Sacramental Whine

Episode 118. In this episode I am joined by Thomas Bradshaw, a former ISM priest and now UCC congregant. We talk about the intersectionality between the Independent Sacramental Movement and Mainline Churches such as the United Church of Christ. Links: Alexandrian Community. St. John's United Church of Christ, Massillon Ohio.

Welcome to episode 117. In this episode there is an interview with D. T. Bryant, author of “Unless a Seed Falls to the Ground: Welcoming the Death of the Whiteness Gospel.” Father Danny Bryant serves as the priest of St. Mary of Bethany Parish and is a priest within the Anglican Free Fellowship of America. He and his wife Rebecca have four children. Danny has lived in middle Tennessee for over twenty years and grew up in southern California. Links: “Unless a Seed Falls to the Ground: Welcoming the Death of the Whiteness Gospel.” Ancient Apostolic Church of Alexandria. Anglican Free Fellowship of America.

In this episode, episode 116, I have the honor of speaking with Bishop Joshua Paszkiewicz, who serves as Coadjutor Bishop in the Ancient Apostolic Church of Alexandria. We have an exciting episode planned for you. We discussed several topics, especially post-denominationalism. Links: Ancient Apostolic Church of Alexandria.

Welcome to Episode 115! In this episode I interviewed Robert Ponsford.  Robert Ponsford is an Independent Episcopal Bishop with the Anglican Protestant Church which is the Anglican Ordinance of the United Episcopal Catholic Communion and a part of the Episcopal Free Communion. Links: Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement, Vol. 1. Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement, Vol. 2. Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement, Vol. 3. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling, and produced, in part, by the Ancient Apostolic Church of Alexandria.

Welcome to episode 114, in this episode I have the honor of speaking with Bishop Joel Dooley. Bishop Joel is the Primate of the Old Catholic Spirit Filled Church World Wide.  His passion for the Gospel and the Sacramental understanding is evident, as he talks with people of different faiths and backgrounds about the love  of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.  His ministry has encouraged many to continue their calling/and or a greater understanding of the independent Catholic movement.  While heading up a staff of churches and ministries. He celebrates Mass twice a week at St. Zachariah's Chapel with the congregation, connects with people on the streets, and dialogues amongst the Islamic community. With his background of Palliative Care, Travel in missions, Bible teaching, worship, and ministry for twenty years. Bishop Joel opens up about the exciting ways and openings of the Liberal Catholic Movement where he lives in Vancouver, Canada, and in our world today. Links: Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement: Volume One, Volume Two, & Volume Three! This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling, and is sponsored, in part, by the Ancient Apostolic Church of Alexandria.

Welcome to episode 113, in this episode I have the honor of interviewing Brother Merrick Moses. Brother Merrick Moses is an ordained Old Catholic Benedictine priest and monk, writer, community activist, and preacher living in Baltimore, MD. This native New Yorker is a graduate of Morgan State University with a Bachelor of Science degree in Psychology and a minor in Spanish language. He has completed the Education for Ministry program from the University of the South at Sewanee in Tennessee. Ordained to the order of deacons in 2004, priesthood in 2008, and professed life vows in 2021, Brother Merrick was one of the first Black Transmen ordained within the Old Catholic Movement in Baltimore, MD. He is currently serving as the board president of the Pride Center of Maryland, the third oldest Pride Center in the nation.  He is the first transsexual man to serve as board president in the 45-year history of the Center. Links: Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Vol. One. Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Vol. Two. Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Vol. Three. The Church Cracked Open: Disruption, Decline, and New Hope for Beloved Community by Stephanie Spellers. The Dream of God: A Call to Return by Verna Dozier. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and produced, in part, by the Ancient Apostolic Church of Alexandria.

Welcome to episode 112! In this episode I explore the mysticism of Howard Thurman and the pragmatism of Martin Luther King, Jr. In seminary I (David Oliver Kling) specialized in Black Church and African Diaspora Studies and the theology of Thurman and King were the focus of my research. I believe the Independent Sacramental Movement can learn a lot from Thurman and King. Links: Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Volume One. Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Volume Two. Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Volume Three. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and is produced, in part, by the Ancient Apostolic Church of Alexandria.  

Welcome to episode 111, in this episode I have the honor of interviewing Bishop Shaun McCann, also known as Patriarch Iohannes IV of the Apostolic Johannite Church. Originally consecrated on December 22nd, 2002 as Bishop of Alberta, Iohannes IV was shortly thereafter elevated to Patriarch and Primate of the Apostolic Johannite Church and has served faithfully in that role since July 23rd, 2003. Since that time, Iohannes IV has led the Church through almost two decades of growth and development including expanding the Johannite Church to numerous centres across several countries, writing the All Saints Accord, establishing St. Raphael the Archangel Theological Seminary, redesigning the Priesthood Formation Program, producing a new edition of the Sacramentary, overseeing the translation and publication of the Levitikon: The Gospels according to the Primitive Church, as well as initiating and establishing the Church's online educational media. He has also directed the formation of numerous clerics and lay leaders, and presided over almost two decades of Conclaves, the annual gathering of Johannites from around the world. He is a dedicated student of the Western Mystery Tradition, having been recognized as a Master of the Temple in the Ordo Sacrae Flammae and served previously as Grand Master of the Friary. He is also an Initiate and Chevalier in several Knights Templar and Chivalric lineages, as well as a Martinist Free Initiator, Chevalier Bienfaisant de la Cité Sainte, Elus Coen, Master Mason, and a member of the Order of Bards, Ovates and Druids in the Druid Grade. In addition to these undertakings, Iohannes IV is also an avid reader of history, and enjoys writing and playing music on several instruments when time allows. Links: Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement, Volume One. Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement, Volume Two. Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement, Volume Three. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling, a presiding bishop of the Ancient Apostolic Church of Alexandria.

Welcome to episode 110, in this episode I welcome back Bishop Gregory Godsey. He is the presiding bishop of the Old Catholic Churches International and a friend. In this episode we talk about the Synod on Synodality and a recent post on social media of interest to those within the Independent Sacramental Movement. Links: Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Volume One. Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Volume Two. Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Volume Three. What is the Synod on Synodality? Issue with the Open Letter, National Catholic Reporter. New Catholic Community. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling, one of three presiding bishops within the Ancient Apostolic Church of Alexandria.

Welcome to episode 109. In this episode I present a sermon I preached titled, "An Introduction to the 4th Way." Before the sermon I talk about ordination and consecration from an essay I had written back in 2004 and after the sermon I have some final thoughts. Links: Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Vol. 1! Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Vol. 2! This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling under the auspicies of the Ancient Apostolic Church of Alexandria.

Welcome to episode 108, in this episode I have the honor of interviewing the Reverend Shawn Sanford Beck. The Rev. Shawn Sanford Beck is an ecumenical Christian priest in the Anglican tradition, and a member of the Order of Bards, Ovates, and Druids. He is the author of Christian Animism, and the founder of the Ecumenical Companions of Sophia, an informal online community fostering Christian-Pagan dialogue and spiritual practice.  He lives with his family on an off-the-grid farm community in north-western Saskatchewan, where he is chaplain to the human and more-than-human wights of the community.  When not writing sermons, chopping wood, or practicing magic, Shawn can be counted on to have his nose buried in a book. Links: Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement, Vol. 1. Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement, Vol. 2. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling, and produced by the Ancient Apostolic Church of Alexandria.

Welcome to episode 107, in this episode I welcome back Bishop Tom Bryant. He was first on the podcast back in episode 97. Bishop Tom is a bishop within the Independent Old Catholic Church, a parish pastor, and an educator. It is great to have him back. Links: Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Vol. One. Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Vol. Two. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling.

Welcome to episode 106! In this episode, I welcome back Father Timothy Olivieri. I first had Father Tim on the podcast back in episode 47 when he was a postulant with the Community of Saint George. Then he was on episode 58 when he was a subdeacon, and again in episode 84. Father Tim was ordained to the priesthood in October 2021 and it is an honor to have him back. Links: Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Vol. 1. Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Vol. 2. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and produced by the Community of Saint George(Young Rite).

Welcome to Episode 105, in this episode I have the honor of welcoming back the Very Reverend Doctor Peter-Michael Preble, a priest with the Independent Old Catholic Church and a true renaissance man. Monsignor Preble was initially interviewed in episode 96 and it is an honor to have him back. Links: Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Vol. 1. Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Vol. 2. Extraordinary Catholics Podcast. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and produced by the Community of Saint George.

Welcome to episode 104, in this episode I have the honor of interviewing Bishop Linda Rounds-Nichols. Although not recognized as such at the time, Linda's first call to the ministry may have been when she wasn't yet a teenager. Since no one saw that situation as a call, she followed another dream and became an educator:  first a teacher, then a counselor, then a central office administrator, and finally a principal. She also served as an adjunct instructor in higher education, so throughout her career, her students ranged from pre-school to post-grads. As her tenure in education was ending, that call to the ministry returned, in invitations to study programs, questions from church people, and finally during one of the times she held the chalice while assisting with communion. She noticed, fought the call, then followed. Bishop Linda is now the director of Public Relations and Communications with the Catholic Apostolic Church of Antioch, dean emerita of Sophia Divinity School and church historian. Links: Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Vol. 1. Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Vol. 2. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling, and produced by the Community of Saint George. 

Welcome to episode 103, in this episode I have the honor of interviewing Bishop Rick Saint. Originally from the southern United States, Bishop Rick Saint is currently based in Thailand. The son of a protestant pastor, he grew up in church. Feeling a call to ministry as a teen, he attended Southeastern University for his undergraduate degree before pursuing a Master's of Church Ministries from Assemblies of God Theological Seminary. While doing his studies, Bishop Rick served on the ministry team of Carpenter's Home, a 10,000-seat church located in Lakeland, Florida. He hosted a 6-hour inspirational radio program, “The Rick Saint Show” each Sunday on church's radio station, as well as 15-minute and 30-minute daily spots teaching on the Jewish roots of Christianity. During this time, he felt God calling him into the historic churches and began to pursue holy orders with the Old Catholic Church of North America. While continuing at Carpenter's Home, he also served as a deacon on the altar of the Pro-Cathedral of Jesus of Nazareth, part of the Iglesia Filipina Independiente (Philippine Independent Church) in Tampa, Florida. After completing a Master's of Divinity from St. Michael's College, Bishop Rick was ordained a priest in 2004. As a bi-vocational priest, he pioneered St. Thomas More Old Catholic Mission which quickly grew from 3 to 25 adult members plus children while he also taught public school. Unable to find Old Catholic catechism materials for his parish, he published A Short Catechism of the Old Catholic Church. During this time, Bishop Rick was the featured speaker at conferences in various churches teaching on the Jewish roots of Christianity and the arts in worship, as well as training clergy and lay leaders in the areas of healing and deliverance. In 2007, Bishop Rick took a position as the Director of Continuing Education at Walters State Community College in Tennessee and turned the pastorate of St. Thomas More over to one of the clergies he had trained. After 2 years at Walters State, he resigned and relocated to Asia, where he has worked in international education as a teacher, head of school, and academic officer in Korea, Thailand, Cambodia, and Myanmar. While he was in Asia, the Old Catholic Church of North America reorganized as the Old Catholic Communion of North America, leaving him without a spiritual “home.” Although he worked with different churches over the years, as these countries are primarily Buddhist, Bishop Rick found there were very few open and affirming churches in Asia and only one church that was part of the Independent Sacramental Movement in any of the countries in which he lived. Bishop Rick began Resurrection Fellowship in Thailand, which he currently pastors. As people were coming to (then Father) Rick to be confirmed, there was a demand for episcopal oversight. In searching for such, Bishop Rick developed a fraternal relationship with Bishop Regen Luna of the Philippines, who was seeking to develop an independent sacramental jurisdiction in Asia. Out of their friendship/cooperation, Christ Communion was born, and they elevated Bishop Rick to the episcopacy to do the work of a missionary bishop in Thailand. Only a year old, Christ Communion already has parishes and ministries growing in the Philippines, Thailand, Korea, and the United States. Focusing on the overwhelming grace of God, Bishop Rick continues to preach and teach “how Jesus of Nazareth, anointed by the Holy Spirit, went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil.” Links: Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement, Vol. 1 Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement, Vol. 2 This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling, and produced by the Community of Saint George (the Young Rite).

Welcome to episode 102, in this episode I have the honor of interviewing Bishop Pamela Joy Giese. Please consider supporting this podcast by purchasing the books based upon it.  The books are titled “Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Volume 1 and Volume 2.” You can find them on Amazon and the easiest way to location them is to search my name, David Oliver Kling and they should show up. Please consider purchasing these books and help support this podcast. Bishop Pamela Joy Giese has a lifelong interest in the esoteric, having had her first mystical experience at age 5.  She holds a Bachelor of Science degree in Psychology from the University of Wisconsin-Whitewater and a Master of Sacred Science from the International College of Esoteric Studies in Barbados.  She was ordained a priest in the Eglise Gnostique Catholique Apostolique in 2001 and later consecrated a bishop in 2010.  She is an active member of the Theosophical Society and a founding member of the Arnica Collective and the Treasury of Light, a Gnostic Church in Newcastle-upon-Tyne, in England.  For the past 40+ years, she continues to be employed as a scientific computer programmer to fund her book habit. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling, and produced by The Community of Saint George, a Young Rite Jurisdiction.

In this episode, I have the honor of interviewing the Reverend Mark Townsend. He is the author of several books including “Jesus through Pagan Eyes,” and “Diary of a Heretic.” Mark was ordained in The Church of England in 1996. However, in July 2010 he decided to resign his Anglican orders and move over to an Independent Sacramental Church. It was a huge decision for Mark, but he feels more able to be a good friend of the Church of England on the outside than an unhappy Cleric within. Mark has been an Independent Priest since June 2011. His ‘Parish' has no geographical boundaries, leaving him free to offer his services and ceremonies to all. As an Independent Priest and member of the Progressive Christian Alliance (PCA), Mark is able to express his open vision of Christian Priesthood in a fully sacramental way. Mark is also a professional Celebrant and a member of the Association of Independent Celebrants. One of the greatest blessings of the last few years is Mark's discovery of the earth-based path of Druidry, which he sees as totally compatible with Christianity. Most modern Druids see their path not so much as a religion but more as a philosophy, which means that there are many who follow the Druid ways and yet remain Christian, Jewish, Buddhist or even Atheist. As a Christian member of The Order of Bards, Ovates and Druids (OBOD) he weaves many of the beautiful customs and rituals of this essentially British nature tradition into his ceremonies and services. In doing so he walks in the footsteps of saints like Francis of Assisi who was a deeply earth based pilgrim and who sang canticles to brother sun, sister moon and mother earth. Links:  Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Vol. 1. Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Vol. 2. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and produced by the Community of Saint George (a Young Rite jurisdiction).

Welcome to episode 100, the countdown to 100 is complete! I am delighted to have as my guest Edward Jarvis. Edward Jarvis (born in Yorkshire, England, 1975) is the author of several books including Carlos Duarte Costa: Testament of a Socialist Bishop and Sede Vacante: The Life and Legacy of Archbishop Thuc. Edward has a mixed ancestry which includes Slovenian, Irish, and French (Huguenot). Not initially academically-minded, he did a wide variety of jobs before leaning towards education and social work. Volunteering at a church-run rehab center in Italy led to a casual suggestion of enrolling on a theology course. Edward attributes now his particular interests within theology and religious studies to three factors: a non-religious upbringing, empathy for all things marginal and misunderstood, and the inspiring individuals and unusual experiences his life has been blessed with. Edward's studies (first in Italy, then in England and Brazil) coincided with his growing interest (and just a little involvement) in the ISM and the Independent Catholic world. Noticing significant gaps in the literature on these topics and the unreliability of many online sources, Edward began to nourish the idea of contributing to the published scholarship. His fourth book, The Anglican Church in Burma, is about to be published by Penn State University Press, though this one will be his first book on a non-ISM topic. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the ISM, Vol. 1. Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the ISM, Vol. 2. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and produced by the Community of Saint George (a Young Rite jurisdiction).

Welcome to episode 99, the countdown to episode 100 continues! In this episode I have the honor of interviewing Bishop Theodore Feldmann!     Bishop Theodore Feldmann is a retired professional pastoral musician and serves the Ordinariate of Divine Providence in the Ascension Alliance.   He teaches courses in the Ascension Theological College:  New Cosmology; Introduction to Liturgy; Sacraments of the Church and Liturgy Practice in which students are assigned the task of writing and presiding at their own liturgy.         Theodore's  life-long call to ordination convinced him that he needed to seek a different approach to ordination than that offered by the mainline denominations.  After several frustrating  attempts to be ordained in various jurisdictions, one of those students recommended the Catholic Apostolic Church of Antioch.  Archbishop Richard Gundrey of the Church of Antioch, responded enthusiastically and was organized and supportive. ​     After earning an M. Div. from Sophia Divinity School, he was incardinated as a deacon in 2005, and ordained to the priesthood in Baltimore, MD, in 2007.  Concurrently with his work in the Roman Catholic Church he founded of the Beloved Disciple Church of Antioch in Baltimore, an urban contemplative community and was pastor until his retirement when he and his spouse moved to New Orleans.   He was consecrated a bishop in the Independent Sacramental Movement in 2017. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the ISM, Vol 1. Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the ISM, Vol 2. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and produced by The Community of Saint George (a Young Rite jurisdiction).  

Welcome to episode 98, the count-down to episode 100 continues! In this episode, I have the honor of interviewing Father Andrew Miller. Andrew Miller is an ordained priest in the Celtic-Rite Old Catholic Church He came to organized religion as a teenager when he converted to Mormonism at age 16 where he discovered a love for Theology. While Studying Theology and philosophy in college, he felt himself called to a more orthodox expression of Christianity. For a time, he became an Evangelical Protestant and began seminary in 2009, attending Lexington Theological Seminary in Kentucky with the goal of becoming a Minister in the Christian Church - Disciples of Christ. It was at this time that he felt himself called to a more sacramental and traditional expression of the Christian faith and so became a Greek Orthodox Catechumen. He eventually decided not to be baptized in the Greek Orthodox Church as he was told that he could not receive Holy Communion unless his wife consented to allow his marriage to be blessed in the Orthodox Church, which she was not willing to do.  It was at this point that he became Old Catholic, receiving Baptism and Confirmation in the Ecumenical Catholic Church - USA.  He received a call to ordained priesthood because of a mystical experience at a time of deep depression and returned to Seminary, first at St. Paul School of Theology in Kansas City, and finally at Graceland University's Community of Christ Seminary from which I finally graduated with a Master of Arts in 2017.  He joined the Celtic-Rite Old Catholic Church because of a long-time personal relationship with then Presiding Bishop Thomas McKenna but has also served in the United States Old Catholic Church and is in formation with the interjurisdictional Society of Christ the King. He is an Associate of the Sisters of Charity of Leavenworth, and a practitioner of Vincentian Spirituality. He was ordained to the Priesthood of the Celtic-Rite Old Catholic Church in 2014 while serving as a Chaplain Resident at KU Hospital.  He spent two years in Clinical Pastoral Education at KU Hospital, both in Residency and in Fellowship.  Andrew enjoys stories, particularly movies and television and much of his writing has been about the theological implications of fictional stories, particularly movies and television.  Through his love of the cinema, he came to know Rev. Michelle Byerly of the United Methodist Church with whom he went to seminary at St. Paul's in Kansas City Missouri. The two remained close friends and together started and co-host the Podcast “A Pastor and a Priest Walk into a Movie Theater.” Together with Rev. Byerly, he is one of the four founders of “New Faith New Media” which is a Progressive inter-religious Podcast Platform, currently hosting two Podcasts: “A Pastor and a Priest Walk into a Movie Theater” and “Faith and What Resonates,” with a third in development. Currently, besides co-hosting his and Rev. Michelle's podcast, he serves on the Core Team of Christ the King Independent Catholic Church in Kansas City, Missouri, is a Volunteer Prison Minister with the Bethany Catholic Callout Group at Lansing Correctional Facility in Lansing, KS.  He is also actively involved in Politics according to his understanding of Social Justice, having served as a Precinct Committee Chair for the Leavenworth County Democratic Party and as a Volunteer Election Researcher with the Democratic Socialists of America. He has been married for 13 years and has a seven-year-old daughter named Scarlett. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. The ISM Database. Book: Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Vol. 1. Book: Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Vol. 2. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and produced by The Community of Saint George (a Young Rite jurisdiction).

Welcome to episode 97, the countdown to episode 100 continues, and in this episode, I have the honor of interviewing Bishop Tom Bryant. Of all the titles that clergy can use, Tom Bryant loves “Pastor” the most.  It combines the role of shepherding and loving a particular people with the function of leading through Word and Sacrament. Bishop Bryant was Ordained in 1986.  He has served as a church planter, a senior pastor, a professor, and a vice-president of a multi-million dollar mission’s agency. He was Consecrated a Bishop in 2019 and sees his role as serving the Church through caring for those called to Holy Orders.  Bishop Bryant loves the Independent Old Catholic Church and is ruthlessly committed to teaching, promoting, and celebrating the “old paths” that Jeremiah described (Jer.6.16) as the best means for 'Holding to the Faith once delivered.” (Jude 3). Tom attended Liberty University, Concordia Theological Seminary, the University of Virginia, Bethany Theological Seminary, and Agape Seminary, terminating with two earned Doctorates in historical theology and Sacred Dogmatic studies. Postdoctoral studies include a Diploma in Forestry from the North American School of Conservation and a Diploma from Radford University in Non-Profit Leadership.  Tom is married to his partner in life, Sherry, and have five wonderful children and seven grandchildren between them. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. Independent Sacramental Movement Database. Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Vol. 1 This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and produced by the Community of Saint George (a Young Rite jurisdiction).

Welcome to episode 96, the countdown to episode 100 continues!  In this episode, I have the honor of interviewing the Very Reverend Doctor Peter-Michael Preble. Monsignor Preble received an Associates's and bachelor’s degree from Eastern Nazarene College in Quincy, Massachusetts. He received his seminary training at the Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology in Brookline, Massachusetts, and a Doctor of Philosophy degree, with a concentration in Pastoral Psychology from the American International University in Indiana. Monsignor Preble holds several certifications in trauma and stress including being a Diplomat with the American Academy of Experts in Traumatic Stress. Monsignor Preble was ordained Deacon and Priest in 2004 in the Romanian Orthodox Archdiocese in the Americas and for 12 years served a Romanian Orthodox Parish in Southbridge, Massachusetts. In 2016 he was granted Ordained Ministerial Standing by the Pilgrim Association of the Massachusetts Conference of the United Church of Christ. In 2019 he was incardinated priest into the Independent Old Catholic Church by Bishop Thomas Bryant and in 2020 was elevated to Monsignor with the rank of Protonotary Apostolic and created Vicar Forane of New England in the Diocese of the Eastern United States of the Independent Old Catholic Church. Monsignor Preble is a Hospice Chaplain with the Brockton Visiting Nurses Association. He is a Military Chaplain with the Massachusetts Organized Militia, Fire Department Chaplain with the Quincy Massachusetts Fire Department, the Deputy Chief Chaplain with the Massachusetts Corps of Fire Chaplains, and National Chaplain for the Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War. Monsignor Preble has served parishes in the Romanian Orthodox Church as well as 3 parishes as interim minister in the United Church of Christ. Monsignor Preble is Married to Nicolette and has a daughter Oonagh. Monsignor Preble and his wife Nicky are living historians reenacting life in 18th and 19th century New England. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. Would you like to support this podcast?  Please consider purchasing a copy of the book, Sacramental Whine: Chronicling the Independent Sacramental Movement Volume One. A book showcasing some of the many interviews from this podcast. It is available on Amazon for $14.99. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and produced by the Community of Saint George (a Young Rite jurisdiction).

Welcome to episode 95, the countdown to episode 100 is on!  Can you believe we are only 5 episodes away from 100! In this episode, I will be talking about the Convergence Movement and have as my guests Father Kevin Daugherty and Father Michaelangelo D’Arrigo. The Reverend Father Kevin Daugherty is a priest and an Elder and Secretary-Treasurer within the Convergent Christian Communion. The Reverend Canon Michaelangelo D'Arrigo is a Priest and an Elder in the Convergent Christian Communion, and Canon to their Presiding Bishop. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. Resources on the Convergent Movement. Recommended Books on the Convergent Movement: "Great Emergence: How Christianity is Changing and Why," by Phyllis Tickle. "Becoming Orthodox: A Journey to the Ancient Christian Faith," by Peter Gillquist. "Evangelical, Sacramental, and Pentecostal: Why the Church should be all three," by Gordon T. Smith. "Evangelicals on the Canterbury Trail: Why Evangelicals are Attracted to the Liturgical Church," by Robert Webber. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and produced by the Community of Saint George (a Young Rite jurisdiction).

Welcome to Episode 94, in this episode I have the honor of interviewing Deacon Christopher Maximus. Deacon Christopher Maximus – essential grocery worker by day, former Boy Scout, semi-retired Drag Queen, grateful alcoholic, human rights activist, seminarian, and Deacon. As a teenager, Christopher found God’s grace and love in his local Eastern Orthodox Church after an invitation to attend from his high school best friend. Eventually, he was baptized and chrismated in the Antiochian Orthodox Church. This is the time when he first felt a monastic and clerical calling. After being shunned by the local Orthodox parish for his sexuality he took a 10-year break from organized religion. After seeking substance abuse treatment, Christopher became involved with a local Episcopal parish because of their inclusiveness.  He was received into the Anglican Communion at Saint Mark's Cathedral in Seattle, WA. During a moment of private prayer at his then parish, he vowed to God that if the compulsion to drink was eliminated, he would dedicate his life to the service of the Church.  He became very involved in his parish. Christopher and his husband, both became habited Religious Brothers with a dispersed Franciscan Order inside of the Anglican Communion. In his discernment for theological education, Christopher discovered the rich history of the Old Catholic and Independent Sacramental Movements and was directed toward an autonomous Eastern Orthodox jurisdiction by a friend. In the fall of 2018, he and his husband were received into the autonomous Eastern Orthodox jurisdiction, and after some time of independent training with an Orthodox hierarch, he was ordained to the Holy Diaconate on the Feast of Saint Patrick, The Enlightener of Ireland, in Toledo, OH. In the winter of 2020, Deacon Christopher, his husband, and their two fur-children packed up and moved across the country from their home in Seattle, Washington to Toledo, Ohio in pursuit of theological education. At the beginning of summer 2020, Deacon Christopher began his first year of theological seminary formation with Saint Symeon the New Theologian House of Studies through the Community of Saint George. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and produced by the Community of Saint George (a Young Rite jurisdiction).

Welcome to Episode 93, in this episode I have the honor of welcoming back Acolyte Kathleen Ostlie.  She was initially a guest on the podcast a little over a year ago and it is great to have her back. Kathleen Ostlie, is in minor orders as an acolyte in the Apostolic Johannite Church; she has a love for writing, studying philosophy, and connecting with all sorts of people. She is passionate about bringing diverse groups of people together for respectful discourse and finding connections. She is a believer in truth in an increasingly relativist world, but a Christian mystic open to heart-centered ideas. While she has been published in compilation books and magazines, she is currently working on her first solo book to include wisdom sayings, poetry, and essays relevant to the journey of the seeker, and hopes to inspire others on their journey. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and produced by The Community of Saint George (a Young Rite jurisdiction).

Welcome to Episode 92, in this episode I welcome back Father Kevin Daugherty.  I’ve had Father Kevin on the podcast before, but since it has been a while let me introduce him again. Fr. Kevin Daugherty is a priest and a New Monastic, from Lincoln, Pennsylvania. Fr. Kevin is an Elder and Secretary-Treasurer within the Convergent Christian Communion, co-founder, and Abbot of Kindling Fire: A New Monastic Order, and incoming Curate (Assistant Pastor) for Solomon's Porch in Phoenix, Arizona. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and produced by the Community of Saint George (the Young Rite).  

Welcome to Episode 91, in this episode I have the honor of interviewing Chaplain Robert Caruso. Chaplain Robert W. Caruso is a native of Chicago, Illinois. Chaplain Caruso earned a Bachelor of Arts degree from Hamline University, St. Paul, Minnesota with a double major in Philosophy and Legal Studies. He went on and earned a Master of Divinity with an emphasis in clinical counseling degree as well as a Master of Arts in Theology and World Religions from United Theological Seminary in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Chaplain Caruso is an ordained priest (15 Years) and is ecclesiastically endorsed by the Old Catholic Church. He worked in many Old Catholic parish communities as a pastor/priest and as a prison chaplain in the Michigan Department of Corrections before entering the Army. He is currently in his second year completing a Doctor of Ministry hybrid program in military chaplaincy from Wesley Theological Seminary in Washington, D.C. Chaplain Caruso entered the U.S. Army as a First Lieutenant in August 2012, at Fort Jackson, South Carolina. He was assigned to the 615th Aviation Support Battalion in Fort Hood, Texas. On May 1, 2013, he was moved to serve in Kuwait. Further, he has served as chaplain for the 509th Infantry Battalion (Airborne) in Alaska, from August 2016-2019. He is currently serving as the Deputy Brigade Chaplain for 5th Recruiting Brigade at Joint Base San Antonio, Texas (JBSA). Chaplain Caruso is the author of the 2009 book, “The Old Catholic Church: Understanding the Origin, Essence, and Theology of a Church that is Unknown and Misunderstood by Many in North America.” Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and produced by The Community of Saint George (a Young Rite jurisdiction).

Welcome to episode 89. In this episode, I have the honor of interviewing Father Shaun Ake-Little. Father Shaun was recently ordained to the priesthood this past June within the Progressive Catholic Church by Bishop Joseph Ciccone. He was informally in formation with another jurisdiction for about 8 years before attending seminary at Ascension Theological College.  While in formation, he served on his parish board of directors and served as president of the school board and as director of religious education.  For his day job, he teaches 7th-grade geography and moderates the school's history club.  In addition to being ordained in June, Father Shaun and his husband Ethan and moved into a new home right outside of Philadelphia where they reside with their new puppy Daisy and two cats Grayson and JoJo. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and is produced by the Community of Saint George (a Young Rite jurisdiction).

Welcome to episode 89, in this episode I have the honor of interviewing Archbishop Jason Sanderson. Bishop Jason was born in Vermont, and from the age of 18 was involved with the Independent Catholic/Orthodox movement, first being part of an Old Calendar Greek Orthodox monastery, before being transferred to a bishop in the American Orthodox Church. He took a hiatus from active ministry in 1993 and returned to it by joining the Liberal Catholic Church International in 2000, being received as a deacon. He was ordained to the priesthood in 2002, consecrated bishop in 2006, and elected Presiding Archbishop in 2012, serving one term. During his episcopacy, he oversaw the development of several missions and projects in Africa, and a review of the liturgy to be gender inclusive. He is retired to northern New Hampshire, where he focuses his efforts on personal ministry and chaplaincy, and is pursuing a Bachelor of Arts in psychology to help develop a program to minister to those suffering from PTSD. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and is produced by The Community of Saint George (a Young Rite jurisdiction).  

Welcome to Episode 88, in this episode I have the honor of interviewing Father William Eddy. Father William was ordained a priest in October of 2018 within the Ascension Alliance, and he has lived an eclectic spiritual life.  At eight he challenged his Sunday school teacher. He had intuitively known that what was being told to him was not the truth.  In his early teens, he read J. Krishnamurti, “on Education and the Significance of Life.”  This was his first intellectual exposure to the concepts of enlightenment and the limitations of individuality. This affected him. He learned about Transcendental Meditation in 1972 and has greatly benefited from it. He learned the advanced program and moved to Fairfield, Iowa.  The home of the Transcendental M movement. He started doing copious amounts of meditation in various modalities; however, his heart was getting restless.  He had a lot of experience of spirit and consciousness, but his heart was not fulfilled.  He started exploring other avenues of spiritual progress.  He explored several things including the local Liberal Catholic Church parish. In December of 2012, he became aware of a calling to become a priest after growing in the Liberal Catholic Church over the years. While he was supported there, he had an epiphany that lead him to Spiritus Christi a nearby parish within the Ascension Alliance. Spiritus Christi is a very open and welcoming community. There are many similarities to the Liberal Catholic Church but more inclusive. There are women priests and gay clergy.  It is theologically diverse and allows for individual growth.  Father William has done several things in his 71 years of life and I am happy to have him on the podcast. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and produced by the Community of Saint George (a Young Rite jurisdiction).

Welcome to episode 87, in this episode I have the honor of interviewing seminarian Laura Hayes Marsh. Laura Hayes Marsh is currently a Seminarian with Ascension Alliance at Ascension Theological College.  She has worn many hats in life such as mother, divorcée, and widow.  Her previous educational pursuits include an associate degree in Chemistry and a Bachelor of Science degree in Biology with a minor in Psychology.  She’s a Sagittarius who likes to sing and bake.  She currently works as a paraprofessional in a self-contained elementary classroom for students with Autism (ABLE) and works on weekends and holidays as a Pharmacy Technician.  In the past, her occupations have included classroom teacher, state environmental investigator, and owner of a home bakery called, “Going Bananas.”  Her spiritual formation began in the United Methodist Church; however, the Episcopal Church offered a part-time job in the late 1990s, after which the liturgy spoke to Laura’s soul, and she became a member of an Episcopal parish.  After Confirmation, God nudged her to do more than just singing in the Chancel Choir, and in 2015, she served as a Lector, a Eucharistic Minister, and as a Lay Eucharistic Visitor in the Episcopal Church.  Serving in various church ministries led her to community service as an on-call Justice Court Chaplain and participation in the Behavioral Health and Suicide Prevention Taskforce. In 2017, a pilgrimage to the Holy Land opened her heart and mind, and she acknowledged a call to the Priesthood.  She began discerning a vocation in the Episcopal church and working with a Spiritual Director.  During the process of discernment, an unfulfilled need was discovered. Finding a Spiritual Director who was a better fit led her to pursue a Master of Divinity with Ascension Alliance.  Her ministry goal is in Healthcare Chaplaincy. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and produced by The Community of Saint George (a Young Rite jurisdiction).

Welcome to episode 86! In this episode, I have the honor of interviewing the Most Reverend Cathy Chalmers. Bishop Cathy is a bishop in the Ascension Alliance/Community of Ascensionists, and a Board Certified Chaplain (BCC) under the auspices of the Association of Professional Chaplains (APC/BCCI).  She works full time as a professional healthcare chaplain (both hospice and hospital chaplaincy), currently with the inpatient Palliative Care consult service at Providence Regional Medical Center in Everett, Washington, and serves as Director of Chaplaincy for the Ascension Alliance.  Bishop Cathy also serves as a member of the Interfaith clergy staff at Unity in Lynnwood, Washington, in liturgical and teaching roles.  She holds Master of Divinity degrees from Vanderbilt Divinity School (with Honors) and the Ascension Alliance's seminary, Ascension Theological College, where she now serves as faculty. She holds a Bachelor of Science in Biological Sciences from Florida State University and a Diploma in Professional Music from Berklee College of Music in Boston (summa cum laude).  Prior to entering the ministry, Cathy had a lengthy career as a professional scientist and has also worked in the music industry professionally as a performing and recording musician.  She has spent time over many years as a volunteer political activist for the LGBTQ community. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and is produced by the Community of Saint George (a Young Rite jurisdiction).

Welcome to Episode 85, in this episode I have the honor of interviewing the Right Reverend Bishop, Friar James Michael St. George, also known as Father or Friar Jim. Friar Jim, serves as a Bishop within the Old Catholic Churches International and is the Bishop of the Diocese of Saint Bernard of Clairvaux (which includes Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and part of New York) and serves as Pastor of Saint Miriam Pro-Cathedral Parish, and is a professed Franciscan. He was born and raised in Erie, Pennsylvania and graduated from college and became a licensed Funeral Director and returned to help run the family funeral home before going back to college to attend formal seminary in Washington, DC. In addition to his prior funeral and business professional experience, his career has allowed him to serve as a youth pastor, nursing home and hospice chaplain, and as a Certified Trauma Chaplain focusing primarily on trauma and triage emergency services. Friar Jim served as a Trauma/Triage Chaplain at Lehigh Valley Hospital, a nationally recognized trauma and medical center in Allentown for over six years. In addition to his serving as Pastor at Saint Miriam Parish, Friar Jim is an Adjunct Professor and Instructor at two Philadelphia area universities teaching in the areas of Ethics, World Religions, Philosophy, Introduction to the Bible, Religion, and Culture, Catholic Theology and Urban Studies and Justice. Friar Jim serves now, or has previously served, on the Adjunct Staff for Community College of Philadelphia, Chestnut Hill College in Philadelphia, University of Phoenix, and has lectured at The University of Pennsylvania and various churches and inter-faith groups in the Philadelphia region. Friar Jim is an alum of Gannon University, Pittsburgh Institute of Mortuary Science, Howard University, Howard University School of Divinity, and completed additional course study and received certifications at Virginia Theological Seminary, Catholic University, St. Louis University, Canterbury Cathedral International Studies Centre, the Benedictine Abbaye Notre-Dame du Bec in Normandy France, Sibley Hospital in Washington, DC, Lehigh Valley Hospital, Allentown, PA, and Albert Einstein Medical Center, Philadelphia, PA, with a Residency in Clinical Pastoral Education. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and is produced by the Community of Saint George (a Young Rite jurisdiction).

Welcome to Episode 84, in this episode I have the pleasure of welcoming back the Reverend Subdeacon Tim Olivieri.  I initially interviewed Tim in episode 47 and had him back in episode 58. We talk about Institution Building, nonprofit status, 501c3, and the offering of ecclesiastical degrees. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and produced by the Community of Saint George (a Young Rite jurisdiction).

Welcome to episode 83, In this episode, I have the honor of interviewing Deacon Taylor Tracy.  He is a deacon within the Progressive Catholic Church and, after years of formation with many unexpected and exciting turns, he is slated to be ordained to the priesthood on Saturday, February 13, 2021. Deacon Taylor’s love for ministry began at an early age when he began to sing in his church choir at the age of ten.  By the time he was twelve, he was composing and conducting ensembles in his community, and by thirteen, he was hired as a church music director.  Since that time fourteen years later, he has served as the director of music at churches ranging in size from 60 to 600.  In addition to music ministry, he served as the director of divine worship and community at St. Paul University Parish, where weekly attendance grew from 600 to 2,000.  His time at St. Paul's was a turning point; he got to see what "healthy" ministry really looks like; he led a staff of twelve and learned far more from them than they probably did from him.  He continued his journey by serving as the executive director of a non-profit which served students in some of Wichita's most impoverished neighborhoods. He then moved to Kansas City with his fiancé, where he served in two United Methodist churches as director of music and youth and as the church administrator in another parish simultaneously.  He is currently on the Board of Directors for the North Kansas City Symphony Orchestra and has previously served with the National Association of Pastoral Musicians' local chapter. He is also the founding artistic conductor of the sixty-voice chorus, United in Voice, a group composed of nine denominations and counting with an emphasis on celebrating traditional sacred music.  In addition to countless hours of church leadership and formation seminars, Deacon Taylor has studied at Wichita State University in music education, at Newman University in theology and philosophy, The Liturgical Institute, and the Sancta Sophia Academy for Clergy Formation in the Progressive Catholic Church, under the direction and mentorship of Bishops Robert Chung and Dr. Marc Morales Del Castillo.  Deacon Taylor Tracy is the founding pastor and lead planter for Christ the King Church in Kansas City, Missouri, an independent and affirming Catholic community.  He is currently completing an 11-month planting process and will launch on Sunday, February 14, 2021, the day after his planned ordination to the priesthood. His primary vocational interests include; church planting, parish ministry, church health, and evangelism. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. Practical Church Planting Podcast. Canva. Book: "No Silver Bullets: Five Small Shifts that will Transform your Ministry," by Daniel Im. This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and produced by the Community of Saint George (a Young Rite jurisdiction).

Welcome to episode 82! In this episode, I discuss the life and legacy of Archbishop Arnold Harris Mathew, a Grandfather of the Independent Sacramental Movement. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by David Oliver Kling and is produced by the Community of Saint George (a Young Rite jurisdiction).

Welcome to episode 81! In this episode, I have the honor of interviewing Deacon Mir Plemmons. Chaplain Mir Plemmons is a brand-new Deacon in the Ecumenical Catholic Communion and a Novice of the Order of Ecumenical Franciscans. He has been a Franciscan for 28 years and has served as a chaplain for 34 years. He and his wife live *almost* far enough from Seattle to enjoy the natural terrain Washington has to offer, and he teaches high school special education. He does disaster mental health as a Field Traumatologist. He has extensively taught socio-emotional skills. He is a writer and an editor and serves and advocates for Intersex, QUILTBAG+, and Science Fiction & Fantasy Fandom. He volunteers extensively in multiple organizations including, but not limited to, the Society for Creative Anachronism, Civil Air Patrol, and Okanogan Fire Protection District 12. He tries hard to pay attention to his wife’s reminders to get enough self-care and rest to at least not be a bad example… Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. The Royal Manticoran Navy: The Official Honor Harrington Fan Association. The Society for Creative Anachronism. STARFLEET International. Our Lady of Fatima Chapel (Richmond, VA). This podcast is hosted by Bishop David Oliver Kling and produced by The Community of Saint George - a Young Rite jurisdiction.  

Welcome to Episode 80!  Hard to believe we have been around for 80 episodes.  I’m excited to be interviewing The Reverend Canon Michaelangelo D’Arrigo.  The Reverend Canon Michaelangelo D'Arrigo lives in the Metropolitan Atlanta, Georgia, area with his wife, Claudia, a Therapeutic Massage Therapist, son, D'Mitri, a high schooler, two doggies, and a cat. Before ordination, he worked as a professional musician, and as a substance abuse counselor He was ordained to the Anglican Priesthood in 2006 and spent two years in parish ministry, specializing in Pastoral Counseling and Liturgical Writing. He then worked as a missionary to the homeless community in the Little Five Points neighborhood of Atlanta, Georgia, for three years. After his mission work ended, Michaelangelo spent the next two years working with non-denominational churches in the Metropolitan Atlanta area, specializing in Pastoral Counseling, and Music Ministry. In 2012, after a brief stint back in a parish setting, the Holy Spirit led him to start Metanoia Ministries. This church was established to serve everyone; gay, straight, trans, disenfranchised, seekers, those abused by other churches, and everyone in between. His mission continues to be to spread the Good News to all. To counsel as needed, to teach, to provide folks the tools they need to work through their salvation. Metanoia later transformed into what is now Agape Fellowship of Greater Atlanta. They are exploring what it means to be the church in our ever-evolving cultural landscape. Michaelangelo is an Elder/Priest in the Convergent Christian Communion, and Canon to their Presiding Bishop. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by David Oliver Kling and produced by The Community of Saint George, a Young Rite jurisdiction.

     Welcome to episode 79, in this episode I have the honor of interviewing Father Joseph Grieboski.  His bio is long, but I didn’t know what to cut out so want to share it all with you.  I think you will find his story fascinating.       Joseph K. Grieboski is a social entrepreneur whose innovative ideas have revolutionized thinking across a number of fields.       In 1999 – at the age of 24 – Grieboski founded THE INSTITUTE on Religion and Public Policy, a well-respected and world-renowned non-governmental organization at the forefront of religious freedom advocacy. Many years and several Nobel Peace Prize nominations later, Grieboski has become an internationally recognized expert in religious freedom, national security, counter-extremism, human rights, and conflict transformation. As a matter of fact, in a letter to Grieboski in 2005, His Majesty, King Mohammed VI, of Morocco referred to Grieboski’s work as the “foundation of a new civilization”.      His extensive travels to over 140 countries in every corner of the map have allowed Grieboski to meet, interact with, and befriend leaders of business and industry, government, entertainment, advocacy, and other arenas, giving him one of Washington’s best and most sought-after rolodexes.      From confidence-building programs in Darfur to post-conflict reconstruction in Kosovo, from track-three diplomacy efforts in North Korea and Iran to minority protection and reintegration in Iraq and Afghanistan, from authoring countless laws for numerous countries to securing the successful release of hostages and prisoners, Grieboski has been at the forefront of some of most crucial and sensitive issues in the world.      Grieboski is a Senior Fellow with The Dietrich Bonhoeffer Institute and was one of three finalists for United Nations Special Rapporteur on Freedom of Religion or Belief and nominee for United Nations Special Rapporteur on the human rights of migrants and Special Rapporteur on the promotion and protection of human rights and fundamental freedoms while countering terrorism, demonstrating global recognition of his expertise on international human rights and security issues. Chairman of the Board of International Center on Religion and Justice, he also serves as Chairman of the Board of International Campaign for the Rohingya; Member of the Board of Directors of Interfaith Alliance; Member of the Board of Trustees of the International Foundation for Tolerance; Member of the Board of Directors of The Working Group on Children Recruited by Terrorist and Violent Extremist Groups; Member of the Board of Advisors of Rumi Forum; Strategic US Advisor to the Directorate, Faith and Globalization Program, Durham University, United Kingdom; Secretary-General, Interparliamentary Conference on Human Rights and Religious Freedom; Member of the Board of Honor, Planète Citoyenne; Member of the Board of Advisors, Arakhan Rohingya Union; Member of the Board of Advisors, Military Religious Freedom Foundation; Member of the Board of Advisors, Anti-Predator Project; Member of the Expert Advisory Group on "Promoting and Protecting the Universal Right to Freedom of Religion or Belief through Law: Current Dilemmas and Lessons Learned”, International Development Law Organization.       The author of over 50 articles and two recognized publications with Palgrave Macmillan and Oakton, Grieboski served as a columnist for The Huffington Post and a foreign news editor and contributor for The Cutting Edge News. His book, Because I Believe: Inspiring Stories from People Who Are Changing the World, is due out in 2021.      Former Chair of the US State Department Strategic Dialogue with Civil Society Working Group on Religion and Foreign Policy Subgroup on International Development and Humanitarian Assistance under Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Grieboski has also worked inc lose partnership with the Foreign Office of the United Kingdom, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, the European Parliament, the Holy See, The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, The Daily Show with Trevor Noah, The Opposition with Jordan Klepper, and many other national and international entities. As a religious freedom, human rights, and international policy expert, Grieboski has testified before the United States Congress, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, the United Nations Human Rights Council, the European Parliament, and numerous other legislative and international bodies.       In April 2010 Grieboski was inducted into the International Board of Sponsors of the Martin Luther King Jr. International Chapel at Morehouse College – Martin Luther King’s alma mater. The award honors those who have made significant contributions to the civil and human rights nonviolence movement in the tradition of the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King.      Grieboski holds a Bachelor of Science in Foreign Service degree and a Master of Arts degree in National Security Studies, both from Georgetown University. He is completing a Master’s in Sacred Theology from Agape Seminary. In 2008, Grieboski received an honorary Doctorate of Humane Letters from Marywood University in Scranton, PA.       Ordained a priest in the Independent Old Catholic Church in April 2019, Grieboski lives in Alexandria, VA, with his wife, Tracy, and their dog, Eddie, and cats Theo, Charlie, and Bridgie.  Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by David Oliver Kling and produced by The Community of Saint George - a Young Rite jurisdiction.

Welcome to Episode 78! In this episode, I have the honor of speaking with Brian Ashmankas. Brian is a native of central Massachusetts.  He is a former politician and former Roman Catholic seminarian for the Diocese of Worcester.  He has two master’s degrees, one in political science and the other in theology.  He was dismissed from sponsorship by the Roman Catholic Diocese of Worcester in December 2019 after sharing with his bishop that he has a well-discerned call to be a married Catholic priest in Worcester.  He is currently an aspirant for ordination with the Good Shepherd Companions, an Ecumenical Catholic Ordinariate formed from the joining of the Ecumenical Catholic Diocese of America and the St. Barnabas Mission with roots in the Married Priests Now movement started by Emmanuel Milingo.  He is recently the founder and facilitator of the “Community of the Hyphenated.” This group meets weekly on Zoom to share and listen to each others’ spiritual insights and stories and aims at self-reflection, self-betterment, learning from others’ experiences, camaraderie, and ultimately social and ecclesiological transformation – building a new world and church in the shell of the old. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by David Oliver Kling and produced by The Community of Saint George - a Young Rite jurisdiction.

Welcome to Episode 77. In this episode, I, David Oliver Kling, will be talking about what is a chaplain?  I have been working as a full-time hospice chaplain since December of 2013 and prior to my work in hospice, I completed 4 units of Clinical Pastoral Education as a chaplain resident at St. Mary’s Medical Center in Huntington, West Virginia.  What is a Chaplain? Good advice for anyone interested in chaplaincy would be to suspend your sectarianism. Does being a Chaplain mean I'll have to do things I don't want to do? Chaplaincy brings up all of our personal issues and creates its own anxieties. Do Chaplains reject academic insight and knowledge?  A Chaplain is someone who reflects theologically and who uses their theological reflection to inform and empower their care for others. How does a Chaplain do an assessment?  Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by David Oliver Kling and is produced by the Community of Saint George (a Young Rite jurisdiction).

Welcome to Episode 76! In this episode, I have the honor of interviewing Deacon Karen Gordon.  Deacon Karen Gordon is a student for the priesthood in the United American Catholic Church.  She is a veteran of the US Navy having served from 1984 until 1989.  She has worked for the University of Tennessee at Memphis in the office of the Dean of Students, she has worked in public affairs at the United States Naval Academy in Annapolis. She has done an impressive amount of volunteer work and she holds an associate of arts from Anne Arundel Community College and a Bachelor of Arts from the University of Maryland in Interactive Electronic Publications.  She is currently a Master of Divinity student with Nations University.  I’m happy to have her on the podcast!  If you would like to be a guest on the podcast please reach out to me.  If you are involved in the Independent Sacramental Movement or if you have something to offer the movement, I want to hear from you.

Welcome to episode 75! In this episode, I welcome back Father Jerry Maynard.  Back in episode 73 I had Father Jerry on the podcast, and we were going to talk about something he is passionate about, but I changed the script on him, and we talked about a question presented on the Sacramental Whine Facebook group. I wanted to have Father Jerry back on so we could go over the topic he wanted to discuss with me about.  I gladly welcome Father Jerry Maynard back onto the podcast. Incidentally, if you are connected to the Independent Sacramental Movement or have something to say that would be of benefit to those within this movement please contact me about the possibility of you being a guest on the podcast. We talk a lot about Social Justice! Books of Interest: Creation Spirituality: Liberating Gifts for the Peoples of the Earth. The Tao of Thomas Aquinas; Fierce Wisdom for Hard Times. A Theology of Liberation. Where to find Fr. Jerry: His YouTube Channel. His Website. His Facebook page. His Twitter page. Medium page. Sponsor: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by David Oliver Kling and produced by The Community of Saint George - a Young Rite jurisdiction.        

Welcome to Episode 74! In this episode, I have the honor of interviewing Dr. Richard Paszkiewicz. Dr. J. Richard Paszkiewicz (in ecclesia The Most Venerable Sunyananda Dharmacarya) is a priest, psychotherapist, martial artist, healer, chef, writer, and academic. In addition to being ordained in the Independent Sacramental Movement, Dr. Paszkiewicz is a fully authorized Buddhist teacher, who has been given teaching authority in the Japanese, Korean, and Vietnamese Zen schools. He has studied and taught Buddhism throughout the world, lectured at numerous colleges and universities, and has appeared in and written for various media outlets, in addition to serving as an official delegate to numerous notable Buddhist events, including the first White House Buddhist Leader's Conference, and the United Nation's World Day of Vesak. Dr. Paszkiewicz is a registered yoga teacher with the Yoga Alliance, and has trained in the Bhakti Yoga tradition in West Bengal, India where he lived as a Brahmacari and personal assistant to a preeminent guru. Academically, Dr. Paszkiewicz has earned a host of degrees, and completed a clinical residency in pastoral counseling at the University of Kansas Hospital, and has subsequently earned dual board certification both as a Pastoral Counselor and as a Clinical Chaplain. Currently, in private practice as a counselor, consultant, and coach, Dr. Paszkiewicz has served as a chaplain in a variety of settings, from health care facilities to law enforcement agencies. He is the founding Convener of the Kaw River Valley Chapter of the College of Pastoral Supervision and Psychotherapy, where he also serves on the national Certification and Ethics committees. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by David Oliver Kling and produced by the Community of Saint George - a Young Rite jurisdiction.

Episode 73! In this episode, I am joined by the Rev. Jerry Maynard as we address a question proposed by Bryan Bombardier on the Sacramental Whine Facebook group.  Bryan posted: A thought from the cheap seats on the past few podcast episodes: "I have listened to the podcast for a while now and really appreciate the hard work. The past few episodes have created cognitive dissonance for me though. A major message that I heard was "the ISM is not doing a good job forming priests." Point taken. The answers presented to this problem lately have a major theme. They seem to wish to model the ISM after the Roman church. Seminary education, standardized educational competency, uniform preparation, homogeny of thought, etc. Of course, I understand this isn't the only intent but it is the overwhelming impression that I received. For a group that strives to create Vatican-free Catholicism, this seems like a very Vatican-like method. I was just thinking that forming priests as they did for the first 1500 years of the church isn't a bad idea either. Maybe focusing on bishops and their indiscretion with regard to handing out ordinations is more important than the standardization of the process. At the same time, this idea was definitely covered. It's probably a "both-and" kind of situation. Any thoughts? Again, easy to say from the peanut gallery..." Father Jerry and I discuss Bryan’s post with additional commentary by Subdeacon Tim Olivieri, Stephen Gallagher, and Swami Prakashananda Saraswati. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by David Oliver Kling and produced by the Community of Saint George - a Young Rite jurisdiction.

Welcome to Episode 72! In this episode, I have the honor of speaking with the Reverend James Ishmael Ford. The Reverend James Ishmael Ford has walked the​ spiritual path for more than fifty years. He's danced with Sufis, studied with Gnostics, lived in a Buddhist monastery and was ordained a Zen priest. Later he was also ordained as a Unitarian Universalist minister and preached from the high pulpits in old New England churches. He was a co-founder of the Boundless Way Zen network and was its first school abbot. Today he is guiding teacher of the Empty Moon Zen Sangha and leads the Anaheim Zen sangha hosted by the UU Church in Anaheim. James served as a UU parish minister for twenty-five years. He is minister-emeritus of the First Unitarian Church of Providence. Today he serves as a consulting minister with the Unitarian Universalist Church in Anaheim and is an adjunct professor at the University of the West.  In addition to his role as a Zen priest and Unitarian Universalist Minister James also holds ordinations within the independent sacramental movement as well as several initiations within Inayat Khan Universalist Sufism.  He has blogged as Monkey Mind for more than a decade and is the featured speaker at the Empty Moon Zen YouTube channel. Links:  Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by David Oliver Kling and is produced by The Community of Saint George - a Young Rite jurisdiction.

Welcome to Episode 71! In this episode, I take a moment to reflect on recent events in the United States surrounding the death of George Floyd and the Black Lives Matter movement.  Included are statements from three different ISM communities: Apostolic Catholic Church in America. Advocates of St. Sebastian. Reformed Catholic Church via LGBTQ Organizations Unite to Combat Racial Violence. The community of Saint George – A Young Rite jurisdiction. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by David Oliver Kling and produced by The Community of Saint George - A Young Rite jurisdiction.

Welcome to Episode 70! In this episode, I have the honor of welcoming back Bishop Gregory Godsey.  He is the first on the podcast back in episode 19 and I am glad he is back!  Gregory is the presiding bishop of the Old Catholic Churches International and the editor in chief of Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. In this episode, we talk about the "train-wrecks" within the Independent Sacramental Movement! Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by David Oliver Kling and is produced by The Community of Saint George (A Young Rite Jurisdiction).

Episode 69! In this episode, I have the honor of welcoming back to the podcast an old friend, Jason Spadafore.  I interviewed him back in episode 15 and I wanted to have him back to see what sorts of mischief we could come up with. Jason writes under the pen name “Agostino Taumaturgo.” He has been a student of Christian spirituality and esotericism for almost 30 years, specializing in theology and what he calls “Catholic Occultism.”  Jason now writes, teaches, and lectures on spirituality, magic, and manifestation within a Christian paradigm. I’m glad to have Bishop Jason back on the podcast! We talk about several things including the Roman Catholic Traditionalist Movement and Vatican II. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by David Oliver Kling and is produced by the Community of Saint George a Young Rite Jurisdiction.

Welcome to episode 68.  In this episode, I share the audio portion of a YouTube video I created on the Community of Saint George. Discussed is the origin of the Old Catholic Union and the Liberal Catholic Church, the Young Rite, and the founding of the Community of Saint George.  I don’t want this to seem like an infomercial for the Community of Saint George, but I think there is some good content that anyone interested in the Independent/United Sacramental Movement would enjoy.  I have built upon the original content of the video and turned it into a paper that I wrote in a class within my Doctor of Ministry program I am currently enrolled in.  So, before I get into the audio recording, I mentioned I’m going to share some additional content you cannot get from the video where I talk about ultramontanism and our rejection of this Roman Catholic ecclesiological movement. Links: Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. This podcast is hosted by David Oliver Kling and produced by The Community of Saint George (a Young Rite Jurisdiction).