Podcast appearances and mentions of Robert Baer

Syriana is a 2005 geopolitical thriller written and directed by Stephen Gaghan, based loosely on former CIA case officer Robert Baer's memoir, See No Evil: The True Story of a Ground Soldier in the CIA's War on Terrorism. The film weaves together multiple storylines that involve a CIA agent, a U.S. energy analyst, a major transnational law firm, and an oil-rich Persian Gulf kingdom. It tackles complex themes of corruption, power, and terrorism from a distinctly post-9/11 vantage point. The film also suggests how law operates in transnational settings and how it seeks—but often fails—to tame the forces of ambition, greed, and power that drive the oil industry and America's role in it. Joining me to talk about Syriana is Margaret (Peggy) McGuinness, a professor at St. John's University School of Law and a leading scholar of international law.  Timestamps: 0:00      Introduction 3:00      The context and setting 5:24      The film's multiple storylines8:28      Former CIA agent Robert Baer and the George Clooney character 19:22     Capital markets and energy derivatives25:26    Big oil in the early 2000s and today 28:28    Big law and the Jeffrey Wright character33:43   DOJ's investigation 37:14     The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act 42:40    The illusion of due diligence 47:40    Radicalization 53:06   Gulf monarchs 55:10    Targeted assassinations 1:01:14  The next movie: big tech and AI 1:01:52  The outcome  Further reading: Alyson, Brusie et al., “Foreign Corrupt Practices Act,” 61 Am. Crim. L. Rev. 713 (2024) Baer, Robert, See No Evil: The True Story of a Ground Soldier in the CIA's War on Terrorism (Crown, 2003) Cohen, Kfir, “Narrating the global: pedagogy and disorientation in ‘Syriana,'” Jump Cut: A Review of Contemporary Media Lewis, R. James & Awan, Akil N. eds. Radicalization: A Global and Comparative Perspective (Oxford Univ. Press, 2024) Stiglitz, Jospeh E., Globalization and Its Discontents (W. W. Norton & Co. 2002)  Law on Film is created and produced by Jonathan Hafetz. Jonathan is a professor at Seton Hall Law School. He has written many books and articles about the law. He has litigated important cases to protect civil liberties and human rights while working at the ACLU and other organizations. Jonathan is a huge film buff and has been watching, studying, and talking about movies for as long as he can remember. For more information about Jonathan, here's a link to his bio: https://law.shu.edu/profiles/hafetzjo.htmlYou can contact him at jonathanhafetz@gmail.comYou can follow him on X (Twitter) @jonathanhafetz You can follow the podcast on X (Twitter) @LawOnFilmYou can follow the podcast on Instagram @lawonfilmpodcast

The US national security adviser has said there's a real risk that an escalation in fighting between Israel and Hezbollah in Lebanon could ignite a regional war. Since Jake Sullivan voiced his concerns, the Israeli military says it's launched fresh attacks on Hezbollah targets in Lebanon. Also, we speak to Robert Baer, a former CIA agent, on the attacks in Beirut and the killing of senior Hezbollah commander, Ibrahim Aqil. And supporting a parent with dementia, we hear from one science writer about her mother's experience.(Photo: Medical personnel work at the site of Friday's Israeli strike, as search and rescue operations continued on Saturday. Credit: Reuters)

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Robert Baer, a former CIA undercover operative with deep knowledge of Russian intelligence has some ideas. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Robert Baer, a former CIA undercover operative with deep knowledge of Russian intelligence has some ideas. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Diplomat and former US Ambassador Manuel Rocha is facing charges related to secretly serving as an agent of Cuba's government.Rocha is the latest in a long line of spies, who have worked for the federal government while spying for other countries. Some for decades at a time.NPR's Mary Louise Kelly talks to former CIA officer Robert Baer about the charges against Rocha and how he might have managed to go undetected for four decades.Email us at considerthis@npr.org

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Robert Baer, a retired CIA covert operative is suspicious of that plane. Brigadier General Pat Ryder, Pentagon Press Secretary, discusses the weekend "rebellion" in Russia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Robert Baer, a retired CIA covert operative is suspicious of that plane. Brigadier General Pat Ryder, Pentagon Press Secretary, discusses the weekend "rebellion" in Russia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Shawn Turner, a former Head of Communications for the Director of National Intelligence, and Robert Baer, a former CIA Case Officer, share insights about the leak, its impact, and how to stop them. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Shawn Turner, a former Head of Communications for the Director of National Intelligence, and Robert Baer, a former CIA Case Officer, share insights about the leak, its impact, and how to stop them. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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On today's show, 1:06pm CT, 2:06 pm ET: Shut Up: Fight against censorship heats up - Elon Musk rips into Apple for pulling advertising and threatening to strip Twitter from its store - Musk scorches media for being ‘against free speech,' by asking WH to monitor Twitter - Ex-Twitter safety chief admits Hunter Biden laptop censorship was a ‘mistake' - Former CIA case officer and current CNN intelligence analyst Robert Baer aspersed the freedom of speech as "nonsense," and claimed that Vladimir Putin and Russia will be "all over Twitter" - Jen Psaki tries to escape testifying on White House-Big Tech collusion, but judge steps in - we'll examine. Recession Nation: Report says 41 percent of small businesses can't pay rent this month - DoorDash lays off 1,250 employees to cut costs - we'll analyze. Plus, Connecticut mom outraged over gender identity book for 2nd graders - Perverse attack on Christian parents protecting their children is far from over. And, Christian ministry forced to hire NON-Christians? now has the answer from the Court. https://www.spreaker.com/show/christian-talk-that-rocks http://christiantalkthatrocks.net or http://christiantalkthatrocks.com

Dave Rubin of “The Rubin Report” talks about Justin Trudeau's embarrassing appearance on "Canada's Drag Race"; Trudeau explaining why he ignored the demands of the freedom convoy protests; Dr. Fauci telling "Face the Nation's" Margaret Brennan that there may be more COVID school closings this winter; Dr. Ashish Jha continuing to push the myth that the unvaccinated are still a problem; Dr. Fauci admitting to "Meet the Press" Chuck Todd that even he is baffled by China's zero COVID policy; the escalation of protests in China against Xi Jinping and China's zero COVID policy; Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Forum explicitly saying the China is the model for people around the world to follow; former CIA case officer Robert Baer explaining why Elon Musk's changes to Twitter will only assist Vladimir Putin's propaganda war; the reaction of Black Twitter to Elon Musk; how the new CNN CEO Chris Licht might abandon his plans for a more centrist CNN; Russell Brand and Jordan Peterson finding common ground on who the real enemies are; Elon Musk and AOC making amends and falling in love; and much more. ---------- Today's Sponsors: Tommy John - Using breathable, lightweight fabric with FOUR TIMES the stretch of competing brands, you need to try Tommy John Underwear. PLUS, you can get 33% OFF EVERYTHING AND GET FREE SHIPPING DURING THE CYBER MONDAY SALE! Go to https://tommyjohn.com/rubin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Chris Naugle Show: Real unreserved conversationToday's Guest - Robert BaerRobert Baer is one of the most accomplished agents in CIA history. Let's put it this way, George Clooney earned an Oscar for his portrayal of Baer in the film Syriana. Over several decades Baer served everywhere from Iraq to New Delhi and racked up an impressive list of accomplishments. He was awarded the Career Intelligence Medal for his efforts. He is the author of four New York Times bestsellers: his most recent, The Company We Keep, which he wrote with his wife, Dayna, tells the story of a real-life “Mr. and Mrs. Smith” saga. He is considered one of the world's foremost authorities on the Middle East and frequently appears on all major news outlets.

Noted Nuclear non-proliferation expert Joe Cirincione says the biggest nuclear power plant in Europe is in danger of a possible meltdown. Also in this episode, former CIA covert operative, Robert Baer says Daria Dugina's killing may have been committed by the FSB.

Rick welcomes New York Times bestselling author and former CIA officer Robert Baer to talk about his newest book, The Fourth Man: The Hunt for a KGB Spy at the Top of the CIA and the Rise of Putin's Russia. Afterwards, New York Times and #1 internationally bestselling author of 21 novels Steve Berry joins Rick to discuss his latest, The Omega Factor. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Robert Baer is a New York Times bestselling author and one of the most accomplished agents in CIA history. He's an intelligence and security analyst for CNN, a Time's intelligence columnist, and has contributed to Vanity Fair, The Wall Street Journal, and The Washington Post. This is a jaw-dropping conversation about the reality of the world today, from what's happening in Russia, and what's happening in the United States, to some chilling predictions. As you can hear in my questions, I was very intrigued and quite frankly shook by some of his answers. Robert has just released his new book 'The Fourth Man: The Hunt for a KGB Spy at the Top of the CIA and the Rise of Putin's Russia' which is a fascinating read and I highly recommend it. Buy the book here - https://amzn.to/3JNgSpd

Olga and Mo are joined by former CIA officer and New York Times bestselling author Robert Baer to discuss his most recent book, “The Fourth Man: The Hunt for a KGB Spy at the Top of the CIA and the Rise of Putin's Russia." Robert Baer is one of the most accomplished agents in CIA history and considered one of the world's foremost authorities on the Middle East. Over several decades, he served everywhere from Iraq to New Delhi and was awarded the Career Intelligence Medal for his efforts. His first book "See No Evil" was the basis for the Academy Award-winning film SYRIANA, which earned George Clooney an Oscar for his portrayal of Baer.  Read THE FOURTH MAN: https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Man-Hunt-Putins-Russia/dp/0306925613?  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today, Justin sits down with legendary CIA case officer and author Robert Baer. Robert served all over the world between the late 1970s and late 1990s, spending much of his time in the middle east. He has written several nonfiction books about his experiences, including See No Evil, the book that inspired the 2005 film Syriana, for which he helped write the screenplay. George Clooney's character Robert Barnes is directly inspired by Robert himself. Robert's latest book, The Fourth Man, tries to unravel the mystery of a suspected high-level mole in the US government, still operating after three infamous moles were uncovered.Connect with Robert:Check out Robert's latest release, The Fourth Man, here.Connect with Spycraft 101:Check out Justin's latest release, Covert Arms, here.spycraft101.comIG: @spycraft101Shop: spycraft-101.myshopify.comPatreon: Spycraft 101Find Justin's first book, Spyshots: Volume One, here.Download the free eBook, The Clandestine Operative's Sidearm of Choice, here.North American Ag SpotlightDevoted to highlighting the people & companies in agriculture who impact our industry...Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show

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John & Heidi share funny stories of people doing weird things... plus John chats with a guest. We visit with bestselling author Robert Baer about his new book The Fourth Man Learn more about our radio program, podcast & blog at www.JohnAndHeidiShow.com

John & Heidi share funny stories of people doing weird things... plus John chats with a guest. We visit with bestselling author Robert Baer about his new book The Fourth Man Learn more about our radio program, podcast & blog at www.JohnAndHeidiShow.com

Anyone who is a spy history buff will know that American Intelligence caught three high-profile Russian spies in the 90s: Aldrich Ames and Edward Howard from the CIA, and Robert Hanssen from the FBI.  But did you know that there have always been rumblings that there was a fourth man? Bestselling author and intelligence analyst for CNN, (one of the most accomplished officers in CIA history), Robert Baer says it's time to talk about The Fourth Man (which happens to be the name of his new book!) – someone who may be the greatest traitor in American history – and who may still be alive. In our chat we find out how the intelligence organizations discovered the three moles within, and why there is credible belief that there was a fourth mole – the Fourth Man - and how these spies allowed Putin to come to power. In addition, we discover why people become spies, what the state of US spycraft is today, and what is the biggest danger in the world today. Plus – how he made ME part of the spy story!

The CIA beginning in the early 1980s made a series of stunning arrests—three high-profile Russian spies, Aldrich Ames, Edward Lee Howard, and Robert Hanssen, were uncovered as some of the most damaging leaks the agency had ever seen. Yet, as told by former CIA officer Robert Baer, the investigation for a “fourth man” ensued shortly after, and now relates the never-before-told story about the hunt for what may very well be the greatest traitor in American history. Robert Baer is a New York Times bestselling author and former CIA case officer with 21 years of service. He is the intelligence columnist for Time, intelligence and security analyst for CNN, and his works have appeared in The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal. Baer's book See No Evil was the basis for the acclaimed film Syriana, and he was the co-host for the History Channel series Hunting Hitler. In his latest book, The Fourth Man, Baer recounts a thrilling tale of hunting a so-called “super mole” who was believed to have more destructive power than their three predecessors combined. Three women, leading experts in counterintelligence, led the team as they poured through their own ranks, finding loose threads, smoking guns and rumors that the traitor was nothing more than a Russian trick to break the CIA apart. And, at the height of their intellectual duel and legendary game of cat-and-mouse, the shocking conclusion to their investigation would shake American Intelligence to its core. Join us, as Baer retells the thrilling hunt for a KGB spy at the top ranks of the CIA, with all its twists and turns—and its implications for the future of America, Russia and the rise of Vladimir Putin. SPEAKERS Robert Baer Former CIA Operative; Intelligence Analyst, CNN; Author, The Fourth Man: The Hunt for a KGB Spy at the Top of the CIA and the Rise of Putin's Russia In Conversation with Adam Lashinsky Contributor, Business Insider; Twitter @adamlashinsky In response to the COVID-19 pandemic, we are currently hosting all of our live programming via YouTube live stream. This program was recorded via video conference on June 1st, 2022 by the Commonwealth Club of California. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Former CIA officer Robert Baer talks about the CIA's unresolved search for another Russian mole in its ranks, while diplomatic historian Kelly McFarland addresses the ramifications of Russia's blockade of Ukrainian wheat exports. With Jeff Stein and Jeanne Meserve. Guests: Robert Baer Robert Baer: Books, Biography, Blog, Audiobooks Kelly McFarland https://twitter.com/McFarlandKellyM Sound Off - Supporting Veterans on Their Terms https://sound-off.com/ https://twitter.com/Soundoff Subscribe to SpyTalk on Substack https://www.spytalk.co/ Take our listener survey: http://survey.podtrac.com/start-survey.aspx?pubid=BffJOlI7qQcF&ver=short   Follow Jeanne Meserve on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeanneMeserve https://www.jeannemeserve.com/ Follow Jeff Stein on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SpyTalker Follow SpyTalk on Twitter: https://twitter.com/talk_spy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Retired CIA case officer Robert Baer, perhaps one of the best US intelligence officers in modern times, says Russia is slowly establishing the Soviet empire. He says Ukraine, the Balkans, and the U.S. had better look out.

In episode 5 of the Unpilled Podcast, Kashif is joined by ex-CIA Field Operative, and author Robert "Bob" Baer. In an engaging conversation centred around Bob's CIA experiences, topics discussed include: Missions in Russia, Europe, Middle East, the Hitler investigation, Memory recall, Legacy databases, Finding justice through DNA, Generational genetics, Warrior genetics, Foreign agencies & technology, as well as a look into CIA training. Enjoy!Listen On:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/46OaVEp...iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST ► ADD US ON INSTAGRAM:Kashif: https://www.instagram.com/kashkhanoff...DNA Company: https://www.instagram.com/thednacoGUEST:Bob's Books: https://www.amazon.com/Robert-Baer/e/B001IQZM0I%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_shareCheck out "Hunting Hitler" on the Discovery Channel!Website:https://www.thednacompany.com/

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The Cukurs operation barely scratches the surface of what Mossad has done over the years. Mossad has been, “involved in special operations and activity in the service of the State of Israel, such as the pursuit of Nazi criminals.” This episode explores some of the most important operations the agency has carried out. Stephan Talty describes missions you've probably never heard of but that shaped the Middle East and the whole world. The episode contains interviews with Robert Baer, accomplished former CIA agent, intelligence expert and security analyst, bestselling author of several books including *See No Evil: The True Story of a Ground Soldier in the CIA's War Against Terrorism* which was the basis for the film Syriana, in which George Clooney's character is based on Baer and H. Keith Melton, intelligence historian and expert on espionage tradecraft. Good Assassins: Hunting the Butcher came out of author Stephan Talty's work on a book called *The Good Assassin.* Click here to Buy the book THE JET discusses an operation in which the target wasn't human. In 1963, the Israelis decided they had to have a MIG. At the time, the MIG was the most advanced Soviet fighter plane, and the latest model, the MIG-21, had been purchased by Israel's neighbors — and enemies — Egypt, Syria, and Iraq. THE ENGINEER tells the story of Yahya Ayash, the No. 1 bombmaker for Hamas. Ayash was a master of building explosives. Ayash built bombs for Hamas suicide attacks: the Mehola Junction bombing in 1993, the Afula Bus massacre in 1994, the Dizengoff Street bus massacre also in 1994 — at the time, the deadliest suicide bombing in Israeli history with 22 civilians killed and 50 injured — Ayash was also behind the Hadera central station massacre, again in 1994, and many more. THE SCIENTIST is about the Israeli government's operations to find out if Syria, which had been hostile to their Jewish neighbors for decades, had a nuclear program. Was there anything going on? Were they building plants? Were they thinking of building bombs? There was no evidence on the ground that anything was happening. Israel's spy satellites were picking up nothing. Still, some people at Mossad had an uneasy feeling. THE WRONG MAN explores Operation Wrath of God. In 1972, Mossad was thrust into the spotlight when members of the faction of the Palestinian Liberation Organization known as “Black September” took Israeli athletes and coaches hostage at the Munich Olympic Games. A botched German ambush resulted in the murder of nine Israelis, as well as the deaths of the terrorists. It was a catastrophe - for the Olympics, for the Germans, and for the Israelis. Prime Minister Golda Meir quickly approved Operation Wrath of God, a covert Mossad operation to hunt down and kill the planners of the Munich massacre. SPIES NEVER FORGET tells the story of a Lebanese man named Imad Fayez Mughniyah, the mastermind in a series of terror attacks against Israelis. He was believed to be the chief of staff for Hezbollah and was a link between Iran and terrorist groups. Mossad and Mughniyah were involved in a cat and mouse game for decades. Mossad wanted to kill him and Mughniyah knew it. THE GENERAL is about a man named Mohammed Suleiman, a general in the Syrian army and one of the main contacts to Iran and Hamas. Israel wanted him gone.  • Written and Hosted by STEPHAN TALTY • Produced and Directed by SCOTT WAXMAN and JACOB BRONSTEIN • Executive Producers: SCOTT WAXMAN and MARK FRANCIS • Story Editor: JACOB BRONSTEIN • Editorial direction: SCOTT WAXMAN and MANGESH HATTIKUDUR • Editing, mixing, and sound design: MARK FRANCIS • Theme Music by TYLER CASH • Archival Researcher: ADAM SHAPIRO • Thanks to OREN ROSENBAUM Learn more about “Good Assassins: Hunting the Butcher” at DiversionPodcasts.com  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

Former CIA covert operative Robert Baer and current and former intelligence officials suspect Russian intelligence agents are attacking U.S. government officials with directed energy weapons inside the U.S.

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In this episode we discuss Stephen Gaghan's Syriana (2005), a film based on See No Evil (Crown 2003), which recounts Robert Baer's experience in the CIA. Redwood is a platform for contributors to analyze the political ideas embedded in the entertainment we consume. Where to watch: click here. Intro and outro music: Pistol Jazz, “Desperado.” Made in Japan. Episode cover art: Angie Nguyen --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/redwoodpod/message

What do you do with human waste in space? Daniel Yeh, winner of the 2014 Cade Prize and a professor at the University of South Florida, invented a solar-powered system that converts human waste into nutrients, energy and water. Initially designed for small villages in the underdeveloped world, the all-in-one waste management system is being tested for use in the Artemis program for a return to the moon in 2024. TRANSCRIPT: Intro: 0:01 Inventors and their inventions. Welcome to Radio Cade the podcast from the Cade Museum for Creativity and Invention in Gainesville, Florida. The museum is named after James Robert Cade, who invented Gatorade in 1965. My name is Richard Miles. We’ll introduce you to inventors and the things that motivate them, we’ll learn about their personal stories, how their inventions work and how their ideas get from the laboratory to the marketplace. Richard Miles: 0:39 Waste in space, specifically human waste. What do you do with it? And is it good for anything? Welcome to Radio Cade. I’m your host Richard Miles. And today we’ll be talking to Daniel Yeh, an engineering professor at the University of South Florida in Tampa, as well as a winner of the 2014 Cade Prize. Welcome to Radio Cade Daniel. Daniel Yeh: 0:56 Richard it’s great to be here. Thanks for having me here. Richard Miles: 0:58 So Daniel, you’ve had an incredible ride over the last several years, six years ago, you won the Cade Prize. It was a great moment for you and your team. Now we’re going to talk all about that, the technology behind it and so on. But first I’d sort of like to focus on you a little bit. Tell us what the Daniel Yeh story. So you’re born to come home from the hospital, then what happens? And then how did you end up in Tampa? Daniel Yeh: 1:19 So I grew up in Northern New Jersey, I think just typical suburban environment, nothing really exciting. And I was thinking, you might ask me this question. So I was thinking, you know, do I have something, some aha moment as an inventor, right? You people usually point to something when they’re living , right ? Somebody gave them some electronic tool kit and that sparks some creativity. No, I think I listened to a lot of music at the time. And that was obviously pre-internet. I just listened to a lot of radio and whenever I can get on the bus and lay down , I was able to drive over New York City, go watch concerts and clubs and whatnot. And that’s mostly what I did focus a lot on music. Richard Miles: 1:55 Are you a musician yourself? Daniel Yeh: 1:56 That’s on my bucket list and to pick up a guitar and play and probably should . Now that you’re asking me that. So after high school, I went to the University of Michigan. And for me, that was a world of difference from what I was used to coming from the New York, New Jersey area, being in the Midwest. And I think that experience going to the University of Michigan, being a Midwest really changed my life in many ways, got to see a different perspective of how people are in the Midwest. And of course, I met my wife there. Richard Miles: 2:24 That helps it. Daniel Yeh: 2:25 it was life changing for the better. Richard Miles: 2:27 So we entered the University of Michigan. Did you know you wanted to study engineering or what was your undergraduate major? Daniel Yeh: 2:31 I did not. So I thought about biology and I was really attracted to nature. That was one thing to have may explain where I am today. I was really attracted to nature. I started out in the school of natural resources and ended up with degrees in natural resources, as well as civil engineering. I even attended forestry camps. I thought I was going to be a forest ranger, but at some point at Michigan, that something clicked. I realized that engineers develop solutions. Engineering is how you get things done. And if I really want, I think, solve problems, I need to become an engineer. So that’s where I pivoted and double majored and pursued a degree in civil engineering, the realm of equations. Richard Miles: 3:07 So you finished up at U M and then what came after that? Daniel Yeh: 3:09 From there, I went to work, went back to New Jersey to work work for a consulting company, did a lot of computer modeling to study impacts of human development on water bodies. So specifically looking at this case where there’s a potential development in a watershed in Northern New Jersey and the pristine watershed and our job as the consultant was to project the impact from that development and how that might impact a water reservoir. So I think that was a good experience because they really got me to think about what constitutes a good computer model. When people say garbage in garbage out, I really understood what that meant. A motto is only as good as the assumptions state you put behind it. It is only as good as the data that you have to formulate a model from there. I decided to go back to Michigan to get my master’s degree. And then after I got my master’s degree, I worked at Ford Motor Company for a little while. So that was a good experience. Getting industrial engineering, industrial waste management experience. I was part of a research group that was in charge of troubleshooting issues at Ford, almost kind of like a strike force, looking at different issues related to environmental aspects, waste management at Ford. But that’s where I think I met my first life-changing mentor. His name is Hyung Kim and Dr. Kim really just loved to talk and give advice. And he said, young man, you need to go South to Georgia Tech because that’s where, before he came to Ford, he was teaching and I follow his advice and went to Georgia Tech to pursue my PhD in environmental engineering. Richard Miles: 4:34 Wow. Yeah . And then you just kept going, he’s got a PhD and. Daniel Yeh: 4:37 Kept going. Yeah, I think that didn’t have everything mapped out. A lot of that is just, well in each one of these jobs that I’ve always felt like, I didn’t know enough. I always felt like I could do my work, but I just didn’t know enough. Right . There was something that was kind of nagging me. Like I could apply the solution, but, but what constitutes that solution? Like how did people come up with that solution? And I felt like ultimately I really need to get a PhD so I can essentially construct something from zero. And I’m glad I did, because I think that whole PhD process rewires your brain. It does, either breaks you or makes you. Richard Miles: 5:09 A lot of inventors have unique stories. And when you start out saying that you used to go to New York City, it’s funny, I’ve had two other inventors on the show and they started the exact same way, but the sentence always ends. Like I went to go see like planetariums and science museums. You’re the first as I went to music clubs . Daniel Yeh: 5:24 I did, I went to the village. Richard Miles: 5:26 And all sorts of ways that you can map out a career path, but that’s not a bad one. So Daniel , let’s talk about your inventions. And first of all, the work that you’ve been doing recently, at least since I’ve met you last six years, you’re dealing with most people by definition don’t ever want to hear about or talk about it’s human waste. And so forgive me, you’ve probably heard every single poop joke out there by now. You’ve probably gotten used to it. Daniel Yeh: 5:47 I’ve heard most of them, but there’s still some good ones. Yeah. Richard Miles: 5:50 So start out by explaining the technology that won the Cade Prize six years ago, the new generator, which if I remember it was solar, it converted human waste into nutrients, energy, and water, hence the name. And it was essentially like an all in one sanitation slash power slash water system for small villages. And is that essentially what it did. Daniel Yeh: 6:10 And that’s essentially what it is. So the motivation behind this idea is the fact that we have close to 3 billion people on the planet that lacks something that we take for granted e very d ay, which is the ability to go to the bathroom and flush a nd f orget and go about our daily business. And the reason that we’re able to flush and forget is because in our society, t here’s infrastructure, starting with the toilet itself, then you have a whole series of underground pipes, the pipes in your house, the sewers i n the city, a massive underground network and leading to a wastewater treatment facility that handles that waste and turns it into clean water. Water that’s either clean enough to put back into the nature or water that you can recycle for other uses. This system is very expensive to build and probably even more expensive to maintain. So for many parts of the world that are in the emerging economies, they’re struggling with t he various infrastructure issues and this type of sanitation infrastructure that we use is really difficult for a lot of cities to build, not to mention t hat for many mega cities, they basically b uilt very organically. So now it’s very difficult to go back and basically dig up the entire underground and put all those pipes in. Richard Miles: 7:18 For these systems that you develop . Can you give us a rough idea of size? I seem to remember they’re fairly compact and small. Daniel Yeh: 7:24 Yeah. So normally you would have this entire factory, right? It looks like a whole factory facility that your domain would be one or multiple in , in a city, depending on the size of a city, like a whole plant. Right? Yeah. And so what we’re after is, is there a different way to provide this type of service so that you don’t have this build as massive sets of pipes under the ground? And normally the trade-off is that, well, it looks like the only thing that’s available is either a latrine, which is essentially a form of hole in the ground or a septic tank of some sort and in the 21st century. And it’s incredible information technology age. So there’s gotta be different ways to do that. Right. And so the idea is that if we can have essentially a hub of some sort near where people live, those that their waste can enter this hub and the pipe runs would be relatively short, could either be the one hub per house or per a cluster of houses or cluster of public toilets. But this hub would not only safely handled the waste that go a step beyond that. It will view the waste as a resource, not a liability, but extract what we can out of the resource. So that’s the water, the energy nutrients, and actually provide value back to the community and this hub, because many parts of the world is crowded. So it can not be very big. So it has to be relatively compact. And what we build are essentially fraction of the size of a 20 foot container. Richard Miles: 8:40 Really? Yeah. And how are they powered? Daniel Yeh: 8:42 To date we’ve built them all solar power. And the reason is in these communities that a re lacking sanitation, they’re probably lacking other things as well. And part of the sanitation equation is water, but electricity is another global problem. Many communities either don’t have electricity at all, or is severely unreliable. And that’s another part o f that cost equation for the US that these treatment plants, we have c onsume a lot of electricity. So we basically need to come up with a low energy system that can run on r enewable. S o it runs on solar, but along the way, we also extract energy out of it in t he form of bio gas that communities can use for heating, cooking, lighting, and so forth. Richard Miles: 9:17 So something in the size you said that could fit easily into part of a cargo container, what size village could that handle? Both the waste and provide a reasonable amount of power for? Daniel Yeh: 9:27 The first form we built what we called a new generator, a New Gen 100 serves nominally about a hundred person a day. And that’s about a third of the size of 20 foot container . So roughly a foot by six and a half foot wide. So that’s the size of that. And then right now we are testing a new generator, 1000, serving a thousand people for about double the size of that. So basically 10 times the capacity at double the size. Richard Miles: 9:52 And you’re currently testing these, I think in India, right? And South Africa is that where you’ve done most of your testing. Daniel Yeh: 9:57 We started our testing in India and then later on, because we’ve had good success, we moved to South Africa and these are all places where there is a significant needs. And we’re currently still developing the technology in South Africa. This is all through just the support of the Gates Foundation that had this vision to basically reinvent a toilets that can basically do all those things I described independent of sewer . So basically the next generation of toilets. So we were fortunate to be one of the teams funded by the Gates Foundation to develop these technologies. Richard Miles: 10:26 How did you get on their radar screen? Was there an application process or did they reach out to you? Or how did that connect happen? Daniel Yeh: 10:31 So , so after Georgia Tech, I later on move on to Stanford to do my postdoc . And then that’s when things start to click in terms of working with wastewater. And so I was working with this technology called an anaerobic membrane bioreactor with another good mentor there , Craig Credo. And this is sort of the latest and greatest technology for waste water treatment. But I always felt like there’s an application to apply this for sanitation context. But the thing is nobody would fund that it was difficult to get funding within the US because this is for a global need, right? And then if I go to talk to the NGOs, they tend to want to work with tried and true technologies. There really aren’t any resources available to develop transformative technologies. So this thing is we’re sort of caught in between, right ? Until the Gates Foundation came along with this program that they want to reinvent the toilet. So it all started in 2011 with a two-page application. They had a program called grand challenges explorations, anybody in the world can apply anybody. You just need to supply two pages. And the first time I applied, I didn’t get it. And then I retool made the application better and then apply it again. And then I got it. Richard Miles: 11:35 And what year are we talking about Daniel? Daniel Yeh: 11:36 Uh , that was 2011. Richard Miles: 11:38 2011. Okay. All right . So one more question then before we move on to the space application of this and what you’re working on now, I’m imagining that by nature, this is not difficult to both install and fix. So if you put it in a village or any remote area and something goes wrong, do you need to, in an engineer from somewhere, or is there extensive training that’s required? Or how long would it take you to train person of average intelligence, how to fix one of these things? Daniel Yeh: 12:01 So what you described this scenario is exactly the challenges that when we develop technologies for this type of context, often in remote areas. You have to think through. So first of all, the technology needs to be extremely reliable. And you need to think about all the things that may potentially fail. And every machine fails. At some point, if you have a car and you never change the oil, it will fail on you. At some point, you’ve never inflate your tire. It will fail on you since Henry Ford time. And before we have made so many cars in the world, that we have a good idea to predict reliability, automobiles, that we understand their failure modes and meantime to failure and end to preventative maintenance needed for those. So what we’re trying to do is get our technology to that point where we can predict failures, that you can have preventive, maintenance, change out parts before they go out. And then you essentially have a workforce, right? Because one of the issues in lobbies communities also is high unemployment. So you want to create value in the product you’re providing so that somebody will pay for this value, this product, this service, which is sanitation, and then employ people who will be trained technicians to serve as the units. And people are very smart and clever anywhere in the world, you go, right ? Somebody will figure out how to solve that need. And right now we’re working with some of the smartest people I’ve ever come across in South Africa. And the prototype engineer that we have working with our sister is just dynamite. So I totally believe that this approach will work, that you make a reliable technology, and then you train a technical workforce to go along with that. And then you create a business model that will sustain that operation . Richard Miles: 13:34 So let’s switch now from the underdeveloped world to space. At some point you attracted the attention of NASA. First question, when I heard that, is that, that , well, hasn’t NASA figured this out already. I mean, even astronauts got to go, you know, they they’ve clearly they’ve done some work on what you do with human waste in space. So tell us, did they contact you for it’s fall or you contacted get them? And what was their request? What were they looking for? Daniel Yeh: 13:55 So the whole thing was serendipity. I happened to be giving a talk on the space coast at a workshop actually about what we were doing in India. And after my talk, a NASA scientist came over and started talking to me, his name is Luke Robertson. And he said, you know, I’ve been thinking a lot about how we need to go to this next generation of water recycling in space, because right now on the international space station, we’re pretty good at recycling water on international space station. We can recycle even the water in urine. The issue is the amount of chemicals involved to make that whole process happen. And he’s worried that when we move beyond the ISS to the moon and then to Mars, this resupply of the chemicals will be either extremely difficult or expensive or just not possible. So NASA kind of needs to go onto this next generation of technologies that might be more biologically inclined that will use less chemicals. So that’s one and the other is the need is driven by food production. Well, we need to grow food on Mars, but our current approach doesn’t allow us to connect the dots. And I know there’s fertilizer and waste, but we need an enabling technology to make that happen. So we started talking and then putting our heads together and applying a lot of the ideas that we developed through the new generator towards what we’re currently doing with it NASA. Richard Miles: 15:09 So I guess the big question, obviously, anything deal with this space is does this work, or can it work in zero gravity or low gravity? Have you done any testing so far? I imagine you have to establish a proof of concept before we go any further, or will you not know that until you get to step on the International Space Station? Daniel Yeh: 15:26 The very first thing is that we need to have a technology that can show that, you know, if you have a certain type of input into the system, that you can get a certain output out. So meets the requirements of NASA that I can have water that basically looks like water containing toilet water, and out will come clean water, right? It meets their requirements within a certain space. So that’s the level that we’re at right now, but obviously we’re doing this technology on the earth where gravity is present. So while we designed a system with microgravity in mind, we won’t really know that until we actually build the next iteration, which hopefully then will be subjected to low gravity situations. So kind of have to climb the ladder. First, first, you need to show that, yeah, I can get it to work. And then the next iteration is okay, I’m going to actually build a version deck, stand up to all the requirements of micro gravity . And then the other is that, you know, micro gravity is not the only setting. If you’re looking at surface habitats, whether it’s the moon, one, six gravity of the earth or Mars about one third, there’s going to be gravity present. So you get to enjoy gravity a little bit in this system you built for this context, although it’s going to be a reduced gravity. Richard Miles: 16:34 So let me make sure I understand this correctly. So in addition to cleaning up the wastewater and converting it to water without chemicals, which is the big advantage compared to what NASA does now, you’re also creating fertilizer for plants growing in space. What was NASA’s plan before that? Were they just going to truck a bunch of fertilizer up to the moon? Or how did they plan if at all, to grow things on a moon base. Daniel Yeh: 16:56 Other ideas have often been considered. I think the technology is wasn’t there yet because of the focus on making what you currently have work. As you know, right now, NASA is given a budget by Congress and it needs to work within demand days of the budget of their current administrations. So priorities do shift over time. For example, since the Apollo era, we haven’t gone back to the moon because the priority has shifted to lower earth orbit. And you can watch all sorts of shows on TV, talking about how this future would have been if we had kept going and gone to Mars. So we would’ve been there maybe 30 years ago, but it’s the focus happened on lower earth orbit. So even though I think in the back of their head has always been the need to develop a different version of the technology, but the focus has been to get things to work on ISS and what they currently have works for the ISS very well. In fact, one of the reasons I got involved working in NASA, well, first of all, who doesn’t want to work with NASA, right ? Right. So, but the second is, as an engineer is incredibly challenging and you get to work with some really, really good people. And it also rewires your brain, I think a different way. But under these very difficult constraints, if you can get something to work, you can probably develop something that will work better on earth as well. Richard Miles: 18:03 So dividends that pay off as you develop something for NASA, you could discover it , it works even better or other applications here. Daniel Yeh: 18:10 We think so yeah. So for example, we know there’s a lot of technologies developed for a space that has since been sound translate to earth like GPS, the algorithms use for talking to the space station is now the algorithm used for laser surgery and the list goes on and on. So we’re basically miniaturizing the new generator into something, the size of a refrigerator. And we see that, well, the outcome of this might be something like an appliance household appliances, like refrigerator sized decadent, or just basically handle all the waste as his house generates. But now not only that will give you value back . Richard Miles: 18:41 Right ? So sketch out for me, Daniel, I know you’re still in the testing phase of just making sure this works, but at a conceptual level, what is the idea? Let’s say if we have a moon base eventually that has several hundred people or even a thousand people, would it be like what you just described where you’d have these sort of mini units for each household, or is it envisioned that you’d build something like a water treatment plant using your technology just a lot bigger to service the entire base, how much thinking has gone on to, I guess, the scaling up of this type of technology to serve a relatively largish base. And then I’ll go ahead and ask my follow-up now is the plan that those would be constructed there on the moon, or would they be constructed here and then brought up there and assembled. Daniel Yeh: 19:23 I think all of those things that you mentioned are all possible scenarios, right? So right now NASA has planned is 2024 through the Artemis project first woman on the moon next man on the moon that by 2024 and by 2028 to have a sustainable presence on the moon, as a proving ground for technology so that we can put it the first human on Mars by somewhere around 2033. So what’s neat is that we get to have the moon to test these technologies before we just build something, think that’ll work and then do on Mars. So part of this is also that there’s going to be a gateway station, sort of like an ISS that circles the moon. So in terms of building out the moon base, there’s a number of ways it could go. And I think you always have to think economy of scale. You obviously, if you have a whole community and you want to put a treatment system in, in every household, it might be better maybe to aggregate the waste and then to have one unit, right, in that case. However, you can also see that this is going to be colony. That will slowly grow. Basically when we go to a place I go to the moon. First thing we’re trying to do is not die. It’s survival. And just like the first thing that will happen when we land on the Mars is trying not to die because Mars will find all sorts of ways to kill you. So as you get really good at not dying, you transition from survivability to sustainability, how do you actually sustain your presence there ? Using the, these amount of resources, costs, energy, generated the least amount of waste, recycle everything. So whatever technology that’s putting , putting up is probably need to grow. You need to have something that maybe is there initially serving one phase of the operation and maybe a smaller scale, and then sort of like Lego blocks, it will grow and be able to serve something larger rather than just shipping something, a mega sized unit overnight. So I think a lot of thinking needs to go in there thinking about how do we put something in there that will not only serve the needs of initial missions, but you get to basically lean on your investment and allow that initial investment to just grow. So that 5, 10 years down the road say, you know, that technology is outdated and basically kind of scrapped it. Richard Miles: 21:18 I’ve been talking to a number of folks on this podcast series and we’re all working diligently and feverishly on one aspect relating to space. How do we do X or how to do Y do you have an opportunity through NASA or through any other organizations to actually interact with other people in other disciplines, working on space technologies. In other words, do you get a chance to interact with doctors or chemists or biologists focus also maybe part of the Artemis program? Cause I would be fascinated to know, are there areas of overlap in which even though you’re in different disciplines, you’re actually may be trying to solve versions of the same problem. Daniel Yeh: 21:49 That’s is really interesting. So we work in this realm called Eclss that’s environmental control and life support systems. And we work in a subset of Eclss, which is basically water and waste management, but obviously the rest of Eclss in terms of like air revitalization and radiation. I m ean, those are all important things. And I’m also very interested in basically human physiology and psychology because at the end of the day, it’s about life support and mission success and how do what we do contribute to that. But how d o w ork other people do affect what we do? I would say probably right now, we’re so focused on just trying to get this initial piece of technology to work that haven’t had chance to really branch out as much. But I think this w ould just happen as the project grows and maybe I’ll do this through my son. He’s currently studying biomedical engineering and his goal is to do space medicine. Wow. A nd you think about, this is actually not that long in the future. M aybe in a few years from now, he w ould be up and running during this stuff, I’ll be learning from him. Richard Miles: 22:44 The biggest revolution seems to me in space, exploration has been the involvement of the private sector and specifically private space companies. And you’ve got this interesting dynamic going on. They obviously still depend on support for math then and oftentimes funding. But in many instances it looks a lot like a private sector initiative in which they’re kind of set their own priorities, set their own plans, get at least part of their own funding. So whether it’s SpaceX or Blue Origins or Sierra Nevada Space Corporation and others. And we were talking earlier before the show about licensing and so on. Has anyone expressed any interest in your technology from a private company that says, Hey, we want to develop some component of the space program. We really like what you’re doing, come work for us or develop this for us or license it to us. How much of role is that playing or is NASA still the major and kind of only driver in this event that we’re seeing? Daniel Yeh: 23:31 So right now we are working with NASA or our goal really is to help them fulfill the mission of Artemis is very ambitious schedule. But what you said there, absolutely I think will happen in terms of licensing of our technology. That’s co-developed with NASA to the private sector. So I anticipate that we’ll be working with the private sector as well, very soon, because I think right now, most of what the private sector is doing is getting from A to B, having a better way to get from A, to B lower costs. You can’t really reuse a rocket from A to B and back, but the question is going to be like, what do you do when you get on B? How do you sustain life there? And if what we’re seeing with NASA is any indication, it’s more complicated than anybody on earth has ever worked on. And we’ve gotten good at sustaining life on ISS, but nobody’s ever been able to sustain life on the moon for a continuous basis, right . A long, long period. So that’s going to be, I think, a challenge for all of humanity to do that. And definitely the private sector will be part of that. So there are not already developed solutions, but at times what happens in the private sector you don’t care about because it’s a proprietary, but if they’re not already developing those solutions, they need to be doing that. And I think there’ll be working with NASA to develop those. Richard Miles: 24:39 I got to ask before we close Daniel, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that in 2024 or sometime after that NASA calls you up and says, professor Yeh, we really need someone knows what they’re doing to install the first space toilet. Would you be willing to go to the moon and spend however long it takes to put one of your inventions on the moon? Daniel Yeh: 24:55 Absolutely, but I do hate roller coasters . So I’m not sure how I’m going to survive liftoff. Richard Miles: 25:01 So avoid the rollercoaster test for as long as you can and maybe NASA won’t notice. I got to say, it’s fantastic. What you’ve done. See progress that you’ve made since we first met you in 2014, I was glad to see that at least a couple of your members of your original team are still with you. I think right from new generator is fantastic and glad to see that and wish you all the best as you continue to research. And certainly as you continue this development for Artemis, Daniel Yeh: 25:23 Thank you, Richard, you mentioned members of the team and I just have to say that this podcast right now, is it me? I’m the person that’s sitting behind the microphone, but this truly has been a team effort from the get go . And I think I’ve been just very lucky to have had really good people, really good students that I work with. And students usually there’s a passion that drives them. They bring their own skill set and perspective to the team and oftentime my role is to just kind of steer them in the right direction. And it’s sometimes I just get out of the way and let them do their thing. So I’ve been very lucky to have that good people. I mentioned people on the original team. One of them is Robert Baer and he’s just been the key person behind the scenes. Richard Miles: 25:58 Well, that sounds perfect boss. Right? You inspire people and they need to step out of the way, right. And go have a sandwich or something. Right? Let your team, figured out the hard stuff. Daniel Yeh: 26:05 I think a good leader knows when to step out of the way, because you’re not necessarily the smartest guy in the room. And if you do your job, you shouldn’t be the smartest guy in the room. Richard Miles: 26:13 No , absolutely. I’ve heard that before. I’ve said it in the show as well. If you are the smartest guy in the room, something’s wrong, you know, you need to go find some other workers or organization, cause that’s probably not a good sign, but Daniel, thank you very much for joining us on Radio Cade and wish you the best of luck and hope to have you back on the show. Daniel Yeh: 26:28 Thank you, Richard. It’s been a pleasure. Great talking to you. Outro: 26:31 Radio Cade is produced by the Cade Museum for Creativity and Invention located in Gainesville, Florida. Richard Miles is the podcast host and Ellie Thom coordinates, inventor interviews, podcasts are recorded at Heartwood Soundstage and edited and mixed by Bob McPeak . The Radio Cade theme song was produced and performed by Tracy Collins and features violinists, Jacob Lawson.

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  Bill Kelly's blogs: www.jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com And www.jfkcountercoup2.blogspot.com Founding member of COPA and a Board Member of CAPA CAPA's conference on 22nd and 23rd November (2019) titled CAPA November in Dallas Book your seats Mock Court of Inquiry at the event on Friday morning Texas Code of Criminal Procedure - Ch.52.01 - Court of Inquiry The Texas Court of Inquiry cannot convict anyone but it can exonerate someone of a crime CAPA's legal team for the Court of Inquiry: Bill Simpich, Larry Schnapf, John Orr The mock Court of Inquiry is open to ALL attendees of the conference The Oral History Collection at the Sixth Floor Museum Oliver Stone and Jim DiEugenio's new documentary series JFK: Destiny Betrayed John Newman to speak on Saturday about how Antonio Veciana was run by the army intelligence and not the CIA Former Warren Commission (WC) Attorney Burt Griffin backed out of the event Former CIA Moscow Chief of Station Ralph Larsen also to speak at the event Live audio of the CAPA Event may be broadcasted on Black Op Radio Oliver Stone to be presented with the CAPA Profile in Courage award Bill Kelly's presentation titled Oliver Stone's Mercedes Video: Oliver Stone Testifies Before Congress on Government Records (1992) Kelly to speak on the top ten files that have been released And also on the unreleased documents Ex-CIA officers like Robert Baer, Brian Latell supported the WC conclusion Become a member of CAPA; details here CAPA is trying for a Congressional Hearing on the JFK Act in Washington DC garrison.: The Journay of History and Deep Politics by S.T. Patrick, www.midnightwriternews.com Featuring articles of various good researchers Buy garrison. journal Issue 001: Paperback, PDF (e-book) Buy garrison. journal Issue 002: Paperback, PDF (e-book) Buy garrison. journal Issue 003: Paperback, PDF (e-book) The Walker shooting Truth is our only client film featuring Ruth Paine "I think the client was poorly served" Bill to review the film in the coming weeks "You're either pregnant or you're not. You can't have it both ways" - Dr. Cyril Wecht Ruth and Michael Paine were never questioned by the HSCA or the ARRB  

Why Does the CIA Not Spy On the UAE?; Is the Mentor MBZ Giving Up On His Protege MBS?; Trump Goes to Bat for Putin Again

In this episode, world-renowned Middle East expert and ex-CIA operative Bob Baer sits down with Federation past president Sabra Minkus to discuss a variety of topics, including the rise of anti-Semitism in the U.S., the climate for Jews abroad, and his recently-concluded History Channel program, Hunting Hitler. Dr. Baer will be the Jewish Federation of New Mexico’s 2019 featured speaker Monday, January 21 at the James A. Little Theater in Santa Fe, where he will deliver a lecture and sign copies of his many award-winning books. Stay tuned to www.jewishnewmexico.org for ticket information.

What happened between President Donald Trump and Russia's Vladimir Putin during their one-on-one meeting July 16 in Helsinki may not be fully known for a long time -- if ever. But on this episode, we look at the historic press conference between the two and the fallout afterward. Reuters White House Correspondent Jeff Mason explains what it was like to be in the room. And Robert Baer, who worked almost a decade on Russia issues for the CIA, explains the disgust his former colleagues felt watching the press conference, during which Trump seemed to side with Putin against them.

Does that person sitting next to you on the airplane REALLY work in IT? Plus, a tribute to the bedazzled sausage of the desert southwest, and more fun with pirates. Guests: ex-CIA operative Robert Baer, gila meister Dan Beck, and lady pirate expert Laura Sook Duncombe. Special thanks to callers “anonymous” and Eric — and to all of the listeners who sent us pirate questions. Have a question that needs answering? Call the ELT Help Line: #(833) RING ELT. To find a list of our sponsors and show-related promo codes, go to gimlet.media/OurAdvertisers 

Michael Tatham, Britain's deputy ambassador to the U.S., warns Russia "to stop testing Western countries in aggressive, counterproductive ways that increase international tension." If Russia doesn't, cooperate, former CIA officer Robert Baer says Russian President Vladimir Putin's personal fortune should be targeted. Both make their cases on this episode of Target USA.

On Monday, Dec. 11, a 27-year-old man triggered a strapped-on suicide vest inside a crowded pedestrian tunnel under New York's Port Authority. He was allegedly upset about Christmas posters and other geopolitical issues inside the corridor he targeted. For some reason, the bomb didn't work the way Akayed Ullah, who pledged allegiance to the Islamic State, had intended it to. It granted everyone around him and brought to the forefront again the general danger that terrorists pose, the specific dreadful nature of a suicide bomber, and the Justice Department's urgent concern about a key tool to fight terrorists that is set to expire on Dec. 31 unless reauthorized by Congress. Department of Justice Associate Attorney General Rachel Brand joined Target USA to explain why Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act is so important. Former CIA case officer Robert Baer and counterterrorism expert Fred Burton, vice president of intelligence at Stratfor, also joined us describe the evolving terrorism landscape.

Faycal Gouia, Tunisia's Ambassador to the US, tells Target USA that Tunisia has built a 100-mile wall along its border with Libya. It's also installing a sophisticated, partially U.S.-funded surveillance system to keep terrorists out. Robert Baer, a former CIA covert operative, who is very familiar with those borders, tells Target USA he's not sure that's enough.

Former CIA officer Robert Baer discusses political assassination on The Steve Fast Show. #assassin #CIA #RobertBaer

It’s game time, folks! This current series consists of four films that for all intents and purposes are not related, except for one connection they all have. And that’s the game — guess the connection. We won’t be announcing the films ahead of time — you’ll have to wait until they’re released to see what the films are. And when the podcast about the fourth film in our series is released on Friday, March 13th, the first person to post the correct connection on Facebook or Twitter will win a Next Reel T-shirt! Think you’ve got what it takes? Then tune in for clues and play along! First up, “Syriana." After Stephen Gaghan wrote “Traffic” for Steven Soderbergh, Soderbergh introduced him to Robert Baer’s book “See No Evil,” and Gaghan knew the next complex multi-story film he wanted to write. After years of researching around the world, he brought “Syriana” to the world and, while well received, both critics and audiences alike found it very complicated and confusing. Join us — Pete Wright and Andy Nelson — as we begin our Mystery series with Gaghan’s 2005 film “Syriana.” We talk about why Andy likes it so much — loves it in fact — and what he gets out of it, as well as why Pete finds it to be 20 minutes of a brilliant ending preceded by tedium. We chat about the countless famous faces gracing the screen in this film and how they each do, particularly Matt Damon, George Clooney, Jeffrey Wright and Alexander Siddig. We discuss the roles each of them play and how their stories connect, as well as the fascinating element of fathers and sons in the story. We discuss the politics within the film as well as the terrorism and the corporate greed. And we cover some of the technical elements, like the editing, the camera work and the score. It’s a film that even we find divisive but one that is definitely saying something. Tune in! Hey! You know what would be awesome? If you would drop us a positive rating on iTunes! If you like what we’re doing here on TNR, it really is the best way to make sure that this show appears when others search for it, plus, it’s just a nice thing to do. Thanks!! The Next Reel on iTunes The Next Reel on Facebook The Next Reel on Twitter The Next Reel on Flickchart The Next Reel on Letterboxd Guess the Movie with The Next Reel on Instagram Check out the Posters with The Next Reel on Pinterest And for anyone interested in our fine bouquet of show hosts: Follow Andy Nelson on Twitter Follow Pete Wright on Twitter Follow Steve Sarmento on Twitter Check out Tom Metz on IMDB Follow Mike Evans on Twitter Follow Chadd Stoops on Twitter Follow Steven Smart on Letterboxd

It's game time, folks! This current series consists of four films that for all intents and purposes are not related, except for one connection they all have. And that's the game — guess the connection. We won't be announcing the films ahead of time — you'll have to wait until they're released to see what the films are. And when the podcast about the fourth film in our series is released on Friday, March 13th, the first person to post the correct connection on Facebook or Twitter will win a Next Reel T-shirt! Think you've got what it takes? Then tune in for clues and play along! First up, “Syriana." After Stephen Gaghan wrote “Traffic” for Steven Soderbergh, Soderbergh introduced him to Robert Baer's book “See No Evil,” and Gaghan knew the next complex multi-story film he wanted to write. After years of researching around the world, he brought “Syriana” to the world and, while well received, both critics and audiences alike found it very complicated and confusing. Join us — Pete Wright and Andy Nelson — as we begin our Mystery series with Gaghan's 2005 film “Syriana.” We talk about why Andy likes it so much — loves it in fact — and what he gets out of it, as well as why Pete finds it to be 20 minutes of a brilliant ending preceded by tedium. We chat about the countless famous faces gracing the screen in this film and how they each do, particularly Matt Damon, George Clooney, Jeffrey Wright and Alexander Siddig. We discuss the roles each of them play and how their stories connect, as well as the fascinating element of fathers and sons in the story. We discuss the politics within the film as well as the terrorism and the corporate greed. And we cover some of the technical elements, like the editing, the camera work and the score. It's a film that even we find divisive but one that is definitely saying something. Tune in! Hey! You know what would be awesome? If you would drop us a positive rating on iTunes! If you like what we're doing here on TNR, it really is the best way to make sure that this show appears when others search for it, plus, it's just a nice thing to do. Thanks!! The Next Reel on iTunes The Next Reel on Facebook The Next Reel on Twitter The Next Reel on Flickchart The Next Reel on Letterboxd Guess the Movie with The Next Reel on Instagram Check out the Posters with The Next Reel on Pinterest And for anyone interested in our fine bouquet of show hosts: Follow Andy Nelson on Twitter Follow Pete Wright on Twitter Follow Steve Sarmento on Twitter Check out Tom Metz on IMDB Follow Mike Evans on Twitter Follow Chadd Stoops on Twitter Follow Steven Smart on Letterboxd

It's game time, folks! This current series consists of four films that for all intents and purposes are not related, except for one connection they all have. And that's the game — guess the connection. We won't be announcing the films ahead of time — you'll have to wait until they're released to see what the films are. And when the podcast about the fourth film in our series is released on Friday, March 13th, the first person to post the correct connection on Facebook or Twitter will win a Next Reel T-shirt! Think you've got what it takes? Then tune in for clues and play along! First up, “Syriana."After Stephen Gaghan wrote “Traffic” for Steven Soderbergh, Soderbergh introduced him to Robert Baer's book “See No Evil,” and Gaghan knew the next complex multi-story film he wanted to write. After years of researching around the world, he brought “Syriana” to the world and, while well received, both critics and audiences alike found it very complicated and confusing. Join us — Pete Wright and Andy Nelson — as we begin our Mystery series with Gaghan's 2005 film “Syriana.” We talk about why Andy likes it so much — loves it in fact — and what he gets out of it, as well as why Pete finds it to be 20 minutes of a brilliant ending preceded by tedium. We chat about the countless famous faces gracing the screen in this film and how they each do, particularly Matt Damon, George Clooney, Jeffrey Wright and Alexander Siddig. We discuss the roles each of them play and how their stories connect, as well as the fascinating element of fathers and sons in the story. We discuss the politics within the film as well as the terrorism and the corporate greed. And we cover some of the technical elements, like the editing, the camera work and the score. It's a film that even we find divisive but one that is definitely saying something. Tune in!* * *Hey! You know what would be awesome? If you would drop us a positive rating on iTunes! If you like what we're doing here on TNR, it really is the best way to make sure that this show appears when others search for it, plus, it's just a nice thing to do. Thanks!!- [The Next Reel on iTunes](https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-reel/id478159328?mt=2)- [The Next Reel on Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/TheNextReel)- [The Next Reel on Twitter](http://twitter.com/thenextreel)- [The Next Reel on Flickchart](http://www.flickchart.com/thenextreel)- [The Next Reel on Letterboxd](http://letterboxd.com/thenextreel/)- [Guess the Movie with The Next Reel on Instagram](http://instagram.com/thenextreel)- [Check out the Posters with The Next Reel on Pinterest](http://pinterest.com/thenextreel)And for anyone interested in our fine bouquet of show hosts:- [Follow Andy Nelson on Twitter](http://twitter.com/sodacreekfilm)- [Follow Pete Wright on Twitter](http://twitter.com/petewright)- [Follow Steve Sarmento on Twitter](https://twitter.com/mr_steve23)- [Check out Tom Metz on IMDB](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1224453/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1)- [Follow Mike Evans on Twitter](https://twitter.com/ubersky)- [Follow Chadd Stoops on Twitter](https://twitter.com/ChaddStoops)- [Follow Steven Smart on Letterboxd](http://letterboxd.com/steamrobot/)

It's game time, folks! This current series consists of four films that for all intents and purposes are not related, except for one connection they all have. And that's the game — guess the connection. We won't be announcing the films ahead of time — you'll have to wait until they're released to see what the films are. And when the podcast about the fourth film in our series is released on Friday, March 13th, the first person to post the correct connection on Facebook or Twitter will win a Next Reel T-shirt! Think you've got what it takes? Then tune in for clues and play along! First up, “Syriana."After Stephen Gaghan wrote “Traffic” for Steven Soderbergh, Soderbergh introduced him to Robert Baer's book “See No Evil,” and Gaghan knew the next complex multi-story film he wanted to write. After years of researching around the world, he brought “Syriana” to the world and, while well received, both critics and audiences alike found it very complicated and confusing. Join us — Pete Wright and Andy Nelson — as we begin our Mystery series with Gaghan's 2005 film “Syriana.” We talk about why Andy likes it so much — loves it in fact — and what he gets out of it, as well as why Pete finds it to be 20 minutes of a brilliant ending preceded by tedium. We chat about the countless famous faces gracing the screen in this film and how they each do, particularly Matt Damon, George Clooney, Jeffrey Wright and Alexander Siddig. We discuss the roles each of them play and how their stories connect, as well as the fascinating element of fathers and sons in the story. We discuss the politics within the film as well as the terrorism and the corporate greed. And we cover some of the technical elements, like the editing, the camera work and the score. It's a film that even we find divisive but one that is definitely saying something. Tune in!* * *Hey! You know what would be awesome? If you would drop us a positive rating on iTunes! If you like what we're doing here on TNR, it really is the best way to make sure that this show appears when others search for it, plus, it's just a nice thing to do. Thanks!!- [The Next Reel on iTunes](https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-reel/id478159328?mt=2)- [The Next Reel on Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/TheNextReel)- [The Next Reel on Twitter](http://twitter.com/thenextreel)- [The Next Reel on Flickchart](http://www.flickchart.com/thenextreel)- [The Next Reel on Letterboxd](http://letterboxd.com/thenextreel/)- [Guess the Movie with The Next Reel on Instagram](http://instagram.com/thenextreel)- [Check out the Posters with The Next Reel on Pinterest](http://pinterest.com/thenextreel)And for anyone interested in our fine bouquet of show hosts:- [Follow Andy Nelson on Twitter](http://twitter.com/sodacreekfilm)- [Follow Pete Wright on Twitter](http://twitter.com/petewright)- [Follow Steve Sarmento on Twitter](https://twitter.com/mr_steve23)- [Check out Tom Metz on IMDB](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1224453/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1)- [Follow Mike Evans on Twitter](https://twitter.com/ubersky)- [Follow Chadd Stoops on Twitter](https://twitter.com/ChaddStoops)- [Follow Steven Smart on Letterboxd](http://letterboxd.com/steamrobot/)

Throughout history, from Cesar thru Lincoln,  from Archduke Ferdinand and Gandhi through the Kennedys and Malcolm X, a bullet has changed the world.But what’s different when assassination is not a random deranged act, but an instrument of policy.  First, it’s the stuff of movies.  Think about it;  The Manchurian Candidate, Day of the Jackal, Executive Action, Parallax View, to name a few.  Add to this list, Syriana, a story based on the life of former CIA operative Robert Baer.Baer has now codified his unique line of work in The Perfect Kill: 21 Laws for AssassinsMy conversation with Robert Baer: 

President Barack Obama said he "absolutely makes no apologies" for seeking the release of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl in a prisoner swap with the Taliban, vigorously defending an exchange that has caused a furor in the United States and has dogged the president on his European trip this week. Former CIA Agent Robert Baer joins The Roe Conn Show with Richard Roeper to discuss this story.

President Barack Obama said he "absolutely makes no apologies" for seeking the release of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl in a prisoner swap with the Taliban, vigorously defending an exchange that has caused a furor in the United States and has dogged the president on his European trip this week. Former CIA Agent Robert Baer joins The Roe Conn Show with Richard Roeper to discuss this story.

. Till veckans program om den storpolitiska kampen i Mellanöstern intevjuade Mikael Olsson den tidigare CIA-agenten Robert Baer om vad som sker i det maktvakuum som uppstått efter det amerikanska återtåget och - som Baer ser det - misslyckandet i Irak. Intervjun gjordes onsdagen den 18 januari och är på engelska.

While Western countries prepare for tougher sanctions at the UN against Iran regarding its nuclear development, China is reluctant to impose any further sanctions, intensifying the tension between Beijing and Washington. However, increasing signs, including Hu Jintao’s upcoming visit to Washington to attend the nuclear summit, have shown that China may be preparing for an about-turn on Iranian sanctions. Indeed, China is in a tough spot in this situation as Iran has always been its important strategic partner and oil provider. Through delicate maneuvering in the Middle East, China is undoubtedly maximizing concessions from both Iran and the West.  Scandal broke out last month involving a number of deaths in Shanxi and Jiangsu among infants and toddlers that appear to be related to bad vaccinations. The crisis was eventually attributed to the private companies that take over the vaccines through local health administrations. How the government will manage this situation, coming after the melamine crisis, is still waiting to be seen. In this week’s installment, host Kaiser Kuo discusses these two issues with Bill Bishop, a tech entrepreneur and blogger at DigiCha.com and Sinocism.com, and William Moss, who writes the blog imagethief.com. How should we interpret China’s signs of willingness to support sanctions on Iran over nuclear weapons development? Will the vaccination scandal become another melamine crisis, or does evidence point to this blowing over quickly? References: The Iran Nuclear Issue: The View from Beijing, by Stephanie Kleine-Ahlbrandt The Race for Iran blog The Devil We Know: Dealing with the New Iranian Superpower, by Robert Baer 山西疫苗乱象调查：近百名儿童注射后或死或残, by王克勤

Former State Department official Matthew Hoh and former CIA agent Robert Baer answer the question: What is fueling the insurgency in Afghanistan?

Peter's guest today is Robert Baer who served for many years as a CIA operative in the Middle East. Among other things, Bob talks about his tour of duty in Lebanon, the psychology of suicide bombers, and the emerging threat of Iran. He also discusses the movie Syriana, which is based on his book, See No Evil.