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https://youtu.be/gS7aHfIiXjQ Preetha Pulusani, CEO of DeepTarget, is passionate about helping people realize their potential and leveraging technology to create meaningful business growth. After spending 25 years in corporate America and learning hard lessons from an early entrepreneurial failure, Preetha built DeepTarget into a bootstrapped fintech growth company that helps banks and credit unions acquire, engage, cross-sell, and retain account holders through advanced data analytics and intelligent marketing. In this conversation, Preetha shares the DeepTarget Bootstrap Framework, a leadership and innovation model built around five principles: Combine Pros with Fresh Graduates, Think Big but Start Small, Be Agile with a Flat Structure, Fail Quickly, and Keep a Tight Customer Feedback Loop. She explains how blending experienced professionals with emerging talent creates powerful teams, why rapid experimentation outperforms large-scale product launches, and how customer feedback should guide innovation. Preetha also discusses using data to drive growth, selling outcomes instead of technology, and building a successful SaaS company without outside funding. — Pull 5 Levers to Bootstrap Your Firm with Preetha Pulusani Good day. Steve Preda here with the Management Blueprint, and my guest today is Preetha Pulusani, the CEO of DeepTarget, a company that helps hundreds of financial institutions increase loan demand, promote product adoption, and support intelligent marketing through advanced data mining and analytics. Preetha, welcome to the show. Thank you, Steve. Thank you for having me. Thank you for inviting me. I’m looking forward to it. Yeah. You have a very interesting business and very interesting profile, so I can’t wait to jump in. But let me ask you my favorite question. What is your personal ‘Why’, and how are you manifesting it in your business? I guess you could say that my personal ‘Why’ has evolved over several years. I spent 25 years in corporate America, and that was the best business education I could have ever received. My first failure as an entrepreneur, though, added to that significantly, and that was right before I started DeepTarget. Luckily, it was a quick failure, but that doesn’t mean it was not a difficult one. And in every way, the lessons learned have come in handy today. So I believe that I’m in my final chapter of my career, so I can speak from years of experience. And my personal ‘Why’ is—it’s always been about people for me. I’ve never believed in the lone genius. I believe that every person has some spark of genius in a different way. And I have always been inspired by pulling out that spark and weaving a tapestry of people.Share on X And that happened even in my job in corporate America, but it happens even more with my team today as an entrepreneur at DeepTarget. So it’s about empowering people to use that spark rather than focusing on something that they may not be as good at. It’s pulling out that strength and making it the collective strength of a solution, of how we serve customers, and of the business itself. Does that make sense? Oh, yeah. This is great. I love that. My experience is that nearly none of the companies I talk to—or basically none of them, literally none of them—capitalize on the maximum talent of their team. Because it’s impossible to maximize it completely, but you can work on it, and that is wonderful. Yeah. So do you have a process for how you do that? Is there a mental process? Is it just an awareness? Is it a curiosity? Is it a natural thing that you do, or do you actually have a way of doing this? So I have found that I think I read people. I think I’m intuitive in that way. And so I see myself as being the orchestrator of whatever it is, whether I’m working on today’s problem or whether I’m working on the big vision. I don’t know that it’s a process so much, but I have used it over and over again. It’s become a very natural thing for me. So you talk about the big vision. What is that big vision? So as a company, my focus is on making our clients successful. What that means is helping them grow their financial institutions.Share on X We work with credit unions and banks, and it’s all about growth. And we use innovation to leverage that growth for them. How do you acquire new account holders? How do you cross-sell to them? How do you communicate with them? How do you retain them? I’m a techie at heart, so it’s been about how do I leverage data? How do I leverage—today, of course—AI, kind of a combination of data and AI, to make sure that they are able to see the growth they need for their financial institutions? And that’s kind of become the mission that we have adopted for the company. Yeah. I noticed that on your website you have this map of, I think, seven or eight different ways that you’re driving adoption and contact with people and— It’s highly data-driven. It’s not wishy-washy. We’ve evolved from being a marketing company to a growth company. And when you take anything that’s data-driven into marketing, yeah, it’s something that people like to do. But what we like to do is use the technology to get to the human—to get to the individual. So we are helping our credit unions and banks reach individuals, understand each account holder, and understand what their financial needs are. And the only way you can do that at scale is by using technology and data. So we’ve built a platform that enables them to do that. That’s why the front end is all data, right? We can accept as much data as they want to give us so that we can do the right things to help them grow and engage their account holders. Yeah. I like that you’re very techy, as you say—techy and data-driven. So I wonder, what is your mental model when you think about the end customers of your financial institution clients? What’s your mental model for how you innovate this process? So what are the major elements? If you had to synthesize it down to maybe three to five elements—your levers that you can pull—what are those? Great question. So I’m going to start with the people because, for me, everything revolves around people. What I’ve been able to do is combine very seasoned pros with fresh graduates from local universities, and that has been a potent combination. Okay? That’s number one. Whether I’m talking about development, customer success, or sales, that’s been the combination that has worked for me. And as a bootstrapper, that has also helped me financially. You have a very seasoned pro that I’ve worked with for years, and you know exactly what their strengths are. And then you put some fresh graduates under them. I’m telling you, there’s nothing better. That combination is second to none. The second thing is, I believe in thinking big, but starting small and scaling quickly. I learned that over time. There was a time when we used to have the big-bang theory of creating products.Share on X We have moved so far away from that. So think big, start small, and be agile. And as a small company, that’s a big advantage for me. We have a very flat structure. And so we’re able to have the agility we need to move markets, frankly. If you’re going to fail, fail quickly. Have a tight customer feedback loop. And if something isn’t going to work for your customer, just abandon it. Abandon it quickly. I can’t say, in all honesty, that I’ve done that every time, but it’s always on my mind: “Should we really even pursue this?” I know we’ve had projects that we thought would be very successful, but they weren’t. But when you’ve only made a small investment, it’s easier to set it aside. “Okay, it’s not working. This is not what we need to do. Let’s move on.” Yeah, I love that. Can you give an example where you invested in a process and really believed in it, and it turned out not to work, and then you had to pivot from it? So the way we help banks and credit unions engage and cross-sell to their account holders is primarily through digital banking. We put up very personalized offers using data in the digital banking environment and use that real estate very effectively. It works like a charm. That’s what we do today. We did get a little sidetracked by expanding that into email, and we didn’t see the kind of growth we expected. So we tried to understand that. We did kind of an autopsy. And the difference is that when you log into digital banking, you’re being served something. The difference with email is that you’re pushing something out. It has its uses, for sure, but the particular aspect of what we had done in the product didn’t take off like we expected. So we just said, “Okay, let’s do more of what we can do within the digital banking environment.” But that works for farming existing customers of the banks, right? Do you also help banks acquire new customers? Yes. And that’s where email works, by the way. And so does direct mail, and so do digital ads. When you’re cross-selling to existing account holders, you have a lot of information about them. For example, if they rent a home, you would never give them a HELOC offer, right? But on the other hand, what we’re doing for new account acquisition is still using data. We’re looking at who the most profitable customers are that your credit union or bank has, and using that as the model to find more likely customers within a particular radius of their branches. So we are still using data, but in a different way and using different channels to reach them versus digital banking. That’s fascinating. So what drives growth in your business? Well, if you had asked me that question 10 years ago, I would have said innovation drives growth. But what we have found and learned over time is that innovation is an engine.Share on X Innovation, in a way, actually causes friction because when you innovate, you’re creating something new. So you first have to go out and educate the market. You have to make them understand that there’s a new way of doing things, and not everybody is open to change. So if I go talk to a marketing professional and say, “Hey, here’s a new way of doing things. We’re using data.” I put myself in the place of that marketing person who is already constrained by bandwidth, who is already doing so many things, saying, “You’re bringing another new tool for me to learn and use? For what purpose?” While innovation is the engine, what we have learned is not to focus on the innovation, but to focus on the impact. And we do that by really working hard to get into the C-suite. So we are talking to the CEO, the COO, the Chief Digital Officer, or the Chief Technology Officer of these banks and credit unions, helping them understand the outcomes. What is it we do? We acquire new customers. We cross-sell to existing customers. We help you retain them. I receive these direct-mail solicitations from mega banks like Chase and Wells Fargo. They’re paying me $900, $1,500 to open a checking account. It’s expensive to acquire new accounts. That’s just an example, right? So we are helping you grow through new account acquisition, but we also have a whole playbook for how you retain those new accounts that you acquire. So when you talk at the C-suite level, all of a sudden they’re not seeing a tool. What they’re seeing is an outcome. “How soon can we see results?” is the question we get asked. So we grow through a different way of selling what we do to these institutions. So people don’t care how you achieve the result. They just want you to talk about the result? Exactly. Especially the CEO. I mean, they don’t really care. They do care about things like data privacy, and we’ve addressed all of that. We’ve been doing this business for so long that data security is table stakes. But they care less about how you do it and more about why. So we have to talk to the individuals who care about the why rather than the how, although the how plays such a big part in building a business, right? But that’s what we focus on. That’s behind the wall. That’s your problem, basically. That’s right. That’s the secret sauce. We used to take great pains to explain the secret sauce at one point in time, but not anymore. That’s interesting. So why do they listen to you? I mean, why do they believe that you can get these results? Do you show them testimonials, or how do you prove it? We have over 200 customers now—customer contracts. It’s actually closer to 300. So we have a lot of testimonials and references that we can show them. We also let them know that there are barriers to using software like ours, such as, “Do I need to have somebody operate the software?” No, because part of what we offer is a managed service. We will operate the software for you using your branding and everything else that you have. So we’ve kind of removed all of the barriers. The biggest barrier today is creating awareness in the broader market, because this is a huge market. And on my bootstrapping budget, I have to make sure people know that such a solution exists. What we find is that once we reach the decision-maker, it’s a fairly straightforward sale. I would say that if I’m constrained by anything when it comes to growth, it’s because I’m a bootstrapper. I watch every penny carefully, and I have built the company funded entirely by revenue. And one of these days that’s not going to be enough. But so far, so good. Yeah. Okay. So basically you create broader awareness of your products. You have all these testimonials and references. When you get in front of these decision-makers, you talk about the outcome and show them the results you can get. And we have direct sales, right? I mean, we do call on, we have a couple of people. All they do is work the phones, emails, and LinkedIn to get us meetings in front of the right people. You know, also, Steve, in this day and age of everything digital, what we have found with banks and credit unions is that first important meeting with the CEO—we’re finding that doing it in person makes a huge difference. So that’s another thing that we do. That’s interesting. So does that limit you geographically? We’re having so much success with that model that it only helps us. More revenue means I can invest more in sales. So we are limited to the United States. We have customers on both coasts, a pretty good map of customers on both coasts, and in the Midwest. And there are some blank spaces, and we’re trying to address those blank spaces. So you actually have people fly all over the country to meet with CEOs? Yes. And it’s making a big difference. This is a change that we made not too far back. I would say maybe about 18 months ago or so, and it’s made a big difference for growth. That is so interesting because after the pandemic, a lot of companies kept doing video sales calls. As did we. As did we. As probably you did as well. But the assumption was that there’s no point in traveling. It’s an extra expense and doesn’t make a huge difference. But you’re saying it’s the opposite—that it does. Yes, it makes a huge difference. You’re talking to the CEO of a bank. Banks still have a more traditional generation of leaders. Even I didn’t believe it when I was first sold on this whole concept, but I’ve become a believer now. That meeting—the CEO not only is in the room with you, but brings in his or her key executives to talk to you. When you’ve made the trip all the way to Sacramento, they’re going to do that, right? So it’s made a difference. So there’s a reciprocity involved. They see that you’re making the trip. Okay, then we might as well put more into it. And it’s kind of a self-fulfilling process. And by the way, when you have more people in the room, you get more objections, but you’re able to address those in person. Yeah. Even if you have a video call with the CEO, if the CEO goes and talks to the CTO and brings up the objection, “You really need to worry about these guys and their data security,” we never hear about that. We just hear silence. We don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. So you get that opportunity to address all of that kind of in person. And I think it actually works out more cost-effectively, surprisingly. Yeah, as long as those are resulting in deals. Yes. So maybe that’s an inside thing, but I’m just wondering, what is the upside of something like that? If you convert one of the CEOs and they start using the system—maybe that’s a business secret—but what is the value of that conversion? Let’s say the 12-month value of that conversion that makes you want to do that trip. So let me give you an example. We sell annual subscriptions with five-year terms. That’s a big deal, right? And when we sell five-year terms, it can become very significant. So we price based on the asset size of the financial institution because that kind of determines how large they are, how many branches they have, and how many account holders they have. So let’s take an institution that’s, say, a billion dollars. I’m just going to give you some rough numbers, right? For a five-year contract, you’re talking about $300,000 or so. Okay. That makes sense. It’s definitely worth the trip. Yes, it’s worth the trip. Yeah. The other way to have that personal interaction, which we have found to be very effective, is conferences—focused conferences. Many of these banks and credit unions have state leagues, regional leagues, or certain technology-focused groups that meet. And those are kind of the best venues to do our prospecting. And then do you sponsor these conferences? Well, we do. We’re very selective, but we have booths, and in addition to that, we may do some other sponsorships. Yeah. Yeah. That’s great. So switching gears here, I’m really curious. What is something that you’re actively trying to figure out in your business? So if you had a magic wand and you could wave it, what would you want to fix in the next 12 months? I’ve kind of told you that I’ve been a bootstrapper, and I’ve been a bootstrapper very intentionally. Because one of the things that I said I would do is that I wouldn’t be so stubborn as to never take any outside capital. But the thing that I wanted to figure out before taking external capital was what would give me a multiplier effect. So if I took a dollar in, how would I be able to multiply that? And I’m getting very close to figuring that out on the sales and marketing side. So if I had more dollars, and if I have a sales formula that I know works—that I’m confident works—then I should be able to take that formula, add those dollars, and simply add salespeople, right, to grow. Scale it up, yeah. So that’s kind of been the biggest issue I’ve had for the past, say, five years. But I would say that over the past 12 to 18 months, a lot of that has become clearer to me. And so I think I’m getting close to having that solved—to having that formula where I can say, “Okay, if I put in more dollars, I’m going to get X return.” Yeah. Some people call this the coin-operated marketing and sales system. You keep dropping the coin and— Yeah. Yeah. It’s taken me years to figure it out. I spent a lot of my early years at the company building a very robust technology platform because without that, everything else becomes secondary. And then I had this focus on, how do I get sales and marketing? And I’ve tried many things, and they haven’t necessarily worked, right? I’ve built up a customer base by slogging over time, but then you want that formula if you want to throw money at it. Yeah. And that’s where I think I’m getting closer to getting there. Yeah. And then marketing media is changing all the time. Different platforms come and go. Then you have different advertising formulas, and they burn out. So it’s actually difficult to stabilize it and make something that’s permanently coin-operated, so to speak. Yeah. And when we say everything is data-driven, it’s not just on the front end that everything is data-driven. We are able to tell the credit union or bank how many products we actually sold. What loans did you sell? How many auto loans? How many mortgages? How many HELOCs? How many credit cards? How many deposit accounts did you open each month that were influenced by our campaigns? We’re able to go back and tell them that. And what are the new balances you generated as a result of that? So it’s not about impressions and clicks. On the back end, we actually give them very deep data analytics so they can see, “This is the revenue I generated last month, and these are the new balances I generated last month.” And so that makes a difference, too. Yeah. I saw on your website that many customers get a 500% ROI on their investment. Yeah. Which only says that I’m charging them too little. Yeah. Yeah. No, but I mean, if you look at the balances and how they measure, we’re almost afraid to put the actual numbers out there. But we show them a growth grid that shows, month by month, here’s what you made using these campaigns. We can even show them what happens when they turn off the campaigns and what the impact is. So in terms of bootstrapping, is that a strategy? Let’s say you figure out your scalable sales formula. Would you then go raise money, or would you still want to bootstrap? If the revenue that I’m generating can be used toward growth, I won’t have to go raise money. But I won’t be so stubborn and silly that I wouldn’t take outside capital. I get calls all the time from investment bankers and capital firms. In fact, I was talking to one just yesterday, and I said, “I’m probably getting a bit closer to being open to capital. Give me another six months. By the end of the year, I should know.” So yes, I would raise money if I had that sales formula, if I knew for sure. And I think part of this, Steve, is because I talked about my first failure as an entrepreneur. It was a very quick failure, but it was a hard one because I had taken money from friends and family, and it was used up, and they didn’t get much in return. When I had to shut down that company, I actually gave them shares in this company. I guess I got a bit burned, so I’m more resistant to taking outside capital until I’ve figured out what the solution is. But I think I’m getting very close. You get to a point where it’s silly not to take capital. Yeah, because someone might copy it. You figure out a formula, and someone might copy it. Then they put more money behind it, they dominate the market, and you lose. Yeah. So that’s the only concern. Yeah. Yeah. If there are listeners who hear this and say, “Wow, I’d like to learn more because I’m involved with a financial institution, and we need to improve our sales, get more customers, and upsell more customers,” where can they find out more, and how can they reach you? So our website has, I think, a wealth of information. So certainly they can go to our website just to learn more about the solution. They can contact us at success@deeptarget.com. That’s probably the easiest way to get a deeper dive into what we do and have that one-on-one meeting. And I think that’s the best way to learn more. Whether you’re interested in going forward or not, that’s the best way to learn. Yeah. Okay. Well, definitely. I checked out the website, and it’s pretty informative. You get good visuals of what Preetha’s team is doing, and it’s pretty complex, I would say. There’s a lot of nuance to it, so I found it fascinating. So definitely check out deeptarget.com if you’d like to learn more. Preetha is also on LinkedIn, and you can email them at success@deeptarget.com. Any famous last words for the audience? Something that would help an entrepreneur who wants to bootstrap their business? What would you recommend they do? I think starting a business is no easy feat, and I don’t believe in overnight success. It’s a journey. It’s been one of the most inspiring and interesting journeys, and probably the greatest learning journey, that I’ve been through. So I think you shouldn’t focus just on the end result or overnight success. Instead, come for the journey. Yeah. You have to love the journey in order to reach the destination, right? It’s tough, right? Yeah. It can be tough at times, but then you reach a point where it’s just the best thing. Yeah. Well, that’s great inspiration for the founders listening to this. And if you enjoyed the podcast, then definitely follow us on LinkedIn, subscribe on YouTube, and give us a review on Apple Podcasts. And Preetha, thanks for coming. That was an eye-opening discussion. I don’t recall having many bootstrapper tech companies on the show, so this is definitely a new element for us and a really good perspective. So thanks for coming, and thank you for listening. Important Links: Preetha's LinkedIn Preetha's website Preetha's email: success@deeptarget.com
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In this episode of Moolala: Money Made Simple, host Bruce Sellery tackles three pressing issues facing Canadians today. Organizational psychologist Dr. Liane Davey introduces the concept of "thought load" , an invisible tax on your performance and presence driven by rising cognitive demands, emotional triggers, and depleted energy reserves. Liane shares practical strategies to identify your overwhelm style and reclaim your focus. Then, Ron Butler, principal broker at Butler Mortgage and host of the Angry Mortgage Podcast, breaks down the pros and cons of home equity lines of credit (HELOCs), explaining how they work, when they make sense, and the critical difference between a mortgage and a demand loan. Finally, Cherolle Prince, Director of Fraud and Identity Management at Equifax Canada, reveals why first-party fraud, which is when individuals misrepresent their own financial information to qualify for credit, is surging at over 30% year over year, and what lenders and AI tools are doing to fight back. To find out more about the guests check out: Dr. Liane Davey: lianedavey.com | LinkedIn | YouTube | Instagram | Facebook | X Ron Butler: butlermortgage.ca | X | Instagram | Facebook Cherolle Prince: LinkedIn(Cherolle) | X | Facebook | Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn(Equifax) Bruce Sellery is a personal finance expert and best-selling author. As the founder of Moolala and the CEO of Credit Canada, Bruce is on a mission to help you get a better handle on your money so you can live the life you want. High energy & low B.S., this is Moolala: Money Made Simple. Find Bruce Sellery at Moolala.ca | X | Facebook | LinkedIn
I sit down with Velocity Banking Expert, Anthony Rushing, to discuss using 1st lien HELOCs to pay off debt. Anthony answers the questions of when this concept does and doesn't make sense, and responds to the most common objections against the strategy.Watch the Interview on Youtube for Visuals -https://youtu.be/JIdrn74opF4Want to See If Whole Life Insurance Can Improve Your Financial Plan? Schedule Your Clarity Call Here: https://bttr.ly/bw-yt-aa-clarityWant Us To Review Your Permanent Life Insurance Policy? Click Here: https://bttr.ly/yt-policy-reviewWant Free Whole Life Insurance Resources & Education? Go Here: https://bttr.ly/yt-bw-vaultLearn More About BetterWealth: https://betterwealth.comChapters:00:00 - Interview Teaser01:30 - Disclaimer02:20 - Mechanics of First-Lien HELOCs*First-Lien Position*Interest Calculation*Rate Types*Bank Retention Barrier to Entry13:53 - First-Lien vs. Second-Lien HELOCs16:12 - Velocity Banking Concepts*Line of Credits*HELOC as a Checking Account*Positive Cash Flow31:13 - Behavioral Advantages and Motivational Theory*Liquidity and Control *Motivational Theory*Automation44:40 - Misconceptions and Complexities*Simple Interest *Math vs. Reality01:27:36 - Risks and Contractual Structure*Draw Period (Open-ended)*Repayment Period (Closed-ended)01:49:52 - Who is the First-Lien HELOC For?*The Debt-Motivated*Investor-MindedDISCLAIMER: https://bttr.ly/aapolicy*This video is for entertainment purposes only and is not financial or legal advice. Financial Advice Disclaimer: All content on this channel is for education, discussion, and illustrative purposes only and should not be construed as professional financial advice or recommendation. Should you need such advice, consult a licensed financial or tax advisor. No guarantee is given regarding the accuracy of the information on this channel. Neither host nor guests can be held responsible for any direct or incidental loss incurred by applying any of the information offered.
I sit down with Zach Oehlman, a former velocity banking and 1st lien HELOC advocate turned whistleblower—who's now calling out major figures like Michael Lush and the Kwak Brothers. After years as a top affiliate with Renatus, Zach breaks down the flawed math behind velocity banking, explains why the strategy doesn't outperform simply paying down your mortgage, and shares details of his lawsuit against Renatus. If you've heard claims of paying off your home in a few years using HELOC “chunking,” this is a direct, numbers-driven breakdown—and an open challenge to anyone defending the strategy.Watch the Interview on Youtube for Visuals - https://youtu.be/OJcLugBokeEWant Us To Review Your Permanent Life Insurance Policy? Click Here: https://bttr.ly/yt-policy-reviewBuy Your Tickets to the Life Insurance Summit! Click Here: https://betterwealth.com/summitLearn More About BetterWealth: https://betterwealth.comChapters:00:00 - Interview Teaser 01:36 - Guest Introduction, Velocity Banking, Lines of Credit 04:24 - The Legal Battle with Renatus *12-Year History with Renatus *Why is he suing the company? 11:40 - Attempts at Dialogue and Professional Audits 18:51 - What is Renatus and What Do They Sell? 24:57 - Understanding the Velocity Banking Pitch 27:31 - Debunking "Amortized Interest" Myths 29:22 - The Host's Own Correction on Amortization 33:59 - Flaw in Comparative Analysis 34:34 - Liquidity, HELOCs, and Second Leans 45:51 - Step-by-Step Math: Mortgage Acceleration Logic 47:23 - How to Pay Less in Interest? 48:02 - How to Pay Off $100k in 3 Years 48:45 - Correct Analysis 57:17 - Mortgage Calculator 01:02:17 - Goal of the Lawsuit 01:10:12 - Final ThoughtsDISCLAIMER: https://bttr.ly/aapolicy*This video is for entertainment purposes only and is not financial or legal advice. Financial Advice Disclaimer: All content on this channel is for education, discussion, and illustrative purposes only and should not be construed as professional financial advice or recommendation. Should you need such advice, consult a licensed financial or tax advisor. No guarantee is given regarding the accuracy of the information on this channel. Neither host nor guests can be held responsible for any direct or incidental loss incurred by applying any of the information offered.
William Parmer shares how education, faith, family support, and bold action helped him move from law enforcement into rental investing, passive income, and the deeper pursuit of buying back his time.See article: https://www.unitedstatesrealestateinvestor.com/create-remarkable-courage-to-buy-back-your-time-with-william-parmer/(00:00) - Introduction to The REI Agent Podcast and William Parmer(00:24) - William's Welcome and Goal to Inspire Investors(00:34) - From Veteran and Law Enforcement Officer to Real Estate Investor(00:46) - COVID Patrol Shifts, Podcast Discovery, and Learning Through Master Passive Income(03:15) - How Real Estate Education Changed William's View of the Paycheck Path(03:56) - Coaching, Cold Feet, and Closing the First Out-of-State Rental(05:56) - William's Family Life and Being a Husband and Father of Four Girls(06:41) - The Kitchen Table Money Conversation With His Wife(08:12) - Choosing Between Single-Family Rentals, Short-Term Rentals, and Mobile Home Parks(08:24) - Why Mobile Home Parks Are More Complex Than Traditional Rentals(10:26) - Mobile Home Parks, Affordability, and Risk Compared With Luxury Rentals(11:16) - Short-Term Rental Risk and Using Long-Term Rental Numbers as the Backup Plan(12:33) - The ABC Plan for Short-Term, Mid-Term, and Long-Term Rental Exits(13:08) - Mid-Term Rentals, Furnished Finder, and Less Management(13:50) - Market Differences in Vacation Rentals, Mid-Term Rentals, and Co-Living(15:12) - Finding Cash-Flowing Long-Term Rentals in Tougher Interest Rate Markets(16:17) - Factoring Property Management Into the Numbers From Day One(17:34) - Researching Appreciation, Local Industries, and Midwest Market Myths(18:21) - William's Zillow and AI Process for Analyzing Out-of-State Markets(21:51) - Using Property Managers for Virtual Market Feedback(22:28) - How to Ask Property Managers About Specific Rental Properties(23:42) - Working With Agents and Property Managers Before Making Offers(24:57) - The Value of Boots-on-Ground Professionals in Repeat Markets(26:29) - Building a Vendor Rolodex Through Local Banks, Managers, and Referrals(27:47) - The Biggest Mistake New Investors Make(28:01) - Analysis Paralysis and Why New Investors Chase Perfect Numbers(29:11) - Why Most Beginner Mistakes Are Not as Catastrophic as They Feel(30:41) - Buying Below Market Value and Focusing on Cash Flow(31:32) - The Hidden Expenses Beginners Forget in Cash-Flow Calculations(32:15) - Why William Recommends Reaching at Least 10 Rentals(33:40) - Mattias's Line in the Sand Against DIY Repairs(35:46) - Local Bank Relationships, ARV Lending, and Flexible Financing(36:37) - How Rental Housing Serves People Who Do Not Want to Own(37:57) - Using Equity, Refinances, and HELOCs to Grow(38:43) - The Golden Nugget: Start With Education(38:58) - Podcasts, Notes, AI Explanations, Books, Coaching, and Meetups(41:11) - Foundational Books for Investors(41:20) - Rich Dad Poor Dad, Cashflow Quadrant, Benjamin Hardy, and Mindset Books(42:24) - Where to Find William Parmer and Breakthrough InvestorContact William Parmerhttps://masterpassiveincome.com/coach/william-parmerhttps://www.facebook.com/william.parmer.2025/https://www.instagram.com/william.c.parmer/https://www.linkedin.com/in/william-cary-parmer-8480382a4/William Parmer's story is a powerful reminder that financial freedom does not begin with perfect confidence. It begins with education, action, and the courage to buy back your time. Keep learning, keep building, and keep moving toward a life that gives your family more options. For more inspiring investor conversations, visit https://reiagent.comIs success destroying your peace? Most pros grind until they break. Download The Investor's Life Balance Sheet: A Holistic Wealth Audit to see if you are building a legacy or heading for burnout. Presented by The REI Agent Podcast & United States Real Estate Investor® https://sendfox.com/lp/m4jrl
On this episode of The Real Wealth Show, Kathy Fettke sits down with mortgage expert Caeli Ridge for a 2026 lending update built for real estate investors. They break down today's investor mortgage rates, HELOCs, cash-out refinances, DSCR loans, paying points, and why experienced investors are still buying in today's market. If you're waiting for rates to drop or sitting on equity, this episode will help you think like an investor—and do the math.
In today's episode, we look at figures associated with Hispanic lending in America. Plus, Robbie sits down with Figure's Anthony Stratis (for a discussion on the home equity lending space) and Verus' Dane Smith (for a discussion on innovative loan products). And we close by examining what it would take for oil prices to return to normal levels.Welcome to The Chrisman Commentary, your go-to daily mortgage news podcast, where industry insights meet expert analysis. Hosted by Robbie Chrisman, this podcast delivers the latest updates on mortgage rates, capital markets, and the forces shaping the housing finance landscape. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just looking to stay informed, you'll get clear, concise breakdowns of market trends and economic shifts that impact the mortgage world.Thank you to FirstClose, which provides fintech solutions to HELOC and mortgage lenders nationwide. Their home equity lending platform accelerates the home equity lending process, reducing application to closing times from 45 days to less than ten.
In this episode of Your Real Estate Life, Mortgage Loan Originator Michael Harris breaks down what's really driving today's housing market—from interest rate expectations and Federal Reserve leadership shifts to practical strategies buyers and homeowners can use right now. With mortgage rates still influenced by inflation data, Fed policy tone, and bond market reactions, understanding the “why” behind the numbers is more important than trying to time the market. You'll hear a clear, real-world breakdown of how potential Federal Reserve direction could impact mortgage rates, what the latest economic data means for borrowers, and why strategy not timing is the key to winning in today's market. Michael also explores powerful lending and financial tools including VantageScore vs. FICO considerations, Non-QM lending options for self-employed borrowers, home equity strategies (HELOCs, cash-out refinances, and bridge loans), and a deep dive into mortgage recasting as an often-overlooked way to reduce payments without refinancing. This episode is designed to help buyers, homeowners, and investors move from uncertainty to clarity so they can make informed decisions with confidence in a shifting market. Key Topics Covered: • Mortgage rate outlook & Federal Reserve impact • Inflation, jobs data & economic calendar breakdown • Buyer strategy in a higher-for-longer rate environment • VantageScore vs. mortgage underwriting reality • Non-QM loans for self-employed & investors • HELOC vs. cash-out refinance vs. bridge loans • Mortgage recasting strategy explained • Equity utilization & cash flow optimization Have questions about your situation? Call 888-543-3980 Learn more at UnitedForLoans.com or YourRealEstateLife.com Subscribe for weekly real estate and mortgage strategy insights
A Home Equity Line of Credit can be an extremely useful tool to fund a variety of things in life. If you own a home, tapping into your home's equity for projects, plans and expenses can be a smart way to cover costs. Keep listening for some helpful ways to use a home equity line of credit. Links: Learn more about Triangle's HELOC program Check out TCU University for financial education tips and resources! Follow us on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter! Learn more about Triangle Credit Union Transcript: Welcome to Money Tip Tuesday from the Making Money Personal podcast. Your home isn't just where life happens—it can also be one of your most powerful financial tools. A Home Equity Line of Credit (HELOC) lets you tap into the value you've already built, giving you flexible access to cash when you need it most. But too often, homeowners overlook just how strategic a HELOC can be when used thoughtfully. From upgrading your living space to unlocking new opportunities, the right move can turn your home's equity into long-term gains. Here are four fantastic, smart, and practical ways to put a HELOC to work—and make your home work harder for you. Home repairs and renovations. Using a HELOC for home repairs or renovations allows you to reinvest directly into the asset that's generating the equity in the first place—your home. Whether you're updating a kitchen, replacing a roof, or adding a home office, these projects can improve both daily comfort and long-term property value. A HELOC is especially appealing because it typically offers lower interest rates than credit cards or personal loans, and you only borrow what you need as expenses arise. The flexibility of a revolving credit line also makes it easier to manage phased renovations or unexpected repair costs. Another great use of a HELOC is to fund education. Education is an investment that can pay dividends for decades, and a HELOC can be a cost-effective way to cover tuition and related expenses. Compared to private student loans, HELOCs often offer lower interest rates and more flexible repayment options. Homeowners may use a HELOC to fund a child's college education, graduate school, or career-advancing certifications. The ability to draw funds as needed works well with semester-based tuition schedules. For families seeking an alternative to high-interest education loans, a HELOC provides flexibility without locking into rigid terms. A third great use is for important life events or major purchases. Life's biggest moments—such as weddings, medical expenses, starting a business, or purchasing a recreational vehicle—often come with substantial costs. A HELOC provides access to funds when timing matters, without requiring you to drain savings or sell investments. Because it's a revolving line of credit, you can borrow exactly what you need and repay it over time. Many homeowners choose HELOCs for major purchases due to lower interest rates compared to credit cards. This approach offers a practical way to cover large expenses while maintaining financial flexibility. A fourth great use is to use it for debt consolidation. A HELOC can be a powerful tool for simplifying and lowering high-interest debt. By consolidating credit cards, personal loans, or medical bills into one lower-interest payment, homeowners can potentially save thousands in interest over time. Managing a single monthly payment also makes budgeting easier and more predictable. Since HELOC rates are usually much lower than unsecured debt, more of each payment goes toward reducing the principal balance. For those feeling overwhelmed by multiple debts, a HELOC can provide a clear path toward financial breathing room—when used responsibly. A HELOC isn't just about access to extra cash—it's about flexibility, opportunity, and smart financial planning. Whether you're reinvesting in your home, investing in education, managing life's major expenses, or regaining control of debt, the right use of a home's equity can create meaningful long-term benefits. As with any financial decision, careful planning and disciplined repayment are key but when used wisely, a HELOC can help turn the equity you've built into a powerful resource for your next chapter. If there are any other tips or topics you would like us to cover, let us know at tcupodcast@trianglecu.org. Like and follow our Making Money Personal FB and IG page and look for our sponsor, Triangle Credit Union on social media to share your thoughts. Thanks for listening to today's Money Tip Tuesday and check out our other tips and episodes on the Making Money Personal podcast.
What if passive income is not about chasing the latest flashy strategy, but about getting clear on what you actually want, understanding the risks, and choosing investments that fit your life?In this episode of Grow Your Business & Grow Your Wealth, Gary Heldt talks with Ryan Gibson, President and Chief Investment Officer of Spartan Investment Group. Ryan shares how his journey from airline pilot to real estate investor led him to build a firm that helps investors participate in self-storage without taking on the day-to-day burden of ownership. The conversation covers common investor mistakes, how self-storage really works, where investment capital can come from, and why clarity matters more than hype when building long-term wealth.→ Ryan explains why many high-income earners jump into real estate before deciding whether they actually want an active business or a passive investment.→ He breaks down several ways investors may fund real estate opportunities, including cash, 401(k) loans, leveraged stock accounts, HELOCs, life insurance strategies, and self-directed IRAs.→ Gary and Ryan discuss the difference between direct ownership in a real estate deal and investing through a REIT, especially when it comes to control, tax treatment, and understanding the actual asset.→ Ryan shares what Spartan looks for in self-storage opportunities, including supply and demand, visibility, density, future buyer interest, and rent growth potential.→ The episode also highlights why self-storage performs across changing economic conditions, driven by life events, business needs, downsizing, moving, and renovation. Ryan says about 70 percent of customers are driven by life transitions, while the other 30 percent are business users.→ Ryan closes with practical advice for high earners who make high income but may not be paying enough attention to what they actually keep after taxes, fees, and poor planning.Listen in for a grounded conversation on passive income, diversification, and why the right professional team can make all the difference.More about Ryan:Ryan Gibson | President & Chief Investment Officer Spartan Investment Group | 1633 Westlake Ave N. Suite 120, Seattle, WA 98109 C: 202.696.5112 Website | Invest in Our Values More about Gary:Visit Gary Heldt's website at https://www.sbadvisors.cc/Connect with Gary on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-d-heldt-jr/
In today's episode, we look at the calculus going through building contractors minds. Plus, Robbie sits down with WSFS Bank's Jeffrey Ruben for a discussion on how homeowners can strategically tap their equity while navigating today's rate environment, avoiding common renovation financing pitfalls, and understanding why many are calling this the “golden age” of HELOCs. And we close by examining the ways in which rates are impacting borrower psychology as we enter the traditionally robust spring home buying season.Welcome to The Chrisman Commentary, your go-to daily mortgage news podcast, where industry insights meet expert analysis. Hosted by Robbie Chrisman, this podcast delivers the latest updates on mortgage rates, capital markets, and the forces shaping the housing finance landscape. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just looking to stay informed, you'll get clear, concise breakdowns of market trends and economic shifts that impact the mortgage world.Thank you to Figure. Figure is shaking up the lending world with their five-day HELOC, offering borrower approvals in as little as five minutes and funding in five days. Figure has hundreds of partners in the Banking, Credit Union, Home Improvement, and of course, IMB space embedding their technology.
In this episode of the Get Out of Debt Guy Show, Steve Rhode, the old or original Get Out of Debt Guy, and Damon Day, the new Get Out of Debt Guy, cut through the noise and talk about what rising prices, shrinking credit access, and a shaky economy could mean for people already living on borrowed money.They cover why relying on available credit is dangerous, how banks can reduce credit lines with little warning, why HELOCs are not a guaranteed safety net, and what recent warnings from major companies may be signaling about debt, inflation, housing, and consumer pressure. They also dig into the ugly truth about timeshares, timeshare exit companies, debt settlement, and why waiting too long to act can make a bad situation much worse.This episode is a blunt, funny, real-world conversation about credit cards, emergency funds, cash flow problems, rising household costs, and how to protect yourself before your financial options disappear.Get more help, articles, and tools at https://getoutofdebt.orgTalk to Damon directly at https://damonday.com
Are you making money… or actually building wealth and keeping more of it? In this episode of Life Changing Money, Barbara breaks down why real estate is one of the most powerful wealth-building tools for business owners and how it can dramatically reduce your tax bill at the same time. If you're generating income but not strategically turning it into long-term wealth, this episode will shift how you think about money. Barbara walks through practical ways to leverage what you already have (your income, your home, and your equity) to start building a real estate portfolio. Tune in to hear: Why real estate is a “dual-purpose” asset (wealth + tax savings) How to turn your personal home into your first rental property Creative ways to use equity (HELOCs & leverage) to buy more properties The truth about spending vs. investing as a business owner Key tax deductions real estate investors should never miss How home office deductions apply to rental properties What the self-rental strategy is and how it can offset business income How cost segregation can create massive upfront tax savings Why your accountant might be costing you money (and what to do instead) Overlooked deductions like vehicles, mileage, and equipment The importance of actually understanding your numbers (not outsourcing blindly) How to scale wealth faster by combining business income + real estate
Send us Fan MailCredit card debt feels normal… until you run the numbers.In this episode, we break down the “money math” that determines whether you build wealth or stay stuck paying interest. From 22% APR and compounding debt to balance transfers, HELOCs, and paying off high-interest debt first, this is a practical conversation about how money actually works.We also touch on assets vs liabilities, investing, and how understanding your numbers changes everything.If you've ever felt lost when it comes to money, this one will hit.Subscribe, share, and let me know your biggest takeaway.Support the showLearn More at: www.Redefine-Fitness.com
Tune in as the team discusses: Why most struggles in land investing are mindset-driven, not tactical How “land therapy” helps sellers release emotional attachments to property Overcoming fear of talking to sellers by using blind offers with built-in pricing Common beginner challenges like hesitation, self-doubt, and inconsistency Why pushing through discomfort leads to confidence and momentum How to raise capital using debt instead of giving up equity Creative funding strategies including friends, family, HELOCs, and credit lines The power of land arbitrage to start with minimal capital Wholesale vs. note-selling strategies for generating quick cash How to improve closing rates by asking better questions and handling objections Reframing “lack of cash” into owning a valuable land portfolio Why consistency in mailing is critical—even when cash feels tight TIP OF THE WEEKMark: When raising capital, ask for advice—not money. It naturally leads to funding conversations with people who trust you. Scott: Get on the phone to close deals—real conversations uncover objections and dramatically improve your success rate. Mike: Focus on alignment, not selling. Ask questions to confirm the property fits the buyer's needs before presenting the offer. Jon: Don't stop mailing when cash is tight—keep the machine running and use wholesale deals for quick psychological wins.WANT MORE? Enjoyed this episode? Dive into more episodes of AOPI to discover how to build real passive income through land investing. UNLOCK MORE FREE RESOURCES: Get instant access to my free training, a free copy of my Bestseller Dirt Rich Book, and exclusive bonuses to accelerate your land investing journey—it's all here: https://thelandgeek.ac-page.com/Podcast-Linktree. "Isn't it time to create passive income so you can work where you want when you want, and with whomever you want?"
Are you unknowingly leaving thousands (or even hundreds of thousands) of dollars in tax savings on the table with your real estate strategy? In this episode, we're diving into real estate tax strategies by answering real questions from investors just like you. From LLC myths to Airbnb loopholes, this episode breaks down what actually works when it comes to saving money and scaling your portfolio. You'll learn why having an LLC doesn't reduce your taxes (and what it actually does), how to properly structure your properties for protection, and the biggest mistakes investors make when it comes to liability and tax planning. We also get into powerful strategies like cost segregation studies, the short-term rental loophole, and how to use leverage (like HELOCs and mortgages) to grow your portfolio faster while maximizing deductions along the way. If you're serious about building wealth through real estate and keeping more of what you make, this episode is packed with actionable insights you can implement right away. Tune in to hear: Why an LLC does NOT save you money on taxes When you should (and shouldn't) put properties in an LLC The real reason liability protection matters more than tax savings What expenses you can actually write off with rental properties How the short-term rental loophole can offset your income What a cost segregation study is and how it can create massive deductions Why paid-off properties might actually be risky How to leverage equity (HELOCs, refinancing) to scale faster The difference between passive rental income vs. active house flipping Why you should separate your LLCs for rentals, flips, and businesses How to properly handle the home office deduction across multiple entities
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Welcome to our monthly feature Learn With A Lender with Austin Clarence. In this episode, Austin and D.J. discuss the new Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac rules that will push condo HOAs to increase reserve funds from 10% to 15% and what that means. Next, they discuss how real estate agents can turn these changes into opportunities by educating condo owners and HOA boards, positioning themselves as trusted experts. Austin also explains how bridge loans and HELOCs let homeowners tap into their equity to buy before they sell, and how to navigate today's higher-rate environment shaped by global conflicts, inflation, and oil prices. Subscribe to Austin's newsletter by sending an email to aclarence@nexalending.com. If you'd prefer to watch this interview, click here to view on YouTube! Austin Clarence can be reached at +1 650-906-2376 and aclarence@nexalending.com. This episode is brought to you by Real Geeks and Courted.io.
In this episode, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia revisit reverse mortgages and explain why they are often misunderstood in retirement planning. Rather than a last-resort tool, they frame modern HECM reverse mortgages as a strategic asset that can enhance retirement outcomes when used properly. The discussion highlights how a growing line of credit can act as a buffer against market downturns, improve tax efficiency, and even provide reliable income, ultimately making the case that home equity should be actively coordinated alongside investments and Social Security in a well-designed retirement plan. Listen now to learn more! Takeaways Reverse mortgages are often misunderstood and unfairly dismissed based on outdated myths Home equity should be treated as a usable retirement asset, not just a legacy asset A reverse mortgage line of credit can serve as a buffer asset to manage the sequence of returns risk The line of credit grows over time, increasing flexibility even if unused Loan proceeds are not taxable income, which can improve tax efficiency in retirement Reverse mortgages are more reliable than HELOCs since they cannot be frozen during market stress They can provide guaranteed income streams through tenure or term payment options Using a reverse mortgage early as part of a strategy is typically more effective than waiting until it is a last resort Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Reverse Mortgages 02:30 History and Evolution of Reverse Mortgages 05:51 Understanding the Myths and Misconceptions 10:07 The Logic Behind Reverse Mortgages 13:34 The Growing Line of Credit Explained 16:45 Buffer Assets and Their Importance 17:39 Exploring Buffer Assets in Retirement Planning 20:11 Understanding Reverse Mortgages as Income Streams 23:15 The Mechanics of Reverse Mortgages 28:17 Cost Considerations for Reverse Mortgages 30:09 Identifying Ideal Candidates for Reverse Mortgages 34:09 Last Resort Options and Their Implications Links
In this engaging episode of the Loan Officer Podcast, host Dustin Owen welcomes Tom Pollock from Symmetry Lending for an in-depth conversation recorded live at the Florida Association of Mortgage Professionals trade show in Orlando. Together, they dive into the evolving landscape of home equity lines of credit (HELOCs), with Tom offering a comprehensive overview of how HELOCs can be leveraged as a flexible and powerful financial tool for both homeowners and mortgage professionals. He breaks down practical strategies, such as utilizing piggyback loans to help clients avoid exceeding jumbo loan limits, and shares insights into Symmetry Lending's innovative approach to condo financing—including their unique policy that eliminates the need for a traditional condo review, streamlining the process for borrowers and brokers alike. Tom goes on to highlight Symmetry's commitment to efficiency and service, emphasizing their broker-exclusive platform that delivers rapid approvals within just 3-5 business days, setting them apart in a competitive market. The discussion also touches on the importance of financial responsibility, with Tom and Dustin exchanging personal stories and professional advice on managing finances wisely in today's economic climate. To round out the episode, Tom offers a few of his favorite book recommendations for personal and professional growth, providing listeners with valuable resources to continue their own education. Whether you're a seasoned loan officer or new to the industry, this episode is packed with actionable insights and expert perspectives. Loan officer looking for a new place to call home?
Many of us have substantial equity in our homes. How can we use it to grow our wealth?I'm joined by Matt Lee & Ming Lim from Volition properties to unpack HELOCs (home equity line of credit), the Smith Manoeuvre (routine and supercharged), & reverse mortgages.The episode kicks off by discussing life goals & our why, which is critical to nail down before embarking on any wealth strategy.This episode is brought to you by Clever Consult: https://www.cleverconsult.ai/Discussion points:Goal setting & our Belize (3:03)My goals (13:50)Risks & mitigation in real estate investing (15:55)HELOCs (24:45)The Smith Manoeuvre (29:05)The supercharged Smith Manoeuvre (33:45)Why the Smith Manoeuvre is not for everyone (39:25)Reverse mortgages (46:19)Trends in Toronto multifamily investing (54:54)Volition Properties: https://www.volitionprop.com/matthew@volitionprop.comming@volitionprop.comYatin's Links:Newsletter: https://www.beyondmd.ca/newsletterWebsite: https://www.beyondmd.ca/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yatin-chadha/Email: yatin@beyondmd.caRadiology courses for clinicians:https://beyondradiology.thinkific.com/courses/ct-head-interpretation-coursehttps://beyondradiology.thinkific.com/courses/master-ct-head-interpretation-course
Don't think you have the money to buy a rental property? Maybe you're just looking in the wrong place! Today, we're talking about different ways to invest in real estate using your existing home equity. Whether you're buying your second, third, or fourth property, this simple strategy could help you build your real estate portfolio much faster! Welcome to another Rookie Reply! We're back with three questions from the BiggerPockets Forums, the first of which is all about home equity lines of credit (HELOCs). What are they, and how do they work? Meanwhile, another investor is considering not just a HELOC but multiple options for tapping into their equity. Should they do a cash-out refinance? What about selling the property altogether? We cover the pros and cons of each strategy so YOU can make the right choice! Finally, do you really need a property manager? What about when investing out of state? Stick around until the end, as we share our favorite software, systems, and resources for hands-on landlords—no matter the distance! Looking to invest? Need answers? Ask your question here! In This Episode We Cover Home equity lines of credit (HELOCs) explained (and how to use them) Three ways to access the home equity in your investment property How to “recycle” the same funds to buy multiple rental properties Self-managing versus hiring property management when investing from afar The one time you absolutely should hire a property manager for your rental And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/rookie-700 Interested in learning more about today's sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email advertise@biggerpockets.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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In this Ask KT & Suze Anything episode, Suze answers your questions about margin accounts, emergency funds, and HELOCs. Plus, paying your taxes now and so much more! Check out Suze’s NEW website: SuzeOrman.com Watch Suze’s YouTube Channel Jumpstart financial wellness for your employees: https://bit.ly/SecureSave Protect your financial future with the Must Have Docs: https://bit.ly/3Vq1V3GGet your savings going with Alliant Credit Union: https://bit.ly/3rg0YioGet Suze’s special offers for podcast listeners at suzeorman.com/offerJoin Suze’s Women & Money Community for FREE and ASK SUZE your questions which may just end up on the podcast. Download the app by following one of these links: CLICK HERE FOR APPLE: https://apple.co/2KcAHbHCLICK HERE FOR GOOGLE PLAY: https://bit.ly/3curfMI See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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In this Ask KT & Suze Anything episode, Suze answers your questions about HELOCs, trusts, mortgages and so and more! Check out Suze’s NEW website: SuzeOrman.com Watch Suze’s YouTube Channel Jumpstart financial wellness for your employees: https://bit.ly/SecureSave Protect your financial future with the Must Have Docs: https://bit.ly/3Vq1V3GGet your savings going with Alliant Credit Union: https://bit.ly/3rg0YioGet Suze’s special offers for podcast listeners at suzeorman.com/offerJoin Suze’s Women & Money Community for FREE and ASK SUZE your questions which may just end up on the podcast. Download the app by following one of these links: CLICK HERE FOR APPLE: https://apple.co/2KcAHbHCLICK HERE FOR GOOGLE PLAY: https://bit.ly/3curfMISee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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If you got sued tomorrow, could you lose your home? In this episode of the Main Street Business Podcast, Mark J. Kohler and Mat Sorensen break down the real risks to your home equity — and the smart strategies you can use right now to protect it before it's too late. From homestead exemptions to equity stripping, this is essential knowledge every homeowner and investor needs to understand.We dive into how different states protect your home, when creditors can (and can't) touch your equity, and how tools like HELOCs, retirement accounts, and domestic asset protection trusts can create powerful layers of defense. You'll also learn the common mistakes people make — like relying too heavily on umbrella insurance or transferring assets incorrectly — and how to avoid them.If you're serious about protecting your wealth, minimizing risk, and building a solid financial foundation, this episode gives you a practical roadmap to do it right. Make sure to subscribe, like, and share this with someone who needs to safeguard their assets!You'll learn:How lawsuits can impact your home equity — and when your house is actually at riskWhat the homestead exemption is and how it protects you (state-by-state differences)When and how creditors can force the sale of your homeThe strategy behind “equity stripping” and how it can reduce your exposureHow HELOCs and liens can be used as a defensive asset protection toolWhere to safely move equity so it's harder for creditors to reachThe pros and cons of domestic asset protection trusts vs. offshore trustsWhy umbrella insurance may not protect you the way you thinkHow to structure LLCs and entities to contain liability and protect personal assetsCommon asset protection mistakes that could cost you everythingGet a comprehensive tax consultation with one of our Main Street tax lawyers that can build a tax strategy plan with an affordable consultation that will leave you speechless!!Here's the link - https://kkoslawyers.com/services/comprehensive-bus-tax-consult/?utm_source=buzzsprout&utm_medium=description-link&utm_campaign=main-street-business-podcast&utm_content=msbp614-can-you-lose-your-house-in-a-lawsuitGrab my eBook 30 Unique Strategies Every Business Owner Should Know! You don't want to miss this! Secure your tickets for the #1 Event For Small Business Owners On Main Street America: Main Street 360 Looking to connect with a rock star law firm? KKOS is only a click away! Are you ready to get certified in EVERY strategy I teach? Start your journey with a FREE 15-minute discovery call to explore the Main Street Tax Pro Certification. Check out our YOUTUBE Channel Here: https://www.youtube.com/markjkohlerCraving more content? Check out my Instagram!
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Just three years ago, Joanna Caldera was working as a nurse, raising four children while her husband was gone most of the month in the oil fields. She wanted time with her kids and her husband to come home, but all of that required money. Now, just three years later, she has four rental units, has made $130K in profit from her first two house flips, has replaced her nurse's salary with real estate income, and has her dream home. Anyone can do the same, using the strategies she shares today, even if you have no experience, even if you've got very little cash to play with. Joanna even overpaid for her first property by $20,000—a mistake almost every rookie investor is scared to make, but it paid off. She's done everything—cosmetic flips, BRRRRs (buy, rehab, rent, refinance, repeat), added floors and rooms, dealt with hoarder houses, and did it all in between picking up her kids from school, taking them to practice, and oftentimes while working a nurse's shift. Joanna proves real estate investing is possible for everyone, and within just a few years, your life can completely change because of it. In This Episode We Cover How to invest in real estate when you have very little time or cash Why “overpaying” for a property is not a bad idea (if your situation is like Joanna's) Using your home equity to invest and why HELOCs are an investor's secret weapon Pulling off the “perfect BRRRR” and getting a renovated house for very little money Raising private money from your friends and family when starting to invest (and how to protect their principal) Making six figures to renovate your dream home? Joanna did it, you can, too And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-1252 Interested in learning more about today's sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email advertise@biggerpockets.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Curious? Watch Our Money Makeover Bootcamp!Ready? Buy Our Simplified Budget System Now!Hey budget besties, this episode is all about one very grown-up truth: the financial stuff that sneaks up on us usually is not actually a surprise. It just feels that way when we are not planning ahead.We are talking about why property taxes should not be a yearly jump scare, how relying on a financial “Plan B” can keep you stuck, and why teaching kids to manage their own money matters so much. We also dig into Amazon spending guilt and why tracking after the fact is not nearly as helpful as budgeting on purpose from the start.This episode is packed with real client stories, practical budget shifts, and the reminder that financial peace comes from planning ahead, not scrambling after the fact.In this episode, we talk about:Why saving monthly for property taxes can change everythingHow escrow keeps your money out of sight and earning for the bank instead of for youWhy relying on mom, credit cards, HELOCs, or your emergency fund can make it harder to stick to your budgetThe power of committing to Plan A and removing easy financial fallbacksHow to teach kids real money lessons by letting them spend their own moneyWhy boundaries around money help both adults and kids build confidenceHow to stop shaming yourself over Amazon spendingWhy separating spending into clear budget categories makes money easier to manageHow intentional budgeting creates freedom without guiltKey reminder from this episodeWe want you to be your own bank.That means planning ahead, saving for the things you know are coming, using your budget on purpose, and building a system that helps you rely on yourself instead of defaulting to outside help or last-minute fixes.What we want budget besties to rememberYou do not need to feel ashamed about spending money when it is already part of the plan. The goal is not perfection. The goal is clarity. When your money has a job, you can spend, save, and prepare with a whole lot more confidence.Let's Take Our Relationship To The Next Level:1️⃣ Facebook Group ➡︎ budgetbesties.com/facebook2️⃣ Be on the Podcast ➡︎ budgetbesties.com/livecall3️⃣ Private 1-on-1 Coaching. ➡︎ budgetbesties.com/coachingThis podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not personal financial, legal, or tax advice.This description may contain affiliate links, meaning we may get a commission at no cost to you if you click & purchase.Click here to view our privacy policy.
Investor Fuel Real Estate Investing Mastermind - Audio Version
In this episode, Dylan Silver interviews Matt Graham, a former banker turned small-shop mortgage banker and investor based in the Ozarks. Matt shares insights on real estate investing opportunities in the Ozarks, including affordable entry-level properties, long-term rentals, and short-term vacation rentals in areas like Branson. He explains financing strategies such as HELOCs, the BRRRR method, commercial lines of credit, and DSCR loans. Matt also discusses the importance of choosing the right investment strategy, surrounding yourself with the right team, and understanding market factors like interest rates, inflation, and unemployment when making real estate decisions. Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind: Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply Investor Machine Marketing Partnership: Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com Coaching with Mike Hambright: Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform! Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/ New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club —--------------------
In this episode of "The DO Show," mortgage expert Dustin Owen takes a deep dive into the concept of home equity, thoroughly explaining what it is, how it accumulates over time, and why it is such a valuable asset for homeowners. He breaks down the various ways in which home equity can build, such as through regular mortgage payments, property value appreciation, and home improvements, helping listeners understand the mechanics behind growing their wealth through real estate ownership. Dustin then explores the financial tools available to homeowners who wish to access their home equity, focusing specifically on Home Equity Lines of Credit (HELOCs) and Home Equity Loans. He provides a detailed comparison of these two options, outlining how each works, their respective advantages and disadvantages, and the scenarios in which one might be more appropriate than the other. He also discusses the potential risks involved, such as fluctuating interest rates with HELOCs or the possibility of overleveraging, and stresses the importance of understanding the terms and conditions before proceeding. Throughout the episode, Dustin emphasizes the critical role of education and professional guidance when making decisions about leveraging home equity. He draws important lessons from the 2008 financial crisis, illustrating how misuse or misunderstanding of home equity products contributed to widespread financial hardship for many families. By sharing these insights, Dustin encourages listeners to approach home equity with caution and to seek advice from trusted mortgage professionals. Ultimately, Dustin's message is clear: when used responsibly and strategically, home equity can be a powerful tool for building long-term wealth, funding major expenses, or investing in new opportunities. However, he cautions that irresponsible use or lack of knowledge can quickly turn this asset into a liability, leading to financial stress or even loss of one's home. He urges listeners to educate themselves, consult with experts, and make informed choices to ensure that leveraging home equity serves as a benefit rather than a burden. The Moment Homeowners Realize Home Equity (00:00:00) America's Record Home Equity & Its Uses (00:01:14) Episode Introduction & Focus (00:02:26) Host Introduction & Background (00:03:05) Defining Home Equity (00:03:58) Home Equity as Illiquid Wealth (00:05:00) HELOCs: Structure and Features (00:06:05) Home Equity Loans: Structure and Features (00:08:20) Risks and Historical Misuse of Home Equity (00:09:31) Smart Uses for Home Equity (00:10:44) The Importance of Education and Guidance (00:11:59) Encouragement to Seek Professional Help (00:13:06) Episode Conclusion & Call to Action (00:14:22) Let our team connect you with a Real Estate Expert local to you! https://tloponline.com/real-estate-help/
Investor Fuel Real Estate Investing Mastermind - Audio Version
In this conversation, Dylan Silver interviews Arthur Miguez, a partner at Lending Spot, discussing various aspects of mortgage lending, particularly in South Florida. They explore the growing popularity of DSCR loans, the competitive investment landscape in South Florida, and the diverse profiles of investors in the region. Arthur explains the differences between cash-out refinancing and HELOCs, emphasizing the importance of leveraging home equity for real estate investments. The discussion also touches on future projects in Miami and the advantages of investing in the area. Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind: Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply Investor Machine Marketing Partnership: Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com Coaching with Mike Hambright: Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform! Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/ New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club —--------------------
This week, Candice and Malessa sit down with Andrew Freed, a Massachusetts-based real estate investor and licensed agent who turned a single condo into a growing multifamily portfolio. Andrew breaks down how leveraging HELOCs, refinancing, and capital recycling helped him acquire properties faster than traditional saving ever could—and why building systems and delegating early was the key to scaling without burnout. Plus, the hosts unpack a major shift reshaping New York City: the surge in office-to-residential conversions. Are these projects the solution to the housing shortage, or just luxury units in disguise? They explore how adaptive reuse could redefine neighborhoods—and what it means for the future of urban living. Filmed as part of the Mastery of Real Estate (MORE) Network, powered by Brown Harris Stevens. Guest: Andrew Freed Sponsor: Brian Scott Cohen of Guaranteed Rate, providing the best mortgage experience possible. | https://www.grarate.com/ Hosts: Candice Milano | @candicemilano https://www.bhsusa.com/real-estate-agent/candice-milano Malessa Rambarran | @malessa_innyc https://www.bhsusa.com/real-estate-agent/malessa-rambarran Subscribe the The Build Up: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-build-up/id1716615268 Brown Harris Stevens is one of the largest privately owned real estate brokerages in the country, with more than 40 offices across four states: New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, and Florida. https://bhsusa.com/
Investor Fuel Real Estate Investing Mastermind - Audio Version
In this conversation, José Brador Jr. discusses various aspects of real estate financing, focusing on traditional lending, strategies for first-time investors, and the importance of building a tailored investment strategy. He emphasizes the significance of house hacking, down payment assistance programs, and the use of HELOCs for funding real estate investments. The discussion also touches on the value-add strategies and the importance of networking within the real estate community. Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind: Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply Investor Machine Marketing Partnership: Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com Coaching with Mike Hambright: Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform! Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/ New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club —--------------------
HousingWire brought leading housing economists and capital markets experts to Dallas for the Housing Economic Summit with one goal: translate charts and forecasts into what actually matters for professionals trying to close deals every day. In this episode, John Toohig of Raymond James breaks down whole loan trading—the buying and selling of unsecuritized mortgages—and explains why understanding liquidity on the back end is now just as important as originating the loan itself. As originators adjust to life after the 2021–2022 refinance boom, John outlines where the real opportunities are today: HELOCs, second liens, ARMs, and purchase loans—especially in a market full of “trapped equity.” He also explains why mortgage credit is historically clean (perhaps too clean), why banks are re-entering the ARM market, which loan types are hardest to sell in the secondary market, and what separates lenders who consistently move loans from those who struggle with due diligence. For originators, capital markets teams, and executives navigating 2026, this episode turns macro signals into actionable insight. Here's a glimpse of what you'll learn: Whole loan trades are faster and simpler than securitization HELOCs and second liens represent major opportunity amid trapped equity Banks are returning — especially in ARMs Credit is extremely “clean,” perhaps tighter than necessary Organized files and disciplined underwriting drive repeat investor demand Related to this episode: John Toohig's Bio John Toohig's LinkedIn The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire's Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they're differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.
Rental property financing is becoming much easier. For years, seven and eight-percent rates made it brutal to make deals work. But now, things are changing—for the better. Mortgage rates in the five-percent range? HELOCs with no closing costs? Seller concessions to buy down your interest rate, and a smoother path to affordable properties? It's all culminating in 2026, and this could be one of the best years in recent memory to get a mortgage for a rental property. Today, we're talking to Jeff Welgan, who's spent 22 years in the mortgage industry, and is bringing good news. Thought those ARM (adjustable-rate mortgage) loans were left behind in 2008? Safer, cheaper, and more flexible ARM loans are available to investors. With lower rates and longer fixed-rate periods, they could be the perfect option as mortgage rates continue to decline. Jeff also shares how you can get a HELOC with no closing costs, so you don't have to give up that rock-bottom mortgage rate you secured in 2020. Plus, when to refinance, how low rates could go, and whether you still should buy down your rate in 2026. In This Episode We Cover Jeff's 2026 mortgage rate prediction and the “range” he thinks rates will stay in Are ARMs back? Why adjustable-rate mortgages are cheaper, safer, and better for investors Should you pay down your interest rate? When Jeff says it is (and isn't) worth it Why the mortgage industry's cycle is about to end, and investors must be careful Got a high mortgage rate? This is when you should think about refinancing And So Much More! Links from the Show Join the Future of Real Estate Investing with Fundrise Join BiggerPockets for FREE Join us at the BiggerPockets Conference October 2-4 in Orlando. Buy tickets Sign Up for the On the Market Newsletter BiggerPockets Real Estate 1207 - 2026 Mortgage Rate Predictions: This “X Factor” Could Change Everything Dave's BiggerPockets Profile Find an Investor-Friendly Lender Today Free BiggerPockets Resources Jeff's BiggerPockets Profile Work with Jeff Grab Dave's Book, "Start with Strategy" Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/on-the-market-400 Interested in learning more about today's sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email advertise@biggerpockets.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sam Kwak is a real estate investor, serial entrepreneur, author, and licensed pilot, best known as one half of the Kwak Brothers. His mission is simple but powerful: to help every American family achieve financial peace of mind. Through a portfolio of companies, Sam helps families pay off debt, make smarter investment decisions, and solve real-life financial challenges. Sam immigrated to the United States from South Korea in 1999, settling in Chicago with his family. As the son of a church pastor, he grew up facing financial hardship while navigating language and cultural barriers. In 2012, Sam and his brother Daniel launched a mobile DJ business, which they later sold to begin their real estate investing journey in 2014. After years of struggle, they experienced a major breakthrough in 2017—scaling from zero to over 75 rental units in just one year. Today, Sam educates and empowers investors worldwide through YouTube, live stages, and the FORCE Strategy, a system he co-created to acquire real estate without using personal cash or credit. During the show we discuss: Sam's core strategy for helping families pay down their home loans dramatically faster How an offset mortgage works and how it keeps cash accessible while reducing interest Why most homeowners misunderstand and misuse HELOCs What a daily interest ledger is and how to use it to your advantage The meaning of "financial peace of mind" and why it's central to the Kwak Brothers' mission How immigrating to the U.S. shaped Sam's view on opportunity and entrepreneurship The struggles from 2014–2017—and what led to scaling from 0 to 75+ rental units in one year What the FORCE Strategy is and how it helps investors acquire property without using personal cash or credit How education, software, community, and income-producing assets work together to create lasting freedom Resources: https://acceleratedstrategies.com/ https://thekwakbrothers.com/
Most people think financial freedom comes from earning more, saving harder, or finding the perfect investment. But the real trap isn't income…it's the way we're taught to store and move money. We're told to separate everything into neat little buckets: checking, savings, mortgage, credit cards, investments. And somehow, even when we're "doing well," the system still feels tight, slow, and exhausting. The traditional system is wildly inefficient by design. A 3–4% mortgage isn't really 3–4% at all. It's closer to 12–15% in simple interest once you account for amortization. Savings accounts paying 1–3% sit right next to debt costing 8–25%, and no one ever teaches us to connect those two dots. We're working hard, being disciplined, and still leaking money through invisible cracks. Instead of playing by those rules, Joseph Kovacevic built a completely different operating system: one pot, one line, one flow. All income goes into a first lien HELOC, and all expenses come out of it. No idle cash, no artificial separation between "good money" and "bad money." How did he go from using money like everyone else to building an entirely different financial system? Why do people struggle so much to understand and actually implement this system? In this episode, entrepreneur, money mentor, and first lien HELOC specialist Joseph Kovacevic breaks down how he's been running this system for over 15 years - from quitting the railroad, to scaling real estate, to using HELOCs and insurance policies as an integrated financial engine. Things You'll Learn In This Episode Your mortgage interest isn't what you think it is A "low" 3–5% mortgage is actually closer to 12–15% in simple interest over 30 years, so what are you really paying for homeownership? Why savings accounts make you poorer, not safer If you're earning 1–3% in savings while paying 8–25% on debt, are you actually saving, or quietly burning money? The one-pot system that replaces budgeting entirely What happens when all income, expenses, investing, and saving run through a single HELOC instead of 10 separate accounts? How to become the bank instead of borrowing from one From infinite banking to lending your own capital at 12%+, how do you turn cash flow into a self-funding wealth machine? Guest Bio Joseph Kovacevic is an entrepreneur, Money Mentor, and first lien HELOC specialist. At 23 years old, he hired out on the railroad for a career that lasted almost 20 years. He has been investing in real estate since 2000. Between managing rental properties and flipping houses, he was able to escape the corporate world and become an entrepreneur. In 2018, he met Chris Naugle at a Home show in Buffalo, NY, and was later introduced to Brent Kesler, who introduced him to IBC. After years of using the Infinite Banking Concept, he now wants to share IBC with everyone. Being a part of The Money School and The Money Multiplier team, he now helps others break away from conformity and pursue their dreams. He is passionate about educating others about the implementation of the Infinite Banking Concept to solve people's money problems. To learn more, visit https://themoneymultiplier.com/joseph-kovacevic. About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom. Get Your FREE Copy Of 'The Private Money Guide' and 'Mapping Out The Millionaire Mystery'. Keep up with us every week on our FREE Live webinars for more conversations like this, and as a BONUS, get our newest mini-ebook instantly upon signing up! https://moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar (digital download). Dive into money, mindset, and motivation videos on my YouTube Channel, and be sure to subscribe so you can be notified of our weekly LIVE streams. Find out about our next weekend workshop, and see what others are saying: https://www.moneyschooltraining.com/registration.
Smart Agency Masterclass with Jason Swenk: Podcast for Digital Marketing Agencies
Would you like access to our advanced agency training for FREE? https://www.agencymastery360.com/training Natalie Henley, CEO of Volume Nine, is here to unpack how she bought out her agency's founder. Not through PE, not through M&A, but as a trusted insider who built her path from employee to owner. Natalie shares the behind-the-scenes story of how she structured the deal without needing an SBA loan, the mindset shifts she had to make, and how the agency survived both Google's algorithm changes and COVID-19 cratering their top clients. In this episode, we'll discuss: Grooming your #2 to become your successor, or become the one buying. Avoiding mistakes that slow down or kill an internal exit. Using creative financing (HELOCs, owner carry notes, balloon payments) to structure the deal. Knowing when an employee has what it takes to run the agency. Preserving trust and team stability during a leadership transition. Subscribe Apple | Spotify | iHeart Radio Sponsors and Resources This episode is brought to you by Wix Studio: If you're leveling up your team and your client experience, your site builder should keep up too. That's why successful agencies use Wix Studio — built to adapt the way your agency does: AI-powered site mapping, responsive design, flexible workflows, and scalable CMS tools so you spend less on plugins and more on growth. Ready to design faster and smarter? Go to wix.com/studio to get started. Links: Natalie's free AI and SEO grader tool: geo.v9digital.com Want to know what your agency is worth? Check out the Agency Valuation Calculator The overlooked exit strategy: selling your agency to a team member… Natalie started as an employee in a boutique digital firm. When it got acquired by Volume Nine, she climbed the ranks the old-school way: by taking on every problem no one else would. Over time, she ran the company. Then COVID hit. The agency's revenue cratered. Clients disappeared. The founder wanted out. But instead of flipping to a stranger, he turned to Natalie. The "Oh Shit" Moment and the Deal That Followed When the founder came to Natalie with the offer to buy, he already had the groundwork laid. He'd called the bank, scoped out an SBA loan, and gave her a number. Natalie didn't have a pile of cash sitting around, but she did have grit, resourcefulness, and inside knowledge of the business. She didn't take the SBA route. Instead, she pieced together a creative financing stack: A HELOC for the down payment An owner-carry note A balloon payment at the end The company is paying for itself over time. No brokers. No middlemen. Just a fair, fast, founder-to-founder deal. Why This Worked (And Why Most Don't) Natalie had already been: Running the company Exposed to the numbers Made a co-owner years earlier This wasn't a random promotion. It was a trust-built, stress-tested evolution. And it mattered. Because when the deal closed, the culture didn't collapse. The clients stayed. The team believed. What if the best buyer for your agency is already on your team? If you're feeling done, but still care about your agency, selling to a team member might be the cleanest win. Here's how to set it up: Start grooming your #2 now. VP → President → Co-owner → Buyer. Expose them to EBITDA, profitability, client churn…. everything. Stress-test them: give scary responsibilities and see how they show up. Be fair. Don't squeeze every dime. The goal is continuity and peace of mind. Don't wait until you're burned out. Move before it's a fire drill. Agency ownership is a wild ride. If you're looking for a graceful exit that doesn't torch your legacy, this might be it. And if you're the #2? Start acting like the owner today. You never know when the keys will be offered. As Natalie said, "If you care about your team and the agency's legacy, you owe it to yourself to consider your employees as potential buyers. Even if they say no, at least you gave them a shot." Do You Want to Transform Your Agency from a Liability to an Asset? Looking to dig deeper into your agency's potential? Check out our Agency Blueprint. Designed for agency owners like you, our Agency Blueprint helps you uncover growth opportunities, tackle obstacles, and craft a customized blueprint for your agency's success.
Pascal Wagner interviews Shawn Owen, CEO of Salt Lending, to unpack how crypto holders can responsibly leverage Bitcoin for liquidity without taking on unnecessary risk. Shawn shares his journey from traditional real estate investing through the 2008 financial crisis and into early Bitcoin adoption, explaining why lending against crypto mirrors familiar tools like HELOCs more than speculative margin trading. The conversation explores how Bitcoin-backed loans work, what happens during sharp drawdowns, and how Salt structures products to protect both borrowers and lenders. They also discuss why institutional adoption, regulation, and long-term credit infrastructure are critical to Bitcoin's role as a serious financial asset. Shawn OwenCurrent role: CEO, Salt LendingBased in: United StatesSay hi to them at: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawn-owen-052a6153 Twitter/X: https://x.com/Shawn_OwenJSALT Lending Twitter/X: https://x.com/SALTLendingSALT Lending Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRmyfzXjus8/ Company profile and blog: https://saltlending.com/author/shawn-owen/ Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/ Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
ALL Method Wealth Building | Joshua Massari breaks down how Joshua and his wife rapidly built equity using a live-in renovation strategy that turns primary residences into long-term wealth engines. In this episode, Joshua explains the ALL method (Acquire, Live, Lift, Leverage, Loop), how they grew from roughly $270K to $2.3M in equity in under five years, and why "the ugliest house in the best neighborhood" is the best starting point. The conversation also covers using a solo 401(k) for out-of-state rentals, leveraging HELOCs and creative equity options, avoiding common overpaying traps, and what success looks like beyond just hitting millionaire status. _______________________________ If you want to learn how to run your business in 5 hours or less.... Go to https://www.5HourBusiness.com Subscribe to my YouTube channel: / @tonyjavierbiz And if you're into flying and want to follow my Aviation journey, check out my other YouTube channel at / @tonyjaviertv _______________________________ Follow me on Social Media: Tiktok - / tonyjavier.tv Instagram - / tonyjavier.tv Facebook Personal - / tonyejavier Facebook Business - / realtonyjavier ________________________________________ If you want to dominate your Real Estate Market with TV commercials, go here: https://www.ClaimMyMarket.com If you want to connect with me and my network, go to https://tonyjavier.com/connect If you want to check out Tony's Real Estate Resources and Vendors go to https://www.TonyJavier.com/resources ________________________________________ Tony is the owner of an INC 5000-rated Real Estate Investment Company. He has been featured in Bigger Pockets, Wholesaling INC, Steve Trang's Real Estate Disruptors, Joe Fairless' Best Ever Podcast, and many other top podcasts and platforms. When Tony is not working on his business, he enjoys flying his plane. You can see videos on that and how he uses airplanes to save money on taxes. Don't forget to like the video, comment, subscribe to my channel, and share this with a friend if I'm doing my job and providing value to you and your network. If I'm not doing my job please let me know in the comments how I can be better, your feedback is greatly appreciated. See you in the next video!
Keith shares how a recent trip to Colorado Springs and a changing commission landscape reveal what really matters for real estate investors now From there, the show dives into the three levers investors truly control—leverage, operations, and relationships—before welcoming lender Caeli Ridge to break down the major mortgage options for investors. You'll hear how different loan types fit different strategies: from your first conventional "golden ticket" loans, to DSCR loans based on property income, to short-term fix-and-flip and bridge loans that prioritize speed and flexibility. The episode then moves into how more advanced investors can scale beyond 10 doors, navigate debt-to-income and tax strategy, and even approach financing for short-term rentals—all while highlighting why having the right lending partner and long-term plan can make a big difference to your results. Episode Page: GetRichEducation.com/591 For access to properties or free help with a GRE Investment Coach, start here: GREmarketplace.com GRE Free Investment Coaching: GREinvestmentcoach.com Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Invest with Freedom Family Investments. For predictable 10-12% quarterly returns, visit FreedomFamilyInvestments.com/GRE or text 1-937-795-8989 to speak with a freedom coach Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review" For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript: Keith Weinhold 0:01 Welcome to GRE. I'm your host. Keith Weinhold with new ways to think about your life through goals momentum in the real estate market. Then learn about various mortgage loan types, conventional DSCR, fix and flip, bridge loans, short term rental loans and more. Knowing which loans to use can save you millions and learn the fatal mortgage mistakes you must avoid today on get rich education. Corey Coates 0:29 since 2014 the powerful get rich education podcast has created more passive income for people than nearly any other show in the world. This show teaches you how to earn strong returns from passive real estate investing in the best markets without losing your time being a flipper or landlord. Show Host Keith Weinhold writes for both Forbes and Rich Dad advisors and delivers a new show every week since 2014 there's been millions of listener downloads and 188 world nations. He has a list show guests include top selling personal finance author Robert Kiyosaki. Get rich education can be heard on every podcast platform, plus it has its own dedicated Apple and Android listener phone apps build wealth on the go with the get rich education podcast. Sign up now for the get rich education podcast or visit get rich education.com Speaker 1 1:14 You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is get rich education. Keith Weinhold 1:30 Welcome to GRE from Winnebago, Minnesota to Winnipeg, Manitoba, and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Weinhold, and you're listening to get rich education, the voice of real estate investing since 2014 before we get into the mortgage discussion, where we'll discuss five or 10 different investor loan types and their various pros and cons, which could save you millions over the course of your life. I shared with you that I traveled to Colorado A couple weeks ago, for a goals retreat hosted by the real estate guys, top notch event, I spent extra time there in Colorado Springs, because I find it really livable, and I spent five hours with a local realtor there, one day out and about visiting properties in the area I'm potentially looking for a home or a second home. And by the way, how is this for a price range? The realtor wanted to know what my Buy Box is, and since I'm just learning the Colorado Springs market, I told him I'm willing to spend between 400k and 1.2 million on the property, yeah, pretty wide range, a mile wide. Fortunately, my other Buy Box criteria are more narrow and specific, and I have got to say, I'm surprised at how low the area's home prices are. I thought they'd be higher. Interestingly, before touring homes, my buyer agent wanted me to sign a six month exclusive representation agreement. Fair enough, that's standard stuff. It was on the agreement, though, that I as the buyer pay a 3% commission up on the purchase, and the seller would presumably pay the other 3% to make up that total 6% commission for the agent compensation. Well, historically, the seller paid the entire 6% and this, of course, goes back to the NAR settlement, and that ruling that became effective in August of 2024 you probably remember this, and I talked about it on the show back then, and how it's not really that big of a deal, especially to investors like us, because at GRE marketplace and with our GRE investment coaching, it's a direct model. There's zero commission on either side, and then you, in turn, get some of those savings, but out in the larger world and in the owner occupant world. Well, that rule change that started a year and a half ago. It means that sellers are no longer required to pay the buyer's agent. Instead, the fee is now negotiable between buyers and their agent. The other change is that property listings no longer display the buyer agent's commission offer. But here's what's interesting in practice, and what really ends up happening in the end, in most cases, is that the seller still pays the full commission and compensates both agents that full 6% sometimes it's 5% instead of six buyers and buyer agents, they still operate under the seller pays. And that's largely because that has just been the norm. It's what's seemingly always been done. It's what buyers are used to. And the reason that that often persists. Is because the seller is the party in the transaction that has that thick equity in the property, deep equity, and buyers are the ones often just trying to scrape together whatever they can for a down payment and closing costs. Buyers are not going to be able to come up with another 15k for an agent commission when they're buying a 500k property, that's 3% especially today, this is true because American homeowners the seller then still have record equity positions of about 300k an all time high. Nearly half of mortgaged homes are considered equity rich. What does equity rich mean? It means that the loan balance is less than half of the home's value, yeah, the seller has the means to pay the full commission. So the point is, in practice, the seller, yeah, still pays that full five to 6% commission in the overwhelming majority of cases, and the buyer pays nothing. And if that does change, it's going to take a long time. You know, a lot of these evanescent real estate stories that people think are going to have some seismic impact. It rarely does, like this erstwhile NAR ruling or the 50 year mortgage proposal or banning big institutions for buying more single family rentals. You know, this stuff is like one little baseball sized asteroid striking an entire planet. I mean, it's like a barely discernible impact. Real estate is anchored in one place like Jabba the Hut. It is solid. These stories are interesting, but they're not impactful. Keith Weinhold 6:52 Instead, I've mentioned it before. What are three things you control in real estate that really matter. And these are evergreen things. First, it's, how many dollars are you leveraging? That's where your wealth is going to come from. In fact, we're going to discuss that today with mortgage loan types. Second, what's the efficiency of operations on your existing properties? And thirdly, what is the quality of your relationships? And actually, we're addressing the third one today too, talking to a lender that you could make part of your team. You can control these three things. They're unyielding, they're evergreen, they're long term, and they all have gratitas and impact those three things, leverage operations and relationships. Now my agent drops me off and picks me up from my hotel here at the Broadmoor in Colorado Springs. This was also the event hotel for the goals retreat. I just extended my stay to hang out in the area. Look at real estate, do some climbing on Pikes Peak. Pro tip for you on hotel room rates, talk to a human being before I booked my stay, I called the front desk and asked them if they could extend the attractive event room rate to more nights on my extended stay. And they agreed. You might have heard of the Broadmoor. It is well known. It's been here for more than 100 years, and it is such a fine place to stay. Let me tell you about this special piece of real estate. In fact, I've thought it through, and I will now hereby proclaim that it is the finest us hotel experience that I've ever had in my life. I say us because I stayed at an amazing place in Dubai. But what makes the Broadmoor stand alone? It's the details and the service. A lot of hotels are nice, but this is on a different level. And I don't say this to brag, and this is because you probably can afford to stay here, yeah, like I have. You might have paid more elsewhere in your life for a lesser hotel, although I am here in the low seasons. Okay, now, sure, you've got views of the Rockies and a man made lake and waterfall and even a beautiful chandelier in my hotel room. The thing that sets it apart, though, is you have this service that feels old world and not corporate. That's what makes the difference. The Broadmoor is horse themed, since horses are a symbol of the American West. There are about 800 rooms here. It's kind of like a self contained adult Disneyland championship golf courses, a world class spa, even an outdoor lap swimming pool like that has lanes that I swam in one morning for. Fine dining, casual dining, access to hiking, fly fishing, even falconry, zip lines, tennis, pickleball pools. Take the cog railway to the Pikes Peak, Summit. Okay. Now, other nice hotels have attractions that are sort of like that, but when I rave about the service, it's the little things they are knocking on my door before 10am to come in and clean the room. And you know how so commonly, when you first check into your hotel room and you look in the closet, there are not enough clothing hangers, and they're all like stupidly mismatched. These all match. They're all nice wood, and there are plenty of them. So I'm talking about these details. I'm telling you. I had dinner at one of the broadmoor's restaurants the other night. I just happened to take a close look at the tag on the napkin. Sure enough, it is made in Italy. I mean, jeez, no detail is overlooked at this stellar place. In fact, here's what I'll do. You know, I'll just completely stop my Colorado Springs home search right now. Instead, I'm going to stop down by the Broadmoor front desk, tell him to give me some moving boxes, because I'm moving into the Broadmoor and I'll be here for the next decade. Start forwarding my mail here and everything. And hey, at least I was courteous enough to give them notice. I can't stay here too long, or my standards will be rising faster than my net worth. Yeah, yeah. Can't go to sleep with a mint on your pillow every night, I suppose. Keith Weinhold 11:38 Now, the reason I came here now is to attend that aforementioned goals retreat, and let me take all the time and all the resources that I put into being here and distill them into just a few of the most salient takeaways for you. Goals should be smart, strategic, measurable, actionable, relevant and time based, they must be written down. Now, how would you describe yourself to somebody else that didn't know who you were? Write that down next. What do you think your reputation is? How would others describe you? Write that down now that you can see how you describe yourself and how others describe you, you can see that there's a gap there. That gap is what you need to work on. I learned that goal should be written in the present tense, not the future tense. I did not know that before. For example, say it is January 1, 2035, and I own $5 million in rental property. That's an example of how you would do that. So take future events and write them in the present tense. Other questions at the goals retreat that got really introspective are, what are you really going to do with your life? And write down that answer. Sheesh, that is tough. And if you think that's a hard question for you to ask of yourself, the next one is even harder. It's simply why? Why is that where you're going with your life? And then write that down? I mean, would you answer questions like this for yourself? And you really think about it, that can occupy a new segment of your entire headspace. It is a big cognitive load, and a last one to leave you with is to dream not just big, but gigantic. Get it out there, write down a dream that interests you, but it's so grandiose that you're actually embarrassed to tell someone about this stretch dream, for example, for me, it's the first person to walk on another planet. No human has ever done that, and this would most likely happen on Mars. See, this is so grand that is sort of embarrassing for me to even share that with you. It almost makes you sound Loony, like I would have to learn so many new skills to travel to and walk on Mars. But you should write down a bunch of other goals too. You're sort of brainstorming on goals, attainable goals. Recall that is the A in the SMART goals acronym, you want to write down a bunch of attainable ones, not just that stretch one. So for attainable ones, one of them is for me to become the highest man on earth. To give you an example. And I attempted that goal two years ago, and I failed. I told you about that at that time. But see now, compared to my embarrassing stretch goal of walking on Mars, the highest man on earth feels attainable, I know what it takes to achieve it, and it's worth doing, ah, but it's a grind to get there, yet it would be worth it. Those are some quick take. Ways from the real estate guys goals retreat while on stage the event host Robert helms he took a minute respite from the goals material, and he recognized the fact that, as he calls it, the four OG real estate podcasters are all in the same room. One of them is helms himself, and now I feel like the other three are all older and doing it longer than me. I was one of the four that he mentioned. But you know, there is only one podcast that was mentioned from stage, and that is that Robert helms told the audience that they should be listening to the get rich education podcast. That was a nice thing to say, and he is always a gracious giver. Keith Weinhold 15:45 Next, we're talking about four major loan types, conventional DSCR, fix and flip and then bridge loans. When we discuss the first two parts of it could sound repetitive, but you'll see why we do this, because then you'll be able to compare it to nichey loan types that we discuss, for example, the speed of a bridge loan, where you can get funded in just one week, compared to a slower conventional loan. The mortgage landscape changes. I still remember how in 2012 we had still somewhat freshly emerged from the global financial crisis, and back then, you could only get four conventional loans, four rental properties, not 10 like you can today, 20 married. So get your loans while you can, you probably won't always be able to get 10 loans. We'll start with loan types that are more for beginners, and then we'll get to advanced material. Let's welcome back one of our favorite recurring guests. Keith Weinhold 16:54 You can make millions more throughout your life by understanding mortgage loans. This is key, and today it's the return of the woman that's created more financial freedom through real estate than any other lender in the entire nation, because she's the president of ridge lender group. Hey, it's time for a big welcome back to the incomparable, yet somehow still so approachable Chaley Ridge Caeli Ridge 17:16 my Keith, thank you for having me. I love being here. I love what you're doing. It's my pleasure, sir. Keith Weinhold 17:23 And our followers, our listeners, have been approaching you since 2015 you're one of the longest running guests, truly one of the OGS around here at GRE and now Caeli, before we discuss loan types. You know, we don't really talk politics on this show rather policies, and we're in the midst of a presidential administration that often, in the name of the word affordability, is trying to supremely shake things up in the housing market. Help us dissect what matters and what won't. Caeli Ridge 17:58 I have found that at least as it relates to current administration, whoever that might be, I wait for the buzzwords or the taglines to become the actual policy. Like you said, That's a good point in this case. You know, you've got things floating around, like the 50 year mortgage cutting off the hedge fund guys and that kind of thing. Whether or not, those things come to fruition. I'm happy to give my opinion on them. I do not think that it's going to move the needle much for the people that you and I serve with regard to I mean, just taking them one at a time, I don't think that the 50 year is going to come to fruition. Just first and foremost, if it did do, I think it would be a good idea for a homeowner, probably not, but for an investor, maybe if there's some way that we can keep our payment lower, given the maturity date of a mortgage for an investment property is usually about five years. I mean, I know that this is a 30 year fixed mortgage, but statistically speaking, the average shelf life of a non owner occupied mortgage is about five years. So getting a 50 year amortization, if that were going to reduce the payment, I don't think is a bad thing for an investor, however, and this may get a little bit technical for the listeners, so I apologize in advance if we were to go to a 50 Year am the adjustments, something called, and you and I have talked about this before, something called an llpa, that stands for loan level price adjustment, I think would be such that it could end up defeating the purpose of having the longer term amortization, because I think the interest rates would be higher and I think they may offset so that was a long way to say. One, I don't think it's going to happen. I don't think it's actually going to get to its final resting place. And two, would it be a good idea for investors, yeah, I think it would be worth considering if it kept the payment lower. Okay, that's that as the other piece to cutting off the hedge funds, the big, you know, BlackRock, some of the big players, and giving them access to the residential housing and first right of infusion or etc, because they've got such deep pockets. You. It's such a small amount to what our individual investors are going to have access to that I don't think that that moves the needle either. So I don't know if I'm answering the question, except to say anything that they're going to tout, I would wait for it to actually become written in stone and pass by the rest of the powers that be before I would get excited about or concerned about any of it. Keith Weinhold 20:21 This is pretty parallel with what I've been telling our listeners. All these things seem to make splashy news, but I haven't seen anything that's going to make a deep impact yet, whether it's the 50 year mortgage, which probably won't even come to fruition, or if it's doing these mortgage bond buy downs in order to bring more liquidity into the market and bring rates down, or if it sees any of these other things being discussed with these institutional investors, since they already own such a smaller proportion of the housing market than a lot of people think, we'll discuss seasoned real estate investors and their loans shortly, but first for newer real estate investors, you Know, chili, I kind of think of four or more loan types that a beginner should be familiar with. I think of conventional loans, dscrs, fix and flips and then bridge loans, the first one with conventional loans. What are the basics that someone should know? Caeli Ridge 21:17 So first of all, you should know that there are 10 of these. We call them the golden tickets. I'm pretty sure I coined this, okay, 100 years ago, the golden ticket. We call the conventional aka Fannie Freddie, aka agency. They go by different names, but they all mean the same thing. We call them the golden tickets because it's the highest leverage and typically at the lowest interest rate you can find. Now I do have a hook in our conversation today about that. I'll get we'll get to it. There are 10 of these per qualified individual. So one of the first things that I would tell somebody is, is that if they are a partnership or a husband and wife team, you want to make sure to keep the debt obligation separate, because if you want to maximize these golden tickets, let's just say it's a husband and wife team. You each have, per qualification access to 10, and that includes a primary residence. In fact, let me just take a quick second and define what counts in the 10, because some people get this wrong. So the 10 golden tickets are counted by any residential property, single family, up to four Plex that has a loan on it, where the loan is in the individual name or personally guaranteed by the individual. That's where people get tied up. So if they went out and got a kind of more of a commercial type loan, that was in an LLC name, for example, but they signed a personal guarantee, per Fannie Freddie guidelines, that particular mortgage is going to count against the 10. So those would be some of the first pieces of news or detail I would give them about conventional Keith Weinhold 22:40 for married couples, don't take ownership in both the husband and wife's name, either the husband or the wife. That way, you can get to 20 rather than 10. And yes, you do have to be mindful that your primary residence does count in that 10 or 20, whatever it might be. Anything else quickly with conventional loans, LTVs so on, Caeli Ridge 23:01 yeah, LTV can go to 85% loan to value. So you get a little bit extra than you're going to get in some of the other loan product types. It will have PMI, private mortgage insurance, anything over 80% LTV will always have PMI on a more conforming, conventional basis. So keep that in mind. But the factor is pretty low. I would encourage people that are looking to stretch the almighty dollar. Do the math. Look at the 85 with PMI against, say, an 80% and see what are you giving up versus what you're getting. And then qualification stuff, you guys, my dumb joke, it's Keith's favorite. I'm sure vials of blood and DNA samples are sort of required for the Fannie Freddie loans. So just be prepared to supply or submit us the tax returns and pay stubs and bank statements and and all that stuff, Keith Weinhold 23:44 you'll feel like you're getting fingerprinted almost for a conventional loan qualification. And the second one that I brought up DSCR loans, that's short for debt service coverage ratio. And these mortgages are pretty standard for rental properties. They're underwritten based on a property's income potential. So you know, the way I think of dscrs Chaley from the lender's perspective, is that sustainable cash flow is what matters. The rent has got to support the property's monthly mortgage payments. So we talked to us more about dscrs. Caeli Ridge 24:15 Yeah, I love this product, and this is for somebody that either can't fit into the conventional Fannie Freddie box, or maybe they've exhausted their golden tickets and they're graduating and moving on. This is a great option that will reduce the amount of vials of blood and DNA samples that you're going to have to submit. It still provides for a 30 year fixed mortgage. The leverage is roughly the same, 80% in most cases, on a purchase. And to your point, the gross income divided by the principal, interest, taxes, insurance and Hoa, if it's applicable, is the simple formula, the easy method I'll give people, just to kind of solidify that math, is that if the gross rents were $1,000 a month, and if the PI TI was $1,000 a month, when you divide that, your debt service is 1.0 Now you can go as low, believe it or not, as low as a point seven, five, DSCR, they have those available be ready for the interest rate to get a little hair on it. Okay, it's going to be higher than what the 1.0 and above is going to be. But you can go as low as point seven, five, those are going to be for the investors that have found a property, maybe in distress, and they cannot show the current market value rent, perhaps, and it's on the low end. So you can still get that done at point seven, five, just be ready for a higher interest rate. Keith Weinhold 25:30 So the DSCR loan an alternative for you, which might be especially useful, like Chaley touched on, if you've already exhausted your 10 golden ticket. Fannie Freddie loans, a DSCR of 1.2 for example, means that your rent income needs to exceed your principal, interest, taxes and insurance payment by 20% or more. That's what we're talking about here. And then Chile, those were more of loans for the buy and hold type of investor. Tell us about fix and flip loans. Caeli Ridge 26:03 Yeah. So these are shorter term loan that will allow you to include not just the purchase of the property, but also some renovation or rehab money if you need that. And we're going to be looking at an ARV after repair value. So you've got a purchase price, you've got your renovation or scope of work budget. And then we're looking for an ARV with the ARV to be somewhere around 75% so what that means, if you've not heard of this before, you're going to take, let's say, $100,000 value. And if we want the ARV to be at 75% we're going to lend 75,000 is kind of the mix there. Those are quicker loans. You're going to be paying much higher rates on those. You know, between nine and 13% depending on the deal. The points are also going to be a little bit higher, but a great option for that quick turn and burn where you know your deal has enough skin in it and you can recapture all your capital and make a good tidy profit on it. Keith Weinhold 26:53 We're talking about basically fixer upper loans here with Chaley Ridge, the president of ridge lending group, yes, these are jalopies that rarely qualify for traditional bank financing. And oftentimes, when I think about these fix and flip loans, I'm thinking that often there is interest only flexibility with regard to those higher interest rates that you need to pay. And I think of it as, you know, a shorter term loan that you've got during your renovation period, oftentimes 12 to 18 months. Does that sound about right? Caeli Ridge 27:24 Yeah, 6,18, even 24 months. And to your point, yes, all of these are going to be interest only. And one of the cool things is about these loans is, is that, if there's enough room in the deal, right, based on what you need to borrow and what we think the ARV is expected to be, you don't even actually have to be making those interest payments. You can build it into the final payout when we go to refinance you out of this short term loan, or you simply sell the property and pay off that loan. So for example, let's say that your interest only payment is $1,000 a month, okay? And the value of the property is going to be $200,000 and you only took 120 okay, we're going to be well within that 75% ARV. You can build in that $1,000 say, for 12 months, there's $12,000 and just add it to the outstanding balance that you started by owing, and not have to be making those payments on an ongoing basis. It's not rented, right? So it might be nice to be able to factor that in to the actual payoff when you go to refinance that if it's a fix and hold versus go to sell it on a fix and flip. Keith Weinhold 28:31 Now, long term, we know that the big gains for real estate investors really come from that leveraged appreciation getting that loan. But sometimes there are situations where we might want to act as a cash buyer. And that brings up this fourth of four loan types that I brought up, the bridge loan, short term loans that can temporarily finance a property purchase while you're waiting for a longer term loan to come through. The bridge loan, so I think of it as a pretty speedy loan, if you sort of want to act like you're an all cash buyer. Caeli Ridge 29:04 Yeah, I like this, and in many ways it's similar to a fix and flip interest only. Obviously the term is going to be shorter, six months, 12 months, up to 24 months, and based on largely relationship, the bridge loan for the purpose that you described, really comes into play for an investor that we know and we're comfortable with, we can fund those inside a week, for somebody that we've done several of these loans for. So for those that need that really quick turn, once you've established yourself as a seasoned, experienced investor in that space, those are pretty slick and easy to get through. Keith Weinhold 29:39 Why would someone use a bridge loan, rather than a fix and flip loan. Caeli Ridge 29:43 So if they're in a very competitive market, that might be another option, because those are going to be faster. The bridge loan is going to be faster where they need to say that they're an all cash buyer and they only need seven days to close, or whatever it is. It depends on the municipality in the state. But what if you're at the courthouse steps? And you need cash quickly. Sometimes it needs to be immediate. So that might not be applicable in this case, but if you put the bid in, and you win the bid, and you've got, you know, three days to perform, usually we can get those done. So it's circumstantial. Those would be two variables or two scenarios that that would apply to Keith Weinhold 30:17 the bridge loan gives you the advantage of speed, but that speed can come at a cost. Caeli Ridge 30:22 Oh yeah, yeah, you're going to be paying probably three points, maybe four points, and it's short term interest, 13, 14% Keith Weinhold 30:30 so with these four loan types that we've discussed, conventional DSCR, fix and flip and bridge loans, you can kind of see that there is a loan for most every investment scenario, and there's no reason to rely on only one type, a flipper. Might start with a short term fix and flip loan or a bridge loan and then later refinance to a DSCR or a conventional loan. So consider mixing and matching based on your needs. You're listening to get rich education. We're talking with Ridge leninger, President Taylor Ridge, more when we come back, including steps for more advanced investors, I'm your host. Keith Weinhold Keith Weinhold 31:06 mid south homebuyers with over two decades as the nation's highest rated turnkey provider, their empathetic property managers use your return on investment as their North Star. It's no wonder smart investors line up to get their completely renovated income properties like it's the newest iPhone, headquartered in Memphis, with their globally attractive cash flows, mid south has an A plus rating with a better business bureau and 4000 houses renovated. There is zero markup on maintenance. Let that sink in, and they average a 98.9% occupancy rate with an industry leading three and a half year average renter term. 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They help you build a long term plan for growing your real estate empire with leverage, start your pre qual and even chat with President chailey Ridge personally, while it's on your mind, start at Ridge lending group.com that's Ridge lending group.com Blair Singer 33:53 this is Rich Dad, sales advisor, Blair singer. Listen to get rich education with Keith Weinhold. And above all, don't quit your Daydream. Keith Weinhold 34:09 Welcome back to get rich education chili when we go beyond this beginner stage that we've been discussing, how about for an investor just trying to scale to 10 doors worth of one to four unit properties. Now, are there any strategies there or more of a loan order that you would recommend in getting up to your first 10 you know Caeli Ridge 34:29 I think the strategy starts with calling your lender, ideally Ridge lending group, and having that deep strategy call that, that discovery call, so that we can really understand and plant some seeds that say, Okay, Mr. Jones, these are your qualifications today. This is where you want to be in a year or 10 years. These are the steps that are going to be important that we are mindful of and we take to accomplish and reach those milestones. It's really important to have that baseline understanding of what is your debt to income ratio on day one, what are your assets? Sets. What is your credit? Where do you want to be in a year or 10 years? Right? Do you want 10 properties in a year's time? It's going to be a very different conversation than if you're going to slow roll this and want to establish 10 purchases or 10 investment properties over 10 years. So identifying those details is going to be part one, and then next, in terms of order, I would say, largely the higher price point properties, typically, I would say, put those in one through six. And the reason that I'm saying that is is that the underwriting guidelines under conventional financing, they will change based on how many finance properties you have. So of all of the inner working guidelines and things that go into securing a conventional mortgage loan, the three top most heavily weighted are going to be debt to income ratio, credit score and assets. Okay? And within each one of those, the marker or the qualification guideline changes as you evolve and acquire more property. So the higher up the ring you go, or the rung that you go to 10, the more restrictive the guidelines are going to be. So I would typically say, get the higher price point properties go into maybe one to four, one to six, if that's part of your strategy and your diversification of portfolio ownership. Then after you've established having two or three or four properties and that higher price point it as it gets harder to qualify, potentially, if your debt to income ratio is a little bit tight, you've got the smaller loan sizes that might be less impactful in debt to income ratio. All of this is very subjective to the individual's qualifications and needs, of course, but that might be one rule of thumb that I would take Keith Weinhold 36:39 gosh, this This is absolute gold in helping you structure the architecture of a growing income property portfolio. And we're coming up on this Super Bowl, and whatever mortgage lender advertises for the Super Bowl or has some big, splashy campaign nationally, you know they are not the ones that are going to have conversations like this for you, they might be fine for buying a primary residence, but this is why you want to have a long term strategy and work with a lender that's aligned with you on exactly that sort of thing. And Chaley, is there a specific way in which one can avoid hitting the Fannie Freddie loan ceilings too early if you haven't already touched on it. Caeli Ridge 37:22 Yeah, very good question. You know, I think that this is going to come down to a debt to income ratio conversation. It's easy enough to ensure that we contain assets and credit. Those are easier conversations. The debt to income ratio is the piece that's more complicated and can get away from an investor without them even knowing it. You don't know what you don't know, right? So I would say that debt to income ratio and making sure that your lender again, hopefully Ridge lending, because we know this like we know our own faces, making sure they know how to structure and provide feedback and consult on that schedule E, part of the beauty of real estate investing is the tax deductions. Right? Many people get into real estate investing, not for the cash flow, not even for the appreciation, but for that tax strategy, because they're high wage earners, or whatever it may be, and they're sick of paying x in taxes. So the debt to income ratio is key in scaling and making sure you can continue to qualify for those loans. The conversations that we have with our clients really go deep about where we can maximize our deductions to ensure that we get the tax benefit without precluding our qualification on a conventional underwriting basis in the DTI category. Keith Weinhold 38:35 Now, during my growth as an investor, when I got above 10 doors, one gets above 20 doors. When one gets to 216 doors, I began where I needed to qualify more on a DSCR basis, where the lender is looking at the properties qualification, more so than me. So are there any other thoughts with regard to how one can set themselves up for success in really going big and well beyond 10 doors Caeli Ridge 39:03 absolutely so once we've exhausted the Fannie Freddie, and I think one of the real value adds about Ridge is that we are not a one size fits all, and we are extremely holistic versus transactional. So having that first conversation and understanding what those goals are, so that we can pivot as we need to maximize the golden tickets, whether that be 10 to 20, right? If you're in a marriage or a partnership or whatever, and then setting up for the DSCR loans when the time comes, and taking advantage of those, there is no limit to how many DSCR loans we can get for one individual. We have yet to file an individual that we've had to say no, and we've done quite a few of the high, high acquisition investors, so I don't expect that to be an issue, but yeah, I think it's about planning, planting those seeds, creating roadmaps together and have those smart discovery conversations. Keith Weinhold 39:50 Now, as you grow, one way you might diversify is to have perhaps at least a part of your portfolio in short term rentals. So what I. Comes to getting loans for sort of Airbnb or VRBO type properties. What does one look for there? How much does the landscape change versus the longer term rentals that we've mostly been talking about here? Caeli Ridge 40:10 Yeah, I think that the differences are going to be about purchase versus refinance. If we're just talking about purchases, let's kind of try to keep it in one lane. If we're talking about purchasing a short term rental, you may be limited on leverage. You might lose a little bit of leverage, 5% let's say you could get to 75% and maybe on a short term they're going to back it off to 70% LTV, so there may be reduction in that loan to value. And the way in which we're going to quantify the income is absolutely important to share with your listeners on a purchase transaction, we have access to things like an appraisal. An appraisal is going to give us some median rental income, whether it be long term or short term, that we will use to offset a new mortgage payment if that's needed for the individual's debt to income ratio qualification. Now, if they don't need the rental income to qualify, then it's a non issue. But if they do, like most of us, need that rental income to absorb this new mortgage payment that we are securing for them, how that's going to quantify is important. So if it's not in a short term rental area, let's just say it's kind of off the beaten path, and there may not be enough data points to support the income that you need. It's important to know that up front versus way down the rabbit hole, when you paid for appraisals and you're all the way through the transaction and earnest money might be off the table if you had to cancel that kind of thing. So really important to understand the numbers in advance, I would say, when we talk about short term rentals and how the income is going to be quantified from an underwriting perspective, Keith Weinhold 41:43 why does a borrower often need to make a higher down payment on a short term rental than they do a long term rental? Caeli Ridge 41:49 You know, I think that in secondary markets, as we talk about mortgage backed securities and things like that, it's looked at as a higher risk. A short term rental is going to be a higher risk than just the stable long term, long burn tenant is going to be there and they've got their lease for a year, two years or whatever, at a time, the short term rental is more volatile and it's seasonal. It can be I mean, there's all those different factors, so higher risk means more skin in the game for the investor. Keith Weinhold 42:13 That makes a lot of sense. Does that higher risk also translate into a higher mortgage rate for short term rentals than long term rentals? Caeli Ridge 42:18 Fannie Freddie versus DSCR The answer is no. On the Fannie Freddie side, the interest rate's not going to change on a DSCR loan. Yes, it can be slightly higher, usually about about a quarter of a percentage point on a short term versus a long term. Keith Weinhold 42:33 Now, are there any particular markets that lenders want to avoid with short term rental loans? Caeli Ridge 42:39 No, as long as the property is habitable, and all the other metrics fit Qualifications and Credit and assets and all that stuff. No, there isn't a market that we're going to have any issues with now. We do get the notifications for natural disaster areas, and as that relates to the appraisal and things like that, if it's in a natural disaster area or zone, we may have to hold funding until after the disaster is over, and then we can go and take more pictures and make sure it's still standing and there's no major issues. But otherwise, aside from that, as long as it's habitable, no, there is no market restriction. Keith Weinhold 43:12 Yes, with that variability of income for short term rentals, you can understand how a lender would be more careful in making a loan, and would want you, the borrower, to put more skin in the game for a short term rental. Well, Caeli, overall, what should an investor do in the next 24 hours to make themselves more lendable before contacting someone like you? Caeli Ridge 43:36 I would say the answer is sticky, but call rich lending group. That's how you're going to make yourself more lendable. And the reason that I can say that is is that everybody's qualifications and needs and goals are inherently different. So calling someone that understands this landscape and can navigate the battleship in the creek like I like to say, that's the visual aid for those of you that need the visual is the first key. And with that conversation, we're going to be able to identify for you specifically what you would need to do to become more lendable. And it may be nothing Keith Weinhold 44:07 well over there, Chaley, you're growing. You do loans in almost all 50 states. The GRE podcast has more than 5.8 million listener downloads, and you have helped countless GRE listeners acquire smart investor loans for fully a decade now. Just amazing. So talk to us about all of the loan types that you offer investors there at ridge. Caeli Ridge 44:30 My gosh. Okay, so I think one of the real value adds for us is that we have such a diverse menu of loan products. We touched on a few of them already. So we've got the conventional Fannie Mae Freddie, Mac stuff. We've got our DSCR loans. We have bank statement loans, asset depletion loans. I can touch on those if you want. Keith, we have our short term bridge fix and flip. We have our All In One my favorite, first lien, HELOC we have second lien HELOCs. We have commercial loan products, and commercial can apply to residential and commercial property. A cross collateralization, commercial for residential properties. That just means, if you're putting 10 single families into one blanket loan, that would be cross collateralization, or if you're buying a storage unit that's straight commercial, and probably even more than that, ground up construction, there's really not a limit to the loan products that we offer, specifically for investors. The only thing we don't have, I would say in our arsenal is bare land loans. Those are hard to come by Keith Weinhold 45:24 It sounds like you recommend a call in order to get some of that back and forth, to learn how you can best help that investor. But tell us about all the ways that someone Caeli Ridge 45:32 can get a hold of you. Yes, there's a few ways. Of course, our website, ridgeline group.com, you can call us toll free at 855-747434385, 747-434-3855, 74, Ridge. Or feel free to email us info at Ridge lending group.com Keith Weinhold 45:49 and you might get lucky. Hey, spin the wheel. Chaele does get on the phone and talk to individual investors herself too. So Chaley, it's been valuable as always to cover all these different loan types for beginners, and then what one does when they advance beyond that. It's been great having you back on the show. Caeli Ridge 46:09 Thank you, Keith. I appreciate you. Keith Weinhold 46:16 Oh yeah, a lot to learn from Chaley today. You've got mortgage rates three quarters to 1% lower than they were a year ago. At this time, in fact, last month, they ticked below 6% for the first time in years, and their lowest level in over three years. But when you introduce geopolitical uncertainty, well, that tends to make rates tick up again. Now, just what does happen when you have a lower overall rate trend like we have? Well, in this cycle, it's already spurred an increase in housing sales volume. It surged to 4.3 5 million in the latest reporting month, and that is the hottest annualized pace in nearly three years. Some of the same people who said, wait until rates fall, they're about to realize that prices didn't wait. Demand comes back fast. Inventory doesn't if mortgage rates take another leg lower, we could see quite a refinance wave in balanced markets or in supply constrained markets, bidding wars could follow. Now I've shared with you before that I totally do not predict interest rates. I don't know if anyone should. It is a great way to be fantastically wrong and supremely waste a lot of people's time. Instead, I think it's more efficacious for you to be able to interpret the signs that can trigger a further rate drop. Those signs are a weak jobs report that tends to bring lower rates because the labor market needs the help. So does softening wage growth, GDP below expectations, inflation continuing to cool, or a pickup in US Treasury demand. These are all signs that can lead to even lower rates. In fact, right now, with already lower rates and higher wages, real estate is more affordable than it's been in about three years, but overall, longer term, yeah, income properties still feel somewhat less affordable. It's less affordable than it was in pre pandemic times. That's for real for US investors, though, affordability is less about the price of the property, it's about whether the property pays for itself and grows your net worth while inflation does the heavy lifting for you, that's why it still works for us as investors. Higher prices don't kill investors inaction during inflation does you're not so much buying a say, 350k property. You're controlling it with 70k while your tenant and inflation do the rest. We don't rely on hope or appreciation. We start with inflation, tax benefits and debt pay down, and then appreciation typically happens too. A lot of times, the question for us goes beyond whether or not a property is affordable. The question is whether owning an investment property is better than inflation compounding against us, which is an investor mindset for this era, Ridge landing gear. President Chaley Ridge is a regular guest here because the mortgage space is so dynamic and things change a lot. For that reason, we expect to have her with us every few months this year, I'll see you next week. I'm your host. Keith Weinhold, don't quit your Daydream. Speaker 2 50:01 Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of get rich Education LLC, exclusively Keith Weinhold 50:30 The preceding program was brought to you by your home for wealth building, getricheducation.com
In this episode, I'm joined again by Ben Lake to talk through one of the most common real-world challenges we see with clients: needing liquidity, fast. Whether it's a house that suddenly comes on the market, a business opportunity, or a life event that wasn't neatly planned for, most people eventually face the question, “How do I actually get dollars out of my balance sheet?”We dig into borrowing strategies. HELOCs, margin loans, pledged asset lines, and when each one makes sense. We also spend time on box spread loans, how they work, why they're becoming more common for high-net-worth households, and how they can dramatically change the after-tax cost of borrowing.
Nobody wants debt. But sometimes life forces the issue. In this episode, Pete, Damian, and Kristen tackle a reality most people face at some point: needing cash quickly. This isn't an endorsement of borrowing and it's definitely not a how-to. It's a ranking of consequences—a clear-eyed look at which debt options hurt the least, which ones quietly wreck your future, and which should be avoided almost entirely. The conversation starts with why people reach for the fastest money instead of the smartest option. Stress, fear, and urgency push otherwise rational people into bad decisions—especially during emergencies, income gaps, or unexpected medical or home expenses. The goal here isn't perfection; it's minimizing damage when options are limited. From there, the team works through a tiered ranking: The least bad (situational) options, like already-open HELOCs and family loans—tools that can work, but only with serious guardrails and clear boundaries. The middle ground, including personal loans and 401(k) loans, where predictability and structure help—but behavioral traps and long-term costs still loom. The high-risk zone, where credit cards, payday loans, and title loans turn short-term problems into long-term financial pain. Along the way, they break down why “easy” money is usually the most expensive, how minimum payments create dangerous illusions, and why slowing the decision—even briefly—can be the biggest financial win. If you've ever thought, “I just need some cash to get through this,” this episode helps you ask a better question: Which mistake does the least damage—and which ones should never be on the table? Plus, the episode wraps with BWOM and the latest financial news.
#674: Welcome to Greatest Hits Week – five days, five episodes from our vault, spelling out F-I-I-R-E. Today's letter R stands for Real Estate. This episode originally aired in May 2022, but the insights on long-distance investing remain just as relevant for anyone feeling priced out of their local market. We tackle the five biggest challenges of investing far from home – from fear of the unknown to managing contractors remotely – and reveal four compelling benefits that make it worth the effort, especially when you're competing in markets where million-dollar properties are the norm. ________ Remember when inflation was high and rates were rising? What were people saying about real estate back then? And with the benefit of hindsight, how much of what we thought at the time proved to be correct? If you feel unsettled, join the club. At this present moment – December 2025 – interest rates are falling, but not enough. Inflation is mostly under control, but not enough. The noise makes everything feel new. When you only see the present moment, everything looks obvious. When you remember the past, patterns start to show. That's why we're rewinding the clock back to May 2022 – when interest rates were rising and inflation was near its peak. So what was on our mind three years ago? We start with the basics. Why the Federal Reserve raises rates. What higher borrowing costs do to spending. Why falling stock prices often reflect fear – not proof that housing prices must fall next. We explain the difference between recession and deflation, and why the two are often confused. We walk through what made the housing market in 2022 different from 2008. Inventory was tight. Builders had not overbuilt. Many homeowners held fixed-rate mortgages and record levels of equity. Those conditions mattered then. They still matter now. That equity becomes the next focus. We talk about cash-out refinances, HELOCs, and reverse mortgages – and what happens when homeowners borrow against rising values. You hear how higher rates can slow borrowing, why that matters for inflation, and what risks appear if some borrowers struggle to repay. From there, we outline four ways investors might encounter properties if foreclosures rise: bank-owned homes, short sales, “subject to” deals, and wraparound mortgages. The episode then shifts to long-distance real estate investing. You hear the real challenges. Fear of the unknown. Managing people you cannot see. Contractors who disappear. Agents who stop returning calls. You also hear what makes distance workable: education, relationships, local investor networks. We walk through how investors think when conditions feel unstable — and why looking backward sharpens how you see what comes next. Timestamps: Note: Timestamps will vary on individual listening devices based on dynamic advertising run times. The provided timestamps are approximate and may be several minutes off due to changing ad lengths. (0:00) Trade-offs and priorities (07:41) Fed hikes rates (09:16) Inflation drivers explained (11:26) Recession vs housing (13:21) Home equity surge (15:21) Borrowing against equity (17:11) Foreclosures and options (18:26) Subject-to and wraps (21:11) Shift to distance investing (25:31) Education and networks (31:36) Choosing markets (36:11) Accountability challenges Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices