Podcast appearances and mentions of debby irving

Debby Irving is a racial justice educator and award-winning author of Waking Up White: Finding Myself in the Story of Race, . Ten years and 275,000-copies later, Waking Up White continues to impact communities all over the country to break through the colorblind and saviorism syndromes of the white experience of racism. The book has been widely read and Educational Study Guides and facilitated workshops have been designed around it. Debby designed the book to read like a memoir yet include educational conversation prompts at the end of each chapter. And, as she hoped and anticipated, educators and book groups adopted Waking Up White to take on this challenging issue. Since publication, Irving has seen interest in understanding racism skyrocket in predominantly white communities, often at the urging of community members of color who use Irving's book as an entrée to how racism operates. As she unpacks her own long-held beliefs about colorblindness, being a good person, and wanting to help people of color, she reveals how each of these well-intentioned mindsets actually perpetuated her ill-conceived ideas about race. Debby will discuss why and how she herself has changed the way she talks about racism, works in racially mixed groups, and understands the racial justice movement as a whole. https://www.audible.com/pd/Waking-Up-White-and-Finding-Myself-in-the-Story-of-Race-Audiobook/B01EINR1M4 https://www.debbyirving.com/the-book/ Joining Debby Irving is Laura Shmishkiss, an equity, diversity and inclusion (EDI) consultant and coach who has committed her life to advancing social and racial justice. She brings 25 years of experience as an organizational leader, trainer, educator and activist in nonprofit organizations and schools. She specializes in equity-based training and facilitation; leadership coaching and development; antiracist practice and organizing; program and curriculum design; EDI strategic planning; and organizational culture development. Throughout her career, Laura has held many leadership roles within the nonprofit and education sectors. Most recently, Laura served as co-Executive Director at Center for Racial Justice in Education, a nonprofit organization that trains educators to dismantle racism wherever children learn. Laura earned a Master's Degree in Public Administration from Columbia University's School of International and Public Affairs, a Bachelor's Degree in Sociology from Colby College, and a teaching certification from San Francisco State University. She holds an ACC coaching certification through the International Coaching Federation (ICF) and is also a trained herbalist. https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurashmishkiss

When Waking Up White: And Finding Myself in the Story of Race launched in January 2014, author Debby Irving provided a “Racism 101” for white people and a rare exposé on whiteness for people of color.  It was the book she wished someone had handed her decades ago. “Like most white Americans, I completely misunderstood what racism was and how it had always been operating in my life and in my white community.” Irving designed the book to read like a memoir yet include educational conversation prompts at the end of each chapter. And, as she hoped and anticipated, educators and book groups adopted Waking Up White to take on this challenging issue. She planned to devote two years to marketing her story to book groups and educators. What Irving did not anticipate was the national eruption of racial and gender tensions that would make daily headlines, driving white communities to her story. With escalating demand for the book, keynote speeches, and related workshops, Irving instead has continued to help educate and inform church groups of many denominations, well known businesses, country clubs, schools of all levels and other community action groups from coast to coast. In the five years since publication, Irving has seen interest in understanding racism skyrocket in predominantly white communities, often at the urging of community members of color who use Irving's book as an entrée to how racism operates. “We are in an immensely teachable moment in which many white people are understanding for the first time just how misled they've been about America's purported level playing field,” explains Irving.  In Waking Up White, Irving her own life to explore the everyday systemic racism that goes largely unnoticed yet perpetuates long-held racialized belief systems. By sharing her sometimes cringe-worthy struggle to understand racism and racial tensions, she offers a fresh perspective on bias, stereotypes, manners, and tolerance. As she unpacks her own long-held beliefs about colorblindness, being a good person, and wanting to help people of color, she reveals how each of these well-intentioned mindsets actually perpetuated her ill-conceived ideas about race. In both the book and in workshops, Irving explains why and how she herself has changed the way she talks about racism, works in racially mixed groups, and understands the racial justice movement as a whole.  Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/arroe-collins-unplugged-totally-uncut--994165/support.

Author and racial justice educator Debby Irving couldn't find a publisher in 2014 for Waking Up White: Finding Myself in the Story of Race, because no one in the industry really understood what a white racial identity memoir would look like.  So she self-published this very readable, very relatable and very successful book that is "...a remarkable and, at times, emotionally searing look at one white woman's struggle to understand racism. It is part memoir and part guide to changing how we think about race...one of the most important books on race in recent memory. “ (Readers and Writers Journal). It has since been also published as an audiobook, earning close to five stars on Audible.  The lifespan of Waking Up White follows a particularly intense historic arc in the ongoing movement for racial justice.   Ten years and 275,000-copies later, Waking Up White continues to impact communities all over the country to break through the colorblind and saviorism syndromes of the white experience of racism.  The book has been read by countless book clubs, campus reads, town reads, DEI reads, church reads, families, the Presbyterian Church, and Regional Read in La Crosse Wisconsin, among many others. It is the Episcopal Church Sacred Ground core book. Educational Study Guides and facilitated workshops have been designed around it.  It is a “life changing book you won't be able to put down,” according to Katie Couric Media. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/arroe-collins-like-it-s-live--4113802/support.

Sadly, race remains one of the most divisive issues in our country. Nevertheless, many of us are yet to fully understand the challenges people of color face on an ongoing basis even today. Debby Irving is joining us once again to share her brave, unflinching journey from white oblivion to white awareness openly chronicled in her book, Waking Up White and Finding Myself in the Story of Race. This is not only a riveting tale of the building awareness that led to Debby's personal wake up call; the book also provides a fascinating look at racial denial and our society's secret acceptance of white privilege. If you care about equality and social justice, you won't want to miss this thought-provoking discussion. Ms. Irving's book provides the mirror to open and honest reflection and it's up to each of us to bring racial consciousness into our minds and into our hearts.

In episode 1970, Andrew talks to Debby Irving, author of WAKING UP WHITE, about how she discovered herself and the story of American racial injustice.Debby Irving brings to racial justice the perspective of working in non-profit organizations and education for 25 years before understanding racism as systemic or her own whiteness as an obstacle to grappling with it. Despite attending diversity workshops and even heading a diversity committee during these years, she struggled to make sense of racial dynamics she could feel but not explain. At the age of 48, a Wheelock College graduate school course titled Racial and Cultural Identities finally gave her the answers she'd been looking for, launching her on a journey of discovery. Debby now devotes herself to working with people exploring the impact whiteness can have on perception, problem solving, system design, culture shifting, creating racially diverse work teams and communities, and individual and collective human development. Her New York Times bestseller, Waking Up White, tells the story of how she went from well-meaning to well-doing. Her book, workshops, keynotes, community dialogs, TED Talk, online videos, blog, and frequent media commentary have become staples in the national discourse on the role of “good” white people in perpetuating racism. A graduate of the Winsor School in Boston, she holds a BA in History from Kenyon College and an MBA from Simmons College.Keen On is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.Named as one of the "100 most connected men" by GQ magazine, Andrew Keen is amongst the world's best known broadcasters and commentators. In addition to presenting KEEN ON, he is the host of the long-running How To Fix Democracy show. He is also the author of four prescient books about digital technology: CULT OF THE AMATEUR, DIGITAL VERTIGO, THE INTERNET IS NOT THE ANSWER and HOW TO FIX THE FUTURE. Andrew lives in San Francisco, is married to Cassandra Knight, Google's VP of Litigation & Discovery, and has two grown children. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit keenon.substack.com/subscribe

Roger Moreano, founder and president of Bridges 4 Justice (and former staff member at Carthage College) talks about Racism. He will be facilitating a so-called Courageous Conversation about racism this Thursday evening at Kenosha's Civil War Museum. - -- The program finishes out with an excerpt from a 2014 interview with Debby Irving, author of a memoir called "Waking Up White- and finding myself in the story of race."

Part one: Writer Wendy Sanford reveals the origins of her memoir about friendship across race and class and her evolving relationship and collaboration with Mary Norman. Part two: Wendy Sanford reads from These Walls Between us https://www.wendysanford-thesewallsbetweenus.com/ Part three: a SoundSlice from Northern London Hear Wendy talk about the groundbreaking women's health book, "Our Bodies, Ourselves" https://soundcloud.com/peterson-thomas-toscano/female-body?si=6d70fddacd444dd19a0a20097fccb038&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing Like One of the Family by Alice Childress https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803100105640;jsessionid=0E3320BF5ACFAC24E87D4B10EB60ED19 The Bubble&Squeak theme song is Worthless. by The jellyrox from the album Bang and a whimper. You can find it on iTunes, Spotify, of wherever you listen to music. To find more great music and new podcasts visit www.rockcandyrecordings.com Feel free to say hi to me Twitter. @p2son Praise for The Walls Between Us: “These Walls Between Us is a powerful book with an important lesson that we all must learn in trying to understand others.” —Reverend John Reynolds, author of The Fight for Freedom: A Memoir of My Years in the Civil Rights Movement “A tender, honest, cringeworthy, and powerful read.” —Debby Irving, Author of Waking Up White, and Finding Myself in the Story of Race "I've never read a memoir that is so consistently courageous." —George Lakey, Author of Dancing with History: A Life for Peace and Justice “Wendy Sanford is doing the work that only she can do!” —Byllye Avery, Founder, Black Women's Health Imperative.

Welcome back to the Fake Ass Book Club!! This week the ladies discuss "Blocks", a Netflix Comedy Show, by Neal Brennan with comedian Deon Curry. Deon's debut on the show last year is notorious. Kat dragged his book choice “Milk in my Coffee" so hard, they weren't sure he'd show up this time!!

What should we say when a young child expresses or experiences racial bias? Maybe it's when a child makes a comment about somebody's skin color being ‘too dark' or how they don't want to play with a child of a different race. Or maybe it's when a child has experienced racial bullying or some other kind of racialized incident in the classroom. As adults, we may find ourselves reacting or freezing up in these moments. A healthier response is to prepare what early childhood education professor and scholar Dr. Rosemarie Allen calls “a treasure chest” of ready responses for disrupting racial bias in the moment.    Guest: Dr. Rosemarie Allen MPR Dr. Rosemarie Allen, guest on Early Risers podcast Dr. Rosemarie Allen is a national leader around racial equity in early childhood. She's an associate professor in the School of Education at Metropolitan State University of Denver and is founder, president and CEO of the Center for Equity and Excellence, a consulting firm specializing in racial equity and inclusion. Episode Resources: Dr. Allen has authored two children's books about Black hair, “Stylish and Straight,” and “Cute and Curly.” She wrote these books in part, to provide white teachers with a window into the daily routines and lived experiences of Black children in their classrooms. Here are some other book titles and authors Dr. Allen recommends: How to Be an Antiracist by Dr. Ibram X. Kendi. Dr. Allen describes this book as a must- read for all educators. Waking up White by Debby Irving – a chronicle of a white educator's equity journey. The Proudest Blue: A Story of Hijab and Family by Ibtihaj Muhammad – a children's book about a Muslim girl's pride in wearing her hijab and how she responds to bullies at school. Hair Love by Matthew A. Cherry – a children's book that celebrates the beauty of Black hair and a father's love for his daughter. Spare the Kids by Dr. Stacey Patton – a book for adults that unpacks the harm of using corporeal punishment as a means of disciplining Black children. Dr. Allen also recommends Dr. Patton's workshop on decolonizing Black parenting. Dr. Allen participated in a virtual panel discussion, “Teaching Anti-Racism: Making Sense of Race and Racism for Young Children” hosted by Minnesota Public Radio and Early Risers in June 2021. We also recommend Dr. Allen's 2016 TEDx talk “School suspensions are an adult behavior,” where she talks about the epidemic of school suspensions in pre-school settings and how children of color are disproportionately impacted.

After 25 years as a senior leader in tech, Karen Catlin saw a decline in the numbers of women in tech. Frustrated but galvanized, Karen became an author and coach focusing on helping women navigate the male-dominated tech industry and coaching men to be better allies. In this episode, we discuss hiring for a “culture add” and other tips to create a more inclusive workplace. Subscribe!  Time-stamped show notes are below. You can find a transcript of this episode on our webpage (link below). If you would like to learn more about today's topic: Better Allies: Everyday Actions to Create More Inclusive, Engaging Workplaces by Karen Catlin Better Allies Approach to Hiring by Karen Catlin Waking Up White by Debby Irving 20 Books to Help Break the Bias for a More Gender Equal World Today's guest is Karen Catlin - this is part 2 of a 2-part conversation 1:09 Do women need to explain bias in different ways so male allies better understand 2:17 What should male allies do if a woman discusses her experience with gender bias 3:40 How to move from being a bystander to an upstander  4:13, 7:37 Does the U.S. being so litigious hamper conversations about gender bias 5:50 Story of a male boss who says “my wife will be jealous if I interact with female colleagues," how this view helps men get ahead of women, and strategies to counter 9:25 Job description best practices 10:10 Rethink whether a college degree is necessary for all jobs 10:45 Check job descriptions for masculine word choices like rockstar, driven, aggressive, and “right-hand man” because some women won't apply  12:40 Use diverse hiring panels so applicants see themselves on the hiring team 13:51 It's not challenging to find women applicants if you look in the right places and have the right hiring practices 14:50 The difference between a “culture fit” and a “culture add” - we need more “culture adds” and less “culture fits” in organizations today 19:18 Per Dr. Talitha Washington at Spelman College, HBCUs are excellent places to find Black women for STEM and other roles  17:40 Women receive less actionable feedback than men 18:45 The danger of “benevolent sexism” and “gatekeeping” 19:45 Story about male employee saying that a woman wouldn't want a role because of her young children 21:48 Strategies when people are resistant to change - focus on what you can do and don't worry about everyone else 22:35 How to be a “ripple” within your organization 23:25 How to incent people to be better allies through compensation and bonuses 24:21 “Stop trying to change women” is an element of the Parity Prescription 25:20 Strategies to adapt the workplace to be more inclusive of all instead of pressuring women and other people who are underrepresented to change 30:15 Confirmation hearing of Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson 30:45 Harmful effect of extra credential questioning to try to cast doubt on qualifications 32:38 Women and other people who are underrepresented face “prove it again” bias Where You Can Find Us Website: www.par-ity.com  Follow us on Instagram, Twitter and LinkedIn Co-Hosts: Deborah Pollack-Milgate and Cathy Nestrick  Email CathyAndDeborah@par-ity.com with questions or comments

After 25 years as a senior leader in tech, Karen Catlin saw a decline in the numbers of women in tech. Frustrated but galvanized, Karen became an author and coach focusing on helping women navigate the male-dominated tech industry and coaching men to be better allies. In this episode, Karen gives us 10 tips to be better allies. Subscribe!  Time-stamped show notes are below.  If you would like to learn more about today's topic: Better Allies: Everyday Actions to Create More Inclusive, Engaging Workplaces Karen Catlin's list of 50 privileges Waking Up White by Debby Irving 20 Books to Help Break the Bias for a More Gender Equal World 1:28 Introduction of Karen Catlin 5:12 What to do if a woman's idea is hijacked in a meeting 8:09 How to understand your own privilege 14:11 How to talk to people who are resistant to change 17:09 Advocate by finding common ground and describing your own learning journey 19:27 Allies will make mistakes 21:47 How to avoid “Just Like Me Networks” 26:52 How White women can be better allies for Black and other women of color 34:42 Practice makes perfect

You know around here we love a good “Dear…” title, especially when it starts with “Dear White Women.” That's why we were excited to sit down with this week's guests because Kimberlee's book title alone had us at “Dear White Women” (for obvious reasons, friends).  Her full book title is “Dear White Women, Please Come Home: Hand Me Your Bias and I'll Show You Our Connection” and once we started reading it, we couldn't put it down, due to its unique format and powerful message.   And this week, we have not only Kimberlee Williams, who is the author of the book we'll be talking about, but we also have Debby Irving, the author of Waking Up White, which was one of the first books Sara read when we started this podcast - and who is also Kimberlee's forward writer and publisher.  Together, we unpack why the title (of course), reactions to this book, cross-racial friendships, and so much more.    What to listen for:  What makes interracial friendships between women possible? Why Debby, as a White woman, offered her partnership and platform to help get Kimberlee's message out to the world All about the unique structure of Kimberlee's book   ​​About the Author, Kimberlee Williams:   ​​Hailing from the nation's capital with huge hair, a million-watt smile, and contagious laughter, Kimberlee Yolanda Williams has had a heart for the perceived underdog for as long as she can remember. From her earliest years, Kimberlee's experiences unfolded in communities filled with diversity of every kind, where gatherings around topics of equity and inclusion were explored with courageous authenticity. She grew up thinking engaging across differences was something everyone wanted to do and knew how to do. So why didn't they do it? As an educator, DEI administrator, consultant, workshop leader, speaker, and certified life and health coach, she has found herself in a variety of U.S. cities. With each new context she increasingly understood what held people back from crossing social divisions. Kimberlee found herself able to consciously place herself in the center of these divisions, in particular racial dynamics, and support people across the racial spectrum in stepping closer to one another. Kimberlee is first and foremost a humanist, a deep believer in what is possible when humanity is centered. Her mix of authenticity and raw truth gives permission for those around her to choose progress over perfection and bring their full selves into the room. She is known for finding humor and challenge at just the right moments, and like the best of coaches, leaning in and pushing audiences just enough to believe in the potential she sees. Her approach of connection and compassion is what makes a consultation feel like a conversation with your best friend, a workshop feel like a workout with your favorite trainer, and a presentation feel like a present from your closest confidant.  Kimberlee received a B.A. in Foreign Language Education from the University of Maryland (go Terps!) and an M.S. in Education from Dominican University. She currently lives in Seattle with her partner, where they refuel by being in community (with other folks of color), reading and reading some more, and relaxing near any body of water. In addition to all of the above, Kimberlee is a daughter, a granddaughter, a sister, a cousin, an aunt, a niece, a dancer, an avid learner of languages (five to date), a free spirit, an empath, and now a writer. Dear White Woman, Please Come Home is Kimberlee's attempt to share with readers what her clients, workshop attendees, and audience members have felt for years. She always brings her full self, her DC flare, her sass, and her humor. She's the best friend you didn't know you had.   About Debby Irving:    Debby Irving brings to racial justice the perspective of working in non-profit organizations and education for 25 years before understanding racism as systemic or her own whiteness as an obstacle to grappling with it. Despite attending diversity workshops and even heading a diversity committee during these years, she struggled to make sense of racial dynamics she could feel but not explain. At the age of 48, a Wheelock College graduate school course titled Racial and Cultural Identities finally gave her the answers she'd been looking for, launching her on a journey of discovery. Debby now devotes herself to working with people exploring the impact whiteness can have on perception, problem solving, system design, culture shifting, creating racially diverse work teams and communities, and individual and collective human development. Her New York Times bestseller, Waking Up White, tells the story of how she went from well-meaning to well-doing. Her book, workshops, keynotes, community dialogs, TED Talk, online videos, blog, and frequent media commentary have become staples in the national discourse on the role of “good” white people in perpetuating racism. A graduate of the Winsor School in Boston, she holds a BA in History from Kenyon College and an MBA from Simmons College. For more on Debby, visit: https://www.debbyirving.com/about/ 

In her new book, Kimberlee Williams highlights the positive side of sisterhood, the myriad ways in which women of all backgrounds and races can stand up for one another. She shares about her own experiences with racism in many forms, about the intersection of her various identities as a black, queer, disabled woman, and all in a way that is approachable and encourages questions and growth. In this episode we are joined by Debby Irving, Kimberlee's friend and publisher, to talk about cross-racial friendships, the omnipresence of race in America, and the power of true authentic relationships.

Guests: Authors Kimberlee Williams and Debby Irving Kimberlee Williams, in her book Dear White Woman, Please Come Home (which Debby Irving edited and helped publish) dreams of finding her “missing” white sister. With vulnerability, sorrow, rage, and humor, Kimberlee explores through a series of letters how white women, often despite their best intentions, signal to her and other women of color to proceed with caution when in their presence. Based on real events, each letter serves as testimony to the micro-aggressions that undermine and make invisible Black and brown women, and make relationships difficult or impossible.    My guests, Kimberlee Williams and Debby Irving, and I discuss: How, as white, brown, and Black women, we are wired to protect our sense of belonging, which keeps us in the bubble of our own experiences; That historically, the role of women of color has been to serve, comfort, protect, coddle, nourish, and elevate white women;  How we can boldly disrupt that pattern; and  The need for all women to bravely and honestly face our own beliefs and attitudes, so we can look upon and care about one another as sisters.  

Guest: Debby Irving, Author and Racial Justice Educator I recently gave Debby's book Waking Up White and Finding Myself in the Story of Race to my 97-year-old mother. Each day when we speak, Mom shares how the book is impacting her. She feels guilt, anger, sadness, powerlessness, and compassion. She also shares how the book has opened her heart to the reality of the culture in which she was raised. And that even at her advanced age, she wants to be an instrument for positive change.  My guest, Debby Irving, and I discuss: The importance of white people realizing that they benefit from a prejudicial system simply because they are white;  The truth about how the economic and social playing fields were never level between white people and those who are black and brown;  How systemic racism is woven into every political, social, institutional, and religious structure; and  The difference between well-meaning and well-doing. 

Joining me for this episode are authors Kimberlee Williams and Debby Irving. Kimberlee's new book is "Dear White Woman, Please Come Home." It is a series of 40 letters to a fictional missing white sister. Williams explores with many emotions how white women, often despite their best intentions signal to her and other Black women to proceed with caution when around them. These fictional letters are based on real events and serve as testimonies to the microaggressions that undermine and make Black and Brown women feel invisible and real friendships/relationships with white women difficult if not impossible.

Debby Irving spent the first few chapters of her life outside Boston in a town not so different from Sonoma. After a long career in non-profits she decided to pursue a masters degree where she ended up exploring the roots of her upbringing in an unexpected and illuminating way. The discoveries she made informed her award-winning book, "Waking Up White," which chronicle her journey towards a better understanding of race in America. In our conversation we discuss some of the history of discrimination in America, the challenges we all face, and some enlightening possibilities for self-discovery and improvement.

Debby Irving's memoir, "Waking Up White: And Finding Myself in the Story of Race," has become a must-read for folks engaged in racial justice work and diversity, equity and inclusion transformation. In this episode of Intentionally Act Now, Dr. Atyia Martin, CEO and Founder of All Aces, Inc., sits down with Debby to discuss her book and both of their ongoing racial equity journeys – how they began and where they are now. Changing consciousness arises as a central theme of this discussion but only as the first step of a much longer and transformative process. Join us on IntentionallyAct.com to share your comments, questions and thoughts on this discussion!

Zerlina and Jess welcome educators Claudia Fox Tree and Debby Irving to talk about their 21-Day Racial Equity Indigenous Challenge, which is a free, online tool for individuals and groups to quickly increase their knowledge and social media connections to Native voices. 

As we remember the life and work of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., we revisit some of the conversations about racial justice that are happening today. After George Floyd was killed by police in Minneapolis last May, parents of Black and brown children were again forced to have “the talk” – conversations with their children about what it means to be racially profiled or mistreated by law enforcement. There was also an outpouring of support for the Black Live Matter movement, and a desire by a lot of white Minnesotans to do more to help racial justice causes. Being an ally isn’t about retweeting a hashtag or posting on social media. It’s about doing the work, listening more, reading and educating ourselves to foster real change. To continue learning, check out Your Black Friends Are Busy — a growing portal of anti-racism resources. How to: Practice antiracism and be a white ally Having "the talk" Tough conversations with Black children about police, race Guests: Priska Neely is a journalist. She published an essay called “Please stop ‘checking in on me to see if I’m OK.’” Sarah Bellamy is the artistic director at Penumbra Theatre Co. in St. Paul. She published an essay called “Performing Whiteness.” Debby Irving is a racial justice educator and author of "Waking Up White: And Finding Myself in the Story of Race." She also created the 21-day Racial Equity Habit Building Challenge. Jason Sole is a criminal justice educator, professor at Hamline University, past president of the Minneapolis NAACP and co-founder of the Humanize My Hoodie Movement. Michael Walker is the director of Black Male Achievement for Minneapolis Public Schools. Use the audio player above to listen to back to those conversations. Subscribe to the MPR News with Angela Davis podcast on: Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify or RSS.

Long ago, Debby Irving dedicated her life to making the world a more enlightened place, one lesson at a time...ironically, she ended up becoming the student. Her career as an educator changed her view of the racial dynamics that define life in America. In this thought-provoking discussion, Irving endeavors to deconstruct the concept of ¨whiteness¨ and highlight the inherent danger of white ignorance.

Rev. Anne Kirchmier talks to her friend, Sobi Walton, about racism. Sobi shares her experiences as an African-American woman in the military and in daily life in America. She also shares resources and her own ideas about creating change. Timestamps: 0:00-2:55: Introduction 2:56-20:19: Sobi and Anne's Conversation 2:56-3:08: How are you? 3:48-5:32: What is the current situation pertaining to racism like for you, your family, and your congregation? 6:17-8:07: How have you, in your life or your family's life, experienced racism? 8:29-14:18: What can White Christians do to be allies? 14:31-17:24: What gives you hope? 18:03-20:19: Joint Prayer, the Lord's Prayer 20:19-21:25: Conclusion Referenced in this episode: A Class Divided - Frontline (Jane Elliot's “Blue Eyes/ Brown Eyes” Exercise): https://youtu.be/1mcCLm_LwpE Of One Blood: How Did We Get Here? Race is an Idea - Part 1 by Yvita Marcus Learn more and order: https://www.ofonebloodbook.com/about-the-book/ Waking Up White by Debby Irving: https://debbyirving.com/the-book/ Learn more about racism and ways to fight it: https://www.naacpldf.org/ https://episcopalchurch.org/responding-to-racist-violence Get information on how to register to vote where you live: https://vote.gov/ Wherever you are in your faith journey, we are here to support you in any way: http://www.standrews-episcopal.org/ https://www.facebook.com/standrewsnewportnews/

From 2014 comes an especially thought-provoking conversation about race and racism - and about the racist attitudes that many of us may be harboring without even knowing it. Debby Irving's book is titled "Waking Up White- and Finding Myself in the Story of Race."

In 2018, a science teacher chose to hang a Pride flag in her classroom in a public school. She was disciplined and removed from the classroom for 5 days as a result of her decision. In this week's TSL Bonus Podcast, hear Shannon Fisher's powerful and important story of what happened when trying to create safe and inclusive classrooms for her students, what she learned through this experience and how she processed this as an educator. Resources:Anti-Racism Center link here Book: Waking up White by Debby Irving link here More TSL:Join the Teaching Saves Lives Patreon Community hereYou can find the Teaching Saves Lives website hereTeaching Saves Lives Instagram hereTeaching Saves Lives Twitter here

This week I sit down with Shannon Fisher, both my colleague and a powerful science teacher. We discuss all things relationship building, anti-racism education, and what it is actually like to teach in conservative communities that might not be supportive of such work. This conversation is one not to miss; you'll find yourself inspired and motivated to begin the work within your own school!Resources:Anti-Racism Center link here Book: Waking up White by Debby Irving link here More TSL:Join the Teaching Saves Lives Patreon Community hereYou can find the Teaching Saves Lives website hereTeaching Saves Lives Instagram hereTeaching Saves Lives Twitter here

On this episode of “Active Allyship…it's more than a #hashtag!” Sunni and Lisa discuss moments of awakening in the realm of social justice with Debby Irving during The 21-Day Racial Equity Habit Building Challenge interview.  On their newly introduced segment called, “Did you Know?” Sunni and Lisa tackle another painful reminder of what it's like to be black in America - the Aurora Police incident in which a black mother and her children were wrongfully detained and made to lie facedown on hot asphalt. Straight B.S., but you'll have to listen to get our thoughts on the matter.There is so much taking place in these United States of America, to include being in the midst of “two pandemics and a revolution”.  We know you're wondering, what two pandemics? Well, put your earphones on and have a listen! Hint: white supremacy is a pandemic!  Anyway, we wanted to share tools that would be useful in assisting to bridge the gap, creating a better understanding.  The 21- Day Racial Equity Habit Building Challenge interview with Debby Irving is informative, eye-opening and quite honestly, rather revealing.  Debby shares what she was “marinated” in as a child growing up in white suburbia and the impact it had on her life, mentally, emotionally and physically.  Transparency is the word that comes to mind when listening to this conversation.  Debbie is very transparent about her upbringing and the connection to her “awakening”.  Now, back to The 21- Day Racial Equity Habit Challenge, (which by the way, “was first hatched by Dr. Eddie Moore Jr.” fingers crossed, we'll have him on the show as well), this tool provides a variety of options for engagement and learning - “For 21 days, do one action to further your understanding of power, privilege, supremacy, oppression and equity.”  If you haven't already, join our Active Allyship…it's more than a #hashtag! Facebook Group to participate in the challenge we are launching. Our goal is to inform, engage and act!  Yes, the word “ally” is a verb, requiring action - no nouns around here!Cali by Wataboi https://soundcloud.com/wataboiCreative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0Free Download / Stream:  https://bit.ly/wataboi-caliMusic promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/qXptaqHIH5g

Sarah and Garrett discuss Waking Up White by Debby Irving. You can find more information on Debby Irving's work and the book here: https://debbyirving.com/the-book/Support the show (http://paypal.me/textualintercourse)

Everyday Rockstar (0:00:00) Lisa and Richie talk with this week's featured Everyday Rockstar. You can nominate yourself or someone you know by emailing thelisashow@byu.edu   Photography 101 (0:08:06) Have you ever tried to get into photography as a hobby? In recent years, it seems everyone wants to be a photographer. Photography is an extraordinary art form that allows us to capture our most cherished moments in a beautiful way. It can also be a good side hustle. However, between apertures, ISOs, and white balances, the overwhelming amount of information required to do it well can be enough to make anyone set their DSLR down. So today, we wanted to go over some photography basics with someone who knows their stuff. We're joined today by Todd Vorenkamp, a photographic artist and college instructor, here to lead us through what we'd need to know to get started with photography.   Stop Overshopping (0:27:26) Retail therapy—it makes all of us feel a little bit better right? That is until you get home and realize in horror how much money you spent. For a lot of us, that sinking feeling can be enough to prevent a repeat event. However, sometimes the high of a good shop overpowers the low of the sky-high number on the receipt. Statistics on compulsive shopping behavior are difficult to come by, but it's generally believed that between 5-11% of the American population could be considered shopaholics. On the high end, that's about 1 in 10 Americans. That's a good chunk of us. Here to talk to us today about how to recognize the signs of compulsive shopping and what strategies can be employed to break the bad habit is overshopping expert Carrie Rattle.   Kitchen Organization (0:43:34) Our kitchens are the center of our homes. They're where we cook, meet, and eat with our family and friends. They're where we start and end our days and they help us to reconnect with our loved ones. But they can also get messy and cluttered and end up causing us more stress than they relieve. Here to teach us ways in which we can make our kitchen most efficient and discuss all things kitchen organization is professional organizer and founder and head educator of Organize With Faith, Faith Roberson.   Closing the Generational Gap (0:52:45) Do you ever feel like communicating with another generation is like trying to talk to someone in a different language? Younger or older—there's something about those few years that can feel cavernous. It can be frustrating—especially during times of crisis...say a pandemic? Communicating is crucial. So, what can we do to close this generational gap right now? Here to share her advice with us is Dr. Joanna Massey crisis communication expert and author of Culture Shock: Surviving Five Generations in One Workplace.   Racial Equity Habit-Building (1:17:29) Protests around the country have left many of us wondering what we can do to help end racism in our own communities. But it's hard to know where to start with so many books, podcasts, and films at our fingertips. But what if we told you there was a 21-day challenge already set up for you to learn more about racism AND build good habits in support of racial equality? Debby Irving, a racial justice educator and trainer, and Dr. Marguerite Penick-Parks, a higher education expert, have developed a 21-Day Racial Equity Habit Building Challenge. We've invited Debby on the show to tell us more about it.   The Future of American Football (1:30:42) As COVID carries on, different aspects of the life we knew before the pandemic also continue to adapt. One thing that is going to look a lot different this fall is football. Americans love football. It generates billions of dollars a year. But how will it be affected this year? Football fans are curious, and even a little anxious, about what's in store for the sport this coming season. To help us better understand the future of pro football, we've invited the director of archives and football information for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Jon Kendle, to share the changes we'll see this year and how they will affect the future of the sport.

Todd Vorenkamp gives photography tips, Carrie Rattle explains how to not overshop, Faith Roberson teaches how to organize a kitchen, Joanna Massey discusses bridging generational gaps, Debby Irving gives tips for fighting inequality, Jon Kendle talks about the future of football.

Weekly JourneywithJesus.net postings, read by Debie Thomas. Essay by Debie Thomas: *The Limp and the Blessing* for Sunday, 2 August 2020; book review by Dan Clendenin: *Waking Up White And Finding Myself in the Story of Race* by Debby Irving (2014); film review by Dan Clendenin: *The African Americans: Many Rivers to Cross* (2013); poem selected by Dan Clendenin: *The Observer* by Rainer Maria Rilke.

"It takes a lot of skill to be a human being." Debby Irving is a racial justice educator and the author of Waking Up White. In this episode, Debby shares the power of the Process and how it can change the trajectory of your life. Halfway through the Process, Debby had a recurring vision in which she saw how much love she has in her heart for others and how this love was meant to be shared with the world. After leaving the Process, Debby's vision began to guide her life. She started graduate school where enrolled in a course called Racial and Cultural Identities. With all of the 'big-hearted-ness' she'd found at the Process, she opened to a new understanding of white identity, oppression, and racial injustice. Her heart grew heavy with this understanding. Upon leaving school, Debby knew she must heal the heaviness in her heart by diving into the work of anti-racism and activism. Debby travels the country, leading workshops and presentations. She explores the impact white skin can have on perception. And, she guides people on how to help themselves and others change misconceptions and attitudes. Debby shares her journey of seeing the world through her own white-skewed belief system in order to question the racial disparities she could see and feel. Find out more about Debby and her work here. Subscribe on iTunes.

In this week’s episode, Katie talks to Racial Justice Educator and author of Waking Up White and Finding Myself in the Story of Race, Debby Irving. Katie and Debby open up about recognizing and examining their own privilege, everyday habits to cultivate to build racial equity, and resources to enrich your child’s education around matters of race. Later, Katie welcomes Dr. Margaret Hagerman, Assistant Professor of Sociology at Mississippi State University and author of White Kids: Growing Up with Privilege in a Racially Divided America, who discussed that even with good intentions, the choices that we make for our children can widen the racial divide.  Crib Notes: https://debbyirving.com/ - Debby Irving’s website https://debbyirving.com/the-book/ - Waking Up White and Finding Myself in the Story of Race by Debby Irving. https://debbyirving.com/recommended-resources/ - Resources list https://www.eddiemoorejr.com/ - Dr. Eddie Moore Jr. https://www.whiteprivilegeconference.com/ - The White Privilege Conference https://www.eddiemoorejr.com/21daychallenge - 21 Day Racial Equity Challenge https://robindiangelo.com/ - Robin DiAngelo, author of White Fragility https://www.margarethagerman.com/ - Dr. Margaret Hagerman’s website https://www.margarethagerman.com/research.html - Research studies https://nyupress.org/9781479803682/white-kids/ - White Kids: Growing Up with Privilege in a Racially Divided America - by Dr. Margaret Hagerman

Episode Contents:00:00 - Introduction to Our Guest: Debby Irving, author of Waking Up White03:41 - What is the 21-Day Racial Equity Habit Building Challenge?09:09 - Why having multiple methods of learning and exposure to different perspectives is a critical part of learning about our own whiteness.13:25 - “I realized I was the problem.” How a six-month course at Wheelock College helped Debby shift her focus from promoting diversity -- or “pretend anti-racism work” to interrogating her own whiteness.18:28 - How Debby made the psychological transition from an egocentric reaction upon seeing her own investment in whiteness and white supremacy design (from shame and embarrassment) to taking transformative action and embracing interconnectedness.24:59 - Why deconstructing white supremacy is spiritual work and how it relates to Debby’s next book26:38 - Why the myth of meritocracy is a key part of upholding white supremacy and why “nice people” are such easy targets.30:36 - What is the difference between being kind, the culture of interdependence, and “being nice” or “being polite.” What does it have to do with the culture of whiteness? How is it oppressive? How does it create emotional immaturity and an inability to deal with complexity?39:34 - How whiteness disembodied us from ourselves and trains us out of our humanity.41:48 - “Law and order starting with the individual.” The incentive for designing a society to train people out of their full humanity?46:33 - You are expected to leave your human at home if you want access to the rewards of this society, no matter how emotionally sound you are. Hierarchy takes away the need to be accountable to each other.51:14 - Debby teaches Chris how being intentional with language can interrupt ego, perfectionism, individuality, and attachment to white power structures.53:17 - How Debbie sees the possibility of a future in which white people do the work to confront and deconstruct white power structures in themselves and in the world around them.Where to Find Debby Irving:www.debbyirving.com Events - https://debbyirving.com/scheduleInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/debby_irving Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/DebbyIrvingAuthorTwitter - https://twitter.com/debbyirvingLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/debby-irving-a9424267Homework:21-Day Racial Equity Habit Building Challenge - https://debbyirving.com/21-day-challenge/Dr. Eddie Moore Jr - https://www.eddiemoorejr.comThe Privilege Institute - https://www.theprivilegeinstitute.comWaking Up White - https://debbyirving.com/the-bookMedia References:Race the Power of an Illusion - https://www.racepowerofanillusion.orgBoston University, Wheelock College of Education & Human Development - Course SED ED 505 - http://www.bu.edu/academics/wheelock/courses/sed-ed-505

How might we have better conversations about tough topics like race, sexuality, religion, politics, and mental health? How can we reduce social stigma?Today my guest is Dr. Adrienne Williams (@AAWilliamsPhD), a clinical health psychologist based in Chicago, who specializes in sexuality and gender. She provides therapy for anxiety and depression, and her work with sexuality and gender includes sexual abuse/assault, sexual orientation, and trans*gender care. She is a vocal advocate for primary mental health providers, and breaking down the stigma around mental health. I wanted to speak with Adrienne about her general work and motivations in these areas, but I also wanted to speak with her about the challenges of mental health during Covid-19 and also during the BLM movement. This is a fascinating and wide-ranging conversation. We discuss sexuality, faith, mental health, race, gender, and a whole lot more. One thing that I love about speaking with Adrienne is that she doesn't shy away from talking about tough topics. Instead, she embraces them. And a lot of her work is devoted to helping people have those hard conversations, and to break down the stigma around them. Resources:We Need Primary Mental Health Providers, by Adrienne Williams (op-ed) Book Recommendations:How to be an Anti-Racist, by Ibram X. KendiWhite Fragility, by Robin DiAngeloWaking Up White, by Debby Irving

What is BIPOC? Can I say "trans" without offending people? How many letters are supposed to be in LGBTQIA and what do they all mean?! In honor and recognition of Pride Month, Black Lives Matter, social justice, and minority mental health, Ashley and Andrea devote this podcast to highlighting the unique struggles faced by people who identify with multiple marginalized identities and talk about ways we can all be better allies.* Learning the language is an important first step if you want to engage in conversations about race, disparities, and justice. Ashley uses the UC Davis LGBTQIA Resource Center Glossary to define several words that keep popping up in the news and which ones are most appropriate to use. Andrea shares the Project Implicit website and the quizzes you can take to uncover your hidden biases about race, gender, age, disability, and more. There's also a 21 Day Racial Equity Challenge where you do one action to further your understanding of power, privilege, supremacy, oppression, and equity each day for 21 days. If you love checklists, definitely try Dr. John Raible's Checklist for Allies Against Racism. Read through the checklist to get a feel for what constitutes ally behavior on the part of anti-racists, and think about how often and how consistently you do any or all of them. Other great resources: The Angry Black Woman: The Do's and Don'ts of Being a Good Ally The White Ally Toolkit/Ally Conversation Toolkit helps anti-racism allies do their part in the fight against racism by empowering and equipping them with best practice communications skills based on listening, storytelling, and compassion. Racial justice educator and writer Debby Irving, on her website, gives us "a small sampling of what the racial justice community has offer." Safe Space Radio: Talking to White Kids About Race & Racism. MHA and NAMI have all the data you want related to Prevalence of Mental Health Conditions in Specific Populations. The Netflix documentary, 13th, reviews the Thirteenth Amendment and analyzes the criminalization of African Americans and the U.S. prison boom. If you want to donate, here's a list of Black Lives Matter and Black Lives Matter LGBTQ charities who need support. *Ashley and Andrea 100% recognize their privilege as white women and want to connect people with the experts and tools they need to engage in important conversations. Buy the book, There's an Elephant in Your Office, on our website elephantinyouroffice.com or on Amazon. Hire us to train your workforce on incorporating mental health into all kinds of businesses. Find us on social - Instagram @elephantinyouroffice; FB @ASJexplains

We are the first to admit that we are two women of privilege. The topic of race is a messy one for us, we want to be good humans who raise (or influence) good humans. We both want to do better, we want to seek to understand. On May 8, 2020 runners (and walkers) of the world started a movement #irunwithmaud in honor of Ahmaud Arbery. He was out jogging near his home on a Sunday afternoon in Brunswick, GA on February 23, 2020, when two white supremacists, chased him down, shot and killed him. May 8, 2020 would have been his 26th birthday, his life deserves justice, his life mattered. What we both know and feel is that a life ended tragically short. It was senseless, the ripple effect of loss of life is far reaching, we feel for his mother who had to spend Mothers’ Day without her son just days after a first birthday, and all the other firsts yet to come. We’d love to continue a conversation, what books have you read on white privilege or race? How can we continue to do more beyond a hashtag? It’s all our responsibility to overcome racism. We are in this together.  http://runwithmaud.com A book that Michelle referenced in the show is Waking Up White: And Finding Myself in the Story of Race by Debby Irving. Oshkosh had a nonprofit FIT Oshkosh, sadly COVID is listed as one of the reasons it closed. In the short time it existed there was great work done to engage the community in conversation regarding race.  #thegoodlifegirls #podcast #realife #itsmessy #whiteprivilege #blacklivesmatter #alllivesmatter #seektounderstand #IRunWithMaud Find us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheGoodLifeGirlsPodcast  Find us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/goodlifegirlspodcast/  Listen to us here: http://thegoodlifegirls.libsyn.com/ https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/thegoodlifegirlss-podcast https://thegoodlifegirls.libsyn.com/spotify https://thegoodlifegirls.libsyn.com/deezer https://thegoodlifegirls.libsyn.com/radiopublic https://thegoodlifegirls.libsyn.com/radiodotcom

Many white people have reacted strongly to George Floyd’s killing in Minneapolis, but what does a meaningful reaction look like in this moment? How does white privilege transform into becoming better allies for people of color? Being an ally isn’t about retweeting a hashtag or posting on social media. It’s about doing the work to foster real change. Guests: Priska Neely is a reporter and producer at Reveal who recently published an essay called “Please stop ‘checking in on me to see if I’m OK.’” Sarah Bellamy is the artistic director at Penumbra Theatre Co. in St. Paul. She recently published an essay called “Performing Whiteness.” Debby Irving is a racial justice educator and author of "Waking Up White: And Finding Myself in the Story of Race." Use the audio player above to listen to the program. Subscribe to the MPR News with Angela Davis podcast on: Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify or RSS.

Correction: Sorry, I got two names wrongs; William Chapman II (Not Thomas Chapman II) & Micheal Lee Marshall (Not Michael Lee Taylor)Resources:https://ebwiki.org/https://blacklivesmatter.com/https://www.gofundme.com/f/georgefloyd75 Things White People Can Do for Racial JusticeWhat Do We Do With White Folks?White FragilityAmy Cooper, White Spaces and the Political Projection of WhitenessWhy White People Freak Out When They’re Called Out About RaceThe Sugarcoated Language of White Fragility My White Friend Asked Me to Explain White PrivilegeTeaching Your Child About Black History MonthWho Gets to Be Afraid in AmericaA Timeline of Events That Led to the 2020 ‘Fed Up’-rising“We are not okay. And you shouldn’t be either.”Op-Ed: Kareem Abdul Jabbar: Don’t understand the protests? What you’re seeing is people pushed to the edgeHow to Make this Moment the Turning Point for Real Change Reckoning with white supremacy: Five fundamentals for white folksWhite People: This Is How To Check Your Privilege When Asking People Of Color For Their LaborHow To Be An Ally If You Are a Person With PrivilegeWhite Anti-Racism: Living The LegacyBooksHow to Be an Antiracist by Ibram X. KendiWhy I’m No Longer Talking to White People About Race by Renni Eddo-LodgeThe World That Made New Orleans by Ned SubletteBlack Feminist Thought by Patricia Hill CollinsI Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya AngelouMe and White Supremacy by Layla F. SaadSo You Want to Talk About Race by Ijeoma OluoThe Bluest Eye by Toni MorrisonThis Bridge Called My Back: Writings by Radical Women of Color by Roasrio MoralesWomen, Race, and Class by Angela DavisWaking Up White, and Finding Myself in the Story of Race by Debby Irving

Black Lives Matter. Every damn day. Donate Here: NAACP: https://www.naacp.org/campaigns/we-are-done-dying/ Color of Change: https://colorofchange.org/ ArchCity Defenders: https://www.archcitydefenders.org/ KC Community Bail Fund: https://www.kccommunitybailfund.com/ Education: https://8cantwait.org/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/say-their-names-people-injured-killed-police-officer-involved-incidents/ https://blacklivesmatter.com/ Waking Up White by Debby Irving: https://debbyirving.com/the-book/ Eloquent Rage by Brittney Cooper: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250112576 Influencers/Podcast: Under the Arch Podcast: https://www.archcitydefenders.org/under-the-arch-podcast-episode-1/ Black in the Garden Podcast: https://toppodcast.com/podcast_feeds/black-in-the-garden/ Plant Kween: https://www.instagram.com/plantkween/ Check Your Privilege: https://www.instagram.com/ckyourprivilege/ Aycee Brown: https://www.instagram.com/ayceebrown/ --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/loudmouthpod/support

Debby Irving, author of “Waking Up White,” on what whites need to know about racial equality. Ashley Harrington, Center for Responsible Lending on minority-owned businesses. Gillian Sandstrom, Univ of Essex, on missing strangers. Stacy Wolf of Princeton Univ on “Beyond Broadway: The Pleasure and Promise of Musical Theatre Across America.” Kristen Wenz, global expert on human rights and development, on birth certificates.

“For me, I believe that Black lives matter. That’s what I said. Anyone with a functioning brain understands that all lives matter. Anybody. But right now there is a portion of our community that is frustrated, and they are suffering, and they are hurting. So, as an empathetic Christian I’m gonna go and say I agree with the statement Black lives do matter. But I was glad some people disagreed with me, because I kept saying, do Black lives matter yes or no? yes but…I’m like there is no but. We disagree. Those are the same type of people that would have interrupted Jesus in the Sermon on the Mount. Jesus would have been like, blessed are the poor…no Jesus blessed are all people. Since when does highlighting one issue disparage another? Are we not secure enough to be able to sit here and go issue by issue and talk about one without disparaging another? Of course all lives matter, but it’s okay to say Black lives matter. What’s wrong with you? This is not rocket science. All lives matter. No kidding. That’s why Black lives matter, because until all lives matter equally, we need to focus on this.” -Carl Lentz, 2016   This is the most important episode I will ever release. I hope you approach it with an open heart.   Just recently: George Floyd was murdered by a police officer while three other police officers stood by and did nothing. Breonna Taylor was in her home in the middle of the night when police broke in, unannounced, and shot her to death. Ahmaud Arbery was out for a run when two men chased him and shot him to death. Christian Cooper was bird watching in Central Park when a woman threatened to call the police and say that an African American man was threatening her life. He was not.   It doesn’t stop there. The following Black men and women have been murdered by police: Philando Castile Atatiana Jefferson Eric Reason Natasha McKenna Botham Jean Walter Scott Bettie Jones Tamir Rice Michael Brown Dominique Clayton Eric Garner Trayvon Martin  Tanisha Anderson Sandra Bland Freddie Gray   THESE ARE JUST THE NAMES WE KNOW. Do you know how hard it is to find a full list of Black people who have been murdered at the hands of police brutality?    Here’s a brief history of the Black lives lost in our country over the past few years along with the #Blacklivesmatter gaining momentum:   ·      2013: #Blacklivesmatter first appears on twitter ·      7/17/14: Eric Garner dies in NY after being arrested ·      8/9/14: Michael Brown is killed during an encounter with police officer in Ferguson, MO. ·      11/22/14: Tamir Rice is killed by police in Cleveland while playing with a toy gun ·      11/24/14: Announcement that there will be no indictment in Michael Brown case ·      4/19/15: Freddie Gray dies in Baltimore while in police custody ·      6/17/15: Charleston church shooting kills 9 people ·      7/13/15: Sandra Bland is found hung in Texas jail cell   STATS ·      99% of killings by police from 2013-2019 have not resulted in officers being charged with crime. ·      Unarmed Black people were killed by police at 5x the rate of unarmed white people in 2015. ·      Police killed at least 104 unarmed Black people in 2015— nearly 2x a week. ·      1 in 3 young Black men will be incarcerated in their life (compared to 1 in 17 white men). ·      13TH DOC: “The film’s premise is that while the 13th Amendment to the Constitution eliminated slavery and involuntary servitude, it in effect had an unintentional loophole that asserted “except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted.”” ·      Black people make up 6.5% of the American population but make up 40.2% of the prison population. ·      Our prison population went from less than 200k in 1970 to 2.3m today. This is what we refer to when we talk about mass incarceration.   THERE ARE PROVEN STRATEGIES that significantly reduce police killings, but very few Police Departments have adopted them. These are: Requirements that officers use all means other than shooting (decreases death by 25%) Requires all use of force be reported (decreases death by 25%) Bans chokeholds + strangleholds (decreases death by 22%) Has use of force continuum (decreases death by 19%) Requires de-escalation (decreases death by 15%) Duty to intervene if another officer uses excessive force (decreases death by 9%) Restricts shooting at moving vehicles (decreases death by 8%) Requires warning before shooting (decreases death by 5%) *You can call your local representatives and demand these 8 things be instituted with your local law enforcement. Want to learn more? Click here: https://8cantwait.org   WHY DO BLACK LIVES MATTER? My Personal Reckoning: 2016 ·      I didn’t realize my own white privilege for a long time. I felt better than the other white people when it came to bias and racism because I grew up in a broken home filled with drugs, addiction, affairs, and even lived in a town where I was a minority. The reality is I have loved Black culture for most of my life, but I have done very little to be an advocate for justice for my Black brothers and sisters. I’m so sorry for this. ·      I received a DM from a Black woman who encouraged me to diversify who I was interviewing on The Refined Woman. Almost all of my collaborations and interviews for the first few years of The Refined Woman were with white women. I was a white girl blogger. ·      In 2016 I also wrote an All Lives Matter blog post that fortunately never went live. I didn’t understand what it meant that Black Lives Matter. As a Christian I assumed didn’t all lives matter? Thank God I have a team, and thank God I didn’t go live with that painful article. I was very, very wrong.    Black Lives Matter, and here’s why:   Jesus was a 1st Century Palestinian Jewish man. He had brown skin and was hated by the religious, and beaten and killed by law enforcement. If he was alive today in America, he’d be a minority immigrant who probably wouldn’t step foot inside white evangelical churches except to flip over tables. The Western Evangelical Church in America has become a religion for rich, advantaged, and privileged white people—which is the exact opposite of the roots of Christianity and the life of Jesus. Jesus hung out with the oppressed people of society, those ostracized, those who didn’t feel safe in the church—those who were judged and cast off. He fought for justice, restored dignity and humanity from the woman at the well, woman caught in adultery, to touching people with contagious diseases and engaging with people outside of the Jewish law which would have made him unclean in Jewish circles. But he didn’t care, because He was on a mission to do God’s work.   Friend, if you are a follower of Jesus and do not have a heart for justice, racial reconciliation and to see the systemic walls, pillars, and foundations of racism in our country to be dismantled, you are out of alignment with the heart of God.   Who does Jesus care about?   -       Prodigal Son returns: the jealous brother instead of the father rejoicing over the return + safety of his son. But don’t I matter—OF COURSE YOU MATTER, BUT YOUR BROTHER WAS LOST + NOW IS FOUND.    -       Luke 15: Jesus leaves the 99 to go after the one sheep. He cares about the individual.   It’s time to get back in touch with the heart of Jesus. Do all lives matter? YES. But until Black lives matter—we better go after that. Jesus went after the one.   What can you do?    #1: Acknowledge If we don’t heal our past, it will follow us. And ours is HAUNTING US. -Kat Harris   1.     Until we acknowledge the experience of what it means to be a Black person in America there is no chance at healing. 2.     When someone dies, you show up. 3.     “I don’t know the full story.” You don’t have to. 4.     “People are just reposting for attention…not for the right reasons.” You don’t know their hearts. And so what? Does that mean you get to stay silent? 5.     Here’s what’s true: in 1619 was when the first wave of Black people were kidnapped from Africa to become slaves in Jamestown. July 4th isn’t a celebration of independence for Black people. They weren’t free when those freedom bells rang. America was built on the backs of terrorism and genocide and slavery of Black people, people of color and indigenous people. 6.     If we don’t heal our past, it will follow us. And ours is HAUNTING US. 7.     We have to look back before we can move forward. 8.     One of the first things we can do is acknowledge our white privilege. What is white privilege and how do you know if you have it? Go through these statements.   #2: Get Curious I STARTED NOTICING + GETTING CURIOUS: ·      Why did I have so few Black friends? ·      Why were there some Black people and people of color at my church but none on staff or leadership or in the decision-making rooms? ·      I changed churches because I wanted to be a part of a community with women in leadership, then I noticed almost every week at church I could count on one hand the number of Black people at my church…why? ·      Why were influential Black Christian people like Lecrae + Andre Henry leaving the church? ·      How come at my favorite salad place every single person in line buying was white and all the people working in the buffet are Black? ·      How come the expensive gym I had a membership to had mostly white members, and yet almost every single one of the people working there from front desk to maintenance are Black? ·      This started making me very uncomfortable. I didn’t know what to do—so I’d talk with my friends about it…but really I didn’t do much about it. I deeply regret this. #3: PRAY + REPENT: ·      When have you been complicit, silent, and chosen ignorance out of comfort and convenience? Write it down, say it out loud, pray, and repent. ·      Psalm 13 is great to walk through lament. ·      Psalm 51 is great to walk through repentance. #4: ACTIVATE: ·      Sign petitions for racial justice. change.org is a great start for this! ·      Talk with friends and family. ·      When you see racism, call it out. ·      Post on your platforms. ·      Call your local representatives and demand justice. ·      Support Black-owned businesses. ·      Donate to Historically Black Colleges and Universities. ·      Go to https://www.grassrootslaw.org to find out how you can support policing and justice in America. ·      Read this: 75 Things White People Can Do for Racial Justice by Corinne Shutack    #5: ORGANIZATIONS TO SUPPORT: ·      Equal Justice Initiative (Bryan Stevenson) ·      Be the Bridge (Latasha Morrison) and her wonderful resource page, “Where Do I Start?” ·      WhereChangeStarted.com has a great anti-racism starter kit ·      The Innocence Project ·      To help pay bail for protestors in NYC, money can be Venmo’ed to @bailoutnycmay.  ·      City-specific bailouts. ·      ACLU ·      NAACP ·      UNCF   #6: READ: “Stop asking us to give you books. Stop asking us to do research. Listen y’all were able to do mathematic equations through some Black women and then your own stuff and to be able to go to the moon, and put a flag in it and dance around and do the west coast strut. How in the world can you go from the earth to the moon and you can’t do research on the racial history that we need to fight in this country. I don’t want to be traumatized by teaching you history. I want you to grow up in your spiritual maturity, and grow up in your faith, and go on the sanctifying journey of overriding the patriotic way that we’ve learned history in America.” - Pastor Eric Mason   1.     White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo 2.     So You Want to Take About Race by Ijeoma Oluo 3.     The Person You Mean to Be by Dolly Chugh 4.     We Were Eight Years in Power by Ta-Nehisi Coates 5.     How to Be an Antiracist by Ibram X. Kendi 6.     I’m Still Here: Black Dignity in a World Made for Whiteness by Austin Channing Brown 7.     Between the World and Me by Ta-Nehisi Coates 8.     Woke Church by Eric Mason 9.     The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness by Michelle Alexander 10.  Jesus and the Disinherited by Howard Thurman 11.  Great Speeches by Frederick Douglass 12.  Waking up White and Finding Myself in the Story of Race by Debby Irving 13.  Ghetto by Mitchell Duneier 14.  More than Just Race: Being Black and Poor in the Inner City by William Julius Wilson 15.  Stamped from the Beginning: The Definitive History of Racist Ideas in America by Ibram X. Kendi 16.  A Testament of Hope by Martin Luther King Jr. 17.  Prejudice and Racism by James M. Jones 18.  Blindspot: Hidden Biases of Good People by Mahzarin R. Banaji 19.  Tears We Cannot Stop: A Sermon to White America by Dr. Michael Eric Dyson 20.  I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou 21.  All About Love by Bell Hooks 22.  Well-Read Black Girl by Glory Edim 23.  Go Tell it on the Mountain by James Baldwin 24.  Heavy: An American Memoir by Kiese Laymon 25.  There Will Be No Miracles Here by Casey Gerald 26.  Paradise by Toni Morrison 27.  Healing Racial Trauma by Sheila Wise Rowe 28.  Their Eyes Were Watching God by Zora Neale Hurston 29.  The Lies that Bind: Rethinking Identity by Kwame Anthony Appiah 30.  The Very Good Gospel by Lisa Sharon Harper 31.  The Prophetic Imagination by Walter Brueggemann 32.  Prophetic Lament: A Call for Justice in Troubled Times by Dr. Soong-Chan Rah 33.  Divided by Faith: Evangelical Religion and the Problem of Race in America by Michael O. Emerson and Christian Smith 34.  Just Mercy by Bryan Stevenson 35.  The Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America by Richard Rothstein 36.  Human(Kind) by Ashlee Eiland 37.  A Day Late and a Dollar Short by Terry McMillan 38.  Kindred by Octavia E. Butler 39.  Beloved by Toni Morrison 40.  White Teeth by Zadie Smith 41.  Discerning the Voice of God by Priscilla Shirer 42.  Detours: The Unpredictable Path to Your Destiny by Tony Evans 43.  Unashamed by Lecrae 44.  Believe Bigger by Marshawn Evans Daniels   ARTICLE + WEBSITES 1.     Code Switch: Race in Your Face 2.     White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh 3.     NYTimes An Antiracist Reading List compiled by Ibram X. Kendi 4.     Goodgooodgood.co Anti-racism resources compiled by Sarah Sophie Flicker and Alyssa Klein 5.     Buzzfeed’s An Essential Reading Guide for Fighting Racism by Arianna Rebolini 6.     1619 Project (NY Times) – an article series on the history and legacy of slavery in America (also a podcast below). There is a book project in the works to expand on what they’ve started. 7.     The America We Need (NY Times) – a NYT Opinion series that touches on justice in the midst of the pandemic. 8.     “Walking While Black” by Garnette Cadogan   WATCH: 1.     Pastor Eric Mason: Don’t Lose Heart: Why It’s Worth It to Fight for Racial Harmony Even When We Don’t See Progress 2.     Pastor Carl Lentz: I said, “Black Lives Matter” 3.     Dr. Robin DiAngelo’s talk on White Fragility at the University of Washington 4.     How to Deconstruct Racism One Headline at a Time, TEDtalk, Baratunde Thurston  5.     How Racism Makes Us Sick, TEDtalk, David R. Williams  6.     Racial Reconciliation, Latasha Morrison’s sermon, National Community Church  7.     The Privilege Walk   8.     Jon Tyson and David Bailey, class, race, reconciliation, and the Kingdom of God   9.     Becoming Brave: Reconciliation Rooted in Prayer – “why do we need the church?” by Rev. Dr. Brenda Salter McNeil     Movies to watch on Netflix: 1.     13th 2.     American Son 3.     Dear White People 4.     See You Yesterday 5.     When They See Us   Movies to watch on Hulu: 1.     If Beale Street Could Talk 2.     The Hate U Give   Movies to rent: 1.     Black Power Mixtape: 1967-1975 2.     Clemency 3.     Fruitvale Station 4.     I am Not Your Negro 5.     Just Mercy 6.     Selma 7.     The Black Panthers: Vanguard of the Revolution 8.     BlacKkKlansman 9.     Burden 10.  The Color of Fear   Listen to these podcasts: 1.     NPR’s Code Switch 2.     Season 2 of In the Dark 3.     Hope & Hard Pills with Andre Henry 4.     Her with Amena Brown 5.     Truth’s Table Podcast 6.     Fights and Feelings with Joseph Solomon 7.     Anti-Racism with Andre Henry on The Liturgists 8.     Pod Save the People 9.     1619 Project Podcast 10.  Scene on Radio’s “Seeing White” 11.  Why Tho   The Refined Collective episodes on race: 1.     Anxiety, Race, and Healing Community with Nikia Phoenix 2.     I’m Still Here: Black Dignity in a World Made for Whiteness with Austin Channing Brown 3.     Why Being a ‘Good Person’ Prevents You From Being Better with Jeana Marinelli   People to follow: 1.     @austinchanning 2.     @theconsciouskid 3.     @blackcoffeewithwhitefriends 4.     @theandrehenry 5.     @colorofchange 6.     @rachel.cargle 7.     @ibramxk 8.     @mspackyetti 9.     @blklivesmatter 10.  @osopepatrisse 11.  @reformlajails 12.  @akilahh 13.  @showingupforracialjustice 14.  @tyalexander 15.  @tiffanybluhm 16.  @natashaannmiller 17.  @thefaithfeast 18.  @louisa.wells 19.  @abigaileernisse 20.  @jessicamalatyrivera 21.  @thegreatunlearn 22.  @laylafsaad 23.  @luvvie 24.  @pastorgabbycwilkes 25.  @elevateny 26.  @pastoremase 27.  @lecrae 28.  @whatisjoedoing 29.  @sarahjakesroberts 30.  @bishopjakes 31.  @devonfranklin 32.  @iammiketodd 33.  @amenabee 34.  @shaunking   You don’t have to read all 44 books in one day. You don’t have to start a non-profit. BUT YOU DO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. I have not read every single one of these resources, but am making my way through them one by one. I am with you on the journey.   What are you committed to? How are you going to ensure that you are no longer silent? It’s time for white people to do something.   We are co-creators with God; it’s time to get to work.

We start our Weekend Grab Bag with some follow-ups on stories throughout the week, including an update to our disinformation episode. Lucas points to two stories related to his Oh This Small World mini-episode addressed to his fellow white people: a disturbing piece from the New York Times about armed "protesters" in Texas, and an article on the cancellation of the legislative session in Michigan. For listeners - especially white listeners - interested in further exploring how whiteness and white supremacy influence every aspect of American life, Lucas recommends Debby Irving's memoir "Waking Up White."Next, Antoinette does a deep-dive into all things Animal Crossing, using a recent Atlantic piece as a jumping-off point to investigate what the game - and its popularity - says about where we are as a country.Speaking of where we are as a country, we next dive into the numbers this week, and they're harrowing. A good resource for keeping track of what's happening with COVID-19 across America: the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center. Here in Texas, meanwhile, this week saw the highest single-day hike in coronavirus deaths, two weeks after Gov. Abbott's announced partial "reopen." The economic news is no better, including record unemployment and a volatile week on the stock market. We talk about what it all means, and where we go from here.Finally, it's Friday, which means Antoinette and Lucas give their recs for what to watch, listen to, or read this weekend to stay grounded.Antoinette sticks with the Animal Crossing theme, recommending the game or the Pocket Camp version for iPad and iPhone. She also recs some Spotify playlists: lofi hip hop and Throwback Jams. Meanwhile, Lucas, in a rare break from Antoinette, suggests tuning into Netflix's Love is Blind if you haven't already (though he has recommendations within that recommendation). Let us know what you're listening to/watching/reading. We're on IG and Twitter @OhThisWorldPod or email us at ohthisworldpod@gmail.com. Stay safe and healthy this weekend and we'll see you next week!This episode was recorded on Friday, May 15, 2020.

Sources:https://beingblackatschool.orgKelly Wickham Hurst: Founder, Executive DirectorKelly is also the creator/writer of an excellent blog/website: http://www.kellywickham.com/mochamommaAdditional reading recommendations:Anti-Bias Education for Young Children and Ourselves by Louise Derman-Sparks and Julie Olsen EdwardsWhat If All the Kids Are White?: Anti-Bias Multicultural Education with Young Children and Families (Early Childhood Education Series) by Louise Derman-Sparks , Patricia G. Ramsey, et al.Waking Up White: and Finding Myself in the Story of Race by Debby Irving

All proceeds from tonight will go to the following Black non-men: https://www.patreon.com/BGIM https://www.paypal.me/KimberleeWilliams261 Https://www.gofundme.com/f/nia-wilsons-support-team bit.ly/thefullset Karen Fleshman Esq. she/hers is an activist, attorney, single soccer mom, and founder of Racy Conversations, with a mission to inspire the antiracist generation. She is the author of "White Women, We Need to Talk: Doing Our Part to End Racism" to be published by Sounds True in 2021. Debby Irving brings to racial justice the perspective of working as a community organizer and educator for 25 years without understanding racism as a systemic issue or her own whiteness as an obstacle to grappling with it. As general manager of Boston's Dance Umbrella and First Night, and later as a classroom teacher in Cambridge, Massachusetts, she struggled to make sense of tensions she could feel but not explain in racially mixed settings. In 2009, a graduate school course, Racial and Cultural Identities, gave her the answers she'd been looking for and launched her on a journey of discovery. Debby now devotes herself to working with white people exploring the impact white skin can have on perception, problem-solving, and engaging in racial justice work. A graduate of the Winsor School in Boston, she holds a BA from Kenyon College and an MBA from Simmons College. Her book, Waking Up White, tells the story of how she went from well-meaning to well-doing and how she unpacked her own long-held beliefs about color blindness, being a good person, and wanting to help people of color. She reveals how each of these well-intentioned mindsets actually perpetuated her ill-conceived ideas about race. Originally recorded April 28 2020 ----- DiDi Delgado is creating change (unapologetically). http://linktr.ee/thedididelgado https://thedididelgado.com/ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/the-full-set-podcast/support

Within colonized spaces, members of a community are generally taught to expect punishment if they don’t comply with society’s demands. As people striving for antiracist policies and actions, this tool simply does not suffice. It also doesn’t work. We know from decades of research that punishment is one of the least effective terms for improving behavior in the long term. So what else do we have? (The resource I mentioned in the episode is called Exploring Cultural Values and Habits by Debby Irving, whose work can be found at DebbyIrving.com.)

Debby Irving brings to racial justice the perspective of working as a community organizer and classroom teacher for 25 years without understanding racism as a systemic issue or her own whiteness as an obstacle to grappling with it. As general manager of Boston’s Dance Umbrella and First Night, and later as a classroom teacher in Cambridge, Massachusetts, she struggled to make sense of tensions she could feel but not explain in racially mixed settings. In 2009, a graduate school course, Racial and Cultural Identities, gave her the answers she’d been looking for and launched her on a journey of discovery. Debby now devotes herself to working with white people exploring the impact white skin can have on perception, problem-solving, and engaging in racial justice work. A graduate of the Winsor School in Boston, she holds a BA from Kenyon College and an MBA from Simmons College. Her first book, Waking Up White, tells the story of how she went from well-meaning to well-doing.

Today, we are celebrating our return from spending time with our children for the summer and so much has happened since we were last with you in real-time! So, in this show, we are going to recap some of our topics from our previous episodes, and also catch you up on our summers! We’re also going to be sharing some of the exciting things we have in store for you this fall. So, sit back, relax and join us for this conversation so we can catch up!   Show Highlights: There are vast discrepancies in state education standards for teaching about slavery. We discussed this in episode 18 as it relates to who controls history. Our societal structures have been impacted by slavery, whether schools want to teach about it or not. Texas now teaches more than 5 million students that the Civil War wasn’t just about slavery, but rather it was more about economics and sectionalism. It doesn’t make sense that social studies is required for all students, but it doesn’t have the same national standards for what is taught as math and science do. Kids in the US learn about slavery differently depending on where they grow up. Most schools begin talking about African Americans in US history at the point that they are already slaves. When you begin at the point that someone is already dehumanized, you really never see them through a different lens. In order to see them as human beings, you have to start the journey before they were dehumanized. As a country, we still struggle with issues such as kneeling athletes, criminal justice reform, birthright citizenship, and Confederate statutes because we haven’t been taught the context of how those things tie directly into slavery.  Plantation tours have taken on the task of educating the public about slavery, but the public is pushing back and saying they don’t want to have to see the impact of slavery included in the plantation tours.  We don’t need to take slavery personally and get offended that it is an ugly part of our history. There are some books that you can use to help teach your children about equality. We’ve linked to the ones we recommend below. In Ep 11 and 12, we shared the real history of the KKK. Those shows are definitely worth listening to if you haven’t had a chance to catch those yet. It took Paypal six days to suspend an account raising money for a branch of the KKK. Even after it was flagged by an anti-bigotry campaigner, it still took almost a week for Paypal to take action. Your right to freedom of speech as laid out in the US Constitution ends when it infringes on others. Private companies, like Facebook, Paypal, Instagram, etc. have terms and conditions for the use of their platforms, but they can’t always catch everything that’s inappropriate. Remember the discussion we had about Stapleton, CO wanting change their name because even though Stapleton was a former Mayor of the town, he was also a KKK member, and used that fact to help him get elected. The town voted overwhelmingly (65% to 35%) NOT to change the name. Our first listener suggested guest, Caster Semenya, has lost her appeal to participate in her sport without taking drugs to alter her body’s natural hormonal state. You can learn more about her story by listening to episode 22. We had an episode about the citizenship question possibly being added to the census, and while that did not happen, we now have the Trump administration making it more difficult to obtain birthright citizenship. It’s been estimated that the changes to the birthright citizenship rule would affect only about 100 people annually, but for such a small impact why go down this slippery slope? We talked about the separation of migrant children at the border, and while that issue hasn’t completely resolved, the administration is now ending protection for migrant children getting lifesaving medical treatment in the US. It’s hard to understand how we can send sick children back to their home country and deny them medical treatment, knowing that decision will be a death sentence for them. It’s really heartbreaking. Find out our individual lessons learned and takeaways from spending this summer with our children. This includes the impact of visiting Hiroshima and the kid’s reaction to it and how taking kids to countries where they didn’t speak the language impacted them. This Fall, we have so many exciting plans for the show! You’ll have to listen to get a sneak peek! Resources: Sarah’s Key by Tatiana Rosnay Mind Hunter, Season Two on Netflix Girl, Stop Apologizing by Rachel Hollis Three Women by Lisa Taddeo The Immortalists by Chloe Benjamin Waking Up White by Debby Irving                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Previous Episodes Mentioned:   Episode 11 Episode 12 Episode 15 Episode 18 Episode 22

Waking Up White is the book Debby Irving wishes someone had handed her decades ago. By sharing her sometimes cringe-worthy struggle to understand racism and racial tensions, she offers a fresh perspective on bias, stereotypes, manners, and tolerance. As she unpacks her own long-held beliefs about colorblindness, being a good person, and wanting to help people of color, she reveals how each of these well-intentioned mindsets actually perpetuated her ill-conceived ideas about race. She also explains why and how she’s changed the way she talks about racism, works in racially mixed groups, and understands the racial justice movement as a whole.

Debby Irving is a racial justice educator, author, and public speaker. A community organizer and classroom teacher for 25 years, Debby Irving grappled with racial injustice without understanding racism as a systemic issue or her own whiteness as an obstacle to it. As general manager of Boston’s Dance Umbrella and First Night, and later as […] The post Waking Up White: An Interview & Conversation with Author Debby Irving appeared first on Restorative Justice On The Rise.

This week's episode shines the spotlight on the representation of women on our big screens, little screens, conference daises, and bookshelves. It's worth taking some time to consider the messages we receive from all forms of entertainment and education and whether we are getting a balanced view of the world. If you come to the realization that your bookshelf needs more female authors on it, never fear, we have a list of some favorite female authors and books. Check them out! Tweet your favorites to @UnravelingPink and we'll add them to the list.
 Resources in this episode:
 Molly Flatt, The Guardian, "Is The Future Female? Fixing Sci-Fi's Women Problem." Check out: Molly Flatt's "A Darker Wave," Kassandra Khaw’s "There are Wolves in These Woods," Madeline Ashby’s "The Cure For Jetlag," Liz Williams’ "In the God Fields." 
Jodi Picoult, "Small Great Things"
 Debby Irving, "Waking Up White" 
Karen Catlin, "Present! A Techie's Guide to Public Speaking"
 Ed Yong, 4/19/2018, "When Will the Gender Gap in Science Disappear?"
 Emma Pierson, 8/5/2014 "In Science, It Matters That Women Come Last" 
The Unraveling Pink's Brain Trust List of fav female authors and books:
 Arundhati Roy, "God of Small Things"
 Ntozage Shange, "for colored girls who have considered suicide/when the rainbow is enuf" 
Curtis Sittenfeld
 Doris Kearns Goodwin
 Loung Ung, "First They Killed My Father"
 Ayn Rand
 Kate Germano, "Fight Like A Girl"
 Julie Kratz, "ONE: How Male Allies Support Women for Gender Equality" 
Amy Waninger, "Network Beyond Bias: Making Diversity a Competitive Advantage for Your Career"
 Jennifer Brown, "Inclusion: Diversity, The New Workplace & the Will to Change"
 Iris Bohnet, "What Works: Gender Equality by Design"
 Another list of favorite female-authored business books
: Shona Brown and Kathleen M. Eisenhardt, "Competing on the Edge:  Strategy as Structured Chaos"
 Andrea Kates, "Find Your Next: Using the Business Genome Approach to Find your Company's Next Competitive Edge" 
Angeles Arrien, "The Four-Fold Way: Walking the Paths of Warrior, Teacher, Healer and Visionary"
 Rayona Sharpnack, "Trade Up: Five Steps for Redesigning Your Leadership and Your Life from the Inside Out"
 Gail Larsen, "Transformational Speaking: If You Want to Change the World, Tell a Better Story"

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Podcast Description Emily Kaminsky is a white-bread, mid-life, mid-career, cishet, married mom of three living in Massachusetts. She grew up in Maryland and spent time working in international development in the former Soviet Union and living in Vermont working in microenterprise finance. Now in Massachusetts, she works for a community development financial institution; there, she is a member of our racial equity working group and organize book groups on social justice topics that often focus on race. Outside of work, her passions range from environmental issues to human rights concerns.  Emily runs a local litter-busting chapter of Keep Massachusetts Beautiful, am the chair of the school PTO, participate in immigrant protection/rights organization actions with the Cosecha Movement, and support community-led permaculture and youth development efforts in Kenya. Currently, she is diving deep into herself, trying to discover where she fits in this world; part of that work includes discovering what it means to be white while working for social justice. Aligning her values with her actions as a privileged white person is near impossible. At every turn, she finds myself complicit in one injustice or another. She found my work and #causeascene recently as part of her journey.   Additional Resources Here are a few resources that she turned to on the subject of whiteness, privilege and history."Waking Up White" by Debby Irving (http://www.debbyirving.com/)"White Fragility" by Robin DiAngelo (https://robindiangelo.com/)"Invisible Backpack" by Peggy McIntosh (http://racialequitytools.org/resourcefiles/mcintosh.pdf)Community Change Inc. (http://www.communitychangeinc.org/)Race Forward (https://www.raceforward.org/)Zinn Education Project (https://www.howardzinn.org/related-projects/zinn-education-project/) and Zinn's "People's History of the United States""Seeing White" series by Scene on Radio (http://www.sceneonradio.org/seeing-white/)"Race the Power of Illusion" by PBS (http://www.pbs.org/race/000_About/002_04-about-02.htm)  Twitter Emily Kaminsky Become a #causeascene Podcast sponsor because disruption and innovation are products of individuals who take bold steps in order to shift the collective and challenge the status quo.Learn more >All music for the #causeascene podcast is composed and produced by Chaos, Chao Pack, and Listen on SoundCloud. Listen to more great #causeascene podcasts full podcast list >

Peacemakers Matthew 5:1-11 A sermon preached by Rev. Ben Roberts at Foundry United Methodist Church, Sunday, August 12, 2018   N-A-T-S, NATS, NATS, NATS, WOOOOOOO! A run is scored, the people sitting in (formerly Gwenda Martin’s Section) and around Larry Slagle's section extend their arms holding hat in hand, with the top of the hat pointed downward. They begin to chant; N-a-t-s, then what? NATS, NATS, NATS WOOOOO. What if someone new was near by? They have question; you explain it to them, this is what we do when a run is scored. For each run we do this. N-A-T-S, NATS, NATS, NATS, WOOOOOOO! A run is scored, someone else joins in, N-a-t-s, NATS, NATS, NATS,  AHUUUGA! What do you do? You would correct them, hard...it's not ahuuuuga! It's woo, pronounced WOOOOO. What are you doing get with the program? They inquire, what's the difference, it's still jubilation? No, it's woo. Maybe you are a tolerant person, you let it slide...the first two times, but tonight the Nats decide to score 25 for some reason not thinking about spacing the blessed runs out maybe, want to win some other games occasionally? Other games need runs Nats, all games matter!!!! You don't let ahugahhh slide, certainly not 24 of them. You call the usher. “This person is saying ahugaa not woo, they need to go. Get them out of here.” Usher totally gets it being there day in day out, they get rid of this person. Figure out the rules and participate or go. We teach (sometimes), we correct, this is how racismworks...I mean baseball, this is how baseball works. Slipped up there. But you get it, you understand how culture and cultural norms work. We teach we correct. We do it with gusto. We do it as duty. We do it as doing our jobs. We do it because we've been taught too, and whether we believe it or not, we find it important and normal to do so. This is how racism works, this is how racism works too. Rev. Dr. Shively Smith introduced for us a few weeks ago concept of “Sankofa.” She told us about the symbol, the Sankofa bird, with its feet planted forward and its head turned back. The word comes from the Akan people in Ghana. Sankofa is a Twi word meaning to go back and get it. One of the ideas around it being, the future can be planned by learning from the past. It’s important to go back and retrieve what’s at risk of being lost. A week before that Rev. Dr. Serene Jones told us of the power of faith communities to help their people be happier by sharing stories that also include hardship and difficulty. Those stories can make us more resilient. And so, this is what I have for you today. It’s just the sharing of story with the hopes it can help us live forward better together. Rev. Dr. Robert Brewer teacher, friend, and Th.D. in Homiletics, that is the craft of preaching advises this. “Don’t start a sermon with a question, because then the congregation will just be thinking about the question rather than what you’re saying. So, When did you first notice something was wrong with race or racism in the world?   Battlefields and historic sites were our playgrounds for good part of my childhood. From revolutionary war sites, to the many Civil War sites, and the battleship memorial in Wilmington, NC. These were the road trips we would take as a family and it was also our back yard. We would learn history through those places, we would learn the stories of the battels and the wars which occurred in those places. Cortney can tell you that I still enjoy going to those places when take trips. As a child, one of the best things about those places were the gift shops. What kid doesn’t love a gift shop. We would end up with little army men to play with when we got home. These toy soldiers were usually little blue men, and little gray men. The little blue men being the north and the little gray men being the south. We were young when we had these. Somewhere in the range of 4-8 years of age. I was not processing all that the blue and gray meant. History of the civil war and the history of the state of North Carolina, and the history of my family were very intertwined, not always processed, but intertwined. In addition to these battlefields we’d also visit cemeteries where relatives were buried like my grandfather, great grandparents and many cousins. They are all together in a little family plot near an old federal style house called Dalkeith where my family still gathers for Thanksgiving each year. The family bought the house in the late 1880’s, but it was built in 1825. We are confident there was enslaved African people present on that farm through 1865. We aren’t confident if the enslaved Africans were housed on the land or housed nearby with their labor being forced on multiple farms in the area. But that’s not really talked about at Thanksgiving. The family plot at the cemetery is at Bethlehem United Methodist Church in Arcola, NC. At the foot of my immigrant, WW 2 United States Navy Veteran, grandfather Brodie’s grave is a little emblem they give to retired Methodist Pastors, it’s a circuit rider. At the foot of a number of my older relative’s graves, are little metal crosses with letters C.S.V. on different points of the cross. C.S.V., Confederate States Veterans. I knew what the C.S.V letters stood for this even when I was little, but again the privilege of not having to process was very real. I do think I knew enough to know that that meant they were the little gray men, the toys we would play with. We’d go to museums like the North Carolina History where two small artifacts are kept. Both carved from beef bone, one is a bird clutching a snake, the other is a book surrounded by what resembles a horseshoe shape. They were carved by George W. Davis, a cousin, while he was a prisoner of war, a little gray man, held in a prison in Elmira, New York. We were in museums. In Lexington, Virginia, home of the Red Hen, is also home of the cemetery where my father’s parents are buried. And Just a stone’s throw from my WW 2 United States Army veteran Grandfather Roberts, is the grave and statue of General Stonewall Jackson, C.S.V. Lexington is also home to my father’s alma mater and the place where my grandfather taught, cytology and histology, Washington and Lee University. Home of Lee Chapel where Robert E. Lee is buried, and where Confederate Battle flags hung just beyond an opening at the front of the chapel space. These were our playgrounds and our toys. Me, my brothers, my parents and theirs. These where spaces we learned stories both from the family and from history. Some stories incomplete, few stories reflected upon in the moment. When did you first realize something was wrong? In 2nd grade, so when I was 8 years old. I recall specifically and vividly the moment I realized something was wrong. It’s stuck with me ever since. It is possible I’m not remembering this perfectly, but here it goes. We were sitting in the rear section of our classroom on the floor. That meant that whatever we were doing it didn’t involve desk work and there’s a good chance we were watching a movie as part of our discussion. Mrs. Adams was my teacher. Mrs. Adams was an African American woman and had responsibility for teaching young children multiple subject. I won’t be able to stress the significances of this enough, but having her as a teacher in the state of North Carolina is proving more and more invaluable. On to our subject, through whatever medium, we were learning about the civil war. I don’t remember the film and I don’t remember any other aspect of the discussion. However, enough was said to finally articulate that slavery, was one, a thing, and two was a central to the civil war. Thankfully, I had a teacher (or teachers) who could say plainly enough that slavery meant black people were owned as property. And this was largely (not exclusively) the case in the South (my playground) and with the people of the gray team as owners (my team), and fighting to preserve this right to own and force people into labor. Eight-year-old Ben’s head (and probably heart) nearly exploded at this point. All of what I knew about my family and the gray team was coming into focus in a new way. Deep processing and unpacking was not necessary at this point, but I knew enough thanks to good parenting that this slavery thing, this owning people thing, this working people against their will, this abusing people thing, this violence, this denigration of an entire group of people thing, this separating of families, mothers from children, husbands from wives, sisters from brothers, peoples from land thing; was not a good thing. No time, much less capacity, to think though because, my God! My friend Meghan is sitting right beside me. Holy crap! Our whole existence has a new meaning, and what on earth shall I say to my black friend Meghan who was, I’m sure, more disturbed by all this than I was. So, I did what any 8-year-old would do when confronted about a truth of history indicating a form of responsibility for a bad thing. I lied! I lied my tail-off! Bold face falsity as a means of self-preservation, friend console-ment, but mostly self-console-ment. An example of what I mean here: you say to a young child knowing the answer is yes, “Did you take the cookie when we told you not to?” What’s the answer? “No.” Same for pretty much every kid, and far too many adults. I turned to my friend Megan, I leaned over and I said, I remember this clear as day, “My family was on the blue team.” Such a little liar. If you’re finding yourself having sympathy for 8-year-old Ben, don’t. Eight is a pretty late age to be learning something is wrong with racism in America. Maybe it doesn’t seem old for a white kid, but black boys and girls at that age are learning, as a matter of life and death how to navigate what they already knew was a problem. This was it, this was the first time I think I realized something was wrong. I’m embarrassed it took so long. Even up to last week I was still trying to change it because it presents racism as binary (white and black) and related to  tangible institutions like slavery or segregation when we know it’s so much more than that. But it’s my story and it’s mine to grapple with. The tendency, however, to deny our story, to lie to ourselves or others about the conditions of the world and our culture is not mine alone. When did you realize something was wrong? Do you remember your story? Is there something that you need to go retrieve from it before it’s lost? Is there something in that can help us live forward better and be more resilient in difficult times? We read the same texts they are reading at the worship service on the Mall today. The focus for is on the Matthew 5 text, verse 9, “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God.” It’s either a hard or very appropriate day to think of peacemaking when there are planned gatherings celebrating and encouraging violence. Our key verse begs the question, “Really? With them?” I’d say, “yes” and “no.” With the people of all the various groups that gather today? “Yes.” With the ideas that white supremacist espouse? No, never. Resist always evil, injustice, and oppression in whatever forms they present themselves. What a lot of us need to do today is begin making peace with our stories. Make peace with their incompleteness and their privilege. Make peace with them so our reaction to them isn’t what 8-year-old Ben did, lie about it, be embarrassed by it, feel guilty about it, re-write the history of it. You can’t change it, but you can learn from it. Ignoring the fullness of our stories isn’t helpful and only prolongs our inaction on the ways racism persists in our collective daily story. I’ll give you another story Foundry Church. When this congregation began 1814 it was over 50% African enslaved and free. But we were segregated in our seating and leadership. By 1836 Asbury Chapel was formed and the black constituency of Foundry made their way to that space further entrenching the forced racial divide that for Foundry persisted roughly another 130 years. In 1965 Norman and Francis Prince joined Foundry as members becoming the first black members of the church since the early 1800’s. It would be another 30 years before we became a reconciling congregation, committing ourselves to welcoming all people. Then between 2000 and 2001 a group of Foundry members decided it was time to make peace with our own story. I’m deeply grateful they did too. A congregation wide study on racism and white privilege took place over the course of at least a year. Joint classes and discussions were held with both Asbury and Foundry members. Through that Foundry was able to put together a formal act of repentance for the sins of racism through the church. Asbury received that and there were marches back and forth between our two buildings; of course, there was food. But these were the steps taken to make peace with our own story and culpability. To learn more from them and examine the deeper roots of entrenched systemic racism. Since then we’ve been able to collaborate in ministry in our downtown area. And we’ll stand together today on the mall against all forms of hate. Those Foundry and Asbury groups took a risk. They risked admitting to not knowing everything. They risked publicly acknowledging ways we have collectively and individually participated in systems of racism. They risked having others’ opinions about them being lowered. They put in work to make peace with a story, so that we could live forward better. Our verse today, “peacemakers;” one French translation uses “répandent (autour d'eux la paix).” I like this one, “it’s to spread peace around them.” It makes peace something you possess and spread all around you. In English though, peacemakers ends up essentially meaning peace is created. A peacemaker’s work is to reconcile two or more adversarial parties. That’s more appropriate for us today. There’s work to be done; with our own stories, so that we can alter the trajectory of our current shared narrative. Every second Sunday, the racial justice ministry team gathers for discussion, field trips, lectures or some other activity. We do something every month. Take advantage of that, it can easily help reframe your story and what you’re seeing around. This fall we’ll be working through writings of Howard Thurman. I’ll recommend you get involved with that group. I’ll also recommend to you the book “Waking up White, and Finding my self in the Story of Race,” by Debby Irving.  It’s a good baseline consciousness raising narrative of the author’s own figuring out of how racism is operating in systems of our culture and how she was operating within and perpetuating them, as a nice person, as well. Today if you’re wanting to go to the rally, but don’t want to get “yelled at” or something like that know this; if they only time you choose to show up is when the white nationalist come to town or shortly after another unarmed black or brown person is killed, you’re probably going to hear some yelling. Show up any way. Don’t ask someone who has an embodied experience of racism to sanitize their emotion or feelings for your comfort. Just show up. Then show up the next day and every day in between. Go ahead and make peace with the fact that you are going to make mistakes on this journey. That you are not all knowing and that there are ways that even you, good as I know you are, still participate in racist systems. Don’t let some sense of guilt or shame hold you back from engage the work, that is one of the subtlest yet most effective ways evil works to perpetuate this whole mess. Risk your public reputation as good a good person who has it all figured out, so that you can engage in the real work of peacemaking, of reconciliation; the work God calls us to. Soon you’ll begin to realize that the real conversations don’t happen in 3-hour blocks at rallies. Soon you’ll realize that the real work of breaking down your own privilege happens as you draw closer to one another, not in groups of thousands, but in groups of 2 or 3 or 4. This is where the real work of peace happens. Maya Angelou says this, “if we face the past with courage we don't have to repeat it.” There is peace making work to do friends, let’s commit ourselves this day.    

Debby Irving is a racial justice educator, author, and public speaker.  A community organizer and classroom teacher for 25 years, Debby Irving grappled with racial injustice without understanding racism as a systemic issue or her own whiteness as an obstacle to it. As general manager of Boston’s Dance Umbrella and First Night, and later as an elementary school teacher in Cambridge, Massachusetts, she struggled to make sense of racial tensions she could feel but could not explain. In 2009, Debby took a graduate school course, Racial and Cultural Identities, which gave her the answers she’d been looking for and launched her on a journey of discovery. Now, speaking and leading workshops around the country, Debby devotes herself to exploring the impact white skin can have on perception, problem solving, and creating culturally inclusive communities. A graduate of the Winsor School in Boston, she holds a BA from Kenyon College and an MBA from Simmons College. Her first book, Waking Up White, tells the story of how she went from well-meaning to well-doing. https://www.themainemag.com/radio/radio-guests/debby-irving/

On this episode of Speak Out With Tim Wise, Tim speaks with antiracism educators and authors, Robin DiAngelo and Debby Irving. They’ll discuss the ways in which white obliviousness to the reality of racism, and "white fragility" as DiAngelo calls it—which causes such backlash when matters of race and privilege are raised—both complicate efforts to produce racial equity in American institutions. They’ll explore how white fragility manifests, why it’s so toxic for both people of color and (ironically) white folks, and how even “nice white people” can derail conversations and efforts aimed at rectifying racism unless the phenomenon is understood and confronted. They also discuss the inherent tensions they all feel as whites doing antiracism work, in which they confront and critique privilege, on the one hand, while most assuredly benefitting from it on the other. How should whites navigate that space? How can we do so in a more accountable way to people of color? And how have they come to see the proper role of whites in the movement for racial justice?

In this episode, we hear from Peggy McIntosh, author of, White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack, and also Debby Irving, author of Waking Up White. Both guests reflect on why they feel it is important to make whiteness visible.

In this episode, we hear from Peggy McIntosh, author of, White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack, and also Debby Irving, author of Waking Up White. Both guests reflect on why they feel it is important to make whiteness visible. 

Historical and media images and self-examination are used to discuss White Privilege and Institutional Racism. Ms. Irving is part of the White Privilege Conference occurring in Kansas City 27 – […] The post “I'm a Good Person! Isn't that Enough?” with Debby Irving appeared first on KKFI.

"Education is the most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world."-Nelson Mandela Join Amy from AmyLeo.com as she speaks with social change agent Debby Irving. Tune in for a truly transformative exploration based on some shocking historical facts (not opinions) regarding the topics of social justice and systemic inequality. In this episode, you will learn the real history behind the G.I. Bill, social security, redlining, affirmative action, mass incarceration, and more! How does this affect you? With more knowledge, you will be better equipped to make a real difference in our society, instead of innocently perpetuating the status quo. For instance, after listening to today's show, you will be better prepared to answer questions like "Why Should I Care?". Learn more at www.debbyiriving.com and don't forget to pick up Debby's book "Waking Up White" here: http://www.debbyirving.com/the-book/ --- Other resources mentioned: Books: The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander Just Mercy by Bryan Stevenson Songs available on iTunes, Spotify, etc. White Privilege by Macklemore Black and White Thinking by Amy Leo Other projects: One Solution, www.onesolutionglobal.org You Are Not So Smart, https://youarenotsosmart.com ( For Backfire Effect & Confirmation Bias Research)

10-16-16 - Debby Irving, racial justice educator, author, www.debbyirving.com by Warm1069

10-16-16 - Debby Irving, racial justice educator, author, www.debbyirving.com by Warm1069

Race is one of the most divisive issues in this country. And it’s the most hidden and least discussed … that is, among whites. Debby Irving is joining us to share her brave, unflinching journey from white oblivion to white awareness openly chronicled in her book, Waking Up White and Finding Myself in the Story of Race. It has just been released in audio format so you will want to check it out. This is not only a riveting tale of the building awareness that led to Debby’s personal wake up call; the book provides a fascinating look at racial denial and our society’s secret acceptance of white privilege. If you care about equality and social justice, you won’t want to miss this thought-provoking discussion. Ms. Irving’s book provides the mirror to open and honest reflection and it’s up to each of us to bring racial consciousness into our minds and our hearts.

Racial justice educator Debby Irving discusses the interpersonal dynamics of racism—especially in friendships, in “white spaces” like schools and offices, and even around the dinner table. Debby gives concrete suggestions on how to shift these dynamics in useful ways. The post Waking Up White (Part 2) with Debby Irving appeared first on Safe Space Radio.

Debby Irving is a racial justice educator and author of the book Waking Up White. She talks about the way her world was shaken when she began understanding the extent to which her whiteness has been crucial to her success in life. She also details the ways in which her new ability to engage in ...read more » The post Waking Up White (Part 1) with Debby Irving appeared first on Safe Space Radio.

Debby Irving is a white woman, raised in Winchester, Massachusetts during the socially turbulent 1960s and ‘70s. After a blissfully sheltered, upper-middle-class suburban childhood, she found myself simultaneously intrigued and horrified by the racial divide she observed in Boston. From 1984 to 2009 her work in urban neighborhoods and schools left her feeling helpless. Why did people live so differently along racial lines? Why were student outcomes so divergent? Why did she get so jumpy when talking to a person of color? Where did the fear of saying something stupid or offensive come from, and why couldn’t she make it go away? The more Debby tried to understand racial dynamics, the more confused she became. She knew there was an elephant in the room, she just didn’t know it was her! In her book, Waking Up White, the story of her two-steps-forward-one-step back journey away from racial ignorance. She continues to study racism and strategies for its undoing while working to educate other white people confused and frustrated by racism. She remembers these feelings all too well and is passionate about transforming anxiety and inaction into empowerment and action, be it for an individual or an organization. For more on Debby visit www.debbyirving.com

Race is one of the most divisive issues in this country. And it's the most hidden and least discussed … that is, among whites. Debby Irving is joining us to share her brave, unflinching journey from white oblivion to white awareness openly chronicled in her newly released book, Waking Up White and Finding Myself in the Story of Race. This is not only a riveting tale of the building awareness that led to Debby's personal wake up call; the book provides a fascinating look at racial denial and our society's secret acceptance of white privilege. If you care about equality and social justice, you won't want to miss this thought-provoking discussion. Ms. Irving's book provides the mirror to open and honest reflection and it's up to each of us to bring racial consciousness into our minds and our hearts.