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“A lot of times people think I'm turning up the younger generation but they really turning me up, giving me life all over again” ~ Zaytoven Super producer, Zaytoven and his first born son and artist ZAYSKII skip class with Lalaa Shepard of The Progress Report to speak about the gift and curse of being the child of a celebrity, how they learn from each other, their church backgrounds and sobriety influencing their music careers, clearing the OJ Da Juiceman “Wham Bam' song sample for the viral “WHIM WHAMIEE” song, thoughts on Gucci Mane's live orchestra event in ATL, album collaboration with Usher, losing rappers and peers such as Young Scooter and Trouble, and legacy! Website: https://linktr.ee/TheProgressReportMediaGroup Listen to us on the Revolt Podcast Network: https://tr.ee/GxMmkTcj7o Listen to us on Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-progress-report-podcast/id1494070183 Listen to us on Spotify Podcasts https://open.spotify.com/show/5sBgF6wWa7NmHraP2QuBEv?si=a0f5f19b8a494fb5 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zayskiift/ https://www.instagram.com/zaytovenbeatz/ https://www.instagram.com/lalaashep/ https://www.instagram.com/theprogressreport101/ https://www.instagram.com/tprmediagroup1/ Website: https://TPRMediaGroup.com
“F millions, let's get billions together…” ~ DaphoDILL to Zaytoven Hattiesburg, Mississippi artist DaphoDILL makes her return to Skipping Class with Lalaa Shepard of The Progress Report to speak about landing a distribution deal with Zaytoven, 2 albums, ‘My Suicide Letter' & ‘Anomalous', and getting out of the military after toxic experience. Website: https://linktr.ee/TheProgressReportMediaGroup Listen to us on the Revolt Podcast Network: https://tr.ee/GxMmkTcj7o Listen to us on Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-progress-report-podcast/id1494070183 Listen to us on Spotify Podcasts https://open.spotify.com/show/5sBgF6wWa7NmHraP2QuBEv?si=a0f5f19b8a494fb5 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/__daphodill__/ https://www.instagram.com/lalaashep/ https://www.instagram.com/theprogressreport101/ https://www.instagram.com/tprmediagroup1/ Website: https://TPRMediaGroup.com 0:00 DaphoDILL Skipping Class drop 0:14 introduction 0:39 changes since 2023 1:36 what does our keyword “progress” mean now? 2:25 landing distribution deal with Zaytoven 4:00 advice from Zaytoven 4:41 music grind in ATL 6:21 “I'm Rolling Jimmy” single inspired by toxic relationship 9:12 song continued 10:43 family pushing her to date men instead of women 11:24 differences dating men vs women 12:10 goal to marry a woman 12:54 2 albums ‘My Suicide Letter' & ‘Anomalous' 15:28 alcohol and drug addiction 17:59 support and backlash for speaking out against military experience 21:40 abuse towards homosexual people 22:30 getting back in military 23:12 why should people listen to DaphoDILL? #DaphoDILL #Zaytoven #TheProgressReport #SkippingClass #LalaaShepard #Military
On this episode of BSTV, Ya Boi Shad & G. Downs sat down with the legendary Gorilla Zoe. They began by discussing his origins, growing up in Griffin, Georgia, before moving to California and eventually settling in Atlanta. They then delved into his journey into hip-hop, revealing that he never aspired to be a rapper. However, fate intervened when he met Bloc Ent. Gorilla Zoe shared the story of writing the hit song “Hood Nigga,” which was initially intended for the group Boyz N Da Hood. Bloc Ent convinced him to record the track, which catapulted him to fame. Gorilla Zoe also spoke about joining Boyz N Da Hood after Jeezy's departure. His debut album exceeded expectations, propelling him to international stardom as a rap artist. He reminisced about collaborating with other hit artists like Young Joc, Lil Wayne on “Lost,” and Rick Ross on “You Know What It Is.” The conversation then turned to Gorilla Zoe's close relationship with legend Gucci Mane, and their early collaboration "Walk With A Waddle". He also addressed the question of Gucci Mane's bipolar disorder. Gorilla Zoe shared his experiences working with the legendary producer Zaytoven. He then discussed his departure from Bloc Ent and the enduring cordial relationship they maintain to this day. As the episode drew to a close, Gorilla Zoe reflected on his past bad purchases and shared his list of the greatest rappers from Atlanta and the most influential rappers in the city. https://www.youtube.com/c/BadSpeakersTV https://www.instagram.com/badspeakerspodcast https://www.tiktok.com/@badspeakerspodcast https://twitter.com/BadSpeakers https://www.facebook.com/badspeakerspodcast
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What you voted for, new ones worth playing again, brand new songs, and a flashback to 1994. Playlist: "Like Me" by indie tribe. "On Fire (ft. Zaytoven)" by 1K Phew "No L's (ft. Miles Minnick, Fatman Scoop)" by Bizzle "Remnant Forever (ft. Phillip Anthony & DJ Sean P)" by iNTELLECT "Olympian" by Propaganda "Let It Go (ft. Jered Sanders, Datin, Mickey Factz)" by Ayo Shamir "Wish I Could (ft. Mike Webber)" by Nathan Plumridge "Rise From Ashes" by Man Of War "Wonderous Deliverance (ft. Nfors)" by Vytal One "Psalm 88 (ft. Sondae)" by Jackie Hill Perry "Not Me (ft. Iron Will, Pythagoras the Praying Mantis & DJ Paine)" by Ryland Junior "Lose Your Kryptonite." by Tylerhateslife "Sooner Or Later (ft. Soup the Chemist, T-Bone)" by Freedom of Soul "Propain" by muzeOne "The Crucible" by P.I.D. "West Coast Shottas (ft. Myka 9, Caps the Elusive, Sojourn)" by NomiS "California Dreamin (ft. John Givez)" by 116 Vote on the playlist at www.definitionradio.com/show/922 Leave your requests/shout-outs on our socials www.facebook.com/DefinitionRadio www.instagram.com/DefinitionHH www.twitter.com/DefinitionHH www.krosswerdz.com
Future's first project with Zaytoven features the duo in their most luxurious zone.
Future and Zaytoven link back up for a sequel that stands out in its own way.
“The Progress Report was one of the first places that made me feel like somebody when I get interviewed, that made me feel like I was somebody back in the day” ~ Zaytoven The Progress Report media coorspondent Mik Fly caught up with the trap music legend himself #Zaytoven to get his thoughts on the current state of the music industry, upcoming business endeavors, and project announcements.
In this episode Durell is joined by hip hop artist and emcee Dee Wile. Dee and Durell discuss how they got connected and his early introduction to music . Dee and Durell talk about authenticity and what Dee likes to call reality rap. Durell and Dee both agree there's a space for authenticity even in the midst of the mainstream artists that's being promoted to the masses as the top successful artists. Dee Wile shares with Durell how appreciative he is to get the support of some of hip-hop's dopest lyrical Hip-Hop artists and producers like Currency, Zaytoven, and Too Short. Durell and Dee Wile share how Boosie Badazz really loves to show love and get behind independent artists. Durell shares about the importance of building a fanbase for indie artists enabling the 3 Pillars Of Fan Engagement and that's why he believes in eduction. The process of building directly with their audience and community while understanding why having a sales funnel is key to garnering the support needed to monetise. Dee Wile and Durell end the episode talking about the two types of creatives in the marketplace and why being talented versus trendy will naturally take longer. Dee talks about why artists lose the core true essence of hip hop because of social media and a quick money grab. For more info on Dee Wile please visit his social media profiles below: Facebook: Dee Wile Instagram: @DeeWileSativa TikTok: @DeeWileSativa Got What U Need NetworkInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/gwun.network/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GWUNNetwork Website: https://gwunnetwork.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeA-JJasR0-64nBb1efDJ1Q/featured
In this episode Durell is joined by hip hop artist and emcee Dee Wile. Dee and Durell discuss how they got connected and his early introduction to music . Dee and Durell talk about authenticity and what Dee likes to call reality rap. Durell and Dee both agree there's a space for authenticity even in the midst of the mainstream artists that's being promoted to the masses as the top successful artists. Dee Wile shares with Durell how appreciative he is to get the support of some of hip-hop's dopest lyrical Hip-Hop artists and producers like Currency, Zaytoven, and Too Short. Durell and Dee Wile share how Boosie Badazz really loves to show love and get behind independent artists. Durell shares about the importance of building a fanbase for indie artists enabling the 3 Pillars Of Fan Engagement and that's why he believes in eduction. The process of building directly with their audience and community while understanding why having a sales funnel is key to garnering the support needed to monetise. Dee Wile and Durell end the episode talking about the two types of creatives in the marketplace and why being talented versus trendy will naturally take longer. Dee talks about why artists lose the core true essence of hip hop because of social media and a quick money grab. For more info on Dee Wile please visit his social media profiles below: Facebook: Dee Wile Instagram: @DeeWileSativa TikTok: @DeeWileSativa Got What U Need NetworkInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/gwun.network/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GWUNNetwork Website: https://gwunnetwork.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeA-JJasR0-64nBb1efDJ1Q/featured
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In this Episode of The Black Theater I bring to you A group of Artist Hailing from the Panhandle,The Emerald Coast, Crestview City and Pensacola Florida Ctown & Nard2Hard. Ctown started his career at 19 and even at that time he was known as one of the hardest MCs. Nard2Hard who began as Killa B started his career at 14 his legend is known for killing beats. When the two created the New Skool Classmates, they became one of the most successful indie groups in northwest Florida area. Their style can be described as eastcoast dirtysouth. They built their buzz from years of consistant hard work. They have worked with almost every serious artist/musician in the local area and is still building that foundation. New Skool released their first Albun Titled"Class In SessionVol1" that caught local buzz. Fast forward years later and theyhave accumilated close to one million views collectively on YouTube with hits like "Cut Up" "Tell'em Boyz" "I Mean It" "Pain" and "Reggie" which went viral on YouTube. Their musical influences are commonly shared which include 2Pac, Jadakiss, NAS and NWA to name a few. New Skool Classmates have a healthy Portfolio working with Notable artis like Trouble, Lil Popa, Lil Boosie, Mike Jones, MP, PapaDuck, Lil Wyte, Zaytoven and more. Since then the Group has ammased a musical empire under their brand WAMM (We're A Motivational Movement. 2 recording studios Florida & Georgia Musical Marketing Agency, Video Production & Photography Company, Music Management And Finacial Department as well. IG - @ctown_86 @nard2hard Follow on all music media platforms and Google New School Classmates.
This episode we hang out with the legendary Multi Platinum/Grammy award winning producer #JAZZEPHA!! We talk Jazze producing the music soundtrack for the new upcoming #RickJames life story film!! We also talk what song caused his career to take off, how was it working with #Aaliyah, funny story about him Pimc C and a young lady lol! Also Jazze working on a new mix tape with #Zaytoven, any new artists that he would like to work with, doing a 50 beat deal with #Birdman, selling over 6 Million Records with #Ciara !! His dad teaching him the music game. Who are some of the producers that helped shape him, who's his healthy competition Random question, Jazze producing the LABORATORY's NEW INTRO SONG and more!!! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/laplac-brown/support
In San Francisco's Geneva Towers housing projects, Lil Bean's father, Bner, was a neighborhood factor who exposed him to Bay Area rappers like Mac Dre and Messy Marv. When Bean was 11, his father died and he became the man of the house. After turning down opportunities to play college basketball, he turned to rapping as a way to provide for his family. Since then, Bean has racked up millions of views and streams, toured the country with 24kGoldn, appeared on Empire's Fo15 album produced by Zaytoven, and started his own clothing line, Beno World. Lil Bean has already made history as one of the hottest up-and-coming rappers from SF. Lil Bean "Back To The Basics 2" album: https://music.empi.re/backbasics2 -- Sponsored by Stem Social https://stemsocial.io https://instagram.com/stem.social Also sponsored by Lost Soul Courier Collective - call or text (415) 275-1922 for free Narcan delivery in San Francisco https://lostsoulcouriercollective.org For more info contact @traceyh415 -- Hat & shirt by Rebel 8: https://rebel8.com Supported by Amoeba Music: 1855 Haight St, San Francisco Graffiti supplies from Dying Breed SF: https://www.dyingbreedsf.com -- For promo opportunities on the podcast, e-mail: historyofthebaypodcast@gmail.com -- Produced by DEO @deo415, videography by @mvp_kingced --- History of the Bay Spotify Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3ZUM4rCv6xfNbvB4r8TVWU?si=9218659b5f4b43aa Online Store: https://dregsone.myshopify.com Follow Dregs One: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1UNuCcJlRb8ImMc5haZHXF?si=poJT0BYUS-qCfpEzAX7mlA Instagram: https://instagram.com/dregs_one TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dregs_one Twitter: https://twitter.com/dregs_one Facebook: https://facebook.com/dregsone415 --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/historyofthebay/support
In this episode, DJ Focus and Dice Gamble welcome, Reach Records artist, 1K Phew to discuss his new project "Pray for Atlanta," his music career, and the influence of faith. He opens up about his relationship with producer Zaytoven, the challenges of the music industry, and the importance of authenticity. Phew also talks about the nuances of identifying as a gospel rapper and the message behind his track "Let Go, Let God." The episode also explores the church's reception to gospel rap, Kanye West's controversial social media presence and the broader impact of his music on the community. Focus and Dice have a real talk conversation on it means to go through the wildness and how to navigate it for personal growth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The Grammy winning producer Zaytoven (Gucci Mane, Usher, Migos, Drake, Young Dolph & much more.) discusses brand new collaboration with Gospel Rap Artist 1K Phew. #1 Apple Charts Christian Album "Pray 4 Atlanta. | Zaytoven's Top Collabs | Producing Usher's #1 song "Papers" "Versace" with Migos & Drake. "God is in full control". " I had to stop playing when I got shot at." (1k Phew)"I was lost then I woke up." (1K Phew) : God using Zaytoven (Producing for the biggest Trap Rappers) to put credibility and a groundbreaking sound into what is being created with 1K Phew & much more. Follow // Instagram | http://instagram.com/trendsettersense http://instagram.com/rhythmandstreetspodcastYoutube | http://youtube.com/trendsettersenseTik Tok | http://tiktok.com/trendsettersense100
Justin Kase, a trailblazing entertainment aficionado, emerged into the industry at just 16, rubbing shoulders with legends like Chucky Brown, Lenny Wilkens, Dikembe Mutombo, and Steve Smith as the Atlanta Hawks' ball boy. Mentored by luminaries Ryan Cameron & Greg Street, he found his calling, journeying from HOT 98.1FM in Greenville, South Carolina, where he dazzled as an on-air personality, production maestro, and promotions ace.Co-founding the acclaimed Zaytoven Radio with Humble Gee, Justin contributed to its Sirius radio triumph with beats known for shaping hits like "Usher - Papers," "Gucci Mane - So Icey," and "Gucci Mane feat Oj Da Juiceman - Make The Trap Say Ay." Venturing forth after two years, he remains connected to Zaytoven and Roland from Digital Dope Radio, sustaining his legacy.Transitioning from 16 dynamic years in radio, Justin pivoted to a thriving photography venture, gracing publications like the New York Times, People Magazine, and the New York Post. His lens has captured luminaries like Tray Chaney, Nappy Roots, NLE Choppa, LL Cool J, Tana, Georgia NAACP, and a host of others, establishing him as a luminary in the field.Navigating personal challenges, including marriage-induced stress and depression, Justin grappled with Adderall abuse, spiraling into a tumultuous phase with cocaine. Seeking redemption, he embarked on a transformative journey, voluntarily embracing rehab in September 2017. Emerging after 90 days with newfound clarity, a counselor's advice led him to photography, reigniting his passion and driving his sobriety.Four years on, Justin Kase stands as one of the preeminent celebrity photographers in the southern landscape, using his lens not only to capture moments but to illuminate his own triumphant tale of resilience and redemption. Find Justin KaseInstagramTikTokWebsiteAddicts with VoiceFind The Suffering PodcastThe Suffering Podcast InstagramKevin Donaldson InstagramMike Failace InstagramBuzzsproutApple PodcastSpotifyFacebookTikTokYouTubeThe Suffering Podcast FamilyDented Development ProjectToyota of HackensackBella Dama CigarsSupport the showThe Suffering Podcast Instagram Kevin Donaldson Instagram TikTok YouTube
We recently spoke to super producer Zaytoven about working with 1K Phew on the Pray for Atlanta project. We also dove into his thoughts on Christian rap and what he hopes to add to it. Of course, we had to touch on his signature 808 sound and advice for producers in the future. Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Rapzilla... Follow The Rapzilla Playlist: https://ffm.to/rzplay Follow Christian Rap Workout playlist: https://ffm.to/chhworkout Follow New Christian Rap Songs Daily playlist: https://ffm.to/chhdaily --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/rapzilla/support
Interview by Haze / mike_tall We recently sat down with Kansas artist Thug Lucciano for an exclusive “Off The Porch” interview! During our conversation he talked about misconceptions about Wichita, getting into the streets at a young age, jumping off the porch when he was 12, his father not being around so he turned to the streets, overcoming the streets, tells the story of what lead him going to prison, his sister & mother snitching on him, getting sentenced to 3 years, coming home on a positive tip, falling out with his family, turning his life around, shares advice for the youth, starting to rap while locked up, the music scene in Wichita, being the first rapper from Kansas to have a Gangsta Grill tape, getting love in other cities, working with Sauce Walka in 2017, their single “Whole Lotta”, collabing with Pleasure P on “Yo Body”, new single “Bet Nun” with Zaytoven, goals for 2023, fatherhood, meeting his father later in life, using music as therapy, and much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Interview by Haze / mike_tall We recently sat down with Fat Money for an exclusive “Off The Porch” interview! During our conversation he talked about coming from Harvey IL, the violence in Chicago, how his neighborhood has changed since he was younger, moving to Atlanta, stealing bikes when he was younger, jumping off the porch, going to jail a lot of times, turning his life around 4 years ago, his musical influences, meeting Bump J & recording their song “Yes Or No”, the song blowing up, explains why he change his name from Ty Money to Fat Money, reveals his creative process, T.I. flying him out to Atlanta, his friendship with Waka Flocka, working with Nick Cannon for the ‘Chiraq' movie, working with Kanye West on ‘Donda 2', recently working with Dr. Dre, working on a mega yacht, his close relationship with Pusha T, his new album ‘Money Got Wings' with Cardo, working not he album for over 3 years, explains the artwork, explains the vision for the 2 music videos he has released from the album, explains the line “why did they take Kobe they could of took Chris Paul, why did they take JuiceWrld they could of took Lil Tecca”, the music scene in Chicago right now, the different styles of rap coming out the city right now, partnering with EMPIRE upcoming project with Zaytoven, and much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
New music by Trip Lee, Isatta Sheriff from the UK, and a flashback by Playdough. Playlist: "On Fire (ft. Zaytoven)" by 1K Phew "Slidin" by indie tribe. "The Feeling (ft. Javy XI)" by Beanies & Snapbacks "Blaze Runner (ft. Malex)" by Sivion "Burn It Down" by Manic X "Shadow Dance (ft. LMNO)" by Krum (Playdough) "NOMO" by Marksman Lloyd "No Chains" by KB "Elevate" by D4C "Again (ft. Jon Keith)" by Social Club Misfits "Beat The Block" by J. Monty "Who Am I (eh-eh)" by Isatta Sheriff "New Day (ft. B-Don)" by Izzy n The Profit "The Voice for the Broken (w/ Izzy)" by Nfors "Standby (ft. Hulvey)" by Trip Lee "What Up? (ft. Terem)" by Sareem Poems "This is my Time" by Lecrae Vote on the playlist at www.definitionradio.com/show/875 Leave your requests/shout-outs on our socials www.facebook.com/DefinitionRadio www.instagram.com/DefinitionHH www.twitter.com/DefinitionHH www.krosswerdz.com
New music by Wande, D4C, Knick Knack, Kyle Wilkins, 1K Phew and Zaytoven. An 'Uprock Summit' flashback from 2011 and a few other Uprock tracks from recent years. Playlist: "STEPPIN (ft. Queen Lee)" by Wande "Rush (ft. Joe Bills)" by Kaboose "Symbiotic" by NomiS "Liu Kang" by The Profit "Turn Around (ft. Scribe)" by River Movement "Get 2 Ya (ft. DG)" by Knick Knack "Knucklehead (ft. Bill B. & TLS)" by GB "Elevate" by D4C "Family Ties (ft. The Guard, Izzy, Mistery, Eskatology, Showt & Risen)" by Nfors "God Made a Way" by WHATUPRG "Criminals in Action (ft. Taylor Gray & The Resistance)" by Cephas "Be Somebody (ft. Alyssa Jane)" by MotionPlus / MP Ancient "MC" by Krosswerdz "Below The Belt Freestyle (Mogli the Iceburg, nobigdyl, Jon Keith & DJ Mykael V)" by indie tribe. "The City Freestyle" by Kyle Wilkins "On Fire (ft. Zaytoven)" by 1K Phew "Body Roc (ft. Chille Baby & Mr Solo)" by Soup the Chemist "Breaking Bread (ft. Oakbridge, Randy Mason, Mastermind, DJ Aslan)" by Krosswerdz Vote on the playlist at www.definitionradio.com/show/871 Leave your requests/shout-outs on our socials www.facebook.com/DefinitionRadio www.instagram.com/DefinitionHH www.twitter.com/DefinitionHH www.krosswerdz.com
BHighTV sits down with Yung LA to talk about his new album with Zaytoven, Futuristic Swag, T.I.,Grand Hustle, and so much more Follow @bhightv and @bhighatl --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/b-high-atl/support
In this episode, our music appreciation goes to the music producer extraordinaire Zaytoven. While watching the Bucks season opener against the "Hardenless" 76ixers, we discussed the latest in football. Then we went into some fresh basketball lays. Finally, we got into this list that everyone has been discussing regarding where not to take a woman on a first date. Thanks for listening.
When you hear "gospel rapper", 1K Phew's look and sound are probably not what come to mind. He came into the Christian Hip-Hop (CHH) scene breaking all the stereotypes.Phew gives rapper names to biblical characters, discusses his upcoming collab project with Zaytoven, shares the story of signing to Lecrae's Reach Records, and more!FOLLOW 1K Phew:https://instagram.com/1kphewFOLLOW One More Time:https://www.instagram.com/onemoretimecasthttps://www.tiktok.com/@onemoretimecastBUY Music Tees:https://www.offkeysupply.com/
This week on The R&B Money Podcast, Tank and J Valentine sit down with one of the illest to ever do this here, Zaytoven! In an extensive conversation, the legendary trap pioneer takes us on his journey from childhood piano lessons to crafting era-defining hits with Gucci Mane, Migos, Future and more. Zaytoven opens up about the unwavering faith that grounds him, his unexpected collaborations with Usher and Jay Z, and crazy road stories that we won't say no names about. Still humble after 20 years, he insists he hasn't peaked yet. Tune in for Tank and J Valentine's inspired talk with a master of southern hip hop, Now on The R&B Money podcast. It's Zaytoven! Extended Episodes on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/RnBMoneyPodcast Follow The Podcast: Tank: @therealtank J Valentine: @JValentine Podcast: @RnbMoneyPodcastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Hey Hoochies! This week we're inducting RBE's Zaytoven into the Battle Rap Hoochie Society and we will also be reviewing Bars and Roses "Guns and Roses" event!Bars and Roses review timestamp: 1:23:00Follow the host on Twitter: @MatessaAshFollow my guest on Twitter: @zatoven15Follow and support Bars and Roses on Twitter: @DajonTee and @THEBarsAndRosesDonateMerchSupport the show
Episode 25 -Chris Moten, Devon ‘Stixx' Taylor & Cassius Jay sit down to talk about their new hit film TRAP JAZZ, out now on Hulu! We talk about the film, seeing themselves on the big screen, making the movie, what it means to set a positive example and inspire, the importance and impact of fatherhood, making hits, all about where they came from (ATL!!) and what's next.Make sure to check out the Trap Jazz film on Hulu, out now!! https://www.hulu.com/movie/trap-jazz-8e800478-3707-47ae-b39f-2838d33b6d00Trap Jazz is the debut feature film from Jammcard Films!‘Go with Elmo Lovano' is a weekly podcast where Elmo interviews creatives and entrepreneurs in music on HOW they push forward every day, got where they are in their careers, manage their personal lives, learned lessons, and focus.Please SUBSCRIBE / FOLLOW this podcast to catch new episodes as soon as they drop! Your likes, comments and shares are much appreciated!Listen to the audio form of this podcast wherever you get your podcasts: https://rss.com/podcasts/gowithelmoFollow Elmo Lovano:https://Instagram.com/elmoovanohttps://Twitter.com/elmolovanoFollow Go With Elmo:https://Instagram.com/gowithelmohttps://twitter.com/gowithelmopodGo With Elmo Lovano on YouTube:https://youtube.com/@gowithelmoFollow Trap Jazzhttps://www.instagram.com/OFFICIALTRAPJAZZ/Devon ‘Stixx' Taylorhttps://www.instagram.com/stixxtaylor/https://www.tiktok.com/stixxtaylorCassius Jayhttps://www.instagram.com/cassiusjay07/Chris Motenhttps://www.instagram.com/mrtrapjazz/Follow Jammcard:https://Instagram.com/Jammcardhttps://TikTok.com/Jammcardhttps://Twitter.com/JammcardJammcard is the Music Professionals Network - https://jammcard.comThe Jammcard app is an invite only social network for vetted music professionals. You can apply to join at https://jammcard.typeform.com/to/g58t0g
August 11, 2023 is the 50th anniversary of hip-hop. What started out mostly as a spoken word artform has become a worldwide juggernaut. Thanks to the moguls who pushed the genre forward, hip-hop went from 0 to 100.In this episode, we rank the 50 greatest moguls in hip-hop's history. We reached out to industry experts — from artists to execs to media personalities — to help us compile the list. Friend of the pod, Zack O'Malley Greenburg, joins me to count them down from No. 50 to No. 10:39 How do we define “mogul”7:06 Honorable mentions09:10 The “Don't overlook their influence” group (ranks 50-41)16:19 The “Playing chess not checkers” group (ranks 40-31)23:38 The “Our impact runs deep” group (ranks 30-21)33:47 No. 2035:37 No. 1937:56 No. 1841:32 No. 1744:27 No. 1647:21 No. 1551:22 No. 14 55:55 No. 1359:09 No. 121:00:46 No. 111:02:16 No. 101:04:39 No. 91:06:44 No. 81:10:20 No. 71:14:06 No. 61:15:37 No. 51:17:11 No. 41:20:53 No. 31:29:06 No. 21:30:34 No. 11:33:22 Who got snubbed?1:35:42 What trends stick out from the list?1:41:21 Who would you pick to run your empire?Listen: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | SoundCloud | Stitcher | Overcast | Amazon | Google Podcasts | Pocket Casts | RSSHost: Dan Runcie, @RuncieDan, trapital.coGuests: Zack O'Malley Greenburg, @zogblogThis episode is sponsored by DICE. Learn more about why artists, venues, and promoters love to partner with DICE for their ticketing needs. Visit dice.fmEnjoy this podcast? Rate and review the podcast here! ratethispodcast.com/trapitalTrapital is home for the business of music, media and culture. Learn more by reading Trapital's free memo.TRANSCRIPT[00:00:00] Zack Greenburg: ownership. Was just such an important thing for Nipsey. Such an important thing for Berner. And, you know, interviewing the two of them, I would say, their mindset around ownership was the closest I've ever seen to Jay Z.[00:00:13] Dan Runcie Intro Audio: Hey, welcome to the Trapital Podcast. I'm your host and the founder of Trapital, Dan Runcie. This podcast is your place to gain insights from the executives in music, media, entertainment, and more who are taking hip hop culture to the next level.[00:00:39] Dan Runcie Guest Intro: This episode is a celebration to hip hop's 50th anniversary. This is a countdown on the 50 greatest moguls ever in hip hop. I'm joined by Zack O'Malley Greenburg, friend of the pod, and we both reached out to. A bunch of label heads, executives, people in hip hop that would know best. And we put it together in an aggregate list.And we're here to break down that list today. We talk about what does it mean to be a mogul? What are some of the considerations we made when we were looking into this list ourselves, how the results looked, what surprised us? What were the snubs? What were the misses? And what can we learn from this overall?And if Zack and I were putting together our dream teams, what would that look like? This is a lot of fun. Really happy with how it turned out. So let's dive in.[00:01:25] Dan Runcie: All right, hip hop's 50th anniversary is right around the corner and we decided to celebrate it in the only way that we know best countdown hip hop's greatest moguls and I'm joined by Zack O'malley Greenburg, who reached out to me about this. I was really excited about it and we spent some time over the past couple of weeks, reaching out to people we know, making sure that we have the best insights looking through and making sure that we had all of the. Breakdowns to share. So Zack, I'm ready for this. How are you feeling?[00:01:55] Zack Greenburg: I am stoked. Yeah, I mean, you know, 50th anniversary of hip hop. We reached out to 50 different judges. amongst, you know, the sort of, the most respected folks from, you know, label heads to artists to entrepreneurs, you know, I think we've got half of them, roughly half of them replied since in their votes, we're going to keep their individual votes anonymous, but, you know, Dan could tell you about some of the judges.Yeah, and it was just really fun to kind of mix it up, you know, I think the thing about this list, a lot of these characters are just kind of an apples to oranges comparison as you'll see once we dive into it, but that's the beauty of it, right? I mean, how do you, you know, compare like a pioneering executive to like a modern day artist mogul? And we really kind of left it in the hands of the judges. And we just said, basically the only guidance was, this is a business focused list, but you know, you can rank artists, executives, people who are both. It just, whatever your definition of mogul is, that's how, you know, that's how you should rank them. And people submitted lists and obviously the higher they rank somebody, the more points we gave them and, you know, the lower they got, but, you know, so there's some people on there who are like accumulators. They ended up on everybody's list, but not so high, but, you know, as a result, they ended up on the top 50.And then there are some who were just like, not ranked at all by most people, but had a couple of really high ranks so that they made the list. So I think it's a pretty cool mix.[00:03:10] Dan Runcie: Right? It's kind of like how we look at artists. There's some artists that have just been consistent, steady through and through each year. You'll always get some reliable output from them, but then there are other artists too. They were the best for a certain amount of time. Maybe they cooled off for a bit.Maybe they came back and that's kind of the way music is too. One of the things that. I was asked whenever I was reaching out to people about this was the same thing that you posed earlier. People wanted to know, how are we defining mogul and we left it up to their interpretation. It is a term that means different things to different people, but maybe for the sake of this conversation, let's kick it off here.Zack, how do you define mogul? And how did you define it when creating your list?[00:03:51] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, I mean, to me a hip hop mogul, more general is just, you know, somebody who not only is a business person, but has some degree of ownership, in whatever it is that they're doing. that's not the only definition of it for me, but like, you know, when I was putting together my rankings, I thought, you know, who are the owners?the same time, you know, people who are executives who are in a decision making place. you know, that counts for something. And I think also, you know, if you're an artist, and you simply have some control over your own work, you maintain your copyrights, whatever, like that counts as being a mogul. So, you know, specifically when it comes to hip hop, you know, I'd say people who are, you know, definitely getting in charge of your own work, but also creating new lines of business, you know, influencing the culture. but you know, a way that they've got some skin in the game from a business perspective, you know, that, kind of thing.That's kind of how I looked at it. but you could see from the votes that, you know, everybody had a slightly different definition too.[00:04:47] Dan Runcie: Yeah, there was definitely a lot of correlation with the artists who tend to be the ones that are the wealthiest. They end up at the highest rankings in on some of those lists, too, but it wasn't exactly correlated because there's a difference. And these are some of the things I kept in mind, too, with the mogul definition, thinking specifically aboutinfluence and impact, were you having, or did you create opportunities for others around you? Were you able to be a bit of a kingmaker or queenmaker in your respective right? Was there a impact in terms of other generations that either looked and modeled how they're doing what they're doing and looking at you as some form of inspiration with that?So there's the indirect impact and influence, but also the, Indirect piece of it too. So there's the money piece as well, but then what do you do with that money? And then that's how I had went about it. And similarly, everyone had their own unique spin to it.[00:05:42] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, for sure. And, you know, and I think the definition changed over time, of what a mogul really is, but when I was putting my rankings together, I think the idea of starting something new, you know, that's also paramount, amongst all the criteria as well.[00:05:55] Dan Runcie: Right? So, of course, Zack and I had our list, but we reached out to a number of people and several other label heads, executives, and people that are in the game.So thank you all to your contributions. We couldn't have done this without you. And if anything, it helped add a variety beyond just you and I, getting and putting our list out there. It added a more full scope and like anything. Oh, this is how you look at it. Interesting and being able to pull unique insights there.[00:06:21] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, for sure. you know, one thing I think we probably ought to point out, on the list, you know, the list is, heavily male. but it's about only 20% women on the list. you know, we did everything we could obviously to make it more equitable, but, you know, the votes are the votes.And, you know, I think there is a bit of a reflection of sort of the state of affairs over the past half century, you know, unfortunately, like many parts of music business, hip hop has been, you know, heavily overindexing for males. So, you know, here's hoping that when 50 years to do a hundred years of hip hop, you know, we'll have even things out a bit or completely, let's say maybe even, you know, made up for lost time, but I think some of the spots on the list, you know, the rankings do kind of reflect an industry reality that we've seen, unfortunately for 50 years.[00:07:06] Dan Runcie: Right? And hopefully this gets better. We do feel and you'll see when we talk about some of the people here, glad about some of the names that got mentioned. Of course, there's always room to be able to have more and hopefully for hip hop's 100th anniversary. If when and people are breaking that down, there's hopefully even more representation there.So, with that, I think it's probably good for us to get started right before the list, but talk about some of the honorable mentions. So, there were people that didn't quite make the cut of 50, but we still wanted to highlight them and the work that they. Did here. So a few of those names here to give a shout out to.So we have Cindy Campbell, Jermaine Dupree, Audrey Harrell, Jay Cole, Damon John. What comes or what do you think about when you hear those names?[00:07:55] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, you know, I mean, Cindy Campbell, I think in many ways you could look at her as the first promoter in hip hop history, right? I mean, you know, we're talking about 50 years of hip hop. That's 50 years from that first party that. She and DJ Kool Herc through, you know, in the rec room on Cedric Avenue.And, I think the idea was that they were going to raise a little bit of cash so she could go get herself a new back to school wardrobe. Now, if that's not, you know, entrepreneurship and hip hop, you know, from the very beginning, I don't know what it is. And so I think Cindy deserves a ton of credit, for being there at the very beginning, you know, but I think on the honorable mentions to a lot of the folks that are on here, you know, or maybe like a little bit, you know, not exactly falling on the same radar, you know, for the list. So like, you know, Damon John, obviously he did with, you know, creating FUBU and, you know, everything he's done as an entrepreneur, it's incredible, but it, I think it's sort of like more of a national brand that is, you know, apart from hip hop and so is his personality, right? Like you see him on shark tank or, you know, whatever, like he sort of moved past, I wouldn't necessarily categorize him, as just hip hop, although he's had a tremendous impact on hip hop.So I think probably that's why, he wasn't on more lists. It's not to sort of ding him his impact, which is considerable.[00:09:10] Dan Runcie: Right, and I do think that of course, music is one element of hip hop. You do have fashion, you do have others. So music definitely got weighted heavily in this list, but Dave and John and his influence in fashion, and there's other people in fashion and we'll get into them in this list too, but we can't overlook everything he did there and some of the more unique and clever marketing tactics that came from food booth that other people did who will mention in this list as well. 1 person that I do want to highlight here from that list 2 people. So, Jermaine Dupri want to give him a shout out as well. Just everything he was able to do with.So, so Def records. He was part of that movement in the 90s, where you saw LaFace and then all these other groups in the South be able to come up, do their own. There was a so so deaf sound, a so so Def vibe and his ability to do it both in rap, but also have a bit of the soul there. Some of the epic production that he's been involved with, even outside of hip hop, thinking about albums like Mariah Carey's Emancipation of Mimi and others, even though he didn't always do everything in hip hop. I think that some of his influence can't go overstated there. And then the second person who's similar in that regard, I would say is Andre Harrell. We talked about him in past episodes, especially the bad boy one, but everything that he did from Uptown Records and then moving on to Motown Records and gave in many ways helped give Puff the blueprint for what he was able to do years later.[00:10:37] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, I think Andre had a lot of successes, also had a lot of failures, not necessarily, you know, through his own doing, the time, but definitely somebody who deserves, you know, a hat tip at the very least. And, you know, I'm sure Puff would agree about that too.[00:10:52] Dan Runcie: Agreed. Agreed. All right. We ready ready to get into it.[00:10:57] Zack Greenburg: Let's do it.[00:10:58] Dan Runcie: All right. So in the initial group here, which we're calling the don't overlook their influence group. This is people who are ranked 50 through 41. so in order we have Ethiopia have to Marion at 50. She was the former CEO of Motown. We have Top Dog, co founder and CEO of Top Dog Entertainment. We have Mona Scott Young from her work at Violators and more recently Love Hip Hop. And what she also has done with Hip Hop Homicides and some other multimedia projects. We have T.I. with everything he's done with Grand Hustle and Multimedia. We have Eazy E with Priority Records. Many ways pioneering so much of the stuff we saw.We have Todd Moskowitz, L. A. Reed, Craig Kalman, former CEO from Atlantic. We have Sylvia Roan and then tied for 40. We have Desiree Perez and Steve Stout. What are your thoughts on that group list?[00:11:55] Zack Greenburg: Oh, man, I don't know. Maybe we should just pick out a few here and there that we thought were particularly interesting. I mean, you know, I think Ethiopia is a good example of somebody who would be higher up if she were identified, you know, solely as a, you know, as a hip hop mogul, but she's had kind of like a pretty wide reach, you know, especially in R and B, and pop. I mean, some of the stuff she's done with Erykah Badu, NeYo, Stevie Wonder, you know, like over the years, you know, wouldn't be classified as hip hop, but it's worth it nonetheless. just think that, you know, being kind of like in between, in between genres, you know, resulted in her being down a little bit further on the list.But, you know, somebody who had a tremendous impact. you know, I would also, I would highlight TI here, you know, the self proclaimed King of the South, but, you know, in terms of, I remember the years when, you know, we were putting together the Forbes list and, you know, kind of looking at, you know, kind of regionally who is most important to me.Yeah, he was sort of like. The Jay Z of the South. And he was really, especially when he was having that moment, you know, getting a lot of songs on, you know, national radio and, kind of being in the public eye, I mean, had a tremendous business focus, you know, he was always interested in sort of like, what's the next thing that I can create?and you know, that kind of entrepreneurial energy, you know, I think, especially within the context of the South, like taking the blueprint, from guys like Jay Z, you know, I think he certainly deserves a mention. I kind of thought he'd end up higher here, but I guess he's been, not as, especially in the music front lately.and then I would definitely highlight, Desiree, you know, she's somebody who's been behind the scenes for a really long time, with Jay Z and rock nation, but like. she runs rock nation. And although Jay Z obviously has the final say in things, you know, a lot of things that you see, come out of that camp are, you know, her doing and have her fingerprints all over them.And I know some of y'all might have seen the Book of Hove exhibit at the Brooklyn Museum or the Brooklyn Public Library that was a Desiree Perez production and, you know, she said that it was like her emptying her 80, 000 square foot storage unit into the library, but, you know, but to have, you know, that kind of, impact at a place like Roc Nation and to help, you know, Jay Z do what he's done, you know, I think those are all worthy, of notation and, you know, I think she deserves her spot there for sure.[00:14:09] Dan Runcie: Yeah, Desiree is someone that has been working with Jay Z for a while now, and I feel like she deserved a shout out on Jay's verse in Pound Cake, the Drake song. You know where he's like, Dave made millions, Lyor made millions. I feel like Desiree should have gotten a shout out there too, but yeah.I'm glad that she got mentioned here. Two other names I'll run through quickly. Steve Stout, someone who I thought would have ended up higher, and I know that, you know, it was interesting to see how the results played out, but I do think that one of the best marketers that we've seen come through hip hop.He was ahead of the curve in a number of ways, dating back to the 90s with seeing the men in black sunglasses and everything that he's done there from his time working with Nas, everything that they've done, whether it was the firm or, him being a record executive himself and then showing as well, how he's able to do it in advertising and bringing a lot of these companies and brands that didn't necessarily align or think about being related with, you know, hip hop culture and those elements to be able to do it.You look at a company like State Farm and how we now look at what that company has done. And a lot of that is through his work and obviously with what he's done at United Masters. So shout out there and I also do want to give a shout out to Mona Scott Young mentioned her earlier, but she was a right hand to someone who will mention on the list as well coming up soon with everything she did in Violator, this is back when, you know, Q Tip and Busta Rhymes and that whole crew were doing their thing. And then later, I know people have a lot of polarizing opinions about love and hip hop, but if you look at the career opportunities that were created for people that have came through, and the longevity that she's granted, a lot of people that the record industry forgot about that she was able to continue to give opportunities for think about the trick daddies, Trina's and folks like that. I know people hate to see them arguing on camera, but would we have Cardi B where she is today? If it weren't for the platform of love and hip hop, and she's continued to do things with other vocals on the list that we'll get into. So I do want to give a shout out to her[00:16:08] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, definitely a worthy shout out. And we could probably go on and on about even just like the tent in this bracket here, but I suppose we ought to, we ought to move on to the next room before, before we run[00:16:19] Dan Runcie: indeed. Yep. So the next group is playing chest, not checkers. So at 39, we have Dave Mays, founder of the source 38. We have Irv Gotti, founder of Murder, Inc. 37, Cardi B 36, Lil Wayne 35, Nipsey Hussle, 34. Steve Rifkin, from Loud Records 33, Missy Elliot. 32 Birder from Cookies, 31 Kevin Lyles and 30 Chris Lighty.[00:16:47] Zack Greenburg: Oh man, this is a pretty stacked bracket, I must say. I think that, you know, there are a couple of names that stick out to me here. I'm going to go with Nipsey and Berner, because in a funny way, I think, they have like a sort of a similar, a sort of similar strategy, which is like, you have a very clear idea of what it is that you're going to do.You own it, and then you, you know, you continue to own it like ownership. Was just such an important thing for Nipsey. Such an important thing for Berner. And, you know, interviewing the two of them, I would say, their mindset around ownership was the closest I've ever seen to Jay Z. and they really understood from the beginning that they had to own all their music.Own all of their branding own, you know, the companies that create on the side and then they can monetize it later. And, you know, with Nipsey rest in peace. I mean, he was just on the cusp of, of kind of like becoming a mainstream superstar, you know, when, his life ended all too soon. So, I think what Berner is doing with cookies is really fascinating like Berner is, you know, you want to talk, lists. I mean, he's in the top five, probably the top four or three at this point, in terms of net worth for actual, hip hop artists. And that's because of the success of cookies and, you know, there's been, a lot of ups and downs in the cannabis business lately, but like the amount of ownership that he has, you know, I think it amounts to about one third still of cookies, which is, you know, a billion dollar brand. When we gets legalized, you know, like he's going to see the fruits of his labor and, that focus on ownership I think is really going to pay off on the longterm.So I would highlight those two guys, in this tier as the ones that, I think were the most impressive to me. That's not to shade anybody else, but,[00:18:25] Dan Runcie: Yeah, those two guys are also two of the few people who I see people still wearing their merchandise on a regular basis. Granted, I live in San Francisco. There's a cookie store here. So, I mean, I know there is a local connection for sure, but same with Nipsey Hussle. I mean, sadly, it's now been over 4 years since he passed away, and you still see Crenshaw shirts.He understood, Nipsey especially, understood exactly where everything's going. And it's just so sad that, you know, it was gone so soon. Two names, I'm going to shout out here. I'm going to shout. I'm going to shout out Cardi B and I want to shout out Chris Lighty. So Cardi B talked about her a little with the Mona Scott young piece, but she's entered and ran her rap career more uniquely than other artists that we've seen at her level have. And I think that speaks a lot to just where the game is now. It's been over six years since Bodak Yellow came out. And it's been over five years now since her debut album. This is someone who hasn't put out a studio album in over five years.And hasn't gone on tour in a traditional way, but it's still doing her thing. And I think this is one of the things that's unique. She finds interesting ways to monetize herself and to put herself on. She's like, Hey, I can do these private shows and they're going to pay me, you know, 1. 5 million or 3 million just to do a half an hour set.I'm going to do my thing. I'm going to be there at Super Bowl weekend. I may not be performing at the Super Bowl, but I'm going to go do these private shows for Bob craft or the fanatics event or all these things and collect the checks. it's very interesting to see younger artists to do that Lionel Richie playbook, but she is like, Hey, I don't necessarily have to do that. And even though people always do try to, you know, loop her into the Nicki Minaj versus Cardi B beef, she still has lended her hand and extended it to other young artists, especially women in the game, whether it's Ice Spice and others, whether she's doing it through her talents and others. So she's someone that I hope as she continues on, you know, into her thirties and into her forties can continue to rise up this list.And then Chris Lighty talked about a little bit with Mona Sky Young, co founder of Violator and everything they're able to do there. Sad that he was taken away so soon, but if you have not heard this yet and if you haven't listened to the podcast, I highly recommend the Mogul podcast series that was done several years ago on it.It was done by Reggie Yose, who is Combat Jack, who has since passed away as well, but I highly recommend that if you want a full breakdown on everything Chris Leite did. Violator and after that was truly one of the early ones looking at product partnerships and a lot of the things that we see now that are common in hip hop.[00:21:07] Zack Greenburg: And, you know, if we didn't have Chris Lighty, I don't think we would have had 50 Cent. I mean, at least not to the extent that we have him. you know, I mean, I remember writing my first story about 50 and like for Forbes, maybe 2008 and sitting down with Chris and just kind of like hearing him lay out the plan.And again, it's the emphasis on ownership, right? you know, Chris Leidy, I think was the one who really pushed, 50 to take the equity in vitamin water and his parent company, rather than just do an endorsement. And, you know, obviously that became a huge, deal and really like a model for so much, not only of hip hop, but like other parts of the entertainment industry, you know, I think Chris definitely deserves a spot, maybe even should be a little higher. and you know, probably also, there's, you know, again, all these folks deserve a shout out, but Kevin Lyles, I think is, got one of the most inspirational stories. you know, it's another person, I think we've both interviewed a bunch of times, but, you know, just his journey from intern to president of Def Jam and I think seven years. And he just did it by working harder than everybody else like he wasn't an artist that got put there because he had some hit, it wasn't some kind of like nepotism deal, you know, he just outworked everybody and, you know, he had the talent and, you know, the horsepower to just like get it done. And to make that journey within seven years. So I think it's, for people who are listening and, you know, want to do something like that with their own career, you know, study Kevin Miles because he was able to make it, without being, you know, some kind of like preternatural, singing talent or something like that he just did it on smarts and work ethic.[00:22:39] Dan Runcie: And one of the few people that co founded a record label and sold it a decade later for hundreds of millions of dollars, which is what he did 300 as well. Right? So of course, not 300 now underwater, but everything he did with Lyor and Todd, there, is impressive. There's not that many black founders in general. In tech, any sector that have built and exited companies for several hundred, a million dollars, the way that he was able to be a part of that. So, hats offhim.[00:23:09] Zack Greenburg: yeah, I think it takes a special kind of guts to be able to, you know, I mean, he was a well paid executive with a cushy music job, you know, to leave that world, start your own thing. I mean, I know they had, you know, big backers and everything, but like to take a risk once you've already experienced that level of success and to go out and start something, you know, as opposed to starting something from scratch when you have nothing anyway.I mean, it, takes a lot of gumption to do that. So, you know, again, yes, a pretty cool second act for Kevin miles.[00:23:38] Dan Runcie: Indeed, the next group here, our impact runs deep. It is Nicki Will Smith at 28, Swiss beats 27, LL Cool J, 26, Coach K and P, 25, Julie Greenwald, 24. The E40 23, Pharrell 22, and Rick Ross, 21.[00:24:01] Zack Greenburg: Yeah. I think, that's a pretty strong, deck there. And I think also, you know, here, you find some people who, you could argue should be higher or lower based on, you know, how much of their career was done in the hip hop music world, right? Like Queen Latifah, LL Cool J, Will Smith.Obviously those are huge crossover acts. but I think they all got a lot of points from some of the voters because, you know, that is in one way, the measure of a mogul, like you're diversifying your portfolio and whether that's by owning different things or, you know, by getting into, different types of performance, you know, on the silver screen, I think that's a viable path too.but just from like a purely musical entrepreneurial perspective, I would highlight, Swiss Beats and Pharrell, who I think, you know, the two of them are more influential than anybody in terms of like, I'd say Swizz in terms of art and Pharrell in terms of fashion. and you know, some of the things they've done around those two areas and, you know, Pharrell certainly, now with LVMH, but also before with Ice Cream, Billionaire Boys Club, you know, he was very active in starting his own things on the fashion side.And, you know, kind of inspiring artists to do that. you know, would we have had a Yeezy if we hadn't had Pharrell, you know, doing what he was doing and, you know, and even doing what he did with Adidas? you know, I don't know about that. And, Swiss beads certainly, you know, not only from the art side of things, but you know, it's a really impressive art collection.I did a story on him a few years ago and, you know, he's got like, Jeff Kuhn sculptures and Basquiat's and Warhol's and his, you know, like in his foyer. I mean, it's, pretty impressive stuff. but the way that he moves behind the scenes, as sort of like a corporate brand whisperer, at places, you know, like Bacardi, Lotus, you know, this goes on, you know, I think he, he's sort of like more quietlyinfluential than, some folks realize. And, you know, certainly has been earning, on par with, you know, with all the, you know, most of the names, if not higher than most of the names we've mentioned so far. and you know, what he's done on the, both of them, what they've done on the production side, also hard to top.So that must count for something as well. I kind of went more than one shout out there, didn't I? So[00:26:06] Dan Runcie: Yeah. No, that was good. That was good.I'm glad you mentioned the two of them though, because if you didn't, I probably would've called the other one out. The thing about Swiss as well, everything that he's done with versus specifically also embodies this idea and definition of a mogul because he was able to be.A kingmaker in the sense of creating opportunities for others. He did that through the equity that he was able to give all of those early participants in versus in trailer itself. And then additionally, with the careers that we're able to have a boost because of. everything that happened, with the matchups from versus specifically, you look at someone like Ashanti, who is now doing tours and pop it up every now and then she wasn't doing that before her versus and her battle versus Keisha Cole was one of the not, if not the most watched one that we've had.You look at Jadakiss and everything that he's been able to do since his epic showdown against, with Lox versus Dipset with that versus you look at Jeezy versus Gucci Mane. I know that versus definitely had its peak popularity during the pandemic, but that kind of stuff that he was able to do with Timbaland, I think also speaks so much to everything that he's been able to do there.And another person I want to mention to that was in this group as well that I think is similar is LL Cool J because I think similar to the way that. Swiss beets is Ella is also with someone that's been involved with multimedia with everything from the jump. He was the 1st artist to truly breakthrough from Def Jam and did it as a teenager.So, of course, he gets plenty of shout out for that, but he's also always been trying to find ways to look out for that next generation of artists. And he's been doing some of that more recently with rock the bells, and that's its own. Company and entity now where they have a festival coming up as well to celebrate things that are happening with hip hops anniversary.So it's been cool to see him do things as well. And I'll give a very brief shout out here to, coach K and P because they, similar to how I mentioned, Kevin Liles were able to build and grow a company and then sell it for, I believe, forget the exact sale price for, quality control. But they were able to do that thanks in part to a lot of the work that Ethiopia had done, helping to give quality control, the platform that it did, and especially in an era where I think it's harder for a record label to have a true brand, they were able to help give it a boost.[00:28:36] Zack Greenburg: That's true. And on that note of labels, I think Julie Greenwald, there's a mention, you know, she and Craig Kalman, who's mentioned, in an earlier grouping, you know, run Atlantic together. And there's a lot of, of music that we wouldn't have seen if it had been for the two of them, you know, running the show over there.So, shout out to Julie. I mean, the only one actually we haven't discussed here with E40 and Rick Ross. And I don't know, you know, probably get moving, but, do you think Rick Ross deserves to be number 21 on this entire list? Like ahead of Pharrell, ahead of, you know, some of the other names on here. I was surprised that he was ranked this high.[00:29:09] Dan Runcie: I love the spicy questions. Cause this is what people wanted to hear the podcast about, right? They wanted to hear one of us, you know, poke the bear a little bit.If Rick Ross was able to nail that dive in the pool, do you think you would have ranked him higher?[00:29:21] Zack Greenburg: Ha ha ha ha ha ha. No, no, I wouldn't. I mean, I still know. I mean, you know, like I get it, you know, he's called the boss that he must be a mogul, You know, and, some of the things he's done in terms of, you know, Bel Air and Maybach music and all that. Sure. But like, you know, when you put them up against like some of the other ones, did he really do something new or was he more just like following a, blueprint that had worked for others before and, you know, executing it to a degree success, but like, again, not, you know, not to the level of, let's say Pharrell.I think maybe I just, I'm salty that he ended up ahead of Pharrell. I think Pharrell is just way more influential and Mowgli, but, I don't know. What do you think?[00:29:59] Dan Runcie: So, I've read 2 of Ross's books and I interviewed him once on Trapital. I think that, to your point, he did follow the blueprint that we saw from others. I think he is smart about the types of partnerships he does, but it does feel like a ditty light. Type of playbook that he's been able to do and build.And I do think a lot of it makes sense. He may not necessarily have the large media entities the way that he does. Although I do think he's overdue for some type of comedy show or some type of reality show just following him around because I think he's hilarious. And anytime that he gets that, it could just generate something unique.And I'm sure he's been hit up about it. I do think that he's done well for himself. Just thinking about. Now, how his career is growing, I think it's been what, 16, 17 years since hustling 1st came out. I think in this range, there is some flexibility there in terms of like, where people are in certain ways.I get why he may not necessarily be as high. I'm sure if you looked at the net worth or the earnings, that some of the people that are lower than him may actually be higher. I think 1 of the knocks potentially is although Maybach music was cool. I wrote about this in Trapit as well. I think there was a missed opportunity.And part of that comes from, huh, did Ross do all the things that he probably could have done from a leadership perspective to especially like, when Meek Mill and Wally were beefing and stuff. And I think Ross had a bit more of a laissez faire approach to things, which in some ways is kind of the opposite of King making as we're talking about this, right?Can we really bring folks together and make something larger than it is. I think it was a bit tough in general for people to try to do everything themselves, try to be the boss of this label, which is signed to a different label because Rick Ross was signed to a different label than MNG was himself. And I think anytime you have that type of dynamic, it's just splitting the leadership interests. So I hear you.[00:32:00] Zack Greenburg: Yeah. So then how much of a mogul are you, if your label is really, you know, so I guess everybody's labels on somebody else's label and have you distributed by something, but you know, it's like when they're like multiple labels kind of, you know, intertwined with your label, it kind of causes the question.are you really the boss? If you have several bosses that you're answering to, but you know, I think actually though. in Rick Ross's defense, what he's done with Wingstop, I mean, that is pretty unique and, I don't know that anybody else on this list has something comparable in that space.So, you know, maybe that's why, I think, you know, by virtue of that, you could put them pretty high up. And maybe that's what some of the judges were thinking, you know, but he also ended up on a lot of lists, you know, so some of the judges just kind of like, maybe we're getting to some of the judges sent rank lists, and they're like, you know, this person is the top and they should get the most points and other people were like, here are my people.And you can just rank them evenly. and I think Rick Ross ended up on a lot of those lists. So, you know. I think again, maybe like I was alluding to earlier, he's a bit of a compiler, nothing wrong with that, you know, you can get into the hall of fame by compiling 3000 hits, but, it's interesting to see how, how the opinions differ. That's the whole fun of it.[00:33:06] Dan Runcie: He runs his business is almost like how a small business owner would in a number of ways where he has a bunch of car washes and, you know, his is 1 of the family members does that he has his wing stops, right? He has that. And it is a bit of this, like, mogul dumbness from that perspective in terms of like, okay, I have my hands in these things and I've hired people to have, you know, different roles within that that doesn't necessarily have things in aggregate. It's a bit more of the strip mall mentality as opposed to the, you know, building a skyscraper that could then build other skyscrapers, but it's something worth mentioning, but I hope we keep that up with a few of the other rankings we have coming up as we dig into the top 20, here.So, yeah, let's start with 20. So, 20, Queen Latifah, I think that she and, Ice Cube, who we'll get into in a minute, were one of the first that noticed, hey, I may not be able to do this rap thing forever, what are areas that I can expand this multimedia empire and everything I'm building.She was able to do this with Living Single, the show that was Friends before Friends was, and even the way that she was able to show young black people that were having, you know, highly sought after roles, but they still had their interpersonal dynamics. It was cool. It was refreshing. It was aspirational, which I do think that a lot of the black sitcoms were in the 90s.And she was able to do that, continue finding ways to put other people on as well through the work that she did. She was also willing to take risks. Like I remember when she was in set it off, people had a bunch of questions about, Oh, you're going to play a lesbian in this heist movie. What is this going to do for your career?And she was willing to do that. And I think she is always, you know, be willing to take risks. So, you know, shout out to her and I'm glad that several people have mentioned her[00:34:56] Zack Greenburg: Yeah. And I think she gets credit for, like you say, diversifying her portfolio. you know, into the acting world. it's worth noting, you know, she was barely ahead of Rick Ross. but you know, there is a big difference between 21 and 20. It's the top 20. So, again, I think, you know, she was a bit of a compiler, but there were a couple of people who ranked her in the top 10.and, you know, I think just like in terms of the breadth of her career, you know, the longevity, the diversity of the things that she's gotten into. you know, even if it's not as much ownership as somebody, even like a Rick Ross, it's just like, having your hands in a lot of pies and like that really counts for something as a mogul.So, I think it makes sense to see you there.[00:35:36] Dan Runcie: Agreed 19 is Eminem. So let's talk about it. How do we feel about Eminem in 19?[00:35:43] Zack Greenburg: You know, I think it's a weird one, honestly. you know, there's no doubting, his lyrical prowess and where, you know, where he kind of stacks up as part of like the pantheon of lyricists, like fine. But is he really a mogul? I mean, he's somebody who has been, you know, very reclusive at times. Who has, you know, kind of gotten in his own way at other times. I mean, I could see ranking him up here though, just by virtue of ownership of the music and sort of like the quality and quantity of his catalog. you know, what he did with D12, you know, he did have shady records and, you know, and all that.So again, you know, there, there is kind of a layer cake of a label situation, like some of the folks who mentioned earlier across, but, you know, that was at least important to him to set up, you know, as his continued ownership of, You know, his work and, you know, certainly when it comes to like raw commercial prowess, you know, Eminem, is one of the best selling hip hop artists of all time.If not the best, depending on how you look at it. And just, you know, simply by virtue of the amount of revenue he generated, you know, throughout the late 90s and early aughts at the peak of the sort of CD age there. you know, that deserves, some kind of something, even if he wasn't running around starting his own, you know, side businesses as much as some of these other folks[00:37:02] Dan Runcie: Best selling artist of the 2000s by a pretty strong amount, I believe, and has the most of any genre, right? And the most streamed song of the 2000s as well, at least on Spotify with Lose Yourself, and I'm pretty sure Till I Collapse and maybe a couple of others aren't too far. Behind as Will Page as Spotify's former chief economist said, anytime Eminem farts or burps or releases anything on a streaming service, it provides a huge bump to everything in this back catalog.So, I still laugh about that, but I do think that speaks to it there and. If, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he was one of the first hip hop artists to have a Sirius XM channel himself.So that's something that's unique and obviously Sirius is still doing its thing. So, shout out to him there. A bit higher than I probably would have ranked him, but that's why it's interesting to get the group results here. Ah, this one's gonna be spicy. Number 18. Your boy, Suge Knight.[00:38:02] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, you know, I mean, I think this is one of the tougher ones on the entire list. You know, this is not like a list of, Ms. Congeniality or Mr. Congeniality, as you'll see, you know, some of the other names on here. Obviously, you know, Suge is in jail. he's been involved in the death of, you know, human beings that like that is, you know, not sort of like what you're after in a mogul here, but, enough people, you know, I guess felt that the business, if you just, you know, looking at it from a pure business perspective, was enough to put them up here. And, you know, there is no arguing that death row at its peak was one of the most influential record labels, you know, not just in hip hop, but of anything. I mean, any genre, when death row was at its hottest, I don't know any, kind of moment where any other, you know, you'd have to stack that up against peak Motown or, you know, Atlantic or something like that, but, you know, that was really like a, peak moment. So, you know, I think this is one of the things we run into on this list like if somebody exhibits, a level of, you know, sort of business ingenuity, you know, that counts for something and, you know, the other things that you do in your life and your career, you know, we'll detract from that, but, you know, what you did at your peak, I think will get you pretty far in a list like this when people kind of count, you know, we kind of count sort of like the ceiling as opposed to the average, in some cases. So, I don't know. What do you think?[00:39:27] Dan Runcie: These are the two most impressive business moves that Suge Knight has done. Number two is shaking down Vanilla Ice to get his points for everything that he did on the album that had Ice Ice Baby there. Because he was able to use that money to then start and co found Death Row with Dr. Dre. That's number two.Number one is at the 1995 Source Awards where he publicly makes his Call to attract Tupac to say, Hey, I know you're in jail, but we're riding with you. Tupac wasn't signed there at the time, but he knew that this was an opportunity. Tupac likely needed somewhere to call a home and he called his shot. He was able to make it happen.I know everyone talks about the diddy shot about, you know, being all in the video death row. And that, of course, is infamous in its own right. But I think the number one thing that should night did is that that said. those 2 things speak to what should night is, 1, it is that muscle and the prowess of being able to overpower a situation and then take advantage.And I think those were things that he was good at. That said, I don't think he was necessarily strong as a. Business leader, the company imploded in large part. And I don't think it imploded because of Dr. Dre, it imploded because of all of the things, all the shenanigans. And I think for what he was building, some of that just got a little too close to the sun, unfortunately. And, that's Chuck Knight[00:40:49] Zack Greenburg: And, I think that, you know, in some of the reporting I've done over the years, One of the things people say is that Shug and a lot of the guys around him, you know, it wasn't that they were necessarily like that. It's just they kind of had been watching too many bad gangster movies and the music business, didn't know what to do with somebody like Suge Knight.And so the more he kind of like played this role, the more he grew into it to where, to the point where he was actually living sort of a bad gangster movie. and sort of like created, turned himself into a monster. Yeah, so I think like the evolution. or the evolution, of somebody like Suge Knight is sort of fascinating in terms of like what you can, what sort of playing a role can do to you, over the course of time.[00:41:32] Dan Runcie: Agreed. And well said number 17 here is America's most wanted ice cube. I'll start here to kick things off. I think that Ice Cube, like Queen Latifah mentioned earlier, was one of the early ones who had said that he knew that living and doing everything off a raft wasn't gonna last forever. And I think a lot of it was because he experienced some of the brunt and ugliness of it.I mean, we've all seen the Straight Outta Compton movie. He goes into Jerry Heller's office. He starts smashing shit. He releases no Vaseline. There was definitely a no fucks given that carried through even after he was done with NWA, but he saw what this industry is like as well and then that's when he starts writing screenplays.And then that's how Friday because the thing becomes a thing. And then. His career just continues to take off after that he still dabbled in rap and did his thing, but he definitely became known early on for one of the people that took a risk with cube entertainment and everything that he was able to do there.And with any of the movies that he had, whether it was the movies with Mike Epps and plenty others, I do believe that most of these movies were pretty profitable. And he was able to. Do it work within the confines that he had and just continue to build everything he did from a career. We've seen him expand as well into everything that he's done with the big 3 specifically giving a home for basketball players that can still play, but maybe they can't make, you know, a 13 person NBA roster anymore.I do think that some of his more recent news highlights that are a bit more politically driven or him walking around with Tucker Carlson and probably take it away from some of the more prominent memories of Hugh Ice Cube is, but yeah, that's why I had had him or that's why he, I think deserves to be, you know, where he is, on the list.[00:43:27] Zack Greenburg: Yeah. And I think it's interesting, you know, you see, Eminem, Suge Knight, Ice Cube, all together, you know, they're all, inextricably connected to Dr. Dre. one way or the other. Right. and you know, would there, would Dre have been Dre without the three of them? you know, at different phases of his career, you know, I don't know, I mean, I think certainly what, Ice Cube did as part of NWA, you know, I wouldn't say that, that NWA was like.like a business first organization. But like that wasn't the point of NWA and if it hadn't been for NWA, I don't think you would have been able to have business first organizations come out of hip hop in the way that you did. and certainly, you know, somebody like Dr. Dre, so. I think he gets extra points for that.and, you know, this is probably why, you know, he was again, I don't know, was he compiler? He was, you know, he had like a lot of kind of middling, a lot of lists, a couple of top 10 votes, you know? So, you know, I think again, everybody has their favorite and he's up there for a lot of folks.[00:44:27] Dan Runcie: Agreed. Number 16 is Drake. Should we poke the bear again?[00:44:33] Zack Greenburg: Yeah. Does Drake deserve to be at number 16 on this list?[00:44:37] Dan Runcie: This one surprised me, I was very surprised at the number of people that had him on the list, because you can make a case for the opposite, right? It's similar to the M and M thing, but almost to the extreme because M and M, yes, most commercially successful artists, XYZ. There's other artists that are less commercially successful at M and M that did more in that mogul definition but for Drake, it's even bigger of a Delta between these two, because here you have the most streamed artists of all time. So clearly commercially successful on its own, but people believe that OVO. Records or OVO sound itself actually could hurt an artist's career. And when you think about that, you think about some of the other multimedia things that he's done.I know he's been active as an investor and I know that people like Nicki Minaj and others have said, Oh, you know, Drake's a low key billionaire. He just doesn't want you to know it personally. Again, he may be, I mean, I'm not sure what he may not disclose, but it isn't always just about wealth. It's like, what opportunities were you able to create for each other?I do think it's good. That drink has been able to have different people that have been working alongside that. I think did get a bit of that drink stimulus package. And I think that's something that is quite debated, but I do think that. I feel like 21 Savage has definitely benefited from it. I mean, he was already commercially successful, but for him and Drake to do a joint album together was huge.I think it was the same way that it was huge for Future and the same way that the Migos going on tour with Drake in 2018 was huge for them and anything else that Drake continues to do from that perspective. So I think it is, you know, debatable, but I mean, people do definitely add some weight to the artists themselves.[00:46:18] Zack Greenburg: Yeah. And, you know, I think he should be around Eminem and whether they're both too high is an open question, but, you know, there's no doubting the commercial viability of what he's done. He did start more side businesses in Eminem, right? With OVO, whether it's the label, the festival, the clothing line, you know, he started a whiskey brand called Virginia black, which I tried once.It tasted okay. but I don't think it's selling, you know, I don't know if he's even still doing it. yeah, he is definitely involved as a startup investor, so maybe, you know, we'll see some exits and we start to think of him differently at that point. But, yeah, you know, again, I think it's, some voters just kind of overweighted, you know, musical prowess and pop culture influence.And if you're talking about that, I, I don't know anybody who's been as influential in the past 15 years. I mean, he's, you know, he's the most streamed artist of all time and that's got to count for something.[00:47:08] Dan Runcie: Right. I know his cannabis line failed, but there's a lot of people, even people that we'll get to in this list that have also had failed or struggling cannabisbusinesses. And, there's a lot that we could discuss there, but moving on number 15 is Sylvia Robinson, the originator.[00:47:26] Zack Greenburg: I think she deserves to be in the top five, personally. because if there were no Sylvia Robinson, yeah, I mean, I don't know that we have hip hop and, you know, it's, you know, for those who don't know the story, she was running sugar hill records with her husband, Joe sylvia was actually a child star singer herself.And, you know, they kind of had this like middling existence with their label. And then all of a sudden she's at this birthday party that she didn't even want to go to in Harlem and she sees Lovebug Starsky up on the microphone. A hip hop hippie to the hippie to the hip hip hop. You know, this is early, early seventies.She's never heard anything like it. All the kids, you know, hands in the air, like you just don't care. And the whole thing. she tries to get Lovebug to sign. There's some kind of dispute, like with his management, never happens. And so she just goes to the pizzeria in New Jersey, finds three kids, get him, gets them to talk real fast over this record is how she described it.and that's, you know, that's Rapper's Delight. That's the first hip hop song on Wax. That's the first hit. you know, that sort of spawns the whole genre. So, you could certainly argue, that, you know, she, borrowed or she hired, hired people who borrowed or whatever to do this, you know, like the idea that, that the first hip hop, track on wax was like, you know, originated in a pizza shop in New Jersey is really unfortunate cause it started at the Bronx, but like, you know, Sylvia came from Harlem.She, you know, she, she knew that world. Like, you know, she was part of the music business and, for better or worse, she took hip hop from being, you know, just basically like spoken word in person kind of thing to being, you know, national events. Would it have happened eventually?Yeah, I think so. But you know, who knows? I mean, it could have taken years longer and if it took years longer, you know, are we going to have the eighties with like run DMC and Def Jam and all that? Like, you know, I don't know. I mean, it, could have taken a lot longer to get off the ground if she hadn't done what she'd done.And, you know, I don't think we, I don't think we should really be dinging Sylvia Robinson for her Machiavellian tactics, given some of the other people on this list, you know, we're talking like Suge Knight and whoever else, you know, there's quite nefarious characters, you know, as we get higher up too in this list.So, you know, I don't think anything she did was. remotely as bad as, as like a lot of the dudes on this list. and, you know, so, you know, let's, I think we give her her due and yeah, I would definitely put her higher, but, you know, I think that's part of the deal when, when you have somebody who's that early on.You know, people are going to say, Oh, well, you know, the total gross is not quite as much as so and so or whatever the case may be. And she wasn't as famous as some of the artists. So, but you know, she's up there, I mean, ahead of some pretty big names, Drake, Eminem, what have you. So, I think she's getting some flowers here[00:50:00] Dan Runcie: The total gross knock is always one that makes me roll my eyes a bit because even if you take out the inflation aspect and the amount of money that's now in the industry, this is something that happens with pioneers in any type of industry. They are the ones that take the early hits to make it possible.She and her work is what made it possible for rappers to like, she and her workers have made it possible for the message and anything else that we then see after that. Yes. Sugar Hill. records did have its struggles, afterward, like many other labels. But what do you think about broader context of the eighties being a very tough time in general for black music?And there were only a certain number of decision makers in power that could make that happen. Yeah. You have to take that into account. And then additionally, she did stuff outside of even just this record label itself. As you mentioned, she was a recording artist herself. She also owned a nightclub. So there were other mogul type things that she had her hands.And so shout out to Sylvia, who knows where this would be without her.[00:51:00] Zack Greenburg: And probably worth caveating also that, you know, she did have some, Disputes over paying artists, as the years went on. So did like really a lot of people on this list is we could do like a whole separate, you know, like has some kind of dispute on how they pay artists. So, you know, that, that's probably worth noting too, but yeah, I mean, so does everybody else.And, you know, I think she deserves her flowers.[00:51:22] Dan Runcie: Number 14, Dame Dash,[00:51:25] Zack Greenburg: Another, another hot one coming in. I mean, I think a lot of people would disagree with this, but you know, some people would put them even higher. I mean, I think he might be the most polarizing name on this entire list. Like some people had on top five, you know, some people didn't list them at all.you know, I think it kind of comes in. We've had this conversation before. Would there be a Jay Z without a Damon Dash? you know, I mean, I think so, but it's that part of the, you know, we've talked about him in the context of startups and do you, you know, you need a different kind of founder for your like pre seed days than you do for your series B.you know, if you're like a mafia, family, you need like a wartime Don, you know, versus like a peacetime Don or whatever it's called. But like, you know, I think, Dame Dash is a wartime Don. He's a seed stage startup founder. and he does it fair as well. You know, when it comes to like the growth stage and the corporate boardrooms and stuff, but, you know, there's no denying his brilliance.you know, I think what he did, you know, certainly with rock aware, you know, expanding, the Roc-A-Fella empire beyond music. you know, maybe he realized that Jay was eventually going to leave and that they just, it wasn't going to be forever. And so he wanted to get his hands into, you know, as many different areas as he could, but, you know, there's like a lot of pro and a fair bit of con, but, you know, I think again, he's one who, you know, the pro outweighed the con, he didn't kill anybody, you know, so there's some people on here who did.yeah, the con is only like so much con in my opinion.[00:52:56] Dan Runcie: This conversation makes me think about, that backstage documentary that. Roc-A-Fella had put out after the hard knock life tour. And there's that infamous scene of Dave dash yelling and swearing at Kevin Lyles, who was at Def Jam at the time about the jackets and where what logo was supposed to be, or something other than that.And thinking about that in context now of like, you know, how we talked about Kevin Lyles and everything he was able to do from that run and still can continue to do. And with where Dame Dash is, is in his career, Dame Dash doing his thing. I think he very much lived through and practice and preach the ownership standards that worked for him, where he has Dame Dash Studios, Dame Dash this, and he's been able to.Create exactly what he wanted to. We heard him on that infamous 2015 breakfast club interview where he's yelling at DJ Envy and Charlemagne about, Oh, well, if your son wants a job, can you get him a job here at power 105 or whatever? No. Well, I can do him at where I'm at. And as comic as the delivery was, there is some aspect of mogul dumb.That is a bit of that King making aspect of, okay, can you create opportunities for others around you? What those opportunities look like definitely vary. And I think that is a factor. So I do highlight that is something that Dame is able to do. And Dave is also similar to he's similar to a polarizing basketball player in the sense that the media may look and be like, why do you all fuck with this guy?Like, what's going on? But if you ask the people that are actually in it, a lot of that would be like, oh, well, you got to look at Dame dash, Dame dash is the guy. And when I have. Interviewed. I'm sure you've interviewed and talked to many of young artists, too, or young label executives, too. A lot of them will reference Dave Dash.A lot of them will look at what he was able to do alongside Roc-A-Fella, almost in the same way that, you know, players will swear by Kyrie or swear by James Harden or some other type of athlete that may be polarizing in their own right. And the media is like, Oh, why do you all like this guy? And it's like, Oh, well, no, you don't understand.So there's something about. The people, and obviously I say that being self aware is us as people more so on the media side, as opposed to being in it themselves. But there's something about these young artists and moguls as well that have always looked up and respected what Dame has built. And even though it may not resonate, like, personally, I acknowledge that.[00:55:23] Zack Greenburg: I would say, if you're going to make a basketball reference, Maybe not personality, but like basketball style, I'd almost liken him to Carmelo Anthony, you know, like he's an isolationist. He's a scorer, like, you know, he may not be very good at distributing the basketball, but like, you know, you throw him the ball in the corner and he's going to find a way to get it in.And, You know, like a lot of people wouldn't think that he belongs in the Hall of Fame at all, you know, but some people would, be insistent on it. So, you know, yeah, I think that sort of like singular focus, you know, you could definitely give him credit for that,[00:55:55] Dan Runcie: Agreed. Number 13, we are Cohen.[00:55:58] Zack Greenburg: man, another like bulldozer of a human being, but, you know, certainly somebody who, you know, maybe he has also got the finger roll, you know, like he, he can have a light touch when needed. you know, I think just like in terms of longevity, we talk about longevity with some of the names on this list, you know, Leroy was there in the very beginning of hip hop, you know, managing rappers, and it gives the road manager run DMC, taking the leader
Dan talks about the 24/7 cycle surrounding European league soccer and new music from Zaytoven.
Vernon Davis has been busy since retiring from the NFL. He is now rapping and recently released his debut album 'Showtime.' Vern stopped by Stay Busy to talk about how he decided to rap, linking with Tone P and Zaytoven, how he operates in the studio, a funny story about "Whats Good Brodie," his favorite moments from his NFL career, acting alongside Morgan Freeman, and much more. Be sure to follow Vernon on social media at @vernondavis85 Follow us on social media at @staybusypod and engage with our content here - https://linktr.ee/staybusypod. Subscribe to our Patreon at www.patreon.com/staybusypod. Subscribe and rate us on all platforms! Tell a friend! Armon Sadler - @armonsadler --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/staybusypod/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/staybusypod/support
Today's episode covers the album 'Make America Psycho Again' by the band Fall Out Boy. This 2015 release see our favorite rock band from Chicago collaborate with a number of hip-hop artists and producers such as: Juicy J, Black Thought, OG Maco, Migos, Joey Bada$$, Azealia Banks, Big K.R.I.T, Uzi, Zaytoven, Tony Fadd, and others. We hope you enjoy the wild tangents, fart jokes, and the most comprehensive information and commentary on Fall Out Boy on any podcast platform. Mic The Snare YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVN6JjGx0z8 Vanilla Ice Goes Crazy YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2ZkTvLdH2o Yung Lean - 'Unknown Death 2002': https://open.spotify.com/album/1T7ZoAn7Iy3uPArR6zzs4f?si=N_og6SCTSO-CaBryuwDmYQ UGK - 'Int'l Player's Anthem': https://open.spotify.com/track/4ns1XFP3W5JPyzvnAjMdHD?si=a43f7ba709674a81 Follow us on social media! Twitter.com/grandtheftpodum Instagram.com/dorktreepod https://ko-fi.com/dorktreepod
ABOUT KOUNTRY WAYNE AND HELP IS ON THE WAY Forward by Cedric the EntertainerBefore he was one of Variety's "10 Comics to Watch" and a comedy sensation followed by millions, Kountry Wayne found few legit options for a poor Black man in a small-minded Georgia town. For many years he resorted to running his own game, but thankfully friends and family (and one patient probation officer) convinced him that he had talent beyond hustling. Once he began posting short sketches based on his on-the-nose Southern Black truths, wildly funny observations, and inspirational guidance, he became an almost overnight hit. Now a proud father of ten, Kountry Wayne is on a mission to give back. By sharing his seemingly impossible story, he hopes to help others see that no matter where you started from or how stuck you feel right now, the possibilities for living a rich, full life are limitless. Trust that the universe has got you! His Kountry Lessons include: Sometimes All You Have Is Your Pride: Often the only person who can push you forward is you.* Live Your Truth: Don't hide from where you came from, celebrate it-this is what makes you an original.* Don't Get Mad, Get Money: Ignore the people who want to tear you down and provide for the ones you love.* Stay Up: Even when the worst thing happens, you have to find the strength to keep going.Whether you are simply looking for a laugh to boost your spirit or some real guidance to help you in life, love, or money, Kountry Wayne has got you covered.ABOUT KOUNTRY WAYNESince his first Facebook post went viral in 2014, Kountry Wayne's career continues to climb, while garnering a loyal fan base. His widely popular digital sketches draw in millions of viewers daily across Facebook, TikTok, Instagram and YouTube channel, featuring original characters written by Wayne and cameos from notable celebrities including Ludacris, Mike Epps, Charlamagne tha God and Lamar Odom, to name a few.Wayne's career highlights over the past few years include being named one of Variety's "10 Comics to Watch" in 2021, starring in the BET original Christmas rom-com "Holiday Heartbreak" (2021), featured on MTV's "Wild 'N Out" with Nick Cannon, and releasing his debut EP, "Drip & Zay," with GRAMMY® Award-winning producer, Zaytoven. Wayne, along with Kym Whitley, currently co-hosts "I Love Us," a comedy clip show on BET+ that premiered this past summer. Wayne recently starred in the comedy feature film, "Strange Love," available on Amazon Prime. Up next, he will be appearing in the upcoming Peacock original film "Praise This," produced by Will Packer, directed by Tina Gordon and starring Chloe Bailey, Quavo, Mack Wilds, Druski and more. Additionally, Wayne is set to film his first one-hour comedy special this coming May in Washington D.C for Netflix. Wayne has established himself as one of the hottest touring comedians in the country, having built a strong fan base while performing in theaters, comedy clubs and arenas across the nation. Wayne's current tour "Help Is On The Way" is produced by Live Nation, and marks his return to the stage following his "Straight Out The Mud" spring 2022 tour, where the charismatic comic performed to sold-out crowds in theaters across the U.S., including the historic Palace Theatre in Los Angeles as part of the Netflix is a Joke Festival.For more information, visit www.KountryWayne.comand follow @Kountrywayne on Instagram, @KingKountryWayne on Facebook, and @kountry_wayne on Twitter.
Linktree: https://linktr.ee/AnalyticSremm 4 Life is here. Rae Sremmurd have dropped off their fourth album via EarDrummers and Interscope. The project boasts production from Mike Will Made-It, Zaytoven, Murda on the Beat, Sonny Digital, and features from Young Thug on “Royal Flush” and Future on “Activate.” In the months leading up to the release, Swae Lee and Slim Jxmmi shares the songs “Denial,” “Sucka or Sum,” and “Tanisha (Pump That),” with the latter featuring production by Mike Will Made-It and a writing credit for Pharrell. We haven't seen a project from the pair since 2018 when they unleashed SR3MM, which included three discs: one from the duo, and two solo projects from each brother. Prior to that, Rae Sremmurd put out SremmLife2 in 2016 and their debut SremmLife in 2015. source: Rae Sremmurd Return With 'Sremm 4 Life' Album (yahoo.com)Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/analytic-dreamz-notorious-mass-effect/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Interview by Haze https://www.instagram.com/mike_tall We recently sat down with Fat Money for an exclusive “Off The Porch” interview! During our conversation he talked about coming from Harvey IL, the violence in Chicago, how his neighborhood has changed since he was younger, moving to Atlanta, stealing bikes when he was younger, jumping off the porch, going to jail a lot of times, turning his life around 4 years ago, his musical influences, meeting Bump J & recording their song “Yes Or No”, the song blowing up, explains why he change his name from Ty Money to Fat Money, reveals his creative process, T.I. flying him out to Atlanta, his friendship with Waka Flocka, working with Nick Cannon for the ‘Chiraq' movie, working with Kanye West on ‘Donda 2', recently working with Dr. Dre, working on a mega yacht, his close relationship with Pusha T, his new album ‘Money Got Wings' with Cardo, working not he album for over 3 years, explains the artwork, explains the vision for the 2 music videos he has released from the album, explains the line “why did they take Kobe they could of took Chris Paul, why did they take JuiceWrld they could of took Lil Tecca”, the music scene in Chicago right now, the different styles of rap coming out the city right now, partnering with EMPIRE upcoming project with Zaytoven, and much more!
Intro: Tyus- only if you let me Outro: Doechii- What it is *we do not own the rights to this music Question: Favorite Liquor and Why? News Flash (drops from pop artists): Blxst- just for clarity 2-ep; Jim Jones & hitmaka- back in my prime; August alsina- Myself; Conway the machine- Pain provided profit; Wanmor- Wanmor; Musiq soulchild- Victims & Villains; Wake up mfers: Zaytoven- street credentials; Garren- spiritual warfare; Tafia- the big not the lil one; Action pack- I'm action, Ivan Ave- All season gear; Dende- ‘95 Civic; Sebastian Mikael- Phileo Deluxe; Adi Oasis- Lotus Glow; G Perico- Hot shot: Gangsta Grillz New artist of the week (Lemme put you on)Kweisi: Adi Oasis- Naked Chef: Ben L'Oncle Soul - Next To You Outstanding song (weekly) (New and Popular artist)Young Artists Kwe: Tony Shhnow- don't know; Tyus- Only if U Let Me Chef: Dende - Part-Lover (10 seconds), TheARTI$t - Sober Popular ArtistsChef: Jim Jones - Gunshot, Zaytoven, Shy Glizzy - What Ya Feelin Like Kweisi: Jim Jones-YKTV; Musiq soulchild- I remember you my ex
DJ for Zaytoven. Rude Girl Radio. Teaching people to be seen and so much more. Interview Recorded: Nov 29, 2022 – Magic City - 241 Forsyth St SW, Atlanta, GA 30303 Who introduced us – Lola Kash Intro and Outro Music– Brian Revels. Who should I have next on The Atlanta Podcast – Uncle Dibbz Listen to this episode on your favorite app or on this website.
This refreshing married couple has been married for close to fifteen years. On this episode, we have grammy award, multi-platinum producer Zaytoven and his lovely wife, a professional hair stylist Stephanie Dotson, but you can call them The Tovens! It usually seems impossible to find and maintain love while succeeding in the entertainment industry. Stephanie and Zaytoven share with us how they did the impossible. They first met at The Hair School and became best friends turned lovers. Be prepared to laugh, learn, and love because this episode is all that, plus more. Watch until the end to learn these two "secrets" to maintaining a successful marriage! Love what you see and would like to see more? Like, subscribe, share, and comment. The support means so much. Do you have a lovely marriage story that inspires or experiences a mirage marriage and would like to help someone avoid your situation? Please email us directly at marriageormirage@gmail.comZaytoven: https://www.instagram.com/zaytovenbeatz/?hl=enStephanie: https://www.instagram.com/stepbfly/?hl=enCharmaine: https://www.instagram.com/charmainebey/?hl=enNeek: https://www.instagram.com/neekbey/?hl=enSupport the showFollow @marriageonmiragepodcast on Instagram. For the video, please go to our YouTube Channel: The Bey's TV. Don't forget to like, comment, share, and most importantly, subscribe!
Kasim interviews Superstar Producer Zaytoven! the two discuss "Versace" , If Saweetie and him are related, & What is his Favorite Beats He Ever made for Future, OJ da Juiceman, Migos and Gucci Mane.
A little while ago, Complex named 21 Savage the best rapper of 2022, and as per usual, I had some thoughts. With that, there's a few other things to discuss this week, such as Yachty's album, Zaytoven selling his catalog, and Run-DMC officially breaking up. This podcast is a little different than others, as it was done on Twitch. There's a good chance this will be the format going forward, so let me know what you think! Also be sure to check out the stream at https://www.twitch.tv/barforbarpodcast where there's plenty of fun to be had during and after recording! 00:00 Intro 00:31 21 Savage rapper of the year 10:36 Music announcements 13:59 Lil Yachty - "Let's Start Here." 18:45 Zaytoven sells his catalog 24:36 Run-DMC final show at MSG Links from the video: https://www.complex.com/music/21-savage-best-rapper-of-2022-interview https://thesource.com/2023/01/27/zaytoven-sells-music-catalog-featuring-songs-from-migos-21-savage-and-lil-wayne/ https://rockthebells.com/articles/dmc-interview-run-dmc-is-over/
Quake and Veto discuss Zaytoven selling his music catalog, The Game's sexual assault case taking a new turn, Kanye West being investigated after throwing a fans phone, Mase being honored with his own day in Harlem, Jay-Z settling lawsuit with photographer, Chris Brown being hit with $4 Million tax lawsuit, Future allegedly being upset about Drake & 21 Savage's collab album, New Music, Album Sales and much more. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/diversementalitypodcast/support
Young Dro makes his return to The Progress Report Podcast to speak on his new single with Zaytoven tilted “Run Out of Time” inspired by the recent murders of rappers, standing up against senseless gun violence, gentrification in Atlanta, finding his voice in the choir, the importance of life insurance and will's, membership program, and repairing his relationships with his kids.
Young Dro comes and kicks it with Big Homie kodaq to discuss his new collaborative with Zaytoven, his status as a rap legend, and whether or not Glorilla was wrong for paying her assistant $550 a week!
Interview by Haze https://www.instagram.com/mike_tall Recently we sat down with platinum producer Trauma Tone for an exclusive “Off The Porch” interview! During our conversation he talked about being from Charlottesville, VA, explains how he got into making beats in 2002 before YouTube existed, getting his producer tag back in 2011, moving to Atlanta after getting placement for Yo Gotti's single, quitting his job when he found out about the placement, explains how he locked in with Money Man, their chemistry, “Tip Off” being played on ESPN, their new single “LLC”, making beats everyday, collabing with Zaytoven, reveals when he knew he needed management, producing for Shy Glizzy, explains the creative process when working with Curren$y, shares how he feels when artists hold onto records, learning he had a placement on NBA Youngboy's album the same day he learned he had a brain aneurysm & a stroke, reveals some artists he has been working with lately, working with $lugga who was killed a couple years ago, sacrifices he had to make to be successful, goals for 2022, signing producers, advice for upcoming producers, and much more!
Interview by Haze https://www.instagram.com/mike_tall We recently got the chance to speak with well known Director Cricket for an exclusive “Off The Porch” interview! During our conversation he discussed growing up on Detroit's East 7 Mile, starting ff a beat maker, working with J Dilla, moving to Atlanta, being in Atlanta during the highlight of the music industry, explains how he got into filming, meeting Bankroll Fresh through Parlae from Dem Franchise Boyz, Parlae talking him into making a movie, Bankroll Fresh previewing his first single for him, making the “Mind, Body, and Soul” visual after the passing of Bankroll Fresh, featuring Fresh's son in the video, not wanting to glorify the streets with his music videos, reveals how he accidently leaked Gucci Mane's “Bussin Juggs” music video, Gucci Mane calling him and saying he owed him 10 videos for the mishap, Gucci Inviting him to the studio with Zaytoven, Gucci teaching him his worth with his videography career, Gucci buying him his first Red Camera, catching Peewee before he got he started rapping, filming the “Sneaking N Geekin” video, shooting Gucci's “Truth” video, his dynamic with Young Mazi, was chosen to film Young Thugs “Stoner” visual but didn't fall through, dealing with different industry politics, advice for young creatives, shooting NBA Youngboy's “Outside Today” video, Youngboy bring easy to work with, lists some do's and dont's for directors, working on new films, his project “Dirty Game” and “Blue Devils” and much more!
1K Phew has worked with legendary Atlanta producer Zaytoven many times. He explains how they met and goes into detail about their working relationship. Full interview - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMJik9NsKxY&t=629s&ab_channel=Rapzilla.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/rapzilla/support
We interrupt your local broadcast with this one. On this episode we were privileged to be apart of Zaytovens boot camp. We interviewed some of the rising stars in the industry that came to kick game with your boy Swish! These are a few musicians that I had a chance to do quick 5 min interviews with while we were there. Enjoy! YouTube: ThaBeatBasement.com @tha.beatbasement
1K Phew is about to drop what is technically his debut album 'As I Am'. He talks about the tracks, cover, release, and tour. He also goes into the collabs with Lecrae, Zaytoven, and WHATUPRG. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/rapzilla/support