Podcast appearances and mentions of Brian Banks

Hosted by IPA Commercial Leadership Group Chair Jason Cobbold, The Money and the Magic is the newest IPA's Podcast series and will explore the intersection of creativity and commerce, and how businesses can turn ideas into profit. In the first episode, Jason is joined by music industry legend Brian Banks. Together, they explore Brian's thoughts on musical creativity and his career working on Michael Jackson's Thriller and developing iconic scores for some of the world's biggest brands, including Apple and IBM.

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  Contributors are listed here: Danielle S. Castillejo (Rueb), Cyon Edgerton, Rachael Reese, Chasity Malatesta, Debby Haase, Kim Frasier, Briana Cardenas, Holly Christy, Clare Menard, Marjorie Long, Cristi McCorkle, Terri Schumaker, Diana Frazier, Eliza Cortes Bast, Tracy Johnson, Sarah Van Gelder, Marwan, and more Welcome to the Arise Podcast, conversations on faith, race, justice, gender, and spirituality. You'll notice there's going to be some updated changes and different voices on the podcast this season. It's season five. It's October 1st, 2024. I haven't recorded a podcast since June of 2023, and at that time, if you've been following along in my town in Kitsap County, we were working through what would prove to be an extensive and prove to be an extensive fight for justice in our school district. And at this time, we have made some very significant shifts. I want to get into this episode to kind of catch you up on where I'm at, where the podcast is at, and hopefully as you listen to myself and some different voices on these upcoming podcasts, you understand that we have this fundamental common theme amongst us, which is our humanity. And when we drop down into that humanity, because our work, our lives, our families, there's all these poles and all these different ways for us to separate ourselves from our humanness and be busy or accomplish this or accomplish that.(00:01:52):And I know because I'm in there too, we actually separate ourselves from our neighbor. And so I'm hoping as we engage tough topics of politics and we get into the sticky points of it, that there's a sense that, yeah, I don't agree with that person or I agree with that person, but there is a sense that there is shared humanity. And so as we talk about these different subjects, I wanted to emphasize that first, an article was released in the fall last year saying in September of 2023 saying that there was, the school district's investigation had concluded and they had deemed that there was no racism in the North Kitsap School district. As you can imagine, a report like that on the front page of the paper, after all we'd been through after sitting through numerous hours of meetings listening to families and their experiences was disheartening.(00:02:45):We came to find out that some of the families felt or experienced what they deemed to be threatening tones from the investigators or understood that they could possibly be under penalty of perjury depending on what they answered. And I'm not saying that this was always the case, but the threat was on the table. And when you're dealing with working with majority world peoples who are marginalized in the United States, that threat can be very real. And the impact of it is very great. So I began to understand that this investigation wasn't actually looking for the truth and how to solve the problem. It was actually looking for a way of complete and utter defense against what these families had reported their students had experienced. It's a very different thing. And I think there were rumors like were these families going to sue the district, bring a lawsuit to the district?(00:03:41):And we've seen in neighboring school districts, just in recent times, lawsuits have been filed for much less. I mean, we had 90 original complaints. We have more people that had come forward as time had moved on. And yet there was never a move to actually file a lawsuit. We didn't file a lawsuit. We continued to move forward with our lives and think about our students. I think at some point in last fall of 2023, there was just a sense of deep despair like we put in years of effort. And the result was this report that basically attempted to delegitimize all the stories of all these families. It was horrible and heartbreaking and followed the fall. And in the late winter there was going to be a vote for this school bond. And as the yes for the bond campaign rolled out, led by a committee of yes folks, which included some Paul's Bowl rotary members and then the superintendent, it became clear to different community members that there were a lot of questions still to be asked, a lot of information we wanted to have and a lot of things that just felt like they were missing.(00:04:57):I'm not saying they were all missing, but there were pieces and details that appeared to be missing. And when we asked the questions similar to what happened with the complaints, we didn't get answers. The answers were couched in long paragraphs or explanations, and the architects seemed like they didn't have access to the buildings. Again, we didn't know all the details of what happened. And this is just a general recap. You can look at the ensuing political drama online. If you Google superintendent signs and polls Bowl, Washington, P-O-U-L-S-B-O Washington, you will find articles on NBC to Fox News to video clips, all of the above. There were signs all over our county, as I'm sure in your different counties or if you live in Kitsap, you've seen them political signs, vote yes on the bond, vote no on the bond, et cetera. And it appeared that signs were going missing.(00:06:02):And in one case, the signs were going missing often in one particular location and a pair of folks who are not married who became allied because they were both against the bond and had been putting up no on bond signs, decided to put up a wildlife cam and we're able to capture a person destroying the signs on video. And again, Google sbo, Google signs, Google Superintendent look for February 20, 24 articles and you'll see the ensuing reports of what happened. This became a chance for us actually to revisit our story because there's a theme of dishonesty from the top leadership. There was a theme of hiding. There's a theme of not giving all the information a theme of there's any extent we can go to that bumps up against the law. By the way, I think it's against the law to destroy political signs. So there's just this theme that you could break the law and get away with it.(00:07:08):We've seen in the top politics of our country down to the low level politics of our country. And what was our community going to do with all of this? We rallied together. For the first time in many years, there were literally hundreds of people on a zoom call for a school board meeting. News agencies showed up again, and sadly, our district was in the news for something else negative related to the top leadership. And it was very sad. The process. The superintendent was put on leave and resigned in June, but stopped working essentially closely with the school board. I think it was in March or April of 2024. I just remember that when the harm stops, when someone harmful is told by law enforcement or the law or someone else in a higher power to stop harming it, it's a relief. But also that's the time when all of the residual trauma sets in the trauma that you've been going through to be in proximity to someone in leadership and you're literally powerless to address it.(00:08:19):And I guess I bring this up to say that as we think about politics nationally, locally, whether it's a school board member or a president, I remember feeling challenged When I live in a small town, paulville was a small town. It is not like Seattle size. It's like got rural folks. There's folks that commute into the city of Seattle. We're, we're a mix of all different kinds of socioeconomic backgrounds. Our school district is now 38% Spanish speaking this year. There is a genuine mix. So when you're out and about in this small container, Kitsap's also very small too. It's rural, it's small. We're kind of contained on our own peninsula. When you're in this environment, the chances that you're going to see someone that you're know are really high, it's not like if you hate someone about, you're not going to run into Donald Trump here.(00:09:11):You're not going to run in here, run into Kamala Harris here. It's not like you're running into those folks, but you might run into your representative. You might run into the school board member from this district or another district. And how are you going to see that person that actually you not only disagree with, but you felt has been unjust to you? Costs a lot. I mean, money's one thing, but time, effort, family, reputation, allies, there is so much time involved and the way forward. You think it's clear when you're fighting on behalf of kids, you're advocating on behalf of kids. That feels really good. But the process to work through that advocacy often doesn't feel that great. You have to become allies with people you don't agree with. And so I think that just brings me back to where do we find our common humanity?(00:10:06):Where do we find space to occupy a same piece of land or a same meeting or a similar, we have similar causes, but maybe there's deep hurt between us and maybe that hurt is to the point where we're not going to ever talk to that person again, and how do we still see them as human? How do we still see them as valuable in this world? How do we still gain compassion? Those are things I ask myself and I don't have the answers. So I've included a number of folks asking a similar questions about humanness, about politics, about where they locate themselves in their various positions, their race, ethnicity, et cetera, and how do they come at this? And I hope you enjoy the following conversations because I conversations or talks from these people, commentary from these people as we hear all different perspectives. Now you may hear someone and be like, I can get down with that. I agree with that. And then there's another person you might be like, no way, no effing way. And so I encourage you to listen, stay curious with yourself and have talks with your family about how you're going to engage this political season.Speaker 2 (00:11:26):Danielle asked me how I see being human in the age of politics, and I'm struggling answering this because A, I am not a politician or have really any experience as a politician. I have experience as a community based organizer. So I am speaking on this on the outside of things. And then also I'm a white woman able bo, heterosexual woman. And the politics and the systems of power were built for me as a white person to thrive. And so I just want to locate myself in that because my view is of a privileged view. White folks can step in and out of politics without it really harming us. And that's a problem, obviously, and it distorts our view of politics.(00:12:55):But with this question, I have become more and more angry and upset with politics, policies, systems of power, the more that I unlearn and learn about my internal white supremacy culture and ways of being. And as the genocide in Palestine and other countries continue, I don't think the political structures are here for us. They're not people centered, they're not community centered. I think all politics are really about power. And so as an outsider, as not a politician and as a white woman, so those are flawed views. I'm coming from a flawed view. I see how politics change people or they make bad people even worse. I know local white folks that are in it for power and just continue on searching for more and more power. And I've witnessed community organizers join politics to really try to change the systems. But I don't think politics or the system was made to help humans. I don't think the system is for humans. And it hurts people, it divides people. I don't really know how to answer this question because I don't think politics and humanists can actually go together, not the way that they're set up now.Speaker 3 (00:15:09):These questions are so beautiful and just so right on time for this time, we're in right before an election where there's so much stress. My name is Sara Van Gelder and I am a friend of Danielle's and a resident of Kitsap County for many years have I was one of the founders of YES magazine. I also founded a group called People's Hub, which teaches community folks how to do local organizing, actually peer to peer teaching. I didn't do the teaching, but connected people together to teach each other and been associated as a ally of the Suquamish tribe at various times in my life, but I did not ever speak for them.(00:15:54):So my own humanity in the context of this political moment, I like to stay in a place of fierce love and do when I can. I can't say I'm always there. I'm often triggered. I often go into a place of feeling really fearful and anxious about what's going on in the world and more particularly the polarization and the rise of which what I don't like to call, but I think is actually a form of fascism. And when I talk about fierce, it means being willing to say the truth as I see it, but also love, which is that that is the motivator. I don't like seeing people get hurt and I'm willing to stand up and be one of the people to say what I see, but not in a way that is intended to degrade anybody. I am a mother, I'm a grandmother, I'm a daughter, I'm a sister. And being connected to people through love and that sense of willingness to protect one another, that's at the core. So even if I disagree with you, I'm not going to wish you harm.Speaker 1 (00:17:12):Wow. Wow. Even if I disagree with you, I'm not going to wish you harm. And I think what I've heard just particularly lately around the talk of immigration, let's say for an example, is the talk about immigration in the context of a particular city. For instance, they've used Springfield, Ohio over and over. It's come up many times and the demonization, the dehumanization of those immigrants, the miscategorizing of their status, it seems like some of this can get point hyper-focused on one particular example to make a political point or to drive fear home across different context, different communities. So when you think about that, do you wish those people harm that are making those accusations? How do you engage a tough subject like that?Speaker 3 (00:18:15):Yeah, it's a really hard one, and I could tell you what I aspire to do and what I actually do a lot of times is avoid people who have that level of disagreement with, because I'm not sure I have enough in common to even have a good conversation. So I don't feel like I'm as good at this as I'd like to be. But what I try to do is to first off, to recognize that when we're in the fight or flight sort of reptilian brain, when we're super triggered, we have the least capacity to do good work of any kind. So I try to get out of that mindset, and in part I do that by trying to listen, by trying to be an active listener and try to listen not just for the positions. The positions are ones that will likely trigger me, but to listen for what's beneath the positions, what is somebody yearning for?(00:19:10):What is it that they're really longing for beneath those positions that I find so harmful and so triggering. So in many cases, I think what people are looking for in this immigration debate is a sense of belonging. They want to believe that their community is a place where they belong and somehow believe that having other people who are from different cultures move in reduces the chances that they'll be able to belong. So what would it mean if they could feel like they belonged along with the Haitians in their community that it didn't have to be an either or is there a way to have that kind of conversation that what if we all belong(00:19:54):In that respect? The thing that I am sometimes most tempted to do, which is to cancel someone, if you will, that actually feeds into that dynamic of not belonging because I'm telling that person also, you don't belong in my life. You don't belong in my community. So it's not easy to do, but I do feel like we have a better chance of doing that locally than we have doing it nationally because locally we do have so many things we have in common. We all want to drink clean water, we want clean air. We want places our kids can go to school where they will belong and they will feel good. So if we can switch the conversation over to those deeper questions, and I think one thing I've learned from hanging out with indigenous folks is the way in which they think about the seven generations and how much more expansive of you that can give to you when you think that way.(00:20:54):Because instead of thinking about again, that immediate threat, that immediate personal sense of anxiety, you start thinking, well, what's going to work for my kids and my grandkids? I don't want them to be experiencing this. Well, that means something about having to learn how to get along with other people, and we want our kids to get along with each other. We want them to have friends and family, and when they marry into a different culture, we want to feel good about our in-laws. I mean, we want our neighborhood to be a place where our kids can run around and play outside. I mean, there's so many things that once you start expanding the scope to other generations, it makes it so clear that we don't want that kind of society that's full of hate and anxiety.Speaker 1 (00:21:44):Wow, seven generations. It is true. I do a lot of reading and I think about res, are you familiar with Resa and my grandmother's hands? And he talks about that the shifts we want to make in society, the shifts towards being more in our actual physical bodies and present with one another and the reps that it takes, the way we're disrupting it now to make a dent in the 400 plus year history of slavery and the act of embodying ourselves from the harm that has been done is going to take five to seven generations. It's not that he's not for change now. He absolutely is. And just having that long term, almost like marathon view perspective on what change has either for ourselves that can give ourselves grace and that we can also give others in our proximity grace, while also not engaging in active harm. I think there's an important part there. Does that make sense?Speaker 3 (00:22:51):Oh, it makes so much sense. And it's like that long-term view doesn't suggest we can put off working. It only even happens in the long term if we start today, we take the first steps today. So yes, absolutely makes sense. I'm not sure I'm patient enough to wait for all those generations, but I want to be keeping them in my mind and heart when I act. How is this going to contribute to their possibilities? So part of that is by thinking about these questions of belonging, but it's also questions of exclusion more structurally. I think the fact that our society has such deep exclusion economically of so many people, there's so many people across the board who feel so precarious in their lives. I think that sets us up for that kind of scapegoating because ideally what we'd be saying is, if you can't afford to go to college, if you can't afford a medical bill, if you can't afford a place to rent, there's a problem with our economy.(00:23:56):Let's look at that problem with our economy and do something about it. And I believe people have gotten so disempowered. So feeling that that's beyond them to do that. Then the next thing that the demagogues will do is say, well, let's look for a scapegoat then. Let's look for a scapegoat of somebody who's less powerful than you and let's blame them because that'll give you a temporary sense of having power. And that's how, I mean it's not unique to our situation. It's how fascism so often unfolds and how historically groups have been scapegoated. And I think we need to turn our attention back to what is the real cause of our anxiety. And I think the real cause of our anxiety is economic and political disfranchisement. Once we can actually tackle those topics, we can see how much more we can do when we work together across all isms and make things happen for a world in which everyone has a place.Speaker 1 (00:24:55):So then if you know people in your sphere, let's say, and don't name them here, that border on the narrative that says, if you disenfranchise someone less powerful than you, that will bring you some relief. If you have people like that in your life, Sarah, how do you approach them? How do you engage with them if you're willing to share any personal experience?Speaker 3 (00:25:28):Yeah, so my biggest personal experience with that was working as an activist alongside the Suquamish tribe when a lot of their immediate neighbors were trying to keep them from building housing, keep them from building relationships with other governments and actually took them to court trying to actually end their sovereign right to be a tribe. So that was my most direct involvement and that was 20 years ago. So it seems like ancient history, but I learned a lot from that, including from working with tribal elders who provided a lot of leadership for us and how we should work. And one of the things that I've learned from that and also from being a Quaker, is that the notion of how you talk to people in a nonviolent way, and a lot of that starts with using I statements. So when people in my neighborhood would say really disparaging things about the tribe, I would respond with, I feel this. I believe the tribe has sovereign rights. I believe they have always been here and have the right to govern themselves and build homes for their members. And it's harder, it's not as triggering when somebody says, I instead of starts with a word(00:26:58):When somebody says, you immediately have this responsive defensiveness because it's unclear what's going to come next and whether you're going to have to defend yourself when you say I, you're standing in your own power and your own belief system and you're offering that to someone else with the hope that they might empathize and perhaps even perhaps be convinced by part of what you have to say. But in the meantime, you haven't triggered a worsening of relationships. And one of the things I really didn't want to do was create anything that would further the violence, verbal most cases, violence against the tribe, sort of getting people even further triggered. So it was just really important to always be looking for ways to be very clear and uncompromising on really important values, but be willing to compromise on ones that were not important. So for example, when we were working on getting the land return to the tribe that had been a state park, we asked people what's important to you about how this park functions in the future? Because the tribe can take that into account they, but the idea that it is their land, the home of chief Seattles, that was not something we could compromise on.Speaker 1 (00:28:17):I love that using I statements intentionally checking in with yourself so you're not engaging in behaviors that trigger another person further into more defensive mode. Sarah, what are some resources or recommendations you could leave with me or us? When you think about engaging people and staying very present, it's a very human stance to say, I think I believe this versus an accusatory tone like you are this, you are that.Speaker 3 (00:28:50):I think the nonviolent communication that Marshall Rosenberg developed is very powerful. He has a very specific technique for having those kinds of conversations that are very focused on that notion about the I statement and also reflecting back what you hear from other people, but then being willing to use statements about what I need because saying that puts me in a position of being vulnerable, right? Saying I actually need something from you. You obviously have the choice of whether you're going to give it to me or not, but I need to be in a place where I can feel safe when we have these conversations. I need to feel like I live in a community where people are so then the other person has that choice, but you're letting them know and you're again standing in your own power as somebody who's self-aware enough, it also invites them to be self-aware of what they need.Speaker 1 (00:29:46):I love that. Yeah, keep going.Speaker 3 (00:29:50):I think there are other resources out there. I'm just not calling 'em to mind right now, but I think nonviolent communications is a really good one.Speaker 1 (00:29:58):And locally, since you talked locally, what are maybe one or two things locally that you regularly engage in to kind of keep up your awareness to keep yourself in a compassionate mode? How do you do that for youSpeaker 3 (00:30:16):Being out in nature? Okay,Speaker 1 (00:30:19):Tell me about that.Speaker 3 (00:30:22):Oh, in Japan, they call it forest bathing, but it's just a fancy term for being in some places it's really natural. There's beautiful walks. We're very fortunate here in the northwest that there are so many beautiful places we can walk. And when you're surrounded by preferably really intact ecosystems where you can feel the interactions going on among the critters and the plants and just let that wash over you because part of that as well, it kind of helps take some of the pressure off. It sort of releases some of us being kind of entangled in our own ego and lets us just have greater awareness that we're actually entangled in this much larger universe. It's much, much older and we'll go on way after we're gone and extends to so many different ways of being from a bird to a tree, to a plate of grass, and we're all related.Speaker 4 (00:31:33):Hey, this is Kim. So just a brief background. I am a 41-year-old biracial woman. I am a mom, a nurse, a child of an immigrant, and I identify as a Christian American. Thanks Danielle for asking me to chime in. I just wanted to touch base on this current political climate. I would say as a liberal woman, I really enjoy diversity and hearing and seeing different perspectives and engaging in meaningful conversation. Unfortunately, I feel like right now we are so polarized as a country and it's not like the air quote, good old days where you could vote for a politician that you felt like really represented your ideals and kind of financially what you value, policies, et cetera. Now I feel like it has become really a competition and an election of human rights, and I think for me, that's kind of where I draw my own personal boundary.(00:32:40):I think it's important to share different perspectives, and I think I do have a unique perspective and I enjoy hearing others' perspectives as well, but for me, I do draw the line at human rights. So I have learned over the years to just not engage when it comes to issues of individuals being able to choose what to do with their body, women in particular, it's terrifying to me as a nurse and a woman and a mother of a daughter who could potentially be in a situation at some point and not be allowed to make choices about her own body with a doctor. Also as the child of an immigrant, I was raised by a white mother, Irish German Catholic, and my father is an immigrant that has been here since 19 76, 77. He is from Trinidad and Tobago. He's actually served in the military and I have a hard time with vilifying people of color trying to come to this country and make a better life for themselves and for their future and their future generations, which is exactly what my dad was doing. So to me, it's a no-brainer, right? Not to tell anybody what to do or how to vote, but I think that it's really hard right now to hold space for individuals who may be attacking my rights as a woman, my ability as a nurse to be able to care for patients and really what this country was supposedly built on, which is being a melting pot and allowing any and everyone here to be able to pursue the American dream and make a life for themselves and their loved ones.Speaker 5 (00:34:34):As soon as the topic turns to politics, I feel myself cringe, and then I want to internally retreat a bit. Looking back over the past eight plus years, I realize I have been feeling like this for a long time. My body holds memories of heated, uncomfortable confrontive distancing and sometimes horrifying conversations with friends and at times, even with family, I'm tired as most people tired from the collective traumas. We have all lived through political, racial, and pandemic related. Eight years ago, I think I worked to try and remain objective. I told myself that my job was just to hear the other person with curiosity, but doing that was not enough to help me stay well in the midst of what I truly could not then and cannot still control. I've come to realize that I have to stay connected to my own feelings, to my own limitations.(00:35:37):I have to make space to feel my disappointment, my disgust, my fear, my sadness, my powerlessness, my ache, even my longing still when it comes to the realm of politics, I have to make room for my own humanity and then I have to be willing to share that, not simply be a listening ear for others. What's been most difficult for me as politics has driven division and disconnection is the loss of healthy dialogue and conversation. It feels to me like relational loss is there where it doesn't seem like it always has to be. I am passionate about the table, about creating and cultivating space at a table for all the voices and for all of the stories to belong. I still believe in this, and when I'm connected to my own humanity, it makes me far more open to the humanity of another, knowing my own stories that are being stirred up and activated by injustice, by what I perceive to be irresponsible politicians and policies that don't make sense to me and at times scare me when I'm in the presence of those who hold very different political views from me.(00:37:02):I have to actively choose to not just tolerate listening to them, but instead to try and listen for something more. I try to listen for the fear that often fuels their positions. The fear is always storied and the stories offer taste of their humanity and oftentimes their experience of suffering, which always offers the opportunity for empathy. I can't do it all the time. Some situations don't afford the time for curiosity and sharing. When that happens, I need space afterwards, space to release what I don't need or want to hold that I heard space to feel my own humanity again, and then space to choose to remember the humanity of the other person, and that is all an active practice. I think that othering people into political camps and categories is easily available and every time it happens, we lose more and more of our collective humanity and we feed the machine of hate that profits from our conversational and emotional laziness.Speaker 6 (00:38:11):I can't say it's always easy, that's for sure. What I try to do is see another person, whether it's around the political views or other things that I may not agree with somebody about or I might even actually see them as a quote enemy, is for one thing, I drop into my heart and get out of my head about ideas, views, and just try to be present in my heart as much as possible with as little judgment as possible and recognize the essence of the other person, the essence that's inside all the beliefs and the views, and recognizing also that we all have some sort of wounding from our lives, maybe our lineages, our generations, maybe even past lives and or trauma, and that that can obscure the essence of who we are, and I try to really remember that essence in another person.(00:39:34):And in relation, how do you see your own humanity? The other question you ask, how do you see your own humanity in the context of political dialogue? I have to say that's not really a question I thought about. I thought about how to see the humanity in others, so I really appreciate this question. I think if I start othering the other, if I get into too much judgment, I feel like I lose my own sense of humanity or at least the type of human I hope and wish to be. What helps me to I guess, discern when I'm in my own humanity, when I'm in the best of places, I guess I don't know how else to word that is I tune into my values. What do I value most and am I living by those values in the way that I want to be human In this world, for example, for me, integrity is super important as well as respect and compassion.(00:40:44):I'm not saying I'm always in this place, but these values that I aspire to live by help bring me into my own humanity and almost like check, checking in, tuning in checkpoints in a way, when I speak about compassion, sometimes people, all of what I'm saying, I want to, even though I'm maybe trying to see the essence of someone, I do try to discern that if there's being harm done, I'm not okaying any harm at all. And when I try to live by compassion, I feel like that's when I can really see the humanity in others and compassion for myself. I view compassion as a very active verb, a little bit different than empathy. Just that compassion is seeing the suffering, but wanting to do something about it and doing something for me. Compassion includes action, and sometimes that action is helping to disrupt or interrupt harm that's happening, and that's how I can show up in my humanity for others is the best I can do is acting as well as being that balance both, andSpeaker 7 (00:42:23):I'm Diana, she her and I didn't use to see myself in politics the way that I do now. It took decades for me to really start to get a grasp about who I actually am and how the ways I view politics, the ways I vote, who I support, how it actually affects me, and I spent a lot of years voting for things that hurt me without even realizing I was doing that because I was following the messaging and believing it. Ultimately that being a good fill in the blanks meant voting for fill in the blanks or being a good fill in the blanks meant donating to or supporting or whatever, fill in the blanks. And I hurt myself by doing that because I wasn't listening to my own knowing or my own intuition or looking in the mirror at who am I? What kind of world do I want to live in? I didn't ask myself those questions. I did what I thought I was supposed to do to fall in line, and there were people in my life during that who spoke truth, and it was true because it was individual to them. It was, here's what I know about me and here's what this policy means for me. And I didn't get it. I certainly didn't get it.(00:44:09):I judged it inside my own head, and yet those people who spoke their own individual truth are the people who were able to shed light through the cracks in my facade. And years later, I remember some of the things that people said or that they posted or whatever because those were the light that I saw through the cracks and it was so memorable, even though at the time I might have been irritated by it, it was memorable because I loved and respected these people and so their words didn't matter to me, even though at the time I very much disagreed and I hope that I will be allowed to be the light in some people's cracks because I know for a fact there's so many people like me who haven't actually looked at who they are, what they want, what kind of world do they want to live in if they separate themselves from the ideology of where they work or where they go to church or their family of origin or what their spouse is telling them, no honey, who are you? What do you want? And when people can be brave enough to do that, its everything up.Speaker 8 (00:45:46):My name is Marwan Cameron, and I was asked to answer a couple questions here, and the first question was, how do you see your own humanity in the context of political dialogue? And I had to think about this question. Our humanity is front and center when we talk about politics primarily because the issues that affect us, meaning the black community are often sidelined or ignored. I'll share some examples of that. Democrats and Republicans both speak about healthcare, the economy crime, but when they have centered those conversations around the realities they face, when do you actually see that take reparations. For example, we hear a lot about tax cuts or healthcare reform, but nothing about reparations for chattel slavery, for foundational black Americans which are owed to black people for centuries of exploitation. You can even look at our prison system where men are going to prison without HIV and very low percentages and then coming out several times higher when they are released from jail and prison, and I'll get into some of those stats. Also.(00:47:15):When we look at black men that are falsely accused of sexual assault, unfortunately we go back to Emmett Till and we never really talk about the contemporary men. I have a list of a hundred black men that have been falsely accused in the last five years alone. Albert Owens 2023, Christian Cooper, 2020, Joshua Wood, Maurice Hastings, Jonathan Irons, 2000, Anthony Broadwater, 2021, Mark Allen, 2022, Franklin, west 2020, Michael Robertson, Shaw, Taylor, Dion, Pearson 2021, Stanley Race 2019 Rashan Weaver 2020. Henry Lee McCollum, 2020. David Johnson, Jamel Jackson, Charles Franklin, Kevin Richardson, Raymond Santana, Corey Wise, you, Celine, Aron McCray, Brian Banks, which is a pretty famous name, Wilbert Jones. That's just 20 names in the last five years of a list of a hundred that I have that have been falsely accused of sexual assault, these aren't things that we talk about. Question two, how do you make space for folks in your proximity who did not share your political views as a heterosexual black male in this country, you really have no choice but to make space for others' Political views as in question number one, we are really only allowed to speak about injustices or political needs in the framework of the black community as a whole.(00:49:25):Matter what side you find yourself on, whether you're a Republican, we're oftentimes they straight up say, we're not acknowledging what your needs are. We're not going to do anything about your needs. You can come over here and vote with us if you want. As Trump said, what have you got to lose? What have Democrats done for you? Or you can look at the democratic side where in the last three elections, it's been existential against Donald Trump. And when Donald Trump won and then lost and is running again, we still haven't seen things like the repeal of qualified immunity, things like atoning for the most heinous crimes that the United States has committed in chattel slavery against black men. I've made space. We have made space as black men in regards to those who do not share our political views. Black men have fought in every war for the United States of America. We have stood up, stood behind, been sacrificed for the good of almost every cause, and we're told not yet. It's not the right time. We too need, have needs, and it becomes a zero sum game.Speaker 9 (00:51:19):Growing up, we had Sunday dinners at my grandparents. Conversation was always lively with my family, talking loudly, fast, and often right over each other. We talked about everything, what was happening around us, our community, what was in the paper and on the news that evening. We didn't always agree. In fact, I think my grandparents debated opposite sides. Just for fun, I fondly remember my grandmother saying, your grandpa and I are canceling each other's votes at the polls. They would both smile and sometimes laugh. Considering my upbringing, I was surprised to hear my instructor at cosmetology school lay down the law. Politics and religion were never to be discussed, not in school, and certainly not if we wanted to be successful professionally. I learned to smile and nod. I strive to find common ground with the opinion of guests. I was raised not to look for any offense with ideas that contrasted my own.(00:52:16):It takes both a left and a right wing to make the eagle fly and what a boring world this would be in if we all agreed. But then Trump happened up until he achieved power. Generally speaking, whether the law or policy was written by conservatives, liberals, moderates, there was a basis of bettering the American way of life. To be clear, this wasn't always the advancement of protection we agreed with, but we could see the logic of it. For the most part, Trump's leadership consists of a hatred for people who are not like him. Early on in his campaign, he told Americans to police their neighbors if they were of a specific religion he has built upon dehumanization and vilification every day sense. My mother lived in Germany for a few years and a town not far from Dau. It was the early 1960s and not yet recovered from World War ii.(00:53:21):This quaint little town overlooks the Bavarian Alps with architects right out of a storybook and a stunning view of Munich. It was evidence that the residents of this charming quiet village were aware that 800,000 people came in and no one left. History books paint the picture that everyone was scared of speaking up for fear they would be next. But with critical thinking, we know many of those approved. They've been listening to the nonsense of their leaders, their beliefs that Jews, the disabled homosexuals, immigrants were a burden on the healthcare system, education system, taking their German jobs, businesses, and homes. They were demonized so strongly, so powerfully. They were no longer human, no longer their neighbors, doctors, teachers, bakers seamstresses their talents, their skills and their very humanity no longer existed. We know this to be true, but what we don't talk about is the slope that good people slid down that enabled this to take place in the coffee shops, birthday parties, sitting with friends, playing cards, Sunday family dinners, these words came up.(00:54:43):Hitler's rhetoric spread and thoughtful kind people did not correct their friends, family, guests and clients. There were Nazis and sympathizers, but there were good people that saw through Hitler's dumpster fire of lies. These are the people I wonder if they ever slept well again. Could they ever look at themselves with honor and integrity? Trump proudly uses this method. He has people willing to do his bidding. He has sympathizers, but what he doesn't have is my silence, my obedience. My voice is the born power. I have to stand strong and correct the lies he tells and the people in my circle repeat. I will lose clients and friends taking this action, and that's a price I'm willing to pay, but I'm not willing to live out the rest of my days knowing that I didn't do everything in my power to stop in.Speaker 10 (00:55:49):How do you make space for folks in your proximity who don't share your political views? I am lucky that I live next to my parents and that my mother-in-law lives in a small home on our property. For years, there was a constant strife between my parents, myself, husband, and my mother-in-law due to political and religious beliefs, uncomfortable dinners, having to watch what you say, an aura of judgment that would seem to permeate family gatherings. They were quite the norm. And each time that they would leave, I would feel a sense of relief. Sometimes someone would decide not to come or just tell us that they needed a break. This would create less tension, but I worry that someone would feel left out or that they would feel judged if they weren't present. And actually that would happen more often or not, especially in my time of anger before and during Covid.(00:56:40):As mentioned before, when I decided that I needed to focus on my own sense of happiness and live up to my values and beliefs, I decided that my home would become a politics, religion free zone. I wanted my home to be a safe for everyone. And this was a tough transition. And what was most difficult was creating boundaries for our parents, having the hard conversations about why we're asking people to withhold their opinions on politics and religion and to focus on grandkids sports and family celebrations, et cetera. For the first few months, I was constantly reminding everyone of the rule, but eventually we all seemed to settle in and even catch ourselves when we deviated from how sex expectations, dinners and events became more pleasant. And when our guests would leave, I didn't have to decompress or worry about how to fix an issue or soothe someone's feelings.(00:57:27):This one simple step has been a game changer, and it's not always perfect, and sometimes people will slip up, but instead of taking on the issue, we will move the conversation to another topic. Some would say that we need to talk about the issues and debate their merits so that we can grow and come together. But no, after finding my purpose, I don't believe that being right is more important than someone else's feelings. I want everyone who sits at my table and breaks spread with me to feel loved and valued. It's not perfect because we're human, but we're trying one dinner at a timeSpeaker 11 (00:58:03):To how do I hold my own humanity? In the context of political dialogue, one of the first things that comes to mind for me is, at least in political conversations, what defines my humanity? When I think about politics, much of our politics is really about power and privilege, of which I happen to have both. And so when I'm thinking about politics, I'm thinking about my social location as a able-bodied, middle class, heterosexual Christian White woman, I carry privilege in almost every aspect of that identity, at least here in the United States. And so when I'm thinking about humanity and political dialogue, our political system has historically always been and continues to be set up to serve people with my type of humanity very well. The thing that I'm constantly trying to keep in my mind is what about the humanity of my brothers and sisters experiencing oppression, marginalization when it comes to my voice and my vote in political situations, I have over the years had to learn to think less about how can I use my vote and my voice to engage in politics in a way that benefits me because I'm already benefiting from our system.(00:59:42):Our system is set up to benefit people like me who carry great levels of social privilege. What I really want to know as I'm trying to use my voice and my vote wisely now, is how do I leverage both of those things, my voice, my vote, as well as my power and privilege to engage in political dialogue in ways that fix broken systems. So I am oftentimes not actually voting or advocating for the things that would benefit me the most or necessarily align perfectly with my theological or political ideals. I'm looking at where are the most broken places in our system? Where is our government currently oppressing individuals the most? And how can my vote and my voice be used to leverage our politics in such a way that those broken systems begin to get fixed and healed over time so that those whose humanity looks different than mine are receiving the same amount of privilege of assistance of power that they should be.(01:00:57):And when it comes to dealing with those that I'm in proximity with who have very different political ideologies than myself, of which I will say in my current context, there are quite a few. I am constantly having to remind myself to focus on core values, values over stances that our conversations and our engagement with one another centers not so much around opinions about specific political stances or issues as much as the core values that we share. If my core value is for equality and equity, if my core value is that we're caring for the poor and the marginalized, then regardless of what stances I might have on certain issues, my voice and my vote represents those core values. And I've found that even when certain stances might be different, when we dig into the core values that are at the root of our decision-making, there's oftentimes a lot more common ground than I ever expect there to be.Speaker 12 (01:02:06):This recording is for the fabulous Danielle Castillo. I think what I am seeing right now as I think about how to welcome people's humanity and politics are a few key things that are both shocking and I would say disappointing in a day and age where we seem to want to tolerate people not being locked into binary spaces, we have relegated differences and opinion and viewpoints into a bipartisan politic. And what that does is that means that there are people who are in and who are out. And we've had to embrace things that we both love and hate if we ascribe to any one of those bipartisan objectives. And so we've had to in some ways, in our own humanity, violate pieces of ourselves to say, well, I align this part one way, but even though I categorically reject their views on this another way. And then regardless of whatever spectrum you're on inside of that political continuum, and it's hard because at that point, if we say in a lot of other spaces that there's space for nuance and there's space for gray, then why here do we land in those spaces?(01:03:16):And so that would be the first that it is an either or, and we seem to be comfortable, most comfortable that way. And then to demonize and villainize somebody who's in the either or space, instead of allowing for the gray, you're either all for me or all against me, and you can't live somewhere in the middle. The second thing that would be shocking and disappointing for me is the way that we've been able to start arranging the things that we can tolerate. And so I can say, well, I love this candidate because I love these three things and I agree with them and I hate these four things, but they're not that bad. And you love this candidate, you love the other candidate for these three things, but you hate them for those four things. And the fact that you don't hate 'em enough over those four things means that you're a terrible person.(01:04:02):And I find that just so interesting and so sad that we've been able to say, well, the four things I can stomach that I don't like are somehow more or less worse than the four things you feel like you could tolerate or not tolerate. And so my list of sins or offenses that are easily navigable, somehow I get to become the moral compass over what should be enough or not enough to disqualify somebody for public service. I think at the end of the day, what makes us hard is that we see people in the middle as somehow exhibiting some sort of cowardice. And I think we're pushing people to violate their own humanity and say, as my experience changes and as the neighborhood changes and the people around me change, and my own philosophy changes that I can't stand in a faithful middle and say, well, I agree with some of this, but I don't agree with some of that.(01:04:54):And we've called those people cowards instead of principled moderates, and we've shamed them into saying, well, you have to choose something. And I think that is so unkind. And I think really at the end of the day, we are asking people to violate their own humanity and their own understanding of who they are and their own sense of who they are as a person by saying that they have to agree one way if they want to be a human or be a woman or be a person of color or be a person of faith. And I think it's both sides. I think every side is complicit. At the end of the day, what is really hard is that I think most people want to vote for the person that is going to lead well, and they want that person to be a good person. They want them to be an upright person.(01:05:37):They want them to be an authentic person, the same person behind closed doors as they are in the public face. And I would say, I don't think that's most people who choose politicking as a vocation, I believe that so much of their job is diplomacy and having to be a lot of faces in a lot of places. And so asking for that kind of authenticity and consistency in a social media world is almost asking the impossible. I don't think it totally is impossible, but I think it's exceptionally hard. Many of the things that we want to ascribe to one individual and how they uphold or represent their own party are carefully crafted narratives by a team of people who are professional politicians and marketers, and to ask them to give you an authentic person, their job is to not give you an authentic person. Their job is to give you an avatar that you feel you can most connect with so you can make the decision they want you to make.(01:06:33):And that is really for me, the reality of what we're up against right now is that we want to say we're voting for ideologies, and in reality we're voting for a carefully crafted narrative that is crafted by people who want you to believe a particular way. And I know that feels kind of negative, and that makes me so sad to even voice that out loud and to vocalize that out loud. But I would say that I hope in some way that we experience real freedom and real understanding of what it means to be a global citizen and to be a citizen of this country, is that we understand that. And the complexity of who I am as a person and how I interact with other people and how they understand their own complexity and their own humanity means that I can believe a lot of things that belong in a lot of different camps.(01:07:19):And that's okay. That's what honestly, being intrinsically American means, but also just to understand our own humanity in the global context is there are things that I will feel one way about and they squarely belong in one camp, but there are other things I believe that belong in another camp. And both of those things can be true for me without somebody demanding that I carry some sort of alliance or allegiance to one person. I think that's so gross and so foul at the end of the day. I think what makes America so interesting and so fascinating, but I also think so beautiful and so compelling and so desiring for people who are coming into our borders, is that there is this understanding that I can stand squarely as an individual person and be able to express myself as who I am as an individual and also belong to a collective that makes space for that.(01:08:14):And that is intrinsically what it means to be America. I'm free to be us, but I'm also free to be me. And so I think politics pushes us into a narrative that is against intrinsically who we say we are, and that really is the basis of freedom. And so that's what I would feel about that. Now, this is an added bonus, and I know you didn't ask for this, Danielle, but I'm going to give it to you anyways because I firmly believe this. I think it is more dehumanizing, and I think it is so incredibly sad that we don't allow for people to be principled moderates. That we are sanctifying the ability to castrate people's ability to be able to stand in the middle. And we vilify them as being weak or vilify them as being cowards because their understanding of what is actually evil is.(01:09:09):It's a broad spectrum. And to say that there is good everywhere, it is true to say there is evil everywhere is true. And how people interface with both of those things is true. And so I hate that we have become okay at using our theology and using our social media platforms and using our politicking as throwing stones for people who say, I want to hold a faithful middle. And that faithful middle means that I can believe a multitude of things and that I stand in the own gray and the nuance of who I am and how I understand my neighbors and what that looks like. And we know that some of those people are standing with compassion and with courage. And to call those people cowards, I think is the most ignorant, I'm trying to find the kindest way to say this, right? So I think it is just absolutely ignorant.(01:10:00):And then we've used quotes out of context and scriptures out of context to tell those people that somehow they're bad and evil people. And it's just not true that they're honestly sometimes the bridge builders and the unifier in places where they are trying to be peacemakers and they're trying to be people of peace. They're trying to be people of belonging and welcome. And so they're holding a faithful middle to say, my heart is going to take enough of a beating where people may misunderstand me, but I'm going to make it big enough and available enough where everybody can come sit under my tent. And I think that's brave work. I think that is courageous work, and I think that is humbling work that we could learn more from instead of castigating really more than anything else. So those are my 2 cents, honestly, more than anything else.(01:10:51):The last 2 cents I could probably give you that I think is so shameful is I am tired of any political party that tells me that they are doing more for working class Americans or doing more for poor people, and yet they're spending 2 billion to fly somebody around and send me junk mail to my home. I would much rather you stop buying ad space and then you actually go and serve the poor and somebody takes a picture of you doing that on accident. And I actually get to see that and go, oh my gosh, they're actually serving the poor. Do not tell me you're serving the poor or serving working class Americans and you haven't talked to one or seen one in a very long time. And my God, you have not lived in our shoes. You have not lived on our pay scales. You have not come in and volunteered regularly, and you only show up when there's a camera crew doing that.(01:11:34):That is so gross to me, and I hate that you send me mail about it and spend 2 billion fundraising for things like that. And yet that money could go to the poor and that money could go to programs. If there's one thing that makes me want to soapbox so bad, it is that more than anything else, I don't want to hear what your fundraising dollars have done to actually help your campaign. And that thing becomes a total waste when you lose. And that money doesn't go into the pockets of people. That money goes into the pockets of advertisers and radio stations and TV stations and social media influencers and all sorts of nonsense and actually doesn't go into the pockets and the hands of people who are feeding the poor that is garbage. So I feel very strongly about that, but I dunno if this is what you need, but that's how I make space. I make space for people who live at Principled Middle because I think blessed are the peacemakers and I want them to feel safe with me.Speaker 13 (01:12:26):Good morning. My name is Luis Cast. How do I see my own humanity in this political context? Well, it's simple as that. I'm a human being. I'm not a pawn or a little peace on a game. I'm a human being born and raised in Mexico, but I live here in the United States over half of my life now, and I'm a human being. And no matter what the promises they give me or what they're going to do in government, I'm still just a human being that wants the best for me and my family. And that's what they need to address the human being in us regarding not regarding color or race or where they come from. Treat us a as human beings. And the other question, how do I make space for folks who do not share my political view?(01:13:46):Well, again, it's just simple. I was taught that love whoever disagree with you or even your enemy. But to be honest, that's the hardest thing to do. People that don't agree with you or you don't agree with them, and sometimes they even hurt you. But I try to do my best, honestly, just to listen and sometimes put myself in their shoes because everybody has been brought up differently in families, cultures, regions of the country from the south, from New England, they call in the west in California. So we all have different views. So I just don't have an ear and sometimes an opinion, but mostly an ear so they can really listen to what they, I believe, where they come from, where they come from. So that is what I try to do. No, perfect, but that's what I try to do.Speaker 14 (01:14:59):Hi, my name is Claire. I am a white, cisgender, heterosexual woman. I live in Paulsboro, Washington. So the first question is how do I see my humanity in the context of this current political moment? And I'd start off by saying I come from a pretty privileged place, like my own personal humanity isn't very threatened just because I'm white, I'm straight, and yeah, my own family background. I have a lot of support and I'm not ever threatened with becoming homeless or something if I can't pay my bills. But still things are really scary for so many people right now. So I definitely feel that all the time. And I would say that it's just a really disheartening time. A lot of the, I mean, pretty much all politicians, I'd say are very untrustworthy at a local and national level. And I think we're all seeing that, especially in the context of what's happening in Gaza.(01:16:26):For the last over a year now, all these politicians that felt like they were progressive and would speak out when heinous things happened, most of them have gone silent or completely denied what's happening in Gaza, or just said really brief empty words, always proceeded by talking about Israeli hostages. So yeah, it's been terrifying because we realize the extent of politicians care for the general public and for the global wellbeing of humanity. And it only stretches so far because first and foremost, they're concerned about their own and standing in the political world because we've seen a lot of people lose their reelections for standing up for Palestinians.(01:17:38):And I think what's really disheartening is seeing it at a local level. In some ways, we expect national politicians to be pretty sleazy and skirt around really big, terrible, important issues. But seeing it at a local level has been really terrifying because I mean, they said it was then a couple decades ago, like 30, 40 years ago, there's more crises going on. And that really, for me, I've always thought, well, this is how it's always been. There's just the media reports on more stuff. We have social media, we can't hide a lot of things. So I don't know if that's true or not, but I mean, it probably is. We're in a time of climate crisis too, so it makes sense that things are just, they're not slowing down.(01:18:49):I don't know where I was going with that, but yeah, I guess I would just say humanity. It feels threatened on so many levels for my queer friends, for my friends of color, for any women or female identifying people just on so many levels, it just feels like our rights are being threatened and everything feels tenuous. If Trump wins, what the hell is going to happen to this country? And if Kamala wins, what the hell is going to change? I don't believe in politicians. They're not going to save us. That's how it feels. We have to save each other that are diehard Trumpers or something. I'd say all those people are my relatives that live in Wisconsin or a couple of coworkers, and we don't talk about politics, but on a deeper level, I try to remember that it's hard, right? Because hard, it's hard not to hate people for what they believe. I guess that's a horrible thing to say, isn't it? But I see the consequences of people who vote for Trump and put him in office the first time, their direct consequences because they voted for Trump and because of their beliefs and because of what they repost online. That just has bred so much hatred, and it's led to people being terrified for their lives and people losing their lives. There's so much propaganda being shoved down people's throats, the people that have Fox News plane 24 7.(01:21:06):I don't know the last time I watched Fox News, but I've overheard it. That stuff is crazy. They're being fed lie after lie after lie. So yeah, it's like people are also a product of their culture and it's hard to fight against your culture. So I try to give people some grace with that, but I also don't know how they can't see their own beliefs as harmful and full of hatred. I really don't understand. So yeah, it's hard. It's hard to remember people's humanity, but I have obviously my own blind spots and my own ways that I'm super ignorant and willfully ignorant in the things I look away from and the things like I'm resistant to learning because it's inconvenient or uncomfortable for me. So I try to hold that space for people too, because we're all learning. Yeah, it's a process of trying to remember people's humanity. And I think, yeah, but it just feels like when people support someone that spews so much hatred, it's really hard not to pin that blame on them as well, because they're also at fault for putting people like that in power. So I don't know. Yeah, it's a tough one.Speaker 15 (01:22:55):I feel like as somebody with various subordinated identities, whether that's being queer, being Latina, having a disability, being a woman, all of those things are increasingly politicized. And so for me, I find that political discourse specifically is often really dehumanizing and even performative on the other end of the spectrum. So our two major parties, Republican and Democrat with Republican, it's we well known that those political parties as they exist currently are working to strip away rights from people in all of those identity and affinity groups. While the Democrats, which I won't even say left, because current Democrats are right of center, when you look at a global pe

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En los años 80 el cine Western estaba en horas bajas. Pero algunos autores valientes, resistieron e intentaron rescatar este tipo de historias, tan profundamente norteamericanas. Este es el caso de “Arma Joven” (88) y su secuela “Intrépidos Forajidos” (90). El tono videoclipero, la música con guitarreos potentes, caras conocidas y actores propios del “Brat Pack” (encabezados por Emilio Estévez, Charlie Sheen y Kiefer Sutherland), así como una estética sucia y pretendidamente realista, buscaban que los jóvenes conectaran con las películas, dejando atrás ese concepto del “western de nuestros padres”. Analizamos a sus directores, un Christopher Cain que es conocido, y no para bien, por haber dirigido “El Nuevo Karate Kid”; y un Geoff Murphy, autor con más trayectoria y solvencia, que se encarga de la secuela. Además, como persona tras la idea y el proyecto, tenemos a John Fusco, prestigioso guionista, bajo el sello de la productora Morgan Creek Entertainment. Como elemento especialmente relevante, hablamos también de la banda sonora de ambas películas, con músicos como Anthony Marinelli y Brian Banks, y con un inspirado Alan Silvestri, acompañado por las potentes canciones de Bon Jovi. Por supuesto, no podemos dejar de tratar la figura legendaria de Billy el Niño, así como de su banda, los “reguladores”, de la “Guerra del Condado de Lincoln” y de otros episodios y datos históricos, que se contraponen y se confunden en una historia llena de lagunas y contradicciones. Todos estos ingredientes, agitados en un cóctel ochentero explosivo, son desarrollados por el equipo del programa, esta vez al completo, con un Javi García, nuestro propio “Niño”, que desempolva sus pistolas dispuesto a batirse con el primero que le contradiga; con un Óscar Cabrera, si no erudito, al menos siendo el único miembro del programa que sabe leer y escribir sin demasiadas faltas de ortografía; y con las aportaciones del sheriff del condado, el gran compañero pero inflexible “hombre de ley” en Remake a los 80, el camaleónico Juan Pablo Molina. Pero como tratar dos películas, con tantas cosas que debatir y que bien podrían provocarnos más de un “gatillazo” o “disparo en falso”, es una ardua tarea, se une a la lucha el inconmensurable Iñaki Sánchez, de la Frikoteca, en auxilio y ayuda. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Escúchanos también en www.remakealos80.com Recuerda suscribirte a nuestro canal de You Tube para estar al día de nuestros directos https://www.youtube.com/@remakealos80 Síguenos en Instagram y Twitter @Remakealos80 y búscanos en Telegram, te dejamos el enlace a nuestro grupo de para que compartas tus opiniones e interactúes con nosotros: https://t.me/joinchat/GXsRJYMd3wQVBG2v

This episode is sponsored by Collection7 Realty. In a world where the housing market is filled with uncertainty, where interest rates ebb and flow, and inventory remains scarce, it can seem like there's a lot of complexity between you and your next home. But it doesn't have to be that way! At Collection7, you'll have a trusted guide to help you navigate the home-buying process with a well-crafted clean plan. Your guide will lead you through every step, no overwhelming or confusing processes along the way. Ready to take the first step? You can personally text Collection7 founder Niki McClain at (405) 435-7278 to get started. Your next home is closer than you think, and at Collection7, they will ensure you get there!  ____________________________________________ Brian Banks has been involved in leading and operating businesses in Oklahoma City for over 30 years. An entrepreneur at heart, his professional experience has spanned healthcare, leadership, service and distribution. Brian has led a third-generation family business as well as new business start-ups where he has participated in industry consolidations and business acquisitions. As a student at the University of Oklahoma, Brian was awakened to the idea of using business as a platform for ministry and influence. He has been deeply impacted by faithful and experienced mentors who have invested greatly in him. As a result, one of his passions is encouraging and mentoring young leaders and helping them on their journey, both professionally and personally. Welcome Brian. ____________________________________________ Take the My Business Report for FREE today! Download the free Integrated Business guide at www.restorationgroup.co/guide Sign up for our weekly newsletter to get valuable insights about how to lead an integrated business.  Connect with Clay on LinkedIn  Follow Restoration Group on Instagram 

Darius is no stranger to stories. He has been in several Hollywood Movies(Nothing But The Truth, Brian Banks and The World We Make). He is a founding company member of Tennessee Shakespeare in Memphis Tennessee and he has performed all over the country in thousands of schools, universities, theaters and libraries as Frederick Douglass. He also has been the TEDx Memphis coach for seven years. He is a practitioner of Tai Chi/Chi Gong and teaches methods of self improvement through meditation. Darius Wallace Vroom Vroom Veer Stories Grew up in Flint Michigan in the early 80's and those streets were very mean Did martial arts as a very tall 13 year old boy; also joined a gang for protection Was kick boxing for money and probably being exploited by the gym; got caught with a weapon by the vice principle; choice was juvie, dad, or theater Did a play in high school and then got the lead as a freshman in the school play; his gang member friends let him out of the gang Took pills in a suicide attempt because his girlfriend didn't return his call; woke up alive but the world was sideways and he parents freaked out Fell into a deep grief after his mother pass away from cancer; ended up homeless in New York City on a Park Bench Had his suicide pills in his pocket, had his last meal for $5 at Burger King; still had subway tokens so got on the train; met a yogi who agreed to teach him yoga for free and just happen to save his life In 2011 after getting married and having children finally went into to rehab to quit drinking; he walk about 7 miles while having a very intimate conversation with his higher power (God) Connections Website Instagram @dariusactor

Producer Monica Levinson joins Jessica Kantor on Raising Cinephiles. We discuss the grit and tenacity it takes to work in the industry, seeing her Jewish culture in movies and how that shaped her taste, and how she shares her world with her nieces and nephews.  Monica Levinson is a prolific film and television producer with an expansive career of diverse projects. Working alongside top innovators in entertainment, she is frequently lauded for her passion to protect and further the creative aspects of filmmaking, with a strong commitment to fiscal responsibility.Her recent credits include: Borat Subsequent Moviefilm (for which she won the 2021 Golden Globe Award for Best Motion Picture - Musical or Comedy, and has been nominated by the Producers Guild for the PGA Awards' Darryl F. Zanuck Award for Outstanding Producer of Theatrical Motion Pictures), Tara Miele's Wander Darkly, David Oyelowo's The Water Man, Aaron Sorkin's The Trial Of The Chicago 7, and "Women In Film: Make it Work!" (CW's virtual benefit highlighting WIG's #HireHerBack initiative).Levinson served as President of Production of ShivHans Pictures from its inception in 2014 through 2019 and oversaw all aspects of film and television development, production, post-production, financing, and distribution turnover. There she produced a distinctive slate of projects including Trumbo, Captain Fantastic, Beirut, The Polka King, and Brian Banks.Before joining ShivHans, Levinson's credits include Borat, Bruno, Zoolander, Dodgeball, and Larry David's Clear History. Starting her career in broadcast news in her hometown of Washington, D.C., she made her transition into narrative storytelling working with visionary directors including Alan J. Pakula and Sidney Lumet.Levinson is an executive board member of AMPAS (Producers Branch), PGA, DGA, and on the leadership team for Women's Production Society. On films she produces, she started a training program for underrepresented groups, is a founding member of INDIE (representing independent films in various endeavors), mentors young filmmakers, and often guest lectures at universities.   New Episodes Every Wednesday!EPISODE CREDITS:Host, Producer, Editor: Jessica KantorBooker: Noelia MurphyBe sure to follow and tag Raising Cinephiles on Instagram

Welcome fellow adventurers! The discussion about words of the year for 2024, continues right here on the Masculine Journey After Hours Podcast. The clips are from "Brian Banks," "Kingdom Of Heaven," and the "No Surrender" speech by Winston Churchill.  There's no advertising or commercials, just men of God, talking and getting to the truth of the matter. The conversation and Journey continues. Be sure to check out our other podcasts, Masculine Journey and Masculine Journey Joyride for more great content!

The federal government has just announced about 2.5 billion dollars in funding for 11 remotely piloted drones. 8 of them will be stationed at CFB Greenwood in NS. Brian Banks, the Chair of the Village Commission in Greenwood discusses the effects of this announcement. We hear about clean-up efforts in NB after Monday's wind storm. And on the phone-in: Silvia Jay on dog behaviours.

PLEASE SUBSCRIBE, SHARE & LEAVE A RATING TO HELP US CONTINUE TO GROWBrian Banks is a former NFL whose life was altered forever when he was the victim of a false-r*pe allegation towards the end of his high school years.We spoke about how he found out that he was being accused of such a horrific crime, the process of being arrested & charged and the legal games that were at play before his trial.Brian told us about why he felt like he had to accept a plea bargain despite being completely innocent, the monotonous reality & dangers of prison life and how he remained sane in prison.Brian's story get even more bizarre post-prison when he was on parole and his false-accuser got in contact with him with the intention of striking up a friendship. Brian used this opportunity to gather video evidence that would later clear his name and get his football career back on track.***TIMESTAMPS*** 00:00 Growing up & FALSE R*PE ALLEGATION 17:35 Arrested 30:45 Plee bargin 35:55 Sentenced 40:50 PRISON LIFE 54:15 Getting out of prison 1:01:15 PROVING HIS INNOCENCE: Secretly recording his accusers confession 1:22:45 Getting into the NFL 1:24:25 Did Brian's false-accuser face any consequences & Brian's compensation for his incarceration  1:29:05 Post NFL life 

Justin Brooks will tell you that as the Founder of the California Innocence Project, he was just following his passion as a criminal justice attorney to exonerate those who were falsely accused and spending decades in prison. He may only have been in his twenties when he launched the California Innocence Project, but as of 2023, Justin has received exoneration for 40 such individuals and travels the world, helping launch Innocence Projects in other countries. It was also Justin who took a chance with Brian Banks and was instrumental in having Brian exonerated! If you think that heroes have gone the way of the dinosaur, you haven't met Justin Brooks!

If you were hoping to hear how Brian Banks overcame the adversity and punishment that was thrown at him in Part 1 of our interview, then here it is! You'll hear how Brian stayed ‘sane' despite his time behind the wall, his home life, that still felt like jail, while on parole, and the knowledge that he'd always live in a societal prison with a sex offender stamp on his record. That was until criminal defense lawyer and the Founding Director of the California Innocence Project, Justin Brooks, agreed to take Brian's case, despite the fact that he was already post parole, and you'll NEVER believe the role his accuser played in Brian's exoneration!

Here, in part 1 of a 2-part episode, is the heartfelt and triumphant journey of Brian Banks. If you don't know who Brian Banks is, he's worth a google. Not only did Brian defy the odds, transitioning from wrongful conviction and 5 years imprisonment to NFL dreams and beyond, his story is one of relentless determination, resilience, and the pursuit of a vision. In this first episode, Brian shares part of his story that has never been shared before, and while heart wrenching, Brian and his story are a source of grit and inspiration.

Episode 19 of the Rich At Heart podcast with Munchie B. and Mariah Hayes they discuss the following topics: Brian Banks falsely accused of rape and sent to prisonMichael Jordan's son, Marcus Jordan wants to marry Scottie Pippen's ex-wife, Larsa Pippen. Suacey Santana and DJ AkademicsDwight Howards was soliciting sex on the internet with another man. Snoopy BadAzz is having a meltdown, and now accusing Alex Alonso of falsifying documents that he has never even seen. And much more...Intro song: "Make it Out" by Munchie B featuring Rucci & Dizzy---Download Apple music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/make-it-out-feat-rucci-dizzy-single/1710051995---Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/23OsCv9nUtdiK7voq7O3le?si=b294810c9c004d8bFollow Our Instagrams: Rich at Heart: https://www.instagra.com/_richatheartpodcastMariah Hayes: https://www.instagra.com/_mariahhhh_ Munchie B: https://www.instagra.com/mb_themayorAlex Alonso: https://www.instagram.com/alexalonso101 Street TV https://www.instagram.com/street.teevee▶️ Mariah's Book: The Rose That Blossomed into Me: https://amzn.to/45ih8Xo Street TV Media

This week, LawNext veers slightly off-topic for a conversation about wrongful convictions. But, as you'll hear from our guests, there is a legal tech angle, even to this.  At the recent Clio Cloud Conference, LawNext host Bob Ambrogi had the opportunity to sit down for a live conversation with one of the keynote speakers, Brian Banks, whose aspirations for a career in the NFL were sidetracked when, at age 16, he was falsely accused of sexual assault, resulting in his accepting a plea bargain that put him in prison for five years. It was an experience that has made Banks a powerful advocate for criminal justice reform.  Joining Banks for that conversation was Michael Semanchik, the lawyer who helped clear Banks' name while working as managing attorney of the California Innocence Project. Recently, Semanchik launched a new project, The Innocence Center, where he is executive director. He also hosts one of the best new podcasts of 2023, the soon-to-be-renamed California Innocence Center Podcast.  For Banks, there was a happy ending to the story, in that he did clear his name and he even got to play in the NFL. But wrongful convictions continue to plague the criminal justice system. Today we'll hear Banks' story and explore what the system can do to keep other innocent people out of prison.    Thank You To Our Sponsors This episode of LawNext is generously made possible by our sponsors. We appreciate their support and hope you will check them out. Paradigm, home to the practice management platforms PracticePanther, Bill4Time, MerusCase and LollyLaw; the e-payments platform Headnote; and the legal accounting software TrustBooks. Universal Migrator, the easiest way to move your firm's data and documents from one app to another. DocReviewPad: Review, organize, issue code, and bates stamp documents; then create production sets with detailed reports   If you enjoy listening to LawNext, please leave us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.  

After a long fight for freedom following his wrongful conviction at just 16, exoneree Brian Banks focuses his efforts toward raising awareness and inspiring others. Host Michael Semanchik talks with Brian about his keynote speech at ClioCon 2023. Brian shares his story and offers insights on how resilience and perseverance can help us through difficult times.  Brian Banks is a former football player turned keynote speaker, life coach, and passionate advocate for criminal justice reform.

After a long fight for freedom following his wrongful conviction at just 16, exoneree Brian Banks focuses his efforts toward raising awareness and inspiring others. Host Michael Semanchik talks with Brian about his keynote speech at ClioCon 2023. Brian shares his story and offers insights on how resilience and perseverance can help us through difficult times.  Brian Banks is a former football player turned keynote speaker, life coach, and passionate advocate for criminal justice reform.

Brian Banks on how he overcame a devastating wrongful conviction and prison sentence to thrive and inspire, the importance of controlling emotions, the power of choice and how he keeps a positive outlook after everything he's endured. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How does the Ravens D Line look? Will Lamar run less? and Does the preseason win streak matter to Ravens fans with Brian Banks from Barstool

Hour 2 - 00:00 - Ravens Preview With Brian Banks 17:37 - Sam Cosmi Doesn't Give A S**t About The Ravens Preseason Streak 29:03 - BMitch's Secret Band

Dear Pennies and Pallers, This week we are joined by our friend Carl Tart! In letter one, Adam asks us about memorable weddings we've attended - his favorite was at a renaissance fair. Letter two is from Brian, who recalls his high school soccer coach having them play an exhibition match at a prison. We also talk Bagger Vance, Brian Banks, and have a surprise appearance from a giant bag of Reese's Pieces. We wish you well, sincerely, Your Pen Pals Daniel Van Kirk and Rory Scovel PS - our live virtual recording of Pen Pals is tomorrow! Tickets at https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-pen-pals-podcast-live-recording-tickets-653725148517See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Brian Banks, the Composer, Producer and creative force behind Outta the Books, joins us from Italy to share stories of an amazing career in music and television.  Musical highlights include working with some of the foremost musical titans of the late 70s and early 80s (Giorgio Moroder, Quincy Jones), playing a role in the creation of Michael Jackson's "Thriller" and scoring some well know 80's movies such as Young Guns and Internal Affairs.  Television highlights include composing music for advertisements of some of the most identifiable brands (Apple, IBM, Bratz, Barbie).  He shares his latest musical project consisting of songs that tell the original stories of some of the most well-known Fairy Tales with a theatrical flair.  He shares 4 songs from the album "StorySongs Book 1", featuring:1 - If the Shoe Fits Wear It2 - You Won't Believe Your Eyes3 - Let Your Hair Down4 - You Can't Judge a Book by it's CoverFind the Album at:Spotifyhttps://open.spotify.com/album/3DaCStXSwORrYniGpVWBfJ?si=kNVSe7ucRbKv_9wp7RhGlwThe featured songs have been added to the KINDIE ROCK STARS Season 4 Spotify playlist.  Add the KINDIE ROCK STARS Season 4 Playlist on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/playlist/46ZrCHC7ZKFsgembcjLreS?si=0c9836d85a654a28YouTube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/@outtathebooks9902

Professor Justin Brooks founded the California Innocence Project in 1999 and under his direction, the project has exonerated dozen of innocent people, trained hundreds of law students, and changed multiple laws in California related to wrongful convictions. He has also worked extensively in Latin America and is the Founder and Director of Cal Western's Latin American Institute of Law and Justice which is dedicated to training lawyers in Latin America and improving justice systems. Professor Brooks has published extensively on criminal justice issues and is the author of the only legal case book dedicated to the topic of wrongful convictions. Academy Award nominated actor Greg Kinnear portrays Professor Brooks in the movie Brian Banks. Professor Brooks is also the author of a recently released book You Might Go to Prison and talks about the genesis of the book in this episode.Connect with Justin Brooks on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedInLearn more about the California Innocence Project here. Purchase Justin Brooks' book You Might Go to Prison, Even Though You're Innocent here. Special thanks to this episode's sponsor, E&E Financial Services. Founded by industry veteran Eric Sams, E&E prioritizes educating and empowering clients to make informed financial decisions they can truly understand and feel confident in. E&E believes in guiding you through your financial goals while providing unbiased independent advice.Visit them online at eandefinancial.com/ or call (619) 487-9638 for more information.This announcement is intended for informational and educational purposes only. It does not constitute financial advice. All sponsorship proceeds benefit the Eric C. Mitchell scholarship fund at Albert Einstein Academies, which benefits graduates who exemplify the outstanding human qualities that define Mr. Mitchell's legacy.

Join Gene Dockery from SAIGE, ACA's Brian Banks and Dr. Aprille Woodson as they discuss advocacy, transgender equality, the counselor's role, and the support of allies for transgender rights.   For additional SAIGE resources go the SAIGE website at https://saigecounseling.org/public-policy-committee/ and access additional resources at https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17mCVWH4WVAiC2gkTc8PiuRcZuaeEL0NB?usp=sharing.

Attorney Justin Brooks is known for the extensive legal work he has done over many years to overturn wrongful criminal convictions. He has dedicated his career to this cause and currently serves as the Director and Co-Founder of the California Innocence Project. He has practiced in the area of criminal defense in many states, including Michigan and Illinois. He has also taught courses at Georgetown Law Center and Thomas M. Cooley Law School and is presently a tenured professor at California Western School of Law. Justin Brooks is also the author of the only legal case book focused on the topic of wrongful convictions.Justin has received a number of accolades throughout his career, including the designation as one of the Top 100 Lawyers in California by the Los Angeles Daily Journal, as well as receiving recognition as “Lawyer of the Year” in 2010 and 2012 by California Lawyer Magazine. He has also worked in Latin America to train lawyers for the past twenty years. As a co-founder of Red Inocente, an organization that is devoted to founding and supporting various innocence organizations in Latin America, he continues to devote his career to the cause of overturning wrongful criminal convictions.The Exoneration of Brian BanksJustin Brooks and The California Innocence Project worked tirelessly to overturn the wrongful conviction of Brian Banks, who was charged with rape and kidnapping after a consensual sexual encounter. At the time, Brian Banks was only seventeen years old and was widely considered to have a bright future playing football in the NFL. The false rape accusation drastically changed the course of his life, as he was faced with the difficult decision of choosing whether to proceed to trial and risk forty-one years to life in prison if found guilty or to accept a plea deal for just over five years in prison. Brian chose to accept the plea deal, which also came with the cost of destroying his dream of playing football and requiring him to register as a sex offender.Together with The California Innocence Project, attorney Justin Brooks presented evidence of Brian Banks' innocence of these crimes. Evidence in his favor included the alleged victim stating that she fabricated the story. After another review of the evidence, the District Attorney's Office agreed that Banks was wrongfully convicted; and in May of 2012, a judge of the Los Angeles Superior Court reversed his conviction.Banks' story has a particularly happy ending. After his exoneration, Justin Brooks spoke out to the press on behalf of his client and asked NFL teams to give Brian a chance at playing football. Shortly after, Brian received calls from six different NFL teams expressing interest.Ultimately, Brian Banks played for the Cincinnati Bengals during one NFL season. Though his time playing in the NFL was brief; following the 2013 football season, Brian accepted a position working for the NFL's Department of Operations in the replay center. In this position, he also helped contribute to the league's social media.Brian's story garnered such public interest that his story was made into a film which premiered at the Los Angeles Film Festival in September of 2018. The movie features Academy Award-nominated actor Greg Kinnear playing the role of Professor Justin Brooks, and will premiere in the US in August 2019. Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/unimpressedpodcast. https://plus.acast.com/s/unimpressedpodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We still have much to cover in Season 1 with topics like False Accusations, False Confessions, Junk Science, and Plea Deals. In short order, we'll hear from exonerees like Brian Banks, Marty Tankleff, Luis Vargas, and Marilyn Mulero. Stay tuned for new episodes, going live in a couple of weeks. In the meantime, please enjoy this song ‘Love Lives at Our Doorstep' by our good friend and real-life exoneree William Michael Dillon.

Today's guest is Professor Justin Brooks, Criminal Justice Champion & California Innocence Project Co-Founder Prof. Justin Brooks, is a leading criminal defense attorney and co-founder of the California Innocence Project. Recognized as one of the Top 100 Lawyers in California and twice awarded "Lawyer of the Year" by California Lawyer Magazine, Brooks has dedicated his career to fighting for justice and exonerating the wrongfully convicted. Beginning his teaching journey at Georgetown Law Center, Brooks later taught criminal law, criminal procedure, and death penalty law at Western Michigan University. In 1999, he moved to California and established the California Innocence Project at California Western School of Law. Under his leadership, the project has freed dozens of innocent people, trained hundreds of law students, and sparked significant legal reform in California. Brooks' dedication to justice extends to Latin America, where he founded the Latin American Institute for Law and Justice and Red Inocente. These organizations focus on training law students and lawyers and supporting innocence projects across the region. A prolific writer, Brooks has published extensively on criminal justice issues and authored the only legal casebook on wrongful convictions. His impact is so profound that actor Greg Kinnear portrayed him in the movie Brian Banks. Justin Brooks, criminal defense attorney, California Innocence Project, Top 100 Lawyers, Lawyer of the Year, Georgetown Law Center, Western Michigan University, California Western School of Law, Latin American Institute for Law and Justice, Red Inocente, wrongful convictions, Greg Kinnear, Brian Banks. This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/MPM and get on your way to being your best self. YouTube link to this episode: Wanna say thanks for a great episode? Buy me a coffee! Get your official Moving Past Trauma Podcast gear here: https://www.collierlandry.com/store Join our Patreon: for exclusive content, member-only meet n' greets, support this podcast & more: https://www.collierlandry.com/support Shop & Support: You can support this program by using our Amazon Affiliate link: https://www.collierlandry.com/amazon Subscribe to my YouTube Channel http://www.youtube.com/collierlandry I go live on Instagram TUESDAY'S 11 am PT/2 pm ET on @collierlandry -Official Socials- TikTok: @collierlandry Instagram: @collierlandry Twitter: @collierlandry Facebook: /collierlandry Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In 2002, Brian Banks was a 17-year-old high school football star with a promising future ahead of him. He was getting the attention of Division 1 teams at major universities and was on the brink of making his dreams come true. Unfortunately, his life took a tragic turn when he was knowingly and falsely accused of kidnapping and rape of a female classmate. Despite maintaining his innocence, the combination of poor legal counsel, lack of investigative work, and a broken justice system resulted in Banks spending over five years in prison for a crime he did not commit. In this episode, Brian recounts the shocking experience of being falsely accused, losing his athletic prospects, and an ill-advised plea deal that hurt him way more than it helped.

Welcome to the final episode of our three-part series on the remarkable story of Brian Banks, a former NFL football player who was wrongfully convicted of a crime he did not commit. In this episode, we will delve deeper into the challenges that Brian faced after his release from prison; including the numerous restrictions and legal obstacles that he had to navigate during his probation, the social stigma and fear that comes with living as a registered sex offender, and the struggle for him to rebuild his life. In addition, we will discuss a pivotal moment in Brian's journey when someone unexpected from his past reappears, offering him the chance he needs to clear his name, regain his freedom, and help pave his way to the NFL.

Check out the video of this interview here! An eye-opening look into our broken justice system, one where innocence may not protect you from incarceration — or even the death penalty. Today's guest is Justin Brooks, the Director and Co-Founder of the California Innocence Project, an organization that has secured the release of dozens of innocent people who otherwise may have spent the rest of their lives wrongfully incarcerated. Justin was also portrayed by Academy Award nominated actor Greg Kinnear in the feature film, Brian Banks. Justin's new book, You Might Go to Prison, Even Though You're Innocent, is an inside examination of our “justice” system that just might change your life. Links mentioned in this episode: By clicking on the links here, we may earn some additional revenue that directly supports this podcast. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. Justin Brooks: Book Website California Innocence Project Hamburger Video Mentioned Today  ____________________________________ Toby Dorr: Patreon Books and Audiobook Website   YouTube Instagram Facebook Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.   Credits: Created by Toby Dorr. Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing. Theme song: Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist Caroline Parody: Piano Tony Ventura: Bass For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/  

We still have much to cover in Season 1 with topics like False Accusations, False Confessions, Junk Science, and Plea Deals. In short order, we'll hear from exonerees like Brian Banks, Marty Tankleff, Luis Vargas, and Marilyn Mulero. Stay tuned for new episodes, going live in a couple of weeks. In the meantime, please enjoy this song ‘Love Lives at Our Doorstep' by our good friend and real-life exoneree William Michael Dillon. - Podcast Supported by Clio

Despite best intentions, our criminal justice system is not perfect. Innocent people are frequently accused, convicted, and sent to prison for crimes they didn't commit. On this show, we explore how this happens by talking with real-life exonerees, famous attorneys who fight for freedom, and world-renowned experts. You'll recognize many of our guests from prominent productions like Making a Murderer, The Staircase, and the Survivors Guide to Prison. You'll hear from well-known exonerees like Amanda Knox and Brian Banks.  Hosted by Michael Semanchik. Produced and written by Laurence Colletti. Audio engineering by Adam Lockwood. Music contributions by real-life exoneree William Michael Dillon. - Podcast Supported by Clio

***TIMESTAMPS BELOW***For this episode I spoke to Justin Brooks, criminal defense lawyer, law professor, and the Founding Director of the California Innocence Project and recent author of “You Might Go to Prison, Even Though You're Innocent”. ( https://www.amazon.com/Might-Prison-Though-Youre-Innocent/dp/0520386833) The book and our interview focuses on Justin's work which is the exoneration of falsely-convicted prisoners for crimes up to and including murder.We spoke about the various ways in which false-convictions can come about due to dishonesty, incompetence and/or errors from police, prosecutors and judges. Justin shares stories from his most prolific and shocking cases including false- r!pe allegations and decades wrongly spent in jail.Justin told me about problems with cross-racial identification, how difficult it is to over-turn a conviction, the damaging effect that prison has on the falsely convicted and the role that race plays in American trials. 00:00 Intro01:40 HOW DO FALSE CONVICTIONS COME ABOUT??09:40 How Innocence Project chooses it's clients   12:30 Brian Banks case (Justin's most well known case, false r@pe case)15:30 Marty Tankleff case (False confession case) 19:10 Prisoners lying about being innocent ??21:00 Are most false convictions due to incompetence or dishonesty?22:01 RACE27:05 Should you NEVER speak to cops during interrogation ??29:35 Repercussions for police/prosecutors/judges who act dishonestly ??38:10 How difficult is to get an appeal going ?45:10 Success rate 46:30 Detrimental effect of prison on falsely convicted inmates ?52:10 Breaking the bad news to a prisoner you can't get freed55:25 DEATH PENALTY 59:35 How good is US justice system compared to others?ttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UChtciipyjckL-asTVYecsMQ https://www.tiktok.com/@thegoodlistenerpodcast?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pchttps://linktr.ee/TheGoodListenerPodcasthttps://www.instagram.com/thegoodlistenerpodcasthttps://open.spotify.com/show/6841FNScEdMyfJhgEUHDfD?si=rZ8nT3-oT9Os1p_EbpU99whttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-good-listener-podcast/id1580379332

Justin Brooks is the director of the California Innocence Project (CIP) based at the California Western School of Law in San Diego. He is also the author of the new book "You Might Go to Prison, Even THough You're Innocent." Justin and his team of pro bono lawyers and law students work to free prisoners who have been wrongfully convicted. To date, their work has resulted in more than 30 people being freed including high profile cases like Guy Miles and Brian Banks, the USC-bound high school football star who was wrongfully convicted of rape and served five years in prison before being exonerated when the alleged victim confessed to fabricating the story.During this podcast, Justin explains why and how an innocent person can end up in prison, how he determines if a person has been wrongfully convicted, and he takes us inside some of the high profile cases.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Join us for a special episode celebrating the bill that just passed allowing Licensed Professional Counselors to work with clients with Medicare insurance! Our guest Brian Banks, the Chief of Government Affairs and Public Policy Officer for the ACA, gives us the rundown Mental Health Access Improvement Act, and what's next for counselors and their clients.   For more information about Medicare, please check out this resource from the ACA.   For more advocacy information, please visit our website at www.counseling.org/government-affairs.  

My guest this week is Justin Brooks, director and co-founder of the California Innocence Project. The Innocence Project provides free legal services to the wrongfully convicted. It was founded in 1999 at the California Western School of Law here in San Diego, and it has freed many people from prison, as well as trained hundreds of law students. Brooks is the author of the upcoming book "You Might Go To Prison, Even If You're innocent," which comes out in April 2023 and is available for pre-order now. One of his cases is also portrayed in the feature-length film "Brian Banks," about a high school football star whose NFL dreams are dashed by a false conviction. In this interview, Justin shares the origins of the Innocence Project, we talk about problems with the system, about his new book and more. Here's our conversation. 

Brian Banks, Chief of Government Affairs and Public Policy Officer, and Dania Lofton, Esq., MPA Government Affairs Specialist, from the American Counseling Association's Government Affairs and Public Policy team join us to give an update about Medicare reimbursement for licensed professional counselors and how you can join in on the advocacy to make Medicare paneling for LPC's a reality.

Growing up around the film business,  Amy Baer always loved movies and reading.  Unsure of what she wanted to do professionally, Amy was certain of one thing.  Whatever she chose to do post-college, it had to be something that she really cared about and that excited her as opposed to what she thought she should or shouldn't be doing.  Following her instincts and staying authentic to herself, Amy has navigated a successful, joyful and creative career.  Amy currently serves as President of Landline Pictures, a label within MRC Film (KNIVES OUT) that makes feature films about and for a 50+ audience. Launched in 2020, its first movie, JERRY & MARGE GO LARGE,  starring Bryan Cranston and Annette Bening, was released by Paramount+ on 6/17/22. Prior to Landline, Amy raised a 7-figure development fund in 2012 and launched Gidden Media, one of the industry's only female-led, independently financed content incubation companies. Her first film as a producer was the 2013 hit LAST VEGAS (starring Michael Douglas, Robert DeNiro, Morgan Freeman and Kevin Kline) which grossed $136MM worldwide. She also produced the 2017 romantic drama MARY SHELLEY and the 2019 inspirational true story BRIAN BANKS.  Prior to that, Amy  served as President & CEO of CBS Films (2007-2011), and spent the previous 17 years at Sony Pictures Entertainment, where she oversaw such hit films as MY BEST FRIEND'S WEDDING (1997), the Oscar-nominated ADAPTATION (2001), S.W.A.T. (2002), SOMETHING'S GOTTA GIVE (2003), and the 2006 holiday hit, THE HOLIDAY. Amy also developed the 2011 Oscar-nominated Sony hit MONEYBALL, starring Brad Pitt. She began her career at Creative Artists Agency in 1988 as an assistant to the late Jay Moloney. Amy  has served as Board President of Women in Film since June 2018. What You Will Hear in This Episode:  Amy's personal story Trusting your instinct Becoming a book reader at CAA Learning to be a studio executive Developing a script My Best Friend's Wedding Balancing executive life and motherhood Starting a new studio Taking time off and rediscovering her why The differences between being a buyer vs a seller  Gen X and making movies for an older audience Being authentic and staying grounded Quotes “I've always been able to access theme and emotion as a way of advocating material.” “The only way to understand good writing is to read good writing and, and to do that, you have to constantly be reading.” “I was extremely lucky that I was surrounded by senior women who had children and were empathetic to the balance.” “I had to deal with the notion that even though I didn't want that job, I was never really in consideration for it because I was having kids and I had to reconcile that reality.” “Launching my own business was the first time in my career that I felt like a grownup because the agenda was mine.” “Gen X are aging in a way that's very much more dynamic than earlier generations.” “A lot of times when you launch a new venture, part of your success early in your lifecycle is luck, literally. “ “If I was someone that always took an opportunity to make a buck, I would probably have a lot more money, but I may not be as happy or as content.” Mentioned: Landline Pictures MRC https://bonniemarcusleadership.com/ https://web.facebook.com/bonnie.marcus/  https://www.linkedin.com/in/bonniemarcus https://twitter.com/selfpromote https://www.instagram.com/self_promote_/ Gendered Ageism Survey Results Forbes article 5 Tips to own the superpower of your age IAMMusicGroup Purchase my book Not Done Yet on Amazon:  If you enjoyed this episode of Badass Women Podcast, then make sure to subscribe to the podcast and drop us a five-star review.

Happy 4th of July, Kwame Kilpatrick's fundraising, 6 dead in mass shooting in Illinois, protest at Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest, Airmageddon 2022, Alec Baldwin v. "Mike", Drew Crime features bad acting on a 911 call, Marc's off the grid weekend, and we interrupt swimming Maz.Happy Independence Day! In your face, England. Enjoy these USA themed songs.Kaitlin Armstrong got plastic surgery while on the lam in Costa Rica. SIST: does her new nose look better or worse? You decide!Marc went without the internet for 30 hours.48 Hours covered the murder of Quee Choo Chadwick and her jerk husband, Peter Chadwick.Detroit Tigers: Stephen Gabbara assaulted the buffet. Trudi and Dee assaulted the bar. Riley Greene's first career homer was a walk off. The Tigers broadcaster-less game sucked.Tom Mazawey is NOT included in the Woodward Sports 4th of July photo. SNUBBED.Kamala Harris compares the Roe v. Wade ruling to slavery.Airmageddon 2022. Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg has it under control by believing whatever the airlines tell him.Ann Marie LaFlamme is amazing, looks amazing, and you listeners out there need to be more respectful.Jim Kiertzner is retiring after 49 years in TV news.This dog was the star in Ryan Ermanni's Fox 2 interview.A very attractive woman was shamed while breastfeeding in a restaurant without a cover. To repeat- a very attractive woman was shamed.Crosby, Stills and Nash are back on Spotify after asking to be removed because of Joe Rogan. David Crosby says it's because the people that he sold his music to only care about money.George Shea is the Michael Buffer of hot dog eating contests. Joey Chestnut was attacked but still managed to win again.Tom Mazawey joins us to explain being SNUBBED, recap Joey Chestnut's victory, explain USC & UCLA to the Big Ten, discuss the Miles Bridges felony arrest, dress down Chris Ilitch and lament the former Tigers that are better than the current Tigers.Grab your EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal by going to nordvpn.com/dams or use the code dams to get a HUGE Discount off your NordVPN Plan + 1 additional month for free + a bonus gift! It's completely risk free with Nord's 30-day money-back guarantee!Love: Taylor Swift is engaged. Lindsay Lohan is married. Brian Austin Green has a new brat with his new girlfriend. Britney Spears remains married and continues to pop off on social media.Yet another mass shooting in America. This time it's in Highland Park, Illinois during the 4th of July parade.Akron is in chaos following the police shooting of Jayland Walker. LeBron is praying for "his city"."The Week That Was" covers America's Guest, Kwame Kilpatrick, and Michael Bullotta is the only person who is talking truth.Read ML Elrick tear into Brian Banks.A 40-year-old man dies at the Battle Creek air show when his truck blows up while performing a stunt.Michigan schools are given grants to change their school mascots. Needless to say, the comment sections doesn't stay on topic.Music: Bret Michaels hospitalized. Tommy Lee is back to doing full shows. Adele has no regrets. Halsey lectures her fans about abortion. Elliot Page's transition had to be updated in The Umbrella Academy.Hammerin' Hank Goldberg has died... ON HIS BIRTHDAY!Ilhan Omar was booed off stage in her own district.Alec Baldwin is mad at Mike and vows to find Mike.Social media is dumb, but we're on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter (Drew and Mike Show, Marc Fellhauer, Trudi Daniels and BranDon).

In this episode about culture, we discuss Me Too Movement, Brian Banks, False Accusations & how detrimental they can be to society. This conversation is multi-faceted. *****LISTENER DISCRETION is advised as the topic of sexual abuse is covered in this episode. ***** In light of the Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard trial the topic of false accusations and there impact of society since the inception of the Me Too era is at the forefront of the conversation in the aftermath of the trial. The last time I broached this subject I mentioned Brian Banks and his story. I think what happened to him would provide further context to the conversation & allow for a deeper level of understanding. Or at least that is what I hope to accomplish in this fresh episode of the Karat Juice Podcast. Source courtesy of distractify.com. Podcast Transcript is available at karatjuicepodcast.com. Connect with us on social media: Alternate Platforms:

Guest host Christine Devine takes over for Hal Eisner. Rob Scheer, the Founder of Comfort Cases joins Christine to discuss how he came up with the idea for the program. Then, Brian Banks joins to talk about the ten years since he was exonerated after having been convicted of a crime he didn't commit.

Coach C. Collins is back at it to help give his experience of coaching methods and tactics that can hopefully help you to grow in the game of basketball along with tips for your AAU brand.  Todays topic is maybe controversial but its something athletes form high school to eventually the pros have to deal with, that being, women showing predatory behavior towards taking advantage of these men for some sort of status, financial or lifestyle gains. There is a common theme in our western society today that men of status are allowed to be preyed upon and they just need to protect themselves. Well what, if any, should the consequences be for women caught in the act. This topic is discussed along with the story of Brian Banks a high level high school athlete who was falsely accused of rape and lost 10 years of his life. This will be a topic many might not like my opinion on but these things need to be discussed. --------------------------- Please Support the Show Podbean Patron: https://patron.podbean.com/boutthatlifeaau Patreon Account: https://www.patreon.com/join/Boutthatlife? Cash App: https://cash.app/$phenixfitness23 PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=XKVLCD8U3MC36 Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/CoachCCollins   Now This Segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN6XRgPUbIk&t=119s   Sponsors Fowled Out Podcast https://open.spotify.com/show/1s6q9KHR0V0mwdFiH473n4?si=580d545a1ba64a07   Dr. Dish the best shooting machines on the market https://www.drdishbasketball.com/   Hardwood Palace Rec/Tournament Basketball facility http://www.hardwoodpalace.com/   Hidden Treasure cannabis delivery now delivering to: Yuba, Oroville, Chico, Gridley, Rocklin, Roseville  & El Dorado Hills   IG: deliveryhiddentreasure    Order  https://weedmaps.com/deliveries/hidden-treasure   Or  https://www.leafly.com/dispensary-info/hidden-treasure   916. 995.0550   *Friends & Family discount: COLLINS    & they will get a discount!    Click Here to follow  IG: https://www.instagram.com/hoopstariam/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/christopher.collins.106 Twitter: https://mobile.twitter.com/Christo53408073 Feel free to check out other episodes on our Main show "Bout that Life" Training Site: https://www.phenixfitness23.com/contact-us AAU Club Information: http://www.ybadawgs.com/ Thank you for your support and time and as Rize to Prime!!!   Main Show Bout that Life podcast: https://www.youtube.com/c/BOUTTHATLIFEPODCAST   Want to have a topic discussed feel free to leave a question here https://www.instagram.com/direct/inbox/    

Orlando Briggs, Orlando who is originally from Memphis, Tennessee currently lives in San Antonio, Texas. For the past four years he has been acting for both film and stage. His acting credits include the films Brian Banks and Christmas at Graceland. And two stage plays. The Ties That Bind and Dysfunctional Love. Join us this episode as we learn how Orlando got his start in acting and the life lessons he's learned along the way. Guest Contact Info:IG: @orlandobriggstheactorLIFE GOT IN THE WAYIG: @lgitw_podcast | FB: @lgitwpodcastWebsite: www.nikitacanderson.com/podcast

Greg Kinnear actually bailed on being an actor. Even though he performed in high school plays and hosted his own radio show as a teenager, when he started acting in college he decided it wasn't for him. As Greg tells Marc, it felt like too much of a crap shoot. So he tried broadcast journalism instead, eventually hosting Talk Soup on the fledgling E! channel and Later on NBC. Greg explains how these gigs led him back to acting, and they discuss some of his best roles in As Good As It Gets, Auto Focus, Little Miss Sunshine, and his new movie Brian Banks. This episode is sponsored by Anchor (anchor.fm/maron), Good Boys from Universal Pictures, Capterra (capterra.com/WTF), and Google Fi. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Sign up here for WTF+ to get the full show archives and weekly bonus material! https://plus.acast.com/s/wtf-with-marc-maron-podcast.