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The hardest part of business development isn't effort, it's consistency. Most recruiters know what to do, but struggle to do it every day while juggling clients, candidates, and placements. You know you should be reaching out to prospects daily, but between managing active searches, candidate interviews, and client meetings, your pipeline suffers. The solution? Build automated systems that generate leads while you focus on conversations that close deals. Giorgio Zanella is a go-to-market engineer who's built hundreds of automation workflows for recruiters and founders. Working out of Clay's New York office, he's spent three years mastering the platform and helping recruitment professionals scale their outbound without losing the personal touch. In this behind-the-scenes episode of The Resilient Recruiter, we break down the exact infrastructure, tools, and strategies you need to automate your outbound without sacrificing personalization or sounding like spam. This isn't theory. Giorgio has analyzed thousands of campaigns and knows exactly what separates automation that works from automation that gets ignored. You'll learn why Clay.com has become the number one platform for scaling outreach, how to choose the right tools for email and LinkedIn automation, what infrastructure you actually need (domains, inboxes, and warming protocols), and how to achieve 3-5% response rates on cold email when most people can't break 1%. We cover the complete tech stack: Clay for workflow automation and data enrichment, Instantly for email sequencing, HeyReach for LinkedIn automation, and how these tools work together to create synchronized multichannel campaigns. You'll discover how Clay's "waterfall enrichment" replaces expensive tools like ZoomInfo (saving you $15K+ per year), why LinkedIn outreach gets higher response rates than email (and its hidden limitations), and how to build email infrastructure that protects your domain reputation while scaling to hundreds of sends per day. Giorgio shares the exact formula for safe, sustainable outreach: 3-4 alternate domains, 2 inboxes per domain, 12-15 emails per inbox per day, and the two-week warming process you can't skip. He explains why most recruiters wreck their deliverability by sending from their main domain, how to set up synchronized campaigns where email, LinkedIn, and phone calls happen in coordinated sequences, and why relevance (right person, right time, right message) beats volume every single time. You'll learn what "good" response rates actually look like (spoiler: they're lower than you think, but the ROI is massive), how to calculate return on investment for cold outreach campaigns, and why even a 1% response rate can generate huge returns when your infrastructure costs are minimal. Giorgio breaks down why personalization and timing are more important than blast volume, how to track real-time signals like job changes and promotions to time your outreach perfectly, and the practical first steps to start automating your business development this month. This episode is part of our new course, Automate Your Outreach: How to Generate Client Leads Daily on Autopilot, a four-week implementation program where Mark and Giorgio guide you step-by-step through building your own automation system. Whether you're a solo recruiter trying to scale or an agency owner looking to systematize business development across your team, this conversation gives you the blueprint. Episode highlights: • [00:50] Introducing Giorgio Zanella and the vision behind the "Automate Your Outreach" program • [03:30] What is Clay and why recruiters are using it to automate lead generation • [07:35] The tech stack you actually need: Clay, Instantly, HeyReach (and what to skip) • [12:20] How to replace expensive data tools like ZoomInfo with Clay's "waterfall enrichment" • [18:40] Email vs. LinkedIn outreach: which gets more replies and why • [23:25] How to run synchronized multichannel campaigns (email + LinkedIn + phone) • [31:30] Why personalization and timing beat volume every time • [40:55] Building a bulletproof email infrastructure (domains, inboxes, warm-up rules) • [52:00] What "good" reply rates look like and how to calculate ROI on outreach • [1:10:00] Practical first steps to start automating your BD this month For more information or to register for the Automate Your Outreach course, visit recruitmentcoach.com/automate Get your FREE 30-minute strategy call: http://www.recruitmentcoach.com/strategy-session/ Connect with Giorgio Zanella on LinkedIn Subscribe to The Resilient Recruiter on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

Henry Schuck is the co-founder and CEO of ZoomInfo, a data intelligence company that generated $1.2 billion in revenue last year. Henry joins Adam to share his journey and his best lessons and advice. Henry and Adam discuss a wide range of topics: entrepreneurship, leadership, innovation, competition, growth and scale, career success, managing through highs and lows, and much more.

In this Leader Generation episode, CEO Gabe Lullo shares the playbook Alleyoop uses to turn “more pipeline” into real revenue.  You'll hear how to fix unqualified pipeline syndrome by aligning on a clear ICP, catching buyers at the right time and using the BDR function as the bridge between marketing and sales. Gabe breaks down simple rules of engagement for MQL-SQL handoffs and the feedback loops that keep everyone moving in the same direction. We also dig into what actually works right now: human-first outreach, SDRs who think like marketers and LinkedIn content that warms leads before a sales call ever happens. Gabe shows how empowering employee voices on social can fuel 40% of new business, while cutting recruiting spend and improving pipeline quality.  If you want practical ideas to get better leads, better teamwork, and better outcomes, this one's for you. Leader Generation is hosted by Tessa Burg and brought to you by Mod Op.  About Gabe Lullo: Gabe Lullo is the CEO of Alleyoop, a sales development agency working with industry giants such as ZoomInfo, Salesloft, and Adobe. He has trained over 8,000 salespeople across diverse businesses and, during his tenure in Alleyoop, he has personally hired and managed more than 1,500 SDRs. With over two decades of experience in sales, marketing, and executive recruitment, his strategies have significantly driven Alleyoop's growth and shaped its corporate culture. Beyond his career accomplishments, Gabe graduated from the Barney School of Business at the University of Hartford and his leadership ethos is rooted in cultivating environments that prioritize both professional development and individual success. About Tessa Burg: Tessa is the Chief Technology Officer at Mod Op and Host of the Leader Generation podcast. She has led both technology and marketing teams for 15+ years. Tessa initiated and now leads Mod Op's AI/ML Pilot Team, AI Council and Innovation Pipeline. She started her career in IT and development before following her love for data and strategy into digital marketing. Tessa has held roles on both the consulting and client sides of the business for domestic and international brands, including American Greetings, Amazon, Nestlé, Anlene, Moen and many more. Tessa can be reached on LinkedIn or at Tessa.Burg@ModOp.com.

Most companies still hire salespeople wrong in 2025.They rely on resumes, gut feeling, and vague interviews instead of testing real skills. In this episode, Raul and Toni explain why that approach fails and how to replace it with a system that actually works.They break down a practical process to identify what you really need, define the skills that matter, and test candidates in realistic scenarios. No fluff, no guesswork, just a repeatable way to hire people who can actually sell.This episode is brought to you by ZoomInfo, the Go-To-Market Intelligence Platform. ZoomInfo gives you high-quality B2B data and sales intelligence on in-market buyers across companies of all sizes, powered by AI-driven automation with integrated outreach tools to help your GTM teams build pipeline and close deals faster. Check them out at zoominfo.com/revenue-formula Want to work with us? Learn more: revformula.io(00:00) - Introduction (01:41) - Hiring is Broken (07:09) - Basics of Effective Hiring (12:35) - The Myth of the Perfect Candidate (14:20) - Understand your Needs and Context (16:56) - Time Pressure in Hiring (22:02) - The Three Step Solution (29:10) - Assessing Candidates: Interpretation (30:16) - Assessing Candidates: Talking (31:21) - Assessing Candidates: Showing (32:53) - Assessing Candidates: Doing (36:53) - Iterating on the Process (39:57) - Roleplaying in Sales Hiring (43:33) - Hiring Sales Leaders (46:00) - Final Thoughts and Takeaways

Are you a seasoned recruiter wondering if it's time to move on from agency life? Maybe you're itching to branch out but feel stuck by golden handcuffs—or curious about starting your own firm but unsure where to begin. This episode of The Elite Recruiter Podcast is your roadmap to clarity.

How do you prepare your mindset and create the discipline to be effective every single day? That's what Jeff Velez asked on a recent Ask Jeb episode, and it's the question that separates the pros from the amateurs in sales. Sales is the hardest profession in business. It's the only job where you have to go out and find rejection and bring it home every single day. Every ask you make carries the potential to be rejected at a deep, painful level. That's why we get paid so well. And that's why most people can't hack it. But the ones who do? They've figured out the secret. Find Your Carrot My friend Will Fratini from ZoomInfo nailed it when he talked about what motivates him, or his carrot. His five-year-old daughter once bought him a carrot Christmas ornament, and he carries it with him everywhere as a reminder of why he shows up every day. But here's what matters: Your carrot needs to be specific and tangible. Not some vague "I want to be successful" nonsense. I'm talking about something real. A commission check of X dollars. A boat. Generational wealth through real estate. A college fund for your kids. Think of it like an old-time horse and carriage. You put a carrot on a stick in front of a stubborn horse, and suddenly it'll go forward even when it thinks it can't. That's what your carrot does for you when everyone else is giving up. Your carrot is what pushes you past the point where giving up would be completely justified. It's what separates the best from the rest. The Hard Truth About Sales Discipline Let's be clear about what sales discipline actually means. You have to show up every day and do a certain number of activities. Every. Single. Day. Consistently. And in order to do those hard things consistently, you need that carrot. It's about sacrificing what you want now (which is easy) for what you want most (which requires doing hard things). I want to do things that are easy. But in order to get what I want most, I've got to do things that are hard. That's the entire game. The Scottie Scheffler Example Look at Scottie Scheffler, the PGA golfer. When he makes a bogey, he bounces back with a birdie or better 62 percent of the time. The rest of the field? Less than 18 percent. Why? Because Scheffler is crystal clear about what's important to him. He knows his carrot. He understands what fulfillment means. When something goes wrong, there's no cascade of "everything is wrong." His ego doesn't take a hit because he's focused on what matters most. He picks himself back up, brushes himself off, and keeps moving. But here's what most people don't know: It wasn't always this way. When he first brought on his caddie, Ted Scott, Ted told him straight up: "I'm not working for you unless you get the attitude, temper, and anger under control." Think about that. The caddie refused to work with him unless he fixed his mindset first. That's how important mindset in sales really is. Everything else comes after. Your Visual Cue Go get yourself a carrot ornament. Seriously. Find one on Amazon, hang it in your office, and use it as your visual cue for what matters most. When you're sitting at your desk in the morning trying to get started, or when something has gone wrong and you're trying to bounce back, that carrot will remind you why you chose this soul-sapping profession in the first place. Because maybe the only thing harder than sales is golf. But you chose it. Now own it. The Secret Superpower Here's the bonus that Will dropped that's pure gold: Sometimes your carrot isn't even about you. Sometimes the ultimate sales superpower is genuinely helping someone else be the star of the show. The best sellers in the world don't care about how great their product is. They care about making their customer the hero. If you genuinely believe you're there to help someone else's day get better, you're going to come through. And when you have that extra little carrot hanging th...

James Roth, CRO at ZoomInfo, joins Toni to break down how AI is reshaping go-to-market. From the collapse of inbound demand to the rise of intelligent outbound, he explains how teams can stay efficient, use AI without the hype, and turn data into real impact.We also talk about ZoomInfo's $1.2B ARR growth, the myth of “AI-native” startups, and what go-to-market intelligence actually means in 2025.Want to work with us? Learn more: revformula.io(00:00) - Introduction (01:38) - ZoomInfo's Growth and Public Perception (06:45) - AI's Role Today (10:04) - ZoomInfo's Approach to AI and Competition (15:35) - Go-to-Market Intelligence Explained (21:09) - Integration and Collaboration in the Industry (26:01) - SEO Challenges and Market Impact (28:45) - The Resurgence of Outbound Sales (33:27) - AI's Role in Sales Efficiency (39:46) -  Leveraging AI for SMB Data (46:39) - The Drive for Efficiency with New Tools (53:10) - Next Week: $5M ARR per AE with AI

Henry Schuck, founder and CEO of Zoominfo Technologies (GTM), talks about how the company uses A.I. to enhance client engagement with customers. He addresses concerns that A.I. will reduce staff head count by making the argument that A.I. actually boosts the need for more sales workers. On the future of tech, Henry believes it will give Zoominfo an opportunity to move on the "offense" instead of "defense."======== Schwab Network ========Empowering every investor and trader, every market day.Options involve risks and are not suitable for all investors. Before trading, read the Options Disclosure Document. http://bit.ly/2v9tH6DSubscribe to the Market Minute newsletter - https://schwabnetwork.com/subscribeDownload the iOS app - https://apps.apple.com/us/app/schwab-network/id1460719185Download the Amazon Fire Tv App - https://www.amazon.com/TD-Ameritrade-Network/dp/B07KRD76C7Watch on Sling - https://watch.sling.com/1/asset/191928615bd8d47686f94682aefaa007/watchWatch on Vizio - https://www.vizio.com/en/watchfreeplus-exploreWatch on DistroTV - https://www.distro.tv/live/schwab-network/Follow us on X – https://twitter.com/schwabnetworkFollow us on Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/schwabnetworkFollow us on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/schwab-network/About Schwab Network - https://schwabnetwork.com/about

Struggling to scale your recruiting desk, close bigger deals, or turn your agency into a powerhouse? This episode of The Elite Recruiter Podcast is your playbook for becoming a $500k+ biller and doubling down on the exact tactics powering the fastest-growing remote firms today. Host Benjamin Mena sits down with Dante Nino, co-founder of TLO, to unpack the uncompromising frameworks and high-conversion business development strategies behind his team's explosive growth (and their unstoppable recruiter mindset). If you want to make Q4 your best ever or simply operate at elite standards, don't miss Dante's systems, templates, and the proven deal box strategy that's redefining recruiting success.  

Episode 399 of The VentureFizz Podcast features Luisa Herrmann, Founder & CEO of AINovva. This episode was recorded live at Startup Boston Week at Suffolk University which is the third year that I've hosted it onsite. Thank you to Stephanie Roulic for the invitation as it's a lot of fun and great to be involved in such a meaningful conference. And, since it was hosted live, this episode is audio only and my apologies for the background noise. Entrepreneurs take different paths when it comes to finding ideas to start a business and how they go about funding it. Her company, AINovva was born out of her own need. After working in AI for several years and learning how to code, she built the product to solve her own content-switching exhaustion called AIFred. It handles email prioritization, meeting prep, and relationship management so busy professionals can focus on what matters. And to fund the company, she has bootstrapped it through consulting revenue. Not every company needs an outside investment and if it does, the longer an entrepreneur can hold out… the better situation they will be in when it comes to negotiating the terms. In this interview, we cover: * Advice on attending networking events. * Luisa's background story in terms of how she got involved in the tech industry and her journey into product management. * Her experience in product roles at ZoomInfo, Validity, and other startups. * All the details about AINOvva. * Advice for hiring your first Product Manager. * And so much more.

Warren Zenna sits down with Michael Maimone, CRO at LucidLink, to unpack his journey from BDR to enterprise sales leader to CRO. Michael shares how his time at IBM, Marketo, Adobe, and ZoomInfo shaped a systems mindset, enabling him to translate big-company rigor into agile, early-stage execution without stifling momentum.They dive into the first 30-60-90 days in the seat: observe, diagnose, implement. Michael explains how he sequenced quick wins—enablement, RevOps guardrails, hiring profiles, interview kits—before rolling out robust territory, account, and opportunity planning. He emphasizes credibility through results and the art of modulation when change-managing seasoned teams.Michael details LucidLink's category-defining approach to distributed cloud file access for massive media and design workflows, and how that expands into broader enterprise use cases. He outlines direct and channel motions, global team structure, and the zero-knowledge security model that unlocks collaboration without compromising control.The conversation closes with pragmatic AI adoption across Gong, ZoomInfo, dialers, website conversion, and Gemini-driven planning. Michael shares early signal lifts, how to beat tool fatigue, why human analysts still matter, and advice to aspiring CROs: lead cross-functionally, stay humble, build lieutenants, and align every motion to predictable, scalable revenue.

This episode is the audio from our recent webinar on AE self-sourcing. Erika Fuchs from EliseAI, Rob Anderson from TitanX, and Darin Alpert from ZoomInfo joined us to share how top reps self-source pipeline to book more meetings and crush quota, without making hundreds of cold calls. Check out more free content and get coaching at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://outboundsquad.com.⁠

In this episode, Vik Khurana and Simon McDougall (Bristows Senior Adviser and Chief Strategist for AI at ZoomInfo) discuss the emerging discipline of AI governance and risk management. In particular they offer practical tips to those starting out in AI governance on:How to get started with setting up AI governance.The main industry frameworks and standards for useful baselines.Getting to know how your organisation engages with AI.Here are links to the learning resources Simon and Vik discuss during the first section:Bristows AI resource centreAda Lovelace InstituteICO AI resource centreExponential ViewSilicon SandsAI as Normal TechnologyISO/IEC 42001:2023NIST AI Risk Management FrameworkFind all the episodes as we release them here, and don't forget to subscribe! Follow us on LinkedIn to find more interesting content like this.Note: All information was correct at the time of recording.Send us a textThanks for listening!If you have any feedback, questions or comments, please email us at theroadmap@bristows.comFind all the episodes as we release them here, and don't forget to subscribe! Follow us on X and LinkedIn using #TheRoadmapPod

On this episode of The YM Show, I sit down with my good buddy Michael Kleinfeld, a top performer in B2B sales. We get super practical about how he actually wins contracts—from the first cold call, to follow-ups, to proposals—and how you can apply the same frameworks in any industry.If you're in sales (or you're a founder doing sales yourself), this episode is a cheat-sheet: the ins & outs, do's & don'ts, misconceptions, and yes—the occasional “scheme” to watch for—so you can close more cleanly and build long-term relationships.

Here's a question that'll make your head spin: You know AI is transforming sales, everyone's talking about it, but you're still staring at ChatGPT like it's some mysterious black box, wondering what magical question you should type in first. That's the reality for most salespeople in 2025. They know they need to embrace AI, they've heard the success stories, but they're paralyzed by the complexity and overwhelmed by the options. If you're nodding your head right now, you're not alone. The biggest barrier to AI adoption isn't technical—it's mental. Salespeople are asking the wrong question entirely. The Wrong Question That's Keeping You Stuck Most people approach AI like it's some mystical oracle they need to appease with the perfect question. They think there's some secret prompt that will unlock AI's full potential, like finding the right combination to a safe. Here's the brutal truth: There is no perfect first question for AI. The real problem isn't what to ask—it's how you're thinking about the problem. Instead of asking "What should I ask AI?" you need to flip the script entirely. The Mental Shift That Changes Everything Twenty minutes before recording our latest Ask Jeb episode, I was working on a new training program for Sales University. I had a slide deck and workbook that needed proofreading, and my first instinct was to think, "Who can I get to proofread this thing?" That's how most of us think: "How can someone else do this?" or "How can I get this done?" But I caught myself and asked a different question: "How can AI do this?" I uploaded the slide deck to AI and asked it to proofread for me. Fifteen seconds later, I had a response—not perfect, but a starting point. I refined my prompt, asking for typos organized slide by slide, and boom—seven minutes later, the entire deck was cleaned up. What would have taken me 45 minutes and still resulted in missed errors was done in minutes, with better accuracy than I could achieve manually. Why You're Already Qualified to Use AI Here's what Will Frattini from ZoomInfo pointed out that hit me like a lightning bolt: You already know how to use AI. You've been doing it for years. If you've ever asked Siri for directions, told Alexa to turn up the music, or typed a question into Google, congratulations—you've been using AI. The only difference now is the sophistication and power of what's available. The barrier isn't technical competency. It's the mental block of overthinking it. You don't need to understand large language models or machine learning algorithms. You just need to ask a question and hit enter. That's it. That's the profound simplicity everyone's missing. Think Like a Conductor, Not a Solo Act Here's the game-changing mindset shift: Stop thinking of yourself as someone who needs to learn AI. Start thinking of yourself as a conductor standing in front of a symphony orchestra. You've got Claude for certain tasks, ChatGPT for others, ZoomInfo Copilot for prospecting intelligence, Gemini for research—each AI is like a different instrument in your orchestra. Your job isn't to play every instrument; it's to conduct them all to create something beautiful. The apex predators in sales aren't going to be the people who master one AI tool. They're going to be the conductors who know when to use which AI for maximum impact, iterating and refining until they get exactly what they need. This means developing your prospecting methodology becomes even more critical—you need to know what outcome you're trying to achieve before you can direct your AI orchestra to help you get there. Your Practical Starting Point Stop overthinking this. Here's your action plan: Step 1: Pick one AI tool you have access to. Your company probably already provides something. If not, start with ChatGPT, Claude, or any of the major platforms. Step 2: Identify one recurring task that eats up your time. Email templates, research,

Top TakeawaysAI's real win in sales right now: offload repetitive tasks (triaging inboxes, drafting replies/follow-ups, note-taking, CRM updates) so sellers can focus on discovery, demos, and closing. Time to value is the new battleground. ChatGPT has reset expectations; buyers want activation on day one, not week 12. Meta-prompting → compounding quality. Prompts and personas should self-improve as your style and outcomes evolve. Context engineering increases quality. Simple details (who/where/when) measurably boost LLM output quality. Adoption reality check. Biggest blocker isn't tech—it's org inertia and middle-management friction. Start with a tiger-team pilot.Be great at your craft first. AI massively amplifies already-excellent practitioners. The AI for Sales Podcast is brought to you by BDR.ai, Nooks.ai, and ZoomInfo—the go-to-market intelligence platform that accelerates revenue growth.Skip the forms and website hunting—Chad will connect you directly with the right person at any of these companies.

Most cold calls die in the first 10 seconds, not because of bad fit, but because they sound just like the last five.Zak Murray and Sara Uy showed you how to stand out from the noise with creative openers, real talk tracks, and timing tactics that actually spark conversations.Learn how to earn attention fast, handle early pushback, and structure your call to build trust instead of pressure.Whether you're looking to break out of a calling slump or just want new material to test, this session gives you practical ideas you can try on your very next dial. You'll Learn:Creative openers that use humor, tone, and pattern interruptsSituational talk tracks for handling pushback in the first 10 secondsThe best times to call and how to structure the first 30 seconds for trust and momentumThe Speakers: Will Aitken, Sara Uy and Zachary MurrayIf you want to catch The Daily Sales Show live, join hereFollow Sell Better to get the latest actionable tactics from sales pros at the top of their gameExplore our YouTube ChannelThank you to our sponsors: ZoomInfo

Do you feel overwhelmed by endless recruiting tech, tools, and “hacks”—but still wonder why top-billing recruiters win? This episode pulls back the curtain! Join Benjamin Mena as he sits down with powerhouse insurance recruiter Amy Simpson to unlock her 20 years of consistent, high-performance results. Amy proves that big wins come not from chasing shiny objects but from nailing the basics and building lasting client relationships.  

Most reps either waste time rewriting every cold email from scratch or send the same stale template over and over. Both kill reply rates.In this show, you'll get a proven set of cold email templates you can use right away, plus the know-how to customize them in under a minute.Tom Alaimo will broke down the exact psychology behind each template, showed you where and how to add personalization, and explained how to adapt them for different outreach scenarios without losing speed.You'll also learn how to avoid the common traps that make templated emails feel generic or robotic, so your outreach stands out in any inbox.You'll Learn:Proven cold email templates for first touches, follow-ups, and break-upsHow to personalize templates quickly without slowing down your workflowMistakes to avoid that make templated emails feel generic or ineffectiveThe Speakers: Leslie Douglas and Tom AlaimoIf you want to catch The Daily Sales Show live, join hereFollow Sell Better to get the latest actionable tactics from sales pros at the top of their gameExplore our YouTube ChannelThank you to our sponsors: ZoomInfo

Here's a question that'll keep you up at night: What do you do when you believe in "buy or die" but you're terrified of ruining future opportunities with annoying prospecting sequences? That's exactly what Angie Anderson asked during a recent Ask Jeb session, and it's a problem that's plaguing salespeople everywhere. Angie subscribes to the buy or die mentality but doesn't want to destroy her odds of winning in the future by becoming the prospect's worst nightmare. If you're nodding your head right now, you're not alone. The tension between persistent prospecting and respectful relationship building is one of the biggest challenges facing modern sales professionals, and getting it wrong costs you deals—both now and in the future. The Buy or Die Misconception That's Killing Your Pipeline Here's the brutal truth: Most salespeople completely misunderstand what "buy or die" actually means. They think it's about hammering prospects until they crack, but that's not persistence—that's harassment. Real buy or die mentality recognizes that the prospect is never not a prospect, but sometimes now is not the right time. The key is knowing when to push and when to pull back. Your sequence length and touch frequency should be driven by one critical factor: deal complexity and account size. Short Cycle Sales Need Short, Aggressive Sequences Run 10-14 touch sequences over 10-30 days with touchpoints every 2-3 days. These prospects have buying windows that are typically always open, and the stakes are relatively low. Complex Accounts Require Long-Term Relationship Building For massive, high-value accounts, you could run sequences that extend up to two years. Touch them monthly or quarterly to stay top of mind, waiting for the right opportunity window to open. The magic happens when you track meaningful engagement. In any properly executed sequence, 30-50% of prospects will give you some form of signal—yes, no, or even "go away." All of these responses give you something to work with. But here's the critical part: When you get complete radio silence from the other 50%, you stop. Pull them out of your sequence, slot in fresh prospects, and circle back in 90 days or six months. You have infinite time to go after them—use it strategically. Why Generic Messages Get You Blocked Every Time This brings us to the second major challenge facing modern salespeople: crafting relevant messages that actually resonate with busy prospects. James Baldwin perfectly captured this struggle when he asked about leveraging tools like ZoomInfo to create relevant messaging. He sees tons of information but doesn't know what to use or how to use it effectively. This is where most reps completely miss the mark, and it's costing them relationships. The Research Failure That Destroys Credibility Want to know the fastest way to get permanently blocked? Send a message that screams "I know nothing about you or your business." This happened to me recently with a rep from a major software company. They did everything technically right—multi-channel approach, proper timing, professional voicemails—but they failed at the most critical element: relevance. They prospected Sales Gravy without doing even basic research. My LinkedIn profile was right there. My content was everywhere. I've literally said thousands of times that if you mention my books when prospecting me, I'll almost always respond. But they were too lazy to look. That's not persistence—that's sales malpractice. How to Turn Data Overload Into Relevant Conversations The problem isn't lack of information—it's information overwhelm. Modern tools give you access to massive amounts of data, but most reps freeze up trying to figure out what matters. The solution is asking better questions of your data. Instead of just building lists, use AI-powered tools to ask specific questions: "What are three conversation starters that would make this CEO interested in talking with us?

את ד"ר מיכה בריקסטון אירחנו כאן לפני כשנתיים, זמן קצר אחרי האקזיט המרשים של קרוב ל־600 מיליון דולר, שבו נמכר הסטארטאפ קורוס שייסד ל־ZoomInfo.כעת, בפרק החדש של הקריירה שלו, הוא בחר מטרה אחרת לגמרי – לעשות טוב.החברה החדשה שהקים, Somite, מפתחת מודלים מבוססי בינה מלאכותית לייצור תאים ורקמות אנושיות, כחלק ממדע הרפואה הרגנרטיבית – שיקום, תיקון או החלפה של תאים פגועים לטיפול במחלות קשות.הטכנולוגיה של החברה מאפשרת להשתמש בתאים אנושיים ורקמות כתרופות, עם פוטנציאל יישום רחב – מסוכרת נעורים, דרך בעיות אורתופדיות ומפרקיות, ועד ניוון שרירים ועוד.עד היום גייסה Somite כ־60 מיליון דולר, בין היתר מ־Khosla Ventures (הקרן הראשונה שהשקיעה ב־OpenAI) ומקרן הצדקה של מארק צוקרברג ופרסיליה צ'אן.אחרי שבנה חברה ששינתה את עולם המכירות באמצעות בינה מלאכותית, בריקסטון נחוש עכשיו להשתמש בטכנולוגיה כדי להציל חיים ולרפא מחלות.

This session dives deep into how to think like a researcher and then get AI to do the heavy lifting for you.Jordan Crawford and Doug Bell shared their exact ChatGPT workflows for uncovering insights about your buyers that go way beyond job titles or industries. The kind of data points that make your outbound stand out in a crowded inbox.It's not about the tool itself, it's about the thinking, the structure of your prompts, and how you turn those insights into targeted campaigns that work.You'll Learn:Why most sales research is surface-level (and what to do instead)How to prompt ChatGPT for deep, targeted researchTurning AI research into an actionable prospecting listThe Speakers: Jed Mahrle, Jordan Crawford and Doug BellIf you want to catch The Daily Sales Show live, join hereFollow Sell Better to get the latest actionable tactics from sales pros at the top of their gameExplore our YouTube ChannelThank you to our sponsors: ZoomInfo and People.ai

This episode is the audio from our recent webinar on cold calling. Colin Specter from Orum and Calvin Flax from ZoomInfo joined us to share what top reps do to land more meetings through the phone, based on insights from 1B cold calls completed using Orum. Check out more free content and get coaching at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://outboundsquad.com.⁠

If your cold calls feel stale, you're not alone. Most reps are saying the same things, in the same tone, and getting the same results, voicemail or a brush-off.Jack Frimston shared his most creative, out-of-the-box tactics for opening calls, catching attention, and having more fun on the phones.This isn't another “here's how to get past the gatekeeper” session. It's a punch of energy, personality, and sharp ideas that make people want to stay on the phone.We have a high-energy breakdown of how top cold callers own the first few seconds, play the right “character” to shift the vibe, and stand out with moves no influencer has told you to try.You'll Learn:Creative openers that break patterns and spark real conversationsHow to channel a confident “alter ego” that makes you more effective on callsUnconventional tips for working with gatekeepers instead of battling themThe Speakers: Leslie Douglas and Jack FrimstonIf you want to catch The Daily Sales Show live, join hereFollow Sell Better to get the latest actionable tactics from sales pros at the top of their gameExplore our YouTube ChannelThank you to our sponsors: ZoomInfo

On the latest episode of After Earnings, Ann Berry sits down with Henry Schuck the Founder and CEO of ZoomInfo to break down the company's recent earnings, including revenue growth and profitability. They discuss ZoomInfo's efforts to leverage AI for product development, customer acquisition strategies, and how the company is navigating increased competition and market challenges in the sales intelligence space. 00:00 - Henry Schuck Joins01:15 - Securing the GTM Ticker Symbol 02:43 - Customer Segmentation and Target Markets 04:18 - Product Application for a Cleaning Services Business 09:14 - Launch and Growth of Copilot 13:12 - Earnings and Market Reaction16:37 - Enterprise Use of ZoomInfo for AI Integration 17:09 - Supporting AI Implementation 18:41 - Leveraging Proprietary Data Assets 19:35 - Internal AI Adoption and Efficiency Gains 22:49 - Founding Story and Early Growth 25:55 - Competitive Landscape and Entry Barriers 26:41 - Data Network as a Long-Term Differentiator After Earnings is brought to you by Stakeholder Labs and Morning Brew. For more go to https://www.afterearnings.com Follow UsX: https://twitter.com/AfterEarningsTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@AfterEarningsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/afterearnings_/Reach OutEmail: afterearnings@morningbrew.com $GTM Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Is the hype around AI in marketing justified, or are we setting ourselves up for another "tech bubble" disappointment? Agility requires not only embracing new technologies like AI, but also a fundamental shift in mindset, processes, and even organizational structure. It demands a willingness to experiment, learn, and adapt quickly to the ever-changing marketing landscape. Today, we're going to talk about how AI is poised to revolutionize marketing, from personalization and customer engagement to the very structure of the SaaS market itself. To help me discuss this topic, I'd like to welcome, Rafael “Rafa” Flores, Chief Product Officer at Treasure Data. About Rafael Flores As an accomplished technology executive and proud immigrant from Honduras, I specialize in scaling SaaS companies from startup to high-growth enterprises. My career is built on my family's deep-rooted principles: valuing education, treating others with equal respect regardless of background, and uplifting younger talent—because I was once that little boy with big dreams. Throughout my career, I have led transformative initiatives at some of the most recognized names in the technology landscape:Meltwater: Played a pivotal role in the company's successful IPO, showcasing expertise in product innovation and market readiness.Datanyze: Led strategic initiatives that culminated in a successful acquisition by ZoomInfo, enhancing data intelligence capabilities.ARM Holdings: Spearheaded innovation in Retail SDK and IoT solutions, advancing the company's technology ecosystem and driving new business opportunities. 6sense: Led all automation, data, and AI-products, fostering a culture of collaboration and inclusion, while delivering data-driven solutions that empower GTM team(s) to sell effectively.Treasure Data: Orchestrated a landmark $600M acquisition by ARM and secured record-breaking Customer Data Platform (CDP) funding. Today, I am back leading Treasure Data through a transformative era of intelligence and automation fit for scale, while returning to an organization that feels like home—rich with talent, poise, and a passion for progress. I am also a devoted father of three beautiful children and grateful for the unwavering support of my wife—a registered nurse who embodies strength and compassion. My core expertise lies in defining and executing product strategies, roadmaps, and key performance indicators (KPIs). I possess deep knowledge of CDPs, data management, privacy frameworks, and SaaS go-to-market (GTM) applications, scaling solutions for businesses ranging from agile SMBs to Global 2000 enterprises. Rafael Flores on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ref2019/ Resources Treasure Data: https://www.treasuredata.com The Agile Brand podcast is brought to you by TEKsystems. Learn more here: https://www.teksystems.com/versionnextnow Don't Miss MAICON 2025, October 14-16 in Cleveland - the event bringing together the brights minds and leading voices in AI. Use Code AGILE150 for $150 off registration. Go here to register: https://bit.ly/agile150 Connect with Greg on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregkihlstromDon't miss a thing: get the latest episodes, sign up for our newsletter and more: https://www.theagilebrand.showCheck out The Agile Brand Guide website with articles, insights, and Martechipedia, the wiki for marketing technology: https://www.agilebrandguide.com The Agile Brand is produced by Missing Link—a Latina-owned strategy-driven, creatively fueled production co-op. From ideation to creation, they craft human connections through intelligent, engaging and informative content. https://www.missinglink.company

For the first time ever, Sell Better went live from San Francisco with an in-person audience and you can be part of it from anywhere.This high-energy, multi-guest session tackled the big question facing every seller, marketer, and revenue leader today: how do you turn AI from a buzzword into a pipeline-building machine?You'll see real workflows, practical examples, and tested tactics for personalizing at scale, stitching together the right tools, and keeping the human touch in your outreach.From building an AI-powered prospecting system from scratch to balancing volume with relevance, this show walked you through how to create a repeatable process that moves prospects from first touch all the way through the funnel.Whether you're in sales, marketing, or revenue operations, you'll leave with a clear blueprint for using AI to prospect smarter, align your team, and generate pipeline that actually converts.You'll Learn:How to build a scalable outbound process with AI without losing qualityWays to balance speed and personalization so your outreach never feels roboticHow to connect meetings to pipeline and measure impact across the funnelWhere AI accelerates prospecting and where manual effort still winsThe Speakers: Will Aitken, Leslie Douglas, Jed Mahrle, James Buckley, Kyle Vamvouris, Zoe Hartsfield, Mandy McEwen, and Lindsay RiosIf you want to catch The Daily Sales Show live, join hereFollow Sell Better to get the latest actionable tactics from sales pros at the top of their gameExplore our YouTube ChannelThank you to our sponsors: ZoomInfo and Hyperbound

Most outbound pitches fall flat because they focus on features instead of real problems.In this episode, Will Aitken and Keenan shared insights from their upcoming book GAP Prospecting and they will walk you through exactly how to build outbound messaging that resonates.You'll learn how to identify the problems your prospects actually care about, recognize the signals that suggest those problems exist, and use both to craft emails and calls that get results.This session includes a live exercise you can run with your team and practical frameworks to sharpen your outreach immediately.You'll Learn:How to map the key problems your product solvesThe signals to watch for that indicate prospect painNew templates and talk tracks that make your outbound pitch landThe Speakers: Will Aitken and KeenanIf you want to catch The Daily Sales Show live, join hereFollow Sell Better to get the latest actionable tactics from sales pros at the top of their gameExplore our YouTube ChannelThank you to our sponsors: ZoomInfo

Pipelines are drying up. AI hasn't delivered the growth it promised. And the old playbooks like SEO and outbound just don't work the way they used to. We call it the great pipeline starvation, and in this episode we break down what's really happening, what it means for sales and marketing teams, and how companies are trying to adapt. This episode is brought to you by ZoomInfo, the Go-To-Market Intelligence Platform. ZoomInfo gives you high-quality B2B data and sales intelligence on in-market buyers across companies of all sizes, powered by AI-driven automation with integrated outreach tools to help your GTM teams build pipeline and close deals faster. Check them out at zoominfo.com/revenue-formulaWant to work with us? Learn more: revformula.io(00:00) - Introduction (02:10) - Pipeline starvation (05:22) - Breakout companies are dominating (06:50) - The cost of lead gen (15:54) - The role of AI in cost reduction (20:18) - The future of sales and marketing automation (27:10) - The impact of AI on job roles (31:05) - The limitations of AI in growth (35:21) - The augment Bucket: Enhancing roles (39:36) - Zero waste GTM (46:35) - Final thoughts (47:27) - Next week: Todd Busler on the rev tech industry

What does it take to steer a 3,500-person company into the age of generative AI? ZoomInfo founder and CEO Henry Schuck joins us to unpack the company's journey from data powerhouse to AI-first GTM platform, the cultural shifts that enabled it, and the hard-won lessons any leader can borrow. We explore how they reduced teams from 26 to 2 people using AI agents, why 2/3 of employees now use AI daily, and the critical role of data infrastructure in AI success.Subscribe to The Neuron newsletter: https://theneuron.aiLearn more about ZoomInfo: https://www.zoominfo.com

A lot of prospects aren't ghosting you, their phone is.With iPhone's Silence Unknown Callers, Android filters, and third-party blockers like Hiya and Robokiller, your dials may never even ring. Cold calling isn't dead, but it has changed and reps need to adapt fast.In this episode, Sara Uy and Will Aitken broke down what's actually happening to your calls, how to improve your pickup rates, and what to say once you finally get someone on the line.You'll walk away with specific strategies, data-backed tips, and real examples that help turn silence into live conversations.You'll Learn:How to overcome mobile call screening features and get more pickupsTactical ways to boost your connect rateHooks, tone shifts, and openers that keep conversationsThe Speakers: Will Aitken and Sara UyIf you want to catch The Daily Sales Show live, join hereFollow Sell Better to get the latest actionable tactics from sales pros at the top of their gameExplore our YouTube ChannelThank you to our sponsors: ZoomInfo and JustCall

Too many reps chase the close and forget the relationship. But the best sellers know that trust comes first and that trust builds champions.In this episode Alexis Rivera Scott and Tania Arakelin Doub broke down how top sellers invest in real relationships that pay off with bigger, faster deals down the road.You'll learn what it takes to earn trust early, create internal advocates, and follow up in a way that feels personal, not pushy.If you're tired of being ghosted or stuck in “just checking in” mode, this session will give you the strategies to shift your mindset, build momentum, and turn prospects into true partners.You'll Learn:How to shift from transactional selling to relationship-driven outreachTactics to build trust and identify real internal championsCreative follow-up ideas that add value and keep conversations warmThe Speakers: Leslie Douglas, Tania Arakelian Doub and Alexis Rivera ScottIf you want to catch The Daily Sales Show live, join hereFollow Sell Better to get the latest actionable tactics from sales pros at the top of their gameExplore our YouTube ChannelThank you to our sponsors: Aligned, ZoomInfo and People.ai

In der heutigen Folge sprechen die Finanzjournalisten Daniel Eckert und Holger Zschäpitz über einen Kursstolperer bei Hypoport, die Rallye Cannabis-Aktien und Mega-Verluste bei Softwaretiteln. Außerdem geht es um Hensoldt, Renk Group, Rheinmetall, Heidelberg Materials, Monday.com, Vertex, Twilio, ZoomInfo, OKTA, Mongo DB, Intuit, Workday, Snowflake, C3 AI, BigBear AI, Archer Aviation, AMC Enertainment, OpenDoor, Kohl's, Intuitive Machines, Tesla, Reddit, BitMine, Tilray Brands, Ørsted, BP, Shell, iShares Global Clean Energy Transition ETF (WKN: A0MW0M), PlugPower, Jinko Solar, SMA Solar, RWE, Enel, iShares iBonds Dec 2026 Term EUR Corporate ETF (WKN: A3EHAJ), Xtrackers II Target Maturity ETF EUR Corporate Bond (WKN: DBX0U6), Invesco Bullet-Shares 2027 EUR Corporate Bond ETF (WKN: A400MB) und iShares iBonds Dec 2028 Term ETF (WKN: A3EHAK). Wir freuen uns an Feedback über aaa@welt.de. Noch mehr "Alles auf Aktien" findet Ihr bei WELTplus und Apple Podcasts – inklusive aller Artikel der Hosts und AAA-Newsletter. Hier bei WELT: https://www.welt.de/podcasts/alles-auf-aktien/plus247399208/Boersen-Podcast-AAA-Bonus-Folgen-Jede-Woche-noch-mehr-Antworten-auf-Eure-Boersen-Fragen.html. Der Börsen-Podcast Disclaimer: Die im Podcast besprochenen Aktien und Fonds stellen keine spezifischen Kauf- oder Anlage-Empfehlungen dar. Die Moderatoren und der Verlag haften nicht für etwaige Verluste, die aufgrund der Umsetzung der Gedanken oder Ideen entstehen. Hörtipps: Für alle, die noch mehr wissen wollen: Holger Zschäpitz können Sie jede Woche im Finanz- und Wirtschaftspodcast "Deffner&Zschäpitz" hören. +++ Werbung +++ Du möchtest mehr über unsere Werbepartner erfahren? Hier findest du alle Infos & Rabatte! https://linktr.ee/alles_auf_aktien Impressum: https://www.welt.de/services/article7893735/Impressum.html Datenschutz: https://www.welt.de/services/article157550705/Datenschutzerklaerung-WELT-DIGITAL.html

AI isn't here to replace you, it's here to give you time back.Leslie Douglas and Kate Reed walked you through how to use AI to boost productivity in your sales role and beyond.This isn't just about summarizing calls or writing follow-ups. It's about building workflows that help you stay organized, reduce your mental load, and focus on what really moves the needle, both professionally and personally.Learn how to shift your mindset around AI, start small with high-impact use cases, and apply these tools in creative ways that actually make life easier.You'll Learn:How to integrate AI into your daily sales workflowsThe biggest mistakes reps make when prompting AIWays to use AI outside of workThe Speakers: Leslie Douglas and Kate ReedIf you want to catch The Daily Sales Show live, join hereFollow Sell Better to get the latest actionable tactics from sales pros at the top of their gameExplore our YouTube ChannelThank you to our sponsors: ZoomInfo

Most reps get dropped into cold calling with a script and a quota. But the reps who win on the phone? They've got strategy, confidence, and a prep process that sets them up to succeed.Sara Uy and Chelsea Rickman joined us to deliver the cold calling masterclass every rep wishes they got on day one.Learn how to prep smarter, dial with confidence, and pick up the cues that help top reps know when to stick to the script and when to break it.Whether you're just getting started or looking to sharpen your skills, this session is packed with real techniques, mindset tips, and data-backed insights that drive results in today's calling environment. You'll Learn:How to prep for call blocks with intention and confidenceThe mindset shifts top callers use to stay sharp and focusedCold call techniques that work in 2025The Speakers: Sara Uy and Chelsea RickmanIf you want to catch The Daily Sales Show live, join hereFollow Sell Better to get the latest actionable tactics from sales pros at the top of their gameExplore our YouTube ChannelThank you to our sponsors: ZoomInfo

This episode is the audio from our recent webinar on cold email. Armand Farrokh from 30 Minutes to President's Club and Jonathan Mack from ZoomInfo joined us to break down a proven cold email framework and unpack insights from our analysis of 85M+ cold emails with Gong and 30MPC. Check out more free content and get coaching at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://outboundsquad.com.⁠

Henry Schuck, CEO of ZoomInfo (GTM), joins Market On Close to discuss the company after its latest earnings. ZoomInfo is a software and data company helping businesses find and keep customers. Despite beating on earnings, a buyback program, and revising their outlook to positive growth for the year, the stock is down today. He calls his company “the best asset from an M&A perspective” and thinks shares should be trading higher. Henry also talks some of their AI products and use cases.======== Schwab Network ========Empowering every investor and trader, every market day. Subscribe to the Market Minute newsletter - https://schwabnetwork.com/subscribeDownload the iOS app - https://apps.apple.com/us/app/schwab-network/id1460719185Download the Amazon Fire Tv App - https://www.amazon.com/TD-Ameritrade-Network/dp/B07KRD76C7Watch on Sling - https://watch.sling.com/1/asset/191928615bd8d47686f94682aefaa007/watchWatch on Vizio - https://www.vizio.com/en/watchfreeplus-exploreWatch on DistroTV - https://www.distro.tv/live/schwab-network/Follow us on X – https://twitter.com/schwabnetworkFollow us on Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/schwabnetworkFollow us on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/schwab-network/ About Schwab Network - https://schwabnetwork.com/about

It's never been harder to be a CMO—and never more important to get it right. Budgets are shrinking, burnout is rising, and the pressure to deliver pipeline and prove impact hasn't let up. If you're still trying to lead through this alone, you're already behind.Hey there, I'm Kerry Curran, B2B Chief Revenue Officer, Industry Analyst, and host of Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast.In Scale Smarter Under Pressure: How CMOs Win with Peer Collaboration, I'm joined by Kathleen Booth, SVP of Marketing and Growth at Pavilion. We talk about how today's most effective CMOs are navigating change, pressure, and AI disruption—without losing their edge. Kathleen shares what she's seeing across Pavilion's global network of go-to-market leaders and why the ones still winning are focused on three essential pillars:Profitable, efficient growth AI for go-to-market Personal transformation Because resilience isn't a luxury anymore—it's a leadership requirement.We also dive into what makes GTM25, Pavilion's flagship event, different from any other conference out there—and why it's a must-attend for marketing and revenue leaders looking to scale smarter in 2026 and beyond.Be sure to stay tuned to the end, where Kathleen shares a powerful mindset shift that redefines what it means to be a modern CMO—and how to become the strategic growth architect your business needs now.If you get value from this episode, hit follow, drop a quick rating, and send it to someone in marketing, sales, or the C-suite who needs to hear it. Let's go.Kerry Curran, RBMA (00:01.417)Welcome, Kathleen. Please introduce yourself and share your background and expertise.Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (00:06.382)Hey Kerry, thanks for having me on the show. My name is Kathleen Booth. I am the SVP of Marketing and Growth at Pavilion, a global private membership community for go-to-market executives. Our mission is to help go-to-market leaders succeed in their careers at a time when tenures are notoriously short and the pressure is extremely high.Kerry Curran, RBMA (00:33.417)Excellent. Thank you so much for joining today, Kathleen. As we've discussed, I'm a bit obsessed with Pavilion right now. There are so many smart examples, learnings, coursework—just tons of content to up-level executives. But what I love is that it emphasizes that marketing, sales, and customer success must work together to drive revenue and business growth. I know you're talking to a lot of CMOs, CROs, and customer success executives. What are you really hearing today? What are the challenges or what does the marketplace look like for them?Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (01:19.086)The theme word of the year is “uncertainty.” We get a lot of feedback from our members and more broadly. We're living through a time of tremendous pressure on go-to-market leaders in general—and CMOs in particular. It wouldn't be a podcast if we didn't mention AI.Artificial intelligence is transforming everything so quickly, it's difficult to find solid ground. As soon as you think you understand something, it changes again. Data shows buying complexity is increasing. Leadership turnover is high. Legal, regulatory, and geopolitical instability make it hard to predict even six months out.Recent data from G2 shows vendor shortlists are shrinking—from four to seven options previously, to just one to three now. That makes it harder to even get considered. Marketers have to step up brand awareness and demand, but budgets are under pressure.According to Gartner, only 24% of CMOs say they have enough budget to execute their strategy. Marketing budgets as a percent of total revenue are down 11% from 2020. The challenges are growing, but our toolset is shrinking. Then there's AI. It brings promise—but also complexity.Salesforce found that marketers see AI as both the top opportunity and the top challenge. One person called it a “proble-tunity.” Around 75% of marketers have experimented with AI, and marketing is seen as the most advanced department when it comes to adoption. But only 32% say they're using it adequately.And the result of all of this? Burnout.Gartner's CMO Leadership Vision report shows that marketers facing high levels of change are twice as likely to experience burnout. We're all feeling it. To make it worse, only 14% of CMOs are viewed as effective at shaping markets—a skill that's crucial for hitting revenue targets.All of this suggests the modern CMO must be commercial, creative, and AI-powered. We're in a first-principles moment where we need to rethink what marketing organizations look like, how to build go-to-market motions, and what role AI should play.We can't just be storytellers or data crunchers. We need to be strategic growth architects.Kerry Curran, RBMA (06:10.941)Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree. To your point, where the CMO was once seen as the creative or visual lead, now marketing is more directly connected to revenue. McKinsey did a study a year and a half ago saying companies that put marketing at the core of their growth strategy outperform their peers.Then in June, they released another study saying the biggest challenge for CMOs now is getting closer to the CFO—earning respect at the leadership table. And you're right: it can't all be done by AI. It's not just branding and communications anymore. It's more complex—and CMOs have more demands, tighter budgets, and higher expectations.What frustrates me is that it still falls to the CMO to educate the rest of the executive team on the value of marketing. I know Pavilion does a great job helping upskill and educate executives—especially in marketing and sales. What's the solution? How are you solving this? And how should leaders outside of marketing be thinking about it?Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (07:49.068)At the start of the year, we identified three cross-cutting themes for the Pavilion community—not just for marketing. And they've held up, even with how much has changed.First is “profitable, efficient growth.” This speaks directly to marketers needing to understand the P&L and get closer to the CFO to make smarter bets.Second is “AI for go-to-market.” Unsurprisingly, we have to lean in. I love that marketers are seen as AI leaders within their organizations. If we can solidify that position, it's not just job security—it's a way to lead from the front. We should be saying, “I'm out ahead of this, and I'm bringing the company with me.”The third theme—maybe a little “woo-woo”—is “personal transformation and resiliency.” Because it is hard. The stress is real. You and I were talking before we started recording about unplugging for vacation. That's not just a luxury—it's essential. We can't teach people how to take care of themselves, but we can remind them that it matters just as much as staying on top of AI.Kerry Curran, RBMA (09:54.183)Yeah, definitely. I love those three pillars—and they truly are cross-cutting. Can you go deeper on how Pavilion is helping marketers in each area? I know you're doing a lot with AI onboarding, upskilling, and coursework. And yes, marketers are definitely carrying the torch there.Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (10:24.046)Sure! One way to encapsulate it is with our flagship event: GTM2025. It's happening September 23–25 in Washington, D.C. (you can learn more at attendgtm.com). It brings our members together to share perspectives and preview where our “product”—which is really an experience—is heading.For marketers specifically, we have a dedicated sub-community led by incredible members. They host regular roundtables because—let's be real—the landscape is changing too fast for blogs and newsletters to keep up. You need peers. You need the hive mind.Then, tied to profitable, efficient growth, we have our CMO School—teaching what it takes to be world-class. GTM2025 will feature sessions on P&L fluency, leadership, and more.AI and GTM is a huge theme. The entire conference focuses on “AI and the Future of GTM.” It's not just a buzzword—every speaker is talking about how it's transforming their work. We're also teaching specific courses on building an AI-augmented go-to-market team: tools, workflows, and real-world examples.For the personal transformation side, we're one of the only conferences with a wellness room—sound baths, guided meditations. We also include topics outside the typical ABM and ad campaign tracks. This year, our keynotes reflect that.One I'm super excited about is Will Guidara, author of “Unreasonable Hospitality.” He was GM of Eleven Madison Park—the world's first vegan Michelin-starred restaurant. The book is about how hospitality—not just great food—helped them become the best restaurant in the world. It's surprisingly a business book: process, customer orientation, service. He'll talk about hospitality as a driver of business excellence.Then we have Henry Schuck, CEO of ZoomInfo. They just changed their NASDAQ ticker to GTM—so they're clearly committed to go-to-market alignment. I'm excited to hear his perspective.We'll also feature Noelle Russell, author of “Scaling Responsible AI.” AI is still the Wild West, and we need to understand the guardrails. What are we accountable for as adopters?Finally—and this is a first—we're hosting a geopolitical keynote panel because the event is in D.C. We can't talk go-to-market strategy and ignore what's happening with the economy, regulation, supply chains, tariffs, and labor.Our panel features Josh Barro and Megan McArdle—both independent, balanced journalists—plus one more speaker TBD. They'll focus on facts, implications, and how leaders should incorporate them into strategic planning.And for those who prefer to skip political talk, don't worry—the bar opens early!Kerry Curran, RBMA (17:47.997)Yes! That is so relevant for what's on business leaders' minds—especially CMOs. I love that you're hitting every angle. From hospitality and customer-centricity to AI and global context—it's all interconnected. And I'm especially excited for the Women's Summit the day before.Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (19:00.758)Yes! Anne and Lindsay—leaders of our Women of Pavilion community—have built something special. They led our first Women's Summit last year, and it was incredible. This year's agenda is entirely member-driven, sourced from our networks, and centered around the real issues facing female leaders.Kerry Curran, RBMA (19:40.647)Lindsay was a guest on the podcast—she's brilliant. And Anne as well. Every event and session I've attended has been so thoughtful. Kathleen, this has been incredibly valuable. For listeners unfamiliar with Pavilion, can you share what resources and support it provides?Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (20:08.110)Of course. Pavilion is a private membership community for go-to-market executives and aspirants. We offer:- A private Slack community with functional groups- 50+ local chapters around the world- Pavilion University (with CMO School, GTM School, AI School, etc.)- Career services, job board, mentorship- Events: GTM, CMO Summit, local dinners, and moreIt's about creating a trusted peer network, providing operator-built education, and fostering connection. That's how we support leaders through this new GTM era.Kerry Curran, RBMA (21:34.439)Totally agree. I joined in March and wish I had joined sooner. The coursework has brought structure and rigor to initiatives I previously had to figure out on my own. The peer learning is incredible. And the dinners are next-level—I'm headed to one in Boston tomorrow. Last time we joked we should build a better CRM on a cocktail napkin.Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (22:45.709)I love that.Kerry Curran, RBMA (22:56.605)We're clearly biased, but for those thinking about how to grow and lead in today's GTM world, what should they be focusing on?Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (23:15.118)I'll close with some data and advice: 84% of leaders believe their company's identity will need to significantly change in the next five years. That's massive.CMOs are well-positioned to lead that change—if they step up:First, build cross-functional leadership muscles. Pavilion excels at this. It's not just about marketing—it's learning to partner with sales, CS, ops.Second, shape the market. Be the narrative builder and operationalize brand trust. With AI exploding, brand is having a renaissance. CMOs must lead here.Third, guide the customer experience. We've talked about hospitality, but post-sale is more important than ever. Marketing needs to drive loyalty, retention, and evangelism.With AI and product data, we can now create truly personalized journeys—at scale. That opens a world of opportunity.Kerry Curran, RBMA (27:01.095)So many valuable points. Thank you for joining us today, Kathleen! How can people learn more about GTM2025, Pavilion, or connect with you?Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (27:19.886)You can learn more at joinpavilion.com and attendgtm.com. And feel free to connect with me on LinkedIn—just mention you heard this podcast!Kerry Curran, RBMA (27:40.585)Thank you! Looking forward to seeing you in September.Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (27:45.623)I can't wait.Thanks for listening to Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast. If Kathleen's insights resonated with you and you're ready to stop leading in a vacuum, remember this: the best CMOs aren't doing more—they're doing it smarter, together. If you got value from this episode, do me a quick favor: hit follow, leave a rating, and share this with someone in marketing, sales, or the C-suite who needs to hear it.And don't miss the event of the year for go-to-market leaders: GTM2025, hosted by Pavilion. It's where marketing, sales, and customer success executives come together to connect, learn, and lead what's next. Register today at attendgtm.com.If you want more growth frameworks, peer strategies, and go-to-market insights, head to revenuebasedmarketing.com or connect with me, Kerry Curran, on LinkedIn. More powerhouse episodes are coming soon, so stay tuned and keep scaling smart. Flat or slowing revenue? Let's fix that—fast.Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast delivers the proven plays, sharp insights, and “steal-this-today” tactics that high-growth teams swear by.Follow / Subscribe on Apple, Spotify, and YouTubeTap ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ if the insights move your metrics—every rating fuels more game-changing episodes

Cold calls can go sideways fast, but top SDRs don't panic, they pivot.Mesha Wright joined us for a high-energy, session where we spin the Cold Call Roulette wheel and drop into real scenarios: surprise objections, new personas, tricky moments like pricing or the close.See exactly how to reframe pushback, match tone to ease tension, and reset permission when the conversation derails.Walk away with a repeatable playbook to handle cold call chaos, with creativity, control, and zero scripts.You'll Learn:How to reframe objections in real timeTone techniques to build instant trustPermission resets that steer calls backThe Speakers: Will Aitken and Mesha WrightIf you want to catch The Daily Sales Show live, join hereFollow Sell Better to get the latest actionable tactics from sales pros at the top of their gameExplore our YouTube ChannelThank you to our sponsors: ZoomInfo

Guest: Vaughn English   Guest Bio: Vaughn English is a growth-focused sales leader with over 10 years of experience driving revenue across industries including digital marketing, 3D visualization, tourism, and insurance. He has a proven track record of building high-performing outreach strategies, leading cross-functional teams, and closing complex B2B deals. Vaughn specializes in leveraging CRM platforms, marketing automation, and creative campaigns to engage prospects and accelerate the sales cycle. From launching national tourism campaigns to scaling 3D content solutions for enterprise clients, he brings a consultative approach that aligns client goals with actionable solutions. Vaughn thrives at the intersection of strategy, creativity, and execution, consistently turning opportunities into lasting partnerships. ​ Key Points: Background and Path to Sales Started in theater; transitioned to sales due to communication skills and confidence. First job: selling DirecTV inside Costco, a challenging experience that taught resilience. Gradually moved into more prestigious roles, now at Fracture.   Role at Fracture Tasked with building the B2B infrastructure from scratch, including identifying the ideal customer profile (ICP), creating case studies, lookbooks, product menus, and developing marketing and outreach processes.   Finding the Ideal Customer Profile (ICP) Initially targeted hospitality, but realized sales cycles are very long. Exploring design firms and higher education as more promising ICPs. Higher ed (e.g., Boston College) often needs ongoing art installations, recognition plaques, etc., making them strong repeat buyers.   CRM and Sales Technology Strong proponent of using CRMs despite challenges. Believes CRMs are essential for organizing contacts and outreach, launching automated email campaigns, and tracking sales activity.    Sales Outreach Strategy Focuses heavily on cold email campaigns. Personalized and well-researched. Uses intent data (from sources like ZoomInfo, Bombora) to identify companies showing buying signals. Example: campaign to Ben & Jerry's using their "Flavor Graveyard" as a custom subject line. Warm leads via email before calling; cautious about cold calling personal cell phones (though interviewer disagrees).   Team Dynamics and Management Style Small team (essentially 2 people); the other focuses on account management. Balances trust with light micromanagement, uses CRM visibility (e.g., BCCs, task tracking) to monitor activity, steps in when new leads aren't followed up quickly enough. Believes in hiring people he can trust to reduce the need for hovering.   Challenges and Learnings Struggles with ensuring consistent follow-up on new leads while handling large ongoing projects. Building out processes and infrastructure in real-time while scaling the B2B arm. Emphasizes that real ICP identification comes through direct conversations and testing. Guest Links: vaughn.english@fractureme.com Connect on LinkedIn     About Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders Download your free gift, The Salesology® Vault. The vault is packed full of free gifts from sales leaders, sales experts, marketing gurus, and revenue generation experts. Download your free gift, 81 Tools to Grow Your Sales & Your Business Faster, More Easily & More Profitably. Save hours of work tracking down the right prospecting and sales resources and/or digital tools that every business owner and salesperson needs. If you are a business owner or sales manager with an underperforming sales team, let's talk. Click here to schedule a time. Please subscribe to Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! To learn more about our previous guests, listen to past episodes, and get to know your host, go to https://podcast.gosalesology.com/ and connect on LinkedIn and follow us on Facebook and Instagram, and check out our website at https://gosalesology.com/. 

Most reps wait too long or reach out too soon.But Chris Cozzolino has a better solution, let engagement lead the way. He joined us to show how LinkedIn likes, comments, and content can signal the right time to start a conversation.Learn how to track activity, spot intent, and send messages that actually land. Chris walked through his exact approach, including before/after examples and tactical prompts you can steal. You'll Learn:What engagement signals to monitorHow to write messages based on content interactionWhy targeting active users lead to better conversion ratesThe Speakers: James Buckley and Chris CozzolinoIf you want to catch The Daily Sales Show live, join hereFollow Sell Better to get the latest actionable tactics from sales pros at the top of their gameExplore our YouTube ChannelThank you to our sponsors: Zoominfo

Social selling isn't just posting content or chasing engagement. If your LinkedIn strategy stops at vanity metrics, you're leaving pipeline on the table.Darren McKee, known for turning scrolls into sales, breaks down what actual social selling looks like. We talked DM scripts, timing, tone, and how to move from comments to booked meetings.Walk away with tactical moves to connect with your ICP, start real convos, and turn your presence into pipeline. You'll Learn:Mistakes that damage your social selling strategyHow to turn engagement into meetingsScripts + timing to move from DM to dealThe Speakers: James Buckley and Darren McKeeIf you want to catch The Daily Sales Show live, join hereFollow Sell Better to get the latest actionable tactics from sales pros at the top of their gameExplore our YouTube ChannelThank you to our sponsors: ZoomInfo

At this point, most people are using AI in some capacity. But nearly everyone struggles with getting the most out of it.This session broke down what makes a great prompt and why most reps aren't getting the full value out of AI in their sales workflow. You'll see real examples, rewritten live.Learn prompt structures that actually work, watch side-by-side output comparisons, and walk away with proven ways to use AI for cold emails, discovery prep, and more.You'll Learn:What makes a good vs bad promptLive demonstration and prompt re-writesCreative prompts anyone can use in their sales processThe Speakers: Jed Mahrle and Kyle VamvourisIf you want to catch The Daily Sales Show live, join hereFollow Sell Better to get the latest actionable tactics from sales pros at the top of their gameExplore our YouTube ChannelThank you to our sponsors: ZoomInfo, Goldcast and Refine Labs

Think the VP is always the decision maker? In many buying teams, the person with the title isn't always the one with the power.Ali Schwanke and Tom Alaimo show how top reps go beyond Sales Nav basics and uncover who's really driving the deal. You'll get actionable ways to map accounts creatively, decode social signals, and build momentum from the first touch to the final “yes.”Walk away knowing how to reach the real decision makers and how to avoid getting ghosted on the way.You'll Learn:How to spot influence vs. authoritySmart ways to map accounts creativelyHow to ladder up from first reply to final “yes”The Speakers: Leslie Douglas, Ali Schwanke and Tom AlaimoIf you want to catch The Daily Sales Show live, join hereFollow Sell Better to get the latest actionable tactics from sales pros at the top of their gameExplore our YouTube ChannelThank you to our sponsors: ZoomInfo and Aligned

In today's rapidly evolving sales landscape, lead generation remains a top priority for Chief Revenue Officers and sales leaders. But with the rise of AI, changing buyer behaviors, and an overwhelming array of tools and technologies, how can sales teams effectively navigate this complex terrain? In this episode of the Modern Selling Podcast, I sit down with Zach Jones, Chief Revenue Officer at TechnologyAdvice, to explore the cutting-edge strategies and tools that are reshaping the lead generation game. With over a decade of experience in scaling sales teams and driving revenue growth, Zach offers invaluable insights into the current state of B2B sales and marketing. Adapting to the New B2B Buyer Journey One of the most significant shifts we discuss is the changing nature of the B2B buyer journey. Zach highlights that: 75% of the buyer journey now happens before someone wants to talk to sales 86% of buyers start with a shortlist of vendors 92% of purchases come from that initial shortlist This means that awareness and early education are more critical than ever. Sales and marketing teams need to focus on getting on that shortlist through strategic content placement and engagement across various channels. The Rise of AI in Sales and Marketing Artificial Intelligence is not just a buzzword – it's reshaping how we approach lead generation and engagement. Zach shares eye-opening statistic: There's been a 240% increase in page views from ChatGPT to their websites since January This shift towards AI-driven content creation and research is changing how buyers find and evaluate vendors. Sales teams need to adapt their strategies to ensure they're visible and relevant in this new AI-powered landscape. From Funnel to Rooms: A New Perspective on Lead Nurturing Zach introduces an interesting concept of thinking about lead nurturing not as a funnel, but as two rooms: Prospects who are ready to talk to a vendor Prospects who are not ready The key is figuring out how to move prospects from the "not ready" room to the "ready" room. This approach requires a more dynamic and personalized marketing strategy, leveraging AI and intent data to create tailored experiences for each prospect. Actionable Takeaways for Sales Leaders Experiment with new technologies and strategies – don't be afraid to break things Focus on niching down and segmenting your audience for more personalized outreach Leverage AI tools to level the playing field and enhance your team's capabilities Align your sales and marketing strategies based on your target market and how they buy Consider implementing an Account-Based Experience (ABX) approach for enterprise sales As the B2B sales landscape continues to evolve, staying ahead of the curve is crucial. By embracing new technologies, focusing on personalization, and adapting to changing buyer behaviors, sales teams can position themselves for success in this dynamic environment. Timestamped Summary of this Episode: 00:00:00 The Rise of AI in Content Creation AI tools like ChatGPT are becoming increasingly popular for content creation and personalization. Marketers are focusing on delivering more relevant, timely messages to smaller, engaged audiences rather than high volume outreach. The shift towards AI-driven personalization is changing how companies approach lead generation and engagement. 00:01:07 Introducing Zach Jones: CRO of TechnologyAdvice Zach Jones, Chief Revenue Officer at TechnologyAdvice, shares his background and the company's role in connecting tech marketers with B2B buyers. TechnologyAdvice operates multiple digital media properties and offers services like content creation, digital advertising, lead generation, and buyer intent intelligence.  00:03:27 From Punk Pop to B2B Sales: Zach's Surprising Past Zach reveals his unexpected background as the frontman of a punk pop band in college. This experience, while not impressing his future wife, showcases Zach's diverse background before entering the B2B sales and marketing world. 00:05:19 Evolving Lead Generation Landscape The lead generation landscape is shifting due to economic changes and emerging technologies. Key trends include niching down to target smaller, engaged audiences, leveraging AI for personalization, and adapting to the changing demographics of B2B buyers, with millennials and Gen Z now dominating. 00:08:18 Adapting to Modern Buyer Journeys Marketing and sales teams are adapting to new buyer journeys by embracing diverse media channels like podcasts, YouTube, and newsletters. The focus is on meeting buyers where they are and providing relevant content throughout their decision-making process, rather than relying solely on traditional lead generation methods. 00:10:11 Effective Sales and Marketing Tools While some companies are cutting back on tools, certain platforms like Sixth Sense and ZoomInfo continue to deliver ROI. The trend is moving towards efficiency and proven value rather than accumulating multiple tools. New opportunities in forums, Reddit, and connected TV are emerging as ways to engage buyers. 00:12:50 Key Metrics for Evaluating Tools CROs should prioritize usage and adoption rates when evaluating tools. Pipeline generation and productivity improvements are also crucial metrics. The focus should be on how tools increase efficiency and drive tangible results rather than just adding more features. 00:17:37 Intent Data and Personalized Engagement Leveraging intent data and behavioral analytics is crucial for identifying and engaging high-potential leads early in the buyer's journey. TechnologyAdvice is developing an AI-driven "intent to lead" model that creates personalized, timely outreach based on prospect behavior across their ecosystem. 00:32:40 Rethinking the Sales Funnel The traditional sales funnel concept is evolving into a two-room model: prospects are either ready to talk to a vendor or they're not. The focus is on moving prospects from "not ready" to "ready" through personalized, dynamic marketing across various channels and touchpoints. 00:36:42 Tailoring Strategies to Audiences and Verticals There's no one-size-fits-all approach to sales and marketing strategies. Leaders must consider factors like product type, sales motion, and target market to determine the most effective channels and tactics. Account-based experience (ABX) is becoming increasingly important for enterprise sales. 00:40:18 Advice for CROs: Experiment and Personalize CROs should focus on testing new approaches, leveraging AI, and personalizing experiences for target accounts. The key is to be willing to experiment, niche down, and use available tools effectively to stand out in a competitive landscape. 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This episode is the audio from our recent webinar on multi-threading. Heath Barnett of Mixmax, Amber Smith, and Karen Hor of ZoomInfo joined us to share how top reps increase their win rates by 2-3x, shorten sales cycles, and drive expansion by mastering multi-threading. Check out more free content and get coaching at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://outboundsquad.com.

Show Notes: Alex Lugosch and Ilya Druzhnikov, founders of True PMF, explain that True PMF is a rapid prototyping and discovery service for startups and established companies who are releasing a new product or testing a new market and don't have the tools or six to eight months to try new experiments for product market fit. The firm uses cold calling tools to test out different ideas and pitches to potential clients, focusing on understanding the reactions of potential buyers. Ilya explains how their tool saves time and money by improving the cold call process. First Steps in a Cold Call Strategy Alex and Ilya work with a founder to identify their target audience and use tools like ZoomInfo to gather a list of people that fit that profile. They then use cold calling tool to test out different ideas and iterate different pitches to potential clients. They also train the founder to do cold calls, helping them understand the process and find what resonates with potential buyers. The firm often stacks rank lists of 20 audiences to test in the next 20 days, with each experiment taking about two sessions of an hour each. At a certain point, they do turnover, where the founder takes over to learn how to do the process. They use several list building services, data validation services, and dialers to build tight lists, accessing many people at the C-suite that most founders can only dream of contacting. Within one or two calls, they find that those people are picking up on their pitches and talking to them, which is a significant improvement from the traditional six-month process of trying to determine if something is a product market fit. The Cold Call Conversation and Analysis Ilya explains the process, beginning from when they contact the founder, building the initial list, finding direct phone numbers for 80-100 people, and loading them into their enterprise-grade tech stack that few startups can afford.  He goes on to explain how they start the conversation.  They try to make the pitch relevant to the founder and explain that their solution could save time and money while having a positive impact on the bottom line. After the call, the transcript goes directly into the AI model, which produces an analysis of the conversation and offers recommendations on how to proceed. The next step is to determine the outcome of the call. In a typical calling session, there are sometimes upwards of 14 or 15 connects. As the conversation gets closer to the target, the conversations become more rich, with more follow-up emails, scheduled demos, and referrals. It's an iterative process until discovering the audience is interested in the topic and/or the call can be referred to the right person. Cold Calling Techniques The conversation turns to the importance of effective cold pitching techniques. They mention the importance of recognizing what's currently relevant to the client. They also discuss the concept of partnering one person to take a pitch and then alternate to the other person without giving feedback. The key to getting better at cold pitching is focusing on the elements that work in the previous pitch. This technique can be applied to other situations as well, such as listening to each other's tone of voice and understanding their preferences. Alex emphasizes that these techniques are not meant to scale sales but to provide relevant information about messaging and product features that can be used in outbound campaigns that are scalable, such as emails, LinkedIn messages, or conferences. Ilya and Alex give an impromptu example of an opening conversation with mid-market private equity owned portfolio companies. Ilya explains that their informs more effective marketing strategies. This approach helps clients narrow down their ideas about the persona, develop stronger content that connects with their target market(s),  and ensures that their marketing efforts are highly effective. Cost of SDRs Cold Calling The discussion revolves around the cost of cold calling sales development representatives (SDRs) and their effectiveness in B2B product spaces. Emphasis is placed on understanding the messaging and the potential for managing costs. They mention a company with 400 clients across Europe that raised over $50 million and had six SDRs, but none of them were effective. They also mention that a multinational tech startup with a large B2B sales team cannot afford six CROs to run their sales team. They advise against giving cold calls to unskilled SDRs, as they may not be adaptable enough to handle complex situations. However, cold calling is a good prototyping tool, as it allows companies to reach a wider audience, gain insights and understanding of their market, and potentially increase their revenue. Examples of How TruePMF Serves Clients Alex and Ilya initially focused on high-growth e-commerce brands, but later discovered that they needed to target established e-commerce brands looking for margin expansion. They created a new list of these brands and tested it with CTOs, which proved more relevant. Then, they called private equity partners, specifically tech stack operating partners, to expand their reach. This allowed them to sell their solution across multiple brands. Another example is a smaller company with 20 clients, all big enterprise clients, looking to sell to private equity firms. Ilya also discusses the process of selling a product before building it, and emphasizes the importance of honesty and transparency in the sales process.   About the Founders of TruePMF.com Alex Lugosch, a FinTech founder and executive at a wholesale, e-commerce company, and the B2B credit space, and Ilya Druzhnikov, a serial entrepreneur and angel investor, have both been working with founders and CEOs to help them understand Product Market Fit. They have worked in various industries, including B2B wholesale, e-commerce, and angel investing. The website, Pmf.com, is by referral only, and they have a bias for working with serious people who are serious about their business. They require founders to attend every call, including the CEO, Chief Revenue Officer, and Head of Sales. The company has sold their product to 400 companies across Europe and is coming to the United States. Timestamps: 00:02: Introduction to True PMF and Their Unique Approach 03:28: Explaining the True PMF Service  06:35: Detailed Walkthrough of the Process 10:47: Iterative Improvement and Audience Targeting  16:29: The Role of Cold Calling in Business Development  34:04: Client Examples and Success Stories  40:23: Background of Alex and Ilya  Links:  Website: https://truepmf.com/ Unleashed is produced by Umbrex, which has a mission of connecting independent management consultants with one another, creating opportunities for members to meet, build relationships, and share lessons learned. Learn more at www.umbrex.com.

This episode is the audio from our webinar on objection handling. We were joined by Will Aitken, Founder of WillAitken.com, Jack Wauson, GTM Team Lead at Mixmax, and Abdulla Casino, Manager of Sales Development at ZoomInfo. Check out more free content and get coaching at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://outboundsquad.com