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Megan Applegate spent twenty years in hospitality before becoming a recruiter, resume writer, and career coach. In this episode she and Lesley Logan dig into why finding work feels so different right now and what still gives people an edge in their career. Megan shares grounded strategies for standing out, rebuilding confidence after a setback, and getting noticed by the right people. Whether you love your job or are ready for a change, this conversation gives you real steps to feel ready for what is next. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. 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Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why the old resume playbook may no longer get you hired.Mapping job descriptions to prove you already qualify for the role.The old colleague trick that quietly dissolves imposter syndrome.Optimizing your LinkedIn so recruiters can actually find you.What you should never say when an interview gets uncomfortable.Episode References/Links:Gecko Hospitality – https://www.geckohospitality.comMegan Applegate on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/meganapplegateMegan Applegate on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/dreamjobaheadStrengthsFinder Test – https://high5test.com/cliftonstrengths-free/Career Blueprint Solutions - https://beitpod.com/careerblueprintsolutionEp 691 ft Clare Solly - https://beitpod.com/ep691Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsGuest Bio:Megan Applegate, Founder of Career Blueprint Solutions. After a powerhouse 20-year career in the hospitality industry, Megan did the unthinkable: she walked away from the familiar to build a recruiting and career development empire, with zero formal training and no financial safety net. Today, as the Founder of Career Blueprint Solutions, she uses that same "all-in" grit to help high-achievers navigate their own pivots. Known as the Recruiter Insider, she deconstructs the hiring process through her proprietary T.A.P. Protocol, moving professionals from "guessing" to "certainty" and helping them architect a legacy career that matches their true market value. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:57  All right, Be It babe. We're gonna get into it, because this episode is great. This is for those of you who are like, "Oh my god, I don't love my job, but I don't want to work for myself," or, "Shit, I'm out of a job and I need help." We have the resume queen, I literally called her a doula, she is so great. I learned so much. I don't even need a resume right now, or probably hopefully ever, I love what I do, but I know many of you do. No matter what your role is in this world, there are tips for you here. I don't care if you love where you're at, you're going to want to listen to these tips or write them down. They're so, so tangible, tactile, things you can actually do and check off and feel good about yourself. So, here is Megan Applegate.Lesley Logan 1:41  All right, Be It, babe. I'm really excited. We haven't had a topic like this in a long time, and it's definitely time to be talking about this topic. And we have the best guest I could even think about, because I was doing a lot of research on this one, and I'm really excited because Megan Applegate is here, and she is... well, I'm gonna let her tell you everything that she does. So, Megan, what do you rock at?Megan Applegate 2:00  Yeah, so thank you for having me, Lesley. I'm very excited to be here, and I'm one of those people that was a 20-year veteran in the hospitality industry, and thought I loved what I did for so long until I realized that I didn't. And when that happened, I didn't really know, and next I had something fall in my lap, and now I've turned into a recruiter, a resume writer, a career coach, and entrepreneur in the last seven years. So a huge pivot, huge turn, but I love what I do now. It's completely different. It's a beast in both ways, right? Good and bad, if there is a good or a bad, I don't know that there always is, but I love what I do.Lesley Logan 2:48  Oh, Megan, I agree. Nothing's ever as good or as bad as we think it's going to be, but there's always the good and the bad. But hold on, 20 years in hospitality? I mean, I don't even know how one person lasts in hospitality. That's a long time to deal with the people.Megan Applegate 3:01  Yeah, yeah, it is.Lesley Logan 3:04  Was it like, did you have to deprogram, or did you have to remind yourself you're not in hospitality anymore? How did you, you know what I mean? It's hard to make a big shift to shift careers.Megan Applegate 3:15  Yeah, I would say yes and no, only because part of what turned into a different career involves hospitality, so it made it a little bit easier when I was approached with the opportunity to get into the first business that I own and do, and then from there it came into a second one that I own on my own now. So, with that being said, I still actually love hospitality. I still love the people, and I know it so well. But now I get to recruit in it and help people find jobs in it. So it's almost like just taking what I already knew and learning a whole new sector of it, which I think is cool.Lesley Logan 3:56  Right, right, like going to a deeper level on that. So, instead of being, I guess, B to C, where you're working with the people in the hospitality, now you're working with the people who are going to work with the people.Megan Applegate 4:08  Correct. Yeah, on the recruiting side, it's both. It's finding the clients that need us to help them with the headhunting, finding these top talented professionals, and then also being the advocate and that career agent for the candidates, and understanding both sides of what that looks like. A lot of people only know one side and they don't know both, and so it's almost like an advantage to understand how to help people navigate that knowledge that you otherwise have, right? Because.Lesley Logan 4:41  The hirer is like, "We need these people who can do these things."Megan Applegate 4:44  Yeah.Lesley Logan 4:44  And then the people are like, "How come no one's looking at my resume? How come people don't see the greatness that I have?" And really, you're kind of a mediator slash negotiator slash doula.Megan Applegate 4:59  Yeah, it's been an interesting adventure. I'm seven years in deep with this change, and it's proven to move me in all kinds of different directions, which I'm excited to get into.Lesley Logan 5:13  Yeah, I would love to get to that. Before we dive into some stuff, I do want to chat about... seven years is a long time to look back at who you were and how that was. When you were leaving hospitality and coming into this, or maybe you fell into it, were there things that you had to work on with yourself to step into this? "I'm now the entrepreneur, now I'm not working for this company, I'm working for myself." How did you help yourself change that mentality?Megan Applegate 5:42  Yeah. Well, there's all kinds of emotions. I think there's so many we could talk about, right? It's very sticky. You're excited but scared. At some point I didn't trust myself. So, there was a lot of working on understanding that you just have to keep trying new things to see what will work, and to trust your expertise and what you're learning to do, and I think that was a big lesson for me. I think, as an entrepreneur, I just had this vibe of, like, now I get to be as successful as I want to be, right? I'm going to make so much money and all these things. Because when you're working for somebody, there's a cap on you, and so when you change into that mode of "I'm so passionate about what I do and my expertise," when you don't see that happen overnight, it can be a little daunting, you know, to be like, "Wow, hey, is it me? Am I doing something wrong? Can I not trust myself? Am I not..." I mean, there's so many things, because if you've never owned a business, how do you know, right? So, I think there's a lot of that that went into setting the ground rules of understanding you just have to take every day, every day, every day, and learn and learn and learn, and you will pivot and pivot and pivot, and I still do to this day. I think, "Can I do this differently? Should I do this differently?" I think I'm on my third version of the newest business I have, just because I keep learning.Lesley Logan 7:18  Yeah, I understand that a lot. I love that you share that. When you work at a place, you get to leave at the end of the shift or the day with your salary, going, "Okay, I did the things I was supposed to do on this day," or, "I'm behind on two things, okay." But when you are working for yourself, you really have to define what "done" is and what success is, because otherwise it can feel like it's too easy to go with vibes. I've been working for myself for so long, and I still have to remind myself to not go off vibes. My husband's like... I'm like, "Oh my god, things aren't going really well right now." He's like, "Let's look at the data, because vibes... no, we're not doing vibes right now. Data is always better." Lesley Logan 8:04  Okay. So, one of the reasons why I have you on is because I do feel like right now there's a lot of uncertainty when it comes to finding work. If people have a job, they're staying whether they like it or not, which always bothers me, because we shouldn't let employers treat us badly or be in a place that's not right for us. But there's a lot of uncertainty, and then there's people who are wanting to switch careers and look into something else, and this is Be It Till You See It. I wanted to pick your brain and talk a little bit about how can people who are seeking out work highlight themselves, or what should they be thinking about? I don't know, that's 17 questions, Megan. You are the expert here. I haven't had to fill out a resume in so long.Megan Applegate 8:47  Yeah, well, neither have a lot of the clients I do work with, truthfully. Things have changed and shifted so much lately in what looking for a new job is and what that strategy is. It used to be like if you had longevity, you had great companies on your resume, and you had a few connections, then it would be super simple. And now people come to me, and they're like, "The game has changed, what do I do?" Because it is, especially with AI and all of the platforms that are involved, and all this weaving in of... you can't just rely on what you've done in the past. Right now we're in a huge employee market where it's very competitive to look for a job. People are being flooded because you make it so easy to apply to jobs these days. You just hit the easy button, right?Lesley Logan 9:47  Yeah, I just heard this ad where you can almost pay for this extra thing so you're the first person, you're on the top of the pile. You remember how you used to be able to pay to be "A" on Southwest Airlines? Like, pay to get your resume to be the top of the pile on those online things. I was like, "Oh my god, this is just like... that's only the people who have the extra money can do that."Megan Applegate 10:09  Well, honestly, and I don't even know that I believe that, really knowing what I know about how that works. And so it's all about understanding that you have to be a problem solver, and you have to realize that if you can paint the picture... it's like your resume is a sales document. We are so in tune as humans to not understand what we are actually really good at, and no one seems to understand that they need to keep track of all of these wins. You get in a job and you just get so focused on what you're doing in one lane that we're never thinking two more steps or two more years down the road to be like, "Am I documenting? Do I know what I want to do next? Am I continually networking with people? What am I doing right now that is above what every other person is doing?" If you're not constantly thinking about that and understanding that you're creating your own brand, you just get stuck in the hole, and then five years later things have changed, and you're like, "Oh my god, what am I doing?" And it's very scary. You're thinking, "Well, I have all this experience, and I meet this job description that's online, but yet no one's calling me." That's where I have realized, in my experience, there's so many nuances around getting through the ATS system, getting by the recruiter who looks at your resume for 10 seconds, finally getting to the hiring manager, and then trying to convince them in that one-third of your resume of why they should call you. There's so many different things. I wish I had a magic bullet just to say "do this one thing and you'll be fine," but unfortunately it's a strategy. It's truly a game these days.Lesley Logan 12:04  And it's so... you're like... so on the podcast every Friday, we celebrate wins. I think they're really important. Most people won't send a win in until they've completed something, and I'm like, "A win is, you know, you got up today." Sometimes that's a win. But I love that you highlight: are you documenting things that you're doing or things that you've learned? Because I have found, since I don't have to build a resume, one of the things I have to do is submit to get CECs for things that I train people on. So I have to show that I've had education from these places, or to teach this workshop, "When did I learn that thing?" And if we're not taking time for just a little document, just some running note like an achievement or a compliment you got at work, I love this, because then, with the help of AI, you can really put your wins together in a nice, concise little paragraph. You could do that, but if you're not documenting, it's really hard to remember what you did two years ago. Especially when you're not happy at your job, you're forgetting that you had a win.Megan Applegate 12:59  Yeah, and it's not just always about what you do individually. It's about looking at what you're doing as a team. And people think, "Well, I can't take credit for that," and I'm like, "Why not?" They just get very down in the weeds of what should be on a resume, and it becomes this long laundry list of things that are not relevant, and I think that that is one of the biggest things is before you can build that, you have to know where you're going. I mean, who is your audience? Who are you talking to?Lesley Logan 13:33  So then do we have to change our resume for every single application?Megan Applegate 13:38  No, no, you don't. No. And honestly, a lot of people have that in their head that they have to. There's definitely things you can tweak within the resume, just keywords in general, if that fits more specifically to one thing versus another in your industry, if it's this job versus this job. But no, you shouldn't have to change it every time. You just need to have a point of view. You need to be somebody that solves problems, and you need to know who your audience is, and you need to know where you're going. If you don't know, then again, how can you put together your narrative of what problems do I even need to set to solve?Lesley Logan 14:29  Yeah, I agree. And I love this, because this episode's coming out after my girlfriend and I chatted about exiting a job, either on your terms or not on your terms, right? And so we had a really good chat about that, and this is such an even greater follow-up because ideally you're thinking about this before it's not on your terms, right? Ideally you're doing this while you have something else, because there's a lot more confidence while you're getting paid to go look for something else. I always say it's easier to get another job while you have a job. I guess I worry about some of my people who have that fake imposter syndrome, I call it fake because they are successful, they have done amazing things, and for whatever reason, they either lost the job that they were in, or their life changed and they had to take a pause in work, and now they're coming back into it. As you said, the game has changed. It's like when people realize the dating game has changed; now the resume game has changed. Is there a pep talk to give people? How do they know where they're going? How do we get them off the ground and go, "You are good, let's pull out these wins." Are there things that they can do?Megan Applegate 15:34  Yeah, I mean, I think that just understanding... I always tell people when I work with them, I'm like, go out on the internet and find... Well, first of all, before you even do that, what excites you? Let's just dive down a little bit further into, "This is what you do, but do you love every single part of this, or do we want to focus on what you truly let go and then you just succeed with? What motivates you? What are your strengths?" Finding that is number one, especially if you're thinking about pivoting. I think there's nothing wrong, I mean, I did it, and yes, it was from a 20-year career into entrepreneurship, but I work with a lot of people that will pivot into a completely different industry. And when we work on that, we start with that: what makes you tick, what would you love to do every day, and get them excited about that. Then once you kind of understand that, you can actually go out and start to truly find those jobs, find where those jobs are, look at those job descriptions, and map what you are really good at with what it's saying. I think that will a lot of times pull people out to be like, "Oh, okay, so I do have a lot more wins and what it takes to get a job." I also say find a colleague, find an old colleague, somebody that can remind you how great you are, because, like you mentioned, the imposter syndrome, that is a huge wall that people bump into all the time. I get comments about a resume that I redo for someone, and they're like, "Megan, are you sure this is even me? I feel like an imposter here," and I'm like, "Yeah, it is you. You just don't understand that it's okay." This is the one time that it's okay to vibe on yourself. Sometimes we don't see it because we're in it all the time, we're in the weeds of our own everyday life, and therefore because we live that, we don't see ourselves as an expert because we just assume everyone has the same kind of knowledge that we do. So I always tell people, find what's important, what you love, find somebody... most people have a BFF at work of some kind, right? Even if it was a couple jobs ago, ask them for coffee, ask them just to be like, "Hey, can you help me kind of energize and re-remember all that I did that was amazing," especially if you haven't written it down.Lesley Logan 18:27  I love this, because one, everybody wants to be helpful. People just want to be helpful, right? And you're not asking them for a job, you're actually asking them, like, "Hey, can we just go over that time we did some things? I'm struggling here." People want to be your cheerleader, and you're gonna give them this opportunity. I think this is a brilliant... I remember years ago, my husband and I were trying to apply for a Global Entry card, and they wanted your last 10 years of addresses. Of course, when you're apartment living, that could be 10 addresses. I remember Brad asking one of his roommates, "Hey, do you remember our address here?" And the guy's like, "I don't know, check eBay." And it was like, oh, hold on, there's this place that's holding all these addresses that I had things shipped to. But sometimes we just have to ask someone. The thing is, they're not in it.Megan Applegate 19:10  They're not stuck in your everyday life that you just live in and assume that everyone else knows what that looks like.Lesley Logan 19:20  Yeah, yeah. Do you think the internal barrier that people get stuck on is the imposter syndrome? Is it not believing in themselves? What is on the inside of people that makes them realize or think that they're not able to do this, to put themselves out there and get a job that they deserve?Megan Applegate 19:40  I think it's partly that, but I don't think it's fully that. I think most people just don't know these days what the strategy is, and to know that there's so much that they do that's probably already at that next level in the first place. So that's why I'm always saying go find some job descriptions. If you're a senior whatever, and you want to be a director, go find what that looks like, and then find where you have correlations to it. Because I think that once you can do that, it helps kind of boost that confidence to be like, "Oh yeah, you know, I can do that," or you kind of understand where your shortcomings are and you can work on, "Okay, so I need more leadership experience," or what have you, if I want to get to where you're going. But if we just kind of stay where we're comfortable... we always talk about we're comfortable, but what does that equal?Lesley Logan 20:44  Yeah.Megan Applegate 20:45  Right? It equals stagnant in the same.Lesley Logan 20:48  Yeah, yeah.Megan Applegate 20:49  So getting uncomfortable is where we need to be..Lesley Logan 20:51  Well, also, that's so funny that you said that. I would never have thought... that's like a total 'be it till you see it.' Look at the job that you'd want to have. What are they asking that that person has, and then you can recognize where you have it and where you don't. But also, there's that statistic that women won't apply unless they're 10 out of 10, and men will apply at a 4 out of 10, or whatever it is. But I love that, because you can really see, and that will help you highlight, "Oh, hold on," it might even jog your memory of the things that you've done and really pull it up there. I think that's a brilliant strategy that I would never have thought about, because it's like, "Oh, this is a job that I've done, so this is a job that I'm ready for." But a lot of people are thinking they have to get promoted before they can go somewhere else to get the job that they want, but you might be able to step into a role at a level that you want to be at because they actually need what you've already been doing.Megan Applegate 21:46  Yeah, and that's a huge part of the recruiting side that I've learned, too. If you want to be recruited for a promotion, and not only what you're doing taking you from one job to another that's the same, you have to have the right signal, if you kind of think about it that way. From a recruiting perspective, not necessarily just a resume where you're actually sending resumes out and that kind of thing, there's so many things that we can do from promoting your own brand, and part of that, especially with LinkedIn, is who... again, we go back to that audience. Who are you trying to signal? Are you signaling to anybody? Are you even visible? Can you get recruited, and if you can, does it point to where you want to go next, or are you stuck in just the laundry list of what you've done? Is it forward-thinking to that next role, or are you just in the past?Lesley Logan 22:49  Can we go this route? Because, first of all, LinkedIn is like a thing. I work for myself.Megan Applegate 22:56  You're like, I'm not on LinkedIn, I don't know. Lesley Logan 22:58  And everyone's like, "Lesley, you've got to be on LinkedIn, because all those women there would do your Pilates classes online because they're busy and amazing." And I'm like, I don't even know how to break through on LinkedIn. But one of my girlfriends, the job that she has now, which is like a dream role, which I can't say what it is, but if I did, everyone would be like, "How did she get that job?" It's because she turned her light on on her LinkedIn. She had it pointing towards what she wanted, not what she was at, and she got it. Someone was like, "Hey, you should apply for this," and then she fucking got it. I was like, "That's how it works?" I had no idea. I would have thought a thousand people were applying for that job, you know? And they might have been.Megan Applegate 23:46  Yeah. Well, but it's true. I mean, honestly, there's so many people that have a profile on LinkedIn, and they might have a picture, and they might have the basics, and that is it. And I'm like, "Why even bother, truthfully?" It's funny that you say that, because I'm the opposite. I am very, very strong on LinkedIn because of what I do, but yet, Instagram, I'm like, "Oh my god, what am I doing?"Lesley Logan 24:15  Honestly, Megan, I really should just learn how to be on LinkedIn, because that might be the safest, quietest, non-stressful place to be.Megan Applegate 24:24  It is. I will agree with that. I do see that sometimes people, if you're a little bit controversial in what you say in advice, some people will get on there. But honestly, those are the times where it just goes, "Oh my god, all of a sudden 15,000 people just saw this because of this one jerk."Lesley Logan 24:46  That's great.Megan Applegate 24:46  I'm pretty sure Instagram could do the same thing, but yeah, LinkedIn is huge, and people don't always see that. I know it's social media, not everyone loves it, especially the older generation, which a lot of times are the people that I work with that get to the point of, "I've been in my job for so long, and I'm just struggling to even get an interview, and what's going on?" So I work a lot with that age group, and they're like, "But I don't know how to be on LinkedIn, I don't know how to be online." I'm like, honestly, you don't have to be active all the time. You just have to have a profile that signals the right thing, that's completely optimized. It uses the right keywords for that job that you want. Have a background image that says your name and your contact information, have a headline that says what you want. Just teaching people how to understand what, as a recruiter, I'm looking for, and what pops up when I'm looking. So you can just do that. You don't have to Lesley Logan 25:53  be active that much because the optimization will do the work for you, because recruiters will find you. And as long as it doesn't look like you've been distant for seven years, it's been updated, it's not as much as like, "I have to post on Instagram almost daily if I want to stay relevant." I don't think you have to do that on LinkedIn to get a good job.Megan Applegate 26:13  No, you don't, because again, there's one side that's the recruiter piece of it that just tells us who you are. Maybe even just sharing things once in a while. You don't even have to have your own feed that says a lot. If you want to become a little bit more of an executive level, I would say posting some, just so that you could be a thought leader. Specifically, your expertise will help you even more, because it just shows you have a voice, a perspective, and you're active. A lot of times when I find somebody, they might look good, but then I realize after talking to them that it's from four or five years ago, and they haven't touched it since, and it's not even updated, right? I'm just like.Lesley Logan 27:03  Yeah, because you don't want to waste your time either. Okay, so you know people are... there's a lot of worry that AI is going to take all of our jobs, and I'm sure at some point it probably will. But is that something that people have to be worried about, or is it again just figuring out what they want to be doing, and then selling themselves above, or do they have to understand how to use it? What is the working job-seeking market right now? What's the misunderstanding about that, that if they just kind of understood it better, they would be able to be hireable or have the dream job that they're still looking for? Because I do think people might be worried that their dream job is gone.Megan Applegate 27:41  Right. Yeah, I mean, that's totally valid, and I agree with you. I can't say that won't happen in some cases. I don't see that happening to an extreme where we're all gonna all of a sudden be unemployed. I think for me, and what I try and help my clients with, is understanding AI, you have to treat it as your friend. You cannot think about it as a negative, because it just is what it is, right? It's here to stay, and if we just push against it, we are just pushing ourselves further down the line of, "I can't, I won't, it's terrible." We have to look at it like, what do you need to do to maybe upskill, so that you give yourself more variety of what you can do in your lane, right? And really, you might have to think about what does that look like. I'm not a prepper personally, that's a lot for me even to think about. But in this realm, in job searching, and in the strategy, and just not even just when you're out of a job, but in general, if we look at the whole of what should we be doing in our world of career advancement, even if we have a job, we have to always be thinking about where does my path lead next. Who can I connect with? Where can I build my brand? Where can I be an expert? Where can I upskill the skills or something I want to do, so that you're always putting yourself to have an option, right? The option, or multiple options, ultimately is the goal. Because when we don't, and all of a sudden shit happens and you get laid off, and you're just like, "Oh, hell, what am I doing?" If you would have put yourself in a position to be ready for that, even if it was a year from now, for people to find you, to have your resume updated, to be present on LinkedIn, to be networking, to have an idea of where you want to go, get in front of having some of those skills, then your life will be so much easier.Megan Applegate 30:00  I love, I agree. I mean, like, it's not, you don't have to be like the prep, or like, the world is gonna fall down, but also, like, having, having, I mean, that's what I mean, just like, have an idea of where you want to go, where you want to grow, and keeping that in your mind's eye, because also you don't want to be at a job that you don't like either, like, that's just gonna suck, and suck you dry. We've been talking a lot, like, to help, like, the employee out. I do want to, like, we do have people who, like, are employers, and I will say, like, recently we had a hire for a role, and we've had the same person for so long, and they went, they're like, "I'm going on maternity leave forever," and I'm like, "That's so nice for you. Okay, great, thanks for letting me know now." But it took, I will say, it took us so long to hire someone because everyone was using AI to answer everything. We love that you can use it, but we actually would like to know what your personality is like. We hire on personality around here, because sometimes you have to do different roles, like sometimes you have to step in and fill for someone. So great, but who are you? Do you fit with the family? What are some things that employers should be doing to have their light on correctly so that they're really attracting? Because that's hard. It was frustrating how many people... Are you using AI on the call right now with me? Are you literally? You're not even answering the question, you're reading the answer.Megan Applegate 31:30  Oh my gosh, yeah, that's hard. I have a lot of clients that started utilizing video more than anything else. And again, I know I could still be reading AI somewhere in this office, right? But we are making people do a lot more video interviews so that you cannot hide behind the phone and things like that. People can see you. We've had clients that are insisting that the candidate basically record themselves for 30 seconds to a minute so that they can send in a video that is not necessarily anything to do with the job, but like, "Who are you? Do you have a personality? Would you fit in? And why would you potentially want to work for us?" And I'll be honest, the candidates are pushing back. They're like, "Wait a second." And I get it a little bit, because we don't want anyone to think that someone's hiring on appearance, right? Because that's the danger zone.Lesley Logan 32:49  Yes, correct.Megan Applegate 32:50  But at the same time, you will eventually be in person with somebody if you're good at interviewing, and you shouldn't just hire somebody over the phone like that. I do see that's where things are going, where they're almost not giving a chance, they have to be in person, they have to show their personalities in order to be vetted, to even be accepted. And getting away... it's one thing to have the technical piece of it, you got to have these platforms, you got to know this, you got to know this. But I think gone are a lot of the predictive index personality tests that you take, and it just says whether you're a great score or not, which I'm just like, man, those suck, right? Why? But anyways, I think that people are going away from that and just trying to get a little bit more personal.Lesley Logan 33:55  Yeah. I love that. For a lot of the work that we've had to hire, sometimes it's just a project-based thing, if people won't get on a camera with us, it's like, "Well, I can't hire you, because how do I know you're the one doing it? How do I know you're not outsourcing it to something else?" I don't want just random people working with me; I want to be working with the person I'm working with. And so that has been an interesting thing, how many people are like, "Oh yeah..." and it's like, "Okay, then no." So, on the job descriptions, we'll do an interview, you have to answer me on camera these things, because we don't want to waste anyone's time. I don't want to waste time with, "Oh, fill this out." And then I will say, for us, we still do a StrengthsFinder test, but after we are pretty sure we're gonna hire them. Because we actually just want to know what are your top five strengths, just so we can fit. Especially if you're my assistant, you cannot have the same strengths as me, because it's not gonna work out.Megan Applegate 34:53  Yeah, no, and I think that's a great approach. One of the companies I work with actually utilizes that when we're looking for recruiters. They're like, make us do something similar, but it's based on the recruiter approach of what makes a good recruiter, right?Lesley Logan 35:15  Yeah.Megan Applegate 35:15  So it's not a break or make; it's like, "Here's how to manage this person.Lesley Logan 35:20  Yes.Megan Applegate 35:21  Based on their personalities.Lesley Logan 35:22  Yes.Megan Applegate 35:23  Based on whether they're more extrovert, or they're more systems-driven compliance, or are they just gonna do whatever they want." So I think that there's definitely value in that, as long as it's truly not a make or break. I have a client we're working with right now where they have to take the assessment first, and that will determine whether they even get their first interview.Lesley Logan 35:47  I think that's terrible, because I'm a terrible test taker, so that would make me very nervous to get past that to get to the interview. I think I would be better after I did the interview, once I knew you don't want to know the person, anyways. Megan Applegate 36:01  Hopefully there was so much to be said, you know. We go in a million different directions, but real quick, when you get to the actual interview side of this whole strategy here, I mean, there's so much to be said about personality, how you can connect with people, how you can make yourself memorable, how you can leave impressions, and people will make decisions on that over anything else.Lesley Logan 36:27  You are 100% correct. Lesley Logan 36:28  I'm definitely someone, I had to give myself a rule of 24 hours. I have to wait 24 hours because I would just get wooed by people. I need 24 hours because the thing that bothered me about them will come to me in 24 hours. But can we real quick, for people who are interviewing, who get nervous, who have sweaty palms... we already know that if you have a confident stance you're more likely to get the job, but also, are there things people should not say in an interview?Megan Applegate 37:01  The only thing I tell people not to say is just don't bad mouth the last employer. Don't place blame, don't say, "We didn't make this because of this person." Nobody wants to hear that, even if you have horror stories and you really want somebody to truly understand and feel for you about what you've been through with your last job. It's kind of a gimme, but you can't do anything like that. Everything has to be positive. And I think sometimes, especially if it's a bad situation, the less you say the better. People are so scared to go in and be like, "But I was fired," or, "Something happened," and I'm like, let them ask you about it, don't bring it up. And then when they do, you state a fact, and then hopefully you point the direction and you move past it. You don't state the fact and then give the laundry list of why. If they want to know, they'll keep asking, and you just have to keep being truthful, honest, transparent, and not placing blame. If you did something wrong, say it, but you are the only one that's seeing that fear there. If you can just be like, "I am gonna say what it is, and then we're just gonna move on," I think that helps a little bit.Lesley Logan 38:33  Yeah, because also it's not like the people who hire you haven't experienced either losing a job or exiting a job. They're human beings too, you know what I mean? They've had people that they love that they hired that got fired, these things happen. So I think that's about not letting it be, "Oh, let me over-explain this thing."Megan Applegate 38:55  It goes back to their resume too. People get really specific about numbers and details, and I'm like, "I need metric-driven information to make it seem like you've got solutions and you're solving problems and all this stuff," which is proven to help people with resumes. But they'll be like, "I don't know about 15% or was it 30%?" and I'm like, nobody will fact-check you, I promise. Don't overthink it. No one is going to be like, "I'm going to call and I'm going to find out if this is true or not." Don't lie—I don't mean that. Don't inflate where it's like, "Really? I question that." But it's more of a psychological impression. You just have to get out of your own way sometimes around that and meet me in the middle, is all I'm saying. Don't be too much this way, and don't be too much this way. You have to be in the middle.Lesley Logan 39:58  Megan, what are you most excited about right now?Megan Applegate 40:02  I am most excited about starting to potentially think about building my own team with the career coach side. I don't think I fully mentioned this before, but the first piece of what I do with recruiting is with Gecko Hospitality. It's a national, recruiting, hospitality-specific firm, and it's a franchise model, which is how I got into it. It was a little bit easier when I first started the business for North Carolina and Missouri. And then from that, four years in, came the baby of this second business, coming into the resume writing and the career coaching and that side of, "Oh my gosh, there's so much that people don't know, I need to help them." So that piece of it, I'm starting to get to the point where I'm ready to build a little bit of a team there. So that's exciting.Lesley Logan 41:01  That's so cool. I'm like, "Oh my god, I'm not even looking for a job, and I want help with my resume from you."Megan Applegate 41:10  I'm sure you went through this too years ago, of just like, "Okay, I can't handle this anymore," and recognizing that starting a business from the ground up, there's so many things to do. You have to know what you're good at and what you're not good at, and figure how to hire people, or at least get help with those things. It took me a long time to realize that; I was just like, "I can do it all." No, you can't.Lesley Logan 41:33  And also, you have to do it all sometimes so that you can hire the right people for it. But also, in order to grow, you've got to, unless you just like it where it's at. But if you want it to be more, you want to help more people, and I actually feel like we're at a place where you're going to have more people who are going to need help with their resumes of standing out. Because with the changes and the companies that are adopting AI, people are going to need to really be thinking about what other things they can highlight that they've done, because there's a ton of stuff that AI cannot do well, you know.Megan Applegate 42:09  Absolutely. They can put a well-structured sentence together, but what information do they have to be able to do that? And then you don't sound real, and that's a problem, like you said.Lesley Logan 42:25  I was watching some ads, and I was like, "AI wrote that," because no one talks like that. No one actually goes "however," and no one says "quippy" in everything that they say. This one girl on Instagram was like, "Oh, I love what you're saying," but you are reading a script that you ran through AI with your idea, and I think I would have just liked your raw idea, because I would have been able... you know what I mean? I would feel like I was talking to a girlfriend; I feel like I'm talking to a bot. Anyways, oh my gosh, well, I'm so excited for you. We're gonna take a brief break and find out how people can work with you and get their resume helped, and their career coaching and all that stuff, and then your Be It Action Items.Megan Applegate 42:56  Awesome.Lesley Logan 42:57  Okay, Megan, where do you hang out? If we've got people who are like, "I should start talking to her now, because I don't know where things are gonna be next year," where can they work with you?Megan Applegate 43:05  LinkedIn, as we talked about, is probably the best place to find me. I've got a couple different businesses, but just find me, Megan Applegate, on LinkedIn. My Instagram handle is @dreamjobahead, and my website is careerblueprintsolutions.com so, those are the three areas.Lesley Logan 43:22  I love it. I love it. We'll link everything below, you guys. This is definitely an episode I know people are going to send to friends, because everyone has a friend who is needing this help right now. You've given some really great strategies, actually. But we love to end with a bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted step people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us?Megan Applegate 43:40  I think we kind of talked about some of it, but if you want my four tips in terms of actually being ready for a job, I would say understand where you want to go, that is number one. Actually go out and figure out, "Okay, I've been in this industry, do I want to stay, and if I do, where do I want to go?" Always understand where that next promotion is. Once you figure that out, go out onto the internet, find those job descriptions, save them, find the key language, the KPIs, the keywords, whatever you want to call it, figure out what they're saying they need and the problems that they solved. Then go to LinkedIn and find two to three people on LinkedIn that have that job, look through their profile, and hopefully it's pretty complete, and figure out what they're doing. Then you have to go and update your resume and your LinkedIn profile to signal where people can find you so they'll call you for that next role.Lesley Logan 44:47  So doable. Like, actually doable, one step at a time. One step leads to the next step, you can't skip ahead, and then you're gonna turn your light on. Megan Applegate 44:56  Turn your light on, be visible. Absolutely, love that term. I'm gonna start utilizing that now.Lesley Logan 45:05  Is it Roxanne? "You don't have to turn your light on," that's the wrong song. There's another song. Brad will tell us what it is on the recap. Megan, you are a gem. I really do appreciate this, because I've had so many people come on and tell people, "Go and follow your dreams, follow your bliss," but some people, their bliss is working for companies and being in a role and doing the good work. This is the first time I've been able to really support them in actionable strategy, so I just want to say thank you for being you and being the blueprint career coach that you are. I feel so grateful. My loves, we already said it, but I'm gonna say it again: send this to a friend who needs to hear it. Leave a review for this podcast. Go check out Megan Applegate's website and her on LinkedIn, that's a great way to start your LinkedIn journey. Megan Applegate 45:54  Go find me and then copy what I did.Lesley Logan 45:56  Yeah, there you go. Sometimes that's the way to do it, right? It's already done, you can just follow along. If you have questions about this, feel free to let us know; I'll happily send them off to Megan. We'll connect you, but you guys, you don't have to sit there and wait for something to happen. You can actually start making changes before you're ready, and that is exactly what Being It Till You See It is. So, thank you so much, Megan. And until next time, everyone, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 46:22  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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The UV technology has been purchased, delivered, and rolled into the facility. So now what? In the final episode of "Evidence Over Expense," Kyle Morrison and Xenex's Selena Pfannstiel join us to explore why the real return on investment begins after the sale is complete. From staff training and user adoption to reporting, accountability, workflow integration, and ongoing vendor support, this conversation breaks down the often-overlooked factors that can make or break long-term program success. If your organization is investing in UV technology to reduce transmission risk and drive lasting value, this episode will change the way you think about what happens after the rollout. Tune in to this series finale today! Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps-xenex-ep3 A special thanks to our sponsor, Xenex, for making this series possible. #PowerSupply #Xenex #HealthcareSupplyChain #InfectionPrevention #ValueAnalysis #EvidenceOverExpense #UVTechnology #Podcast

Not all UV technologies are created equal, and for supply chain teams, knowing the difference leads to better purchasing decisions. In this episode of "Evidence Over Expense," Dr. Sarah Simmons, DrPH, CIC, FAPIC, and Juan Gonzalez from Xenex help cut through the confusion and explain what healthcare organizations should really be looking for before investing in UV technology. From FDA authorization and product safety to service, support, and long-term usability, this conversation gives supply chain teams a clear path to smarter decision-making. If your team is evaluating UV technology, this episode will help you ask the right questions, avoid the wrong assumptions, and look beyond the price tag to what truly drives value. BONUS CONTENT: Be sure to download the free Supply Chain UV Checklist Tool to help your team ask the right questions and make more informed purchasing decisions. Click here to download: https://9231499.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/9231499/Power%20Supply/Podcast/Xenex%20Bonus%20Content%20-%20Episode2.pdf Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps-xenex-ep2 A special thanks to our sponsor, Xenex, for making this series possible. #PowerSupply #Xenex #HealthcareSupplyChain #InfectionPrevention #ValueAnalysis #EvidenceOverExpense #UVTechnology #Podcast

When we talk about infection prevention, the conversation usually starts with clinical outcomes. But what if one of the most important decisions happens long before a patient enters the room? In Episode 1 of our brand-new podcast series "Evidence Over Expense," Dr. Sarah Simmons, DrPH, CIC, FAPIC, from Xenex and Steve Egbert from XENDELLA join us to explore how healthcare teams can take a smarter, evidence-based approach to evaluating UV technology. From manual cleaning limitations to FDA authorization and the real cost of pathogen transmission, this conversation helps supply chain teams look beyond the price tag and focus on what really matters before making the investment. Because behind every cleaner room, stronger workflow, and smarter technology decision is a supply chain choice with real impact. Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps-xenex-ep1 A special thanks to our sponsor, Xenex, for making this series possible. #PowerSupply #Xenex #HealthcareSupplyChain #InfectionPrevention #ValueAnalysis #EvidenceOverExpense #UVTechnology #Podcast

El passat 10 de juny, Valentina Sánchez, una jove cega de 13 anys afiliada a l'ONCE, va captivar tothom amb la seva explicació de la maqueta tàctil de la Torre de Jesús de la Sagrada Família davant del Papa Lleó XIV i els Reis, durant la seva visita a Barcelona. La Setmana del Grup Social ONCE a Catalunya va tenir lloc de l'11 al 16 de maig sota el lema ‘TecnoInclusió: la tecnologia ens iguala'. Durant la setmana es van realitzar activitats als 17 centres i agències que l'ONCE té a Catalunya i es va culminar amb la celebració de la Diada de la Gran Família del Grup Social ONCE a Catalunya, diumenge 17 de maig, a Montserrat. . El passat dimecres, 8 d'abril, vam celebrar la 28à gala d'entrega dels Premis Literaris Roc Boronat a l'Auditori de l'ONCE a Barcelona, un concurs literari que se celebra cada any en memòria d'aquest escriptor i polític republicà, promotor del Sindicat de Cecs de Catalunya. Dimarts 21 d'abril, l'ONCE Catalunya va acollir l'acte de lliurament dels premis autonòmics del 42 è Concurs Escolar del Grup Social ONCE. En aquesta edició van participar 9.682 alumnes de 357 centres educatius de Catalunya, sota la coordinació de 372 mestres. Enguany, sota el lema ‘Generació Innova', el Concurs Escolar ha proposat detenir-se amb l'objectiu de reflexionar, crear i actuar en equip per a millorar la qualitat de vida de les persones que més difícil ho tenen https://boletinnoticiascatalunya.once.es/

What if the next breakthrough in your supply chain doesn't require a massive budget or a complicated system implementation? In this episode of Power Supply, Alisha Beringer, Director of Supply Chain at Northwestern Medicine, shares how some of the most impactful innovations come from listening to frontline staff, solving real-world problems, and making better use of the tools already at your fingertips. From simple workflow improvements and AI-powered productivity tools to building trust with IT and fostering a culture of continuous improvement, Alisha offers practical strategies that healthcare supply chain leaders can apply immediately. She also explains why successful innovation starts with understanding the work, engaging the people doing it every day, and focusing on progress over perfection. If you're looking for practical ways to innovate without adding complexity, this episode is the perfect way to close out Season 18! Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps18-08 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #Innovation #FrontlineLessons #ContinuousImprovement #Technology #Leadership

What happens when data transparency shifts the balance of power in healthcare supply chain? In this week's episode of Power Supply, Brendan Kelly, Vice President of Business Development at Genesis Automation Healthcare, joins the team to explore how data transparency is transforming vendor relationships, contract negotiations, and supply chain decision-making. From pricing validation and contract compliance to physician preference items and real-time savings opportunities, Brendan explains how health systems are using better data to move from reactive audits to proactive action. He also shares how emerging technologies like agentic AI can help organizations cut through information overload and focus on the opportunities that matter most. If your team is looking to turn data into leverage, this episode offers a practical look at the future of healthcare supply chain. Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps18-07 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #Data #DataTransparency #CostSavings #Visability #VendorPartnerships #AI #Technology

What happens when counterfeit pharmaceuticals go digital? In this episode of Power Supply, Vinny Minhas, VP and Head of Sales at an AI-powered brand protection company, j joins the conversation to explore how technology is reshaping the fight against counterfeit drugs. From the rapid increase in counterfeit medications and hidden online marketplaces to the growing role of AI in identifying suspicious activity, Vinny shares how brands, platforms, and industry partners are working together to protect patients and preserve trust. He also explains how social media platforms, messaging apps, and other digital channels are changing the way counterfeit pharmaceuticals are marketed and sold. If you've ever wondered how counterfeit products find their way into healthcare, this episode offers a timely look at one of the industry's fastest-evolving challenges. Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps18-06 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #CounterfeitPharmaceuticals #Trust #PatientSafey #Digital #BrandProtection

What happens when healthcare supply chain teams stop trusting their own data? In this episode of Power Supply, Shireen Ahmad, Executive Partner at Midstream, joins us to explain why data hygiene remains one of the biggest challenges in healthcare supply chain, and why its impact reaches far beyond IT. From ERP migrations and broken contract relationships to pricing discrepancies that can cost hospitals thousands of dollars per procedure, Shireen shares real-world examples of how poor data quietly undermines operations, sourcing, and financial performance. She also explores the growing role of AI, master data management, and governance, arguing that data hygiene is ultimately a trust issue, not just a technology issue. If you've ever questioned the accuracy of your data, this episode offers a candid look at the challenges hiding behind the numbers. Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps18-05 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #Data #DataHygiene #Trust #AI #DataManagement

QR codes are everywhere, but what happens when a simple scan becomes a cybersecurity risk? In this episode of Power Supply, Mark Manning, Founder & CEO at iTRACE Technologies, Inc., joins the team to uncover the growing threats tied to QR codes, counterfeit medical products, and supply chain authentication in healthcare. From "quishing" scams and QR jacking to device tracking and patient safety, Mark breaks down how emerging technology is reshaping both healthcare operations and cybersecurity. He also shares how smarter authentication and tracking tools could help healthcare organizations improve transparency, reduce counterfeit risks, and strengthen trust across the supply chain. If your team is thinking about device tracking, supply chain visibility, or cybersecurity preparedness, this episode offers a timely look at where healthcare technology is headed next. Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps18-04 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #QRCode #Cybersecurity #CounterfeitProducts #Authentication #Technology

What happens when a finance leader steps directly into the healthcare supply chain world? This week on Power Supply, Jordan Ohman, CFO of Supply Chain at Bon Secours Mercy Health, shares his candid perspective on the growing intersection of finance, operations, physician alignment, and strategic sourcing. From redefining what "real savings" actually means to navigating the competing incentives between hospitals, physicians, vendors, and payers, Jordan breaks down the financial realities shaping today's supply chain decisions. Packed with insights on margin improvement, value analysis, physician-owned ASCs, AI-driven decision-making, and cross-functional collaboration, this episode will help you better understand the financial conversations shaping your supply chain decisions. Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps18-03 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #CostSavings #StrategicSourcing #Finance #PhysicianAlignment #Vendors

What does it really take to earn trust in healthcare supply chain? In this episode of Power Supply, veteran trauma rep Dan Knight pulls back the curtain on the high-stakes, always-on life of a medical device rep and what it means for the teams they serve. From 2 AM emergency cases and missed holidays to balancing surgeon demands with supply chain expectations, Dan offers a candid look at the realities behind the rep badge and why the best partnerships in healthcare are built over years, not transactions. Packed with unforgettable stories, practical relationship advice, and hard-earned lessons on collaboration, this episode will challenge the way you think about your vendor partnerships! Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps18-02 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #VendorPartner #SalesRep #Partnership #Collaboration

What happens when a healthcare system is drowning in invoice errors, buried under thousands of mismatches, and stuck chasing credit memos? In this episode of Power Supply, Misty Lynn Garrison, Director of Procurement Operations at UVA Health, shares how her team transformed a chaotic, spreadsheet-driven process into a streamlined, tech-enabled operation that delivers real results. With a background in finance and a sharp eye for process improvement, Misty explains how the right systems—and the right mindset—can stop overpayments in their tracks and turn "cost avoidance" into real, measurable savings. If your team is constantly chasing down pricing errors and invoice discrepancies, this episode offers a refreshing look at what's possible when data, technology, and people finally click into place! Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps18-01 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #Data #Procurement #Automation #Invoice #InvoiceDiscrepancy #Technology

Think you need the perfect resume to build a successful career in healthcare supply chain? On this Season 17 finale of Power Supply, we sit down with Mike Hopkins, VP of Supply Chain at Northwestern Medicine, and Harold Dillow, VP of Supply Chain at TriHealth, to explore what it really takes to build and develop talent in the healthcare supply chain. From their non-traditional journeys to the mentors who shaped them, Mike and Harold share why hiring for attitude often beats hiring for experience, how one connection can change a career journey, and what leaders should focus on when developing their teams. They also discuss why networking drives career growth and share their advice for anyone early in their career or stepping into leadership. This conversation delivers real stories, real advice, and a reminder that investing in people creates the ripple effect that strengthens the entire industry! Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps17-08 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #CareerDevelopment #Networking #Leadership #Mentoring #Hiring #Talent

Do you know for certain that every product in your hospital is authentic—or could counterfeits be slipping through undetected? On this episode of Power Supply, we're joined by Adam Bartlett, Director of Expert Services, Life Sciences & Pharmaceuticals at Resilinc, to explore how counterfeiting has become a trillion-dollar global industry targeting healthcare. From fake medications and nutraceuticals to sophisticated operations that slip counterfeit products into legitimate distribution channels, Adam breaks down how these networks operate, where the money often ends up, and why this matters for patient safety. He shares how technologies like AI, serialization, and digital product authentication are helping organizations fight back and what supply chain leaders need to know about protecting product integrity. Whether you're managing procurement, distribution, or quality control, this conversation shows you what the counterfeit threat looks like and how to protect your supply chain! Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps17-07 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #CounterfeitProducts #ProductAuthentication #SupplyChainIntegrity #PatientSafety #CounterfeitDrugs

How do you create a sustainability program when there's no roadmap, limited resources, and teams that need convincing? On this episode of Power Supply, we're joined by Chris Sanchez, Director of Sustainability and Resilience at Baptist Health South Florida, to explore how healthcare organizations can turn environmental goals into practical, measurable action. Chris shares how he built a sustainability strategy from scratch—from identifying core metrics like greenhouse gas emissions to collaborating across supply chain, facilities, and clinical teams—and breaks down where hospitals have the biggest environmental impact, from energy use and anesthetic gases to everyday purchasing decisions. Whether you're leading sustainability efforts or wondering where to start, this conversation shows you how to make healthcare supply chains smarter and greener without compromising care or budgets. Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps17-06 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #HealthcareSustainability #GreenSupplyChain #EnvironmentalImpact #SustainabilityPrograms

What if vendor credentialing isn't just a compliance checkbox—but the starting point for fixing one of healthcare's biggest operational blind spots? On this episode of Power Supply, Justin, Hayes, and Gary sit down with Mickey Meehan, CEO of Green Security, to explore his vision for the future of vendor operations. Mickey challenges the status quo of fragmented point solutions and makes the case for a fully connected vendor ecosystem—one platform that handles credentialing, value analysis, inventory, scheduling, billing, and beyond. He breaks down the real friction between hospitals, reps, and manufacturers, how technology like Bluetooth and AI could transform visibility and safety, and why treating vendor ops as strategic (not just compliance) could unlock massive efficiency gains for your healthcare facility. Tune in for a conversation that rethinks how hospitals manage the entire third-party ecosystem walking through their doors every day. Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps17-05 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #VendorCredentialing #VendorOperations #VendorEcosystem #Technology #Efficiency #ThirdPartyManagement

AI fatigue is real, but what if the solution isn't less AI but a smarter approach to how we validate and implement it? On this episode of Power Supply, we're joined by David Newton, SVP of Product, Customer Success, and AI Initiatives at HANDLE® Global and host of the Canopy podcast, to cut through the AI hype and talk about what's actually working in healthcare supply chain. David outlines why blockchain stalled while AI accelerated, how to turn proprietary data into a competitive advantage, and how to approach AI with the right mindset—trust but validate, start small, and focus on judgment over automation. He shares practical tips for using AI tools like ChatGPT and Replit, why storytelling matters as much as the technology itself, and how to build real value without chasing every new tool that comes along. Tune in to this episode for a refreshing take on how to cut through the noise and apply AI strategically -- without the burnout. Check out more AI insights from David on his podcast, Canopy -- https://www.youtube.com/@JoinCanopy Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps17-04 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #AI #Validate #Technology #Innovation #Data

What if passing your next Joint Commission survey depended less on having the right paperwork and more on whether your staff can explain the 'why' behind what they do? On this episode of Power Supply, we sit down with Kathy Neal and Sara Barker to break down Accreditation 360—the biggest shift to Joint Commission surveys in years—and what hospitals need to know for 2026. From consolidating standards to moving from checklist-based to performance-based surveys, Kathy and Sara explain what's actually changing, why collaboration across departments just became more critical, and how supply chain teams can play a leadership role in vendor management and continuous readiness. Whether you're in supply chain, IP, SPD, or hospital leadership, this conversation will give you the tools to move from survey-ready to always-ready! Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps17-03 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #JointCommission #Accreditation360 #Survey #Readiness #Standards

What if the key to AI delivering results in healthcare supply chain isn't the AI itself—but the foundation you build first? On this episode of Power Supply, we sit down with Nathan Wicks, VP of Commercial Technologies and Engineering at Cardinal Health™ WaveMark™ Solutions, to explore what it takes to build a digitally automated supply chain. From RFID and real-time data capture to cloud platforms and AI agents, Nathan breaks down the building blocks health systems need—starting with data accuracy and proven technologies that create the foundation for AI to deliver real value. He shares where to focus right now to free up clinicians, improve product availability, and cut through the hype around what different types of AI can actually do. If you're trying to figure out where to start with automation or how to build a digital foundation that sets you up for AI success, this conversation is a must-listen! Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps17-2 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #AI #Technology #Automation #DigitalSupplyChain #Data

What if treating infusion therapy as its own service line could turn pharmacy from a cost center into a revenue driver? On this episode of Power Supply, we welcome back Derek Imars, Executive Director of Pharmacy Supply Chain at IU Health, to explore why health systems should rethink their approach to infusion therapy. From the expansion of home infusion and CAR-T therapies to regulatory pressures, payor dynamics, and private equity influence, Derek breaks down the forces driving hospitals to centralize infusion services and build dedicated command centers. He shares how physician champions, referral networks, and strategic consolidation can help health systems manage the increasing spread of care delivery sites while avoiding revenue leakage. If you're managing infusion across multiple sites or wondering how to protect revenue while expanding access, this conversation shows you how to build a competitive advantage. Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps17-01 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #InfusionTherapy #Revenue #Pharmacy #Centralization

What if you could improve inventory accuracy without scanners, fancy tech, or extra staff—just smart cycle counts and creative teamwork? On this Season 16 finale of Power Supply, we're joined by Kimberly Alexander, Director of Materials and Purchasing at Huggins Hospital, for a look at how critical access hospitals can master annual inventory with limited resources. From managing unlocked storerooms on the honor system to coordinating manual cycle counts with lean teams and spreadsheets, Kimberly shows how limited resources don't have to mean limited results. She also addresses the unique challenges of critical access: weekend coverage gaps, seasonal demand swings, and wearing multiple hats across purchasing, receiving, and delivery. Whether you're preparing for annual inventory in your critical access hospital or wondering how to do more with less, this conversation delivers real lessons from someone making it work! Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps16-08 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #Inventory #CriticalAccess #AnnualInventory #Lean

Behind every safe clinical outcome is a system of supply chain decisions that make it possible. On this episode of Power Supply, we're joined by Jimmy Chung, Chief Medical Officer at Advantus Health Partners, to explore supply chain's role in patient safety—and why preventable medical errors remain a challenge that high-reliability practices can help reduce. From standardization and surgical timeouts to reducing unnecessary variation, Dr. Chung explains how safer care is built through consistent, well-designed systems. He also encourages supply chain professionals to recognize their role as partners in patient safety and confidently contribute their expertise to care delivery decisions. If you're ready to claim your voice in patient safety, this conversation will show you why supply chain is essential to high-reliability healthcare! Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps16-07 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #PatientSafety #HighReliability #SupplyChainLeadership #Standardization

What changes when your Supply Chain and Sterile Processing departments step off-site—and into their own purpose-built command center? On this episode of Power Supply, we're joined by Rusty Parker, Vice President of Supply Chain & Support Services at North Mississippi Health Services, as he breaks down the benefits of operating a standalone Consolidated Service Center (CSC) and Centralized Sterile Processing (CSP). From faster turnarounds and transport reliability to stronger protection against product shortages, Rusty shares how centralized operations unlock speed, scale, and stability across the entire health system. If you're weighing centralized models or rethinking your long-term supply chain strategy, this conversation delivers a clear look at what a purpose-built CSC/CSP can really make possible. Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps16-06 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #CSC #CSP #OffSiteOperations #Centralization

What if reorganizing a single supply room could change the way your entire hospital delivers care? On this episode of Power Supply, we're joined by Judith Ramos, Project Manager at UT Southwestern Medical Center, as she breaks down how her team turned manual counts and cluttered PARs into a standardized, clinician-friendly system. From color-coded product families and two-bin Kanban to min/max levels, FIFO (first-in, first-out), and utilization reports that account for seasonality, Judith shares her team's seven-year optimization journey that cut waste, reduced stockouts, and made supplies easier to find when seconds matter. She also explains how this foundation gave her team the confidence to open a brand-new patient tower without starting from scratch. If you're ready to turn chaotic supply rooms into calm, predictable spaces, this conversation will have you rethinking what's possible with PAR optimization! Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps16-06 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #PAROptimization #Standardization #Stockouts #SupplyRoom

What happens when you dig deeper into country of origin data and discover it's not just about tariffs or supply chain resilience? On this episode of Power Supply, Lee Ann McWhorter, VP of Business Development at Meperia (now part of Genesis Automation Healthcare), takes the country of origin conversation in a completely different direction—exploring labor practices, manufacturing conditions, and the ethical accountability hospitals need to consider when sourcing medical supplies. She shares why transparency in this data matters, how to embed it into your materials management systems, and what practical steps hospitals can take today to drive more ethical sourcing practices. Whether you're managing contracts, navigating shortages, or building supply chain resilience, this conversation will give you a fresh perspective on what country of origin really reveals about the products you're buying. Tune in today for a conversation that will change the way you approach healthcare sourcing! Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps16-05 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #Tariffs #CountryOfOrigin #HealthcareSourcing #EthicalSourcing

What's the secret to keeping your hospital's equipment safe, reliable, and budget-friendly? On this episode of Power Supply, we're joined by Marc Schlessinger, Principal Consultant and Investigator at ECRI, to dive into the world of capital replacement planning for medical devices. Marc breaks down the real factors that determine how long equipment actually lasts—from utilization rates and technology shifts to the "graveyard closets" of unused gear sitting in every OR—and shares how a smart 10-year plan can save hospitals from costly surprises. Whether you're managing budgets, maintaining devices, or just want to know what keeps your hospital's equipment running, this episode delivers real-world insights, actionable tips, and a few laughs along the way. Tune in today! Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps16-04 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #CapitalPlanning #Equipment #Budget #MedicalDevices

What if the biggest barrier to healthcare savings isn't finding the opportunities—it's getting anyone to trust they'll actually work? On this episode of Power Supply, we welcome back Mark Van Sumeren, Managing Director at Health Industry Advisor LLC, to explore what advisors can do to establish and improve trust within the healthcare supply chain. Drawing from his recent article, Mark explains why a $50 million donation makes headlines while $50 million in savings goes unnoticed— and what that says about how trust is earned, lost, and rebuilt in healthcare. Whether you're navigating hospital resistance or striving to build stronger partnerships, this conversation delivers the wisdom you need to break through and drive lasting change! Want to read Mark's article that sparked this conversation? Check it out here: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-50-million-gift-gets-celebration-savings-mark-van-sumeren-qiznc/?trackingId=%2FrS0a9UsKjKP%2BesATHBkDA%3D%3D Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps16-03 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #BuildingTrust #SupplyChainAdvisors #Partnerships #BuildingRelationships

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Every supply chain team has experienced it: the shelves look full, but the product you actually need is nowhere to be found. On this episode of Power Supply, we sit down with Dustin Patterson, National Manager of Supply Chain Solutions at LogiQuip®, to explore the storage challenges frontline supply chain teams are really facing—and how better visibility, smarter demand signaling, and stronger clinician engagement can drive faster, clearer decisions that keep products stocked where they're needed most. From stockouts to communication gaps, Dustin shares what's working, what's not, and how collaboration is key to unlocking efficiency across the system. If you're ready to elevate inventory flow from storage to the bedside and ensure the right product reaches the right place at the right time, this conversation is one you won't want to miss! Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps16-02 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #SterileStorage #SupplyChallenges #DemandSignaling

From duplicate SKUs to missing data fields, supply chain teams know it's the smallest identifiers that create the biggest headaches. On this Season 16 premiere episode of Power Supply, we're sitting down with Kevin Capatch, Director of Supply Chain Technology & Process Engineering at Geisinger, to explore how GS1 standards and UDI can finally bring clarity and consistency to supply chain data. From eliminating duplicate identifiers to improving product traceability across systems, Kevin reveals how standardization is the quiet force behind smarter decisions, safer care, and real operational wins. Whether you're just beginning your UDI journey or working toward stronger data integrity across your network, this conversation will show you why a strong foundation in data standards is the key to unlocking accuracy and confidence across your supply chain. Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps16-01 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #GS1 #UDI #Data #SKU #SupplyChainData

Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell unpack the biggest takeaways from mindset coach Brad Bizjack, diving into what it really takes to create change that lasts. They reveal why perfectionism often hides behind the need for certainty, and how emotional leverage—not time—sparks transformation. Through real talk, personal stories, and practical takeaways, they show how knowing your “why” makes the “how” reveal itself. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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It actually happens in an instant when you have the leverage to create that change. For example, people in painful relationships who know they should take different action, but they don't, until something happens and all of a sudden the lever is actually pulled, right?Lesley Logan 0:18  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:01  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the compelling convo I had with another Brad. This is Brad Bizjack in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one, you did not get your life spiced up. You did not get extra dose of energy. You, you you need to, you have to go back. Brad Crowell 1:21  You're officially missing out. Lesley Logan 1:22  So you'll listen to us talk about him, and then go listen to that one. But you can't skip that one.Brad Crowell 1:27  Cannot skip it. It's a great interview, a great episode. Brad Bizjack is, he is, is very educated on emotional maturity.Lesley Logan 1:38  I think that's a good way of discussing it, yeah. Brad Crowell 1:40  And he, he explains in his programs, which Lesley and I have been students of, how we have connected the dots on things in a way that puts undue pressure on ourselves, right? So like success or security or all these amazing things that like we want and need and desire. But then, what is the like if we haven't laid it out properly, we end up feeling scared or afraid, or like a lot of pressure and all this kind of stuff. And that's why this his conversation was very compelling, because he also uses amazing. Lesley Logan 2:20  Acronyms. No, examples. Brad Crowell 2:23  Yeah examples and quips like short statements that are very thought-provoking. Loved it. Fantastic.Lesley Logan 2:31  No notes. Brad Crowell 2:32  Yeah, yeah, yeah.Lesley Logan 2:34  Well, we're gonna get into that in a second. But first Today is October 16th, National Spirit Day. Spirit Day is an annual observance that takes place on the third Thursday in October, and that's on October 16th this year. This day aims to create awareness for the bullying harassment that the LGBTQ community faces. Millions of people worldwide, identified as queer, and many more are yet to publicly declare their status. Such a large community, people shouldn't be alienated or marginalized just because of theire sexual orientation. But the reality, sadly, is that they are. All over the world, LGBTQ youth suffer harassment because of their identity. There is also a need for transgender individuals to have more protected rights. And so, you know, taking some time today to just see what's going on in your community and how you can support. I would even look up the people who are wanting if you're especially if you in a country where you can vote, look who's saying terrible things about these people and don't vote for them, period. Because here is the deal, it's not going to stop with them. It won't stop with them. If they take away all the rights of LGBTQ, where you live, they're not going to be like now we have the power we want, no, they'll come for someone, next. Brad Crowell 3:43  But it didn't start with them. That's the thing. And I think, I think that's the it's a misnomer that like, oh, wow, they're a huge problem. No, they're only a huge problem because they're the current topic of conversation, and they're and the problem is, is being well, it's being created in a way that it's not real. Right? So they're making it a problem. They're they're pretending that it's a problem because they need somebody to to alienate,Lesley Logan 4:07  Yeah, someone ha,s to be the thing that we all fear. And look, the word homosexual was not in the Bible till 1946, interesting, because I thought that was a work of of words that's been around for thouosands of years, right? So it was put in there to make you scared, to make you conform. And then in the 80s, they used the AIDS epidemic to get you scared and afraid of people and not even wanting to hug people. And now they want to make us all worried about the fucking sports. No one gave a rat's ass about women's sports and tell trans and there's like, 10 people in the NCAA sports that are trans. And when you there was a swimmer who was asked, like, are you worried about trans women in sports? She's just like, no, I'm worried about Republicans becoming Nazis. And I loved that quip. I loved it, because the reality is, is that, like, they're trying every. All of this is to scare you that there's someone different than you that is trying to take something away from you. And the reality is, is that, like bullying is rampant amongst everything. There is, I get bullying of I don't look this enough. I look too much of this. There's, everyone has it. But the reality is, is that there's a community that's getting it more right now, and it is dangerous. It's dangerous because we know that bullying costs lives. People, especially youth, will take their own lives and so it's.Brad Crowell 5:31  Dangerous on multiple levels. It's dangerous if there's an immediate danger, right? And that immediate danger is for people who are in the community that is being targeted. And currently what we're talking about is the LGBTQ community, but there's the, there's, that's the immediate danger, and then the long term danger is societally, right, because they aren't gonna, you know, somehow, like, it's not gonna stop with this community. When, when, when something, when, when the the public perception is finally, like, actually, we don't agree with you. Okay, then they're like, oh well, there's another community we need to be worried about, and they're just going to shift over to another community. They've done it. They've done it over and over and over and over. Lesley Logan 6:10  Yeah, they always do. It was the witches before this, which was just another word for women. And so my I bring, not to bring you all down, because we're gonna bring you back up again in just a second. But like, you have agency here. You can call your congress person. You can make sure that the school is do is taking action. You can also educate yourself, in case you have family members who are upset about it. Like there are ways to actually being in curiosity and ask the right questions that help them understand, you know, what is, to find out what are they afraid of? What are they so afraid of? And then we have to just also start loving more, because the other thing is, is that we just start getting mad at homophobic people, and that puts hate in our heart, and it doesn't make us any better than them. And so anyways, go observe Spirit Day. I love it. Brad Crowell 7:03  Yeah. Lesley Logan 7:04  Okay, we've announced the OPC tour, opc.me/tour so you can see all the dates. I would list all the cities off for you, but I don't have them today, while we're recording this. So they're up now, though they've been up for a couple of weeks, and you want to grab your spot. If you have any questions, let us know. But all workshops and workouts are for any lover of Pilates, new to very experienced and there are CECs, Balance Body is our sponsor. We are so, so excited about it. We're getting closer to you needing to be on that waitlist for Cambodia, because in January, you're gonna get the email that says, hey, hey, you want to get a discount on this? You're the only person who gets it if you're on the waitlist. We're in Cambodia right now.Brad Crowell 7:42  Yeah, actually, literally, Lesley and I are currently in Cambodia hosting a second retreat this year. Next year, we will only be having one retreat to Cambodia, and it will be in the fall, in October of next year, right? So if you want to be one of the group of people that can come, because it is limited, you got to be on the waitlist. Go to lesleylogan.co/retreats, that's plural, to get yourself on the wait list, you can find out all more more information on crowsnestretreats.com. But we will be making an announcement here soon, in January, about the early bird special. So prepare, stay prepared for that. Lesley Logan 8:17  Even if you hear it here, you still have to have the link in the email. So get on the waitlist. In a couple days, we're going to be in Singapore teaching a private event, and finally, seeing the Botanical Gardens. We're so, so excited about it. Brad Crowell 8:29  I'm so fired up about that. Lesley Logan 8:30  We've seen them from, like, a high up view, but we haven't actually been in them. And then, of course, we'll be on our winter tour. So that'll be five weeks long, almost like five weeks long, and then we come home for to unpack, and then we go to Huntington Beach to the Pilates Journal Expo, xxll.co/pilatesjournal, we'll get you links. We'll get you linked to the tickets.Brad Crowell 8:52  Yeah, go to xxll.co/pilatesjournal. Lesley Logan 8:55  There's a ton of people who are going to be there. I'm really excited about it. It's going to be like a reunion for me and some of these friends. So I can't wait, so you should come. And then in March, we're doing the Poland Controlology Pilates Conference. So Karen Frischmann and I are back in Wroclaw. Sorry, my Polish peeps, if I said that wrong, people try to teach you (inaudible) which is not it. It is not even close, I was like, but it's easier to say, it's like, well, that's not the name of your town. So we'll be there teaching a conference together, and then from there.Brad Crowell 9:23  So go to xxll.co/poland yeah.Lesley Logan 9:28  And then Karen, Brad and I are gonna like to-to-to through Europe until the following weekend. We'll be in Brussels. xxll.co/brussels.Brad Crowell 9:37  What do you think weigh in here, should we be saying xxll.co or should we be saying double X, double l dot co? What do you like? Think. Double X, double L? Double x, double l dot co. Lesley Logan 9:47  No, that's too hard. Brad Crowell 9:49  Double X double L. Lesley Logan 9:49  Because people might actually type in double.Brad Crowell 9:53  They might. Lesley Logan 9:53  They, our listeners would. Brad Crowell 9:55  But I, IKYKY. Lesley Logan 9:58  Yeah, but people say that. No one says. Brad Crowell 10:01  Double x, double l dot co. I'm making it a thing. Lesley Logan 10:04  No, xxll.co/brussels.Lesley Logan 10:07  I let you make OPC a thing. No, this is xxll.co or it should be xxll.co, maybe not saying the C-O, because the problem is, it just sounds like too many letters, and then I get overwhelmed. So at any rate, it's also in the show notes, you can just click it, Brussels. These are both in March, and then in April, we'll be at P.O.T. in London. Brad Crowell 10:27  Looking forward to that. Lesley Logan 10:28  Alright, we had an incredible question that was really fun, and, like, got us all chatting in the studio in between classes. Brad, so I thought I would bring the attendees from Essex question, because I just thought, let's talk about this.Brad Crowell 10:42  That's so fun. Okay, the question was, what non-Pilates books do you read? Lesley Logan 10:48  A lot. Brad Crowell 10:49  Okay. Lesley Logan 10:49  I don't read very many Pilates books anymore. I mean, there's only a couple good ones. So, okay.Brad Crowell 10:54  So let's talk about it. Do you prefer a specific type of genre of non-Pilates books? Lesley Logan 11:00  I love a good popcorn book. You know, a popcorn for your brain book. That's how my friend Sue and I talk about, like. Brad Crowell 11:04  What does that mean? Just like. Lesley Logan 11:05  You read the book and you get lost and like, it is not going to change the world. It's definitely not going to change your life. You can almost consume the book in like, two or three days. It's, it doesn't make, change your intelligence in any way. But it's like, it's like a little popcorn for your brain. The books are like, that would signify that as, like, The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo, that author, so good, that book, I read it in two days. I was like, I never have time to read. Right in two days, I have fucking plenty of time to read if I like the book. I don't. So I like that kind of genre, like a rom-com type book is like my go to but you and I are really into the Empyrean series. And I. Brad Crowell 11:45  We sure are. Lesley Logan 11:45  So I post. So I shared with this group. I said, oh, I'm deep in the Imperium series, because it's, like, a great way to, like, get lost in something. And the girls were like, The Fourth Wing, and I'm like, Yeah, I'm in. And they were like, okay, I've heard it's really good. So it's only making its way to the U.K. right now. At any rate. Brad Crowell 12:03  The Empyrean. E-M-P-Y-R-E-A-NLesley Logan 12:05  Yeah, so, Rebecca Sorrows. Brad Crowell 12:07  And yeah, no. Yarros. Rebecca Yarros, yeah.Lesley Logan 12:12  But I get this, so Yasmeen, she posted a picture and tagged me with The Fourth Wing and Tiny Habits. And she said, my recommended reading and I was like, never has anyone ever put those two books in the same like Recommended Reading section, for sure. So I shared it, and someone else was like, oh, are you reading that series? I said, Oh, I definitely am, and I recommend it all the time. And I got a recommendation for another series that's really good. So I haven't read it yet, so I can't tell you about it, but it's really quite fun to see how many people are in the (inaudible) people are into it. It's very, very good, look, it's, it's, it's gonna be it's like, what is it like, called? Romantic fantasy or it's like, what's the genre? Because it's fantasy, but it's not, if you don't read it with your kids, so it's got to have, like, another letter, another word. So while he's looking that up, I.Brad Crowell 13:03  They call it new adult fantasy romance or military fantasy.Lesley Logan 13:07  That's, no, that's, I would call it adult fantasy. That's what I would put it under. And it's great. I really, really like it. It's from a female, like, hero perspective. Brad Crowell 13:17  Oh, they call it romantasy. Lesley Logan 13:19  Romantasy. That's a better, that's good, that's romantasy. I also, other books that I recommend that are non-Pilates, Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It, obviously said Tiny Habits, The Big Leap you're never getting out of that one that was a must read every year. And I, I think we have some authors who had some books come out. Wendy Valentine had a book come out, The Midlife something. And Dr. Celeste had her book come out on like, Missionary Position. So I would say, like, if I've had an author on the pod with a book, I've probably read their book. Or if their book's not out yet, I read it afterwards. And I love those people so much, of course, I'm gonna love their book. But I also recommend, if you're always reading business books, you got to get into the romantic, fantasy. Romantasy. Brad Crowell 14:00  Romantasy. Lesley Logan 14:01  You do you got to get lost in something. Life is too serious. So anyways, those are my non-Pilates books that I can recommend to you right now. Brad Crowell 14:09  Okay, I have gotten into a new author recently. His name is Edward W Robertson. Lesley Logan 14:16  Why does he need a W? His last name is so long. Brad Crowell 14:21  He has written 73 books. Lesley Logan 14:23  There's 73 books in the series? Brad Crowell 14:25  There are, no, he's written multiple series about different things, but I have read 14 books of his so far. Oh, there's a whole nother one. No, I've read 17 books of his. So I've read the Cycles. He's got three Cycles, Cycles of Galland, Arawn and Scour, and basically they are perfectly in line with the other books I've talked about over the years on this pod. They are definitely a fantasy. Lesley Logan 14:48  Like Wheel of Time. Brad Crowell 14:50  Right. That's Robert Jordan, and there's another author I'm a big fan of, Michael, Michael J, What's his last name? Sullivan. Michael J. Sullivan. But this is Edward W Robertson. And what I what I really enjoyed about this was he's also created his own, you know, dynamic duo of these, you know, unlikely heroes, their kids in the in this, they start off in their late teens, and they, you know, end up becoming major players on the world stage over the, you know, length of these 10 books in the one series. The one cycle series is kind of the precursor to it. Another one is a double precursor to it. So he started off. Lesley Logan 15:27  I'm going to tell you, you overwhelm people when you said 14 books (inaudible). Brad Crowell 15:31  Sorry, just listen to them. It doesn't matter. There, it's not even about that. It's not about finishing them. There's just something really enjoyable about them. I think, I think it went through them in like, six or eight months, because they're, they're shorter than the the Wheel of Time stuff, you know? Lesley Logan 15:46  Well, there you go. And so there are your books. You guys get lost in a book, I promise you. It's it makes. Brad Crowell 15:51  You're gonna love it. Lesley Logan 15:52  It's so much more fun. You like different person on the other side. Okay. And also, if you don't want to spend money on it, go to your public library and get a library card. You can actually get audio books and iPad books through your local library. Okay?Brad Crowell 16:07  Yes, you can. If you have any questions for us, you should text them to us. Text them at 310-905-5534, or you can send them in through beitpod.com/questions beitpod.com/questions or you can leave a win or a question and who knows they might end up on the pod.Lesley Logan 16:23  We need some wins.I want to share them on the pod. Okay, let's talk about Brad Bizjack.Brad Crowell 16:29  Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to talk about Brad Bizjack, and we're going to be reinvigorated by his enthusiasm for life. The guy is just amazing. So can't wait. Stick around. Brad Crowell 16:42  Welcome back. Let's talk about Brad Bizjack. Brad is a personal development expert and coach who helps people rewire limiting beliefs, toxic thought patterns and emotional blocks that have been holding them back from success and the fulfillment that they deserve. After starting his career buried in $92,000 worth of debt and struggling for years to get his business off the ground, Brad discovered the power of shifting identity and mindset. Today, he has built a multimillion dollar business served over 70,000 people worldwide, and teaches others how to break free from perfectionism, procrastination and fear so they can step fully into their potential. And I gotta say, there's nothing more be it than the things that he's teaching. It's amazing when you dig in. And Lesley and I have been we've gone through two of his programs. Lesley Logan 17:32  Yeah, he's got a program starting next week, so.Brad Crowell 17:34  Yeah, literally next week. And it's free. Lesley Logan 17:37  It's free. Brad Crowell 17:37  Yeah, you should totally do his free program. Lesley Logan 17:39  Five days. Brad Crowell 17:40  We started there.Lesley Logan 17:41  And also it's like, it happens in the morning for us. So obviously, in the you know, if you're not in Pacific, it's not early morning, it's gonna be some other time. But it was really nice to start in the morning. We go for a dog walk, and just be like, lit up on this dog walk. And you're like, yeah, I'm ready. And I, anything you say, like, oh, I can't do I don't know, or I got this, I can't do it. I'm stuck. I won't know how to do it. Well, he really kind of, like, breaks down, like, some of these stories we tell ourselves, and one of the things he says is, like, when you know what you want and why you want it, the how reveals itself. When you know what you want and why you want it, the how reveals itself. And. Brad Crowell 18:18  Yeah, because it, because, I think that's. Lesley Logan 18:20  I think most people don't know why. Brad Crowell 18:22  Yeah, but I think the easiest thing for people to get stuck on is, how am I going to do that? I might as well not even try.Lesley Logan 18:28  Right. Because, but also, I think they, they know one of the two, but not both, like they know why they want to do something, or they know what they want to do, but they don't know both and their why is so superficial? Well, because I want to make money. And it's like, okay, well, why do you want to make money? Like, you gotta, like, why do you want to do it? Like, I told the story in the U.K. about, like, why I love to teach Pilates, you know? Like, what my mission is. Why is my mission this? And then Linda was like, can you repeat that? And it was like, really cute. It was a long story, but the whole thing is, like, I'm so passionate about what that is. It makes it the h does reveal itself, because opportunities come up or like, people say, say something, and you're like, wait a minute, that is an entirely different industry. But I could do it like the how reveals our tours happen because we knew what we wanted to do. We knew why we wanted to do it. And then this person over here is like, I want to go on a book tour. I'm like, how can we go on a book tour? Right? So, like, I really, really love that. And then we talked about, like, he believes we get so caught up in seeking the how, but struggle to take action. And so it's just procrastination in disguise. And then he said this occurs because of overvaluing certainty. And man.Brad Crowell 19:41  This is like, this was like a mic drop, you know, the overvaluing of certainty. You know what that is, that's actually like, we think that having certainty is going to help us move forward, but when we, before, we get to the place where we feel certain, we get stuck.Lesley Logan 20:02  Or we, he said, like, we take little actions because we're very certain we can do those little things, but we don't take the big actions because we don't know what's going to happen with those. We don't know how that's going to play out or what the outcome will be. So we're like, oh, I'm just going to keep checking the box, checked my email, responded to these people, post it on social, but we're not, no one's actually like, okay, I'm gonna do a class. I'm gonna do pilates and (inaudible) like, because, like, no one comes. Like, I need to make sure everyone's gonna be there. Everything is certain. And oh my god, when we study with him, we did this five day series that you can do next week. We did a couple years ago. And when he told me about certainty and perfectionism. I fucking was like, I felt so called out. I was like, oh my god, this is my problem. I was like, recovering perfectionist. But then I like, let certainty in there. And certainty is just perfectionism, guys. So anyways, I have I really love this man so much. And he said we base our worth on external success, leading to a feeling of burnout, or that nothing feels like enough. And I think this happens a lot. In fact, on an OPC call today, one of the girls who's going through a teacher training so that she feels like burnt out on Pilates, and, you know, she's doing this thing, and we were talking about how like, because when you're in a training program, there's a lot of corrections, like the teachers are correcting you a lot because they want you to know all the things. They don't want you going off thinking you're perfect at it. They want you to know how to do it. You know, you thinking you'd have all these cues. And really it's all this external success, like, okay, when I look like the 100 I have made it, versus this internalization of like the Pilates practice, like the focus in a teacher training is so external. What does the exercise look like? Can you do it well that you end up feeling burnt out and like nothing's ever enough, like you're not good enough to do this. And so I just this, just happened an hour before we hit the record on this. And I feel this so so much, because we're, like, waiting for someone to validate who we are and what we're doing, instead of ourselves, like an internal version of, like, what success is. I love this.Brad Crowell 22:11  So, just so that y'all know, we actually have an invitation for you to join Brad's program, the five day program for free, that's called the Success Accelerator, and it starts in just a few days.Lesley Logan 22:21  It's on the 20th, so it's, this is Thursday. It's gonna start on Monday.Brad Crowell 22:26  The link's in the show notes, but you can go to beitpod.com/success, and like I said, it's free. Lesley and I did this program, and it was really, really impactful for us.Lesley Logan 22:36  Well, what did you like that he said? Brad Crowell 22:38  Yeah. So, Brad said, I just, I love that you had to clarify Brad husband versus Brad Bizjack on the call, I was laughing. Lesley Logan 22:49  I know, because I think I told a story, and I was like, my Brad husband. Brad Crowell 22:52  Yeah, yeah. Brad said, hey, change does not take a long time to do. It actually happens in an instant when you have the leverage to create that change, for example, people in painful relationships who know they should take different action, but they don't, until something happens and all of a sudden the lever is actually pulled, right? That leverage comes from changing at a higher, more fundamental level than just behaviors or capabilities, you can you can say when you have to change, when you are forced to change, right? And I think it's interesting, that's actually where lasting change comes above the line of lasting change. I don't know why. Like, I don't basically.Lesley Logan 23:39  Oh, it's because, like, people often, like, change, and they do a little thing and they go back. They like as, like, if there's a line, and, like, you got to cross the line, and people think, oh, it's gonna take forever to make this change. Like, it's gonna take forever to create a habit. And so they think it's gonna take forever to create a habit, and they do it for two days, and they end up on the other side of not having the habit. And then they have a couple days of habit, and it's actually like no, if you know who you what you want, why you want it, and you make the decision to change, you can actually change it, because it's an emotional thing in your brain that does this.Brad Crowell 24:10  Yeah, I, I've personally experienced this kind of requirement for change. This must change or bad things will happen when it came to smoking cigarettes, and everyone talks about how addicting, you know nicotine is, and they're not wrong, because unless you absolutely have to change, you probably won't, because it is addicting and it will pull you back in but I was singing and I was in a band, and I was smoking cigarettes, and I remember being on stage coughing into the mic because I couldn't sing my own songs that I had written. And it became immediately clear that day I have to choose, do I want to keep smoking, or do I want to keep singing? And that was, like, so easy to decide, because I was like, well, I love singing. I love being in a band. So therefore, goodbye smoking, you're gone, and that was it. That was like, the moment of, I must, I made it above the line of lasting change, and, and, and also, too, you know, sure, did I still have these moments of like, you know, like, like, habit of like, when I used to, you know, where I would be smoking on the card, right into the opposite, whatever, you know where it was. It was just a regular, consistent thing, and I was missing that, yes, but because it was like an easy thing to know I I actually want to sing. I want to sing more than I want to smoke in those moments of trial, it was still easy for me to fall back on the decision I had made, because it was an emotional decision. I was terrified of the idea that I wouldn't be able to perform, you know. So, you know, there, there is like this moment of have to do that will bring about that change, you know. So yeah.Lesley Logan 25:52  And I think that goes back to like you knew what you wanted and why you wanted it, and that made it, the how easier.Brad Crowell 25:57  I knew what and I knew why and then so the how involved not smoking, and that is what made it easy to do, yeah, that's a great, great callback there. I love that. So yeah, we love a callback. Yeah, that was impactful for me. And these are the kinds of things that Brad addresses, you know, on the five days. So, you know, definitely go check that out.Lesley Logan 26:18  I just think that like if you are, if you were lit up at all by his episode, why not? It's free. There's no replays like, why wouldn't even if you watch one day of his stuff, next week, you're going to learn something about yourself that's going to change your life. I still think about like the things that we learned in those five days, even if we didn't pay for the program, like, I still like, like, I was forced to, like, level up in a way, like I was, like, it was great. Brad Crowell 26:48  Yeah, yeah, the Success Accelerator. And then we went on to do another program of his called Rewired After, but the Success Accelerator was absolutely worth it, and yeah.Lesley Logan 26:59  Especially if you just, like, are going if you just have a hard time not talking yourself down, you need someone in your ear who talks you up. You just do. Anyways, we got to get into the Be It Action Items. Brad Crowell 27:09  Yeah, okay, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into these epic Be It Action Items from Brad Bizjack, we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 27:16  All right, finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Brad Bizjack, I'm going to jump in first here. He said he shared three primary ways to shift any belief pattern, and these are the things where I was talking about the have to do. So it was really interesting. He said you can introduce the idea of doubt, you can introduce pain, or you can introduce vision, right? And I think that vision is probably the easiest to talk about, right? That's the one that we. Lesley Logan 27:48  It feels more positive. Brad Crowell 27:49  It does feel more positive, you know. But doubt is something that will challenge a worldview, right? You know, when you have doubt, or when doubt is introduced, it really does start to make you analytical, analyze the thing that you might be doubting. You know, whether that is the way you were raised, or we've always done it this way, or this is the quote-unquote, right way to do it, or the right thing to do. You know, maybe there are other things that you know that that cause doubt. He suggested looking for evidence that challenges those beliefs. For example, if you think money is super hard to make, you can ask yourself the question, but is is that true for everyone? Some people have the the golden touch, as it were, right? We've all heard that, that expression, well, if money isn't hard to make for them, why? How come it's easy for them, but difficult for me, quote-unquote, difficult for me, right? Maybe that's the story I'm telling myself. Right? So how do we change that belief since we have evidence that it's that other people have been able to do it. So that's an interesting idea of introducing the concept of doubt. Two, pain. He said if you can see the consequences of what happens if you don't change and actually live those consequences in your mind, you will start to change. This was my lived experience. Pain, right? I did not want the pain of not being able to perform, not being able to sing, and I could see a life that I did not want if I kept going down the path that I was going out when it came to cigarettes, right? He used the Christmas carol story as an example for this. Scrooge didn't want to make unbearable pain. Didn't want to make change until unbearable pain was linked to staying the same, right? That's the Christmas story. Vision, finally, explain that the your beliefs shift when we create a vision that is vivid enough to excite us into new action, right? So, so like this is where a dream board can come into play, or, you know, vision casting, or you know, reflection, or taking a moment of to yourself, to, you know, to dwell on what the future could look like for you. You know that that can be motivating enough to create lasting change, to put you above that line of change. He said when we can be compelled by a beautiful vision of the future, it gives us a reason to overcome procrastination, or whatever it is that's holding us back, right? So I love that. I thought that was actually, I mean, these are the kinds of things that he just blows by, and why we wanted to talk about him again, because I listened to it, and I was like, whoa. That was, that was a lot right there. That was probably like, you know, he probably studied for like, six to 12 months to be able to concisely say that in two sentences and three sentences, and you were like, there's so much in there, we kind of have to break this down. This when you're when you listen back to the pod, there's so many snippets like that where you're like, whoa, that was profound. Whoa, that was deep. Whoa, that was really worth listening to twice. What about you, though? What was one of your biggest takeaways?Lesley Logan 30:40  So you have to be compelled by a beautiful vision of the future. You really do have to take that's why I like to do our retreats. I like to do some breath work, and like actually think about a year from now. But you need a beautiful vision of the future, because that's so compelling. And he also said, you otherwise will default to focusing on the past and the present. And people do this a lot.Brad Crowell 31:00  Sure.Lesley Logan 31:01  And it's why you're not actually seeing change, because the past and the present don't like that's that's done, and if you keep repeating it, you just get to keep repeating them. But it often becomes more painful because you didn't like, you liked part of it, or we didn't like it at all, and like now here you're feeling a little stuck. He also his bold advice is to have unreasonable dreams, unreasonable, unreasonable, and I do. It's really hard for my brain to do unreasonable dreams. It's extremely hard. But also, like it does force you to think about how you're going to achieve that in a different way, because it's so easy to go back to we talked about that itty bitty stuff, and like thinking it's gonna make a big difference, when really it's just keeping you the same. You kind of have to have an unreasonable dream, because it helps you take bigger action. And then he said taking full responsibility for making that happen. And that, taking full responsibility for making that happen. Lesley Logan 31:54  Wait, say that one more time. Lesley Logan 31:56  Taking full responsibility for making that happen. Whenever I do my schedule workshop or my habits workshop, the amount of people that are responsible for the reason why someone can't go for a walk in the morning. Brad Crowell 32:09  Oh, you mean the amount of excuses slash other people are the problem. Lesley Logan 32:14  Other people are. Brad Crowell 32:14  Not, not the person who's. Lesley Logan 32:16  Yeah, not the person who like has allowed people to take advantage of them, or they've been doing too much for other people, or they simply just didn't have, like, the vision in place to take the it's okay, it's okay to have gone like, oh, my god, I never realized I wanted to do that. And I have been making time for that, like, it's okay. You didn't. You know when you know better, you do better. So now you just got to take full responsibility for making that happen.Brad Crowell 32:39  Yeah, I love that I love the this is, this is step three, or the third, you know, way to create change, you know, with the vision casting, you know. And I think it's scary to dream big in that way, to have an unreasonable dream, it can be really scary because, you know, you I, I, this is part of my story on our business why we you know. When you don't, when you don't dream big, what you're actually doing is you're, you're giving yourself an out to fail and be satisfied with the results of the fail, and that's where I think the problem is. I think it's important to fail. You must fail, right. But we associate failure with mediocrity and pain, right? Instead of learning knowledge and a step further along the path towards success. When we associate failure with pain and mediocrity. It's easier not to have a vision for the future, because then you can't experience that quote-unquote, pain, right? And I know I did this because I would leave myself an out and say things like, it'll be nice if that ever happened for us, you know. But, but the but then it's like, you know, I would love for that to happen for us, but there's an inherent comma. But if it doesn't, I guess it's okay. I guess it was meant to be that this, it wasn't in the cards, whatever, whatever it is the, you know, the phrase that we want to insert there. And the reality is, it's not until you go, but even when, even if it doesn't happen tomorrow, or if it doesn't, you know, the failure will that will happen along this path I'm going to consider, I'm going to persist until I get to that place, you know.Lesley Logan 34:31  Yeah, well, I here's the thing. I think a lot of people weren't given the opportunity to fail. That's not the world that most of us went to school under. You had to pass, and if you didn't pass, you were, like, it was not okay. So like, I think if you are having a hard time being having an unreasonable goal or failing, then you must go to beitpod.com/success because you are going to hear that even Brad hasn't hit a single goal in six months or six years, I think, six years, six years, he hasn't had a single goal, maybe it's eight now at this point, since we met like and it's not because he hasn't tried hard or had great success. It's because he sets unreasonable goals for himself to make himself work harder than last time, and then they like reflect upon what they like, why they maybe didn't hit those goals, but like what they did do. And it's just really, really cool. So beitpod.com/success. Go take it. Go relisten to the episode. Get fired up. Let us know if you sign up for this program. Brad Crowell 35:27  Yeah. We want to know. We want to know. Lesley Logan 35:28  We'll probably even see you there. Brad Crowell 35:29  Yeah, I think we're gonna do it, too. Lesley Logan 35:30  Yeah. I love the classes. So at any rate, you're amazing. Brad's amazing. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it. Share it with three friends. Guess what, when your friends change, it makes it easier for you to change. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 35:44  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 35:45  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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What if one of the biggest untapped opportunities for healthcare savings was sitting right at your loading dock? In this season finale of Power Supply, we're joined by Bill Hale, Co-Founder and CEO of FetchGoat, to shine a spotlight on courier services—the hidden backbone linking labs, pharmacies, clinics, and patient care. From nonproductive stops to costly delays that keep couriers waiting, Bill explains how the absence of ownership, visibility, and automation has kept courier management off the radar as a key area for improvement in healthcare. He also shares how AI and smarter logistics strategies are rewriting the rules for efficiency, accountability, and patient impact. If you've ever wondered where wasted dollars are hiding in your supply chain, this conversation makes it clear: the road to savings may start with your couriers. Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps15-08 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #Savings #CourierManagement #Automation #Logistics #Efficiency

What happens when governance, risk, and compliance (GRC) collide with the everyday realities of the healthcare supply chain? On this episode of Power Supply, we're joined by David Williams, a healthcare supply chain leader with deep expertise in finance, risk, and compliance, to explore how cybersecurity, finance, procure-to-pay, and AI are all connected under the GRC umbrella. From process risks hiding in daily workflows to the growing urgency of cyber hygiene and AI governance, David explains why alignment across supply chain, finance, and IT is critical to protecting both operations and patient safety. Whether you're in the C-suite or working on the loading dock, this conversation breaks down what GRC really means for supply chain—and how to balance the equation for a smarter, safer future! Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps15-07 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #GRC #Risk #Compliance #Governance #Cybersecurity

What if hospitals could move supplies with the same speed and visibility as your last Uber ride? On this episode of Power Supply, we're joined by Justin Cooper, Director of Strategic Account Management and Continuous Improvement at Uber Freight, to discuss how gig economy models could reshape the way hospitals move supplies, manage inventory, and even support patient transport. From real-time GPS visibility and dynamic routing to shared inventory across facilities and opportunities for local communities, Justin explains why disruptive ideas might hold the key to solving some of supply chain's oldest challenges. Whether you're looking for cost savings, efficiency gains, or new ways to strengthen your logistics strategy, this conversation will have you rethinking what the future of healthcare supply chain could look like—and why it may feel as familiar as booking your next Uber ride. Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps15-06 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #HealthcareLogistics #UberFreight #GigEconomy

Late-night paperwork, frustrated reps, and supply chain teams stuck in the middle—bill-only POs have earned their reputation as one of the most painful processes in healthcare supply chain. On this episode of Power Supply, we sit down with Grant Siders, CEO of Helia Care, Inc., to talk about how an “aha moment” in the OR turned into a mission to reinvent the system. Grant shares why suppliers, reps, and hospitals often struggle to align, what an Amazon-like marketplace could look like, and how trust and transparency can reshape the process. We'll also dig into why so many past attempts to streamline bill-only have fallen short—and what it will take to build a smarter, more efficient bill-only system. If you've ever lost time, money, or sleep over bill-only paperwork, this conversation offers a new path forward. Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps15-05 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #PO #BillOnly #Purchasing

The future of AI in healthcare supply chain isn't just about smarter tools—it's about building a smarter system that delivers results. On this episode of Power Supply, we're joined by Cherie Brinkerhoff, Senior VP of Supply Chain Solutions at Ryder System, to talk about how AI transformation impacts not just technology, but the processes, people, and partnerships behind supply chain success. From large language models and their limitations to the rise of agentic AI built on specific data sets, Cherie shares how organizations can scale AI responsibly while keeping security front and center. Whether it's supporting research, easing administrative pain points, or creating secure pathways for providers and suppliers to share data, this conversation reveals how AI can drive real change where it matters most. If you've been wondering what AI can realistically do for your supply chain today, don't miss this conversation! Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps15-04 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #AI #AITransformations #Technology #SmarterTools #Data

What really counts when it comes to sterile storage—and what risks are hiding beneath the surface? On this episode of Power Supply, we're joined by Garrett Hollembeak, Infection Preventionist and AAMI TIR109 workgroup member, to explore the new guidance reshaping how sterile supplies are stored and transported. From temperature and humidity to chain-of-custody policies and receiving challenges, Garrett explains how TIR109 lays the foundation for smarter, safer sterile storage management. We'll also dig into cardboard debates, environment-of-care rounds, and the gray areas where policy, practice, and patient safety collide. Most importantly, Garrett highlights how supply chain and infection prevention can work hand-in-hand to close the gaps that put sterile storage at risk. Whether you're a supply chain leader, infection preventionist, or SPD manager, this conversation will change the way you think about storage! Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps15-03 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #TIR109 #SterileStorage #IndustryStandards

What if the future of supply chain software wasn't just “AI-enabled” but built on AI from the ground up? On this episode of Power Supply, we're joined by Stan Garber, Co-Founder & President at Levelpath, to explore what “AI native” really means, why it matters, and what you need to know. From tackling fragmented supplier data to reimagining procurement workflows, Stan breaks down how next-gen AI applications could slash project timelines, transform decision-making, and deliver insights you didn't know you needed. Along the way, we'll cover surprising headlines—like how Microsoft is turning to nuclear power to fuel AI demand—and why health systems can't afford to wait on this tech revolution. Whether you're curious, cautious, or already on the AI train, this episode will have you rethinking the future of supply chain. Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps15-02 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #SupplyChain #AI #Technology #TechRevolution

How many workarounds does your team go through just to manage one backorder? On this Season 15 premiere episode of Power Supply, we sit down with Sarah Kerin, Founder and CEO of efficientSC, to explore the root causes behind persistent supply disruptions—and what healthcare supply chain teams can do to take back control. With experience spanning frontline healthcare and global tech giants, Sarah brings a unique perspective on how to rethink backorder response strategies, improve supplier communication, and tackle internal roadblocks like IT delays and limited budgets. Tune in today to discover how Sarah's proven approach to backorder management can help your team cut through the chaos and stay prepared for whatever disruption comes next. Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps15-01 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #Backorders #Burnout #SupplyDisruptions #InventoryManagement

Text me Your email for my Booking LinkIn this special crossover episode, Michael Jay of Yoga Biz Champ and Tyler Valencia of the KIPS Podcast go deep into the real-world ways they're using AI to run and grow their businesses. Whether you're a yoga studio owner or a solo fitness pro, this chat is packed with insight into how AI is streamlining marketing, improving communication, and helping business owners stay ahead—without losing their human touch.This isn't theory—it's how we're actually using AI every day for better emails, easier content, client retention strategies, and business clarity.What We Cover:* AI tools for smarter email, SEO, and marketing (ChatGPT, Grammarly, Gemini)* Using transcripts + prompts to generate content, titles, and newsletters* Studio-specific uses: retention issues, content bottlenecks, and automations* CapCut, Adobe Podcast, Zoom AI, and other tools we personally use* How to feed AI your tone, values, and brand identity (so it sounds like you)* Why the human touch still matters—and when not to rely on AIJuly 2025 Coaching Note:

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Is your team spending hours driving from site to site just to check inventory levels? On this Season 14 finale of Power Supply, we welcome Alex VandenBroek from MultiCare and Guy Russell from VUEMED to explore how electronic shelf labels are transforming non-acute logistics across multiple locations. From eliminating daily drives to numerous locations to enabling real-time ordering through a simple button press, our guests share how this technology frees up valuable staff time while improving visibility and communication with clinical teams. If you're managing multiple sites or looking to deploy your human resources more strategically, tune in to hear Alex and Guy reveal how they turned routine inventory management into an automated success story that builds trust and delivers measurable efficiency gains! Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for 0.5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps14-08 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #Inventory #Technology #NonAcuteLogistics

Ever wonder why your projected supply chain savings don't always show up the way you expected on the financial statements? On this episode of Power Supply, we welcome Doug van Houten, Strategic Consultant-Materials at Multiview Financial Software, to break down key finance and accounting concepts that can help supply chain professionals work more effectively with their finance teams. From double-entry accounting and ERP transaction timing to accounts payable procedures that can make or break vendor relationships, Doug shares the key concepts that transformed his effectiveness as a supply chain leader and eliminated costly miscommunications with finance teams. If you're looking to strengthen your finance knowledge or improve collaboration between departments, tune in today to discover how Doug's expert insights can help you bridge the gap between supply chain operations and financial performance! Once you complete the interview, jump on over to the link below to take a short quiz and download your CEC certificate for .5 CECs! – https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/ps14-07 #PowerSupply #Podcast #AHRMM #HealthcareSupplyChain #Finance #Accounting #Leadership

Get the inside scoop on how the OPC tours came to life, including the key role Balanced Body played in making them happen. Lesley and Brad share what it's like to be on the road, how they stay grounded during tour season, and why reflecting after each stop matters. This episode is packed with community, purpose, and behind-the-scenes fun. Whether you've joined a tour before or are curious about what it's like, you'll love hearing what's in store for this year.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How the Balanced Body partnership made the OPC tours possible.Highlights from past tours and how they've evolved.Navigating unexpected changes and pivots while on the road.The small routines that keep Lesley grounded during tour season.Why reflecting after each tour helps improve the next one.The real impact of showing up in person and building community.A behind-the-scenes look at this year's OPC tour plans.Episode References/Links:Balanced Body - https://www.pilates.comContrology Reformer - https://beitpod.com/reformerContrology Spine Corrector - https://beitpod.com/spinecorrectorContrology Folding Mat - https://beitpod.com/foldingmatOPC Tours - https://opc.me/tourOPC Host - https://opc.me/host If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:58  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It second half of the how did these tours come to be? And Brad is back as my guest. So this is a different kind of cadence, I guess you'd say. Brad Crowell 1:10  Yeah, you know, we're shaking things up a little bit. Lesley Logan 1:11  So we're not answering any of your questions. We're not going to talk about the Be It Action Items we shared with you. Brad Crowell 1:16  But we are going to talk about that amazing guest you had on this week's episode. Lesley Logan 1:20  Oh yeah, yeah. We're talking about you, Brad. Brad Crowell 1:22  It was me. Lesley Logan 1:23  And also, if you want to come to the tours, opc.me/tour, no matter when you hear this, you will always be able to see what upcoming tour there is or you'll get on a waitlist for the next one to come out. But basically, we do two tours a year. So we left off with how we started talking with Balanced Body about our tours.Brad Crowell 1:42  Yeah. So I remember we were at a POT, I think. Lesley Logan 1:46  In Monterey in 2020. Brad Crowell 1:48  No, I think it was before that. I think it was in Chicago, even before that. Lesley Logan 1:51  Well, there was a Chicago one that I talked to them and I planted the seed, that was in 2019. Brad Crowell 1:54  Yeah, but that's the one I was talking about. So we started talking to Balanced Body years prior to their participation, and I remember the conversation with their team. I just remember looking at their operation and literally watching them back a tractor trailer up to the convention center and commenting and going, Wow, you guys have tractor trailers. And the response was, we have three. I was like, you have three tractor trailers? They're like, yeah, look where do you think all these Reformers are gonna go? And they were loading case after case after case of things into the thing. And I was like, wow, it's so much work for you guys to go on the road. And they said, yeah, for us to put on these POTs, it is a massive enterprise to do. Many, many, many people, lots and lots of money. It's so much coordination, so much effort, you know. And I jokingly said, well, you know, I think we can help you guys out with that. And that didn't really come to anything, but I, in my mind, I was like, we could do it for half, you know. And then we got the van, and then we were talking with Ken.Lesley Logan 2:56  What happened is they changed, on the Contrology, they changed how you can do the wheels, the side wheels, how you can tighten them or not tighten them, and they change it to make it easier for people. And so I said, we're all, we're driving to the POT Monterey anyways, because we're gonna have a booth there as well because we had a booth in the October one which was when you kind of planted that seed. Brad Crowell 3:15  Yeah, and for us it was only what eight hours, at this point we've driven across the country multiple times. They're like, yeah, we'll just drive. Lesley Logan 3:20  I said, oh, I'll bring my Reformer. And we weren't even staying at the hotel where the event was. We were just down the street, just because of, like, I needed a really big room. Brad Crowell 3:27  Yeah, you had to do a weekend workshop thing. Lesley Logan 3:29  Yeah, I had to, like, host a weekend event and so we needed a big room. And so I had my assistant at the time, like, literally scoping pictures of rooms and we're like, there's no way we can make this room work, because the beds right there. So we had to stay about a mile a half away from the venue. And so Ken Ubered over. Brad Crowell 3:45  Ken is the owner of Balanced Body. Lesley Logan 3:47  Yeah, so get this, Ken Ubered over to our hotel, during setup of his humongous convention, to change the little silver situation that goes on the back of my carriage, to change the wheels out. Brad Crowell 4:01  Yeah, he brought us wrenches.Lesley Logan 4:02  He just brought a wrench, brought a credit card, so we had also brought our Nespresso machine. Brad made him a cup of Nespresso and so he fixed he like, this is, this is what.Brad Crowell 4:11  We're just chilling out, you know, and he's working on this Reformer, we're just chit-chatting. Lesley Logan 4:16  And then Brad's like, oh, man, I'll take you back to the venue. Brad Crowell 4:18  Yeah. He's like, oh, I'll grab an Uber. I was like, no, you will not grab an Uber. I will drive you, you know. And of course, I wanted him to see the van. Lesley Logan 4:26  Yeah. So he got in the van. He had to see how big the van was. He had just seen that we brought the Reformer. Brad Crowell 4:31  Yeah, yeah. Obviously, we brought the Reformer. But he said to me, oh my gosh, I always wanted one of these when I was in my 20s. I always just wanted to drive around the country. And it's so cool that you guys are doing this, and that's when I got a chance to say, well, this is, you know, we do go on tour, and we are taking, we're already taking a Reformer with us, so that we can show off the Contrology Reformer, right? And he was like, wow. And so, you know, I didn't like full blown pitch him in that moment, but it was like one major seed planted, because he could see it, feel it, touch it, understand it, in a way that wasn't us trying to pitch the vision. He could be in the vision.Lesley Logan 5:09  Yeah. So they actually signed on with us for our first ever summer tour. And so we got to do the west coast because we'd only ever done the East Coast and the middle we'd never done the west coast before we'd pulled them. We want to do a West Coast tour. So we actually did our first West Coast tour. It wasn't very long. It was kind of like a short and sweet thing. I know. We did Las Vegas. We did Los Angeles. Brad Crowell 5:31  Well, somewhere in there, we missed the 2022 winter tour. But we, 2020. Lesley Logan 5:36  Oh, yeah, we did a '22 we did a 22, you're right, we did do a 2022 winter tour. And that got bigger, got back up to the size. Brad Crowell 5:41  Yeah, that was like eight or nine. So we have Cleveland, St Louis, Dallas, Houston, Nashville, Atlanta, Greensboro. Yeah. So. Lesley Logan 5:48  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That one, that one was really great, actually, because we got back up to our 2019 numbers and so we were able to say, okay, so we've had four tours, and so we're able to show them like, look now that COVID allows us to do this. Look at these nine cities. What if we, so we did our biggest tour ever, which was the West Coast tour. We didn't do Los Angeles. We started at Las Vegas. Did we even do Las Vegas? I know we did Riverside. Brad Crowell 6:10  For the summer tour? Lesley Logan 6:11  Yeah. We did Redlands. Brad Crowell 6:13  Redlands, Long Beach. Lesley Logan 6:14  Long Beach. Brad Crowell 6:14  Bakersfield. Lesley Logan 6:15  Bakersfield. Brad Crowell 6:16  Central Valley, Hanford, Fresno. Lesley Logan 6:18  Yeah it was near Fresno. Brad Crowell 6:19  Modesto. Lesley Logan 6:20  Modesto. You guys were hitting some of those great I-5 cities. Brad Crowell 6:23  So that's five. Yeah, we did Fairfield. Lesley Logan 6:25  Yes. And we did Sacramento. Brad Crowell 6:27  Sac. Lesley Logan 6:27  And then we did a tour of Balanced Body, even though we've done it before with Ken, we did a tour so that our OPC members could see how it's all done. It was so fun. They do amazing work at Balanced Body, just being great on the environment. Then we did. Brad Crowell 6:40  Bend. Lesley Logan 6:40  Bend, Oregon. Brad Crowell 6:42  Portland. Lesley Logan 6:42  Portland. That was so fun, too, Seattle, and then. Brad Crowell 6:46  Spokane. Lesley Logan 6:47  Spokane and then we dropped down, had a couple days off in Idaho. And then we got all around St George, Utah. Brad Crowell 6:54  So we did 11 stops. Lesley Logan 6:55  11 stops, it was our biggest one, and it was so fun. And we got to see how hot it could get. So then the van got a fan. Brad Crowell 7:05  We also did that whole tour in two weeks. Lesley Logan 7:07  In two weeks. Brad Crowell 7:07  It was like 16 days. Lesley Logan 7:09  It was really. Brad Crowell 7:10  It was zipped through 11 stops in 16 days. Lesley Logan 7:13  It was, yeah, there's a heat wave. So I was not, I was okay with zipping through. Then, because of that went so well and Balanced Body was so great with that that they joined us for our winter tour in 2023 and then we really able to like. Brad Crowell 7:26  But that's when I think things really blew up. Lesley Logan 7:27  Yeah, I don't think it was our, it was our biggest tour, for sure. It beat the 11 cities, but it wasn't our biggest, biggest. Then, last year, you want to go through them? Brad Crowell 7:36  Sure. We did Vegas, St George, Denver, Lawrence, Kansas, St Louis, Missouri, Cleveland, Ohio, Saratoga Springs. That was a private event. Boston, t hen Providence, private event. Brooklyn. We had to cancel New York City because nobody was in town. Hershey, Pennsylvania, Greensboro, North Carolina, Charleston, South Carolina, Miami, Sarasota, that's the first time we did the inside of Florida. Then Austin, Dallas, Albuquerque, Sedona. So by far, this was the largest one of the 19 cities. Lesley Logan 8:10  Yeah, then we did a summer tour with the Midwest. Because if you've noticed, we've been skipping Chicago for a while. So we have been alternating the West Coast, with the Midwest, and so this is how we decided, like, okay, so you need to know, after every single one of these tours, we reflect about, like, what went well, what cities went well? Will we go back, how the people like it, how much effort was it, how great was the host? You know, if we love the host, obviously it's amazing for us to want to go there. If the host works really, really hard, then, of course, we want to continue to work with them and support them. But we also discovered that my voice, as I get older, my voice can only do. Brad Crowell 8:47  I don't think it's just because you're getting older. We had you working nine days in a row, literally teaching class nine days in a row. By the ninth day you were fried. Lesley Logan 8:56  And some of these studios, they're acoustic. Brad Crowell 8:58  You're not a day older than 29, love. Lesley Logan 8:59  Thanks, baby. Some of these students, the acoustics are not awesome for that, because you have to get your voice to carry and all these things. And so, at any rate, you'd think, well, Lesley, don't you teach all day? No. No, I don't. No, I don't. In fact, when I. Brad Crowell 9:14  Come on, you do talk, you do talk most of the time, but like this is different than trying to yell in a warehouse, you know, like. Lesley Logan 9:20  Yeah, and get people's attention in a warehouse, for sure, some of them have music going on, the whole thing. So, at any rate, we've made changes to the tour. So you'll notice with tour schedules since summer of the Midwest. Brad Crowell 9:31  Well, that, so the Summer Tour was only 13 stops, but we did it in 16 days. Yes, we were flying through. Lesley Logan 9:36  We made changes that we can only do max six days in a row before a day off, five is more ideal. Brad Crowell 9:42  But this was a major change for us, where, whereas, like, all right, we have to be very intentional about the breaks that we're putting in. Because one, things Lesley mentioned at the beginning was, how does she maintain her consistency? How does she maintain her you know, how do you do that stuff? Lesley Logan 9:57  So these tours, because I don't want to do them, because it's a job. We actually truly enjoy doing the tours. We have so much fun. I mean, I get to hug hundreds of people. It's so great. And it really, actually makes me go, oh, I wanna teach all the time. And then I'm actually like, no, actually, I really love my life, but I love that I get to see so many of you that I only see on like, I only get to read words on the internet. I get to see you in person. I could touch you and like you're three dimensional and all the things. We really love doing it, we also want to be able to be as present as possible. And so after every tour, we always reflect back, do we have enough time in that city? Do we have enough time to do this? You guys, I must work out so I do not teach all these people Pilates, and I don't get workouts in. And so every schedule we have to make sure that five days a week, I have time at a gym. I have time to move before I'm teaching giving me space to go the gym at 11pm at night is not space to work out. Also, I have to make sure that I get to have seven hours of sleep, very important. So all the things that I preach about prioritizing myself first, those things happen on tour. Brad Crowell 10:57  People always ask us how do you maintain your routine when you're completely jacking up your routine?Lesley Logan 11:02  Yeah? Well, you can speak to this. You guys use a really cool app that plans out everything, because he'll kind of drive late at night while I'm sleeping, so I can go to bed early, and I'll wake up and it will say like you're working out from this time to this time. Then you're driving here to get coffee, and then you're driving here to do this thing, and so that I have time to do my thing for myself while you're sleeping.Brad Crowell 11:22  Yeah, so we take shifts, because just the nature of our brains and our bodies, I usually stay up late. Lesley usually gets up early, especially when, when it was the COVID trip that was crazy, like the van almost never turned off. We just kept going. Lesley Logan 11:36  We were so nervous about touching anything. Brad Crowell 11:37  I sleep, you drive, and while you were sleeping, I would drive, and we'd just go, go, go. Lesley Logan 11:42  That was very different. That was also just like a very different time in the world. We were, like, afraid. We still wondered if you got COVID from gas station handles and we were going to see people at Christmas, and we had to do like, a three-day hangout at your parents' house.Brad Crowell 11:55  But the point is that we were overlapping on purpose while one was sleeping, the other was driving. Now it's a little less. The maximum amount of driving that we're trying to do in a day is, like, no more than eight hours. And that's still a lot, you know, so we've started to slow it down, which has since then made the tour longer, but it makes it a lot more enjoyable so.Lesley Logan 12:17  We also get to like, see places now, because and we have the dogs, well, now we just have one dog. We should tell them funny stories about the dogs before we wrap this episode up. But we like make sure that they get walks, and we take it through really beautiful habitat preservations that allow for dog walking. We get to see some really cool thing.Brad Crowell 12:33  We stopped in Kansas by, like, one of those big tank memorials and threw the ball. I mean, you know, like this, all these things that we do. Then the Winter Tour 2024 with the support of Balanced Body. And we had some other sponsors, too. Yeah, we had 21 locations, 21 stops. But in order to meet these new requirements of no more than six days in a row of teaching, how do we drive eight hours or less a day? How do we make sure that we've got time to do some workouts. By the way, we're interested in seeing White Sands National Park on this trip. Can we do that, you know, like stuff like that. How do we work all that in? Well, it ended up making, making the trip 34, 35 days. But we actually went the longest. We drove 80, over 8000 miles. Lesley Logan 13:17  Yeah, we got to go to some great places. And also, if you're like, this sounds so amazing, guys, everything works out for you. Just so you know, pretty much every tour there was a dud city.Brad Crowell 13:24  Oh yeah, we had to cancel. It would have been 22 cities on the Winter Tour, and we, unfortunately, had to pull one because we just had no one participate.Lesley Logan 13:33  And we and talk about like the last time was that perseverance, we paid people to scour emails and Instagram handles for three hour drive away to be like, okay, well, what if we get these people from this state to come in? What if this people from this state come in? They could do with this. Brad Crowell 13:47  I mean, I would drive and just call, literally, I would call studio after studio after studio. Lesley Logan 13:51  And we had people say, and it was a lovely house. And she's like, no, people are just last minute. We're like, girl, it's 48 hours before. This is as last minute as we, no, we're not driving up there. So again, we don't take it personally. It sucks. We always do reflect, like, what could we have done better? Was it the time of day? You know, we've had cities that have done really, really well two years in a row, and then have a dud year, and we're like, oh, what happened there? And it's like, oh. So this next Winter Tour, we're flipping two cities because we're like, oh, you know, we did them before Christmas and then after Christmas. And this year we switched that, and that didn't go well for either one of them. So you start to learn the seasons of things, and you have to know that it's not personal, but the reflecting after every tour really helps us make each tour even better. And we're six weeks, five weeks away from our eighth tour, and it's gonna be epic. It's gonna be amazing. It almost feels like a vacation.Brad Crowell 14:38  A little bit more time-condensed, so we're a little over three weeks, but we're at doing almost 19 stops. So that's, that's intense. Lesley Logan 14:46  Three of them include Canada.Brad Crowell 14:48  Yeah. So we're, we're doing our best here to get to do our first international tour. I mean, we are going, so. Lesley Logan 14:55  We're going. Just so you know, these tours also are a huge investment. There's a reason why we have a sponsor with Balanced Body. They really help us actually be on the road for that long because when you're on the road for that many weeks, you're having three plus meals a day on the road. All that adds up money, the gas, depending on what state you're in, is insane, right? So there's that we do. We try not to use a hotel at this point because we have the van, the investment we've made in the van, you know, to make it so we can live in all of that kind of costs money. And so there are things that have failed on tours where, like, like, those stops that haven't made money or haven't, haven't, had been canceled, but having a sponsor that allows us to, like, really be on the road for that long, so that we can do these stops and we can see all of you, but to get to Canada, we're investing thousands of dollars to make it happen.Brad Crowell 15:41  Yeah, had to pay an attorney to help us with paperwork and it was like. Lesley Logan 15:44  Because you can't just work wherever you want to work. You can't just do that. So we're super, super excited to be one of the first people that actually do a big Pilates event. There have been other Pilates events in Canada. I don't want to discount those ones that are happening in Balanced Bodies in Montreal.Brad Crowell 15:59   It's like, it's the thing that's exciting about this is it'll be our first international tour. Lesley Logan 16:03  Yes, yes. I know people are like, when are you going to do a European tour? So I used to think it was like two years away after what we're doing for Canada. You guys, I gonna tell you right now, that's a five year plan. Because, like. Brad Crowell 16:13  Yeah, we so we're thinking about, how could we do this, you know, in Europe and Australia. Because, like, eventually for us, that's the vision. We want to go see those places. We want to spend the time, I think, for us to drive around Australia, to do it right, it's going to take us five to six weeks of driving, like, that's a lot. Lesley Logan 16:28  And we're going to have to rent a van there. We're certainly not going to take one. I was thinking about put some magnets on it. But also, there are actual laws about what we can do, and we don't do these things quietly. So, so if you live in Australia or Europe, and you want us to do tours there, you should definitely reach out. We keep a list of people who love to host. And we do need hosts. These tours, they happen when there's hosts. But also, and that goes for anyone in the States as well. You can actually put your place on there. But also, we're gonna need legal help, because, like we're talking immigration attorney help, which is not cheap, by the way, very expensive, so that we can actually do these things. So what we thought would be like in two years, I'm realizing, is probably a few years in the making. But we want to make this happen. We want to be part of it. That's why we're actually telling you the behind the scenes on how these tours work. So opc.me/tour is where you go for tickets, but opc.me/host is where you go to apply to be a host. Okay, so funny stories about the dogs. First of all, we used to do these tours with three dogs. Brad Crowell 17:29  Three. Lesley Logan 17:30  And then Gaia's last tour was Summer Tour 2024. Brad Crowell 17:33  Well, her first last tour. Lesley Logan 17:35  Her first last tour was Winter 2022. Brad Crowell 17:38  So, was it winter? Lesley Logan 17:40  Oh, yeah, Winter Tour 2022. Brad Crowell 17:42  It was Winter Tour, you're right.Lesley Logan 17:43  And then it was, her first last tour was Summer 2023 then her second last tour was, was winter 2023 and then. Brad Crowell 17:52  Her actual last tour was Summer '24. Lesley Logan 17:53  You guys, before we started, she, you guys, she did not want to go. We were, the van was loaded up, the boys were in it. The boys, because the boys, once we start loading the, putting stuff up to load in. They are like, in the van. Brad Crowell 18:03  Yeah, they do not want to be left behind, so they're sitting in the van watching us. Lesley Logan 18:07  It is hot as fuck outside. And they're like, no, I need to be in the van. I'm like, okay, but the doors are wide open. I can't be in the van. And they're freaking out. They're, they're just, you know, very nervous. And she, so we have the whole van loaded up. The boys are in the van. We go Gaia, and she comes and looks at the door.Brad Crowell 18:22  She comes out onto the front porch, stares at us. Lesley Logan 18:26  And she goes back inside. Brad Crowell 18:27  Turns around and goes back in the house. She's like nuh-uh.Lesley Logan 18:30  And we forced her, we forced her to go on this tour. And she was at this point, sleeping 20 hours a day, just anyways, she was having a hard time with her back legs. We're carrying her everywhere, which we've been doing the last two tours. Brad Crowell 18:41  And we had to lift her in and out of the van. Lesley Logan 18:42  Lift her in the van, and then, okay, so on this her on her final, final, last tour, she had an accident in the bed, and that was really unfortunate, because we're on the road now. We've got a dog, but that has to get washed. We don't always have time for a, like, a wash and, like, I don't know what you call this, like a fluff and fold. So I'm in Kansas City teaching a class, and while I'm teaching, Brad leaves to go bathe her. So he finds a place that he can bathe her, and he has to leave because it's hot out. He has to leave.Brad Crowell 19:12  So the timing of things, we have a very tight timeline. Lesley Logan 19:16  He leaves the car running with the dogs in the van and the boys. Brad Crowell 19:20  Wait. So, hold on. You're teaching the class. You're teaching the workshop. I have, literally, I have 90 minutes to get up and out, find a place, turn it around, wash the dog, get back. Right?Lesley Logan 19:34  Yeah. So he pulls up to this dog place. Brad Crowell 19:37  Well, the first one I pulled up to, it says on Google Maps that they have a thing in there to wash them. They don't. And I was like, are you, are you kidding? I just wasted 10 minutes coming all the way over here, and you don't have what I need. Lesley Logan 19:49  Yeah, so, so then he now has to go the next one, right? So he goes to the next one. He leaves the car running because it's hot out. It's like 90 something degrees. He leaves it running. And the boys are in the passenger seat, watching Brad take Gaia into the van. They're not okay with this. The pack is not together, somehow, though, while he's washing Gaia, so she's in this tub. Brad Crowell 20:10  So they're in the van, I'm in the store. But the the van's running so that the AC could be blasting. And August. Lesley Logan 20:18  Pressed the window button. Brad Crowell 20:19  He goes to the driver's seat, and shoves his nose, but he touches, he steps on the window button, and the window goes down, and sure enough. Lesley Logan 20:27  Jumps out. Brad Crowell 20:28  Two dogs jump out of the van. Lesley Logan 20:29  And they go up to the store, which has those doors that open by themselves. Brad Crowell 20:32  So before that happened, I'm in the back of the store, and I'm washing Gaia, right? She's covered in shit. All of a sudden, up at the front of the store, I hear, oh no, oh no, right, and this now there's multiple people yelling oh no. And then this lady's running down the store, and she's yelling, hey, sir, sir, I think your dogs just got out of the van. I'm like, holding the hose, and it's one of those timer things. So, like, I'm like, all right, I guess I'm gonna have to get more of that once I figure this other thing out. So I throw the water that's already it's still coming out. I just throw it and like, I'm like, Gaia, you stay. And she's looking at me, like, how could I possibly go anywhere? Right? And so I'm running out towards the van right at the same exact time the double doors of this big dog store open, and both August and Bayon come running into the store.Lesley Logan 21:21  Yeah, they ran into the store. So thankfully, they ran into the store and not, like, down the street. I don't even know what we would have done. At any rate.Brad Crowell 21:28  Yeah, I was, like, I was, because there was a parking lot. Like, there was hundreds of cars. It would have been terrible. Lesley Logan 21:33  Yeah. So they ran into the store, so Brad has to get them. Brad Crowell 21:36  So now I got all three dogs in the back, in the dog washing area, because I'm like, screw it. You guys are with me now. We're just gonna all hang out here. Finish washing Gaia. I blow dry Gaia down. And they were like, hey, can we get you a leash? Because the leashes were in the van. It wasn't like that, you know, so, and I was like, that would be so helpful. So they helped me, like, get the dogs on a leash. And, you know, we troop out of it, and everyone's happy because, you know, the dogs came to be with the pack. Lesley Logan 22:04  Yeah, so. Brad Crowell 22:06  Oh, and then I had to zip back just in time for the end of the workshop so that I could do the raffle. Lesley Logan 22:10  And I'm like, wrapping up this workshop, and he's not there. And I'm like, where the fuck is he? Because I can't, I don't know what I'm raffling off like I had to check people into this next thing. I had no idea this was going on. Anyways, oh my God. So this tour we. Brad Crowell 22:24  Chaos. Lesley Logan 22:25  This tour will be not chaotic. Future tours will not be chaotic because we have one dog. Brad Crowell 22:30  Yes, he's very chill. He just wants to lay next to you.Lesley Logan 22:33  He's very chill. Just wants to lay down. He wants to just be there. So I think it was so this is where we're at. No more shenanigans. Real easy. Roll in, roll out. You guys. We have two tours this year. We have a summer tour in the West Coast, into Canada. Please tell your friends, come make a trip out of it. We're doing some really cool cities. We're going to places you're going to want to travel to, and obviously, East Coast, the South check our Winter Tour list. And if you are living anywhere in the world and you want a tour stop, feel free to go to opc.me/host but opc.me/tour get tickets for you and your friends.Brad Crowell 23:06  If you want a tour stop, meaning you would like to host us, go to opc.me/host. If you would like information about the tour itself, go to opc.me/tour.Lesley Logan 23:16  And all of the classes and workshops are for all levels, so your friends and your family can come. These are not made to be only for teachers. There are CECs for the teachers. And again, our headlining sponsor for these next two tours is Balanced Body and Contrology. Oh, and now we have a contour kit, because we're bringing a Reformer, a mat and a Spine Corrector, so you guys can try those things out.Brad Crowell 23:40  Not a chair? Lesley Logan 23:41  No, we didn't buy the chair. Brad Crowell 23:42  Oh, I thought we did.Lesley Logan 23:44  No, we talked about that. Brad Crowell 23:44  All right, failed. Well, that's fine.Lesley Logan 23:47  I would love another chair. But we discussed that. Brad Crowell 23:50  It is big. It's just a lot.Lesley Logan 23:53  We discussed it. It was not the right thing to buy it until the van's more set up,Brad Crowell 23:58  Yeah. So anyway, come try out all that fun stuff. So what would you say would be a Be It Action Item for this episode? Lesley Logan 24:06  Oh, just go buy a ticket to our upcoming tour, because you're gonna have the best time. You're gonna be in community. If you feel lonely, or if you feel burnt out, or if you feel exhausted, then you come on this tour and you, I fill your cup. I prioritize you, I answer your questions. You get to see people you pass as two ships. You get to maybe meet up with people you had no idea love Pilates the same way you do. These literally bring people together. And it doesn't matter how you started Pilates, how many years been doing Pilates, if you teach who trained you. I don't give a fuck. Being in community is the be it action item. It's important.Brad Crowell 24:45  Cool. So my Be It Action Item is when it comes to projects like this, don't be afraid to make changes after you've decided this is how it should work, right, because, for example, if we didn't sell tickets to a spot why are we driving there, right? And that's a bummer, and that's frustrating, but you have to be able to be fluid enough to make changes in the moment when something isn't working or isn't making sense, or not necessarily in the moment, you have to catch it, you can assess it after the fact and do the post mortem, right? For example, from the Summer Tour '24 to the Winter Tour '24 we decided you clearly shouldn't be teaching nine days in a row. That is not healthy, right? So therefore we put a hard stop six days maximum on the way out to Philadelphia. We only taught one stint of six days. Everything else was five, four days in a row before we took a day off on the way back from Philadelphia, same thing, we only had one stint of six days because we were making adjustments and making changes. So, yeah, but I still agree with you that you should come join us because of community. It is so important, especially now with our virtual world, with loneliness being higher than it's ever been, with social media not helping any of us actually function in our own lives. Even though we've been sold this story that somehow it's gonna connect us better, it fucking doesn't, and it's just making us lonelier. So what we're trying to do is actually bring together people in real life, so that we can support each other and be around each other, because we need it. So we would love to meet you, come join us on these tours. Brad Crowell 26:22  Yes, all right, loves, until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 26:25  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 26:27  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 27:10  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 27:15  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 27:19  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 27:26  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 27:30  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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