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Gangland Wire
From Capone to Colombo: A Violent History of the Mafia

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In this episode of Gangland Wire, host Gary Jenkins, retired Kansas City Police Intelligence Unit detective, continues his deep dive into organized crime history with prolific Mafia author Jeffrey Sussman. Sussman, the author of eight books on organized crime, joins Jenkins for a wide-ranging conversation that spans the rise, violence, prosecutions, and survival tactics of La Cosa Nostra in America. Drawing from works like Backbeat Gangsters and his latest release Mafia Hits, Misses Wars and Prosecutions, Sussman offers sharp insight into how the Mafia enforced silence, eliminated enemies, and adapted to government pressure. The discussion opens with omertà, the Mafia's infamous code of silence, and how mob warfare enforced loyalty through fear. Sussman recounts notorious hits and mob wars that shaped organized crime, then shifts to landmark prosecutions led by Thomas Dewey, whose relentless pursuit of Murder Incorporated dismantled the mob's most feared execution squad. Jenkins and Sussman examine the disastrous Appalachian Conference, where Vito Genovese overplayed his hand, drawing national attention to the Mafia and setting the stage for informants like Joe Valachi to break decades of secrecy. The episode also explores the Mafia's darkest execution methods, including lupara bianca—murders designed to leave no body and no evidence—along with chilling stories involving Mad Sam DeStefano. The assassination attempt on Joe Colombo, and its ties to Joey Gallo, highlight how ego and publicity often proved fatal in the mob world. The episode concludes with Sussman previewing his upcoming book on the Garment District, blending personal family history with organized crime's grip on American industry. Together, Jenkins and Sussman deliver a sweeping, chronological look at how the Mafia rose, fractured, and endured—leaving a permanent mark on American culture. Get his book Mafia Hits, Misses, Wars, and Prosecutions. ⏱️ Episode Chapters 00:00 – Introduction and Jeffrey Sussman's Mafia work 03:45 – Omertà and enforcing silence 07:30 – Mafia hits and internal wars 12:10 – Thomas Dewey and Murder Incorporated 18:40 – St. Valentine's Day Massacre 23:30 – Formation of the Five Families 28:50 – Italian and Jewish mob alliances 34:20 – Capone, Lansky, and Luciano 39:45 – Appalachian Conference fallout 45:10 – Vito Genovese and Joe Valachi 50:30 – Lupara blanca and body disposal 55:20 – Mad Sam DeStefano's brutality 59:40 – Joe Colombo assassination 1:05:30 – Betrayal and mob survival 1:10:50 – Sussman's upcoming Garment District book   [0:00] Hey, welcome, all you Wiretipers, back here in the studio of Gangland Wire, as you can see. This is Gary Jenkins, retired Kansas City Police Intelligence Unit detective and later sergeant. I have a guest today. He is a prolific author about the mob in the United States. We have several interviews in the archives with Jeffrey Sussman. Welcome, Jeffrey. Thank you, Gary. It’s a pleasure to be with you once again. All right. How many mob books you got? Eight or nine, I think. Eight or nine. I know you’ve covered Tinseltown, the L.A. Families, the crime in L.A., the Chicago. What are some of those? I did Las Vegas, which had a number of the Chicago outfit members in it. I did Big Apple Gangsters. Oh, yeah. My last one was Backbeat Gangsters about the rock music business. Oh, yeah. And then I did also one about boxing and the mob, how the mob controlled boxing. And then my new book is Mafia Hits, Misses Wars and Prosecutions. The update is February 19th. All right. Guys, when I release this, we’re doing this, actually, we’re doing this before Christmas. But when this comes out, while you’ll be able to go to the Amazon link that I’ll have in there, get that book, we’ll have, you’ll see a picture of it as we go along. So you’ll know what the cover looks like. It sounds really interesting, especially about the Mafia Misses. But I’m sure that’s interesting. [1:29] Well, the mob, that’s their way of enforcing their rules. The omerta, somebody talks, they’re going to rub you out, supposedly. And by mob, we’re talking about primarily La Cosa Nostra, Sicilian-based organized crime in the United States. Yeah. The five families particularly have brought this up front. The five families have really perfected this as an art, killing their rivals, killing people that threaten them in any way, killing people that they even had a contract on Tom Dewey, the prosecutor, I believe, at one time. That would be a bomb miss, wouldn’t it? Yeah, actually, what happened with that is Dutch Schultz wanted the commission to take out a contract on Tom Dewey, and they said, no, we can’t do that, because if we do that, it’ll bring down too much heat on us. And so the mob wound up killing Dutch Schultz because he was too much of a threat to them in some ways. But the irony was that if they had killed him, Lucky Luciano never would have been prosecuted. He was prosecuted by Thomas Dewey. Lucky Bookhalter never would have been prosecuted and gone to the electric chair, several others as well. So, by not killing Dewey, they set themselves up to be arrested and get either very long prison terms or go to the electric chair. [2:57] Yeah, Dewey sent, I think it was four members of Murder Incorporated to the electric chair and the head of it, the Lepke book halter. And then he arrested and got a conviction against Lucky Luciano for pimping and pandering, which should have been a fairly short sentence, just a couple of years. But he had him sentenced to 50 years in prison, which is amazing, the pimping. [3:20] So if they had killed Thomas Dewey, they probably would have been better off. But that’s 2020 hindsight. Yeah, hindsight’s always 2020. And a cost-benefit analysis, if you want to apply that, why the cost of killing Tom Dooley might have been much less than the actual benefit was. That’s right. Exactly. And they came to realize that, but it was too late for them. I think they always do a cost-benefit analysis in some manner. How much heat’s going to come down from this? Can we take the heat? Because I know in Kansas City, our mob boss, Nick Savella, was in the penitentiary. He was about to get out, and he sent word out, said I want all unfinished business taken care of by the time I get out. Because when I get out, I do not want all these headlines, because murder generates headlines. And so there was like three murders in rapid succession right after that. [4:13] So they worry about the press and hits, murders generate press. So let’s go back and talk about some particular ones. One of the most famous ones was the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre. Do you cover that? [4:26] Yeah, I start with the assassination of Arnold Rothstein in 1928, and then I go right into the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre. I go into the Castel Marari’s War, the birth of the five families. They had a famous meeting at the Franconia Hotel where the Jewish and Italian gangsters decided to form an alliance rather than fight one another. I went through the trial and conviction of Al Capone, the Bug and Meyer gang. Which evolved into Murder Incorporated, and then how Mayor LaGuardia went after the mob in New York and drove out Frank Costello, who had all the slot machines in New York, drove him down to Louisiana, where Frank Costello paid Huey Long a million dollars to let him operate slot machines all around New Orleans and the rest of Louisiana. And then there was William Dwyer, O’Dwyer, and Burton Turkus, who prosecuted the mob, other members of Murder Incorporated, and then how the federal government was using deportation to get rid of a lot of the mobsters, and how the mafia insinuated itself with entertainers and was controlling entertainers like Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis and others. [5:44] And then the Appalachian Conference, and what an embarrassment that was to Vito Genovese, who wanted to declare himself the boss of bosses. Instead, he became the schmuck of schmucks because the FBI invaded this. And there was a theory that this was really set up, Meyer Lansky, Carl Gambino, and Lucky Luciano, because they didn’t want Vito Genovese to become the boss of bosses because Vito Genovese was responsible for the attempted murder of Frank Costello, and they wanted to get rid of him. After they embarrassed him with Appalachian, And then they set him up for a drug buy. Which is ridiculous because you don’t have the head of a mafia family going out on the street and buying heroin from someone. But that’s what they got him for. And they sent him off to prison for 15 years where he died. But in the realm of unintended consequences, which we just heard some, he goes down to Atlanta and a guy named Joe Valacci is down there. And he thinks that Vito Genovese is given to the fisheye and maybe wants to have him killed. [6:52] If Vito Genovese is not in Atlanta, Joe Valacci does not turn and become the first big important witness against the mob in the United States that couple that with Appalachian. And embarrassment to the FBI and then this Joe Valacci coming out with all these stories explaining what all that meant, the organized crime in the United States, why we may not have the investigation that subsequently came out of all that. It’s crazy, huh? Yeah, exactly. In terms of unintended consequences, because if Vito Genovese hadn’t given the kiss of death, supposedly, to Joe Valacci, you never would have had Joe Valacci’s testimony about how the mob operates. He opened so many doors and told so many secrets. It was a real revelation to the world. [7:42] Now, what about these murders? And I understand they call them a lupara blanca, where the body is never found. Did you talk about any of those or look into that at all? [7:53] We’ve had them in Kansas City, where it’s obviously a mob murder. They even will send a message to the family. We had one where the guy disappeared. Nobody ever found his body. But somebody called the family and said, hey, go up on Gladstone Drive and check this trash can. And then they find the guy’s clothes and his driver’s license, everything in there. Now, did you go into any of those blanks? Yeah, there were a number of mob hits, especially during the murder ink era where they would dispose of the bodies and no one would ever find them. But they would leave clues around for members of the family just so they would know that their father or their son or their brother, whoever was no longer in this world. [8:39] Yeah, that was done quite a bit. And when the Westies, which was an Irish gang that operated on the west side of New York, they believed that if you never found the corpse, you could never convict them of murder. So they used to take their dead bodies out to an island in the East River and chop them into little pieces and then dump them in the river and no one would ever find them. And supposedly they did that with dozens and dozens of bodies. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, and it is. It’s hard to prosecute without the body. It’s been done, but it’s really hard to do. You’ve got to have a really lot of circumstantial evidence to approve a murder without a body. And when Albert Anastasia and Leffy Foucault, who were running Murder Incorporated, they believed two things. One, that if you didn’t find the body, it would be hard to prosecute. And if you couldn’t show a motive, that would be the other thing that would make it difficult. So there would be absolutely no connection between the person who killed the victim and the victim. There was no connection whatsoever. So it was almost as if it was a stranger. In fact, it was a stranger who would commit the murder and then disappear and make sure that the body also disappeared. So you’d have neither motive nor body. Interesting. Pretty stiff penalty for murder. So I understand why you take some extra. Exactly. [10:08] Yeah, that tried to disassociate yourself from any motive for the body. There’s a guy in Chicago named Mad Sam DeStefano. Oh, sure. Lone shark and particularly egregious person when it came to collecting and was responsible for some murders and tortures. And they claim that he would buddy up to the person he knew he wanted to have killed and give him a watch. So then when the police came back around, he’d say, he was my friend. I gave him a present. I gave him that watch. Look and see. Ask his wife. I gave him a watch. Yeah. And I think it was Anthony Spolatro who was charged by the outfit of getting rid of Sam DiStefano because he was a friend. He had been like a protege of Crazy Sam. And so Sam didn’t suspect him as the person who would come and kill him. Yeah, that’s common clue. They say, look out. When a friend comes around and it seems a little bit funny and they want her particularly nice to you and you know you’re in trouble, anyhow, look out. Because that’s the guy that’s going to get you. Exactly. At least set you up. Maybe they have somebody else come in and pull the trigger, somebody that’ll leave town or whatever, but your friend’s going to set you up, make you comfortable. [11:24] Yeah, I think that’s exactly how it happened. We talked a little bit about the Joe Colombo murder. Did you look at that? Yes. [11:31] Tell us about that, because I’m really interested in that. I’d kind of like to do a larger story, just focusing on that, what really happened there, because that’s a mystery. Did this Jerome Johnson, this black guy, do it? Why would he do it? Nobody ever came out and connected him directly to Joey Gallo, and that’s the claim. So talk about that one. What happened is Joe Colombo formed the Italian Anti-Defamation League because he thought Italians were being blamed for too many things. And Colombo was responsible for having the producers of the movie The Godfather never use the word mafia in the movie, never use La Cosa Nostra in the movie. And he was making a big splash for himself. And this was driving a lot of people in the mafia a little crazy. They’re getting nervous because he was getting so much attention for himself, and it’s not the kind of attention they wanted. And Gambino was particularly upset about this. And Joey Gallo had been in prison, and he had been involved in the war against Profaci earlier on. And when he got out of prison, he felt that the new head of the Profaci family, who was Joe Colombo, should honor him with the amount of time that he spent in prison. And Joe Colombo offered him $1,000. [12:57] And Gallo was incensed by that. He expected $100,000. [13:02] And so he started another war with Colombo. [13:09] This would be good for Carlo Gambino because then he could use Joey Gallo to get rid of someone and his hands wouldn’t appear to be anywhere near this. And when Joey Gallo was in prison, he befriended a lot of black gangsters who were drug dealers and showed them how to succeed in the drug dealing business. And his attitude was that the mafia was very prejudiced against black people, but he thought that was stupid. He thought that we should use black criminals the same way we use any other criminals. And so he befriended a lot of blacks when he was in prison. And no one really knows how exactly he came in contact with Jerome Johnson. But anyway, Jerome Johnson was given the mission of assassinating Joe Colombo at a demonstration where Joe Colombo would be speaking about the Italian American Anti-Defamation League, which had attracted a lot of entertainers. Frank Sinatra was on the board of it. They raised a lot of money. I spoke to some Italian friends of mine at the time, and they said that people from the Italian Anti-Defamation League went around to small Italian-run stores, pizza parlors, shoe repair stores, whatever, and had them closed down for that day so that these people should attend the rally. And the rally was being held, I believe, in Columbus Circle. [14:36] And Jerome Johnson was there, and he had a press pass. So he was permitted to get very close to Joe Colombo because it appeared that he was a reporter or a photographer for a newspaper. And as soon as he got close enough, he pumped a couple of bullets into Joe Colombo’s head. Immediately, three or four gangsters descended on Jerome Johnson and killed him immediately. [15:02] And those three or four people who killed him, they disappeared into the crowd. No one ever found them again. I know. I wish we’d had cell phone footage from that. No one wouldn’t have gotten away if everybody had their cell phones out that day when they would have seen everything that happened. [15:21] Exactly. Columbo existed in a vegetative state. I think it was for about seven years before he finally died. I didn’t realize it was that long. Wow. Yeah, but he was semi-conscious. He couldn’t communicate. He was paralyzed. But the The Colombo family believed that it was Joey Gallo who was responsible for this. Joey Gallo and his new wife had been having a dinner with friends at the Copacabana nightclub in New York. They were joined at their table by Don Rickles, who had been performing that night. Comedian David Steinberg, who had been the best man at Joey Gallo’s wedding to a second wife, was there. And he suggested to them that they left the Copacabana about three o’clock in the morning. And he suggested to them that they all go down to Little Italy, go to Chinatown, and we’ll have a late dinner there. So Rick Olson and Steinberg said, it’s too late for us. You go and enjoy yourself and we’ll see you another time. Joey Gallo, his bodyguard, a Greek guy, I can’t remember his name exactly. Peter Dacopoulos. That’s it. And his wife, and Decapolis’ girlfriend and Joey Gallo’s stepdaughter. They all drove downtown. They couldn’t find anything open in Chinatown, so they drove over to Little Italy, and they went into Umberto’s Clam House. [16:49] And it was very strange, because supposedly a gangster would never do this. Joe Colombo was sitting with his back to the door. [16:58] Usually, your back is to the wall, and you’re facing the door. Oh, Joey Gallo was sitting with his back to the door. Yeah, I meant Joey Gallo. Yeah. Go ahead. And there was kind of a lonely guy sitting at the bar having a drink, and no one paid any attention to him. He was a mob wannabe, and he recognized Joey Gallo, and he went to a mob social club that was a few blocks away that was a hangout for Colombo gangsters. And when he came in and told them that joey gallo was there and the one of the guys there called a capo from the colombo family and told him who they saw and so forth and apparently he instructed them to go and get rid of him and so they took the mob wannabe guy and they got in two cars and they drove down to or around the block whatever it was to umberto’s clam house they went in and they immediately started shooting. And Colombo flipped over the table. I’m sorry, Joey Gallo flipped over the table and had his wife and girlfriend in the step door to get behind the table. And he and Peter were firing back at these guys. [18:07] Peter got shot in the ass and complained about it for many months afterwards, and Joey Gallo ran out onto the street chasing them, and he got shot in the neck, and I think it hit his carotid artery, and he bled to death on the sidewalk. And the guys from the Columbo and the Columbo wannabe guy, they quickly drove up to an apartment on the Upper East Side where the Columbo capo was. And he told them to go to a safe house in Nyack, New York, where they went. And meanwhile, the mob wannabe guy who had fingered Columbo, he’s getting very nervous. He feels that his life isn’t worth too much. He’s in over his head. [18:51] Right. So he sneaks out in the middle of the night and takes a plane to California to live with his sister. And he tries to get into the witness protection program, but they don’t believe him. They don’t believe he has enough evidence to make it worthwhile. No one knows exactly what happened to him afterwards. And the guys who supposedly killed Gallo, nothing really happened to them either. There was a huge funeral for Joey Gallo in Brooklyn. And it was like one of those old mob funerals that you see in a movie with a hundred flower cars and people lining the streets. And I think it was Joey Gallo’s mother who threw herself into the grave on top of the coffin. Oh, really? And Joey Gallo’s. [19:38] He had two brothers, one of whom had died of cancer, and the other one wound up going into another mob family. That was part of the peace deal. I can’t remember if it was the Gambino family or the Genovese family. He went into one of those two families. I think it was Gambino family, that Albert Kidd Twist gallo, I think was his name. And I think it was the Gambino family. He just kept a low profile until he died of natural causes. I think he’s dead now. He never heard from him again, basically. Exactly. [20:06] Interesting. That’s a heck of a story. A lot more stories like that in there, too. I bet. What was your favorite story out of that, or the one that shocked you or you learned something? Maybe something that you learned that you didn’t know or cut through some myth. [20:20] Probably, I’m just looking at my notes here to see what really fascinated me the most. I think the evolution of the Bug and Meyer gang. This guy, Ralph Salerno, who was a fascinating guy who headed the New York Prime Strike Force, Mafia investigators He’s been dead for about I think 10 or 15 years But I spent about Two or three hours Interviewing him A long time ago Didn’t he write a book Didn’t he write a book Called The Crime Confederation Or something like that Yes he did Yeah And it’s excellent So he knew Meyer Lansky He had met Bugsy Siegel Back once In the early 1940s He knew Frank Costello He knew all of these people And it was fascinating To, to hear his stories. And he said that during the time of the Bug and Meyer gang, they were the most vicious gang in New York. And they had a complete menu for crimes that they would commit on your behalf. Burglaries, murders, throwing people out of windows, breaking arms and legs, killing by stabbing, killing by shooting, killing by knifing. And each one had a price. And he said they actually had it printed. It was like a menu and you could check off what you wanted. [21:40] Crazy. And then he said, as they got more and more involved in prohibition, they got out of this and it evolved into Murder Incorporated, which had about 400 members, primarily Jewish and Italian gangsters. And it was run by Albert Anastasia and Lepke Bookhalter. [22:05] And when Thomas Dewey came into power, he wanted very much to convict these guys, but, Murder Incorporated had this fascinating idea that every member of Murder Incorporated would receive a monthly retainer and then it paid a special price for committing murders. And the more ambitious the member was, the more murders he would commit. So there were a couple who were really very ambitious and did a lot of murders. And each one had a specialty. So there was this one guy named Abe Hidtwist Relis, who only killed people with an ice pick in the back of the neck. And then he would leave the body in a car, talking about getting rid of bodies, and he would burn the body and leave it in the car and let other people know who were the relatives that he had been done away with. And then there was a guy named Pittsburgh Phil, who was the most ambitious of them, who supposedly committed about 100 to 150 murders because he just loved getting money for each one that he committed. [23:15] Then there was a guy named Louis Capone, who’s no relation to Al. He worked with a partner named Mendy Weiss, and the two of them went out and killed people together. They thought it was a fun event for them. It was like a boy’s night out. Who we’re going to kill today. Weren’t they two of them that got the electric chair? Yes, they did. And there’s a picture of them on the train up to Singh on their way to the electric chair. And they’re laughing. This is nothing. This is just another fun time for us. And yeah, I think there were four of them who finally went to the electric chair. And then one member of this was a guy named Charlie the Bud Workman, who finally got indicted for the murder of Dutch Schultz. He was the one who carried out the murder of Dutch Schultz for the mob. And he got, I think he was 30 years in prison. But according to his son… [24:13] Who is a PGA golfer, who is well-known in PGA circles as a very good golf competitor, said that the mob took care of his family for the entire time that Workman was in prison because he never spoke about anybody else. He really observed the rules of a murder, and they appreciated him for that. So that whole episode was like a corporation murder, which is why they called it Murder, Inc., that would go out and kill people on orders only from the mafia. They only worked for the mafia. You couldn’t hire them if you weren’t a member of the mafia. And it had to go through a mafia boss for the instructions to come down to them. A soldier couldn’t tell them what to do. Even a capo couldn’t tell them. It had to go up to a boss, the boss had to approve it, and then assign someone to do it. And they all worked out of a candy store in Brooklyn called Midnight Roses because it was open 24 hours a day. And the phone would ring there from giving whoever it was instructions about who was to be killed, where they were to be killed, how they were to do it, and so forth and so on. [25:27] So what was also interesting is even though Bugsy Siegel had left the Bug and Meyer gang, he still loved participating in murder. He liked killing people. And his partner in these murders was a guy named Frankie Carbo, who became a big deal in boxing. He controlled most of the boxing in America up until at the time of Sonny Liston. And his partner in this was a man named Blinky Palermo. [25:59] And according to Ralph Natale, who for a while had been the boss of the Philadelphia crime family, it was Frankie Carbo who was sent by the mob to kill Bugsy Siegel. Because if he was caught or Bugsy Siegel saw him around, he wouldn’t suspect that he was his killer because they were friends and they had operated as partners together. So this goes back to what we were talking about earlier. It’s your friend who comes closest to you and then arranges you to be assassinated. So I found that whole story just fascinating. Interesting. I’ll tell you what. And there’s those and a whole lot more stories in this, isn’t there, Jeff? Yes, there are. I think that the book covers pretty much the mob history, beginning with the founding of the five families, going all the way up through Sammy the Bulgurvano’s testimony against John Gotti and the commission trial, where they decapitated the heads of the five families. Not literally, folks. Not literally. Not literally. We didn’t literally decapitate. Rudy Giuliano, he tried to. He tried to. He tried to. Metaphorically, he decapitated the heads of the five families. Exactly. [27:15] You know, what was interesting, though, is in the 1930s, you had Thomas Dewey. In the 1960s, you had Robert Kennedy, who went after the mob. And then later on, you had Rudy Giuliani going after the mob. And the mob always managed to reorganize itself and figure out a new way of existing. They were very opportunistic and they always managed to find a way to keep going, even if it was very low key, which is what it is now, where they operate in the shadows and they don’t have any John Gottis or Al Capone’s out there getting a lot of attention for themselves. They’re still out there doing things. Yeah. Yeah. They finally learned something about that getting publicity. And most recently, they put together a whole scheme, and this goes way back, of cheating people. Big whales, I call them whales, of rich men that like to gamble and brush up against kind of the dark side and cheat them at cards. They’ve been doing that for years. They just do it under goes to clear black to the Friars Club scam in Los Angeles where Ronnie Roselli and some others had a spotter, would see who had what cards in what’s hands, then would tell another player. And so now there’s just more electronic, but the same game just upgraded to electronics. [28:30] That’s right. What someone I spoke to interviewed said, he said they’re very involved in electronic gambling poker machines and that kind of thing. And a lot of offshore gambling and offshore money laundering. And to some extent, even drug dealing now. And they’re still very involved in New York in the construction business. Oh, really? Yeah. Union business. They’re still in it, huh? And I know in Kansas City, there’s a couple of examples where they put money into a buy here, pay here car dealership into a title loan place because there’s a huge rate of interest on those things. And there’s a lot of scams that go down out of those places, especially the old crap cars and put them together and sell them to poor people for they’ve got $500 in the car and they sell it to them for $2,000. They charge them a 25% interest and then go repo it when the car breaks down, turn around and patch it up and sell it again. So there’s always schemes going on out there to mob will put their money into. Oh, it’s incredible. I knew of one scheme where they would They would sell trucks to people and give them a special route. And so on that route, they could make enough money to pay off the loan on the truck. But then they would take away the route from them. They couldn’t pay off the truck. So they would repossess the truck and sell it to someone else and do it all over again. [29:50] Oh, I know. They got to tell you that. And Joey Messino and the Bananos, they organized the tow main wagons, the lunch truck, the snack wagons. Right, exactly. Organize them. And then they start extorting money, formed an association. And then to get to good spots, then you had to kick money to them. And just to be part of the organization, that was kicking money to them. There’s always something. They always manage to find a place where they can make money. And it’s like whack-a-mole. You can stop them here, you can stop them there, and then they pop up in three other places. [30:24] Really all right jeffrey susman i’m so happy to talk to you again i haven’t talked to you for a while and i hope everything else is everything’s going okay for you in new york city yep i’m working on a new book uh what are you working on now oh my god you are so prolific i look on your amazon page just when i was getting ready to do this trying to think of some of those other titles Oh, my God. I’m working on a book about the Garment Center. Ah, interesting. Only because my family was involved in that business, and they had to deal with the mob in various ways, with trucking companies, unions, and so forth. And since I knew that, and I had a lot of information, a lot of contacts, I thought I would tackle that next. I remember when I had my marketing PR business back in the 1970s. [31:16] I had a client who was in the fitness business, and I had a cousin of my mother’s who was a very famous dress designer at the time, and he had a big showroom on 7th Avenue, which is in the garment center. I went to see him because I wanted to see if I could get a deal for my client to manufacture exercise clothes and brand it with her name. I made a date to have lunch with this cousin of mine, and he said, come up to my showroom. we’ll meet for lunch, And so I got to the showroom, and I called out his name when I walked in. It was empty. And this guy comes running out of the back, and he just has a shirt on, and he has a shoulder holster, .38 caliber gun in it. And he says to me, who the F are you? I said, I’m so-and-so’s cousin. I’m here to have lunch with him. He disappeared into the back. And a couple of minutes later my mother’s cousin comes out and i said who was that what was that about he says i don’t want to talk about it now i’ll tell you all for lunch so we go down to a restaurant around the corner and i asked him again and he says he said he couldn’t have his dresses delivered to any department store unless he made a deal with yeah i forgot if it was the gambinos or the lucasies that he had to take this guy on as a partner otherwise the trucks wouldn’t deliver his garments. And there was nothing he could do about it. It was either that or go out of business. [32:45] I’ll tell you what, they’re voracious. They’re greedy and voracious and don’t care. Just give me those, show me the money. That’s all it is. It’s all about money and any way to get it. And then there’s always a threat of murder behind it. If you don’t cooperate, think of the worst thing that can happen to you. And that’s what’ll happen. Yeah. I’ve had guys over the years tell I’m like, oh, you ought to throw in with one of those ex-mobsters that’s doing podcasts and try to do something with them. I say, I ain’t doing business with them. They play by their rules. I play by society’s rules. And I don’t have time to mess with that. Yeah. And that was a smart thing to do. Because also, when I had this fitness client, I met someone who was… I didn’t know what was connected to the mob, but a mutual friend, this guy said that he wanted to set up fitness centers all around the country for my clients. So I mentioned this to a mutual friend and he said, whatever you don’t go into business with this guy, I said, regret it for the rest of your life. So I advised my client not to do it. [33:49] Yeah. Cause initially before we knew that it sounded like a great opportunity. And then when you investigate, it’s not such a great opportunity. Yeah, really. Speaking of that, we tell stories for hours. I just heard a story. We had a relocated mobster, a guy that testified against Gigante, came here to Kansas City. And he was, of course, under witness protection and he’s got an assumed name. And he befriends a guy that has a fitness center. He has a franchise of Gold’s Gym or something. And he has a fitness center. And he talks this guy into taking him on, investing a little money in it, taking him on as his partner. Within the next couple of years, this mobster, he’s got two of his kids working there and neither one of them are really doing anything, but they’re drawing a salary and the money’s trickling out. And the guy, the local guy, he just walks away from it because this guy’s planned by the mob’s rules. So he just ended up walking away from it, did something else. So it’s do not go into business with these guys. No, never. Never. [34:48] Jeffrey Suspett, it’s a pleasure to have you back on the show. Thank you so much. It’s a pleasure to be with you again, Gary. It’s always a pleasure. Thank you very much.

The Hollywood Godfather Video Podcast
S18|EP336 - Untold Stories: Lepke and Hollywood

The Hollywood Godfather Video Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 8, 2025 43:05


In this episode, Gianni takes on a listener's request to discuss the movie 'Lepke.' They delve into the authenticity of the film, sharing anecdotes from the set, including working with Tony Curtis and recounting historical facts about the characters. The conversation also touches on various mafia-related stories, including the notorious Murder Incorporated, and personal experiences from the hosts' colorful pasts. The episode is filled with fascinating real-life connections to historical figures and behind-the-scenes Hollywood tales, making it a captivating listen for fans of mafia and film history.

csúnyarosszmajom
#239 - Vakmerő lepke a rettegő mókus ellen

csúnyarosszmajom

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 19, 2025 89:05


Volt-e Mátyás királynak fogkeféje, hogyan ellenőrzik a kaszinókban a zsetonok eredetiségét, egy jó vagy egy rossz színészt nehezebb hitelesen eljátszani, igazolhatja-e az erőszakot egy igazságtalan rendszer elleni küzdelem, érdemes-e bármibe belekezdeni a mindent félbehagyó embernek, miért halkul el a tévé pár másodpercre a villany felkapcsolásától, miért van a tonikban cukor, együtt tudnánk-e maradni a párunkkal, ha megcsalt, hány éves korig tekinthető valaki középkorúnak, érdemes-e elbonyolítani a modern autómotorokat az alacsonyabb CO2 kibocsátás végett, egy hűtőborda ventillátorral hogyan hűt, van-e morális alapja egy külföldre szakadt magyarnak részt venni a magyar választáson, mit gondolnak a mókusok az emberekről, van-e tudományos alapja annak, hogy huzatot kap valamink, hogyan terjedt el a gamer szék, mit csinálnak a fodrászok a levágott hajjal, mit csinálnánk húsz kiló csipkebogyóval, létezett-e a huszadik század előtt dallamtapadás? Zene: Baloji - Spotlight & Miroir (feat. Marshall Dixon & Poison Mobutu)

George Perez Stories
Og Lepke, Once A Prisoner Now A Man Of God, Stops By For George Perez Stories EP: 380

George Perez Stories

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 10, 2025 113:12


Og Lepke, a man that has been through the roughest streets in life has stopped by to talk to George Perez, Tommy 3 Plates, Side Dick Eddy, and Johnny Roque. He breaks down growing up and overcoming the system. We take some live call ins too that surprises everyone. Leave a comment and rate this podcast.

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The Hollywood Godfather Video Podcast
Season 16 - Episode 297 - Beyond the Godfather-Gianni Russo's Career in Film and TV

The Hollywood Godfather Video Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 11, 2024 54:10


In this episode, we take a deep dive into the fascinating acting career of Gianni Russo, which began with his unforgettable role as Carlo Rizzi in the Godfather. From there, Gianni carved out a unique path in Hollywood appearing in iconic films like Striptease, Any Given Sunday, Seabiscuit, The Freshman, and Lepke to name a few. His talents extended to TV as well, with roles in The Rockford Files, Jake and the Fatman, Prison Break and many more. Join us as we explore the highlights of Gianni's dynamic career on both the big and the small screens.

The Hollywood Godfather Video Podcast
Season 16 - Episode 297 - Beyond the Godfather-Gianni Russo's Career in Film and TV

The Hollywood Godfather Video Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 11, 2024 54:10


In this episode, we take a deep dive into the fascinating acting career of Gianni Russo, which began with his unforgettable role as Carlo Rizzi in the Godfather. From there, Gianni carved out a unique path in Hollywood appearing in iconic films like Striptease, Any Given Sunday, Seabiscuit, The Freshman, and Lepke to name a few. His talents extended to TV as well, with roles in The Rockford Files, Jake and the Fatman, Prison Break and many more. Join us as we explore the highlights of Gianni's dynamic career on both the big and the small screens.

SLEERICKETS
Ep 162: The Train There's No Getting Off, ft. Derek Mong

SLEERICKETS

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 19, 2024 82:26


SLEERICKETS is a podcast about poetry and other intractable problems. My book Midlife now exists. Buy it here, or leave it a rating here or hereFor more SLEERICKETS, check out the SECRET SHOW and join the group chatLeave the show a rating here (actually, just do it on your phone, it's easier). Thanks!Wear SLEERICKETS t-shirts and hoodies. They look good!SLEERICKETS is now on YouTube!Some of the topics mentioned in this episode:– When the Earth Flies into the Sun by Derek Mong– At Length magazine– 32 Poems No 43. Summer 2024– There by Christopher Childers– I Too Had a Childhood by Eleanor Stanford– One of two poems of mine in the new 32 Poems– The part in Tree of Life where (among other things) Jessica Chastain flies– Marjorie Perloff's review of The Birthday Letters– The Two Ariels: The (Re)making of the Sylvia Plath Canon by Marjorie Perloff– Ariel by Sylvia Plath– Ariel: The Restored Edition– Birthday Letters by Ted Hughes– Sylvia (2003)– Pike by Ted Hughes– Sharon Olds– Anne Sexton– Deborah Landau– Metaphors by Sylvia Plath– Adrienne Rich– Helen Vendler– Daddy by Sylvia Plath– Lady Lazarus by Sylvia Plath– Nick and the Candlestick by Sylvia Plath– A Secret by Sylvia Plath– You're by Sylvia Plath– William Heyen– Swoop by Hailey Leithauser– Transformations by Anne Sexton– Kevin Young– Life Studies by Robert Lowell– Memories of West Street and Lepke by Robert Lowell– 13 Reasons Why (2017)– Wintering by Sylvia Plath– A rough approximation of a store in my town– Purdah by Sylvia Plath– Sheep in Fog by Sylvia Plath– Honey's Dead by The Jesus and Mary Chain– Shaken Baby SyndromeFrequently mentioned names:– Joshua Mehigan– Shane McCrae– A. E. Stallings– Ryan Wilson– Morri Creech– Austin Allen– Jonathan Farmer– Zara Raab– Amit Majmudar– Ethan McGuire– Coleman Glenn– Alexis Sears– JP Gritton– Alex Pepple– Ernie Hilbert– Joanna PearsonOther Ratbag Poetry Pods:Poetry Says by Alice AllanI Hate Matt Wall by Matt WallVersecraft by Elijah BlumovRatbag Poetics By David Jalal MotamedAlice: Poetry SaysBrian: @BPlatzerCameron: CameronWTC [at] hotmail [dot] comMatthew: sleerickets [at] gmail [dot] comMusic by ETRNLArt by Daniel Alexander Smith

STREET GOSPEL PODCAST
Ep 86: “Big Fish” ft. OG Lepke

STREET GOSPEL PODCAST

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 13, 2024 112:37


In this episode we sit down with the one and only OG Lepke. We talk about how a Jewish/Italian kid adopted a Chicano street lifestyle, growing up in different parts of LA, addiction, falling down and getting back up, helping others and how God is working incrementally in his life! All this and more! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/streetgospel/support

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Recruitment Down Under: The APSCo Australia Podcast
Revolutionising healthcare compliance with Benjamin Lepke

Recruitment Down Under: The APSCo Australia Podcast

Play Episode Play 58 sec Highlight Listen Later May 31, 2023 34:43


Welcome to Recruitment Down Under.In this podcast, APSCo Australia's Lesley Horsburgh talks with Benjamin Lepke about HealthPass, a newly created platform to collect data from candidates across the complex world of medical and health.The platform reduces the administrative burden required to work across different geographies and workplaces, and is revolutionising the way medical and health candidates are connecting with recruitment businesses.There's even scope for other recruitment sectors to utilise the technology.Please join us to hear how it's progressing, and where it's all headed.Thank you for listening to Recruitment Down Under.

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Life on Planet Earth
GODFATHER Actor GIANNI RUSSO: His Life in the Movies and the Mob; Early Childhood in Little Italy; Surviving Polio; Vatican Bank Courier, Frank Sinatra, Marilyn Monroe. Dustup with MARLIN BRANDO.

Life on Planet Earth

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 19, 2023 54:44


GIANNI RUSSO was born in Manhattan in 1943 and raised in the then close-knit Little Italy, and later Rosebank, Staten Island. After reprising Carlo Rizzi in a brief flashback scene at the end of The Godfather Part II, Russo acted in more than 46 films, including Goodnight, My Love (1972), Lepke (1975, as Albert Anastasia), Laserblast (1978), Chances Are (1989), The Freshman (1990), Side Out (1990), Another You (1991), Super Mario Bros. (1993), Any Given Sunday (1999) and Seabiscuit (2003). Russo claims that he started a fledgling career in organized crime working as an errand boy and mob associate for Frank Costello as an adolescent but later abandoned the dangerous and volatile lifestyle of organized crime. The Staten Island Mafioso Tommy Bilotti was reportedly best man at Russo's wedding. Since the beginning of his acting career, Russo owned a Las Vegas restaurant called Gianni Russo's State Street at 2570 State Street on the Las Vegas Strip (closed in 1988), and reportedly defeated 23 federal criminal indictments on a variety of charges stemming from alleged organized crime associations. Russo is also a singer. In 2004, he released a CD called Reflections that pays homage to Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra. Russo owns a wine brand, Gianni Russo Wines, which debuted in 2009. In 2019, he published his memoir, Hollywood Godfather: My Life in the Movies and the Mob. Listen to his podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/john-aidan-byrne0/support

Witness History
The first black music station in Europe

Witness History

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 3, 2023 9:03


In 1981, Rita Marley's brother Leroy Anderson aka Lepke launched the Dread Broadcasting Corporation (DBC), Europe's first dedicated black music station. Frustrated by the lack of airtime for reggae music in the UK, Lepke setup a mast in his back garden and began to broadcast to a small area of West London every Sunday afternoon. DBC soon expanded to cover all styles of black music and with its unmistakable logo featuring a dread with headphones and a spliff became a trailblazer for the future of black British radio in the UK. Neil Meads speaks to former DBC station manager Michael Williams about the early days of the station, and DJ Carmella Jervier explains how inspiring it was to finally hear black female DJs on the radio. (Photo: Dread Broadcasting Corporation. Credit: BBC)

Judaism Demystified | A Guide for Todays Perplexed
Episode 38: Rich Cohen "The Tough Jews of the Mafia"

Judaism Demystified | A Guide for Todays Perplexed

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2023 46:52


Rich Cohen is an American non-fiction writer. He is a contributing editor at Vanity Fair and Rolling Stone. He is co-creator, with Martin Scorsese, Mick Jagger and Terence Winter, of the HBO series Vinyl. His works have been New York Times bestsellers, New York Times Notable Books, and have been collected in the Best American Essays series. In 2022, Cohen became a columnist for the Wall Street Journal. Given his expertise on so many subjects, we asked him to impart some of his knowledge about a particular historical phenomenon: 21st Century Jewish-American Mobsters. His fascination with Jews in the mafia and his father's upbringing inspired him to write 'Tough Jews'. When people think of Jews, they don't usually associate it with toughness (except for maybe Israelis). There's a misconception that the Jewish-American mobsters of the last century were the accountants or the "brains" behind La Cosa Nostra (the Italian mafia), but in reality, they were often the muscle. Learn about Murder Inc. and notorious Jewish criminal masterminds such as Rothstein, Lepke, Lansky, Segel, Schultz, and more. Cohen explains why Jews and Italians worked so well together, leading to the creation of 'The Commission', which turned territorial rival gangs into an organized crime syndicate that spanned across the US and beyond. We wondered why the children of Jewish gangsters didn't join "The Life," yet the sons of Italian gangsters followed their fathers' footsteps — and Mr. Cohen offered insights that'll surely pique your curiosity. The allure of "The Life" is understandably very strong. In a strange way, it's similar to being part a religious community (as crazy as that sounds), in the sense that it requires its members to live by an unbreakable Code, to follow rules that supersede the law of the land, to have a deep sense of loyalty and care for family and community. The story of the Jews is that of triumph over tragedy, which is the definition of "tough." Enjoy these lesser-known stories of Jewish history.

Human Voices Wake Us
Robert Lowell: 10 Essential Poems

Human Voices Wake Us

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 14, 2022 53:54


Tonight I read ten essential poems from the American poet, Robert Lowell (1917-1977). They can all be found in his Collected Poems. His letters are collected in The Letters of Robert Lowell, Words in Air: The Complete Correspondence Between Elizabeth Bishop & Robert Lowell, and The Dolphin Letters, 1970-1979: Elizabeth Hardwick, Robert Lowell, and Their Circle. It's been a while, but I remember enjoying Paul Mariani's Lost Puritan: A Life of Robert Lowell. · Memories of West Street & Lepke (from Life Studies, 1959) · The Public Garden (from For the Union Dead, 1964) · For the Union Dead (from For the Union Dead, 1964) · History (from History, 1973) · Bobby Delano (from History, 1973) · Anne Dick I. 1936 (from History, 1973) · For Robert Kennedy 1925-68 (from History, 1973) · Marriage? (Hospital II., part 4) (from The Dolphin, 1973) · Dolphin (from The Dolphin, 1973) · Epilogue (from Day by Day, 1977) You can join Human Voices Wake Us on Patreon, or sign up for our newsletter, by clicking here. I assume that the small amount of work presented in each episode constitutes fair use. Publishers, authors, or other copyright holders who would prefer to not have their work presented here can also email me at humanvoiceswakeus1@gmail.com, and I will remove the episode immediately. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/humanvoiceswakeus/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/humanvoiceswakeus/support

The Hard Luck Show
HLS: Ep. 385: The Diablo Experience

The Hard Luck Show

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 5, 2022 51:59


Your bluetooth will worship at the altar of Turntabilism when the Shiekh of Scratching, the VIP of Vinyl Diablo busts into the HLS Studio with Big Lucks, Ol' Blue Eyes and Chumahan, hear about Diablo's savage collaboration with Ol' Blue Eyes and a set of sick 808's, hear Diablo and HLS formulate a new concept album for the Original from Santa Monica, this is a dopeful and hopeful episode do not miss. BONUS: The Phantom of The Lepke haunts this episode with questions about dudes from around the way. #westcoast #California #art #music #beat@biglucks17 @chumahan @estevanoriol @devilos1700www.hardluckshow.comwww.hardluckshow.com/mercadoEmail to: hluckshow@gmail.comHLS: Audiobook ART OF WAR hls.gumroad.com/l/mbhxsSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-hard-luck-show/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Mozizgatunk
Mozizgatunk pdc hatodik évad tizenegy 20220810

Mozizgatunk

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 10, 2022 69:19


Mindketten: A gyilkos járat (2022) Gedzo: Út a díjesőig (2021), Pannónia dicsérete (2020), Lightyear (2022) Light & Magic (2022), Lepke a vállon (1978)

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DIGITIMESILLINOIS
The Life And Death Of Lepke Buchalter

DIGITIMESILLINOIS

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 6, 2022 13:04


was an American mobster and head of the Mafia hit squad Murder inc during the 1930s. Buchalter was one of the premier labor racketeers in New York City during that era.

The Hard Luck Show
HLS: Ep. 347: Medley of Madness

The Hard Luck Show

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 8, 2022 67:55


Your Bluetooth will be lead into the depths of the depraved, hilarious and shocking valleys of the Hard Luck Show when Old Blue Eyes unleashes his Insane Laboratory monstrosity the Medley of Madness, a Frankenstein Horror Beast of the wildest appendages of the best show on earth, hear Esevan Oriol sings To All The Girls I Loved Before that makes Big Luck's spill his overpriced coffee, hear Big Lep's Little Buddy Schmitty is convicted of lying in the Court of the Honey Bun, hear Trap House Stories with Lepke, hear Chumahan's Cramp Attack in Real Time, hear Hoe Whisperer seduction Training and fecal sex story, hear Chumahan and OBE's gay dinner, and Hot toilet paper and crazy ass wipe stories, and hear UFO Cult voluntary self-castration story. IF YOU HATE ENTERTAINMENT THEN LEAVE THIS ALONE!!!!California Center For Art, Escondido 340 N. Escondido Blvd., Escondido CA. June 25, 2022-August 28, 2022Artcenter.org/museum#hardluckshow #podcast #audiostrange #greataudio #bestof@biglucks17 @estevanoriol @laoriginalsfilm @seanlewis HLS PROTO EPISODES: hls.gumroad.com/l/usdthiSupermaxhardware.comwww.hardluckshow.comwww.hardluckshow.com/mercadoHLS: Audiobook ART OF WAR hls.gumroad.com/l/mbhxsEmail to: hluckshow@gmail.comEmail to: sean@movemental.mediaSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-hard-luck-show/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The Hard Luck Show
HLS: Ep. 297: Into The Lepke-Verse

The Hard Luck Show

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 14, 2022 76:48


Your Bluetooth will let the listener know when OG Lepke and Schmitty crash into the PYFC when OBE tries to play his King Salmon Documentary, Schwartz and Chumahan run for cover when Lepke Fire Rains down around Schmitt's Improvised-Fattening-Devices, until the honey buns clear and Big Lep makes contact with Virtual Lep, until all reality melts and Big Lep shares his most emotional truth yet, this episode ends up being, deeper, realer, rawer and more honest when Lepke bares his soul to all.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-hard-luck-show/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Radio ITVT
Televisionation: Edgecast's Darren Lepke on Powering Livestreaming Sports

Radio ITVT

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 7, 2022 33:57


This episode features Darren Lepke, Head of Video Product Management at Edgecast (formerly Verizon Digital Media Services), a provider of CDN, edge computing, serverless computing and streaming-delivery services. The conversation focuses on the work that Edgecast is doing in streaming sports, including enabling livestreaming of the Super Bowl earlier this year. Lepke also discusses how the company overcomes the challenges involved in powering and scaling livestreaming events, outlines its business models, and casts light on the new, interactive features it has developed to enhance live sports programming.

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The Hard Luck Show
HLS: Ep. 286: Estevan vs. Lepke

The Hard Luck Show

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 16, 2022 70:35


Your bluetooth will be shooketh when Latin Kings “Estevan Oriol” and “Big Lepke” of the West Side hit the PYFC with Big Lucks, Ol' Blue Eyes, Schwartz and Chumahan, hear why the LA OG Netflix Stars prove it's never a good idea to change vato's mid-streaming service, Estevan's talks about his latest doc-project with Cypress Hill, Big Lepke argues with Virtual Lepke, Joker brand Europe makes an appearance, how experience and longevity are Estevan's trademark, will Big Lep listen to sound advice AND MORE! BONUS: Schmitty's waistline has become his official armrest.TRANSCRIPT:HLS: Ep. 286: Estevan Vs LepkeHLS: Ep. 286: Estevan Vs LepkeShareCBHLS: Ep. 286: Estevan Vs LepkeSpeakerSpeakerSpeakerSpeakerSpeakerSpeakerMarry me,Jennifer Lopez, Owen Wilson, Maluma, featuring a new song on my way by Jennifer Lopezmarry me directed by . Maybe inappropriate for children under 13 streaming. Now only on peacock. Sign up now. Visit peacock tv.com. 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What are those?Ralph's new bounds that they're police work. That's a co-lab they did with Ralph's. Once you close out the dollar general, the Rite aid colabs. Those are dollar general Walgreens, Walgreenssection and big Schmitty. Uh, Schmitty's waste raises more questions than it looks weird. It almost looks like Maddie. Come here with them. 99 cent or Hey Schmidty. Do you have a colostomy bag?You curious like a little mini laptop on the side duty bag, bro. Don't take it out. Schmidt. That's disgusting. Quit playing with your duty bird, bro. Oh, he'sdrop down the fucking board. The super bowl. Fucking t-shirts. Yeah, he bought them downtown. He got the knockout febrile. I got in my car every time, every time you bring me a super bowlshots, shots.good morning. And welcome to the hard luck show I'm issued a fag qualify west side host Steve lucky Luciano. That's right, ladies coming, you tuned into the greatest show on earth, hard luck show coming to you from the Pico youth center in the city of Santa Monica, man, we got a show for you today. The motherfucker with braid sitting across from me, my partner, they're mad Indianin Southern California and elegant barbarian bringing you to fucking again. Don't be scared, motherfucker. Just lay down and take you like a man lay down and let me put the ad in just the tip, huh?Yeah, you're going down mother fucker. I'll do all the gay shit. If you don't find it, won't terrible.Oh man.No, that's why man. Come on now. Come on, come on now.excellent.An extraordinary show runner. Extraordinary is Mr. Short, short. He shows what's up. What's up? That's excellent. Boy. That's so exciting. Andwho's on your rights. Like I left on my rightright. We got. Silence. Wait, wait, wait. We have a real one and only I'm from Los Angeles.oh man.That's a recent hit by Cypress hill. Not at night for them to stay, put my hand upon the bag, come upand it is the new shit. And of course, squishy. Big lips, golden girl.I used to pull in isn'tfrom me.I bought that hat and last but not least Don visuals. Ah,ah,no, no, it's nice. Who's that? You already know you are not ready.Tell your children not to go near. Tell them to stay away from the camera man from the crazy dress Ali. All right. That's Ali. God damn. That was a lot of shit. It was a lie. All right, show's over. Thank you. That was great. Hold up this meeting. I mean, how about the fact that we've got a bro fucking week? Hey, well, how about the fact that we got a man is responsible for putting you up on net oh, how about that guy?That guy on the right. How about, how about we? How about we keep you? Yeah, go ahead. Okay. Thank you. what's up G how you doing? Esteban? Give us good. I'm tired enough there. All that shit. Yeah. How about the freeway? The freeway is great. You said you was in a parking lot? Yeah, it was. That's what thethe 4 0 5 or the 10. And the thing about it is I think everybody. Just trying to go to the beach today. Don't want to fucking drive the same way I'm going at the same time. And, uh, yeah, I got stuck for a minute, but I'm here for listen. That's the one or let's cut the shit. You just got done working on a project for a major music group.Uh, are you at Liberty to even discuss the details of that? Yeah. Okay. Who and what was the project? Who is Cypress hill? Yeah, I heard of that. You ever heard of them documentary for a Showtime? Yeah, I haven't heard a Showtime. Showtime is where the data's coming out for 20Hey, can we get a congratulations?fucking platinum. Second. One's coming out. You guys on the way, man. You know, we waiting on that, right? We know you're waiting on. He's waiting. Guess what? Big lips waiting. Can you hurry up? He's waiting, waiting on that from her. You got creamed by the mailbox. Got crazy. that's where it needs to be. Hey, listen.Hey. Hey look bro. I'm sorry, bro. Bro. Don't upset virtual Lipkey cause there's going to be a battle between the real lucky and the virtual lepto. You understand that man, that man made it by the grace. So, you know, the man have says, you know, shout out to my homeboy, Mr. Cartoon. He don't like to hear about God.So we religious, we spiritual. I'm like, shit, I might it's like Twilight zone. I might go in, it might not come out. So, you know, right.fucking blue wall. It's like, I ran up into the tent. are you to go? I can't get, I can't bring you up in there. He was like, why not? I go, look, these motherfuckers don't want nobody in there. They want no filming. You get caught on skid row filming nowadays what happens scan. So then we get mad, right? So anyway, he's like, look, you can come in, but you can't bring the.So I just, I got, so I walked out the 10 and nobody goes, Hey, did you get any dope out of that tent? And I go, yeah, he goes, man, two guys just passed out on the fed died or something. And I was like, well, you know, I'm, you know, maybe I got problems though. All right. So hold on. Sorry. All right, listen, that's true.Esteban, uh, the Cyprus tell us the high point of working on the Cypress hill documentary and exactly what are it, what is the subject matter besides Cypress? So what are you actually capturing? Yeah, man, I'd say the high point is finishing it. And, uh, um, what was the second part? What, what is it about all that it's about, uh, 30 years of their career?Um, you know, uh, in the beginning we tell a little bit of the story of where they all came from. Uh, Sen dog came from, uh Goolwa and then Bobo was a. He's Puerto Rican, but I think his family came from the east coast and landed here in LA mugs was from New York. Then he later on came to LA and be real, was born and raised here in LA.And then, uh, the way they all met up and how they did the group, you know, put the group together and shop the deal. And, you know, from there on, it was just, you know, like a snowball and when, so we're now in a new era of kind of like filmmaking, I think, where it's not right. So when Showtime time, or how did that project come together?Well, um, well, I've been, uh, trying to do this project for maybe 10 years and, uh, it took Ella originals to bring it back to me or bring it to me because, uh, you know, I think the homeys probably thought like, ah, Maybe I could do music videos, but maybe not, you know, pull together on a full, full feature movie.I know for a network. And so they had other people in mind and uh, other people working on it, but that didn't work out or those guys didn't come through. Right. So, uh, Ellie originals came out and, and they were like, Hey, what do you think about, you know, maybe you working on the document. I was like, you know, it sounds a good idea to me.Right. And, um, you know, just got right back right back to it. And, uh, it feels kind of like, um, my original idea would be to do like a four-part series. Like a Jimmy I've been in Dre did, uh, the defiant ones kind of like do that, but on the solar Sassons cause you know, we have, you know, so much, so many different people in our group, in our crew that.Uh, you know, there, there they're artists that are, you know, go, go through all the different forms of art from music to film, to, um, fashion and then art film and video. So we got people in all those different realms of art, and I thought it'd be cool to do a documentary from there. And then, because there wouldn't be enough time to tell all the stories, then we break it off and go into individual stories like Cypress hill, meaning cartoon, um, the house of pain, you know, like, uh, uh, the rest of the crew, you know, the, the dilated peoples and the funk dubious.And, you know, there's a chasing Cron, Don, you know, there's a lot of different, uh, you know, uh, there's James Khan, the hooligans with, uh, I mean, uh, Scottie con and Al you know, Scotty's James concert. Right. So, you know, that there's that big, uh, uh, you know, big, how would you say, uh, like they, they left a big mark in the film industry, right.In film and in TV. And then, uh, you know, they're calling alchemists one of the greatest producers alive, you know, those years. So yeah. You know, our crew goes deep into every different, uh, form of art. And, um, and I also got members that are kind of like part members from other groups. So you got these, like the Rizza you don't, or like their part soul Sassons kind of too, right?Yeah. I mean, you know, mugs did albums with pretty much everybody in, and he's done remixes for, you know, huge people and, uh, also too. Anyways, well that didn't work out, you know, doing it that way. So we, we went to, we did LA originals and so I feel kind of like, this is kind of like part two, but, you know, we're, we're moving up to right where I wanted to start.Right. But it's going, it's going the opposite way, but it's still, it's still delivering you a place that you're able to tell all the stories that you want to tell. Yeah. You're the one that can only tell those stories. You want to be able to get them out. This is heading that direction it's still on is I would say maybe more than 10 years that he's been talking about multiple documentaries, this in particular Cypress hill souls, but there's a bunch of things you've been talking about for a long time and, you know, but I think it's also jumaan if you were there, like maybe some of us are there, this is the ultimate example of.Letting go and not trying to force somebody to do something your way and to just back up, let go, and just continue doing your craft. Yeah. And eventually, you know, even with people that are close to you, sometimes they need to see it in different way to be receive it. You know? And I think what he's talking about is really what happened.Well, LA originals drops and people that he's, you know, two seconds from now are seeing him at different light, just because it's been brought to you through Netflix. Another thing that I want to kind of like point out is that Esteban's been focused on this thing for like decades. Right. And in, in, in, in w when you're sitting there like chilling with your friends and stuff and talking about bullshit project, Well, that's the one that's been focused on is almost a no brainer when you pitch it, you go like, well, what about a documentary about Cypress hill?Or what about LA originals? Meaning cartoon, right? That's a no brainer. Like you don't really no brainer now. No wait, but wait, but what I'm saying is, is that it's a no brainer even five years ago, really? For us. Yes. For us. Yes. But the point of the matter is, is that it's a project that anybody, it makes sense.And then, but Esteban's been on it for a long time. So what happens is I've experienced this even with just talking to U S Devonta, talking to people that are around us, I've experienced situations where people are like, all right, let's make this film tomorrow. Right. Right. And then, uh, Esteban's like, yeah, it doesn't necessarily work that way.Yes. Right. Do you understand what I'm saying? Oh, there's people that have been in something maybe four or five, six years. Right. And they're frustrated because they want the thing made already. And it doesn't go like that all the time, man. I'm all the time. Mostly doesn't go that way. And so, and so I don't have a lot of experience with it.I know you step on that and I know you do because I've seen it time and time again, person just sees somebody on fricking Netflix or whatever, and they think like, oh, so we can just make that tomorrow. They don't realize the thing that hit Netflix is 10 years in the making 20 years or in the making. So that's the one, I mean, you've got a very, um, I would say crafted style about your persona and you don't, um, just stipulate, outrageously or yell necessarily.And people around, you got all these brilliant ideas that you've already thought of and tried to get them excited about 10 decades ago. And now they're coming to you. Like it's a new idea. How do you remain so Zen about it? Is it the facial hair that kind of has a Japanese twinge to it? Or how do you do it?Um, I would just say, I just keep it moving. You know, I get up every day, hit the sun on the ice and think about while I'm there. That's about an hour and a half, two hour, a little ritual I do every day. That's when I think about what I'm going to do for the rest of that day. Um, you know, of course I think about all the shit that I have coming in the future, but for the most part, I just think about today, you know, cause we all know, all we have is today, yesterday's gone.Tomorrow's not here yet. So I just focus on today and, and the bigger picture, but, um, you know, fucking there's, there's never enough time in the day for me, that's for sure. And uh, I got a lot of, you know, I was looking at this, I was looking at this, uh, at this trailer. From Elliot original started off as a project called Inc the movie.And I'm looking, uh, it was 15 years ago that we put that trailer up on the, uh, up on YouTube 15 years ago. Yeah. Hold on. That's whenthat's, when, uh, you know, that's when that's, when somebody put that up on YouTube, but that was when that was that late originals. Right. And, uh, the, uh, a friend of ours, Sebastian Ortega, the one who, uh, you know, locked in that deal, he came and he was like, Hey, man, I want to do, or I want to do ink, you know?And, um, you know, of course we had to change it cause they molested the fuck out of that word, in that industry. We, we, you know, uh, we put it together and came up with LA originals and, um, Hey, how did you come up with the original song? It was really easy. Um, it was, uh, it was, you know, a bunch of homeys sitting around, um, and, uh, was, it was me and, uh, Adam and the homie Bobby, and, uh, maybe one or two other people.And we were just throwing around names and Adam violet Brown's son, he came up, he he's like, well, why don't you just call the LA originals? And they're like, yeah, why don't we? And then we pitched that to, to the, to the team and everybody loved it. And we went with that. Um, and if it fit perfect, cause it's like, not only is it me and cartoon, we were born and raised in LA and, but the whole movie is about LA.We've done in LA and about LA around the world. So it was like that shit just locked in perfectly. And, um, I forgot where I was pulling it out perfectly. Yeah. And that's kinda what brought this people needed to see that all happen. Oh, you talked about it because people just think that it's made just like, but now, now that we're kind of in the zone of LA originals and a little bit of the putting together.I think another thing that's, uh, is interesting is that big lap right. Was in LA originals. Uh, and now I am famous deep in it, deep in it. And now here he is famous. Right. And, um, what are your observations where he was and where he is now putting you on the spot as the Vaughn, don't be waving your hand.Yeah. And unconscious unclench your fist. No one's doing, you were just on the show a week ago or whatever it was and it's already played. So whatever anyone heard in that shows what they heard. Hold on. I'm sorry. I just want to ask you, Hey listen, go ahead. Go ahead, please. Certain things that him and I know outside of this microphone and the thing that I don't, you know, like, like go here, whatever, is this a fucking meeting or is it a show about this, bro?You tripping. It's a scare. You, it does it scare. You do whatever you gonna to do wrong. I'm just, I, listen, this is a longtime friend. He's tried to quit winking. No, because the last time I fucking talked to him, this is my I, every time I get I'm getting blown out of the water. And now you got usyou were talking about things. We just got them to go hunting, but this part of it. Yeah. But like I got my son on here listening to him. I said, look, can we justyou to go hard on me? I ain't tripping on that. I just tripping out. You know, like, no, no, no, no, no. Don't tell the truth. No, no, no. As Davon knows how to be prudent. This is a man that's man, longer than you think. So. What does that mean? What did he say? And prudent. Fuck his mother running everybody over the you ain't fruit and bro, look at this.There's a whole lot. Cause it's like quiet dude. Do whatever fucking duct tape Smitty and throw him in the back. Don't distract us with Schmidt. Now he's waving a red flag. What was the first question? The question was Esteban. You've known him a long time and we saw. Uh, I think maybe challenges that, um, big lip was facing in LA originals.And now here he is. Um, are, do you have any observations or concerns or thoughts about, um, welcome back dreaming only on peacock. Can't wait to start junior year saved by the bell is back and taking school spirit. Our Bibles just destroyed our mascot. We're going to crush valley to the max. If we don't learn from the past, we are doomed to repeat it.Reboots of teen Charles, from the nineties, you had a new idea. Hollywood saved by the bell new season screaming. Now let's do this baby only on peacock. Uh, he's still going through the same challenges, you know, like we all, we all do all have been, um, you know, at any second, any one of us could. Go left when we should be going.Right. And, uh, yeah, we always, we all got one foot on a banana put on life, you know, so it's like, you know, anything could happen at any time. And, um, you know, I see a lot of my friends going through struggles and challenges and, and pulling through it. And then, uh, there's some that haven't, you know, recipes of my homie Egypt, he passed away.Um, you know, there's a, there's a bunch of, you know, we've all lost a bunch of friends and family members due to, you know, everything that's going on right now. Um, but I see him left, uh, you know, he's, he, uh, everybody has a 50 50 chance that everything with everything, you know, it's like, what do you think the chances are?You're getting you doing this or that 50 50 that I'm going to where I'm not, you know, so. Um, there's no guarantees and there's no, uh, you know, for sure things. So it depends on, uh, you know, however much work you put into it. That's what you get out of it. Sure. So I take them in order. Um, um, I feel like LEP, well, let me put this way.There was a period of time where I felt like lip was putting in a lot of work. Right. And then all of a sudden, it seems like the work's not there. I was saying, put in the work, you get the results. You don't put in the work and you don't get the results. Half of the work and half Hashem, you're going to get some FAFSA shit.If you want to like visually, like, if you want to ask the question, like, do you feel that you did black lacked on the worker? You're like, bro, I think I lacked, lacked on a lot of other stuff. I didn't just get lazy, but I seen something that happened to me last night. You ain't got to do all that. You look good anyway.Stay in your lane anyway. So anyway,Yeah, it happened to me last night, you know, there was just like, just so much shit happening and that's, and that's, I was talking to somebody on the phone. They're like, you need to just fucking shut that door and worry about yourself. And maybe you're at a point in your life where, you know, you did what you had to do for those men, you know?And I started for me to like, have another individual telling me that, you know, but no, but wait a minute, you fell. But how about when, the way that the program works in like an honesty situation to where, even though I messed up for six months, like you keep looking at it, you know, like for fucking a long time, oh, well you weren't using in this picture.And I fucking, you know, swollen, I'm fucking swollen. I'm like I was three months in a run in this picture. So it takes a long time. It took me a minute in order to. So fuck shit up. And people were noticing that a real close to me there. They were like, next to me saying, is everything okay? And I'm like, sure.Everything's, you know, really in there. And I can see it in their face. Like even a step. I was like, no, everything. Ain't okay, motherfucker. I've known you. I've known you for so long. And then this dude next to me, by my, yeah, the homie right here next to me, he kind of knows what, I don't even look at peanut butter, but he's just hearing my voice.He was like, it was the fuck on me. Like you don't sound right. I know that voice. We know we both like, you know, I've never shot dope with you. How do you know my voice? He goes, cause I shoot dope and I know the voice. So what's going on. Can you interpret that, that we just got a long one as soliloquy from a big law.How do you, how do you interpret what he just said? Um, that, um, I would say that he knows what he, what he did. He knows what he's doing and he knows what he has to do. To get back on the right track. Now it's all about applying everything. He knows just your measure, which is that hard work that you were talking about.Right. You know, cause it, it ain't easy and, uh, you know, uh, He just got to get back to it and it's no secret, no big deal. But, um, but in a way there is, there is a secret because it hasn't reached certain levels in that thing to where I want it to be like, I want to go and just like, make the drastic announcements and do that.But at the same time, I also I'm preparing myself because they say that you have to be honest in all your affairs in what we practice. I practice the 12 step program. Yeah. But I don't, if I were here to suck, he was like, well, you haven't been practicing the right fucking way. None of this shit would have happened.I don't think maybe we just listened to my leaders. He's got 19they know something about not picking up exactly where I got that. Steve, I see you leaning in a certain direction. Right. And then I'm looking at you interpret things, you know, big, big left to what are you hearing? And big lips, you know, He's doing, he's doing better. He, and I think like left, like if someone said he knows what happened, right.And, um, and, and he knows what he has to do. I mean, he'd been knowing this information for a while now, but at the same time, you know, I think that it's, it's applying the information. Maybe it's in the way that you apply it. It needs to be applied maybe differently. The way that you're setting it up. A lot of times it and me the same way I come at sobriety and it lies.And then it falls apart. I guess I started looking at what I was building and I kept on building it unrealistic unsustainable way. Or, you know, like, I don't know. And I really doing the work. I don't know. Esteban did you, and with big, big Lux, right. And big Lux has been through ups and downs or whatever he struggled with.So do you see a similar thing with your friends where you're like, man, they're putting something together, but, uh, but why does it, sometimes it seems like the threads get lost or whatever it is and you know him for a long time. So yeah, probably all of them. I think all my, most of my friends are the same type of person.I don't know. It's weird. Uh, I think, uh, I don't know, but they're all super creative to make it's uh, like when they put their mind at something like a creative idea, it comes out, you know, real, it comes out sick, you know, what, what exactly what they were telling me, maybe even a little bit better and. It's it's a cool process to watch.This is not cool when you know that they're there in their lows and people are, you know, people are getting hurt and not, not like in a physical way, but feelings and shit like that. Yeah. That's not cool. Um, It's, you know, it's, it's been part of the story the whole time. It's part of all of our story and we all have been living it and it's, you know, it's all real life, you know?I mean that, that part of it's real. And when, when big LEP came through last week and he was talking about what he was going through, he, you got choked up a minute there. And I got to tell you mid showed up for like a weeks, man. Like it says, it's just like, if you see me up every day, like really like this one here, this one's heavy, you know, 'cause people hit me up.People hit me up that I don't even know right. People from Milwaukee. And they're like, I almost started crying. I cried when I heard big. And so this, this, this, I think about that. And I'm like, man, there's nobody, these two guys are still on big, big Lux and big Lackey. I've never seen it maybe in a few occasions, but these guys are beloved.Like in any scenario that they're in, they're creative, but also they're like, people love that. Yeah. Right. No, I trip out on that. Cause motherfuckers hate on me and I'm doing I'm fucking doing all my shit. Right? Like tell the Indian to shut the fuck up. I can just imagine if I fucked up, that'd be like trying to kill yourself.Right. Like, oh man. How about a typical day walking down sunset. They'll be like, people will stop me and be like, where's lucky yet. I'm like, eh, like he's people. He knows that. I don't know. Like, I don't know. He's like, um, when she went left, when, when they said, when I was talking about all my close friends, this is kind of what goes on.I started thinking about the group friends. It's like. Yeah, it is man. And the stem on is definitely the one is the, um, he's the, uh, what is it? The common denominator in these, right. So a lot of people close to him, we lost some of them along the way. You know, some never came back. Some are busted, some are out here trying to figure it out somewhere in a sober living and, and right.But they're struggling with this thing. And, and Estelle on is like the, in many ways been the anchor, right? I mean, he was right. He goes through all the shit. And so, and he does it without catching a lot of fucking, uh, attitude about it. And through it, he's dealt with good friends, telling a fuck you and all that shit.And he just fucking, then they come around and apologize. But I'm saying, me looking at all that we can, all that. I got to a place in my life where I wanted to stop. Like when the clock turns and it becomes the lucky show. Now everybody's scared. Lucky's fucking up lucky. I got sick of that time coming. And it being the lucky show again, like I'd rather be one of the glue pieces in this, right.I'd rather be the guy that doesn't disappear and that's not bad. I can able to do small chunks of that, but I haven't been able to do that for a long, consistent stretches. And I'm trying to be, I'm not trying to be, that's the guy I want to be today. That's just accountable and be there more like a Stevan he's one mandate for a long time with a bunch of different dudes.Okay. Something that I've learned from Estella. And I don't generally talk about learning from people because I'm a fucking know it all show off faster, but no, I don't. But one of the things that God's love is true, but one of the things I learned from Esteban is to respect. To respect the amount of time you stuck at something because maybe in the first five years, people might not have been, but Esteban has stayed with a certain thing for so long and been so consistent at it for so long that he's built up a body of work and material to break through certain barriers.And when people look at them and think like, oh, well this is just a, you know, overnight success kind of guy, or it's now it's the Latin turn for media. So will, so here's Esteban instead, it's more like Esteban did it when people believed in it, when they didn't believe in it, when they saw the value in it, they didn't see the value, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.He was there with a camera and his fucking crew day in, day out. And I take that. I actually apply that when I think about my firm, I think about that. I don't think like I haven't seen this guy ever stopped working. Right. But I'm talking about even on trips to Japan and Vegas. Like we could be walking down to go get breakfast in the morning.I an hour asleep and it's still going to be sticker and shit promoting your shit. Yeah. Every minute. I can't do that. I have to be able to unplug like some other shit get lost on switching, but he is doesn't matter. He's either answering email, putting shit away. Right. He's pulling out the stencil to hit the curb and like, why you're just having a conversation stopping from spray, painting the floor right here.But people are listening. Like, what do you mean you guys are still trading on the fucking so yes we are. I think, I think I was getting mad at it for a while. I was getting mad at it, but I was getting mad at the fact that for so long we were doing shit and nobody was getting it. Right. But at some point in time, you give up and you're like, this is, I don't care of anybody.This is just what w what I do. But I think that there was some idea maybe in a Stefan's head or somebody that Avengers. The brown or that is going to get an opportunity at this thing. And whoever kind of has been staying true to the game and collectively, and I think that that kind of happened when, when that did kind of show up our Stefan, he had everything to back it up.I mean, amen is, I mean, everywhere we go was being documented. A lot of shit was being documented, was always being photographed, man, everywhere. We have a development session right now with the master Esteban Oriel guys got fucking show on Netflix, Showtime, um, and a lot more coming. Uh, he, well, he's starting his own streaming platform called Esteban Oriel channel when rival HBO, Esteban Oriel channel,just poached paramount. No, no, no.he posts, he put. He knows hoax. Listen, can I talk, can I tell him, Hey man, poached, one of the executives from paramount, their league president is working for us tomorrow. Do you want me to take those or you want me to add 17 million to guilt? If you want to borrow money, buy oil. Okay. I need some juice.juice, juice, money. I was like, are you Andy? I'm happy that I'm happy. I'm happy. He got the deal with the studio. That's in my neighborhood.Guess what? All of a sudden that's the on your parking fees are going to go through the roof. We know you're going to put theI went the other day to them. Look, don't be coming. You know, causing trouble? No, you gotta be cool. All the free coffee you want a big left over atnine 11. everybody where we always want free shit, man. I don't think that I always want free shit, motherfucker. What are you talking about? I always try to give free shit. I should get you against free shit, man. You would just ask him for juice money as two seconds ago, that's go back to the development.Let's go back to the development. You got a creative genius and we're wasting congrat Hey car. Now what? Wait, wait, wait, can I ask the question different way from developing the shell? Um, you can ask Anthony, you can talk about that, right, please. So he says that, uh, Esteban was always doing stuff when no one knew like it was going to pan out.And I can't just say. It'd be unfair to say that, that, um, there wasn't, it was cartoon. It was a stab on that. And, and, and the whole look, and the whole thing was, was being done and nobody was, nobody wanted to fuck with it. Everybody's scared of it. Nobody gave him any credit. Like that was the majority you guys have this whole thing, nobody getting it and leaving it.They had to go to Japan to do the first, there are two of their photo and his drawings because nobody here wanted it monitoring. But later years later, when I'm saying, it's like, oh, that shit is where the whole everybody went to. And I used to be burned out about it. I used to be like, man, these motherfuckers wouldn't listen.You know, like we've been showing them that shit forever. But as the, on his remained, not that guy, he doesn't do that type of shit. He just stayed cool. Because when you're holding four ACEs, you can have patients in a poker game. Right. But when you really do have it, you ain't tripping and he really has it.Right. Did you always believe that it was going to pan out of that? Um, yeah, just a lot faster. I thought I was gonna, I thought she was going to go through, but then I was like, so invested that I couldn't quit. I was like so deep in it. I was like, I'm not pulling out now. Remember it, remember, listen, you know what I'm saying?So it's like we met when he talked about LA originals, when it finally came through and it looked like it was going down south by Southwest and then COVID hit or something hit. And it was like everything, every little daydream that you were having was just getting smashed and you think you broke through it?Bam. And it even ends up that it, it was right for it to go down. But this is why, now that we, now that the gas is in the car here, now that I'm choking on his fucking corner. And now that the gas is in the car and we've got a development, hold on, developmental genius here. That's the one. Why don't we, why don't you think about what would you.Okay, because we know gold. What would you do to create either a docu-series or even a show around big Mac key? What would it be called? How would you approach it? What would it be? All of a sudden left peace, quiet as a mother fucking church, right? I'm talking about church hill Butler, no church house mouse.Now forget that. Let's get back to your shows. It's trying to make a star out of you. Let's go. Well, wouldn't be as like one of those, um, continuing continuous showers. Yeah. What would it be more like? Um, it'd just be a straight out documentary. Like I have a sizzle reel that I did of, of and another one about DACI.Cause, uh, I've thought like those would be cool. Little breakaway stories from LA originals and those. Two stories outside of me and cartoon that got a lot of response. A lot of people gravitated towards those, those guys. Yeah. Because you know, I mean, they both been through a lot of shit. Right. And, um, that's what I was telling.Lipkey the other day I was like, amen. About a year ago was the best I've ever seen you, you know, in, in the 20 something years that I've known you, you know, you have the five years clean, you're managing all those, you know, sober livings. You're the manager, your house, you were going to school to get your, um, what's that thing called the, the counseling for drug and alcohol addiction.You got one level, but you got to go to level to where Smitty's actually got to do the homework and then he'll go to the next level. Yeah. Maybe he's just trying to get some frequent. So I was telling him I've never seen. Better than this should've been. Yeah. But this true, you are the healthiest in, in physically that I've ever seen him.My healthiest in his head, he was helping, you know, a lot of people all around the world that were getting at him because they saw him in LA originally, it was like, Hey man, it's building up a following. Yeah. W you know, you, you inspired us a lot. And, and I have the same type of issues that look like that you had in that, in the documentary, you know, what can I do to change?And he was helping a lot of people that were just getting at him through Instagram. And, you know, now it's like a worldwide nationwide thing. It wasn't just, he was helping people in LA cause before he's. Yeah. He, you know, when he'd get clean and sober, he'd help people in LA that are, you know, in direct contact with him.But now because of social media and all. He's branched out worldwide, you know, so I think the, uh, the, that, uh, a documentary on him and his whole story with would be inspiring to a lot of people. I agree. And, um, and I have a lot of footage of him, you know, in the dark places and, and in the light. And, um, that's what I'd tell him, man, because of my age, we should film this shit, you know, that you're doing, he was like, why do you want to feel now when you know, I don't, maybe I don't want people to see, you know, me doing that kind of shit.Homie. That's the shit that gets people's attention and you're doing it anyways for no reason. Right. So why don't we do it? And then with a reason, you know,no, there's a reason you're doing it, but there's no, there's nothing coming out of it. Except you just going deeper into the shit, going deeper in the rabbit hole. So there's, you know, uh, something positive out of it. Right. What I'm trying to say. Right. Getting all the negative out of it. That's for sure.But you know, why don't we document a little bit of it and get something positive out of it for later? You know, I don't even like doing it. Like I, I'm not, I'm not cool with watching my homie do fucked up shit to himself. Right. But I will throw myself, you know, on the fire, uh, you know, to, to get that shit.You know, for the, for the project overall. Well, the shaker getting the story. Right? Right. So, uh,you're good with all that rightnow. So this is what he says in rebuttal. That whole Sherm would look like a glazed donut. Okay, go ahead. Well, again, again, listen, listen. This is what are we using? Wait, what'd you say lip? I have your first.Okay, so we're at the . Hey, Hey, here we go. He's got a question for Smitty Smith.Everybody know you. Ain't gonna, somebody goes, Hey. Yeah, it was a problem with that thing. And then I got somebody else. I've got me go. That was one clip of you talking. I don't understand what you're saying. I hear that every day for hours circles,this is what I hear. I drove you to fucking LA you know, it's the true, like really? Because I've noticed a lot of things in my life that distracted a lot of individuals in that right there that ain't never going to stop. Like shiny. Good. Hold up. Thank you anyway. Right. Welloff and they all start firing off.anyway. No, no, no. Personally, I learned a lesson. Imagine if you died, that's what you'd be hearing all the way up. You'd be like,let me know when you're ready. Look, bro. Look, bro. Remember the baby, right? He wouldn't do it.where's the baby Ray who was here? He was doing and doing the fucking back arms. Yeah. I love sweetie. We're going to go look for baby. I need it. I'll give you his phone number. You can go right there, here, Smith. He's got something to say. She made a, what do you have to say? Chocolate shop? Yeah. Yeah. I heard, I heard that Jan Sussman is doing a documentary, this street of streetwear.Yeah. And he said they already did one of those. Right. That's what I heard, but they didn't get all the right people. Yeah. But, uh, Jan's doing one says that he's going to be getting you on talking to you and, and talking about some of that stuff. What, uh, what's going on with the stem on Oreo apparel right now.And, uh, and what's going on with joker brand brand coming back slowly? Is it wasn't? Yeah, like, like everything, I never quit anything and I, uh, just keep doing, you know, consistent. I still have a, I still have a joker Europe. Right. Going strong a long time. Yeah. Tim out there and joker Europe does everything, right?Like as far as, uh, the way he does shit for the brand. Um, for so many years, I had a fight with all of our partners, you know, that the Chinese investors and the Israelis, and it was always a struggle, you know, I always had to like, uh, you know, plead my case with them when they didn't know shit about what I was trying to do or anything.So it was like, I was always hitting a brick wall with every, everybody that we, you know, ever worked with. So now it's just me, you know, I. And I have Tim over there in Europe, he's doing it. He knows exactly what to do exactly how to do it. And he does it perfect. The, you know, he does a little bit better than me because that's his main focus.That's all he has to do everything. He's not doing books or Henry's, or, you know, taco trucks or none of that shit. He's just doing joker Europe. Right. But, um, you know, for, for me here in LA, I shipped to, uh, uh, we have a guy in Thailand who distributes to us. We have a guy in Taiwan, a couple of guys in Japan, um, Canada, Sheila Peru.So, you know, I have, I still have, uh, you know, people all around the world, distributed it and selling it in a time where. Everything is online. We, I still have people, you know, getting it out there in their area, which is cool. And then, uh, you know, I do my thing here pretty much. I sell it in on, uh, at Brooklyn projects and Nixon, Myrtle in Highland park.I love LA. Yeah. I love LA sells. And Steven Oriel do incredible for me, you know, that I always, like, I used to go in there like five years ago and just be like, man, it'd be crazy to get my LA stuff in a, in a store like this, where it's LA base, you know? Wow. And somewhere where people can go in and really get the shit, you know, you might sell a lot of product to them in the best places, fucking the airport, you know, dude it's so it was really smart that they opened that place.Yeah. Wow. And they had, you're like your number one thing, right? They, I do good there. It's just cool that, uh, you know, I used to go in there and think that I should be here one day, you know, it should be in here. And then I saw like homeboy industries get the bakery there and, uh, earth cafe and all these different places.We're getting these spots, trail tacos, you know, like, you know, 10, 15, 20 years ago, you would never think any of that shit ever be in the, in the, in the airport. Wow. So when I finally, you know, this guy reached out to me to see like where I could, if I, if they could, you know, do something with me in that store that I love LA store.Yeah. I was like, man, fucking here it goes, you know, it's happening finally. And, um, he made that connection and the shit's been going great ever since in there, except during the COVID when the whole airport got shut. Yeah, right. Fucking Esteban Oreo joker print. It's not Joe, the books, the photos, the films.Right, right. And then your, all the other shit, but wow. So had stolen. You busy dog grinding for 20, this drops on HBO, right, man. Did I'm excited 30 years and watched the shit, your house or what? Oh yeah. Well, we're going to try and get a little, uh, screening going on somewhere for the homeys that we can all go and celebrate, you know, somewhere at a movie theater, where of course they let the homie smoke, smoke some weed.So Simon movie puts a little bit where they ever, that might be the spot where they do a brain dead. Right. Or, uh, you know, someone. Maybe when a Quentin Tarantino spots, but definitely, uh, I went and saw, uh, um, the song remains the same, the night that is Jimmy page's birthday. So it was a very January 8th at 12 o'clock at night specifically?No, the, the one on Beverly that's combining go to that and Beverly in the Brady theater. And so I went and watched it there. The owner was like, we're going to play it loud, you know, so you can really enjoy the music. But I mean, for me, I would, uh, order a little bit extra sound package, you know, cause, um, it wasn't loud enough and it wasn't clear enough.I wanted to hear that shit, like at a show, you know? Yeah. So I'm thinking like if we do something for the Cyprus project, you know, we definitely have to bring in a little bit of extra sound. So I know a guy you get to hear and feel that fucking, that shit. You know how a guy, oh, blue eyes is an audio engineer.So I think it'd be cool to do screenings for the home, man. That'd be awesome, man. You know, he could really be great, bro. What do you think? Oh, what is leptin? No, bro. What do you mean? No.What I will do is I collect the kitty. He wants to collect the kid, he at the end, and then what these fuckingshit doing, guys getting all bummed out. They DD big money comingin and out in, and the numbers don't change the format. Bull G Hey shit, motherfucker. Shoot mine. Yeah. What we're going to do? Okay. This is what we're going to do, man. What are we going to do? Are you going to eat a hot dog? When you go watch the movie eat a hot dog. Now my blood pressure goes up.my blood pressure. I just fucking sticks a mess up my ass. Damn.secrets. Oh, Hey, what's going on today is step one. It to the taco truck, the LA originals taco truck to this tennis tournament over there. And I want a religion tennis tournament. Yeah, we do it all. Hey dude, is that the Esteban Oreo open classic tennis tournament? No, not yet. We're working on that right now.Right? Is there anything you're not doing? Um, yeah, there's a light Oreo taco truck. Are you guys just popping up at special events right now? Yeah, me and Paige, we just roll up to the events that, you know, we know people get it. Cause I mean that whole industry that talk there, that the food truck shit is just a shit show.You know, there's like so much out there. Right. Many out there. And like you just, you just can't roll up and think like, oh, I got these pictures on the truck. I got good food. I'm going to make thousands today. You know, it's a hard thing to break, but we kind of found our niche to get us off the ground. And that is to go to a people, events that know us, they get it and they want us there.Right. So it's, you know, it's kind of, it's just the way that we're going with that right now. And we don't want it to be out. I think you have a great taco, great product. And if anybody has any inquiries that wants to really fucking jump into a big, nice restaurant deal with these guys, I think we're going to sell on Oreo LA original tacos should be a restaurant who did Kenny Rogers roasters.They're working with Esteban right now, trying to see if they can do a version of that with Esteban Oriel, with all that go for them. It went well. But what they want to do is do your. Copyrighted protected LA fingers image that everybody tries to steal. Right. And turn it into a dining experience. That's what I understand.Now I got to tell you guys to be honest and I, you know, I'm sorry. I don't mean to, but so hard, like talking to Esteban and then in behind us Davon, I see. . Just like twitching and twisting and he's smoking this gigantic, babe. And so like, Esteban's like, well, yeah, I was working on this thing in 10 years and finally like this, and then he's back there, like a little flipper, like he's like a little Manatee, like, like he's a little Manatee with little hands and it's a belly is an arm rest like a Simpsons character.He really does do it. It's kind of scary. It's like, uh, it said little bit, you said you were going to drive with us and we were still waiting on that. Hey, it'd be better if he went withHow about this? Cause I was thinking about it. I'm like, I think you should give, asked him on all access pass to your life, big lap to document it for time. . I would say let's do it because I liked the idea, dude. I'm telling you right now. See the movie where you need gas money. I don't need Jack shit. I am self I'm.Self-made super motherfucker. Let me tell you something. Leprosy the movie. You asked your question and then I let get the movie comments done. And now we are, we're sharing the movie. Okay. Share it. But I'm telling you right now, Esteban, I'm telling you this guy right here is one. Here's some wonder to build one in a zillion.That means that means that it's so weird. You know what? I'm going to tell you. This is my personal feeling. The reason why you listen, the reason why you're able to make the mistakes that you've made in your life is partially because somehow you have the blessing of, of charisma. Like people like you, they really like you.And everybody wants to see you do well. And it gives you a lot of room to make mistakes, bro. And you got big ass bumpers and you need this finally capitalize on it and finally respected. what would you make you feel? Who you make you feel that I'm not respecting myself doing what I know what to do? Well, we just talked about fucking tools.They're not sharp. So I'm taking advice. I got calling people love, like, and then my sponsor says you did the wrong call. You're supposed to cover it for you already. I was already loaded in my head. Way before I put any type of dope in me. I know you're not a psychiatrist. I am actuallyoh, I actually am. But, but, but let me just say something to you big for real, and this is on the real, all the joking aside and everything. I'm going to tell you for real, for me, and this is not really for everybody else, because I truly believe everybody's sobriety journey really is a particular eyes special onto themselves.Okay. I'm really serious about that. But I will say this, the one thing that seemed to things that seemed to give me longterm sobriety, I'll let, I'll let that pass is. Yeah, it's what it is, but here's the deal one. I made a decision in my heart that like, you know what, if I die sober, but I'm never financially celebrity, whatever successful in my life.That's still a success. Of course. Don't say, of course to me, brother just don't do it. No, no, no, no. Just listen to just take it in. Can you take something in for watch, besides, besides what we both know you took in when at one time we went crazy last time. All right, so that's one. Thank you. So, oh, I'm sorry.Just, it's not, it's not exciting enough for you, my friend, maybe if you listened, you be in a different situation right now. Robin asked me, I'm not asking you anything right now. I remember the situation I needed to be. Right. But I'm just trying to tell you the truth. One is it's a success. If I don't pick up and die and two, I don't pick up, I don't care about what's going on in my life.You can say whatever you want from your position, you are arguing. But are you humble enough? Don't give me that. Look, let me hear if I'm humble or enough, are you humble enough to actually take advice? That's destined to help you? That's why I'm here. Is that why you're here? I know you got, cause look, I asked Yvonne that man's is success.Look at us. He's in a success or role. Do you get him fucking no, I didn't say about I'm sorry. Can I talk to myself? Is that cool? You, I mean like all the DMS that I've been getting on you lately, but I'm used to being hated, bro. I don't even worry. I'm like, would you like being hated? Don't try to distract.Try to distract. I'm just saying, well, we've tried to talk to you and you got something specials. All I was trying to tell you, that's where I get a loaner because I always have all the answers that don't get me. No. Well, you know what I think too, I think too is like, you know, that you know, that people like a stamp on it taking ETA that dude take your time to shoot the, uh, your, your, you know, do the trailer on you and get you out there with your writing and bring you in the car, all that stuff.And then, uh, you know, people set up shit. And then when you give, when you go to decide to go get loaded, now, how about some kid going to be taking you? Don't be, you don't be thinking about what that man did. He's trying to set you up to win. And when you do that, it's that fuck. Cause we need you to feel like you're so far in this fucking thing, that you're part of the team now, so that time's going to come and you don't need to go out on the fourth floor.We need you in have everybody in a certain way. I'm not just sitting there, consider myself, have we all like, really realize in your own thinking that that to care for others and to care for yourself to maybe like somebody like got at me and they're like, you need to stop fucking caring for others and start caring for yourself or that this was talk.That's probably the case for you. Since you were 16 years old, he should've been . I only give a fuck about nobody. Yeah. You got to take care of, first of all, let's not get, let's not get killed. I'm saying let's not, let's not get confused on DMS from people they live in your life. Let, let the truth of the matter is is that you sh you have gifts that you should take seriously.And you're not, that's all I'm saying, right? That's really what I'm saying. You're not taking yourself. You're doing is. The pupil, right. It's fucking with people. Right. But, but, but see, but, but, but the issue is, and that's true, but, but let man, I'm talking about, when I talk to you sometimes when I'm being real, I can see that there's a wall where it's not getting through, I've taken this wall down and that's made me the reason why that I know my runner ability to the things that I could be comfortable and get away.One more time. I don't like living like that. I can't lay my head down at night knowing that I'm, you know, lying to motherfuckers and playing the part or you keep shaking them moving, man, I man, yes. Because a big luck, big Lux knows big Lux knows the shoe grind store. And he knows the whole thing. I'm not just saying, I'm honestly telling you that until you take your, with the bullshit.It's bullshit, bro. Yeah, man. Like, like yeah. Well you got to go, well guess what time? Once again, Smitty, you didn't get a shot. Listen. Big lap. My daughter's got ballet and she's got some great I'm going to come home. I love you. Big lap. I love you. And listen. Let's, let's pray for big love right now, dear God, dear Lord, dear Lord, dear Lord, who is in heaven please?No, no, no, no, no. Listen, we're going to pray for you. We're going to pray for you. This is a sincere yes. Can I pray, dear Jesus, please help. And I mean this from the bottom of my heart, with all my energy. Please help. Esteban Oriel get a beer commercial, just like Mr. Cartoon, but like no Corona. No, no, no. But seriously, I prepped for you big lip on many, many, many, many, many, many positive energies to you.Big lab, as much as I like to joke and tease you, the truth is is that deep, deep down. I really believe that yes, something and you've already given a lot to the world and I hope that you can be open-minded and I hope people look out for you. And I hope that God puts his energy around you. And I hope that you can honestly face the truth in your heart.And I hope you can let yourself step up and be the adult man that you were destined to be not the boy, not the kid, not the jokester. The man, not just for you. But for everyone in your life that looks up to you and takes their instruction from what you do is so important. My brother. And so with that, I hope that whatever the universal powers are, they propel you on your way to success and positivity.Now, with that being said, I love you luck. Thank you guys. April 20th. When you pull up in front of UTVs, April 20th, HBO, right? The Cyprus, Showtime, Showtime, Showtime, we're going to be pumped. We're going to be posted. I'm going to start posting this shit up, like about a month before it comes out. I want everybody following my lead, but we're all gonna celebrate this.You know, this is the second one up by her Stovall. You know, this is a shit salmon. I'm excited, bro. I know that we can't talk about all the projects you have going on. We can't, we don't have time, but Lipkey took up the title, never schedule that Pete and intervention on left key. This'll be shown on how many times we have a step on, on, and then we got to do these cell on part two, because the part one somehow some waymore, you come separate. Now you don'tand then maybe, maybe that's the reason why a lot of people around here, they have that thought like you just separate. Let's just separate the old motherfucker, right? No,get more out of what you didn't get. Okay. No, no. And listen, and from dot com right there, run Oreo. So a Stefan Oreo at a step or your shop. Yep. You ain't get mad at the other one. Joker joker brand USA joker brand.com is Stephen royal.la Schmitty. Bizarre on lefty.com. Right. And yeah, I got, when I got one, I want, I want to give a shout out to a thank you.Nocturnal Xero's coming out with something. Yeah, I got them over there. Uh, since I'm not helping nobody, I guess I just got them in there. You know, we're just pumping them up a little bit, you know, and he's got some music on, so I got, so now I got a fuck, bro. Damn man. Are you going to real Indian? Oh, I grew up on a reservation.I'm a car. I don't listen to no Indian.Socks are the number one most requested item in homeless shelters. Underwears. The second shirts or third at Bombas socks were first made with comfortable details for everyday wearing then underwear and shirts to all designed to perfectly fit at Bombas. 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The Hard Luck Show
HLS: Ep. 283: Extreme Lepke

The Hard Luck Show

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 9, 2022 68:58


Your bluetooth will shout “WEST SIDE” when Big Lepke and Sideschtick Schmitty smash into the PYFC with Big Lucks, Ol' Blue Eyes, Schwartz and Chumahan to relate, reveal and run down the unspeakable, holy and unfathomable details on the Lepke Road, where has he been, who has he seen, what has he been doing, since we last left our Urban Legends survive sciatica and strokes, now feast your ears on the years since then and ultimately come to your own conclusion, but just know, the bravery, heart and energy that Big Lep shows in this episode might melt your earbuds. DO NOT MISS!TRANSCRIPT:Good morning. Good morning listeners. Yep. It's that time? The hard luck show is begun. Wake the fuck up. I'm sitting here in the city of Santa Monica Shaw center, Santa Monica, California, right here with my people on the west side, on my right over here.Where's braids to court. Yeah. He likes Peter Framptonand American Indian Southern California.Here wants a kid to fucking bring you rap 10.on sound.American Indian beer right there, brother.Come onan extraordinary show runner shoe. Whoa. Yeah, what I fell is back again. What up fellas back again? Boom, muscle man. Shout out to beat. Tell me that doesn't sound like a funeral off fucking Russell. Like I'm right there in the mausoleum rock.visual.know what time it is. Ah, okay. And coming from orange county, Southern California. It'swhat's the hell Schmitty. Are you doing? Do it shows I'm welcome. All right. I got lost. Where have you been? Oh man, three weeks, at least three weeks. The last time that we did a podcast, I want to get her a month. I think you've been living in about a hundred. I'm sure he, okay. I'm a little bit, I'm more confused than when we started talking to you.We also have covering as well. Oh yeah. The one and only the reoccurring, the greatest of all time, the one and only the never duplicated, never replicated. No man. The mountain, the legends. Mr.damn on me. I got the connection texting me right now. I'm letting him know I ain't going down.in the middle of all this, this motherfucker is like, how many do you want? How many do you need a trip? No, nothing. I got the connection. He's like, what the fuck, man? I haven't heard from you in two weeks. Like, you know, our camp, you, I don't know what it is. It's like, the way I respond is like, maybe not now, not now, but not today, but maybe not later either.Yeah, but, you know, put that on hold as a matter of fact, you know what, uh, and the dude needs some help, so I might help him. And I might not. Cause the last time I helped him, we both helped ourselves to a little bit. And you know, it was like, you know what, thank God, you know, I'm out of here by mistake. I didn't drive all the way over here to, uh, to, to, uh, to come over here and to judge shit, just to check in with the listener and let them know that, oh man, it's been rough, man.Uh, the 2022 is like a year that I would like to say that, uh, I wouldn't like to restart it or put it behind me because I learned from where I, where I'm at today and where I was yesterday and where I was last week to the following week to this week or whatever we go, we're going to, we're going to have to come in in front of me is the fact that man, I have to take life serious.Cause I've always told the listener that with the program that I run, that this follows me, you're on the menu, you know? And it's like, And death is something that I've been faced with this last few days. You know, it's like, you know, I'm, I'm the type of dude that, you know, if I, if I'm in, if I'm, if I'm doing anything, I'm doing it all the way, you know, I'm not just gonna fuck around and just go in and have a glass of Chardonnay.Yeah. You know, it's like my insight, whether or not I'm, I'm up here, like explaining anything of that nature, whether that happened or not. It's like, well, you just expressed that, that you got the connection texting you. Yeah. Well, the connection has been texting me for 58 years of my life. He might've been text texting me while I was in the fucking womb, you know?And it starts with that, you know, and then, you know, I just want to say, I thank God that I may be here today. I give all my, anything that has stayed, anything that you're going to hear today. I'm not going to get religious and I'm not going to get my, get a little bit spiritual on you. So if you're into some spirituality, spirituality, and the reasons why that I am sitting again, one more time in this seat this morning.And, uh, with the gentlemen that got me here to there, I'll just have to look at it like, oh, well, Smitty's fun to play with these fun, the crown, when he's fun to do a bunch of dumb shit with. But the fact of the matter is at the end of the day, he's also a real crazy. Yeah. You know, he got his ass over here and, you know, we're, we're, we're met with things in life that, um, that we're faced with everybody, not everybody in this room, man.I'm glad to be here. You know, I'm glad I was invited and I'm glad that I still have the opportunity to actually come and be here. Amongst all you gentlemen, not as a man, but as a true miracle in the eyes of know whatever you want to call it. You know, there's some people out there listening, you know, I got my boy, Mr.Cartoon. He might not like he approve of the word, the word God. And he might not approve of whatever, but he does the proven something that keeps him going. And that, that could be his job. It could be his whim, his wife, his children. And that's the, what things that, the important things that I needed to look at today, because I do have.That's very important to me in my life. And when I see my sons looking like they, ain't looking at me on the phone, on the little FaceTime and I see this kids eyes looking at me a little bit, like I've never seen that, right. It's I get away where I'm concerned about your dad. Like I'm a, as my mom, I'm going to turn 12 next month.And a, and I'm not that dumb. And I know you have a look on your face. Like you might be worried about something and for my son to worry about certain things today, when he's 11 years old and pinpoint shit that we could be, I'm only imagine that how would a child can pinpoint something of when they, of something that he sees in me that I'm, that I know I see in myself that he probably sees in myself and I'm just trying to figure shit out another day, but I did make it here this morning.And, uh, and I, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna take a few deep breaths, say a few little prayers because this, for the listener, I want you to know this is probably going to be, um, one of the hardest. You know, like just to be real, you know, it's like I made it and it was, um, yeah, I, I, you know, I don't want to be like, oh, well, you, you know, you face some fucking bullets and you've been dragged through the mud and you did a few, you know, you know, stairs penitentiary, you know, you've been faced with strikes, you've done this, you did that.You know, you know what the fuck to do. So like, you know, another, you know, like everybody's looking at it like, like, you know, you know, you, you're supposed to know, like, you need to just, we need to take you out in the alley and whip your ass a few times. That's how many times. You know, you need to think, you know what you're doing and you don't know what the fuck you're doing, man.Every time we leave, we, we, we put the reins in your hands to drive the horse, the horse fields off the track. And this happens time and time again. And I'm letting you know, like I'm not going to change nothing. There's only one thing I can change in that. And then if you think I'm going to change everything in a date year, two years, three years, six years, one day, two months, one more following moment.Fuck all that shit. All fucking man. But you know what? The fact of the matter is I made it here. I'm taking a lot of advice I'm doing, you know, but I'm not doing everything the way that I should be doing it. I'm doing it the way that I should be doing that guys of like this moment that I made it here and the listener that if you're out, down, I'm letting you know, man, if you're struggling, man, I get it.You know what? I'm going to let you know, you know, like, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm open game, you know, you can get at me however you want. You know, I can get it. You know what I mean? I'm still back in the community. I don't stop. You're part of the community. You never left it, but I'm, I'm here, man. And I want to thank you to everybody.Whoever requested that they haven't heard, they haven't seen. You know, it's very important to me to know that I still hold some type of a, you know, a boundary to where I could come and, and express you. But this is probably going to be the most honest expression and that I have for you today, because I'm going to honestly come to this format and let you know that, um, yeah, my shit ain't together, you know, I I'm, you know who who's in actually come up here and go, Hey, everything's great.I got, oh, I got this going on. I got, they're going to have me. Everything's cool. Everything's smooth. Everything's got, you know, right. Not on any of that bullshit. No, man. It's like, I'm here to let you know that, um, what's going on with that giants man. Giants could come to the table, man. I'm a giant, you know, I come to the table and I'm gonna let you know that there's a giant second that, that have fought this thing, man, and have battled it and have, you know, actually stood strong on their own two feet and have one.But Smitty was telling me on the, over, on the way over here, right. When we got in the car, I go, look, man, we just, this could be a little bit, it's a little different way. We're going to have to go about this. We're going to have to get in there and we're going to have to let the listener know that, um, that, uh, everything isn't always going to be, what we're going to feel it's going to be.And that's always running to come with all these things that we're going to come and see all everything's cool. Everything's all right. Sometimes everything. Isn't all right, because part of what is, what would you tell him? I ain't gonna forget cause I fucking stroke. Please try to remember what you told me.Dig deep. You said something about, uh, What would you say? I'm glad you don't remember, because I don't even want to, I don't even know if he knows where he's at right now talking about no, no, no, bro. I didn't warn you about talking about shit, bro. I just told you straight out. You said something about when somebody hits a certain time when they do a, what it starts with an R read labs, what would you say the sentence?What was the sentence when you start relapsing too much or whatever, when you, you really forgot what you said, you said it like in the way that the program states the state of like the 12. You forgot the 12 steps to, well, let me let her know. Listen, I was really thinking was going to let them with the sky was going to park God.And could you forget that? Let me ask you a question. I think I kind of understand and I'm, and I'm not going to try to be disrespectful or anything about what's going on, but that's a hard one. I know it is. And it, and you first and foremost, I want to congratulate you for coming in. Yes, I thank you for coming because I, I want to say that you know how to show roles and all that other kind of stuff.And for you to come in is really in line with the spirit of what the show is, which is honesty, right? Uh, this is the one where like the listener could go look at this poor mother fucker sitting up there and he got guys emotions like this motherfucker, we got there's people out there that will actually take that.Cause they were working on the Eagle type of thing. Well that you don't care about. Anyway. Fuck. Those people hate me, bro. Believe me. It's a lot. I want them off the show. I'm even married to this man that runs the show there. Yeah, man. But I am going to ask you, I'm going to, I'm curious about this at what point and what do you think.Caused the car to go off the rails for you. I knew that I shouldn't see, and I know you tomorrow and I knew that question was like really coming. But if like, like if I, if I, if I, if I not to complicate any, any, he like to just be simple and to come straight, I feel it was a number of things. And if we, if we could start, like, if you really like, like in the, like for the listener, like let's start with the excuses.Cause we're gonna like use excuses to, for the reasons why, like, what am I sit up here and tell you what car would never ever w w the car, what, when did it ever go off the trail? Like, so if somebody does something in a manner to where they. Defeat the purpose of what we, it is that we were taught when we come into something which could be a 12 step program.We could be a Victor outreach church or whatever it is that we want to change in ourselves. What, what is the reasons why we get to a certain point in our time and all of a sudden, just because of everything we learned, like everything that, that I learned that I was taught to do, to keep myself, to keep me from being what I believe in, which is a zero tolerance policy situation that I preached so hard and, and go drastic measures to, to like, have people believe this certain things.And, and to like fully be honest, when I hit a podium and tell people everything that I'm seeing as a truth, and then not follow up to what ex exactly. I said, it's always, what was the reason why that, that you feel that it happened? One of the reasons why I feel that I've been is because I don't like to feel any fear.And let me tell you what I did look. So anyway, I got him to this dude, man. I know you guys are very familiar with them. I watched the interview. I know he's a brother. His name is Kevin. Something. He has black something enterprises on a stomach of Kevin Gates. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. And I watched the interview with him the other night and I really like sat and I listened to this dude and everything he said, and basically this, this dude, Kevin Gates, dude, I listened to what he was saying as like those theories and all those concepts that he believed in.It like helped me for the night. Cause I needed something because something very bad was about to happen. And I was really, really, really, really. About to like, just do what I had got to a point to where I was like, this is not going to happen right now. And then it was really like, um, half of my brain was telling me, you know, that's not gonna, it's gonna happen because you're in a position to where you can just get it, let it happen.And you're going to let it happen. And I put this dude on and it prolonged anything from happening for a little while, but anyway, it kept me for a minute and I listened to him. I really listened hard, man. And it's like, It's like, I kind of feel I'm in a kind of a position. Like he has. It's like, I went through my life, he explained through the pain and the pain and all he really wants.And there's no TV in his house for a reason because all I really wanted in my life, I feel that I'm at a point in my life, but really like the question that I'm going to answer. Cause you just asked it is I feel that I feel that I have like, uh, I have not my mother, I don't have a mother. I have no mother.I have my, my father's not around. There's like having no family members. I have, I have my son and I have my, you know, my, um, my significant other, which is the, um, how would we like my mother, my son's mother, or, you know, my ex my, I would call her my ex, the mother of my son. That, that I think right there, I was pushed.I'm going to blame her, but I was pushing the direction to where I'm just doing the same thing and I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. I'm doing what everybody tells me to do. And I keep doing that. And then I, I met with one, so something that I was, that, that dropped them. So I said, I'm going to get through this.And I, and it was in a situation to where it was kind of heavy. So I got through it and I, and I held onto it and how they got worse, you know, things just kept piling up in that area. Then I took on another thing. I added some more trains, you know, I add the cars to the train because once the train gets in, I'm the type of guy who wants to, I, once that starts to train and I get the motion, I add cars on the train.Every time I hit stop, I have. So I kept putting cars onto the train. Um, you know, and then I added another car and I thought I put the, you know, another car and I'm thinking, here's the car that's going to fulfill me and make me feel whole about myself. And that's going to fix me. And it's the car that, you know, and it's like, it could be deceiving.You know, we could look at the situation like, you know, you could look at it like everything is going one way and the cars rolling good until we hit them. When we hit a stop in the, and then the bag is empty, you know, and that baggage comes out. Now I'm rolling with an empty car, you know, uh, one time, uh, when Steve big Lux was, uh, mentoring me right.Uh, he gave me, he told me, this is what big luck said to me from on high. It came down from some, I'm just sending our next guest a message about to come back in a little while. Okay. And what he said, thank you for that. And then what he said was he said to me that. Can you, this is what big luck said. I never forgot it too.And we're talking about like 20 years ago, maybe, maybe 18 years ago. And he said to me, he said, you know, listen, he goes, listen, uh, relapsed. Okay. That doesn't happen when you pick up a relapse starts long before the pickup. And he's telling me this, and I remember being like a little fat kid and listening to that and thinking like I asked, right.So in some level I kind of follow what you're saying in the sense of like, there's a lot of cars got on it, but just like really just out of curiosity, internally for you. Right. Big thing. That might be one thing or things that may be considerable things that led you to that. Go ahead. COVID yeah. How so?Lay that out. What are believing them? Well, the paranoia from it through more with the people that was around me, where the environment I'm in, there was people that were like, like I looked at it, like if you get a, you get a, you get past it, whatever. There was a lot of. You know, I was in my environment was there's people that, that, you know, we got, you know, so there was tension.I felt like yard tension. Like the people that I was living on my side kind of put myself, like I was living in like a, in a, in a, in like when you're institutionalized, you're going to have like, you're going to have four races that don't. So with COVID, you're going to have two or three races that are looking at like people, not racist, but individuals who have a certain outlook on how, you know, it's not going to hit me, get the shot, don't get the shot, you know, and it, it was like, that was some of it and not in the first year, but as we went into the second year, it was like a little bit stressful move with me for that, I think.And also I shut down. You know, and I'm trying to, it was like, like I shared, I got to a meeting. Finally, I got to a meeting, uh, Thursday night when they go up Thursday, what'd you get over there? Listen, listen. I mean, big, big level. Why, why you're telling this really human story. I'm also watching fucking Schmidt being outsmarted by a water bond.It's going to fail. He's gotta be smarter than the lidtake it. So I told him, I told him, Hey, throw that shit up for the, for the picture. He goes, I don't know any motherfucker, any motherfucker. You got to take both his fingers and twist them in the middle of the, put the west side up. It's like take the head of the fucking and put in his brand Starbucks.People are looking at, I was like, I'm like, Hey, like what is this dude doing to his fingers? I'm trying to twist me the wrong way. That's good. That works. I can use both hands up. Hey, how come you got a neon, yellow fucking hat Carhartt. I got all that. Everybody knows that I'm different than all the other people.Oh, they know, they know you throw the DOB ups. Yeah. Yeah. He did it without the. Also my health also when I'm, um, when, uh, when this dude he had that stroke, you know, we had that health thing, a lot of listeners will know that we went through, uh, like, uh, uh, ma not medical. It's like, um, fuck, I lose these words, man.I get like this dude, it's the, yeah, well, no, not just the stroke is that I'm an unhealthy reasons. So my health was deteriorating without me admitting it. So I started noticing that I had got this stroke and that kind of like tripped me out a little bit. And then, you know, they were, you know, there's some stroke game, the bag of the Saturday when we were at the w the last time I was here, I remember he doesn't remember shit.This is not funny Schmidt. No, it ain't. No, I remember the w when I got the cane, I'm walking with the cane, like, I'm an addict. I'm going to. If my back is fucked up, I'm going to make sure I get some pain pill. Cause I'm not, you know, I'm not that far when I can maintain some pain pills cause of my back.Cause I wasn't fucking, there was one of y'all now, so I'm not going to be like, oh yeah, that's another fucking excuse. So you have some back pain, you got other pain pills. You could have taken some more junior could have done well, when you, when you start taking everything that really ain't really working, you're gonna fall back on the painkillers.So I maintain that for a minute. I did it the way I supposed to, you know, I might've, you know, like the first bottle, I mean, it's true. It does, you know, and I did, I've never taken pain pills as prescribed. That'll always, always right. I swear to God, I got to about a doctor handing them to you. Clears you of any wrongdoing, you know, like you lay on it, open it all up, man.I didn't ask to be sick. I didn't tell the doctor. Hey, let me tell you though, bro. I'm lugging. Have my teeth pulled out. Right. And the doc gave me a fucking big old canister of fucking pain pills that was supposed to last a week. They were gone in one day easily. Fuck. Yeah dude. You're like, oh, I was like, dude, I was like tripping bro.I was like pink flood. I was like, hello? And you're like looking at the thing. Oh, do my feet. My hands felt like five feet thick, almost like glom and shit. And I was happy. I was actually fucking exactly. I was actually, and it didn't work for me like that this time we worked for me this time is I got him and I tried, I actually got him with where I was, you know, in my state of wellbeing.I got him and I go, I'm going to follow directions. I'm going to be the one this time, you know, y'all, I'm going to be the one that says I'm going to do everything it says for me to do. And that happened a little bit in the beginning until like, until I got down to like 12 and I was like, okay, well I gotta add, you know, it was, I could put some more and then I got through those and then I was cool.Listen, I shook it. I was cool. You know, I'm back to normal. Everything's good. And then some. Nan. I knew that, you know, the tension like more tension came, like it hit me more with more tension, more drama, some more shit. Like, you know, this didn't happen, right. This th th the call didn't come through quick enough, the texts wasn't there.It could be a number of things like this. This happened, that happened. I think I'm going to explain another thing. So I got out lucky, lucky me and lucky know each other. Real good, man. We're real close. One time I was talking over just talking man. And he asked me a question, you know, I met him somewhere.We went you a little function. I met up and sat down with him and he got me, you, it was just sitting there. If you could read between the lines, you know, read between them. And if you can't just, just take the listener, just drive, you know, we driving the bus, right. He was getting, you know, just relax on the bus, listen to the music.So I hit lucky up. I'm like this, you know? So what's up with this. He's like, so lucky. That's all. Hey, what's up with this man? Like, he was like, how's that? How's that? How are your situations going on? I go, they going cool. This what's up. And he goes, man, you know, like, then that don't like dentists and like sound too, like, like legging, like he like knew like, and we both looked at you.I said, yeah, well, you know, I can handle it. And he goes, oh no, man, I'm going to have a motherfucker like that. Some shit like that was semi straight out. And I'm like, well, yeah, well it ain't going to send me. I can, he was on, he was, I don't know, man, you like you in that area, you need to, like, you need to back up on me.Like, you know, you a G I known you a long time and you need like, take a step back. And that's like, the more that he was telling me to take a step back, I was like, he could tell him my face. He's like, like, I know you, ain't gonna say like, you're gonna, like, when you leave out of this, after this conversation, you can like, take a step five more further.I know how you get down, bro. Like you a real motherfucker. You're gonna go. Like, if you do anything, like you do it, you go all the way, man. You go hard from the gate and. It's like, you're not just going to put, you know, two or three sugar. Like if you drink sugar in your coffee, you're not putting two or three in there.You got four, you going all the way with it. So I, and the advice that I'm giving you, man, is like, it's like, he gave me that, like, if I would've, if I was stood on that advice that day and did what I was really supposed to do it, might've still prolong whatever it is that I thought I was going to do down the line, which I, they listened to us and need to know wherever the fuck I'm at.But to really be honest with you, the listener is just that I'm letting you know, man, I'm this type of individual. If you don't know me, you don't mean, well, you research, whatever the fuck you eat. If you don't research start researching the fact that I'm not afraid of. No, I really am. I get to a point in my life when I started doing dumb shit, it starts going through my head that maybe I, um, then maybe my time's up here, you know, maybe I said enough or I did enough.And it was like, that was going through my head at early, before anything happened. It was like really going through my head, like, cause I get already visualized. Cause like I'm blessed with a gift that I can actually know where I'm going to go before I get. And I believe that I was already, some things were telling me where, and I was like, you know what, I, I know where this is going to lead.I already played the table and I knew, but I still, I'm still one of those dudes that wants to hold on. I want to just hold on, man. I want to hold on. And I want to keep trying to be a controlling individual and do anything it takes. And, and even like that, we have that conscious, you know, you have that, you have that conscious, deep down and goes, you know, this shit ain't gonna work out, but you got the problem.There's a problem. There's a piece of. That wants it to work out so badly and believes it. That's why you're doing a believes. You might be able to change it this time, but then there's the other half of you, that's telling you, you know how this goes when you're in the middle of that. Yeah. Like, because you don't like defeat, you know, like even though, you know, he wouldn't give up, no, you know, the area, like you don't know exactly what the area and you know exactly where it is, what the outcome's going to be, but then again, you don't, but you're taking about 1% and stretching that it might work.Cause dealing with you're dealing with individuals or an individual you're dealing with individuals who you kind of like, look at the situation and you want to take that chance you are taking that chance. You're fucking taking. Then you're like, well, you know what? And then if you really research and you really smart, if you really like game up and you'd like, really go in, you know, you really realize the fact that you're actually competing with somebody who is exactly identical or most.Close to what you might be going through. Well, well, you know what, I'm listening to this and I'm thinking about it. And I'm thinking like,there is a piece that I, when I'm hearing you talk, bro, there is a piece that I do wonder as lucky the father, right? What you go through because on a certain level, it's all well and good. The games we play when it's just us. Yes. Right? Yes, yes. Right? Yes. Yes. Jumaan there. It's all well and good. And, but there's another piece of this component and I want an eye and I'm curious now I'm not even curious.I'm actually hoping that something that I say goes into the category. Like this, this is more important than me. Hi, I'm Randy. And this is Dave. 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Plus, if you're looking for more classic hits, you can stream every episode of parks and recreation, two and a half men, and every season of SNL in the mood for something brand new, check out peacock's original comedies, the Amber Ruffin show and say by the bell, whether you're creating a new binge, a familiar face, you can find tons of comedy hits on peacock.Get started for free@peacocktv.com. you know, we, so let me tell you something. When I was a real bro, when I was a little boy. Okay. I didn't have a mom, right? You at least had your mom. Okay. I didn't have a mom at all. What a, how was an alcoholic overweight father? For a long time, but there was a period of time that I idolized him when I was like four or five, because I didn't know everything yet.All I knew was I was real small and he was real big and I thought he was all powerful. Like, like for me, I was like, man, that's the strongest student. I was so happy that he was on my team because he was so big. He could protect me. He could protect me from what's out there. Maybe protect me from other men or a duck.And the thing is, is there came a point in time in my young Innes where I saw my dad weak. I saw him weak and it fucking broke me, bro. It broke me so hard that demand that I looked up to that I, you know, Love, like I loved him and I needed him was actually not as strong as I thought he was. And as a young man that broke me and it took a long time for me to understand everything a long time, but it was very confusing and it was disheartening.And I look at you big lap and I'm like, man, that's a big dude. That's a big why. And, and, and, and, and everybody sees you like that. A mountain. Uh, mountain that absorbed bullets, a mountain that, you know, got real close to fucking death, a mountain that doesn't care about.you know that right. We're filming. Where are you filming that camera though? I ain't tripping. Right. So when you're thinking about when you, I mean, all kinds of, and while you're talking, I got a bunch of shit, but there's people like you, you know, they want it, like I'm still, no matter what happens, I still am in that position to where I still want to do what I'm doing is I, am I got the, can they wait for a minute?I just tell them that I got, I just let him know, like, I'm not I'm doing this. Well, I guess what I'm trying to, I guess maybe enlist is a good example and I'm not trying to come down here. Maybe it's hard for you to be responsible for somebody else. Yeah. Well, at this point, yeah, at any point, at any point I just said, I just said yesterday to somebody, I cry, you know, like I got emotional with somebody yesterday.I told him and I said, listen, he, right now, I'm at a time in my life where I need to like look out for myself. And when I look out for a whole bunch of other people, but you gotta remember something too, I'm coming from a place to, to Mohan. I want you to know I'm coming from a place where I went from, from like, like a yard skid row situation shift, right into another situation through that I've been through throughout my life, like over and over and over again.Like not once, not twice, not three times, not four times. Right? Like throughout my life. And in order for me to go in there again, it's like got people. Don't like, you're not going to do it that way. We want you to do it this way. You're going to go in and sit up here and you're going to do it like this, and you're going to do it like that.You're going to do it like this. And it's like, I'm almost to the point today and I'm not going to listen. I don't give a fuck. I'm going to let you know right now. I, because I'm at a point to where like, people are like, I got people telling me we don't want that. We don't want that. We don't want that. And I'm not, and I'm not saying that I'm faced or anything or I'm taking the control, but I'm looking at everything that I have that I've accumulated.Like I get accumulated on my own. It didn't ever have no woman, nobody, nobody, but me. I accumulated that. I went to the table with it and I, and I did everything I was supposed to do. And everybody looking at it, like some bull, like you, that ain't shit, but we're willing to, like, we want to grab that from under you.And we're going to go on, on a program that we're going to set out in front of you. And that's kind of still hard for me to do because cause you like, what are you going to choose? You choose this. Or you choose to go over here and lay up here in doc. I will choose the other way to die. I listen, I understand.I'm not even going to be like, oh, I'm in here angry. Or I might be upset. I'm at the mercy of, of what, what you're saying or what everybody else around me, because I don't talk like that. I'm just telling you. This is what I'm telling you, identify with your son. You know why? Because he plays the saxophone, you know, who else played the saxophone?He did that for a week and then he got burned down. You know, who else played? The saxophone? Me, me too. Okay. And I looked at your son and I saw how happy and proud he was of you. That's the only thing I see, but I play both. He flat out on tenor. And the issue is, is as all I'm saying bigly, it's one thing to say like, oh, I can live this way or I could die that way.And it's all just me, but it really ain't man says young man, you know, we have a lot of dudes that come up through here that talk about a man wasn't in their life. And that led them to a life of crime. Of course, I have a lot of friends and in a similar situation to like, they might be my age, but they had kids later in life where you got kids, but you had more.So they're my age. And they're dealing with. Okay. I see a young man that's 12, 13, 14 years old. Right. And they're going through this shit right now. But now, currently to that, and I remind all my friends like that. I go, man, you can look at my life and use me as a perfect example. I was sober for like five years and doing it all my kids.And when I decided to relapsed Vincent was like 13. And it was the worst possible time that you disappear on a boy. But I really, really didn't wrap my head around it. I really didn't. I didn't. Then when he went to the joint, no, no, this is a, this is after this or 20, uh, 15, whatever years ago when I relapsed, after having some time I couldn't wrap my head around it.I don't know why. And I don't want to call it just plain selfishness or just. I could not stop using the pain or what I was feeling or what I was going through. There was one thing and I was after it's a solve that and I chased it and I fucking left my family, hanging my kids. And like, it's the only, even my prison terms.I don't say, oh, I wish I could redo, like, okay. But what I wish I wouldn't, the only regret I have is that I, that I left my son hanging in the most important years. What I feel of a man's life. I really did, bro. I left that kid hanging when he needed me the most. And I tell people like you and to different friends in that situation today, I'm like, bro, whatever you do wrong.Please because what you're showing him is what he's going to do. You're showing me he's going to want to do that. And I didn't understand that. And I came to find out that that was the truth man. And that what I was doing was affecting him so drastically. And I had no idea how I found that was when I found out the way you don't want to find out, or one of the ways you don't want to find out when it's already full-blown and this guy's doing exactly what I was doing.And it's like, just, I remember when I got that call, I was heartbroken in tears. My son didn't grow up like me. I didn't even grow up like me. So why is he shoving in his arm? But he was, you know, so it's, it's w you weld a lot of power, bro. We willed a lot of power, man. And sometimes we don't. Give knowledge to who's watching us, bro.Everywhere you go, people are watching you either good or bad. See your son is looking at how everybody looks at you and island. So you're at this place and your actions, man, affect everybody. But it's him. It's him that we're talking about right now, more than ever. I see. Yeah. And the thing is, is, is kids are, are super smart, right?So he's going to see you say whatever you say, and he's going to compare it to whatever else he's thinking and seeing himself. How about you say that he's going to use with you what I say, right. And he's also going to like go off of what everybody else has. Projecting also like, may it be his mother or people around or social individuals who might his, who his mother also put in her life at, uh, at the, at the time, like somebody who like you like got us, like, what do you do?I feel was like the major, like thing that dropped in my lap to where it did not set me up as it put like the motion in my head to where, like, what the fuck? Like this isn't fair. Like what, what isn't fair about it? No, you got to kick back to where it wasn't just a bunch of work. This is something that I don't need to, you know, like I'm not going to use this as, this is not going to be an excuse that I use.And I went and I wrote on that for a long time. Like, I'm not gonna do it like that. I'm not going to do it. But like I said, the cars fucking kept adding on. These cars kept adding over and over and over this man sitting next to me, he seen me, he sees me on the phone. He seen, it was like one time he looked at me.He says, well, like, what the fuck is going on? What are you doing? That's so wrong that these people kind of agree with that. You're doing like, what is it that they want? Like, what do you fucking want? Like, what do you want from me? What do you like actually want out of me? It's like, you give me, you give me all this recognition about how it's like you like, and it's also at the same time, like, like, like, like, like running a game on me, like I'm going to, like, you are not in that position because of the fact that like, uh, like where do you, how did you put me in any position?The only position you put me in. Threaten me that if I didn't do something about this, you, I was never going to see my son. And I'm stating that as that, that's the same thing that's happening. As we sit here at this moment, as I'm sitting here on the phone, I could be happening like right now, you're like, this is an ongoing process.Even when I was doing the right thing, like you're doing the right thing for so long, but yet you're getting blamed every day for not doing the right thing. And you're, you're, you're you're you have the same behaviors and you're not. And then I'm looking at this individual. Right. And I'm not going to put nobody out there, but you know, we know what the fuck.Yeah. I put you out there, you out of there. So yeah, you're doing one thing and it's not justifying whatever the fuck you're doing. Like, we're both getting looked at. You're wrong. I'm wrong. I'm right. You're wrong? Yeah. It's going to get to the point who gives a fuck? What point it gets to, where are you going to go with it?Like, where are you going to take this today? Who gives a fuck? What happened last night? Who gives a fuck? What happened 10 minutes ago? Where are you going to go? When you set up off this fucking mic and you leave up out of this door, fucking. And the tag onto that too. I think it's the affects. I ain't even give them, I feel like that a lot of people and us included myself too, are not really considering, like, we talked about the effects we have on the people around us.Right. Once you're out of it and you're out of it and you're okay, I'm gone or whatever. But, but what I'm saying is you, as you're around longer, you gain more knowledge on something. Right? Right. You see deeper. And I'm going to give you an example real quick. We'll have more in deeper. You know, I said about my son, just now, how about when my son had his son rose heartbreaker and he couldn't show up because my son's getting loaded and I'm seeing his grandson.So now every time I engage my grandson, there's a piece of what he isn't getting, what he's being cheated out of because I taught his dad how to cheat your son out of his. Right. I taught my son. This is how you leave your son hanging XY. You fuck your kid up. And so he repeats it down. That's what I'm saying.The longer I'm at another level wisdom people want to ask me, how is it that you're not doing meth right now? You're not opting to go. Cause you know what, it's not just the program where it's not that it's experiencing. And I say some shit like that when I really see what the fuck I was doing and how deep this thing can go and carry on generations of just sickness.That's what made me step back, man. Like my actions affect. as we, as we're special, we're speaking, I'm looking at you, mom valued. And I, and I feel the vibe, the vibe right now is, is that like, fuck, what are we going through? It's all about our children, man. At the end of the day, it's the most important person that I can sit here and say it is, but is it really about your fucking child when you got the fucking needle dangling out your neck?Okay. No, I think it's things to think about once we're sober to start using, to really taking an investigating look at that. And if you're not clear, I don't think if I wasn't clear on that. And as in a pause or times where I have sobriety, I started to really look at that man. And I was, and it started to change me and I didn't want to look at that stuff.I really didn't want to investigate that. And as I do, the more really become so no lap. It's I'm I'm right with you. When somebody tells me, go ahead and stop for your kid. Do that. Oh, that didn't happen. They said all this to me and I still couldn't stop. But, but, but, but all right. Yes. And I'm going to say something because as a guy that successfully stacked up 19 years off of anything, all right, sure.And there's been millions of times on this show where I've said something that, that I feel like wasn't quite listened to because people think that it's easy for me. They put me in a separate category. I got 19 years. All right. Uh, sobriety and I'll tell you something. Part of it for me was,was that, all that shit. I talked about everybody else when I was weak and being abused by alcoholics and drug. All that motherfucking righteous indignation. I had to battle why I shouldn't change. I was becoming that I was doing it. I was that person as much as I was hurt and victimized by fucking alcoholics and drug addicts, I was doing the same motherfucking thing and I was lying one of them.So what shit was I talking? So big lab. When you talk about you, ain't got your mom and you talking to them about like, oh, listen or missing the most fundamental question in anyone's life is who the fuck is calling Schmitty right now in the middle of a fucking apartment felt Schmitty. Jesus Christ. Get off the phone, man.Did you eat for big Lux to lay out for everybody to hear the generational sickness that he had an opportunity to put a, to stop, to put an end to. And we're talking about his grandson is a little boy and listen, listen, his grandson is a vulnerable, beautiful, sweet, innocent, a little boy, and big luck shows up for him now.But at the same time, big lips, he bears the pain of whatever he's feeling. So, so, so, so I understand not wanting to feel anything. I get that, bro. I, I I'll fucking eat food that not fit. So I'm saying for you big laugh. So when you say like it I'm supposed to do for me and is that going to stop it? You're right, but that's a, that's a, that's, that's a, that's a path.Everybody already knows. The question is what's it going to take for big. To allow his heart to show his son how a man is supposed to live his life. Because one day your system is going to take action. It's going to take action and footwork and doing whatever. What it's going to take for me is I don't like, like people to like, like I'm putting a position to where, where it's like, like you like, all right, I'm in a situation where I have this going, but yet you haven't seen your son.But I'm doing all these fucking things, you know, it's like, I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go. When do you want me? But then no, you're not ready to go. You look this way, you look that way you changed you. This all this fucking shit. How about when everything was like gravy, everything was cool. And I was like, doing everything, like straight as a fucking, you know, walking that line straight, everything.It was the same fucking deal, man. Let me tell you something. I'm like, how long is a motherfucker? Like, just put up with that and just sit up with that. And it's like, it gets to a point and somebody there's a boiling point. I don't give a fuck who you are. No, no, no, no. You know what? There is one point, like it's still a choice and I'll tell you something.I'm a family law lawyer. Okay. Listen, you know how many dads I've worked with? They can't see their kids because of some bullshit from the mother. Uh, you know how many it's all my fault. That's all I hear. Listen, listen, listen, this is a woman I'm not talking about it. I'm not talking about whose fault it is.Even if it is somebody else's fault, right? What's that what's that got to do with you and you're showing up may be not picking up what's that got to do. I'm trying to fucking show up and I'm not given the opportunity to show up in the, in the manner that it doesn't matter. That part, listen. No, no, no, no, no, no.It doesn't matter. No, it doesn't listen. I'm not saying it's not important. You're right. You're right. But what I'm saying is. If you die on the end of a needle, you ain't ever going to show up. That's all exactly. That's what we're getting at now. We don't like people listening, like, oh, we turning this into a relapse relation ship show each other.Let me finish the sentence. Okay. God damn. Cause we love you. We love you. That kind of finish the sentence, man. It's like, yeah. The point of the matter is to me was like, no, it's like, it's like we're with the world. I made a point like in my life right now at this minute, I'm at a point to where like I like, okay, everything is biting everything past.So I'm at a point today where I'm at. Right. And I know where I, and I know where I'm going. I know I need to get you. And I know I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there regardless of what they tell me, you tell me wherever it was. You got people shutting shit. Yeah. Like in other words, you know, you're at a point where I, yeah, you shut down, I'm going to shut you down.I got to do whatever it takes. I'm going to shut it. I'm going to shut everything down until I get to what I got to get to. Right. You don't even want to know how I woke up this morning. Come on. You don't even want to know. And it's not even good for me to put another, cause it doesn't matter because you're gonna have people.Because if I tell you, I woke up this morning by next week, everything is going to getwake up. I wake up, man. I'm not going to say nothing. I know. I know what I'm doing, bro. Look, I wake up this morning, right? I don't give a fuck because you know what? I, I stand amongst you gentlemen. Then I stand amongst you as not as a man, I stand amongst you in the eyes of a spirit man. The spirit that guides.It doesn't matter what two tells me, what, who tells me what, anything I'm guided by a fucking spirit man, a spirit that wants me to live more than it wants me to die. My mother used to tell me, Hey, you know what? The heart is, the older you get, the harder the run. You know, I believe in that. And I, in other words, these runs are getting hard and they're going to get harder.And they going to keep getting harder is what you're going to do in order to how are you going to stop or where you feel you're going to stuff. And everybody. You know, and step on a wheel always tells me, stop taking this shit out on yourself. It's sending me back in a bloke. So it's like, instead of me going over there and telling him, telling him, oh boy, you know, the other half of my woman a while, what I really feel right.If I really go over there and let them know what my feelings are. Right. You know, my feelings is either, you know, you know, what's going to happen. I'm going to be sitting. I'm going to be calling you as a lawyer to tell you like, look, I don't know why that gun went off, or I don't know why this fist went upside.Is that in back of it? You see? So if I'm putting like, like I'm going to say, what, what, what would I rather do I wait? All right. Do I go over there? Do I go over there and do this? I mentioned, you know, do I go over there and do that? No, because what's going to happen is that's going to be fiscal fast, quick, and in a hurry incarceration.And then, and then I play the tape and I'm like, then my son's going to see what type of manner I act. And that's is that enough manner to act then to, is this he's this dude doing enough? Like, so I get up my son, cause I'm still on the verge to ask my son, Hey, how's everything over there is everything cool.Like prior to investigation, is everything going good at that house is everything. And I haven't heard nothing negative with my son, but then I got the other words telling me some other shit. And then I got the dude taking me, like, come on here, I'll drive you home. Right. Let me let, let me roll. You. You, you, you were rotting.You do taking me pulling off to the side of the road, knowing that I'm injured, talking about, come on, you know, like what's up. I mean, yeah. Well what's up, you know, like, yeah. You're the one that pulled over to the side of the room and asked me to get into him. He told me he got to come about it. Yeah. It was cracking.You know, it's like, I don't play chess, but the next move is like, what's up right here. I am like, I do. I need that. That's another thing that built me to the point to where he checked us out. Like, like what the fuck. Like, all I'm trying to do is be a right individual in the eyes of whoever it is. I'm trying to inspire, you know, and listen, and you are an inspirational dude, and this ain't directed at you, homie.I ain't dragging this at you, but let me put it to you this way. I have a friend. Okay. I'm going to say it like this, because now you're putting the situation out there where I kind of understand where you're coming from. You're saying, look, you know, I mean, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm going to show you a way.I'm going to show you a solution. I can listen to this. This is real man. Listen. Okay. Listen, I got a friend who's real close to another friend and his real close friend got himself in a situation that's through no fault of his own. It's real fucked up. Okay. Now my friend might handle things a certain way.When the shit goes down, it goes like this. But my friend called, uh, an attorney, right. To figure out the options from a legal perspective. Right? Like what if you were to like take care of business, take care of business. That's right, right. I'm there. I know. And it's not all, it's also strategy. Right. And there's not a person on God's green earth that wouldn't understand why my friend might want to take care of business in a certain way.Okay. There's not nobody you could kill from the sheriff to the fucking homeless. They'd all understand like, oh, okay. Yeah. Murder was, I don't know. No, I mean, I'm not saying now I'm just saying what's that called murder? I don't know what you're talking about that. No, listen, listen. I understand what you're saying.I, listen, I got a way to handle it. I got a way to handle this. All right. Right. Certain things were hammered out and done in a way that business was taken care of, but not in a way that was going to make everything go real south real fast. So what I'm trying to tell you is, is that solvers meaning what?The worst? No, no, no, no. So Southern south sides, the best we're talking about, what's the worst thing that could happen. Um, I can't tell you that. I don't know. I can't imagine it, but if you can read between the lines, which you can. Okay. Right. Cause there might be blow back and there's a whole problem. But what I'm trying to tell you is when you get into a place as a human, as a spirit where you feel like it's either this or that, okay.I'm telling you from experience that that's a false dilemma. It's not really this or that. There are other options, but it does take. Uh, pause and you do have to let someone else drive to do the little thing. That's all I'm trying to get to you brother. Cause I understand what another thing too. I want to point out.It's another thing that everybody was feeling like, you know, like they, the dude next to me right here, I'm going to explain. So now you're going like a month, some months, like 2000. When I started talking, I said 2022, it hits. So from then on a little bit, after a little bit of 2021 from the time man from that time.So in other words, you, you, every time you go to where you want to lay your head, like you go, you you're, you're in a situation where your home is your, your domain, where it's peaceful. You want to go to a place where you feel at peace. And it started to get like that with, with, uh, it started to get to the points with me, where I was going through a situation where I knew there wasn't peace.I was seeing my, my, um, you know, It got to the point where I was like, I wasn't, it sounded that I felt, I wasn't feeling the inner peace with myself. I was not really feeling the inner peace with myself because of the people that were that they're not really, that I, that I had, like, I'm going to say, oh, well, I, what I say goes, or what if they don't run those, you know, like if we're on the yard and you don't do the burpees you get in.Right. I'm not, I'm not going in a situation like that. I'm going in a situation like, like I want to be able to come somewhere where nobody's hanging on my watch each individual who is going through the same thing that I'm, I'm probably going through now. I watched a certain individuals and I kept looking at it and I go, damn, I don't want that to happen to me.I don't want to, I don't want to be like that guy. I just saw this guy goes through this and all. And it's either about finances or romances is either behind a dude getting in a relationship green. Right. It was either a dude getting in a relationship. And I was watching, I was watching, I was watching in the back of my head.I'm well, I'm not going to let that happen. I'm not gonna let that happen. I'm not going to have, while it was sitting in. Well, little by little I'm I'm telling myself the cunning baffling and powerful thing. That's that I'm not even realizing it's in my head actually saying to me, that's not going to happen to you.That's not grammar. And little by little, I started noticing, but it is happening saying it as you move intoit's like when you're riding a bike and you can see you're going to fuck up before can't turn, that's not going to happen. That's not going to have a look. And none of it driving into the fucking, the border right by the border guys were there and he had the shit and he was like, ah, man, but there's nothing to getAnd I'm like, and I'm looking at it like this now. And in the back of my mind, I was like, wait, and then you start noticing that a little bit of everybody, everybody that you're around. Yeah. It's like everything that you're, that they're experiencing, you're, you're feeling the same effects of that happening.And it was like getting serious, so I wasn't even watching. So they came in on one guy and he said, you missed two for domestic violence. Has a standup pajamas, brown your back. I look at, I go, well, that ain't going to happen to me. Cause I'm not in over there messing around this scratch. But wait a minute, if I keep it at some point, if I'm fighting with somebody in that type of room, but I'm not going to put myself, but I started noticing that I was getting pushed 10, that, that, like you want to like take it all the way you got, even to where it was even, he was even getting to the point to where there was some, like things that I never thought I was.To somebody else and things were being said, and things were in there and I would ever hang. And then, and then even on another and another scale I was, God was putting myself in a position. Nobody else. I don't put nobody in my own self. I was putting myself in a position to do things right, where I thought this individual is putting me in a position where I've never been.I've never had any other individual put me in this position to lead me to up to the points where I would make myself look like this. And I went ahead and I made myself do exactly what I thought I wasn't doing, which. Because of the fact that w I had put, you know, I wasn't in my right from a mind, of course, I'm not going to go and blame.Oh. Because I did what I did and I did. And it doesn't matter what I did. And it doesn't matter if I try to figure out who's doing what, or what are you doing or where you're at with it, or where do you, what are you gonna do with it? What are we going to do at the end of the day? I'm the solution to, what's going to happen to this?When I leave up out of here, I could say, as a man, honestly, honestly, in the listening, well, you leaving about it. There are you going to be all right? When you hear about it, I know I'm not going to fucking be all right, because I'm going into a place where I'm not feeling at peace. So if you're going to be like, well, if you're not feeling, are you, how about you?You feel at peace when you go back, be honest, not late. St. John, you gotta be careful. Y. So you see, so we brought the same person over here, so they kind of explained now, when you talk, you gotta be careful what you're talking about, because if you really want to get honest, I have no problem with that, man.You're you, you're on man. We're men hold up. We're not children. You're a man. So you know, this is a, if you feel this is a good platform for people to know what the fuck is going on, you're an honest man, you still sincere. And a lot of what you say, right? That's why I got that fallen out or whatever that's going on without joking around, man.I seen any jokes, no jokes. It's been a long fucking ride regardless of what we've been through or what we're doing or whoever's out there like what the fuck is really? What the fuck are these dudes even talking about? Like, what do you got one motherfucker? You know, he stands tall, you know, and tell, you know, fuck all that.We remove everything. We come naked. Okay. She knew up in here, naked man, naked shit. Tell us, tell us what you, what you, what you, what you're going to tell him. Uh, I, what I was going to say, how I don't feel, uh, secure or I don't feel in a good place, you know? Cause we do, we do have a sobriety or a UN uh, help.I am, I lost all of our, we have, because we live in a sober living house. It's hard to express the truth we're full right now. And it's not a good feeling when yeah. Okay. Let me tell you something. Let me see if I could turn into a hypothetical something that's not, when I worked and soberly, I used to work at sober living in Malibu while I went to law school.Right. And I can tell you straight up, I know for a fact that that sober living had dirty people living up in there because they could afford the rent. All right. So I can see where you could be in a sober living and you might not feel like maybe you're supported. So I'm not necessarily saying that's the issue here.I'm just saying I could see it that way. Right? Now Schmidt, let me ask you a different question. And all of the warnings still apply and this isn't live so we can delete it out if we have to, because it will all in protect the innocent and all that good thing. But from your perspective, what did you see with the challenges that big LEP was like?Did you, did you notice, uh, challenges coming up or how was your experience kind of, because I was in the orange Thorpe house, uh, for awhile there and everybody started using it. It started a little, some guy, one guy and another guy, and then the young guys come and fuck, they're using the whole back of the whole back room to sell speed out of the back of the house.Right. And so you saw trouble on that summer, everybody high and everybody lying necessarily worried about another house that we actually had to go intervene and do what. The manager was t

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HLS: Ep. 268: John Madden Boom!

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Warfare of Art & Law Podcast

Play Episode Play 60 sec Highlight Listen Later Feb 15, 2021 105:39


The following is a link to the Mosse Art Restitution Project. To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.Show Notes:9:30 - Berlin art dealer Karl Haberstock11:30 - Lepke and Union auctions13:30 - Berliner Tageblatt23:50 - Washington Principles27:30 - Three Dancing Maidens fountain, Berg Schlitz51:00 - German museums, Museum Island1:02:00 - http://www.lostart.de1:06:00 - https://www.mari-portal.de1:11:00 - restitution of Winter or Skaters from Arkell Museum1:15:00 - restitution efforts within Poland1:17:00 - restitution efforts within Israel1:21:00 - Germany's holding of Karl Blechen's Scholastica 1:25:00 - restitution efforts within Russia 1:31:00 - restitution efforts within Israel1:40:00 - restitution efforts within the NetherlandsTo leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast, please call 1.929.260.4942 or email Stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. © Stephanie Drawdy [2021]

The Hard Luck Show
HLS: Ep. 148: Chino and Big Lepke

The Hard Luck Show

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 14, 2021 129:05


Your Bluetooth will hit the iron pile when Chino regails the Virus Bunker of the tales of Prison Yore, Big Lepke also makes an abominable appearance with Big Lucks as they share stories of glory when West Side Giants roamed the earth, Chumahan and ‘Ol Blue Eyes listen as Chino talks about the golden days of prison in the 1980s when you still had tobacco, how he met a young Lucky and took him under his wing, the conversations as they walked the yard, what the code is on the inside, the delights of working the kitchen and cinnamon rolls, hear another crazy Big Lepke menu item on his “Insane Meals I Ate In Prison,” list hear Chino's well-earned wisdom, find out what it takes to survive a life that kills most and become a better man for it, this episode is drizzled with histories and answers to mysteries, do not MISS. . Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-hard-luck-show/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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The Quidditas Factor
Hollywood Legend Gianni Russo Talks About Love, Family and Life Lessons.

The Quidditas Factor

Play Episode Play 60 sec Highlight Listen Later Dec 22, 2020 59:37


Gianni Vito Russo is an actor, producer, entrepreneur and singer. He is best known for his role as Carlo Rizzi  in the 1972 film The Godfather. Gianni was born in Manhattan, raised in Little Italy. Russo went on to act in more than 46 movies, including Goodnight, My Love, Lepke, Laserblast, Chances Are, The Freshman, Side Out, Another You, The Freshman, Super Mario Bros., Any Given Sunday, Seabiscuit and Send No Flowers.  Russo is also a singer. In 2004, he released a CD called Reflections that pays homage to Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin. Russo owns a wine brand, Gianni Russo Wines, which debuted in 2009. In his life he has met and interacted with many prominent figures such as Marilyn Monroe,  Frank Sinatra, Pablo Escobar and Pope John Paul II.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/quidditasfactor)

Dog In The Yard
"IN FOLSOM THEY WERE CHOPIN PEOPLES HEADS OFF". Westside Rebel Lepke

Dog In The Yard

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 21, 2020 52:54


OG Lepke grew up in the Crenshaw area of Los Angeles. He bounced between his mom and dad's homes as a kid and got into the street game early. He was attracted to the flash and sizzle of the street life. His Mom was a hippy who always had drugs around the house. Whether it was acid, weed, or mushrooms drugs were no different than having a candy dish out on the table. Lepke was so immune to it he once brought a bag of marijuana into his elementary school class for sho wand tell. He ended up like many gang bangers getting in trouble and doing time as a youth in YTS and eventually going to Mens central Jail in LA. Considered the Rikers Island of the west and to spending time up state at the legendary Folsom prison. He shares how the prison system is nothing more than a multi million dollar enterprise set up to keep people incarcerated versus truly helping felons become rehabilitated and a productive members of society. he has decided his life to this cause of helping those that are trying to overcome personal challenges whether its keeping someone from going to prison or helping those getting out of prison or trying to overcome an addiction issue. Lepke believes that we all need to have more positivity and love. Focusing on solutions not problems and having this be driven from within the neighborhoods and communities. Lepke is living proof that its never too late to turn your life around, take accountability and drive positive change.

Gangland Wire
Frankie Carbo

Gangland Wire

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2020 37:56


Frankie Carbo- the early years Paul John Carbo (born Paolo Giovanni Carbo; AKA Frankie Carbo was a New York City Mafia soldier in the Lucchese crime family. He was a gunman and assassin for “Lepke”... The post Frankie Carbo appeared first on Gangland Wire.

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Kol Ramah
Riobamba by Leonard Bernstein

Kol Ramah

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 16, 2020 2:40


In 1910, Joseph D. Weil founded the College Camp and Pine Forest Colony, which later became Camp Ramah in the Berkshires. In 1939, shortly before his passing, he transferred ownership of the camp to his only child, Linton Weil. In 1942, Linton left Wingdale for New York City to open a nightclub in midtown called The Riobamba. Linton still owned camp, which Joseph's widow Rose operated in his absence. Linton funded the Riobamba, however, with $45,000 that he made from camp. Inflation adjusted for today, that's nearly three quarters of a million dollars! Its namesake being a city in Ecuador, the Riobamba's decorations had a Latin American theme to them. It was also inspired by a popular club of the time, the Copacabana. For Riobamba's opening night, Weil and his team brought in Jane Froman and the Chandra-Kaly dancers. Froman comissioned a theme song for the club, paying $50 to composer. Who was this composer? A not yet well-known Jew from Massachusetts named Leonard Bernstein! This song uses many different musical motifs as a window into meeting the different peoples and cultures who lived in Riobamba over thousands of years. The club became a huge success on day 1, partly thanks to this song being such an exciting opener. While this song itself is not well known today, Bernstein later used the material in his 1944 ballet Fancy Free. A few weeks after opening, Weil hosted a meeting in the Riobamba with other Broadway producers to plan out President Franklin D. Roosevelt's 61st birthday, happening at the Waldorft-Astoria hotel. The Riobamba also made history a few weeks after that, in March of 1943, when Frank Sinatra made his cabaret debut there. Linton Weil continued running the club for just under a year, until selling out his share in October of 1943. Another person associated with ownership of the club was infamous Kosher mobster Louis "Lepke" Buchalter. He was the head of the Murder Incorporated mafia contract killing organization and recieved the death penalty in 1944, the only American mobster to do so. Unforunately, the Riobamba was shut down by the authorities in December of 1943, a year after it opened, due to failure to pay taxes. Linton Weil went on to sell camp as well in 1945. Later in life, he at points owned the Wingdale Diner, and a Magnesium Quarry in Dover. He also worked as a stockbroker for Bache and Co. until his death in 1971. Thank you to camp's pre-camp historian Max Silverstone for bringing this special tune and uniquely New York information to Radio Kol Ramah!

Parallaxis
A lepke álmodik engemet – szimulált világban élünk? (ep. 37)

Parallaxis

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 12, 2020 58:52


Álom, vagy egy bugos szimuláció, esetleg egy párhuzamos univerzumból átszüremlő adatfoszlányok okozzák ezeket a furcsaságokat? Nyilván mi sem tudjuk, de jó rendesen kibeszéltük, körüljártuk ezt a témakört is legújabb epizódunkban.

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Critical Readings
CR Episode 56: An Introduction to Robert Lowell

Critical Readings

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 19, 2020


The panel reviews the biography of, and some selected works by, the twentieth-century poet Robert Lowell, including his "Falling Asleep over the Aeneid", "Memories of West Street and Lepke", and "Four Spanish Sonnets", with special attention to form.

Critical Readings
CR Episode 56: An Introduction to Robert Lowell

Critical Readings

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 19, 2020


The panel reviews the biography of, and some selected works by, the twentieth-century poet Robert Lowell, including his "Falling Asleep over the Aeneid", "Memories of West Street and Lepke", and "Four Spanish Sonnets", with special attention to form.

The Hard Luck Show
HLS Ep. 113: Big Lep-pacolypse

The Hard Luck Show

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 14, 2020 83:29


Your wireless speakers will burn down a police station when Big Lep takes a big step into the virus bunker bringing his new massive padawan pet Big Tim. Big Lucks, ‘Ol Blue Eyes and Chumahan rapaciously rummage through the beastly bombardment of Lepke-isms, find out what song Ol' Blue Eyes chose for Lepke, be boggled by Big Tim's whirlpool tales of Indio and drugs, get an update on Schmitty's bad snack and bad back situation, find out what fentanyl feels like, Lepke found out he had actual OD, Lepke talks about how fentanyl patches didn't do sh*t to him, and more! THIS SHOW WILL PUSH YOUR EARS OVER THE BORDERLINE!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-hard-luck-show/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The Hard Luck Show
HLS Ep. 106: Beirut Explosion: Alexandra

The Hard Luck Show

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2020 64:50


Your eardrums will be annihilated when Alexandra, Lepke's Lebanese acting coach, drops a mushroom cloud about the Beirut blast on Big Luck's, 'Ol Blue Eyes, and Chumahan, hear how the blast dwarfs the Oklahoma City bombing, hear exactly what happened, find out how and why ammonia nitrate is a fertilizer and an explosive, hear first-hand destruction, and how we can support the 300,000 displaced Lebanese through a grassroots Go Fund Me, hear about Lebanese history, Alexandra reveals her childhood's gruesome realities, seeing missiles striking across the red dawn, living months in a basement, drool and learn about what the best Lebanese food is and last and anything but least, find out about Lepke's acting potential, hear how he may have chops that would blow Marlon Brando or even Elizabeth Taylor out of the water, find out about Lepke's little, secretive, hidden inner-gems. This is an ambush of entertainment that will obliterate ignorance and boredom. WARNING DO NOT TRY TO WORK WHILE LISTENING, YOU'LL LOSE FOCUS AND F*CK SOMETHING UP.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-hard-luck-show/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The Hard Luck Show
HLS Ep. 104: Bobby Tribal

The Hard Luck Show

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 13, 2020 145:24


Your earbuds will move to San Diego when Bobby Tribal bombs the bunker with streetwear sagas and style legends in a once in a life-time tribal council with Big Lucks, Big Lepke, ‘Ol Blue Eyes, and Chumahan, find out how Tribal's roots broke ground and why Tribal is still alive and thriving through the hectic pandemic, hear the worst business advice ever given to Bobby Tribal, hear SOME AMAZING NEVER TO BE REPEATED PAULIE B stories (if you don't know don't ask) learn what Bobby's favorite Hard Luck Episode is, ear-witness high level branding dialogue between two experts: Bobby Tribal and Big Lucks and hear Lepke chime in on what he eats! Don't listen if you want to stay dead because this episode is guaranteed to jump you into real life!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-hard-luck-show/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

MDR KULTUR Diskurs
Mit den Wolken reden. Ein Atelierbesuch bei der Malerin Gerda Lepke

MDR KULTUR Diskurs

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 7, 2020 29:33


Seit je ist es die Beschäftigung mit dem Baum, dem Busch, dem Ast, was die Malerin Gerda Lepke interessiert. Der Blick aus dem Geraer Atelier in den Garten eröffnet diese Perspektive. Katrin Wenzel hat sie besucht.

The Hard Luck Show
HLS Ep. 102: Lepke vs Heroin & Schmitty...

The Hard Luck Show

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 6, 2020 46:42


Your Bluetooth will get dope sick when Big Lep hits the boisterous bunker with Big Lucks, 'Ol Blue Eyes and Chumahan to chop it up and vent on current events except with Lepke's side-winding, blinding, subject leaping, topic creeping, mudslide rollercoaster ride, peppy peptide, amplified stream of consciousness story-worm hole, you'll get lost in jazz, drift away in the best heroin high of all time, hear about gambling strategies, finally, hear how Schmitty was paralyzed in bed, sweating, and Big Lep had to carry him like a bride down haunted house steps to go get medical help, "The Bride of Lepke-stein," this show will throw your back out!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-hard-luck-show/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The Hard Luck Show
HLS Ep. 99: Blunt Force Lepke

The Hard Luck Show

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 27, 2020 80:47


Your bluetooth will get dizzy, Big Boys make some Big Noise when Instagram Jesus visits the bunker virus from Washington state, Big Lepke sits in, fits in and spits in when Big Lucks, “Ol Blue Eyes and Chumahan hit the Talk-togon, listen to the supreme team discuss current affairs before Lepke the Leapin' Leviathan hits a tangent so hard it tears the space time fabric, before you know it a West Side Portal opens up and Lepke details various cons he ran with hoes and where the real hoe stroll was, soon what was a current affairs show becomes a Lepke Affairs Show. You can't write anything as good as this episode is on the natural. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-hard-luck-show/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The Hard Luck Show
HLS Ep. 089: The Night Stalker P.1

The Hard Luck Show

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 22, 2020 106:03


Your earbuds will lock the doors when Big Lucks, Lepke, Chumahan, ‘Ol Blue Eyes and Weird Schmitty unpack, unleash, untie, unlock, unchain the demonic devilish details of the deadliest serial killer in Southern California, the notorious, nefarious, noxious Night Stalker, aka Richard Ramirez. Over four hours of twists and turns through the bizarre life of one the Evilest Killers to walk the streets, a devilish subject matter handled in the No Holds Barred Bare Knuckle(head) Hard Luck Style, deep insight starts where street smarts collides with book smarts. Miss this and you missed out. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-hard-luck-show/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The Hard Luck Show
HLS Ep. 071: LA Originals: Behind-The-Film

The Hard Luck Show

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 20, 2020 109:06


Your earbuds will hear the exclusive essentials that your eyes didn't see in “LA Originals” when Big Lucks and the crew pierce deep into the story behind the story with LA Originals Director Estevan Oriol, and the formidable featured homies Big Lepke and Skinhead Rob. Revealed: what it's like to work with Netflix, how Lepke and Estevan met, how Skinhead Rob and Lepke plotted against Kanye West's security,  how Estevan dealt with the onslaught of butthurt buddies who couldn't be fit into a 90 min. film, the full Lepke royal flush on his heroin addiction, Big Luck's history with Estevan, and the secret to a 30 year career in documenting LA's History & Roots on film. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-hard-luck-show/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The Hard Luck Show
HLS Ep. 066: The Wonderland Murders

The Hard Luck Show

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 2, 2020 160:43


Your bluetooth will be trapped between porn and horror as Big Lucks, Lumbering Lep, Chumahan and Dirt-Wiping Schmitty do a full-frontal fact-finding feature on “Four on the Floor,” but first, none-too-pretty Schmitty is put on the stand in the Trial Of The Stench-ury because no one believes an ant fell in his mouth, Big Lucks prosecutes and rebukes as Lepke Defends his little buddy with the scalping-judge that don't budge Chumahan presiding with no back-sliding, once Ant Eating Schmitty is rocked and penalty boxed, the show proceeds into the Wonderland Murders, learn how the infamous infinite-mess Porn Star John Holmes with the legendary bone got caught red hot between the Notorious Night Club Owner High Roller Eddie Nash and the schleppy, never-peppy Wonderland Gang, listen as Detectives narrate the gory scene with four bludgeoned bodies laying on the blood-drenched carpets of carcasses, hear how Lepke found a dead body fully rotting near there, hear how the murders inspired Boogie Nights, be amazed by the fact that no one was convicted, this is a heart-stopper and a mic dropper, all the while, with a smile Schmitty gnaws on a honey-bun like a Manatee eating Melted Brie. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-hard-luck-show/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The Hard Luck Show
HLS Ep. 065: Big Lucks, Lepke, Chumahan, Schmitty

The Hard Luck Show

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 30, 2020 178:32


Your headphones will be on a respirator when the Four Horsemen of the American Apocolypse do a Talk Down in the Lock Down, discover what song NEARLY makes Big Luck's tear up, here Lepke's peppy adventures in schlepping and toilet paper capers, Schmitty tells us about his drive-by with a .22 when his temper blew and how the SWAT got the drop on old bald top, hear Old Blue Eyes call in from where he's been and hear how his son quotes Big Lepke, this session is full throttle broken bottle, the faint of heart won't be coddled. Get immunized against weakness!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-hard-luck-show/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The Hard Luck Show
HLS Ep. 061: Coronavirus, Schmitty, Estevan Oriol

The Hard Luck Show

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 16, 2020 122:26


Your earbuds will feel the outbreak when Big Lucks and the crew go deep on Schmitty and pull apart the wild contagion Coronavirus careening through the crazy Media, you'll suffer coughing fits of laughter and fever bubbles when Lepke hits the Mic. Then like an alien virus hatched in an unearthly lab that takes the world over Estevan Oriol hits the Hard Luck Luck Talk-togon with Julian Lucas fellow photographer until the Mayfair kicks us out. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-hard-luck-show/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

It's All Bad
PCP and a Late Start to the Good Life with Lucky and Lepke, Part II

It's All Bad

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 16, 2020 106:52


Episode 40. Southsiders Lucky and Lepke are back for more All Bad. Ghosts, SWAT Teams, PCP, arrests and GHB before finding a sober way out with the help of gratitude and some higher power. They call it a late start to the good life, never forgetting those they lost along they way. Enjoy.

It's All Bad
Southside Bullets and Ganging with Lucky and Lepke, Part I

It's All Bad

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 9, 2020 105:36


Episode 39. This week we got some old Hollywood bangers from a couple Southside "cholos." Born in Santa Monica and Baldwin Village respectively, Lucky and Lepke met in the joint in 1993 and quickly bonded over their shared Italian-Jewish heritage and a love for classic cinema. But they also had addiction in common. They tell all this week from riots on the yard to smoking Maui Wowie in 1970s Los Angeles. From falling in love with dope to chasing sex on meth and finally taking bullets for their behaviour on the streets. As if that wasn't enough to stop them, Lucky and Lepke will be back with more stories of paranoia and PCP next week. Enjoy.

The Hard Luck Show
HLS Ep. 058: L.A. Men's Central Jail

The Hard Luck Show

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 5, 2020 105:47


Your headphones won't make parole when Big Luck's, Big Lepke, Gritty Schmitty and The Indian do a deep dive the biggest most notorious jail in America—Men's Central. First-hand accounts, Head Counts, Wet Forties, Psycho Graft, Freeway Freddie, the 1700 floors, Richard Ramirez and the Melendez brothers, the 5150 Dink Tank, Court Line Sandwiches, Lepke's Spoken Word Wake Up Call, Lepke Addicted to IG Live, Schmitty's crush on Big Lep, The Gnarly Nickle Crew and more as this wild ride goes waaaaaay off the rails. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-hard-luck-show/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The Hard Luck Show
The Hard Luck Show episode 045 Rampart - part 1

The Hard Luck Show

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2020 186:23


  The C.R.A.S.H. Rampart Scandal crashes your earbuds when Big Lucks, Lepke and Chumahan rip off the scab of the LAPD's scariest scandal as Big Lucks and Lepke portray their personal tales, run-ins and double-crosses with the abominable anti-gang units, despicable details described of lecherous law enforcement from Rafael Perez all the way up to Chief Parks that will leave your eardrums running for a shower and therapy, hear about LAPD's dependence on Death Row and Suge Knight's football forays with the LA Rams before he turned to Thug-ocity, hear how LAPD's detective Poole, the only person interested in the truth, is stymied by his bosses, hear about the real estate scam the on-the-take officers ran in the name of the wrongly imprisoned. The twisted tip of the iceberg on this Audio Titanic is about to hit.  Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-hard-luck-show/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The Hard Luck Show
The Hard Luck Show episode 041 Lepke Strikes Back

The Hard Luck Show

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 6, 2020 73:36


Larger than life Lepke triumphantly returns to the Hard Luckb Show bigger, badder and better than ever, the high-octane homie accepts the honor of being the show's official announcer, he hurls hood history about how the Mayfair was a smoke-out grimy hotel while he was running the streets, his sanctified secrets to cut-throat coffee, wrestling people in driveways, tefillin, and the prison peanut butter legend, he fires off great announcements and introduces us to his mutant minions: Smitty and Kyle.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-hard-luck-show/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The Hard Luck Show
The Hard Luck Show episode 009 with Lepke

The Hard Luck Show

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 16, 2019 90:51


    Unkillable, Lepke takes us on a Hollywood tour of drug abuse, gang affiliation and fighting for his life after the slugs of revenge rip through his body. This is an episode not to miss, as the chemistry between Lucky and Lepke creates expressive shades that reveal a seldom seen, wonderful world of pancakes and pig iron within the coldest and hardest edges of the Califonia prison system.  Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-hard-luck-show/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Gangland Wire
The execution of Louis Lepke Buchalter

Gangland Wire

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2019 17:30


Louis “Lepke” Buchalter was a 1930s New York City racketeer. Authorities believed Albert Anastasia appointed him to run his Murder, Inc., enforcement squad. Crime buster Thomas Dewey will set his sights in Lepke as an... The post The execution of Louis Lepke Buchalter appeared first on Gangland Wire.

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CBD School
Ep. 73 | Chatting w/ Hemp Farmer Patricia Lepke

CBD School

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2018 60:20


Join me as I sit down for a chat with Hemp Farmer and all-around interesting woman: Patricia Lepke of One Life Farms. Visit Patricia's website where you can purchase all her farm-to-bottle CBD hemp products: https://onelifefarms.com She and her family grow it with their own hands. Just listen to the thousands of plants they harvest and put into the ground every season! Use special code cbdschool for a nice little discount only for the lovely folks who hang out at the CBD School :) Happy holidays to everyone. Visit CBD School to learn more about CBD + hemp: https://cbdschool.com

Szkeptikus Hangtár
Dsuang Dszi, a lepke és én

Szkeptikus Hangtár

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 21, 2014 116:48


Orosz László előadása a Szkeptikus Klubban 2014. október 21-én

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Szkeptikus Hangtár
Dsuang Dszi, a lepke és én

Szkeptikus Hangtár

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 21, 2014 116:48


Orosz László előadása a Szkeptikus Klubban 2014. október 21-én

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Hope Kolleg
Das geistliche Erbe des Islam (Dr. Wolfgang Lepke)

Hope Kolleg

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2011 27:59


Hope Kolleg
Was ist überhaupt ein Christ? (Wolfgang Lepke)

Hope Kolleg

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2011 27:09


Hope Kolleg
Was ist überhaupt ein Christ? (Wolfgang Lepke)

Hope Kolleg

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2011 27:09


Hope Kolleg
Das geistliche Erbe des Islam (Dr. Wolfgang Lepke)

Hope Kolleg

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2011 27:59


SBS Hungarian - SBS Magyarul
Australian Tennis Open: the moss did not bother her… - Ausztrál Nyílt Teniszbajnokság: még a lepke sem zavarta….

SBS Hungarian - SBS Magyarul

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 1, 1970 4:36


Timea Babos, the Hungarian tennis player lost, but Johanna Konta played well…..she is representing England, but her parents are Hungarians.       - A magyar teniszező, Babos Tímea kiesett, az angol szinekben játszó magyar származású Johanna Konta továbbjutott.