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JLI Podcast #57 - BREAKDOWNS: Justice League America #57 & Justice League Europe #33

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 17, 2023 145:14

BREAKDOWNS continues! DC Dave joins The Irredeemable Shag to chat about Justice League America #57! Maxwell Lord is back! But what does this mean for the League... and the Extremists?!?! Then Noah Tarnow stops by to discuss Justice League Europe #33! Despero destroys the JLA Embassy, then battles Lobo on the streets of Times Square! Finally, we wrap up with YOUR listener feedback! Have a question or comment? Looking for more great content? Leave comments on our JLI PODCAST website: http://fireandwaterpodcast.com/podcast/jli57 Images from this episode: http://fireandwaterpodcast.com/podcast/jli-57-gallery E-MAIL: jlipodcast@gmail.com Follow DC Dave: Fire & Water Podcast Network appearances: : http://fireandwaterpodcast.com/tag/dc-dave/ Follow Noah Tarnow: Big Quiz Thing website: https://bigquizthing.com/ Instagram: @thenoahtarnow This episode brought to you by InStockTrades: http://instocktrades.com Follow the JLI Podcast: Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/justice-league-international/id1082000325 Subscribe via other podcatchers: http://feeds.feedburner.com/jlipodcast Also available on Spotify, Amazon Music, Audible and Google Podcasts Follow JLI Podcast on TWITTER: https://twitter.com/JLIpodcast Like the JLI Podcast FACEBOOK page: https://www.facebook.com/JLIpodcast This podcast is a proud member of the FIRE AND WATER PODCAST NETWORK: Visit the Fire & Water WEBSITE: http://fireandwaterpodcast.com Follow Fire & Water on TWITTER: @FWPodcasts Follow Fire & Water on BLUESKY: @fwpodcasts.bsky.social Like our Fire & Water FACEBOOK page: https://www.facebook.com/FWPodcastNetwork Support The Fire & Water Podcast Network on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/fwpodcasts This has been the JLI Podcast! Wanna make somethin' of it?

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JLI Podcast #57 - BREAKDOWNS: Justice League America #57 & Justice League Europe #33

Dynamic Duel: DC vs Marvel

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 17, 2023 145:14

Episode 137 – Unstoppable Software Engineer with Joseph Stephen

Unstoppable Mindset

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 20, 2023 68:58

Joseph Stephen is indeed a software engineer. However, he is much more which is why I say he is unstoppable. Joseph also not only happens to be blind, but he operates a farm in Northern Tasmania. He has been married for 27 years and has nine children. More importantly, he is successful at all these activities. Among his software jobs, he has been a force in coding for the leading screen reading program for blind and low vision people. He also spends time creating and editing music which is where I first encountered him. I must admit I wonder when he sleeps although he says he does get enough rest every night. Joseph is an extremely interesting person and has some really fascinating and interesting stories to tell. I hope you find him as unstoppable as I do. About the Guest: Joseph Stephen is a totally blind software engineer. He has been married for 27 years and has 9 children. He lives on a farm in northern Tasmania. He was the first totally blind student in Adelaide, South Australia to complete higher math and physics in Braille at matriculation level, and university and was the first totally blind student in South Australia to complete a computer science degree. Joseph's career started as a programmer in Malaysia where he helped a company implement solutions to manage oil plantations for the government. He then worked as an assistive technology specialist at the Royal Society for the Blind of South Australia. For the past 27 years (24 full time and 3 part-time,) he has worked as a software developer for Henter-Joyce/Freedom Scientific/Vispero, where he has been one of the main designers and implementers of many of the screen reader features that blind people have come to depend upon. Joseph has also spoken extensively at churches, camps, and conferences. His hobbies include music production, writing, woodwork, walking, and amateur radio Ways to connect with Stephen: Website: www.faithfulgenerations.com Band Camp: https://twoservants.bandcamp.com About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog. Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards. https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/ accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/ Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below! Subscribe to the podcast If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can also subscribe in your favorite podcast app. Leave us an Apple Podcasts review Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts. Transcription Notes Michael Hingson 00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us. Michael Hingson 01:20 And hi, once again, guess what in case you didn't guess it is time for another episode of unstoppable mindset. And today we get to talk to Joseph Stephen from Australia. He is a long way timewise from us here in Southern California as well as distance wise, Joseph and I met because we both use an audio editing program called Reaper. And we're on a list together called Her It Comes Reaper Without Peepers. Guess what that means? Of course, it's all about blind people using the program and Reaper is an incredibly good program from an access standpoint, because some people have devoted a lot of time to making it. And ancillary scripts that go with it very usable by blind people who otherwise couldn't use the program and the sophistication that it brings. Anyway, Joseph and I met on that and we've been chatting someone I finally prevailed on him to come on unstoppable mindset. So Joseph, welcome to unstoppable mindset. Joseph Stephen 02:25 Thank you. It's really great to be here. And yes, it's it's funny, actually, we heard about you a long time ago because some old gentleman who came to our house church once the he gave my son's a book called Thunder dog. And they read it and then they read it to me. And I thought, oh, yeah, that sounds fantastic. And it was, you know, it's quite, quite inspiring. And I love this Reaper without peepers list and this name comes up, you know, Michael Hinkson. I said, I'm sure that name sounds familiar. I reckon. I reckon that's the author of that book. So I checked with the boys. And then I contacted Michael and I had to get the boys to say g'day to him. And you know, and yeah, here we are. Yeah, there we are. And now we've got to get me to Australia. We got a workout some speaking things some time to get us down there now that travel is opened again. Michael Hingson 03:19 Oh, yes. Yeah, that's another story. Well, why don't we start by you telling us a little about you growing up and what a younger Joseph was like, and all that sort of stuff. And we'll go from there. Well, interestingly, I was born Joseph Stephen 03:35 with about 2% vision with the same condition that you were, but it was never explained to me that retinal inter fiber pleasure was the same thing as prematurity of written retinopathy of prematurity that no one ever explained that to me. They just said my retinas didn't form properly. And I was born with cerebral palsy, and brain damage, as the doctor explained to my mom, and and my doctor said to my mom, that I would never live a normal life. Does that sound familiar? Yeah. And of course, no one defines normal either, but anyway, well, this is true. But But yeah, I hear you. I had parents, I guess similar to yours. They, they were risk takers. They didn't treat me any different at all. But it took a long time for them to even get a response out of me because I did have the brain damage. And it was probably I don't know, when I was two and a half or three when Mum sort of started making any progress with me. I mean, I wouldn't even I couldn't even sit up. I couldn't do anything. But if you knew me now, you would just have no idea that that's where I started. So now I'm married. I've been married for 27 years. Last week with our 27th anniversary. We've had 10 Children nine living one with the Lord. I'm a software engineer who's worked for freedom, scientific Despero and enjoys going back. We're close on 27 years. I do radio firmware for amateur radio to make radios accessible, I do music production. I do original music drummer singer keyboard. I've written about six books. I can use all power tools, you know, circular sore, I live on a farm 200 acres. So you know, I do fencing and repairs of goat sheds. And yesterday we were out plucking, plucking geese. I did three geese yesterday. And so like you there's there's not much that is stopped me. And I never think about those things. Although i i One thing I'd have to probably disagree with you with within that is? Well, blindness isn't the issue. Sometimes we don't understand how our blindness affects others. And I think that's that's particularly been true with me having known nine children, that has been quite a difficulty. So, you know, when when, when you're by yourself, and you're living your life as a blind person, really nothing needs to stop you. But there are things that that happen in life and that are quite difficult as a blind person, where attitude alone isn't going to solve the problem. But you know, having said that, I've still accomplished a lot more than a lot of sighted people have. I also was the first totally blind person to do a maths and science degree, in fact, the first totally blind student in South Australia to do matriculation maths and physics, and then the computer science degree at Flinders University. In 1987, I rode to Canberra to raise money for the bike Bible Society for bike for Bibles, that was a distance of 1486 kilometers. So there's, there's a lot that I've been able to accomplish in life. And not that I've ever thought about it, I don't kind of think, well, what's my next accomplishment? I just do what comes in front of me to do. And we've got there's a proverb that says, whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might. And that's what I believed in. So that's, that's kind of been my ethos. So Michael Hingson 07:29 one, one question that that comes to mind in well, and going back to the discussion that you had about blindness can be difficult. And that is absolutely true. I don't disagree with that. What I would say, however, is that attitudes, or maybe it's better to put it a different way, a lack of education makes the difficulty a lot more of a barrier than it needs to be. And what a lot of us don't get to do don't want to do or don't know how to do is to, to allow the teaching part of us to come out so that when there are issues that arise, and we're different, because blindness isn't the only thing that can create difficulties. And anytime anyone is different. There are difficulties that inherently come from what people accept as the norm. And the sooner that we recognize that the norm is not what we think of it, the better chance we have of dealing with all the other challenges that we face. And that would be what I would would say about blindness is that blindness isn't the problem. It may be our approach. It may be the approach of other people. But the reality is that the problem comes because we don't learn how we societally don't learn how to deal with things that are different than we and that's where the real challenge comes from. Joseph Stephen 09:11 Yes, and I think actually, we've gone backwards a lot in our education system because I wrote an article a couple of years ago about the rise and fall of life skills of blind people, particularly the here in Australia, like, you know, we we've heard of, like 13 year olds who can't turn on the shower for themselves. And children who can't use scissors at school because they're, you know, they're dangerous. I mean, my goodness, if they knew what our school did in Adelaide back in, in the in the 70s and 80s. And where we went into the, you know, tech Studies Center and we used a bandsaw and, you know, Sandy Gascon would lay the drill and you know, as I said, I use a circular sore all the time and, you know, they I've still got on my 10 fingers. Yeah, but but These days there. And I think, I don't know whether you'd agree with me, but there is a place for specialized education. And there's a place for integration into into the sighted world. But there's a delicate balance between them. Because if you don't have the the special education where where teachers are challenging, and blind students can can key off of each other and compete and, and realize and be part of the well, let me put it another way, teachers still need to teach things in a way that that are optimized for a blind person, for instance, teaching tech studies is very different to a blind person than a sighted person. And if you don't have that education, obviously, you know, it's going, it's going to be difficult. So I loved what you said in your, your introductory speech about Braille, for instance, that, you know, well, you know, you teach you teach sighted people print, right? Well, why not teach blind people Braille. And it's the same with, with all such skills, you know, we we throw, I think, we've, we've thrived because I had the opportunity, you know, to learn to cook to learn to do wood work, to learn to do clay to learn to do leather work, to learn to do, you know, plastic, basically, everything, the only thing I didn't get to do was metal work, which was, which was a shame, because I do know, a blind guy that can world and I'd love to be able to do that. And my sons are learning that now. They're sort of 12 and 14. So maybe I'll maybe I'll take that up, too. But, you know, blindness in the in the context of education certainly isn't the the issue. You're right, it is, it is the attitude and the, the willingness of others to, to take risks. It is Michael Hingson 11:56 we, we do need to recognize, though, such as a society that there is nothing wrong with having good, knowledgeable, and this is the part that I think's most important, philosophically sound teachers that can deal with the blindness issues. The problem is that a lot of the teachers, so called experts in the field of work with the blind, themselves, aren't necessarily doing the best job and providing the best services, for example, Braille. Now in this country, according to the National Federation of the Blind, has a lid it has a literacy rate of under 10%. When I was growing up, the comment was, was around 50%. The difficulty is, the difficulty is that we we've done several things, we've got a lot of blind kids who are not totally blind, they're low vision, I won't say visually impaired, because I think that is a total disservice to everyone. But low vision. And teachers say, well, as long as you've got some eyesight, you should use that. nevermind the fact that with that eyesight, you may only be able to read a few words a minute, you've got to use high magnification devices, and so on. Whereas if you also learned braille, you would be able to read more, you would be able to read faster and probably more effective. But Joseph Stephen 13:30 I absolutely agree with that. Because, you know, I didn't I didn't learn braille till I was eight or nine. And the only reason I learned it was because the print in my textbooks was starting to get too small. And I think we should have learned it right from the beginning, like you said, because who knows when your sight, you know, whether your sight condition is going to be stable. And also, even whether the print? Well, it's a fact, as yougo on in your primary education, that print gets smaller in the books. Yeah. Michael Hingson 14:03 And, yeah, and the reality is that Braille is a true alternative, not a substitute for print. And now with technology, we can do a much better job even of creating graphics and so on, and providing graphical representations, you know, when you were growing up, you don't know how much access you had to good drawings and physics and so on. But it it is better now. Because there's more technology to help with that. And technology has made a great deal of difference in our access to information overall. But still, it isn't the technology that's the ultimate game changer that needs to happen. It's still full education. Joseph Stephen 14:52 And let me tell you a story about that. Yeah, I was spoiled at school because I had a an orientation and mobility too. He who was brilliant at mapmaking, he was absolutely brilliant about making, he knew he knew how much detail to put on. So that it was useful that it wasn't too much, and it wasn't too little. And when I moved to Tasmania in 2018, I asked for a map, a roadmap. And the binders agency told me that no one in the history of Tasmania had ever asked for a Braille map. And so they had to send away to get it made. And it was atrocious. The first one came back with just roads, so you had no town. So you referenced the towns from the roads, the next one came back with towns without roads. So you had no way of of mapping them together. And it was just I gave up after the third attempt, I gave up, because this the skill level of mapmaking was gone. And yeah, I did radio electronics. And it was a real frustration to get diagrams, because for some reason, sighted people don't know how to do tactile diagrams in such a way that either they're either they're too small, and you can't feel the detail, or they're too big, or they don't have enough detail. And like with road maps, you know, they use like, they do a map with a single intersection on it and think it was useful. Yeah, it's like, come on guys. It's a Michael Hingson 16:27 problem is that we are viewed as inferior and not as equals in society, who need to have the same access to information I had up of an interesting experience happened to me recently. And if, if you listened to enough of podcasts, from unstoppable mindset, you'll hear about my view that disability does not mean a lack of ability, and that everyone has a disability. People who can see have the disability of light dependents, and you don't do well when the lights go out. And you want proof. I want to contest to go to the Kelly and Ryan Oscar after party, which was at the Dolby Theater where the Oscars were held. The Monday morning right after the Oscars. Somebody entered my name I didn't even know they did. It was very nice to them. And when I got a call saying you're a winner, and I was at a winner of what and the person told me and when I, when I went back to the person who I figured had entered my name. She said, Yeah, I entered your name, I didn't think you stood a chance. Well, hello. Anyway, we go to the hotel, we arrived Saturday afternoon, bought 10 after three, go in, put up our luggage, it was me my niece and nephew. And we started walking downstairs and suddenly everybody started screaming around us. And I said to my niece, so what's going on? We lost power in the hotel. And in the surrounding area. She said she knew me. She wasn't worried. But everyone was screaming because suddenly they couldn't see because there was no light. And all of a sudden the little flashlight started going on. Don't tell me for one single second, that sighted people don't have a disability. It's just that technology has covered it up so much. It doesn't mean however, that the disability isn't there. And the sooner that we recognize that all of us have challenges of one sort or another and that we need to accept people where they are, the better off we'll be. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, I've I've got lots of stories like that too, even at home, you know, when the lights go out, but But you know, we can I I've been up fixing doors and putting doors back on, on their, you know, hinges and stuff on the 11 o'clock when all the lights are out and, you know, doing doing repairs. And, you know, one of my favorite stories is when I was in college, I think I was a junior and I was in my room. I had a single dorm room because I had enough Braille books that there was no room for anyone else to be in the room. And I was reading something studying away. And some people walked by outside my open window. And just for for just general sociability, I said, Hey, how are you guys doing out there? And they stopped and they went, we're fine. Who are you? And I said I Mike. Well, the lights are off. And I said, Yeah, what are you doing? I'm reading my physics book. And of course they couldn't get it. And I finally said it happens to be in Braille. But as you know, who cares about the lights right? Now I understand that I need to care about the lights for my sighted friends who are less fortunate than I Michael Hingson 19:49 but we all have challenges where we're less fortunate than others in some way. And you know, we all need to deal with that and you you have done it. Michael Hingson 19:59 No so many different things, I took woodshop, but my shop teacher would not let me work the bandsaw or the lathe, or any of those things, which I kind of regret, I do believe that I would have had no trouble learning to do them. But he was pretty restrictive in that way. So someone else had to cut out wood things for me that I've in. All I basically did was a lot of sanding, you know, but that was the way it was. So it was better than a lot of things that that could have happened. Mostly at the high school, the teachers were pretty good. And so I did pretty well in in high school overall. But that one shot thing, you know, that was just kind of the way it was. And so you do what you got to do. But I believe that, for me, I learned braille in kindergarten, but then I forgot it because I didn't get to use it for the first three years, we were out in California, so I had to relearn it. So I appreciate where you're coming from. But I did learn it again, and was able to keep up with it. And believe that Braille is absolutely something that any person who is totally blind, and any person who is otherwise partially blind should learn. And I like I love the National Federation of the Blind can definition of blindness, which is your blind. from a functional standpoint, if your eyesight has diminished to the point where you have to use alternatives to pure eyesight in order to function. And if you're at that point, you should learn blindness techniques, because the odds are, as you said earlier, you're going to lose the rest of that eyesight. But also philosophically, you get to use both blindness techniques and the eyesight that you have to be able to function. But if you learn to use them both, you're much better off. Joseph Stephen 21:54 It's interesting, because when I lost my sight, I didn't actually know that I completely lost it. What happened was, as I said, I was born with about 2%. And that doesn't sound like much but it was enough to walk around. It was enough to walk to the deli, the shop the I guess you guys call it a drugstore from my house. It's a couple of kilometers, maybe three or four kilometers without a cane. Yeah. So 2% is quite quite a lot. Even though it doesn't sound like much. But one day I was riding a bicycle behind my friend and I kept running into them. And all of a sudden, I realized that I actually couldn't see any more. See, what happens is my brain recreates what should be there. It's like watching a video. And I have lapses in that video sometimes when I'm really concentrating on something and all of a sudden, I realize I'm not seeing what I'm out my eyes. But actually what I'm seeing out my eyes is all created by my mind. And so I don't know that I can't see until I go to try and touch what should be there. And it's not because my brain has has, you know, got the wrong picture for the wrong situation sort of thing. So it's very interesting. And so someone asked, someone once asked me, What's it like being totally blind? Because one is totally blind. The other one? Well, it's, it is totally blind now to but one I have. I have mental video. The other I have nothing. And I like to say to them, it's like looking out your left ear. Yeah, if you could look out your left ear is absolutely nothing. It's not darkness. It's not darkness. People need to understand that it is not darkness. It's nothing. And there's a big difference. Yeah, there's a big difference. Yeah, sorry, what we can say? Michael Hingson 23:52 No, no, I was just agreeing with you. There's a there's a big difference. Well, but you, you know, I grew up and didn't use a cane or a guide dog until I was 14. But I learned the areas and I learned to listen extremely well. So our elementary schools were very open. They weren't just like a single building. And so walking down sidewalks, there were roofs over the sidewalks. And they were held up by polls. And I didn't run into the polls because I learned to hear the polls and could have weighed them. And and so I was able to do that I was able to ride a bike around the neighborhood and so on. Eventually, my brother and I started doing a paper route together. And so we did he had a tandem bike to do that. But still, for a lot of the area around my neighborhood I could ride a bike and and do all the same things that the other kids did. In reality, I didn't do a lot of things that they did. I didn't play baseball or other things like that. And I found other ways to entertain myself or to watch them if you will. But you know the Act is that the brain is a wonderful thing. Well, look at you, you had cerebral palsy, you worked through that your brain worked through that. And probably, you developed other neural pathways to be able to accomplish the things that that you needed to do, which are now just part of what you normally do. Joseph Stephen 25:20 Yeah, exactly. In fact, I was able to remember pi, you know, pi 3.141592653589703, I was able to, I was able to remember that to 200 decimal places, there. Yeah. So, so the doctors were, I mean, I, I honestly, attribute all of all of what I've been able to accomplish to God, because it's a miracle compared to where I was at. It was a lot of hard work. Yes. But it was also a lot of determination on the part of my mother, and on the part of my teachers on the UN, and also constantly being challenged. I guess I've always felt like, I want to be one step ahead. Yeah. Michael Hingson 26:12 It's what you got to do. Yeah. So you went to college, which is pretty cool. What did you do then when you got out of college? Well, it's, Joseph Stephen 26:23 well, for the first few months, I actually went back to Malaysia with, with my, well, who's now my wife. And I had an interesting story there. Because we went to Malaysia. And we were staying there. And I really needed to get a job, I needed to get some money and, and I applied to all these places to do computer programming. And this one place, I ended up, they gave me an interview. And I walked in there and I was really trying hard to pretend I wasn't blind, and marry my wife. Now she, she, you know, she went in with me. And you know, we just casually sat down and did the interview said nothing about my blindness or anything. And right at the end, the guy looks at me and he goes, How do you do this stuff? Okay, what do you mean? You, you look like you're, you look like you're blind. I said, Oh, I've got a talking computer. Anyway, he gave me the job. I mean, he gave me the task to do that afternoon that they had this massive of this bug that they couldn't fix in their system, that it had overflowed their capacity. And I, I went home, and three hours later, I had solved the problem. And I went back and they gave me the job. But there was a lot of prejudice in Malaysia far more than then in a Western country. I mean, it was so bad, that that my wife didn't like me having a cane. And because it just drew so much attention. And it ended up causing us to fall into a storm drain, which is, you know, like six feet deep and full of machines and slash at the bottom. And we had to climb out of that. And but, you know, the stigma there is far worse than here. In fact, it was so bad, we ended up coming back here. But I was able to get a job there. Through sheer, you know, determination and, and well and, and in a sense, good on that boss. He was perceptive enough. But more important than that, he asked you rather than just turning you down and shut he was great. Yeah, I mean, he'd studied in Australia. So I think he had a bit more exposure to, to the fact that people with disabilities had more opportunities here than they did there. I mean, they're blind people, I only ever met one that had like a job as a telephone telephony in a bank. But most of them were, you know, sniffing lighter, fluid and, you know, busking on the street with a keyboard just playing random notes. And if they had, if they were even able to do that there was one lady there was selling tissues, and helped by a granddaughter to get to that spot on the bridge every day. And you know, that there was a lot of, I feel, I truly do feel blessed. I mean, I know that 75% of blind people are out of work. So, you know, Michael Hingson 29:38 yeah. But we can only do what we can do. And and like I said, the other side of it is that for those of us who can and are willing to do it, we need to allow our teaching skills to come through to help educate, because that's really what it's what it's about and there are there even in this country. There are so many Times that the so called experts are the ones that are the biggest roadblocks. There's an organization that started this whole thing about dining in the dark. And their, their logic was. So eat in the dark, and you can see what it's like to be a blind person, which is totally false, which is totally obnoxious. And it doesn't teach you anything except to be more prejudiced about blind people and blindness. Because what you don't get is the training. And every sighted person gets training on how to eat and tie their shoes and so on. Why should it be different for us? Joseph Stephen 30:37 Yeah. Michael Hingson 30:40 Well, so you had that software job. And, and then, but then you went back to Australia and, and started conversing with the kangaroos I trust? Joseph Stephen 30:51 Oh, yes. Yeah. So when we came back here, I actually still work for that Malaysian company for a little while, but it became, well, it wasn't, it wasn't profitable enough, because the dollar was like a third of our dollar. So I ended up giving that away. And I worked went to work for the Royal Society for the blind business as a as a Assistive Technology Officer finding solutions for blind people, because someone had put a recommendation into the that they should hire me. And I went over to see son conference in 1999. Because I'd already done some contracts with, with the Henty Joyce, in terms of scripting before that time, but only 99. I went over to the CSUN conference, and I met Eric dammar at and he said, so will you work for us? And I said on one condition, he goes, What's that? I said, I work from home. Okay, so from July 1999, a couple of months after our first child was born, I started working full time for them. And then I went into systems programming rather than just scripting and the rest is history. I have about 10, patents 10 inventions that I added to the company and yeah, all of the lots of the heavy lifting for JAWS has been done from either Adelaide or Tasmania. Michael Hingson 32:25 Well, and for those who don't know, JAWS, that stands for Job Access With Speech is a software program called a screen reader. And what it does is it verbalizes, the text video that comes across the screen isn't necessarily itself great at graphics. But it's not intended to be the artificial intelligence solution, at least at this point, unless there are things going on that Joseph isn't telling us about yet, but they're coming, I know it will come. But the reality is that it is the predominant piece of technology that we who happen to be blind use to interact with a computer. It's the the most popular screen reader on there, there's a charge for it, there are a couple of screen reader software packages that are out there that are that are free or much less cost. But the other part about Freedom Scientific and JAWS is that they've been doing this a long time. And so JAWS has clearly gotten a lot more done and can interact in a lot of ways that the others are still playing catch up to get to. Joseph Stephen 33:39 I remember, we were the first screen reader to work with Microsoft Office. And the things we did was so unconventional, I mean, I can't go into the the technical stuff, but we really did everything possible to get information out of the application. And so, you know, a screen reader doesn't just build a model of the screen, it figures out what's going on in the application, what needs to be spoken, what the user wants to know. Because there's a big difference between accessibility and productivity, and usability and usability something can be something can be totally accessible but totally unusable. I won't name any applications right now. But the blind people out there who knows who knows what's going on in the world knows what I'm talking about. But the reality is you need both you need accessibility and usability and the idea of Jaws is to try and allow blind people to be as productive as their sighted counterpart not just to give the ability, not just the give them the ability to to hear what's on the screen, but to make them productive. Michael Hingson 34:52 What is so frustrating about being a JAWS user is when Microsoft For example, updates windows. And at least this is the way I've heard it a number of times doesn't quickly or ahead of time, pass along to the screen reader manufacturers, the things that are about to be updated so that when the updates actually roll out, the screen reader updates can roll out as well. And the result is, you're always playing catch up, and we're always the victims of things not working for a while until you can play catch up. Joseph Stephen 35:30 Yeah, I mean, that, that that's generally true, although I must say Microsoft have been a lot, a lot better in recent years. Yeah. Giving us leeway, and time. But But there's always, always the issue of, you know, cycles, whether our cycle matches with meshes with their development cycle and, and things like that, you know, we have to do a lot of to jumping through hoops to get stuff done on time. Still, Michael Hingson 35:59 do you find that Microsoft makes life any more difficult because of course, they want to promote narrator which is the built in screen reader inside of Windows? Joseph Stephen 36:09 Oh, it's very frustrating because they People often come to us and say, well, Nurten Narrator works. But Narrator doesn't work in the same way that Jaws does. And quite often, what, what what they pass for accessibility is just it doesn't it just doesn't cut it. So while Narrator might say something. Anyway, I guess I'm not really here to bash Narrator But Michael Hingson 36:39 Well, no, I don't want to and I didn't want to bash Narrator It was more of a curiosity. But But But you're right. And look, there are a number of screen readers. And there's an advantage to having been around longer. I think my first exposure to Jaws was in 19 96.21 or something, something like that. Yeah. And it came, I came in this big box with a whole bunch of tapes that I cassettes, and I went through all the lessons. But it was it was the best thing. And at that time, it was probably about the only thing around. And so I've been using JAWS ever since and, and thoroughly enjoying it. And love to see how it continues to progress and all of the various clever things that are that are going on. Joseph Stephen 37:36 I remember back in those days, the I was such a skeptic, because they were they were other screen readers that just crashed all the time that were absolutely atrocious. And when someone said, Oh, we tried yours, I really didn't expect anything of it after I'd already tried like a handful of screen readers. I was so pleasantly surprised. And the fact is that the reason why it was such a success is because of the number of blind people that are involved in its development. Yeah, we know what we need, and we have to get it done for our own job. And so, you know, JAWS for me is far more than a job. It's, it's my baby, it's another one of my children. It's my oldest child, in fact. And you know, we, as a company, we absolutely listen to us as the biggest trouble is, we've usually got way, way, way more stuff to fix and do then then you know, we have people to do it. And that's typically why things take longer. And of course, you make one little change in a mature package like this. And you're likely to break something for someone somewhere. Yeah. And so it's really hard now to get fixes in because you really have to be so careful that you don't mess up someone else's job. Just because you make a change for one person who's screaming loudly enough. So it's it's a balancing act for sure. Michael Hingson 39:06 And you know, then the other part about it is you've got people like Eric Dan Murray, who really got it. And it's right, and to truly understood it. Eric is going to definitely be missed for retiring. Oh, yeah. And it's like with Kurzweil education system, Steven Bomb, the same way. I'm a person who, who got it who understood blindness as well as anyone could. And who was committed to truly making a product that worked, which is what it was really all about. And so people like that are sorely going to be missed, and other people will hopefully come along who will do the same thing but Freedom Scientific has done a really great job with what's happened with JAWS. And you're right, there's so many different definitions of accessibility, it's amazing, right Joseph Stephen 40:03 , which I guess leads us to the next topic, which is, you know, accessibility in general, I am such so passionate about accessibility, I get very frustrated when someone comes out with a new invention, supposedly for the blind, and it's so bug ridden that that is just not usable. But anyway, that leads me to amateur radio, which I also wanted to make accessible. And I know that you're an amateur radio operator, too. And so since 1964, wow, a lot longer than me, I only got my license in 2015. But there was this guy who was reverse engineering, Chinese firmware. And we got hold of that project. And he started adding voice prompts. And I really appreciated what he did. But it became a closed project. So we sort of branched it off and kept it open and added heaps more features and also added. So what we do is we, we go to Chinese radio, we reverse engineered the firmware, we added voice prompts, so that everything on the radio spoke, including, you know, entering frequencies, and literally everything, there was nothing, there was 100 100%, accessible and usable. And this is for a whole bunch of Chinese radios with a similar chipset. And there's another open source project that I've been doing that with as well. So even even that landscape has changed dramatically. And you know, it's a lot of work. But it's, it's been very rewarding doing that, too. Michael Hingson 41:40 Yeah, and the the landscape changes, the sophistication changes. And so there are a lot of things like that, that make it even, you know, much more interesting going forward. I have a Kenwood 570. So that's old. I mean, I bought it in 2000. And I actually haven't set up an antenna here, and I've lived here for quite a while and really should. But I've been using a service, partly on the phone called Echo link to be able to communicate, but I also do have a Kenwood two meter walkie talkie, and love ham radio, but it will like everything, as you said the whole landscape is changing. Yeah, I mean, I, I did amateur radio for I mean the firmware for about two and a half years. Because I was doing programming during the day I started to get burnt out. So now I've sort of switch gears. And now I'm doing music production with an old friend from Adelaide, who I started singing with back in 1986. So now, that's what I tend to do in my spare time. And that's what you use Reaper for. That's right, what a game changer that is. Well, I'm so grateful to those guys. Yeah, Reaper, and then there are a couple of scripts, like Mr. Snow Barker, among others, but also other things that have truly made it accessible. And I know that I use it in a very simple way on dealing with editing a lot of audio and so on. But still, it is such a such a game changer, as you said, and just reading so many things that are being done by so many different people who happen to be blind in the whole music production world. And they're, and they're talking about things that are way above my paygrade I could learn them. But I'm not really interested in doing music production. But I love Reaper. And it works really well. And again, it's one of those things that isn't even a very expensive product for anyone. It's like $60 to get a license for it. And in the US, and it works really well. So it's a way to be able to edit these podcasts and do all the things that are necessary to to make them sound reasonably decent and so on and which is a lot of fun. Joseph Stephen 43:45 Well, again, I think this brings me back to the labia one of our it's such an important topic. This unstoppable mindset. This unstoppable mindset is not something that other people do, and everyone just enjoys the fruit of everyone can be part of it. You know, I'm I do my bit in the community, you do your bit in the community. Someone else does their bit in the community, but if everyone excels and does the best that they can do, it contributes to the whole blind community and everyone's lives can be impacted the whole blind community and beyond actually, right. But if it if everyone's just the consumer, leaves it to everybody else to do well. Nothing gets done. Michael Hingson 44:59 I, my wife passed away in November. And so I have more time on my own. We were basically married for two years. And I know that she's around here. So I need to continue to behave, because if I don't, I'm going to hear from her. So I got to watch my P's and Q's, which is fine. But one of the things that happened here last year, was that, like, every year, our homeowners association has a board of directors and we have elections every year. And last year, by the time the elections were supposed to happen, they didn't have a quorum. And I think it took two extensions before they finally got enough votes to have a quorum. This year, I decided to run. And one of the main things that I've said, at meetings that we've had, and I've said it emails and so on, is I want your vote. I really appreciate you voting for me. But even if you don't want to vote for me, please vote and get other people to vote. Because we need to reach that quorum. And you know what, Joseph, the quorum is 25%. So that's 1200, roughly property owners that have to vote in order to certify an election, which is a crazy low number. And I have no idea yet where where we stand last week, we were at only about 16 and a half or 16.7%. Still, and the election is supposed to be held this Saturday. I'm hopeful because I and I know others have also sent election information out and I'm hoping that we will definitely have a quorum. And as I said, I I would love to be one of the people elected there three board seats open. But either way, people should take an interest in the community, at least enough to vote for the board for heaven's sakes, we all are part of the same community, wherever we are. And we should be involved, we should take enough of an interest to be involved to some degree wherever we can. That doesn't mean we need to do everything. But you're absolutely right. We do need to be involved and take an active interest, Joseph Stephen 45:00 Right something go down the well and others hold the rope. But you know, be part of it be.Someone once said to me, and I've always loved this quote, you know, don't curse the darkness, light a candle? Michael Hingson 47:25 Yeah. And I've heard people say, pictures are worth 1000 words, but they also take a lot more memory. So But you're right, and a candle, or whatever you do. Be a part of it. That's one of the things that I think is, is so discouraged as people being a part of things, and there are too many people who are just not used to being active. And it doesn't mean that you need to be an activist, but you should be involved and have enough of an interest that you can help the community and without always help yourself as well. Joseph Stephen 48:06 Right? Yeah, fine. Find what you're good at. And do the best at what you do. Yeah. Michael Hingson 48:13 So you have nine children, you've been married 27 years. And when you went to Cambria on a bike now, was that a tandem bike? Or did you ride? Yeah, that was a that was a tandem. How long did that take? Joseph Stephen 48:25 11 days. And it was a distance of 1486 kilometers. And it was interesting because there was maybe, I think it was 12 people that rode all the way from Perth, across through Adelaide, where they met up with us and on to Canberra. And so what happened was, as we got closer to Canberra, more and more bikes would join us. So by the last kilometer or so we had like 300 bikes. 300 cyclists it was it was fantastic. Michael Hingson 48:56 Did you make your monetary goals? Joseph Stephen 48:59 Yes, but thankfully back then I had other people sorting all that out. I just had to write. Michael Hingson 49:05 Yeah, yeah. You didn't get involved in the money counting in the money changing? No. That's okay. But you were a participant and I'll bet how a lot of fun and fond memories of that yes, indeed. Michael Hingson 49:23 Go on. Your your your children, I assume are are not none of them are blind because they didn't have the same issue of premature births and so on are correct. Joseph Stephen 49:35 None of them are blind. A few of them wear glasses though, but for totally different reasons. Michael Hingson 49:41 Well, a lot of people wear glasses though. It's okay. Yeah. So you, you you do you do a lot of different things. Do you do any extracurricular activities or do you think you're doing enough things that you don't get involved in sports or any of those kinds of things? Joseph Stephen 50:00 I don't have any spare time. I mean, if I'm not if I'm not doing family things, and I'm not doing fun things, and I'm not doing work things, and I'm not doing music things, and I'm not doing writing, I'm usually trying to get a bit of sleep. But people have often joke that I don't sleep because I get so much done during the day. I just like being productive. I think I'm hyperactive, so I, I can't stand doing nothing. Michael Hingson 50:27 What do you I hear you What do you farm? Joseph Stephen 50:31 We have sheep, a few cows and sheep or goats. I tend to do more of the maintenance sort of stuff on the farm. The children look after the animals. I have done hay baling and fencing and irrigation and repairing goat shed floors and things like that. But I usually let the children do the animals. Michael Hingson 50:52 Everybody seems to remember something someone has to take the executive responsibility. Yeah, exactly. Which is, which is perfectly reasonable, which is not a problem. Tell me about your writing and your books, if you would. Joseph Stephen 51:08 I've written six books on very, very different topics. So I've got a poetry book, I've got a book on, it's called more than meets the eye. I've got a book on my my journey as a Christian and the things I've learned doctrinal things that I want to pass on to my children called sufficiency of Scripture. I've got another book about biblical relationships. And I've got a homeschooling curriculum, which I did with my wife on Braille and blindness, bright blindness, Braille and the Bible. I have a book on computer programming as a homeschooling curriculum, called the perfect programmer, referring to God as the one who's programmed everything in the DNA. And I'm currently working on a book for a missionary friend who's who's really at the end of his life, who worked in West Papua for 25 years. And he's got interesting stories of cannibalism, and aeroplane crashes and all kinds of stuff. So I've been doing working on that one, most recently. So yeah, very, very varied. Michael Hingson 52:16 Do you publish the books yourselves? Or do you have a publisher? Joseph Stephen 52:21 I did have a publisher, but they went broke, thanks to my books.And no, so I managed to get the manuscript back from them. And then we self published after that, which was a lot cheaper to do. Michael Hingson 52:39 Well, but you seem to be doing pretty well with him. I was just looking And I don't think that you sent me any photos of book covers. But if you want to promote any of those, send those to me. And when this goes up, I definitely would be happy to make sure that the the book covers are featured as part of what of what we put up if you'd like. Okay, yeah, that'd be great. That would, that would be fun to do. But, you know, you've you've clearly accomplished a lot and are more important than anything, you're having fun doing it. And I think that's the really big issue that if we can't have fun doing what we're doing, then, you know, where are we? Joseph Stephen 53:21 Oh, absolutely. And I think that's the thing that we can live extremely fulfilled lives, and lives that are meaningful in our community. So, you know, as I said, there are pros, there are consumers, and there are producers. And I think it's just like the Bible says, and so it's better to, it's more blessed to give than to receive, I think it's far more exciting to be a producer and a consumer. Michael Hingson 53:54 And it's always better to help people learn to fish rather than just giving people fish. Yes, exactly. If you were to give some advice, of any sort to, let's say, people who could see what would what would you like people to take away from this? There's a toughy huh? Yeah. Joseph Stephen 54:18 Are you talking specifically about how sighted people see those with a disability? Michael Hingson 54:25 Um, you can start there if you'd like, but whatever you feel would be relevant. advice to give people certainly, talking about disabilities is one pertinent thing but I didn't know whether you wanted to even go further. Joseph Stephen 54:42 Find out what you what you like doing, do it to the best of your ability and help others in the process. Michael Hingson 54:54 It doesn't get much better than that. Clearly, what would you say about disabilities in four two? The people who don't view themselves as having a disability, sighted people about blindness and so on? Joseph Stephen 55:07 Well, I agree with you that attitude is everything, I would also hit those say that it is difficult as a, as a person with a disability related or interacting with those who don't have a disability in a family situation. And I don't think anyone prepared me. Let me rephrase it, because of the, the tight, the time at which I grew up, the emphasis was on buying people can do anything. But what they didn't tell me was how my disability was going to affect my family. And so it is, it is one thing to be proactive in terms of education and to and to break the glass ceiling, so to speak. There is also though the reality of living in a world where most people are different from you, and being responsible and reasonable and sensitive about how your disability affects others. And particularly, you know, your your wife and your children. They are often the wings, the wind between the wind beneath our wings. And they oftentolerate a lot from us that other people don't necessarily notice the carers and the people who, you know, we don't make it by ourselves. We really don't, we're all interdependent. And I guess I want to emphasize that too, that there are people in our lives, who don't have the disability that we have, who really helped us to be who we are, and we must give them credit. Michael Hingson 57:25 Absolutely. The other side of that, though, is that those people also, whether they recognize it or not have had help along the way, I believe in something that Gandhi once said, which is that interdependence ought to be as much the ideal of man as his self sufficiency. Because the reality is, we are absolutely an independent dependent world, all the way around. And, and I think it's important to, to recognize that, that all of us get help in so many different ways from so many different people, whether we realize it or not. And it is also true, that sometimes we don't even know how we've helped other people. But if we're living our lives, we're helping other people as well. Joseph Stephen 58:18 Yep, that's right. No, I really, I really like that. I think that the problem is, when you don't have a disability, you tend not to think of yourself as interest interdependent, right. And that's part that's part of that's part of our problem, as well. Yeah. I mean, that's why that's why people don't recognize their need for gardening in a lot of ways is because they're, they're too self dependent. Michael Hingson 58:46 Or they think they are and they think they are, yeah, exactly what what kind of advice would you give now and say to a blind person, about whatever, Joseph Stephen 58:57 as a blind person, don't, don't expect everyone else to make your, your life accessible, get out there and do it, and contribute and be a producer and not a consumer. Michael Hingson 59:15 It's so true, right? I mean, that's exactly what we all need to do. And we need to learn to do it. It is so unfortunate, and in society, we just don't teach enough of that to people in general. I think we used to do it more than we do it today. But we really need to teach people to learn to step out. Take risks, when appropriate, and learn what when appropriate means but don't just sit back. It's better to be a driver than a passenger. Joseph Stephen 59:48 Yeah, I think the in all fairness though, because of the the move to integrate blind people into sighted schools very very, very early without the special education Quite often blind people don't have the, the networks that they once had. Not that you want to only be in a blind world, you need to be in a sighted world and a blind world. But the problem is if you don't, if you've if you've never had the opportunity to learn how to do sighted things in an efficient way, I mean, we really need, like blind people to be helped be mentors and things like that, too. You know? And I'm certainly willing to do that. Michael Hingson 1:00:46 Yeah, I hear you. And the but the other. The other part about it is that I think there are a lot of in this country there, there are a lot of attempts to provide teachers to help. The problem is that from a philosophical standpoint, and a practical standpoint, they themselves don't get the training that they truly need to help blind people truly understand what independence is all about, and how to be independent. And the result is that they don't teach some of the skills that they could teach, or that they could contribute to teaching better than they do. So the teachers themselves can be a part of the problem, and shouldn't be, but they are. Joseph Stephen 1:01:30 Yeah, no, I agree with that, particularly in Australia, as I said, with this article, The Rise and Fall of life skills, it got to a peak, you know, back in the 50s and 60s, people blind people weaving baskets, then there was the, the the attitude of blind people can do anything, then we move to integration. So we had special education, then we moved into early integration, and it got earlier and earlier and earlier till the special education went out the window. And some people say it was because of budget and government spending, etc. But, but the reality is we've gone backwards now. 1234 Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. To before. The, the, the upward trend. Yeah, just quite sad Michael Hingson 1:02:12 . On the episode number five of this podcast, we interviewed a lady named Peggy Chung, who is known as the blind history lady. And she specializes by choice in learning the history of blind people and blindness and so on. And she, among other things, talks about the fact that in the past as late as in the 1940s, or around 1940, I think I'd have to go back and listen. We had as many as three blind congressmen in the United States, and there's been one blind senator, now we have none. Because society has decided, once again, that blindness is really more of a problem in the wrong way than it is. And I think that can happen so much in the world, which is truly unfortunate. She has a lot. Joseph Stephen 1:03:11 Go ahead. I ran as a candidate for political party twice in 2010 and 2016. So yeah, there's a lot of stigma attached still, in getting blind people into places of leadership. Michael Hingson 1:03:27 She also tells us a story about the invention of the typewriter, which was really for a blind Countess to want Countess who wanted to be able to exchange or have notes go to her lover without her husband finding out fascinating stories. So if you get a chance, go back and check out Episode Five. It's really kind of fun. Well, I am going to thank you for being here. We've been doing this an hour already. We could probably go on but I think we've given people enough to think about don't you? Joseph Stephen 1:03:56 Oh, absolutely. Thanks for having me. I really appreciate you being here. Michael Hingson 1:04:00 How can people maybe reach out to you and learn more about you or learn about the books and all that? Joseph Stephen 1:04:06 We have a website called faithfulgenerations.com www dot F A I T H F U L G E N E R A T I O N S faithfulgenerations.com That's where you can read about my testimony and books. It doesn't have anything about our music musics on Bandcamp two servants, T W O S E R V A N T S two servants on Bandcamp and b a n d c a s t B A N D C A M P band camp actually actually have our our first album is actually available on most of the platforms now like Spotify and that two servants. It's called further down the road. The next album coming out is over the hill and then maybe it will be under the turf. I'm not sure. Yeah, because the guy that I started singing with back in 1986. He's now 73. And I'm 51. And so it's just a little private joke between us. The well I'm 73 He's okay. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it sounds 73 He doesn't sound 73 Michael Hingson 1:05:20 Well, we keep trying. Exactly. Well, this has been fun. And I want to thank you for listening. Love to hear your thoughts about any of this and you are welcome to reach out to me. You can reach me Michaelhi at accessibe A C C E S S I B E.com. We'd love to hear your thoughts. We didn't even talk about accessibly or anything today, but we had enough other fun things to talk about. We could have a whole hour probably you and I on artificial intelligence in general anyway, right? Joseph Stephen 1:05:49 Oh, absolutely. Michael Hingson 1:05:52 But I hope people will reach out to me Michaelhi@accessibe dot com or go to www dot Michael hingson.com/podcast. Singular, and listen to more episodes. But wherever you're listening, please give us a five star rating. We appreciate it. We value your thoughts and your comments and your ratings and reviews. So please give us a five star rating and let us know your thoughts. And don't ever hesitate to reach out and Joseph for you and for you listening. If you know of anyone else who might make a good podcast guest, please email me please let me know. We are always looking for more folks to interview and we appreciate your help to find them. And the number of people have done that over the past year and a half plus, and I'm sure we'll get more of those. So don't hesitate to give us your suggestions. We are always looking for people to talk with. So Joseph once more. Thanks very much. And I really appreciate your time and all of your your good thoughts today. Joseph Stephen 1:06:53 Thanks for having me. Michael Hingson 1:07:00 You have been listening to the Unstoppable Mindset podcast. Thanks for dropping by. I hope that you'll join us again next week, and in future weeks for upcoming episodes. To subscribe to our podcast and to learn about upcoming episodes, please visit www dot Michael hingson.com slash podcast. Michael Hingson is spelled m i c h a e l h i n g s o n. 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Despero vs High Evolutionary

Play Episode Listen Later May 16, 2023 42:11

Subscribe and listen to the new Max Destruction podcast, coming May 24th!Join our community at https://patreon.com/dynamicduel• 0:00:00 - Introduction • 0:01:31 - Question of the Week • 0:05:20 - Despero vs High Evolutionary intro • 0:08:20 - Despero history and abilities • 0:18:34 - High Evolutionary history and roster • 0:28:22 - Fight speculation • 0:37:40 - Duel results • 0:40:28 - Sign off Website: https://dynamicduel.comInstagram: https://instagram.com/dynamicduelpodcastTwitter: https://twitter.com/Dynamic_DuelMerch: https://dynamic-duel-shop.fourthwall.com/Executive producers: Ken Johnson, John Starosky, Zachary Hepburn, Dustyn Balcom, Miggy Matanguihan, Brandon Estergard, Nathaniel Wagner, Levi Yeaton, Nic Abanto, Austin Wesolowski, AJ Dunkerley, Scott Camacho, Gil Camacho, Adam Speas and Zach Wilder.Killers by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/song/3952-killers, Final Battle of the Dark Wizards by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/song/3752-final-battle-of-the-dark-wizards, Take a Chance by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4457-take-a-chance, Clash Defiant by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3510-clash-defiant, Blip Stream by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3443-blip-stream, Nowhere Land by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4148-nowhere-land, License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license#Despero #HighEvolutionary #MarvelVsDCThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5414543/advertisement

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3OG Unlimited - Episode 56

3 Old Geeks

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 18, 2022 10:28

This week, the Geeks review the Justice League episodes 'Hearts & Minds I & II' featuring the Justice League and the Green Lantern Corps taking on the forces of Despero! Thanks for listening! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/3oldgeeks/message

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Episode 19 – An Unstoppable Pioneer in Web Accessibility and Life with Mike Paciello

Unstoppable Mindset

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 2, 2022 64:43

It is not often that most of us have the opportunity and honor to meet a real trendsetter and pioneer. Today, you get to meet such an individual. Mike Paciello has been a fixture in the assistive technology world for some thirty years. I have heard of him for most of that time, but our paths never crossed until this past September when we worked together to help create some meetings and sessions around the topic of website accessibility. As you will hear, Mike began his career as a technical writer for Digital Equipment Corporation, an early leader in the computer manufacturing industry. I won't tell you Mike's story here. What I will say is that although Mike is fully sighted and thus does not use any of the technology vision impaired persons use, he really gets it. He fully understands what Inclusion is all about and he has worked and continues to work to promote inclusion and access for all throughout the world. After you hear our podcast with Mike, I'd love to hear your thoughts. Please feel free to email me at michaelhi@accessibe.com to tell me of your observations. Some directories do not show full show notes. For the complete transcription please visit https://michaelhingson.com/podcast About our Guest: Mike Paciello has been a pioneer and influential figure in the accessibility industry for more than three decades. He wrote the first book on web accessibility and usability (Web Accessibility for People with Disabilities), and has since achieved many notable milestones. He is the founder of WebABLE.Com and co-founder of WebABLE.TV. Mike currently serves as AbleDocs VP of US Operations. Mike served as co-chair of the United States Federal Access Board's Telecommunications and Electronic and Information Technology Advisory Committee (TEITAC), co-founder of the International Committee for Accessible Document Design (ICADD), and was recognized by President Bill Clinton for his contribution to the W3C Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI). He was the recipient of the 2016 Knowbility Lifetime Achievement and the 2020 ICT Accessibility Testing Symposium Social Impact awards. Contact Mike at mpaciello@webable.com or mpaciello@abledocs.com About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog. Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards. https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/ accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/ Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below! Subscribe to the podcast If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can also subscribe in your favorite podcast app. Leave us an Apple Podcasts review Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts. Transcription Notes Michael Hingson 00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us. Welcome to another edition of unstoppable mindset. Thanks for joining us this week, we have a guest I've been looking forward to for quite a while his name is Mike Paciello. And I'm not going to tell you a whole lot about him because he gets to do that himself, except I will tell you that he's very deeply involved in the web accessibility world. Why do we deal with web accessibility a lot on this podcast? And why do I continue to bring it up. Because if you've listened to many of these podcasts, you know that there is an ever widening gap between websites that are accessible and those that are not. And it is something that we all need to deal with. Because there are so many people in this world who don't get to access all the websites that everyone else can access for one reason or another. Mike has been very deeply involved in dealing with those issues for a lot of years. And I'd like to introduce you to him now. And we can talk more about it. Mike, welcome to unstoppable mindset. Mike Paciello 02:23 Thanks, Mike. Great to be here. Michael Hingson 02:27 So how did you even get involved in this? I mean, you you are cited you, you, as far as I know, don't have any what people would call physical disabilities and all that. So how did you get involved in all this? Mike Paciello 02:41 Well, it's a it's a long and winding story that probably folks have heard many times in the past, but I was worked at a a computer company that no longer exists anymore. It maybe exists in parcels at HP. But it was Digital Equipment Corporation back in the 80s. I actually Michael Hingson 03:03 just this morning was reading something from someone on a list where they were talking about the old desktop synthesizer. Mike Paciello 03:10 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I know that memories. Yeah, I know the guys that worked on that. And Tony Vitaly was one of the lead engineers on that. And Tony, now we're good friends. He passed away several years ago from ALS. Ironically enough, it he discovered it while he was at the seaside conference. Boy, I think so. So this was in the late 90s, maybe in early 2000s. But at any rate, I was working as a technical writer at Digital in the mid mid 80s, right through the early 90s. And was asked to take on a project voluntarily, which involved providing our computer software documentation we did mostly operating system software, to the National Braille Press in Boston. And I just thought it was interesting. And so I followed up and they said, and maybe you'll get a request once or twice a year. I hadn't had the project for more than a few hours. And I got a cost a call right away from Bill reader who was the writer? Yep. You know, Bill, yes. And he said, Hey, we need this, this this this? Can you bring these down? And I said, Sure, I'd have been happy to. And so I hadn't carried the physical publications, which as I found out, they would then take and transcribe into and reproduce in Braille. And Bill was awesome. He gave me a complete tour of, you know, the factories and the offices and what they did. And right away he started talking about, you know, screen reader. Well, actually, it was a screen reader technology that was braille translation software at that particular time. It's so that that piqued my interest, and i i At the same time I was doing that I also happen to be working in the very first instances of markup language. This is pre SGML, which, as anyone that knows the standardized, standardized or Standard Generalized Markup Language was the precursor to HTML, which is makes up the web. But it was actually a, a markup language used to basically mirror what an editor, a physical editor of a red publication would do, you know, take a ticket document from an individual divided up into, you know, logical portions on on, you know, within a page. So this is a paragraph, this is a list, this needs to be indented. This is a title, this is a heading, those type of things. And Dale SGML could do that electronically. And at the time, I specifically was working on a project that involves converting our electronic documents or digital into postscript, which anyone knows a postscript is that free PDF? Yes. So I thought to myself, if we can do these electronic conversions from basically a text markup file, to a postscript file, which is, you know, kind of a graphical a page, right? Right. Why not output it to Braille? And that led me on my quest to go figure out how to do that. Michael Hingson 06:36 So what did you What did you end up doing? Mike Paciello 06:39 Well, I curse I had established a few contacts, because of this arrangement that digital had with the National Braille Press. And one of those contexts was George cursher. Anyone that knows anything about this business knows that George is a champion and a hero, and just one of the greatest human beings I've ever known. And Matt, and it's great to be to be called a friend and a colleague of his, Michael Hingson 07:08 and George was the person who kind of really was the proponent of the DAISY format, which is used today not only in audio recordings to make them fully accessible and navigable, but he did it for Braille as well. Mike Paciello 07:22 That's right. That's exactly right. And I'll tell you, a lot of people remember George for when he worked for what you would call it out there in New Jersey and Princeton for the blind index, Michael Hingson 07:36 RFP coding, right. Now Learning Ally, right, Mike Paciello 07:40 right, right, exactly. However, before he joined RFB, nd he had his own little company called computerized books for the blind, write it so I established a contact with him, he and I started talking about markup languages. He pulled it a couple of other people like Joe Sullivan, from Duxbury Systems. And Yuri Minsky, who was the President CEO of soft spot, which was a major producer of SGML editing software. And we formed together with many other colleagues, also international colleagues, what was a working group called the International Committee for accessible document design. We did that in the late early 90s, early 90s. Michael Hingson 08:30 So you, you put some processes together? And how successful were you at being able to get postscript translated into Braille? Mike Paciello 08:43 Well, no, no, as far as I know, there was no success there. Yes, story. The story with postscript is, you know, Adobe, eventually converted everything into a PDF. And that's where the success so to speak, relatively speaking, came in play. Adobe actually had members that were part of our, the internet international committee for accessible document design. And they got involved effect their lead engineer at that time was Carl Orthey. And Carl met with George myself in another great colleague, who worked with me at that time at Digital TV Raman. And we looked at ways of, again, taking the PDF and converting into something that was accessible. So that's that's so there's no real story as far as I know around postscript. It's all about PDF at that level. Michael Hingson 09:42 It's, it's interesting. You had a lot of good beginnings and laid a lot of foundations. But But today, it seems like a lot of the accessibility that we're seeing is still somewhat sporadic and spotty. In that not everything gets to be put into or can easily be put into an accessible form. Even with Adobe, there is a lot of document, there are a lot of documents that are released and created by various people that aren't accessible. Why is it that Adobe and other organizations don't really follow through and try to create native accessibility? Right from the outset? Mike Paciello 10:28 Yeah, well, you know what that is, it's it comes down very simply to it's a business decision. You know, corporations. for all intents and purposes, they've got a mindset, they're all about reporting back to their boards of directors, and reported profits. I mean, it's just a business's business, especially here in you know, in this in this country, where we're driven, you know, by a by, you know, why the markets in so businesses, businesses look at it, and I've yet to see this not be true. Even for those companies that I believe Excel, where accessibility is concerned, a businesses have never been able to figure out really how to turn accessibility as you and I know it into a business value proposition, they haven't figured out how to make it, how to make money out of it, there are all kinds of numbers that are thrown out there about discretionary income by people with disabilities. But it doesn't come down to that. It's it's channels, it's business lines, it's, it's we're talking about, you know, companies don't want to talk about making business unless we're talking about billions of dollars now. And then, you know, it won't take much longer looking at the recent, the recent profit reports, you know, by by Apple and Amazon, that we're going to be talking about trillions of dollars. So if we can generate that kind of thing, then then, you know, a business business really does want to want to investigate. And secondarily, designing architecting, developing all of the engineering lifecycle or product lifecycle disciplines that are associated with ensuring that whatever it is that we're building, and I'll just use just a software environment, because that's, that's what I'm most familiar with, whatever software platform or interface that we're designing or developing, you know, it has to be accessible, they're not doing enough, you know, out of the box, it's not being done in the concept, you know, conceptual design and architectural, and then fall all the way through. If you know, what I'm doing right now, as I'm illustrate, I'm using, you know, kind of a gesture to show, you know, for the beginning, all the way to the end of the lifecycle, there, every piece of that needs to be accounted for, where ensuring something is usable, and accessible to a variety of people, disabilities, and the persona types associated with it. And companies just typically don't make that kind of investment. Unless someone at the top is driving it. And, you know, you can look at, you know, I think Microsoft is a is a good company right now to kind of hold up there, because I believe that they've done a great job at raising the bar. Because all of its being driven by Jenny in by, you know, by their CEO, you know, he himself has, I think, at least one son with with a disability. So he's got a personal connection to it, but you don't see that at 90% of most businesses. So again, like I said, it's a, it's a value cost analysis, that, you know, from an accessibility standpoint, it's probably never going to really, truly wash. Now that even Michael Hingson 14:04 go ahead. Oh, go ahead. No, I was just gonna Mike Paciello 14:07 say, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be done. And that doesn't mean that we shouldn't tackle this pervasive, really, you know, like global challenge, using other means by which to, you know, kind of change the world and change thinking. And I really think that that's probably another big piece of it. Michael Hingson 14:28 We see them with Microsoft, but even with Microsoft, now with new windows 11. There are a lot of things that are technically accessible, but they're not obvious and they're not obviously located so that one can see them, you know, as an example. It used to be in his latest Windows 10. If you wanted to go to what we're now calling even with Windows and app that's installed on your machine, you hit the start button. And then you could use the arrow keys to go down and find the AP. But that's not the case in Windows 11 anymore. And there are additional keystrokes or other things that you need to do. They have not kept the same obvious process. And yes, it's accessible because you can find it. But is that really is usable, and was a lot of thought given to that when they were creating windows 11. And it seems to me that Jenny has has done a lot and we're speaking by the way for those who don't know, of Jenny Lefevere, who is the Chief Accessibility Officer for Microsoft, and Jenny is deaf, we met at a convention a few years ago. And obviously, you, you work with her pretty well. But I just think that there are things that they aren't, they're still not giving a lot of thought or as much thought as they should, to some of the architecture and ways to make Windows is obviously usable as it should be. Mike Paciello 15:59 You know, I mean, Mike, I can't, I can't deny that I totally agree. I think, you know, what we see out on the web in terms of social networking, social Mark marketing, we see what Microsoft wants us to hear, right, but we're not inside. In I am not at all surprised, because I frankly, I hear this about a lot of the other, you know, big companies, who was it was at Forbes was at Forbes, or was a fast company that just came out with this glowing article. It in mentioned, it was it was really kind of interesting. It mentioned Microsoft, Amazon, Google. Facebook, who else was in there apple in all these great, wonderful things that they do in I mean, you can't deny the fact that they've made some awesome, you know, steps forward and done some great things in behalf of the entire disabilities marketplace. Right. But force, but at the same time, you and I both know, I see every single day, if not hundreds, you know, dozens, you know, if not dozens, hundreds. So whichever way you want to look at it, I have people who are seeing exactly what you're saying. Yeah, great, but now I can't use Windows, I've seen that. I've seen that whole discussion on Windows 11. So what happened? Who's Who's not watching the the watching the ball there? How can you not at this point in the game, when you're in industry, as mature as Microsoft is? Including the accessibility space? How could you miss these things? You can't. So someone's making decisions that should either is, is not well educated, well versed and accessibility, or be and I think this tends to be more likely scenario. They're doing it because they're being driven by whatever financial incentives that they have. Right? Michael Hingson 18:04 Right. But But here's, here's another aspect of that. I agree that in especially in this country, we tend to be very driven by the financial aspects of it. What Uh, what about our stockholders, we've got to report directly to them. And they're the only ones who matter, which I'm not convinced is true. But that's what what companies do. But when do we get to see companies believe? It says much about the cost of doing business to include people with disabilities, and we'll deal with blindness here. But in general, to include people with disabilities as it is others look at Adobe, if you install Adobe Acrobat, or if you look at a lot of the things that that you can do with Acrobat, and Acrobat, DC today, we have Acrobat, DC, licensed as I do here, you get options for different kinds of languages, you get a variety of different kinds of settings. And obviously, those were put in because people somewhere thought it was important to have more than English, then of course, part of that is you want Acrobat to be able to be marketed all over the world. But even in this country, you want Acrobat to be able to produce documents and English and Spanish and Chinese and Japanese and other languages as well. But so there's a mindset there, that that's important. But I think part of the issue with corporate decisions is there isn't a mindset yet about dealing with disabilities, even though more than 20% of all people in this country and around the world have some sort of disability there isn't a mindset of inclusion for those people yet. Mike Paciello 19:56 Yeah, I totally agree. Um, you know, we all I often talk about culture, we often talk about acumen, we I used to have a domain that was called thinkaccessibility.com. And it's true with the mindset is, they're just not doing it. But I also feel like in I kind of apologize, because I haven't been able to come up with the right answer yet. But I used to talk in terms of what, you know, what, how do we change the world? I mean, that's, that's what we're trying to talk about, right? We're talking about changing the world change the world's mindset, as it relates to people with disabilities, in, in accessibility. In terms of any kind of interaction or, or or inclusive design doesn't matter whether it's hardware, or software, wood, or paper, or electronic. The same thing is true all the way across the board, I still see buildings that are built, and they don't meet the ADA standards. Right. Right. So So what is it? I used to talk about, you know, back in the, in the 90s, particularly, we went through this phase, where alternative energy became, you know, a big thing. In many governments, many, many governments put billions of dollars into alternative energies for a lot of reasons, right? They want to stop fossil fuel pollution and things along those lines, right? The the atmosphere, but there were a lot of reasons for doing it. But the the government's and the people, the scientists behind it, saw, had had the foresight, they saw a vision of what the world would be like, in 5060, you know, 100 years or decades ahead, in from the term from the standpoint of preservation, for from the standpoint of, you know, global warming, pollution, things along those lines, it became intrinsic to life, for every human. We haven't achieved that in the disability accessibility. A world in our world, we have not created a mindset that says, We need to change the world, because if we don't, this is what's going to happen in the years to come. Right? That makes sense. It does. Michael Hingson 22:31 And, you know, part of the problem is the term disability is still, we're great at redefining words, right? I mean, we've re defined, we've redefined diversity all over the place. And now diversity generally tends not to include disabilities. And will but we haven't been able to define disability yet to not mean you're not able. And so it is a problem. And I'm just not sure how we're going to get around that. But somewhere, we need to do that, to get the mindset to shift so that people can truly understand and accept that just because a person has a different ability set than they and it doesn't include some of the things that that their ability set includes. That does go the other way as well. And it isn't all of a physical nature necessarily. Mike Paciello 23:24 I totally agree. I tell you every I mean, what's also factually true is, you know, the profession, the business and the community that you and I are part of, is it is in and of itself kind of a civil rights notion, right? It is. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, in the US, it's absolutely that, well, actually, most countries, it's absolute. That's why you have, you know, Ada, like legislator, legislation and laws throughout, you know, throughout the world. But here's the interesting thing about that. Every great civil rights movement, every great movement, has always had a great leader and a vocal leader and a visible leader. And I've always thought that that's one of the things that we miss, we don't really have, we have some great leaders, we've got some great people out there. Jenny being one of them, for example. You know, when I, when I grew up, Ellen Brightman was like, it was like my hero key and Gary Moulton. Were just, you know, awesome. Good. George cursher, you know, to this day is, but we don't have, you know, a Martin Luther King, like individual, you know, a Mahatma Gandhi, like individual who, who doesn't just bring the cause, but brings the recognition in, in in creates change as a result of that in in so I still kind of think that that's something that we we probably need in this industry to to to change the world the way that we want to change it. Michael Hingson 24:56 Yeah. And and the problem is that to bring the recognition that take a Martin Luther King, the the thing is, there were some differences about him. But there were enough similarities between him and everyone else that people could rally around him. And I'm not sure that when you're viewing people as physically disabled or developmentally disabled, when you bring that disability in, there's, there's a part of it, that I'm not sure that anyone yet has figured out a way to get around the closest person who I ever encountered. And I never met him personally, but person who I think could have achieved that, although not in the exact same strident way that Dr. King did would be Jacobus timber, the founder of the National Federation of the Blind. He was he was the deep philosopher, and extremely vocal about it and very innovative, but he was blind. And I think that that's that problem is what we face in terms of dealing with disabilities. Mike Paciello 26:11 Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. Yeah, so I mean, I think that's just one, one piece of the, you know, of the puzzle, so to speak, to try to solve this worldwide mindset that that needs to be changed. Michael Hingson 26:31 Yeah, and I'm not sure how we're going to get around it. Because I think we also tend to not be violent, and we shouldn't be violent about what we do. But we do need to somehow cross this barrier. And maybe the way we need to do it is to be more forceful, collectively, and get people to to notice, but there are things that that companies could do take apple. So Apple, finally came to the realization and it took in part of the threat of a lawsuit to make it happen. But Apple finally took the iPhone and made it accessible. The iPod. And they even went so far as to make iTunes you available, although I don't hear as much about iTunes you today. But still, it was the method by which a number of people could get class lectures, and so on. And they made all of that accessible. The problem that I see with what Apple did is that they didn't take that last step. That is to say, there is still nothing in the App Store today that mandates any level of accessibility for the apps that they allow to go through the store. And they could make an incredible change in mindset and shift in mindset. If they would just say, your app has to have some level of accessibility. And that's going to be different for different kinds of apps. But at least I ought to be able to control apps that go through the store. And I recognize that a lot of apps are going to be graphical in nature, but they still ought to give me the ability to control the apps and manipulate the apps and my example that I use are star charts, you know, I'm not going to see star charts. But for me to take the time to describe it to someone and describe what I want to get them to manipulate it rather than me being able to manipulate it and then saying to someone, what do you see, I still don't even get that. And apps go in and out of accessibility in the app store all the time. Apple could, with a fairly simple process, make accessibility as mandatory in the store, as it does other things. It would seem to me. Mike Paciello 28:54 Yeah, well, what companies do about their own products is definitely one thing. But again, I still think it comes down to dollars and cents. No, they're not gonna push any harder than they have to, because they just don't have the C level people who should be, you know, putting this on their agenda and in prioritizing accessibility the way it ought to be, as we as we see it. Michael Hingson 29:21 Right. Right. But what's but what's the message there? The message, it seems to me is still we're still not really important enough for us to do that. Mike Paciello 29:31 Oh, that's right. You're not a viable entity? Yeah, absolutely. There's no doubt about that. They'll never say it. But in fact, that's really what's going on in the boardroom. Now. One One thing that we tried to do have been unsuccessful up till now. But when Jim Tobias and I shared the the last five weeks, one of the things that we had already laid groundwork for doing was implementing the Five weight requirements, which include all the the web accessibility requirements into the Americans Disabilities Act, because the Department of Justice was a participant there, they're following what we're doing. And we made some good head rows, headway into it. But it came to an abrupt abrupt stop. As a result of politics, frankly speaking. We, my my last meeting, ironically enough, at the White House, was the day before the 2001 or 2016 election. Yeah, yeah. 2016 election. And I listened to President Obama's chief technology officer, and his chief science officer, both talked about the players that they were laying out for the next four to eight years. In all those things got trashed right after that election. So again, not not not really, in no way am I see he could have a political position here, because I don't I stay out of politics, but I'm just sitting, having been the chair, a co chair, rather, of a committee, whose charter was to enhance the lives of individuals with disabilities by enhancing technology for accessibility. We lost, we lost, we lost quite a bit at that level. Now. You know, will it ever get into ADA? I don't know. I really don't know. It's it's more or less than table, that the Department of Justice position at this point is well, you know, things are fair, you know, are out there for everybody to follow. They don't need enforcement. But the reality is, lawsuits are gonna keep coming until until until enforcement is mandated. And then then corporations will do one or two things, they'll either comply, because they'll have to obey. Or they'll do what they typically do, which they send lobbyists groups in and fight it. Michael Hingson 32:06 Yeah, well, and you bring up a really interesting thing regarding lawsuits, because lawsuits can can be a powerful and valuable way to help the process if the litigation is brought for the right reason, namely, we really want to help fix the problem. But we're also seeing a lot of lawsuits. And it's been going on well, certainly before the ADEA. But we'll use the ADEA. And, and and our situations and experiences as the example, lawsuits today are often filed by lawyers who just want to make a bunch of money. They're very frivolous lawsuits. I saw one last week, where a lawyer decided to sue a company actually a bunch of different companies, because they said their websites were inaccessible. And they use the same boilerplate on on all of the lawsuits. And in reality, from the time the plaintiff, quote, looked at the website that I am aware of, until the time the lawsuit was filed was about a month. And in that time, unbeknownst to the defendant, or to the plaintiff, the company took action to make the website accessible because it was the right thing to do. So that by the time the lawsuit was filed, in reality, the claims were totally baseless because the website had become accessible and usable, demonstrably speaking, but yet the lawsuit was still fired filed, and there are so many of those frivolous lawsuits. It seems to me that one of the things that we ought to figure out ways to do is to get Bar Association's and others to go after these lawyers who are doing these frivolous lawsuits, because they're not doing anyone any good. Mike Paciello 34:07 Yeah, yeah, there's no doubt about there are a lot of evil, it's chases out there. They've been out there for as long as I've been, you know, in the software and web accessibility, because it's, I mean, I don't know if we'll ever be able to change that unless, unless we do what would there is there has been some inroads made in terms of how much a person can sue for and, and in some of the motivations for but yeah, yeah, I mean, it's sad, in unfortunately, they they bring in individuals with disabilities, you know, to be part of the of the suit itself. And that creates angst in the communities as well. Right. So I mean, it's, yeah, it's, it's funny, I gave a talk at the UN years ago on fear based incentives, and I hate them. I mean, it's such a stands for any kind of fear based incentives. But the fact of the matter is that we see it does. It does effect change, right. So you've seen large corporations in organizations in educational institutions who have made the changes because they were forced to as a result of those lawsuits. I don't like it. I don't think anybody likes to be quarter, you know, put into a corner and then have to fight out. It just gives accessibility and disabilities a bad name overall. But it is effective. Set Michael Hingson 35:36 offer, marketing, fear based marketing is all around us. I mean, turn on a television, and you hear commercials, like your check engine light is going to turn red at some point. And then it's going to be too late. You have to get our car warranty. Now I'm in fear marketing is all around us. Mike Paciello 35:56 Yeah, that's true. And I work separately. It is ironic, because it is kind of ironic that you're talking about that, because we are kind of talking about messaging, and marketing. It's one of the reasons why would I built web able, one of the things that I really wanted to focus on was trust based marketing, that anyone that I did business with, has to has to be truthful in everything that they say and everything that they do. And so I've worked really hard at that focus, I'm actually updating our pages right now to add another set of value statements associated with trust, and in truthful marketing, because I believe it's ironic my drive here is to make sure that people with disabilities and consumers with disabilities, you know, what they're being told, or what they're being sold, is, you know, an accurate reflection of what your product can or cannot do. So or what a service company or a service based company says they can and will do, because I believe, frankly, speaking, very analogous to the lawyer, you know, the English face lawyer scenario, is I believe that there that that individuals with disabilities, not unlike the elderly community are often take advantage, taking advantage of, because they don't know everything that's going on it, you know, their disability puts me into a situation where they, they, they often are not aware of what the true motivations of a corporation or organization really are. Michael Hingson 37:38 Right. And it's, it says an important for those of us in the disability community to understand corporate dynamics, and do as much as we can to become a part of the corporate world, because change does have to come from within, and it won't come unless we help bring it about and unless we work as hard as we possibly can to get other allies on the inside. But I still think ultimately, it's it's going to require that mindset shift. And I'm, I'm not convinced that it needs to be a costly thing to bring about accessibility, especially if you create a native way to make it happen right from the outset. Then you're building it into the cost of doing business, which is what Apple did, of course, with the iPhone, and the iPod and the technologies that are in the Mike Paciello 38:37 Mac voiceover voiceover right. And then voiceover, Michael Hingson 38:41 it's a cost of doing business. And I'm not even sure I totally like that. But it's, it's okay. It's a cost of doing business to make sure everyone can use the product. And I think that's a reasonable thing to do. But that's why I think that they, they need to take that last step. And get to the point of recognizing that part of that same cost of doing business has to be to say, to developers, you've got to have some sort of basic amount of accessibility, just like we do with the with the iPhone and the iPad and the Mac itself, because you're leaving people out. The The problem is that Apple put itself in that position by being a policing agency for what goes into apps and how apps work. I understand. I don't even I haven't looked lately, but I understand that if you create a piece of software that looks like it has a Windows desktop, that was true of Windows 10. Anyway, Apple wouldn't release it in the app store because it didn't look abolition often look to Windows II and of course their competitors. They have the ability to make and they do make decisions based on what they choose. Mike Paciello 40:02 Yeah, yeah, there's no no no doubt about that, again, businesses are in the business of doing business. Right. And, and, and that's why we have things, you know, like trademarks and copyright and, and patent infringement and patents, and, you know, all of that it's all proprietary, proprietary systems closed open. This that's, that is the world that we that we live in today is as as we started, as you said, from the beginning, the sad part of all of this is that in that the decision makers, the architects, the designers, are not really truly thinking about accessibility and building an infinite start. Michael Hingson 40:44 And it would make it just and it's not that hard to do. If they would do it. Tell me about the web accessibility initiative a little bit. Mike Paciello 40:53 Gosh, sure. Well, I'll tell you, as much as I know, I mean, I haven't. I've been on the fringes of it more or less for the last 15 years or so. But I'll tell you the, the interesting story about the about the way is that I and I was working as a volunteer, I was working at digital and working as a volunteer to kind of with MIT, in the WCC to just kind of build some content, leads, you know, email lists, you know, some some resource information, and just keep it there for accessibility. Organizations like trace ad, which then under Greg Vanderheiden, was at the University of Wisconsin, now down at University of Maryland, Baltimore, I think that's where they're at. And in WGBH, here in Boston, under Larry Goldberg's directorship in cast, they also were organizations that were kind of pulling together these resources around around the web. And so while I was there, I came in contact with a few key people like Daniel da, and of course, Tim Berners. Lee, I was working closely with with Uri Rybicki before he passed the 96. In others, Dave Raggett, just a few other people that were there, in ultimately, you know, we started talking about, you know, can we do something with this. But at the same time, conversations were being carried on with with the National Science Foundation is Department of Education, and a couple of European consortiums, including tide. And what happened was, Tim, as I understand it was approached by either Vice President Gore, or President Clinton at at that particular time said, hey, look, would with the W three C, would you guys be interested in kind of building a project around people disabilities that access to the web? And Tim came back to myself DlG Villar a dragon and said, Hey, do you guys think that we could do this, but would this be something that we could do and ultimately, that led to us putting together a plan and a proposal for an initiative at the time was called the web accessibility project or whap. And I never liked it. Never like, you know, from a marketing standpoint, you know, a branding simple, I just knew it wasn't gonna work. So when we decided that we were going to launch it in 1997, Danielle, and Danielle and I went back and forth, okay, what can we name this whole thing? And I came up with way Wi Fi. That was marketable, it was easy to say and easy to brand. And Daniel liked it. And and we were back in 1997. Now at the I think it What was it? Like everybody, I think it was the sixth, sixth or seventh. Why would conference, I think the seventh I want to say seven, but even six. And I've got my stuff right over here on my other shelf. I can't see it right now. But we launched it there. It's at Stanford and see in Santa Clara. And that's that led to, to the launch of the initiative. We got funding, US government funding matching funds from MIT in matching funds from the tide initiative for three years. So we built a three year business plan for it. Ultimately, I at that time, actually, I changed jobs and Dale Yuri had passed away 96 It's now 1997. And I was the executive director of the European ski and sky foundation. So under that notion, I went out and helped help lead and build the the Web Accessibility Initiative Program Office. And ultimately that led to us hiring Judy Brewer. Who was in Massachusetts, it had been very well known for her activity with. With her boy, I can't remember the name of the organization was I want to say the mass mass association for disabilities. But she had led the effort to requiring Microsoft to ship Windows, Windows 95, with certain accessibility features into it. And so she was a great hire, you know, to leave the office, I went back off and eventually left the OSI Foundation, and started up my own company TPG. Michael Hingson 45:43 And now you've since fairly recently sold TPG, right? Mike Paciello 45:49 Today, it's already been for almost five years. Michael Hingson 45:54 What did TPG do? What what did you form the company to do? Mike Paciello 45:59 Yes, so I, what I really wanted to do was forming a professional services organization, company that helped make web web applications and software, regardless of the platform, usable and accessible to people disabilities. So I built an initial team, we went through several iterations of the team, before I could pull the right group of people together. But ultimately, that's, that's, that's what we did. And that's how I sold it became one of the most, if not the most well known brand, in software, professional services around web and software accessibility in the world. And that led to the company at the time, was VFO. Now now known as Despero, and they acquired they acquired TPG is specifically for that we had the largest bring not the largest company, but the largest brand most well done. It was because we were built on a foundation of trust. Every client that we had, came to us by referrals, we never did outbound sales ever. And, and we had lots of lots of repeat business enough to keep you know, ultimately, I think when I saw that we had about 40 or so people on staff in some of the world's best, best of the world in this business. Now my drop it in their knees, because they're all there are there. So they've gone off and formed their own companies. You know, I find I find that a little bit of a legacy. They you know, a car girls would often in antennen, and now he's with level access. Leone, Watson went out and started petrological. And she's got, you know, seven or eight members of her key team are all former TPG employees. Sara Horton is going off. She's doing her thing. So and I've gone off and done my so there's, there's been a lot of it's kind of interesting, a lot of breakout companies from from TPG. Michael Hingson 47:52 And now you're doing web ABL. Mike Paciello 47:56 And now I'm doing web ABL. Yeah, I've kind of labeled right. Web evil and evil docs. Michael Hingson 48:02 And you're married. So you have three jobs. What's that? And you're married? So you have three jobs? Mike Paciello 48:08 I probably have five because yeah, there's that parent tells me I have like five jobs now. So yeah, we're able to able to access web people. It really started out at TPG. It was my idea to kind of build a marketing, but I wanted to honestly, I built a news aggregator which the front of it is front end of it is a news aggregator. But ultimately, I wanted to be a digital marketing social networking marketing company strictly within the context of of, of accessibility and disability. And that's, that's where it's at. Michael Hingson 48:47 And what Able Docs? Mike Paciello 48:49 Able Docs is a right now, it is primarily known for documentation accessibility across the board. So it's not just PDFs its word, its Excel, PowerPoint. We're dealing with Google Docs. But it is a company that is involved in digital accessibility. We've recently branched out and started building on our, our own web accessibility services. So we did an acquisition of web key it out in Perth, Australia, so that we brought them in. And we're buying some tools and we're building some business long there. So so I've been helping Adam Spencer's, the CEO there at Apple docs. Adam has a long history in documentation accessibility, and they're one of the world leaders in that. So I'm here to help them build their USN branch. Michael Hingson 49:43 Pretty exciting, isn't it? Mike Paciello 49:44 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's startup all over again. So it's kind of fun from that standpoint, but a lot of hard work Michael Hingson 49:52 well, and doing it in the COVID era. Well, you get to do it at home. So there's, there's there's lots of time do it. So at least you just don't have to travel as much right now. Mike Paciello 50:03 Honestly, that's the thing I missed the most. I love travel. Yeah, I do too. I love traveling. I love speaking, I will go no everywhere and anywhere to do that, you know, to kind of carry the mission. So I missed that the most. Michael Hingson 50:17 I I've never really minded being on airplanes, although I understand the whole issue with COVID right now, but I've never really had a problem with it. I enjoy traveling. I haven't been to a place yet that I couldn't find some things to like about it. And I've enjoyed everywhere I've gotten to go and all the people I've gotten to speak to and speak with and educate. Yeah, I miss it as well. Mike Paciello 50:42 Yeah. Well, you and I saw each other down in Washington, DC. We do in Baltimore. So the NFB and, and then m&a Bling. But I right after that COVID started to break out again with the Omicron variant. So I stopped all travel. So right now and I've done probably five or six other events since then. Right now, if all things work out, I'll be at CSUN. Michael Hingson 51:09 Tell me about that. You're going to be the keynote speaker this year? Mike Paciello 51:13 Yeah, I was kind of surprised. I got a call from from from CSUN. And they asked me there their executive director asked me if I would see any uploading, asked me if I would consider I was really shocked. To be honest with you. I haven't been at CSUN. In you know, in four years right now. Yeah, in four years. Because my first wife passed away. And I was like, at home for I retired after I sold TPG. I retired for, you know, for the better part of four and a half years. And you know, was caretaking for Kim. And I really couldn't travel. So I did go to C center. I've been to CSUN since 2018. Yeah, so be four years now. So when they call when I can't think it now just lost her name. Oh, see any? Sorry. I went didn't see anyone see any called me. I was really surprised. But she asked me if I would consider giving the keynote and, you know, see son to me. See, says where I got my start in terms of networking and meeting people and getting involved in the community, not just on the national level, but on the international level. And that I think really spearheaded an awful lot for me in just about every other company that that's out there. So it holds a very dear in your place to me, Harry Murphy's the director, the founder of CSUN. He and I are close friends, even to this day. He retired over 10 years ago. And I served on I served on two advisory committees to to see some over the years. So when Sandy? Yeah. Well, she asked me, I said, Yeah, I'd be happy to. So I've got so Michael Hingson 53:04 so what are you going to talk about? Can you give us a hint? Well, the theme Mike Paciello 53:07 is trying to get make it a little bit interesting, intriguing accessibility users and the golden goose, why trust is a vital digital asset. So kind of goes with what you and I've been talking about what we've been talking about. We we in I did actually talk about this at m&a Bling. That I think there are four key attributes of our business in our industry that needs to be pervasive and promulgated and in founded, organizations and companies need to be fully immersed in. And that's innovation, collaboration, transparency, and trust. When those four attributes are built together, then then I think we come out with a winning value proposition. And so I'm planning on taking using a trilogy of three stories, life stories, and bring them all together to show how they work out that way and the value behind them. Michael Hingson 54:12 Yeah, I've been in sales a long time having started while working for Kurzweil and taking. Actually, my first foray into sales was the Dale Carnegie sales course, which was a 10 week program once a week with live lessons and then other things during the week, but in Massachusetts, and the the interesting thing, and the overriding message that was constantly addressed during that course was that when you're selling, you're really advising you're, you're helping people and you're establishing a rapport and if you You're doing it just to drive somebody to get your product no matter what, then you're not selling the right way it is all about trust. Mike Paciello 55:08 Yeah, absolutely. There's no doubt. Well, I think it's all for these areas, I really, you know, especially because we're in high tech in a digital economy and digital society. So innovation is critical, right? Working together, right? dispelling the myths associated with with competition. And collaborating, I think is crucial, especially again, in our space, transparency, transparency, you know, organizations need to be, you know, transparent about what they can and can't do. This is one of I think, one of the, I don't know, I don't know exactly where to attribute it to. But this much, I do know that people with disabilities are more than happy to work with you or your organization, your company, they're there, they'll they're one of the first ones to jump on board, and help you to make things useful and accessible, right? Because it benefits that. But if you're not transparent with them, right, if you know, tell them what is what is truth, right? What my product can or can't do upfront, it worse, you, you know, you, you mark it, or you sell something that's not trustworthy, or truthful, you're gonna lose them as a community, and you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna get five bad vibes, because this is a very close knit community of individuals. So you've got to be transparent, it's okay to say, look, we've gone this far, I've done this much. Our plan is to go this far in over the next three, five years is what we're going to do. People with disabilities will, will will support you, they know you're making some inroads towards accessibility. They applaud the effort now, okay, so they see your plan for the future. As long as you stay true to that mission. They're all in, and you'll get all the support in the world that you need from them. Which is why trust is so important. Because once you break those first three, and you break the trust, then you got nothing. Michael Hingson 57:14 In 2016, the Nielsen Company did a study of brand loyalty. I don't know all the details of how it got commissioned, or whatever. But one of the main points of the study was that persons with disabilities tend to be very brand loyal to those companies that include them want to work with them want to make their products available to them. And the brand loyalty is extremely strong because of that, which really goes along with exactly what you're saying. Mike Paciello 57:48 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I remember when Jacob did that, that study. I think I may have even been involved in it some at some level. But yeah, that's it's absolutely true. I think people with disabilities, with maybe the strict exception of possibly elderly individuals are the most free and loyal community of individuals population of individuals ever, period. When it works. Sorry, you're not going to, you know, people, I mean, you know, this, people are Jaws users use JAWS because it works. Right, right. Even though Jaws is flawed, JAWS has has bugs in it, right. Just like every other piece of it I've ever I've ever seen. I've never seen a bug free piece of software at all technology. But once users got into it and started using it, it became very, very clear that this is going to be even though they've got to pay for it. Compared to say, and, VA, right. They're very, very, very strongly loyal to it. And that's been true about all 80. Frankly, Michael Hingson 58:58 but NVDA is is catching up NVDA has come a long way and is working better it is free, but it is still not Jaws know, at least in people's minds. And still not Yeah, Mike Paciello 59:12 nothing. Nothing is just me just, you know, Freedom owns 80% Plus that market. Right and in who have you seen over the years that have kind of gone by the wayside? Be You know, because they just churn market. Right. So Michael Hingson 59:30 and that will, that will be the case. As long as as you said, the trust is there. If if the sparrow breaks the trust ever, that's going to be a big problem. Mike Paciello 59:43 Yeah, I totally agree. I absolutely agree. They know it. I know it. And more importantly, all of the individuals have visual disabilities, the users know it. Michael Hingson 59:54 Yeah, no doubt about it. It's it's been that way and I've been using For a long, long time and have watched how they've grown and developed, and they've done some things that that have been challenging, but in the long run, it works, as you said, and that's what really is important. Mike Paciello 1:00:13 Yeah, yep. No doubt about it, Mike. Michael Hingson 1:00:16 Well, we have been going on for an hour How time flies when we're having fun. And I want to really thank you, if people want to reach out to you, how might they do that, learn more about the things you're doing and so on. Mike Paciello 1:00:30 Well, if they want to learn about Web Able, if you get what we're doing, I mean, we are we're on a sponsorship drive right now. So we're really looking for sponsors going into 2022. So you can send me email at M as in Mike Paciello, P a c, i e l l o at webable.com if they want to contact me at Able Docs for documentation, accessibility and even professional services around software and Web. And you can send me email at mpaciello@abledocs.com. Michael Hingson 1:01:02 Well, we've been we've been working together now for what since September, and October, and m&a billing and all that. And I know you're talking with folks that accessiBe, and there's a lot of exciting stuff going on there. And hopefully, we'll all be able to work together and make this a little bit more of an inclusive world. And hopefully, we'll be able to change mindsets, and get people to maybe look at the world a little bit differently than they're used to, and maybe look at it in a little bit broader and more inclusive way. Mike Paciello 1:01:34 I totally agree. Totally agree. Michael Hingson 1:01:38 Well, Mike, thanks very much for being here with us. And hopefully, you'll you'll have a chance and come back again. We'd love to have you back anytime. If you would have anything you want to talk about, then let us know. We'll try to catch the speech at CSUN. 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Blue Beetle and The Outlaws S1E3 - Suddenly

Dice Comics

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 28, 2022 124:59

Content Warning: This episode contains light audio SFX some viewers may nonetheless find someone discomforting. These include a punch, glass breaking, laser blasts, and various other sound effects. KGBeast! Metallo! The Children of Bane! Smokeshow! Deathstroke! Tuppence Terror! Chakram! Parasite! The Brain! Monsieur Mallah! Despero! Reverse-Flash! Only ONE of these villains ISN'T in this issue! But there's no supervillain on Earth Headphone Emoji that can scare Letitia Luthor...except maybe her ex! It's an interrogation turned prison fight - with the Outlaws at the center! Music composed by Indi Tan. Dice Comics is not affiliated with DC Comics or Warner Media. This is a free fan podcast, created with love for these characters and the DCU, and not for commercial distribution or profit. Dice Comics is an actual play of Masks: A New Generation, by Brendan Conway, published by Magpie Games. Subscribe to Dice Comics wherever you find us, and follow us on Twitter @DiceComics. https://twitter.com/DiceComics

MOS 161 - The Flash Armageddon

Maid of Steel: A Supergirl Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 20, 2021 104:34

Welcome back to Maid of Steel - post Supergirl!! We're talking about The Flash!! No, we haven't jumped shows or heroes, we're back to discuss the first five episodes of The Flash Season 8 - "Armageddon." Why, you ask? So glad you did! Armageddon involves a kind of crossover event within the Arrowverse that includes many of our favorite heroes and villains. Among those is our very own Alex Danvers / The Sentinel! So, let's run down the plot summaries of the five episodes and summarize the Alex aspect of things, shall we? Yes, we shall! Part 1: When a powerful alien threat arrives on Earth under mysterious circumstances, Barry, Iris and the rest of the team are pushed to their limits in a desperate battle to save the world. Part 2: Despero warns The Flash that great tragedies will lead to Armageddon; Barry doubles down on proving his innocence, but a devastating revelation pushes him to seek counsel from Black Lightning. Part 3: Barry meets Black Lightning at the Hall of Justice after things take a dire turn with Despero; Iris suspects something is off with Despero's vision of the future so she seeks help from a powerful ally. Part 4: Barry is shocked when Eobard Thawne returns in the most unexpected way, and with a tie to a loved one. Damien Darhk offers advice to Barry but there is a catch. An epic battle begins with The Reverse-Flash against The Flash and Team Flash. Part 5: Barry must decide whether to let his greatest enemy die, or save his life. As for Alex and The Sentinel, she is consulted when Team Flash interacts with Despero to find out anything the DEO knows about Despero's species, which is not much. We then catch up with Alex at the celebration event on the impending nuptials of Eobard Thawne and Iris West. When Barry Allen shows up on the scene (as Reverse Flash) everyone goes into battle mode, including the Sentinel. Alex stays to hang with Team Flash to understand why Barry is here and what kind of trouble he might be trying to cause and takes it upon herself to try to navigate the potential relationship between two members of Team Flash, Allegra and Chester. She is successful in bringing the two together with the help of the Paragon of Humanity - Ryan Choi. And, that's about it. When Eobard is discovered to have created a Reverse Flashpoint most of everything in Parts 2-4 of this event are...negated. Gotta love the time shenanigans on The Flash!! Summary: This Armageddon event was highly advertised with amazing visuals and the potential for some very cool crossovers but ultimately was uneven in its story telling and the heightened expectations fell short. As we mention in the podcast, this is sooooooooooooooo much better than what The Flash Season 7 delivered so we'll see what the rest of the Season delivers beginning in March of 2022!

Flash TV Talk 8X05 Armageddon Part 5

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2021 49:27

Barry reunites with Joe, but the two are interrupted by Darhk whose erasure is being delayed due to his Time Stone. Thawne attacks CCPD, but is stopped by Barry and Mia Queen, who has come searching for her brother William Clayton. Thawne asks Barry to save him from his own erasure and is taken to S.T.A.R. Labs. Despero returns and urges Barry to let Thawne die, but Joe convinces Barry and Iris to let him live. In response, Despero takes control of Mia and has her hold off Team Flash while he threatens to destroy Central City to take out Thawne. Iris and Cecile help Mia regain control while Barry deduces that Despero was the despot on Kalanor. With technology from Chester, Barry depowers Despero and sends him away. Barry then drains Thawne's speed to prevent his erasure and has him remanded to A.R.G.U.S. custody. During a celebration, Iris helps Mia with a lead on William and convinces her to visit Felicity Smoak for help. Darhk gives his Time Stone to Joe and bids farewell to his daughter Nora who appears in his place and is consoled by Joe. In CCPD, the timeline changes to show Bart and Nora in a photograph with Eddie Thawne from 2014.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Scarlet Velocity #805: Armageddon part 5

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2021

"Armageddon part 5" - In the dramatic finale, Flash must save Eobard Thawne and stop Despero while making some very tough decisions about being a hero on Scarlet Velocity: A Flash Podcast!

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Scarlet Velocity #805: Armageddon part 5

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2021 60:45

"Armageddon part 5" concludes the epic crossover as Thawne confronts Team Flash with the ultimate question: should they save him before he dies or finally be rid of the villain forever. As they struggle to do what's best, Joe shuts the debate down with the kind of wisdom we have come to expect. But Despero doesn't agree with their decision and is willing to destroy Central City to get his way. Can Barry stop the powerful nemesis and be the hero at the same time? Jay and Josh sport some yellow Chucks on this week's episode of Scarlet Velocity: A Flash Podcast!

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Flash TV Talk 8X04 Armageddon Part 4

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 10, 2021 60:27

Barry finds that the timeline changed and he is now the Reverse-Flash. Thawne reveals that he killed Joe and framed Barry for the attacks in Central City, then traveled back in time to kill Barry as a child and later became The Flash. At midnight, the Reverse-Flashpoint timeline will solidify and Barry will disappear. He partners with this timeline's Damien Darhk and plots revenge against Thawne, but Darhk ultimately learns Barry's true nature and helps Barry restore the original timeline upon learning that his daughter Nora Darhk is alive in it. Meanwhile, Iris is visited by Batwoman while she struggles to write her vows to Thawne. Alex helps Chester and Allegra admit their love for one another, and also convinces Choi to love again. The speed required for Barry to return to 2021 will cause Armageddon through extinction-level natural disasters, but he decides to follow through. Barry visits Iris to say goodbye and is intercepted by Thawne, but Iris lets Barry escape. Thawne chases him while Darhk holds off Frost, Chillblaine, Ryan Choi (as The Atom), and Sentinel. As Barry returns to 2021, Thawne's changes are undone and Barry tells Despero to check 2031 for himself. Thawne arrives in the 2021 Time Vault as the Reverse-Flash and activates Gideon to aid him.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Scarlet Velocity #804: Armageddon part 4

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Play Episode Listen Later Dec 10, 2021 65:06

"Armageddon part 4" begins with Barry discovering why 2031 is not what he expected. Thawne has created a Reverse Flashpoint taking away everything Barry had and making our hero the villain. Now Barry has to team up with Damien Dahrk to erase Thawne's actions and restore the timeline. But doing so could very well cause the Armageddon Despero predicted. Jay and Josh reverse each other's lives only to discover they were pretty much the same anyway on this week's episode of Scarlet Velocity: A Flash Podcast!

Scarlet Velocity #804: Armageddon part 4

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Play Episode Listen Later Dec 10, 2021

"Armageddon part 3" - Barry travels to 2031 to find the truth behind Despero's prediction, but it is the 'Reverse' of what he expected on Scarlet Velocity: A Flash Podcast!

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The Flash ”Armageddon, Part 3”

Black Girl Couch Reviews

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2021 62:07

(Re-upload) CW The Flash: Episode 3 "Armageddon, Part 3" Barry meets Black Lightning at the Hall of Justice after things take a dire turn with Despero; Iris suspects something is off with Despero's vision of the future so she seeks help from a powerful ally. Scorecard 9.4/10 Feedback : blackgirlcouch@gmail.com (audio MP4 or written) Twitter: Black Girl_Couch Tumblr: slowlandrogynousmiracle

#405: Beebo Saves Locke and Key, the Juggernaut, and Christmas

The Superhero Show Show

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 6, 2021 83:01

The Superhero Show Show #405Beebo Saves Locke and Key, the Juggernaut, and ChristmasIt's time for Beebo Saves Christmas and a Locke and Key wrap-up, on an all-new The Superhero Show Show!With Cassie on the run from the police again, Mike and Ryan are forced to get in the holiday mood by themselves. Well...they do have the help of their best friend Beebo! For reasons still unknown, The CW decided to release an hour-long Beebo Christmas special this week, and Mike and Ryan are reviewing it! They are also wrapping up their coverage of the second season of Locke and Key. So much to do.But that's not all! The Taste Buds also return to XTASmania, and check in on the third part of the epic Dark Phoenix saga. This is a very special episode of X-Men: The Animated Series, as it may be the most famous one ever! It's the one that got the crap memed out of it when the internet first started and became so big that the line "I'm the Juggernaut, bitch" was actually used in a movie. Crazy!All of that, plus reviews and discussions on Fear the Walking Dead, The Flash, Hawkeye, Hit-Monkey, Riverdale, Super Crooks, Walking Dead: World Beyond, and Young Justice: Phantoms!EPISODES DISCUSSED:BEEBO SAVES CHRISTMASWatch Beebo Saves Christmas on The CWWhen an efficiency-obsessed elf decides that Christmas would run better without Santa, Beebo and his friends travel to the North Pole to help discover what truly makes Chrismas meaningful.FEAR THE WALKING DEAD #707Watch Fear the Walking Dead on AMC+When baby Mo gets sick, Morgan successfully pleads for entry into Strand's Tower; Morgan quickly learns even Strand's benevolence has its limitsTHE FLASH #803Watch The Flash on The CW"Armageddon, Part 3" - (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (TV- PG, V) (HDTV)BLACK LIGHTNING, RYAN WILDER, ALEX DANVERS AND RYAN CHOI APPEAR - Barry (Grant Gustin) meets Black Lightning (guest star Cress Williams) at the Hall of Justice after things take a dire turn with Despero (guest star Tony Curran). Iris (Candice Patton) suspects something is off with Despero's vision of the future so she seeks help from a powerful ally. Javicia Leslie, Chyler Leigh and Osric Chau guest star. Chris Peppe directed the episode written by Sam Chalsen (#803). Original airdate 11/30/2021. Every episode of THE FLASH will be available to stream on The CW App and CWTV.com the day after broadcast for free and without a subscription, log-in or authentication required.HAWKEYE #103Watch Hawkeye on Disney PlusAfter escaping a new threat, Clint and Kate join forces against an expanding criminal conspiracy.HIT-MONKEY #105Watch Hit-Monkey on HuluAfter the Yakuza put a price on Monkey's head, he and Bryce must face off against a who's who of the city's most colorful assassins, anSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/yourpopfilter)

Scarlet Velocity #803: Armageddon part 3

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Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2021 67:08

"Armageddon part 3" finds Barry hiding out in the Hall of Justice with Jefferson Pierce. He believes it's time to enact the Injustice protocol. The League set it up in case any of our heroes went rogue and became a danger to the world. Black Lightning is the only one that can help sever Flash from the Speed Force, but he's not entirely convinced that it's the right decision. Meanwhile, Cecile is determined to find Barry but doesn't want to hear Iris's theory that Joe isn't really dead. Instead the determined attorney calls upon the help of the Top to combine their psychic abilities to track down their missing teammate. And Iris works with Allegra to discover something shocking about Joe's fateful day. The only option left to solve all of this chaos is for Barry to travel to the future and find out what's really going on. But what he finds may push him to the brink. Jay and Josh try to remove each other's powers only to discover they don't have any on this week's episode of Scarlet Velocity: A Flash Podcast!

Flash TV Talk 8X3 Armageddon Part 3

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Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2021 52:24

Barry asks Jefferson to permanently remove his powers. He begins to, but stops when Barry mentions Despero. Barry lashes out and the two fight, but Jefferson convinces him to stand down. Meanwhile, Iris suspects that Barry was framed and that Joe's supposed death was a set-up. At the train station where Joe was struck, she and Allegra discover a unique set of coincidences that suggest foul play. She also begins to see temporal particles, so she meets with Deon Owens, who discovers that someone tapped into the Negative Still Force to change the timeline and kill Joe. Concurrently, Cecile coerces Rosalind Dillon into helping her find Barry. In order to improve Chester's process, Dillon tells Cecile to suppress her grief, but Caitlin Snow convinces her to embrace her love instead. Despero turns on the particle accelerator, absorbs its power, and attacks Cecile's group. He learns Barry's location and travels there, but is held off by Jefferson, Iris, and Deon. Deon informs Barry of his findings and sends him to 2031, where he witnesses a future Iris celebrating her marriage to Eobard Thawne alongside Team Flash, Alex Danvers, Ryan Choi, and Ryan Wilder, who are unhappy to see him.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Episode 94: The Flash aka A Barry Bad Day

One More Thing

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2021 109:35

The Flash, season 8, episode 2. Armageddon starts to pick up steam. Barry is determined to not lose his mind while Despero bides his time. Things go very badly for Barry on all sides including a shocking (or not so shocking) reveal. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/one-more/message

The Flash Podcast Season 8 - Episode 3: "Armageddon, Part 3"

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2021 95:18

On this week's episode of The Flash Podcast, Andy, Tatiana, Breeze, and Lacy went LIVE to cover part 3 of Armageddon on DC TV Podcasts' YouTube channel! Joined by special guest Vanessa Shark from Naomi Podcast, "Armageddon, Part 3" brings Black Lightning into the story as Barry begins to break and needs Jefferson to go through with the Injustice Protocol. In addition to that, the gang read listener feedback and email about "Armageddon, Part 2." That and more on this week's episode of The Flash Podcast! THE FLASH “Armageddon, Part 3” — (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (TV- PG, V) (HDTV) BLACK LIGHTNING, RYAN WILDER, ALEX DANVERS AND RYAN CHOI APPEAR – Barry (Grant Gustin) meets Black Lightning (guest star Cress Williams) at the Hall of Justice after things take a dire turn with Despero (guest star Tony Curran). Iris (Candice Patton) suspects something is off with Despero's vision of the future so she seeks help from a powerful ally. Javicia Leslie, Chyler Leigh and Osric Chau guest star. Chris Peppe directed the episode written by Sam Chalsen (#803). Original airdate 11/30/2021. Every episode of THE FLASH will be available to stream on The CW App and CWTV.com the day after broadcast for free and without a subscription, log-in or authentication required. Don't forget that The Flash Podcast will be LIVE to cover all the first five episodes every Wednesday which will include special guests from the other podcasts! The Flash Podcast Armageddon Live Show - Part 4: https://youtu.be/zDEmV5FuKmE The Flash Podcast Armageddon Live Show - Part 5: https://youtu.be/nVubgMhuUEc Find The Flash Podcast on: Social Media: Facebook – @TheFlashPodcast – Instagram Subscribe: Apple Podcasts – Stitcher Radio – YouTube – DC TV Podcasts – Google Podcasts – iHeartRadio – Spotify – Amazon Music – Podchaser – TuneIn – Podcast Index Contact: TheFlashPodcast@gmail.com Support: TeePublic Store

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Flash TV Talk 8X2 Armageddon Part 2

Super Tuesday Recap - Comic Book & TV Show Reviews

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 29, 2021 51:28

Despero informs Barry that he will lose himself to madness. The next day, Barry investigates an insane security guard, but Kramer forces him to turn in his badge due to a federal investigation suggesting that he was a CCPD mole for Joseph Carver. Later, S.T.A.R. Labs is raided and shut down after a radiation spike, so Barry has Gideon erase everything (including herself) while Chester and Allegra move their tech. Meanwhile, Alex Danvers helps Team Flash research Despero's home planet of Kalanor and his power source, the Flame of Py'tar. Allegra learns that Frost asked Chester to build a weapon to harm Despero despite his pacifism. Later, Barry goes after psychic meta-criminal Xotar, but she causes him to go insane and attack Team Flash, though he is able to place the power-dampening cuffs on her during a jewelry heist. Barry suggests they celebrate with Joe West, but Team Flash informs him that he died six months prior. News footage shows Barry attacking residents of Central City after Xotar had been depowered, but Barry does not remember this or Joe's death. Despero arrives to kill Barry, but Team Flash allows him to escape to the Hall of Justice, where he meets with Jefferson Pierce and asks him for help.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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CW Flash ”Armageddon, Part 2”

Black Girl Couch Reviews

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 29, 2021 71:10

CW The Flash Season 8 Episode 2 "Armageddon, Part 2" Despero warns The Flash that great tragedies will lead to Armageddon; Barry doubles down on proving his innocence, but a devastating revelation pushes him to seek counsel from Black Lightning. Scorecard 8.4/10 Feedback : blackgirlcouch@gmail.com (audio MP4 or written) Twitter: Black Girl_Couch Tumblr: slowlandrogynousmiracle

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#404: The Spirals and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune

The Superhero Show Show

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 29, 2021 82:40

The Superhero Show Show #404The Spirals and Arrows of Outrageous FortuneIt's Hawkeye time on The Superhero Show Show, plus the premiere of Super Crooks and more Will Hines!On an all-new, all-different Superhero Show Show, Cassie and Mike are gone for the holidays, so Ryan is left in the studio all by himself. Luckily, he was able to call his good friend Greg, from Movie of the Year! They go out to the alley behind the studio, and wake up their favorite dumpster raccoon Taylor to also be on the show! Star-studded! It's a good thing that this all-star team was brought together, because Jeremy Renner is on television! No, they're not discussing Mayor of Kingstown, silly. They are talking about the first two episodes of Hawkeye! Clint Barton is in a bind: he has to make it home for Christmas, but before that, he has to deal with Kate Bishop, the Tracksuit Mafia, LARPers, Echo, and so much more! Do Ryan, Greg, and Taylor think that Hawkeye achieves the heights of other Disney Plus shows, or is it just the StreEternals? Tune in and find out.Plus, Ryan continues his conversation with Will Hines, and Comedy Bang Bang fans will want to tune in for this one! Instead of asking Will about what other television shows he watches, they do a deep dive on the day Stanley Chamberlain came to be. What happened that glorious morning when a lonely med student became involved in a satanist cult? What is it like to walk into the CBB studios with one character, and come out the other side with a different one?All of that, plus reviews and discussions about every other television show based on a comic book, including Young Justice: Phantoms, Hit-Monkey, Locke and Key, Fear the Walking Dead, Walking Dead: World Beyond, Legends of Tomorrow, Batwoman, Riverdale, The Flash, and Super Crooks! Simply too much show!!! EPISODES DISCUSSED:BATWOMAN #307Watch Batwoman on The CW"Pick Your Poison" - (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET) (TV-14, LV) (HDTV)DOUBLE TROUBLE - As Ryan's (Javicia Leslie) family dynamic grows more complicated, she also finds herself in the middle of a Bat Team stand-off between Luke (Camrus Johnson) and Mary (Nicole Kang). Meanwhile, Alice (Rachel Skarsten) finds a new sidekick to do her bidding. Also starring Nick Creegan and Robin Givens. Holly Dale directed the episode written by Kelly Ota and Emily Alonso (#307). Original airdate 11/24/21. Every episode of BATWOMAN will be available to stream on The CW App and CWTV.com the day after broadcast for free and without a subscription, log-in or authentication required.FEAR THE WALKING DEAD #706Watch Fear the Walking Dead on AMC+Morgan searches for Al, only to discover that he's not the only one looking for her, and that his search may have put a target on his own back.THE FLASH #802Watch The Flash on The CW"Armageddon, Part 2" - (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (TV- PG, V) (HDTV)THE FLASH SEEKS HELP FROM BLACK LIGHTNING - Despero (guest star Tony Curran) warns The Flash (Grant Gustin) that great tragedies will befall the speedster and cause him to lose his mind. Once that happens, Armageddon will begin. Determined to prove Despero wrong, Barry doubles down on proving his innocence but a devastatSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/yourpopfilter)

Legends of Tomorrow S7E7 & The Flash S8E2 Review

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 29, 2021 41:54

Kriss and Dpalm are back to review the latest episodes of Legends of Tomorrow and The Flash. On Legends, we see the trend continuing of the Legends being stuck in history and trying to keep a low profile but not pulling it off. The Legends are doing the thing that's always talked about in time travel. If you go back in time and see injustices happening, do you just sit back and not do anything because you need to "protect the timeline" or do you do the morally correct thing? We also see that evil Gideon has been busy and has created a team of evil robot Legends so that should be fun to deal with. On the Flash side our suspicious are confirmed. Joe West is dead. We're not the only ones just receiving that news as Barry is shocked to learn that Joe's been dead for 6 months. Of course for Despero this just just more evidence that Barry is going bad. Barry also lost his job because he's under investigation and Star Labs is condemned. To us, this all smells like Thawne. Thawne can't beat Barry one-on-one now and Thawne causing everything around Barry to collapse feels right up his alley. Timestamps: 16:51: The Flash Season 8 Episode 2 Review Kriss and Dpalm record the Mailbag at the end of every month. If you want to send in your own questions and thoughts, email us: Mailbag@MTRNetwork.Net Like what you hear? Subscribe so you don't miss an episode! Follow us on Twitter: @Dpalm66 @InsanityReport @TheMTRNetwork Our shirts are now on TeePublic: https://teepublic.com/stores/mtr-network Want more podcast greatness? Sign up for a MTR Premium Account!

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Legends of Tomorrow S7E7 & The Flash S8E2 Review - Super Tuesday Recap

MTR Network Main Feed

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 29, 2021 41:54

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Scarlet Velocity #802: Armageddon part 2

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Play Episode Listen Later Nov 26, 2021 62:27

In "Armageddon part 2" Barry has very little time to prove to the alien Despero that he won't lose his mind and destroy the world. When a bank guard begins to lose his mind, the team thinks it may be connected to the scenario Despero has described. After discovering that a powerful telepathic meta named Xotar is responsible, Barry goes after her, only to find himself attacking his friend and destroying his home. And then, without warning, STAR Labs is ordered to be closed down and demolished. Without a home or a clue as to Barry's odd blackouts, it looks like Despero may have been correct. Jay and Josh light the Flame of Py'tar for their Thanksgiving guests on this week's episode of Scarlet Velocity: A Flash Podcast!

Scarlet Velocity #802: Armageddon part 2

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 26, 2021

"Armageddon part 2" - Flash tries to prove to Despero that won't lose his mind, but his mind may not be cooperating on Scarlet Velocity: A Flash Podcast!

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The Flash Podcast Season 8 – Episode 2: “Armageddon, Part 2”

DC TV Podcasts

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 25, 2021 99:59

On this week's episode of The Flash Podcast, Andy, Tatiana, Breeze, and Lacy went LIVE to cover part 2 of Armageddon on DC TV Podcasts' YouTube channel! For “Armageddon, Part 2,” the story continues with where they left off as Barry tries to prove Despero wrong, only for things to take a darker, twistier turn. […] The post The Flash Podcast Season 8 – Episode 2: “Armageddon, Part 2” appeared first on DC TV Podcasts.

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The Flash Podcast Season 8 - Episode 2: "Armageddon, Part 2"

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 25, 2021 99:59

On this week's episode of The Flash Podcast, Andy, Tatiana, Breeze, and Lacy went LIVE to cover part 2 of Armageddon on DC TV Podcasts' YouTube channel! For "Armageddon, Part 2," the story continues with where they left off as Barry tries to prove Despero wrong, only for things to take a darker, twistier turn. In addition to that, the gang read listener feedback and email about "Armageddon, Part 2." That and more on this week's episode of The Flash Podcast! "THE FLASH “Armageddon, Part 2” — (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (TV- PG, V) (HDTV) THE FLASH SEEKS HELP FROM BLACK LIGHTNING – Despero (guest star Tony Curran) warns The Flash (Grant Gustin) that great tragedies will befall the speedster and cause him to lose his mind. Once that happens, Armageddon will begin. Determined to prove Despero wrong, Barry doubles down on proving his innocence but a devastating revelation from Iris (Candice Patton) pushes him to the edge and sends him to seek counsel from Black Lightning (guest star Cress Williams). Menhaj Huda directed the episode written by Jonathan Butler & Gabriel Garza (#802). Original airdate 11/23/2021. Every episode of THE FLASH will be available to stream on The CW App and CWTV.com the day after broadcast for free and without a subscription, log- in or authentication required." Don't forget that The Flash Podcast will be LIVE to cover all the first five episodes every Wednesday starting on November 17, which will include special guests from the other podcasts! The Flash Podcast Armageddon Live Show - Part 3: https://youtu.be/gOXx5bbnsrk The Flash Podcast Armageddon Live Show - Part 4: https://youtu.be/zDEmV5FuKmE The Flash Podcast Armageddon Live Show - Part 5: https://youtu.be/nVubgMhuUEc Find The Flash Podcast on: Social Media: Facebook – @TheFlashPodcast – Instagram Subscribe: Apple Podcasts – Stitcher Radio – YouTube – DC TV Podcasts – Google Podcasts – iHeartRadio – Spotify – Amazon Music – Podchaser – TuneIn – Podcast Index Contact: TheFlashPodcast@gmail.com Support: TeePublic Store

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Scarlet Velocity #801: Armageddon part 1

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Play Episode Listen Later Nov 19, 2021 68:28

It's "Armageddon (part 1)" when a mysterious alien named Despero appears with the death of the Flash at the top of his agenda. Just when it seems the team is sitting comfortably, the Royal Flush gang is back to their old ways, but have stepped it up in a more dangerous way. Never fear, Team Flash is on the case. And they have a visitor too. Ray Palmer is in town getting chaperoned (and fanboy gushed) by Chester. When Despero appears and tries to kill Flash, Ray reluctantly suits up and helps Barry stop him, at least temporarily. The shape-changing baddie gives Flash a reprieve to prove himself. Jay and Josh return and are hoping you'll invest in their startup company on the season 8 premiere of Scarlet Velocity: A Flash Podcast!

Scarlet Velocity #801: Armageddon part 1

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 19, 2021

Flash teams up with the Atom in "Armageddon part 1" when Despero appears with the death of our hero on his mind for the premiere of Scarlet Velocity: A Flash Podcast!

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The Flash Podcast Season 8 - Episode 1: "Armageddon, Part 1"

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Play Episode Listen Later Nov 18, 2021 78:24

Welcome to The Flash Podcast season 8! On the premiere episode, Andy, Tatiana, and Lacy went LIVE to cover part 1 of Armageddon on DC TV Podcasts' YouTube channel! For "Armageddon, Part 1," the gang was joined by Keenon Walker from the Justice League Dark Podcast, to break down the first hour of The Flash's new event! As the story follows Team Flash several months later, Barry is confronted by DC's Despero, as he has come to Earth to kill the fastest man alive. Together with Ray Palmer, a.k.a. The Atom, The Flash tries to get to the bottom of why Despero wants Barry dead. In addition to that, the gang read listener feedback and email about "Armageddon, Part 1." That and more on this week's episode of The Flash Podcast! "THE FLASH"Armageddon, Part 1" - (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (TV- PG, LV) (HDTV)PART ONE OF THE ARMAGEDDON FIVE EPISODE EVENT - When a powerful alien threat arrives on Earth under mysterious circumstances, Barry (Grant Gustin), Iris (Candice Patton) and the rest of Team Flash are pushed to their limits in a desperate battle to save the world. But with time running out and the fate of humanity at stake, Flash and his companions will also need to enlist the help of some old friends if the forces of good are to prevail. Brandon Routh guest stars. Eric Dean Seaton directed the episode written by Eric Wallace (#801). Original airdate 11/16/2021. Every episode of THE FLASH will be available to stream on The CW App and CWTV.com the day after broadcast for free and without a subscription, log-in or authentication required." MAJOR HEADS UP: For the Armageddon event, The Flash Podcast will be LIVE every Wednesday at 6 PM ET/3 PM PT, featuring special guests from the other DC TV Podcasts shows so be sure to tune every week in the live chat! Season 8 - Episode 2: Armageddon, Part 2: https://youtu.be/nwVeixY4l0o Season 8 - Episode 3: Armageddon, Part 3: https://youtu.be/gOXx5bbnsrk Season 8 - Episode 4: Armageddon, Part 4: https://youtu.be/zDEmV5FuKmE Season 8 - Episode 5: Armageddon, Part 5: https://youtu.be/nVubgMhuUEc SHOW NOTES/LINKS: EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: The Flash Boss Eric Wallace Previews ARMAGEDDON TFP EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Inside The Flash Season 7 With Flash Showrunner Eric Wallace We Need To Talk About Arrowverse's Diggle Green Lantern Mystery… (VIDEO) Find The Flash Podcast on: Social Media: Facebook – @TheFlashPodcast – Instagram Subscribe: Apple Podcasts – Stitcher Radio – YouTube – DC TV Podcasts – Google Podcasts – iHeartRadio – Spotify – Amazon Music – Podchaser – TuneIn – Podcast Index Contact: TheFlashPodcast@gmail.com Support: TeePublic Store

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Riverdale kicks off five-part event with new town name, Rivervale

Watch This

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 16, 2021 18:12

On today's What to Watch: Riverdale's season 6 premiere kicks off a five-part event that sets up an appearance by Sabrina Spellman; the Bachelorette and her remaining men go to her hometown of Minneapolis; and The Flash season premiere welcomes their latest foe, Despero. What to Watch editor Joshua Heller tells us about the Australian animated kids series Bluey, available on Disney+. Plus, entertainment headlines — including Mel Gibson's plans to direct the next Lethal Weapon movie, and a Blossom reunion on Call Me Kat — and trivia. More at ew.com, ew.com/wtw, and @EW. Host: Gerrad Hall (@gerradhall); Editor/Producer: Joshua Heller (@joshuaheller); Writer: Tyler Aquilina (@tyler_aquilina); Executive Producer: Shana Naomi Krochmal (@shananaomi). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scarlet Velocity #721: Summer Special 23

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Play Episode Listen Later Nov 12, 2021 60:20

It seems like forever since the Flash saved the day. With the season 8 premiere just days away, we take a last hiatus look at the news from DC Fandome and more. The pseudo-crossover, Armageddon will start us off, with Despero threatening Barry in ways we've never seen before. What can we expect to see this season, and will it be the last? Jay and Josh grab the yellow spray paint and get ready for the upcoming premiere on the final 2021 Scarlet Velocity Summer Special.

1830 - Comic Talk

Comic Geek Speak Podcast - The Best Comic Book Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 11, 2021 145:27

Shane, Ian and Murd gather together to discuss as much geeky goodness as they can fit into an episode! Topics include the Ringo Award winners, trailers for Morbius (with spoilers for Venom 2: Let There Be Carnage), The Batman, Flash, The Book of Boba Fett and Black Adam, Shane goes into Hasbro Pulse Con announcements and his recent toy purchases around said Pulse Con and elsewhere, the new Neca Goliath figure from Gargoyles is amazing, Ian discusses books he grabbed at New York Comic Con along with Robin #1, Robins #1 Fantastic Four: Life Story #4, Star Trek: Prodigy and Young Justice: Phantoms, Murd reads Alan Moore's Neonomicon in honor of All Hallow's Eve, talks CW's The Flash and the lack of a cranial fin on Despero and Stargirl Season Two, and we finish things out with an in-depth and spoiler-filled discussion of the 2021 Dune movie. And even a Muddle the Murd, even! (2:25:27)

The Flash Podcast Season 7.5 – Episode 6: Despero Character Spotlight

Secret Friends Podcasting Network

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 10, 2021 61:58

On the final episode of The Flash Podcast season 7.5., Andy, Tatiana, and Breeze are joined by Vanessa Shark (Host of Black Lightning Podcast/Naomi Podcast/Lituation Room) to do a character spotlight on one of the new characters coming in The Flash season 8! As the eighth season approaches, the show will be hosting a 5-episode event titled Armageddon, which will introduce the DC Comics villain Despero, played by Tony Curran! In the news session, they also discuss the big news of The Flash, for the first time in the show's whole run, changing its timeslot for March 2022. Learn all about Armageddon's big history in the DC Universe before next week! That and more on this week's episode of The Flash Podcast! MAJOR HEADS UP: For the Armageddon event, The Flash Podcast will be LIVE every Wednesday at 6 PM ET/3 PM PT starting on November 17, featuring special guests from the other DC TV Podcasts shows so be sure to tune every week in the live chat! Season 8 - Episode 1: Armageddon, Part 1: https://youtu.be/VdifbRQWuxE Season 8 - Episode 2: Armageddon, Part 2: https://youtu.be/nwVeixY4l0o Season 8 - Episode 3: Armageddon, Part 3: https://youtu.be/gOXx5bbnsrk Season 8 - Episode 4: Armageddon, Part 4: https://youtu.be/zDEmV5FuKmE Season 8 - Episode 5: Armageddon, Part 5: https://youtu.be/nVubgMhuUEc SHOW NOTES/LINKS: The CW Releases First ARMAGEDDON Trailer For The Flash Season 8 Event TFP EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Inside The Flash Season 7 With Flash Showrunner Eric Wallace We Need To Talk About Arrowverse's Diggle Green Lantern Mystery… (VIDEO) Find The Flash Podcast on: Social Media: Facebook – @TheFlashPodcast – Instagram Subscribe: Apple Podcasts – Stitcher Radio – YouTube – DC TV Podcasts – Google Podcasts – iHeartRadio – Spotify – Amazon Music – Podchaser – TuneIn – Podcast Index Contact: TheFlashPodcast@gmail.com Support: TeePublic Store

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The Flash Podcast Season 7.5 – Episode 6: Despero Character Spotlight

DC TV Podcasts

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 10, 2021 61:58

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Arrow: Chapter and Verse

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2021 84:57

In which Patrick and I do not fall prey to Despero. Which we think was pretty corny on the part of the Silver Age writing team over at DC

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Laugh It Up Fuzzball #261 – Musical News

Laugh It Up Fuzzball

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 19, 2021 69:18

Welcome to the place where I get to let my geek flag fly and talk about all things geek. Basically a fuzzy guide to life, the universe, and everything but mostly geek stuff. This is where I look into the world of geekdom and some geek news, comics, The Simpsons, Star Wars, and whatever randomness finds its way onto the recording. This level includes: Tony Curren joins The Flash Season 8 as Despero plus Armageddon special event Bridget Regan joins Batwoman as Poison Ivy More Christopher Lloyd as Rick LEGO Star Wars Terrifying Tales trailer – Oct 1 Grogu is the first Star Wars Macy's balloon courtesy of Pop! Dexter: New Blood trailer – Nov 7 on Showtime Non-spoiler Shang-Chi thoughts Owen Wilson & Rosario Dawson to star in Haunted Mansion movie Video mashing up bully Spider-Man and Kylo Ren from TLJ Graphic of color-coded Hero teams Star Trek news for Picard, Strange New Worlds, Discovery, Prodigy, & Lower Decks Warner Brothers to use AI management system to greenlight future entertainment RIP Michael K Williams Grogu doll in Tennessee found with 167 Fentanyl pills inside Injustice trailer – Oct 19th Details from cancelled New Warriors live-action show Sonic team plans Teddy Ruxpin movie and TV – hybrid live action and CGI Thirteen vehicles from Mad Max: Fury Road up for auction – Sept 25-26 Spider-Man 2 trailer from Insomniac Games The Wolverine teaser from Insomniac Eternals and The King's Man get exclusive theater runs Voice actor for Yoda Tom Kane retires Amazon developing a live-action She-Ra series Paramount restructuring and it looks like they'll focus on streaming Grendel Dark Horse comic from Matt Wagner gets 8 episode live action series on Netflix Anthony Mackie starring in live action Twisted Metal series Ed Asner to ghost star in Disney's Muppets Haunted Mansion – Oct 8 Winnie the Pooh Bearbnb Marvel's Hit Monkey on Hulu – Nov 17 Frank Grillo interview suggests Crossbones could appear in more MCU content The Matrix Resurrections teaser and full trailer Avengers made in the 90s image Blank release dates for MCU and Star Wars Bob's Burgers is first Disney 2D animation since 2011 Nightmare Alley trailer from Guillermo del Toro Hawkeye trailer & Rogers Musical Star Wars Hunters video game trailer Bryce Dallas Howard is rebooting Flight of the Navigator Spider-Man: Work From Home image Epic Grampa Simpson tattoo Hayden Christensen repping Obi Wan show at cons Lawrence Kasdan directed 6 episode docuseries about George Lucas New Aquaman images Lil Nas X survived the Thanos snap WandaVision and Mandalorian win creative arts Emmys Penguin show on HBOMax Rumor of Wolverine in a 2024 film QuaranScreen watches plus brief thoughts: Batwoman / Superman & Lois / The Flash / Black Lightning / Supergirl / Legends of Tomorrow / Love Death + Robots / The Bad Batch / Sweet Tooth / LEGO Masters / Monsters at Work / Jungle Cruise / The Good, the Bart, and the Loki / Masters of the Universe: Revelation / 2017 Spider-Man / Ultimate Spider-Man / The Suicide Squad / What If…? / The Tomorrow War/ Behind the Attraction all 10 episodes / Disney Gallery Star Wars: The Mandalorian S2:E2 Making of the Season 2 Finale / Goofy pandemic shorts / Titans Season 3 / Shang-Chi / The Predator (2018 by Shane Black) / Harley Quinn S1 & 2 / MODOK / Reminiscence / Y: The Last Man / Chaos Walking / 1966 Batman Movie / The Return of the Caped Crusaders / Scooby Doo & Batman: The Brave & the Bold / What We Do in the Shadows Congrats on completing Level 261 of the podcast! Thank YOU for being a part of this hilarity! May the force be with us all, thanks for stopping by, you stay classy, be excellent to each other and party on dudes! TTFN… Wookiee out! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/laugh-it-up-fuzzball/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/laugh-it-up-fuzzball/support

Secret Friends Unite - 340 - The WonkaMan Cometh

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 3, 2021 1:17

In the Nerdy News, Spiderman:No Way Home got a real trailer, Marvel is getting a spooky special on Disney+, Star Wars Lego gets a new gameplay trailer, The CW gets Despero-ate, Star Trek gets a day, and Jake Gylenhall gets trapped in the OblivionIn the Geek Easy, we talked about “Free Guy” and “Candyman” (New film and the Old Ones Too), Legends of Tomorrow Bored game episode and The Witcher: Nightmare of the WolfIn the Thunderdome, we had our Fall geek TV and Movie previewFollow us on Twitter: @secretfriendsu Subscribe to our Youtube channelVisit our new website at www.secretfriendsunite.comJoin our discord server to be part of the community

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340 - The WonkaMan Cometh

Secret Friends Unite: Your Guide To The Geek Side

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 3, 2021 77:00

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Episode 97: Enter Despero

Nerds of the Roundtable

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2021 125:51

The Nerds bring you the latest news from Gamescon! Spider-Man breaks the internet! The Black Canary soars onto the screen! And, find out who the DC heroes will be joining forces to battle this year! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nerds/support

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167 - Spider-Man: No Way Home Trailer Reaction

Geek So To Speak Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 29, 2021 109:12

Welcome back, Fellow Geeks, for Episode #167 of Geek So To Speak Podcast! This week: After weeks, and weeks, and weeks of wondering, waiting, and leaks, the first teaser trailer for SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME is here, and we are ready to give you our first impressions and find out if this movie will really live up to all the hype! THIS WEEK IN GEEK NEWS: -The Flash is desperate for a new big bad, so they are tagging in Despero! -Its a big week for TMNT, because April O'Neil is showing up in several video games! -Black Canary joins the growing list of DC characters that don't need their own feature film! All that, and tons more! PLUS: Shoff is having a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad internet day, WonderRob isn't sure about Groundhog(s) Day, our Corrections Department is Psycho for Goreman, and Vactor does not "OMIT" any details in his comic book recommendations! So sit back, relax, and thanks for tuning in... SAME GEEK TIME, SAME GEEK CHANNEL! Don't forget to subscribe, and review! You'll be happy you did ;) Have a question, or suggestion for us? Email us at geeksotospeakpodcast@gmail.com Follow us on social media, why don't you? Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/geeksotospeakpodcast Twitter: @geeksotospeakpc Insta: @geeksotospeakpodcast Twitch: @GeekSoToSpeakShoff & @GeekSoToSpeakPodcast YouTube: @Geek So To Speak Podcast TikTok: @GeekSoToSpeakPodcast Follow Shoff on Insta/Fiverr: @ShoffVO Follow WonderRob on Twitter/Insta: @WonderRob Follow the Corrections Department on Twitter/Insta: @MarcVibbert Follow Vactor on Instagram/Twitter: @Vactor --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/geek-so-to-speak/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/geek-so-to-speak/support

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SNN: Fury, Jason and Thunderbolt

Scene N Nerd

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2021 58:09

We are back to actually talking about some Marvel and DC television shows. First, our SNN Host Sarah Belmont spills Spiderman, Succession, and CWverse tea over this week's headlines. Then our SNN Producer Will Polk talks about Jason Todd on the Titans, Nick Fury, and Thunderbolt. We rant...we rave...we review...this is Scene N' Nerd. Timestamps 0:00 Welcoming and opening banter about appointment TV nights and Sarah recommending some K-drama. 4:30 CinemaCon talk as we recap the news of The Batman, Matrix 4, and the major film studios commitment to the theaters moving forward 8:20 Sarah's looking forward to the return of Succession and Billions. 9:00 We give our thoughts on the breaking news from The Flash season 8 crossover kickoff event with Batwoman, Black Lightning, The Atom, Sentinel, Mia Queen, Ryan Choi, Damien Darhk, and Eobard Thawne, and Despero. 14:03 Letitia Wright was injured on the Black Panther 2 set. 15:00 Spider-Man No Way Home trailer dropped. We give our thoughts on it, the leak, and more! 25:08 We give our thoughts on the third episode of What If? 34:20 The duo then has a difference of opinion on the latest episode of DC Titans. 46:08 We finish the episode with our recap and thoughts about episode 2 x 3 of DC Stargirl. 57:07 Outro Follow our crew on Twitter @SceneNNerd, friend us on Facebook, follow us on Instagram, bookmark our website at www.scenennerdpodcast.com. But most importantly rate, follow, and comment on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Youtube, Google Podcasts, or wherever you get podcasts! #WhatIf #DCTitans #SpidermanNoWayHome #TheFlash #DCStargirl #Matrix4 #TheBatman #MarvelStudios #Sony #DCComics #MCU #CinemaCon #CWVerse #Arrowverse

The Flash Villain Despero, LEGO® Star Wars™: The Skywalker Saga - August 27, 2021

Pop Culture & Movie News - Let Your Geek SideShow

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2021 1:26

The Flash Villain Despero, LEGO® Star Wars™: The Skywalker Saga, Cobra Kai Season 5, The Old Guard 2. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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JLI Podcast #40 - Justice League America #40 & Justice League Europe #16

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 18, 2021 124:00

Dr G, The Man of Nerdology, joins The Irredeemable Shag to chat about Justice League America #40 in which Despero is defeated and the League grieves over the death of Mister Miracle. Then Lucien Desar stops by to discuss Justice League Europe #16 where the Extremists rampage across Moscow and come face-to-face with the JLE! Plus YOUR listener feedback! Have a question or comment? Looking for more great content? Leave comments on our JLI PODCAST website: http://fireandwaterpodcast.com/podcast/jli-40 Images from this episode: http://fireandwaterpodcast.com/podcast/jli-40-gallery E-MAIL: jlipodcast@gmail.com Follow Dr G: Pulp2Pixel Podcast Network: https://www.pulp2pixel.com Twitter: @pulp2pixel Instagram: @pulp2pixel Follow Lucien Desar: Website: https://desar.com Brooklyn'd video series: http://www.youtube.com/user/luciendesar Twitter: @LucienDesar Bwah-Ha-Ha Award Intangible Spreadsheet of Mirth from Chris Lewis: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D7dlWkjoGqwkm72vx9s8JLgfyZQMJGdI9kxYNTrnLiQ/edit?usp=sharing This episode brought to you by InStockTrades: http://instocktrades.com Follow the JLI Podcast: Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/justice-league-international/id1082000325 Subscribe via other podcatchers: http://feeds.feedburner.com/jlipodcast Also available on Spotify, Stitcher, Amazon Music and Google Podcasts Follow JLI Podcast on TWITTER: https://twitter.com/JLIpodcast Like the JLI Podcast FACEBOOK page: https://www.facebook.com/JLIpodcast This podcast is a proud member of the FIRE AND WATER PODCAST NETWORK: Visit the Fire & Water WEBSITE: http://fireandwaterpodcast.com Follow Fire & Water on TWITTER: https://twitter.com/FWPodcasts Like our Fire & Water FACEBOOK page: https://www.facebook.com/FWPodcastNetwork Support The Fire & Water Podcast Network on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/fwpodcasts Use our HASHTAG online: #FWPodcasts This has been the JLI Podcast! Wanna make somethin' of it?

JLI Podcast #39 - Justice League America #39 & Justice League Europe #15

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 20, 2021 127:45

Michael Bailey joins The Irredeemable Shag to chat about Justice League America #39 in which Despero battles the JLA across New York and a Leaguer dies! Then Chris Lewis stops by to discuss Justice League Europe #15 where the Extremists arrive on Earth and the killing begins! Plus YOUR listener feedback! Have a question or comment? Looking for more great content? Leave comments on our JLI PODCAST website: http://fireandwaterpodcast.com/podcast/jli-39 Images from this episode: http://fireandwaterpodcast.com/podcast/jli-39-gallery E-MAIL: jlipodcast@gmail.com Follow Michael Bailey: Fortress of Baileytude: http://www.fortressofbaileytude.com/ Twitter: @BaileysPodcasts Follow Chris Lewis: Storium Arc Podcast: https://storiumarc.com/ Twitter: @ceekayell Bwah-Ha-Ha Award Intangible Spreadsheet of Mirth from Chris Lewis: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D7dlWkjoGqwkm72vx9s8JLgfyZQMJGdI9kxYNTrnLiQ/edit?usp=sharing This episode brought to you by InStockTrades: http://instocktrades.com Follow the JLI Podcast: Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/justice-league-international/id1082000325 Subscribe via other podcatchers: http://feeds.feedburner.com/jlipodcast Also available on Spotify, Stitcher, Amazon Music and Google Podcasts Follow JLI Podcast on TWITTER: https://twitter.com/JLIpodcast Like the JLI Podcast FACEBOOK page: https://www.facebook.com/JLIpodcast This podcast is a proud member of the FIRE AND WATER PODCAST NETWORK: Visit the Fire & Water WEBSITE: http://fireandwaterpodcast.com Follow Fire & Water on TWITTER: https://twitter.com/FWPodcasts Like our Fire & Water FACEBOOK page: https://www.facebook.com/FWPodcastNetwork Support The Fire & Water Podcast Network on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/fwpodcasts Use our HASHTAG online: #FWPodcasts This has been the JLI Podcast! Wanna make somethin' of it?

JLI Podcast #38 - Justice League America #38 & Justice League Europe #14