Podcasts about high functioning

How to Know If You're in the Loop (Even If You're High Functioning)You may seem fine on the outside, but internally feel trapped by OCD or anxiety. In this episode, Matt Codde, LCSW, explains how high-functioning individuals can still be stuck in the loop—and what true recovery really looks like.

In this insightful episode, I sit down with Dr. Judith Joseph, a leading psychiatrist and author of 'High Functioning: Overcome Your Hidden Depression and Start to Reclaim Your Joy.' We delve deep into the often misunderstood realm of high-functioning depression—where individuals maintain external success while silently struggling with inner turmoil. Dr. Joseph explains the differences between happiness and joy, the symptoms of high-functioning depression, and the crucial concept of anhedonia (a lack of joy and interest). She also shares practical advice on how to detect and address hidden depression before it leads to a crisis. This episode is for anyone who has ever been told, 'but you don't look depressed' and is seeking to understand the science of joy and happiness. Tune in to gain a fresh perspective and practical tools for reclaiming your mental well-being. 00:00 Understanding Clinical Depression Beyond Sadness 00:13 The Divide Between Happiness and Joy 01:46 Introducing Dr. Judith Joseph and Her New Book 02:12 Exploring High Functioning Depression 05:26 The Science of Happiness and Joy 10:05 Identifying and Addressing Anhedonia 14:16 The Importance of Preventative Mental Health 20:24 Balancing Success and Joy 27:34 The Impact of Social Circles on Joy 27:50 The Struggle of Sharing Difficulties 29:00 Invalidation and Toxic Friendships 29:57 Cultural and Religious Invalidation 31:26 Understanding High-Functioning Depression 32:41 The Importance of Validation 38:48 Mental Health Across Cultures 41:19 Supporting a Partner with Depression 48:16 Lifestyle Changes for High-Functioning Depression 50:55 Final Thoughts on High-Functioning Depression

Depression isn't just about a presence of sadness, it's also about an absence of happiness. And whilst ceasing to function is a long-understood symptom of Depression, those that cope by never stopping aren't necessarily in any less need of help. In this episode of Lively Minds we discuss High Functioning Depression with Dr. Judith Joseph, a board-certified psychiatrist and researcher. Dr. Joseph, who is also the founder and chief investigator at Manhattan Behavioral Medicine, discusses her groundbreaking research and the resulting book 'High Functioning: Overcoming Your Hidden Depression and Reclaiming Your Joy.' The conversation explores the distinction between high functioning depression and classic depression, the importance of early identification, and Dr. Joseph's innovative five V framework (validation, venting, values, vitals and vision) for cultivating joy and mental wellbeing. The episode emphasises the necessity of a proactive approach to mental health to prevent breakdowns and highlights the vital role of understanding trauma and anhedonia in managing depression.You can buy Dr Joseph's book: High Functioning at all good bookstores or find out more by clicking herePlease note that this show does not constitute medical advice and is not a replacement for seeking professional help. You can find out more about the show and get signposting to support on our website livelymindspod.comFollow @livelymindspod on social media, or see our links at  https://www.bio.link/livelyminds 00:00 Introduction to Lively Minds Podcast00:16 Meet Dr. Judith Joseph01:15 Understanding High Functioning Depression03:23 Proactive Mental Health Approaches04:37 Defining High Functioning Depression05:38 The Role of Trauma in High Functioning Depression07:54 Identifying Anhedonia17:15 Listener Engagement Break17:59 Exploring Masochistic Behaviours19:46 Understanding People Pleasing and Trauma21:41 Masochistic Personality Disorder Explained22:27 Big T vs. Small T Trauma27:01 Coping Mechanisms in High Functioning Depression30:13 The Five V Framework37:11 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

You can be successful, self-aware, and high-functioning—and still completely lose yourself in a relationship.   In this episode of The Divorce Revolution Podcast, I'm joined by integrative therapist and somatic practitioner Megan Sherer for a deeply honest conversation about how even the most self-sufficient women can unconsciously self-abandon when love is on the line. We unpack how nervous system conditioning, attachment styles, and childhood trauma shape our romantic patterns and why it's so hard to walk away from someone who feels like home, even when they aren't safe for your healing.   If you've been losing yourself in relationships that require you to shrink, fix, or prove your worth, this episode is for you.   Resources Mentioned: Megan's book: www.megansherer.com/book Sign up for ReNewU waitlist to get early access: https://products.ambershaw.com/signature-waitlist Nail Your Niche: https://ambershaw.samcart.com/products/nail-your-niche Cured Nutrition use code AMBER for 15% off: https://www.curednutrition.com/   What We Discuss: What self-abandonment actually looks like in high-functioning women Why emotionally unavailable partners can feel so familiar How nervous system dysregulation ties into who we choose and why The role of “somatic safety” in building real trust with yourself Why clarity is found in the body—not just the mind How to stop abandoning yourself and finally choose aligned love   Find more from Megan Sherer: Instagram: www.instagram.com/megansherer   Find more from Amber Shaw: Instagram: @msambershaw Website: ambershaw.com 

You're not needy. You're not the damsel in distress. You get shit done.But what if I told you that your excellence, your leadership, your "I've got this" attitude is actually a sophisticated form of codependency that's keeping you emotionally trapped?In this raw, unfiltered solo episode, I'm pulling back the curtain on the high-functioning codependency that disguises itself as strength but leaves you drowning in resentment while everyone else gets to rest.What You'll Discover:The Real Face of CodependencyWhy it's not about being needy—it's about needing to be needed so badly you abandon yourselfHow your "strength" became your prisonThe difference between being helpful and being codependentThe Hidden Traits That Don't Look CodependentYou anticipate others' needs before being asked (and call it leadership)You intellectualize feelings but avoid actually feeling themYou see your value in what you do, not who you areYou never ask for help but resent people who doHow It Shows Up Everywhere:At Work: You're the emotional air traffic controller managing everyone's moodsIn Parenting: You over-function for your kids while under-functioning for yourselfIn Love: You choose potential over reality and call it commitmentThe Codependent Loop That's Stealing Your Joy:Obsession (disguised as leadership)Control (disguised as being proactive)Resentment (disguised as martyrdom)Collapse (disguised as "having a lot on your plate")Hope (disguised as optimism)RepeatThe Hard Truth:You've built an empire on "not good enough." You're constantly chasing, constantly proving, constantly giving—but never arriving at that place where you feel genuinely fulfilled.Your life looks amazing on the outside. But on the inside? You're exhausted, disconnected, and wondering why success doesn't feel the way you thought it would.The Way Out:This isn't about becoming selfish or uncaring. It's about coming home to yourself. It's about moving from codependency to sovereignty—knowing who you are without all the masks and coping mechanisms.The Three A's:Awareness: Seeing these patterns without judgmentAcceptance: The gateway to transformationAction: Detachment, boundaries, and reparenting yourselfReal Talk:How much longer are you going to stay in this loop? How much longer will you pat yourself on the back for being "so strong" while your joy slips through your fingers every single day?The cost of doing nothing isn't just your well-being—it's your relationships, your health, and the woman you're meant to become.If This Hit You Like a Freight Train:This episode might be one to listen to twice. There's a lot here. And if you're sitting there thinking "holy shit, this is me"—that's your nervous system recognizing the truth.You have a choice right now. You can keep pretending these patterns are just "being responsible," or you can decide that today is the day you stop abandoning yourself for everyone else.Ready to break the cycle? Visit LisaCarpenter.ca/WWM and fill out the application. Let's have a real conversation about what it looks like to reclaim your life.If this episode rocked your world, share it with another high-functioning human who needs to hear this. That's how we change lives—one honest conversation at a time. Resources Mentioned:Work with Lisa: LisaCarpenter.ca/WWMFollow Lisa on Instagram: @LisaCarpenterInc"Codependency isn't about weak people. It's about people who have been conditioned to believe their worth depends on being needed, accepted or approved by others." - Ross Rosenberg

Dr. Judith Joseph is a Board Certified Psychiatrist, professor of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry at NYU Langone Medical Center. She has conducted over 100 clinical research studies in pediatric, adult, geriatric and women's mental health as the Principal Investigator of her research lab, Manhattan Behavioral Medicine. Dr. Joseph is also a leading voice in the fields of high-functioning depression and the science of happiness. Today on the show we discuss: why so many successful people still feel empty inside, why you can't “out achieve” your childhood trauma, the difference between burnout and depression, the real science of happiness and why chasing doesn't work, the hidden mental health crisis of high functioning depression, steps you can take to reclaim joy and happiness in your life and much more.  ⚠ WELLNESS DISCLAIMER ⚠ Please be advised; the topics related to health and mental health in my content are for informational, discussion, and entertainment purposes only. The content is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your health or mental health professional or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding your current condition. Never disregard professional advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard from your favorite creator, on social media, or shared within content you've consumed. If you are in crisis or you think you may have an emergency, call your doctor or 911 immediately. If you do not have a health professional who is able to assist you, use these resources to find help: Emergency Medical Services—911 If the situation is potentially life-threatening, get immediate emergency assistance by calling 911, available 24 hours a day. National Suicide Prevention Lifeline, 1-800-273-TALK (8255) or https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org.  SAMHSA addiction and mental health treatment Referral Helpline, 1-877-SAMHSA7 (1-877-726-4727) and https://www.samhsa.gov Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Send us a textFor 30 years, he fought a war inside his own mind without knowing who the enemy was.In this gripping and profoundly honest conversation, author Jonathan Camp joins Lira to share his story of living with undiagnosed bipolar disorder, depression, and dyslexia while navigating a life of British privilege and a demanding career in law enforcement. He was a high-functioning, successful man to the outside world, but internally he was battling a relentless cycle of chaotic highs and crushing lows, a struggle he believed was a personal failure of willpower.This episode is a rare, unflinching look inside the mind of someone grappling with complex mental health conditions. Jonathan provides a vocabulary for the invisible battles many people face, describing the "grey mist" of depression and the "sandstorm" of a bipolar crash with startling clarity. This is more than a story; it's a testament to the power of a proper diagnosis and the courage to seek help, even when you've been taught your entire life to handle it on your own.This is a must-listen for anyone who has ever felt like something was wrong but couldn't explain what. You will discover:The 30-Year-Old Diagnosis: The incredible story of how Jonathan finally got the answers that explained a lifetime of struggle and why it's never too late to get help.The Truth About Bipolar II: A raw, first-hand account of hypomania and the devastating crashes that follow, moving beyond clinical definitions to real, lived experience.Privilege vs. Pain: A candid discussion on why wealth and status are no defense against mental illness and how privilege can create its own unique barriers to seeking help.Rewriting Your Inner Narrative: Jonathan shares the powerful self-reflection tools he developed to redefine success, reclaim his peace, and turn his pain into a mission to help others.This conversation is a powerful message of hope that will leave you with a deeper understanding of the human mind and the incredible resilience of the human spirit.If this story moved you, please show your support by liking, following, and subscribing to the Self-Reflection Podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, and wherever you listen. Every subscription helps us amplify these crucial conversations and build a community where no one has to feel alone in their struggle.Support the showCall to Action: Engage with the Self-Reflection Podcast community! Like, follow, and subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube (Self-Reflection Podcast by Lira Ndifon), and all major podcast platforms. Share your insights and feedback—we value your contributions! Suggest topics you'd like us to explore. Your support amplifies our reach, sharing these vital messages of self-love and empowerment. Until our next conversation, prioritize self-care and embrace your journey. Grab your copy of "Awaken Your True Self" on Amazon. Until next time, be kind to yourself and keep reflecting.

This episode gets real. We're talking about something that's often hidden behind a smile, a to-do list, and a busy schedule — high-functioning depression.I open up about my own struggles with it… because honestly, I've been feeling drained. And if you're listening to this feeling exhausted but still “getting things done,” you might be going through it too.We dive into what high-functioning depression actually looks like, why it's so hard to recognize — even in ourselves — and how we can start healing without guilt. This isn't about having all the answers; it's about starting the conversation.If you've ever felt like you had to keep it all together for everyone else while falling apart on the inside — this one's for you.

If you're the one who holds it all together while quietly falling apart—this is for you.This episode breaks down why high-performing leaders stall out, ghost themselves, and feel quietly empty—despite doing everything “right.”It's not burnout. It's the hidden grief of surviving without being witnessed.

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Are you struggling with depression, self-sabotage, or anxiety that no one else can see? In this deeply honest episode of Ask Katie Anything, licensed therapist Kati Morton explains what high functioning depression really feels like and why you might feel so empty inside, even when life looks “perfect” on the outside. We'll explore how childhood trauma, emotional neglect, and attachment wounds shape your mental health today — and how they're connected to self-sabotage, memory gaps, and anxiety symptoms like itching or shaking. Kati shares practical steps to break free from guilt, reconnect with yourself, and start healing. My new book is available for pre-order: Why Do I Keep Doing This? → https://geni.us/XoyLSQ If you've ever felt stuck, this book is for you. I'd be so grateful for your support. Ask Kati Anything ep. 270 | Your mental health podcast, with Kati Morton, LMFT Questions & timestamps 1. Could you talk about high-functioning depression and what it really looks like? For context, I feel like I have a “perfect” life; supportive parents, a stable home, pets, a car, and all the basic things I need to live comfortably. I haven't experienced any trauma, and from the outside, everything seems fine... 00:00:43 2. I accept my flaws and want to grow, but I zone out or give up easily. I've been stagnant in my studies for 3 years. How do I build real, lasting change when it feels so hard to even begin? 00:12:07 3. I've recently realized there are a lot of things I do not remember about my childhood. My sibling was sharing stories and kept looking at me asking, “Do you remember that?” and I rarely did. We lived in the same house so how does she remember so much more than me? 00:17:49 4. Could you please explain why people itch when they are anxious? It's something I have recently started doing without even knowing it was related to my mental health. Could you please tell me why we do this? And how we might be able to stop? Thank you love your videos and podcasts! 00:22:29 5. My question is about attachment regarding military life, having a parent unavailable but not by choice. I often hear you mention your dad being gone for work frequently when you were a child and how you believe it has an effect on your upbringing. My dad was in the military for 25 years and was often gone during my childhood—not for super long periods (maybe 4 months max), but he left and returned so often... 00:29:11 6. I've been on a healing journey in the last 2 years in trauma therapy. I've worked a lot on myself with the big challenge of feeling my own feelings. I've learned to sit with my feelings and finally felt safe with my therapist. I've set boundaries with family, lost relationships, and even lost a pet during therapy... 00:38:59 7. My old therapist is having a baby and I will no longer be able to see her. She has been so helpful and I have been able to move on from her in the past (when I “graduated” DBT). All of the therapists I have had since seeing her don't quit live up. It's possible that she's my favorite person. How do I move forward with my life? 00:42:31 ONLINE THERAPY (enjoy 10% off your first month) While I do not currently offer online therapy, BetterHelp can connect you with a licensed, online therapist: https://betterhelp.com/kati PARTNERSHIPS Nick Freeman | nick@biglittlemedia.co Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Check out the JVN Patreon for exclusive BTS content, extra interviews, and much much more - check it out here: www.patreon.com/jvn  JVN is joined by the brilliant Dr. Judith Joseph, a board-certified psychiatrist and researcher, to explore high-functioning depression — what it is, how to recognize it, and why so many people struggle with it in silence. Together, they break down the signs that often go unnoticed, unpack the stigma around seeking help when things "seem fine," and share tools for finding support and healing. Whether you're curious about your own mental health or looking to better understand a loved one, this episode is for you.  Full Getting Better Video Episodes now available on YouTube.  Not A Phase.  Trans Lifeline Follow Dr. Judith Joseph on Instagram @drjudithjoseph  Follow us on Instagram @gettingbetterwithjvn Jonathan on Instagram @jvn Senior Producer, Chris McClure Producer, Editor & Engineer is Nathanael McClure Production support from Anne Currie and Chad Hall Our theme music is also composed by Nathanael McClure. Curious about bringing your brand to life on the show? Email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com. DISCLAIMER: This episode includes a discussion of mental health, including high-functioning depression, neurodivergence, and suicide. While we're joined by a licensed medical professional, the content of this podcast is intended for informational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listening to this episode does not establish a doctor-patient relationship. If you or someone you know is struggling, please seek help from a qualified healthcare provider. If you are in crisis or need immediate support, please contact a mental health professional or reach out to a suicide prevention hotline in your area. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode Mariska and I explore a term that was new to me , High Functioning Depression, which I learned about on another podcast, A Slight Change of Plans: When Productivity Becomes Pathological | A Slight Change of PlansI observe how in my experience there is often a connection between this type of depression and substance abuse challenges.

If you have an eating disorder but still function well in daily life, you may find yourself thinking “am I even sick at all”? On the outside, you appear to do just fine, but in reality, you're not fine at all. In this week's episode, I discuss not only why you're sick even if you still function relatively well, but also why this form of high-functioning eating disorder can actually be the most dangerous portrayal of an eating disorder. Do you feel like you need more help recovering from your eating disorder? Whether you struggle with anorexia, bulimia, OSFED, or other (un)diagnosed disordered eating issues, I'm here to help! I have just launched two new premium programs - the Residential Treatment From Home and The Breakthrough Boost program! For anyone who is ready to seriously boost their recovery and would like support along the way! Moreover, I've just launched an exciting ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠membership⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ opportunity, and updated my bootcamps to help you even better!So be sure to check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and sign-up or ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠contact me⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. You can also always DM me on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! If you have any questions that you would like me to answer on the podcast, you can fill out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠the form⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on my website, or send me a voice-note on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠SpeakPipe⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠!Would you like my advice 'on paper', create your own plan of action, and join our Facebook support group? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠guide⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠!

What if numbness is the hidden wound of high-functioning depression? In this episode, Shan sits down with Dr. Judith Joseph, a board-certified psychiatrist, clinical researcher, and internationally recognized mental health advocate. They dive deep into anhedonia, the loss of pleasure or interest in things that once brought you joy, and how it shows up, especially for those living with high-functioning depression. Dr. Joseph expands on how joy is our birthright and how it connects to our biopsychosocial blueprint. Expect insights on: ✨ How high-functioning depression operates ✨ Why anhedonia is so often overlooked ✨ The three-part psycho-socio-biological model that explains it ✨ How to begin reconnecting with your desire and vitality

You're showing up, doing the work, checking the boxes, but something feels…off. You're not falling apart, but you're not really okay either. And you're certainly not alone. This week on Hello Monday, Dr. Judith Joseph joins Jessi Hempel to name and unpack this experience: high functioning depression. Dr. Judith is a board-certified psychiatrist, researcher, and educator at Columbia and NYU. Her new book, High Functioning: Overcome Your Hidden Depression and Reclaim Your Joy, offers a roadmap for understanding and addressing a kind of mental health struggle that often goes unnoticed—and untreated. Together, Dr. Judith and Jessi explore: • What high functioning depression looks like—and how to recognize it in yourself and others • The five Vs method for healing: Validation, Values, Venting, Vitals, and Vision • The power of naming hard feelings like anhedonia • Why we must treat mental health as proactively as physical health • How small steps can help us reclaim joy This episode is a starting point for anyone who feels stuck in the motions but wants more from their life.

Crushing it professionally, but feeling empty inside? This is what Dr. Judith Joseph calls, “high-functioning depression.” Here's what's really happening: You're pathologically productive, wearing a mask of success while experiencing anhedonia — the clinical term for losing joy in things that once lit you up. In this episode, she breaks down the five V's framework that can restore your natural capacity for joy. What's one small thing you're going to plan joy into your week? Ready to take back control of your cellular biology? Join my FREE 3-Day Ultimate Detox Challenge starting June 23rd. I've taken the exact protocols I use with pro athletes and CEOs and simplified them for everyday implementation. Sign up here: https://bit.ly/3ZgCW4u Join the Ultimate Human VIP community: https://bit.ly/4ai0Xwg Connect with Dr. Judith Joseph: Get Dr. Judith Joseph's book, “High Functioning“ here: https://bit.ly/4kn8Bct  Listen to "The Vault with Dr. Judith" on all your favorite platforms! YouTube: https://bit.ly/4lhTsd5  Spotify: https://bit.ly/4lqfURz  Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3ZFoUd6    Connect with Dr. Judith Joseph: Website: https://bit.ly/4kTr411  YouTube: https://bit.ly/4l5AC9e  Instagram: https://bit.ly/4kXdiux  TikTok: https://bit.ly/44tPvwg Facebook: ⁠https://bit.ly/3G8QDMC LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4egyTLH  Thank you to our partners: H2TABS - USE CODE “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4hMNdgg BODYHEALTH - USE CODE “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: http://bit.ly/4e5IjsV BAJA GOLD - USE CODE "ULTIMATE10" FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/3WSBqUa EIGHT SLEEP - SAVE $350 ON THE POD 4 ULTRA WITH CODE “GARY”: https://bit.ly/3WkLd6E COLD LIFE - THE ULTIMATE HUMAN PLUNGE: https://bit.ly/4eULUKp WHOOP - GET 1 FREE MONTH WHEN YOU JOIN!: https://bit.ly/3VQ0nzW MASA CHIPS - GET 20% OFF YOUR FIRST ORDER: https://bit.ly/40LVY4y VANDY - USE CODE “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: https://bit.ly/49Qr7WE AION - USE CODE “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4h6KHAD HAPBEE - FEEL BETTER & PERFORM AT YOUR BEST: https://bit.ly/4a6glfo CARAWAY - USE CODE “ULTIMATE” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/3Q1VmkC HEALF - GET 10% OFF YOUR ORDER: https://bit.ly/41HJg6S BIOPTIMIZERS - USE CODE “ULTIMATE” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4inFfd7 RHO NUTRITION - USE CODE “ULTIMATE15” FOR 15% OFF: https://bit.ly/44fFza0 GENETIC TEST: ⁠https://bit.ly/3Yg1Uk9 Watch  the “Ultimate Human Podcast” every Tuesday & Thursday at 9AM EST: YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RPQYX8 Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3RQftU0 Connect with Gary Brecka: Instagram: https://bit.ly/3RPpnFs TikTok: https://bit.ly/4coJ8fo X.com: https://bit.ly/3Opc8tf Facebook: https://bit.ly/464VA1H LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4hH7Ri2 Website: https://bit.ly/4eLDbdU Merch: https://bit.ly/4aBpOM1 Newsletter: https://bit.ly/47ejrws Ask Gary: https://bit.ly/3PEAJuG Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:20 Dr. Judith Joseph's Research on Anhedonia and Joy 08:21 Understanding the Science of Happiness 15:01 Testing for Mental Health 20:37 High-Functioning Depression Definition 22:54 Identifying and Processing Trauma 30:28 The Five V's 45:17 Creating Social Connections 58:57 Shifting the Mindset on Self-Care 1:02:00 Planning Joy 1:09:50 Impact of Physical Movement on Mental Health 1:13:46 Final Question: What does it mean to you to be an “Ultimate Human?” The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka Podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user's own risk. The Content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such conditions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we speak with Dr. Samantha Harte about her experience living as a high-functioning person with addiction and how perfection masks internal struggles. She shares her journey from overdosing on cocaine as she was accepted into her doctoral program to becoming an author and recovery coach helping others find authentic healing.• High-functioning addiction often hides behind external success and achievements• Control and perfectionism become secondary addictions that receive cultural reinforcement• Traditional recovery approaches can face resistance from high-achievers who struggle to admit powerlessness• Dr. Harte discusses writing her book "Breaking the Circuit" after losing her sister to overdose• Trauma-informed recovery approaches help address the underlying childhood experiences driving perfectionism• Self-compassion and making amends to yourself are crucial parts of healing for perfectionists• Both Dr. Harte and Dr. Grover share personal experiences of maintaining outward success while struggling internally• Physical healing and spiritual healing are interconnected in authentic recoveryIf something Dr. Harte shared resonates with you, please reach out. Dr. Samantha Harte, responds to her own DMs. Connect with her, book a free discovery call, and don't ignore the call if something pierces you – she's here to wake you up and light your soul on fire.To contact Dr. Grover: ammadeeasy@fastmail.com

The Author Events Series presents Dr. Judith Joseph | High Functioning  REGISTER In Conversation with Hannah Williams Emcee - Dr. Dalesa Rueda The first book to unmask the hidden face of depression. If you look fine on the outside but don't feel fine on the inside, learn five tools to break the cycle of High Functioning Depression and experience more joy in your life. In High Functioning, Dr. Judith Joseph reveals that what we're feeling is not simply ''negativity'' or stress. Drawing on original research, client cases, and her personal experience with HFD, Dr. Judith radically shifts the way those of us with HFD see ourselves, and empowers us with five simple tools to reclaim our lives from this widespread yet poorly understood condition.  By following her 5 V's - validation, venting, values, vision, and vitals - we can wake up happier, find more satisfaction in our relationships, and feel better in the present while also looking forward to the future. Hannah Williams is a social activist and former data analyst tackling a major issue: salary transparency. After finding out she was underpaid, Hannah created Salary Transparent Street, a viral series interviewing strangers about their pay to help workers learn and earn more. She's testified in support of pay transparency bills in Virginia, Maryland, and DC, and her work has been featured by major media organizations like The Washington Post, TIME and BBC News. In 2023, she was named a Money.com Changemaker, and in 2024, she made the Forbes 30 Under 30 list. Dr. Dalesa Rueda is a licensed marriage and family therapist and the founder of Inspired & Free, a multi-state virtual therapy practice rooted in culturally responsive care. With over 20 years of experience, she specializes in helping individuals and couples heal from anxiety, trauma, and relationship challenges. Known for her warm, relatable approach and deep community ties in Philadelphia, Dr. Dalesa is passionate about making emotional wellness accessible and empowering for all. The 2024/25 Author Events Series is presented by Comcast. Because you love Author Events, please make a donation when you register for this event to ensure that this series continues to inspire Philadelphians. All tickets are non-refundable. Books will be available for purchase at the library on event night! The views expressed by the authors and moderators are strictly their own and do not represent the opinions of the Free Library of Philadelphia or its employees. (recorded 5/8/2025)

Text Me!Episode 229: Perfectionism, People-Pleasing & Alcohol: Healing the High-Functioning Woman with Raechelle  Embrey In episode 229 of the Sober Vibes podcast, Courtney Andersen welcomes Raechelle Embrey to the show, and they chat about why so many women turn to alcohol and how energy work, inner child healing, and setting boundaries can break the cycle. Perfectionism, high achievement, and alcohol often go hand in hand, especially for high-functioning women who appear to have it all together on the outside but feel overwhelmed and disconnected on the inside. Raechelle shares her personal story of growing up with a mother who had borderline personality disorder and how that experience shaped her perfectionism, people-pleasing, and eventual reliance on alcohol as a way to soften the pressure. Raechelle Embry is a Business & Wealth Astrologer and Energetic Alchemist for audacious, highly sensitive high-achievers. She is a podcast host and energy coach.In this episode, we cover:Why perfectionists often use alcohol to “soften” and feel less rigidHow unhealed childhood trauma manifests as people-pleasing and self-abandonmentThe connection between borderline mothers and high-achieving daughtersWhat “energetic boundaries” are and why they're essential for recoveryInner child work as a tool for healing energy stored in the bodyHow astrology can help identify patterns of self-abandonmentWhy it's hard for high-achieving women to trust their own perceptionHow codependency and control can show up even after quitting alcoholIf you've been doing all the work but still feel like something's missing, this episode offers a new lens on emotional sobriety and healing at the energetic level.Thank you for listening!Resources Mentioned:Courtney's Website Connect with Raechelle:Website Podcast InstagramReady to thrive in your alcohol-free life? Sober Vibes: A Guide to Thriving in Your First Three Months Without Alcohol is your step-by-step guide to navigating early sobriety with confidence.Grab your copy today!Thank you for listening! Help the show by Rating, Reviewing, and/or Subscribing to the Sober Vibes Podcast. Connect w/ Courtney:InstagramJoin the Sobriety Circle Apply for 1:1 CoachingOrder the Sober Vibes Book

#295: The times we look like we have it all together can actually be the moments we're struggling the most. When we're busy creating our own luck, we can miss the signs that it's time to tend to our mental and emotional well-being.In today's episode I'm sitting down with Dr. Judith Joseph, MD, MBA. Dr. Judith is a board-certified psychiatrist, researcher and award-winning content creator who specializes in mental health and trauma.We discuss why the commonly understood signs of depression don't tell the whole story, the ins and outs of high-functioning depression, and how to overcome it and reclaim your joy.We Also Talk About…The hidden signs of high-functioning and hidden depression.Understanding anhedonia, or lack of joy, and how to work through it.Why high-achieving women are more susceptible to high-functioning depression.How to tend to your mental health when the state of the world feels hectic and overwhelming.Resources:Check out Dr. Judith's book High-Functioning: Overcome Your Hidden Depression and Reclaim Your JoyFollow Dr. Judith on Instagram @drjudithjosephFollow Dr. Judith on TikTok @drjudithjosephCheck out Dr. Judith's podcast, The VaultDownload my free Best Case Scenario Journal TemplateSponsors:Nutrafol: Get $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping by visiting nutrafol.com and using the promo code BALANCEDLES.Shopify: Sign up for your $1 per month trial at shopify.com/balancedblackgirl.Cotton: Cotton is the fabric of our lives. Learn more at thefabricofourlives.com.Medtronic: Medtronic is spreading awareness about the importance of talking about women's heart health. Visit alettertomymother.com to learn more.Ka'Chava: Go to kachava.com and use code BALANCEDLES for 15% off their subscription for a limited time.Dipsea: Dipsea is the female-founded app for spicy audiobooks and more. Go to dipseastories.com/balanced to start your 30-day free trial!Keep in touch:Follow on IG: @shessoluckypod @lesalfredFollow on TikTok @shessoluckypod @lesalfredVisit our website at balancedblackgirl.comPlease note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Does external success imply that we have it all together? Or that we never have bad days?   I'm here to tell you that we can run successful meetings, have lunch with friends, and manage our households, all while feeling the subtle symptoms of anxiety or depression.   We are all human, and therefore we all experience a range of feelings and emotions. I'm hoping to further change the stigma surrounding mental health struggles.   In this episode, I'm talking about developing a more honest and healthy mindset about mental health, and what you can do to better nurture your own needs and challenges.   Topics covered in this episode include: Why there's no such thing as a negative emotion Tools and coping strategies to manage mental health Learning to embrace all of your experiences as a human being   Show notes available at www.leadinglady-coaching.com/podcast   Resources Mentioned:  Contact me: https://leadinglady-coaching.com/contact/ Check out Maria Winters, Leading Lady Ambassador and mental health therapist: https://thecoachingtherapist.com/   Have you joined the Leading Ladies Facebook Group yet?! I would love to see you in there! Head to https://www.facebook.com/groups/LeadingLadiesAAL to join! Let's connect on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aalcoaching Let's connect on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leading.lady.coach/

If you're tired of picking apart your appearance, hiding your body, or never feeling good enough, this episode is for you. Today, you'll learn the 4 simple steps you can take to build lasting confidence and finally feel good in your body. This powerful episode was inspired by a raw and emotional conversation Mel had with viral comedian Jake Shane. When Jake admitted he hates how he looks and struggles with self-worth, it opened the door to a bigger truth: millions of people feel the exact same way—but don't know what to do about it. So, Mel called in the experts. In this episode, you'll hear from Mel and Jake and learn tools from two renowned psychiatrists: -Dr. Judith Joseph, MD, double board-certified psychiatrist, professor at Columbia and NYU Medical Schools, and author of the bestselling book High Functioning. -Dr. Ashwini Nadkarni, MD, Harvard Medical School professor and psychiatrist at Mass General Brigham who specializes in anxiety, OCD, PTSD, and depression. Together, they break down the surprising psychology behind body shame and give you a practical, proven roadmap to feeling better, starting now. You'll learn how to: Break free from body shame, obsession, and constant comparisonRewire your brain for confidence and lasting self-acceptanceUse 4 science-backed steps to heal how you see yourselfUnderstand the hidden psychology behind body image and self-talkUnpack the shocking research on how screens and modern life are distorting your self-image (and how to fix it)This isn't just a conversation. It's your roadmap to healing, backed by science.  After listening you will have the tools, the science, and the mindset shift you need to stop hiding—and start seeing yourself clearly. Because when you change how you see yourself, you change everything. For more resources, click here for the podcast episode page. If you liked this episode, you'll love listening to this one next: How to Build Real Confidence: 7 Truths to Unlock Your Authentic SelfConnect with Mel:  Get Mel's #1 bestselling book, The Let Them TheoryWatch the episodes on YouTubeFollow Mel on Instagram The Mel Robbins Podcast InstagramMel's TikTok Sign up for Mel's personal letter Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes ad-freeDisclaimer

Ever feel like you're holding everyone else’s life together, but losing your own in the process? Terri Cole, psychotherapist, relationship expert and bestselling author, joins Sarah Grynberg to unpack the hidden epidemic of high-functioning codependency: the people-pleasing, over-giving, and self-abandonment that silently erodes a persons confidence, clarity, and wellbeing. In this eye-opening conversation, they explore how to spot the subtle signs of toxic dynamics, why boundary-setting is the ultimate act of self-love, and how to reclaim your time, energy, and peace of mind. You’ll learn: *What high-functioning codependency is and why it’s so hard to spot. *How to break free from emotional exhaustion. *The surprising truth about narcissists. *Scripts for setting clear, kind boundaries (especially when it’s awkward). This episode is a must-listen for anyone ready to stop over-functioning for everyone else and start showing up fully for themselves. Too Much: A Guide to Breaking the Cycle of High-Functioning Codependency from Terri Cole is available in all good bookstores and online here. Purchase Sarah's book: Living A Life Of Greatness here. To purchase Living A Life of Greatness outside Australia here or here. Watch A Life of Greatness Episodes On Youtube here. Sign up for Sarah’s newsletter (Greatness Guide) here. Purchase Sarah's Meditations here. Instagram: @sarahgrynberg Website: https://sarahgrynberg.com/ Facebook: facebook.com/sarahgrynberg Twitter: twitter.com/sarahgrynbergSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

One of the most popular books of 2025 so far is Dr. Judith Joseph's High Functioning: Overcome Your Hidden Depression and Reclaim Your Joy, which introduces us to the concept of High Functioning Depression—where you may look fine on the outside but don't feel fine on the inside. When people think of depression, they most likely think of “can't get out of bed” depression—but what about the lesser-known side of depression, the one that mostly stays hidden? If you are going through a time in your life where everything feels off, if you're struggling to find joy in happy moments, if you're walking around feeling numb, if you feel restless when you aren't busy or empty when you're sitting still—this book and this conversation might be for you. Today, Dr. Joseph and I talk about anhedonia—a word I had never heard of before she introduced me to it—and her five Vs, which are the crux of the book: validation, venting, values, vitals, and vision. The five Vs are our way out of High Functioning Depression, which I call HFD throughout the episode. Dr. Joseph talks about how trauma plays into HFD and so much more—it's such a rich conversation. Dr. Joseph is a board-certified child, adolescent, and adult psychiatrist and researcher who specializes in mental health and trauma. She is the founder and chief investigator at Manhattan Behavioral Medicine, New York City's premier clinical research site, a clinical assistant professor in child and adolescent psychiatry at NYU's medical center, and chairwoman of the Women in Medicine Board at Columbia. She's extremely popular on social media and holds an undergraduate degree from Duke as well as a medical doctorate and a master's in business administration from Columbia. All of this, and the one and only Mel Robbins wrote the foreward for this book—further proof that it's such an important read. High Functioning: Overcome Your Hidden Depression and Reclaim Your Joy by Dr. Judith Joseph

Feeling like you're stuck in survival mode? Can't keep up with the laundry, your inbox, or... your life? You're not alone—and you're not broken. This episode is the loving wake-up call (and gentle nudge) you didn't know you needed.We're breaking down what it really means to be low-, mid-, and high-functioning with ADHD—and why wherever you are on that scale is totally OK. This is your roadmap to rise, slowly but surely.✨ What we cover:Low vs. mid vs. high-functioning ADHDWhy meds matter (but aren't magic)The basics: water, sleep, movement, hygieneExercise = brain boost (science says so!)Journaling to calm the chaos

Do you feel guilty taking a break—like rest has to be earned through overwork? What if the key to sustainable success isn't more hustle, but less Influencer self care and just smarter self-care? In this episode, our guest fro Be Well Sis, Dr. Cassandre Dunbar breaks down what high-functioning burnout really looks like and why traditional self-care advice often misses the mark for women who juggle careers, family, and ambition. If you're tired of glorified grind culture and want a new approach to wellness that actually fits your lifestyle, this conversation is a must-listen. Learn the surprising signs of burnout that high achievers often ignore Discover how to redefine self-care so it feels attainable and personal Understand how micro-habits and boundaries can restore your energy and mental clarity Press play now to hear Dr. Cassandre's empowering take on self-care, burnout, and what it means to truly be well—without compromising your ambition.

Do you ever wonder when it's appropriate to set a boundary? Or do you wish you knew what boundaries to set? Maybe unhealthy behavior was normalized in your family of origin, making it difficult to know when a request is “reasonable.” If so, this episode is for you. It's the second in a two-part series about boundaries and high-functioning codependency (HFC). In this one, we're covering the five types of boundaries, three boundary styles, and tips for when to set a boundary and how to do it. You can catch Part 1 here, where we covered boundary basics and talked about the unique challenges HFCs have in setting boundaries. Read the show notes for today's episode at terricole.com/718

It's been estimated that over 21 million adults in the United States have experienced depression. While the common symptoms of depression like sadness or lack of energy can be easy to spot, depression doesn't always present in one specific way. Today, you're going to learn about the hidden type of depression that is stopping many people from experiencing joy. On this episode of The Model Health Show, our guest is board certified psychiatrist and author, Dr. Judith Joseph. Her new book, High Functioning, takes a look at an important mental health condition that is often overlooked. In this interview, you're going to learn what high functioning depression is and why it often flies under the radar. You're also going to learn about simple strategies you can use to better understand your mental health and reclaim your joy. Dr. Judith Joseph is not only an expert in this subject matter, but she also draws on her personal experience to help you understand how high functioning depression presents and what you can do about it. Enjoy!  In this episode you'll discover:  What the leading cause of disability and absenteeism is. (00:14) How Dr. Joseph got interested in studying mental health. (12:20) What high functioning depression is and why it matters. (14:49) How our modern world damages our mental health. (19:48) The important role that joy plays in our longevity. (20:48) How our eating habits stop us from experiencing joy. (21:31) The multiple faces of depression. (23:10) What anhedonia is. (23:35) The symptoms of high functioning depression. (23:53) How high functioning depression differs from burnout. (24:44) Why our technology causes us to miss out on joy. (32:51) What scarcity trauma is. (41:52) The 5 Vs of healing. (44:37) How different generations view mental health. (46:03) What validation is. (48:58) How venting in psychology is like venting in physics. (57:53) The importance of identifying your values. (1:04:10) How your relationships impact your health. (1:12:11) What nutritional psychiatry is. (1:15:46) Why you need to prioritize joy for better mental health. (1:22:05)  Items mentioned in this episode include:  Peluva.com/model -- Get 15% off barefoot shoes with my code MODEL!  Organifi.com/Model  -- Use the coupon code MODEL for 20% off + free shipping! High Functioning by Dr. Judith Joseph -- Grab your copy of Dr. Joseph's book! Connect with Dr. Judith Joseph Website / Facebook / Instagram / TikTok  Be sure you are subscribed to this podcast to automatically receive your episodes:   Apple Podcasts Spotify Soundcloud Pandora YouTube   This episode of The Model Health Show is brought to you by Peluva and Organifi. Peluva's barefoot minimalist shoes support postural alignment, proprioception, and overall functionality. Get 15% off your order by using code MODEL at peluva.com/model. Organifi makes nutrition easy and delicious for everyone. Take 20% off your order with the code MODEL at organifi.com/model. 

High-functioning depression often goes unnoticed as people hide their struggles behind busy schedules and impressive achievements. But understanding and addressing these hidden challenges can help you find more joy and live a mentally stronger life. My guest is Dr. Judith Joseph, a Columbia-trained psychiatrist, clinical assistant professor, and leading voice on high-functioning depression. She is also the author of High Functioning. Some of the things we discuss are: The key warning signs of high-functioning depression How unresolved emotional trauma can lead to avoidance and overworking as coping mechanisms The differences between perfectionism as healthy striving versus harmful overachieving Simple, actionable strategies to create small moments of joy throughout the day and why they matter The importance of acknowledging your feelings and taking small steps to process and heal Strategies that can help you overcome high-functioning depression Want more tips for building mental strength? Subscribe to Mentally Stronger Premium and get weekly AMA episodes and monthly bonuses to help you grow mentally stronger! Links & Resources ⁠DrJudithJoseph.com High Functioning Connect with the Show Buy Amy's ⁠books on mental strength⁠ Connect with Amy on Instagram — ⁠@AmyMorinAuthor⁠ AmyMorinLCSW.com Sponsors OneSkin — Get 15% off OneSkin with the code STRONGER at ⁠⁠⁠https://www.oneskin.co/⁠⁠⁠ #oneskinpod Calm — Get 40% off a Calm Premium Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠calm.com/STRONGER⁠⁠⁠ AirDoctor — Head to ⁠⁠⁠AirDoctorPro.com⁠⁠⁠ and use promo code STRONGER to get UP TO $300 off today! Shopify — Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at ⁠⁠⁠Shopify.com/mentallystronger⁠⁠⁠ Mentally Strong — Sign up for your free 7-day trial at MentallyStrong.Downpait.Ai Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Do you struggle with setting boundaries because it feels selfish or wrong to put your preferences or needs first?  Do you inadvertently trample on other people's boundaries? (Hyper-helping, auto-advice giving, etc.) Or are you a newly identified high-functioning codependent (HFC) wondering why it's especially tough to set boundaries? Then you're in the right place. In this episode, I am breaking down why it's challenging to set, stick to, and respect other people's boundaries, particularly as HFCs. This is part one, and in part two (coming next week), we'll cover boundary scripts and the different types of boundaries you might want to consider setting. Read the show notes for today's episode at terricole.com/716

Dr. Judith Joseph is a Harvard-trained psychiatrist, clinical professor at NYU Medical School, and a renowned voice on high-functioning depression. In this conversation, we explore the paradox of achievement and anhedonia—the curious, often painful reality that success doesn't always equate to joy. Judith shares her clinical insights into why so many high performers feel emotionally flat, walking us through her integrative approach to mental health and her groundbreaking "5 V's" framework for reclaiming points of joy. This one hit close to home. I found myself confronting how we chase achievement while disconnecting from what truly matters in life. Judith is a rare voice—wise, warm, grounded in science, and even more so in compassion. This one will land where it's needed most. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today's Sponsors:  iFit: Use the code RICHROLL to get 10% off any purchase of $999+

In the latest episode of our podcast, we delve into a topic that resonates with many but is often overlooked: high functioning trauma and PTSD. Briannne Davis-Gantt, our host, opens up about the hidden struggles faced by individuals who appear to have it all together on the surface. They may be successful in their careers and maintain an active social life, but beneath that exterior lies a complex web of unresolved trauma that can lead to burnout and emotional distress.High functioning PTSD is characterized by individuals who have experienced significant trauma but choose to suppress it rather than confront it. This suppression can lead to a range of issues, including anxiety, depression, and difficulties in relationships. Brannne shares her personal experiences, revealing how childhood neglect has manifested in her adult life, and emphasizes that trauma doesn't just disappear; it remains trapped in our bodies, waiting to be addressed._____If you or anyone you know is struggling with addiction, depression, trauma, sexual abuse or feeling overwhelmed, we've compiled a list of resources at secretlifepodcast.com______To share your secret and be a guest on the show email secretlifepodcast@icloud.com_____SECRET LIFE'S TOPICS INCLUDE:addiction recovery, mental health, alcoholism, drug addiction, sex addiction, love addiction, OCD, ADHD, dyslexia, eating disorders, debt & money issues, anorexia, depression, shoplifting,  molestation, sexual assault, trauma, relationships, self-love, friendships, community, secrets, self-care, courage, freedom, and happiness._____Create and Host Your Podcast with the same host we use - RedCircle_____Get your copy of SECRET LIFE OF A HOLLYWOOD SEX & LOVE ADDICT -- Secret Life Novel or on Amazon______HOW CAN I SUPPORT THE SHOW?Tell Your Friends & Share Online!Follow, Rate & Review: Apple Podcasts | SpotifyFollow & Listen iHeart | Stitcher | Google Podcasts | Amazon | PandoraSpread the word via social mediaInstagramTwitterFacebook#SecretLifePodcastDonate - You can also support the show with a one-time or monthly donation via PayPal (make payment to secretlifepodcast@icloud.com) or at our WEBSITE.Connect with Brianne Davis-Gantt (@thebriannedavis)Official WebsiteBrianne's Coaching WebsiteInstagramFacebookTwitterConnect with Mark Gantt (@markgantt)Main WebsiteDirecting WebsiteMark Gantt Coaching WebsiteInstagramFacebookTwitterSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/secret-life/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

I never thought the girl I got in a drunken cake fight with would be the same one handing me a big book in AA, but here we are. Emily Blossom is an author, a badass real estate broker, and someone who's lived a thousand lives. We hadn't talked in years after that wild night, but then I walked into the rooms of Alcoholics Anonymous and there she was, holding up a mirror I wasn't ready for.We talk about being high-functioning alcoholics, the shame we carried, and what it was like to reconnect after everything. Emily shares raw stories from her book Mental Mayhem, including growing up in violence, marrying her abuser, and learning to break the cycle.This one's real, vulnerable, and one of my favorite conversations as it shares the highs and lows of going on a sobriety journey.Connect with Emily Blossom @soulblossomtribeStep into Your Sober Era! Are you ready to embrace a life of clarity and empowerment? Let's embark on this transformative journey together! [Subscribe Now ➔] Sam's Sober Stack | Samantha Parker | Substack Want to Work with The Samantha Parker for Content Management CLICK HERE Grab my Sober Travel Tips Guide HERE Check out My Sober Storefront HERE Follow me on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@samanthaparkershow YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@thesamanthaparker Instagram https://www.instagram.com/thesamanthaparker/ Grab $10 off Curious Elixirs https://oken.do/ho7cxduy Shop Ryze Coffee - Grab 15% Off HERE

Stress, anxiety, fatigue can keep us in a state of EXHAUSTION. Over time, this leads to what I call High-Functioning Fatigue. Oftentimes, women feeling this way will also feel like they are going through a form of spiritual warfare or attack. This is so common cuz Satan loves to keep God's daughter's sad, sick and stuck.   I will be sharing 2 very simple, doable and calming actions you can take today, to praise & pray your way through High-Functioning Fatigue and any type of spiritual warfare you may be going through.  If you're thinking, ok but what IS High-Functioning Fatigue, Go to ep. 277 where I talk about HFF and your adrenal risk. Women in this midlife season who are notorious for putting their own health and wellness on the back burner for years, are really struggling with exhaustion, brain fog and that overwhelmingness of not feeling like themselves… and they explain it away with comments like: it's menopause or it's my job or it's my age or….I just need a vacation or.. (Fill in the blank…) You are pushing through your tiredness, pushing through and getting things done, and continue to say to yourself: “I'll focus on my health when xyz gets done.” I consider HHF that underlying tiredness you can't shake, no matter how much you rest, coupled with a mental fog that makes even simple decisions feel overwhelming. You might look put-together on the outside, but on the inside, you're struggling to keep up, feeling like you're barely holding it together while wondering why you're so exhausted all the time. Sound like you?  In this episode, I share 2 ways you can fight back through whatever spiritual attack or warfare you are going through right now… and always... and help you get starting to heal and recover God's way from High-Functioning Fatigue. These 2 ways should always be our GO-TO. NO hesitation.  I pray this blesses you and moves you to action today! XO, Michelle Book your  Fatigue Freedom Call today, where together we will uncover what's really keeping you exhausted AND show you how you can start feeling BETTER in your whole health, within DAYS.   ***Join our community, Fight FATIGUE over 40 with FAITH & Holistic Health, to be supported, encouraged and educated as you take back your health WITH God at the center. **Catch the Treasured Wellness Podcast on https://christianmix106.com/   AND YouTube   ***DISCLAIMER: By listening to this podcast, you agree not to use this podcast as medical advice to treat any medical condition in either yourself or others. Contact your own physician for any medical concerns you have. This entire disclaimer also applies to any guests or contributors to the podcast. Under no circumstances shall Treasured Wellness, LLC, guests or contributors be responsible for damages arising from the use of this podcast.

We often associate depression with withdrawal and low energy - but what if it hides behind a packed schedule and staying busy? Board-certified psychiatrist Dr. Judith Joseph joins Professor Sarah Berry to explore high-functioning depression. Dr. Joseph explains how depression gets missed by medical professionals, explaining what's really happening in the brain. She shares how traditional definitions of depression often overlook people who appear to be coping, leading many to go undiagnosed and unsupported. We discuss how a busy, high-achieving lifestyle can actually mask the symptoms of depression - and even perpetuate it. Dr. Joseph, the first psychiatrist to run a lab focused on high-functioning depression, shares her latest findings on its causes, signs, and long-term impact. ZOE's Chief Scientist Prof. Sarah Berry explains how food and the gut microbiome may hold the key to reducing these symptoms. If this sounds familiar, Dr. Joseph introduces a quick self-test to help identify high-functioning depression - and outlines five practical strategies to begin healing, and Sarah gives you the foods that could help.

Have you been running on empty — but somehow still getting everything done and wondering what's wrong with your body?You're not alone. In this powerful episode, I sit down with holistic health coach Michelle McCoy to dive into the hidden epidemic of high-functioning fatigue — especially among women approaching midlife.We unpack why conventional medicine often misses the root issues and how holistic health, nutrition, and even your spiritual well-being play a massive role in your energy (or lack of it). Michelle also shares her personal health journey and how small, strategic changes can lead to big breakthroughs.If you're feeling worn out, constantly stressed, or concerned about your children's health too — this episode will leave you feeling hopeful and equipped with practical tips to start healing naturally.✅ You'll Learn:5 warning signs you're dealing with high-functioning fatigueWhy your mineral balance matters more than you thinkHow spiritual health impacts physical healthSimple diet tweaks that can drastically improve your energyHow to advocate for yourself (and your family) in today's health system

In this powerful and deeply personal episode of You're Not Broken, Dr. Kelly Casperson is joined by psychiatrist Dr. Judith Joseph to unpack the complex relationship between trauma, high-functioning depression, and the systemic challenges facing both patients and providers in healthcare. Dr. Joseph shares her unique career journey from anesthesiology to psychiatry—a shift fueled by the pursuit of deeper fulfillment and connection. Drawing from her new book High Functioning, she explores how trauma can show up in unexpected ways: perfectionism, strained relationships, and even the culture of medicine itself. Together, Dr. Joseph and Dr. Casperson dive into the mental health crisis within the medical profession, the difference between complex PTSD and traditional PTSD, and why trauma-informed care must become the standard in healthcare. They highlight the need for preventative mental health care and why joy—not just happiness—is vital to healing. Key Takeaways: Dr. Judith Joseph's new book High Functioning explores hidden depression and the masks people wear. A desire for deeper meaning and purpose sparked her transition from anesthesiology to psychiatry. Trauma can subtly impact daily life, relationships, and career satisfaction. Complex PTSD differs from traditional PTSD and requires a nuanced approach. Perfectionism may be a trauma response rooted in avoidance and fear. Many healthcare professionals operate with unresolved trauma, often unacknowledged and invalidated. The medical system itself can contribute to both patient and provider trauma. High-functioning depression is widespread but often misunderstood or overlooked. Preventative mental health care is crucial—waiting for a crisis is not sustainable. Joy is a core component of mental health, not a luxury or afterthought. Understanding one's own trauma can make you a more effective and empathetic clinician. Identifying and naming emotions can be profoundly therapeutic. Self-care and setting boundaries are necessary acts of preservation, not selfishness. https://www.instagram.com/drjudithjoseph/ High Functioning Book by Dr. Joseph https://drjudithjoseph.com/ Sedona in October - only five slots left: https://www.ascendretreats.com/menopause-and-sexual-health-2025 Order my book "You Are Not Broken: Stop "Should-ing" All Over You Sex Life" Listen to my Tedx Talk: Why we need adult sex ed Take my Adult Sex Ed Master Class: My Website Interested in my sexual health and hormone clinic? Waitlist is open To learn more about Via vaginal moisturizer from Solv Wellness, visit via4her.com for 20% off your first order. For an additional $5 off Via, use coupon code DRKELLY5. Thanks to our sponsor Midi Women's Health. Designed by midlife experts, delivered by experienced clinicians, covered by insurance. Midi is the first virtual care clinic made exclusively for women 40+. Evidence-based treatments. Personalized midlife care. https://www.joinmidi.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#194. Have you heard of high-functioning depression? Because I hadn't, until I read Dr. Judith Joseph's book, High-Functioning. In today's episode, Dr. Judith is on NTS to break down the signs of high-functioning depression, how to notice it in yourself, and what to do about it. FOLLOW PAYTON:https://instagram.com/paytonsartain https://www.tiktok.com/@paytonsartain https://youtube.com/c/paytonsartainhhhttps://amazon.com/shop/paytonsartain https://pinterest.com/paytonsartain SUBMIT TO NOTE TO SELF:→ Ask P: Advice Column: https://forms.gle/avvSu4ibYygZP5rq8 → Simple Pleasures: https://forms.gle/PFmEU9BFRtyE7Dt57 → Your ICKS: https://forms.gle/pgcr9LhmyyvyAyVk7→ Most Embarrassing Stories: https://forms.gle/qpZBp9bxdcH77Utf8→ Little Acts of Love: https://forms.gle/ReEoo6HBoC4QspQs9→ Juicy Confessions: https://forms.gle/Uuz5KdUkC4c3NnFw5Episode Sponsors:Find Simply Pop and any of its five juicy flavors by visiting us online at cokeurl.com/simplyPOP. Join the thousands who have already turned to Rula for support on their journey to better mental health and well-being. Getting started is easy—just visit Rula.com/notetoself today. When you sign up, they'll ask how you heard about them—please support our show by letting them know we sent you! It's a simple way to help us while you take the first step toward the care you deserve. Your mental health matters!For your next trip, treat yourself to the luxe upgrades you deserve from Quince. Go to Quince.com/payton for 365-day returns, plus free shipping on your orderSign up now and join the over 14 million all-time customers who have already saved and invested over $25 billion dollars with Acorns. Head to acorns.com/notetoself or download the Acorns app to get started.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Are You Joyful… or Just Functioning? Most people don't realize it—but there's a silent struggle happening behind the smiles and the schedules. Today, I sit down with Dr. Judith Joseph, a Columbia-trained psychiatrist and author of High Functioning: Overcome Your Hidden Depression and Reclaim Your Joy. We tackle something that I think is affecting more people than anyone talks about… high functioning depression. It's not in the "DSM"—but it's very real. And if you've ever felt like you're doing everything “right” but still feel empty inside, you need to hear this. We talked about a condition called anhedonia—this sneaky, silent twin of depression that robs you of joy without making you collapse. It's the part of depression that doesn't get seen or treated because you're still performing, still producing, still achieving. Dr. Judith broke down how traumas, even the little ones, can rewire the way we experience joy. And more importantly, she gave a way out. You don't have to crash to get help. You don't have to be broken to deserve healing. This episode isn't just about naming the problem. It's about owning your emotional truth, slowing down, and reclaiming the simple human experiences that actually fill you. Whether you're a high achiever constantly “doing” or someone who feels like joy is always out of reach, this one's for you. Judith's “5 V's” framework gives you real tools you can use every day—like planning your joy, validating your feelings, and choosing presence over performance. And let me tell you what stood out most. Joy is contagious! It spreads. To your kids, your spouse, your team. The more we access joy, the more we model it for those around us. This conversation hit home for me—and I think it will for you too. Key Takeaways: Why anhedonia is the overlooked symptom stealing your joy. The difference between happiness (an idea) and joy (an experience). The “5 V's” system to help reclaim joy: Validation, Venting, Values, Vitals, Vision. How trauma—big or small—can lead to high functioning depression. Tools to help yourself or someone you love who's silently struggling. The impact of hormonal changes on mental health, especially for women. A method to ground yourself daily and reduce anxiety: the 5-4-3-2-1 technique. Let's not wait for the crash to start healing. You deserve joy. You just forgot how to feel it. Max out.

Send us a textDr. David Adams is one of the most respected voices in domestic violence prevention and abuser intervention. In this episode of The Modern Arizona Podcast, Dr. Adams shares insights from his 45 years of experience working with abusers, victims, courts, and professionals across the U.S. and beyond.We dive into what really works when it comes to changing abusive behavior, why coercive control often gets missed in court, and how to accurately assess risk during divorce and custody disputes. Dr. Adams also shares what makes expert witness testimony so crucial in cases where abuse may not be “visible” but still deeply impacts families.Key Topics Covered:1. Why many abusers appear high-functioning at work but abusive at home2. The psychology behind abuse and how it can be unlearned3. The truth about parental alienation and coercive control4. What courts and evaluators often miss in family law cases5. How to assess risk before a high-conflict divorce or custody battle3. Parenting programs that work, beyond couples therapyThis episode is a must-listen for attorneys, judges, counselors, and parents navigating high-conflict relationships. Whether you're working within the legal system or supporting someone who is, this conversation gives you tools to recognize patterns, avoid costly mistakes, and ultimately protect families better.Where to Find Dr. David AdamsLinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-adams-0488949/#ModernArizonaPodcast #DrDavidAdams #DomesticViolenceAwareness #FamilyLaw #CustodyBattles #HighConflictDivorce #CoerciveControl #ParentingPrograms #ExpertWitness #DVPrevention

If you've ever felt like you're doing all the “right” things—showing up for work, taking care of everyone, checking all the boxes—but inside, you feel numb, disconnected, or just... not okay, this episode is for you.This week on Be Well, Sis, I'm joined by the brilliant Dr. Judith Joseph, a board-certified psychiatrist and researcher, to talk about something that doesn't get nearly enough attention: high functioning depression.We often associate depression with what we see—sadness, withdrawal, tears. But what happens when it looks more like achievement, perfectionism, and over-functioning? When the pain hides behind productivity? That's where this conversation begins.Dr. Judith breaks down what high functioning depression actually is, why it's often missed in clinical settings, and how trauma, societal pressure, and internalized expectations can all contribute to emotional burnout, anhedonia (the loss of joy), and disconnection.She also introduces her powerful framework, the Five V's to Thriving—a model that prioritizes validation, venting, values, vitals, and vision to support true emotional well-being.In this episode, we explore:What high functioning depression really looks and feels likeThe link between trauma, anhedonia, and collective numbnessHow societal expectations can mask mental health struggles in high-achieving womenWhy validation and venting are essential for healingThe Five V's to Thriving and how to use them as tools for personal growthWhy joy is an experience, not an achievementHow to stop chasing external validation and start doing the inner work of self-careDr. Judith also speaks candidly about how mental wellness is deeply connected to relationships, rest, and reimagining what success and happiness truly mean—especially for Black women and women of color who are often taught to suppress their feelings to survive.This episode is for you if:You feel emotionally drained, even when everything looks “fine” on the outsideYou've normalized burnout and high stress as your baselineYou're curious about new ways to think about healing and emotional regulationYou're doing the work, but still feel like joy is just out of reachYou want to understand your mental health through both a clinical and compassionate lensAbout Dr. Judith Joseph: Dr. Judith Joseph is a board-certified psychiatrist, media expert, and mental health advocate whose work bridges the gap between clinical research and culturally competent care. Her mission is to empower people—especially those in marginalized communities—to prioritize their mental wellness with evidence-based, heart-centered tools.

402. Are You A High Functioning Codependent? Find Out with Terri Cole. Amanda, Glennon, and Abby are joined by licensed psychotherapist and relationship expert, Terri Cole, to talk about high-functioning codependency—a term Terri coined to describe those who appear highly capable but feel deeply exhausted, resentful, and overwhelmed in relationships. In this episode, we'll explore how being overly invested in others' outcomes can take a toll on your peace and relationships, and how to begin your healing journey. Be sure to tune in next episode for a deep dive into codependent recovery and how to navigate the process. -Why the more capable you are, the less codependency looks like codependency -Terri's personal story about how she finally got into recovery for codependency -The two questions you should ask yourself as a codependent before you say yes to anything -The three quick practices you must do to protect your energy On Terri: Terri Cole is a licensed psychotherapist and global relationship and empowerment expert and the author of Boundary Boss and Too Much! She has a gift for making complex psychological concepts accessible and actionable so that clients –including parents, celebrities and Fortune 500 CEOs – achieve sustainable change.  You can find her through her blog, courses, her podcast, The Terri Cole Show, and at terricole.com. Check out www.terricole.com/hfc for a special offering from Terri just for the podsquad! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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“Let's not wait for people to break down. Let's give them the tools to prevent a breakdown,” explains Judith Joseph, M.D., M.B.A. Joseph, board-certified psychiatrist, researcher, and author, joins us today to discuss the subtle signs of high-functioning depression, the 5 tools to truly thrive, plus so much more:  - What is high-functioning depression (~1:55)  - The subtle signs of depression (~5:25) - The hedonic treadmill (~7:15) - Unprocessed trauma (~12:30) - People pleasing & pathological productiveness (~15:00) - Price tags vs priceless (~19:10)  - Joseph's personal story (~21:30) - How to reset (~23:45) - Joy & childhood (~27:35) - The 5 V's to thriving (~29:30) Referenced in the episode:  - Follow Joseph on Instagram (@drjudithjoseph) - Learn more about her (https://drjudithjoseph.com/)  - Pick up her book High Functioning  We hope you enjoy this episode, and feel free to watch the full video on YouTube! Whether it's an article or podcast, we want to know what we can do to help here at mindbodygreen. Let us know at: podcast@mindbodygreen.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Succeeding on the outside but struggling on the inside? In this eye-opening episode, Dr. Judith Joseph helps you recognize the hidden signs of high functioning depression that often hide behind your achievements and busy schedule. Drawing from her powerful new book "High Functioning: Overcome Your Hidden Depression and Reclaim Your Joy," Dr. Joseph shares her proven 5-step framework for breaking free from this silent struggle. You'll discover practical ways to identify warning signals in your daily life, learn science-backed techniques to manage stress and overwhelm, and gain effective strategies for healing from past traumas—both big and small. This conversation equips you with actionable self-care tools that help you balance success with genuine mental wellbeing. You deserve to feel as good on the inside as your life looks on the outside—this episode shows you how! SHOW NOTES + TRANSCRIPT acertainagepod.com FOLLOW A CERTAIN AGE: Instagram Facebook LinkedIn GET INBOX INSPO: Sign up for our newsletter AGE BOLDLY We share new episodes, giveaways, links we love, and midlife resources Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Psychiatrist and author Dr. Judith Joseph joins Lesley to unpack "high-functioning depression," a hidden struggle affecting many high achievers who seem successful externally yet feel emotionally exhausted inside. Discover why driven individuals often overlook signs of burnout, the surprising prevalence of anhedonia (lack of joy), and Dr. Joseph's practical framework—the Five Vs—for understanding and enhancing your personal happiness. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How to spot signs of high-functioning depression and overcome anhedonia.Why your emotions, including joy and anhedonia, directly influence those around you.The role of trauma, people-pleasing, and over-functioning in our mental health.Dr. Judith's biopsychosocial model for understanding your own unique path to happiness.Easy ways to reduce burnout by shifting from constant "doing" to mindful "being."Episode References/Links:Dr. Judith Joseph Website - https://drjudithjoseph.comDr. Judith Joseph Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/drjudithjosephHigh Functioning Book by Dr. Judith Joseph - https://a.co/d/9sFHkQWAnhedonia Assessment Quiz - https://drjudithjoseph.com/anhedoniaquizGuided Meditation by Deepak Chopra - https://beitpod.com/deepakchopraGuest Bio:Judith Joseph MD, MBA, is a board-certified psychiatrist, researcher, and award winning content creator who specializes in mental health and trauma. She is chair of the women in medicine initiative at Columbia University Vagelos College of Physicians and Surgeons, clinical assistant professor in child and adolescent psychiatry at NYU Grossman School of Medicine and Chief Investigator at Manhattan Behavioral Medicine, New York City's Premier Clinical Research Site. Dr. Judith was awarded by the US House of Representatives with a 2023 Congress Proclamation Award for her social media advocacy and mental health research. In 2024 she was named a top 6 NAACP Mental Health Champion and a VeryWell Mind top 25 Thought leader. In 2024 She taught a Workplace Mental Health Course to The Executive Office Of The President of The United States of America. In addition to being a notable public speaker at prestigious institutions, Dr. Judith is a sought after on-air expert who has been featured on Oprah Daily's The Life You Want Series, Good Morning America, The Wendy Williams Show, Tamron Hall, Today Show, CNN News With Anderson Cooper, The Mel Robbins Podcast, and more. She recently received a 2020 and 2023 Share Care Award for her MedCircle series on PTSD and a Good Morning America investigative special on ADHD. Social media's favorite psychiatrist, Dr. Judith boasts more than 880,000 followers across platforms, a 30% increase in less than a year. Her Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and YouTube videos receive more than 15 million views per month. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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I always say Anhedonia is contagious, but joy is contagious too.Lesley Logan 0:13  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:55  Ladies, and the few good men who listen, hi. This is amazing. This is exactly an episode I wanted to have since last fall. We had a whole topic on Anhedonia, and I got so many of you reaching , going oh my God, tell me more. So, I found an expert. Get your notebooks out. If you're driving, you'll hit, you'll, just listen, because you want to listen again, you're going to take some notes, and also you're going to want to get this book. So Dr Joseph's book is going to be out April 8th, and so you, normally, I don't preview that. I let you fall in love with her and then tell you, but I'm already in love. I'm going to make sure I get my hands on a copy of this book. So definitely check it out, but here, for you to get the help that you deserve and some amazing validation of who you are and what you're going through, here is Dr. Judith Joseph. Lesley Logan 1:40  All right, Be It babe. I am honored, truly. I heard about our guest today through one of my favorite people in this world, Amy Lavell, and so Dr. Judith Joseph is our guest today. She has a story to tell us, and also has done so much research, and I wanted her on the show because my high-functioning peeps, I see you, we keep talking about not being a perfectionist, not over committing, not do all this stuff, but I thought we'd have an expert come in and talk about the journey of what that does to us and how we can get out of it. So Dr. Judith Joseph, thanks for being here. Can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at? Dr. Judith Joseph 2:12  Thank you so much, Lesley. I'm a board certified psychiatrist. I am based in New York City, and I am high-functioning. AF. All of my followers know it. I do a gazillion things on top of being a single mom. I run a lab, content creation, podcaster, author of my book High-Functioning, conducting the first ever study in the world on high-functioning depression, which is something that you know is not really recognized at all in medical literature. But I don't think the depression of our days is our grandma's depression. I think there's a whole new beast out there, and many of us don't even know that we're walking around with it. So I'm trying to demystify that and to bring useful tools to heal.Lesley Logan 2:56  Yeah, that's why I was so intrigued by you. Because what I hear all the time is like, well, I'm not depressed because I get up every day. I do 17 other things, but there's no joy in it. And so can we maybe, maybe take a step back and figure out, like, what is high-functioning depression, and what are the maybe some of the signs that we might be having it?Dr. Judith Joseph 3:15  Well, you said two really great things. You said, listen, we're still getting up. We're doing our stuff. It doesn't look like anything's wrong. And you also said something that's really key, that there's just no joy in it. And actually, the two are connected. So when you go to a doctor or therapist, they're going to pull out this bible of psychiatry called the DSM, and they're going to go through checklists. And according to the DSM, the bible of psychiatry, Diagnostic Statistical Manual, if you don't meet criteria for a lack of functioning or significant distress, but you have all these symptoms of depression, like sometimes you have poor concentration, poor sleep, feeling on edge. That's what we call psychomotor agitation or restlessness, low mood, anhedonia, which is a lack of joy and interest and pleasure in things that once used to light us up, but you don't meet that box of lack of functioning or significant distress. They're going to be like, well, you know, come back and see me when things are really falling apart. The problem with that is that there are tons of people out there who have these symptoms of depression but are still functioning and over functioning because they're the rock, right? They're the mom, they're the boss, they're the teacher, you know, they're the doctor, the nurse, that people depend on, so you can't fall apart. So how do they cope? They busy themselves. They people-please and, eventually, something's going to give either they physically burn out, they mentally burn out, they have a major depressive disorder where they actually do stop functioning. They medicate with substances or with alcohol or self-soothe by shopping too much and going broke, right? Something's gonna give. So why are we waiting for people to lose functioning to do something about this? Why aren't we preventing it? And that's where the research comes in.Lesley Logan 4:56  Oh my gosh. I think first of all, a bunch of people just were like, uh, I have all these things. That's me. I meet a lot of women who are doing all these things, and yet they don't have that joy, that anhedonia that you mentioned, and they try to get help, and the help is either medications that they don't need right now because they're not fully depressed, or they're being told to come back later, and that's so frustrating to not feel heard, and then you just keep doing because you're like, okay, well, maybe I need to do this other seven things. Maybe these things will be the thing that makes me feel better. So I know that people feel so seen, and also I really hope that this becomes the thing people can get diagnosed with, because in that bible, because it does feel like, as you said, this the depression we're having now is not from grandma, because it's true, I don't have children, but if I just were to take off for a week, my team could do a lot, but at some point I need to, like, show up, like the wheels don't spin without, you know, so , it does, it can feel like there's extra pressure on the women who are going through this. How did you get involved in this topic? Were you just seeing it as a bunch of people coming through, or is it something that you went through? Like, can you tell us a little about how you got intrigued by this? Dr. Judith Joseph 6:06  Yeah, actually, it was during 2020, I was given this talk from the same desk that I'm talking from right now, and it was a large hospital system, and it was April, and people didn't know what the pandemic was going to do. They, I mean, we didn't know anything then, and I was called in to really give people the tools to get through a tough time. And halfway through the talk, I realized, I think I'm depressed, but here I am at my desk with my gazillion degrees behind me, instructing doctors and nurses and healthcare professionals on how to heal. And I didn't even realize that I was depressed because I was a doer, you know, and I had this saying, are you a human doing, or are you a human being, right? And I think a lot of us, that's our coping mechanism, at least for me. I'm an immigrant. I come from scarcity. It was never an option of giving up. You had to, you know, if times are tough, you work harder. If you go through something like a breakup, then you just got to take on more tasks at work, you know. And a lot of us cope with our pain by busying ourselves by doing versus just being and feeling and over time that wears on you. And I found myself at that moment in time during this Zoom talk, having that epiphany, and then led me to wonder, how many people on the other side of the Zoom feel like me, because there are a lot of nurses, a lot of doctors in healthcare. Then I started looking into, you know, some I'm in Manhattan, so a lot of my clients are performers, and they went through a really hard time during the pandemic, being out of work, and then the strikes and all that. And many of them, even though they were feeling depressed, they couldn't show it. They had to mask it, because they have to perform. They have to light up a room. So I just started looking at all these different industries, moms, you know, who have to do so many things. They have to go to work, they have to take care of their jobs. They have to take care of their kids. All these people masking these symptoms and just not slowing down and doing instead of feeling and healing. And I just thought, I'm onto something. So I created a reel on socials in 2022 and it went viral. It's been seen over 10 million times around the world. And I had people reaching out to me from different countries saying, I have that. I have anhedonia. This is me. How did you know? Like people were joking, do you have a camera in my home? That's me. Lesley Logan 8:23  Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, I like, as we're sitting here talking, we're two weeks into the new year, so the before, you're, you know, we're taking a few months before everyone's hearing this. And I have friends who are in LA. I lived in LA for 14 years, and, you know, I checked on my friends where I live, where I lived, is still there, because it's kind of in the total middle. And so they're still going to work. Their jobs still expect them to do the thing that they're supposed to do. So they're showing up and doing all the things, and I'm showing up doing all the things, and I'm kind of like, so do we, this is how we just, like handle everything now. We just like keep doing and I think part of it is like it feels normal. And a lot of times we, when there's tough times, we want to do the thing that feels normal, because we we don't want to experience the other thing. But I also think not a lot of us have the privilege in life to not keep doing when stuff is going on, so then you're kind of stuck. You have to keep going, because the world like you are, that's how you get paid, that's how you make a living, that's how all these, that's what people expect of you. And also, you know, there's this underlying currently you can't really deal with so it feels like what you're onto is something that will continue to be happening, but we need to be able to recognize it, so we can label it, so that we can actually go and address it, right? Because we can't just keep living like high functioning, you know, we can't just keep doing that depression. Dr. Judith Joseph 9:42  Yeah, you're absolutely right. I saw this meme, hilarious meme, where it was like, I told my mom I was depressed, and she said, boy, we broke. We don't got time for that, you know. And I thought it was so funny, because you're right when you go through hard times and you don't have the privilege to slow down or others depend on you even if you are economically sound, but others depend on you. You just don't feel like you have that privilege to slow down. You feel like, well, let me just do because that's what I've always done, but you're absolutely spot on, something's gonna give either your body breaks down. And I think that's why a lot of women have these autoimmune conditions, because women, particularly are like they just have so much on their plate. There's so much expected of them. They're not allowed to seem deflated because someone else is going to take your position. Someone's going to say you're on your period, or you're going through menopause. You know, there's just so much on our plates that we don't feel like we can slow down and certain under represented groups, same way, they're just happy to be in the room. Certain industries, doctors, like, if a doctor says that they are experiencing depression in certain hospital systems, they have to report it to the state. I mean, like, there are certain industries that you just can't even say that you're struggling. So I think that if we allow ourselves to process pain, it's not saying that we have to stop everything, because that's like the worst nightmare for someone who's had function AF. It's about teaching them how to get back into their body, how to process their trauma, so that once you start to feel the pain, then you can also feel the joy. But if you continue to numb and you keep on doing you're not going to be able to feel the pain, but you're also not gonna be able to feel the joys in life that we are all, you know, built to enjoy.Lesley Logan 11:28  That's so, thank you for sharing that. I think , like it's, to feel, I have a yoga teacher who is like, you cannot have one thing without the other. Like in the world, we want balance, you cannot have love in this world and not have hate. If you get rid of the hate, you get rid of the love. If you want to only have peace, there is war. Otherwise, you wouldn't know what you're in. And so if you want to have joy in your life, you do have to also feel your pain. And I think also not many of us were really raised on how to feel our pain. If I cried in public, it's like, hey, don't do that like you learn to mask it or bury it. And you brought up women with autoimmune issues. It is insane. How many women I know with multiple autoimmune issues, and you start to go, okay, what is going on here is either that we actually are testing for it, or the life that we're living now is causing us to harm our bodies in ways that are not visible, and not even things we would choose to do, but because we just keep shoving and not getting the help we need, or even if you're trying to get help, not being heard to get help. It's causing a lot of issues I feel like cannot be reversed, and we're missing out on a lot of life, you know. And you mentioned something about getting into your body that I love, because I'm a Pilates instructor, and I believe if you get into your body, you know so much about yourself. For the people listening, what are ways that you help people get in their body? What are the ways, the tools that you've used? Dr. Judith Joseph 12:49  Well, I love this Venn diagram called the biopsychosocial model, and I teach my patients. I teach my clients. It's three bubbles, if you can imagine them overlapping, but those three bubbles are a nice representation of each of us, and I always say your happiness is not the same as my happiness. Know the science of your happiness because a lot of people out there, they're trying all these different things, and it doesn't work for them, but that's because they're basing it off of the science of someone else's happiness. But there is only ever going to be one you. There's only ever going to be one Lesley, ever. I mean, when I think about that, I get chills, because it's like you're so unique. So understand what your makeup is. Understand your bio, which is basically your past history, in terms of your family history, your current medical conditions, what are the medicines you take? What are the supplements you take? You know? You have a very unique biology. Understand your psychology. That's the psycho part of the biopsychosocial you have traumas that are different than my traumas, right? You have resilience factors that are different than my resilience factors. You have a different attachment style, possibly to mine, right? Or different strengths or weaknesses psychologically. And then, the social aspect, we're just saying, I live in New York, you live in Vegas, there are different environmental factors there, right? You probably eat different foods than me, or we have different movement routines. You may have a different work environment than me, right? Understand your relationships. Those are all the social things. So we all have unique factors. And if we were taught to understand these overlapping diagrams, we would understand the science of our own happiness, and we wouldn't be chasing after someone else's happiness. That's number one. And knowing about the uniqueness of your happiness, if you're someone who tends to have a lot of pent up trauma in your body, then I could tell you to eat as much kale as possible, but that's not going to treat your trauma, right? So in that case, I'm going to focus on the psychology bubble of that Venn diagram, and I'm going to say, let's try and process that trauma. We may have to do some 5-4-3-2-1, exercises with you, or some more trauma-focused work, like EMDR work or trauma-focused therapy, making you feel safe again, because that's something that trauma survivors, you know, really grapple with that sense of safety and psychological safety, right? But if you're someone who, on the biological end of things, has an autoimmune condition, has headaches and really intolerable physiological symptoms, I'm not going to be like, well, let's put you in a trauma workshop, right? I'm going to say, let's work with your nutritionist, let's work with your movement specialist, let's work with your autoimmune doctor, and let's see if we can bring down the levels of inflammation, right? If the social issue is the problem, let's say you're in a toxic work environment, where every time you walk into work, you're triggered. Your heart is racing. You have broken self-esteem because people are like, not kind to you, and this is your job that you depend on for your livelihood. I'm not going to say, well, you know, let's have you go see your cardiologist. I'm going, to fix that fight or flight sensation in your chest, I'm going to say, it's your work environment. Let's see if we get you more support at work or get you out of that environment. So everyone has different factors going on, and I think that makes us really unique and special, but it also complicates things a bit further. So I wanted to democratize this tool that is taught in all of medicine and let everyone have access to it so they can understand their unique workup and areas that they should really focus on first and their step to understanding the science of their own happiness. Lesley Logan 16:24  I love that and I do see that there's a challenge there, because we are kind of trained that if you ask the question, you should get an answer, and that answer should help you. But it is true. You know, we all have different needs, especially, and at different times. And I love the idea of the three bubbles, because you can evaluate for yourself, oh, it is more of the psychos. That's where I need to go get help. It is more of this. But I do love like defining our own happiness, which is not easy if you never explored that, if that wasn't something that we were invited to do or even feel. And so I think that where I feel my listeners struggle, where I get a lot of questions, is almost like, how do they know if they're happy? How do they know? Because they're so busy doing and they might even feel like the pain of stuff that's going on, but they're having a really hard time feeling what's happy also, because I think as women, specifically, we sometimes feel bad if I'm happy and they're going through something, I should put things around so people can't see that I'm happy. I should bring my happiness. I should come down. So, I mean, is there tips on how to know what makes you happy? Dr. Judith Joseph 17:30  Yes, and that is why I have a happiness lab in New York City. And a lot of people don't know this, but happiness researchers, we very rarely use that word happy. People are like mind-boggled when they hear that, because a patientwho will come in to see me for private practice will say, all I want to do is be happy. And so I wear two hats. I wear the research hat and then the private practice hat, where I do traditional therapy and medication, but the research hat is really trying to understand whether or not this person's getting happy or worse, and we use points in research. And so I developed this scale, the Anhedonia Rating Scale. Anhedonia means a lack of joy and pleasure. So basically, you want to know how many points you're getting in these basic pleasures in life. If you have like, high anhedonia and you're not enjoying things, then that's a problem. I love to use these quantitative ways because unlike, you know, let's say diabetes, right? If you go on for diabetes tests, you know where your glucose is, you know where your hemoglobin A1C is. But with mental health, it's kind of harder, like you don't have a test where you can look at and say, oh, I'm getting happier, right? But these quantitative measures, these tests, are really helpful. So you can go on my website, take the Anhedonia Quiz and see if you're getting points of joy. Lesley Logan 18:44  You have a quiz? Dr. Judith Joseph 18:45  Yes, I have an Anhedonia Quiz on my website, and you can see whether or not you're getting points of joy in life. And then what I ask is that people practice the five V's, because that's based on the science of your happiness. So the five v's are, number one is validation. A lot of us with high functioning we're always pushing down our feelings if they're negative. We only talk about the good. We don't like to talk about the bad. Someone says, how you're doing, oh, I'm great, and your house could literally be burning down, and you're saying, great, you know? So I want people to start learning how to accept their emotions, whether they be negative or positive, and there are many tools that I give in my book on how to validate, because people have a hard time with validation. Number two is venting. How do you express your emotions? And there are ways to do healthy venting, but there are ways to engage in unhealthy venting. I do a lot of content on, you know, narcissistic parents, and a lot of us had parents who trauma dumped on us when it was not appropriate. So I talk about how to vent in an appropriate way and the different creative ways to vent. You mentioned crying. You know, crying is something that a lot of people don't engage in because they think from childhood they were told to stop crying, you know, like you're a cry baby. But crying is actually a very healthy way to express emotions. And when you cry and you let a good cry, your body calms down, you feel relaxed, you feel more connected to you. The third V is values. And I say that values are things that don't have price tags. They are things that are priceless. So tap into things that, you know what and when you think at the end of the day, your last minutes of life, you're not going to be like, I wish I had that Gucci bag. You're going to be like, I wish I had five minutes with my loved ones, or I wish I had 10 minutes to do something that I always wanted to do, you know? So tap into those values. Try to get part of those values once a day. For me, it's learning and sharing my knowledge with my daughter, so, like, I love to learn black history and science, and I teach her because she wants to be a scientist. That makes me feel great, or when I volunteer and I offer my expertise to underprivileged youth, because that was me at one point in life that makes me feel good, that, you know, that's a value that I'm going to be like, wow, I wish I could do. I wish I did more good in life, you know. And then the fourth is vital. So we only get one body and brain. We have to take care of it. And so, you know, that's probably a lot where you come in, in terms of understanding how to honor the mind-body connection, eating foods that decrease inflammation that are not processed, drinking enough water, getting sleep, you know, like putting that phone away and getting really rich sleep, getting movement that actually helps your longevity and makes you feel happier, and understanding how relationships can be very toxic. And I wish that this was taught in school when I was growing up, but a lot of people don't understand how negative relationships can really drain your life force, and then having that healthy work life balance that's all in the vitals. And then the fifth V is vision. How do you plan for joy in the future? And when I say a future, I don't mean like, 10 years from now. I mean like, as in an hour from now. So for example, after this podcast, I'm gonna have a nice dinner, probably curry or sushi, and I'm gonna eat it, not in front of a screen. I might watch a little bit of Emily in Paris, because that's my guilty pleasure. You know, like these are little points of joy that I'm gonna plan, to treat myself, because today I helped people. I talked with you, these are all things that I need to celebrate, but we don't celebrate but we don't celebrate that. We're like, well, we're supposed to be doing these things, you know, no, every time I get my daughter to school on time, I pat myself on the back, and I sit and I drink my coffee, my oat milk latte, and I take my time. I don't go straight to work. I go home. Take my time. It, 5, 10 minutes, and just say I did a good job. I got her to work. I got her to school on time today. These are all things that we can savor in life, but we rush, we're busy. We don't take the time. We don't treat ourselves like human beings. You know, how many times have you eaten in front of a screen and they're like, you can't even taste the food, you know, and you love the food, but you're like, did you enjoy that meal? Not really. I just needed to get rid of that hunger pain. So the five Vs can really help you to understand the science of your happiness. Once you do that Venn diagram, and then you apply the five Vs to your life, it can really make a difference and increase those little points of joy every day. Lesley Logan 23:11  I really love each one of those in a different way, also what I'm getting. I love that you introduced yourself as high functioning AF, because I do think that a lot of the people like myself and the people who listen to this podcast, we start to think like, maybe I should do less. If I just do less, then I'll be happier. But then we are not happier doing less, because we are people who want to do things, and we are high-functioning people we and so I loved that it's not necessarily about not doing stuff, it's about how you do stuff and how you acknowledge what you're doing. And I think that that's really special, because it's sort of going, going, going, it's like, yeah, pat, I got my kid, my daughter at school on time today. Way to go. Yes. We have an episode on Fridays here. It's called Fuck Yeah Friday. And just this year I changed it so, like, I share a story from Instagram or the internet that, like, inspired me, some woman who inspired me whatever she did. But then it's about sharing the wins from the listeners. So they send in a win, and sometimes they send in these wins, like I finally did, blah, blah, blah. And my favorite wins are, like, I actually made dinner for myself and I went to bed on time, and I'm like, yes, that's a win. That's a huge win. You know, we have to give ourselves credit for that, because, just because it's what you think you're supposed to be doing you not celebrating it is not going to help you enjoy doing it in the future, and it's not going to help you do it in the future. So I, those are my favorites, and so that's what the episode is about. It's about celebrating the things we did do, as opposed to like these achievements that we're waiting to celebrate until a certain time comes. I think that that is, it's hard to do. Most people can't see a win in something or a celebration in something that they're supposed to do. So thank you for highlighting that. Your book. You wrote a book. I think anyone who writes a book to get their word out into the world is amazing, because it's not the easiest thing to write a book. Who is the book for and what are you hoping they get from it?Dr. Judith Joseph 24:55  I'm glad you said that people who are high-functioning AF want to do everything, because five Vs is a lot. And I can personally say, and I say this in the book, pick one or two, because the rule of twos says you really shouldn't be working on more than one or two things at a time. But I like one and two. I like validation, because it's something we can all do. And I like venting a lot, like, sometimes I'll just be so exhausted, and I'm like, why am I so tired? I'm like, wait a second, I'm not practicing the five Vs. I validate, I acknowledge, actually, I am tired. I had a long day. And then I vent. Sometimes I say it out loud. Or I'll tell my partner, listen, I had a really busy day. Or I'll tell my daughter, I was like, oh, mommy, had a busy day, you know? Like, I then I really try. Or I'll, like, put something on Canva, on IG, and say I've had a rough day, or something like that, but I'm venting. I'm expressing. And the other things, you know, the values, I try to tap into at least something a little a day, you know, for my values, vitals, that's hard to get to. I don't work out every day. I try to, but it doesn't happen. But at least if I'm not going to work out, well, I'm going to eat well. And if I'm not going to eat well, I'm gonna sleep better or drink more water or limit my screen time. So, there's a temptation to want to do it all, but pick one or two and tap into it, and then score yourself and see if the anhedonia is getting better. And I really do believe that once you start to do these things that are not expensive, like these, are all things within your capacity, right, to democratize mental health, you can do these things, and your life will be happier. But this book is for that family member who never acknowledges how they're feeling when they struggle because they're the rock. The book is for that entrepreneur who really is afraid of bankruptcy, doesn't ever want to be in that position again, and overworks and overextends and doesn't enjoy their wins. It's for that mom out there who puts everyone before herself, who feels depleted but can't slow down because she feels empty and restless when she sits still she doesn't even know what makes her happy anymore. You know, it's for that immigrant student who feels as if everyone's dreams are on their back and they can't fail, they can't tell anyone that they're struggling, it really is for those people who wear a mask, like the educator, the teacher who spends all their money getting their students supplies, but doesn't even eat lunch, you know like you are seeing you matter, so take care of yourself, because there's no one else like you, and you're worthy of it.Lesley Logan 27:27  That is so beautiful, and I love that you can be in a different walk of life and this book is still for you, because there is, we all have these dreams and aspirations, and sometimes those are other people's dreams and aspirations on top of that, and it can just be a lot. I'm assuming the five Vs are in this book. If people want to, like, read and score and write notes, I do want to attach that I love, that you put values in there. It's something I really in this house, like, we like to all filter things through my, our values. And I'm like, that's a no, because it's not hitting one of these things, and I can't take on more than that. So I love that. And if it can fit one of these things, I could do it, but doesn't. But I never thought about, like, how to make sure I'm acting with that as a way of finding some joy. Because, yeah, that's really, really cool. And yes, I love that if you're not moving well, then eat well. And if you're not going to eat well, then you got to sleep well. You got to do something. You got to do something for your body. Yes. For you, you practice those five Vs because so in 2020 you felt like, okay, I must have this, like, high-functioning depression thing. Obviously, you worked your way through and this is where you're at, is this something that, as a high-functioning person, you might dip in and out of or you can start to recognize it. And the goal is, like you recognize it faster, so you don't go into the depression for too long before you get yourself out. Like, I guess what I'm asking is for my perfectionist is like, is this a light switch once we get over our shit, can we feel really awesome and we never have to go back? Or is this something that we gotta just monitor?Dr. Judith Joseph 28:55  I'm glad you said that, because one of the risk factors for this is something called people-pleasing. But people don't realize that people-pleasing is actually a watered down version of masochism. So before the term masochistic personality disorder was removed from the DSM, the bible of psychiatry, it was really a caricature of someone who sacrifices their own happiness for someone else's happiness, or who's constantly in a position of giving and not getting. And when people think of masochism, they think of sex. But it's not that type of masochism. It's the personality traits that makes people bend over backwards when they shouldn't be but they feel as if that's the only way right? These are doers. They do, do do but what ends up happening is that the takers, they don't, like, thank you. They're resentful of you. They're like, well, do everything because you wanted something, or did you think I wasn't capable? So it actually backfires. So falling into these traits of being a doer is a pattern. It's a way of life for so long but yeah, you're going to work on yourself, but there's going to be a time when you fall back, and I'm guilty of that too. I'm constantly oscillating. But when I start to practice the five Vs and I'm like, let me, like I just demonstrated, let me validate that I went through a hard day, let me acknowledge these feelings, it's easier for me to snap out of that downward spiral because I'm practicing these skills. And so I always explain happiness as when we think of happiness, we think of this picture in the future, like I finally got the job, or I finally got the clout, or I finally got the thing that I wanted, the person that I wanted, the home that I wanted. And then what research shows us is that when we get these things, we're still unhappy. We're on to the next right? So my philosophy has shifted to finding happiness in the now. So when I get into that slump where I'm like, looking around me and I'm like, oh, so and so is doing that, and I'm starting to feel low, and maybe I should be doing more, it's easier for me to snap back into my values, right? I acknowledge how I feel, I validate, I vent it, but then I also tap into my values. And I'm like, wait, but I don't value what they value. My values are different, and I'm pretty good right here, where I am, I'm pleased in what I value right now. So that allows me to slow down. And so I think the more you practice this, the more exposure you get to this. Not only do you change, but the people around you change. I always say anhedonia is contagious, but joy is contagious, too. If you've ever had a boss that was a micromanager who was doing everything and you all were like, oh my gosh, we're so busy, we're all burnt out. And if that something good happened to that boss, let's say they finally dated someone, or they finally got validation in life, or something happened and or maybe even they got ill and they realized this is not important. When that boss shifts, the organization shifts, right? An organization is only as good as its CEO. So I think that anhedonia is contagious, but so is joy. So when you start to shift inside, people are going to notice it. They're going to come towards you and be like something's different. I want what you have, and you may not be more successful, you may not have more money, you may not be more beautiful, but you have something that they want, and they're going to gravitate towards you, but you have to get it for yourself. They can't have what you have. And I really do think that people will start to cultivate joy within themselves by understanding the science of your happiness and applying your five Vs to your life. Lesley Logan 28:55  Oh my gosh. I feel like every woman has to get this book for their best friend, just even as preventative, even if your friend isn't going through this yet, it's true that anhedonia is contagious, and also so can that high function like the doing can be contagious too. So I really appreciate you. I feel like we could learn so much. Now I might have to just binge out on every video you make, but I can't wait to read the book when it comes out, and probably send it to 17 of my friends. So we're gonna take a brief break, though, and then find out where people can find you, follow you, work with you, get your book and then your Be It Action Items. Lesley Logan 32:58  All right, Dr. Judith, you truly have given us a wealth of knowledge. Where can people connect with you, get your book. Where do you like to hang out? Dr. Judith Joseph 33:06  So they can buy my book at drjudithjoseph.com or follow me on IG, Dr. Judith Joseph and all the socials they could find my book there. And if you order before the pub date, you get preorder bonuses, and I have courses on the science of your happiness and ways to take you through the five Vs. Lesley Logan 33:27  Oh my goodness. Thank you so much for bringing you. You really have given us a lot, the five Vs is amazing. So if that ends up being part of this Be It Action Items, that's totally fine with me, but something that caused this podcast to exist is I would be drawn to someone and love what they said, and then going, okay, like, what is my first next step, though, you know? And so the bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Dr. Judith Joseph 33:51  I just recently did this guided meditation with Deepak Chopra, and he said something that I thought was profound. He just kept saying, lose your name and just say I am. And it's really like a part of the just be, you know, what is it to just be? And if you could just take five minutes a day just to feel your being, just to get to know yourself again, I think many of us have forgotten who we are. So if you could just be, you know, I say, be a human being, not a human doing, you could learn so much about yourself. That self-reflection time, you could practice the five V's during that time, you could just practice one, validation, right, and just be. It sounds simple, but I think it's very difficult for a lot of us to just be. Lesley Logan 34:40  To sit for five minutes is very difficult. And you guys, like, what I found is like, 30 minutes is only 2% of your day, so five minutes is, like, not even a half a percent. So I don't do math well, so don't correct me. But if we cannot take five minutes for our day, we really do have to re evaluate what we're doing and who we're doing it for, because that is not the easiest thing to just be for five minutes, but ooh, I sit in a cold plunge every morning for four minutes, four minutes. And here's why, my tub is not big enough for my whole body. So three minutes with like, shoulders, hips, stomach, ankles, and then a minute for the knees to go in. And what I can say is I don't want to do it before I get in. I step in and I'm like, why am I doing this? I get in, I'm like, the air is sucked out, and then within a few seconds, you kind of settle in, and you're like, I just have to be here for four minutes. This is all I have to do. And it really is something that I'm so grateful that I do every day, because it does let me, like, set to go okay, today is today. Here I am today. I'm not even thinking about the schedule. It's just kind of like this moment and just being in this moment, where am I feeling this and how am I doing? And I highly recommend it. You don't have to get a plunge, but it just sits still for five minutes and see how you're doing. I highly recommend. I love that Be It Action Item. I think it'll be a challenge for a lot of people, unfortunately, but also I hope it's one that they take on, because I do love that. Dr. Judith, you are fabulous. I hope to one day, run into you and see what you're doing changing this world, because I do think this, your book and what you're saying are really what people are needing to hear right now. And I also just want to highlight one more time, everything you said in those five Vs is not actually going to cost a lot of money. It's like things you can just do by evaluating and addressing. So I appreciate tips like that. So thank you being you. Lesley Logan 36:18  Y'all, how are you gonna use these tips in your life? Make sure you tag Dr. Judith, you tag the Be It Pod, share this with a friend, but this is a friend who needs to hear it, you know, sometimes we feel like we have to help everyone, and sometimes we can help them by sending Dr. Judith's words to them so that she can help them and you can go back to taking care of you. So thank you so much. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 36:39  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Dr. Judith Joseph, renowned psychiatrist and author of High Functioning: Overcome Your Hidden Depression and Reclaim Your Joy, joins Ginny Yurich on The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast to shine a light on a silent epidemic—high-functioning depression. In this eye-opening conversation, Dr. Judith explains why so many seemingly successful, productive people—especially women—feel numb, restless, and joyless while continuing to perform at a high level. She unpacks the connection between trauma, people-pleasing, and emotional exhaustion, and introduces powerful concepts like anhedonia and modern-day masochism that help explain why burnout alone doesn't tell the whole story. With warmth, clarity, and depth, Dr. Judith offers real tools for reclaiming joy through her five V's framework—including valuing relationships, taking tech breaks, and even learning how to celebrate again. She reminds us that joy isn't a distant ideal, but something we can reach for daily in small, intentional ways. If you've ever felt like you're just going through the motions or can't figure out why life feels so heavy, this episode will help you name it—and start to heal it. ** Get your copy of High Functioning here Learn more about everything Dr. Judith has to offer here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices