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Welcome to Scrappy ABM – your source for groundbreaking approaches to ABM that don't break the bank. ABM shouldn't cost $200K in technology to even get started. If you want to get started with ABM or make your program better without a massive budget, you're in the right place. Each week, you'll hear from some of the brightest minds in the marketing world who are redefining ABM, achieving incredible results with untraditional methods, limited resources, and a whole lot of creativity. This isn't a show about how much you can spend on fancy tech or overhyped tools. Instead, it's about celebrating creative problem-solving and the scrappiness it takes to get ABM right. We'll dive into how these marketing leaders built robust ABM strategies with limited resources, revealing the actionable insights that led to their biggest wins. So, if you're a marketer ready to challenge the status quo, or an entrepreneur looking to scale your business through efficient and effective marketing strategies, Scrappy ABM is the show for you. Get ready to discover ABM strategies that are lean, impactful, and utterly transformative. Remember, it's not about the budget, it's about the mindset. Let's get scrappy!

Mason Cosby


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    Pick One Account, Prove It, Scale It: Executive ABM Without the Lip Service (with Chris Moody from Demandbase) | Ep. 222

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 13, 2025 25:55


    Scrappy ABM host Mason Cosby sits down with Chris Moody from Demandbase to confront why so many ABM programs have failed inside B2B organizations that “tried ABM” over the last five or six years. The conversation centers on executives who launch impressive strategy decks and shiny new initiatives without changing real behavior, staying close to sales, or aligning on who does what when the rubber hits the road. Chris calls out the pattern of marketing introducing “ABM” as a new object to sellers who have always focused on high-value accounts, and why that tension stalls programs before they start.ㅤTogether, Mason and Chris walk through starting with one account, proving a different, more coordinated way of working, and then scaling what actually works. They dig into buying groups, resource allocation, dedicated ABM leadership, and why celebration of wins matters. Most importantly, they offer a human test for alignment: whether sales would actually choose to spend time with marketing outside the conference room.ㅤ

    B2G ABM: “Webinars Are Completely Bottom of Funnel” (with Michelle Hanley) | Ep. 221

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 12, 2025 23:13


    Scrappy ABM brings a focused look at business to government—B2G in the context of an ABM program. Host Mason Cosby sits down with Michelle Hanley to map the nuances of payment processing for governments across state and local. With a finite group of agencies, shifting election cycles, and long six to 24-month timelines, buying groups change and risk aversion is real. Michelle lays out a play that flips “normal B2B” on its head: events to meet new people and get contacts, email as the day-to-day touchpoint, and webinars that are completely bottom of funnel—often a sniff test for open opportunities. Listen for practical talk on RFPs, contact harvest, segmentation by state or city, stage one opportunities, and why “if it ain't broke, don't fix it” still shapes adoption—while teams have to get scrappy with budget.ㅤ

    Measuring Success at Every Stage of Your ABM Program | Ep. 220

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 10, 2025 10:03


    “Where are the freaking meetings?” It's the question every marketer hears — and the one that defines real accountability in B2B marketing. On this solo episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby breaks down how to measure success across every stage of an ABM program so you can focus on the right goals at the right time.ㅤRather than chasing meetings too early, Mason introduces the account progression model, a six-stage framework — from awareness through opportunity — that helps marketers understand where buyers really are in their journey. He shows how to align metrics with intent, track engagement meaningfully, and report results that earn credibility with both sales and executives.ㅤIf you've ever struggled to connect marketing activity with pipeline, this walkthrough gives a clear, practical map for knowing what to measure, when to report it, and how to prove your impact at every stage.ㅤ

    ICP First: Email, Geo-Targeted Ads, and Events That Move Deals (with Nick Clark from Basis Technologies) | Ep. 219

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 6, 2025 22:33


    Scrappy ABM brings a practical playbook that doesn't break the bank as host Mason Cosby sits down with Nick Clark to focus on the workflow side of operationalizing an ABM program. The conversation centers on program orchestration—who reaches out at what time with what thing and why—and the underestimated scope of the work. You'll hear how ICP accounts shape targeting, how a documented workflow in Asana creates a white-glove ABM ecosystem with unique landing pages, forms, completion actions, targeted display ads, and curated email drips, and why starting simple proved out the path to a 24-email segmentation. The discussion gets specific on channel mix, geo-targeted ads around events, QR codes and vanity URLs in Ubers and Lyfts, alignment with sales, and measurement across Account Engagement (Pardot), Salesforce, and performance reports in Six Sense to see ICP accounts move through deeper stages faster.ㅤ

    Build ABM with What You've Got Today | Ep. 218

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 3, 2025 34:37


    Scrappy ABM shares a repurposed conversation where Mason Cosby is interviewed by Rohan Karunakaran on Founder Led. Mason started in sales, learned account based marketing by selling to a very specific niche, and built programs using a really good list, a really good value proposition and offer, and a basic CRM and a marketing automation platform. He launched Scrappy ABM as a side hustle, did about $300,000 in sales in three weeks, and now runs about $200,000 a month with a team of about 14. The conversation covers product market fit, the account progression model (awareness through reengagement), the 4D framework (data, distribution, destination, direction), and a six-hour workshop that delivered 300 slides and eight templates with a 9.4 out of 10 rating. Discover how LinkedIn, podcasts, and webinars drive discovery, why bangers should be recycled, and how to use negotiation levers to keep pricing cards face up.ㅤRohan Karunakaran hosts Founder Led, where he dives into the minds of today's successful entrepreneurs. He first connected with Mason Cosby on LinkedIn and invited him to share the story of starting Scrappy ABM, launching it when he just had his daughter, and the opportunity ahead for account based marketing and business building.ㅤ

    Guide Buyers Through Their Own Funnel (with Steven Tripp) | Ep. 217

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 30, 2025 24:24


    Scrappy ABM spotlights practical playbooks that don't break the bank, and Mason Cosby welcomes Steven Tripp to focus on what actually moves revenue when sales and marketing aren't on the same page. Steven's stance is simple: pick the right accounts, prioritize first-party engagement data, and be brave enough to let buyers pull themselves through their own funnel. He lays out how a 100% inbound motion can evolve without jumping back on the expensive ad hamster wheel, why de-anonymizing late works when HubSpot lights up, and how ungating content led to a 5x traffic jump. You'll hear the SAP “sunset” story—one search a month, one perfect lead—and how a matrixed buyer's-journey approach ensures the right content shows up on Google and YouTube at every point. The punchline: marketing's “product” isn't leads—it's SQAs—and alignment gets real when teams listen, act on behavioral signals, and measure what sales actually values.ㅤ

    Do More with Less: Turning Pressure into Performance | Ep. 216

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 27, 2025 9:26


    “Do more with less.” Every marketer has heard it — and probably rolled their eyes. But on Scrappy ABM, Mason Cosby flips that phrase from frustration to fuel. Drawing from his experience generating $25 million in direct revenue — and leading a team responsible for over $100 million — Mason breaks down exactly how to turn limited resources into real growth.ㅤHe exposes why overloaded task lists kill impact, how to identify what truly drives results, and the mindset shift needed to earn more resources by proving you can deliver greater results with fewer programs. This episode delivers a clear, repeatable framework for diagnosing what's working, aligning programs to measurable goals, and building a marketing machine that sustains predictable growth.ㅤ

    Scale things that don't scale (with Sidney Waterfall from OpenBrand) | Ep. 215

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 23, 2025 28:13


    Scrappy ABM brings practical playbooks without breaking the bank as Mason Cosby digs in with Sidney Waterfall from OpenBrand. The conversation opens on poor targeting—often the reason ABM fails—and moves straight into a vertical-specific motion with ABM, high touch, and a land and expand play. Sidney shares how using product data as a “cheat code” helped build and tier a thousand-account list—Premier ~38 and Tier 1 ~100—guided by category, product and data coverage, revenue potential, white space, and churn and retention signals.ㅤThe team audits the list, checks in every six months, and adapts to the economy, overseas production, and renewals. On engagement, they start simple and clean with LinkedIn and outbound, validate that the audience is there, and test problem content, helpful how-to, and industry data and insights. Measurement focuses on hand raisers, target account website engagement, and a single meeting goal across the org—brand vs. demand connected in one ecosystem.ㅤ

    Why Account-Based Beats Persona-Based Every Time | Ep. 214

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 20, 2025 11:58


    The only thing worse than getting no customers is getting the wrong ones. In this solo episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby breaks down how misaligned targeting can destroy profit, waste marketing effort, and frustrate every department in the business. He reveals why most B2B programs fail when they focus only on personas, and how to shift toward account-based targeting rooted in real data, not wishful thinking.Mason walks through building a Best Customer Profile (BCP)—a data-backed approach that replaces idealistic wish lists with clear evidence of which customers are actually happy, profitable, and sustainable. Using examples from his own experience, he outlines how to partner with finance, customer success, and sales to define “best,” prioritize accounts, and align your marketing programs with revenue and profit.

    “Start with One Use Case, Not an ABM Maturity Model” (with Myles Madden from One Password) | Ep. 213

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 16, 2025 29:31


    Leadership hears “ABM” and brings years of baggage. Scrappy ABM flips the script by cutting the re-education and moving straight to results. Host Mason Cosby welcomes Myles Madden to break down how he built ABM from the ground up—again and again—by starting with a sales-led use case, running a quiet pilot with a few reps, and only socializing the wins after pipeline appears.ㅤMyles lays out the pattern: meet with a tenured sales leader, ask for the one use case that's driving revenue right now, pull five to ten real accounts, review the opportunities, and become an expert through Gong calls and external reading. From there, distribute across many channels for coverage, go deep on one or two “big bat” channels, and map one really good piece of content per stage—then validate with data. Simplicity wins: show pipeline amount and count, plus efficiency like cost to acquire $1 of pipeline, and keep teams aligned so messaging doesn't drift.ㅤ

    $2M in 2 Years Through Account-Based Podcasting | Ep. 212

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 13, 2025 56:26


    Most agencies are stuck in a cycle of referrals, one-off Google searches, or being carried by a few loyal clients. That reality often leaves growth out of your control, pricing in a race to the bottom, and revenue unpredictable. In this live episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby sits down with Joseph Lewin, head of podcast strategy at Scrappy ABM, to reveal how agencies can flip that script through account-based podcasting.ㅤWith data, real client results, and behind-the-scenes process, Mason and Joseph walk through the exact steps to generate conversations with best-fit decision makers, build strategic relationships, and predictably drive revenue. This isn't about chasing downloads or fluffy brand metrics—it's about creating $2M in sales within two years by building a system that works even if you start with zero listeners.ㅤ

    Aligning Teams Around Customer Cohorts for Real Revenue Impact (with Ryan George) | Ep. 211

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 9, 2025 20:31


    Scrappy ABM is all about practical playbooks that don't break the bank. In this conversation, host Mason Cosby welcomes Ryan George, CMO of Docupace, to break down how cohort analysis reshapes both sales strategy and long-term customer expansion.ㅤRyan explains how a board-driven request turned into a framework that now guides sales focus, ABM campaigns, SDR targeting, and even M&A decisions. Together, Mason and Ryan explore the balance of quantitative data and qualitative insights, the challenges of execution and alignment, and why sometimes the most important outcome is knowing where not to invest.ㅤListeners will hear first-hand how Docupace built four customer cohorts, used them to inform revenue forecasting and cross-sell strategy, and applied the same lens to merger evaluations. The discussion shows how cohort analysis can simplify a complex market and provide a clear cipher for resource allocation, product journeys, and long-term planning.ㅤ

    Why leadership doesn't take marketing seriously | Ep. 210

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2025 11:09


    Leadership isn't taking marketers seriously because the conversation isn't happening in their language. On this episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby lays out a practical framework to shift how marketing programs are presented to align with executive priorities. Drawing from his experience generating $25 million in tangible revenue and leading a team responsible for more than $100 million, Mason explains how to reframe your work around six core leadership concerns: sustained organizational growth, efficiency, profit, attracting and retaining top talent, fostering a positive culture, and continued innovation.ㅤListeners will walk away with clear, repeatable ways to prove marketing's value, tie programs to measurable business outcomes, and protect budgets when inevitable cuts arise.ㅤ

    Why your B2B marketing is failing | Ep. 209

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 2, 2025 10:26


    Mason Cosby, host of Scrappy ABM, shares the tale of two marketers: one stuck on the treadmill of being overworked, underappreciated, and afraid of being fired — and another thriving with creativity, freedom, and consistent results. Drawing from real career lessons, Mason lays out the five biggest reasons most B2B marketing programs fail and what it takes to escape the cycle of frustration.ㅤFrom leadership alignment to sales buy-in, from consistent targeting to reporting on the right metrics, Mason highlights the shift from task management to system building. These lessons aren't hypothetical — they've led to promotions, freedom, and even a tenfold income increase. For marketers who feel like they're running in circles, this episode offers a practical playbook for building repeatable systems that create engagement, pipeline, and revenue.ㅤ

    What the HECK Is Rev Ops? People, Process, Tech—Then AI (with Cliff Simon from Polaris) | Ep. 208

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 29, 2025 18:39


    ICP vs. Target Audience: Stop Pushing the Rock Uphill (with Jeff Hardison) | Ep. 207

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 25, 2025 32:50


    On Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby sits down with Jeff Hardison, CRO at CaseMark, to cut through tool-first thinking and get back to the fundamentals: pick the ideal customer profile that buys, retains, and expands—then run ABM to get more of your best. Jeff draws a sharp line between ICP and a target audience (the hunch you're “pushing up a hill”) and shows why alignment breaks when leadership confuses the two.ㅤThey map old-school account-based playbooks to today's stack, using intent, tasteful personalization by industry or growth stage, and PLG motions that convert free usage into organization-wide adoption—the classic “come over the top” expansion. From Calendly's surprising webinar signal (“please self-promote the product more”) to building lists with AI agents and wiring product + checkout data to measure PLG ABM, this conversation stays grounded in experiments, feedback, and outcomes.ㅤIf you're testing a new segment, scaling a hybrid PLG + sales motion, or correcting an over-automated program, this is a practical blueprint to run scrappy without breaking the bank.ㅤ

    What Is Account Based Marketing | Ep. 206

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 22, 2025 8:11


    Have you ever crushed your marketing goals, only to find sales lagging far behind—and then still gotten in trouble for it? Mason Cosby, founder of Scrappy ABM, has been there too. In this episode of Scrappy ABM, Mason shares how account-based marketing creates alignment across marketing, sales, and customer success so everyone wins together.ㅤWith over $25 million in sourced revenue generated from ABM in just three years, Mason breaks down a practical definition of account-based marketing that focuses on shared target accounts, best-fit customers, and building a unified strategy across teams. From why ABM is exclusive to B2B, to how to identify your most profitable and happiest customers, this episode gives you a clear, simple framework you can start applying today. And for quick buy-in? Mason even shares a toddler-friendly definition that reframes ABM as inviting only the best people to your party.ㅤ

    One-to-Many ABM that Doesn't Burn Cash (with Natalie Marcotullio) | Ep. 205

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 18, 2025 17:40


    Scrappy ABM brings together Mason Cosby and Natalie Marcotullio for a conversation that keeps ABM grounded in practice: build hyper-specific verticals, show buyers their future state with interactive demos, and measure success on pipeline.ㅤNatalie, Head of Growth and Product Marketing at Navattic, explains why one-to-many ABM works best when the product is visual and prospects can say, “suddenly it clicks.” From narrowing beyond G2 categories to stacking signals across LinkedIn ads, Slack alerts, and PLG activity, this episode highlights the fundamentals of focusing lists, consolidating signals, and ensuring ABM efforts don't burn cash.ㅤ

    The Old Way vs The Right Way | Ep. 204

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 15, 2025 49:12


    A slightly provocative title sets the tone: the old way versus the right way. On Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby brings together leaders who've been in the belly of the beast—people who built ABM programs at technology vendors and across startup, mid-market, and enterprise realities. The panel aligns on a clear definition: a B2B revenue strategy that aligns marketing, sales, customer success, and rev ops around a shared target account list that reflects best customers, with data-driven decision making.From pre-COVID tool stacks (Engagio→Demandbase, Terminus, Uberflip/PathFactory, Marketo, Salesforce, LinkedIn Campaign Manager, Google Ads) to unbundled, signal-driven programs, the group contrasts platform-led decisions with strategy-first programs. Costs spiraled—$200k+ in tools and team lift pushing some stacks to $910k—while teams chased account-level intent that often came from one contact or disappeared inside the ICP filter. Today's shift centers on signals, precision, and orchestration: pick the right accounts, design plays around triggers, personalize experiences, and measure contribution, not just source. The takeaway: get the foundations right, then add tech that plays nicely together.

    Make the Process the Accelerator, Not the Tool (with Josh Gainey) | Ep. 203

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 11, 2025 25:45


    SDR teams that were well fed by inbound are now shifting from qualification to outbound prospecting. On Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby sits down with Josh Gainey, the Go Market lead over at Kasm Technologies, to break down a practical outbound playbook: start with the right SDR hire profile, define who not to target, and align on an A / C / F grading scale that everyone—SDR and AE—buys into.Josh unpacks “freedom within a framework,” why the process should be the accelerator, not the tool, and how a simple rhythm across LinkedIn, Sales Navigator, ZoomInfo, Outreach, and Salesforce can book the right meetings without burning accounts. From first messages that hit the top three points to moving fast from LinkedIn to calendar, proof of concept momentum, and becoming a manager of managers, this conversation lays out what was awesome, what was hard, and the lessons teams can apply—whether inbound or outbound.

    Shockingly honest lessons: contractors, W2s, and turning down six–seven million | Ep. 202

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 8, 2025 44:32


    Scrappy ABM host Mason Cosby sits down with Nick Bennett on 1,000 Routes and tells the story behind a “little teeny tiny side hustle” that became “sold a million bucks” and then “another million” within months. Starting with a $25,000 win in March 2023 and a $150,000 deal that “backed out,” Mason lays out “project revenue,” the activation playbook, an $80,000 annual contract, and why “less is more” with “two service lines.” It's all inbound from LinkedIn and a podcast, plus “speaking engagements,” saying yes to interviews, and an “absurd number of webinars”—including 60 podcast interviews and 18 webinars in ~60 days that created over $2 million in pipeline.He gets “shockingly honest” about 120 hour weeks, a postpartum spouse editing podcasts, firing seven contractors, moving to W2s, and then learning seasonality and sales cycles. Mason explains why a debt free approach matters, how he's scaling out for a two-month paternity leave, and why he turned down six to seven million to stay focused on a mission: equip a million marketers with repeatable account-based playbooks by January 2035.Nick Bennett — host of 1,000 Routes. In this conversation, Nick steers the candid discussion on solopreneurship, scaling, contractors vs. W2, and the shift from “Mason the marketer” to “Mason the CEO.”

    Why High-Spend Customers Hold the Key to Growth (with Katie Yagodnik) | Ep. 201

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 4, 2025 21:30


    Scrappy ABM brings practical playbooks that don't break the bank. In this episode, host Mason Cosby sits down with Katie Yagodnik, founder of SFE Advisors, to focus on one of the most underutilized areas of revenue growth: the post-sales experience.While much of the market obsesses over CAC, Katie and Mason unpack the power of net revenue retention and why customer journeys after the sale are where long-term value is created. From segmentation strategies and digital adoption to habit formation and personalization, Katie shares how data, milestones, and feedback loops transform customer relationships. The conversation shows exactly how mapping behaviors and empowering users at the right moments leads to retention, expansion, and exponential growth.

    AI in ABM: Data, Distribution, Destination, and Direction | Ep. 200

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 1, 2025 33:08


    Scrappy ABM is all about practical playbooks that don't break the bank. In this special repurposed episode, host Mason Cosby shares his conversation from the Human-First AI Marketing Podcast by Avenue9 with Mike Montague.Together, they explore how account-based marketing is evolving in the age of AI. Mason breaks down his four-part framework—data, distribution, destination, and direction—and shows how artificial intelligence fits into each category. From identifying the best customers through firmographics and profitability reports, to analyzing transcripts with tools like Fathom, to training AI for authentic content creation, Mason highlights where AI helps and where it falls short.This conversation also emphasizes the irreplaceable role of human connection, the need for intentional strategy, and the importance of aligning marketing, sales, and customer success teams around best-fit accounts.

    The Seven Playbooks for Account-Based RevOps Success | Ep. 199

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 28, 2025 20:46


    On this episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby welcomes Galen Dow, founder of BrandGen and the first Elite tier HubSpot agency, New Breed. The conversation tackles one of the most common challenges for revenue leaders: how to run effective account-based advertising without draining budget on massive, expensive platforms.Galen shares the genesis of BrandGen and how it enables organizations to connect HubSpot with open web advertising, programmatic campaigns, and even connected TV—without software fees. Together, Mason and Galen explore the concept of account-based RevOps, the seven playbooks for ABM execution, and how to empower sales teams with direct control of campaigns. The discussion highlights practical strategies for orchestrating omnichannel touches, measuring engagement, and aligning marketing and sales to accelerate pipeline growth.

    Why Sales Thinks Marketing is Useless | Ep. 198

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 25, 2025 12:06


    If you've ever walked into a meeting with sales, presented a flawless marketing plan, and left with nothing but frustration, you're not alone. On this episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby reveals the five biggest reasons sales teams won't buy into marketing programs—and what to do about it.From definitions that don't match up, to time horizons that clash, to calendars that feel empty or overwhelming, Mason explains how small misalignments create major breakdowns in trust. He also walks through the reality of seasonality, why pipeline timing matters, and how compensation structures can make alignment almost impossible.This is a blunt, practical breakdown of what really drives the disconnect between marketers and sales—and how to fix it before your next big plan gets ignored.

    Why the Biggest Logos Don't Mean the Best Accounts (with Leslie Venetz) | Ep. 197

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2025 26:11


    Scrappy ABM, hosted by Mason Cosby, welcomes bestselling author Leslie Venetz, who wrote Profit Generating Pipeline. Together they break down what it really means to find and grow your most profitable customers.Leslie challenges the mindset of chasing “cheapest” or “biggest” customers, showing why renewal, upsell, and long-term partnerships define true profitability. Drawing on her background in service-based and SaaS sales, she explains why sales and marketing teams must shift from quick wins to sustainable relationships.This conversation covers how to fix the marketing-to-sales handoff, why MQLs often miss the mark, and what it takes to operationalize personalization at scale. With practical strategies on ICP clarity, segmentation, and industry-specific campaigns, Leslie and Mason reveal how to move from spray-and-pray tactics to revenue strategies that actually work.

    ABM Retrospective: The Good, the Bad, and the Pipeline | Ep. 196

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 18, 2025 51:56


    ABM is a trust engine, but building it right takes patience, sponsorship, and more groundwork than most expect. In this live episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby sits down with Ryan Gunn and Amanda “Chuck” Palmarchuk for a full retrospective on an ambitious ABM program launched in late 2020.Together, they revisit a program that started with $0 pipeline after six months and ultimately influenced $7M within 18 months. They unpack what worked — executive sponsorship, a sharply defined target account list, and tightly documented operations — and where they'd hit rewind: overinvesting in tech, misaligned expectations, and the pain of forcing MQLs into a sales pipeline.Whether you're building ABM from scratch, stuck in the middle, or scaling with momentum, this conversation reveals both the early signals that matter and the long-game reality required to see real impact.

    How a Simple Travel Kit Strategy Turned an Event into a Buzz-Worthy Experience (with Yelena Kozlova from Finch) | Ep. 195

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 14, 2025 18:06


    Scrappy ABM delivers practical playbooks that don't break the bank, and this episode showcases just that. Host Mason Cosby talks with Yelena Kozlova, VP of Marketing at Finch, about an event activation that combined creativity, simplicity, and strong partner engagement to drive results.Yelena shares how Finch, the number one payroll network, built a partner-focused activation at a premier third-party administrator event. Using a seamless travel kit, co-branded items, and a scavenger hunt-inspired process, the team generated buzz, showcased network strength, and created meaningful conversations. The discussion highlights how creative packaging, clear messaging, and smart use of resources—like an event agency and even ChatGPT—can transform event marketing. Listeners will hear how this scrappy approach turned a standard booth into the talk of the show while building momentum for future events.

    Why Ethical Selling and Niching Down Drive Scalable Growth | Ep. 194

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 11, 2025 54:27


    Scrappy ABM shares an insightful crossover from the Becoming a Hiring Machine podcast, where Mason Cosby joins Sam Kuehnle to discuss how account-based marketing (ABM) principles create stability, profitability, and scale for recruiters. Mason explains why ABM is the most efficient way to do B2B, how ethical selling drives conviction, and why niching down can lead to stronger positioning and better customers. Through his own experience building Scrappy ABM from the ground up, Mason reveals how to replace bad clients with high-value partnerships, increase lifetime value, and build a predictable pipeline without adding unnecessary expenses or headcount.Listeners will hear two powerful frameworks — the account progression model and the four D's of ABM — along with practical advice on pricing, targeting, and scaling. This episode equips recruiters and service businesses with the mindset and tools to transform their growth strategies while avoiding the pitfalls of traditional acquisition methods.

    Scaling Revenue with Agentic AI and ABM (with Wendy White) | Ep. 193

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 7, 2025 20:16


    Scrappy ABM brings practical playbooks that don't break the bank, and in this episode, host Mason Cosby sits down with Wendy White, the CMO of Daxko. Known for being wildly talented and dramatically underappreciated in the world of CMOs, Wendy shares how she integrates AI across ABM and go-to-market strategies.From AI-powered outbound to long-tail SEO orchestration, Wendy reveals what's working, what's not, and how Daxko uses AI as a partner rather than a replacement. She details practical workflows that blend automation with human oversight to protect brand voice, improve lead quality, and empower teams. With real examples—from using Clay for enriched targeting to deploying AI Piper for off-hours lead qualification—this conversation challenges marketing leaders to rethink how they scale.

    Stop Asking for Meetings Too Soon: ABM Lessons That Actually Work | Ep. 192

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 4, 2025 18:12


    Scrappy ABM is back with practical playbooks that save teams from heartache and stalled programs. Host Mason Cosby sits down with Amanda (Florez) Palmarchuk, the strategist behind many successful client programs. Together, they share simple tips and proven approaches to building ABM initiatives that actually work.This conversation unpacks how to narrow focus in global markets, identify the right accounts to pursue, and avoid overengineering your strategy. Amanda reveals how segmentation drives success, why starting with existing content accelerates results, and how aligning metrics to progression stages keeps programs on track. They also discuss common missteps like rushing the process or asking for meetings too early—and how to prevent them.Listeners will walk away with specific ways to repurpose content, choose channels that matter, and measure what really proves ABM is working.

    Building Trusted Audiences That Drive Pipeline (with Rob Bellenfant) | Ep. 191

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 31, 2025 21:18


    Scrappy ABM, hosted by Mason Cosby, sits down with Rob Bellenfant, CEO of TechnologyAdvice, to uncover why most B2B marketers struggle with content syndication. Rob shares how the right partner and the right audience create real pipeline, not just contact lists.This conversation highlights why building trust with first-party audiences changes everything, how authenticity drives engagement, and why educational content alone is no longer enough. Rob explains the four ingredients every piece of content needs—education, production value, time efficiency, and entertainment—and why missing even one kills ROI.From choosing syndication channels to setting up feedback loops that actually work, listeners will hear clear ways to measure success and pivot fast. Whether targeting small businesses or moving upmarket, Rob's insights reveal how to adjust expectations, fight out incumbents, and make every content dollar count.

    Stop Sending the Same Email: Match Content to Buyer Stage Instead (with Trevor Grimes) | Ep. 190

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 28, 2025 23:48


    ABM content that “kind of fits everywhere” often performs nowhere. In this tactical episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby sits down with Trevor Grimes, Lead Content Strategist at Scrappy ABM, to lay out exactly how to create the right content for each stage of your account progression model.From understanding what qualifies as meaningful engagement to identifying content gaps through a simple audit, Trevor and Mason break down the nuances of building targeted assets that serve a clear purpose. Whether you're sending emails, building product pages, or prepping for your next webinar, this episode gives you the framework to stop guessing and start aligning content with what your prospects actually need.

    The Booth Hack That Hit Meeting Quotas on Day One (with Brandon Redlinger) | Ep. 189

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 24, 2025 23:51


    What if a few LinkedIn headshots and some paint sticks could generate more qualified meetings than a six-figure ABM platform? On this episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby welcomes Brandon Redlinger, a seasoned ABM leader and co-founder of The Forge, to break down a low-cost, high-yield play executed during Forrester's Summit.The campaign—built around a simple idea called Find Your Face—used printed cutouts of buyers' faces to turn booth traffic into booked meetings. And it worked so well, the team ran out of faces on Day One.Brandon shares the full breakdown: sourcing the target list from LinkedIn hashtags and past sponsors, how reps organically promoted the play, and why the Bose headphones weren't the real incentive. He also explores what worked, what he'd change, and how even fractional marketing teams can align with sales—without becoming order-takers.

    Why 80% of ABM Programs Fail—And How to Avoid It | Ep. 188

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 21, 2025 29:27


    What if your ABM program is failing before it even starts?In this special repurposed episode of Scrappy ABM, Mason Cosby shares his guest appearance on the ForgeX Files podcast to break down the five most common reasons ABM programs crash and burn. From leadership indifference to unrealistic targeting, Mason lays out why most pilots never get off the ground—and how to fix them.This conversation strips away the fluff and gets real about the operational and strategic gaps that sabotage ABM efforts. Whether you're managing a pilot, leading an enterprise rollout, or thinking about building a center of excellence, this episode is a direct line into what's working—and what's not—in ABM today.

    Get a Fully Built ABM Strategy in One Day

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 18, 2025 2:20


    For the first time ever, the team at Scrappy ABM is giving away their entire account-based marketing strategy development process — step by step — in a free six-and-a-half-hour workshop on August 7. In this mini-episode, host Mason Cosby shares why this is the clearest, most structured way to walk away with a fully mapped-out ABM strategy that you can start executing the very next day.If you've been stuck for months, unsure how to get sales fully bought in or how to work within your current tech stack and budget, this session is designed to solve exactly those issues. You'll come with targeting ideas, objectives, and sales context — and leave with clarity, confidence, and a plan.Register for the Free Workshop (August 7): scrappyabm.com/workshopEmail Mason: Mason@scrappyabm.com

    How a Solo Marketer Built 80% of Pipeline With ABM and Zero Ads (with Adam O'Brien from Stackpack) | Ep. 187

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 17, 2025 19:37


    What happens when you're a solo marketer in a red ocean—no budget, crowded market, and limited differentiation? If you're Adam O'Brien, you go scrappy and win. On this episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby sits down with Adam to unpack how he prioritized accounts, activated a lean channel mix, and built a brand in real time—all while leading marketing solo at a nonprofit-focused SaaS company.From hijacking trade show audiences to building GPT-powered microsites, Adam shares how marketing created 80% of pipeline despite not sponsoring events, skipping ads, and selling in a highly relational, low-tech vertical. This isn't theory—it's the actual playbook, including failures, workarounds, and honest lessons from the field. If you're thinking about ABM but light on resources, this is your blueprint.

    It's All Your Fault — And That's Good News | Ep. 186

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 14, 2025 53:16


    When revenue goals get missed, teams scramble to assign blame — usually across departmental lines. That's why this episode of Scrappy ABM hosted by Mason Cosby was titled “It's All Your Fault.” But instead of finger-pointing, this panel unpacks why taking ownership — not blame — is the key to alignment and performance.In this expert panel, Laura Erdem of Dreamdata, Sarah Sehgal of OpenSesame, and Kacyn Goranson of BetterUp share firsthand challenges of marketing attribution, compensation models, and what alignment really looks like in high-growth B2B companies. The episode explores how misaligned incentives, unclear definitions, and siloed data are blocking collaboration — and how these leaders are actively solving it.If you're navigating friction between sales, marketing, and ops, this episode offers practical frameworks, tactical tips, and a refreshing dose of honesty.

    “We Built It for Us—and It Took Over an Industry” (with Brad Parker from FormPiper) | Ep. 185

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2025 23:16


    ABM isn't about guessing—it's about doubling down on the best customers you already know. In this episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby sits down with Brad Parker, founder and CEO of FormPiper, to explore how solving one specific pain in his own retail business led to dominating an entire vertical.Brad shares how “being a yes company” reshaped his approach to consumer financing, why his ICP was “literally me,” and how that hyper-focus enabled FormPiper to scale across furniture, jewelry, auto, and medical. From 90-day sprint cycles to hard lessons in vertical adaptation, Brad unpacks how strategic partnerships—not cold calls—became his #1 growth channel. If you've ever tried to force-fit a product into a new market, this conversation will hit home.

    All the Reasons Your ABM Program Will Fail—And Why That's a Good Thing | Ep. 184

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 7, 2025 27:39


    On this episode of Scrappy ABM, you'll hear Mason Cosby on Scale Your Sales with Janice B. Gordon, where he shares a brutally honest take on what causes most ABM programs to fail—and why that failure is the right place to start. From sales comp misalignment to over-engineered target lists, Mason breaks down why focusing on fewer, better-fit customers creates more momentum and less churn.Mason also offers specific, repeatable plays: how to track champions who leave your client companies, how to earn 15+ referrals per quarter with a single list, and why getting “access” in sales is a marketing problem in disguise. If you're in marketing, sales, or anywhere in a revenue team, this episode's full of real strategies and red flags—straight from the front lines of ABM.

    How to Launch a One-to-One ABM Pilot in Just Four Weeks (with Alexander Goodwin from Fingerprint) | Ep. 183

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 3, 2025 24:32


    Scrappy ABM host Mason Cosby welcomes Alexander Goodwin, Director of Demand Generation at Fingerprint, to unpack the early success of his one-to-one ABM pilot. Within just a few months—and a fast, scrappy launch—Alex was able to generate early wins, create sales alignment, and secure executive buy-in for a scaled version two of the program.Alexander shares how starting with a small cohort of 20 high-profit, previously engaged accounts made it easier to prove quick value. He also breaks down his simple segmentation model, how he templated landing pages in HubSpot, and how embedding rep-recorded videos made the experience feel personal and relevant. Throughout the episode, Mason and Alex highlight the importance of clarity in account planning, shared measurement models, and practical ways to prioritize accounts that drive real revenue—not just clicks.

    Why Your Show Hasn't Launched Yet—And How to Fix It in 30 Days | Ep. 182

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2025 19:17


    Scrappy ABM host Mason Cosby sits down with Joseph Lewin, Head of Podcast Strategy at Scrappy ABM, for a tactical breakdown of launching a revenue-generating show in just 30 days. If you've ever stalled on getting a podcast off the ground—or struggled to prove its value—this episode delivers an exact playbook.Joseph Lewin shares why podcasting is the most effective networking and sales tool that's hiding in plain sight. By focusing on speed-to-launch, identifying high-value guests, and using cold outreach that actually converts, Joseph has completely reshaped how Scrappy ABM gets client shows into market. You'll learn how a 30-day soft-to-hard launch framework accelerates time-to-value—and why skipping the overthinking phase matters more than your gear or perfect positioning.Mason and Joseph walk through who to invite first, why live shows create momentum, and how post-recording green room chats turn ghosted leads into six-figure deals. If you want to build real relationships with the right people—and do it in a scrappy, scalable way—this episode shows you how.

    Why Personalization Beats Spray-and-Pray Every Time (with Lorena Garcia from FranConnect) | Ep. 181

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 26, 2025 28:46


    Most marketers think they need more tech to launch ABM. Lorena Garcia, SVP of Marketing at FranConnect, would tell you: you don't. In this episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby digs into Lorena's real-world approach to building account-based experiences from the ground up—without expensive platforms or endless prep.Lorena breaks down how her team used public triggers, personalized experiences, and a tight alignment between marketing, SDRs, and sales to drive serious momentum inside a tough market. From segmenting dashboards in Salesforce to real-time email updates to sales, she shares the practical steps they took to operationalize and scale a high-touch program. If you've been waiting for the perfect setup to launch ABM—this is your permission to go now.

    The One-Page Blueprint for Building a Scrappy ABM Program | Ep. 180

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 23, 2025 27:38


    Building an ABM engine isn't about throwing more tools at the problem—it's about clarity, alignment, and commitment. In this repurposed episode of Scrappy ABM, Mason Cosby joins Jorge Soto on The GTM Pack Podcast to break down the essential systems behind ABM that actually works. Mason, founder of Scrappy ABM, shares why most teams are closer to launch than they realize—and how two frameworks, the Account Progression Model and the Four D Framework, can take you the rest of the way.You'll hear how to gauge if ABM is right for your business, why pipeline determines your brand vs. sales mix, and the real reason sales doesn't follow up on your campaigns. Mason also explains why podcasting isn't the magic bullet marketers think it is—and when it is the right move. This episode is a goldmine for any B2B marketer trying to run scrappy, effective programs that actually drive pipeline.

    How Brandon Salisbury Drove 456% Pipeline Growth at Tilt | Ep. 179

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 19, 2025 23:18


    Practical, measurable growth—Brandon Salisbury joins Mason Cosby on Scrappy ABM to share the framework behind a 456% pipeline increase and 255% revenue growth at Tilt. This episode is for marketers and revenue leaders who want actionable steps, not just theory.Hear how Brandon Salisbury broke down historical data to identify segments with true product-market fit, shifted messaging from generic ROI to sharp, outcome-based content, and partnered closely with sales to make every campaign count. Brandon goes deep on targeting, channel mix, content strategy, and the lessons learned from RFIs, Gong transcripts, and buying committee insights. Whether you're starting your first ABM program or leveling up an existing one, you'll find candid advice on aligning teams, overcoming old mindsets, and scaling what works—without chasing vanity metrics.

    Are We Really Aligned? Why Visualizing Strategy Beats Talking About It (with Christina Bottis and Chris Geraci from Mural) | Ep. 178

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 16, 2025 51:24


    Visualizing alignment is more than a buzzword—it's a necessity in the new world of ABM. On this special Scrappy ABM panel, Mason Cosby is joined by Christina Bottis and Chris Geraci from Mural to tackle why so many marketing and sales conversations feel aligned in the room, but fall apart in execution. When remote work removes the whiteboard and hallway chats, teams risk leaving with different images in their heads—even when everyone thinks they're “100% on the same page.”Hear candid stories from the trenches: launching ABM strategies in the chaos of COVID, why PowerPoint slides aren't enough, and how Mural's teams now center everything on visual artifacts. Mason Cosby, Christina Bottis, and Chris Geraci dig into the hard questions—what does “alignment” look like, who actually owns which metrics, and how do you build trust when marketing's metrics feel like “Instagram versus reality” to sales? This episode is packed with raw moments, practical rituals, and surprising truths about empathy, human connection, and why the best digital experiences are also the most human.

    Tripling Revenue in Six Months: Podcasting as an Account-Based Playbook with Logan Lyles | Ep. 177

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 12, 2025 21:00


    Scrappy ABM welcomes Logan Lyles, Director of Growth at Business Builders, for a candid look at how podcasting can unlock revenue and real relationships for agency owners and service businesses. Host Mason Cosby shares how many founders look to build ABM programs but find podcasting is the better fit, especially for those with founder-led expertise.Logan Lyles walks through his journey from technology sales to running Sweet Fish Media's podcast and closing their first guest as a client within 35 days. Listeners will hear how Logan and the team tripled business in just six months and scaled with a content-based networking approach, where podcast guests are the best-fit customers. The episode covers how to decide between audience growth or account-based podcasting, how to build your process, and the tools that make it easier than ever—plus smart tactics for booking, follow-up, and turning interviews into closed deals.

    Matching Content to Every Stage: Why It's Not About Spam | Ep. 176

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 9, 2025 18:04


    Scrappy ABM and Content Amplified join forces as Mason Cosby, host of Scrappy ABM, takes the guest seat on Benjamin Ard's show. Mason shares his journey from launching The Marketing Ladder to building Scrappy ABM, a resource now featuring over 140 episodes focused on creating an account-based marketing program.Listeners get a behind-the-scenes look at why Mason believes great content makes life better for customers, sales, and customer success. He breaks down the reality of account-based marketing—explaining why “just running sales sequences” isn't ABM, how to recognize buyer stages, and what actually moves accounts forward.Expect frank discussion about what “qualified” really means, the power of first-party content engagement, and why sales should never waste their time on cold lists. Mason also reveals his team's approach to organizing content and gives actionable frameworks to align marketing and sales, with a little humor along the way.

    The ABM Cheat Code: ICP, Intent, and Iteration (with Christopher Collier from EHS Insight) | Ep. 175

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 5, 2025 30:57


    Most ABM teams make one fatal mistake: they treat the strategy like it's “set it and forget it.” But as Scrappy ABM host Mason Cosby learns from Christopher Collier, Vice President of Marketing at EHS Insight, the reality is far more dynamic. ABM is not just about targeting accounts—it's about constant ICP refinement, aligning teams, iterating channel mix, and measuring what really matters.Christopher shares how his team does quarterly and even monthly reviews of ICP and CAC, why they only run outbound to accounts showing intent, and how they align content and channels to the buyer's journey. Plus, they've built a culture where experimentation is safe, failure is learning, and RevOps is in the room for content strategy.If you want a real-world look at how to stand up and scale an ABM program without relying on guesswork or bloated tech stacks, this episode has the playbook.

    Why Most ABM Fails (And What to Do Instead) | Ep. 174

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 2, 2025 28:04


    Can you really run an effective ABM program without a six-figure budget? In this special re-release on Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby joins The Content Cocktail Hour to debunk the most common myths about account-based marketing—and share how Scrappy ABM generated $3 million in revenue using little more than a podcast, LinkedIn, and clear strategy.In conversation with Jonathan Gandolf, Mason breaks down what separates “good marketing” from true ABM, the real reasons most programs fail, and why success has less to do with tooling and more to do with internal alignment. They also explore why marketing should start with finance when defining best-fit accounts, how to use content to support outbound, and what it means to sell ethically in B2B.If your company is over-indexing on tools and underestimating alignment, this is the episode to reset your approach.

    Why Your LinkedIn Outreach Isn't Getting Responses—and What to Do Instead (with Morgan J Ingram from AMP Creative) | Ep. 173

    Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2025 26:01


    Scrappy ABM is back with an unfiltered masterclass on social selling, featuring Morgan J Ingram—Founder and CEO of AMP Creative. Host Mason Cosby walks through Morgan's five-part framework for building pipeline and engaging decision-makers using LinkedIn, based on real-world outbound experience and data-backed tactics.From mapping executive buyers and influencers with Sales Navigator to sending blank connection requests that outperform personalization, Morgan breaks down why traditional outreach is falling flat—and what to do instead. Learn how to avoid wasted hours, turn DMs into booked meetings, and design content that reaches even the most invisible buyers lurking in Slack threads.This is practical, time-saving strategy built for real sellers—not LinkedIn influencers.

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