Podcasts about helocs

Episode 567 Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White, sits down with Jerry Byers to uncover a golden opportunity that's catching many LOs by surprise — homeowners whose HELOCs are now resetting. These borrowers are about to experience a major payment shock, and most don't even realize it's coming. Carl and Jerry break down how you can identify these homeowners (even if you didn't do the original loan), what to say when you reach out, and how to offer solutions that truly help — while also adding to your monthly volume. If you're looking for a timely, targeted way to generate refinance business in today's market, this episode maps out the exact strategy that top producers are already using. Schedule a one-on-one free coaching call, click here or visit LoanOfficerStrategyCall.com.

Segment Teaser – This week on Go Gaddis Real Estate Radio, we're bringing you the latest Metro Atlanta real estate update, spotlighting an exciting new driverless transit innovation, and tackling an important listener question: Are HELOCs a hidden fraud risk?

Myka flies solo this week while Steve's away, dropping unfiltered insight into today's buyer's market, why some long-term rentals no longer cash flow, and how the Midwest and Deep South are still winning. He breaks down his latest duplex deal, utilizing business lines of credit and HELOCs from Wells Fargo and PNC, and discusses why self-management is crucial right now. From DSCR lending risks to the truth about AirDNA projections and STR tax loophole traps—this is a masterclass for investors navigating the evolving real estate game.

You can still get rich buying “boring” rental properties. Today's guest pockets $6,800 in pure cash flow every month and is building an enormous amount of equity in four small multifamily rentals, and he's not doing anything YOU can't do. You don't need a ton of money or even the flashiest investing strategy—you just need to get started and play the long game! Welcome back to the Real Estate Rookie podcast! Ryan Allsop hated paying rent—so much so that he bought his first rental property without really knowing what he was doing. But with some rookie-level analysis and savvy networking, Ryan found that first duplex, which has been his “cash cow” ever since. Then, Ryan used home equity lines of credit (HELOCs) to scale a real estate portfolio that delivers nearly $7,000 in combined monthly cash flow! Want to copy Ryan's success? In this episode, he'll show you the steps he took to go from complete beginner to confident investor in no time. You'll learn about the real power behind buy and hold investing, a lucrative Airbnb side hustle you can use to fund deals faster, and a surprisingly effective way to negotiate with sellers—without ever picking up the phone! In This Episode We Cover How Ryan makes $6,800 in monthly cash flow with just four rental properties Using the buy and hold strategy and “delayed gratification” to pay your future self Scaling your real estate portfolio through home equity lines of credit (HELOCs) Critical mistakes to avoid when hiring a contractor for your renovation projects The easiest (and cheapest!) way to find off-market properties for sale Living for free by having someone else pay down your mortgage for you And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BiggerPockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/rookie-587 Interested in learning more about today's sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠advertise@biggerpockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Homeowners have access to a record-breaking $35 trillion in home equity. With interest rates uncomfortably high, tapping into that wealth has become complicated. Traditional options like HELOCs and second mortgages are expensive, and new companies are pushing "Home Equity Investments" (HEIs)—deals that often seem too good to be true. On this episode, we break down all your options for accessing your home equity, from understanding the risks of HEIs to exploring the pros and cons of reverse mortgages, HELOCs, and traditional second mortgages. Learn how to unlock your home's cash without risking your financial future.

Is your home equity working as hard as you are? Today on Real Estate Radio Live, host Joe Cucchiara and Jack Russo unpack why HELOCs are fast becoming the ultimate secret weapon for savvy homeowners and investors alike. From prime-minus rates to credit-card-style access, HELOCs are opening doors for debt consolidation, investment funding, and smoother cash flow. Joe and Jack dig into how rising interest rates, shifting consumer spending, and the Federal Reserve's moves are shaking up real estate and lending markets. They also weigh in on how AI could transform the job landscape and the broader economy. Whether you're navigating your first HELOC or planning your next big financial move, this episode is loaded with insights to keep you ahead of the curve!   To learn more, simply visit www.RERadioLive.com. All the information in this podcast is broadcast in good faith and for general information purpose only. We do not make any warranties about the completeness, reliability and accuracy of this information. Any action you take upon the information on our website is strictly at your own risk.  We will not be liable for any losses and damages in connection with the use of associated information. www.reradiolive.com All Rights Reserved. Copyright 2015. Joe Cucchiara MLO 273084 This is not a commitment to lend. Our team fully supports the principles of the Fair Housing Act and the Equal Opportunity Act. For more information, please visit: http://portal.hud.gov/.  

Could your home's equity be the secret weapon in your financial toolkit? Host Jack Russo and Joe Cucchiara unpack the power of Home Equity Lines of Credit (HELOCs) and why they're surging in popularity. With flexible borrowing, prime-minus rates, and credit-card-style access, HELOCs are reshaping financial strategies. They explore how rising interest rates, economic uncertainty, and shifting spending habits are impacting real estate, lending, and vehicle leasing. From leveraging HELOCs for investments to consolidating debt and keeping cash flowing, the conversation delivers sharp insight into modern financial tools. Plus, a look at AI's potential impact on jobs and the broader economy. Don't miss this fast-paced dive into smart money moves!   https://www.shortlysts.com/ Jack Russo Managing Partner Jrusso@computerlaw.com www.computerlaw.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackrusso "Every Entrepreneur Imagines a Better World"®️  

Have you ever dreamed of owning a cabin in the woods or maybe a cozy lakeside retreat? Whether you spent the Fourth of July at someone else's cabin or you're just starting to imagine your own, this episode is your guide to turning that dream into something real.   We break down what it really takes to own a cabin, from deciding how you'll use it (personal oasis or rental income stream?) to exploring creative financing strategies like HELOCs, local banks, and even rent-to-own models. Plus, we dive into how to make your property pay for itself—and why thinking outside the box (hello, barndominiums!) can lead to surprising possibilities.   If you've been waiting for a sign to start your cabin journey, this is it. Let's make your getaway goals more than a daydream.

When's the best time to buy a house? What's a HELOC? What if waiting gets me a better deal or mortgage rate? How do I know what the right decision will be for the future? These are common questions that Dave receives and on episode #436 of “Let's Talk Money with Dave and Reb”, he explores the nuances of feeling paralyzed by waiting for the economy while trying to make the best decision possible. The co-hosts examine the swings of the housing market and encourage listeners to make decisions informed by their current finances then trusting God with the future. Tune in to the show today to hear their conversation which is sponsored by Financial Discipleship Canada and notmine.ca—a ministry to the body of Christ that voices and encourages dialogue and new conversations regarding finance and discipleship. To learn how you can connect your finances to being a disciple of Christ go to https://www.financialdiscipleship.ca/. To order Reb's book, Cultivating Trust Expanded Edition: Finding God's Hope and Freedom for Your Finances, go to Cultivating Trust Expanded Edition. To listen to the audiobook please find it here: Cultivating Trust Audiobook #morethanenough #finances #money #financialfitness #mortgages #housing #HELOC

Discover how house hacking can eliminate your housing costs and accelerate wealth-building. Watch Dan McDonald explain leveraging properties, financing smartly, and turning your home into an income-producing asset.See full article: https://www.unitedstatesrealestateinvestor.com/the-ultimate-real-estate-shortcut-to-wealth-and-freedom-through-house-hacking-with-dan-mcdonald/(00:00) - Welcome to The REI Agent Podcast with Mattias and Erica(00:06) - Introduction to Guest: Dan McDonald, House Hacking Expert(00:24) - What is House Hacking and Why It's a Game-Changer(01:09) - Dan's Personal House Hacking Journey and Lessons Learned(12:05) - The Psychology Behind Real Estate Investing Decisions(14:54) - Understanding the Boston Housing Market and House Hacking Costs(18:49) - Why House Hacking Works Even in Expensive Markets(22:15) - Leveraging Debt, Building Equity, and Smart Investment Strategies(30:12) - HELOCs and the Power of Using Home Equity for Growth(35:08) - Dan's Passion for Helping Others Get Started in House Hacking(37:22) - Breaking Down the Numbers: Rent vs. House Hacking Costs(42:10) - The Reality of Finding a Duplex for House Hacking(44:57) - Short-Term and Mid-Term Rentals: Are They Worth It?(48:04) - The Importance of Having a Backup Strategy in Real Estate(50:45) - BRRRR Strategy and Using Equity to Fund Future Investments(54:00) - Final Advice: House Hacking as the Best First Step in Real Estate(55:00) - Dan's Recommended Books for Real Estate Investors(57:52) - Where to Follow Dan McDonald for More House Hacking Insights(58:37) - Closing Thoughts and Final Words from Mattias and EricaContact Dan McDonaldTotal Retreat SolutionsHouse Hack & HustleInstagramLinkTreeVisit reiagent.com for more great content!

In this episode of Real Estate News for Investors, we're joined by lending expert Caeli Ridge to unpack two powerful tools for real estate investors: HELOCs (Home Equity Lines of Credit) and the increasingly popular All-in-One Loan. Caeli breaks down how each product works, when and why investors are turning to them in today's high-rate environment, and how they differ from cash out refis and fixed mortgages. Learn how savvy investors are using HELOCs to scale their portfolios, how the All-in-One Loan merges banking and borrowing into one streamlined account, and what to watch out for with variable interest rates. If you're looking to unlock equity without selling your property, this episode is for you. LINKS CHECK OUT OUR NEW WEBSITE & BECOME A MEMBER (IT'S FREE)! https://realwealth.com/join-step-1 FOLLOW OUR PODCASTS The Real Wealth Show: Real Estate Investing Podcast https://link.chtbl.com/RWS Real Estate News: Real Estate Investing Podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/REN FREE RealWealth® EDUCATION & TOOLS RealWealth Market Reports: https://realwealth.com/learn/best-places-to-buy-rental-property/ RealWealth Videos: https://realwealth.com/category/video/ RealWealth Assessment™: https://realwealth.com/assessment/ RealWealth® Webinars: https://realwealth.com/webinars/ READ BOOKS BY RealWealth® FOUNDERS The Wise Investor by Rich Fettke: https://tinyurl.com/thewiseinvestorbook Retire Rich with Rentals by Kathy Fettke: https://tinyurl.com/retirerichwithrentals Scaling Smart by Rich & Kathy Fettke: https://tinyurl.com/scalingsmart

Keith discusses the evolution of the real estate market over the past five years, highlighting a 43% price surge from March 2020 to June 2022 due to low mortgage rates, remote work, and government stimulus. By 2024, single-family home prices stabilized, but apartment values dropped by 30%.  Mortgage rates have remained around 6-7.5% for 20 months, with national home prices rising 2% in the past year.  We introduce two listener guests: Josh Fang, a 28-year-old investor who bought five properties using his income from a mortgage loan officer job, and Nate O'Neil, an experienced investor who leveraged his corporate job to fund his real estate portfolio.  Show Notes: GetRichEducation.com/560 For access to properties or free help with a GRE Investment Coach, start here: GREmarketplace.com GRE Free Investment Coaching: GREinvestmentcoach.com Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE  or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Invest with Freedom Family Investments.  You get paid first: Text FAMILY to 66866 Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search “how to leave an Apple Podcasts review”  For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— text ‘GRE' to 66866 Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript:   Automatically Transcribed With Otter.ai  Keith Weinhold  0:01   Welcome to GRE. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold, over the past five years, the real estate market has changed forever. So what are you supposed to do now? Then I talked to two GRE listener guests back to back. Here's some relatable stories this week on get rich education.    Mid south home buyers. I mean, they're total pros, with over two decades as the nation's highest rated turnkey provider, their empathetic property managers use your ROI as their North Star. So it's no wonder that smart investors just keep lining up to get their completely renovated income properties like it's the newest iPhone. They're headquartered in Memphis, and have globally attractive cash flows, an A plus rating with a better business bureau and now over 5000 houses renovated. There's zero markup on maintenance. Let that sink in, and they average a 98.9% occupancy rate, while their average renter stays more than three and a half years. Every home they offer has brand new components, a bumper to bumper, one year warranty, new 30 year roofs. And wait for it, a high quality renter. Remember that part and in an astounding price range, 100 to 180k I've personally toured their office and their properties in person in Memphis. Get to know Mid South. Enjoy cash flow from day one. Start yourself right now at mid southhomebuyers.com that's mid south homebuyers.com.   Speaker 1  1:48   You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is get rich education. You   Keith Weinhold  1:58   Keith, welcome to GRE from Augusta Maine to Augusta Georgia and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Weinhold, and you are back inside get rich education if you got trapped in a cave back in 2020, and then you came above ground into the sunlight of 2025 and wondered what happened to the real estate investment market over the last five years. Here's the answer, and what it means to you, even if you weren't trapped in a cave, and I sure hope you didn't have to fight off a bat colony either. During the pandemic housing boom of 2020, to 2022 housing demand soared, in fact, from March of 2020, to June of 2022, prices surged a staggering 43% and rents ballooned too. And that was all amidst a few things, ultra low mortgage rates, a remote work boom and government stimulus. And for many, this unlocked Americans work from anywhere arbitrage. High earners were able to keep their income in, say, New York City or LA, pack up their laptop and head for state income tax free havens like Tampa or Nashville, and builders could not keep up. See housing supply, stock is not as elastic as demand. It's like steering a cruise ship. It doesn't turn out a dime. Inventory was drained, and you know, we had a full on housing supply crash that dipped to its Nadir in February of 2022 but just after that, all types of interest rates spiked later in 2022 to help stifle rising inflation, and what that did is that that quickly quelled homeowner affordability. Return to Office mandates began to gain momentum. National housing demand pulled back a near 180 was quickly underway. Sales volume tanked, and that put a lot of people in the industry out of business, realtors, mortgage loan officers, even furniture companies out of business by 2024 prices in the single family to fourplex space stabilized just with a slow growth rate, but apartment values lost as much as 30% from 2022 to 24 due to devastating interest rate resets under shorter term loans, and meanwhile, the income required to buy a modest starter home rose from 49k in 2020 to 101k last year. That's pretty NAR and the term forever renter became both a meme and a. Reality, and since construction, efforts to build have been uneven, apartment supply actually exceeds demand in a lot of markets, and over in the one to four unit space by adding inventory, there's now 30% more available year over year, but it remains under supplied nationally, especially like I've discussed in the Northeast and Midwest, where building has been meager to completely non existent. That's why it can still feel impossible to find a house in much of Ohio or New Jersey, but you can rent an apartment in Austin, Texas faster than you can get a Wendy's drive through order. Mortgage rates have now stayed in this same range of six to seven and a half for 20 months, and national home prices are up just about 2% in the past year. Now, when Trump began his second term in January of 2025 markets got giddy with business friendly optimism, but this Trump bump that reversed fast when he slapped half the planet with tariffs housing demand cooled again, because no one buys a house when they feel like their job might vanish, alright? So amidst all of that. How do you adjust your strategy with what's changed over the past five years? Well, real estate still pays five ways, and since you're not betting it all on price growth like you would be with most other asset classes, this way, you've always got a side to play with. Affordability down now, rental demand is heating up. With more inventory on the market for you to purchase, there are more motivated sellers, especially those shiny build to rent homes. You do still have to deal with mortgage rates that are higher than they were four or five years ago. Refinance on the rate dips if there's low inflation rates fall if there's high inflation, well, then your debt arose faster. So this is what I mean about you having the ability to play both sides today, and this is big, the number of renter households are at a record high, and they're rising. Landlords are giving fewer concessions. Increasingly, they hold the cards in the single family rental space and annual rent growth is expected to heat up from its current zero to 3% Well, what is next? Short term housing value should stay stable, but not sore, and don't count on a big mortgage rate drop at all for the rest of the year long term, expect more inflation in strong demographic demand. Those things are almost certainties, and that's the good part for real estate investors. So really the overall market report card today, let's grade it out in a report card, sellers are doing just okay. Buyers are strained. First time home buyers are in the worst, the roughest shape. I mean, they grade out at an F single family rental landlords are in good shape because people that want to buy a single family home can't, so they rent apartment landlords, they are strained, and renters are holding steady. They're doing pretty well until steeper rent increases kick in. So really, the bottom line here is that it's been a more tumultuous five years than usual. Housing demand lapse supply and now it's coming closer back into balance today, home prices are stable, the amount of buyers are waning, and the hordes of renters are growing. And where are we today? Well, earlier this month, our president called our Fed chair a numbskull.    Donald Trump  8:56   If we cut our interest by one point for years, we save 300 billion. If we cut it by two points, we save because it's pretty equivalent we're going to save, we're going to spend 600 billion a year. 600 billion because of one numb skull that sits here. I don't see enough reason to cut the rates now.   Keith Weinhold  9:21   oh dear leaving you with a little knee slapper on the five year summary there. Look poor and middle class people feel like everything is expensive. That's because they pay for everything with money they've exchanged their time for. That means they feel like they're paying for everything with their life, because they are and that's exactly why money feels like a scarce resource. Instead, real estate investors pay for things according to what our assets are producing for us and what other people's money is producing for us. And that's why we can pay for what we want, and money feels like an abundant resource, not a scarce one. That's what today's two listener guests discovered somewhere along their path, fueled by this show. Now sometimes I answer your listener questions here on the show when you write into us at get rich education.com/contact, other times, I bring listener guests right here onto the show. That's what we're doing today. Today's both happen to be based in California. The first guest is a young investor, and the second guest more experienced. These were just recorded. Understand they aren't professional speakers. And also, if you bear with a few early audio difficulties with our first guest, you're going to be rewarded with some relatable takeaways. Our first listener guest, Josh Fang, started listening to the get rich education podcast as a college student in 2016 or 17. He first heard episode 84 that's when Robert Kiyosaki made his first appearance here. That episode was called the rich don't work for money. Then he went back to Episode One and listened to them all, 560 episodes. Now let's meet him.   This week's GRE listener guest is a 28 year old real estate investor based out of Irvine, California. That's SoCal, and he has already reached what he calls semi work, optional status, fantastic. He's been a GRE listener since 2017 that was at age 20 when he was a junior in college. The GRE podcast inspired him to become a mortgage loan officer, and he's become a top performer at doing that, originating loans after graduating college. He used the money from that mortgage loan officer job starting at age 22 to buy five income properties, two through mid south home buyers and three elsewhere. By the way. Again, he's 28 now. GRE quite literally shaped his adult life, and having enough passive income to fully retire is pretty much his only goal. Now he's got passion for talking financial freedom through smart borrowing, strategic thinking and action over perfection. Oh, I love that. Hey, welcome to GRE. Josh Fang, thank you for having me. I really appreciate it here on the show, I talk about borrowing and lending a good bit, because if you're gonna make something of yourself, you need to leverage the efforts of others. So tell us about how you got your first job in the mortgage industry and how it set the foundation for your investing journey. Josh,   Josh Fang  12:31   when I graduated, it was really rough. I had a business degree which didn't really open up too many doors. At that time, I couldn't find a job for six months, I was just applying everywhere that I could. Now keep in mind this entire time, I'm looking for a job. I'm listening to your podcast, and you know, how can I the income and the money to purchase some rental properties for some passive income? And one company responded to my resume for a mortgage company. So I was able to get an interview, and I actually got the job by quoting, you know, mortgage guidelines that I learned from your podcast. Your Podcast, such as, for an FHA loan, you need three and a half percent down. For a conventional you need 20% down, just the most basic of the most basic mortgage guidelines. And actually was able to land a job, and in the very beginning, they start you off pretty much. I mean, as a telemarketer, it's pretty rough, long hours, you work weekends, I was making $17.48 at the time per hour, and with that basic income, the 17.48 an hour, I actually was able to buy my first rental property without even the two years work history. And the way I did that was by using my college degree as work history, because there is actually a guideline to where, if you have degree that is in the same field as where you work, it does actually be counting work history. And it was really funny at the time, I was living with my parents, another document that I needed to go through underwriting. I needed a letter from my dad, a signed letter from my dad saying I didn't pay rent because I was living at home. And off that 17.48, an hour, I was able to buy my first rental property. And from mid south home buyers, everyone there was so great. They were so helpful in helping me through the loan process, through selecting a property, and I was able to close. And the time that I bought my first rental I was only 22 years old.   Keith Weinhold  14:20   This is remarkable on a few levels, with just those few lines, about three and a half percent down FHA or 20% down conventional that sounded compelling enough for someone to want to give you an opportunity and then off that modest starting wage, how that really helped you accumulate to buy income property and yeah, when you're buying in those investor advantage places, those prices are low, but that's still pretty remarkable that you were able to do that. So talk to us some more about that, buying your first rental property at age 22 surely younger than most people about that process and the mindset and really that leap of faith that it takes Josh because most people are not doing this.   Josh Fang  15:00   Yeah, absolutely. And I think I had a really big leg up in terms of mindset, because I was starting to listen to your podcast when I was so young, when you're young and you're growing up and you're a young adult in college, you know, you hear from your teachers, your parents, your friends, older people, and they say, oh, invest in the stock market. Buy a primary residence to live in. And the big thing that I learned is I don't live in the same world as the world that my parents grew up in, and I can't invest the same as well. Great point there's, I live in Southern California. The medium house price of where I live in, in the city of Irvine, is $2 million yeah, that's ridiculous. I would never, ever be able to purchase a primary residence out here, and buying stocks are at all times highs. I mean, that's arguable, but I think stocks are quite overfit. So investing there didn't make too much sense. And what you always talked about in terms of building a second flow of income, having that be passive to where I don't need to work regularly, is what really motivated me to move towards that. And in terms of making the first step, I think the most important thing by far, is just setting a goal, saying at least for myself, it was, hey, I want to own a property. I want to provide safe, affordable housing to a tenant, and I want to be able to make money off of that, to where I don't need to do something physically for it every single day. And then after that, it just about taking the steps. The first things first is I reached out to some of the house providers. In that case, it was mid south home buyers, gave them a call, spoke to them, say, Hey, can I please be put on your list? Perfect. Then it was just continuing the work, doing more research, continue listening to your podcast, learn tidbits here and there, lots of Googling, lots of Googling, looking up terms that I didn't understand when I read through the analysis of the property. Hey, what does this mean? What does that mean, Googling it, learning one step at a time. And then when it came time and I was actually receiving properties that I could buy, it was about getting the mortgage, and it was about, hey, let's just move one step at a time. Okay, today I need to get these documents, and the next step, I need to get these documents. And before you knew it, I was signing with a notary closing on my first property,    Keith Weinhold  17:10   the autodidactic approach, meaning the self taught approach, with some assistance from my show. But yeah, oftentimes listening to the show can be the stimulus to make you want to learn more, probably, because I talk about the why for real estate, and if you don't know your why, you won't care about how So Josh, are you doing something that some people do in high cost areas, like you live in in SoCal? Are you renting your own place? And then you provide rental housing to others outside your own area. In investor advantage places is that your setup?   Josh Fang  17:44   100% where I live in Irvine, it is extremely, extremely low crime. Everything's a planned unit development. It is beautiful out here. There's trees, there's lots of different foods from different cultures. I absolutely love living here. The only issue is is it's ridiculously expensive. I live in a very nice luxury apartment complex, and I pay of extremely high rent that normal people probably wouldn't be able to pay. But rather than coming out of my pocket, I use the cash flow for my rentals to pay for my rent over here. So it's kind of like I'm building equity, even though I'm just renting, and I get to live the life that I want to live, where I want to live it, while still being able to invest the proper way. In my opinion   Keith Weinhold  18:26   that's beautifully said and well thought out. And part of doing that, Josh is this borrowing money, which I think to lay people, is scary, and for someone in their 20s to borrow money, that could really bring a good bit of trepidation, because that goes against the grain of what so many people do. But of course, we talk around here about how borrowing money like you have for your rental properties in other states outside California really is not something to fear. So can you tell us more about how you approach that mindset?    Josh Fang  18:57   Absolutely, and it's always hilarious when someone asks you if you if you have any debt, and you tell them $500,000 when you're 23,24 years old, the biggest thing about borrowing money is now, again, there's different types of debt. So I'm not saying, hey, go buy some expensive car that you're going to be backwards on in a few months. Don't get a bunch of credit card debts at 24% interest rates. I'm talking about debt from a with a collateral attached to it, such as a mortgage. The way I like to think about borrowing money is borrowing like a bank, because your money has value. Whenever I have money in the actual bank, it doesn't feel like it, but I'm actually lending money to the bank. They're taking the money that I have deposited and lending it out to other people at higher rate than what they're paying you back. That's how they're actually making the money. I'm thinking like a bank. And of course, that's exactly how it is with borrowing money for rental properties. The interest rate that I have to pay on my mortgage is so much lower than how much income I'm receiving by actually renting it out and providing housing for someone. And then, of course. Tax deductions.   Keith Weinhold  20:00   Sure you're creating arbitrage there when it comes to paying off or aggressively paying down a property. I mean, some protection financially is surely good, but one has to realize that after some point, when you protect you cannot produce another way to say it is if you use your dollar to pay down, then you cannot use your dollar to multiply.   Josh Fang  20:25   I agree with that 100% I couldn't have said it any better.   Keith Weinhold  20:28   You really took action something that a lot of people don't do. I don't think you did right away. You listened to some episodes for quite a while, but you did overcome analysis paralysis at some point. So talk to us about more with that mindset of how you took the first step, even when you're still perhaps a little unsure.   Josh Fang  20:46   I think you say it best, and I know I'm literally taking the words out of your mouth, because, again, I'm a long time listener, but do the right thing before you do things right. Yes, rings so, so, so true. You're never going to be perfect. There's never going to be the perfect property. There's never going to be the perfect deal. Eventually you just have to do it. And again, all it really is is saying, Hey, here's what I want to do, and what are the steps that have to take to get there? If the first actual step, rather than just listening to the podcast or getting more information, if the first step is, hey, I want to get a pre approval. Go ahead and get it done. Reach out to a loan officer, get your pre approval, get the documents needed, get the right information that you need, and then start writing offers on properties, or contacting Keith and his team, their GRE mentoring team, and ask for property values. And once you find one, and again, you're never going to find the perfect property. Once you finally say, hey, this fits enough. Jump on it. You should be excited. I mean, again, once you're doing the right thing, you can learn to do things right. And slowly, kind of say, Hey, I made a small error there. Hey, I made a small error there. But at the end of the day, you move forward and you're ahead of where you started. I think that's the most important thing.   Keith Weinhold  21:59   Yeah. I think uncertainty stops. Some people, maybe even uncertainty with the larger economy. Or maybe people just look for excuses for inactivity. Sometimes there will always be some uncertainty out there. And what you do when you make an offer on a real asset is you just made some certainty in your life. Yeah, just talk to us more about the process of kind of you started with your first property and then growing that portfolio. And what did you learn between the first one in that second, third, fourth and fifth one, where you are now   Speaker 2  22:32   after buying my first one, when I received that first rent check, after that first rental property, my net cash flow after management expenses, putting a little, you know, VIMTIM, keeping an extra 10% away to just keep in the bank in case something came up. I wish cash flowing at the time. $231 doesn't sound like a crazy amount now, but as a 22 year old kid and saying, Hey, I got this $231 without lifting a finger, felt amazing. I had this feeling, I'm out in Southern California. We had this burger chain called in and out. My double double burger and fries combo was about $6 at the time. And I said, no matter how bad things get, no matter how bad things get, that $231 I can buy an in and out meal every single day, as long as I own that property. I just had such an overwhelming feeling of, when can I get the next one? I immediately, immediately reached out to MidSouth like, hey, put me on the list as soon as I have money. You know what? Keith, it got fun. It got fun every time I got an email saying, Hey, here's another property. Like, wow, if I can make this deal work, that's an extra couple $100 I can have at the end of the month every single day. And now I live in my own apartment complex, in a unit in an apartment complex, but at the time, I rented out a room in a house, in a condo, just a single room, and by the time I bought my second rental property, all of my cash flow from my two rentals actually covered the full amount of my monthly rent living out outside of my parents place. And that just felt so so so amazing, because it was like I almost had no overhead. So all the money that I was making for my job was completely disposable that I could use to purchase other rental properties. And that was just such an amazing, freeing feeling to know that no matter what happened, I obviously as long as there's no vacancies or any kind of crazy issues there, that I would still have that flow of income coming in pretty much after buying my first one, all I wanted to do was buy more. Now, a big issue that happened was 2020 and 2021 there was very little inventory, so really tough and slim pickings, and I would have bought a lot more if I could find more deals. And now, thinking back, I should have, if anything, I wish I bought more.   Keith Weinhold  24:50   Gosh, I just love that Josh, that seminal $231cash flow from that first property, and how you rationalize that that could buy you in and out. Meal every single day, all month. If that's what you wanted to do with that first one, that's terrific. And yes, markets change. There's more inventory available now than there was in 2020, and 2021, mortgage rates are surely higher. You don't have as much competition. You might even get a concession or two when you buy since it's a more balanced market today than it was about four years ago, for sure. So every market cycle is different. When you realize you're paid five ways at the same time, there's always one side to play or the other. There's always so many variables that you get to deal with there. Have you had any certain issues with property management, or do you have any mindset about using a property manager remotely. I assume you're using remote management for these turnkey type properties. Is that right?   100% I've actually never physically seen any of my properties. Yeah, what you say is the best, essentially, your team that manages your property is the most important by far. Right? Right now, here's the thing, issues are going to come up. Regardless of what happens. There's always going to be something that breaks. Eventually, there's always going to be vacancy. Eventually there can be natural disasters, something's always going to come up. And the thing is, you can't get angry about the things that you can't control. If there is a vacancy that you know you vetted the tenant properly, and there was nothing to do if there is a natural disaster or if something does break down in your property that you couldn't have expected coming or that wasn't your fault. The biggest thing is, you can't get angry with it. You just have to know that you can deal with it properly, and having a professional team on the other side saying, Hey, we're going to handle it. This is an issue. Here's how much it's going to cost. We got a couple of you know quotes. Please approve one when you get a chance, and knowing that the other side will be able to execute on that and to do it for you, and that you don't have to fly out wherever you own your property and do it yourself physically, or have to call around and find a contractor to do it, it's a huge peace of mind, and having a property manager and a team that you can trust just makes it work. If I couldn't get a property manager that I trusted, I wouldn't own the property in the first place. It's just too much work.   I am the same way. I also have not seen the majority of the properties I own. I've never seen them physically, in person, yeah, having a professional property manager, they provide a buffer, and they help keep this investment unemotional for you. And Mistakes happen when people get overly emotional about their properties. Some people are reluctant to hire a property manager, Josh because they don't want to pay the eight to 10% property management fee, which can actually be a little bit more than that effectively with leasing fees. But people feel that way, as oftentimes they're confining and limiting their search to their own local market, which probably isn't investor advantage. So they don't have enough of a cushion in their pro forma, in their profit and loss statement to pay for a property manager. But when you buy in those investor advantage places where you get that high ratio of rent income to purchase price. There you have the allowance to pay for the manager too,    Speaker 2  28:06   100% and luckily, because I have my foundation of real estate from listen to your podcast, I never even look at a deal without factoring in the fact that there will be management. I have never, ever even possibly considered self managing. It just makes no sense. I'd rather, let's just say it's 10% and a month's worth of lease, which is a little bit on the higher end in terms of management fees, right? Even if I were to do I would factor that in 100% of the time if the deal doesn't work, if it doesn't cash flow, if it doesn't, you know, appreciate a certain amount, if it isn't in my ballpark, with the management fees taken out, that's not even the deal that I'm looking at. It's just too expensive.   Keith Weinhold  28:47   Yeah, that's a great way to think about it, keep it unemotional and make it all relatively passive. I self managed for the first six or seven years of my real estate investing career, but that's because I was only investing in my own local market, and I was thinking small, and I didn't learn about finding the best investor advantaged places nationwide. Well, just as we wind down here, is there any last thing that you'd like to let the audience know or to tell us, I know before we recorded, you had talked about how really, your Daydream is more realistic than you think, and the motivation behind getting started. What do you want to leave with? Josh?   Speaker 2  29:22   You say it after every podcast. Don't quit your Daydream. I've been hearing that for eight years now at this point, and it really is, I don't have a day job. I pretty much only work when I feel like it. The majority of what I've lived off of is the income properties that I've bought and the lifestyle that I've crafted. It's so freeing. No one's telling you what to do. You don't have to go somewhere every day. You can spend time doing what you want. When I first quit my day job, and, you know, went into this semi retirement, I'm not gonna lie, I play video games eight hours a day for months, or maybe a month or two. I don't know if that's the most productive. It. But the fact that I could do that, I could obsess on crazy hobbies for a while was crazy. But one of the most important things to me of being able to reach this point in my life is I'm starting to get a little bit older. I am able to spend time with my family. I am able to spend time with my grandparents, and, you know, just like on a Tuesday or like on a Wednesday, just when nothing's really going on. Just being able to stop by and say hi to my family and spend time with them is something that I'm so blessed to be able to have, and not many people can do. And then the last thing I'd like to say on that is just, there's very small things in the world that a lot of people don't get a notice. Because I feel like everyone's in a rush all the time, and a lot of people are. You know, if you're working 40 hours a week, nine to five, you know, nine to six, there's not much time. But the other day, I was taking a small hike, and I saw a group of lizards. I thought they were cool, so I looked at the lizards. I spent maybe 15 minutes watching the lizards. I wasn't in a rush, you know, I could just enjoy the small things in life, and that's one of the best things in the world to just have that sense of not being in a rush. And I feel like investing in real estate and having that passive income and having that level of freedom. To me, that's what my Daydream is. There's nothing better to me.   Keith Weinhold  31:14   the simple pleasures about not having your time so confined that you could enjoy looking at lizards for 15 minutes. I love the small stuff like that. And does this mean Josh? I mean with five rental properties that you only need to work part time rather than full time, because usually five properties don't allow someone to completely leave the workforce.   Josh Fang  31:32   No, not at all. I definitely do things on the side. I still do loans for friends and family. I do some other stuff on the side, but it's more of that my basic needs are met for the most part.   Keith Weinhold  31:43   That's terrific. You've got more latitude to live and having a life of options Trumps having a life of obligations 100% Well, hey, it's been great hearing your story. Josh, loved having you here on the show you're listening to get rich education. We got to know listener. Guest, Josh Fang more, and we come back with another listener guest, profile, I'm your host, Keith Weinhold.    The same place where I get my own mortgage loans is where you can get yours. Ridge lending group  NMLS, 42056, they provided our listeners with more loans than anyone because they specialize in income properties. They help you build a long term plan for growing your real estate empire with leverage. Start your pre qual and even chat with President Caeli Ridge personally. While it's on your mind, start at Ridge lendinggroup.com. 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Text family to 66866.   Jim Rickards  33:49   this is Arthur Jim Rickards. Listen to get rich education with Keith Weinhold, and don't quit your Daydream.   Keith Weinhold  34:05   our next listener guest has an uncanny amount of similarities with me, like me, he was a geography major in college. He had humble beginnings in upstate New York, not far from where I grew up, in upstate Pennsylvania. He's a huge believer in real estate pays five ways, and he loves world travel. His first job out of college was, in fact, traveling the world, playing basketball against the Harlem Globetrotters. We sure don't have that pro basketball part in common. He owns dozens of units across seven states today. He's listened to GRE for six or seven years, and he was a corporate guy living in California who thought the book Rich Dad, Poor Dad was fiction, until he experienced the rapid appreciation of he and his wife's first primary residence. And after that appreciation, he knew he had to acquire more real estate. Prices were too high in California relative to rent, so he. Went out of state, and he had just one property for five years to learn that was pretty similar to me as well. And then he saw tremendous opportunity after the GFC hit in 2008 and that really put him on a path through experience the five ways real estate pays over time, and he became convinced that there's not a better risk adjusted business model that's easily accessible to the average person. Hey, welcome to GRE Nate O'Neil   Nate O'Neil  35:25   Keith, it's great to be here. I've been, as you mentioned, a long time. Listener. Really appreciate the content that you put out, and excited to be on the show   Keith Weinhold  35:32   and you're no longer playing like zero defense basketball against the Harlem Globetrotters. You work in the solar industry now. I know that you sell to single family rental REITs. That's really interesting. And one thing that real estate investing lets people do is think differently about their w2 jobs. So tell us about how that manifests with you. Nate,   Nate O'Neil  35:56   growing up, you know, the first 25 years of my life, 24 years or so, my identity was wrapped up as an athlete, and, you know, something I could really get excited about eventually, that had to come to an end, and started working in the corporate world. So did that for a little while, and got going. It really, you know, didn't resonate with me that much. But, you know, I had a wife, and I had some kids on the way, so had to keep grinding it out. And, you know, as I did that, I discovered real estate, and what really helped me with that was I saw the corporate world began to be a vehicle to grow my real estate portfolio, right? Instead of it being the desk jockey in the cubicle, my corporate job was okay, this is the way for me to raise capital and get the best loans to build a real estate portfolio so, and it's ironic, because as that kind of evolved, I gained, you know, more appreciation for the corporate job, and it didn't, it wasn't so burdensome. And I know there's probably a lot of people out there right that feel that way about their job, but you can probably do a mindset shift and say, hey, you know, this can serve me in other ways and it not be such a grind.   Keith Weinhold  37:03   That's a great way to think about it. While you have that job, it sure is an asset in helping you qualify for loans. Right before I quit my job, I made sure I qualified for as many loans as I could, because I sure would have had a hard time getting them immediately after leaving my job, before I built income or build up passively from something else. It's funny, when you're in the corporate world, you're in this context of normalcy. So many people that you know are working. You're around your coworkers all day. They're working, and if it's something you're not passionate about, yeah, you still don't question it, because it takes on that context for normalcy. But once you leave your job, it feels bizarre that anyone would ever show up and spend five of their seven days and most of the waking hours of those days doing something that they're not passionate about. Now maybe you are passionate about what you do. That's where the mindset that I think through there, but that's a good way to help a person feel a little bit better showing up at their job, even if it is a soul sucking job. Nate. So talk to us about this more with this sort of power of purpose that you had, and when you are working your day job, you probably do some living below your means in the short term, but a lot of people just do that decade after decade and grind it out. So how do you think about that with the mindset in this sort of capital formation stage, in order to acquire more property while you're working?   Nate O'Neil  38:29   Like I said, it was an opportunity that the job became an opportunity to fuel the real estate business, which, as you mentioned, I saw that opportunity in 2009 right when prices were low, when interest rates were low, when there was a bunch of nice new foreclosures on the market, I saw the it created a sense of urgency in me, right? So I was like, All right, let's go to work, because the work's going to drive that capital, and the capital is going to allow us to acquire more and more of this real estate, which is, again, something I was passionate about, because we had this just that one rental for that five year period, I saw the power of what it can do over the long term. And when you have that purpose and that clarity, then all the minor stuff that you can get wrapped around and can kind of slow you down, really doesn't matter you have that big vision and that big goal that you're going after that really kind of drives you    Keith Weinhold  39:20   now, before we got started today, I learned that you have a few ways of thinking about how real estate investors can have their cake and eat it too, more tactically. Here tell us about that. And of course, what is the point of having cake if you can't eat it?    Nate O'Neil  39:33   Yeah, for sure, worked in some different industries and some different companies, and seen a lot of different business models. I've never found anything where you can have kind of both sides of the cookie here, or hack cake eat it too. You can depreciate an appreciating asset. The government allows you to depreciate homes, right? Which gives you a nice tax benefit. The money that I make that my corporate job is taxed at a much higher rate than my real estate income, but yet the asset actually appreciates. Dollars. So you depreciate an appreciating asset. I think people underestimate the power of the 30 year mortgage, right? You can lock in an interest rate today for 30 years, and if interest rates go up, you did a great job. You locked in a great, great rate. If interest rates go down, you're a champion. If you just refinance, when you do a 30 year fixed rate mortgage, the lender is committing to you for three decades, but you don't have to commit to them. So again, have your cake and eat it, too. And then you know the whole return on amortization that you talk about, Keith, yeah, when you get to borrow money that you don't have to pay back, in essence, right? The resident that's in your home is paying that money back. So people think about they hate getting bills in the mail. I actually love getting my mortgage statements in the mail. Every month I go through this little ritual, I look at it, and my process is, wow, how much was that principle paid down? Right? I didn't pay it back, right? The rent payment paid it back. So what other scenario can you borrow money that, quote, unquote, someone else is paying back on your behalf,   Keith Weinhold  41:02   that ROA, that return on amortization, also known as principal pay down. Where, yes, you get that statement every month, and you get to see how much a stranger paid down for your property. It's basically a stranger every month is faithfully funding an illiquid savings account for you,   Speaker 3  41:22   it's just incredible. And then the final way I kind of think about having your cake and eating it too, is, is this HELOC strategy. So over time, as you build equity in your portfolio, you can take out a home equity line of credit, right? And the beauty of a line of credit is you open it up and you don't have to make any payments if you don't use the money. But when there's an opportunity, you can pound for that opportunity. And this is what we did in 2020 and 2021 we acquired some new construction fourplexes with HELOCs. And when in using the HELOC strategy, you're able to use every single dollar to keep the balance low. And what it does is it creates this virtuous cycle of increasing cash flow, because it's a line of credit, and you pay off against that, that line of credit, if you need the money back for an emergency, or if a better opportunity comes up, then you basically just pull more off that line of credit. But if you don't have that opportunity of that emergency, then your money is fully working to keep that payment low, which increases your cash flow, and again, it creates that virtuous cycle of of increasing cash flow, which you can use to pay down the HELOC. Even more   Keith Weinhold  42:29   I see no downsides to getting a HELOC to getting a line of credit against your existing primary residence or your rental properties, whatever they are. It's like this flexible credit card where you're drawing on it with your property as collateral, and it's at lower interest rates than a credit card is going to be. And you also have interest only flexibility, meaning even if you draw against it, and you do have a balance and you need to make a payment, therefore you can pay as little as only the interest portion if you want to. In fact, when I bought my first fourplex in order to fund my second fourplex, I took a HELOC second mortgage off of that first one. Love the HELOC really can't think of any downsides with at least having it there. And then it's up to you as to whether you want to draw against it or not. Absolutely talk to us more about you're another out of state investor based in high cost California. There. It sounds unusual to lay people, but here we are as successful investors owning these properties, typically that we have never seen out of state. Are you in that category as well? And talk to us more about the out of state investing experience   Speaker 3  43:40   I've only ever seen one of the units that I own, the rental units that I own, and I actually think it's a huge advantage, because if you're seeing them driving by them all the time, there's probably little nits that you could point out, and, you know, you get some kind of emotional attachment to them. The way I look at it, it's two things. Number one, it's the spreadsheet behind it, right? What are the numbers behind it? What is my mortgage payment? Is there Hoa, taxes, insurance, all that stuff, and what is my rent? And obviously, I'm all about cash flow, so that rent payment has to cover all the expenses with a little extra. The second piece of it behind the spreadsheet is the person managing it right? And I've been very fortunate over my years of investing to find some really quality property managers who I know I can trust. So, you know, absolutely, I mean, developed an ability to hire the right people to manage the property, and they handle just about everything, and I just need to be there, available for them if they have questions for me or decisions I need to make. Fully trust them. I have only ever seen one of the units that I own, and you know, never really planned to go out and visit them.   Keith Weinhold  44:44   You do like to travel, but just not necessarily to your 200k turnkey single family home in the Midwest, in the south, not where you want to stay. There are some advantages and some disadvantages of owning rental properties, say, four blocks from your home. One of the distinct disadvantages is, yeah, you might get that emotional attachment to it. You might get bogged down in inconsequential things. You might drive by and see that the hedge needs a trim. How much of a problem is that really?   Nate O'Neil  45:14   Exactly it, as long as the spreadsheet behind it is spitting out the right numbers, and you have someone that you can trust that can handle anything that that's major, or any tenant issues that's all that's really relevant.   Keith Weinhold  45:26   Has our investment coaching helped inform you at all? Helped you find properties or give you inside information or access to deals or other support?    Nate O'Neil  45:35   Yeah, I have had a conversation with Naresh. One of your investment counselors doesn't, haven't necessarily acted upon that. But, you know, I can say over the, you know, six to seven years that I've been listening to your podcast just understanding kind of the macroeconomic guests that you bring on in the markets that we believe, you know, are good for investing. Like that, information has been extremely valuable to me over the years.    Keith Weinhold  45:57   Our coaches are really deal scouts here in today's market. For example, things are just so much different than they were during the 2008 GFC years. There are always deals in every cycle. You typically just need to shift and find out where those opportunities are. Are there any specific niches or opportunities that you're exploiting today in this particular cycle? Nate   Nate O'Neil  46:19   yeah. So it's really interesting, and I've been spoiled, right in terms of the times when I did a lot of my acquisition back in 2008 we knew it was good, but looking back, you realize just how good it was at that time, and frankly, now is very challenging, right? I mean, affordability is the worst that's been in 40 years. Yeah, right. So you have to be really creative. You know, one of the things that I did recently was I learned how to do a loan acquisition. So assuming a loan can be very helpful, right where you're not dealing with today's interest rates, you can get yesterday's interest rates on a property. So that's been one thing, and one thing I continue to look at. I also believe that I've been focused on single family in some four plexes. I'm looking at smaller multifamily because what I've learned is there's opportunity when there's debt disruption, right? The great financial crisis happened because there were atrocious lending standards leading up to that time, right? So that opened up a window of opportunity. That opportunity is closed. Acquired some fourplexes in 20 and 21 when interest rates were unbelievably low, right? Basically, the Fed funds rate was basically zero. That kind of unique debt situation allowed me to acquire there and now, right? Since 2022 interest rates spiked so quickly, the way I think about it is the debt disruption period, there's probably some acquisitions that happened with, you know, three to five year short term loans that are going to be coming due, and those acquisition are facing payments that are going to double. So there could be some motivated sellers, not in the single family right, where you have 30 year fixed rate or 15 year fixed rate, but in those small, multi family loans, where they have those short term variable rate debts. So that's kind of how I'm thinking right now.   Keith Weinhold  48:05   That's perceptive. It's something I brought up on the show a month or more ago where apartment buildings have got to bottom out at some point those being sensitive to those shorter term interest rates. Well, Nate, this has really been helpful. You've given our audience quite a few things to think about. Is there any last thing that you'd like the audience to know?   Speaker 3  48:25    We talked a little bit about purpose, like that's very important. There is no better way, in my opinion, to build wealth for the average person, no more predictable way risk adjusted, to build wealth for the average person. You know, for the listeners out there. It's great that you're consuming this content, and if you can find a purpose behind it, then it'll help. And the other thing is, get clarity, right? There's a lot of different things you can do within real estate investing, but get clarity on what works for you. And the way to do that, frankly, is just kind of sit and think, I think, you know, especially in today's day and age, there's so many stimulus coming at us, from social media to everything that there's a risk of not being able to get clear. One of the big things that helped me during that, that period of, you know, 2009 to 2015 when we started to scale, was I was very clear about what we wanted. I had a buy box that was, you know, homes built this millennium B grade neighborhoods, cash flowed $300 or more with no more than 25% down in markets with population growth, job growth and favorable rent to price ratios. And when I was able to communicate with the agents and property managers, I was very clear on what we wanted to do. They had clarity on what they needed to do to help us scale so purpose and clarity.   Keith Weinhold  49:41   That's great guidance a specific Buy Box. Yes, focus is harder to find, and it's really important today. It's amazing. Nate, how much work I get done when my phone is one room away, over on the charger. It's incredible how that works. Well, it's been good to get your insight, and it's been good to talk to a guy. That might know the capital of Argentina much like I know a fellow geography guy and real estate investor. Yeah. I really want to thank you for sharing your insight with the audience today.    Nate O'Neil  50:11   Nate, I hope it's valuable for you in the audience.   Keith Weinhold  50:20   Oh yeah, good, relatable material this week, the first guest, Josh, also talked about how he took out a low interest rate car loan. So he held onto those funds rather than handing them over to an auto dealer, stayed liquid and used it for income property, creating a yield for himself that beat the car loan interest rate pretty smart. And before you do that, you do want to be sure that you've got enough liquidity to serve as debt. And then Nate the second one, the more experienced investor, reminding us that deals are not as good as they were coming off the global financial crisis. And he's right, but I still don't know of a better risk adjusted return today, like me, they both use professional property management. I mean, you do have the option of self managing your property remotely that you get from GRE marketplace. But of all the things in the world that you can learn about, even all the things in real estate investing that you can learn about, is self managing really what you want to spend your finite resource of time learning about. Even if you've got good tenants, you're bringing more intrusion and interruption into your life. Property managers don't just protect your asset, they protect your time. Big thanks to GRE listeners, Josh Fang and Nate O'Neil today until next week, I'm your host. Keith Weinhold, don't quit your Daydream.   Speaker 4  51:50   Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial or business professional for individualized advice. 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Calling all mortgage professionals! In this video, we break down the core differences between Refinances, HELOCs, and Home Equity Loans—and more importantly, how to position and sell each one to your clients with clarity and confidence.Whether you're new to the industry or looking to sharpen your edge, this guide gives you the no-fluff, high-leverage way to explain these options to borrowers and close more deals. Learn when to recommend each product, what red flags to avoid, and how to simplify complex conversations.Stop losing deals from confusion. Start sounding like the go-to expert. Let's get into it.Ready to master the mortgage world?Get the full blueprint at AcezAcademy.comWant to work directly with Ace? Join Takers Brokerage here: Takers Brokerage Application#MortgagePros #RefinanceVsHELOC #HomeEquityLoan #LoanOfficerTraining #MortgageSales #MortgageMarketing #HELOCExplained #RefiStrategy #MortgageAdvice #LoanOfficerTipsSupport the showJoin our weekly calls so you we can help you too!

If you want to use a HELOC to pay off your mortgage, the easiest way is to utilize your HELOC as a checking account. But where can you find these types of HELOCs? That's the first question I'm answering on this encore episode of Investing in Real Estate! Today's Q&A episode features three of your great questions about finding HELOC products, rental companies, and how to buy rental properties inside a self-directed IRA.

In this fun and insightful episode, Neal and Ryan welcome the newest member of the Keystone team, Sam Horstman, as he joins the show for a special quiz format. Using the recently released 2025 CMHC Mortgage Consumer Survey, Sam tests Neal and Ryan's knowledge and assumptions on key trends in the Canadian mortgage market. They cover consumer behavior, social media influence, refinancing, home buying motivations, surprising stats around HELOCs, green renovations, and more. This episode offers a deeper understanding of current market sentiment and what it means for lenders, brokers, and real estate professionals. Don't miss it!Show Notes: 01:08 – Neal and Ryan catch up and talk about pollen, ticks, and kittens03:13 – Introducing Sam Horstman, new mortgage analyst at Keystone03:57 – Sam explains the CMHC Consumer Survey and sets up the quiz format06:13 – Which province saw the biggest jump in mortgage activity?07:23 – Average renting period before buying a home08:12 - Uptick in rental property transactions09:39 – How confident are consumers in their mortgage deals?10:35 – Are Canadians comfortable with their mortgage debt?12:16 – The top reasons people decided to buy a home16:04 – YouTube vs. Instagram vs. Facebook: which platform do consumers trust most?16:50 – Top online research sources for mortgage decisions17:43 – Do more consumers go to brokers or lenders for information?20:12 – How long does it save for a down payment now?20:56 – Most valuable professional during the home buying process: the unexpected answer22:42 – How many consumers have HELOCs?23:36 – Why do people add secondary suites?24:20 – Top consumer concerns about missing mortgage payments25:22 – Most and least popular green renovations27:28 – Fixed vs. variable rates: Which do consumers prefer now?29:57 – Neal and Ryan reflect on what the data says about consumer sentimentResources:CMHC Mortgage Consumer Survey 2025Keystone Capital GroupCPLP Instagram: @cplpodcastKeystone Instagram: @keycapgroupFind Neal On:Instagram: @neal.andreinoLinkedInFind Ryan on:LinkedInE-mail: ryan@keycap.ca

If your retirement plan includes staying in your home, you'll want to hear this conversation…In this episode of The Agent of Wealth Podcast, host Marc Bautis is joined by Kevin Guttman, Certified Reverse Mortgage Professional and author of A Reverse Mortgage Changed My Life: Real Stories of Hope, Courage, and Inspiration. Together, they break down the often misunderstood world of reverse mortgages – also referred to as “retirement mortgages.” With over two decades of experience, Kevin explains how these loans can offer older homeowners financial security, flexibility, and peace of mind – all while allowing them to stay in their homes.In this episode, you will learn:How retirement/reverse mortgages differ from traditional home loans and HELOCs.Who qualifies for a reverse mortgage and how to determine if it's the right fit.The three ways retirees can access their home equity – and which might make the most sense.The most common misconceptions about reverse mortgages (and the truth behind them).How to start a productive conversation with aging parents about home equity and long-term financial goals.And more!Tune into this episode to hear how home equity can support long-term retirement goals!Resources:Episode Transcript & Blog | reversemortgagerevolution.com | A Reverse Mortgage Changed My Life: Real Stories of Hope, Courage, and Inspiration | Bautis Financial: 8 Hillside Ave, Suite LL1 Montclair, New Jersey 07042 (862) 205-5000 | Schedule an Introductory Call

Need Cash in Retirement? Here's How to Stay Flexible. In this episode, Joe Curry and Lindsay Wilson talk about how to get the cash you need in retirement. They explain the best ways to prepare for surprise expenses, like using emergency funds, HELOCs (home equity lines of credit), and smart RSP withdrawals. They also talk about why it's important to plan ahead, so your money stays flexible when you need it most. This episode is also a special one—Lindsay shares a goodbye message, as it's her last time co-hosting the show. Check out the show notes for EP 145 HERE

Ready to take a deep dive and learn how to generate personal tax-free cash flow from your corporation? Enroll in our FREE masterclass here and book a call hereAre you risking your financial future by blindly following the use “Other People's Money (OPM)” playbook in real estate investing?If you've ever been tempted by social media gurus promising Canadian real estate investment riches without using your own cash, this episode is your wake-up call. Before you borrow a dime, you need to understand what Canadian mortgage lenders and private lenders really look for, when “Other People's Money (OPM)” crosses legal lines, and how over-leveraging could quietly destroy your financial wealth health—and relationships.In this episode, you'll learn:The legal and financial traps behind gift letters, Canadian mortgages, private lending, and misused HELOCs.Smarter, safer ways to structure real estate joint ventures and family real estate lending deals—without causing drama (or fraud).How to assess your true readiness for using leverage to invest, and why a conservative strategy can actually accelerate your Canadian wealth.Press play now to uncover the real risks and rewards of using Other People's Money (OPM) — and avoid the mistakes that cost Canadian real estate investors more than just money.Discover which phase of wealth creation you are in. Take our quick assessment and you'll receive a custom wealth-building pathway that matches your phase and learn our CRA compliant tax optimized strategies. Take that assessment here.Canadian Wealth Secrets Show Notes Page:Consider reaching out to Kyle…taking a salary with a goal of stuffing RRSPs;…investing inside your corporation without a passive income tax minimization strategy;…letting a large sum of liquid assets sit in low interest earning savings accounts;…investing corporate dollars into GICs, dividend stocks/funds, or other investments attracting corporate passive income taxes at greater than 50%; or,…wondering whether your current corporate wealth management strategy is optimal for your specific situation.Canadian real estate investing with Other People's Money (OPM) isn't a cheat code—it's a high-risk strategy that demands careful planning and legal awareness. For Canadian investors and entrepreneurs, understanding how to legally structure joint ventures, private lending, and HELOC strategies is essential to avoid financial disaster. This episode explores OPM pitfalls like fake gift letters, overleveraging, and misused Canadian mortgage lending rules. Discover how smart Canadian investors assess risk, Ready to connect? Text us your comment including your phone number for a response!Canadian Wealth Secrets is an informative podcast that digs into the intricacies of building a robust portfolio, maximizing dividend returns, the nuances of real estate investment, and the complexities of business finance, while offering expert advice on wealth management, navigating capital gains tax, and understanding the role of financial institutions in personal finance.

This episode of "Creating Richer Lives" explores how to turn your significant home equity into usable cash flow, especially if most of your net worth is tied up in your home. We'll break down popular strategies like HELOCs, cash-out refinances, and reverse mortgages, explaining the pros and cons of each. Discover how to leverage your biggest asset for financial flexibility, but not before understanding the crucial considerations and potential risks involved. Tune in to learn how to make your home truly work for you. Plus, what's going on with Elon & President Trump? Show Topics Tapping home equity HELOCs, Refis, Reverse Mortgages Pros and cons of each Key questions before you borrow Making your home work for you

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Tune in to this episode of the Security Token Show where this week Herwig Konings and Kyle Sonlin cover the industry leading headlines and market movements, including Circle's IPO, Plume updates, investment activity on MetaWealth, Figure's democratized HELOCs, and more RWA news!   This week Jason Barraza had a chance to sit with Balcony and Avalanche on their recent announcement around tokenizing $240B worth of real estate deeds from Bergen County. Join us for talks on why deeds, pipelines, financial losses found in similar projects, and more!   Company of the Week - Herwig: Plume Network Company of the Week - Kyle: Figure Markets   Companies covered include Circle, APS, MetaWealth, Plume, Allora, Figure Markets, IFI Global, 21X, SBI Digital Markets, Collaterize, DZ Bank, Ripple, Etherfuse, Particula, C3 Bullion, tZERO, Vertalo, PJKT72, Credefi, Zodia Custody, USDT0, TON, BCB Markets, Societe Generale, Amano, RWA Inc., Toyow, Nisus Finance, droppRWA, RAFAL, RealT,  Zentari Capital, Subunit Pro, Xend Finance, and Risevest   Sign up for our webinar with IFI Global on June 17th at 12pm ET covering alternative fund tokenization adoption. We will cover research results and feature a panel with Archax and Maple Finance: https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_NcStmMJaQbOgQVyULGwLSg#/registration   

This episode is sponsored by…FIGURE:Access your home equity in minutes—no refinance needed! go.figure.com/renttoretirementAre you sitting on thousands in home equity—but unsure how to access it without sacrificing your low mortgage rate? In this episode, Zach Lemaster sits down with Tim Rowen, Director of Sales Success at Figure, to dive deep into a powerful wealth-building tool: HELOCs (Home Equity Lines of Credit) for investment properties.Learn how investors are scaling faster by tapping into equity without the pain of a refinance. Figure's tech-driven platform makes it easy, fast, and flexible—giving real estate investors access to capital they can use strategically.

This episode is sponsored by…FIGURE:Access your home equity in minutes—no refinance needed! go.figure.com/renttoretirementAre you sitting on thousands in home equity—but unsure how to access it without sacrificing your low mortgage rate? In this episode, Zach Lemaster sits down with Tim Rowen, Director of Sales Success at Figure, to dive deep into a powerful wealth-building tool: HELOCs (Home Equity Lines of Credit) for investment properties.Learn how investors are scaling faster by tapping into equity without the pain of a refinance. Figure's tech-driven platform makes it easy, fast, and flexible—giving real estate investors access to capital they can use strategically.

This week in Canadian real estate, we saw a rare move toward improving housing affordability—but is it too little, too late?The federal government has announced a GST rebate for first-time home buyers purchasing new homes valued up to $1.5 million. Homes under $1 million will be eligible for a full GST rebate—as much as $50,000—while homes between $1 million and $1.5 million receive a partial rebate. The government claims this will help reduce upfront costs for young Canadians and spur new housing construction. But when you consider that only 10–20% of Canada's roughly 300,000 annual first-time buyers purchase new homes, this measure will actually benefit just 30,000 to 60,000 people nationwide. A step in the right direction? Yes. A scalable solution to affordability? Probably not.And while tax relief is welcome, the bigger issue continues to loom: the soaring cost of construction. Since 2017, Canada's Building Construction Price Index has jumped 90%, nearly doubling costs in just eight years—largely driven by pandemic-era supply chain shocks and inflation. This means even with incentives, developers are unlikely to hit federal housing targets, and pre-sale markets will remain fragile as margins thin and feasibility erodes.We also take a deep dive into Canada's residential mortgage debt, which now totals over $2.42 trillion—including $2.07 trillion in mortgages and $350 billion in HELOCs. That's nearly $370,000 in average mortgage debt across the 6.5 million homes with outstanding loans. With an average amortization of 20 years and today's fixed rates around 4.14%, the average monthly mortgage payment comes in at $2,256. That's barely more than Canada's average rent of $2,109, showing how thin the line between renting and owning has become for many households.Meanwhile in the U.S., delinquency rates on car loans have hit record highs—over 6.5% of borrowers are now more than 60 days behind. It's a stark indicator of mounting financial stress, and one that could spill over into the broader economy, potentially triggering interest rate cuts and even recessionary pressure stateside. A U.S. slowdown almost always influences Canada, especially when it comes to monetary policy.We also zoom out and look at G7 home price trends, and the results are jaw-dropping. Since 1985, Canada leads the G7 in inflation-adjusted home price appreciation—up 360%. That's even after an 18% national correction from peak pricing. For comparison, the UK is up 340%, the U.S. 220%, while Japan's prices have actually fallen 30%. The data paints a picture of just how extreme Canada's housing market has become over time—and how hard it may be to “normalize.”And finally, we preview next week's Bank of Canada interest rate decision. As of May 26th, odds are now sitting at 70% that there will be no cut, despite growing calls for relief. With inflation data holding steady and economic signals mixed, the BoC remains cautious.In our mini market update: Vancouver has just crossed 18,000 active listings—the most in 12 years—while May sales are on track to be the lowest ever recorded for the month, even as prices spike. Median prices are now within 1% of all-time highs, and average prices are up over $50,000 in just 30 days. It's a paradoxical moment: high supply, low sales, rising prices. Welcome to 2025. _________________________________ Contact Us To Book Your Private Consultation:

On this episode of the podcast, Alex Becerra is joined by Home Loan Manager, Casey Jenkins, to talk about all things Home Equity. Together they discuss various ways for you to leverage the equity in your home to enhance your financial wellness, the main differences between Home Equity Loans and Home Equity Lines of Credit (HELOCs,) and the most common uses for Home Equity funds. They also provide useful insights on how to determine if a Home Equity Loan or HELOC is the right choice for you… Because strategically utilizing your Home Equity to build financial freedom just makes Perfect Cents! To check out the resources highlighted in this episode visit the links below. SAFE Credit Union | How A HELOC Can Help You Build Financial Freedom SAFE Credit Union | Revitalize Your Home with an Intro HELOC Rate To register for an upcoming Financial Wellness webinar visit: https://www.safecu.org/community/events To read the latest edition of SAFE's Beyond Everyday Banking blog visit: https://blog.safecu.org/ To learn more about SAFE Credit Union products and services visit: https://www.safecu.org/  To contact the podcast team, email Podcast@safecu.org

Welcome to Connect, a podcast featuring one-on-one interviews with some of the top movers and shakers in the mortgage industry. This week we welcome Tom Davis, Chief Sales Officer, Deephaven Mortgage. Episode discussion timestamps: 1:30 - You became interested in the mortgage industry as a child. Tell me what you love about it and what keeps you so optimistic. 3:44 - Deephaven Mortgage offers HELOANs and HELOCs that allow alternative income options. You recently announced product updates for your HELOAN closed-end second that now include DSCR income for real estate investors. Why do you consider this a good time to innovate in the second mortgage / equity solutions space? 7:44 - Who are the non-QM borrowers most in need of a second lien or HELOC option? Where are the opportunities to serve self-employed borrowers or real estate investors, for example? 9:59 - What other growth areas do you see for loan officers in the non-QM space? 15:53 - Deephaven has been a long-time California MBA. Member. Can you share with our listeners why you chose to support our organization? To learn more about the California MBA, visit cmba.com

Want to retire early? You don't need millions of dollars in stocks, retirement accounts, or cash to do it. You might just need a handful of rental properties. Today's guest, Paul Novak, only started investing four years ago in 2021, but he's already nearly at his early retirement goal through rental property investing. He may only need one or two more rentals to fully retire in his mid-40s. Want to trim twenty years off of your working career? Follow Paul's plan! After realizing that stock investing could only get him to retirement so fast, Paul knew he needed a better path to early retirement. He thought real estate could be the answer. The problem? This was 2021, where every house was going over asking and competition was steep. He finally got a deal done after previous ones fell through and found he was already making 10 times more money than his stocks were giving him. It became a no-brainer to repeat the strategy. Fast forward to 2025, Paul has five rentals, with seven units in total, and he's nearly at his cash flow goal to retire from his job. He did it all through some very creative rental financing. One more rental could unlock the holy grail: early retirement, time freedom, and plenty of passive income. And this is just four years into his investing journey!  In This Episode We Cover How to retire early in just ten years with boring, repeatable rental deals  401(k) loans, HELOCs (home equity lines of credit), and other ways to fund your rentals Why interest rates don't matter as much as you think they do  How to run your numbers on rentals so you're ALWAYS making money  Why you don't need a dozen or more rentals to reach financial freedom  And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BiggerPockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-1123 Interested in learning more about today's sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠advertise@biggerpockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Keith discusses the mortgage landscape, emphasizing the benefits of cash-out refinances with Ridge Lending Group President, Caeli Ridge. They unpack the Trump administration's plan to privatize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which could impact the mortgage market. Investors are discovering powerful strategies to leverage property equity and optimize their financial portfolios. By understanding innovative borrowing techniques, savvy real estate investors can access tax-efficient capital and create sustainable wealth-building opportunities. Consider working with a lender that specializes in investor-focused loan products and provides comprehensive education on the options available.  Resources: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE  or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Show Notes: GetRichEducation.com/554 For access to properties or free help with a GRE Investment Coach, start here: GREmarketplace.com GRE Free Investment Coaching: GREinvestmentcoach.com Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE  or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Invest with Freedom Family Investments.  You get paid first: Text FAMILY to 66866 Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search “how to leave an Apple Podcasts review”  For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— text ‘GRE' to 66866 Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript:   Automatically Transcribed With Otter.ai    Keith Weinhold  0:01   Welcome to GRE. I'm your host. Keith Weinhold, we're talking about the mortgage loan landscape in this era. Is title insurance a rip off today? Is it worth it for you to pay discount points at the closing table to get a lower interest rate? Learn about how a cash out refinance. Is your ability to borrow tax free, much like a billionaire does, and what are the dramatic changes that the current administration could take to alter the mortgage environment for years, all today on get rich education.    Speaker 1  0:34   Since 2014 the powerful get rich education podcast has created more passive income for people than nearly any other show in the world. This show teaches you how to earn strong returns from passive real estate investing in the best markets without losing your time being a flipper or landlord. Show Host Keith Weinhold writes for both Forbes and Rich Dad advisors, who delivers a new show every week since 2014 there's been millions of listener downloads of 188 world nations. He has a list show guests include top selling personal finance author Robert Kiyosaki, get rich education can be heard on every podcast platform, plus it has its own dedicated Apple and Android listener phone apps build wealth on the go with the get rich education podcast. Sign up now for the get rich education podcast or visit get rich education.com   Corey Coates  1:20   You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is get rich education.   Keith Weinhold  1:36   Welcome to GRE from Liverpool, England to Livermore, California and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Weinhold, and you are listening to get rich education, the voice of real estate. Since 2014 it's been estimated that there are about 800 billionaires in USA, and hey, you might be one of them, but there's a pretty good chance that you aren't well. When it comes to lending and mortgages, you can actually take a page out of a billionaires playbook and do something very much like what they do whenever you perform a cash out refinance if you've got dead equity in a property, and you can borrow against your own home to a greater extent than you can against your rental properties, even either one of those is a tax free event, you've now got tax free cash, and you can use that money on anything from investing it in the stock market To using your proceeds for a down payment on more real estate or buying a boat or going to Disneyland, and you didn't have to relinquish your asset at all. You continue to hold on to the asset. Now, the mechanics are somewhat different, sure, but when you do a cash out refinance like this, it's a bit like billionaires borrowing against their stock. Instead, you're borrowing against the value of your real estate. In fact, listening to this short clip, it's Trevor Noah talking about how billionaires do exactly this, and you'll notice that the crowd laughs because it actually sounds funny that you can really do this,    Speaker 2  3:22   the shares that they hold in a company, because it is an unrealized gain, right? So they go like, yeah, you're worth 300 billion, but we can't tax you on those stocks because you haven't sold the shares, so you don't, like, have the money. And I understand the argument. They go like, No, you don't have it. It's just what it's worth, because it will also crash, and then you have nothing, so we can't tax you on it. Then I'm like, Okay, I understand that. Then Elon Musk offers to buy Twitter, all right? He offers to buy it. And then he says in his offer, he goes, I'm putting up my Tesla stock as collateral. Then I'm like, so you do have it? Then he's like, no, no, no, no, I don't have it. I don't have it. I'm just gonna say so then they accept the offer. He now buys Twitter. Now that they've accepted his offer, he now goes to private equity and banks and like other rich people and whatever. He goes like, can you guys borrow me the money to buy Twitter? And then he's like, I'm I want to buy Twitter because I don't want to sell any of my Tesla shares, so I want to use your money to buy Twitter. And then it's like, but then they're like, What are we loaning it against? And he's like, Well, my Tesla shares. Then I'm going, like, Wait, so, so you, you can, you can buy a thing based on what you have, yes, but when we want to tax you, you can say, I don't have it. Do you hear what I'm saying here?   Keith Weinhold  4:46   Yeah, you can borrow against your real estate if you have substantial equity in it. We'll talk about just how much now billionaires borrow against their stock holdings using financial products like portfolio lines of credit or. For securities based loans. These are the names for how they do it, essentially taking out loans and using their stock as collateral. And this allows them to access cash without selling their assets and without incurring capital gains taxes, much like you can so you can say that you don't want to sell your property in you don't have to go through some capital raising round either, like a billionaire might have to when they're borrowing against their stock. You can just have a more standard mortgage application for your cash out refinance, and you don't even have to have a huge portfolio. I mean, even if you just own one 500k property with 50% equity in it, you can do this so it's available to most any credit worthy person, again, tax free. But of course, this doesn't mean that you always should take this windfall, because it often creates a higher monthly payment. You've got to be the one that makes that decision in controlling your cash flows, that is key. I'll talk about that some more with today's terrific guests. Also the Trump administration's desire to privatize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac we're going to talk about that and what that would do to the mortgage landscape. I am in the USA today, next week, I'll be bringing you the show from London, England for the first time, the following week, from Edinburgh, Scotland. Yes, the mobile GRE Studio will be in effect. I typically set it up myself, and I usually don't need the help of the hotel staff for an appropriate Sound Studio either. And then shortly after that, I will be in Anchorage, Alaska, where I'm competing in these fantastic mountain running races. And then by next month, that's where I hope to meet up with you in person for nine days of learning and fun, as I'll be in Miami as part of the faculty for the terrific real estate guys invest or summon at sea, where we're all going to disembark from Miami and go to St Thomas, St Martin and the Bahamas, and then after that great event, it is a long flight from Miami back to Anchorage again. And that's got to be one of the longer domestic flights, not just in the nation, but in the world, Miami to Anchorage, and then shortly after that, I will be in the Great Northeast early this summer, New York and Pennsylvania, including for my high school reunion. So I'll really be putting the miles on these next couple months. One interesting thing that I've noticed for next week's show, where I'll be joining you from London, is how much I'm paying per night at both my hotel in England and then later my hotel in Scotland. That's obviously a short term real estate transaction. These are some of the more expensive places in the world, really. So next week and then the week after, I just think you'll find it interesting. I'll tell you how much I'm spending per night in both London and then Edinburgh. And they're both prime locations, where the hotels are the center of London and then right on Edinburgh's Royal Mile. That is in future weeks as for today, let's talk about the mortgage landscape with this week's familiar and terrific guest.   I'd like to welcome in one of the more recurrent guests in our history, so she needs little introduction. She's the longtime president of the mortgage company that's created more financial freedom for real estate investors than any lender in the nation because they specialize in income property loans. It's where I get my own loans for my own rental properties. Ridge lending group. Hey, welcome back to GRE Caeli ridge.    Caeli Ridge  8:57   Thank you, Keith. You know I love being here with you and your listeners. I appreciate you having me.   Keith Weinhold  9:01   You've helped us for so long. For example, who can forget way back in episode 56 Yeah, that's a deep scroll back when Chaley broke down each line of a good faith estimate for us, that's basically a closing statement sheet. She told us exactly what we pay for at the closing table, line by line like origination fee, recording costs and title insurance so helpful. It's just the sort of transparency that you get over there. Buyers pay for title insurance at the closing table. It is title insurance a rip off. A few years ago, a lot of people speculated that title insurance would fade away because the property's ownership could be transparent and accessible to everybody on the blockchain, but we don't really see that happening. So tell us about title insurance, and really, are we getting value in what we pay for there at the closing table?   Caeli Ridge  9:54   Well, I think the first thing I would say is that it really isn't going to be an option as far as I. Know, as long as the individual is going to source institutional funding leverage use of other people's money, they're going to require the lender, aka Ridge lending, or whoever you're working with, they're going to require that title insurance that ensures their first lien position. Doing that title search, first and foremost, is going to make it clear that there isn't some cloud on title, that there isn't some mechanic lien that had been sitting out there for however many years it may have just been around. And those types of things never go away. So for a lending perspective, it's going to be real important that that title insurance is paid for and in place to protect their interests, things like judgments, tax liens, like I said, a mechanic's lien, those will automatically take a first lien position in front of a mortgage. So obviously we're not going to risk that and find ourselves in second lien position in the event of default and somebody else is getting paid before we are. So not really an option. Is it a rip off? I don't know enough about how often it's paid out, and not to speak to that, but I will tell you that it isn't a choice.   Keith Weinhold  11:07   Title Insurance, like Shaylee was talking about. It protects against fraud related to the property's ownership, someone else claiming rights to the property, and this title search that an insurer does it also, yeah, it looks for those liens and encumbrances, including unpaid taxes, maybe unpaid HOA dues, but yeah, mortgage lenders typically require title insurance, and if you the borrower, you might think that's annoying. Well, it does make sense, because the bank needs to protect their collateral. If a bank ever has to foreclose, they need to have access to you, the borrower, to be able to do that without any liens or ownership claims from somebody else. Caeli, how often do title insurance companies mess up or have to pay out a claim? Does that ever happen?   Caeli Ridge  11:50   I mean, if I have been involved in a circumstances where that was the case, it's been so many years ago, they're pretty fastidious. I don't know that I could recall a circumstance where something had happened and the title insurance was liable. They go through the paces, man, they've got to make sure that, and they're doing deep dives and searches across nationwide to make sure that there isn't any unnecessary issue that's been placed on title Not that I'm aware of. No.    Keith Weinhold  11:50   Are there any of those other items that we tend to see on a good faith estimate that have had any interesting trends or changes to them in the past few years?    Caeli Ridge  12:27   Yeah, I've got a good one, and this is actually timely credit reports. So over the last couple of years, something has been happening with credit reports where, you know, maybe three, four years ago, a credit report, let's say a joint credit report, a husband and wife went and applied that credit report might cost 25 bucks. Well, now it's in excess of 100 plus. Some of what we're going to be talking about today, it kind of gets into the wish list of Jim neighbors, who is the president of the mortgage brokers Association. He's been talking to the administration about some of his wishes, and credit report fees is actually one of the things that they're wanting to attack and bringing those costs down for the consumer. So when we look at a standard Closing Disclosure today, credit report costs have increased significantly. I don't have the percentages, but by a large margin over the last couple of years,    Keith Weinhold  13:21   typically not one of your bigger costs, but a little noteworthy. There one thing that people might opt and choose to have on their good faith estimates, so that borrower therefore would actually pay more out of pocket with today's higher mortgage rates. And I'm sure not to say high, because historically, they are not high. Do we see more people opting to pay discount points at the closing table to get a lower rate and talk to us about the trade offs there   Caeli Ridge  13:46   right now, first and foremost, that there isn't a lot of option for investment property transactions, whether it be a purchase or refinance. There's not going to be that option where the consumer gets to choose to say, Okay, I want to pay points for a lower rate or not pay points for a higher rate the not paying points is the key here. There isn't going to be a zero point option for investment property transactions. And this gets a little bit convoluted, and then I'll circle back and answer the question of, when does it make sense to pay the points, more points versus less points? We have been in a higher rate environment that I think a lot of people have become accustomed to as a result secondary markets, where mortgage backed securities are bought and sold, they keep very close tabs on the trends and where they think things are headed. Well, something called YSP, that stands for yield, spread, premium, under normal market circumstances, a consumer can say, okay, Caeli, I don't want to pay any points. Okay, I'll take this higher interest rate, and I don't want to pay any points, because that higher interest rate is going to have YSP, yield, spread, premium to pay compensation to a lender, and you know, the other third parties that may be involved in that mortgage backed security. But. Sold and traded, etc, okay? They have that choice under normal market circumstances. Not the case right now, because when this loan sells the servicing rights, whoever is going to pick up the servicing rights, so when Mr. Jones goes to make his mortgage payment, he's going to cut a check to Mr. Cooper. That's a big one, right? Or Rocket Mortgage, or Wells Fargo, whoever the servicer is, the servicing rights are purchased at a cost. They have to pay for the servicing rights, and let's say that's 1% of this bundle of mortgage backed securities that they're purchasing. Well, they know the math is, is that that servicer is going to take about 36 months before that upfront cost is now in the black or profitable. This all will land together. Everybody, I promise you stick with me, so knowing that we've got about a 36 month window before a servicer that picked up the rights to service this mortgage is going to be profitable in a higher rate environment, as interest rates start coming down, what happens to the mortgage that they paid for the rights to service 12 months ago, 18 months ago, that thing is probably going to refinance right prior to the 36 month anniversary of profitability. So that YSP seesaw there is not going to be available for especially a non owner occupied transaction. So said another way, zero point rates are not going to be valid on a non owner occupied transaction in a higher rate environment when secondary markets understand that the loans that are secured today will very likely be refinanced prior to profitability on the servicing side of that mortgage backed security that is a risk to the lender, yes. So we know that right now you're not going to find a zero point option. Now that may be kind of a blanket statement. If you were getting a 30% loan to value owner occupied mortgage with 800 credit scores, you know that's going to be a different animal. And of course, you're going to have the option to not pay points. The risk for that is nothing. Okay, y SP is going to be available for you, the consumer, to be able to choose points at a lower rate, no points higher rate. When does it make sense to pay additional points? Let's say to reduce an interest rate, the break even math. And you know, I'm always talking about the math, the break even math is actually the formula is very simple. All you need to do is figure out the cost of the points. Dollar amount of the points, let's say it's $1,000 and that's what it's going to cost you to, say, get an eighth or a quarter or whatever the denomination is, in the interest rate reduction. But you aren't worried about the interest rate necessarily. You're looking at the monthly payment difference. So it's going to cost you $1,000 in extra points, but it's only going to save you $30 a month in payment when you divide those two numbers, what's that going to take you 33 months? 30 well, okay, and does that make sense? Am I going to refinance in 33 months? If the answer is no, then sure pay the extra 1000 bucks. But that's the math, the cost versus the monthly payment difference divide that that gives you the number of months it takes to recapture cost versus cash flow or savings, and then you be the determining factor on when that makes sense.    Keith Weinhold  18:10   It's pretty simple math. Of course, you can also factor in some inflation over time, and if you would invest that $1,000 in a different vehicle, what pace would that grow at as well? So we've been talking about the pros and cons of buying down your mortgage rate with discount points before we get into the administration changes. Cheley talk about that math in is it worth it to refinance or not? It's a difficult decision for some people to refinance today with higher mortgage rates than we had just a few years ago, and at the same time, we've got a lot of dead equity that's locked up.   Caeli Ridge  18:40   I would start first by saying, Are we looking to harvest equity? Are we pulling cash out, or are we simply doing a rate and term refinance where we're replacing one loan with another loan, if it's for rate and term, if we're simply replacing the loan that we have today with a new loan, that math is going to be pretty simple. Why would you replace 6% interest rate with a 7% interest rate? If all other things were equal, you wouldn't unless there was a balloon feature, or maybe an adjustable rate mortgage or something of that nature involved there that you have to make the refinance. So taking that aside, focusing on a cash out refinance, and when does it make sense? So there's a little extra layered math here. The cash that you're harvesting, the equity that you're harvesting, first of all, borrowed funds are non taxable. What are we going to do with that pile of cash? Are we going to redeploy it for investing more often than not talking to investors? The answer is yes. What is that return going to look like? So you've got to factor that in as well, and then we'll get to the tax benefit in a moment. But generally speaking, I like to as long as the cash flow is still there, okay, you've got to have someone else covering that payment. Normally, there's exceptions to every rule. I don't normally advise going negative on a cash out refi. There are exceptions. Okay, please hear me. But otherwise, as long as the existing rents are covering and that thing is still being paid for by somebody else, then what you want to do is look at that monthly payment. Difference again, versus what you're getting out of it. And then you divide those two numbers pretty simply, and it'll take you how long. And then you've got a layer in the cash flow that you're going to get from the new acquisitions, and whether that be real estate or some other type of investment, whatever the return is, you're going to be using that to offset. And then finally, I would say, make sure that you're doing adding in the tax benefit. These are rental properties guys, right? So closing costs can be deducted now that may end up hurting debt to income ratio down the road. So don't forget, Ridge lending is going to be looking at your draft tax returns. Very, very important to ensure that we're setting you up for success and optimizing things like debt to income ratio on an annual basis.   Keith Weinhold  20:40   Now, some investors, or even primary residence owners might look at their first and only mortgage on a property, see that it's 4% and really not want to touch that. What is the environment and the appetite like today for having a refinance in the form of a second mortgage? That way you can keep your first mortgage in place and, say, 4% get a second mortgage at 7% or more. How does that look for both owner occupied and non owner occupied properties today?   Caeli Ridge  21:07   you're going to be looking at prime, plus, in many cases, if you don't want to mess with a first lien, a second lien mortgage is typically going to be tied to an index called prime. Those of you that are familiar with this have probably heard of that. Indicee. There's lots of them. The fed fund rate, by the way, is an index. There's lots of them. The Treasury is also another index. Prime is sitting, I think, at seven and a half percent. So you're probably going to be looking at rate wise, depending on occupancy and credit score and all of those llpas that we always talk about, loan level, price adjustment. You know, it could be prime plus zero, it could be prime plus four. So interest rates could range between, say, seven and a half, on average, up to 11 even 12% depending on those other variables. More often than not, those are going to be interest only. So make sure that you're doing that simple math there. And I would prefer if I'm giving advice the second liens, the he loan, which is closed ended, very much like your first mortgage, it's just in second lien position. It's amortized over a certain period of time, closed ended. Not as big a fan of that. If you can find the second liens, especially for non owner occupied, I would encourage it to be that open ended HELOC type.    Keith Weinhold  22:15   What are we looking at for combined loan to value ratios with second mortgages    Caeli Ridge  22:19   on an owner occupied I think you'd be happy to get 90. I think I've heard that in some cases, they can go up to 95% in my opinion, that would go as high as they'll let you go right on a non owner occupied, I think you'd be real lucky to find 80, and probably closer to 70.    Keith Weinhold  22:34   That really helps a lot with our planning. Well, the administration that came in this year has made some changes that can create some upheaval, some things to pay attention to in the mortgage market. We're going to talk about that when we come back. You're listening to get rich education. Our guest is Ridge lending Group President, Caeli Ridge I'm your host, Keith Weinhold.    The same place where I get my own mortgage loans is where you can get yours. Ridge lending group  NMLS, 42056, they provided our listeners with more loans than anyone because they specialize in income properties. They help you build a long term plan for growing your real estate empire with leverage. 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Well. He had recently, I think in the last couple of weeks, he put out in the news wires asking for feedback from the powers that be, related to Fannie and Freddie, what improvements they would like to see. So first up was Jim neighbors. He is the president of the mortgage brokers Association. He had a few very specific wish list items, if you will. And the first one on his list was the elimination of LLP, as for non owner occupied and second home. So let me just kind of paint a picture here, because there's some backstory I think is important. So an LLPA, for those of you that have never heard that term before, stands for a loan level price adjustment. And a loan level price adjustment is a positive number or a negative number that associates with the individual loan characteristics. So things like loan to value or loan size, occupancy is a big ll PA, the difference between an owner occupied where you live and one that you're going to use as a rental property, that's a big one. Credit score, property type, is it a single family? Is it a two to four? Is this a purchase? Is it a refi? Anyway, all of those different characteristics are ll pas. Well, if we take a step back in time, gosh, about three years ago now, Mark Calabria, at the time, was the director of the FHFA, and he had imposed increases, specific increases. This was middle of 22 I want to say specific increases to the LL pas for non owner occupied property. So if anybody kind of remembers that time, we started to really see points and interest rates take that jump sometime in 2022 more than just the traditional interest rate market and the fluctuations. This was very material to investment property and second home, but we'll focus on the investment property. So Mr. Jim neighbors came in and said, first and foremost, I'd like to see those removed, and I want to read something to the listeners here, because I thought it was very interesting. This is something I've been kind of preaching from the the rooftops, if you will, for many, many years. Yeah, we've got neighbors sticking up for investors here. He really is. And I Yeah, well, yes, he is. And more often than not, they're focused on the owner occupied so I'm just going to kind of read. I've got my cheat sheet here. I want to make sure I get it all right for everybody. So removal of the loan level price adjustments on investment properties and second homes, he noted that these risk based fees charged by Fannie and Freddie discourage responsible buyers from purchasing second homes and investment properties, with that insignificant increase to cost. And here's the important part, originally introduced to account for additional credit risk, many of the pandemic era llpa increases were not based on updated risk metric. In fact, data has shown that loans secured by investment properties often have strong credit profiles and lower than expected default rates. I mean, anybody that has been around long enough to see what we've come from, like, 08,09, and when we had the calamity of right, the barrier for entry for us to get any conventional financing as investors has been harsh. I mean, I make that stupid joke of vials of blend DNA samples. But aside from it being an icebreaker, it kind of feels true. We really get the short end of the stick. And I feel like as investors especially, post 08,09, our credit profiles, our qualifications, the bar is so high for us, the default risk there has largely been removed. We've got so much skin in the game. With 20 25% down, credit score is much higher, debt to income ratios more scrutinized, etc, etc. So I think that this is, if it passes muster. I think this is going to be a real big win for the non owner occupied side of agency, Fannie, Mae, Freddie, Mac lending.   Keith Weinhold  29:13    The conventional wisdom is, is that if you the borrower, get into financial trouble, you're more likely to walk away from your rental properties than you are your own home and neighbors, sort of like a good neighbor here sticking up for us and stating that, hey, us, the investors, we're actually highly credit worthy people.   Caeli Ridge  29:29   Yeah, absolutely. So fingers crossed. Everybody say your prayers to the llpa and mortgage investor rates gods.   Keith Weinhold  29:37   we'll be attentive to that. What other sorts of changes do we have with the administration? For example, I know that Trump and some others in the administration have talked about privatizing the GSEs, those government sponsored enterprises, Fannie, Mae, Freddie Mac and what kind of disruption that would create for the industry. Is it really any credence to that?   Caeli Ridge  29:58   They've been talking about it for. For quite a while. I mean, as long as Trump has been kind of on the scene, that's been maybe a wish list for him. I don't see that happening over the next years. That is an absolute behemoth to unpack and make a reality. Speaking of Mark Calabria, he was really hot and heavy on the trails of doing that. So what this is, you guys so fatty Freddy, are in conservatorship that happened back post 08,09, and privatizing them and making them where it is not funded, or conservatorship within the United States government. Now it still has those guarantees against default. It's a very complicated, complex, nuanced dynamic of mortgage backed securities, but if we were to privatize them at some point now, am I saying that that's a bad thing? No, not necessarily, but I think it has to be very carefully executed, and because there are so many moving parts, I do not think that just one term of presidency is going to make that happen. If we do it, it's going to be years down the road from now. Is my crystal ball. I don't think we're going to see that anytime soon.    Keith Weinhold  30:58   That's interesting to know. Are there any other industry changes that are important, especially for investors, whether that has to do with the change in administration or anything else?   Caeli Ridge  31:08    Well, specific to that wish list from Mr. Neighbors, one of the other things that he had asked, and there were quite a few, for owner occupied changes as well, he wants to reduce the seasoning for cash out refinances of investment properties, which would be huge good. Yeah, right now it's 12 months on a cash out refinance given very specific acquisition details. Okay, I won't go down that rabbit hole, but currently, if you haven't met exactly these certain benchmarks, you may have to wait 12 months to pull cash out of a property from the day that you acquire it, he's asking that that be pulled back to about six months, which would be nice   Keith Weinhold  31:46   reducing the seasoning period from 12 months to six months, meaning that an investor a borrower, would only need to own that property for that shorter duration of time prior to performing a refinance.   Caeli Ridge  31:58    Cash out refinance, no seasoning required on a rate and term. This is specific for cash out. But again, for cash out, but exactly right   Keith Weinhold  32:04   now, one trend that I think about sometimes, especially when I think back to 2008 2009 days since I was an investor through that time, is, are there any signs in the reduction of the appetite or the propensity to lend, to make loans. So how freely is credit flowing?    Caeli Ridge  32:25   I think pretty freely. I'm not seeing that they're tightening the purse strings. That's not the lens that I'm looking at it from, and I try to keep that brush stroke broad. There have been, I think that on the post, close side, there's been a little extra from Fannie Freddie, and I think that has to do with profitability markers. But overall, I'm not seeing that products are disappearing necessarily, or that guidelines are really becoming even more cumbersome. If anything, I would say it's maybe the reverse of that, and I do believe that probably is part and parcel to this administration and the real estate background that comes with it.   Keith Weinhold  32:59   One other thing I pay attention to, but it just really hasn't been much of a story lately. Are delinquencies in foreclosures. It seems like they've ticked up a little bit, but they're still both really historically low and basically a delinquency being defined as when a borrower makes one late payment, and foreclosures being the more severe thing, typically a 120 days late or more. Any trends there? I'm not   Caeli Ridge  33:24   seeing any now. And in fact, I would tell you that, because we focus so much on investor needs, first payment default is I can count on less than one hand, if I had to, how many times I've seen that happen with our clients over 25 years. So nothing noteworthy there for me.    Keith Weinhold  33:40   Yes. I mean, today's borrowers are just flush with equity. Nationally, there's a loan to value ratio of 47% which is healthy, in a sense. On average, borrowers have a 53% equity position. Of course, the next thing, I think, is like, I don't really know if that's a smart strategy. They're not really getting that much leverage out there. But I think a lot of people just have the old mentality of get it paid off.    Caeli Ridge  34:06   And I think that depending on where you are in your journey, I mean, if you're in phase three, right, where you're just really looking at these investments, these nest eggs to carry you into your retirement and or for legacy reasons, fine, but otherwise, I may argue the point in that I don't care that you have a 3% interest rate on an investment property, or whatever it may be, if it's sitting there idle and as long as it can cash flow, the true chances of those individuals of keeping that mortgage that they got in 2020, 2021, etc, at those ridiculously low interest rates and stroking 360 payments later to pay it to zero is a fraction of a percent right now, whether they're on the sidelines for something else, I don't know, but that debt, equity, I think, is hurting them more than a 3% interest rate is helping them.   Keith Weinhold  34:52    And a lot of times, the mindset of someone is, if they don't need to build wealth anymore, and they're older and they already built wealth, they don't care if they're loaned to value. Was down to zero, and they have it paid off, whereas someone that's in the wealth building phase probably wants to get more leverage. Yeah, Chaley at risk lending group, there you see so many applications come in, and especially since you're an investor centric lender, I like to ask you what trends you're seeing. What are people buying? What are people doing? Are they refinancing? Are they paying loans off? Are they trying to take out more credit? Are there any overall trends with investors that you see in there    Caeli Ridge  35:29   right now? I think the all in one is a clear winner there. The all in one, that first lien, HELOC, that you and I talked about, we broke my little corner of the internet with that one, that one is a front runner for sure, on the refinance side, specifically, we are seeing quite a bit more on the refi side of things, that equity is kind of just sitting there. So even though, if the on one isn't a good fit for them, I'm seeing investors that are willing to tap into that equity instead of just sitting around and waiting for them to potentially lose some equity if the housing market does start to take some decline. And then I would say, on the purchase transaction side, something that's kind of piqued my interest is the pad split. I'm looking at that more often where, for those that are not familiar, you can probably speak more to this, Keith, they're buying single family resident properties, even two to four unit properties, and a per bedroom basis, turning those into rental properties. And they're looking to be quite profitable. So I've got my eyes on that too.   Keith Weinhold  36:23   before we ask how we can learn more about you and what you do in there at Ridge Kayle. Is there any last thing that you'd like to share? Maybe a question I did not think about asking you, but should have.    Caeli Ridge  36:35   I would like to share with your listeners that if they are not working with a lender that focuses on their education and has that diversity of loan product that we have, that they're probably in the wrong support group. You need to be working with a lender that has a nationwide footprint and that has diversity of loan product to cover whatever methodology of real estate investing that you're looking for, and really puts a fine touch on the education of your qualifications and your goals as they relate to underwriters guidelines   Keith Weinhold  37:10   what we're talking about, and I know this through my own experience in dealing with Ridge, since I use them for my own loans myself, is sometimes Ridge might inform You that, hey, you can go and do this and make this deal now, but that's going to mess up this bigger thing 12 months down the road, whereas if you talk with an everyday sort of owner occupant mortgage company, oh, they're just not going to talk like that, because owner occupants, they might only buy every seven years, or something like that. And investors are different, and you need to have that foresight and look ahead. Caeli, this has been great, a really informative conversation about the pulse of the market. Tell us what products that you offer in there.   Caeli Ridge  37:50   Our menu is very, very diverse. I would say what. It's probably easier to describe what we don't offer. We do not have bear lot loans or land loans. We're not offering those right now. We do not have second lien HELOCs currently. We suspended that two years ago. But otherwise, guys, we're going to have everything that you're going to need. So just very quickly, I'll rattle off Fannie Freddie, okay, those golden tickets that we talk about, we've got DSCR loans, bank statement loans, asset depletion loans, ground up construction, short term bridge loans for fix and flip or fix and hold. We have our All In One that's my favorite first lien. HELOC, we have commercial loan products for commercial property and residential on a cross collateralization basis. So very, very robust in the loan product space.   Keith Weinhold  38:33   Caeli Ridge, it's been valuable as always. And then Ridge lending group.com, or your phone number   Caeli Ridge  38:39   855-747-4343, 855-74-RIDGE, , and then to reach us an email, if that's your better mechanism to contact us info@ridgelendinggroup.com   Keith Weinhold  38:50   that's been valuable as always. Thanks so much for coming back onto the show.    Caeli Ridge  38:53   Appreciate it. Keith,   Keith Weinhold  39:00   Yeah, terrific information from Chaley. As always, if you're enamored of borrowing tax free, like a billionaire, against your real estate, they sure can help you out with that and determine whether that's right. It doesn't mean that you always should, but if you have investment ideas for debt equity, and you're attentive to cash flows, run the numbers with them and see if it's worthwhile. As far as new purchases, we all know that soured affordability has made it especially tough for first time homebuyers, and there's more data out there that shows that tenant durations are historically long, longer than they usually are. Tenants are staying in places longer because they have to. Investor purchases have stayed strong, though investors have been buying about the same proportion of single family homes and making them rentals that they have historically and Redfin tells us that. The value of properties that investors have purchased is up more than 6% year over year, so investors are still buying and that makes sense. We're in this era where there's more uncertainty than usual, there's higher stock volatility than usual, and more people are sort of asking themselves, where would I get a better return than on income property, and where would my return be more stable today than in income property as well? If you work with Ridge lending group for a time, you're probably going to understand why I personally use them for my own loans. You'll notice that they really understand what investors need. Thanks to Caeli Ridge today and thank you for being here too. But as always, you weren't here for me. You were here for you until next week. I'm your host. Keith Weinhold, don't quit your Daydream.   Speaker 3  40:56   Nothing on this show should be considered specific personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. 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Does Financial Freedom Really Look How You Think?Most people chase financial freedom based on what they see — fancy cars, big houses, early retirement. But what if that version of freedom isn't what you actually want? In this episode of the Deal Pro Podcast, I'm joined by DeAndre Clayton to unpack what real financial freedom looks like for everyday professionals who value purpose, peace, and family time.We talk about the plans vs purpose trap, why chasing status leaves you empty, and how to design a life that feels free — even if it doesn't look flashy. Whether you're brand new to real estate or simply want to get back to what matters most, this episode will help you gain clarity and control.Highlights in this episode:Why you don't need 100 rentals to hit $20K/monthHow to pivot without losing your purposeTools like first lien HELOCs and infinite banking that create time freedomThe overlooked definition of “freedom” for family-first entrepreneursMentioned in the episode:Connect with DeAndre Clayton: https://dealproacademy.com/dclaytonFree Real Estate Strategy Map & JV Agreement: https://dealproacademy.com/freetrainingMore from Jamel Gibbs: https://linktr.ee/jamelgibbs

Derek Moran, Senior Vice President of US RMBS Ratings at Morningstar DBRS, joins host Patrick Dolan to explore home equity sharing agreements, their repayment structures, fees and how they compare to HELOCs. The discussion highlights key risks and increasing regulatory attention under the Trump Administration's CFPB.Listen and subscribe to the Securitization Insight podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your preferred podcast app.

On this Talking Real Money episode, Don and Tom tag-team one of the biggest financial myths around: your house as a retirement plan. With over $35 trillion locked in U.S. home equity, they challenge the idea that owning a home equals wealth. From the emotional pull of mortgage payoffs to the liquidity traps of reverse mortgages and HELOCs, the duo breaks down the risks, rewards, and real returns of homeownership. Then it's on to listener questions about IRAs, 401(k)s, rollovers, and... fiber (yes, the breakfast and internet kind). And they end with a little brag—because 154,000 monthly listeners can't be wrong. 0:04 $35 trillion tied up in homes—does that make us rich or just house-poor?1:20 Post-COVID home equity boom: 80% growth, but at what cost?2:53 Renting vs. buying: the case for liquidity over bricks3:44 Property tax pain for retirees and why Florida isn't so tax-free after all4:21 Mortgage payoff: emotional win, financial mistake?5:48 Why home equity shouldn't be your retirement income plan6:37 Housing's historic returns: barely 3% pre-inflation7:54 Forced savings illusion and the real cost of home improvements8:45 If you'd invested instead of buying… you'd have more9:35 Reverse mortgages, HELOCs, and why it's harder to get cash out10:19 Home equity lines now ~8%—not cheap or easy to get12:30 Big picture: don't include home equity in your retirement spending plan14:05 Florida vs. California: which really costs more to live in?16:38 Insurance, taxes, and Florida's fraud problem18:50 Listener Q: Can you do both an IRA and a 401(k) in the same year? (Yes.)20:40 IRA vs. 401(k): pros, cons, and personal strategy22:53 Listener Q: Should we roll an old 403(b) to a Roth IRA?23:44 Talking Real Money's audience numbers: brag-worthy and booming25:19 Retirement prep tip: match income to lifestyle before you retire Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Send us a textThink reverse mortgages are only for those in financial distress? Think again! In this episode, Kevin Guttman, a leading expert in reverse mortgages, debunks common myths and reveals how savvy retirees are leveraging their home equity as a powerful tool for wealth-building, legacy creation, and more.In this insightful episode, Kevin Guttman breaks down how reverse mortgages have evolved from a misunderstood financial tool to a strategic asset for wealth-building.Key Takeaways:What is a Reverse Mortgage? A reverse mortgage allows homeowners aged 62+ to convert home equity into tax-free funding without the burden of monthly mortgage payments.Myth-Busting Reverse Mortgages: Common misconceptions include fears of losing home ownership or the loans being “too expensive.”Strategic Uses of Reverse Mortgages: From increasing buying power and accessing long-term care funding to creating wealth through real estate and investment.Key Differences from HELOCs and Traditional Mortgages: Unlike traditional loans, reverse mortgages don't require monthly payments, and interest is deferred.

In this episode of 'The Tactical Empire,' host Jeff Smith is joined by Sean Rider to discuss strategies and tools for achieving financial freedom through real estate. They begin by sharing personal anecdotes and experiences before diving into a detailed discussion about leveraging equity for property investments. The episode breaks down a real-life scenario involving a member of their group looking to invest in a rental property. Jeff and Sean analyze the situation, offering advice on inspections, financing, and potential outcomes. They emphasize the importance of taking decisive action and explore various ways to maximize investment returns. The episode rounds off with the benefits of participating in a mastermind group and leveraging expertise to make informed decisions.00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:35 Family Vacation Recap02:22 Current Location and Activities03:43 Real Estate Questions and Strategies04:19 Analyzing a Real Estate Deal16:52 Financial Tools and Strategies25:29 Conclusion and Call to Action

Can real estate actually boost your retirement plan? Is renting a property a reliable source of income, or just added stress? The short answer: it depends. In this episode, Phil breaks down the many ways real estate can support- or complicate- your retirement strategy. From rental properties and house flipping to reverse mortgages, REITs, and home equity lines of credit (HELOCs), this episode covers the most common approaches people consider and the mistakes they don't always see coming.   Here's some of what we discuss in this episode:

On this week's episode of "Financial Planning: Explained”, host Michael Menninger, CFP is join by with Nick DeVito, CFP. Nick is a financial planner at Menninger & Associates Financial Planning. Of the six areas of financial planning, this episode covers cash management. In this episode, Mike and Nick discuss a case study of a recent prospect. The guys discuss switching to a Roth 401(k), maximizing 401(k) match, HELOCs, and paying down debt. This is a great episode for anyone who is unsure about the best channels to not only manage cash flow, but pay down your debt. For more information on Menninger & Associates Financial Planning visit https://maaplanning.com

Home Loans Radio 04.19.2025 With That Mortgage Guy- Reverse Rates are Down and so are Purchase rates= Great time for a HELOCs too.

Andrew Freed turned one condo into a rental property portfolio that makes him $10,000 per month! Just four years ago, Andrew had little to his name—around $50,000 and a $200,000 condo. That's what a decade of working had gotten him, but to Andrew, it was a sign he wasn't doing enough. Like most real estate investors, Andrew stumbled upon Rich Dad Poor Dad and made an immediate change that would propel him to financial freedom. Four years later, he's there—quitting his job and going full-time into real estate. How did he do it? Simple. “Recycling” his money is what allowed Andrew to scale so quickly. A HELOC (home equity line of credit) on his condo gave him the money for his first small multifamily—a house hack that would help him live for free. With each new property, he'd get a new HELOC and use it to grow his portfolio even faster.  Now, Andrew has a sizable real estate portfolio, personally paying him six figures a year, while he focuses on the next property. If you want to quit your job and give real estate your all, you can do what Andrew did, recycling your money to build your wealth—and you can start with just a condo! In This Episode We Cover: How to use HELOCs (home equity lines of credit) to quickly fund your first real estate deal Using the BRRRR method (buy, rehab, rent, refinance, repeat) to buy rentals for essentially $0  The “sweet spot” multifamily properties that are easier to manage and boast big cash flow  How to take down huge real estate deals when you don't have the money  Why buying portfolios of properties (not single properties) is the cheat code for faster financial freedom  And So Much More! Links from the Show Join BiggerPockets for FREE Let Us Know What You Thought of the Show! Ask Your Question on the BiggerPockets Forums BiggerPockets YouTube Apply to Be a BiggerPockets Real Estate Guest Try REsimpli, The Only All-In-One Real Estate Investor CRM Software That Helps You Manage Data, Marketing, Sales, and Operations Get $100 Off BPCon 2025 Start with Strategy Rich Dad Poor Dad Real Estate Rookie 267 - 24 Units in 2 Years by Making Your Rentals Match the Market w/Andrew Freed BiggerPockets Real Estate 1085 - Making $200K/Year With the Least Amount of Rentals Possible w/Dion McNeeley Connect with Dave Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-1111 Interested in learning more about today's sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email advertise@biggerpockets.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Learn how to stay calm during market volatility and whether a HELOC or cash-out refi makes sense for your home reno goals. What should you do with your investments when the stock market is particularly volatile? What's the difference between a HELOC and a cash-out refinance? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola discuss coping with market volatility as well as borrowing against home equity to help you understand how to navigate uncertainty and also make smart decisions about home renovations. First, NerdWallet senior news writer Anna Helhoski and investing writer Sam Taube offer different strategies for approaching recent market volatility, including tips for ignoring short-term investment noise, building financial resilience, and understanding how tariffs affect the economy. Then, NerdWallet mortgage writer Kate Wood joins Sean and Elizabeth to discuss how to borrow against your home's value. They discuss the pros and cons of home equity lines of credit (HELOCs) and cash-out refinances, how to evaluate which option may suit your renovation goals, and strategies to avoid financial regret down the road. NerdWallet's free HELOC calculator can help you figure out whether you could be eligible for a home equity line of credit—and how much you might be able to borrow: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/mortgages/heloc-calculator  In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: stock market volatility, what to do when the stock market drops, HELOC vs cash-out refinance, home equity loan pros and cons, how to fund home renovations, building financial resilience, emergency fund tips, tariffs and the stock market, inflation and investments, Fed interest rate policy, bear market meaning, market downturn tips, investing during volatility, how tariffs affect the economy, bond ladder strategy, best time for HELOC, home equity loan risks, saving for home renovation, California home prices, budgeting for renovations, mortgage and equity options, financial impact of home improvements, refinance or HELOC for renovations, Vanguard FTSE All-World Ex-US ETF, iShares Core U.S. Aggregate Bond ETF, international stocks vs US stocks, when to use a cash-out refinance, credit card debt vs investing, student loans and home equity, home improvement timeline planning, setting renovation budgets, housing equity strategies, planning for college savings, market correction vs crash, coping with investment stress, and financial planning in uncertain times. To send the Nerds your money questions, call or text the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373 or email podcast@nerdwallet.com. Like what you hear? Please leave us a review and tell a friend.

In this segment, we tackle the challenges of using the BRRRR method in today's real estate market. Learn how to adapt your strategies by incorporating HELOCs as an alternative to refinancing. Discover how small adjustments can safeguard your investments and create opportunities for growth, even in uncertain economic conditions. RESOURCES:  [BACKFLIP] Struggling with property data and financing? Discover Backflip—the all-in-one platform that instantly analyzes properties, pulls high-quality comps, and provides fast evaluations. Plus, apply for loans directly through the app and get help choosing the right investment strategy. Transform your real estate investing today! Click HERE to download the Backflip app.  [OILI EXPERIENCE] Use code PODCAST10 to get 10% off your ticket to the Owning It and Living It Experience, November 1-3 in Atlanta, Georgia! Don't miss out on learning from top industry experts like Henry Washington, Kendra Barnes, Jackie and Preston Perry, Lecrae Moore, and more. Plus, I'm giving away a fully renovated house—this year only! No virtual tickets—be in the room to level up your real estate game and immerse yourself in a unique blend of culture and knowledge. Click HERE to get your ticket.  [FREE CONSULTATION] Looking to buy, sell, or invest in real estate in Atlanta? My team of expert, investor-friendly agents is here to help! Book a free 15-minute consultation with one of my agents today, and let's figure out your next move together. [FB GROUP] Loving the podcast and want to connect with me and our incredible guests? Join the Owning It and Living It Facebook group! It's your go-to spot for real estate tips, advice, and a supportive community of investors just like you. Join us today and let's take your real estate journey to the next level.  Erika Brown IG: @erikabrowninvestor LinkedIn: @erika brown Wealth Within Reach is produced by EPYC Media Network

Mortgage and real estate expert David Hochberg joins John Williams to talk about car loans and interest rates, if people use HELOCs to buy cars, his thoughts on the impact of tariffs on the economy and the housing market, and why homeowners insurance is going up. Oh, and take a trip with David to Normandy! […]

Mortgage and real estate expert David Hochberg joins John Williams to talk about car loans and interest rates, if people use HELOCs to buy cars, his thoughts on the impact of tariffs on the economy and the housing market, and why homeowners insurance is going up. Oh, and take a trip with David to Normandy! […]

Mortgage and real estate expert David Hochberg joins John Williams to talk about car loans and interest rates, if people use HELOCs to buy cars, his thoughts on the impact of tariffs on the economy and the housing market, and why homeowners insurance is going up. Oh, and take a trip with David to Normandy! […]

Send us a textJoin host Vinki Loomba, real estate investor and fund manager, as she dives deep with Alan Franks, Certified Financial Planner, speaker, and author of Empowered Money. With 15+ years of experience helping high-level professionals master wealth-building and tax strategy, Alan reveals how to move beyond “getting rich” and start preserving and amplifying wealth across generations.

Scaling from 0 to 70 units didn't happen overnight. It took strategic financing, smart partnerships, and relentless execution. In this episode, we sit down with the Zero to 100 Podcast to break down exactly how we did it, and how you can too.We share the key strategies that fueled our growth, from leveraging HELOCs and creative financing to building high-impact partnerships that accelerated our deal flow. We also discuss the mindset shifts and tough lessons learned that helped us push through obstacles and stay in the game.If you're looking to buy your first rental or scale your existing portfolio, this episode gives you a blueprint for success. It's packed with real-world insights you can start using today. We hope you enjoy the conversation as much as we had being part of it! RESOURCES

D.O. explores how mortgage professionals can leverage the massive $35 trillion in home equity through HELOCs and HELOANs. Learn the key differences between these products, when to recommend each option, and practical strategies to help your clients tap into their home equity responsibly. Whether you're looking to expand your product knowledge or better serve homeowners in today's high-rate environment, this episode delivers actionable insights every loan officer needs.

Send us a textThe financial landscape is shifting dramatically, and Martin Perdomo, the Elite Strategist, breaks down three major developments that could reshape your investment strategy in 2025 and beyond.HELOC rates have fallen to their lowest point in two years at 7.29%, following the Federal Reserve's decision to cut interest rates by 1.5 percentage points since late 2024. This creates a significant opportunity for homeowners to save thousands over the life of their loans—up to $700 annually on a $50,000 HELOC compared to last year's rates. For the financially educated, this isn't just about savings; it's about strategic wealth-building. As Martin explains, when used properly, HELOCs become powerful investment tools, particularly for real estate ventures that can generate substantial returns when executed with discipline and knowledge.Former President Trump's announcement of new tariffs on Mexican and Canadian imports effective March 2025 represents another seismic shift. These tariffs—reaching as high as 20% on some goods—will impact approximately $200 billion in annual trade across North America. The automotive industry faces particular disruption with projected 10-12% cost increases per vehicle. This raises profound questions about the balance between short-term economic pain and long-term strategic benefits. Are we witnessing the economic embodiment of "sacrificing short-term pleasure for long-term gain"—the principle that underlies most wealth-building strategies? The answer remains hotly debated.Meanwhile, companies violating export regulations face increasingly severe penalties, with over $500 million in fines issued in 2024 alone. This enforcement particularly targets sensitive technologies with potential military applications being exported to strategic competitors like China and Russia. For businesses operating in these sectors, compliance has never been more critical as penalties continue to escalate under intensified national security concerns.Ready to navigate these complex financial waters with expert guidance? Visit wealthiafai to schedule a 30-minute strategy call and discover how our private community can help you leverage these market shifts to build sustainable wealth.Support the showIntroducing the 60-Day Deal Finder!Visit: www.wealthyAF.aiUse the Coupon Code: WEALTHYAF for 20% off!

In this episode of Home Business Profits, Ray Higdon dives into effective strategies for paying off debt smartly with his guest, Josh Valentine.   Josh, an expert in helping individuals reduce or eliminate debt, discusses the pitfalls of high-interest credit card debt and the common mistakes people make when trying to manage their debt. He offers insights into how his program works to negotiate settlements with creditors, resulting in significant savings. Ray and Josh also touch upon the misconceptions about maintaining a good credit score while in debt and the dangers of debt consolidation loans and converting unsecured debt to secured debt through options like HELOCs.   Tune in to learn why focusing on eliminating debt rather than preserving credit scores can lead to financial freedom and peace of mind.   Be FREE from DEBT! Let us help you - https://advocatefin.com/ray   ——

Clay White has done the seemingly impossible. He's bought five rental properties, completed multiple flips, and done it all in the past fifteen months with high mortgage rates. To make it more impressive, he did it WITHOUT a W2 job at just twenty-three years old! So what sets Clay apart from ninety-nine percent of other investors? As you'll hear in today's episode, he went through an almost comical amount of failures, but how he solved them makes him an elite investor. If you think you missed the boat on real estate investing, Clay proves that you couldn't be more wrong. He not only built an entire rental portfolio in one of the most challenging times to invest but did it with no consistent income, no experience, and in a market you've probably never heard of. If you can follow Clay's advice, mimic his ingenuity and tenacity for problem-solving, and are willing to put up with small failures to achieve massive success, you, too, will be able to build serious wealth, no matter your timeline, no matter your age, and no matter your job. In This Episode We Cover: How to invest in real estate even if you've got little money (and no job!)  Returning a house after you bought it (yes, you can do this!)  Why bringing in a partner is an excellent idea for your first real estate investment  Clay's straightforward solution when you can't find the right licensed contractor  Cash-out refinances vs. HELOCs and when to use each to pull out equity  Why you should always overestimate your home renovation costs  And So Much More! Links from the Show Join BiggerPockets for FREE Let Us Know What You Thought of the Show! Learn How to Flip Houses with “The House Flipping Framework” Find Investor-Friendly Lenders The Rookie's Step-by-Step Guide to Home Renovation Projects Connect with Clay Connect with Henry Connect with Dave (00:00) Intro (01:04) Refusing To Get a 9-5 (04:23) Buying (and Returning!) a House (07:58) Home Run Second Deal (12:54) Rebuilding a Duplex (16:52) Using Equity to Flip a House (26:38) Final Flip Numbers (27:49) A Flip Goes Wrong…Again (31:04) Financing Deals (33:13) Buying Even MORE Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-1042 Interested in learning more about today's sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email advertise@biggerpockets.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices