Podcasts about Summer Tour

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The Marinade's fourth annual Grounded Summer Tour rolls on! I am on a road trip from Orlando, FL, to Bonnaroo in Manchester, TN, and beyond. The goal of these trips is to unwind, meet cool people, take in some great art, and reflect on life. On this episode I talk about setting intention for the trip and detaching from the outcome. Stay tuned to The Marinade on the all of the socials so you don't miss any of the action.  Support The Marinade on Patreon: https://patreon.com/marinadepodcast  

Hi everyone here's a nice short visit to catch you all up on the summer tour and what else is coming our way.  Everybody is finding their way and getting comfortable with the rhythm of the road enjoy the episode we'll start our first summer guest next week.

(S06F40)Montag der 08.Juni.2026 und dies ist Folge 1282 des Ultimate Wrestling Talk mit den Ergebnissen von „WWE European Summer Tour 2026 - Florenz“ vom 07.Juni.2026 aus dem Mandela Forum in Florenz, Italien.

(S06F38)Sonntag der 07.Juni.2026 und dies ist Folge 1280 des Ultimate Wrestling Talk mit den Ergebnissen von „WWE European Summer Tour 2026 - Rom“ vom 06.Juni.2026 aus dem Palazzo dello Sport in Rom, Italien.

(S06F36)Freitag der 05.Juni.2026 und dies ist Folge 1278 des Ultimate Wrestling Talk mit den Ergebnissen von „WWE European Summer Tour 2026 - Madrid“ vom 04.Juni.2026 aus dem Palacio Vistalegre in Madrid, Spanien.

The Summer Tour is in full swing, and the band has come out of the gates STRONG. From unique setlists, to deep cut bust-outs, to top-tier guests, the start to this tour has been one to remember. We break down the band's shows from Alpharetta through West Pam Beach, and wrap up the episode with our nerdy segment "Summer Stats So Far...". Cheers! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we sit down with Tesla guitarist Dave Rude to talk about the new album, "Homage" and the summer tour with Motley Crue and Extreme. The record is out on July 17th, coincidentally, the same date the tour kicks off.For more information, check out the band's website and if you want to see what faces Dave makes on his thumbnail photos, check out his YouTube page.

(S06F33)Mittwoch der 03.Juni.2026 und dies ist Folge 1275 des Ultimate Wrestling Talk mit den Ergebnissen von „WWE European Summer Tour 2026“ vom 02.Juni.2026 aus dem Zénith Strasbourg Europe in Straßburg, Frankreich.

(S06F35)Donnerstag der 04.Juni.2026 und dies ist Folge 1277 des Ultimate Wrestling Talk mit den Ergebnissen von „WWE European Summer Tour 2026 - Lissabon“ vom 03.Juni.2026 aus der MEO Arena in Lissabon, Portugal.

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Lou and Adelle check in about the anticipated Dinosaur Jr summer tour with Band of Horses. The show begins an ends with a 'song' Lou recorded in 1982: Automatic Banana Peelers. for music, good gifts, craft kits and hand knits:https://barlowfamilygeneralstore.com/Substack is a nice way to support our podcasting efforts!https://barlowfamilygeneral.substack.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

(S06F28)Donnerstag der 29.Mai.2026 und dies ist Folge 1270 des Ultimate Wrestling Talk mit den Ergebnissen von „WWE European Summer Tour 2026“ vom 28.Mai.2026 aus der M&S Bank Arena in Liverpool, England, Vereinigtes Königreich.

In This episode of WrestlingTracks Entertainment, Monday Night Raw Recap: We dive deep into tonight's fallout from Raw. From the explosive opening segment to the chaotic main event, we analyze the shifting alliances, the major wins, and how the landscape of the red brand has been completely reshaped.The Road to WWE Clash in Italy: History is being made on May 31st as WWE heads to the Inalpi Arena in Turin, Italy for its first-ever Italian Premium Live Event! We preview the massive Undisputed WWE Championship clash between Cody Rhodes and Gunther, break down the rumored match card, and other ramblings. News & Rumors Around the Ring: What's next for the Summer Tour across Europe? We cover the latest backstage news, injury updates, and creative directions heading into the summer.Check outBack Up Deliveries And More, LLCThey put the 'D' in Delivery!" For reliable, efficient transportation and logistics that can save you a bunch of cash, give them a call.Contact: 888-71-Bakup (888-712-2587) or (817) 204-7259Visit: wegotbackup.com They are currently looking for CDL drivers—hit them up and get paid!Support & Follow the Show:

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The 2026 Summer Tour has begun, and the first 3 shows proved that things truly are bigger in Texas. The band kicked off the tour in style with 3 of the more unique and consistent setlists we have seen in a very long time. From the surprising return of songs like "Kit Kat Jam", "Broken Things", and "Snow Outside"; to the return of fan-favorite fiddle player Jake Renick Simpson, the Texas Trifecta was absolutely terrific, and in this episode we break it all down! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Martin Bester spoke to LIVE frontman Ed Kowalczyk about the band's upcoming South African tour.

It's the most wonderful time of the year...The 2026 Summer Tour is FINALLY here and we are back to preview it from The Woodlands to The Gorge! We drop a few venue fun facts and have some fun predicting what songs the band may bust out and which show we think will be the best of the tour. Be sure to tune in to SiriusXM's DMB Radio for the tour opening Friday Night Concert Series show from The Woodlands, Texas this Friday, May 8th! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Send us Fan MailHi everybody and welcome to Attendance Bias. I am your host, Brian Weinstein. Before we get started with today's episode, I just want to remind everyone that if you enjoy the podcast, you can show your support by leaving a rating and review of it wherever you get your podcasts. You can also visit www.buymeacoffee.com/attendancebias and donate anything you can to keep the podcast going. Now, onto today's episode.Today is a preview of a preview. Leading up to Phish's summer tour last year, 2025, I thought it would be fun to do a deep dive into two new venues Phish was playing: Forest Hills Stadium in New York City, and Folsom Field in Boulder. I keep an eye on the online Phish community on Twitter, Bluesky, Facebook, Reddit, etc. and it seemed like fans had the most questions about those venues. I was lucky to find people who were willing to come on the show and pretty much answer a Q&A about each venue. It was kind of the same format as a regular Attendance Bias episode, except the episode was about a venue and not a particular show. Then, a friend recommended that I shouldn't stop at Forest Hills and Folsom; I should record an episode for every venue on the 2025 tour. I loved doing it, and so that's what happened. I was very proud of it, and by the end, I felt like I could hop on tour at any moment and know everything I needed to know about any given venue.Once Phish announced their 2026 summer tour this past February, I felt that impulse to record another “Venue Preview” miniseries–you know when you feel that feeling that says: “This is going to be difficult, it's going to take a lot of work, but I really, really, really want to do it?” Once I saw their tour, that's the feeling I felt. I immediately went to work, contacting friends, working through a few false starts, and doing a ton of research of places I've never visited–sure, I could tell you the basics of seeing a show at Merriweather Post Pavilion, but the Enmarket Arena in Savannah, Georgia may as well be in Taiwan. Plus, I had to think of ways to preview the most familiar Phish venues: how exactly does one give a heads up about seeing Phish at Madison Square Garden or Deer Creek? I had my work cut out for me.Regardless, the next 10 weeks of Attendance Bias episodes will sound like that: The 2026 Summer Tour Venue Preview Series. Now that the 3 weekends at the Sphere are done, here are Phish's next stops, along with the guests who will help tell us about each venue and city:*July 7 and 8 at the Kohl Center in Madison, Wisconsin with Mike Lancaster*July 10, 11, and 12, at Deer Creek with Ben Karle*July 14 and 15 at the Enmarket Arena in Savannah, GA with my friends Earth and Jessie*July 17 at Walnut Creek in Raleigh, NC, with Bryan Rodgers*July 18 and 19 at Merriweather Post Pavilion in Columbia, Maryland with Skinny and JW from the Stub Me Down podcast*July 21 at the Lakeview Amphitheater in Syracuse, NY with Beth Ann Kempf*July 22-29 at Madison Square Garden with Megan Glionna*July 31 and August 1 at Fenway Park with Dave Hamilton*Finally, September 4-6 at Dick's with Stacie LeddenWhether or not you're seeing a show at any given venue on the tour, I would recommend listening to each episode. It gives you a flavor of what it's like to see Phish at that venue and what it's like to be in that city. I loved it.I do what to take a moment to thank every guest I just named for being generous with their time and their knowledge. Want to know what to do if you arrive in Madison a day early or end up staying a day late? Are you a barbecue fiend and want to know the best place to stop in Raleigh? Need to know how tight security is iSupport the show

311's Nick Hexum says he's working on new music for the band as he also gets ready for a tour alongside Dirty Heads.

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So I love this because, like, I feel like some people think that they're self-sabotaging, or they're in the same spiral, and it's like, yeah, but you kept packing the same stuff, expecting a new result. Brad Crowell 0:18  Or you're carrying around the old shit. Lesley Logan 0:19  Yes but and you just keep repacking the old shit, and that's why you don't get anything new. Lesley Logan 0:25  Welcome to the be it till you see it, podcast where we talk about taking messy action knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan Pilate instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained 1000s of people around the world, and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and be it till you see it. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:07  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the unraveling convo I had with Shari Teigman in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, you can pause this one and then listen to that one, or you can listen to this one here. We have to say we've got some fun stuff to talk about, and then go listen that one. But you cannot miss it.Brad Crowell 1:25  It's an epic episode. Lesley Logan 1:26  I want to be friends with her. Brad Crowell 1:27  Yeah, she's badass.Lesley Logan 1:29  I do. We should tell her, when we're in London, I don't like I really. Brad Crowell 1:32  We should tell her when we're in London. Lesley Logan 1:33  I don't know how we're gonna fit in another meal, but like, she can meet me for I don't know. She's great. Anyway.,Brad Crowell 1:39  She might be in New York. She lives between the two. Lesley Logan 1:42  She does live between the two. You know what? Then, if she doesn't at least we reached out. But, you know, at least we reached out. The sign that you have ADHD is that you want to hang out with someone, and then you hope that they're not available. Lesley Logan 1:53  Okay, today, while you guys are listening to this is April 30th 2026 and today we're bringing awareness to two things. Brad Crowell 2:00  Two things. Lesley Logan 2:01  So Walpurgis night. Brad Crowell 2:03  Walpurgis night.Lesley Logan 2:03  The Mass of St. Walpurgis Night or Walpurgis Night, is observed on April 30th in parts of northern and eastern Europe, from Sweden to the Czech Republic. It is known as Walpurgis in German speaking nations, Valborg in Sweden and Čarodejnice. Brad Crowell 2:20  Good job. I'm really impressed. Lesley Logan 2:22  There's a J and an N connected to each other. Brad Crowell 2:24  Čarodejnice. Lesley Logan 2:26  Čarodejnice because there's an E in there too. In the Czech Republic.Brad Crowell 2:29  We butchered the hell out of that. So if you don't know how to say it, send us a voicemail, send us a DM.Lesley Logan 2:35  You can, you can call us and leave us a message. And I would love to hear how to say that. (inaudible) Walpurgis Night is also known as the other Halloween. For example, on April 30th, a traditional Walpurgis night ritual involves the burning of an effigy of a witch on a campfire in Sweden. This is a bonfire night once thought to ward off evil spirits, but it's now a fun way to get rid of excess gardening trash. I'm here for the gardening trash. I'm not here for burning fucking witches. So, Brad, you sold me this wrong, because I didn't realize we're burning a witch. Brad Crowell 3:07  It said an effigy of a witch.Lesley Logan 3:09  An effigy of a witch. That's burning a witch. This is we are upset. We're rejecting.Brad Crowell 3:15  Oh, yeah, it's the sculpture or model of a person. Lesley Logan 3:18  Yeah. Brad Crowell 3:18  Well, we're getting rid of those witches. Lesley Logan 3:20  No, no, the witches are the healers, Brad, look it up. So the witches actually were the women healers who had all the information, and they kept it, and they passed it down to the other women about all these different ways to heal from different illnesses and aches and pains, and also how to do periods. And they had these wonderful, wonderful informations. And when they made those healers witches, those women became people that no one could talk to. They became untouchables. And so after three generations, you now no longer have history, and that is how they control you ladies, that's how they do it. So anyways, now that I've fixed that day, why don't you go on with the holiday that sounds way better?Brad Crowell 3:59  Oh yeah, we're not for burning witches. International Jazz Day, this is Brad's excitement here, join with people around the world as this day promotes jazz's roots and our intercultural influence every year, on April 30th. All that jazz. Many considered America's classical music, yeah, maybe, after all, jazz began in New Orleans over 100 years ago. Legendary jazz pianist and composer Herbie Hancock, along with, along with the UN helped create International Jazz Day in 2011. Read on for a musical look distinctly American art form, and don't miss out on a list of four cool jazz sub genres. Lesley Logan 4:36  Brad, what are those four sub genres? Brad Crowell 4:38  I have no idea, and didn't read the rest of that whole book. But what I can tell you is that this is something I love, I'm passionate about. I grew up listening on the way home from soccer practice with my dad, we would listen to 90.1 and it was Temple's Jazz, Temple Philadelphia Jazz station. So it really left an impact on me as a youngster, I got really into the music. And my dad wasn't really playing like performing jazz, but he does play the trombone. And was playing the trombone at the church, never playing jazz. He was always playing, you know, hymns and choirs, stuff, whatever. But, you know, I got really into that, and that was an inspiration as a kid to play the trombone myself. And then all through high school, I got really into jazz, and then I went to college for it, and I studied the trombone playing jazz there. And when I moved out to L.A. I sat all that down, and I started playing rock and roll with my bass guitar and singing and all that stuff. It was fun. But coming to Vegas, just down the street from where we live, is a lovely. Lesley Logan 5:34  Less than a mile. It's like half a mile, maybe three quarters, but. Brad Crowell 5:37  It is a hour that hosts a live jazz night every Monday night, and it's fantastic. Like the musicians are, you know, either grads or they're going through UNLV's Jazz programs. Some of them are doing their masters in music. And these guys get together and they jam every Friday. Lesley Logan 5:55  Monday. Brad Crowell 5:55  Every Monday, sorry, every Monday. And I have been very intentional about making sure I'm there. I just love listening. And I literally am, like, the super dork. People think I'm the manager or the owner of the bar. Lesley Logan 6:06  Because he has his computer out, you guys, and he works.Brad Crowell 6:08  Because I take my laptop and I work in the back corner. Lesley Logan 6:10  I'm like, 10 till 2. 10 pm till 2 am.Brad Crowell 6:13  Yeah, one. Usually I'm leaving around 1:15 but it's three hours of live jazz. They do three sets, and the third set is my favorite, because, talking about sub genres, they always start with, like, a little bit, like, you know, lower, more palatable, as it were, and by the end of the night they're playing, like, huge, like, intense fusion, crazy, like, like, like driving music. And I eat that up. I love that. I think it's, it is also my ADHD brain.Lesley Logan 6:41  Are we gonna tell them where to go for this jazz music? Brad Crowell 6:43  Yeah, it's called The Hard Hat, The Hard Hat Bar. Brad Crowell 6:46  You're trying to keep it to yourself but you're selling it. Brad Crowell 6:48  Yeah, yeah. No one else will love to go. I have my spot in the corner, so. Lesley Logan 6:50  Also, if you're in Vegas on a Monday night, there's not a lot to do. This is a thing you can do, and it's one of the oldest parts. It's not the oldest bar, but people think it is. It's one of the oldest bars.Brad Crowell 6:59  It was in the is started in the 60's, I think.Lesley Logan 7:01  Yeah. According to Las Vegas City (inaudible), it's the third oldest bar.Brad Crowell 7:05  Yeah, but we love it. I love it. Lesley has been there once I think. Lesley Logan 7:08  Zero times. Brad Crowell 7:08  Zero times? You've never been?Lesley Logan 7:09  You've never taken me. Nope. That's why.Brad Crowell 7:10  It's not I haven't taken you. You there's never a chance where you're awake. Zero chances that you're awake.Lesley Logan 7:16  There's zero chances, I mean, on a Monday night. But I here's the thing, guys, I gotta go, because Brad doesn't really under, like, he didn't really understand what like signals he was putting out one Monday night. These people were at his table where he has his computer so he can watch and be on his computer. So he just kept looking at the people at this table over and over and over again. Brad Crowell 7:35  Yeah, I kept glancing and like, how many drinks are these people gonna have, like I want my corner. I like my little spot.  Lesley Logan 7:41  And then he, like, had us finally sit down with his back to them. So then he kept turning around and looking at them, and so they bought him a drink, thinking he was hitting on them.Brad Crowell 7:52  It's true. They definitely, I apparently got caught looking and and I realized, oh yeah, okay, that happened.Lesley Logan 7:59  Yeah, I'm just fine when you're table, although I this would happen to anybody like us, because, like, I'm near my table, that's my spot. Anyways, I'll get to The Hard Hat one of these days, one of these Tuesdays, I won't have to get up at five in the morning, so I'll check it out. But go, go listen to some jazz. Go just play it on your Spotify today, because it's International Jazz Day.Brad Crowell 8:14  If you want, if you want some recommendations, I'm a big fan of a US based group. They're from DC area. They're named Snarky Puppy, and it's, it's a really cool group, because they are like a mix of different musicians that will come in and leave. So sometimes this the band might be four people, sometimes it might be 20 people, right? And they and they just, wherever they do concerts, they pull in all these locals, and they have, like the band director effectively, is a brilliant composer, and he composes with other people. But I've really enjoyed listening to Snarky Puppy. So if you're wondering, you know, what are we talking about here, check them out. Brad Crowell 8:53  I hope people have an idea of jazz. I would love so. The world is going to hell. And I think it is really, especially hell, if you have not heard some jazz.Brad Crowell 9:01  Yeah, but I'm not listening to like, Kenny G elevator jazz, like, that's not my jam. I want something that has definitely got more, you know, juice.Lesley Logan 9:10  Yeah, yeah. Okay. Well, thanks, babe, thanks for, I love your holiday.Brad Crowell 9:15  I have another one. I'm gonna share one more. Lesley Logan 9:16  Okay. Brad Crowell 9:17  So Stan Kenton's Cuban Fire Suite is a journey, and it's worth just sitting down with a, you know, a glass of wine and listening to it from start to finish. I love it. Have so much fun. Enjoy that. Brad Crowell 9:27  All right, here's what's coming up. So Lesley is super busy tomorrow, starting all day, because we have a whole bunch of people coming to the house. They're actually been coming through all day today, doing private sessions with Lesley, and tomorrow she's kicking off the Cadillac Weekend. Lesley Logan 9:42  It's the third weekend of five weekends. Brad Crowell 9:44  For eLevate, her mentorship program.Lesley Logan 9:47  Yeah, and if you're wanting to know more information about 2027's eLevate, there's a few spots left. We actually, on the day we're recording this, accepted two more people. So between, they may have already put their deposit in, which maybe we really like have three spots left, but don't be like, oh, I'm never gonna get it. Like, if you want it, fine, right? Like, we can talk about it. The application is really easy. It's mostly so I can make sure it's the right program for you. I don't, I don't want to sell you something that's not what you're looking for. So lesleylogan.co/elevate. A seventh through the 10th, we'll be in, well, Scottsdale, actually, Brad, we're in Scottsdale at P.O.T. so we hope to see you there. We'll have a booth. I'm not teaching at it, but we'll have a booth. So come, come by. Say hi. I think we're gonna have the dog. Lesley Logan 10:27  Yeah, we're gonna bring Bayon. We're driving in. We're taking the dog. It's a camp tent. Brad Crowell 10:33  We called ahead, and they were like, oh yeah, we're totally dog friendly toys, we're ike, heck, yeah, let's do it.Lesley Logan 10:37  So we're bringing our dog, because it would be so sad. We'll have him home for a month and we have to leave him again. Spring Training is right after we get back. It is May 12th to the 17th. It's about getting upside down, getting overhead. It's really like all the OPC teachers and I are using the workouts.Brad Crowell 10:51  That's OPC Spring Training.Lesley Logan 10:52  Yeah, we're using the workouts and on the mat reformer, tower, and Wunda chair to help you understand the connections, you need to actually do upside down overhead exercises with control and strength so you don't have to fear about hurting your neck or or also you think like I can't do these exercises. I have belly abundance or chest abundance, or whatever. Now there are people that they're not ideally for, but well, you'll learn the replacement exercises for yourself. So you can be in any of these classes, because I do not believe to be an advanced practitioner you do upside down stuff. To be an advanced Pilates practitioner, you have to have connections, so you could be doing non upside down stuff and be an advanced practitioner. So I'm excited for you for that. So opc.me/events and then Summer Tour is literally gonna be announced at any moment, and if it hasn't already so opc.me/tour.Brad Crowell 11:39  Tickets are coming at the end of May or beginning of June, because it'll basically be after spring training.Lesley Logan 11:46  Yeah, right after. So we are going to do, we are doing, and we're doing a route we've never done before.Brad Crowell 11:51  Yeah, I know I'm excited. We're going to be going straight across the middle of the country all the way out to Knoxville, and then we're going to loop back around and hit North Texas on the way back. And then I think we're going to do Tucson, because we haven't been there in a really long time. Lesley Logan 12:01  Yeah, fixing it up, giving another city in Arizona some love, so. Lesley Logan 12:06  But go to opc.me/tour.Lesley Logan 12:11  Oh my god, we've already seen the merch.Brad Crowell 12:13  It's really fun. Lesley Logan 12:14  You guys, even though every year, every tour, we're like, that's so great. How could it get better? It gets better, it gets better. It gets better. So anyways, we have to get into Shari, because she's so great. But before we do that, we have a question.Brad Crowell 12:25  We sure do. @laurat9266 from YouTube asks, hey, would you ever consider a springboard for home use over the Wunda chair or spine corrector? I am gonna jump in right now.Lesley Logan 12:38  Okay, tell me, what do you think?Brad Crowell 12:39  They do, completely different thing.Lesley Logan 12:41  Great job. Brad. Way to go.Brad Crowell 12:42  Thank you. Like, why not have both.Lesley Logan 12:45  Well, and also, like a springboard, it just hangs on the wall, takes up almost no space, so you could still have room for a spine corrector. Brad Crowell 12:47  Well, that's what I mean. You clearly need a reformer to do the springboard, so.Lesley Logan 12:47  No, you just need a wall. The springboard is like a. Brad Crowell 12:47  I was thinking the jump board. Lesley Logan 12:47  You were thinking a jump board. But also still a different thing. Brad Crowell 12:54  They still do different things. Lesley Logan 13:00  Yeah. So the springboard is, like, what you see on the walls with it's like, my wall unit, but like, half of a wall, because it doesn't even stick out from the wall. Brad Crowell 13:10  Right. This just got a couple hooks in it. Lesley Logan 13:12  Because I don't know why you're considering these three, right? Like, it sounds like space might be a diff, like, what we're talking about. Brad Crowell 13:19  Well, maybe also cost. Lesley Logan 13:20  Yeah or it could be cost. Springboards can be expensive, you guys, like, they are almost the same price as my tower, my tower, because I bought the high mat with it, it's like $2,200 full price. So like a springboard is like $1,700 I'm you have to look at these things, and also, who knows, because of all the shits going on. So use my discount. We'll put our, we'll put our Balanced Body, Contrology discount in here. But here's the thing, it depends on what you need. So if you're someone who has a bit more asymmetries, and you're more building your connections up than a springboard, or I prefer my Controlology wall tower, to be honest, because it has the push through bar and it's away from the wall, so it actually provides you the opportunity to do monkey, which you need space behind the tower to do. And also there's some things you can hang off the poles for, like there's just stuff you can do that you can't do with a springboard. So I prefer that if you're using that that can be a great way to take your mat practice to the next level, reformer practice to the next level, and develop the connections you need to advance your practice. When you look at equipment, when the space, the surface space, gets smaller, the more advanced it gets. So the Wunda chair, if you look at the surface space of a Wunda chair, compared to a mat or reformer or Cadillac, springboard, would be using a mat. It's going to be a more advanced piece of equipment. It's going to challenge the connections you have. There's definitely a lot of uses for it to teach exercises that are more advanced on the reformer and mat. It's just inherently a bit more of an advanced piece of equipment. It requires strong balance and connections. Has a lot of great work for asymmetry connections, but it's not easy. It's definitely got a challenge I love I love it, and I think it's wonderful for home use. Also you can do like five, six exercises on. And jump off. It's not it's great. The spine corrector is a whole different modality. So if you were to get one, only one thing, I would say, if you have access to doing mat work or going to a studio for other stuff, get a spine corrector because there's very few spine corrector classes, and every single person who listens to this podcast should be on a spine corrector, every single person. There is a plethora of exercises on there, but there's two series on there that everyone can do almost daily without overworking themselves, and that is the arm series and the leg series. So I really love a spine corrector. I love the Contrology one, mostly. But if you have an arc, you can check and look at my videos. I have tips on how to do that. So I would just say, like it really depends on what your goals are, Laura, and then it's go from there, you'll pick but you could honestly have all three of these in the same space, because, like the spine corrector can hang on a wall, the Springboard's on a wall, the Wunda chair can be pushed up against someone when it's not in use, you could pull it all out. So that's you know. Get them all.Brad Crowell 16:01  If you want to know which Contrology spine corrector she's talking about, just go to opc.me/spinecorrector opc.me/spinecorrector, and you'll be able to find that over there. Yeah. So great question. Thanks for asking. If you have a question, just text us at 310-905-5534, or— Lesley Logan 16:16  Go ahead.Brad Crowell 16:16  You can submit it through, beitpod.com/questions where you can leave both a win and a question or one or the other. Lesley Logan 16:25  And you can also, anytime you want to buy anything from Balanced Body or Controlology, like, reach out for our affiliate link, because if you if you can get a discount, you should, and if you can't, well, I mean, there's reasons why you can't, but you can always just talk to me and we'll figure out if it works. But like, why not try? Doesn't hurt. Brad Crowell 16:42  Why not try? Love it. Yeah, stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 16:46  Welcome back. Let's dig into this convo you have with Shari Teigman. Shari is a dynamic performance coach and creative business strategist who empowers driven individuals to break free from conventional expectations and unleash the Maverick within. She specializes in guiding ambitious professionals and high achievers who are exhausted by the status quo and currently navigating life's major transitions such as midlife identity shifts and perimenopause. Using her bold, unconventional approach, she helps clients authentically unpack their emotional baggage, resolve internal contradictions and intentionally design lives guided by their own rules.Lesley Logan 17:27  We could have had her for three episodes like she's just phenomenal, has so much to share.Brad Crowell 17:33  I enjoy her transparency. I think it's really funny to me to listen to someone who is willing to be transparent so that people don't judge them. Because I know I do that, like, I build the caveat into the statement with what the things that I say. And I was listening to her do it, and I was like, and then she acknowledged that she was doing it. I was like, oh, that's really interesting. I get that.Lesley Logan 17:55  I also think that we both do it, and I've never acknowledged it. Sometimes I do. I'm like, I'm about to acknowledge, like, this is gonna sound hypocritical, but like, I don't know, like, I understand. Like, I like to say those things not to be judged. But like, so people know that I don't sit here on my pedestal like I've got it all together. You know? I think we all have to be human. Anyways, that's not what I loved. I loved, she said, in our lives, we walk around carrying everyone else's red shoes, pile of crap, and you walk around wheeling it with you, because you call it identity, you call it belonging. And she said, the first piece to finding yourself is to unpack. And I just, I was like, oh, that is like, what a visual, what a visual. We wheel this pile of crap around because we mistakenly call it our identity, belonging, culture, religion, family, like, all these things. And I've got a guest coming up that I've interviewed about, like, good daughtering And, like, I think especially the women listening to this can understand, like, you're like, taking on this stuff. Like, I have family members who are like, oh, do you want grandmas this and great grandparents this? It's like, oh my god, this is so much. I don't why do I have to be responsible for carrying on the legacy of this pot, you know, like that and it's not even, that's not even the emotional stuff. It's like, just like, but a visual of what things things are. And she said, this bag is filled with things that aren't yours, and so you have no room for new stuff. And that is like, so powerful. Like, if you're struggling to try new things, do new things, find yourself it's like, you can't, because I can't buy new a new coat. With this closet so full, I gotta get rid of some stuff, which is, which is the reason we're laughing is because we're packing, like, as we're recording this, we're packing for Europe. And I was like, it's gonna be so cold, and I love coats, and I can only bring one coat, and, like, buy another coat. I'm like, I don't need another coat. I have great coats. I can only take one. So you ultimately have to understand why you keep repacking the same thing in order to finally get a chance to make any real choices. So I love this because, like, I feel like some people think that they're self-sabotaging, or they're in the same spiral. It's like, Yeah, but you kept packing the same stuff, expecting a new result, you know. Brad Crowell 20:05  Or you're carrying around old shit. Lesley Logan 20:06  Yes, but, and you just keep repacking the old shit, and that's why you don't get anything new. Like, we had Brad Bisjack on, and I'm pretty sure it was in his episode we talked about, like, to get to the next level, you have to have a new backpack of stuff, you know. So anyways, like, I think there's some physical and mental unpacking a lot of us have to do if we want to be it till we see it. Brad Crowell 20:27  That's episode 589, if you're wondering. Brad Bizjack, it was a fantastic episode. Lesley Logan 20:32  I've stopped guessing, it's beyond. Brad Crowell 20:34  Yeah, it's all right, we're at 674, not 47.Lesley Logan 20:37  I wish I could have kept going, guys, it would have been like this thing, if you've been a longtime listener that like, wow, she keeps doing it. But now new listeners, I used to be like, I used to just get them right. This one, that one.Brad Crowell 20:49  Well, I really loved when she was talking about the next step after the red shoes, where she was talking about making space for new things, like the unpacking part of it. She said, in order for you to okay, hold on, how much joy do you actually want? How much joy do you want in your life? Lesley Logan 21:08  Okay, you're asking me? Brad Crowell 21:09  I'm asking you, how much joy do you want?Lesley Logan 21:11  Like, all the joy.Brad Crowell 21:12  All the joy, all the joy. I want all the joy. Do you want all the joy? Of course, why would we not say I want joy. I want happiness in my life? She said, equal to the level of joy and fulfillment and peace that you want in your life, you have to be willing to go as deep internally.Lesley Logan 21:29  Oh, I see yes.Brad Crowell 21:31  So if you want massive amounts of joy, you have to be willing to go massively deep into yourself. Right? And so she was talking about unpacking and letting go. And she said, you know, when she discovered some of the things, she said letting go of those things, it wasn't like an overnight thing. And she said it was actually she had, she to go through a grieving process when she was letting go of some of the things because, you know, you've, you've embraced this worldview for your entire life. Or you were, like someone hurt, you know, you were hurt in some way by someone or something or whatever, and or something failed, and it really, you know, scarred you. You know, she said, during the process of unpacking, it actually created a lot of grief. And she said, but if you don't do it, that emotion will sneak up on you and it will come back and bite you in the ass when you don't want it to. Lesley Logan 22:25  Right. You have to do it anyways. You're gonna have to do it. You may as well do it in a time when you're in control of it. Brad Crowell 22:30  Yeah. I mean, it's, it's part of the process of making space for something new. And she said, if we feel trapped, how we get out of that is we release, we go deeper in and then, and then we can come out the other side. So, you know, you, if you're feeling stuck right now, it has to be looking internally, and that's gonna be how (inaudible). Lesley Logan 22:49  All the work. Like, I don't want to do a little bit of work, just have a little bit of joy. That seems like an annoying amount of effort. I'd rather do a lot of work to have a lot of joy. Like that feels like I'm in it to win on that. Brad Crowell 22:58  100% well stick around we'll be right back. Lesley Logan 23:00  I want to go off on a tangent. Brad Crowell 23:01  Just get it, go up on a tangent. Lesley Logan 23:02  Okay, so, today, the day we're recording this, Margaret Margarita Margareta Magnusson died. She got people excited about or aware of something called the Swedish death cleaning. And the Swedish death cleaning is that you, you, it's a Scandinavian decluttering method that is about removing unnecessary items before you die, so that you're not leaving your fucking red shoes for someone else to back around. And the idea is, like, it's it's not supposed to be like, morbid. It's actually supposed to be like, you invite people over. They take that, you tell them the story about the things and the things that nobody wants, and you can, like, let go of and someone can take, so that when you pass, one, all those things are gone. And two, like, in your living days, tell people how important that was, or what that thing meant, or where the history of that thing was, so they can have it. And then when you pass, they don't have to clean up your crap.Brad Crowell 23:56  Yeah, it's Döstädning. I love it. That's actually brilliant. And as long as you're not guilt-tripping people into taking your shit, don't do that.Lesley Logan 24:05  Right. You know what? We all know who those people are in our lives, and we don't have to go so. Brad Crowell 24:08  Yeah, it's called Döstädning, and it, you know, as it works, as long as you're not guilt tripping people into taking your shit. But there's a book about it. It's called The Gentle Art of Swedish Death Cleaning.Lesley Logan 24:18  Do you think if I send that to my mom, it would be considered passive aggressive or just aggressive?Brad Crowell 24:26  Well, I mean, wait, that she should be doing this? Lesley Logan 24:30  I think that I. Brad Crowell 24:31  Well, but that means that we have to go, like, everyone goes to the place and there's like a ceremony. Lesley Logan 24:36  Other people go, I've already, don't I already already took what I need, but she should do it for other people.Brad Crowell 24:41  Yeah, no. I mean, I think this is wise. I think this, this is more of a process of actually the telling of the story and the stuff gives things meaning. Right. And so my grandfather didn't quite do it this way, but he while he was alive, he let the kids my my parent, my dad. And his siblings go through everything and get rid of it. So by the time, you know, when he did pass away, eventually, you know, the cleanup of his estate was like, it was done immediately. Everything was already ready to go. So I saw that, and that was, like, really helpful. But not gonna lie, even with being diligent, it took my parents years, years, even being diligent, right? Lesley Logan 25:24  And I, he didn't do it. But I do feel like the things, some of the things we took, we got the history of it through the family members, but like, I just, this is just on the tangent of like, sharing, like, in the physical and emotional space, of like, what can we do for the people around us so that they don't feel this need to carry on? Because I do think some of the listeners, like, I have family members who, like, won't let go of stuff, because, like, that was my like, I feel I've even heard your friend go, that's great grandpa's stuff. And it's like, holy shit. We are going to need bigger homes, not just like, physically, but. Brad Crowell 25:54  Like, we're making our own museums.Lesley Logan 25:56  Mentally, because, like, you, you it's hard. It's just anyways, we all want to be better people want to have joy in sometimes we're don't. We don't have that because we got a bunch of other people's stuff in the way. That's all. Anyways, it's just another way of thinking about it.Brad Crowell 26:08  Wait one, one less way to be trapped. Yeah, because, because trapped now, now I'm see because trapped is two things. You can be trapped by keeping the stuff yourself. You can also be trapped if someone dies and leaves you a bunch of shit you got to deal with. So, right? You know, like, it's, it's definitely challenging so.Lesley Logan 26:25  And it's, and when they, and if they do those red shoes she's talking about, I'm just thinking about like, when people die suddenly, or they die and there's unanswered emotional like problems and stuff like, you then feel like you have to protect the red shoes. And so I just think that there's some things we could be doing as we be it until we see it, as we change our lives, become better than the people like we once were to get 1% better, whatever those things are. How can we be making it so that the people around us don't carry our fucking red shoes? I don't want anyone carrying I mean, you might like them, but I don't want anyone have it feel like they have to. Brad Crowell 26:54  All right. Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into those Be It Action Items with Shari Teigman. Brad Crowell 27:01  Welcome back. All right, let's talk about the Be It Action Items that you have with your convo with Shari Teigman. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away? She said, when it comes to being trapped and going deeper and trying to figure that out, how do we do that? She said, however, you need to. Punch it out. Punch a pillow. Cry in a pillow, write it out, burn it out, whatever your ritual needs to be, dance it out. Bang it out. She explains that we have to tell the truth to ourselves. We cannot pretend that like only having the highlight reel and then that that's okay and it's gonna allow us to feel like a human, because otherwise it will still sneak up on you, right? If we don't allow emotion, the emotion will sneak up on you when you don't want it. And she said, emotion is just emotion. It's not good or bad. Lesley Logan 27:44  This goes back to Dr. Bender, like her second interview. She's like, we always are trying to figure out the reason why we feel an emotion. But she's like, just let it go by. Sometimes it's just emotion your body wants to feel. It has nothing to do with what you're thinking about right now. Brad Crowell 27:55  Yeah, she said she views this active emotional release as essential. Basically, she said, I'm going to grieve, because it's part of my process of making space for something new. So, yeah, I thought that was great. I mean, I think especially acknowledging that emotion is just emotion. It's not good or bad. Don't judge yourself, you know. I mean, don't maybe don't break a window. But, like, you know, if you have to be loud, be loud. It's okay. Lesley Logan 28:21  When I leave breath work for the Agency members, I'm like, you could laugh, you could cry, you could do you could want to, like, scream into a pillow. You could need to get up and dance. You can need to shake your hands like you don't need to figure out why you need to do that. Just do the thing because it doesn't like, it's just, we're we're trying to release what's inside you. We don't have to figure out why we need to release what's inside you. Just let it go. Okay. Brad Crowell 28:39  Yeah. What about you? Lesley Logan 28:40  So many good so many good things. But this is brilliant. She said, clean up the internal contradictions, which, by the way, as an ADHD person, this is like, I'm a walking internal contradiction. But if you don't understand, I like people, I want to be away from them. She's, she's like, you're, she said, if you're saying, you want to have a bigger life, but you keep making micro choices. You're lying to your nervous system, because you're answering the old version of yourself like you're not actually doing the work you're not doing the be it till you see it. This is basically what you're doing. So she said, the identity you want for the life you you want is going to require align actions to that. So what you want, you have to make align actions for that. It sounds common sensical, but look at the internal contradictions you're doing. What are you doing that's not necessarily aligned? So she advises to choose your actions intentionally instead of making excuses. And I think this is, you know, really important. I remember, like trying to figure out, like, an excuse for why I was late for things or not able to do stuff. And honestly, it's so much easier to go I just didn't do it. I screwed up, like, instead of I think it's a lot easier, and you can just move on and go from there. So I agree with that. And then she said, once you clean all this up, the questions you ask will become much more clear and much more honest, and then you'll get those like, answers that align with that. So she this is just such a good episode. You have to listen to the whole thing. So if you haven't, got to go listen to it, because we cannot do Shari Teigman the way Shari Teigman does Shari Teigman. You got to listen to her. And she does have a journal coming out, The Maverick Way: A Field Guide to Coming Undone on Purpose. And you can go follow her on Instagram. We have all that in there. Shari Teigman. So anyways, I love it. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 30:18  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 30:19  Hey, go listen to the episode. Share it with a girlfriend who needs to hear it. Share it with a friend who's carrying around someone else's red shoes. And maybe that becomes the thing like, sounds like you got some red shoes of somebody's, I don't know, share it with a friend, because this is how the podcast continues to grow. Gets even better guests. Brad Crowell 30:35  Even better. Lesley Logan 30:35  I'm so excited for where we're growing, and the people that we've been able to get on. The lineup that you've got coming up is some really fun, amazing things. So go, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 30:44  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 30:45  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 31:27  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 31:32  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 31:37  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 31:44  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 31:47  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Brad Crowell 32:00  Hi, okey doke. Episode 647. Lesley Logan 32:06  Wait. Say that again. Brad Crowell 32:09  Episode 647 Lesley Logan 32:10  Say it one more time. Brad Crowell 32:12  Episode 647Lesley Logan 32:13  674 Brad Crowell 32:16  Episode 674 Lesley Logan 32:18  Whoa, dyslexic. Hey, keepsake. How about keepsake on that one. Lesley Logan 32:24  Episode 674, Shari Teigman. Lesley Logan 32:27  Just so we are all clear, because I need evidence and receipts. My husband, two days in a row has just that dyslexic marking these dates down.Brad Crowell 32:36  Any fucking way. Let's move on. All right. 674, Shari Teigman. Bayon, thank you. Please don't bark. Brad Crowell 32:45  Stan Kenton wrote, wrote something called the wow. My my middle school no high school jazz band. My high school jazz band actually played from start to finish, pausing. Welcome back.Lesley Logan 33:06  I'm here. Brad Crowell 33:07  Welcome back. Lesley Logan 33:08  So Walpurgis, night. Brad Crowell 33:10  Walpurgis. Lesley Logan 33:11  Walpurgis. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Today On With Mario Lopez – The band The Fray joins us to talk new album 'A Light That Waits', Summer tour, hit songs trending on TikTok and more! Plus, we get to your Comment of The Week, a new round of The Slang Game, latest music news and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Liverpool is coming to Nashville this summer for the preseason Summer Tour! To talk more about it, Liverpool legend Goalkeeper David James joined Nick Frazier. David and Nick discussed all things soccer and how the world's game continues to grow in North America. David shared his excitement for the city of Nashville and what the atmosphere might be in July! If you want to purchase tickets to see Liverpool take on Sunderland, you can go to ticketmaster.com.

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There is so much happening in the DMB world right now, and we had to hop on to catch up on it all. From DMB announcing their 2026 Summer Tour, to the "Take Me Back: Live From The Gorge" release and Volta streams, to us becoming the new hosts of SiriusXM's DMB Radio, the last few weeks have been a whirlwind! And be sure to tune in next week for our Dave & Tim Mexico recap episode with a very special guest! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode 117 kicks off the new year with plenty to talk about! We're recapping the Dave & Tim shows in Mexico, discussing our excitement around the newly announced release of Take Me Back / Live from the Gorge 5LP, and breaking down the freshly dropped 2026 Summer Tour announcement. Plus, we share our own 2026 resolutions and what we're manifesting for the year ahead. Welcome back! 

Lesley sits down with coach, author, and podcast host Wendy Valentine to explore radical self-transformation in midlife. Wendy shares how to shed limiting identities, align with your true self, and treat “energy” as a constant evolution. You will hear practical steps to envision who you're becoming, invite her in, and take bold action without waiting for perfect timing.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Chiseling away identities that are not you to reveal your authentic self.Comfort zones vs. growth: why familiar isn't the same as aligned.Wendy's midlife pivot from breakdown to purpose-driven rebuilding.Her BE IT method: Become, Envision, Invite, Take action.Feeling your way through life instead of overthinking every move.Episode References/Links:Wendy Valentine Website - https://wendyvalentine.comWendy Valentine Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wendy_valentine_Free Access to FREEDOM Meditations - https://beitpod.com/freedommeditationsThe Midlife Makeover Show - https://wendyvalentine.com/podcastBook: Women Waking Up by Wendy Valentine - https://wendyvalentine.com/womenwakingupEp. 400: Gay Hendricks - https://beitpod.com/gayhendricksStephanie Gass on Cathy Heller's Podcast - https://beitpod.com/stephaniegassGuest Bio:Wendy Valentine is a speaker, certified professional life coach, and author of Women Waking Up—a midlife rebel with a mission to help women reignite their spark and embrace the magic of midlife. As the host of The Midlife Makeover Show podcast, ranked in the top 1% globally and #1 in midlife on iTunes and Spotify, Wendy inspires her listeners to embrace the magic of midlife and live with passion and purpose. Through her transformative group coaching program, F.R.E.E.D.O.M. at Midlife, and her in-person retreats, Wendy helps women kick fear to the curb, reclaim their joy, and live life on their terms. Whether she's soaking up the beauty of Madeira, Portugal, or cruising across the USA in her trusty motorhome, Felicia, Wendy lives for adventure and believes that life only gets better with age. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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And we, deep down, know what those things are, but sometimes we still cling to those things that we are not, right, because it feels comfortable.Lesley Logan 0:20  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:59  All right, Be It babe. I'm so obsessed. I'm so obsessed with today's guest. Like, there's times I'm like, oh, I love all these people. And then there's times I'm like, okay, this guest, I want to be friends with. I want to have coffee with. I want to have a weekly date with. When I enter her, I'd say, like, she is like, this beam of light. And I'm telling you, she's a beam of light, and she really, really, really creates this amazing space for you to step up into the woman that you are wanting to be it till you see it. So Wendy Valentine's, our guest, super, super fun. She's the host of the Midlife Makeover Show, and I was on her show. So if you want to go check out that show to get to know her more. And you know, that's a good episode to start with, because obviously you trust me, so there's that. And then you can, like, go through all of her catalog. She's just so amazing. So I'm gonna let us get into this episode so you can get all the good stuff coming from Wendy Valentine. Lesley Logan 1:45  All right, Be It babe, today's guest and I are already having too much fun. She's only in Sedona right now, so she's not too far off, but I feel like we should be hanging out in real life. Wendy Valentine, you're just, tell everyone why you're just such the magical like beam of light that we all want to be around and be your best friend.Wendy Valentine 2:16  How much time do we have?Lesley Logan 2:21  I mean at least 30 minutes of you telling us why you're so amazing.Wendy Valentine 2:27  There is one word that I hear all the time. It's a word that's used to describe me the most. No, it's not crazy. I do get that sometimes, but it's energy, energy, energy, energy. And I was thinking about this this morning, because, as we know, like, energy cannot be created or destroyed. Yeah, it's only transformed into something else, right? You had an ice cube on the pan back there in the RV, and then it melts into water, and then eventually it goes into steam. And I think that's like, I feel like, for myself right now in my life, like I am becoming that steam and moving into the universe. That sounds all so voodoo, but it's like that constant evolving, which I think is so magnificent, and just moving into the energy of it all.Lesley Logan 3:18  Yeah, I think that's so cool. So how did you become someone who is, like, known for energy? Like, how did this like, have like, were you born this way? Was this your job when you were in your 20s? Did this just happen?Wendy Valentine 3:30  Well, you know, I mean, good question. I mean, as you know, we're all energy, but I think it's when I really started to own, to own it, to own who I am and to create who I wanted to be, not to family and friends and society and all that other crap wanted me to be. It's when I finally stepped into my true self and my true calling. And I think you know what? Like that whole like, be your authentic self, be your true self, that's all like being thrown around a lot these days. We're like, what does that mean? What does it mean, really?Lesley Logan 4:04  I know, but tell me how, but tell me how. Because I was born like I was raised in like, follow these instructions. Do this work. If you do all these things, then everything works out, which is bullshit and so and then people go and then be your authentic self. And I'm like, okay, but how? Because I don't think I've ever been, I was never taught to be authentic. I was taught to follow the rules. Wendy Valentine 4:23  Yeah, you know what though? It's more about it's not learning who you are to become. It's learning who you are not. And I love the analogy of Michelangelo and the beautiful statue of David. Let's all picture him for a moment. Oh yes. But when they when they asked Michelangelo, how did you carve the statue of David? He's like, oh, that was easy. I just carved away everything that was not him. So if you think about it, you should always have that chisel in your hand in the nicest of ways, but constantly and consciously be chiseling away the things that are not you. And we, deep down, know what those things are, but sometimes we still cling to those things that we are not, right, because it feels comfortable. Even though it's uncomfortable, it's comfortable, it's like, but this is who I am. This is my identity, yeah.Lesley Logan 5:14  Well, and I think, like, I think a lot of people, you said it's my identity, it's their identity, to be always going through drama, to be always like, to always have a shit day at work. Like, can you believe it? Can you believe this happened? Like those, it's that's some people's identity. And, like, I get so annoyed with myself when I, like, hear myself repeating the same negative, bad thing that happened, and I'm like, is this becoming something that has, like, a growth on my shoulder, or like, like, is this becoming part of the of like, of the not the costume, but like, what is Lesley? Because it's like, I don't want to hear this anymore, so I definitely don't want to stick around. So I love the idea of a, I go a visual, physical chisel going no, no, no.Wendy Valentine 5:58  Part of you know that is not you. There's that quote from Marianne Williamson, it is my fave, and it's got me through the toughest of times, or gotten me to where I'm at now. And she says, our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us, because you think about it, if you were to step fully into your light, what does that mean? Like what does that look like? Right? Because that would require, possibly, just like myself, it would require maybe a divorce, maybe quitting a job you hate, maybe moving, maybe buying an RV like I did. Maybe, I mean, it's going to require you to actually move and do some shit in your life if you truly stepped into your light, but, or you could just stay right there in the dark because it's more comfortable, because it's predictable. The darkness is predictable, the the uncomfortable comfort zone is predictable, predictable, right? Yeah.Lesley Logan 7:03  Yeah, I mean, I don't know who said it, but, like, there is, like, that story of, like, why does a dog, like, not move off of sitting on that rock? It's like, well, the rock isn't uncomfortable enough, you know, and so a lot of people wait to, wait so long, and so they're so uncomfortable, and then they shed it all, and then they step into this light. And that, it can be scary. Like we interviewed Gay Hendricks on this podcast, and he is the, I know, I fucking love him, he's such a sweet man. He's just, he, like, every time I go to Cambodia, he's like, did you get some milk fruit? Like, he's just, he's like, it's the best fruit. And he is right. It is the best fruit. And it's only available half of the time, so I'm never there, but I got to have it. But at any rate, he talks about your big leap is, like, because, like, when you are in your comfort zone, you can even, like, he even called like, your your like, zone of genius, and you're like, okay, well, that's a good spot to be in. Like, that's like, amazing, but it's or zone of excellence, excuse me. Like, of course I would like to be there. Like, that sounds really good, but like, that's actually still uncomfortable, but like it's comfortable, like it's actually not where your light is, that you're talking about, it's like, it's like, there's another layer, there's an outer ring, there's that ring of light around Saturn, and you're supposed to be there. Wendy Valentine 7:03  That's just like, dipping your toe in the water. Lesley Logan 7:13  Yeah, but then he and he talks about, like, how, well, when you get to that zone of genius, when you get to that outer ring, you get to your light, then there's, like, a few things that we do to just fuck it all up and bring us back to that comfortable discomfort, you know, like that self-deprivation.Lesley Logan 7:13  And a comfort zone is a beautiful place, but nothing ever grows there.Lesley Logan 8:38  Oh, Wendy Valentine, say it one more time.Wendy Valentine 8:44  Soak it up. Soak it up. A comfort zone is a beautiful place, but nothing ever grows there. So if you want to grow, I know y'all do, you have got to get out of that damn comfort zone. You know, I want to say though, I was on the treadmill this morning, and I was thinking. Lesley Logan 8:58  Do you have a treadmill in your RV or do you go the gym? Wendy Valentine 9:04  No, I'm actually at this nice resort. I mean, RVing has come a long way, y'all, thank God.Lesley Logan 9:09  I mean, we live in our van like it's it's not so bad. Sometimes it's better than the hotel.Wendy Valentine 9:12  We got, we got hot tubs, we got swimming pools, we got food trucks. I mean, we don't mess around over here. But yeah, I was at the gym this morning and I was walking on the treadmill, and I was thinking, I love the name I have since the moment when I met you and I heard about your podcast. I love the name of your podcast. Be It Till You See It. And I got choked, people were probably like, why is that lady over there balling on the treadmill? And you know, right now, I'm reaping the benefits of what I sowed years ago and getting outside of my damn comfort zone. But you know, what's so cool? I might cry right now. I did not put on waterproof mascara, but I am seeing it in my life, all those seeds I planted years ago, and that amount of time. I watered and watered those damn seeds. It's like, I'm seeing it. It's like, it's so freaking cool when you get to that other side, and yes, you will, is so it is beautiful. It's much more beautiful. And, and yes, you will grow when you get to the other side of it. If you want, I can take y'all back to my breakdown to breakthrough. Lesley Logan 10:22  I was just gonna say, I think we need to go back to the seed planting days, or at least, like, the days before the RV, the day before the book, the days before the podcast. Like, what, what? Like, who were you? How did because we love you now. But like, we loved you then. But like, what? What was the reason for all what was the reason for all this, you know, seed reaping? Wendy Valentine 10:43  And we all love a good breakdown and a breakthrough story. Lesley Logan 10:46  Yeah, we do. Wendy Valentine 10:47  But make sure everyone grab your violin, (inaudible) sad song right now. So let's see. For about 45 years old, here I was. I was living in Virginia, going through a divorce, empty nest. I had chronic illness, black mold toxicity, Lyme disease. We'll toss in a little menopause, just, for fun.Lesley Logan 11:10  Yeah. I mean, for sure, probably, yeah.Wendy Valentine 11:13  Yeah, yeah. I was at least 150 grand in debt, unemployed. Let's see what else. Oh, within a six week period, I had to watch my dog die, my cat die, and my brother die. And then from all of that, I started experiencing panic attacks, anxiety, and needless to say, I went into a massive, deep, dark, awful depression. So here I was, 45 years old, and I was like, shit, now what? And, I mean, I kept thinking, I was like, I only turned 50. That's like, like, that, that halfway mark, if you're that lucky that it's an halfway mark, right? And I don't know if anything could have gotten worse for me in that moment. And let's, let's just all imagine the scene. I literally was laying on my bathroom floor, like laying there, bawling my eyes out, feeling sorry for myself, I'll admit, and I was thinking, What the hell am I going to do? And all of a sudden, like, and it was part of me like this, this vision popped in my head, and it was, it was a little bit of an escape, I'll admit, but it was a beautiful escape. And I was like, wouldn't be nice to just get the fuck out of here? You know, like, I just want to escape my my life that I was in. And I was like, I want to drive an RV across the country. And then I'm like, man. And then, of course, that nagging voice in my head was like, yeah, you're broke, you don't have a job. How that? How are you going to do that? And but then I was like, you know, I just want to sit here and think about this dream. It was the only thing that gave me hope. And so I thought, you know what? What the hell like my life. I was already down here. The only way was going up, right? I was like, let's just go for it. What's the worst that could happen? I'm gonna fucking go for it. So I got up and I started applying for jobs all the way across the country, like I was, I was so desperate. I was like, I'll take anything. Okay, I'll sell popsicles in Mexico. I don't care, whatever. So then I get a job offer a week later, selling, you'll probably, you're probably familiar with his name, Pulte, Pulte Del Webb, I got a job offer with Pulte to sell new construction homes in Chicago. And I was like, Chicago. Never been there. I didn't know how to sell homes, but what the hell. I pack off the U-Haul. I drive from Virginia to Chicago. I start my job on Monday. About a year later, I went from making $0 to a half a million dollars. Obviously, paid off all my debt, bought this RV that I'm sitting in right now. Now, mind you, okay, I love Pulte, and it was a great, beautiful company. But I am not a corporate girl. I am not. Like, that's a chisel where I was like, girl listen here, you're not you, you know. And I will have to say, that's a lesson in itself, right there. Don't be afraid to try something. That does not mean if you try something, you can't pivot, okay?Lesley Logan 14:33  Right and also, like, can I just, like, say, like, I mean, clearly, Pulte was, like, quite the bridge to show you what you're capable of, and it get was a one, the fact that in one year, you can make that much money, going from zero to that much money, and not become someone who doesn't like, take your dreams the next level. You actually like, used it to launch yourself. I think it's like, I think it's so cool. Wendy Valentine 14:57  Yes and how easy would it have been for me to stay there. Lesley Logan 15:00  Oh, yeah and so. Wendy Valentine 15:01  Everyone was like, why are you gonna leave this job that you're you're killing it, killing it. I was like, yeah, but this is not for me. The chisel.Lesley Logan 15:09  Well and also, yeah, the chisel, I love that. And also, like, we had a lot of people that are like, I want to do this thing. I'm just gonna go all in. And I'm like, honey, if you can't pay for your bills, you can't pay your food, you are going to put pressure on this dream you have. Go get a job at Starbucks, make sure your bills are paid, have health insurance, all the things, and then use every other minute to make this thing happen. So I actually think it's really cool that not only you did it in a year, but that you, at a year, were able to, like, evaluate and go, I gotta chisel this off, because this isn't me, and not listen to the family who's like, you should just stay and make all that money. Wendy Valentine 15:46  Yes and remind yourself, if you are in a job you don't love, you're you're in a relationship you don't love, you're living in a place you don't love, remind yourself this is temporary. Everything is temporary, right? I mean, all in all, everything is temporary. Just remind yourself like this is just for now. This is just for now. Like, every day when I'd be, like, driving in the snow in Chicago, heading to this job to, like, talk about granite countertops. I was like, It's okay. I can do this. I cant do this. But then, yeah, I was like, all right, well, what am I going to do? I don't want to work for corporate. I and I was like, you know, I've always, I want to be a writer. I always knew I would become a writer. I was like, I want to be a writer. How am I? How am I going to become a writer? And I always wanted to have my own show. So I was like, how am I going to do this? And I had to be able to work remotely. Obviously, because traveling in an RV, I had to be able to work remotely, right? So I was listening to Cathy Heller's podcast and she was interviewing Stephanie Gass. And something, you know, it's like, if you get that funny feeling in your tummy, that gut instinct of like, I need to move on this. I don't know what it is, just do not question it. Just go for it. I hired Stephanie Gass, and within 30 minutes, I knew exactly what my niche was going to be and what my podcast was going to be called. And I was like, that's it. I had I had it. I was like, I'm going to talk about midlife. I'm going to talk about not even just midlife, but transforming your life. Because I did it, like, I was the guinea pig, right? I'm like, I did, I know how to do it. So I kept my day job, and then at night, I started working on my dream business. I started working on the website and then the photography and the the podcast, all, all the stuff, you know, right? Started doing my research and just little by little, and then eventually, the RV, finally, I ordered it like eight months before, finally arrived and it was go time to quit my job and take off into the Sedona sunset.Lesley Logan 17:51  Okay but also, like, I think it's so, I wanted to say, like, I think sometimes we, like, underestimate what we can do in a short period of time, because you just celebrated 50. Am I correct?Wendy Valentine 18:01  Yeah, yeah. So it took me, well, actually, I'm 52. It took me from the moment, like when I moved to Chicago, to taking off in the RV, it took me approximately two and a half years, and then I've been on the road for three so, yes, it takes time. And is it easy? Hell no. Is it worth it? Hell yes.Lesley Logan 18:23  Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, there's, you know, like, I think things happen faster than we think, and some things are a little slower than we expected. Like, the time, we never get the timeline exactly right. But also, like, it would have been so like, could you imagine on the bathroom floor being like, well, it's gonna take a long time. I don't know. Like, I bet, you know what I mean, I think we just take, we talk ourselves out of things so and we also think, well, I'm at this age. I should be already. Like, I should be doing this program. I should have this already. I mean, like, I kind of think it's really cool that you were the guinea pig and you can actually, like, guide so many women who, for sure, are, I said, someone on the podcast, she's like, I'm a bird launcher. I'm not an empty nester. Like, I want I like, I launched some birds. And she's, you know, but you can take the.Wendy Valentine 18:24  That's what I did. I was like, shoo, shoo. Get out. Lesley Logan 19:05  Yeah, get out of the nest. It's mine now. But like, I think that there's a ton of people who work, not given the opportunity or encouraged when they were moms and wives and partners to be selfish and do their thing like I do believe that there's a ton of women who did and so, so if you're listening, yay for you, but I think a lot of people were not, and they had to wait, and then they waited, and then they're like, well, I don't even know who I am, and everyone says to be authentic. And so I feel like you asked to be you to help people so you're right and then you have this amazing podcast, which, I got to be honest, is amazing. And it's like, but it's mid it's called Midlife Makeover. Correct? Wendy Valentine 19:51  Yep, The Midlife Makeover Show.Lesley Logan 19:53  Yes. Okay, so let's talk about like, do you feel like you do what you do? Do you feel like you'll ever run out of topics to talk about when it comes to midlife? Like, what are you and then, and then also turn it into a book. So let's go into, like, how you've, like, really made this whole thing happen.Wendy Valentine 20:10  You know, what I love about my niche is that there's so much going on in midlife. I mean, like, if I had to talk about one topic every day, oh, my God, I could not stand it. I mean, yesterday I interviewed a lady where, like, it was about grief. She lost her daughter. Daughter was 17 years old when she died. The day before, I got to talk about hormones and menopause, and then the day before that, I got to talk about divorce, like there's so, because there is so much going on. And I love, I love being the catalyst to help other people make their dreams come true. I love that I can provide that hope, whether it's with me or with a guest, or whether it's just simply, I mean, right, the best way we can teach others is by example. Like I don't, I don't fluff anything like you, what you see is what you get. Like, I didn't just say I did it or say that I'm gonna do it. Like, here you go, you know. And you know, I, what was I going to tell you? Oh, I did create the acronym for you. I have four little lessons to teach you today.Lesley Logan 21:16  Do you want to teach us now or do you want to put in the Be It Action Items?Wendy Valentine 21:20  I'm gonna teach it to you really quick. Lesley Logan 21:21  Okay, let's do it. Wendy Valentine 21:22  It's, it's the Be It, right? And this is what I just told you, that story, these are four little guide posts that you can follow so that you, too, can actually, no matter if it's a little tweak in your life or a big tweak, a big change, you can make it happen. So the B in Be It is become your own BFF like you have got to be so nice to yourself, and you have got to listen to that ticker tape of thoughts running across in your mind. And you've got to stop that ticker tape of thoughts and replace it with some really good, friendly thoughts. Because this right here, I'm pointing to my head with my large head of hair, this will either be your best friend or your worst critic, and you are the one that decides, not Instagram, not your mom, not your dad, not your partner, not your kids, it's you like that is the one thing that you have, not one, but one of the many things you have control over. And actually starting there, it's a ripple effect of everything else in your life. If you can get that under control, and yes, you can, you change your thoughts, you change your beliefs. We've all heard it before, but do we really apply it and really try it? So, yes, become your own BFF, just love the shit out of yourself. The E is envision. You've got to envision who you want to become, not the what it's great to, to, like, dream about things and RVs and (inaudible) right, but who do you want to become? Journal about it. Think about it. Take a walk and just imagine the woman that you would want to become and without limitation, right? The I is invite her in. You have got to literally, every single day, and this is exactly what I did, because my Aunt Annie said to me, when I was like in the down, down in the dumps, in depression, and I'm sitting on the couch when she goes, darling, you have always wanted to be an actress, so why don't you just start acting like the woman you want to become? And I was like, oh, I can do that. And I thought about that, right? Like we're all we're all brainwashed. We're all brainwashed into whoever we are, but we can brainwash ourselves into becoming whoever the hell we want to be. Lesley Logan 23:39  Yes, yes. Wendy Valentine 23:41  Yep. So I did. I was like, you know what? How, like you, imagine a drone flying over your head and observing you all day long. How is this woman, this powerful, amazing, gorgeous woman? How does she walk? How does she walk into a room? How does she talk? How does she eat? How does she sleep? How does she, what did she do when she first gets out of bed? Like, is she like, oh my god, I think I'm so grateful I'm alive. Thank you. Thank you. Observe her like and and be her like, literally when you put your shoes on, you put your slippers on or whatever, imagine that those are her shoes and that, and literally act like her, even if someone else is like, why she acting so funny? Just keep doing it.Wendy Valentine 24:26  Yeah, no. I mean, let them, let them wonder why you're acting so funny. Wendy Valentine 24:27  Yes, yes, exactly. Lesley Logan 24:28  They'll just wonder. They get to wonder. And if you want to go talk about it to people like, I thank God for my time in L.A., where I learned, like, all publicity is good. Like, there's no such thing as bad, you know. Let them talk on how weird you are.Wendy Valentine 24:45  (inaudible) Yeah. Finally, T is take action. I think you even say that in your intro about taking action, right? You have to, like, how do you get courage? By taking action. Like if you, if you had a jar, an empty jar, and I have an empty jar, how do you fill up your jar of courage? And how do I fill up mine? We each have to do that on our own. I cannot hand courage. It would be great, right? If like, here, here you go, Lesley, let me give you some courage. You have to do that your own. And you do that by taking action, even if you fall on your face, even if you fall on your face. I didn't know how to even drive an RV. I was like, oh my god. So you figure shit out, right? Like, leap of the net will appear. Like, leap you will figure this stuff out. And that's how you become so resilient and strong. And then it's the tiniest of things I don't know about you, it's like the tiniest of little accomplishments. You're like, that's right. I did that. Like, that's right. I just actually figured out how to dump the dumper on the survey (inaudible) things. I'm like, I did that. (inaudible) So don't forget to celebrate yourself.Lesley Logan 25:53  I believe, all of a sudden, I think like, that is where confidence comes in. Like, people think like confidence comes like, you have to wait for you, once you're confident, then you can do the thing. It's like, no, actually, you get confident by doing the thing. Like, I remember we bought our van, which is not even as big as an RV, we don't need a special license for it. It actually fits in parking spaces. I mean, it's the it's the longest and the tallest of the vehicles that you don't need another license for. And the first time we took it on we took we drove it. I had no problems driving out of the gas station. I had no problems. Like, once we were like, pointing the right direction, like, I'm like, I got this. But one time we were needing to go, and Brad was asleep, and I'm like, I have to hit reverse. There's no rear view mirror. Like, I gotta do this with this tall vehicle. I'm super long. I got a white like, I and it has a camera. It's like, just follow the camera. I'm like, I can't even it's like, this big, just the camera? What, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I hope it beeps. If someone's wrong, I like, what if there's a pole, you know, like one of the, so I like, literally, get out of the car, got out of the car and I do a walk around. I'm like, okay, there's no poles. So the worst thing that happens is that someone or something drives behind me while I'm doing this, and it's supposed to beep, and I'm gonna trust that, and now I come back anytime I want, like, but you I had to, I could not, Brad's telling me you can do this. Like you used to drive jeeps, like, you know what you're doing. Like, he's like, you can none of that confidence and courage being told at me helped me get the confidence, like actually reversing the car and doing it myself.Wendy Valentine 27:32  And sometimes it's the tiniest of things that just gives you a little boost. It's a little reminder that, yes, you can do this and keep going and keep going. Yeah, yeah.Lesley Logan 27:41  Okay, you published a book. Now, can we talk about it? I mean, it says, Women Waking Up: The Midlife Manifesto for Passion, Purpose, and Play. Women waking up. Also, I love the colors. It's like every beautiful shade of pink lipstick, like, yes, yes, yes.Wendy Valentine 28:00  I know, isn't she? It's my little baby. This is actually, like, this is the advanced copy. So it's not even a real copy. But yes, I know. It just went into preorder this week. Lesley Logan 28:10  When is it publishing for reals? Wendy Valentine 28:12  Um, it publishes, it comes out on 9-9. Lesley Logan 28:15  Okay. Wendy Valentine 28:16  9-9 is the time, but and you know what? Before I got into writing books and things like that, I didn't know, I was like, why is everyone why don't they do the preorder? Why? Because I don't get the book. I'll give you $500 worth of reasons (inaudible). Literally, right now, pre-order the book. Because here's the thing, you could if you wanted to, you can literally start making changes today, just with the bonuses that you get with the book. Let me tell you what the bonuses are. Lesley Logan 28:44  Tell us, tell us because this is going to come out before 9-9 so you all can take advantage of this. Wendy Valentine 28:48  Oh yeah. You get the Women Waking Up Playbook. It's like 100 plus pages. You can download them. They are cute, colorful and cute and wonderful. You get the Freedom At Midlife Meditations that go along with the book, just to elevate your mind and help you become your own best friend, right? You get the Map At Your Midlife Dream Workshop, your customizable digital vision board. Thank you very much. I love that thing. Love it. I love it. Love it. What else? A $200 voucher to my Freedom At Midlife Program, and my fave, the Women Waking Up Spotify playlist. Yeah, so that's it. You literally get all of that. Lesley Logan 29:30  Before I even read the book. I can change my life before. And then when I read it, I mean, like, reminding me all these amazing other things. Wendy Valentine 29:37  Yeah, I know. And by the time the book arrives, then you'll get to read the rest of the story and then be like, Yeah, I already did that. Check, check, check. Lesley Logan 29:44  Yeah. So you're just putting all these little drops of confidence into your bucket as you read it, and then you get more, oh, I love this. Wendy, we need more time with you. I need, we need to hang out. I'm not, I'm not kidding. Like, is your RV heading my way before it's too hot? Like, I would just like to know.Wendy Valentine 30:01  You know what? I was gonna go to Nevada, because I'm starting this book tour now, but now I'm going up towards Denver. (inaudible) Maybe when I come back.Lesley Logan 30:07  On the way back, on your way back, you can do it. There's a great book shop called Writer's Block. There's some really cute bookstores in Vegas that are, like, great for doing some sort of tour of some kind, I agree, yes. Or you can go to one of my friends' amazing shops, and they'll, they'll host you. So just let me know, because I'll help make it happen. Because there's women here who need you. Oh, my God, we have to take a brief break, and then we'll get all your links and how we can, like, totally like, stalk you and like, the kids call you, stan you, you know, like stalker fan in one, one moment. Lesley Logan 30:34  All right, Wendy Valentine, favorite place to hang out on the internet, where's the links to pre-order the book, like, where, where's give us everything.Wendy Valentine 30:53  Do all the things. Okay. Instagram, it's got to be my fav. And I do share some cool, fun stuff, right? Lesley Logan 30:57  You do. I love watching your life. You carry a dog with in a bag. Wendy Valentine 30:58  I have some valuable content, with fun stuff too. So yes, Wendy Valentine on Instagram, and probably the best hub is wendyvalentine.com and from there, I know a lot of people have freebies, but my freebies really are awesome. Lesley Logan 31:16  Yeah there's 100 page freebie. I'm just gonna tell you right now, you, above and beyond, lady. Wendy Valentine 31:22  Yeah, yeah. So click, there's a freebies tab. You can even take a superhero quiz on there. That's my fav. There's a book tab on there that is where you can get all of your bonuses when you pre-order the book. And the book is everywhere, Women Waking Up, it's Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Target. It's everywhere. And what else? Yeah, that's, that's it. And then, The Midlife Makeover Show, that's everywhere, where you listen to podcasts, even on YouTube, you can even watch the, you know, the playback of of me interviewing people in an RV.Lesley Logan 31:52  Yeah, yeah. You can listen. You can also watch the Be It Pod, you guys, we're on YouTube as well. You know, it's, I know, it's this fun thing. You do this thing for audio, and then people want the visual. So you we gotta do it all. Wendy Valentine 32:01  Give them the visual. Give them the visual. Lesley Logan 32:01  Okay, I love your acronym. So if you want that to be your Be It Action Item, we can replay that, that is totally fine. But if there's anything else we have to give these women that helps them ditch perfection, take that messy action, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps should they take, what else?Wendy Valentine 32:23  I would have to say, this is, I'm adopting this from Deepak Chopra, because I used to go to a lot of his retreats. And there was one thing he said to me, it's in his cute little accent, and he goes, you have to feel your way through life. I was like, what does that mean? I was like, feel my way through life, and we're so used to thinking everything through and probably overthinking, right? But ask yourself, no matter what it is that you're doing or thinking about doing, how does it feel to you? And most importantly, how does it feel to this new person, this new woman that you are creating in your life. How will it feel? Does that align with her? Does she like that? Does she not like it? And just enjoy. I mean, this, you get this tiny little we're like little blip of time on eternity in eternity, right? Like, just live it up in this little space and print in these parentheses. Just live it up and enjoy and stop overthinking. Just feel your way through life. Lesley Logan 33:25  I love that. And I actually really love him. He, I listened to him, remember, Oprah would actually release like, interviews on her like, podcast channel? And I listened to him talk about this time when he would go be a monk, right? Like his like, you know, go for like, I don't know, 30 days or something like that. And he the monk, his like, monk guide, was like, Oh, how was it walking through the jungle? And he's like, well, it hurt my feet. You know, it hurt my feet. And he and the guy goes, oh, well, when your foot is not on the ground, does it hurt? And he goes, No, I don't think so. He's like, well, then think about the other foot, right? Anyways, my husband is gonna love it. I have remembered that. Out of everything he said, I have remembered that so much because whenever my husband's like, oh, my knee hurts, I'm like, maybe you should think about your other knee. And I'm sure he's like.Wendy Valentine 33:26  Yeah or yeah, my arm hurts when I move it, like this, well stop moving it. Lesley Logan 33:35  What is your other arm, like, he like, heard something and I like, hit the other arm, and he's like, what are you do doing? I'm like, distracting you. It's from Dee it's from Deepak, fill the other one.Wendy Valentine 34:29  Refocusing, refocusing. You know? Lesley Logan 34:31  But I do agree. I think, like, you know, I know, I know the listeners, and I one of the reasons I want to have you on the show after I met you, is like, I know the women here will love listening to you, because we all came from this like time of overdoing overthinking. Have to map it all out. Has to has to feel like the right time, but not feel because we're not listening to our feelings, we're thinking our feelings and and so thank you for that. Be it actually, because I think we. Actually have to get into the feeling more, the actual feeling more, not the brain thinking feeling more. Wendy Valentine 35:04  Yeah, exactly. And especially since RVing, like, I'm on the no plan, plan like I don't. I used to plan everything in detail, and if I did not have that plan in place, I would not make a move. Now I'm like, I mean, 90 days is probably as much as I can plan, even though I like to dream and envision and things like that. Planning out too much does not leave room for miracles and spontaneity and the fun stuff. So don't forget to have fun and just enjoy, yeah.Lesley Logan 35:31  Yeah. Uh, I adore you. We'll have to run in, we'll run into each other someday, because I also love to get to we're gonna, we're gonna head down on our Summer Tour into Arizona, so maybe if you're still there, you know it's it's a little more than 90 days. So I'll ask you when it's closer, but you know, Wendy, thank you so much. Thank you for being you. Y'all go listen to her podcast. Go pre-order her book. Let us know. Tag Wendy. Tag the Be It Pod. Let us know what your favorite takeaway was. And by the way, I can't think of another episode you could send to like any woman over 40 right now that she will love. So do that, support the pod and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 36:13  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Yes, another long hiatus. But hopefully Matt and Joe made it worth it. They talk about the 2025 Summer Tour with a heavy emphasis on the tour-closing Gorge weekend. They go deep on just how meaningful that BTCS playthrough was, the concept of the Divergence Factor (and just how unique this band is!), and again debate the likelihood of the violin returning. It's a jam-packed (ha!) show, you won't want to miss this one!

Yes, another long hiatus. But hopefully Matt and Joe made it worth it. They talk about the 2025 Summer Tour with a heavy emphasis on the tour-closing Gorge weekend. They go deep on just how meaningful that BTCS playthrough was, the concept of the Divergence Factor (and just how unique this band is!), and again debate the likelihood of the violin returning. It's a jam-packed (ha!) show, you won't want to miss this one!

Anthony Benenati, founder of City Yoga and That's Not Yoga®, shares his personal evolution from his earliest experiences with yoga to developing a practice that meets each individual where they are. In this conversation, he explores breaking limiting ideas about yoga, uncovering its deeper meaning, and building genuine human connection through mindful movement. He also reflects on how curiosity, learning, and purposeful steps can lead to lasting change. This is a conversation about healing, empowerment, and finding a practice that truly serves you. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Anthony's journey into yoga and the pivotal moments that shaped his path.Breaking common stereotypes and misconceptions about yoga.Understanding the true purpose of yoga beyond the poses.How yoga fosters authentic community and connection.The power of desire, knowledge, and action in creating transformation.Episode References/Links:Anthony Benenati's Website - https://thatsnotyoga.comAnthony Benenati's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thatsnotyoga Tiny Habits: The Small Changes That Change Everything by BJ Fogg - https://a.co/d/3edLCLcGuest Bio:Anthony Benenati is the founder of City Yoga, The first Anusara yoga studio in California and That's Not Yoga® , a culmination of three decades of study and practice in the Hatha Yoga tradition. Anthony's philosophy is simple; fit the yoga to the student, not the student to the yoga. He believes that it isn't about the style of yoga you practice, rather, the effectiveness of that style for your body. Yoga practice should help you transform, not cause more suffering. Anthony draws from a deep knowledge of the different classical styles of modern yoga and other modalities to construct a path of healing and transformation for their student. Anthony has trained in Kundalini, Ashtanga, Iyengar, Anusara and Viniyoga. He specializes in Yoga Therapeutics and tailors the practice so your body uses its natural movements to heal itself from pain and suffering. He has taught globally and has trained thousands of students. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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If yoga is about anything, it's about setting meaningful boundaries.Lesley Logan 0:12  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:51  All right, Be It babe. I am so stoked for you to hear today's interview. Our guest today is actually a dear friend of Brad and mine, and he is a person we have quoted on the podcast before, and he's someone we said, we have to get him on the pod. And guess what? We did it. And also, I can't believe this is the first time he's on the pod. I feel like he'll be a regular conversation, because it's just really fun to hear him share his perspective, and he is an amazing yoga teacher. And this is as much of a yoga podcast as it's not a yoga podcast episode, because we talk a lot about what really is yoga, and what does it mean to have a yoga practice, and what is it trying to teach us? And if you think you know what yoga is I'm gonna challenge you to listen, because I think it's really easy for us to have been fed something that it's not and then not realize, like, the amazing benefits that it has. And so I'm not gonna say anymore, because this episode is just one of my favorite it's gonna go hands down and one I'll quote in the future. And I knew that when I brought him on, I just knew that we would have an amazing conversation, and this is hopefully going to entertain, educate and inspire you. So here is Anthony Benenati. Lesley Logan 2:09  All right, Be It babe, I'm really excited. This person is actually a dear friend, like I know I've said that about some guests, but usually they're a dear friend of like, a couple moments. This person I've known for like, 10 years, and Brad has known him much longer, he's been a regular in our lives. Anthony Benenati, you are one of the best yoga teachers I know, but also so much more than that. Can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at? Anthony Benenati 2:33  Well, first of all, thank you for having me on. What an honor. Who am I? Anthony Benenati, you said my name. I am, believe it or not, a yoga teacher, a professional yoga teacher. I've been doing this for 32 years now, which, when I tell people that I teach yoga, they they have immediate this vision of what that might be. Lesley Logan 2:56  Yes, you should be in white. Anthony Benenati 2:59  I should be in white or. Lesley Logan 3:02  With a glow. Anthony Benenati 3:04  It's not very serious or, right? Everybody has their assumptions of what yoga is, which, my job is to help educate and instruct on what the practice truly is versus what it has become. The practice that sort of everybody knows now, versus really, what it truly is and what its goal is.Lesley Logan 3:29  Yeah, I feel like we could also, like, talk about that for hours, because I had someone send me a reel of a guy on a Reformer with a, like, stationary bike in his hands and feet. And it was a joke. It was like an April Fool's joke. And he was like, okay, guys like, this class, we get cardio and core and like, he's holding the bike, he's it's obviously a joke. But like someone sent it to me, and I'm like, the fact that this is so hilarious that people who've never done Pilates before are sending this to me, tells me that what people think Pilates is has strayed far from what Pilates is. So I feel like I can understand that. And I find myself constantly educating people a little bit like, well, that yes, those are Pilates exercises and so, but it's not the inherent reality of it is. And so I feel like I understand that plight, that that journey you're on, in a little bit. Anthony Benenati 4:18  You and I have had this conversation many times before, because you're so close to the source of it, and and that's what I love about what you do, what you teach, and where I am, and what I teach, is that there's a lineage, and you're very close to the source, and the closer you are to the source, the more authentic the teaching, the further down the line you get disconnected from that core source. Then everything starts to get watered down and miscommunicated. Lots of stuff gets forgotten. Lesley Logan 4:55  Yeah, well, it's like the game of telephone, like, I mean, like when you play that game in school, like, you, the further it goes down the line. Anthony Benenati 5:03  The more warped it gets. Lesley Logan 5:04  Yes, yes. And it's funny, but also, like, that is the reality. Can we take a step back? Because, like, a yoga instructor of 32 years, that is a long time. And I think, like, there's not many of you. I mean, there's many of you, probably in India places, but like, there's not many of people who've had that many decades and and have studied the way that you have like, did you grow up like doing yoga? Did you want to be a yoga teacher?Anthony Benenati 5:32  No, this story is, is pretty remarkable. No, I did not grow up with yoga. In fact, I didn't really understand what yoga was until I was literally introduced to it after I moved here to L.A. So I've been in L.A. since 1991 before that, I was in the military. I was in the Air Force. And when I was in the Air Force, I was a competitive power lifter, and I played sports all my life. So my body was pretty wrecked in my 20s. I had a shoulder surgery and a knee surgery already, and I remember I was waiting tables, and I had met this girl, and I was taken by the way she sort of carried herself. She was she walked very upright, almost Royal. And I thought, you know, it's L.A., everyone's moving to LA to become an actress. And I thought, okay, this girl, right, she's like telling her family, I don't want your money, I'm moving to L.A. and I'm going to be an actress. So I asked her, and she laughed in my face, and she lifted up the back of her shirt, and she showed me a 13-inch scar on her spine. And she told me that when she was young, she had this incredible S curve in her back, and she was in a full body cast from her neck all the way down through her torso. And I said, oh, my God, that that sounds painful. And I said how do you move? You can't, I haven't seen you bend. She goes, I can't. The only thing I can bend is my hips. I can turn my hips, but I cannot bend my back. I said, well, what do you do for relief? And she said, I do yoga. And I was like, Well, explain what's that and how does that help you? And she said, I'd love to explain it, but I don't think I can. Why don't you just come to a class? So I did, and you know, me then, I was really big. I had all this muscle mass, right? And I went to my first class, and I could not finish, could not finish the class. It kicked my butt. And I was so, my ego got, got triggered. And one of the things that's important for me as a teacher now when I teach my students is that there is, yoga doesn't see things in good and bad. Yoga see thing, sees things in does it work or not? And at the time, ego served me, because it made me go back, and it made me go back and it made me go back. At the time, the reasons because I think I was going to get it, and that's fine for whatever, for whatever reason someone enters into the practice is fine, you're there. That's the important part. We can work on the why and the why always evolves as you get along through the practice. But for me, I tell people, ego brought me to yoga and it it kept me there.Lesley Logan 8:34  Yeah, I think, isn't it interesting, like, because I'll have I work with teachers, and they're like, oh, I don't want to work with people who want to lose weight. And I'm like, I, you don't have to promise them anything you can't do. But if, if that brought them into the space, I would much rather you a non like someone who's not going to manipulate or use them or lie to them to be the safe landing for them to find a movement practice that can help them love the body that they have, you know? So I'm not here to be I won't take you if you want to lose weight. I'll just say, here's the science of weight loss, here's how I can fit in and and here's how I don't, you know, but this is what we can do together and like building that trust. And if that's what brought them in, and that's what got them to keep coming at the beginning, but then they stay coming because of how it makes them feel, and then they become a person who doesn't worry about that, because they actually care more about how they feel than how that what the scale says. Like, to me, that's kind of like that same thing. Like, I think too often people are wanting to turn away that negative energy, that negative energy in air quotes, because that's not what something is. But really it's like, you can't just, you don't, we don't get to decide how people come to us. Anthony Benenati 9:48  Right. Lesley Logan 9:49  All we can do is like, kind of be a space for them to evolve and learn the what, what, what they wanted, what they're here, what we can teach them. Anthony Benenati 9:57  Yeah, I'm glad that you said that. I'm glad that you said that to create the space, because that's exactly what it is, isn't it? It's like we want to create a safe space for them to explore them, and not come in with this bunch of judgment that I'm putting on to them so that they feel uncomfortable. I want them to feel as comfortable as they can. Starting anything new is difficult. We all know that. Let's not make it harder. Lesley Logan 10:22  Yeah, yeah. I also like that you said there's like, there's not bad or good.Anthony Benenati 10:28  That's a radical, that's a radical idea for people. In the West, we are programmed this is good and this is bad. I can even hear, you probably hear this in your students' languages too. Oh, that's my bad side, or I have a bad leg, or I have a bad shoulder. And I'm careful with that, careful with the languaging. It's not bad. It may be injured, it may be weaker, it may be tighter, but that doesn't mean it's bad.Lesley Logan 10:55  Yeah. And I, well, I, there was a years ago, like years ago. I can remember where I was driving, but I can't remember the name of the podcast, I was in traffic on San Vicente trying to get to Wilson Boulevard, and I was listening this podcast, and they talked about how, like, we have to be mindful of how we talk about our body, because our body is listening. And they have done studies that, if you like, say, I gained weight, I'm someone who can't lose weight, like, I I'm fat. All this your bod, those people who say that they actually have seen that they produce fat cells, like, that's what they do, right? Versus like, they also, like, told people, like, oh, you had this knee surgery. And the person goes, oh, I had knee surgery, so my knee is better. They didn't have knee surgery. They literally didn't give it to them. They just pretended they put them under they had controls, don't worry there's other things, but. Anthony Benenati 11:42  The placebo effect. Lesley Logan 11:44  What you tell your body like really does matter and and I studied with BJ Fogg, who's the found who wrote Tiny Habits, and he's really the leading scientist on habits that everybody has been stealing from and, not stealing, it's the wrong word, they probably study with them, but at any rate, he said there's no such thing as a bad or good habit. Everything serves you. Every like the habits you don't like about yourself, if you don't like that you scroll on the internet. If you don't like that you binge-watch NetFlix that they'll all the habits we have serve us, they provide something because your brain actually doesn't want to be around anything that causes judgment or shame. So it, it's seeking, like, oh, like, maybe it's comfortable for you to it's soothing to just binge out and watch something you get you get to avoid the other thoughts you have, or with certainty, which we all are looking for and and so he said, If you so, you can't ever say I have a bad habit or I don't want to have good habits. They're just all habits. And then there might be habits you prefer and habits you'd like to get rid of. Anthony Benenati 12:42  Right. I think in the context of the yoga conversation, yoga would simply ask, do your habits serve you? And that's another way to say it, right, whether it's good or bad, is it serving you? Lesley Logan 12:54  Yes. Anthony Benenati 12:55  So maybe at the end of the night, you've had a really shitty night and you need a drink, and most people would go, oh, my God, you teach yoga. You don't drink, right? There's another stereotype. Lesley Logan 13:06  Yeah. Anthony Benenati 13:07  But does that drink serve you in that moment? Is it going to control you? Is it going to take over? No. May it take the edge off and allow you to process the things that you're going through? Sure. Are there other ways to process it? Yes. But not everybody can just be like, you know what, I'm super stressed, and I'm just going to sit and meditate. That's not that's not realistic. Lesley Logan 13:30  Yeah, yeah. Anthony Benenati 13:31  It's not realistic for somebody, you have to meet people where they are, yeah, yeah, and make the changes gradually. Lesley Logan 13:38  Well, I mean, do you have to meet yourself where you are? Anthony Benenati 13:41  Well, yes. True.Lesley Logan 13:44  That's a bigger, that's so huge. I just, you just mentioned something I thought it would be really good timing, like, since there is the stereotype of what yoga is, especially in the West, especially in big cities, oh, actually, even now, because the way things work in rural areas. It's just franchises so like so, what is yoga really?Anthony Benenati 14:08  Okay. How long is this podcast?Lesley Logan 14:11  We can have you back for another. We can split it up. Anthony Benenati 14:13  Part two. On its most basic level, yoga is a practice. It's been, well, the iteration that we know as yoga today has only been around a couple of 100 years prior to that, prior to the last 5000 years with yoga, yoga has been a ritual, a path, a practice to transcend the known or the physical, to transcend it to, instead of saying I am my body, yogis back then would say, I am not my body. And then they would use the practice to try and extricate themselves from their body. So, a free soul, you can think of it that way, the soul that inhabits me is limited by this physical boundary, and I'm going to use the yoga practice to liberate myself from this physical, literally, prison, is how they thought of it. But things evolved, and as things do over hundreds and thousands of years, consciousness changes, and societies evolve, and mindsets change, and even language changes. So yoga now has become a physical practice to help the body and the mind connect. So there's a saying that if you keep the body to cool the mind, most people, they start thinking a lot when they stop doing. And that's why a lot of people are just doing all the time, do, do, do, do, do, and there's no room for thinking. And then when they stop doing, all of these thoughts start coming up, and they don't know how to deal with them, so they just start doing again. Which is, I guess, a way of pushing things down so that you don't have to deal with it. Lesley Logan 16:05  Yeah, yeah. Anthony Benenati 16:06  Yoga gives us a invitation to try something else. Iit's a, it's an invitation to be like, how does my body work? And how does it work better? And not for the sake of the practice itself, but how is it going to help my life? Even if you do yoga every day, let's just say you do 30 minutes of yoga every day. There's 23 and a half other hours. What else are you going to do? Hopefully your yoga practice is serving that.Lesley Logan 16:37  Yeah, yeah. 30 minutes everyone is 2% of your day. If you want to do the math, it's 2% so if you can't give 2% of yourself to something that helps you become better, the other 98% like, I love that. I love the way that you described it. I think that it's really true. And I think it kind of like takes it away. Because I think people get caught up in the process of yoga, the poses, or the styles, and that's just all process which no one really, like, in the world of marketing guys, sells nothing. No one cares about the process. They care about the transformation, the the idea of like, you know, you said, like, breaking free of this limiting thing that would be like the thing, the promise. Let's go back. You, we kind of got, you got the ego kept you going to yoga. Why did you, like, did you know you wanted to be a teacher? Like, did you, I, because I had the same thing. I went to Pilates kicking and screaming, to be completely honest, and I thought it was a bullshit infomercial workout. And then I loved it, and then I kept going back, because I felt really good. And it wasn't till someone said I should be a teacher that I even thought about being a teacher. So how did you become a teacher? I mean, like, 32 years, take us back.Anthony Benenati 17:46  That's exactly, that's exactly, right, it was my teacher at the time that had told me. He told me after class. Now this was, you know, maybe a year, year and a half into starting with him. But he said, you know, because we've had multiple conversations, not just in the classroom but outside, we'd go and have tea or whatever. And he goes, have you ever thought about teaching yoga? And I said, absolutely not. I mean, why would I? Why would I do that? I barely know the practice. He says, I understand that, and I can get you more information, but I see something in you that I think will help other people. And I think what he saw, and after teaching a whole bunch of teacher trainees myself, the most effectual teacher is someone who understands how people get to the practice. And what I mean by that is if, for instance, if I grew up in the yoga tradition and my parents were teachers, and I had been doing yoga all my life, and I never really understood the struggle of a tight body, of not being able to do the poses, of not understanding the language, of having no connection to yoga, whatsoever. Then I couldn't offer that to anybody else coming into the practice, because I would, I, some of the teachers that I train who are super flexible, for instance, they never understand what it's like not to be so it's hard to have empathy for the student that is having a very difficult time doing the most basic movement. And I think empathy is such an important factor to be a great teacher, you have to be able to put yourself in their shoes. Lesley Logan 17:47  Yeah, yeah. Anthony Benenati 17:47  Or barefoot as it, in the yoga studio.Lesley Logan 17:47  Yeah, yeah. I agree. Like, I think, I think, you know, I used to be embarrassed by, like, how I thought so negatively about Pilates, and when I realized it was actually probably the way that made people trust to even try it out, like, I also thought it was bullshit. So, you know, I got it. And then the other thing, like, I do have one of those hypermobile bodies, but I fractured my tibial plateau right before I met and I remember, like, all this fear about, like, what that meant for my Pilates practice, what that meant for my weight training, my running, everything right? Was like, fear going on. And then I also realized in my own healing, how easy I was giving it to people with knee surgeries. Because I was just like, okay, like, don't move this in time thing and so I have an injury, I was like, oh, there's actually a lot of things they can do. There's like, so much like, and there's also so much they can't do, but like, you know, like, we don't have to, like, push them, but at the same token, like, we can challenge this body because it got injured for a reason. There was an imbalance, and that's why that happened.Anthony Benenati 18:11  Correct, correct. And we're here to address that imbalance, right? A lot of times, yoga is translated as union, which is a very simple, and it's not a direct translation. The root word of yoga is actually thousands of years old, and it's yuj, Y-U-J and it means to yoke. Now this is an old fashioned term. You know the yoke when they used to yoke the horse to the cart or the ox to the cart. Lesley Logan 21:02  I'm nodding, because I did do the Oregon Trail, and that is where I learned yoga. Anthony Benenati 21:06  Okay, there you go. So that's the image that I want people to have here, and it's very important, because what you have, so yoga, at that point, becomes an action. It's a verb. It's not just a noun. What is it? But what is it doing? It's joining. But what is it joining? It's joining two different things, right? The cart and the horse. Now, alone, these two things serve purposes, don't they? But if you connect them, then you can do incredible things that neither one of these things could do by themselves. So in the yoga practice, we say one and one never equals two. It always equals three, because there's you, there's the thing, and then there's the thing you guys are creating. So it's you and Brad as individuals, and it's your marriage, which is a living entity. And it has a life of its own. And if you don't feed and nourish that third thing, not only will it die, but then you're broken apart again.Lesley Logan 22:15  Yeah. Yeah. You should become a counselor as well.Anthony Benenati 22:18  What do you think after class is about? When people feel comfortable with you, they come after class and then they start telling you about deeper issues, right, things that not the body, but the why, the why that they're here. Why are they struggling? Why are they having a hard time? I was actually listening to one of your previous podcast this morning, as we were taking me and my wife were taking a walk, Ashley, around the lake here, and we were listening, and it was the client, or the person you had on that had stage four cancer. Lesley Logan 22:54  Oh, yeah. Anthony Benenati 22:55  And I remember you said something, and it was very astute. You said that. Well, you didn't know how many, and I looked it up, we have about 60,000 thoughts a day, and you said about 95% of them are negative, right? And it's true. It's like we have these same repetitive thoughts all throughout the day, and the majority of them, the vast majority of them, are negative or repeat from the day before and the day before and the day before. And at what point do you start addressing this and start changing the narrative? Yoga is the invitation to start learning that you can that there is an issue first and then the tools to change them. Lesley Logan 23:43  Yeah.Anthony Benenati 23:45  So I love yoga as a verb, as an action, not just a thing like we can name it, and you can't just name it and make it yo. You can't just put goats in the room and call it yoga. It's not. Lesley Logan 24:01  Yeah, I'm with you on that. I mean, like, because it's cute everyone and so don't at me. It is adorable, and if it gets people in, sure, but also, like, you're now paying attention to the goat, not you, which is like, another distraction that, you know, I think, like, I think, I think it's really easy, people want to distract themselves from all that's going on. Like, first of all, you've been a teacher since the 90s, so in L.A., which means use your studio was around during lots of things. Like, you know, I don't, I don't remember when, like, the riots were, if your studio is open, but then there was, like, 911 and. Anthony Benenati 24:46  The riots werre '92 so it was just after I got here, so I opened the studio in '99 so 911 happened for us, and that was a remarkable time. Obviously, the next, Gulf War happened, and lots of other things. And, you know, the studio became a community. It became a place for people to go, even if they just wanted to sit and be in the room, let alone practice. I remember the practice after 911 people just wanted to sit and gather and cry and talk and rage and not move. They didn't want to move their bodies. They just needed community. They felt so detached.Lesley Logan 25:24  Yeah. I mean, I wasn't any, I wasn't in a practice at the time, but I remember, because we were in California, so you're so removed, but you're not, you know? And so I can see how, like, your space can be that. And I think, like, it's so cool and also so big to have us to do a practice that can be so many things for people. It can be the community that they need, it could be the safe space that they share, and it can be a constant, like, it's there, no matter when things are good or when things are bad. And we don't have a lot of those things, right? Like, there's not there's not a lot of places or things you can do even when times are good and when times are bad, and I know you're gonna tell me good and bad, but like, you know, in the in the happier, joyful times versus, like, the sadder times.Anthony Benenati 26:09  Right, now we're in a really difficult time, and we've been here before. 2008 we were here the last time this particular President was in office. We were here. And we go through these cycles, and they're not unlike other cycles throughout the history of life, and we will have more. And it's not always positive, it's not always happy, it's not always on the incline. Sometimes it takes a dip. And you and I both know that that's really where you're tested. You're tested in the dips. You're never tested when things are great, and you're never going to change when things are comfortable either. Change only happens when you're uncomfortable.Lesley Logan 26:47  Yeah, it's really true. One of the my favorite things that you would bring up when we were in class is talking about, like, you know, you can't have love without hate, the equal opposite. And I was hoping you can, like, dive into that a little bit for us. Because I think, one, I actually think since these several moments of 2008 and 2016, and and now it's really easy for people to not see good and so it makes me go, like you guys, like you're seeing all the hate. Like, are you recognizing it's equal opposite. But I also, like, I think it's hard. I think people are always waiting for another shoe to drop, as opposed to, like, noticing when things are are also going well. But anyways, I wanted to know if you could, like, just share a little bit about that, because my listeners haven't heard that, and it was my favorite things. Like, Brad brought up your, like, Saturday morning classes today in a call with people, and he said, like, there'd be like, 50 people in this room, and you know, like you would often bring that up, and it was always around the same time that, like, something not great was going on. We all just felt it, whether it was in the city or the world. And like, you have to remind yourself of those things. Anthony Benenati 27:53  It ties into the whole good and bad thing, because it's a reframing of thought. Like, you have to really reframe this idea that even, even if it's something that you don't like, it's serving something. So it's a basic function of physics, like, things wouldn't exist if it didn't have an opposite, right? You wouldn't know joy if you didn't know pain, you wouldn't know laughter if you didn't know sadness, you wouldn't have anything to reference it to. So your capacity to love is directly related to your capacity to hate, to feeling these negative, quote, negative feelings versus these positive. They're there to balance each other out, and it's the idea is that it's your choice which one you want to feed. You remember Star Wars, right? Think about the force. The force is this, is this neutral thing, and it's how you choose to use it. They were all using the same force. But the lesson was, am I going to use this to help empower and further and engage, or am I going to use this for selfish and personal and destructive reasons? Same energy, how do you use it? So rather than wasting your time on whether something is good or bad or right and wrong, it really serves you to think, is this serving me? Because, like you said earlier, at some point in your life, it served you, whether it was to keep you safe when you were a child, for instance, maybe you were in a really bad home life, and you learned coping mechanisms. You learn, for instance, maybe how to shut it out, right, and how to go into your own cave, which is, which is very easy for me to do. If things get too much, I tend to remove myself and go back into this little cave. Well, you can't do that when you're in relationship. Yeah. Well, you certainly can't do that for very long, right? You need tools like, yes, I need to go take 10 or 30 minutes to myself, but I'll be back. It's that communication, to let that other person know I'm not leaving you. I'm not not communicating with you, but I do need to take care of myself. So it's changing, the languaging around this. So it helps me to think, for instance, this bad time that we're having right now, it's temporary. Now, temporary may mean years.Anthony Benenati 27:55  Yeah, I know I had a like, a thing, like, like, a little mantra card that's, everything, everything, everything is temporary. And I'm like, and temporary does not mean two seconds, two minutes, two weeks.Anthony Benenati 30:02  Exactly. There is no time limit on temporary, but it will end. Things always do. Things always change, but it was helpful to me to look at kind of life in that different way. I wasn't raised like that. I was raised as a Catholic, so it was always guilt and shame and right and wrong and very linear thinking, very black and white thinking, very dualistic, instead of this idea that maybe it's not so black and white, maybe there is the gray. And I think we're all learning that extremism on either end is not the path. So, far right or far left, we're not going to get anywhere because we're isolating. We have to find a way to start communicating again and finding common ground and stop making other the problem. Lesley Logan 31:41  Yeah, yeah. Anthony Benenati 31:43  That's my that's my I think that goes on and off the mat. Don't look at your body as a bad thing. Don't look at it as something that you need to conquer or change, or that somehow there's something wrong with you. How can I enhance myself? How can I make me who I am, and everything that I am that may not be somebody else, but very unique to me. How can I make myself even better, a better version of me, not, not somebody else. I don't have to be somebody else. I just have to be the best me I can be.Lesley Logan 32:18  Yeah. That makes me think of like, I interviewed a happiness strategist, and I was like, you know, I was like, this is interesting, because, like, like, can you be happy all the time? And she's like, well, of course not. She's like, like, she's like, she's like, but she said your ability to be happy is as directly related to how uncomfortable you can get, like, how comfortable withuncomfortable. You can get like, that's, can you like, what's your resilience? And she, you know, and I think, like, I think a lot of people have been outsourcing so long how they feel based on, like, what's going on out in the world, and not going back to like, how can I make myself the best version? Because we can affect the people around us more easily when you were talking about other it made me think you guys Google the Heineken commercial. It's quite long, but they literally took, like, people of opposite extremes and like, they took a guy who, like, voted against gay marriage, and then they took a lesbian and they put them in a room together, and they have to, like, build a desk, right? And like, and they, a table, or they build something. And the guy, like, this one guy is like, completely, I got this. I like, I can do these things, right? And she's like, and like, so they have to work together to build this thing. And like, each personal strengths have to do it, and then they have to sit down and have a beer. And at the end, the people who like when they interviewed them before they met the person they're building with, it would be like, I don't understand transgenders. I think they have to know rights, blah, blah, blah. And then they meet someone who's transgender, but they just built this desk together, and you watch this person go, well, let's have another drink and like, so it's really fascinating that, like, if we can actually stop, you know, being on the opposite sides, we can actually be together, and you get to know people, you're more likely to hear them and listen to them and realize we're kind of like what you think has been influenced by so much, by other people who are louder and you you actually love people who are around you more than you know, you know? And so I think that's what's so beautiful about a yoga class, or even Pilates classes, they can attract people from all sides of a spectrum and have a shared experience. And you know, because, and the more they get to know themselves, the more ideally, and this may be the idealist in me, like they think about caring for others, because they can, because once you've, once you've taken care of you, you actually have the capacity to actually care about other people.Anthony Benenati 34:45  Oxygen mask, baby. It's all about putting on your oxygen mask, right? You got to put yours on first. You can't help anybody else if you're passed out. But I like what you said there, too, because Yoga does want to meet people where they're at. I remember, I had this woman in class. She always sat up front and in the beginning of class, at that time, we would chant the sound of om in the beginning of class, just to settle the class and get things going. And she would never chant, and that's fine. You don't have to, right? It's again, everything's an invitation. But she did come up to me after class one day, and we had a conversation, and I asked her why, and she says, well, you know, I'm a devout Jew, and I feel like I'm sort of disrespecting my tradition if I'm doing something I don't understand. And I said, well, I'm so glad that you brought that up. First of all, yoga doesn't care what you believe. You can believe you know, Orange is God, and you can still practice. Yoga doesn't require a belief, it just requires a willingness. And I said, well, you're a devout Jew, so what are you comfortable saying? And she said, well, shalom. And I said, Well, what's in the middle of shalom? And she said om. And I said, exactly. So from that point on, we would chant om, and she would chant shalom, and she would just hold the om. It, for some reason, it gave her permission. It was totally fine with everybody else, and then she felt included. That was a wonderful story. Lesley Logan 36:19  I love that. I think also giving people permission, right? Like, I think that's what, you know, people can have permission to move their body, but also be in practice. Like, that's why it's called a yoga practice, and I think that's what it does so well, something that, like, I call it a Pilates practice, and there are a lot of people like me who call it practice, but there's also a lot of people who don't understand that, and they don't call it that, and they're like, I gotta get this. And it's like, no, what are you talking about, like, you're never gonna like, you don't get that. Like, it's your body. Your body's different every single day. Like, there are days like, at 6am I do Pilates, and at 8am I work out with you, and my body between those two hours is very different. And I'm like, whoa. I, what happened on my dog walk that this is no longer an option. I do, I do like that. Okay, I want to go into, because I think, like, you have had so many chapters in your yoga career, and what how you are, how you are teaching yoga now, is very different than what you did for the majority on your studio and things like that. Like we talk about some, be it till you see it moments and like, kind of like, what your what are you being till you see it, right now?Anthony Benenati 37:20  You're right. I did go through a lot when you when you have a studio for that long, you know, you go through a lot of changes, including me and my original partner, we split, and then there was that moment where you had to decide who's going to fight for this, who's going to get the studio, because we both wanted it, and that was that was all about desire. Do you really want this? And how bad do you want it? And then after that, there were other things that came up every time you're being tested. And you will be tested no matter how committed you think you are to whatever it is that you think you want, you're going to continue to be tested. And it just is a way to reaffirm, do I really want to be it? Do I really want to do this? For me now, you're right. It is different. My body is different. My practice is different, and not in a bad or a good way, just different. This is the different body than it was when it was in my late 20s. Being it now is, for me, is really being about being authentic, being authentic to the moment, being authentic to my students, but really being authentic to my own inner voice. And every time I get on the mat, the first thing I tell my students is, listen, listen to your body. It's going to tell you something different today than it did yesterday. If you come onto the mat with an agenda, most of the time, you're going to be disappointed, because you don't know that your body's ready to do those things that day, that particular day, maybe you need something completely different than you thought. We have to be open to that. And then the day I decided that my time of studio ownership was over, that was a tough one. That was a really hard day. But the moment I decided to make that shift, I felt so much more freedom. Yoga had changed, you know, it really had become corporate. At this point, it was being completely watered down. People were barely doing teacher trainings and leading yoga classes, and it just became too much of a struggle to do the business of yoga versus being the teacher. You know, when you own your own business, you never are not working. That's the thing. It's 24/7 right? You don't get to clock out and go home and forget about it. Lesley Logan 39:50  Yeah, there's a reason why I like, watch White Lotus. I'm like, because I'm not where I can't work and watch White Lotus like, this is me being awesome. That's how it serves me. Even if it, like, gives me a little stress and anxiety, I'm like, but I'm not working, so I get it, no, like, I mean, like, yeah, and then I I, I'm where I'm married to someone I work with. So it's never, it's never off. Yeah, but I, thank you for sharing that, because, I mean, like, I think a lot of people, there's an aspiration to start something or do something or own something. But as you said, you've evolved. Not only has yoga evolved, but you've evolved. Your body has changed. And I think sometimes we forget that as we evolve, we outgrow some roles, you know, and like, just like you outgrow clothes, like you outgrow, like you outgrow a role, and it's like owning a studio serves such a good purpose, like a good purpose at the time, like you had a partner and a family and, like all these things. And then it also got to a place where it's like all this is changing, and I have, too, you know, but that's so hard to like, because it's like a light switch. Anthony Benenati 40:58  Yeah. Well, you know, I had felt it, but not really paid attention to it. And you know how your body does, your body will jump in there and it'll call your attention. And I literally had my one and only panic attack at that moment. It was like, oh yeah, this is a sign you are not in a good place. This, this, this, it's time to get out. It's time this, this had run its course. And that was a hard decision to really give up the thing that you worked so hard to create. But it was also learning that that was separate from who I was, that we were not inextricably connected, that we were these individual things, and we did create a third thing, but that third thing was dying, and it was time to change into something else.Lesley Logan 41:46  Yeah, yeah. What are you most excited about right now?Anthony Benenati 41:51  Oh my gosh, we are empty nesters. That's the most, 25 years of being a parent.Lesley Logan 41:59  I had someone I just interviewed. She's like, I'm a bird launcher. She's like, I've launched all my birds. They're all birds. They're all launched. Like, the positive of that.Anthony Benenati 42:10  It is so true. We are so excited about this next chapter for us, which is freedom in a lot of different ways, right? I mean, you're never not the parent, but they don't need you every day anymore. They need you when they need you and and happy to be there when they do. Like this morning, my youngest called from college, and she stayed on the phone for over an hour. And she just needed feedback. She needed to connect. She didn't necessarily need a ton of advice. She just, you could feel that she needed connection. For now, for me, it really is about this next chapter. Your lives are a bunch of chapters, and at being, you know, 50, I'll be 58 this year. It's a very I know, right? Yeah, I can't believe it myself, but this idea now that I can make choices solely for me or solely for us as a couple and not oh my god, what are we going to do with the kids, and is this child going to come? Or are they not going to come, or are we going to do this all together, that we can make these choices for ourselves, I'm really excited about that. That's the personal aspect of it. Professionally, professionally, things have changed, you know, ever since covid, everybody went online, and which is great. It's a great way to connect to everybody, but I still feel the need to be in the classroom, yeah, and we do those in persons, and we do those yoga retreats, and we do those monthly workshops, just so that people can have that feeling of connection and community again. Lesley Logan 43:52  Yeah, I think that's why we do our tours, too. Like, I love being online, because I can impact people without having to travel as much. And also, like, I need to see bodies in three dimensions.Anthony Benenati 44:03  Right. How do you make an adjustment with you can't see and touch? Lesley Logan 44:06  No, I'm literally going so if I was there, I would hold your arms still. Imagine I'm like, is your child around? Can they grab your arms and hold them? Hold their hold their arms. Okay. Now go.Anthony Benenati 44:18  That's so good. Lesley Logan 44:19  You know, but like, I think, I think that's why, like, I like the idea of, like, really reframing what's good or bad. Because, like, I think it could be so easy, like, back before the pandemic, like, oh, online is terrible. You can't have those things. But we, Brad and I used to, like, call you just be on the phone. Because I was like, I can't handle the traffic. I can't but I want you. So just, just be on just be on speakerphone, and we'll mute ourselves, and we'll be, you know, but like, when the pandemic happened, I was like, oh, I love this, because now I can have access to the people, I don't live in the same town as you, and I, Brad and I still get to have that practice with you, and I think, but also, yeah, we miss, like, actual hugs and actually seeing people, and you have to be more intentional. But I think that that, I think then we are more intentional, you know, so that is also cool.Anthony Benenati 45:08  Yeah, we really mourned the day you guys left.Lesley Logan 45:12  When we moved from L.A. to Las Vegas was during the pandemic, and we didn't actually have a mourning, because nothing was actually happening in person, the more like it was a year and a half later when things opened back up and we were not part of the opening back up that was like, so it was a delayed mourning, a delayed grief for us. Okay, obviously, we're gonna all catch up, guys. We're gonna take a brief break, find out how people can find you, follow you, do yoga with you. Anthony Benenati 45:39  Great. Lesley Logan 45:40  All right, Anthony, where do you hang out? Like, are you on the Instagram? Or is there just a simpler way? How can people do yoga with you or learn more about what you're doing? Where do you where can they go? Anthony Benenati 45:52  Well, they can go to my website, which is, thatsnotyoga.com and of course, there's a story behind that, because that's a pretty bold statement, which was intentional. One of the misconceptions about yoga is that anything goes, right, and that is so far from the truth. If yoga is about anything, it's about setting meaningful boundaries. So if you take a bunch of energy and you narrow it, you're going to increase the flow of that energy. Just think of water. Take a lake. Narrow the boundaries. It becomes a river. Narrow the boundaries even more, becomes a raging river. So most people think that if you limit their choices, then you're limiting their freedom. But I call it the Cheesecake Factory theory. Walk into a Cheesecake Factory and you sit down, and they literally throw you down a book. And they're like, okay, what do you want? And you can have anything. The book is like, an inch thick. And I just get overloaded because there's too many choices. I much prefer to go to a restaurant where they just print the menu that day and there's six things on it, and you can have this, this or this, and I'm like, great, I'll have that. The narrowing of your choices actually gives you more freedom, because you're constantly saying no to a bunch of things while you're saying yes to a limited amount of things, right? Like being in marriage, you're saying yes to Brad and no to everybody else. It's this process that continues throughout your entire day, right? What am I letting in? What am I consciously keeping away? I love that understanding.Lesley Logan 47:42  I love that. So you guys just so you know, because he didn't say it, but I'm gonna say it for him. Brad and I can do yoga online with this man. You do it three times a week. I try to show up twice a week when I'm there. And Brad, we're getting him on the 8 am wake up call. We're working on. Do you remember? Do you remember when he used to do it 6 am? I think we have to remind him that he used to do 6 am yoga. Anthony Benenati 48:03  Absolutely. Lesley Logan 48:03  When the bed was further away from the studio was the the thing. So you guys can do that. You can find that on, on, thatsnot yoga.com. You kind of just gave us a Be It Action Item. But I just want to see like, if there's any other bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. Anthony Benenati 48:18  Okay. The the, the the triad, the triumvirate that we like to follow in the practice, is desire, knowledge, action. Those are my Be It moments. To break it down, you got to want to do something, then you have to learn how to do it, and then you do it, this whole idea of just do it, that's not going to work. Just doing something without knowing how to do it can cause you harm doing something and you don't have the real desire to do it, you're not going to put your best effort in. If you do those three things in that order, you can pretty much do whatever you want to do. You've got to want to do it. You got to learn how to do it, and then you simply have to do it, and you have to commit to doing it over and over and over again to create that meaningful change. Those are my action items. And the thing is, is, if you don't want to do it, don't do it. That's the thing. You're, exactly, more freedom. And that's whole, that's yoga's goal. Yoga just wants you to be more free. But that doesn't mean no boundaries. It means establishing meaningful boundaries, boundaries that are going to channel you in the direction you want to go. And guess what, people, you can always change your mind. You can always change your mind.Lesley Logan 49:48  I mean, that is like that needs to be on people's walls. Because I find like, you know, like, imagine if you never gave yourself permission to change your mind. You might, you might, the world might have lost a yoga teacher that day, because you would have had a panic attack and then a burnout, you know, like, you can change your mind on your schedule, you can change your mind on your goals. You can change your mind on lot of things, like, you know, and that is for the perfectionist, listening. That might be the hardest thing you learn.Anthony Benenati 50:14  I'm speaking to you, perfectionist.Lesley Logan 50:17  Yeah, oh my gosh, Anthony, obviously I could talk to you for hours. And clearly Brad is like itching to walk in this room, you guys, so we gotta let him in so you can say hi to his friend, but thank you for being here, and thank you for just sharing so much of your wisdom. I continue to learn from you. Always. I can't wait to learn more. Someday we're gonna do a joint Pilates, yoga. That is my dream. That is my vision. Maybe on the Summer Tour. Maybe you'll be our L.A. event. So see, you guys, let us know what your favorite takeaways were. Let Anthony know in thatsnotyoga. Let the Be It Pod know and share this with a friend who needs to hear it, because that's how everyone wins. You know, we all can take away something from this, and I'd love to hear what yours are, and you know what to do, until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 51:02  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 51:41  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 51:46  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 51:50  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 51:58  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 52:01  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Lesley Logan 52:14  I'm interviewing Anthony. Anthony Benenati 52:15  Hi, Brad. Lesley Logan 52:16  Yeah, it's an interview right now. No, we're not done. You're just interrupting. We'll put this in the bloopers. He's come in twice, and I'm like, um. Anthony Benenati 52:24  What's up, buddy? Brad Crowell 52:26  I wanted to say hi. Lesley Logan 52:27  Yeah. Okay, alright, one second, let me get to those Be It Action Items. Okay. We'll talk.Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

We've got a really big show for you this week. We have had the pleasure of interviewing Slug (and Ant, but never both together) of Atmosphere a few times. Atmosphere never quite got bigger than The Beatles (or breast implants) but there is no denying that over the last 30 years they have proven themselves to be one of the most consistent and prolific independent hip-hop groups of all time. Both gentlemen display a deep musical knowledge in their work, and on today's program we chat with Slug about his "easter egg" references, his connection with the storied concert venue Red Rocks, wellness on tour, and of course Atmosphere's next album, Jestures. Though the album will not drop for a few weeks, we preview its unique development process. Ant and Slug "gamified" their production on this record, making one song for each letter of the alphabet, one at a time, A-Z. Inspired by this approach, DBRP hosts Demone Carter, David Ma and Nate LeBlanc recorded their longest intro segment ever, riffing on 26 rappers and their careers, also in alphabet (aerobics) order. I think it's pretty safe to say that you have never heard a podcast episode quite like this. Huge thanks to Slug for joining us, it was a real pleasure to speak with someone so thoughtful and self-deprecating while also being pretty darn successful in this niche of hip-hop that we we care about. Please catch Atmosphere on the Dank Days of Summer Tour with Cypress Hill, Lupe Fiasco and the Pharcyde, coming soon to a town near you. Dad Bod Rap Pod is bought to you by Stony Island Audio, the podcast network that values being "underground" for so long that the term loses all meaning.

We conclude our summer tour as we talk with insiders for the #eagles & #cowboys to get their take off the offseason, predict what they will do this season, fantasy prospects, + some fun trivia! Get ready for the 25' season with us! Thank you to our sponsors FastDraft Fantasy App, ProAm Belts, & Ultimate GM. #nfl #fantasyfootball #football #DallasCowboys #FlyEaglesFly

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Thanks for joining us to talk about the 2025 Summer Tour, we have a lot of thoughts. So much great music to talk about. And to vote on your top 4 versions of AC/DC Bag, please visit http://www.osirispod.com/Rushmore. We'll tackle that next week. Please give us a call at (484) 416-0488 and leave us your thoughts and questions! And give us a review wherever you listen to podcasts. The Helping Friendly Podcast is hosted and produced by Brian Brinkman, Megan Glionna, and RJ Bee. Original music by Amar Sastry. Brought to you by Osiris Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We talk with insiders for the #colts & #titans to get their take off the offseason, predict what they will do this season, fantasy prospects, + some fun trivia! Get ready for the 25' season with us! Thank you to our sponsors FastDraft Fantasy App, ProAm Belts, & Ultimate GM. #nfl #fantasyfootball #football #TitanUP #ForTheShoe

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Join us for our discussion of the incredible five nights of Phish we all just experienced. Thanks for listening! Please give us a call at (484) 416-0488 and leave us your thoughts and questions! And give us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.  The Helping Friendly Podcast is hosted and produced by Brian Brinkman, Megan Glionna, and RJ Bee. Original music by Amar Sastry. Brought to you by ⁠Osiris Media⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We talk with insiders for the #rams & #cardinals to get their take off the offseason, predict what they will do this season, fantasy prospects, + some fun trivia! Get ready for the 25' season with us! Thank you to our sponsors FastDraft Fantasy App, ProAm Belts, & Ultimate GM. #nfl #fantasyfootball #football #RamsHouse #BirdGang

Feeling worthy isn't about waiting for permission—it's about owning your story and making bold decisions. In this recap, Lesley and Brad revisit conversation with fine jewelry designer Margot McNaull, whose bespoke creations empower women to celebrate their milestones. Together, they explore redefining self-care, building unshakable confidence, and shifting your mindset to break free from old patterns. This episode will inspire you to create a life that feels as good as it looks.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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Is like, what can you do? Do you need to sit down and write down all the things that you know throughout realize you're worthy of asking for that pay raise? What is it going to take? But you can't ask other people for why you're worthy. You have to sit down and do some digging on yourself. Lesley Logan 0:16  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:59  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the worthwhile convo I had with Margot McNaull in our last episode. I mean, also like glitter, like sparkle, like legacy, worthiness, worthwhile in our last episode, if you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause us now and listen to that one, then come back and listen this one, or listen to this one as a cliff notes, and then see if you like what we like, and listen to that one. You're gonna want to listen to it that's pretty cool. Okay, today. Brad Crowell 1:22  Actually, it's quite interesting. Lesley Logan 1:24  Oh yeah, it's a fun it was a fun episode. Who would have thought that we would have that episode but we did. Now, people like, what is the episode? Anyways. So today is, so today is July 24th 2025 and it's International Self-Care Day.Brad Crowell 1:44  Kind of poignant topic. Lesley Logan 1:45  Yeah, it really is. This is something I literally every single morning when I go on a walk. I shouldn't say every single morning, because, like with this sinus infection, if you haven't heard it yet, it'll pick up on it a little bit. I just don't think I look amazing in the morning, nor do I sound great. So I haven't been like all my you need to go on a walk. But if there's something I preach about every single day, it is self-care. So this is your day. This is your holiday. Brad Crowell 2:09  To buy yourself a ring. What? Lesley Logan 2:11  Yeah, what? Brad Crowell 2:11  What? Oh, I mean, it's your day to self-care.Lesley Logan 2:14  Self-Care, International Self-Care Day is celebrated on July 24th and I would actually call a getting yourself a ring, just like a reward and or something worth doing. But self-care is actually free usually. It stresses the importance of self-care as a cornerstone of wellness. On this day, individuals throughout the world are encouraged to make self-care as part of their day everyday routines entered into a priority is a milestone and an opportunity to raise further awareness of the benefits and effectiveness of self management of health. That's what self-care is, self-management of health. I love that. That is so great as opposed to like self-care isn't selfish care. Self-care, it's literally self-management of your fucking health. Oh, my God, my mind is blown. Self-care has always been incredibly important, but especially now, as people realize they need to take care of themselves and put themselves first. This has made people talk about and it increased the interest of others to take control of their health and wellness by prioritizing themselves. Today, we urge you to practice self-care, even if all you do is take a walk. Self-care, the reason I say it's mostly free because most of the things you can do for self-care is prioritize your sleep, your water intake, how you fuel yourself, that you that drunk food? Are you giving yourself food that makes you feel really awesome, giving yourself food that makes you feel like shit, right, every time? And I'm not saying food is good or bad, like when we have the Anthony episode, like we talked about that, but like, there are foods that aren't serving you, whether or not they're considered healthy or unhealthy, I don't care, whether they're not serving you. So are you fueling yourself, right? Are you surrounding yourself with people who make you feel better about yourself? That's self-care, right? Like, literally say no to a friend, an Eeyore friend, just throwback from last week, like or not, that's self-care, right? So maybe you have to put your phone on Do Not Disturb that's self-care. You know, so tons of things that are self-care, that are free. Spa days, not self-care. That is just something you get to do because it feels good and you deserve it. But it, to me.Brad Crowell 2:14  I like that distinction, because I think most of I mean for me too, I've thought about like, oh, self-care, I gotta go do something for myself, which means spending money. And it doesn't necessarily have to be that way. Lesley Logan 4:13  No, going for a walk around the block is self-care. Brad Crowell 4:21  Or, you know when, when you're feeling that afternoon slump, go do a handstand for four seconds at the wall and get some blood flow to your head. Yeah, that's self-care. You know, getting some vitamin D by sitting in the sun in the morning, that's self-care. Yeah. So doesn't have to involve spending money. All right. Well, here's what we got coming up. Agency Mini from Profitable Pilates just closed in the last couple of days. What an amazing event. I'm not gonna lie. Lesley Logan 4:46  It's a really great people. Brad Crowell 4:48  Well, I like that we changed it and it was shorter.Lesley Logan 4:51  Yeah. I mean, I think for everyone, because the biggest problem we have with and this is, like, why you know at the Be It Till You See It podcast, we talk about, like, you get better every time you do something. And so Agency Mini. Brad Crowell 5:03  It's our 11th time doing it, 11th. Lesley Logan 5:05  Yeah. It evolved. Every single time it evolved. And then the last three or four times, we're like, we have it dialed in. We have it nailed down. Everything is good. But the one piece of feedback that we used to get that we could never solve was like, the overwhelm. And we'd always tell people, don't take in everything, like, just take in what you need. But the problem is, is people have FOMO and we are perfectionist and, like. Brad Crowell 5:26  Don't worry. Agency isn't like Agency Mini. Agency Mini was chaos and, like, a whirlwind, and Agency actually, you know? But like, we still have to say that. So we were like, this is, there's, it's not aligned.Lesley Logan 5:36  Yeah, it's not aligned. So because of our new tools, we have in Agency, because of our new app, all these different things. Yeah, we have an app. It made it easier for us to make Agency Mini a mini version of Agency, without the overwhelm. And it was super fun to help people and now we have a bunch of Agency members, and it's just super great. So I'm excited for you guys. Can't wait to work with you guys, and we literally leave tomorrow. Brad Crowell 5:57  We're going on tour y'all. Lesley Logan 5:59  Are we leaving today? No, we leave now. Yeah, we're leaving today. Brad Crowell 6:03  Oh yeah, we're leaving tonight. You're totally right. I'd have 25th as the first class but, but we actually drive out tonight. Lesley Logan 6:11  Clearly, we recorded this early. We're on the road. Brad Crowell 6:14  We're on the road. No, no, we're not on the road just yet, because this drops in the morning, we'll be leaving tonight.Lesley Logan 6:14  They could be listening to it at night. So if you're listening tonight, we're on the road. So anyway, opc.me/tours, where you can get tickets because it's not too late, some cities are too late, but it's not too late to sign up. You can, as long as there's room you can sign up. And also, the Calgary stop is a virtual stop so.Brad Crowell 6:36  There are two virtual workshops in Calgary go to opc.me/calgary for that.Lesley Logan 6:40  Yeah, but opc.me/tours such tours, all 15 cities. It's really going quite amazing. We have three cities in Canada. Of course, Vancouver is way sold out. At the time recording this, Kamloops only has space in the workshop and not a lot. And Calgary has room in all of its goodness. I'm including the virtual spots. We did limit how many people could be at the virtual as well. So just because it's virtual doesn't mean everyone can attend. We we kept it quiet, kept it small, so you have a great experience. So go to opc.me/tour. Want to see you. And then we come home, unpack and change out the suitcases because now, and clean out the van. Brad Crowell 7:14  Because we're home for like, a week and a half. Lesley Logan 7:16  Week and a half, and then we go to the U.K. yeah, we're going to the U.K. Brad Crowell 7:22  Yeah we're gonna go to Scotland. Lesley Logan 7:26  We're gonna leave my dad in Scotland. We're gonna head down into the into Britain, and we're going to teach in Essex and Leeds in England, I guess. Brad Crowell 7:29  I mean I guess we'll call it Britain but I think Great Britain is all of it, and England is.Lesley Logan 7:34  You know, it's really quite complicated. It's really annoying. Let's say England is correct. You're absolutely right. I got little stuck. I was watching the Hamilton King George Sing a Song, and I think I just got stuck. You know, I love. It's one of the best songs. It's too bad it's about him. Yes, you'll be back. So anyways, so anyways, we'll go down into England. Excuse me, somehow I'm supposed to drive on the opposite side of the road that I'm used to, and we'll see how that goes. Brad Crowell 7:59  You're gonna do great, babe. Lesley Logan 8:06  Do great. No one. No turns, please. So we're gonna go to Essex. We have a Tuesday and a Wednesday workshop and workout situation going on. So go by day passes or two-day pass, you'll save money if it's two-day pass, and then we're gonna go up to Leeds. That's our second time in Leeds. We only have a couple spots left there. And then we're gonna hit back up to Scotland, grab my dad for his like, I don't know, adventures he's going on himself, and fly home.Brad Crowell 8:35  There's a coffee shop in Leeds that I'm very excited.Lesley Logan 8:38  Oh, the guy who makes a seven minute long latte. Brad Crowell 8:38  Yes, the guy. Lesley Logan 8:41  Yeah, the guy. Brad Crowell 8:42  I really hope he's still there. Lesley Logan 8:44  I think he is. According to Claire, he still is. Brad Crowell 8:47  Okay, good. Well, I'm very excited, because that's gonna be awesome. Lesley Logan 8:50  It is. Okay, you guys. Is one of the best lattes. It is the smallest cup I have ever seen. Have espresso and milk in it, and it.Brad Crowell 8:50  It's just like scientific coffee. Lesley Logan 8:58  It took them so long. I was like, I need a cup of coffee. Brad Crowell 9:00  He made one, tasted it and dumped it and started over for me. I was like, what was wrong with that one? He's like, it was, it didn't it didn't settle. It wasn't the right flavor. It was burnt, so whatever the heck it was he was like, no, I'm not serving you this.Lesley Logan 9:14  We're not even doing a great job, because we don't even know the name of the place. But you know what? If you come to Leeds, Brad will take you. Brad Crowell 9:22  I'll take you. Lesley Logan 9:22  Okay, so opc.me/uk, to snag your spots there. Then we come home. Our besties are visiting us from Florida. Yeah, we're gonna unpack the cold weather clothes we took and put hot weather clothes back in a suitcase and be in Cambodia. Oh, my God, I can't wait for the humidity to be on this skin after all of the Summer Tour and and U.K. like, no offense, but like, I I live for humidity. Like I am. Everyone's like, I love a dry heat. You have no idea what you're talking about. Humid heat is way better for your skin, for the youthfulness, for your hair. Everything is better. So crowsnestretreats.com if you would like to have humidity on your skin and spend time with us in an epic place, see the temples, come to our house, do Pilates. Brad Crowell 10:06  Take a break from all the chaos. Lesley Logan 10:07  Figure out your self-care routine. I will help you with that. I will help you bring out your dream schedule. Anyways, before we get into the amazing episode with Margot, we have an audience question. Brad Crowell 10:18  We sure do, two questions, actually, from Caroline on IG, thank you, Caroline for asking. Number one is, hi, can you recommend a great pair of undies for Pilates or leggings? I read this before and forgot. I always notice a print when I get off my reformer. Lesley Logan 10:37  Yeah. Brad Crowell 10:37  Okay. Lesley Logan 10:38  Yeah. Brad Crowell 10:38  I can't, Caroline but, I know someone who can. Lesley Logan 10:42  Okay, we, remember when we got this question on YouTube. We're like, do we go live about this? I'm like, oh my God, what weirdos are gonna show up for the live? It's like, my favorite underwear for Pilates. So here's the thing. I like, EBY they're they have a type of of of underwear that is (inaudible). We have, right? We have a video.Brad Crowell 11:07  I didn't know how to find it, so I just went to YouTube and I searched Lesley Logan underwear, and the video comes up.Lesley Logan 11:13  Perfect, perfect, perfect. I wish they had millions of views. It probably doesn't, but anyways, so I like those because they're nice and thin under my leggings, so they don't leave a mark. Like when I'm walking around, you can't see my underwear, which is like a big deal to me. I don't know why we are obsessed with this, but I'm obsessed with people not seeing the outline of my underwear, probably from purity culture life. I have no idea. Anyways, the other reason I like it is if, ladies, you don't know this, but if your underwear covers your butt and then you put leggings on it, that is why you're losing your pants on stomach massage. So I like that also, you know the reason, another reason I like EBY is because I'm I am a sweater, and I don't really like when your like underwear doesn't keep you dry from and so otherwise, like your pants are wet, where your underwear is. I like my underwear keep me dry as much as possible, so that I have like, sweat, like on my thighs, but not in my crotch. So anyways, that's my favorite for that. Otherwise. Brad Crowell 12:12  What did you say it is? Lesley Logan 12:14  Think they're called EBY. Brad Crowell 12:15  And they're from. Lesley Logan 12:17  EBY underwear. Brad Crowell 12:18  Oh, that's the company. Lesley Logan 12:19  Yeah, yeah, it's EBY women seamless yeah, that's the one I like. Brad Crowell 12:24  All right, we're gonna put a link in the show notes for that.Lesley Logan 12:27  Yeah, yeah. So anyway, oh, they're having a sale. I should get some more. Brad Crowell 12:30  Thanks, Caroline. Lesley Logan 12:31  Thanks, Caroline. She had another question, though.Brad Crowell 12:34  Yes. Caroline had a second question. She said hey, do you have a shake plate that you recommend? Lesley Logan 12:40  I do. we'll put. Brad Crowell 12:41  I had a feeling,Lesley Logan 12:42  We'll put a link in the show notes, because I don't know the brand name, to be honest, but I love this thing I get on mine.Brad Crowell 12:51  It also wasn't, like, outrageously expensive. It wasn't nothing but it wasn't like a million dollars. Lesley Logan 12:51  It's like, it ranges from like, a little over 100 to about 150 and I think depends on the color or the time of year. But, like, honestly, it, it's something that, if I'm like, oh. Brad Crowell 13:08  Well, let's talk about what, what is a shake plate and why do you do it? Lesley Logan 13:12  Okay, so it kind of is a shake plate is kind of like a spin on the power plate. Power plate would be the brand and Power Plates I have experienced. Brad Crowell 13:19  Those big metal silver-looking ones that are, like, you know, two and a half feet wide. You can do a handstand on those. Lesley Logan 13:19  Oh, yeah, you can do some great stretches on those. My trainers at Equinox will, like, go here and do your pigeon stretch. And it, like, would really help with my running, help with my hips. I mean, I don't know all this. Here's thing, you guys, I don't know all the scientific facts are on it. But, like, I can say that Power Plates are really, really epic. And they can, like, turn your muscles on and off in such a way that it's like a full workout. In fact, in Vegas, there's a place called Vibe 28 that's literally workouts on a Power Plate. Brad Crowell 13:52  I didn't know that. Lesley Logan 13:52  And it's like they even do like, like a meditation class on them. So you like, just do different stretches on them. It's really quite cool. I will say they made me put a like, a band, a booty band, around my legs, and do squats on that thing. And I was like, oh my God, I thought I was in shape. No, no, no, no. It's like, what? It's like intense. And you that's, there's a reason why it's like only 28 minutes. You definitely don't want to work out longer than that. So it can be really effective but the reason I got one is because it can also be really good for lymphatic drainage, and it really good for balance and stability. And so I have my ankles are really hyper mobile, and my muscles around my knees have been really hard for me to, like turn on. And so I got one because you can just stand on it, and I swear, I swear it's doing something for lymphatic drainage, like my girlfriends and I just like, live by that. I have another girlfriend who, like, had some back stuff, and she just put it on, like, the lowest level and sat on it and her back felt better. So, like, that, that's amazing. So anyways, I get on mine, and I literally will, like, do Slack for 15 minutes, or I'll read a book. Yes, I can read a book while shaking. I'm also very tall. I could like my arms aren't shaking. The rest of me is. I play a video game on there. On my days where I don't want to work out, but I've got time on my hands, I get on there and I do it. Sometimes I just put my legs on it, and it feels really good. I have literally Googled multiple times, is standing on my shake plate at all beneficial? And the answer is yes. Now, of course, it's more beneficial if you do like a plank or a squat, but I play around my different foot positions, and my ankles are much more stable. My medial quad is actually turning on. I think it's been really fun for my lymphatic drainage around my center. So I love my shake plate. Big fan, yeah, total, yeah. So anyways, and it doesn't take a lot of space. One of my girlfriends lives in like, a tiny, like, studio apartment. My got one, and she's like, I do it twice a day, every day. So some of us now, like, do, like, we like, take pictures of ourselves send to each other, like, I'm on mine. Oh, I'm on mine. So now it's for like, a little club. Brad Crowell 16:00  That's funny. That's fun. I've even done it, too. I do enjoy it. It definitely first time you do it, you're gonna feel a little bit like, numb getting off of it afterwards. Don't turn it up that high your first time.Lesley Logan 16:12  There's programs and literally, start with the first program. And also a little side note that I would do, I was like, oh, every day I'm just gonna do the next program up. No, that is not how you get used to it. I recommend like doing program one for a few days and program two for a few days because I made my psoas so fucking sore, I had to stretch, so.Brad Crowell 16:12  Well, anyway, Caroline, we'll put that link in the show notes so you can check it out. Hey, look, if you have a question at all for anything, or about anything or whatever go to beitpod.com/questions, beitpod.com/questions and you can leave us a question or a win. So if you want to be featured on the FYFs for Friday's episodes.Lesley Logan 16:55  Your win could be that you bought yourself a shake plate and you did your first 15 minutes of self-care on it. Brad Crowell 17:01  All right. Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to talk to talk about Margot McNaull in just a minute. Brad Crowell 17:09  All right, welcome back. Let's talk about Margot McNaull. Margot is the founder of Stór by Margot, a bespoke fine jewelry company born from her own journey of designing her engagement ring in India. With no formal background in jewelry design, she turned her natural eye and personal experience into a thriving business helping women create meaningful, deeply personal pieces today, her work centers around empowering women to own their worth, often through designing their own legacy jewelry that tells their story, and that's what most of the episode was actually about. Was about worth and worthiness, and, you know why you would buy a ring for yourself, and conversations that happen in the home, you know, in a family, usually a married couple. You know, it was interesting. It was interesting. I, you know, I, I thought, I don't know. I've never really, I'm not really the guy that's out there trying to buy myself a ring, but if I wanted to buy a ring, I would probably save up the money and go buy the ring. But that's not how the conversation traditionally goes. Lesley Logan 18:14  No. I mean, also, like, even while the ring, that the beautiful ring I have, I literally told someone to tell you. Brad Crowell 18:20  I have no idea what you just said. Lesley Logan 18:24  My engagement ring that you got me, I made sure people in my life knew what I wanted, because we well, because you had said, don't talk to me about getting married. So I was like, well, how am I going to tell him about the ring I want if I don't can't talk about getting married. So I just made sure all of my friends who you knew knew which ring I wanted. Brad Crowell 18:40  I don't remember that that's how the story went.Lesley Logan 18:42  No. The story goes, you asked my friend for my ring size. He said, oh, I can tell you what ring she wants. Brad Crowell 18:46  Yes, because he had it from, like, a year before.Lesley Logan 18:48  Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was before, yeah. So anyways, I knew what I wanted. The point is, around here, we just buy that ourselves, the thing we want, but I do have tons of friends who won't put a ring on their their wedding ring finger, because they that's saving of her then. Or they, they they want something, but then they they compromise, or they don't have the it's a whole thing. And so she's just a big person like, buy the thing that you want and buy the ring that you want, and that because you're worthy of it, and not waiting for a partner or waiting for external people to tell other people outside of you, to tell you what what ring you should have, or what you're worth, or things like that. I think it's really cool. And I also she said she was observing that women often struggle to buy fine jewelry for themselves, not because of money, but because they don't feel like they're worthy of it. Because, like you said, I would just save up the money and go get it. A lot of people will save up the money and then feel bad about like that. They're not like, oh, I shouldn't have spent all that money on that thing this, like, like.Brad Crowell 19:47  I mean, I get that, you know. Like, I definitely understand that, you know, I saved up money for a pair of glasses that I was like, wow, these are really expensive, and I literally wear them every day now, and I'm like, proud of myself for doing it.Lesley Logan 19:59  Yeah, don't you feel you feel good. Brad Crowell 20:01  I like them. Lesley Logan 20:01  Yeah. I mean, I love our car. It feels really cool to be in that car. I feel very worthy of that car, you know, like, now we had to save up for it. We have to wait, like, it's it was an expense, but, like, I think.Brad Crowell 20:12  We waited 10 fucking years. Lesley Logan 20:14  I fucking did, yeah, I did, but I, I wanted to have her on because I actually feel like we have a lot of listeners who are that person who has, has saved up the money, or does have it and and maybe feels a little guilty, like, oh, I shouldn't be spending on me. It should be spent on the kids, or I should be I should be doing X, or should be doing y. And it's like, you know, if you saved up that money one time, you probably could do it again, and you could probably spend it on them then that time. But so she she reflects on her own deeper journey, and that she even like while she was running her business, she was going through her own journey of self-doubt and realizing of self-worth. And so she had to go into it and realize, where do I feel like how do I feel about my worth? And so I also thought that this is really cool, because oftentimes it doesn't have to do with the ring. If you don't feel worthy, it's going to translate in other areas of your life.Brad Crowell 21:03  Yeah. And had nothing to do with the ring, nothing to do with the ring. Well, you know, when she's talking about, I think the conclusion of the worthy conversation was, it was it was an interesting back and forth between you and her about your experience working in retail and jewelry and seeing how couples would come in, and obviously they influence each other, but not just couples, like, friends, and then the person who wanted the, the one was doing the shopping would be influenced by the friend, and maybe the thing like and the friend might not have self-worth. So then they're, you know, projecting their insecurity on the decision-making process. And it could talk someone out of doing something that they were trying to do for themselves. And so what I thought was neat about her thing was she said, you know, the only person that's gonna make you feel worthy is you, yeah, that's interesting, but it also makes me, you know, like, is there an exercise? How do we do that? How do we feel worthy? How do we help ourselves feel worthy? Lesley Logan 21:52  I think that's a really interesting question. I think, like, also part of it is going back to, like a Nikole Mitchell, you know, like it's like putting Post-Its around your your your house, like, I am worthy of liking things. I am worthy of having this. I am worthy of reaching the goals that I want to have. Like it doesn't have to be I'm worthy of the stuff I want to buy, put it on. I'm worthy of get seven hours of sleep. I'm worthy of 100 grams of protein. I'm worthy of saying no to people coming over on a Tuesday night. I'm worthy of my time. So start with there.Brad Crowell 22:49  So we're not having dinner with them? Just kidding. Lesley Logan 22:50  Yeah. But like, I think, I think it comes from actually saying it out loud and saying it around things you can't have cognitive dissonance around. So like, if buying yourself expensive sunglasses or car or whatever is feels a dissonance to you, you have stuff that you still have to unpack and work through, then start with something smaller. I'm worthy of eight glasses of water a day, right? I am worthy.Brad Crowell 23:18  Or I'm worthy of a pay raise. You know, like, this is actually, you know, one of the things that that I really that resonated a lot with me is a topic that I get the chance to talk about a lot, which is money, right, and money when, especially with Pilates instructors, there's this weird stigma that Pilates is expensive, so you must be taking advantage of people when you're teaching. And then we shame ourselves into being like, oh, you know, I only teach a few hours a week, you know, so it's not that much money I'm making. And we have this weird, upside down perspective of, you know, the industry that we're in, the people that we serve, what we're doing, how much time and money we invested in getting trained, all this stuff, and then we adopt this, this like, strange mindset around the income that we're making, yeah, and so I've had this really interesting opportunity over the last year to talk about money on a consistent basis through a webinar that I've been hosting. And, you know, unabashedly talk about the desire to get more money, to make more money, and and but not be weird about it, right? We're not out there, like, championing, like, money for the sake of money. That's not the point. One of the things that I've really enjoyed is, in this the webinar is actually future-casting. Right? So taking a moment closing our eyes and actually thinking down the road, right? When we talk about money in these webinars, I actually talk about something that's like, scarily, like, almost like, it feels scary to even be willing to dream about it. It's about doubling your money, doubling your income. So, like, let's say you're making $35,000 a year. Could you make $70,000 a year with Pilates, you know? And. And the answer is, yes, you could. But why? Why would you want to do that, right? And I think the glib and obvious answer is, because I can get more money. But that's not the point. The point is, what are you going to do with that money? And then what are we doing with that? Like, how is that helping us shift our life to be better and more enjoyable? Easier, like, we it puts us in a position to go do something else that we want to do.Lesley Logan 25:25  Yeah, I mean, like, because, if you I mean to go back to that, the worthiness of it's like, okay, I want to make $70,000 because, but why? So I want to be able to pay for my kid to go to summer camp. I want to be able to have money in savings. I want to be able to do X, Y and Z. I want to donate to this thing. I want to do this thing right. Okay, so then it's not that. Brad Crowell 25:48  Or even it could be I want to create a life for myself that allows me a breather, a break, so I don't have to be going 90 miles an hour.Lesley Logan 25:58  And I think if we were all to say I am worthy of having a life that gives me a break. What selfish is about that? So, like. Brad Crowell 26:06  In the same vein, you know, let's translate that over to buying things. Yeah, why do we buy things, right? Why do we buy a nice car? Why do we, you know, I don't know, put in a pool? Why do we buy fancy sunglasses that cost $500 you know, which seems like absurd, you can buy a same pair of sunglasses for $12. Why do we do that? Like, like, how do we do that and justify that without, you know, feeling like an asshole, right? Lesley Logan 26:33  Well, I think the interesting word there is justify. I don't think anyone I think that.Brad Crowell 26:37  Well, there's a story we tell ourselves in our head, right? And I think that it's like, if, especially if we don't feel worthy of it, then we're justified, then we're justified.Lesley Logan 26:45  Yeah. But if you feel worthy, you don't have to justify anything, because it's it goes to the person who goes, oh, it must be nice. And the response, the only response, to it must be nice is it really is. It is. Thank you. It is because we have to. We, that has been trained into people for years and years to keep you poor. That's what it is every time someone has told their kids that money doesn't grow on trees, putting the same as point earned, you know, you, like, the justification of things that is to keep youth playing small. If you play small, then there, then the rich can keep getting richer off of you playing small, of you not demanding the pay raise, of you not charging your actual worth. Because, by the way, for the Pilates instructors who are listening, I just had a huge talk on both an AR Agency office hours and the next day instead of eLevate and I was like, on a pedestal, I couldn't get off of it. And I was like, y'all have to have some courage and conviction. Like most of the problems that this goes for anyone you don't have to be a Pilates instructor, is you don't realize all the hours you haven't sat down and counted all the hours of all the time you spent learning what you do, train on what you do, practicing what you do, teaching what you do. And you're thinking, oh, I'm pricing something for the 55 minutes I'm teaching them. No, you're not. That price is based on your entire past building up to it. And by the way, the future you're giving them, that's what that session, that the present that they're paying for, it's for your expertise and what they get in the future. And I think that's where worthiness comes in, is like, what can you do? Do you need to sit down and write down all the things that you know throughout realize you're worthy of asking for that pay raise? What is it going to take? But you can't ask other people for why you're worthy. You have to sit down and do some digging on yourself. This has to come from inside you, and it has and and the external stuff and the ring or the car, whatever. That's later, because some people like material things and some people don't. According to my astrology signs, I like material things, and I don't disagree with that.Brad Crowell 28:51  I could have told you that the day I met you. Yeah, but, but honestly, that's the thing. Here's the thing, it's okay to like material things. It's okay. We're allowed to do it. I don't know, you know, we feel guilty about it because of, for me, it was the way I was raised. Right? Is, is that, you know, the the money mindset element of it, and so, like, buying something really expensive was always out of the question. It was never even considered, right, ever, but, but like with, with the ring, like, if you want, if it's like, something that is going that means something to you, it's kind of like we were talking about tattoos, right. Like, if, if there is a sentimental association with it, you know, and you it's a goal you achieved in your life. Like, we've, we've, we've a friend we've mentioned before, when she wins a case, she buys a purse, or she buys the glasses, or she buys the thing, and she says, you know? And here's ironically, ironically, her dad not shaming him, but his response is always like, you still spent the money to buy the thing. Lesley Logan 29:56  And also, she doesn't get a pay raise when she wins. Brad Crowell 29:56  Right. It's not like she's getting a pay raise. Lesley Logan 29:57  No, she get the same amount whether she wins or loses.Brad Crowell 30:01  She, like, she's like, when I when this case goes, when it when the case concludes, then I get to buy the thing, right. And I think it's great. They're like, they're like, milestones of her life, you know.Lesley Logan 30:12  Yeah, yeah. I really agree. And I just want to, like, go on this one thing when it comes to some of the material possessions, especially a piece of jewelry that is something that one you wearing every day, so it's a physical reminder of of why you thought you're worthy of that. And then two, and Margot talked about this, you do often give it to someone, like, we don't have children, but I imagine Ella will like all of my jewelry. If Meredith has a daughter, we'll have to figure it out. But like, I imagine that like our niece Ella, she likes to wear pretty princess stuff. I imagine she'll like my things.Brad Crowell 30:51  I'm sure she will. Well, thanks for going down that journey with us here. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into some Be It Action Items that you discussed with Margot McNaull. Brad Crowell 30:58  All right here let's talk about those Be It Action Items, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Margot McNaull? Don't give up on yourself, she said, right? To go through what you need to go through, to go through to be that strong, that's successful, that whatever you have to go through some pretty dark valleys, right? It's not just like it's just kind of inherently built into life. We all know this, right? But don't give up. Don't give up on yourself. She said, look at things in a way that other people maybe they don't want to. It's easier not to dig into these things, to look at these things, then you're gonna, you're gonna come out. And if you, if you, if you give up, right, you're gonna come out with a less powerful message, okay, let's put some actual context into what this vagueness that we're talking about here, don't give up on yourself, right? If you, you're allowed to fail, okay, but if you fail, let's keep going. So for example, maybe it is going to bed earlier or just getting up earlier, or maybe it is, you know, eating food, that is, you know, like, maybe you may always skip breakfast, and you're like, I want us to eat breakfast because I know it's going to jump start my metabolism, whatever, right, you know, like, like, okay, like, how do we how do we do this? How do we actually make this habit, create this habit? And we could talk about habit-building later, but, you know, it doesn't have to be this huge, epic goal. It can be these smaller things, and that's such a great place to start to build that, that habit. Lesley Logan 32:33  Yeah. And if you miss a day, it's not failure. You start, you drink, eat your breakfast later, start again. Celebrate that you thought about it. Brad Crowell 32:41  Yeah. What about you? Lesley Logan 32:42  Okay, so this is really cool. This made me think of Joanna, whose last name is escaping me, but she was in the second year the podcast was out, and she had to be an action about wearing the shoes, just like buy the shoes.Brad Crowell 32:55  Johanna White. Johanna White. Episode 171.Lesley Logan 33:00  Nailed it. She always said, buy the shoes and wear them, right? And so this particular Be It Action Item makes me think of that. She said, you can take your old jewelry and have it revamped and have it transformed and and sometimes that's like the permission that a lot of us need. It's like, oh, we're not buying a new thing because we have these old things, but we're not wearing the old things. Are we not as proud of old things? And you can actually just revamp the old things and now it's new again. And so if you have an old an old thing, you know, like, consider revamping it because you are worthy of it, yeah.Brad Crowell 33:35  Or maybe it was at a family heirloom that's like, you know, cool and amazing and sentimental, but not hip and fun and funky that you'd wear all the time. Maybe you could have something tweaked on that, and it would all sudden fit your personality today. So love that you have our permission to make changes to things.Lesley Logan 33:53  And walk around. I am worthy of, I'm worthy of, I'm worthy of, fill in the blank for yourself. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 33:58  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 33:59  Thank you so much for listening to our amazing podcast. Yes, I said our podcast is amazing because it fucking is. Brad Crowell 34:05  We're worthy of it being amazing. Lesley Logan 34:06  I'm so proud of it. This is episode 554, you guys. Holy mackerel. So do me a huge favor and share one of your favorite episodes with a friend who needs to hear it. It's how this podcast gets out. It means the world to me. It is the like a great gift to me and Brad. And a review goes a long way, because words of affirmation are my love language. So I've asked for two things. Thank you so much, asked for three, actually. And you know, just do one of them. You don't have to be an overachiever. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 34:36  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 34:38  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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In this recap of the conversation with Wendee Close, founder and CEO of Goals2Life, a personal development platform that helps people turn their dreams into achievable goals. Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell, dive into how burnout led Wendee to build a more values-aligned life and business, how planning can fuel purpose, and why taking bold, intentional action is the key to owning your next-level identity. If you've ever felt overwhelmed or stuck, this episode will help you get back on track one meaningful step at a time.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. 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It's ask yourself very clearly, like, why haven't I done this? What has been in the way? Is this actually something I still want to do? Can I actually do it and then set new measurable goals, set new milestones and make it happen. Lesley Logan 0:14  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:53  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the purposeful convo I had with Wendee Close in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to listen to that one first, then come back and listen to this one, or listen to this one and see if you agree with what we liked about that one. It's your choice. That's what's really important about the Be It Till You See It podcast, you choose. You choose how you want to listen. Today is July 17th. Brad Crowell 1:22  You choose very closely. Lesley Logan 1:23  Yeah, I hope you like that, Wendee. I'm sure she hasn't heard that before. It's like, my mom's last name growing up was Friesen, and like, she was super tall, so they would always go, how is the weather up there? Is it Friesen? Right, like, wow. I know kids are clever and cruel. Anyways, that's, I don't know why that popped in my head. Welcome to ADHD. So today is July 17th 2025 and it's National Tattoo Day. It was also another day, but obviously I have to pick this one, tattooing, the art of inserting pigment under the dermis layer of the skin. Brad Crowell 2:00  In case you didn't know. Lesley Logan 2:01  To create a decorative, symbolic or pictorial design or just a sticker on your body, permanent sticker on your body. Brad Crowell 2:01  Permanent sticker on your body. Lesley Logan 2:06  How I like to think of it. And on National Tattoo Day, July 17th, we set time aside to learn more about the tattooing process. It's a societal importance and history. Okay, here we go.Brad Crowell 2:17  I didn't know that. I'm in on societal importance. Lesley Logan 2:20  You guys, in case you don't understand the process of picking which day, it really is like what title speaks to us, and then we learn about the day as we read about it with you on air, and that someday could become problematic, but we'll edit it out then I guess you'll never know. So if you don't have a tattoo, you likely, or you're likely, to know someone who does. And if you've asked them how they knew at the time when they were getting inked whether they would still want that design on their skin years or decades later, you may have just gotten a peculiar look instead of an explanation. There is a certainly a fraternal connection between people who bear tattoos, a connection that those without ink can never really understand. We asked one correspondent to try address this phenomenon. He said, tattoos began as a ceremony, and they're still kind of like that. Once you're in an artist's needle, it's like a little it's a little like a religious experience. It's like the aha moment people talk about having in a business life. It illuminates something you didn't see before. I don't understand any of that. That doesn't resonate with me in any. Brad Crowell 3:15  Yeah, me neither. Lesley Logan 3:16  So first of all, I overthought my first tattoo, way too much. Brad Crowell 3:20  I mean, took me 15 years to get my first tattoo, because of the same thing. Lesley Logan 3:25  15 years from when you're 18 or like?Brad Crowell 3:29  Yeah, yeah, I didn't get one. So I guess that's not true. I wanted to get a tattoo in my teens. My parents said no, but I started designing it in my teens. Lesley Logan 3:38  Okay, okay. Brad Crowell 3:39  And then I didn't actually get one until 30 years old.Lesley Logan 3:45  Yeah, I got my first one on a blind date.Brad Crowell 3:48  You got one on a blind date? Lesley Logan 3:50  Yeah, we wanted something to do. Brad Crowell 3:52  Wow. Lesley Logan 3:53  I know. Brad Crowell 3:53  This is the first time I'm hearing this story, y'all. Do tell. Lesley Logan 3:57  Anyways. Brad Crowell 3:58  How'd that go? Lesley Logan 3:59  I never saw that person again. And I covered up that tattoo after I left my ex with the cherry blossoms that we then added on to, and then I just got others. Because once you get the first one, you kind of start to just get other ones and.Brad Crowell 4:21  Well, the hurdle has been left, you know, like, you're, you're, there's this weird mental block of like, I don't know if I want to keep that thing on my body forever. And then after, after you get your first one, you realize no one actually gives a shit. And then also you're like yeah, you know.Lesley Logan 4:38  We speaking on podcast or proponents for tattoos? Brad Crowell 4:39  Yeah, I'm not. I'm not that worried about it either. Because here's the other thing, you can also change the tattoo or you can cover the tattoo or you can remove the tattoo.Lesley Logan 4:50  Or you can remove it. Keith Davidson removed all of his tattoos. He is a complete blank slate. Google it right now. Brad Crowell 4:55  No way. Lesley Logan 4:56  Google it right now, because I thought for sure, it's AI and people were saying it's AI, and he has done actual interviews about it, and he there's no way it's makeup. He has, he spent $200,000 getting them all removed. And I thought that's all it costs to cover remove his entire body. Brad Crowell 5:12  I mean, he had a he had. Lesley Logan 5:13  His whole head to toe, like he was so covered. So anyways, our neighbor is shout out to Brieanna, Viva Vanish skincare, she actually removes tattoos. So like, to me, you could just remove it, right? Or you could cover it up, but you, you, you do overthink the first ones, and then you kind of just get them, and they just become part of you. Also, I've gotten, like, my dream catcher, my dream catcher tattoo. It is really funny. When I got it. Remember this, Brad, I got the dream catcher tattoo. It takes up my whole fucking arm. We came back from Cambodia.Brad Crowell 5:48  Upper arm, shoulder down to elbow. Lesley Logan 5:49  Yeah, shoulder to my elbow. We come back from Cambodia and, like, literally, no one notices. Like, no one notices. And I'm starting to think that like it, people don't like it, you know, and all this stuff. And so I'm, like, starting to make this through my head, and then someone who I've never met in person, they only know me through social media. I was at an event, and they're like, oh my god, is that a new tattoo? And I said, it is. Thank you. I just got it, I just got it right. And other people are like, that's new. And I'm like, yeah, there are people who, like, have known me for years, and I'm like, they're like, well, you're just, like, a person with tattoos. You just have tattoos. So anyways, all I had to say is, you know, I saw a reel or a meme. It was just like, tattoos are just stickers for adults. And, like, we like pretty things.Brad Crowell 6:32  I'm in on that. And I was looking up the Pete Davidson thing still, and I found something really interesting. He did an interview with Variety, why he decided to remove all of his tattoos, and apparently he's not removed every single one, but he's removed the majority. He said, on deciding to remove his tattoos, I used to be a drug addict and I was a sad person, and I felt ugly and that I needed to be covered up, and I didn't. And I don't think there's anything wrong with tattoos, but mine, when I look at them, I remember a sad person that was very unsure, so just removing them and starting fresh, because that's what I think works best for me with my brain. When I look at them in the mirror, I don't want the reminder of, oh yeah, you were a fucking drug addict. Like, that's why you have a Sponge Bob smoking a joint on your back. So good for him. Lesley Logan 7:18  Oh, I love that. But see, that's the thing. You can just remove it. So, you know.Brad Crowell 7:22  I mean, it's a process, but it can be removed. It's money and time, yeah. Lesley Logan 7:26  You know what? There's a lot of things you could spend your money on. I, don't get something you don't want. But also like. You. Brad Crowell 7:33  I like, I mean there's definitely sentimentality around the tattoos that that I have, have put thought into them. It hasn't been just like, on a whim, but also, too, the more like, as you get after you get your first one, the second one, the decision to get it was, like, much faster than the first one. Lesley Logan 7:52  Well, I also just want to say, like, you don't have to get them, and it's also fine if you get them and don't over, like, don't overthink it so much because it, because you kind of make it perfect and, like, you're trying to get all perfect. And it's, it's, like, it's, there's no judgment either way, like, you're gonna, life will go on. Brad Crowell 8:10  Well, we are very big proponents of ink and tattoos. We think they're really fun and cool. Lesley Logan 8:15  If it's part of your personality, like, and also, like, I don't, I don't think I remember my parents saying, you like, oh, you're gonna be so judged. You'll never get a job, like, that has never happened to me one time, and I have tattoos all over my hands and like, no one notices. Brad Crowell 8:17  Yeah, yeah. Lesley Logan 8:17  You know. So most of them are for me anyways, because when I have to look at myself in the mirror all the time, and I have to, like, look at what I do, like, or on a camera live all the time, and I'm like, I just want something to look at that's not just my family. Just my face. Like, I'm so tired of looking at my own face, I would like to see something else. So that was really a lot of it for me. Anyways. Brad Crowell 8:50  Anyways. Lesley Logan 8:52  Back to this podcast (inaudible) coming up. So, today we actually kick off Agency Mini 11. That's happening right now. Brad Crowell 9:01  Right now. Right now. If you'd have no idea what that means, and you were like, I need in on this, go to prfit.biz/mini. That's profit without the O dot biz slash mini. Lesley Logan 9:10  It's for Pilates instructors and fitness instructors who want to improve their business and attract clients that actually want to teach and make the money they want to make. So that sounds like you. You do want to sign up for this because the next one with our calendar, if it's possible being Q1 of next year.Brad Crowell 9:25  Yeah, we're, we've been literally, like, tentatively looking at February. Lesley Logan 9:25  Yeah and it could be the end of February. Brad Crowell 9:30  So it's not, we're not doing another one, we're not doing another one this year. And, and honestly, it's a killer program. So, and it's also not expensive, you should definitely do it.Lesley Logan 9:40  62.50 sign up today. Three days. First couple days of replays. There you go. All right. Then we are now really in the countdown of our Summer Tour the van has.Brad Crowell 9:52  We leave next week. Lesley Logan 9:54  I know the van has a new look. We have a huge tour going on. We have so many cities that are sold out. So many people are we're so excited to see in person for the first time, some we were seeing in person for the third or fourth time. We can't even wait. It's powered by Balanced Body, which means we actually bring some of the Contrology equipment with us. You can try it out. We have amazing prizes from them to give out, we're bringing Bayon. So it's opc.me/tour and then you can see all the different cities. And some of these cities, you are easily drivable. We have people who are coming to two cities, so you can do that too. Also, if you're having a little FOMO that we're not coming to a city anywhere in driving distance near you. And I just want to remind you, we are driving for several thousands of miles so you can drive a few hundred. Brad Crowell 10:38  Yeah, you can, it's okay, come join us. Lesley Logan 10:38  But it's like, if that's not an option, the Calgary event is a virtual event. And so it's in-person, of course, but there's virtual seats that are available, and they're limited. So you can get those at opc.me/tour, just pick the Calgary event. And then we come back.Brad Crowell 10:48  That's, I just want to call that again, if you weren't listening, we have virtual tickets for the summer tour for two workshops. Lesley Logan 10:51  Yeah, we've never done that before. Brad Crowell 10:56  Go to opc.me/calgary. To go directly to where you find them. Opc.me/calgary. Cool.Lesley Logan 11:05  Yeah. And then we come back rest up, unpack, repack, because we're going from summer to Scotland's fall, and we are going to be in the UK. We'll be in Leeds and in Essex. Brad Crowell 11:17  Yeah, we're running out of seats over there, y'all. It's exciting.Lesley Logan 11:19  Yeah, oh yeah. It's, well, at the time we're recording every time someone buys, it's like, this is, this stock is low. It's like, low it is. So Leeds only has a couple spots. Essex, we are offering day passes there, but every time someone buys a two-day pass, we run out of two-day passes. That's how that goes. So because it's a week during the week, because it's not nice, like, you can go to a whole workshop day during the weeks, plus, like, a vacation during the week, so go to opc.me/uk, I've had a ton of people going come do a tour in the UK. I'm like, I am, you guys, I'm coming in September. And we have a ton of our workshops that are happening at these locations. You can even do both locations. There's only like one workshop that overlaps, so opc.me/uk and then we'll come back at a couple weeks later, we go to Chicago for P.O.T., and then we go to Cambodia on our retreat. And it's not too late for you to sign up for our retreat for Cambodia, because we just bought our plane tickets.Brad Crowell 12:11  We just bought our plane tickets, and also we just had another person sign up, you know, so there's still time, absolutely, it's not like, you know, the plane tickets aren't getting overly crazy right now, which is nice. So pop in, come join us. Go to crows nest retreats.com. It's going to be a pretty small group this time, so I'll tell you (inaudible). Lesley Logan 12:11  If you don't like big crowds, it's the time to come, because I can't promise you it'll be a small group every time. In fact, I know 2026 has a ton of people, so you're gonna want to do this one because we'll have more time together. It's a lot of fun, and you can always come a day early or stay a day late.Brad Crowell 12:47  Well, we would encourage you to stay a day late, because we actually have two events that we can't include, quote-unquote, in the retreat. I mean, those events include going to see an elephant sanctuary, yeah. And then the second event is a waterfall excursion. And the reality is they're both just like, like, longer events that we couldn't fit into the flow of the actual retreat. Lesley Logan 13:08  Full day events, and also, like, especially the waterfall, we have to have a smaller group weather permitting, you know, all that stuff. So that's why they're extra so and on the extra days, and we're going to do them before we leave, so you should come, crowsnestretreats.com. Okay, we have a ton to talk about with Wendee, but we have an audience question.Brad Crowell 13:26  We sure do. @BrendaHornung1990 on YouTube asks, can I put a reformer in our garage? I'm in the southeast. So does it, so it does get hot in the summer southeast, probably like Georgia or Florida? I think I'd be more worried about the humidity. Lesley Logan 13:46  Good job, Brad, good job. Brad Crowell 13:48  Unless you've got a Contrology Reformer, which won't, you don't have to worry about the humidity as much. Yeah, there's no wood that's going to warp, right? Lesley Logan 13:55  Correct, because that's the thing. So, so the thing so one, I don't know which Reformer you're looking at that makes a difference. Two, so if you get a Balanced Body Reformer, that's wood, like a studio reformer, you have to worry about humidity for the wood. However, their springs have a coating on them, so you don't have to worry about the springs resting, whereas the Contrology, it's aluminum. And so you don't know. Lesley Logan 14:21  Or an Allegro 2. Lesley Logan 14:22  Yeah, yeah, yeah, you could do that. Brad Crowell 14:22  Allegro 2 is also aluminum. Lesley Logan 14:22  Yeah, so, uh, is it aluminum? I thought it's fiberglass. No, no, it's metal, I know, but is it alluminum, I don't think it's, it's white. Brad Crowell 14:34  Yeah, it's, it's aluminum. It's definitely not, it's not fiberglass. Lesley Logan 14:37  Really? We should (inaudible).Brad Crowell 14:37  It's definitely not fiberglass.Lesley Logan 14:37  Anyway.Brad Crowell 14:37  100% not fiberglass. Lesley Logan 14:37  Well, Brad is gonna, Brad is gonna, it's a prefab. I know that it's like the way they make it, anyways, the Contrology. I have friends who have them in Hawaii.Brad Crowell 14:50  Powder-coated aluminum. Lesley Logan 14:51  Okay, there you go. Brad was paying attention on the tour, not me. Anyways.Brad Crowell 14:57  I've also picked them up. I know what they freaking are. Lesley Logan 14:59  Yeah. So the Contrology, my friend has in Hawaii, and the frame is great. Nothing goes on there. Doesn't even rust, but the springs, well, you have to clean the springs, right? So. Brad Crowell 15:12  That's right. Yeah. I forgot about that. That's great. It's exactly the same, like, environment with humidity.Lesley Logan 15:18  I so I worry more about humidity anywhere. And then when it comes to, just, like, the hotness, I mean, obviously it's gonna pin like, are you gonna want to lay on a hot Reformer bed? Because it's gonna like, like, it's like, sitting on your car when the car's hot.Brad Crowell 15:34  Well, here's the thing, you can actually regulate the temperature inside your garage. Lesley Logan 15:37  Yeah, if you can, yeah, then I would do that. Brad Crowell 15:39  In Cambodia, we have these wall units for, like, air air conditioning. Lesley Logan 15:44  Yeah, I love this idea. We're helping you out, Brenda, so get a wall unit, and then I probably. Brad Crowell 15:49  Yeah, they're called a they're called, there's a specific term for them. What are they called? They're not a window unit. They're a wall unit. Oh, they call it a split, mini split. Lesley Logan 16:03  A mini split. Brad Crowell 16:03  Mini split. So that way, what it does is it actually takes the big air conditioning part of it that, like, you know, is loud and noisy, and it actually is outside, yeah, but then the inside is just a little wall.Lesley Logan 16:15  They're amazing. They're so quiet. The other thing I would just say is, like, I've never experienced this thing. I've never had to purchase one in my life. But a dehumidifier is something you can also purchase. I saw one in Brad's uncle's basement. I was like, what is this thing? He said, a dehumidifier. I'm like, I only know about humidifiers. Clearly, that's where I've lived in the world. So you can have a dehumidifier, and then that would make your equipment last a long time as well. Brad Crowell 16:39  That's true. Lesley Logan 16:40  Just something to note that, like Naugahyde and your leather straps, you know, those things can be affected by the weather. So if, again, if it's hot, cold, like, you're just gonna want to find a way to stabilize the environment a little bit so that it, you can have it for years, because that's all I want to make sure, like, we didn't leave my Reformer around the heat. I think my extra Reformers out in the in the garage for, like, in the shed for like, a year, but it was in a box protected. And then we're like, we got to get that in. That's probably not so great for it. So. Brad Crowell 17:07  Yeah, just because the the Naugahyde will eventually become brittle. Lesley Logan 17:10  I think the leather straps would also become, they would dry out as well because, like, they stay healthy because of the oils of the skin. So anyway.Brad Crowell 17:18  I just also found out that a mini split is, it's called a mini split because it's heating and cooling. Brad Crowell 17:24  Oh, well, there you go. Brenda. Show us the pictures of your garage with your new Reformer in it. Brad Crowell 17:24  You're amazing. Lesley Logan 17:24  You guys. If you want to ask us any questions, they don't have to be about Pilates, they can be about anything. You'll, you just have to go to beitpod.com/questions. You can also send us your wins. We can celebrate you. And you can hear about your wins on a day that you need to because they always happen to land on the day. You're like, my life isn't working. And then you hear a win you had, and you're like, Oh my God, it was, I just forgot.Brad Crowell 17:47  Stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 17:49  All right. Welcome back. Let's talk about Wendee Close. Wendee is the founder and CEO of Goals2Life, a personal development platform designed to help individuals create and achieve meaningful goals through detailed planning and execution. It's quite a comprehensive platform. It's actually kind of amazing. After 27 years in the B2C industry, she pivoted into the tech world to build a purpose driven SaaS platform aimed at transforming how people bring their aspirations to life. SaaS stands for software as a service. So the like a SaaS platform would be like Gmail or Google Calendar. That's a SaaS platform. In this case, she's making a tool that is software that'll help you bring your aspirations to life for real, known for her resourcefulness and her get it done attitude, Wendee now helps ground people break through burnout and overwhelm by aligning their goals with their values. And I think for her, that was, like, legit, because she was like, doing she and her husband had started a business that could she do it? Yes. Was she really good at it? Yes. Did it light her fire? No. Should she have been doing it? No, right. But she did it for decades, right? And after all that time, and they really did well, she still was like, I kind of don't like what I'm doing, yeah. And so that's what caused the shift to start this platform, you know, effectively starting a second career after her kids have flown the coop. She they're empty nesters now. So, you know, she's, she's definitely tackling a huge project. Lesley Logan 19:30  Bird launcher. Brad Crowell 19:30  She's a bird launcher. Lesley Logan 19:32  Yeah, I like, I know I said on the podcast, if not, I said her face. I am, like, immensely impressed that she has taken on this project because, like, it's so, like, I had no idea what starting OPC like, how much effort it is to have a platform like OPC. Like it is the amount of work we have to do on a daily basis for OPC is the amount of people who work on that site to keep everything. So like, when she was, when she talks, she's like, oh my God, that is the biggest project in the world. Like, I was just like, sitting there, from the experience of it, and she doesn't even see it as difficult. I mean, like, of course there's difficult times, there's hard days, but she always is like, excited for the challenge. And like, she takes it in, and then she figures out who she has to talk to to make it happen. And so anyways, one thing she said that I love, and I think it is why she can do what she's doing and take on this mountain of an amazing business, is when the vision is clear, you become it. So she is like, even though the project is still being built out and it works. She has tons of clients and tons of customers and tons of companies that work with it, but it was something that she's continuing to build and perfect and do. She isn't waiting for it to be ready to go out there and talk about it. She's talking about it because she's it.Brad Crowell 20:54  She's been talking about it, I mean, you know, before it was even ready to go. She understood what she was building, who it was going to help, and was out there sharing it with the world.Lesley Logan 21:04  I mean, if you haven't listened the episode, you have to, because it's truly a Be It Till You See It like it is, she is not waiting for the project to be ready for someone to deem the project ready for anything like that. She's like, I'm going to go out there, I'm going to talk about it and the questions I get and the things people need are going to help me make it even better. And that's what we are always trying to tell people to do inside of Agency as well. She said, when you believe in what you're doing, it becomes, it becomes easy to show up and say, this is who I am and this is what I'm doing. The vision is so strong, you live it. And I think, like, a lot of us, are sitting in the place where she was before in that B2C thing. Maybe you're not B2C but, like, was she good at it? Yes. Can she do it? Yes. It didn't light her up. And so I think a lot of people are struggling with, like, preaching, preaching out loud and and boasting about the thing they're doing because it's not the thing they really want to be doing. So they're not as excited. She is so excited about this. Every time I talk to her, I'm like, excited about what I do. Like, somehow, like, it reminds me this is why I do what I do.Brad Crowell 22:06  She lights everybody on fire. You know, I bet you, too, that all the things that she learned with her first business on, she managed a team. She, you know, worked with clients. She, you know, understood how to do every aspect of that business. There's like a direct translation for what she's doing now, even though it's a different project and a different product and a different goal, the skills she learned from the first one are absolutely setting her up to excel at this in What? What? So much faster, so much faster.Lesley Logan 22:42  Well, and also, like, every single even if the thing you want to do is something you were never trained to do, every skill that you've acquired along your journey is transferable. It's all. Brad Crowell 22:51  Story of my life. Lesley Logan 22:52  Yeah, it's really all so transferable. And there, most of the jobs that I well, the job that I currently have, there's, like, not like a degree in it. So, yeah, like, I think, like, we're all like, where's the checklist to go check? There isn't one. So get your vision clear and then talk about it. Don't be afraid to talk about it, because, just because people question it or and they might not be as excited as you, their questions help you deliver what you do better. You know? When we first started about OPC versus how we talk about it now, very different based on the questions we got from the way we talk about it, you know, like, so.Brad Crowell 23:28  Class starts at six. I think we even said that. I'm sure it was, like, new class on Tuesday. I really loved when she was talking about clarity and resourcefulness and her reminder about it, specifically around asking for help, right? She has no qualms to reach out to people and ask for help. She is very excited about what it is that she's doing, and because she knows what she's building, it gives her enthusiasm, right, and courage. And then when she goes and she asks someone for help, even if they say no, it doesn't matter. It doesn't deflate her enthusiasm. But because she has that, she can ask for help in a way that is compelling people actually want to help her. She said, every single day, I'm like, I don't know how to do the thing that I'm gonna do today. But what do I want to do? I want to impact lives. So she has a bigger goal. Like, for example, the conversation you were having was about going live on Instagram. She's like, I'm not a techie, you know, social media user, but I'm willing to learn this thing, even if I fail at it, if I fall flat on my face. Because if I can go live with someone today, and it's got to further my actual goal, which is impacting people's lives. And she said she just, she encourages everyone to just be, learn to be as resourceful as you can. Right? And she said, if you're honest and transparent about where you are and what you're trying to do, others will help you do it.Lesley Logan 25:03  Yeah, they will. They because they get excited. Because you're excited. People want to be part of the party. People want to be part of, that is how, for better or worse, people get involved in organizations like you know, they want it. I read the book Careless, careless people about Facebook and, oh, guys, it's a book worth, and if I could get her on, I would, but she's not doing any touring right now, but it's she talks about why she got involved with Facebook and why she was pushing for it to be around the world, because she want, she want to be part of the vision of connecting people, yeah, and helping people have all these and I know that's like the worst example, but also like getting so excited about your thing that people get excited to be part of your life, because they'll want to connect with the right people too, whether or not they can help you, like, Oh, I know, so and so. And then they're so excited about what you're doing when they talk about this to their friend, there's a trust transference, and all of a sudden you have the connections you need, you know. So no one gets to get their goals all done by themselves. It just doesn't happen that way. You want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together.Brad Crowell 26:10  Well, yes, very enthusiastically delivered there. Oh, you mean that old thing. Okay, dad. That's hilarious. All right, well, if you are looking for some, Be It Action Items, stick around, because we're going to dig into those when we come back. Brad Crowell 26:33  Okay, finally, let's dig into those Be It Action Items that we had with our conversation with Wendee Close. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo? I'm gonna go first, because she actually went down all four like, right away, which is pretty awesome.Lesley Logan 26:53  Whenever anyone does that, I'm like, oh, you took the assignment to the next level.Brad Crowell 26:58  She did. She did. She said, hey, here's what's bold, own your next level identity, right? She encourages you to ask, what would my future self do right now, today, in this instance, and then take that action from your future you, right? And she said, that's super bold, you know, like, know where you're going, know what you're trying to do, and then you know, if you're faced with a tough decision, would you, would you choose yourself make decision A or decision B, right? And then she said, executable, take small intentional steps every single day, small intentional steps, right? Breaking down big goals into micro movements. And then ask, what's one step that I can take today, right now, and then go do that step. In fact, that's like half of what Goals2Life is is literally the execution element of it, because what they help you do is map out your goals and then figure out how to do them, actually, how to bring them to life, right? Lesley Logan 27:56  Yeah. You just, that's where the name came from. Brad Crowell 28:00  Goals2Life. That's where the name came from. Intrinsic. Align your goals with your purpose. Align your goals with purpose. She said, What? Ask yourself, why does this even matter to me? Like, if you have a goal of, let's say, doing a 5k race, you know. Why does this matter to you? Why you know do the seven layers of why you know, what is it that you're actually trying to do here? And then, when your goals are tied to your values, your commitment will deepen. So you need to understand what your values are. And then we need to find goals that are going to tie it all together. So, intrinsic. Align your goals with your purpose, targeted, set clear, measurable milestones, replace vague hopes with tangible outcomes. Ask yourself, how will I measure the progress? We would suggest deadlines. Deadlines actually give yourself by this time I will do this thing, you know, or by this time I will, I will have this finished or this piece, piece of it accomplished. Because then it gives you targets. Lesley Logan 29:06  I just talked to Agency members about this. I said, if with, like, you know, we're halfway through the year, right? And it's like, if you reflect on your goals, you wanted to have done this year, what you want to have done by now, and you're like, oh my God, I didn't hit the name. It's like, well, it's, don't beat yourself up, it's ask yourself very clearly, like, why haven't I done this? What has been in the way? Is this actually something I still want to do? Can I actually do it and then set new measurable goals, set new milestones and make it happen? You know? So I believe in those I love a deadline. Brad Crowell 29:35  Love a deadline. Yeah. What about you?Lesley Logan 29:37  Okay, so she said, and this goes back to what I was just saying, so I'll just translate. If something's a priority, if it's a goal, it needs to be on your calendar. And that's where a lot of people make mistakes. They're like, Oh, I'm gonna do this thing, but they don't even set aside time, like in my calendar. If you look at my calendar, it'll say, write this thing, do this thing, call this person. It is in my calendar. So there's not like, Oh, here's my three things I wanna get done today. And. I have a wide open day. No, every single work day is like it's full because I have now, of course, I can move things, if something comes up or whatever, but then it gets moved because if it's in your calendar, you'll reschedule it. So that's what's really important. She said, if it's not in your calendar, it's not a priority. And she didn't mention time blocking. I'm big fan of time blocking. I actually talk a lot about how we teach Agency members how to time block so that they actually move the needle forward in their business. She also said this is really important. She said she was talking about her burnout. She said no amount of movement, water, nutrition or meditation can make up for the lack of sleep, so sleep should be right there at the very top. And I think that is the most important thing. It's something I always talk about. When you come on a retreat to Cambodia, we actually like put your dream schedule together, and the first thing you actually put in there is when do you go to bed, and when do you wake up? It's your dream schedule. It's not your current sleep schedule. It's like what you desire to have as a sleep schedule. And it's the most one of the most important things to do is work towards that, because you cannot, like, biohack your way out of sleep you didn't get. Maybe one day, maybe two days, but you can't do it 365 days. Not gonna happen.Brad Crowell 31:16  Wendee and I definitely connected on that, because both of us just didn't leave ourselves sleep time or permission to sleep. And so, you know, definitely impacted me through college for sure, you know. And even today, you know, it's still a decision to make sure that that is a priority, But yeah, I love it. I mean, you know, Wendee is one of the most magnetic people that you'll ever met. Like when she walks into a room, you know it, whether she meant you to know it or not, you know it. And her enthusiasm for and her vision for her business, for Goals2Life, is contagious. And, you know, I think the product is, it's really amazing, and helping people actually move forward, instead of feeling stuck. And, you know, I'm excited, so y'all should go check it out. Goals2Life. The number two, Goals2Life.com, we'll put that link in the show notes, for sure, yeah. But yeah, if you haven't gone back yet, go listen to Wendee. She's amazing. Yeah, go listen to why we love her so much. Lesley Logan 32:25  Okay, I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 32:25  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 32:25  Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. How are you going to use these tips in your life? We want to what your favorite takeaways are. We want to also know your questions and your wins. So beitpod.com/questions, I know that's confusing, because if you have a win, you're going to the questions, but I promise you, both columns are there. It's very easy to figure out and share this episode or Wendee's episode with a friend who needs to hear it, because that is how this podcast not only continues to grow, but also helps people be it till they see it. The more people around you that are doing that, the easier it is for you to be till you see it. It's really hard to be around a bunch of Eeyores, guys. So send them. Send them Wendee's. Send them Wendee's episode. And you know what to do. Brad Crowell 33:04  Time to be a Piglet, not not an Eeyore. Lesley Logan 33:06  Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 33:08  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 33:10  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 33:52  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 33:57  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 34:02  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 34:09  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 34:12  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Lesley Logan 34:26  Oh my God. What if we got merch that like, Be It Till You See It is like being like, I don't know. Brad Crowell 34:32  I don't know if Piglet's the right character, but. Lesley Logan 34:33  I don't know. I don't know if it is either. 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