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#751: The belief that's quietly sabotaging your progress might not even be true. Free worksheet to question it: https://affordanything.com/turn-it-around Two people can grow up with the exact same test scores — and as adults, one of them ends up earning double the other. Psychologist Marisa Franco says the deciding factor isn't intelligence, and it isn't luck. It's whether you actually believe good things are allowed to happen to you. Dr. Marisa Franco is a psychologist and professor at the University of Maryland, and the New York Times bestselling author of Platonic. She's back to talk about her new book, Worth: The New Science of Self-Esteem and Secure Attachment. In this episode, we discuss: How self-worth — not intelligence or family income — predicts how much you'll earn as an adult Why some people quietly sabotage their own portfolio right before they hit financial independence The difference between "good" and "bad" high self-esteem, and why one of them wrecks relationships Why getting more love or praise than you expect can make you pull away instead of lean in How to actually process a hard emotion instead of shoving it down Why hitting a big financial goal can leave you feeling strangely empty once you get there How to rebuild your sense of self after losing an identity you were attached to Whether you've ever undermined your own progress right before a finish line, or wondered why reaching a goal didn't feel the way you thought it would, this episode gives you a framework for understanding — and changing — that pattern. ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS Note: Timestamps may vary slightly depending on dynamic ad placements. (02:05) The two very different types of high self-esteem (04:36) Self-esteem vs. self-worth: the real difference (05:37) Why self-worth predicts income more than SAT scores (12:21) Sabotaging your own portfolio right before you hit FI (14:15) The self-fulfilling prophecy behind financial fear (23:36) Why too much love can make you pull away (25:05) How low self-worth blocks promotions and job offers (36:13) The memory trick that can change your brain (46:19) Why self-worth matters most in a bad market (1:06:10) Does self-worth actually drive your net worth?

#750: Free worksheet: question the belief that might be keeping you stuck — before reality forces the update for you: http://affordanything.com/turn-it-around Alec Litowitz spent three decades building one of the world's largest hedge funds, and he says the highest-IQ people in the room are often the last to notice the world has changed. His answer isn't more intelligence — it's the willingness to be wrong, quickly, and update before everyone else catches up. Alec co-founded Citadel alongside Ken Griffin and later founded Magnetar Capital, one of the largest alternative asset managers in the world. His new book, The Adaptability Quotient, is out September 15. In this episode, we discuss: How adaptability quotient (AQ) differs from IQ and EQ — and why it matters more now What a doomed Antarctic expedition reveals about real adaptability Why AI makes knowledge abundant and judgment scarce How to stop needing to be right so you can update faster The real reason Blockbuster lost to Netflix (it wasn't a bad decision) A 4-part test for telling a temporary shift from a permanent one Why a "diversified" portfolio might secretly be one big bet right now This episode is for anyone whose career, portfolio, or plans feel less certain than they used to — a way of thinking that doesn't require predicting the future, just noticing when your old model has stopped working. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#749: Michael Hingson was on the 78th floor of the North Tower of the World Trade Center when the first plane hit on Sept. 11. He felt the impact, but couldn't see it. Michael has been blind since shortly after birth. Alongside his guide dog, Roselle, they descended 1,463 steps – escaping just before the South Tower, 100 yards away, collapsed. They then helped a woman who was temporarily blinded by the dust. Michael's story answers the question – What do you do when something terrifying is happening, you don't have enough information, you cannot control the outcome, and everyone around you is beginning to panic? Michael's answer is surprisingly practical. 1. Prepare before you need the preparation. 2. Know what you know, know what you don't know. 3. Stop mentally rehearsing outcomes you cannot control 4. Keep acting on the part that remains within your control. He had deliberately learned the World Trade Center's exits, emergency procedures, physical layout, and systems long before Sept 11 because he believed that was part of being responsible for his office. When the building was struck, he describes that preparation as a “mindset” that simply kicked in. ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS Note: Timestamps may vary slightly depending on dynamic ad placements. (00:00) Life before September 11 (24:34) The plane hits the North Tower (34:03) Fear takes over in the stairwell (1:04:01) Turning tragedy into a new career (1:28:02) Challenging attitudes about blindness (1:38:01) Supporting guide dog organizations

#748: The real question behind quitting a job you love or paying off debt anyway? Your money mindset. Take our free quiz to find yours: https://affordanything.com/fiire A listener with $686,000 saved and a job she loves wants to take her family on a year-long trip — but Paula says her real question isn't about money at all. Later: a dad chooses to stop maxing his IRA to pay off a mortgage, even though the math says otherwise. Joe joins from the road to help answer three listener questions: a family weighing a year off against a job she loves, a dad debating whether to stop maxing his IRA to pay off a house, and a longtime listener with a smarter way to save for college. In this episode, we discuss: How to decide whether a job you love is worth walking away from for a family gap year The three factors that actually predict whether you'll love your next job Why "retiring early" might be the wrong goal — and what to aim for instead How to know if you're financially ready for a career break, and what to prep first Why paying off your mortgage can beat investing, even when the math says otherwise How to structure your mortgage term like a finance pro (and why the 30-year can win) Why saving in separate, labeled accounts makes it easier to actually hit your goals Whether you're weighing a big life pivot, deciding what to do with extra cash, or just trying to make saving feel less abstract, this episode offers frameworks — not just formulas — for making the call. ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS Note: Timestamps may vary slightly depending on dynamic ad placements. (07:12) Can you afford to quit a job you love? (11:09) Three things that actually predict job satisfaction (17:05) Why this window with your kids won't come twice (22:20) Why retiring often beats retiring early (30:14) Why bad trip experiences count as good data (34:18) Why paying off debt can beat the math (36:49) Why coasting on your current savings pace is risky (44:26) How to think like a CFO about your mortgage (51:09) Why one bucket per goal makes saving easier (53:46) Why your 401k isn't really about retirement

#747: We have good news on multiple fronts to share about the job market, the stock market, the commodities market, and volatile news around the bond market. And we begin it with some great news coming out of Nepal. Welcome to the First Friday episode for September 2026. ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS Note: Timestamps may vary slightly depending on dynamic ad placements. (00:00) Rescued workers in Nepal (04:53) Strong August jobs report (10:14) Conflicting employment data (12:27) Strong jobs, weaker stocks (17:43) Why bonds matter more (23:17) Inflation drives Treasury yields (29:45) Hidden risks in bonds (36:50) Treasury buyback controversy (43:32) Liquidity versus warning signs

#746: We begin today's episode with a discussion of the disastrous flash flooding in Nepal, a personal topic for Paula given her family there. There's both a human story, one of the resilience of the Nepalese people and the strong community bonds there, and an economic story, where poor infrastructure and a lack of economic development have hindered disaster response and exacerbated the tragedies of recent events.  Listeners can donate to help the victims here:  The Prime Minister Relief Fund: https://pmdrf.nchl.com.np/ Caritas Nepal: https://www.caritasnepal.org/donate-now/ Learn more about the ongoing rescue efforts at https://help.ekantipur.com/ A caller wants to put part of her mom's $80,000 home-sale proceeds into an annuity — and it left her financial-planner co-host doing a double take. Turns out it might be the first caller in the show's history the product was actually built for. This week's Q&A tackles two retirement questions from listeners: when it makes sense to ease off maxing out a 401k in favor of a more flexible brokerage account, and whether a guaranteed-income annuity is the right move for a retiree who isn't great at managing money on her own. In this episode, we discuss: How to know when to stop maxing out your 401k and start filling a taxable brokerage account instead The real "deal" you're making with the government every time you use a tax-advantaged account Why an insurance company can keep 100% of the money if the annuity holder dies too soon — and how to avoid it The one type of person a guaranteed-income annuity is actually built for A simple daily habit trick for building consistency, borrowed from a world-class choreographer Why doing everything right doesn't guarantee a good outcome, and what that means for your own decisions What Nepal's disaster response reveals about the real payoff of economic development Whether you're mapping out an early-retirement bridge or helping a parent build guardrails around a windfall, this episode will help you think more clearly about the trade-offs each option carries.

#745: A friend once asked Sahil Bloom how often he saw his parents. About once a year, Sahil said. How old are they? Mid-60s. His friend did the math out loud. If they live to 80, you'll see them 15 more times. Sahil was 30, living in California and making great money at a venture fund. Within 45 days of that conversation, he quit his job, sold his house and moved across the country to be near family. He's now managing partner of SRB Ventures, an early-stage fund backing more than 60 startups, and he writes The Curiosity Chronicle, a newsletter read by millions. His book, "The 5 Types of Wealth," is a New York Times bestseller. His framework starts with a scoring problem. Financial wealth gets measured every day. Time, social, mental and physical wealth run in the background, unmeasured, until something forces you to look. You'll get exercises for each. Build an energy calendar that tracks which activities charge you up and which drain you. Map your relationships by how healthy and how frequent they are. Ask what your family and your community need from you. Define what "enough" means in dollars, then write the number down. Sahil also walks through anti-goals — the things you refuse to sacrifice on the way to a goal — and Memento Mori, the Roman habit of keeping your own death in view. Two questions run underneath all of it. Think about how you spent yesterday. Would your 10-year-old self be impressed? Would your 90-year-old self? You don't experience all four seasons in a single day. Sahil argues your life runs on seasons too. Some stretches call for financial growth. Others call for family. Find Sahil at the5typesofwealth.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#744: With about $200 and a crypto exchange, historian Joseph Moore turned himself into a legitimate billionaire — a stunt that says more about how money actually works than most financial advice does. It's also a preview of the 300-year argument he makes in this episode: that almost everything we're told about money is newer, and far less permanent, than we think. Joseph Moore, PhD, is a historian and the national bestselling author of How to Get Rich in American History: 300 Years of Financial Advice That Worked (& Didn't). His own self-experiments with historical money strategies helped him become financially independent in his mid-40s. In this episode, we discuss: How "never save your money" used to be completely reasonable financial advice Why bonds quietly beat stocks for nearly all of the 1800s How to spot when today's "obvious" financial rules are about to expire Why real estate booms always show up right alongside inflation spikes Why young people's unemployment is outpacing everyone else's — and what history says to do about it Why economic optimism and economic data have stopped matching up Why building more housing is the only housing-crisis fix that's ever actually worked This one's for anyone who feels like the rules of money keep changing under them — because they do, and always have. Understanding that pattern is the first step to building wealth in whatever era you happen to be living in. ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS Note: Timestamps may vary slightly depending on dynamic ad placements. (05:18) How a runaway slave built his own legal currency (06:52) How he legally declared himself a crypto billionaire (13:22) Why a fifth of the Smithsonian's money collection is fake (15:52) The bestselling book that told readers to commit fraud (20:10) The decades when bonds quietly beat stocks (26:04) How his grandfather secretly became a bond millionaire (31:09) Why that "$10K in 1929" chart is misleading (48:02) Why wages are up 50% and nobody believes it (1:06:39) Why most Americans once owned one shirt (1:23:48) The rent control law that backfired for renters

#743: Everyone talks about a loneliness epidemic — but Luke Burgis argues the opposite problem is just as real: we now have so much easy, frictionless community that we never have to develop a solid sense of who we actually are. Luke Burgis is a professor of business at The Catholic University of America and the founder of the Cluny Institute, and the bestselling author of Wanting: The Power of Mimetic Desire in Everyday Life. He returns to the show to talk about his new book, The One and the Ninety-Nine. In this episode, we discuss: Why having too much easy community can be just as damaging as having none at all How to tell whether your beliefs are actually yours — or something you inherited without ever examining it Why cutting people off has quietly become the default response to conflict How to stop shrinking yourself just to keep other people comfortable The zero-tolerance rule Luke enforces at his own company to kill passive-aggressiveness before it starts How Luke actually decides who to trust, hire, and build relationships with What an existential crisis at 29 — and five humbling years training for the priesthood — taught a successful entrepreneur about identity This episode is for anyone who feels the pull between fitting in and standing out — in your family, your workplace, or your online life. Luke offers a way to build an identity solid enough to hold up under pressure, without giving up on real community. ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS Note: Timestamps may vary slightly depending on dynamic ad placements. (7:42) Two competing drives wired into every human being (10:11) Why group pressure breaks some people and not others (17:39) Why cutting people off replaced working through conflict (19:39) The real number of close friends you actually need (26:51) Where your beliefs actually came from (32:00) You're not responsible for how someone else feels (36:09) The zero-tolerance workplace rule against passive-aggressiveness (41:22) How to actually tell who you can trust (53:33) The existential crisis that sent an entrepreneur toward the seminary (55:39) The humbling lesson hidden in a vending machine

#742: A listener hit her $1.4 million early-retirement goal three years ahead of schedule — and now she's stuck deciding whether paying off a low-interest mortgage is smart, or just fear in disguise. Later, a former financial planner explains why he still won't recommend one of the most talked-about "safer" investing strategies in the FIRE community. This week's Q&A tackles three listener questions: hiring your first accountant amid a complicated tax situation, whether to pay off a mortgage or retire early once you've already hit your number, and why one half of the show won't touch a popular alternative investing strategy. In this episode, we discuss: How to tell the difference between a CPA, an EA, and a tax attorney — and which one you actually need Why software can't keep up once your tax situation gets complicated How to interview and choose an accountant with confidence How to know if "one more year" at work is a smart plan or a sign of fear Why loving your job can change the entire math on early retirement Why a former financial planner still won't recommend risk parity investing What four well-known investing philosophies get right — and where they disagree Whether you're hiring your first accountant, staring down an early retirement decision, or trying to make sense of competing investment philosophies, this episode will help you separate genuine progress from comfortable procrastination. ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS Note: Timestamps may vary slightly depending on dynamic ad placements. (04:02) Why software can't handle a messy tax situation (08:02) The three types of tax pros — and who you actually need (12:46) How to interview and choose the right accountant (24:42) She hit her $1.4M goal three years early (32:22) The hidden fear behind "one more year" at work (38:29) Why loving your job changes the retirement math (49:39) Why a former advisor won't touch risk parity (53:46) Four investing legends who all disagree with each other (59:35) The historian's warning: history doesn't repeat itself (1:07:57) The cooking analogy that explains your portfolio

#740: Jack Raines turned $6,000 into $400,000 trading blank-check stocks during the 2020–2021 bubble — and he says it was some of the least fun money he's ever made. Jack Raines is a writer and investor at Slow Ventures, and the author of the new book Young Money: A Field Guide to Wealth and Purpose in Your Twenties. In this episode, we discuss: Why "golden handcuffs" are almost always a choice, not a trap How to tell if you're staying in a job for the right reasons, or just fear Why the same decision can be exactly right at 24 and wrong at 34 What actually helps when comparison and "falling behind" turn into apathy How he turned $6,000 into $400,000 trading a stock bubble, then gave much of it back Why hitting your number rarely feels like the finish line people expect Two questions worth asking before you spend years on something that isn't working This one's for anyone who feels behind, stuck, or unsure if their current path is a smart trade-off or just fear in disguise — Jack's way of thinking about money and time might be the reset you need. ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS Note: Timestamps may vary slightly depending on dynamic ad placements. (02:00) He liked his boss on a dating app (06:57) Two very different ways to spend your twenties (17:56) Why grad school became his built-in sabbatical (19:16) Why 30 gets judged harder than 24 (34:12) The real cause of career apathy (39:20) His best fix for feeling stuck (46:27) Same decision, right at 24, wrong at 34 (01:01:43) What's really keeping you in a job you hate (01:14:12) Why more money doesn't fix stress (01:17:56) Turning $6,000 into $400,000 in a stock bubble

#740: Paula and Joe rarely butt heads — but a caller's side hustle, which pulled in $5,500 in a single day, sparked their most heated disagreement in months. This week's mailbag: a couple weighing an early retirement built on $1.2 million, a wedding-dress side hustle deciding whether to go all in, and a listener whose small stock investment turned into a $25,000 tax puzzle. In this episode, we discuss: How to build a bucket strategy so you can retire early and still stay aggressive with your portfolio The real markers that tell you it's time to go back to work — not just a number How one listener turned a marketplace side hustle into a $5,500 day When to leave a stable paycheck for a growing side business, and when to wait Why a popular plan to gift a winning stock to your kids usually backfires Whether it's worth paying taxes now to raise your stock's cost basis Where a single winning stock belongs — taxable, Roth, or a solo 401(k) Whether you're weighing an early exit from a stable career, deciding if your side hustle is ready to become your main hustle, or holding a stock that's grown far beyond what you expected, this episode will help you think through the tradeoffs before you act. ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS Note: Timestamps may vary slightly depending on dynamic ad placements. (00:00) Why a winning stock can turn into a tax trap (02:23) A $1.2M portfolio and a plan to retire by 45 (07:45) Why an aggressive portfolio needs a cash cushion first (16:49) The real signal your plan isn't working (24:25) A side hustle that made $5,500 in one day (33:51) Quit now or wait — two strong arguments (39:51) The book that could save a new business (54:09) A $200 stock that grew into $25,000 (01:01:08) The tax rule that blocks gifting stock to your kids (01:12:59) A hidden tax that kicks in above $250,000 income

#739: The U.S. just lost 23,000 jobs — and unemployment fell anyway. The numbers were strange enough that Paula broke a years-long, all-stocks habit and bought her first bond, ever. In this month's First Friday economic roundup, Paula breaks down the jobs report, the bond market, mortgage rates, gold, and a new kind of account for kids. Topics include: How to make sense of a jobs report that seems to contradict itself What actually happens when you buy a 30-year Treasury bond Why bond yields hitting a two-decade high matters for your money Why mortgage rates are climbing again, and what that means for housing Why home prices are surging in some states while crashing in others Why gold is quietly staging a comeback What the new government-seeded kids' accounts actually do Whether you're deciding where your next dollar should go, watching mortgage rates before a purchase, or wondering if your kid needs a new account this year, this episode gives you the full economic picture in one sitting. ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS Note: Timestamps may vary slightly depending on dynamic ad placements. (00:00) Why the jobs report shocked economists this month (03:24) How jobs can drop while unemployment drops too (08:03) Why Paula just bought her first bond ever (09:35) A crash course on why bond yields are spiking (25:34) Why unemployment claims just hit a 55-year low (27:57) Why young job seekers have it harder than everyone else (35:23) Why mortgage rates just hit a one-year high (51:28) Why gold is rebounding, and who's buying it (57:47) What the new 530A investment accounts mean for your kids

#738: Hackers broke into a real estate closing company's servers and waited three months for the right deal — then intercepted a wire and stole $1.2 million from a couple who did everything right, right down to the closing table. Dr. Eric Cole was a former CIA hacker, Cybersecurity Commissioner under President Obama, and longtime security advisor to Bill Gates. We're resharing this conversation, originally released in June 2025, in honor of his sudden passing this year and the practical security knowledge he left behind. In this episode, we discuss: -How to spot a phishing scam before you click the link -Why turning on two-factor authentication blocks almost every account takeover -The simple bank alert setting that can stop a fraudulent transfer -Why cybersecurity experts sometimes recommend paying a ransomware demand -How AI-cloned voices are powering a new wave of grandparent scams -What your phone's app permissions reveal about who's tracking you -Why "it won't happen to me" is exactly what scammers count on This episode is for anyone who assumes hackers only go after big companies — because the reality is scammers are counting on you to think that. You'll walk away with concrete, five-minute changes that close the gaps most people don't know they have. ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS Note: Timestamps may vary slightly depending on dynamic ad placements. (03:41) Why you're an easier target than a big bank (06:46) Why cryptocurrency theft is nearly impossible to reverse (10:59) How one password can move half your savings (17:35) The fake unpaid-toll text that's made scammers millions (21:55) Why paying the ransom is sometimes the smart move (29:05) How AI clones your kid's voice for scams (37:58) The one thing to never hand a child (54:57) Why you should mask your location online (01:16:18) The setting that blocks almost every account hack (01:18:45) The bank alert that can undo fraud fast

#737: Beth Kobliner has covered personal finance for people in their 20s and 30s for over three decades — and she says this is the hardest she's ever seen it. One in four young people now believe that betting on gambling sites and prediction markets counts as investing. Beth Kobliner is a personal finance journalist and New York Times bestselling author of Get a Financial Life, who served on President Obama's Advisory Council on Financial Capability for Young Americans. In this episode, we discuss: Why unemployment for college grads is now worse than the general population Why the average first-time homebuyer is now 40 instead of 28 How tap-to-pay and neobank apps quietly drive up spending without you noticing Why so many young people believe gambling sites count as investing — and what the real odds say Whether AI is making it harder or easier for young workers to break in Why index funds still beat both active management and a lucky bet, long-term Whether college is still worth the cost in today's job market Whether you're just starting out or already feel behind, this episode makes the case for the boring, unglamorous plan over the tempting quick one — and explains why that plan still works. ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS Note: Timestamps may vary slightly depending on dynamic ad placements. (00:39) Why today's 20- and 30-somethings have it harder than any generation Beth's covered (03:04) The consumer sentiment reading that's worse than the pandemic and the Great Recession (05:14) Why record-low unemployment doesn't mean what you think for new grads (10:23) Why the median first-time homebuyer is now pushing 40 (13:36) The real reason behind the boom in crypto, sports betting, and meme stocks (15:52) The "giving up" factor economists say is driving risky bets (17:15) Why a tiny sliver of prediction-market bettors take home most of the winnings (23:26) Is the "avocado toast" spending story about young people even true? (43:44) How tapping your phone quietly makes you spend more than a credit card (01:04:13) Why financial optimism is rising in countries poorer than the U.S.

#736: A bride wants to spend $60,000 on her wedding — money that could grow to $800,000 in 40 years if she invested it instead. This week, three very different listener questions all boil down to the same fight: what the math says versus what actually makes you happy.

#735: Cody Berman failed at more than 30 side hustles — from a disc golf manufacturing company to sweaty bike deliveries in the Australian heat — before three of them got him to financial independence at 25. Cody is the bestselling author of Retire by 30, who reached financial independence at 25 by stacking income from real estate, digital products, and the stock market. In this episode, we discuss: How a nest-egg approach to financial independence differs from a cash-flow one A simple framework for sorting any side hustle into one of four types Why calculating real rental cash flow means more than rent minus mortgage Why the gap between what you earn and spend matters more than your returns How a failed side hustle can still hand you a skill that pays off later Why rebuilding an old idea from scratch can prove your skills weren't luck How to know when a side hustle needs more time versus when to quit Whether you're juggling five side hustles or just starting your first one, this episode will help you figure out which ones are actually worth your time — and which ones to let go of. ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS Note: Timestamps may vary slightly depending on dynamic ad placements. (00:00) Meet Cody Berman (03:27) Two paths to FI (05:51) Big piles feel scary (07:09) Cody's FI numbers (08:12) Hustling on the train (11:58) The side hustle graveyard (14:56) Four side hustle types (19:47) The rich own assets (37:17) Biking Uber Eats in Australia (44:20) Skills are future currency (45:33) AI makes doers stronger (52:36) The gap is everything (58:54) Valentine's printables pay off (1:07:54) House hacking slashes costs (1:12:45) Life after FI

#734: Depending on which source you ask, the U.S. is short somewhere between 1.2 million and 10 million homes — and the reason for that wild range says as much about who's counting as it does about the shortage itself.

#733: Venture fund managers can collect years of fees before a single dollar comes back to investors — and the bar to hand over your money is lower than you'd think. David Bell spent 20 years as a chaired professor at Wharton before co-founding the venture firm Idea Farm Ventures, where he's backed early-stage brands like Bonobos, Warby Parker, and Jet.com. In this episode, we discuss: How venture funds actually make money, and why nearly every one runs on the same fee formula Why fund managers get paid before they've invested anything Why the bar to invest in risky private deals is lower than you'd think What to ask before trusting any fund manager with your money The one red flag that should make you think twice about an eager fund manager How some investors make an all-or-nothing bet on a single breakout company Why taking outside money can quietly change what a founder is optimizing for Whether you're weighing becoming a fund investor yourself or you're a founder deciding whether outside money is worth what it costs, this episode gives you a clearer read on how the venture world actually works. ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS Note: Timestamps may vary slightly depending on dynamic ad placements. (03:41) How venture capital actually works, in three tiers (06:09) The fee formula nearly every venture fund runs on (10:30) Why fund managers get paid before they invest anything (14:19) The surprisingly low bar to invest in risky deals (26:52) What to ask before trusting any fund manager (29:27) How investors make an all-or-nothing bet on one company (34:33) The red flag hiding in an eager fund manager (42:16) What separates a great fund manager from a mediocre one (48:10) How outside money quietly changes what a founder optimizes for (55:47) Why kids today may never remember life before AI

#732: Where you live is already deciding what you'll buy today, before you've even made up your mind. And it turns out the customers your local stores ignore completely are often a brand's most valuable ones. David Bell spent twenty years as a Wharton marketing professor before becoming one of the earliest investors in Warby Parker, Bonobos, and Diapers.com. He's now co-founder of the consumer venture studio Idea Farm Ventures. In this episode, we discuss: Why the same person makes different purchases depending on where they live How four college students' "nutty idea" became Warby Parker Why the customers your local store ignores can become your best customers Why a failed meal-kit startup accidentally proved a rule about demand How a founder turned a boring hand sanitizer into a ten-dollar status symbol Why AI can now replicate a $100,000 market research study for almost nothing This episode is for anyone building — or dreaming of building — their own brand, product, or side hustle, and who wants to understand why people really open their wallets. ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS Note: Timestamps may vary slightly depending on dynamic ad placements. (00:00) Introduction: the invisible forces behind your spending (02:08) From Wharton professor to venture capitalist: meet David Bell (07:32) The Warby Parker origin story: born in office hours (11:27) The "preference minority": why location shapes what you buy (23:12) Beyond necessities: targeting discretionary spending online (31:00) Getting creative offline: postal routes, school buses, and neighborhood showrooms (43:37) Where AI actually fits into consumer innovation (50:49) Touchland: how a "boring" category became a status symbol (55:13) Building a business — and an AI board of directors — from scratch (57:32) Recap: three key takeaways, and what's coming Friday 

#731: What if the best way to test a new hire wasn't a resume, but a two-hour breakfast? One CEO built his entire hiring process around it — and it worked. Lorraine Marchand spent three decades in leadership roles at companies like IBM, Bristol-Myers Squibb, and LabCorp, and interviewed more than 120 CEOs for her book on what actually makes teams innovate. Now she teaches at Wharton and Columbia Business School, and in this episode she joins Paula to share what really works. In this episode, we discuss: How one CEO used a casual team breakfast to test whether a new hire was the right fit before they came on board A simple three-question test to figure out if a bad job culture is fixable, or if it's time to start looking elsewhere Why a weekly 30-minute habit of talking about what's not working can make a team stronger How to network your way into opportunities early in your career, even if you're worried AI will replace you first What new research on memory loss and heavy AI use means for how you should be using these tools How to protect your job in your 50s and 60s as companies push AI adoption on everyone Where Marchand thinks the next wave of entrepreneurial opportunity is actually hiding (hint: it's not another app) Whether you're building a team from scratch, trying to decide if a toxic job is worth fixing, or just trying to use AI without losing your edge, this episode gives you practical takeaways you can put to use right away. ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS Note: Timestamps may vary slightly depending on dynamic ad placements. (02:00) – The team breakfast test: how one CEO used a shared meal to hire the right people (17:38) Should you try to fix a bad culture, or start looking for a new job? (26:29) Why people follow good bosses, not companies (28:26) Networking advice for people early in their career (30:25) What heavy AI use might be doing to your memory and thinking (31:06) AI job displacement and the skills worth building now (50:56) Using AI as a thought partner to build emotional intelligence (58:23) Advice for workers in their 50s and 60s worried about AI and ageism (1:06:00) Building a team of humans and AI "agents" — including an AI board of directors (1:14:43) Where Marchand sees the next wave of entrepreneurship and innovation heading

#730: What does it actually mean to have "enough" — and how do you know when it's time to stop optimizing and start living? AVOIDING THE REAL ESTATE MISTAKES IN THIS FREE GUIDE COULD SAVE YOU $10,000 OR MORE

#729: The U.S. added 57,000 jobs in June. Economists expected 115,000. Meanwhile, inflation hit a three-year high. The Personal Consumption Expenditures index - the Fed's favorite inflation gauge - jumped 4.1 percent year-over-year. That combination creates a problem. Weak jobs usually push the Fed to cut rates. Hot inflation pushes them to hike. In this First Friday episode, we break down which way the Fed might lean at its September meeting, and why traders see an 80 percent chance rates stay frozen for now. We also dig into Kevin Warsh's debut as Fed Chairman. His first official statement ran only 132 words, one of the shortest in Fed history. He cut forward guidance – the practice of making guesses about what the Fed will do next. He removed the names of dissenting voters. His statement mentioned price stability but skipped maximum employment, and we explain why that omission matters. Central banks around the world moved in the opposite direction. The European Central Bank raised rates for the first time since 2023, responding to a 10.9 percent surge in energy prices. The Bank of Japan hiked rates to their highest level in 31 years. Australia, Norway, Indonesia, the Philippines and Israel joined in. Brazil was the only country to cut rates – down to 14.25 percent. We cover China's consumer spending decline, the first since the pandemic ended, driven by a 16.1 percent drop in auto sales and a real estate crash that drained middle-class wealth. We end the episode with a deep dive into NYC's rent freeze – who gets the benefit, and who pays the price? ⏱️ Timestamps: Note: Timestamps will vary on individual listening devices based on dynamic advertising segments. (00:00) US Job Market Cooling Off (04:52) Fed's Stance on Interest Rates (07:29) New Fed Chair Kevin Warsh's Priorities (17:21) Global Interest Rate Hikes (21:47) Impact of Stable US Rates & Global Trends (26:24) Inflation Data and Predictions (30:38) Consumer Sentiment: US vs. China (40:00) NYC Rent Freeze: History, Policies, and Today Share this episode with a friend, colleagues, and your landlord: https://affordanything.com/episode729 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#728: What do you do when you suddenly have $850,000 and no idea what to do with it? GET TOTAL CLARITY ON WHERE EVERY DOLLAR BELONGS

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#726: Hey, we're mixing it up today with a super deep dive. We normally go fairly deep on this show, but today we're going even deeper and turning one caller's question into a case study. Download the Four Cornerstone Worksheet to follow along: ⁠www.affordanything.com/cornerstone⁠ An anonymous caller is reevaluating their finances after a series of health challenges, caregiving responsibilities, and major life changes. With most of their wealth tied up in retirement accounts, they're wondering how to balance tax advantages against the need for greater flexibility and access to their money. We spend most of the episode answering this question in deep detail. At the end of the episode, we talk to another caller whose HOA hit her with a massive unexpected bill. She bought into an HOA, turned her former home into a rental, and years later was hit with a surprise $15,000 special assessment—with only months to pay and no payment plan available. Now she's wondering why the risks of HOA ownership, especially the possibility of massive special assessments, aren't discussed more often—and what prospective buyers should know before purchasing in an HOA community.” We'll dig into that in today's episode. Resources: Download the Four Cornerstone Worksheet: www.affordanything.com/cornerstone 7 Expensive Mistakes Real Estate Investors Make: http://afforanything.com/mistakes Video: Japan's Soccer Fans with Blue Bags Video: Norway's Vikings Fans on Escalator Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#725: Most people assume their financial advisor is legally required to put their interests first. That's not always true. Andrea Baumann Lustig, a wealth advisor with 30 years of experience, joins us to walk through the blind spots she sees most often in legacy planning -- the deeply held beliefs that quietly undermine people's financial futures. We start with something most people never think to ask: how is your advisor actually registered? There are three categories. Registered representatives (stockbrokers) are held to a "best interest" standard - but they don't have to disclose when they earn a higher commission for recommending a specific investment. Fiduciaries are held to a stricter standard - they must put your interests ahead of their own. And 45 percent of advisors are dually registered, meaning they can switch between those two standards depending on which account they're discussing with you. Most clients have no idea this is happening. From there, we dig into what Lustig calls the "quarterback" problem. Many people have a financial advisor, an estate planning attorney, an accountant, and an insurance agent - but those specialists never talk to each other. Without someone coordinating the full picture, opportunities get missed and risks go unseen. We also talk through what happens when people try to manage everything themselves, why having multiple investment advisors can actually backfire (think: wash sale rule violations and hidden concentration risk), and why a revocable trust matters even if you don't think you're wealthy enough to need one. Lustig explains the three Ps a revocable trust protects against - probate, incapacitation, and privacy - and why even people in their 30s and 40s should consider setting one up now. The conversation closes with advice for small business owners on how to think about a business that might not be sellable - and how to plan around it anyway. Timestamps: Note: Timestamps will vary on individual listening devices based on dynamic advertising run times. The provided timestamps are approximate and may be several minutes off due to changing ad lengths. (00:00) Intro (06:52) Three types of financial advisors explained (09:11) Fiduciary vs. best interest standard (15:21) Dangers of dually registered advisors (19:26) Why you need a planning quarterback (24:42) Risks of using multiple investment advisors (37:10) Who benefits from holistic wealth management (40:50) The three Ps of a revocable trust (44:19) Returning to the blind spots overview (47:40) Risks of managing money yourself (57:13) Key questions to ask a new advisor (1:05:34) Index funds vs. active management (1:12:04) Asset allocation and rebalancing strategy (1:21:10) Legacy planning for small business owners (1:27:54) How to spot your own blind spots Resources: Book: Legacy on the Line: Overcome Blind Spots to Grow and Transfer Your Wealth by Andrea Baumann Lustig Free download: The FiiRE Playbook Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#724: Linda Hill, a Harvard Business School professor, and Jason Wild, an innovation consultant who has led projects in 40 countries, join us to break down how organizations innovate. Linda and Jason have spent decades studying companies that consistently produce breakthroughs - from Pixar to Delta Airlines to Cleveland Clinic - and they've identified three leadership roles that matter most: the Architect, the Bridger, and the Catalyst. The Architect builds a culture where people feel safe enough to take risks. The Bridger - which Linda calls the "revenge of middle management" - spans the gaps between departments, partners, and outside organizations where innovation often stalls and dies. The Catalyst builds coalitions across broader ecosystems to get things done. We get into what separates co-creation from consensus - and why consensus almost never produces anything great. Linda explains what she calls "creative abrasion": the practice of rubbing ideas against each other through debate and discourse, rather than smoothing over disagreements to keep the peace. We also talk about what individual employees can do when they work inside slow, tradition-bound organizations. The short answer: find the people who share your interests, build a coalition, and work your way up - not by chasing the most powerful person in the room, but by starting with whoever cares about the same problem you do. The conversation touches on AI and what it actually takes to stay relevant as a knowledge worker. Linda and Jason both land on the same answer - the ability to build trust and relationships in low-trust environments is one of the hardest things for AI to replicate. Linda and Jason can be found at geniusatscale.com Download the FIIRE playbook: affordanything.com/FIIRE Timestamps: Note: Timestamps will vary on individual listening devices based on dynamic advertising segments. The provided timestamps are approximate and may be several minutes off due to changing ad lengths. (00:00) Innovation leadership and the ABC framework (02:19) Architect, Bridger, and Catalyst roles (04:18) Studying Pixar and innovation cultures (06:14) Co-creation versus consensus thinking (07:12) Creative abrasion and productive debate (08:41) Bridgers connecting teams and partners (10:50) Delta biometric boarding pass example (12:56) Relationship skills in the AI era (15:40) AI, trust, and human judgment (18:50) Rio collaboration across government silos (22:53) Innovating inside traditional organizations (25:18) ANA teleportation project and coalition building (30:49) Power of questions for innovation (32:42) Shared purpose versus top-down purpose (43:27) Better decision-making through clear criteria Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

723: This episode originally aired in July 2025. Here's the thing about personal finance advice: what works when you have $10,000 won't work when you have $1 million.  Yet most financial guidance treats everyone the same, whether you're scraping together a $1,000 emergency fund or deciding whether to upgrade to business class. Nick Maggiulli, author of "The Wealth Ladder," joins us to break down how money strategies must evolve as your net worth grows. He's mapped out 6 distinct wealth levels, each requiring different approaches to spending, saving and investing. The levels start simple.  Level 1 covers anyone with less than $10,000 in net worth — that's 20 percent of American households. Here, bad luck gets amplified. A flat tire that costs $200 could spiral into job loss and debt if you can't afford the repair. Level 2 spans $10,000 to $100,000 in net worth. Maggiulli calls this "grocery freedom" — you can splurge on the nicer eggs without checking your bank balance.  Level 3, from $100,000 to $1 million, brings "restaurant freedom."  Level 4, the $1 million to $10 million range, unlocks "travel freedom." Getting beyond Level 4 — into the $10 million-plus territory — requires business ownership or extreme patience. Maggiulli calculates that even saving $100,000 annually after hitting $1 million takes 23 years to reach $10 million, assuming 5 percent annual returns. The data shows income matters more than frugality, especially in the early levels. The median household income in Level 1 is $32,000, but in Level 4 it's $197,000, and in Level 6 it reaches $4.3 million. We discuss why homeownership dominates wealth in Levels 2 and 3, how investment assets become crucial in higher levels, and why many people in Level 4 choose "Coast FIRE" over the grinding path to Level 5. Resource Mentioned: Nick's book: The Wealth Ladder: Proven Strategies for Every Step of Your Financial Life Timestamps: Note: Timestamps will vary on individual listening devices based on dynamic advertising run times. The provided timestamps are approximate and may be several minutes off due to changing ad lengths. (0:00) Introduction to wealth ladder concept (1:35) The 0.01% daily spending rule (3:43) Six wealth levels breakdown (7:35) Level 1 survival mode focus (11:21) Six levels population data (13:02) Level 1 bad luck amplification (15:08) Level 2 skills development priority (17:55) Income and wealth correlation data (25:28) Level 2 education strategies (28:05) Income opportunity heuristics discussion (32:24) Level 2 mobility statistics (36:38) Asset composition shifts by level (39:28) Level 3 to 4 progression (46:52) Level 3 and 4 similarities (50:14) Level 4 to 5 math (53:29) Business ownership requirements for Level 5 (56:07) Level 5 and 6 non-monetary focus (59:07) Wealth movement bidirectional data (1:04:09) Key takeaways summary begins For more information, visit the show notes at https://affordanything.com/episode629 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#722: Free lesson: affordanything.com/mistakes Ask us a question: affordanything.com/voicemail  What happens when your financial plan is technically working — but emotionally, it still doesn't feel secure? Caitlin and her husband have their core expenses covered, but her side hustle brings in an extra $600 a month. With young kids, daycare costs, and long-term retirement goals all competing for attention, she's wondering where that extra money should go right now. Anonymous is in a strong financial position for retirement, with a pension, solid investments, and high savings rates—but is still constantly checking accounts, rerunning projections, and struggling to feel at peace with money. Charlotte is calling back several years after asking whether short-term rentals could fund her early retirement. After buying, renovating, and eventually selling two Airbnb properties—just before a devastating hurricane hit the area—she's reflecting on what she learned about risk, hype, and investing with emotion. Resources mentioned: Charlotte's original call: affordanything.com/episode352 Paula interview on Emma Chamberlain's podcast: youtube.com/watch?v=VOP7S4w8s0I Midterm Rentals with Jeff Hurst: affordanything.com/episode712 Interview with Brad Klontz, Ep127: affordanything.com/episode127 Interview with Brad Klontz and Adrian Brambila, Ep551: affordanything.com/episode551 Share this episode with a friend, colleagues, and your AirBNB tenants: https://affordanything.com/episode722 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#721: The US economy showed robust job growth in May, adding 172,000 new jobs, exceeding expectations. This suggests a broadening of economic recovery beyond essential services. Treasury yields have climbed significantly, reflecting investor concerns about inflation. Inflation remains a significant concern, driven largely by surging energy costs. And there's good news emerging in prescription drug prices. We're going to discuss all of this and more in the June 2026 First Friday episode. Timestamps: Note: Timestamps will vary on individual listening devices based on dynamic advertising segments. The provided timestamps are approximate and may be several minutes off due to changing ad lengths. (0:00) May jobs surge (04:31) Fed rate hike outlook (06:08) Bond yields and stocks (11:57) Home prices keep falling (16:15) Austin housing correction (17:18) Inflation and energy costs (21:21) Gas prices hit budgets (23:05) Consumer sentiment weakens (28:11) JPMorgan market outlook (29:14) Mag Seven loses dominance (33:04) Prescription drug prices drop (39:24) SpaceX IPO plans and demand Resources: JP Morgan article: https://am.jpmorgan.com/us/en/asset-management/adv/insights/market-insights/guide-to-the-markets Free download: Asset Location Made Simple https://affordanything.com/assetlocation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#720: At what point does making the “right” financial decision start to feel emotionally harder than the math itself? Rebecca: is wondering whether the Rule of 72 means she can ease up on retirement contributions—or whether continuing to max out her Roth 401(k) is still the smarter move despite multiple mortgages, car loans, and college savings goals. Kate: feels trapped between the math and psychology of homeownership. A low-interest rental property could be sold to dramatically reduce a much larger 7 percent mortgage, but she's struggling with whether giving up that “golden” loan would be a long-term mistake. Emily: is now just a few years away from early retirement, but after watching his net worth grow rapidly during the bull market, he's finding that the closer he gets to financial independence, the harder it becomes to emotionally trust that he finally has enough. Resources mentioned: Financial Planning Tools: go.boldin.com/affordanything Leave Paula a message for the show: affordanything.com/voicemail Join the Afford Anything Community: affordanything.com/community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#719: Most of us spend 93 percent of our time indoors, and it's making us sicker, more tired, and less productive than we realize. Dr. John La Puma is a physician and researcher who studies what happens to the human body when it's indoors too much. He joins us to explain the science behind what he calls the indoor epidemic: the chronic diseases, burnout, insomnia, and cognitive decline that stem from a life lived almost entirely inside. Dr. La Puma walks through the specific biological mechanisms at play. Indoor living disrupts your circadian rhythm and bombards your brain with more screen time than it can process — what he calls "digital obesity." Too many pixels, he says, burn out your brain the same way too much sugar burns out your metabolism. Burnout isn't a character flaw. It's a biology problem. The good news: the minimum effective dose of outdoor time is just two hours a week in a green or blue space. And it doesn't have to be a national park. The park down the street counts. We get into the specifics — morning light, circadian rhythm, deep sleep, and why 10 minutes outside before you check your phone can improve focus, sleep quality, and even how big the world feels. Dr. La Puma explains why "just get outside more" misses the point: light has a dosage, a timing, and a location, the same way a financial strategy has specific mechanics. For knowledge workers in cities, we talk through the real-world friction — Manhattan apartments, extreme heat, early wake-ups before sunrise — and what to do when those conditions make outdoor time inconvenient. There are practical workarounds, and Dr. La Puma covers them. The episode closes on a reframe: health and productivity aren't in conflict. Better sleep, more natural light, and regular time outside don't slow you down. They make the hours you do work more effective. Resources mentioned: John La Puma MD's book - Indoor Epidemic: 93% Inside Steals Sleep, Focus & Years—The 7% Outdoor Rx Restores Them Dr. John La Puma's website https://www.drjohnlapuma.com f.lux screen spectrum app https://justgetflux.com Timestamps: Note: Timestamps will vary on individual listening devices based on dynamic advertising run times. The provided timestamps are approximate and may be several minutes off due to changing ad lengths. (00:00) Your Office Is Making You Sick (03:01) Health cost of indoor living (04:58) Digital obesity explained (09:24) Minimum effective dose of nature (12:10) Why burnout is a biology problem (15:15) Morning light and deep sleep (17:11) Light first, coffee second (28:12) What happens during deep sleep (36:54) Workplace study results (45:23) Pink noise, brown noise, and sleep (54:45) Why blue-light glasses fall short (59:48) Outdoor tips for remote workers (1:04:55) Green exercise as a nature dose (1:10:10) Mental health cost of indoor life (1:14:51) Modeling outdoor habits for kid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#718: What happens when the financial strategy that once felt obvious suddenly becomes a lot more complicated? Les is approaching financial independence but has realized there's one thing missing from the traditional FIRE equation: how do you continue meaningful charitable giving after you stop earning a paycheck? Jaime has built a sizable retirement portfolio, but now he's wondering whether the complexity inside his 401(k) actually matters—or if he's overthinking the mechanics of retirement accounts and Roth conversions. Tina has owned a successful rental property near the University of Central Florida for more than a decade, but changing market conditions and growing competition from corporate landlords are making them wonder whether it's finally time to sell. We're diving into all of that today, so let's get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#717: Clare Flynn Levy was a hedge fund manager in London in the summer of 2007, watching her trading screens turn red — every single day. Merger arbitrage spreads were widening. Investors were pulling out. She didn't yet realize she was watching the early tremors of a global financial crisis. Clare joins us to talk about what that experience taught her about investor behavior, emotional bias, and the hidden forces that drive financial decisions. She now runs a firm that helps professional fund managers analyze their own decision-making patterns. Her core argument: most investors aren't making rational choices. They're rationalizing them. We get into two specific biases that cloud judgment — sunk cost fallacy and the endowment effect — and how they show up whether you're picking individual stocks or rebalancing a 529 plan. Clare shares a personal example. After the 2024 election, she moved her kids' college funds from equities into bonds, recorded her reasoning in her calendar, and came back nine months later to review it honestly. She was wrong. Equities kept climbing. But having a written thesis let her make a clean new decision rather than doubling down out of ego. We also walk through five investor archetypes drawn from behavioral research on fund managers. Connoisseurs let winners run. Raiders take profits too early. Rabbits freeze — or keep buying into a losing position. Hunters wait and take calculated shots. Assassins cut losses cleanly, without emotion. Most people default to rabbit behavior when things go south. The goal is to be an assassin. Clare's practical rule: don't let any single position drag your overall portfolio down more than 1 percent before forcing yourself to reassess. Her closing advice for long-term investors: ask yourself five simple questions before every major move, write down your reasoning, and go back and check. Timestamps: Note: Timestamps will vary on individual listening devices based on dynamic advertising run times. The provided timestamps are approximate and may be several minutes off due to changing ad lengths. (00:00) 5 Ways Investors Behave When Things Go Wrong (05:20) Clare Flynn Levy — hedge fund manager turned behavioral finance analyst (06:50) 2008 crisis — watching screens turn red daily (08:25) Sunk cost fallacy and the endowment effect — why investors hold losers too long (10:25) Index funds — riskier than most people think (17:09) Tech concentration — how indexes got warped (27:52) Algorithmic trading — machines changing the game (29:37) Playing the wrong game — taking cues from short-term traders (31:22) Individual stocks — same behavioral traps apply (35:22) Hit rate vs. payoff ratio — what actually drives returns (44:57) Five investor archetypes — how you behave when winning and losing (50:17) Alpha decay — when to exit a winning position (54:22) Being an assassin — rules for cutting losses without emotion (59:42) Decision journaling — five questions to ask before every move (01:03:22) Quarterly snapshots — simple way to track your own patterns (01:05:22) Closing advice — discipline, patience, and realistic expectations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#716: When does a financial decision stop being purely about maximizing returns—and start becoming about building the life you actually want? Karen recently inherited sizable trusts for their children and is now navigating the complicated intersection of investing, taxes, legacy planning, and future financial aid eligibility. Matt has spent years building a solid index fund portfolio, but as retirement gets closer, he's wrestling with a familiar investor problem: how do you know when optimizing becomes overthinking? Kate is trying to decide whether $35,000 should go into the stock market—or into building a backyard gym that could generate income while dramatically improving her family's day-to-day quality of life. We've got a lot to unpack today, so let's get into it. Book by Michael J. McFall - Grind: A No-BS Approach to Take Your Business from Concept to Cash Flow Share this episode with a friend, colleagues, and your mailman: https://affordanything.com/episode716 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#715: She grew up with a Goldman Sachs dad. She still ended up broke in her 20's. Here's what changed. Haley Sacks - known online as Mrs. Dow Jones - joins us to talk about the five-step financial framework she calls IBIZA. Despite every advantage, she spent her twenties anxious, financially dependent, and charging dinners to her parents' credit card. One birthday trip to a Toronto restaurant crystallized the problem: she couldn't afford the life she wanted, so she borrowed someone else's money to fake it - and spent the rest of the night avoiding her phone while her mom texted about the charge. We talk about how money beliefs form by age seven, even when parents never say a word about finances. Haley's father had watched wealthy clients' children lose ambition and kept money out of the family conversation entirely. The lesson Haley absorbed anyway: money comes from outside yourself. The IBIZA framework walks through five steps - identify your earliest money memory, interrupt the patterns it created, zhuzh your mindset by replacing limiting beliefs, and act. The final step is tactical: a 15-minute timer, one small action, and a monthly money date to review spending and set goals. We also get into the concept of financial energy - the idea that you have a finite amount of mental bandwidth for money decisions each day. Spending it on coupons and skipping lattes leaves nothing left for the moves that actually build wealth: negotiating a raise, automating savings, maxing out tax-advantaged accounts. Haley also breaks down learned financial helplessness - the belief that the system is too broken to bother trying - and why pushing back against it puts you ahead of most people before you've done a single thing. Timestamps: Note: Timestamps will vary on individual listening devices based on dynamic advertising run times. The provided timestamps are approximate and may be several minutes off due to changing ad lengths. (00:00) — Your Childhood Is Running Your Bank Account (08:42) — Money beliefs form by age 7 (11:35) — Why financial independence matters (13:00) — The Momofuku story (17:04) — "Financial energy" — and why you're wasting it (24:35) — The IBIZA framework, explained (28:32) — I: Identify your money origin story (31:07) — "If you don't control your money, it controls your life" (32:31) — How pop culture shapes money beliefs (46:51) — I: Interrupt old patterns (54:24) — Learned financial helplessness (55:59) — Z: Zhuzh your mindset (59:06) — The Tyra Banks story (1:02:54) — A: Act — the 15-minute starter move (1:06:18) — The monthly money date Resource: Haley's book - Future Rich Person: The New Rules for Building Wealth (Even if You're Stuck, Broke, and that Billionaire Won't Text You Back...) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#714: When you're making big financial decisions, what matters more: optimizing for the best long-term outcome, or choosing the path that gives you the most flexibility and peace of mind right now? Melissa retired early and now lives off rental income, but she's considering selling one property to pay off another. The catch? Her monthly income would stay about the same—so the real question is whether giving up future appreciation is worth the simplicity and stability today. Von is trying to better understand how real estate returns actually work—specifically, whether cap rates tell the full story for multifamily properties, or whether there's more going on beneath the surface. Layla is planning to retire at 50 and has built a strong portfolio—but she's wondering if she's leaned too heavily into Roth accounts. Should she keep maximizing a mega backdoor Roth at a high tax rate, or shift toward a taxable brokerage to better bridge the early retirement years? We'll get into all of that—the tradeoffs, the assumptions behind them, and how to think through each decision. Resources: TONIGHT, May 12th: "Can You Still Buy a Profitable Rental Property in 2026?" webinar. Register for free here: https://affordanything.com/rental2026 Share this episode with a friend, colleagues, and your Uber driver: https://affordanything.com/episode714 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The US economy added 115,000 jobs in April -- and the numbers look solid on the surface. But dig a little deeper and you'll find a tech sector in freefall, a housing market frozen in place, and consumer sentiment that hit a 74-year low. This bonus episode breaks down the May jobs report, which came out a week late because the Bureau of Labor Statistics pushed its release from the first Friday to the second Friday of the month. The job gains were concentrated in healthcare, transportation, warehousing, and retail. Healthcare alone added 37,000 jobs, driven largely by nursing facilities and home health care services for an aging population. Retail gains clustered in discount stores and warehouse clubs - not department stores or electronics retailers - which tells you consumers are spending more carefully. Tech got hit hard. The information sector lost another 13,000 jobs in April and is now down 342,000 jobs - about 11 percent - from its November 2022 peak. People working part-time because they can't find full-time work jumped by 445,000 in a single month. Consumer sentiment is at its lowest point in 74 years of University of Michigan tracking - worse than 2008, worse than the inflation of the 1970s. One reason: gas prices. There's a psychological outsized effect to standing at a pump watching the total climb every week, versus an invisible mortgage adjustment buried in a monthly bank statement. The housing market didn't get its usual spring bounce. Existing home sales ticked up just 0.2 percent between March and April. Inventory rose 5.8 percent, but at 4.4 months of supply, the market still needs roughly 30 percent more inventory to reach balance. Median sale price sits at $417,700, up less than 1 percent year over year. Homes are averaging 32 days on market - giving buyers more negotiating leverage than they've had in years. Timestamps: (00:00) April jobs report: 115,000 new jobs, but tech takes a hit (02:38) Jobs data matters more than the stock market (03:14) Where jobs grew: healthcare, transportation,warehousing, retail (05:14) Consumer sentiment hits 74-year low (07:46) Why gas prices hurt more than other costs (11:20) Tech sector down 342,000 jobs from 2022 peak (11:52) Part-time workers up 445,000 in a single month (13:38) Housing market: no spring rebound (15:16) Inventory up, but still 30 percent below a balanced market (16:16) Housing market frozen - not crashing, not skyrocketing (17:13) Golden handcuffs: why sellers aren't selling (18:23) Why buyers have more negotiating power now Enroll in our course, "Your First Rental Property" while the doors are open! https://affordanything.com/enroll Share this episode with a friend, colleagues, and your postal person: https://affordanything.com/firstfridaymay2026 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#713: Tiffany Aliche spent her 30th birthday in her childhood bedroom, $300,000 in debt, unemployed, and freshly foreclosed on. 

Sixteen years later, she's generated over $50 million in gross revenue as a business owner. 

She joins us to talk about what actually happened in between. Aliche - known as The Budgetnista - built her personal finance platform almost by accident. After a friend stole $35,000 from her and the 2008 recession wiped out her condo's value, she started helping friends navigate their own financial messes. That side hustle became a business. By 37, she was a millionaire. By 40, she had her first eight-figure revenue year. But the money didn't fix everything. We talk about what she calls "post-traumatic broke syndrome" - the way your scarcity mindset from the hard years keeps quietly running your financial decisions long after your bank account has recovered. For Aliche, it showed up as years of refusing to buy herself a vacation home she could easily afford, while simultaneously buying properties for her sisters and stepdaughter, neither of whom asked for them. We also get into the emotional mechanics of financial shame - specifically, how shame blocks access to solutions you already have. Aliche says she grew up with a CFO father who taught her exactly how to budget, save, and invest. None of that knowledge was available to her at rock bottom, because shame had walled it off. The fix, she says, was simply saying it out loud to a friend. The conversation covers people-pleasing as an under-discussed form of financial self-sabotage, the current economic disconnect between paper wealth and lived experience, and a practical exercise for figuring out whether you already have enough money to fund the life you actually want. Share this episode with a friend, colleagues, and your CFO: https://affordanything.com/episode713 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#712: Jeff Hurst, CEO of Furnished Finder, joins us to break down what midterm rentals are, who they're for, and why now might be the best time to get in. A midterm rental is a furnished unit rented for 30 days or longer - longer than a hotel stay, shorter than a traditional lease. Cities have been regulating Airbnb-style short-term rentals out of existence, leaving a wave of furnished properties with nowhere to go. That supply is now shifting toward the midterm market, driven by three primary tenant types: corporate and skilled trade workers, traveling healthcare professionals, and relocating families doing a "try before you buy" neighborhood test run. We get into the specifics of what it costs to furnish a midterm rental (about $7 per square foot, compared to $30 to $40 for a short-term rental), where owners typically overspend (treating it like a leisure destination), and where they underinvest (quality mattresses, blackout curtains, kitchen functionality). Jeff also explains how to model out your returns, estimate vacancy, and use tools like Furnished Finder's market insights tab and AirDNA data to vet a market before you buy. On the question of where to invest, Jeff walks through a layered research approach - starting with population migration, proximity to hospitals and universities, commuter corridors, and school districts. He's bullish on mid-sized cities with data center build-outs and expanding healthcare infrastructure, and argues that markets like those around northwest Arkansas, parts of Texas, and mid-sized Midwestern cities offer better risk-adjusted returns than the leisure destinations that dominated the short-term era. Jeff also covers HOA red flags to look for, how to approach off-market deals, what the regulatory environment looks like for midterm (spoiler: almost no city is restricting it), and why the category today feels a lot like short-term rentals at their peak. Timestamps: Note: Timestamps will vary on individual listening devices based on dynamic advertising run times. The provided timestamps are approximate and may be several minutes off due to changing ad lengths. (00:00) Intro (05:12) What midterm rentals are (07:00) Why cities banned short-term rentals (08:19) Who rents midterm — nurses, corporate workers, relocating families (14:45) Extended stay hotels vs. midterm rentals (16:34) Hospitality expectations for hosts (19:22) How much to spend on furnishings (21:02) Regulatory risk — nearly zero (32:16) How to estimate vacancy and returns (45:58) How to pick a market (52:16) Why mid-sized cities win (57:42) Following extended stay hotel construction as a demand signal (1:13:00) Who owns midterm rentals — older than you'd think (1:14:36) Why midterm feels like AirBNB in 2012 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#711: A computer science degree used to feel like a sure thing. Job placement rates topped 90 percent. Starting salaries cleared $80,000. You could do the math on your student loans before you enrolled. That math doesn't work the same way anymore. New York Times "Your Money" columnist Ron Lieber joins us to walk through what families actually need to know before borrowing for college. He covers how to use the federal College Scorecard to look up earnings by school and by major. He explains why the scariest student loan headlines are almost always about graduate school rather than undergraduate debt. And he makes the case that liberal arts majors tend to catch up to their STEM peers by mid-career - even if the early numbers don't show it. Lieber also makes a case that the financial return on college extends beyond salary data. Alumni networks, mentorship, and lifelong friendships all factor into the equation. He suggests asking schools pointed questions about reunion attendance and alumni giving rates as a way to gauge how connected - and how useful - a community actually stays after graduation. On the debt question, Lieber draws a clear line between federal undergraduate loans, which cap around $31,000, and the more dangerous combinations of Parent PLUS loans and private debt that drive the horror stories you see in the news. He also addresses the community college path in detail - including what it actually takes to pull it off without losing time or credits along the way. The conversation closes with a framework for parents: keep sparking conversations with your kids, stay curious about what they're drawn to, and treat yourself less as an advice-giver and more as someone planting seeds. Share this episode with a friend, colleagues, and your college student: https://affordanything.com/episode711 Timestamps: Note: Timestamps will vary on individual listening devices based on dynamic advertising run times. The provided timestamps are approximate and may be several minutes off due to changing ad lengths. (00:00) No BLS jobs report today  (01:41) Ron Lieber intro – NYT personal finance columnist, student debt expert (02:41) College still worth it? Ron says yes, despite tough entry-level job market (05:03) How to use the College Scorecard  (06:27) Liberal arts majors often catch up by mid-career  (07:17) The non-financial ROI of college  (15:08) How much debt is too much? Federal undergrad cap is $31,000 (18:31) Community college as a launchpad; savings potential, but requires high executive functioning (21:36) Scary student debt headlines are mostly about grad school, not undergrad (24:39) AI and shifting willingness to pay; colleges facing enrollment pressure (37:00) Financial aid office dynamics  (40:39) Peak 18-year-olds; demographic cliff hits colleges differently by region (45:54) Location matters; urban schools have recruiter and networking advantages (54:11) Framework for parents and students; stay curious Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#710: What does it really look like to balance financial optimization with real-life tradeoffs—whether that's choosing meaningful work, spending down your savings, or deciding where your next dollar should go? Mike is planning to retire at 60 with $1 million saved and a clear goal: spend it all during his lifetime. He wants to know how to structure his withdrawals so he can maximize income now while still covering the decades ahead. Kip was planning to retire after feeling burned out—until a chance conversation led him to a completely different role within his company. Now he's happier than ever, but he's also curious about whether real estate syndications are a smart next step for investing. Jessie and their spouse are about five years away from early retirement and trying to decide where their next savings dollar should go—keep maxing out Roth IRAs, or shift toward a taxable account for more flexibility? We'll get into all of that—and how to think through each of these decisions—on today's episode. Resources Mentioned: Listen to Kip's previous question: https://affordanything.com/episode627 Don't miss the YFRP Webinar! https://affordanything.com/rental2026 Join the YFRP waitlist:⁠ https://courses.affordanything.com Stay in the Loop:⁠ https://affordanything.com/newsletter⁠ Die with Zero, a book by Bill Perkins: ⁠https://amzn.to/3P1ydBS⁠ Share this episode with a friend, colleagues, and your arborist: https://affordanything.com/episode710 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#709: Keith Wargo has spent decades navigating one of the most daunting financial planning challenges a family can face: raising a child with a developmental disability. He joins us to share what families need to know. The financial stakes are significant. Keith, who is the CEO of Autism Speaks, estimates lifetime care costs for a person with a developmental disability can run between $1.4 and $2.4 million - and that figure may be conservative. Yet many families put off financial planning because the day-to-day demands of caregiving leave little room for anything else. One of the first things Keith walks us through is the federal benefits system. Medicaid and SSI are the primary lifelines for many families, but qualifying takes time - for Keith's family, it took three years of meetings and paperwork. There's also a critical detail: SSI requires the individual to have no more than $2,000 in assets in their name. A well-intentioned inheritance from a grandparent can wipe out eligibility overnight. That's why Keith recommends a special needs trust for most families. Assets held in the trust don't count against federal benefit limits. He also recommends pairing the trust with a "second to die" life insurance policy - one that pays out after both parents are gone - to help fund it. ABLE accounts round out the toolkit. Similar to a 529 plan, they allow tax-free contributions of up to $20,000 per year for a person with a qualifying disability. The funds cover everyday expenses like food, transportation, and entertainment. Unused 529 funds can also be rolled into an ABLE account, up to $20,000 per year. Keith also addresses trustee succession - who manages the money after the parents are gone, and who steps in after that person. His advice: start building a network early, revisit the plan every few years, and bring siblings into the financial conversation sooner than feels necessary. Timestamps: Note: Timestamps will vary on individual listening devices based on dynamic advertising run times. The provided timestamps are approximate and may be several minutes off due to changing ad lengths. (00:00) The Financial Reality of Developmental Disabilities (02:00) Caregiving's financial toll on families (03:41) Keith's background (04:26) His son AJ's diagnosis and journey (07:08) Rights and services end at age 22 (08:06) Medicaid, SSI, and SSDI explained (14:12) The $2,000 asset limit for SSI eligibility (14:33) Why special needs trusts matter (16:04) Life insurance as a funding tool (23:08) Planning two retirements simultaneously (25:04) ABLE accounts - the basics (27:06) ABLE account balance limits by state (36:35) Employment opportunities for neurodiverse workers (42:11) Fraud and safety risks to be aware of (51:15) Trustee succession planning (53:22) Rolling 529 funds into ABLE accounts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#708: What's the smartest way to handle big financial transitions—when the stakes are high and the “right” answer isn't always obvious? Anonymous “Cyndi Jr.” is helping their 73-year-old mother relocate across the country and needs to decide how to use the proceeds from a home sale to balance long-term housing security with inflation protection. Anonymous is trying to figure out how to handle quarterly estimated taxes on investment income—without relying on safe harbor rules that don't always reflect market swings. Luz, whose previous question was featured on the show, is now navigating a major job change and wondering what to do with an old 401(k)—while also rethinking how Roth accounts, an HSA, and debt all fit into a bigger financial strategy. We'll walk through each of these and help you think it through in today's episode. Resources mentioned: Don't miss the YFRP Webinar! https://affordanything.com/rental2026 Join the YFRP waitlist: https://courses.affordanything.com Listen to Luz's previous question: https://affordanything.com/episode583 Stay in the Loop: https://affordanything.com/newsletter Share this episode with a friend, colleagues, and Cyndi Lauper: https://affordanything.com/episode708 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#707: Joe and I traveled to the campus of Texas A&M University-Texarkana for a very special live recording. We were joined by Jay Davis, the Executive Director of Financial and Entrepreneurship Engagement, to answer questions from an incredible audience of students. Whether you're just starting your career or looking to "reset" your habits, this episode covers the essential transition from the classroom to the professional world.  Student Questions Hannah (Psychology Major): How do I navigate the trade-offs between passion, a paycheck, and peace of mind in my 20s without having regrets later? Hannah (Second Student): As I move from a student budget to a professional salary, how do I prevent "lifestyle creep" from eating my first big raise? Gabriel: How do I find the middle ground between being responsible for "Future Me" and actually enjoying my life while I'm young? Stephano: When is the right time to start investing, and how do I balance that with paying down student loans? Valarie: How do I build a solid credit score as a student without falling into the trap of high-interest debt? Thomas: What are the most important "marketable skills" I should be developing now to ensure financial security later? Key Takeaways Follow Curiosity Over Passion: Passion is often a side effect of mastery, not the starting point. Follow your curiosity into deep learning; the fulfillment (autonomy, mastery, and purpose) will follow once you become an expert in your craft. Build Your "Bravery Fund": High marketable skills and a solid emergency fund give you the freedom to take risks. If you have a financial cushion and low fixed costs, you have the "bravery" to pivot careers if your first choice isn't the right fit. Automate Your Success: The most effective way to beat lifestyle creep is to "hide" your raise from yourself. Set up automated transfers to retirement accounts or debt repayment for the same day your paycheck hits your account. Beware of High Fixed Costs: Avoid the "new grad" trap of heavy car payments ($700–$1,000/month). These high monthly obligations are the biggest inhibitors to your future housing flexibility and career mobility. The 24-Hour "Fun" Rule: To balance current enjoyment with future savings, create a deliberate "yes" list. If you want to spend on a hobby or experience, wait 24 hours to ensure it's a conscious choice rather than an impulse. Resources mentioned: Don't miss the YFRP Webinar on May 12th! ⁠https://affordanything.com/rental2026 A&M University Website: https://www.tamut.edu Grab a copy of Deep Work by Cal Newport: https://amzn.to/4truxs3 Receive our newsletters https://affordanything.com/newsletter Don't miss the YFRP Webinar on May 12th! https://affordanything.com/rental2026 YNAB for students: https://www.ynab.com/college Chapters Note: Timestamps are approximate and may vary across listening platforms due to dynamically inserted ads.  (00:00) The Abridged Live Performance from Texas A&M Texarkana (01:19) Hannah's Question: Passion vs. Paycheck (06:31) The "Bravery Fund" & Your Freedom to Pivot (13:35) Hannah's Question: Defeating Lifestyle Creep (20:43) Gabriel's Question: Future You vs. Present You (30:57) Stephano's Question: Debt vs. Investing (41:55) Valarie's Question: Building Credit Responsibly (50:15) Thomas's Question: Developing Marketable Skills Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#706: When the numbers look straightforward—but the rules, timing, and future are uncertain—how do you decide what to do next? KJ has $90,000 in student loans, a recent inheritance, and a lot of uncertainty around changing repayment policies, and is trying to decide whether to pay down debt now or hold onto cash in case future payments become unaffordable. Anonymous (let's call her Andrea)  is about seven years away from retirement with $1.9 million saved and is thinking about sequence of returns risk, and is wondering whether working part-time could help protect against a poorly timed market downturn or simply delay the risk. Anonymous (let's call him Andrew Ryan)  is a retired homeowner in their early 70s who recently bought a second home to be closer to family and is planning to rent it out part of the year, and is wondering how to structure it and how taxes work for a property that's both personal and income-producing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#705: Jon McNeill, former president of Tesla and COO of Lyft, starts with a simple problem: his teenage son is about to start driving, and he's worried about texting behind the wheel. Instead of setting rules, he builds a solution. That idea becomes TruMotion, a company that uses smartphone sensors to track driving behavior. You hear how the app figures out whether someone is actually in the driver's seat, and how that technology ends up powering programs used by major insurance companies. From there, we zoom out. McNeill walks us through the systems he uses to build and scale companies. He explains how to question assumptions, including a case where his team reduces a 12-page car loan document down to a few sentences after realizing none of it is legally required. We also talk about speed. At Tesla, he learns to make decisions quickly, even without perfect information. He describes how faster decision-making compounds advantage over time. You hear a story from his early days working with Tesla, when he visits multiple stores, signs up for test drives, and never gets a follow-up. That leads him to identify thousands of missed sales opportunities sitting in the pipeline. The fix comes from focusing on the bottleneck, not adding more leads. McNeill also shares how he approaches negotiations at scale, including working with government officials in China and learning how incentives and systems shape outcomes. Throughout the conversation, he returns to a few core ideas: simplify the problem, identify the constraint, and move quickly once you have enough information to act. McNeill's new book is The Algorithm: The Hypergrowth Formula That Transformed Tesla, Lululemon, General Motors, and SpaceX. Timestamps: Note: Timestamps will vary on individual listening devices based on dynamic advertising segments. The provided timestamps are approximate and may be several minutes off due to changing ad lengths. (00:00) Jon McNeill, former Tesla President and former COO of Lyft (06:50) The "First Principles" Mindset (15:05) Managing Hyper-growth at Tesla Solving for "Pain Points" vs. Chasing Profit Autonomous Driving and Electric Vehicles Working with Visionary Founders Building a Culture of Innovation in any Organization Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#704: How do you make smart financial decisions when you're balancing debt, investing, and big life changes … all at the same time? Today, Brigham and his wife, ages 25 and 23, wonder: can they buy a $500,000 home AND still support a stay-at-home parent? Next, JVR asks how to balance high-interest credit card debt, student loans, and a large cash reserve while planning for a future home purchase in the Bay Area. Then we'll hear back from Elizabeth, from Episode 611 (from just under 1 year ago), with an update and a follow-up question on how to approach real estate investing over the next five years when she's unsure where she'll ultimately settle. We'll cover all of that in today's Q&A episode. Resources: Elizabeth's (formerly Anonymous) original call: https://affordanything.com/episode611 Share this episode with a friend, colleagues, and your mailman: https://affordanything.com/episode704 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#703: April's jobs report comes in much stronger than expected, with 178,000 jobs added and unemployment ticking down to 4.3 percent. That headline deserves a closer look, especially when other labor data still points to a slower, lower-hiring environment.From there, we break down what the latest Fed decision means, why mortgage rates remain elevated, and how a sudden spike in oil and gas prices could affect inflation, consumer sentiment, and the broader economy. We also cover recent market volatility and why long-term investors may want to think differently about short-term swings. In the second half: News involving Vicki Robin that has rippled through the FIRE community, proposed changes could expand what 401(k) plans can hold, and major student loan developments — including the end of the SAVE plan and what borrowers should be watching next. Vicki Robin links: Paula's Newsletter - https://ckarchive.com/b/0vuwh9h9e4289c7mggrmzhv8qo9rqhnh50v Vicki's Substack - https://vickirobin.substack.com/p/abusers-and-the-women-who-love-them Afforder Community - affordanything.com/community Sources:
 https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2026/03/31/jolts-report-job-openings-february-2026 https://www.challengergray.com/blog/challenger-report-march-cuts-rise-25-from-february-ai-leads-reasons https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/ebsa/ebsa20260330 https://myeddebt.ed.gov Timestamps: Note: Timestamps will vary on individual listening devices based on dynamic advertising segments. The provided timestamps are approximate and may be several minutes off due to changing ad lengths. (00:00) A busy start to April(01:03) Stronger than expected jobs report(06:06) A softer picture for job openings(07:13) Where layoffs are showing up(10:15) Why the Fed held rates steady(12:05) What's keeping mortgage rates elevated(21:05) Why gas prices rose so quickly(27:28) How to think about market volatility(30:20) A proposed change for 401k plans(32:37) News from Vicki Robin(40:55) A shift in student loan management(42:37) What the end of SAVE means(45:16) Changes for Parent PLUS borrowers Share this episode with a friend, colleagues, and your airline gate agent: https://affordanything.com/episode703 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#702: Olivia is saving for a specific three-year goal and wants to know whether a money market fund is the right place to store that cash, or if a traditional savings account would be safer. Robert is planning to retire early in the next few years and is trying to decide whether to prioritize building taxable investments or continuing to grow Roth accounts. And finally, we'll hear from a listener with nearly 30 years of experience in social work who wants to open an adult day center in a rural area where services for disabled adults are extremely limited—but isn't sure whether to structure it as a nonprofit or a for-profit business. We'll tackle all of that on today's episode. Enjoy! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices