Its Never Too Late

We're pretty sure Co-host Ray Miller Still is a millennial. It doesn't do to make too much of a point. Ray is the editor of the Enumclaw Courier Herald which is the only paper of that name in the United States.  This Week we're joined by our Producer, Jason Falls, who is a member Generation X.  Swimming Upstream Host Dorothy Wilhelm is a member of The Silent Generation.  For those who are thinking, "C'mon, she's never been silent a day in her life", that name refers to the fact that members of that generation never protested. They followed the rules.  On today's show, Generation Gap covers Weddings.  We're talking about weddings - are they necessary? We'll look at how each generation has seen them and what we know now that we didn't know earlier. In the 50's, weddings were not generally fairy tale events. Dorothy recalls that her wedding dress cost $50- you couldn't buy a shoelace for that today, but remember at  that time, a semester's college tuition was $80. People made their own finery  - or did without.  Dorothy recut three prom dresses for her bridesmaids.  The high point of the reception was pulling her 12 year old brother out of the bourbon fountain.  We looked for different things in the 50's. But as the decades went by, the weddings became more and more lavish with  unforgettable ball gowns, 25-foot-long train, and perhaps arrival via horse-drawn carriage—inspired a generation of brides to embrace the more-is-more aesthetic of the 1980s for their weddings. “It was part of the Superwoman myth of the 1980s—you could work at home, and you could work in the marketplace; you could be married, but you could also have a career,” says Karen Dunak. “There was this idea that you could be a strong woman and also be a bride like a princess on your wedding day.” Weddings became increasingly opulent, elaborate, and lavish, while remaining a symbol of wealth and status for the bride's parents. “In the ‘80s, ‘90s, and even early aughts, it was all big, big, big," affirms Miss Manners."Very few people were doing the small-wedding thing. So what are we talking about on the show?  Let's take a look at how different our expectations are.  When Dorothy was engaged, nice girls didn't rush the wedding celebration so it  was no problem thinking of things to do after the ceremony.  Today a destination wedding seems a requirement.  The different  generations will have a lot to say about that. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Terri Thal was a vital presence in the 1960s Greenwich Village folk music world, where she played a pivotal role as Bob Dylan's first manager at just 21 years of age. At the heart of it all, she witnessed—and helped shape—one of the most important cultural movements of 20th-century America,"  Essayist Frank Matheis wrote those words about Terri Thal in his candid account, A Life of Grace and Grit: The Legacy of Terri Thal. Frank is also a guest on today's show and will share thoughts from his essay.   Terri was a multi-faceted music manager and lifelong activist. Thal has chronicled her remarkable journey in her tenderly-told 2023 memoir, My Greenwich Village – Dave, Bob and Me (McNidder & Grace). A multi-faceted music manager and lifelong activist, Thal has chronicled her remarkable journey in her tenderly-told 2023 memoir, My Greenwich Village – Dave, Bob and Me (McNidder & Grace), suffused with a candid account of the early folk scene and her intersection with two of its towering figures: Dave Van Ronk and Bob Dylan.  Her book comes at just the right time to tell the rest of the story outlined in the popular Dylan bio pic, A Complete Unknown. It was a good movie, she says - but incomplete. Characters were combined, or simply disappeared she says, and she's glad to fill in the spots with personal anecdotes that only she can tell. Matheis goes on, "In the early 1960s, New York's Greenwich Village was the epicenter of the American folk music revival. The Village pulsed with raw creativity and political passion, serving as the heart of the American folk music revival and a haven for artists, poets, activists, and dreamers. Its smoke-filled bars, clubs, and coffee houses overflowed with acoustic guitars, protest songs, and youthful rebellion.   Shortly after a 21-year-old Bob Dylan arrived in the city, Terri Thal became his first manager. She was already managing her husband, Dave Van Ronk—later dubbed the “Mayor of MacDougal Street”—and would go on to work with artists such as Maggie and Terre Roche, Paul Geremia, and the Holy Modal Rounders. In one of her most historically significant contributions, she recorded Dylan performing six songs at the Gaslight Café in September 1961—what would become known as “Bob Dylan's first demo tape.” That tape was the first step that propelled the “complete unknown” into national consciousness. She even reflects on the one that got away. Thal had a chance to manage James Taylor, but she turned him down. “He was just starting out,” she reminisces. “I thought he'd probably become very good, but he wasn't making the kind of music that excited me then, and I could only work with musicians who did.”  We'll be joined by Matheis who interviewed her for The Inspirational Art Group.  Frank Matheis is a music, arts and culture writer and a contributing writer to the Inspiration Art Group International. His two current book projects are titled “Outrage Channeled in Verse – American Protest Songs in the Trump Era,” and “Rooted in Wonder – My Journey from Earth Child to Naturalist” with Jenny Richards. He is also a contributing writer to Living Blues magazine (Center for Southern Culture Studies) and the publisher/editor of thecountryblues.com. Frank was formerly an award-winning radio producer. He is also a published photographer, curator and video producer. Terri's piece on the Rock and the Beat Generation Substack: https://simonwarner.substack.com/p/terri-thal-2-that-dylan-movie   Frank's Piece on Terri https://inspirationartgroup.org/essays/terri-thal/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to an all-new episode of the Swimming Upstream Radio Show. Dorothy's guest this week is Sandra Solon — The Crafty Canadian. Dorothy and she talk about her recent trip to India, all the things you didn't know about tea, and ideas for summer crafts for your family. And don't forget to subscribe to the Swimming Upstream Radio Show. You can find us on our website at SwimmingUpstreamRadioShow.com, YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to an all-new episode of the Swimming Upstream Radio Show. Dorothy's guest this week is Regina Carey. As the "Queen of Action" and a seasoned advocate for professionals with invisible disabilities, Regina specializes in reigniting passion within hearts that may have temporarily forgotten to focus on themselves and their dreams. Whether you're living with ADHD, chronic pain, anxiety, or learning disabilities, she helps you rediscover your values, recognize your strengths, and embrace your unique self. And don't forget to subscribe to the Swimming Upstream Radio Show. You can find us on our website at SwimmingUpstreamRadioShow.com, YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to an all-new episode of the Swimming Upstream Radio Show. This week as usual on Generation Gap, Dorothy talks to Ray Miller Still. He is the editor of The Courier Herald.  And don't forget to subscribe to the Swimming Upstream Radio Show. You can find us on our website at SwimmingUpstreamRadioShow.com, YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to this all-new episode of Dorothy Wilhelm's  Swimming Upstream Radio Show. Dorothy's guest this week is dynamic communications expert  Rebecca P. Murray. As the founder of her own podcast,  Showcase Your Shine in the Northwest, Rebecca is passionate about transforming team dynamics by refining the art of listening, presenting, and facilitating. She'll share what she's learned about the power of your voice - and Folger's coffee. Find her on her website at rebeccapmurray.com or on LinkedIn. And don't forget to subscribe to the Swimming Upstream Radio Show. You can find us on our website at SwimmingUpstreamRadioShow.com, YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.

Host: DOROTHY WILHELM - Dorothy Wilhelm is a columnist, humorist, speaker and broadcaster who has entertained audiences from Bangkok to Nashville for more than four decades. Dorothy hosted Beacon Award winning My Home Town on Comcast TV and for the past decade has hosted Swimming Upstream Radio Show on the SOB Radio network. (That stands for Spunky Old Broads.) www.swimmingupstreamradioshow.com  CLIMB EVERY MOUNTAIN - PART 2 Executive Coach Reginaa Perry and author Joyce Perrin talk about their successful climbs of Macchu Piccu and Kilimanjaro. What the learned from it, and would they do it again? At least one of the climbers says NO. #mountainclimber, #livestrong, #mountaineer, #alpinism, #adventure, #climbingliife  

Host: DOROTHY WILHELM - Dorothy Wilhelm is a columnist, humorist, speaker and broadcaster who has entertained audiences from Bangkok to Nashville for more than four decades. Dorothy hosted Beacon Award winning My Home Town on Comcast TV and for the past decade has hosted Swimming Upstream Radio Show on the SOB Radio network. (That stands for Spunky Old Broads.) www.swimmingupstreamradioshow.com CLIMB EVERY MOUNTAIN - PART 1 Executive Coach Regina Carey climbed Macchu Piccu this summer. She got help and advice from Joyce Perrin, now 87 who climbed Mt. Kilimanjaro twenty years ago. in Part 1, they talk about the preparation and how they helped each other. #mountainclimber, #livestrong, #mountaineer, #alpinism, #adventure, #climbingliife  

Don't Mess With My Summer Vacation

USTICE RICHARD GUY  analyzes the first Presidential Debate

DOROTHY WILHELM - Dorothy Wilhelm is a columnist, humorist, speaker and broadcaster who has entertained audiences from Bangkok to Nashville for more than four decades. Dorothy hosted Beacon Award winning My Home Town on Comcast TV and for the past decade has hosted Swimming Upstream Radio Show on the SOB Radio network. (That stands for Spunky Old Broads.) www.swimmingupstreamradioshow.com WHAT'S HAPPENED TO KIDS TODAY?   Coach Jim Johnson shares his experience working with teens. #troubledteens, #teenmentalhealth, #selfcare, #kids, #raisingteens

Generation Gap –  Ray Miller Still – rstill@courierherald.com (mailto:rstill@courierherald.com)     How the Generations are pushing each other apart.

Host: DOROTHY WILHELM - Dorothy Wilhelm is a columnist, humorist, speaker and broadcaster who has entertained audiences from Bangkok to Nashville for more than four decades. Dorothy hosted Beacon Award winning My Home Town on Comcast TV and for the past decade has hosted Swimming Upstream Radio Show on the SOB Radio network. (That stands for Spunky Old Broads.) www.swimmingupstreamradioshow.com  - GENERATION GAP– LET ME GIVE YOU SOME GOOD ADVICE Ray Miller Still with Coach Jim Johnson, how meaningful advice changes as the generations change. Including advice from Dorothy's son and grandson. #generationaladvice, #stayinyourlane, #intergenertinaladvice, #communicate, #advice

Great ideas for summer fun with the Kids - Grandma's Roundtable

-Traveling - having fun - with disabilities - Let's visit Grandma! Safe Fun Travel with Handicaps or Health Conditions Marjorie Turner Hollman - marjorie@marjorieturner.com -  

WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING AT THE TRUMP TRIAL  JUSTICE RICHARD GUY AND HISTORIAN BIL NELSON ANALYZE WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING AT THE TRUMP TRIAL 

COWBOY ART IS ALIVE AND WELL AND LIVING IN PUYALLUP, WA Joella Oldfield foldfield@comcast.net:  (253)241-3254 Joella Oldfield of the Fred Oldfield Western Heritage Center, talks about the trend toward rediscovering Western Art. 10:50 Standing Patt - Dr. Patt Schwab - How to Keep Abreast of Humorpattschwab@icloud.com) Phone: 206-525-1031

Generation Gap –  Ray Miller Still – rstill@courierherald.com (mailto:rstill@courierherald.com)   Phone: (360)802-8220 The Drug Problem. It's even worse than you thought.

THE GIRLS FROM LIBBY Marcia Tomlin and Dorothy meet 80 years after growing up in two tiny neighboring Montana Towns. Marcia's Hometown destroyed Dorothy's Hometown, but we shouldn't get too spunup in that.

Standing Patt --- Lady D LEGENDARY BLACK HEROES Standing Patt - Dr. Patt Schwab - Grandpa was a Circus Star! pattschwab@icloud.com)  StandingPatt, #circus,#FlyingTrapeze LEGENDARY BLACK HEROES: Lady D! The Tuskegee Airmen

WALTER NEARY - NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH - wneary@uw.edu "If I was still in local journalism - a field that is so scarce right now - I know what I'd be reporting on right now." longtime newspaperman tells how to know if the news you're reading is true.. #realnews, #trump, #fakenews, #truenews, #journalism. #trump, #fakenews, #truenews, #journalism.

- Generation Gap – Ray Miller Still – rstill@courierherald.com Slang is generally a bit wittier and cleverer than Standard American English. Slang is everywhere— and youth slang, in particular, exerts enormous power. Ray explores current slang words that Dorothy never heard of.  Is Quiet Quitting really a new idea? #GenerationGap, #Americanslang, #Quiet Quitting, #generations, #millenials

Lesia Alexander - Animal Behavior expert heartandsoulwithanimals@gmail.com      You love your animals. Do you feel baffled about what they need and what to do? Lesia decodes animal behaviors for animal well being, bringing you peace of mind and harmony to your home. #heartandsoulwithanimals, #animalbehavior, #animalcommunicator

The tables are turned - Historian Don Trosper Interviews historical host Dorothy Wilhelm  Don Trosper dontrosper@outlook.com Dorothy@swimmingupstreamradioshow.com #history, #sharingstories, #Washington

Patt Schwab and Lady D STANDING PATT: DR. PATT SCHWAB and FENG SHUI - Patt discovers why she never seems to meet younger fellows. pattschwab@icloud.com #fengshui, #love, #astrology, #interiordesign, #kittylitter, #mantras, #lifestyle LEGENDARY BLACK HEROES: THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN Lady D recalls the story of the valiant airmen. htpps://Swimming Upstream.com #happybirthdaytuskegeeairmen, #redtails, #heroes, #EleanorRoosevelt

Generation Gap - Ray Miller Still - What's the New Word? Ray and Dorothy talk about the 1700 new words added to Dictionary.com  (mailto:rstill@courierherald.com)     #Generationgap,#newword, #saywhat, #Dictionary, #morewords

Ants in my pants - Joyce Perrin -world traveler and author gives tips for women traveling alone. She's covered most of the globe and she's still only 84.  joyce.perrin.author@gmail.com  #sheisnotlost, #antsinmy pants, #Girlsaroundtheworld, #Ladiesgoneglobal

-The DMV and THE COMPTON COWBOYS Standing Patt: Dr. Patt Schwab recalls a surprising trip to the DMV #DMV, #weightloss, #memories, #standPatt, #speaker, #keynote  LEGENDARY BLACK HEROES: THE COMPTON COWBOYS Lady D #LegendaryBlackeroes, #BlackHistory, #Black Excellence, #BlackLivesMatter

Generation Gap – YOU CALL THAT ROMANCE? Ray Miller Still We look at what's different in romance between what's romantic today - and in yesteryear. Practically everything!! rstill@courierherald.com  #millenials, #bestgeneration, #talkradioshows, #millenialmemories, #momjokes

- GETTING READY FOR HAPPY TIMES -Sandra Solon The Crafty Canadian has ideas for staying happy and calm even in high stress times  #CraftyCanadian, #happyday, #crafty. #creative, craftycanadianstudios@gmail.com

February 12 - Generation Gap Ray Miller Still – ed@courierherald.com Ray and Dorothy invent a new Generation Gap game.  #GenerationGap, #mindthegap, #newgame, #generationgap, #millenials, #babyboomers

REGINA CAREY - GIVE YOURSELF A VALENTINE The Queen of Action shares ideas for creating special Valentines for the most important person you know - yourself. #queenofaction, #coachmecarey, ##valentine, #HappyValentinesDay

, Beating the Winter Blues and Blahs - Sandra Solon- The Crafty Canadian An Advent Calendar for long, cold winter days. #theclosetqueen, #CraftyCanadian, #wintercrafts, #diycrafts, #bluedays

, You Can't Ruin My Day! Author Allen Klein   52 wake up calls to turn every situation around. http://alllenklein.com/ #jollytologist, #humor, #funny, #cantruinmyday, #love, #forgiveyourself, #potatoes

, Standing Patt, Dr. Patt Schwab "My Brother, The Unsuccessful Criminal      Legendary Black Heroes - Things you Didn't Know About Martin Luther King #MLKDday, #LegendaryBlackHeroes, #Unsuccessfulcriminal, #martinlutherking, #mlk

SQUIDminders - Start the new year with a new and create approach to life. Dr. Mel believes that if we can only become SQUIDMINDED, our lives will change for the better.  melissaganus@gmail.com #SQUIDMINDER, #SQUIDminders, #creative living, #emotionalbrain, #SQUIDbrain, #SQUID

Generation Gap – Ray Miller Still Differences in how the generations celebrate Christmas and maybe some ideas for Christmas with very young and very old family members.  Ray Miller Still #merrychristmas, #howtoconfuseamillenial, #Christmas2023, #Christmas Wish, Christmaslist

HOLIDAY TIPS, IDEAS AND WARNINGS Creative Panel shares ideas for celebrating Christmas and Kwanzaa Gina Carey - Queen of Action - coachmecarey@gmail.com (mailto:coachmecarey@gmail.com) Diedri Webb - Legendary Black Heroes - diedridixon@yahoo.com Dorothy Wilhelm - Dorothy@SwimmingUpstream.com #christmaslights, #naughtylist, #christmasgoodies, #nicelist, #kwanzaa

Amber Simonsen –THRIVE AT WORK and DURING THE HOLIDAYS How can you balance, manage, and even thrive at work and at home during the holidays? Amber@abetter40.com #thrive, #abetter40, #teamwork, #instagoodteamwork,#thrivexperience, #alwaysthrive

Do You Think Chocolate Grows On Trees? Chocolate Maker - Jan Calkins explores our love affair with chocolate. Dorothy Wilhelm hosts Dorothy@swimmingupstreamradioshow.com #Chocolate, #Chocolatemaker, #chocolatelovers, #darkchocolate, #craftchocolate.

Legendary Black Heroes - Diedri Webb celebrates Juneteenth with the story of Ida B. Wells, Truth Teller and first black woman journalist. Dorothy Wilhelm hosts Dorothy@swimmingupstreamradioshow.com #Juneteenth, #freedom, #TruthTeller, #blm, #happyjuneteenth, #blackwoman

Tacoma Boat Builders -In Tacoma WA, an idea for helping troubled youth turned from building boats to rebuilding lives. Paul Birkey. Dorothy Wilhelm hosts Dorothy@swimmingupstreamradioshow.com #TacomaBoatBuilders #atriskyouth #buildinglives, #Youthempowerment, #youthpower

Generation Gap - What do today's graduates have to look forward to? We'll try to have good news. Ray Miller Still rstill@courierherald.com    Dorothy Wilhelm Dorothy@swimmingupstreamradioshow.com #GenerationGap, #Graduation, #goodnews, #Grads, #classof2023, #Grad  

Helen Hesketh - Born Unwanted. Helen Hesketh knows about love and marriage. The mother of eight children she and her husband Joe have exchanged love letters daily for nearly the last 40 years of their marriage. Born Unwanted says a lot about how children are traumatized and how they can be saved. HelenDamonHesketh.author@gmail.com #BornUnwanted, #MarriageEncounter, #RSVPKingCounty, #GlobalBookAwards, #AmazonBooks

Generation Gap – with Coach Jim Johnson A Coach and a Miracle Ray Miller Still – rstill@courierherald.com     Jim Johnson - www.coachjimjohnson.com  This is the story of an incredible relationship between a high school student and his basketball coach. Coach Jim Johnson's sense of compassion led him to give an autistic, learning disabled team manager a once-in-a-lifetime chance—and how that boy seized the opportunity in such a stupendous way will not be forgotten anytime soon. This is a story about an event that the coach rates as a genuine, modern-day miracle. It is an important book for sports fans and for people who need to believe that miracles can still happen. It also reinforces the value of applying passion, goal-setting, perseverance, and teamwork to any of life's endeavors. ISBN: 978-0-9841318-7-7 #GenerationGap,#jjhoops, #J-Mac, #DickVitali, #JimNance, #life lessons, #NationalSpeakersAssociation, #AutismUp, #GreeceAthenaHS    

ROBBIE SAMUELS - BREAK OUT OF BOREDOM - new book. Robbie@robbiesamuels.com.          Robbie Samuels, Event Design Consultant and Executive Zoom Producer. Robbie is the author of three books. His latest, ​​"Break Out of Boredom: Low-Tech Solutions for Highly Engaging Zoom Events.” Break Out of Boredom is chock full of strategies, checklists, and step-by-step guides. The book's bonus content provides access to these resources as a download for easy reference.Today's guest has been recognized as a networking expert by NPR, PCMA, Harvard Business Review, Forbes, and Inc, and as an expert in virtual event design by JDC Events                                                #RobbieSamuels, #HarvardBusinessReview, #NPR, #Zoom, #HarvardBusinessReview, #ontheschmooze, #Ted-x, #Amazon, #trans-authors

Red Letter Days _ to celebrate from Patt Schwab with Diedri Webb Patt gives us days to celebrate and Diedri celebrates Legendary Black Heroes.This month Diedri profiles Black Panther founder Huey Newton who, with Bobby Seale, electrified America in the summer of 1966. The results are still being felt today.  http://diedridixon@yahoo.com   pattschwab@icloud.com  #redletterdays, #calendargirl,#Dr.Patt, #Legendaryblackheroes, #BlackPanthers, #HueyPNewton, #BobbySeale, #BlackPantherParty, #blackpower, #BPP

The Parental Edge - Sari Goodman - Certified Parental Educator has the answers to the questions you were hoping nobody would ask. We can't help worrying about our kids. Sari shares her decades of expertise. theparentaledge.com            https://swimmingupstreamradioshow.com   #parents #kids #parenteducator #strategy #solutions #familylife #tomorrow #swimmingupstream  

Generation Gap – Hard Words Quiz - Ray Miller Still Exploring the words you can count on to cause hurt feelings and misunderstanding between the generations. rstill@courierherald.com    https://swimmingupstreamradioshow.com #GenerationGap #Hardwords #love #caring #Quiz #generations #feelings #swimmingupstream

Legendary Black Heroes - Diedri Dixon Celebrating Black History Month, it's Bass Reeves, the first black US Marshall, who may have been the inspiration for The Lone Ranger  https://swimmingupstreamradioshow.com #BlackHistoryMonth #theLoneRanger #Blackheroes #USMarshall #swimmingupstream