Podcasts about captain america comics

¡El mundo en guerra! ¡La Alemania Nazi invade Polonia y se alía con la Unión Soviética de Stalin! Jerry Siegel y Joe Shuster crean un comic de dos páginas (bit.ly/perdidos625super) que muestra como Superman terminaría con la guerra... ¡y son refutados por un órgano oficial del gobierno de Hitler! Así, en la Francia ocupada, Superman y Batman tienen que eludir a la censura nazi bajo identidades como L'Homme D'Acier (bueno, no se mataron mucho), François L'Imbattable, Le Justicier, Les Ailes Rouges, y alguno todavía más extraño. Además, como The Phantom habría ayudado a los noruegos a resistir al nazismo, la razón por la que Captain America Comics #1 tuvo que salir de apuro, el comic que predijo un hecho pivotal de la guerra, y el dibujante de comics que se convirtió en uno de los héroes que dibujaba... de la forma más literal posible. Todo esto, y mucho más, en Historias de Historietas, antes conocido como Leyendas Urbanas de Comics. Con música de Gilbert Moryn (interpretando a Maurice Van Moppès y Francis Chagrin), y White Wizzard. Próximo programa: No sabemos, pero algo de comics.

This week, the boys discuss the Ed Brubaker run on Captain America and do a birthday Q and A. Captain America is a superhero created by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby who appears in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. The character first appeared in Captain America Comics #1, published on December 20, 1940, by Timely Comics, a corporate predecessor to Marvel. Like, comment, and subscribe for more content analyzing the greatest tales of DC and Marvel stories. Join this channel to get access to perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTtjdjM7N8_PLprDIdMJCWQ/join#Marvel#CaptainAmericaBraveNewWorld#ChrisEvansFollow us on instagram: comicsleague2021Email us: comicsleague2020@gmail.comWebsite: https://comicsleague.com Subscribe to the Podcast on:Apple PodcastsGoogle PodcastsSpotifyand many other platforms.Music provided by taketones.com: https://taketones.com/track/hero

This week, the boys discuss the MCU Captain America Trilogy, aka the best MCU trilogy. Captain America is a superhero created by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby who appears in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. The character first appeared in Captain America Comics #1, published on December 20, 1940, by Timely Comics, a corporate predecessor to Marvel. Like, comment, and subscribe for more content analyzing the greatest tales of DC and Marvel stories. Join this channel to get access to perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTtjdjM7N8_PLprDIdMJCWQ/join#Marvel#CaptainAmericaBraveNewWorld#ChrisEvansFollow us on instagram: comicsleague2021Email us: comicsleague2020@gmail.comWebsite: https://comicsleague.com Subscribe to the Podcast on:Apple PodcastsGoogle PodcastsSpotifyand many other platforms.Music provided by taketones.com: https://taketones.com/track/hero

When Captain America throws his mighty shield.... well, he's not throwing his shield yet, but he's already got a 9 year old sidekick who sleeps in bed with him? Yes, this is just one of the revelations coming out of Captain America Comics #1, where Joe Simon and Jack Kirby introduce the Star-Spangled Avenger and his nemesis The Red Skull. And there are backup stories, and get this - they're first appearances of major Marvel mythological concepts as well! Pretty impressive for 1941.Next week: Detective Comics #38, the first appearance of Robin, the Boy Wonder!

Comics are for kids. We all know that. But don't kids deserve a little bit more respect? This is the question that hangs over the two stories in The Flash #110, which sees the introduction of Wally West, aka Kid Flash, aka a future Flash. Before we get to the origin of this scarlet speedster we got ourselves some news, including pondering about whether they'll keep Israeli superhero Sabra in the new Captain America, which seems like it's going to do a complete reshoot in the coming months. Next week: join us as we revisit the first appearance of Captain America himself in Captain America Comics #1! Lets knock out some Ratzis in this comic you can find on the Marvel app and likely for free on a bunch of other services. Want more? Join us on the Patreon at www.patreon.com/cinemasangha and get more podcasts and hang out on our Discord!

"How many of you are ready to help me sock old Adolf on the jaw?" The latest edition of our "Iconic Superhero 1st Appearances" features the Star-Spangled man with a plan ... CAPTAIN AMERICA! Ryan is joined this week by Will Spottedbear, Chris Fazio, and Will Rose. Consider supporting Many Paths on PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=65477484 --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/ryan-does2/message

Our buddy George O'Connor (The Olympians graphic novels, and currently, the Asgardians)  is back on the show with us to talk HURRICANE, SON OF THOR a character (who like George) has a connection to the gods of olde… and we're gonna discuss how! This Simon & Kirby story appears in Timely's Captain America Comics issue 1 (December 1940), and has a through-line into other Kirby works. Plus, George tells us about his Thor story in the brand new Marvel Super Stories book (coming mid-October 2023)! Exciting/fun stuff!   Check out what George has going on by visiting his website: www.georgeoconnorbooks.com And follow him on Instagram: @thegeorgeoconnor Listen to his podcast, too!  @hypotheticalisland  @seddy_bimco   To listen to Jacked Kirby everywhere, and to follow our social media pages, visit our FlowPage: www.flow.page/jackedkirby There's also a link there to purchase a Jacked Kirby t-shirt, so go get one!    If you like the show, share the show! Tag a friend, tell a friend, share the flyer, spread the word! And please rate/review the show on Apple (or wherever else you can rate & review it!) Thanks!

Created by writer Joe Simon and artist Jack Kirby in the eponymous Captain America Comics #1, the patriotic hero became a breakout star for Timely Comics. Written by R. Joseph Parrott. Narration by Dr. Nicholas B. Breyfogle. Video production by Cody Patton, Laura Seeger, and Dr. Nicholas B. Breyfogle. A textual version of this video is available at https://origins.osu.edu/milestones/captain-america-changing-conscience-nation. This is a production of Origins: Current Events in Historical Perspective at the Goldberg Center in the Department of History at The Ohio State University and the Department of History at Miami University. Be sure to subscribe to our channel to receive updates about our videos and podcasts. For more information about Origins: Current Events in Historical Perspective, please visit origins.osu.edu.

Bob & Rick discuss the relaunch of the Captain America Comics series in 1954 - focusing on Cap as the Commie Smasher! Why did these Atlas comics only last three issues? Did focusing on communists backfire? How do the later retcons fit in? As a bonus, Rick reads "The Hour of Doom" story from issue #78 - the last Cap story before he was revived in Avengers #4! Connect with Rick & Bob and fellow Cap fans at https://www.facebook.com/groups/captainamericacomicbookfans and https://twitter.com/CapComicFans Are you enjoying this podcast series? Please help by donating at: https://anchor.fm/capcomicbookfans/support Please subscribe, rate and review! Want to be part of the show? Leave a recorded message at https://anchor.fm/capcomicbookfans/message Our home page is https://captainamericacomicbookfans.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/capcomicbookfans/support

Aujourd'hui, on va se pencher sur un pan tout à fait particulier de la bande dessinée américaine, à la fois politique, polémique et exotique : l'étrange habitude des auteurs de comics qui consiste à utiliser Adolf Hitler dans leurs histoires… Évidemment, au cas où vous en douteriez, il ne sera pas question de faire ici l'apologie d'un dictateur responsable de la mort de millions de personnes, ni du nazisme ou de l'intolérance sous toutes ses formes, mais bien de parler de comics. Pour recontextualiser un peu, Adolf Hitler est un dictateur ayant pris le pouvoir en Allemagne en 1933. Figure centrale de l'idéologie nazie, il instaure dans son pays un régime fasciste, raciste, homophobe et antisémite, avant de mener une campagne militaire à visée expansionniste dans une bonne partie de l'Europe, à l'origine de la Seconde Guerre Mondiale. Responsable de l'extermination de dizaines de millions de personnes, le Troisième Reich dirigé par Hitler sera l'un des régimes les plus meurtriers et liberticides du XXe siècle, avant d'être définitivement renversé par les alliés en 1945.Évidemment, je vous la fais courte, premièrement car je ne suis pas prof d'histoire, et deuxièmement parce que j'ose croire que chacun et chacune d'entre vous est au courant des crimes atroces commis par l'Allemagne nazie et ses sympathisants. Mais il est quand même important de comprendre que pendant plusieurs années, Adolf Hitler, les nazis, et le Troisième Reich ont été une menace pour une grande partie des nations partout à travers le monde, y compris les États-Unis. Et cette époque coïncide justement avec l'explosion d'un genre à part entière au pays de l'Oncle Sam : le comic book de super-héros. Quand Superman apparaît pour la première fois dans le numéro 1 de Action Comics, en 1938, le monde n'est pas encore en guerre, mais la situation en Europe est déjà bien assez préoccupante pour que l'air du temps inspire les artistes de comics. Le monde a besoin de héros pour affronter des menaces toujours plus grandes, et l'invasion de la Pologne en 1939 va offrir des adversaires de choix aux super-héros américains qui se multiplient à vue d'œil. Rapidement, le régime nazi, ses soldats, et surtout ses espions, se révèlent être de parfaits antagonistes pour les histoires de justiciers costumés. Dès octobre 1939, le deuxième numéro de Marvel Mystery Comics nous raconte comment The Angel a sauvé la population polonaise des bombardements allemands. Puis en juin 1940, Adolf Hitler apparaît en personne, sans toutefois être nommé, dans la toute première, mais aussi l'unique aventure de Marvel Boy, créé par le duo formé par Joe Simon et Jack Kirby. Le début d'une très longue liste d'apparitions dans les pages de nos comic books préférés. Je vous le dis tout de suite : il me sera impossible d'être exhaustif, car Adolf Hitler apparaît littéralement dans plusieurs centaines de comic books, parfois le temps d'une case, parfois en tant qu'antagoniste principal, et ce qui est sûr, c'est qu'aucun autre personnage historique ne possède une carrière comparable dans la bande dessinée américaine, encore plus quand on se souvient que l'on parle quand même d'un dictateur génocidaire. La parution de Captain America Comics #1, en décembre 1940, a marqué l'histoire et les lecteurs en montrant sur sa couverture la sentinelle de la liberté en train de mettre une bonne grosse droite au Führer. Héros patriotique par excellence, inspiré par le succès de The Shield, un personnage de l'éditeur MLJ apparu quelques mois plus tôt, Captain America incarne le tournant pris par les États-Unis durant l'année 1941, alors que le pays prépare son entrée en guerre qui semble désormais inévitable. Ce tournant est particulièrement visible dans les comic books : une bonne partie des super-héros du Golden Age vont traverser l'Atlantique pour combattre les soldats allemands, et parfois Hitler en personne. C'est le cas du Captain Marvel de Fawcett, de Namor the Sub-Mariner, de Superman, de The Flash, de Blue Beetle, du premier Human Torch, mais aussi de Black Terror, ou encore du premier Daredevil publié par Lev Gleason. En parallèle, des magazines réunissant plusieurs super-héros, comme Young Allies, All Winners ou Master Comics, multiplient les interventions de leurs personnages sur le vieux continent pour tenir tête aux nazis dans des aventures qui verront naître quelques super-vilains aussi saugrenus que dans l'air du temps, comme Captain Nazi, et tout cela avant même que les États-Unis ne prennent part au conflit mondial pour de bon, en décembre 1941. Hitler et ses soldats seront aussi moqués et parodiés dans une quantité non-négligeable de titres humoristiques, ou ridiculisés par les alliés dans des titres publiant des histoires de guerre, alors qu'au même moment, certains artistes sont mobilisés en Europe pour affronter les nazis, dans des combats bien réels, cette fois. Si ces publications peuvent sembler naïves, elles sont pourtant  l'expression d'une tendance propagandiste absolument assumée par la bande dessinée américaine de l'époque, encourageant les lecteurs en âge de s'engager à aller combattre les nazis, et ceux qui ne peuvent le faire à soutenir l'effort de guerre, notamment en achetant des “war bonds”, équivalent des obligations de guerre en France, pour financer la campagne militaire contre les forces de l'Axe. Après la mort de Hitler et la victoire des Alliés en 1945, une page se tourne pour nos super-héros préférés. Si pendant la Seconde Guerre Mondiale, le marché des comics était à son apogée, tout comme le genre super-héroïque, et que Adolf Hitler représentait de toute évidence le grand méchant idéal, ne pouvant être surpassé par une autre menace réelle ou fictive, l'après-guerre s'avère bien plus complexe. Le genre peine à se renouveler, le public se tourne vers d'autres types de récits de romance, de western, d'horreur ou de science-fiction. Plus légères, moins terre-à-terre, ces histoires tranchent de façon nette et définitive avec la propagande militariste de la première moitié du Golden Age et invitent à l'évasion, loin des champs de bataille. Oh, bien sûr, les super-héros ne disparaissent pas pour autant. Une poignée d'entre eux subsiste, mais ils rencontrent quelques difficultés quand il s'agit de trouver un adversaire à leur taille. Une aspiration qui mènera généralement les justiciers et justicières costumées sur le terrain de la science-fiction, et même parfois de l'épouvante. Durant cette période, les auteurs ont tendance à restreindre l'aspect politique des super-héros, tout du moins au premier degré, mais quelques exceptions confirment la règle, comme Captain America qui, en bon patriote, affronte le temps de quelques numéros des espions communistes dans des aventures inspirées par la chasse aux rouges encouragée par le Maccarthysme. Des histoires revues et corrigées par Marvel depuis, qui nourriront quelques arcs narratifs autour des individus ayant remplacé Steve Rogers durant son séjour dans la glace… En parlant de réécrire l'histoire, c'est à partir des années 1960 que l'utilisation d'Adolf Hitler dans les comics devient aussi intéressante qu'inattendue. Le dictateur est mort, sa dépouille a été détruite par les Soviétiques, mais son fantôme va faire les belles heures de la bande dessinée américaine.  Parmi les premières séries du Silver Age à utiliser de façon notable et régulière le personnage de Hitler, on peut mentionner Sergeant Fury and his Howling Commandos chez Marvel, dont le premier numéro paraît en 1963, et dans laquelle l'équipe d'élite de Nick Fury combat les nazis en Europe durant la Deuxième Guerre Mondiale. Sans en avoir l'air, les aventures du Sergent Fury et de ses hommes vont développer un riche background à l'univers Marvel, en donnant un passé de nazi à certains super-vilains que les Fantastic Four ou les Avengers affrontent en parallèle dans leurs propres séries. Car c'est toujours en 1963 que Hitler refait surface chez Marvel, et cette fois-ci dans une histoire de super-héros se déroulant à l'époque contemporaine de sa parution, dans Fantastic Four #21. On y découvre le personnage du Hate Monger, étrange individu encapuchonné haïssant les étrangers, et doté d'un rayon de haine lui permettant de transformer n'importe qui en forcené. À la fin de l'épisode, on apprend avec stupeur que ce fameux Hate Monger n'est autre que… Adolf Hitler ! Même si le mystère demeure, dans un premier temps, quant à l'authenticité de l'identité de ce super-vilain, on découvrira ensuite que le Hate Monger est en fait le fruit du travail du scientifique nazi Arnim Zola, qui est parvenu a transférer la conscience du dictateur dans le corps d'un clone juste avant sa mort. Une saga qui s'étend sur plusieurs années, puisque les détails du procédé ne seront révélés qu'en 1980, dans Super-Villain Team-Up #17 ! L'autre série Marvel qui réécrit l'histoire, c'est The Invaders, publiée à partir de 1975 et s'étalant sur quarante-et-un numéros dans sa première mouture. Équipe formée par Captain America, Bucky, Namor le Prince des Mers, l'androïde Jim Hammond, alias Human Torch, et son sidekick Toro, les Invaders revisitent les combats menés par les super-héros du Golden Age durant la Deuxième Guerre Mondiale. Affrontant également Hitler et divers super-nazis, tels que Master Man, les Invaders sont à l'origine de plusieurs retcons, des corrections de la continuité de l'univers de façon rétroactive, chez Marvel. On y verra par exemple le Führer invoquer Thor, le dieu du Tonnerre, pour combattre Captain America et ses coéquipiers, à une époque où ce dernier n'était pas encore devenu l'alter ego de Donald Blake. Dans What If ? #4, paru en 1977, l'un des rares What If ? considérés comme canoniques, on apprend par exemple que c'est le premier Human Torch en personne qui aurait tué Adolf Hitler dans son bunker avant qu'il n'ait le temps de se suicider. Une révélation qui pourrait se raccrocher aux propos passés de Jim Hammond, lors de son retour dans le vingt-quatrième numéro de Young Men, en 1953. Vous l'aurez compris, dans les comics, le puzzle formé par l'alliance de l'histoire et de la fiction est parfois très complexe. Bien que les séries de guerre ne soient plus franchement le genre dominant durant l'Âge d'Argent et l'Âge de Bronze de la BD américaine, on pourra aussi noter des apparitions du Führer dans plusieurs numéros de G.I. Combat et de Weird War Tales, chez DC Comics, durant les années 70 et 80. Le cinquante-huitième numéro de Weird War Tales, série mêlant très efficacement guerre et horreur avec des histoires à chute dans la tradition de EC Comics, nous raconte par exemple comment Hitler a en fait échappé à la mort en 1945 pour se réveiller un millénaire plus tard. Dans le numéro 89, c'est à une armée de primates conditionnés par les nazis que le lecteur doit faire face, tandis que dans le numéro 108, un camp de prisonniers tenu par les nazis est la cible d'un commando constitué d'un vampire, d'un loup-garou et du monstre de Frankenstein ! Tout un programme, qui sera recyclé bien plus tard par DC lors de l'événement Flashpoint, avec la mini-série Frankenstein and the Creatures of the Unknown. Toujours chez DC Comics, le All-Star Squadron, qui compte dans ses rangs des héros comme Hawkman, Hawkgirl, le premier Atom, Johnny Quick ou encore Liberty Belle, va, au cours des soixante-sept épisodes parus entre 1981 et 1987, croiser à plusieurs reprises la route d'Adolf Hitler. Cette série sans doute inspirée du concept des Invaders chez Marvel, mais dans la longue tradition super-héroïque de DC Comics héritée du Golden Age, est une assez bonne démonstration de la façon dont la bande dessinée américaine va, d'une façon tout à fait méta qui lui est propre, réécrire à la fois sa propre histoire et l'histoire de la Seconde Guerre Mondiale dans le but de fournir un divertissement super-héroïque aussi efficace que détaché de toute forme de réalisme. À la même période, mais avec une approche pratiquement opposée, l'éditeur publie les aventures beaucoup plus dramatiques du Unknown Soldier, anonyme défiguré durant la guerre du Pacifique usant de ses talents en déguisement pour infiltrer les lignes ennemies. Dans le deux-cent-soixante-huitième et dernier numéro de sa série, le personnage ira jusqu'à s'introduire dans le bunker secret d'Hitler pour éliminer le despote et prendre sa place pour induire l'armée allemande en erreur aux dernières heures de la bataille de Berlin. Comme chez Marvel avec Human Torch, les super-héros américains s'attribuent ici le rôle de sauveurs absolus qui, plus qu'ayant contribué à la victoire des Alliés, ont carrément été débusquer le leader nazi jusque dans son repère pour le tuer de leurs mains ! Tout un symbole, mais aussi une vision très autocentrée du rôle des États-Unis dans le conflit. Comme je le disais, il m'est impossible d'être exhaustif, Adolf Hitler apparaissant dans une quantité astronomique de comic books, des années 1940 à nos jours. On le retrouve dans Hellboy, dans Savage Dragon, dans l'excellente série Über, mais aussi de façon plus surprenante sur la route des Tortues Ninja, et même le temps de deux épisodes complètement lunaires de la série Turok de Valiant Comics. Je vous épargne la lecture de la série éponyme en six numéros parue chez Elvifrance en 1978, “Hitler”, qui s'inspire des théories autour de la survie du tyran après la fin de la Deuxième Guerre Mondiale, sans prendre aucune précaution vis-à-vis des faits historiquement prouvés. Mais je vous recommande de jeter un œil au O.M.A.C. de John Byrne chez DC Comics, brillante mini-série de 4 numéros parue en 1991, dans laquelle le héros carbonise littéralement Hitler. Alors, est-il finalement possible de considérer Hitler comme un personnage de comics à part entière ? Difficile de le nier tant son rôle compte pour certains éditeurs. Le Baron Zemo, HYDRA, et bien évidemment le terrible Crâne Rouge sont autant de figures liées de près ou de loin à l'existence d'Adolf Hitler et des nazis dans l'univers Marvel. Tout ça soulève d'ailleurs plusieurs problématiques assez intéressantes : par exemple, est-il moralement acceptable de se promener dans la rue avec un t-shirt aux couleurs de l'organisation HYDRA ? Est-ce une bonne idée d'acheter une figurine de Red Skull à ses gosses ? Le divertissement a-t-il pris le pas sur le contexte et l'idéologie de ces personnages ? Adolf Hitler a, qu'on le veuille ou non, un statut unique. Il est incontestablement l'un des pires criminels de l'histoire moderne, si ce n'est l'incarnation du mal absolu pour plusieurs générations d'auteurs, de dessinateurs et de lecteurs partout à travers le monde. De ce fait, son utilisation dans la fiction ne possède pour ainsi dire aucun élément de comparaison valable et peut avant tout être vue comme une façon d'exorciser la douleur et la peine causées par ses agissements. En montrant Hitler frappé, ridiculisé et mis au tapis par un coup de poing bien placé donné par l'un de nos héros préférés ou l'une de nos héroïnes favorites, les artistes de comics dédramatisent à leur façon en reforgeant l'histoire de la Seconde Guerre Mondiale sous un jour moins sombre, tout en transmettant les valeurs de tolérance et de justice chères au genre super-héroïque. On peut aussi déceler dans tous ces récits de fictions l'expression d'une forme de crainte du retour du fascisme et des extrêmes sur le devant de la scène politique, et ça dès les années 1960, alors que certaines catégories sociales jusqu'alors réduites au silence parviennent enfin, et non sans mal, à avoir voix au chapitre. De toute évidence, aussi triste que cela puisse être, la libération de la parole de gens opprimés pour leur orientation sexuelle, leur religion ou leur couleur de peau, appelle généralement à des réactions toujours plus spectaculaires de la part de ceux qui cultivent l'intolérance et font en sorte que les discriminations systémiques persistent. Pour moi, c'est une partie de ce qui est symbolisé par le retour de Hitler dans la bande dessinée américaine du Silver Age. Quand, en 1963, le Hate Monger utilise son rayon pour pervertir la population, puis révèle son vrai visage une fois démasqué, celui de la haine débridée incarnée, on peut y voir la métaphore des défenseurs du ségrégationnisme qui militent pour le maintien d'une différence de traitement entre blancs et noirs à l'époque dans le pays. Quand Hitler émerge d'un long sommeil entouré de fidèles prêts à le servir par-delà la mort et les âges, dans Weird War ou dans les pages de Turok, c'est une nouvelle fois un message d'alerte qui est envoyé au lecteur : même lorsque le mal dort depuis très longtemps, on trouvera toujours quelques imbéciles pour le réveiller bien volontiers. Évidemment, je ne livre ici qu'une interprétation globale, et assurément un peu simpliste, de récits qui, en fonction de leur ton et de leur époque de production, mériteraient d'être décryptés un à un. Mais ce qu'il faut retenir, c'est que bien au-delà de l'aspect exotique, et parfois comique, de l'utilisation de Adolf Hitler comme personnage de comic book, il y a un fond. Un fond social et politique qui permet finalement de chasser quelques vieux démons tout en faisant en sorte que tout un chacun soit au fait de leur existence pour mieux les empêcher de revenir. N'hésitez pas à partager cet épisode sur les réseaux sociaux s'il vous a plu ! Merci pour votre soutien en tant que souscripteurs ! C'est aussi grâce à vous que cet article existe ! Get full access to CHRIS - POP CULTURE & COMICS at chrisstup.substack.com/subscribe

Listen in as MMP discusses another legendary golden age comic, Captain America #1-5 (1941), written and drawn by Joe Simon & Jack Kirby. The art and story were truly ahead of their time in this comic book. Even though it was drawn decades before computer generation, this comic proves it can match modern comics in quality of line work and action sequences. The story is equally impressive. At the time of publication, the U.S. was not involved in WW2, which makes it even more impressive that the comic was advocating for the U.S to enter the war. Will Captain America be able to stop the Nazis and Red Skull? Give this episode a listen in to find out what makes Captain America one of the most popular superheroes today!

Guest featuring Dr. Gordon Schmidt and Dr. Sy Islam, authors of Leaders Assemble! Leadership in the MCU! Not a hoax, not a dream...in this episode, a character dies! And…gets better. What're the chances two best friends both end up frozen in a block of ice for 50+ years? How easy is it to shower with a metal arm? Better golden age sidekick: Bucky or Robin? Find out probably none of this in this episode! The comics: Captain America Comics #1, Avengers #4, and Captain America v5 #11. Twitter: @notadreampod Instagram: @notahoaxpod Email: notahoaxpod@gmail.com Patreon: patreon.com/notadreampod Music: Big Boi Pants by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com - used with Creative Commons license Sound clips from All-Star Superman (2011), Justice League Unlimited (2004 - 2006), Batman Beyond (1999 - 2001), X-Men: The Animated Series (1992 - 1997), The Dark Knight (2008), Spider-Man (2002), Superman (1978), The Transformers: The Movie (1986), Justice League (2001 - 2004), Doom Patrol (2019 - ), WandaVision (2021), X-Men: Pryde of the X-Men (1989), the Konami X-Men Arcade Game (1992), and the Feb 10, 2022 episode of Hot Ones with Sebastian Stan. Episode art by Steve Epting, Michael Lark, Jack Kirby, Alex Schomburg, and Joe Simon. Clips and art used for purposes of research and criticism (Fair Use).

BONUS - Captain America Covers In which our heroes discuss covers to various Captain America Comics - cut from episode 010 Find out more at https://marvel-events-timeline.pinecast.co This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

BONUS In which our heroes discuss Captain America Comics #16. Cut from Episode 010. Find out more at https://marvel-events-timeline.pinecast.co This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

Captain America, The Destroyer & Miss America Main Feature (10:48 - 44:50): Captain America Comics #10 which is Joe Simon and Jack Kirby's last issue working on Captain America together. We review 'Spy Ambush', 'Hotel of Horror' and 'the Phantom Hound' stories. Plus: Mystic Comics #6 (47:50 - 1:07:40): 'Meet the Destroyer' Marvel Mystery Comics #49 (1:07:40 - 1:25:57): 'Scourge of the Nazi's' Next Episode: All-Winners Comics #19, Human Torch Comics #16 & Submariner Comics #16 Join the discussion over on Facebook in the Baxter Building Breakroom Music by Scott Tofte Find out more at https://marvel-events-timeline.pinecast.co This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

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006 - The Red Skull Every great hero needs a great villain. With the creation of Captain America came The Red Skull! But this gruesome monster may not always be quite the same arch-foe the star spangled avenger tussles with today. Listen to us talk about the creation of the Red Skull and a few of his first stories in Timely Comics. In this episode we look at: Captain America Comics #1 - Case 4 Captain America Comics #3 - Case 1 Captain America Comics #7 - Case 1 We'd love to know your thoughts on this event over in the MET Facebook Group: Baxter Building Breakroom.  As mentioned in this episode: cokeandcomics.com Follow MET on Instagram and Twitter @MarvelEventsPod Music by Scott Tofte and Voiceover by Johnie Powers Check out the hosts other shows! Travis - Reel Comic Heroes and Bryon - Marine Corps Movie Minute Find out more at https://marvel-events-timeline.pinecast.co This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

005 - Captain America - The Sentinel of Our Shores In this episode we continue our discussion of Jack Kirby and Joe Simon and the events that led them to join forces and create the character of Captain America. We crack open Captain America Comics #1 and pour over the origin story of “98lb weakling” Steve Rogers. We wrap up the episode with a reading of a prose story contained in the issue. We recruited Tom Taylor from Indiana Jones Minute to tackle the narration. We hope you enjoy. We'd love to know your thoughts on this event over in the MET Facebook Group: Baxter Building Breakroom.  Timestamps:  00:00 - 35:10 - Simon and Kirby 35:10 - 1:30:30 - Captain America Comics #1 1:30:30 - 1:36:45 - Captain America and the Soldier's Soup - Read by Tom Taylor with additional vocals by Dave Pallas. 1:36:45 - End - Wrap Up Stay tuned for our next episode in which we discuss Timely Comics' first recurring villain - The Red Skull! Follow MET on Instagram and Twitter @MarvelEventsPod Music by Scott Tofte and Voiceover by Johnie Powers Check out the hosts other shows! Travis - Reel Comic Heroes and Bryon - Marine Corps Movie Minute Find out more at https://marvel-events-timeline.pinecast.co This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

004 - Simon and Kirby We're leading up to Captain America Comics #1 but first we wanted to talk about the men who created him. Joe Simon and Jack Kirby are legends in the comic book world, even without creating Captain America we'd still be talking about these guys.  We'd love to know your thoughts on this event over in the MET Facebook Group: Baxter Building Breakroom. Our next episode will cover Captain America Comics #1 Follow MET on Instagram and Twitter @MarvelEventsPod Music by Scott Tofte and Voiceover by Johnie Powers Check out the hosts other shows! Travis - Reel Comic Heroes and Bryon - Marine Corps Movie Minute Find out more at https://marvel-events-timeline.pinecast.co This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

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It's time to return to The Dreaming! This week, we're discussing the third and fourth volumes of Neil Gaiman's celebrated series. Come for the one-off stories of Dream Country, and give the devil his due when we cheer Lucifer's epic trolling of Dream in Season of the Mists.  ----more---- Episode 17 Transcript Jessika: [00:00:00] I just, I like have had five sets of teeth in my life. They just keep growing bigger and bigger each set I got,   Hello, and welcome to Ten Cent Takes, the podcasts where we morph from delight to delirium one issue at a time. My name is Jessica Frazier and I'm joined by my cohost, the blasphemous baker, Mike Thompson.  Mike: I am full of carbs and caffeine. How are you doing? Jessika: Oh, I am somewhat of both as well. Could use a little more sleep, but I have a day off tomorrow, so I will be doing that,  Mike: I'm jealous.  Jessika: Dude. I work nine hours a day. Don't be too jealous. It's those nine hours that get me that day off.  Mike: Oh man. I've been pulling [00:01:00] like 10 to 12 hour days for a couple of months and I'm just,  Jessika: Oh shit. Nevermind. Goodness. Well, the purpose of this podcast is to study comic books in ways that are both fun and informative. We want to look at their coolest, weirdest and silliest moments, as well as examine how they're woven into the larger fabric of pop culture and history. If you'd like to support us, be sure to download rate and review on Apple podcasts or wherever you live.  Mike: Yeah, that really helps with discoverability. We know that we are not a large podcast, but the support that we've gotten from everybody has meant a lot to us. And we're hoping that we can continue to reach more people. If you like, what you're hearing, do us a favor and invite your friends to like our pages, every little bit helps.  Jessika: Yeah, well, today we're continuing on. with the second episode of our book. As we discuss volumes three and four of the Sandman series. But before we jump into [00:02:00] that, Mike, what is one cool thing that you've read or watched lately?  Mike: Something actually that you mentioned on the last book club episode that we did was that there is a Sandman Audible book right now. As much as I don't like giving Amazon my money, if I don't have to, I've had an Audible membership for like a decade. And that means I have access to their Audible originals, which is what this audio book is. And then one of my friends, hi, Darren, also recommended that I listen to the audio book after I told them that we were doing a Sandman book. So I finally downloaded the audio book and started listening while I walked the dogs. And it's legit incredible, like all-star cast. It feels like an audio play complete with like all these incredible production values. Neil Gaiman is serving as the narrator and then they have all of these incredible actors voicing characters and it actually, you know, Neil [00:03:00] Gaiman rewrote it. And so it feels like what he wanted the Sandman, the first volume Preludes and Nocturnes to be, with the hindsight of 30 plus years. Jessika: Nice.  Mike: Yeah, it's great.  Jessika: And he's such a good orator.  Mike: he is he's done a couple of his other audio books that I've listened to over the years. He did The Graveyard Book, which was The only way I can describe it as a Victorian Gothic version of the Jungle Book. And then he also did Coraline. I think he did Coraline. I'm pretty sure he did, but every time that I've listened to him, narrate stuff, it's always been just fantastic,  But, yeah. Jessika: Great.  Mike: How about you? Jessika: Well, I grabbed another $1 image teaser comic. , this time it was Kill or Be Killed by Ed Brubaker. Sean Phillips and Elizabeth Breittwiser. It was okay.  It didn't grow. It followed the first person account of how a man was driven to be an assassin. He basically attempted to die by suicide by jumping off a roof, ended up not dying, but [00:04:00] being visited by what appears to be a demon who tells him , that he now owes him for the life. He tried to waste or something, a life for a life, kind of a such and the rubric for killing being , someone basically like bad and it's not very well defined. So he goes from this guy who can't fathom killing someone to being ready to kill. So he doesn't die. The whole reason he wanted to die was over a woman that chose his roommate over him, by the way, like his best friend. And it was this whole pining love thing. It was just a little just had, really bad incel vibes. You know what I mean?  Mike: Yeah, Jessika: I don't know. It just felt very strange. Like his whole motive was very, contrived it felt,  Mike: Yeah. Brubaker does a lot of good stuff, but he writes a lot of, kind of the modern equivalent of pulp noire.  Jessika: Mm.  Mike: Everything that you've described sounds very much like a Brewbaker story. You got to find the right thing. He writes some really good stuff. Like he's the guy who actually created the winter soldier for the Captain America Comics. Jessika: [00:05:00] Okay.  Mike: Yeah. He did a couple of other kind of like noire-ish stories for image that they were hit or miss for me, but when he's good, he's really good. And then other times it's just, it's not my vibe. Jessika: Okay. That's fair.  Mike: Yeah. Jessika: So, honestly though, again, it was one of those $1 Image teaser situations.  Mike: I love how they do that.  Jessika: I didn't feel like I really lost anything.  Mike: No, I think that's a really great strategy of theirs where it's just kind of the entry-level pilot. Jessika: Yeah, well, let's mosey on to our main topic.  Mike: Yes. Jessika: So last episode, just to recap, we covered an overview of the history and places you can read, watch and listen to the Sandman series. And if you haven't already listened to episode 15, we highly recommend you check out that episode for that. And our discussion on the first two volumes of the Sandman series, because from here, we are going to be discussing [00:06:00] volumes three and four. I don't really have many tidbits per se for us this episode. Really? We're just going to look at the plot and then talk about what we thought.  Mike: I actually have a couple of tidbits. Believe it or not, not many, but a couple. Jessika: Mike has tidbits everyone. I love it. I didn't even know. Well, awesome.  Mike: All right. So should we kick things off?  Jessika: Let's do it. Volume three is titled Dream Country and it was published in 1990 and only included issues 17 through 20. And what made up a four-story anthology. It was, of course, written by Neil Gaiman and illustrated by Kelly Jones, Malcolm Jones III, Charles Vess, and Colleen Duran. We start with the story of Calliope, the youngest Greek muse, who has been imprisoned by Erasmus Fry to be his own personal muse. Super gross. [00:07:00] She'd been captive for closest 60 years. So Erasmus gives Calliope to Richard Maddick, who is a writer who has one successful novel but now has hit a patch of writer's block. And unfortunately for Calliope, he's a greedy motherfucker who only cares about his own success. So he takes Calliope who has been left without clothes in a room alone. And of course, immediately rapes her. This one was really hard for me. You can already tell, as I'm trying to get through this description.  Mike: Yeah, it's an uncomfortable issue to read now. Even now it's, mean, it was really uncomfortable when I first read it when I was, I don't know, 18 or so. And it's just gotten increasingly gross as time goes on, especially now, post me too in the entertainment industry. Jessika: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, definite correlations there.  Mike: Oh yeah. Oddly prescient. Jessika: Yes. So Richard of course gets gains from this whole [00:08:00] situation and enjoys a few years of very good success. He writes more hit novels, some award-winning poetry, and even gets into Hollywood with writing and directing. So here we are again with the correlation situation and of course winning awards in that area. And this is all happening while Morpheus is still in prison, by the way, until he isn't any longer. And one thing we need to know about Calliope is that she and Morpheus have history. In fact, they have a child together. So Calliope calls out to him in desperation. After being told by her visiting muse sisters, that they were unable to help her and help Morpheus did. The author wanted ideas, then he was inundated with them. So many that they were causing him to have an actual breakdown seemingly with psychological effects. In the end, Richard sends someone to release her where he only finds Erasmus Fry's book in the room where she should have been.  Mike: And doesn't it [00:09:00] originally start out with Morpheus trying to free Calliope, but Richard doesn't want to, because he needs the ideas she gives him when he rapes her? Jessika: Yeah Mike: Yeah. And that's when Morpheus sits there and basically punishes him with an overflowing chalice of ideas. Jessika: Yeah. It's, definitely a fitting punishment. In my opinion  Mike: Yeah.  Jessika: story, number two was super fun. I think you and I can probably agree. And this story was about a cat speaking to a crowd of cats in a graveyard. And this cat told the story of having kittens and having them taken away by the people that owned her. And of course, the guy was super level-headed about the whole thing and took the kittens to a shelter and they were adopted by loving families and, oh wait, never mind. He put them all in a bag, tied the bag to a large rock, and threw it in a body of water. I just can't with people. Like, honestly, I can't,  Mike: It's a safe assumption that people are going to be terrible throughout this series. Jessika: I mean, it's true, [00:10:00] but I would love to have them all adopted. So the cat naturally is super upset but also looking for some sort of vengeance or something. And that night she has a dream where she goes on a long and difficult dream quest to see what is ultimately Meowpheus the cat.  Mike: Meowpheus I like that.  Jessika: So basically a Meowpheus tells her that cats used to rule. They were larger and humans were basically the pets. Instead, cats choosing to hunt humans for food and sport and keeping them to feed and groom them. One day, humans banded together and with participation from only 1000 humans, they were able to dream the same dream together and basically manifest humans being the alpha in the world, instead of the cats. And this went back into time where the power of the collective dream actually rewrote history in favor of humans, making the cat subservient. Instead. [00:11:00] The cat in the graveyard was basically preaching a gospel, asking all the cats in the graveyard to dream the same dream. That she was trying to get 1000 cats to help her so that, they could all pull a Cher and turn back time to be in power once again. I enjoyed the partying quippy remark from one of the listener cats, which was effectively good luck getting multiple cats to do anything at the same time. Mike: Uh, yeah. Accurate. Jessika: And while it was really sad and cruel I like the idea that cats have an attitude for a reason.  Mike: Yeah, I thought it was cute. It was just, it was a very, I mean, we'll get into this later on, but it was, I thought it was very. Jessika: Yeah. The third step. Told us, the creation of Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream wherein Morpheus has actually requisitioned the play in specific terms and asks Billy Shakes and his troop to perform in the middle of an empty field. Well, kind of. That field is not empty for a long as [00:12:00] Titania, Oberon, Puck, and all the other characters from the fairy realm have arrived through the portal, which Morpheus opens for them. It's mentioned during the dialogue between Titania and Morpheus, that this is probably the last time the mortal realm would allow them to enter, that they were feeling the hostility from Gaia upon their entry. During the play puck steps in for the actor playing himself and kills of course, and Titania is very strangely fascinated with Billy's 11 year old son Hamnett and is like trying to entice him. And then in the end, everybody, but Puck leaves the realm. And it's mentioned at the end of the issue that Hamnet died later that same year. So like, did Titania finally get Hamlet to go with her?  Mike: You know, it's left a little bit open, but it's playing into that whole idea of the changeling child and, you know, the mortals who go over into the very realm, as children, which I really liked that I thought it was a nice ending that was very bittersweet. Jessika: Yeah. I thought so too. And the fourth and final story [00:13:00] of this volume is called Facade and it is about a woman named Rainey who we learn has been given a gift by the sun, God Ra, which makes her a metamorph. Meaning that she can change her physical appearance, physically change faces, skin, everything. But this also means that she no longer has a normal human appearance. Her skin is scaly and multicolored. Her hair has turned of violent shade of green and her face is withered and her nose is almost completely gone. We find Rainie living a very solitary life, getting a monthly disability check and only interacting with the worker assigned to her, but disability case she's depressed and has suicidal ideations. Probably the scariest part of the story is when an old friend who works for the same company that Rainey was working for, when Ra messed her up, who invites her to lunch, Rainie sucks it up, puts on a face literally and meets [00:14:00] at the restaurant. Where her entire face falls off into a plate of spaghetti. I don't, I don't know about you like that. I thought it was super terrifying. Mike: Yeah. I mean, it goes back to that very human emotion of seeing someone that you haven't seen forever. And you're trying to do as much as you can to make sure that they don't see that you've changed too much.  Jessika: Yeah.  Mike: You and I are at that age now where it's like, people from high school want to get in touch and we're all older. You know, some of us are. And so you see these people and you still want to seem like the person that they knew, because you don't want to, you don't want them to comment on how you've changed. You don't want to acknowledge it. And I read it as she'd been working for like the CIA or an intelligence agency because they call it “The Company.” They don't ever refer to it as anything else. Jessika: I think it was something of that nature kind of checking out sites, et cetera.  Mike: Yeah.[00:15:00] But yeah, and then the whole thing is that because she can change her body into elements. She's, she's a sidekick from the old Moetamorpho series in the sixties. I didn't really know much about her, but I did a little digging cause I couldn't remember a lot. And so Metamorpho is a DC hero who is part of the justice league and his whole thing is that he can't. Basically change his body into any element that he wants. And so that was the whole thing where she's talking about, oh, like it's not hard for me to change the color of my hair. I I just turned it into copper and, and then she basically grows a kind of silica over her face, but she was saying that after roughly a day it gets stiff and, it falls off. And unfortunately, that's what happened with her, at her lunch with her friend. Jessika: Yeah. it was definitely a bummer. Mike: Yeah. Jessika: So of course, Rainey goes home crying where she has to break into her own house by melting the handle because she forgot her purse with her keys and breaks down crying. Death appears having been visiting one of Rainey's neighbors who fell off a stepladder and talks with Rainie, advising that she should [00:16:00] ask rah nicely to take away her gift, or at least giving us an option. She looks into the setting sun and becomes what I'm assuming is a pile of Ash. It looks like death didn't actually take her. So I'm not sure if Rainie is supposed to be just with the world. You know, just one with the world as it kind of seemed like she fear being  Mike: You know, I read it as like she was, she had her immortality taken away from her because she seemed so happy when she turned into, I don't know if it was ash or glass or something. It was kind of hard to tell what the art, and then it cracked and fell apart. And then Death answers the phone and says something along the lines of like, no, she, she can't come she's gone away or something to that effect. And, death isn't this cruel being or anything like that. I think death helped her move on. I'd like to think that she did. Jessika: Okay. Okay. Yeah. it was Fe usually. she like wanders away with the person [00:17:00] she's like low key reaping. Mike: Usually. Yeah. I don't know. I think maybe it was just a little bit, it, it was for the sake of narrative in this case,  Jessika: That's fair. That's fair.  Mike: But yeah. Urania was this, so her full name is Urania She was a side character for a few issues in Metamorpho's sixties series. And then she wound up basically giving herself the same powers that he had, and it was delivered via device called the Orb of RA. So it's really interesting because, Metamorpho is always a science character, because it's all about the elements of what he can turn himself into. But at the same time, there is in his background. is this like, you know, mystical quality to it. And so I liked that they kind of tapped into that mythology a little bit, and really they did a nice job with a character that I think most people had forgotten existed. Jessika: So, Mike, did You have a favorite [00:18:00] character part of the story? What did you dig from this?  Mike: This volume in particular, I really like, because it feels. Like a breather from the main narrative. And honestly, I think that's something that we needed because I mentioned last time, how I always am a little bit surprised at how dark the early stories are. They're very much horror stories with a little bit of fantasy kind of softening the blows a little bit, but there's a couple of moments in those first couple of volumes where I feel like I need to pack a flashlight. it's dark. but yeah, this collection is just, a much-needed change of pace just for a little bit. My least favorite story is the one with the cats. And it's not because I think it's bad. I just don't connect with it that much. Part of it is because we've got a rescue cat, we treat her better than the kids. Let's be honest. I can't fathom throwing kittens into a pond. It was just, it feels a little bit too mustache-twirly. You know, especially in this day and age where like, if people find out [00:19:00] about that you get tracked down on social media and just annihilate it. But it was cute. The whole bit where at the end, it's like, oh, it must be, it's dreaming, you know, it's chasing something and, you're like, oh, okay. Yeah. So it's, it's dreaming of hunting humans. Cool. Jessika: [laughs],  Mike: And it's funny, cause I was actually in a production of Midsummer Night's Dream when I first read this collection. So I loved everything about that specific issue. I loved how it tapped into fairy lore it showed this kind of weird, strange relationship with Titania and Oberon. And how absolutely sinister pock seemed not to mention how there's that dangling plot thread, where he basically gets loosed on earth afterwards  Jessika: mm.  Mike: I don't know. It's just, it's very different than any other portrayal I'd seen up until then. And, , it's interesting because they brought those characters specifically back in a number of different ways across the vertigo comics later on, like to Tanya actually had her origin explained in the Books of Faerie, which was in itself a series that [00:20:00] spun off of another comic that Neil Gaiman wrote called the Books of Magick, where eventually it's revealed that the main character from the Books of Magick, Tim Hunter, who was like the next great magician of the age, he's like our version of Merlin. It is very. They always leave it a little bit up in the air, but Titania''s his mother, because she was a human who was brought into the world of Fairie. And then eventually he got married to Oberon and then she had an affair with a human that was in service to Oberon.  Jessika: Okay.  Mike: She becomes a major part of the lore in her own right. Which I thought was really cool. And Puck shows up again later in the series. I, like I still squirm when I read that story of Calliope, especially where we are like sitting on the other side of me too, and the ongoing flood of stories about successful men in the arts, just being abusive, assholes to those who aren't as powerful as they are. Like when we're recording this, there's a whole flood of stories coming out of Activision [00:21:00] blizzard, if you're not in video games, they make Warcraft and a bunch of other stuff. it turns out that that was a really toxic place for women. And I spent almost a decade working in video games with various companies and yeah, it's not surprising, but it's just, these stories need to be told that at the same time, they're always super uncomfortable to read. Jessika: Yeah.  Mike: Um, yeah. And then, the facade story, I really liked, I really appreciate how gaming does this amazing job spinning out a story that's focused on loneliness and how harmful it is. and then I thought it was kind of neat that it arguably has a happy ending, though the main character dies. Jessika: Yeah. I can see that.  Mike: Same question back at you. What about you? Jessika: So, you know, I really enjoyed the cat story.  Mike: You don't say. Jessika: I did. I mean, I get it though. Like cats are, are super intense and honestly they make [00:22:00] me a little nervous. I heard some horror stories about cats, just going bananas on people and them just like getting super fucked up, like missing part of an ear and shit. Like I've heard some stories. That's just like a regular house cat. Oh, I don't think so  Mike: Well, and then you've met our cat. Jessika: Yeah. Well, yeah. You know that's but I don't, I didn't fear your cat right away. There are some cats I go into someone's house and I'm just like, oh, I got to watch my back.  Mike: We have a dog and a cat's body. Jessika: Yeah. Your cat's sweet.  Mike: No, she... she's fat and lazy and she knows who feeds her. So she's like, I'm good. I don't need to get out. I don't need to be now. Jessika: I'm strictly a dog household, so I just don't really truly get them to be honest with you. And I honestly, I'm kind of glad I have allergies as an excuse, not to have to get one. So did you have a favorite art moment in this volume? Like was there a panel or cover that really stood [00:23:00] out to you or hit you in some kinda way?  Mike: Yeah. That final sequence in the Midsummer issue, so that one was illustrated by Charles Vess and he's this really he's this artist that has this really beautiful illustration style that feels very old school storybook. Sarah loves this British artist named Arthur Rakim and Vess always kind of reminds me of his work, but the closing monologue by Puck is I gotta be at that closing monologue is kind of terrifying, especially with the way that it's illustrated. I also liked how this felt almost like, well, I mean, it was in certain ways, it was a sequel to men of good fortune, that issue that we talked about last time with Hob Gadling and the mortal that keeps on meeting up with Morpheus.  Jessika: Yeah.  Mike: Yeah, you remember during, the last book club episode, how I mentioned that Sandman won the World Fantasy Award. Yeah. So it was for this issue specifically, you know, and then they got all grumpy about it and they [00:24:00] changed it so that you could no longer win a world fantasy award with a comic book. So. The only comic book to ever win a world fantasy award, Jessika: extra salty,  Mike: extra salty. Jessika: Hate to see it.  Mike: what about you? Like, I'm actually curious. What did you think about Vess's illustration style? Because we haven't seen, I don't think we've really seen much of his artwork in the series up until now. Jessika: We haven't, and that's actually this, this was my favorite art volume as well, or art issue as well. I mean, it just, it was beautiful. It used color in a really interesting way that went from playful to dark and serious. I mean, it just with the same type of illustration and the color would just change the whole.  Mike: Yeah. Jessika: Which was super cool just by adding shadows, moving the colors. Plus you got to love a good donkey head and you know, okay. I was musing and you have to go with me on this journey. They had to have used a taxidermied donkey's head. Right.  Mike: [00:25:00] No, they, I  Jessika: Please. Come on, come on, go with me on this journey.  Mike: Ugh no. Hmm.  Jessika: Ah,  Mike: Like, like that's a whole element in that American Horror Story series, like where  they make a mandatory by putting a bull's head on a dude. Like, no, no, Jessika: I am going horror with this one. Mike: Well, have fun going down that road. I'm not there with you. Jessika: Okay. Well, that's good. I suppose we are on volume four  Mike: I suppose  Jessika: Volume Four!. Alright.  Mike: What accent is that? Jessika: I don't know, I do a lot, don't I? Mike: A little bit?  Jessika: I think it's my 1920s.  Mike: Okay.  Jessika: I don't know. It's like my newscaster, I used to have an old-timey newscaster kind of an accent that I did.  And I think I'm combining, I'm combining my Virginia [00:26:00] Montgomery Prescott, the third Esquire.  Mike: It's, that so proper American that it's almost English kinda like that very Northeastern accent.  Yeah.  Jessika: Yes. Yeah.  Mike: Yeah. All right.  Jessika: All right. Volume four is titled season of the mists and came out between 1990 and 1991 and included issues 21 through 28. Story as always was written by Neil Gaiman and illustration was done by Kelly Jones, Malcolm Jones, the third Mike Drigenberg, Matt Wagner, Dick Giordano, George Pratt, and P Craig Russell. Volume four begins with our introduction to destiny. Ooh. While wandering his realm is visited by the fates, the three sisters that we have seen previously, the sisters inform him that he needs to call a [00:27:00] reunion of all his siblings of the eternal realm. So off, he goes to the family gallery where he goes up to each portrait of his sibling and they appear out of the portrait. When summoned the siblings are a mix of characters we have seen. And one that is new to this issue. Death who is told to change her outfit, even though no one else was, I thought that was kind of rude.  Mike: Yeah, Destiny's a stickler for formality. Jessika: Yeah. Well, the other one's got to wear nimble to CWA. They got to wear whatever  Mike: Hmm. Jessika: I, whatever. I don't know. It makes me angry. So don't tell women they have to change. They are not a distraction. Death has followed by Dream and then the twins, Desire and Despair, and lastly Delirium who we come to find out, used to be Delight. So during their reunion, desire calls out Dream's treatment of lovers who have spurned [00:28:00] him, leading him to ask for validation of his actions from Death. And Death instead agrees with. Prompting dream to plan, to travel to hell in order to remove queen nada from her torturous captivity, who was, that was the subject of their whole conversation.  Mike: Yeah. And we actually saw that whole story in the previous volume to  Jessika: Yes,  Mike: saw what happened to. Jessika: exactly. so destiny closes out the reunion basically stating that the actions that needed to be put into motion had been accomplished by dream deciding to go back to. hell.  Mike: Yeah. Jessika: The next issue gives us a taste of what hell looks and feels like. So back in the dream realm, Dream is saying his goodbyes and makes a big announcement to those living in his realm. He tells them about Nada, how he had been unjust and how he had to rectify his actions and that he may not return as he is not on good terms with Lucifer. So [00:29:00] he sends Cain to Hell as a messenger to let loose for know that dream will be visiting whether he approves or not basically. So that was fun.  Mike: Well, he knows that he can't kill Cain because Cain is protected by the mark of Cain from, the Cain and Abel story. He knows about that.  Jessika: oh yeah. Yeah, for sure.  Mike: That's why dream sent Cain it's because he knows that Cain can't be killed. Jessika: Exactly. Exactly. Lucifer clearly is still really salty about being embarrassed. The last time dream was there and he makes an announcement to his, his demonic minions reminding them that he is the oldest and strongest bad-ass lets them know that dream will be returning and implies very strongly. That the day that Dream returns will be very memorable. Kane delivers the response to Dream. And on the last stop of his farewell tour, Dream also visits Hippolyta whose husband [00:30:00] was the pho dream king superhero thingy from one of the other stories while he was enslaved or, you know, captive.  Mike: Yeah. she and Hector the previous Doctor Fate were being used by Brute and Glob to basically create kind of like an island for them to operate outside of the dreaming the dreams of a kid who was being abused.  Jessika: Exactly.  Mike: And then, Dream is on her shit list because he sent her ghost of a husband on to wherever he got sent onto, but she was pregnant at the time. And so there's a connection between Dream and the baby because she carried the baby to term mostly in dreams, Jessika: Well, the baby was in gestation for like that, like 30, 30, 40 years or something more than that. I mean, it was like 60 years? I don't  remember how many it was like however long or  Mike: I,  Jessika: or was it just the kid timeframe? Mike: I think it was just the kid timeframe. So I think it was only for a couple of years, but still it was in gestation injuries for a long time compared to. Jessika: Oh, I can't even imagine [00:31:00] being pregnant once, let alone for like two years straight. Holy crap. And she was like really pregnant. That's not comfortable.  So Morpheus advises Hippolyta to take good care of the kid that had been gestating in the dream realm, because he will take it someday. So. Cool. Thanks, Dream. That's awesome.  Mike: Really endearing us to you, buddy. Jessika: Yeah. serious. Oh, he also gives her the name Daniels because she had kind of been struggling with a name for him.  Mike: Yeah.  Jessika: So that's the kid's name now? I guess. So Dream makes his way to hell anticipating a fight with Lucifer, but what He finds is an eerily empty hell with Lucifer in the process of locking all the gates. And when asked about this loose advises that he's, he's done, he's quitting and he is no longer the ruler of hell. He's freed everyone and everything that was locked up. And he's not really sure what happened to them or where they all went, whether it was to earth or other realms or what, but he just [00:32:00] knows they're no longer in hell Mike: Yeah. He likes straight up. Does not care.  Jessika: Oh, zero fucks. None.  Mike: They're his favorite kind of problem. Not his. Jessika: Then he goes, Yeah. think I'm bluffing. Hey, here's a knife. Why don't you cut off my wings? Just see, just, just go ahead and see. And, and Dream does. And then as a parting gift, he hands the key to hell Dream stating basically Like Hey, this is your problem now. Mike: Yeah.  Jessika: that's some high-level trolling.  Mike: Dream was prepared for just about every outcome except that one. It is. Jessika: Exactly. We are then introduced to Oden who travels to the cavern where Loki is being held captive and has been enduring an eternity of torture until Ragnarok, the end times in which the Asgardian realms would be destroyed. Odin [00:33:00] frees low-key from his situation and asks him to help him as he wants to take over the Hell situation since Lucifer abdicated and Loki agrees to help, then we cut back to dream because he's not really sure what to do. So he calls on his sister death for advice. And she has like, no time. First of all, she has no time for him in that issue. She's like, what do you need? I'm super busy. She pretty much says, this is your problem. Also, he knows things are going to go down and he hides, frustrated his castle basically. And then he just starts getting visited by all these different parties, all wanting the keys to hell. So you have the Asgardians, Azazzle and a demon Envoy who're like “That's my house. I just want to live in my house again.” Mike: Yeah.  Jessika: Yeah. Anubis and Bastet who are like, yo, [00:34:00] you know, who does a good job with death with underworlds let me show you.  Mike: it's a really eclectic mix of mythological figures because you also have. The Lords of chaos and order send their envoys, Shivering Jemmy from the Lords of chaos who... I really like her. I think she's a great,  Jessika: did too.  Mike: and then the Lords of order send their representative and it's a cardboard box that basically spits out ticker tape  and  Jessika: Which  Mike: And, then you get the elves, a ferry at one point. And they have, a really unique proposition, which is that the lands of Faerie had a tie to hell where every seven years they had to send over a certain number of , their best and brightest as a sacrifice. And they wanted, basically begging dream, not to let hell reopen. Jessika: And we did. We establish that That was still a thing when all the other shit went down.  Mike: That specific deal? Jessika: yeah.  Mike: Oh yeah. It's still a deal. And actually, that was a whole thing in the books of [00:35:00] magic. They have a whole thing with ferry and hell going into conflict with each other, because I think it has been almost 20 years since I read this last. But if I remember right, it was, I think Faerie refused to pay the tithe anymore anymore. And as a result, they basically straight up, went to war with hell. and it was, oh man, it was cool. I remember liking that storyline. I don't remember it enough to really talk about it a lot though, because it's  been so long.  But it's, it's good. It's in one of the collected volumes of the Books of Magick that they did, they only collected the first 50 issues, 50 through 75 aren't collected anywhere. Jessika: Hmm.  Hmm. So we also had Suzan O No Mikto  Mike: Yes.  Jessika: Oh, and a couple of angels who were there just to be voyeurs to the situation  Mike: Yeah. Jessika: and Dream finally lets them into the castle. [00:36:00] After he stopped sulking and he advises that he'll be hosting a banquet and having accommodation set up and they could discuss the key to the realm the next day, basically. And we start seeing the consequences of hell's release through a boys boarding school where one solitary boy is staying over during the holidays while his father, as a prisoner of war in Kuwait  and all hell returns. When boys and staff who used to attend the school, start to show back up  Mike: yeah. Jessika: Along with the headmasters previously deceased mother.  Mike: Yes. It's... that issue. It's really interesting because I really didn't like it originally. And I've come to appreciate it more because it feels like a very Gothic or story kind of like the Hunting of Hill House from Netflix.  Jessika: I can see that. Yeah.  Mike: yeah.  Jessika:  It was wild.  Like all of them had reasons that they were in hell.  Mike: Yeah. That [00:37:00] issue is really interesting and it's really weird because it's drawn by Matt Wagner, who has a very interesting style. All of his own Wagner himself is famous for creating a couple of different characters on his own. Like he created a character called the Grendel, who is this assassin and wound up becoming a cult property, had a long run with Dark Horse, if I remember right. But this story in season at the mist is really creepy because the whole thing is that the dead are coming back to earth and all sorts of unexpected ways. And then there were a bunch of boys who were really awful, Who come back and they start tormenting Charles, because he's the only living soul there. And he's also, you know, he's a sweet, sensitive little kid, like who is just an easy target for people like that. And the thing is, is like, that was me when I was at that age was I was that sensitive kid who was just an easy target for bullies. And so it was really hard to read it when I was younger. And, I've got a little different perspective now, [00:38:00] but it's, still tough. Anyway, go on. Jessika: Oh, that's okay. So yeah, Charles, unfortunately, he got tortured by that trio of boys. And apparently those boys had murdered another school boy as an offering to Lucifer. So joke's on them, the offering didn't save them from the torture of damnation,  Mike: Yeah. Jessika: so Charles ends up being physically tortured and then starves to death. And his only companion was that other boy who had been killed on the premises that boy, that, those,  that trio allegedly sacrificed. Edwin. Yeah. So death rolls up to pick them up and Charles says “Yeah, no thanks. I'm gonna hang out with, uh, Edwin and deaths. Like you don't, I don't, I don't have time for this. Like literally every one is coming back. Like I literally don't have time. I will come back for you.  Mike: I loved that she was in early nineties, jogging paraphernalia, like  Jessika: Yeah.  Mike: I thought it was fantastic. Jessika: was ready for it.  Mike: [00:39:00] I may be misremembering this, but I thought it was really funny how it was like, I think it was like pink and purple too. Like it was very colored. Jessika: I think it did have some color to it.  Yeah. Oh, funny. So back in the dream realm, two more guests from the theory realm, those two that we had talked about, they arrive and the banquet in. And each of the guests eats and drinks, their desire delicacies, cause , poof we're in dreamland and shenanigans ensued due to the differences of the attendees. And one by one, they basically corner Morpheus requesting a private conversation and he provides each of them with a signal stadium that he'll meet with them after the banquet and entertainment have concluded Cain and Abel show up as the entertainment we're able dies,by being cut in half and then being made into sausage in a magic act  Mike: which. That is a, that is a recurring theme with Cain and Abel in, in the Sandman comics.  Jessika: Yeah, I've noticed.  Mike: But, [00:40:00] Cain was the host of another horror series called the house of misery. And he always had this kind of macabre sort of sense of humor. I know Abel eventually showed up in the house mystery series. I don't know if Cain murdered him every time. I wouldn't be surprised. Jessika: Fair enough. So this is this tracks apparently, each of the guests go off to their respective quarters to wait to be summoned. And they each go to Morpheus, either offering something they think he would want or threatening him in order to turn over control the key to hell. And he advises each one of them that he will announce his decision in the morning. And once in the privacy of his own quarters, he ruminates on the pressure of the weight of his responsibility that was dropped on him.  Mike: Yeah. What was your favorite bargaining tactic? I've got mine. I'm curious about yours. Jessika: I didn't like the whole trading people thing. I don't know. Cause they were all so good in different ways. Like order and chaos were both really interesting to me. I think chaos just being like, [00:41:00] we will find you  Mike: Chaos was my favorite Jessika:  I was going to say like, but Shivering Jemmy was just so funny to begin with.  Mike: Well,  Jessika: was just such an interesting.  Mike: you know, they play, they play with this a lot because, Dr. Fait is one of the Lords of order, DC comic books. And so there's always been this presentation that, order is, the right way to go. And what I kind of enjoyed is that this very much embodies, no order is a dull little box in chaos is chaos. It's not what you expect. And so they send this, hobo girl with a red balloon and  Jessika: like, uh, like a clown face.  Mike: yeah, and she's like, speeding. Almost like toddler English, like it's much younger phrasing than you would expect from a kid who looks like they're 10 or 11. And then, turns into this monstrous thing, delivering ungodly threats to the Lord of dreams. And then, you know, it turns back into the little kid again, after when it was like,[00:42:00] byeeeee. Yeah, I can get behind this. Jessika: So good. She just ate ice cream for dinner too, which I loved.  Mike: Oh yeah. It was so good. I, again, I think she shows up in the books of magic later on, but I can't remember for that one. Jessika: That's amazing. So I really did like her as a character.  Mike: it was good. Jessika: So the next morning. As Morpheus, still struggles to decide to whom he will grant the key. He is visited by the voyeur angels who tell him they have a message for him from the creator who dictates that the two angels will now run hell and guess what guys, you're not allowed back to the silver city Remiel. Oh, Remiel was not happy about this situation. He did not take this well.  Mike: No, he did not it was very much implied that he was about to rebel, like Lucifer. Jessika: Yup. He's like fuck the shit. [00:43:00] Why do I have to go down there? And he had that. He was like, this is your fault. I was like, whoa, damn, you need to go calm down. Your silent homie is not the enemy. there was some salt. This issue.  So Morpheus hands over the key after Remiel takes a chill pill and Morpheus still has the task of telling the other as the outcome of his decision and lets them know the decision was really made for him that if the creator of hell wanted angels to run it, who was he to decide differently from what the creator of that thing wanted to do with it. And most of his guests took this. Okay. I liked orders response of this? This is logical.  Mike: Yeah. And then chaos is like, man, it's fine. We just didn't want order to get it. It's fine. Whatever. Jessika: Exactly.  Mike: And then  Jessika: was even better.  Mike: doesn't she give Morpheus her balloon afterwards?  Jessika: Yeah.  Mike: Yeah, I thought that was great Jessika: She's like, oh, well,  I didn't really want this anyway. [00:44:00] but Azazel was especially upset about this whole situation  Mike: Embodiment of bitter party of one. Jessika: Yes. yes. Table for one. Absolutely. And he pretty much said that he was going to consume the souls of Nada as well as his companions from hell, because he had actually kidnapped her.  Mike: Yeah, and we should note that one of his companions from hell was actually, the demon who had Morpheus's helm before. it was a honied offer of him sitting there and saying, well, I will give you the woman that you're searching for, but then I'll also let you enact punishment of this guy who challenged you and to make you look bad in front of all of hell. Jessika: That makes sense. I was kind of wondering why he was like, why would he care about this one, dude? But that makes way more sense. I forgot about that, dude.  Mike: Yep.  Jessika: There's a lot. There's a lot to remember in this.  Mike: You know, I can't remember everything and I've read this series multiple times. It's a dense story. And I always feel like. I probably caught things before, but, I always [00:45:00] find things that I feel like I'm discovering for the first time with each reread. Jessika: Oh, that's so cool. I'm so glad I picked up the trade paperbacks.  Mike: Yeah. I'm glad that you, I'm glad you're spearheading this. This is a really fun series to talk about. Jessika: Thank you. So Azazel tells Morpheus, basically, I'm going to consume the souls of Nada and my other companion, unless Morpheus could jump into the abyss of space of teeth,  the abyss of his Azazel's teeth, which he's just like space with teeth. Like that's what he is.  Mike: And eyes.. Jessika: And eyes. Yeah, that's right. He does have eyes too, but he's just like a bunch of Maltz mostly. Yeah. So Morpheus does it. He does the thing and jumps in, finds them, captures his Azazel  after he tries to go back on his word of letting them go. If he'd have found his company. And then asks his Raven friend, Matthew, to tell Nada that he needs to talk with her because he has some apologizing to do,  Mike: Mm Jessika: The inhabitants of hell [00:46:00] begun to return as the new angel leaders look on and dream meets with nada and makes a pitiful attempt at half-apology and Nada slaps him and in doing so extracts an actual apology, which it shouldn't take that much. But Dream seems to realize how he's in the wrong.  Although he almost immediately negates that understanding by once again, asking her to be the queen of the dream realm.  Mike: Yeah.  Jessika: Bro. She was, and she was like, bro, we've done this already. I don't want to do this. I already said no to you once. And  I meant it.  Mike: I really appreciate that gaming does not make dream this infallible being, he very much shows like, no, he is. A flawed dude  Jessika: Yeah.  Mike: and he doesn't always get things immediately. Jessika: Yeah, That was really interesting. [00:47:00] That piece of it, I mean, dream has to concede, but he he basically says, let's go discuss your future.  Mike: yeah,  Jessika: Which is really neat, cause he's taken her whole life away and, and then some, and he's in a, he's a negative said this blank she's for thousands of years been tortured in hell. Like how do you even make that up?  Mike: Exactly. And that was actually something that I was curious about the first time I read it, I'm like, how do you make this right? cause that's, that is so much red in the ledger. Jessika: That's What I was thinking too. It's like, oh, okay, well, what are you going to do now, dude, aspire flowers and be like, well, babe,  Mike: What about you chocolates? I only ate half of them. Jessika: right? It's Valentine's day it's. This is what we do. Right. So, so Loki who was supposed to have been taken back to his cave of acid dripping wonder  Mike: His torture cave, Jessika: his torture cave with a snake and a woman. And torture.  Mike: where he is [00:48:00] bound in the entrails of his own son and his wife catches venom dripped from a snake's fang. And then occasionally when she empties the cup, that's catching the phenom. It causes him to shake the earth and agony. And that's why we get earthquakes. Norse mythology is a thing.  Jessika: Yes. And so Loki though has switched places, the little trickster he is with Suzano No-Ol-Mikoto who was sent back to the cavern to be forever tortured, which is rough. He didn't do anything. And then he tries to cut a deal with dream, to not get them sent back.  Mike: he, he does like, he actually cuts a deal with him. Jessika: I mean, he does cut a deal He does, which. Guy, are you at least get a, go get the other homie from the blade? He doesn't, he doesn't even go other homes. Mike: yeah, he does  Jessika: like he does.  Mike: Yeah, he does. He says what I'll do is, as I will, I will basically create , an illusion of you in that tormented space.  Jessika: Okay. I must have missed that part because I  was just like guy. [00:49:00]  Mike: it's a throwaway line. It's he basically sits there and he says like, but if I do that, you owe me a favor.  Jessika: Okay. I mean, I got that part of it. I was like, you're getting out of this, but like, whoa,  Mike: I have a lot of favorite moments in this, in this volume, but that was one of my favorites where dream asks him and he's like, why did you choose Susano No O Mikoto, but Loki basically just says, yeah, I just really don't like thunder gods. And I was like,  Jessika: Which all  Mike: also I love how much of just a turd Thor is throughout the entire time that he appears he's such a gross dude.  Like there's  Jessika: gross.  Mike: the bit where he's trying to hit on bass and he's like, do you want to touch my hammer? It gets bigger when you play with it. I'm like, blech Jessika: it was so bad. And that he's just trashed. He's just like,Ugh.  Mike: Well, I think bast actually scratches up his face too, which I thought was great.  Jessika: Yup. Yup. Mike: but it's funny because I read this in the nineties, give or take my only exposure to Thor in comic [00:50:00] books before that had been Thor, the superhero, and this was such a wildly different take on him. I was like, this is amazing cause Thor was awful and mythology. Jessika: Yeah. Oh Yeah. there were definitely some, questionable stories that I have read. Yes.  Mike: Anyway, I really enjoyed that.  Jessika: yeah. So we also find out that Nuala that was one of the two ferries is being left in the dream realm, even though the ferry deal was not the one that panned out her bros, just like, see ya. I, I wasn't ever supposed to bring you back. You're staying regardless.  Mike: Yeah. You're, a gift from the court to dream.  Jessika: Which, and he's just like, okay. And he's like, oh, by the way, I don't dig glamour here. So you can just drop the glitz. You're glimmering right now. And then she's just this little petite, mousy hair, smaller elf looking, which, you know what I did not, I didn't like the whole idea that, she had to be, [00:51:00] that,  That she felt like she had to glamour to begin with. And that, that was a whole thing.  Mike: I don't know what part of mythology it is, but, but one of the European pieces of mythology is that the elves have an ability to wrap themselves in illusion. in that they're actually these kinds of weird, gross little things. So that, that was tying into kind of the European folklore. But yeah, it's a thing. I don't remember if she shows up in later issues. I think she does, but I don't remember. Jessika: I mean, that would suck to just be like, by the way you live in the dream realm now oh and we're never featuring you again. Double rough.  Mike: yeah,  Jessika: Yeah. So after dream is like, nah, you gotta be you, boo. He goes and puts not a soul into a newborn child basically. So it's assumed that she will get to live the life that dream took from her so many centuries ago.  Mike: Yeah. He basically, he, he gives her the opportunity to live life again, kind of wiping the slate clean, which is, mean, let's be honest. That's probably the best offer that [00:52:00] he can give her. Jessika: He also puts her in a male body, which like, talk about like leveling up,  Mike: Yeah.  Jessika: Come on. You're already doing better. Mike: Yeah. And then he has that really nice moment where he says something along the lines of I will remember you and love you matter what body wear. And you will always be welcome in the dream realm. I have my quibbles with, with Dream, especially with this whole storyline. But I feel like that was arguably the best solution he could have come up with. Jessika: Oh I agree. Yeah, when I did see that, that was the solution. I mean, you can't provide somebody with multiple lifetimes, but you can take away the pain of knowing that that happened and provide them with a new life that you don't interfere with. I thought it was a good, a good deal. I guess. All things considered.  Mike: Yeah. Jessika: We then cut to Lucifer, wingless, chilling on a beach, looking at the sunset where he is approached by an older man who walks [00:53:00] over and make small, talk about the sunset with him and stay till, see him tomorrow. If he's still there and Lucifer admitting that the sunset is actually really beautiful, goddammit and giving some credit to the creator. And we end the volume with the two new leaders of hell going around and making quote unquote changes  Mike: yeah. Jessika: the way things are. Basically, they're still going to be torture, but it's supposed to be phrased differently as a rehabilitation, but the angels don't quite understand the meaning of the tortures of hell, which makes it even worse.  Mike: Yeah. It's so uncomfortably abusive where they're like, no, we're doing this because we love you. And one day you'll thank us for it. Jessika: Yeah.  Mike: you're just like, woo.  Jessika: It's it was a gross abuser situation.  Mike: Yeah. And then there's that bit where one of the souls is like, no, you don't understand that makes it worse. Jessika: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Oh Yeah. And unfortunately the angels start to embrace their [00:54:00] roles in the endless pain and suffering.  Mike: Yeah. And that's actually, that's something that is, brought back to the forefront in Lucifer, the series that Mike Carey wrote in the late nineties to early odds, which I've talked about this before, but like that series is also, I think just as good as Sandman. It's really great, we also see a lot of pantheons of different gods getting pulled into Lucifer's machinations and there's a whole thing where he makes things difficult for the angels running hell. Jessika: Oh, I'm excited to see it  Mike: It's very good. Jessika: Well what were your overall impressions of the story and who were your favorite or least favorite characters or events of this?  Mike: It's actually hard to sit there and talk about just a couple of favorite moments because I really love this collection. I loved it when I first read it. I still love it. I love the strange sadness of the overall story and the original takes on the gods. And also, I really love the twist that heaven takes over [00:55:00] the running of hell. We talked about how I really enjoyed Dream kind of, spoiling the plot twist about Loki, having switched places with Susano. And, I really soured on Dream as a character in these early issues over time. I dunno it, like, when I read this as a kid, I was like, oh, okay. He feels bad about his actions. And is going to rescue this woman that he loves from hell and now I'm like, motherfucker, you put her in hell. And she details how awful her time there was like, come on, dude, you condemned her there for millennia just because she wouldn't marry you?Like, get fucked. Jessika: And then you said, I guess I did something bad if that's how you feel.  Mike: it wasn't even, you didn't even come to this realization  on your own. You had to be told by multiple people that you fucked up. Like a mediocre white guy in his thirties, you sat there and dug your heels and went no, no. Well,  maybe Jessika: “I don't think that's right.”  Mike: maybe. All right, fine. [00:56:00] It's like, whatever, Jessika: Oh, no.  Mike: like that. I'm coming down harsher on dream than you are. Jessika: No, but that's how I felt about it too. I mean, you're just doing all the work. I'm just going to sit back and ride this ride because I'm like, I'm there with you, but I'm like passenger seat. I'm chilling. Like I don't need to be the navigator. We have maps now we have Google maps. It's fine.  Mike: I'm sitting there swinging my arms and getting all mad and getting the cardio. Jessika: Oh yeah. And I'm doing the pumping our movement of the trucks next to me. You know, I'm just along for this ride. No, I agree. He's a shit heel and a lot of these, and I'm like, I have had more than a few moments where I think to myself, how am I supposed to feel about this character? But then I think to myself, no, that's a good character. But then I think to myself, no: That's a good character. That's a good character, because that means it's complex. It's more realistic because that's what people.  Mike: Yeah. To be honest, he is that privileged male character who has never had to really stop and think about his [00:57:00] actions really not have things go his way.  And we are now at the part of tonight's program where we are finding out after having fucked around for a while. Jessika: Fucked around so hard. So Well, I really enjoyed the banquet and I really liked the different interactions between the different mythologies and how they behaved and what they ate. And it was really funny, but I also thought it was very thoughtful. In the way that it was done. And similarly with the way that each party had a different way and signal to meet with dream, it just really showed his understanding and empathy by adapting to each of his guests needs.  Mike: Yeah.  Jessika: Or perhaps he's just used to doing this for each individual's dreams.  Mike: Well, it's a little bit open to interpretation because in other episodes you see his appearance changed. Like there was, you know, he was Meowpheus. Jessika: Yep.  Mike: So my take on him is that his appearance. Doesn't change. It's just, we [00:58:00] perceive them in different ways. And because we are, you know, people reading the story, we are seeing him in his siblings manifest as people.  Jessika: That's very astute, sir.  Mike: But yeah, I mean, like you looked at like the different art styles that came into play when he was meeting with the different gods. And I mean, I, I still think about how doesn' het have like a tea ceremony with Suzano when they're, when they're talking. And then I feel like it's much darker and moodier when he meets with Odin. And then again, the art style changes again when he meets with Bast.  Jessika: Yeah. Well, speaking of art, did you, did you have a favorite art moment in this volume?  Mike: Yeah. okay. So you remember how last time we talked about how I have this, one defining moment where in Men of Good Fortune hob has these three panels where his face changes?  Yeah. There's a couple of different images throughout the series that I always just kind of have pop up in my head when I think about it. And one of them is from this volume and it's the bit where he's inside a Zazzle and [00:59:00] he's like prying open the mouse and the empty space and he's floating around it feels kind of more traditionally action comic booky, and the way that it's drawn, that's not a bad thing. It's just, for some reason it feels that way. And I, I think it's really good. and I also really liked how at the end of it, he reveals that he is trapped. Azazel in a jar. It's very in keeping with how Gaiman would resolve conflict in ways that could be a giant battle, but instead they're very clever. , it was like when they had the battle between him and Dr.Destiny, and then afterwards you get the field of white and then it turns out he's just sitting in the Palm of dream's hand. Jessika: Yes. Yeah.  Mike: Yeah.  Jessika: So good.  Mike: I'm curious, you're approaching this with fresh eyes because this is the first time you've read through this. So I'm wondering, do you have the same moments or are they different? Jessika: I actually thought Morpheus had a lot of really good billowing robe moments.  Mike: Yes. Jessika: Like, I mean, they didn't have, I think they may have had like one semi-full page of like a billowy robes situation. But there were quite a few shots of him, like floating into [01:00:00] hell and he was just making an entrance  Mike: yeah. I was just thinking that Jessika: here for it. Yeah.  Mike: he's got his helm  Jessika: Yeah.  Mike: the bit where  Jessika: dressed up. This is the met gala. He is here.  Mike: Yes. And then what I really liked about that was there's that moment where Lucifer is like, are you afraid of me? And more visas? Like, yes. And I'm like, all right. Not, your difficult comic book. All right. Cool. Jessika: Just being real between you and I. Absolutely.  Mike: That was great. Jessika: Yeah. So I really like, again, to your point about what you really enjoyed was the kind of feeling of movement of probably him floating through space and having that action feeling. That's what I really liked about the billowy ropes. Was it just, I could almost see them moving,  and I could feel the movement of him floating down, which was so neat. Yeah. Well, let's move along to our brain wrinkles. [01:01:00]  Mike: All right. Jessika: So this is the one thing comics or comic-related. That has just been sticking in our noggin since the last time we spoke. So, what is it for you?  Mike: Well, Sarah and I had our anniversary this week, and she got me this really cool book called American Comic Book Chronicles, the 1990s by Jason Sachs and Keith Dallas. Do you remember those American century books from time life? They were those prestige format  photo history books, and they would document major moments in America and world history from across the 20th. Jessika: I do. Yup.  Mike: I feel like every school library had a complete volume.  Jessika: Exactly.  Mike: So this is like that except for Comics. And so it's really cool. And nobody should be surprised at this point to hear that I particularly love comics from the eighties and nineties. And as I'm reading through this book, it's reminding me about how absolutely insane the early nineties were when it came to the comic book industry and [01:02:00] also just comic collecting in general. So I think we're going to have to do an episode where we talk about something related to that topic sooner or later, probably sooner. it has been rattling around my head for the past couple of days where I just reread I've read the stuff that some of it, I knew some of it I didn't and all of it's insane. Jessika: well, let's definitely talk sooner rather than later, because let's go back to childhood.  Mike: All right. You talked me into it. We're going to do a nineties episode at some point. It's fine. FINE! Jessika: Twisted his arm. There's no violence on this podcast. I'm a pacifist. God dammit.  Mike: Uh, but yeah, that's me. What about you? Jessika: Well, Mike, you told me about the podcast Bitches on Comics, which, okay. I'm not going to lie to you. I've binged the first 45 episodes since you told me about it less than a week ago, you haven't, it hasn't been a week.  Mike: I can't remember. I know it's been about a week. [01:03:00] I really like that show. Jessika: It's been about a week. Okay. It's so good. And they have their, I mean, they're very queer, which are, you know, a hundred percent I'm here for, and I got to tell you, they,  Mike: Like more queer fans of comic books. Oh, no. Jessika: Oh, no. Well, and they have this thing in there where they're. There aren't a lot of queer podcasts about comic books and I'm like, wait, we're here now, here we are. Pick us.  Mike: Yeah, exactly. I'm like, oh, can we come talk to, you want to have us on, or do you want to come on our show? Like, whatever you want to talk about, it's fine.  Jessika: I, will awkwardly approach them with my bag lunch and ask if I can sit with them.  Mike: Oh, a hundred percent. Yeah. They're great. their Mojo episode, I thought was really interesting and I wound up tweeting with them for a little while because they pointed out that there really aren't many characters like mojo. And I think I made a good point with him. I mentioned how Superman's bill and Mr. Mxyzptlk might be another equivalent character[01:04:00] where he's all about throwing shit up in the air and, disrupting everything but no, they, they were great. Jessika: So good. Well, they, in episode three, they introduced me to the novel, the refrigerator monologues, which delves into the, the idea of women in comics being fridged or killed just for entertainment sake, or to drive a plot narrative, or to make the, the main hero sad, or, basically as a plot tool and the refrigerator monologues delves into it as first-person accounts of female superheroes and how they had been used. And I went and listened to it because you can find it. I kept it on hooplah actually. So I listened to it for free and it was an audiobook.  It was very, very good. And he talked about them not having autonomy or storylines of their own. it got me thinking about the way that we write characters and who we are allowed to succeed in [01:05:00] any given situation. I don't know, I just, I highly recommend this book and I highly recommend listening to Bitches on Comics because they have got me just like thinking about shit.  Mike: Yeah, you and I should talk about a Hawk and Dove from DC in the 1980s and how they just did the most egregious fringing of Dove in a 1991 crossover in a way that was really bad. it's one of those things where I still talk about it. I've been talking about it for 20 years because it's so wild. Jessika: Man. Well.I guess we'll have a really uplifting conversation about that later. I'm sure I'm going to have no zero opinions about that.  Mike: No. Jessika: I tell you, I commit now. No opinions. I can't commit to that. Everyone knows I'm

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The outsiders of podcasting are back to poach another of Jason's guests. This time it's "Hacksaw" Matt Wittman from The Batshit State! Hear! Us review Lost Rhetoric episode 006 from July 23, 2020.Hear! Matt confront the Proud Boys.Hear! Matt eviscerate Jason's excuses for going on hiatus. Hear! Matt get robbed in Brooklyn. Hear! The herbstomp.com Top 5 cities that listened to us.Hear! Mike buy Captain America Comics #1.Hear! Top 5 things we listened to this past week. Hear! Mike report on the Olympics and Chicken in a Biskit.LINKS:LOST RHETORIC:https://lostrhetoric.buzzsprout.com/LOST RHETORIC TWITTER:https://twitter.com/Lost_RhetoricLOST RHETORIC INSTAGRAM:https://www.instagram.com/lostrhetoricpodcast/?hl=enPOST RHETORIC TWITTER:https://twitter.com/Post_RhetoricPOST RHETORIC FACEBOOK:https://www.facebook.com/postrhetoricpodcastPOST RHETORIC INSTAGRAM:https://www.instagram.com/postrhetoricpodcast/HERB STOMP:https://www.herbstomp.com/THE GREEN SUNSHINE COMPANY:https://thegreensunshineco.com/ CHECK OUT MATT'S PODCAST THE BATSHIT STATE:https://open.spotify.com/show/31mRXbvlqsT51mbvIUfx1Z CHECK OUT WREATH:https://wreathfl.bandcamp.com/album/s-t-ep

What If Captain America Were Elected President?What If Volume 1, Issue 26 (April 1981)Earth-81426Reading list:Captain America Comics #1 (1941)Captain America Comic #7 (1941)Avengers #4 (1961)Tales of Suspense #66 (1965)Tales of Suspense #79 (1967)Captain America #176-180 (1974)Captain America #250 (1980)What If #26 (1981)Amazing Spider-Man #537 (2007)Siege #4 (2010)Captain America: Steve Rogers #17 (2017)Email Podcast@DearWatchers.comTwitter @DearWatchersAmazing logo is original art by @ElliotComicArtTheme music is Space Heroes by MaxKoMusic Music promoted by https://www.free-stock-music.comCreative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported ★ Support this podcast ★

Falcon and Winter Solider may have ended but there are still plenty of great comics to read. The question is where to start? That's where this video comes in. Let's break down some perfect starting points for Captain America and all the different versions throughout Marvel's history.Time Stamps:01:17​ - Truth- Red, White, and Black03:09​ - Captain America: White05:25​ - Captain America: Patriot08:06​ - Captain America: Man Out of Time10:16​ - Captain America: Mad Bomb11:28​ - Marvel Snapshots: Captain America12:00​- Captain America: 'Dust"13:59​ - Captain America: Dead Man Running 15:30​ - Captain America: The Chosen 17:35​ - U.S. Agent/John Walker18:50​ - All-New Captain America20:09​ - Captain America: Sam Wilson21:25​ - Falcon and the Winter Solider22:40​ - Captain America: Winter Solider Truth: Red, White, and Black Author: Robert MoralesIllustrator: Kyle BakerCaptain America: White Writer: Jeph LoebArtist: Tim SaleCaptain America: Patriot (2010)Writer: Karl KeselArtist: Mitch BreitweiserCaptain America; Man Out of Time:Writer: Mark WaitArtist: Jorge Molina, Bryan Hitch Captain America: Mad BombIssues 193-200Writer/Artist: Jack KirbyCaptain America; Snapshot 2020Writer: Mark RussellArtist: Ramon K. PerezCaptain America: Dust (2003)Writer: John Ney RieberArtist: John CassadayCaptain America: Dead Men Running Writer: Darko MacanArtist: Erek HessCaptain America: The ChosenWriter: David MorrellPenciler: Mitch Breitweiser US Agent:Captain America #323​Writer: Mark GruenwaldPenciler: Paul Neary Captain America #354​U.S. Agent 2020 Writer: Christopher PriestArtist: Geroges Jeanty Falcon as Cap: All-New Captain America #1Writer: Rick RemenderArtist: Stuart ImmonenCaptain America: Sam WilsonWriter: Nick SpencerArtist: Daniel AcunaFalcon and Winter Solider 2020 Writer: Derek LandyPenciler Daniel Mora Captain America:Winter SoliderWriter: Ed BrubakerArtist: Steve Epting

This week, we learn about the history behind the ever-evolving Captain America Comics! Amanda tells us all about how these stories and the character changed with the times to reflect the values held by the writers and the audience.

Episode 9- “The First Avenger”- Captain America Comics #1 Let's read Captain America Comics #1! Captain America celebrates his 80thAnniversary this month and this is where it all started- Captain America Comics #1. Plus, we take a look at the adaptation of his first origin story in the Marvel Cinematic Universe in Captain America: The First Avenger. You can follow the show @ComicsLloyd on Twitter or send an email to ClassicComicsMBL@gmail.com. You can find me on Twitter @MattB_Lloyd and at www.dccomicsnews.com where I write reviews and edit news stories. You can also check out my chapter in “Politics in Gotham: The Batman Universe and Political Thought.” https://www.amazon.com/Politics-Gotham-Universe-Political-Thought/dp/3030057755 Captain America Comics #1- Marvel.com https://www.marvel.com/comics/issue/7849/captain_america_comics_1941_1 Sentinels of Liberty https://scoop.previewsworld.com/Home/4/1/73/1016?articleID=196064 https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/topic/421959-captain-america-1941-sentinels-of-liberty-club-membership-set/ Marvel Masterworks Captain America Comics Vol. 1 https://www.amazon.com/Marvel-Masterworks-Golden-Captain-America/dp/078515793X --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/comics-in-motion-podcast/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/comics-in-motion-podcast/support

PopStream hosts Matt and Tajshen spoke with Crystal Skillman and Fred Van Lente about their new audio play, King Kirby, in this pre-recorded interview.  King Kirby tells the story of Jack “King Kirby,” the legendary comics artist who helped create Thor, the Fantastic Four, Darkseid and the New Gods, and some of the most popular characters in superhero comics. Kirby also co-created Captain America, who first appeared in Captain America Comics #1 80 years ago this March.PopStream is returning for Season 2 in April!

Now on to the Marvel side with the first appearance of Captain America in Captain America Comics #1. We see the first Avenger get his abilities, fight Nazi's, and go up against the first Red Skull! Do you have a story arc you'd like us to cover? Send us your ideas. Twitter: @comicrundown Instagram: @comicbookrundown Email: comicbookrundown@gmail.com Hosted by Joe Janero and Ron Hanes Edited by Joe Janero Theme song provided by one of the Sex Turtles (Joe Cubas) Find our t-shirt at https://www.redbubble.com/shop/comic+book+rundown?ref=search_box

This post-Pearl Harbor issue of Captain America Comics deals with the new Japanese threat in an interesting way. The Japanese characters are drawn with exaggerated features to help dehumanize them and make them easier to hate. It's good for propaganda, but bad for the soul!

The inside cover to this book boasts that it is NEW! DIFFERENT! EXCITING! I have to say it does deliver.

This issue feels like Avison and Shores pulling out all the stops to make the absence of Kirby and Simons less noticeable. They hit a lot of the same highlights and do a lot of the most Cap and Bucky things they can in how the visuals are presented.

Captain America is a superhero appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. Created by cartoonists Joe Simon and Jack Kirby, the character first appeared in Captain America Comics #1 (cover dated March 1941) from Timely Comics, a predecessor of Marvel Comics. Captain America was designed as a patriotic supersoldier who often fought the Axis powers of World War II and was Timely Comics' most popular character during the wartime period. The popularity of superheroes waned following the war, and the Captain America comic book was discontinued in 1950, with a short-lived revival in 1953. Since Marvel Comics revived the character in 1964, Captain America has remained in publication.

Captain America is a superhero appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. Created by cartoonists Joe Simon and Jack Kirby, the character first appeared in Captain America Comics #1 (cover dated March 1941) from Timely Comics, a predecessor of Marvel Comics. Captain America was designed as a patriotic supersoldier who often fought the Axis powers of World War II and was Timely Comics' most popular character during the wartime period. The popularity of superheroes waned following the war, and the Captain America comic book was discontinued in 1950, with a short-lived revival in 1953. Since Marvel Comics revived the character in 1964, Captain America has remained in publication.

Jack "King" Kirby and Joe Simon left Timely Comics after this blazing trio of adventures starring Cap and Bucky. They made every panel count!

We're back with a new episode of the Character Corner and this time we're covering the legend himself: Captain America Steve Rogers. This will actually be a two part episode with the second episode focusing on the other holders of the shield (Bucky, Sam, Isaiah and others).  For this episode though, we wanted to focus on Steve Rogers and some of the key runs for the character and how much of a symbol he is for the Marvel Comic universe. For those that falsely claim that comics today are "too political", it's clear they've never read a Captain America book because politics runs deep in these issues. Hell, the Captain America and the Falcon Secret Empire run (oh look at that, not the first time Secret Empire was used in a Captain America book) ends with Steve giving up the shield and becoming Nomad in a story that is a direct response to Nixon and Watergate that was happening around the same time. We're also using this to springboard into our rerun of Nick Spencer's run and to show how Spencer's run builds on stories that came before it. There is a recurring theme in Captain America books about Steve being discredited and the lesson being "don't just blindly follow symbols" Issues: Golden Age Captain America Comics #1 - First appearance of Steve Rogers/Captain America, James Buchanan"Bucky" Barnes, First appearance of Red Skull George Maxon (decoy) Captain America Comics #7 - First Appearance of Johann Schmidt as the real Red Skull Key First Appearances Avengers #4 - First Appearance of Silver Age Cap/Joins the Avengers Avengers #6/ Sgt Fury and His Howlinng Commandos #8 - First Appearance of Baron Zemo (Heinrich Zemo) Tales of Suspense #75 - First Appearance of Sharon Carter Tales of Suspense #77  - First Appearance of Peggy Carter Strange Tales #135 Sgt Fury and his Howling Commandos #5 - First Appearance of Baron Wolfgang Von Strucker  Captain America #117 - First Appearance of Sam Wilson Key Issues Captain America #290 - 301 Death of the Red Skull #290 - First appearance of Sinthea Schmidt/Mother Superior (Sin, daughter or Red Skull) #298 tells the full origin of the Red Skull Captain America and The Falcon: Secret Empire Mark Gruenwald Issues #307 - #443 Issues #323 - First Appearance of John Walker aka US Agent Brubaker's Run Captain America: Winter Solder Vol 1 Captain America: Winter Soldier Vol 2 Captain America: Red Menace Captain America: The Death of Captain America Vol 1 Hickman's Avengers run Avengers Standoff Assault on Pleasant Hill  Spencer's Captain America Run Coates Captain America Run The rest of Brubaker's run will be talked about during episode 2 when we talk about Bucky's time as Captain America. We've also talked several times about Hickman's Avengers Run that covers what happened with the Illuminati, New Avengers and Time Runs out in other episodes. Like what you hear? Subscribe so you don't miss an episode!   Follow us on Twitter: @Dpalm66 @InsanityReport @TheMTRNetwork   Our shirts are now on TeePublic:  https://teepublic.com/stores/mtr-network Want more podcast greatness? Sign up for a MTR Premium Account!  

We're back with a new episode of the Character Corner and this time we're covering the legend himself: Captain America Steve Rogers. This will actually be a two part episode with the second episode focusing on the other holders of the shield (Bucky, Sam, Isaiah and others).  For this episode though, we wanted to focus on Steve Rogers and some of the key runs for the character and how much of a symbol he is for the Marvel Comic universe. For those that falsely claim that comics today are "too political", it's clear they've never read a Captain America book because politics runs deep in these issues. Hell, the Captain America and the Falcon Secret Empire run (oh look at that, not the first time Secret Empire was used in a Captain America book) ends with Steve giving up the shield and becoming Nomad in a story that is a direct response to Nixon and Watergate that was happening around the same time. We're also using this to springboard into our rerun of Nick Spencer's run and to show how Spencer's run builds on stories that came before it. There is a recurring theme in Captain America books about Steve being discredited and the lesson being "don't just blindly follow symbols" Issues: Golden Age Captain America Comics #1 - First appearance of Steve Rogers/Captain America, James Buchanan"Bucky" Barnes, First appearance of Red Skull George Maxon (decoy) Captain America Comics #7 - First Appearance of Johann Schmidt as the real Red Skull Key First Appearances Avengers #4 - First Appearance of Silver Age Cap/Joins the Avengers Avengers #6/ Sgt Fury and His Howlinng Commandos #8 - First Appearance of Baron Zemo (Heinrich Zemo) Tales of Suspense #75 - First Appearance of Sharon Carter Tales of Suspense #77  - First Appearance of Peggy Carter Strange Tales #135 Sgt Fury and his Howling Commandos #5 - First Appearance of Baron Wolfgang Von Strucker  Captain America #117 - First Appearance of Sam Wilson Key Issues Captain America #290 - 301 Death of the Red Skull #290 - First appearance of Sinthea Schmidt/Mother Superior (Sin, daughter or Red Skull) #298 tells the full origin of the Red Skull Captain America and The Falcon: Secret Empire Mark Gruenwald Issues #307 - #443 Issues #323 - First Appearance of John Walker aka US Agent Brubaker's Run Captain America: Winter Solder Vol 1 Captain America: Winter Soldier Vol 2 Captain America: Red Menace Captain America: The Death of Captain America Vol 1 Hickman's Avengers run Avengers Standoff Assault on Pleasant Hill  Spencer's Captain America Run Coates Captain America Run The rest of Brubaker's run will be talked about during episode 2 when we talk about Bucky's time as Captain America. We've also talked several times about Hickman's Avengers Run that covers what happened with the Illuminati, New Avengers and Time Runs out in other episodes. Like what you hear? Subscribe so you don't miss an episode!   Follow us on Twitter: @Dpalm66 @InsanityReport @TheMTRNetwork   Our shirts are now on TeePublic:  https://teepublic.com/stores/mtr-network Want more podcast greatness? Sign up for a MTR Premium Account!  

Maybe we should have called this one "Atlas by the Month"? In the decade before Stan and Jack blew the doors off of the comics world with Fantastic Four #1, the company then known as Atlas Comics tried to relaunch their three biggest superheroes of the 1940's: Captain America, the Human Torch, and the Sub-Mariner! Our pal Joe Keatinge (Shutter, Ringside, Stellar, Marvel Knights: Hulk, Morbius: The Living Vampire) takes us on a tour of how these WWII heroes were retrofitted for the Red Scare in a pre-Comics Code world! Reading List: Captain America's Weird Tales #74, Young Men #24-28, Captain America Comics #76-78, Sub-Mariner Comics #33-42, Human Torch Comics #36-38, Men's Adventures #27-28. (Thanks to Tom Brevoort for his website articles and his chapters in Marvel Chronicle, which provided invaluable information.) "Marvel by the Month" theme by Robb Milne, sung by Barb Allen. All incidental music by Robb Milne. Visit us on internet at marvelbythemonth.com.

Angus punches his way into April's Captain America month with Captain America Comics #1. We are celebrating and eagerly anticipating Cap's MCU finale in Avengers: Endgame on April 26th. Each month in 2019 Angus will be doing one shots of key issues from a single comic book character. We’d love to hear which characters you would like featured and which specific single issues profiled for the remaining months of 2019! Please drop us a message on the anchor app or send us an mp3 or email to kirbyskidspodcast@gmail.com. Please share your impressions once you have read: Captain America Comics (1941-1950) #1 https://www.comixology.com/Captain-America-Comics-1941-1950-1/digital-comic/490 Leave a message via the anchor app at Kirby's Kids. www.anchor.fm/kirbyskids Join the Community Discussions https://mewe.com/join/kirbyskids Please join us down on the Comics Reading Trail in 2019 https://www.kirbyskids.com/2018/11/kirbys-kids-graphic-novel-reading-list.html For detailed show notes and past episodes please visit www.kirbyskids.com

We didn't plan on it, but our Patron asked for it... so we covered CAPTAIN AMERICA! Anthony & Doc examine the Sentinel of Liberty, and what kind of responsibilities rest upon his broad, massive, sculpted shoulders. Listen now! SHOW NOTES: Intro Shoutout to Stacking Benjamins podcast – (10:04) Background (13:21) Created by Joe Simon & Jack Kirby in Captain America Comics #1 (March 1941) from Timely Comics Steve Rogers is a sickly kid from New York who volunteers for a government experiment to create a super soldier – the scientist responsible is killed after Rogers undergoes the procedure, leaving him the only result Is given a bulletproof shield made of vibranium by FDR, and befriends young James Buchanan Barnes, aka Bucky Battles the Red Skull, a Nazi super soldier, and other enemies of America and freedom Cap and Bucky are presumably killed trying to defuse a bomb on a plane flying over the North Atlantic as World War II was coming to a close Others carried the mantle of Captain America during the 1950s Steve Rogers discovered encased in ice by Avengers, the super soldier serum keeping him alive in suspended animation – revived by the team and joins them Befriends the Falcon, and falls in love with Sharon Carter, the niece of his wartime love Peggy Carter During the 1970s, Steve becomes disillusioned with the American government and gives up mantle of Captain America, becoming “Nomad”, a man without a country – takes up the suit again when he realized he could support the ideals without supporting the government In the 1980s, he once again leaves the Captain America identity behind when the government forces him to work for them – becomes The Captain – John Walker becomes new Captain America – they battle, and Steve resumes his title, while Walker becomes US Agent In “Civil War”, Cap leads the Anti-Registration side against Tony Stark’s pro-reg faction – he orders his team to stand down after realizing the fight is costing too much Gets shot by assassin (revealed to be a brainwashed Sharon Carter) and “dies”, but his body phases out of space-time until he is returned to the present by the Red Skull Hands the Captain America mantle to Bucky, and takes over SHIELD until Bucky dies, at which point he resumes being Captain America The serum in his body gets neutralized, and he rapidly ages to a 90 yr old man – Falcon takes over as Captain America, while he coordinates Avengers missions After the Avengers: Standoff event, a girl named Kobik uses the Cosmic Cube to rewrite history, making Steve a HYDRA double agent since the beginning – although this was reverted, the public does not trust Steve Rogers Issues (19:38) Man out of time – has to adapt to all the changes associated with the new period Has to be the moral center of the country/world (30:52) Struggles with representing America – ideals vs government vs people (38:19) Treatment (54:04) In-universe Out of universe (59:41) Skit (67:03) Ending (74:46) References: Tony Stark episode - Anthony - 16:38 Rip Van Winkle - Anthony - 21:35 "What Have You Done For Me Lately" by Janet Jackson - Anthony - 25:49 ENIAC - Anthony - 28:28 Jessica Jones episode - Doc - 32:45 "What Comes Next" from Hamilton - Anthony - 42:13 iTunes: here Google Play: here Stitcher: here TuneIn: here iHeartRadio: here Spotify: here Twitter FacebookE-mailPatreon

Marvel Comics 1 (1939), Captain America Comics 1 (1940), The Avengers 4 (1964)

Marvel Comics 1 (1939), Captain America Comics 1 (1940), The Avengers 4 (1964)

Ryan and Tucker peer into the past and create a pull list from the pioneering years of Marvel Comics with MARVEL COMICS #1, MARVEL MYSTERY COMICS #4, CAPTAIN AMERICA COMICS #1 and more!

Ryan and Tucker peer into the past and create a pull list from the pioneering years of Marvel Comics with MARVEL COMICS #1, MARVEL MYSTERY COMICS #4, CAPTAIN AMERICA COMICS #1 and more!

Joe looks at the incredibly topical Captain America Comics #1 from 1941, as one of two recommendations based on The First Avenger. He's also got the first volume of Ed Brubaker and Steve Epting's 2005 run to look at, but let's face it, in January 2017 it's all about the Nazi-punching. Oh, and yes: we do know that it was Joe Simon as well as Jack Kirby who did the original Cap stuff, just in case anyone wanted to write in and complain about Joe's mistake. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Jon and Blaine discuss the first appearance of the Captain America.

Jon and Blaine discuss the first appearance of the Captain America.

In this first mini-episode, Mike dives into Captain America Comics number 5!

For Captain America the shield is more than defense--it's a symbol of America and taking "the American Dream and make it an American reality." Now, nearly 75 years after first appearing in Captain America Comics #2, Captain America and his shield serve as a symbol, both in the Marvel Universe and in the real world, of strength, idealism, and patriotism. And as seen in The Avengers and the two Captain America movies, it's pretty darn cool as well! In 2014 eFX Collectibles' gave fans their chance to be like Stephen Colbert and put Captain America's shield on their walls with their Avengers Captain America Shield Prop Replica. A full scale collectible cast from the original molds of the prop used in The Avengers, this eFX prop had been teased for years. Even with an edition size of 1,500 it sold out quickly. But the Marvelicious Toys hosts have one in-hand and review it on this episode! Also on this show, a quick review of the new Ultimate Spider-Man Web Warriors figures from Hasbro, a look at the new Thanos and Captain America figures from Hot Toys, and a preview of the new LEGO UCS LEGO set. So what are you waiting for? Marvelicious Collectors Assemble for this week's new show!

For Captain America the shield is more than defense--it's a symbol of America and taking "the American Dream and make it an American reality." Now, nearly 75 years after first appearing in Captain America Comics #2, Captain America and his shield serve as a symbol, both in the Marvel Universe and in the real world, of strength, idealism, and patriotism. And as seen in The Avengers and the two Captain America movies, it's pretty darn cool as well! In 2014 eFX Collectibles' gave fans their chance to be like Stephen Colbert and put Captain America's shield on their walls with their Avengers Captain America Shield Prop Replica. A full scale collectible cast from the original molds of the prop used in The Avengers, this eFX prop had been teased for years. Even with an edition size of 1,500 it sold out quickly. But the Marvelicious Toys hosts have one in-hand and review it on this episode! Also on this show, a quick review of the new Ultimate Spider-Man Web Warriors figures from Hasbro, a look at the new Thanos and Captain America figures from Hot Toys, and a preview of the new LEGO UCS LEGO set. So what are you waiting for? Marvelicious Collectors Assemble for this week's new show!

Happy 4th of July! What better way to celebrate with @HeroHeads then talking about Captain America! The character first appeared in Captain America Comics #1 (cover-dated March 1941) from Marvel Comics' 1940s predecessor, Timely Comics, and was created by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby. As of 2007, an estimated 210 million copies of "Captain America" comic books had been sold in 75 countries. For nearly all of the character's publication history, Captain America has been the alter ego of Steve Rogers, a frail young man who was enhanced to the peak of human perfection by an experimental serum, in order to aid the United States government's imminent efforts in World War II. Captain America wears a costume that bears an American flag motif, and is armed with a nearly indestructible shield that can be used for defense and can also be thrown as a weapon.--- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/southarcadia/messageSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/southarcadia/support

Fica tranquilo, aqui não tem spoiler do novo filme do Capitão América! Este episódio serve para você, que não entende nada do personagem (criado por Jack Kirby e Joe Simon em 1941) não ficar mais perdido que cachorro em dia de mudança quando assistir à "Capitão América 2: O Soldado Invernal". Mas, para você, macaco véio como Daniel HDR, Fabiano "Prof. Nerd" Silveira, Rogério DeSouza, Gustavo Brauner e Marcos Dark (o Âmago), este episódio será uma volta às lembranças quando o Sentinela da Liberdade foi publicado aqui no Brasil. As histórias (memoráveis e péssimas), os roteristas, artistas, fatos e curiosidades que passaram pelas páginas das hqs de Steve Rogers, o jovem pobre do Lower East Side de Nova Iorque que tornou-se o Super Soldado que nos anos 1990 teve os peitões mais siliconados e malfalados dos comics.   Links relacionados: - Estréia do personagem em Captain America Comics, em Março de 1941; - Sim, não é só o Aranha que teve vilões ridículos. Conheça o BORBOLETA, vilão do Capitas; - Capitão e o seu "CapitasVerso" nos anos 1940; - Falcão aparece nas HQs do Capitão América; - Capitão e Caveira (não exatamente nesta ordem) às voltas com o CUBO CÓSMICO; - O Capitão América descobre que o lider máximo de sua nação era o cabeça de uma ordem secreta - em pleno período do segundo governo NIXON; - Frustado com o sistema, Rogers deixa de ser o Capitas e vira o Nômade; - Kirby volta para a Marvel e assume o título do personagem, nos anos 1970; - O Capitão América de Roger Stern e John Byrne, - edição por edição resenhada por Marcos Dark; - Mike Zeck assume arte da revista, após Byrne. Crossover com Deathlok; - Magneto se vinga do Caveira Vermelha; - O Capitas "Robocop" Wanna Be... que porra foi essa? - O inicio memorável da fase do personagem com Mark Waid e Ron Garney; - Liefeld puxando o tapete em Herís Renascem. Precisa dizer algo mais? - Como se Heróis Renascem nunca tivesse ocorrido, Waid e Garney voltam (ainda bem) para a revista; - Pós 11 de Setembro, a polêmica fase de Ney Rieber e Cassaday; - Truth: retcon conta o primeiro teste do soro do supersoldado, feito em um negro; - O surgimento do SOLDADO INVERNAL - ótima fase de Ed Brubaker e Steve Epting; - Primeiro quadrinho lido pelo Marcos Dark com o personagem; - Primeiro quadrinho lido pelo Fabiano Silveira com o personagem; - Primeiro quadrinho lido pelo Daniel HDR com o personagem; - Primeiro quadrinhos lido pelo Gustavo Brauner com o personagem; - Os uniformes do Super Soldado; - ArgCast #71 - A Era de Ouro dos Quadrinhos; - ArgCast #136 - Jack Kirby; E NÃO PERCA O RASTRO DO ARGCAST na INTERNET! TWITTER: @cursodehq e CURTA NOSSA PÁGINA no FACEBOOK (enquanto ainda temos saco pra aguentar as maracutaias desta rede social que comprou o WhatsApp);

E você ACHAVA que o ARGCAST ia deixar passar esse assunto? Mesmo tendo sido em Fevereiro, o ArgCast homenageia o REI DOS COMICS, o IMORTAL JACK KIRBY! No dia 6 de Fevereiro de 1994, (a 20 anos atrás) morria um dos maiores nomes (se não o maior) dos quadrinhos de super-heróis! A trajetória de Jacob Kurtzberg, o jovem judeu que aprendeu a desenhar sozinho e usou as HQs para lutar contra a pobre infância. Aquele que entrou em brigas para ajudar o colega de estúdio Will Eisner. Aquele que criou, junto com Joe Simon, o Capitão América! Inventor dos gênero dos quadrinhos de guerra, de romance, co-criador da Marvel Comics (sim, ele CO-CRIOU, juntamente com o lendário Stan Lee). O artista que misturou mitologia, ficção científica e aventura com os Novos Deuses e os Celestiais. Com casa cheia, venha dizer "HAIL TO THE KING" com Daniel HDR, Rogério DeSouza, Rodjer Goulart, Luis Garavello (Quadrim), Rafael Eunuco (BdE), Victor Vaughan (O Santuário), Zweist (Superamiches) e Bruno Costa (Cinecast). Links relacionados: - Rose, Ben e o pequeno Jacob (Jack) Kurtzberg (Kirby) - em 1920; - Um Kirby moleque, de várzea, com sua modesta Gangue da Rua Yancy; - Kirby pinta de galã; - Kirby começa a namorar Rosalind "Roz" Goldstein nos anos 1940; - Joe Simon e Jack Kirby montam estúdio juntos; - A estréia de Captain America Comics, pela Timely Comics (Dezembro de 1940); - Kirby vai para a guerra. Foto de Kirby e Roz no dia que Kirby viajava para servir no front; - Kirby era um soldado de infantaria de combate, alé de soldade de reconhecimento do campo inimigo; - Kirby e Simon criam o Fighting American, (Março de 1954); - Kirby e Simon criam Young Romance: hqs de romance, gênero praticamente criado pela dupla; - Kirby vira editor - like a boss; - Kirby na ATLAS COMICS (antes desta virar MARVEL): HQs de ficção com monstros loucos como o Dragão de sunga FIN FANG FOOM; - Nasce Quarteto Fantástico; através do talento criativo de Kirby e Lee; - Logo em seguida, Thor e Hulk; - O Coisa: diálogo do autor e criação, com detalhes biográficos; - Surfista Prateado, criado por Kirby, aparece nas páginas de Fantastic Four #50; - Jack quando ainda trabalhava nas dependências da Marvel Comics, em Nova Iorque. Desenhar 5 revistas por mês, mais direção de arte de capas não te dá tempo para ser garoto propaganda da editora; - Kirby passa a trabalhar mais em casa. Mesmo quando mudou para a California, no inicio dos anos 1970, Kirby manteve até o fim de sua vida o modesto espaço de trabalho, com sua velha prancheta, cadeira e mesa auxiliar; - E mesmo desenhando o tempo todo, Kirby sempre esteve presente com sua família: veja fotos 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 - Kirby vai para a DC COMICS, salvando a torpe revista de Jimmy Olsen! A ida de Kirby para a DC foi um evento! - O Guardião: o conceito original criado por Kirby para o ressurgimento do Capitão América, aqui apresentado na DC; - Algumas das alterações na arte de Kirby durante sua fase desenhando Superman: 1, 2, 3; - Kirby inicia o QUARTO MUNDO, seu projeto autoral, com controle absoluto no roteiro e arte; - Os Novos Deuses, Forever People e Sr. Milagre: 3 ttulos feitos ao mesmo tempo; - Darkseid a lá ´Seu Madruga´: "Chavinho, vem cá!"; - Big Barda tomando um belo banho; - Funky Flashman - qualquer semelhança com Mr. Lee não é mera coincidência; - Corredor Negro: a morte anda de esquí no Quarto Mundo; - Demon; - Omac; - Kamandi; - Kirby volta para Marvel Comics, com desenho e roteiro na revista do Capitão América; - Kirby cria OS ETERNOS, para muitos a continuação do seu Quarto Mundo; - Mark Evanier, co criador de GROO - O Errante, na epoca em que foi auxiliar de estúdio de Kirby; - Mark Evanier e Kirby, ja nos anos 1990 - amizade e respeito etterno! Evanier é uma das maiores autoridades sobre a obra de Jack Kirby no mundo; - Kirby como artista conceitual de animação, aqui na serie THUNDARR, o BÁRBARO; - Quadrinhos e artes de licenciamento da série de brinquedos SUPERPOWERS;

Captain America is a superhero appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. Created by cartoonists Joe Simon and Jack Kirby, the character first appeared in Captain America Comics #1 (cover dated March 1941) from Timely Comics, a predecessor of Marvel Comics. Captain America was designed as a patriotic supersoldier who often fought the Axis powers of World War II and was Timely Comics' most popular character during the wartime period. The popularity of superheroes waned following the war, and the Captain America comic book was discontinued in 1950, with a short-lived revival in 1953. Since Marvel Comics revived the character in 1964, Captain America has remained in publication.

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You're not here to hear Dan and Mike compare Captain America Comics #7 to Captain America #16, The Arrow #3 to Hawkeye #1, and Whiz Comics #22 to Captain Marvel #2. No! You're here for the pot of gold that is The Rainbow!

You're not here to hear Dan and Mike compare Captain America Comics #7 to Captain America #16, The Arrow #3 to Hawkeye #1, and Whiz Comics #22 to Captain Marvel #2. No! You're here for the pot of gold that is The Rainbow!

You're not here to hear Dan and Mike compare Captain America Comics #7 to Captain America #16, The Arrow #3 to Hawkeye #1, and Whiz Comics #22 to Captain Marvel #2. No! You're here for the pot of gold that is The Rainbow!

You're not here to hear Dan and Mike compare Captain America Comics #7 to Captain America #16, The Arrow #3 to Hawkeye #1, and Whiz Comics #22 to Captain Marvel #2. No! You're here for the pot of gold that is The Rainbow!

Around Comics' Brion Salazar joins us to celebrate our 50th train wreck! Topics include: Captain America Comics, Popgun Volume 1 from Image, Rick Veitch, The Outer Space Men, Big Man Japan from Magnolia Pictures, I Love You, Beth Cooper, Pixar comics from Boom!, FANZINE FLASHBACK, Agents of Atlas and Gabriel Hardman, X-Infernus, Vertigo Crime, Cable and Deadpool, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Flash: Rebirth, Gil Kane, Bendis and the Avengers, and much more!