Podcast appearances and mentions of mason cosby

Outbound has changed. What worked two years ago does not work today, and what works today is not going to work two years from now. On this episode of Scrappy ABM, Mason Cosby sits down with Drew Johnson, Senior Director of Business Development at Everflow, to walk through how his team actually picks targets, runs LinkedIn-led outreach, and knows when to pivot off a vertical that has stopped paying out.ㅤDrew runs outbound for a bootstrapped affiliate-tracking platform going up against bigger logos. He calls it David versus Goliath. To compete, his SDRs and AEs lean on LinkedIn over InMail, treat the connection request and the pitch as two separate problems, and build target lists off of verticals where one client win has already started to pop. The conversation gets tactical fast: when to abandon a list of 70 accounts, why the five-minute response window after a connection accept matters, and what to do when the decision-maker keeps ignoring you.ㅤ

Most of us have run an event, watched the in-person conversations crackle, then sent the same templated follow-up to everyone on the lead list. The energy disappears the moment marketing hits send. That gap is what Dave Schools set out to close when he started Singulate, and it's what he and Mason Cosby get into on this episode of Scrappy ABM.ㅤDave breaks down why marketing ops keeps becoming the bottleneck on personalization, why data is now a commodity but messaging is not, and what it actually takes to send hyper-segmented email at scale without sounding like AI. He shares the four channels working for Singulate today, the 15% open-rate bump from a single hook rewrite, and the framework his team uses to keep humans in the loop while AI does the heavy lifting.ㅤIf you're a revenue leader running ABM with a limited budget and a database full of underused signals, this conversation gives you a clearer picture of what to do with what you already have.ㅤ

This episode pulls a question-and-answer block from Scrappy ABM's ABM in a Day workshop, the recurring session Mason Cosby runs every four to six weeks. Mason takes the questions that have surfaced most often across past workshops and answers them in one sitting, drawing on the patterns he sees show up across operators in the room.ㅤThe questions cover what most ABM teams hit in their first six months. When you should and shouldn't run ABM. What the LTGP-to-CAC ratio means for software companies. How to pick the next vertical without burning the program. What to do when leadership asks for accounts that don't match the data. How to hit LinkedIn's 300 matched-contact floor when your account list is small.ㅤIf you've sat in front of a half-built target account list with a CEO breathing down your neck for logos, this episode is the answers, in order.ㅤ

Most ABM programs start with a plan and die with a calendar. Moréa Pollet spent three years watching that happen at InfluxData - and then figured out why. On this episode of Scrappy ABM, Mason Cosby sits down with Moréa to walk through exactly how her team rebuilt their ABM motion from the ground up, using Clay-powered enrichment, AI-generated personalization, and a LinkedIn funnel built for technical buyers.ㅤThe conversation covers what killed version one (sales bandwidth, no real operationalization), what made version two stick (automating everything except the phone call), and the honest truth about measuring ABM success before pipeline is even on the table. InfluxData is an open-source company targeting software engineers - which means they're running ABM in one of the hardest targeting environments possible. The playbook Moréa shares is specific, scrappy, and repeatable.ㅤ

Most security and risk companies sell fear. Factal sells facts - and their ABM program reflects that difference. On this episode of Scrappy ABM, Mason Cosby sits down with Dave Clark, Marketing Strategist at Factal, to break down how a two-person marketing team with no dedicated ABM stack runs targeted, personalized outreach to Fortune 500 security operations centers - without resorting to fear-mongering.ㅤThe conversation covers how Factal uses NGO champions who move into the private sector as a warm targeting signal, why Dave ignores click-through rates (and why that made them go up 40%), and how to measure ABM success when hyper-attribution is no longer realistic.ㅤ

This is an interview of Mason on the GTM & AI Operators Show.ㅤWhat happens when you strip away the enterprise budget, the fancy ABM platform, and the eight-person marketing team - and still have to hit a revenue number? That's the premise behind Scrappy ABM, and in this episode, Mason Cosby sits down with Aakash Sinha on the GTM & AI Operators Show to break down what ABM actually is, when it works, and why most programs fail before they ever get going. Mason walks through the four core reasons ABM programs break down, how to tell if your ICP is real or just aspirational, and what it actually takes to build a program that generates pipeline without a bloated budget.ㅤ

Building an effective account-based program brings up a lot of specific questions. On this episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby answers the most frequent questions pulled directly from previous ABM in a Day workshops. Mason addresses exactly what re-engagement means and when accounts should cycle out of your program.ㅤMason details the minimum viable tools required to run a successful strategy. He warns against buying new software before establishing a clear plan. Instead, he explains how your strategy should inform the tools you use. You only really need a CRM, a marketing automation platform, and a sales outreach tool.ㅤThe conversation also addresses the common conflict between outbound sales outreach and marketing automation sequences. Mason explains how to turn sales into a distribution channel. This ensures target accounts get the same message across multiple channels, making your overall outreach more intentional.ㅤ

Account-based marketing does not strictly require massive budgets or gated landing pages. Sometimes, all it takes is showing up where your target accounts already spend their time online. On this episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby speaks with Greg Rokisky about a highly specific, low-cost marketing play.Greg details the process of building an organic social account program during his time at Sprout Social. He explains how his team partnered closely with sales to identify target accounts and monitor their activity. When a target brand had a viral moment, Greg's team engaged directly on platforms like Twitter and LinkedIn.This strategy created a "bouncy trampoline" effect. Social engagement became a jumping-off point that account executives could use for warmer outreach. Greg and Mason also discuss how to make one-to-one video content that still works for a broader audience, and how to measure the revenue return of simple online interactions.Guest BioGreg Rokisky serves as the Senior Social Media Marketing Manager at Calendly, a scheduling automation platform designed to eliminate the back-and-forth of booking meetings. Prior to Calendly, Greg worked as a Senior Social Media Strategist at Sprout Social, where he led campaigns and built out the organic programs discussed in this episode.Greg is a strong advocate for a social-first customer journey and the creator economy. He focuses on inclusive, human-centered storytelling. You can connect with Greg Rokisky on LinkedIn to see more of his content.What We CoverHow Greg transitioned from standard social media management to pioneering a target account program.The process of creating a "bouncy trampoline" for sales by engaging with quick-service restaurant brands on social channels.Using organic comments as a direct handoff to account executives for warmer outbound messaging.Building one-to-one content that remains valuable for a one-to-many public audience.Tracking success through a pilot program and moving toward a custom W-model attribution strategy.Connecting online interactions to in-person events like Dreamforce and South by Southwest.The missed opportunity of not tying the B2B creator economy into the account strategy from day one.Resources MentionedSprout SocialSales AssemblyDreamforceSouth by SouthwestScrappy ABM: Visit for more ABM tips and strategies. (Link ScrappyABM.com)Connect with Mason on LinkedIn for a conversation about ABM (Link Mason's LinkedIn)If you enjoyed today's episode and found valuable insights for your business, be sure to subscribe to the Scrappy ABM podcast for more expert discussions. Don't forget to leave a review and share this episode with your team or fellow marketers!

Struggling to get buy-in for your ABM program budget? Securing hundreds of thousands of dollars for marketing initiatives requires a specific, structured process. In this episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby walks through the exact four steps for building ABM programs and getting leaders on board quickly.ㅤInstead of asking for a budget right away, marketers must first audit their current efforts. Mason Cosby explains how to map out everything from SEO to organic social events. He breaks down how to categorize these programs by their intended purpose to create your first account progression model.ㅤThis model guides accounts from initial awareness straight to buying readiness. By identifying specific gaps and presenting a clear plan first, you can ask leadership for help solving large initiatives rather than just asking for dollars. You will learn how to complete this entire mapping process and secure the resources you need in under an hour.ㅤ

Most ABM programs fail not because they have a bad strategy, but because they execute in the wrong sequence. Marketers often start with a blank canvas and build strictly at the awareness stage for cold accounts. Brand recall typically takes three to six months. Because of this timeline delay, executive leadership often cuts the program before it generates any actual pipeline.ㅤOn Scrappy ABM, Mason Cosby explains why mathematically paying off debt with the Avalanche method is the fastest, but the Snowball method is actually the most successful. The Snowball method works because human psychology requires momentum and early wins. Mason applies this exact logic to scaling an ABM program long-term.ㅤInstead of starting at the top with unaware buyers, Mason recommends starting with audiences that already know your brand. By focusing on Closed-Lost opportunities, customer win-back programs, or pipeline acceleration, you can skip the three to six months of brand recall. You get a quick win, prove that coordinated sales and marketing efforts work, and secure the momentum needed to build out the rest of the strategy.ㅤ

Buyers are not searching Google keywords in the dark funnel anymore. They are asking questions in private channels, large-language-model communities, Perplexity, and Slack communities. In episode 259 of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby sits down with Lisa Sharapata to discuss this exact shift in buyer behavior.ㅤLisa shares how she is rewriting marketing playbooks by getting closer to the customer through first and second-party intent signals, in-person events, and Answer Engine Optimization (AEO). She explains how to use artificial intelligence to find content gaps, draft resources with human-in-the-loop oversight, and build highly specific dashboards using Claude code.ㅤMason Cosby and Lisa also discuss why turning off your brand advertising is a mistake and how a strong partnership with sales is strictly required for any account-based marketing program to survive.ㅤ

If you are not hitting your pipeline goals, you might be ignoring the easiest way to generate revenue: a systematic referral program. Mason Cosby argues that most organizations leave millions of dollars on the table simply because they do not know how to ask for referrals effectively.ㅤMany revenue leaders fall into the trap of thinking referrals are serendipitous or awkward to request. In this episode of Scrappy ABM, Mason breaks down a repeatable process to turn referrals into a scalable revenue engine. He explains exactly when to make the ask, how to structure incentives so everyone wins, and why even offboarding can be a prime opportunity for growth.ㅤWhat We CoverThe three common referral camps: Why most companies either never ask, only get referrals by accident, or rely on a single salesperson to do all the work.The "Wingman Referral" concept: How to structure incentives (inspired by Acquisition.com) that reward both the person making the referral and the new prospect.Asking at the close: Why new customers are actually the best source of referrals immediately after they sign the contract.Leveraging QBRs: Using Quarterly Business Reviews to remind happy clients about referral incentives with a one-time invoice discount.Monetizing offboarding: A strategy to waive final invoices in exchange for introductions when a client leaves due to budget cuts.The economics of referrals: How to calculate the right incentive amount based on your existing Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC).Target Account Mapping: Moving away from generic "who do you know" questions to asking for specific introductions within your target market.ㅤResourcesAcquisition.com: The source of the "Wingman Referral" concept mentioned by Mason.Scrappy ABM: Visit for more ABM tips and strategies.Connect with Mason: Connect with Mason on LinkedIn for a conversation about ABM.ㅤIf you enjoyed today's episode and found valuable insights for your business, be sure to subscribe to the Scrappy ABM podcast for more expert discussions. Don't forget to leave a review and share this episode with your team or fellow marketers!

If you are struggling to make your revenue results highly repeatable, you need a simple system to ensure you cover all your bases. In this episode of Scrappy ABM, Mason Cosby walks through the "4D framework" that has helped generate a hundred million in revenue over the past three years.ㅤMason breaks down the four critical components of every successful program: Data, Distribution, Destination, and Direction. He explains why simply sending mass emails to a database fails to create nuanced messaging and how to align your outreach triggers with the right people. You will learn why the standard "book a call" page is often the wrong destination for prospects and how to measure success based on where a buyer actually sits in their journey.ㅤ

Mason Cosby shares a webinar on finding a treasure trove of opportunities in closed-lost programs. If you are looking for a quick way to generate a pipeline right now, this is it. You have already spent money to acquire these accounts, built relationships, and uncovered real pain. Mason explains why 60 to 80 percent of closed-lost opportunities are lost for reasons that can change: budget, timing, and priorities.ㅤThis episode breaks down the 4 D framework: Data, Distribution, Destination, and Direction. Mason outlines a systematic approach to re-engagement rather than just reaching out when the pipeline is low. He walks through specific playbooks designed to address industry changes, overcome past objections, and engage missing personas in the buying committee.ㅤWhat We CoverDefining ABM as a Revenue Strategy: Aligning marketing, sales, and customer success around shared target accounts that reflect your best customers.Why ABM Programs Fail: How a lack of sales marketing alignment, measurement difficulties, and undefined ownership stall progress.The 4D Framework: Using Data (targets and triggers), Distribution (channels), Destination (content), and Direction (measurement) to build repeatable processes.Vertical Specific Playbooks: Reactivating deals by addressing industry changes—like tariffs or regulations—that impact your target accounts.Objection-Based Playbooks: Creating campaigns that directly address and diffuse reasons for saying no, such as pricing, missing features, or status quo.Persona-Based Playbooks: Identifying deal cycles where key decision makers were missing or single-threaded, and re-engaging with a multi-threaded approach.Roles in Distribution: Why the Account Executive should lead outreach to known contacts while SDRs and Executives support with new contacts and alignment.ㅤResources MentionedScrappy ABM Plan TemplateABM in a Day WorkshopFathomHubSpotLinkedInㅤResources:Scrappy ABM: Visit for more ABM tips and strategies.Connect with Mason on LinkedIn for a conversation about ABM: Mason CosbyㅤIf you enjoyed today's episode and found valuable insights for your business, be sure to subscribe to the Scrappy ABM podcast for more expert discussions. Don't forget to leave a review and share this episode with your team or fellow marketers!

Mason Cosby connects with Putney Cloos, the Chief Marketing Officer at Bombora, to clarify exactly what intent data is and how revenue teams should use it. While many marketers view intent data strictly as a tool for sales prioritization, Putney argues that the use cases go much deeper. She explains the difference between first-party data collected from owned properties and third-party data gathered from across the web.ㅤA major focus of the conversation is data provenance. Putney highlights a critical but often overlooked question: Does your data provider actually have the right to use the data they sell? She details how Bombora uses a proprietary tag within a data co-op to ensure consent is explicitly granted for intent tracking.ㅤMason and Putney also explore how to operationalize this data without buying a massive, all-in-one platform. They discuss the "unbundled" ABM stack, where data is ported directly into the tools teams already use, such as CRMs, CDPs, or advertising platforms like The Trade Desk and LinkedIn.ㅤGuest BioPutney Cloos is the Chief Marketing Officer at Bombora, where she leads marketing and communications to expand the company's "Data Co-op" and intent data solutions. She previously served as CMO at Cision, where she built the company's first account-level data strategy. Putney also spent nearly a decade at American Express, rising to Vice President of Commercial Demand Generation and creating Amex's first commercial demand-generation and ABM capabilities. She holds an AB from Harvard College and an MBA from the Kellogg School of Management.ㅤWhat We CoverDefining intent data: Putney clarifies that intent is behavioral data showing when a company is actively researching a solution, distinct from static firmographic data.First-party vs. third-party signals: The difference between tracking known visitors on your own site versus capturing research behaviors across the broader B2B internet.The importance of data rights: Why marketers must ask if their provider has explicit consent to use data for intent purposes, rather than relying on repurposed bidstream data.Reducing customer churn: How customer success teams use intent signals to spot when current clients start researching competitors before the renewal conversation happens.Informing the product roadmap: Using search behavior to identify unmet market needs or features that prospects are actively seeking.The unbundled tech stack: How to deploy intent data directly into existing platforms like Salesforce, HubSpot, or programmatic ad exchanges without needing a standalone ABM platform.Start simple: Putney's advice to pick one specific use case—like sales prioritization—and master it before adding...

Mason Cosby shares a conversation from the Growth & Conversions podcast with Meghana Bhate. The discussion centers on a practical scenario: launching an Account-Based Marketing program for a greenfield account with high annual contract value.ㅤMason breaks down the process, starting with targeting based on profitability and retention rather than just revenue. He explains how to map the buying committee by analyzing deal records and introduces the Account Progression Model. You will hear how to build awareness, validate existence, and move accounts through meaningful engagement using existing tools and content.ㅤWhat We CoverTargeting based on profit: Why you must verify product-market fit and profitability before launching ABM to ensure you get more of your best customers.The Account Progression Model: A stage-by-stage breakdown from Awareness and Initial Engagement to MQA, SQA, and Opportunity.Parsable Case Study: How a manufacturing software company used an SAP integration and closed-lost opportunities to drive revenue in four months.ABM vs. Demand Gen: Understanding the difference between broad demand generation and finite, sales-supported account-based marketing.AI in ABM: Why you should use AI for data cleaning and segmentation before attempting to scale content or distribution.Sales alignment: How to identify the buying committee by associating contacts to deal records and reviewing call transcripts.ㅤResourcesScrappy ABM Templates: Download the program planning templates mentioned in the episode.Scrappy ABM Newsletter: Sign up for unique content sent directly to your inbox.Scrappy ABM: Visit for more ABM tips and strategies.Connect with Mason on LinkedIn: Start a conversation about ABM.ㅤIf you enjoyed today's episode and found valuable insights for your business, be sure to subscribe to the Scrappy ABM podcast for more expert discussions. Don't forget to leave a review and share this episode with your team or fellow marketers!

Most marketers follow a strict rule: never send paid traffic to a homepage. Tony Bradberry and the team at Grey Matter break that rule every day. Tony joins Mason Cosby to explain how a "problem-centric" homepage can actually outperform specific landing pages when the messaging is right. He argues that if your core message resonates with the buyer's problem, the homepage should be the best place to start.ㅤThey also discuss Grey Matter's evolution into a tech-enabled ABM approach. Tony breaks down their internal "Intelligent Dossier" tool, which automates research and generates custom landing pages for individual buyers. The conversation covers how to run broad high-intent search campaigns alongside surgical, data-driven ABM programs to drive sustainable growth.ㅤGuest BioTony Bradberry is the Managing Director at Grey Matter, a customer acquisition agency based in Cincinnati, Ohio. With a background starting in inside sales and sales engineering, Tony applies an "engineering" mindset to B2B marketing. He helps technical and industrial companies modernize their go-to-market strategies by focusing on problem-solving rather than merely selling services. Under his leadership, Grey Matter has been recognized on the Inc. 5000 list for three consecutive years.ㅤWhat We CoverWhy Grey Matter sends paid ad traffic directly to their homepage instead of niche landing pages.The difference between transactional messaging and problem-centric messaging in B2B.How to use an "Intelligent Dossier" to automate account research and create buyer battle cards.Creating dynamic landing pages that automatically adapt content based on the viewer's persona (e.g., CEO vs. CFO).Integrating AI tools like HeyGen to scale personalized video outreach without losing authenticity.The importance of running high-intent search and ABM programs in parallel rather than choosing one over the other.Why data quality is the single most important factor when using AI to generate content.ㅤResources MentionedGrey MatterGrey Matter Messaging Audit ToolScrappy ABMConnect with Mason Cosby on LinkedInㅤIf you enjoyed today's...

Buying technology first to inform marketing strategy is a common mistake. This approach burns through the typical three-to-six-month grace period executives give for new initiatives. By the time the tech is implemented, there is no revenue to show, and the program gets cut.ㅤMason Cosby joins Andrea Coloma, Product Marketer at Dreamdata, for a live session on the Attributed podcast to discuss building repeatable account-based marketing plays. Mason explains why companies should prove ABM works using their current tooling before investing in expensive software. They discuss how to navigate the shift from lead generation to ABM over a 12-to-24-month timeframe without starting over completely. The discussion outlines specific frameworks for tracking account progression and activating playbooks that move best-fit customers through the pipeline.ㅤWhat We CoverWhy buying technology first creates a false sense of progress and wastes the initial grace window given by leadership.The five common problems that stall ABM programs: targeting issues, lack of leadership buy-in, sales and marketing misalignment, poor resourcing, and unclear measurement.Moving from the overwhelming idea of "I don't have an ABM program" to identifying specific problems to solve.The Account Progression Model: A framework for moving accounts from awareness to opportunity using intentional programming at every stage.The 4D Framework for activation playbooks: Data, Distribution, Destination, and Direction.A practical event playbook: Using data to target attendees and local accounts before, during, and after an event.Using a referral program as an ABM tactic: Offering a 2% discount in exchange for introductions to specific prospects on a target list.How to start sales and marketing alignment with just one to three sellers: specifically those who are engaged, on a PIP, or top performers.ㅤResourcesScrappy ABM: Visit for more ABM tips and strategies. ScrappyABM.comConnect with Mason: Mason Cosby on LinkedInDreamdata: Dreamdata.ioAttributed Podcast: Attributed - A podcast by Dreamdata

Most companies treat events as a logo parade or a chance to walk the floor, relying on hope, dreams, and prayers to scan badges and make money later. Mason Cosby argues that if your event is not ROI positive before your plane takes off, you are doing events wrong. Events should be viewed as a relationship accelerator for existing connections rather than a place to blindly hope for new ones.ㅤMason breaks down a tactical plan to ensure every event generates a return. He outlines four core sections: pre-event preparation, event execution, follow-up, and speaking sessions. He explains how to identify exactly who is attending, how to book meetings before you arrive, and why you must leave the event with next steps already scheduled.ㅤWhat We CoverThe four core sections of an event strategy: A breakdown of pre-event, during the event, follow-up, and speaking sessions.Identifying attendees early: Using past event lists, event apps, social media hashtags, and location filters on LinkedIn to find people before the conference starts.Strategic meeting scheduling: How to book meetings around relevant agenda sessions and find people actively seeking solutions to specific problems.The BAMFAM rule: Why you must "Book A Meeting From A Meeting" to ensure sales cycles continue moving after the event ends.Leveraging speaking sessions: Creating a specific content offer for the room and using the session to segment the audience into hand-raisers and future prospects.The "Free Consultant" approach: How Mason uses speaking opportunities to offer help without selling, while directing immediate buyers to the sales team.Hosting private side events: Using dinners or cocktail hours to target top accounts and ensure the trip is ROI positive through a few key opportunities.ㅤResources MentionedScrappy ABM Newsletter: Get actionable tactical playbooks delivered to your inbox.Scrappy ABM: Visit for more ABM tips and strategies.Connect with Mason on LinkedIn: Start a conversation about ABM.ㅤIf you enjoyed today's episode and found valuable insights for your business, be sure to subscribe to the Scrappy ABM podcast for more expert discussions. Don't forget to leave a review and share this episode with your team or fellow marketers!

Mason Cosby sits down with Gillian Hinkle to discuss the complexities of marketing within a portfolio company. When an organization moves from a single product to a suite of services, marketers often struggle to build intentional sequencing. Gillian shares her approach to identifying customer behaviors and mapping the overlap between different buying committees.ㅤShe explains why you cannot go it alone: you must work with other teams to find commonalities in lead information and problem sets. A critical part of her strategy is to market to the internal sales team first. If sellers do not understand the deal cycle or how a new product addresses a specific pain point, they will not present it to their customers.ㅤGillian also details how to protect the customer relationship by validating data with product managers before launching a campaign. She emphasizes the importance of "small measures"—tracking observable behaviors and engagement rates in internal channels like Slack—to understand program success before revenue numbers come in.ㅤGuest BioGillian Hinkle is a seasoned marketing leader currently serving as the Senior Director of Product Marketing at Salesforce, with a focus on Heroku, a cloud platform as a service (PaaS). Her career trajectory transitions from an initial background in arts administration and education to technical B2B marketing leadership in the SaaS and cloud infrastructure sectors. Before joining Salesforce, Hinkle served as Director of Growth Marketing at Earnix.ㅤWhat We CoverUsing behavioral data to identify which customers are ready for expansion products.How to map the overlap between different buying groups—like marketing buyers versus data buyers—in a portfolio company.Why you must understand sales compensation before asking account managers to sell a new product.The strategy of "marketing to sellers" first: using enablement sessions to test if an offer is right for the current market.Protecting customer relationships by excluding unqualified accounts and validating pain points with product teams.Using Slack channels and lists to manage program execution and track internal engagement.The importance of reporting "small measures" and observable behaviors when revenue data is not yet available.ㅤResourcesHeroku: A cloud platform as a service (PaaS) supporting several programming languages.Slack: The primary communication tool Gillian uses for program management.

If you are tired of getting ignored, show up in the one place your prospects cannot ignore you: their mailbox.ㅤIf you have been building a B2B marketing program, direct mail has likely come up. Unfortunately, it is often thrown out immediately—just like the junk mail you get at home. This happens because most marketers treat it as a cold opener or a mass outreach tool. On this episode of Scrappy ABM, Mason Cosby explains why you should never use direct mail to start a conversation with someone who has never heard of you.ㅤInstead, Mason breaks down how to use physical mail to re-engage stalled deals or accelerate existing relationships. He shares why receiving a package is a "delightful interruption" compared to the crowded digital ad space, where you are constantly outbid. You will learn exactly where to insert direct mail into your pipeline, why you should start with a small pilot of 10 to 50 accounts, and why sending your own company swag is usually a mistake.ㅤWhat We CoverThe problem with cold direct mail: Why sending physical items to people who do not know you ends up in the trash.The "Delightful Interruption": How to provide context and excitement when a prospect opens a package.Avoiding the bidding war: Why the mailbox offers less competition than social media feeds.Three specific places to use direct mail: Stalled pipeline opportunities, historical funnel drop-off points (like free trials), and customer renewals.The Nike shoe example: How a personalized gift after a renewal created a lasting positive memory.Starting small: Why a 10-account pilot with a higher budget per gift often yields better ROI than mass sends.The swag rule: Why you should offer your branded gear as an option rather than the default gift.Internal alignment: The critical need for Sales and Customer Success to follow up immediately upon a package's arrival.ㅤResourcesScrappy ABM Newsletter: Get weekly B2B marketing answers and tips. Subscribe here.Dreamdata: Mentioned for their 2025 benchmark report content play. Visit Dreamdata.Visit for more ABM tips and strategiesConnect with Mason on LinkedInㅤIf you enjoyed today's episode and found valuable insights for your business, be sure to subscribe...

BambooHR built a massive brand on inbound marketing for small businesses. As the company looks to move upmarket to target larger, growing organizations, its strategy must evolve to cut through the noise. Hannah Forson joins Mason Cosby to explain how she layers account-based strategies on top of an existing inbound engine without bringing the bank.ㅤThe conversation focuses on the practical steps of defining a target audience by analyzing closed-won opportunities rather than guessing. Hannah explains why marketers should rarely start an ABM pilot by creating net-new content and how to repurpose what already works. She also shares the honest reality of managing internal expectations when ABM sales cycles take twice as long as standard inbound deals, and how to partner with channel managers who worry about how targeted campaigns affect their metrics.ㅤAbout Hannah ForsonHannah Forson is the Sr. Manager of Demand Generation at BambooHR, where she leads the programs team focused on mid-to-bottom funnel demand generation. She specializes in building efficient strategies that drive high-quality leads and pipeline. Before joining BambooHR, Hannah worked at Pluralsight and has spent years building marketing programs in both bootstrapped and public organization environments.ㅤWhat We CoverDefining the audience through data: How to use historical closed-won opportunities to identify the right company size and industry "sweet spots."The decision committee breakdown: Why finance professionals need a different message than HR leaders and how to prepare sales teams for those conversations.Collaborating with channel managers: Specific ways to run ABM campaigns on paid social without ruining a channel manager's core metrics or CPMs.The "If it's not broken, don't fix it" content strategy: Why you should audit your existing inventory and tweak successful assets rather than building from scratch.Managing timeline expectations: Dealing with executive pressure when targeted deals take twice as long to close as transactional inbound leads.Quality over quantity: Shifting focus from volume of form fills to capturing the right accounts that stick around longer.Storytelling for buy-in: How to use individual deal journeys to prove the value of ABM to leadership and individual contributors.ㅤResourcesBambooHRScrappy ABM: Visit for more ABM tips and strategies.

"Where are all of my leads?" If you are a B2B marketer, you have likely heard this question at least twice today. Continuing to focus on lead generation might cost you your job. In this episode of Scrappy ABM, Mason Cosby explains why the lead gen model is broken for B2B and offers a better path forward.ㅤMost people experience marketing in a B2C context, where the goal is to get hundreds of thousands of people to click "buy." But B2B is nuanced and complex. Mason breaks down why applying a volume-based approach to a quality-based game destroys credibility. You will learn why celebrating high download numbers often leads to an empty pipeline and makes marketing look like an "arts and crafts" department rather than a revenue partner.ㅤWhat We CoverThe disconnect between B2C volume and B2B precision: Why treating business buyers like mass consumers fails.Celebrating the wrong metrics: How high webinar attendance and download numbers can hide a complete lack of sales pipeline.The trust gap: Why sales teams stop believing marketing when leads do not even remember downloading a resource.Efficiency of spend: Understanding why a sub-10% lead-to-opportunity conversion rate means you are wasting 90% of your budget.Damaging the brand: How aggressive lead gen tactics annoy potential buyers who are not ready to purchase.Building a target list: Practical steps to move from a generic Ideal Customer Profile (ICP) to a specific list of accounts.The ABM alternative: How to get buy-in from leadership, sales, and customer success to market only to companies you actually want to work with.ㅤResourcesScrappy ABM: Visit for more ABM tips and strategies.Connect with Mason on LinkedIn for a conversation about ABM.ㅤIf you enjoyed today's episode and found valuable insights for your business, be sure to subscribe to the Scrappy ABM podcast for more expert discussions. Don't forget to leave a review and share this episode with your team or fellow marketers!

Mason Cosby sits down with Adam Holmgren, CEO and co-founder of Fibbler, to talk about a gap in the market around LinkedIn advertising: what happens when “people don't click on ads,” and “we continue to… measure them for clicks.”ㅤAdam Holmgren explains a “very simple” approach: connect LinkedIn ads data with CRM data so you can “showcase what happens even if people don't click on a freaking ad,” and surface “the actual companies and the deals that you are influencing.” The conversation stays “super tactical” on how teams use impressions, engagements, and clicks to build reporting in HubSpot or Salesforce, support account scoring, and trigger workflows for BDRs: “These companies have engaged with us a lot in the last week… maybe we should give a task for BDRs.”ㅤ

If you tried to demo every marketing tool available today for one hour each, it would take you 7.7 years to get through them all. Yet when companies decide to launch an Account-Based Marketing (ABM) program, the first step is almost always to buy a new platform.In this episode, Mason Cosby shares a repurposed session from a recent webinar with the Wish Group. He argues that most organizations already have 75% of what they need to launch a successful ABM program without spending a dime on new tech. Instead of chasing the perfect tool stack, Mason breaks down how to audit your current marketing activities and align them into a cohesive strategy using the Account Progression Model.He explains why the "alphabet soup" of acronyms (ABM, ABX, ABS) distracts from the core goal: driving revenue from your best-fit customers. Mason also walks through his signature 4D Framework—Data, Distribution, Destination, and Direction—to turn random marketing efforts into a repeatable, measurable system.ㅤKey TakeawaysThe "Alphabet Soup" doesn't matter: whether you call it ABM, ABX, or AB-GTM, the goal is the same: align the revenue team around a shared set of target accounts that mirror your best, most profitable customers.Tools don't fix strategy: With over 15,900 tools on the market, it is easy to get lost in technology. Successful programs start with a strategy, not a software purchase.The 75% rule: Most companies already have the components for ABM (content, email, events, CRM). The failure lies in orchestration, not a lack of resources.Define "Best" correctly: Your target accounts shouldn't be limited to "big companies." They should be profitable, happy, sticky (high retention), and likely to refer others.The "Ninja Move" for orchestration: The success metric (Direction) of one stage should serve as the Trigger (Data) for the next stage. This bridges the gap between simple awareness and meaningful engagement.ㅤThe "Scrappy" Playbook1. Adopt the Account Progression Model (APM)Stop thinking in binary terms (Lead vs. Customer). Map your accounts through these specific stages:Awareness: Do they know we exist?Initial Engagement: Are they interacting with problem-aware content?Meaningful Engagement: Are they spending significant time with solution-aware content (e.g., a 7-hour workshop or deep-dive webinar)?MQA (Converting Touch): Have they visited high-intent pages (pricing, demo)?SQA to Opportunity: Sales qualification based on timing and budget.2. Audit with the 4D FrameworkTake every marketing tactic you currently run and define these four elements for it:Data: Who are we targeting, and what is the trigger? (e.g., "Target accounts" + "Visited

Hello and welcome to Scrappy ABM—this is your host, Mason Cosby—and today Mason is joined by Trina Schaetz from Project Insight. Brand reach, brand recognition, and “getting something that differentiated us from other software tools” show up fast, along with a show name that makes it hard to say no: Wear Your Cape to Work.ㅤTrina shares why project and program managers are “the superheroes of their organizations,” how real-life conversations at a large organizational conference turned into podcast invitations, and how a prep call helps guests feel comfortable—without giving away the best answers. The conversation also hits “thought leadership and brand awareness,” a “long play,” and the shift where “cold calling now becomes warm calling,” plus a clear warning: “episode one needs to be pretty fantastic.”ㅤ

Host Mason Cosby from Scrappy ABM walks through how account-based podcasting can drive real revenue instead of chasing downloads or trying to become the next Joe Rogan. Alongside Joseph Lewin, head of podcast strategy at Scrappy ABM, they share how a focused, guest-first show generated millions in sourced pipeline, closed revenue, speaking engagements, and long-term relationships.ㅤThey break down why most agencies are stuck as commoditized vendors, why “information without implementation is useless,” and how an account-based podcast becomes branding, content creation, market research, and pipeline generation all at once. You'll hear the 30-day launch approach, the three podcast types (content engine, account-based podcast, public figure podcast), and the exact guest follow-up process that helped close deals, including a $170,000 opportunity in 30 days, and consistently generate opportunities from 9% of podcast guests.ㅤWhat We CoverWhy are so many agencies commoditized and stuck in a race to the bottom on pricing, referrals without a system, and outbound efforts that are largely ignored?How account-based podcasting helps move from “commodity vendor” to strategic partner by having deep, meaningful conversations with best-fit customers, partners, and industry influencers.The real numbers behind the strategy: 300+ episodes recorded, tens of thousands of followers, 50 speaking engagements, 8 million in sourced pipeline from podcast guests, 3.5 million in closed revenue, and 2 million closed in the last two years for Scrappy ABM.The three podcast types—content engine, account-based podcast, and public figure podcast—and how goals shift from content and reach to meetings, pipeline, and raving fans.Why unclear goals, inconsistent publishing, and poor promotional strategy cause most podcasts to fail—and how simple structure and consistency beat “secret hidden magic.”The 30-day launch framework: setting goals and ICP; naming the show; live-first episodes on pain points, unique value, and sales FAQs; and building a guest and topic shortlist.Practical outreach and booking tactics using short LinkedIn or email messages, LinkedIn Sales Navigator, and email tools to book guests in “legacy” industries like B2B distribution and local government.A simple tech stack for recording, editing, and hosting using tools like Streamyard, Riverside, Descript, Zencastr, Captivate, Canva, LinkedIn newsletters, ChatGPT, and Gemini 3 Pro.Promotion that doesn't burn you out: episode graphics, trailer, basic launch, repurposed clips, grassroots promotion at industry events like Inbound, and paid support via LinkedIn thought leadership ads and Mal Pod.Exactly how Mason Cosby turns guests...

“There is no one answer. You have to start small and test, test, test.” On Scrappy ABM, Mason Cosby sits down with Raymon David to talk about what it looks like to build ABM inside “very large, primarily B2C manufacturing” brands—running B2B ABM while educating internally on how even to build ABM.ㅤThe conversation keeps coming back to the same mantra: accounts versus people—because “leads don't convert… companies convert.” Raymon walks through signals from trade shows, form fields, social media, and “in-market” research, alongside “named account lists” driven by a sales perspective (sometimes “more anecdotal… more emotion”). From there: tiering (“tier one, tier two, tier three”), budget realities, long sales cycles, brand and logo awareness, and what success looks like beyond “the number of meetings.”ㅤ

On Scrappy ABM, Mason Cosby shares a “so simple and it seems so impactful” playbook with Jeni Bishop from Cordial: literally celebrating your customers by submitting customers and prospects for awards. It started with customers and “innovation awards,” then moved to prospects through an event award program—because “it's an incredible touch point.” The nomination email creates a joyous moment: “Congratulations, you've been nominated,” followed by a chance to reach out, congratulate them, and “send them a gift… a direct mail… a bottle of champagne… or a card.” The results show up as touchpoints, “brand affinity,” “brand advocates,” and “brand exposure”—while the advice remains clear: start small, keep a calendar, and prioritize “quality over quantity.”ㅤ

“No surprises” is the way teams need to operate—because alignment is tough when teams have different incentives, objectives, and motivations. On Scrappy ABM, Mason Cosby is joined by Rebecca (Bogler) Grimes, the CRO of SheerID, to talk through tips, tricks, and pieces of advice for creating the same experience from inbound to the selling cycle, implementation handoff, and into retention and growth strategies that straddle teams.ㅤThe conversation keeps coming back to being intentional: documenting conversations, preparing well before meetings, doing research, and making conversations forward-looking and specific to an individual account. Rebecca also shares how tools, AI features, and synced systems support a “catalog” of what's been discussed—so nobody has to say “catch me up.” From OKRs and scorecards to collaboration and compensation, the thread is simple: revenue is owned by everybody.ㅤ

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!In this episode of OpsCast, hosted by Michael Hartmann and powered by MarketingOps.com, Michael is joined by co-host Mike Rizzo for a candid conversation about why most Account-Based Marketing programs fail and how teams can fix them.Their guest is Mason Cosby, Founder and CEO of Scrappy ABM, a leading voice challenging conventional ABM thinking. Mason shares why roughly 80 percent of ABM programs launched in recent years have not delivered results, why most companies already have what they need to succeed, and how to build a scalable ABM program without buying new technology.The discussion cuts through hype to focus on fundamentals, targeting discipline, organizational alignment, and realistic execution. Mason breaks down his practical framework for identifying best customers, avoiding common ABM pitfalls, and rebuilding programs that are stuck in the messy middle.In this episode, you will learn:Why most ABM programs fail before they ever have a chance to workWhat the 70 to 75 percent of existing tools and data most companies already have actually looks likeHow to identify the best customers using simple, objective criteriaWhere ABM programs break down when alignment is missingHow to measure ABM success without overcomplicating the modelWhat role does AI really play in modern ABM effortsThis episode is ideal for Marketing Ops, RevOps, demand generation, and GTM leaders who want a practical, realistic approach to ABM that works at any stage without unnecessary complexity.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations ProfessionalsSupport the show

On Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby sits down with Payton Christopher, head of demand generation and growth marketing at Delivery Solutions, to walk through a practical ABM program built around enterprise retailers, events, and paid social.ㅤPayton starts with a simple problem: if you ask different departments for the ICP, you get different answers. He explains how the team pulled CRM data, account trends, and real conversations from sales, customer service, and product to define the right enterprise accounts, locations, and revenue bands — plus the decision makers and frontline influencers who actually move deals forward.ㅤFrom there, Mason and Payton unpack how events shifted into a primary conversion channel, how LinkedIn paid social and case-study content provide consistent product education, and why pipeline velocity and close-won revenue from inbound demo requests sit at the center of their measurement. They close by talking about C-suite pushback, static ads that did not work, self-guided demo GIFs that helped, and why relationships across teams decide whether an ABM program survives.ㅤ

Account-based marketing teams want every interaction to build trust, not erode it. On Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby sits down with Jeni Bishop to focus on brand and design within ABM programs, rather than just talking about awareness. Jeni shares why every interaction is a touchpoint that either builds trust over time or breaks it when you show up differently each time.ㅤTogether, they walk through how to keep ads, content, emails, SDR outreach, and sales outreach consistent so a prospect doesn't feel like they landed in the wrong place. Jeni explains her “take the logo off” test, why your company has to be the wrapper, and how overusing a target account's colors, fonts, and logo can confuse people and erode brand trust. They also get into one-to-one versus one-to-few versus one-to-many ABM, how language from ICP research shapes messaging, and why branded solution terms come after problem language in the journey on Scrappy ABM.ㅤ

Targeting is the number one factor killing your ad program. Mason Cosby walks through what most LinkedIn ad experts miss —and why audience expansion and third-party network expansion are just setting money on fire—two ways people are specifically setting cash on fire on LinkedIn: industry-based Targeting and title-based Targeting LinkedIn industry targeting is super confusing, it isn't nearly specific enough, and can put extraordinarily similar companies in different industries—so you end up hitting tons of companies that are not even remotely the people you want to be going after.ㅤTitle-based targeting lumps together multiple titles that are kinda close, so you spend a ton of money on people who will never buy from you.ㅤThe alternative is list-based advertising: identify the specific companies and individuals you want to target, and upload the list. Match rates come from personal email addresses, LinkedIn URLs, or LinkedIn-provided data from a LinkedIn event registration form—plus a quarterly list refresh to account for job changes.ㅤ

Scrappy ABM brings together host Mason Cosby and Yann Sarfati, CEO and Co-founder of Userled, to talk about ABM, AI, field marketing, and events that actually bring the bank. The conversation starts with the problem statement: ABM is a strong buzzword, but finding the accounts you really want to go after is actually the hardest thing. Many teams say they have a narrow ICP and still end up with a list of 10,000 accounts.ㅤYann shares how Userled spent almost six months building a list of 1,000 accounts with clear commonality, strong conviction, and ethical belief that life will be better for those accounts. Mason highlights the mental headache and wasted 10 to 20 hours per bad deal when the ICP is wrong. Together they walk through NRR in MarTech, repeatable GTM motion, small events where the persona actually shows up, personalized event invites, and doing things that do not scale to win enterprise deals and keep customers for the long term.ㅤ

Scrappy ABM brings together host Mason Cosby and Erika White Crutchlow from Resolver to walk through an event-focused ABM program that runs on tight alignment with customer success and sales, bold booth visuals, and simple giveaways like branded socks. Mason and Erika revisit a conversation that started at B2BMX in October and trace how a heavy event season turned into a structured approach to account selection, pre-event outreach, and on-site execution.ㅤErika explains how Resolver builds event-based target account lists, crawls LinkedIn, and uses historical lists to reach high-value customers and prospects before anyone steps on the trade show floor. She shares how tailored email, LinkedIn, and phone outreach, SDR calls two weeks before the show, and “after-hours” breakfasts, activities, and dinners with customers and prospects create real relationships, qualified accounts, and long-term brand awareness that show up in Salesforce long after the event ends.ㅤ

B2B marketing that makes you want to ram your head through a wall usually has the same pattern: the wrong people in the funnel, a light calendar, and an empty pipeline. On Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby calls out six specific reasons most B2B marketing programs are failing and walks through exactly how to fix them.ㅤInstead of chasing hundreds of thousands of leads and celebrating opt-ins, Mason pushes marketers to focus on targeting a very specific list of best fit customers—people who are super happy, highly profitable, send more friends, and stay for a long time. He shows how to speak the language of leadership by tying every program to named company objectives and real pipeline, and how to get sales to buy in by actually delivering the companies everyone agreed to go after.ㅤFrom lack of resources and unclear measurement to broken execution after the company all hands and strategy meeting, Mason lays out a simple way forward: eliminate what is not working, stick to a plan for three to six months, and use account-based marketing to go get the customers you really want.ㅤ

Today, Mason Cosby, Founder of Scrappy ABM, explains how a strategy-first approach powers account-based programs, why technology should support rather than replace human judgment and how marketers can translate signals into revenue outcomes. Mason reflects on changing B2B buying behavior, the tension between automation and personalization and the importance of clear messaging in crowded markets. He also shows how scrappy teams use lightweight tools and focused playbooks to build engagement, accelerate pipeline and prove marketing impact.Key Takeaways:00:00 Introduction.01:45 Hands-on experimentation can reveal a unique niche and lead to new opportunities.04:54 Strong foundations in people, process and systems enable scalable programs.08:04 Over-reliance on automation and poor targeting can weaken marketing relationships.09:50 Human judgment and tailored communication keep outreach relevant and respectful.13:57 Revenue and pipeline remain the core metrics, even when long B2B sales cycles require patience.15:42 Consistent communication and engagement are key leading indicators for the future pipeline.20:53 Visibility and impressions support long-term brand-building efforts.29:30 Clear messaging reduces confusion and strengthens market positioning.Resources Mentioned:Mason Cosbyhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/masoncosby/Scrappy ABM | LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/scrappy-abm/Scrappy ABMhttps://scrappyabm.com/Warmly AIhttps://www.warmly.ai/Apollohttps://www.apollo.io/Propensityhttps://www.propensity.com/HubSpot Starterhttps://www.hubspot.com/pricing/suite/starter?currencyCode=USD&term=annualListen Networkhttps://listennetwork.co/Insightful Links:https://www.tadigital.com/insights/perspectives/how-marketers-can-leverage-marketing-automation-account-based-marketinghttps://researchnxt.com/martech/leveraging-technology-in-account-based-marketing/https://hub.uberflip.com/uberflip-blog-posts/leverage-tech-to-scale-abm-improve-your-abm-strategy-to-deliver-connected-experiencesThanks for listening to the “Marketing Leadership” podcast, brought to you by Listen Network. If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation. We appreciate the enthusiasm and support from our community. Currently, we are not accepting new guest interview requests as we focus on our existing lineup. We will announce when we reopen for new submissions. In the meantime, feel free to explore our past episodes and stay tuned for updates on future opportunities.#PodcastMarketing #PerformanceMarketing #BrandMarketing

Subject matter experts are often scientists, coders, founders, or salespeople who never planned to live on camera or spend their days writing, yet the revenue team still needs their stories. On Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby and Phil Pilalas, content strategist at Scrappy ABM, get practical about how to create content with people who don't think of themselves as “content people.”ㅤPhil walks through how to get buy-in by generating passion and giving confidence, starting from an environment that already feels natural to the founder or SME. They talk about simple ways to record real conversations, give SMEs a strong hand in review, and place each piece of content at the right point in the progression model. From faces associated with brands to “something is better than nothing,” this conversation shows how 30 minutes a week or an hour a month can turn SME time into subject matter expert content that actually moves accounts forward.ㅤ

Scrappy ABM brings together host Mason Cosby and Yadin Porter de León, Director of Customer Stories and thought leadership over at Heroku, which is a part of Salesforce, to talk about going straight to the top of your target accounts without getting blacklisted.ㅤInstead of getting stuck in email blasts and third-party events that promise “rubbing elbows” with executives, Yadin shares a high-level framework that starts small with relationships your own C-suite already has, then builds proof points through web stories, webinars, podcasts, and thought leadership videos. The conversation walks through going top down from your CEO and bottoms up from directors and senior managers, doing the hard “eat your vegetables” work of segmentation, and mapping LinkedIn so you make it easy for leaders to say yes.ㅤThrough stories from Angel Med Flight, JetBlue, GE Healthcare, NASA Jet Propulsion Labs, Wells Fargo, Michael Dell, and a seven-figure deal, Mason and Yadin show how time and trust, podcasts, and truly helping individuals with their own goals can turn a focused ABM program into a powerful path to the C-suite.ㅤ

Scrappy targeting, small segments, and extreme empathy for the audience sit at the center of this conversation on Scrappy ABM. Host Mason Cosby sits down with Tyler Lessard, CMO at Technology Advice, to move from a broad “B2B marketing leaders or demand gen leaders” ICP to focused clusters of accounts where the team can win day after day.ㅤTyler walks through breaking a market into specific industry subsegments like cybersecurity software vendors and HR tech vendors, backing those choices with win rates, average deal size, and field-level sales feedback. The discussion follows how in-person activations at industry conferences, niche newsletters, and original buyer insights research become “reasons to reach out” for sales and SDR teams. Along the way, Mason and Tyler highlight small, specific ABM programs with one rep and a handful of target accounts, measuring success by whether the right people at the right accounts show up, engage, ask questions, and move into real conversations.ㅤ

Scrappy ABM brings practical playbooks that don't break the bank to B2B teams who want more pipeline and revenue without wasting time and budget. In this conversation, host Mason Cosby sits down with Briana Manrique, head of marketing at Bench Prep, to walk through how a very small marketing team went from casting a wide net to getting more niche and seeing more impact.ㅤBriana shares how seven years at Bench Prep created space to take a hard, long look at who they serve and where they find success. The team moved away from trying to work with training companies and enterprise software companies and chose to go all in on nonprofit associations and credentialing organizations that serve professional learners with high-stakes learning and exam preparation.ㅤFrom doing completely away with paid ads to doubling down on webinars and conferences, Briana explains how channel mix, content, ABM, and brand awareness all had to shift. She talks about the mindset shift from quantity to quality, the slow burn of long sales cycles, the time it really takes to run one-to-one ABM, and why every piece of content now needs a defined objective, audience, and CTA.ㅤ

Scrappy ABM brings together host Mason Cosby and Jess Martin, head of demand gen and former head of marketing at Metaphor Data, a new data catalog on the block. At a tiny seed round company trying to punch above its weight, ABM was not a nice-to-have; it was the go-to-market strategy to secure specific logos and move on to the next level.ㅤJess walks through how she built a really lean but scrappy program focused on hyper-targeted accounts from a reverse-engineered ICP, account prioritization, and a tightly validated target account list. The conversation covers personalized outreach, founder-led thought-leadership ads, tiny virtual events, cold calling, surveys, and a buying-committee-first approach. Mason and Jess highlight account penetration, alternative lists, and the idea that less is more, especially at an early stage. They close with “scrappy does not necessarily mean cheap,” testing, and using founder branding as a powerful part of ABM.ㅤ

Continuing our Account Based Prospecting expert series, in this episode, Samis joined by Mason Cosby, founder and CEO of Scrappy ABM, to discuss the intricacies of account-based marketing (ABM) and its application in recruitment.Throughout the conversation, they cover a lot of ground:From exploriing the importance of niching down, to identifying the right audience, and some of the challenges organizations face when implementing ABM strategies. Mason shares tactical steps for building an effective ABM program, emphasizing his 4D approach. We're not being cheeky when we say these are assets and advice you'd typically have to pay someone to give you — so listen, take notes, and be well on your way to improving your marketing and prospecting efforts...just. like. that. Chapters:00:00 - Why ABM is the ultimate growth tool for modern recruiters06:12 - Beyond spray and pray: Evaluating your recruitment lead generation09:05 - Is your recruiting agency ready for account-based marketing?16:10 - How to build your ABM strategy for client acquisition35;01 - How to find and leverage data to build your ideal client profile41:50 - From data to deal: Activating your ABM client prospecting54:05 - Beyond placements: Calculating the ROI of your ABM strategyExplore all our episodes and catch the full video experience at loxo.co/podcastBecoming a Hiring Machine is brought to you by Loxo. To discover more about us, just visit loxo.co

Struggling with misalignment between your marketing and sales teams? You're not alone. Many organizations face friction when these critical teams operate in silos—leading to missed opportunities, wasted resources, and slower growth.In this webinar, we uncovered actionable strategies to bridge the gap between marketing and sales, ensuring seamless collaboration and revenue growth.

In this weeks' Scale Your Sales Podcast episode, my guest is Mason Cosby.   Serving as the marketing leader at numerous boutique and bootstrapped businesses, Mason saw firsthand the power of trading a shiny ABM program with all the fancy tech tools for a scrappy account-based program that instead sourced over $15M in the past 3 years, driving a 20x ROI. Now, he leads a team of fellow Scrappy ABM experts who specialize in low-budget plays and programs that drive high impact.   In today's episode of Scale Your Sales podcast, we explore what truly drives success in Account-Based Marketing (ABM). Mason Cosby shares why identifying potential points of failure is the smartest way to set your ABM program up for success. We discuss the importance of sales and marketing alignment, examine common sources of tension, and highlight where real breakthroughs happen. Mason also offers practical, proven ABM tactics you can implement immediately—no big budgets or complex tech stacks required.   Welcome to Scale Your Sales Podcast, Mason Cosby.     Timestamps: 00:00 Successful ABM Strategies with Mason Cosby 06:00 Balancing Strategy and Inclusivity 07:04 Optimizing ABM for High-Value Clients 11:11 Refining Dynamic Target Account Lists 14:48 Sales vs Marketing Communication Channels 19:18 Misaligned Incentives Fuel Sales-Marketing Conflict 20:42 Aligning Marketing with Revenue Goals 26:24 Leveraging Email Bounces for Reengagement 28:08 Relationship Mapping Insights     https://www.linkedin.com/in/masoncosby/     Janice B Gordon is the award-winning Customer Growth Expert and Scale Your Sales Framework founder. She is by LinkedIn Sales 15 Innovating Sales Influencers to Follow 2021, the Top 50 Global Thought Leaders and Influencers on Customer Experience Nov 2020 and 150 Women B2B Thought Leaders You Should Follow in 2021. Janice helps companies worldwide to reimagine revenue growth thought customer experience and sales.   Book Janice to speak virtually at your next event: https://janicebgordon.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/janice-b-gordon/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/JaniceBGordon Scale Your Sales Podcast: https://scaleyoursales.co.uk/podcast More on the blog: https://scaleyoursales.co.uk/blog Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/janicebgordon Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ScaleYourSales And more!   Visit our podcast website https://scaleyoursales.co.uk/podcast/ to watch or listen.

Send us a textIn this episode we interview Mason Cosby, founder of Scrappy ABM and host of the Scrappy ABM podcast. Mason brings years of experience and over 300 podcast episodes focused on Account-Based Marketing (ABM) to this energetic and insight-packed conversation.What you'll learn in this episode:Why 50% of ABM messaging should be universal—and the other 50% deeply personalizedThe real role of content in a high-performing ABM programHow to define buyer journey stages using tangible behaviors and real engagement signalsThe “4D Framework” for aligning sales and marketing: Data, Distribution, Destination, DirectionHow to enable sales with smart content, contextual messaging, and battle-tested templatesWhat first-party engagement can tell you that third-party intent data never willWhy “awareness” isn't a feeling—it's a trackable milestoneHow to revive deals stuck in limbo with a meaningful re-engagement strategy

“Don't ask for the meeting. People aren't dumb. Your job is to help them do theirs better,” says Mason Cosby, CEO and co-founder of Scrappy ABMIn this episode of The Content Cocktail Hour, Jonathan Gandolf sits down with Mason Cosby, CEO and co-founder of Scrappy ABM, to break down what account-based marketing really looks like without six-figure software. Mason shares how his team generated $3M in revenue in 18 months using little more than a podcast and LinkedIn—and why most companies get ABM wrong by focusing on tools instead of strategy. He also outlines the criteria for who should and shouldn't be running ABM, and how aligning with finance, sales, and customer success is the real game-changer.In this episode, you'll learn:Why tooling isn't what makes or breaks your ABM program—and what actually doesHow to build a content-led ABM engine using what you already haveThe critical signals that mean your company is (or isn't) ready for ABMResources:Connect with Jonathan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-gandolf/Explore AudiencePlus: https://audienceplus.comConnect with Mason on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/masoncosby/ Explore Scrappy ABM: https://scrappyabm.com Timestamps:(00:00) Intro(01:20) Marketing insights(01:49) The essence of Scrappy ABM(04:01) Building effective ABM programs(16:28) The role of content in ABM programs(16:56) Starting with what you have(19:23) Mapping content to buyer journeys(26:43) Don't ask for the meeting

In this festive episode of Stop the Scroll, host Brianna Doe teams up with Mason Cosby, host of the Scrappy ABM podcast, for a special Christmas collaboration. They explore the intersection of account-based marketing (ABM) and influencer marketing in the B2B space, sharing strategies, insights, and examples of holiday campaigns.=========================================Best Moments:(01:05) Example of Super's influencer marketing campaign with custom Christmas sweaters(02:19) Aligning influencer audiences with brand goals(03:55) Importance of understanding brand goals before selecting influencers(05:52) Transitioning from transactional to long-term influencer partnerships(09:41) Methods for finding influencers that address target audiences(13:07) Discussion on the ethics and effectiveness of using influencers' accounts for outreach(15:27) Importance of maintaining authenticity in influencer content(19:27) Ideal placement of influencers in ABM programs(21:22) Comparing ROI of influencer marketing to performance marketing(23:00) Integration of paid advertising and influencer marketing=========================================Guest Bio:Mason Cosby is the host of the Scrappy ABM podcast and an expert in account-based marketing. He shares insights on integrating influencer marketing with ABM strategies and discusses the challenges and opportunities in B2B influencer partnerships. Mason brings a unique perspective on aligning influencer audiences with target accounts and measuring the success of influencer campaigns in the B2B space.=========================================The Secrets to Thriving Creator-Brand PartnershipsIf you aren't asking actual creators what they value when it comes to things like compensation, communication preferences, and other factors that lead to long-term relationships with creators, you need to start immediately.Thanks to impact.com (who sponsors this podcast), you can get this feedback for free from The Secrets to Thriving Creator-Brand Partnerships, a research report they created with the help of Adweek.To download the full report, go to http://impact.com/lp/bri to figure out how you can better collaborate and partner with creators you're working with!

In this episode, Dave Gerhardt sits down with Mason Cosby, a leader in account-based marketing (ABM) strategy and founder of Scrappy ABM. Dave and Mason unpack how to simplify ABM, create meaningful engagement, and build personalized campaigns that drive real business results.Dave and Mason cover:Why companies should crawl before they walk or run” with ABM by starting with re-engagement programs instead of complex tech stacks.Why you need to track key signals of engagement and align marketing efforts to warm up prospects before sales outreach.Why you should be treating sales as an integrated marketing channel.Timestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Mason (05:48) - - Should you be using ABM? (08:44) - - Breaking down the process — awareness to acquisition (12:02) - - Why you should be treating sales as a marketing channel (16:47) - - Insights and data you need for effective ABM (20:07) - - Distribution strategies (24:10) - - When to adjust your outreach strategy (25:52) - - Awareness, engagement, and high-intent follow-up strategies (30:09) - - Re-engagement vs awareness for ABM (33:10) - - Why your story and positioning drive marketing success (34:25) - - Mason's framework for ABM programming (38:07) - - Learn before scaling ideas (crawl, walk, run) Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***This episode of the Exit Five podcast is brought to you by our friends at Calendly. You've probably heard of Calendly. And you probably have used it to schedule meetings with people outside your company.But did you know you can also use Calendly on your website to increase conversion and create a better hand off experience with sales? Speed to lead is everything and that's why B2B marketing teams today use Calendly to convert leads the moment they're ready to talk to sales. Instead of doing the whole follow-up late dance, you can book meetings right within the forms on your website. And Calendly has the routing and integrations you need to make sure your prospects get booked with the right sales rep.Smith.ai increased their website bookings by 26% using Calendly. And Katalon, the all-in-one test automation platform, was able to increase their conversion rate 3X using Calendly.Join over 20 million users who count on Calendly to simplify meetings, save time and drive revenue revenue by removing the friction from your website. Visit calendly.com/exitfive to get started with a 14-day free trial.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more