the efficiency to live, the ease, the mental health, and physical health improves. And it's fascinating to me that during lockdown, people were told, just to bite the bullet, stay inside, and how many publications, how much of the media went out to discover the many people being locked down in extremely small hovels? Multiple families living in three bedroom houses, even smaller. And I just kept thinking throughout these past 20 months or so that the media has become complicit in everything you've discussed, we've seen an extra tack added on where the media is another arm of industry and the 1% they are able sell lockdown stories: stars singing, Spaniards singing, accordionists from Neapolitan balconies, everyone's happy. But that was a lie. And that was a lie being sold conveniently.I regularly post stories from CNN, where their recent yacht story—they love yachts—their recent yacht story from about five or six days ago was how the super-rich are “saving” the world's ecology. And it was a paid advertisement of a very expensive yacht that uses nuclear power, what you and I hope: that all the rich people are running around with little mini nuclear reactors on the seas. And I keep thinking: what has happened that you mentioned campaign financing? Remember what happened to Hillary Clinton when she suggested campaign finance reform? That went over like a lead balloon. And then we've got CNN, Forbes, all these major publications that run paid sponsored news articles as news. It's all paid for, they legally have to see it as but you have to find the fine print. And we're being sold the 1% as the class that's going to save the planet with this very bizarre looking yacht with a big ball on it. And another another CNN article about yacht owners was about how it's hard for them to pay for maintenance or something and  we're pulling out our tiny violins.And I keep wondering, why is the media pushing on this? We can see where MSNBC and CNN and USA today are heading in a lot of their coverage over class issues. They would much rather cover Felicity Huffman, and all those other stars’ children's cheating to get into a California University scandal which is itself its own scandal, of course. That gets so covered, but you rarely see class issues in any of these publications unless it refers to the favelas of Brazil or the shanty towns of Delhi. So, we're sold: poverty isn't here, it's over there. And over here, mask mandates, lock up, shut your doors stay inside do your part clap for the cares and class has been cleared. Cut out. Even in the UK, where class consciousness has a much more deeply ingrained fermentation, let's say within the culture, it's gone. Now the BBC. Similarly, nightly videos at the initial part of lockdown with people clapping for the cares. Little was said about the salaries that some of these carriers were getting, I don't mean just junior doctors there, but the people who are cleaning the hallways. So, our attention has been pushed by the media away from class, not just the politicians doing the dirty work, or not just the nasty finance campaign funding that is well known in the US. What are some of the responses to this, Michael, that we might advance some solutions here? Because my worry, as a person living on this planet is enough is enough: Why can't we just try a new system? Is it that the fall of the Berlin Wall left a permanent divide in terms of what we can experiment with? Or is there something else at play?Michael Hudson: Well, recently, Ukraine passed a law about oligarchs, and they define an oligarchy as not only owning a big company, but also owning one of the big media outlets. And the oligarchy in every country owns the media. So, of course, CNN, and The New York Times and The Washington Post, are owned by the billionaire class representing the real estate interests and the rentier interests. They're essentially the indoctrination agencies. And so of course, in the media, what you get is a combination of a fantasy world and Schadenfreude—Schadenfreude, when something goes wrong with people you don't like, like the scandal. But apart from that, it's promoting a fantasy, about a kind of parallel universe about how a nice world would work, if everybody earned the money that they had, and the wealth they had by being productive and helping society. All of a sudden, that's reversed and [they] say, “Well, they made a lot of fortune, they must have made it by being productive and helping society.” So, everybody deserves the celebrity, deserves the wealth they have. And if you don't have wealth, you're undeserving and you haven't made a productivity contribution. And all you need is to be more educated, managerial and intelligent, and you can do it. And it doesn't have anything to do with intelligence. As soon as you inherit a lot of money, your intelligence, your IQ drops 10%. As soon as you don't have to work for a living and just clip coupons, you write us down another 30%. The stupidest people I've met in my life are millionaires who don't want to think about how they get their money. They just, they're just greedy. And I was told 50 years ago, “You don't need to go to business school to learn how to do business. All you need is greed.” So what are all these business schools for? All they're doing is saying greed is good and giving you a patter talk to say, “Well, yeah, sure, I'm greedy. But that's why I'm productive.” And somehow they conflate all of these ideas.So, you have the media, and the educational system, all sort of combined into a fantasy, a fantasy world that is to displace your own consciousness about what's happening right around you. The idea of the media is that you don't look at your own position, you imagine other people's position in another world and see that you're somehow left out. So, you can say that the working class in America are very much like the teenage girls using Facebook, who use it and they have a bad self image once they use Facebook and think everybody else is doing better. That's the story in Congress this week. Well, you can say that the whole wage earning class once they actually see how awful the situation is they think, “Well, gee, other people are getting rich. Other people have yard spots, why don't I have my own house? Why am I struggling?” And they think that they're only struggling alone, and that everybody else is somehow surviving when other people are struggling just the way they are. That's what we call losing class consciousness.Julian Vigo: Yes, well, we're back to Crystal and Alexis wrestling and Dynasty’s fountain. Everyone wants to be like them. Everyone wants a car. You know, I'll never forget when I lived in Mexico City. One of the first things I learned when you jumped into one of those taxis were Volkswagen beetles,  Mexicans would call their driver “Jaime.” And I said to them, why are you guys calling the taxi drivers here “Jaime”? And they said, “We get it from you.” And I said, “What do you mean you get it from us? We don't call our taxi drivers Jaime.”And then I thought and I paused, I said,  “James!” Remember the Grey Poupon commercials? That's what we do—we have James as the driver in a lot of these films that we produced in the 1970s and 80s. And the idea became co-opted within Mexico as if everyone has a British driver named James.Now, what we have turned into from this serialised, filmic version of ourselves to the present is dystopic. Again, you talked about the percentage of rent that people are paying in the US, the way in which people are living quite worse than their parents. And this is related to student debt, bank debt, credit card debt, we've had scandals directly related to the housing market. We saw that when there were people to be bailed out, they had to be of the wealthy class and companies to be bailed out. There was no bailout for the poor, of course. I was in London during the Occupy Wall Street. In London, it was “occupy the London Stock Exchange” (Occupy LSX) right outside of not even the London Stock Exchange. It was outside of St. Paul's Cathedral. And there was a tent city, and people were fighting ideological warfare from within their tents. There wasn't much organising on the ground. It was disassembled months later. But I wonder why Americans, even with what is called Obamacare, are still not pushing for further measures, why Hillary Clinton's push for or suggestion merely of finance reform within the campaigning system, all of this has sort of been pushed aside.Are there actors who are able to advance these issues within our current political system in the United States? Or will it take people getting on the streets protesting, to get housing lowered to maybe have national rent controls, not just of the form that we have in New York, which, before I got to New York in the late 80s, everyone was telling me how great rent control was. Now it's all but disappeared? What is the answer? Is it the expropriation of houses? Is it the Cornwall style, no owning more than one house type of moratorium on homeownership? What are the solutions to this, Michael?Michael Hudson: There is no practical solution that I can suggest. Because the, you're not going to have universal medical care, as long as you have the pharmaceuticals. funding the campaign's of the leading politicians, as long as you have a political system that is funded by campaign contributors, you're going to have the wealthiest classes, and decide who gets nominated and who gets promoted. So, I don't see any line of reform, given the dysfunctional political system that the United States is in. If this were Europe, we could have a third party. And if we had an actual third party, the democratic party would sort of be like the social democratic parties in Europe, it would fall about 8% of the electorate, and a third party would completely take over. But in America, it's a two-party system, which is really one party with different constituencies for each wing of that party, and that one party, the same campaign contributors funds, both the Republicans and the Democrats. So it's possible that you can think of America as a failed state, as a failed economy. I don't see any means of practical going forward, just as you're seeing in the Congress today, when they're unwilling to pass an infrastructure act, there's a paralysis of change. I don't see any way in which a structural change can take place. And if you're having the dynamics that are polarising, only a structural change can reverse this trend. And nobody that I know, no politician that I know, sees any way of the trends being reversed.Julian Vigo: The funny thing is that scandal, quote-unquote, scandal over Ocasio Cortez's dress at the Met Gala was quite performative to me. It's typical that the media does. “Tax the rich,” as she sits at a function that I believe cost $35,000 to enter. And she socialised the entire night even if she allegedly did not pay either for her dress nor for the entrance. And I'm thinking, isn't this part of the problem: that we have so much of our socio-cultural discourse wrapped up in politics in the same way that Clinton's suggestion that campaign finance reform disappeared quite quickly? Is there any hope of getting campaign finance reform passed in the States?Michael Hudson: No. Because if you had campaign finance reform, that's how the wealthy people control politics. If you didn't, if you didn't have the wealthy, wealthy people deciding who gets nominated, you would have people get nominated by who wanted to do what the public ones, Bernie Sanders says, “Look, most of them are all the polls show that what democracy, if this were a democracy, we would have socialised medicine, we'd have public health care, we would have free education, we would have progressive taxation.” And yet no party is representing what the bulk of people have. So by definition, we're not a democracy. We're an oligarchy, and the oligarchy controls. I mean, you could say that the media play the role today that the church and religion played in the past to divert attention away from worldly issues towards other worldly issues. That's part of the problem.But not only the pharmaceutical industries are against public health care, but the whole corporate sector, the employer sector, are against socialised medicine, because right now workers are dependent for their health insurance on their employers. That means Alan Greenspan, the Federal Reserve Chairman said, this is causing a traumatised workers syndrome, the workers are afraid to quit, they're afraid to go on strike. They're afraid of getting fired because if they get fired, first of all, if they're a homeowner they lose their home because they can't pay their mortgage, but most importantly, they lose their health care. And if they get sick, it wipes them out. And they go broke and they lose their home and all the assets.Making workers depend on the employer, instead of on the government means you're locked into their job. They have to work for a living for an employer, just in order to survive in terms of health care alone. So the idea of the system is to degrade a dependent, wage-earning class and keeping privatising health care, privatising education, and moving towards absentee landlordship is the way to traumatise and keep a population on the road to serfdom. Get full access to Savage Minds at savageminds.substack.com/subscribe

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On this week's episode, we go back to MSBC 5 with Michigan's very own Marcus Collins. He discusses the importance of cultural relevance on social, the secret sauce to great content, and explains how everyone can be a creator. We hope you enjoy!

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INTRODUCTION:The Master Student is the creator of Crumb TV, a conscious community media company. He is a content creator and social media influencer, with about 100-thousand followers across several social media platforms. The Master Student is proficient in and dedicated to the art of learning, understanding, & sharing knowledge and specializes in PowerPoints of diverse subjects. He had humble beginnings on Facebook in 2009 and since then he has risen through the ranks of [conscious] social media as a passionate online personality with compelling content. He teaches history, science & religion with an unapologetic spirit & fervor for the unadulterated truth.  INCLUDED IN THIS EPISODE (But not limited to):·       The Shocking History Of Lesbians (Who We Need And LOVE)·       Benefits Of Drinking Your Own Urine·       Non-Traditional Healing ·       The TWO HOLES Found Within A Vagina·       The Three Little Pigs Compared With The Bible·       The Importance Of Research·       Occultism Defined·       How Christianity Today Is Very Cult-Like·       How Confusing Christianity Has Become·       The Curse Of Gospel Music·       Definition Of Etymology·       Homosexuality In Ancient Greece  CONNECT WITH CRUMB:Website & PowerPoints: https://www.crumbtv.info/YouTube: https://bit.ly/3nXAwpCFaceBook: https://www.facebook.com/CrumbTVTwitter: https://twitter.com/CrumbTV1TIK TOK: https://www.tiktok.com/tag/crumbtv THE SHOCKING HISTORY OF LESBIANS:·       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JnfSQa8zBo DE'VANNON'S RECOMMENDATIONS:·       Pray Away Documentary (NETFLIX)       - https://www.netflix.com/title/81040370       - TRAILER: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk_CqGVfxEs SDJ MEMBERSHIP OPTIONS (FULL EPISODES):·       $2.99 per month.·       Donate any amount for 30 days of full access.·       $25 per year.https://www.sexdrugsandjesus.com/membership-account/membership-levels/ TRANSCRIPT:[00:00:00] You're listening to the sex drugs and Jesus podcast, where we discuss whatever the fuck we want to. And yes, we can put sex and drugs and Jesus all in the same bed and still be all right. At the end of the day, my name is De'Vannon and I'll be interviewing guests from every corner of this world. As we dig into topics that are too risky for the morning show, as we strive to help you understand what's really going on in your.[00:00:24] There was nothing on the table and we've got a lot to talk about. So let's dive right into this episode.[00:00:34] De'Vannon: The master student is the creator of Crumb TV, which is his conscious community media company. He is a content creator and social media influencer with about a hundred thousand followers across several social media platforms. The master's student is proficient in and dedicated to the auto learning, understanding and sharing that.[00:00:56] And he specializes in PowerPoints of diverse subjects. He [00:01:00] had humble beginnings back in 2009. And since then he has arisen through the ranks of conscious social media as a passionate online personality with compelling content. He teaches history, science, and religion with an unapologetic spirit and fervor for the unadulterated truth.[00:01:14] Y'all. And today we're going to be talking about lesbians and urine, and I promise you, you will not be disappointed.[00:01:24] Crumb, crumb, crumb. Welcome to this show of so glad to have you. Um, and you, you've got to be one of the most charismatic, interesting people I've ever had. The pleasure of finding out there in the wide world of media. Your smile is contagious, your energy is contagious.[00:01:46] And what I love the most about you is that you have very sharp opinions and perspectives on things. And, um, and that is what we are going to be diving into [00:02:00] today on this show. Yes, we will be talking about the history of lesbians, but before we get into that, we're going to dig into some fun facts and things about you as well.[00:02:10] I understand more of where you're coming from. So, uh, I watched her video history of lesbians. It was a phenomenal on myself being LGBT, a member of the alphabet mafia. It's a lot of what I call us, alphabet mafia. Uh, you know, I love it. You know, any kind of delicious titillate I can get my hand on it. I can read or watch a good video about our history, about us from open-minded people.[00:02:40] Now, I want you to say hello though, as you address the people and all of the different languages that you did on your video, because I thought that was cool. [00:02:52] Crumb: Absolutely. Number one, I will do, as you say, but before I do that, may I. Give you the, uh, [00:03:00] honors you deserve. I want to thank you for allowing me on a platform.[00:03:03] I am so humbled. I'm honored. I'm appreciative. Uh, it is exciting. I'm excited to be here. Uh, so I just want to give, you know, give you your flowers first and foremost with that said yes. If you could repeat after me. [00:03:16] De'Vannon: I don't mind if I did peace. Peace. I shame. I say [00:03:22] Crumb: Islam is long now. Mistake, [00:03:26] De'Vannon: Nama day who been to Ubuntu.[00:03:30] Oh, PSEO of fail. Halito Helito boom, boom. What Guan gone, [00:03:42] Crumb: whatever the respect of greeting in your language. I am your humble brother Crump here on second. Drugs and Jesus. Oh my God. Yes, brother. That's how I do things on my platform. I'm grateful to do it on yours. Thank you for joining me the way I usually do it.[00:03:59] When in [00:04:00] Rome do as the Romans, how are you brother? [00:04:03] De'Vannon: I'm doing fabulous. Um, I can't complain. I want to, I want to very humbly throw in my, uh, Coney Tiwa.[00:04:19] I've got to, because I'm studying Japanese, you know, to that have visited Japan a couple of years ago. And I was already in love with Godzilla and anime and everything like that. And I finally solidified that with hanging out with the peoples. So now I'm studying the language itself, so I cannot leave out my Japanese people.[00:04:38] Um, because it's gonna throw a little bit of shade at their prime minister for hosting the Olympics, because I don't think he should have done that in the middle of a pandemic while they got the COVID outbreak going on amongst the. Okay. Okay. But I do understand it to be politically fueled since he's like up for reelection a few months.[00:04:55] I think it's a hot mess. I love Japan and the people of Japan are not really [00:05:00] happy with him for doing that. I just wanted to talk about that and talk about him. He was talking about Japan other than that great country. Absolutely. So, um, so you have crumb TV. I want you to tell us about your website, your PowerPoints, and the things you have going on and your YouTube channel, which is quite prolific.[00:05:22] Crumb: Okay. Thank you. Thank you so much. Yeah, I could. Well, okay. My biggest platform as of this particular, second is an because that's just how quickly it changes is YouTube. It's crumb TV. And it started out as crumb snatcher. I just wanted to expand it to, I started working with other people it's not egotistical.[00:05:42] I was thinking in the mind of CNN, you know, it's not the guy who owned CNN's name, it's CNN. Uh, and I wanted crumb TV to be more so like that, where it's less about me and more about the information. Um, I am on Instagram. I am on Twitter. I, I, I've got [00:06:00] a viral Twitter thing going on. Um, I'm on, uh, uh, Facebook.[00:06:06] I have a huge platform, like 60,000 on Facebook, but you know, the reason I don't really promote. Thank you. Thank you. The reason I don't promote those platforms cause they they'll be monetize me. They'll shadow banned me. They'll restrict me. And I'm just tired of promoting everybody's platform and they, they do me so janky.[00:06:24] So, uh, my. The headquarters is crumb tv.info. I know it's not the.com or.net, but I felt.info fit. So I just ran with it, crumb tv.info. It's in the spirit of what I do. So I hope I answered your question. [00:06:41] De'Vannon: Yeah, you, you did. That's the exact thing I thought when I went to your website, it said.info. And I was like, you know, I don't really ever see that, but the way your website is compelled, I think that this made more sense than a.com for you and it's all on the same internet anyways.[00:06:55] So it doesn't really matter what the.is. So, [00:07:00] but of the choices that I think that you made the best one, but give me more detail. Are you out to say something? [00:07:06] Crumb: Yeah. I just remembered now that I think about the website, um, you asked me about the PowerPoints and, you know, I guess that would really encompass a lot of what I do.[00:07:16] So I. I come from Christianity, you know, it's the same old story. I'm just like you in so many different ways. I know that's your background as well. So I'm innocently not trying to be a rebel. I was a good Christian brother. I was a good Christian [00:07:33] De'Vannon: emphasis on was[00:07:41] Crumb: we fall down, but we get up.[00:07:48] So, um, uh, I was asking questions, not from a place where I'm, I'm, I'm going against anything. So, you know, um, I was received with push. It wasn't a [00:08:00] pleasant experience. And, um, the internet had came out. I I'm, I'm 38. I'll be 39. This November, I'm close to 40, you know, I [00:08:10] De'Vannon: I'm, I'll be 39 in December. Come off. Oh, really?[00:08:14] I'm 38. [00:08:15] Crumb: Okay. So our age group, we are, you know, where I'm from. I know where you from, you know, I'm your reflection. So now, um, uh, I didn't, we didn't grow up with cell phones. You know, I can remember a time where we had C like I thought tapes was old school. Now CDs are old school, right. iPods are old school.[00:08:36] Right. Th the, you know, it's, it's been a really quick jump for, for our age group. I digressed. So now, um, I'm just now getting on the computer, really just, you know, prior to. Um, adulthood, I didn't have access to a computer until, unless I went to school and that was all for educational purposes. So, um, I'm, I'm asking questions on the internet [00:09:00] and I was received with the same energy as the church.[00:09:03] It was a V go, look it up, go do your research. And this is what people even say now. Um, and for me, I don't like that energy. So I decided to be a thought leader. I decided to be an influencer. I'm not going to tell people to look it up. Maybe I'm going to influence people to be lazy or to be a slave, to my own portion of understanding.[00:09:21] But I think. I've done for you. What I've done for everybody else, I've run interest to a topic I've shared my opinion. I want to encourage everybody, even your listeners. Of course, absolutely shout out to everybody who's within the listening audience. So, you know, let me broach the topic, but by all means my, my portion of understanding is not the end all be all.[00:09:41] I think it makes for great conversation. It makes for the whole, the holistic learning experience. And the PowerPoints is what I do is on a Chrome TV, a website, and all my plat platforms, you know, even on Instagram, I'll just break the PowerPoints up into like a little tidbit and Hey, the one minute teaser type of thing.[00:09:58] And that's basically [00:10:00] what I do. And I think that's in essence, what I was trying to show you what you caught on to. [00:10:06] De'Vannon: Right. And, um, and I, I agree. I like, um, I like the whole concept of being a thought provoking. Um, I'm, I'm a stronger advocate though, of people. Doing their own research. Not necessarily if somebody, like, if you're, if you ask somebody a question and that's the way they responded to you and they're supposed to be an expert on it, or they're supposed to know more than you, I don't like that.[00:10:35] But, but in order for us to not become codependent on pastors, preachers and stuff like that is a form of independence and the be sure of you not food, you know, and stuff like that. That's why I say, well, perhaps we should fact check, you know, like that, but sometimes people are not going to be motivated to get up and like go grab a thick ass concordance.[00:10:57] Like I will, um, [00:11:00] in the commentary. So maybe an interesting video like yours and that can go, um, you know, head, head achingly deep into something might be less intimidating for somebody to get them down that path. So I think that it's a good thing that you have and stuff like that. Um, now I'm more of a. A hard ass about people becoming, you know, disciplined in their research, just because of my history, having been the one with my head way too far up of past, or the assets and believing what they said.[00:11:32] And without question, and I ended up getting myself hurt over that kicked out of the church and everything for being a member of the alphabet, a mafia, my letters have changed over the years. So, um, and so I really don't want people to fall into that trap of thinking, just because they're up on a stage, they know more know the truth.[00:11:55] And, um, but you know, our parents are the people who brought us to church in my, in my [00:12:00] experience, never taught us to question the people up there. They just told us what they said goes, and now we're supposed to change. We think according to what they say, and that's both shit that, oh, shit. Okay. So a couple of fun facts and things about you before we talk about our delicious, lovely lessees, or, or as you said on your video, nah,[00:12:29] I want to talk about, apparently you drink your own urine. Um, when I read this, it reminded me of when I used to get high on crystal meth and engage in water sports. I think I did that like at least one time, like, like, like you had to go like let a guy pee in my asshole and that's like a whole fetish and everything like that, which I'm not into, but when I used to be high on meth and there was nothing I would say no to, I would do any fucking thing question, but [00:13:00] tell us why is it some health things that like a holistic thing?[00:13:03] Is it spiritual? [00:13:06] Crumb: Well, absolutely. You know, it's, it's, it's incredible for me when people ask the question, it's in such a way that it's obvious that they know the answer, you know, not, not even sliding your question, but I feel like you, you you're connected. And I think that's why it even, you know, resonated with you to, uh, to, to ask about it.[00:13:25] Um, a lot of people, they can't even fathom. That's what I always say, especially in the age of, you got to Google it to get the right answer. You got to ask the right question and I have to, I have to, um, uh, give you your flowers again, because you were able to ask the right question. So basically let's start from, from, from day one, when we're dealing with drinking our year and the pertinent that the average person will tell, you know, I've never drank in my urine.[00:13:50] Well, the reality is we've all drank in our urine. If we look at when we're in the womb, uh, doing gestation when our mothers are carrying us, uh, that, that. [00:14:00] Called amniotic fluid that the baby's floating in that's urine. Like the mama doesn't get big until maybe around the fifth month, second trimester, or, you know, whatever the case may be.[00:14:11] But that's because the baby's kidneys have just formed around him. So now she's going to fill up with urine. So now, um, urine is really the fountain of youth. Um, it's it's, it's going to keep you looking youthful now. Uh it's. I will drink my urine. No problem. I'm not saying I don't. However, comma I am saying that it's probably going to be best to drink a woman's urine.[00:14:33] Number two is going to be best to drink a pregnant woman's urine because she has four kidneys. She's the only person. I mean animals, but you know, she's the only human who's able to, who, you know, has, has a filtration system that's sophisticated at any point in time. One more point I'll pass the mic. My father was a diabetic.[00:14:51] A lot of our families, we have diabetes, whether that be the bad cultures, slavery, poor choices, whatever the [00:15:00] case may be. Um, you know, diabetes runs in our families, not saying it's hereditary, but due to conditions above our control sometimes anyway. So, you know, uh, my father was no exception to that. He lost his kidneys, um, and they had this big machine.[00:15:15] This is, this is called a dialysis unit. And I'm like, dang, this big machine, which is bigger than me. I'm, I'm, I'm only five, six bear with me. Um, so machine is bigger than me and it's supposed to replace the job of a kidney. This. I'm sorry, your kidneys about the size of your fist, same thing with your heart.[00:15:32] It's about to, you know, relatively whatever that size. So, you know, the sophistication of the kidney is just out of this world. I'll just, I'll pass the mic from there. [00:15:42] De'Vannon: Right. It is very sophisticated. And I learned a lot about that. My massage therapy training, cause I'm a licensed massage therapist. And so, so we had to get, I had to dig all into the anatomy and just the way the body works in and of itself is it's like a, it's like a computer [00:16:00] in different parts, know everything.[00:16:01] And so, so yeah, anything all out there that can vanish or rebuke diabetes. So this is a big deal. Like my aunt had it and my grandmother had it, you know, like, um, you know, you know, my boyfriend's dad, I think has it, you know, it's a big deal, especially here in south and you over there in, uh, in Atlanta, Yeah.[00:16:24] And, uh, oh, which is where my boyfriend's family's from. They, they, uh, they up north they're in Snellville, [00:16:32] Crumb: Snellville shut up Snellville. [00:16:34] De'Vannon: And, uh, so yeah, anything that you can do, Hey, I'm that, you know, what they can't hurt you is all natural. It is an organic drink. [00:16:42] Crumb: Well, I I'll say this just to kind of make it, uh, more anecdotal.[00:16:47] I remember grandma would say, um, to clear your skin up, wipe your face with the baby's pee pamper. Have you heard that before? [00:16:56] De'Vannon: use like watermelon Rines.[00:17:00] [00:17:01] Crumb: Okay. Okay. That's that's that's dope. Um, okay. Well, have you heard this when you get stung by jellyfish, you pee on it? [00:17:10] De'Vannon: Yeah. Okay. [00:17:13] Crumb: So you only reason I'm bringing these things up is because in our culture, you know, at the mom and dad level, not at the hospital, but you know, we, we, we know in certain aspects, the urine has a medicinal effect to some minor degree.[00:17:29] The urine is medicinal that's that's, that's, that's at the very least of what I can say. You know, I can go on for an hour. I know you got more for me. I just want to make an argument, uh, pro urine. [00:17:42] De'Vannon: Right? And look, I I'll hang a yellow bend down out of my back pocket. Some people out there bandanas in the, in the gay world have meaning, you know, yellow bandanas has to do with water sports.[00:17:54] The black one might be. BDSM don't quote me on that, but it's like a whole [00:18:00] color chart of different bandanas colors and what they mean in the fetish world, because I did like fetish research at one point, I thought [00:18:07] Crumb: you would just be in funny. Okay. That's true.[00:18:17] De'Vannon: But no, like I was watching Madonna on David Lerman years ago and she was saying like how she pees on her feet to get like, you can do it and it'll clear out like athlete's feet. I don't know if she was saying, I don't know if she was saying she had, at least when she was saying that she knows it because of the enzymes in the urine or something.[00:18:35] So I pee on my feet all the time. I'm like, by the way, it's this year and in the shower, [00:18:41] Crumb: David. Uh, huh? He is is, is one now he's, he's not a, a propagator of drinking, but I ha uh, if you go on YouTube, but internet, whatever, uh, and look up, you know, uh, you're in therapy. He's one of the people going to come up.[00:18:58] Um, I don't even really, you [00:19:00] know, deal with him. I I've heard of him, but you know, other than when I saw him do that, like, oh wow, he's doing it. And it was like a real at home video, like on his Instagram. He's like, yeah, guys, you know, there's an old video, but nonetheless, um, you know, he had, did like, Hey guys, this is what I do at night.[00:19:16] Uh, he'll just do whatever, um, you know, and just wipe it off in the morning or whatever the case may be. Uh, so he's another one. And I would say, I know there's a lot of Hollywood magic smoking mirrors, but you know, from what I saw on his Instagram, or I don't know where he was at, but from what I saw in his raw video, his skin looked pretty.[00:19:34] De'Vannon: Yeah. He's, he's kept himself looking good over the years. His teeth is like the main thing he's gotten, like, you know, endorsements for and stuff like that. Um, so I'm curious, do you filter it or do you just pee right in the cup and gulp it down or you refrigerated and you take it with. The sugar and salt, the rim, you know, how exactly do you, how has this served?[00:19:59] Crumb: [00:20:00] You[00:20:05] know? Yeah. I, uh, actually try to get it as fresh as possible. I wouldn't drink it after about a day. Um, when you're dealing with urine, the main active ingredient is urea. Urea is synthesize nitrogen and on a science-y level is going to go through a cycle. If, if, if you're in sits for too long, it starts to turn into a Monia.[00:20:26] It starts to get a smell to it. So fresh urine is absolutely the best. Um, now here's another unpopular one is not as, as, as big as urine, but it's very unpopular, um, uh, urine as well as all drinks should be certain, not all drinks, but drink should be served at room two. Your drink should be served at room temperature.[00:20:47] So, um, uh, your urine, as soon as you urinated out, it's already at body temperature. I'm sorry. Excuse me. Not room temperature, you room temperature, body temperature, please. Forgive me. Um, so now, [00:21:00] uh, just like with your water, I am a supporter or, or a propagator of drinking room, temperature, water as a health benefit.[00:21:07] I know we're supposed to be talking about things a little bit more exciting, but Hey guys, you know what, if you want to be a rebel, drink your water room temperature, but in addition to that, your urine should be room tone. It should be fresh within a date. Um, not only should you drink it, put it up your nose, don't breathe it in, but put it up your nose, uh, in your ears.[00:21:26] Uh, clean your eyes out with it. Conjunctivitis gets rid of all of that. Um, it's a retainer for water. So it's going to make your skin fill up with water. You're going to, you know, because remember when we get old, we get wrinkly. So we're going to hold the water in place with that. This is the same thing that, um, Botox is doing is, is, is holding that, that, that stuff in place that the collagen, you know, cause once we get older, those things, uh, get wear and tear, but we're just going through deep dehydration really.[00:21:51] And that's why they're going to say for real, honestly, black don't crack. You got good skin brother. I don't, I doubt you're doing a urine thing. You've got good skin. [00:22:00] You've got good genes, but not everybody has good genes. Like. Um, you know, you have a youth for parents. I have a youth where parents, you're probably going to keep it all your life.[00:22:09] Your mom and dad probably looked like that. I wouldn't be surprised. However, just for a little added benefit, I'd say urine is good. Not needed, not necessary. Hey, you're not getting stung by jellyfish every day, but Hey, it does have medicinal, uh, effects. [00:22:25] De'Vannon: Um, do you think that, you know, keeping in the vein of the water, so you know how like you're in can be like darker and you can carry an odor for persons not properly hydrated, or maybe if their kidneys aren't filtering.[00:22:37] And I just want to say, if you do have like a, a problem with odor in your year, and then you can use like, um, or at least it works for me, uh, carbonated water to drink that. And it will banish that odor and take care of whatever it is that's causing it. So is it better for someone to drink their urine when it's clear when they're better, better hydrated, as opposed to when it's dark yellow and they're not as hydrated, it doesn't mean.[00:22:58] Crumb: No. No, I'm so glad you [00:23:00] said that. I really appreciate you for saying that signs and symbols are for the conscious mind. I don't want the family when I start talking like that to think about masonry or witchcraft, you know, it's just even when or, you know, anything, uh, the secret, uh, Donald Trump collusion thing, just really simple things.[00:23:18] Um, if, you know, number one, our urines is not supposed to be dark. I kind of make jokes about these things. I say dark skin to everything, you know, or light skin. I say light skin to everything. Uh, if my water has something in it is like that. It's one of the dark skin. I just make those types of jokes. But anyway, no, you're, you're, you're in should not be dark skin.[00:23:36] Your urine should be light-skinned. Your urine should be clear. Um, if you're drinking heavy on a sodas, if your diet is not where it should be, you're going to get telltale signs. And if your urine doesn't smell right, uh, let that be a. Um, uh, a trigger, a flag to just, um, um, clean yourself out. [00:24:00] Once you clean yourself out, you get the body to optimal place where it should be.[00:24:04] Then at that point. Yeah. You can go and do things, but, you know, um, I'll tell you this, just to be mature about this. Um, for, for, for, even as a man who I say, Hey, only drink a woman's urine. If she has had sex within the last hour, I would not say drink her urine, even though the urine is not coming from.[00:24:25] Place it's coming from somewhere else, but just to be responsible about it, you know, um, don't don't, even for me, if I have, have had sex within an hour for myself, I'm not drinking my own urine. This is not about anybody else. This is just being responsible. If my year is dark, if it has an odor, if I know I've been cheating, I came from the club last night, I was drinking hint dog.[00:24:48] Uh, I might not do it then, but if I'm, you know, because, Hey, I'm not saying be a vegan Nazi. At one point in time, I was a vegan Nazi bear with me, you know, we can get carried away sometimes. [00:25:00] So, um, I don't want to encourage anybody to jump off the cliff. My mother, my father was a diabetic. That's a part of my life.[00:25:06] My mother was a cereal, um, diet. She tried any and every, every diet that came out in the nineties, my mom did it one month. I'm like, mom, she's like, I'm going to do nothing but eat grapefruit for 30 days. I don't know. I don't know, mom, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a teenager at the time. I, I'm not smart, but I'm not like, I don't know if that's going to be good.[00:25:29] You might ask, like, I don't know. I don't think it's a good idea. Right? You're going to fall off. Great. But nonetheless, um, so, you know, even for me growing up, I understand, you know, both sides of it. I don't want to be an extremist. I don't want to, you know, just be blind to my health. And I know there's a balance within it.[00:25:52] You know, I'm not saying go off the edge, but drink some water, clean yourself out fast. Don't be a vegan, [00:26:00] do be a vegan, you know, to be, not to be is the question, but fast, do a little exercise, putting yourself out once you do those things, then at that point, absolutely. You know, partake. [00:26:14] De'Vannon: And then I wanted to, um, to say what's that when he was saw him about.[00:26:21] Um, if, if a woman's had sex to wait like an hour, because he comes from a different hole, some of those who have not had anatomy training like I have, or who may not be as well versed with the vagina as you are, uh, you know, from all your dealings with it as a man who seems to primarily identify if that resectable.[00:26:43] So there's actually, I did, I had to learn about this from school because I've had very few women, I liked it and that's my story, and I'm sticking to it. But when you are dealing with a vagina and I didn't know this till I was in massage therapy school, so what he's saying out there, um, [00:27:00] cause there might be some man Evans, women who may not fully understand their anatomy too.[00:27:05] So, so there's, so this Bayer is saying, you know, come on. So there's like a tiny little hole and I think it's somewhere around. Like under the clutter is where actually the pee comes from. Come on. Yes, sir. And then the big one is what we know and think about when we say vagina, that's where the big, those are the Philadelphia or the tongue or the fingers or whatever.[00:27:25] Fuck cucumber, you put up there.[00:27:34] And so, um, so that's what he was saying, where he was saying to people from a different place, because like vaginal secretions and fluids and things like that, the babies and all of that comes out of the big VAT. And no-code nail when there's this tiny little hole it's like on top of that, that's like, just repeat on.[00:27:51] We [00:27:52] Crumb: just, you know, and if, if I could come out of closet in a sense, no pun intended. I didn't know that for a very [00:28:00] long. You know, just being honest about it, you know? So, um, I don't want to come off like V heterosexual expert, um, to where, oh, he knows women. Well, I'm still learning as well. Um, and, um, I was even surprised, you know what, you know, my, oh, wow.[00:28:18] I didn't know that. Um, you know, and I guess for me it would be a little bit more embarrassing, but nonetheless, absolutely. We learned together. I just want to put that out there. [00:28:28] De'Vannon: We sure do. Now let me pivot to, yeah. So the sum that up once your body's healthy urine is clear, you're taking care of yourself and diet on point.[00:28:37] Then you can drink your feet other than that. Don't and if you've had sex, wait an hour. Yeah. So, um, so I'm going to ask both of these in the same question. You talked about Jesus being fake and as God, really the double. And, uh, you said you were [00:29:00] a good Christian before. Uh, I'm curious as to where you coming from with this and break this down for us.[00:29:10] Crumb: Well, you know, and here let me, and I, I'm not saying this because I'm here with you. This is how I really talk on my platform when, when, when I've got some information that I'm holding and I come out of the closet every single time. So let me come out of the closet again. Um, in a way I still resonate as a real grill as a good Christian, you know, um, I still have a interest in reading the Bible.[00:29:35] I still enjoy learning about the biblical stories. I still see the value within the message. Guilty and guilty, you know? Um, so I don't want to be this atheist guy who you y'all know. Jesus. No, no, no, no. You know, uh, thou shall not steal asshole. Don't play with me.[00:30:00] [00:30:00] De'Vannon: Amen. On Monday morning.[00:30:05] Crumb: Um, yeah. Um, so yeah, I, uh, I'm sorry, ask me that question one more time and I'll answer it head on. [00:30:14] De'Vannon: Yeah. So some thoughts about, you know, you know, Jesus being faking of God, the devil. [00:30:23] Crumb: So now number one, the story of the Bible was. Fake, we have to understand with all due respect you and I, uh, we speak English and for me, I'm just going to assume that we're both not from England.[00:30:38] That's not a part of our culture. We have a hard time connecting with it. We, we, we, we were forced to read Romeo and Juliet. Um, you know, we couldn't, I can, uh, Juliet, Juliet, uh, come Heather mother and mother buy-in by icon. And this is you, you know, just watching, listening to the [00:31:00] whole thing, you know, in the best school we do voice, you know, what are they talking about?[00:31:05] Um, so, you know, I struggle with English and some aspects, whether it be. Uh, modern English. Um, by the time, uh, black children get to fifth grade, their European counterparts know approximately 10,000 more words than we do. So a lot of times we don't understand the message or what's really being conveyed.[00:31:26] So now when we go and look at, uh, uh, the, the Bible is fake, well, what do you mean fake? And this is what I even tasked Europeans with, depending on where they're at. Even college graduates are across gender lines. I'm sorry, racial lines. Um, uh, I'll ask them to define that word. Cause a lot of times you're going to find there's a, there's a, a, a disconnect with the language.[00:31:52] That's why we don't even, um, I'm digressing. That's why we don't even do good with math because even in math, there's word problems. [00:32:00] So now when we say, oh, the Bible is fake, define fake, the Bible is not just all out fake. I'm not defending the Bible. I'm going home. I did that. You know, that, that that's not even God, that's the devil, but I'm not defending the Bible.[00:32:15] I'm just saying that the Bible is allegorical. It's metaphorical. It's, it's poetic. You know, we say certain things, there are in your windows. You can say something without saying it. You know how to talk that talk. I know how to talk that talk. [00:32:36] De'Vannon: No, you, for example, like, um, give us an example of like the allegory or like, uh, saying something without saying it, if that, that, that would come to mind right now.[00:32:48] Oh, [00:32:48] Crumb: absolutely. You know, and this is what I got exactly from school. I'm going back to when I was in, I think sixth grade, the teacher said to us, my love is like a red, red rose, or my love is a red, red rose. [00:33:00] Well, number one, my love is like a red, red rose is a metaphor. Your love and the number one you cannot scientifically define love.[00:33:09] Go look it up. Define love. No I can't. No, there's no scientific definition for love. That's number one. So now we have to express it in a different way. So now in metaphor, well, what is love? Well, my love is like a red, red rose. That's a metaphor. Well, here's assembling. My love is a red, red rose. And which you use something to describe something else that you cannot describe.[00:33:29] You know, some at some points in time, no matter how sophisticated any of us may be, we are at a loss. For words, you did there's emotions that both of us have felt that you cannot describe it's it's indescribable. There are no words to describe that feeling, that emotion, that mindset, that mind state, because our, you know, we, we, the language doesn't, you know, it's just not that sophisticated within nature of itself.[00:33:55] So now we have to understand certain things aren't going to be given to you [00:34:00] directly. You can't define love is scientifically love. Doesn't need to be. Well, we did the, the, the, the test and yeah, she's in love. You can't do. [00:34:12] De'Vannon: So. Are you saying that that same rule kind of applies to the, to the realness of the things that are contained in the Bible?[00:34:19] Crumb: Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. The Bible is significant. Just like the story of the three little pigs is significant. The throat, the story of the three little pigs in a certain way, as facts, you, you have ass, so shit built this bullshit [00:34:38] De'Vannon: strong [00:34:38] Crumb: house you playing around. Uh, so now, you know, you and me, we go hard.[00:34:46] You know, we, we are, some people are talkers, some people are doers, some people are, are, are the grasshoppers. Some people are aunts, brother. You're not really an aunt, you know, but you know, you [00:35:00] encompassed or you embody that idea of that energy that you. He got that. And, and, you know, we do that through, um, our cartoons and even the hieroglyphs where, you know, there's a, a Hawk head on this guy.[00:35:13] And, but it's, it's not that he's a Hawk. It's just, he has a vision, like a hardcore, just some aspect of the animal to represent what you're really saying. So when I go to the Bible, I'm not trying to tell you these stories to say, believe in Jesus. No, I don't. I don't believe in Jesus with all due respect, but the ideas encompassed, those ideas are legitimate.[00:35:34] And if this is a medium to teach you that, then so be it. That's all I'm saying. It has relevance in a certain way, um, songs. Um, how do we learn best 90, 90 beats per minute is, um, is, uh, is rhythmic. It's melodic is hypnotic most. [00:36:00] I, my, my baby can't can't remember this, but he knows all the, all the songs, all the words of the rap song.[00:36:05] Why is that? Because you delivered it in a way when you first started teaching that baby, how did you teach them through song tween, go tween, go Ludo star a, B, C, D E F G. If it's not broke, don't fix it, but that's something we've gotten away from. So now when we go through learning through a different medium, if it's going to take Jesus to let your ass stop stealing, then Hey, whatever it is to be like the Tiki teaching mechanism is here.[00:36:35] No there, as long as you get the message. So I'm not saying the Bible is real, or these stories really happen to do walked on water. No, he did not walk on water. I do not believe that, you know, literally, but allegorically poetically three little pigs. His ass did not build a fucking brick house in for real.[00:36:58] But, you know what I [00:37:00] mean? You know, that's my brother. So when I walk up to you without brother, so then somebody outside. Oh, that's really your brother. No, no. What I mean, my brother, man, [00:37:10] De'Vannon: that's my brother. And so there's this, this is the coolest thing that, uh, that, uh, that I wanted to point out. And one of the main reasons I wanted to have you on the show, because I knew that we didn't necessarily agree on everything.[00:37:25] And, and I, and I wanted that intentionally because I like to surround myself with people who not, who don't see all the point of views the same. It's like, it's like when my democratic people on MSBC have a crazy ass Republican on the show you have, I'm not calling you a crazy answer, Republican, but I'm saying I wouldn't dare insult.[00:37:47] You. That's like the lowest of the low right now, but, but it creates a good texture, represented different perspectives. And that, to me, I'm not saying that I have it all figured out. [00:38:00] So, so let's get civil to let's talk to everybody. People who don't believe in Jesus. I do people I've talked to somebody who stuck Satan's Dick for all.[00:38:08] I care as long as the, of the, um, conversation was thought provoking and help to my audience, because my show, you know, the shows where people who already believe in God, but for a lot of people were considering all kinds of ways and I'm not naive. Everybody's not going to be a Christian, you know, and not everybody's going to be this religion or that religion, but it isn't important for us to search and research and think, and, you know, conversations like this started the way I looked at the Bible.[00:38:36] So what you're saying is some of it might be real. Some of them might not be all in all gleaned the good stories for it and go live your life. And don't be an asshole or a Dick to somebody out there. And you know, if, from my perspective, through the personal experiences I've had with. You know, and with the holy ghost in particular, God has revealed himself to me through dreams that come true in different experiences [00:39:00] that I have had where he has put his hands on me.[00:39:02] And I would not expect somebody to believe in God, unless he has proven himself to them in some sort of way that they know that they can latch. Hold of. And if that's meant to happen for somebody in some sort of way, when they're reading through the Bible are exposed to Jesus in some way, then that's what's for them.[00:39:20] If it doesn't happen, or if it hasn't happened yet, well then maybe it's not for them or maybe it's far off, but it's not, but I'm not about to just have people around me who, who only talk about, you know, who only believe in Jesus and stuff like that. It's important to have everybody. And I don't look at you as somebody who I need to convert or change.[00:39:39] I don't, you know, then I've had people in the past who thought that I wasn't a believer and I totally was who only wanted to become close to me to try to get me to go to church them and stuff like that. And I thought that was just some fuck shit. And so and so no. And so, so we both agree. People should read different texts.[00:39:57] All of them have I had a child, I would just [00:40:00] put all the Bibles in front of them that the, the, the, the Koran, the Torah, the, you know, And then we would have a conversation and he's gonna have to pick what appeals to him. Now, I would say recommend the Lord, but God don't have to go with it. Like he did through people in the Bible.[00:40:13] And he met when God had already, he reached out to people and said, okay, I'm real. And here's why you should personally believe in me. And so if they come speak great, if it doesn't great, but just don't steal from me in the meantime.[00:40:30] Crumb: Well, you know, and I say, I agree 1000000% and I appreciate your perspective. Uh, I'm not sure if you interpret us as disagreeing, but I, at this 100000.0% agree. And you know, I try my best to find where, you know, this, the bonds that hold us together are stronger than the forces that divide us. We can easily find something to disagree on.[00:40:48] I don't mind. But anyway, um, what I was going to say is what does a w what makes a cult, a cult? A cult is a cult when you're not allowed to talk to anybody [00:41:00] with conflicting views, Uh, uh, everybody except for you and people who think like you and believe what you believe are going to hell and they're all bad people it's really that black and white.[00:41:11] Um, you know, we are only going to put ourselves in this small little bubble of reality and any other ideas are the devil. Um, so when you say, Hey, I have my, uh, thoughts, opinions, beliefs, perspectives, perspectives, portion of understanding, wisdom through experience, so on and so forth and sharing that with the child.[00:41:32] That's your risk or person that's your responsibility. Absolutely. And I agree 1000000% with that. And that is when it doesn't become a cult, you know, but I was raised in a cult. Nope. Neal Christianity. You know, if you brought the Koran in my mama house, you can't bring no goddamn Koran in this bitch.[00:41:59] [00:42:00] Fuck. Suicide bombers. My mama don't play that shit. So now, uh, you know, but you know, it's, that's how narrow the perspective is for different religions, you know, even seven day Adventist or did your homework. If you not a Jehovah witness your hope. If you don't go to kingdom hall, I don't care if you believe in Jesus or not, you ass, your ass is gas.[00:42:22] De'Vannon: They didn't break their birthdays though. I don't, I can't fuck. What did you hope was witnesses on? Like, y'all just don't have no fun at all. So, so, so y'all w what, what Chrome is saying, it's something that I'm going to be addressing in my second book that I'm going to be working on, and it's going to be all about my memoir would be out sexual agencies is the memoir is going to be out later this year, but, um, I'm starting another book.[00:42:49] That's going to actually talk about the abandonment of Christianity, the fuck show become versus what it originally was. So. Because [00:43:00] anybody logical looking like a child, examining all the options today. If they were to look at Christianity, they would go accelerate. What exactly is it? You know, because it's not on one accord, you have 50 million translations of the Bible.[00:43:14] You have 50 million different Christian denominations. It looks like a confusing shit show and it is not a respectable, however, that's why people like me are writing things and coming out and being very vocal against the church. I won't be vocal against the Lord because I view him apart from that. But somebody new in faith does not yet know how to separate the two.[00:43:36] And so then they're just going to be like, well, fuck it all. And not worry about it. And so. That will be being addressed. And yet Christianity was called is called, like, because they had me believe in Christians were the only people it's particularly the church of God in Christ were the only people Pentecostals that were going to go to heaven.[00:43:56] Everyone else got it wrong. I'm going to go to hell. And I remember thinking like how in the fuck could [00:44:00] I be so lucky to just there and the other billions of people in the world down, no, this don't make sense. And so, and there's all kinds of reasons why that is, and people feel better about themselves and making other people feel smaller and you know, in the church does that, you know?[00:44:21] Yeah. But it's their way or the highway. They weren't interested in having open discussions, you know, don't drink alcohol. Well, why and wines all throughout the Bible. That doesn't make sense, but just don't do it because we said so, you know, so I am not actually an avid fond in a PR person. Who's like a strong advocate of going to church.[00:44:42] You know, I believe that we have our most sincere experiences with the Lord at home, by herself. [00:44:51] Crumb: Let me, let me go to church[00:44:57] De'Vannon: that if you would've pulled up, well, one of them white [00:45:00] usher glove[00:45:09] Crumb: with all due respect, this is church where two or more a guy that brother, this is church. It is. So, you know, I just want to put some respect on the name that, you know, I, you, the floor, [00:45:22] De'Vannon: when you said two or more, there's a scripture in the Bible, in the Hebrew Bible. And I do like to remind people that the king James version, all of these Bibles that people fight over in America, ain't ours.[00:45:31] It came from the middle east. And so I just want to give the proper people credit. So that's why I say the Hebrew by. Um, there's a scripture in there that says where two or more are gathered together. In my name there will I be in the midst? And that is God saying, when two people get together, I'm going to be there with gal now with you, if you by yourself too.[00:45:50] But he's saying that there's a threefold cord is not easily broken. So what he's telling us is that there's strength in numbers and that he will be there with us. [00:46:00] And so what he's saying is we have in church here on this Monday morning as we are. Conversing, and we won't be judged here. You will be welcomed who you are and all of your points of views and your tour and your Keren and your Buddhist texts too, will be there.[00:46:18] Um, I go down well before the pandemic, you know, I would go down sometimes to the Buddhist temple that we have here and, you know, meditate that great vegetarian food, and then I'm bald too, you know? And then there, so we got along great all now you mentioned music earlier and you have this thing called the curse of gospel music.[00:46:43] And so I want to keep in the same spiritual vein. I don't want you to break down with the curse of gospel music is [00:46:49] Crumb: absolutely. Um, I do want to apologize. You did ask a question and I want to attack it head on. You said, uh, why do I call God the devil and, and just really quickly, and I'll address [00:47:00] gospel music is because it really ties together.[00:47:03] Jesus told them ye are gods L on sprays that isn't, it written a year guys. And he was referring to Psalms chapter 82, verse six, where it says and your gods. Um, so, um, but on a personal level, just like you, you, we are the gods. We are the devils, just like when we see, um, the, the angel and the devil sitting on your side.[00:47:27] You know, these are just, and what do the angel, the devil look like? They look like you because he's just aspects in your mind or does God gods in my mind what that's cause it's in your mind, God had devil's in my mind. That's because the devil's in your mind, um, you know, cause you are the devil. You are God, and these are decisions you have to make, you have to live with.[00:47:43] You can be devilish, you can be holy. Uh, some people, you are their devil. You are there Bain. Some people, you are the God, you're just a beautiful person in them. And these are just aspects of self. I do believe in God. I do believe in the devil. Uh, but they are one in the same. And it is all aspects within us now going on to the gospel or the curse of, [00:48:00] of, of the gospel music.[00:48:02] I was basically speaking from a black perspective. Um, a lot of my platform is, uh, all things black, uh, for us and, um, gospel music came the only general of music to ever be associated with a people is his old Negro spirituals. There's never been another John rev music to be associated like, you know, um, Asian music.[00:48:24] There's no. That's being racist. It's not called Asian music. Oh, that's Mexican music. No, no Latino music. No. You know, and it might be Moraine gay, but you know, but anyway, so now Negro spirituals was the only genera of music named after a people from Negro spirituals. We're going to get gospel music.[00:48:42] Gospel has, is a girl. She's a beautiful woman. Now she has a twin sister. Gospel's a good girl. She goes to church every Sunday. She reads a Bible, go to church every Wednesday, whatever the case may be. She [00:48:55] De'Vannon: hasn't already that she may eat or [00:48:57] Crumb: eat. This is just an example of me being poetic. Uh, [00:49:00] similarly, uh, an example.[00:49:02] So now, uh, she has a sister. Gospel has a sister. Her name is jazz. Some people call her blues. Uh, some people call her R and B rhythm and blues. But, um, just like you meet with, with, uh, with gospel every Sunday morning, this is after slavery every Sunday morning and actually during slavery as well. So you meet with, uh, w w with Negro spirituals every Sunday morning.[00:49:27] And it continues on with gospel her daughter every Sunday morning, her, uh, her, uh, her other daughter, her twin daughter, that, that the dark one, you meet with her every Saturday night at what we call the juke joint. This is the history of gospel. A lot of those gospel singers. They didn't make a lot of money, but they could sing Nate assau.[00:49:48] So now those gospel singers turn around and go to the juke joint Saturday night and make a couple coins. You know, this is all just a feed. The family nobody's getting rich, cause a juke joint is a hole in the wall. [00:50:00] Uh, it's a speak easy it's, you know, something, you know, it's not on the map. You gotta know somebody to find out how to get there and knock on a door, a certain type of way in case the cops come, you, everybody run, you know, that type of situation.[00:50:13] So now, um, with that said the Jews, cause we're dealing with religion, the Jews come in and they go to these, these, uh, juke joints and they start, um, hiring these artists onto their labels. The most famous movie about this happening is Cadillac records, uh, with, uh, Beyonce was in there. That one Jewish boy was in there.[00:50:40] Uh, I really liked him too. That, that, that, that one Jewish boy. He's a good actor. Anyway. So now, um, uh, You know, a lot of these juke joints came from down south because slavery was down south. The plantation was down south. So now once you see the first big crossover, the first big crossover is [00:51:00] Sam cook.[00:51:01] Sam cook, uh, was a big gospel artists. And this is basically why is there a curse? Because everybody who went from gospel to secular following behind the Jew die tragically, Sam cook died tragically. After Sam cook died, tragically Bobby Womack, uh, uh, took Sam Cooke's wife to his funeral, married her three months later has sex with Sam Cook's daughter, uh, at the age of 15, just six months after.[00:51:30] So now, um, this is, this is not just the case. You say, oh, well, Sam cook, oh, my Bobby Womack is such an asshole, but you know, this isn't this and this and that, yada, yada, yada. But this is the thing. There might be a such thing as karma, because it is said that, uh, you know, what comes around, goes around Sam cook, doesn't get, uh, Aretha Franklin pregnant at 12.[00:51:51] A lot of people will tell you a Rita Franklin child that she had at 12 years old, Sam, that Sam Cooke, baby, other people like Ray [00:52:00] Charles will tell you that, uh, that 12 year old daughter, that girl who got pregnant, Ray Charles said her daddy got her pregnant. And her daddy was a preacher of a church.[00:52:08] Every, every one of these people who crossed over from, from, from secular music, I'm sorry from gospel over the cycler has been a curse. Go look at Whitney Houston. Remember the preacher's wife go, you better stop playing with me.[00:52:23] There's a curse on gospel music. [00:52:27] De'Vannon: I believe in you and me have a lead. We whom be love internally and I'm happy to go listen to the whole soundtrack. [00:52:38] Crumb: Hold on. Only one. I could have a reach me was the sign of a preacher, man. Y'all better stop. You better stop playing with the Lord. [00:52:48] De'Vannon: Now you think maybe that song was about her experience possible?[00:52:54] Crumb: Well, you know, Sam, she was a PK and you know what the PK is, right? [00:52:58] De'Vannon: Peak head. [00:53:00] I know what a cluck had is a chicken head, [00:53:03] Crumb: a preacher's kid. Those are the worst ones. TK. Okay. Yeah, she was a preacher's kid. Uh, uh, Sam cooks was a preacher's kid. These preacher's children. They be off the chain brother. We got to talk about it.[00:53:15] We'd have to talk about it. [00:53:19] De'Vannon: And, uh, okay. Thank you for explaining that. Uh, before we move on into the lesbians, um, I want to clarify, so like, when I felt like when you were talking about like, like God and the devil earlier, what I was hearing is how, like a lot of people, uh, you were saying, you don't miss the scarily, you believe on the devil or one, and then we have both of those inside of us.[00:53:40] So what that brought to mind for me is like how a lot of new age thinking believes we contain this entity with, within us. You know, a lot of people will say that, what you're saying is, don't forget, you have like a dark side too, you know? And so we both have both light and dark. It sounds like you're saying some [00:54:00] people call it God, some people call it, call it the devil, but really we all have it both inside of us.[00:54:07] Crumb: And remember, remember the plot twist from star wars. Which one, Luke, I am your father.[00:54:26] bad guy. Everybody hates you. Can I be, how can you be a part of me? I'm a party. That's the most famous,[00:54:39] De'Vannon: it's pretty twisty. It is pretty twisty.[00:54:45] Let, let me switch, switch gears again. And now we're gonna, we're gonna finally talk about the, uh, the, the good old lesbians here. And so, so give us like your, [00:55:00] your, your run down here. And, uh, basically this is talking about a different perspective on exactly. You know where lesbians come from, some different myths surrounding that.[00:55:14] And, but please start with a breakdown of what etymology is.[00:55:23] Crumb: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And thank you. [00:55:28] De'Vannon: You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome [00:55:32] Crumb: to get the right answer. You have to ask the right question. A lot of times I try to create context. I try to set the family up so that it doesn't get taken the wrong way. I appreciate your brother. I respect you.[00:55:47] Um, it's an honor to work with you. I don't have a, uh, issue with, uh, the way you choose to live your life. I love your energy. Um, I hope that we can work together again in the [00:56:00] future, and that I've impressed you a little bit today. Honestly, that's what I see. So now that I've put, you know, I've been vulnerable I've, I've made myself vulnerable and exposed you.[00:56:09] How I truly feel, um, you know, the naked truth, uh, no pun intended. Um, oh my God. Chrome is naked in front of another man. Yeah. Technically so bare with me. I haven't [00:56:18] De'Vannon: done at least from my perspective, my end. Right. [00:56:23] Crumb: Nothing new to you. All right. I'm preaching to the choir. No pun intended. So now, you know, with that said, um, I, uh, I, I am big on etymology.[00:56:33] Etymology is the origin of words. Um, this isn't a slight to anybody. It's just fun learning the origins. So, um, I had a chance to, um, because with so many words, I don't know where to start. So, um, certain words are popular. People will tell you, um, don't say good morning, because morning is something you do at a funeral or, or it's not really good to say.[00:56:57] Someone is nice because [00:57:00] nice technically means stupid. Um, Actually I have to admit brother, you're pretty sharp. You have good grammar when I called you. Cause before we got on a zoom, we called each other. I said, brother, how are you? You said I'm well, I know to the average person, that doesn't mean anything, but that's good grammar brother with actual, you know, actually that's the King's English.[00:57:23] You speak the King's English. You're not a commoner. You speak like royalty. And I liked that. I'm a nerd. Bear with me. I, those types of things like, oh, wow, okay. You know, I'm talking to royalty. Cause he carries himself. He talks like that. I digress. So now, um, when we're dealing with etymology, I don't even know where to start.[00:57:41] So somebody had, uh, you know, giving me a word to look up and it was lesbian. And when I looked the word up, it sent me down a rabbit hole and it just blew my mind. And it was so fun learning about it that, uh, I just wanted to share with the family. So I did a video [00:58:00] and I disguise. As about lesbians, but smart people will recognize the video was about etymology.[00:58:08] It was about history. It just had a lesbian twist on it. Um, you know, some of us like our liquor straight weed, you got to put a little ice in there, a little, put a little splash of ginger rail up there. You know, I don't want to be such a Savage. Uh, so, you know, um, but because, because, um, and, and, and forgive me for making a short story long when I was in schools, learning was boring, bro.[00:58:31] I was bored. And one thing you said about me in the beginning, you said the brother has character. He has. He's going to make learning interesting. He's going to make learning. Cool. And that's all I seek to do. It's not about, uh, jumping on lesbians. It honestly has nothing to do with that, but let's make it about that.[00:58:48] So if we look at the etymology and that's really the point, but if we look at the etymology of the word lesbian, originally, the word lesbian was referring to women on a, on an island in [00:59:00] ancient Greece called Lesbos. Now, when we dealing with homosexuality and ancient Greece, patriarchaly that's I just made that up.[00:59:10] I'm sure. Patriarchy quickly. We only just talk about the. Oh, well, this is what the men were doing. This is what the men were doing and the women's still get out shadowed. You know, I know it's not a competition, but the men, uh, within the, uh, uh, the alphabet mafia are out shining the women. So I decided with just being quirky as I am in my own special way, just to give the women some, some attention.[00:59:34] So if we go to look historically at the island of Lesbos, which was a, uh, Grecian island, there was a Greek island, um, where there was a lot of women there. I thought based on common culture, based on common culture, gay means homosexual, no disrespect. Gaming's happy based off common culture. The rainbow represents, uh, a symbol of gay [01:00:00] pride.[01:00:01] It does, however, comma, the rainbow is really just the rainbow. It is what it is because of culture. It means something else. Um, Uh, bill Cosby, just joking around bill Cosby represents slipping somebody and Mickey that's just because of common culture for people like you and me. Bill Cosby was the number one.[01:00:22] Dad. When we grew up in our generation, bill Cosby was famous for being a dad in this generation. Bill Cosby is famous for slipping women to Mickey, or maybe he's exonerated. I'm not really sure of the situation. Bear with me. I apologize if I've misspoken. I digress. When we look at the island of Lesbos, um, it doesn't fit popular current culture to fit what we think of a Lesbos as a, which I personally believe lesbian.[01:00:48] Wasn't a derogatory term. If you call a woman a lesbian, that's a little more respect on her name. If you call her a lesbian, that's more lower vibrational, I guess it depends on the person of how they taken it. That's how I was [01:01:00] told. Oh, she's a lesbian that's negative. Anyway. So now the island of Lesbos was not derogatory.[01:01:05] It had nothing to do with lesbians. If you look at the original definition, Definitions change origins. Don't if you look at the original definition of the word Lesbos, it was what we call today. A thought she knew how to please a man. And for me it was like, cause it was just weird, you know, just certain words.[01:01:27] I'm like, oh, I didn't know. It really meant that. And it was just one of those moments. So, um, you know, just passing the mic just to kind of share that. What were your thoughts based off that? I'm sorry. I know you're interviewing me, please. Forgive me. [01:01:39] De'Vannon: We have free reign here to do whatever we damn well, please.[01:01:46] Well, I love, I love, um, and I know etymology, um, as you, as you, as you're saying, as you said, was the, uh, primary theme of the video, [01:02:00] uh, lesbian as a. As a smart, attractive topic to, you know, it has to be interesting. So you've made it interesting. And then the study of in the way you went through it teaches people perhaps how to do that sort of research themselves.[01:02:14] So that's why I want to make a big deal out of, uh, the lesbian aspect of it. But then, you know, a lot of listeners identify that way and you may, may wish to know more about, you know, their backgrounds and everything like that. So let's see. I was curious about the magalogue you talked a lot about the magalogue in the video, and then after that, we're going to talk about the whole like pedophile pet RST thing going on, uh, excuse me to in ancient Greece, but let's, let's talk about the magalogs first.[01:02:57] Um, The different meanings [01:03:00] there and those sex crazy men. [01:03:02] Crumb: I'm so glad you S you know, I wasn't sure where you're going to go next. You've got free Wayne rain. I'm just following. And in my mind, I was going to what we call cut your wisdom. We inter interrupt and, oh, I don't want to cut your wisdom, but let me talk about, I really meant to mention, and I was going to bring up Magaluf next.[01:03:20] So when you said it, I'm like, you know, that was one of the big things in the video. So, um, when we talk about, and this is what I really stress to our people for me, my success on the internet has really been best described as revenge of the nerds. I was, I was very much, I did not fit in when I was younger.[01:03:43] Um, I still don't fit in the most thing. Funniest thing somebody had ever said it was my friend's mom. And, uh, my name is William. She was like, William you're very, and it was an awkward pause. Your. She's trying to figure out what to say to me. And I'm just smiling. I was a kid like, [01:04:00] eh, and she says, peculiar, fuck it.[01:04:04] I'll take it a weird off kilter, slightly retarded. Hey, peculiar works. I'll take that one. So you could have said a slew of any words and they would have probably all stuck, but nonetheless, yeah. Um, you know, my perspective, my way of thinking, my, my understanding and just, uh, me being that person just, you know, I'm not that person.[01:04:27] So now this is really revenge of the nerds I'm oh, wow. I'm cool. Now, you know, we're, we're reading. So I've really been pushing our people, black people in particular, uh, you know, to be a little more astute, to be able a little more couth, to be a little more refined. And, um, I don't want to take it in the wrong way because of.[01:04:48] Perpetuate homosexuality. But I do understand like even metro-sexual is a more refined gentlemen. Uh, you don't have to, people would say to [01:05:00] me, oh, you're very Metro. And I'm like, I don't know how to take that. Like, no, it's not a bad thing. It's, it's like, you know, I don't want you to think this new energy where these men are coming off.[01:05:09] It has to be, you know, but that is a sexual, uh, a homosexual men have tastes. I'm not promoting homosexuality, but we just have

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