Podcast appearances and mentions of mackenzie bezos

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So who boycotted and who just didn’t get invited? Yes, we’re rounding out the Met Gala gossip with a rundown of protests (SJP?), basic-b*tch heartbreak (Hugh & Sutton) and bathroom selfies (alllll the hot ones). VOTE FOR US: Help Out Loud win the People’s Choice category of the Australian Audio Awards. Find the link to vote RIGHT HERE. Plus, who actually won in the finally-finished court battle of Lively vs Baldoni vs Lively? And what James Valentine’s Year Of Living Gratefully taught us about living (and dying) well. And, Cameron Diaz is a mum again at 53 and no-one is calling it a 'miracle!' Have we turned a page on older parents’ double standards? 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Speaker 1: But first, Amelia Lester, the Mecgala. Speaker 3: Did it feel different this year? A lot of people said that it did. Amy Odell, a fashion writer, wrote in her background newsletter that the Metgala was all money, no soul, and she wasn't alone in this criticism. Basically, people are saying that because Jeff Bezos and his wife Lauren Sanchez Bezos sponsored the event, it just started to feel a little craven, a little gross, and less fun than it used to be. So there were a lot of protests in New York. In the lead up to the event, they were all centered around Amazon's labor practices, its environmental damage. And then there are those who say, no, that's not true. The mech color's always been about rich people giving their money towards a good cause, which is the Metropolitan Museum's Costume Institute. And look, they did raise a lot of money on Monday night. The Bezos has bought the event for about ten million dollars, but then the event itself raised about forty one million. This is US dollars, which is a lot for this event. It's apparently kind of record breaking. So are we just complaining about nothing, Holly? Do you feel like celebrities stayed away? Did they agree that this was a sort of off event this year? Speaker 1: So I'm going to give you a list of the celebrities who people say boycotted, because none of the people so far who everyone is saying has boycott had actually verbalized that they were boycott. Speaker 3: Well, we are boycotted, which we just had to take a stand because. Speaker 1: I do feel a little bit like what soul when you said it's all money those salt like, I do feel a bit that I don't think this is the first year. It has been pointed out in the culture, particularly since trump Ism and all those things, that this feels very hunger games. Yes, yes, and I know although there's a more direct link here, you know, with the Bezos is buying it. I do feel like Jeff sort of bought it for Lauren as a gift, which is a nice gift. Nice, but it feels more avert. So anyway, let's look at this because when I was watching it on Tuesday and then I did a subscriber episode with me as straight afterwards, I was like, well, all the celebrities are there, like Beyonce's there. All the famous people I was expecting to be there were there. Speaker 2: Well, actually a lot of famous feom we didn't expect to be there were there. Speaker 1: Yeah. And then it was pointed out to me who was not Billie Eilish. Now that tracks because she doesn't like billionaires, and she remembers she gave a speech a while ago where she said, you lot give more of your money away. So I don't think she would have been either welcome or willing to go, because Jeff might have worried that she was going to shake him down in the bathroom to share more of his money. Zoe Saldana, she is somebody who is usually there. She was not there. She is almost as rich as the billionaires. She is an unbelievably well paid actress because of her Marvel and Avatar connections. So Zoe's at home count of dollars. Olivia Rodrigo that tracks too. She is political, That would not be surprising. She's in the middle of an album promo, so you might have usually expected her to be there. Lady Gaga an interesting one because she could have been expected to be there because she's in The Devil Wears prior of Too and the rest of the Well. Meryl wasn't there, but Meryl never goes, so that's not surprising. But Anne Hath the way Emily Blunt Stanley Tucci were all there. Speaker 2: Stanley Tucci with Emily blount sister, it's always fun. Speaker 1: So maybe Gaga, but also she's kind of said lately that she's going to focus on promoting things she wants to promote rather than just being around. Lewis Hamilton come on, like he's literally dating Kim Kardashian, who's extremely bezos adjacent. I don't think that was a political. Speaker 3: Let's get to the big guns. Some were missing, right, some who we might have realized. Sarah Jessica Parker. Speaker 1: Yeah, so, Sarah Jessica I reckon. That is probably I would say that's almost definitely a boycott. But she went to support Anna at a dinner, but she didn't. Speaker 3: Go to the There was a dinner on the weekend before the gala. It probably would have been more fun. Speaker 1: Anyways, she said anything, No, she hasn't, but she I think she was in support of the New New York mayor. Right, And obviously he didn't go, but then I wouldn't have expected him to go, and he did post about it. They posted a series of let's sell a the real heroes of fashion and you know, celebrated workers behind the scenes and particular designers and things. So yes, so Sarah Jessica Parker I reckon could be a boycott. But then they're saying, you know, j Lo, I don't think Jalo was boycotting. I just think she's tired. Speaker 3: Harry Styles. Speaker 1: Harry Styles is in the middle of record of rehearsing for his tour. He's in a studio in bethnal Green running through it. Not that I've been stalking him. Justin Bieber, he's just done Coachella. Boy needs to lie down. Miley Taylor Swift, she never goes, and I don't think she's so. I think that some of the boycott cots are not boy I. Speaker 3: Think that's right. But it's interesting that some of the tech billionaires it clearly got to them a little bit. So it's interesting that Jeff did not walk the red carpet with Lauren. That's very unusual. They do everything together. We've learned this from various pieces about them and Lauren's dress being very boring. Do we think that was intentional. Speaker 1: A little bit understated for Lauren, Yeah, but I think it was had a very specific art reference. It was the same dress as someone called Madame X and it's like scandalous women. Speaker 3: Yep. It's interesting though, because Jeff did walk the carpet in twenty thirteen when Amazon sponsored the event. There was no outrage back then when Amazon sponsored the event and he walked with Mackenzie then Mackenzie Bezos his wife at the time. Mark Zuckerberg also made his Met Gala debut with his wife, Priscilla Chan, and they also didn't walk the red carpet, which I thought was interesting because it's kind of like, well, you want to be at the glamorous event, but you don't want the attention of being there. Speaker 1: Do you think they might have been encouraged not to. Speaker 3: I don't think anyone encourages Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos to do anything would have worked exactly. But there were some tech willionaires who did walk the carpet. Google founder Sergei Brinn. He showed up on the red carpet with his girlfriend. Her name is Gaylyn Gilbert Soto. The New York Times describes her as a con conservative gut health influencer. Speaker 1: That is one of the six job title Claire. Speaker 3: Do you think that there's something inherently conservative about gut health? Speaker 2: Yeah, because gut health is very don't take antibiotics and don't take antibiotics is very That's what it's. Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, which used to be a sort of crunchy hippie vibe, but these days has come back around it. Speaker 3: I thought it was just you know, drink your com your chart, but no, it means it can. Speaker 2: Be very I feel like there's it's a short road from like gut health gut health to to anti vacs. Don't ever give your children antibiotics with my sour crow. Speaker 3: And of course I'm AROUNDA was there. I just have to add she was there with Snapchat founder Evanstein on the carpet, of course. Speaker 1: Possibly the biggest gun that I haven't mentioned though, is Zendaya. She does always go. Usually she didn't go, and that read like a boycott. And some people are saying, if your boycotting, say you're boycotting. I don't think so necessarily. You don't want to necessarily make everything about your politics. But I just have one question. I think that big charity galas of all types have always been, have always reflected the moment therein and they've always been a path to accessing status in a particular society. Watch the Gilded Age, It's all about that. Speaker 3: And Nixon notably said that she thought it was great that the mayor didn't go. Speaker 1: Yes, but like you know, you're reflecting the time. So you're going a big gala ball is the way you get all the fancy people together. This being a tech bro billionaire ball is very reflective of the moment we're living in, right, So is it surprising in any way in the nineteen eighties New York society. It was all about glitz and flash and Donald Trump, and now we're like again, I don't know. I kind of feel like, what did we expect to happen? Speaker 3: No, that's right, But I think that the group that people are most angry at it's not the people who went in their pretty dresses. It's not the people who didn't go and stay quiet about it. It's the people who went but then tried to have their cake and eat it too. See. Speaker 2: I'm not as frustrated about this because Sarah Paulson is getting a hole at a crap because she wore a dress that then and then had a blindfold that was a dollar bill, and it was people like it's making a statement about about like eating the rich. Speaker 3: Well, she herself said that it was a statement about the one. Speaker 2: Besides yes, and and I thought that was like a far swing. But the dress is actually called like the one percent by the artist, the designer who designed it, and the mask was called blinded by Money, and it was a statement on greed and corruption that comes with extreme power. I think it's a little bit unfair to look at her and say, well, you've got a net worth of twelve million dollars at which how does anyone calculate anyone's net worth on the internet? But you have a net worth of that you're at this event, how dare you then make a protest when it's like, well, isn't that exactly how how you do it? Speaker 3: Don't you go in? And well, people do have a history of using that platform. So Alexandra Ocazio Cortez, who is a Democratic congresswoman from New York, famously wore a dress on the Megala red carpet a couple of years ago which said tax the rich. But people actually have the same criticism for her. To your point, Holly, the met Gala in some corners has always been seen as a kind of repulsive show of excess and decadence, and she got a lot of aoc got a lot of flak for even attending the event back then, reading the canapasey while saying. Speaker 1: You guys are discussing while Charlie free directions. Speaker 2: But if you're not there, you don't have a microphone to say anything about the event, do you know? Well, I guess you do. I guess like Vende could opposed to something on Instagram. Speaker 3: If you want Zendaya not going definitely took the air out of the room when that announcement came out, And I guess it wasn't an announcement so much as a news update. Everyone kind of went, that's big. When Zendeia's not there, it's big. Speaker 2: Because she's always one of the coolest on the carpet. Does something really original, remember that, like bloody light up dress and she. Speaker 3: Oh, but there was a bathroom selfie. Some things always stay the same, right, and you saw this by Yes, it's always an iconic bathroom selfie. It's always the thing you want to look for. And there was an amazing one that had you know, the Margo Robbie all the people in it. But one of the things that was most striking about that And so I saw that in the wild last night and I was like, why is there an exceptionally beautiful woman in the middle of that who is wearing a quarter zip sweatshirt? I was like, was she at that party? Speaker 1: And then it's having a lot of headlines today because she is actually a very famous model. Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually love the story behind this. Her name is Bavitha Mandava and she that what she wore was a quarterzip jumper essentially and what looked like jeans. It turns out they weren't just any jeans. The jeans were made with silk muslin and had a blue denim effect. My jeans today have a blue denim effect. And it's a very important iconic look because she opened Chanell's show in December, which was on the New York City Subway, wearing essentially that outfit, and the fashion world lost their mind. That show was like considered extremely groundbreaking, and she was the first Indian model to open a Chanel show and she is now the first South Asian ambassador for Chanel. And incidentally, did you notice that Margot Robbie, who was also Chanel ambassador, It was right next to her in that photo. So Chanell must have been just so happy about the whole thing. Speaker 1: I know, but it just she just looked so out of place. Speaker 3: But that's what made it so good. Speaker 1: Yeah, but I was like wandered into the shop. But she also read all about it and I was amazing. Yet she didn't have to have a bubble machine boobs. Speaker 3: And then that look that she wore on the Chanel catwalk was actually a nod in turn to how she was discovered. I love this so much. She was a grad student m YU and she was discovered on the New York City subway waiting for a train. One would imagine probably wearing a similar outfit to the one she is now wearing in a much more fabulous incarnation at the metgala. Speaker 1: But you were obsessed with another red carpet walk. Speaker 2: Yes, because I am a basic bitch. If, like I swear, if there was like a thermometer for like, what's what does the basic bitch think about anything that's happening in the world right now? It comes over me and it's like bing bing bing bing bing because I saw the red carpet photos of Hugh Jackman in Suton Foster and I think I was sitting opposite you and Holly and I. Speaker 3: Said, oh oh, was like I don't and I'm like, howm my. Speaker 1: Here has it been? Speaker 3: Now? Not that many at least well he was. Speaker 2: Hugh Jackman was on the Red carpet with Debory Furnace in twenty twenty three. Speaker 3: My group chats are very divided on this. Some love the two of them together and some are talking about deb Prowley. Speaker 1: Do you have to not debut your relationship after a divorce five years, ten years? What do we want? Speaker 2: There are no rules, but I am allowed to go oh poor deb Oh, no, I hate that I am allowed. And then the tabloids, because again I'm a basic bitch. The tabloids were like, hey, basic bitches, We've made up a story for you. So there are sources in Inverata commas who say that Debrale Furnace was a huge fan of the event and the decision to bring Sutton Foster was a final blow to deb And what I didn't realize when I went really deep on this was some Foster's wearing a ring, like they think that you proposed in January and they think they're going to have some trend in your wedding. Speaker 1: And is that all are not allowed? He's not allowed to marry again, not ever, not ever. Speaker 3: I I don't know about that. Speaker 1: How do you know that, Deborah Lee Furness. This is what I don't like about this narrative is it victimizes a woman who maybe is totally done with that, you know what I mean. She obviously she made up some statements that made it clear she was not happy when that relationship broke down, But again three years ago, so now she might be living her absolute best life. Thank god I don't have to go to the met gala with that guy. Speaker 3: She disagrees politically too. We don't know anything about it, like she was kind of famously a conservative political voice because he is the godparent of Rupert Murdock and Wendy Dang's children. Also, he's very close with Avanka Trump. So no one was surprised to see Hugh at the slightly maga codd metgala. Speaker 1: Oh wow, he's unfair, And I know no one's crying for the celebrities, but I think it's unfair to brand everybody who was at that red carpet as maga. Speaker 3: Co Oh no, no, no, I did too, But I just I'm saying that he's not exactly Alexandra Orcasio Cortez. No one would be expecting him to make a big political statement about the taxing the rich. No, he's very like to promote. Speaker 1: In a moment, what the heck was all that Baldoni Lively business about? If we've both basically ended with nobody winning and no money changing hands. So moments before one Blake Lively swept onto the met gala carpet looking a bit like Cinderella, very trademark minus the bluebird. She didn't happen. She always said exactly body, She's pretty good all that stuff. But moments before that, a statement dropped into the inboxes of major press outlets, including People, New York Times and so on, and it read the end product the movie. It ends with Us is a source of pride to all of us who worked to bring it to life. And with no context, Everyone's like, why are we reading this? Raising awareness and making a meaningful impact in the lives of domestic violence survivors and all survivors is a goal that we stand behind. It becomes clear this is a joint statement from Blake Lively's team and Justin Baldoni's team about the court case we've all been obsessed about for years. We acknowledge the process, presented challenges, did it. Speaker 3: Recollections and recognized concerns raised by mes Lively deserved to be heard. Speaker 1: We remain firmly committed to workplaces free of improprieties and unproductive environments. This is one of those statements that so many lawyers were involved in drafting that it. Speaker 3: I hate an unproductive environment and I'm with that. Speaker 1: That's fair. It is our sincere hope that this statement brings closure and allows all involved to move forward constructively and in peace, including a respectful environment online. And in the hope of moving forward constructively and in peace, Blake goes to the met gal Yeah, yep. Now we'll get to whether or not they got their respectful environment online, But just a very quick catch up, because we would be here for a year if we went into all the ins and outs of what's been going on here. But it all started when Blake Lively. Do I need to explain who she is? Significant star actress, possessor of wonderful hair, one half of a very powerful Hollywood power couple, made a movie called It Ends with Us, based on one of the best selling books in the past decade by Colleen Hoover. Speaker 2: And you guys are weird about it because I said this morning that it's objectively one of the worst movies I've ever seen. And you guys, it's fine. You guys were so mad well. I didn't stop you so mad well. Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to that in a minute. The thing is is that making a movie based on one of the best selling books of the decade is smart business and lots of people wanted to do it. But the man who owned the rights was Justin Baldoni, who's a lesser known dude. He's an actor, producer, self proclaimed feminist. Done. Some Ted talks about it. Speaker 3: Everything I know about this man I've learned against my will exactly done. Speaker 1: Some Ted talks about it podcast with Liz Plank something something something. Anyway, the movie itself is about domestic balance. That is not a mystery or a surprise at his front and center in the plot. The movie got made, and the movie was a huge hit, proving Claire Stephens wrong. Speaker 3: All I need to say. Speaker 1: Against the modest production budget of twenty five million, it grossed around three hundred and fifty one million dollars. Huge movie, right, But before the hit part happened, obviously, it was obvious that things were for apart. Behind the scenes, everything had gone very very wrong. We're not going to take you through because again I know Klas Stevens has a PowerPoint on this somewhere. You It went very deep at the time. You were a great source of it. Speaker 3: It was great. A lot of this was going down. Speaker 2: I think maybe just as I submitted my books, and my reward to myself was finish your book and you can read all the legal poculars. Speaker 1: Yes, and there was this press tour that was like separate red carpets and warring factions and all this stuff. And then in December twenty twenty four, Lively sued Baldoni, accusing him of harassment, sexual misconduct, and a smear campaign on the set of their movie. She claimed that Baldoni conspired with publicists to preemptively destroy her reputation, hence the dodgy press tour after she privately accused him of sexually harassing her on the movie set. There were a lot of damning texts released, all hell broke loose. Then Baldoni countersued. He basically alleged that Lively and her husband Ryan Reynolds always wanted to take over this movie, the control of the script, to the edit, all the things that they had it in for him, and they used their very famous friends to intimidate and harass him. Speaker 3: I'll never forget the email that when unanswered, that she sent to Matt Damon. Speaker 1: Oh, I know. There were a lot of damning texts revealed. Speaker 2: Again, sorry, the one to Ben Affleck where she like, oh, she just made an awkward joke about how she had sent the email to Matt Damon and how great Matt Damon was, and I was like, honey, that's like Ben Affleck's biggest point of in security is comparing himself to Matt Damon and you don't know the idiots and your correspondence with Ben. Speaker 1: And so here we are suddenly, just weeks before this mess was all going to go to court, all these cases have been it. Speaker 3: Hadn't even gone to court. Speaker 1: No, some things had been dropped dropped. So first of all, Baldoni's case against Lively got dropped, and some elements of Lively's case against him got like so there was all that was stuff, but it was it was meant to go to court I think on May eighteen, so soon. Wow, And days before it's been disappeared. Lawyers have made millions, reputations have been trashed and nobody apparently no money exchanged hands between the two parties, and no one, as you as evidenced by that really confusing press release, nobody is saying that they've won or not. Claire does the fact that Blake Lively stepped onto the met Gala carpet the minute that happened signaled that she sees this as victory or that she'd liked to pretend the whole thing didn't happen, And how the hell does she move forward? Speaker 3: Yeah, Claire, what does that mean that she shot up at the Metgala? Speaker 1: One? Speaker 2: I think it's genius. I always think that the best publicity in response to this stuff is to be around and change the narrative, like changing a different direction. Celebrities are so clever that it is no coincidence that this statement came out when it did and that then she was on a red carpet, because you just you know that there's so much going on in the world. People are going to be all the celebrity reporters are going to be distracted, just like the zones. Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And. Speaker 2: It's the same reason it always happens. When I was editor in chief, the local Australian celebrities would always announce their breakup at like five pm on a Friday, and it's like, you know. Speaker 3: The journals have gone to drinks or boxing day. Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, we've gone to drinks, you know that West Skeleton stuff on the weekends. Speaker 3: We're not going to go as hard on this story. Speaker 2: So I think it was smart that it was released when it was, and it was smart that she turned up at the met gala and that she reminded everyone I look really good in address. Speaker 1: You to figure but disagree because what immediately happened the minute she opened her mouth. Speaker 2: Well, this is what's interesting that depending on your algorithm, and depending on what side of the Internet you're on, there are two very different stories. So on certain apps, the story I'm saying is this was a win for Blake Lively that, for example, the line at the end of that statement including a respectful environment online, that that was very much acknowledging what had happened to her, which was all the allegations about manufactur orchestrated campaign. Speaker 1: Because that is the thing that I will take away from this mess the most, is that seeing the messages between Baldoni's press people and him about ways that you can use and manipulate social media to dent somebody's reputation is not just like when you see suddenly start seeing everywhere lots of tiktoks around of like, look at this interview with this person, doesn't she come across a bit like this but there can be a lot more behind it. And this is also things that we pointed out about amber Hood joining the amber Hood Johnny deppcayse that there can be a really orchestrated dark arts going on there, and certainly the examples that were pinging back and forward between Justin Baldoni and his reps suggested that I knew that. Speaker 2: Yeah, And so there's there's a lot of arguments that that line in particular is about what she went through, because she really has been torn apart on the internet. However, I couldn't believe that she turns up at the met Gala. She there's she clearly you could actually tell from her speaking when she was interviewed that she was nervous, that she was trying, like, I can't put my foot in it. Speaker 3: I can't like that. Speaker 2: There have been viral interviews of her for a couple of years now all over the Internet of her just saying slightly the wrong thing in an interview, and it becomes that she's an awful person. Blake Lively did an interview on the met Gala red carpet and it has been analyzed to death, and people think she was rude to the interviewer in this instance, well, you look gorgeous. Speaker 4: I am wearing Jackson weederhot gorgeous, thank you beautiful hair. She yeah, you look studying. And this is archival versace, but they met a fid it by adding a big beautiful train. So it's a piece from two thousand and six. And it was just such an honor to be able to wear this gorgeous, gorgeous gown. It looks like a sunrise and a sunset and watercolor and gorgeous range shworts, jewelry. But this this, but these, this is a Judith leberbag. And we were trying to find a piece of famous iconic art to put on and make it look like it was in a frame. And then I said, would you actually, if you're gonna make it custom, would you do my kid's art? So my kids each painted a painting, a watercolor painting. So each of my four kids did this. Speaker 1: That is so spoo especial. Speaker 4: So I have them with me. Speaker 2: And that has been interpreted as her being a bit, as her being dismissive, as her being self scentered. The other thing that's been I think we want to know what this is. Speaker 1: So here's my challenge to your strategy, be public, give them things to talk about, because she can't get away from this narrative now for some time, it's been years of her lit like every time she opens her mouth. There's a lot of people invested in you're a terrible person, as you say, so they're just going to find ways to say that over and over again. In the way that the Internet is now very invested in hating Blake Lively a certain so, just in the way that the internet's very invested in hating Megan Markele. It doesn't matter what she does, what she says, where she goes. You can't win that game. Speaker 2: One of the great arguments was it costs one hundred k for a plate at the Met gala, and part of her claim was the financial stress caused by Baldoni smear campaign. And it's like she's not paying for that one hundred k plate, neither is anyone people being like I thought you were arguing you were locked out of Hollywood. Speaker 3: Doesn't look like you're locked out of Hollywood. Speaker 2: And she had a bag where her interpretation of the art theme was that she got her four kids to draw a picture on each side of the back no self centered, made it about you. Speaker 3: You wanted to. Speaker 2: Claim authorship over this event, So there are people. Speaker 1: This is why I think her best strategy is to go away for a few years. Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think the weird thing is I think if Justin Baldoni had turned up, I think there's something, there's an anonymity that we give men that we just don't give women like I just don't think he is going to be plagued in the same way. And I think it's Marina Hyde who says he'll probably do some low budget it. Speaker 1: Will definitely have dented his possibilities of becoming a big name. I think that because, as Marina Hyde says in that story in The Guardian, she wrote a column about this, saying that the overarching lesson of this whole thing is never ever go to court, never ever ever. And they didn't actually end up in court, but still is that for the rest of time. Their names are now linked, every interview, every pro file, every project they do. This will always be part of the story in a way that it wouldn't if it hadn't entered the courts. But when I say I think go away free, I don't mean disappear like I don't mean silencing women. I mean work on projects, work on producer projects, hustle behind the scenes, do all your hollywoody stuff until you can come back to address this with more nuanced Look at Lena Dunnan. We've been talking about that a lot lately. Famously one of the most hated women on the internet for a period of time, couldn't put a foot right, couldn't do anything right, opened her mouth, everybody jumped on her. We know how the culture treats women who speak out about all kinds of things. There are local examples of this too. In a way. You've got to like let the air out of it and then come back when there's some nuance and distance. Speaker 3: You know what I mean That her while best friend Taylor Swift would have told her that too, because Taylor, of course also famously disappeared and was getting around in large boxes for a while just to stay out of the public eye. That comment of Marina Hides about never go to court is interesting because a few years ago, someone in a professional context did something to me that made me want to take them to court, and so I went to talk to a lawyer about it, who have been recommended to me, and the lawyer heard me out. I was very grateful for the advice she gave me. She said, look, I think you have a strong case, but if you did this, everyone in your field would say that you were a nightmare, no matter what happened in the court case, no matter how right you are, and I do think you're right, it would affect you professionally and it would follow you professionally for the rest of your life. And I think getting that advice from someone who had kind of a monetary gain to taking the case on was something I really appreciated. And I just wonder if Blake Lively's legal advice turned out to be deeply misguided. Speaker 1: I know. The sad thing about this argument I've never taken to court is, of course, that women putting up with sexual harassment at work are just always this guy from ever doing anywhere with it, because you're going to get your character smeared. And it might be on the scale of a Blake Lively, or it might be just the local gossip at the football club, like whatever it is, and that it's like we've seen this play out in massive letters across the sky that watch out, women will get you one way or another, and whether or not Blake Lively is particularly likable, is always nice to everybody? Blah blah blah, isn't the point? Speaker 2: Yeah, it is quite scary for women knowing that if you pursue, which is what an element of what Blake Lively was pursuing, a sexual harassment claim, that all your texts will be looked over and mocked and made fun of. Like, that's a really scary cost to pay. After the break James Valentine and why everyone's talking about the concept of a living wake. On the twenty second of April of this year, cast out musician and author James Valentine died age sixty four, leaving behind his son, his daughter, and his wife. The ABC veteran had terminal cancer, and he was widely loved by his audience, who had been listening to him for three decades. He had been transparent over the last two and a half years about his health. He was a very talented saxophone player and anyone who grew up in the eighties in Australia probably knows him as part of the band The Models and their iconic songs Barbados and Out of Mind, Out of Sight, and he was a Sydney radio presenter. Emilia and Holly, what was your connection to James Valentine as a radio personality? Speaker 3: He was a really important figure in my childhood. He hosted a thing called the Afternoon Show on ABC when back when there were forty TV channels in this country. I remember those days, and he would host and it was cartoons, it was variety. And I never really listened to him on the radio, but I have such you know, in the way that those childhood figures loom large for you. I've always held such fondness and affection for him. And how about you, Hollie. Speaker 1: He's clearly just an incredibly skilled communicator. I mean, I would be lying if I said I listened to that show. But anyone who knows how radio works, how the ABC works, so many people I know who know him. He was just clearly exceptionally good at what he did and very loved. Speaker 2: It's a reminder I think that parasocial relationships have existed long before the Internet. The fact that when the news of his death came out there was a widespread kind of public grieving and a lot of listeners who called in the next day, and his wife and his kids were kind of saying how much that meant to have people remember their dad through sense of humor and his energy. So two and a half years ago he was diagnosed with esophagal cancer and he was given two different treatment options, and he chose the one that was a bit less invasive and would preserve the things he loved in life, which were presenting radio, playing saxophone and enjoying food. Then in January of this year, he's given a terminal diagnosis and his response to that diagnosis and what he planned to do next was documented in Monday's episode of Australian Story, presented by Lee Sales, and it started a huge conversation about the concept of a living wake, which he very fittingly held on Valentine's Day of this year. Here's what he said on the show stage. Speaker 5: Four, terminal, inoperable, uncurable. I don't want to hear any of those words, let alone in the one sentence. So a friend suggested Tommy, maybe you should do a living wake, and oh, that sounds like fun. I will know the time and the day and so it'll be the last weekend. What do you do on that last weekend's dinner? Before? What do you think is that the last meal, I will probably know exactly when I'm going. Speaker 1: That's so moving. So seeing the footage of his reference at the end there was due to the fact that he ultimately chose the time he was going to die, right. Speaker 2: Yeah, he chose voluntary assisted dying and was very transparent around how he made that decision and what that decision entailed. For context, voluntary assisted dying is legal in all states in Australia and the Act except the Northern Territory, and obviously it's an incredibly complex and incredible, incredibly personal decision that has sparked. It's sparking more and more conversation the more we have and aging population and the more people are getting certain diagnoses that may keep them alive for a very long time, but the quality of that life may be poor, and him kind of taking people through that decision was a huge part of the Australian story. But it meant that he got to plan this living wake and there's footage of it, and he's got his family and friends there and there are so many familiar ABC faces and he's really good friends with Norman Swan, who he had on radio to discuss his diagnosis, like what all the different parts of the body were and what they did. And there was something so moving about seeing him on stage with a microphone at his own wake, basically saying, please come up to me and tell me stories and memories about us, because they are what's going to carry me through the next few weeks. And I guess I thought it must be such a relief for his family that then when you do a funeral, he's heard all the beautiful things that you're then going to say about him. I think this is really something we should we should all be looking at. Speaker 1: If it's possible, this episode of Australian Story is really recommended viewing. I think, whether you know who James Valentine is or not, in a world where we hate to talk about death, and yet it touches everybody obviously, I mean that's a ridiculous thing to say, but it does touch everybody. I'd lost a friend to this same cancer when he was only forty six. It's like all cancers. It's a it's it's cruel and the idea that we're also we don't like talking about illness, we don't like talking about death, and seeing somebody such a skilled communicator like James Valentine in this episode talking about why he wanted to do the things he did, and they document the year so very like him talking about how very much clarified for him that he loved his work, so he didn't want to stop working. He loved playing his saxophone, so he wanted to try and avoid procedures that were going to stop him from doing that. That he really wanted to work, play and be with his family, and those are the things he wanted to spend his last year doing. It's just it's very powerful, it's very clarifying. And then to see him at his living way and he says, you know, it wakes People always say, oh, he would have loved me there, and he says, so I wanted to be there, And I just think it's very refreshing. I think, you know, I, as I said, I didn't have a direct listenership with Joe's Valentine, but people who do, and people I know who've worked with him said he brought joy all the time. And it feels like a gift to give be so honest and so open and so clear eyed in talking about this thing that nobody wants to talk about. Is like the last incredible gift that a great communicator could give, and his family is so amazing in it. I really recommend watching the show. Speaker 2: There's a great quote in one of the ABC articles about his kind of decision making towards towards the end, where I think, as a psychologist says, dying people are not the actual act of dying is not the thing they're most scared of. They're scared of the invisibility and the absence of conversation around it. They're scared of people turning away and not wanting to be around them because of how confronting it is. And this was just such a reminder to look it straight in the eye and have the existential conversations with the people around you. The way that he spoke to his kids, and his kids were able to say, what do you think is going to happen afterwards? Speaker 3: And I bet that that's so much harder to do than even it looks. It doesn't look easy, but I bet it's even harder to actually enact these principles that we can all agree are worthwhile. Speaker 1: I love that his kids say that this was perfect for him in particular, this living weight, because he loved being center of attention. He loved a party, He loved being told I'm brad he was. I love the way they you know that families are really kind of I mean, I'm sure no families are perfect, but they're really healthy and loving when they can just call out that stuff about you and be like, he would love this because he just loves everybody tell him how great he is. Speaker 3: So good. Speaker 2: Yeah, And I loved that it wasn't a sanitized version because I think something I always bristle at is when you hear of somebody getting a terminal diagnosis or of you know, knowing that they're going to die. I bristle at the narrative of I guess almost toxic positivity that they're just like, well, I'm completely grateful and joyful. And then I feel for the people who don't have that response, which is completely bloody normal. But I loved there was a lot of light and shade in this. They talked about they went on a holiday, a family holiday to Bali, just before he was meant to get the surgery for his esophagus, and that the whole family's like, oh so bloody terrible holiday. Everyone was sick, everyone had covid Dad. Speaker 3: Had BALI belly like. It's sort of I like that. Speaker 2: In documenting this time, they've been able to show the highs and lows of what happened. But the nort Yeah, how normal it is. But the fact that he was able to do it his way, and that those conversations around what you want, what you don't want, they give so much empowerment in those in those final months and final days. Speaker 1: Something completely different. There was celebrity baby news this week that I must mark because it was interesting. Cameron Diaz and Benji Madden just welcomed their third child. And it's interesting because Cameron is fifty three. Now. When I say that, I don't mean it's interesting in that way of like, oh, miracle baby, how did she do that? Why did you do that? Cameron Diaz. They announced that their little boy had come. They announced what his name was. His name is Nortous and he joins Raddix and Cardinal, which are all just the most rock star names of all time. They announced it. They didn't give any more details than that. It is safe to assume just because Cam's been on a press tour lately, she's been quite visible on a tour for a movie called Outcome, So she's been very visible, and it's safe to assume possibly that she wasn't heavily pregnant during that time, so likely that a surrogate was involved, but none of our business. But the thing that I found really interesting and refreshing that I wanted to unpack a little bit here is I wrote an essay a while ago when Sienna Miller was on the Red Carpet with her beautiful baby bump at I think forty three, and saying how we're entering a bit of an era of agelessness because perhaps of fertility technology, because of the different options that are open to us now, because of Hollywood and the wellness world's obsession with longevity, that we're in a different era now when it comes to age and women and kids. And I think nothing illustrates that more clearly than the fact that there haven't been a whole waterfall of stories about like, oh my god, a mom at fifty three and how could she and why would she? And da da da da. Is that now we're much more kind of like in the way that we might be about a man becoming a father at fifty three, because if you remove the biological complication from the advance for chility technology and all those things. It isn't really any different than the guy who's been doing that forever. Yeah, am I right? Yeah? Speaker 2: No, I think so too. The interesting thing is, as well, when I've looked at this story, how old Benji Madam? Well, nobody ever, as I don't know, I don't know, why didn't I. Speaker 1: Google similar age? I think, well, let's find it happen. Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're seven, so being a little bit younger Benji's forty seven, bloody spring chicken. But I it's interesting because whenever I see pregnancy baby news, it's obviously the life stage. Speaker 3: I'man, I always google. Speaker 1: How old is how? Speaker 3: How old is that? Speaker 1: Money is she? Speaker 2: And you're right that we don't when we wouldn't blink an eye at a man having a child at fifty three. And obviously, if you want to think about any of the things that make rearing children. Speaker 3: Difficult, the older you get. Speaker 2: I mean, Amaran Diaz looks like a bloody pillar of health. She's gonna live forever, She's gonna live till she's undred. Speaker 3: Well, I think what's interesting is that you said no one will blink, and I about a man. I wonder if, now, because women are also having babies older, all of a sudden, we're starting to blink her eyes at men having babies older. Men were allowed to do it for all of human history, but now that women are starting to do it, we're starting to revisit the whole idea of older parents because. Speaker 2: We are interested, and there is actually more and more scientific research going into the health impacts of older because you know how, I'm called geriatric. Just for the record, I'm a geriatric mother. What age, I'm thirty five years old. No, they don't. They call it advanced material. Speaker 3: They definitely call it just it's kind of coolrophistic. Speaker 1: They definitely did call it geriatric though, when I had my second child at forty, I that's interesting. Speaker 2: But if they call Brent geriatric, no, but they should have done it because he's elderly, I think. Speaker 1: I think that's interesting. But then that also assumes. Speaker 3: Like the judgments creeping in for both sexes now, is what I'm saying. Speaker 1: Yes, and that assumes the idea about like we're becoming aware of the risks of older parents assumes assumes a lot about what might be going on here biologically. Yes, exactly, whereas if Cameron Diaz and Benji Madden and whoever else may be in their cohort are having are assessing all the risks, I'm sure they are. We know how health obsessed Hollywood is and making those choices, and there I think. I don't know that's interesting though, Amelia, where you say that that maybe the judgment, instead of fading away, just attaches itself to both genders. Speaker 3: Well, because I don't think it is just about biology. I think it would be we need to put on the table to not be disingenuous. That a lot of people listening to this may have a reaction of if you have a baby at a more advanced age, shall we say, in your fifties, you automatically do a bit of maths, and you think, well, when that child in school, Cameron Diaz will be sixty three. I don't know how old Benji Madden will because I'm not that good at maths, but he'll be also kind of old. And so I think that's one of the concerns that people are now voicing a little bit more when no one ever used to say, well, Mick Jagger is going to be so old when his kids graduate but now we are starting to say that or feeling perhaps feeling more comfortable to say that. Speaker 1: I think that's really interesting. But then I think in this privileged bubble that we're talking about, longevity is an obsession. So I think that that is also changing. This right is that people are thinking rightly, wrongly whatever that with all the right advances and all the right supplements and all the right that they're imagining themselves at seventy three, at this kid's twenty first, like leaping around, I'm doing yoga and pilate, particularly if they. Speaker 2: And Brian Johnson says he's got what is it the sperm of a twenty old? Think about that, man, Yeah, So I'm sure Cameron and Benji are having the same conversation. Speaker 3: So Cameron has remember she literally wrote a book about sort of how to be healthy as you get older, so she's this is clearly on her radar that she's sort of anticipating she will be living a long time. Speaker 1: That's always got time for on this Wednesday. Speaker 3: At births, deaths, any marriages, No. Speaker 1: There weren't any couples at the met gala, were they? They all went. Speaker 2: Solo boycotting, boycotting marriage on the metal, or. 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On this BONUS EPISODE of CASCADE OF HISTORY, we present audio from a live interview with Amazon founder Jeff Bezos at the Museum of History & Industry (MOHAI) in Seattle's Lake Union Park on October 11, 2013. Host and emcee is MOHAI director Leonard Garfield, who introduces then-Governor Jay Inslee. Then, Garfield and Bezos engage in a far-ranging conversation about innovation and Bezos' philosophy. The occasion was dedication of the Bezos Center for Innovation at MOHAI. Mr. Bezos and then-wife Mackenzie Bezos had earlier gifted MOHAI $10 million toward the project. CASCADE OF HISTORY is broadcast LIVE most Sunday nights at 8pm Pacific Time via SPACE 101.1 FM in Seattle and gallantly streams everywhere via space101fm.org. The radio station is located at historic Magnuson Park - formerly Sand Point Naval Air Station - on the shores of Lake Washington in Seattle. Subscribe to the CASCADE OF HISTORY podcast via most podcast platforms.

Why do women of all socio-economic backgrounds accumulate less wealth than men? Why do marital separations impoverish women while they do not prevent men from remaining or becoming wealthy? In her new book co-authored with Sibylle Gollac, The Gender of Capital: How Families Perpetuate Wealth Inequalities (Harvard University Press, 2023), Céline Bessière answers these questions, drawing from ethnographic observations and statistical analysis. The Gender of Capital shows that formal legal equality has not eliminated economic inequality between men and women. It illustrates the mechanisms through which women of all social classes lose financially when they divorce or inherit. Examples as diverse as those of the single mothers who joined the French “Yellow Vest” movement, the high-profile divorce of Jeff and MacKenzie Bezos, and the division of the estate of the Trump family demonstrate that capital is gendered. Bessière will discuss how class divisions and the patriarchal appropriation of capital reinforce one another. A professor of sociology at Paris–Dauphine University, visiting professor at NYU, senior member of the Institut Universitaire de France, Céline Bessière studies the material, economic, and legal dimensions of the family. In France, The Gender of Capital was also adapted into a graphic novel.

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Richies, with Thanksgiving last week, the holiday season has officially kicked off - and the season of giving is upon us! We love being on the receiving end of gift-giving, but it's also a great time to remind ourselves of how important it is to give back. And when it comes to generosity, some celebs are shining stars. Like John Cena, who recently set a record for fulfilling the most Make-A-Wish requests ever. In keeping with the holiday spirit, we're celebrating the stars who have a lot and give a lot!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jeden z naszych najlepszych odcinków: druga część podcastu o Manifeście Komunistycznym, w którym Amelia, Piotr i Krzyś śmieszkują i rozmawiają o tym, co ma wspólnego Extinction Rebellion, program "Nasz nowy dom" i Mackenzie Bezos, oraz o tym, czy marksizm jest naukowy. (Pierwsza część Manifestu już jest na tym kanale, tylko musicie sobie przescrollować do okolic 20. odcinka, bo to tak dawno było) SPIS TREŚCI: Intro 0:00​ Podsumowanie pierwszej części: 1:28​ Audiobook: 7:03​ Omówienie: 31:49 WSZYSTKIE NASZE LINKI (w tym drugi kanał): https://linktr.ee/LewyInteres To jest reupload Lewych Papierów sprzed prawie dwóch lat. Wszyscy troje (Amelia, Krzyś i Piotrek) brzmimy w nim młodo i niewinnie. Reupload, bo jakoś się Amelii uroiło we łbie rok temu, że będzie cały czas wrzucać Papiery, a potem się okazało, że wcale tak nie jest i drugi kanał leży odłogiem, więc go likwidujemy. Kolejne reuploady będą wpadały regularnie, ale nie ZBYT regularnie, żeby Wam nimi nie spamować. Potem drugi kanał zniknie. Sorry za te ciągłe zamieszania, ale jesteśmy krejzi i dżezi i funki i klawi haha i nie sposób przewidzieć, co zrobimy zar    

The Jeff Dahmer Show, Tom Brady & Gisele divorcing, Stuttering John loses, Elon Musk gives up & will buy Twitter, professional troll Kane West, more Mike Clarktober, Elisa Jordana check-in, and Greg Giraldo: The Dark Side of Comedy.We (were) #43. Thanks!Stuttering John loses his SiriusXM appeal... on his birthday. SAD!Ford stock is rocking.Our old friend Greg Giraldo was the latest to be featured on Dark Side of Comedy.The Fall of Jeffrey Dahmer continues. The comedy has been Netflix's biggest hit ever.Grab your EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal by going to nordvpn.com/dams to get up a Huge Discount off your NordVPN Plan + 4 months for free! It's completely risk free with Nord's 30-day money-back guarantee.Stockton, California has a serial killer on the loose. Anybody recognize this guy from his picture?Tom Brady and Gisele Bundchen have hired divorce attorneys. Antonio Brown wants to hook up with Gisele. Pete Davidson will probably nail her next.Kanye West trolls everyone by wearing a White Lives Matter shirt. Gigi Hadid is angry.Rich Chicks: Melinda French Gates is complaining about Bill Gates again. She's also giving chicks, and only chicks, $1B. MacKenzie Bezos removes that teacher from her charity.Brittney Griner's wife is going on CBS to yell about her wife.Former UCLA player, Jalen Hill, has died.Vladimir Putin keeps popping off about nukes, but nobody seems to care. Ukrainian drone footage of the war is crazy (NSFW).Herschel Walker's son is not a big fan of Herschel Walker. The Daily Beast is reporting that the pro-life Senate candidate has paid for a girlfriend's abortion.Drew learns about Rob Parker's unfortunate 2012 commentary. Rob is a stand-up comedian these days and has a show in Detroit this week.Adil Rami wants you to know how much he banged Pamela Anderson.Music: 'Hold Me Closer' is falling in the charts... thankfully. Lynne Spears continues to apologize to Britney Spears. Rage Against the Machine has canceled their North American tour.Elon Musk decides to buy Twitter again.No, that was not a fat suit... that was Whoopi Goldberg.Lena Dunham plans her funeral.Happy 5th-year anniversary #MeToo.Baseball: Aaron Judge is stuck at 61 (Post Show Editor Note: he hit 62). Albert Pujols cranked #703. Miguel Cabrera will play in 2023 even though no one wants him back. Spencer Torkelson is not very good at baseball. The corpse of Sister Jean threw out the first pitch at a Chicago Cubs game and someone added Javier Baez to it.Football: Jared Goff and TJ Hockenson are pretty good. The Detroit Lions cut their soccer-player kicker. Bobby Wagner destroyed a fan on the field. MSU football sucks. You can drink booze at every Big Ten stadium except the ones in Michigan.RIP Loretta Lynn.We call Elisa Jordana so she can wish Stuttering John a happy birthday and try to set up a future interview with Andy Dick.There are new pictures of The Beatles. Peace and Love did not save Ringo Starr from COVID-19.Clarktober rolls on with the 'Poo Corral'.Social media is dumb, but we're on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter (Drew and Mike Show, Marc Fellhauer, Trudi Daniels and BranDon).

In this latest episode, Jeff describes perhaps the craziest case he ever had: a conman, career criminal kept cooperating with the government and getting reduced sentences, even as the bodies piled up. Finally, the government's attempts to hide his past ended with a single mother getting a bullet to her head in Staten Island. Jeff also reports that NYC Mayor Eric Adams is insane — he thinks his dying city has a brand, and takes a dump on Kansas. Kamala Harris has spent a career putting Blacks in jail, yet now she thinks it's okay to give federal Florida hurricane relief to Blacks first because “equity.” Finally, Jeff gently points out that Amazon's Jeff Bezos' remarried ex-wife is getting divorced — and he has got to be laughing his ass off.

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Deshaun Watson's punishment, US kills Al-Qaeda leader, Chuck E. Cheese is racist too, Britney Spears book held up due to paper shortage, Prince Charles sketchy deals, Mystikal's rapes, Ana de Armas as Marilyn Monroe, Lollapalooza recap, and Trudi re-eulogizes Nichelle Nichols.Deshaun Watson has been suspended for 6 games. The NFL will act like they are going to appeal the decision.Ivana Trump has a pretty lonely and sad final resting place.The Donald is furious at the Brittney Griner trade proposals. Some people are questioning his definition of "loaded up".Trudi takes exception to our Nichelle Nichols eulogy. Nichelle cut her son out of her will because he couldn't wait to "sell her s#!t".Maz is on a cross-country family adventure.Will Smith is still really sorry. The apology video was one giant advertisement for Jaden Smith's stupid water company.Nate Burleson went from crashing cars (due to pizza) to anchoring CBS This Morning.Prince Charles loves money from the bin Laden's and shady Qatari politicians... Especially if it's cash in suitcases.We need to take a serious look at Deshaun Watson's 2022 Fantasy Football value.Political commercials are running overtime.Hard Knocks features the Detroit Lions and will debut on August 9th. Aidan Hutchinson is hazed. Jeff Okudah is trying not to be a total bust.Ray Lewis was suspended 0 games when he allegedly killed a guy.Mystikal (of 'Shake Ya Ass' fame) has been arrested for rape again.al Qaeda's leader Ayman al-Zawahiri has been killed by a CIA drone.The US backs Nancy Pelosi's trip to Taiwan.Jill Biden still calls herself a doctor but news outlets aren't doing so anymore.Ana de Armas is getting crap for playing Marilyn Monroe with a Cuban accent. Is this technically whiteface? With the NC-17 rating, we predict multiple Mr. Skin Awards.JLo's first husband, Ojani Noa, doesn't believe the marriage will last with her 4th husband, Ben Affleck.Look how hot Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez are together.Rob Lowe needed another podcast.Maya Rudolph is back and playing a MacKenzie Bezos rip-off in Loot.Gen Z know what they want and it includes John Hinckley Jr.Recession vs. Inflation.Customers are being really mean to Short's Brewing Company employees.Trudi is over the moon for orangutans with squirt guns.Chuck E. Cheese is in trouble for being racist just like Disney... and Sesame Place!Britney Spears has finished her book but the world has run out of paper to print it on. Britney is nude on social media again. She also went to a bar for the very first time.Grab your EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal by going to nordvpn.com/dams or use the code dams to get a HUGE Discount off your NordVPN Plan + 1 additional month for free + a bonus gift! It's completely risk free with Nord's 30-day money-back guarantee!Lollapalooza Chicago recap included a great Led Zeppelin cover by Porno for Pyros.New Beavis and Butt-Head episodes are dropping August 4th on Paramount+.Social media is dumb, but we're on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter (Drew and Mike Show, Marc Fellhauer, Trudi Daniels and BranDon).

Textin' Tiger Woods is back at The Masters, Jim Breuer joins the show, a judge rules the Packard Plant must go, Forbes richest list, Cracker Jill, defending Norbit, and we check in with Maz about selling Tiger tickets and his Spring Break shenanigans.Jim Breuer joins the show to promote his upcoming show at Greektown Casino's Music Hall Center. He has some pretty strong opinions on COVID & the vaccine. Check out his podcast right here.Drew dreads tax season.Spencer Torkelson remains BranDon's pen pal/stalker/fan girl.Coachella has replaced Kanye with The Weeknd and Swedish House Mafia. The Weeknd is making sure he gets paid Kanye money.Pete Davidson is North West's new father figure. Caitlyn Jenner adores Pete too. Kanye turns the tables and introduces the fake Kim K to his family.Forbes dropped their list of the richest people in the world. It includes MacKenzie Bezos and Melinda French Gates.Terrell Owens is joining Johnny Football and Fan Controlled Football. Amazingly, no one seems to remember when T.O. overdosed. Here's some athletes that lost a lot of money just like T.O. did.Fred Upton is walking away from Congress. We'll always remember these two big contributions to America. Others might remember his attack on morning radio.Andy Dick is doing a 24-hour live stream of whatever it is he is doing in Las Vegas.We have even more examples of famous people with 'hair tendrils'. It did wonders for Mick Hucknall.Phil Mickelson wants nothing to do with The Masters this year. Tiger Woods gets ALL the media attention.A judge demands that the Packard plant be demolished RIGHT NOW!Coach K is already teasing a comeback. He retired like 2 days ago.The star-studded LA Lakers have been eliminated from playoff contention. Here are some highlights of their season.The Sports Bra is up and running with their anti-men sports gimmick.Cracker Jack is now Cracker Jill. Play ball!Marc loves OmegaBall.August Alsina is capitalizing on 'The Slap' and making new content about nailing Will Smith's wife.Drew is viewing Magic Johnson "having fun getting Aids" situation with 2022 goggles.BranDon lists his favorite Whoopi Goldberg, Breckin Meyer and Cuba Gooding Jr. movies.Norbit has been pulled from HBO.Tom Mazawey has so many free Tiger tickets that he's selling them on Facebook. We chat with Tom about Opening Day, The Bottom Line on Woodward Sports, his daughters on Spring Break, and paying for subscriptions.Social media is dumb, but we're on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter (Drew and Mike Show, Marc Fellhauer, Trudi Daniels and BranDon).

We claim to know NOTHING but we do however enjoy talking freely together about cool, quirky, spooky and sometimes political subjects. We are just two hosts chit-chatting about whats going on.. In this episode: Mackenzie Bezos Who Suffers from Long Covid Ukraine Russia Mythical Foxes and MORE! Check out Radio Wasteland News & interview highlight clips: https://www.youtube.com/c/RadioWasteland/videos Radio Wasteland is a radio show and podcast that covers all topics mysterious to conspiratory, ranging from corrupt governments and cover-ups to UFO phenomenon and cryptozoology… and everything in between… and more importantly, everything beyond. Learn about the cast and crew at https://radiowasteland.us/about/ #RadioWasteland #Ukraine #Covid Follow Us at: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RadioWasteland.us/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/radiowasteland6 Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/Radio_wasteland/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/radiowasteland/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCacz6KvUCCTuMKg0rBkXdAA Want to be a guest on our show? Email us at Radiowastelandpodcast@gmail.com and we will get back to you ASAP!

Alexandra Holien is the Vice President of Revenue and Strategy and Deputy Director of Ada Developers Academy. She talks with Chad about working for a nonprofit that prioritizes teaching Black, Brown, Latinx, Indigenous, Hawaiian, Pacific Islander, and low-income folks software development for free. Ada Developers Academy (https://adadevelopersacademy.org/) Follow Alexandra on Twitter (https://twitter.com/AlexandraHolien) or LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandraholien/). Follow thoughtbot on Twitter (https://twitter.com/thoughtbot) or LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/150727/). Become a Sponsor (https://thoughtbot.com/sponsorship) of Giant Robots! Transcript: CHAD: This is the Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots Podcast, where we explore the design, development, and business of great products. I'm your host, Chad Pytel. And with me today is Alexandra Holien, Vice President of Revenue and Strategy and Deputy Director of Ada Developers Academy. Alexandra, thank you for joining me. ALEXANDRA: Thank you for having me. I'm excited. CHAD: Let's start right off the bat with giving folks a brief overview of what Ada actually is. ALEXANDRA: Yeah, I'd love to. Ada Developers Academy we are a super unique non-profit, and I think, well-functioning business. We're a tuition-free 11-month software developing bootcamp academy for women and gender-expansive people. That may sound like some of the other bootcamps you've seen out there, but we're completely different. We have this really cool intersection of education, social justice, equity, bringing money to the people that need money sort of drive about us. We prioritize serving Black, Latine, Indigenous, Hawaiian, and Pacific Islander folks, and low-income folks. And we prioritize them because they've been left out of this capitalistic system the most. And we think if we can really put money in the hands of these gorgeous, resilient communities through the career of software development and one of the hugest wealth engines of our time, then we're going to change the world. We're crazy because it's like we're free for our students. CHAD: [chuckles] ALEXANDRA: There are wraparound services, ridiculous, not even ridiculous, just like, natural. And it seems unique, and it seems crazy. But these things that we're doing to support our students are actually just human and basic needs, providing comprehensive support for our students financially, childcare, mental health care, free laptops, just making sure that they're set up for success, unlike I think other more traditional education systems. So they can go and be really amazing software developers. And it's proven time and time again if you just set people up, open the door, give them the opportunity, make sure that you're creating equity, then 92% of those folks what we're seeing is our numbers are going to go out there and get full-time software development jobs. So that's Ada in the smallest nutshell and believe me, I'm going to tell you way more. CHAD: Well, we're going to dig into each of those things and more. I interview a lot of people who graduate from bootcamps. We have a pretty wide-reaching apprentice program. And I'm pretty familiar with what it looks like when people are graduating from those programs. And you can graduate from a three-month program and be successful, and I don't mean to imply that you can't be. But I do see folks who go to slightly longer programs, up to 11 months, a year like at Ada, and those people are often much more well-rounded developers not only with the technical skills but with all of the other skills that are important to development. How intentional was the length of the curriculum? And was there pressure early on to get people into the market faster? ALEXANDRA: Yeah, great question. I think that so many...let me answer your first question, which is how intentional was it? It had to be at the forefront of what we wanted to do. And the reason why it had to be is that we were taking a group of people that had already been left out of the system. And we already knew that there were going to be steps that they had to take to get into...like, once they got into the tech industry, getting in and staying in was going to be harder than their counterparts, harder than the white dude who took apart a computer or a Nintendo when they were in the 80s and growing up because their dads were software engineers. And then went on to college and knew they were going to be software engineers. So our founders, Scott Case and Elise Worthy, were so intentional in making sure that the technical bar and the technical merit of our students going into the industry was not what they were going to have to worry about. That was not going to be the thing that kept them up at night thinking like, oh, man, I don't know if I can do this because I don't understand it. That was not going to be it because we knew there were going to be other things. We knew there were going to be people mistaking you for the secretary. And these are examples that are all true. It's mistaking you for the secretary or the person that's the assistant or the executive assistant when they walk into the room or that person that constantly misgenders you. We knew there were going to be other really big obstacles that they're going to have to overcome when walking into a very homogenous industry like the software development industry of the United States. We knew that that was going to be the big thing. So being intentional about the programming that we were going to offer our students that five and a half months of nine-to-five intense programming that also concentrates on what I don't think a lot of bootcamps really concentrate on, that CS fundamentals part of it, showing people that that is a part of the world. It's not the part of the world of the most entry-level software engineers, but it is there, so showing them that that's there. And then giving them that internship, giving them that on-the-job training that Ada does that no other bootcamp does like we do. That sort of on-the-job training where you go in, and you see what does that practice of what you learned in code look like in real-time when you put it next to one of our sponsoring companies' tech stack? So it had to be really intentional. I don't know if it was like, yes, this has to be perfectly like this. I think we definitely iterated and made it better over the years. But making sure that the technical bar of our students was at the technical bar of everyone else was something that we really wanted to make sure that we hit on. So they didn't have to worry about...so retention was not that they couldn't quote, "hack it" like everyone else like the people say, or they didn't have the aptitude. The retention was all about is the company creating a good enough environment for these folks to want to stay at that point? CHAD: What is the tech stack that you're teaching now? ALEXANDRA: Yeah, we just switched. We talked about this for a little bit. We just switched from our beloved Ruby on Rails. We were Ruby on Rails for a very long time. But we just switched to Python, React, JavaScript. HTML and CSS is part of our curriculum. And yeah, that's it, Python, React, JavaScript. CHAD: I don't take the switch away from Rails personally. [laughs] ALEXANDRA: People did. We had companies being like, "What are you doing? We love Ruby." And we were like, "Yes, we do too, but we had to move forward and on." [laughs] Ada started at the same time Ruby was in the spotlight, too, eight years ago. CHAD: So is that what you're seeing in the industry now, is Python, React are in more development, in more demand? ALEXANDRA: Yeah, we're seeing that definitely come up. We put together a steering committee for our curriculum when we made this switch. We basically just brought in our partners to help us like, okay, what is the thing because, you know, our partners range...every cohort, we have a company that sponsors the education of one of our students, and then they take that student on as an intern. So we can't please everyone. We knew we couldn't please everyone here. But we wanted to find a good middle, and Python seemed like a really good middle. Python, React was a good middle for us to go towards for just the future. Eight years from now, again, we'll probably be in the same place we are right now. But we say it's like teaching Spanish. We're not teaching you building out a bunch of Python engineers. We're building out people that know how to be agile, know how to learn different curriculums, know how to be flexible and all that, and know that the industry is changing, and you have to be a lifelong learner, right? CHAD: Yeah. ALEXANDRA: You know this to be a part of this industry. CHAD: Well, beyond the tech, what are some of the other things that students in Ada learn or focus on over the course of the program? ALEXANDRA: I would say our curriculum is broken out into three distinctive pieces that are all a part of our everyday classroom. So that first part being that technical part that our students really are just getting the chops of what it means to be a software engineer, understanding a full tech stack, understanding the frontend, backend, the APIs that all connect the stuff, just making someone that sort of bare bones of what I think is a good software engineer. The next step is that social justice piece, which is held up by our equity and policy team. They're really teaching students once you get in the door, it's not just about getting in the door; it's about staying in the room. And it's about not just diversity; it's about inclusion. And we're seeing that we cannot just expect just because someone's decided to sponsor an Ada student, we can't expect someone knowing how to support someone that is outside of what they've supported in the past, and we know what that looks like. So we have to really create students who know what allyship looks like, know what advocacy for themselves looks like. So they can really manage up in this process, bring people in. We do not want to say someone did something or said something to me, so we're just going to push these people away because we found that when you push those people away, especially in the tech software engineering space, you're really just left out of it. You're just out of the system. So we have to figure out how to change the system from within. So really teaching students how they can talk about gender expression, how they can talk about racial expression, how they can advocate for themselves while they're on the job. And the goal of all of this is actually to keep people on tech. We don't want our students having to talk about these things all the time. We want them to be talking about the tech that they're doing just like they want. And so we want to just keep things as much on tech as possible. The third part is our professional development part. How do you manager up, take yourself in that first block to that SE2 SE3? And that's just helping folks with career development. CHAD: When it comes to the inclusion piece, I imagine it's a little bit of a fine line to walk because you don't necessarily want to put all of the work of creating an inclusive environment on the people who have been historically marginalized. But at the same time, you want to set those people up for success coming out of your program. How directly do you provide training to the companies that are sponsoring? ALEXANDRA: Completely directly. [laughter] We know that if we can get a whole...I would say I sign people at the CTO level and the senior manager level. They have the budget. They're the ones pulling the purse strings. But once we figure out, once you sign on as a company, your manager and mentor are going through our corporate accountability training. While our students are learning the technical part of it, our managers and mentors are going through a monthly training with our team to make sure they are ready to receive these interns. So when that intern comes on-site, they're speaking the same language. We're not only teaching the students how to be allies and advocates. We're teaching the managers how to be. So many times, they're like, "Someone on my team keeps misgendering someone, and I don't know what to do." We had enough of those calls, so we decided to teach them what to do. And not only do we teach them, but we also put them in peer learning groups together so they can teach each other what to do because that's where they really start listening to each other. When two folks coming from the same background are having a conversation on how to be a better manager, we love that. CHAD: Yeah, that's great. And I think that's really likely a very important component to overall success. Well, let's talk economics a little bit because I've gotten up on my soapbox before around how companies have traditionally been way too comfortable saying, "Well, we have this position open, and we're using recruiters." And the position has been vacant for months. And in the meantime, they're willing to pay recruiters tens of thousands of dollars trying to fill the position. And I've always made the case like, tech and the way the economics work it would be better to invest that money that you're willing to give a recruiter into training people. When I learned about Ada, it really resonated with me. So what is the complete picture of how students afford to attend Ada, where the funding comes from, and how that all works out for them? ALEXANDRA: Oh, you're speaking to the choir. [laughs] When I talk about this with companies, I am oftentimes like, "How much did you spend on recruiting last year?" And then they tell me the number, and I'm like, wow, okay. We work with companies we call them our company partners because they are partnering with us to complete this mission of Ada that we have, which is to educate more women and gender-expansive people to be software engineers. Our business model is simple, but it works. We wanted to remove all barriers for entry for people that wanted to become software engineers within that group. So we wanted the program to be free. We knew that was always the case. We knew that there was this hole with bootcamps that was out there. This was seven, eight years ago where it was like people were going through these bootcamps and then not getting full-time jobs. And so we knew we didn't want to fall victim to that. So what we did was put an internship on the backend and really got companies to not just put their money where their mouth is but put their time and resources where their mouth is. That's more money. So they pay $55,000, and that $55,000 educates the student while they're in class with us, keeps the program completely free for our students. And then the other part of their buy into this whole shebang is you have to now make this person a hireable junior engineer because they're going to do an internship with you. And then everyone's always like, okay, the return on investment. To me, the return on investment is you did good, company. CHAD: [laughs] ALEXANDRA: But also, the return on investment for a lot of our company partners, I call it the icing on the cake because it is not a part of our model. It is 70% of them convert their students to full-time jobs, full-time FTE offers from these internships. We had a company give...they sponsored six interns, gave six offers, and then went on to do a hiring loop with our graduating cohort and gave another 23 offers. CHAD: Wow. ALEXANDRA: And this happens every six months. So these companies that are out there saying it's a pipeline problem or I'm just going to spend money on this recruiter to go find talent, I'm like, are you kidding me? We're either in your backyard, or we're a phone call, phone call, excuse me, an email away. CHAD: [laughs] A fax away. ALEXANDRA: I age myself. I said Rolodex to our students, and people didn't know what it was, and I was so embarrassed. I was like, wow, I guess a LinkedIn I'm sorry. CHAD: [laughs] ALEXANDRA: But we're like, you know, the resource is there, the talent is there. We have 120 students in our cohorts, and that's only growing. We're expanding to Atlanta. We're expanding to the DC area. It's there. So when companies are like, "I don't know." I've seen us move the needle at mid-sized companies. There are companies like Amazon, and there are over 100 graduated Adies there. We've moved the needle. So it's like, you just got to call or email at this point. There are other ways to do it. And if you keep going to the same well, you keep going to the colleges; you keep going to that recruit, yeah, you're going to fill up the same thing over and over again. And we know 70% of jobs are received by...you're networking with your friends, and you're networking with your peers. And if something like 75% of the industry is white dudes or just dudes in general, then we're just going to keep bringing in the same person. And it's not just diversity is the right thing to do. It is the right thing to do, but it's also like you build a better product, period. That's just a better product. CHAD: Yeah, the different perspectives that people have, the different blind spots that people have. When you get rid of those, you build a better product. ALEXANDRA: And we're talking about building the future here. We have to include the other 50% of the population. So it's imperative. It's not necessary; it is imperative we get up to that. You're at 40% in your company. We got to get up to 50%. We got to get a little bit more. And we got to make sure that 50% is diverse on all intersections of what diversity can mean. Mid-roll Ad I wanted to tell you all about something I've been working on quietly for the past year or so, and that's AgencyU. AgencyU is a membership-based program where I work one-on-one with a small group of agency founders and leaders toward their business goals. We do one-on-one coaching sessions and also monthly group meetings. We start with goal setting, advice, and problem-solving based on my experiences over the last 18 years of running thoughtbot. As we progress as a group, we all get to know each other more. And many of the AgencyU members are now working on client projects together and even referring work to each other. Whether you're struggling to grow an agency, taking it to the next level and having growing pains, or a solo founder who just needs someone to talk to, in my 18 years of leading and growing thoughtbot, I've seen and learned from a lot of different situations, and I'd be happy to work with you. Learn more and sign up today at thoughtbot.com/agencyu. That's A-G-E-N-C-Y, the letter U. CHAD: So you mentioned the companies pay to sponsor individual students. You also have mentioned earlier in the conversation that you provide things like child care. So are the pooled resources of all of those sponsorships also going to pay for those additional benefits while in the program, or do you have another source of funds? ALEXANDRA: We are still very much so a non-profit. [laughs] We have a good amount of philanthropic dollars coming our way, and it's individual donors. I would say one of our biggest clumps of donors, our biggest group of people that donate to Ada, are our alumni. They come out with 160% salary change, and they are the first people to see the value in giving back to Ada. We also have some major donors out there. We just got a pretty large expansion grant from the Pivotal folks, which is Melinda French Gates, MacKenzie Bezos, and the Schusterman Foundation. They invested $10 million in helping us expand. That expansion has served more students. Wraparound services mostly come from philanthropic dollars. So donating to what we do, donating to keep our program equitable, is always very much needed because about 10% of our budget is all philanthropic dollars, and that's covering those wraparound services barriers to entry. CHAD: Is healthcare one of the wraparound services that you provide? ALEXANDRA: No. I wish. I mean, geez. CHAD: I know. ALEXANDRA: If the U.S. government gets it right, after they get it right, we'll follow soon. [laughter] But we're trying. We are trying to do it differently. We're trying to meet people where they are and see the reality of people's situations. And the reality is that if you're a woman or gender-expansive person and you want to take this chance, we offer a zero-interest either loan or a zero-interest grant that comes directly from Ada, or from our partner, Community Credit lab. And that's a zero-interest loan. We don't even check your credit. If you're in it with us, then we're going to get it in it with you. And that zero-interest loan just gets recycled back to serve more people. So that zero-interest loan is while you're in class for that five and a half months, you're going to need still some money coming in. So we make sure you still have money coming in. The stipend hits when you get to internships, so from that 55,000, about 17 goes directly to the student for their stipend while they're interning. Also, we give a childcare stipend. We're looking for a childcare partner out there because we really want to be able to make this more of a national program. But we're looking for that out there. But we give that stipend out to folks so they can pay for daycare or whatever they may need so they can actually come to the program. We have a laptop program. You need a Mac to come to Ada. Everyone can't afford a Mac. We take donated Macs from companies that...companies sometimes give them a two-year life cycle for their Macs. So we can use it for another couple of years. So we take donations for Macs. And we also have a fund that we fund every year so people can buy a Mac. And my favorite and I think one of the most needed things is we partner with BetterHelp and offer our students free therapy while they're in the classroom and while they're in their internship and a little bit after that as well. The free therapy was just...we're in a pandemic, and it's hit women hard. It's hit gender-expansive folks, parents, Brown folks, it's hit people hard. And so we're like, hey, why don't we, while you're in a pandemic, send you through the most rigorous part of your life? [laughs] And so, making sure we were supporting people all around was really important to us. And it did nothing but create success for us. This did not make a deficit in our bottom line. This actually created more success for us. We saw when we did this; we got more people graduating. We get more people donating back. We get more people paying back their loans faster. So it just does nothing for the community but make it better and stronger. So we're going to continue to do it. It's going to continue to always be a part of who we are at Ada. But the wraparound services are key to the success. CHAD: That's fantastic. So you mentioned you're expanding. Where is the original location? ALEXANDRA: Seattle. We are a Seattle-based school. CHAD: And you're expanding to Atlanta and DC you mentioned. ALEXANDRA: Yeah. We first went digital because you know -- CHAD: That is what I was going to ask. ALEXANDRA: [laughs] CHAD: How have you dealt with the pandemic with a primarily in-person model previously? And then how has that affected your expansion plans? ALEXANDRA: The pandemic was shitty and just horrible in so many ways. And out of a lot of shitty and horrible times, it creates a lot of innovation, and that's what it did. Our leadership team is a group of Brown parents. And they went to work immediately. We switched from being an in-person classroom where there's a lunch club, and a push-up club, and there are hugs everywhere and to being 100% online program in three days with systems. And companies were coming to us saying, "How are you creating community in this time?" So we did it very quickly. It taught us that we can educate people digitally. So the first thing we decided to do is like we've got our digital cohort up and running. So still, I would say in quotes, "our Seattle cohort and digital cohort," but digital cohort basically means you're partnering with a company that is fully digital, and they are not attached to anything geographically. And that helped us expand to Atlanta because it helped us jump over the hurdle of like, oh, we have to go get a brick and mortar. We have to set up this brick and mortar. Instead, we just decided to educate people still digitally. If you're in the Atlanta cohort, you're still having your education 100% online, and your internship is going to be in person with an Atlanta-based tech company. So you might be but and see [inaudible 24:11] in Atlanta later on, but we can educate you digitally. So we didn't have to slow this down. We saw the need just like the amount of women that lost their jobs in the pandemic. We were completely energized by the fact that we can do this. We have people that believe in us. They're giving us money. They're funding this. We can do it. So we went for it. And Atlanta is the first campus. We already have staff there. We already have a campus director on point there. And then, the next expansion will be to the DC area. And we're excited to do the same thing. It's educate them digitally because that's what we've been doing for the last few years, and we're good at it. And find but and see partnerships in DC because that's how we can really make sure we have good programming that we know they can do and then give them to the sponsoring companies to complete their programming with the internship. CHAD: So where are the current limits of growth for you then? ALEXANDRA: Current limits for growth, I mean, we've been such a Seattle-based place, and COVID pushed us into that national arena, so not a lot of people outside of our geography know who we are. Pacific Northwest was our sweet spot because people used to have to move to Seattle to be a part of Ada. So we got a lot of Californians. We got a lot of Oregons, Montana, Idaho, some Floridians because Florida knows about...we have a very huge population of Floridians. I don't know how they know, but they know. CHAD: [laughs] ALEXANDRA: Our thing is, how do we get the Ada Developers Academy name and model out to the rest of the country? So they know that we are here, and we're an option for them if they want to become a software engineer. CHAD: And right now, it sounds like you have your sights just set on the United States, not internationally. ALEXANDRA: Not Internationally. I always joke about Ada at sea, but we'll see. CHAD: [laughs] ALEXANDRA: Give me 10, 20 years to get that spun up. But I would just love to...[laughs] but yeah, over the next five years, there'll be five markets in Ada. By 2025, we're hoping to educate 10,000 women and gender-expansive people. We just graduated a class of 72 last Thursday. And we just admitted another class of 120 that starts in March. So we're chugging. But right now, it's Seattle, digital, Atlanta, DC. I imagine there'll be a Southern region, and then probably a Midwest region coming after that. CHAD: So, and then you have the purely digital cohort too? ALEXANDRA: Yep. And that's that sort of the sixth market, purely digital, which means there are so many companies that went fully remote and have no plan on coming back. And so that's just a market that we want to make sure that we're...we want people to opt into that. That's for some people who want to be fully remote forever. Some people are seeing that they need some sort of community while doing this work. And so they want to have a but and see internship. And there's every which way in between. So we'll figure it out as we move through this pandemic like the rest of the folks. CHAD: You've shared some numbers there. And I think sometimes it's good to put that in context because people don't realize that 10,000, on one hand, sounds like a small number in the grand scheme of the United States. But actually, it's a very large number. ALEXANDRA: It's huge. CHAD: The U.S. only graduates around 65,000 CS graduates a year in the whole United States, so just to put that in context for people. ALEXANDRA: Yeah, it's huge. I looked at the numbers for...I'm in Seattle, and I'll just say there's a college here, a large college here in Seattle, and they graduated 300 CS folks last year, and 20% of them were women. And we graduated in six months, 72 women and gender-expansive, and our focus is Brown folks, low socioeconomic folks. So you could just imagine underneath that umbrella of women, even under that, the diversity that you see. We're getting up there with some of our colleges, and we're doing this every six months. And so it's a powerful model. It's the reason why I've been here for six years. It's the reason why I get really excited talking about this program. [laughs] I don't know if you can tell, but I get really excited talking about it. Because once people get in, they love being a part of our program, and they love being a partner with us. And it's a cool place to be. It just feels like a transformative place right now. And I think that we can really make a difference. CHAD: Yeah, your excitement, and I'm a big believer in the opportunity. Your excitement is clear [laughs] when you're talking about it. How did you get into this work? ALEXANDRA: I was in recruiting before. I did technical recruiting, contractor for a few different places. And I just saw the amount...and I came from a working-class. My family is from the Deep South in Louisiana. And the average income from the town I'm from is $26,000, and that was my reality. And then, when I started technical recruiting, it was insane. The amount of wealth that was a part of this churn, the going to these colleges, early recruiting, paying people $6,000 a month, paying them a living stipend, making sure they had a plane ticket home, hot air balloons, tours of people's, you know, these millionaires houses. I was like, holy crap, this has to be more readily available. And again, having two working-class black parents, they didn't even know what software development was. We didn't even know that was a possibility. My dad was like, "We're getting a computer," because he wanted to be on the forefront. And we got to that clear Mac that was like a purple color. We had that purple one. CHAD: [laughs] ALEXANDRA: And my dad was like, "We've one." But still, there were kids in my school and in my college that had been around computers their whole lives; their schools had programming and things. So they just had that extra step. My opportunity to see in was recruiting. And after that, I was like, okay, where do I find the intersection of this and what I want to do, which is making sure that black folks have money? To be crude about it. [laughs] If we're going to work and live in a capitalist society, then I want us to have some coins to play, and that is where I found Ada. And I love having this place. I just get to be a part of this place where I just get to open doors or show people a door. They can open it themselves and go through, and just that's the amazing part of me, a part of this is watching people change their lives, buy their grandparents' homes, pay off their student debt, get a divorce, anything they want to do. [laughs] But to have the agency to do it in this world we live in, in the society we live in, and that's all I care about is that agency. CHAD: Yeah, I was very privileged to be exposed to computers really early on and get to experience that spark of I love this. This is what I want to do. And I talk to so many people who just never had that opportunity to discover that that was even a thing that they could do, let alone love. It's just incredible when I meet someone who's like a plumber, and then they somehow get that exposure to computers or technology, and you see that spark go off for them. And it's amazing. ALEXANDRA: It's so cool. It's one of my favorite...like; our admissions process is pretty rigorous. I think the average is like 15% or 20%, depending on the cohort admissions process. And to hear how obsessed these airline stewardesses or hairdressers or mothers are obsessed with coding, I'm like, yes, yes. Or these folks who are like...Oh, we had this woman who she was an immigrant from...she fled Israel, and she came to the U.S. And she's like, the only thing she knew about coding before she started was she had one time saw someone with two screens in a movie. CHAD: [laughs] ALEXANDRA: And she saw them on the computer, and she saw two screens. And then she started going through finding free stuff online. She found Ada. And this person's sitting in front of me talking about how geek they are about arrays and loops, and I'm like, yes, this is amazing. And to watch that person graduate less than a year later with just the salary that she got from Microsoft, and just the feeling that she felt when she got to call home and say, "Hey, I'm a software engineer now," I was like, all day, all day. That's like the gravy for this. CHAD: It has nothing to do with aptitude. It has everything to do with opportunity. ALEXANDRA: Oh my gosh. Yeah, opportunities. Yeah, it's everything here. CHAD: Well, that's great. And Ada is providing folks with that opportunity. And I am so excited to hear about it and share it with our audience. Hopefully, students are listening and want to sign up but also those sponsoring companies too, right? ALEXANDRA: Yeah, for sure. Sponsoring companies too. We love you too. You keep the wheels on this bus. So definitely give us a call. CHAD: So if folks want to get in touch, where's the best place for them to do that? ALEXANDRA: Our website that's the best place to start, adadevelopersacademy.org. And there there is stuff on corporate partnership. If you sign up on the partners' email list, it leads you right to my email. And then, for students, we have full admissions. Our admissions opens in March for the next Atlanta cohort. There are going to be 48 seats in Atlanta, 60 seats digitally, and 60 seats in Seattle. I would say get ready for that via our website. CHAD: Awesome. You can subscribe to the show and find notes for this episode at giantrobots.fm along with all those links that Alexandra just mentioned and a transcript of the entire episode. If you have questions or comments, email us at hosts@giantrobots.fm. You can find me on Twitter @cpytel. This podcast is brought to you by thoughtbot and produced and edited by Mandy Moore. Thanks for listening and see you next time. ANNOUNCER: This podcast was brought to you by thoughtbot. thoughtbot is your expert design and development partner. Let's make your product and team a success. Special Guest: Alexandra Holien.

With a 4% stake in Amazon, MacKenzie Scott, formerly MacKenzie Bezos, is the third wealthiest woman in the United States. In this episode, David Lenok is joined by Richard Peck, vice president of New Hampshire Charitable Foundation, and Jonathan Gassman, CEO of Gassman Financial Group. Richard and Jonathan discuss how she goes about charitable giving … Continue reading Ep 58 – MacKenzie Scott: The Future of Giving? →

Well mutton my chops it's time for another episode of Review Party Dot Com! This show is very funny, very cool, very chill, very nice, very handsome, very party, very dot com! Today's topics include Miami Sound Machine, mediocrity, various kinds of deer calls, grunting, cleaving power, being a human pretzel, the corn pit, MacKenzie Bezos, Professor X's floating bobsled, a little boy in a big shirt, and emu. Want more party? Check out https://www.reviewpartydotcom.com/!

Recent alumni Morgan Smith and Joe Ort join Nathan and Susan to "draft" Princeton alumni for their dream dinner tables. Listen as Susan roasts Nathan's picks, Nathan convinces himself that he can change the world, and Morgan and Joe prove that they've done more research than either of the hosts. Video of this episode is found on our IGTV!*This was recorded on July 17, 2021.Featured song: Sleepless Nights (feat. Phoelix) by Dinner PartySupport the show (https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/psinapod)

Jordi and DeCruz are back for another Week In Review! Why is Mackenzie Bezos the luckiest woman in the world? Jordi has new pets...ones that were rescued from the jaws of a reptile. 

Cowboy/Astronaut Jeff Bezos lives, Dan Wetzel live from Japan on the Olympics, HR Derby hero Dave Jauss joins us, Naomi Osaka v. Megyn Kelly, Elisa Jordana's mad at us, and signs you're old according to Millennials.Jeff Bezos proves that anybody with $205,000,000,000 can go to "space". Van Jones and Jose Andres somehow made money off the launch. MacKenzie Bezos is the true hero today for not getting in a rocket.Drew's former high school baseball teammate and the current Home Run Derby Champ (along with Pete Alonso), Dave Jauss, joins the show.Miguel Cabrera decided to hit baseballs and drive in runs again.Cade Cunningham visited Detroit and had a great time.Best wishes to Amy Andrews, who was injured on vacation. Her kid is now being raised by Jason Carr & Taryn Asher.White Boy Rick is suing the FBI and the Detroit Police.James Craig hasn't announced that he's running for Governor, but it sure seems like he's a candidate.Two remain in critical condition and four have died after attending the Faster Horses Festival.Would you let your kids go to Lollapalooza?We are so old according to Millennials. Drew comes strong with the most streamed songs from each year.Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are super low.The Olympics are in peril due to the pandemic leading to an increase in bets on them being cancelled.The View vs Sean Hannity.We break down who will and will not get the vaccine. Unvaccinated deaths get high praise online.Legionnaires' Disease is so hot right now.Elisa Jordana doesn't understand the show and got angry with us.Prince Harry is trying to tell people he's giving his book money to charity... not including the advance.Naomi Osaka and Megyn Kelly are fighting.Aaron Sorkin dumped Paulina Porizkova, but she's totally cool with it... for now.Mark Consuelos wants to bang Kelly Ripa SO BAD. He knows you want to bang her too.More details on the whirlwind marriage of Britney Spears and Jason Alexander.Dan Wetzel dials in live from Japan for exclusive Tokyo 2020 coverage.Social media is dumb but we're on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter (Drew and Mike Show, Marc Fellhauer, Trudi Daniels and BranDon).

We're "not that cute", Richard Branson: Astronaut, the untouchable South Dakota AG, Rob Schneider wants to shoot the vaccine, Georgia golf murder mystery, fun with Ring, and too many goofballs on the Pad Squad.A Drew Crime weekend. Somebody murdered Jennifer Kesse and is walking around right now like nothing happened.An undisclosed person we know J/O'd at work.Kamala Harris feels terrible for those country bumpkins without no a Kinko's.A suspect has been arrested in the Golf Murder Mystery, but it's just made more questions. His rap career is about to explode in spite of having a terrible rap name.Secretary of State appointments are in such high demand that they're being sold on the black market. Drew wants to impeach Jocelyn Benson.The Attorney General of South Dakota killed a guy while distracted driving. First he thought he hit a deer, but now he knows the guy intentionally threw himself in front of his car.Italy won some boring soccer the Euro 2020 tournament in PKs.Anyone can be astronaut now! Richard Branson beats Jeff Bezos to "space".Bill and Melinda Gates are freaking out their charity employees with their bitter divorce. If they can't make it 2 more years together on the board then Melinda gets her own charity.The VP of Ava Lane Boutique in Auburn Hills needs to pay attention to where he sends his emails. Gracie needs to stop feeling sorry for herself.Valerie Bertinelli needs to stop reading comments.Madonna thinks Britney Spears is a slave and in jail. Britney responds by saying, "IT IS TOO MY BACK"!Rob Schneider is so angry at COVID-19 vaccines that he's going to start shooting. Some people are saying our phone call to his mother killed her 10 years later.Hilarious Baldwin is "fluid and multi-cultural" not "culturally appropriating".Some people are saying Tom Cruise has seen the light and is leaving Scientology. LRH is going to be pissed.Now former NFL linebacker Barkevious Mingo sure knows the grooming playbook.James Charles is BACK with An Open Conversation.The Texas dude who waited to vote for 6 hours voted illegally. They are now throwing the book at him.Carroll Baker totally has Bill Cosby's back presumably without reading about his sexual assaults.Trevor Bauer's accuser has also nailed Fernando Tatis Jr and was a member of the San Diego Padres' Pad Squad. We roll through the Squad roster to learn all about these goofballs.Ronald Acuna is hurt. Bloop.Ron Jolly saved carnival riders lives at the Cherry Festival in Traverse City. Note: The Ron Jolly claim is just assumed.No more planes for this this terrible mother.Marc and BranDon had epic RING Doorbell farts (watch the whole thing).MacKenzie Bezos is the best billionaire of all!FBI says the 4 people with a tons of ammo in their Denver hotel room we not targeting the upcoming MLB All-Star game.Conor McGregor lost AGAIN. Donald Trump was the star of the show. Don't sleep on Rick Granata.Social media is dumb but we're on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter (Drew and Mike Show, Marc Fellhauer, Trudi Daniels and BranDon).

The Wolf And The Shepherd answer some submitted questions from a listener in England which lead to interesting discussions, such as the fact that Mackenzie Bezos is the Shepherd's hero, why Texas is the best state to live in and why people should stop moving to Texas, family vacations, the differences between anger and sadness, the infusion of money into food stamp accounts in Texas, micro-managing, why time zones are ridiculous, how the United States invented time, the Rodney King incident, riding shopping carts in parking garages, the one chip challenge, how to save money by convincing your kids that they are fat, why subtitles in films are terrible, the ratings of shows on Netflix, the photoshopping of Walt Disney smoking, and why you should go to college to get a chemistry degree if you want to start a meth lab.

Hi. We also discuss Mackenzie Bezos' donations, Chrissy Teigan's troll stuff and Katy's fun/sad story. It's a hot episode!     Get an extra 3 months Free on a one year package. http://Expressvpn.com/morenews     Thanks HelloFresh! Go to http://HelloFresh.com/morenews12 and use code morenews12 for 12 free meals, including free shipping!   We now have a MERCH STORE! Check it out here: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/somemorenews     Support SOME MORE NEWS: http://www.patreon.com/SomeMoreNews   Follow us on social Media!   YouTube: http://somemorenews.com   Twitter: https://twitter.com/SomeMoreNews   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/SomeMoreNews/   Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SomeMoreNews/

Jon Stewart's COVID take upsets Stephen Colbert, Comic Dave Landau joins us, Biden v. Putin, Chrissy Teigen asks Oprah to save her, LeBron James' lies, and Maz checks in after interviewing Jim Brandstatter.Jon Stewart has upset the world of science as he explains to Stephen Colbert where he believes the Coronavirus originated.Comedian Dave Landau will be at One Night Stan's in Waterford this weekend. We talk Superman's Aids, gay Captain America, dead-naming Elliot Page and his new role on Louder with Crowder.Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin went on a date today.Dr. Anderson Debacle: Michigan alumni gathered at the Big House today to get U of M to respond to the Dr. Anderson allegations. Matt's family doesn't believe Matt. Jim Brandstatter can't stop talking... to MAZ! We critique Tom Mazawey's interview with Brandy.Local Crime: D'Wan Sims is still missing after the slowest DNA results finally are released. Raisin Township murder/suicide. Joe Palleschi married a 14-year old and murdered her after 39 years of marriage.Tom Mazawey joined the show today to gloat over his timely guest, LeBron James' lies, LeBron James' film credits, LeBron James / Kobe Bryant murder allegation, Charles Barkley controversy, pitchers cheating in the MLB and EURO 2020.Ricky Schroder new target is Dave Grohl, Foo Fighters and vaccines.Detroit police like the COVID vaccine just as much as Detroit citizens.MacKenzie Bezos is giving away Jeff's money at a rapid rate.BranDon's alma mater is such a scam that many former students are getting their tuition money back... not BranDon, though.Teigen Update: There is speculation that Chrissy Teigen will tell "her truth" with Oprah Winfrey. John Legend should get out now. Something named Leona Lewis has Chrissy's back. Michael Costello fires back! We chat with Michael's mother and brother.Trudi has breaking Bob Crane news.OMG, Ann Marie LaFlamme is having a baby and Mr. Dimples is nowhere to be found.97.1 The Ticket has blocked BranDon from their "Ticket-Text" for constructive criticism.Hunter Biden is the greatest artist possibly ever according to art critics. Oh, and he's a racist again too.Victoria's Secret says goodbye to hot chicks and hello to Megan Rapinoe.Social media is dumb but we're on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter (Drew and Mike Show, Marc Fellhauer, Trudi Daniels and BranDon).

E News: Mackenzie Bezos' is donating billions again, Salma Hayek's Owl threw up on Harry Styles, Kevin Hart is super mad, and A burrito made someone fail their drug test.

MacKenzie Bezos gave Odessa College 7 Million Dollars - Jada Pinkett Smith has a 2 Pac Poem he wrote - Selma Hayek says her OWL threw up on Harry Styles - Girl JUDGES guys on where they take her to lunch or dinner - Butter Popcorn HACK - Carmen Calls from the Pharmacy - Birthday Holla - They SOUND THE SAME GAME - There was a FIGHT on the Golf COURSE - Leo and Rebecca Buzz Question, Is Husband Facebook Stalking or Normal CURIOSITY

Episode NotesPLEASE listen to Part 1, which is S1:E7 which also has really great content! Part 2 is a continuation and includes great citations…here are some links...(and sign up for our mailing list for future updates):Michelle talks with Christina Shimizu one of the co-founders of community centric fundraisingChrissy work includes Seattle-based organizations like the Wing Luke Museum, Asian Pacific Americans for Civic Empowerment Votes, Chinatown International District Coalition, and she's been working with the Decriminalize Seattle Movement, the Afro-Socialist Defund Seattle Police Campaign. And she's now housed at Puget Sound Sage. References: As we talk about inspiration, Chrissy mentions her own influences and specifically names The Revolution Will Not Be Funded, Justice Funders, the now closed Grassroots Institute for Fundraising Training, Social Justice Fund, Mijo Lee, Simone and her partner Dae Shik Kim Jr (Sr. Producer @vice/@vicenews on Twitter at @daeshikjr)  She states that the modality we exist within is white-dominant, colonial and neoliberal (we define neoliberalism in Part 1)  We dove right into Andrew Carnegie and his essay The Gospel of WealthSince you are reading the show notes I'll pull out the quote she uses:"But whether the law be benign or not, we must say of it, as we say of the change in the conditions of men to which we have referred: It is here; we cannot evade it; no substitutes for it have been found; and while the law may be sometimes hard for the individual, it is best for the race because it insures the survival of the fittest in every department. We accept and welcome therefore, as conditions to which we must accommodate ourselves, great inequality of environment, the concentration of business, industrial and commercial in the hands of a few, and the law of competition between these as being not only beneficial, but essential for the future progress of the race."Okay and here is the old school definition for philanthropy in the same context:"It is a law, as certain as any of the others named, that men possessed of this peculiar talent for affair, under the free play of economic forces, must, of necessity, soon be in receipt of more revenue than can be judiciously expended upon themselves; and this law is as beneficial for the race as the others."She talks about the rise in power of organized labor and mutual aid networks (1870s/1880s) and cites the Haymarket bombing (also called “affair” or “riot”)during the fight for the 10 hour workday Fair Labor Standards Act of (she was right) 1938 Berkeley students help us wrap our monkey brains around the concept of a Billion Consider: Philanthropy and nonprofits as: a political system, an economic system, a culturally informed system. We discuss Amazon's policy to penalize workers if they don't work fast enough, and connect it to TER's recent episode feat. Teddy Schleifer and how MacKenzie Scott (was Bezos) can't give money away fast enough because of her investments (in Amazon and these extractive practices for ex)  Donor Advised Funds. One day I'll write an article about it but we discuss it here and in S2:E6 with Teddy Schleifer. Very important to learn about if you dunno… Heather Infantry, and the TER episode Disrupting Your Community Foundation was named. She's a badass and we are so appreciative of her work! "We live in capitalism. Its power seems inescapable, but then so did the divine right of kings. Any human power can be resisted and changed by human beings. Resistance and change often begin in art. Very often in our art, the art of words." - Ursula LeGuin Consider: Within our work, who are we investing in? “...when we dig into the actual complexities our communities, our networks will fall apart unless we trust and have genuine relationships with each other outside of work. So, are we investing in that?” Things get heavy here, as we talk about the murder of Seattle resident Charleena Lyles, who was murdered, while pregnant, with three of her children home, by police. What is not covered in reports is the relationship to the nonprofit housing she was living in. References from the Q&A:Just TransitionAlaska Native MovementEdgar Villanueva and the Decolonizing Wealth MovementNeed to know:NOTE: So we're learning that this podcast is becoming part of university curriculum across the US and Canada! If you happen to be studying this episode, and want to either tell us about it (plz) or add more links related to this episode...email us! hello@theethicalrainmaker.com because if you are doing the research anyway… ;)We are self-funded. So. If you'd like to inspire this beautiful series through your financial contribution - we'll take it on Patreon! Subscribe to this podcast to get the best of what we have to offer. I promise there are more incredible episodes on their way - every other Wednesday.The Ethical Rainmaker is produced in Seattle, Washington by Isaac Kaplan-Woolner and Kasmira Hall, with socials by Rachelle Pierce. Michelle Shireen Muri is the executive producer and this pod is sponsored by Freedom Conspiracy.

First, it was Jeff and MacKenzie Bezos, and now Bill and Melinda Gates are getting divorced…after 27 years of marriage.So today, we're playing a game. From Paul McCartney to Michael Jordan, can you guess which celebrity had the most expensive divorce? See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Le podcast "Il était une fois l'entrepreneur" est l'ex podcast "l'apprenti", le podcast des histoires d'entrepreneurs. Jeff Bezos a tué un journal. Mais peu de personnes le savent. Il est non seulement le milliardaire fondateur d'Amazon mais aussi un stratège confirmé dans toutes les situations... même quand il s'agit de sa vie personnelle. Je vous emmène aujourd'hui dans cette incroyable histoire qui mêle espionnage, scandales, sexe, divorce et surtout Jeff Bezos, l'homme le plus riche du monde qui a tué un journal avec des photos intimes. Vous y découvrirez l'adultère de Jeff Bezos avec Lauren Sanchez, l'opposé de sa femme, MacKenzie Bezos. Mais c'est le frère de Lauren Sanchez, Michael Sanchez qui va les trahir. Il prend contact avec un tabloid, le National Enquirer, dirigé par un pro Trump: David Peck. Le National Enquirer va alors tout faire pour enfoncer Bezos mais il ne va pas se laisser faire et va retourner la situation de façon incroyable. Retrouvez l'incroyable histoire des photos de Bezos ici => https://inspire-media.fr/amazon-comment-jeff-bezos-a-tue-un-journal-avec-des-photos-intimes/ Inspire Média, le média des histoires d'entreprises et d'entrepreneurs. Les extraits audio: https://youtu.be/DSSOWa048Vs https://youtu.be/EI-_kU4DUww https://youtu.be/cTtJpEM1YoI

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First, it was Jeff and MacKenzie Bezos, and now Bill and Melinda Gates are getting divorced…after 27 years of marriage.So today, we're playing a game. From Paul McCartney to Michael Jordan, can you guess which celebrity had the most expensive divorce? See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Teddy Schleifer is a journalist for Vox’s recode, covering what billionaires in the Silicon Valley are doing with their money. Teddy works for Vox as a journalist and hosts the podcast Recode DailyHe’s active on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/teddyschleiferHe says his reason for covering billionaires = “just as reporters cover poverty in America, reporters must also cover and uncover wealth in America - offering the scrutiny that informs essential debates about income inequality, money in politics, and the role of private philanthropy. If we don’t have a common set of facts about how the wealthiest people in society spend their money or live their lives, then we are just shooting in the dark - arguing based on press releases, unfounded suspicions and our set-in-stone prior beliefs.”Teddy would love to hear from you with hot tips about badly behaved foundations or billionaires! Or anything else alarming in philanthropy. Hit him up.References:During the pandemic, the number of billionaires spiked by 30%. Around the time of this podcast recording in Spring 2021, there is a record high of 2,755 billionaires. 86% of those billionaires are richer than they were a year ago. We discussed the relative wealth of MacKenzie Scott who has given $5.8B (the single largest gift in the history of the US), but still gained in wealth in 2020.DAFs: As Teddy explains, a Donor Advised Fund, essentially serves as a place to set money aside for charity, “and the money then goes to charity later. It could be much later.” (it could also be never and keep power in the hands of family members.) There is over $140B sitting in Donor Advised Funds in the US. Of the billionaires he covers, he recently spoke with who was relatively surprised to see how he could influence the presidential election with his donationsThis is where Silicon Valley is.Larry Page, is listed as one of the billionaires ($80-$100B Net Worth in a given day) that places the minimum 5% payout from his foundation, into a DAF, literally with no benefit to society at this time. He’s the worst case scenario. He’s a cofounder of Google.Teddy warns us that we have very little information about what billionaires are doing with their money, and that this lack of information is getting even worse!Effective Altruist MovementDustin Moskovitz, co-founder of Facebook “...is probably the most prominent billionaire philanthropist in effective altruism, and he's in his thirties, but he has a clear point of view on what he wants to do with the money and is working on it.”Here is the interview with young Billionaire Sam Bankman-Fried who talks about influencing the Biden electionStephanie Ellis-Smith of Philanthropy NW/The Giving Practice in Seattle, was listed as a philanthropy consultant who talks about “analysis paralysis”Jack Dorsey has a new charitable effort called Start Small, which is taking a lot of criticism because of its gifts to other celebrities.What Americans Really Think About Billionaires During The Pandemic is the Data for Progress poll Teddy mentionsWe are self-funded. So. If you’d like to inspire this beautiful series through your financial contribution - we’ll take it on Patreon! Subscribe to this podcast to get the best of what we have to offer.I promise there are more incredible episodes on their way - every other Wednesday.The Ethical Rainmaker is produced in Seattle, Washington by Kasmira Hall, and Isaac Kaplan-Woolner, and socials by Rachelle Pierce. Michelle Shireen Muri is the executive producer and this pod is sponsored by Freedom Conspiracy. 

PLUS: Danny Masterson: Will he now be held accountable? Holly has the Dirt Alert AND can we get Mackenzie Bezos and Melinda Gates to fund us?! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode of Komando On Demand, Kim answers listener questions and talks to a few special guests. She gives advice on the best smart plugs, voice recognition software for writing a book, recording webinars automatically and more. Plus, Kim chats with a reporter who took the COVID-19 contact tracer training to see exactly how it works and a staff writer for Wired magazine who gets calls and emails meant for MacKenzie Bezos, Jeff Bezos' billionaire ex-wife. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After the billionaire announced she would give away her fortune, Google's algorithm decided the best way to reach her was by contacting me.

I anden time taler vi om Jeanette, som tissede foran Orange Scene – og blev krænket over at få en advarsel for det. Skuespilleren Berrit Kvorning er død i en alt for tidlig alder. Også Jesper Langberg er død, og vi mindes den store skuespiller. Fie Laursens selvmordsbrev lå på sociale medier i to døgn, og vi spørger Champagnedrengen, Mads Dinesen, hvorfor Facebook ikke fjernede opslaget. Amin Jensens skiltekamp mod kommunen fortsætter: Han har nu pillet sit store skilt ned – men blot for at sætte et op i dobbelt størrelse. I anden time taler vi om verdens dyreste skilsmisse mellem Jeff og MacKenzie Bezos, som nu er afgjort. Caroline Fleming lejer prins Joachims hus – men betyder det, at prinsen bliver i Frankrig? Bergur Løkke Rasmussen bor til leje hos fars forretningsvenner - lugter det lidt af nepotisme? Meghan Markle er i voldsom modvind efter hun blev vred på en mand, som (ikke) tog et billede af hende til en tenniskamp. Og så får vi det sidste nye i sagen om Steen Svarzengrens rapport. Ditte Okman er vært, og i panelet sidder journalist på ugebladet Her & Nu, Nikolaj Vraa, redaktør på Berlingske, Jakob Steen Olsen, og chefrådgiver, Anne Kirstine Cramon. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I anden time taler vi om Jeanette, som tissede foran Orange Scene – og blev krænket over at få en advarsel for det. Skuespilleren Berrit Kvorning er død i en alt for tidlig alder. Også Jesper Langberg er død, og vi mindes den store skuespiller. Fie Laursens selvmordsbrev lå på sociale medier i to døgn, og vi spørger Champagnedrengen, Mads Dinesen, hvorfor Facebook ikke fjernede opslaget. Amin Jensens skiltekamp mod kommunen fortsætter: Han har nu pillet sit store skilt ned – men blot for at sætte et op i dobbelt størrelse.  I anden time taler vi om verdens dyreste skilsmisse mellem Jeff og MacKenzie Bezos, som nu er afgjort. Caroline Fleming lejer prins Joachims hus – men betyder det, at prinsen bliver i Frankrig? Bergur Løkke Rasmussen bor til leje hos fars forretningsvenner - lugter det lidt af nepotisme? Meghan Markle er i voldsom modvind efter hun blev vred på en mand, som (ikke) tog et billede af hende til en tenniskamp. Og så får vi det sidste nye i sagen om Steen Svarzengrens rapport. Ditte Okman er vært, og i panelet sidder journalist på ugebladet Her & Nu, Nikolaj Vraa, redaktør på Berlingske, Jakob Steen Olsen, og chefrådgiver, Anne Kirstine Cramon. http://arkiv.radio24syv.dk/photo/53817022/fie-laursens-selvmordsbrev-verdensSee omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

MacKenzie Bezos' recent announcement that she'd take the Giving Pledge and dedicate at least half of her $35 billion in net worth to philanthropy has sparked attention, partially because her ex-husband, Jeff Bezos, wouldn't sign the pledge. Her commitment to the Giving Pledge, spearheaded by Bill and Melinda Gates and Warren Buffett in 2010, should be lauded, especially in light of the current cynicism about the giving of mega philanthropists.

This week, Slate Money talks about Trump's trade wars with China and Mexico, theFiat/Chrysler Renault merger and MacKenzie Bezos' giving pledge.Email: slatemoney@slate.comTwitter: @felixsalmon, @Three_Guineas, @EmilyRPeckPodcast production by Jessamine Molli. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week, Slate Money talks about Trump's trade wars with China and Mexico, theFiat/Chrysler Renault merger and MacKenzie Bezos' giving pledge.Email: slatemoney@slate.comTwitter: @felixsalmon, @Three_Guineas, @EmilyRPeckPodcast production by Jessamine Molli. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Nearly two months after her divorce from Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos was finalized, MacKenzie Bezos has made a plan to be far more generous than she and her former husband were as a couple. When the pair split, she became one of the richest women in the world, with a fortune estimated to be worth more than $36 billion. Now she wants to start giving it away.

Laura is joined by well-known therapist and mindfulness coach Elizabeth Winkler. Winkler is the creator of the mindfulness system called The Heart Surgery Kit which teaches children and adults how to integrate simple meditation concepts into their daily lives. Tune in to the full episode to learn about the 5 strategies Elizabeth recommends that everyone follow to find peace and abundant love after divorce. Laura confesses how she really feels about meditation and the two ladies discuss the importance of being able to observe body language in high conflict situations. Elizabeth shares mindfulness tips with Laura and they define the Language of Awareness, which can help divorcing spouses communicate better. On the Sunny Side Up Report Laura and Johnnie share some of the ways you may increase your chance for divorce, and they weigh in on why Mackenzie Bezos is a hero for our age.

MacKenzie Bezos divorce makes her the 4th richest woman in the world. Taraji P. Henson and Sam Rockwell talk about their new movie "The Best of Enemies". Guest is singer G.B; Leighton. Celine Dion will be here on November 1.

MacKenzie Bezos divorce makes her the 4th richest woman in the world. Taraji P. Henson and Sam Rockwell talk about their new movie "The Best of Enemies". Guest is singer G.B; Leighton. Celine Dion will be here on November 1. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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This week we dig into why the new Congress scares Republican (and let's be real some progressive men) and what it has to do with Jeff and Mackenzie Bezos divorcing.  I also talk about why Alexandria Ocasio Cortez is getting all the attention lately. See if you identify with her too!  In our "Self-Care Tip of The Week" I share a life-changing podcast by Rachel Hollis author of "Girl, Wash Your Face."  Get In Touch:  @betsaimeec or Betsy@betsyaimee.com  Show Notes and References:  Penelope's Blog The myth of the Lone Genius Rachel's Podcast: Ep 72    

When award-winning novelist MacKenzie Bezos and her husband Jeff Bezos, the chief executive and founder of Amazon, announced on Twitter Wednesday they were getting divorced, public discussion over the uncoupling quickly centered on the impact it might have on Jeff's company, and on each sides' net worth.

Jeff and MacKenzie Bezos shared on Twitter today that they are ending their 25 yr marriage. But they sound so happy! What in the world is going on? We investigated it for you and have some answers. But today's show is about why your marriage should be like the marriage Jeff and MacKenzie Bezos described in their divorce announcement! There are literally 8 things stated in the tweet that every couple would dream of experiencing in their marriage. Get all the show notes and more free stuff here: https://www.smalleyinstitute.com/blog/if-every-couple-could-have-a-marriage-like-jeff-and-mackenzie-bezos Follow us on your favorite social app: Instagram or Facebook Call us at (903) 392-0975 and leave a voicemail question or review.