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Barry Jay and Dylan Flashner are the director and star of Like Father, Like Son, a bold new film about morality and whether the urge to kill is genetic. It also stars Ariel Winter, Dermot Mulroney, Mayim Bialik and Vivica A. Fox and is available on digital and on Demand as of January 31st. Christian White is a multidisciplinary Haida artist and storyteller whose career has spanned 50 years. Working with a variety of materials including argellite and wood, White has thousands of pieces from the large to the small, in addition to teaching about the history and culture of the Haida peoples. A Retrospective on his career is opening at the Bill Reid Gallery in Vancouver on February 1st and runs for a full year. Subscribe: Apple, Spotify, RadioPublic, Pocket Cast Socials @EndeavoursRadio follow me on substack @ wordimperfect.substack.com

WELCOME TO THE DELULU DIARIES BOOK CLUB! Each month, we will be releasing a dedicated episode to our book club read for that month, and to kick things off, we're starting with The Ledge by Christian White. When human remains are discovered in a forest, police are baffled, the locals are shocked and one group of old friends starts to panic. Their long-held secret is about to be uncovered. It all began in 1999 when sixteen-year-old Aaron ran away from home, drawing his friends into an unforeseeable chain of events that no one escaped from unscathed. In The Ledge, past and present run breathlessly parallel, leading to a climax that will change everything you thought you knew. This is a mind-bending new novel from the master of the unexpected.   Join the Delulu Diaries book club on Fable and be part of the conversation: https://fable.co/club/delulu-diaries-book-club-with-caitlin-slater-173952701938   Follow us on socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedeluludiariespod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thedeluludiariespod Danika's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danikarbrown Caitlin's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caitlinsltr   Watch the episode in full on YouTube: https://youtu.be/UqhxjHXUKnY

Happy New Year, girlie pops! We're diving deep into everything we've been watching and reading and what we're hyped for in 2025. First up, we're venturing into the world of body horror with The Substance (Amazon Prime), starring Demi Moore as a fading celebrity who takes drastic measures to reclaim her youth with some seriously freaky side effects. We also check back in with Seong Gi-hun in Squid Game Season 2 (Netflix). This season promises to be even more politically charged, with creator Hwang Dong-hyuk exploring the conflicts arising from the choices we make. Plus, we're spilling the tea on the K-pop connections! Then, we're blasting off into space with Alien: Romulus (Disney+), a thrilling addition to the Alien franchise. We rave about the acting, especially David Jonsson as the AI Andy, whose transformation is seriously mind-blowing. On the book front, we've got a mixed bag of reads. We start with the heartwarming yet grumpy charm of A Man Called Ove by Fredrik Backman, followed by the mind-bending premise of The Husbands by Holly Gramazio, where changing a lightbulb changes your entire life (and husband!). We also discuss Talking at Night by Claire Daverley, a poignant love story spanning years and marked by tragedy. Our January book club pick, The Ledge by Christian White, gets some love, as does Evenings and Weekends by Oisin McKenna, a literary fiction gem reminiscent of Love Actually, exploring the lives of interconnected friends during a London heatwave. We also dive into more of Fredrik Backman's work with The Answer Is No, a short and sweet read about a man who hates decisions, and She's Always Hungry by Eliza Clark, a collection of short stories exploring human hunger and desire (which, sadly, didn't quite hit the mark for us). Finally, we celebrate the brilliance of Greta & Valdin by Rebecca K Reilly, a witty and chaotic story about siblings navigating adulthood and love.   Get your hands on Delulu merch: https://thedeluludiariespod.theprintbar.com/   Follow us on socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedeluludiariespod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thedeluludiariespod Danika's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danikarbrown Caitlin's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caitlinsltr   Watch the episode in full on YouTube: https://youtu.be/UqhxjHXUKnY

Christian White talks to Cheryl about how personal experiences, especially fatherhood and aging, influence his writing, the differences between crafting novels and screenplays, and the importance of trusting readers to engage actively with his stories. His latest novel, The Ledge, is out now. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Chris and Taylor are doing a double potential pick review covering Apartment 7A / Rosemary's Baby. In the 2024 psychological horror film, Apartment 7A, directed by Natalie Erika James from a screenplay she co-wrote with Christian White and Skylar James. It serves as a prequel to Rosemary's Baby (1968). Julia Garner, Dianne Wiest, Jim Sturgess, and Kevin McNally star. In the 1968 psychological horror film, Rosemary's Baby, written and directed by Roman Polanski, based on Ira Levin's 1967 novel. The film stars Mia Farrow as a newlywed living in Manhattan who becomes pregnant, but soon begins to suspect that her neighbors are members of a Satanic cult who are grooming her in order to use her baby for their rituals. The film's supporting cast includes John Cassavetes, Ruth Gordon, Sidney Blackmer, Maurice Evans, Ralph Bellamy, Patsy Kelly, Angela Dorian, and Charles Grodin in his feature film debut. Follow us on: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thepotential_podcast/ X: https://x.com/thepotentialpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thepotentialpodcast Support us on Patreon: patreon.com/thepotentialpodcast Thanks to our sponsor: LetsGetChecked:  Get 25% off your health test at trylgc.com/potential and enter promo code POTENTIAL25

Meet bestselling author and screenwriter Christian White on his novel The Ledge and writing the Netflix hit Clickbait. his writing process, and his transition from books to screenwriting, including his work on TV shows like Clickbait and Apartment 7A. 00:00 Welcome to episode 63501:46 Nat Newman's writing tip02:41 Nat's creative writing journey04:34 The importance of elevator pitches09:07 Win: Cherrywood by Jock Serong11:20 Word of the week: Panoply14:01 Interview with Christian White, author of The Ledge31:43 The journey to Clickbait33:15 Balancing success and stress35:16 Appreciating the moment36:11 From Clickbait to Apartment 7A41:36 The collaborative process45:43 Balancing writing and family life55:30 Tips for aspiring writers01:01:29 Conclusion Read the show notes Connect with Valerie and listeners in the podcast community on Facebook Visit WritersCentre.com.au | ValerieKhoo.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nat has discovered a new witchy hobby; author Christian White chats about his new book The Ledge; Chris KP discusses the Ig Nobel Prize 2024 for Weird Science; filmmaker Genevieve Bailey talks about her documentary Always Listening, a behind-the-scenes look at the vital work of Lifeline, and the team discuss various fashion faux pas'! With presenters Monique Sebire, Daniel Burt & Nat Harris.Website: https://www.rrr.org.au/explore/programs/breakfasters/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Breakfasters3RRRFM/Twitter: https://twitter.com/breakfasters

Musician and writer Nardi Simpson is a Yuwaalaraay woman from freshwater country in north-west New South Wales. Her debut novel was 2020's critically acclaimed and multi-award-winning Song of the Crocodile. Now she is back with her second novel, which explores creation, belonging, and the precious fragility of a life. This week, Michael sits down with Nardi for a wide ranging conversation about her new book, The Belburd.Reading list:Song of the Crocodile, Nardi Simpson, 2024The Belburd, Nardi Simpson, 2024Midnight and Blue, Ian Rankin, 2024The Ledge, Christian White, 2024You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store. Socials: Stay in touch with Read This on Instagram and TwitterGuest: Nardi SimpsonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Musician and writer Nardi Simpson is a Yuwaalaraay woman from freshwater country in north-west New South Wales. Her debut novel was 2020's critically acclaimed and multi-award-winning Song of the Crocodile. Now she is back with her second novel, which explores creation, belonging, and the precious fragility of a life. This week, Michael sits down with Nardi for a wide ranging conversation about her new book, The Belburd. Reading list: Song of the Crocodile, Nardi Simpson, 2024 The Belburd, Nardi Simpson, 2024 Midnight and Blue, Ian Rankin, 2024 The Ledge, Christian White, 2024 You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.  Socials: Stay in touch with Read This on Instagram and Twitter Guest: Nardi Simpson

Dorian Price, Robert Winfree and Alexis Hejna review movies currently on streaming services and in theaters: Salems Lot/Mr Crocket/Apartment 7A 2024 Movie Review! First up is Salem's Lot (2024). Then we move on to Mr. Crocket (2024). Finally we review Apartment 7A (2024). 'Salem's Lot is a 2024 American supernatural horror film written and directed by Gary Dauberman, based on the 1975 novel by Stephen King. The film stars Lewis Pullman, Makenzie Leigh, Alfre Woodard, John Benjamin Hickey, Bill Camp, Jordan Preston Carter, Nicholas Crovetti, Spencer Treat Clark, William Sadler, and Pilou Asbæk. It is the first feature film adaptation of the book, preceded by miniseries versions from 1979 and 2004. The plot centers on a writer who returns to his hometown of Jerusalem's Lot in search of inspiration, only to discover the presence of a vampire. The film was announced in 2019 and shot in 2021, with additional photography in 2022. The film's release was delayed multiple times. 'Salem's Lot had its world premiere as the opening film at the Beyond Fest on September 25, 2024, and was released on Max on October 3, 2024. The film received mixed reviews from critics. Mr. Crocket, directed by Brandon Espy, is a horror film that debuted on Hulu on October 11, 2024, as part of its "Huluween" lineup. The movie, set in 1993, follows a mother's terrifying quest to rescue her son from a demonic children's show host, Mr. Crocket, who kidnaps children and brutally murders their parents. Originally developed from a short film created for Hulu's Bite Size Halloween series, the full-length feature was written by Espy and Carl Reid. It taps into 90s nostalgia with its VHS aesthetic and chilling supernatural elements. Apartment 7A is a 2024 American psychological thriller film directed by Natalie Erika James from a screenplay she co-wrote with Christian White and Skylar James. It serves as a prequel to Rosemary's Baby (1968). Julia Garner, Dianne Wiest, Jim Sturgess, and Kevin McNally star. Apartment 7A had its premiere at Fantastic Fest on September 20, 2024, before being released simultaneously on Paramount+ and on digital video on demand on September 27. Disclaimer: The following may contain offensive language, adult humor, and/or content that some viewers may find offensive – The views and opinions expressed by any one speaker does not explicitly or necessarily reflect or represent those of Mark Radulich or W2M Network. Mark Radulich and his wacky podcast on all the things: https://linktr.ee/markkind76 also https://www.teepublic.com/user/radulich-in-broadcasting-network FB Messenger: Mark Radulich LCSW Tiktok: @markradulich twitter: @MarkRadulich Instagram: markkind76 RIBN Album Playlist: https://suno.com/playlist/91d704c9-d1ea-45a0-9ffe-5069497bad59

  Contributors are listed here: Danielle S. Castillejo (Rueb), Cyon Edgerton, Rachael Reese, Chasity Malatesta, Debby Haase, Kim Frasier, Briana Cardenas, Holly Christy, Clare Menard, Marjorie Long, Cristi McCorkle, Terri Schumaker, Diana Frazier, Eliza Cortes Bast, Tracy Johnson, Sarah Van Gelder, Marwan, and more Welcome to the Arise Podcast, conversations on faith, race, justice, gender, and spirituality. You'll notice there's going to be some updated changes and different voices on the podcast this season. It's season five. It's October 1st, 2024. I haven't recorded a podcast since June of 2023, and at that time, if you've been following along in my town in Kitsap County, we were working through what would prove to be an extensive and prove to be an extensive fight for justice in our school district. And at this time, we have made some very significant shifts. I want to get into this episode to kind of catch you up on where I'm at, where the podcast is at, and hopefully as you listen to myself and some different voices on these upcoming podcasts, you understand that we have this fundamental common theme amongst us, which is our humanity. And when we drop down into that humanity, because our work, our lives, our families, there's all these poles and all these different ways for us to separate ourselves from our humanness and be busy or accomplish this or accomplish that.(00:01:52):And I know because I'm in there too, we actually separate ourselves from our neighbor. And so I'm hoping as we engage tough topics of politics and we get into the sticky points of it, that there's a sense that, yeah, I don't agree with that person or I agree with that person, but there is a sense that there is shared humanity. And so as we talk about these different subjects, I wanted to emphasize that first, an article was released in the fall last year saying in September of 2023 saying that there was, the school district's investigation had concluded and they had deemed that there was no racism in the North Kitsap School district. As you can imagine, a report like that on the front page of the paper, after all we'd been through after sitting through numerous hours of meetings listening to families and their experiences was disheartening.(00:02:45):We came to find out that some of the families felt or experienced what they deemed to be threatening tones from the investigators or understood that they could possibly be under penalty of perjury depending on what they answered. And I'm not saying that this was always the case, but the threat was on the table. And when you're dealing with working with majority world peoples who are marginalized in the United States, that threat can be very real. And the impact of it is very great. So I began to understand that this investigation wasn't actually looking for the truth and how to solve the problem. It was actually looking for a way of complete and utter defense against what these families had reported their students had experienced. It's a very different thing. And I think there were rumors like were these families going to sue the district, bring a lawsuit to the district?(00:03:41):And we've seen in neighboring school districts, just in recent times, lawsuits have been filed for much less. I mean, we had 90 original complaints. We have more people that had come forward as time had moved on. And yet there was never a move to actually file a lawsuit. We didn't file a lawsuit. We continued to move forward with our lives and think about our students. I think at some point in last fall of 2023, there was just a sense of deep despair like we put in years of effort. And the result was this report that basically attempted to delegitimize all the stories of all these families. It was horrible and heartbreaking and followed the fall. And in the late winter there was going to be a vote for this school bond. And as the yes for the bond campaign rolled out, led by a committee of yes folks, which included some Paul's Bowl rotary members and then the superintendent, it became clear to different community members that there were a lot of questions still to be asked, a lot of information we wanted to have and a lot of things that just felt like they were missing.(00:04:57):I'm not saying they were all missing, but there were pieces and details that appeared to be missing. And when we asked the questions similar to what happened with the complaints, we didn't get answers. The answers were couched in long paragraphs or explanations, and the architects seemed like they didn't have access to the buildings. Again, we didn't know all the details of what happened. And this is just a general recap. You can look at the ensuing political drama online. If you Google superintendent signs and polls Bowl, Washington, P-O-U-L-S-B-O Washington, you will find articles on NBC to Fox News to video clips, all of the above. There were signs all over our county, as I'm sure in your different counties or if you live in Kitsap, you've seen them political signs, vote yes on the bond, vote no on the bond, et cetera. And it appeared that signs were going missing.(00:06:02):And in one case, the signs were going missing often in one particular location and a pair of folks who are not married who became allied because they were both against the bond and had been putting up no on bond signs, decided to put up a wildlife cam and we're able to capture a person destroying the signs on video. And again, Google sbo, Google signs, Google Superintendent look for February 20, 24 articles and you'll see the ensuing reports of what happened. This became a chance for us actually to revisit our story because there's a theme of dishonesty from the top leadership. There was a theme of hiding. There's a theme of not giving all the information a theme of there's any extent we can go to that bumps up against the law. By the way, I think it's against the law to destroy political signs. So there's just this theme that you could break the law and get away with it.(00:07:08):We've seen in the top politics of our country down to the low level politics of our country. And what was our community going to do with all of this? We rallied together. For the first time in many years, there were literally hundreds of people on a zoom call for a school board meeting. News agencies showed up again, and sadly, our district was in the news for something else negative related to the top leadership. And it was very sad. The process. The superintendent was put on leave and resigned in June, but stopped working essentially closely with the school board. I think it was in March or April of 2024. I just remember that when the harm stops, when someone harmful is told by law enforcement or the law or someone else in a higher power to stop harming it, it's a relief. But also that's the time when all of the residual trauma sets in the trauma that you've been going through to be in proximity to someone in leadership and you're literally powerless to address it.(00:08:19):And I guess I bring this up to say that as we think about politics nationally, locally, whether it's a school board member or a president, I remember feeling challenged When I live in a small town, paulville was a small town. It is not like Seattle size. It's like got rural folks. There's folks that commute into the city of Seattle. We're, we're a mix of all different kinds of socioeconomic backgrounds. Our school district is now 38% Spanish speaking this year. There is a genuine mix. So when you're out and about in this small container, Kitsap's also very small too. It's rural, it's small. We're kind of contained on our own peninsula. When you're in this environment, the chances that you're going to see someone that you're know are really high, it's not like if you hate someone about, you're not going to run into Donald Trump here.(00:09:11):You're not going to run in here, run into Kamala Harris here. It's not like you're running into those folks, but you might run into your representative. You might run into the school board member from this district or another district. And how are you going to see that person that actually you not only disagree with, but you felt has been unjust to you? Costs a lot. I mean, money's one thing, but time, effort, family, reputation, allies, there is so much time involved and the way forward. You think it's clear when you're fighting on behalf of kids, you're advocating on behalf of kids. That feels really good. But the process to work through that advocacy often doesn't feel that great. You have to become allies with people you don't agree with. And so I think that just brings me back to where do we find our common humanity?(00:10:06):Where do we find space to occupy a same piece of land or a same meeting or a similar, we have similar causes, but maybe there's deep hurt between us and maybe that hurt is to the point where we're not going to ever talk to that person again, and how do we still see them as human? How do we still see them as valuable in this world? How do we still gain compassion? Those are things I ask myself and I don't have the answers. So I've included a number of folks asking a similar questions about humanness, about politics, about where they locate themselves in their various positions, their race, ethnicity, et cetera, and how do they come at this? And I hope you enjoy the following conversations because I conversations or talks from these people, commentary from these people as we hear all different perspectives. Now you may hear someone and be like, I can get down with that. I agree with that. And then there's another person you might be like, no way, no effing way. And so I encourage you to listen, stay curious with yourself and have talks with your family about how you're going to engage this political season.Speaker 2 (00:11:26):Danielle asked me how I see being human in the age of politics, and I'm struggling answering this because A, I am not a politician or have really any experience as a politician. I have experience as a community based organizer. So I am speaking on this on the outside of things. And then also I'm a white woman able bo, heterosexual woman. And the politics and the systems of power were built for me as a white person to thrive. And so I just want to locate myself in that because my view is of a privileged view. White folks can step in and out of politics without it really harming us. And that's a problem, obviously, and it distorts our view of politics.(00:12:55):But with this question, I have become more and more angry and upset with politics, policies, systems of power, the more that I unlearn and learn about my internal white supremacy culture and ways of being. And as the genocide in Palestine and other countries continue, I don't think the political structures are here for us. They're not people centered, they're not community centered. I think all politics are really about power. And so as an outsider, as not a politician and as a white woman, so those are flawed views. I'm coming from a flawed view. I see how politics change people or they make bad people even worse. I know local white folks that are in it for power and just continue on searching for more and more power. And I've witnessed community organizers join politics to really try to change the systems. But I don't think politics or the system was made to help humans. I don't think the system is for humans. And it hurts people, it divides people. I don't really know how to answer this question because I don't think politics and humanists can actually go together, not the way that they're set up now.Speaker 3 (00:15:09):These questions are so beautiful and just so right on time for this time, we're in right before an election where there's so much stress. My name is Sara Van Gelder and I am a friend of Danielle's and a resident of Kitsap County for many years have I was one of the founders of YES magazine. I also founded a group called People's Hub, which teaches community folks how to do local organizing, actually peer to peer teaching. I didn't do the teaching, but connected people together to teach each other and been associated as a ally of the Suquamish tribe at various times in my life, but I did not ever speak for them.(00:15:54):So my own humanity in the context of this political moment, I like to stay in a place of fierce love and do when I can. I can't say I'm always there. I'm often triggered. I often go into a place of feeling really fearful and anxious about what's going on in the world and more particularly the polarization and the rise of which what I don't like to call, but I think is actually a form of fascism. And when I talk about fierce, it means being willing to say the truth as I see it, but also love, which is that that is the motivator. I don't like seeing people get hurt and I'm willing to stand up and be one of the people to say what I see, but not in a way that is intended to degrade anybody. I am a mother, I'm a grandmother, I'm a daughter, I'm a sister. And being connected to people through love and that sense of willingness to protect one another, that's at the core. So even if I disagree with you, I'm not going to wish you harm.Speaker 1 (00:17:12):Wow. Wow. Even if I disagree with you, I'm not going to wish you harm. And I think what I've heard just particularly lately around the talk of immigration, let's say for an example, is the talk about immigration in the context of a particular city. For instance, they've used Springfield, Ohio over and over. It's come up many times and the demonization, the dehumanization of those immigrants, the miscategorizing of their status, it seems like some of this can get point hyper-focused on one particular example to make a political point or to drive fear home across different context, different communities. So when you think about that, do you wish those people harm that are making those accusations? How do you engage a tough subject like that?Speaker 3 (00:18:15):Yeah, it's a really hard one, and I could tell you what I aspire to do and what I actually do a lot of times is avoid people who have that level of disagreement with, because I'm not sure I have enough in common to even have a good conversation. So I don't feel like I'm as good at this as I'd like to be. But what I try to do is to first off, to recognize that when we're in the fight or flight sort of reptilian brain, when we're super triggered, we have the least capacity to do good work of any kind. So I try to get out of that mindset, and in part I do that by trying to listen, by trying to be an active listener and try to listen not just for the positions. The positions are ones that will likely trigger me, but to listen for what's beneath the positions, what is somebody yearning for?(00:19:10):What is it that they're really longing for beneath those positions that I find so harmful and so triggering. So in many cases, I think what people are looking for in this immigration debate is a sense of belonging. They want to believe that their community is a place where they belong and somehow believe that having other people who are from different cultures move in reduces the chances that they'll be able to belong. So what would it mean if they could feel like they belonged along with the Haitians in their community that it didn't have to be an either or is there a way to have that kind of conversation that what if we all belong(00:19:54):In that respect? The thing that I am sometimes most tempted to do, which is to cancel someone, if you will, that actually feeds into that dynamic of not belonging because I'm telling that person also, you don't belong in my life. You don't belong in my community. So it's not easy to do, but I do feel like we have a better chance of doing that locally than we have doing it nationally because locally we do have so many things we have in common. We all want to drink clean water, we want clean air. We want places our kids can go to school where they will belong and they will feel good. So if we can switch the conversation over to those deeper questions, and I think one thing I've learned from hanging out with indigenous folks is the way in which they think about the seven generations and how much more expansive of you that can give to you when you think that way.(00:20:54):Because instead of thinking about again, that immediate threat, that immediate personal sense of anxiety, you start thinking, well, what's going to work for my kids and my grandkids? I don't want them to be experiencing this. Well, that means something about having to learn how to get along with other people, and we want our kids to get along with each other. We want them to have friends and family, and when they marry into a different culture, we want to feel good about our in-laws. I mean, we want our neighborhood to be a place where our kids can run around and play outside. I mean, there's so many things that once you start expanding the scope to other generations, it makes it so clear that we don't want that kind of society that's full of hate and anxiety.Speaker 1 (00:21:44):Wow, seven generations. It is true. I do a lot of reading and I think about res, are you familiar with Resa and my grandmother's hands? And he talks about that the shifts we want to make in society, the shifts towards being more in our actual physical bodies and present with one another and the reps that it takes, the way we're disrupting it now to make a dent in the 400 plus year history of slavery and the act of embodying ourselves from the harm that has been done is going to take five to seven generations. It's not that he's not for change now. He absolutely is. And just having that long term, almost like marathon view perspective on what change has either for ourselves that can give ourselves grace and that we can also give others in our proximity grace, while also not engaging in active harm. I think there's an important part there. Does that make sense?Speaker 3 (00:22:51):Oh, it makes so much sense. And it's like that long-term view doesn't suggest we can put off working. It only even happens in the long term if we start today, we take the first steps today. So yes, absolutely makes sense. I'm not sure I'm patient enough to wait for all those generations, but I want to be keeping them in my mind and heart when I act. How is this going to contribute to their possibilities? So part of that is by thinking about these questions of belonging, but it's also questions of exclusion more structurally. I think the fact that our society has such deep exclusion economically of so many people, there's so many people across the board who feel so precarious in their lives. I think that sets us up for that kind of scapegoating because ideally what we'd be saying is, if you can't afford to go to college, if you can't afford a medical bill, if you can't afford a place to rent, there's a problem with our economy.(00:23:56):Let's look at that problem with our economy and do something about it. And I believe people have gotten so disempowered. So feeling that that's beyond them to do that. Then the next thing that the demagogues will do is say, well, let's look for a scapegoat then. Let's look for a scapegoat of somebody who's less powerful than you and let's blame them because that'll give you a temporary sense of having power. And that's how, I mean it's not unique to our situation. It's how fascism so often unfolds and how historically groups have been scapegoated. And I think we need to turn our attention back to what is the real cause of our anxiety. And I think the real cause of our anxiety is economic and political disfranchisement. Once we can actually tackle those topics, we can see how much more we can do when we work together across all isms and make things happen for a world in which everyone has a place.Speaker 1 (00:24:55):So then if you know people in your sphere, let's say, and don't name them here, that border on the narrative that says, if you disenfranchise someone less powerful than you, that will bring you some relief. If you have people like that in your life, Sarah, how do you approach them? How do you engage with them if you're willing to share any personal experience?Speaker 3 (00:25:28):Yeah, so my biggest personal experience with that was working as an activist alongside the Suquamish tribe when a lot of their immediate neighbors were trying to keep them from building housing, keep them from building relationships with other governments and actually took them to court trying to actually end their sovereign right to be a tribe. So that was my most direct involvement and that was 20 years ago. So it seems like ancient history, but I learned a lot from that, including from working with tribal elders who provided a lot of leadership for us and how we should work. And one of the things that I've learned from that and also from being a Quaker, is that the notion of how you talk to people in a nonviolent way, and a lot of that starts with using I statements. So when people in my neighborhood would say really disparaging things about the tribe, I would respond with, I feel this. I believe the tribe has sovereign rights. I believe they have always been here and have the right to govern themselves and build homes for their members. And it's harder, it's not as triggering when somebody says, I instead of starts with a word(00:26:58):When somebody says, you immediately have this responsive defensiveness because it's unclear what's going to come next and whether you're going to have to defend yourself when you say I, you're standing in your own power and your own belief system and you're offering that to someone else with the hope that they might empathize and perhaps even perhaps be convinced by part of what you have to say. But in the meantime, you haven't triggered a worsening of relationships. And one of the things I really didn't want to do was create anything that would further the violence, verbal most cases, violence against the tribe, sort of getting people even further triggered. So it was just really important to always be looking for ways to be very clear and uncompromising on really important values, but be willing to compromise on ones that were not important. So for example, when we were working on getting the land return to the tribe that had been a state park, we asked people what's important to you about how this park functions in the future? Because the tribe can take that into account they, but the idea that it is their land, the home of chief Seattles, that was not something we could compromise on.Speaker 1 (00:28:17):I love that using I statements intentionally checking in with yourself so you're not engaging in behaviors that trigger another person further into more defensive mode. Sarah, what are some resources or recommendations you could leave with me or us? When you think about engaging people and staying very present, it's a very human stance to say, I think I believe this versus an accusatory tone like you are this, you are that.Speaker 3 (00:28:50):I think the nonviolent communication that Marshall Rosenberg developed is very powerful. He has a very specific technique for having those kinds of conversations that are very focused on that notion about the I statement and also reflecting back what you hear from other people, but then being willing to use statements about what I need because saying that puts me in a position of being vulnerable, right? Saying I actually need something from you. You obviously have the choice of whether you're going to give it to me or not, but I need to be in a place where I can feel safe when we have these conversations. I need to feel like I live in a community where people are so then the other person has that choice, but you're letting them know and you're again standing in your own power as somebody who's self-aware enough, it also invites them to be self-aware of what they need.Speaker 1 (00:29:46):I love that. Yeah, keep going.Speaker 3 (00:29:50):I think there are other resources out there. I'm just not calling 'em to mind right now, but I think nonviolent communications is a really good one.Speaker 1 (00:29:58):And locally, since you talked locally, what are maybe one or two things locally that you regularly engage in to kind of keep up your awareness to keep yourself in a compassionate mode? How do you do that for youSpeaker 3 (00:30:16):Being out in nature? Okay,Speaker 1 (00:30:19):Tell me about that.Speaker 3 (00:30:22):Oh, in Japan, they call it forest bathing, but it's just a fancy term for being in some places it's really natural. There's beautiful walks. We're very fortunate here in the northwest that there are so many beautiful places we can walk. And when you're surrounded by preferably really intact ecosystems where you can feel the interactions going on among the critters and the plants and just let that wash over you because part of that as well, it kind of helps take some of the pressure off. It sort of releases some of us being kind of entangled in our own ego and lets us just have greater awareness that we're actually entangled in this much larger universe. It's much, much older and we'll go on way after we're gone and extends to so many different ways of being from a bird to a tree, to a plate of grass, and we're all related.Speaker 4 (00:31:33):Hey, this is Kim. So just a brief background. I am a 41-year-old biracial woman. I am a mom, a nurse, a child of an immigrant, and I identify as a Christian American. Thanks Danielle for asking me to chime in. I just wanted to touch base on this current political climate. I would say as a liberal woman, I really enjoy diversity and hearing and seeing different perspectives and engaging in meaningful conversation. Unfortunately, I feel like right now we are so polarized as a country and it's not like the air quote, good old days where you could vote for a politician that you felt like really represented your ideals and kind of financially what you value, policies, et cetera. Now I feel like it has become really a competition and an election of human rights, and I think for me, that's kind of where I draw my own personal boundary.(00:32:40):I think it's important to share different perspectives, and I think I do have a unique perspective and I enjoy hearing others' perspectives as well, but for me, I do draw the line at human rights. So I have learned over the years to just not engage when it comes to issues of individuals being able to choose what to do with their body, women in particular, it's terrifying to me as a nurse and a woman and a mother of a daughter who could potentially be in a situation at some point and not be allowed to make choices about her own body with a doctor. Also as the child of an immigrant, I was raised by a white mother, Irish German Catholic, and my father is an immigrant that has been here since 19 76, 77. He is from Trinidad and Tobago. He's actually served in the military and I have a hard time with vilifying people of color trying to come to this country and make a better life for themselves and for their future and their future generations, which is exactly what my dad was doing. So to me, it's a no-brainer, right? Not to tell anybody what to do or how to vote, but I think that it's really hard right now to hold space for individuals who may be attacking my rights as a woman, my ability as a nurse to be able to care for patients and really what this country was supposedly built on, which is being a melting pot and allowing any and everyone here to be able to pursue the American dream and make a life for themselves and their loved ones.Speaker 5 (00:34:34):As soon as the topic turns to politics, I feel myself cringe, and then I want to internally retreat a bit. Looking back over the past eight plus years, I realize I have been feeling like this for a long time. My body holds memories of heated, uncomfortable confrontive distancing and sometimes horrifying conversations with friends and at times, even with family, I'm tired as most people tired from the collective traumas. We have all lived through political, racial, and pandemic related. Eight years ago, I think I worked to try and remain objective. I told myself that my job was just to hear the other person with curiosity, but doing that was not enough to help me stay well in the midst of what I truly could not then and cannot still control. I've come to realize that I have to stay connected to my own feelings, to my own limitations.(00:35:37):I have to make space to feel my disappointment, my disgust, my fear, my sadness, my powerlessness, my ache, even my longing still when it comes to the realm of politics, I have to make room for my own humanity and then I have to be willing to share that, not simply be a listening ear for others. What's been most difficult for me as politics has driven division and disconnection is the loss of healthy dialogue and conversation. It feels to me like relational loss is there where it doesn't seem like it always has to be. I am passionate about the table, about creating and cultivating space at a table for all the voices and for all of the stories to belong. I still believe in this, and when I'm connected to my own humanity, it makes me far more open to the humanity of another, knowing my own stories that are being stirred up and activated by injustice, by what I perceive to be irresponsible politicians and policies that don't make sense to me and at times scare me when I'm in the presence of those who hold very different political views from me.(00:37:02):I have to actively choose to not just tolerate listening to them, but instead to try and listen for something more. I try to listen for the fear that often fuels their positions. The fear is always storied and the stories offer taste of their humanity and oftentimes their experience of suffering, which always offers the opportunity for empathy. I can't do it all the time. Some situations don't afford the time for curiosity and sharing. When that happens, I need space afterwards, space to release what I don't need or want to hold that I heard space to feel my own humanity again, and then space to choose to remember the humanity of the other person, and that is all an active practice. I think that othering people into political camps and categories is easily available and every time it happens, we lose more and more of our collective humanity and we feed the machine of hate that profits from our conversational and emotional laziness.Speaker 6 (00:38:11):I can't say it's always easy, that's for sure. What I try to do is see another person, whether it's around the political views or other things that I may not agree with somebody about or I might even actually see them as a quote enemy, is for one thing, I drop into my heart and get out of my head about ideas, views, and just try to be present in my heart as much as possible with as little judgment as possible and recognize the essence of the other person, the essence that's inside all the beliefs and the views, and recognizing also that we all have some sort of wounding from our lives, maybe our lineages, our generations, maybe even past lives and or trauma, and that that can obscure the essence of who we are, and I try to really remember that essence in another person.(00:39:34):And in relation, how do you see your own humanity? The other question you ask, how do you see your own humanity in the context of political dialogue? I have to say that's not really a question I thought about. I thought about how to see the humanity in others, so I really appreciate this question. I think if I start othering the other, if I get into too much judgment, I feel like I lose my own sense of humanity or at least the type of human I hope and wish to be. What helps me to I guess, discern when I'm in my own humanity, when I'm in the best of places, I guess I don't know how else to word that is I tune into my values. What do I value most and am I living by those values in the way that I want to be human In this world, for example, for me, integrity is super important as well as respect and compassion.(00:40:44):I'm not saying I'm always in this place, but these values that I aspire to live by help bring me into my own humanity and almost like check, checking in, tuning in checkpoints in a way, when I speak about compassion, sometimes people, all of what I'm saying, I want to, even though I'm maybe trying to see the essence of someone, I do try to discern that if there's being harm done, I'm not okaying any harm at all. And when I try to live by compassion, I feel like that's when I can really see the humanity in others and compassion for myself. I view compassion as a very active verb, a little bit different than empathy. Just that compassion is seeing the suffering, but wanting to do something about it and doing something for me. Compassion includes action, and sometimes that action is helping to disrupt or interrupt harm that's happening, and that's how I can show up in my humanity for others is the best I can do is acting as well as being that balance both, andSpeaker 7 (00:42:23):I'm Diana, she her and I didn't use to see myself in politics the way that I do now. It took decades for me to really start to get a grasp about who I actually am and how the ways I view politics, the ways I vote, who I support, how it actually affects me, and I spent a lot of years voting for things that hurt me without even realizing I was doing that because I was following the messaging and believing it. Ultimately that being a good fill in the blanks meant voting for fill in the blanks or being a good fill in the blanks meant donating to or supporting or whatever, fill in the blanks. And I hurt myself by doing that because I wasn't listening to my own knowing or my own intuition or looking in the mirror at who am I? What kind of world do I want to live in? I didn't ask myself those questions. I did what I thought I was supposed to do to fall in line, and there were people in my life during that who spoke truth, and it was true because it was individual to them. It was, here's what I know about me and here's what this policy means for me. And I didn't get it. I certainly didn't get it.(00:44:09):I judged it inside my own head, and yet those people who spoke their own individual truth are the people who were able to shed light through the cracks in my facade. And years later, I remember some of the things that people said or that they posted or whatever because those were the light that I saw through the cracks and it was so memorable, even though at the time I might have been irritated by it, it was memorable because I loved and respected these people and so their words didn't matter to me, even though at the time I very much disagreed and I hope that I will be allowed to be the light in some people's cracks because I know for a fact there's so many people like me who haven't actually looked at who they are, what they want, what kind of world do they want to live in if they separate themselves from the ideology of where they work or where they go to church or their family of origin or what their spouse is telling them, no honey, who are you? What do you want? And when people can be brave enough to do that, its everything up.Speaker 8 (00:45:46):My name is Marwan Cameron, and I was asked to answer a couple questions here, and the first question was, how do you see your own humanity in the context of political dialogue? And I had to think about this question. Our humanity is front and center when we talk about politics primarily because the issues that affect us, meaning the black community are often sidelined or ignored. I'll share some examples of that. Democrats and Republicans both speak about healthcare, the economy crime, but when they have centered those conversations around the realities they face, when do you actually see that take reparations. For example, we hear a lot about tax cuts or healthcare reform, but nothing about reparations for chattel slavery, for foundational black Americans which are owed to black people for centuries of exploitation. You can even look at our prison system where men are going to prison without HIV and very low percentages and then coming out several times higher when they are released from jail and prison, and I'll get into some of those stats. Also.(00:47:15):When we look at black men that are falsely accused of sexual assault, unfortunately we go back to Emmett Till and we never really talk about the contemporary men. I have a list of a hundred black men that have been falsely accused in the last five years alone. Albert Owens 2023, Christian Cooper, 2020, Joshua Wood, Maurice Hastings, Jonathan Irons, 2000, Anthony Broadwater, 2021, Mark Allen, 2022, Franklin, west 2020, Michael Robertson, Shaw, Taylor, Dion, Pearson 2021, Stanley Race 2019 Rashan Weaver 2020. Henry Lee McCollum, 2020. David Johnson, Jamel Jackson, Charles Franklin, Kevin Richardson, Raymond Santana, Corey Wise, you, Celine, Aron McCray, Brian Banks, which is a pretty famous name, Wilbert Jones. That's just 20 names in the last five years of a list of a hundred that I have that have been falsely accused of sexual assault, these aren't things that we talk about. Question two, how do you make space for folks in your proximity who did not share your political views as a heterosexual black male in this country, you really have no choice but to make space for others' Political views as in question number one, we are really only allowed to speak about injustices or political needs in the framework of the black community as a whole.(00:49:25):Matter what side you find yourself on, whether you're a Republican, we're oftentimes they straight up say, we're not acknowledging what your needs are. We're not going to do anything about your needs. You can come over here and vote with us if you want. As Trump said, what have you got to lose? What have Democrats done for you? Or you can look at the democratic side where in the last three elections, it's been existential against Donald Trump. And when Donald Trump won and then lost and is running again, we still haven't seen things like the repeal of qualified immunity, things like atoning for the most heinous crimes that the United States has committed in chattel slavery against black men. I've made space. We have made space as black men in regards to those who do not share our political views. Black men have fought in every war for the United States of America. We have stood up, stood behind, been sacrificed for the good of almost every cause, and we're told not yet. It's not the right time. We too need, have needs, and it becomes a zero sum game.Speaker 9 (00:51:19):Growing up, we had Sunday dinners at my grandparents. Conversation was always lively with my family, talking loudly, fast, and often right over each other. We talked about everything, what was happening around us, our community, what was in the paper and on the news that evening. We didn't always agree. In fact, I think my grandparents debated opposite sides. Just for fun, I fondly remember my grandmother saying, your grandpa and I are canceling each other's votes at the polls. They would both smile and sometimes laugh. Considering my upbringing, I was surprised to hear my instructor at cosmetology school lay down the law. Politics and religion were never to be discussed, not in school, and certainly not if we wanted to be successful professionally. I learned to smile and nod. I strive to find common ground with the opinion of guests. I was raised not to look for any offense with ideas that contrasted my own.(00:52:16):It takes both a left and a right wing to make the eagle fly and what a boring world this would be in if we all agreed. But then Trump happened up until he achieved power. Generally speaking, whether the law or policy was written by conservatives, liberals, moderates, there was a basis of bettering the American way of life. To be clear, this wasn't always the advancement of protection we agreed with, but we could see the logic of it. For the most part, Trump's leadership consists of a hatred for people who are not like him. Early on in his campaign, he told Americans to police their neighbors if they were of a specific religion he has built upon dehumanization and vilification every day sense. My mother lived in Germany for a few years and a town not far from Dau. It was the early 1960s and not yet recovered from World War ii.(00:53:21):This quaint little town overlooks the Bavarian Alps with architects right out of a storybook and a stunning view of Munich. It was evidence that the residents of this charming quiet village were aware that 800,000 people came in and no one left. History books paint the picture that everyone was scared of speaking up for fear they would be next. But with critical thinking, we know many of those approved. They've been listening to the nonsense of their leaders, their beliefs that Jews, the disabled homosexuals, immigrants were a burden on the healthcare system, education system, taking their German jobs, businesses, and homes. They were demonized so strongly, so powerfully. They were no longer human, no longer their neighbors, doctors, teachers, bakers seamstresses their talents, their skills and their very humanity no longer existed. We know this to be true, but what we don't talk about is the slope that good people slid down that enabled this to take place in the coffee shops, birthday parties, sitting with friends, playing cards, Sunday family dinners, these words came up.(00:54:43):Hitler's rhetoric spread and thoughtful kind people did not correct their friends, family, guests and clients. There were Nazis and sympathizers, but there were good people that saw through Hitler's dumpster fire of lies. These are the people I wonder if they ever slept well again. Could they ever look at themselves with honor and integrity? Trump proudly uses this method. He has people willing to do his bidding. He has sympathizers, but what he doesn't have is my silence, my obedience. My voice is the born power. I have to stand strong and correct the lies he tells and the people in my circle repeat. I will lose clients and friends taking this action, and that's a price I'm willing to pay, but I'm not willing to live out the rest of my days knowing that I didn't do everything in my power to stop in.Speaker 10 (00:55:49):How do you make space for folks in your proximity who don't share your political views? I am lucky that I live next to my parents and that my mother-in-law lives in a small home on our property. For years, there was a constant strife between my parents, myself, husband, and my mother-in-law due to political and religious beliefs, uncomfortable dinners, having to watch what you say, an aura of judgment that would seem to permeate family gatherings. They were quite the norm. And each time that they would leave, I would feel a sense of relief. Sometimes someone would decide not to come or just tell us that they needed a break. This would create less tension, but I worry that someone would feel left out or that they would feel judged if they weren't present. And actually that would happen more often or not, especially in my time of anger before and during Covid.(00:56:40):As mentioned before, when I decided that I needed to focus on my own sense of happiness and live up to my values and beliefs, I decided that my home would become a politics, religion free zone. I wanted my home to be a safe for everyone. And this was a tough transition. And what was most difficult was creating boundaries for our parents, having the hard conversations about why we're asking people to withhold their opinions on politics and religion and to focus on grandkids sports and family celebrations, et cetera. For the first few months, I was constantly reminding everyone of the rule, but eventually we all seemed to settle in and even catch ourselves when we deviated from how sex expectations, dinners and events became more pleasant. And when our guests would leave, I didn't have to decompress or worry about how to fix an issue or soothe someone's feelings.(00:57:27):This one simple step has been a game changer, and it's not always perfect, and sometimes people will slip up, but instead of taking on the issue, we will move the conversation to another topic. Some would say that we need to talk about the issues and debate their merits so that we can grow and come together. But no, after finding my purpose, I don't believe that being right is more important than someone else's feelings. I want everyone who sits at my table and breaks spread with me to feel loved and valued. It's not perfect because we're human, but we're trying one dinner at a timeSpeaker 11 (00:58:03):To how do I hold my own humanity? In the context of political dialogue, one of the first things that comes to mind for me is, at least in political conversations, what defines my humanity? When I think about politics, much of our politics is really about power and privilege, of which I happen to have both. And so when I'm thinking about politics, I'm thinking about my social location as a able-bodied, middle class, heterosexual Christian White woman, I carry privilege in almost every aspect of that identity, at least here in the United States. And so when I'm thinking about humanity and political dialogue, our political system has historically always been and continues to be set up to serve people with my type of humanity very well. The thing that I'm constantly trying to keep in my mind is what about the humanity of my brothers and sisters experiencing oppression, marginalization when it comes to my voice and my vote in political situations, I have over the years had to learn to think less about how can I use my vote and my voice to engage in politics in a way that benefits me because I'm already benefiting from our system.(00:59:42):Our system is set up to benefit people like me who carry great levels of social privilege. What I really want to know as I'm trying to use my voice and my vote wisely now, is how do I leverage both of those things, my voice, my vote, as well as my power and privilege to engage in political dialogue in ways that fix broken systems. So I am oftentimes not actually voting or advocating for the things that would benefit me the most or necessarily align perfectly with my theological or political ideals. I'm looking at where are the most broken places in our system? Where is our government currently oppressing individuals the most? And how can my vote and my voice be used to leverage our politics in such a way that those broken systems begin to get fixed and healed over time so that those whose humanity looks different than mine are receiving the same amount of privilege of assistance of power that they should be.(01:00:57):And when it comes to dealing with those that I'm in proximity with who have very different political ideologies than myself, of which I will say in my current context, there are quite a few. I am constantly having to remind myself to focus on core values, values over stances that our conversations and our engagement with one another centers not so much around opinions about specific political stances or issues as much as the core values that we share. If my core value is for equality and equity, if my core value is that we're caring for the poor and the marginalized, then regardless of what stances I might have on certain issues, my voice and my vote represents those core values. And I've found that even when certain stances might be different, when we dig into the core values that are at the root of our decision-making, there's oftentimes a lot more common ground than I ever expect there to be.Speaker 12 (01:02:06):This recording is for the fabulous Danielle Castillo. I think what I am seeing right now as I think about how to welcome people's humanity and politics are a few key things that are both shocking and I would say disappointing in a day and age where we seem to want to tolerate people not being locked into binary spaces, we have relegated differences and opinion and viewpoints into a bipartisan politic. And what that does is that means that there are people who are in and who are out. And we've had to embrace things that we both love and hate if we ascribe to any one of those bipartisan objectives. And so we've had to in some ways, in our own humanity, violate pieces of ourselves to say, well, I align this part one way, but even though I categorically reject their views on this another way. And then regardless of whatever spectrum you're on inside of that political continuum, and it's hard because at that point, if we say in a lot of other spaces that there's space for nuance and there's space for gray, then why here do we land in those spaces?(01:03:16):And so that would be the first that it is an either or, and we seem to be comfortable, most comfortable that way. And then to demonize and villainize somebody who's in the either or space, instead of allowing for the gray, you're either all for me or all against me, and you can't live somewhere in the middle. The second thing that would be shocking and disappointing for me is the way that we've been able to start arranging the things that we can tolerate. And so I can say, well, I love this candidate because I love these three things and I agree with them and I hate these four things, but they're not that bad. And you love this candidate, you love the other candidate for these three things, but you hate them for those four things. And the fact that you don't hate 'em enough over those four things means that you're a terrible person.(01:04:02):And I find that just so interesting and so sad that we've been able to say, well, the four things I can stomach that I don't like are somehow more or less worse than the four things you feel like you could tolerate or not tolerate. And so my list of sins or offenses that are easily navigable, somehow I get to become the moral compass over what should be enough or not enough to disqualify somebody for public service. I think at the end of the day, what makes us hard is that we see people in the middle as somehow exhibiting some sort of cowardice. And I think we're pushing people to violate their own humanity and say, as my experience changes and as the neighborhood changes and the people around me change, and my own philosophy changes that I can't stand in a faithful middle and say, well, I agree with some of this, but I don't agree with some of that.(01:04:54):And we've called those people cowards instead of principled moderates, and we've shamed them into saying, well, you have to choose something. And I think that is so unkind. And I think really at the end of the day, we are asking people to violate their own humanity and their own understanding of who they are and their own sense of who they are as a person by saying that they have to agree one way if they want to be a human or be a woman or be a person of color or be a person of faith. And I think it's both sides. I think every side is complicit. At the end of the day, what is really hard is that I think most people want to vote for the person that is going to lead well, and they want that person to be a good person. They want them to be an upright person.(01:05:37):They want them to be an authentic person, the same person behind closed doors as they are in the public face. And I would say, I don't think that's most people who choose politicking as a vocation, I believe that so much of their job is diplomacy and having to be a lot of faces in a lot of places. And so asking for that kind of authenticity and consistency in a social media world is almost asking the impossible. I don't think it totally is impossible, but I think it's exceptionally hard. Many of the things that we want to ascribe to one individual and how they uphold or represent their own party are carefully crafted narratives by a team of people who are professional politicians and marketers, and to ask them to give you an authentic person, their job is to not give you an authentic person. Their job is to give you an avatar that you feel you can most connect with so you can make the decision they want you to make.(01:06:33):And that is really for me, the reality of what we're up against right now is that we want to say we're voting for ideologies, and in reality we're voting for a carefully crafted narrative that is crafted by people who want you to believe a particular way. And I know that feels kind of negative, and that makes me so sad to even voice that out loud and to vocalize that out loud. But I would say that I hope in some way that we experience real freedom and real understanding of what it means to be a global citizen and to be a citizen of this country, is that we understand that. And the complexity of who I am as a person and how I interact with other people and how they understand their own complexity and their own humanity means that I can believe a lot of things that belong in a lot of different camps.(01:07:19):And that's okay. That's what honestly, being intrinsically American means, but also just to understand our own humanity in the global context is there are things that I will feel one way about and they squarely belong in one camp, but there are other things I believe that belong in another camp. And both of those things can be true for me without somebody demanding that I carry some sort of alliance or allegiance to one person. I think that's so gross and so foul at the end of the day. I think what makes America so interesting and so fascinating, but I also think so beautiful and so compelling and so desiring for people who are coming into our borders, is that there is this understanding that I can stand squarely as an individual person and be able to express myself as who I am as an individual and also belong to a collective that makes space for that.(01:08:14):And that is intrinsically what it means to be America. I'm free to be us, but I'm also free to be me. And so I think politics pushes us into a narrative that is against intrinsically who we say we are, and that really is the basis of freedom. And so that's what I would feel about that. Now, this is an added bonus, and I know you didn't ask for this, Danielle, but I'm going to give it to you anyways because I firmly believe this. I think it is more dehumanizing, and I think it is so incredibly sad that we don't allow for people to be principled moderates. That we are sanctifying the ability to castrate people's ability to be able to stand in the middle. And we vilify them as being weak or vilify them as being cowards because their understanding of what is actually evil is.(01:09:09):It's a broad spectrum. And to say that there is good everywhere, it is true to say there is evil everywhere is true. And how people interface with both of those things is true. And so I hate that we have become okay at using our theology and using our social media platforms and using our politicking as throwing stones for people who say, I want to hold a faithful middle. And that faithful middle means that I can believe a multitude of things and that I stand in the own gray and the nuance of who I am and how I understand my neighbors and what that looks like. And we know that some of those people are standing with compassion and with courage. And to call those people cowards, I think is the most ignorant, I'm trying to find the kindest way to say this, right? So I think it is just absolutely ignorant.(01:10:00):And then we've used quotes out of context and scriptures out of context to tell those people that somehow they're bad and evil people. And it's just not true that they're honestly sometimes the bridge builders and the unifier in places where they are trying to be peacemakers and they're trying to be people of peace. They're trying to be people of belonging and welcome. And so they're holding a faithful middle to say, my heart is going to take enough of a beating where people may misunderstand me, but I'm going to make it big enough and available enough where everybody can come sit under my tent. And I think that's brave work. I think that is courageous work, and I think that is humbling work that we could learn more from instead of castigating really more than anything else. So those are my 2 cents, honestly, more than anything else.(01:10:51):The last 2 cents I could probably give you that I think is so shameful is I am tired of any political party that tells me that they are doing more for working class Americans or doing more for poor people, and yet they're spending 2 billion to fly somebody around and send me junk mail to my home. I would much rather you stop buying ad space and then you actually go and serve the poor and somebody takes a picture of you doing that on accident. And I actually get to see that and go, oh my gosh, they're actually serving the poor. Do not tell me you're serving the poor or serving working class Americans and you haven't talked to one or seen one in a very long time. And my God, you have not lived in our shoes. You have not lived on our pay scales. You have not come in and volunteered regularly, and you only show up when there's a camera crew doing that.(01:11:34):That is so gross to me, and I hate that you send me mail about it and spend 2 billion fundraising for things like that. And yet that money could go to the poor and that money could go to programs. If there's one thing that makes me want to soapbox so bad, it is that more than anything else, I don't want to hear what your fundraising dollars have done to actually help your campaign. And that thing becomes a total waste when you lose. And that money doesn't go into the pockets of people. That money goes into the pockets of advertisers and radio stations and TV stations and social media influencers and all sorts of nonsense and actually doesn't go into the pockets and the hands of people who are feeding the poor that is garbage. So I feel very strongly about that, but I dunno if this is what you need, but that's how I make space. I make space for people who live at Principled Middle because I think blessed are the peacemakers and I want them to feel safe with me.Speaker 13 (01:12:26):Good morning. My name is Luis Cast. How do I see my own humanity in this political context? Well, it's simple as that. I'm a human being. I'm not a pawn or a little peace on a game. I'm a human being born and raised in Mexico, but I live here in the United States over half of my life now, and I'm a human being. And no matter what the promises they give me or what they're going to do in government, I'm still just a human being that wants the best for me and my family. And that's what they need to address the human being in us regarding not regarding color or race or where they come from. Treat us a as human beings. And the other question, how do I make space for folks who do not share my political view?(01:13:46):Well, again, it's just simple. I was taught that love whoever disagree with you or even your enemy. But to be honest, that's the hardest thing to do. People that don't agree with you or you don't agree with them, and sometimes they even hurt you. But I try to do my best, honestly, just to listen and sometimes put myself in their shoes because everybody has been brought up differently in families, cultures, regions of the country from the south, from New England, they call in the west in California. So we all have different views. So I just don't have an ear and sometimes an opinion, but mostly an ear so they can really listen to what they, I believe, where they come from, where they come from. So that is what I try to do. No, perfect, but that's what I try to do.Speaker 14 (01:14:59):Hi, my name is Claire. I am a white, cisgender, heterosexual woman. I live in Paulsboro, Washington. So the first question is how do I see my humanity in the context of this current political moment? And I'd start off by saying I come from a pretty privileged place, like my own personal humanity isn't very threatened just because I'm white, I'm straight, and yeah, my own family background. I have a lot of support and I'm not ever threatened with becoming homeless or something if I can't pay my bills. But still things are really scary for so many people right now. So I definitely feel that all the time. And I would say that it's just a really disheartening time. A lot of the, I mean, pretty much all politicians, I'd say are very untrustworthy at a local and national level. And I think we're all seeing that, especially in the context of what's happening in Gaza.(01:16:26):For the last over a year now, all these politicians that felt like they were progressive and would speak out when heinous things happened, most of them have gone silent or completely denied what's happening in Gaza, or just said really brief empty words, always proceeded by talking about Israeli hostages. So yeah, it's been terrifying because we realize the extent of politicians care for the general public and for the global wellbeing of humanity. And it only stretches so far because first and foremost, they're concerned about their own and standing in the political world because we've seen a lot of people lose their reelections for standing up for Palestinians.(01:17:38):And I think what's really disheartening is seeing it at a local level. In some ways, we expect national politicians to be pretty sleazy and skirt around really big, terrible, important issues. But seeing it at a local level has been really terrifying because I mean, they said it was then a couple decades ago, like 30, 40 years ago, there's more crises going on. And that really, for me, I've always thought, well, this is how it's always been. There's just the media reports on more stuff. We have social media, we can't hide a lot of things. So I don't know if that's true or not, but I mean, it probably is. We're in a time of climate crisis too, so it makes sense that things are just, they're not slowing down.(01:18:49):I don't know where I was going with that, but yeah, I guess I would just say humanity. It feels threatened on so many levels for my queer friends, for my friends of color, for any women or female identifying people just on so many levels, it just feels like our rights are being threatened and everything feels tenuous. If Trump wins, what the hell is going to happen to this country? And if Kamala wins, what the hell is going to change? I don't believe in politicians. They're not going to save us. That's how it feels. We have to save each other that are diehard Trumpers or something. I'd say all those people are my relatives that live in Wisconsin or a couple of coworkers, and we don't talk about politics, but on a deeper level, I try to remember that it's hard, right? Because hard, it's hard not to hate people for what they believe. I guess that's a horrible thing to say, isn't it? But I see the consequences of people who vote for Trump and put him in office the first time, their direct consequences because they voted for Trump and because of their beliefs and because of what they repost online. That just has bred so much hatred, and it's led to people being terrified for their lives and people losing their lives. There's so much propaganda being shoved down people's throats, the people that have Fox News plane 24 7.(01:21:06):I don't know the last time I watched Fox News, but I've overheard it. That stuff is crazy. They're being fed lie after lie after lie. So yeah, it's like people are also a product of their culture and it's hard to fight against your culture. So I try to give people some grace with that, but I also don't know how they can't see their own beliefs as harmful and full of hatred. I really don't understand. So yeah, it's hard. It's hard to remember people's humanity, but I have obviously my own blind spots and my own ways that I'm super ignorant and willfully ignorant in the things I look away from and the things like I'm resistant to learning because it's inconvenient or uncomfortable for me. So I try to hold that space for people too, because we're all learning. Yeah, it's a process of trying to remember people's humanity. And I think, yeah, but it just feels like when people support someone that spews so much hatred, it's really hard not to pin that blame on them as well, because they're also at fault for putting people like that in power. So I don't know. Yeah, it's a tough one.Speaker 15 (01:22:55):I feel like as somebody with various subordinated identities, whether that's being queer, being Latina, having a disability, being a woman, all of those things are increasingly politicized. And so for me, I find that political discourse specifically is often really dehumanizing and even performative on the other end of the spectrum. So our two major parties, Republican and Democrat with Republican, it's we well known that those political parties as they exist currently are working to strip away rights from people in all of those identity and affinity groups. While the Democrats, which I won't even say left, because current Democrats are right of center, when you look at a global pe

Rated RRuntime: 1hr 47minDirected by Natalie Erika JamesWritten by Natalie Erika James, Christian White and Skylar JamesStars: Julia Garner, Dianne Wiest and Jim SturgessPremiered at Fantastic Fest September 20, 2024Released on Paramount+ September 27, 2024RT: 39% critics / 73% audienceSynopsisTerry Gionoffrio is an aspiring dancer who is desperate to revive her career after a bad fall injured her ankle. Known as “the girl who fell” in the industry, she endures humiliating auditions and breaks down while trying to visit a producer in his lavish apartment building, the infamous Bramford. There she meets elderly couple Minnie and Roman Castevet, who offer her a place to stay and access to their many high society connections. But you know what they say about offers that seem too good to be true…Join us in two weeks when we review Terrifier 3, currently in theaters.Theme music: "Secret of Tiki Island" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Last month Matt Galloway visited the islands of Haida Gwaii, to hear about a historic agreement that recognizes the Haida Nation's title over the land. We revisit his conversation with renowned Haida artist Christian White — about preserving and celebrating his nation's ancient traditions — and hear about the return of sea otters to the archipelago's ecosystem.

The Writers Advice Podcast is bought to you by Booksprout. Booksprout is my go-to platform to share my stories with readers to engage with reviewers before they are launched with the rest of the world. Head to booksprout to increase your online reviews today! and THE WRITERS JOURNAL. Grab your copy here. && The AUTHORS BUSINESS JOURNAL All my other downloadable writing resources This week on the Writers Advice Podcast I am joined by author and screenwriter Christian White: On this episode Christian and I talk about: - His 20 years to becoming an overnight success - The importance of sharing your work - Writing thrillers, horrors and killer twists -Literary competitions -Balancing screen writing and novel writing -What books make a great movie -And all of Christian's advice for up and coming writers. -Check out Christian's brand new book here Grab a copy of my latest release - Adventure of a Lifetime HERE JOIN THE WRITERS ADVICE FACEBOOK GROUP Become a part of my ARC TEAM HERE Join us on Instagram: @writersadvicepodcast Contact Christian:Website: christian-white.com Contact Me:Website: oliviahillier.comInstagram: @oliviahillierauthorTikTok: @oliviahillierauthor

When human remains are discovered in a forest, police are baffled, the locals are shocked and one group of old friends starts to panic. Their long-held secret is about to be uncovered. It all began in 1999 when sixteen-year-old Aaron ran away from home, drawing his friends into an unforeseeable chain of events that no one escaped from unscathed. In The Ledge, past and present run breathlessly parallel, leading to a climax that will change everything you thought you knew. This is a mind-bending new novel from the master of the unexpected.

Join Australian author Christian White in conversation with fellow crime writer Amanda Hampson to discuss this new thriller that explores toxic masculinity, domestic abuse and the strange inner dynamics of male friendship groups. 

Renowned Haida artist Christian White takes us into his carving studio, where he and his team are putting the final touches to a 50-foot canoe, crafted from a giant red cedar. He tells us about the process and importance of bringing ancient traditions to life, by hand.

In this episode of the RE Social Podcast, hosts Andrew McCormick and Vince Rodriguez are joined by Christian White, founder of Newport Social Group, to discuss his remarkable success in the real estate market brought by the relationships he made along the way. Christian discusses his diverse background and entrepreneurial journey. From his naval service to commercial real estate, Christian talks about his success in the mid-term rental market, catering to traveling professionals and pivoting to serve local individuals in need. He shares his experience starting a landscaping business, emphasizing the value of hard work, freedom, and the importance of building strong relationships. Christian also delves into his book entitled “The Fastlane to Building Relationships” as he highlights the significance of networking and how he created his own Social Ecosystem. Tune in to this episode now and don't forget to leave us a review to show your support! Key Takeaways 00:00:00 Who is Christian White 00:01:04 Mid-term Rental Space   00:07:30 Future Property Acquisition   00:10:51 Business Ideas and Testing  00:12:02 Landscape Business   00:15:36 Leveraging Network for Business Growth    00:23:23 Social Intelligence   00:27:17 Newport Social Group   00:31:00 Benefits of In-Person Interaction   00:34:53 The Value of Social Capital    00:44:47 Leading with Value in Social Events   00:48:57 Negotiating and Creating Value   00:50:32 Sales Skills and Negotiation 00:53:35 Economic Sentiment and Real Estate Market   00:58:00 Overcoming Fear of Failure and Taking Risks  01:01:34 Learning from Successful Individuals    01:06:42 Future Real Estate Plans  01:09:54 Challenges in California Housing   01:12:34 Exploring Unique Property Ventures   Resources and Links Roomies https://www.roomies.com/ Furnish Finders https://www.furnishedfinder.com/ Facebook Marketplace https://web.facebook.com/marketplace/ "The 4-Hour Workweek" by Tim Ferriss https://fourhourworkweek.com/ Tim Ferriss Show with Noah Kagan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=518CG5zbh4g "The Fastlane to Building Relationships" by Christian White https://www.amazon.com/Fastlane-Building-Relationships-Curating-Ecosystem-ebook/dp/B0CKZF5P21 "The Bezos Letters" by Steve Anderson and Karen Anderson https://www.amazon.com/Bezos-Letters-Principles-Business-Amazon/dp/1642793329   Connect with Christian https://www.instagram.com/christian.white76/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/christian-e-white/ https://www.newport-socialgroup.com/ https://www.vp-landscaping.com/ Learn more about AnVi Invest

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In this episode of The Vortex Apologetic, Beef and the Brain discuss the deception of the Uni-Party. Also, they look at how the christian white male poses a threat to our government, and how the church is affected.  Lastly, they talk some Christmas things. Once again, grab your favorite drink and snacks, Tune in, listen and be a Berean!   Episode recorded on December 17, 2023

Dive into the world of strategic networking with Christian White, our latest guest on Essential Entrepreneurship with Enrique. A maestro of connections, Christian is the founder of Newport Social Group, a network conglomerate dedicated to helping entrepreneurs forge quality relationships that lead to substantial income growth. In this episode, Christian delves into the themes of his insightful book, ‘The Fast Lane to Building Relationships'. He unpacks the concept of "social capital" and its power to not just widen your network, but also to enhance your income. With a step-by-step guide, Christian shares his expertise on becoming a networking virtuoso, revealing the methods that have made him a renowned figure in the realm of business networking. Whether you're looking to break into the networking scene or aiming to polish your relationship-building skills, Christian's profound insights and practical advice promise to transform the way you connect. Tune in to learn from one of the best in the business and start leveraging your social capital to its fullest potential. Get the book: https://www.christianwhite.me/the-fast-lane-to- building-relationships Join Christians Network: https://www.newport-socialgroup.com/ https://instagram.com/christian.white76?igshid=NzZlODBkYWE4Ng==https://linktr.ee/EssentialEnrique Connect with Alexander: IG @SuaveOlave

We report four state-church victories this week: Minnesota, Oklahoma and two in California. We also report on the advocacy group FFRF Action Fund, working to keep religion out of politics and law. Then we speak with Robert P. Jones, president and founder of the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) about his powerful new book The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy: and the Path to a Shared American Future.

Sorry not sorry… I AM GONNA SAY IT AGAIN AND AGAIN JESUS WAS NOT A CHRISTIAN WHITE NATIONALIST ~ E 447 - The (Almost)Daily ZenCast

It all runs in the family!Join BP, Coop and Justin as we discuss Relic, the 2020 Australian horror film that focuses on a terrifying physical manifestation of dementia.Follow the Complete Guide to Horror Movies podcast on our social channels below.↪ Facebook↪ TikTok↪ Twitter↪ Instagram↪ Subscribe to our YouTube channel↪ Tip us $5↪ Linktree↪ Website↪ Shop our Store!ProductionIn October 2018, Emily Mortimer, Robyn Nevin and Bella Heathcote joined the cast of the film with Natalie Erika James directing from a screenplay she co-wrote alongside Christian White. Jake Gyllenhaal and Riva Marker served as producers on the film, while Anthony Russo and Joe Russo served as executive producers under their Nine Stories Productions and AGBO banners, respectively.ReleaseThe film had its world premiere at the Sundance Film Festival on 25 January 2020.[6] On 10 March, it was announced that IFC Midnight had acquired the North American distribution rights to the film. In the United States, it was released on 3 July 2020 in drive-in theatres and received a wide release in theatres and video on demand on 10 July.Box officeRelic grossed $192,352 from 69 theatres in its opening weekend, finishing first among reported films. It then made $195,674 from 128 theatres in its second weekend.Critical responseOn review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, the film holds an approval rating of 92% based on 231 reviews, with an average score of 7.6/10. The site's critics consensus reads, "Relic ratchets up its slowly building tension in an expertly crafted atmosphere of dread, adding up to an outstanding feature debut for director/co-writer Natalie Erika James." On Metacritic, the film has a weighted average score of 76 out of 100, based on 34 critics, indicating "generally favourable reviews.#relic #australia #rupaul #callmemother #australiahorror #dementia #horror #movie #death #horrorfilm #splatter #deathscene #blood #gore #scarymovie #horror #completeguidetohorror #horrormovie #scary #creepy #graphic

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In this episode of our FROSTY FAILURES SERIES we take a look at the film Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas (2014) Kirk is enjoying the annual Christmas party extravaganza thrown by his sister until he realizes he needs to help out Christian, his brother-in-law, who has a bad case of the bah-humbugs. Kirk's fresh look at Christmas provides Christian the chance to see Christ is where He has always been: at the center of our Christmas celebrations and traditions. Can Kirk save his in-law's opinions on Christmas or will he have to celebrate the holiday without him? Kirk Cameron as himself Darren Doane as Christian White, Kirk's brother-in-law Bridgette Ridenour as Kirk's sister David Shannon as Diondre Raphi Henly as conspiracy theorist Ben Kientz as St. Nick We watched it so you wouldn't have to. Listen, rate and share Find us at all2reeltoo.com Listen to Mike on The Family Fright Night Horror Podcast ... https://open.spotify.com/episode/7kstbpDOnLQeI8BQGLzina Check out some cool music by host Matthew Haase at https://youtu.be/5E6TYm_4wIE Check out cool merchandise related to our show at http://tee.pub/lic/CullenPark Become a Patron of the show here.... https://www.patreon.com/CullenPark Listen to Mike on The Nerdball Podcast.... https://pod.fo/e/ba2aa Check out some cool music from Jason Quick at www.jasonquickmusic.com Check out these cool YouTube creators that Matt was talking about on this episode: https://youtube.com/c/CouncilofGeeks https://youtube.com/c/lostrekkie If you can during these troubling times make a donation to one of the following charities to help out. https://www.thetrevorproject.org/ https://www.hrc.org/hrc-story/hrc-foundation https://pointfoundation.org/ https://www.directrelief.org/ https://www.naacpldf.org/ https://www.blackvotersmatterfund.org https://www.tahirih.org/ https://www.monafoundation.org/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this week's episode, we discuss the recent cancellation of Kanye West (now known as Ye) for speaking out about the elite of our country who control the media, politics, entertainment companies, and contracts of those in high celebrity positions. We watch all the controversial clips and hear what he said firsthand, then discuss where I think he was correct and where I believe he may have crossed the line. He has since lost his access to banking with Chase, has been sued by George Floyd's family for 250 million dollars, and had the podcast where he spoke out on this topic completely pulled from all platforms.   Subscribe and leave a 5-star review! ----more---- Donate to support the show by going to https://givesendgo.com/redpillrevolution   Our website https://redpillrevolution.co/    Protect your family and support the Red Pill Revolution Podcast with Affordable Life Insurance. This is attached to my license and not a third-party ad!   Go to https://agents.ethoslife.com/invite/3504a now!   Currently available in AZ, MI, MO, LA, NC, OH, IN, TN, WV. Email austin@redpillrevolution.co if you would like to sign up in a different state   ----more----   Full Transcription    Welcome to the Revolution. Hello and welcome to Red Pill Revolution. My name is Austin Adams and thank you so much for listening. Today we have quite the episode. If you have not heard the former re the rapper, formerly known as Kanye West is in a whole lot of trouble. Now, I tend to disagree on a lot of the reasons why. Um, we're gonna dive into that. If you don't care about Kanye West, that doesn't matter in this podcast. If you don't like rap music, you don't like Kanye in general, or yay as he likes to be called now, um, we'll talk about why in a little bit, cuz he talks about that with Chris Commo. Um, but he is in a world of trouble in the mainstream media, mainstream entertainment. He's been canceled off of basically all of the social media platforms and I. He's speaking out on something that we here have been talking about for quite some time in many different ways. So we will discuss, basically I listen to this three and a half hour podcast with him. I listen to all the interviews. I waited a day or two to see what else came out. Um, but some of the things that we're gonna discuss here is he had his bank account canceled by JP Morgan Chase. He had, uh, is now, uh, had a lawsuit filed against him for 250 million by George Floyd's. Uh, he did say a couple questional little things, which we will also address. Um, and then he went on Chris Cuomo's, uh, new show. I didn't even know he had one until recently. Um, but we will break that down too. He talks about, you know, basically the systemic racism behind basically putting the whole black vote as he called it, into a, a, uh, you know, a term that is used to describe, there's no white vote. He talks about. I mean, there's really some really interesting stuff, some really deep layers of the, you know, conspiracy world, which he kind of peels back here and just sheds enough light on it so that it really starts to illuminate some of these questions that you can bring up in yourself and start to dive deeper into. So we will get. All of that today. But first, thank you so much for listening. I appreciate you from the bottom of my heart, what you already know, but I would appreciate it even more if you could go ahead and hit that five star review button. And if you're not already subscribed, go ahead and subscribe Every single week we have conversations just like this. Um, talking about what's relevant, what's current, what are some of the, you know, crazier things that are going on in the world. Um, and we will get to all of it, but only if you subscribe will you be able to follow along. So go ahead and do that. Head over to red pill revolution.co.com is for losers, and you'll be able to sign up for the sub stack. You'll be able to get all of the articles, uh, documents, uh, videos, all of the stuff that we discuss here today. Um, and I will have that one out for you by the time, uh, basically this podcast is out tomorrow. Um, so make sure yet you're there. Uh, again, I appreciate you. Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart, and welcome to the Revolut. Welcome to Red Pill Revolution. My name is Austin Adams. Red Pill Revolution started out with me, realizing everything that I knew, everything that I believed, everything I interpret about my life is through the lens of the information I was spoonfed as a child. Religion, politics, history, conspiracies, Hollywood medicine, money, food, all of it. Everything we know was tactfully written to influence your decisions and your view on reality by those in power. Now I'm on a mission, a mission to retrain and reeducate myself to find the true reality of what is behind that curtain. And I'm taking your ass with me. Welcome to the Revolution. All right, let's jump into it. The very first topic that we're gonna discuss today is, again, this is all gonna be on the rapper, formerly known as Kanye West, who currently goes by the name, yay. Um, probably gonna mess it up a bunch of times, but he got pretty upset at, I believe it was Chris Cuomo. Um, I think the other one was a sexual assaulting weirdo. I'm not too sure that the other one isn't. Um, but, uh, Chris Cuomo, he got, got a earful from Ye, um, about that. Um, but I'll probably just call him Kanye because that's how everybody knows him as. So, um, Kanye West basically went onto Tucker Carlson. So we'll start from the very beginning of this story. Kanye West went on to Tucker Carlson and talked about the election, talked about, you know, um, a lot of different subjects and some of which got pulled out of the interview. Now when those clips that got pulled out of the interview got released, a lot of people were starting to call Kanye West an anti-Semite for saying things, more generalizations about the Jewish community, but more so specifically referring to the entertainment industry, um, being owned by singular families and those who are in high positions of power in the entertainment industry that own some of the largest news media corporations in the world, uh, that own the contracts of the music artists. All of those he was pointing to saying that they've screwed over the, the black community, the entertainment community for far too long. And he's sick and tired of it, that they've been calling him crazy. They had his kids ripped away from him based on that narrative, which they started through the news cycle. And you'll actually see how hard, uh, Commo goes after him on that same thing, you know, just that immediate point, uh, which was pretty interesting to see after him already calling it out right now. Now, what I find to be interesting is that since doing the interview, The interview where he was talking about how they were censoring him for calling out the truth. The interview has since been pulled within literally 12 hours of that three and a half hour podcast, which was from the, uh, what, what was the name of the podcast? The Drink something. Um, let me look up the name of it for you here, and you can still find it. They, they had it on YouTube. But let me go ahead and see the actual name of it. You can still find it, but it's from random little mirrors. It's called Drink Champs. So if you go to YouTube and you type in drink champs and then filter with Kanye, then filter your, uh, times based on, you know, filter your results based on time and then do it over 20 minutes. There's a bunch of people, and then go by upload date even. And you'll probably bill be your best way of listening to the full three and a half O power, uh, hour interview. But I pulled all of, I think his strongest points into this here. So on almost all of. I don't believe that Kanye is wrong. I don't, I don't, I think some of his generalizations were a poor choice of words, and I, I think there was one or two things that he said that were questionably, uh, maybe not very tactful. Uh, but I, I don't think in general the hi, the sentiment of what he was saying was racist. I don't think it was antisemitism. I don't think that at all. Um, now we'll discuss the ones that I do think were a, a bit controversial in the way that he approached the conversation, um, and, and, and create your own thoughts about. Uh, but the very, the first thing I I wanna show you is that this got pulled within hours. Now if you go to the YouTube comments, go to any clips talking about this, I mean, at least majority of them, depending on which platform, but almost every single one of the YouTube clips that are posted to discussing this conversation and talking about it in a negative light are getting ripped apart. The YouTube community, the community at large, the public voice is on Kanye's side on this. It seems like, according to all of the common sections that I looked into, everybody, almost every single comment was on Kanye's side, right? People are almost insulted at this point that you think that your audience, that you think the general public are so stupid that you won't even allow them to listen to the words coming out of Kanye's mouth. Right? And why is. , Are you afraid of the words or is he just crazy? And we, it, it's, it's the same thing about covid misinformation, right? It's the same exact thing. We don't think you're smart enough to decipher what's true and what's not true. So we're just not even gonna give you the other side of the argument. Well, I think that generally means that your argument is fairly weak, and I think that's what the public is generally sick of, right? The American population is far more educated than most populations in the history of humanity. Yet you think Kanye West's opinion in a three hour interview where they're drinking the entire time is going to persuade somebody one way or another and, and convince them. That's how scary Kanye is, that they're, they're gonna convince somebody of wrong, think false information, um, based on his words, even if they wouldn't have otherwise come to that same. Right. You don't think people are able to sift through information? Personally, I think you should be able to listen to anything, right? You, you should be able to go read mind comp from Adolph Hitler and decide whether his, his words were correct or not. Obviously, you're gonna come to the same conclusion as basically everybody ever, which was, Yeah, everything he did was terrible and horrible and he a bad, the worst person ever and everything he did and his sentiment, you know, I could go on. Obviously we know that we don't need to go into that, but you should still be able to read that book and you can, and you can, right. There's a couple quotes that we'll talk about, but let's go ahead and listen to Nori, uh, who is one of the hosts of this podcast. And him basically on his knees apologizing for how much hurt he caused the world by allowing you to listen to the words. And, and now go listen to that full episode. And you'll see he did not feel this way at all throughout the entirety of the interview. He was laughing, he was joking, he was having a great time. And what you're gonna see is those, the sentiment of Kanye West Yay. Uh, between his interviews is vastly different when he's approaching. And in the conversation with Cuomo, he is in a vastly different tone of voice, a vastly different, uh, uh, personality than, than he is in otherwise. And in the other interview, he's much more loose and he's talking from his heart in the other interview, and he's talk on the defensive so much in the Chris Cuomo interview that it makes it, you know, kind of crazy to see the variations from one to the next. Um, Let's go ahead and talk about this first. Let's listen to The Apology by Nori. I think that's how you pronounce his name. Um, and then we'll, we'll talk a little bit about some, some of that, the, the cancellation, because I think, you know, and I, I posted this yesterday, um, and, and I'll just kind of quote it verbatim for you because I, I, I truly think that this is, uh, telling, right? I think and, and, and this is what I said on Instagram at Red Pill Revolt, Kanye being canceled for calling out the entertainment industry after pandering to the black community for profit simply proves his point. Right? So, Kanye being canceled for calling out the entertainment industry elites for pandering to the black community for profit simply proves this point. You are useless to them once you stop playing. And what I mean by that is literally by canceling Kanye's episode, by showing him that, that, you know, you cannot speak on this topic. Even, you can't even talk about this. You can't even bring this up or you're gonna get canceled because that's what Kanye was talking about. He was getting canceled for bringing up things that you weren't supposed to talking about. Talk about the mainstream media, talking about supporting Trump, talking about, uh, you know, 20, 24 elections. All of those things led to him getting, you know, called crazy, him losing his children. Um, all of this stuff. So let's go ahead and listen to this apology and see what you think. I just, I'm here to say I apologize to anybody who felt like I let let them down, cuz I did feel like I, I did let them down to a certain extent because like I said, I did check him later, but by the time I checked him, it was like, it was already kind of like too late. So I can't. I can't be mad at Baller alert for, you know, posting the footage, uh, that I don't want them to post. Cause I, I'm not mad at them when I post the, they post the footage that I do want them to post. So, yeah, I do feel, I do feel let down. I do feel like I didn't do the right job, but this is a learning experience. I am not, I did not go to school for journalism, but that's not excuse. You know what I'm saying? So there you have it immediately within a day ripping down the YouTube. Because why, why do you think, how many threats do you think he got from the same people that Kanye is saying are threatening his life? Right. How many, how many, uh, industry leaders came to him and told him, If you don't take down this episode, we are going to tear you apart. You're gonna lose your brand. We're gonna come after you for lawsuits. All of this. Right? And immediately, the only way he's do, they're taking that down. They had a gr like those guys were laughing. They were drinking together, They were having a great time, and all of a sudden he's on his knees begging and apologizing. For even hosting a conversation with somebody and letting them have a conversation about it and releasing it to the general public. If you're not afraid of what you said, why are you afraid of what somebody else said? Why would you be afraid of the things that came out of somebody else's mouth? You should let them listen to them. And if they're an idiot and they're wrong, and what they're saying is a horrible thing, let people decipher that for themselves. Because if you are a terrible person, the the best thing that can happen to you is people can find out about it. You can make it public. People will hear the words coming from your mouth, especially in these long form con, long form conversations, right? If you thought I was a sociopathic idiot by now, you probably wouldn't listen to me. And so in this case with Kanye, let them listen to it. Let them hear it, let people decide. And if they think he's a racist jerk, and if they think that the things that he's saying is wrong, then you shouldn't take that away from the people being able to decide that on their own. And the only reason that you're pulling people or pulling that episode is because you're afraid of the real things that he said that called out the industry elites. That is truthful, right? If you look at some of the quotes that come out of this, you know, George R. R Martin said this, When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are telling the world that you fear what he might say. Hmm. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are telling the world that you fear what he might say. When you are censoring somebody, you are not concerned about the world, realizing that that person's an idiot. You're afraid that they're going to agree with them, and that agreement's going to start movements right? And Kanye had a great quote, I didn't pull it, but it was a good one. Um, where in this, where he said, You know, if I throw on short shorts in a tank top and I just start running, and people look at me from, from a afar, they're gonna think I'm crazy. Right? If I'm sweating, if I'm dripping, I have blisters on my feet and I'm just running by myself in, in short shorts in a tank top people are gonna think I'm, I'm weird if I'm running just for 25 miles, 26 miles, right? People are gonna think I'm a weirdo, right? Until my feet bleed and you know, they're gonna think I'm crazy. But the second you throw a number on me and you put a hundred people beside me also running, and you call it a marathon, then nobody thinks you're crazy. There's power in numbers and they know that, So they wanna rip this off of the platform. They are afraid of the movement that might happen against these elitist communities at the top of the entertainment industry. That talking about Disney, talking about the music industry, talking about several of the largest mainstream news corporations, you know, this is a quote from Kanye, from the Cuomo interview. He said 50% at least, of the people that own the contracts of rappers NBA stars, you know, he is talking about the black community specifically and saying that the, you know, the people that are making the most money that are black are, are completely owned by contracts of people who are at least 50% of the time of Jewish ja descent. And, and so that's where the whole antisemitism conversation came up of immediately calling him an antisemite for saying that the entertainment industry and the people primarily that are putting him in bad positions and other people that are owning the black community through contract agreements are doing so. And he said it's a modern form of slavery. Which I find to be very interesting. So let's look at this next. So the one we're gonna look at here is that the George Floyd situation after this one. But the first one we're gonna look at is JP Morgan Chase. Okay. JP Morgan Chase. Immediately following the, uh, con or the Tucker Carlson interview, uh, basically made it, They, they pulled, they, uh, went after Kanye for, they basically told him he could not bank with them anymore. Let me see if I can pull this up and talk about it. Okay. So here's the exact letter. Now, Candace Owens speaks on this and says, Earlier today I learned that Kanye West was officially kicked out of JP Morgan Chase Bank. I was told there was no official reason given, but they sent this letter as well to confirm that he has till late November to find another place for the Yeezy Empire. And here's what Kanye had to say. Say about that. And then we will read the letter. You know what I'm saying? JP Morgan, I put 140 million into JP Morgan and they treated me like shit. So if JP Morgan Chase is treating me like that, how they treating the rest of of y'all? No, that's outrageous. Yeah. And this is murder arrest with Chase account. If they're treating him like shit, putting $160 million through their bank, if they're censoring him, if they're getting rid of him off of their platform, what do they think of the rest of you? What are they gonna do to you? When you start speaking up on social media platforms and you have a social credit system, the exact same thing that happened to Kanye West here. This is a preemptive strike of censorship. You, they literally allowed Jeffrey Epstein to bank at JP Morgan Chase. They've allowed terrorist organizations from what? From articles that I've read. To bank through him, allegedly. Okay. Through JP Morgan Chase, but they're not allowing Kanye West while Jeffrey Epstein could bank at Chase Bank. That is telling after he was a convicted pedophile, after he was a convicted sex trafficker. But you say one thing about a community, and all of a sudden you get your entire banking platform stripped from you. We talked about this before, the banks are the linchpin to freedom. Now. They can pull you out of their banking platform at any moment if they don't like the things that you say. We saw this with PayPal. PayPal, literally saying that they're going to charge you $2,500 if you say something that they don't like, and then immediately retracted it because of the backlash that they got. Those were literally documents that were leaked from PayPal. They never said it was wrong. They just said, we didn't intend on doing that, which is just saying, Oh shit, we messed up and we're, we know now that you guys wouldn't have liked that Right. And how much money did they lose as a result? I think PayPal dropped like 10% or something crazy as a result of that. So here's the letter of what actually happened. Is that dear? We are sending the letter to confirm our recent discussion that JP Morris Morgan Chase Bank has decided to end the banking relationship with Yeezy LLC and its affiliated entities to provide the company with sufficient time to transition to another financial institution. We will continue to maintain the accounts, including all related products and services until November 21st, 2022. To avoid any transaction delays, we suggest that you stop processing company transactions and or using any products associated with the accounts five business days before the schedule closure date set forth above. After that date, the bank will close any open accounts and after deduction of any permissible service charges and pending transactions, remit all remaining funds in the form of a check delivered to the company. At the address of record. We ask that you promptly transfer your business to another financial institution before November 21st, 2022. If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to call your usual banking contact. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Sincerely, JP Morgan Chase Bank. It's the same exact people that he's critiquing own JP Morgan Chase. It's the same exact exact people that he's critiquing, you know, the same elitist community that so happened to fall under this specific name, that own basically all of the. Interesting. Um, so let's go ahead and talk about the next thing here, which is the George Floyd situation. George Floyd's mother is suing Kanye West for $250 million for saying something that may very well be accurate, as you will find out in the very next clip, allegedly. So let's go ahead and pull it up. George Floyd's mom suing for 250 million. Now, what Kanye West said is that he does not believe after watching a documentary, it's funny that they're not suing the documentary Cuz documentary comes with receipts, but $250 million for saying that he does not believe that George Floyd. From a neck on or a knee on his neck. Now we've heard people like Joe Rogan say that we've heard people all over have that, that idea in mind, and especially thinking from like a jujitsu perspective, if you don't know, I trained jujitsu, you know, literally choke people for fun. Um, when you understand where, where the, the blood comes from in the neck, right? And, and the way that you have to, how long you have to sit on top of somebody to make them die after they pass out, after they're unconscious. And how you, how you, how difficult it is to stop the flow of blood with a pretty. Choke, pretty good blood choke or strangle on somebody. It takes quite a bit of effort. It takes a little bit of time and it takes a lot of technique, right? You have to understand what you're doing. You have to understand how to approach that. I would be very hard pressed to figure out how to stop the blood flow from both, uh, both of the, uh, arteries on both sides of your neck with one knee, with the concrete on the other side, cuz your chin and your jaw would basically protect this other artery and it would remain allowing blood flow to your brain. I, I, I just don't understand how that would work. Now, I'm not saying that this wasn't false. Right. Um, but you can make that decision by yourself after we watch the clip from the documentary just released by Canice Owens. Um, but I think this is wild. I think it's crazy, and I think that this could raise a conversation that's really, really makes a community wake up to what happened through the Black Lives Matter protests, right? If you don't know, but Candace Owens just released a documentary about Black Lives Matter, talking about where all of the money basically was funding their own lavish lifestyles and mansions paying off bodyguards who were actually her husband's business. And like a million dollars or $2 million for bodyguards, um, paying, you know, uh, what is it like sexting companies and, and phone companies and prostitutes allegedly through the, the corporation and the entity, um, for doing so. It, it's so crazy. So let's go ahead and watch this video and then we will discuss it. Here is what Kanye West or Yay. Had to say about George Floyd, and then we will see what we think and if it was accurate. Here we go. I, I watched the George Floyd documentary that Candace Owen put up. One of the things that his two roommates said was, They want a tall guy like me. They want a tall guy like me. And the day when he died, he said a prayer for, you know, eight minutes. Mm-hmm. , He said a prayer for eight minutes. They hit him with the fentanyl. If you look, the, the guy's knee wasn't even on his neck like that when he said, Mama, Mama, his, it's his girlfriend. They said he screamed for his mama. Mama was his girlfriend. It's in the documentary. But something that hit me, that fucked me up when I was watching the documentary and it said they want a tall guy like me. When I looked at that image of him, this tall black dude with the bald head, he reminded me of somebody else who you think he reminded me of, Virgil, he reminded me of Virg. So let's go ahead and look at this here. Here's the do, uh, the article that talks about his mom suing him for $250. Uh, so it says, George Floyd's Family Preps $250 million lawsuit against Kanye West for overdose comments. It goes on to say, and this is from the New York Post. The mother of George Floyd's daughter, uh, says that she plans to file a 250 million defamation lawsuit against Kanye West for suggesting that Floyd died of a fentanyl overdose. Lawyers announced Tuesday. What you'll find out when we watch this next video, that it was in the trial for this, that he had basically three times the lethal dose amount of Fentanyl in this system. Um, so we'll see how the lawyer and, and the expert there tries to wiggle his way out of that with words. But this is not gonna, there's nothing that will happen to yay as a result of. There. This is gonna get thrown out just like everything else because there's so much documented proof, So much documented proof from the actual medical records from the autopsy, which shows that he did have fentanyls in the system on top of having meth in his system at three times. Three times the lethal dose amount for a regular individual. So we'll watch that in a minute, but it goes on to say that Roxy, Washington plans to file a suit on behalf of her and Floyd's minor daughter, Georgia, or I'm sorry, Gianna Floyd accusing West of making comments to promote his brands and increase marketing value and revenue for himself. His business partners and associate, which that had nothing to do with and obviously hurt him, didn't help him. The 45 year old rapper who now goes by ye made the comments during an hour long interview, three hour long interview Sunday on the drink Champs podcast, Floyd 46 died in May, 2020 in a caught on video arrest by Minnesota Police, in which he since fired the Sense fired Officer Derek Chauvin, who was later convicted of murder could be seen kneeling on Floyd's Neck. Now to say this was tragic that, you know, I was outraged by watching that video. There's no reason that officers should have been doing that. Again, coming from a jujitsu perspective, there's, that was untactful that was unnecessary. You should absolutely, if you're professionally retaining people physically for a living, you should absolutely know how to do it without causing harm to them. And you know, even in jujitsu, if you put your knee on some dude's d neck while he's laying on the ground, you're a dick and, and you're in a professional position here, he shouldn't have done that. It's wrong. You know, could that have caused death? I'm not a a a doctor, I'm not a autopsy specialist, so take it with a grain of salt. I have a little bit of knowledge coming from a world where we literally make people choke unconscious with strangle holds for the purpose, you know, of simulating this type of. But he absolutely shouldn't have done that. It was wrong. It was a little bit too violent compared to what you should be able to do to retain somebody like that. You should. He already had his back. He could have taken back control. He could have, you know, easily put cuffs on his hands. They should have absolutely. If guys bunch of fentanyl, he should be able to take control of this individual. Um, especially while he is sitting there pleading for his life. It was wrong. It was terrible. Nothing I will say here will go against that. Um, but now here's one thing that I kind of think is weird is that they said they, he ye said they hit him with the fentanyl. I don't know if that's accurate. How could you even have three times lethal dose within minutes if they did it? I don't see how that makes sense. I don't think that the cops did that. Um, I think, you know, What I remember, he had some sort of drug history. You know, he was in, you know, some other type of, you know, porn and things like that. So he wasn't, you know, the most above the law person. Um, but I, I think saying that they hit him with the fentanyl may be a little bit of a stretch. Um, I don't know if I agree with that. Um, I, I have no reason to agree with that. Okay. Um, if you look the, this is what Ye said. If you look, the guy's knee wasn't even on his neck like that. And we'll see that in the documentary footage that I pulled, is that it was according to the portion at least of what they showed, it'll show the whole thing. I don't even wanna watch the whole thing. I didn't wanna want to watch it when it happened. Um, you know, it's just terrible. But, uh, according to the, the video that we're gonna watch here, it shows that it was on his collarb. , I'm sorry, on, on his, uh, his shoulder blade, not his collarbone. Um, now it says that we will take all appropriate and necessary legal action. A few of your attorneys at, uh, employees, agents, partners, associates, and representatives fail to comply with this demand. Um, it said that the letter demanded that he inter the interview be taken down from all over the internet and demanded that Wes not make any further statements about Floyd's death. Interesting. Now they show a picture where his knee was absolutely on Derek Chauvin's neck. Okay, now, Your arteries are here, putting your, the knee on the back of somebody's neck right here. I I, again, the only way to kill somebody that's gonna make you uncomfortable, it's gonna make you pissed off later when you go home. And you gotta rub, rub out your neck with a, a foam roller, but that's not gonna kill you having a knee right here, right? That's not gonna do it. You, the veins and your arteries run the front of your neck right here. And so if you have a knee back here, it's not start stopping either of those main arteries. And that's just, again, just this part of the picture. Um, you, you basically have to stop both arteries to stop the blood moving through the brain, um, and, and actually kill somebody with a strangle. Um, it says that a, uh, show them also claim that drugs found in Floyd's system are responsible for. Uh, but a medical examiner determined that a lacks of lack of oxygen and compression of Floyd's neck were the cause of death. Chauvin also pleaded guilty to a federal charge of de depriving Floyd of his right to be free for the use of unreasonable force by a police officer. Okay, let's go ahead and watch the documentary because I think this fairly well refutes this claims. And none of this is like hearsay. This is all coming from the actual trial of Derek Chauvin's death, or I'm sorry, of Floyd, of Mr. Floyd's death of, uh, so let's go hot. Derek Chauvin was the one that was convicted of murder to correct myself, . Um, but George Floyd here. This is from the trial Derek Chauvin's trial, and we'll see what they have to say right here. This is the medical examiners. This is the, um, the autopsy specialist, and here it is from the perspective of Ms. Frazier's camera. It appears that Officer Chauvin's knee is on the neck of Mr. Floyd. Yes. Would you agree that from the perspective of Officer King's Body Camera, it appears that Officer Chauvin's knee was more on Mr. Floyd's shoulder blade? Um, yes. They had to have the jury believe that it was a neck restraint. It was the knee on the neck. It was asphyxiation that killed George. However, there was a ton of evidence that George Floyd consumed a toxic lethal cocktail of fentanyl and methamphetamine. Did it appear that Mr. Floyd said, I ate too many drugs? Yes, it did. Let's put it in perspective. Three grains of fentanyl on the head of a lead pencil. Enough to kill you. Enough to kill me. And so they had to continuously inculcate the public to believe that Derek Chauvin intentionally premeditatedly murdered George Floyd and drugs had absolutely nothing to do with it. As, as Lindsay and the toxicologist presented that awful testimony. And you have to think with the, the what was going on in our nation at that time. Could you imagine if he got off Derek, Derek Chauvin got off during that situation, Could you imagine what the public outrage would have been had he not been convicted of murder? There was already riots in the streets, There was already businesses being burned. If you don't remember that, that was so crazy during the lockdown that this happened, and literally our politicians allowed it to happen. So could you just imagine what would've happened if he got off during that? So, to his point, you know, they could not, and, and they, meaning, you know, the, the prosecution, the, the specialist, the judge, I mean, just the, all of their careers would have been ended immediately. Their names would've been, you know, written in blood on the streets. Metaphorically, it's, you just, it would be so difficult to even imagine the. Right. And then you go look at who is funding blats. Black Lives Matter is some of the very organizations that are being discussed by YAY or Kanye West in his remarks, and we'll look at that in a little bit. So let's continue this clip here. Do you recall describing the level of fentanyl as a fatal level of fentanyl? I recall describing it in other circumstances. It would be a fatal level. Yes. In other circumstances, had Mr. Floyd been home alone in his locked residence with no evidence of trauma and the only autopsy finding was that fentanyl level, then yes, I would certify his death as due to fentanyl toxicity. And they show a graph there. Fentanyl, toxicity of three, whatever. The, the way that they, uh, measured that, I think it might have, might have been like micrograms, um, three micrograms or whatever the measurement was there. It's not big enough on my screen. Um, but, and, and he had 11 and three was basically the average amount that it takes to kill somebody. So he had 11. And you, I like how he says there, you know, if he was at home and sitting there by himself and had he, you know, not been outside, then he would've died of fentanyl. 100%. I would've said that. And he didn't say a hundred percent, but he said, you know, that's, that's what I would've said is that he died of fentanyl overdose, but he didn't die inside of his home. Right? As if being in your home or out of your home has anything to do with your cause of death from a drug overdose. Now this goes on to say, and I will zoom in here, the police body cam footage. Uh, let's look. The police body cam footage also reveals George Floyd's claimed that he could not breathe prior to being put on the ground. And then I believe it. I know how to breathe, can't breathe. I can't breathe. Take a, I can't breathe here. Come on out. And then here it will say, and I'll just give credit where credit is due. This says the greatest lie ever sold, and this is on the daily. Plus. So if you want to go find that breakdown, and this is the second time that I'm talking about the Daily Wire Plus here in their documentaries because they've been killing it between Matt Walsh's, what is a woman, and Candace Owens now doing the Greatest Lie about Black Lives Matter. Um, I for one will go and watch that over the next few days and report back to you guys on it, um, because I'm very interested. Okay. Um, so let's go ahead, uh, and pull up the next situation. Although, let's touch on this for a little bit. I think that's interesting. I I, it's wild to me that he's now being sued. It's not gonna go anywhere, especially once you understand what we just heard and, and how within the actual case itself, this was discussed and talked about, and that he would have, according to that medical examiner, he would have died if it wasn't already from Fentanyl. That would've been their, their, what they would've said would've happened. So, you know, maybe being under stress and also having a lethal amount of fentanyl in your system has something to do with it. For sure, definitely could be a possibility. I'm not saying it's fentanyl alone, but having that e extra amount of stress on your body, or, you know, stress, anxiety, fear, all of that happening while also having three times the lethal dose at the exact same time. Yeah. It's probably, if you had to say which came first, the Fentanyl overdose or the knee on the neck being a part of that, it would probably be the Fentanyl had a, a major portion to do with it, which is actually pretty crazy that, that guy's, you know, I assume in prison today. Um, now let's go ahead and look at some of the, the other things that he said here. One of the things that I'd like to discuss is one of the more questionable things that Kanye said, or yay . I only correct myself because, uh, Kanye or Ye says that that was his, you know, West was a slave name. Uh, so he decided to change his name as a result. So, yay had some questionable things to say that that talked. And specifically, you know, a little bit about the Jewish community at large. Now, there is something to be said here, you know, that, that kind of preempt this. Uh, I, I have several Jewish friends. Uh, you know, I, I know several people. I grew up in a very Jewish predominant community. Um, so. You know, that's not like, you know, I have a black fund, so I'm not racist. No, not that, but I, I do understand the Jewish com community a little bit. The Jewish community is a very tight knit community, more than any other community that you or I really know of or understand. They, they generally do business only with each other if possible. Um, they're, the ways that they are, are together during, you know, worship their actual community centers. The where they live are all very specifically focused on their religious beliefs and, and their community at large. And if you understand, the way that Orthodox Judaism works is you are only considered, It's funny, I I get asked almost every time I walk past, there's always these younger, uh, boys out there probably doing something for their church where they're handing out pamphlets and I always get asked, you know, are, are you Jewish, Sir Apparently I look Jewish. Um, but, uh, but basically what you're only considered Jewish to like Orthodox Judaism, if your mother's. And the reason for that is because it's literally pa the passing from my understanding of it, the passing of your, uh, your genes and blood directly from Jewish descent. If your father's Jewish and your mother's not Jewish, you cannot be considered Jewish according to like Orthodox Judaism. Um, which is a more extreme type of Judaism compared to, you know, there's different levels, I guess, of this . Uh, but your mom has to be Jewish and it comes down to bloodline. Uh, so in this particular situation, you know, you have to understand where he's coming from. That is a very, very, more so than any other community, very tight knit in the way that they do business, the way that, you know, all of these things. So he talks about even being jealous of the way that their community is, how they only do business together, how they build these empires together. You know, how, you know, they, uh, one thing I was reading into is a lot of the, the Jewish community made their money off of, uh, you know, again, I don't know how correct this is off of, uh, the movement of, uh, having. Basically being lawyers that were doing divorce settlements to begin with when the, the predominant Christian legal teams weren't doing them. Um, which made them a lots of money, which made them a, a very, uh, powerful financial force in the communities that they were in. So, very interesting stuff. But again, I, I, I think the way that he approaches this conversation is very untact. I think the way that he frivolously throws out the Jewish community, and not specifically just calling out the families, the, the, the elitist families, like the Rockefellers, like the George Soros, like the JP Morgan Chase families, like all of these very predominantly elite families. Uh, and, and blood. That own almost everything that are very much so a part of the Black Rocks and the Vanguards of the world, and that own the entertainment industry, that own Disney, that owned msnbc, that owned cnn, that own all of these corporations from the shareholder standpoint, right? It's not like the CEO of every one of these companies is Jewish, but the shareholders, the one that make the final decisions and say the one that need to be appeased by the CEO or by the president of the company that will get removed if they don't, is had by the balls of these companies like BlackRock and Vanguard, which is very much so intertwined with these elite families like the Rockefeller family. And one thing Interesting. Yeah. We won't even go there. Let's, let's go ahead and pull this up and we'll listen to this and then we'll talk about that. Here we go. Here's the questionable things that Kanye West said that I don't agree with, right. I think that you have to separate it from the everyday Jewish individual and family and you know, even religion in general from. The way that he's talking about these things in some aspects, but majority of what he talked about was not that majority of what he talked about was about the people who owned the contracts, the Black Rocks, the Vanguards, the JP Morgan Chase's, the Rockefellers, all of that. But let's, let's go ahead and listen to this here, But, um, um, but it can't, it can't be narrowed down to, like you're saying, there's, you're saying Jewish media, but it's the media. There's, there's, there's people obviously in, in, I'm not narrowing down. I want Jewish children to look at they daddy and say, Why is Jay mad at. Hm. I want all the kids that love my shoes and love my songs to say, Why is ye mad? What have you done to his people? To the darker juice to our brothers, right? That has Jay speaking up, that had Nick Cannon speak up. Ice Q speaking up. What'd you say? Would you say Blacks is Jews? Blacks are Jews. Also, we gotta say we love Jewish people then we love Jewish people. We love, dude, we got great, we, I love Jews. People, okay, so I'm gonna be like my homie's a Nicaragua Jew. His dad came from Poland, escaped the Holocaust. Holocaust. His mom is Nicaragua. All right, so I'm gonna stop that before we get to this next point, because the next thing he says is quite interesting. But it, you know, the thing that he says there is, I want Jewish children to go to their dad and go, Why is ye mad at us? Why is Kanye West mad at our community for these things? And the reason, and he says it, and he points it out at specific times of the conversation that he's generally not speaking about them. But this was a very untact way to talk about this. And yeah, it's wrong. Don't do that. That's, it's not the way to approach this conversation. If you want to call out the elite communities, if you want to call out the entertainment industry, if you want to call out Disney, you want to call out the, the owners of your contracts. It's not the local guy down the street wearing a yamaka, doing all of the right things and being a good father and being a good husband. It's not who it is there. There's far more people in the Jewish community who are unbelievably great people that have the best of intentions that are, you know, very nice and pleasant to be around and, and not screwing over Kanye in contract agreements. . I think that's very, very easy to say. Right. So yeah, don't say that that's wrong, but the PR prime predominant point of what YE was making here in not that point was what I was talking about before. Now the next point that he makes here, and, and again, that's probably one of the only things that he said that I found to be questionable about the Jewish community. Literally probably one of the only things that he said, and the point remains the same. He believes that the Jewish community at large is so glued together, is so strong as a community that later on he says, I'm so jealous of them. I wish the black community was as strong as the, the Jewish community. I wish that we just did business with each other when we could. I wish that we raised up and, and helped to, you know, helped each other in need. He wishes that his community was more like them because it's an amazing community who's very glued together. Some would say if it was the Christian White community that was doing those same things, it might be considered, I don't know, maybe not. Maybe if it was just white people in general that stuck together, only did business with each other, you know, only propped up their communities, didn't give money elsewhere, didn't do those things that he's alleging that they do and screwed over other communities on contracts as he alleged. Yeah, maybe that would be considered not okay if it was just the white community. So when he says, you know, I wish our black community would do the same thing, does he wish that all white communities would act in that way if white people in general only did business with each other, only supported white businesses, only helped white people because of the color of their skin? I think that's inherent. Not. Okay. And I think that's the point of what he's making here, is that if it was just white people doing that to each other, maybe not what he's making, but what I'm making is that if it was just white people doing the same thing where they only helped people in their communities as he's alleging where they only did business with each other, where they only gave loans to each other, where they, where they, you know, in the ways that they interacted with other communities, utilize them and as a tool to profit, um, then maybe we would be having a different discussion here. Maybe . So let's go ahead and listen to this next point that he makes, because again, while a little, uh, exaggerated and a little, a lot exaggerated, the point remains the same in what he says here. Um, and we'll, we'll listen to that. You'll be like, I don't know what's going on. And by the way, we haven't escaped the Holocaust. We still in it Plan B, Planned Parenthood. We are still in the Holocaust. Even the, even the information put in our music, the toxicity put in our music. Mm-hmm.  is nothing promoting the idea of a king, taking care of a queen, and then taking care of the future kings and the future queens. It's just us talking about killing each other and Jewish people getting paid off of it. Okay. So there's a couple points there that I wanna talk about. The first one being he says that we're not out of the Holocaust. Now the Holocaust is a term that's specifically used for this timeframe. Jewish people were unbelievably eradicated at, at very high rates over sentiments that their culture was, you know, as age as a whole was to be eradicated based off of their belief systems, not based off of the way that they developed and used contracts. Um, so  a little bit different in the sentiment, and that's what I think you have to differentiate here, is is this antisemitic in the way that he's approaching their religion? No, he's, he's talking about the way that the, the community, the, the highest up of the community interact at large in these contract negotiations. Um, so let's, let's make that differentiation now when he uses the word Holocaust and relates it to plan B and relates it to Planned Parenthood, he has a very, very good point. Okay. When Kanye West calls, Plan B and Planned Parenthood, he makes an a very good point. Now, using the word holocaust for that is very, again, maybe a little untact, but the point remains the same, you know? And, and I don't know, may, let me look that up. Let's, let's see the definition of that, because I, I wonder if it's, let's, let's see. I, I don't know specifically if that's used to describe the event in general. Yeah. It's used to describe the event in general. So maybe don't, don't do that. And don't compare it to that, because there are two horrific things. Oh, wait, no, it's not. No, it's not. The very first definition of Holocaust is great destruction resulting in the extensive loss of life, especially by fire, which, ugh, that's horrible. So that's the definition, The very first definition, the secondary definition, uh, is the genocide of European Jews. The third definition is a massive slaughter. So used correctly ye used holocaust correctly in describing Plan B and describing Planned Parenthood, We have talked about this before. You go back to where Planned Parenthood comes from. Was Margaret Singer. She was the, the predominant force in pushing it across the country, and she was a Nazi loving or Nazi or KKK loving racist. Okay. She was for the eradication of the, the very weeds of our community. If you can go listen to the quotes of what she said about it, it was a racist move that she was trying to eradicate specific races in lower income communities. And black people are predominantly, predominantly at much higher rates affected by Prime Parenthood, affected by abortion, affected by Plan B, unfortunately. And so what his point is there, a massive slaughter. As the definition of Holocaust is correct, there, there is a massive slaughter of black children potential, uh, potentially being eradicated as a result of not, potentially is absolutely not being brought to this earth as a result of plan's. Parenthood, abortion is absolutely a massive slaughter on the black community, and it is predominantly affecting minority communities, and that's what he's speaking to. Again, this is what I'm talking about, the trickles of truth through the ways that he's saying these things, in these explosive manners. There's merit to a lot of it. Not all of it, but a lot of it. And this is one of those things, you know, he, he calls it the Holocaust, right? A Holocaust, Not the Holocaust. The Holocaust is how it's used when you're talking about, um, the Nazis during World War ii. But he makes a great point here, and this is something that should be talked about in the black community that they, they shouldn't be at the highest rates of abortion shouldn't be minority. Because what is that doing that's furthering, furthering you being the literal word minority? Who knows, If you go back and look at the statistics, they may not be considered a statistical minority if abortion wasn't a thing. And that keeps the, the, the white communities that keeps the, you know, all of these, you know, whatever you want to call it, against. On the opposite side of that, that are the lower affected communities, including white communities that are not as affected at higher rates as the majority, the majority community that's out there. And, and, and there are people in power who potentially and what we've seen here do not want that to be. And so he makes a great point here. Now, another great point that he makes is when we go on to talk about the black vote, talking about Candace Owens talking about some of these other things here. So let's go ahead and listen to that and we will discuss that as well. Cause if they're, once they cancel four SoFi stadiums because of what's classified as wrong, think right? Because you have group think, right? It is very important.  to have the black vote be in group think and to not separate from the thought and be in completely in line with the agenda of the left. The Jewish media and the Chinese, that's a lot of Chinese things got something to do with it. They got something to do with everything. This is my issue with Jared Kushner say, Okay, now we made a couple of really deep points there as well. He talks about the black vote. Do you remember what Joe Biden. If you don't vote for Joe, Joe Biden, if you don't, Jo . Wow. Why is that hard to say? If you don't vote for Joe Biden, then you ain't black. That's what he said. He literally called this out to a t. Joe Biden specifically said that you're not even black if you don't vote for me, because we have a black vote. There is a community that we need to persuade and, and, and predominantly within the black community, if you are a Republican or a conservative black individual, yeah. You're gonna have a, a, be criticized at a much higher rate than others. Just look at Candice Owens, right? You see that all of the time. And look at the way that Kanye had to deal with these things when he was a supporting Trump. There's absolutely that deeper point that, that he just made. That's very, very deep that the black community could definitely profit, you know, socially from understanding that they shouldn't be manipulated in this way. They shouldn't be manipulated in a way that makes them feel like they have to vote for a specific party. Or else you ain't black according to Joe Biden. And then he even says that, you know, 96% of the black women voted for Joe Biden because of Kamala Harris, 96%. Can you find that in any other community that they're split in that way specifically just because somebody of, of their, you know, skin color ran? I don't think so. It's crazy how much that that group think has been, been pushed and, and, and weaponized by the liberal agenda that you have to think this way. And Joe Biden called it out to them specifically in a very racist way. If you don't vote for me, then you ain't. Because you have to vote for me because we have structured it in a way socially that doing so is social suicide. And that's why they started to call Kanye crazy is because he started moving people over to the Republican party and conservatives over to the Republican party. And I think that's an amazing point about what's about to happen right before the midterms is Kanye is building a movement. A movement around the idea that this does not have to be the way. You do not have to vote liberal, you don't have to vote left, you don't have to vote for Joe Biden. And even if you don't, you're still black, you still have the same skin color, you still belong to the same communities and it has nothing to do with the fact that you voted for one way or another. And you actually are supposed to have your own individual thoughts, not based on your skin color, social beliefs, or whatever. You can own your own ideas regardless of what your skin color is and who you wanna vote for and what you believe about these social topic. Right, but that's not, that's not easy or that's not good for their party, right? That they will have such a difficult time winning anything if the black party, the black vote as they called it here, understands that you don't have to be 96% to the liberal party. If you're black, you can, you can vote for whoever you want. It's okay. You don't have to make those decisions based off of your skin color or just because, you know, And I get it, you know, there's never been a black woman as vice president. That's awesome. There was Barack Obama, um, you know, two presidencies ago. Uh, but. You know that, that, that should be propagated, but in the right way for the right reasons, right? Because that's an intelligent individual who represents your belief systems, not just specifically as, as he said here, only, you know, in that portion of the interview that said 96% of them voted for her. You know, what did he say? He, he said, You would've thought Beyonce was running . You would've thought Beyonce was running based off the statistics. Um, it's pretty crazy. So he makes a very good point there. Now the next one that I wanna look at here is the next portion of that. Let's go ahead and re-listen to it cuz it's such a quick little clip. Um, and we'll talk about the secondary point that he made. Cause if. The black vote, be in group think and to not separate from the thought and be in completely in line with the agenda of the left, the Jewish media and the Chinese. Now he calls out the Chinese specifically there, which is interesting. You know, a lot of people say, you know, even Donald Trump said China Joe. You look at all the business deals that were done through the energy companies that Hunter Biden was a part of, right? Saying that this is intertwined. And something even more interesting, maybe not more interesting, but we'll talk about in a second, is that Kanye West calls out the fact that the Clinton party, the Clinton family was on a Zoom call with Kim Kardashian, Chrisy, Teagan, all of these famous celebrities, literally pushing the fact that you need to push the vaccine, which we'll look at in that Chris Cuomo interview. Uh, but the other thing that he says here is that we're being told, you know, we're being pushed out in these social, these entertainment ways that push us towards believing that we should, you know, make it. , our communities at large, you know, from our music industry, from whatever it is, a part of the entertainment that you would think that we shouldn't be pushing for, you know, the, the, the cohesive family unit that, you know, he, So let's, let's just see what he says about it. So I'm not wrong because if they, once they cancel four SoFi stadiums of the left, the Jewish media and the Chinese, that's, a lot of Chinese things got something to do with it. They got something to do with everything. This is my issue with Jared Kushner say, Okay, so we didn't say there. Maybe I'm confusing that with another one. Uh, I think maybe it was this one. Let. But, um, um, but it can't, it can't be narrowed down to, like you're saying, there's, you're saying Jewish because if they're, once they cancel four SoFi stadiums because of what's classified as wrong think. But, um, um, but it can't, it can't be narrowed down to, like you're saying, toxicity, putting our music. Mm-hmm. , it's nothing promoting the idea of a king, taking care of a queen and then taking care of the future kings and a future queens. It's just us talking about killing each other and Jewish people getting paid off of it. Hmm. So there you go. Talking about how the entertainment that's pushed towards this, this community at large is stuff that's generally toxic to the family, generally toxic to the culture. Um, and is being propped up, you know, by the people who are writing the contract. The 50% maybe that he's alluding to, According to him, 50% haven't done all the research there, which is probably important research to do. So do that and get back to me. Uh, but let's go ahead and see here where he says, and you say you can't be mad at them cuz you wanna do the same. You know, I, you know what, That's, that's an important thing to say. I can't be, but I am cuz I'm jealous cuz I'm a human being and you want the same, And I'm a competitor. I want my people to rise up like the Jewish people. I'm a competitor. I feel that if I am not the leader, I'm one of the strongest, most vocal leaders and I feel Lauren is the leader. I feel like this. Multiple people that are leaders in this community, right? And I'm jealous of the Jewish community. I'm jealous of how the fact that they do not abort their people. I'm jealous of how the fact, So they say that opposed to saying, coming, Lemme it bro, this is coming now. It's coming out. Lemme say you have to get to it. I'm jealous. I'm jealous of the fact of how they don't abort their babies. I'm jealous of the fact of how they stay with their wives. I'm jealous of the fact of how they do business together. I'm jealous of the fact of how they read their contracts and understand their contracts. I'm jealous of the fact, I'm jealous of the way. Uh, Jewish people do business, and I'm jealous, not just for me, but for our entire culture. And I believe that once we rise up, that we will have a position to be able to serve God. Because it's not about taking over the world. God runs the world. We need to be in service to God and we all need to be in service to God. So I'm jealous. And you know what? Because when I would speak on the, the call and Drake record, why I speak on that outta jealousy when I was speaking on Drake, Why I speak on that outta jealousy while I'm speaking on the Jewish culture, While I'm speaking on that outta jealousy, I'm jealous of the Jewish culture. No, I said, I just thought of that right now. Shit. But it had to happen. . That's a breakthrough. That's a breakthrough, but that's why it's gonna win a. So a little bit more insight. You're not gonna see that clip anywhere, are you? The fact that Kanye West is saying that he's jealous of the Jewish community and not, and, and that's where his, you know, the things that he's saying are coming from. Now, obviously he's not saying positive things about the way that they deal with the contracts that he's interacted with, some of the people within the entertainment industry, but there you go. All right, Now let's go ahead and watch the, uh, Cuomo interview and then we will wrap it up. Chris Cuomo had him on his show, and you will see a completely different tonality, a completely different body language, everything compared to what we saw originally. So let's go watch this here and then we'll wrap it up. Here we go, right to vote. You realize when I wore a red hat that I, my life was threatened, I know by my Jewish managers, by my, by my Jewish. By my Jewish accountant. Your lawyer, your friends threatened your life in the streets, like by No. You said not, Not specifically the accountant, but there were many people who threatened my life. Also, my family was torn apart, off of my political opinion because of my ex-wife's attachment to the Clinton, uh, administration. I mean, they were getting my ex-wife to push the vaccination. I didn't realize how attached they were to the left agenda when I was there. Vaccinations, they were not a left agenda. Yeah. Okay. I understand. Okay. Not specifically the, the vaccinations. Vaccinations are a left agenda, Chris. Absolutely. Look at the statistics, look at the amount of people from left to right. It's absolutely a political divide in the way that people view vaccinations. It's absolutely a politically charged conversation. It's absolutely go look at Fox compared to cnn, although that's not a great example of it, but go look at that because Fox was compromised too, as we found out. But go look at that. It's absolutely a political conversation. It is absolutely a part of the liberal agenda. It's absolutely, you know, the, the liberal, uh, politicians who are sitting there eating their, oh, their cheeseburgers and mm french fries. Oh man, this is so delicious. Go, go en gorge yourself with food and get a free vaccination. At the same time, these disgusting people who are pushing these things that now we understand at a 4% rate, people are getting boosted, boosted boosters, booster shots, and even booster shots. Wrong additional shots of these mRNA, you know, things. So anyways, It's absolutely a political conversation. And the fact that he just said that Kim Kardashian, and at other points, Chrissy Teagan and all of these other very elite actors were on Zoom calls being told to push the vaccination by somebody who is not even in office. Hmm. I wonder why the Clinton Foundation or the Clinton family would be pushing that even when they're not in office. And why would you, even if you are in office, go to celebrities and have 'em on Zoom calls and tell them to go push medical pharmaceutical products onto their followers and utilize their influence to profit pharmaceutical companies who have, Oh, by the way, no backlash, no legal recourse if these things go

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This is Tell Me What To Read, the podcast of Booktopia, Australia's Local Bookstore. This week, we sit down with Christian White, author of Wild Place, Jaclyn Moriarty, author of The Astonishing Chronicles of Oscar from Elsewhere, and Lisa Wilkinson, author of It Wasn't Meant To Be Like This. *Producer's Note: Due to our team being in social isolation, the sound quality is more variable. Interviews In this podcast: Christian White - Wild Place: 0:51 - 22:12 Jaclyn Moriarty - The Astonishing Chronicles of Oscar from Elsewhere: 22:23 - 45:30 Lisa Wilkinson - It Wasn't Meant To Be Like This: 45:37 - 1:16:44 Books mentioned in this podcast: Christian White - Wild Place: https://bit.ly/3johxBr Jaclyn Moriarty - The Astonishing Chronicles of Oscar from Elsewhere: https://bit.ly/30TxGsD Lisa Wilkinson - It Wasn't Meant To Be Like This: https://bit.ly/3johxBr Host: Mark Harding Interviewer: Ben Hunter, Sarah McDuling & Stefania Capogna Guests: Christian White, Jaclyn Moriarty & Lisa Wilkinson Producer: Nick Wasiliev Season: 1.7 Episode: 7 Join us for our bi-weekly show with episodes going out every Wednesday and Friday! Join us on Wednesdays as we speak to authors from Australia and around the world about their latest books, and hit us up on Fridays for the books that we are reading and recommending! Originally published: 23rd November 2021See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Christian White is an Australian author, screenwriter, and producer whose award-winning first novel, the nail-biting suspense story, The Nowhere Child, has already attracted a major screen deal. Hi there, I'm your host Jenny Wheeler, and today Christian White talks about his latest psychological thriller, Wild Place, which raises the question as old as time itself – why do good people do bad things? He also talks about his screen writing, including co-writing the hit Netflix show Clickbait, which went to No 1 in 41 countries. Links to this episode: Clickbait Netflix trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwVLObz0MGs Wild Place: https://www.christian-white.com/wild-place Director P.T. (Paul Thomas) Anderson: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000759/ Pentecostal snake handling: https://www.ranker.com/list/history-of-pentecostal-snake-handling/quinn-armstrong West Memphis 3: https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/west-memphis-three-3039/ The Nowhere Child: https://www.christian-white.com/the-nowhere-child The Wife And The Widow: https://www.christian-white.com/the-wife-and-the-widow Relic the movie: https://www.christian-white.com/relic-1 J.P.Pomare: https://www.jppomare.com/ Anna Downes:  https://anna-downes.com/ Stephen King; https://stephenking.com/ Gillian Flynn: https://www.gillian-flynn.com/ Harlan Coben: https://www.harlancoben.com/ Alex Garland: https://www.goodreads.com/author/list/5684.Alex_Garland The Beach by Alex Garland  https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/607639.The_Beach Haruki Murakami: https://www.harukimurakami.com/ Don Winslow: https://www.donwinslow.com/ Where to find Christian White:  Website: https://www.christian-white.com/ Email Direct: on his website form Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/list/6872386.Christian_White Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Christian-White/e/B07FZZNLPZ What follows is a "near as" transcript of our conversation, not word for word but pretty close to it, with links to important mentions. A Sherlock Holmes Mystery Giveaway Mrs Holmes' doubtful past brings the family into danger.... Download Liese Sherwood-Fabre's Sherlock mystery We've got a delightful giveaway. Liese Sherwood-Fabre's Sherlock Holmes spinoff, Case One: The Adventure of the Murdered Midwife. Before Sherlock Holmes became the world's greatest consulting detective, scandal rocked the Holmes family. Yes, that's right. Liese knows all about what happened before Sherlock Holmes became Sherlock Holmes. Sherlock is called home from Eton by his father for a family emergency. Their mother is being accused of murder. It's a giveaway free for all. Details for this limited time offer free downloadable giveaway can be found in the show notes for this Christian White episode, on the website www.thejoysofbingereading.com. DOWNLOAD SHERLOCK STORY Don't forget you can get exclusive bonus content – like hearing Christian's answers to the Getting-to-Know-You Five Quickfire Questions – by becoming a Binge Reading on Patreon supporter for the cost of less than a cup of coffee a month. Details at www.patreon.com/thejoysofbingereading.com . SUPPORT BINGE READING ON PATREON What follows is a "near as" transcript of our conversation, not word for word but pretty close to it, with links to the show notes in The Joys of Binge Reading.com for important mentions. But now, here's Christian. Introducing thriller author and screen writer Christian White Jenny Wheeler: Hello there Christian, and welcome to the show. It's great to have you with us. Christian White: Hello. Thanks for having me. It's exciting.  Christian White - thriller author and screen writer Jenny Wheeler: You're in Melbourne, aren't you? We will just establish that for our listeners. Christian White: Yes, I'm in Melbourne. It is extraordinarily hot today, so it's good that this doesn't have video because you'd see sweat stains and a sweaty fo...

It is the last day of Black History Month in America. Here at Edelman our theme has been Joy-full: Manifesting Wellness and Unity with programming that has prioritized self-care and community along with personal and financial health. As a bonus episode for this month, Dani Jackson-Smith talks with Dr. Jason Chambers author of Madison Avenue and the Color Line: African Americans in the Advertising Industry about the importance of understanding history.    TRANSCRIPT Dani Jackson Smith [00:00:01] It's all you are at work after hours and back at home exploring every layer, finding out what makes you uniquely you and letting that shine back out into the world. It's authentic 365, a podcast that takes a glimpse into how some of the most inspiring people among us express themselves and make magic happen. I'm your host. Danny Jackson Smith, VP at Edelman by day, community enthusiast and lover of the people always. Its the last day of Black History Month in America, and here at Edelman, our theme has been Joy-full: Manifesting Wellness and Unity with programing that has prioritized self-care and community, along with personal and financial health. As a bonus episode for this month, I'll be talking with Dr. Jason Chambers, author of Madison Avenue and the Color Line African-Americans in the Advertising Industry and note, he is also my former professor at the University of Illinois. Dr. Chambers, let's start with this Where are you from? Dr. Jason Chambers [00:01:02] I am originally from Central Ohio, a small town named London, Ohio, which probably most people have never heard of. But it's about 20 minutes outside Columbus, so it's almost right smack dab in the center of the Great State of Ohio. Dani Jackson Smith [00:01:14] When did you first start getting passionate about advertising? Dr. Jason Chambers [00:01:18] You know, I'm one of those weird people who always kind of paid attention to advertising. I can remember watching it, watching commercials on Saturday mornings in-between cartoons, back when kids still did such a thing. So I've always kind of had an interest in advertising. I've always been one who kind of paid attention to advertising. I always I grew up in the last heyday of the jingle, the advertising jingle. So I've always liked advertising in some form, some form or fashion, even from a very young age. Dani Jackson Smith [00:01:48] OK, so at what point did you say or begin to shift this passion for advertising into really digging into the history of advertising? Dr. Jason Chambers [00:01:58] That was something for me that came in graduate school. I'd always had an interest in media. For example, I edited a Black newspaper, Black student newspaper when I was an undergraduate, so I was always going to go either. You know, I was always going to be in some way shape or form connected to media, whether it was going to be journalism, whether it was going to be advertising, whether it was going to be something in the realm of of production. So I'd always had an interest in media. But I went to when I went to graduate school to get an advanced degree, advanced degrees in history. It really was a set of classes that I took that studied consumers and studied the way that people had evolved as consumers. And I combine that with an interest, a growing interest then of studying the history and the story of African-American business enterprises, African-American as business owners and a variety of industries, or African-Americans, as high level employees, executives and a variety of industries, so that the various things media and advertising and business, those interests kind of all came together into a study of African-Americans' participation in the advertising industry. What we have been able to do as business owners, as high level employees, how we had or had not been able to matriculate in the advertising industry. Those are those things all came together at that point. Dani Jackson Smith [00:03:18] And what really stood out for you in the research that was that you were beginning to do at the graduate level? Dr. Jason Chambers [00:03:26] I think the things that stood out for me, perhaps not so not so much in a good way, is the way that our story in advertising had really been obscured or ignored or overlooked. One of the things about history that you learn is that it's not that stories don't exist, it's that stories just haven't been told or stories just haven't been known. And so for much of advertising history, for much of advertising story was really a story of White men. We didn't even really, this is back in the 1990s, early 2000s, I got my Ph.D. in 2001, so I'm in graduate school in the 1990s. Back then, we didn't even really consider the story of women. It was still rare to consider the story of women White, Black or otherwise in advertising. So advertising was very much a story of what what had White men done in concert with other White men. So White men on the advertising agency side of things and White men on the client side of things, how the two of the two of those groups come together to form the relationship that we've come to know between advertising agencies and clients. So even in the landscape of women, we might have winch and one woman's name. If you'd studied advertising extent, the story of advertising extensively, maybe you heard the name of Helen Reese, or maybe you you'd heard the name of Mary Wells Lawrence. But other than that, you didn't get any story of the role of women in advertising that had been overlooked or not really told at that time. And certainly a company that would have been the story of African-Americans. And so based upon what I knew of African-American history, I can say with confidence that confidence that there is virtually no industry, none whatsoever. There is no industry in America that African-Americans have at least not tried to enter in some way, shape or form. You can't find one. Now, whether or not we were able to do so, whether or not we were able to be successful in doing so, that's a whole other question that's getting into the details. But in terms of whether or not we tried to be in advertising or whether or not we had tried to be in a particular industry, I knew that there had to be a story there and I wanted to find that out because even even if we were absent from the industry, let's just say the the stories of African-American absence and advertising were correct, then I felt that there had to be a story there as to why we had been absent. Why hadn't we've been able to operate in the area of advertising? Why had we perhaps chosen not to try to operate in the area of advertising? Because the the history of African-Americans in newspapers, the you know, that original form of print media, the stories of African-American newspapers go back as far as there's almost as far as there's been anything worthy of calling it the United States of America. So if we'd been in newspapers and it doesn't take a genius to see, you didn't have to be a genius publisher or editor to see the value of advertising dollars to your newspaper, then there had to be some. I knew there had to be have had to have been some effort for African-Americans to get into advertising. And I wanted to and I wanted to know what happened. Dani Jackson Smith [00:06:31] I am over here smiling because I remember sitting in your advertising history class as well as your race and ethnicity class at the University of Illinois and just learning so much. What was the journey like starting those classes? Dr. Jason Chambers [00:06:47] The advertising history class had been there even before I had arrived. That had been something that had been in some way shape or form, part and parcel of the of the department. Even, you know, almost from the very beginning, when it was founded by Charles Standage, the race class was a little bit different because the race and ethnicity class. Even back then, you know, you're still having to assemble a lot of, you know, disparate materials because, you know, we didn't have really an extensive there's not really an extensive historiography or is not really an extensive area of academic study that that it tried to capture the story of race and ethnicity, its connection to advertising, the role of African-American consumers, the role of consumers of any race or ethnicity. So trying to capture that and encapsulated into a class it and make it make sense, it was challenging. It's gotten it's gotten subsequently easier over the years. But you know, our respect for the industry's respect for consumers of various races and ethnicities is something that has ebbed and flowed over the years and depending upon how it's either ebbing or flowing, dictates the level of resources. In some way, shape or form dictates the level of resources that are available to use for instruction in some ways. Dani Jackson Smith [00:08:03] What year was it when you when you taught that class the first time? Dr. Jason Chambers [00:08:06] That would have probably been around 2006, 2007. Dani Jackson Smith [00:08:09] When I think about that class, which I still have the course packet for and I use as a reference and a resource. I think about then the journey to you as an author and the publishing of your book Madison Avenue and the Color Line, which I believe was three years later in 2009. Is that correct? That's correct. I'm thinking about what you just shared, you know, the lack of resource and a lack of information there. And how did you see creating Madison Avenue and the color line filling that gap? Dr. Jason Chambers [00:08:43] That's an excellent way to put it Dani, because that's exactly how I saw it was filling that gap because of the resources that were available that that purported to tell the story of advertising, you know, the books like the mirror makers or Soap Sex and Cigarets or a variety of other titles. And there aren't that many, but even the ones that tried to purport to tell the story of advertising in the United States of America, we were at best the story of African-Americans was at best a few paragraphs or, if we were lucky, a few pages. And so I saw myself as filling that gap to provide the story of, you know, African-American participation, to go back to the nineteen teens and see those first efforts of African-Americans attempting to combine a respect for a respect and a respectful treatment of African-Americans as consumers, but also to combine those with business enterprises. Because after all, advertising is a business to make money. But going back to the nineteen teens for people like a gentleman out of actually out of Chicago, Claude Barnett, who who one of his first forays into business was to try to run an advertising agency such, you know, loosely defined. Not something that we perhaps recognized this as an agency today, but, you know, the creation of artwork, creation of copy and and the placement of same for various businesses. So, you know, looking at his letters and his efforts to interest businesses around the country in, you know, targeting African-Americans as consumers and then obviously utilizing his agency in his own kind of knowledge of media and its knowledge of advertising to be able to do so. And so there are there are many stories like that from that 19-teens period forward African-American striving to found agencies or African-American striving to use their own expertise or interests and being artists or writers to find a place for themselves, musicians as well. To find a place for themselves in advertising. And so you know that book covers, you know, those various stories and so people whose names had otherwise been kind of lost to history. Claude Barnett at Branford and David Sullivan and and many others to tell the story of what they had had, what they had to endure to try to get into advertising, to try to impact and change the advertising industry, to try to impact and change out treated or even perceived of African-American consumers to get rid of some of the derogatory and stereotypical negative imagery connecting the advertising industry, connecting the civil rights movement to the advertising industry and things of that nature. And so that book does kind of all of those things in ways that no other source had done to that time. And so I really did see it and do see it. Still, even you know where we at 13 years later, I still see it in that way because as a as a resource, it still functions in that way because many of those names still aren't, you know, still aren't as widely known as I would, as I would prefer. Dani Jackson Smith [00:11:49] I think that's an amazing point because, you know, while we may know the Tom Burrell's or the Carol Williams, there's so much about our history, in particular our advertising history that many of us don't know because maybe we didn't have to take that class in school. Or, you know, it's not a priority on the journey, but it is really vital when we think about the work that we do moving forward. So before I go into talking about the work, let's take a pause to talk about authenticity, right? Because I think it's something really special about the connection between history, preserving history. And then, like you said, your your your passion that you've carried throughout to where you are today. And there is a through line there that I would like to explore around your passions and how that's carried through today. And maybe how that ladders up to maybe how you perceive or define authenticity for yourself. Dr. Jason Chambers [00:12:49] I heard it as described as an African proverb. Perhaps others have heard it described differently than that's fine when it comes to these types of things. But it's the proverb of only when the Lions have historians will the hunters cease to be heroes. And for me, that is an absolute truism of advertising. Advertising is the story told according to the people who are in power at the time. The people who are who are in power because they have the money or they have the time, or they have the resources to tell a particular story. And when it came or interested, even in telling a particular story. And so when it comes to the story of advertising for far too long, it's been the story of essentially of the genius of White men. And that is a it's it's simply incorrect. It, as I said earlier, it overlooks the role of women. It overlooks the role of racial minorities that overlooks the role of people of different gender identities, of people, of people of different sexual orientations like much but like much of our history, and it is exactly that much of our stories in a variety of categories. It is exactly that. And so it is it is an inauthentic telling of what happened. Right? It's a telling of a particular point of view. Again, the genius of White men. But it's an incorrect point of view, and it's a it's a point of view that damages everybody else, but it also damages them because, you know, it essentially says it leads them to from our own present time in twenty twenty twenty two to look back and consider that there was a point in the world in which, well, White men were simply masters of the universe, and that time just needs to come again. No, you weren't. And you never have been. That's the story that you've told yourself, and that's the story that's been replicated. But it's been done so because it has allowed you to overlook all of the contributions of everybody else that you'd rather ignore right to to hail your own genius and to justify your own continued positions of power. So it's an it's an inauthentic representation of what happened, but it's one that far too many people still want to celebrate the facts of history, not the story of history, but the fact of history don't bear that out, but you nevertheless want to continue to celebrate this inauthentic ideal. Again, much to your own detriment, let alone the detriment of the rest of the country. And so my my own purpose and my own role in this, as I see it, is to bring that authenticity, to bring those facts to light. And then we could we can encounter the facts and we can discuss the facts later. But to encounter them rather than to ignore them, I believe, is my role and really my my greatest contribution. Dani Jackson Smith [00:15:30] And how does that also play out? Let's say, like if you had to say, Hey, here's how I define authenticity. How would you define authenticity? Dr. Jason Chambers [00:15:39] I define authenticity as the truth, regardless of the consequences. The facts, regardless of the consequences. Telling the story of African-Americans in advertising, for example, doesn't mean that it's a story of un of unparalleled celebration. There's been fits, there's been starts, there's been successes, there's been failures. There's some places where things could have been done better, been done differently. But authenticity requires that. That truth telling it in it requires encountering both the the victories, as well as the failures of all of our various stories and looking at how they combine together into the tapestry that is, you know, that is America, that, you know, that is advertising in the United States of America. So I define authenticity as a way of centralizing truths. Right. And it's not individually defined Dani Jackson Smith [00:16:32] in your journey to live authentically and put out authentic work. What type of challenges have you come across? Dr. Jason Chambers [00:16:40] I think the biggest challenge is disbelief, right? Disbelief that that there actually was a people don't often don't often think that things that they haven't heard of must be can't be true or to say it a little bit more elegantly. We normalize that which we've been taught and anything that stands outside of that, which we've been taught. We put a certain filter on or people have a tendency to put a certain filter on to say, Well, that can't be true, because if it was true, then that's what I would have been taught. Well, no, not necessarily. And because then we get into the politics of storytelling, we get into the politics of history because those things, you know, those things are there as well. You know, we we strive for objectivity, but there really is no such. There really is no such thing because there's a there's a subjectivity in the questions that you even ask. There's a there's a subjectivity in the the resources that you choose to highlight, even as even as a writer. And so I think the, you know, one of those biggest things is has been again, that area of disbelief that that the African-American contribution could have been that great because people will say, Well, if it had been that great, then why haven't we talked about it more than White? Why haven't African-Americans be, you know, created greater and larger agencies? And why have there only been so few African-American CEOs of major agencies? Well, then we can get into. Well, I'm glad you asked. Now let's talk about racism and racist policies. And that's where that's where people hold their hand up and says, say, well, well, well, hold on a second. That's that's where I that's where I get off. And and my response has been, if you want to encounter the truth of the advertising industry, then you have to encounter the central truth that it is an industry that was founded and exclusion. It is an industry that was founded on keeping people out. Right. That's what Dr. Kennedy means when he talks about the idea of a person can be doesn't have to be racist to practice the practice and support racist policies. And as an industry, advertising has long been filled with racist policies that have been replicated without for a long time, without much question. Dani Jackson Smith [00:18:58] Now when we talk about, you know, responsibility who is responsible for ensuring that history is told correctly, Dr. Jason Chambers [00:19:09] Ultimately, I think it's I think it's all of us. But I have also been one who has said that as an African-American, as an African-American storyteller, if, if, if I want our stories out there, then I have to participate in their telling. Does that mean it can be only African-Americans who tell African-American stories or women who tell women's stories? Men who tell men's stories would have, you know, absolutely not. But I always felt a special responsibility to do so because I knew about so many of the distortions of history that were connected to African-Americans. You know, I'll give you a big one. You know the story of the happy slave ride that the happy slave, if you if you think about that, the happy and the the singing, the happy singing Darcie that was often used also Houston and for a long time in the advertising industry. But that myth of the Old South. It's such a...I'll refrain from blue language. It's such a lie, right? It is absolutely positively, unquestionably such a lie. But people still use it today. Right, the south, this in the south that it was better. This and it was better that. No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't. Factually, I can demonstrate it factually. No, it wasn't. It might have been better for a few, but I knew that and I know that. But if you're going to get around that and you're going to change that narrative, then you have to have people who are willing to push back against that type of narrative. And I always I always wanted to be one of those historians who pushed back. One of the scholars who pushed back, really. Dani Jackson Smith [00:20:47] I was reading the article that you were in in the Guardian and you say ethnicity is authenticity. Can you explain that? Dr. Jason Chambers [00:20:58] Well, what I meant by that, by that was in that piece, we were talking about the use of stereotypes. We're talking about the use of stereotypes like Aunt Jemima, the the expert Black cook, the happy, whether she was a happy slave or a happy former slave. She was so happy with her, even with her old slave holding family that even after freedom decided to stick around on Masta's Old Plantation and cook breakfast for Masta and his family. And so I said that that image was utilized in things like, you know, Aunt Jemima products or the smiling servants of Uncle Ben's or the smiling servants of Cream of Wheat, among many others. A number of others that were there are no longer sold or have been lost to history for a variety of reasons. But what I was saying in that phrase of ethnicity is authenticity is that stereotypes were used to provide a vision of authenticity of the product. And so if such an expert Black cook as Aunt Jemima offered her recipe of pancake, a pancake making to the, you know, to the Quaker company, for them, for the making of their Aunt Jemima pancake mix, then that image of this ethnic person, this Black woman was used to convey a sense of the authenticity of the product. Right. So the ethnicity itself becomes a marker of authenticity. So it becomes a marker of the truth or the value of the product in question. Dani Jackson Smith [00:22:27] From a historical standpoint, as we know, history repeats itself in certain points. Maybe what you you would see moving forward? Dr. Jason Chambers [00:22:36] I think the way that I would answer that, Dani, is that, you know, time is linear, but people are not right. People have a tendency to ebb and flow, will take two steps forward as we take one step back or two steps, two steps forward and then take three steps back. It's, you know, you liken it to somebody who's who's trying to get in shape, right? You know, we just came out of a few weeks past the new year now and, you know, past the point of, you know, New Year's resolutions, right? When people resolve that, this is going to be the year that they get in shape and they're all in on it for days and maybe weeks. But now as we enter February and you know, we just got 12 inches of snow here in Champaign a couple of days ago. Now we enter the time where it gets really hard. It's not as easy to get to the gym or it's not as easy to keep working out, or it's not as easy to to keep eating right. And so, you know, we maybe have the tendency to slide back into the comfortable. Well, that's what I mean. You know, the calendar has moved linear linearly. We've gone from January to February and life. But as people, we took a few steps in my my example here. We took a few steps forward. We took us a few steps towards getting in shape, but then we took a maybe a step back towards kind of backsliding into my prior behavior of bad eating or or, you know, sleeping in rather than getting up to work out. Well, I think I think the same thing, you know, with advertising, I think people can be and have been people can be earnest in wanting to do different or wanting to see change or wanting to see different voices and and faces and locus of power in front of and behind the camera. But my question is what? What happens when it gets hard? What happens when we're, you know, we're past the energy. And so I think that, you know, those of us who are interested in seeing continue change in this industry, we have to recognize that that there will inevitably be a feeling of, you know, well, we've done enough or we've we've we've tried long enough or we've we've invested enough. And when you know, when that happens, just like the person has to push through, you know, getting up to keep going to the gym, you know, we have to continue to push through and say, No, we haven't done enough. No, a few dollars here or a few months of attention doesn't outweigh, you know, a hundred plus years of racist policies in this industry. You know, something like the advertising industry that you know, the advertising industry. If I can speak about it historically for a moment. You know, we consider the advertising industry to have been born somewhere in the 1880s 1890s, and by that I don't mean that nothing like advertising had been around before. I'm talking about the foundation of agencies, agencies that have roles and offices and things that we might recognize today are copy media placement, what have you. That's a very much an 1880s 1890s kind of phenomenon when we first start to see that. And so as an industry, then we've been around for hundred and forty years. Right? So for the one hundred and forty years, the overwhelming majority of it has been spent with racist policies in place. The overwhelming majority of it has been spent striving to exclude anyone but White men and for a long time for much of that history. I'm talking, we're talking primarily Christian White men. We're the only ones who are welcome to enter. White men who came from exclusive institutions were the only ones that were welcome to do, couldn't be Italian or Jewish or or Greek and get a job, you know, and many agencies until the 1960s, even if you were a White man. So it's been an industry of exclusion for most of its history. That's what it is at its foundation. And so a few months or, you know, a few years can't change that or even a few investments can't change that. Not not overnight, because in historical terms, what we've experienced in the last two years has actually has been overnight. And if we allow ourselves to, you know, take our eye off off of the, you know, the various goals that we have, then I think that we will see a backsliding into traditional actions or to traditional behavior because that's what that's what it's been for most of its history. Dani Jackson Smith [00:26:42] What advice do you give for people to remain authentic, to keep pushing and not be on the sidelines? You know, I'm sure, as you say, like we take one step forward, two steps back. There's this ebb and flow of, you know, maybe people get a little worn out of of staying in the fight or staying at the at the head of keeping things moving forward. So what advice do you give? Dr. Jason Chambers [00:27:06] One of the biggest and best pieces of advice I ever got was to find you, find yourself a support group, find people and they can be in the industry or without. But you find yourself a network or a group of people of people or persons to whom you can vent. A network or a group of persons to whom and with whom you can yourself be. You can be authentic because there is a there is a relief in that right. It's like, Dr. Dubois said, all those many years ago, especially about being African-American and, you know, working in the in the broader White controlled world, which is that one ever feels is Tunis. When you're trying to push back or you're trying to push through policies that have been in place long before you, and many of which, even if they only exist as norms will be and perhaps will be in place after you that will wear you out and you will get the desire to retreat from the fight. Right. And I just I just want to go to work and be OK. I get that. That happens. So, you know, you take your strategic breaks and then, man, you got to get you got to get back in the ring, so to speak, because somebody somebody got in the ring for all of us, somebody got in the ring for me to and stayed in the ring for me to be able to operate in the way that I do in the academy to have a place it somewhere like the University of Illinois. There had been of time, which I wouldn't have been welcome here. There would've been a time which you wouldn't have been welcomed here unless unless we were sweeping and maybe not even then. So, you know, that's what we have to do until there is a time which we have to do it no more. Hmm. Dani Jackson Smith [00:28:42] Yeah. And I'm not good at sweeping, I'm so bad at it, so I think that's just a really good point. You know, in terms of someone opened the door for us, you know, our made the way so that we can be present and staying encouraged, leaning on each other to support each other and keeping the door open and making it, you know, nonexistent for the next group of people that come through. Why do you think learning about the history of advertising specifically around race and ethnicity at the college level before you get into the workplace is important? Dr. Jason Chambers [00:29:20] Oh, that's an excellent question, because I think if if we can establish that such a thing happened then or a variety of things happen, whether it's connected to race or ethnicity, racism, what have you, then when you get out there and you get told these things and when you're in your workaday world just trying to get the job done, I need to get I need to get home myself. Type of environment, then it's not such a surprise. It's not such an uphill struggle for a person to come to understand the impact of racism or a person to understand the value of African-American media, or a person to understand the importance of multiple representations, the importance of people, the importance to people to see themselves respectfully represented. It's it's not. It's not such a heavy weight to try to grapple with because instead of being new to you, it ticks something in your mind that you're like, Wait a minute, I have heard that before and that that that does make sense. It resonates with you in a in a in a way that something that's absolutely new and is asking you to change the way that you're actually doing business. It resonates with you in a different way and allows, I think, people to make change or to at least to accept change or not stand in the way of change, to accept it and in a much more nimble fashion versus something that you've heard for the first time or something that's completely new to you or some group that you'd never been told and you needed to account for or even considered before in a particular product category category, you're being told no, that's that's actually not the case. And so setting that intellectual foundation for people when they don't have necessarily money or time on the line, right, the money up their, you know, their job on the line or the time of doing something extra or doing something new. That, I think is is the value of providing that the people when they have when they're in that point, they're at that point in their life, when hopefully they're, you know, they have the opportunity to, you know, really intellectually grapple with new ideas that college is at least supposed to be for in part. Dani Jackson Smith [00:31:24] What have you seen from incoming students that feels new or feels inspiring or helps you to understand, like, Hey, the industry is changing. Dr. Jason Chambers [00:31:39] I think the biggest thing, Dani, is, you know, if I had to point to a single thing, it would be their acceptance of diversity has changed in the 20 years that I've been here. I started in Illinois in 2001 and the sense of diversity or cross fertilization of ideals that is really broken down is not to say that people don't still group themselves based upon race and based upon ethnicity and other factors, gender identity and the like. It's not to say that that isn't there, but the acceptance of Hey, people want to see representation. It's important to show people of different groups. It's important to show people of different faiths and ethnicities and sexual orientations. The the questioning of that has decreased significantly in the 20 years that I've been here. You know, in a classroom, it doesn't feel like such an it's it's not even doesn't feel it's not such an uphill struggle as it once was to convince people that, hey, there is a value in diversity. It's becoming and it has become more of an accepted part of it and an ideal. So if you if you'll allow kind of an example instead of maybe 15 years ago, a student coming in and I'm trying to talk to them about diversity and diverse representation in media and advertising, and then perhaps having an intellectual attitude of, well, you have to convince me of that now. It's more of a. Well, of course there is. Mm-Hmm. You know, of course, there's a value of courses and importance of representation because, you know, they're they've at least seen more of it. Right. So they don't, you know, they don't look at their, you know, televisions or video screens anymore and only expect to see White people. Right. But it's important for them to understand to me how we got there and what what is preceded where we are. Because without that, there's always the potential for backsliding. Right. So it's important for me to talk to them about the time you know that I was laying. I was laying on my couch, just watching TV on an afternoon in an afternoon and a Lexus commercial came on a commercial for Lexus cars and the couple driving the car was it was a Black man and a Black woman, and I fell off my couch because up to that point and this is only, you know, 20, 25 years ago, up to that point, we had never seen it. You know, they didn't. They didn't use Black people to advertise luxury automobiles. Right? And so then we then we can get into the why and we can and can get into the how we got there and we can get into why that was such an astounding moment just for a person, you know, not even really that much of a scholar at that time. Or at least I wasn't watching TV with scholarly intent, but it was so surprising to me. So what if we can talk about those things and they can understand the moments that preceded the ones that in which we currently exist. Then it's also important for them to see and understand that, hey, you know, again, time is linear, but people aren't. So there's always the potential for us to backslide into prior things that were easy, more comfortable. Maybe we feel make more money, whatever the case may be. Dani Jackson Smith [00:34:50] I love it. I love it. Yeah, I am. As you can say, I'm a I'm a fan. I'm a fan of knowing where you come from so that you can know where you're going, and also just so that you can see different perspectives. And I love that you shared that shift. Right. It seems like, hey, the work isn't as hard to convince people of the need of diversity right now or the value within a classroom. Dr. Jason Chambers [00:35:19] Yeah. And so I think that's well said. And the thing is, if I can give if we can talk about it and encounter it in the classroom, then when you're out there as a decision maker, when you're out there as a person who has power, when you're out there, even as a junior account representative or whatever, a junior client representative and you have to choose an agency or recommend one or, you know, you're in a hiring capacity, you know, then ideally you carry that, you know, that you carry that with you when you do have some measure of power, influence, control, what have you. That you, you know, you can make your make, you know, help help to foster change in your own, you know, your own corner of the universe, if you will. Dani Jackson Smith [00:35:56] How do you balance the workload as a professor? The dedication to, you know, being present and publishing articles, things like that and family life and things of that nature like how do you, you know, round it all out? Dr. Jason Chambers [00:36:14] I think the thing for me over the years, I have learned to compartmentalize and pick a time to turn things off, right? You know, to turn things mentally off, you know, pick pick things that allow me just to, you know, separate out the, you know, the scholarship part or the, you know, the work in the intentional, the story, the storytelling, your fact finding part of me, you know, to just separate that out and not to do it all the time that at some point and in some places, you know, you can't stay immersed in it all the time, you know, or or it will eat you up. Right? It really it really will. And again, to, you know, to find the area where I think my skills are most optimally used and to operate in that area to try to foster and drive change rather than try to operate in every single possible area of the universe. Right. Well, I've got I've got to try to change this and I've got to try to change that and that and that that'll wear you out. And so you can't do all things, you know, all things equally well. And so, you know, I've chosen to, you know, figure out the things that are most important to me, family first and then do those things, you know, the both the the majority of energy to those things and then, you know, divided accordingly, you know, to the other things that are that are important to me as well. Right. But you know, when you when you're younger, you think I have to try to be involved in every potential issue and you just you just can't do that, but you can, but you'll just wear yourself out and find yourself in hospital. Dani Jackson Smith [00:37:46] I think that's very well said because the amount of issues and the complexity of just managing an issue. Can take so much out of you as a person, right? So sometimes you feel like all right. And I definitely agree it is a is the graduating I mean, I'm late 30s now. I'm thirty eight. I just turned 38. So the me 38 versus the me at 21. Trying to understand like, how do you impact the world? How do you create change? How do you stand up for your community and maybe thinking like, OK, I can do it all. I can do, I can be on the front lines and I can tackle, you know, education and oh my goodness, we need to do something about real estate. And we, you know, there are a lot there are a lot of issues here. And I think when we think about systemic racism and the impact of systemic racism, we have to, you know, again, go back to the importance of community. And that's why we tap each other so well. You know, one person may be leading the charge from a real estate equity standpoint. You know, we can stand in this lane and lead the charge in diversity, equity, inclusion from education through time in the workplace, on the advertising side of things. And hopefully, we're in working together. We create a better society, you know, because you can't do it all by yourself. Dr. Jason Chambers [00:39:20] Yeah. No, no, no, absolutely. I think that's very well said. And it's like, OK, some, some sometimes it becomes, you know, how how can I combine an area that I'm, you know, maybe there's a way to combine an area that I'm interested in, you know, with, you know, with my own work. You know, you mentioned real estate a moment ago and I was reading the couple, you know the story and there's been more than one. So you know, the story of the Black couple who had White friends show their house and purport to be owners of their house and the, you know, the valuation of increased by a half million dollars? Right? And so it's it's it becomes, you know, you you want to tackle the financial inequities of things, right? You want it. You want to tackle the, you know, the role of home home ownership and fostering wealth in fostering the ability to build wealth. What have you and stuff like? You know, I as as a historian, you know, well, I want I want to dig into that. I went to that story, to be honest. It's not anything. It's like, Well, that's not really where where I'm at. And so, you know, are there ways to combine that interest with, you know, with advertising and with the way that we show home- with even the depiction that even the depiction of home owners? Right. So, you know, you look for ways to try to tie your interests together, your passions together, I think with your work has been one of the things that I've striven to do. But then at the same time, also find ways in places where it's like, You know what? I'm I'm turning it off, right? And I'm just going to I'm just going to vegge out. And sometimes I just I just think about, you know, a picture that that I keep of Dr. King. And he was shooting pool. And it's like, you know what, even there was even points where Dr. King turned it off and said, Nope, nope. Or at least for these 60 Minutes or whatever. I'm just I'm just thinking about pool. Dani Jackson Smith [00:41:10] I love it, I think that's a perfect way to end, you know, revolutionary civil rights activists or not. Sometimes you have to turn it off and just shoot pool. Yeah, that's it. These are the type of conversations, just real, authentic conversations that help us learn together and grow together. So thank you for sharing. Dr. Jason Chambers [00:41:30] You are quite welcome. I enjoyed the conversation as well. Dani Jackson Smith [00:41:34] And that's a wrap for this episode. Many thanks to you for watching with us. And until next time, keep it authentic all day. Every day. Shout out to our team behind the scenes Faith McIver, Emma Marie MacAfee, Trisch Smith, Denise Busch, Sarah Neil, Pamela Blandon, Emma Dowling, Ryan VandenBosch. Authentic 365 is brought to you by global communications firm Edelman.  

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Author and screenwriter Christian White chats about his new novel Wild Place and his Netflix series Clickbait; Bobby reckons she stuffs up screen auditions; Food enthusiast Michael Harden talks re-opening restaurants and foodie awards; Journalist, author and former Breakfaster Jeff Sparrow explains his new book Crimes Against Nature: Capitalism and Global Heating; Film lover Hayley Inch shares her review of New York-drama Passing, and the team discuss champagne-worthy-and-unworthy occasions. With presenter Sarah Smith, Daniel Burt and Bobby Macumber.Website: https://www.rrr.org.au/explore/programs/breakfasters/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Breakfasters3RRRFM/Twitter: https://twitter.com/breakfastersInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/breakfasters/?hl=en

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It's time for another of our humorously competitive top ten lists! This time Jesper and Autumn go head to head to see who can come up with the worst power to have—you know, the one that makes you think maybe NOT having any magic might not be such a bad thing.

A short, spoiler free review of Netflix's Limited Series, Clickbait, created by Tony Ayers and Christian White. Starring Adrian Grenier, Zoe Kazan, Betty Gabriel, and Phoenix Raei. When family man, Nick Brewer, is kidnapped, online videos surface accusing Nick of horrible crimes. Now with a 5 million view time limit, his family must figure out the truth behind the online videos. Rated: TV-MA Review: ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️1/2 Time: 59 min episodes, 8 episode max Viewable on: Netflix

July 2021 marks risk3sixty's 5-year anniversary. To celebrate, Christian Hyatt and Christian White talk about their journey and where risk3sixty is headed next. We have two goals with this episode of Tuesday Morning Grind: 1) We want to get current team members excited about being a part of risk3sixty. We want our team to have some insight into where we have been, where we are going, and why this is a unique place to build a career. 2) We want future team members that are considering risk3sixty to have a reference guide to risk3sixty. We want prospective team members to have one place to learn about where risk3sixty has been and where we are going. If you are considering a career at risk3sixty – reach out at vibes@risk3sixty.com! About risk3sixty: risk3sixty is a security, privacy, and compliance consulting firm that helps high growth technology organizations build, manage, and assess security and privacy programs. Offering services related to SOC 2, ISO 27001, PCI DSS, HITRUST, Virtual CISO, Privacy Programs (GDPR, CCPA, etc.), Penetration Testing, and a GRC Platform built for cloud technology companies, Phalanx. You can learn more about risk3sixty at www.risk3sixty.com.

David and Perry return to their life of crime and discuss several excellent crime novels by Australian authors and others. They jointly discuss "The Chase", the latest novel by Candice Fox. Hugo Voting Packet (02:42) Miles Franklin Award shortlist (03:00) ALS Gold Medal (02:36) The Dragon Man by Garry Disher (07:51) The Wife and the Widow by Christian White (08:32) Bitter Wash Road by Garry Disher (09:02) Later by Stephen King (06:56) The Chase by Candice Fox (10:18) Windup (01:26) Image from pxhere.com

Patient Relationships in DentistryChristian White returns to The Dental Brief for a second appearance! We are so happy to have him back on.Christian is a dental coach at White & Associates Practice Consulting. Today, he talks to us on the importance of relationships in dentistry.  He dives into two main concepts of being efficient and effective with patients. You must be ready to ask good questions to build trust and a rapport with the patient.To learn more about White & Associates Practice Consulting, Click HereTo Find and Listen to all of The Dental Brief episodes visit:  dentalbrief.comOur Sponsor: OmniPremier.com

In this episode of Tuesday Morning Grind, Christian White and Christian Hyatt discuss address many of the common questions associated with PCI DSS, the process to become certified, how to prepare a budget, and how long it takes. About risk3sixty: risk3sixty is a security, privacy, and compliance consulting firm that helps high growth technology organizations build, manage, and assess security and privacy programs. Offering services related to SOC 2, ISO 27001, PCI DSS, HITRUST, Virtual CISO, Privacy Programs (GDPR, CCPA, etc.), Penetration Testing, and a GRC Platform built for cloud technology companies, Phalanx. You can learn more about risk3sixty at www.risk3sixty.com.

Structuring a High-Performing Dental TeamChristian is a Dental Coach & Project Manager at White & Associates Practice Consulting. Christian's expertise in practice management are catered to financial services and works to ensure dental practices are successful financially as business owners.In this episode, Christian gives us insight into how to create a hardworking and efficient team. As many are aware, the dental industry staff wages for both hygienists and assistants is increasing rapidly and changing in many markets.To learn more about White & Associates Practice Consulting, Click HereTo Find and Listen to all of The Dental Brief episodes visit:  dentalbrief.comOur Sponsor: OmniPremier.com

Peter Fischer and Christian White, two attorneys in BakerHostetler's Labor and Employment Group, discuss the Protecting the Right to Organize Act, commonly referred to as the “PRO Act,” and discuss how the most transformative labor law reform legislation in decades would reshape the American workplace.   Questions and Comments: crwhite@bakerlaw.com and pfischer@bakerlaw.com

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This week Lee and Eddie are off to the movies to see A Simple Favour! Lee is wild to know where Sammy Went in The Nowhere Child (landed it!), and Eddie is pretty sure ghost tours are a dangerous idea.Will Lee get eaten by a ghost? Will Eddie ever figure out how to conjugate the verb ‘to go'? Will Eddie stubbornly use the Australian spelling of favour even though the film is from the US?Find out in this absolutely fantastic episode of Crime Time!______________________________________ If you like what you hear, we'd really appreciate if you sent us some stars on iTunes! It's one the best ways to support the show!We've had many requests for beta reading from Crime Time listeners over the years, and we're thrilled to finally be able to offer this service to our book community! Check out Frankcoreaders.com for all your manuscript assessment needs!Tell us what books are your faves in the comments below, or via Twitter!Join the Crime Time Team at Patreon!Make sure to check out the books of the week via the affiliate link below! Crime Time has partnered with Book Depository to bring you books at a great price – with free shipping worldwide thrown in!

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