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Lesley and Brad are back to recap their conversation with Dr. Shanté Cofield, The Movement Maestro. They share how showing up as yourself makes the hard days easier, why boundaries are non-negotiable, and how letting go of the “struggle equals success” myth frees you to enjoy the work you love. And because it's not all business, Lesley answers a listener's fun question about how she manages to look fresh after a long flight.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why authenticity makes showing up easier and attracts the right people.How boundaries set the tone and teach others to respect your priorities.The risks of building a brand that doesn't align with who you are.Why success doesn't require constant hustle or exhaustion.Lesley's favorite skincare and travel beauty tips for long haul flightsEpisode References/Links:Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tourCambodia Retreat Waitlist - https://lesleylogan.co/retreatsPilates Journal Expo - https://xxll.co/pilatesjournalContrology Pilates Conference in Poland - https://xxll.co/polandContrology Pilates Conference in Brussels - https://xxll.co/brusselsLesley's Skincare Recommendations - https://xxll.co/skincareSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsThe Movement Maestro - http://www.themovementmaestro.com If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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Will everyone connect with it? No, and that's a good thing. Lesley Logan 0:17  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:56  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the incredible, amazing, badass convo we have with the one and only, Shante Cofield. Brad Crowell 1:10  Shante.Lesley Logan 1:11  The Movement Maestro. Brad Crowell 1:12  Oh yeah. Lesley Logan 1:13  Oh my gosh. It was in our last episode. And if you haven't listened to that one, you've missed out on life. You really like you kind of fucked up. You got to go listen to it. You can listen after this, and you can listen and then like, usually like, depend on how you set your podcast situation up. It could be right after this. If you're listening to the OPC app, it's right below this one. If you're in your Apple app, good luck. They've changed it all the time. It's hard to find an episode you missed. Then that's why we do these recaps. But first, today, it is October 9th, it's Curious Events Day. Brad Crowell 1:42  Curious Events Day. Lesley Logan 1:44  I chose this because of Shante. So, the other ones seemed quite boring. There was World Post Day, and I was like, oh, that's so Shante, but it means like, mail, like. Brad Crowell 1:53  What do you mean male? Lesley Logan 1:54  Like, post mail, like mailing a letter, World Post Day. Not as not as in, like, social media post. Brad Crowell 2:00  I was definitely not thinking M-A-I-L. Lesley Logan 2:03  Yeah, mail. So I didn't choose that one, because that would be the opposite of Shante. But, Curious Events Day is October 9th, and it's a day to wonder about everything we've ever wondered about. So how do you get those little ships into the bottles? I think they do it like they're flat and they put it in. But you should, if you still wonder, you should look that up. Who figured out how to tie shoelaces? That is curious. What is the most recent sighting of Bigfoot in North America? I'm seriously doubting where the feedback might come from. I definitely do mean, pick your sources wisely. Why can't we figure what happened in Roswell? Be inquisitive, be persistent, and be careful, don't forget that old adage, curiosity killed the cat, and then the end is that satisfaction brought it back. But do be mindful. Brad Crowell 2:49  And then it's like, but I had nine lives, so you're good. Be curious. Lesley Logan 2:52  But also, like, do judge your news sources carefully. Brad Crowell 2:57  Oh my gosh. Please, please validate things. Lesley Logan 2:59  Please. Also, like. Brad Crowell 3:01  Anytime, anything seems like, oh yeah, that, that news makes sense. No, go, look it up. Lesley Logan 3:06  Also, don't just look at headlines or scan things. Read. Use your reading skills. Like, use them. It's very, very important. And it's, it's something that's like, I think what I like about world curious day or nationally curious day is, like, just it, it's a way to get off of social media and then go. Brad Crowell 3:28  Curious Events Day.Lesley Logan 3:29  Curious Events Day and go look up things, you know, maybe use a library, like, I don't know, be curious there, too. Anyways, so our Winter Tour is announced, y'all, it announced, well, a while back, and if you haven't bought your tickets yet, you could, it might be Slim Pickens. So go to opc.me/tour to see all the incredible cities. We are recording this before October 1st, so I actually have no idea where we're going yet. We are.Brad Crowell 3:55  We're still working all that out, but it but there's, you know, we got like 25 cities on the docket that we're trying to figure out. Lesley Logan 4:01  That's the goal. Brad Crowell 4:02  It's even bigger and better than we've ever done before. And it's only possible because you come to see the events, and see each other and hang and, you know, come meet us in in real life and we love it. Lesley Logan 4:15  It's kind of how all things work. Brad Crowell 4:15  And the dog, you know. Lesley Logan 4:15  If you like this podcast, you gotta leave a review, share it with a friend and listen. You gotta. If you, if you like our show, you gotta like, you got like, there's things you have more power than you realize. And if you don't attend an event, we don't go back. Brad Crowell 4:30  That's very key. Lesley Logan 4:31  Even if we like this city. So, opc.me/tour. Also, we're currently in Cambodia for our retreat. If you're not on the waitlist yet, you're gonna want to get on that, because in January, we're opening up the early bird special for the retreat, and only those on the waitlist get the early bird option. You don't have to get on the waitlist, but you get to pay full price. And that's that's just like we're spelling out for you.Brad Crowell 4:54  Just to put this out there, we've had a lot of people asking about October 2026. So, a lot of people, and there is only room for, you know, there's a limited amount of space we have.Lesley Logan 5:04  As much as we love you and we hate saying no.Brad Crowell 5:08  I would love to, you know, make sure everybody can join us. But, you know, there's a limited amount of space.Lesley Logan 5:15  Well, because, to be honest, like, we just like the smaller busses, because it means, like, we get to spend more time with you versus the bigger bus, and it's like not as much time with you. And also the bigger bus means less sites to see because the busses don't fit in certain places.Brad Crowell 5:27  Yeah, it is, you know, I mean, what we'll, look, we'll bring the bigger bus if we have the group for the bigger bus, but, yeah, we are limited on we can't go through the big temple.Lesley Logan 5:35  There's only so much room on the patio, so get your spot quickly by being on the waitlist.Brad Crowell 5:44  All right, and then we're excited. On October 19th, we're actually going to be going to Singapore. Oh, for the waitlist people go to lesleylogan.co/retreats plural lesleylogan.co/retreats. On October 19th, we're fired up to be coming to Singapore. This is a new thing for us. We were invited. It's a private event, but I just want to put that out there, you know, for you, if, if you want to host us coming through, just reach out, and we'll see how we can figure it out.Lesley Logan 6:10  Just ask. We actually just came back yesterday when we're recording this from U.K. and people were, I shared, like, oh, we're we actually are here because people asked. Like, it wasn't like we had a studio owner ask, and then we had another studio go, hey, how do I get that at my studio? And then we put the events together. And so, you know, we, we, sometimes we have to plan years in advance, like, this particular event was actually planned two years ago, but we can do that. And we, we actually are the kind of people that don't just show up on your door unannounced. We do need an invitation. And so we already talked about Winter Tour that's coming up in December. Then January is gonna be the Pilates Journal Expo. It's in Huntington Beach. If you go to xxll.co/pilatesjournal, you can get your tickets for that. I've got a world premiere of a workshop, which is really fun for me, because I just like having a space where you can ask whatever question you want about Pilates. Don't worry, there's some other nuggets around that, but, like, it's really a space for that.Brad Crowell 7:04  What was the URL again?Lesley Logan 7:07  xxll.co/pilatesjournalBrad Crowell 7:10  Yeah, we got a new URL shortener, y'all. xxll.co Lesley Logan 7:14  Yeah, because, you know, it's what they needed. Brad Crowell 7:15  We did that instead of a phone number. Lesley Logan 7:17  They still want the phone number. Brad Crowell 7:19  Yeah, the phone number is not gonna be. Lesley Logan 7:21  I still want it. We haven't looked at it. We haven't looked into if we can have a like, you know, 310 just be it.Brad Crowell 7:27  In March, we're gonna be.Lesley Logan 7:27  In Poland. We're gonna be in Poland again. I'm so excited to be back in Poland with Karen Frischmann. So it's, like, kind of amazing you get to learn from the two of us at the same time, which means a bigger bang for your buck, xxll.co/poland, anyone can go, by the way, just because, Karen and I speak in English, okay, that's how we teach. And then it's translated into Polish. But you can just come and then Karen and I will drag Brad, Brad through Europe, all the way over to Brussels, and we are going to be. Brad Crowell 8:00  I will not be complaining. Lesley Logan 8:01  At El's Studio in Brussels. Very, very excited about this. Brad Crowell 8:05  L-L-E Elle's. Lesley Logan 8:06  Oh, actually it's E-L-S.Brad Crowell 8:07  E-L-S apostrophe El's Studio.Lesley Logan 8:08  Yeah, I think it's El's with the apostrophe, because then it's else's. That's what I learned when there's an S, you just put the apostle on the other side. Anyways, you can go to xxll.co/brussels to grab your tickets for that. And in April, we can announce this right now. Brad Crowell 8:28  We can talk about that. I'm pretty sure we already did. Lesley Logan 8:31  So there's something, oh, we might have. We're going to be in London. There is a there is a POT in London. And what I'm doing in London is not yet to be announced, because I haven't signed my contract. So we're gonna be at the POT in London. We're doing something. Brad Crowell 8:45  We're gonna have a booth, and we're gonna be talking about flashcards. So, come hang out. If you've never been to a Pilates On Tour, it is a lot of fun. They're amazing events. They really do a great job with that. And we can't wait to be back in London, it's gonna be amazing.Brad Crowell 8:55  And you can buy day passes for that so. Brad Crowell 8:59  Cool. Love it. All right, before we get into this incredible interview with Shante, we actually had a question, and the question was from Pilates Physio.Lesley Logan 9:08  So there's two people sent in the same question within two weeks. And I like when you read these out loud. Just read them out loud. Read them both. Brad Crowell 9:16  Okay, so Pilates Physio said, how do you look this fresh flying UK to Australia, I always look dragged through the hedge backwards.Lesley Logan 9:26  Hedges backwards, Sorry. Brad Crowell 9:27  Hedges? Lesley Logan 9:28  Yeah, the hedges backwards, sorry. My nails are too long. I typed it up myself.Brad Crowell 9:32  Okay. And the next one is Pilates, Inhale Pilates asks, how the hell do you look so fresh and glowing after all of that flying that is so unfair. And let me tell you my secret. Lesley Logan 9:45  Oh, yeah, you want to tell your secret. So I love both these women, because one of them asked it after I did story, when we had just landed in the UK, and we were driving to (inaudible) and we landed in Edinburgh and we were driving into (inaudible) and then the other one asked it after I we landed, went through security, got through our Global Entry, and we were in the, like, baggage claim area, and I did it. And so it's really quite funny, because for the first one, I actually purposely didn't wear any makeup, and just did my brow stuff because we were flying overnight, and I knew I'd be trying to sleep, and it was like about 30 hours of travel, and you don't wanna have makeup. And for the second one, we had a whole day flight, and I was like, I gotta do stories. I gotta do this. I gotta have my makeup on. And I am so proud of how amazing my makeup survived the Edinburgh, Heathrow, Heathrow to L.A. I did I will say I looked pretty ragged by the time we did L.A. to Las Vegas. I was so tired I couldn't keep my eyes open. So it wasn't like I was dragging a hedge backwards.Brad Crowell 10:43  We both were (inaudible) out on the plane home, like we were, we were asleep before we left the ground. I don't remember taking off.Lesley Logan 10:48  Yeah, I think we just like, I fell asleep so hard. So I will say, I think it's really easy on social media to look at someone who like and go, oh, they look so great. And to be honest, like in that moment, I caught the right light, but I will. So here's what I told them both, really great skin care. You have to have a great skin care routine. You must be doing this all the time. There isn't any makeup hack you can do that can out do bad skin care. Like every makeup artist I've ever worked with, is like the first step to great makeup is the skincare. So fine. When you like, I love the one I use. We don't have a short link for it. We have, like, a long link for it. Brad Crowell 11:30  We can get a short link for it. It's the the tarantula.Lesley Logan 11:34  No, I don't, I don't have, I don't have a social I don't have an affiliate for that. I'll tell you what that is. But, yeah, it's in the sponsors page. Yeah, so, so we'll drop that in there. He'll give it to you in a second. So, great skincare. Must, must, must, must do. Second, if you are flying long, like U.K. to Australia or the U.S. to Europe, like anything, that's 12-hour flight and it's overnight, I highly recommend no makeup, because you are going to try and sleep. But I do believe in mascara and brow gel like and I really do believe in it. It has changed the life. And if you're like, oh, I over plucked my brows when I was younger, you gotta go you gotta follow Striiike. You gotta follow, Striiike is the Instagram account Kristie Streicher. She has a (inaudible) three i's, she will, she will teach you how to grow your brows out, you guys. She was a client of mine. I was a client with of hers. I have not seen her in years, and I'm so proud of what my brows are doing. But I hire because what happened like your eyebrows and your lashes, like frame your eyes, and it can make a tired eye look happier. So we don't have affiliates for Striiike, but go and just learn from them. They have tons of tutorials. Tarantulash is by Bakeup Beauty again, no affiliates. I can't make any money off this, but I'm obsessed. I buy two sticks of mascara every time I shop with them, because you can get the free shipping, The, so once you have a good brow, good mascara you like and great skincare, you can fly anywhere. You also have to drink water. You must drink water when you fly. You have to drink water when you fly. I did not, I do not sleep well on most flights, especially long ones. In fact, when Pilates Physio asked that question, I had not slept at all because the flight sucked so much. On the way home, I think I got a little bit of sleep so, so I would love that. Then, when you want to apply makeup, like I had makeup on the second one, when you want to apply makeup, you you do want to find a makeup line that is easier for you to use, so that it doesn't take too long, and second that through the day, it looks better. No affiliate for Westman Atelier, I have tried multiple times. But I actually love their free concierge program. You can get on a call with someone. They can pick your colors for you, and it is she, she's a great it's a clean beauty line that actually, as a day goes on, it kind of just like melts into your skin more. So it doesn't streak as the day goes on, it's almost like, it's not that it rubs off, but it just like kind of becomes your skin. So I like that. Brad Crowell 14:03  All right, I think I'm also just gonna interrupt you and say, I love all of these amazing things that you've been figuring out. So the skincare link is xxll.co/skincare. Lesley Logan 14:12  Okay, there you go. Brad Crowell 14:12  So xxll.co/skincare and you'll be able to see what Lesley has been using for skincare. I was also just going to jump in there and say, I don't know anybody else in the world who prioritizes their sleep the way that you do.Lesley Logan 14:29  I know I wish I could sleep on a plane, but I do prioritize it outside of planes. Brad Crowell 14:33  Yeah. And so, you know, when you're asking, like, what is it that you're doing? I think it is, you know, it is built on this foundation of consistent sleep. Lesley Logan 14:42  Yes. Well, I think all of it is, right, but I will say, like, great skincare, great sleep. Drink some water. You'd be surprised. And also just be a little nicer to yourself, like the fact that you think that you've, of course, I thought I looked like hell on the first one. You know what I mean. But like. You smile and you look like more awake. Find the sunshine. You'll look more awake like I think we are constantly thinking that we are supposed to look like supermodels all the time, and no one does, including supermodels. They look like shit actually, most of the time, when you see them outside, but they have a confidence to them that they're beautiful people. And you have to start liking yourself, and you have to start to know that you have so many beautiful features, highlight them and have a great day. Brad Crowell 15:23  Yeah. And have a great day. Look, if you have any questions, Lesley clearly would love to answer those questions, just text us back at 310-905-5534, or you can submit it at beitpod.com/questions, that's beitpod.com/questions.Lesley Logan 15:44  I also just love the ones.Brad Crowell 15:45  You can also leave your wins there, too, for our Friday episodes. Lesley Logan 15:49  And also, I think I just get excited when it's, like, a non Pilates question, because it's like, here is all the research I've done. I figured it out. This is the mascara, you know. Brad Crowell 15:57  I love it. Lesley Logan 15:58  All right, let's talk about Shante.Brad Crowell 16:00  All right. Stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 16:03  All right, welcome back. Let's talk about Shante Cofield. I just want to say I love Shante. She's amazing, and we actually do know her in real life. We had a chance to hang out with her a few times over the years. She's just fantastic. So, Shante has created this persona called The Movement Maestro.Brad Crowell 16:21  I don't think it's a persona. It's her. It's.Brad Crowell 16:25  It's a, yes, so it's a persona. Actually, that's the definition of it. All right, so Shante is known as The Movement Maestro, and she's actually a physical therapist by trade and an entrepreneur by choice. And she said that on the the interview, and I thought that's a great way to say that. A physical therapist by trade, entrepreneur by choice. She's based in Southern California, and she now focuses on online business coaching, specifically helping health and fitness pros run, build and grow profitable online personal brands. So loving that. And she primarily uses Instagram as their quote, unquote top of funnel for lead generation, and she's just super great at it. She's been doing it for a long time. And she's also the business partner. She's business partners with Jill Coleman for a group coaching program that they do together, that we would absolutely recommend. Of course, Jill was also our coach. If you remember, Jill's been on the pod, all the things, but what a fun conversation. I mean, also, I just wanted to say,Lesley Logan 17:22  Secretly, I just wanted to talk with her, so I brought her on the pod.Brad Crowell 17:25  Well, she, she says this thing that I think is really funny when she when she's agreeing with you, she says this, this, this.Lesley Logan 17:33  Oh, I felt like I had just a cheerleading session. I was, like. Brad Crowell 17:37  Amazing. Lesley Logan 17:37  I, anytime I'm like, doubtful of, like, the do I know what the fuck I'm talking about? I'm just listening to this episode and hear her like compliment the fuck out of me.Brad Crowell 17:46  What was one of the things that you loved that she said.Lesley Logan 17:51  I mean, aside from how amazing she made me feel about myself, so she said that one of the biggest gifts is showing up authentically, because that is what you actually give other people permission to do the same. So when you show up authentically, you invite other people to do this. And I couldn't believe, I couldn't agree more. I think, like when I get to come to a workshop, and people are nervous, and, you know, I'm even nervous because I'm like, oh my god, they paid all this money, they traveled all this way. I hope I don't disappoint them, like, because people might have a different idea of me on like, from online stuff. I don't know. You know what I mean. People tell a story about them, about somebody, and then you meet them, but I. Brad Crowell 18:36  Don't meet your heroes. Everyone always says, Lesley Logan 18:36  Yeah, well, because some of those people suck, not me and not Shante, but, I.Brad Crowell 18:39  I think if you're showing up authentically online when you met someone in person, then you know what you're gonna get. Lesley Logan 18:45  Of course. Brad Crowell 18:46  That's the goal. Lesley Logan 18:47  I but I will just say, like, I always make sure that even when I feel nervous, I have like, the more authentic I can be to myself, the more every one of these people in this room will drop the nerves, will, will will show up and will have a great time with us. So it's really, really fun for me, so I couldn't agree more, and it helps you get out of your own head, because sometimes we get in our own head about things, and it's like, if you are just being your authentic self, it's one, so much easier, and two other people will be the same, and you won't have to worry if people are being real or not about you. Shoot. We also talked about declaring boundaries and priorities and that you the when you say, like, this is what I do, or I'm putting myself first, you model this behavior for others. I mean, like, can she and I just go on a tour together and tell people to prioritize themselves first. I love this. It's so, so good for the people in your life, for the partners in your life, for the friends in your life, like, and I just, I'm just, like, obsessed with all those things, yeah.Brad Crowell 19:45  I mean, I love that. I think it's important. I think it's great. Lesley Logan 19:45  She also, this is very important. She said, anything but yourself is unsustainable. So, like, if you're trying to be other people, yeah, like, it's so unsustainable.Brad Crowell 19:58  That's why I was gonna chime in, one of the stories that she told was when we follow these people online, and then, and then they quit, and they're like, actually built this thing, and I don't like anything about it and all this stuff. And, you know, it's amazing, because you can build things with marketing. When you do marketing properly, it will build a thing. But you need to make sure you like the thing, you need to make sure you like the people that you're going to be talking with, you know, because otherwise it will be unfulfilling. And I think that if you are talking about something that you don't believe in, it's not sustainable. And that's where this authenticity comes in. When you talk about something you're passionate about, or you believe in, or you really, you know, are wanting to encourage others to tackle and change and do all the things. It comes through, it shines through, right? And also is it allows it for you, you can stand by your word, you know, so that I think that.Lesley Logan 20:53  I also think like it when you're consistent, people do see that, even if they're not buying your thing right away, like, and it doesn't mean you don't get to pivot or evolve. But I have noticed, like, people who keep changing this, oh, I'm doing this now, I'm doing this now. I'm doing this now, and they're so different. Oh, I'm back to this now. I'm like, are they okay? What are they doing? You know. So I do think that the way, if you are, if you are afraid to post on socials, or you're afraid to mark your market yourself, or put yourself out there. Just know that if you're putting your true self and what you believe in out there, it's gonna be so much easier to show up on a hard day, and people are gonna truly start to connect with that. Will everyone connect with it? No, and that's a good thing. You don't want everyone to connect with you. I promise you that. There are some crazy people out there. You don't want them to like your stuff, so be your authentic self, and it will repel them.Brad Crowell 21:45  Yes, yes, yeah, and not even in a negative way. It just they won't be attracted to it. So I really loved when she was talking about the societal lie that success requires struggle. And I found this really intriguing, because I I lived this, this story of, we've talked about this a little bit before, but the bootstrapping, the solopreneur, I gotta do it all myself. Why? Because I'm broke and I can't afford to whatever. And it became a story that I told myself. And then what happens is, it becomes your MO, it becomes your persona.Brad Crowell 22:19  Yeah, well, you tell a story, but also, but you feel like it has to be hard all the time. Brad Crowell 22:20  It has to be hard all the time. But it's not even, it's not even that it has to be hard all the time. That's not the story we initially tell ourselves, but it becomes a lived experience that we then adopt. Right? And so all of a sudden, you're like, like, because when you start to delegate, when you do have a team, and you start giving things over to the team, such as, I'm a teacher, I'm teaching 7000 hours a week, you know, all of a sudden you're not teaching that much anymore. But you've, you've adopted this. It's got to be challenging, or we're not moving forward approach, you suddenly feel like you're doing it wrong, or you're or like some something, something is wrong. You can't, you can't figure out what it is. But it's because we've built this on this foundation of it's got to be hard for it to be right. Lesley Logan 23:09  Well, all the I work with a lot of teachers like, Oh my god, but if I do it like that, then the clients aren't going to because they want to feel burn. It's like, do you want to teach like that? If you don't want to teach like that, stop teaching like that, because they like educate people on what it is. You're making it hard on yourself, and then it's not going to be fun to show up all the time, and you're not going to like it and that, you're like, oh, but it's, it's got to be hard. I it's got to be a struggle. And then I'll get to the other side. You got to do things you like and and there. And success does have obstacles, but it doesn't have to be like you're trudging through like quicksand.Brad Crowell 23:41  Yeah, I mean, you're, you're not here to be miserable every day and faking this thing, right? I think that I just really liked what she said about it. And she said, of course, work is hard, but when it but when it comes to what things that you enjoy doing and the people you enjoy being around, it can still be fun, even when you are working hard, but the but the high level effort doesn't have to be, like killing yourself to make it. Like the struggle, I think the we jokingly say the struggle is real. But also, you know, it doesn't always have to be a struggle every day. Lesley Logan 24:21  Correct. And also, like, I just posted about this today on Instagram, because multiple times during the two events we had people were like, you must be tired, and I was like, oh, I'm not tired. You know, I might be tired. I'll be tired tonight. I might even be a little bit tired tomorrow. But like, I'm not tired right now because I love what I'm doing. I didn't put anything up here that you could buy that would exhaust me.Brad Crowell 24:42  Yeah, well, I think this weird assumption with that, like, wow, you must be tired means you must be burned out, because what you do is so much, like, I cannot fathom how you're able to execute it all you know, and still have time for yourself.Lesley Logan 24:57  Yeah. Well, that goes back to what we said with Shante said earlier, I prioritize myself and I have boundaries. Big time, big time. And I recognize that, like people have kids and blah, blah, blah and all this stuff. I still think that, because she said, we are a mirror, and we, when we are ourselves, other people do the same. If you put yourself first, other people see this, and they too will do it. So we it's not like people will just assume, oh, I gotta not bother that person. You have to say, I can't do that right now. But like, if you are doing something you love, yes, it'd be hard days, but it doesn't have to be a struggle. Brad Crowell 25:27  Yeah. Well, look, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into the Be It Action Item that Shante left us, right after this. Brad Crowell 25:36  Alright, finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Shante Cofield. Lesley Logan 25:46  You go first. Brad Crowell 25:47  Okay. She said when starting out or starting something new, she advised, if someone chooses to believe in you, believe them. And I just loved this. I loved this because this concept of borrowing confidence. I've never thought of before, I never heard of before, but it's so real. Lesley Logan 26:04  This is so brilliant. Brad Crowell 26:04  Because what like, it's almost insulting if you don't believe the person, like, I believe in you. I believe that you can do the thing and you're like, you're right, you're wrong, I'm gonna fail. Right? It's like, you kind of are throwing it back in their face, right? But I also love this reframes this whole idea. When someone is like, I know you can do the thing. You can borrow that confidence from that. What a cool idea. She said, then advise. She said, afterwards, celebrate. Clap yourself. Clap for yourself, and go learn the thing, and then get in those reps. Choose to believe the evidence of your growing confidence, right? And I think when you're when you're, especially when you're starting something new, if you have a mentor or a friend who's like, really, really cheering for you, they're seeing something that you might not see in yourself in the moment, you know, but it doesn't mean you don't have it. So, yeah.Lesley Logan 26:55  Yeah, yeah, okay. It's like, she also just loves our anthem, being in this pod, because she said do it scared. Yep. She said, confidence is a byproduct. It's on the other side of action. So a byproduct of taking action is confidence. That's how you get confidence. Everyone's waiting for confidence. Take action. You gotta take the action to get the confidence, and waiting to feel better about it is a trap. One must still have to take action and show up in this way. So you've got to take the action, guys. And she also said, the confidence, the happiness, the understanding, the clarity that you are looking for, the guidance, the direction, the answers that you're looking for are on the other side of doing the thing. So do it scared and freaking. Say this episode and go back and listen to her tell you that, because it's I couldn't I was just like, yeah, this is why she's on the pod. Like, literally, to remind people so you be it till you see it. I'm obsessed with you Shante, you guys, they have their own podcast. I also know that since we interviewed them for this and I was like, what do you do right now, they were, you know, sharing like, (inaudible) they did a podcasting course.Brad Crowell 28:00  Oh, cool. The podcast is called Maestro On The Mic.Lesley Logan 28:03  Maestro On The Mic. And also, I love their weekly newsletters. I highly recommend. It's an email I actually do read every week. I really, really like it. And it's also I got her on the pod because I got one. And I said, I fucking love this one. Brad Crowell 28:14  Side note, she's a doctor. Lesley Logan 28:16  Yeah. All right, sorry, Dr. Shante, anyways, she is a doctor. She is a badass. I love her journey. I hope that you saw yourself in some of these things that she said. And Shante is gonna wanna know what your takeaways are, so definitely send her a DM what your favorite part was? Send it to the Be It Pod. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it. This is how we be it till we see it and until next time, Be it Till You See It.Brad Crowell 28:39  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 28:41  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. 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Dr. Shanté Cofield, better known as The Movement Maestro, unpack what it really takes to build a business and life that actually feels good. From letting go of roles that no longer serve you to embracing lifestyle design over burnout, she shares the truth about why authenticity is the only sustainable strategy. Whether you're navigating a career shift, battling imposter syndrome, or tired of trying to be someone you're not, this episode will remind you that being yourself isn't just allowed—it's necessary.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How the shift from PT to brand-builder was built on small steps.Why creating a lifestyle business is really about time and balance.How authenticity makes your work sustainable without constant struggle.Why confidence shows up only after you do the thing scared.How borrowing belief from mentors can carry you through doubt.Episode References/Links:The Movement Maestro - http://www.themovementmaestro.comDr. Shanté Cofield on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/themovementmaestroDr. Shanté Cofield on Threads - https://www.threads.com/@themovementmaestroJill Coleman Website - https://jillfit.comEp. 385 Danny-J Johnson & Jill Coleman - https://beitpod.com/ep385RockTape - https://www.rocktape.comGuest Bio:Dr. Shanté Cofield, widely known as The Movement Maestro, is a former physical therapist turned entrepreneur who has built a thriving career helping health and fitness professionals take their work online. She is the creator and host of Maestro on the Mic, a podcast with more than one million downloads, and the founder of The Movement Maestro LLC, a company dedicated to showing coaches and clinicians how to build authentic personal brands. Based in Southern California, Shanté is recognized for her vibrant teaching style, love of community, and unapologetic approach to living life on her own terms.With a background that blends over a decade in movement science and several years in online business strategy, she equips entrepreneurs to grow without losing sight of the lifestyle they want to create. Her work emphasizes sustainability over hustle, encouraging clients to pursue balance, authenticity, and freedom in their careers. 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:53  All right, Be It babe, get ready. This, this the word this comes up in this podcast so many times as a like, like, double tap, as a thumbs up, as like, high five as, I mean, if I could have done this in person, we would have been like, just high fiving each other the whole time. I am obsessed with this person, Shanté Cofield, the movement maestro, is our guest today, and someone who has impressed me from the moment I was introduced to her in so many freaking ways. And what I love is like I got to watch her on the outside looking in, and then I got to know her on the inside and still, just like we don't live in the same place. So just like watching from afar, and like being an Instagram friend, hopefully real life friend from afar, but then getting to talk to Shanté today and hear the journey that they've been on, the journey that they're still on, the way they make decisions. I'm so excited for you, because no matter if you run your own business, you work for someone, you are a human being, and you are going to hear so many things that it's going to help you be you, be more you. So much permission is going to be granted. And I hope this is an episode that you save and hit on replay, because I know I am, I know I can't even wait to listen to this again. And also, I hope that this allows you, if you don't know who Shanté is, I hope this helps you find them, follow them and and get more from them, because they will they have so much to teach. They're just inherent teachers. So Shanté Cofield, thank you so much in advance. You guys, here is the Be It Pod with Shanté Cofield, enjoy. Lesley Logan 2:23  All right, Be It babe. Get ready. This is gonna be amazing. I know that currently, Brad has no idea who I'm talking to, otherwise he'd be in this room. He'd be so jealous. He loves this person so much. So, Shanté Cofield, The Movement Maestro, here you are, finally.Shanté Cofield 2:39  Here I am. Thank you for having me on. Lesley Logan 2:40  Oh my god. Shanté Cofield 2:42  I'm excited. I'm actually legitimately excited to be on this positive podcast. I'm like, yeah, let's fucking do it. The energy. Lesley Logan 2:47  This is gonna be great. So here's the thing you guys, I met Shanté through Jill Coleman, who's been on the pod before. And one of the things that you might not well, you know this about yourself because it's what you teach people on but like, I see a recycling truck and I think of you.Shanté Cofield 3:01  As in knowable. And thank you for knowing it's a recycling truck, not the garbage truck. I don't like the garbage truck, it's a recycling truck.Lesley Logan 3:08  And so and then, you know, I was reading I was reading through your form and everything, and I was like, oh, she does have a bright green jeep. That's right, she does. So Shanté, if in case people don't know who you are, can you tell them who you are and what you rock at?Shanté Cofield 3:20  Yes, absolutely. Again, thank you for having me on and you, listening, thank you for being here. I, Shanté Cofield, I think more colloquially or now more commonly known as Maestro. I'm a physical therapist by trade, an entrepreneur by choice, and now I spend my days in Southern California, but try and make the monies I do online business coaching. So like Lesley had said, Jill Coleman is my business partner for one of the projects that we group coaching program that run together, but I help health and fitness pros run, build, grow, profitable. It's an important word there online personal brands. That is my niche, that is my zone of genius, largely using Instagram as their initial kind of top of funnel. Lesley Logan 4:00  Yeah. I mean, I think it's, I love that you had, like, by trade, and then by choice. I think a lot of people get stuck on the by trade, and they kind of don't choose.Shanté Cofield 4:09  Yeah, I'm like, go and do other things.Lesley Logan 4:12  How long ago did you do that, though? And, like, was it the scariest thing? Shanté Cofield 4:16  Totally. So I graduated from PT school in 2010 I did it for eight years, and during that time, kind of on the back end of that, I started working for a company called Rock Tape. So if any of you have seen any colorful tape that the athletes wear, Carrie Walsh really put, like kinesiology tape on the map. I started working for one of those companies, and I was a lead instructor, and I that's when I really found that I love teaching, and I literally traveled the world teaching for them. So, you know, growing up, I wanted to have a job that I could go on planes and I could stay in hotels. Why? I don't know. I don't know why I wanted that, but I did. And then I became a physical therapist, and I was like, well, that's not gonna really allow for that. And then I got that job, and I found myself traveling and teaching across the world, and I concurrently was building my personal brand. Kind of inadvertently building it, not even kind of, 100% inadvertently building a personal brand, as the Movement Maestro on Instagram, because I was like, I have stuff to say, and this is fun, and I'll connect with people. So I did. I practiced for eight years, and just towards the end of it, I was practicing less, and I was teaching more, very much, knowing that I would step back from from treating because I didn't really love it, but it's safe and it's a great first career, but you can't really, in my opinion, teach just from theory, like you have to be practicing still. And I was like, I don't even enjoy this. I don't really want to be doing this anymore. And so the pivot came in 2020 so I was doing things behind the scenes, kind of the online business stuff behind the scenes. I met Jill in 2019 and we linked up. But 2020, I was like, I am done with PT stuff. I'm done talking about it, coaching it, teaching it, working in that field. And then Covid was like, Okay, here you go. And the pivot was actually very easy, because I couldn't travel anymore. I (inaudible) online, and I just brought all of the kind of coaching business stuff that people have been asking me for, just about that front facing. Then stopped with the, the PT stuff. Lesley Logan 6:04  It's funny. Like, I think, you know, obviously 2020, was terrible for so many reasons, and, and also, like, you can't have bad without good. Like, that's a balance. And so, like, if you take advantage of of the the opportunity that it was there, which is like, oh, I can't like the the playground has said that this is the box. And if I, so, how can I be creative in that box? And we also met Jill in 2019 and then, because of a 30-minute talk she did, we like, did her notes, and then I like DM-ed her like, two months, and I was like, just so you know, thanks for what you did in someone else's thing. We did it, and we made $20,000. She's like, who are you? You know, but like, because of how things change, it really did a lend itself for people who wanted to make a big pivot. And I love that you took advantage of that. Shanté Cofield 6:54  100%. Lesley Logan 6:55  I think, like, people who hear that, though, when people work online, they think, oh, my God, you get to work for yourself. It's like the dream life. We're just all printing money. It's like the coffee shop, you guys. Shanté Cofield 7:05  Yes, printing money.Lesley Logan 7:08  You know, I think it's also easy for people to make a switch and then overwork themselves on something that I am so attracted to about you is that you don't do that. Shanté Cofield 7:16  No, I am 100% of the lifestyle business mindset. And mind you, lifestyle business doesn't mean like being a pauper. It's just like, what's the lifestyle that you want? And if you want some extravagant, you know, lifestyle, then you're gonna have to work and earn, you know, commensurate with that. But for me, it is the reason I do what I do and make any money, is so that I can live in the way that I want, you know, and I want to have a lot of time to do the stuff I want to do on a play guitar. I go to the beach a ton. Jill and I are really good balance in that way, because Jill loves the work. She loves it. She loves being in it. She loves the strategy. And I'm like, I'm going to go to the beach now. I'm going to go and play volleyball. I'm going to go downstairs and lift. I have a gym that we put in in the house. So it's like, yes, I have to make enough money that allows for that lifestyle, but the reason that I do things in my first choice will always be, I'm going to go out and live and do the fun activities or stay home and do the activities, as opposed to being like, work, work, work.Lesley Logan 8:12  So is that easy for you? Like, is that how you've always been? Like is it hard for people around you?Shanté Cofield 8:18  I think that it is, there's a definitely, I love you asked this question because I think it's super important when we're listening to people speak, and we're looking to take lessons from them and advice from them that we also realize where they are in life, like I'm 40, right? So it's not that if I would not be saying this if I was 20, right? So when I was 20, I was in I was in college, and then I immediately after that, I was in grad school, and then I was living in New York City, working a lot like, still very much, being like, I want this. I want to be able to do things on my own time. But knew that I couldn't. I was like, I have to work and I'm have no money, and I live in New York City. But that was definitely always the goal, whether I realized it or not, was this time, flexibility and being in control of my own time. So it is easy for me to do that now, and it's all that I want to do now, and I can actually afford to do that. And I'm able to do that because I'm not 20 I'm not 25 like I do think that there is a time in life when, like, you grind, right? The analogy I like to use is surfing, right? If I don't, first of all, I live by the ocean. I don't go in the water, but I understand it, right? Lesley Logan 9:22  I love you so much because I love the ocean. But I don't go usually I'm like, I don't like anything touching me that I can't see. Shanté Cofield 9:30  I could. I will look at it. I don't need to be up in the ocean. But I watch all the surfers there, and it's like, if you want to ride the wave, if you want to coast, you have to paddle out. You don't just end up out there on the wave and like, oh, look at me. Like, you have to, first of all, I don't watch people surfing like, this is like, so much work, and they're not going, like, under the waves, and that things are hitting them and the board is going backwards. There's a lot of work that gets put up, that gets done, gets front loaded, and then you're like, all right, cool. I can ride this wave and sit here. I can pick which wave I ride, but that's after all the work comes. So no, no, it's not a hard thing for me to decide to do now or live into now. But also, like, I'm 40, I'm not 25.Lesley Logan 10:10  I actually, that's so funny. You know, you have the idea people think that, like, people are served are just like, easy going, like they're just like, actually, like, they're the most organized, hard working folks I've ever met, because they're like, they know when the waves are going to be great. They work there. They schedule everything around that. They work really hard. Like, I went to a yoga teacher who was like, so zen, so chill. He taught at 5 am then he was out riding the waves, and he taught again at 9 am he would like.Shanté Cofield 10:37  This, absolutely, absolutely.Lesley Logan 10:40  But I want to see them, like, hanging loose, or what a hanging 10, and they're like, oh, but they have they're chill. It's like, actually. So that's such a beautiful analogy. I think it's really fun. I always tell people like, when I'm doing interviews, like, why I'm 42 because I think, like, you do have to say, like, it. I can say this and I can work my schedule really does my work schedule really is only nine to four, because when I was 30, this was six to seven.Shanté Cofield 11:06  (inaudible) like, I need you to understand that folks that like that is how it works. Like, in general, I love that you typed into that with with surfers. And one thing I think about with that is that form allows for flow right where, like, yeah, he has a schedule and he has, like, this times, and like, yes, we are dictated by, like, what weather is doing, right? And that allows for me to be able to, like, go with the flow, because I had these things, whether that's like in a time, like a looking across a timeline that I did these things first, or I'm looking at within my day, and it's like, okay, I structured this, this and this, so that I can just be chill, going with the flow, if you will, during these other times. Absolutely. Lesley Logan 11:41  Yeah, but is it? Is it easy for the people around you? Because I know, like, I like, I have learned this is when I'm creative. This is when I can actually do the best coaching. If I miss this opportunity, we're not even posting because it doesn't, it's not even gonna work for me. Like, I just, you know, I love about and, like, there are other people like, oh, you're like, like, I feel like you're you're so cold. Like, I'm not cold. 6am to 9am is my time. You cannot be in my time.Shanté Cofield 12:04  No, no one has had an issue. I mean, my partner, Lex, she does online business. She gets it. She's known me for a long time too, so she knows how I am. And I think that exactly what you just said one of the best things, and we've talked about this a little bit before we got on the call, like this, like this idea of authenticity, that can be kind of overused as a word, but one of the biggest gifts of like, actually showing up authentically, is that you give other people permission to do the same, right? Not that they need it, but like they are looking for it. And so when you show up and you're like, Yeah, this is what I do. This is the time I take. This is how, like, when I'm going to be doing this, I'm putting myself first. I'm scheduling this first. You give other people the permission to do that. And people like that. They're like, oh, if maybe, maybe they have some initial pushback, but that's because they're like, oh shit, you just held up a mirror. And now I have to look at myself and be like, Am I doing that? I could do that. What's stopping me from doing that? So I've had no pushback with it at all. You know, I've I say this whenever I go on podcasts or talk about things like so much of everything I credit to my mom, and just like how she raised me and I, she's always supported me. There was never a like, but what about or none of that. It was just like, okay, you have soccer. I'm taking you. You want to do this? Okay. Like, there was never anything but support. So I've never, I've never been in an environment. I never thought to be in an environment or been okay in an environment where someone's like, pushing back on just how I am, I'd be like, why? What is this about? Lesley Logan 13:27  What a cool mom. What a cool, like, evolved, healthy. Shanté Cofield 13:33  Super fortunate. Lesley Logan 13:34  Yeah, yes. And also let, like, it allows for you to be you, and then again, be that mirror for other people. So okay, it's called Be It Till You See It because I don't like the way fake it till you make it sounds. And I have always been someone who, like, is like, okay, I don't know how to be the person who runs a business by herself. So what if I had to know? And like, what would I do if I had to know? So that's kind of how I've always run things out. And so one of the things that, like, you know, I followed you for years, and I love about you, like, I find, and I'm sure this is like, literally, what you deal with is, like, so many people are afraid to put themselves out there as either themselves or the person that they would like people to see them as, and you teach that. And also, like, you know, in the last recent shit show we've all been in, I've watched you continue to show up authentically, and so I guess I want to know, like, are there tips for being it till you see it online? Shanté Cofield 14:26  Yeah, yeah. This is why I'm really excited to come on this podcast, because it is something that I've learned, that this is what I do and teach. I didn't go into online space or anything with that be like, this is what I'm gonna help people with. But, you know, Movement and Instagram and online business, it's all just been a vehicle to help people live into themselves and create their best lives. And I didn't realize that that was a difficult thing for people. And I don't see that as like, oh, it's so easy. It was just like, that's not the world that I was in in any way. And so when you start talking about you're like, oh, this is something that's difficult for you, for many reasons. Society is designed so that this is difficult for you, like, and then seeing that be like, okay, let me see what I can do, or what I've been doing, and kind of like, put a process to it, if you will, to try and help people. I think that the most, the simplest, easiest thing, the action item, is do it scared. Like, there's no other way around it. I think that we like to kind of, like, cerebralize things and be like, I'm gonna try and dissect it. And why am I like this? And why do I do something that's helpful and fine, but like, you still have to then do it. There's no that. There's no like, I'm gonna think my way out of this or into this. It's like, I still have to take the action and show up in this way. So if we're waiting to, like, feel better about it, we know that this confidence is a byproduct, right? It's on the other side of action. So there's a line that I give people that I tell people, I'm like, do it scared, right? Yes, there can be action items of, like, accountability, or you're like, I'm working with somebody and like, I just have to show up, I have to post. I've given myself timeframes and constraints so that, because we know deadlines are magic. But the to me, the big take home is there, do it scared. You're probably, it's probably going to feel uncomfortable, it's probably going to feel far and it's probably not going to feel good. You're probably going to be like, having all these thoughts, do it anyway, because the feeling you're searching for, the confidence, all of that, it's on the other side of the action.Lesley Logan 16:17  Yeah, oh yeah. It's really true. Like people so we have, since I last saw you, like, we actually have, like, streamlined so many things. And because of all the coaching I've done for 10 plus years, and because the world made me put everything out in blogs back in the day and videos, we were able to train an actual bot to be me, right? And it's great. It's fabulous. She, she has the best grammar that I never had. I'm like, wow, I love that the internet's helping with the commas. Like, it's so great. But somebody asked my bot, like, you know, a question where, like, you know, confidence came up, and my bot said a very true story about how I had, you know, like, I do these things scared. I'm not always confident with what I'm doing and the person's like, you're not always confident. You seem so confident. And it's so funny, because, like, I think people are so good at seeing what they want to see in other people you know that right there, because they don't see they don't see, oh, she's doing that scared. They see, they only see it as, like, she's confident. And it's really, like, I tell everyone, I do everything, like, as if the roller coaster is like, at the tip and I'm screaming down the other side and hoping I'm just gonna go with the flow of it all, because you get confident from doing the thing you said you're gonna do. Shanté Cofield 17:32  It's on the other side of it. I think, you know, there's also a lot to be said from drawing from data, right? Like, I'm a physical therapist by trade. That's science through and through. It's how my brain works. I want logic. I want reason. I want things to be rational. There's so much to be said to actually generating evidence and generating data first and then then the second part, which is hard for people, is believing it like there's always this discussion around imposter syndrome. There's a lot of, you know, routes we can take and how it's like, societally imposed, and all these other things. And I'm like, for me, part of the rational side of it is, I'm like, maybe you're just not that good yet. If you just started, why would you be good at this thing? So you feeling like, I'm not good enough. It's like, you're right. Clap for yourself. You're right. You're not that good yet. And then we go and we learn the things and we get the rest. And then this is where I see the switch doesn't flip. You have to choose to believe that evidence, because I'll have people that like do the things and I'm like, you've been doing this shit for five years. You're still not confident, like, you have to choose to believe it then. Day one, no, you're not good. Objectively, you're not like, it's okay. Year five. You are better. You have to look at all of this data that you have generated, and then you have to choose to believe it, and then act from that. Can you still and will you still be scared or have feelings about certain things? Yes, but it's typically the new things that you haven't done. Moving forward, you have this new foundation. You have stepping stones that you've literally laid in place yourself, and you have to choose to believe the structural integrity of these things.Lesley Logan 19:01  I I'm obsessed with that (inaudible) and I'll okay, Seth Godin, like, probably this is a decade ago, I was listening to podcasts when I couldn't afford coaching. I was like, these people are my coach. And Seth Godin was like, being asked about imposter syndrome, and he said, if you're new at something, you are, in fact, an imposter. And he's just right, so just feel those feelings, and then take the steps to not be that way. And I was like, and he also said, and then also take it as a sign that you're probably not a narcissist as well. So when you, yeah, because you care. So we can remove now that we've, like, established you're not a crazy ego narcissist and you are new. Allow yourself to be new, but then go do the thing. And I so I have had some people, some teachers, at my house, and they graduate from my mentorship program, and they were here at the house for retreat, and when I was like, oh, I can't do this exercise. I can't do this exercise. And I was like, okay, well, let's just see what you can do. So they do it, and they come right up, and I'm like, so you just did it. Shanté Cofield 19:59  So you can, actually, objectively. Lesley Logan 20:02  Yeah and I'm like, you need to believe in you more than I believe in you. Like, yes, I'm a teacher. Right?Shanté Cofield 20:09  That, that is huge, Lesley, that is huge. And I think that one of the things that I will talk to people about, or say to people as they're on this journey, is borrowing confidence, right? And so when we're starting out and we're new with something, one of the best gifts you can give yourself is if someone chooses to believe in you believe them. And so I think about, you know, you had asked, what the podcast, and I love, by the way, how organized your shit is. But one of the things I was asking, in that little, little pre podcast thing, and I was thinking of like, you know, instances, and for me, it was starting with Rock Tape and starting to teach with them. I did reach out, because I was like, I can do this because I was five years into my career already. It wasn't like day one. I was like, I can get people better. Like, I could do this. I could learn and, like, learn how to teach this. But like, I have a solid foundation. I'm good at what I do. But going into this, one of the women, one of the head woman, Allison, Allison Evans, who is my self-pointed mentor. We still talk like nearly every day. She believed in me, and she really believed that I could do this and could teach and like she put me on stages and helped me, and I was like, I'm going to choose to believe her. And that confidence, I did have to borrow it like I had my own coming in, but any that I needed, I would borrow from her and then use that moving forward, so that one of the best gifts that you can give yourself, if you are foundering, faltering a little bit having unsure about things, if someone chooses to believe in you, believe them. Lesley Logan 21:34  Ah, I want to put that on replay. Everyone's gonna rewind that. I wanna put that on replay because, like, I it's so true, years it was probably like 20 this was like 2018 and I had and I had, I had been traveling a bit to I was being hired to teach in different countries, and I was always so shocked. I'm like, oh my god, they found me. This is like, you guys, this is 2014-15. I wasn't really doing it on Instagram. They were finding me through like YouTube and then word of mouth. So then it's like 2018, a girlfriend of mine wanted to host this big event. And she was like, she was picking all of her friends to, like, do it, because we believed in her, right? But so I believed in her that she could do this event. And I found myself on a stage, my husband was actually micing me up. There's 85 people in this class, and I was like, Is this mic on? He goes, No. And I was like, I think I'm a little bit nervous. Like, I think there's a mistake here, right? Like, and he goes, why? And I was like, well, I just don't know, like, 85 people. I've never taught 85 people. And I'm looking at this front row, and there's like, famous teachers in the front row and brand new people in the front row, and I'm having just, like, a little having a little moment, a little imposter moment. And he goes, how is this different than anything you've already done? And it was like, I needed to go back and borrow that comment and also be reminded you've actually done this. It's just more people.Shanté Cofield 22:46  That that that you're human, the reminders, the other people, the people that are believing you, that people are giving them around, like, take all of this. Take all of it. Yes, yes. Yes times a million. Lesley Logan 22:57  Yeah, yeah. Um, okay. So you, you have, you went from, I mean, like, I love Rock Tape, thank God for Rock Tape. But between that, Pilates saved my knees and my hips from all my running career. So very appreciative. And then you got into what people would say is, like, a huge pivot, like, I don't know that many people would like the trend of like, oh, you go your physical therapist, and you're a Rock Tape expert, and then you teach people how to be on Instagram. Shanté Cofield 23:27  Yeah, right. Lesley Logan 23:28  So you had the teacher confidence in you from the teaching you've done, but and you had the confidence in what you've put out and what you grew on your own. But what was the be it till you see it? How did you like, how did you set yourself up to, like, coach people on something completely different than what you went to college studying all that?Shanté Cofield 23:45  Totally, totally. I love the phrase that it's be it till you see it, because you're not actually faking it, right? So to me that my, one of my whole sticks is safety and having a safety net. And so from the outside, people will think you've taken massive leaps. And then if they're like, behind the scenes, or if they actually were with you the whole time, they realize, like, there's these little steps that you just, like, didn't fucking stop them. So everything led to the next thing you know, being able to be on social media and being able to teach in person and give presentations came from the fact that I did it for a zillion years, right? Growing up, going through high school, going through college, and then, PT school, you did a million presentations, so like, going and doing more of them. I'm like, this is the same it's actually not an issue at all. Being able to speak to people and connect with people. That's from being a physical therapist like, that's literally all you do all day long, right? This skill set just carries over to the next thing, coaching, things. I've been in sports my whole life. I've been coaching my whole life. So then going into the online business realm, it wasn't so much of a pivot, because I was doing PT. All I did was I took all my PT stuff and I started putting it on Instagram. Because I was like, I started using Instagram simply because I was like, I would like to connect with other people. I didn't do it to this is 2014 right? I didn't do it to start a brand. I didn't do it because, like, no one was really doing it, to be completely honest, in terms of, like, the PT world there was like, (inaudible) was doing it, Perry Nicholson was doing it. But it wasn't like a big thing to see, like, PTs and Kairos just like.Lesley Logan 25:05  Yeah. I know it's hard for people to believe, but there was a window where social media was just social.Shanté Cofield 25:10  Yeah, right, like, here's my breakfast. There was no. Lesley Logan 25:14  I know. Here's a sunrise. I look at the sunrise. I did just look at this tree. Shanté Cofield 25:18  On my high tone filter here. Like it was not, it was like, not a thing. So I was like, okay, I see people doing it. I just want to connect with people and like, I'm, mind you, I'm five years into my career by now. Like, I was like, I can literally just take what I've been doing during the day. Videos was only 15 seconds long. Like, first iPhone didn't even have, like, a camera, I mean, a video on it. Like it was just like, this is very different way of doing things a different time. So I'm taking my PT stuff, I'm putting that on social media. I grow a following behind that, thinking I wanted to work with CrossFitters, but who followed me was other PTs. And I see why, like, looking back, I'm like, the language I was using, how I was showing up. So then I start teaching them things. I'm running courses. So, like, I'm able to run my own courses, because I worked for Rock Tape, at that point, four years. And so I knew how to run a course. I knew how much I would need to charge in order to, like, turn a profit on this. I had connections all around. I launched my personal course in Australia and New Zealand because I had connections from Rock Tape so it wasn't like, how could you launch a course abroad? I'm like, because I've already done literally 500 like, right? It's not a big thing. So from the outside, maybe it looks like that. From the inside, it's like, it's just the next step. As I'm running all these courses, and anytime I would go and they would, I would be specifically asked to teach a course. I by the by the, like, year three of this, I already knew if that facility asked for me specifically, I already knew that owner was going to be like, hey, can we go out to dinner? And then they were going to ask me business stuff. And they were like, going, they were like, gonna be like, I wanna leave. I wanna do something else. So getting asked all these questions, starting to work with those people, but it was just behind the scenes. People didn't know I'm doing it, but I'm like, I've been doing this for years. So then 2019 comes. I start bringing more of it front facing. Jill and I host a live event. That was my first live event with, like, online business. And I was like, okay, this is new, but I'm borrowing confidence from Jill. Jill believes in me. Cool. I'm going to just stay in my lane with this stuff and teach this stuff and go into that even, because I've been doing it like behind the scenes, but not so front facing. And then 2020 I literally just took all the stuff that I was doing behind the scenes and brought it front facing, right so that, and largely what I was doing initially in 2020 was teaching people how teaching people how to bring their presence online. It wasn't so much of the true like launch strategy and things like that that I learned a ton from Jill and then also going through that subsequently. But I started out with what I knew and what I've been helping with people with already. So the pivot felt like a lot like looked like a lot from the outside, but behind the scenes, it was literally like, okay, it's just the next stepping stone, and taking all that I've done with me and using it for the next step. Lesley Logan 27:46  I am so obsessed with the way that you like, talked about what people see on the outside, and then the baby steps behind the scenes, because I do think that they go, oh, you know, Lesley does this, and she does this, and she does this, and so I'm gonna go do these things. And it's like, okay, behind the scenes, there are 20 people who do the million steps. There are, like, from the time I end this call with you, I don't touch this again until a recap episode, and it goes through all the things that does all this stuff. And then I don't, I just hear it on the places you listen to podcasts too. Like, yeah, because, because behind the scenes, you're not, no one's posting. That's boring. No one actually wants to know how many baby steps are back there. But I also want to highlight that you like, you took what you were being asked a lot, and the experiences you were having, and you were utilizing that. And I think where a lot of people, they try to create it from the end point from, like, where this like, oh, here's Shanté on the stage. So I'm going to do what Shanté is doing on the stage, and then what am I going to talk about? What if you, you know, you got to go back behind the scenes, and like you mentioned earlier, where it's like, I didn't know people had a hard time doing this thing that came so easy to me. And I think, like for anyone listening, if you're wondering what you might be doing, whatever you think is easy, someone else, a lot of other people, think is so hard. They think it's so hard.Shanté Cofield 29:02  That, you're like, oh, I had no idea. Oh, I think that that gets at kind of like, one thing we haven't discussed is, like the societal implications, right? Like, how society and patriarchy and supremacy culture play into all of this, and we are fed this lie that success requires struggle, right, there's a difference. Success requires hard work, but not struggle. So if you go back to this, the surfer analogy, this would be like, you don't know how to swim. You hate the water. There's sharks in there. And people think like, that's how you have to do it in order to be able to like surf. And I'm like, you should maybe stay on land and, like, play volleyball, like, don't do something else, don't even like swimming. Like, what are you? Why do we think we have to be the struggle and such? Yes, there is hard work, but it is with things that you enjoy doing, with people you enjoy being around. And then it doesn't feel like this, like, God, I'm like, pulling teeth, and it's the worst thing ever. I truly believe that humans, left to their own devices, they will create, they will work hard, they will do so much. People are not inherently lazy. We all know, anyone that's listening to this, you have any if you've ever created something of anything, and you're like, I like this thing. You will stay up all night, you'll miss meals, you'll skip these things. I just want to finish this thing like that, it's in us, but we fed this lie that we have to struggle and we have to suffer and it has to be the worst thing ever. It doesn't have to be yes, it's a lot of work. Yes, we should probably expand our timelines for things, right? We'd have timelines in terms of minutes and I'm like, make it years and you'll never fail. Yeah, right now it's minutes and you're like, I didn't do it yet. But if you are finding things, leaning into these things and like, Hey, I'm naturally good at it. That's a good thing. But we're kind of taught, oh, you're naturally good at it. It's easy. That means that you're lazy, or that if you're if you're going to do that, that means that, like, you're taking the easy route, and that's bad. And it's like, no, do the things that you like, do the things that come easily, that that is great. That's what we're going for, not this life of like I hate the things I have to go to, where I have to do this, I have to struggle and suffer for it to be worthwhile. No, no, absolutely not. Lesley Logan 31:06  No. And I think there's, I love the distinction of hard work versus struggle. And you mentioned that, like, like, the the interesting thing, I don't know, intriguing, the crazy thing about the society that we are in currently, it is, like, before I before I before I go on this with you, my team is like, hey, which of these podcasts do you want us to pitch you to? I was like, looking and I'm like, you guys, anything that is just looks like an alpha male, like you can just say no. Like, you don't, you don't have to ask me. I don't care if it's a point 1% podcast. I don't care if I'm the first expert ever. They want to talk about Pilates and how it's good for them. Like, I'm gonna tell you right now, like, I cannot handle that vibe, and I don't need to. I can work hard and not struggle, and that would be a struggle, right? So, like, you know, I I like, no. And I think what a lot of people have done online is like, oh, that's popular. What this dickhead over here is doing is doing is popular, and using the red and the orange, and, like, claiming out, I'm gonna eat only steak and so I'm gonna go that way, you know. And like, people have forgotten to, like, be themselves and be different.Shanté Cofield 32:11  This, this, this, this, this times a million times a million. We're looking at sustainability as well, right? Like, sustainability and longevity, because that's what the play should be, being anything but yourself is unsustainable, yeah? Like, it may bring it might bring you flash in the pan, success. It might it absolutely, you might be able to trend track something and ride that wave for a short term. You might. But we also see, we've seen it publicly in social media, where people are like, I have to stop doing social media. I built this thing. I hate it. I have this massive audience. It's fake. I don't like it. And it's like, yeah. And I'm also thinking about, we're just seeing the end product of that right, where they're just like, I'm so unhappy. I have to, like, stop this person's been living like that for however long. Like, that's not, life is short, man, we're not here to be miserable every day and baking this thing like, I love that you're not this fake it till you make it. I'm like, people be faking it till they die, you know. Like, that's not.Lesley Logan 33:13  It's not it. It's really not so. And talk about like imposters, and you'll never feel that way. I'll so Martha Stewart is not one of my favorite people in the world, although she's a badass and like, let's just give her that. And also, she hasn't been to prison. That was a, just, just a woman doing something a man does, and they're gonna put her in prison. Yeah, so if they want to imprison them on it, then fine, I'm okay with it. But if we're not doing that anyways, different argument. But she had her version of The Apprentice. Like, when I was like, you know, I don't know, maybe was in college or in high school, and I remember someone said, well, we gotta fake it till you make it. And Martha said, We never fake anything around here. And I was like, I mean, come on, Martha, you fake a little bit, right? Like, like, I had this thing. Like, I just remember, and I remember that going, like, really, you don't fake anything. And then as I got older, and I started, like, evaluate I was doing, I was like, I'm not faking anything. This is me. But like, acting like if I had the if I knew how that worked, or if I wasn't scared. So it's just, you know, when we think of what actors do, we don't call them faking it when they're on white lotus, they are acting like this weird character. You know, it gives me nightmares. Yeah? So it's just like, you get to act like the person who would have the confidence you act like the person, who is doing the hard work but not struggling, that helps you make decisions that you can filter through until you are you realize one day you woke up and you are that person. That's who you are, because that's who you always were.Shanté Cofield 34:32  That, that last part though. Lesley, I think that's really huge, because that's who you always were. There's something to be said, if you really sit and dissect this, like, be it till you see it, it's not faking it because, like, it is you, like, maybe you don't know this thing, but it's still you, it's still you choosing to do this. It's still you having the confidence to do this thing. You're not lying to saying to someone and being like, I'm a surgeon, like, that is different. That's completely different, but it is you. But there is no fake to this, like, whether or not it's just the nuance and the verbage there is that you don't have the like, the confidence that you believe someone who's like been this way for a long time has, but it's still you, still in it. Lesley Logan 35:17  Speaking of still you, you've always been the person that I like look to when it's like, okay, what's going on with Instagram? Like, what's going on this thing? Lesley, just get out of your fucking way and do, just do a just do the thing. Like, I'm just like, such a reluctant Instagrammer, because I've done so well with the YouTubes and the other things and so to me, like, I'm just kind of like, I don't, I always hop on trends. Like, I'm like, I'm just like, here's, I'm too busy actually. So here's here's here's a picture of me and my assistant, and I'll get back to you next week, because I got a lot to do, but something that like you I I've been watching you, and you're so good, and you are so creative, and you're always so consistent. And also, after the election, you, to me, I think on the outsider's perspective, people might have thought you were pivoting. You were being you in my, because, maybe because I know you behind the scenes a bit, but like, it didn't seem like a pivot. It seemed like you just got, like, turning the volume up on you. How did is that what you felt like you were doing? Do you feel like you were like, do you did you have pushback when people say you've changed?Shanté Cofield 36:19  There was no, this is a great question. There was no overt pushback. There was obviously, like, losing of followers, right? So there's like a silence pushback, if you will. But I, flip side of that is I didn't have anyone that was like, stay in your lane or stick to politics. Like no one said anything to me. They were just like, okay, I'm gonna show myself the door. And I'm like, that's cool. I also will say, I don't look at numbers. I hate looking at numbers. I hate when people are like so in the numbers, because I also believe that, especially on Instagram, a lot of numbers are fake, not even like people buying followers. I'm like in you think that 60,000 people like this is Instagram with fake money, right? Using house money and rewarding certain behavior and being like, hey, we like what you're doing. We're going to give you followers, don't like what you're doing, we're going to take them away. Like, the metrics that I want people looking at, if we're going to talk Instagram, is going to be your actual interaction. How many comments are you getting, and are they real? Like, are you talking to people? How many DMs? How many conversations are you having? That's the stuff that I care about. And while I lost quote, unquote followers, or I should say, well, I lost quote, unquote followers, that's what I want to be quoting there, my engagement and my DMs did not go down. I got more comments on the post that I've been doing since the election. So I'm like, I'm good actually, and I think that my audience this is I've been showing up this way long enough of just like this is me, and what topic am I speaking about? Right? My whole shtick has been, build, create, live your best life, and we're doing it with authenticity, because otherwise it's not sustainable. It's not your best life. It's some caricatures, you know, best life. And I've just used vehicles right, across the years. It's been vehicles, it's been physical therapy, it's been Movement, it's been Instagram, it's been online business. And now I, you know, I'm just speaking to certain points that are just like this, just, like this, just, we're just talking about life now, there's nothing in in between to like, create metaphors for you. We're just talking about life. I'm just asking you to look at the things that you're doing on the day to day, and the things that are happening around us and the implications of that, and speaking to that. So, you know, it hasn't been difficult in the sense of showing up that way, but it has been difficult for me to have the desire to put out what I consider to be trivial things. I understand it can be helpful for certain people, but like, that's not where I'm at. I also have, like, this kind of, like internal clock that, like, kind of resets every five years when I'm like, okay, something new. So PT was five years, and then the last three I was teaching and shifting away from treating, and then 2020 hit, and I'm, you know, doing all online business. I'm like, it's 2025 my clock is like, yeah, next step. What? What else is there? Lesley Logan 38:51  I love that you have that awareness of yourself. I felt like I have a seven year clock. And I only learned that, like in the like, last year, I was like, kind of felt like, like, I felt like I was claustrophobic in my own clothes, you know. And, you know, here's the thing, like, again, behind the scenes, no one can see what we're having to do to pivot businesses, you know. And it takes time and what I just love that you mentioned, like, it's hard to post about trivial things, or things that feel trivial to me. It has, I will be honest, like, in the ever since, like, the last year, of like, oh, fuck, this is where we're headed. I'm like, does it really? Do you really need a fucking tip on that? Because there's a YouTube video like, I I'm trying to figure that. I'm trying to figure out, how do I, like, how do I as female business owner who coaches female business owners whose clients are coming in and telling them stupid shit about the economy, who's making them doubt that they should raise their rates, even though their rent went up, their utilities went up. Like, the cost to have employees went up. Like, yeah, you have to raise your rates, because that's the only way you stay in business. It's you are not a charity. You are a. Business. If you want to be a charity, go file for that. You know, I am so I I appreciate that, because I had, I found like, you know, not just like, what has gone on with politics, but like, in the last month, we had something happen in our family, and I'm like, I just, I have these brands who want me to post something I I'm sorry, like, I'm gonna fail you right now, what I love is like, you're such, you are human, and you give so many people permission to be that. And I didn't even post a ton. Mostly was all my stories. I was like, if you follow me, like, you're gonna get the real me. And then the stories is where it is. And I people, you know, I just really liked it when you didn't talk about politics. And I said, I'm so sorry. I'm a female business owner that is political. Like, like, I might have privileges of a white person, but like, I'm still a female business owner who literally only gets people to answer things if I, I have my husband on calls for things. Like, I have a I have, like, here it's your job.Shanté Cofield 40:51  People are people, audacity. I wish that the people we coach and people listening to this have the audacity of that person. It comes into your DMs and is like, here's how you should run your account. I wish we all had that audacity. Lesley Logan 41:04  Yes, yes. Oh, my God. Shanté Cofield 41:06  Where did that come from? Lesley Logan 41:07  Yes, we need to find these people. Like, teach them audacity because it's what, that's the word, it is. And like, I just said, I said, oh, you know, this is my account. Like, so I I said, I was just like, this is my account. And like, I think rights are, are actually, like, just real and human rights. But if you don't like hearing about that, you don't have to follow me here. You can just go for free and go on YouTube. In fact, they'll make sure whatever ads you get the ones you wanted. And you can, you can actually just search for the content that you want from me, and if you want to pay for it. In my membership group, we don't talk about politics, but just remember, everything is.Shanté Cofield 41:43  Exactly. Everything is political, and people see that. I'm like, you're just saying that it hasn't affected you. I'm like, but it is. It hasn't affected you in a negative way. I'm like, it's just affecting you, but positively or neutrally, like. So it hasn't been hard to switch to speak about that it's been hard to like, you said, the behind the scenes, business side of things. Like, I run, my number one program that I run is an Instagram intensive, and I haven't run it this year because I'm just like, what do I want to do with this thing? Like, how do I want this thing to look? How do I do I want to do this? Am I wanting to encourage people to go and spend their time with this? Is this company that doesn't give shits of value? Like, there's a lot of thinking around the the intentionality piece. And I'm fortunate in a fortunate place that I like have, I have the savings to be able to, like, chill out, and I have other programs going on, and I already have clients that I can be been working with one on one, so I can hold off on that thing. But that, that has been the only difficulty, but.Lesley Logan 42:38  I thank you for sure, because I think, like when everything went down, I had people in my group going, I don't, I don't want to post on these platforms, because I don't want to give them anything. And I was like, okay, first of all, I agree. Like, I like, just know that, like, thank you. And also, what I will always coach you on is you have to be where they your people are. So where are your people? Because if they are there, then if you're not there, then some dude on rib-eye steak for three meals a day is gonna sell to them. Like they're gonna, they're gonna buy the solution to their problem. So then it's kind of like, how do we play in the field, you know, like, how do we do it? And so that's always been a game. It's always been the game like, how do we play in this, like, the sandbox that gets them out of that sandbox and over into the sandbox we want to play in.Shanté Cofield 43:25  Absolutely, the intentionality and taking a moment and, like, again, bang, bang. Having time is a luxury, right? Time is to me, like, it circles back to being a conversation of, like, what ultimately I wanted, and having this lifestyle business. It's the translation of that is having time flexibility and having time ownership, right? Where I have the time to sit and Covid, we saw the importance of time during Covid. We call it the great pause, because it gave people a moment to be like, wait, what do I want? How do I want to do things? Do I believe in this? Do I agree with this? When we're living in a world that's so fast paced, and you just have to, like, you're just trying to eat, you're just trying to, like, get through the day, you don't have the luxury, you don't the ability to sit and think and be like, so intentional with things, right? It's all by design, right? I can sound like a tin hat. I don't care. It's all by design. I'm in a place where I have the luxury to sit and be like, okay, I want to be intentional in community, super intentional with my business and how I'm showing up and how I'm helping people. What does that look like? Like I totally agree, there's a huge (inaudible) and when it comes to social media, because it's like, yes, these businesses and supporting them, and you're like, But the flip side is, how do I support my people? And if it's like, I have to stay with this nonsense and in this sandbox so that I can reach these people, because that's where they're at, I'm going to do that. And yes, I'm going to have to move them somewhere else and do other things and show up with my values and encourage them to do the same. But you know, this is taking a beat, taking a moment to really fit and identify that, and not just being like, knee jerk, like, I'm done with it all. And like, yeah, I'm burning it all down. It's like, if that's what you want to do, fine, but I'm looking at what's the outcome of that. Why am I doing that? And if my goal is to be able to help people and like, let me take a moment and figure out what feels best and how I want to do that. Lesley Logan 45:01  Yeah, I could talk to you forever, Shanté, I'm just obsessed. And really, we need to have a hang next time you're here, next time I'm there, we're gonna take a brief break and then find out how people can find you, follow you, work with you. Shanté Cofield 45:12  Sounds good. Lesley Logan 45:13  All right, Shanté, where do you hang out? And we said Instagram. But also, like, give them all the deets. Where can they stalk you in a good way?Shanté Cofield 45:19  Yeah, the deets, I try to keep everything consistent, is just type in The Movement Maestro anywhere, and it'll come up, and then you can do whatever you want with it. My website, movementmaestro.com, Instagram, The Movement Maestro. I'm on threads as The Movement Maestro, and that's the easiest, the easiest thing, if you want to chat, I'm in my DMs. I haven't been posting as much as I usually do, but I will answer a DM in two seconds. I don't like email, so go to my website and email me, but I probably won't get back to you. Someone from my team may get back, maybe. Maybe I'll have Rupert, my cat, get back, but (inaudible).Lesley Logan 45:51  Oh, I will tell you how I got out of my inbox, and I'm loving it. Now I have to, actually, my sister's like you do have to go and respond to the five that I couldn't do. I was like, okay, alright, I'll get there. All right. You have truly given us so much, but you know, we, it would, wouldn't be Be It Till You See It Podcast without the bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it? What do you have for us?Shanté Cofield 46:11  We're going to circle back, because repetition is key. Once is never, and I'm going to say what I said before. Just do it scared, right? The confidence, the happiness, the understanding, the clarity that you are looking for, the guidance, the direction, the answers that you're looking for are on the other side of doing the thing. So, do it scared.Lesley Logan 46:27  Yeah, yeah. We firmly believe in that. We cosign on that. And once you do it scared, make sure you let The Movement Maestro know and let Be It Pod know because then we can celebrate you. Because guess what? Celebration is how habits are created. That's how the dopamine hits the brain. It's all science people, all right, loves. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 46:45  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 47:28  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 47:33  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 47:37  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 47:44  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 47:48  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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In this episode, you'll hear a powerful conversation between Jill Coleman and FBA student Veronika Vasko. Veronika shares her story—where she started, the challenges she faced building her online fitness business, and how she's grown with the tools and support inside FBA. As you listen, you'll recognize familiar doubts, breakthroughs, and the exact steps she took to begin attracting clients with confidence. If you've ever wondered what it's really like to build a business from scratch or whether FBA could help you do the same, this episode gives you a front-row seat to that transformation and offers the inspiration to take your next step.   Join FBA now! jillfitprograms.com/fba-2025   Connect with Veronika! https://www.instagram.com/veronikavaskoyoga/   Jill is a fitness professional and business coach who effectively made the transition from training clients in person and having no time to build anything else to training clients online and actually being more successful. Today, Jill helps other coaches to do the same.   Connect with me! Instagram: @jillfit | @fitbizu Facebook: @jillfit Website: jillfit.com

Training, coaching, and teaching are all very different skillsets that you'll have to learn as you run your online fitness business. In this episode, Jill emphasizes the importance of understanding these differences if you're looking to enhance your business models. Online coaching focuses on behavior change and transformation, while virtual training is more about providing workout plans and accountability, and teaching is the least customized of the three but requires communication and broadcasting skills. Even if you don't have the most experience with any of these skillsets, the good news is that each one of them is something you can learn and perfect through time and repetition.   Get on the waitlist for FBA: https://jillfitfree.com/fba-waitlist/   Jill is a fitness professional and business coach who effectively made the transition from training clients in person and having no time to build anything else to training clients online and actually being more successful. Today, Jill helps other coaches to do the same.   Connect with me! Instagram: @jillfit | @fitbizu Facebook: @jillfit Website: jillfit.com         fitness business, online coaching, virtual training, teaching skills, coaching skills, fitness industry, business accelerator, Jill Coleman, FitBizU, coaching vs training

Ever wonder what it takes to scale a 7-figure empire, even through unexpected global shifts and the daily ups and downs of business? If so, this is something you'll want to listen closely to! Today, I'm joined by my friend Jill Coleman, aka “JillFit”, as we have an amazing conversation on all things business, mindset, masterminds and more.  In this episode, Jill shares how she navigated significant changes in the world and online space, the mindset she has adopted as she continues to grow her business, and even a transformative principle she uses to guide the decisions she makes.  If you're ready to start building your legacy business then this is your blueprint, and because Jill reveals so many valuable insights in this one, we just might have to have her back on the show for a Part Two! If you feel moved by this episode, or are lit up and feel connected to what I share today, I want to hear from you! You can send a DM or tag us on Instagram, @katetaylorstylist and @jillfit, or contact us through our podcast website at www.thekatetaylorpodcast.com. We would also be so happy if you left us a review with your thoughts on Apple Podcasts. Are you looking for more style in your life but you aren't sure how to do it yourself? Stop letting those stories in your head dictate your power! It's time for you to believe and invest in you because you are worth it and deserving of it. Right now I have a few available spots to work with new personal styling clients, and I want to help YOU. How wonderful would it feel if you had more confidence in your image?  I am going to support you in getting that confidence and the power that comes with it!  Creating your custom image is all about having the right tools to start letting your outer wardrobe reflect your true style, personality, and achievements that you have worked so hard for. To get started now, visit https://katetaylorstylist.com/work-with-me! Have you heard of Stylist Society? It is the exclusive membership for fashion stylists that are looking for more support and community, at a really attainable level. It's a month-to-month membership where you get new resources and a live group call that is a topic-based teaching every single month - click here to sign up now!  Did you happen to hear about our secret podcast, a 3-part series on how to generate $4k in revenue -  in less than 30 days? Yes, you read that right, so if you're looking to generate cash quickly and gain momentum in your business, this series is for you! In it we'll be covering everything from the marketing and attracting the right clients to closing the sale. We're selling this secret podcast for just $125, and to get exclusive access and the episodes automatically downloaded to your favorite podcast player, CLICK HERE! But hurry, the secret podcast will only be available to purchase for a limited time, and once you purchase you'll be sent a special access code for you to listen!   If you've been looking for an affordable way to stay in the KTI world, look no further. You can become a member of KTI Stylist Society right now and gain access to monthly trainings, guides, tips and tricks, and a couple surprises. Click here to learn more. For all things podcast and to get the freebies and downloads, go to www.thekatetaylorpodcast.com and don't forget to subscribe to this podcast to get all the up-to-date info and the latest episodes!   

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 3558: Jill Coleman shares seven transformative insights on creating a life of happiness, personal freedom, and sustainable productivity by shifting mindset, releasing perfectionism, and trusting yourself more. These reflections encourage a deeper sense of self-awareness and help you let go of external validation in favor of internal peace. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2012/05/07/7-insights-happiness-personal-freedom-productivity/ Quotes to ponder: "I used to think that if I could just do everything perfectly, I would be happy. But I've learned that perfectionism is the enemy of happiness." "Discipline is not about restriction. It's about freedom." "When you start trusting yourself, things get really quiet and peaceful inside." Episode references: The Four Agreements: https://www.amazon.com/Four-Agreements-Practical-Personal-Freedom/dp/1878424319 The Gifts of Imperfection: https://www.amazon.com/Gifts-Imperfection-Think-Supposed-Embrace/dp/159285849X Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 3558: Jill Coleman shares seven transformative insights on creating a life of happiness, personal freedom, and sustainable productivity by shifting mindset, releasing perfectionism, and trusting yourself more. These reflections encourage a deeper sense of self-awareness and help you let go of external validation in favor of internal peace. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2012/05/07/7-insights-happiness-personal-freedom-productivity/ Quotes to ponder: "I used to think that if I could just do everything perfectly, I would be happy. But I've learned that perfectionism is the enemy of happiness." "Discipline is not about restriction. It's about freedom." "When you start trusting yourself, things get really quiet and peaceful inside." Episode references: The Four Agreements: https://www.amazon.com/Four-Agreements-Practical-Personal-Freedom/dp/1878424319 The Gifts of Imperfection: https://www.amazon.com/Gifts-Imperfection-Think-Supposed-Embrace/dp/159285849X Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 3558: Jill Coleman shares seven transformative insights on creating a life of happiness, personal freedom, and sustainable productivity by shifting mindset, releasing perfectionism, and trusting yourself more. These reflections encourage a deeper sense of self-awareness and help you let go of external validation in favor of internal peace. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2012/05/07/7-insights-happiness-personal-freedom-productivity/ Quotes to ponder: "I used to think that if I could just do everything perfectly, I would be happy. But I've learned that perfectionism is the enemy of happiness." "Discipline is not about restriction. It's about freedom." "When you start trusting yourself, things get really quiet and peaceful inside." Episode references: The Four Agreements: https://www.amazon.com/Four-Agreements-Practical-Personal-Freedom/dp/1878424319 The Gifts of Imperfection: https://www.amazon.com/Gifts-Imperfection-Think-Supposed-Embrace/dp/159285849X Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Launching can feel like a rollercoaster of emotions, but it's one of the best ways to make money in your business, so if you want to be successful online, you're going to have to learn to manage those feelings and just keep going. In this episode, Jill Coleman highlights the importance of expectation management, understanding the launch process, and maintaining a positive mindset throughout your launches. Launching is hard, but it's important to get resourceful and scrappy when facing challenges, and to always reflect on your performance post-launch to improve how you launch again in the future.   Get on the waitlist for FBA: https://jillfitfree.com/fba-waitlist/   Jill is a fitness professional and business coach who effectively made the transition from training clients in person and having no time to build anything else to training clients online and actually being more successful. Today, Jill helps other coaches to do the same.   Connect with me! Instagram: @jillfit | @fitbizu Facebook: @jillfit Website: jillfit.com

          Jill Coleman started out as a daily fitness and nutrition blog back in 2010, while still working as a full-time personal trainer and group fitness instructor working 70+ hours a week. Armed with an ACSM personal training certification and a Masters degree in Nutrition, Jill also slowly began to take on 1:1 fat loss coaching clients. Fast forward 18 months and JillFit too grew to a 6-figure online fitness brand with 5 fat loss coaches and over 100 virtual clients! Over the next few years, Jill developed her own nutrition philosophy, #Moderation365 to automate consistent and healthy eating habits. Since then JillFit has helped over 10,000 women do the same using this method and now certifies coaches in the method. After investing in her very first business coach in 2012, Jill quit all her in-person training and moved fully online. Followers and other professionals began asking her how I she was doing what she was doing, and as a result, Jill started sharing business tips, tools and strategies, which led to her launched her first business mentorship, Best of You Business. Since then, JillFit has grossed over 6M in revenue and has helped thousands of health, fitness and nutrition professionals start and grow their online businesses.   Links: https://jillfit.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jillfit Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JillFit/ Twitter/X: https://x.com/jillfit YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/linmull

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 2440: Jill Coleman emphasizes the empowering idea that we teach others how to treat us. By taking responsibility for our role in relationships, we can actively set boundaries, verbalize our needs, and foster healthier interactions. This shift away from a victim mindset liberates us to design our relationships and life with intention. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2012/06/22/teach-people-treat/ Quotes to ponder: "If someone is not treating you the way you want them to, it's your fault." "What is not out of our control is our attitude." "You realize you literally get to create your relationships exactly the way you want." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What you'll hear:Episode 112, where I outline how I chose my word of the year this year 1:30My word of the year:  EVOLVE and some ways that will show up for meReminder to patrons of the Coven tier and higher, one of your rewards is a hand-penned calligraphy of your word of the year, so keep an eye out for a message from me via Patreon in the next couple of days 2:52My #1 priority moving forward in 2025 3:26An intentional shift in my perspective moving forward for artists and creators to frame which opportunities we choose to pursue 6:30Accessible questions you can ask yourself and refer to when trying to decide if an opportunity is a good fit 11:42Am I able to ask questions and get answers on safe working conditions?What our responsibility is FIRSTDo I feel respected when I engage with this organization and/or these individuals? 14:25Feeling respected and cared for is a somatic experience.  Here's an exercise on how to know what that feels like in YOUR body 15:39My example for this comes from 2024's invitation to speak at BossUp at the invitation of the greats: Dr. Shante Cofiled of The Movement Maestro and Jill Coleman of JillFitUpdated contract recommendations from my friend and alumni who inspired this episode 18:00"Surely your father could have traded down a few ducats for an ounce of virility?" from Dangerous Beauty 21:00NYD rituals from the south 22:45What you can expect from the podcast in 2025  23:15Creatrix applications will open to patrons on the Patreon at 9am on January 4thAny remaining spots will go to the public waitlist on January 8th at 9amDon't go back to sleep.xoRachelSign up here for monthly blasts and functional wooFind me on InstagramSupport this podcast on Patreon

In this episode, Jill gets real about the very necessary mindset shift you have to make when it comes to selling. Sometimes, coaches feel a little icky about selling. Doubtful thoughts still come to mind from time to time, making fitness professionals wonder if what they're doing really matters and whether or not people are getting something from their content. In this episode, Jill shares an important message, explaining that even if you don't know about it, someone is having their life changed because of your work.   “If you don't believe in what you're selling, who else is going to? The most important person to sell on your offer is you.” – Jill Coleman   Get on the Interest List for FBA: https://jillfitfree.com/fba-waitlist/   Jill is a fitness professional and business coach who effectively made the transition from training clients in person and having no time to build anything else to training clients online and actually being more successful. Today, Jill helps other coaches to do the same.    You May Also Like Fit Biz U: Pep Talk: Who Said It Was Going to Be Easy? Fit Biz U: 3 Ways to Bust through a Business Plateau   Connect with me! Instagram: @jillfit | @fitbizu Facebook: @jillfit Website: jillfit.com

It's really easy to compare your journey with someone else's. It's sort of inevitable to keep comparing numbers, followers on social media, results, etc. However, what most people don't think about is that everyone started a business from scratch and everyone thought it was really hard at the beginning too. In this episode, Jill debriefs the 6 key steps for starting an online biz from the very beginning.   “I always try to remind my clients that they're not supposed to know how to do this.” – Jill Coleman   Get on the Interest List for FBA: https://jillfitfree.com/fba-waitlist/   Jill is a fitness professional and business coach who effectively made the transition from training clients in person and having no time to build anything else to training clients online and actually being more successful. Today, Jill helps other coaches to do the same.    You May Also Like   Fit Biz U: Adopting a Business Mantra Fit Biz U: Being the Best to Build Your Business   Connect with me!   Instagram: @jillfit | @fitbizu Facebook: @jillfit Website: jillfit.com

Hey, y'all! Today, I'm thrilled to introduce Jill Coleman, who's got this amazing blend of grit, know-how, and a to-the-point approach to helping people level up their online businesses. Jill's not just a fitness and nutrition coach, she's all about teaching us how to make real, strategic moves so that we're not just working harder, but working smarter. We chat about the power of taking action, why niching down is key, and how to sell without that 'greasy' feel. Trust me, there's a lot to get out of this one!Highlights: (5:12) Working smarter, not harder(14:45) The role of action in business growth(23:51) The importance of ‘energy management'(37:11) Selling without feeling ‘greasy'(45:02) The three levels of online businessConnect with Jill:WebsiteFitness Business Accelerator (FBA) Interest List Instagram :@JillFitFacebookTikTok and also X :JillFitQualia Mind - click hereCoupon Code: SHOCKANDYALL (15% off any purchase)Visit Nicole's on demand fitness platform for live weekly classes and a recorded library of yoga, strength training, guided audio meditations and mobility (Kinstretch) classes, as well: https://www.sweatandstillness.comGrab Nicole's bestselling children's book and enter your email for A FREE GIFT: https://www.yolkedbook.comFind Nicole on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/nicolesciacca/Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thenicolesciaccaFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/nicolesciaccayoga/Youtube:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1X8PPWCQa2werd4unex1eAPractice yoga with Nicole in person in Santa Monica, CA at Aviator Nation Ride. Get the App to book in: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aviator-nation-ride/id1610561929Book a discovery call or virtual assessment with Nicole here: https://www.calendly.com/nicolesciaccaThis Podcast is Proudly Produced by Wavemakers AudioMentioned in this episode:www.Neurohacker.com/shockandyall and use the code SHOCKANDYALL to get 15% off your first order

If you've been tuning into the podcast recently, you've been hearing the stories of incredible 7-figure CEOs that are part of our Performance Mastermind, and today you get to meet another phenomenal Digital CEO from the group, Jill Coleman.  In this episode, Jill shares her 14-year journey from a humble blogger to a thriving business owner, and you'll learn how she built a loyal following, scaled her coaching business, and navigated the ever-changing digital landscape, especially since joining the mastermind in early 2021.  Jill has had to overcome some big hurdles and mindset blocks to make quantum leaps in her business, and she reveals how she did it using grit, self-trust and consistency, along with the help of a dedicated team to work alongside her each day.  Some of these lessons may seem subtle and nuanced to most people, but they are everything at this level and this conversation with Jill is absolutely jam-packed with the essential ingredients that make up a formula for success!  For the past 8 years, I've had the privilege and honor to host an intimate 12-month mastermind experience for emerging leaders and online experts in our industry, called the Performance Mastermind, and many of those members are individuals you know and follow today. As you also know, true and real masterminds are the most effective and powerful containers for creating explosive growth in your business and your life! I'll stand by this claim that the Performance Mastermind is the best mastermind for 7-figure online experts in the entire industry, and this is the one time of year that I recruit new members. So, if you are approaching or you're already at that 7-figure a year mark in your business and you're looking for a catalyst, a community and a quantum leap, then I invite you to apply. Simply visit www.jameswedmore.com/performance to get all the details. Hurry though as the Performance Mastermind is limited to just 30 seats every year and I only have a few spots open!  Snap a screenshot of the episode playing on your device, post it to your Instagram Stories and tag us, @jameswedmore, @jeunejenni and @jillfit. We'd love to hear what resonated with you the most!  In this episode you'll hear: What the catalyst was for Jill to start blogging on the Internet 14 years ago  How the landscape of her industry has changed since then and her thoughts on the idea that the online coaching space is “oversaturated”  What led Jill to join the Performance Mastermind and how attending her first live event helped overcome something she had been resisting  The changes she made after becoming a member that allowed her to scale her business and break through a previous “glass ceiling” she was hitting  An unexpected challenge she faced after making a quantum leap in her business  How Jill went from being a “reluctant leader” to empowered team leader The process she uses for generating new ideas for social media and what she means when she says “quantity begets quality” when posting content  Two questions Jill asks herself when making tough decisions and how she reframes any discomfort she feels in these situations  Her feedback on the Performance Mastermind and advice for any other entrepreneurs looking to level up their businesses For full show notes and links, visit: www.mindyourbusinesspodcast.com/blog/724 

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 2727: Jill Coleman shares her journey of realizing that radical changes in her fitness routine weren't necessary for her happiness or self-acceptance. By making small, sustainable adjustments, she finds balance and mental peace, emphasizing that choosing a positive self-perception leads to greater motivation and fulfillment. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2012/04/20/coming-clean/ Quotes to ponder: "You literally get to decide how you feel about yourself right now. There is no 'right' or 'wrong,' only the choice of positive self-perception or negative self-perception." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 2727: Jill Coleman shares her journey of realizing that radical changes in her fitness routine weren't necessary for her happiness or self-acceptance. By making small, sustainable adjustments, she finds balance and mental peace, emphasizing that choosing a positive self-perception leads to greater motivation and fulfillment. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2012/04/20/coming-clean/ Quotes to ponder: "You literally get to decide how you feel about yourself right now. There is no 'right' or 'wrong,' only the choice of positive self-perception or negative self-perception." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If you're curious about building an audience on social media AND making sales from the content you post r you simply want more social media strategies in your toolbox to grow your business then you do not want to miss the latest episode of the New Generation Entrepreneur podcast with my guest, Jill Coleman. She grew her business from 0 to 7 figures by using a strategy that helped her build an audience and make sales. She's also taught this method to hundreds of others with huge success!   Listen in and discover successful mindset hacks and secrets, how she built her brand and her own frameworks, the 6 S's of social media content (one's inspired by me and my content!), and ways to tell compelling stories. As Jill puts it, “People don't want to hire the smartest person, they want to hire someone who understands them”. Discover how to use the 6 S's in your content so you can connect with your audience on a deeper level and grow your business.   [ACCESS JILL'S SECRET PODCAST] The Advanced Business Blueprint for online business owners + coaches who want to scale to multiple 6 or 7-figures in the next 12 months. Subscribe here - https://brandonlucero.com/jill    Did you enjoy this episode? I'd love it if you'd share it on Instagram and tag me @iambrandonlucero and @jillfit! Thank you for supporting the show.   Find me on: IG: @iambrandonlucero Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/IAmBrandonLucero  Website: https://www.brandonlucero.com 

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 2704: Jill Coleman shares actionable strategies for curbing nighttime overeating by building effective habits. She introduces the concept of workarounds, physical, nutritional, and lifestyle tools that divert you from the couch-food-TV routine and the practice of "intermittent sampling" to foster moderation and self-control, making it easier to resist overindulgence. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2014/01/27/nighttime-eating/ Quotes to ponder: "Whatever you practice is what you get good at. And Day 1 of practice is always the hardest, but the more you do it, the more automatic it becomes." "Even a little better is still an improvement. What food would you like to continue to be able to eat but need to practice your moderate approach around?" "These practices automatically put me in more control than ever, effortlessly. It's simply just 'the way I eat' now." Episode references: The Power of Habit: https://www.amazon.com/Power-Habit-What-Life-Business/dp/081298160X Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 2704: Jill Coleman shares actionable strategies for curbing nighttime overeating by building effective habits. She introduces the concept of workarounds, physical, nutritional, and lifestyle tools that divert you from the couch-food-TV routine and the practice of "intermittent sampling" to foster moderation and self-control, making it easier to resist overindulgence. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2014/01/27/nighttime-eating/ Quotes to ponder: "Whatever you practice is what you get good at. And Day 1 of practice is always the hardest, but the more you do it, the more automatic it becomes." "Even a little better is still an improvement. What food would you like to continue to be able to eat but need to practice your moderate approach around?" "These practices automatically put me in more control than ever, effortlessly. It's simply just 'the way I eat' now." Episode references: The Power of Habit: https://www.amazon.com/Power-Habit-What-Life-Business/dp/081298160X Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 2703 Jill Coleman explores the common struggle of nighttime overeating, explaining how willpower depletion throughout the day leads to poor eating habits. She offers practical strategies like replenishing willpower during the day and satisfying cravings earlier to prevent overeating at night. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2014/01/27/nighttime-eating/ Quotes to ponder: "Willpower is exhaustible, and at the end of a long day of just even TALKING, there's none left." "Often cravings are related to feelings of deprivation. When we feel deprived for a day or a week or a month, the compensatory overindulgence is inevitable." Episode references: The Power of Full Engagement: https://www.amazon.com/Power-Full-Engagement-Managing-Performance/dp/0743226755 Switch by Chip and Dan Heath: https://www.amazon.com/Switch-Change-Things-When-Hard/dp/0385528752 The Willpower Instinct: https://www.amazon.com/Willpower-Instinct-Self-Control-Works-Matters/dp/1583335080 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 2703 Jill Coleman explores the common struggle of nighttime overeating, explaining how willpower depletion throughout the day leads to poor eating habits. She offers practical strategies like replenishing willpower during the day and satisfying cravings earlier to prevent overeating at night. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2014/01/27/nighttime-eating/ Quotes to ponder: "Willpower is exhaustible, and at the end of a long day of just even TALKING, there's none left." "Often cravings are related to feelings of deprivation. When we feel deprived for a day or a week or a month, the compensatory overindulgence is inevitable." Episode references: The Power of Full Engagement: https://www.amazon.com/Power-Full-Engagement-Managing-Performance/dp/0743226755 Switch by Chip and Dan Heath: https://www.amazon.com/Switch-Change-Things-When-Hard/dp/0385528752 The Willpower Instinct: https://www.amazon.com/Willpower-Instinct-Self-Control-Works-Matters/dp/1583335080 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Send us a textIn this episode, Dr. Jade interviews Jill Coleman (his bestie & ex-wife) about building an online coaching business in the health and fitness industry. They discuss the importance of niching down and speaking the language of your ideal client. They also cover different types of social media posts, including solution posts, stories, and superpower posts. Jill shares her personal journey of starting her own online coaching business and the importance of investing in mentorship and education. In this conversation, Jill and Jade discuss the different types of posts that health and wellness professionals can use to build their online coaching business. They cover solutions posts, stories, system, superpowers, services, and symptoms. They emphasize the importance of sharing valuable content, building trust, and creating a system or methodology that sets you apart from others. They also discuss the mindset around selling and the importance of investing in yourself and your business. Jill offers a free program called the Profitable Online Coach, where she shares step-by-step strategies for building a successful online coaching business.Join Jill's Free Training: CLICK HEREkeywordsonline coaching, health and fitness, niching down, social media posts, solution posts, stories, superpower posts, investing in mentorship, online coaching, social media, marketing, business, solutions posts, stories, system, superpowers, services, symptoms, selling, investingtakeawaysNiching down is crucial in the online coaching business to stand out in a saturated market.Solution posts are effective in connecting with your ideal client by addressing their specific struggles and providing actionable solutions.Stories are powerful in creating relatability and allowing people to see themselves in your journey or the journey of your clients.Superpower posts, which highlight your unique qualities or interests outside of your expertise, help build connections and make you memorable.Investing in mentorship and education is essential for growth and success in the online coaching industry. Use different types of posts, such as solutions posts, stories, and symptoms posts, to engage with your audience and provide value.Build trust by sharing valuable content and showcasing your expertise.Create a system or methodology that sets you apart from others in your field.Overcome limiting beliefs around selling and recognize the importance of investing in yourself and your business.Jill offers a free program called the Profitable Online Coach, where she shares step-by-step strategies for building a successful online coaching business.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Focus on Career, Finance, and Wealth02:54 Jill's Journey in the Online Coaching Space08:13 The Fear of Annoying Friends and Family on Social Media11:01 Niching Down and Speaking the Language of Your Ideal Client17:11 Types of Social Media Posts: Solution Posts25:27 Types of Social Media Posts: Superpower Posts31:01 Types of Social Media Posts: Stories34:35 Types of Social Media Posts: Highlighting Your Superpowers37:22 Building Trust and Providing Value39:11 Differentiating Yourself with a System or Methodology45:29 Overcoming Limiting Beliefs around Selling57:55 The Importance of Investing in Yourself and Your Bus Connect with Next Level HumanWebsite: www.nextlevelhuman.comsupport@nextlevelhuman.comConnect with Dr. Jade TetaWebsite: www.jadeteta.comInstagram: @jadeteta

In this episode, Jill Coleman discusses the importance of niching down and attracting your ideal client. She emphasizes the need to identify the problem you solve, determine who you solve it for, and define how you uniquely solve it. She also introduces the concept of core values and explains how they play a crucial role in attracting the right clients. Jill shares her own core values, such as action, competency, authenticity, and integrity, and encourages listeners to identify their own values and incorporate them into their branding and content.   Join Jill and the Movement Maestro at #BossUp: https://www.jillfitprograms.com/bossup   Jill is a fitness professional and business coach who effectively made the transition from training clients in person and having no time to build anything else to training clients online and actually being more successful. Today, Jill helps other coaches to do the same.   Connect with me! Instagram: @jillfit | @fitbizu Facebook: @jillfit Website: jillfit.com

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 2679: Jill Coleman explains why relying on exercise alone for weight loss is misguided, emphasizing the greater impact of dietary changes on metabolism and physique. She highlights how different exercise modes affect hormones, the unsustainability of high-volume workouts, and the negative mental effects of using exercise as "penance" for poor eating habits. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2012/06/26/6-reasons-cant-outtrain-bad-diet/ Quotes to ponder: "It is not only the amount of food, but also the quality of the foods you eat that matters." "Weight training trumps cardio for fat loss. Intensity trumps duration for fat loss." "The whole concept of 'doing penance' because of bad food choices puts us in a negative frame of mind, where we use guilt and remorse as motivation." Episode references: Body for Life: https://www.amazon.com/Body-Life-12-Weeks-Mental-Physical/dp/0060193395 Eat to Live: https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Live-Amazing-Nutrient-Rich-Sustained/dp/031612091X The Calorie Myth: https://www.amazon.com/Calorie-Myth-Jonathan-Bailor/dp/0062267337 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 2679: Jill Coleman explains why relying on exercise alone for weight loss is misguided, emphasizing the greater impact of dietary changes on metabolism and physique. She highlights how different exercise modes affect hormones, the unsustainability of high-volume workouts, and the negative mental effects of using exercise as "penance" for poor eating habits. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2012/06/26/6-reasons-cant-outtrain-bad-diet/ Quotes to ponder: "It is not only the amount of food, but also the quality of the foods you eat that matters." "Weight training trumps cardio for fat loss. Intensity trumps duration for fat loss." "The whole concept of 'doing penance' because of bad food choices puts us in a negative frame of mind, where we use guilt and remorse as motivation." Episode references: Body for Life: https://www.amazon.com/Body-Life-12-Weeks-Mental-Physical/dp/0060193395 Eat to Live: https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Live-Amazing-Nutrient-Rich-Sustained/dp/031612091X The Calorie Myth: https://www.amazon.com/Calorie-Myth-Jonathan-Bailor/dp/0062267337 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this re-air episode of the Digital Business Evolution podcast Jess is joined by Jill Coleman who is the founder of JillFit and the creator of The #Moderation365 Method. Over the last decade as an online business coach, Jill has helped thousands of health, fitness and nutrition professionals start and grow their online coaching businesses and generate over 6M in sales. Learn today from Jill's specialties as she dives into personal branding, self trust, and staying power. Tune in to learn how to earn the right to pivot in your business, how to grow and scale your business and how to create the impact as you mature as a business owner!! As always, cheers to your evolution! Key Takeaways: How the best time to mess up is when you are getting started.  When it comes to staying power the best thing about it is your audience power, it's your fans,the community, the people who want to open your emails and communicate with you.  Not everyone needs to scale and scaling is not all about making more money as that is just the tip of the iceberg.  Key Timestamps [12:02] – The best time to mess up is in the beginning; [17:36] – Staying power; [29:45] – Earning the right to pivot; [39:00] – Scaling your business; [44:46] – Lifestyle as marketing; Episode Quotes “The best thing about a personal brand is that you are able to honor who you are. And I think that the most fulfilling  part of this is that you get to show up as you and your authenticity is your compliance tool ” - Jill Coleman Episode Resources Everything you need to know about the moderation365 program with Jill Coleman: @moderation365 For all the juicy details of The Club Membership, CLICK HERE:  https://www.jessglazer.com/theclub Connect with Jill Coleman Instagram:@JillColeman Podcast: @Thebestlifepodcast | @FitbizUpodcast Connect with Jessica Instagram: @iamjessicaderose  TikTok: @iamjessicaderose YouTube: Jessica DeRose 

In this episode, Brad Crowell and Lesley Logan recap their interview with Greg Tomchick. They discuss Greg's emphasis on fostering internal trust and leadership within organizations, the importance of getting to know people you hire, and how chaos in personal lives can affect company culture. They also highlight Greg's focus on a people-first approach in cybersecurity, the value of setting personal standards, and effective strategies for building trust in the workplace.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Reducing pain and strengthening your knees during Reformer moves. Why your employees' personal lives can impact company culture.How trust gaps can be a company's biggest vulnerability and blind spot.The advantage of a people-focused approach to cybersecurity.3 C's framework for building trust within teams and organizations.The importance of setting standards to attract meaningful connections.Episode References/Links:World Listening ProjectOPC Summer ToureLevate Mentorship ProgramCambodia February 2025 RetreatTry OPC $40 for 40 DaysGreg Tomchick WebsiteGreg Tomchick Social LinksValor CybersecurityPilates for Knee Pain Workshop with Sonia AhmedJill Coleman Episode  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  He was just saying that like security isn't just about technology. It really is about trust within the company culture. And we have to focus on that. So, if you are a business owner, you do have to focus on your company culture, if you do want to have amazing security in your business, because you need everybody to be running at their best and most amazing level. And that goes for in your family too. It doesn't have to be cybersecurity. It could be like just taking care of each other inside of a family as well. Lesley Logan 0:25  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the trust-centric convo I had with Greg Tomchick in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one, you should go back and listen to that one at some point because it's really freakin good. I totally was thinking how am I going to explain what security is to my listeners and.Brad Crowell 1:27  Cybersecurity.Lesley Logan 1:28  Cybersecurity. I was like, oh, I guess we can talk about being cybersecure helps you be it till you see it. And we didn't even talk about much about cybersecurity, I still don't really know what it is. So it's actually a great interview because you're gonna hear a lot about how to be an awesome human. But first, today is July 18th 2024. And it's World Listening Day. About this day. It's the sound of World Listening Day on July 18th. World Listening Day is hosted every year by the World Listening Project, how many times do we say world listening in a paragraph, a nonprofit organization that is “devoted to understanding the world and its natural environment, societies, and cultures through the practice of listening and field recording.” They explore acoustic ecology, a discipline that studies the relationship between humans and the natural world as mediated through sound. So quiet down, open up your ears, and get ready to study soundscapes on World Listening Day. So what you can do, (inaudible), and you can go hiking without air pods and you could just listen to the sound. Just listen outside and go for a walk around your block without air pods. You could actually just sit in your house without turning any devices on. There's lots of ways to listen to the acoustic ecology. And, you know, what it's mediating through sound to you wherever you are. It's important, you know, so okay, go listen to the world today. Brad Crowell 2:45  Yeah, actually, they may even have some things for you to listen to over at worldlisteningproject.org Lesley Logan 2:51  Cool. Okay, so, coming up, we are super close to leaving for our summer tour. And at the time of recording, five cities workouts are sold out. That's the time we're recording this at the time that this comes in your ears, it's possible that more are sold out. Brad Crowell 3:04  Yeah, a lot more. Lesley Logan 3:06  So you want to go to opc.me/tour to grab your tickets. Yes, you can go to multiple cities. I mean, if you're going to Milwaukee, you may as well come to Chicago or Minneapolis, or Cleveland or something like that. It's gonna be a lot of fun, there's people who are just like totally grouping out, we have merch for the groupies as well. So check it out opc.me/tour. At the time that this drops, we have already accepted people to eLevate and it's possible there are some spots in 2025 left for you to apply to. So if you're a Pilates instructor who is wanting to have a mentorship program that really helps you have more confidence in your teaching, your practice, or connection to the method then go to lesleylogan.co/elevate. We only take 12 people in a group. So don't wait because the next one would be 2026 which is really friggin far away. Brad Crowell 3:49  It's true. Lesley Logan 3:51  Cambodia retreat, our October one is very sold out. But our February one has spots in it. And that one is gonna be amazing because it's a different time of season. So it's actually basically the end of the dry season. And the landscape looks so different. I think that's really cool to see because it helps you understand like, what was going on with these temples and why (inaudible) and like the Mekong River and all this amazing stuff. Plus the sunrises are stunning in February. Would you agree? Brad Crowell 4:16  Oh, I mean, y'all heard me talk about Cambodia before it's my favorite place. Yeah, absolutely. It's a little bit of a different vibe, but it's a great vibe. I mean, we used to actually always do a retreat at the beginning of the year. And then COVID really complicated everything. So yeah, you should absolutely come join us in February 2025. For more information on that go to crowsnestretreats.com, crowsnestretreats.com.Lesley Logan 4:45  And lastly, but not leastly, if you are looking for a workout that works for you finally, that's what OPC is all about. So it is got accountability and community and feedback on your form. And you don't even have to have fancy equipment. There's a mat version, mat only membership version with really amazing classes and lots of support, and you can go to opc.me/40, opc.me/40 it gives you 40 days for $40, which is $1 a day, which is cheaper than a lemon every day, just saying.Brad Crowell 5:15  Before we get started, though, we have an audience question. This is from Alison Trotsky, she DM-ed you here, she said, "Hi, I was wondering if you have any pointers for some Reformer moves to improve knee strength, I use your Reformer flashcards all the time."Lesley Logan 5:32  I love this. So knee strength is really key, it means the muscles above and below the knee have to be strong, which means when you go up the leg, your hips have to be strong and not just flexible, but strong as well. So you want some mobility there, because if the hips are tight, the knees are going to actually be compromised. And so what I would say is if you're on the Reformer, well, first of all, we have a whole workshop on OPC, about reducing knee pain and strengthening your knees. Sonia Ahmed is a physio and Pilates instructor and eLevate grad out of the U.K. and she created that, so you can get that workshop at onlinePilatesclasses.com and you get to keep it forever. And she gave us some amazing exercises that you could do on the mat and also using equipment as well. But on the ReformerBrad Crowell 6:20  Yeah, that one's called Pilates for knee pain. It's a workshop on the site. Lesley Logan 6:24  On the Reformer, I think if you are already doing footwork, you need to know that that is part of what the "strengthen your knees" should be, however, if you're pushing from your knees, you're missing on all the good stuff. And so if you watch my footwork tutorials, I talk about how the knees are not pushing down, it's actually not about opening the knees, it's about working on the back of the legs. And so that would be a good one for you. Stomach massage is gonna be really good. And then also hamstring curls are gonna be really great. Knee stretches are going to be amazing for you. Front splits, like, honestly, it's really hard to choose, there's so many more we can go through. But I would need to know if you're hyperextending your knees. Brad Crowell 6:59  You would need to know?Lesley Logan 7:01  I would, pun intended, apparently. So, Alison, if you are an OPC member, then you can actually send me a video of you doing some of your former moves. And I could see what's going on that makes you think you need to strengthen your knee. And I could give you more and more tailored feedback other than like right now these are just some really good exercises. However, if you are hyperextending your knees, none of these will work. So. Brad Crowell 7:23  Yeah, and we have people submit videos to us every single week, we have something called Form Feedback Fridays, and all of our OPC members are allowed to send in videos. (inaudible) of them doing their practice saying hey, you know, I'm confused on this thing. I'm not sure how you know, whatever. And you can ask whatever question you want to ask. And then our team, the teachers, will actually check it out and give you some feedback. Lesley Logan 7:46  Yeah. Brad Crowell 7:47  Okay, now let's talk about Greg Tomchick. Transitioning from the field to the boardroom. Greg Tomchick, an award-winning cybersecurity coach, former professional baseball player and CEO of Valor Cybersecurity has made a name for himself in the business and technology sectors. He focuses on helping executives cultivate internal trust and improve their leadership capabilities. Greg's approach is rooted in self-discovery and the intentional building of meaningful connections, which he discusses on his podcast, The Connected Mindset Live. As a sought-after speaker, he inspires others to share his journey and insights on building trust from the inside out. Greg isLesley Logan 8:27  He's so cool. Brad Crowell 8:29  Incredibly eloquent and I was surprised to hear him describe himself as the dumb jock in high school. Lesley Logan 8:36  Yeah, there's he doesn't seem at all them. Brad Crowell 8:38  No, in no way. (inaudible)Lesley Logan 8:39  And also very insightful, and curious. And he's also like, in the episode was like, oh, I asked my coaches for feedback. I see people for feedback. He's always looking for feedback, which is like, amazing. I just think he's really awesome. So one of the other, so many things that I loved, we talked about, but he mentioned a rhythm of existence. And he was talking about how our overall lifestyle of how we maintain ourselves as individuals, that we carry our personal life into our company, and that's of company that you work for, or that you run, but we carry it over. And it's so true. I don't, there's no way to compartmentalize like, I do not understand that at all. Brad Crowell 9:19  Well, he was talking about hiring people, I think, or doing interviews and how we hire people based on a resume instead of hiring them based on who they are. And he was talking about how his favorite thing to ask is not like, what do you do for work, but instead it's like, you know, what do you do when you're trying to blow off steam or what do you do? Like, who are you? What do you like to do and what he's hoping to understand is are they, are they like a chaos agent? Is their life chaotic? Lesley Logan 9:47  Because if their life is chaotic, they bring chaos into a company. Brad Crowell 9:50  Yeah. Even, no matter what the resume is, that's how they are, that's who they are, then that's what they're gonna bring. Lesley Logan 9:55  100% This goes for everything, guys, you don't have to be hiring people. We can actually just take this to like friendships, Do you have those friends who just like every thing seems to like tragically happen to them. Like there's just always like, drama in their lives, well, they bring drama into your life, like, that's just how it is, that's who they are. It's okay, if you've been friends with them for 17 years, or like, they know certain people that are super cool. The resume isn't what you're getting, you're getting the actual person. And so in any relationship that you are hiring for, because we are all looking for best friends, partners, people to work with, things like people to hire, get to know them, because that person is what you get. So I think that's a great way of exploring it. And he had said, I just wanna highlight like, because we're like cybersecurity where this come from the episode, he was just saying that, like, security isn't just about technology, it really is about trust within the company culture. And like, we have to focus on that. So if you are a business owner, you do have to focus on your company culture, if you do want to have amazing security in your business, because you need everybody to be running at their best and most amazing level. And that goes for in your family, too. Like it doesn't have to be cybersecurity. It could be like just taking care of each other inside of a family as well.Brad Crowell 11:08  Yeah, listening to Greg talk about that, it reminded me of the time that I worked back in the office. And you could always tell when somebody was down or you know, whatever. And 99% of the time, it was something happening outside of the office. Yeah. Because if it was in the office, and somebody fucked up or whatever, y'all knew it, it wasn't like, you know, he.Lesley Logan 11:32  You could also address it, it wasn't like you would oh, there's Greg, he fucked up the project. You would like talk to Greg, hey, Greg, what happened here? Like, how can we fix this? Like, you kind of actually can resolve a conflict, almost, I would think that with, you can't go to their partner and go, What the hell's happening at home, you're fucking, you're making him have a bad day at work. It's bringing us all down. Like you can't do that. So like, it's a little, you know, hard.Brad Crowell 11:55  Yeah. Well, one of the things I really love that he said was, again, talking about companies and again, making me reflect on my experience, I said, large companies that he has worked with, they want a more people-focused approach to security not just the focus on technology, which I thought was really interesting, because for me, what that means is, technology's changing the cybersecurity space, too. And it's impacting some of the things that before a company like his might come in and be like, here's a recommendation, you got to do this, this, this, this, and this, and he's like today, with the, you know, the advent of login, like one, one, password login, you know, or whatever, all those kinds of tools, they those kinds of tools, make his job as a cybersecurity expert, easier. And he said, actually, a lot of the time now, he's working with them on hiring practices, so that he can understand, they can vet the team that they're bringing in, or the vendors that they're bringing in, because you might actually be inviting the cybercriminal into your space to work at your space.Lesley Logan 13:01  Here's a perfect example. You can all witness it on the Ashley Madison Documentary, highly recommend it, highly recommend it. It's awesome. It is all the things not to do. One of their contractors is who took over the website, held it hostage, not for money, but because of values, and then released all that information that they were supposed to delete. But again, because they didn't hire people who would ask questions. No one was like, hey, do we actually delete the profiles? Will the people pay extra for us to delete the history? No, they didn't. And that's why they got sued. And it was a big bad thing. So just like if you are like, no way this didn't happen. It happens on a big level. Huge.Brad Crowell 13:39  Yeah. And alongside getting to know people before you bring them in. He also talked about once they're in, the value of having just a one-on-one conversation and stopping by their desk or their office and poking your head and actually getting to know them. He said that, you know, I mean, we live in a world today of text messages, phone calls, DMs. He said it's a quick dopamine hit, but nothing replaces the actual one-to-one interaction. So I always thought it was interesting. I mean, we work remotely, right? So it's actually hard for us to do that. Although we do spend a lot of time on Zoom calls and Google Meets and all those kinds of things where we like, like, sometimes we're just co-working with people virtually from the other side of the world. And you know, we are effectively spending time with them, even if it is remotely, but even that I like even more than just a text message or a DM because you really can't feel disconnected. It just feels like you're chatting to, you know, some random people. So yeah, great, really interesting observations. Yeah. Stick around. We'll be right back. All right. Finally, let's talk about those Be It Action items. What bold, executable intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Greg Tomchick. He provided three C's that individuals and leaders can use to foster trust within themselves and their relationships. And I thought this is really cool because he said, you know, half the time, half the battle for cybersecurity is building trust in your team and trust with your clients. And he said the three C's are consistency, compassion, and connection. And so which we love, because that overlaps. Two of those C's are overlapping OPC's core values which I, I love that. But he said, you have to have consistent engagement with someone that you're going to build trust with, you want to have an approach to understand where they're coming from, which is the compassion element of it, asking meaningful questions, like we were already talking about, sticking your head in their office and actually building trust, getting to know them, not just like, hey, what do you do for work? But like, who are you? And what's life like for you? And then with connection, building trust requires genuine connections, hopefully, through deep, you know, more than surface-level conversations. So what about you? Lesley Logan 15:50  Okay, so he talked about this, and I thought was so great, because you can apply this to anything. He said, set your own standards, what a bold statement. And he said, what is this piece? He said take a piece of paper and write one to five and say, what is the standard that I need to have to attract the right person? And this could be for co-working, this could be for relationship, this could be for friendship, this could be for anything like what are your standards? We had Jill Coleman on and she is one of the people who like really, really honed in with as when we worked with her about values. And like, values are the same as standards like and also you could also insert like boundaries, like these are things that are like, required to be with me or work with me or in a relationship with me of some kind. So write them down and have a clear list of the five most important standards you value. There you go. And then he said an example is that like, Greg has transparency and compassion as his values. And so he is really upfront when he meets new people about what those standards are. And it either weeds people out, or attracts the right people in. And they're going to help improve you because they're going to follow with those standards, which means you have to, as well.Brad Crowell 17:00  Yeah, I mean, it was interesting. You talked about just basically introducing himself and being like, hey, this is who I am. Take it or leave it. Lesley Logan 17:07  Yeah. You know, our friend Lauren Zoeller does this as well. She's like, really, like, upfront, she won't like she's like, here's what I need. Here's what it takes to be like a partner, this is the type of conversations I want to have. It's who I am. And you know what, like, I find that she has some very deep upfront conversations that can be very, like conversational, that may not happen on most people's like, fifth or 17th date, that she's having on like, before the date. So I actually think more and more people are wanting to do this, because life is short. We don't have a lot of time. And you don't want to, like get too involved with someone or something or some project, only to find out that the values and standards aren't going to align and you have to get out of it anyways.Brad Crowell 17:46  Yep, I totally agree. Well, love that. We really love Greg, it was, it's been awesome to get to know him in person. We've actually met up with him a couple times. And it's been just great. He's a standard guy. I think, you know, not only has he figured out something really amazing with his cybersecurity company about how to be a leader. But also it's allowed him the flexibility to go around and start speaking from stage about these types of topics. And, you know, it's just been fun to watch him grow. Lesley Logan 18:20  Yeah, love it. And also, I just want to say like, check us out, we had a whole cybersecurity and baseball conversation without really talking about either of those things. So there's very deep levels to all of these things that makes person up. So, thanks Greg for being our guest. How are you going to use these tips in your life? We want to know. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 18:37  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 18:38  Make sure you share this with a friend who needs to hear it. Please, please, please, pretty please with ice cream on top, please. It is how this podcast grows. We actually cannot get amazing, huge guests. I've had some of you request Michelle Obama, Oprah, like, of course, I want these people. They care about downloads peeps, I'm just gonna be really honest. So share this with a friend, write a review, it makes, it's like, it's currency test. Brad Crowell 18:59  And actually, we've had some people ask, like, how can I support you straight up, check out the links that we have from for our commercials, you know, for our ads, because our you know, they are companies that we actually do use their products, we actually have a relationship with them, we talk with them, they have set up a special link so that they know that you that we've referred you to them. And that's how you can support us absolutely. It helps us also grow the pod.Lesley Logan 19:27  Those referrals are how what pays for the pod and it helps us grow the pod. So please, please, please, that's how you can help us. Thank you so much. And until next time, be it till you see it. Brad Crowell 19:35  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 19:37  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.    Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.  Brad Crowell 20:19  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 20:24  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 20:28  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.  Lesley Logan 20:36  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.  Brad Crowell 20:39  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time. Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Jill talks a lot about the importance of nailing your messaging in your business, but what exactly is messaging and how do you develop it? In this episode, Jill Coleman interviews messaging expert, Brandon Lucero, on how to nail the messaging in your online business. They discuss the importance of effective communication and how messaging is the way you talk, speak, and write to connect with your audience. Brandon and Jill discuss the importance of trust in marketing and how to build that trust with your audience—and not just traditional human-to-human trust, but trust in your ability to solve their problems and trust in themselves to make a change. When your messaging is consistent and powerful, your potential clients will be jumping at the chance to work with you.   Connect with Brandon! Instagram: @iambrandonlucero   Listen to the New Generation Entrepreneur Podcast! https://brandonlucero.com/   Join Jill and the Movement Maestro at #BossUp: https://www.jillfitprograms.com/bossup   Get on the Interest List for FBA: https://jillfitfree.com/fba-waitlist/   Jill is a fitness professional and business coach who effectively made the transition from training clients in person and having no time to build anything else to training clients online and actually being more successful. Today, Jill helps other coaches to do the same.   Connect with me! Instagram: @jillfit | @fitbizu Facebook: @jillfit Website: jillfit.com

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 2631: Jill Coleman reveals the surprising link between diet and acne, highlighting how the traditional American diet can exacerbate skin issues. Discover how hormonal imbalances and certain foods contribute to acne, and learn dietary changes to promote clearer skin. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2011/07/12/acne-nutrition/ Quotes to ponder: "Acne development starts in the gut, not solely on the skin." "Insulin decreases IGFBP-3's availability to the cells; an undesirable outcome since apoptosis is needed to maintain normal rates of sloughing off." "A low glycemic load diet significantly reduced biochemical markers for acne development in as little as 7 days." Episode references: Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology: https://www.jaad.org/article/S0190-9622(07)00795-5/abstract The Dietary Cure for Acne: https://www.amazon.com/Dietary-Cure-Acne-Loren-Cordain/dp/0978510917 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 2631: Jill Coleman reveals the surprising link between diet and acne, highlighting how the traditional American diet can exacerbate skin issues. Discover how hormonal imbalances and certain foods contribute to acne, and learn dietary changes to promote clearer skin. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2011/07/12/acne-nutrition/ Quotes to ponder: "Acne development starts in the gut, not solely on the skin." "Insulin decreases IGFBP-3's availability to the cells; an undesirable outcome since apoptosis is needed to maintain normal rates of sloughing off." "A low glycemic load diet significantly reduced biochemical markers for acne development in as little as 7 days." Episode references: Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology: https://www.jaad.org/article/S0190-9622(07)00795-5/abstract The Dietary Cure for Acne: https://www.amazon.com/Dietary-Cure-Acne-Loren-Cordain/dp/0978510917 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ready to transform your life? Lesley and Brad recap powerful takeaways from the interview with fitness professionals and motivational speakers Danny-J Johnson and Jill Coleman, co-hosts of The Best Life podcast. Learn how these inspiring women overcame personal hardships to empower others and discover actionable steps to heal past trauma, kill your ego, and become your best self. Plus, get expert tips on using Pilates flashcards in your practice. Tune in for an empowering and educational episode you won't want to miss!If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How to take action, ownership, and responsibility in your life.Understanding why transformation is a slow, steady process.Jill Coleman's principle of making decisions as your future self.Insights into freeze responses and how to overcome them.Practical tips on letting go of the ego and embracing personal growth.Episode References/Links:Summer TourBalanced Body and ContrologyElevate Mentorship ProgramCambodia February 2025 RetreatFebruary 2025 RetreatMat FlashcardsEgo is the Enemy by Ryan HolidayThe Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck by Mark MansonIf Book Could Kill PodcastThe Best Life PodcastThe Best Life Podcast InstagramDanny-J Johnson InstagramJill Coleman WebsiteJill Coleman Instagram  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  When they made the decision I can control what I can do, that's what really gave them the power to move on with their own lives. And then, now, today, kick ass and take names. It's one of those moments when you're forced to realize that you can't control what other people think, say and do. That sucks. It's really, really probably a hard thing. But you're gonna be better for it.Lesley Logan 0:20  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:03  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the liberating convo I had with Danny-J Johnson and Jill Coleman. I think the J is for Johnson. Brad Crowell 1:14  J is for Johnson. So you just call her Danny-J. Danny-J and Jill Coleman.Lesley Logan 1:15  In our last episode, if you haven't yet listened to that interview, go back and listen to it. These women are badass as they're so fun and they're doing amazing things. And I just, I like, I love watching their stories all the time. So anyways, you can listen to that now or you can listen to this now and you can listen to that later, it's fine. You can do whatever order you want. If you're listening to it in the OPC app, which is free by the way, you can actually just see them lined up with each other, makes it super easy because I'm just gonna say a certain fruit phone does not make it easy to figure out which episode to listen to, in which order because it just automatically downloads the next one and you like are out of order sometimes.Brad Crowell 1:18  It's true. Lesley Logan 1:26  I'm just saying. Brad Crowell 1:54  That's true. That's happened. Lesley Logan 1:55  So today is June 27th 2024 and it's PTSD Awareness Day. About this day, on June 27 we talk about PTSD, a complex disorder caused by experiencing or witnessing trauma. The trauma necessary to cause PTSD can originate from many events — potentially an accident, combat, a natural disaster, or an assault — but there are other ways PTSD symptoms can arise. A trained professional must diagnose PTSD, based on symptoms like hypervigilance, mood swings, recurring and involuntary flashbacks to the trauma, and avoidance. The National Center for PTSD declared all of June to be PTSD Awareness month — you can help their campaign by educating yourself and others about the illness, and sharing help with those who might need it. Very important. We have been trying to get my dad some help for his PTSD, which he is like in denial that he has, and we're like, here are all how (inaudible)Brad Crowell 2:45  Here are all the symptoms that we're self-diagnosing you in but yeah, one of them is not sleeping, you know, and all like all sorts of different things like that (inaudible). PTSD is post-traumatic stress disorder. But this is actually something that has been reallyLesley Logan 3:01  But it's not just for people who've been in combat, you can have PTSD from from a car accident, like they said, or an assault or natural disaster. Brad Crowell 3:08  You can certainly have PTSD from those things as well. You know, any traumatic experience can create that, can create PTSD. The very first movie I ever acted in was about PTSD. Lesley Logan 3:21  Really? Brad Crowell 3:22  Yeah.Lesley Logan 3:22  That's interesting.Brad Crowell 3:23  Yeah. I was, I was working at a film school and one of the students who was a, becoming a director, did an entire movie about it, and he cast me in one of the parts. Lesley Logan 3:34  That's so, it's so cool. I had no idea you were ever in a movie. I know, a lot of first ones. So, there's others.Brad Crowell 3:41  So yeah, there were. One of my really close friends was in the military, multiple tours in the military. And then obviously, like you said, you know, Lesley, Lesley's dad. So, you know, lots of family and friends. Lesley Logan 3:55  Yeah, so I think like, it's really important to make sure that they have the help that they want, they might not be able, it's really easy. I find like my dad would say like, he didn't have as bad as other people. So he, so I think it's really easy for people to compare their own experiences to someone else's and, and make it smaller, like (inaudible). Yeah. So like, it's not PTSD, because, I can't have it because it wasn't as bad as this person, but you can have it. And I read this amazing book, what happened to you, which also explains like based on how you were raised as an infant, your resiliency levels, and it's possible that like, you might not have those tools from being so young, that you might have PTSD over on something that someone else who's sitting right next to you might not have had it on. So like it's so important to not belittle it or shame yourself, please get help or help someone in your life who has it, like find out the areas in you're in your communities that can help them. Brad Crowell 4:52  Yeah. Lesley Logan 4:53  All right. Brad Crowell 4:54  Coming up. Lesley Logan 4:54  Coming up. We're a little over a month away from leaving for our sixth tour, our Summer Tour powered by Balanced Body. We're so excited. Brad Crowell 5:03  That is crazy. Lesley Logan 5:04  I know. It's so, it's great. It's our sixth tour. It's our second Summer Tour. It's our third tour powered by Balanced Body and Contrology. And that allows us to do lots of, lots of cities we probably wouldn't be able to do and meet some incredible people. So we're doing 13 cities. Let's see. Here we go. Las Vegas, Salt Lake City, Denver, Lincoln, Nebraska, Minneapolis, Minnesota, Milwaukee, Chicago, Cleveland, Ohio, Dayton, Ohio, Indy, Kansas City.Brad Crowell 5:33  Kansas City.Lesley Logan 5:34  St. Louis, Colorado Springs. Brad Crowell 5:36  That's right. Lesley Logan 5:37  Way, I did a great job.Brad Crowell 5:38  Slayed it, slayed it. Lesley Logan 5:39  I slayed it. I do wonder if I got the St. Louis and Kansas City in the right order. Because but I just don't actually know. Brad Crowell 5:45  So actually, St. Louis, I thinkLesley Logan 5:46  Is first I don't really know (inaudible). You know, the middle of the map is confusing, like Nebraska is more North than I thought. So.Brad Crowell 5:46  Yeah. St. Louis is east of Kansas City. Lesley Logan 5:52  Okay, so then that definitely has a (inaudible). Go to opc.me/tour to get your tickets because it is selling really fast. And we are not hitting (inaudible) any of them. We're not hitting most, most of them again on the winter tour. And our summer tour will not be these cities. So. Brad Crowell 6:13  Actually, none of these will be on the winter tour. Lesley Logan 6:14  Oh, we're not doing St. Louis either. Are we doing Denver? Maybe.Brad Crowell 6:19  Man, that's debatable. Lesley Logan 6:21  That's debatable. Okay, so just know that it's possible. We won't hit any of these cities again, including Las Vegas. Who knows? Brad Crowell 6:27  That's true. Lesley Logan 6:28  Yeah. So OPC.me/tour to get your tickets. Yes, you can come to multiple events do not worry about like, oh, I want to make sure (inaudible), come to ones you want to come to. I mean, some of these are only two hours apart. So like come party with us, come home with the dogs. There's lots of fun prizes. elevate applications are probably open right now. And the reason I say probably is because at the time of recording we have not picked the dates but they open for two weeks. And I want to say it's now because I'm pretty sure the following week is when I'm doing the call. So let's just say they are open. You want to go to lesleylogan.co/elevate, it is my mentorship for Pilates instructors. So if you're not a Pilates instructor this is gibberish to you. If you are a Pilates instructor, this is a master's program, mentorship program, it allows us to spend nine months together really diving deep into the method and ditching the imposter syndrome, ditching the over talking, ditching the hours of prepping, and really helping you connect to your practice, connect to your teaching and also this method. So lesleylogan.co/elevate, I can only take 12 people per group. So just so you know, the next one would be 2026. Brad Crowell 7:28  Right.Lesley Logan 7:29  Yeah. So (inaudible)Brad Crowell 7:29  This enrollment would be for 2025 kicking off in January. So yeah, so don't sit on that one. Next up, we got Cambodia. February 2025. We are taking an amazing group of women with us so far. There may be aLesley Logan 7:30  A few good men.Brad Crowell 7:45  There may be a few good men coming with us too. But there are room for that. Lesley Logan 7:50  You can bring your partners. Brad Crowell 7:52  Yeah, we actually have a ticket specifically for the experience only for people who are like, hey, Pilates isn't my thing. But I want to go do the trip. Absolutely. Welcome to join us. Anyway, go to crowsnestretreats.com, crowsnestretreats.com. Lesley Logan 8:05  If you keep saying I'm going to the next one, I'm gonna go to the next one. Take this one, as we learned from Kel Cal. Brad Crowell 8:12  Yeah, that's right.Lesley Logan 8:13  Tomorrow doesn't exist, only today does. And so there are future trips don't exist yet. Just the ones we've got planned.Brad Crowell 8:19  That's true. That's true. Very, very true. Lesley Logan 8:21  Very unlikely. Brad Crowell 8:22  Why would you come to Cambodia with us? I'll tell you it is an experience of a lifetime. And I don't say that as like a, as like aLesley Logan 8:32  Every one of our retreaters has, like, I'm gonna come back like it's Brad Crowell 8:35  In fact, we've had multiple retreaters join us more than one time. It is just an incredible, incredible trip. The people are lovely. The environment is incredible. The jungles, the temples, I'm not even kidding you, it's The Jungle Book in real life. We literally get to walk around these incredible temples. You know, we're allowed to walk on them, around them, in them through them. It's, I, it's just mind-boggling. We get to eat incredible food. We practice Pilates, we build relationships and friends and fun. We get to go do a lotus farm we get to go like actually on a pond with all these amazing lotus and see the process (inaudible). There's so many incredible experiences in this trip. It is, I think of all the things that we do, what we do a lot, this is hands down my absolute favorite thing to do. And when we are retired someday, I will still do this. Lesley Logan 9:29  Yeah, yeah. No, it's true. It's part of the retirement plan. So crowsnestretreats.com, crowsnestretreats.com Brad Crowell 9:38  That's plural, crowsnestretreats.com. Lesley Logan 9:41  Yeah. All right. And lastly, in case you didn't know, all of this happens because of onlinepilatesclasses.com. And if you are not a member yet, we want to know why. But also we want you to try it out.Brad Crowell 9:53  Yeah, go join us. Lesley Logan 9:54  Yeah, it's OPC.me/40 it gives you a 40-day trial for only $1 a day. So 40 days for $40. And why are we doing 40 days? Because the reality is, is that like, it does take time to start something new. And it's not that it takes 40 days to (inaudible) happen in two days. But also like, we want you to experience two different monthly themes and multiple weekly classes and potentially join us for a live class and get feedback on your form and meet the community. So we want you to be able to have all the amazing experiences because we know that if you do that, you are an OPC life for like so many of our members. So OPC.me/40 for the best, most amazing community in the Pilates world. All right, before we get into Danny-J and Jill Coleman's episode, do we have an audience, a listener question, Mr. Brad?Brad Crowell 10:41  We sure do. Today, Tamara Gomez wrote in and she said she's hesitant to reach out with this question and really tried to figure it out on her own but for a 30-minute Pilates class how many cards would you pick out from your mat Pilates flashcard deck. I'm having a hard time designing the class around the amount of time that I choose. Lesley Logan 11:05  Yeah. So if you haven't yet gotten our mat flashcards, you should get them.Brad Crowell 11:09  Yeah, go to opc.me/flashcards. Lesley Logan 11:12  Yeah. So here's the thing. When Joseph Pilates created his mat work, if you did it on your own, and really, even if you're advanced, it takes you under 30 minutes to do all the cards. Brad Crowell 11:21  All of it. Lesley Logan 11:21  All of that. Brad Crowell 11:22  Yeah. That's gonna be two exercises in the official. Lesley Logan 11:24  I had someone reach out to me on YouTube going, can you create a 50-minute beginner workout on the Tower, Wunda Chair, a 50-minute on the reformer and 50-minute on the mat for beginners. I said, no, it's impossible. There's not even enough beginner exercises on each one, even if I combined them all together it wouldn't be 50 minutes. So like, no, without knowing the level of your class, I'm just going to assume they're all levels. So I'll have a class. So you probably will take out any of the overhead exercises, just be say, on the safe side. And so you'd be left with about 26-27 cards left, that actually could be 30-minute class right there. And if you just leave them in the order that they're in, it already has a set of action transition for you. So you don't have to do any work. You don't have to like reorder it at all. Now if you wanted to shuffle them, and like treat it like a tarot deck and see what comes next. You totally can there's nothing wrong with that. But I would say about 20 to 27 cards would be a 30-minute class without a problem. Brad Crowell 12:19  Yeah. And that's if you're not moving quick. Which was why I was laughing. Do you remember the year that we were at momentum fast and all the teachers were doing the close-out? Yeah, well, how many minutes? Did they give you? Five? Ten? Ten minutes. So and.Lesley Logan 12:33  And people were doing huggy and stretchy and Kumbaya and like all this and like they were you know, just all this stuff. And I was (inaudible), what are you gonna teach? And I was like, well, clearly, I'm gonna do some Pilates because I have it hasn't happened yet. So I just did the whole order.Brad Crowell 12:50  In ten minutes.Lesley Logan 12:51  In ten minutes.Brad Crowell 12:52  Ten minutes.Lesley Logan 12:53  I think I did it in less than that, because I'm pretty good at it. We did one rep of everything in under 10 minutes. The whole thing. And that's when I coined you can crab sooner than you think. And people loved it. And they all crab sooner than they were ready. And also they had done like 14 or 15 events over two days. They were like so sore. They're like, oh, but also like they all did it. And I was so proud of them. So, anyway, Tamara, I hope that helps. Brad Crowell 13:17  Great question. Lesley Logan 13:17  Great question. Thanks for getting the cards also, it really means a lot to me. I love that you use them to class plan. I love that it's helping you nerd out. And if you have any questions, you guys, about the flashcards you can certainly ask us. You can also go to opc.me/flashcards and you'll see all of the decks. Our fifth deck is in print as we speak.Brad Crowell 13:36  Yeah. It's gonna be released this summer. I guess technically it's summer. It'll be released in August or I guess could it be in September? We'll see how the printer is going. I'm pushing for August. Lesley Logan 13:47  He's pushing for August. I'm realistically saying September. I don't like disappointing people. If you have a question you want us to an swer we can answer anything. It doesn't have to be Pilates, it can be all the different things, we have different guests on, so feel free to send your questions in.Brad Crowell 13:59  (Inaudible) ask about all my amazing hats that I wear. Lesley Logan 14:02  Brad really does change his hats and he hopes you notice.Brad Crowell 14:05  But if you only watch on YouTube, then you'll see it. You can DM us on the gram or you can text us at 310-905-5534 to ask your questions. Stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 14:20  Okay, now let's talk about Danny-J. And Jill Coleman. Danny-J and Jill, co-hosts of The Best Life podcast, began their careers as personal trainers and fitness competitors. They bonded over shared experiences of discovering their husband's infidelities and their evolving views of fitness and nutrition. They aim to help women feel less alone. embrace change and let go of past identities to become the person they are meant to be. Yeah, and I I knew, I knew that story, (inaudible) but I forgot that story. Yeah, I totally forgot that story and, and listening to them rehash that, the experience of how a how they met and how their podcast came to be, was, was a little bit sad, but also a little bit amazing because it brought the two of them together. And, you know, they've been really close friends now for many years because of that. Yeah. Lesley Logan 15:17  Yeah, I think so I think like, I don't know, every time we say this, somebody gets mad and goes, I didn't want my dog to die, that nothing's good gonna come with that. But like, really, everything does happen for a reason, like, good, like you, there's, it's something is going to come out of this new journey that you're having. So this sucks that they are both cheated on. But they ended up having this new, amazing friendship. And now look, they both have amazing dudes that they are with. So like it all, it all works out, and they probably would not be where they are had it not happen. I really love that they share their story. And I love that Jill said you can't control what your spouse and other people in your life are doing. But you can always control what you decide to do. And we decide to make of it. Brad Crowell 16:02  What you decide to do and what you decide to make of it. Lesley Logan 16:04  Yes. So she went, like, that's what like Danny-J did by moving to L.A. and that was really, really hard for her to, the hard part of her life, hard time in her life. And so, but she was able to take some action. And then I liked that they talked about like always being focused on moving forward. So taking action, taking ownership and taking responsibility. So like we talked about like, you know why they started their podcast, but where they are today. And that's part of like, they're taking action, they're focused on moving forward, they're taking ownership and responsibility. It's not easy to do. Like we make mistakes all the time. And we kind of get embarrassed, but you feel like you can take responsibility for the things that go on in your life and how you can control what you're gonna do in that situation.Brad Crowell 16:46  We've definitely talked about this before that you can't control what others think and say and do. You can only control your own actions. And the way that you think, you know, in this case, it was it was really challenging for both Danny-J and for Jill to to empower themselves as their relationships or after their relationships. As they were ending or after their relationships. When they finally realized there's no change, the guys in the relationship, were not interested in fixing it. And both Danny-J and Jill couldn't, you have no control over them, right? So you can't change what they're going to say and do. Even though you felt like you guys have made a decision together to commit to each other, to do all these things, this is actually really challenging for me, because this is literally what happened to me, too, where I was pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing to fix it. And my ex finally said, I don't want to fix it, I will not fix it. And that was really shocking for me. Because why did we even do this in the first place? You know, and that was really, really hard for me to wrap my head around, you know, and I, just listening to their stories that made me kind of relive that a little bit in my of my own story and, you know, relate to them a little bit. And when they made the decision, I can control what I can do. That's what really gave them the power to move on with their own lives. And then now today, kick ass and take names. It's one of those moments when you're forced to realize that you can't control what other people think, say and do. That sucks. It's really, really probably a hard thing. But you're going to be better for it. Lesley Logan 18:22  Yeah, yeah. Brad Crowell 18:24  One of the things that Danny Jay was talking about, was that transformation actually comes slowly. Sometimes it comes slowly, to the point where you don't even notice it. This was after the, you know, after the separation with her ex. She said the last couple of years have been challenging for her. She, her mom passed away, she has like some people broke at her house. You know, she.Lesley Logan 18:51  She was robbed in Mexico twice.Brad Crowell 18:53  Oh, it was, it was in Mexico. That's right. Sorry.Lesley Logan 18:55  I don't know. And I think she was brought up there (inaudible). Brad Crowell 18:57  I thought there was one in Vegas? Lesley Logan 18:58  But there was twice in one week in Mexico. Brad Crowell 19:00  Yeah. And then she, she actually did have she does have PTSD, from childhood trauma. And, you know, she got stuck in a couple of interesting places to that. So she, you know, she decided to start really tackling that internally. She did ketamine, and she's done a lot of therapy sessions. And one therapy, one therapist told Danny something that I thought was, was interesting for me, because we've all heard of fight or flight, right? Or it's like the two things like you're, you're either running or you're fighting. Well, there's a third one that nobody ever talks about. And that's freezing.Lesley Logan 19:40  There's also fawn. There's a fourth. Fawn, a lot of women will fawn. So fawn Brad Crowell 19:46  F-A-W-N?Lesley Logan 19:47  Yeah. Brad Crowell 19:47  I didn't even know that.Lesley Logan 19:48  Yeah, so fawn is like it hap- Megan Fox talks about this when she was abused in a relationship. She was abused and what she did was like fawn which is like it's okay, you're okay. Don't worry, that was my fault, you start to make them feel better and you kind of like, not Damsel, but like you, the way to take control of the situation is to kind of like, it's not to yight back or do nothing. It's the play, yes, yeah.Brad Crowell 20:14  Yeah, this is really hilarious. I was actually going to tell a story about my fight, flight, or I experienced the third one, freeze. When I was camping when I was a kid. I was up in the upstate Pennsylvania, in the, in the woods, like hardcore in the middle of the woods. I was with the scouts and the Scoutmaster said, hey, there are bears here. So, you know, don't carry around food. Don't be stupid. If you see a bear, you know, get loud, right? And my friend decided to play a joke on me. I was adamant that I could walk through the campsite without using a flashlight, because I like night vision and being able to see the stars and stuff. And I was coming back down from my tent to the camp to like the big camp area where all the people are. And he snuck out from behind a tree on all fours pretending to be an animal. And I, I found out what I would do now moving forward, I would freeze and do nothing. Because that's what I did. I was like, like what? You know, and, and so I just looked up, fight, flight, fight, freeze, and fawn. And the examples that they came up with are all about a bear flight, run away from the bear, fight, fight the bear, freeze, play dead, fawn, keep the bear happy. And so I didn't know that. That's actually really, really interesting to me. Anyway, Danny-J was talking about the freeze response. And she said her therapist was, basically said, she's frozen, right? She's stuck. She's stuck in this this moment. And so she started doing more therapy and ketamine, and she had started to have some baby steps, which started to loosen things up in her life and allow some forward momentum to happen. And she said she's really proud of the shift that's begun to happen in her life, because it also sounds very healing. You know, ultimately, so I think that's amazing. Lesley Logan 22:13  Yeah. I just love these ladies. They're just so great. Brad Crowell 22:16  Yeah, both incredibly powerful and exuberant, they're just so fun to be around. They have great energy. Yeah. Love it. Yeah. Also, both of them have incredible minds for business, which is super fun. Because obviously, that's what I love to nerd out about. So, you know, we've, we've worked with both, both of them as coaches in our business over the years, and it's been exciting to take the things that they're suggesting and have experienced and are doing and incorporate them into the some of the things that we're doing, too. So, yeah, anyway, stick around. Brad Crowell 22:53  All right, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Danny-J and Jill Coleman? Jill was talking about her coaching experience and she starts talking about this as if principle.Lesley Logan 23:10  I had, by the way, I had not heard of this as if principle till after I named the podcast, Be It Till You See It, and it really is the as if principle. Brad Crowell 23:17  Yeah. So she has been working with a couple of coaches herself. And one of them, you know, sells millions of dollars a year in sales. And she started to think about this idea of like, what, what would my, you know, what would my coach do in this situation if he was going to make this decision? How would someone who's making millions of dollars in sales make this decision? Right? And so she began to think I need to make decisions as if I am a millions of dollars business owner, right? Because that's where I want to be, right? Which is, be it till you see it, y'all. So she said, there's going to be a gap, however, between where you feel comfortable and where you want to be. And she said, you need to ask yourself, what is my action here? If I were already the person that I'm trying to become what decision would I be making? What's the way that I can sort of step into that new version of myself, even if I'm still scared, because I am still me today. She suggested to picture the person that you want to be or, or the person that you look up to, that already has accomplished the thing that you're trying to accomplish or achieve the thing you're trying to achieve. And then filter your decisions through that lens. So she said also, she's been making some decisions that scare her, because they're out of her comfort zone. She hasn't made decisions like this before. And she said by committing to actions that scare you, you actually force yourself to follow through because you know, if you make a decision and you're like putting everything on the line, you have no choice now, suddenly, right?Lesley Logan 24:54  Yeah, it's kind of like when we even I know she hired more team when we are working with her and it's like you hired them and you're paying them do a job so you gotta give them the job to do so it's full steam ahead even if it scares you because Brad Crowell 25:06  You better make enough money to pay everyone you know so yeah. Exactly. What about you?Lesley Logan 25:12  Okay I've Danny-J's she said kill your ego and kill the old version of yourself so you can become the person you're meant to be. And I'm like this hard.Brad Crowell 25:20  Kill that ego. Lesley Logan 25:21  Danny-J's the hardest to be (inaudible). But she said, because if you cling to your old self, and how people perceive you, it'll hold you back. And people are gonna try to pull you back with your, into your old identity or be critical of your evolution. This happens. This has happened to me as like, I've evolved people like, oh, you're, you're not like this anymore. You're not like this anymore. I'm like, yeah, no, I don't have the time. I'm not doing that anymore. You know, so I cannot do that anymore. And it's you know, and then if you're a people-pleaser, that can be really easy to like, fall back in line, but you got to kill the ego, and kill the old version of yourself. And she said, stop beating yourself up for wanting to change or be different. And I think that's really, really important. It's okay if you want to be different. You just got to do the things you can be different. But she said, in order to be different, you have to be different. Which seems obvious, but guess what, you might forget that you can't just do the same morning routine, same work, same clothes, same friends, and then expect the day to be different, that is the definition of insanity. And she said you have to be able to let go of who you are to become the person you want to be. So go kill your ego, everyone, that is your Be It Action Item from Danny-J.Brad Crowell 26:30  I love it. Well, I want to know, actually, I want to know how do you kill your ego?Lesley Logan 26:37  I feel like that is the Ego is the Enemy book. And he kind of repeats himself 17 times so I feel like if you listen to the Cliff's Notes version of that, you are totally got it. Um, but yeah, I think that or it's therapy, lots of it, you know, or maybe it's like, honestly, you might not be giving a fuck about what other people think so it might actually be The Suttle Art of Not Giving a F*ck, instead of the Ego is the Enemy.Brad Crowell 27:04  That's both great books. Lesley Logan 27:06  Well, one or both of those books was in If Books Could Kill. And to be honest, I think you just need one sentence from each book. And you've got, you've got the whole book, so you don't need to go buy them. You can just like get the Cliff's Notes, I swear. And that is how you're gonna kill your ego, I think, but also, I'd really think it's going to be part of being it until you see it. It's gonna take kill your ego isn't me going back to Jill's and like, what are the things that you'd be doing if you weren't letting your ego drive you (inaudible) things.Brad Crowell 27:34  Yeah. And ego creates fear. Ego creates that lack of confidence or the other end of the spectrum, ego creates arrogance, or, you know, short sightedness, blindness, those kinds of things. So, you know, ego covers the whole spectrum. Yeah. All right. Fair enough. All right.Lesley Logan 27:51  I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 27:52  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 27:53  Thank you so much for listening to this episode. I hope you got out of it as much as we did. I hope you loved Danny-J and Jill Coleman as much as we do. They're so fabulous. Go listen to The Best Life podcast. And make sure you share this episode with a friend. That's how the podcast grows. So my big ask of you today is to share this with someone you love or someone who needs to hear it. Please, please, please, pretty please. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 28:14  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 28:16  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Are you ready to step into that new version of yourself? In this episode, Lesley Logan interviews Danny-J Johnson and Jill Coleman, the voices behind The Best Life podcast, whose unique and inspiring friendship has been a cornerstone of their journey. Discover how they transitioned from fitness industry professionals to influential figures in empowering women as they share their experiences coping with infidelity, applying Jill's "as if" principle, and understanding ego death in leadership. Learn how clinging to your old self and how people perceive you can hold you back. This episode is a masterclass in reclaiming your power.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How Danny-J and Jill's friendship and collaboration began.The inspiration and struggles behind The Best Life podcast.Their gradual transformation and how their audience has evolved.Danny's unexpected encounter that led to a new documentary. Insights into maintaining a successful collaboration or partnership.How Jill applied the "as if" principle to scale her business.How to let go of old identities and overcome the fear of ego death.Episode References/Links:The Best Life Podcast InstagramThe Best Life PodcastDanny-J Johnson InstagramJill Coleman InstagramJill Coleman WebsiteGuest Bio:Jill & Danny-J both started their careers in the fitness industry as personal trainers then as fitness competitors and cover models. As they soon discovered, modeling doesn't pay the bills and the hustle can't last forever, they each turned to online training to buy back some of their time and increase their impact. While, they knew “of” each other online, they finally met in person in 2013 where they learned that their similarities extended past their fitness backgrounds.They were also the same age, had husbands who were the same age…. And, as life goes; they both found out their husbands were having affairs within a year of each other.   If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Danny-J Johnson 0:00  We were looking at the sunset and she was just like, 'This is so cool we get to be here. This is the best life.' And we're like, yeah, this is. And so the best life really came out of these moments of things can be so hard and we can be going through the most unimaginable things that we can process and yet still find the good in them and still choose to see like this can be the best.Lesley Logan 0:24  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:06  All right, Be It babes, get ready, because we have some amazing Be It babes, literally, on the pod. And I'm in plural. So I love these two women to the moon and back. I could have done a two-hour interview with them. I could have done two different ones. We might have to have them back just because they're powerful epic women who are extremely, not just vulnerable, but also like integris. And I mean that in that they really do say what they're doing. And they're also not afraid to tell you when they are going to change things because they've actually gone to the transformation themselves. And that's what we're gonna talk about. So they're the host of The Best Life podcast, a podcast I've been listening to since 2019. And they started a couple years before that. Brad actually turned me on. Jill Coleman was one of our coaches for many years. And still someone whose tips and strategies I still think of and use today. She's just amazing. Danny-J has been a great person for me to learn from she has been in coaching sessions that I've done with Jill on Money Mindset and also really helped us with some ideas on a couple of launches that we've been doing and she's just a breath of fresh air with just amazing tips and things for life. So you're going to learn so much from these two women, it's going to be really, really fun. And I hope that you check out their podcast, because if you like this one, you're gonna like that one. And I also want you to know that you are just the most incredible people. Thank you for being here. Holy moly. I can't believe what episode number we're on. We couldn't do without you. So thank you for sharing this podcast with a friend and thank you for being part of the Be It family. And also, more importantly, thank you for being it till you see it each and every day. You're amazing. Lesley Logan 1:26  All right, Be It babes. I'm super stoked for this stuff. This finally happened. I've had these two women on my list for quite some time. Part of it was me just like waiting until like, I was a better podcaster. And then it was like I really wanted to just highlight an amazing way. And then life gets really busy. But we finally have these amazing women, Danny-J and Jill Coleman. Thank you all so much for being here. Just a quick little, little thing that I have to say before I have you introduce yourself, you guys. Jill, doesn't even know when we actually first met, but I know when we first introduced, we were introduced to her and we listened to every single thing she taught in a 30-minute little training, wrote it down, ran through her amazingness and then bought a house. So we always said this is the house that Jill built. And then we were introduced to Danny-J because of Jill and her podcast. And I just, I just love Danny J, how you you're so uniquely different than Jill but also like the two of you are two peas in a pod. So I've learned so much from both of you and your amazing personalities. Can you tell everyone, Danny-J first, who you are and what you rock at? And we'll go to Jill. Danny-J Johnson 3:52  Yeah, well, thanks for having us on this. And I know it's been a process to get on the show. Jill and I are both definitely different. But the way in which we're the same is that we don't like to reply to emails or schedule. We had such a challenge to figure out when to make this work. But yeah, so I started in the fitness industry. And that's how Jill and I met, you know, over a decade ago, which is really crazy. And I've had a lot of pivots in the meantime, I think a lot of us who started in the fitness industry go into coaching or personal development or mindset work because I think that when you're working with people in fitness, you realize how much mindset is such a big piece of the journey. And so over the years, I've done that, I've done a lot more public speaking and what, you know, went through some big major life transitions over the last couple of years, not that we all didn't because of the pandemic but so in the meantime, I have just been working on the podcast, doing a little bit more speaking and doing some behind the scenes stuff, coaching other people helping them with launches, and working on a documentary. So that's where I'm at right now.Lesley Logan 4:56  You never cease to amaze me with the different things that you do. (inaudible) So, can you tell everyone in case they don't know how amazing you are as well and what you rock at? Jill Coleman 5:09  Yeah, just casually being like, yeah, there's gonna be a documentary about my life. Lesley Logan 5:14  I know. Okay, we'll get into that, but. Jill Coleman 5:16  Yeah, we need to talk about that. Um, yeah, I am so excited to be on this podcast, and I can't wait for the recap. As you know, I love you and Brad, and I am so excited and just honored to be here. And yeah, you and I and Brad have worked together for the last few years on business stuff. And you and I do know that we met at, it was, what, Chris and Laurie Harder's event? You were in Fast Foundations. And I went, and basically, they were like, hey, can you come and teach? What are you excited about? And I was like, Dude, I love talking about launching, and basically talk for like, 90 minutes with a whiteboard, which is on brand for me. And you followed it up, and you guys said, hey, you know, we pretty much implemented your exact this is from like a gist of speaking engagement. Like you guys took it, you ran with it, and you fucking crushed your next launch, which was really awesome. And then that started our relationship. So like, Danny, I was in the fitness industry for a very long time, still have a hand in the fitness industry. But mostly do business coaching at this point, you know, I love fitness, love nutrition, but I feel like I'm a little bit on the outside looking in. If I'm going to a conference, it's a business conference. So I feel like even though I still love health, fitness, wellness, I don't think you can get away from that. If you want to have a successful business you have take care of yourself. But when it comes to what I'm passionate about is really helping fitness and wellness pros build their online business and bringing them online and being able to create the life that they want, have autonomy, flexibility, financial freedom, all that good stuff. Lesley Logan 6:33  Yeah, yeah. You were doing already, obviously, when we met, but it's been cool to see how you've changed that, leveled it up and dialed even deeper into that. Okay, but the two of you together have The Best Life podcast. And I kind of want to start with that just a little bit. Because I've even watched that go through an evolution. What I love about talking about the show is like life isn't very linear. And we have we all change as things go, and you guys have even changed what that podcast focuses on. So can you talk a little bit what The Best Life was when it started and like, and then how that journey has gone?Danny-J Johnson 7:09  The Best Life started, so Jill and I had talked about doing a podcast, I think individually and together for a long time I like I think most of us have, probably less I'm just gonna guess that when you first thought about doing a podcast, when you started was probably a big gap of time, at least for I'd say it was like a couple years. And I think it was like, what do we talk about what kind of podcast and Jill and I went through some big stuff. We were both married. We, I think how Jill and I became really good friends was this we, we met in 2013 at an event. And I remember having this cup, we went to dinner, we knew of each other, we went to dinner. And I remember we were talking and we just kept saying me too, me too. Like, I just felt like we were living these parallel lives. We were the same age, oor husbands were the same age, we were doing, we were both in fitness. And then we both kind of went to coaching fitness entrepreneurs. And we decided to meet up in Vegas. And we I thought we would have like a little couples trip and she said, hey, let's just meet as girls. And she shared that her husband had had an affair and they were separating. And I remember just thinking how could anyone have an affair with Jill as their wife like she's gorgeous and smart and attractive. And she could share? You know her thoughts on that. But literally, I think it was eight months later, same thing happened to me. And I was really embarrassed to talk about it. And she had called me and I, finally, she was the first person I told. And she said, you know, come stay with me in California. And I was like, are you serious? Because I remember thinking I don't know where I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go have to live with my parents or something I didn't know what to do. And so I moved out to Los Angeles, stayed on her couch for a month. And we were both just kind of rebuilding our life and going through one of the hardest times we had been, been through together. And we had this moment we were sitting on her balcony in Santa Monica, we were drinking wine. And I'm sure crying, at least I was. And we were looking at the sunset. And she was just like, "This is so cool we get to be here. This is the best life." And we're like, "Yeah, this is." And so The Best Life really came out of these moments of things can be so hard and we can be going through the most unimaginable things that we can process and yet still find the good in them and still choose to see like this can be the best. And we had some of the best times during that time. We laughed and we went through some crazy things. But the best life really was about that. And we shared that story about the affairs in our first two episodes. And we just kind of looked at each other and said if this helps one person feel less alone and like we did then we want to keep doing it. And so it started as being able to share those kinds of stories, helping people feel less alone, just sharing our journey. Of course, the first few years of The Best Life were us being single and going through crazy dating, and now we're both in long-term relationships. And so that's really changed, but I think the overall arching theme of The Best Life has still been helping people feel less alone, going through life transitions, how to look at them differently and change your perspective. And so that part, I think hasn't changed.Lesley Logan 10:11  Yeah. Jill Coleman 10:12  Yeah. I'm like, why am I tearing up on YouTube about that story? We had talked about the podcast for a while. And then but we were kind of like, we don't really know what to talk about at this time. Like, I feel like, people talk a lot more now about infidelity. And, you know, we have some friends who have like huge platforms who have since talked about being cheated on and going through infidelity and betrayal. But when Danny and I started in 2017, it like, wasn't like, it was kind of taboo to talk about, it was like, kind of embarrassing, you know, especially with us, two people who had audiences. And both of our ex-husbands were a kind of a big part of our brand, too. So there was this feeling of like, you know, can I do this alone? Or, like, you know, how does this look, you know, Danny had her ex-husband at some of our products. So it was like, so being able to share that we see a lot more of that now. But we never wanted to be a show, or we never wanted to be coaches that help people like marriage counseling, that wasn't our thing we weren't like, because we do get people who say like, should I say or go and we're like, dude, like, above my price with my written pay grade, right? Like, that was never the thing. So we always took the angle of look, this stuff is happening in your life, you can't control what your spouse does your partner does what other people in your life are doing, but you can always control what you decide to do and what you decide to make of it. And I think that really was the idea that you have a locus of control and a time in your life, whether it's any kind of loss doesn't have to necessarily be betrayal, any kind of loss, you have this, you have something you can do, you can still be in your power. You know, Danny moving to LA, probably one of the hardest times of her entire life. But she action that, she could have stayed in Utah, and like, you know, when I talked to her she's driving around and like crying in parking lots. I was like, what are you doing? You know, she she could have easily just tried to stay, she could have tried to like, you know, work on it. And you know, she did to a certain degree, but her ex was very clear about how he didn't want to work on it at that time. So, you know, she was able to action something, even in a time when she felt was completely betrayed. It wasn't her fault. And I felt the same way. And so I think for us, it's always been about like, that thing happened to you. And it fucking sucks. And that person might be an asshole, or whatever. But there's always something else that you can do. And so we've always focused on moving forward taking action, taking ownership, taking responsibility, what is that next version of you look like? And so yeah, I love that you said the best life has evolved because it certainly has we, you know, we're not going out drinking until like two in the morning, every six days a week like we were doing just trying to like cope and laugh and get through it. We had this one saying that for like about two years, we're just like, what else are you gonna do? You know, you're going through some of the hardest time in your life, you just, you do what you can. And so, you know, Danny hasn't even been drinking for the last 18 months, you know. So it's like, we've completely shifted, what our focuses is and I've definitely doubled down a lot more in business in the last several years. So it just evolved. And we've been able to luckily bring our audience along for that ride. Lesley Logan 13:06  Yeah, I guess like, I would love to chat a little bit about that evolution, because I think a lot of people don't make changes, because they're like, what are people going to think? What are people going to say? And obviously, like, you already went through that with talking about the infidelity and talking about being single. But did people struggle as you guys got into relationships? Did you guys even like hesitate on sharing some of the transformations as the podcast was already going, because I feel like a lot of people, they know what they want to do. But they're that taking that next step where they could disappoint people is really the hardest thing to do.Danny-J Johnson 13:39  I think transformation sometimes is really slow and gradual. So you don't notice. Like I don't think we got into our relationships thinking they were going to be five, six years later. So you know, we were dating, thinking, H guy was next. And so I think that it's been I know that there was one review that said something about how we were different. And maybe we were just checking the boxes, and I think there was a time around when my mom passed away, where we had kind of, we'd pulled off and just by necessity, right, I just wasn't there mentally and, and then we got back to it. And it was a little bit slow going. And it has changed. But I think our audience changes too, like Jill and I started over a decade ago. So we're not the same 25-year-olds and we're, our audiences ain't either so I think they also expect that and they probably, a bigger audience, if they haven't changed too, they leave and new people come in and so we don't really notice that as much and to be honest, it's not like we can be the same and I don't think we should I mean, I can't I'm not single-just-divorced Danny and neither is Jill and we probably shouldn't be that and if we are then we're not really a personal development guest.Lesley Logan 14:54  Right. Right. Jill Coleman 14:55  Yeah, and not that you need to like necessarily be in a relation on that not the next evolution but I also think, you know, people follow The Best Life not because Danny and I are like the expert at everything, they follow it because it's good listening. And it's fun. And it's two girlfriends, you know, kind of processing stuff, a lot of times, we'll be on an episode. And it started out being about this thing. And then all of a sudden, it's evolved into like this. And before I know it, like one of us is crying and like, and that we're having this really vulnerable conversation. And so I don't know that people are like, oh, yeah, Jill and Danny are experts at whatever, you know. But they will like to listen, because it's a good conversation because oftentimes, we challenge each other and we don't agree on everything. So I think there's, it's just like conversations you would have with your girlfriends, every I would say probably 80% of our reviews for the podcast, say something like, I feel like I'm just hanging in the living room with my girlfriends and chatting. And so we've never tried to say, I think our even our tagline is like, real, raw, sometimes insightful, like, we're not always, you know, go to Huberman or go to like us, he's not, he's a little bit canceled, but like, go to someone else, right, if you want the research studies and shit like that. That's never really been our style. Our style has been just like real and raw. And that's what people tell us. So. Lesley Logan 16:03  Yeah, I, thank you for sharing that. And I do think you're right, Danny-J, like, transformation does happen slowly, sometimes, like, we'll go through that journey with you. And it's kind of it's the rare person who maybe they were listening for a while, and then they popped in like they've changed like, that might, might be the thing. I want to get into, so, Danny-J, you've you've done a fitness, and then in coaching, and then finance coaching, and now you've a documentary. So can we chat a bit about because I think, you know, you, to me are such a permission giver of really following what your heart is saying and like what you're drawn to. And, you know, my perfectionist overachievers, who are listening, they're like I said, I was gonna do it like this, I'm gonna do it like this. And I, maybe you do it like that. But I feel like you're like, no, I, this is how I'm gonna do it, I feel you just give me a lot of permission to kind of just go a different way. So can you talk a little about how you got to what you're doing now in this documentary? Danny-J Johnson 16:55  Yeah, sometimes I feel mad at myself for not just sticking to one thing, because like my friend, Cassie, she's the brand blog allottees. And I remember looking at her maybe five or six years ago, and I was like, Man, if I just stuck with Sweaty Betties, which was my fitness brand, for longer, I would be a lot more successful if I just stayed there. But I had these, and every single time it's been a moment of just, I cannot do this thing anymore. And it's like some physical feeling in my body that I just can't stand whatever it is. And that, like the Sweaty Betties moment, I was actually at an orphanage and there was a very, very specific moment where I was hungry. And there was nothing to eat and someone brought us these peanut butter sandwiches made with Wonder Bread. And I was like, I had two simultaneous thoughts as one, I'm not going to eat those kinds of carbs. And two, I think I was like, I can't believe that I am seeing that shit right now, when I'm in an orphanage with all these starving kids. And that's all they get. And so I had this like, holy shit moment of, wow, I'm so privileged that I can choose what kind of carbs I'm going to eat. And this is like all there is to eat at the moment. And so I came home, really, really like having this inner dialogue of, I have so many clients that are like, can I eat this? Can I eat this and I'm like, you're so lucky, you get to have the choice to eat whatever you want, like get over yourself. And so I stopped doing meal plans really shortly after that. And I started to really focus on just what was behind that. It was like, okay, I noticed I attracted a lot of binge-eating clients. And it was like, it's not really what you're eating. It's what's eating you. And so I got really into what was the deeper stuff. Now to use the word trauma is a little more like, I guess, the trendy thing, but it's like, what are the traumas behind that? What are the things that you're processing that are making you overeat? And so that really intrigued me. So did like success, mindset and mindset stuff started to intrigue me. And so I started to shift started to talk about it, but it was kind of gradual, I'd have these kind of conversations online, and people would either jump in on it or not. But I found that the conversations I was having other people were maybe having these insights at the same time. So it turned into another gradual thing. When I look back. I'm like, how did I get from here? Like I was an acrobat at SeaWorld to what I'm doing now. And there's no linear line. But as I look back to each of the like little steps in the conversations in between, it does make sense how it's evolved. The pandemic was a big one. You know, none of us saw that coming. None of us saw how things would shift. But again, it brought up things for all of us to kind of contemplate. There were conversations that were being had about racism and privilege and things that I hadn't concerned myself with before. And that shifted a lot of the ways I think, and the ways I show up. And so how we got to the documentary, was this completely random and also on brand as Jill would say, I was in a bathroom at the Ritz Carlton, Jeff and I just went to go hang out and kind of work there. We were visiting in Orange County and met this woman in the bathroom and she complimented my hair. And about two and a half years ago, I lost a ton of hair. So I was wearing it, it was really thin, and I was really embarrassed. So I bought a halo like, it's an expensive headpiece like extra hair. And she goes, your hair is so pretty, and me, I can't take a compliment. That's not true. So I was like, thank you, but it's not my hair. And I literally pulled it off and showed her that I had this fake hairpiece on. So she started laughing. And I told her where to get it. And I was like, oh, I'll send you a link. So I got her phone number and sent her this link to get the hair. And she was probably in her 60s. Or like 50s. And I don't know how it came about but I, she somehow got a hold of my TED Talk. And my TED Talk was in 2021. And I share a lot about my life story. I was pregnant in high school, and I was suicidal. And she watched it and she text me and she said she saw this and she wanted to do a documentary on me. And I Googled her found out she's like this documentarian and she lives in Beverly Hills. She happened to be in Orange County at the Ritz for lunch with her friends. And I said, okay, and I didn't really take her seriously because I've dealt with Hollywood and TV people before. And nothing ever comes of it. But a few months later, she had me come out to our house and do some filming. A couple months after that, she flew to Vegas to do some filming. We're doing some filming in two weeks. And I talked to her and she's like, I want to get this done and have it out and ready for film festivals by 2025. So she's like, on it. And she's a legit person, she's won a lot of awards, and she wants to enter this into to, the film festivals. So it's really gonna be based loosely on my life, which is, I have an interesting story with family and my, I came from a sperm donor, and I placed my daughter for adoption. And so I don't even know the storyline of the documentary, but I know it's just gonna be based, based loosely on my life and like familial and bloodlines and that kind of thing.Lesley Logan 22:08  That's so random. And also, it makes a lot of sense that it's everything to you. And I love these, I love those random moments. The other day, I went floating, and every time I float, my hair rarely gets wet. And so I don't really spend the time to shower and wash my hair because it's, it's a lot, not complaining, very blessed. But it would be, I would, the person after me is going to take, is gonna be half an hour late, like it's just going to take time. So I was like, oh, it's a little wet. So I rinsed it just like in the bun and just like rinsed where I thought the salt water hit. And I get out and my hair is like dripping wet. And I'm like, but it's not wet, right? Like it's just like a little section. It's like dripping wet. So I like did it again. I'm trying to dry it in a rush trying to get out and Brad's like there is so much salt in your hair. Like you're like what has happened? I was like, I don't know, I've rinsed like I did a little rinse and normally it doesn't get wet. At any rate, we called five different salons to do a hair wash. None of them were available. Went to Great Clips. I can't believe I was gonna say that. I was like, I called the guy, I'm like, but they can't ruin it, right? If they just wash it. I said, yeah, I'm like, I'll be there in three minutes. I walked in, like you have to wait and I'm like, I have a plane to catch. I've salt down my hair. So Brad's like, I'm gonna find someone, calls another salon. He said, we're gonna have lunch and you're gonna have your hair washed this place in an hour. I was like, okay, drops me off. And he realizes he left his computer, left his computer at The True Food. We're having lunch, and we're in Nashville. So he goes to get his computer. And he's like, hey, just walk over. I'm at this restaurant next door. And I was like, all right, it was not our plan, was not all we had planned for that day, we're gonna do (inaudible) a the airport, and I go there and this guy sits down next to us. And we're there for half an hour and a woman walks by and she's like, your hair is so beautiful. Now it just got washed. I didn't even let them blow it out. Like, this was like, I gotta go. And I was like, oh, thank you so much. And then the guy next to next to us. He says a compliment. We start talking. He had just lost his wife two weeks ago. He's like looking for a place to live. He's trying to change his life. It was the most weird thing that it's been to soon it has been one week since it happened so I have no idea it's gonna come from him. I'm like, there. We were supposed to be there for him that day, or there's something coming from this because you don't call four salons just to get a hair wash and end up leaving a computer at True Food and meeting a random person for nothing. But I find people tend to get a rush and realize things are happening and they shouldn't be doing it. And they don't take the time to have those little moments. So I love hearing what came from that. Jill, I'm sure it's not been linear either. But I feel like you know you were in fitness and then you're a fitness business and you really have been like going down the fitness business as you said. Also, though, I remember a time when you're like I like my business has been me and a couple of people and I got to watch you change that. And so I want to hear more about that because you are one of the first people after I did this podcast I heard you talk about the as-if principle and I feel like you really live by that and Be it till you see it. It's kind of that as-if principle. So can you talk about that transformation there? Jill Coleman 25:05  Yeah, I will say it has been like fairly linear. So similar to Danny having a fitness brand, and realizing and I hate this word because it's so trendy, but like realizing that mindset is just such a huge piece of the fitness transformation. And really, really just me getting out of the obsessive sort of dieting, I just felt out of my integrity, like giving people meal plans, and it's similar to Danny. So people within a couple of years of me starting Jill Fit in 2010 I was still working full time. But within a couple of years, people were like, how are you doing what you're doing? And I was like, well, I don't really know. But I guess I can like help you if you want to start a blog. So it kind of just started like that. And then over the years, I started finding myself just feeling way more interested in learning business than continuing to learn fitness and nutrition. And I still obviously value that. But I started really just going down the business rabbit hole, and it kind of became just this personal brand. I mean, you know, where it was more of a lifestyle, people were like, oh, Jill's fitness business, like it kind of was this big, you know, sort of melting pot of a lot of different things. But in in that at that point, especially going through divorce, infidelity moving across the country. One of the things that I realized during that time was that while I didn't have control over what my spouse was doing, what he was thinking, what he was going through, I always had control over my business. Like, you know, I had control over this thing. If I worked harder, I made more money. If I got better at it, I made more money, I was able to financially leave my marriage. And that became a huge why for me, because a lot of women want to leave their marriage if they're going through something like that, but can't financially. So I remember when I decided to leave. In 2015, I was driving across country from North Carolina to a new place I had gotten in Los Angeles and the first night I was, and I've told this story on the podcast, but the first night I was in St. Louis and it was like the worst day of my life. I left it like five in the morning, said goodbye to my husband at the time, and was like literally just going to start a new life. I drove 16 hours, like no radio, no music, like, I was crying the whole time pretty much, get to St. Louis, like nine o'clock at night. And I remember being like, God, this is the worst fucking day like this is the shittiest day in my life. If I can even find five things to be grateful for on the shittiest day, then this isn't that bad. And it was tough. But I was like, yeah, and all of it was front it was all forward facing it was like everyone I'm going to meet in Los Angeles, the opportunities that are going to be there what I can do with my business. And one of them was the fact that I was financially secure enough to be able to leave and not only leave, but moved to Los Angeles, where the rent is crazy, and, and all that kind of stuff. So for me, that started this whole feeling of like, this is the why in my business, we work mostly with women. So I'm like, this is where the business coaching ties in. So I don't want to be your divorce, you know, coach, this, I want to be your personal development coach, I want to be that person who gives you a life raft, when you're in that moment where you need to make shit happen. And so for me that really kind of started that trajectory. But to your point, those first few years in L.A., single dating for the first time since I was 18. So you know, I'm like, I remember first, first time getting on a dating app. I downloaded like Tinder or something. And I literally thought people could see me like I was like, like, I was kinda like, can they see me right now? I just have no idea. So. So (inaudible) I'm like, what are they seeing right now? So a year later, of course, Danny moved out. And then you know, for a year we just kind of fogged around, we were still working at the time, but we were trying to figure shit out. And so for me, the business was not my priority. I was like, well, we just have this thing going over here making enough money to keep it going. But it really wasn't my passion at that time. But then pandemic hit. And at the beginning of the pandemic, it was such a strange time for online business owners because I was thinking, shit we're, we're not gonna make this. No one have any money. No one can buy coaching. You know, like all these like sort of luxury, you know, purchases are going to be out the door. The opposite happened for me. So within, I would say, six to 12 months, by early 2021, I was up to my eyeballs in one-on-one coaching. And I had never wanted to start a business where I would just be another quote personal trainer, but be online and bbe on Zoom for eight hours a day. I was like on Zoom like eight hours a day, four days a week. And I remember saying to myself, Jill, you're just right back in the gym, like this is just a different version. And at that point, I realized that I needed to scale and I needed to figure this out. I had always been just go go go go go. I had to slow down. And you know, what's the phrase like take a step back, take two steps forward. And at that point, yeah, we started growing the team and I started to really just like stepping into leadership and you're referring to the as-if principle which is actually a book by Richard Wiseman. I love this book so much. And at that time, I was like alright, if I want a different business model, and at the time my mentor was James Wedmore. He's still my mentor. But I remember I went to an event and he was speaking at it, it was our first mastermind event, and he was talking about his journey to, he has a $12-million business, but he's talking about his journey from and he's explaining all the things he does. And I'm like, this guy has the exact same business model as me. Like he does courses, he does coaching, he does group offers, he does, you know, all these kinds of things. The only difference is he's made different decisions. Although that he's not smarter than me. He's maybe doing it a little bit longer than me, but the only difference is he's made different decisions. So I was like, it's like, you know, if you think about his all same ingredients, he just has, you know, a wedding seven tiered wedding cake, and I got an easy bake oven cake, right? It's, it's sugar, butter, flour, like all the same things. Why couldn't I do that? For the next year or two, I made all of my decisions based on what would the $10 million business owner do? What would the seven-figure business owner do in this situation? So in that way, that's how I just went through and made decisions. And I didn't like making some of those decisions. So it was like, would a seven-figure business owner invest here or not? Yeah, they probably would. Would they hire someone and go through that? Yeah, they probably would. Would they outsource? Would they trust someone with this? Yeah, they probably would. Would they step into leadership here and have the conversation? Yeah, they probably would. And so I had to sort of project all of these things that I wasn't comfortable doing yet. But realizing that that next version of me would do that. And so I just made the decision based on that. And of course, you know, like, within a year, we were at seven figures and in scaling sense. So it works. Lesley Logan 31:26  Thank you for sharing that. Because that is I think it's really easy for people go, oh, they can do it. I can't do it. Like it's easier for them. And, and I love that you sat there like no, actually, we just made different decisions. Because I have, we all have the same ingredients. And so that's it's been it's been really, it's been really fun to watch. I've also benefited from, from your amazing education information, like Brad and I still like use everything that you've taught us in our business. And we almost hit seven figures last year, like so close, so close, which is, it's just amazing to be able to say that, especially with what has been going on the last four years, it's even now how we can grow our business is very different than 2020, it was much easier, we'll say it felt easier. Anyways, even though it was like scared to death. Okay, so, ladies, what are you most excited about right now, because I feel like you, you both have the best life that you get to do together, but you have these other projects that you're doing apart. And first of all, it takes a really great communicative relationship to like be able to keep coming together. I feel like it would've been really easy for you guys to have quit your your co-projects several times. So what are you most excited about right now?Danny-J Johnson 32:37  I actually want to touch on that. Because we have we've had, of course over the years, you know, people who want to do business coaching and or who we have business coach and who want to do a podcast and we've had, and even an episode on people who've asked us should I have a podcast partner? And both Jill and I have answered this no. Which is hilarious, because it's been such an amazing thing for us. But I think we know that what we have is really unique. But we're also very open in like Jill has her, her brand and her business, I have mine. And we have also chosen to make this work. And it's not easy. It's not easy to make two schedules come together. It's not easy to like I don't live in L.A. anymore. There's a lot of changes that have happened in both of our businesses and our personal lives and, and sometimes when you work with a partner and I had a business partner when I started this Sweaty Betties, and I was really excited about the brand. And I had a big vision for where I wanted to go. And she was not on board with that. And then she went through some personal stuff and it fell apart. And that broke my heart. And that was one thing that I remember thinking I never want to go in business with anyone again. And so this has been a really conscious, for lack of a better word, like conscious relationship, Jill and I had. And just having the communication of going. And one thing that's great about our partnership in this is we pick up the slack when the other person has something going on, you know, and we've, we've also been really flexible with how The Best Life looks. We've gone, like, we don't always have to be on the same episode. We can have solo episodes, we can have one person interviewing and the other person not show up. And so that flexibility has allowed us to be consistent because the hardest thing and you I'm sure you've seen this with podcasting is consistency, to show up every week and to publish every week is really freaking hard, especially when it's not like openly making money or there's not a direct payoff. It takes a long time and it takes a lot of momentum to get going. So it's funny that we say not to have a partner when we I think we have probably one of the most ideal partnerships when it comes to working together. But to be honest, what I'm most excited about is just the fact that I'm fucking excited about anything again. I had a really rough couple of years. My mom passed away and then I went through some robberies and I really like got stuck in an interesting place. I would honestly say a lot of it was PTSD. And I, I recently started some ketamine therapy about two months ago. And I got on with a, I did like this integration session, which I didn't expect anything out of honestly, I've done a ton of therapy, I have a lot of different therapists. And so this was some lady that I don't know what her qualifications were. And I was kind of just rolling my eyes. But she made an interesting reflection back to me, when I was sharing about some things. And I, she said, I was in a deep freeze in there's fight, flight or freeze, right? When you go through, you know, different things. And I was like, yes, it felt like the most real thing she said, because I was really struggling with feeling stuck. And I've always been a person who can take action to do something. And yet, I felt like I couldn't move. Like I couldn't make decisions. I couldn't, I didn't have any thoughts in my fucking brain. And it was really, really upsetting to me, because the person who I know myself to be would do something, and yet, I felt like I couldn't do anything. And I was very, very stuck. And so I feel like I've been moving out of that taking baby steps, finally, feeling like I have some momentum. And so there's not anything in particular I'm excited about, I'm just like, excited that I feel like I have some momentum again. I'm definitely excited about the documentary, but I am kind of tampering my expectations on that. It's just something on the side. But I have been learning a lot the last couple of years, you know, working with different people on the back end. And so I've been really proud of myself on what I've learned and what I've built some where I haven't been as front-facing. And so yeah, I'm just excited. I'm excited to be excited again.Lesley Logan 36:40  I think that's that's actually a really cool thing to be xcited about, you know, so thank you for sharing that. I think a lot of people put pressure on themselves to be excited about one particular thing. So that's really cool. I have a girlfriend, who's an incredible doctor, who does ketamine therapies, and it is incredible what can happen. I'm glad you went with someone, I had a friend who tried to do it on her own. Don't do it on your own guys. With facilitator. Jill, what about you? Jill Coleman 37:06  So one of the things I'm excited about. So I know this is a little bit counterintuitive, but most of the stuff that I do talk about and that I'm excited about is the business stuff, especially at the leadership, I remember going to look at business owners who have like 10 people on their team. And I'm like, that's the worst. Like, I want to just go to Australia for a month and no one bother me and do all these meetings on my schedule. And of course, then I decided to scale. And now we have nine-person team. But I really gotten excited about stepping into that role. I think for a long time, I really loved being a solopreneur and being able to go from idea to implementation in like a couple of hours. And you know, we can still do that to a certain degree. But, you know, I have someone who's like, the head of operations in the company is like, hey, I need this thing. And I'm like, what are you talking about? That's in two weeks, like, what, what, like, I used to just do that right before I would do it. So it's definitely forcing me to step up as a leader. And when it comes to entrepreneurship, I know that a lot of people are like, it's so crazy, it's so chaotic, you never know what's gonna happen, or like, they feel like it's really risky. I've never been someone who has taken a lot of risks, to be honest. Like, even when I left my corporate job, I still pretty much was able to, like, just replace what I was making in person with my online business. So I was never that person who's like, I want to sleep on my friend's couch for six months, while I'm getting it. Like I've never been that person, I was like, I need to have cash on the side, I need to have plenty of, you know, savings and stuff like that. But one of the things I'm really excited about is we've just been talking about (inaudible) the business, if we really want to scale, right, like if we want to scale, for example, James went from 2 million to 10 million in a year. And I'm like how, though, like, how did that even happen, like logistically? And I don't think that it's possible to think your way to that level of scale. I think you have to input something different. And this is where the person development side of business comes in. Who am I showing up as? Right? Like, what am i What's the block that we were talking before we turn on the mic about the big leap? I think one of the big things that I'm sort of going through personally is just like what does the next version of Jill look like? Because the next version of Jill, the JillFit will just be the effect of that it will just be the result of me stepping into a new level of leadership. And so that's really what I'm focused on this year is like, what does that look like? And I might have to get uncomfortable again, one of the things that I love that Brendon Burchard says he says some success is the biggest deterrent to more success. So I think it's really easy. When you have a level of success, you're like I'm good here. It's harder to be like, why would I want to get uncomfortable again? And so I think for me, it's not going to be a logistical like okay, just more ad spend, a little more ad spend. But it can't just be that it's going to have to be a massive, you know, ego death, it's going to have to be a massive shift. And so that's really what I think I'm sort of up against and I've been a little bit reluctant to go there. But I think that's the only way that we sort of that I can get to the next level of business. It's not going to be about more ad spend doing the same thing, just doing it more it's going to be a completely different version. Lesley Logan 39:57  Yeah, I understand that. I was realizing I wasn't loving, like, the business has grown but where I was in this little leader and Brad's the CEO of our company, but like, as the visionary person, I wasn't actually spending a lot of time in the vision of the future. And so I was feeling very stuck. And I was looking at my schedule it's like, well, of course, I'm stuck. I'm working with the schedule that I had with the business that we had. And we've grown it and I, this schedule has to change. And so I was calling it my dream schedule. And my, one of the coaches we've worked with, Corinne, was like, so you believe dreams come true. And so you can call it a dream schedule, because you believe dreams come true. But if your team doesn't believe that, then they might think this is something far off in the future. So you might want to change the word. So I said, this is my intentional schedule, and I expect it to be in place as soon as possible. And it completely shifted how they implemented it. And it's been really exhausting. I feel like every team meeting is about my schedule, it starts to feel like a little narcissistic. But the thing is, is that if my schedule can't allow me to step into the person I have to be as the leader, then I can't change the business. I can't, it's not. And I know it sounds so like simple as like, let's say the schedule, but it's true. It's like how I spend my time will affect the business. And so it has to be that so we're, I'm in a similar ego death, and it's the most uncomfortable. It's not fun. I just like sometimes I'm like, maybe I should just go back to teaching. Okay, I really would love to talk to girls forever. And I wish we could have a Vegas party. Brad was like, I have to sell this. I said, oh, I have an interview with Brad and Danny-J tomorrow, he's like, oh, are they coming over? And I was like, I was like, babe, I was like, we don't really do in-person podcasts, so no, but I guess they could have if they both were here. He was a little disappointed that you weren't coming to the house. So we're gonna take a brief break and then find out where people can find you, follow you and work with you. Lesley Logan 39:57  All right, ladies, where can they listen to The Best Life? Where can they follow each of you? Danny-J Johnson 41:46  Oh, my gosh, best life. They go to thebestlifepodcast.com all our episodes are there, of course on all of the platforms, Spotify, and on iTunes and I don't know where else you would listen to podcasts. But wherever else you would. I'm sure we're there and Instagram @thebestlifepodcast and then personally, I am @dannyjdotcom, on Instagram, that's probably the best way to find me, it's D-A-N-N-Y (like a boy) -J-D-O-T-C-O-M. Jill Coleman 42:10  Yeah, and so same thing, The Best Life podcast, on Instagram, I will say like, we do me Monday. So if you guys love memes, they're always relatable. Make sure you're following The Best Life podcast then on Instagram I'm JillFit and then just jillfit.com, JillFit in all the places. Lesley Logan 42:25  Okay. Y'all go follow, I promise you I love, I love both. All of your personal Instagrams and The Best Life brings me so much joy. Okay, so bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. This is those inspirational but the actionable things people can do. What do you have for us?Danny-J Johnson 42:46  Go ahead, Jill. Jill Coleman 42:47  Oh, I gotta go first this time. Yeah, so actually, I mean, if people are really into this, and I'm sure you've mentioned this before, but the as-if principle for sure. Like that's like, that really is my Bible. Because here's the deal. And you know, this, if you listen to this podcast with Lesley, you get it that there's going to be a gap between where you feel comfortable and where you know, you need to go. And I'm a very, like, logical person. So for me, I'm always just like, okay, what's the what's the action item here? What's the way that I can sort of step into that new version of myself, even when I'm still scared? And really picturing so for me, it's Oprah like that, just like I always go, like, what would Oprah do, like, so think about the person that either you want to become or the person you look up to who has the, the quote-unquote, success that you want, and really sort of filter your decisions through what you believe that they would do. And so for me, that's made all of the difference. So that actually closes the gap. And sometimes I'll make a decision and like, run away into a corner, like hide, because I'm like, Oh, God, I just said I was going to do that. But I put myself on the hook. And what happens when you put yourself on the hook to do things that are scary, is you watch yourself actually do them and go through the scariest part, and then you get through it. And then you have now a show of evidence that you can do hard things, and it boosts your self-efficacy. And then you can do more hard things because you have a show of evidence that you got through and you survived. And so I think there's something really important about people he's talking about get out of your comfort zone. It's like, cool, but how. And to me, this has been a very tactical step and a very tactical way to look at like, how do you get out of your comfort zone? If you want a different reality, right, you need to change to change. And so for me, that's been so simple, not always easy, by the way. But especially in business, I would say this is the easiest thing. You know, when it comes to health and fitness. I think we if we try to do it in health and fitness, it's like, what would that fit person do? They'd go to the gym. And I'm like, yeah, it doesn't have the same excitement to me. I'm like, yeah, I know. I know they would but like, but in business, you have to figure out like, where do you want to go? And for me, like that's the vision is like, I really want to step into leadership, not because I, for me, part of the reason of scaling the business was because I wanted a new skill set like I was I've been doing this thing for a long time. And so I think if you truly want that next level version, you can't just wish and hope and think and dream and make the vision board, you got to actually take inspired action. And so this has been a very simple way for me to do that. Lesley Logan 45:46  Yeah, that's good. Danny-J Johnson 45:11  I don't really have anything to add, except I want to just kind of tack this on to everything Joe said, and something you guys both mentioned was the ego death, I think when we are attached to who we were, or to how people are used to seeing us, like you had asked early on, were you scared when we had an evolution are we afraid that people are going to, you know, pull us back into that box or get mad that we've changed, you gotta let go of that on yourself, right, you're beating yourself up for wanting to change or be different, you have to be different. So that as-if principle is beautiful, like, who would the person be, and that person might be someone else who's not who you are right now. And you have to be able to let go of who you are to become the person you want to be. So that ego death is big, and it can be painful, and it can be scary. But in order to be different, you have to be different. And you got to let go. So kill your ego and kill the old version of yourself. So you can be the person you're meant to be or you want.Jill Coleman 46:05  You also need to like own it, too, you know, Danny and, like, shared on the podcast that, you know, it's humbling to share that you're the person who you love the most in the world cheated on you. Like, that's very humbling. But in order for us to be able to talk about that publicly, we had to be, get right with it. Right, we had to get right with it. Because then we're not available for the peanut gallery. We're not available for people to say, well, did you work on it enough like and just everything that people want to say. And it's like, we got it. So I think there is a lot of personal development that has to happen. If you do want to shift because you go, I'm actually good. And I'm also good with this next version. And so you own it, and then you can step into it a lot easier. Does that make sense? So like, you know, for us, I wasn't going to talk about my husband's affair until I knew what the fuck, I thought about it, you know, and so I think I see people online, maybe sharing too soon, or maybe just sharing for likes or attention or whatever. I think that if you're ready to take on that new version of you, you have to get right with it first, if you're constantly having to justify your choices to other people, person who needs the most justification is you, like you're still not on board with it. And so I think stepping into that next level, you have to be okay, like Danny said, just shedding that previous version. And people online may see you as that person still. And you gotta be like, cool, bye. Lesley Logan 47:23  Yeah, thank you both for saying that. Tiffany Haddish wrote in her book, because she does a lot of comedy about her life. And she did a joke about her mom, and somebody heckled at her said something it was on stage. And she felt like, anger, sadness, some seven, she realized she's like, I'm not right with that yet. So anything I talk about on stage, I better be right with otherwise, the peanut gallery is gonna get me. And if I'm right with it, it doesn't really matter what they say. Because, like, they don't matter to me, right? And so yeah, it's, it's, it's a very interesting thing. It's hard to do. I remember, you know, when I was homeless and year, well, it's not 11 years, it's kind of crazy. I don't want to tell anybody that was like couchsurfing. And tell. I got to figure out like, what I was going through, what I needed to do, what I need to change. And now when I talk about it, it's like, it doesn't matter if anyone were to say anything. It's like, look, that was one of the things my life came from was the best thing that ever happened for me. But at the time, if anyone had said anything to me, I would have probably ran back to my ex. Because he did say I could live there. And I was like, I'm not living there. So I've had to keep it private, so that I could protect myself in that transition that transformation. Ladies, I fucking love you both so much. You bring me so much joy. I think about you a ton and the true Aquarius I am I think about you in my head and don't always tell you, so just know you are on my heart and my mind often. Thank you so much for being here. Everyone, please make sure you follow Jill and Danny and The Best Life. Take a listen wherever you listen to this podcast and share this with a friend, share with a friend who needs to hear it. You know, that is one of the best ways we can help people it's just like giving them that little nudge of the thing that they were talking about. We could be the ad based on the conversation you're already having. So give that give that a share. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 49:09  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Lesley Logan 49:38  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 2583: Explore the unexpected wisdom turtles offer about healthy living in Jill Coleman's article. Discover how adopting a slow and steady approach, valuing purposeful movement, and wisely taking risks can profoundly impact your well-being and success. Dive into these insights to enrich your life's journey. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2012/08/13/turtles/ Quotes to ponder: "Slow and steady wins the race. It's about a lifelong commitment to healthy, tight nutrition and consistent training." "Move with purpose. Rest as needed." "Cautiously stick your neck out." Episode references: Metabolic Effect: https://www.jadeteta.com/blog/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 2583: Explore the unexpected wisdom turtles offer about healthy living in Jill Coleman's article. Discover how adopting a slow and steady approach, valuing purposeful movement, and wisely taking risks can profoundly impact your well-being and success. Dive into these insights to enrich your life's journey. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2012/08/13/turtles/ Quotes to ponder: "Slow and steady wins the race. It's about a lifelong commitment to healthy, tight nutrition and consistent training." "Move with purpose. Rest as needed." "Cautiously stick your neck out." Episode references: Metabolic Effect: https://www.jadeteta.com/blog/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jill Coleman (AKA Jill Fit) a fitness industry leader and business coach, shares valuable insights on staying connected with clients, niche health coaching, prioritizing client outcomes over deliverables, and differentiating services. Jill is a fitness industry veteran and also an in-demand business coach for health, fitness, and nutrition professionals looking to take their business online and scale it. What is really unique about Jill as a business coach is that she is still working in the health and fitness space as a coach herself, creating and selling programs to her clients. This means that she still has her finger on the pulse of what health consumers are looking for, how they behave, and how they make buying decisions. In this episode we chat about Jill's journey to success in the coaching industry, getting in the trenches with your clients, the difference between a good marketer and a good coach, the idea of proving your method and so much more. It should come as no surprise that with Jill's expertise in both fitness coaching and business coaching, this episode is packed with tons of important insights. Grab your pen and paper and let's dive in with Jill Coleman! Episode Overview: 0:00 Introducing Jill Coleman 2:12 Jill Coleman's Fitness Industry Journey 4:58 Importance of Staying Consumer-Facing in Coaching 9:56 Market Saturation and Specificity in Online Coaching 29:18 Programming and Problem-Solving 37:53 Crafting Compelling Sales Copy 46:44 The Value of High-Ticket Offerings 49:32 Understanding Consumer Behavior 52:42 Establishing a Signature Offer 54:56 Finding Your First Clients 57:36 Building Your Body of Work 1:05:23 Embracing Confidence and Hubris 1:11:02 Transitioning to Certification 1:15:50 Creating a Program 1:22:23 The Journey of Scaling a Business Connect with Jill at: Website: jillfit.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/jillfit YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/linmull   ---   Health Coach Radio is a podcast that dives deep into the world of health and fitness coaching, brought to you by Primal Health Coach Institute, founded by the renowned Mark Sisson. Join your hosts, Erin and Laura, both proud graduates of Primal Health Coach Institute, as they share inspiring stories and expert insights on elevating your coaching practice.   If you're curious about transforming your life through the power of health and/or fitness coaching, visit primalhealthcoach.com/hcr/. Discover the transformative journey of Primal living and explore how Primal Health Coach Institute can empower you to make a real impact on people's lives.

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 2559: Explore the transformative journey of self-acceptance with Jill Coleman from JillFit.com as she delves into the crucial relationship between mindset and physique. Discover how breaking the cycle of negative self-talk and developing a healthy self-image leads to not only personal happiness but also sustainable physical fitness. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2013/04/16/mind-first-body-second/ Quotes to ponder: "Work on your mindset before you work on your physique." "The mental aerobics that comes with shoulding ourselves discourages us from taking action toward real, lasting progress." "Free your energy and your mental space of the negative, so that you can actually garner the willpower necessary to make real, lasting change." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 2559: Explore the transformative journey of self-acceptance with Jill Coleman from JillFit.com as she delves into the crucial relationship between mindset and physique. Discover how breaking the cycle of negative self-talk and developing a healthy self-image leads to not only personal happiness but also sustainable physical fitness. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2013/04/16/mind-first-body-second/ Quotes to ponder: "Work on your mindset before you work on your physique." "The mental aerobics that comes with shoulding ourselves discourages us from taking action toward real, lasting progress." "Free your energy and your mental space of the negative, so that you can actually garner the willpower necessary to make real, lasting change." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

By now you've heard the cliché, “selling is service,” but it's easier said than done to believe it. Society has conditioned us all to think that selling is somehow sleazy or pushy, and even if you're able to make sales, somehow it feels a million times easier to sell another person's product than to ever sell your own. But if you want to help people, sooner or later you're going to have to talk about your product. In this episode, Jill Coleman interviews Jasmine Shea of The YES and Co. about how to make sales calls and truly believe in the service of selling your product. Jasmine shares valuable insights and strategies for conducting effective sales calls, emphasizing the importance of creating a supportive and structured environment during the call, where objections can be addressed and beliefs can be explored. Sales calls don't have to be the enemy—they're a powerful tool for building trust, understanding client needs, and facilitating a transformation that can change your clients' lives.   Connect with Jasmine: @theyesandco @jazzythings   Join Jill and the Movement Maestro at #BossUp: https://www.jillfitprograms.com/bossup   Get on the Interest List for FBA: https://jillfitfree.com/fba-waitlist/   Jill is a fitness professional and business coach who effectively made the transition from training clients in person and having no time to build anything else to training clients online and actually being more successful. Today, Jill helps other coaches to do the same.   Connect with me! Instagram: @jillfit | @fitbizu Facebook: @jillfit Website: jillfit.com

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 2535: Discover Jill Coleman's refreshing approach to body positivity in "Body Dissatisfaction" where she encourages women to embrace 'acceptance without resignation.' Through her personal experiences and coaching insights, Coleman navigates the dangerous waters of body dissatisfaction and promotes a healthier, guilt-free approach to self-improvement. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2012/02/16/body-dissatisfaction/ Quotes to ponder: "Learning 'acceptance without resignation' is a much gentler approach and also a just as effective tool when striving for body change." "Negative motivation (guilt, remorse, etc) rarely works." "You are worthy, and special and amazing RIGHT NOW." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 2535: Discover Jill Coleman's refreshing approach to body positivity in "Body Dissatisfaction" where she encourages women to embrace 'acceptance without resignation.' Through her personal experiences and coaching insights, Coleman navigates the dangerous waters of body dissatisfaction and promotes a healthier, guilt-free approach to self-improvement. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2012/02/16/body-dissatisfaction/ Quotes to ponder: "Learning 'acceptance without resignation' is a much gentler approach and also a just as effective tool when striving for body change." "Negative motivation (guilt, remorse, etc) rarely works." "You are worthy, and special and amazing RIGHT NOW." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the Coaches Compass, Mike is joined by Jill Coleman to discuss the ever-changing marketplace of nutrition and fitness coaching and what needs to change from a marketing standpoint to separate yourself as a coach. This is an insightful conversation about dialing in your message, standing out in a crowded space, and playing the long game to build a lasting and profitable business. Jill brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to the table and her marketing tactics are a breath of fresh air in the space. Give this episode a listen!Follow Jill - @jillfitJoin Six Figure FitnessGet 20% off any product from Legion Athletics! Use code POPFAM at https://www.legionathletics.comCured Nutrition is offering 15% off their products site wide! Try their Serenity Gummies or CBN Oil here - https://www.curednutrition.com/?rfsn=6745101.eee1d3Want 20% off any Organifi product? This is an exclusive offer for Mind Over Macros listeners. Simply go to organifi.com/popfam and save 20% off any of their amazing products like green juice, red juice, or gold juice!Click here to take advantage of this offer!------------------------------------------------Click here to apply for coaching!For some amazing resources and to be a part of a badass community, join our FB group HEREThe FREE personality assessment is now available online! Click here to take the assessment and find out what your personality tells us about the way you should be training and eating.Take the assessment here!To learn more about Neurotyping, visit www.neurotypetraining.comFollow Mike on IG at @coach_mike_millner

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 2488: Jill Coleman of JillFit.com dives into the transformative journey of dieting with her insightful guide on "The 5 Phases of Successful Dieting - Part 2". Coleman's approach demystifies the process of habit formation and adjustment, offering practical strategies for integrating new, sustainable habits while shedding the all-or-nothing mindset. Her methodical and relatable advice promises a roadmap to long-term success and ownership of one's health journey, making it a must-listen for anyone looking to make lasting changes. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2012/11/08/the-5-phases-of-successful-dieting/ Quotes to ponder: "The toughest moments are also the most transformative. Take the reigns at this point, and own your journey, own your results, own your future." "Consistency is what matters, and though you might not get it right every time, you are doing it 90%+ of the time and are starting to live the lifestyle." "Tight nutrition and consistent training are part of a feed-forward cycle. The more you do them, the easier it becomes to keep doing them." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 2487: Jill Coleman of JillFit.com unveils the predictable journey of dieting through the lens of her extensive experience in the fitness industry. Coleman's insights into the five phases of successful dieting offer a roadmap for navigating the highs and lows of dieting, emphasizing the importance of mental preparation and ownership of one's dieting journey. This episode promises valuable strategies for anyone looking to break the cycle of yo-yo dieting and achieve lasting health and fitness goals. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2012/11/08/the-5-phases-of-successful-dieting/ Quotes to ponder: "There's no miracle plan and understanding this up front allows us to ready ourselves mentally for the fact that we cannot rely on 'the plan,' but instead need to work IT." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 2463: Jill Coleman of JillFit.com shares her personal journey and strategies to overcome food FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out), emphasizing the importance of attitude and choice in managing food anxiety. Through relatable anecdotes and insights, Coleman invites readers to shift their perspective towards food, urging them to take control of their eating habits by choosing satisfaction over succumbing to environmental temptations. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jillfit.com/2013/11/09/food-fomo/ Quotes to ponder: "FOMO is a choice. Let other people be swayed by their environments. You make choices, for your own healthy lifestyle without circumstantial considerations." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, we've got the amazing Jill Coleman joining us to spill the beans on how to power up your business using good energy. No fancy tricks, just straightforward insights on how to turn your passion into success. Jill's got the lowdown on how channeling the right vibes can be the secret sauce to building a thriving business.Where to find the guest?http://jillfitfree.com/fba-waitlisthttps://www.instagram.com/jillfit/Learn more about www.MyCoachAi.comThis is the official partner of The CreateU Experience podcast. The first-ever platform that consolidates what coaches and businesses need to get more customers. By automating the repetitive tasks, leveraging algorithms, and optimizing communication to better deliver courses, memberships, and 1-on-1 coaching - www.MyCoachAi.com is here to support your growth.that consolidates what coaches and businesses need to get more customers. By automating the repetitive tasks, leveraging algorithms, and optimizing communication to better deliver courses, memberships, and 1-on-1 coaching - www.MyCoachAi.com is here to support your growth.

Jill Coleman shares 4 cardio myths Episode 2357: 4 Cardio Myths by Jill Coleman of JillFit on How to Train For Weight Loss Jill Coleman is a fitness instructor and blogger who created the popular exercise program Moderation 365. Her blog features helpful advice and experience about fitness and staying in shape, in addition to articles covering entrepreneurship and personal development. She is also the co-founder of Metabolic Effect.  The original post is located here: https://jillfit.com/2012/01/31/cardio-myths/ Visit Me Online at OLDPodcast.com Interested in advertising on the show? Visit https://www.advertisecast.com/OptimalHealthDailyDietNutritionFitness Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jill Coleman talks about how to become happy and improve your mood Episode 2916: Happiness: 5 Steps to Turn Around Your Bad Mood by Jill Coleman of Jill Fit on Becoming a Happier Person Jill Coleman is a fitness instructor and blogger who created the popular exercise program Moderation 365. Her blog features helpful advice and experience about fitness and staying in shape, in addition to articles covering entrepreneurship and personal development. She is also the co-founder of Metabolic Effect.  The original post is located here: https://jillfit.com/2012/06/08/happiness-turn-around-bad-mood/  Visit Me Online at OLDPodcast.com  Interested in advertising on the show? Visit https://www.advertisecast.com/OptimalLivingDaily Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I've got a fantastic guest on the podcast – none other than my friend and incredible coach, Jill Coleman! She's the brains behind the Fitness Nutrition Business brand, JillFit. In this episode, get ready for an engaging discussion as we dive into the mistakes we both made as newbie coaches, all with the goal of helping you dodge those same stumbling blocks. Whether you're a new coach or considering entering the fitness industry, this episode is an absolute must-listen tailored just for you.Find show notes at bicepsafterbabies.com/293Follow me on Instagram and Tiktok!Links:Jill Coleman's website and podcastbicepsafterbabies.com/secretbicepsafterbabies.com/insider