Podcasts about neota logic

Each week, the leading journalists in legal tech choose their top stories of the week to discuss with our other panelists.   This week's topics: 00:00 - Introductions 01:52 - Michael Mills, cofounder of Neota Logic, has passed away 07:53 - The Path To Generative AI Proficiency For Legal Professionals (Selected by Niki Black)  14:36 - Major Law Firms Form Consortium to Develop AI Training through SkillBurst Interactive; Subscription Access Available to Other Firms (Selected by Bob Ambrogi)  17:53 - Gen AI's ‘Collective Brain Trust' Gathers to Discuss Practical Use Cases and Successes at Invite-Only Event (Selected by Stephanie Wilkins) 22:53 - Budget Busting, Bundling and Bungling- The worst legal information mergers (Selected by Jean O'Grady)  30:10 - I'm back…Don't write off the Metaverse. Meta creating personalized realistic avatars that can pass for the real thing (Selected by Stephen Embry) 40:55 - AI convinced a guy to commit treason (Selected by Joe Patrice) 50:11 - Zuva and Litera Jointly Develop Classification Taxonomy for Legal Documents and Make It Open Source through the SALI Alliance (Selected by Bob Ambrogi)

In episode no. 89 my guest is Fiona Kirkman, CEO and co-founder of FamilyProperty. We cover: The functionality of expert system FamilyProperty that Fiona and her co-founder (husband!) Tim developed; The journey of FamilyProperty from an idea to MVP, to market, to acquisition; The integration of FamilyProperty with global practice management software, Smokeball bringing the ‘business of law' together with effective delivery of legal advice; How technology is always changing and the need for ongoing maintenance (especially when court forms change!); The importance of beta testing and accurate data mapping; Benefits of this use of technology for lawyers and clients; What it is about the people that adopt these new methodologies and the organisations in which they work, including their size and what that means for change management; The impact of the pandemic on the legal industry; Where you fit on ‘the innovative scale'; The importance of understanding users' pain points and how technology can assist with that, as well as empower the professionals to do more of the ‘human work'; Plans for scaling and expansion of FamilyProperty in the USA; Unexpected uses of the financial aspects of FamilyProperty and a model that Legal Aid is piloting; Constraints that Fiona and Tim have come up against recently; The importance of confidentiality and cybersecurity; Fiona's 3 passions and how they relate to her numerous roles; What lawyers will need to be effective mediators in the future;  What is the ‘resolution revolution'?;  The importance of collaborative practice and multidisciplinary input;  When Fiona became comfortable with being labelled an ‘innovator';  What she is most proud of along the journey of both joys and challenges; How technology is an enabler of access to justice; and Fiona's definition of legal innovation. Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic! Links: Family Property Smokeball Neota Logic Solution Gallery Neota Logic Churchill Trust Project Survey Future Ready Regional and Rural Legal Conference Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In episode no. 88, my guest is Nicolas Patrick, Partner, Head of Responsible Business, DLA Piper. We cover: Nic's views on the potential of technology; The reason for DLA Piper holding a forum on technology and access to justice in 2019; The problem with digitising existing processes; Why an international law firm without family law expertise, supports a Sydney based non-profit family law firm; The way Wallumatta Legal operates and how it runs an efficient practice; How pro bono provides insight into areas of unmet legal need; The different contributions that Macquarie University and DLA Piper bring to Wallumatta Legal; What technology is used for at Wallumatta Legal and the software it relies upon; Why Nic isn't concerned about the digital divide in the context of Wallumatta Legal given all its services are delivered online; How Wallumatta Legal will improve access to justice across the sector; Why they recruit a ‘different kind of lawyer' at Wallumatta Legal; The biggest challenge in the first six months of the firm's operations; Plans for scaling and expansion of this model into other jurisdictions and areas of law; Why Nic thinks that there aren't more low bono or alternative models servicing the needs of people at the lower end of the legal market; The potential for regulatory reform to facilitate technology use and other models to improve justice outcomes for marginalised people; The opportunity for firms to collaborate and establish a network of low bono and not-for-profit law firms; and Nic's definition of legal innovation. Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic! Links: Wallumatta Legal Neota Logic Solution Gallery Neota Logic Churchill Trust Project Survey Future Ready Regional and Rural Legal Conference Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

This is the third episode in a 3-part series about justice entrepreneurship.  Part 1 provides an overview of justice entrepreneurship - 3 categories of justice entrepreneurship with real examples from each of the categories and the problem solved.  Part 2 covers 5 key factors to maximise the likelihood of success of your justice innovation. You might be surprised to hear about some of them! And now in part 3, we look at funding options and some of their pro's and con's. Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic  Links: Landers Village Capital Grant connect Grant search Neota Logic Churchill Trust Project Survey Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In episode no. 86 I had the pleasure of speaking with John Lord, Co-founder and Chairman of long term sponsor of the podcast, Neota (formerly Neota Logic). We discuss: What John wants the world to know about no-code and why; Some unintended consequences of no-code including hybrid working models; How no-code supports the democratisation of information in both commercial and public interest contexts; The areas of law that are suited to apps, what can be built, and how they help; The scope of opportunity for legal technology both in terms of market and career choices; The genesis of the university program that Neota now operates in 18 universities around the world and its involvement with pro bono; Outcomes from university ‘Law Apps' courses including an example of how Neota's technology resulted in homes being repaired in a remote Aboriginal community; How an app assists people to have criminal records expunged in the United States; The meaning and relevance of the name ‘Neota'; and John's definition of legal innovation. Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic! Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

At the 2022 International Legal Technology Association conference, I interviewed James Lasson of Casepoint, Bob Beach of Peppermint, Peter Zver of Bundledocs, Dan Hauck of NetDocuments, Jack Stanovsek of Neota Logic, and Nick Schils of TIQ about how interest in legal technology has changed over the past few years.

At the 2022 International Legal Technology Association conference, I interviewed James Lasson of Casepoint, Bob Beach of Peppermint, Peter Zver of Bundledocs, Dan Hauck of NetDocuments, Jack Stanovsek of Neota Logic, and Nick Schils of TIQ about how interest in legal technology has changed over the past few years.

During the 2022 International Legal Technology Association conference, I spoke with Michael Grupp of BRYTER, Rick Weber of Arbor Ridge Partners, Ross Guberman of BriefCatch, and Julian Uebergang of Neota Logic about opportunities in the current market.

During the 2022 International Legal Technology Association conference, I spoke with Michael Grupp of BRYTER, Rick Weber of Arbor Ridge Partners, Ross Guberman of BriefCatch, and Julian Uebergang of Neota Logic about opportunities in the current market.

This is the second episode in a 3-part series about justice entrepreneurship.  Episode 3 was an overview of justice entrepreneurship - the types of issues justice entrepreneurs work on, the 3 categories of justice entrepreneurship with real examples from each of the categories. This episode covers 5 key factors to maximise the likelihood of success of your justice innovation. You might be surprised to hear about some of them! Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic  Links: Justice Entrepreneurship Artificial Lawyer Neota Logic Solution Gallery Neota Logic Churchill Trust Project Survey Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In episode no. 83 I speak with Co-founder, CEO and General Counsel of Turnsignl, Jazz Hampton. We discuss: The problem that prompted the creation of TurnSignl and how Jazz and his co-founders knew it was the right time to act; The professional backgrounds of the three black founders; What Turnsigl does and how it works to protect civil rights at scale; How Turnsignl gets to the people who need it (it's an interesting approach); The product's similarity to roadside assistance programs or an insurance policy; Turnsignl's partners across different sectors; Why Jazz describes the users as the ‘3 P's'; How to know if Turnsignl is working; Power imbalances that exist in civil and criminal law contexts; How Jazz considers Turnsingl provides mental health support; Turnsignl's technology resources and funding model; The difference working in a team when you're responsible for their salaries; Whether you should consider your employees as family; Biggest challenges as a justice entrepreneur especially growing a two-sided marketplace; Something that justice entrepreneurs shouldn't be nervous about; Why you don't need a non-profit vehicle to make a difference (and why a business model might be more suitable); Attributes that gave Jazz the confidence to move from practising law to the becoming an entrepreneur; Insight into his work ethic; Something unique about the foundation for Turnsignl's work; What is ‘moving at the speed of trust'; and Jazz's definition of legal innovation! Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic  Links: TurnSignl Neota Logic Solution Gallery Neota Logic Churchill Trust Project Survey Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

Episode no. 83 is the first episode in a 3-part series about justice entrepreneurship.  This episode covers:  What is justice entrepreneurship? What are the types of issues justice entrepreneurs work on? The 3 categories of justice entrepreneurship Real examples from each of the categories A question to you about what motivates law firm owners? What's coming up including an interview with a passionate justice entrepreneur and more short solo episodes on how to activate justice entrepreneurship Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic  Links: Justice Entrepreneurship Neota Logic Solution Gallery Neota Logic Churchill Trust Project Survey Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group  

In episode no. 81 my guest is Brian Tang, Founding Executive director of LITE Lab@HKU and Co-chair, Asia-Pacific Legal Innovation & Technology Association (ALITA). We discuss: Career path (which will be interesting to law students); How he became involved with innovation in the law in Hong Kong; Main justice issues in Hong Kong; What LITE stands for, and why it is intentionally a “Lab”; How the Lab works with students from 6 out of the 10 faculties at Hong Kong University;  Topics and the experiential experiences that are covered in the Lab's courses and why; How LITE Lab partners with tech start-ups, NGOs and in-house counsel to co-design research projects;  Examples of the innovative projects including workers compensation, low-income tenants, discrimination, womens' rights, human trafficking and foreign workers; Cultural foundations of ‘pro bono' and differences in approach across the world; Capacity and evolution of NGOs affecting their response to implement technology; Why Brian considers the LITE Lab a ‘marketplace' of sorts; The criticism that undergrad courses and hackathons are not effective; The potential of low code/no code, including the ability to maintain software in-house; Need for integration with existing corporate and NGO systems; Issues of funding and software sustainability of applications developed by NGOs; Impact investing, ESG requirements and social entrepreneurs' potential for the future; Asia-Pacific Legal Innovation and Technology Association's (“ALITA”) mission; Categories of ALITA awards (closing soon!); and Brian's definition of legal innovation! Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic  Links: LITE Lab My employee is pregnant Neota Logic Solution Gallery Neota Logic Churchill Trust Project Survey Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In episode no. 80 I discuss multidisciplinary teamwork in the context of law firms and legal tech start-ups developing products, services and projects. I cover: An explanation of multidisciplinary collaboration and teamwork (and what it's not); Effective and real-life examples in both a commercial and not-for-profit context; and Tips for making the most from working with a multidisciplinary team. Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic  Links: Neota Logic Solution Gallery Neota Logic Churchill Trust Project Survey Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In episode no. 79, guests Simon Goodrich, Co-founder and Luke Thomas, senior legal designer, Portable cover: Portable's work and its founders' motivation to do the work it does; Simon's journey from community radio and running a film festival to his current work; What prompted Portable's foray into justice issues and how design and technology can leverage high value tasks and have impact; Specific justice projects including with family violence, young people, wage theft issues and Amica; Luke shares his daily activities of a legal designer; The stage of the design process that both Luke and Simon think is most critical; What Luke has learned from working on numerous projects;  Why Simon thinks constraints are good, and tips on navigating them; How to determine whether an organisation will succeed with a design project; Simon's creative ways to get around resourcing constraints to make a project happen; Whether online information, advice or dispute resolution will make the most difference;  Broader actions that are required to improve people's experience of the law;  Tips for effective multidisciplinary collaboration;  Approaches that lead to better design outcomes;  The one thing they want you to know about Portable; and Simon and Luke's definition of legal innovation! Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic  Links: Portable Neota Logic Solution Gallery Neota Logic Churchill Trust Project Survey Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In episode no. 74, I continue the conversation about technology in courts from episode 73 with Dr Anne Wallace and discuss online dispute resolution “ODR”.  I cover: How ODR is defined; 6 key characteristics of ODR; Advantages and disadvantages of ODR; International and Australian examples of ODR; The different forms of technology used in ODR; The volume of disputes resolved by e-commerce platforms; Whether ODR should be applied to resolve disputes at scale; How an effective ODR should be designed and what it should include; Is there a professional obligation to use ODR and in what circumstances?; and For the first time on Reimaging Justice, I answer a listener's question! Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic  2021 Innovation Committee Report Neota Logic Solution Gallery Neota Logic Churchill Trust Project Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In episode no. 73 my special guest is Dr Anne Wallace, Adjunct Professor La Trobe University and Deputy Director Sir Zelman Cowen Centre. We discuss: what first prompted Anne's interest in technology and court processes; court innovations from the 1990's and how those initiatives have progressed; how courts and lawyers have adapted to the pandemic; how close we are to a virtual court; advantages of audio visual links for providing evidence and what should determine whether it should be adopted more broadly; what currently informs court strategy and what should do so; court surveys and what they uncover; the potential for courts and researchers to work together to develop indicators to measure people's experience; the potential for apps and SMS messages to assist litigants given the proliferation of mobile phone usage; automate and enable people to do preliminary work paired with intelligent assistance – CRT; the opportunity for lawyers to use technology to diversify their services and tap into the latent legal market; why the Victorian court's response to the pandemic didn't surprise her; courts' awareness of the need for ‘innovation' and the relevance of that language; how working with an architect and other disciplines provided Anne with new insights; changes in the mindset of members of the legal industry and Judges; how legal education could encourage multidisciplinary engagement; Anne's predictions about technology in courts as we move through the pandemic; Imaginative dispute resolution in overseas jurisdictions; and  Anne's definition of legal innovation. Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic.   Links: Wallace, A and Laster, K “Courts in Victoria, Australia, During COVID: Will Digital Innovation Stick?” International Consortium on Court Excellence International Womens Day Cocktail Evening Neota Logic Solution Gallery Neota Logic Churchill Trust Project Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In episode no. 72 I share with you 3 (or maybe 4!) things you should know about legal design. The episode covers: The definition of legal design; How it differs from human-centred design and design thinking; 3 categories of legal design; Real examples of legal design in commercial and not-for-profit contexts; Some key elements of any effective legal design process; Questions to ask if you'd like to implement legal design; How legal design intersects with technology; and  A special offer from me! Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic  Links: Legal Design Lab Legal design summit The Design of Everyday Things Neota Logic Solution Gallery Neota Logic Churchill Trust Project Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In episode no. 71 my guest is Principal Legal Designer, Inkling Legal Design, Sara Rayment. We discuss: Why legal design makes sense to Sara;  The types of projects Inkling Legal Design work on and the common thread between them; Common characteristics of Inkling's clients; The approach to legal design that sets Inkling apart; The diversity of skills in her law firm and design practice; What science has to do with design thinking;  The challenges of managing diverse projects; How linear project management, budgets and agile approach interrelate; The most difficult aspect of working with a new client; Key elements of successful legal design for projects and the people involved; How design sprints are just one part of a project, and the importance of being able to communicate ‘the story' to facilitate implementation; Participants' emotional reactions to the various stages of a design sprint and how they encourage personal growth;  The primary purpose of user-testing; How law students respond to design thinking; An AI tool developed by Inkling Legal Design to assist lawyers more easily adopt plain language; The lack of consistency in approach and rigour towards legal design as a discipline; and Sara's definition of legal innovation. Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic  Links: Inkling legal design Andie Assists Neota Logic Solution Gallery Neota Logic Churchill Trust Project Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In episode no. 70 my guest is lawyer, creator and producer of social project ‘Law for the Lay', Clarissa Campbell. We discuss: The project she began in 2019 to share the law with everyday people; What happened that prompted her to actually start the project;  How her personal and professional background influences her approach; Her unique style using play and humour to share legal information; How she chooses the topics that she covers; Her legal and branding concerns relating to ‘Law for the Lay'; How she selected which social media platform to use, and the challenge of staying up to date with how algorithms work; What a “Lawfluencer” is; Research she's done for the project which shocked her; Topics that have received unusual responses and how she handles those challenges; The level of technical support she receives and how she manages her time; Things she's working to improve about her communication; Other ways in which citizens' legal awareness could be increased; How acting on our own ‘agency' and unique skills can assist others; Given it is open to interpretation, I had to ask about her choice of name for the project; Covid interruptions and future plans; and Clarissa's definition of legal innovation. Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic  Links: ‘Law for the Lay' Clarissa (@lawforthelay)  Saga Land Overland Track  Neota Logic Solution Gallery Neota Logic Churchill Trust Project Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In episode no. 69, I reflect on the podcast over the past 12 months and since it began. I share: statistics about Reimagining Justice (downloads, topics, guests and listeners); the most downloaded episodes this year and since the podcast began; an excerpt from Episode 66 with founder Courtroom5 Sonja Ebron; characteristics of (award-winning) justice innovators; and 3 things I learned about legal innovation this year. Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic. Links: Neota Logic's App Gallery Neota Logic Churchill Trust project  QLS Innovation report Top Australian law podcasts Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In episode no. 68 my guest is serial public sector transformer, Pia Andrews. We discuss: how her pursuit of “truth” led her to the open-source movement and working in policy development; how technological tools relate to our quality of life; ‘open source' – its philosophy and implementation and the idea of “clever hacks”; how ‘rules as code' addresses issues with enforcing regulation; prescriptive and principles-based rules and when each are appropriate; the connection between the cost of implementing regulation and its effectiveness; how an API for prescriptive rules relating to anti-money laundering and counter-terrorism funding could have saved one bank $16M per year!; how ‘rules as code' make compliance more transparent by allowing for modelling, and how this could increase accountability of the public sector; how current policy creation is insufficient and requires input from community and an example from France which incorporated co-design of policy; Taiwan's response to the introduction of Uber! the importance of multidisciplinary teams in developing policy and how ‘rules as code' facilities doing so in real time; how ‘rules as code' improves trust and compliance with administrative law and shifts the onus to government; different public sector approaches to the “new normal”; how the relationship between the public sector and its government drives outcomes; whether a public sector should serve – the government, parliament or the people? 3 things necessary to create an environment for innovation and solving wicked problems; the connection between capacity and innovation, and Pia's ideas about how to increase civic participation through a “civic gap year” and “policy difference engine”; and of course Pia's definition of legal innovation. Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic Links: Linux Home TedX multipotentialite Emilie Wapnick: Why some of us don't have one true calling | TED Talk Docassemble  Legislation as Code and better rules Building a trustworthy public sector with trust infrastructure Neota Logic's App Gallery Neota Logic Churchill Trust project Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In this podcast, the sixth episode of seven in CLI's Digital Literacy Series: Automation Mini Series, Mark Tyndall, VP, Markets & Growth, APAC at Neota Logic and his guest presenter Adj. Assoc. Prof Peter Dombkins, Director at PwC Australia, NewLaw worked through a case study that illustrated the nature of and relationship between legal workflow automation and data. Topics covered in this session included: defining clear metrics designing automation solutions to ensure the capture of data needed to assess impact communicating your findings in a way that your team and others can easily understand and track over time This mini series brings together a unique collaboration of leading legal automation specialists who address a number of different but related topics in legal automation. You'll find details about the mini series here. If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you'll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free resource hub here.

Episode no. 61 features Dan Jackson, Executive Director and Jules Rochielle Sievert, Creative Director of NuLawLab, Northeastern University School of Law. The NuLawLab is the interdisciplinary innovation laboratory at Northeastern University School of Law. It is one of the first law labs established in the US and its staff, students and stakeholders are leading the way in the emerging global Legal Design movement. Through its programs, projects, seminars, and research the lab builds cross-disciplinary teams and community-based partnerships focused on transforming legal education, the legal profession, and the delivery of legal services. The discussion covers: how the NuLawLab approaches problem-solving and collaborates with artistic people outside the walls of academia to find new ways of moving through complicated issues and to provide people with greater access to their legal rights; how integrating various design methodologies provides the freedom to explore and to work with community needs and values; what Dan and Jules see as the current and future possibilities for legal design, and what legal design shouldn't be; how law students are involved in both long and short scale work; details of projects including RePresent game, and Stable Ground and how they had to pivot with the onset of the pandemic; how building trust with community organisations long term can shift the work from transactional to transformational; issues with innovation funding and how it could be better spent; how co-design centres community leadership and leverages resources to assist direct services; how each project and team gets started and developed (and why the lab doesn't have an application form!); where project funding comes from and other important forms of sustainability; how Dan and Jules respond to requests to articulate the value of the lab's work; the need to bridge the “language gap” between people from different disciplines; how black letter lawyers can approach work with people from other disciplines and why we need to work with creative fields; key factors for a successful innovative lab; how legal design enables lawyers to exercise their creativity; Dan's idea about add-athons and Jules (re)definition of legal innovation! Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic. Links: NuLawLab Neota Logic Feedspot Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In this podcast, the second episode of seven in CLI's Digital Literacy Series: Automation Mini Series, Gene Turner, Managing Director at LawHawk and Mark Tyndall, VP, Markets & Growth, APAC at Neota Logic guided us through the process of using automation to create value across your legal business. Topics covered in this episode included: how to look at the full process, and identify the business outcomes that need to be achieved; how legal automation can link multiple processes, extending across and outside the organisation; and the broader range of benefits lawyers can now deliver to their business clients using design and technology. While this episode had particular relevance to in-house legal teams, law firms will also find it helpful in identifying where they can add the most value in this joined-up world. This mini series brings together a unique collaboration of leading legal automation specialists who will address a number of different but related topics in legal automation. You'll find details about the mini series and upcoming episodes here. If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you'll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free resource hub here.

Episode no. 57 features Anne-Marie Cade, Founder of coaching and mediation service Divorce Right. Our discussion covers: why Anne-Marie pivoted from traditional legal practice to coaching and mediation; what conflict coaching, divorce coaching and parenting coordination actually is; how the structured coaching process and setting goals empowers clients to make better decisions; how shifting mindsets aids conflict resolution and results in a win/win situation; the different aspects of a divorce that many people don’t initially consider and the importance of explaining the process clearly to clients; the process required for clients to make decisions they can stick with; how different communication styles can influence the other party’s response; how parenting coordination helps parents navigate their co-parenting relationship post-divorce; the circumstances in which Courts appoint parenting coordinators; the best time to appoint a parenting coordinator and why; training and qualifications required to be a parenting coordinator; whether people other than lawyers can effectively undertake quasi-legal activities; what Anne-Marie aims to research on her Churchill Fellowship; the profession’s attitude to this innovation and its role in access to justice; Anne-Marie’s views on how technology can be most effective in the family law context including online mediation, disclosure and apps; how Divorce Right’s online “Divorce GPS” assists; how her clients have embraced online mediation and online family law forms; how she rebalances the traditional power imbalance between lawyer and client; the importance of understanding your own values and active listening as a lawyer and a client; and Anne-Marie’s definition of legal innovation! Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic. Links: Divorce Right Neota Logic Feedspot Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

Episode no. 56 is with Erin Levine, Founder and CEO of Hello Divorce. Our discussion covers: Erin’s journey from lawyer to legal entrepreneur and why she can’t go back; What Hello Divorce is and how it was inspired by Australian lawyers; How technology is saving clients tens of thousands of dollars; Key differences between traditional practice models and Hello Divorce; What Erin has learned about people’s behaviour during divorce; The process Erin undertook to develop the products and divorce navigator; Whether you should build software or buy it off the shelf; How Erin manages the issue of unauthorised practise of law; The challenges and benefits of expanding Hello Divorce into more States; Erin’s motivation for transparent pricing and subscription services; Key differences between marketing Hello Divorce and a traditional law firm; How to develop trust online; As a busy entrepreneur, how Erin maintains her wellbeing; The one thing that has made the biggest difference to her business; Erin’s definition of legal innovation! Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic. Links: Hello Divorce FutureLaw 2021 Neota Logic Feedspot Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

Episode no. 55 is with Dominic Woolrych, Founder of Lawpath. Our discussion covers: Lawpath’s origin story; Its current business model including how the subscription service works; The difference between “BigLaw”, “small law” and “tiny law”; The role of law societies in supporting legal innovation; Which software Lawpath uses and how it makes law “proactive”; One thing that is stopping lawyers from improving process efficiencies; Unexpected findings from surveying clients about legal design; Whether professional regulation is inhibiting innovation and how to overcome regulatory barriers; Whether clients should bear some risk in exchange for more affordable legal services; Keys to Lawpath’s success (including raising funding, consistent income and client retention); The multidisciplinary nature of the Lawpath team and how that assists the business; Lawyers’ responses to having online reviews, and the connection with new business; The one thing Dominic would have done differently on his entrepreneurial journey; and Dominic’s definition of legal innovation! Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic. Links: Lawpath Legal Zoom Neota Logic Feedspot  Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

Episode no. 52 features Professor Professor Renee Knake Jefferson, Author and Doherty Chair in Legal Ethics at the University of Houston Law Center. Our discussion covers: The importance of understanding your own and others’ perspectives; Traits of the first female lawyers that make them the original legal innovators; The catalyst for Reinvent Law, one of the first legal design labs; The phenomena of new kinds of legal jobs; Her work as Fulbright Distinguished Chair in Entrepreneurship and Innovation at RMIT Key actions that will make the biggest difference for access to justice; Key findings from the book Renee co-authored, why it had to be written and has the title that it does; Who is Mildred Lily? The Rooney rule and the Mansfield rule; What is required to remedy gender inequality for minority women; How shortlisting preserves the status quo and is not a good indicator of inclusion; Her plans for future research; and Renee’s definition of legal innovation! Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic and Legally Yours. Links: Shortlisted: Women in the Shadows of the Supreme Court Renee Knake Jefferson Legally Yours Neota Logic Innovation in Australian law schools QUT Justice Society International Women’s Day event “Women in Justice” ACT Law Society webinar "What Are We Not Talking About?" Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

Episode no. 51 features Professor Tania Sourdin, Dean and Head of University of Newcastle School of Law. Our discussion covers: the impact of Covid19 on the profession; what’s surprised her about online disputer resolution during the pandemic; the difference between Supportive, replacement and disruptive tech; the role that legal professionals should take in adoption of technology and their innovation readiness; the need for a uniform and national ethical framework for technology adoption in law; suggestions for regulation including sandboxes which allow for safe experimentation; what the legal profession can learn from service delivery in other professions including medicine; appropriate and inappropriate uses of technology and how different client cohorts engage; the digital divide even within the profession; the lack of meaningful data being collected by courts; and Tania’s definition of legal innovation! Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic and Legally Yours. Links: “Justice in the age of technology: ’The rise of machines is upon us’” “Judges, Technology and Artificial Intelligence - The Artificial Judge“ Legally Yours Neota Logic Impact 25 Pro Bono Awards ACT Law Society webinar "What Are We Not Talking About?" Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

Episode no. 50 features Kanan Dhru. Our discussion covers: What is user-friendly, people-centred justice; The importance of data and evidence-based research; HiiL’s justice dashboard; Key factors for innovation at scale; How the justice accelerator works; The parallels between the medical and legal professions; How HiiL is transforming the justice sector; What you will learn at the Innovating Justice forum; 7 gamechangers for improving people-centred justice; How Kanan’s definition of legal innovation has changed since Episode 8! Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic and Legally Yours. Links: The Hague Institute for Innovation of Law “HiiL” Innovating Justice Forum Haqdarshak (India) Legally Yours Neota Logic Pro Bono Impact 25 Awards Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

Episode no. 49 features Elizabeth Shearer, President of the Queensland Law Society (“QLS”) and Founder of Affording Justice. Our discussion covers: the impact of Covid19 on the profession; what changes should remain; the purpose of the QLS Access to Justice committee and the ‘scorecard’; best uses for technology and the opportunity before the profession; Elizabeth’s journey to establish Affording Justice; how the Affording Justice model has evolved; key takeaways from her Churchill Trust research into telephone delivery; how to define success as a lawyer; guidance on low bono and unbundling; how Elizabeth will know she’s been a success as QLS President; and Elizabeth’s definition of legal innovation! Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic and Legally Yours. Links:  Affording Justice QLS Access to Justice Scorecard Elizabeth’s Churchill Fellowship report Legally Yours Neota Logic Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

One of the initiatives that Ari Kaplan Advisors launched in 2020 was a periodic CEO Roundtable to address trends, challenges, and objectives with market leaders. During the fifth and final conversation of the year, I discussed lessons learned, silver linings, and the road ahead with: Haresh Bhungalia, CEO, Casepoint; Kiwi Camara, CEO, DISCO; Ian Campbell, CEO, iCONECT; Craig Carpenter, CEO, X1; Dana Denis-Smith, CEO, Obelisk Support; Steve Fredette, CEO, The BARBRI Group; Keith Laska, CEO, Hanzo; Kim Massana, CEO, Neota Logic; Soumya Nettimi, CEO, ASG Legal Tech; Tim Pullan, CEO, ThoughtRiver; and, Chris Stock, CEO, PCLaw | Time Matters.

One of the initiatives that Ari Kaplan Advisors launched in 2020 was a periodic CEO Roundtable to address trends, challenges, and objectives with market leaders. During the fifth and final conversation of the year, I discussed lessons learned, silver linings, and the road ahead with: Haresh Bhungalia, CEO, Casepoint; Kiwi Camara, CEO, DISCO; Ian Campbell, CEO, iCONECT; Craig Carpenter, CEO, X1; Dana Denis-Smith, CEO, Obelisk Support; Steve Fredette, CEO, The BARBRI Group; Keith Laska, CEO, Hanzo; Kim Massana, CEO, Neota Logic; Soumya Nettimi, CEO, ASG Legal Tech; Tim Pullan, CEO, ThoughtRiver; and, Chris Stock, CEO, PCLaw | Time Matters.

One of the initiatives that Ari Kaplan Advisors launched in 2020 was a periodic CEO Roundtable to address trends, challenges, and objectives with market leaders. During the fifth and final conversation of the year, I discussed lessons learned, silver linings, and the road ahead with: Haresh Bhungalia, CEO, Casepoint; Kiwi Camara, CEO, DISCO; Ian Campbell, CEO, iCONECT; Craig Carpenter, CEO, X1; Dana Denis-Smith, CEO, Obelisk Support; Steve Fredette, CEO, The BARBRI Group; Keith Laska, CEO, Hanzo; Kim Massana, CEO, Neota Logic; Soumya Nettimi, CEO, ASG Legal Tech; Tim Pullan, CEO, ThoughtRiver; and, Chris Stock, CEO, PCLaw | Time Matters.

One of the initiatives that Ari Kaplan Advisors launched in 2020 was a periodic CEO Roundtable to address trends, challenges, and objectives with market leaders. During the fifth and final conversation of the year, I discussed lessons learned, silver linings, and the road ahead with: Haresh Bhungalia, CEO, Casepoint; Kiwi Camara, CEO, DISCO; Ian Campbell, CEO, iCONECT; Craig Carpenter, CEO, X1; Dana Denis-Smith, CEO, Obelisk Support; Steve Fredette, CEO, The BARBRI Group; Keith Laska, CEO, Hanzo; Kim Massana, CEO, Neota Logic; Soumya Nettimi, CEO, ASG Legal Tech; Tim Pullan, CEO, ThoughtRiver; and, Chris Stock, CEO, PCLaw | Time Matters.

In this episode no. 48 I spoke with Laura Kiely, Barrister and Founder of online dispute resolution platform, Immediation. Our discussion covers: How Laura’s experience in corporate law and at the Bar led her to this point; Immediation – the need it addresses, how it was designed and how it works in practice; The types of clients implementing it and the matters with which it assists; The role of government and private companies in filling gaps in the market, especially as relates to access to justice; The impact of Covid19 on dispute resolution in general and what this has meant for Immediation; How life as a lawyer compares to life as a start up founder and overlaps in skills; Why Laura continues to practise law while running a company with 50 employees; Immediation’s funding journey; and Laura’s definition of legal innovation! Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic and Legally Yours. Links: Immediation HRC ”Addressing the problem of algorithmic bias” Legally Yours Neota Logic Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In this episode no. 47, I speak with Stevie Ghiassi, CEO and co-founder of Legaler, and Chairman of Legaler Aid. Our discussion covers: The mission of Legaler Aid and how it works in practice What inspired Stevie to found Legaler Aid to address the justice gap How Legaler Aid is expanding the network of lawyers doing pro bono work What Stevie considers the first step in modernising legal services Why incorporating blockchain technology is critical Video conferencing technology Legaler and its application during the pandemic The work of the Australian Legal Technology Association (“ALTA”) Tips for founders including where to base yourself and getting the structure right The pending launch of comprehensive global research about the business of legal tech, the Global Legal Technology Report and Directory Stevie’s definition of legal innovation! Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic and Legally Yours. Links: Legaler Aid Legaler Global Legal Tech Report ALTA Legally Yours Neota Logic Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In this episode no. 46 I speak with Brendan Lacota, Head of Community Programs at Justice Connect and Vice-President of the Law Institute of Victoria. This interview covers: How online tools help and what technology was used to develop: FineFixer, Dear Landlord, Justice Connect Answers and onlinewillkit.com How to design an online tool How to acquire skills to design an online tool Insights Brendan has gained and why he still applies them The best form of consumer facing legal technology right now and use cases for technology in the future What has most surprised him over his time implementing technology into a legal practice A specific product Justice Connect is developing to combat elder abuse His priorities for service with the Law Institute of Victoria and Law Council of Australia Brendan’s definition of legal innovation or, more particularly what it’s not! Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic and Legally Yours. Links: Justice Connect Fine Fixer Dear Landlord Paper Giant Online will kit Legally Yours Neota Logic Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In this episode no. 45 I speak with President of the American Bar Association and Partner, Snell & Wilcox, Ms Patrica Lee Refo. This interview covers: The ABA’s mission, including racial equity and other practical strategies The current focus on unmet legal needs due to the pandemic The impact of the pandemic on the practise of law including remote working and training junior lawyers The once-in-a-lifetime opportunity facing the profession Who are the people best-placed to innovate and reform How the historic ABA resolution regarding reform was developed and passed The importance of experimenting and measuring what works The role of technology and paraprofessionals in creating more options for everyday people Specific ABA projects including Free Legal Answers, Legal Tech for a change, the Miranda tool and Floodproof app The power inherent in being a lawyer The need to build back justice systems that are better than before Ms Refo’s definition of legal innovation or, more particularly what it’s not! Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic and Legally Yours. Links: American Bar Association Free Legal Answers Legally Yours Neota Logic Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

Reimagining Justice covers issues at the intersection of innovation, law and social justice. You’ll enjoy it if you’re someone who hopes to make a positive improvement to people’s experience of the law through new ways of thinking and doing. Self-represented litigants… do you love them or loath them? Well either way they are a fact of life and this episode will give you some ideas about how to best respond to self rep litigants no matter which side of the fence you’re on. This is episode no. 43 and I speak with Katherine Alteneder, Consulting Senior Strategic Advisor with the Self-Represented Litigation Network. This episode covers: how the network most effectively facilitates people from diverse backgrounds, how the network measures the value of its work, exactly what self-help is and why it’s considered a core service of the court, her idea for a community council to hold courts accountable, Katherine’s definition of legal innovation, and the importance of judicial education about self-representation. If there’s one thing you won’t want to miss it will be Katherine’s tips on what to do when you find yourself opposing a self-represented litigant and practical ways of assisting emotionally charged clients so you can get on with the legal work. Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic and Legally Yours Links: Self-Represented Litigation Network Justice for All Project (Amanda Brown interview)  and How to apply a commercial mindset to reap results for your legaltech project with Amanda Brown Court navigators Self-help Legally Yours Neota Logic Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In this episode no. 42 I speak with Kate Fazio, Head of Innovation and engagement at legal services charity Justice Connect, where Kate leads an interdisciplinary team to develop products and strategies such as the Gateway Project and Pro Bono Portal to increase access to Justice. For her work transforming justice Kate has received many awards including the 2020 Telstra Business Women’s Award (For Purpose) and the 2019 Victorian Premier’s Design Award in Service Design.  As a lawyer, technologist and journalist with a Masters in Social Impact, Kate is a change-maker bringing an intersectional lens to improving access to justice in Australia. This interview will be helpful if you want to embed digital transformation across your organisation or guarantee a program with impact. And wait until you hear Kate’s definition of MVP. You should listen to this episode if you want to know more about: The work of Justice Connect (“JC”), its clearing house function and how it assists individuals and not-for-profit organisations How online strategies have extended JC’s impact How JC determined its digital transformation strategy The human-centred design process for digital innovation projects The best time to release a digital product The tensions that exist when prioritising projects and for community lawyers working with agile project design Sources of funding for new projects How JC digital projects have assisted with response to the Australian bushfires and the pandemic The key benefits of technology The role of data and measurement The “divide” between private and public legal service delivery The role of law schools could take to research social impacts of the law Kate’s definition of legal innovation How her views have changed since commencing this work Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic and Legally Yours. Links: Justice Connect Pro Bono Portal Legally Yours Neota Logic Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In this episode no. 38 I speak with Eduardo Gonzalez, who has had a variety of roles in his short career and who is now Project Manager with the Self-representation Litigation Network (“SRLN”). The SRLN is a network of professionals including judges, court administrators, the private bar, technologists and librarians all connecting in relation to access to justice and whose core work is to support collaboration and knowledge sharing. But Eduardo has also worked in legal design both as a consultant and at the NuLawLab at Northeastern University in Boston where he was involved in an exciting project using video games to educate self-represented litigants. For the last couple of years Eduardo has been an Access to Justice Technology fellow at Georgetown Institute for Technology Law and Policy, all experiences we discuss. We covered the challenges in collating. updating and sharing information in a meaningful way, and insights from the participants in the SRLN justice tech working group that Eduardo coordinates. I asked Eduardo towards the end of the interview to predict the future and he rises to the challenge. You will also be surprised to hear that he is able to draw a connection between doorknobs and self-represented litigants. We touched on a really fascinating subject that I haven’t covered in the podcast before now, which is surprising really considering the benefits, and the title about today’s episode gives you a hint about that. You should definitely listen to this episode if you are interested in applying user centric design principles or how to improve knowledge sharing in the interests of a better justice system. I met Eduardo in January and was impressed with his knowledge about the principles of justice sector innovation and his passion for it, and I suspect you’ll hear that coming through in this interview. Here’s Eduardo. Neota's no-code app-building tool Canvas, enables you to prototype a functional web application capable of sophisticated reasoning and complex outcomes to ensure your legal expertise can be accessed online anywhere, 24/7. Neota Logic is a leading no-code AI automation platform, providing professionals with a wide range of easy-to-use tools to automate any aspect of their services. There is no better time to transform your legal services to digital and right now Neota is offering a 30-day free trial of Canvas.  Links: Georgetown Institute for Technology Law and Policy SRLN NuLawLab RePresent Study Crafter Neota Logic Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

Patrick Fuller is the Vice President and General Manager of ALM Intelligence. He has been in the legal industry for more than 20 years, holding a variety of business development, consulting, and senior leadership roles. Before joining ALM, Patrick served as the VP of Business Development for the artificial intelligence start-up, Neota Logic, and as Director of Legal Analytics for Wolters Kluwer’s ELM Solutions, working with legal departments to define, measure, and take action on key performance indicators for legal departments and operations. His career also includes stints with Martindale-Hubbell, Thomson Reuters, Hildebrandt Consulting, and LawVision Group. Patrick is a frequent author and speaker, with more than 200 speaking and authorship credits within the legal industry. Active in his community personally and professionally, Patrick is a member of the Board of Directors for IgniteOKC. He serves as an advisory board member to a Silicon Valley LegalTech start-up and as a Community Leader to Diversity Lab’s Move the Needle Fund.  Patrick is a member of the Leadership Board for the University of North Texas’s prestigious College of Information and is a Fellow in the College of Law Practice Management.   In this episode…   How can law firms use data to approach long-term strategy, evaluate diversification opportunities, and make a business case for DE&I efforts? Join us as host Gina Rubel goes on record with Patrick Fuller, Vice President and General Manager of ALM Intelligence, to discuss business lessons learned from 2008, using data to grow intelligently, the pros and cons of geographic diversification, and the business case for diversity, equity, and inclusion.    

In this episode no. 35, I speak with New Orleans based lawyer Amanda Leigh Brown. Amanda is founder and Executive Director of Langiappe Law Lab, a legal aid technology non-profit serving Louisiana’s justice community by empowering the public with legal information and helping legal service providers do their work better. Throughout her career Amanda has worked on apps that assist people after disasters, a state-wide portal system providing information and referrals and practical and ethical guidelines to use when developing AI. We touched on the importance of data and the biggest challenges to any project and Amanda shared the differing responses she received to the online legal information portal. On a personal level she shares how she first developed an interest in tech and the influence of law school on her career choices. One of the things I found most interesting about this conversation was the impact on her of her experience at Microsoft. Of course the pandemic has spurred Amanda on to even more action and you can hear about how - in a very short time - she developed a rent relief app, government subsidies navigator and leveraged an existing platform to enable people to find legal assistance. Speaking of apps that can be developed quickly, with Neota's no-code app-building tool Canvas, you will be able to prototype a functional web application capable of sophisticated reasoning and complex outcomes within minutes to ensure your legal expertise can be accessed online anywhere, 24/7. Neota Logic is a leading no-code AI automation platform, providing professionals with a wide range of easy-to-use tools to automate any aspect of their services. The time has definitely come to transform your legal services to digital and at the moment you can sign up to a 30-day free trial of Canvas. For more details, see the links in the show notes. Neota Logic is also a member of ALTA, the Australian Legal Technology Association. ALTA provides a community to Australian legal technology companies for information sharing, collaboration and building the presence of Australian legal technology on the global stage and is holding a virtual conference at the end of this week, with some great sessions and speakers. Links: Lagniappe Law Lab Rent relief app Economic relief navigator Legal Navigator project Justice for all project ALTAcon Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In this episode no. 34, I speak with Sydney-based lawyer Carly Stebbing who established Resolution 123 - a law firm using technology and flexible work to deliver employment law services to employees in a fast, simple and affordable way. Carly has over 13 years of employment law experience working for employer associations, law firms and volunteering at community legal centres. The fact that she has worked for employers means she has the benefit of knowing how employers think and what their lawyers will be advising them. Carly is a Flexible Workday Ambassador and has numerous awards, winning law firm Innovator of the Year in last year’s Women in Law awards. This episode covers a lot of ground and will have wide appeal, especially if you’re interested in how to run a client focused firm for the everyday person while incorporating technology into your business model. Carly shares the concerns that initially prevented her from starting her firm, and the factors that came together to mean she eventually did take the leap from a secure position as partner to start-up founder in a relatively untested market. What Carly has come to learn is that there is demand for a firm offering legal services in the way she’d imagined and that the missing middle is a large and largely untapped legal market. Of course right now employment is a big issue facing our country and around the world and so we also talk about where and how she is sharing information that will most effectively assist workers to make informed choices and advocate for their rights. Those of you interested in legal design will be curious about that part of the interview. Resolution123 has adopted a very agile approach to shift quickly to address employment law matters which have arisen out of the pandemic, which I have to say is no small thing. You might get some ideas here about how to adjust some of your services to meet the current needs of your clients. Carly was very open in discussing the challenges of managing client expectations for affordable legal services and about the importance of having realistic expectations of what can be achieved through technology. This episode brought to you by Neota Logic. Neota Logic is a leading no-code AI automation platform, providing professionals with a wide range of easy-to-use tools to rapidly build applications that automate any aspect of their services. The time has come to transform your legal services to digital. You can sign up to a 30-day free trial of Neota's rapid no-code app-building tool, Canvas. Within minutes you can prototype a functional web application capable of sophisticated reasoning and complex outcomes and ensure your legal expertise can be accessed online anywhere, 24/7. Links: Resolution123 FLIP report QLS Innovation committee Neota Logic Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In this episode no. 33 I speak with Quinten Steenhuis, Clinical Fellow at Suffolk University Law School doing what I would describe as ground-breaking work through a project responding to the covid19 crisis by bringing essential legal services online. But before this project, as a senior housing attorney and systems administrator at Greater Boston Legal Services Quinten had developed MADE, an effective legal tech product assisting people with eviction proceedings. He also runs his own consulting business Lemma Legal focusing on user-facing technology projects. You’ll no doubt hear the excitement in my voice as we discuss MADE and the current document assembly line project which needs many adjectives to describe it because it’s ticking so many boxes. It’s global, responsive, innovative (of course), collaborative, necessary and open source. And Quinten told me that they are still looking for volunteers so if you’re interested follow the links in the show notes. And another thing that will be really interesting to you even if you aren’t a community lawyer but one of the many innovative lawyers listening is the information Quinten shared about the process of starting, testing and implementing a document automation project. There are significant differences between the design of client facing products and internal information systems and we cover this including the legal information/advice issue. You will gain insight into the benefits to your business of these kinds of approaches, including clients’ ability to access information after-hours and the time savings, which will consequently enable you to spend time assisting more clients or with your existing clients on higher value tasks. I’m very grateful to Neota Logic for sponsoring the podcast. Neota Logic is a leading no-code AI automation platform, providing professionals with a wide range of easy-to-use tools to rapidly build applications that automate any aspect of their services. This episode brought to you by Neota Logic. Links: The Document Assembly Line Project MADE Lemma Legal Neota Logic Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In this episode no. 32 I speak with Jennie Pakula, Manager of Innovation & Consumer Engagement at the Victorian Legal Services Board and Commissioner. We covered a lot of ground in this interview, charting the role of regulator from traditional disciplinarian to modern stakeholder solving challenges of both clients and lawyers; examples of effective uses of technology in the profession; and the purpose of a regulatory inbox. We covered the kinds of issues lawyers are looking to professional and regulatory bodies for guidance upon, including the whole legal information/advice divide and where issues arise regarding unauthorised practice of law. Jennie was very open in sharing the kinds of questions that come into the regulatory inbox, which will provide insight into the type of innovation currently moving the profession forward. Jennie discussed the work of the new consumer advisory committee at the commission and whether regulation has actually been fulfilling its true role in protecting the consumer. Jennie has been an innovator for many years and is passionate about making legal services better. Her “great desire is to see lawyers reinventing legal practice so that it meets the needs of a whole new market of consumers.” After being admitted to practice in 1988 Jennie spent around 5 years in commercial law before joining the NSW Law Society in 1994, where she worked in ethics and complaints for 12 years. In 2006 Jennie moved to Melbourne and then took up a role at the Victorian Legal Services Commissioner where for 8 years she managed the front end of the complaints and enquiries process, reading a whopping 14,000 complaints.  In December 2018 Jennie was very happily appointed to the new role of Manager, Innovation & Consumer Engagement. You should listen to this episode if you are concerned that the innovation you are considering for your practice may breach current rules of professional regulation; if you would like to know the best way to approach your state regulator with your ideas; what kinds of technological applications are unlikely to fall foul of current regulation and how the Victorian regulator at least is working with the profession to address the emerging needs of lawyers and clients. I’m very grateful to Neota Logic for sponsoring the podcast. Neota Logic is a leading no-code AI automation platform, providing professionals with a wide range of easy-to-use tools to rapidly build applications that automate any aspect of their services. Today’s episode is a conversation about the relationship between consumers, lawyers, technology and ethics, all of which will remain live issues, if not become more important as this current crisis continues, and resolves… This episode brought to you by Neota Logic. Links: Victoria Legal Services Board and Commission Aurecon Neota Logic Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

This episode no. 31 is a really important one in light of current circumstances and the impact on the legal profession, not only through disrupted working conditions but regarding current modes of conducting hearings - it covers issues of grave importance to maintaining the rule of law. I speak with Dr. Natalie Byrom who is Director of Research at UK The Legal Education Foundation where she leads work to build the evidence base for what works in helping individuals to secure their rights. Last year she was seconded to Her Majesty’s Courts and Tribunal Service as Expert Advisor on Open Data and Academic Engagement where her remit included advising on the data architecture and methods required to evaluate the impact of technology focused court reform on both access to and the fairness of the justice system. The 3 big topics in this episode are: the urgent shift to online hearings we’re seeing right now around the world - whether they are taking account of more vulnerable people and what could be done to improve the processes if indeed they become a part of the new normal after this crisis is over; the importance of collecting evidence for evaluation – not only to demonstrate impact to funders but to improve on current practices, and the relationship between digitisation and systemic reform. As part of those conversations we covered the importance of screening for legal needs to profoundly assist with complex social problems and the work of the Legal Education Foundation’s new Justice Lab. Natalie shared examples of resistance she’s faced to evaluation, the importance of understanding how digital delivery of legal services aids or inhibits inclusivity and makes a very important point about the connection between funding and evaluation. You should listen to this episode if you are curious about the impact of online courts on access to justice; in evaluation as a tool to demonstrate your organisation’s impact, or generally interested in best uses of technology in the delivery of legal services. I’m grateful to Neota Logic for sponsoring the podcast. Neota Logic is a leading no-code AI automation platform, providing professionals with a wide range of easy-to-use tools to rapidly build applications that automate any aspect of their services. This episode brought to you by Neota Logic. Links: The Legal Education Foundation Digital Justice: HMCTS data strategy and delivering access to justice Briefing: Coronavirus Bill, Courts and the Rule of Law1 Civil Resolution Tribunal Neota Logic Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In today’s episode no. 30 you are in for a treat to hear from Hallie Jay Pope, founder and director of the Graphic Advocacy Project “GAP”, a non-profit that uses visual communication tools---like comics, graphic design, and animation---to explain legal concepts and advance social justice. Hallie works with advocates and communities across the United States to create visual legal resources that engage, inform, and mobilize. Hallie is a delightful and creative person and very clear about her mission and how to achieve it, by drawing on her skills as an artist and designer, and lawyer. In this episode she shares how she became a legal cartoonist, how the GAP came about and the projects she’s worked on over the last 3 years. Hallie has strong views about why legal information is so hard to understand and discusses the biggest advantage of her law degree. We talked about naked characterisations of people - you’ll just have to listen to make sense of that and towards the end of the interview, Hallie defines legal innovation by what it’s not – both a lawyerly and creative response. Hallie was very frank about the challenges of founding and running the GAP and no doubt there will be entrepreneurs listening who will empathise. You should listen to this episode if you want to understand the benefits of visual justice, or you are challenged by resourcing and fundraising in your organisation and of course, if you are interested in making the law more understandable to the everyday person. This episode brought to you by Lex Narro and Neota Logic. LINKS: Graphic Advocacy Project The Convivial Toolbox Making comics by Linda Barry Lex Narro Neota Logic Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In today’s episode no. 29 I had the pleasure of speaking with Carolyn Devries, CEO and founder of Australia’s first non profit law firm New Way Lawyers for today’s episode. When Carolyn experienced a disconnect between how law is practised and what she learned in law school, and wanted to find a way to express her core values through her work, she developed the idea of and founded new way lawyers 10 years ago. Carolyn has strong views and advocates at every opportunity as to why legal services that involve strong emotions for the clients, such as family law and estate law, should be delivered through a non profit model. She sees family law as a community service with strong public policy implications, and I tend to agree. Provision of legal services, or someone’s inability to access legal services can lead to a greater demand on other social services. Carolyn shared her personal story about the early days of new way law, the fun and not so fun parts, especially being challenged by other members of the profession about her approach, sometimes from sectors of the profession you would expect to be more supportive. And you might be wondering, being not for profit how is this business sustainable? Carolyn explains how she keeps the lights on, while keeping her staff happy and her fees affordable. If you are someone who tunes in to hear about the use of technology in a practice, you’ll get a few tips towards the end of the interview regarding how to maximise efficiency and streamline services. Apart from increasing your profit margins, doing so could garner you interest in your practice from around the country and overseas, as it has in the case of New Way lawyers. This episode brought to you by Lex Narro and Neota Logic. New Way Lawyers Lex Narro Neota Logic Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In today’s episode no. 28, I interview John Mayer, Executive Director of the Centre for Computer Assisted Learning Instruction (CALI) since 1994. CALI is a non-profit consortium of 198 US law schools that conducts applied research in computer-mediated legal education and publishes over 1000 tutorials in 40 different legal subject areas for law schools, law firms and others interested in learning about the law. CALI also publishes Creative Commons law books at elangdell.cali.org and is the developer of A2J Author which is used by courts, legal aid and law schools to automate legal processes and court forms for self representing litigants. John explains what it was that led to the initial development of open source document assembly software, A2J Author around 20 years ago now and how it is improving processes for courts, self-represented litigtans and lawyers. John sees almost unlimited potential in making it easier to compile information for courts but also appreciates the challenges that legal assistance organisations face in doing so. He has some interesting views about the part that commercial legal tech vendors can play in this regard and somewhat curiously, the challenge of marketing a free platform. We discuss the best use cases for document automation and his views on AI and blockchain and also some deeper issues about social change movements and why innovation thinking is preferable to design thinking. John has a Bachelor of Science in Computer Science from Northwestern University and a Masters of Science in Networks and Telecomm from the Illinois Institute of Technology and has been working in legal education for over 30 years. This episode brought to you by Lex Narro and Neota Logic. Links: Centre for Computer Assisted Learning Instruction “CALI”  and elangdell.cali.org A2J Author LSC grants Lex Narro Neota Logic Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In today’s episode no. 27, I interview Meera Klemola, legal designer extraordinaire. We discuss what Meera appreciates about design - how it can break down silos between lawyers and other professionals, allow for empathy, change mindsets and de-risk solutions. I asked her the benefits and limitations of design thinking and how it compares to systems thinking. Meera has carefully considered all these issues through her work and postgraduate study into teaching design to non-designers, in particular lawyers. We also covered the essential ingredients of a successful design thinking project and how to evaluate effectiveness, something I’m always interested in. If you want to hear me being put on the spot with a creativity exercise definitely tune in. You might also be surprised about Meera’s views on whether anyone can practise legal design and whether it should be taught in law schools. Meera’s philosophy is to enable courageous change with design and technology. As a trusted advisor to global brands and top tier law firms, she is constantly exploring the ways design and technology can strategically advance businesses and legal systems. Formerly, Lead Legal Designer of a Nordic Law Firm, Meera was responsible for the integration and scaling of design practices through the firm to transform its offerings. She also spearheaded a series of design driven ventures for the firm including co-founding Europe's first legal design agency. In March last year, she founded Observagency. Both a strategic designer and lawyer, Meera holds a unique combination of qualifications in Law, Commerce and Design Management, giving her a truly multidisciplinary perspective and rare mix of creative, strategic and analytical know-how. This episode brought to you by Lex Narro and Neota Logic. Links: Observ Agency Legal design Hague Institute for Innovation in Law Stanford Legal Design Lab Lex Narro Neota Logic Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

Jackson Liu is a recovering lawyer and management consultant. He currently serves as Vice President, Markets & Growth for Neota Logic. In this role, he is responsible for growing the company’s presence across the globe by working with clients to create solutions and derive value out of the Neota Logic AI automation platform.

Is ethical artificial intelligence even possible? In response to growing concerns about issues with transparency, privacy, and AI bias, the American Bar Association passed Resolution 112 on August 12, 2019, which urged courts and lawyers to address the emerging ethical and legal issues related to the use of AI in the practice of law. Digital Detectives hosts John Simek and Sharon Nelson talk with Michael Mills about the landscape of AI in the legal space and what is being done to ensure the ethical and accountable use of AI technologies in the profession. Michael Mills is the co-founder and chief strategy officer of Neota Logic, Inc. Special thanks to our sponsor, Logikcull.

Is ethical artificial intelligence even possible? In response to growing concerns about issues with transparency, privacy, and AI bias, the American Bar Association passed Resolution 112 on August 12, 2019, which urged courts and lawyers to address the emerging ethical and legal issues related to the use of AI in the practice of law. Digital Detectives hosts John Simek and Sharon Nelson talk with Michael Mills about the landscape of AI in the legal space and what is being done to ensure the ethical and accountable use of AI technologies in the profession. Michael Mills is the co-founder and chief strategy officer of Neota Logic, Inc. Special thanks to our sponsor, Logikcull.

In today’s episode no. 26 I speak with Rohan Pavuluri, co-founder and CEO of Upsolve, a non-profit that helps low-income families file bankruptcy for free, using an online web app. In the last 12 months, Upsolve has relieved over $100 million in debt and is the largest not for profit provider of bankruptcy in the US. In this episode we discuss the issues that Rohan and his co-founder Jonathan Petts wanted to address in starting Upsolve, how the online platform actually works and who it is most suitable for. We cover the most common types of events that lead people into bankruptcy and why people should file but find it difficult to do so. While Rohan studied statistics at university he explains where his personal interest in justice and policy comes from. He also shares some of his personal difficulties with this venture, how he dealt with doubt in the early days and the ongoing challenges - and also what he’s most proud of. And for justice entrepreneurs starting out with a new venture, Rohan had some unexpected advice. This episode has it all and very much fits the themes of the podcast… sustainability, challenges of a justice entrepreneurship, the need for both advocacy and direct services, when to scale and when not to and the need for a deep understanding of the issue you are addressing. I suspect Upsolve will go from strength and strength for many reasons. One of which may be the fact that it is focussed on 1 singular issue, what do you think? This episode brought to you by Lex Narro and Neota Logic. Links: Upsolve Robin Hood Foundation Blue Ridge Labs Legal Services Corporation Lex Narro Neota Logic Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

Our guest in this episode is Jonty Bouskill, a customer success manager at Wazoku. In this episode, we discuss how Jonty pursued his interest in legal technology and became a legal tech consultant at Neota Logic, which included working within Allen & Overy’s Fuse. You'll learn more about what legal technology is, its benefits, and the challenges in the adoption of legal tech within law firms. Jonty also explains how you can learn more about legal technology if you have an interest in this space. This episode is hosted by: Jaysen Sutton. The music in this episode is created by: Ichabod Todd. ichabod-todd.weebly.com/

Episode summary: A short summary of Neota Logic a no-code automation tool, as well as an interview with Jackson Liu, Go-To-Market Strategy Lead at Neota Logic.Episode transcript (What does Neota Logic do?)On the show today we will be getting a taste for Neota Logic, a no-code automation tool that helps lawyers build their own legal apps. For those not familiar with the no-code automation term you may also have heard it referred to as an expert system. At the highest level these are software tools that let users build new software applications (in this case legal focused apps) and you can do this without having to learn a technical programming language. As a result lawyers that have in-depth understanding of particular problems or subject matter areas, but that are not technically minded can still build software solutions to address particular problems.As you might guess, Neota has a nice, simple user interface that lets you build applications, largely by dragging and dropping objects around the screen (which they refer to as a ‘canvas'). Although this is quite versatile and could be used to create a wide variety of different apps, in practice the two most common uses are for digital advice apps and document creation apps.In case you were wondering what those apps actually are, I’ll give you some quick examples. An example of a digital advice app would be something like a data breach advisor app, where if a user in your business provides the relevant context of a recent breach to the app it can offer legal advice on the most appropriate immediate actions to take, as well as informing the required people in your business automatically. And document creation apps are as you’d expect, they allow non-legal users to request contracts without going to their legal team simply by entering the key required data. So other than creating apps does it do anything else?Well ….Yes, behind the scenes Neota has a relational database that collects data entered via any of the apps you've built as well as from other sources linked via integrations. Now this may not sound super exciting to the average person, but because Neota is a no-code environment this means that users who traditionally would need technical support from a SQL developer to query a database are now able to find and access information themselves.And if all this app development is still sounding a little daunting….well Neota has you covered with an existing app template library, so rather than having to build from scratch, you can start with an existing template and just tweak it from there as you need. Episode transcript (Who should use Neota Logic?)We’ve heard a few examples of how you can use Neota, but who should be using it? And why?As I see it principle benefit of Neota Logic is that it enables non-technical SMEs to build apps they otherwise wouldn’t, immortalising their expertise in a tool so it can be utilised at scale and even continue to be used if that SME later leaves the organisation.And in today’s business environment with its never ending quest for greater efficiency Neota offers an opportunity to use technology to address very company specific problems, ones that larger software vendors might not be interested in addressing because they are too niche and wouldn’t necessarily be a scalable business for them.So if you have a complex or unique business where your legal processes are just stored in your employees heads, Neota might be something worth considering. About Neota Logic:Neota Logic provides no-code artificial intelligence software for automating legal and other professional service delivery. Neota Logic's platform allows clients to rapidly automate their professional expertise, helping to improve the quality of legal and business decisions while reducing risks and costs. For more information, visit www.neotalogic.comAbout Legaltech Tapas:Legaltech Tapas is a regular podcast that serves up bite sized summaries of the latest legal tools, what they do, and why you might use them. Each episode discusses a different legal tool, and includes an interview with a guest from that company so you can hear directly from the horses mouth why you should be using their product. To get the next episode direct to your inbox, sign up @ https://legaltechtapas.substack.com/ Get on the email list at legaltechtapas.substack.com

In today’s episode no. 24 Karen Finch, CEO of Legally Yours explains the reasons people don’t engage with lawyers and which suggested an online platform connecting clients with lawyers would be a valuable idea. Karen explains how the connections are made through the platform and what is critical to a successful relationship between lawyer and client. She shared the biggest challenge she’s faced in promoting the platform and what is unique about it, including what she’s learnt and applied from dating sites and who she’s turned away. We talked about the importance of people finding the right legal help at the right time and how beneficial it would be to the consumer legal market, for different stakeholders to collaborate on cross-referrals for different client groups and legal issues. We briefly discussed the Australian Legal Technology Association and women in tech. I really loved Karen’s definition of legal innovation, probably because I could relate so much to what she said. You should listen to this episode if you want to understand more about the barriers people experience in going to see a lawyer, are interested in developing trusted relationships with your clients, and otherwise curious about how legal services could be joined up so people know where and how to get legal help that they can trust. This episode brought to you by Lex Narro and Neota Logic. Links: Legally Yours ALTA B1G1 Lex Narro Neota Logic Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

- Reed Smith obtains ABS license to broaden client services - KPMG appoints former Law Society of England and Wales president as legal services ambassador - Young lawyers should be aware of LPOs impact on the legal industry - Quislex GC says acceptance of outsourcing in the legal market is growing - Utah piloting initiative to allow nonlawyers to offer legal services - Neota Logic launches a beta version of the Canvas application builder

In today’s episode no. 22, I had the great pleasure of speaking with Katie who is currently the Deputy commissioner of IBAC in Victoria and who in 2015 as then President of the Law Institute of Victoria wrote a paper “Disruption, Innovation and Change”. Her reasons for doing that research were quite unexpected, as was the connection she draws between tech, atj and her happy place the queen Victoria market! You will gain a lot from this episode if you are a legal tech start up or technology company looking to partner with justice organisations or working in an organisation and responsible for implementing new projects. Katie shares her definition of failure and the importance of leadership. We had a wide ranging discussion covering why solutions can’t be imported wholesale from other jurisdictions, tips for responding to people and organizations at different stages of their innovation journeys, how incorporated legal practices are relevant to innovation, challenges of implementing new technology in a government context and for community legal centres, and especially what’s needed with an organization before you consider collaborating on innovation projects. This episode is brought to you by Lex Narro and Neota Logic. Lex Narro is an easy to use app available on iOS, Android and web, that provides an effortless way for lawyers to manage, deliver and generate reports of CPD requirements. Subscribe here to make your lawyer life that little bit simpler. Neota Logic is a leading no-code AI automation platform, providing professionals with a wide range of easy-to-use tools to rapidly build applications that automate any aspect of their services. Recently, Neota released Canvas – which goes a step further by allowing subject matter experts to build applications on their own in minutes without any prior training or programming skills. More about Canvas here. Links: Disruption, Innovation and Change: The Future of the Legal Profession The Advantage Lex Narro Neota Logic Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

In this episode no. 18 I interview the first technology provider on the podcast! Dominique Simsion is Asia-Pacific Director of Consulting and Solutions at Neota Logic - the no code AI platform that enables the creation of intelligent web applications. Dominique explains what no-code document automation and expert systems are, the origins and evolution of the LawApps course which is a university course teaching project management and other skills that haven’t traditionally been part of a law degree. She was very open about the challenges for community legal centres and the potential benefits to Neota Logic in providing the course and positive about the outcomes for students. We covered about the challenge of sustainability for IT projects, how to turn talk into action including her tips for incorporating innovation across a legal practice and Dominique had some particularly interesting views on innovation by press release and hackathons. This episode will be of interest to lawyers wanting to understand how a no-code platform could work within their practice, community legal centres curious about how to incorporate technology, legal educators and law students interested in a legal tech program or practical experience. While there is understandable investment on Neota Logic’s part in the future of its own business and growing the ecosystem of those familiar with its platforms, there is a genuine commitment within the constraints of the university program, to make it the best experience possible for the students and the community legal centres that Neota Logic aims to support. It’s a really interesting example of collaboration between a technology provider, community law, universities and the private profession and it illustrates my point that everyone can play a part in improving access to justice. Links:  Neota Logic LawApps University of Melbourne Youth Law Street Law “LEGAL INNOVATION” Education in Australian Law Schools Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au Twitter - @ReimaginingJ Facebook – Reimagining Justice group

- LAC Group acquires ShiftCentral to add depth to research and competitive intelligence services - Law firm's launching subsidiaries as clients embrace alternatives - Thomson Reuters expands suite of cloud-based offerings with acquisition of HighQ - LexisNexis forms contract management joint venture with Axiom subsidiary Knowable - Simmons & Simmons acquires Wavelength to introduce new client services, solutions -Bloomberg Law unveils automated brief analyzer with beta testing planned this fall -Neota Logic partners with Repstor on automation of matter intake, creation

- Opinion: GCs must leverage AI to move beyond limits of case-by-case matter management - Deloitte expands employment law capabilities in the U.S. through Epstein Becker alliance - LexisNexis launches compliance solution to help the legal sector with due diligence around money laundering - California bar examining how AI can improve efficiency - Neota Logic, LawGeex partner to introduce contract review, automation solution

2019 Global Legal Hackathon judges Kevin Mulcahy, Josh Klayman, Esther Dediashvili, and Oz Benamram join On The Road host Laurence Colletti to talk about how the hackathon promotes legal tech development and what they look for in winning teams. They share what personally motivated them to get involved as hackathon judges, and give their thoughts on which teams are the strongest contenders in this year’s competition. Israel's legaltech pioneer, Adv. Esther Dediashvili, leads the collective knowledge and professional expertise management, as well as legal technology implementation at FBC & Co, one of the largest law firms in Israel. Oz Benamram is White & Case’s chief knowledge officer, providing strategic direction on the firm’s knowledge management and tech-enabled innovation. Kevin Mulcahy is vice president of education and community programs at Neota Logic. Josh Klayman is founder and CEO of Klayman LLC, a boutique blockchain law firm, and Inflection Point Blockchain Advisors, LLC, a blockchain strategy consulting and advisory firm.

I spoke with Kim Massana, the president and CEO for Neota Logic, a low-code application development platform used by a variety of organizations throughout the legal community. We discussed his new role at Neota Logic, the advantages of low-code application development, and key use cases for this technology.

I spoke with Kim Massana, the president and CEO for Neota Logic, a low-code application development platform used by a variety of organizations throughout the legal community. We discussed his new role at Neota Logic, the advantages of low-code application development, and key use cases for this technology.

I spoke with Kim Massana, the president and CEO for Neota Logic, a low-code application development platform used by a variety of organizations throughout the legal community. We discussed his new role at Neota Logic, the advantages of low-code application development, and key use cases for this technology.

I spoke with Kim Massana, the president and CEO for Neota Logic, a low-code application development platform used by a variety of organizations throughout the legal community. We discussed his new role at Neota Logic, the advantages of low-code application development, and key use cases for this technology.

In this day and age, virtually every service provider has adopted some form of technology to assist clients and customers. Why should the delivery of legal services be any different? Scott Rechtschaffen, Chief Knowledge Officer at Littler Mendelson, and Kevin Mulcahy, Vice President of Education and Community Programs at Neota Logic, recently served as adjunct professors at Cornell Law School to teach students how law firms and tech companies are bridging the law-technology gap. The course, taught at Cornell Tech in New York City, culminated in a contest where students were able to showcase innovative ways to provide legal assistance through new platforms and applications. In this podcast, Scott, Kevin, and students reflect on the course and the evolution of legal services.

In September 2017, venerable Magic Circle law firm Allen & Overy launched Fuse, setting aside a portion of its London office for a collaborative innovation space to develop and test new legal technologies, and it named lawyer Shruti Ajitsaria to head the project. On this episode of LawNext, Ajitsaria joins host Bob Ambrogi to discuss why Allen & Overy started Fuse, explain what it does, and describe its work to date. Ajitsaria says Fuse is not an incubator, per se, but a collaborative technology innovation space that gives legal technology companies the opportunity to work directly with Allen & Overy’s lawyers and clients. It’s a win-win, she says. Companies get the chance to test and refine their products, while the firm’s lawyers get to better understand how technology can help them in their own practices. Ajitsaria was a credit-derivatives lawyer dabbling in angel investing when a pitch from a legal technology startup sparked her interest in legal technology. While on maternity leave, she attended Google Campus’ Startup School, and when she returned to work, suggested and then spearheaded the development of Fuse. Fuse differs from other incubators in that it accepts companies that are beyond early stage. Participants in the current cohort include AI platforms Kira Systems and Neota Logic. Another participant, Bloomsbury AI, was acquired in July by Facebook. Allen & Overy so much liked the first company it brought into Fuse, fintech company Nivaura, that it made an equity investment in it. Comment on this show: Record a voice comment on your mobile phone and send it to info@lawnext.com.

An all-new P3cast is here! Tune in as 2018 P3 — The Practice Innovation Conference Co-chair Kristina Lamright, ESQ. (director of pricing and legal project management, Perkins Coie) chats with pre-conference presenters Mike Wong (vice president of business development, Neota Logic) and Ryan McClead (vice president of engagement and strategy, Neota Logic) about technology and tools for firms. The discussion specifically focuses on automation, which is the topic of the May 14 pre-conference session. LINKS https://www.legalmarketing.org/P3 https://www.legalmarketing.org/p3-pre-conference-sessions https://www.neotalogic.com/

On February 25th 2018, Max Paterson and Zeke Hughes won the New York City chapter of the first Global Legal Hackathon with their app called Rights Now. In this episode of On The Road, co-hosts David Fisher and Laurence Colletti sit down with the winners to discuss how their new technology works and their swervey path to victory. Tune in to hear in to hear how this talking app informs people of their rights while getting pulled over by the police.  Max Paterson is the Senior Director, Education & Community Programs at Neota Logic. Zeke Hughes is Senior Director of Business Development at Mindcrest.

Expert systems, Robot Lawyer Lisa, the future of the legal sector, AI in society. Stephen Turner, the host of Lawyers of Tomorrow, continues his conversation with Chrissie Lightfoot, author, thought leader, investor, entrepreneur, mentor and government advisor.Stephen and Chrissie explore how expert systems technology is being harnessed by law firms to provide automated advice systems. Lawyers are building expert systems which capture legal knowledge and experience in a 'knowledge domain' which can then be leveraged for triage, advice, training and onboarding. Stephen and Chrissie discuss their own experiences in building expert systems, Chrissie via Robot Lawyer Lisa and Stephen via Lawyers of Tomorrow Technology.Stephen details how all law firms can build their own automated advice systems provided they are prepared to put in the work to build the rule systems that make up the expert system. Stephen built a relatively simple expert system on intestacy entitlement in only four hours.Chrissie introduces Robot Lawyer Lisa, which is allowing businesses and consumers to create their own legal documents without the need of human lawyers but while still providing users with the legal advice that would normally be given to both parties by a set of lawyers. Lisa uses Neota Logic technology to power the reasoning and judgement elements of her system and brings the two parties together in a way that is totally impartial. The guidance and support that would normally be given to the parties by two sets of lawyers is visible for both parties, giving total transparency.Chrissie estimates that only 10% of the legal market is currently serviced by law firms, with 90% of the market representing non-consumption by consumers and businesses who cannot afford legal advice or who are deterred from using lawyers for various reasons. Chrissie predicts that in the next 5 to 10 years the world legal market is likely to move from around $800 billion currently into the trillions as providers of automated solutions move into the market to serve those areas which currently represent non-consumption. Chrissie further predicts that Big Law will expand its business model to move into areas currently served by medium-sized firms via commercialisation of legal technology based solutions now in development in legal technology incubators set up over the last few years.Chrissie and Stephen explore how chat bots are being used – for example, Do Not Pay - to provide consumers with legal advice in areas that are not serviced by law firms. In this way, individuals are empowered with self-help and self-serve solutions.Chrissie and Stephen discuss the effect of AI on society, including the deployment of police robots in Asia and the development of sex robots. With clear commercial drivers for such products, Chrissie explains how the law will need to regulate the incorporation of such robots into society. Chrissie stresses that it is incumbent upon society to balance the peril and promise that comes with the deployment of artificial intelligence and voices her concerns that human beings may not yet be sufficiently advanced or evolved enough to avoid dystopia. However, Chrissie is an optimist at heart and is committed to providing consumers and businesses with easy to access, easy-to-use and affordable self-service legal tools in order that there is access to legal expertise for all. Robot Lawyer Lisa is a big step in the right direction. 

Michael Mills has been helping law firms figure out their technological needs since before there was an internet. As one of the first of what are now known as chief knowledge officers, Mills played a leading role in educating his fellow lawyers and implementing tools and processes designed to help lawyers do their jobs more effectively. After over two decades in Big Law, Mills decided to stake out on his own, eventually co-founding Neota Logic, a company that allows users to design and create their own tools to fit their needs. Mills talks about his career, as well as what role technology will play in the legal industry going forward.

Michael Mills has been helping law firms figure out their technological needs since before there was an internet. As one of the first of what are now known as chief knowledge officers, Mills played a leading role in educating his fellow lawyers and implementing tools and processes designed to help lawyers do their jobs more effectively. After over two decades in Big Law, Mills decided to stake out on his own, eventually co-founding Neota Logic, a company that allows users to design and create their own tools to fit their needs. Mills talks about his career, as well as what role technology will play in the legal industry going forward.

Neota Logic applications deliver utilizes their advanced Artificial Intelligence platform, consulting knowledge, and custom expert systems to help businesses grow and develop in a smart, strategic manner. Neota Logic applications provides utilize rules, reasoning, resolution management & document automation, among other technology. Matthew Gillis, President of Neota Logic, explains how their system empowers non-programmers to quickly and easily create & deploy rules-based applications. These easy-to-maintain apps deliver improve business process, reduce risk and ensure compliance. Neota Logic applications generally focus on 3 types; Analysis & Advice, Intake Assessment and Document Automation. Intake Assessment guide users through complex fact-collecting & subsequent analysis. To learn more about these exciting applications listen to the podcast and make sure to subscribe, share and review.

I spoke with Matt Gillis, the president of Neota Logic, a software platform for developing artificial intelligence applications, which is focused on the legal and compliance industries. We discussed how in-house lawyers and legal operations professionals can improve the efficiency of how they deliver support and advice to business partners, what successful law firms of the future will look like, when legal professionals are using information effectively, and his advice for lawyers entering the profession, among other topics.

I spoke with Matt Gillis, the president of Neota Logic, a software platform for developing artificial intelligence applications, which is focused on the legal and compliance industries. We discussed how in-house lawyers and legal operations professionals can improve the efficiency of how they deliver support and advice to business partners, what successful law firms of the future will look like, when legal professionals are using information effectively, and his advice for lawyers entering the profession, among other topics.

I spoke with Matt Gillis, the president of Neota Logic, a software platform for developing artificial intelligence applications, which is focused on the legal and compliance industries. We discussed how in-house lawyers and legal operations professionals can improve the efficiency of how they deliver support and advice to business partners, what successful law firms of the future will look like, when legal professionals are using information effectively, and his advice for lawyers entering the profession, among other topics.

I spoke with Matt Gillis, the president of Neota Logic, a software platform for developing artificial intelligence applications, which is focused on the legal and compliance industries. We discussed how in-house lawyers and legal operations professionals can improve the efficiency of how they deliver support and advice to business partners, what successful law firms of the future will look like, when legal professionals are using information effectively, and his advice for lawyers entering the profession, among other topics.

As globalization changes the legal marketplace, solo and small firm lawyers are scrambling to keep up. Why are so many attorneys resistant to embrace new technology? Should technological competence be the responsibility of law schools, the American Bar Association, or individual lawyers? In this Special Report, Legal Talk Network host Adriana Linares and John Stewart, lawyer and legal techspert, interview Michele DiStefano and Michael Mills, presenters at the 2015 Clio Cloud conference. Michele, a law professor and founder of LawWithoutWalls, talks about globalization, the changing nature of legal services, and the responsibility law schools have to teach technological competence. Michael, a lawyer and founder of Neota Logic, Inc., discusses collaboration and interstate business models, eradicating the term “non-lawyer”, and how state bars and the ABA can encourage progressive change.