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The hip-hop landscape is shifting beneath Drake's feet. What happens when one of music's biggest commercial stars finds himself increasingly at odds with the culture that helped elevate him? This episode of Indie Artist Music Hustle with Blonde Intelligence pulls no punches as we dissect the fascinating tensions between Drake and the hip-hop community.At the heart of this cultural conversation lies authenticity—that precious currency in hip-hop circles. Drake's tendency to "cosplay" different identities, switching accents and styles depending on who he's around, has many questioning his artistic core. We explore how this chameleon-like quality, while showcasing versatility, raises legitimate concerns about genuineness in a genre built on keeping it real.The musical boundaries Drake crosses—blending pop, R&B and hip-hop—have broadened his appeal but alienated purists. As one critic memorably described it, Drake creates "target music"—something pleasant to shop to rather than art addressing real struggle. This perception stands in stark contrast to artists like Kendrick Lamar, who many believe has "annihilated Drake in every form of hip-hop." We examine how this competition plays out in an ecosystem where battles have historically operated without rules, and whether Drake's more emotional approach contradicts hip-hop's combative traditions.Beyond the music itself, we tackle the thorny questions of cultural appropriation and collaboration. Does Drake elevate the artists he works with, or simply absorb their styles before moving on? Has he benefited from Black culture without properly acknowledging its origins? From Megan Thee Stallion to Rick Ross, we highlight the growing chorus of voices challenging Drake's place in the culture.Ready for a thought-provoking deep dive into hip-hop's evolving landscape? Subscribe to Indie Artist Music Hustle with Blonde Intelligence on your favorite podcasting platform and join the conversation about authenticity, cultural ownership, and what it truly means to contribute to hip-hop culture.Support the show

Kendrick Lamar isn't just calling out Drake—he's dissecting the very foundation of his fame. Does Drake's quest for validation reveal a more fragile empire than we think? Join Ms. Roni on this week's Indie Artist Music Hustle with Blonde Intelligence as we navigate Kendrick's lyrical deep dive into Drake's emotional landscape. From the "crown built on sand" metaphor to the transactional nature of friendships in the spotlight, Kendrick paints a vivid picture of what can happen when ambition collides with introspection. We uncover how Kendrick's astute observations challenge the authenticity of Drake's artistry, questioning whether his style is more cosplay than cultural appreciation.As the episode unfolds, hear Kendrick's sharp critique of Drake's competitive tendencies and the moral dilemmas that come with them. Through Kendrick's thought-provoking predictions, we explore the dangers of fame indulgence, painted as a race that can't be won. This narrative isn't just about dissecting one artist's journey; it's a broader commentary on the pitfalls of celebrity culture. Ms. Ronnie and Kendrick reveal the duality of Drake's public bravado versus his private insecurities, offering listeners a multilayered view of identity struggles in the music industry. Don't miss this incisive exploration of fame, ambition, and the poignant reality behind the curtain.Support the show

On this episode Mike and Marcus start with recapping Thanksgiving. Next is Black Friday officially over? Drake files two lawsuits vs UMG. The first for accusing UMG for inflating streams for Not Like Us by Kendrick Lamar. The 2nd for defamation for being called a Pedophile on said record. Does Drake have a case? Also what kind of deal is Drake seeking from UMG? J Cole drops classic mixtape Friday Night lights. Does Cole have one of the best mixtape discographies in rap? Dr. J says Kobe Bryant number shouldnt be retired league wide. College Football rivalry weekend ended with game ending fights.

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On this episode Mike is joined by friend of show Marcus first they speak on how everything seems to be trending towards minimalism. Marcus next gets off his gripes with the weed prices in Charlotte. The aftermath of Drake vs Kendrick. Is there more to come? Does Drake have a sound? What is the Toronto sound? New music from Ghostface, Johnny cinco and more. Freddie Gibbs caught up again in baby mama drama does it takeaway from his music? Game diss track to Rick Ross. NBA playoffs/ Was Shai robbed of MVP?

Sorry for missing last week but we back! Welcome back to the show. With the war going on outside we break down our reactions to the ongoing Kendrick Lamar and Drake rap beef. Six Flags Great Adventures isn't what is once was (1:34) Kid Cudi breaks his foot at Coachella (14:46) The Genius (16:41) There's a War going on outside no man is safe from (23:25) Reaction to Kendrick's "6:16 in LA" and "Euphoria" responses to Drake (28:22) Family Matters by Drake is a response to Kendricks "Meet The Grahams" (46:06) There's no more strategy for Kendrick after "Not Like Us" (1:06:14) 50 Cent doesn't make mistakes with his judgement (1:11:14) Is Jay-Z Really the final boss for Drake? Is That the Red Button (1:15:29) Does Drake have a new mixtape on the way hosted by Whoo Kid (1:19:46) NBA playoffs (1:39:21) & more --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/crack-in-the-80s/message

Coming off a career high in goals and points, Drake Batherson, joins the boys. Lots to discuss, including his season and what lies ahead for the soon to be 26 year old.Does Drake have any fears? Batherson promises to have the "old dogs barking for this episode.”

  Welcome back to the pod! On this episode, I'm joined by return guests @jayglavany and @gverdoty to discuss Congo's recent win, TikTok versus Universal, Nicki Minaj vs Meg beef, Steff London vs Jayda Kingdom, Drake's alleged lipo, Jacquees vs Trey Songz and soo much more. The guys also discuss Griselda Blanco Netflix, Don Toliver's new album and end it off with the classic Silly Sh*t segment.   Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro 1:30 - Les Leopards beat Guinee in AFCON2024 8:30 - Naomi Sharon is very talented 11:04 - Naomi should be from Toronto 12:26 - TikTok vs Universal Music Group 14:22 - What does this mean for consumers 19:25 - Nicki Minaj vs Meg Thee Stallion beef breakdown 21:07 - Is this a misogynistic take 28:47 - Does Drake have lipo? 32:45 - The most pointless beef of 2024: Eminem vs. Benzino 36:01 - Ned's declassified school survival guide 38:35 - Ye got the yeeks 41:30 - Can men get surgery done? 44:30 - BBL vs natural 48:08 - Jacquees vs trey Songz fought 59:45 - Griselda Blanco Netflix series 1:04:20 - Dave series 1:07:55 - Don Toliver - Bandit 1:09:42 - Travis Scott - UTOPIA 1:14:30 - Which breed of dog can say n*gga 1:18:28 - Would you rather french your dog or your grandparent 1:20:15 - Get your meat tattooed or your eyelid pierced   Connect with Jay on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jayglavany/ Connect with Guilburt on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gverdoty/ Connect with Duke on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/duuke.m/ Connect with London on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/londonrich/   ROTMPodcast@gmail.com Or via Instagram DM at: https://instagram.com/rotmpod Be sure to give us a thumbs up on YouTube and SUBSCRIBE if you haven't already, it helps the channel grow! Rate us on iTunes and check us out on Spotify, Amazon Music and VURBL as well! Check out the video of the full episodes available on the ROTM Podcast YouTube channel! Subscribe, leave a comment and like! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoYajGTkjxOr98SYdr1Uzzg?view_as=subscriber

This week, we dip our Grapes into brainstorming the loading screen music for restaurant based video games! Did your mom make the Cheddar's soundtrack? Does the Golden Corral Bathroom Wizard have a musical quest in store for us? Does Drake understand what he is watching at BDubs? How many mystery rooms does Drake's really have? Find out with us on the Grapevine! Want the uncensored "Grapes After Dark" cut? Then join us on Patreon!https://www.patreon.com/NerdGrapevine?utm_campaign=creatorshare_creatorShoutout to Josh Rankin for joining our beloved Patreon members:The OGGG, a.k.a. DJ Strong Hands, a.k.a. Seven!Tab!Matthew!Gene!The Grapevine Cowboy, Kevin Busby!John Lamb!BRADLEY!Because of these brave few, Austin has now experienced THE SMOOTHENING!--------------------------------------------------We have merch now?! Come get some!https://redbubble.com/shop/?query=nerd%20grapevine&ref=search_boxhttps://best-friends-tiny-inc.creator-spring.com/We play games on YouTube! Check out Grape Flavored Gaming on our channel at:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRaJm1AyH0NnQR2J1GcSdtgCome join the Backyard Bonanza in our Discord:https://discord.gg/QND8pNasHA--------------------------------------------------Theme Music:Jeremy Blake - Powerup! Nerd stuff and farts this week:restaurants, music, themes, Support the showAnd remember, when life gives you grapes...

On this episode! The Fellas do a deep deep-dive into Drakes newest album For All The Dogs. From track 1 to 23 we go into each song picking apart the musicality behind the album leaving us to question, where does Drake go from here? Does Drake's music sound fatigued? How long does he take to step away from music? Will he surpass Michael Jackson for most #1 songs ever? And simply, what does the album title mean to us; For all the dogs? Be sure to follow us on Instagram @2HipHopSenseis.a.casual and be sure to subscribe to our new YouTube page! We Love any and all feedback! If you REALLY loyal, be sure to tell a friend to tell a friend to listen to the Podcast.

Welcome back to another episode of Lucky View Podcast. This week the guys deep dive into the new Drake album "For All The Dogs".Has Drake finally reached the end of his run ? Does Drake suffer from fatigue ? Did Drake deliver the old Drake ? The guys give their opinion and what they feel could be next for Drake. Hammas attacks Israel, Palestine and Israel go to war. Celebrities show support for Israel, are they misinformed ? What is your take ? Subscribe to our Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/luckyviewpodcast Follow us on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/luckyviewpodcast Twitter https://www.twitter.com/luckyviewpod Era https://www.instagram.com/era_justbelieve Papijohnson https://www.instagram.com/papijohnson Carbs https://www.instagram.comstevenc___ Mahdi https://www.instagram.com/redpillsupply Just Believe Entertainment https://www.instagram.com/justbelieveent

Photo: https://flic.kr/p/JMyZjJUsage: Wikipedia CC BY 2.5Music Intro by: Gail NoblesBeginning Piano: Gail NoblesOther music created using Groovepad. Available on the App Store, https://apps.apple.com/app/id1454398991Vocals: Gail NoblesDrake is today's topic. A Canadian rapper, singer, and songwriter. Hello! I'm Gail Nobles, and you're listening to the Cat Bear. Today I'm going to talk about Drake. An influential figure and contemporary popular music, Drake has been credited for popularizing singing and R&B sensibilities in hip-hop.Drake's first three albums, Thank Me Later (2010), Take Care (2011) and Nothing Was the Same (2013), were all critical successes and propelled him to the forefront of hip hop. His fourth album, Views (2016), saw exploration of dancehall and stood atop the Billboard 200 for 13 non-consecutive weeks, making it the first album by a male artist to do so in over a decade, and featured the international hit singles "Hotline Bling" and "One Dance", which has been credited with popularizing Afrobeats worldwide. In 2018, Drake released the double album Scorpion, which contained the Billboard Hot 100 number-one singles "God's Plan", "Nice for What", and "In My Feelings". Drake's widely anticipated sixth album, Certified Lover Boy (2021), achieved nine top 10 hits on the Hot 100.Does Drake have a new album for 2023? It has been said according to the news that Drake's next album has a release date. Drake took to Instagram late Wednesday, September 6 to reveal that For All The Dogs will arrive on September 22. So look out for Drake's new album titled For All The Dogs.

August 11, 2023 is the 50th anniversary of hip-hop. What started out mostly as a spoken word artform has become a worldwide juggernaut. Thanks to the moguls who pushed the genre forward, hip-hop went from 0 to 100.In this episode, we rank the 50 greatest moguls in hip-hop's history. We reached out to industry experts — from artists to execs to media personalities — to help us compile the list. Friend of the pod, Zack O'Malley Greenburg, joins me to count them down from No. 50 to No. 10:39 How do we define “mogul”7:06 Honorable mentions09:10 The “Don't overlook their influence” group (ranks 50-41)16:19 The “Playing chess not checkers” group (ranks 40-31)23:38 The “Our impact runs deep” group (ranks 30-21)33:47 No. 2035:37 No. 1937:56 No. 1841:32 No. 1744:27 No. 1647:21 No. 1551:22 No. 14 55:55 No. 1359:09 No. 121:00:46 No. 111:02:16 No. 101:04:39 No. 91:06:44 No. 81:10:20 No. 71:14:06 No. 61:15:37 No. 51:17:11 No. 41:20:53 No. 31:29:06 No. 21:30:34 No. 11:33:22 Who got snubbed?1:35:42 What trends stick out from the list?1:41:21 Who would you pick to run your empire?Listen: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | SoundCloud | Stitcher | Overcast | Amazon | Google Podcasts | Pocket Casts | RSSHost: Dan Runcie, @RuncieDan, trapital.coGuests: Zack O'Malley Greenburg, @zogblogThis episode is sponsored by DICE. Learn more about why artists, venues, and promoters love to partner with DICE for their ticketing needs. Visit dice.fmEnjoy this podcast? Rate and review the podcast here! ratethispodcast.com/trapitalTrapital is home for the business of music, media and culture. Learn more by reading Trapital's free memo.TRANSCRIPT[00:00:00] Zack Greenburg: ownership. Was just such an important thing for Nipsey. Such an important thing for Berner. And, you know, interviewing the two of them, I would say, their mindset around ownership was the closest I've ever seen to Jay Z.[00:00:13] Dan Runcie Intro Audio: Hey, welcome to the Trapital Podcast. I'm your host and the founder of Trapital, Dan Runcie. This podcast is your place to gain insights from the executives in music, media, entertainment, and more who are taking hip hop culture to the next level.[00:00:39] Dan Runcie Guest Intro: This episode is a celebration to hip hop's 50th anniversary. This is a countdown on the 50 greatest moguls ever in hip hop. I'm joined by Zack O'Malley Greenburg, friend of the pod, and we both reached out to. A bunch of label heads, executives, people in hip hop that would know best. And we put it together in an aggregate list.And we're here to break down that list today. We talk about what does it mean to be a mogul? What are some of the considerations we made when we were looking into this list ourselves, how the results looked, what surprised us? What were the snubs? What were the misses? And what can we learn from this overall?And if Zack and I were putting together our dream teams, what would that look like? This is a lot of fun. Really happy with how it turned out. So let's dive in.[00:01:25] Dan Runcie: All right, hip hop's 50th anniversary is right around the corner and we decided to celebrate it in the only way that we know best countdown hip hop's greatest moguls and I'm joined by Zack O'malley Greenburg, who reached out to me about this. I was really excited about it and we spent some time over the past couple of weeks, reaching out to people we know, making sure that we have the best insights looking through and making sure that we had all of the. Breakdowns to share. So Zack, I'm ready for this. How are you feeling?[00:01:55] Zack Greenburg: I am stoked. Yeah, I mean, you know, 50th anniversary of hip hop. We reached out to 50 different judges. amongst, you know, the sort of, the most respected folks from, you know, label heads to artists to entrepreneurs, you know, I think we've got half of them, roughly half of them replied since in their votes, we're going to keep their individual votes anonymous, but, you know, Dan could tell you about some of the judges.Yeah, and it was just really fun to kind of mix it up, you know, I think the thing about this list, a lot of these characters are just kind of an apples to oranges comparison as you'll see once we dive into it, but that's the beauty of it, right? I mean, how do you, you know, compare like a pioneering executive to like a modern day artist mogul? And we really kind of left it in the hands of the judges. And we just said, basically the only guidance was, this is a business focused list, but you know, you can rank artists, executives, people who are both. It just, whatever your definition of mogul is, that's how, you know, that's how you should rank them. And people submitted lists and obviously the higher they rank somebody, the more points we gave them and, you know, the lower they got, but, you know, so there's some people on there who are like accumulators. They ended up on everybody's list, but not so high, but, you know, as a result, they ended up on the top 50.And then there are some who were just like, not ranked at all by most people, but had a couple of really high ranks so that they made the list. So I think it's a pretty cool mix.[00:03:10] Dan Runcie: Right? It's kind of like how we look at artists. There's some artists that have just been consistent, steady through and through each year. You'll always get some reliable output from them, but then there are other artists too. They were the best for a certain amount of time. Maybe they cooled off for a bit.Maybe they came back and that's kind of the way music is too. One of the things that. I was asked whenever I was reaching out to people about this was the same thing that you posed earlier. People wanted to know, how are we defining mogul and we left it up to their interpretation. It is a term that means different things to different people, but maybe for the sake of this conversation, let's kick it off here.Zack, how do you define mogul? And how did you define it when creating your list?[00:03:51] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, I mean, to me a hip hop mogul, more general is just, you know, somebody who not only is a business person, but has some degree of ownership, in whatever it is that they're doing. that's not the only definition of it for me, but like, you know, when I was putting together my rankings, I thought, you know, who are the owners?the same time, you know, people who are executives who are in a decision making place. you know, that counts for something. And I think also, you know, if you're an artist, and you simply have some control over your own work, you maintain your copyrights, whatever, like that counts as being a mogul. So, you know, specifically when it comes to hip hop, you know, I'd say people who are, you know, definitely getting in charge of your own work, but also creating new lines of business, you know, influencing the culture. but you know, a way that they've got some skin in the game from a business perspective, you know, that, kind of thing.That's kind of how I looked at it. but you could see from the votes that, you know, everybody had a slightly different definition too.[00:04:47] Dan Runcie: Yeah, there was definitely a lot of correlation with the artists who tend to be the ones that are the wealthiest. They end up at the highest rankings in on some of those lists, too, but it wasn't exactly correlated because there's a difference. And these are some of the things I kept in mind, too, with the mogul definition, thinking specifically aboutinfluence and impact, were you having, or did you create opportunities for others around you? Were you able to be a bit of a kingmaker or queenmaker in your respective right? Was there a impact in terms of other generations that either looked and modeled how they're doing what they're doing and looking at you as some form of inspiration with that?So there's the indirect impact and influence, but also the, Indirect piece of it too. So there's the money piece as well, but then what do you do with that money? And then that's how I had went about it. And similarly, everyone had their own unique spin to it.[00:05:42] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, for sure. And, you know, and I think the definition changed over time, of what a mogul really is, but when I was putting my rankings together, I think the idea of starting something new, you know, that's also paramount, amongst all the criteria as well.[00:05:55] Dan Runcie: Right? So, of course, Zack and I had our list, but we reached out to a number of people and several other label heads, executives, and people that are in the game.So thank you all to your contributions. We couldn't have done this without you. And if anything, it helped add a variety beyond just you and I, getting and putting our list out there. It added a more full scope and like anything. Oh, this is how you look at it. Interesting and being able to pull unique insights there.[00:06:21] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, for sure. you know, one thing I think we probably ought to point out, on the list, you know, the list is, heavily male. but it's about only 20% women on the list. you know, we did everything we could obviously to make it more equitable, but, you know, the votes are the votes.And, you know, I think there is a bit of a reflection of sort of the state of affairs over the past half century, you know, unfortunately, like many parts of music business, hip hop has been, you know, heavily overindexing for males. So, you know, here's hoping that when 50 years to do a hundred years of hip hop, you know, we'll have even things out a bit or completely, let's say maybe even, you know, made up for lost time, but I think some of the spots on the list, you know, the rankings do kind of reflect an industry reality that we've seen, unfortunately for 50 years.[00:07:06] Dan Runcie: Right? And hopefully this gets better. We do feel and you'll see when we talk about some of the people here, glad about some of the names that got mentioned. Of course, there's always room to be able to have more and hopefully for hip hop's 100th anniversary. If when and people are breaking that down, there's hopefully even more representation there.So, with that, I think it's probably good for us to get started right before the list, but talk about some of the honorable mentions. So, there were people that didn't quite make the cut of 50, but we still wanted to highlight them and the work that they. Did here. So a few of those names here to give a shout out to.So we have Cindy Campbell, Jermaine Dupree, Audrey Harrell, Jay Cole, Damon John. What comes or what do you think about when you hear those names?[00:07:55] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, you know, I mean, Cindy Campbell, I think in many ways you could look at her as the first promoter in hip hop history, right? I mean, you know, we're talking about 50 years of hip hop. That's 50 years from that first party that. She and DJ Kool Herc through, you know, in the rec room on Cedric Avenue.And, I think the idea was that they were going to raise a little bit of cash so she could go get herself a new back to school wardrobe. Now, if that's not, you know, entrepreneurship and hip hop, you know, from the very beginning, I don't know what it is. And so I think Cindy deserves a ton of credit, for being there at the very beginning, you know, but I think on the honorable mentions to a lot of the folks that are on here, you know, or maybe like a little bit, you know, not exactly falling on the same radar, you know, for the list. So like, you know, Damon John, obviously he did with, you know, creating FUBU and, you know, everything he's done as an entrepreneur, it's incredible, but it, I think it's sort of like more of a national brand that is, you know, apart from hip hop and so is his personality, right? Like you see him on shark tank or, you know, whatever, like he sort of moved past, I wouldn't necessarily categorize him, as just hip hop, although he's had a tremendous impact on hip hop.So I think probably that's why, he wasn't on more lists. It's not to sort of ding him his impact, which is considerable.[00:09:10] Dan Runcie: Right, and I do think that of course, music is one element of hip hop. You do have fashion, you do have others. So music definitely got weighted heavily in this list, but Dave and John and his influence in fashion, and there's other people in fashion and we'll get into them in this list too, but we can't overlook everything he did there and some of the more unique and clever marketing tactics that came from food booth that other people did who will mention in this list as well. 1 person that I do want to highlight here from that list 2 people. So, Jermaine Dupri want to give him a shout out as well. Just everything he was able to do with.So, so Def records. He was part of that movement in the 90s, where you saw LaFace and then all these other groups in the South be able to come up, do their own. There was a so so deaf sound, a so so Def vibe and his ability to do it both in rap, but also have a bit of the soul there. Some of the epic production that he's been involved with, even outside of hip hop, thinking about albums like Mariah Carey's Emancipation of Mimi and others, even though he didn't always do everything in hip hop. I think that some of his influence can't go overstated there. And then the second person who's similar in that regard, I would say is Andre Harrell. We talked about him in past episodes, especially the bad boy one, but everything that he did from Uptown Records and then moving on to Motown Records and gave in many ways helped give Puff the blueprint for what he was able to do years later.[00:10:37] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, I think Andre had a lot of successes, also had a lot of failures, not necessarily, you know, through his own doing, the time, but definitely somebody who deserves, you know, a hat tip at the very least. And, you know, I'm sure Puff would agree about that too.[00:10:52] Dan Runcie: Agreed. Agreed. All right. We ready ready to get into it.[00:10:57] Zack Greenburg: Let's do it.[00:10:58] Dan Runcie: All right. So in the initial group here, which we're calling the don't overlook their influence group. This is people who are ranked 50 through 41. so in order we have Ethiopia have to Marion at 50. She was the former CEO of Motown. We have Top Dog, co founder and CEO of Top Dog Entertainment. We have Mona Scott Young from her work at Violators and more recently Love Hip Hop. And what she also has done with Hip Hop Homicides and some other multimedia projects. We have T.I. with everything he's done with Grand Hustle and Multimedia. We have Eazy E with Priority Records. Many ways pioneering so much of the stuff we saw.We have Todd Moskowitz, L. A. Reed, Craig Kalman, former CEO from Atlantic. We have Sylvia Roan and then tied for 40. We have Desiree Perez and Steve Stout. What are your thoughts on that group list?[00:11:55] Zack Greenburg: Oh, man, I don't know. Maybe we should just pick out a few here and there that we thought were particularly interesting. I mean, you know, I think Ethiopia is a good example of somebody who would be higher up if she were identified, you know, solely as a, you know, as a hip hop mogul, but she's had kind of like a pretty wide reach, you know, especially in R and B, and pop. I mean, some of the stuff she's done with Erykah Badu, NeYo, Stevie Wonder, you know, like over the years, you know, wouldn't be classified as hip hop, but it's worth it nonetheless. just think that, you know, being kind of like in between, in between genres, you know, resulted in her being down a little bit further on the list.But, you know, somebody who had a tremendous impact. you know, I would also, I would highlight TI here, you know, the self proclaimed King of the South, but, you know, in terms of, I remember the years when, you know, we were putting together the Forbes list and, you know, kind of looking at, you know, kind of regionally who is most important to me.Yeah, he was sort of like. The Jay Z of the South. And he was really, especially when he was having that moment, you know, getting a lot of songs on, you know, national radio and, kind of being in the public eye, I mean, had a tremendous business focus, you know, he was always interested in sort of like, what's the next thing that I can create?and you know, that kind of entrepreneurial energy, you know, I think, especially within the context of the South, like taking the blueprint, from guys like Jay Z, you know, I think he certainly deserves a mention. I kind of thought he'd end up higher here, but I guess he's been, not as, especially in the music front lately.and then I would definitely highlight, Desiree, you know, she's somebody who's been behind the scenes for a really long time, with Jay Z and rock nation, but like. she runs rock nation. And although Jay Z obviously has the final say in things, you know, a lot of things that you see, come out of that camp are, you know, her doing and have her fingerprints all over them.And I know some of y'all might have seen the Book of Hove exhibit at the Brooklyn Museum or the Brooklyn Public Library that was a Desiree Perez production and, you know, she said that it was like her emptying her 80, 000 square foot storage unit into the library, but, you know, but to have, you know, that kind of, impact at a place like Roc Nation and to help, you know, Jay Z do what he's done, you know, I think those are all worthy, of notation and, you know, I think she deserves her spot there for sure.[00:14:09] Dan Runcie: Yeah, Desiree is someone that has been working with Jay Z for a while now, and I feel like she deserved a shout out on Jay's verse in Pound Cake, the Drake song. You know where he's like, Dave made millions, Lyor made millions. I feel like Desiree should have gotten a shout out there too, but yeah.I'm glad that she got mentioned here. Two other names I'll run through quickly. Steve Stout, someone who I thought would have ended up higher, and I know that, you know, it was interesting to see how the results played out, but I do think that one of the best marketers that we've seen come through hip hop.He was ahead of the curve in a number of ways, dating back to the 90s with seeing the men in black sunglasses and everything that he's done there from his time working with Nas, everything that they've done, whether it was the firm or, him being a record executive himself and then showing as well, how he's able to do it in advertising and bringing a lot of these companies and brands that didn't necessarily align or think about being related with, you know, hip hop culture and those elements to be able to do it.You look at a company like State Farm and how we now look at what that company has done. And a lot of that is through his work and obviously with what he's done at United Masters. So shout out there and I also do want to give a shout out to Mona Scott Young mentioned her earlier, but she was a right hand to someone who will mention on the list as well coming up soon with everything she did in Violator, this is back when, you know, Q Tip and Busta Rhymes and that whole crew were doing their thing. And then later, I know people have a lot of polarizing opinions about love and hip hop, but if you look at the career opportunities that were created for people that have came through, and the longevity that she's granted, a lot of people that the record industry forgot about that she was able to continue to give opportunities for think about the trick daddies, Trina's and folks like that. I know people hate to see them arguing on camera, but would we have Cardi B where she is today? If it weren't for the platform of love and hip hop, and she's continued to do things with other vocals on the list that we'll get into. So I do want to give a shout out to her[00:16:08] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, definitely a worthy shout out. And we could probably go on and on about even just like the tent in this bracket here, but I suppose we ought to, we ought to move on to the next room before, before we run[00:16:19] Dan Runcie: indeed. Yep. So the next group is playing chest, not checkers. So at 39, we have Dave Mays, founder of the source 38. We have Irv Gotti, founder of Murder, Inc. 37, Cardi B 36, Lil Wayne 35, Nipsey Hussle, 34. Steve Rifkin, from Loud Records 33, Missy Elliot. 32 Birder from Cookies, 31 Kevin Lyles and 30 Chris Lighty.[00:16:47] Zack Greenburg: Oh man, this is a pretty stacked bracket, I must say. I think that, you know, there are a couple of names that stick out to me here. I'm going to go with Nipsey and Berner, because in a funny way, I think, they have like a sort of a similar, a sort of similar strategy, which is like, you have a very clear idea of what it is that you're going to do.You own it, and then you, you know, you continue to own it like ownership. Was just such an important thing for Nipsey. Such an important thing for Berner. And, you know, interviewing the two of them, I would say, their mindset around ownership was the closest I've ever seen to Jay Z. and they really understood from the beginning that they had to own all their music.Own all of their branding own, you know, the companies that create on the side and then they can monetize it later. And, you know, with Nipsey rest in peace. I mean, he was just on the cusp of, of kind of like becoming a mainstream superstar, you know, when, his life ended all too soon. So, I think what Berner is doing with cookies is really fascinating like Berner is, you know, you want to talk, lists. I mean, he's in the top five, probably the top four or three at this point, in terms of net worth for actual, hip hop artists. And that's because of the success of cookies and, you know, there's been, a lot of ups and downs in the cannabis business lately, but like the amount of ownership that he has, you know, I think it amounts to about one third still of cookies, which is, you know, a billion dollar brand. When we gets legalized, you know, like he's going to see the fruits of his labor and, that focus on ownership I think is really going to pay off on the longterm.So I would highlight those two guys, in this tier as the ones that, I think were the most impressive to me. That's not to shade anybody else, but,[00:18:25] Dan Runcie: Yeah, those two guys are also two of the few people who I see people still wearing their merchandise on a regular basis. Granted, I live in San Francisco. There's a cookie store here. So, I mean, I know there is a local connection for sure, but same with Nipsey Hussle. I mean, sadly, it's now been over 4 years since he passed away, and you still see Crenshaw shirts.He understood, Nipsey especially, understood exactly where everything's going. And it's just so sad that, you know, it was gone so soon. Two names, I'm going to shout out here. I'm going to shout. I'm going to shout out Cardi B and I want to shout out Chris Lighty. So Cardi B talked about her a little with the Mona Scott young piece, but she's entered and ran her rap career more uniquely than other artists that we've seen at her level have. And I think that speaks a lot to just where the game is now. It's been over six years since Bodak Yellow came out. And it's been over five years now since her debut album. This is someone who hasn't put out a studio album in over five years.And hasn't gone on tour in a traditional way, but it's still doing her thing. And I think this is one of the things that's unique. She finds interesting ways to monetize herself and to put herself on. She's like, Hey, I can do these private shows and they're going to pay me, you know, 1. 5 million or 3 million just to do a half an hour set.I'm going to do my thing. I'm going to be there at Super Bowl weekend. I may not be performing at the Super Bowl, but I'm going to go do these private shows for Bob craft or the fanatics event or all these things and collect the checks. it's very interesting to see younger artists to do that Lionel Richie playbook, but she is like, Hey, I don't necessarily have to do that. And even though people always do try to, you know, loop her into the Nicki Minaj versus Cardi B beef, she still has lended her hand and extended it to other young artists, especially women in the game, whether it's Ice Spice and others, whether she's doing it through her talents and others. So she's someone that I hope as she continues on, you know, into her thirties and into her forties can continue to rise up this list.And then Chris Lighty talked about a little bit with Mona Sky Young, co founder of Violator and everything they're able to do there. Sad that he was taken away so soon, but if you have not heard this yet and if you haven't listened to the podcast, I highly recommend the Mogul podcast series that was done several years ago on it.It was done by Reggie Yose, who is Combat Jack, who has since passed away as well, but I highly recommend that if you want a full breakdown on everything Chris Leite did. Violator and after that was truly one of the early ones looking at product partnerships and a lot of the things that we see now that are common in hip hop.[00:21:07] Zack Greenburg: And, you know, if we didn't have Chris Lighty, I don't think we would have had 50 Cent. I mean, at least not to the extent that we have him. you know, I mean, I remember writing my first story about 50 and like for Forbes, maybe 2008 and sitting down with Chris and just kind of like hearing him lay out the plan.And again, it's the emphasis on ownership, right? you know, Chris Leidy, I think was the one who really pushed, 50 to take the equity in vitamin water and his parent company, rather than just do an endorsement. And, you know, obviously that became a huge, deal and really like a model for so much, not only of hip hop, but like other parts of the entertainment industry, you know, I think Chris definitely deserves a spot, maybe even should be a little higher. and you know, probably also, there's, you know, again, all these folks deserve a shout out, but Kevin Lyles, I think is, got one of the most inspirational stories. you know, it's another person, I think we've both interviewed a bunch of times, but, you know, just his journey from intern to president of Def Jam and I think seven years. And he just did it by working harder than everybody else like he wasn't an artist that got put there because he had some hit, it wasn't some kind of like nepotism deal, you know, he just outworked everybody and, you know, he had the talent and, you know, the horsepower to just like get it done. And to make that journey within seven years. So I think it's, for people who are listening and, you know, want to do something like that with their own career, you know, study Kevin Miles because he was able to make it, without being, you know, some kind of like preternatural, singing talent or something like that he just did it on smarts and work ethic.[00:22:39] Dan Runcie: And one of the few people that co founded a record label and sold it a decade later for hundreds of millions of dollars, which is what he did 300 as well. Right? So of course, not 300 now underwater, but everything he did with Lyor and Todd, there, is impressive. There's not that many black founders in general. In tech, any sector that have built and exited companies for several hundred, a million dollars, the way that he was able to be a part of that. So, hats offhim.[00:23:09] Zack Greenburg: yeah, I think it takes a special kind of guts to be able to, you know, I mean, he was a well paid executive with a cushy music job, you know, to leave that world, start your own thing. I mean, I know they had, you know, big backers and everything, but like to take a risk once you've already experienced that level of success and to go out and start something, you know, as opposed to starting something from scratch when you have nothing anyway.I mean, it, takes a lot of gumption to do that. So, you know, again, yes, a pretty cool second act for Kevin miles.[00:23:38] Dan Runcie: Indeed, the next group here, our impact runs deep. It is Nicki Will Smith at 28, Swiss beats 27, LL Cool J, 26, Coach K and P, 25, Julie Greenwald, 24. The E40 23, Pharrell 22, and Rick Ross, 21.[00:24:01] Zack Greenburg: Yeah. I think, that's a pretty strong, deck there. And I think also, you know, here, you find some people who, you could argue should be higher or lower based on, you know, how much of their career was done in the hip hop music world, right? Like Queen Latifah, LL Cool J, Will Smith.Obviously those are huge crossover acts. but I think they all got a lot of points from some of the voters because, you know, that is in one way, the measure of a mogul, like you're diversifying your portfolio and whether that's by owning different things or, you know, by getting into, different types of performance, you know, on the silver screen, I think that's a viable path too.but just from like a purely musical entrepreneurial perspective, I would highlight, Swiss Beats and Pharrell, who I think, you know, the two of them are more influential than anybody in terms of like, I'd say Swizz in terms of art and Pharrell in terms of fashion. and you know, some of the things they've done around those two areas and, you know, Pharrell certainly, now with LVMH, but also before with Ice Cream, Billionaire Boys Club, you know, he was very active in starting his own things on the fashion side.And, you know, kind of inspiring artists to do that. you know, would we have had a Yeezy if we hadn't had Pharrell, you know, doing what he was doing and, you know, and even doing what he did with Adidas? you know, I don't know about that. And, Swiss beads certainly, you know, not only from the art side of things, but you know, it's a really impressive art collection.I did a story on him a few years ago and, you know, he's got like, Jeff Kuhn sculptures and Basquiat's and Warhol's and his, you know, like in his foyer. I mean, it's, pretty impressive stuff. but the way that he moves behind the scenes, as sort of like a corporate brand whisperer, at places, you know, like Bacardi, Lotus, you know, this goes on, you know, I think he, he's sort of like more quietlyinfluential than, some folks realize. And, you know, certainly has been earning, on par with, you know, with all the, you know, most of the names, if not higher than most of the names we've mentioned so far. and you know, what he's done on the, both of them, what they've done on the production side, also hard to top.So that must count for something as well. I kind of went more than one shout out there, didn't I? So[00:26:06] Dan Runcie: Yeah. No, that was good. That was good.I'm glad you mentioned the two of them though, because if you didn't, I probably would've called the other one out. The thing about Swiss as well, everything that he's done with versus specifically also embodies this idea and definition of a mogul because he was able to be.A kingmaker in the sense of creating opportunities for others. He did that through the equity that he was able to give all of those early participants in versus in trailer itself. And then additionally, with the careers that we're able to have a boost because of. everything that happened, with the matchups from versus specifically, you look at someone like Ashanti, who is now doing tours and pop it up every now and then she wasn't doing that before her versus and her battle versus Keisha Cole was one of the not, if not the most watched one that we've had.You look at Jadakiss and everything that he's been able to do since his epic showdown against, with Lox versus Dipset with that versus you look at Jeezy versus Gucci Mane. I know that versus definitely had its peak popularity during the pandemic, but that kind of stuff that he was able to do with Timbaland, I think also speaks so much to everything that he's been able to do there.And another person I want to mention to that was in this group as well that I think is similar is LL Cool J because I think similar to the way that. Swiss beets is Ella is also with someone that's been involved with multimedia with everything from the jump. He was the 1st artist to truly breakthrough from Def Jam and did it as a teenager.So, of course, he gets plenty of shout out for that, but he's also always been trying to find ways to look out for that next generation of artists. And he's been doing some of that more recently with rock the bells, and that's its own. Company and entity now where they have a festival coming up as well to celebrate things that are happening with hip hops anniversary.So it's been cool to see him do things as well. And I'll give a very brief shout out here to, coach K and P because they, similar to how I mentioned, Kevin Liles were able to build and grow a company and then sell it for, I believe, forget the exact sale price for, quality control. But they were able to do that thanks in part to a lot of the work that Ethiopia had done, helping to give quality control, the platform that it did, and especially in an era where I think it's harder for a record label to have a true brand, they were able to help give it a boost.[00:28:36] Zack Greenburg: That's true. And on that note of labels, I think Julie Greenwald, there's a mention, you know, she and Craig Kalman, who's mentioned, in an earlier grouping, you know, run Atlantic together. And there's a lot of, of music that we wouldn't have seen if it had been for the two of them, you know, running the show over there.So, shout out to Julie. I mean, the only one actually we haven't discussed here with E40 and Rick Ross. And I don't know, you know, probably get moving, but, do you think Rick Ross deserves to be number 21 on this entire list? Like ahead of Pharrell, ahead of, you know, some of the other names on here. I was surprised that he was ranked this high.[00:29:09] Dan Runcie: I love the spicy questions. Cause this is what people wanted to hear the podcast about, right? They wanted to hear one of us, you know, poke the bear a little bit.If Rick Ross was able to nail that dive in the pool, do you think you would have ranked him higher?[00:29:21] Zack Greenburg: Ha ha ha ha ha ha. No, no, I wouldn't. I mean, I still know. I mean, you know, like I get it, you know, he's called the boss that he must be a mogul, You know, and, some of the things he's done in terms of, you know, Bel Air and Maybach music and all that. Sure. But like, you know, when you put them up against like some of the other ones, did he really do something new or was he more just like following a, blueprint that had worked for others before and, you know, executing it to a degree success, but like, again, not, you know, not to the level of, let's say Pharrell.I think maybe I just, I'm salty that he ended up ahead of Pharrell. I think Pharrell is just way more influential and Mowgli, but, I don't know. What do you think?[00:29:59] Dan Runcie: So, I've read 2 of Ross's books and I interviewed him once on Trapital. I think that, to your point, he did follow the blueprint that we saw from others. I think he is smart about the types of partnerships he does, but it does feel like a ditty light. Type of playbook that he's been able to do and build.And I do think a lot of it makes sense. He may not necessarily have the large media entities the way that he does. Although I do think he's overdue for some type of comedy show or some type of reality show just following him around because I think he's hilarious. And anytime that he gets that, it could just generate something unique.And I'm sure he's been hit up about it. I do think that he's done well for himself. Just thinking about. Now, how his career is growing, I think it's been what, 16, 17 years since hustling 1st came out. I think in this range, there is some flexibility there in terms of like, where people are in certain ways.I get why he may not necessarily be as high. I'm sure if you looked at the net worth or the earnings, that some of the people that are lower than him may actually be higher. I think 1 of the knocks potentially is although Maybach music was cool. I wrote about this in Trapit as well. I think there was a missed opportunity.And part of that comes from, huh, did Ross do all the things that he probably could have done from a leadership perspective to especially like, when Meek Mill and Wally were beefing and stuff. And I think Ross had a bit more of a laissez faire approach to things, which in some ways is kind of the opposite of King making as we're talking about this, right?Can we really bring folks together and make something larger than it is. I think it was a bit tough in general for people to try to do everything themselves, try to be the boss of this label, which is signed to a different label because Rick Ross was signed to a different label than MNG was himself. And I think anytime you have that type of dynamic, it's just splitting the leadership interests. So I hear you.[00:32:00] Zack Greenburg: Yeah. So then how much of a mogul are you, if your label is really, you know, so I guess everybody's labels on somebody else's label and have you distributed by something, but you know, it's like when they're like multiple labels kind of, you know, intertwined with your label, it kind of causes the question.are you really the boss? If you have several bosses that you're answering to, but you know, I think actually though. in Rick Ross's defense, what he's done with Wingstop, I mean, that is pretty unique and, I don't know that anybody else on this list has something comparable in that space.So, you know, maybe that's why, I think, you know, by virtue of that, you could put them pretty high up. And maybe that's what some of the judges were thinking, you know, but he also ended up on a lot of lists, you know, so some of the judges just kind of like, maybe we're getting to some of the judges sent rank lists, and they're like, you know, this person is the top and they should get the most points and other people were like, here are my people.And you can just rank them evenly. and I think Rick Ross ended up on a lot of those lists. So, you know. I think again, maybe like I was alluding to earlier, he's a bit of a compiler, nothing wrong with that, you know, you can get into the hall of fame by compiling 3000 hits, but, it's interesting to see how, how the opinions differ. That's the whole fun of it.[00:33:06] Dan Runcie: He runs his business is almost like how a small business owner would in a number of ways where he has a bunch of car washes and, you know, his is 1 of the family members does that he has his wing stops, right? He has that. And it is a bit of this, like, mogul dumbness from that perspective in terms of like, okay, I have my hands in these things and I've hired people to have, you know, different roles within that that doesn't necessarily have things in aggregate. It's a bit more of the strip mall mentality as opposed to the, you know, building a skyscraper that could then build other skyscrapers, but it's something worth mentioning, but I hope we keep that up with a few of the other rankings we have coming up as we dig into the top 20, here.So, yeah, let's start with 20. So, 20, Queen Latifah, I think that she and, Ice Cube, who we'll get into in a minute, were one of the first that noticed, hey, I may not be able to do this rap thing forever, what are areas that I can expand this multimedia empire and everything I'm building.She was able to do this with Living Single, the show that was Friends before Friends was, and even the way that she was able to show young black people that were having, you know, highly sought after roles, but they still had their interpersonal dynamics. It was cool. It was refreshing. It was aspirational, which I do think that a lot of the black sitcoms were in the 90s.And she was able to do that, continue finding ways to put other people on as well through the work that she did. She was also willing to take risks. Like I remember when she was in set it off, people had a bunch of questions about, Oh, you're going to play a lesbian in this heist movie. What is this going to do for your career?And she was willing to do that. And I think she is always, you know, be willing to take risks. So, you know, shout out to her and I'm glad that several people have mentioned her[00:34:56] Zack Greenburg: Yeah. And I think she gets credit for, like you say, diversifying her portfolio. you know, into the acting world. it's worth noting, you know, she was barely ahead of Rick Ross. but you know, there is a big difference between 21 and 20. It's the top 20. So, again, I think, you know, she was a bit of a compiler, but there were a couple of people who ranked her in the top 10.and, you know, I think just like in terms of the breadth of her career, you know, the longevity, the diversity of the things that she's gotten into. you know, even if it's not as much ownership as somebody, even like a Rick Ross, it's just like, having your hands in a lot of pies and like that really counts for something as a mogul.So, I think it makes sense to see you there.[00:35:36] Dan Runcie: Agreed 19 is Eminem. So let's talk about it. How do we feel about Eminem in 19?[00:35:43] Zack Greenburg: You know, I think it's a weird one, honestly. you know, there's no doubting, his lyrical prowess and where, you know, where he kind of stacks up as part of like the pantheon of lyricists, like fine. But is he really a mogul? I mean, he's somebody who has been, you know, very reclusive at times. Who has, you know, kind of gotten in his own way at other times. I mean, I could see ranking him up here though, just by virtue of ownership of the music and sort of like the quality and quantity of his catalog. you know, what he did with D12, you know, he did have shady records and, you know, and all that.So again, you know, there, there is kind of a layer cake of a label situation, like some of the folks who mentioned earlier across, but, you know, that was at least important to him to set up, you know, as his continued ownership of, You know, his work and, you know, certainly when it comes to like raw commercial prowess, you know, Eminem, is one of the best selling hip hop artists of all time.If not the best, depending on how you look at it. And just, you know, simply by virtue of the amount of revenue he generated, you know, throughout the late 90s and early aughts at the peak of the sort of CD age there. you know, that deserves, some kind of something, even if he wasn't running around starting his own, you know, side businesses as much as some of these other folks[00:37:02] Dan Runcie: Best selling artist of the 2000s by a pretty strong amount, I believe, and has the most of any genre, right? And the most streamed song of the 2000s as well, at least on Spotify with Lose Yourself, and I'm pretty sure Till I Collapse and maybe a couple of others aren't too far. Behind as Will Page as Spotify's former chief economist said, anytime Eminem farts or burps or releases anything on a streaming service, it provides a huge bump to everything in this back catalog.So, I still laugh about that, but I do think that speaks to it there and. If, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he was one of the first hip hop artists to have a Sirius XM channel himself.So that's something that's unique and obviously Sirius is still doing its thing. So, shout out to him there. A bit higher than I probably would have ranked him, but that's why it's interesting to get the group results here. Ah, this one's gonna be spicy. Number 18. Your boy, Suge Knight.[00:38:02] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, you know, I mean, I think this is one of the tougher ones on the entire list. You know, this is not like a list of, Ms. Congeniality or Mr. Congeniality, as you'll see, you know, some of the other names on here. Obviously, you know, Suge is in jail. he's been involved in the death of, you know, human beings that like that is, you know, not sort of like what you're after in a mogul here, but, enough people, you know, I guess felt that the business, if you just, you know, looking at it from a pure business perspective, was enough to put them up here. And, you know, there is no arguing that death row at its peak was one of the most influential record labels, you know, not just in hip hop, but of anything. I mean, any genre, when death row was at its hottest, I don't know any, kind of moment where any other, you know, you'd have to stack that up against peak Motown or, you know, Atlantic or something like that, but, you know, that was really like a, peak moment. So, you know, I think this is one of the things we run into on this list like if somebody exhibits, a level of, you know, sort of business ingenuity, you know, that counts for something and, you know, the other things that you do in your life and your career, you know, we'll detract from that, but, you know, what you did at your peak, I think will get you pretty far in a list like this when people kind of count, you know, we kind of count sort of like the ceiling as opposed to the average, in some cases. So, I don't know. What do you think?[00:39:27] Dan Runcie: These are the two most impressive business moves that Suge Knight has done. Number two is shaking down Vanilla Ice to get his points for everything that he did on the album that had Ice Ice Baby there. Because he was able to use that money to then start and co found Death Row with Dr. Dre. That's number two.Number one is at the 1995 Source Awards where he publicly makes his Call to attract Tupac to say, Hey, I know you're in jail, but we're riding with you. Tupac wasn't signed there at the time, but he knew that this was an opportunity. Tupac likely needed somewhere to call a home and he called his shot. He was able to make it happen.I know everyone talks about the diddy shot about, you know, being all in the video death row. And that, of course, is infamous in its own right. But I think the number one thing that should night did is that that said. those 2 things speak to what should night is, 1, it is that muscle and the prowess of being able to overpower a situation and then take advantage.And I think those were things that he was good at. That said, I don't think he was necessarily strong as a. Business leader, the company imploded in large part. And I don't think it imploded because of Dr. Dre, it imploded because of all of the things, all the shenanigans. And I think for what he was building, some of that just got a little too close to the sun, unfortunately. And, that's Chuck Knight[00:40:49] Zack Greenburg: And, I think that, you know, in some of the reporting I've done over the years, One of the things people say is that Shug and a lot of the guys around him, you know, it wasn't that they were necessarily like that. It's just they kind of had been watching too many bad gangster movies and the music business, didn't know what to do with somebody like Suge Knight.And so the more he kind of like played this role, the more he grew into it to where, to the point where he was actually living sort of a bad gangster movie. and sort of like created, turned himself into a monster. Yeah, so I think like the evolution. or the evolution, of somebody like Suge Knight is sort of fascinating in terms of like what you can, what sort of playing a role can do to you, over the course of time.[00:41:32] Dan Runcie: Agreed. And well said number 17 here is America's most wanted ice cube. I'll start here to kick things off. I think that Ice Cube, like Queen Latifah mentioned earlier, was one of the early ones who had said that he knew that living and doing everything off a raft wasn't gonna last forever. And I think a lot of it was because he experienced some of the brunt and ugliness of it.I mean, we've all seen the Straight Outta Compton movie. He goes into Jerry Heller's office. He starts smashing shit. He releases no Vaseline. There was definitely a no fucks given that carried through even after he was done with NWA, but he saw what this industry is like as well and then that's when he starts writing screenplays.And then that's how Friday because the thing becomes a thing. And then. His career just continues to take off after that he still dabbled in rap and did his thing, but he definitely became known early on for one of the people that took a risk with cube entertainment and everything that he was able to do there.And with any of the movies that he had, whether it was the movies with Mike Epps and plenty others, I do believe that most of these movies were pretty profitable. And he was able to. Do it work within the confines that he had and just continue to build everything he did from a career. We've seen him expand as well into everything that he's done with the big 3 specifically giving a home for basketball players that can still play, but maybe they can't make, you know, a 13 person NBA roster anymore.I do think that some of his more recent news highlights that are a bit more politically driven or him walking around with Tucker Carlson and probably take it away from some of the more prominent memories of Hugh Ice Cube is, but yeah, that's why I had had him or that's why he, I think deserves to be, you know, where he is, on the list.[00:43:27] Zack Greenburg: Yeah. And I think it's interesting, you know, you see, Eminem, Suge Knight, Ice Cube, all together, you know, they're all, inextricably connected to Dr. Dre. one way or the other. Right. and you know, would there, would Dre have been Dre without the three of them? you know, at different phases of his career, you know, I don't know, I mean, I think certainly what, Ice Cube did as part of NWA, you know, I wouldn't say that, that NWA was like.like a business first organization. But like that wasn't the point of NWA and if it hadn't been for NWA, I don't think you would have been able to have business first organizations come out of hip hop in the way that you did. and certainly, you know, somebody like Dr. Dre, so. I think he gets extra points for that.and, you know, this is probably why, you know, he was again, I don't know, was he compiler? He was, you know, he had like a lot of kind of middling, a lot of lists, a couple of top 10 votes, you know? So, you know, I think again, everybody has their favorite and he's up there for a lot of folks.[00:44:27] Dan Runcie: Agreed. Number 16 is Drake. Should we poke the bear again?[00:44:33] Zack Greenburg: Yeah. Does Drake deserve to be at number 16 on this list?[00:44:37] Dan Runcie: This one surprised me, I was very surprised at the number of people that had him on the list, because you can make a case for the opposite, right? It's similar to the M and M thing, but almost to the extreme because M and M, yes, most commercially successful artists, XYZ. There's other artists that are less commercially successful at M and M that did more in that mogul definition but for Drake, it's even bigger of a Delta between these two, because here you have the most streamed artists of all time. So clearly commercially successful on its own, but people believe that OVO. Records or OVO sound itself actually could hurt an artist's career. And when you think about that, you think about some of the other multimedia things that he's done.I know he's been active as an investor and I know that people like Nicki Minaj and others have said, Oh, you know, Drake's a low key billionaire. He just doesn't want you to know it personally. Again, he may be, I mean, I'm not sure what he may not disclose, but it isn't always just about wealth. It's like, what opportunities were you able to create for each other?I do think it's good. That drink has been able to have different people that have been working alongside that. I think did get a bit of that drink stimulus package. And I think that's something that is quite debated, but I do think that. I feel like 21 Savage has definitely benefited from it. I mean, he was already commercially successful, but for him and Drake to do a joint album together was huge.I think it was the same way that it was huge for Future and the same way that the Migos going on tour with Drake in 2018 was huge for them and anything else that Drake continues to do from that perspective. So I think it is, you know, debatable, but I mean, people do definitely add some weight to the artists themselves.[00:46:18] Zack Greenburg: Yeah. And, you know, I think he should be around Eminem and whether they're both too high is an open question, but, you know, there's no doubting the commercial viability of what he's done. He did start more side businesses in Eminem, right? With OVO, whether it's the label, the festival, the clothing line, you know, he started a whiskey brand called Virginia black, which I tried once.It tasted okay. but I don't think it's selling, you know, I don't know if he's even still doing it. yeah, he is definitely involved as a startup investor, so maybe, you know, we'll see some exits and we start to think of him differently at that point. But, yeah, you know, again, I think it's, some voters just kind of overweighted, you know, musical prowess and pop culture influence.And if you're talking about that, I, I don't know anybody who's been as influential in the past 15 years. I mean, he's, you know, he's the most streamed artist of all time and that's got to count for something.[00:47:08] Dan Runcie: Right. I know his cannabis line failed, but there's a lot of people, even people that we'll get to in this list that have also had failed or struggling cannabisbusinesses. And, there's a lot that we could discuss there, but moving on number 15 is Sylvia Robinson, the originator.[00:47:26] Zack Greenburg: I think she deserves to be in the top five, personally. because if there were no Sylvia Robinson, yeah, I mean, I don't know that we have hip hop and, you know, it's, you know, for those who don't know the story, she was running sugar hill records with her husband, Joe sylvia was actually a child star singer herself.And, you know, they kind of had this like middling existence with their label. And then all of a sudden she's at this birthday party that she didn't even want to go to in Harlem and she sees Lovebug Starsky up on the microphone. A hip hop hippie to the hippie to the hip hip hop. You know, this is early, early seventies.She's never heard anything like it. All the kids, you know, hands in the air, like you just don't care. And the whole thing. she tries to get Lovebug to sign. There's some kind of dispute, like with his management, never happens. And so she just goes to the pizzeria in New Jersey, finds three kids, get him, gets them to talk real fast over this record is how she described it.and that's, you know, that's Rapper's Delight. That's the first hip hop song on Wax. That's the first hit. you know, that sort of spawns the whole genre. So, you could certainly argue, that, you know, she, borrowed or she hired, hired people who borrowed or whatever to do this, you know, like the idea that, that the first hip hop, track on wax was like, you know, originated in a pizza shop in New Jersey is really unfortunate cause it started at the Bronx, but like, you know, Sylvia came from Harlem.She, you know, she, she knew that world. Like, you know, she was part of the music business and, for better or worse, she took hip hop from being, you know, just basically like spoken word in person kind of thing to being, you know, national events. Would it have happened eventually?Yeah, I think so. But you know, who knows? I mean, it could have taken years longer and if it took years longer, you know, are we going to have the eighties with like run DMC and Def Jam and all that? Like, you know, I don't know. I mean, it, could have taken a lot longer to get off the ground if she hadn't done what she'd done.And, you know, I don't think we, I don't think we should really be dinging Sylvia Robinson for her Machiavellian tactics, given some of the other people on this list, you know, we're talking like Suge Knight and whoever else, you know, there's quite nefarious characters, you know, as we get higher up too in this list.So, you know, I don't think anything she did was. remotely as bad as, as like a lot of the dudes on this list. and, you know, so, you know, let's, I think we give her her due and yeah, I would definitely put her higher, but, you know, I think that's part of the deal when, when you have somebody who's that early on.You know, people are going to say, Oh, well, you know, the total gross is not quite as much as so and so or whatever the case may be. And she wasn't as famous as some of the artists. So, but you know, she's up there, I mean, ahead of some pretty big names, Drake, Eminem, what have you. So, I think she's getting some flowers here[00:50:00] Dan Runcie: The total gross knock is always one that makes me roll my eyes a bit because even if you take out the inflation aspect and the amount of money that's now in the industry, this is something that happens with pioneers in any type of industry. They are the ones that take the early hits to make it possible.She and her work is what made it possible for rappers to like, she and her workers have made it possible for the message and anything else that we then see after that. Yes. Sugar Hill. records did have its struggles, afterward, like many other labels. But what do you think about broader context of the eighties being a very tough time in general for black music?And there were only a certain number of decision makers in power that could make that happen. Yeah. You have to take that into account. And then additionally, she did stuff outside of even just this record label itself. As you mentioned, she was a recording artist herself. She also owned a nightclub. So there were other mogul type things that she had her hands.And so shout out to Sylvia, who knows where this would be without her.[00:51:00] Zack Greenburg: And probably worth caveating also that, you know, she did have some, Disputes over paying artists, as the years went on. So did like really a lot of people on this list is we could do like a whole separate, you know, like has some kind of dispute on how they pay artists. So, you know, that, that's probably worth noting too, but yeah, I mean, so does everybody else.And, you know, I think she deserves her flowers.[00:51:22] Dan Runcie: Number 14, Dame Dash,[00:51:25] Zack Greenburg: Another, another hot one coming in. I mean, I think a lot of people would disagree with this, but you know, some people would put them even higher. I mean, I think he might be the most polarizing name on this entire list. Like some people had on top five, you know, some people didn't list them at all.you know, I think it kind of comes in. We've had this conversation before. Would there be a Jay Z without a Damon Dash? you know, I mean, I think so, but it's that part of the, you know, we've talked about him in the context of startups and do you, you know, you need a different kind of founder for your like pre seed days than you do for your series B.you know, if you're like a mafia, family, you need like a wartime Don, you know, versus like a peacetime Don or whatever it's called. But like, you know, I think, Dame Dash is a wartime Don. He's a seed stage startup founder. and he does it fair as well. You know, when it comes to like the growth stage and the corporate boardrooms and stuff, but, you know, there's no denying his brilliance.you know, I think what he did, you know, certainly with rock aware, you know, expanding, the Roc-A-Fella empire beyond music. you know, maybe he realized that Jay was eventually going to leave and that they just, it wasn't going to be forever. And so he wanted to get his hands into, you know, as many different areas as he could, but, you know, there's like a lot of pro and a fair bit of con, but, you know, I think again, he's one who, you know, the pro outweighed the con, he didn't kill anybody, you know, so there's some people on here who did.yeah, the con is only like so much con in my opinion.[00:52:56] Dan Runcie: This conversation makes me think about, that backstage documentary that. Roc-A-Fella had put out after the hard knock life tour. And there's that infamous scene of Dave dash yelling and swearing at Kevin Lyles, who was at Def Jam at the time about the jackets and where what logo was supposed to be, or something other than that.And thinking about that in context now of like, you know, how we talked about Kevin Lyles and everything he was able to do from that run and still can continue to do. And with where Dame Dash is, is in his career, Dame Dash doing his thing. I think he very much lived through and practice and preach the ownership standards that worked for him, where he has Dame Dash Studios, Dame Dash this, and he's been able to.Create exactly what he wanted to. We heard him on that infamous 2015 breakfast club interview where he's yelling at DJ Envy and Charlemagne about, Oh, well, if your son wants a job, can you get him a job here at power 105 or whatever? No. Well, I can do him at where I'm at. And as comic as the delivery was, there is some aspect of mogul dumb.That is a bit of that King making aspect of, okay, can you create opportunities for others around you? What those opportunities look like definitely vary. And I think that is a factor. So I do highlight that is something that Dame is able to do. And Dave is also similar to he's similar to a polarizing basketball player in the sense that the media may look and be like, why do you all fuck with this guy?Like, what's going on? But if you ask the people that are actually in it, a lot of that would be like, oh, well, you got to look at Dame dash, Dame dash is the guy. And when I have. Interviewed. I'm sure you've interviewed and talked to many of young artists, too, or young label executives, too. A lot of them will reference Dave Dash.A lot of them will look at what he was able to do alongside Roc-A-Fella, almost in the same way that, you know, players will swear by Kyrie or swear by James Harden or some other type of athlete that may be polarizing in their own right. And the media is like, Oh, why do you all like this guy? And it's like, Oh, well, no, you don't understand.So there's something about. The people, and obviously I say that being self aware is us as people more so on the media side, as opposed to being in it themselves. But there's something about these young artists and moguls as well that have always looked up and respected what Dame has built. And even though it may not resonate, like, personally, I acknowledge that.[00:55:23] Zack Greenburg: I would say, if you're going to make a basketball reference, Maybe not personality, but like basketball style, I'd almost liken him to Carmelo Anthony, you know, like he's an isolationist. He's a scorer, like, you know, he may not be very good at distributing the basketball, but like, you know, you throw him the ball in the corner and he's going to find a way to get it in.And, You know, like a lot of people wouldn't think that he belongs in the Hall of Fame at all, you know, but some people would, be insistent on it. So, you know, yeah, I think that sort of like singular focus, you know, you could definitely give him credit for that,[00:55:55] Dan Runcie: Agreed. Number 13, we are Cohen.[00:55:58] Zack Greenburg: man, another like bulldozer of a human being, but, you know, certainly somebody who, you know, maybe he has also got the finger roll, you know, like he, he can have a light touch when needed. you know, I think just like in terms of longevity, we talk about longevity with some of the names on this list, you know, Leroy was there in the very beginning of hip hop, you know, managing rappers, and it gives the road manager run DMC, taking the leader

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DRAGON MASTERS has it all! Dragons, a Dragon Stone, a king, a wizard, and magic! In the first book in this fully-illustrated series, 8-year old Drake is snatched up by King Roland's soldier and taken to the castle. He is to be trained as a Dragon Master. At the castle, he is joined by three other young Dragon Masters-in-training: Ana, Rori, and Bo. The Dragon Masters must learn how to connect with and train their dragons--and they must also uncover their dragons' special powers. Does Drake have what it takes to be a Dragon Master? What is his dragon's special power?

Welcome to another week and another great episode. Right away Q gets into our new music of the week and the fellas discuss Yung Blue and his new singles for his upcoming project. How much pressure is on Yung Blue since being put on by Drake? Is his first two songs living up the the hype? Is Yung Blue trying to avoid the “Drake song guy” (17:20) Post Malone is incredible but does he make the same song over and over? (30:45) “Leave your 8K cameras at home people” - Q after drake got caught taking Amari Bailey's mother on a date in a Dodgers Stadium he rented out. Of course Noah isn't buying he was just caught there though and the conversation starts. Is this marketing for Certified lover boy? Album cover perhaps? Does Drake get anytime to himself anymore? What this could also mean for Amari? (41:50) Sean Kingston is a genius and tells us where Drake gets his bars from…. And its no ghost writer (44:10) Logan Paul says he thinks Lil Baby is trash and gives him “A Year”. He later retracted this statement but this got so much attention and Noah thinks this was all on purpose. Does Logan Paul really not know Lil Baby? Does he think he's trash? Or is this some kind of attention grab. (52:10) Q wants to give a shoutout to Stephan A Smith for the bag he is getting from ESPN but Noah has a completely different tone. (56:40) The Espys were over the weekend, the pod reviews the highlights of the event and Noah appreciates Lamelo Ball more. Sleepers: Q: No Jail Time - G Herbo Noah: Next up 47 - Deno

What's good everyone?! Welcome back to another episode of Where's My Lighter Podcast with your favorite Miami trio. Does Drake seem too old to be having a heart razored in on his head? Are y'all vaxxed? Cause that Delta strain is out to get ya. Who else is heading out to Day N Vegas in November, HAVE YOU SEEN THE LINE UPS?!!! Shoutout to all the skaters for getting up after eating shit cause the squad is scared to fall. And shoutout to their individual aesthetics.  Being that we live in Miami, have y'all ever met a celebrity? Maybe stood next to them in an elevator and not acknowledge their presence

What is considered "ghostwriting"? Does Drake have ghostwriters? Is it okay for certain artists not to write their own lyrics? Can certain rappers not have ghostwriters? What about producers who also rap? Can you be considered one of the best if you are known to have ghostwriters? EC and OH cover it all on this episode with a conversation with a Lucky Listener of the show. Tune in!Hip Hop Leaf: MC + DJ LeafSpecial Guest: Joel (Lucky Listener)Like the pod? Subscribe and follow:Instagram: @hhcloverleafTwitter: @hhcloverleafFacebook: @hhcloverleafYouTube: Hip Hop Cloverleaf PodcastSoundcloud: Hip Hop Cloverleaf PodcastWebsite: hiphopcloverleaf.comEmail: hiphopcloverleafpodcast@gmail.comCreditsEpisode Artwork: "drake" by tODDl3r is licensed with CC BY 2.0. To view a copy of this license, visit https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/Production:EC and OHMahfuzZahidEdgar P.Jay 717Adrian Stubb

In this episode we are talking about..... If you could be famous what would you be famous for? Joe Budden podcast conflict Gas shortage craziness If you could make 1 rule for the world to follow, what would it be? Does Drake deserve artist of the decade? And so much more! Tune in!

This week, 0:27 we celebrate & appreciate Snoop Dogg for his contributions to hip-hop in the forms of Doggystyle and R & G & what Doggystyle did for albums after it in terms of sequencing and skits, 16:03 Did Snoop Dogg influence Drake's style of singing & rapping? Does Drake even write? 23:39 Rick Ross is a better songmaker than Jay Z, 28:47 we give our early impressions on DC's new project, In The Loop, 36:51 Iris's 1st impressions on Snowfall even though this is his 3rd time starting it and Mikes' review of Carlito's Way, 46:20 our take on Lil Nas X and his controversial video Montero & his new Nikes shoes with drops of blood! Tap in@creativeirisldn on the Insta@mikesveryown on the Tweets@slimetalk on the Tweets / @_slimetalk on the InstaSlime Talk on YouTube

Entertainment - Stimmies are on the way, vagina cleansers, Kirk Franklin went off on his son, and Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Hot Topics - Is Chloe Bailey doing too much? and Does Drake need to pass the torch? Article - Can food really make you happy? Godspiration - We discuss that if you answer God's call you will do powerful things

Is the NBA being irresponsible by holding the 2021 NBA All Star game in Atlanta?

Yo yo it's another week of SSP. This week The Big Pod got into Swain going back to Android, Does Drake need a Lil Baby feature?, TI and Tiny and the recent allegations against them, 17 year old kid kills his entire family, Chicago carjackings increasing, and this week's fan mail is one to remember. Oh yea Happy Birthday Jay. It's plenty more we got into but that's what the play button for --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/swainsessionspod/message

It's 1975 and Noah and Drake have turned to a life a crime since their days in the orphanage. When Noah gets caught and sent to prison, Drake narrowly escapes the law - but he can't escape the consequences of his actions. Scarlett can't believe what's become of her brother. Does Drake have what it takes to prove he can be a good person and make it up to his sister? Or has he already gone too deep down this path to ever find his way out? 'Our Family' is a three-part audio drama from Prop Box Youth Theatre starring our students and produced in association with Isaac Lawrence Films and Hayden Davey Audio Production. | Prop Box Youth Theatre Website: propboxyouththeatre.co.uk | Isaac Lawrence Films Website: isaaclawrencefilms.co.uk | Cast: Alexandra L. as Scarlett | Archie C. as Drake | Summer R. as Joanna | Charlie L. as Noah | Phoebe N. as May | Ashley R. as Emily | Taylor R. as Rebecca | Isaac L. as the Robbery Victim | Hayden D. as the Policeman & Prison Guard | Recorded, Edited and Foley Art by Hayden Davey | Produced by Caroline Dennis, Sarah Lubbock and Isaac Lawrence | Characters by The Cast | Written by Charlie Lubbock | Directed by Isaac Lawrence | ©Isaac Lawrence Films 2020. All Rights Reserved. Used Under Exclusive Licence by Prop Box Youth Theatre.

R.A.P. spells rap. It also stands for Regular Ass P.... 3ThePodway chops it up about all things #culture. Does Drake have video/song of the year? Would you risk it all to sneak something special into the bubble? What’s the “sneakiest” move you’ve made? Let’s discuss. Share your thoughts in the comments. #Partnersinpod Spotlight:@_avsphotagraphy for photography@forthecultureclothing for custom apparelFollow us @3thepodway @southsidelee @just_the_basics. Like, Post, Follow, and Stream on all platforms. Link in the Bio. #3thepodway #partnersinpod

  Reese Sean  Tonight .....What and who do you define as “elite” lyricists??? and Does Drake qualify as an “elite” lyricist??

Does Drake really have someone on staff to tie his shoes for him? Have you ever text someone in the same room as you? We’ll celebrate Fairy Tale Day with an original story from Damnit Maurie. The countdown to The Damnits getting their little dog Andy Monroe continues as we hear them argue over clicker training.

Del (Chinua Ofulue) is an RnB and alternative soul singer, rapper and writer. He recently graduated with a Bachelor of Arts in Political Science and Economics from Western University. In this episode we talk about is Drake the smartest and greatest rapper alive, advice for breaking into the music industry. How to market and grow your personal brand as a creative and much more. Why Del chose to go to university and wants to go to law school while wanting to be a music artist? Timestamp Del does a freestyle rap live on the show! 44:00 Why Del wants to go to law school while pursuing a music career? 7:37 Does Drake write his own music? - 17:00 What music are you listening to and what are your influences 19:00 The genius of Drake's music and marketing - 23:00 What can aspiring artists learn from Drake? - 29:10 Advice for breaking into the music industry - 33:20 Marketing ideas and strategies for growing your personal brand - 37:05 What is the biggest challenge you have right now? - 39:20 Finding inspiration from Anime 46:10 Why go to school? Why not just pursue your passion right away - 52:40 Where does Del see himself in 25 years - 1:03:25 If you could have dinner with anyone who would it be 1:12:46 Links Full interview and video: https://atila.ca/blog/tomiwa/singer-rapper-writer-delgotgame-chinua-ofulue-atila-tv-013 Watch on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2F-dp9Brgw Listen On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0m74ZmCPgjvp5WGOMg3P9C Listen on Itunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-atila-podcast/id1440531021 Del's Music: https://delmusic.net Del's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/delgotgame/ Del's Twitter: https://twitter.com/manlikedel Rowan Makes Art: https://www.instagram.com/rowanmakesart/ Atila Tech's instagram: https://www.instagram.com/atilatech/ Tomiwa's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tademidun/ Jacob's Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacob-munene-4561a4153/ Atila LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/atila-tech/ Tomiwa's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tomiwa1a Tomiwa's twitter: https://twitter.com/tomiwa1a Jacob's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/munenejr

The Kings of Dope Criticism, Pharaohs of Prolific Opinion, and Emperors of Elevated Thought are back at it again. In this episode JustShola & your boy Harris dive into:• MUSIC POTPOURRI. An update regarding Mac Miller as a second person is charged in his death. Master P brings up some very interesting points in the Knowledge vs Money debate; we take that discussion further. Should Beyonce be able to trademark Blue Ivy’s name? Keep It Or Leak It x3; Chris Brown Indigo Deluxe, Eminem x Dr. Dre, and Lil Pump x Smoke Purpp. We got Shoutouts; Nicki Minaj for her new 7-figure Fendi deal, and Drake for going 11x platinum for ‘God’s Plan’. Does Drake have 150 hits?! New Music Report; DaBaby, Young M.A., Kevin Gates, PnB Rock, Nicki Minaj, H.E.R., Summer Walker, and more. Finally we ask, What’s In Your Rotation? (18:18)• RANDOM THOUGHTS, including what’s on each of our Netflix lists (1:57:24)Check us out at www.TrueNorthViews.ca. As usual, the Viewers can follow us on all platforms @TrueNorthViews, including YouTube. Find us on Facebook @ www.Facebook.com/truenorthviewspodcast. Search ‘True North Views’ on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your major podcast platform of choice. Subscribe, rate, and comment.This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

On this episode, we talk about the best weekend in the best city in the world. Does Drake really run Toronto?? We also welcomed our first guest over the phone as we called Wazir's number neighbor and we talk about whether we think Lily Singh will be successful in her latest venture.

Here's some questions for you. Does drake have a classic album? Would Josh Gordan be an elite receiver if he never got suspended? Oh and are remakes getting old? We answer all this and more tune in and stick around for a special music teaser for our guest next week. Does Drake have a classic album:00.02.00-00.17.00 Sports:00.17.00-00.30.00 What's going on with remakes: 00.30.00-00.46.00 Questions:00.46.00-00.56.00 Music Teaser: 00.57.00-00.58.00 --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Does Drake have a curse that extends to sports? Also, who killed Comedy? Is this generation just soft or are there other factors we aren't taking into consideration. Music by FathrGodSun. #thoughtcrimezThought Crimez Instagram https://www.instagram.com/thoughtcrimez1984/?hl=enYoutube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzBs702BAVaLW2tia1mbnTw?view_as=subscriberTwitter https://twitter.com/Thought_CrimezFathrgodsun Instagram https://www.instagram.com/blumajic_yahsun/?hl=en  

Short one for you guys this week as we prep for the live event Sunday May 26th at the kickball tournament! We discussed Memorial Day weekend and pool openings. A new CNN poll about some nasty nasty pool habits. Does Drake getting fake abs make it cool for men to get plastic surgery? We end it with some final thoughts on Game of Thrones and the series finale. Did you enjoy it? Did it change your mind on the series as a whole? Catch you guys at the live event!

BallersEmpireRadio This week InternationalBill, Coach, Jeff and Gaffer give there hot takes on Arsenals woeful away form, who make the top 4, Why Kodak Black behaves the way he does, Does Drake deserve all the love he gets from the UK or is he using us. Side note “say east London” Follow us on • Instagram @BallersEmpire • Twitter @BallersEmpire • Facebook – BallersEmpire Get Intouch at podcast@ballersempire.com

Gobe, Gi (Raval Lavar), & Brytnie Devon talk Soulja Boy birthing social media challenges, Ariana Grande “stealing” Soulja Boy’s flow on new song “7 Rings” and recycled sounds, covers, samples, and influences in hip hop. Where do you draw the line between paying homage to artists and “stealing” content? The conversation flows into Drake, the self-proclaimed best “rapper” and his history of referencing other artists lyrics and flows. Does Drake features take away from the original artist? As always, give us your two cents in the comments. 

As its that festive season we have a conversation about everything festive. Plus: Are New Years Eve parties over rated? Was Offset's antics in trying to win Cardi B over staged? Does Drake have real venom in his threatening voice? #HalfcastPodcast @ChuckieOnline @Savage_Dan_ @DjSlickUK

Guest:TrapStar - extragrind.lnk.to/ogstarpjtwitter.com/TrapSTAR1 Game of Choice: Uno // Shots: Vodka Part 2 - Includes speaking on super producer @DjayCAS, Rae Sremmurd, microwave music era, great RNB, Does Drake belong in the top 5, MJ vs Prince and Trap takes us down memory lane with meeting Big Meech and BMF. www.JustAnotherWeekPodcast.com - Weekly Podcastwww.theHouseofAli.com - Coming Soonwww.twitter.com/CarolinaKEiZ - Host ( Keiz Ali )www.twitter.com/Only1_Carter - Host ( Carter) --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/justanotherweekpodcast/support

This episode takes on a Drake deep dive, started at the end of a previous episode. In true chatterbox style, we had to get on some drake critics to fully dissect this topic: Does Drake have a classic and has he reached his peaked. S/O to our amazing guests who made this episode so dynamic: -Andy from 2Gs, check them out on Twitter and Instagram @2gsinapod, https://soundcloud.com/2gsinapod_podcast -Ife from @MeMyselfandIfe on Youtube, @imife_ on Twitter. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAbpz1_N3oeb_HgshLyP20A/videos -The guys from @theraWSauce radio show, @itsovooao and @wazshitta on Twitter, check them out on mix cloud https://www.mixcloud.com/TheRaWSauce/ Enjoy x

On this episode Drizzle sits down with his homie Eric (Sunny). They talk about where Scorpion ranks as a Drake album. Does Drake owe Shiggy anything for the #ShiggyChallenge to "In my Feelings. How Lebron likes to control the narrative. Why were there 12 kids stuck in a cave in Thailand plus much more on this episode.

Some people like their beef slow cooked. They like it to simmer and broil until it’s tender. The beef between Drake and Pusha T is no different. Shots have been thrown over the years in a plethora of album cuts and mixtape freestyles but the gloves came off last week and it’s been bare-knuckle bangers ever since. Aubrey and Terrence are on it and the disrespect is on Biblical levels. It feels like 2003 all over again. Sumit and Chris love detail but they love conflict too. It’s been a busy couple of weeks in Hip Hop and it seems like people want smoke. If that’s the case, then they have the matches. In a classic tale of the tape encounter, Sumit and Chris spar with each other and analyse what makes this battle so intriguing. Of course, they dissect the bars but in true surgical style, they pick apart other important issues that have arisen in this conflict like fatherhood, blackface, marriage, sexism and women ending up as collateral damage in rap squabbles. You see, it’s not just about who had the better song. There’s levels to this and Sumit and Chris put the pieces together like Tetris. Does Drake really have a secret love child? How on Earth did Pusha T get all this information? Who wants it with J. Prince?* *Nobody

Tom, Buri (The FamCast) & I discuss the Pusha T - Drake beef. Like many rap artists, Drake is no stranger to beef. But the latest involving Pusha T and his killer new diss track, “The Story of Adidon,” has left some fans and onlookers scratching their heads. Why was Drake in blackface? Where did Pusha get that photo? Does Drake really have a secret love child? And what’s all this about invoices and fashion wars, again? Vox Follow me on Instagram @QTheNurse https://www.instagram.com/qthenurse/

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Kanye has got the world on fire....Is it for album sales or something deeper? Would you enter a "Air Humping" contest?? How dumb is Ben Carson really? Does Drake really want problems with Kendrick Perkins?? We discuss these topics and so so much more!! Check out Earlpheus' album "30430" on soundcloud NOW!!

Preview for next week, Is Nick Saban related to Braun Strowman, Buying a genie in a bottle, Does Drake miss J Lo, Beau found a new use for a Wii remote, Netflix/Hulu recommendations, New music recommendations, We went on an adventure Saturday, NXT Takeover predictions, and Royal Rumble predictions Outro: "Falling Apart" - Trust Company

On today's episode, we continue our ongoing search to find Young & Happy's very own Soundcloud rapper.  We also get into all the latest news.  Is Snoop Dogg doing porn?  Does Drake really love BBW's?  And is Connor McGregor & Rita Ora's love causing ASAP Rocky to fight English people?  All that and more.  This is Young & Happy.

Episode 152 of Mic'd Up Toronto. Mic’d Up Toronto’s street cred is sky high.  And after today’s episode, it’s only going to get higher (at least that’s what we tell ourselves).  Topics on the agenda include: -Racist video game: A mobile game called ‘Dirty Chinese Restaurant’ has been cancelled due to complaints of racism.  We discuss whether this game that plays off of some negative Chinese stereotypes should be banned or if this is another case of people overreacting. -Drug dealer struggles: Drug dealers could be charged with manslaughter if they are caught selling any drugs that contain fentanyl.  Is it fair to have such severe punishments or is this totally unreasonable and inconsistent? -No snitching: Toronto’s very own Drake has been criticized for not speaking up and encouraging witnesses to come forward after his friend was murdered in a Scarborough apartment.  Does Drake have a responsibility to speak up and raise awareness or should the police just take care of their own business?  We debate this and so much more!   Credit for intro music: Fireworks by Jahzzar From the free music archive CC - BY – SA

Marv & YaYa debate music! Does Drake have a classic rap album? Do Hip Hop need sub genre's? Listen to this fiery debate and chime in what you think! Tweet us @Politickingpod Marv has a new book coming April 4th, preorder MarvCritt.com Twitter: www.twitter.com/politickingpod FB: www.facebook.com/politickingpod mypolitickingpodcast.net @YaYaschool @MarvCritt

*south kongress t-shirts available at https://teespring.com/southkongress * *albums/songs had to be released between 10/1/15 and 10/1/16 to be considered* It took a LONG time, but it's finally here. I got 4 of my closest friends together, and tried to settle on the very best music of 2016. 2 women, 2 men from different areas and backgrounds (the arguing starts in the first six minutes) try to find common ground on songs and albums. Part 1 Highlights: - The value of 'Lemonade' as an album, and a message - Can Rihanna... sing? - "Drippin (How U Luv That) - Future - WE WILL NOT LET TRAVIS SLANDER "MARCH MADNESS"!!! - My Jon B prejudice comes out to play - Dirty Macking reaches it's musical peak in 2016 - 112 vs. Jagged Edge for the crown of Atlanta - Pusha T's placement and Fabolous' timelessness - DVSN as an extension of 'So Far Gone' - Chance the Rapper is hungry. Feed Chance! - Half the panel calls 'Views' disappointing. Because it is. - Does Drake have a better album than 'So Far Gone'? - TLOP starts, and finish strong. The middle though... - Adele let us down??!?!!? - Love and Hip-Hop makes an appearance! - The NYC Trap Sound

Armond & Doc continue on this week by going in-depth on the Drake & Meek Mill beef as only Clock Radio Speakers can. Does Drake have ghostwriters? Can Meek fight back? They cover this and a lot more.