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SummaryIn this episode of The Bentonville Beacon, host James Bell sits down with return guest Phil Libin, a renowned serial entrepreneur known for his transformative ventures such as Evernote, All Turtles, mmhmm and now, Bentoville. Bentoville is a new concept that promises to revolutionize the dining experience in the Greater Bentonville Area by combining Japan's culinary art with vibrant, local food culture from Northwest Arkansas. Throughout the conversation, Phil shares his insights on entrepreneurship,outlines his journey from the San Francisco tech scene to Northwest Arkansas and delves into the virtuous cycle and connection of quality of life and quality of work, while shedding light on the philosophy behind Bentoville.Thanks for tuning in!Show NotesTimestamps in this blog are for the audio-only version of the podcast; video timing differs.(0:52) Introduction to Phil Libin(3:36) About Bentoville's Co-Founders(5:15) The Inspiration and Vision behind Bentoville(13:11) Bentoville's Approach to Sustainability and Local Sourcing(18:47) Belonging and Co-Creation(21:25) How Phil's Thoughts on Bentonville and Northwest Arkansas Have Evolved(25:58) Phil's #BecauseBentonville Story(32:15) Advice for Entrepreneurs in Goldilocks Cities(36:22) Closing Question‍LinksJames Bell Bentonville Economic DevelopmentGreater Bentonville Area Chamber of CommercePhil LibinBentovilleQuotes“There's a business hypothesis behind [Bentoville]...And it's the theme that we were calling the Goldilocks cities. And what it means is over the next decade or so, more and more people will have the opportunity to choose where they want to live and where they want to work and not have those two decisions to be completely tied to each other…And a lot of those people are going to choose places that are optimizing for quality of life.” - Phil Libin, (6:39)“We want people to think that you don't have to give up anything. We don't have to give up much because the perception in the past is…we get a slightly better quality of life, but we're probably giving up some food and some culture and other things. And we're saying, no, all of it can be better. Obviously, everything has some trade offs, but you don't have to make any of those big sacrifices to go to a place that's meant to be a great place to live.” - Phil Libin, (9:54)“Bentoville is Japan style food, meaning it's authentic Japanese food, but the important thing is not that it's ingredients from Japan or even strict dishes, we're not trying to make an American's idea of a Japanese restaurant, we're trying to make a cool restaurant in Japan.” - Phil Libin, (13:31)“One of my board members said this quote that really stuck with me. She said, ‘What's the difference between belonging to something and just being invited?' And she said you can only belong to something that you help create, so if you want to have a feeling of belonging, you have to help create it. You can't belong to something that you were a passive participant in…And so we're really reaching out to the community, to people and to businesses because we want to be in that co-creation process.” - Phil Libin, (19:04)“Everyone shows up [to Bentonville] without much expectation, and then everyone leaves blown away by how cool it is and how liveable it's been.” - Phil Libin, (23:05)

In this episode, we are excited to welcome Troy Malone, the Co-Founder of Relevant, a company that helps SaaS startup founders successfully enter new markets. In this role, he supports founders in unlocking an unfair competitive advantage in new markets through a uniquely profitable marketing system. Throughout his 15-year career as a growth and scale-up business leader, Troy has helped companies like Evernote, Weebly, All-Turtles, mmhmm and Drata to scale internationally. He loves the challenge of building teams for hyper-growth. Troy also embodies the global mindset and cultural empathy of a true “interpreneur,” as proven by his successful expansion efforts to Europe, Latin America, and Asia. Here, we discuss how to hire the right people who will lead your global growth initiatives, the importance of going on “Localization Discovery Tours” to truly understand a market, and examples of unusual marketing and promotions campaigns Troy came up with that drove results in new markets. Get your copy of our Wall Street Journal Bestselling book, GLOBAL CLASS, a playbook on how to build a successful global business. https://www.amazon.com/Global-Class-Fastest-Growing-Companies-Globally/dp/1637742185 This episode is sponsored by our partner, ZEDRA. Learn more about how the ZEDRA team can support you in expanding to new markets at https://www.zedra.com Find our entire podcast episode library at https://www.globalclassbook.com/podcast

On this epsiode we are honored to host Phil Libin who is a serial entrepreneur. Among the companies he co-founded are Evernote, All Turtles and mmhmm. He is an expert in building great products with hundreds of millions of users. Together we are getting Phil's opinion on building winning products that solve real problems and what it means to being a great product person. Phil also shares his opinion on why being opinionated in the early stages of building a product is far more important than talking to customers.  Tune in and subscribe to the SPEED CHANGE REPEAT Podcast for a weekly episode. 

Today, I'm talking to Catt Small.-Catt, on this day of posting, is on a work sabbatical. Before, Catt worked at All Turtles. an early-stage startup studio, as the Director of Product Design. Before All Turtles, she worked at Asana, Etsy, Soundcloud, and other companies. Also, in 2016, Catt co-founded Game Devs of Color Expo, an organization with a mission to amplify the creative power held by people of color in games.-I first discovered Catt through her wonderfully playful website. And what I discovered was a treasure trove of her blog articles, talks, and resources! To this day, I am still amazed by her willingness to give back to the design community. So, naturally, after spending hours consuming her content, I was like, “I have to reach out to her!” And lo and behold, we're here! And it was an absolute blast. We focused on solely one topic - junior designer. So if you're a junior designer, you'll love this one. So, without further ado, here was my conversation with Catt Small.===Highlights⭐ What makes a junior designer stand out?⭐ How to speak up in meetings⭐ What is one thing that you wished you knew before entering the “real world”?⭐ How to grow as a junior designer⭐ Should junior designers specialize or generalize?===Links

Phil Libin has already launched and sold several startups. His latest venture aims to bring even more great products to life. The startup, All Turtles, has acquired funding from top-tier investors like General Catalyst and Bossanova Investimentos.

Phil Libin has already launched and sold several startups. His latest venture aims to bring even more great products to life. The startup, All Turtles, has acquired funding from top-tier investors like General Catalyst and Bossanova Investimentos.

Joining me is one of my favorite entrepreneurs. His name is Phil Libin. He was the head of Evernote which was a phenomenal company and I remember hearing Phil say he was building a hundred year startup. I really was excited about that idea and so I invited him here to ask him why he left Evernote. He has moved on to create a company that is making video so much better online. It’s called mm-hmm. I’m going to ask him about mmhmm and also All Turtles, his startup studio. Phil Libin is the co-founder of mmhmm, which lets users make great video presentations. Sponsored byOrigami – If you’ve heard about DAOs (Decentralized Autonomous Organizations) and you want to find out how to set one up for yourself, go to JoinOrigami.com. Even if you’re just interested in how these things work and want to learn more, the Origami blog is a great place to start. Lemon.io – Why squander time and money on developers who aren't perfect for your startup? Let Lemon match you with engineers that can transform your vision into reality — diabolically fast. Go to Lemon.io/mixergy for a 15% discount on your first 4 weeks with one of their devs. More interviews -> https://mixergy.com/moreint Rate this interview -> https://mixergy.com/rateint

Lou sits down with Catt Small, Director of Product Design at All Turtles, who will be speaking at the Design in Product Conference on December 6, 2022. They discuss how designers and product managers can learn each other's lingo and build relationships that will make both their jobs easier. Together, they sort through different workplace scenarios that new and more seasoned designers can encounter and Catt dispenses wisdom she has picked up throughout her career. Register to attend the conference: https://rosenfeldmedia.com/events/futures/design-in-product/register/ Catt is a product design leader, game maker, and front-end web developer. She is currently the Director of Product Design at All Turtles, a globally distributed product studio solving meaningful problems. Catt has done design work for companies of all sizes including Asana, Etsy, SoundCloud, and Nasdaq. She started coding around the age of 10 and designing at the age of 15. She graduated from SVA with a BFA in Graphic Design in 2011 and later received an MS in Integrated Digital Media from NYU in 2016. Catt also makes awkward video games, writes about professional development, and draws artwork of all kinds. You can follow her @cattsmall on Twitter and view her work at www.cattsmall.com.

A lot has been made about the metaverse and its potential, but in many ways it has failed so far to live up to its hype. At the WSJ's Tech Live conference, Phil Libin, co-founder and CEO of startups All Turtles and Mmhmm, and Herman Narula, CEO of Improbable Worlds, sat down with host Zoe Thomas to debate the prospects and letdowns of the metaverse. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Phil Libin is on the podcast this week. Phil is a software engineer turned serial entrepreneur. He immigrated to the United States as a child from the Soviet Union and went on to build the popular note-taking app Evernote. The company grew to have more than 150 million users and a $1 billion valuation while Phil served as CEO, a position he stepped down from in 2015. He then took a detour as a venture capitalist at General Catalyst. Now he's a founder again. He's the CEO of Mmhmm, a video software business that's backed by Sequoia Capital, Soft Bank's Vision Fund and he runs a product studio called All Turtles. You're going to get inspired and learn a lot, from Phil Libin. 

SummaryOn this episode of The Bentonville Beacon, host James Bell is joined by Phil Libin, a software engineer turned serial entrepreneur. Phil's currently the Founder and CEO of All Turtles, an early-stage product studio, as well as the startup mmhmm, a video software business that aims to create more sustainable and joyful ways to work and collaborate. With a long history of success, Phil has extensive experience with transforming ideas into companies. Throughout the episode, James and Phil discuss Bentonville's economic ecosystem and the complexities behind founding a startup. Thanks for tuning in!Show Notes:(0:54) Introduction to Phil(2:33) About All Turtles(3:30) About mmhmm(8:27) Phil's Journey to Bentonville(12:12) Surprising Aspects of NWA(18:59) Entrepreneurial Opportunities in NWA(20:30) About Bentonville's Economic Ecosystem(27:01) The Intricacies of Being a Founder(31:42) Raising Venture Capital(38:10) Learning from Failure(42:59) Closing Questions‍LinksJames BellBentonville Economic Development Phil LibinAll TurtlesMmhmmDean Matt WallerSam M. Walton College of BusinessUniversity of ArkansasQuotes“I think it's a more humane way to live. People spend a lot of time talking about work-life balance, and when you frame it like that, those two things are pulling against each other…It's only fairly recent that those two were seperate things.” - Phil Libin, (7:02)“The companies I've seen here tend to focus on more real problems, and the companies I've seen in the Bay Area and San Francisco tend to chase opportunities more than focus on problems.” - Phil Libin, (21:01)“That'll be the next version of economic development, which is different from what it used to be before because before you had to start thinking about the company first, now you can start thinking about the people.” - Phil Libin, (23:30)“At All Turtles, when we hear a pitch, we internally talk about what is the most likely way for it to fail so we know what to work on first, because we always want to run at the hardest problems first, because that's what's going to kill us.” - Phil Libin, (41:06)

As employers adjust to a post-pandemic world, how can they design working practices that minimise human risk and maximise human reward? My guest, Phil Libin, is an experienced CEO with some fascinating insights to share on what he calls ‘The Out Of Office World'. He's the former CEO of Evernote and the co-founder and CEO of All Turtles, a product studio that solves what they describe as meaningful problems. I first came across All Turtles when looking for a solution to make video presentations more engaging. In 2020, they launched a product called mmhmm which, in their words — and I'd agree — gives you ‘communication superpowers'. I've been using it ever since. While our discussion begins with mmhmm, it's the story of what the software inspired that I find really interesting. Because when All Turtles began using it internally, they also discovered a more effective way of working. What mmhmm inspired was the recognition that the perception we all have of video as a poor substitute for ‘in person' meetings is wrong. There are certain activities that can be improved by the use of video — particularly asynchronous video — and recognising that ‘face to face' time is so valuable means changing how we use that time. As Phil points out, he's not created a blueprint for how all companies should think about working; it's what works for them. But the ideas behind it are something that can inspire all companies. To find out more about All Turtles, visit — https://www.all-turtles.com/For mmhmm, the app that gives you ‘communication superpowers' - https://www.mmhmm.app/home
The demo that I did of how I use mmhmm is here: https://www.mmhmm.app/blog/christian-hunt-compliance-expertAll Turtles also produces some fascinating videos and podcasts on the Out of Office World. Here's a video that explains the philosophical underpinnings of their approach - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBKIMhGO8WA
I also recommend watching the mmhmm ‘Degrees of Freedom' video podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHL6dBk6wAE

Phil's manifesto: “Everyone should be paid equally and work where they have the best job and live where they have the best life!”Former CEO of Evernote and co-founder of All Turtles and mmhmm, Phil Libin, sits down with TOA founder Niko.Working from home was always supposed to be the “new normal”. But many companies are now going back to their old office ways. Phil Libin explains why that's wrong.Plus, he tells us why, to earn more money, you should spread it more equally amongst your employees.//Looking to level up or enter a new field? Join TOA Klub for cohort-based learning. Four Klubs to chose from, each including Masterclasses, AMA's, and peer-to-peer learning. Apply now: toaklub.comSubscribe to our NL (go.toaklub.com/toaoa-nl), follow us on Instagram (@toaberlin), Twitter (@toaberlin), Linkedin (toa-berlin) and Facebook (TechOpenAir).Support the showSupport the show

STIMY 87 features Phil Libin. Some things he's most known for: Co-founder and CEO of Evernote, which he grew to become a beloved product for hundreds of millions of usersManaging Director at General CatalystCo-founder and CEO of All Turtles, a globally distributed product studio Co-founder of mmhmm, an all-in-one platform for making, watching, and talking on videos This is an episode that's all about startups, growth, regret and why Phil hates the metaverse & thinks blockchain is bullshit and “communist propaganda”.Here's a little background:Phil Libin was 8 years old when he moved from Leningrad (now St Petersburg) to Parkchester, New York as a refugee. His parents were both classical musicians and he lived in a fairly dangerous neighbourhood in the Bronx. Despite being a self-described “punchable” kid (he was poor, very physically uncoordinated and didn't speak English well), he did well in school, earned good money doing repair work and freelance programming and sold his first company, Perseus Data systems, for $500.But at the same time, he also got fired from his job selling ice-cream and took 30 years to get his Bachelors degree!Why?How?What?Here are the highlights:3:43 Moving to New York as Russian immigrants4:52 Being fired from his job selling ice-cream6:11 Taking 30 years to complete his degree?!8:15 Working with essentially the same core group of friends to build 5 startups11:13 Selling Engine5 for $26 million, Hollywood-style15:52 Building something for himself (Evernote)18:19 Startup failure is brutal; startup success is much worse & much harder20:57 Three types of regret22:48 Maintaining his principles & ethics 24:53 Metrics used to measure impact26:30 3-year game plan for mmhmm28:13 How mmhmm improves lives 31:07 Why Phil hates the metaverse32:27 Crypto blockchain is bullsh*t33:45 The promise of blockchain is just communist propaganda?37:14 Training himself to like what he hates, including durians! 39:57 How listeners can help Phil Libin

Krisenzeiten sind gute Zeiten für neue und nachhaltige Produkte, das hat der Serienunternehmer Phil Libin in seiner Laufbahn immer wieder beobachtet: „Wenn die Wirtschaft sehr stark ist, ist es eine gute Zeit, Dinge zu verkaufen“, sagt der ehemalige Chef des Onlinedienstes „Evernote“ im Podcast Handelsblatt Disrupt. „Wenn die Wirtschaft schwächelt, ist es eine gute Zeit, Dinge zu bauen.“ Diese Phasen seien gut, „um sich hinzusetzen, sich zu konzentrieren und zu fokussieren“. In der Coronakrise hat der US-Unternehmer auch seine Führungsprinzipien überdacht. Und er ist dabei vom Homeoffice-Gegner zum Verfechter der neuen Work-from-home-Kultur geworden: „Ich werde niemals von einem Programmierer, einem Designer oder einem Anwalt verlangen, drei Stunden am Tag im Stau zu stehen“, sagt Libin. „Das ist schrecklich und unmenschlich.“ Im Hinblick auf die Kommunikation im Team plädiert er für ein dreistufiges Verfahren. Geht es um den reinen Wissensaustausch, genügen aufgezeichnete Informationsvideos. Sind Teilnehmer aufgefordert, miteinander zu diskutieren, schlägt er interaktive Videokonferenzen vor. Geht es um Erfahrungen mit Kollegen, sei physischer Kontakt nötig. In seinem Unternehmen kommt das aber wohl nicht allzu häufig vor: Er selbst hat seine Wohnung in San Francisco aufgelöst und ist nach Arkansas gezogen - allen Mitarbeitern hat er gesagt, dass er nie wieder eine Büropflicht einführen wird. Heute leitet Libin mit „All Turtles“ ein Studio für Künstliche Intelligenz, das zahlreiche Projekte unterstützt: von „Tasseled“, das Schülern bei der Planung eines möglichst kostengünstigen Studiums hilft, bis zu „Carrot“, das Arbeitgebern ermöglicht, ihre Mitarbeiter bei Fruchtbarkeitsbehandlungen zu unterstützen. Hinter dieser Firma steht auch Kritik am Silicon Valley: Libin kritisiert, dass von jedem Vordenker mit einer guten Idee erwartet werde, ein Start-up zu gründen, auch wenn er dazu nicht genügend unternehmerische Fähigkeiten besitze. Mit „All Turtles“ will Libin diesen Vordenkern helfen, ihre Ideen umzusetzen, ohne dafür eine Firma gründen zu müssen. *** Das exklusive Abo-Angebot für Sie als Handelsblatt Disrupt-Hörerinnen und Hörer: https://www.handelsblatt.com/mehrwirtschaft

Phil Libin has founded a few companies — Evernote the early mobile app giant, All Turtles a product design firm, and now Mmhmm, the culmination of a decade long mission to kill Powerpoint. We dive into how Phil names companies, what he learned about fundraising from raising $400M from Sequioa for Evernote, and how to build products people love. And if you love listening to Just Raised, please leave me a 5-star review on Rate My Podcast: https://ratethispodcast.com/justraised (https://ratethispodcast.com/justraised) Thank you so much! Follow Phil: Twitter: https://twitter.com/plibin Check out the Just Raised newsletter: https://bit.ly/3Ghj2tY (https://bit.ly/3Ghj2tY) Stay up-to-date on all things Just Raised: https://workweek.com/brand/just-raised/ (https://workweek.com/brand/just-raised/) or follow Joe Sweeny on Twitter: http://twitter.com/JoeySweeny (twitter.com/JoeySweeny) And if you're a fan of Acquired, Invest Like The Best, Business Breakdowns or 20VC, you'll love Just Raised

Bärí Williams is a legal and operations advisor to tech companies who focuses on AI and diversity. Her credentials are rock solid: Bärí was lead counsel at Facebook working on various projects, including internet connectivity efforts and diversifying the company's supply chain. After that, Bärí went to work at StubHub, an AI startup studio called All Turtles, and a data and identity analytics company called Bandwagon Fan Club. But now, she's independent — a business of one, consulting on operations with a focus on diversity and AI. I was curious why she decided to leave being a tech executive behind and make that shift to diversity work. We talked about that, but our conversation actually started with sports news — NFL news. Links: Diversity wins: how inclusion matters Black in tech The 4 most explosive allegations from Brian Flores' lawsuit against the NFL California just made it a lot harder for companies to cover up harassment and abuse Transcript: https://www.theverge.com/e/22697189 Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today's episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Jackie McDermott and it was edited by Callie Wright. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Sr Audio Director is Andrew Marino and our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Phil Libin is as deeply rooted in the Silicon Valley ethos as you can find. He immigrated to the United States as a child from the Soviet Union and went on to found the once trendy tech word-processing software company Evernote. He took a detour as a venture capitalist at General Catalyst. Now he's a founder again. He's the CEO of Mmhmm, a video conferencing company that's backed by Sequoia Capital, and runs a product studio called All Turtles. Even though he has virtual reality headsets spilling out of his closet at his new home in Bentonville, Arkansas, he thinks the metaverse is “obvious b******t.” “It is a gloss that uncreative people and companies put over — fundamentally a lack of good ideas,” he says. “There's a part of me that hates it and a part of me that fears it. But since I think it's so spectacularly stupid, there's actually not that much to fear.”Tom Dotan, Katie Benner, and I discuss the metaverse and reminisce about the days when people used to throw eggs at tech buses. Libin explains why he was quick to tell his employees that they would never be coming back to the office and tells us how he got it wrong at Evernote by trying to build his life around work. Get full access to Newcomer at www.newcomer.co/subscribe

Phil Libin is as deeply rooted in the Silicon Valley ethos as you can find. He immigrated to the United States as a child from the Soviet Union and went on to found the once trendy tech word-processing software company Evernote. He took a detour as a venture capitalist at General Catalyst. Now he’s a founder again. He’s the CEO of Mmhmm, a video conferencing company that’s backed by Sequoia Capital, and runs a product studio called All Turtles. Even though he has virtual reality headsets spilling out of his closet at his new home in Bentonville, Arkansas, he thinks the metaverse is “obvious b******t.” “It is a gloss that uncreative people and companies put over — fundamentally a lack of good ideas,” he says. “There’s a part of me that hates it and a part of me that fears it. But since I think it’s so spectacularly stupid, there’s actually not that much to fear.”Tom Dotan, Katie Benner, and I discuss the metaverse and reminisce about the days when people used to throw eggs at tech buses. Libin explains why he was quick to tell his employees that they would never be coming back to the office and tells us how he got it wrong at Evernote by trying to build his life around work. Get full access to Newcomer at www.newcomer.co/subscribe

Timestamps: 1:04 - Dropping out of college 6:53 - Selling a company for $26M at 30 13:00 - Evernote in 2007 38:18 - The out-of-office world 40:40 - Choosing where to live About Phil Libin: Phil Libin is the co-founder and former CEO at Evernote, the world's best known note-taking app. Prior to Evernote, he built Engine5 and CoreStreet. He holds a BA in Computer Science from Boston University, which he began in 1989 and only finished in 2019. He originally dropped out shortly before graduating. Phil did not originally plan to become an entrepreneur, but despite his ambitions of working a steady job for a large company, he just couldn't commit to that sort of life and instead prefered to build companies with his friends. It was only 20 years into this career that it occurred to him entrepreneurship was a valid option. He sold his company Engine5 for $26M in January 2000, right before the dot com bubble burst. Phil was 30 years old at the time. 25% of the money earned by the founders was held in escrow for 2 years — which turned out to be a very good thing, because the remaining 75% they invested into companies which then very quickly went bust. Around 2007, Phil and his team got to thinking about building something like a cognitive prosthesis, a second brain — the note-taking app to conquer all. Their research led them to a California team of scientists working on a very similar product, and they decided to combine the teams. Originally, Evernote was a product intended for journalists and investors. In 2015 Phil Libin stepped down from his CEO role at Evernote (remaining as Chairman until 2016) and moved on to new projects, such as the product studio All Turtles and the video communication company mmhmm. Memorable Quotes: "As young entrepreneurs, we always felt like we were failing. Like the reason we were starting these companies was because we couldn't get real jobs." Resources Mentioned: Continuous Glucose Monitor 1491, by Charles C. Mann Kindle Don't forget to give us a follow on our Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and Linkedin accounts, so you can always stay up to date with our latest initiatives. That way, there's no excuse for missing out on live shows, weekly give-aways or founders dinners!

Produced by Foundersuite (www.foundersuite.com), "How I Raised It" goes behind the scenes with startup founders who have raised capital. This episode is with Phil Libin of Mmhmm (https://www.mmhmm.app/), a communications company that is creating a better way to communicate via video — both in real-time and asynchronously. Phil previously founded note-taking app Evernote. He was also a VC at General Catalyst and co-founder of product studio All Turtles. In this episode, Phil talks about why he moved to Bentonville Arkansas from San Francisco, how he came up with the idea for Mmhmm, ways to be impressive to investors, thoughts on round timing, why speed of iteration is so critical, what he's doing differently now as an "older" founder, and much more. The Company recently raised $100 million from SoftBank's Vision Fund, with participation from Sequoia Capital, Mubadala Investment Co., Human Capital, World Innovation Lab and others. How I Raised It is produced by Foundersuite, makers of software to raise capital and manage investor relations. Foundersuite's customers have raised over $3 Billion since 2016. Create a free account at www.foundersuite.com/

This week we're joined by Phil Libin, Founder of Mmhmm, the newest product by All Turtles, a mission-driven product studio that works to solve meaningful problems worldwide, this time solving our video chat woes, especially as we embrace a new normal with remote work becoming commonplace in so many professions. In this episode, Phil talks about The Pros and Pros of Distributed Workforces...what it means, and also what it doesn't mean after seeing a shift in hr and benefits packages from companies over the past decade. He talks about how we can integrate meaningful distributed workforce practices with teams and how it overall will positively impact productivity and your bottom line. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/endeavornorthamerica/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/endeavornorthamerica/support

269: Taking Notes on the Changing Work Environment with Phil Libin   Summary   Welcome back to the podcast!   We are the Startup Junkies, and this is episode 269. Our hosts for this episode contain the usual Jeff Amerine, Caleb Talley, and Davis McEntire and are also joined by the prodigal son himself, Matthew Ward! We had the pleasure of talking to Phil Libin who is a serial entrepreneur and just a fun guy! We laughed, chatted, and got to dive into his latest ventures, Mmhmm and All Turtles.    Don't miss this one, tune in!   Shownotes   (1:31) Introducing Phil Libin  (3:33) Why move to Bentonville, Arkansas? (6:41) Genesis and future casting for Mmhmm (12:24) All Turtles Philosophy (18:15) Out of Office vs. In-Person Benefits (21:08) Commentary of Evolving VC World (30:37) Paradigm Shifts in Apple, AI, and Machine Learning.  (35:39) Advice to Younger Self (38:13) Wrap Up   Links Jeff Amerine Davis McEntire Caleb Talley Phil Libin Mmhmm All Turtles   Quotes   "Quality of life improves quality of work and quality of work improves quality of life." (8:16) - Phil Libin   "We're never going back to anything, we're going forward. We're not going back to the way things were... We are going forward to the way things should be." (19:13) - Phil Libin   "I care about brilliant people having a chance to show their brilliance and make high impact products. And I don't want them to waste their time making startups first." (25:25)       Taking Notes on the Changing Work Environment with Phil Libin   "Quality of life improves quality of work and quality of work improves quality of life." (8:16) - Phil Libin   Pil Libin arrived in the United States at age eight. He and his family were refugees from what was the Soviet Union at the time. Upon leaving what is now St. Petersburg, he has indeed become a pioneer of the startup world.    As a programmer with VC and five startups under his belt, we were excited to sit and talk with him. After growing businesses from coast to coast, he found himself fleeing San Francisco and ending up in Bentonville, Arkansas, with his latest two ventures: Mmhmm and All Turtles.    From Joke To Product The genesis of Mmhmm began as a bit of a joke. During the plethora of video calls within the past two years, Phil started to play around with slides, fake backgrounds, and other special effects. The snowball effect was then named Mmhmm. When seen by outsiders, this product mainly used internally was encouraged to become an actual software.   Mmhmm is following the out-of-office movement. Though there are many opinions on the transition to remote working, Phil believes in the upside of it. The freedom that employees have when working from home can be cultivated and expressed in a better workflow. Working remotely allows people to be intentional about where they want to live, what kind of neighborhoods they want to live in, or even how they spend time with their family! If one has the tools to allow working remotely to improve their quality of life, that can enhance their quality of work. The point is, quality of life improves the quality of work and vice versa.    Out Of Office Movement The vicious cycle of the office is what this software is up against. The concept of the office is one of the most significant factors in a low quality of life, Phil claims. Whether it be the commute, the hours of workflow, the inability to move or plane, or seek health and wellness with its demanding schedule, having a building can cause more problems than solutions.    The pandemic accelerated the inevitable out-of-office movement. For the first time, a few hundred million people could choose where to live and what is the best life for them independent of where their work is located. The effects have been profound on everything, even beyond workflow. Phil explains that this out-of-office movement can benefit and change everything from society, education, healthcare, recreation, and travel to mentorship, friendships, and family relationships.     "If you want to do anything else, if you want to have time for art or music or health, that all gets pushed out to the weekend or vacations." (9:36) - Phil Libin    Seeing this opportunity for growth, Phil wanted in on any project that could continue to exacerbate and improve the out-of-office movement. Even the language behind the campaign is essential to him. They do not consider themselves remote but distributed. The connotations of loneliness or isolation are now pushed towards, delegated, and intentionally placed elsewhere. Words give superpowers, he goes on to explain.    "The internet is distributed, it's not remote. It's distributed because being distributed gives a system so many fundamental advantages. It gives a company so many advantages, it gives a life so many advantages." (12:00) - Phil Libin   startupjunkie.org wlj.com

Phil Libin is Silicon Valley royalty thanks to Evernote, the notetaking app that's used by millions around the world. Speaking at TBD recently about mmhmm, his latest product, Phil is clearly passionate about improving the video communication space (imagine yourself hosting SNL's ‘Weekend Update' or a newscaster, but it's Zoom and you're in your PJs). Perfectly timed with an attention-ravaging pandemic, Zoom fatigue and an accelerated trend of remote working, mmhmm has gained millions of fans around the world in a short space of time but where to next? mmhmm is just one of the products to come from All Turtles, Phil's product studio. In this episode we discuss a lot more than Zoom fatigue…About Phil: (@plibin)Phil Libin is co-founder and CEO of All Turtles, a mission-driven product studio, and mmhmm, a new app that makes video communication more clear and compelling. Previously he was Managing Director at General Catalyst, and before that he was co-founder and CEO of Evernote, which he grew to become a beloved product for hundreds of millions of users.Find out more about mmhmm and Phil here.ABOUT MOUTHWASH: Mouthwash season two begins July 5, for more information, check out mouthwashshow.comThanks to Shell for supporting the show, and to Ecologi for planting a tree for every listener! TBD Conference will return in 2022. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Formerly the CEO of Evernote, Phil Libin is co-founder of the product studio, All Turtles,  who have just launched Mmhmm, a new app that makes video calls more clear and compelling. Phil has a conversation with Tom about what he believes is the most profound global change we are currently undergoing: a permanent shift to remote working for 1 billion people. This episode is brought to you by Lumie, the original inventors of wake-up lights, whose Bodyclock Luxe 750DAB wake-up light mimics a natural sunrise and sunset. Shown to improve quality of sleep and to boost productivity in clinical trials, this remarkable device also features high quality audio with DAB+ radio, Bluetooth speakers, USB port and a selection of over 20 sleep/wake sounds. The Lumie Bodyclock Luxe 750DAB can transform the way you start and end your day, especially if you struggle to wake up in the morning and/or get to sleep at night - it certainly did for me. Go to lumie.com to find out more. This episode is brought to you by Modal Electronics, who make beautiful, innovative and powerful synthesisers. You can enjoy vibrant wavetable patches with their ARGON8 series. You can produce state-of-the-art analogue-style synth textures with their COBALT8 series. Go to modalelectronics.com to check out their incredible array of synthesisers.

How do you know an idea is the right one to take action on? How do you sift the really good ideas from the mediocre ones? Phil Libin has been a part of and led a number of companies that have created products that changed the way people work. (Evernote is one of my favorite tools of all time.) His most recent company All Turtles is the mission-driven product development studio behind the video service Mmhmm. In this interview, Phil discusses his philosophy of product design, how to know when it’s time to act on an idea, and some of the best advice he ever received.

Formerly, Phil was the CEO and co-founder of Evernote, the popular note taking tool that helps executives, entrepreneurs, and creative people arrange their ideas. Currently, his startup, All Turtles, is based in San Francisco, Paris, and Tokyo, but every position they have available is global. Phil discusses the early days of Evernote and how All Turtles came to be. Links to learn more about Phil Libin:Phil on LinkedInPhil on Twittermmhmm LinkedInmmhmm Twittermmhmm InstagramAll Turtles LinkedInAll Turtles TwitterAll Turtles PodcastFollow us:twitter.com/wistiaSubscribe:wistia.com/series/talking-too-loudLove what you heard? Leave us a review!We want to hear from you!Write in and let us know what you think about the show, who you’d want us to interview on future episodes, and any feedback you have for our team.Relevant LinksTechCrunch article about mmhmm

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Today on the podcast we are joined by Phil Libin the co-founder and CEO of​ ​All Turtles​ and ​mmhmm​. Phil started All Turtles in 2017 to create products that address real-world problems using cutting-edge technology. When COVID forced businesses to move to use video on a daily basis they decide to make their newest app mmhmm in order to make video communication more clear and compelling. Prior to All Turtles and mmhmm, Phil was the co-founder and CEO of the popular app Evernote, growing the product to hundreds of millions of users under his leaders. During this interview, Phil and I got to discuss what made him and his team create mmhmm and why they are positioning it to be a game changing app in a video call business world. We also discussed his thoughts on where life, the economy, and working is headed post-COVID and why calling yourself a "remote worker" will be obsolete in a decade. I had a lot of fun and I honestly learned a lot during this conversation and I think you will as well.

Our new hyperconnected lifestyles have revealed weaknesses in the technology we use every day. But new problems lead to new solutions. That’s where innovation comes from. Phil Libin is probably best known as the co-founder and former CEO of Evernote. These days he heads up a company called All Turtles, whose latest project mmhmm wants to save us all from the Zoom-apocalypse and revolutionize how we will work in the future. Phil sets a high ethical bar for the creators of new technology, including himself: It’s their responsibility to think about the intentional and unintentional impact of their products, he says. Not just the impact on the technology’s users, but also on people who don’t use it at all… ———————————— Show Notes *All Turtles *mmhmm *The Gray Area Newsletter #1, featuring Phil Libin Learn more about your ad-choices at https://news.iheart.com/podcast-advertisers

This week on Floor 9, we are very happy to chat with Phil Libin, CEO and co-founder of All Turtles and creator of virtual presentation software mmhmm. He is also co-founder and former CEO of Evernote, and makes the perfect guest to talk about the future of work given the accelerated shift towards remote work. Starting with the need for better remote work tools like mmhmm, to the ramifications of remote working, to the impact of AI on office work, we have a wide-ranging conversation with Phil on the many ways that technology is reshaping the way we work.As usual, Scott and Adam talk about the biggest news of the week before the main discussion. This week, they cover Amazon’s new palm-reading payment tech, Prime Day date announcement, Facebook merging Instagram DMs and Messenger, Walmart’s mobile-driven store redesign.You can find Adam and Scott on Twitter at @adamjsimon and @tippier. We welcome your constructive feedback.To find out more about the “Better Than Before” contest that Phil mentioned, check out https://www.betterthanbefore.com/ See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Phil Libin, co-founder and CEO of All Turtles and the mmHmm app, sits down with Tonya Hall to talk about ways to add a little bit of fun to your work video meetings and the how e-learning can benefit from the same technology. FOLLOW US  - Subscribe to ZDNet on YouTube: http://bit.ly/2HzQmyf - Watch more ZDNet videos: http://zd.net/2Hzw9Zy - Follow ZDNet on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ZDNet - Follow ZDNet on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ZDNet - Follow ZDNet on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ZDNet_CBSi - Follow ZDNet on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/zdnet-com/ - Follow ZDNet on Snapchat: https://www.snapchat.com/add/zdnet_cbsi Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Following up on a $4.5M Seed round from Sequoia, Phil Libin join's us to talk about his new interactive video venture Mmhmm. Phil is the former founder and CEO of Evernote, Founder of the All Turtles product design firm, and now the CEO and Founder of Mmhmm. We talk about product design, decision making using intuition vs data, and insights from 27 straight years of fundraising. Shoutouts: Mmhmm Demo Mmhmm Demo 2 - Phil's Philosophy on Naming Unscaled by Hemant Taneja Igor Naming Guide All Turtles Podcast Updates on Twitter

Products aren't neutral—that's our ethos at All Turtles. Products are built with a point of view that impacts the community of users and plays a role in the development of privacy guidelines. In this episode, All Turtles' three cofounders (Phil Libin, Jessica Collier, and Jon Cifuentes) discuss community and privacy. Phil is the CEO of mmhmm, and Jessica is the CEO of Spot, so they share their perspectives on building these products with a specific POV.

In this episode, Phil Libin Co-founder and CEO of All Turtles, talks to our host, Cameron Albert-Deitch, about his Book Smart pick, How to Stay Alive in the Woods by Bradford Angier 

For startups, securing funding can be a long and bumpy road, and in many ways the pandemic has made it even bumpier. Tellus (an All Turtles product) has still found success in recent months, and today their CEO Tania A. Coke is imparting key lessons from their fundraising process. How did she and her team build new relationships with investors entirely over Zoom?

Mmhmm, our newest All Turtles product, upgrades video calls with beautiful backdrops and rooms, the designs for which had to be put together in record time. Allie Packard, our fearless Senior Designer, is here to share how she and her team went from the earliest mmhmm sketches to the product we see today. How did they create such dynamic and varied imagery while staying true to the brand?

Mmhmm is our latest All Turtles product, which we built to make video calls more efficient—and more fun. After our podcast's summer hiatus, we're eager to share how we spun out this product at breakneck speed during the pandemic. Mmhmm's suite of tools make any Zoom or Google Meet something to look forward to, with beautiful backdrops and rooms, immersive recordings, and collaboration abilities. As Phil says, why try to just match IRL experiences when you could make them infinitely better? 

Learn more about mmhmmLearn more about the reasoning behind the name, plus see the platform in actionSupport the show and even get on monthly mentorship calls with Fabian. Join here.Full Transcript:Fabian Geyrhalter:Welcome to the show, Phil,Phil Libin:Thank you. Nice to be here.Fabian Geyrhalter:Based on your new video communication tools, really neat demo in which you are actually the star. We now know that you have 123,195 unread emails back then when you filmed that. I'm thrilled you were able to take the time to be,Phil Libin:It's climbed a little bit since then.Fabian Geyrhalter:I had a feeling. I had a feeling. As a little intro, maybe it's not so little after all, but here's the story, how Fabian met Phil. We really only met twice, but a common acquaintance of ours in the Silicon Valley startup world contacted me to tell me about how the former CEO and confounder of Evernote has created this mind blowing new way of conducting and experiencing online meetings. He then told me that he would like to make an introduction, since he believes that I'm an amazing speaker. Those were his words, not mine. That he would like to have Phil give me VIP access to test drive his presentation tool in private beta. I was flattered obviously. Then he shared his secret agenda with me, which you most probably don't know, Phil. He wanted to make sure I could use my intro call with Phil to persuade him to change his mind on his company's name, because it was a very, very strange and crazy name.I got a slot on Phil's schedule a week from that call, but then on the very next day, I found myself mentoring a group of Founder Institute students. I think it was in Singapore or London, who knows, somewhere and as they introduced the two other mentors of the day to the group, there was Phil on the call, mentoring students on, and now hold your breath, naming, with me! How to create the perfect theme for your startup. Here I am my dreams of convincing a man to change his company name after mentoring a group of founders on naming had been shattered. His naming presentation was marvelous, and even the reasoning behind his new company's name started to make at least a little bit more sense. One sentence stuck with me. Phil, you said creating a great name is the down payment on your reputation. I have since tried out your presentation tool and it truly is game changing. While I have seen your new brand with that very name and all launched very, very successfully. Phil, why don't we start with the name? Mmhmm? Will you tell my audience or shall I reveal the name?Phil Libin:Please go for it.Fabian Geyrhalter:Oh, I think I just did.Phil Libin:MaybeFabian Geyrhalter:This is very confusing. Your platform's name is Mmhmm. M-M-H-M-M, correct? That is hilarious, like many things you say. It was important to have a name that you can see while you're eating. You can do that. I definitely checked off that goal. What are the goals did you have with the name when you said set off to create this name?Phil Libin:There's lots of jokey reasons about why we, when we named it that. In factI just put up a demo of Mmhmm. Users demo and some of our new features, talking about all of it, or at least some of the very jokey reasons for it, but really, I wanted something unique. I wanted an unusual name. In that mentoring session that you and I did at Founders Institute, I didn't talk about the name Mmhmm. It was still secret back then. I don't think I advise people to do anything like this. This is definitely not the conventional way of naming products, but we've been making and naming things for a few decades we wanted to do something different.Fabian Geyrhalter:What I found so intriguing about Mmhmm is that you told me that it might just be crazy enough that, in half a year from now or so, we may see all these legacy companies start struggling to come up with similar names as they will try to compete with Mmhmm. They're going to try to fit in, and they're going to have a really, really hard time fitting in with a name like Mmhmm. Now that your platform has launched it all looks really not crazy, but really ingenious because you created a talking point. Not only is the app, the platform, the experience something totally new, something totally different, but you matched it with a name that is so different that everyone grins. I've seen a couple of interviews or people talking about the platform and everyone who talks about it just has to mention the name and has to talk about it. It's really ingenious talking points, so how could we have ever questioned you, Phil?Phil Libin:I think people make fun of the name a lot, which obviously we knew it would happen and you can't be afraid of being made fun of. That is probably the fear that holds back the most creative people from doing things in life and it's okay. It's okay to have something that's funny. That's going to be the talking point. We were very much not convinced in the beginning, and I'm still not convinced, that Mmhmm isn't a really bad name. It might be. It might be a terrible name, or it might be a great name. Actually quite likely it's both, it's probably really good for some things and really bad for other things, but that's sort of typical.That's typical of things that are sharp. They are both great and terrible. It just comes down to optimizing. You don't net those out, the bad things don't take away from the good things or vice versa. You just have to decide what's more important. I think for most things, many things in life, but not all, but most things creatively, the positive is more important than the negative. You don't pick the name that's the least bad, or that averages out to the best. You pick the name that's the best, even if that name is also the worst, because then at least you're guaranteed not to have a name that's boring. T that's the worst case scenario, is just something that no one remembers.Fabian Geyrhalter:Especially for a brand like yours, where it's anything but boring, you actually want to shatter that idea of boring online meetings. It starts to have personality and you couldn't have a name that is not fun, or doesn't have personality, or it doesn't shake things up.Phil Libin:We could have.Fabian Geyrhalter:You could have, but it's smart that you didn't.Phil Libin:Our actual thinking was that the product that Mmhmm the product, the company, it's really for performing. We think about what is the verb that you do in our product. We decided pretty early on that we aren't trying to be a communication product. We're not trying to be a collaboration product. There's a lot of those, there's a lot of very good ones. We're not trying to replace where your team works together. We're not trying to be the new Slack or Figma. We're not a place to hang out and meet interesting people like Clubhouse. What you do in Mmhmm, the verb, is you perform. Mmhmm is for performing and it's for micro performances. Our theory is that everyone is a performer now. Everyone has multiple times every day where you say, attention on me, I'm going to do a bit. I'm doing something right now.Pay attention to me. You're on. Maybe only for a few seconds, or a few minutes, or maybe for a long time, some of these micro performances are pretty macro, but you're always performing. You're performing for your coworkers, for your kids, for your investors, for your social media followers, whatever. Mmhmm is the thing that elevates that performance, especially over video, since all of us are now living on video, it's more important than ever, because for most people performing over video is just dreary and ineffective. The product is for performing. I really liked the idea that the name Mmhmm is a name that is extremely easy to say accidentally. Everyone says that, just in this conversation. I think.Fabian Geyrhalter:Mm-hmm (affirmative).Phil Libin:We both said it just in agreement. Exactly. You just notice it all the time now. It's trivial. Everyone can say it without thinking about it, but if you want to say it intentionally, if you want to say it on purpose, like say it as the name of the product, even I have to like pause for half a second consider how I'm going to say it. Consider which syllable am I going to inflect? I have to take a half second pause, I have to breathe, and then I have to say it. Every single time you say the name intentionally, it's like a little performance. I thought it was really beautiful that the product that's meant to elevate your performance starts with a little mini performance every time even think or say the name.Fabian Geyrhalter:Performance that is so natural, like riding a bike, but then explaining how to ride a bike. That's the problem. Actually having to say, Mmhmm, it just takes an effort, which-Phil Libin:There's something really interesting about the mindfulness and the intentionality of it. Something very zen. I'd like the idea of know every other thing that I've ever named, every other company or product. In fact, every other product name, I think, that I've ever encountered in my life, you can say it thoughtlessly. You can say it. You just rattle it off, after you learn it after the first couple of times you learn it, you just say it and it doesn't mean anything. You can say it without thinking. I think it's really unique to have a name that you can't say thoughtlessly, at least I haven't been able to get, and I've been saying it for a couple of months now. You can't say thoughtlessly. It mindful. It's almost a zen thing, which I find really beautiful, but also completely realized that people are going to make fun of it and that's totally fine. We decided to lean into their making fun of it. We had all sorts of jokey reasons about.Fabian Geyrhalter:You really bring that home. You're not hiding that, because it's impossible to hide! I think it's also hilarious how even during this conversation Mmhmm keeps coming up and now I'm super self-aware, because now it's actually your brand. You have completely brainstormed us. Every time we say Mmhmm, we're like, oh, that's right. Which is definitely more effective than if you just casually say Zoom.Phil Libin:Yeah and I think Zoom is actually a really good name for that kind of product. It's good. It's great. I think we try to do something both a little bit better and a little bit worse, and we knew that it would be simultaneously better and worse. We were fine with that, because we really care about the better part. We discount the worst part.Fabian Geyrhalter:You leaned into it, celebrated it. On your LinkedIn, you have these hilarious one liners describing your roles. For your time at Evernote, you state, "Assembling a brilliant and hardworking group of people, then making sure you have enough coffee to change the world." and for Carrot Fertility, you write, "Help with strategy and product design, all my name ideas have been rejected." that is the description of you advising Carrot Fertility. Sometimes you're swimming against the stream with your naming ideas and people do question them, so-Phil Libin:Usually.Fabian Geyrhalter:That's hilarious, but back to the whole Mmhmm brand and how it came together. The logo, which by the way is really, really cool. It reminds me a bit of the flexibility of the iconic MTV mark and those of us who, you and I are close in age.We remember that iconic MTV mark. It's a three-dimensional cube made up of really fat letters. That's what yours is like, M-H-M, which lends itself to any color or image effect, hence perfectly showcasing what Mmhmm is all about. It's about versatility and presentation. Then that's what that entire cube is about and the way that you guys rolled it out, you guys and girls over the last couple of weeks, how did that logo get crafted? I know you were very hands-on with the name and the copy, since it is very much your style, but how much so with the visual aspects of the brand?Phil Libin:I love the way that the logo came out. It's actually the name, it's M-M-H-M-M, just the other two Ms are on the other side of the cube.Fabian Geyrhalter:Correct, correct.Phil Libin:You can't see them, but if it'll ever rotate it'll do that. I have no discernible talents. I had very little to do with actually like making or drawing it. I've worked closely with the designers. I'm just lucky enough, we have amazingly talented visual designers. The logo was a collaborative effort. It was made by Carlos [Rockford 00:00:12:57], and Allie [Packard 00:00:12:58], Gabe [Kapadoniko 00:13:00], Chris [Plobe 00:13:00], a bunch of us brainstormed on it, did iterations. We all live in Figma. I actually left off a few people who worked on it, because there was like a dozen people, but Carlos and Allie were the two main visual designers at All Turtles that worked on this. We all live in Figma, so we just spent, it was a couple of weeks of diving in and exploring lots of variations and talking about them and trying out many, many different things. I used to do this. I think I actually did that. I did a little presentation during our FI class together about the Evernote logo. We talked about the process we went through.Fabian Geyrhalter:You have, you have, and that's actually one of the topics I want to jump into, but yeah.Phil Libin:I think we will eventually do, it's a little bit presumptuous to do this for Mmhmm. Let's see if it's actually successful in a few more months, but I'll probably do a similar thing, but it was great, but the short answer is I'm a ridiculously talented designers and let them do what they do and try not to get in the way too much.Fabian Geyrhalter:I think it's overly smart to actually to actually hide the rest of the name behind the logo, because it is three dimensional, which also speaks so much about how your presentation tool is actually changing the experience, because everything suddenly becomes more dimensional and you add all of these layers. In a way, seeing that the name is different and is problematic. The logo is too, because now you're only showing half of the name, which already is problematic, but if you actually look at the big picture, it is really ingenious and it's absolutely cool. I would invite everyone to at least check out the Instagram handle and take a look at some of those variations of the Mmhmm logo, because it comes to life really nicely.Phil Libin:Almost daily we're posting different variations of it on Instagram. It's just beautiful. Clever and interesting, fine, but it's just beautiful. There are versions of it and some of the treatments that honestly make me want to cry when I see them. They're just so nice. I'm just overwhelmed by the talent of the team. A lot of times it's playful, you mentioned the old MTV logo and that was definitely an inspiration, like very much so in fact, really early in the process, I said, I love that the eighties MTV logo and the fact that I can remember versions of it, where it was furry, or had a leopard print, [crosstalk 00:15:25] around, it would go to the moon. I really loved that vibe. We very much wanted to capture some of that spirit, as an homage to that early burst of creativity around MTV.Fabian Geyrhalter:I'm glad my mind reading skills are still there. The beauty of that is that it can survive a decade without a problem, because you can just adjust it to whatever the next trend is in logo design and it's still the same logo and I think that's-Phil Libin:It's rarely the same twice in fact. In fact, we already have probably a hundred different treatments of it. The shape itself stays the same, but we specifically made it to, it contains multitudes. We can put things inside of it. We can put it on top of other things. It's meant to be constantly changing and adjusting its mood, just like the idea of that what the product does.The product is consistent hopefully, but what you can do with it is endless. We want it to get some of that spirit across.Fabian Geyrhalter:What has been the biggest success of the past weeks since launch? We talked before launch, I think you said you're going to launch on June. What was it June 43rd?Phil Libin:37th.Fabian Geyrhalter:37th. Did you launch on the 37th? You made it?Phil Libin:July 7th, also known as June 37th. Originally the joke it was, I told investors that was going to launch in June, that the beta was going to launch in June. Then we actually looked at the schedule and how much work we had to do. We're like, well, okay. June 30th. The last day in June. I wanted to make sure I was true to my word. We decided to launch it on June 30th, but then we realized that that was right before the 4th of July weekend, which in the US you don't want to launch right before then, because I want employees to be able to enjoy the weekend without the death march of saying, "Oh, we just launched and there's bugs and whatever." so we decided to just postpone it by a week, but at that point I already told investors sometime in June. It was easy to just say, well, June 37.Fabian Geyrhalter:Since then, what has been the biggest success? Or how do you or will you measure success with Mmhmm?Phil Libin:It's way too early. We're only a few weeks into this. We're only a month old or something, depending on when this airs. Way too early to declare any success, the way we measure, the way we're going to measure success is impact. What we care about is making the world a little bit better, because our product exists in it, than it would be if a product didn't exist in it. For Mmhmm specifically, that's about getting into the hands of people whose careers lives, jobs, art, whatever will be enhanced, will be improved, because they've got access to this product. It's really a community measure of success. We are starting to, very early days, but starting to work very carefully about getting this into schools, into the hands of teachers and students, but also to artists, and performers, and entrepreneurs. At least in the beta, we want use cases of people who can literally say, "Something important in my life, my job, my career, and my art, my studies, my teaching, something important to me was made better, because I used this product." once we have that, then we can think about, can we make that true for 10 people, for 10 million people, for a billion people, the scaling comes after the impact.Fabian Geyrhalter:I like that. This is only one of many products that share your vision of making entrepreneurship get the job done, as you call it, with your company All Turtles. How did the All Turtles name come about? It is definitely a very unusual name and I assume you're not all moving extremely slowly in your software development. Besides June 37th, but tell me the story behind the Turtles.Phil Libin:I think it was almost a dry run for Mmhmm, I wanted something unusual. What we're doing at All Turtles is I think a fairly unique model. It's very easy to compare us to other things that feel like they're similar to it. Various incubators, and accelerators, and labs. That's inevitable, of course, we're going to be compared to that and that's fine at the end of the day, everyone wants to compare things to everything else. It's okay, but we wanted an unusual enough name so that it added some friction. I wanted a name that was so unusual that it forced you to make a new box in your head to put it in, so that it wasn't natural to like, oh, okay, it's one of these.And stick it into the box next to other things. Obviously, that's asking a lot for a name. We don't expect the name to do quite that much heavy lifting, but that was the philosophy behind it. It comes from turtles all the way down, which is, I think it's a Bertrand Russell anecdote or reference, it's probably apocryphal, but the idea is Bertrand Russell was giving a lecture about the structure of the solar system. At the end, everyone claps, but except there's one old woman that gets up. In the story, it's always an old woman, because old stories are always misogynists. In fact, when I was telling the origin story originally, I was to say, and then this old person gets up. Then my confounder, Jessica, was going to be corrected and be like, "No, the story is old woman, because [crosstalk 00:21:06] misogynist. Don't mask that just say old woman." you're right. Whenever I disagree with Jessica, like 98% of the time, she's right. A good quality to have in cofounders.This old woman gets up and says, "Oh, everyone knows that this is totally wrong, what you said, because really the earth rests on the back of a giant turtle." and he says, "Well, that doesn't make any sense. If that's true, then what's the turtle resting on?" and she says, "Everyone knows that! It's turtles all the way down." it comes from that, it's turtles all the way down. Whatever we've built, we did it, because we stand on the shoulders of the people who came before us. We hopefully support the next generation of people who are going to build the stuff on top of what we make.Fabian Geyrhalter:It's a nice story. Of course, when you go to allturtles.com, all you see is All Turtles. Literally it is a site about turtlesPhil Libin:That is not our website, but yeah, that's true. Our website is all hyphen turtles.com. [crosstalk 00:22:06] turtles URLs.Fabian Geyrhalter:Which brings me to the ever-fascinating topic of mine. How important is having a dot com to a brand these days, in your opinion? Everyone knows my opinion, but in your opinion, how do you advise startups on this?Phil Libin:Look. I don't think it's that important. I know you think you do it is. I think, look, it's nice to have, but if you look at the list of 10,000 things that are nice to have, or even 20 things that are nice to have, I wouldn't rate this in the top five. I just don't think that most entrepreneurs have time to work on anything other than the top five most important things. Until they do, until you're much bigger and better resourced and whatever. I would say, I would try to get the dot com and if you can get a great, and if you can't, I wouldn't let that block you from doing something. Definitely don't fixate on that.Fabian Geyrhalter:It's not in your top three or five criteria for having a .com domain?Phil Libin:It's not in the most critical things. I would much rather have a great brand and not have the.dot com URL than a mediocre brand and have the dot com URL. That's clear to me, at least.Fabian Geyrhalter:Did you knock on the turtles website and ask if the domain might be available?Phil Libin:I think we tried to. I think we actually made some progress with the person. They disappeared or something and we had more important things to do, so I don't know. Some day. I'm not opposed to having it. I just don't think [crosstalk 00:23:45]Fabian Geyrhalter:I think it's always so fascinating, because as of late, and that might also talk a little bit about the trend in this and that I might be able to wrong fixating on the dot com very much with branding work, is I interviewed these founders and they have amazing brands, like yourself. Then I go to the website and it is horrible, horrible, horrible website work of someone that owns a domain name, but it's pathetic. It's something where you know, this is just someone who has a hobby and who hasn't attended to the website since the days of Netscape. Yet they don't even get back to your emails. They're not interested in making a quick buck for a website where no one goes to it! It's fascinating for me, but now that we have already entered the animal kingdom with All Turtles, why don't we talk about Evernote? How Evernote got an elephant as its logo, because I definitely want to check that off our today.Phil Libin:That was the other reason for All Turtles is that Bertrand Russell origin story refers to the Hindu, it was some version of Chinese and some version of Hindu origin, cosmology creation myth where the earth is actually standing in the back of a giant elephant and the elephant stands on the turtles. Then it's turtles all the way down from there. My previous company was an elephant and the next fundamental animal is the turtle, so it made sense. Then it's turtles all the way down, so it's going to be All Turtles from now on. That was the little bit more esoteric reason.Fabian Geyrhalter:The logo, that's the story behind the elephant and why the elephant was chosen for Evernote?Phil Libin:I didn't name it. I didn't pick the name, the name existed before and I wasn't that crazy about the name. I thought it was okay, but basically, at that point it wasn't worth changing. It was fine.Fabian Geyrhalter:A little too descriptive for Phil?Phil Libin:I think that's right. I think basically, the framework I like for naming, which we don't really follow ourselves, but it's fun to know about it. The thing I recommend that people read is the Igor Naming Guide, which talks about four different types of names. I think it's useful to read it, even if you don't follow it, which we don't really follow it, but it's useful to read it just to understand the vocabulary, so that you can have a discussion about names. You at least have the right words to use, because it's hard to do it. There's so much philosophy and theory behind it. It's hard to have a general discussion without the basic vocabulary.It's useful for that, but Evernote, to me, feels a little bit too functional, but obviously having said that the name worked out great, but the other lesson from that is the name is just one part of the brand. The name isn't necessarily the most part of the brand. It's one part of the brand. The logos is a big part of the brand, the whole identity, the fonts, the colors, the brand voice, how you talk about it. These are all brand. You assemble a brand out of all these things intentionally and very rarely do you have the luxury of choosing every element of a brand at the same time. We had that luxury at Mmhmm, but it's really rare, where we could say, we can control everything. We can control the name, the colors, the logo, everything. We set the voice, all of it. The vast majority of the time, you don't quite have that luxury. With Evernote, we did it so that the name was there, but we did everything else.Fabian Geyrhalter:The logo with the elephant, to a regular user, it seems pretty far fetched to understand what the Evernote has to do with the actual app. How was that story conveyed or did it even matter and it just became a symbol that was, quote, unquote symbolic from the get-go and it was so different?Phil Libin:We hired this amazing designer, Gabe [Combdako 00:27:55], in the early days of Evernote to help us think through the identity. Ex Apple person and he's currently the lead product designer for Mmhmm and All Turtles, actually.. Still working with him, what's it been now? 14 years later or something. The most important thing is once you find amazingly talented people, do everything possible to stay in their economic orbit. This is the main thing that I do, is I try to find every possible way to keep a group of hyper talented people together, because you can walk through walls with them. You just need to have an appropriately reasonable destination and you can get there.We hired Gabe and we went through a process. We had lots of different options. There's, I think, presentations of me online talking about it, but didn't start out as an elephant. There was lots of options we considered. In fact, he came back with a few different options, including a couple of elephant treatments, which we rejected, because the group that I set up to try to figure out the logo said the elephant is too dangerous to go with, because there's too many negative connotations, "Oh, it's slow and it's big, feels [inaudible 00:29:14], blah, blah, blah." I liked it, because elephants are very good memories, an elephant never forgets, I thought Evernote was about remembering things, that was the connection, but we rejected the elephant, because it was the most bad of the designs and we wind up going with something really boring.Then basically I woke up the next day after that decision was made and it didn't feel right to me. I think we picked the safe choice and I just didn't feel right, but we back and said, "Let's go with an elephant, but we need a few more iterations of the elephant." and the elephant itself, we had literally a hundred different versions of the elephant. There's pictures floating around of different elephant versions. We went through lots of different ones. For a while, it looked too much like the Republican party elephants. We panicked and said, "We got to make sure that it doesn't look like it's the Republican elephant. It's a totally different elephant." but eventually we came up on this one and it was great.It was a by far the best decision early on that we made this logo, this identity for Evernote probably got us literally a hundred, $200 million worth of free publicity and marketing by Apple, by Google, by Samsung, but all of these companies that were putting up app stores and platforms, and they all just featured us, because we had a pretty good product, but I think equally as importantly, because we had an amazing looking identity that they were just like, it looked better than the app icons and logos of other stuff that they would put up. We would get into every single poster, marketing campaign, whatever, because it was a good product, but also, because it looked really good. That was by far the best few thousand dollars that we spent. The ROI of that was pretty incredible.Fabian Geyrhalter:It's so difficult to show ROI with a brand identity, or with a brand name. It's really difficult. I love that you say that, because it is measurable. What I also really, really like is that you, throughout the entire episode today, you really talk about how a safe choice is most often not a great choice. As you know, with most of corporate America, that is absolutely the other way around with decision making when it comes to name, when it comes to brand, when it comes to all of those pretty intrinsic ideas that they come out and very often they end up being a little bit too meh.That is the lesson that just everyone has to hear over and over again. Coming from someone who sold their software development company for $26 million 20 years ago. Then you co-founded Evernote. Now you're kicking serious butt with All Turtles, and it looks like with Mmhmm. Obviously you did plenty of things in between. These days, you also mentor startups on a lot of topics, including branding. I want to circle back to that, you already started talking about it, but what does branding mean to you after everything that you have branded in your life and that you've been through what does branding as word, because it gets pretty bad rap, very often the idea of branding, especially with startups. It seems like it's a waste of time. It's a waste of money, but you and I both know if you actually do something that's really outstanding, it can be a huge game-changer for a startup.Phil Libin:This is the lesson that I keep learning again and again in life. Maybe I'm starting to demonstrate learning behavior and actually like internalize it, but I'm an engineer, by background. I'm a programmer, computer scientists, computer nerd. I had a very large amount of disrespect early on in my life and career for anything that had to do with marketing, with branding, with intellectual property. I didn't like any of that stuff. I had the typical nerd, programmer approach, like, hey the programming is the real work and everything else is marketing, blah, hate it. Then I started working with people who were much smarter than I was in these fields. At Evernote, the person that ran our marketing was Andrew [Sincove 00:33:17] he's a big, important person at Etsy right now. [inaudible 00:33:24] the lesson from him.He was like, "Look, yeah. When you say marketing is stupid, what you mean is bad marketing is stupid and it is, and the vast majority of companies have really bad marketing and it's really stupid. If your attitude is marketing stupid, you're going to get bad marketing. You're going to prove yourself to be right. Good marketing is actually amazingly important, just as important as anything else. Shut up and let's do some good marketing and you'll see." and I was like, wow, absolutely. That's totally right. The same is true as naming and the same is true with branding. If you do it badly, it's dumb, but if you go in with the expectation that it's going to be bad, then yeah. It's going to be bad and it's going to be dumb.I felt that bias, that engineering bias, but my eyes were opened repeatedly by various people that I work with about this. Same thing with intellectual property. Leonid [inaudible 00:34:18] has been working with us on IP for more than a decade now, since Evernote days. I would get into these big arguments with him about patents, like patents are stupid. Patents are bad for the world. The IP industry is terrible. He was like, "Bad patents are bad, good patents are good." patents that are written to be either poorly or specifically written to be bad for the world and not actually describe anything and try to do all this stuff. Yeah, those are really bad.Let's not do those. Let's do good ones. This philosophy, again, I'm not smart enough to understand that from the first time was explained to me, so it has to be explained to me over and over again, but it's fundamentally true. Definitely feels this way with brand, with everything else. Now I think that you're making a product, you're making a company, the brand is, at the end of the day, I don't know if it's the most important thing, but it's in that package of most important things. It's so important that it's hard to separate from anything else. It's hard to separate from the team, it's hard to separate from the product design. Those are all areas. The product design, the team design, the culture, the brand, they're all so amazingly central and important that, if you do them right, they're inseparable and you definitely need to have the appreciation of what all of them mean.Fabian Geyrhalter:Listen, I promised you I'm only going to take that much of your time. Most important. Listeners who want to learn more about Mmhmm or get an invite to be a beta user, where and how can they go about that?Phil Libin:You can just sign up at mmhmm.app, M-M-H-M-M dot app. I like palindromes. That's one of the names. I like names that are the same forward and backwards. Go there and sign up. We are inviting people, hopefully pretty rapidly. We're sending out invites every day. There's always a wait list, but we're sending out invites every day and we are planning on going live, full general availability release. It's Mac only for now, for this stage of the beta, but a Windows version is coming and we're planning on being live on Mac and Windows this fall. Not too long to wait until it's generally available for everyone.Fabian Geyrhalter:Especially in 2020, it seems to go by rather quickly, which is a really, really good thing. I would say. Phil, thank you so much for having taken the time. Really appreciate your insights. This was absolutely amazing.Phil Libin:Thank you. That was super fun to talk to you.

Product design is collaborative, but with extended shelter-in-place guidelines, teams have had to reassess what it means to work together. Figma is one of the best tools for product creators working remotely, but even before we were relegated to our homes, Figma had become essential to us at All Turtles because of its intuitive features. Figma's Director of Product Sho Kuwamoto joins us today to walk through how they continue to iterate on the creation of indispensable tools.    Show notes Sho Kuwamoto is the Director of Product at Figma. Figma has its own guidelines for remote design process. Figma recently raised its series D.     We want to hear from you Please send us your comments, suggested topics, and listener questions for future All Turtles Podcast episodes.  Email: hello@all-turtles.com Twitter: @allturtlesco

Bio Bärí A. Williams is an attorney and startup advisor, previously served as Vice President of Legal, Policy, and Business Affairs at All Turtles, an artificial intelligence studio. Her primary practice areas include emerging technology transactions, privacy and data protection, and terms of service. She is the former Head of Business Operations Management for North America at StubHub, where she was responsible for business planning and operations to manage and oversee technical internal and external metrics, product innovation, and partnerships and drive P&L results across the company. Prior to StubHub, Bärí was a senior commercial attorney at Facebook supporting internet.org connectivity efforts, building drones, satellites, and lasers, and supporting the company's supply chain. She also successfully took on the passion project of creating and implementing Facebook’s Supplier Diversity Program, launched in October 2016. She has served as an advisor to startups in the enterprise and e-commerce space, including Blavity (and AfroTech), Bandwagon, Owl, and Telepath.    Bärí is a graduate of the University of California, Berkeley (BA, Mass Communications), St. Mary’s College of California (MBA), the University of California, Los Angeles (MA, African-American Studies), and the University of California, Hastings College of Law (JD). She is also a published author with bylines in the New York Times, WIRED, Fortune, and Fast Company. She recently gave congressional testimony on bias in AI in financial services in Feb. 2020. Her book, Diversity in the Workplace: Eye-Opening Interviews to Jumpstart Conversations About Identity, Privilege, and Bias, will be released on March 31.     Resources Human Interest Bärí Williams, Diversity in the Workplace: Eye-Opening Interviews to Jumpstart Conversations about Identity, Privilege, and Bias (2020) Bärí A. Williams News Roundup   Tech responds to coronavirus   Tech giants are responding to coronavirus fears as Amazon reported that an employee contracted the illness.   Facebook has cancelled its annual participation in SXSW. The social media giant has also pledged to give the World Health Organization as many free ads as needed to combat the virus.   And Google has canceled its annual I/O developer conference which was scheduled for May 12th and 14th. Google has also halted international travel for employees.   NYPD to remove innocents’ DNA profiles from its database   The New York City Police Department has said that it will remove DNA profiles of individuals who haven’t been convicted of any crimes. The New York Times reports that some 82,000 DNA profiles in the NYPD’s database belong to non-criminals. NYPD had detained and collected DNA evidence from kids as young as 12. The Times reports that officers once offered a 12-year-old a soda during questioning then collected the boy’s DNA from the straw. Many other individuals who were merely questioned, who weren’t convicted or in many cases not even arrested, also had their DNA collected. The database will be purged in the coming weeks and, going further, the NYPD will collect DNA from children only in cases involving felonies, sex crimes, gun charges, and hate crimes.   House seeks info from Ring on surveillance     Raja Krishnamoorthi, the Chairman of the House Subcommittee on Economic and Consumer Policy wrote Amazon VP of Public Policy Brian Huseman requesting extensive information regarding its home security subsidiary Ring’s partnerships with law enforcement to surveil communities with Ring’s footage. Back in August, Ring began disclosing the police departments it has been working with which, as of today, includes some 967 police departments nationwide. In the DC area, participating police departments include Takoma Park, Bladensburg, Seat Pleasant, Prince George’s in Maryland, and, in Virginia, Alexandria’s Police Department is working with Ring.   Judge: Instacart cannot misclassify workers as independent contractors   A San Diego judge has found that Instacart cannot misclassify workers as independent contractors. In granting a preliminary injunction against Instacart, the judge ruled to enforce the new AB5 law which seeks to ensure that gig workers are classified as employees in order to access benefits and have the right to form a union. NBC News has more.   Democrats split on cybersecurity   The Hill reports that Democrats are split on what to do about reauthorizing the USA Freedom Act, the cybersecurity bill put in place following Edward Snowden’s revelation that the National Security Agency was storing millions of Americans’ phone numbers. Adam Schiff and Jerrold Nadler are spearheading efforts to reauthorize the bill while more liberal Democrats, including Zoe Lofgren, are seeking more privacy protections. Many of Schiff’s allies during the impeachment hearing are now opposing his efforts to reauthorize the cyber bill and, interestingly, the White House has also weighed in saying the President, including Attorney General Barr, wants the full bill reauthorized without changes. The disputed changes involve the extent to which there should be more transparency in how the FISA court operates with regard to surveillance.  

In this series, we are exploring the topic of women in technology and innovation. Through engaging conversations with female leaders in Silicon Valley, we discuss timely topics such as the importance of diversity and representation in product development, female founders and funders, as well as the importance of leadership, mentoring and giving back. In Episode 1, join Samantha Walravens for a discussion with Bärí A. Williams, VP of Legal, Business, and Policy Affairs at All Turtles and Jossie Haines, Platform Engineering Director at Tile about why diversity matters in the world of technology and innovation.

This episode unpacks the nuances of a choice too many people have to make. In conversation with Jessica Collier, CEO of Spot and Cofounder of All Turtles, we share personal experience, new research, and essential recommendations for responding to and preventing workplace harassment and discrimination. - Spot: talktospot.com - All Turtles: all-turtles.com - Cocoon: the-cocoon.co

In many ways, the future of fertility is closely tied to the future of work, as companies determine how to best ensure that their employees are holistically supported. Employers have a unique and important role to play when it comes to access to fertility care, especially in the U.S. where 150 million people get their health coverage through employers. Carrot is a fertility benefits company solving the growing problem of access to inclusive fertility care.  Show notes Conversation with Tammy Sun (0:35) Tammy is the cofounder and CEO of Carrot.  Carrot is a global fertility benefits company.  More females above the age of 30 are giving birth than females below the age of 30. Carrot has been global from the start and is operational in over 40 countries today.     Listener question From Leah via email: “I recently listened to another podcast - Tales of Silicon Valley - which talked about the 10's of thousands of people who are employed as contract workers by Facebook and other companies to act as 'human filters' for social media sites. These individuals are exposed to horrific images repeatedly all day, every day in order to keep the sites clean and safe for public consumption. I was greatly disturbed by the realization that in order to protect me from seeing these images, a subset of the population has the grueling task of looking at photos posted by the worst of humanity and clicking ‘Ignore, Delete, or Escalate.'  I immediately thought back to the conversation Phil and Brittney had during their SciFi-preneurship - another amazing All Turtles podcast series! They spoke about The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas by Ursula Le Guin where all the world is at peace except for the suffering of one child. Since learning about these human filters, I've struggled with the moral dilemma: There are people suffering so that I can enjoy looking at family and friends' pictures and posts. I see these human filters as necessary 'for the greater good' because AI is not advanced enough to protect the public- however, this is definitely a role where AI can be a force for good. My question is this: Do you think we'll ever get there? Will technology become so skilled it can accurately block gruesome, inappropriate, hateful images and speech? And if so, how long will it take? The narrator Danny Fortson didn't seem to think it was possible.”   We want to hear from you. Please send us your comments, suggested topics, and listener questions for future All Turtles Podcast episodes.  Email: hello@all-turtles.com Twitter: @allturtlesco

Spot is an All Turtles product that's ushering in the future of work by using technology to build better environments for employees. It's a software solution for tackling harassment and discrimination in the workplace with an AI reporting tool. We've discussed Spot on the podcast before, but today, Spot's CEO Jessica Collier is talking to design lead Micah Rivera and editorial lead Kelly Chen about how they designed, built and launched a new harassment training feature.  Show notes Conversation with the Spot team (0:43) Jessica Collier is the cofounder of All Turtles and CEO of Spot. Micah Rivera is the Lead Designer at Spot.  Kelly Chen manages editorial content for Spot. Spot is an All Turtles product that provides workplace harassment training and anonymous reporting.  Spot's new training new sexual harassment training combines inclusive scenarios, insightful survey questions, and anonymous reporting.    Listener question "Any plans to mention on the podcast that October is Cyber Security Awareness Month?"   We want to hear from you. Please send us your comments, suggested topics, and listener questions for future All Turtles Podcast episodes.  Email: hello@all-turtles.com Twitter: @allturtlesco

For some, tongue twisters are simply amusing ways to pass the time, but Dairien Boyd and other designers at All Turtles knew that these verses had value: they could help people practicing a new language perfect their pronunciation, or give someone working on public speaking skills a way to work on their enunciation. Dairien and his team built Twisty Tongue as a fun game that anyone can play, and on this episode, he articulates his design philosophy for creating this app and others. Show notes Conversation with Dairien Boyd (0:52) Dairien Boyd is All Turtles' Principal Designer. Twisty Tongue is a tongue twister app for playing tongue twister games and practicing English language pronunciation.    Figma is a collaborative design tool that Dairien and the All Turtles designers love to use.    We want to hear from you. Please send us your comments, suggested topics, and listener questions for future All Turtles Podcast episodes.  Email: hello@all-turtles.com Twitter: @allturtlesco

Phil Libin, CEO of All Turtles, discusses how his company takes an alternate path to the Silicon Valley startup approach while pursuing artificial intelligence solutions. Read more: https://mackinstitute.wharton.upenn.edu/2019/all-turtles-phil-libin/ See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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