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Elite performance does not come from chasing more hacks. It comes from knowing what matters, cutting what does not, and executing when conditions are not perfect. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Dr. Andy Galpin to break down what separates truly high performers from everyone else. From toughness and self-talk to sleep, strength training, and resilience, Dr. Galpin explains why better performance starts with fewer distractions and better constraints. Here's what you'll learn: Why toughness means producing even when the conditions are working against you How to identify the real constraints holding back your energy, focus, and performance What it takes to build resilience through sleep, strength training, and smarter recovery Stop chasing every new protocol. The people who perform at the highest level focus on what actually moves the needle. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:22) What elite performers do differently (00:06:09) Mental toughness and self-talk (00:15:38) Why adaptability beats optimization (00:21:59) What resilience actually means (00:29:19) Why most people fail to improve (00:32:27) Strength training and longevity (00:44:16) Health trends and wasted effort ---- Links & Resources: Dr. Andy Galpin Perform with Dr. Andy Galpin Rick Rubin Methylene blue VO2 max Zone 2 training Hyperbaric oxygen therapy Red light therapy ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 461. Mastering Biological Fundamentals for Elite Performance with Dr. Kristen Holmes 452. AMMA - The Unexpected Truth About Happiness, Work Ethic, and Priorities 435. The 15-Minute Habit That Prevents Attorney Burnout with Leah Lagos

The conversation continues. In part two, Dr. Phil goes deeper with Roblox survivor Michael aka “Schlep”... who says he was groomed on Roblox as a child by a platform-promoted developer, his attorney Steven Vanderporten, and trial attorney Mark Lanier, who last week won a landmark $6 million verdict after a Los Angeles jury found Meta and YouTube liable for allegedly engineering their platforms to addict children. According to the jury's findings, the companies acted with malice, fraud, and oppression. Today the question gets answered: was this an accident or was it by design? According to internal documents introduced at trial, Meta executives were aware their platforms were allegedly harming children and continued operating anyway. Dr. Phil breaks down what parents need to know right now and what they need to do tonight before their child logs on again.Sponsored by: Dr. Phil uncovers the hidden dangers tied to today's explosion of at-home injections — from insulin and GLP-1s to life-saving emergency medications. For more information: https://tempramed.com/Sponsored by: Don't wait! If you're on Medicare or will be soon, reach out to Chapter: Call: (352)-845-0659 or go to https://askchapter.org to learn about your Medicare options and get help finding ways to save money.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this week's Legal Speak episode, litigator W. Mark Lanier of The Lanier Law Firm discusses his landmark $6 million social media addiction verdict against Meta Platforms and Google as Zach Kinzler of BoodleBox explains how the collaborative AI platform aided in trial preparation.   Hosts: Cedra Mayfield & Patrick Smith Reporter: Ross Todd Producer: Charles Garnar

He was eight years old the first time he logged onto Roblox. He was fifteen when his mother called the platform to ask why her son was in the hospital. They say the company sent her a copy-paste email with a suicide hotline number. Nothing else. Now 22, Michael ... known online as "Schlep” ... says he was groomed on Roblox as a child by a developer the platform promoted and profited from. He says he spent two years running sting operations on the platform that hurt him, getting six predators arrested and protecting children across the country. Michael says the social media's response was to ban him, sent a cease-and-desist, and accused him of acting like a predator himself. Dr. Phil sits down with Michael and his attorney Steven Vanderporten ...who represents over 3000+ survivors who say they were exploited on on this platform, alongside Mark Lanier, the trial attorney who recently made history when a Los Angeles jury found Meta and YouTube liable for deliberately designing their platforms to addict children, with malice, fraud, and oppression. With over 100 federal Roblox cases now consolidated in court and 2,300 more pending against Meta, the question is no longer whether these platforms are dangerous. A jury already answered that. The question now is: what are you going to do about it?Contact your representatives: https://protectkidsnotplatforms.org/https://www.lanierlawfirm.com/https://www.lanierlawfirm.com/product-liability/social-media-addiction-lawsuit/https://www.lanierlawfirm.com/product-liability/roblox-lawsuit-lawyer/This episode is brought to you by: Get up to $20,000 in FREE Gold & Silver with a qualified purchase. Text ASKPHIL to 50505 or visit https://DrPhilgold.comThis episode is brought to you by: Don't wait! If you're on Medicare or will be soon, reach out to Chapter: Call: (352)-845-0659 or go to https://askchapter.org to learn about your Medicare options and get help finding ways to save money.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Your edge is not how hard you push. It is how fast you recover, reset, and get back on track. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill break down the difference between discipline and rigidity, burnout and misallocated energy, and rest and weakness. From missed workouts and cheat meals to draining team members and recovery as a competitive advantage, this AMMA is a blunt reminder that high performance is not about being perfect. It is about knowing what costs you energy, what restores it, and what you refuse to tolerate. Here's what you'll learn: Why getting off track only matters if you cannot get back on track How to identify the work, people, and habits that drain your energy What it takes to make recovery a competitive advantage instead of a guilty pleasure You do not need to be perfect to stay disciplined. You just need the discipline to come back stronger the next day. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:42) Discipline vs. Enjoying Life (00:05:05) Why One Bad Day Changes Nothing (00:05:32) Getting Back on Track Matters (00:10:05) Q1: Burnout Without Overwork (00:16:18) Q2: Is Recovery an Advantage? (00:22:02) Q3: High Performers Who Drain You ---- Links & Resources: Atlas Restaurant The Garden Room Michelin Guide ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 461. Mastering Biological Fundamentals for Elite Performance with Dr. Kristen Holmes 430. AMMA - What Separates The Pros From The Rest 420. The Sleep Science That Separates Elite Performers with Dr. Michael Breus

The only way to build the next big thing is to stop trying to copy the last one. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with David Vonderhaar, studio lead at Bullet Farm and former studio design director for the Call of Duty franchise, to unpack what it really takes to innovate in a world obsessed with replication. From navigating harsh feedback from passionate audiences to building a studio from the ground up after two decades inside a billion-dollar franchise, David shares the mindset, courage, and conviction required to do things on your own terms. This is a conversation about originality, resilience, and the cost of choosing the harder path. Here's what you'll learn: Why true breakthroughs come from being original, not from copying what's already working How to keep teams engaged under pressure without burning them out What it takes to bet on yourself when walking away from a sure thing If you want to build something that lasts, you have to be willing to build it before anyone else believes in it. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:28) Two Decades at Treyarch (00:03:56) Why He Didn't Retire (00:05:49) Origins in the Arcade (00:10:16) Joining the Call of Duty Machine (00:12:07) The Yearly Release Pressure (00:18:43) Navigating a Toxic Community (00:21:12) The End of the Public-Facing Dev (00:26:57) What Made Call of Duty Iconic (00:28:54) When a Game Loses Its Soul (00:30:27) The Business Broke the Industry (00:36:59) Redefining What AAA Means (00:38:45) What Success Looks Like Now (00:41:59) Building the Right Team ---- Links & Resources: Bullet Farm NetEase Games Activision Treyarch Infinity Ward Sledgehammer Games Raven Software Call of Duty X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse Dungeons & Dragons ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 332. Cliff Bleszinski - What the Legal Industry Can Learn From the Gaming Industry 113. Kevin O'Leary - The Entrepreneurial Journey: Inside the Mind of Mr. Wonderful 48. Eric Siu - Leveling Up: How to Master the Game of Life

At what point does believing in someone's potential stop being leadership and start being a liability? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill answer three listener questions about one of the hardest tensions in leadership: the gap between what you see in your people and what they actually deliver. They walk through how to handle a high-talent, low-output team member, how to recognize when a long-tenured leader has plateaued, and whether the popular idea of "unlimited potential" actually holds up. Believing in your team is valuable, but does it replace standards and results? Here's what you'll learn: Why potential without performance becomes a liability, and how to set objective criteria before emotion drives the decision How to know when a team member has hit their ceiling and what to do about it without losing empathy Why "unlimited potential" is a myth, and what a leader can actually be responsible for You can want it for them all day long. If they don't want it for themselves, nothing you do will matter. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:04:12) Earning the Right to Live a Little (00:05:37) Q1: Talent vs. Output (00:08:32) Potential Is Secondary to Performance (00:09:47) The Outside-In Perspective Test (00:10:50) Q2: Has He Hit His Ceiling? (00:11:35) What Got You Here Won't Get You There (00:14:24) Ceilings Aren't Failures (00:15:23) Q3: Does Everyone Have Unlimited Potential? (00:17:03) A Leader Removes Barriers (00:20:48) Closing ---- Links & Resources: No Rules Rules by Reed Hastings and Erin Meyer DreamHack Atlanta LeBron James Michael Jordan Kobe Bryant Gordon Ramsay ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 359. The Ultimate Guide to Retaining Top Talent 313. A-Player Attractors - Winning With Who: Cultivating a Winning Team 207. Patty McCord - How to Build a Culture of Freedom and Responsibility

The fastest way to destroy a great firm is to let standards slip while you scale. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Sam Pond, founder and managing partner of Pond Lehocky Giordano, to break down what it really takes to build a high-performing law firm without losing what made it great in the first place. From leadership under pressure to culture enforcement, delegation, data, and the real ROI of team retreats, this conversation is a masterclass in scaling without becoming bureaucratic. Here's what you'll learn: Why “take care of the client and everything else will take care of itself” is the only scalable North Star How to build a culture that holds under pressure (and what to do the moment you see slippage) What it takes to run a real executive structure, delegate at scale, and still deliver exceptional service The firms that win next are the ones that scale without surrendering what made them great. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:10) Welcome and origin story (00:04:33) Early hustle and entrepreneurship (00:05:59) From adversaries to partners (00:09:18) Mission first, money second (00:11:34) Scaling quality with teams (00:16:13) Retreats, culture, and ROI (00:20:15) Growth metrics and reinvestment (00:24:04) C-suite structure and ops scale (00:28:07) Marketing channels that convert (00:33:20) Adversity, COVID, leadership (00:41:45) Worry, mindset, and perspective (00:44:58) Marriage and shared values (00:46:41) What Sam is most proud of (00:49:42) Closing ---- Links & Resources: Pond Lehocky Giordano John Morgan Jamie Dimon Eagles Autism Foundation Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 247. John Morgan - Fortune Favors the Bold: How to Build a Legal Empire 204. Alexander Shunnarah - The Thin Line Between Success and Failure 182. Randi McGinn - Authenticity is the Advantage

Legendary trial attorney Mark Lanier joins Nicki and Sarah for an emotional, behind-the-scenes look at the landmark social media addiction trial that ended in a jury verdict against Meta and YouTube.For nearly two months, we sat inside the Los Angeles courtroom documenting every moment — filling 589 pages of notes as grieving parents, advocates, reporters, jurors, and teams of attorneys battled over one central question: did these platforms knowingly build products that addict children, like Kaley?In this deeply personal interview, Mark breaks down exactly how the case was won, why Snapchat and TikTok settled just before trial, and what the jury ultimately decided about Kaley, the young woman at the center of the case. He also reveals shocking moments the public never saw — defense witnesses backing out, chaos inside the courthouse, the strategy behind avoiding a billion-dollar “runaway verdict,” and the cross-examinations that changed everything.The episode also revisits some of the most unforgettable lines from the trial, responding directly to claims made in court by executives and attorneys from Meta and YouTube.But this conversation is bigger than one verdict. It's about children, addiction, grief, corporate power, and the parents fighting back against trillion-dollar tech companies. Mark shares what he believes this case means for the future of Big Tech accountability, why he calls it a defining trial of the 21st century, and the message he hopes families around the world take away from Kaley's story.The episode closes with a powerful discussion about parenting, love, and why human connection may be the strongest defense families have against platforms designed to exploit vulnerability.If you followed this trial in real time — or if you're just beginning to understand what these platforms are doing to children — this is an episode you won't forget.Here's a link to the actual verdict forms that the jury completed.Video Editing expertly provided by Jacob Meade.

Your firm does not change when you learn more. It changes when you actually execute. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill call out the pattern behind "staying motivated" while making zero real change, then lay out how to turn insights into traction. From a simple hourly discipline habit to a blunt breakdown of filtering advice and finding the right seat, this episode reinforces a core truth about performance: standards are built through action, not consumption. If you have been collecting frameworks while avoiding implementation, this will reset your focus. Here's what you'll learn: Why collecting information can feel productive while actually keeping you stuck, and how to break the pattern. How to filter contradictory advice so you stop second-guessing and start making clean decisions. What it takes to choose the right seat in business so you stop forcing a role that creates constant friction. Want the results? Then start moving like the person who earns them. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:56) A habit that builds discipline (00:05:27) The hidden cost of sitting (00:09:00) Q1: When learning is avoidance (00:09:42) Motivation can be procrastination (00:10:27) Knowledge needs execution (00:13:54) Q2: When smart advice conflicts (00:16:49) Choose mentors by outcomes (00:20:32) Q3: The truth about entrepreneurship (00:23:44) The power of the #2 seat (00:28:10) The right seat should feel obvious (00:28:48) Wrap Up Links & Resources: Bryan Johnson Mark Manson Nike "Just Do It" Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 251. Alex Hormozi - The Power of Humility in Achieving Entrepreneurial Success 203. AMMA - How to Know If You Are NOT Cut Out for Entrepreneurship 10. Gino Wickman - Entrepreneurship. Is it in your DNA?

Elite performance is not a personality trait. It is biology, managed intentionally. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Dr. Kristen Holmes, Global Head of Human Performance at WHOOP, to talk about what health tracking should actually do for you. They break down how to use wearable data without getting trapped in day-to-day noise, why sleep consistency beats chasing perfect sleep duration, and how recovery drives the capacity you need for clear thinking, stable energy, and better decisions. If you want the upside of high output without the crash that usually follows, this conversation gives you the framework. Here's what you'll learn: How to read your data in a way that supports better decisions, not more second-guessing What a strong baseline looks like across HRV, resting heart rate, respiratory rate, and VO2 max A simple starting point to stabilize sleep and recovery before you chase optimization If you want to perform like an outlier, start living like your biology matters. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:22) Wearables, Data, and Anxiety (00:05:47) HRV, CV, and Adaptation (00:09:55) VO2 Max and "Hard to Die" (00:14:50) LeBron Rules Apply to Everyone (00:16:56) Sleep Consistency Beats Duration (00:20:32) Sleep Debt and "Social Jet Lag" (00:23:01) Why Deep Sleep and REM Matter (00:25:26) Light Diet and Circadian Alignment (00:28:55) Why "Recovery" Isn't the Couch (00:29:39) Capacity, Stress, and Survival (00:32:37) Train Heart and Build Muscle (00:34:49) Heart Rate and Decision Quality (00:41:36) Wearables vs Drinking (00:43:22) The 80/20 Life and Your "Why" (00:47:24) Purpose, Autonomy, Connection (00:51:41) Building Team Capacity at Work (01:02:18) "Aligned": What the Book Covers (01:06:00) Closing ---- Links & Resources: WHOOP Heart rate variability (HRV) Respiratory rate VO2 max Peter Drucker Dr. Russell Foster's TED Talk Rory McIlroy Scott Galloway "Aligned" by Kristen Holmes ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 323. James Lawrence - The Power of One More: A Journey of Grit and Determination 170. Mat Fraser - The Fittest Man on Earth 21. Will Ahmed - Unlocking Human Performance

If your top performers are walking out the door and you never saw it coming, the problem isn't them. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill answer three listener questions that all point back to the same problem: what you are not seeing is shaping your outcomes. They talk through why high performers often leave without giving real feedback, how to approach self-awareness without getting lost in endless "work on yourself" loops, and what promotions look like in a results-driven environment. Here's what you'll learn: Why employees often avoid direct feedback on leadership issues, and how to reduce regrettable turnover How to spot patterns in your behavior through journaling, weekly reviews, and trusted outside feedback Why promotions follow measurable output, not visibility and long hours, and how to become undeniable If you want better outcomes, take a hard look at the habits and assumptions you treat as normal. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:00) "Back of the Pack" Mindset (00:08:29) You Can't Judge a Book by Cover (00:11:59) Q1: They Left, But Won't Say Why (00:14:17) High Standards vs Being Abrasive (00:18:00) Q2: Finding What You Can't See (00:18:50) Weekly Reviews Expose Patterns (00:22:16) Q3: Passed Over, Now What? (00:24:45) Hours Don't Matter, Output Does (00:26:30) Become Undeniable Links & Resources: Kyle Pease Foundation Kristian Blummenfelt Mat Fraser Shohei Ohtani Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 446. AMMA - How to Know If Hard Work Is Worth It 325. AMMA - Pressure, Priorities, and Progress: Mastering the Price of Success 63. Mat Fraser - The Fittest Man on Earth

If you keep waiting to "feel motivated," you will keep losing to friction, bad habits, and the identity you keep reinforcing. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Craig Ballantyne, widely known for being "the world's most disciplined man." He didn't get there through sheer intensity or some superhuman routine, but instead by turning discipline into a repeatable system. Together, they break down why "discipline" means something different for everyone, why subtracting friction beats adding effort, and how identity and self-talk determine your consistency. This conversation is a practical blueprint for building standards that hold up even when life gets busy. Here's what you'll learn: Why discipline starts with a clear definition of success, not generic "work harder" goals How to subtract obstacles (environments, people, distance, temptations) so consistency becomes the default What it takes to shift your identity and self-talk so your habits become almost automatic Stop trying to win with willpower. Actually achieve your goals with systems. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:36) Being the "World's Most Disciplined Man" (00:03:56) Define discipline for yourself (00:05:39) Subtract friction to win (00:08:02) Identity and self-talk (00:11:50) Public accountability hack (00:13:51) Anxiety and turning it around (00:19:18) The Perfect Day Formula (00:23:53) Dark side of Discipline (00:28:27) Get back on track fast (00:32:40) Why Craig coaches others (00:36:40) Who changes vs who doesn't (00:39:01) Win in business, lose in life (00:44:06) Values-first planning filter (00:49:01) What being a "game changer" means (00:50:03) Closing Links & Resources: Craig Ballantyne The Perfect Day Formula by Craig Ballantyne The Dark Side of Discipline by Craig Ballantyne David Goggins Charlie Munger Falling Down (1993) Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink and Leif Babin The Da Vinci Code (2006) What Got You Here Won't Get You There by Marshall Goldsmith Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 427. Your 2026 Reset: The One Change That Will Transform Your Firm with Jay Papasan 418. Why Discipline Without Toxicity Wins Every Time with Dominique Dawes 229. David Goggins - Never Finished: Unshackle Your Mind and Win the War Within

What happens when the drive that built your firm starts costing you the life you wanted it to support? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill answer three questions from firm owners who built real success but then realized the business was taking a toll on their health, marriage, and personal lives. Michael Mogill shares how he thinks about separating who you are from what you run, how to stay demanding without becoming unapproachable, and how to stay motivated when the old underdog story stops working. Here's what you'll learn: How to rethink “starting over” when the business is consuming your time and attention How to keep high standards while creating a culture where your team is not afraid to challenge you How to find a new source of drive when you have already achieved what used to motivate you If you want a business that supports your life, you have to build it so it does not require you for everything. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:04) Where to Find the Psychos at 6 AM (00:04:40) When's the Last Time You Jumped? (00:05:22) The Van Damme Volvo Commercial (00:07:13) Stacking Wins Builds Confidence (00:08:54) Q1: I Lost Myself in My Firm (00:09:38) You Are Not Your Business (00:12:42) "What Do You Actually Want?" (00:14:12) Q2: Intense vs. Intimidating Leader (00:17:18) Approachability Is a Superpower (00:20:07) Feedback Is a Gift, Not a Threat (00:22:34) Q3: Staying Driven After Survival (00:24:10) "Money Alone Won't Sustain You" (00:26:45) Mission-Driven vs. Money-Driven (00:30:15) Comfort Is the Enemy of Growth (00:32:00) Closing Thoughts ---- Links & Resources: Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs "The Epic Split" Rocky III ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 434. AMMA — Unconditional Love and Other Business Disasters 423. AMMA — How to Actually Scale Your Standards 383. AMMA — Why Comfort Will Quietly Destroy Your Law Firm

What separates the firms that scale cleanly from the ones that stay stuck in chaos, even with a great reputation? In this special mashup episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Kayla Grayson and Michael Beckman of Viles & Beckman, Jami Oliver of Oliver Law Office, Craig Greening of The Greening Law Group, and Stevin Groth of Groth & Associates to explore the real difference between stalling and scaling. Most firms don't fail because they lack talent; they're struggling because the business behind the cases cannot keep up. This episode is a look at the discipline, standards, and leadership decisions that make growth possible from firm owners who have been there themselves. Here's what you'll learn: How to improve client communication and experience to create real value (and prevent case leakage) How to use AI to accelerate case resolution while maintaining the human touch that clients expect What it means to move from trial lawyer to true business owner and leader Exceptional client experience doesn't happen by accident. This episode reveals the systems, standards, and strategic decisions that deliver excellence every single time. ---- Show Notes: (00:00:00) Introduction (00:03:04) Groth: immigrant kid to founder (00:07:05) Early days: taking every call himself (00:18:38) From peacekeeper to leader (00:27:46) Normal is unacceptable (00:29:36) Beckman and Grayson on “the five-star brand” (00:33:03) Culture after losing a partner (00:42:17) Competing with Amazon-level service (00:49:16) Break the mold, build your vision (00:51:34) AI removes busywork (00:57:08) Greening: brand without gimmicks (00:58:23) The stop at 16 that led him to law (01:01:11) Engineering edge in court (01:26:18) Hire to win, not to be right (01:23:34) Jami: COVID decision to scale (01:26:53) Six-month hiring funnel (01:34:57) Community impact that sticks (01:42:35) Success: more time with her daughters ---- Links & Resources: Groth & Associates The Toledo Mud Hens Scopes Monkey Trial Viles & Beckman Oliver Law Office The Greening Law Group ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 451. Growth Secrets From the Best of the Best 410. The Firm of the Future Won't Wait for You to Catch Up 376. Best of AMMA — Brand-Building Secrets Your Competitors Will Hate You For

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What if the reason problems keep reaching you at DEFCON 1 is not your team's competence, but your rules of engagement? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill respond to three questions that hit a nerve with many firm owners: why problems keep getting escalated late, why team performance can feel inconsistent from week to week, and why meetings sometimes turn into silence instead of collaboration. This conversation is about the leadership signals you may be sending without realizing it, and how small adjustments can change the way your team communicates, performs, and contributes. Here's what you'll learn: How to define escalation criteria so you hear about the right issues earlier, without becoming the bottleneck Why emotional consistency from leadership affects performance more than motivation does A simple way to structure meetings so every person contributes, not just the most outspoken If you want a team that operates with urgency and ownership (without waiting for a crisis), this is your playbook. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:46) Respect for the Work Behind Success (00:04:34) One Year to Become Competent, Decades to Become Elite (00:08:41) Q1: Why You Hear About Problems Too Late (00:10:32) Define Escalation Criteria (Rules of Engagement) (00:11:38) Q2: Inconsistent Team Performance and Emotional Leadership (00:12:40) "Monday Mogill" and Leadership Whiplash (00:12:50) Composure, Judgment, and Not Carrying Stress Forward (00:17:48) Breathwork and Not Making Decisions While Reactive (00:19:08) Q3: Why Meetings Get Blank Stares (00:22:12) Invite Pushback (00:22:25) Wrap Up Links & Resources: 'Smile, or You're Doing It Wrong' Andy Glaze Jocko Willink Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 455. From Addict to UltraRunner: The Ultimate Redemption Arc with Andy Glaze 375. AMMA - Stop Being The Bottleneck: Lead Your Firm Without Being Needed 284. AMMA - Elevate Your Leadership with Emotional Intelligence

What if the fastest way to build mental toughness is to choose the hard thing on purpose? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Andy Glaze. Andy is an ultrarunner, firefighter, and author of Smile, or You're Doing It Wrong. He's built a following by documenting what it really takes to keep moving when your body and brain are begging you to quit. Together, they break down why high performers chase extreme challenges, what ultramarathons reveal about failure and resilience, and how to apply those lessons to leadership, business, and life. Here's what you'll learn: Why high performers deliberately seek challenges with a real chance of failure, and how that mirrors entrepreneurship. How to build durability through “time on your feet” and zone 2 discipline, instead of relying on intensity and motivation. Why learning to reframe pain, setbacks, and criticism is a competitive advantage in business and in life. If you've been waiting to feel ready before you take your next big leap, this episode will challenge that mindset. ---- Show Notes: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:02:34 Michael explains how Andy's “run 100 miles with me” videos caught his attention, and why they changed his view of human limits.  00:03:18 Andy shares how he found ultrarunning in his 30s, starting with trail running and a 24-hour Tough Mudder that pushed him into longer races.  00:05:20 What draws certain runners past marathons, including the outdoors, the slower pace, and the appeal of a longer, more unpredictable challenge.  00:07:01 Why so many ultrarunners are high performers, and how extreme races scratch the same itch as business: risk, uncertainty, and the chance of failure.  00:09:46 What a 200+ mile race feels like from the inside, how pain changes over time, and how Andy manages sleep, short naps, and fueling to keep moving.  00:23:50 The link between addiction recovery and endurance sports, and how some people redirect that drive into something healthier.  00:29:51 Andy's approach to online hate, why he responds, and how he uses it to teach people not to stop sharing their progress.  00:33:17 Why DNF matters, what it teaches, and how Andy thinks about failure as part of getting better, not a reason to quit.  00:39:08 The cost of chasing hard goals, and how Andy thinks about balance, family, and what he chooses to give up so he can train.  00:47:35 How Andy defines success, including goal-setting, long-term thinking, and building a life where he gets real time with his kids.  ---- Links & Resources: Andy Glaze Andy Glaze on Instagram Andy Glaze on TikTok Smile, or You're Doing it Wrong by Andy Glaze Moab 240 Western States Endurance Run 100-Mile Ketone IQ ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 415. Why Your Limits Might Be Your Greatest Asset with Kyle Maynard 255. Joe De Sena — The Spartan Mindset: Embracing Discomfort and Unleashing Mental Toughness 229. David Goggins — Never Finished: Unshackle Your Mind and Win the War Within

Money issues at work rarely stay just about money, and the way you respond sets the standard for everything that follows. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill tackle three money-related questions that even experienced leaders can struggle with. They unpack how to support an employee who is struggling financially without becoming a long-term solution to a personal problem. Michael also shares how to think about investing in your team and operations when your instinct is to stay frugal, plus how to respond when a strong performer keeps pushing for raises. Here's what you'll learn: Why solving an employee's money problems for them can backfire, and what support to offer instead How to invest in your team without compromising long-term stability, payroll confidence, or future growth How to handle “market rate” raises pressure by creating milestone-based compensation paths and explaining the economics clearly If money is creating tension in your firm, this episode gives you a clearer way to lead. ---- 02:15 - Michael and Jessica kick things off with a quick reminder that leadership is often about doing the work you do not feel like doing. 04:19 - The episode gets into a leadership dilemma that sounds compassionate on paper, but can turn into a long-term expectation. 09:09 - The conversation shifts to the psychology of spending, and how your upbringing can shape what you perceive as “responsible” investing. 11:40 - They draw a clear line between foundational investments that change quality of life and “nice-to-haves” that only look impressive. 14:19 - The episode closes with a framework for compensation conversations that replaces arguing about “market rate” with transparency, milestones, and economics. 18:09 - Michael explains why a clear “no” lands differently when it comes with real business economics, not just authority. ---- Links & Resources: Bill Gates Vince McMahon Dwayne Johnson Triple H ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 432. AMMA — When Loyalty Backfires: The Hidden Cost of Tenure 306. AMMA — From Ramen to Rolex: Celebrating Milestones Wisely 26. Sherry Stewart Deutschmann — Maximizing Profits by Investing In Your People

If you want justice to change, you cannot treat equality like a slogan. You have to fight for it like it is personal. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Ben Crump, renowned civil rights attorney and founder of Ben Crump Law, to unpack what it really means to pursue equality inside a system shaped by power, precedent, and bias. Ben explains why progress is often incremental, why the biggest injustice is not always what makes the news, and why lawyers have a responsibility to speak truth to power even when it is unpopular. This conversation is a reminder that influence is only valuable when you use it to protect people who do not have any. Here's what you'll learn: Why racism and discrimination in America are rooted in economics, and how that shapes the fight for justice today How to handle death threats, public attacks, and the personal cost of taking on high-profile civil rights cases What it means to use your legal education to speak truth to power, even when it's controversial, unpopular, or dangerous If you have a legal education, you have a responsibility to make the world a better place. This episode will remind you why. ---- Show Notes: 02:53 — Ben explains the sacrifice behind the work, and why it feels like the news never stops giving him another family to serve. 03:55 — Ben talks about “incremental progress,” why change never happens overnight, and why cases like George Floyd and Ahmaud Arbery still matter as proof that accountability is possible. 05:39 — Michael asks where the real problem begins; Ben says it starts with whether people truly believe the Declaration of Independence, then explains how he tests that belief in jury selection. 11:53 — Ben shares how he stays optimistic, first through his own upbringing and family, then through a surprising source: what law school taught him about “precedent.” 16:42 — Ben tells the story of his mother and grandmother, the power of education, and how Brown v. Board and Thurgood Marshall shaped his mission when he was only nine years old. 21:20 — Michael brings up the backlash and threats; Ben explains why he accepts the risk, what “influence” is for, and why speaking truth to power is part of the job. 25:50 — Ben gives a practical answer to “But what can I do?” in the face of injustice 29:13 — Ben reflects on being a “rent lawyer,” and why the small cases and hard seasons are what sharpen the skills you will rely on later. ---- Links & Resources: Ben Crump Law Civil: Ben Crump (Netflix Documentary) Thurgood Marshall Frederick Douglass Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Seven Pillars of Wisdom by T. E. Lawrence ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 297. Ken Feinberg — Behind the 9/11 Compensation Fund: Navigating Tragedy & Complex Mediation 281. Nick Rowley — Brutal Honesty in Action: The Key to Legal Victory 209. Mark Lanier — A Lasting Legacy of Justice, Truth, and Billion-Dollar Verdicts

A great culture means nothing if your business isn't winning. And being busy doesn't mean you're effective. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill tackle three questions that expose tensions most firm owners feel but rarely address head-on. The first reveals how prioritizing happiness over performance can quietly cap your growth, the second explores the guilt that comes when success requires less hustle than you think it should, and the third shows what happens when partnership paralysis becomes more comfortable than forward movement. This conversation unpacks the difference between a strong culture and a stagnant one, why working fewer hours might mean you built something right, and why being right matters far less than being willing to move. Here's what you'll learn: Why a culture where everyone gets along can still be the wrong culture for scaling, and how to tell the difference How to shift from the time-and-effort economy to the results-and-judgment economy as your firm matures Why partnership gridlock reveals misalignment on something deeper than the decision itself If your firm feels stuck, scattered, or slower than it should be, this episode will help you identify what's really holding you back. ---- 03:00 — Why the best decisions often come from saying yes to the experience, not the timing 06:22 — When a “great culture” starts quietly holding your business back 06:42 — The uncomfortable truth about why you can't control your team's happiness 08:09 — Why winning is the foundation of every truly strong culture 10:37 — What it really means when your business improves as you work less 12:11 — Why letting go of hours worked is necessary to actually scale 15:13 — Why being “right” matters less than simply moving forward 17:00 — The real cost of being stuck in indecision with a business partner ---- Links & Resources: Death Stranding Hideo Kojima Ratatouille ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 436. AMMA — The Bigger The Firm, The Bigger The Problems 395. AMMA — Why Consensus Slows Growth and How to Fix It 177. AMMA – Ask Michael Mogill Anything: Energy, Effectiveness, and Entrepreneurial Guilt

What separates the firms that scale from the ones that stay stuck? In this special mashup episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with the four Firm of the Year winners from the 2025 Game Changers Summit. Laura dePaz Cabrera of dePaz Cabrera Immigration Law, Koro Khamo of Khamo Law, John Richmond of Richmond Vona, and David Meyer of Meyer Wilson Werning each share what it really takes to build a firm that grows without burning you out in the process. From learning to let go of control to betting the farm on the right technology, this episode reveals the mindset shifts and strategic decisions that turned their practices into powerhouses. Here's what you'll learn: Why staying small is often the riskiest decision you can make, and how scaling protects your future How to build systems that run without you, so your firm can thrive even when you're not in the room Why culture is non-negotiable at every stage If you want to build a firm that scales, this episode will show you what some of the best in the business actually did to get there. ---- Show Notes: 5:14 — Laura DePaz Cabrera on building a human-centered immigration practice 16:08 — Why the outcome must always be tempered by the human impact 19:01 — Laura describes the culture of relentless pursuit of excellence 27:35 — Koro Khamo on scaling from startup to Premier Firm of the Year 40:26 — How Koro uses 11-year forecasting and AI to drive growth 44:29 — Why staying in place means falling behind in today's market 49:42 — The overpaid employee trap: why solos need to think bigger 54:09 — John Richmond on scaling from two people to 50+ in six years 1:06:24 — How leadership evolves as you scale from six to eight figures 1:07:41 — Defending culture at all costs, even when it means losing high performers 1:14:49 — Richmond Vona's approach to AI integration and change management 1:16:22 — David Meyer on transforming from chaos to intentional growth 1:24:25 — The catalyst that shifted Meyer Wilson from technical mastery to business excellence 1:32:25 — How David learned to let go and trust his leadership team 1:36:50 — Training for an Ironman as proof of a self-managing firm ---- Links & Resources: dePaz Cabrera Immigration Law Khamo Law Richmond Vona Meyer Wilson Werning Alexander Shunnarah Rocket Fuel by Gino Wickman ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 410. The Firm of the Future Won't Wait for You to Catch Up 376. Best of AMMA — Brand-Building Secrets Your Competitors Will Hate You For 308. AMMA — Overcoming Doubt: Turning Fear into Fuel

Over the weekend, the US military rescues a weapons systems officer who was shot down in enemy territory over Iran. President Trump dismisses US attorney general Pam Bondi. And the Artemis II crew gets closer to the moon than any American astronaut since 1972. Michael Reneau from The Dispatch joins to discuss these headlines with Clarissa Moll. Then, Clarissa speaks with Mark, Rachel, and Sarah Lanier, the attorneys who won the first case that held media companies responsible for creating social media apps that addict and harm children. GO DEEPER WITH THE BULLETIN: Join the conversation at our Substack. Find us on YouTube. Rate and review the show in your podcast app of choice. ABOUT THE GUESTS: Michael Reneau is a managing editor at The Dispatch and is based in Greeneville, Tennessee. Prior to that, he was editor of WORLD Magazine and for several years was editor of a daily newspaper in East Tennessee. Mark Lanier is an American trial lawyer and founder and CEO of the Lanier Law Firm. He has led a number of product litigation suits resulting in billions of dollars in damages, including Johnson & Johnson baby powder and Merck & Co.'s Vioxx drug. Lanier Law Firm has provided services in the past to Christianity Today. Rachel Lanier is the managing attorney of the Los Angeles office of the Lanier Law Firm and a member of the trial team. She practices in the areas of personal injury, toxic torts, pharmaceutical litigation, mass torts, and product liability. Sarah Lanier is an associate attorney in the Houston office of the Lanier Law Firm. Her practice areas include personal injury, toxic torts, mass torts, products liability, and pharmaceutical liability. ABOUT THE BULLETIN: The Bulletin is a twice-weekly politics and current events show from Christianity Today moderated by Clarissa Moll, with senior commentary from Russell Moore (Christianity Today's editor-at-large and columnist) and Mike Cosper (senior contributor). Each week, the show explores current events and breaking news and shares a Christian perspective on issues that are shaping our world. We also offer special one-on-one conversations with writers, artists, and thought leaders whose impact on the world brings important significance to a Christian worldview, like Bono, Sharon McMahon, Harrison Scott Key, Frank Bruni, and more. The Bulletin listeners get 25% off CT. Go to https://orderct.com/THEBULLETIN to learn more. “The Bulletin” is a production of Christianity Today Producer: Clarissa Moll Associate Producer: Alexa Burke Editing and Mix: Kevin Morris Graphic Design: Rick Szuecs Music: Dan Phelps Executive Producer: Erik Petrik Senior Producer: Matt Stevens Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Newt talks with attorneys Joseph VanZandt of the Beasley Allen Law Firm, and Mark Lanier of The Lanier Law Firm about the landmark case in California where Meta and YouTube were deemed liable for addiction-related harm to children and young adults. They represented the plaintiff in the case, known as K.G.M. The case was initiated after former Facebook whistleblower Frances Haugen leaked internal documents showing that Meta was aware of the harms its platforms were causing to young users, but prioritized growth over user safety. The case was structured as individual lawsuits rather than a class action, with the judge selecting 9 bellwether cases to go to trial. The K.G.M. case was the first one selected. The key evidence used in the case was internal documents and depositions from current and former employees of the tech companies, which showed intentional efforts to design addictive features targeting children. The lawyers argued that the tech companies' actions constituted addiction, drawing parallels to the tobacco industry, and presented expert testimony to establish the clinical criteria for addiction. The verdict found Meta and YouTube liable, marking a significant legal precedent in holding social media platforms accountable for the harms caused by their products. The lawyers expressed concerns about the ongoing lobbying efforts by the tech companies to prevent further lawsuits through legislative means, highlighting the need for greater transparency and regulation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The people you surround yourself with either push you forward or quietly hold you back. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill answer three listener questions that all point to the same tension: leaders who've scaled past seven figures often struggle to recalibrate the people they listen to, the way they make decisions, and the balance between intuition and expertise. This conversation reveals what happens when your growth outpaces your circle and how to fix it before it stalls your momentum. Here's what you'll learn: How to recognize when you've outgrown your peer group and what to do about it Why seeking too much input creates paralysis instead of clarity When to trust your instincts as a founder versus when to defer to expert advice If you want to scale without stalling, this episode will show you where the friction is coming from and how to fix it. ---- 01:52 — Michael explains why being in shape with kids is one of the biggest flexes as an adult 05:55 — Jessica reveals her new hobby that has taken over the kitchen 09:55 — How to manage people who are more experienced in their domain without just deferring to everything they say 12:40 — The game tape method: why reviewing the thought process behind decisions is the fastest way to improve leadership 14:02 — Why asking more people for advice often leads to more confusion instead of clarity 15:12 — What separates great leaders: the ability to decide and act despite uncertainty 17:54 — Why CFOs aren't CEOs, and what that reveals about the role of financial expertise in growth decisions ---- Links & Resources: Who Wants to Be a Millionaire Resident Evil Requiem Call of Duty ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 428. AMMA — What To Do When You Outgrow Your Circles 407. AMMA — Why Playing It Safe Is the Most Dangerous Strategy 395. AMMA — Why Consensus Slows Growth and How to Fix It

Most negotiators spend years perfecting their argument. Chris Voss spent his career learning how to make the other side feel heard. In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Chris Voss, former FBI lead international kidnapping negotiator, CEO of The Black Swan Group, and bestselling author of Never Split the Difference. With decades of high-stakes experience negotiating with criminals, terrorists, and executives alike, Chris challenges what most attorneys think they know about winning and explains why the collaborative negotiator almost always beats the combative one. Here's what you'll learn: Why "win-win" is one of the clearest signals that someone is about to take advantage of you Why pushing back only when it's justified builds more credibility than fighting every point Why negotiation is a perishable skill and what small-stakes daily practice actually looks like for someone who does this at the highest level Getting better at negotiation doesn't start with your next big case. It starts with the next conversation you have. ---- Show Notes: 2:32 — Since his first appearance on the podcast, Chris has been busy: a documentary, a book on empathy, and a bourbon brand built around dealmaking. 5:11 — Michael asks Chris to draw the line between how negotiation is portrayed on TV versus what effective negotiation actually looks like in practice, particularly for attorneys. 5:32 — Chris tells the story of a lawyer who trained under him as an FBI intern, became a practicing attorney, and out-earned every associate at his firm by refusing to be combative. 10:06 — Chris explains why a combative approach neurochemically triggers defensiveness in the other party, lengthening deals and eroding trust over time. 23:18 — Chris defines tactical empathy and cognitive empathy, explains why sociopaths are paradoxically the best at reading others, and describes how neuroscience backs the collaborative approach. 32:13 — Michael and Chris discuss negotiating in a digital world, why most people communicate too much at once, and why in-person interaction remains irreplaceable for building real relationships. 36:32 — Negotiation is a perishable skill. Chris shares how Tiger Woods approached practice and explains how he stays sharp by reading strangers in low-stakes everyday moments. 39:39 — Chris compares Patrick Mahomes and Kirk Cousins to illustrate the difference between ambition and perfectionism, and what that means for how people handle losing. 45:56 — Michael and Chris dig into what it actually takes to maintain a competitive edge over time ---- Links & Resources: The Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel Same as Ever by Morgan Housel Collaborative Fund Bill Gates Mark Zuckerberg Jeff Bezos Elon Musk Scott Galloway Chris Rock Warren Buffett ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 441. The Psychology Behind Difficult Conversations with Sheila Heen 297. Ken Feinberg — Behind the 9/11 Compensation Fund: Navigating Tragedy & Complex Mediation 5. Chris Voss — FBI Negotiation Tactics for Business and Life

On America at Night with McGraw Milhaven, legendary trial lawyer Mark Lanier, founder of the Lanier Law Firm, discussed his recent courtroom victory against Meta and Mark Zuckerberg, explaining the significance of the case and what it could mean for accountability in Big Tech. Next, Bryan Clark, Senior Fellow and Director of the Center for Defense Concepts and Technology at the Hudson Institute, examined rising tensions with Iran, including the strategic importance of the Strait of Hormuz and what disruptions there could mean for global security and energy markets. Later, author Paul Rees joined the program to talk about his new book “Raised on Radio,” reflecting on the cultural impact of radio and the personalities who helped shape the medium over the decades. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Most firm owners are more uncertain than they let on. The ones performing at the highest level just have better frameworks to keep moving forward anyway. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill field three listener questions that circle the same uncomfortable admission: most firm owners are less certain than they look, and the people watching them aren't sure what to make of it. Michael gets into what it actually means to build a firm worth owning, how to read whether a firm is succeeding on skill or circumstance, and what it really takes to step out of someone else's shadow and lead on your own terms. Here's what you'll learn: Why feeling like you're winging it is not a sign something is wrong, and what success as a firm owner actually requires How to tell the difference between a firm owner making skilled decisions and one who has just been lucky Why the best leadership style is the one that produces results, regardless of what it looks like from the outside These questions come up privately all the time. This episode is where they finally get answered. ---- 01:48 – Michael opens with a Disney story that turns into a lesson on persistence and refusing to accept arbitrary limits 10:50 – Michael defines what it actually means to be a successful business owner 11:56 – Michael explains why most entrepreneurs feel like they are making it up as they go 13:28 – The difference between a business that depends on you and one that actually runs without you 15:17 – How to tell the difference between a lucky firm owner and a truly skilled one 15:48 – Why great leaders rely on decision-making frameworks instead of gut instinct alone 23:12 – Michael explains why leadership is about driving results, not being liked ---- Links & Resources: Roy McIlroy Tim Cook Steve Jobs Andy Jassy Jeff Bezos Amazon Web Services ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 443. Poker Face: The Framework for Navigating Professional Uncertainty with Tiffany Michelle 407. AMMA — Why Playing It Safe Is the Most Dangerous Strategy 203. AMMA — How to Know If You Are NOT Cut Out for Entrepreneurship

The story you never tell is the one that could have changed everything. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Kindra Hall, best-selling author, keynote speaker, and expert on strategic storytelling in business. Kindra has spent over a decade teaching leaders how to stop communicating in marketing copy and start connecting through the one thing the human brain is biologically wired to receive: a story. In this conversation, Michael and Kindra unpack why storytelling is the most underused tool in a leader's arsenal, what separates the stories that convert from the ones that fade, and how the narratives we tell ourselves are either fueling or quietly sabotaging our potential. Here's what you'll learn: The four essential business stories every firm owner needs and how to tell each one without sounding self-indulgent or salesy Why customer stories that start with the win are missing the most important part, and how to fix them so prospects actually see themselves in the story How to identify the limiting internal stories holding you back and use your own history to rewrite the ones keeping you stuck Your story isn't just how you got here. It's the most strategic asset you have. Are you using it? ---- Show Notes: 02:38 — Kindra's origin story and how a fifth-grade assignment launched a career in storytelling. 08:09 — Why AI saturation is driving leaders back to human connection and storytelling. 09:36 — What the best brands get right about storytelling and where most go wrong. 12:07 — The neuroscience of attention and why the brain is biologically wired to receive stories. 14:11 — The four essential business stories every leader needs to master. 14:47 — How to tell your founder story without making it about you. 18:04 — Why most client testimonials fail and what a great customer story actually looks like. 25:44 — The internal stories that keep leaders stuck and how to rewrite them. ---- Links & Resources: Kindra Hall Stories That Stick by Kindra Hall Choose Your Story, Change Your Life by Kindra Hall National Storytelling Festival Airbnb Buffalo Bills ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 199. Jesse Cole — Change the Game, Break the Rules, and Create an Unforgettable Experience 174. Joey Coleman — Never Lose a Client Again: Creating Memorable Experiences to Gain an Advocate for Life 36. Ryan Deiss — Truth Over Tactics: Marketing Strategies That Actually Work

The hardest part of building something real isn't the work. It's waiting for the work to matter. In this AMMA episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill explore one of the least discussed truths about business growth: the lag between effort and result. From the quiet judgment you'll face for decisions others don't understand, to the compounding power of doing the same boring thing for years, this episode unpacks why most entrepreneurs quit right before the breakthrough. If you're questioning whether what you're doing is actually working, this conversation will reframe how you measure progress. Here's what you'll learn: Why caring less about what others think becomes easier (and more valuable) as you get older How to recognize when slow progress is actually compounding momentum, not wasted effort What separates entrepreneurs who scale from those who pivot too early If you're doing the right thing but not seeing results yet, this episode is your reminder to trust the process a little longer. ---- 01:49 — Michael and Jessica open the AMMA by reflecting on what has genuinely gotten easier with age and experience. 02:25 — Michael explains how small technological conveniences slowly reshape daily habits and expectations. 05:05 — Michael questions whether too much automation weakens problem-solving instincts. 07:02 — Why recovery changes as you get older and what that teaches about respecting physical limits. 08:20 — Michael reflects on how maturity changes the way you interpret challenges and handle stress. 10:11 — Michael explains why leaders cannot respond to every message, request, or opportunity. 11:00 — The leadership tradeoff between being accessible and protecting your focus. 12:23 — Michael breaks down how to decide which problems actually deserve your attention. 13:50 — Why watching someone succeed with less effort should inspire you, not frustrate you. 21:40 — The difference between rewarding effort and rewarding results (and why one builds firms that scale). 25:39 — Why the decisions you made in 2015 matter more to your life today than anything you did last year. ---- Links & Resources: Tesla Autopilot Waymo Johann Wolfgang von Goethe ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 401 — AMMA — From Girl Dad to CEO: The Michael Mogill Playbook 387 — AMMA — Stop Cleaning Up Their Mess: The Secret to a Self-Sufficient Team 143 — AMMA — Ask Michael Mogill Anything: Teslas, Distractions, and Rebuilding from Zero

The way you think about money has almost nothing to do with spreadsheets and everything to do with who you are. In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Morgan Housel, New York Times bestselling author of The Psychology of Money and partner at the Collaborative Fund. With millions of copies sold and translations in over 50 languages, Morgan has spent his career studying not what the market will do next, but why we make the decisions we make with money. In this conversation, Michael and Morgan explore how personal experience shapes financial behavior, why the wealthiest people are often driven by something other than wealth, and what it actually means to use money as a tool for a better life. Here's what you'll learn: Why managing money is so new that we're still figuring out the rules, and why that means most people are learning as they go How your personal history with money shapes every financial decision you make, often in ways you don't realize What separates people who accumulate extreme wealth from those chasing it, and why the answer is rarely about money itself If you want to build wealth that lasts, you have to start by understanding the psychology driving every decision you make. ---- Show Notes: 03:57 — Why managing money for retirement is so new that there hasn't been a generational knowledge transfer yet. 05:19 — The social work principle that all behavior makes sense with enough information, and how it applies to financial decisions. 12:38 — The hardest financial concept to master is "enough," and how moving goalposts prevents happiness. 14:05 — Social comparison as the root of all financial unhappiness, and why there's always someone with more. 22:40 — The biggest financial risk is always what no one is talking about because you're not prepared for it. 28:13 — How savings without a specific goal gives you options and flexibility when the world surprises you. 30:07 — The highest form of wealth is waking up every morning and saying, "I can do whatever I want today." 31:44 — The difference between being rich and being wealthy, and why wealth is what you don't see. 40:26 — What it takes to turn down $1 billion at age 20, and why ultra-wealthy founders are rarely driven by money. 43:52 — What being a game changer means, and why the most admirable people are living extraordinary lives that no one knows about. ---- Links & Resources: The Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel Same as Ever by Morgan Housel Collaborative Fund Bill Gates Mark Zuckerberg Jeff Bezos Elon Musk Scott Galloway Chris Rock Warren Buffett ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 306. AMMA — From Ramen to Rolex: Celebrating Milestones Wisely 264. Bill Perkins — Die with Zero: Getting All You Can from Your Money and Your Life 223. Chad Willardson — Achieving Financial Freedom: Strategies for Building Abundant Wealth

This week on The Heat is On…Big Tech on Trial, we reached a turning point.After weeks of testimony, we heard from the final witnesses — including Meta's paid medical expert, internal researchers, and YouTube leadership. New details emerged about deleted watch history data, internal warnings about teen risk, and what company executives knew about under-13 enforcement.Then came closing arguments.Mark Lanier argued that platform design targeted Kaley from a young age. Attorneys for Meta and YouTube pushed back, claiming there is no proven causal link between social media and mental health struggles, for Kaley or anyone else.Friday morning, the jury began deliberating.Now nine jurors must decide:Were these platforms negligently designed in ways that substantially contributed to Kaley's anxiety, depression, and suicidal thoughts? Or not?We're inside the courtroom translating what this case means for parents everywhere — because these trials aren't just about one child. It could shape the future of accountability for TikTok, YouTube, Meta, and Snap Inc..Verdict watch has begun.The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial is an investigative mini-series by Scrolling 2 Death, in partnership with Heat Initiative.Video Editing expertly provided by Jacob Meade.

Revenue is a vanity number. The only scoreboard that matters is what you actually take home. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill answer three listener questions that all point to the same uncomfortable truth: the absence of problems is not a sign that everything is working. It is usually a sign that you have stopped looking. This AMMA covers the metrics that actually matter, the complacency that creeps in when growth feels stable, and the leadership decisions that do not get easier the longer you wait to make them. Here's what you'll learn: Why profit, not revenue, is the only number worth building a strategy around What to do when smooth operations start to feel more like a warning than a win How to stop letting one difficult conversation hold your entire firm hostage Stop waiting for the situation to get worse before you do something about it. This episode is the push you need. ---- 1:46 – Michael discusses going to bed at 9pm, and explains how temporal discounting makes the habit so hard to build. 7:53 – The first question turns into a bigger conversation about what revenue actually tells you, and what it doesn't, when you're trying to diagnose why a firm isn't growing. 9:56 – Michael argues why chasing more cases is often the wrong lever, and what happens to your margins when volume becomes the strategy. 11:38 – The second question opens a conversation about what it means when everything in your firm feels fine, and why that feeling is worth being suspicious of. 12:44 – Michael makes the case that every firm owner eventually faces the same choice: create the pressure yourself or wait for the market to do it for you. 14:46 – The third question is about a managing partner who has been underperforming for a year. Michael and Jessica dig into what's really behind the decision not to act. 18:37 – Michael identifies what it looks like when a leadership team is choosing feelings over progress, and what it actually takes to change that. ---- Links & Resources: Thinking in Bets by Annie Duke The Game Changing Attorney by Michael Mogill Shawshank Redemption ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 405. AMMA — What it Takes to 10x Everything 399. AMMA — Why Sleep and Nutrition Are Secret Weapons for Scaling Firms 52. Brian Chase — Aligning Passion and Purpose

The cards you're dealt matter far less than what you do with your emotions when you pick them up. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Tiffany Michelle, world-class poker player, ESPN commentator, and one of the most recognizable faces in professional poker, to unpack what the game reveals about decision-making, emotional regulation, and how leaders can compete at the highest level. Tiffany brings the mindset of a champion to a conversation about the hidden cost of letting your emotions drive your strategy at the table and in your firm. Here's what you'll learn: Why emotional regulation, not talent or luck, is the single greatest separator between good players and great ones, and what that means for how you lead your firm How to make confident decisions when you're operating with incomplete information, high pressure, and no time to think What the 3 Cs of high performance (Clarity, Competitive Edge, and Calibration) look like in practice for attorneys navigating a high-stakes career If you want to stop letting your emotions cost you the hand, this episode is your playbook. ---- Show Notes: 02:17 – Tiffany shares how her grandfather taught her poker as a kid and why competing against her brothers lit a competitive fire that never went out. 05:35 – What actually separates good players from great ones, and why emotion regulation is the skill most people underestimate. 08:53 – Why the best players think 20 levels deep while most are still playing the surface, and how that gap shows up in every high-stakes decision. 13:45 – How to make confident decisions with incomplete information, combining what is automatic, what is analytical, and what is instinctual. 18:14 – Why great results do not always reflect great decisions, and how to reverse-engineer your process instead of just chasing outcomes. 23:07 – Tiffany's 3 Cs framework, Clarity, Competitive Edge, and Calibration, and how to apply them to your career and firm. 28:07 – How she stayed mentally locked in at the 2008 World Series of Poker with 27 players left, a fresh breakup, and $9 million on the line. 31:25 – Decision fatigue unpacked: why the problem is not thinking too much but treating every decision like it deserves the same weight. 42:35 – Looking back at the 2008 main event and the one thing she would have done differently, asking for help sooner. 52:49 – What being a game changer means to Tiffany, and why the biggest wins come from stepping boldly into uncertainty rather than waiting to feel ready. ---- Links & Resources: Tiffany Michelle World Series of Poker Thinking in Bets by Annie Duke Chris Moneymaker Daniel Negreanu Phil Hellmuth ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 334. Dr. Benjamin Hardy — From Limiting Beliefs to Limitless Potential: A Guide to Personal Growth 161. Joe De Sena — The Spartan Mindset: Embracing Discomfort and Unleashing Mental Toughness 71. Tim Grover — Winning: The Unforgiving Race to Greatness

This Day in Legal History: The AmistadOn March 9, 1841, the U.S. Supreme Court decided United States v. The Amistad, ruling that a group of Africans who had seized control of the Spanish ship La Amistad were free individuals who had been illegally enslaved. The case began after the captives, led by Sengbe Pieh—often called Cinqué—revolted against the ship's crew while being transported from Cuba in 1839. They had originally been kidnapped in West Africa and sold into slavery in violation of international agreements banning the transatlantic slave trade. After the revolt, the ship was intercepted near Long Island and the Africans were taken into U.S. custody. Spanish officials demanded that the United States return both the ship and the captives to Cuba. The U.S. government supported Spain's request, arguing that the captives were property under Spanish law.Abolitionists rallied to the Africans' defense and secured legal representation for them in American courts. The case eventually reached the Supreme Court, where former President John Quincy Adams joined the legal team arguing for the captives' freedom. Adams delivered a lengthy and passionate argument emphasizing natural rights and the illegality of the slave trade that had brought the Africans to Cuba. Writing for the majority, Justice Joseph Story concluded that the captives had been unlawfully enslaved and were therefore not property. Because they were free individuals, the Court held that they had the legal right to resist their captivity and fight for their liberty. The Court ordered that the Africans be released rather than returned to Spanish authorities.The ruling was celebrated by abolitionists as an important moral and legal victory in the fight against slavery. Although it did not end slavery in the United States, the decision demonstrated that courts could recognize limits on the slave trade and acknowledge the legal claims of enslaved people.Thirteen major U.S. book publishers have filed a copyright lawsuit against Anna's Archive, a website they describe as one of the largest “shadow libraries” distributing pirated books and academic papers. The publishers—including HarperCollins, Wiley, McGraw Hill, and Cengage—filed the complaint in federal court in New York, alleging that the site hosts more than 63 million books and 95 million research papers without authorization. According to the lawsuit, Anna's Archive allows users to download these materials directly or through torrent networks, making copyrighted works widely available for free. The publishers claim the site openly presents itself as a pirate platform and intentionally violates copyright law.The complaint also alleges that Anna's Archive was created in 2022 after copying entire collections from other illegal book repositories and has continued expanding its database. The publishers say the site operates anonymously and frequently changes domain names across different countries to avoid enforcement efforts. They further claim the platform targets artificial intelligence developers by offering large datasets of books and papers. While free users can access files slowly, the complaint states that faster downloads are available to users who make donations through untraceable methods like cryptocurrency or gift cards. The publishers allege that these donations can reach roughly $200,000 for high-speed bulk access. In response, the plaintiffs are asking the court to shut down the site and award statutory damages of up to $150,000 for each infringed work.The lawsuit follows a separate case brought by Atlantic Recording Corp., which earlier obtained a preliminary injunction preventing Anna's Archive from distributing millions of music files allegedly copied from Spotify. That case resulted in a default after the site failed to respond to the complaint. However, the publishers argue that the earlier injunction does not cover books, allowing the alleged book piracy to continue. The Association of American Publishers has publicly supported the lawsuit, describing the scale of digital piracy as extremely large and urging legal action to stop the operation.Publishers Sue ‘Shadow Library' For ‘Staggering' Book Piracy - Law360Companies that operate in California are facing uncertainty as the state moves forward with major climate disclosure laws while a federal appeals court considers whether the rules should be blocked. The laws—California Senate Bills 253 and 261—require large companies doing business in the state to disclose information about greenhouse gas emissions and climate-related financial risks. In late February, the California Air Resources Board approved initial regulations explaining how the reporting system will be administered and how companies will pay implementation fees. At the same time, the Ninth Circuit has temporarily blocked enforcement of S.B. 261 and is reviewing a request from business groups to halt both laws entirely.Because of this parallel regulatory and legal process, many companies are unsure whether they should invest heavily in compliance or wait for the courts to rule. S.B. 253 applies to companies with more than $1 billion in annual revenue and requires reporting of Scope 1, Scope 2, and Scope 3 greenhouse gas emissions, which include direct emissions, energy-related emissions, and emissions from supply chains. S.B. 261 applies to companies with more than $500 million in revenue and requires disclosure of climate-related financial risks and mitigation strategies. Attorneys say collecting this data could be difficult, especially for companies that only have limited operations in California or that must gather information from suppliers and partners in other regions.The reporting requirements could also affect businesses outside California because companies subject to the law may need emissions data from their partners and vendors. Regulators have begun setting deadlines for initial reporting, including an August deadline for certain emissions data, but many details about how the system will function remain unresolved. Meanwhile, business groups including the U.S. Chamber of Commerce argue the laws violate the First Amendment by forcing companies to speak on controversial issues related to climate change. With rulemaking still underway and litigation ongoing, companies are left trying to prepare for possible compliance while waiting to see whether the courts ultimately uphold or invalidate the laws.Companies In Limbo Over Calif. Climate Disclosure Laws' Fate - Law360In a major California bellwether trial over claims that social media harms children's mental health, the plaintiff has finished presenting her case against Instagram and YouTube. The plaintiff, a 20-year-old referred to as Kaley G.M. to protect her identity, alleges that features on the platforms contributed to anxiety, depression, and body dysmorphia she experienced as a minor. Her attorney, Mark Lanier, chose not to call Kaley's mother to testify live, instead presenting a brief portion of her deposition to the jury. The decision appeared partly influenced by strict time limits imposed by the judge during the trial. In the deposition testimony, the mother acknowledged she had little knowledge of her daughter's social media use and did not monitor her phone because she viewed it similarly to a household landline.Defense attorneys have argued that Kaley's mental health problems were caused by difficulties at home rather than the platforms themselves. Evidence introduced at trial suggested the plaintiff had conflicts with her mother, including allegations of neglect, verbal abuse, and limited supervision of internet use. The defense also pointed to bullying and other personal issues as alternative explanations for the plaintiff's struggles. Meanwhile, a former Meta employee testified that internal company information suggested Instagram could be addictive and harmful to young users, although defense lawyers challenged his credibility and the extent of his involvement with safety issues.The plaintiff's final expert witness discussed ways social media companies could design safer platforms for children. After the plaintiff rested, Meta began presenting its defense with testimony from school administrators connected to the plaintiff. The case is the first bellwether trial among thousands of similar lawsuits consolidated in California, with outcomes potentially shaping settlement negotiations and future trials. TikTok and Snap previously settled with this plaintiff, but the broader litigation against social media companies continues.Meta, Google Begin Defense As Mental Harm Plaintiff Rests - Law360 UKThe U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agency told a federal trade court that it expects to create a system within about 45 days to process refunds for tariffs that were previously imposed under President Donald Trump and later ruled unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court. The tariffs generated roughly $166 billion in payments from about 330,000 importers, and the Court's decision did not specify how those funds should be returned. As a result, government lawyers and a judge from the U.S. Court of International Trade are working to establish a practical process for issuing refunds.Under the proposed plan, importers would submit a declaration through CBP's electronic system detailing the tariffs they paid. The agency would verify the information and then issue a single payment from the Treasury Department to each importer, including interest. Officials say this approach would avoid forcing businesses to file individual lawsuits to recover their money. The judge overseeing the matter recently modified an earlier order that required immediate refunds, acknowledging that the agency needs time to build a workable system.CBP explained that its current administrative system cannot automatically process refunds on the massive scale required. Importers paid tariffs on more than 53 million shipments, and manually reviewing each transaction could require millions of hours of labor. Several large companies, including affiliates of Nintendo and CVS, have already filed lawsuits seeking repayment, though the government hopes a broader refund system will resolve claims more efficiently.Business groups such as the U.S. Chamber of Commerce have supported the proposal, saying it could simplify the process for smaller companies. However, officials noted that relatively few importers have registered for the electronic refund system created earlier this year. The court continues to oversee the development of the refund process through a test case that could guide how payments are returned to all affected businesses.US customs agency expects tariff refund system to be ready in 45 days | Reuters This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.minimumcomp.com/subscribe

The room you're in either challenges you to grow or quietly lets you stay the same. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill answer three listener questions that expose a pattern most law firm owners won't say out loud: the peer groups they're loyal to have stopped challenging them, the leaders they hired aren't being allowed to lead, and the reason their team has gone quiet might be their own doing. This episode is a direct look at how necessary trust and delegation are for scaling your business. Here's what you'll learn: Why outgrowing your peer group is not a problem to fix but a signal to act on, and how to find the people who will actually push you forward How to tell whether a new leadership hire truly isn't the right fit, or whether you're undermining them before they ever get the chance Why the leaders who scale are the ones who get out of the way Stop surrounding yourself with people who tell you what you want to hear. This episode is your reminder that getting better requires truth, not comfort. ---- 09:03 — The first question kicks off a broader conversation about peer groups, truth-seeking, and why surrounding yourself with people who challenge you matters more than staying comfortable in the wrong room. 09:48 — Michael distinguishes love and support, and why the people who tell you what you want to hear are not the same as the people who help you grow. 12:48 — Why Michael's first question to any mentor is always "where am I wrong?" and what that mindset requires you to give up. 14:27 — The conversation turns to hiring and delegation, using a listener's managing partner situation to explore what it really means to bring a leader into your firm and then actually let them lead. 14:41 — Jessica raises the other side of the coin: what if the hire is actually capable and the owner is just getting in the way? 15:21 — Michael and Jessica tackle the "am I the asshole" question about a senior attorney who has gone quiet, and what it signals when talented people stop contributing. 17:38 — Michael reflects on his own evolution as a leader, from signing off on every decision to stepping back, and why the Summit ran better when he got out of the way. ---- Links & Resources: Entourage on HBO David Goggins John Maxwell ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 349. AMMA — The Leadership Shift: Building a Firm That Doesn't Depend on You 141. David Goggins — Never Finished: Unshackle Your Mind and Win the War Within 62. John Maxwell — Leadership is a Verb, Not a Noun

The most dangerous conversations aren't the ones we have. They're the ones we keep avoiding. In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Sheila Heen, Harvard Law professor, co-founder of Triad Consulting, and bestselling co-author of Difficult Conversations and Thanks for the Feedback. With over 30 years at the Harvard Negotiation Project, Sheila has spent her career studying why conversations go sideways and what it actually takes to have them well. In this conversation, Michael and Sheila unpack the hidden structure of every difficult conversation, explore why feedback triggers our deepest identity fears, and reveal how the most effective leaders learn to hear what others can't bring themselves to say. Here's what you'll learn: The three hidden layers in every difficult conversation How to use the "third story" approach to enter hard conversations without putting people on the defensive What separates leaders who invite honest feedback from those who build blind spots over time If you want to lead at the highest level, you have to be willing to have the conversations everyone else is avoiding. ---- Show Notes: 07:45 — Why negotiation isn't a field, and why that's actually the whole point. 11:37 — How the Difficult Conversations book has evolved over the past 25 years. 18:09 — Why every difficult conversation is actually three separate conversations happening at the same time. 20:07 — The movie theater test: one question that reveals exactly how you handle conflict. 23:38 — The reason starting from your own story almost always backfires, and what to do instead. 29:51 — The one type of feedback leaders give constantly that makes everything worse. 34:44 — Why two people can receive the exact same feedback and have completely different reactions 39:13 — The mistake Sheila made with her three-year-old son that she now uses to teach every leader she works with. ---- Links & Resources: Sheila Heen  Difficult Conversations by Douglas Stone, Bruce Patton, and Sheila Heen Thanks for the Feedback by Douglas Stone and Sheila Heen Harvard Negotiation Project  Getting It Done by Roger Fisher and Alan Sharp Carol Dweck ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 395. AMMA — Why Consensus Slows Growth and How to Fix It 373. AMMA — Your Firm's Biggest Threat: Too Many Good Ideas 156. Chris Voss — FBI Negotiation Tactics for Business and Life

The decisions that felt simple at six figures become exponentially harder at nine. In this rapid-fire AMMA episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill tackle seven of the most common questions from eight and nine-figure law firm owners navigating complexity at scale. From leadership misalignment to founder bottlenecks, this AMMA explores what actually breaks inside growing firms and how to recognize it before it costs you momentum. If you think bigger revenue will just solve all of your firm's problems, this conversation will change your mind. Here's what you'll learn: Why leadership decisions have more impact as your firm scales, and how to evaluate when to replace a leader The framework for determining if a challenge is a systems issue, a leadership issue, or both How to evaluate high-reward opportunities when the personal cost feels too high If your firm is growing, this episode will show you where the real risks are hiding. ---- 03:32 – What decisions get harder as firms scale from six to nine figures. 06:28 – How to identify if a challenge is a leadership or systems issue. 08:50 – Why firm owners accidentally become bottlenecks as they grow. 11:00 – The early warning signs that a leadership team is misaligned. 14:43 – What separates teams that look good on paper from teams that can actually scale. 17:07 – What to focus on in your first 90 days as CEO of an eight-figure firm. 20:05 – What winning actually looks like beyond revenue at nine figures. ---- Links & Resources: Miracle (1980) ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 423. AMMA — How to Actually Scale Your Standards 403. AMMA — How to Scale Beyond Growth Basics 375. AMMA — Stop Being the Bottleneck: Lead Your Firm Without Being Needed

Radical respect is the prequel to radical candor. Without it, you won't bother challenging anyone. In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Kim Scott, author of Radical Candor and Radical Respect, to tackle the workplace dynamics that quietly destroy firm culture. Kim shares how a colleague's feedback on her own book exposed the blind spots she had around bias, prejudice, and bullying in the workplace, ultimately leading her to write Radical Respect. This conversation reveals how leaders accidentally exclude top talent through "oblivious" promotion processes, and why the brilliant jerk who delivers results will ultimately cost you more than they're worth. Kim gives you the exact language to use when things get uncomfortable, so you stop defaulting to silence. Here's what you'll learn: The difference between bias, prejudice, and bullying, and how to respond to each The “I/It/You” framework for course-correcting conversations that lack respect How to create a shared vocabulary for disrupting bias on your team It's better to have a hole in your team than an asshole on your team. ---- Show Notes: 03:09 – The feedback from a black woman CEO that made Kim realize what she'd missed. 09:15 – How to know if you're dealing with bias, prejudice, or bullying in the moment. 09:15 – The I, It, You framework for responding to each type of disrespect. 16:14 – Why leaders need to create three types of consequences for bullying behavior. 19:38 – The difference between healthy conflict and repeated bullying that ignores feedback. 20:55 – What it means to be an upstander versus a bystander when you witness bias. 23:46 – Why silence is the default and how to calculate the ROI of speaking up. 26:40 – How to create a shared vocabulary so your team knows what to say when bias happens. 36:06 – How oblivious exclusion shows up in promotion meetings and how to catch it. ---- Links & Resources: Radical Respect by Kim Scott Radical Candor by Kim Scott Thinking Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman Radical Candor Podcast Bob Sutton Episode 25. Kim Scott — Radical Candor: How to be a Kickass Boss ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 369. Your Ego Is Making You Miserable with Cy Wakeman 352. Susan Fowler — Why Everything You Know About Motivating Your Team Might Be Completely Wrong 25. Kim Scott — Radical Candor: How to be a Kickass Boss

The scary (Dystopia)Microsoft AI chief gives it 18 months—for all white-collar work to be automated by AIAI Will Destroy Millions of White Collars Jobs in the Coming Months, Andrew Yang Warns, Driving Surge of Personal BankruptciesRing cancels Flock deal after dystopian Super Bowl ad prompts mass outrageAmazon and Flock Safety have ended a partnership that would've given law enforcement access to a vast web of Ring cameras. The decision came after Amazon faced substantial backlash for airing a Super Bowl ad that was meant to be warm and fuzzy, but instead came across as disturbing and dystopian.Ring's Founder Knows You Hated That Super Bowl Ad. Since the commercial aired, Jamie Siminoff has been trying to quell an outcry over privacy concerns with his doorbell cameras.Platforms bend over backward to help DHS censor ICE critics, advocates say MMAnthropic is clashing with the Pentagon over AI useAnthropic's relationship with the Department of Defense is “under review” as the two sides negotiate over how the company's AI models can be used.The startup wants assurance that its models will not be used for autonomous weapons or mass surveillance.The DOD wants to use Anthropic's models “for all lawful use cases” without limitationDavid Sacks, the venture capitalist serving as the administration's AI and crypto czar, has accused Anthropic of supporting “woke AI” because of its stance on regulation.Our Big Data OverlordsMeta Begins $65 Million Election Push to Advance A.I. AgendaMark Zuckerberg faces jury in landmark trial over alleged youth harm linked to social mediaThe lawsuit, K.G.M. v. Meta Platforms, Inc., et al., was filed by a 20-year-old California woman identified by her initials. She alleges that Meta and other tech companies deliberately engineered their platforms to hook young users, contributing to her depression and suicidal thoughts, and seeks to hold them accountable.Regarding Instagram's enforcement efforts, plaintiffs asked whether Meta removed all 4 million under-13 users the company had identified on the platform in 2018. Zuckerberg responded that while the company did not remove all of them, it had implemented tools to detect and address underage accounts and was working to improve those systems.According to reports, Zuckerberg has not directly answered the central question of the case: whether Instagram is addictive. The plaintiff's attorney, Mark Lanier, asked if people tend to use something more if it's addictive. “I'm not sure what to say to that,” Zuckerberg said. “I don't think that applies here.”He said he believes in the “basic assumption” that “if something is valuable, people will use it more because it's useful to them.”When he was asked about his compensation, Zuckerberg said he has pledged to give “almost all” of his money to charity, focusing on scientific research. Lanier asked him how much money he has pledged to victims impacted by social media, to which Zuckerberg replied, “I disagree with the characterization of your question.”Zuckerberg's courthouse entourage showed up in Meta Ray-BansMeta Adding Facial Recognition to Its Smart Glasses That Identifies People in Real Time, Hoping the Public Is Too Distracted by Political Turmoil to Care MMApple sued by West Virginia for alleged failure to stop child sexual abuse material on iCloud, iOS devicesSpaceX said to weigh dual-class IPO shares to empower MuskMacron Blasts Social Media's Free Speech Defense as ‘Bullshit'The stupid (ESG edition)Goldman Sachs to Drop D.E.I. Criteria for Board Members MMThe move would be the Wall Street firm's latest retreat from diversity mandates that its chief executive, David Solomon, had once made a priority.The decision is a result of a deal that Goldman struck with the National Legal and Policy Center, a conservative nonprofit group that has been pressuring numerous companies to drop diversity, equity and inclusion mandates, the people said.As part of its agreement with Goldman, the National Legal and Policy Center, which has a small investment in the bank, withdrew a shareholder proposal demanding that diversity criteria for the board be dropped.In March 2019, Mr. Solomon, his top deputy John Waldron and the firm's chief financial officer at the time, Stephen M. Scherr, declared diversity and inclusion “a top priority.”“When we unite around a common goal, we make progress together,” the men wrote in an email to the staff. They said they would “improve each year” toward goals that included a new recruiting class comprising “50 percent women, 11 percent Black professionals and 14 percent Hispanic/Latino professionals in the Americas, and 9 percent Black professionals in the U.K.”The next year, Mr. Solomon said Goldman would no longer take a company public in the United States or Europe unless it had at least one “diverse” board member. By 2021, a company would need at least two diverse board members in order for Goldman to agree to work on its initial public offering.Inspire Investing CEO: Nike's DEI Is A Legal Liability, Shareholders Coming For AnswersNike's DEI fight is no longer just a social media "culture war" argument. The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) is investigating Nike over allegations the company's DEI practices discriminated against white employees and job applicants.Robert Netzly, CEO of Inspire Investing: "Discrimination, whether it's black people or white people, gay people or straight people, is discrimination."Robert Netzly is a globally recognized authority in the Biblically Responsible Investing (BRI) movement, author of the book "Biblically Responsible Investing: On Wall Street As It Is In Heaven." Robert holds a B.S. degree in Liberal Studies from an online university. This article was from OutKick, which aims to expose the destructive nature of "woke" activism and is the antidote to the mainstream sports media that often serves an elite, left-leaning minority instead of the American sports fan. OutKick is owned by Fox Sports' parent company Fox CorporationFederal agency sues Coca-Cola bottler over work event that excluded menA Coca-Cola distributor and bottler is being sued for alleged sexual discrimination over a corporate networking event that excluded men, announced the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, which filed the lawsuitAccording to the EEOC's lawsuit, in September 2024, Bedford, N.H.-headquartered Coca-Cola Northeast held a two-day employer-sponsored trip and networking event at the Mohegan Sun Casino and Resort in Connecticut. Coca-Cola Northeast privately invited female employees and then excused the female employees who attended the event from their normal work duties on Sept. 10 and 11, 2024, and paid them their normal salary or wages without requiring them to use vacation or other paid time off. Coca-Cola Northeast did not invite any male employees to the event.Trump revokes landmark ruling that greenhouse gases endanger public healthUS President Donald Trump has reversed a key Obama-era scientific ruling that underpins all federal actions on curbing planet-warming gases.The so-called 2009 "endangerment finding" concluded that a range of greenhouse gases were a threat to public health. It's become the legal bedrock of federal efforts to rein in emissions, especially in vehicles.Bill Maher Eviscerates Donald Trump Over ‘Biggest Dick Move in American History'The boring (ESG edition)Starbucks' investor group urges shareholders to replace directors over labor rowStarbucks faced fresh pressure on Wednesday from a coalition of investors including public-sector pension funds that urged shareholders ‌to vote against the reelection of two directors, citing persistent failure ‌to manage labor relations.The move against Starbucks' lead independent director, Jorgen Vig Knudstorp, and Beth ​Ford, chair of the board's Nominating and Corporate Governance Committee, comes as the company is locked in a prolonged effort to reach a collective agreement with its unionized baristas.Companies are cycling through CEOs—and replacing them with first-timers MMSome 168 new CEOs were appointed in 2025, the highest total since 2010. The defining shift was who got the job. Among incoming CEOs, 84% were serving in their first enterprise CEO role, reversing a multi-year tilt toward leaders with prior public-company experience.As recently as 2024, more than one in five new CEOs had already led a public company. That share fell sharply in 2025. Of the 140 first-time CEOs appointed, 116 had no prior enterprise CEO experience. Two-thirds had never served on a public company board, meaning many are stepping into the role without prior exposure to shareholder oversight or public company governance.CEO hopefuls have a new rival for the top job: their own board directorsAppointing board directors as CEOs was once a “break glass in case of emergency” strategy reserved for scandal, illness, or sudden resignation. While it remains a minority path compared with traditional internal promotions, it is no longer an anomaly.New data from Spencer Stuart highlights the shift. Of the 168 new S&P 1500 chief executives appointed in 2025, the highest annual total since 2010, 19 were drawn from their own company boards, the most since 2020. Spencer Stuart classifies directors as outsiders because they lack day-to-day operating responsibility. Even so, more boards are turning to them.Wall Street banks are paying their CEOs like it's 2006 againMorgan Stanley CEO Ted Pick's pay rises 32% to $45mlnBank of America Lifts Moynihan's Pay 17% to $41 Million for 2025Barclays Ceo Pay Hike: Barclays lifts CEO Venkatakrishnan's pay to over £15 million as bonus pool risesCitigroup bumps CEO Jane Fraser's pay to record $59mBro Culture (The Epstein Edition)Thomas Pritzker, Named in Epstein Files, Retires as Hyatt Executive ChairmanTom Pritzker Retires as Executive Chairman of Hyatt After 22 Years of Service and Will Not Stand for Reelection to Board of DirectorsThe Board has appointed Mark S. Hoplamazian, Hyatt's President and Chief Executive Officer, to succeed Mr. Pritzker as Chairman of the Board“Tom's leadership has been instrumental in shaping Hyatt's strategy and long-term growth, and we thank him for his service and dedication to Hyatt,” said Richard Tuttle, Chair of the Board's Nominating and Corporate Governance Committee. “The Board has engaged in thoughtful succession planning, and we are confident that Mark's deep knowledge of Hyatt's business, strong relationships with owners and colleagues, and proven track record as CEO of nearly two decades positions him well to serve as Chairman and continue driving Hyatt's long-term success.”In a letter to the Hyatt Hotels' Board of Directors, Tom Pritzker wrote, “My job and responsibility is to provide good stewardship. That is important to me. Good stewardship includes ensuring a proper transition at Hyatt. Following discussions with my fellow Board members, I have decided, after serving as Executive Chairman since 2004, and with the company in a strong position, that now is the right time for me to retire from Hyatt. Good stewardship also means protecting Hyatt, particularly in the context of my association with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, which I deeply regret. I exercised terrible judgment in maintaining contact with them, and there is no excuse for failing to distance myself sooner. I condemn the actions and the harm caused by Epstein and Maxwell, and I feel deep sorrow for the pain they inflicted on their victims.”Dubai's DP World replaces CEO after Epstein links emergeDubai's DP World announced Essa Kazim was the new chairman of its board of directors and Yuvraj Narayan was its new group chief executive officer, replacing Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem.Sulayem had been the CEO of Dubai's largest port operator since 2016 and chairman since 2007.DOJ records showed years of exchanges with Epstein, but Sulayem has not been accused of any criminal wrongdoing.Casey Wasserman to sell talent agency following Jefferey Epstein controversyCasey Wasserman has confirmed that he has started the process of selling his talent agency after it was uncovered that he had ties with Jefferey Epstein. The announcement comes as artists began to leave the agency after it was uncovered that the Wasserman CEO had extensive ties with Jeffrey Epstein and had sent flirtatious emails to Ghislaine Maxwell. Despite denying that he had any personal or business ties with either, Wasserman sent an apology to the 4,000 employees who work at his sports marketing and talent agency, confirming that he would be stepping down from the company. He said: “I'm deeply sorry that my past personal mistakes have caused you so much discomfort […] It's not fair to you, and it's not fair to the clients and partners we represent so vigorously and care so deeply about.”Former Victoria's Secret CEO Les Wexner testifies in House Epstein investigationThe billionaire behind the retail empire that once blanketed shopping malls with names such as Victoria's Secret and Abercrombie & Fitch told members of Congress on Wednesday that he was “duped by a world-class con man” — close financial adviser Jeffrey Epstein. Les Wexner also denied knowing about the late sex offender's crimes or participating in Epstein's abuse of girls and young women.“I was naive, foolish, and gullible to put any trust in Jeffrey Epstein. He was a con man. And while I was conned, I have done nothing wrong and have nothing to hide.”Wexner described himself to the lawmakers as a philanthropist, community builder and grandfather who always strove “to live my life in an ethical manner in line with my moral compass,” according to the statement.Top Goldman Sachs lawyer Kathy Ruemmler to resign over Epstein linksThe latest Justice Department release revealed a trove of communication between the two, including about potential jobs, her romantic life and gifts Epstein had given her. (She called him “sweetie” and “Uncle Jeffrey.”)Goldman's CEO David Solomon says he 'reluctantly' let top lawyer Kathy Ruemmler go after Epstein fallout MMKing Charles' brother Andrew arrested on suspicion of misconductWhite House Shrugs Off Lutnick's Epstein TiesCommerce Secretary Howard Lutnick has acknowledged traveling to Jeffrey Epstein's island and meeting him on another occasion.Elon's bro quits Burning Man board amid outrage over Epstein connectionBlowhard IndexSalesforce cofounder 'not OK' with Benioff's ICE crack: 'Marc made a very bad joke.'The comments occurred during a keynote address at the company's annual internal "Company Kickoff" (CKO) event in Las Vegas, sparking a significant backlash from employees and leadership alike.During the keynote, Benioff reportedly asked employees who had traveled to the event from outside the United States to stand up for recognition. Once they were standing, he made a "joke" to the effect of: "Thank you! Just so the ICE agents [in the building] know [who you are]."He reportedly made a follow-up "callback" later in the presentation, suggesting that ICE agents were also monitoring those who hadn't yet used a specific new Slackbot tool.And another joke about ICE surveilling employee travel: when there are literally employees afraid to travel for work due to current situationSalesforce famously promotes a culture of "Ohana" (family) and equality.Parker Harris (Cofounder): In a follow-up meeting, Harris reportedly called the jokes a "violation of the Code of Conduct" and even noted they could be considered a "fireable offense" for a typical employee.Rob Seaman (Slack GM): The head of the Salesforce-owned platform Slack sent a memo to staff stating he "cannot defend or explain" the jokes and that they did not align with his values.Salesforce employees call on CEO Benioff to cancel ICE ‘opportunities'Elon Musk says Anthropic's philosopher has no stake in the future because she doesn't have kidsPalantir, Which Is Powering ICE, Says Immigration Crackdown May Hurt Hiring MMFrom 10-K filed 2 days ago: “if we are not able to recruit, hire, or retain the talent we need because of increased regulation of immigration or work visas … it could be more difficult to staff our personnel on customer engagements and could increase our costs … Additionally, laws and regulations, such as restrictive immigration laws, may limit our ability to recruit outside of the United States ... If we fail to attract new personnel or to retain our current personnel, our business and operations could be harmed.”

"If I failed, I wanted it to be 100% my fault." In this special episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill reflect on 5000 days of building Crisp. They walk through the dark ages of working out of a dental office with $500 and no idea what they were doing, the years of building real infrastructure and systems, the $8 million Game Changers Summit at Mercedes-Benz Stadium that became their moon landing, and the final evolution where Michael removed himself as the bottleneck entirely. This is an unfiltered look at what building a nine-figure company actually requires at each stage: pure grit when you know nothing, relentless focus on brand when everyone's watching, and the discipline to build systems that work without you. Here's what you'll learn: Why working 100 hours a week got them to seven figures but would have capped them there forever How the brand became the only competitive advantage that matters and why people who hated them still respected what they built What it means to go from hustler to manager to leader to CEO to owner, and why each evolution requires letting go of what got you there 5000 days. Zero debt. 100% ownership. Built by people who believed before there was anything to believe in. ---- 01:53 – Why 5000 days of Crisp is worth celebrating and the surprise party that almost didn't happen. 09:57 – Why "I can outwork anyone" is a badge of honor early on and a liability later. 14:19 – What Jessica found when she walked into Crisp and why she bulldozed everything she saw. 18:13 – What it actually feels like to cross a million dollars in revenue when you've been grinding for years. 20:01 – The milestone that finally made Crisp feel legitimate and what it meant to be able to offer it. 31:41 – Why the Game Changers Summit was designed to feel like a rock concert, not a legal conference. 43:03 – What it took to pull off a legal conference at Mercedes-Benz Stadium and whether Michael would do it again. 48:49 – What the transition from CEO to owner actually looks like in practice and why it takes so long to get there. 53:25 – Why the value of your business is inversely proportional to its dependency on you. ---- Links & Resources: Game Changers Summit Joey Diaz Armageddon ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like 382. What It Takes to Build a $100M Legal Business 265. Jessica Mogill — Streamlined Operations: Relentless Execution 210. AMMA — Failure Isn't Final: Lessons Learned From Setbacks and Struggles

You can't delegate your longevity to a system that only gets paid when you're sick. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Dr. Bill Kapp, Chief Medical Officer and co-founder of Fountain Life, to explore the cutting edge of longevity science. Dr. Kapp reveals how creating a comprehensive digital twin with 250 gigabytes of personalized health data can detect fatal conditions 20 to 30 years before symptoms appear, why your family doctor is 17 to 20 years behind the latest technology, and how exponential innovations from gene editing to AI-powered diagnostics are reshaping what's possible for extending your healthspan. This conversation cuts through the influencer noise in the longevity space to focus on data-driven approaches backed by science, not hype. Here's what you'll learn: How full-body MRI scans with 10,000 slices and whole genome sequencing create a complete digital twin that enables personalized optimization Why muscle mass is the number one predictor of disease-free longevity and how lifting heavy outweighs everything else you can do Why you need to become the CEO of your own health and stop delegating your longevity to a broken medical system What you don't measure, you can't manage. It's time to become the CEO of your own health. ---- Show Notes: 02:39 – What Fountain Life is and the paradigm shift from symptom-based to proactive care. 12:13 – The comprehensive assessment: what gets measured and why it matters. 16:48 – The real risk of waiting and the airplane maintenance analogy. 20:01 – Genetics versus lifestyle: what's actually in your control. 26:01 – Making longevity technology accessible and what's coming next. 30:34 – Beyond detection: optimizing cellular health, hormones, and mitochondrial function. 41:29 – Longevity escape velocity and whether we can reverse aging in our lifetime. 44:06 – High-performance aging: why 80 doesn't have to mean slowing down. 45:45 – The top 3 takeaways: baseline testing, sleep optimization, and lifting heavy. ---- Links & Resources: Fountain Life Dr. Bill Kapp Tony Robbins Dr. Peter Diamandis Dr. Bob Hariri Why We Sleep by Dr. Matthew Walker ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 396. Why High Performers Can't Afford to Ignore Wellness with Dr. Taz Bhatia 283. Marcus Filly — Fitness Secrets for Professional Success 41. Dave Asprey —Becoming Bulletproof: Living Your Longest and Healthiest Life

Growth doesn't solve problems. It reveals which ones you've been ignoring. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill tackle the leadership challenges that surface as law firms scale. From decision paralysis to team dependencies, this conversation explores why bigger firms face bigger problems and what it takes to lead through them. Michael breaks down the decision-making framework elite CEOs use, why leaders must stop being the bottleneck, and how world-class execution requires being 51% right and moving fast. This episode confronts the uncomfortable truth that your leadership team might look perfect on paper but fail in practice without the right incentives, speed, and simplicity. Here's what you'll learn: Why leadership teams get paralyzed and how to cut through indecision with a clear decision matrix How to stop training your team to depend on you and start building independent problem solvers Why being 51% right beats waiting for perfect information every single time Growth amplifies your leadership gaps. The question is whether you'll address them or let them cap your ceiling. ---- 09:26 – The decision framework elite CEOs use: first-order, second-order, and third-order consequences. 13:54 – The 51% rule: why world-class operators only need to be right half the time to win. 15:20 – Why your leadership team still waits for your approval on everything and the real reason behind the bottleneck. 17:09 – Creating a decision matrix that empowers your team to act without needing you. 19:34 – Why strong individual leaders fail to work as a cohesive team when you scale. 20:12 – Aligning leadership around firm-level metrics that drive collaboration and strategic unity. ---- Links & Resources: Charlie Munger 2024 Commencement Address by Roger Federer at Dartmouth ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 421. AMMA — Scaling Your Firm Starts With the Decisions You're Afraid to Make 339. AMMA — The Growth Blueprint: What It Takes to Build a 7, 8, and 9-Figure Law Firm 140. Chris Ronzio — Building and Leveraging a Business Playbook

Diane and Sean discuss the COVID-era original video game action film, Free Guy. Episode music is, "Fantasy", composed by Mariah Carey, Dave Hall, Chris Frantz, Tina Weymouth, Adrian Belew, Steven Stanley; lyrics by Mariah Carey Chris Frantz, Tina Weymouth; performed by Jodie Comer as featured in the film.-  Our theme song is by Brushy One String-  Artwork by Marlaine LePage-  Why Do We Own This DVD?  Merch available at Teepublic-  Follow the show on social media:-  BlueSky: WhyDoWeOwnThisDVD-  IG: @whydoweownthisdvd- Tumblr: WhyDoWeOwnThisDVD-  Follow Sean's Plants on IG: @lookitmahplants- Watch Sean be bad at video games on TwitchSupport the show

Your heart reveals more about your performance capacity than you think. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Dr. Leah Lagos, clinical psychologist and performance expert, to explore the science of heart rate variability and how a simple breathing practice can transform cognitive performance, emotional regulation, and long-term resilience. From working with elite athletes on the PGA Tour to coaching world leaders and executives, Dr. Lagos breaks down how resonant frequency breathing changes baseline heart rhythms, prevents cognitive fatigue, and allows high performers to make critical decisions without fear. This conversation will equip you with the physiological tools that separate sustained excellence from burnout. Here's what you'll learn: Why heart rate variability is a more reliable indicator of cognitive capacity than most people realize How 15 minutes of resonant frequency breathing twice a day can rewire your nervous system Why comparing your HRV to others is meaningless and what metrics actually matter for performance Want to improve your performance? Start with your heart. ---- Show Notes: 02:58 – Dr. Leah Lagos explains the science of resonant frequency breathing and how it creates homeostasis in the nervous system. 06:20 – Why comparing your HRV to others is meaningless and what metrics actually matter for performance. 12:06 – How chronic stress compounds over time and shows up reliably in your heart rate variability. 13:36 – The lifestyle factors that tank HRV: alcohol, dehydration, excessive caffeine, and who you spend time with. 17:59 – Why HRV training expands prefrontal lobe bandwidth and prevents cognitive fatigue under pressure. 22:35 – How resonant frequency breathing differs from meditation and produces measurable baseline changes in four weeks. 28:45 – The practical protocol: 15 minutes twice a day, finding your resonant frequency, and committing for ten weeks. 37:35 – The role of vagal tone in connecting heart, gut, and brain for better decision-making and health. 39:25 – Why breathwork is a must-have practice for longevity and sustained excellence, not just recovery. ---- Links & Resources: Dr. Leah Lagos Heart Breath Mind by Dr. Leah Lagos Oura Ring WHOOP Garmin Polar Alex Honnold ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 420. The Sleep Science That Separates Elite Performers with Dr. Michael Breus 396. Why High Performers Can't Afford to Ignore Wellness with Dr. Taz Bhatia 125. Health Hackers: Mastering Habits to Operate at Peak Performance

Confusing great culture with unconditional acceptance is one of the fastest ways to destroy a business. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill challenge the belief that accountability and close relationships can't coexist. The conversation begins with Michael reflecting on Steve Wynn's philosophy of creativity and how it applies to standing out in saturated markets, then shifts into three critical questions about culture, accountability, and performance. From diagnosing silent culture problems to justifying special privileges for top performers, this episode tackles the hard truths that most leaders avoid. The tightest cultures are built on standards, not sentiment. Here's what you'll learn: Why creativity is not about invention but about creating contrast between expectation and reality How to maintain accountability and culture simultaneously without confusing the two Why special talent deserves special privileges and how to defend that to your team Unconditional love has no place in business. Unconditional standards do. ---- 02:25 – Michael Mogill explains Steve Wynn's definition of creativity as the clash between thesis and antithesis. 03:54 – How the Game Changers Summit became innovative by defying conference expectations rather than matching them. 11:09 – Jessica Mogill shares how skip-level meetings reveal patterns and uncover real culture problems. 13:43 – Why calling your business a family creates unconditional expectations that destroy accountability. 15:45 – How transparency with performance data prevents resentment when underperformers are let go. 17:39 – Why exceptional performers deserve exceptional privileges and how to defend that decision. 18:52 – The NFL veteran principle: special treatment must be earned daily and can be taken away. ---- Links & Resources: Steve Wynn Video on Creativity The Mirage The Game Changers Summit Fyre Festival The Power of the Dog by Don Winslow ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 394. How to Grow Without Losing Culture (Or Your Sanity) with Varghese Summersett 352. Susan Fowler — Why Everything You Know About Motivating Your Team Might Be Completely Wrong 54. Eric Farber — The Case for Culture

Drama isn't just annoying. It's measurable, costly, and completely avoidable. In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Cy Wakeman, leadership expert, author of No Ego, and founder of Reality-Based Leadership, to unpack the staggering cost of emotional waste in the workplace. From venting and scorekeeping to resisting change and holding organizations hostage, drama silently destroys productivity and engagement. This conversation challenges the conventional wisdom around employee happiness and exposes the hard truths about accountability, leadership myths, and what it really takes to build a high-performing culture. Here's what you'll learn: Why the average employee spends over two hours a day stuck in drama, and what that really costs your firm How to stop managing emotional waste and start building a culture rooted in accountability and results Why popular leadership advice is often based on flawed research, and what the evidence actually says about engagement and performance Stop managing the drama and start building the culture you actually want. ---- Show Notes: 02:56 – Cy Wakeman discusses her mythbusting approach to leadership and why she brings evidence-based research back into HR instead of relying on pop psychology. 05:15 – Understanding the invisible tax that drains productivity and engagement from every team without most leaders realizing it. 06:12 – The cost of workplace drama and why it's affecting far more of your organization than you think. 14:25 – Why the strategies designed to boost engagement often backfire and create the opposite of what leaders intended. 16:09 – The accountability paradox that makes it impossible to satisfy everyone on your team with the same approach. 19:20 – Where leaders should actually invest their time and energy for maximum organizational impact. 24:35 – What really happens when you raise standards and why most leaders are wrong about the consequences. 28:26 – A new framework for measuring employee value that goes far beyond traditional performance reviews. 36:20 – Rethinking generational differences and what younger employees actually bring to high-performing organizations. ---- Links & Resources: No Ego by Cy Wakeman Reality-Based Leadership by Cy Wakeman The Reality-Based Rules of the Workplace by Cy Wakeman Reality-Based Leadership Website ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 369. Your Ego Is Making You Miserable with Cy Wakeman 191. Joey Coleman — Never Lose an Employee Again: The Simple Path to Remarkable Retention 97. Liz Wiseman — Impact Players: How to Take the Lead, Play Bigger, and Multiply Your Impact

Longevity doesn't equal excellence, but somewhere along the way, we started treating it like it does. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill tackle one of the most uncomfortable truths in leadership: tenure is not a metric for promotion. From attorneys demanding partnership based on years served to team members resenting promotions they believe they "deserved," this conversation exposes the friction that happens when loyalty is mistaken for performance. Michael also shares how he's training his daughter to see skills as learnable, not innate, and why the same growth mindset applies to building teams that reward excellence over seniority. Here's what you'll learn: Why rewarding tenure over performance quietly destroys your standards and demoralizes top performers How to define partnership expectations before resentment builds and misalignment festers What to do when you've been delaying a termination decision, and why waiting only makes it worse Time served is not the same as value delivered. This episode is your reminder to lead with clarity, not comfort. ---- 01:57 – Michael introduces his new daily training sessions with his seven-year-old daughter and explains why focus is a trainable skill that nobody teaches. 06:47 – How the triathlon training principle applies to business: success has less to do with natural ability and more to do with time dedicated to practice. 09:26 – An attorney with six years of tenure demands partnership and equity, claiming the firm owner is "moving the goalposts." 14:26 – Why tenure doesn't trump performance, and how to explain promotions based on meritocracy without apology. 18:07 – Michael explains why delaying a termination decision only makes it more painful, and why it will never be easier than today. ---- Links & Resources: Marshmallow Test Lewis Hamilton ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 411. AMMA — What to Do When Everyone Wants Something From You 401. AMMA — From Girl Dad to CEO: The Michael Mogill Playbook 52. Brian Chase — Aligning Passion and Purpose

Most people think they have a revenue problem, but in reality, it's a reputation problem. In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Rory Vaden, co-founder of Brand Builders Group, New York Times bestselling author, and the youngest person ever inducted into the Professional Speaking Hall of Fame. Rory reveals why personal branding isn't about vanity or follower counts, but about the digitization of reputation in an industry where trust determines everything. Through frameworks like Sheehan's Wall and insights from building multiple eight-figure businesses, this conversation challenges the myth that you need to be everywhere, talk about everything, and serve everyone to break through. Here's what you'll learn: Why 58% of Americans want their lawyer to have an established personal brand and how the digitization of reputation drives warm inbound leads in high-trust professions How to break through Sheehan's Wall by identifying your one uniqueness and focusing all your energy on one audience, one problem, and one revenue stream Why serving the person you once were unlocks your most powerful competitive advantage and creates trust that transactions alone never will The biggest personal brands aren't the most talented. They're the most focused. This episode will show you where to aim. ---- Show Notes: 03:43 – Rory shares how he made $250,000 in his summers doing direct sales door-to-door to fund his first company. 09:10 – Why 58% of Americans want their lawyer to have an established personal brand and what that means for the legal industry. 12:08 – Rory introduces Sheehan's Wall and explains why most people fail to break through by being everywhere at once. 16:04 – Larry Winget's transformative advice on finding your uniqueness and exploiting it in the service of others. 28:19 – Rory reveals the shortcut to finding uniqueness by serving the person you once were. 30:33 – John Maxwell's definition of success and why the people who know you best should respect you most. ---- Links & Resources: Brand Builders Group Take the Stairs by Rory Vaden  Sheehan's Wall ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 378. Your Law Firm's Ads Suck: Here's Why (and How to Fix Them) with Billy Gene Shaw 205. Gyi Tsakalakis and Conrad Saam — Marketing Mash-Up: Scalable Strategies from Industry Experts 32. Seth Godin — Putting Your Best Work Out Into the World

J. Warner Wallace is interviewed by Pastor David Fleming of Champion Forest Baptist Church and talks about the importance of becoming a good Christian Case Maker and a specific strategy for selecting those with whom we share what we believe. This excerpt is from a longer interview with apologist Mark Lanier.