Podcast appearances and mentions of Charles King

This week on The Audit Podcast, we've gathered the best moments from our conversations with Agentic AI experts—featuring standout insights from Charles King, John Thompson, and Andrew Clark.   Be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok.   Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel.   Timecodes:   4:46- Charles King: Understanding the Fundamentals of Agentic AI   7:52 - John Thompson: Using Agents to Help Auditors Focus on What Matters Most   11:28 - Andrew Clark: Challenging the Conventional Thinking on Agentic AI   19:06 - Trent Russell: How Audits Fit Into the World of Agentic AI   *   This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype.  Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.  

This week Harrison will review "The Broadway Melody (1929)" starring Anita Page, Bessie Love, and Charles King and directed by Harry Beaumont#thebroadwaymelody #anitapage #bessielove #charlesking #harrybeaumont #reelyoldmoviesJoin my Discord!: https://discord.gg/VWcP6ge2Donate to my Streamlab here: https://streamlabs.com/sl_id_ff883caf-a8d0-3d7b-980b-9557565e1fe3/tipSocial Media Links: https://linktr.ee/reelyoldmovies

Even if you're not a fan of classical music, chances are you will have heard Handel's Messiah. Going behind the scenes of its creation, Charles King delves into the shifting politics of the Hanoverian court, the sex scandals of London's West End, and the surprising role of the transatlantic slave trade in financing the arts. Speaking to Elinor Evans, he reveals why, despite the complex circumstances of its creation, this legendary composition still resonates today. (Ad) Charles King is the author of Every Valley: The Story of Handel's Messiah (Bodley Head, 2024). Buy it now from Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Every-Valley-Story-Handels-Messiah/dp/1847928455/?tag=bbchistory045-21&ascsubtag=historyextra-social-histboty. The HistoryExtra podcast is produced by the team behind BBC History Magazine. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In today's episode, to kick off the new year, we're counting down your top 5 favorite episodes from 2024! From tackling AI risks and ethics to uncovering misleading greenwashing claims and exploring the next frontier of quantum computing, these episodes highlight the key issues shaping the internal audit profession. So, whether you're a longtime listener or new to All Things Internal Audit, grab a seat and join us as we revisit the episodes that made the biggest impact in 2024. Let the countdown begin! Episode 1: Tackling AI Risks and EthicsRobert Pérez, owner, Pérez Communication Solutions George Barham, director of standards & professional guidance, The IIA Episode 2: Governance and Ethical Dilemmas in AI David Petrisky, director, professional standards, The IIA Brian Willis, LBMC senior manager, cybersecurity advisor Charles King, managing director, advisory services, KPMG LLP Alex Gacheche, head of information security, Meta Ivan Martinez, managing director, internal audit, Goldman Sachs Ethan Rojhani, Grant Thornton principal, risk advisory services Wes Luckock, Grant Thornton senior manager, AI, automation and analytics Episode 3: Exposing Greenwashing Claims David Petrisky, director, professional standards, The IIA Edith Wong, forensic accountant in Investigations and Compliance, FTI Consulting Brian Wilmot, Compliance and Regulatory Counseling and Investigations and White Collar Defense Practices attorney at Paul Hastings LLP Episode 4: Quantum Computing's Impact on Internal Auditing Lynn Moehl, director of internal audit and chief audit executive, The IIA Nick Reese, co-founder and COO of Frontier Foundry & former director of emerging technology at Department of Homeland Security  Episode 5: Combating Financial Crime with AIRicardo Martinez, senior manager, Portfolio Strategy, The IIA Antonio Cacciapuoti, head of internal audit, Eurizon Alessandro Casarotti, forensic and anti-financial crime director, PwC Luxembourg Key Points:  Introduction [00:00:02 - 00:00:36] Episode 1: Tackling AI Risks and Ethics [00:00:38 - 00:06:27] Overview of the AI auditing framework [00:00:54 - 00:01:41] Building an understanding within the organization [00:01:41 - 00:02:42] Governance, management, and internal audit domains [00:02:42 - 00:04:25] Engagement and leveraging relationships [00:04:25 - 00:05:25] Tools and resources for practitioners [00:05:25 - 00:06:27] Episode 2: Governance and Ethical Dilemmas in AI [00:06:32 - 00:11:42] Introduction to AI governance and ethics [00:06:45 - 00:07:18] Addressing bias and ethical risks in AI [00:07:18 - 00:08:19] Monitoring and controlling AI models [00:08:19 - 00:09:20] Governance standards and independent monitoring [00:09:20 - 00:10:15] Challenges and strategies for maintaining ethical standards [00:10:15 - 00:11:42] Episode 3: Exposing Greenwashing Claims [00:12:04 - 00:16:50] Introduction to greenwashing [00:12:10 - 00:13:00] Legal and regulatory aspects of greenwashing [00:13:00 - 00:14:19] Examples of greenwashing cases [00:14:19 - 00:15:08] Vague environmental claims and their scrutiny [00:15:08 - 00:16:02] Risks and impacts of greenwashing on companies [00:16:02 - 00:16:50] Episode 4: Quantum Computing's Impact on Internal Auditing [00:17:00 - 00:22:58] ntroduction to quantum computing [00:17:04 - 00:17:34] Impact of quantum computing on internal auditing [00:17:34 - 00:18:23] Malicious use and cybersecurity risks [00:18:23 - 00:19:26] Current state and future potential of quantum computing [00:19:26 - 00:20:24] Security risks and workforce training for auditors [00:20:24 - 00:22:58] Episode 5: Combating Financial Crime with AI [00:23:03 - 00:26:37] Introduction to AI in financial crime detection [00:23:18 - 00:24:08] Benefits of AI in transaction monitoring [00:24:08 - 00:25:03] Screening systems and reducing false positives [00:25:03 - 00:25:52] Training AI systems and cybersecurity considerations [00:25:52 - 00:26:37] IIA Related Content: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Auditing Artificial Intelligence Course Demystifying AI: Internal Audit Use Cases for Applying New Technology The IIA's ESG Certificate Program  The IIA's Environmental, Social and Governance Knowledge Center The Big Idea: Quantum Computing Elevating Performance and Adding Value Get to Know the New Cybersecurity Topical Requirement Webinar Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple PodcastsSpotify LibsynDeezer

This week's episode, we're joined by Charles King, Internal Controls Leader in AI at KPMG US.   In this episode, Charles brings a unique perspective as both an AI expert and an audit professional, He looks back on key moments from 2024, talks about where organizations are on the maturity model, and unpacks the biggest topic of 2025: agents. Charles does a fantastic job breaking down what agents are and what they mean for audit professionals. Be sure to connect with Charles on LinkedIn.   Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok.   Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel.   Timecodes: 3:33 - ParentGPT 8:11 - AI's Role in Internal Auditing 18:04 - What's Next for AI in 2025 26:45 - Exploring the Future of AI Agents 38:11 - Final Thoughts   *   This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype.  Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.  

Charles King's new book "Every Valley" tells the backstory of "Messiah," a staple of the Christmas season widely considered George Frideric Handel's masterpiece. Then, musicologist Martin Clarke discusses the moment of musical ecstasy that accompanies a particular arrangement on "O come, all ye faithful." Find out why the "word of the father" chord has been called "the best chord of Christmas." Also WBUR editor Sara Shukla shares an appreciation of "The Muppet Christmas Carol," and reflects on why it's especially significant to her this year.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

In 2021, protestors stormed the U.S. Capitol and tried to overturn the presidential election. In that moment, author Charles King turned to Handel's Messiah.

  We welcome Charles King back to the program today for the final segment of a special three-part interview. Charles is a professor of International Affairs and Government at Georgetown University. His previous titles include Midnight at the Pera Palace and Gods of the Upper Air. Today we will continue to discuss Every Valley: The Desperate Lives and Troubled Times That Made Handel's Messiah which is published by Doubleday and was just named to the New York Times 100 Best Books of 2024 list.

How much do you know about Handel's Messiah? Find us on Youtube. It's easy to become anxious and worried as we see war and conflict increase. However, it is precisely in these moments, says historian Charles King, that true faith can find its voice. Reflecting on geopolitics, domestic polarization, and the quest for hope in the midst of suffering, King—New York Times bestselling author of Every Valley: The Desperate Lives and Troubled Times That Made Handel's Messiah—sits down with Clarissa Moll for a conversation about holding on to faith when life feels darkest.   GO DEEPER WITH THE BULLETIN: Music in this episode is courtesy of Calvin University's 2021 Messiah production. Watch it here.  Grab some Bulletin merch in our holiday store! Follow the show in your podcast app of choice. Find us on YouTube. Rate and review the show in your podcast app of choice. Leave a comment in Spotify with your feedback on the discussion—we may even respond! ABOUT THE GUEST:  Charles King is the author of the New York Times–bestselling Gods of the Upper Air, which received the Francis Parkman Prize and the Anisfield-Wolf Award and was shortlisted for the National Book Critics Circle Award, the Los Angeles Times History Prize, and the British Academy's Al-Rodhan Prize for Global Cultural Understanding. His other books include Odessa, winner of a National Jewish Book Award, and Midnight at the Pera Palace. He is professor of international affairs and government at Georgetown University, where he has served as chair of both the department of government and the Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service. ABOUT THE BULLETIN: The Bulletin is a weekly (and sometimes more!) current events show from Christianity Today hosted and moderated by Clarissa Moll, with senior commentary from Russell Moore (Christianity Today's editor in chief) and Mike Cosper (director, CT Media). Each week, the show explores current events and breaking news and shares a Christian perspective on issues that are shaping our world. We also offer special one-on-one conversations with writers, artists, and thought leaders whose impact on the world brings important significance to a Christian worldview, like Bono, Sharon McMahon, Harrison Scott Key, Frank Bruni, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We welcome Charles King back to the program today for the second of a special three-part interview. Charles is a professor of International Affairs and Government at Georgetown University. His previous titles include Midnight at the Pera Palace and Gods of the Upper Air. Today we will continue to discuss Every Valley: The Desperate Lives and Troubled Times That Made Handel's Messiah which is published by Doubleday, which was just named to the New York Times 100 Best Books of 2024 list. 

Charles King is a professor of International Affairs and Government at Georgetown University. He has written for academic audiences as well as the wider, general readership. His previous titles include Midnight at the Pera Palace and Gods of the Upper Air. In 2024, he brings us Every Valley: The Desperate Lives and Troubled Times That Made Handel's Messiah which is published by Doubleday.

Trey's Table Episode 125: Telling Our Stories: Charles King In this episode, I discuss the inspiring story of Charles D. King Profile: Charles D. King, Producer Of 'Judas And The Black Messiah' : NPRhttps://youtu.be/8VW7_8OqN8E?s...https://youtu.be/-c7uhX7yi1E?s...https://youtu.be/mzZTLT8WpcQ?s...https://www.nytimes.com/2017/1...

Charles King, father of our Associate Pastor April King, joined us on Sunday and delivered the sermon!

Peter Mingils interviews Dr. Charles King about MLM on International Marketing Part 2 of 2 on Building Fortunes Radio.  Building Fortunes Radio rebroadcasts Dr. Charles King on International MLM Growth Potential with Peter Mingils, the owner of NetworkLeads.com This is Part 1 of 2. https://www.networkleads.com and https://www.mlm.news and https://antimlm.news  Dr. Charles King passed away a number of years ago. His messages remain accurate and important today.  Peter Mingils, the owner of PM Marketing and Building Fortunes Radio was a student of Dr Charles King's MLM certification course in 1997. Peter Mingils later became an instructor at that MLM Certification Course for a number of years focusing on Lead Generation for network Marketing. There are various training programs, courses, and certifications available for individuals interested in learning about MLM, network marketing, and direct selling. Some of these programs may be offered by MLM companies themselves, while others may be offered by third-party organizations or individuals. Beware of people that run courses or their mouth about topics they never engaged in. Specifically the Anti-MLM YouTubers and Academics. The Anti-MLM Confernence is an example: https://www.mlmconference.com Marco Moukhaiber is an example of an 'expert' who never was in an MLM. William Keep is the Professor who was demolished by Attorney Jeffery Babener in the Travel Max case on YouTube. See https://www.alwaysmarco.lol and https://marcomoukhaiber.com

Peter Mingils interviews Dr. Charles King about MLM on International Marketing Part 1 of 2 on Building Fortunes Radio.  Building Fortunes Radio rebroadcasts Dr. Charles King on International MLM Growth Potential with Peter Mingils, the owner of NetworkLeads.com This is Part 1 of 2. https://www.networkleads.com and https://www.mlm.news and https://antimlm.news  Dr. Charles King passed away a number of years ago. His messages remain accurate and important today.  Peter Mingils, the owner of PM Marketing and Building Fortunes Radio was a student of Dr Charles King's MLM certification course in 1997. Peter Mingils later became an instructor at that MLM Certification Course for a number of years focusing on Lead Generation for network Marketing. There are various training programs, courses, and certifications available for individuals interested in learning about MLM, network marketing, and direct selling. Some of these programs may be offered by MLM companies themselves, while others may be offered by third-party organizations or individuals. Beware of people that run courses or their mouth about topics they never engaged in. Specifically the Anti-MLM YouTubers and Academics. The Anti-MLM Confernence is an example: https://www.mlmconference.com Marco Moukhaiber is an example of an 'expert' who never was in an MLM. William Keep is the Professor who was demolished by Attorney Jeffery Babener in the Travel Max case on YouTube. See https://www.alwaysmarco.lol and https://marcomoukhaiber.com

All Things Internal Audit Tech: AI Governance & Ethical Considerations In this episode, hear from industry thought leaders about governance and ethical considerations of artificial intelligence usage in the internal audit profession. Experts discuss strategies to mitigate risks of sensitive data disclosure in public AI tools and emphasize the importance of governance and monitoring in AI implementation. They address ethical concerns, including preventing AI-generated risks and ensuring safe AI practices in applications involving human safety.  This conversation covers: Mitigating Risk of Sensitive Data Disclosure Governance and Monitoring in AI Importance of oversight and ethical auditing practices Preventing AI Hallucinations and Risks Strategies for ensuring ethical AI outputs through human intervention. Ensuring Safe AI Practices Addressing ethical and safety concerns in AI applications. Speakers:  Brian Willis, LBMC senior manager, cybersecurity advisor Charles King, Managing Director, Advisory Services, KPMG LLP Alex Gacheche, Head of Information Security, Meta Ivan Martinez, Managing Director, Internal Audit, Goldman Sachs Ethan Rojhani, Grant Thornton principal, risk advisory services Wes Luckock, Grant Thornton senior manager, AI, automation and analytics This episode is available on our website on our YouTube channel.

Welcome back to PART TWO of 'conversations with Leah Charles King. Shaley Hoogendoorn continues her inspiring conversation with Leah Charles King, a renowned TV presenter from the UK. Leah shares her journey of living with Bipolar II Disorder and the importance of smashing the stigma surrounding mental health. Leah discusses the common misconceptions about bipolar disorder and how society often views people with mental illness. She emphasizes the need for self-awareness and self-care to achieve mental wellness. The conversation delves into the challenges of managing bipolar disorder, the role of medication, and the importance of setting boundaries. Leah also reflects on her experiences in the TV industry and how media often misrepresents bipolar disorder. She shares her thoughts on how authentic representation can help break down stereotypes and foster understanding. Tune in to hear Leah's candid insights and learn how we can all contribute to a more inclusive and understanding world for those living with bipolar disorder. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in mental health advocacy and breaking down stigma. this is bipolar... Tune in for an inspiring listen and join the community on Instagram @this.is.bipolar. If you like or found this episode (or the podcast) helpful in anyway, please consider pressing the follow button &/or leaving us a 5 star review. It helps our podcast reach those that need it most.   A Few Things about Leah Charles-King: Almost 20 years mainstream experience in the media industry alone 1000's of hours of live unscripted TV presenting experience Countless speaking engagements as a host for prestigious events nationwide Produced and presented programs transmitted in Europe, USA and Africa Seen by a combined estimated TV audience of over 200 million viewers worldwide Producer credits for live and pre-recorded content for TV transmission Presented and appeared on ITV, BBC, BET, The Disney Channel, MTV, Sky1 and more Launched OHTV and BET International on UK television as their first on-screen talent First and only black female CITV continuity presenter in its 35 year history Has received 10 prestigious ‘Best Presenter” awards to date including Screen Nation Accomplished Voice Over artist for TV, Radio and Online advertisements and campaigns Corporate video presenter for high profile clients and brands Backing Vocalist for the likes of George Michael, Andreas Bocelli and Mary J Blige Female Activist for women in the creative industries with own initiative entitled “Wonder Women”; inspirational and networking events for International Women's Month. Has trained over 300 speakers and presenters at The Red Carpet Academy Personal Mentor to young women aged 18-28 years by offering internships at The Red Carpet Academy You can connect with Leah on her IG advocacy page @illuminatemh #Bipolar #bipolarDisorder #mentalhealth #mentalillness

The tiny microphones used inside hearing aids can be very sensitive to vibration of the device, resulting in annoying feedback. Testing how sensitive these microphones are to vibration has been a problem that plagued engineers. In this episode, we talk to Charles King and Chris Monti of Knowles Electronics about their innovation to measure microphone vibration sensitivity.Associated paper: Charles B. King and Chris Monti, "Microphone vibration sensitivity: What it is, why it is important, and how to measure it," Proc. Mtgs. Acoust. 50, 065001 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1121/2.0001702Read more from Proceedings of Meetings on Acoustics (POMA).Learn more about Acoustical Society of America Publications. Music Credit: Min 2019 by minwbu from Pixabay. https://pixabay.com/?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=1022

"this is bipolar' unveils another power-packed episode, featuring Shaley Hoogendoorn and TV presenter and Ambassador @bipolar_uk, Leah Charles King. Embodying strength and resilience, both women share their personal battles with bipolar disorder and their commitment to shattering mental health stigma. In a discussion that is both heartbreaking and hopeful, they underscore the impact of bipolar disorder, harnessing their own experiences to educate and inspire. With additional focus on racial disparities in dealing with mental health, Leah emphasizes the need to address mental health issues regardless of colour or creed. From childhood struggles with feeling out of place to her challenges in navigating the entertainment industry and understanding her mental condition, this episode offers a raw, honest, and powerful look at Leah's journey in dealing with bipolar disorder.   The episode also provides a heartfelt discussion about embracing life with bipolar disorder. By sharing their personal tales of trials and triumphs, Shaley and Leah remind everyone struggling with their mental health that there is a way to rebuild their life after diagnosis, and that having bipolar disorder doesn't define one's life. They underline the importance of self-love, faith, perseverance, and maintaining a solid support system.   Most importantly, Leah highlights the way she dealt with her mood shifts - from extreme depression to euphoria - which marks her experience with bipolar disorder. She encourages others to understand and support mental health, emphasizing the power of faith and hope.Through a shared narrative and unique perspective, these women offer an enlightening discussion about bipolar disorder and mental health as they continue their most rewarding mission to smash the stigma of mental illness.  this is bipolar... Tune in for an inspiring listen and join the community on Instagram @this.is.bipolar. If you like or found this episode (or the podcast) helpful in anyway, please consider pressing the follow button &/or leaving us a 5 star review. It helps our podcast reach those that need it most. Chapter Markers 00:04:20 Life Beyond the Bipolar Closet 00:09:23 Childhood Trauma & Early signs  00:14:03 From Girl Bands to Mental Health Advocacy 00:21:03 Strive for Excellence & Perfectionism 00:28:03 Finding Hope & Life After Diagnosis   Leah Charles-King Fact file: Almost 20 years mainstream experience in the media industry alone 1000's of hours of live unscripted TV presenting experience Countless speaking engagements as a host for prestigious events nationwide Produced and presented programs transmitted in Europe, USA and Africa Seen by a combined estimated TV audience of over 200 million viewers worldwide Producer credits for live and pre-recorded content for TV transmission Presented and appeared on ITV, BBC, BET, The Disney Channel, MTV, Sky1 and more Launched OHTV and BET International on UK television as their first on-screen talent First and only black female CITV continuity presenter in its 35 year history Has received 10 prestigious ‘Best Presenter” awards to date including Screen Nation Accomplished Voice Over artist for TV, Radio and Online advertisements and campaigns Corporate video presenter for high profile clients and brands Backing Vocalist for the likes of George Michael, Andreas Bocelli and Mary J Blige Female Activist for women in the creative industries with own initiative entitled “Wonder Women”; inspirational and networking events for International Women's Month. Has trained over 300 speakers and presenters at The Red Carpet Academy Personal Mentor to young women aged 18-28 years by offering internships at The Red Carpet Academy You can connect with Leah on her IG advocacy page @illuminatemh #Bipolar #bipolarDisorder #mentalhealth #mentalillness

Peter Mingils and Dr Charles King Part 2 on MLM  International Marketing on Building Fortunes Radio. Peter Mingils is on the Board of The MLMIA The Multi-level Marketing International Association. and Social Networking Association Previous board DSWA Direct Sales Womens Alliance https://www.dswa.org and past President of DRA The Distributor Rights Association and ANMP https://www.anmp.com  The Association of Network Marketing Professionals.Best mlm lead generation . Avoid MLM Ponzi Schemes and Pyramid Scams. Peter Mingils owns MLM Charity https://mlm.charity and  MLM News https://mlm.news (386) 445-3585 https://www.buildingfortunes.com is the Affiliate Program For MLM and network Marketing Leads https://www.networkleads.com 

Peter Mingils and Dr Charles King International Marketing MLM on Building Fortunes Radio.  Building Fortunes Radio rebroadcasts Dr. Charles King on International MLM Growth Potential with Peter Mingils, the owner of NetworkLeads.com This is Part 1 of 2. https://www.networkleads.com and https://www.mlm.news and https://antimlm.news  Dr. Charles King passed away a number of years ago. His messages remain accurate and important today.  Peter Mingils, the owner of PM Marketing and Building Fortunes Radio was a student of Dr Charles King's MLM certification course in 1997. Peter Mingils later became an instructor at that MLM Certification Course for a number of years focusing on Lead Generation for network Marketing. There are various training programs, courses, and certifications available for individuals interested in learning about MLM, network marketing, and direct selling. Some of these programs may be offered by MLM companies themselves, while others may be offered by third-party organizations or individuals. Beware of people that run courses or their mouth about topics they never engaged in. Specifically the Anti-MLM YouTubers and Academics. The Anti-MLM Confernence is an example: https://www.mlmconference.com Marco Moukhaiber is an example of an 'expert' who never was in an MLM. William Keep is the Professor who was demolished by Attorney Jeffery Babener in the Travel Max case on YouTube. See https://www.alwaysmarco.lol and https://marcomoukhaiber.com

BlueClaws pitcher Charles King got the last five outs for a save in his professional debut Saturday, a debut that has been a long time coming! The right-hander graduated from TCU with a biology degree before working for the Padres for two years as a pitching analyst. After changing paths, he decided he wanted to pitch again, so he went to Driveline this winter and ended up signing with the Phillies in February. He talks about his story, what he learned from his time as an analyst, his professional debut, and much more!

The sermon from the Evensong service for the Commemoration of St. Charles, King & Martyr, at St. Anselm Anglican Church on January 30, 2024. Sermon by the Rev. Sean S. Templeton, Rector

This week we explore unique wrestling personas, getting in fights, twitter bots and we revisit professional reviewist, Charles King. Please help our friend and Jortscentrist Laura if you can. https://gofund.me/92e54c8e https://podvoices.help https://donations4abortion.com Please help support our friend Tim! https://www.gofundme.com/f/tims-head-trauma-and-living-expenses Join our Peloton!   https://www.patreon.com/JortsCenter Facebook group  https://www.facebook.com/groups/342135897580300 Subreddit  https://www.reddit.com/r/jortscenter Follow us on Twitter at @JortsCenterPod  Will is @wapplehouse  Josh  is @otherjrobbins  Ryan is @ryhanbeard  Vic is @Dokktorvikktor  Dan  is @motleycruedetat

Charles King is a professor of international affairs and government at Georgetown University. His writings and commentary have been featured in The New York Times, Foreign Affairs, NPR, the BBC and CNN. He is an award-winning author of multiple books. Today we discuss his most recent work, Gods of the Upper Air.

Charles King, better known as Chad, began his professional career as a salesman for Xerox.  Within two years, he became a top producer.  While generating a 6-figure income from sales, he simultaneously studied successful individuals who possessed tremendous wealth.  He came to realize they all shared the commonality of real estate.  With that awareness, he jumped feet first into single-family wholesaling, fix/flip, completing over 400 deals in three years. This didn't provide the freedom and prosperity he dreamed of.  After finding the missing link he'd always been searching for, he transitioned to multifamily.  Through leveraging partnerships and syndications, Chad developed the financial freedom he'd dreamed of.  Today he owns several companies, and is an accomplished investor, coach, mentor, and teacher.   Main point:Many professionals have spent fortunes in education and training to attain positions and recognition in their fields.  They've done so because they have a calling to serve and find fulfillment in their work.  They're engaged and, though fulfilled, often swamped with professional and family obligations.  What would provoke them to take on real estate investing as yet another demand on their attention and time?Many professionals have, what is often considered generous retirement plans both company plans and private 401K and IRAs. Are those not sufficient to build wealth, provide a comfortable retirement, and even leave a legacy for their children?Where is a good place to begin if a successful professional with a comfortable lifestyle and rewarding career decides to explore further growing their wealth through real estate investing?Once a starting point is found, what suggestions do you have for a fulfilled professional, whether an educator, health care provider, architect, engineer, or whatever, to remain engaged in their career and simultaneously develop wealth through real estate investing?Do you have any stories of fulfilled professionals you've taught or coached who have successfully navigated the waters of professional engagement and real estate investing?You had a fulfilling professional career in sales.  Even though you still engage in sales, you left sales as a full-time profession.  When you decided to leave Xerox, you burnt the bridges, jumped in feet first, and hit the ground running.  What advice would you share with other professionals who might be considering leaving their professions and going into full-time real estate investing?Connect with Charles King:chad@titancapitalgroupllc.com

In this installment of the Classic City Business podcast, delve into the world of Orange Theory Athens with insights from Charles King and Tania Yeldon. Discover the essence of the 'Orange" "Theory", as they share expertise and unveil the individuals driving the brand's success. Join us as we explore the story behind the "Orange" sign.

In this episode of the Classic City Business podcast, delve into the world of Orange Theory Athens with insights from Charles King and Tania Yeldon. Discover the essence of Orange Theory, as they share expertise and unveil the individuals driving the brand's success. Join us as we explore the story behind the "orange" sign.

Welcome to Season 4! We start this season off with a slight departure from the norm in that our glorious producer takes a back seat and lets someone else drive for a change. We take a look this week at some of the things that affect us on Aseres Yemei Tshuva, and also delve into Elon Musk, Biden, and some of the happenings in Latin America. We wanted to wish all of our listeners, advertisers, co-workers and friends a Gmar Chasima Tova! We have a call-in number where you can hear the cast! Tell your friends and family who may not have internet access! 605-417-0303 Visit https://www.buymeacoffee.com/KiddushClub and buy us a coffee! Follow us: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kiddushclubpodcast/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/kiddushclubcast Join our WhatsApp chat: https://chat.whatsapp.com/HTWhnT1WiVFCioXjatEFi6 Send us you thoughts comments and suggestions via email: hock@kiddushclubpodcast.com

In order of appearance:• Jamie Schulze: Executive Director, SWAIA • Bo Joe: Navajo/Uté Silversmith (Booth # LIN W 757)• Barbara Teller Ornelas:  Navajo Weaver (Booth # LIN W 774)• Jared Chavez: San Felipe Silversmith (Booth # FR N 306)• Russell Sanchez: San Ildefonso Pueblo Potter (Booth # LIN E 711)• Kathleen Wall: Jemez Pueblo Pottery Artist  (Booth # PLZ 78)• Marla Allison: Laguna Pueblo Artist (Booth # LIN E 730)• Mateo Romero: Artist and Activist (Booth # LIN E 739)• Duane Maktima: Hopi/Laguna Silversmith• Susan Folwell: Santa Clara Pueblo Potter• Tony Abeyta: Navajo Oil PainterSo one of my favorite times of the year is the third week in August, because that's Indian Market weekend in Santa Fe. it's a remarkable event. You have a thousand different artisans show up in this big mix of culture and artwork.You have contemporary, you have traditional, all of it's made by the artisans. They all come together for this one weekend in Santa Fe. It's such a special event. I've been doing it since the early nineties and I would always bring my kids. Each of the children would get to pick out a piece to add to their collection. I highly encourage people to go and visit at least once. It's not only a special time for the collectors, but the artisans too. It's part of a tradition for so many families from across the country, Native artists that come and get to interact with collectors directly, which is wonderful because it's hard for them often because they may be living in remote areas.I've done a lot of podcasts over the last six years, and during those times I've interviewed lots of native artists that have participated in the Santa Fe Indian market. It's been a big part of their life and their family's life, so I figured it would be a great time during Indian Market weekend to rehash and take another look/listen to some of these different artists that we've had on the podcast over the years.I usually don't do podcasts that are in the moment. I like to do podcasts that'll be relevant during any time frame. In this case, I would like people to be able to go and visit these artists at Indian Market. So it's a wonderful kind of review of what Indian Market and Santa Fe as a whole is to so many different artists. We're also very blessed to be able to sponsor the Best of Show Award award for the next five years for SWAIA. I hope people go out and get to do what I've always done and love doing - connecting with and supporting amazing Native American artisans.We invite members of the media and influencers to take event photos and post them using the hashtag #santafeindianmarket.

It was Christmas of 1970, and Charles King and Christopher Lowery were watching a motorcycle race at Mack Park in Hamilton, Australia. Most 18-year-olds at the race that day were innocently chatting about bikes and beer. But Lowery and King were not most 18-year-olds, and they were talking about what it would be like to kill a girl. It was only a matter of time before they turned their thoughts into reality.Thanks for listening! Here's how you can get in touch with comments and suggestions: Website: https://www.prashganendran.comTwitter: @PrashsMurderMapFacebook PodcastFacebook Author PageInstagramEmail: prashsmurdermap@gmail.comWant to listen to Murder Casebook Volume 1 ? Check out the Audible Links to .COM AND .UKAUDIBLE USAUDIBLE UKI am an independent podcaster and produce these episodes from a spare bedroom in my home, so I would be extremely grateful for any donations, however small. This will go towards maintaining and upgrading my audio equipment, podcast hosting fees and licencing costs for any music and voices I use in my episodes. Thank you!CLICK HERE TO DONATE VIA PAYPALCredits: Research, writing, narration and audio editing by Prash"Long Note By Two" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/Rosalyn's Theme: Akihiko Knows by David CelesteNo part of this episode may be reproduced or copied in any form without the written permission of Prash's Murder MapSources · Deery, Shannon, “Revealed: Thrill killer Charles Ian King's secret past”, Herald Sun, Aug 2014, https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/true-crime-scene/revealed-thrill-killer-charles-ian-kings-secret-past/news-story/30d11cf31778a28697a796e262fcf58f ·Wright, Tony, “A young life cut short by casual savagery”, The Age, May 2011, https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/a-young-life-cut-short-by-casual-savagery-20110513-1em6c.html

The Black Sea is geopolitically significant as both a theater of trade and a theater of war. Russia's invasion of Ukraine shifted the traditional balance between Moscow and Ankara in the region and has led to an increased NATO presence there. Can the EU leverage its economic and foreign policy tools to expand its influence in the Black Sea?Thomas de Waal, a senior fellow with Carnegie Europe, and Dimitar Bechev, a visiting scholar at Carnegie Europe, discuss why the Black Sea is once again at the center of world events and what the future holds for the region.[00:00:00] Intro, [00:01:50] The Black Sea Today, [00:07:45] The Russian-Turkish Cohabitation [00.17.58] What Future for the Black Sea Region.Neal Ascherson, "Black Sea," Hill and Wang, Cambridge University Press, 1995Dimitar Bechev, February 28, 2023, “Sailing Through the Storm: Türkiye's Black Sea Strategy Amidst the Russian-Ukrainian War,” European Union Institute for Security Studies.Dimitar Bechev, February 27, 2023, “Facing tragedy, Turkey mends ties with Greece and Armenia,” Al Jazeera.Dimitar Bechev, April 13, 2022, “Russia, Turkey and the Spectre of Regional Instability,” Al Sharq Strategic Research.Dimitar Bechev, March 30, 2022, “Turkey's Response to the War in Ukraine,” Maple Institute.Thomas de Waal, July 07, 2022, “How Georgia Stumbled on the Road to Europe,” Foreign Policy.Thomas de Waal, June 09, 2022, “Georgia, Europe's Problem Child,” Carnegie Europe.Thomas de Waal, May 10, 2022, “A Fragile Stability in Moldova,” Carnegie Europe.Thomas de Waal, March 03, 2022, “Darkness Looms Over Ukraine's Neighborhood,” Carnegie Europe.Charles King, "The Black Sea: A History," Oxford University Press, 2005.

TRIGGER WARNING: Following episode contains conversation of self-harm. Leah Charles-King joins me this week to discuss her journey from being diagnosed with Bipolar 1 disorder. Taking us through from when she first recognised her symptoms, how she was diagnosed and how she deals with this being in the public eye.  You can follow Leah on Instagram here: @leahcharlesking Also check out her new account for Illuminate Mental Health: @illuminatemh Follow me on Instagram: @thebipolardiaries_ TikTok: @thebipolardiaries Also coming soon: thebipolardiaries.co.uk See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ray's Daughter A Story of Manila

Tonio, Son of the Sierras A Story of the Apache War

Each month, the TAD podcast features a short segment which we call our ‘Innovation Spotlight.' These brief interviews highlight the most exciting international innovations in the senior living sector, and this month we highlight our favourite, cutting-edge initiatives of 2022...those which we believe will have the biggest impact in care and dementia environments, and some which will undoubtedly add to the facilities being offered for retirement living. Guests: Dr. Bushra Saddiqi, CEO, CogniDx; Charles King, ROVR Systems; Kevin Gordon, VR-EP; Karl Emanuelsson, Sunwell Group Early dementia diagnosis and environmental support - CogniDx Virtual reality treadmills for different mobility levels - ROVR Systems Virtual reality system that demonstrates - to architects, designers, and care staff - the visual impairments of those living with dementia - VR-EP Natural sunlight systems for light therapy, wellbeing and to create new life experiences - Sunwell For links to the resources named in this and past episodes, head over to our podcast page at ThirdAge.Design. You'll be able to pick up the transcript of this and past podcasts, too. And, while you're there, be sure to hit the Join Us! button to become part of our community and benefit from sharing essential information on senior environments...along with exclusive content! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/third-age-design/message

Have you ever wondered how to prune a plant that seems "too far gone"? Maybe you wanted to make a hedge smaller, but all the foliage was on the outside and only woody stems can be found in the middle of the shrub, where you want to prune to. Or maybe you've got a caney plant with multiple leaders coming from a common base, and you're wondering how to cut it down a few sizes without turning it into a dome shape with the petrol hedger.In this episode, Texas garden expert Charles King Sadler comes on the show to teach us how to prune for restoration, revenuation or renewal, and what the difference is between those three terms.EPISODE LINKSPruning guide by Charles: https://kinggardeninc.com/reno-pruningKing Garden's website: https://kinggardeninc.com/garden-restorationKing Garden's online courses: https://kinggardeninc.com/online-coursesIn The Landscape podcast: https://kinggardeninc.com/in-the-landscapeCharles's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charleskingsadler/Plant Amnesty YouTube tree pruning playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtKmsyb70UY&list=PLIx1kUNmJkp5BGGSh6K4HDjOE0MmkrzIWFurther pruning resources the Charles would like to share:https://hort.ifas.ufl.edu/woody/pruning.shtmlhttps://hort.ifas.ufl.edu/woody/restore.shtmlhttps://hortnews.extension.iastate.edu/pruning-large-overgrown-shrubshttps://kinggardeninc.com/hedgeshttps://www.thisoldhouse.com/platform/amp/landscaping/21018488/shrub-pruning-dos-and-don-tsSearch for horticulture jobs: HortPeople.comFOLLOW US ON SOCIAL MEDIATwitter: @PlantsGrowHere / Facebook: @PlantsGrowHerePodcast - Join our Facebook group!VISIT OUR WEBSITEwww.PlantsGrowHere.comYou'll find heaps of educational blog articles, including How To Prune For Natural Shape, What Relationships Do Plants Have With Other Organisms?, and What Is Healthy Soil, And How Can We Build It?.LET'S WORK TOGETHERAre you in the industry or an enthusiast with something of value to share? We're always on the hunt for interesting people, doing interesting things. If you'd like to work with us send a message via our online form or a direct email to plantsgrowhere@gmail.com.

In this week's episode, Charles King of King Galleries and Virgil's manager Tish Agoyo joins us for a nice conversation on gallery representation, accepting help from others, and reflecting on the journey and powerful bond that developed with this crew over the years.   Today's episode is brought to you by the following sponsors: For the past 100 years, AMACO Brent has been creating ceramic supplies for our community ranging from underglazes to electric kilns, and they have no plans of slowing down. www.amaco.com   The Rosenfield Collection of Functional Ceramic Art is an on-line source for high quality research and inspiration, featuring images of thousands of objects made by over 800 artists. www.Rosenfieldcollection.com.

Gofundme link for former Junior Middleweight World Champion Tony Harrison's gym in Detroit, MI: https://gofund.me/af104879 Instagram: @punchlines_pod @shane_mcm @punchlinescooke YouTube: Punchlines! With Shane McMurdo Shane and Mike are joined by two special guests today! Friend of the show and recurring guest, nephew of Puerto Rican legend Felix "Tito" Trinidad, undefeated pro-boxer Joey Borrero! And especially grateful to have on the son of our newly gifted father and co-host Cooke, 10 day old Liam graced us with his presence. Joey talked to us about his upcoming fight on May 27th in Cheyenne, Wyoming. We also discussed this past weekend's huge upset of FORMER pound for pound number one fighter in the world, Saul "Canelo" Alvarez, at the hands of Dmitry Bivol. We also previewed the exciting and compelling rematch at 154 between Jermell Charlo and Brian Castano. Follow Joey on Instagram @boxingjoey !!! This week's song: "3 Things" by Charles King, Instagram: @charleskingmusic

Shane & Mike recap Fury-Whyte and give picks for Valdez-Stevenson, and Taylor-Serrano. Luke Thomas, from CBS Sports/Showtime, Joe Rogan MMA Show 98, talks boxing then and now as well as his career in the United States Marine Corps and his transition to combat sports journalism. You can catch Luke on his show "Morning Kombat" with Brian Campbell on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday at 11 AM e.t. Tickets to see my boy Will open for Bryan Callen at Wiseguys Comedy Las Vegas can be found at https://vegas.wiseguyscomedy.com/events/54499 Today's featured song "Lonely" by Charles King ft. Scotty Dub and Ivy can be found on Apple, Spotify, and Google Music. Instagram handles: Shane: shane_mcm Mike: punchlinescooke Luke: lukethomasnews Will: willhunsingercomedy Charles: charleskingmusic Scotty: scottydubofficial Ivy: ihateivy

In this episode, Paul explains why he orders extra rice at AYCE sushi. Charles KinG is a rapper, songwriter, videographer, and freestyle artist from Las Vegas. Dropping the debut album The R.O.S.E (Re-invention of Self Expression) after doing a complete rebrand and re-invention of himself as an artist. Formerly Known as Charlie Madness. The madness no longer exists as the KinG looks to bring a message in the music and create art that will live on for generations. Speaking on things like addiction, love, being a father and the struggles of being an independent artist. “As far as being an artist in general, just get used to the word ‘no'. Like, don't get discouraged and motherfuckers are gonna tell you ‘no' left and right. Like, if I didn't ever get told ‘no', I'd be a multimillionaire right now... I've come a long way. Just get used to the word no.” -Charles KinG Check out his newest album: Off With Their Heads A genuinely humble, in the way he carries himself and how he interacts with people he meets for the first time. He is open to giving advice to those who seek it. Ask him anything about his creative process, performing live, or going on tour. The first time we saw Charles KinG perform, we were amazed at his freestyle ability where he and Snap Murphy instructed the audience to pull something out their pockets so they can rap about it. First impression of Charles King is his humility, sense of humor, and his amazing talent. His storytelling and clever rhymes keeps us excited for what he releases next! Listen to Charles King on ALL Streaming Platforms Follow: @charleskingmusic YouTube Twitter Instagram ---- The episode is brought to you by the VegasBuilt App (@vegasbuilt)

Join us on Episode 19 as we look at evil children and read the story, A Birthday Present for Tommy, by Charles King.  We investigate Black-Eyed Children and Changelings. Think all children are cute and innocent? Listen to the podcast and find out... MusicFesliyan Studios, "Ghost Stories," "Sad Music," "Scary Atmosphere"Audio Jungle: "Halloween Waltzes"One Aloner: "Creepy Music Box"One Ensemble: "Demonic Lullaby"Narration: Robert BreaultPlease join us! Like and follow our Facebook page to become a patron of the Cemetery Hill Library, or (even better!), jump on our Patreon page and become a VIP Patron.                         Mugs, tee-shirts and eternal thanks await you!                                                                                           Patreon Page: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=61177769&fan_landing=trueWebpage: http://www.afterwordsparanormal.comFacebook: After Words Paranormal PodcastEmail: afterwordsstories@gmail.com

Tamara N. Houston is the founder of heritage development enterprise ICON MANN, a published author, and an entertainment producer. She and her organization are committed to direct engagement and working across channels from boardrooms to studio campaigns to original productions to positively rewrite and reposition the narrative of black men. But Tamara's love for the Black community and Black men is only part of what we explored during our conversation. We touch on everything from classic film, fashion, and the entertainment agency world to some of her early conversations with Hollywood stars like Idris Elba and Charles King. But ultimately, this episode is a love letter to Tamara and all the women who fight with and for us. We honor you all today and every day.  WE GIVE THESE FLOWERS IN COLLABORATION WITH McKinsey and Company and the McKinsey Institute for Black Economic Mobility. Their goal is to inspire, empower, and sustain action that leads to the economic development of Black communities across the globe.

Frank Schaeffer In Conversation with Charles King, Professor and Author of New York Times-bestselling Gods of the Upper Air._____LEARN MORE ABOUT CHARLES AT HIS WEBSITE OR ON TWITTER.ARTICLES:I, Too, Was Once a Soldier of the Apocalypse: Why White Evangelicals Must Choose Between Reform and American ExtremismThe Fulbright ParadoxRace and the Road to a New American Internationalism_____Charles King is the author of seven books, including the New York Times-bestselling GODS OF THE UPPER AIR (2019), winner of the Francis Parkman Prize and the Anisfield-Wolf Award, and finalist for the National Book Critics Circle award and the Los Angeles Times history prize; MIDNIGHT AT THE PERA PALACE (2014), a New York Times Editors' Choice and inspiration for an upcoming Netflix series of the same name; and ODESSA: GENIUS AND DEATH IN A CITY OF DREAMS (2011), winner of a National Jewish Book Award. He lectures widely on global affairs and has appeared on broadcast media such as NPR, PBS, MSNBC, and the BBC. A native of the Ozark hill country, King studied history and politics at the University of Arkansas and Oxford University, where he was a British Marshall Scholar. He is Professor of International Affairs and Government at Georgetown University, where he previously served as chair of the Department of Government and faculty chair of the Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service._____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of Fall In Love, Have Children, Stay Put, Save the Planet, Be Happy.Learn more at https://www.lovechildrenplanet.comFollow Frank on Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.https://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTubeIn Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer PodcastApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-conversation-with-frank-schaeffer/id1570357787Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1FVF48mNwzNaLd1tJ4zH6y?si=aeVQ54ieTA-hlSuMNB5APA&dl_branch=1_____Support the show

Frank Schaeffer In Conversation with Writer, Anthropologist, and Performer Maggie Paxson, exploring her book, The Plateau, and the wartime music of The Bomb Shelter Cafe._____CONNECT WITH MAGGIE ON INSTAGRAM._____Maggie Paxson is the author of The Plateau (Riverhead Books, 2019), which received the 2020 American Library in Paris Book Award for the "moral urgency of the questions it poses, for its ambitious efforts to connect France's past to its present, for its big heart, poetic writing and genre-defying structure." The Plateau was described by Oprah magazine as "radiant" and by the Washington Post as "a loving combination of personal memoir, historical investigation, and philosophical meditation." A writer, anthropologist, and performer, Paxson is also the author of Solovyovo: The Story of Memory in a Russian Village (Woodrow Wilson Center/Indiana University Press, 2005), a study of magic, ritual, and social memory in the rural Russian north. Her essays have appeared in TIME, Washington Post Magazine, Wilson Quarterly, and Aeon. Fluent in Russian and French, she has worked in rural communities in northern Russia, the Caucasus, and upland France. Paxson holds a bachelor's degree in anthropology from McGill University, and a Master of Science and Ph.D. in anthropology, both from the University of Montreal. She performs as a singer with the Imperial Palms Orchestra, one of the East Coast's leading big bands, featuring music of the 1920s through the 1940s. She has also launched a series of participatory events that she calls “Bomb Shelter Cafés,” inspired by the music and collective art of embattled communities during the Second World War. She lives in Washington, DC, with her husband, writer and historian Charles King._____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of Fall In Love, Have Children, Stay Put, Save the Planet, Be Happy.Learn more at https://www.lovechildrenplanet.comFollow Frank on Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.https://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTubeIn Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer PodcastApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-conversation-with-frank-schaeffer/id1570357787Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1FVF48mNwzNaLd1tJ4zH6y?si=aeVQ54ieTA-hlSuMNB5APA&dl_branch=1_____Support the show

This is Cognitive Revolution, my show about the personal side of the intellectual journey. Each week, I interview an eminent scientist, writer, or academic about the experiences that shaped their ideas. The show is available wherever you listen to podcasts.I first learned of Charles' work when I saw a notice for his most recent book—Gods of the Upper Air: How a Circle of Renegade Anthropologists Reinvented Race, Sex, and Gender in the Twentieth Century. I saw this, and I was like: a general audience book about the history of anthropology—sign me up! I preordered it straight away. As listeners of the show will know, even though I'm a psychologist by training I have a not so secret obsession with anthropologists. And as hoped, it turned out to be a great book. It tells a story about Franz Boaz, the father of American cultural anthropology—and his group of students that changed the face of anthropology in the first half of the twentieth century. This includes: Margaret Mead, Ruth Benedict, Zora Neale Hurston, Gregory Bateson, and a whole host of others. Charles is not a trained anthropologist. He's a professor of international affairs and government at Georgetown. But his wife is an anthropologist, and that's how he got turned on to this story. His initial interests were in former soviet states. In particular, one of his previous books was on the history of the Caucasus. And as some of you may also know, I spent the entire second year of my PhD taking Georgian language, and my partner and I often throw elaborate Georgian feasts serving Georgian wine and preparing a great deal of Georgian food. At any rate, it was clear to me that this was a guy I really wanted to meet and talk to. I really enjoyed our conversation, as I've certainly come to look up to Charles and his work in more ways than one.Like this episode? Here’s another one to check out:I’d love to know what you thought of this episode! Just reply to this email or send a note directly to my inbox. Feel free to tweet the show @CogRevPod or me @CodyKommers. You can also leave a rating for the show on iTunes (or another platform). This is super helpful, as high ratings are one of the biggest factors platforms look at in their recommender system algorithms. The better the ratings, the more they present the show to new potential listeners.Also: If you’d like to unsubscribe from these weekly podcast emails, you can do so while still remaining on the email list that features my weekly writing. Thanks for following my work! This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit codykommers.substack.com/subscribe

Hello and welcome to Secure The Insecure hosted by Johnny Seifert.In this episode we welcome back Leah Charles-King from A Place In The Sun, who you first heard on Episode 115. In this conversation we continue to reflect on her career with her work on Jackpot 24/7 and hosting A Place In The Sun. We also reflect on her mental health battle and being diagnosed with being Bi-Polar.If you are affected by what you have heard please visit www.bipolaruk.org and www.thesamaritans.org.uk A Place In The Sun airs on Channel 4 and catch up on All 4.If you want to get in contact with me I am on social media @johnnyseifert and @securetheinsecurepodcast.Remember it is okay to not be okay See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week, we had the honor of being joined by our great friend (and roommate to Jordan & Sheen), Charles King! Charles took on the challenge of sharing about processes and how God has worked through his transition from undergrad to current grad student and accounting intern at Hogan Taylor! If you are someone who is fresh into their post-grad phase, please have a listen! If you're not in that category, still have a listen! This one is a little different, but you will enjoy every second and maybe let out a little laugh towards the end! Keep in mind that our original mission has not changed. Higher Standard is not here to replace or supplement your relationship with God. Our only focus is to point you back to him (the source)! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/higher-standard/support

Charles King, the 2020 Anisfield-Wolf Book Awards winner for nonfiction, joins The Asterisk* to discuss the importance of practicing empathy, what it's like being married to an anthropologist, writing his books in the Library of Congress and what American authoritarianism looks like. A first-generation college student, King grew up on a small cattle farm in the Ozark foothills near Springdale, Arkansas. He studied history and philosophy at the University of Arkansas before becoming a British Marshall scholar at Oxford University. “Gods of the Upper Air” is a group portrait of four groundbreaking anthropologists – Zora Neale Hurston, Margaret Mead, Ruth Benedict and Ella Cara Deloria – and their mentor, the brilliant, eccentric German immigrant Franz Boas. The book “recounts nothing less than one of the epochal changes in the history of Western thought,” Harvard University psychologist Steven Pinker writes. “Today it's second nature for educated people to attribute differences in the fortunes of races, ethnic groups and sexes to ‘culture' rather than being the proper stations of people who were innately primitive or otherwise fitted to their roles.” King sat down with The Asterisk* in May 2021 from his home in Washington, D.C., where he lives with the anthropologist and author Margaret Paxson. He teaches international affairs and government at Georgetown University, where students have three times voted him professor of the year.

Kevin Gould is the founder and CEO of Kombo Ventures. Many people say they're the bridge between Hollywood and Silicon Valley, but Kevin's the real deal. We discuss why he outsourced his script coverage as a young talent agent, when he liquidated his IRA to start angel investing, how "sliding into DMs" helped him launch 3 beauty brands with $75 million in sales, and how I misjudged Kevin when we first met.Subscribe to our newsletter. We explore the intersection of media, technology, and commerce: sign-up linkLearn more about our market research and executive advisory: RockWater websiteFollow The Come Up on Twitter: @TCUpodEmail us: tcupod@wearerockwater.com--EPISODE TRANSCRIPT:Chris Erwin:Hi. I'm Chris Erwin. Welcome to The Come Up. A podcast that interviews entrepreneurs and leaders. Kevin Gould:I did two things. One was I played credit card arbitrage. The second was I think I had forgot what I had in my Roth IRA at the time and I cleared the Roth IRA account and cleared it out, and then took that money and invested in startups. Chris Erwin:This week's episode features Kevin Gould, the founder of Kombo Ventures and three direct to consumer beauty brands. Many people say they're the bridge between Hollywood and Silicon Valley, but Kevin's the real deal. He's also acutely aware of the value of his time. As a young talent agent in LA, Kevin actually outsourced his script coverage to his friends so he could fly up to the valley and meet with tech investors and CEOs.Early success drove Kevin to launch his own digital agency, Kombo Ventures. A key player in the YouTube and influencer revolution. At the same time, Kevin also began angel investing through a $40,000 cash advance against his credit card, but in 2018, Kevin wanted to go even bigger in digital. He began sliding into the DMs of up-and-coming beauty execs and pitching new business ideas. With just six figures of startup capital, Kevin launched three beauty brands, and just 18 months later, those brands now generate 75 million in annual sales.At the end of our interview, we talk about why Head of Live will soon be the hottest role in town. Getting called out on a Facebook earnings call by Sheryl Sandberg, and how I misjudged Kevin when we first met. All right. Let's get into it. Chris Erwin:All right. Kevin, let's rewind a bit. Why don't you tell me about where you grew up? Kevin Gould:I was born in Champaign, Illinois. Both my parents went to University of Illinois. I didn't live there for very long. I don't remember any of it. I was probably a year and a half old, and then I ended up moving to Greensboro, North Carolina where I spent pretty much my whole childhood through high school there, and so really call North Carolina home. Chris Erwin:Are your parents still in North Carolina today? Kevin Gould:No. My background on my parents. My dad is a professor of sports psychology. He also had a pretty extensive private consulting practice where he worked with a lot of athletes, and then my mom's a grief counselor. My dad ran the Sports Psychology Department at UNC Greensboro, which was a public college down in North Carolina. Then, after I graduated high school, he ended up going up to Michigan to Michigan State where he leads that department there still to this day. They're up in the cold now. Chris Erwin:Okay. Got it. What was it like growing up with a sports psychologist in the household? Were you like a big sports family? Were you a big sports fan yourself? Kevin Gould:Growing up I was a huge sports family. I think North Carolina is really known for basketball, so outside of Greensboro, you had Chapel Hill, you had Raleigh, you had Wake Forest, you had in that sort of like 90 mile radius. You had Carolina, Duke, NC State, Wake Forest. I also grew up in the era of Michael Jordan and the Bulls. I was a huge Bulls fan. It was really… Looking back it was really interesting having my dad as a sports psychologist. Kevin Gould:It's one of those things when you're a kid you don't fully appreciate it, right? Chris Erwin:Yeah. Kevin Gould:It was a little bit less of like necessarily my dad directly teaching me these things, but it was me picking up just from being around him and being around all these elite athletes the importance of positive thinking and mental toughness, because the really interesting thing and why sports psychologists are in business is primarily for individual sport athletes. He worked with a lot of tennis players, downhill skiers, race car drivers. If you're a car driver and you get in a serious wreck, that's in your head man and it really is hard to get that out of your head. There's a lot of mental work and mental toughness that goes into play. Kevin Gould:I think what ended up happening was sort of learning by osmosis and just being around all that, it really, to this day, I try to have a really positive mindset. Life in business as a roller coaster, right? So, really just being able to fight through that wall and having mental toughness is one of the key takeaways for me out of that. Chris Erwin:Yeah. I played some individual sports growing up like tennis and I remember how often I would get in my own head, and then reading a book called Inner Tennis, which was the psychology of the sport and just how powerful that thinking was. It's interesting that you highlight that. Kevin Gould:100%, and so my dad wrote the textbook for pretty much it's national use for sports psychology. I don't even remember going to the university and sitting in on the college classes and have to stop, I didn't understand. I was 8, 9, 10, right? Chris Erwin:Yeah. Kevin Gould:But the other half I really I think just picked up, again, just by listening and being present and being there. It was a super interesting experience. Chris Erwin:Was your mother in a similar field? Kevin Gould:They're both in the field of helping people. My dad was in the field of education. My mom was a grief counselor and she runs a non-profit still to this day. Quick kind of back story how that came to be. I had an older sister who actually died from a really rare metabolic deficiency before I was born, so I never had a chance to meet her, but for my mom at the time she really became like a pioneer of finding out more information about these metabolic deficiencies and helping educate other parents who maybe either lost loved ones to these or had children with these deficiencies and what was interesting is… Kevin Gould:Never really talked about this before. So, I've had this deficiency my whole life. I have to take medicine every day. I'm completely fine. I honestly don't even really think about it that much, but it is something that if left untreated is super serious. My mom really dove into helping other parents, particularly parents who've lost loved ones through this certain set of metabolic disorders. I think both of them were really, really loved to help other people. Again, my dad through the education lens and my mom's through sort of the grief support and consulting lens. Chris Erwin:Look, we're going to talk a lot about the many different businesses that you founded, but I just have to ask knowing about this condition. You said that you don't think about it often, but if you do take medicine for it every day, does that also cause you to think about your mortality and each moment counts and it's why you've maybe built so fast so early in your career? Have you ever thought about that? Kevin Gould:That's an interesting perspective and take on it I think. Look, I take medicine like three to four times a day and it's so ingrained in me, because I haven't known anything different. So, if you've been doing something your entire life, I don't know anything different than that. We can get into my drive and I think what drives me. I think maybe there's subconsciously some element to that. I don't know how much it plays in, but I mean, look, I think as we get older too, you obviously think about like what's important in life, what are you doing? What's your purpose? Kevin Gould:I think that could for sure have some play in it, but it definitely I don't think was the driving force for what drives me, but I think that's a really interesting take and perspective. I think there's some element of that that probably subconsciously comes into play. Chris Erwin:Yeah. All right. Well, let's talk about some other seeds of entrepreneurship in your early life. Did you know from early on that you wanted to build companies for a living or any other examples of skill sets that you're working on to help make you the entrepreneur you are today? Kevin Gould:I knew I wanted to be entrepreneurial. I just didn't know, one, how to go about it, where to start, what to do. We grew up sort of right around when the internet was starting to come up, but there wasn't YouTube, there wasn't a lot of information and education out there and people to look up to. Again, my parents were educators so they weren't necessarily in business. Kevin Gould:Then, I just didn't really have a lot of mentors when I was younger that I could look up to in North Carolina from a business perspective, but I feel like I just naturally gravitated towards… I was that kid that was the hustler that was always trying to start a side business. I have this memory that comes to mind. I was a swimmer growing up and the South and North Carolina, the community swim club over the summer are big things, and every summer there was this organization, it's called Swim for Cancer. Kevin Gould:The whole premise of Swim for Cancer was you would go raise money in exchange for swimming laps for cancer. The contribution of the young swimmer was go around the neighborhood, raise money, and then you'd swim a certain number of laps in honor of this organization. What it did at the time was I really was thinking back, I developed a lot of my sales skills through this, because I had to, middle of the summer, it's like a 100 degrees, humid in North Carolina, and I'm going around the neighborhood and I really had to figure out what my pitch was, right? Even though it was a non-profit, I was like 8, 9, 10 years old, I'm like, "How am I going to convince these people to give me money for this non-profit?" Kevin Gould:I remember going up to the doors like, "Hey, Mrs. Johnson this is Kevin. I'm swimming for Swim for Cancer, would you like to sponsor me?" Just through that, through knocking on 200, 300 doors over the summer, I started to sort of refine my pitch based on what was working and not working. Again, I didn't think that much into it at the time when I was at 8, or 9, or 10, but it was a really great learning experience that just translated to people skills later on in life, because I had to constantly adapt to the moment and every person was different. Kevin Gould:Mrs. Johnson was different than Mr. Jones who was the hard-ass guy, I'll be like, "How am I going to convince this guy to give me money for the non-profit? He barely wants to open the door." Then, at the end of the summer, you raise all this money, you swim all the laps, they have these awards, and then this is where I kind of learned in life like, "Look, everything in life isn't fair." Because I was like, "Man, I busted my ass all summer. I raised…" I don't know, like 2000 bucks or something from everyone in the neighborhood. I was like, "Yeah. I'm going to be the number one raiser in the city." Kevin Gould:I remember they called up the awards and they're like, "Oh, in second place is Kevin Gould with 2000 bucks." I was like, "Wait. Who could beat me?" Then, this one girl got $5000 flat and it was the check from the rich grandfather. I remember thinking, I was like, "Damn." Look, good for her, but I was like life isn't fair. It was a good… That whole experience was a great learning lesson, and then just throughout life I ended up working at that community pool. Kevin Gould:First started when I was 14 at the snack bar. That was a sales role, and then I became a lifeguard. You had to have a lot of people skills as a lifeguard, so I was always sort of training and not even knowing I was training for what I was doing today through all those things when I was a kid. Chris Erwin:I loved the story about raising money for cancer through the swim marathon. I also did a similar thing where I grew up in the Jersey Shore. In addition, I was also a boy scout and we used to sell Christmas, restoring Christmas. I remember I would take my bike out and go down these different driveways, knock on a random person's door in my town and sell them on a wreath and try and get money from them. Chris Erwin:It was like in the moment you feel awkward, you don't feel any confidence, but you start to develop those reps over time and you get better at it. Then, as you get older like sales is everything. It's not about just getting money from a client, it's about raising investor capital, getting your team excited, recruiting incredible team members to help build the vision that you have, getting buy-in from your friends and family, all the above, so what cool training you had early on. Kevin Gould:Yeah. It was amazing. To your point, every situation in person is different, right? You sort of have to in life and in business, you have to be able to adapt very quickly to the person and to the situation and everyone responds differently. For me, looking back that was amazing. I think that gave me an amazing head start and I didn't even know it at what I was doing at the time. Chris Erwin:Yeah. All right. Now, let's start to fast forward a bit. You go to UNC Wilmington, while you were there, was that a meaningful point in your life? Did you learn a lot or was it just a rapid stepping stone? Kevin Gould:When I was in high school I'd say I was an average to above average student. There was a lot of things that I was disinterested in and I'd always sort of asked my parents, "What am I learning this…" I was like, "Why am I learning this? I can't apply this to my real life?" Kevin Gould:There was always a little bit of that like, "What's the point of school because I don't think this is going to help me in the future?" I think that perspective was half right half wrong. I think I was a 16, 17-year-old kid just like stuck in school and there were a lot of elements that were helpful, but also, for me, there weren't a lot of things that I felt like were helpful for what I wanted to do. Kevin Gould:Anyways, I got into a couple of schools in North Carolina. I don't think I got into Chapel. I can't even remember. I don't think I got into Chapel Hill. I didn't have… Our high school super competitive, didn't have good enough grades. Got into UNC Wilmington, which is a pretty good school. I mean for me, what was important was on the beach. I was like, "All right." Greensboro. I'm going to what I thought was the coolest place in North Carolina, which is Wilmington and Wrightsville Beach, and got down there. Kevin Gould:I spent three and a half years there. I graduated a semester early, because I got AP credits. I studied business. I think it was marketing with I think a minor in entrepreneurship and leadership studies. But, again, college I think can lay the foundation, but teaching entrepreneurship is a really hard thing to do and learning entrepreneurship through a book or a class or case studies can maybe you can learn a few things, but really entrepreneurship you just have to jump in and go. Kevin Gould:I think looking back elements of it were helpful, elements of it probably weren't necessarily helpful, but at the time there wasn't an option like there is today for an 18-year-old where if I was 18 today, for me, personally, I probably wouldn't have went to college, but there wasn't any other option back then. It was still like you better go to college and you need a college degree to get a job, and so I had to go. It wasn't really like an option not to go. Chris Erwin:Yeah. I totally agree that that is changing. It used to be, as you said, if you can afford to go to college and you get in, you go to school and that's just what you do right after you get out of high school, but nowadays there's a lot more options. I think people are more open-minded and they don't want to incur the ridiculous student debt. So, questions are, do you take a gap year? Do you travel? Do you go work somewhere full-time, and then go enroll in school with more focus or do you not go to school and maybe do a trade school or learn how to program? Chris Erwin:I think that is very empowering to our new workforce. I agree that for certain people even if you have access to college, it's just… Yeah. It doesn't make sense. Kevin Gould:What's amazing now is there's the power of choice and the power of information that wasn't necessarily there back then for everyone. I think young people have incredible opportunities now and there's still things… If you want to be a doctor, you have to go to school. Specialized things, there's no way around it, but I think for someone who wants to be into business, luckily, there's a lot more flexibility now and you've got a lot more options. Chris Erwin:Speaking of business, after UNC Wilmington you head to LA. Your first job is at talent agency WME, but you were in LA for about a year and a half or so before you started your full-time role there. What were you up to? Kevin Gould:Yeah. Actually, after I graduated, so I graduated in the winter. It was a semester early, so I didn't get out to LA for a few months after that. I had to kind of get my bearings, get everything together, and then I drove out, and then there was a little, maybe a little under a year and a half period where I honestly, man, I was right out of college, I was 21, didn't know what I wanted to do. Kevin Gould:I was in college, so I worked at… I had a bunch of odd jobs. I worked at the Student Rec Center, then I became a certified personal trainer. I thought I wanted to start my own personal training business for a while. I was like, "Okay. This is something like I could be an entrepreneur, do something at the time, which I thought I loved." Then, I moved to LA and I kind of had odd jobs for a while. Kevin Gould:I was personal training. I ended up personal training a lot of people in the entertainment business. I got a lot of referrals, some really high level working actors. Chris Erwin:How does that happen? You show up in LA, you have an East Coast network, and all of a sudden you're training people in entertainment. How does that start? Kevin Gould:I knew a couple people out in LA at the time, and I was always good at sort of connecting. I think it Myspace at the time. I was trying to just connect with people. I knew a couple people out here, and then it kind of like was anything, it was just… I think I was pretty good with people. I was great at getting referrals and kind of built like… It was a very short period of time, but a small book of business for myself. Kevin Gould:I mean, dude, I got a real estate license. I was all over the place. I was like, "I'm going to be a real estate agent to the stars. I'm going to…" I just didn't know what direction I wanted to go in, and then I sort of started reading up on the talent agencies, and then someone at the time, on the client side connected me, and so got into WME probably 15 months after I got out here. It was such an experience, man. There is nothing like going into one of the big talent agencies, and really at the time it was… It still is. It's WME and CAA, right? Kevin Gould:Going in to the mail room where you do anything that they say. It was like a crazy experience, man. I remember you get in the mail room, there's a class of 10 other people that start the same week as you, and so you kind of form this bond with those 10 people that are in the class and everyone's kind of trying to size each other up. It's super competitive, but you have to do anything that the agents say. Kevin Gould:You're not even an assistant, you're not an assistant yet, you're getting called up by an agent, and they're like, "Hey, I need you to go get me a coffee, make sure it's like seven scoops of this. Don't do six. Make sure you stir it. If it's not hot, I'm going to make you go back and get it." At the time, that's the worst job for me, because I don't even drink coffee. I'm literally trying to google like how different coffees are made. I wasn't that sophisticated. I wasn't drinking coffee at 21. Kevin Gould:You literally run errands for all these agents and you're delivering scripts to actors. You have to go deliver scripts. It was like a crazy, crazy experience, man. Chris Erwin:Yeah. When you started, you are signing up to be a yes man. People call you do whatever they need, the talent, the agents, what have you. Just within the first couple weeks, were you energized by that? Being like, "All right. I'm a yes man, but what a cool environment to work in," or was there a little bit of an itch saying, "I really want to have my own path here and this feels limiting?" What was going through your head? Kevin Gould:Yeah. There was definitely an element of, wow. The energy inside an agency is insane. Everyone's moving and shaking and there's information flow inside an agency that you don't get anywhere else, right? You sort of like get plopped into the agency and it's this hub of just information of everything that's going on in the entertainment world and you're like, "Whoa." You're seeing huge actors walk down the halls and you definitely… When you're a 22, 23-year-old, you jump in there, you're like, "Wow. This is really cool." Kevin Gould:At the same time I was already thinking, "Okay. How am I going to quickly get out of the mail room, become this and like the path to become an agent?" I was like, "I got to get out of doing this." How am I going to kind of make the jump to do something else? Chris Erwin:I think that you have mentioned that you started early work in the Digital Department and doing some of the verse like digital and influencer deals out there. What were you up to? Kevin Gould:Yeah. Slightly different though. At the time, there really wasn't that much of a Digital Department at WME. There was one person. I started on a traditional talent agent's desk. I was working with that at the time, all of the young Hollywood type… The CW actors of 10, 12 years ago, right? Those would be digital influencers now. At the time it was like the it people of young Hollywood, which is the stars of the CW or Twilight or whatever, or Glee or whatever it may be. Kevin Gould:Then, I jumped around to a couple different desks over the years, because you become an assistant, you work for an agent for a while, and then you sort of move up to different desks. I worked across the Talent Department, and then I worked across the Non-Scripted TV Department, which at the time was starting to do a lot more digital work. Then, there was literally a one-person Digital Department. I think maybe it added one more person when I was there. Kevin Gould:I wasn't in the Digital Department. I sort of started creating my own universe of what I thought was digital at the time just on my own. I think I was the worst assistant, because I was trying to figure out how do I do the least amount of work I can as an assistant and get by and do a great job for the agent, and then sort of run my side business on the side where I just started naturally gravitating towards what was going on in Silicon Valley. Kevin Gould:Every free minute I had I was reading TechCrunch. I was reading all the Silicon Valley blogs at the time about what was happening there and I started to see- Chris Erwin:This was around 2010, 2012? Kevin Gould:It's like 2011, 2012. The first year I was really just in it just learning the talent agency side of the business and I also learned the things I didn't like to do. When you're an assistant in the Talent Department, you're responsible for every couple of weeks you have to cover a script. The agencies get tons of submissions. The agents aren't going to read it, the assistants have to read it. You get assigned a script to read. I started reading these and I had to write a summary and I'm like, "This sucks, man. I don't want to read scripts and summarize a script." I actually started paying people on the side 50 bucks to do it for me because- Chris Erwin:You're arbitraging time. Kevin Gould:I was arbitraging time. I was like, "I hate doing this. It's not…" That made me really realize, I don't really want to be a traditional talent agent working with actors, because I don't like reading scripts. It's fun to watch movies, wasn't fun to watch scripts. Then, after the first year that's really when I started to get really intrigued by the digital space, and which then sort of led me to after just reading about it for a while, seeing some of these really cool companies popping up. When I'm reading TechCrunch, they raised a little bit of money, and I'm like, "Man, I feel like if they had some entertainment connections, I could be helpful to them." Kevin Gould:I just started emailing these like cold emailing from the WME email address. "Hey, this is Kevin, I work at WME. I'd love to meet with you guys. I think I could be helpful on the entertainment side." Then, on Fridays, I'd kind of fly up once or twice a month to Silicon Valley and just take meetings with these people. Chris Erwin:You're meeting with investors and CEOs, founders of companies? Kevin Gould:This was what I found interesting. I found a gap where people being young, people thought I had something of value that they didn't. I couldn't do shit for anyone in the talent agency. Like, "What am I going to do for an agent that's been there 20 years?" I didn't have a skill set that they didn't have. I would have to try to be them, right? Chris Erwin:Yeah. Kevin Gould:But I saw this gap where all of these founders and even these VC funds, they had no clue how the entertainment business worked. I was like, "Wow. I can be that bridge that sort of sits between both worlds." I really spent a year just getting to know the space, flying up, meeting with people, building the Rolodex, plugging them into relationships and not even asking for anything just to sort of build some relationships. Chris Erwin:Yeah. Do you remember some of these companies? Who are some of your first Silicon Valley clients? Kevin Gould:Well, maybe I'll cut to kind of how it officially kind of came to be, because before it was… I remember at the time I was sort of signing clients on the side. She's a really good friend of mine, Jesse Draper. Do you know Jesse? She runs a VC fund down in LA. Chris Erwin:I think I met her when I first moved to LA in 2012. I don't remember she was like on the cap table for big frame, but she was like around that whole world. Kevin Gould:Yeah. We put her with Big Frame. I signed her on the side as a client and I was like, "Okay. We're going to build out a huge digital show for her." She was plugged into Silicon Valley. She was one of my first clients while I was at WME that I like took on and worked with from a, not a company necessarily, but a person and her and I are still really great, great friends to this day, but then there were just a lot- Chris Erwin:Kevin, to be clear. The business was not through WME, this was through you individually? Kevin Gould:No. Not yet. Jesse was through WME and I signed her, I was at WME, and the agent that I was working for at the time was really supportive, and all the other businesses I was helping at the time, because I was at WME, it was really informal. I wasn't taking money from them. I was just doing it to learn the space. What it allowed me to do was refine my understanding of what made a good company, what made a good founder. Kevin Gould:I mean in the beginning my instinct wasn't as good. I was going after companies that couldn't get to scale, maybe didn't have the right founder, maybe there was a ton of competition in the space, and then at the time, I was working for an agent and the way the agency is laid out is you've got all the agent offices, and then there's a huge row of just like… You've been in the agency. There's a huge row of assistant desks and assistants all sit next to each other. Kevin Gould:I was sitting next to this guy, smart guy, worked at Goldman, gave up everything to come to the agency, and then he was working for Charles King at the time, who now runs Macro. We would sit next to each other and just talk about the tech space and we sort of share the same passion. We ended up leaving together and we started, what was at the time, a company called Startup Agency, which the whole idea was Startup Agency was going to bridge Silicon Valley and the entertainment side of the business. Kevin Gould:One of my first clients that we signed was, again, someone who's become a really great friend to this day. It was a company called Gift at the time, which the whole premise of Gift was a digital gift card app that could buy, send, sell, receive digital gift cards and I met CJ, the founder… I went to TechCrunch Disrupt, the big conference. I saw him present on stage. I went up and said, "Hey, man, I've got this company called Startup Agency…" Chris Erwin:You just approached him cold? Kevin Gould:Just approached him cold. He kind of looked at me like, "Who's this guy?" Kind of blew me off. I said, "Give me your card." I gave him my card. He gave me his card, and then the next week I called him, he was still apprehensive. I got on the phone. I was like, "Look, I can really help you out. If you could get to anyone in the entertainment business, who would it be?" Kevin Gould:He said, at the time, Giuliana Rancic was a new mom on E. Perfect for what they were trying to do as an ambassador for their business. I said, "Okay. Give me a couple days." I came back a couple days later. I said, "Hey, I got a call set up with Giuliana's manager and her team and Giuliana. Let's put a partnership together." Two weeks later, she came on as like a big face and an ambassador to the brand, and then we did a ton of other things for Gift along the way. Kevin Gould:That was one of the first clients, and then so Tim and I is still a good friend. He ultimately wanted to go more in depth with us, a single company, and that's when sort of Startup Agency kind of pivoted. I rebranded and kind of became an element of what Kombo Ventures is today. Chris Erwin:You go full into Startup Agency I think in 2012, right? Kevin Gould:Yeah. I think 2012. Yeah. It's the end of 2012. Right around there. Chris Erwin:Okay. Kevin Gould:It's funny because I think some people have very linear paths. They were like here for three years and here for two and here for a year. Mine was very like it all sort of blended together. I was at WME and I was trying to sign these people on the side and have my own business, and then I sort of moved into Startup Agency, and then that sort of morphed into Kombo. Kevin Gould:There was this constant just evolution of what I was doing as opposed to a hard rigid like, "Here for this year, two years, three years." It just sort of morphed and evolved over time. Chris Erwin:Yeah. Kind of like the image that's coming to mind is a plant or a tree that's growing, and then there are these branch offshoots that might be like, "Oh, I'm incubating this idea. See where that goes. Maybe it grows maybe it doesn't." Then, there's this other offshoot, and then it becomes like a through line where the core of your career and all these different things build upon that and reinforce it, but then can take you serendipitously in different directions. I feel like that's what you did. Kevin Gould:Life is all about serendipity and that's a good analogy you made about the plants and different paths. Then, it still ends up all working up to the same place, but it kind of diverges here and there, but it all ultimately, even if you don't think it makes sense and at the moment it ends up making sense. That's life. Chris Erwin:Yeah. 100%. Startup Agency, and then I think that you take on a 10-pole client in Videogram and Cinemacraft for a couple years, but Kombo, what is now known as Kombo Ventures, which is a hybrid talent management, IP, incubation studio, digital agency, consumer brand launcher, that also really kind of takes off at the same time. Kevin Gould:So at the time there's this company called Cinemacraft. They had a product called Videogram, really interesting sort of early video product that they had an algorithm that allowed basically videos to be spliced and diced algorithmically to pull out the most key points of the video. It was mostly like a B2B sales play where you sell into studios and networks and content providers. It was part of Turner at the time had this thing called Turner Media Camp where Turner was funding startups, and so that as a client at the time, I got super involved. Kevin Gould:I was really part of like the founding member of the team there. I wasn't the founder by any means, but was on the founding team and that was a great experience to get a little bit more operational in one company where I still had other clients at the time, and sort of I ultimately realized I wanted to at that time be involved across multiple clients, and really build out Kombo and the whole model of Kombo sort of shifted into a real agency where I was looking for… Kevin Gould:The thesis was go find late seeds, series A, sometimes series B companies that didn't have someone internally that had my relationships Rolodex, know-how of the entertainment business. Go to them and have a sort of hybrid model where I would take a retainer, because I needed to get paid, take sweat equity. I didn't have a formal finance background, so what that allowed me to do was learn all about cap tables, all about financing, learning by just osmosis of just being around it. Kevin Gould:Then, ultimately, what I realized, it's like, "Wait a second. These companies that I'm taking equity in…" Because I'm super particular and I wouldn't just work with any company, they all have zero trouble raising money from top tier funds. I was seeing I had a firsthand view of how well the company was doing, because I was very integrated with the companies. I started negotiating to let me invest in the last round of funding, because at the time, I was cutting small angel checks of what was 10k or 15k or 20k to them, at the time I was taking that consulting money, and then dumping it back in. Kevin Gould:It became this really interesting model where I had a couple wins that really worked. I had some that obviously went to zero, but the ones that worked, worked well and most importantly what it allowed me to do was I basically got to make money and get a really good generalist view of how lots of different companies are run, how lots of different founders work, because they all work different. It was just amazing at that time of my life to be able to do that. Chris Erwin:Well, and I have to say, so a few points. One, that rubric you talked about, flying up to Silicon Valley, starting to get a sense of what companies were meaningful that you felt are worth betting on versus not. You started to create that filter that you likely applied now at Kombo. So increasing your likelihood of success, better return on your time. Second what I'm hearing is that early stage companies, seed series A, getting them to pay you a monthly retainer as an advisor is not easy. Chris Erwin:I run an advisory business myself. I specifically target later stage companies that have cash wherewithal. So impressive that you're able to get them to spend money on you, but then also they want results often, and so you must have been delivering to have maintained those relationships. Kevin Gould:So very, very good point. It's really hard to get startups to pay you money when they're obviously very cash conscious, particularly if they're that series A stage where paying a $5000 retainer a month or whatever it is that I was charging back then was hard to come by. What I did was I always delivered before I asked for anything. I think that's a good thing to do in just life, whether you're someone that's trying to come in a company, whatever it may be. Kevin Gould:Always deliver a little bit, show that you can drive results, and then it makes it much easier to ask for something after you've already done that. At the time, I was like young coming out of WME, it's not like Kombo was kind of I guess what it is today where it's a little bit more established and I had a little bit more of a reputation. I didn't really have much of a reputation. The only way to do that was to deliver before I asked for anything, and some people would say, "Oh, well, that's a waste your time. Well, what happens if they don't compensate you or whatever?" Kevin Gould:I look at it a completely opposite way. It always… At least, for me, it always ended up working out. Even if I didn't end up working with them, I still know those people to this day. I can call on a favor. I've gained a relationship, whatever it may be. Maybe it took me 5 to 10 hours of work to put in to try to gain the client, but that's the only way I could get them was to deliver, and then ask later. Chris Erwin:Yeah. You were looking at it from a long-term point of view, lifetime value the customer. So, by doing the work up front, even if you don't get paid for that say like 5 to 10 hours, that could be a customer for the next 10 to 20 years of your life. They can be paying you cash retainer fees. They give you access to their cap table. They refer you to other advisory clients, because they like you. You're able to make other angel investments. Chris Erwin:It's incredibly valuable to put the work in, which also filters if a company appreciates that, that's someone that you want to work with. You feel them out over time. It's a two-way interview. Kevin Gould:100%, and life is a series of compounding relationships. You put in on that work, you help people out, you do good by people, and all of that over time starts to compound to I think kind of what it is today where I feel like I know a pretty good amount of people. I've put in a lot of favors for people, if I ever need to call in a favor, I probably can. It's just this like network effect that continues to expand over time. Kevin Gould:I try to encourage all these young people that are trying to get in it for the quick money. It's just take a step back and just think a little bit about the long-term and there's other things other than like the quick hit that are going to be ultimately a lot more meaningful and beneficial to you long-term. Chris Erwin:Something else I just have to quickly touch on here. I think you mentioned this when we last spoke, but credit card arbitrage with your angel investments. So, you are making these small cash retainers as far from life-changing money, building a small business, so probably not a lot of extra cash going around, but you're putting money back into your clients, so you're like not diversified. If a client goes away, you lose your angel investment and you lose that retainer, but you're even tripling down in a way because you were going into credit card debt so you can put more cash into these companies, is that right? Kevin Gould:I'll even go one step beyond that. I remembered another thing I did, which was crazy. One was I thought, "Okay. I've got all these access to these incredible deals." For whatever reason in my head, I've never had that risk alarm bell. For me, anything I do I don't think is a risk, because I feel like I've assessed the risk and I feel like if I'm doing it, it's not a risk. I ultimately know there is a risk, but I don't know, my brain has always operated a little bit differently in terms of risk profile. Kevin Gould:I said, "Man, I've got $40,000 of a line of credit on one of my cards and I'm looking at the interest rate, I'm like, "Okay. What happens if I basically go max out this card and basically play interest rate arbitrage where if I can get into a couple of companies there's the…" The downside of it might go under, but there's the upside of, "Look, maybe it's a 15% interest rate a year, but if this thing can 3x, 4x, 5x, 10x, whatever it may be, that's a pretty good bet." Kevin Gould:I did two things. One was I played credit card arbitrage. The second was I think I had… I forgot what I had in my Roth IRA at the time and I cleared the Roth IRA account, and cleared it out, and then took that money and invested it in startups. Chris Erwin:Wow. Kevin Gould:For anyone listening, I would never recommend doing that. It's not a strategy I would recommend, but I don't know. It made sense to me. It's hard to explain, because it rationally doesn't make a lot of sense and I'm a pretty grounded rational person a lot of ways, but I'm also willing to take a lot of risk. I don't know, that made sense to me. Chris Erwin:Yeah. I think liquidating an IRA, I think there's like a 10% penalty on top of that too. Kevin Gould:Yeah. I had to pay the penalty to liquidate it too. I had to pull out the cash, you're not earning interest on the money you're gaining, you're also paying the pre-liquidation penalty, but I got enough capital between the credit card arbitrage, the IRA, and the incoming revenue that I had coming in on the agency side of the business, because I was just basically paying my rent. I'm pretty simple. I wear like basic hoodies, t-shirt. I didn't buy a lot of fancy stuff and that's how I did it. Chris Erwin:In these early days, was there ever a point though where there was like a cash crunch? Every founder, and like this is me like every week, "Oh, are we going to make payroll this month? Oh, here's all the things that could go wrong and put us out of business." But you need to think optimistically. Were you ever down on your business? Kevin Gould:Luckily, I kept it really lean at the time. It was more about like, "Am I going to eat or not going to eat?" I always had enough to… Again, I feel like one of my natural skill sets was sales, so there was always enough of a client base to cover. We'll talk about I guess in a little bit the brand side of things, because when you're running a brand, a larger brand there's a lot of moving pieces on cash flow. But because I kept it lean, I was generally okay, but I had to really not live beyond my means, and also always be on the hunt for new clients and new business development. Kevin Gould:I definitely wasn't swimming in cash, because, again, I was taking lower retainers in exchange for these equity stakes, and then when there were some cash crunches, serendipitously, a company exits and I get a payout or I close a bit deal. I don't know, man. It always ended up somehow writing itself and, yeah, it was crazy. Chris Erwin:Yeah. I think that's the success formula. It's hard work having some diversified bets, and then a bit of luck where things just work out, and resilience. In those tough times not hanging up the towel. Be like, "No. We can get through this." Because all startups they just need a little bit of time. With time, the worst that can happen is you go to zero. The best is like the sky is limitless. Kevin Gould:That's exactly the way I think about it. The worst that can happen is it goes to zero, and ultimately, you learn from it and you start over. I know that sounds very simplified, and so a lot of people I think going to zero is that's obviously terrible, but for me, I'm like, "All right. I'll just from scratch and rebuild." That's kind of how I always thought about is the worst that happens is I learned a lesson and I got to rebuild. Chris Erwin:I like how Jocko Willink describes it who's former special forces and he's now an incredible executive and leadership coach and has his own podcast and much more. He's done the scenario. He goes through his worst case scenario planning, which is like, "Okay. If I'm really making pennies, then I will have a blanket on a concrete floor and I will eat beans out of a can." He's like, "That's not that bad." He's like, "I've had worse in combat scenarios." Chris Erwin:It's like when it's uncertain of how bad it can get, you freak yourself out, but when you actually get there logically, you're like, "Oh, I can do that for a few months. I can do that for a year. Sure." Kevin Gould:100%, and obviously, you don't want to do it, but you'll ultimately be okay. Then, it's just a matter of being resilient and getting yourself out of it and coming up with the next thing. Ultimately, that's like all business. If businesses can't get creative and continually be ahead of what's next, they're ultimately going to find themselves in that position anyway, so you have to constantly be coming up with new things to reinvent yourself, get creative. I don't know. That's how I think about it. Chris Erwin:Yeah. Cool. All right, Kevin, let's talk about how Kombo Ventures has evolved over the past couple of years. You've had some very exciting developments in your company where in addition to all of your agency management, IP studio work, you've now launched three very fast growing direct to consumer brands. Let's start out, what was the catalyst to evolve Kombo Ventures, and then specifically get into beauty products? Kevin Gould:Yeah. A couple catalysts, and maybe I'll cut back slightly, and then loop back into how this all kind of came to be. After running the agency side of the business for a few years, I was seeing the rise of influencers and big digital influencers, content creators, YouTubers, and thought there was a gap in the market where a lot of these talent needed to think about their brand as a real scalable business. Kevin Gould:I ended up basically starting another part of the agency where more of a management company where we were just managing and signing digital YouTube creators, big talent, and so for a while it was a split of still working with companies and doing all of the advisory agency services we were talking about, which is one part of the business. Then, the other part was managing these talent. Kevin Gould:On the beauty side, one company probably five, six years ago I got really deep with as an investor. Sort of fell on hard times now with the events, business and COVID and everything was BeautyCon, and through BeautyCon, I really saw, one, the influence that influencers have on the beauty business. Two, the scale of beauty businesses and how much they can scale. I think they were always very forward thinking from an e-commerce perspective. Kevin Gould:Then, the other we're seeing through the influencers that we were managing was like just even at a very basic level when they had their own merch business, the amount of scale that one influencer could get from moving merch. Which then led me to, "Look, I really want to start building my own brands." I'd say in summer of 2018, I had known Sharon Pak and Jordynn Wynn for a while. They were basically like the first two employees over at ColourPop Cosmetics, big cosmetics company. Kevin Gould:I slid in their DMs on Instagram. I DM both of them together and I said, "Hey, what are you guys up to? I'd love to catch up." I schlep over to Calabasas because they were working out of Oxnard, we met in the middle. I sat down. I was like, "Look, if you guys could start a brand and what space would it be?" We sort of just started talking and they were like, "Look, we think the hair space is a really interesting space. We don't think it's been innovated." You're like, "Color cosmetics has. There's a lot of legacy players, but they're not great at social content creative like sort of influencers." Kevin Gould:I kind of went back that night and did a bunch of research. I came back a day later and I said, "Hey, here's all the research on the space. Let's do this." They're like, "Whoa. Are you serious?" I was like, "Yeah. Let's do it." Chris Erwin:You were like jazzed up immediately? Kevin Gould:I was jazzed up immediately. I was looking for co-founders that… It's important to have co-founders that can do things you can't and vice versa, right? Chris Erwin:Yeah. Kevin Gould:I think their core expertise was social, creative, community building online, and so we partnered up and the brand launched. It was a soft launch, but it launched in October of 2018. That was the first brand. Chris Erwin:This is called Insert Name Here. Kevin Gould:Insert Name Here, INH Hair for short. When we started, it was primarily actual hair. Like Ariana Grande style ponytails, like that ponytail she always wears, hair extensions, wigs, lots of hair products. It has since transitioned into overall hair business where we sell blow dryers, straighteners, hot tools. We have hair color now. It's expanded a lot. Then, cut to last year there were two other brands that I launched and co-founded. Kevin Gould:One was also in the beauty space called Glamnetic. It is in the women's eyelash space. I did that with my co-founder Anne McFerrin, who's incredible, and sort of similar in that she is incredible at social, creative content, community building. I think a real visionary from a product development perspective. We launched that. Then, the third brand was called Wakeheart, which I did… This was done a little bit differently. Kevin Gould:It was done with the Dolan twins who were two big YouTubers and digital influencers. It's a fragrance and scent brand, really aimed at like Gen Z and young Millennials. The through line is that with all these brands we're like, "Okay. Look, we need to get these things profitable within six months or less." That was like one goal we set. We're going to run these things lean. I wanted in the beginning a pretty large degree of autonomy. I didn't want to raise capital. So, self-funded the businesses- Chris Erwin:Jointly funded with your co-founders or were you just contributing capital? Kevin Gould:Different on each one. One of them I funded all of it. Two of them, I think we split some of it. Then, I was bringing… Mostly I was bringing the capital, and then I was bringing all the op side, everything on the operational side of the business. Then, I'd say I'm pretty strong on the marketing side as well, and so bringing a lot of that to the table and kind of cut to today. There's these three brands running, we still haven't taken on any capital for any of the brands. Man, there's like 90 something people across everything now. Kevin Gould:The brands grew really, really quickly. It obviously has been a very interesting year with COVID and how sort of everything accelerated from an e-commerce perspective. But it's been a lot of fun. Chris Erwin:Yeah. Going back to meeting the co-founders, how did you sell them on you? Because you show up… I think you kind of knew the ColourPop cosmetics team, but getting them to launch a business, change what they're doing, take on a bunch of risk, sign up for a lot of work. How did you get them excited about these ideas you had? Kevin Gould:You know what's funny is I feel like you'd have to ask Sharon and Jordynn, but they've kind of talked about it before. I think they like did… I don't know if they thought I was that serious at first, right? I was that serious. I literally sat down, and I said, "Hey, if you could launch anything, what should we launched?" Then, literally a week later we're meeting every weekend while they're still working like getting this thing strategized and planned and going. Kevin Gould:Yeah. I don't know. I think it was just an open honest conversation. I was like, "Look, we think there's a big opportunity here and let's take a shot at this and do it." I think to their credit too, I think they wanted to start… It was all serendipitous, right? They wanted to start their own business at the time and I think we all complimented each other in terms of the skill sets that we brought to the table, and so it just made sense. Chris Erwin:Then, you also said that you brought ops expertise to the table, but you don't have a background in launching CPG, e-commerce businesses, in fulfillment, developing relationships with manufacturers, designing packaging, so did you hire a team to help you figure that out or did you do it yourself? Kevin Gould:I've had my right hand guy, Lucas, who's been with me for a while. He's awesome. He also did not have a e-commerce op background. He had a banking background where he was at the Soros fund, and then kind of like do anything figure it out sort of mentality. I kind of just looked at the space and I was like, "We can figure this out." It's like anything, right? You put enough time into it and just dig in and be curious and ask a lot of questions. It's not rocket science. Kevin Gould:We're not building a biopharma company. It's not something completely out of my wheelhouse. I think by virtue of seeing a lot of companies being built over the years and sort of being close to the space, I knew enough as a generalist to be able to go in and figure it out, but you're right. Never cut a fulfillment center, put a fulfillment center deal together, never had to run the back end on the accounting side for an e-commerce business before, but you kind of just figure it out as you go. Chris Erwin:Just learn by doing. Kevin Gould:Learn by doing and the key is one thing with putting up your own money is you are very conscious of making sure you minimize mistakes, right? Chris Erwin:Yeah. Kevin Gould:For me, I'm like super high touch and heavily involved in each of the brands and still am to this day and just the key is, it's like, "How do you scale as quickly as possible to minimize the major mistakes you make?" It's okay to make mistakes and we want people to make mistakes because otherwise they're not moving quick enough and learning and growing things, but from a cash flow perspective going back to the cash flow piece, you need to make sure you don't make too many mission critical mistakes or you'll be out of business, particularly if you're self-funding your company. Chris Erwin:Speaking of the cash needed, how much capital did it take to actually just first launch these brands and get the first product out the door? Are we talking seven figures per brand, was it five to six figures of cash investment? Kevin Gould:I'd say minimum six figures on each brand, and then as they grow the biggest problem was trying to self-finance an e-commerce brand, if you're growing quickly is the inventory constraints. In the hair space, cost of inventory is really high. I had to put out for sure six figures initially to get the thing going. But, again, it seems crazy to do that, but to me at the time I felt like I calculated the risk. I felt like we're going to make this work and was willing to do it. It didn't seem like a… I don't know. I looked at it from all angles and I was like, "I feel like this makes sense and the worst that happens is I'm going to lose my money and I'm going to have to make it up again." Kevin Gould:But the real big challenge wasn't necessarily that I was fortunate to have had some successes with some of the previous exits where I made some money on some of the agency side of the business where I had that capital to deploy, but the most challenging piece comes, again, when you really scale it and you have to continue to deploy capital just to finance the inventory as you go, and you're too early to go to a bank. Kevin Gould:A bank's not going to finance a business that's been up and running for a year. You're almost even too early to go to a lot of the inventory financing solutions that are out in the market today. You kind of really need close to a year for them just to even get them interested, and so at points in time, I had to deploy a lot more than I wanted to. Chris Erwin:Personal capital. Kevin Gould:Personal capital. I had deployed overall a million dollars. I'm not going to break down exactly which one it went to, but across everything, a million dollars of capital, which was, one, way more than I expected. That's a lot of money. I'm not like loaded. That's a lot of money. Kevin Gould:I don't know. I believe in the brands. I believe in what we're doing. I believe in my co-founders. It wasn't like the businesses were losing money. That incremental dollar figure that has went up over time is getting plowed into inventory. It's not like we're a business like some of these other e-commerce businesses that got in trouble where they were just blowing money every month and they were losing money on the P&L. This was for financing growth. Chris Erwin:I like what you said about starting lean with the six-month timeline to prove it out and get profitable. I think what a lot of companies, particularly digital media companies did when I got into the whole game back in 2012 was here's a vision for a business model that we can enter, and then here's how we can make money, but a lot of it didn't come into fruition. Then, it required them to continually raise money from investors, and then a lot of money was lost. That wasn't the approach for you. Kevin Gould:Well, and I think there were, obviously, hindsight for all those guys or women. It's like 20/20 in terms of what went wrong. I think there was like guilty parties on both sides. I think you had entrepreneurs that were coming up with self-justified LTVs of customers, and then they're like, "Yeah. The LTV is a thousand dollars of our customer, therefore, we can spend 500 to acquire them." When there actually wasn't enough data to really understand, what was the LTV? Kevin Gould:Then, you've got investors pumping money into the space encouraging them and basically adding on to that narrative of, "Oh, yeah, yeah, grow, grow, grow, grow, grow." Then, when the growth wasn't there and the LTV didn't back out, the investors were like, "We're cutting our losses. We're not in." You had a bunch of these e-commerce businesses that just fundamentally should have been run a much different way. Kevin Gould:I think the space is now getting reset where there's a lot more e-commerce brands or Omni-channel brands that are being run a little bit more efficiently. I think just the investor base has gotten, has been pushing companies to do that a lot more, but I was like, "We should be able to run this lean." you know, then you got to put up the money for the inventory, you got to test, you got to be in the weeds. Kevin Gould:In the beginning, I always tell early founders of social driven e-com brands, we treated Instagram DM as a sales funnel, right? Anyone that followed us, we'd shoot them a personal DM like, "Hey, thanks for following us. Let us know if you have any questions. We're here for you." That was like warm… If you're in a B2B sales business, that was our version of prospecting new customers. We had warm leads of people that followed us and we were actually going in and DMing them, having conversations with our first few thousand people that followed us on social and actually drove real revenue from that. Kevin Gould:It was just a down and dirty kind of guerrilla marketing style way of getting new customers on not a lot of capital. Obviously, as you scale that doesn't work as you scale as much, right? But in the beginning when you're doing 10,000, 20,000 a month in sales, it was a really great outside the box marketing tool for us. Chris Erwin:Yeah. As they always say in the beginning do things that don't scale. You learn from those tests and experiments, and I also like hearing about the story that you didn't have a specific playbook to follow in the beginning. You kind of learned and made your own. It's crazy I think with the number of e-commerce companies that are out there and you have Shopify and WooCommerce that you would think, "Oh, here's the playbook, here's how you find the manufacturer, here's the margin that you need." Chris Erwin:There are best practices, but you still got to figure it out for yourself and each talent situation, each product situation, each team situation is uniquely different. You just got to start talking to people, trying things out, and taking your ego out of it. One thing I've learned from you because you've given me some advice for some of our clients is you can have clients with billion dollar top line licensing businesses, but you know what? Start out with a small experiment which is maybe just a thousand units and see what works, and then you could build upon that and that's the right way to do it. Kevin Gould:100%. It doesn't all have to come at once. Start small and prove it out, make sure it works, and build from there. I think your point too on ego and I think everyone as an entrepreneur always have to self…. They always have to self-check their ego. You, me, everyone to a degree has an ego and I think to be a founder or a CEO or someone that's leading a company, and I'm certainly guilty of this as well sometimes. Kevin Gould:It's like you have to check your ego, make sure you're an amazing listener, right? You have to listen to everything. You have to listen to your team members, your co-founders, your customers, right? Even though you might have a perspective that you think is right and it might ultimately be right, you still need to take in all the feedback and listen and make sure everyone has a voice. That's always something that you continually have to refine and work on as a founder. Chris Erwin:So fast forward, you launched these brands, three brands within the past couple of years and you had a big moment this year. I think on the recent Facebook earnings call, Sheryl Sandburg, I think the number two at Facebook. She calls out Glamnetic as a great example of a fast-growing small, medium-sized business that's using their advertising platform. This is like you hear Glamnetic and the founder's name on the earnings call. It's amazing. I think you guys posted a video of that. What did it feel like? Did you know in advance that was going to happen? Kevin Gould:We did. I wasn't sure it was a go until the night before. I heard it was going to happen, but I still thought, went listen in on their earnings call… On those earnings calls, things get cut out last minute. I was like, "Who knows if this is going to happen or not." It was a really cool moment, man. I mean I think like, "Look, you got to celebrate the wins." I think that was like… I had a drink that night with my co-founder, and the guys as well. That was really cool. Kevin Gould:The business was super young, it was really a little over a year old. We've been fortunate to scale very quickly and that was just a really cool moment. One of the biggest companies in the world and you're on their earnings call, but you know what? You take the night, you celebrate a little bit. You're like, "Wow. That was cool." Then, you get to work the next day and you just keep building. Kevin Gould:It was an amazing experience. It's something that I think always remember when you're like as an early moment of the end, but I don't know. It's also weird because the brands have scaled really quickly, but at the same time I still feel like they're in their infancy. I feel like we're just getting started and- Chris Erwin:Yeah. Let's put some numbers behind that. I think that you mentioned when these brands like I think last year, run rate across your three brand portfolio, call it around $1 to $2 million of top line revenue. Kevin Gould:A little bit more like four to five last year. This year collectively 75. Chris Erwin:75? Kevin Gould:Yeah. Chris Erwin:That's like 20x. Kevin Gould:Yeah. It's been insane, man. It's been… What's crazy is like, again, it's definitely growing a lot, but I still feel like we're that small startup that's just like hustling to make it happen and the key is we have, again, I've got amazing co-founders in each brand and amazing teams. We have a lot of really young people that love what they do. I think they're learning a lot in these brands. It's been an amazing experience for them. They also put in a lot of hard work though and everyone's really, really passionate about what they do. Kevin Gould:We've got awesome teams on each of the brands. I think we figured out the playbook and the playbook's always changing. It's constantly updating, but to run a really strong e-commerce brand today, you have to do a lot of things right. You have to obviously be with an amazing high quality product, that's number one. You don't get in the door and scale otherwise. Then, you have to be killer at… It's like the flywheel, social content, creative, influencer marketing, paid media, retention, email, SMS, a loyalty program. Kevin Gould:That whole flywheel has to be running in lockstep and in sync in order for the brands to scale, otherwise, what happens is if you only have two or three of those, the barrier to entry to start an e-com brand lower than ever, right? Chris Erwin:Yeah. Kevin Gould:Super easy to get a Shopify site up. Let's say you own a brand, then, it's fairly easy… I wouldn't say it's fairly easy, but it's easier to get a brand to seven figures in sales, right? It's become easier to do that, but still I don't want to discount that that's really still hard to do. Then, take a brand to eight figur