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Welcome to Season 8 of The Eat for Endurance Podcast! In this episode, I'm joined by Registered Dietitian Leslie Schilling, MA, RDN, CSCS, CEDS-C for an important conversation about exercise dependence, a pattern of compulsive movement that can threaten an athlete's mental and physical health.I heard Leslie speak on this topic at a conference and immediately knew I wanted to bring her on the show. This is partly because I struggled with exercise dependence in the past, and also because of how frequently I see people exercise beyond what is safe or recommended. Leslie and I discuss:What exercise dependence is, and who is most at riskHow to tell if exercise is healthy or potentially harmfulWhat Leslie's message, "If you fuel it, you can do it" means in practiceThe connection between underfueling and over exerciseSigns that you might be weight suppressedWhat compassionate change can look likeAlso, toward the end of the episode, we walk you through a validated questionnaire to help you evaluate if you may be experiencing some level of exercise addiction.
Podcast: Exploited: The Cyber Truth Episode: 2026 ICS Security Predictions: What's Next for Critical InfrastructurePub date: 2025-12-30Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationAs industrial control systems become more connected, more Linux-based, and more exposed to IT-style threats, 2026 is shaping up to be a turning point for ICS security. In this end-of-year predictions episode of Exploited: The Cyber Truth, host Paul Ducklin is joined by RunSafe Security Founder & CEO Joseph M. Saunders and CTO Shane Fry to discuss what will define ICS and critical infrastructure security in 2026. The episode explores a bold prediction: We will see a major ICS breach originating from a web application vulnerability running directly on an embedded control device. As full Linux operating systems, Node.js apps, and web servers increasingly appear inside OT equipment, long-standing IT vulnerabilities are colliding with systems that are difficult—or impossible—to patch. Joe and Shane dig into why detection-only strategies fall short in constrained, long-lived devices, and why secure by design engineering, memory safety, and runtime protections are becoming essential. They also discuss the importance of accurate, build-time Software Bills of Materials, especially as regulations like the EU Cyber Resilience Act push manufacturers toward transparency, accountability, and provable supply-chain visibility. Together, they cover: Why ICS exploitation is shifting from theoretical to operationalHow web app and RCE vulnerabilities are creeping into OT devicesThe limits of detection-only security strategiesWhy memory safety and runtime protections reduce exploitable riskHow build-time SBOMs improve vulnerability tracking and trustThe podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from RunSafe Security, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.
In this solo episode of Keeping Abreast, Dr. Jenn Simmons delivers a clear, evidence-based breakdown of modern breast cancer screening and prevention. She explains why so many women are confused about breast health and how outdated screening practices, lack of informed consent, and drive fear rather than clarity.Dr. Jenn distinguishes between screening and diagnostic imaging, emphasizing that screening for healthy, asymptomatic women should be safe. She introduces innovative, non-radiation screening tools including the Auria Tears Test, which identifies inflammatory precursors to breast cancer, and the QT Scan, a pain-free, radiation-free 3D imaging technology.The episode addresses common concerns around mammograms, biopsies, dense breasts, estrogen, and hormone replacement therapy.In This Episode, You'll Learn:The difference between screening and diagnostic breast imagingWhat mammograms do - and don't - actually tell youHow inflammation shows up before breast cancer developsHow the Auria Tears Test identifies early inflammatory riskHow the QT scan can be used for screeningWhether biopsies can cause cancer to spreadHow estrogen and hormone replacement fit into breast healthEpisode Timeline Highlights:00:00 Introduction to Breast Health Awareness01:57 Understanding Mammograms: Screening vs. Diagnostic09:11 Innovative Screening Methods: QT and Auria Test16:20 The Importance of Breast Cancer Awareness17:55 The Future of Breast Cancer Screening23:07 Biopsy Safety and Dense Breasts28:13 Debunking Myths: Estrogen and Breast Cancer32:01 Hormone Replacement Therapy: A Health Plan PerspectiveTo talk to a member of Dr. Jenn's team and learn more about working privately with RHMD, visit:https://calendly.com/stephanie-1031/discovery-callTo get your copy of Dr. Jenn's book, The Smart Woman's Guide to Breast Cancer, visit: https://tinyurl.com/SmartWomansBreastCancerGuideTo purchase the auria breast cancer screening test go here https://auria.care/ and use the code DRJENN20 for 20% Off.Connect with Dr. Jenn:Website: https://www.realhealthmd.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DrJennSimmonsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/drjennsimmons/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@dr.jennsimmonsTo talk to a member of Dr. Jenn's team and learn more about working privately with RHMD, visit: https://jennsimmons.simplero.com/page/377266?kuid=327aca17-5135-44cf-9210-c0b77a56e26d&kref=vOKy0sAiorrKTo get your copy of Dr. Jenn's book, The Smart Woman's Guide to Breast Cancer, visit: https://tinyurl.com/SmartWomansBreastCancerGuideTo purchase the auria breast cancer screening test go here https://auria.care/ and use the code DRJENN20 for 20% Off.Connect with Dr. Jenn:Website: https://www.realhealthmd.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DrJennSimmonsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/drjennsimmons/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@dr.jennsimmons
In this Deep Dive episode of The Trip Lab, we unpack hyperlipidemia (high cholesterol) beyond the oversimplified “LDL bad, HDL good” narrative. We also take a clear-eyed look at the most common concerns people have about statins, what the evidence actually shows, and where these medications fit—and don't fit—within a thoughtful, individualized approach to cardiovascular risk.From there, we explore integrative strategies for managing elevated cholesterol and why, for many patients, lifestyle, metabolic health, and inflammation-targeted interventions may be more effective than medications alone.In this episode, we discuss:Why cholesterol is biologically essential and not inherently pathologicalThe limitations of relying on LDL alone to assess cardiovascular riskHow inflammation, insulin resistance, genetics, hormones, and lifestyle influence lipid metabolismWhen elevated cholesterol truly signals disease—and when it may reflect a compensatory or adaptive responseThe role of advanced markers such as ApoB, Lp(a), hsCRP and CAC scoresWhy risk stratification—not fear-based medicine—should guide clinical decision-makingWhat statins can (and cannot do) and we break down the concerns people have with themWhy integrative approaches (nutrition, exercise, herbal options and mind-body medicine) truly treat the root cause of diseaseThis episode is for clinicians, patients, and anyone looking to move beyond simplistic cholesterol narratives toward a more nuanced, evidence-based understanding of cardiovascular health.
Why Stronger Isn't Always Better: Rethinking Performance Training for Young Athletes with Matthew McKayIn youth sports, performance training often prioritizes strength, dominance, and early specialization — but at what cost?In Part 1 of this two-part series, Matthew McKay returns to the FAKTR Podcast to challenge some of the most common assumptions in youth performance training. This conversation reframes what “success” actually looks like for developing athletes and why chasing strength numbers too early can quietly undermine long-term health, consistency, and performance.Rather than focusing on short-term dominance, this episode explores how movement quality, training age, and foundational strength skills play a far more critical role in helping young athletes stay healthy and competitive over time.This episode is essential listening for healthcare providers, strength coaches, athletic trainers, and anyone working with middle school and high school athletes.In This Episode, You'll Learn:Why strength should be treated as a skill before it's treated as a metricHow early performance gains can mask poor movement quality and compensationThe risks of prioritizing dominance over durability in young athletesWhy many youth training programs unintentionally increase injury riskHow movement patterns reveal readiness, limitations, and future risk long before pain appears
What if the leaders of the next health revolution aren't doctors or scientists but four teenagers? In this uplifting and powerful episode of ReInvent Healthcare, Dr. Ritamarie sits down with the Ansari brothers, Abdullah (18), Zain (14), Emaad (12), and Qasim (10), known as The Holistic Kids. These young wellness advocates are authors, podcasters, and national speakers, inspiring their peers to take ownership of their physical and mental health.With chronic illness, anxiety, and metabolic dysfunction rising fast among youth, this conversation is a beacon of hope and a call to action. Discover how these boys went from health challenges to health leaders, what role their mom played in the transformation, and why they believe any teen (and any parent) can be part of the solution. If you're a parent, practitioner, or educator who cares about the future of healthcare, this is a must-listen episode.What's Inside This Episode?The sobering statistics that sparked these teens' mission and why the next generation's health is at riskHow four teenage boys transformed their health with real food and root-cause thinkingThe top challenges teens face today and how to solve them without medsWhy parents and practitioners need to rethink how we engage youth in their health journeySurprising strategies that helped improve mood, sleep, confidence, and performanceA teen-led perspective on health freedom and personal responsibilityResources and Links:Download our FREE Guide to Customize your Food Plan for Health and Longevity Join the Next-Level Health Practitioner Facebook group hereVisit INEMethod.com for training and tools to grow your practiceCheck out more podcast episodes hereThe Holistic Kids' Resources and Links:Visit their website: TheHolisticKidsShow.com Check out their books, including:The Teen Health Revolution: TheTeenHealthRevolution.comAdam's Healing Adventures TheTeenHealthRevolution.comGrab their free gift: Dessert Recipe CookbookListen to their podcast:iTunesSpotifyFind them on social media platforms:Instagram: @holistickidsshowFacebook:https://www.facebook.com/theholistickidsshow/Guest BioAbdullah, Zain, Emaad and Qasim Ansari, 17,14,12,10, are the hosts of The Holistic...
The State of Illustration Report with Darren Di Lieto | Episode 65What does the illustration industry really look like right now — beyond highlight reels, social media, and shiny success stories?In this episode, I talk with Darren Di Lietto, founder of Hireillo and the author of the State of Illustration report. For more than a decade, Darren has been surveying illustrators around the world to better understand how we work, how we get paid, and how sustainable illustration actually is as a career.We have an honest conversation about confidence, pricing, late payments, mental health, and the quiet pressures shaping illustrators' lives today. We talk about who's best positioned to thrive, where illustrators are struggling most, and why so many are being squeezed out early on in their careers.I was surprised, and honestly a little bit depressed by the numbers in the report—but Darren helps me see some of the positive takeaways as well.
In this episode, Nathan Fabian, Chief Sustainable Systems Officer at the PRI, examines rising economic inequality and why it poses a material, systemic risk for long-term investors. He is joined by Delaney Greig (Director of Investor Stewardship, University Pension Plan Ontario), Emma Douglas (Sustainable Investment & Stewardship Lead, Brightwell; BT Pension Scheme), and David Wood (Adjunct Lecturer in Public Policy, Harvard Kennedy School).Together, they explore how inequality affects economic stability, corporate performance, long-horizon portfolio returns, and what asset owners can do to respond.OverviewTen years after the adoption of the SDGs, inequality is increasing across major economies. The top 1% now holds over 40% of global wealth, and widening gaps in income, labour rights and access to opportunity are shaping economic and political outcomes.The guests discuss:Why inequality is a non-diversifiable, systemic riskHow it undermines growth, resilience and productivityThe implications for diversified investorsThe interplay between inequality, climate, nature and social outcomesHow asset owners can use stewardship, integration and policy engagement to address key driversDetailed Coverage1. Why inequality matters for investorsDelaney and Emma outline why rising inequality threatens long-term returns: weakening demand, increasing volatility, reducing workforce resilience, and fuelling political instability. Both highlight evidence linking excessive pay gaps and poor labour practices to weaker corporate performance.2. What the research showsDavid summarises major findings from the IMF, OECD and others showing that inequality constrains growth rather than accelerates it. He notes that investors have clearer data and frameworks today than ever before, and that social issues have become central to responsible investment.3. Making inequality actionableEmma discusses a new analysis tool developed with Cambri to map social risks across sectors, revealing under-examined areas such as technology, media and natural-resource-intensive industries.Delaney explains UPP's “top-and-bottom guardrails” approach, engaging on excessive executive pay at the top and fundamental labour rights at the bottom.4. Stewardship, integration and policyThe panel discusses:Embedding social risks into investment processesSector-level prioritisationCollective action on labour rightsThe emerging TISFD standardHow investors should (and should not) engage in political debates around taxation, labour markets and redistribution5. Looking aheadGuests reflect on:Strengthening investor–manager dialogueIntegrating inequality into capital allocation decisionsOpportunities in areas such as affordable housingAddressing market concentration and competition issuesThe need for aligned, collective advocacy from asset ownersChapters(0:00) - Introduction: Economic Inequality and Investment Risk (2:29) - Delaney Greg: Why Inequality Matters for Pension Plans (4:50) - Emma Douglas: Systemic Risk and Investment Opportunities (7:16) - David Wood: Research on Inequality and Growth (9:21) - Understanding the Drivers of Economic Inequality (11:51) - Emma's Approach: Using Data and AI for Social Risk Analysis (15:01) - Delaney's Strategy: Top-End and Bottom-End Guardrails (17:55) - Measuring Impact and Defining Success in Inequality Work (20:16) -...
Is your practice trying to grow—but your EMR or billing setup just can't keep up? Dr. Heather breaks down why the wrong system can silently drain revenue, increase denials, and stall growth. You'll learn:Which EMRs actually help practices thriveWhy letting your billing company control your software is a huge riskHow to protect your AR and get cleaner reportingThe simple setup that keeps your practice running like a well-oiled machineStop spinning your wheels—tune in and set your practice up to win the race!
How to talk to the Vengeful Martyr, Evasive Expert, Divisive Immortal, Hungry Shapeshifter, Righteous Bully, and The NothingIn this second part of the “Communicating with Villains” series, Kristina and Anna get very practical about how to actually talk to people who are running these archetypes, including when you are the one in the villain seat.They move from real stories about teeth, genetics, and breast health into concrete language, strategies, and “do not do this” warnings for each villain.This is the “how to handle them in real life” episode.In this episodeKristina and Anna explore:How the Vengeful Martyr shows up in health, caregiving, and self neglectWhy dental and breast health can become a mirror for martyrdomThe role of Divisive Immortal catastrophizing in medical decisions and safetyHow to make choices that are logical, not fear based, even around cancer riskHow to actually talk to:Evasive ExpertDivisive ImmortalHungry ShapeshifterRighteous BullyThe Nothing / Invisible DestroyerThey also name the difference between doing “self work” on your villain and learning to stay in relationship with someone else's.The Vengeful Martyr: health, teeth, and breast tissueAnna shares:How her “Vengeful Martyr era” lined up with sleep deprivation, breastfeeding, and her first major dental issuesThe realization that she invests in visible hygiene and beauty, while neglecting things no one sees, like gums, pap smears, and internal healthA concrete shift: flossing, water picking, changing dentists, and choosing a provider who does not shame herA genetic test that revealed increased risk for breast cancer and skin cancer, and her decision to act now rather than “martyr” herself by ignoring itWhy she is seriously considering prophylactic bilateral mastectomies as an act of self nourishment, not fearKristina reflects on:The symbolism of breasts as sources of nourishment and pleasure, and what it means to “retire” the functional side of them in order to care for the selfHow the Nourisher legend of the Vengeful Martyr is “drink while you pour,” and how that plays out in real bodies and real choicesThe overlap between Vengeful Martyr and Divisive Immortal when it comes to health, anxiety, and medical systemsDivisive Immortal: fear, loyalty, and catastropheThey unpack:How the Divisive Immortal can show up as catastrophizing doctors, shaming providers, and rigid ideas about safetyThe Enneagram 6 “loyal skeptic” flavor, and how loyalty plus fear becomes rigidityThe difference between making a logical preventive decision and making a fear based decisionHow two people can face the same medical risk but be activated in different villains, one in Vengeful Martyr, one in Divisive ImmortalCommunication tips for Divisive Immortal:Avoid “us versus them” language and triangulationEmphasize “you and me versus the problem”Reassure safety and solidaritySay things like:“I feel the fear you are feeling, and I understand it”“I am not your enemy, we are on the same team”“Our relationship is bigger than this argument”Evasive Expert: logic, avoidance, and emotional shutdownFor the Evasive Expert, Kristina and Anna cover:How they over rely on logic and under express emotion, or explode when emotion finally leaks outClassic tells: “I do not know how I feel,” or answering questions with cerebral analysisWhy approaching them with pure emotion makes them disappearCommunication tips for Evasive Expert:Lead with logic, not dramaPresent the impact as a logical chain: “A and B happened, which led to C and D, can you see why I might be upset”Use “logic puzzles” to pierce the emotional shellIn full blow up mode, give them time to process, then return with calm, structured reasoningHungry Shapeshifter: attention, performance, and multiplicityFor the Hungry Shapeshifter, they discuss:The need for attention, lightness, and performanceHow calling out their shifting identities can feel humiliating, not helpfulWhy dramatic outbursts are often releases, not always indicators of deep relational ruptureCommunication tips for Hungry Shapeshifter:Let them perform, be the audience rather than the critic in the momentNotice patterns over time, not just one dramatic sceneWhen they are calm and grounded, take them more seriously than in full performance modeInvite coherence by asking, “Which part of you feels most true right now”Righteous Bully: conviction, protection, and curiosityFor the Righteous Bully, Anna shares how working this arc has changed what even triggers her, and why things that used to set her off no longer land.They cover:The intensity and danger of the Righteous Bully when they have reached their limitHow they will burn things down to protect what they love or believe inThe shift from externalized bullying to internalized self criticismCommunication tips for Righteous Bully:Be deeply curious, not defensiveReflect their point of view back accurately so they feel heardUse permissive language:“Would you be open to hearing my perspective”“My love for you is bigger than this disagreement”Do not try to tell them they are wrong in the heat of the moment, it only adds fuelLater, you decide whether you want a Righteous Bully in your life, even a more integrated oneThe Nothing / Invisible Destroyer: avoidance, presence, and tiny actionsFor The Nothing, they highlight:Question deflection, disappearing into thought, and vanishing from shared spacesDeep sensitivity to rejection and criticismDifficulty taking action, even when they intellectually understand the issueCommunication tips for The Nothing:Name and value their presence: “It means so much just having you in the room with me”Invite tiny actions, “Can we take one small step toward this together”Use humor and embodiment practices to bring them back into their bodiesUse the compliment–criticism–compliment “sandwich” if feedback is neededWhen they disappear after a big top, lure them back with low pressure, body doubling, and no heavy processing at firstAdvertising Inquiries: 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You have already built a life and career you are proud of. Now it is time for your money to work just as intentionally as you do.In this episode, Liz reveals a suite of strategic real estate investing pathways designed for women who want passive, efficient, and high-ROI wealth building without managing tenants, coordinating contractors, or stepping into the fix and flip grind.If you are in a season where your time, privacy, and financial sophistication matter more than taking on another responsibility, this conversation gives you the clarity and confidence to grow your wealth without adding more to your day.Inside this episode, you will learn:How hard money lenders create strong, predictable returns even when they are not using large amounts of their own capitalWhat real estate syndications are and how they allow women to participate in larger, more stable assets while reducing individual riskHow to earn from property management by leveraging teams who run operations for youWhy land and tax delinquent opportunities create long term upside with minimal involvementHow modern real estate crowdfunding platforms allow you to diversify across projects and markets at almost any investment levelThis episode is created for the woman who values clarity, results, efficiency, and legacy. If you want proven, recession tested strategies that build wealth without overwhelm, this is your next step
Send us a textIn this powerful and timely episode of the Gotta Be Saints Podcast, I'm joined by Dr. Charles “Charlie” Camosy — moral theologian, bioethicist, and author of Living and Dying Well (order here).Charlie shares deep insights into the cultural push toward physician-assisted killing, why our society is at a “tipping point,” and how the Catholic vision of life and death offers a radically hopeful alternative rooted in dignity, community, and love. Drawing from Church teaching, real-world data, and his father's own end-of-life journey, Charlie shows how we can resist the throwaway culture and accompany the sick and elderly with compassion and purpose.Whether you're caring for aging parents, worried about dementia, or simply wondering what it means to “die well” as a disciple of Jesus, this conversation reframes aging and dying as invitations to deeper love.In this episode, Charlie shares:Why some states are pushing physician-assisted killing — and why others still strongly resistWhat “autonomy” really means in our cultural momentWhy the poor, disabled, and marginalized are most at riskHow consumerism distorts our view of productivity and worthWhat it truly means to live and die well in Christian communityHow demographic trends and the dementia crisis complicate end-of-life careHow Catholics can build a counterculture of hospitality, encounter, and hopeIf you've ever asked yourself…How do I support a loved one who fears being a burden? What does the Church actually teach about assisted suicide? How do I walk with aging parents with dignity and charity? What does resisting the throwaway culture look like at the end of life? …then this episode is for you.Learn MoreExplore more of Charlie's work: charlescamosy.comTruthlyThis episode is sponsored by Truthly — the first Catholic action app helping you reflect, learn, and share your faith confidently. Start your free trial with code gottabesaints: truthly.aiFollow Gotta Be SaintsInstagram: @gottabesaints Subscribe and leave a review to help others discover the call to holiness. Support the show
In a world filled with alarming headlines, market swings, and nonstop economic commentary, how can you stay financially grounded? In this episode of You and Your Money, WHZ Senior Partner and Chief Investment Officer Laurence Hale joins host Gary to break down how to separate media noise from meaningful financial insight.From the ongoing government shutdown and shifting tariff policies to inflation updates, rate cuts, and market volatility, Laurence explains why the most attention-grabbing stories often lack the context needed for good decision-making. He uncovers what's really happening beneath the headlines—and why long-term planning, discipline, and emotional awareness matter far more than day-to-day market moves.Listeners will learn:Why markets often behave differently than the headlines suggestHow tariff announcements, shutdowns, and rate decisions actually impact investorsThe difference between volatility and true long-term riskHow behavioral finance shapes our reactions—and how to avoid costly emotional decisionsWhy “time in the market” consistently beats “timing the market”The three questions to ask yourself before reacting to any financial news storyLaurence also shares practical guidance on navigating uncertainty, including how a written financial plan can act as an anchor during turbulent times.If you want to worry less, plan smarter, and keep your financial life on track no matter what's in the news cycle, this episode will give you clarity—and confidence.- Subscribe to the You and Your Money podcast- Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and YouTube- See how we can create a tailored financial strategy to help you live with Absolute Confidence, Unwavering Partnership, For Life: whzwealth.com
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We often hear minimizing phrases like “It only happened once” or “Why make such a big deal out of it?” The intention may be to calm fears or move forward quickly—but instead, it often creates more confusion, pressure, and disconnection.In this episode of From Crisis to Connection, Geoff and Jody unpack why “just once” almost never feels small to either partner, and why minimizing actually blocks healing instead of speeding it up.Why “just once” lands as dismissal for the betrayed partner and activates the body's threat responseHow minimizing traps the recovering partner in shame and prevents genuine repairThe hidden pressure this phrase puts on the betrayed partner to get over it quickly and silence their own instinctsThe truth behind one-time breaches: even a single betrayal communicates capability, vulnerability, and riskHow couples get stuck in collusion, both wanting to move on but feeling unsafe or unheardWhat healthy repair looks like instead: honest conversation, space to ask questions, and freedom to explore impactEven if a behavior happened only once, its meaning is never small. One act communicates capacity, shifts safety, and opens the door to doubt. Real healing starts when both partners face the truth openly—not when they minimize it.______________________________Download the Free Resource: You, Me, Us - A Way Forward After BetrayalWhen betrayal has shaken your relationship, it can feel impossible to know where to begin. This free 15-minute video and companion worksheet will help you steady yourself, support your partner, and begin caring for the relationship between you. Get your copy here.______________________________Join the Courageous Together™ ProgramCourageous Together™ isn't just another course, it's a trauma-informed roadmap that holds both of you in the healing process. You'll have access to:A structured healing framework with step-by-step guidanceVideo lessons and worksheets to build safety, accountability, and connectionThe option to join live group circles and support calls with meA private, secure community of others walking the same pathLearn more and join us inside Courageous Together: www.geoffsteurer.com/courageous-together______________________________Stay ConnectedWebsiteYouTubeInstagramFacebookIf this episode resonated with you, please share it with someone who might need it. And don't forget to leave a review! We'd love to hear how this podcast is supporting your healing journey.______________________________Watch on YouTubePrefer video? You can watch full episodes of From Crisis to Connection on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/@FromCrisistoConnectionPocast.______________________________About Geoff SteurerI am a licensed marriage and family therapist and Certified Clinical Partner Specialist (CCPS) with 25+ years of experience helping individuals and couples heal from the devastation of sexual betrayal and broken trust. I am the founder of the Courageous Together program, co-host of the From Crisis to Connection podcast, and co-author of Love You, Hate the Porn. My work integrates trauma-informed care, attachment theory, and practical tools for creating lasting safety and connection. I've been married to my wife, Jody, since 1996 and we are the parents of four children.About Jody SteurerJody is the co-host of the From Crisis to Connection podcast, where she brings her thoughtful, common-sense perspective to conversations about healing, trust, and connection. She earned her bachelor's degree in psychology from Brigham Young University and is an ACA-certified coach. Jody has years of experience in corporate training, small business leadership, and family life, and raising four children (two of them neurodivergent). She loves watercolor painting, landscape design, spending time outdoors, and snow skiing.
Send us a textBoard Certified Advanced Diabetic Management Physician Assistant Mary Robinson joins us to chat about all things prediabetes. Our topics included:Defining prediabetes Who is at riskHow it is diagnosedConsequences of untreated prediabetesMyChart test resultsResources for managing prediabetes
LISTEN and SUBSCRIBE on:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/watchdog-on-wall-street-with-chris-markowski/id570687608 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2PtgPvJvqc2gkpGIkNMR5i WATCH and SUBSCRIBE on:https://www.youtube.com/@WatchdogOnWallstreet/featured Trump's $35 million investment in an Alaskan mining company sounds patriotic—but it's crossing into dangerous territory. In this episode:How the Trump administration took a 10% government stake in Trilogy Metals—and an option for moreWhy “fighting China” shouldn't mean becoming China with government-owned industriesThe long history of public-private “partnerships” that enrich the elite while taxpayers take the riskHow socialism always benefits the wealthy—from Carnegie to “too big to fail” to today's Big ClubWhy government should permit business, not own it—and how this move blurs conservative linesEven if the goal is national security, government equity in private companies is socialism in disguise—and it's a bad look for an administration that promised to drain the swamp.
Text Me!Have you ever told yourself, “It's just one glass, it can't hurt”? The truth is, even small amounts of alcohol come with hidden health risks, especially for women. From cancer risk to anxiety, poor sleep, and faster aging, that nightly glass of wine costs more than you think.In episode 243 of the Sober Vibes Podcast, I'm pulling back the curtain on the silent costs of “just one glass” and why being honest about alcohol is the first step to real freedom. If you've been bargaining with yourself or stuck in the moderation cycle, this conversation will help you shift your sober mindset and see why quitting for good is worth it.What You'll Learn In This Episode:The link between light drinking and higher cancer riskHow alcohol disrupts hormones, sleep, and increases alcohol-induced anxietyWhy “just one” fuels poor rest and the cycle of alcohol relapse The connection between alcohol and aging, and why your skin changes after quitting The emotional exhaustion of trying to drink less alcohol, but never feeling at peace How a sober coach can give you the tools and accountability to stop bargaining with yourselfIf you're telling yourself “just one glass” isn't a big deal, this episode will show you the truth and remind you that freedom, confidence, and health are waiting on the other side.Listen now: The Silent Costs of “Just One Glass”: Alcohol and Health Risks Every Woman Should Know (and How to Quit Drinking for Good)And if you're looking for help quitting alcohol, that's exactly what I do in my coaching sessions. Together, we'll build habits and tools that actually work so you don't have to white-knuckle sobriety alone.Resources Mentioned:Sober 1:1 Coaching The Sobriety Circle The After-Emotional Sobriety GuideSubscribe to the Sober Vibes Podcast on YouTubeFree ResourcesGhost Mugs In the Flow Book Episode 201 with BriaPODCAST SPONSOR:This episode is sponsored by Soberlink, a trusted accountability tool for anyone navigating early recovery. Whether you're rebuilding trust with loved ones or want more structure in your sobriety, Soberlink offers a discreet and empowering way to stay on track.Sober Vibes listeners, sign up HERE and claim our $100 Enrollment Bonus.Grab my Masterclass for Free:Gain access to my Thank you for listening! Help the show by Rating, Reviewing, and/or Subscribing to the Sober Vibes Podcast. Connect w/ Courtney:InstagramJoin the Sobriety Circle Apply for 1:1 CoachingOrder the Sober Vibes Book
Democrats have a plan—and it's NOT to help you.... From Wes Moore on Fox News to Zohran Mamdani in NYC! From killing small businesses to flooding our borders to letting criminals run free, Marxist leaders in the Democrat Party are waging war on capitalism, safety, and sovereignty. In this explosive Pop & Politics segment, we expose the anti-capitalist, pro-open borders, and soft-on-crime agenda that's destroying the very communities Democrats claim to protect.From crippling job growth with overregulation, to open border chaos that slashes wages and strains housing, to lawless streets under soft-on-crime policies—this isn't incompetence, it's chaos by design. #foxnews #trump #wokeculture #reactionvideo #marxism #openborders #illegalimmigration #elizabethwarren
In this episode of Keeping Abreast, Dr. Jenn Simmons welcomes Dr. Hania Bednarski, a breast surgeon pioneering cryoablation as an alternative to conventional breast cancer surgery.For decades, breast cancer treatment has changed little—yet Dr. Bednarski is forging a new path, reducing trauma while preserving women's wholeness. She shares her journey from trauma and hand surgery into breast care, and ultimately into cryoablation. Together, she and Dr. Jenn explore why this approach matters, how it's performed, and what it means for the future of breast cancer care.The conversation challenges assumptions about mammograms, chemotherapy, lymph node surgery, and hormones. Both physicians stress the importance of autonomy, personalized treatment, and a future where patient choice—not rigid protocols—guides care.This episode is essential for women navigating breast health, practitioners curious about new frontiers, and anyone passionate about transforming medicine from invasive to empowering.In This Episode, You Will Learn:How Dr. Bednarski's career led her to cryoablationWhy conventional surgery can cause lasting traumaWhat cryoablation is, how it works, and who it helpsWhy informed consent and patient choice matterThe pitfalls of mammograms and over-diagnosisHow cryoablation may engage the immune systemWhy lymph node surgery is diagnostic—not curativeThe truth about estrogen and breast cancer riskHow financial incentives block innovation
Bullying is a fear every parent carries — but for thoseof us raising children on the autism spectrum, there's a deeper layer. What if it happens… and they can't tell us?In this episode, I'm talking about why our kids are morevulnerable to bullying, the signs you might see (especially if your child is non-speaking, minimally verbal, or non-communicative), and how to move from that gut-punch emotional reaction into clear, confident action.We'll cover:Why autistic children are more likely to be targetedThe signs that something might be happening —even when they can't tell youThe role that the desire for friendships plays in bullying riskHow to document, report, and advocate effectively Strategies for prevention, self-advocacy, and building confidence If this is one of your biggest fears — I see you. AndI'm here to help you protect your child and give you the tools to act, even in the face of the unknown.Tune in for actionable advice and heartfelt encouragement, because you are not alone on this journey!
Scrappy ABM shares an insightful crossover from the Becoming a Hiring Machine podcast, where Mason Cosby joins Sam Kuehnle to discuss how account-based marketing (ABM) principles create stability, profitability, and scale for recruiters. Mason explains why ABM is the most efficient way to do B2B, how ethical selling drives conviction, and why niching down can lead to stronger positioning and better customers. Through his own experience building Scrappy ABM from the ground up, Mason reveals how to replace bad clients with high-value partnerships, increase lifetime value, and build a predictable pipeline without adding unnecessary expenses or headcount.Listeners will hear two powerful frameworks — the account progression model and the four D's of ABM — along with practical advice on pricing, targeting, and scaling. This episode equips recruiters and service businesses with the mindset and tools to transform their growth strategies while avoiding the pitfalls of traditional acquisition methods.
In this episode of the AlchemistX Innovators Inside Podcast, Ian Bergman sits down with Roey Eliyahu and Michael Nicosia, co-founders of Salt Security—the company that pioneered the API security category. Together, they break down the early decisions that helped them go from idea to industry-defining solution.Roey shares how he went from coding at nine in Israel's cybersecurity units to buying a one-way ticket to Silicon Valley with a bold pitch and a few thousand dollars. Michael recounts how their first four-hour meeting turned into a lasting partnership. What followed was a masterclass in customer discovery, iterative product development, and relentless market education.Key takeaways include:How to pitch a complex idea with clarity and impactWhy discovering your APIs is just the beginning of managing riskHow to qualify early adopters and validate product-market fitThe mindset shift required to sell innovation into large enterprisesThe critical role of posture governance in modern cybersecurityHow Salt Security aligned internal incentives with real customer outcomesFrom crawling to running in the API security space, Roey and Michael offer hard-won lessons in navigating ambiguity, building trust with enterprise buyers, and scaling a product that protects some of the world's biggest companies.If you're building a startup or buying enterprise tech, this conversation is packed with strategy, insight, and inspiration.For more episodes and resources, visit https://www.alchemistaccelerator.com/podcasts.
In this third episode of our series with Kennedy Intelligence, host Brent reunites with Alex Klein and Tom Rodenhauser to break down why “Client Love” alone won't scale your consulting firm past $30M. They share hard-won insights and practical strategies for shifting from founder-driven relationships to scalable, value-based client engagement.Key topics covered include:The limitations of client satisfaction as a growth metricWhy firms get stuck in the ‘friends and family' trapFrameworks for pushing back on unprofitable client demandsTackling client concentration riskHow to measure what really mattersOur listeners receive exclusive preferred rates on Kennedy's market research, strategic advisory, performance improvement benchmarking and M&A services that are tailored to leaders of professional services firms. Just reference Kantata and you will receive preferred pricing on any of their assets or services. Go to kenneyintel.com to learn more. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Episode Highlights With KatieWhy sunlight is essential for mitochondria and cellular energyThe role of light in hormone balance, mood, sleep, and immunityWhy the right kind of light exposure reduces disease riskHow to safely and effectively get sun (without fear)Myths about sunscreen, windows, and indoor lightingTactical shifts to optimize circadian biology and light signalingResources MentionedBlue light blocking bulbsBlue light blocking glassesDaylight computer
On this week's episode of The Terrific Teacherpreneur, I'm diving into the key tasks in your business that will boost your sales. When life has you juggling a million things, you don't have time to waste. The strategies I share today are all about streamlining your efforts for maximum profit.In this episode, I cover:How my own life changes have reshaped how I approach my businessA powerful analogy for understanding the payoff of different business tasksWhy every task in your business comes with its own riskHow to prioritize your time based on where you are in your business journeyWhere I focus the majority of my time right nowHow to use analytics to pinpoint the tasks that bring the highest returnThis episode is packed with tips to help you make the most of your time by focusing on what brings in the most money!- Like what you're hearing? Feel free to leave a review for this podcast!- Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast so that you don't miss an episode!Interested in learning more about TPT, Pinterest, or email marketing? Check out my TPT seller courses here!
In this episode of Cyber Talks, Greg Crowley and Dwayne Smith delve into the critical role of cybersecurity in mergers and acquisitions (M&A). They discuss how cyber risks can significantly affect company valuations and the challenges that arise during these transactions. Dwayne shares his experiences, highlighting the importance of educating stakeholders about potential security issues that could derail deals. The conversation emphasizes the need for robust security measures, including identity management and threat intelligence, to mitigate risks and ensure successful integrations. Topics discussed include:The impact of security breaches and incidents on M&A valuation and deal termsWhat red flags can derail a merger or acquisition (privacy incidents, regulatory violations, unresolved breaches)The most useful cybersecurity metrics and reports for due diligenceReal-world examples of integrating security tools and policies post-acquisition—and lessons learnedThe role of threat intelligence and dark web monitoring in uncovering hidden riskHow to avoid post-acquisition surprises related to legacy code or unsupported infrastructureTop security investments sellers should make to maximize future valuation--Have a question for us? Reach out: hello@esentire.com---About Cyber TalksFrom ransomware attacks to supply chain compromises, eSentire's Cyber Talks podcast will delve into the world of the latest cyber threats that are impacting businesses globally. Join our team of security experts as we speak with C-level executives and security practitioners about the cyber risks affecting their business and how they're addressing these challenges.About eSentireeSentire, Inc., the Authority in Managed Detection and Response (MDR), protects the critical data and applications of 2000+ organizations in 80+ countries, across 35 industries from known and unknown cyber threats by providing Exposure Management, Managed Detection and Response and Incident Response services designed to build an organization's cyber resilience & prevent business disruption. Founded in 2001, eSentire protects the world's most targeted organizations with 65% of its global base recognized as critical infrastructure, vital to economic health and stability. By combining open XDR platform technology, 24/7 threat hunting, and proven security operations leadership, eSentire's award-winning MDR services and team of experts help organizations anticipate, withstand and recover from cyberattacks. For more information, visit www.esentire.com and follow @eSentire.
Thoughts on Record: Podcast of the Ottawa Institute of Cognitive Behavioural Therapy
Comments or feedback? Send us a text! Clinicians will often hear their clients express deeply felt needs, only to admit they've never shared them with their partner—usually due to fear of vulnerability or a defensive, adversarial dynamic that makes intimacy feel unsafe. In today's episode, we are joined by Dr. James Cordova—Professor of Psychology at Clark University and creator of The Relationship Checkup—to discuss his new book, The Mindful Path to Intimacy. Dr. Cordova's book offers a powerful framework for understanding and transforming these relational patterns through the lens of mindfulness, compassion, and shared vulnerability.In our conversation, we explore:Why intimacy is often more terrifying than people expect—and why it's worth the riskHow mindfulness can serve as both a spiritual and relational practiceThe idea that attention is the most basic form of loveWhy many couples shift from infatuation to frustration, and what can be done about itHow interpersonal neurobiology helps us understand the push-pull of closeness and withdrawalWays to navigate shame, trauma histories, and fear of being fully seen in loveWhat distinguishes couples who flourish from those who simply coexist. Dr. James Cordova is a Professor of Psychology at Clark University and the creator of The Relationship Checkup, a pioneering, preventative intervention designed to assess and strengthen couples' relationships before problems escalate. He has led major research initiatives—including a $1.3M Department of Defense-funded RCT with Lt. Colonel Jeffrey Cigrang and a $1M NIH grant—demonstrating the model's effectiveness in both military and civilian populations. As founder and president of Arammu: The Relationship Checkup, Inc., Dr. Cordova is scaling this approach nationwide, training over 1,000 military counselors and integrating the model into primary care. He is the author of The Marriage Checkup, The Story of Mu, and The Mindful Path to Intimacy, the latter of which offers mindfulness-based tools for cultivating emotional and spiritual connection.To learn more about Dr. Cordova and his work, visit:http://www.arammu.comOr check out his latest book, The Mindful Path to Intimacy, from Guilford Press.
Thoughts on Record: Podcast of the Ottawa Institute of Cognitive Behavioural Therapy
Comments or feedback? Send us a text! Clinicians will often hear their clients express deeply felt needs, only to admit they've never shared them with their partner—usually due to fear of vulnerability or a defensive, adversarial dynamic that makes intimacy feel unsafe. In today's episode, we are joined by Dr. James Cordova—Professor of Psychology at Clark University and creator of The Relationship Checkup—to discuss his new book, The Mindful Path to Intimacy. Dr. Cordova's book offers a powerful framework for understanding and transforming these relational patterns through the lens of mindfulness, compassion, and shared vulnerability.In our conversation, we explore:Why intimacy is often more terrifying than people expect—and why it's worth the riskHow mindfulness can serve as both a spiritual and relational practiceThe idea that attention is the most basic form of loveWhy many couples shift from infatuation to frustration, and what can be done about itHow interpersonal neurobiology helps us understand the push-pull of closeness and withdrawalWays to navigate shame, trauma histories, and fear of being fully seen in loveWhat distinguishes couples who flourish from those who simply coexist. Dr. James Cordova is a Professor of Psychology at Clark University and the creator of The Relationship Checkup, a pioneering, preventative intervention designed to assess and strengthen couples' relationships before problems escalate. He has led major research initiatives—including a $1.3M Department of Defense-funded RCT with Lt. Colonel Jeffrey Cigrang and a $1M NIH grant—demonstrating the model's effectiveness in both military and civilian populations. As founder and president of Arammu: The Relationship Checkup, Inc., Dr. Cordova is scaling this approach nationwide, training over 1,000 military counselors and integrating the model into primary care. He is the author of The Marriage Checkup, The Story of Mu, and The Mindful Path to Intimacy, the latter of which offers mindfulness-based tools for cultivating emotional and spiritual connection.To learn more about Dr. Cordova and his work, visit:https://relationshipcheckup.comOr check out his latest book, The Mindful Path to Intimacy, from Guilford Press.
Professional Builders Secrets brings you an exclusive episode with Andy Skarda, Head Coach at APB. In this live recording from the International Builders Show in Las Vegas, Andy unpacks the art and science of cash flow mastery for building companies. Andy shares why cash flow is the number one reason builders struggle to scale, and explains how to create a sustainable system that protects your business long term.This episode is sponsored by Apparatus Contractor Services, click the link below to learn more:hubs.ly/Q02mNSsG0INSIDE EPISODE 194 YOU WILL DISCOVER Why cash flow is the lifeblood of any construction businessThe biggest mistakes builders make with their cash and financial riskHow to build 12 months of cash reservesThe critical role of an experienced bookkeeper and what questions to ask themHow understanding your true numbers will change how you operateAnd much, much more.ABOUT ANDY SKARDAHead Coach at the Association of Professional Builders, Andy specialises in helping business owners in the building industry identify and implement the skills and systems they need to be successful, without needing to go back to school. Or more importantly, without going bust.Connect with Andy: linkedin.com/in/andy-skarda-92a6875/TIMELINE 2:00 Why cash flow is the lifeblood of a building company5:30 How builders accidentally run a Ponzi scheme9:00 The importance of daily and weekly cash monitoring13:00 The consequences of not knowing your numbers17:30 Building cash reserves for peace of mind21:00 Practical tips for finding the right bookkeeperLINKS, RESOURCES & MOREAPB Website: associationofprofessionalbuilders.comAPB Rewards: associationofprofessionalbuilders.com/rewards/APB on Instagram: instagram.com/apbbuilders/APB on Facebook: facebook.com/associationofprofessionalbuildersAPB on YouTube: youtube.com/c/associationofprofessionalbuilders
Episode Highlights With JessicaWhy does cardiovascular disease risk rise in menopause to match the rate of men?What happens to hormones and the heart when a woman goes through menopause?45% of women have some marker of cardiovascular diseaseHow the loss of estrogen in menopause is the tipping point1 in 3 women will die of cardiovascular disease which is more than all cancers combinedWhat to monitor and look out for starting in our 20s50% of people in the US have high blood pressure and this is a marker of metabolic diseaseHow insulin comes into play and why this marker is so importantWhat metabolic markers to start tracking to know your riskHow visceral fat comes into play and why this is importantWhat causes visceral fat to accumulate in the bodyHer take on microdosing GLP-1 medication and if you lose lean muscleResources MentionedThe Loving Diet - websiteJessica's Instagram
Back with Part 2 of our deep dive into the most overrated golf swing concepts—and this time we're tackling two of the BIGGEST myths we see destroying amateur swings: bowing the wrist at the top and shaft lean obsession at impact.If you've ever tried to "fix" your slice by bowing the wrist like DJ, or you're chasing perfect shaft lean because you saw it in a slow-mo Tour pro video, this episode is for you. We unpack the real mechanics behind these moves and explain why they often do more harm than good for regular golfers.You'll learn:Why bowing the wrist reduces lag and adds injury riskHow the best players don't actually use extreme wrist anglesThe dangers of overdoing shaft lean and the myths of “perfect impact”Why recreating Tour visuals often leads to Shank CityWhat to do instead: trail wrist mechanics, grip, and natural motionThis isn't theory—it's data-backed, lesson-tested, and brutally honest. Drop the “Instagram drills” and find out what really works.
Episode Highlights With DaniHer 24 years spent with chronic lifestyle diseases like IBS, Lupus, urticaria, and othersShe was 24 years in before a doctor asked what she was eating If you were born healthy… you do not have to live sick!How quickly the body can adapt when given the right inputsHealing is incredibly simple, but not easyShe starts with diet first and then builds from there… the importance of single-ingredient foodsReal food goes bad… auditing your food choices, and cooking is self-careThe top seven most inflammatory foods in the modern diet and why she does food sensitivity testImportance of sleep and how if we don't sleep, we don't healBallroom dancing is the number one way to decrease Alzheimer's and dementia riskHow data shows that community is extremely important to healthWe are a nation of empty vessels Rest and self-care are so important, and we often forget these- you cannot serve from an empty vesselResources MentionedDani Williamson - WebsiteWild & Well: Dani's Six Commonsense Steps to Radical Healing by Dani Williamson
In this episode of Excess Returns, Matt Zeigler sits down with Peter Atwater—President of Financial Insyghts, author of The Confidence Map, and expert on decision-making under uncertainty. Peter lays out a bold and timely framework: in a world led by dominant nationalist figures, global corporations—and their investors—must now navigate a high-stakes game of being labeled either beneficiaries or victims. This conversation digs deep into how these dynamics shape capital flows, investor sentiment, policy risk, and the future of globalization.
In this episode, Dr. Carolyn Moyers breaks down the latest original research from the April 2025 issue of Obstetrics & Gynecology, focusing on the long-term cardiovascular biomarker changes in women who participated in the Women's Health Initiative Hormone Therapy Trials. What does this mean for real-life patients considering hormone therapy? Are there age-related risks? What's the deal with triglycerides?Dr. Moyers explores the clinical relevance of these findings, limitations of the data, and the questions that still remain—offering an evidence-based, patient-centered perspective for women navigating menopause and their heart health.
In this Q&A episode, Mikael answers listener questions on training, physiology, long-term athlete development, and more. There are lots of practical tips and takeaways relevant to a wide range of athletes and contexts. HIGHLIGHTS AND KEY TOPICS: How to get as fast as possible at middle-distance triathlon as a 19-year-oldHow to quantify training load and monitor response to loadKey metrics to monitor for overtraining riskHow to select bike cadence when using cycling as cross-training for runningHeart rate drift during Zone 2 cyclingDiscrepancies between cycling and running heart ratesDETAILED EPISODE SHOWNOTES: We have detailed shownotes for all of our episodes. The shownotes are basically the podcast episode in written form, that you can read in 5-10 minutes. They are not transcriptions, but they are also not just surface-level overviews. They provide detailed insights and timestamps for each episode, and are great especially for later review, after you've already listened to an episode. Naturally, as great as they are, they do not cover absolutely everything in as great detail as we can do in a 45-90 minute podcast episode. The shownotes for today's episode can be found at www.scientifictriathlon.com/tts463/LINKS AND RESOURCES: Critical Power/Speed and training zones calculatorWHAT SHOULD I LISTEN TO NEXT?If you enjoyed this episode, I think you'll love the following episodes: High intensity, running power, suffering capacity, bias in training prescription (Q&A) | EP#447Q&A with Lachlan Kerin | EP#438Q&A (supersized holiday edition) | EP#422You can find our full episode archives here, where you can filter for categories such as Training, Racing, Science & Physiology, Swimming, Cycling, Running etc.You can also find separate archives for specific series of episodes I've done, specifically Q&A episodes, TTS Thursday episodes, and Beginner Tips episodes. LEARN MORE ABOUT SCIENTIFIC TRIATHLON: The Scientific Triathlon website is the home of That Triathlon Show and everything else that we doContact us through our contact form or email me directly (note - email/contact form messages get responded to much more quickly than Instagram DMs)Subscribe to our NewsletterFollow us on InstagramLearn more about our coaching, training plans, and training camps. We have something to offer for everybody from beginners to professionals. HOW CAN I SUPPORT THAT TRIATHLON SHOW (FOR FREE)? I really appreciate you reading this and considering helping the show! If you love the show and want to support it to help ensure it sticks around, there are a few very simple things you can do, at no cost other than a minute of your time. Subscribe to the podcast in your podcast app to automatically get all new episodes as they are released.Tell your friends, internet and social media friends, acquaintances and triathlon frenemies about the podcast. Word of mouth is the best way to grow the podcast by far! Rate and review the podcast (ideally five stars of course!) in your podcast app of choice (Spotify and Apple Podcasts are the biggest and most important ones).Share episodes online and on social media. Share your favourite episodes in your Instagram stories, start a discussion about interesting episodes on forums, reference them in your blog or Substack. SPONSORS: Precision Fuel & Hydration help athletes personalise their hydration and fueling strategies for training and racing. Use the free Fuel & Hydration Planner to get personalised plan for your carbohydrate, sodium and fluid intake in your next event. That Triathlon Show listeners get 15% off their first order of fuel and electrolyte products. Simply use this link and the discount will be auto-applied at the checkout.
1. “How do you like to qualify whether a buyer actually has the capital to close a deal?”Gut check vs. formal proofDifferences between PE-backed and strategic buyersWhat's reasonable to ask for and when in the process 2. “What are some of the best ways a buyer can demonstrate proof of funds early in a process?”Equity commitment lettersBank letters or balance sheetsFund-level detail for PE buyersIs a LOI ever enough? 3. “When you see a buyer lean heavily on an earnout or seller note, what does that tell you about their financial strength?”Earnouts as risk-transfer vs. alignment toolSign of limited capital vs. aggressive valuationHow to structure a seller note to reduce risk 4. “Have you ever had a deal fall apart because the buyer couldn't come up with the money?”Anecdotes of broken deals or red flags missedWhat should have been asked earlierLessons learned about screening buyers 5. “What questions should sellers be asking to vet a buyer's financial capacity?”Go-to questions to ask PE firms, family offices, strategicsWhat not to ask (or how not to ask it)How advisors help behind the scenes to validate 6. “If a seller gets an offer that looks strong on paper — big multiple, big earnout — what's your advice for validating it's real?”The danger of being ‘seduced by the headline multiple'Discounting for deal structure riskHow to tie offer strength to real-world execution ability 7. “Are there particular red flags you see when a buyer isn't financially credible?”Delayed diligence or ghostingLack of transparency around capital sourceToo many approvals needed — unclear decision-makersOffers contingent on future fundraising 8. “What's the advisor's role in protecting the seller from wasting time with unqualified buyers?”Quietly vetting buyers behind the scenesManaging buyer engagement based on credibilityPulling in references or past deal history 9. “What's your take on PE firms that haven't yet closed a platform in the space — does that change how we qualify them?”Platform vs. add-on credibilityOperational readiness of first-time buyersImportance of fund age and deployment schedule 10. “At what point in the process do you think it's fair for a seller to ask for hard financial evidence?”Pre-LOI vs. post-LOIHow to handle it without offendingWhen to walk if transparency isn't thereRELATED EPISODESEpisode 203: Selling Your Business to an Independent Sponsor. Listen now >>Episode 113: Deal Financing- Scenarios, Options and Implications for Both Sides. Listen now >>Episode 97: Understanding Search Funds as an IT Services Seller. Listen now >>Episode 99: IT Services Sellers: Evaluating the Size of a Buyer. Listen now >> Listen to Shoot the Moon on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.Buy, sell, or grow your tech-enabled services firm with Revenue Rocket.
Send us a textWhat if your uterus looked normal on the outside—but inside, it was glued shut? In this episode of Taco Bout Fertility Tuesday, Dr. Mark Amols breaks down the rarely discussed but deeply impactful condition known as Asherman's Syndrome. From why some women are more likely to develop intrauterine adhesions (think “keloid-level healing”) to how it affects menstruation and fertility, you'll learn everything you need to know.We cover:What causes Asherman's Syndrome and who's at riskHow to know if you have it (hint: it's often missed!)The difference between mild “cobweb” scarring and complete uterine cavity obliterationThe gold-standard treatments, including hysteroscopic surgery, estrogen therapy, and balloon/IUD separationEmerging therapies like stem cells, PRP, and amniotic graftsFertility options beyond surrogacy—including IVF and uterine transplantThe emotional toll of Asherman's and why psychological support mattersWhether you're a patient, a partner, or a medical provider, this is the Asherman's deep dive you didn't know you needed. Don't miss it.Thanks for tuning in to another episode of 'Taco Bout Fertility Tuesday' with Dr. Mark Amols. If you found this episode insightful, please share it with friends and family who might benefit from our discussion. Remember, your feedback is invaluable to us – leave us a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your preferred listening platform. Stay connected with us for updates and fertility tips – follow us on Facebook. For more resources and information, visit our website at www.NewDirectionFertility.com. Have a question or a topic you'd like us to cover? We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us at TBFT@NewDirectionFertility.com. Join us next Tuesday for more discussions on fertility, where we blend medical expertise with a touch of humor to make complex topics accessible and engaging. Until then, keep the conversation going and remember: understanding your fertility is a journey we're on together.
In this episode of Research Renaissance, host Deborah Westphal sits down with Dr. Alberto Serrano-Pozo, Assistant Professor of Neurology at Harvard Medical School, staff neurologist at Massachusetts General Hospital, and a 2022 Toffler Scholar. Together, they explore Dr. Serrano-Pozo's pioneering research into the role of glial cells—specifically astrocytes—and the APOE gene in the development and progression of Alzheimer's disease.Dr. Serrano-Pozo discusses how astrocytes, long overlooked in favor of neurons, are now recognized as key players in maintaining brain health—and how their dysfunction may contribute to Alzheimer's pathology. The conversation also covers the complexities of the APOE gene variants, how recent discoveries are reshaping our understanding of Alzheimer's across different populations, and promising advances in gene-editing research.Dr. Serrano-Pozo also reflects on the dual role he plays as both a researcher and a clinician, how patient interactions inspire his lab work, and why cautious optimism is warranted as new therapies and technologies emerge.What You'll Learn:Why astrocytes are crucial to brain function—and how they change in Alzheimer'sThe evolving understanding of the APOE gene's role in Alzheimer's riskHow glial cells interact with amyloid plaques and tau tanglesWhy certain APOE variants affect populations differentlyAdvances in gene-editing that may offer future protection against Alzheimer'sThe real-world challenges and rewards of balancing clinical practice with researchA hopeful look at the accelerating pace of Alzheimer's research and innovationKey Quotes:
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Are you making investment moves that could unknowingly cross the line into mortgage fraud?In today's episode of the Cash Flow Positive Podcast, Kenny Bedwell breaks down some of the hottest (and riskiest) real estate strategies being pushed today—from seller credits to subject-to deals to buying properties under LLCs. Kenny reveals what's truly legal, what's risky, and what could get investors into serious trouble if not handled properly.Packed with practical examples, actionable advice, and a no-nonsense breakdown of gray areas in real estate, this episode will help you stay compliant, protect your investments, and build a smarter portfolio.If you've enjoyed this episode of the Cash Flow Positive podcast, be sure to leave a review and subscribe today! Listen now and enjoy!In This Episode You'll Learn:Why improperly handling seller credits could land you in legal troubleWhat actually constitutes mortgage fraud—and how to avoid itThe difference between seller concessions and seller creditsWhy working with the wrong agent can expose you to major riskHow "subject-to" deals work—and why they're riskier than they appearWhy buying properties in LLCs doesn't always offer the protection you thinkThe smarter way to move a property into an LLC without hurting your financingHow to set up a safe, compliant strategy when investing in gray areasAnd much more...Resources:Connect with Kenny on LinkedInFollow Kenny on Instagram
The aerospace and defense (A&D) startup scene is exploding with innovation—think next-gen drones, on-orbit servicing, and AI-powered mission planning. But amid all the excitement lies a tough reality: to win the trust of government agencies and established prime contractors, startups must demonstrate operational maturity, transparency, and compliance.In this episode, we unpack insights from The Future of Commerce's latest report on how cloud ERP (Enterprise Resource Planning) is becoming a game-changer for A&D startups. We explore how these systems offer much more than back-office efficiency—they deliver built-in industry best practices, enable regulatory compliance, foster supply chain visibility, and establish the credibility necessary to partner and scale. Whether you're an A&D entrepreneur, investor, or procurement lead, this episode lays out how cloud ERP provides the operational backbone that enables bold innovation to thrive.What You'll Learn in This Episode:
Is keeping your finances separate in marriage putting your relationship at risk? In this episode, we explore why combining finances isn't just a smart money move—it's a crucial step toward building a lasting, unified marriage.We'll cover powerful statistics, expert-backed research, and common misconceptions about money in marriage. You'll discover how financial unity creates trust, simplifies decision-making, and protects your relationship from one of the top causes of divorce: money conflicts.This episode is perfect for engaged couples, newlyweds, or even long-time spouses wondering if it's time to rethink how they handle money.Topics covered:Why “yours vs. mine” doesn't work in a marriage built on unityThe connection between separate finances and divorce riskHow financial transparency leads to deeper trustReal-life examples of couples who turned their marriage around by combining financesPractical tips for merging accounts and setting shared financial goalsWhether you're a saver, spender, or somewhere in between, this conversation will help you align your financial habits with your relationship goals.Articles Referenced https://www.ramseysolutions.com/relationships/married-couples-how-to-combine-bank-accountshttps://www.ramseysolutions.com/company/newsroom/releases/money-ruining-marriages-in-americahttps://middleclassdadmoney.com/should-couples-share-bank-accounts/https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3230928/https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/divorce/divorce-statistics/https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/financial-disagreements-strong-predictor-divorce-233000764.htmlhttps://www.thejimenezlawfirm.com/what-percent-of-marriages-end-in-divorce-because-of-money/If you found this episode helpful, consider subscribing for more content on relationships, money, and building a strong future together.**Support the Stream By Shopping at Our Store** Buy Your Financial Mirror Gear: https://www.thefinancialmirror.org/shop YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thefinancialmirrorRumble: https://rumble.com/TheFinancialMirrorFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/thefinancialmirr0rX: https://twitter.com/financialmirr0rInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thefinancialmirror/Podcast: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/thefinancialmirrorIf you are in need of a Financial Coach, don't waste another day of being in debt, not planning for retirement, or simply wondering where your money went each month. Today is the day to take control of your finances and I can help, no issue is too big or too small. Contact me at https://www.thefinancialmirror.org/#MarriageAdvice #MoneyAndMarriage #RelationshipGoals #CouplesFinance #DivorcePrevention #SharedFinances #PersonalFinance #FinancialFreedom #MarriageTips #FinanceForCouples #BudgetTogether #FinancialWellness #MarriageSuccess #MoneyTalks #MarriageGoals #CouplesTherapy #RelationshipTips #MoneyMatters #FinancialPlanning #MoneyFights #MarriageHelp #MarriedLife #MarriageCommunication #JointBankAccount #FinanceTips
Send us a textJoin us this week as we welcome Dr. Susannah Unsworth, a women's health expert and menopause specialist, to shed light on the ins and outs of HRT. Whether you're currently using hormone replacement therapy, considering it, or are searching for alternatives after breast cancer, this episode offers valuable insights for you. We dive into various topics including the benefits and safety of HRT, managing menopausal symptoms, personalized treatment options, and the role of lifestyle in navigating menopause. Plus, we discuss whether testosterone is right for you and why some women may struggle with progesterone. Dr. Unsworth provides essential guidance for anyone thinking about HRT. As always, thanks for tuning in, and see you next time! I think you find this conversation reassuring, empowering and educational..Topics we cover . . .Understanding menopause and HRTNavigating breast cancer and HRTCommon menopausal symptoms Vaginal healthy and urinary issuesPersonalising HRT treatmentSafety of HRT - can you use it beyond 5 years?Understanding HRT and breast cancer riskHow long should you take HRT?Alternatives to HRT and ageing well without hormonesThe importance of lifestyle in menopauseExploring testosterone - do you need it?Why some women don't tolerate progesteroneNavigating HRT prescriptions and the role of body identical HRTKey advice for women considering HRT For more information about Dr. Unsworth, visit her at https://cambridgewomenshealth.co.uk/https://cambridgewomenshealth.co.uk/contacthttps://cambridgewomenshealth.co.uk/aboutAmanda Ryder Registered Nutritional Therapist ~ Author of Feel good for Menopause @amandarydernutritionhello@amandaryder.co.ukwww.amandaryder.co.uk
Today I'm talking all things wholesale and retail with Tori Paide and Marla Peoples, acupuncturists and founders of the clean skincare line, TOMA Skincare.Tori and Marla are business partners who both left corporate careers to become acupuncturists. They met in acupuncture school and after going their separate ways after graduation, eventually decided to work together to build multiple practice locations.Today they run The Stillpoint, a wildly successful clinic in Maryland with a huge retail income offering cosmetic acupuncture, microneedling, massage and more.They also teach excellent microneedling classes and facial gua sha online – which is how I discovered them years ago.In this episode, we talk about:How to choose products that sell and also align with the ethos of your business as well as your passionsWhere to buy products at wholesale prices (Faire.com)How to dip your toe in the water with retail, with minimal riskHow to pay your rent from retail income aloneWhat kinds of products sell well at Marla's practiceBrands Tori and Marla recommendAnd much moreSHOW NOTES:Faire.com – Wholesale retail with low minimumsTOMA Skincare Products Wholesale Website for PractitionersTOMA Microneedling Classes Online and In-PersonTOMA on Instagram @tomaskintherapiesSupport the showCurious about Acupuncture Marketing School, the online course for marketing beginners? Join me inside! Click here to learn more.
Medication-related-harm (MRH) is especially prevalent in older adults due to changing physiology as the body ages, increased frailty, and the incidence of polypharmacy in this patient group. Giovanni Furlan of Pfizer discusses what makes this patient group so vulnerable to adverse drug reactions, how poor representation and using age alone to define older adults exacerbates this problem, and suggests ways forward in monitoring drug safety in older patients. Tune in to find out:What makes older adults especially at risk of experiencing adverse drug reactions and medication errorsWhy frailty is far more useful than age in predicting adverse drug reaction riskHow pharmacovigilance in older patients may be improved through pharmaceutical practice and better representation in clinical trials.Want to know more?This interview all started with Giovanni's Uppsala Reports article on how age is insufficient a measure of adverse event risk. Read it here.For a summary of the key points discussed in this interview, read Giovanni's paper on the status of drug safety in geriatric patients.If our discussion of frailty piqued your interest, read this paper on the biology of frailty and how this impacts clinical pharmacology, this multi-centre cohort study that shows frailty is significantly correlated with MRH, and this commentary advocating for consideration of MRH as a geriatric syndrome, which needs to be managed as such. As Giovanni mentioned in the interview, Harlan Krumholz was the first to describe post-hospital syndrome. Learn more about this syndrome by reading his paper.For more on prescribing cascades, their prevention, detection, and reversal, read this paper by Brath and colleagues.Join the conversation on social mediaFollow us on X, LinkedIn, or Facebook and share your thoughts about the show with the hashtag #DrugSafetyMatters.Got a story to share?We're always looking for new content and interesting people to interview. If you have a great idea for a show, get in touch!About UMCRead more about Uppsala Monitoring Centre and how we work to advance medicines safety.
Foods & Habits to Reduce Breast Cancer RiskLet's dive into a crucial topic—breast cancer prevention! Ever thought about how your diet, exercise habits, and even stress levels affect your risk?There's so much we can do to reduce our risk, and it all starts with a healthy lifestyle.Listen in to discover actionable steps to take control of your health!In this episode, you will learn:Benefits of a plant-based diet rich in whole foods and healthy fats for cancer preventionHow reducing fried foods, processed meats, added sugars, and alcohol can lower cancer riskPractical tips for making informed dietary choices and reading food labelsConnection between sugar intake, insulin resistance, and breast cancer riskAlcohol consumption guidelines to reduce breast cancer riskCancer-fighting foods: leafy greens, cruciferous vegetables, berries, fatty fish, and fermented foodsThe role of allium vegetables and cruciferous vegetables in cancer preventionImportance of managing obesity, diet, smoking, and exercise for reducing breast cancer riskHow to reduce exposure to harmful toxins in personal care products and cleaning suppliesStress management techniques: mindfulness, breathwork, and spending time in natureTake charge of your health today by adopting these strategies and reducing your breast cancer risk! **************************************** Have you heard about this? An easy hack to help regulate glucose.It incredibly effective in helping to retain normal blood sugar levels. Glucose Regulation Complex promotes efficient glucose metabolism, which is crucial for our overall health. By integrating this supplement into my routine, along with a healthy plant-forward diet and regular exercise, I've noticed a significant improvement in my glucose metabolism and stability in my blood glucose levels.One of the key ingredients in the Glucose Regulation Complex is alpha-lipoic acid, a powerful antioxidant that provides additional health benefits.*These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.GRAB IT HERE!...or copy and paste the link below into your browser: https://us.shaklee.com/site/samanthaharris/Nutrition/Targeted-Solutions/Blood-Sugar/Glucose-Regulation-Complex-Kosher-/p/20749?categoryCode=14013****************************************MORE FUN FROM SAMANTHA:Get my favorite, clean supplements, protein powders, and EWG-Verified clinically proven anti-aging skincare HERE or visit: https://us.shaklee.com/site/samanthaharrisAnd my vetted #1 best toxin-free makeup
Why we need distinct risk buckets: balancing our natural loss aversion with the allure of opportunities that offer the potential for massive upside.Topics covered include:What is modern portfolio theory, and what are some of its flawsWhy so many people have gotten wealthy by being undiversifiedHow to balance personal risk, market risk, and aspirational riskHow prospect theory explains our attraction to positively skewed opportunitiesWhy most people won't get wealthy unless they take some aspirational riskSponsorsNetSuite Delete Me – Use code David20 to get 20% offInsiders Guide Email NewsletterGet our free Investors' Checklist when you sign up for the free Money for the Rest of Us email newsletterOur Premium ProductsAsset CampMoney for the Rest of Us PlusShow NotesPortfolio Selection by Harry Markowitz—The Journal of Finance, Vol. 7, No. 1. (Mar., 1952), pp. 77-91Safety First and the Holding of Assets by A. D. Roy—Econometrica, Vol. 20, No. 3 (Jul., 1952), pp. 431-449The Misbehavior of Markets: A Fractal View of Financial Turbulence by Benoit Mandelbrot and Richard L. Hudson—Hachette Book GroupBeyond Markowitz: A Comprehensive Wealth Allocation Framework for Individual Investors by Ashvin B. Chhabra—The Journal of Wealth Managment, Vol. 7, No. 4, pp 8-34, Spring 2005The Wealth of Households: 2021: Current Population Reports by Briana Sullivan, Donald Hays, and Neil Bennett—Census.govAverage, Median, Top 1%, and all United States Net Worth Percentiles—DQYDJPROSPECT THEORY AND STOCK MARKET ANOMALIES by Nicholas C. Barberis, Lawrence J. Jin, and Baolian Wang—NBER WORKING PAPER SERIESRelated Episodes82: Unlocking the Power of Positive Skewness: Strategies for Investing, Business, and Creativity460: Should You Be Invested 100% in Stocks Before and During Retirement? A Recent Study Says Yes. 421: Beware of Survivorship Bias When InvestingInvesting Rule One: Avoid Ruin229: Stop Maximizing Your Returns Using Modern Portfolio TheorySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
This is one of the most important and practical episodes you will likely ever listen to! As more people speak out publicly, sharing their stories of abuse in the church, more and more churches, denominations, and pastors are growing litigious, further abusing victims in civil court. If you're thinking of going public with your story, LISTEN TO THIS EPISODE! Featuring Jenai Auman, author of the recently released book Othered. We'll Cover: Question to ask yourself before going public with your storyThings to consider before going publicTips to mitigate your riskHOW to prepare IF you get suedWhat to expect from lawyersAnd More* Disclaimer: This is NOT legal Advice! * Read this article, written by Jenai, that inspired Katherine to ask her to talk about this on the podcast. This is seriously one episode Katherine has REALLY wanted to do. Jenai wrote a companion article with examples of corroboration here. Jenai Auman is a Filipina American writer, artist, and author of Othered. She draws from her experience and education to write on healing, hope, and holistic spiritual formation practices.Looking for a trauma-trained mental health professional to work with? www.traumaresolutionandrecovery.com/meet-our-practitionersSign up for Tears of Eden's newsletter to receive updates on the release of Katherine Spearing's upcoming book: www.tearsofeden.org/aboutUncertain is a podcast of Tears of Eden, a community and resource for those in the aftermath of Spiritual Abuse. If you're enjoying this podcast, please take a moment to like, subscribe, or leave a review on your favorite podcasting listening apparatus. You can support the podcast by going to TearsofEden.org/supportTo get in touch with us please email tearsofeden.org@gmail.comFollow on Instagram @uncertainpodcastTranscript is Unedited for Typos and Misspellings[00:00:00] I'm Katherine Spearing and this is Uncertain.Starting in April of this year, I began partnering with Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery, working as a practitioner for this organization. This organization's CEO is Dr. Laura Anderson. You may be familiar with her. She's been on the pod a couple of different times. She's also the author of the book, When Religion Hurts You.She's awesome. She's the boss. I work with her and a bunch of other really great practitioners over there. If you are looking for mental health professional, a trained, highly qualified, highly experienced mental health professional that can help you navigate religious trauma, spiritual abuse, and all of the sub categories that fall beneath that.I encourage you to check out Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery. I am currently accepting a few new clients, and there are several other practitioners that are also accepting clients. I know that's a big thing that comes up a lot in the religious trauma spiritual abuse [00:01:00] world is folks just really struggling to find a mental health professional that understands religious trauma and spiritual abuse and the nuances and complexities of the subculture of evangelicalism and church culture.So if that is something that you are looking for, I encourage you to check them out. The link will be in the show notes. Also in April of this year, I signed a book deal with Lake Dry Books. My book, Surprise Surprise is about spiritual abuse. It will be coming out in sometime in 2025. Date is yet to be determined, so I encourage you to sign up for Tears of Eden's mailing list for updates on the release of that book. The need that this book is going to fill in the world of religious trauma and spiritual abuse recovery, that is something that I see lacking in theIt's the need of making the connection between the theology of evangelicalism that actually leads [00:02:00] to the abuse happening. I'm not seeing that a lot in the literature today. Our guest a couple of weeks ago, Krista Brown, she made that connection in her memoir, Baptist Land. But outside of that, it's not really a common thing that folks are addressing. So I felt like it was a pretty important subject to navigate in my book. It's going to be mostly. Following my journey of recovery, but it's not a memoir and it is also going to be pulling some stuff from the work with Tears of Eden. There are direct quotes from podcasts that you may have listened to So sign up for the mailing list so that you can get updates about that. Today's guest is my friend and colleague Janai Allman, and I am so excited about this episode. This is an episode that I have been wanting to do for a couple years. And a few weeks before Janai had, and I had this episode scheduled to record, she sent out a Substacks article about the very subject [00:03:00] that we're going to be talking about today.We are going to talk about her book that just came out, Othered, and we are going to talk about the book a little bit as well, But Janai graciously agreed to have this conversation with me because we both learned a lot of things about telling our stories publicly and how to stay safe and also make sure we get to say our side of the story and those two things are super important on the other side of abuse.So very excited about this episode. I hope this is one that people will re listen to over and over and over again, and I am so excited to be able to include this as a resource for Tears of Eden and for folks who encounter Tears of Eden. Janai Almon is a Filipina American writer and artist who draws from her years in church leadership as well as her trauma informed training to write on healing, hope, and the way forward.She is passionate about providing language to readers so they can find a faith inspiring that freeze. She received her bachelor's degree in behavioral health science, and is currently pursuing a [00:04:00] master's in spiritual formation at Northeastern Seminary. Janiyah lives in Houston, Texas with her husband, Tyler, and their sons, Quinn and Graham.Here is my interview with Janiyah Allman Katherine: Hello, Janai. Jenai: Hi. How are you? I'm really good. I'm so glad we're doing this. Katherine: Yes, me too. I'm very excited about this episode and the subject that we are going to talk about today because it is one, as you and I have, talked about prior to the episode is something that is a big discussion within the survivor community for folks who are wanting to go public with their stories and discussing how to protect ourselves from the potential for a civil lawsuit.It is not an uncommon thing and it's becoming more common like I'm, I'm seeing it happen a lot. You just went through experience of writing a book before we [00:05:00] jumped on, you talked about going through a legal review when you were writing your book. So everything that we're sharing today is going to just be to help people have some awareness about this experience of going public with your story and protecting yourself because you want to, you want to protect yourself. As we jump in, I definitely want to highlight your book . So give folks a just rundown of what your book is and why you wanted to write this book. Jenai: Yeah, I, so my book is a faith oriented book, so I know that some people who might listen to Uncertain, they might be in varying degrees of faith, or totally deconverted altogether, I make space for the deconverted, and but also, I wrote this space reorienting, or I wrote the book reorienting, like, how I posture myself to Like the stories in the Bible and I weave in personal narrative.So this is what I experienced. How does that, how is that at all in accord with scripture? How, and it isn't [00:06:00] a lot of what I experienced while working on staff at a church, one of those churches that are often in those podcasts where they talk about the main guy who started the affiliation yelling at people.Like, I think people, I was a part of a very high control, very toxic masculinity church planting network. And I was ostracized and kicked out essentially othered in from my church because I wouldn't, I wouldn't shut up and I wouldn't, I wouldn't stop advocating for myself. And so I wrote othered.To tell my story and to essentially provide a road map to this is why I still am a Christian. I kind of detangled my experience of that space from the harm I experienced. And I have found a renewed relationship in God. However, it doesn't land per like I'm not in a church today. I'm not and some people, they are so mad that I'm not in a church today.Which, that's like a whole other thing. And then other people are going to be mad that Katherine: you still identify as a [00:07:00] Christian. Yeah. Jenai: Yeah. Like I'm not in a church. I still identify as a Christian. I'm in seminary. So that makes it like even kookier for people. And, and so I sit in a weird place where even as I tell my story, sometimes I still feel very othered because I haven't landed where other people wanted me to land.But that's kind of the whole point. Like I want people to feel free to land wherever, even my, like, I don't mention my husband very often, but even my husband has landed somewhere different in faith. And that's like much more toward deconversion. And so I hold space for a lot of different people. So anyway, I wrote other, I share, it's not a memoir.So it doesn't tell even people get mad whenever I say, I don't say everything that happened in the book, and I think we're going to talk about all of that and maybe why I didn't do that. A lot of that is just to protect myself. I think a lot of people want that, though, and they don't understand the risk that goes into telling everything like in a memoir style.I just use [00:08:00] pieces of the story. Like, my story is not up for debate. But I just used these instances, instances and moments to say, here's where something in me fractured and I had to find my way back to myself again. So yeah, I'm really glad to share. Katherine: Absolutely. And I really appreciate you sort of setting things up and just kind of letting folks know like this is where I have landed.Yeah, I had space for other people for where they have landed. I think that's really helpful because I think a lot of folks from evangelicalism will, like, come on and talk about you know, what they believe. And there is this, like, very subtle agenda of, like, I want you to believe the same thing as me which comes straight out of, These toxic evangelical cultures of like, we can't interact with you unless you believe the same thing.And so I really appreciate that. You've set it up that way and that you have written the book that way pertaining to the subject that we're going to [00:09:00] discuss today. What did you, what made you feel like it was important to write this story? in a public way and put it in a book and put it on all of the other public writing that you have written. You may already know this, but the uncertain podcast is the affiliate podcast of tears at Eden, a nonprofit that serves as a community and resource for survivors of spiritual abuse. This podcast and the work of tears are supported by donations from generous listeners. Like you. If you're enjoying this podcast, please consider giving a donation by using the link in the show notes or visiting tears of eaton.org/support. You can also support the podcast by rating and leaving a review and sharing on social media. If you're not already following us, please follow us on Facebook at tears of Eden and Instagram at uncertain podcast. Thanks so much for listening.And now back to the show. Katherine: what made you feel like it was important to write this story? in a public way and put it in a book and put [00:10:00] it on all of the other public writing that you have written.Jenai: Yeah. Well, it was, I can imagine cause there was a lot of back and forth between me and the leadership of the church of like, what was wrong, what wasn't wrong. And, and I was watching them and this is probably something you, you resonate with also, but like watching them make it make sense in their heads, like take this really.dumb argument that they've made and they've kind of loaded it with a lot of Christian speak to somehow justify like whatever conclusion that they came to. So in short, I was terminated from my position. They never used the word terminated though. They always used transition out. That was kind of a part of the The Christian speak, you know, yes, it made it sound like more polite to them as if what they weren't what they were doing to me was not impolite or like rude or loving.They were like, Oh, we're just transitioning her out. We're just like jet [00:11:00] gently pushing her out and telling her to shut the hell up. I'm sorry. I don't know if this is a you're allowed to pass. Katherine: Yes. Jenai: And so Yeah, I was like, you use these grace laced words and so I kind of started fighting back with no, you're not supposed to do this isn't so in many ways the book and the book's not an argument.It's not formatted as an argument. It is essentially kind of how I kept fighting back. And I don't even say this in the book. It's it was my resistance and how my resistance played out over the course of time Using the very scriptures that they were trying to use against me and I was saying no, no, no, no, no Like Katherine: yeah, Jenai: you know I think a big a big banner scripture and it's not in the book at all Ezekiel 34 like you are feeding on the sheep I am a sheep that was in your care and the ways in which I was treated wasn't okay And you're supposed to hear my voice And you didn't just not hear me.You like silenced me. And [00:12:00] so writing the book was pivotal for me because I think many other people are having to deal with that too. That doublespeak, duplicitousness. And they don't know how to combat it. And for whatever reason, maybe it's my stubborn, Filipina nature or maybe it's a little bit of like Texas stubborn in me as well, but I was like you You will not overpower me.You have done everything to like push me out, but I I will Like there was something stubborn in me that was like, I will dig down. Cause I know something in this is not right. And I'm going to keep speaking up. So yeah, I thought it was super pivotal to give people language. And I think some of that says that in my bio, like I want to provide people with language.I don't know what it is. I don't want to tell people what to do, but I want to give them language to say, this is what my resistance looks like, and Katherine: I Jenai: hope and healing, I think healing and resistance are both and and I think this is what you can envision for yourself also. Katherine: Right. I love that healing and resistance are both [00:13:00] and and for whatever reason that someone chooses to go public with their story.Part of that reason could just could be the healing reason like that. That is that feels important to me as a part of my healing. I need this story to be public. It could be just to teach people as you, as you chose to do just to sort of show people. Here are. other ways to interpret these things that these power hoarders are just, you know, funneling at you and there's so many of them and they're so powerful and they're so convincing and they're so nice when they say it, it's really hard to, to fight back even just in our own minds.So there's so many reasons why someone feels that it's important. to go public with their story. And what we're going to talk about today, folks, is how to protect yourself if you decide to go [00:14:00] public with your story. Disclaimer at the very beginning. Neither Janai nor I are legal counsel, we are not lawyers, we have life experience that we are going to share, we are going to give recommendations, but we encourage everyone to do your own research, look into this yourself, know what the risks are because there are risks.When you put your story of being abused in public and make the best wise decision for you and your health and where you are in your story. So with that disclaimer, we're going to kind of talk about two different parts in this episode. One, we're just going to talk about ways that you can safely tell your story that might mitigate your opportunities or the potential risk of being sued by someone.Yeah. That said. Someone can file a civil lawsuit for anything. They don't have to have corroborating evidence or anything. [00:15:00] They can make up a total lie to file a civil lawsuit. All they need is Money, really, that's really the only thing that they need. And so we're never going to be able to completely eliminate the risk for being sued, but there are some things that we have learned on our journeys that can help us navigate and protect ourselves in the event that that actually happens.So that's going to be the part two of this episode. jumping right in. If you have some things that you have learned in your process about ways to phrase things, how to phrase things, things that you learned while writing your book of, okay, I can't say that, but I can say this, would love to hear just a rundown of some stuff that you have learned in your process of telling your story publicly.Jenai: Yeah, yeah. Well, and I'll say sometimes I share parts of my story on Instagram and no [00:16:00] one's really policing what I say on Instagram. But there was much more kind of like being cautious and careful in a publication, like a book. And so just before I wrote. Or finished the manuscript of Othered. I think it was Prince Harry's memoir.Yeah, his memoir came out. And I, and I was like, I want to read that. And I just read it before even finishing the manuscript. Just because I wanted to see, how does he tell this? And not have the power of the throne come down at him. And if anyone, I began paying attention, I mean the story is wild, but also began paying attention to how he told it, or how the ghost writer was telling it for him.And I don't know if anyone else has read it, but there's kind of like, sometimes you read like, him saying, did this happen? He's like self doubting. Yes. In, in the book. Did you pick up on that also? Huh. Katherine: Yeah. Jenai: Like he was like, I, am I remembering this correctly? Almost as [00:17:00] if like, you can't come after me.I'm telling you that it's just my memory. It's just Katherine: memory. Jenai: So I learned that it is different to write something as 100 percent fact, even though there are things in my book that were 100 percent fact. This is what happened, but because I didn't have evidence or I didn't have like a screenshot or a recording of the meeting to say this is 100 percent fact, I had to say.And this is such, it's weaker. It makes for weaker writing, but it protects you more. I had to say, I remember this person saying, Katherine: yeah. Jenai: Whereas before I had it written in dialogue, like so and so said this to me, and I responded in this way, and they said, we need this corroborated, or we need evidence, or you need to re write it and say, I remember.this happening. I remember this happening. And I thought, man, like, it kind of sucks a little bit. It sucks the, like the, the wind from your sails. But I remember that being a [00:18:00] pivotal a pivotal point in like, Oh, then there were some things I do. And I, I remember, I don't know if anyone's in the middle of anything.And I'm in a one party state, meaning as long as one party in the conversation consents to a recording. You can record the conversation. And so long as I was a party, I, I, I was like, I give myself consent to record this conversation, something in my gut before I even left my position, something in my gut said, Start recording these conversations.And so I did. You're going to have to look up your own local laws to see if you're a one party or a two party state. Sometimes you need consent from everyone in the meeting before you can record. I know California is like that and maybe others. Yeah. And so I remember hitting record. And feeling a little bit bad about that.I'm like, this is, this is, this seems weird and creepy on my part at the time, but there was something in my gut [00:19:00] that was telling me, record this conversation. And I remember texting a fellow coworker who was also experiencing the same like mess that I was. And I texted her and I said, is it wrong of me to record this conversation?And she goes, Oh my gosh, yes. And I thought it was wrong. Yes. She, even she like, even in who, And even she couldn't, cause it feels that creepy. Yeah. Like even the people who are in it with you might think, oh, this isn't gracious of you. But I didn't listen to her and I thought I was going to keep recording.And now, like if I talk to her now. And I told her, Hey, remember when you told me I should stop recording? I didn't, she would probably say, I'm so glad you didn't listen to me. Right. I'm so glad you just kept doing it. And so I, I did have evidence. I did have evidence. I had screenshots. Instagram messages, or not Instagram, my goodness.IPhone, iMessage. Katherine: Yeah. Jenai: Like they have like these settings where it says, you know, delete my messages after a month, delete 'em after a year or whatever. I [00:20:00] turn that feature off, so I have a ton of like, storage on my phone from all my stored messages, but that's really so that I have all the evidence.And so I took screenshots. Yeah. And I put all of that in a folder to send off. For those that don't know, when you read a, when you write a book, they usually do what's called a permissions read. Meaning if you added stories of other people your editor will go through and read to see who do you need permission from.And they'll give you like a form to send to that friend who says, I give permission for this story to be in the book. And for me, I thought, well, I don't know how this is going to work. I'm not going to get permission from anyone to tell the story. Katherine: Yeah, Jenai: and they emailed me back and they were like, congratulations, you don't need to get permission.However, we do need to do a corroboration read or a legal read of the book, and this is what our lawyer has flagged as like comments in the document for like, this is where you need [00:21:00] corroboration or change the word or evidence and Yeah, so that's kind of like an overview of the process. Katherine: And corroboration is another person saying, yes, that.Yes, Jenai: yes, that happened. Even, even though you don't have evidence, if someone else can say, yes, this happened, I was there, I witnessed it. I know that that is exactly how that it played out. They are kind of like your witness. It is not evidence. It's your witness. Katherine: Yeah, absolutely. And that is. For them and for you in the event that you do get sued.We already have this ready, we have to go, we have someone backing this up, we have someone that has verified that this is true for that again doesn't necessarily prevent the lawsuit from happening, but it is stuff that can just protect you in the event. Some other things that are helpful that you are.Probably alluding to saying things like allegedly, or it is my opinion [00:22:00] appeared to me that X, Y said this, or it seemed as if, and that feels so weird saying that when it's like your story and it happened to you, but it's also just kind of acknowledging. A human limitation. So just kind of putting it in that category.And, and memory memory does change over time. It doesn't mean that it wasn't 100 percent true, but it we're just we're just kind of acknowledging human beings have limitations and I am a human being, and it's and it's protection. It's okay to protect yourself. You are not being dishonest, but it is, it does feel so weird, especially when we come out of these environments where we have been silenced and our story and our narrative gets taken by other people and twisted and reframed.We just want to say it like this happened and this person was so horrible, awful, blah, blah, blah, blah. And there are [00:23:00] spaces to do that. And. Maybe write the first draft with like every expletive you ever wanted to use, get it all out and then go back. and adjust it for public consumption. Maybe wait a few days.And so yes, those emotions need to be felt. Those emotions need to be gotten out and you also want to protect yourself. So both of those things can happen. And the importance of just the reality that the story is out there and there may be some things that just feel a little weird to say them a certain way, but it has a story out there.How do you navigate that of like, this wasn't the most ideal way to write this but it was the safest way to write this. How do you navigate that experience? Jenai: Yeah. I remember In, I think it's in the first chapter of the book, I am certain it's in the first chapter of the book, because I start the book with a story [00:24:00] of my first day of work that started with my executive director yelling Or, you know, whatever your definition of, yeah, I think it was yelling I called it not yelling, but he was raising his voice because, you know, there is no, I can't track the decibel level of what he's saying, and like, I don't want that to be a whole argument, but even that, I kind of cushioned and said, He wasn't yelling, but he was raising his voice to the degree that everyone in the building could hear him.You know what I mean? Katherine: Yeah, and so people are going to be like, he was yelling. Jenai: Yeah, he was yelling. And so it's subversive little things like that. And so. I, I kind of cushioned where I could, but then later in the chapter when I, my first chapter is kind of about giving people terms, because people use spiritual abuse in different ways, or church hurt in different ways, and so I kind of tracked with like, this is how I'm using them for the book.So I tell that [00:25:00] story, and then I share kind of my definition of these terms, and because I put some cushion in the story later when I talk about that experience, when I name what happened in that experience, I say, this was spiritually abusive. And I just say it. I felt like I had the confidence to say it there, because I had the allegedly in the cushion.I didn't, I didn't have to write this was a, I alleged that this was spiritual abuse. I could just say it with punch and power later in the chapter. And so there are kind of subversive ways like that, that you as a writer, or even if you tell your story because I know some people might be Not everyone's writing, some people are podcasters, some people are sharing their stories in different ways and so there are there are subversive ways to tell the truth, such that you are clever, and you can protect yourself as well.There's something, some verse in Matthew that's like, you know, be as wise as a serpent. But be as gentle as a dove [00:26:00] and I think I do that in the book like I had to navigate this I wanted the book to be compassionate, but I also wanted to be clever and I wanted to show like I could still tell my story and so yeah, there's places you can put cushion when you need to.And then if you're, if you're clever with your writing, the imagery and or the, you know, the imagination of the reader will fill in the gaps. Thanks. Yeah, Katherine: but then you are still protected. Jenai: Yeah. Katherine: Another, another thing that feels weird is when we're writing about someone who's not a public figure changing names, changing physical identifiers, that also feels super weird.Cause we're like, we just want them to know that it was this person. But the reality is that most people don't know that person. And so thinking of it as a wider. public facing thing rather than the 5, 10, 20, 100, or a thousand people within that space who would know who that is. And that vindication that we [00:27:00] would get from making it obvious who the person is versus protecting ourselves and, and just changing their name, changing physical identifiers.That's different if it is a public figure. When it's a public figure, you can phrase it. a way to phrase it is, or a way to, to angle it or approach it is to write it as if it is for the public good. Like, Hey, a lot of people are asking me about this person. And so I'm sharing this story so that the public will know that this happened, or it isn't, it is important to me that people know that this, you know, public figure.You know, Robbie Zacharias is a predator, you know, like, like stuff like that, where you are, you are saying you're doing it for the public good. And in essence, you are. So that is another way where they, again, they can still see you for [00:28:00] defamation and libel, all of the things. But when you're approaching it as I'm doing this for the, like, Oh, I'm just doing this for the public.And that's what, that's what journalists do. Like they, that's why they write, like, you know, Or that's the ethics that they are supposed to follow of this is important information. This is truth that the public needs to be aware of. And so that's another angle to approach it as and even a way to kind of approach the story as a, as a whole, as you, you did of It's important that people know there's a different way to interpret these verses and making sure that the public knows that there are other ways to say this.And that's another angle. And Jenai: that's why I actually don't use names or even fake names at all in my book. And I think that's a reason why I think people approach it. They're like, this is Jani's story. And I was like, this is really the story of my resistance. It's not the [00:29:00] story of like everything that happened.And so I think that might, like, you know, I think people want to hear like the nitty gritty and I. I would have had to use so much more mental and emotional labor if I was telling stories of how they allegedly kept using my social security number for their church credit card 18 months after I was fired.You know, like, I, I would have to, like, it would take so long. So much more mental labor for me to talk about, like how financial fraud came about or how, how all these other things happened and changing names. And so that's why I was like, I can't write a memoir. I'm not a memoirist. Katherine: Mm-Hmm, . Jenai: But I can tell my story of my resistance and in doing it, framing it that way, I could tell pieces of my story and then not use names.And so I say things like executive director. Yeah, or a senior pastor or lead pastor. And so the people who [00:30:00] are there who read the book will know exactly who I'm talking about. And another way that I've protected myself, and I don't know if a lot of people know this, is that I actually helped plant the church.And what I mean, what I say, what I mean when I say that is, In Texas, when you file for a non profit or corporate, a non profit corporation status with our state, you have to have three signing directors to kind of legalize this organization with, you know, the Austin. the state capitol. And I was one of the signers.So there, it was me and two other guys as signing directors that that stuff is open access. So if you go and Google that stuff, you find my name connected to that church. One way that I've protected myself is I don't write under my full name, Jani Amen. That's my first and my middle name. And When you, I mean, they could still probably find, if someone digs enough, [00:31:00] they can find it.But I can say I put, like, measures in place to not be connected. I don't name the church, that's another thing. I don't talk about even the neighborhood that it was in in the book. So people can't geographically locate it. So, in many ways, I have hemmed myself in from further harm that they could do, and I've just, I've provided cushion in other ways, not just in the book, but in how I approach telling my story, and a pen name, that's not deceptive to readers, that's like, pen names Yeah, pen names are, yeah, it's like industry standard people I mean, that's happened, pen names have happened for a long time.And so I didn't, I'm still writing under my genuine names. I'm just writing under my first and my middle name. Which is what a lot of people do. So yeah, that was just another way I protected myself. Katherine: Yeah. And then another [00:32:00] small detail that could play a role is the names of states lawsuits are, are usually organized by a state and it's called jurisdiction. So if it's if it's possible to remove even state identifiers and just use the area of the country or change the state or whatever, then that just that ties things up. Legally within the context of of a lawsuit and can make it like if it's outside of the, the person who did the wrong, allegedly did the wrong outside of their state and they have to sue across state lines or, or something like that.And, and there's no, indication that it actually happened within the state, within the writing then that can just make it a little bit trickier to file a lawsuit and to, to get it [00:33:00] through. And so it just makes it a little bit more challenging. So those are just some other things to consider as you're, as you're writing.I know when I write about my family, I always say the South. I never say the state. I always say the South. I've started doing very recently. And even if people ask me like in person where I grew up, I just say the South and they'll be like, where? And I was like, I just say the South. Just cause I don't want that connection to a specific state for those jurisdiction reasons.Another fun fact tidbit that is not legal advice. Interested in listening to more than 40 archived Uncertain Podcast episodes? All you have to do is sign up to become a monthly supporter of 5 or more. Becoming a monthly supporter will give you access to popular episodes such as Confessions of a Christian Parent and When Bad People Do Good Things.You'll also get access to this episode without any interruptions from yours truly. Become a monthly supporter today by going to tiersofedian. org slash [00:34:00] support.Katherine: All right. Anything more we want to say about that before we jump into the experience of. working with lawyers and what what might happen on the other side of a lawsuit. Jenai: No, I, I think that kind of tidies up the I will say I have a very unique name.Not every, if you're like a Rachel Smith, You know, you probably have, if someone Googles you they're gonna find so many other Rachel Smiths. And so with the pen name thing, I don't want anyone to freak out or feel like they have to change their name, especially if your name means a lot to you. So please, I just want to be like really sensitive to that.As a Jani Amon, I, you know, or just a Jani in general, they're going to find me. I'm going to be on page one of the Google there, there are more of us than I realize, but the, there aren't as many who are public on the internet. And so, yeah, I would say that's the only thing I can say a Houston church and everyone's like Katherine: Yeah. We'll find you. People find you. And I mean, that is something that you can do. It's not, you know, [00:35:00] It's a it's an option for for protection using using the the pen name.And I think, as you said, if it's. very intentional that we're not trying to like go after this person and take them down. It, it helps. Those are just little things that can help. As we jump into talking about the bum, bum, bum, bum, what if you do get sued? Let's talk about some ways that We can protect ourselves in the event that that happens.It is not uncommon and just want to let folks know from where I sit in the work that I do, I am seeing, if you're talking about the spiritual abuse space and going public about abuse that pastors have done or denominations or whatever, I am watching pastors and denominations and organizations become more litigious.They are, they are fighting back. By filing civil suits. [00:36:00] Now it is my opinion. We need to also be fighting back and filing civil suits. But when you've been abused, a lot of times you don't want to do that. And that is it's over for you. You are moving on and health and you do not want to interact with that person anymore.But the, the increase of lawsuits and civil suits from. Pastors suing folks who have accused them of abuse that is growing and I project is probably going to continue to grow as they fight back and they lose power. So it is not. a unlikely event if you start going public and start talking about specific people especially and specific denominations especially.Very sad, just going to acknowledge that right here that that even needs to be a reality but as you absolutely quoted at the beginning Be Wise is Wise as serpents and gentle as doves and this is just a way to be [00:37:00] real wise when we start going public with our stories. Now, one thing to just be aware of, of I don't know that a lot of people know this but you can get Insurance for yourself for things like liable defamation, slander.And if you, I recommend talking to a local broker in your city and just say, Hey, this is what I'm doing. I have a podcast or I put a lot of stuff on my website or I'm writing a book and I need coverage. What are your recommendations? The brokerage will do, broker will do the research for you and likely present you with some options of things that you can purchase for your own protection.When you do that, when you have insurance and if these, you know, alleged abusers know that you have insurance, it does increase the likelihood that you're going to get sued. And the reason why is because if you get [00:38:00] sued and you have no money there, you file bankruptcy and they get nothing. If you, if they see you and have insurance, then they are increasing the likelihood that they are going to get money because insurances can just decide.This is, it's more expensive to defend this case than to settle this case and they can make that decision that they're going to settle instead of defend. That's just a nuance of how the system works. It does not mean that you are admitting fault. You never have to admit fault. But if an insurance company is covering you, then they might make that choice on your behalf.They can do that. And lawyers know that and so if you have insurance, it does increase. slightly increase your chance of getting sued. However, the alternative is basically you don't have insurance and then you then not only are going through the horrendous [00:39:00] emotional stress of a lawsuit, you're also having to pay for it.So that is just something to consider. As you are going public with your story and something very simple that you can do to protect yourself. You can add it on to your renter's insurance. You can add it on to your mortgage. I think it's a, if it's something that you do regularly, like for you and I, or for myself forming an LLC, forming a nonprofit so that you have the insurance to cover that specific entity and you do all of the work under that entity.So then you are not on the hook should something happen because it's under that entity. Those are just real weird nuances and something that most people are never going to have to know or be aware of. But for this particular thing of going public about our story of abuse is something for folks to be aware of.Would you like to share about what someone might expect [00:40:00] when, if they have to interact with lawyers? Jenai: Yes. And that was hard. That was hard. I don't remember if we said this during the recording, but lawyers are not. Dental? Yes. They're not trauma informed.They don't really, their concern is, Like winning and not necessarily, I mean, that's kind of like what I feel like with pastors, pastors are so many pastors, not all pastors are concerned about like upping the numbers. And sometimes the spiritual abuse happens because they look at the metrics and not at the people.And in many ways, I kind of felt some of that with like, Katherine: Hey, Jenai: just want to make sure that they win, not necessarily that this person is cared for. That's someone else's job. I will say I do not have a lawyer. I had, I worked with the lawyer, the legal representation with my publisher, so when I, when they did that permissions read, that was [00:41:00] not a permissions read, and they transferred it over to a legal read the editor read through, but then the editor also had the lawyer read through.And the lawyer went through and commented on the document certain things. Sometimes I don't know if I was supposed to see these comments or if they were supposed to scrub them. And I, I, because in reading some of their comments, they're trying to think about how can this writer say this? So that really so that everyone is protected, but sometimes they write it as if the writer did something wrong here and it just lands on you kind of hard.And getting the email that said, you know, we need, we need you to provide corroboration. It felt a lot like, They don't believe me. Katherine: Yeah. You have to prove that this was true. Jenai: Yes. Katherine: Yeah. And Jenai: that I knew it was coming from other people I had spoken with and other writers and authors that I know of. I knew that this was coming, so it didn't [00:42:00] hit me too hard.Katherine: Mm-Hmm. . I Jenai: can imagine that it might if other, other people aren't experiencing that, and I think. Oh, I'm so grateful for my agent. So if someone, if you can work with an agent some people say find whatever agent that you can find. But really my encouragement is if you can land with an agent, not just somebody who will have you, but someone who will have your back.Katherine: Yeah, that Jenai: is pretty pivotal. And she was sensitive enough. She also, that was another thing, all my emails between me and my publisher go to my agent as well. My agent is a part of an agency who has a lawyer at the head. And so he kind of, he's not my agent, but he's connected. And so I, I feel very kept at that particular, like, and held.Katherine: Yeah at Jenai: that agency, but my agent was sensitive enough that she got the email and before I responded to the email Or before I even texted her she texted me I want to say five [00:43:00] minutes after the email hit my inbox and she said I want you to know This doesn't mean that they don't believe you. They're all everyone's just concerned about making sure The book is protected that you're protected.This doesn't mean that they don't believe you and I You I knew that it was just really nice to have someone else tell me that. And I know that depending on, I think self publishing is a totally valid journey especially after going through publishing. So not everyone has an agent, but even if you can get someone in your corner, who's a part of walking through the process with you, even if it's not an agent who can read this stuff with you and tell you the things that Even you yourself know, I know that this means that they don't believe me.Hearing it from another person really does help just take care of like your body, your nervous system. And so that, but it was a very hard thing to read. And then the comments from the lawyer herself were also really. really hard. I think [00:44:00] sometimes some people think it's the men and I'm like, no, not Katherine: really.No, no, no, no, no. It is not. It is not. And they, they, again, as you said, they want to win. And so they are thinking about this from a perspective of like, if we get into a lawsuit, how will we win? What are the things that we need in order to win? And so much of the civil lawsuit there are absolutely situations.I know someone who is suing someone for financial fraud right now and it is a genuine situation in which they should be suing that person, but this can also just be this very capitalistic way for power holders to just be bullies. There aren't a lot of like regulations about like, is this a legitimate reason to sue someone.And so. It's a game. A lot of it's a game. And the, the lawyers, a certain type of person ends up being a lawyer, and they are, they're, they're, they're about strategy and the game, and how do I win this game, and they are [00:45:00] not, thinking you are an abuse survivor who has been extremely traumatized and they're not thinking how is this going to land for you.They also tend to have very little other than just like very high level understanding of like rape is sexual abuse. They don't have a lot of understanding about the nuances of abuse and what exactly is abuse. And so. That when you've already gone through an experience of having to justify and defend yourself and, and convince yourself that this is real and this really happened and, and what you are experiencing and how you are navigating your trauma is real to then have this real life experience of people just like not believing you, even though that's not necessarily the case, but it feels like they don't believe you.It can be very re traumatizing, and so we're just, we're just sharing this to just like, just be aware. Make, make a wise choice of, of this with [00:46:00] awareness. And as Janai said, surround yourself with people, give yourself some good people who are going to be there to support you. Also, something to keep in mind, a civil suit is not a criminal suit.You are not a criminal. You do not commit a crime. It might feel like it, but you didn't do anything wrong. Again, people can sue for any reason whatsoever. They do not have to have any, any corroboration. All they have to do is be a bully and have a lot of money. Jenai: Yeah. I write in other actually, like if people, if people you are calling out someone for misuse of power, they will continue to misuse their power and abuse their power to silence you.And so they're going to be like, oops, my bad. They will keep doing it. They will keep coming after you. And I think really the only way to stop it from happening is you have to find your power back. And, and that can be through a number of things, [00:47:00] whether, like, people can corroborate your story, you've gathered evidence I will say for anyone gathering evidence or in the middle of that process, don't necessarily do everything under, like, if you get something to your work email and that work email is connected to the abusive situation, start forwarding everything to your personal email because they will close that email account eventually and you will lose evidence, that was in my case, I've also, there was a pastor in my story.It's not in the book at all, but who has been trying to meet with me or he has been meeting with me for coffee, trying to reconcile, and I feel safe enough to have these conversations with him and not feel talked down to, or not feel, you know, gaslit. I won't let that happen. But because he has extended an olive branch and has kind of admitted to some of the wrongdoing he's done in the corroboration process, I needed to corroborate that I was given, you know two severance options, and I didn't have that screenshot.It was in, [00:48:00] like, a slide. I have a Slack channel that I'm no longer a part of. It was in my old work email that I never forwarded to my personal email. And so I had to get corroboration for that. And I asked this pastor, I will say lawyer or the lawyer for the publisher, they said, if your husband can corroborate, he is allowed to corroborate for your story.Right. So that was super helpful. And I, but instead of in title, my husband did corroborate for some of the things, but for this severance option, I thought I'm going to ask the pastor, my friend to do this, my former friend to do this because he can use the one that gave me the severance options. And it was really like a, let me see the test of your character, whether you'll do this, and he didn't, he said, Katherine: oh, goodness, he Jenai: said, there's just so much more nuance.And I'm not saying whether or not there is nuance to the situation. And by the way, I reject his nuance. It was total crap. I was just saying, the [00:49:00] corroboration is. Did you or did you not give me two severance options? And he wanted to say, you know, he wanted to say, but this happened, like, and I was like, yeah.And I said, can you do this? Can you confirm this? And he said, no, I won't corroborate for you. And I was like, you dirty liar. I was like, fine. I, I, I wasn't upset. I was just like, okay. Katherine: You showed, you showed your colors. Jenai: Yeah, you are actually Like confirming that you are still in alignment with the character of the person that I knew before.And like my lack of trust with you is validated. Like I can no longer trust. I can't, like my, my gut is telling me the right things. I gave you an opportunity to mend some of that trust and you did not. So I still have it in the book that I was given two severance options because my husband was like, yes, you were given two severance options.And I remember that. And if it ever [00:50:00] goes to court and everyone gets deposed, that's what they're going to say, you know, like you, yeah, Katherine: you have to. Yeah. And exactly. I can cut this from the episode, but was one of the options, Like you have to sign an NDA and you get this? Jenai: No. Okay. There was no NDA.We can keep this in. I was given two severance options. Here's the thing, and this is how pivotal, I was the primary on the bank account. Like my, I could have done anything with the finding. I didn't. But that I, I had the passwords to everything. I was the primary check signer. I had a lot of things that I was responsible for.I had no power over because they, you know, kind of cuffed me in terms of like what did and didn't happen. And I was trying to follow the rules. But because I had the access and the responsibility to maintain everything, they couldn't just get rid of me super quick because they needed that access. And [00:51:00] so my severance options were two weeks notice and two months severance.Or I work for two months and I get another three months severance and I, this was 2020. This is when people are losing their jobs. And I thought I need, I actually asked, I said, can I have more severance? Like, this is, you are my brothers. Yes. You are, you are like, tying my hands behind my back.You have given me no voice and no choice, even though I have consistently told you that this man's harmful. Can I have more severance? They ignored that request. I actually met with somebody who, and I told him, I said, remember you were ignored this request. And he was like, did we? And I said, yes, I remember asking for six months of severance.Because they do whatever they can't have to in their mind to protect their male fragility that they've done something wrong my husband was there, but the severance thing was [00:52:00] really really hard The kicker is is they did eventually get rid of the senior pastor They gave him like nine ten months worth of severance His salary.I, his salary was six figures. My salary was in the fifties. Mm-Hmm. . And so I, I felt like I wasn't asking a lot. A lot. I wasn't asking for a lot. Katherine: Right, exactly. Jenai: They gave him my salary and then some through his severance, like later, and I thought. Man, like, I, whatever, this is obviously, like, here is another instance where you have made a value statement that one person was more valuable than another, and even in sending them away, you wanted to send him away with so much care, and you just freaking threw me off.Yeah. It threw me overboard. So, Katherine: yeah. Oh my gosh. I have heard so many stories [00:53:00] like that of just like, they'll be so stingy with the person who blew the whistle. And then when they, you know, get forced to like, get rid of the pastor because it's just, too much collateral to keep him on because so many people are leaving or for whatever reason and and then they just send him off with like a year of severance and like you know continue to pay his insurance and like all this kind of stuff and you're just like guys yeah it is not an equitable system in any way shape or form Jenai: i would say i probably if i had to venture a guess i will never find a civil suit filed against me because I in gathering evidence and in kind of trusting my gut.They didn't know that I was recording things after they let me go and terminated me. They began a quote unquote internal investigation. And if anyone knows, it's not really that much of an investigation where they investigate themselves, [00:54:00] you know, like, come on, man. But. In these internal investigation talks, I recorded everything, and I was kind of triangulating the information with some members.And I was asking them, what are they telling you? Because this is what I was told. And what are they telling you? And thankfully, some of those what they were telling the members, some of that's recorded in member meetings. And so I was like, okay. One way. I think we mentioned before pastors still feel like they are just leaders in general feel like they have power.That's why they keep coming after you. And then 1 way to prevent that is to get your own power back. Once I revealed to them that I had been recording things. and catching them in their lies. Katherine: Yes. Jenai: They realized, Oh, we can't just tell her one thing and tell the members another thing. Cause I remember, I remember them telling me, you know, pastors on [00:55:00] probation, pastors, this, I recorded that meeting without their, their knowledge, because it's one party consent.And then I heard from the member meeting that Pastor went on stage and he said, they've given me time off. Like he wasn't, he wasn't forthright with I'm on probation. They also gave him the power to tell the story himself. Katherine: Yeah. Jenai: Which I thought, don't you know? And they were like, we gave him like an opportunity to own.And I was like, no, you didn't. You gave him an opportunity to save face and Katherine: I Jenai: sent them an email. And I said, this is what you've done. This is what I was told. Here is the screen recording. I don't know if this is the case anymore, but there's an app called Loom, where I, I think they might have disabled this feature.This was early days, 2020, when people were figuring out screen recording and all that stuff. But Loom will record, did record my screen. And because I didn't do it through Zoom, it didn't let the person know that I was [00:56:00] recording the call. Katherine: And so, Jenai: I sent them that video that said, This is what you said. Here it is in the transcript.And they stopped. Like, they just, they realized, Oh my gosh, we have to be more careful with her. Katherine: Mm hmm. And then at Jenai: that point, they, I noticed significantly that they were mincing words with me. Because, Katherine: they knew. Jenai: Well, and because I got my power back, they just couldn't just tell me anything anymore.I was weighing and measuring it against everything else they were telling other people. Katherine: Yeah, yeah. And if you are still happen to be in your situation, your abusive situation, document, document, document, document, document. If you can't record it, you can, you can leave a meeting and you can write your own notes.You can save the emails, as you know, I was saying, save the screenshots. Have your have all of your things that feel so weird to do that. Like you're just like a double agent. But just think of it that [00:57:00] way. Like, like you are a double agent in a hostile regime, just like, like that person. And yeah. and protect yourself and give yourself what you need to survive that.Speaking of survival in the event that you do get sued it is a very traumatizing situation to, like, have to be interacting with this stuff again and to not have agency over when you interact with that stuff. And, and it can be very re traumatizing. Litigation abuse is a real thing, such as. A, you know, woman tries to leave her violently abusive husband, even has a restraining order out.And for that husband to just want, he just wants to keep controlling her and maintain contact with her. We'll just sue her for nothing just to, to maintain the contact. So litigation abuse is a real thing. And that might help to just kind of look at it. That way of like, I'm [00:58:00] being abused in real time and care for yourself.If that were true, surround yourself with people, take a lot of naps be in therapy, if you can and give yourself a lot of tenderness and care in that situation. And you don't have to be this strong, bad ass all the time. Like if it's hard for you and it is a struggle, that's okay. It's okay if that is a struggle for you and you and it impacts you.That's why they're doing it. Like they're trying to impact you and for it to actually impact you and actually be like real time abuse that you're experiencing and for that to have an effect on you, that's okay. And give yourself resources in that situation so that you are actually being supported.when that is happening. One final thought and then I'll let you share final thoughts [00:59:00] too. If you decide that you want to file a civil suit against against a perpetrator or an abuser and you got a lot of evidence and a lot of corroboration and you think you got a good case, there are lawyers that work on contingency who will look at your case and say, I'm going to defend this case for free and I get paid if you get paid.So that is an option to do your research and not legal advice, but I really hope more people will do that. Do that, do that thing and just let them know, Hey, you're going to sue us. We're going to sue you. Monique, any final thoughts or any other things that you want to add to something that we left out or holes to fill?Yeah, Jenai: yeah. I will say if you live in a two party state and you have to get consent before recording, that can still work in your favor too. So after my former leaders found out I was recording, they eventually asked me to partake in a reconciliatory meeting. And I, I know I was like, I [01:00:00] will, I will come to that.And I told them I will come to that on two conditions. I, I had already sat on one side of the table with all six of them before. And I said, I need advocates there for me. Beyond my husband, I, I, I want people there who are for there for us. And the second request was that I record the meeting.If you, I thought, well, it's going, they're going to be much more careful with their words when they record the meeting, but still in that meeting, there were still some tells. Katherine: Yeah. For Jenai: instance, one thing I wrote about in other, I think maybe it's chapter three about apologies. And how I'm sorry, you feel that way is different than I, I'm sorry, I did this to you.Katherine: Yeah. Jenai: And in this rec, like this meeting that they, that they, they said, yes, they let me record it. They still said, I'm sorry, you feel that way. I'm sorry. You feel like you, I would, I had dismissed you and I'm sorry. And like, they still [01:01:00] kind of tell on themselves. So if you live in a two party state and you feel like you can't do these clever one party things.You can still gather good information, even if you ask. And they will still, they show their colors, even if they don't think that they're showing their colors. Like, I really think sometimes, sometimes some people know what they're doing and I think sometimes the self deception is so deep, they just don't know how bonkers it is.Or they're Katherine: super arrogant and they, they really genuinely feel like they can do whatever they want. Jenai: Yeah, yeah. And so there are ways in which you can gather information, even if, like, you don't have a similar one party state situation, like I do. I will also say that when it comes time to providing corroboration, you know, Asking for corroboration, I mentioned, was really hard, but also going back through the evidence, some of my evidence was audio or video recording, and [01:02:00] I had to go back and listen to Jenai: Or watch the video and provide a timestamp.I had to send them the audio or video link and give them a timestamp, and I, that was very difficult. Very hard on me. I did it because I needed to, but if that sounds like something you don't want to do try to find you'll, you'll, if you want to write it the way that you have it and not say, I remember this, you want to actually use that.Just be gentle with yourself. That is a really hard thing. I think I needed to not look at the book for a while after providing evidence because that was listening to those voices and seeing those faces again. It was really hard. And so I just wanted, I didn't want to not say that because people think, Oh, I have all this evidence going back and looking at the evidence can be really, really hard on you.Yeah. Katherine: Yeah, absolutely. And it's so important to just have our, our agency and interact with the [01:03:00] material in our own way in our own time. And when you have something like a book deadline, You don't always have that that capacity to just, yeah. You know, do it on your own time and just when you, when you feel good enough for it.And and a and a civil suit similar is there's deadlines, there's timelines, and you can't just like, oh, I just wanna block out this day and then the next day I'm gonna go get a massage. Like, you don't always have that agency. And just that, just that lack of control within that. Contacts can also feel retraumatizing.And so since we probably discouraged everybody listening to from going public with their stories, what let's remind folks again, like why it's sometimes important to go public with our stories. Jenai: I think it was important to me personally to keep my integrity. I did everything I could do to stop someone else from getting hurt.I, I stood up, I did exactly what my [01:04:00] faith had encouraged me to do. I did exactly the thing I, I believe. And I write this in the book sharing your story and telling your story and owning your story is a way to be like what I think the prophets of the old Testament did. The prophets, they didn't tell fortunes.They were calling people in power to account. I now realize the weight of that, like, oh my gosh, like that is, I did exactly, I spoke up and I don't, I know that not everyone will speak up, not everyone, you know, I had power, I had gathered all this evidence, I had the power to speak up because I had kind of things that bolstered me, not everyone has that, and I, I don't want anyone to feel shame If they feel like they can't tell their story because they don't have that same kind of support or evidence but keep telling your story to yourself so that you're validating yourself.If, if no one else will affirm you, there is still so much power in [01:05:00] affirming your own truth, your own story. No one can take that away from you, but they will do their damnedest to take it away from you. I will also say that it is. mentally grueling. It is I just want people to take care of themselves.Above all, just, just to, if you do and do this work and you know you're going to tell your story give yourself a lot of space and say no to other things that Yeah. Other expectations, other, you know, there are other friends who I'm promoting this book and it's a very vulnerable book. There are other friends who are also writers who also want me to write endorsements or who also in this particular time want me to do something for them and support them.And as much as I love them, I have had to say no to a lot of them as I promote this book or do this work because I'm trying to do it well and with capacity. And because the story is so vulnerable, it takes a lot out of me. So say like, just be [01:06:00] understanding that you have to say no to a lot of people that you love and like, that's okay.Yeah, the people who love you who hear no from you will still like acknowledge that this is okay. Katherine: Absolutely. Jenai: If they take offense to that, then maybe they aren't as big a support as you thought they were and just redraw the boundaries of that relationship, but make a lot of space for you and doing this work.Katherine: Absolutely. And the reality that it's really important to tell our story, to tell our version of the story, to reclaim our narrative, to reclaim our power post an abusive situation, but there are many ways to do that. And telling a story publicly does not have to be the only or only way. Or even an option like we it's important to tell those stories 100 percent highly encouraged finding safe places where you can tell your story.You don't have to go public with it. [01:07:00] Absolutely. And, and. There are things you can do if you decide that that's important to you to make sure that you are taking care of yourself and protecting yourself. Listen to this episode for that. As we wrap up, how can people find you, find your book, interact with you, and yeah, what are the easiest places for people to get in touch with you?Jenai: I am everywhere on the internet at Janiyah Amin. And I'm usually hanging out on Instagram, not really on Twitter or X or whatever it is anymore. It's getting more vitriolic over there. I also, what prompted this conversation was not only that I'm promoting a book, but I also wrote about this experience on Substack.And if you want, Catherine, I can send you the link and you can include that in any show notes on the website, but also what I've considered doing and wha
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