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Economist and author Thomas Sowell makes his long-awaited (and oft requested) return to Uncommon Knowledge with Peter Robinson to unveil his newest project: a website titled Facts Against Rhetoric, a powerful resource dedicated to empirical thinking and intellectual clarity. In this interview, Sowell explores some of the most urgent issues in American life—from the collapse of educational standards to the unintended consequences of affirmative action, the impact of tariffs, and the erosion of family and cultural structures within Black communities. Drawing on a lifetime of scholarship and lived experience, Sowell revisits the remarkable but forgotten progress made by African Americans in the century following the Civil War, dismantles myths surrounding capitalism and inequality, and challenges dominant narratives in academia and media. With clarity, wit, and intellectual honesty, Sowell calls for a return to a culture that values facts over feelings—and results over intentions. Recorded on April 1, 2025 RELATED SOURCES: Facts Against Rhetoric by Thomas Sowell

In this gripping true crime episode, we uncover the horrifying story of serial killer Anthony Edward Sowell, also known as the Cleveland Strangler. Between 2007 and 2009, Sowell lured vulnerable women to his Cleveland home, where he committed unspeakable acts of violence. We trace his troubled childhood, disturbing behavior, and the systemic failures that allowed him to evade justice for so long. Featuring survivor accounts, court details, and the tragic stories of the 11 women whose lives were taken, this deep-dive exposes the chilling reality of one of America's most shocking serial murder cases.Sources:The road to Imperial Avenue. By Tony Brown and Joe Guillen for The Plain Dealer. January 24, 2010. State v. Sowell, 148 Ohio St.3d 554, 2016-Ohio-8025. 2016. Cleveland serial killer Anthony Sowell dies in prison. By Deanna Hackney and Jason Hanna for CNN. Tuesday February 9, 2021. https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/09/us/anthony-sowell-cleveland-serial-killer-dies-trnd/index.html.The Victims of Anthony Sowell, the Cleveland Strangler. By Crystal Ponti for A&E. September 23, 2021. https://www.aetv.com/real-crime/anthony-sowell-victimsAnthony Sowell, Serial Killer Who Terrorized Cleveland, Dies at 61. By Neil Vigdor for NY Times.com. February 9, 2021. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/09/us/anthony-sowell-serial-killer-dead.html.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_SowellSerial killer Sowell's family testify he was abused. By Kim Palmer for Reuters. August 2, 2011. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-crime-sowell-idUSTRE7715ZF20110802/. Serial killer Anthony Sowell began raping niece when both were children, witness testifies. By Leila Atassi for Cleveland.com. August 2, 2011. https://web.archive.org/web/20171014084027/http://www.cleveland.com/anthony-sowell/index.ssf/2011/08/serial_killer_anthony_sowell_began_raping_niece_when_both_were_children_witness_testifies.html. Anthony Sowell was considered unlikely to attack again in 2005 evaluation. By Gabriel Baird for The Plain Dealer. November 6, 2009. https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2009/11/anthony_sowell_was_considered.html. Cleveland to demolish serial killer's home. By Maggie Schneider for CNN. December 5, 2011. Death Row Drawings: Sowell's Controversial Artwork is Selling. By Kevin Freeman for Fox 8 News. November 13, 2012. 11:59 Media has made a big (risky) change.No more $18 VIP pricing. For $5, supporters get everything we have to offer - every podcast, live backdoor access to watch us record, video episodes, uncut episodes, all of our PLUS podcasts, early and ad-free, and more. Support 11:59 Media's vision to build our great creators. Visit ⁠11:59 Media on Patreon⁠ https://patreon.com/1159media to sign up now. Start your support, and access everything you've been missing.

This is a rebroadcast from December 11, 2024Apparently, tariffs are a bad idea for all countries involved, because they raise the prices for all consumers. But maybe there is more to consider, like the politics between countries. At least the talk about tariffs makes a pretty good threat.Follow Us:YouTubeTwitterFacebookTumblrAll audio & videos edited by: Jay Prescott VideographyClip Used: Thomas Sowell warns trade wars can spin out of controlBy: Fox News

I learned from our guest this time that only about %1 of Americans serve in the military. For most of us, our understanding of the military and military life comes from what we see in the movies, watch on television and sometimes from what we read in books. Our guest today, Rob Richard, has served in the U.S. army for over 20 years and is now about to be fully retired from the life that he has come to know. Rob's upbringing was in a military family. I asked him if all that he had learned and seen growing up prepared him for a life in the military. His somewhat surprising answer was “no”. We spend much of this episode learning from Rob what his life was like. We get a glimpse into a military world that is significantly different than what we see in the movies and elsewhere. Rob offers us many great insights and helps us see a side of leadership that we all could learn from. Rob has visited 31 countries both for pleasure and work. What I like most about my time with Rob today is how he has used his military time to learn and develop an understanding of others much less himself. I think you will find Rob's observations poignant and useful in many ways. About the Guest: Rob Richard is a retired Army officer and a native of Southern Maryland. With 20 years of military leadership experience, he has served two combat tours in Iraq during the mid-2000s at the height of the war and several tours in Korea and Germany. Rob spent over six years as a Logistics officer in various Special Operations Units and 14 years in Conventional forces, gaining invaluable experience in both specialized and general military operations. His military experiences range from tragic and harrowing events to comedic tales of misadventure as he navigated his career through the bureaucracy of the American war machine. Rob's career has taken him around the globe, visiting over 31 countries for both work and leisure. He holds a Master's degree in Leadership and Management from Webster University and a Bachelor's degree in Communications from Towson University and completed the ROTC program through Loyola University of Baltimore. He is a dedicated husband and father of two. An alumnus of The Honor Foundation, Rob has successfully transitioned his elite military service to the private sector. The Honor Foundation serves as the premier career transition program for U.S. Special Operations Forces, helping to create the next generation of corporate and community leaders. Ways to connect with Rob: LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-j-richard About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog. Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards. https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/ accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/ Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below! Subscribe to the podcast If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can subscribe in your favorite podcast app. You can also support our podcast through our tip jar https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/unstoppable-mindset . Leave us an Apple Podcasts review Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts. Transcription Notes: Michael Hingson ** 00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us. Well, hi everyone. I am Mike Hingson, your host here on unstoppable mindset, and we're going to have, I think, a lot of fun, as we usually do, and we love to anyway, I tell all of my guests who come on the podcast that the only rule that we have for unstoppable mindset, and it's a hard and fast rule is you got to have fun, so it's important to do that. Our guest today is Rob Richard. Rob has been in the military for these the last 20 years, and he is retiring, so I'm anxious to hear all about that, and any stories and other things that he wants to tell. But he's he's an intriguing individual. It's been fun chatting with him and preparing for this. So Rob, I want to welcome you to unstoppable mindset. We're really glad you're here.   Rob Richard ** 02:08 Thanks, Michael. It's, uh, it's honor to be here. You know, last night I told my son, um, a little bit about your backstory, and then I was coming on here, and he was like, Oh, that's such an honor to talk to him. And he said, wow, they picked you, dad, really? And I was like, I was like, I guess, I guess he wants to speak with me. So it's an honor talking to you, and I appreciate your backstory. And my son, you know, learning about history in America over the past, you know, 20 years or so, being nine, he was very, you know, thought it was very honor for me to speak with you today. And I agree. I concur. So thank you very much for having   Michael Hingson ** 02:36 me. Well, I don't know, as a matter so much a matter of picking my belief is that everyone has a story to tell, and I believe that we're all more unstoppable than we think we are. And the problem is that we grow up mostly not really learning to have as much in the way of self confidence, and I mean that in a positive way, as opposed to just an ego, but self confidence and self respect as we should have, and all too often, were were encouraged not to really think as strongly about our capabilities and ourselves as we should. So my goal with unstoppable mindset has always been to give people an opportunity to come on and tell their story and help all of us realize that we're more unstoppable than we think we are. And I think that's really pretty important to do. So I Well, one of these days we we have to interview your son, and that ought to be fine. He's   Rob Richard ** 03:36 going to achieve great things. He's more kids, so it takes after his mom. So Well, there   Michael Hingson ** 03:41 you go. Well, I suspect that you have something to do with it too, sure. Well, tell us a little bit kind of about the early Rob growing up and all that sort of stuff.   Rob Richard ** 03:51 So I come from a military family. My father was in the army, and he's from New Jersey originally, but my maternal family was based out of Baltimore. My grandfather, paternal grandfather, was also in the military. I spent most of my formative years in Southern Maryland, in Charles County, Maryland, which is a distinctly unique place. It's about, you know, 45 to 50 minutes south of DC. So there's a bit of this sort of rural kind of where the south starts right the Chesapeake Bay and the lower Potomac River, a culture of nefarious characters and great fun growing up there. But I was close enough to DC to be around that that sort of government culture quite a bit. Also had a few formative years in Alabama and Alaska as well, moving around so that shaped a lot of who I was living in the South in the in the 80s and early 90s. And then, of course, you know, I went to college in Baltimore, very closely connected to that city, based on my maternal family's connection. There huge oils fan. I love the city of Baltimore. Brother was a police officer there for a while. So I'm a Maryland guy through and through. I'm from there. Very proud of it. I went to college at Towson University in Baltimore, Maryland. Ah. Where I did the ROTC program through Loyola College, and that's pretty much the gist of me. I think that growing up where I did around the folks that I did, the interesting characters, the type of youth that I had a little bit wild and and sort of free for all that sort of Gen Xenu youth, of just kind of being let, let go to my own devices kind of help shape who I am and help shape my character greatly. So that's pretty much my early start in life.   Michael Hingson ** 05:26 So there was kind of no doubt that you were going to go into the military. Probably family expected it, and you grew up expecting it, I guess.   Rob Richard ** 05:36 Well, you know, I to be honest, I never thought much about the military until I was going to go away to college, right? And so my dad was like, hey, you know, the ROTC program is a great way to give yourself an opportunity right out of college, and they pay for everything. So Truth in Lending, I probably joined the army more for financial reasons out of the gate than, you know, family patriotic reasons. They're certainly part of that. And obviously, when I was in ROTC, the second year, 911 obviously happened. And so I knew that my future was kind of written for me, with a lot of strife going forward as a military guy. So I knew probably around 2021, that's kind of what I wanted to do. But it wasn't always that way. There was a lot of other things I wanted to do growing up, and it just kind of, for whatever reason, that was the shining light that kind of, you know, directed me towards, you know, serving. So I ended up doing that for 20 years, and here I am now. So   Michael Hingson ** 06:30 Well, there you go. Well, on the other hand, if there were other things that you wanted to do, did you get to do any of them in the military? Did the military give you up an environment where you were able to stretch and grow and maybe do some things that that you wanted to do, or maybe that you didn't even think you were ever going to do.   Rob Richard ** 06:48 Yes, I think, you know, one of the great things that that the military offered me was a chance to, I love getting in front of audiences, and I love to tell a story, and I love to tell and, you know, and tell a joke, and tell the things, and do these sort of things. So as a leader, you have to develop a great sense of communication, a great sense to relate to people who come from different backgrounds and and, you know, different places than yourself. And I think the military, being a leader in the military, in particular, you know, the branch of service that I served in the Army, as a logistician, I got a chance to really work with a lot of different types of folks and a lot of different groups of people. And it let me kind of see just all walks of life. And then I kind of mentioned we sent our pre question was, I've been to 31 countries for fun, you know, not just for work. I met my wife in Germany. She's was an American soldier as well. I've got a chance to see the world. The world. The military gave me that privilege. They gave me that opportunity that a lot of people just don't get, you know, I've gotten to see all kinds of things and go out and see the world. So I was very fortunate. And so I guess meeting new and interesting people, seeing the world leading young men and women in combat, is very important to me. It's something that I, you know, never really thought I would have a chance to do growing up, and there's, there's no war now, there was one. So, yeah, I got a chance to do, do these things for many years over so I'm very thankful to the military for that,   Michael Hingson ** 08:11 just the military, and this is just just popped into to my head. So it's just a curiosity, does the military overall tend to evolve as society evolves. I mean, it's not a stagnant kind of a thing. I would assume. I   Rob Richard ** 08:27 think it's a little bit ahead of the game, but I don't necessarily think they're ahead of the game, because it's necessarily the righteous thing to do, but it's almost a business decision, meaning so they desegregated units before most of America, you know, in our general populace was desegregated, but that was more of a decision because they they needed to have people work together, right? Because they had wars and to fight and and things to do. So I think the military is often ahead of the curve when it comes to, you know, desegregation, when it comes to, you know, moving people forward that don't have the backgrounds that are necessarily totally accepted by society at the time. So I think they're a little ahead of the head of the game when it comes to to those sort of things. So I think they generally keep pace with society, yes, if not a little bit ahead.   Michael Hingson ** 09:11 I'll tell you why I asked. It just was something I was thinking about as you were talking. I grew up in the Vietnam era, and for what that was worth on all sides. But during that time, they instituted and had the draft and they even developed a lottery system to decide who was going to go first. And my lottery number was fairly low, but when I turned 18, I fairly quickly got a letter saying you are classified one, a which was the classification where you could be drafted into the military. And I knew that that wasn't going to last being blind, and that they would figure that out, and they did, but I've always thought for me and. And others, they missed it. Why is it that a blind person couldn't find opportunities to serve in the military? It doesn't necessarily mean that we have to be in in the middle of a war zone. There are certainly other aspects of working in the military that a blind person could do, and yet the military kind of never really took advantage of that. Now there are a few people who were blinded in in wartime or because of one thing or another with terrorists, and so they're in the military. They started in the military and then they continued. But it still is true that you don't find real opportunities for blind people to serve in any aspect of the military. And I had a company that I formed back in 1985 and one of the main people who helped me was a retired colonel from the Marines, and he even said there is no reason why there there aren't opportunities available for people who are blind and think tanks and doing other kinds of things that are outside the regular war zone. So it's kind of fascinating, but I think it's an interesting and relevant thing to think about that clearly there are opportunities that ought to be available. Does that make sense?   Rob Richard ** 11:23 It does. I agree. I think one, the one thing about being a soldier at any level is there needs to be a commonality and a standard of that people can do a baseline thing, right? So there's physical fitness assessments, there's things that people need to do based on, you know, certain levels of training, whether it's shooting or going out and doing all these things, that there needs to be a baseline where everyone's kind of even So certain things that I worked in recruiting, uh, ironically enough, for two years, and certain things that are just qualifiers take away from the universal, uh, set that people need a universal set of skills, that people need to be a soldier in general. So there's avenues and different things that you can do with a disability or with things that are would mitigate you from serving in the front lines. But a little bit of what we'll talk about is in these previous wars, not everybody that was necessarily considered a frontline soldier, you know, was, was certainly not negated from from facing combat. And we can, we can talk about that, expound that a little bit, but I think that every person needs to have a basic set of skills. And there are certain things that, if you are blind or if you do have a disability that would, you know, take away from your your ability to do things that are a standard set of things, like, even as a senior officer or a senior non commissioned officer, you still have to take a certain physical fitness test, you still have to, you know, go out and shoot your weapon. You still have to do things that require sight, that require a certain level of hearing. Once you take away from that commonality that everyone has, now you're looking at someone who's not brought into the field and accepted as a soldier of commonality. Does that does that make sense? Or   Michael Hingson ** 12:59 you make an assumption, though, that isn't necessarily so. For example, there are a number of blind people who do shoot their hunters and so on. And so the issue is you have to separate out the skill from how you exhibit the skills. So, for example, right, shooting at a target, if there is a, if there is an auditory cue that allows me to aim at the target, can I learn to shoot at a target and and likewise, yeah, but I hear what you're saying, but I think at the same time, the reality is that that there are, there are certainly options, and what we really need to do is not leave out intelligent minds that might very well be able to contribute to what we do. And that's kind of what prompted the question,   Rob Richard ** 13:58 Oh, I agree, too. And I think that when you see the recruiting crisis that in particularly the army is facing, there needs to be avenues that bring other folks in who might not have the traditional physical skill set that other soldiers have, and allow them to serve. I agree with that, and that's something, I think, especially modern technology, that could be something to be brought into the fold in the future, to be looked at. But I do think, for like, I worked in Special Operations for, you know, for several years, you know, as paratrooper these sort of things. There are certain things that you must have this physical acumen and things that you must be able to do in order to accomplish those tasks in those schools. And, you know, the different training assessments that you have. So if there's a separate place that people can go and have those technologies available to mitigate anything that perhaps their, you know, disability might stop them from doing, I think that's certainly something to consider and something to look at going forward. So that's a great point. Like, I appreciate you bringing that up. I never looked at it that way, to be honest. So I always thought about this linear way of looking at. That you have to have these certain physical attributes to serve. But that's great. I that's a good way to look at it. So it's   Michael Hingson ** 15:06 well and I think, I think it's important to look at what attributes are are necessary to have, but But I also think that a lot of times what we can discover is that exhibiting those attributes may not be the same for one person as opposed to another, but the point is, we can still exhibit the attributes. So it's an interesting thing to, you know, to explore. Great. So tell me about the you know, and I realize that you're speaking for you and your observations and so on. But tell me a little bit about the crisis. You mentioned that, and I read it elsewhere. Tell me a little bit more about the crisis that we're really exhibiting today.   Rob Richard ** 15:46 So I worked in the Dallas, United States Army recruiting Dallas for two years. I was executive officer there, and I was also a time operations officer. And so I got to see the big picture of how the army does recruiting. And even then, in the height of the war, when the what they call the numbers was up and recruiting was was pretty good, still, they struggled to to link up the kind of bridge where they call it military civilian gap, right? So there's a couple different things I think that we need to take into consideration here. Number one, I think about only 1% of the nation serves right? And a large percentage of those folks are like myself. There they are legacy people, people who have a connection to the military. So I think the first thing to do is you have to bridge that military and civilian gap, and you have to look at why aren't people joining the military, right? And I'll be honest with you, the the army itself is terrible at branding in comparison to, say, the Marine Corps, right? Things like uniform and commonality of identity, the Marines do that way better, I think, than the army does. Right? As far as like, we have this certain set of things that we go with are always kind of changing their motto and go in different directions. But in general, there's also a population of people, because we just hit on it. Now you talk about, you know, having something that's going to stop you from serving. There are a large number of people who just don't meet the criteria. It's actually harder to get into the United States Army than it is to go to a four year university. So you're talking about physical fitness requirements. You're talking about legalities. You know, people getting in trouble with the law that disqualifies them from service, prior drug use, things like that, things that are looking at packing away and taking away for waivers. But the number one biggest thing is, I just think society societal differences on how civilian people and the military are connected. I think people just have a general misunderstanding of what the military is. They have a general misunderstanding of what it is to serve. And I just don't think that in our in our current society, that enough people are willing to step up and do it because life is too comfortable, and that's my personal opinion. That's not necessarily, you know, the Army's opinion. That's my opinion. Do you   Michael Hingson ** 17:51 think that it also has to do with how the military is portrayed, like in movies and TV shows and so on? Does that enter into it at all? Yes, I think, you know, we think so, and that's why I asked, I think   Rob Richard ** 18:04 so. And I like to get your take on what it is that when you say that, is it the is it a negative portrayal? Is a good portrayal. If you look at how certain wars are portrayed, right, you take it away. World War Two was portrayed versus, say, Vietnam, right? They're not portrayed totally different ways, right? You look at the modern war, and often veterans are painted this picture of a tragic experience, a tragic a tragedy, right? There's often this experience that is okay. This is a person that had a tragic thing happened to them. The war is something that was they went through and now they have this ailment, or whatever it is. It's often framed as that, but it's more complex than that. Yeah, a service is more complex than that. And I think that another thing is people don't understand that most military folks are middle class by the time they hit a certain age, right? So by the time you are excuse, by the time they hit a certain rank or time in service, they have middle class, you know, houses they live in a certain way of of a certain lifestyle that the army and the military in general affords to them. And I don't think people understand the financial and monetary benefit that you get for from the military. I don't think that's clearly articulated as a as a form of, hey, this is something I want my kid to do. You know, there's a lot of this, not in my backyard, type, but hey, that's great. Thank you for your service. But I don't want to serve, right? There's a lot of that that goes around in American society, I think. And I don't know if that resonates with you or if you agree, or Yeah, I   Michael Hingson ** 19:23 do understand that. I certainly don't disagree. I think that there is a lot of merit to that. What, what strikes me, though, is that there is a great misunderstanding. You know, if you watch some of the TV shows that are on when they talk about the military, it's, it's kind of a romanticized sort of thing, but the the and the the tragedy of veterans and so on, certainly there, there's a lot of that is focused on that at the same time when. We, when we go back and look at it, what, what caused that tragedy? What did? What did we not do as a society, to say, Bring a veteran home and be able to completely integrate them back into or bring them fully into society? And that's something where I think we as a as a society, do miss the point that where is much to I don't I want to use the word blame, but be responsible for integrating people back in because clearly, one of the things that I think is true about the military, and I don't think it's a bad thing, is that it is a particular kind of lifestyle. It's a very regimented lifestyle, and that's okay. But now, when you bring people, say, who have been to war and who have seen things back into society, there are, there is a lot more that we probably really ought to do to make sure that we're helping people get back into into the world that we're most of us are used to, and the fact that we don't understand what the world was that they were in, sort of contributes to us not really knowing how to bring them back into it.   Rob Richard ** 21:16 I agree. I agree. I think one of the things about special operations, where I worked for the past seven years, is they do a really good job of helping veterans, like, transition out of the military, whether they've had four or five years, or whether they've had, you know, 20 years, like myself, they have great programs. I told you. I completed the Honor Foundation, which was, you know, did a great service for me, helping me trans. Help Me transfer into civilian life and help me prepare for not in the corporate world, but just life in general. I think the military is getting better at that. I certainly think that our modern day era veterans were treated far better than, say, Vietnam veterans who came home. Yeah, you know, I really do believe that. I know my grandfather was a Vietnam vet, and I know there were times where, you know, he couldn't wear his uniform anywhere, or there's just people weren't treated with the same level of respect that I was. I always felt that when I came home, right, not necessarily the integration piece, but the fact that, you know, being a veteran, I always felt that I was thanked, or at least it's somewhat some way, even though it might seem patronizing that I was at the very least welcomed home and welcomed back and people appreciated, you know, whether they've experienced it or not, appreciate what I had been through, and we're very grateful for the most part, as to where in Vietnam, they certainly weren't. I think we've gotten better as a society about that. But where does that take you in, in the real and Reality of Things, right? Is it? Is it better veterans care, better mental health awareness, you know, things that I think they're working on? I certainly don't think we do a great job, in general, providing mental health for soldiers outside of special operations, right outside of the elite units that get elite care to access a lot of what military mental health care is is simply just getting you to go back to do your job, right? But when you leave the military, then the behavioral health, mental health care, it should be about getting you back to being a, you know, a human that is going to enjoy and live life to the fullest, right? So there's a difference, right? One's kind of make you a person who's going to go back to work and do is, you know, run the machines and run the papers as a as George Carlin would say. And the other is going to help you kind of be a normal human that fits into society, and that's the difference, you know? I think, well, the   Michael Hingson ** 23:25 other, the other aspect of it is that in the military, it is a very regimented sort of thing, and most of the time, there are people above you, and you realize they make the decisions, and we just carry out the orders. And now being back in the mainstream of society, you are more responsible for doing a lot of those things for yourself. And again, that's something that we need to teach people how to do.   Rob Richard ** 23:52 Again, sure. Well, I would, oh, go ahead, Michael, go ahead. No, go ahead. I was going to say I tend to disagree with that a little bit. I think people have a stereotype about military folks. You know, I you know most military people after, I said, as I mentioned before, after they hit a certain time and service a certain rank, their life is somewhat individualized. It's not necessarily a control that's a good point. Yeah, it really much is, I live in my own house. I don't live on post. I don't wake up every day and go to listen to listen to the bugle at five o'clock in the morning. You know, I think there's a misconception that soldiers are robots. When they are individuals with families, they are individuals, you know, that live lives outside of the military. Is it regimented? Yes. Is it a lifestyle? Yes. But I do think there's a misconception that the military is this completely controlling organization that has every facet of your life under control, and that's just not the case. You know, like I said, it's a it's just not really the case of how most military folks are. And there's so many great minds and artists and people that have all these great ideas that serve in the military, that are very bright and articulate and all these things. There's just a misconception about what a veteran is, I think. And I. Think that's another thing that when we tie in service and why people will and won't join, is the misconception. I mean, how many veterans do most people know? Do they have an uncle or a cousin or somebody that serves and that's something that we miss? You know, it's not exactly all the things that you see in the movie, you know, the guy on the street corner with the fatigue jacket and the one arm missing asking for money, that's that's not really most veterans. That's not really most of us. I think that's a misconception. Michael, that's just my take. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 25:24 and I, and I certainly didn't want to imply that it's so regimented that everybody's a robot, but, but I, but I, but I do think that until you get to that level that you were talking about, and I think that's a very valid point, it's probably more regimented than than a lot of people absolutely are used to. But by the same token, it still gets back to what level of support do we really give people when they when they come back, and the fact that there probably is a lot more that we could do. But you, you said something that prompts another question. And I think I'm well, I think I know the answer to this, but I'll be curious to see what you say, and that is, you're right back in the days of Vietnam veterans came home and they were they were spit on, they were not treated well, and so on. And it's a lot different today. Do you think that September 11 had a lot to do with that?   Rob Richard ** 26:20 I do. I think that people became, I was a young college student in the ROTC program, not quite in the military just yet, but I think that that event was the single catalyst to people realizing that, you know, we came together as a nation, more so than any other thing in my lifetime, ever after 911 so we came together. Now the wars that followed subsequently were very controversial, right? And they were something that divided the nation, but that particular event, you know, made the nation come together at writ large, more than any other event in history. So I think that that that kind of triggered people to be more understanding and appreciative of the military and the things that they would go do right, regardless of the political landscape, of what the wars would follow. People were very grateful. So I think 100% that 911 was a catalyst for people to be more patriotic, more supporting of the military. You know, enlistments were up. People were left and right, looking to join during that time frame, at least the first five to six years prior to the wars kind of going on, becoming quagmire, if you will. So I think so. I think you're right,   Michael Hingson ** 27:30 yeah, well, and I also think that the whole issue with the wars that followed, unfortunately, politics got much too much involved with it. So after September 11, should we have gone into Afghanistan to go after Osama bin Laden? That's one thing, but then, but then we decided to go into Iraq and go after Saddam Hussein, which was a totally different thing. And I still, yeah, and I still believe that that made no sense to do, but we did Sure, and we took our eye off the bin Laden ball, which is part of the problem. So unfortunately, politics gets too much into it and and that, in part, comes from the low bar that we have for politicians. So what do you do?   Rob Richard ** 28:19 I agree with that, yeah, we can agree on that. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 28:23 it's, it's a it's a challenge, you   Rob Richard ** 28:25 know, here's something I'll say on that, as far as I think when you serve in in I was, I'm a wreck veteran, so I've been to Iraq. I spent 15 months of my life there. And I will tell you that when you're there, you know, and I went there kind of a starry eyed sort of young lieutenant, just with the delusions of how things were going to go. So it's really a movie character on those sort of like character Oliver Stone movie, and what I saw was quite different than the reality of what I thought I would see. But I will tell you this at the end of the day, regardless of the political implications of the wars and the meanings behind them, when you have the American military machine together, right? And however chaotic it is, or however things are, I can hang my head on the fact that I was able to lead my soldiers, men and women, young people from you know, like The Rolling Stones of that great song, the salt of the earth, right? Say, say a prayer for the common foot soldier. Those were my guys, the common truck driver, mechanic and people that you know join the military for a certain purpose, whether it's money for patriotism, whatever, when asked to do this mission, regardless of its political implications, they did it. They did it well, and they did it to a level that's impressive and something that is beautiful to watch in action and that I'll always be proud of. Yeah. So if Aaron ever says, hey, you know, you serve these wars, and they're this, that and the other. I don't think when you're there, you think too much about it. That's the Coming Home part. That's the that's the thing you face later. When you're dealing with, you know, whether it's PTSD or these other sort of issues, that's when the philosophical question is to be answered. When you're there, when you're in the fight, that is. This, you doing your mission, you and your guys, the old adage, adage of left and right, that's what you're doing, and that I'm proud of, and that I can think our military did a great job. Right. Losing the war in the political sense is far different than losing the battles right in the actual militarily sense. So that's just something I hang my hat on. And I think that if we overlooked that as a society, and we overlooked that as a culture, that the wars are just this negative thing, and they were kind of, you know, excuse my language, or kind of, Bs, whatever. Yeah, we're overlooking the accomplishments of the actual people that were asked to do these things, right?   Michael Hingson ** 30:32 Well, and also well, and ultimately, let's, let's take Afghanistan. You know, we have we were there for a long time. Should we have been there as long as we were? I think that's a question that you can you can discuss and debate, but at the same time, the ultimate thing we were looking to do was to deal with Osama bin Laden, and we did that. But then we did continue to stay, and there were reasons for it. Should we have or should we have been smarter about withdrawing again? Those are all discussions that one could have. But I think that ultimately, it seems to me, you know, if people said, and people ask me, Well, did we lose the war in Afghanistan? I don't know that we lost the war, but I think the politicians didn't help but I think that the military did what they were supposed to do. I   Rob Richard ** 31:24 agree. But, you know, I the the general who said this escapes me, but it was not a 20 year war. It was a one year war fought 20 times. Yeah. So when you so you have these wars, you have a different general, a different you know, whatever it is, come in and they all have a different take on how we're going to accomplish this goal. But both those wars, whether it was the one I fought in Iraq or the one in Afghanistan, you know, they there were no real clear objectives for us. They were one year at a time, little hash marks of trying to accomplish these small goals. And we were never given a clear picture of what victory looked like, very similar to Vietnam. So I think that's, I don't think that's put on the that's not put on the backs of the common veteran. That's put on the backs of the politicians. Yeah, that was that, I was sure that's put on. I The generals too. I think so they, they owe their, you know, by that time you hit to that, that level, it's, it's a political level. And I think they're, they owe an answer to that. You know, my personal opinion, me as a retired Army officer, I think they owe an answer to that.   Michael Hingson ** 32:23 Well, we don't necessarily have the same kind of generals as we had with a patent or even a storm in Norman Schwarzkopf. You know the Sure, sure.   Rob Richard ** 32:31 Well, there's some very particular generals out there. Some good there are. But I there are, I think, I think those wars were never, never given clear, clearly defined objectives by any political figure, and that makes it impossible to what you would traditionally call a win, right? Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 32:48 I do. I do. I know exactly what you're saying, and it makes and it makes perfect sense well for you. So you joined the military. Did you think that you were going to be traveling the world and seeing 31 countries and doing all the things that that you did, or was any of that a surprise to you? No,   Rob Richard ** 33:05 I'll tell you. So when you're in college and you're ROTC, you you know, or West Point, or whatever you're, you know, I was an ROTC guys. So you have West Point, you have OCS, your different commissioning sources, you're, you're branched a certain whether it's infantry or armor or whatever, I was a transportation branch. So I thought I, you know, I got stationed in Germany, my first duty assignment. And, you know, I had two deployments to the Middle East during that time. It was about a six year stint. And I never thought that I would have this amazing fun, adventurous and it's a family show here, adventurous show. Adventurous life that I had, that that that I was given. I thought I would just end up at some base somewhere in Texas, and barbecue on Sundays, drink more lights, watch football like everybody else. I never thought I'd have this great life. I never thought I'd travel the world in Gallivan so I'm very fortunate in that way. And I just, I don't think most people picture that, but when you get your first what they call assignment, your duty station, and it's Germany, and my second one being Korea, traveling all around Asia. You know, with my, my awesome wife, I I'll tell you, I never thought I would have that, to be honest with you, that's never something that crossed my mind. That level of adventure and fun, it almost kind of mitigates some of the things that you had to go through in war. It almost makes it like they kind of balance each other out, I think, well,   Michael Hingson ** 34:19 and traveling to and traveling to Germany, of course, got you your wife.   Rob Richard ** 34:24 Yes, true, yeah. So we met. You were both soldiers, and just, you know, we, we met by by sheer chance, and that's something that I look back on, and I'm always very thankful to Uncle Sam for that. So,   Michael Hingson ** 34:34 yeah, there's, there is that. Did she stay in the military?   Rob Richard ** 34:38 No, she got out. So we, we were in Korea, and then I got stationed to go work in recruiting in Dallas. And she made the decision that, you know, I was a little bit further along, a little bit older. And she made, we made the decision that, hey, the dual military thing is very difficult. That is one of the, I think, most difficult career choices you could make, is to have two service members in especially once you hit the senior levels. And so we decided, hey, you know. I'm going to stay in, she's going to get out, and she's a very successful entrepreneur, doing very well with with some things that she's got going on. So I think we made the right choice, and she gets to be mom and be this amazing mother. So I think that's something, I think collectively, was the right decision. Well, that that worked. How old? How old are the kids? I got a nine year old, my son, Alex, and then he's about to be 10, and then my daughter, Evie, named Evangeline, after a song by the the band the Great, the band Yvonne Hill, she is six. So they're, they're still pretty young. A lot of give me, give me a handful here. Well, that's,   Michael Hingson ** 35:34 that's fine, you know. And we'll see who, who does better and who handles who better? The kids handle you guys, or you handle the kids better. We   Rob Richard ** 35:43 were on a pretty tight ship here, Michael, so at least my wife does. I'm going to push over, yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 35:49 Well, there you go. Well, but it, but it's, but it is interesting to to be able to see a lot of the world. And I, you know, I've, I've had the never been to Germany. I've been to Korea and spend some time there. And that was a lot of fun. I've been to Japan and to some places. I've been to the Netherlands, but not to Germany, when actually, in about a month and a half, no, actually about a month, I'll take my first trip to London to speak. Oh, wow. I've been to Ireland, but never to London. And then it's fun to go through the logistics of being able to take a guide dog to London and doing all the things to to clear the dog. I think it's a lot more work to get him ready to go than me, but we'll cope. Yeah, but it's, but it's, but it is fun. And I, I think there is so much value in seeing so many different places around the world and all that we can learn. I think that we take way too much for granted, and we we think that we're so much better, sometimes than than other places. And in some right, some ways, our country and our society works better, and some ways it doesn't necessarily do that, but I don't think it's my place to judge, but rather to go and learn and bring back knowledge and put it to use.   Rob Richard ** 37:04 I agree, it certainly makes you a better person as as a collective right to understand. You know, America's a great place, and I love this country dearly, but there are many things that that we can learn from other cultures. You know, we work so hard here in Germany, and I tell you about three o'clock, they take off and go have a beer and relax a little bit. You know, there's, and they still, they managed to run a very efficient society without the hustle culture that we have. And I, I am a stern capitalist. I love to work hard. But there's something to take away from that. You know, there's also, on the other side of the spectrum, in Korea and Asia, they work even harder than we do, right? So there's, there's a level of where to meet in the middle, and looking at these different cultural things. And, you know, it's just, I just very fortunate to have seen all that, and take a little bit from each one and kind of develop my own life, and these are gonna teach my children and stuff. So that's, that's great. I think I love London, too. The   Michael Hingson ** 37:54 founder of the National Federation of the Blind was a blind constitutional law scholar, Jacobus tembrick, who was at UC Berkeley, and one of the things that his wife told me, I never did get to know chick 10 Brook, but I knew his wife, and she said that he could go for long periods of time, because he would take what we now call a power nap for 20 minutes, and then he could get up and work for hours. And we don't encourage any of that, and I think it's truly unfortunate, because there's a lot of value in having a little bit of downtime that then keeps you able to keep moving a lot more than you think you might.   Rob Richard ** 38:33 No, no, I agree. I think that's something in the military they focused a few years, the past couple of years, on, which is, I don't know it's, maybe it's all for not but focusing on on sleep, you know, wellness and overall spiritual you know, thing that's going on here, trying to get everybody together in this sort of triad approach of wellness, sleep and physical fitness and stuff. And sleep is so important to being a successful leader. You know, one hour of sleep versus four makes all the difference in your decision making. Makes all the difference in your ability to lead, your ability to persevere through problems. So slaves huge, you know, even it's only four hours, yeah, well,   Michael Hingson ** 39:12 and but again, even during the day, taking a half hour and resting your eyes and then coming back gives you energy to continue, and we don't. We don't do enough of that. So I'm, I'm all in favor of exploring and and doing more to to deal with sleep and wellness and looking at other ways to help us move more effectively and more efficiently during the day. I agree. Yeah, so it makes sense well, now your career as a logistician and so on, as you said, is pretty unique. What what made it so unique, and why do you feel that that really helped shape you into what you are, and where do you think this is going to take you going forward?   Rob Richard ** 39:58 So I think a lot of times. When you are again, we talk about conditioning source. So when you go into the military, a lot of guys, they say, Okay, I want to be an infantry person. I want to be an armor guy. I want to be special forces, whatever. There's many different avenues that you can enter the military. And I think coming in initially as a transportation officer. You know, I went to Iraq, and I had these sort of experiences that, I think, again, we talk about movies, they're often overlooked, right? So I was in Iraq for 12 months. My first deployment, I was a platoon leader. I had 60 soldiers. I went on well over 60 plus missions that are, what are called convoys. So I was putting in these dangerous, arduous situations and these things that that could result in grave violence, and these sort of things that I experienced, and that my soldiers experienced, that gave me a unique out outlook on life, right? And I think that because of our underdog persona in nature, as logistics guys, you know, it's all a big wheel, and there's all these folks that make it work, right? And so as an underdog type character, and having these sort of salt of the earth type soldiers, it's given me a unique perspective on people, a unique empathy. I think a lot of military guys are kind of seen, seen as cold and stern, these sort of square jaw type characters. I don't really think I'm like that at all. It's giving me a unique perspective to grow and to be more loving and empathetic, to be a better dad. I think just serving that type of field and that type of profession is very different. It's also a little more diverse than, like, say, your standard, like Special Operations Unit, which is a lot of square jawed white guys from the Midwest, you know, as to where logistics, there's a much more diverse profile of people from all over, you know, from Jamaica or Puerto Rico, from every different state, from these, these different types of folks. And I really had a chance to just work with people who are different, who built my level of love and empathy overall. And I think being in the branch and the field that I was in really helped shape that for me. And then just, I don't think I would have had the experiences say I had been, you know, I mean, I went to airborne school when I was 38 so I did the paratrooper thing. I served in Special Operations units, airborne units, this sort of thing. And I'm honored to have been with those. But I think if I hadn't started in these sort of, like working class type units, you know, out of Germany, you know, under equipment, under trained, I really learned to persevere through things without the best of everything, right, without the best training, without the best you know, given the best tools to go accomplish, you had to accomplish more with less, right? And I think that really is a lesson that you can't really get necessarily in other fields and other branches of the military. I really think what I got assigned to do really helped me persevere through things and become a better person overall. And I don't know if that answers the question. But I think that's kind of, you know, the uniqueness of it that makes it different. And most people, again, haven't had the opportunity to travel and see the things I have. And I just think that, you know, I'm very fortunate in that realm. So I just think overall, holistically, my life has been better because of the job that I got. And to be honest with you, I mean, it's great to be an infantry guy, but a supply chain manager, professional supply chain manager, really does prepare you a little better for the corporate world. So in the end, it kind of helps you transition to the civilian thing that you can do and gain monetary advantage. So I think it all worked out. I   Michael Hingson ** 43:16 think it does probably just with the little that I know about it and understand about I think it does probably better prepare you, because the jobs are fairly similar to what you'll find in certain aspects of the corporate world, which is kind of important. And I like your idea on your analogy of doing things with less. I think a lot of us, especially for those of us who are blind, for example, and people with disabilities in general, oftentimes we have to deal with less, just because society hasn't emphasized making sure that we have alternatives that give us the same chances and opportunities as others do. So we have to deal with less like I work for accessibe. And so accessibe is a company that, among other things, helps makes websites more inclusive for for people with disabilities. Well, the bottom line is that people creating websites don't do things that they could do to make websites more usable and accessible right off the bat. And so the result is that we have to get creative in figuring out how, if it at all possible, we can use a website, and some we can't, because there's just no way, no way to have information that works. But there are also any number of websites that are accessible enough or have enough information that is a friend of mine once said, we can muddle through and make it work, but we do have to deal with those challenges, and I think it makes us better, because we face the challenges and we work through them.   Rob Richard ** 44:54 That makes perfect sense. That does Yeah. And   Michael Hingson ** 44:56 so you having to do that same sort of thing. Sometimes it it makes you a better person. It makes you probably more of a resilient person, but at least it makes you a more inventive person, because you don't take some things for granted.   Rob Richard ** 45:11 Yes, and you know, I think people when they have an idea of a soldier or a leader, I think emotional intelligence and empathy are something that people don't associate with the military. But when you're when you're a young, 24 year old lieutenant, all the way up through, you know, being a more senior officer or senior leader, you have so much of your life that is assigned and tasked to helping others and taking care of people. Their problems are your problems, right? You learn so much about the human condition through serving in the military that I don't think it can even compare in any other walk of life, you know, say, maybe being a first responder or something along those lines. But when you're with somebody in this this situation is arduous and dangerous for 12 months, you know, going on all the way through a 20 year career, you can't put a price or a value on how much experience you get of developing an emotionally intelligent approach to things, right? Some people, I think anybody who doesn't struggle with decisions as a human right, it goes through the experience of war and serving in the military. I think very rarely do you not come out of that with a real profound understanding of the human condition, right? And I don't think anything else could give you that, as far as a profession. And I think understanding people becoming more loving, it might not seem like something from a military guy to say, but loving empathy, you know, understanding the these, these folks and different types of people. I think it's a beautiful thing to be honest, you know, and I feel very cherished that I've had to have that opportunity to become a better human. Again, things aren't necessarily associated with like a military man who's straightforward and, you know, talks in a certain way. And again, some people aren't like that. Some people kind of go through, you know, self absorbed, like any profession, just about themselves. But I think a good military leader. You know, the army a leader, and particularly officers, we always eat last, right? So when I went to Airborne School at 38 years old, as an old, older guy, I was the second oldest guy in my class, the highest ranking person in my class, and so I ate after 200 soldiers, I let 200 people go in front of me, right? And that's not to be hubris or to brag about something, but that's just what you're supposed to do as a leader, to get to show that, hey, I'm here for you guys. You guys eat first, right? You always leaders, always eat last. There's that old adage. And I just think the regular world is not necessarily, the regular civilian world isn't necessarily that way, you know? And I think that's something that really made me grow as a human and to be a better person. So Well, I've always   Michael Hingson ** 47:40 felt, having worked in the corporate world, that a good boss is a boss who doesn't boss people around, who recognizes that leadership means sometimes you give up leadership to somebody else when there's a specific thing that you figure out they can do better. But also I believe that my role is to add value to each and every person who works for me, and I have to figure out with them how to add that value, but for the people who get it, it makes everyone a lot more powerful. And I mean that in a positive sense, it makes them a lot more productive and a lot more efficient. I think that that good leaders figure out how to do that, and that's important to do. Well, I wholeheartedly agree. So I'm curious about something. I keep coming back to it in my brain. So I'm going to ask in places like Israel, where everyone, at some point needs to go into the military, and goes into the military. And I understand why that happened. We don't do that here. How do you contrast, or what do you think about the contrast in those two methods of dealing with the military? Because then I asked that because you talked about the crisis, I'm not convinced that everyone should necessarily have to go in the military, but it's an interesting discussion to have.   Rob Richard ** 49:01 I kind of, I, you know, I like the way Korea does it. Korea has a societal conscription sort of program, right? So you can either join the military, you can be a paramedic, you can be a policeman. I don't necessarily think we need to go to that level, but I think there should be some general level of civic service, right? You have to have some level of commitment. And I think that not everyone, especially in our current society, is cut out to be in the army, to be in, you know, to be in the armed services, but there should be some level of civic conscription where people have to serve for maybe a year or two in somewhere. I really do believe in that. It might sound a little bit draconian libertarian, but I think it's something to look at. I think it would make people better humans. Because nowadays, like, there wasn't World War Two, there was a general understanding that we have a universal effort, that we're going forward as a nation. There was such a connection to the military service, and everyone chipped in, you know, everyone chipped in and all the time, and I don't think that really is the case. Everyone is going in their own direction. Shouldn't we're not going in a general direction. It's good for the country as a society, and without some sort of civic inscription, I don't know if that's possible people to truly understand what others go through, right? And so I agree. I think that we should have some sort of level of of civil civic service, not necessarily level of the draft, but right, not quite like how Israel does it, but   Michael Hingson ** 50:20 yeah, so, and I think that makes a lot of sense, and I think that also it's a great learning experience, yes, which is a part of what I think you're also suggesting, and I think that that makes a lot of sense, that that brings you into being a more well rounded individual as you go forward. And I think that it's important to do that, and we need to figure out some way to do that.   Rob Richard ** 50:46 No, I agree. I think that, you know, when you're in Israel, is a homogenous society, very similar. People have similar religions, similar takes. Our society, when you look at as a whole, is completely different than any other society in the world, as how different we are in the many cultures that we have in a collective approach to civil service, I think could help, I really do think could help something to unify us. Again, not quite to the 911 unification type, right, but somewhere where we can come together as society and say, Hey, we got a common purpose here. Let's go forward with it. You know, so   Michael Hingson ** 51:18 Well we, we were so unified after September 11, and I can point to specific political things that damaged that and took away from the unification and so unfortunate that that kind of thing occurred. And we have, there are other aspects. I mean, we also now have this technology where everyone has so much instantaneous access to so much information, some of which is real and some of which is false, but still the the fact is, we have access to things that we didn't before. And you mentioned World War Two, I collect old radio shows as a hobby, and I listen to many of the shows in the World War Two era, and listen to how all the actors, all the people on those shows, were part of the story that helped pull the country together, and everyone was committed. Yeah, there were challenges. Yeah, there were problems, but people really did come together for the most part, and worked because we knew it's what we needed to do, and that's the operative part. We knew what we needed to do. We needed to be unified, and if we weren't, that was a problem.   Rob Richard ** 52:36 Oh no, I agree. I think, though, there's a fine balance between unification and then a controlled narrative that takes people away from a independent free thought, right? One of the things we've gotten away from is independent free thought. There are two sides to everything. There's my side, your side, and a good collective would be great, but that you still have to have that, that approach to independent thought, right? And I also think something's missed about the military, if I could expound a little bit, is that many people in the military here are some of the world class cynics. You know, they're not necessarily these, hook, line and sinker, follow suit, type of folks. They're just the they're very aware of their situation and sort of what's going on. And they're very like, okay, is this really the deal here? You know, people are very skeptical. They're very they have a lot of free thought, a lot of independent thought. They're very politically engaged in what they think, and very go after things and have articulate points that that they clearly think of, as opposed to just like, Oh, we're all we all think the same. You know, that's a misconception about the military. We don't there are people of all different facets and walks of life and and think completely different on every issue under the sun, and that's important. So I think having a collective civic response and duty to things is great, but we start to keep our independent thought as a nation in a society.   Michael Hingson ** 53:53 I think the other part of that, though, is that we need to learn again, to be understanding of people who have a different position than we do, and we need to stop saying, Well, you're wrong, and because they think we're wrong, whoever they and we and you are. And the reality is it's it's more than just having the independent thinking ability and opportunity, but it's being able to talk about it and people who truly can, again, learn so much because you you learn to understand why people think the way they do sometimes or a lot of times. And that's important too.   Rob Richard ** 54:36 Yes, absolutely, I agree 100% so   Michael Hingson ** 54:40 logisticians are generally not part of when you watch movies and so on, they're not typically what's featured. What? Why is that? Or how do we get the logistics world a little bit more understood? And I know that that goes beyond the military, but you know, nevertheless, yeah.   Rob Richard ** 54:59 Yeah, well, so again, I think you're looking at what in this. This is to take nothing away from anyone. So when you look at most of the majority of TV shows and books, and rightfully so, I'll say rightfully so, so much of it is about special operations, yeah, frontline soldiers, what you would call, you know, in World War Two, there was a linear Battlefield, so there were two entities facing each other, face to face in a situation, but over the past 20 years, and even all going all the way back to Vietnam, they weren't linear battlefields. They were battlefields where all these support type soldiers, whether it's communicators or truck drivers, mechanics, even cooks and these other people, are combat veterans. They are facing combat. They have dangerous and arduous tales of heroics that need to be told often. You know, especially in particular in convoy operations throughout Afghanistan and Iraq. I think it's overlooked because it's well, it's not sexy, it's not what people want to see. It's not the conditioned thing of what people are supposed to see. But I think it can often be talked about in a humorous way, like we, I think you and I, we talked a little bit about mash, right? And that's about doctors, Army doctors who are support personnel and enablers. And there's a comedic approach to it. It's not all just serious, stoic, you know, movie sort of nonsense. It is a, it is a comedic approach to a real topic, and it covered it gracefully. You know, Hogan's Heroes, these sort of comedic shows that we all had, that we were elected, who understood, and that we love McHale's Navy again, another one. I think that logisticians and support folks are often overlooked because it's just not what is considered to be cool. But there are stories about war, about these brave and courageous things that people have done, and I've witnessed with my own eyes that I think is an interesting and fun story, not fun, but an interesting story that needs to be told so that legacy doesn't drift off into the wind, like the gun trucks in Vietnam, right? There was these things that were developed. A great documentary on Smithsonian about

Today's various issues are exciting, however it is hard to remember the history and perspective that got us here. Dave Smith has some observations that can help us get started on the path to common sense reactions.Follow Us:YouTubeTwitterFacebookTumblrAll audio & videos edited by: Jay Prescott VideographyClips Used: Dave Smith | People Need to be Prosecuted | Part Of The Problem 1232By: Dave SmithThree Questions that will destroy any argument with the Left | Thomas SowellBy: Thomas SowellTV

On this week's episode of Nina's Got Good News, host Nina B. Clarke is joined by her Good News VIP Guest, Dr. Alexandra Sowa! Dr. Sowa is a board-certified physician of Internal Medicine, specializing in preventive health, nutrition and obesity medicine. She is the founder of SoWell, the go-to brand for GLP-1 users, and she wrote the best-selling book, The Ozempic Revolution. Nina and Dr. Sowa discuss the growth in popularity of GLP-1's, as well as the relationship between weight-loss medications and mental health. They talk about what the future may hold for GLP-1's in America, the importance of discussing nutrition and weight with our kids, and much more. ——————— This week's episode of Nina's Got Good News is brought to you by MASA Chips! MASA are classic tortilla chips handmade with only three natural ingredients— organic corn, grass fed tallow, and sea salt. Visit them online at masachips.com, and use code GOODNEWS at checkout for 20% off your purchase. ——————— Follow Nina on Instagram: www.instagram.com/ninabclarke/ Visit Nina's blog: www.ninabradleyclarke.com Visit Nina's LTK shop: https://www.shopltk.com/explore/NinaBClarke Follow Dr. Sowa on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alexandrasowamd/ Check out Dr. Sowa's brand, SoWell: https://getsowell.com Follow SoWell on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/getsowell/ Buy Dr. Sowa's book, The Ozempic Revolution: https://go.shopmy.us/p-13380835

On this episode of the STL Bucket List Show, host Luke Farrell sits down with Jody Sowell, President and CEO of the Missouri Historical Society, to discuss the organization's ambitious campaign to preserve and share St. Louis history. With a goal of raising $36 million, this initiative is already funding groundbreaking projects, including the 1904 World's Fair exhibit, the upcoming Collected exhibit in 2025, and the citywide St. Louis Birthday Bash in 2026. The campaign will culminate in 2027 with Gallery STL, a transformative 12,000-square-foot exhibit that will immerse visitors in St. Louis' history like never before.Jody shares his passion for storytelling and his vision for how history can strengthen the community. From Thursday Nights at the Museum to the innovative New to St. Louis program, MHS is making history accessible and engaging for all. Tune in as we explore the past, present, and future of this incredible city and how these projects are shaping its next chapter.Support the show

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Claim your complimentary gift of my exclusive mini weight care guide today!Link: Weight Care Guide — Dr. Francavilla Show (thedrfrancavillashow.com)What if weight loss didn't have to be an endless cycle of restriction and frustration?For years, diet culture has pushed quick fixes and temporary results. But there's a better way—one that prioritizes lasting health without the constant struggle.In this episode, Dr. Alexandra Sowa breaks down how GLP-1 medications are reshaping weight management. As more people demand healthier food options, a cultural shift toward better eating habits is emerging.Dr. Sowa, a dual board-certified physician in internal and obesity medicine, is the founder of SoWell—a brand dedicated to supporting GLP-1 users. SoWell offers the first complete supplement system designed to address the unique needs and side effects of GLP-1 medications. If you're looking for fiber, protein, or electrolytes tailored for GLP-1 users, check out her supplements here: SoWell.Beyond her clinical work, Dr. Sowa is the author of The Ozempic Revolution, a comprehensive guide to evidence-based weight management and metabolic health. With a background in public health, a medical degree from NYU, and a passion for patient education, she blends science, compassion, and practical solutions.Dr. Sowa is leading a revolution in obesity medicine, challenging outdated weight loss narratives and helping patients make real, lasting health changes.Connect with Dr. Sowa:Book: Ozempic RevolutionSoWell Supplements: GetSoWellInstagram: alexandrasowamdWebsite: Alexandra Sowa MDConnect with me:Instagram: doctorfrancavillaFacebook: Help Your Patients Lose Weight with Dr. FrancavillaWebsite: Dr. Francavilla ShowYoutube: The Doctor Francavilla ShowGLP Strong: glpstrong.com

The struggle with impurity and fornication in our day is so fierce - as well as accepted and embraced by most of the secular culture - that those seeking purity of heart not only have to engage in the ascetic life deeply but also have to embrace a living martyrdom.  The fathers understood how powerful our natural desires can be; in particular our sensuality. They also understood the devil‘s machinations and the relentless nature of temptations that also come to us  from our own imagination and memory. What is captured for us in the writings of this hypothesis is the necessity of engaging in the spiritual battle. We must of course cling to the grace of God and engage in constant prayer. Yet knowing the devil‘s actions, we must embrace many different remedies; such as doing violence to the self and depriving ourselves of the things that the culture freely embraces.   What we heard tonight from multiple writers is the need to remember our own mortality. What we behold as beautiful and covet with the eyes quickly turns to dust. With salvation in the balance, the devil can often tempt us to give ourselves over to satisfying a passion “just once” - as if that would resolve our need. We have to understand that desire does not work in that fashion. The more that it is fed the more its longings increase.  If we could only understand this in light of our desire for God! The more that we desire him in love, the more that we pursue him through prayer, the greater our longing becomes. Soon our attachment to lesser things begins to diminish and we are freer to pursue the Beloved.  Finally, we are encouraged to look to the heroes of our faith; in particular those who wage war against this particular passion or who made the ultimate sacrifice to protect their purity. In them, we see those whose hearts belong to the Lord and to Him alone. May God give us the grace to imitate them. --- Text of chat during the group: 00:03:25 Tracey Fredman: I apologize if I'm in and out this evening. I'm on call for work and may need to in/out. 00:13:39 Anthony: Well, some of the women were looking for a female take on 6th commandment concerns...here is a lead... 00:13:56 Bob Cihak: P. 202, top of page 00:24:32 Lee Graham: Brother Sun and Sister Moon 00:24:46 Nypaver Clan: Reacted to "Brother Sun and Sist..." with

Does Uncle Snoop fail to understand why many are upset with him? Blame the edibles! Big Dank must be Lyfted in prayer, cause the car service won't do it. And our guest, Jazz, from the Was It Good Though Podcast and movie critic Michael Sowell (@jedimike7), joins us as we discuss race swapping in media. Become a Habitual Ish Talker and follow us on The App Formally Known As Twitter: twitter.com/TalkinIsh_Pod Join in on the conversation! E-Mail us at ⁠talkinishpod@gmail.com⁠ Listen to the audio version: https://linktr.ee/TalkinIshPod Check Out Jason and Jazz Movie Reviews: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT8UKy1GhNt6cqsNT3wvk-w Check Out Michael's Reviews and Interviews: https://www.youtube.com/ @Jedimike7 00:00​​​ - Intro 11:52 - Viewer Comments 21:25 - Uncle Snoop Responds... Still Gets Dragged 38:10 - Big Dank vs. Lyft 56:45 - Celebrating Hillman Tok University 1:06:50 - Round Table Discussion: Race Swapping in Media 2:11:23 - Her-Tep Corner 2:18:20 - Question of the Pod 2:36:29 - Wrap It Up, YO!!! (Closing)

Obesity isn't just a number - it's a complex issue affecting millions. Let's change the narrative with “miracle drugs” like Ozempic, Wegovy, and Zepbound. Join Dr. Alexandra Sowa, an expert in internal and obesity medicine, Founder of SoWell, and author of The Ozempic Revolution, as she reveals the truth about obesity, why losing weight can be so challenging, how GLP-1 meds work, their benefits and side effects, and what the future of obesity care holds. Subscribe to Uncover Your Eyes on your favorite podcast platform and YouTube, and learn more about Dr. Meenal on Instagram @Dr.MeenalAgarwal

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You get one shot to grab their attention. Don't waste it with characters staring off into space.You've put all this work into uncovering your character's internal arc. You know them SO WELL.When you step into a scene, you're giving your absolute all to uncovering the deep meaning and purpose behind it, the profound arc of character transformation that's happening in even the smallest moments.Yet in doing all that . . . you've lost the plot. You've crafted complex inner worlds for your characters, but all they're literally doing is staring off into space.And you're worried that in the times when you most want to hook your readers—like your absolutely critical opening pages—you're boring them instead.Bored readers put books down.So what do you do? Throw in some discord and explosions to create external chaos? Cut the scene and start the story at a different point entirely?Or is there a way to use what you know of your character's internal arc to find the perfect external action that will hook your readers and keep them turning pages?This is exactly the challenge Cathryn deVries encountered in the first chapter of her novel. So we workshopped it together—and in this episode, you'll hear how we solved it, and how you can hook your readers, too.Links mentioned in the episode:Notes to Novel with Savannah GilboRead Cathryn's scene: alicesudlow.com/76Read When a Slave Falls, Cathryn's award-winning short storyRead Lightning Hunter, a story set in the same world as the scene we workshoppedFind Cathryn on her website, Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedInSend me a Text Message!Support the showWant more editing tips and resources? Follow me on Instagram and Facebook.And if you're enjoying the podcast, would you mind leaving a rating and review on Apple Podcasts? That helps more writers find these editing resources. And it helps me know what's helpful to you so I can create more episodes you'll love!Loving the show? Show your support with a monthly contribution »

Se você tem preocupação com a censura e o acesso restrito a conteúdos internacionais, a solução é usar uma VPN. Ao buscar liberdade e segurança na navegação, use a NordVPN, que permite acessar conteúdos globais, encontrar melhores preços e navegar sem rastros. Acesse https://nordvpn.com/cafebrasil para obter um desconto e quatro meses extras grátis, além da opção de reembolso em 30 dias. No Café Brasil 961, exploramos o "Algoritmo de Sowell", conceito do economista Thomas Sowell que revela um padrão recorrente nas cruzadas ideológicas dos "ungidos". Do alarmismo climático às políticas públicas mal planejadas, vemos sempre a mesma sequência: exagero da crise, solução radical, fracasso previsível e, por fim, a negação do erro. Neste episódio, analisamos como esse ciclo se repete e por que precisamos de pensamento crítico para evitar cair nessas armadilhas. Posso entrar?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Co-Host Craig Orness interviews Ronnie Sowell, father of Iowa State wide receiver Chase Sowell. Ronnie, a former Florida University baseball player, shares insights on why Chase chose Iowa State over Florida, navigating the transfer portal process, and much more! Get your Cyclone gear at soundthecyrens.com!

Apparently, tariffs are a bad idea for all countries involved, because they raise the prices for all consumers. But maybe there is more to consider, like the politics between countries. At least the talk about tariffs makes a pretty good threat.Follow Us:YouTubeTwitterFacebookTumblrAll audio & videos edited by: Jay Prescott VideographyClip Used: Thomas Sowell warns trade wars can spin out of controlBy: Fox News

Ben Garrett is joined in this edition of ‘Talk of Champions' by former Ole Miss offensive lineman and eight-year NFL veteran Bradley Sowell. Sowell used to be the regular co-host of the podcast. He finally breaks his silence on Ole Miss' 9-3 season, as well as details his time on staff under Jeff Lebby at Mississippi State.‘Talk of Champions' is always powered by RiverLand Roofing. Text or call RiverLand for all your roofing needs: 662-644-4297. Few, if any, are doing more for Ole Miss in the NIL (name, image and likeness) space. Visit them online at RiverLandRoofing.com.Not a member of the Ole Miss Spirit? Sign up today at OMSpirit.com and get your first week for just $1!Our Sponsors:* Check out PrizePicks: https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/TALKOFCHAMPIONSAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

That's So Random!! We are back and we are wondering why Mitch McConnell has yet to be decommissioned, Jay-z's true 99th problem, and other random @$$ chats. Huge Thank Yous to  @Jedimike7 , Rico, and from the  @wasitgoodthoughpodcast5456 , Jazz for joining us. Become a Habitual Ish Talker and follow us on The App Formally Known As Twitter: twitter.com/TalkinIsh_PodJoin in on the conversation! E-Mail us at ⁠talkinishpod@gmail.com⁠ Listen to the audio version: https://linktr.ee/TalkinIshPod Check Out Jason and Jazz Movie Reviews: https://www.youtube.com/@wasitgoodthoughpodcast5456 Check Out Michael Sowell: https://www.youtube.com/ @Jedimike7  00:00​​​ - Intro 04:58 - Weekly Wellness Check 23:28 - Viewer Comments 33:30 - Mitch Glitched... AGAIN!! 43:43 - It'sa Luigi/Burger Don't Snitch/Does This Change Anything?! 1:16:14 - Jigga What?! Jigga SUED?! 2:04:27 - Question of the Pod 2:08:21 - Wrap It Up, YO!!! (Closing)

FAN MAIL--We would love YOUR feedback--Send us a Text MessageCould the future of American education hinge on historical insights and bold reforms? Join us as we promise to unravel the complexities of federal education funding and the Department of Education's journey from its inception in 1867 to its establishment in 1980. With a critical eye on the decline of teacher unions and the rise of alternatives such as charter and homeschooling, we chart a path forward for an educational system in need of urgent reform.Key Points from the Episode:We scrutinize pivotal moments that shaped federal involvement in education, including the Cold War and the National Defense Education Act of 1958, underscoring education's role in national security. Explore the rise of teacher unions during the 1960s and 70s, examining their influence on collective bargaining, student learning, and significant strikes that reshaped the educational landscape. For history buffs, our discussion offers a compelling preview of our two-part series on the 16,000-Hour War, delving into these transformative events with depth and detail.As we transition to modern education reform, we challenge the status quo by examining the critiques posed by Thomas Sowell in "Inside the American Education System." We tackle contentious issues like teacher credentialing and tenure, which Sowell argues hinder teacher quality and accountability.Our exploration includes the potential of school choice, with examples like Oakland's Catholic schools offering cost-effective alternatives to public education. We confront the inefficiencies of federal oversight, arguing for increased local control and the necessity of active civic engagement in shaping educational policies. Other resources: LM#14--16,000 Hour War,  part 1LM#14--16,000 Hour War, part 2Want to leave a review? Click here, and if we earned a five-star review from you **high five and knuckle bumps**, we appreciate it greatly, thank you so much!Because we care what you think about what we think and our website, please email David@teammojoacademy.com.

Sarah Giencke describes herself as halfway between being a Gen Y and a Gen Z. However she describes herself, she is a life-long Wisconsin person. She finally migrated to Madison Wisconsin around nine years ago.   After college she held a few sales jobs, but four years ago she decided to start her own business. Today she uses a somatic/embodiment tool called TRE®. Her work is dedicated to helping individuals & leaders reconnect back to their bodies, and to build a relationship with their nervous systems.   We have a fascinating and informative discussion about stress, trauma and the differences between them. I think that what Sarah will discuss with us is worth everyone hearing and exploring. She is the Founder of Riset Resiliency, a wellness consultancy on a mission to reduce suffering in the workplace by co-regulating nervous systems. What, you may ask, is “co-regulating”? Listen to our episode and discover for yourself.       About the Guest:   Sarah Giencke is a Nervous System and Resilience Coach, Certified in TRE® (Tension & Trauma Releasing Exercises). She is the Founder of Riset Resiliency, a wellness consultancy on a mission to reduce suffering in the workplace by co-regulating nervous systems. Her work is dedicated to helping individuals & leaders reconnect back to their bodies, and to build a relationship with their nervous system. She also helps people become trauma informed, and provides her clients with a somatic/embodiment tool called TRE®.  Through her work, Sarah educates her clients on the core concepts of the nervous system, empowering her clients with this essential knowledge. Sarah helps people reclaim power and balance over their nervous systems so that they can live less stressful and more peaceful lives - moving from being reactive towards being responsive. Having an intimate relationship to trauma, Sarah deeply understands the connection between the body's trauma response and adverse life effects - being easily triggered, hypervigilant, and experiencing physical pain. Sarah found TRE® over 4 years ago when she took a TRE® class at her gym; despite being hesitant about this strange "shaking" sensation, Sarah decided to continue down the TRE® path. It wasn't until she brought the practice into her own home, where her practice grew and where she felt the power of neurogenic tremoring.  Fast forward 4 years, Sarah is now a certified TRE® practitioner (from Red Beard Academy, in Madison, WI) who teaches others this incredible self-regulation tool. Sarah emphasises creating safety with her clients so they too can experience the power of tremoring. Sarah helps her clients gain self-agency & self-awareness - something that gets lost when we experience trauma. Clients have said that Sarah helped them create space in their lives, improving their daily lives and overall wellbeing. Outside of her work, Sarah loves to regulate her nervous system through meditation, being in nature, going for walks, journaling and playing tennis.   Ways to connect with Sarah:   Website: Risetresiliency.com Email: sarahg@risetresiliency.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahgiencke/       About the Host:   Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog.   Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards.   https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/   accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/   https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/       Thanks for listening!   Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below!   Subscribe to the podcast   If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can subscribe in your favorite podcast app. You can also support our podcast through our tip jar https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/unstoppable-mindset .   Leave us an Apple Podcasts review   Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts.       Transcription Notes: Michael Hingson ** 00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:21 Well, hi everyone, and welcome to another edition of unstoppable mindset where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected happen and meet and today, how about we get to do some unexpected kinds of things, our guest, our our conversational colleague this time is Sarah Gienke, and Sarah is, among other things that she will describe herself, is a nervous system and resilience coach, and she asked me, before we started the recording, if we could do a grounding session. I'm anxious to see what that's about. But I stole the show first by saying, I'd like to ask you, Sarah, first of all, welcome to unstoppable mindset. We're really glad you're here.   Sarah Gienke ** 02:03 Thank you so much for having me, Michael,   Michael Hingson ** 02:06 and I'd like to ask if you'd just tell us a little bit about kind of the early Sarah, growing up, and whatever you want to tell us,   Sarah Gienke ** 02:12 sure. So I was born in Bay View, Milwaukee, and lived there for about five or six years, and then we moved to Muskego. Grew up there with my two older brothers, my mom and dad, we had a beautiful backyard with some woods and the pool. So it's very natural for me to be nature inclined. So I love all things being naturey. And of course, as you can imagine, potentially growing up with two brothers, kind of a little bit of a tomboy, so wasn't afraid.   Michael Hingson ** 02:45 And then, of course, washed out for sister. Yeah, exactly, exactly.   Sarah Gienke ** 02:51 And so yeah, wasn't afraid to pick up frogs or search for salamanders. And, you know, just enjoy nature before screens were invented. Geez. You know, I identify as a zillennial. So I'm a, I'm a late millennial, very early Gen Z, kind of in this, like overlap area of a couple years. And so I wasn't born with screens. You know, in my hand, we obviously had TVs and would watch VHS, and then we moved to CDs and learned how to write cursive and and also type at the same time. And I think that is a key component into my identity, because I grew up with technology, very comfortable with it, but also I feel like I'm straddling both sides, kind of that old world and the new New World, which I don't think we're going back so got a very unique perspective.   Michael Hingson ** 03:50 I hear that more people are learning cursive again than did for quite a while.   Sarah Gienke ** 04:00 I have heard that. And I've also heard quite the opposite, that some schools are completely eliminating it. Yeah, I've heard that too. Yeah, it's kind of a, it's kind of a wild, wild scene right now, when it comes, yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 04:15 it is, I think that there's, there's value in learning how to read and write, and people should learn to do that. And I don't know whether it's totally equivalent. In some ways it is, but there's a big argument that for blind people, well, you don't need Braille anymore because you can read books by listening to them, and you you don't need Braille because there's so much available and audio and an unlimited vocabulary, text to speech on your computer. The only problem with all of that is, if you buy into that, you don't learn to read to spell, you don't learn good grammar and sentence structure. And I would think that to a degree, there is some truth to. Fact that cursive is different than just typing on a keyboard. You're learning a little bit more about your main way of communicating, which is with characters, whether they're printed or written or typed. It's value to have all of that. Oh, absolutely.   Sarah Gienke ** 05:15 I honestly have never heard anyone say that we don't need Braille. I would, I don't think I would ever say that. I think people learn different styles. So why would we eliminate that? You know, like that doesn't make sense, because,   Michael Hingson ** 05:29 unfortunately, a lot of the so called experts in the field say, Well, you got all these other means you don't need braille, and that's why Braille is only right now covering about 10% of all blind people, and it used to be over 50% literacy rate. It has dropped a significant amount. It may be coming back up a bit, but they're really mistaken, if they sell us short, and the value of learning Braille is the same as for the value of learning print and you being able to read, there are just things that you're not going to get from audio books or anything else that you will get from truly being able to read, which is what Braille permits.   Sarah Gienke ** 06:10 Yeah, and also, like the use of your imagination, right? When we read, especially non fiction, we're imagining this whole narrative and story going on in our brain. So I feel like that's a huge aspect that people would miss out on as well   Michael Hingson ** 06:24 they would, and you can get some of it from audio, but it isn't the same. You're still a little bit more limited, because you are somewhat drawn in by the reader, the narrator, as opposed to truly looking at it yourself. I spent a weekend very recently in Seattle with the radio enthusiasts of Puget Sound, which is an organization that that does a lot to preserve old time radio. And what we did was we created 18 radio shows, so I was one of the actors in some of the shows, and had a lot of really neat discussions about the concept of radio and what radio was in the 40s and 30s and 50s, until TV came along and really invaded people's imaginations, because now you really didn't get To imagine it. It's what the director and the casting people decided Matt Dillon should look like as a marshal, as opposed to what you heard when you heard William Conrad, who was the radio voice of Matt Dillon, and it was a totally different kind of image that came about. And that's true with a lot of radio versus television that you you don't get the same thing from television, because now it's what you see on the screen rather than what you imagine in your mind. So, yeah, it's interesting. That's super   Sarah Gienke ** 07:54 interesting. I did not know that you had a radio background. I That's fascinating. I mean, it makes sense. You've got such a great voice, so might as well use it   Michael Hingson ** 08:04 well. I did radio in college too, so it was a lot of fun to to do that, and didn't do a lot with it, other than using it to communicate when I did sales and other things like that after college. But it's a lot of fun and and you So you grew up chasing frogs and salamanders and all that, and did, where did you go to college? Or did you do that?   Sarah Gienke ** 08:25 Yeah, of course, I did. Well, I shouldn't say of course, because not everyone goes to college, but I did. And I actually went to UW Waukesha. So I went there, I got my associate's degree and all my gen Ed's done, partially because I wasn't ready to leave yet and be on my own, but also financially, I just didn't know going and it just made more sense. And very grateful for that experience, because it led me actually out to Madison, Wisconsin, which is where I am now. I've been out here for nine years or so, and I finished my bachelor's degree at Edgewood, Edgewood College, and that was a liberal arts degree, a liberal arts school of the Dominican branch. Not that that really matters, but it's, you know, a differentiator, I guess, for some. And I studied interpersonal, organizational communications, which really means being able to connect with people and build really great relationships when it comes to organizations   Michael Hingson ** 09:28 Cool, well, and what did you do with that? Then, when you, when you got out of college, well,   Sarah Gienke ** 09:34 I, let's see, I kind of got into the tech world. I just started going to a lot of different networking events and things, and found someone who was running a startup, and they were like, Hey, come join our team. And so I had a short stint at that organization, and then moved, and I was doing sales there, and then I moved to curate, which is another gov Tech. Company, and did sales for them for quite some time, and had another brief role at a L and D firm, kind of getting into the culture realm. And then when I was there, I really decided I wanted to pursue my certification for Tre. And I was like, You know what? I really like this, and I'm going to finish my certification and then launched my company. So here I am fully stepped into my own business and also doing some other side contracting work in the HR realm.   Michael Hingson ** 10:30 So and how do you like being an entrepreneur? Oh,   Sarah Gienke ** 10:33 gosh, you know, I feel like I've always been of entrepreneurial spirit. You know, the the term being an intra intrapreneur, and it's hard. It is not for everyone, and still, still kind of fitting into my britches, if you will, figuring out how do you maneuver being an entrepreneur. But I ultimately love it for the flexibility being able to represent myself and to pick and choose the kinds of things that I want to work on   Michael Hingson ** 11:05 well, and I think that's that's valuable and important, that you can really decide what exactly you want to do. The other thing about being an entrepreneur that I find fascinating, and I think it's one of the reasons a lot of people don't necessarily succeed at it as well as they could, is you've got to really be disciplined, especially when you're the one that is the captain of the ship. You've got to learn what a captain has to do, and you may find innovative ways to bury that, but there are still processes and procedures that you have to do as the entrepreneur in charge, if you will, and that that is something that not everyone is able to do. The whole discipline concept, yeah,   Sarah Gienke ** 11:51 for sure, it's something I'm still settling into and re redefining every day or every week, figuring out where to put my time and my energy, and how do I balance it all? And yeah, so it's definitely, definitely a change,   Michael Hingson ** 12:06 and that's okay. It's something that you'll always be doing, and it's good that you question it, and it's good that you look at it, and maybe every day, at the end of the day, kind of think, how did this go? How did that go? Was this as good as it could be? And so you will always, if you're doing it right, be looking at how you can improve the process. Or you decide this worked out really well, I'm going to stick with it and look for ways to improve it as we go forward, whatever it is, yes,   Sarah Gienke ** 12:33 exactly, exactly. And creating that path, seeing the need, and then creating something to fill that need that's there, I think is really exciting. And collaboration with others as well who are doing the work that's been something I've been recently exploring quite a bit.   Michael Hingson ** 12:51 Well, tell me a little bit more about what you do. And you said you wanted to do a grounding session, and we should do that, whatever that is all involved. So I'm going to leave that all up to you.   Sarah Gienke ** 13:00 Okay, well, um, you know, maybe we'll, we can. We'll put all   Michael Hingson ** 13:04 the responsibility on you.   Sarah Gienke ** 13:08 I'm used to it. Um, so actually, let's continue with the conversation, and sure you can close out with a grounding. I think that would be good. Well,   Michael Hingson ** 13:17 tell so tell me about tre you mentioned that, and I know it's a registered item, but tell me about Tre. What does tre stand for, and and what is it?   Sarah Gienke ** 13:30 Yeah, so tre stands for attention and trauma releasing exercises. It's essentially, very much akin to yoga. And what did? It consists of a series of intro exercises, which lightly stretch and then fatigue muscles so that we can then tap into this innate shaking modality. Its technical name is called neurogenic tremoring, which all mammals can do. If you have a dog at home, which my God, all if you do, I have a   Michael Hingson ** 14:01 guide dog who's over here, very comfy on his bed.   Sarah Gienke ** 14:05 There you go. Well, he must be very relaxed. He is. I assume you've probably seen him scared, right? Yeah. Like, what does he get scared at? Like, what are some of his triggers?   Michael Hingson ** 14:20 Well, he has a couple things. The most recent thing, he's not generally afraid of thunder and lightning and so on. But last week, we had one cloud storm cell come through that dumped a bunch of rain for about a half hour. But more important, there was an incredible amount of thunder and lightning, and I didn't really hear the thunder and lightning, so I opened the door. It was about 730 night to let him out, and he just backed up from the door and was panting very heavily and just would not go out. And I'm not going to force him, because I then heard all the thunder, and I went, Oh, I cannot. Understand that, but still that bothered him. Another thing that bothers him is we do have some smoke detectors in the house, and I'm don't know whether you have a smoke detector, but when the battery starts to run out, they chirp at you, and he doesn't and he doesn't like that either.   Sarah Gienke ** 15:14 Okay, okay, well, I don't know if at either of those stimulus or stimuli, if that makes him shake. But a lot of dogs do shake at lightning or thunder the Veiled person, and so that is the dog's natural way of discharging the stress from that trigger, right? But what has happened in humans is we have learned to suppress it. We've conditioned ourselves not to shake because we label it at it as weak or weird or vulnerable. You know, for example, when you see someone talking up on stage or even doing a podcast and they get nervous, what do we think about them? What do we label them?   Michael Hingson ** 16:00 Yeah, I hear you. We we say, well, what's wrong with you? Exactly?   Sarah Gienke ** 16:03 And so it's actually nothing that's wrong with them, no natural way of trying to rid themselves of the rush of the chemicals of adrenaline and cortisol that go through the body when we have that physiological reaction. And so what tre does is helps us come out of those states. It helps us get back to a state of safety and groundedness, which I hope to get into in a little bit perhaps now   Michael Hingson ** 16:33 we'll see. If you'd like to I will comment coincidentally, at the beginning of the pandemic, I realized, and it's been a while since we've chatted, but you may remember, I worked in the World Trade Center on September 11 and escaped with a previous guide dog who was afraid of thunder and lightning, but nothing bothered her on September 11, because it wasn't thunder and lightning, and in the building, when the plane hit 18 floors above us. It wasn't a very loud explosion, anyway. But the point of saying that is that I had spent a lot of time learning what to do in an emergency situation at the World Trade Center, and just learning all about the complex reason being, I ran an office for a company, and so it was important for me to know what to do in the case of an emergency or any any, any unexpected situation, because I might very well either be the only one in our office or there might be other people. But they rely on as sighted people looking at signs and so on, which may or may not even be available to you in an emergency situation. So it's important to really know what to do, rather than figuring, oh, I can just use the signs. And so I learned all of that, and what I discovered about me later, well, after September 11, is that, because I learned all of that, I had developed a mindset that says, You know what to do in an emergency. And so when there was one, I immediately had this mindset kick in, and other things started to happen where I observed what was going on around me. For example, someone in my office was yelling, we got to get out of here. The building's on fire. I could see fire and smoke, and there are millions of pieces of burning paper falling outside our window, and I could hear debris falling outside our window. So I believed him when he said there were burning pieces of paper falling outside the window. But I was also observing something else, namely, a dog sitting next to me, wagging her tail, yawning, going, who woke me up? I was sleeping real good here, and you guys are disturbing my rest. What's going on? And what that told me, because I was focused and had learned to focus, what that told me was, whatever's going on isn't such an immediate emergency that we can't try to evacuate in an orderly way. Didn't mean we shouldn't evacuate, but we could evacuate in an orderly way. Another way of saying, not to say, I'm not afraid, but rather to say, you can control fear. You can learn how to deal with the fear that you have and use it as a very powerful, supportive, positive tool, rather than, as I put it, blinding you or overwhelming you.   Sarah Gienke ** 19:32 Wow. What an example. I knew, of course, that you had been in the the Twin Towers when 911 happened. But yeah, you had not shared that tidbit with me before. That's that is an incredibly powerful story and skill to have, and thank goodness for your calm and collectiveness like amidst you know, one of the worst. First disasters our nation has ever faced, you made calm and you helped people get down the stairwell like that is, wow.   Michael Hingson ** 20:09 Well, and now we've written a book about it. And then the book is entitled, it'll be published in August. It's from Tyndale house, and the book is entitled, live like a guide dog. True Stories from a blind man and his dogs about being brave, overcoming adversity and moving forward in faith. And the idea is that I really learned a lot of those skills by observing and working with eight guide dogs and then also my wife's service dog when they were both alive. Fantasia. But the the idea is that dogs, for example, have a lot to teach us about teamwork, being brave and being supportive, and the very fact that we can be a lot more able to deal with fear if we are in a teaming environment and support and allow ourselves to be supported by teammates.   Sarah Gienke ** 21:03 Yeah, I love that. It's the that collective, collective mentality, instead of the individualistic one we sell off choose,   Michael Hingson ** 21:13 yeah, so same way. It's coming out in in August. It's available for pre order, and I'm looking forward to seeing how well it's received. I hope it's received well, and that lots of people will be interested in it, because I think we need to recognize that fear doesn't need to blind us, or fear doesn't need to overwhelm us. We can deal with it like with anything in our lives, if we choose to, but that's a matter of choice, and learning how to be able to make that choice work.   Sarah Gienke ** 21:47 Yeah, and well, you can count me in for a copy, because I definitely, I definitely want to read your book.   Michael Hingson ** 21:55 I'll email you, I'll email you the information about the pre ordering of it. Great.   Sarah Gienke ** 22:00 Thank you. And I'll, I'll probably end up making a LinkedIn post about this. So, oh, please. Well, I   Michael Hingson ** 22:05 hope so please,   Sarah Gienke ** 22:07 yes, of course. But what I think you're really talking about here, Michael, is resilience. You know, making that choice to not get overwhelmed, which can easily happen, and is totally okay if it happens, but the harm of it is when we are stuck in that heightened state for long periods of time, that's when we're going to experience some adverse effects or or when we experience it over and over and over and over again, what we call a theory our window of tolerance, that's going to keep getting shorter and shorter so you're going to get more triggered and triggered and not be able to move through that situation. So the work with tre is helping you increase that window of tolerance so that you can withstand more adversity without getting as triggered or triggered at all, and really remaining in control over your emotions,   Michael Hingson ** 23:09 which makes perfect sense, and it's kind of what we've been talking about. And the fact is, you can do that. What's the difference between stress and trauma? You make a distinction between the two, yeah, and talk about how they can both be stuck in our bodies and so on which, which is, of course, getting back again to what you're talking about with tre but yeah, I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.   Sarah Gienke ** 23:29 So I think of stress and trauma as kind of a continuum. On one side we have stress, and on the other side we have trauma, and as things increase in intensity, or over time, we're going to experience trauma. But to kind of give the listeners here a very concrete explanation, I actually, I actually Googled this, and this is what chat generative AI came up with, with which I thought was really interesting. Stress is a natural human response to the mental or physical tension caused by a difficult situation. It can be a one time occurrence or happen repeatedly over a period of time. Stress, though, this is the key differentiator, is that it can be positive or negative. It can motivate you to achieve those goals and get out of your bed and light a fire under your butt in the morning, or it can cause you to lose sleep. That what we would call the eustress, which is good stress, versus distress, which is bad stress. And we really want to teeter right in the middle there, where we're not dipping too far into one way or the other, because if we don't have enough stress, we're going to just kind of lay around and not do much. But if we have too much, we're going to go completely overwhelmed and most likely shut down on on the other side of the spectrum. So trauma is defined as a distressing or disturbing event that increases our lack of personal. Control. So, like we were talking about before losing control over emotions, it can and most, most definitely leaves an impression on us, kind of like if you were to put your hand into some Play Doh and then take your hand back, that impression is still there. And so it can be, really any experience that overwhelms one's normal coping mechanisms, and it leaves the person feeling helpless. And one key differentiator for me is when someone is talking and they talk about their life as like a pre or a post, that's a huge different. That's a huge key indicator that they've experienced some trauma, which obviously, with you going through 911 that's a huge trauma that you've experienced. And I don't know if you want to get into that on this call, but I would personally be curious to learn, like, what was that experience like, and what did you do to heal yourself?   Michael Hingson ** 25:59 What's really funny about your question is my answer. Ironically. You know, we always hear about the media and how obnoxious they could be and all that, but soon after September 11, the media heard about my story, and I started getting phone calls and asked to be interviewed and so on, and I talked with my wife about it, and she was probably a little bit more skeptical than I, but I'm the guy who was professionally selling in the family, so I thought I could deal with it. We agreed that if it would help people move on from September 11 at the time, if it would help people learn more about blindness and guide dogs, and if it would help people maybe understand that they could deal with these kinds of things, and I would allow the interviews to happen. The other part about that was that it also then led to people beginning to call me and asking me to come and talk about September 11, and not only that, but to talk about other topics that I have expertise in, and I still do that today. So I'm always looking for speaking opportunities. So anybody out there who is listening, who needs a speaker, love to chat with you. But for me, like with anyone, I think when you have something happen to you, or you're facing some situation, there's always value in talking about it. And for me, getting so many interviews, literally hundreds, with the most intelligent questions to the most asinine, inane questions that you can imagine, and having to answer all of them without getting upset, that was probably the thing that helped me the most, because I allowed myself, and I put myself in a position to talk about it,   Sarah Gienke ** 27:50 yeah, like externally, externally processing it, yeah. That makes total sense.   Michael Hingson ** 27:55 Yeah. Because I think anyone who is in a in any kind of a situation, or even if you're looking for a solution to a problem, there's a lot of value in collaboration and not taking the position well, only I can solve this, nobody else can. You don't know that. But more important collaboration, teamwork, trust or just talking it out never hurts.   Sarah Gienke ** 28:25 Yeah, that's so true, and that's what I mentioned earlier, is collaborating with others, right? Seeing it in perspective, I I kind of want to, like, bring your question and something that you just said now together. So okay, you were asked earlier, like, how does trauma get or stress get stuck and stored in our body? Well, when we don't process it, it stays within us. So we have something called the stress response cycle, where, if you think of a circle at the top, we're calm, or what we call homeostasis, maybe you're in like the state, the formal state called ventral vagal, which is ease and calm, and you're experiencing joy. And then if you move to, you know, one side of the circle, you're going to encounter the trigger, or that external stimulus that's got you kind of little bit riled up. And then you continue along the circle to the bottom, where then you're going to experience one of the the stress or trauma responses. We've got fight, flight, freeze or fun. And then if you continue to close the loop, we would move back to calm, you know, letting the body settle down. But as I had alluded to earlier, lots of us get stuck in that response state. So I'd be curious, did you feel any like physical ailments or anything kind of develop as a result of your experience in 911 or with 911   Michael Hingson ** 29:53 No, actually, I did not. The only thing that happened to me, really was walking down. And basically mathematically, we calculated roughly 1400 63 stairs at least going down the next day. I was as stiff as a board, and was really stiff for a week. So I was glad that we had built an accessible home for my wife, because she was always using a wheelchair. She was born with scar tissue on her spinal cord. So she was paralyzed from like right below the breasts on down so she could drive and so on. But she used a chair, and so we put an elevator in the home, because it had to be where we were building. Had to be a two story home. I used that elevator for a week, a lot more than she did. So because I couldn't go up, I couldn't walk upstairs or downstairs, and my office was in our basement. My home office was in our basement. So that that was a, I think it was that the adrenaline wore off, and the next day, as I said, I was stiff. And was stiff for about a week. She said, you walk like an old man. So,   Sarah Gienke ** 30:57 geez, I could only imagine. I mean, yes, obviously, like the physical exercise of going down that many stairs like, you know, after a gym session, gym session, even, you know, we're a little little tight or or sore the next day or two, but, but what I'm almost, I'm speculating here is that could have have happened to you, or, you know, many others, is when you experience that we tense up like our entire body, and so that is actually what inhibits us from being able to tremor, to release it. So, you know, there's like this unthawing process that happens with clients and people that explore this modality so that we can actually get to the place where we experience the tremoring. That's why we stretch and do these light exercises, so you can tap into it. Otherwise, we're just going to tighten up and forget about it. Well, the   Michael Hingson ** 31:54 other thing is, and people have asked me, Did you feel survivor's guilt or anything like that, a remorse? And the answer is, I have to say no. And the reason I didn't was because I realized pretty early on that, like with the media starting to be interested, and people started to call and saying, Would you come and speak? And then we made the decision for me that speaking was a whole lot more fun, and selling life and philosophy was a whole lot more rewarding than selling computer hardware. And so I chose to do that starting at the beginning of 2002 although I did a speech or two before even then. But the bottom line is that I realized that there's something that I should do with my life because of what happened. And I think it's important that in anything that we do, in any situation that we face, the reality is that we may not have had control over that situation happening. And I'm not convinced today that we could have predicted September 11, I'm not sure that there was enough data ever produced that would have allowed us to figure it out. I don't know, but that's my thought. But we always have control over how we deal with what happens to us, and that's the issue,   Sarah Gienke ** 33:16 yeah, well, I gotta say I think you're one heck of a resilient guy. I mean, I don't know, I haven't interacted with a lot of 911 survivors, but I will say, and I will bet, that a lot of them probably are not as resilient as you, as you are, and maybe it is due to your blindness and having having to be resilient already that you were just, you know, more capable to handle that experience. I don't know, but, yeah, it's sure an inspiration. That's for sure. Well, I   Michael Hingson ** 33:52 hope that that it helps people. And one of the reasons that we wrote live like a guide dog that'll be coming out is hopefully even during this election year, people will read it and take a step back and think about what's going on and not let those who want to promote fear blind us to making more intelligent decisions, whatever that happens to be. We don't take enough time at the end of the day, or at the beginning of the day to analyze our own lives, and I'll take at the end of the day. We don't take enough time to just even while we're lying down getting ready to fall asleep, going How did it go today? What worked? What didn't work? Why did I react this way to this or that, could I have done it differently? And self analysis is something that can help lead to learning a lot more about controlling the fear reactions of the other things that we face and how we deal with them.   Sarah Gienke ** 34:58 Yeah, absolutely. Self awareness. Progress. And through self awareness, we explore things to help us self regulate meaning, regulating over our emotions and how we're reacting to things, and then ultimately getting to a place of self agency, you know, having that discipline and and regaining that back, which often gets lost when we experience hardships. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 35:25 what can people do to relieve stress? What are the kinds of things that the body needs? Really? I think we've talked about that a little bit, but yeah,   Sarah Gienke ** 35:32 there are so many different ways to relieve stress for your body, or AKA, self regulate your nervous system. Some of my favorite things to do, even since being a little girl, is being in nature. I just feel so connected to the earth when I step outside. And whether that's going for a stroll locally here or going up north and being surrounded in the in the woods, people can dance. Dancing is a huge way to release stress from the body and also have a creative outlet to express what you might be experiencing. Others might rely on adjacent techniques to tre such as like tapping or the EFT Emotional Freedom Technique where people tap in different areas to release. I am excited to explore that more myself. I haven't quite yet.   Michael Hingson ** 36:29 We did a podcast on that a few weeks ago. Oh,   Sarah Gienke ** 36:32 well, then perfect. I'll have to give a lesson. And so, yeah, like I said, there's a there's so many different ways to regulate yourself and to kind of continue on that list, breath work, also singing. I think people don't know this, but singing or humming is an excellent way to stimulate what we call the vagus nerve. So that's a bundle of nerves in our nervous system that really controls a lot of things. And so when we hum or we sing, that vibration touches on that bundle of nerves and brings us down into states of groundedness, connection, etc. So I don't know if you've ever been in choir, but I'm also a huge, huge choir fan or choir nerd, and so I always wondered, how did I get through school? School is extremely stressful, whether it's high school or college, and I was singing. I was singing for like, almost two hours every day, and so I think that was a huge way for me to come back down and to also feel connected to others. So yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 37:35 yeah. Well, I like, I like to sing, and I've always enjoyed karaoke, no less. But by the same token, just singing for myself, whether anyone else is around or not, it is a good way, and we do need to do things to take our minds off of the things that we think are stressful, which may or may not really be stressful at all. I think it was Mark Twain who said, or one of the people who said, The problem with most of the things that we're afraid of is they're never going to come through and come true anyway. Yeah,   Sarah Gienke ** 38:08 well, that sounds like that's a nervous system that's heightened, that's in hypervigilant state, looking for all the possible outcomes and mostly negative things, if we're being transparent of how things could turn out, which is just such an icky way to live, and I know exactly what that's like.   Michael Hingson ** 38:28 Well, one of the lessons that we talk about and live like a guide dog comes from Roselle, who was the guide dog who was with me in the World Trade Center, and after September 11, like a day or two later, I called the veterinarian department at guide dogs, and I said, is any of this? Because they, by that time, had learned that I was in the complex we let them know. But I asked, How will all this affect Rozelle? And the response was, did anything threaten or hurt her specifically, like did a brick come at her and hit her or anything like that? And I said, No, absolutely not. They said, well, then nothing. When we got home that night, I took her harness off and I was going to take her outside, but she would have none of it. She went to her toy box, got her favorite tug bone, and started playing tug of war with our retired guy dog, Lenny, and the two of them just played for a while. Roselle didn't even need to go outside. But the point was, it was over for her, and what the veterinarian said was, it's over. Dogs don't do what if? When something like that happens, they may react if something directly affects them, but it still is, they don't do, what if it's a particular situation. But in rose L's case, there was nothing. So dogs don't do what if, and we spend so much time, what if, in. That it drives us crazy.   Sarah Gienke ** 40:03 It really does. I feel called out here, but it's true, and I think that's that's really has to do with their prefrontal cortex. So like the front of their of their brain, humans have different prefrontal cortexes we've evolved to have it be much more complex. And so yeah, dogs kind of, they're just in the present moment. They're like, alright, yeah, like you said, it's over, and now I'm here playing with my with my bestie, yeah, yeah, you   Michael Hingson ** 40:38 you sound like though you've experienced some of these things that have been, what if creators and so on. Oh,   Sarah Gienke ** 40:44 totally. I mean, I think that's part of the human experience. And through, through nervous system regulation and through techniques like meditation and mindfulness, we can really rewire our brains and our bodies to not live in that fear state, to live in a live and work from a place of groundedness, centeredness, openness, curiosity, and I think ultimately, when you're in that type of energy, you're attracting, you're attracting things to You, instead of being more negative and being fearful and like pushing things away, yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 41:24 what kinds of things would you suggest to recommend to help regulate our nervous system and deal with some of these issues that we are talking about?   Sarah Gienke ** 41:34 Yeah, so as I had mentioned before, you know, getting out in nature and walking, um, exercise can be good for for that meditation, breath work, tapping and then, you know, obviously, I'm a huge advocate for Tre. I think tre gets to the root of things quite quickly, and it has a tremendous impact, not just from your first time on, but compounding. Just like any kind of self care ritual that we would do, when we do it over time and continuously, we're going to see exponential growth, especially if we layer it with other things. So if you're going to therapy or things like that, and you're layering it with tre or breath work or tapping, I think that there's a magic combination for all of us that we have to kind of explore and discover the different things that work for our bodies. Because I tell you, I say to people, you know, tremoring, everyone can tremor but tremoring is not for everyone. And what I mean by that is not everyone's ready to do this deeper work, you have to be ready to meet yourself at those deeper levels. So if you're just kind of getting on that healing journey or self regulation nervous system journey, I'd say start with something a little lighter, like try, try mindfulness techniques or meditation, something like that. Dip your big toe in. Don't you jump right into the bath right away.   Michael Hingson ** 43:03 Yeah, there's no need to do that. But you know, what do you say to the person who says, Oh, I don't have time to do any of that. I'm too busy. I've got too much stuff to do. I've got to get these projects done, and so on and so on and so on. Yeah,   Sarah Gienke ** 43:19 gosh, I get it, because I even struggle with that, with my own self sometimes, you know, we're human. We've got a lot on our plates, and I think it's a couple things. One, it's knowing that in order to go fast, we kind of need to slow down. It's just like when we were in college and you pulled an all, all nighter to study for your exam, and then you show up to the exam and you're exhausted and you don't remember anything, versus, you know, at midnight or whenever you went to bed, just closing the book and saying, You know what, I did the best that I could, and I'm going to go to sleep, and you're going to wake up much more refreshed. And so that same kind of concept applies to this work, is knowing that we need to slow down so that we can show up and be fully our best selves, for ourselves, for our partner partners, for our our kids, our employees, our workplace. So it's, it's that, and then also on the flip side is, if you just keep going and going, you're gonna, you're gonna hit a wall at some point and potentially reach burnout. So the analogy that I like to give that's very common in this world is that our nervous systems are like a car, and so what we're trying to do is find the optimal speed for ourselves, for our bodies. So what kind of pace Are we moving at internally? And so our sympathetic nervous system, which is one side, is the gas pedal. And if we're on that gas pedal, you know, pedal to the metal all the way, we're going to run out of gas. That car is going to start to run. Down, and eventually you're going to be on the side of the road asking for help. So basically, it's really about prevent, preventing that and and bringing in some of the other side, which is the parasympathetic nervous system, which is the rest and digest. That's the the brake pedal. We don't want to be fully on break, because then we'll just be going nowhere. But we want to, we want to find that optimal range where it feels really good.   Michael Hingson ** 45:28 And the reality is, each of us have our own gifts, and the gifts that you have are not necessarily the gifts that I have, which are not necessarily the same as someone else has, and no one should be criticized for the gifts that they have or don't have.   Sarah Gienke ** 45:48 Absolutely, absolutely,   Michael Hingson ** 45:52 yeah, and it happens too often.   Sarah Gienke ** 45:54 It does, and also knowing that no one's perfect and that if that's a skill you want to work on, great, you've acknowledged that, and now you can take a step forward to work on the skill that you want to work on. In this example, it's regulating your nervous system.   Michael Hingson ** 46:16 What is CO regulation? And why is that an important concept?   Sarah Gienke ** 46:19 Oh, that's a great question. So when we are babies and we fall down and we scrape our knee, and our parents pick us up and they coddle us, and they soothe us from crying and screaming out in pain, they are co regulating with us. They are helping us calm down, get back to that centered state Petrova once again. And so we keep doing that over and over and over again. And through that, we learn to be able to self regulate on our own. And that's the work that that I do with clients, is helping them through co regulation with me learn how to get to self regulation. Because, unfortunately, even though that's how we're supposed to learn self regulation through our parents, a lot of us have not learned that, and that's, I think, just partially a generational thing. I think there's a whole change and shift, as I was mentioning earlier with Gen Z prior to pressing record, that is really taking accountability for how we're showing up and how we're interacting and so a huge part of that is that self regulation. So both are essential to create safety, especially in groups, in communities, in workplaces. You know, for example, our, you know, our nervous systems are, always, are, always are tuning to one another, like when a boss comes into a meeting and they're all fostered and uptight and just huffing and puffing. You can feel that that is tangible energy, and they are not in a regulated state. And so when our nervous systems can kind of talk to one another and one's remaining, remaining grounded, not also getting heightened, then we can calm, we can help calm each other down. So it's kind of like this concept of taking care of one another in a community context.   Michael Hingson ** 48:22 You know, one of the things I hear a lot, and I think I've said it myself, is that today, we seem to have so many more people who have no boundaries, and they just think they they own the road or whatever the case happens to be. I don't know whether that is really true, but it seems like it is all too often today, more the case that things that we would never have thought of doing and would never do years ago, people do all the time. Now. Do you think that's really true, that people have less boundaries, or they haven't learned how to regulate or look at different points of view. Is that a gender or not gender, but a generation issue or anything like that?   49:10 Well, that's   Michael Hingson ** 49:11 is that a very open question? Yeah,   Sarah Gienke ** 49:13 yeah. It's a very nuanced question, because, like anytime we talk about a population of people, we don't want to just generalize because one fits into that box. You know, there may be some overlapping or overarching, I should say, characteristics or similarities that you find, but, yeah, we want to be careful when we're talking about groups in general. So I I would actually say that people are getting more boundaries. I think that there's some generations before us that necessarily didn't have boundaries. It was self impression too, that was taught. You know, boundaries were more porous. But. Younger generation as much as they want to, as much as they are seen, sometimes as challenging or X, Y and Z. I think they're really resetting, not to plug the name of my business, but they're resetting the threshold in which how we show up in the world, what our boundaries are, regulating our emotions, being able to then have an important conversation with people, um, instead of just avoiding or brushing it under the rug. So that's kind of my take on it. What do you what do you see? That's   Michael Hingson ** 50:34 my impression, too, and that's what I've actually heard from from people that younger people maybe have really started to realize and are catching on to having boundaries, having values, being a little bit more methodical about what they do and that they're and that older people and people will classify me as that arena, since I'm 74 probably had boundaries. But there's that middle ground, or that middle set of people that that didn't really and haven't really dealt with boundaries, maybe as appropriately as they should, and how that will affect things other than the younger generation is catching on and seeing it and doesn't like it, but, but I agree with   Sarah Gienke ** 51:24 you, yeah, and I think we could substitute the word boundaries and for trauma, because ultimately, what it really comes down to is that self inner work, because what's happened prior is Just passing on trauma through behaviors, but also genetically. And so it finally has come to a point in the time where we're like, No, we're not going to continue these behaviors. We're not going to continue to pass this on. We're going to face it and we're going to process it through the work that I do with clients or and other other modalities that I mentioned, so that we can then ultimately move forward coming from our authentic selves, instead of coming from a trauma response, such as being a people pleaser or being angry all the time, because that's not really who we are. That's coming from a place of that fright, of having to protect ourselves, and like I can only imagine a world where we are all regulated and showing up as our authentic selves. I can't even imagine, like, what greatness would come from it, collaboration and invention and, yeah, just all those awesome things that we're constantly trying to strive for.   Michael Hingson ** 52:39 And someday, maybe we'll get there,   Sarah Gienke ** 52:42 maybe. And that's okay that we're not there yet, because my mission is to help reduce that suffering one person at a time by helping co regulate with them. So Well,   Michael Hingson ** 52:55 tell us more about your business reset and what it is, and how you do, what you do, and so on.   Sarah Gienke ** 53:02 Yeah, so reset, resiliency, wellness, consultancy, and what I do is I help people reconnect back to their bodies, back to their nervous systems, teaching them about their nervous system, giving them very essential information that I think we should be learning in schools, but we are not. And also really providing them with trauma, informed knowledge and a somatic embodiment tool that we mentioned before called Tre. So really that's what I do, is I teach people, I educate them, and then provide them with something which I guide them through over several weeks, and then I kind of set them free, because my goal is not to work with people forever, which is kind of contrary to a lot of business ideas. However, because of my my history and my path and my story, I know the importance of, kind of like going through that graduation piece, of getting that self agency back so that you don't have to rely on anybody to do this work. You have this tool in your toolbox for the rest of your life, and it's quite transformative to say to say it in a small way. So   Michael Hingson ** 54:14 where do your clients come from?   Sarah Gienke ** 54:18 My clients come from referrals, a lot of word of mouth, and they come from me, messaging people on LinkedIn and posting on social media, and working on having I'm working on having a better SEO as well, but I getting website visits and, um, also just really providing people information and showing them the importance of this work, and then being attracted to me,   Michael Hingson ** 54:53 you do a lot of the work virtually.   Sarah Gienke ** 54:56 Yes, I do virtual work, and I also do in person work as well. So. I currently teach in person classes at home yoga in Madison, and I do my in person sessions there as well. And then, yeah, anyone that's not in that vicinity, we meet virtually,   Michael Hingson ** 55:16 that's cool. So that if people want to reach out to you, they certainly can do that. And I would assume that you can interact with people virtually, that you don't need to necessarily have them right there on the spot with you.   Sarah Gienke ** 55:30 Yes, you certainly can do this work virtually. I've worked with handfuls of clients virtually. I also like in person as well. But it really just boils down to location and where you're at. And either way, we're going to have a great program together and get you this tool and teach you this tool   Michael Hingson ** 55:53 so you've been doing this business. So first of all, reset is spelled, how, R, i,   Sarah Gienke ** 55:59 s, e, t, so just check I actually thought of it when I was meditating one day. I was thinking about the words rise and set, and then they kind of just overlapped. And I was like, wow, that is clever e to the i and b, rise and set. And so that is a nod to polyvagal theory, which is really the theory that all my work is based off of, which is how our nervous system we get triggered, the sympathetic comes on, we rise up and then helping people settle back down. So that's why the the logo is in kind of an arch, or kind of like a curve. It's also mimicking that what   Michael Hingson ** 56:41 kind of people typically would come to you? Maybe another way to put that is what who are? Who is Tre, really, for   Sarah Gienke ** 56:52 my teacher of Tre, always joke tre for anyone who's stressed tends to traumatized. Oh, there we   Michael Hingson ** 56:59 go. That's a few people on the planet. Yeah, right,   Sarah Gienke ** 57:02 but I will say who I tend to work with is, I do work with men, but I tend to work with more women than men, but it's really those people who are in transition in their lives. So I've, for example, worked with a woman who was in a sales job, she just wanted to absolutely, you know, just not do that. It wasn't, it wasn't fulfilling her. And so she was in a huge transition, and she ended up through our work, it helped. It helped her create time and space, and allowed her to then launch her own business and go after her own dreams. I've also worked with a another male who was working at a coffee shop, and he decided, You know what, I think I want to be the next owner. And so he was going through some huge transition there, and while we were working together, you know, decided to move forward with the sale. And now he's full owner of that coffee shop, stepping into his dream. So I think it's kind of tapping onto that, tapping into that authenticity and not being scared and letting our hindrances hold us back, but rather feeling coming from a place of calm and ease and authenticity and moving through that   Michael Hingson ** 58:23 and really thinking about it and recognizing that sometimes it's okay to step out and take a chance, but do it wisely. Don't just do it arbitrarily.   Sarah Gienke ** 58:33 Yeah, definitely, you definitely want to have some thought put into it. And, yeah, that's that can take some time. But I do ultimately think that it's worth a chance. Um, it's worth a opportunity. You have one life, and you might as well step out and try. I'd rather say, Oh, well, that didn't work then. Well, I don't know if that ever would have worked. That's the kind of camp that I'm pet. I'm in so   Michael Hingson ** 59:01 well you don't know until you try or study on it. Yeah, exactly.   Sarah Gienke ** 59:07 And then I also just wanted to mention too that I will be coming out with some courses soon as well. And so those aren't really aimed for leaders and organizations to become more trauma informed, and so you don't have to have experienced trauma to go through this. I think that this is work. This is literally what I think is the future of our workplaces, pretty much leadership, 2.0 if you will, and helping leaders understand and have more self awareness of themselves and how they come across and how they might have some conditioning around their past experiences and how they show up, but also understanding for their employees and what might be coming up from them or or how we're interpreting things. You know, for example, someone showing up late, well like. Get curious around that instead of just jumping into conclusions.   Michael Hingson ** 1:00:04 Yeah, all too many people probably don't take enough time to necessarily understand the people around them, especially those that they lead, and really get to know them and recognize them for who they are and what they can do. But that doesn't work unless you really take the time to to learn about them   Sarah Gienke ** 1:00:26 exactly. It's all about really relationships. So a lot of trauma is relational. It's on that one to one context. So understanding those dynamics and understanding all the pieces that come into play is going to make you such a better leader. Um,   Michael Hingson ** 1:00:48 yeah, yeah, by by any definition. Well, if people want to reach out to you and and maybe explore working with you and you helping them, or just understand more about what you do, how do they do that? Yeah, yeah, they can or learn about your new courses coming out soon. Yeah, I'm huge   Sarah Gienke ** 1:01:05 on LinkedIn, so you can follow me there. I post a lot of content. My name is Sarah ginky, G, i, e, n, C, K, E, you can also email me at Sarah at reset, resiliency.com, so after the at sign it's R, i, s, e, t, R, E, S, I, L, i, e, n, C, y.com, or you can click on my website, reset, resiliency.com, book an intro. Call with me. I'd love to learn more about what's going on in your life and see if this modality can can help you.   Michael Hingson ** 1:01:39 Well, I hope people will reach out, and I hope that people who listen and watch learned a lot today. I did, and so did I. I value that a lot. I value getting the chance to learn different things from people. So I want to thank you for for being here and for doing this, and certainly any of you out there, we'd love to hear from you and get your thoughts on what we did today, please feel free to email me. It's Michael M, I, C, H, A, E, L, H, I at accessibe, A, C, C, E, S, S, I, B, e.com, or go to our podcast page, which is w, w, w, dot Michael hinkson.com/podcast, and Michael Hinkson is spelled M, I C, H, A, E, L, H, I N, G, S O n.com/podcast, so please, love to get your thoughts. Really would appreciate you reviewing our podcast, especially we love five star reviews, so please do that, and we want to hear from you, and I know that Sarah would like to hear from you as well. So we hope that that will all happen, and Sarah for you and anyone listening, if you know of anyone else who ought to be a guest on unstoppable mindset, love to hear from you, and anyone who you think ought to come on, please just email and introduction, and we will always respond to that. I believe everyone in the world has stories to tell, as Sarah has proven today, right?   Sarah Gienke ** 1:03:10 Thank you, and just so grateful to be on this podcast with you, Michael, you have such an incredible story and such an inspiration. So thank you. Well,   Michael Hingson ** 1:03:22 thank you for being here, and we'll have to do it again sometime. All right, sounds   1:03:26 like a plan.   Michael Hingson ** 1:03:33 You have been listening to the Unstoppable Mindset podcast. Thanks for dropping by. I hope that you'll join us again next week, and in future weeks for upcoming episodes. To subscribe to our podcast and to learn about upcoming episodes, please visit www dot Michael hingson.com slash podcast. Michael Hingson is spelled m i c h a e l h i n g s o n. While you're on the site., please use the form there to recommend people who we ought to interview in upcoming editions of the show. And also, we ask you and urge you to invite your friends to join us in the future. 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In this electrifying episode of Connecting the Dots, I sat down with Jon Jeter—two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist, former Washington Post bureau chief, and Knight Fellowship recipient—who pulled no punches as we unraveled the hidden dynamics of America's class war. Drawing from his explosive book Class War in America, Jeter revealed how the elite have masterfully weaponized race to keep the working class fractured and powerless, ensuring they stay on top. He delves into the ways education is rigged to widen inequality, while elite interests tighten their grip on public policy. With gripping personal stories and razor-sharp historical insight, Jeter paints a vivid picture of the struggle between race and class in America and leaves us with a tantalizing vision of a united working-class revolution on the horizon. This is an episode that will shake your understanding of power—and inspire you to see the potential for change.   Find me and the show on social media. Click the following links or search @DrWilmerLeon on X/Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Patreon and YouTube!   Hey everyone, Dr. Wilmer here! If you've been enjoying my deep dives into the real stories behind the headlines and appreciate the balanced perspective I bring, I'd love your support on my Patreon channel. Your contribution helps me keep "Connecting the Dots" alive, revealing the truth behind the news. Join our community, and together, let's keep uncovering the hidden truths and making sense of the world. Thank you for being a part of this journey!   Wilmer Leon (00:00:00): I'm going to quote my guest here. We've been watching for a while now via various social media platforms and mainstream news outlets, the genocide of the Palestinian people, what do the images of a broad swath of Americans, whites and blacks, Latinos, Arabs and Asians, Jews and Catholics and Muslims, and Buddhists shedding their tribal identities and laying it all out on the line to do battle with the aristocrats who are financing the occupation. Slaughter and siege mean to my guest. Let's find out Announcer (00:00:40): Connecting the dots with Dr. Wilmer Leon, where the analysis of politics, culture, and history Wilmer Leon (00:00:46): Converge. Welcome to the Connecting the Dots podcast with Dr. Wilmer Leon, and I am Wilmer Leon. Here's the point. We have a tendency to view current events as though they happen in a vacuum, failing to understand the broader historical context in which many of these events take place. During each episode, my guests and I have probing, provocative, and in-depth discussions that connect the dots between these events and the broader historic context in which they occur, thus enabling you to better understand and analyze the events that impact the global village in which we live. On today's episode, the issue before us is again, quoting my guest. When the 99% come together to fight for one another rather than against each other is the revolution. Na, my guest is a former foreign correspondent for the Washington Post. His work can be found on Patreon as well as Black Republic Media, and his new book is entitled Class War in America. How The Elite Divide the Nation by asking, are you a worker or are you white? Phenomenal, phenomenal work. John Jeter is my guest, as always, my brother. Welcome back to the show. Jon Jeter (00:02:07): It's a pleasure to be here. Wilmer. Wilmer Leon (00:02:10): So class war in America, how the elites divide the nation by asking, are you a worker or are you white? You open the book with two quotes. One is from the late George Jackson, settle Your Quarrels, come together, understand the reality of our situation. Understand that fascism is already here, that people are already dying, who could be saved that generations more will live. Poor butchered half lives. If you fail to act, do what must be done. Discover your humanity and love your revolution. Why that quote? And then we'll get to the second one. Why that quote, John? Jon Jeter (00:02:50): That quote, really that very succinct quote by the revolutionary, the assassinated revolutionary. George Jackson really explains in probably a hundred words, but it takes me 450 pages to explain, which is that the ruling class, the oligarchs, we call 'em what you want. Somewhere around the Haymarket massacre of 1886, I believe they figured out that the way that the few can defeat the many is to divide the many to pit it against itself, the working class against itself. And so since then, they have a embark on a strategy of pitting the working class against itself largely along, mostly along racial or tribal lines, mostly white versus black. And it has enveloped, the ruling class has enveloped more and more people into whiteness. First it was Italians and Germans and Jews, or Jews really starting after World War II and the Holocaust. And then it was gays and women, and now even blacks themselves have been enveloped in this sort of adjacency to whiteness where everyone sort of gets ahead by beating up, by punching down on black people. And so George Jackson's quote really sort of encapsulates the success that we, the people can have by working together. And I want to be very clear about the enemy is not white people. The enemy is a white identity. (00:04:48): Hungarians and Czech and the Brits and the French and the Italians are not our enemy. They are glorious people who have done glorious things, but the formation of a white identity is really the kryptonite for working class movements in this country. Wilmer Leon (00:05:07): In fact, I'm glad you make that point because I wanted to call attention to the fact that a lot of people listening to this and hear you talk about the Irish or the Poles or the Italians, that in Europe, those were nationalisms, those were not racial constructs. Those were not racial identities. And that it really wasn't until many of them came to America and or post World War ii, that this construct of whiteness really began to take hold as the elite in America understood, particularly post-slavery. That if the poor and the working class whites formed an alliance with the newly freed, formerly enslaved, that that would be a social condition that they would not be able to control. Jon Jeter (00:06:11): It was almost, it was as close to invincible as you could ever see. This coalition, which particularly after slavery, very tenuously, (00:06:24): But many, many whites, particularly those who were newer to the country, Germans and Italians and Irish, who had not formed a white identity, formed a white identity here. As you said in Europe, they were Irish Italians. Germans. One story I think tells the tale, it was a dock workers strike in New Orleans in 1894. I read about this in the book, and the dock workers were segregated, black unions and white unions, but they worked together, they worked in concert, they went on strike for higher wages, and I think a closed shop, meaning that if you worked on the docks, you had to belong to the union and they largely won. And the reason for that is because the bosses, the ship owners tried to separate the two. They would tell the white dock workers, we'll work with you, but we won't work with those N words. (00:07:22): And many of the dock workers at that time had just come over from Europe. So they were like, what are you talking about? He's a worker just like me. I worked right next to him, or he works the doc over from me or the platform over from me. He's working there. So what do you mean you're not going to work with, you're going to deal with all of us? And that ethos, that governing ethos of interracial solidarity was one that really held the day until 20 years later, 20 years later, by which time Jim Crow, which was really an economic and political strategy, had really taken hold. And many of the dock workers, their children had begun to think of themselves as white. Wilmer Leon (00:08:06): In fact, I'm glad you referred to the children because another parallel to this is segregated education. As the framers, and I don't mean of the constitution, but of this culture, wanted to impose this racial caste system, they realized you can't have little Jimmy and little Johnny playing together sitting next to each other in classrooms and then try to impose a system of hierarchy based on phenotype as these children get older. What do you mean I can't play with him? What do you mean I can't play with her? She's my friend. No, not anymore. And so that's one of the things that contributed to this phenotypical ethos separating white children from black children. Jon Jeter (00:09:01): Education has been such a pivotal instrument for the elites, for the oligarchs, for the investor class in fighting this class war. It's not just been an instrument, a tool to divide education in the United States. It's largely intended to reproduce inequality, and it always has been, although obviously many of us, many people in the working class see, there's a tool to get ahead. That's not how the stock class sees it. (00:09:35): But beyond that even it is the investment in education. This is a theme throughout the book from the first chapter to the last basically where education, because it is seen as a tool for uplift by the working class, but by the investment class, it's seen as a tool to divide. And increasingly really since about really the turn of the century, this century, the 21st century, it's been seen as an investment opportunity. So that's why we have all of these school closures and the school privatization effort. It's an investment opportunity. So the problem is that we're fighting a class war. We've always been fighting a class war, but it's something that is seldom mentioned in public discussions in the media, the news or entertainment media, it's seldom mentioned, but schools education, you could make an argument that it is the holy grail of the class war, whoever can capture the educational system because it can become a tool both by keeping it public or I guess making it public now, returning it to public. And so much of it is in private hands by maintaining its public nature, and at the same time using it to reduce inequality as opposed to reproducing inequality Wilmer Leon (00:11:08): And public education and access to those public education dollars is also an element of redistribution of wealth because as access to finance is becoming more challenging, particularly through the neocolonialist idea using public dollars for private sector interest, giving access to those public education dollars to the private sector is another one of the mechanisms that the elite used to redistribute public dollars into private hands. Jon Jeter (00:11:49): One of the things that I discovered and researching this book was the extent to which bonds sold by municipalities, by the government, those bonds are sold to investors. That is more and more since really the Reagan era, because we've shipped manufacturing offshore. So how do you make money if you are invested, if you've got surplus money laying around, how do you make money? You invest it, speculate. Loan tracking essentially is what it is. One of the ways that you can make money. One of the things that you can invest money in is the public sector. So schools become an instrument for finance. And so what we see around the country are schools education becoming an investment vehicle for the rich and they can invest in it and they're paying higher and higher returns. Taxpayers. (00:12:57): You and I, Wilmer, are paying more and more to satisfy our creditors. For as one example, I believe it was in San Diego or a school district near or right outside San Diego, this was about 20 years ago, but they took out a loan to finance public education there, I believe just their elementary schools in that district. And it was something like a hundred million dollars loan just for the daily operations of that school district. And that had a balance due or the money, the interest rate was such that it was going to cost the taxpayers in that district a billion dollars to repay that loan, right? So that is an extreme example. But increasingly what we've seen is public education bonds that are used to pay for the daily operations of our municipalities are the two of the class war are an instrument of combat in the class war because the more that cities practice what we call austerity, what economists call austerity, cutting the budget to the very bare minimum, the more investment opportunities it creates for the rich who then reap that money back. (00:14:15): So they've got a tax cut because they're not paying for the schools upfront, and it becomes an investment opportunity because they're paying for the schools as loans, which they give back exorbitant interest rates, sometimes resembling the interest rates on our credit card. So a lot of this is unseen by the public, but it really is how the class war being waged in the 21st century speculation because our manufacturing sector has been shipped offshore, and that's how we made the elites made their money for more than a century after World War ii, after the agrarian period. So yeah, it's really invisible to the naked eye, but it is where it's the primary battlefield for the class war. Wilmer Leon (00:15:00): The second quote you have is Muriel Rukeyser. The universe is made of stories, not of atoms. And I know that that resonates with you particularly because as a journalist, one who tells stories, why is that quote so significant and relevant to this book? Jon Jeter (00:15:26): This book is really, it took me almost a quarter of my life to write this book from the time that the idea first occurred to me, to the time I finished almost 15 years. And it's evolved over time. But one of the biggest setbacks was just trying to find a publisher. And many publishers, I think, although they did not say this, they objected to the subject matter. And my characterization, I have one quote again from George Jackson where he says, the biggest barrier to the advancement of the working class in America is white racism. So I think they objected to that. But I also faced issues with a few black publishers, one of whom said that after reading the manuscript that it didn't have enough theory. I would say to anyone, any publisher who thinks that theory is better than story probably shouldn't be a publisher. But I also think it's sort of symptomatic of today's, the media today where we don't understand that stories are what connects us to each other, Right? The suffering, the struggle, the triumphs of other people of our ancestors, Wilmer Leon (00:16:48): The reality Of the story Jon Jeter (00:16:51): reality, yes, Wilmer Leon (00:16:52): Juxtaposed to the theoretical. Jon Jeter (00:16:56): That's exactly right. Wilmer Leon (00:16:57): In Fact, Jon Jeter (00:16:59): The application of the theory, Wilmer Leon (00:17:01): I tell my students and when I was teaching public policy that you have to understand the difference between the theoretical and the practical, and that there are a lot of things in policy that in theory make a whole lot of sense until you then have to operationalize that on a daily basis and then have it make real sense. Big difference between the theoretical and the practical. Jon Jeter (00:17:26): No question about it. And you see this over and over again throughout the book, you see examples of, for instance, the application of communist theory. And I'm not advocating for anyone to be a communist, just that there was a very real push by communists in the United States encouraged by communists and the Soviet Union in the 1930s to try to start a worldwide proletarian revolution, the stronghold of which was here in the United States. And so the Scotts Corps boys, nine teenage boys, black boys who were falsely accused of rape, became the testing ground for communism right now, communism. It was something that sparked the imagination of a lot of black people. Very few joined the party, but it sparked the imagination. So you found a lot of blacks who were sympathetic to communism in the thirties and the forties. Wilmer Leon (00:18:21):  Rosa Parks's husband Rosa. Jon Jeter (00:18:23): That's correct. Wilmer Leon (00:18:24): Rosa. Rosa Parks's husband, Rosa Parks, the patron saint of protest politics. Jon Jeter (00:18:31): Yes. Coleman Young, the first black mayor of Detroit. I write about very specifically. It was a thing, right? But it was the application of it. And ultimately, I think most of the blacks, many of the blacks certainly who tried to implement communism would argue not only that they failed, but that communism failed them as well. So I don't, again, not an advocacy for communism, but that idea really did move the needle forward. And I think our future is not in our past. So going forward, we might sort of learn from what happened in the past, and there might be some things we can learn from communism, but I think ultimately it is, as the communist say, dialectical materialism. You can't dip your toe in the same river twice. So it is moving like it's gathering steam and it's not going to be what it was. Although we can take some lessons from the past, from the Scottsboro boys from the 1930s and the 1940s. Wilmer Leon (00:19:29): You write in your prologue quote, I cannot predict with any certainty the quality of that revolution, the one we were talking about in the open, or even it's outcome only that it is imminent for the historical record clearly asserts that the nationwide uprisings on college campuses' prophecy the resumption of hostilities between America's workers and their bosses. I'm going to try and connect the dot here, which may not make any sense, or you may say, Wilmer, that was utterly brilliant. I prefer the latter. Just over the past few days, former President Trump has been suggesting using the military to handle what he calls the enemy from within, because he is saying on election day, if he doesn't win, there will be chaos. And he says, not from foreign actors, but from the radical left lunatics, he says, I think the bigger problem are the people from within. And he says, you may need to use the National Guard, you may need to use the military, because this is going to happen. Now, I know you and Trump aren't talking. You're about two different things. I realize that different with different agendas, but this discussion about nationwide uprisings, and so your thoughts on how you looking at the college protests and what that symbolizes in terms of the discontent within the country and what Trump is, the fear that Trump is trying to sow in the minds relative to the election. Does that make any sense? Jon Jeter (00:21:18): It makes perfect sense. You don't say that about warmer Leon, all that all. Wilmer Leon (00:21:21): Oh, thank you. You're right. Jon Jeter (00:21:22): It makes perfect sense. But no, and actually I would draw a pretty straight line from Trump to what I'm writing about in the book. For instance, Nixon, who was a very smart man, and Trump was not a very smart man, it's just that he used his intelligence for evil. But Richard Nixon was faced with an uprising, a nationwide uprising on college campuses, and he resorted to violence, as we saw with Kent State. Wilmer Leon (00:21:52): Kent State, yes. Jon Jeter (00:21:53): Very intentional. Wilmer Leon (00:21:54): Jackson State, Jon Jeter (00:21:55): Yes, it was Wilmer Leon (00:21:56): Southern University in Louisiana. Jon Jeter (00:21:58): Yes, yes, yes. But Kent State was a little bit of an outlier because it was meant white kids as a shot across the bow to show white kids that if you continue to collaborate with blacks, with the Vietnamese, continue to sympathize with them and rally on their behalf, then you might get exactly what the blacks get and the Vietnamese are getting right. And honestly, in the long term, that strategy probably worked. It did help to divide this insurgency that was particularly activated on college campuses. So what Trump, I think is faced with what he will be faced with if he is reelected, which I think he very well may be, what he's going to be faced with is another insurgency that is centered on college campuses. This time. It's not the Vietnamese, it's the Palestinians, and increasingly every day the Lebanese. But it's the very same dynamic at work, which is this, you have white people on college campuses, particularly when you talk about the college campuses in the Ivy League. (00:23:13): These are kids who are mostly to the manner born. If you think about it, what they're doing is they are protesting their future employer. They're putting it all on the line to say, no, no, no, no, there's something bigger than my career than me working for you. And that is the fate of the Palestinian people. That's very much what happened in the late sixties, early seventies with the Vietnamese. And so Mark Twain is I think perhaps the greatest white man in American history, but one thing he got wrong. I don't think history rhymes. I think it does indeed repeat itself, but I think that's what we're seeing now with these kids on college campuses, that people thought that they dismantled these campus, these encampments all across the nation during the summer, the spring semester, and that when they came back that it would be over squash. (00:24:07): That's not what's happening. They're coming back loaded for bear. These college students, that does not all go well for the establishment, particularly in tandem with other things are going on, which is these nationwide, very likely a very serious economic crisis. Financial crisis is imminent, very likely. And these other barometers of social unrest, police killings of blacks, the cop cities that are being built around the country, environmental issues, what's happening in Gaza that can very much intersect. We're already seeing it. It's intersected with other issues. So there is a very real chance that we're going to see a regrouping of this progressive working class movement. How far it goes, we can't say we don't know. I mean, just because you protest doesn't mean that the oligarch just say, okay, well, you got it, you want, it doesn't happen that way. But what's the saying? You might not win every fight, but you're going to lose every fight that you don't fight. So we have a chance that we got a punch a chance like Michael Spinx with Mike Tyson made, but we got a shot. Wilmer Leon (00:25:26): And to that point, what did Mike Tyson say? Everybody can fight till they get punched in the face. Yeah, Jon Jeter (00:25:32): Everybody's got to plan until they get punched in the nose right Wilmer Leon (00:25:35): Now. So to your point about kids putting everything on the line and the children of the elite, putting it on the line, there was a university, a Bolt Hall, which is the law school at University of California, Berkeley, Steven David Solomon. He wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal that the law firm of Winston and Strawn did the right thing when it revoked the job offer of an NYU law student who publicly condemned Israel for the Hamas terrorist attacks. Legal employers in the recruiting process should do what Winston and Strawn did treat these students like the adults they are, if a student endorses hate dehumanization or antisemitism, don't hire 'em. So he was sending a very clear message, protest if you want to, there's going to be a price to pay. Jon Jeter (00:26:30): Yeah, I think those measures actually are counterproductive for the elites. It really sort of rallies and galvanizes. What we saw at Cornell, I'm not sure what happened with this, but a few weeks ago, they were talking about a student activist who was from West Africa, I believe, and the school Cornell was trying to basically repatriate, have them deported. But I think actions like that tend to work against the elite institutions. I hate to say this because I'm not an advocate of it, although I realize it's sometimes necessary violence seems to work best both for the elites and for the working class. And I'm not advocating that, but I'm just saying that historically it has occurred and it has been used by both sides when any student of France, Nan knows that when social movements allow the state to monopolize violence, you're probably going to lose that fight. And I think honestly speaking, that the state understands that violences can be as most effective weapon. People don't want to die, particularly young people. So it becomes sort of a clash between an irresistible force and an immovable object. Again, that's why I say I can't predict what will happen, but I do think we're on the verge of a very real, some very real social upheaval Wilmer Leon (00:27:54): Folks. This is the brilliance of John Jeter, journalist two time Pulitzer Prize finalists. We're talking about his book Class War in America, how the Elites Divide the Nation by asking, are you a worker or are you white? As you can see, I have the book, I've read the book, phenomenal, phenomenal, phenomenal writer. Writer. You write in chapter one, declarations of War. And I love the fact you quote, Sun Tzu, all warfare is based on deception. Jon Jeter (00:28:24): That's Right. Wilmer Leon (00:28:25): You write on the last day of the first leg of his final trip abroad, his president with Donald Trump waiting in the wings, a subdued Barack Obama waxed poetic on the essence of democracy as he toured the Acropolis in Greece. It's here in Athens that so many of our ideas about democracy, our notions of citizenship, our notions of rule of law began to develop. And then you continue. What was left unsaid in Obama's August soliloquy is that while Greece is typically acknowledged by Western scholars as the cradle of democracy, the country could in fact learn a thing or two about governance from its protege across the pond. What types of things do you see that we still could learn from them since we're being told in this election, democracy is on the ballot and all of those rhetorical tactics? Yeah, a minute, a minute, a minute. Especially in the most recent context of Barack Obama helping to set the stage of a Kamala Harris loss and blaming it on black men. Jon Jeter (00:29:43): Yeah, that's exactly what he's doing. He's setting us up to be the scapegoats, Wilmer Leon (00:29:48): One of the does my connecting the dots there. Does that make sense? Jon Jeter (00:29:52): It makes perfect sense. And one of the themes of this book that I guess I didn't want to hammer home too much because it makes me sound too patriotic, but in one sense, what I'm writing about when I talk about the class war, what I'm writing about is this system of racial capitalism, right? Capitalism. Capitalism is exploited. Racial capitalism pits the workers against each other by creating a super exploited class that would be African-Americans and turning one half of the working class against the other half, or actually in the case of the United States, probably 70% against 30% or something like that. Anyway, but the antidote to racial capitalism is racial solidarity, which is a system of governance in which black men are fit to participate in, because we tend to be black men and black women tend to be the most progressive actors, political actors in the United States, the vanguard of the revolution, really, when we've had revolution in this country, we've been leaders of that revolution. And so what I was really trying to lay out with that first chapter where I talk about this interracial coalition in Virginia in the late 1870s, early 1880s, is that this was a century before South Africa created the Rainbow Nation, right? Nelson Mandela's Rainbow Nation, which didn't produce the results that the United States. Wilmer Leon (00:31:32): There was no pot of gold. There was no pot of gold. Jon Jeter (00:31:34): Yeah, not so far, we've seen no sight of it. And Brazil hadn't even freed its slaves when this readjust party emerged in Virginia. And so what I'm saying is that this interracial coalition that we saw most prominently in Virginia, but really all across the nation, we saw these interracial coalitions, political coalitions, were all across the Confederacy after the Civil War, and they had varying degrees of success in redistributing wealth from rich to poor, rich to working class. But the point is that no country has really seen such a dynamic interracial rainbow coalition or racial democracy, such as we've seen here in the United States, both in that period after the Civil War, and also in the period between, say, I would say FDRs election as president in 1930, was that 31, 33? 33. (00:32:36): So roughly about the time of Ronald Reagan, we saw, of course there was racism. We didn't end racism, but there was this tenuous collaboration between white and black workers that redistributed wealth. So that by 1973, at the height of it, the working class wages accounted for more than half of GDP. Now it's about 58%, I'm sorry, 42% that the workers' wages accountant for GDP. So the point I'm making really is that this racial democracy, this racial democracy has served the working class very well in the United States, and by dissipating that racial democracy, it has served the elites very well. So Barack Obama's plea to black men, which is really quite frankly aimed at white men, telling them, showing them, Hey, I've got the money control. His job is to sort of quell this uprising by black men, and he's trying to tell plea with black men to vote for Kamala Harris, knowing that the Democratic Party, particularly since 1992 when Bill Clinton was elected, has not only done nothing for black men, but in fact has sought to compete for white suburban voters, IE, many of them racist has sought to compete with the GOP for white suburban voters (00:34:04): By showing they can be just as hard on black people as the GOP. People think that the 1995, was it 1994, omnibus crime Bill 94, racial 94, the racial disparities were unintended consequences. They weren't unintended at all. They weren't in fact, the point they wanted to show white people, the Democratic Party, bill Clinton, our current president, Joe Biden, and many other whites in Democratic party want to show whites, no, no, no, no. We got these Negroes in check. We can keep them in control just like the GOP can. And that continues to be the unofficial unstated policy today, which is why Kamala Harris says, I'm not going to do anything, especially for black people. It's why, for instance, nothing has changed legislatively since George Floyd was lynched before our eyes four years ago. Absolutely nothing has changed. That's an accent that is by design. So there's some very real connections that could be made. There's a straight line that can be made from the read adjuster party in Virginia in the 1880s, which had some real successes in redistributing wealth from rich to the workers and to the poor. And it was an interracial collaboration to Barack Obama appearing, pleading with black men to come vote for Kamala Harris, despite the fact she's done nothing for black men or for black people. Wilmer Leon (00:35:31): And to your earlier point, offering nothing but rhetoric and the opportunity economy where everybody, what in the world is, how does that feed the bulldog? So we've gone from, at least in terms of what they're, I believe, trying to do with black politics. We've gone from a politics of demand. We've gone from a politics of accountability to just a politics of promises and very vague. And this isn't in any way, shape or form trying to convince people that Donald Trump is any better. No, that's not what this conversation is about. But it's about former President Obama coming to a podium and telling black men how admonishing black men, how dare you consider this. But my question is, well, what are the specific policies that Vice President Harris is offering that she can also pass and pay for that are going to benefit the community? Because that's what this is supposed to be about, policy output. Jon Jeter (00:36:55): And that's the one thing that's not going to happen until the working class, we, the people decide, and I don't know what the answer's going to be, if it's going to be a third party, if it's going to be us taking control of the Democratic Party at the grassroots level, I don't know what it's going to be. But the philosophical underpinnings of both political parties is black suffering, right? Black suffering is what greases the wheel, the wheel, the political wheel, the economic wheel of the United States, the idea that you can isolate blacks and our suffering. What Reagan did, what Reagan began was a system of punishing blacks in the workplace, shipping those jobs overseas, which Reagan began, and very slowly, Clinton is the one who really picked up the pace, Wilmer Leon (00:37:44): The de-industrialization of America. Jon Jeter (00:37:47): The de-industrialization of America was based on black suffering. We were the first, was it last hired? First fired. And so we were the ones who lost those jobs initially, and it just snowballed, right? We lost those jobs. And think about when we saw the crack epidemic. Crack is a reflection of crises, (00:38:12): Right? Social crises. So we saw this thing snowball, really, right? But you, in their mind, you can isolate the suffering until you can't. What do I mean by that? Well, if you have just a very basic understanding of the economy, you understand that if you rob 13% of your population buying power, you robbed everybody of buying power, right? I mean, who's going to buy your goods and services if we no longer have buying power? We don't have jobs that pay good wages, we have loans that we can't repay. How does that sustain a workable economy? And maybe no one will remember this, but you've probably heard of Henry Ford's policy of $5 a day that was intended to sustain the economy with buying one thing, the one thing Wilmer Leon (00:39:07):  wait a minute, so that his workers, his assembly line automobile workers could afford to buy the product they were making. There are those who will argue that one of the motivations for ending slavery was the elite looked at the industrialists, looked at this entire population of people and said, these can be consumers. These people are a drag on the economy. If we free them, they can become consumers. Jon Jeter (00:39:45): You don't have to be a communist to understand that capitalism at its best. It can work for a long time, for a sustained period of time. It can work very well for a majority of the people. If the consumers have buying power. We don't have that anymore. We're a nation of borrowers. Wilmer Leon (00:40:07): It's the greed of the capitalists that makes capitalism consumptive, and there's another, the leviathan, all of that stuff. Jon Jeter (00:40:19): Yes. And again, black suffering is at the root of this nation's failure. We have plunged into this dark hole because they sought first to short circuit our income, our resources, but it's affected the entire economy. And the only way to rebuild it, if you want to rebuild a capitalist economy, and that's fine with me, the only way you can rebuild is to restore buying power for a majority of the Americans. As we saw during the forties, the fifties, particularly after the war, we saw this surge in buying power, which created, by the way, the greatest achievement of the industrial age, which was the American middle class. And that was predicated again on racial democracy. Blacks participating in the democracy. Wilmer Leon (00:41:10): You mentioned black men and women tended to be incredibly progressive, and that black men and women were the vanguard of the revolution. What then is the problem with so many of our black institutions that, particularly when you look at our HBCUs that make so many of them, anything but progressive, Jon Jeter (00:41:42): That's a real theme of the book. This thing called racial capitalism has survived by peeling off more and more people. At first, it was the people who came through Ellis Island, European Central Europeans, Hungarians checks, and I have someone in the book I'm quoting, I think David Roediger, the labor historian, famous labor historian, where he quoted a Serbian immigrant, I think in the early 1900's , saying, the first thing you learn is you don't wanna be, that the blacks don't get a fair chance, meaning that you don't want to be anything like them. You don't want to associate with them. And that was a very powerful thing. That's indoctrination. But they do. They peel off one layer after another. One of the most important chapters in the book, I think was the one that begins with the execution of the Rosenbergs, who were the Rosenbergs. Ethel and Julius Rosenbergs were communists, or at least former communists who probably did, certainly, Julius probably did help to pass nuclear technology to the Soviet Union in the late forties, early fifties. (00:42:52): At best. It probably sped up the Russians. Soviet Union's ability to develop the bomb sped up by a year, basically. That's the best that it did. So they had this technology already. Ethel Rosenberg may have typed up the notes. That's all she probably did. And anyway, the state, the government, the US government wanted to make an example out of them. And so they executed them and they executed Ethel Rosenberg. They wanted her to turn against her husband, which would've been turning against her country, her countryman, right? She realized that she wouldn't do it. I can tell you, Ethel Rosenberg was every bit as hard as Tupac. She was a bad woman. Wilmer Leon (00:43:40): But was she as hard as biggie? Jon Jeter (00:43:41): I dunno, that whole east coast, west coast thing, I dunno. But that was a turning point in the class where, because what it was intended to do, or among the things it was intended to do, was the Jews were coming out the Holocaust. The Jews were probably, no, not probably. They certainly were the greatest ally blacks. Many of the communists who helped the Scotsboro boys in the 1930s, and they were communists. Many of them were Jews, right? It was no question about, because the Jews didn't see themselves as white. Remember, Hitler attacked them because they were non-white because they were communists. That's why he attacked them. And that was certainly true here, where there was a very real collusion between Jewish communists and blacks, and it was meant execution of the Rosenbergs was meant to send a signal to the working class, to the Jewish community, especially. You can continue to eff around with these people if you want right, Wilmer Leon (00:44:43): but you'll wind up like em. Jon Jeter (00:44:44): Yeah. Yeah. And at the same time, you think right after the Rosenbergs execution, this figure emerged named Milton Friedman, right? Milton Friedman who said, Hey, wait a minute. This whole brown versus Board of Education, you don't have to succumb to that white people. You can send your kids to their own schools or private schools and make the state pay for it. So very calculated move where the Jews became white, basically, not all of them. You still have, and you still have today, as we see with the protest against Israel, the Jewish community is still very progressive as a very progressive wing and are still our allies in a lot of ways. But many of them chose to be white. The same thing has happened ironically, with black people, right? There is a segment of the population that's represented by a former president, Barack Obama, by Kamala Harris, by the entire Congressional black office that has been offered, that has been extended, this sort of olive branch of prosperity. (00:45:40): If you help us keep these Negroes down, you can have some of this too. Like the scene in Trading Places where Eddie Murphy is released from jail. He's sitting in the backseat with these two doctors and they're like, well, you can go home if you want to. He's got the cigar and the snifter of cognac, no believe I can hang out with you. Fell a little bit longer, right? That's what you see happening now with a lot of black people, particularly the black elite, where they say, no, I think I can hang out with you a little bit longer. So they've turned against us. Wilmer Leon (00:46:13): Port Tom Porter calls that the NER position. Jon Jeter (00:46:17): Yes. Yes. Wilmer Leon (00:46:19): And for those that may not hear the NER, the near position that Mortimer and what was the other brother's name? i Jon Jeter (00:46:28): I Can't remember. I can see their faces, Wilmer Leon (00:46:30): Right? That they have been induced and they have been brought into this sense of entitlement because they are near positions of power. And I think a perfect example of that is the latest election in New York and in St. Louis where you've had, where APAC bragged publicly, we're going to invest $100 million into these Democratic primary elections, and we are going to unseat those who we believe to be two progressive anti-Israel and Cori Bush in St. Louis and Bowman, Jamal Bowman in New York were two of the most notable victims of that. And in fact, I was just having this conversation with Tom earlier today, and that is that nobody seemed to complain. I don't remember the Black caucus, anybody in the black caucus coming out. That article came out, I want to say in April of this year, and they did not say a mumbling word about, what do you mean you're about to interfere in our election? But after Cori Bush lost, now she's out there talking about APAC, I'm coming after your village. Hey, home, girl. That's a little bit of aggression, a whole lot too late. You just got knocked out. (00:48:19): Just got knocked the F out. You are laying, you are laying on the canvas, the crowd's headed to the exits, and you're looking around screaming, who hit me? Who hit me? Who hit me? That anger should have been on the front end talking about, oh, you all going to put in a hundred million? Well, we going to get a hundred million and one votes. And it should have been exposed. Had it been exposed for what it was, they'd still be in office. Jon Jeter (00:48:50): And to that point, and this is very interesting. Now, Jamal Bowman, I talked to some black activists in New York in his district, and they would tell you we never saw, right? We had these press conferences where we're protesting police violence under Mayor Eric Adams, another black (00:49:11): Politician, and we never saw him. He didn't anticipate. In fact, one of them says she's with Black Lives Matter, I believe she says, we called him when it was announced that APAC was backing this candidate. He said, what can we do? Said they never heard back. Right? Cori Bush, to her credit, is more from the movement. She was a product of Michael Brown. My guess is she will be back, right? That's my guess. Because she has a lot of support from the grassroots. She probably, if anyone can defeat APAC money as Cori Bush, although she's not perfect either. Wilmer Leon (00:49:44): But my point is still, I think she fell into the trap. Jon Jeter (00:49:51): No question. No question. No question. No, I don't disagree at all. And that again, is that peeling off another layer to turn them against this radical black? That's what it really is. It's a radical black political tradition that survived slavery. It's still here, right? It's just that they're constantly trying to suppress that. Wilmer Leon (00:50:10): And another element of this, and I'm trying to remember the sister that they did this to in Georgia, Congresswoman, wait a minute, hang on. Time out. Cynthia McKinney. The value of having a library, Cynthia McKinney. (00:50:31): Most definitely! (00:50:33): They did the same thing. How the US creates S*hole countries. Cynthia McKinney, they did the same thing to her. So it's not as though they had developed a new strategy. It's that it worked against Cynthia and they played it again, and we let it happen. Jon Jeter (00:50:57): Real democracy can immunize these politicians though, from that kind of strategy. Wilmer Leon (00:51:01): Absolutely. Absolutely. In chapter six, the Battle on the Bay, you talk about 1927, you talk about this 47-year-old ironworker, John Norris, who buys this flat, and then the depression hits and he loses everything. You talk about Rose Majeski, Jon Jeter (00:51:24): I think I Wilmer Leon (00:51:26): Managed to raise her five children. You talk about the Depression. The Harlem Renaissance writer, Langston Hughes wrote, brought everybody down a peg or two, and the Negro had but few pegs to fall. Travis Dempsey lost his job selling to the Chicago defender. Then you talk about a gorgeous summer day, Theodore Goodlow driving a truck and a hayride black people on a hayride, and someone falls victim to a white man running into the hayride. And his name was John Jeter. John with an H. Yours has no H Jon Jeter (00:52:13): Legally it does. Wilmer Leon (00:52:14): Oh, okay. Okay, okay. All right. Anyway, so you make a personal familiar connection to some of this. Elaborate, Jon Jeter (00:52:26): My uncle, who was a teenager at the time, I can't remember exactly how old he played in the Negro Leagues, actually, Negro baseball leagues was on this hayride. And I know the street. I'm very familiar with. The street. Two trucks can't pass one another. It's just too narrow, and it's like an aqueduct. So it's got walls there to keep you. Oh, (00:52:52): Viaduct. I'm sorry. Yeah. Not an auc. Yeah, thank you. Public education. So basically what happened is my uncle had his legs sort of out the hayride, like he's a teenager, and this car came along, another truck came along and it sheared his legs off, killed him. I don't think my father ever knew the story. I think my father went to his grave not knowing the story, but we did some research after his death, me and my sister and my brother, my younger brother. And there was almost a riot at the hospital when my uncle died, because the belief, I believe they couldn't quite say it in the black newspaper at the time, but the belief was that this white man had done it intentionally, right? He wasn't charged, and black people were very upset. So it was an act of aggression, very much, very similar to what we see now happening all over the country with these acts of white, of aggression by white men, basically young white men who are angry about feeling they're losing their racial privileges or racial entitlement. (00:53:52): So anyway, to make the story short, I was named after my uncle, my father, my mother named me after my uncle, but I think it was 1972. I would've been seven years old. And me and my father were at a farmer's market in Indianapolis where I grew up. And this old man at this time, old man, I mean doting in a brown suit, I'll never forget this in a brown suit. He comes up to us and he just comes up to my father and he holds his hand, shakes his hand, and I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. And my father's said, no, it's okay. You didn't know. It wasn't your fault. Nobody blamed you. And come to find out that he was the driver of that hay ride, right? I think a dentist at the time, he was the driver of that hayride in which my uncle was killed. (00:54:38): And he had felt bad about it, I guess, the rest of his days. So yeah, it's really interesting how my life, or at least the lives of my parents and my grandparents, how it intersects with this story of the class war. And it does in many, many aspects. It does. And I suspect that's true of most people, I hope, who will read the book, that they will find their own lives and their own history intersecting with this class war. Because this class war is comprehensive. It's hard to escape from it. It is all about the class war to paraphrase Fred Hampton. And yeah, that story really kind of moved me in a lot of ways because I had personal history, personal connection. Wilmer Leon (00:55:25): You mentioned when you just said that there was almost this riot at the hospital. What a lot of people now today don't realize is how many of those incidents occurred during those times. And we know very little, if anything about 'em, we were raising hell. So for example, you listened to some kids today was, man, if I had to been back there, I wouldn't have been no slaves. I'd have been out there kicking ass and taking names. Well, but implicit in that is a lack of understanding that folks were raising hell, 1898 in Greenwood, South Carolina, one of my great uncles was lynched in the Phoenix Riot. Black people tried to vote, fight breaks out, white guy gets shot, they round up the usual suspects, Jon Jeter (00:56:23): Right Wilmer Leon (00:56:23): Of whom was my great uncle. Some were lynched, some were shot at the Rehoboth Church in the parking lot of the Rehoboth Church, nonetheless. And that was the week before the more famous Wilmington riot. It was one week before the Wilmington Riot. And you've got the dcom lunch counters. And I mean, all of these history is replete with all of these stories of our resistance. And somehow now we've lost the near position. We've lost. We've lost that fight. Jon Jeter (00:57:02): We don't understand, and I mean this about all of us, but particularly African Americans, we don't understand. We once were warriors. And so one of the things I talk about in the book I write about in the book is the red summer of 1919. Many people are familiar with 1919, the purges that were going on. Basically this industrial upheaval. And the white elites were afraid that blacks were going to sort of lead this union labor organizing movement. And so there were these riots all across the country of whites attacking blacks. But what people don't understand is that the brothers, back then, many of them who had participated in World War, they were like Fred Hampton, it takes two to tango, right? And they were shooting back. And in fact, to end that thought, some of these riots, which weren't really riots, they were meant to be massacre, some of these, they had scouts who went into the black community to see almost to see their vulnerability. And a few times the White Scouts came back and said, no, we don't wanna go in there. We better leave them alone. Wilmer Leon (00:58:12): I was looking over here on my bookcase, got, oh, here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Red summer, the summer of 1919, and the Awakening of Black America. Yeah, yeah. Jon Jeter (00:58:24): I've got that book. I've got that same book. Yep. Wilmer Leon (00:58:26): Okay, so I've got a couple others here. Death in the Promised Land, the Tulsa Race Riot in 1921, and see what a lot of people don't know about Tulsa is after the alleged encounter in the elevator Jon Jeter (00:58:44): Elevator, right! Wilmer Leon (00:58:45): Right? That young man went home, went to the community, went back to, and when the folks came in, the community, they didn't just sit idly by and let this deal go down. That's why, one of the reasons why I believe, I think I have this right, that it got to the tension that it did because it just came an all out fight. Jon Jeter (00:59:12): Oh yeah, Oh yeah! Wilmer Leon (00:59:12): We fought back Jon Jeter (00:59:14): tooth and nail. Wilmer Leon (00:59:16): We fought back, Jon Jeter (00:59:16): Tooth and nail. Yeah, no, definitely. Wilmer Leon (00:59:18): We fought back. So Brother John Jeter, when someone is done reading class War in America, how the elites divided the nation by asking, are you a worker or are you white? And I'm reading it backwards anyway, what are the three major points that you want someone to take away from reading? And folks I've read it, it's a phenomenal, phenomenal. In fact, before you answer that question, let me give this plug. I suggest that usually when I recommend a book, I try to recommend a compliment to it. And I would suggest that people get John Jeter class war in America and then get Dr. Ronald Walters "White Nationalism, Black Interests." Jon Jeter (01:00:13): Oh yeah. Wilmer Leon (01:00:14): And read those two, I Think. Jon Jeter (01:00:18): Oh, I love that. I love being compared to Ron Walters, the great Ron Walters, Wilmer Leon (01:00:23): And I would not be where I am and who I am. He played a tremendous role in Dr. Wilmer Leon. I have a PhD because of him. Jon Jeter (01:00:33): He is a great man. I interviewed him a few times. Wilmer Leon (01:00:36): Yeah, few. So while you're answering that question, I'm going to, so what are the two or three things that you want the reader to walk away from this book having a better understanding of? Jon Jeter (01:00:47): Well, we almost end where we begin. The first thing is Fred Hampton. It is a class war gda is what he said, right? It's a class war. But that does not mean that you can put class above race if you really want to understand the battle, the fight, Wilmer Leon (01:01:09): Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Lemme interrupt you. There was a question I wanted to ask you, and I forgot. Thomas Sowell, the economist Thomas Sowell. And just quickly, because to your point about putting class above race, I wanted to get to the Thomas Sowell point, and I almost forgot it. So in your exposition here, work Thomas, Sowell into your answer. Jon Jeter (01:01:30): Yeah, Thomas. Sowell, and I think a lot of people, particularly now you see with these young, mostly white liberals, although some blacks like Adolf Reed, the political scientists, Adolf Reed posit that it's class above race, that the issues racial and antagonisms should be subordinate to the class issue. Overall, universal ideas and programs, I would argue you can't parse one from the other, that they are connected in a way that you can't separate them. That yes, it is a class issue, but they've used race to weaken the working class to pit it against the itself. So you can't really parse the two and understand the battle that we have in front of us. The other thing I would say too, because like the Panthers would say, I hate the oppressor. I don't hate white people. And it really is a white identity. But as George Jackson said, and I quote him in the book, white racism is the biggest barrier to a united left in United States. That which is true when he wrote it more than 50 years ago, (01:02:43): It was true 50 years before that is true today. It is white racism. That is the problem. And once whites can, as we see happening, we do see it happening with these young, many of them Jewish, but really whites of all from all walks of life are forfeiting their racial privileges to rally, to advocate for the Palestinians. So that's a very good sign that something is stirring within our community. And the third thing I would say is, I'm not optimistic, right? Because optimism is dangerous. Something Barack Obama should have learned talking about the audacity of hope, he meant optimism and optimism is not what you need. But I do think there's reason for hope, these young students on the college campuses who are rallying the, I think the very real existential threat posed to the duopoly by the Democratic Party, by Kamala Harris and Joe Biden's complicity in this genocide. I think there's a very real possibility that the duopoly is facing an existential threat. People are understanding that the enemy is, our political class, is our elite political class that is responsible for this genocide that we are seeing in real time. (01:04:03): That's Never happened before. So I would say the three things, it is a class for white racism is the biggest barrier to a united left or a united working class in this country. And third, there is reason to hope that we might be able to reorganize. And in fact, history suggests that we will organize very soon, reorganize very soon. There might be a dark period in between that, but that we will reorganize. And that this time, I hope we understand that we need to fight against this white racism, which unfortunately, whites give up that privilege. History has shown whites give up that privilege of being white, work with us, collaborate with us. But they return, as we saw beginning with Ronald Reagan, they return to this idea of a white identity, which is really a scab. Wilmer Leon (01:04:50): Well, in fact, Dr. King told us in where we go from here, chaos or community, he said, be wary of the white liberal. He said, because they are opposed to the brutality of the lash, but they do not support equality. That was from where we go from here, folks. John Jeter class War in America, how the elites divide the nation by asking, are you a worker or are you white? After you read that, then get white nationalism, black interests, conservative public policy in the black community by my mentor, Dr. The late great Dr. Ronald Walters, and I mentioned the Dockum drugstore protests. He was Dr. Ron Walters was considered to be the grandfather of, Jon Jeter (01:05:40): I didn't know that Wilmer Leon (01:05:41): of the sit-in movement. Jon Jeter (01:05:42): Did not know (01:05:43): The Dockum lunch counter protests in Wichita, Kansas. He helped to organize before the folks in North Carolina took their lead from the lunch counter protest that he helped. (01:06:01): I did not know that. Wilmer Leon (01:06:02): Yes, yes, yes, yes. Jon Jeter (01:06:03): I did not know that. Wilmer Leon (01:06:04): Alright, so now even I taught John Jeter something today. Now. Now that's a day. That's a day for you. John Jeter, my dear brother. I got to thank you as always for joining me today. Jon Jeter (01:06:16): Thank you, brother. It's been a pleasure. It's been a pleasure. Wilmer Leon (01:06:19): Folks, thank you all so much for listening to the Connecting the Dots podcast with me, Dr. Wimer Leon, and stay tuned for new episodes every week. Also, please follow and subscribe, lie a review, share the show, follow us on social media. You'll find all the links to the show below in the description. And remember that this is where the analysis of politics, culture, and history converge. Because talk without analysis is just chatter. And we don't chatter here on connecting the dots. And folks, get this book. Get this book for the holidays. Get this book. Did I say get the book? Because you need to get the book. We don't chatter here on connecting the dots. See you all again next time. Until then, I'm Dr. Woman Leon. Y'all have a great one. Peace. I'm out Announcer (01:07:15): Connecting the dots with Dr. Wilmer Leon, where the analysis of politics, culture, and history converge.  

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Send us a textResources for the Community:___________________________________________________________________https://linktr.ee/theplussidezpodcast Ro - Telehealth for GLP1 weight management https://ro.co/weight-loss/?utm_source=plussidez&utm_medium=partnership&utm_campaign=comms_yt&utm_content=45497&utm_term=55___________________________________________________________________The Provider Spotlight is a new bonus series of shorter episodes featuring doctors and specialists from past sessions—think of it as 'doctor shorts.' With over 25k scripts for Zepbound written weekly, many new subscribers haven't seen our earlier episodes, which helps them catch up quickly. Thanks for your support!On July 17th of 2023 Dr Alexandra set down with the Plus Sidez and discussed the affects of Metabolic Disorders & Mounjaro/GLP1 TreatmentsBIODr. Alexandra Sowa is the CEO and founder of SoWell Health, a consumer metabolic healthcare company. SoWell supports patients at every point of their health and weight loss journey through at-home laboratory testing kits, evidence-based nutraceuticals, and scalable telehealth access to medical weight management.  Dr. Sowa is dual-board-certified physician of internal and obesity medicine and clinical instructor of medicine at NYU Langone. Dr. Sowa has served as a health expert for national media outlets and print publications like SiriusXM, CBS News, NPR, the New York Times, U.S. News, World Report, and more.You them find us at  www.getsowell.com______________________________________________________________________⭐️Mounjaro Stanley⭐️griffintumblerco.Etsy.comUse code PODCAST10 for $ OFF______________________________________________________________________Join this channel to get access to perks:   / @theplussidez______________________________________________________________________#Mounjaro #MounjaroJourney #Ozempic #Semaglutide #tirzepatide  #GLP1 #Obesity #zepbound #wegovy  Support the showKim Carlos, Executive Producer TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@dmfkim?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dmfkimonmounjaro?igsh=aDF6dnlmbHBoYmJn&utm_source=qr Kat Carter, Associate Producer TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@katcarter7?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc Instagram https://www.instagram.com/mrskatcarter?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==

PRL 9 - 19 - 24 Zach Kaplan, Ronnie Sowell, Jeff Nadu, Greg Hudson by Pirate Radio

This episode features part one with Stephen Sowell - the R3 program director for Delta Waterfowl.  Stephen is involved in some incredible projects at colleges and universities right here in our own back yards. So listen up and learn how you can get involved to help recruit , retain , and reactivate waterfowl hunters throughout North America.    If you enjoy the Rolling Thunder Podcast , share it with a friend , leave us a rating , and write a review!   We'll see you on the next one.

Haitians eating cats is all the talk. What's the story? And what does IQ have to do with any of this? I discuss the issue of IQ, Haitians, and present the best libertarian response (if I do say so myself).S H O W  N O T E S6NewsDayton Daily NewsLex Friedman (Glenn Loury)Thomas Sowell (IQ & Race)Thomas Sowell (Article)Wait Song: Smoke RisingMusic by: CreatorMix.comVideo

In today's episode we explore the theme of "Race and IQ" and whether or not different racial groups have different levels of innate intelligence.Sowell explored this subject in depth in his 2013 book “Intellectuals and Race."Joining me to discuss this controversial topic is Professor Nathan Cofnas, who has written extensively on this subject.I highly recommend you read the following to get the most out of this episode:1) "Intellectuals and Race" by Thomas Sowell (of course you should read it!)2) "A Guide for the Hereditarian Revolution" by Nathan Cofnas3) "Thomas Sowell's Wishful Thinking About Race" by Nathan Cofnas.You can find Professor Cofnas's Substack at: https://substack.com/@nathancofnas.• This episodes' song list1. Strange Fruit Billie Holiday 19392. Carefully Taught South Pacific 19493. Black Boys Hair 19644. Birmingham Sunday Joan Baez 19645. Mr Rogers Kiddie Pool scene 19696. Black and White three dog night 19727. Why can't we be friends War 19758. War Bob Marley 19769. What color is God's skin 197710. Redemption Song Marley 198011. Ebony and Ivory 198212. My Hometown bruce 198413. People are People Depeche Mode 198414. Black or white Michael Jackson 199115. Colored People DC talk 199516. Changes by Tupac 199817. Everyone's a little bit racist 200318. Stop the hatred Wyclef 2021THERE ARE 3 WAYS TO SUPPORT THE PODCAST:1) Support the show financially by subscribing with a monthly contribution on Patreon:   www.Patreon.com/SowellGeniusThe money raised through Patreon supports our efforts to popularize the books and ideas of Thomas Sowell.----------------------------------------------2) Rate and review the podcast on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. This helps a lot by nudging the show to the top of searches. I really appreciate the many positive reviews, especially this one by Jonsby: "This is one of the few podcasts that I actually slow down so I can savor it!"------------------Support the show• Find me on X (Twitter) at @alanwolan• Email me at WolanAlan@gmail.com• Support the show at https://www.patreon.com/SowellGenius• Purchase podcast merch at https://www.etsy.com/shop/GeniusSowell• See all my links at www.alanwolan.com

Serial killers aren't created in a vacuum, and that goes for Anthony Sowell too. Everything about his life up until the time police discovered the bodies of 11 women in and around his Cleveland was a series of warning signs. His childhood, his earlier crimes...everything. In this episode of DEVIANT, we learn the Sowell's origin story, and how he came to be. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We Got Thic™️ in this episode with a 'band of hired guns' - Thicarus! This episode was fueled by the love of perfectly worn-in jeans, adult slide whistles, and honey mustard. Just like when you see Thicarus at a show, you never know what's going to happen next in this interview.This band is comprised of all full-time musicians who are living the life of going gig to gig, practice to practice, but still come together to do what they love together, and it works SO WELL. This group does a lot of things well, explaining one of the more unique approaches to songwriting that we have heard on this show. They also are calling out some bands in here BY NAME, so look out, all you horn bands of Cleveland...Thank you, Thicarus, for joining us today! Give them a follow to see where they'll be next, because it's a guaranteed good time every time!We are excited to announce that Circle K has become the first official sponsor of LoCLE Grown! Please do us all a solid and download the Inner Circle App (iPhone and Google Play) today to get .25 cents per gallon off your first 5 fill ups and 5 free drinks! Learn more here: https://www.circlek.com/inner-circlePlease support LG by following to get the latest episodes, leave us a review and/or 5-star rating, and following us on Instagram!Performance mixed and mastered by Jake Conder of The Room

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Send us a Text Message.Connecting our hearts to God through prayer is vital for our spiritual growth. Prayer can be intimidating for some and come easy for others, but regardless of where we are in our walk with God, know that we are all prayer learners on a journey of growth and true fulfillment in Jesus. Bobby and Meghan are joined, in studio, by Susan Sowell to have an honest conversation about different types of prayer, dancing in the kitchen and getting honest with God when you don't feel like praying! Isaiah 50:4  The Lord GOD has given me  the tongue of those who are instructed  to know how to sustain the weary with a word.  He awakens me each morning;  he awakens my ear to listen like those being instructed.Christian Standard Bible (Nashville, TN: Holman Bible Publishers, 2020), Is 50:4. Psalm 25:4 4 Make your ways known to me, LORD; teach me your paths. 5 Guide me in your truth and teach me, for you are the God of my salvation; I wait for you all day long.Christian Standard Bible (Nashville, TN: Holman Bible Publishers, 2020), Ps 25:4–5. More Prayer Resources Personal growth Prayers: Marriage Prayers:  Teaching Kids prayer:  About Susan Sowell Susan's passion is for individuals and families to experience freedom in Christ and connect deeply with God. Susan's role at Kingsland is Adult Minister. She is the author and founder of Breakthroughs which is a 13-week class to help people experience freedom from strongholds in their lives. Breakthroughs also equips parents to lead their family to freedom. Susan and her husband, Terry, have been married for 32 years and are blessed with a son (and his wife) and daughter. Susan and Terry love the simple things in life - spending time with their family, going on walks, coffee on the back porch, fishing and trips to the ocean.About Empowered Homes Who we are? The primary purpose of Empowered Homes is to connect church and home by equipping families, leaders and ministries to grow in the areas of marriage, parenting, personal growth. discipleship strategy, family ministry, and leadership development. We value the family as the first institution designed by God for spiritual formation, relationships, and reflecting His image. We seek to ensure that every element of church life supports and equips that essential role. What we do? Empowered Homes Ministry provides practical, gospel-based resources to connect church and home. The majority of our resources are offered online through our website empoweredhomes.org. We also partner with churches and ministries to provide conferences, equipping events & ministry coaching.Empowered Homes Podcast Show us some Love! Do you appreciate The Empowered Homes Podcast? Like, subscribe, comment, share. Every bit of your engagement helps us be open-handed in sharing resources to grow strong families, leaders and ministries. Thanks for your help in Empowering Homes for the gospel! FB : https://www.facebook.com/EmpoweredHomesResources Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/empoweredhomesresources/ Youtube: ...

Cleveland police finally learn that there's a serial killer at work right under their noses, and his name is Anthony Sowell. As the full horror of what's in Sowell's house becomes clear, a neighborhood is in shock, and the families of missing women wait for news. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

#careersuccess #careers #careercoach Hello Everyone and Welcome Back to 5 Minute Career Hack Podcast. Discover how to take control of your career and unlock your full potential. In this episode, career coach Asha Sowell shares actionable steps to help you identify your passions, leverage your network, and land your dream job. Learn how to overcome career obstacles and build a fulfilling career path. Don't miss this episode for essential tips and insights to transform your professional life. Connect with Asha Sowell: http://linkedin.com/in/ashasowell Links For You! Get Access to our Facebook Group: https://bit.ly/careerhackerfacebook

Ever struggle to show up as your highest self? Does persisting in the identity of your ideal woman seem difficult to you? Because let's be real—you've never been her before? On today's podcast episode, I am shining some light on a term that helped me manifest my BIG desires, and that term is: Familiarization. Familiarization is the name of the game when it comes to dwelling in this powerful state!  Familiarization means knowing the contents of your dream reality SO WELL that you can call them up at will.  Think about how WELL you know this current reality—you know it so well that you can call up its state at any moment. In fact, this is what you're doing all day! All day you are calling up past memories and problems of the day which only dwell you in the state that you don't want to fulfill anymore.  To truly persist in the wish fulfilled, you need to be as clear about your dream reality as you are about your current one. Listen in to hear all about it.  Snag the Self-Concept Bundle by clicking HERE Vibe with the baddies on Instagram: @baddiebmindset Follow BBM on  Tik Tok: @baddiebmindset JOIN THE BBM FACEBOOK COMMUNITY: https://www.facebook.com/groups/baddiebmindset www.baddiebmindset.com

Cayler and I have interacted at church activities here and there over the years. Recently we started talking about business, life, and flow and it just went SO WELL and I KNEW I had to get him on the podcast, so here he is. We recorded this while on a walk at the park it was definitely a VIBE. Cayler is planning to start his own business with massage, yoga, and other good stuff soon, but for now we talked about his vision of it, of making space for people, helping them run the show, and just helping them vibe more on their level. It was a beautiful conversation! Super thankful! This was recorded on May 16, 2024.Cayler's Instagram:More From Me: My Weekly Newsletter - https://dallincandland.substack.com/"God is Trying to Talk to Me" (My First Poetry Book!) -  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CN5WS9C8?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_38CAR76S3MTH5M4JMJFHPodcast YouTube Channel (For Highlights, Cool Shorts, and More!): https://www.youtube.com/@yieldtodaypodcastTime Stamps:1:08 - Helping People Feel Heard2:18 - Knowing What the Connection You Want Feels Like3:36 - Why Cayler Really Doesn't Like Heights (But Faces it Anyway!)6:25 - Testing the waters when it comes to trust with people.11:18 - The Only Person You Can Control is Yourself13:30 - We Can Choose How Kind We Are to Ourselves15:44 - We Need to Give Ourselves More Space21:30 - Being Able to Just Talk (Without Fear of Judgment)23:04 - Bouncing Back From Failure (Through Having a Good Conversation)26:04 - The Beauty of Being Vulnerable with Those We Care About27:52 - The Deep Training From Our Childhoods and Stuff29:37 - Setting Boundaries with Ourselves and Our Technology35:53 - Letting Things Just Happen Naturally38:00 - How God Has Held Space for Cayler43:20 - People CAN Change46:03 - Wait and ListenQuotes:5:19 - "I share more information with those people who DESERVE that information." - Cayler6:25 - "People will teach you what they do with your information."7:03 - "Withholding information for the proper time is a great skill to have."7:25 - "Sometimes people aren't ready to hear it, so it's not beneficial to share that information with them yet."8:45 - "If you don't ask, how are you supposed to know?"12:57 - "It's a beautiful day to make space for yourself - to run around and do whatever."14:40 - "Just do YOU like why in the world are you waiting to do you?"15:03 - "The moment is SO SPECIAL you remember it like it happened yesterday."18:27 - "You gotta be careful with fire..."20:57 - "Making it SO CLEAR so I don't have to make it a decision in a moment."21:23 - "I Just Want to be Heard for Like 5 Minutes..."23:30 - "Would you like to hear how I see this?"24:09 - "I felt SO heard, I felt SO seen, it was SO beautiful."24:35 - "I created a whole new space for myself and it went WAY BETTER."25:53 - "When you respect and trust then ALL of these other things can flow."26:19 - "When you tone it down it makes it hard to hear what they are trying to say."27:50 - "THE TRAINING! THE TRAINING! THE TRAINING - MAN IS CRAZY!!!"37:18 - "Taking time to respond and not just respond in a moment can change EVERYTHING."39:51 - "God is there if you just choose to see the good in what is around you."46:25 - "Letting people finish their thoughts is SO important."Support the Show.

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In today's episode we explore the theme of “Honesty.” Sowell wrote about honesty in his latest book “Social Justice Fallacies,” and also in his 2000 classic “Basic Economics.” In addition, his 1993 collection of essays called “Is Reality Optional?” contains an essay about honesty which has a very unexpected spin to it.We learn that honesty is not just a moral virtue, it's also a form of human capital that varies greatly from culture to culture and from group to group within a particular culture.I explore themes from those 3 Sowell books and I interview Dan Ariely, author of "The Honest Truth about Dishonesty: How we lie to everyone, especially ourselves," published in 2012.  Notes to help you get the most out of this episode:• My three favorite Dan Ariely books;1. "Predictably Irrational" (2008)2. "The Upside of Irrationality" (2010)3. "The Honest Truth about Dishonesty" (2012)• This episodes' song list:1. "Honesty" by Billy Joel2. PS22 Children's Choir rendition of "Honesty" 3. "A Matter of Trust" by Billy Joel4. "Honesty" Saxaphone Cover by  Max Sax5. "Honor Pledge Song" by Princeton Triangle Club 6.  "Honesty" orchestral version by the Japanese Army Band 7. "One Piece at a Time" by Johnny Cash 8. "And So it Goes" by Billy Joel 9. "Piano Man" by Billy Joel 10. "She's Always a Woman" by Billy Joel 11.  "Lullabye" by Billy Joel12. "Scenes from an Italian Restaurant" by Billy Joel 13. "Two Thousand Years" by Billy Joel 14.  "An Innocent Man" by Billy Joel15.  "Honesty" Violin cover by ShikiTHERE ARE 3 WAYS TO SUPPORT THE PODCAST:1) Support the show financially by subscribing with a monthly contribution on Patreon:   www.Patreon.com/SowellGeniusThe money raised through Patreon supports our efforts to popularize the books and ideas of Thomas Sowell.----------------------------------------------2) Rate and review the podcast on Apple Podcasts. This helps a lot by nudging the show to the top of Google searches. I really appreciate the many positive reviews, especially this one by Jonsby: "This is one of the few podcasts that I actually slow down so I can savor it!"----------------------------------------------3) Purchase our Thomas Sowell Post It Note pads:  You can find all 300+ digital images of the post it notes HERE, feel free to download them and use them however you like.To purchase pads of printed post it noteSupport the show• Text the show: ‪(646) 780-9104‬• Tweet me at @alanwolan• Email me at WolanAlan@gmail.com• Support the show at https://www.patreon.com/SowellGenius• Purchase podcast merch at https://www.etsy.com/shop/GeniusSowell• See all my links at www.alanwolan.com

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When actor Clifton Duncan dared to go against his industry's orthodoxy on COVID-19, he found out the hard way that the expectations for conformity can be unforgiving. Hounded out of his profession, he took comfort in discovering the work of another celebrated nonconformist, economist Thomas Sowell. While Sowell's peers were arguing for socialist economic policies to address the alleged injustice of institutional racism, Sowell boldly stood up for free markets and personal responsibility. Like Duncan, he refused to use his identity as a black man as a crutch or an excuse to act like a victim. Now experiencing a career renaissance, Duncan talks to Matt Kibbe about his planned one-man show based on the life of Thomas Sowell and how being “canceled” has actually created new fans and new opportunities for him.

What is social justice and how does it compare and contrast with biblical justice? In this episode, Sean and Scott discuss the recent book by economist Thomas Sowell called Social Justice Fallacies. According to Sowell, many things thought to be true today about justice efforts do not line up with the facts. As a result, many social justice efforts have had catastrophic consequences. Join Sean and Scott for a provocative discussion.You can also watch this episode on our YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/aoG8r8X4biE.A transcript of this episode is available at https://www.biola.edu/blogs/think-biblically/2024/social-justice-fallacies. ==========Think Biblically: Conversations on Faith and Culture is a podcast from Talbot School of Theology at Biola University, which offers degrees both online and on campus in Southern California. Find all episodes of Think Biblically at: https://www.biola.edu/think-biblically. Watch video episodes at: https://bit.ly/think-biblically-video. To submit comments, ask questions, or make suggestions on issues you'd like us to cover or guests you'd like us to have on the podcast, email us at thinkbiblically@biola.edu.

This episode features a deep dive into Theodore Dalrymple's 2001 masterpiece "Life at the Bottom," one of Thomas Sowell's favorite books, and one of my all time favorites as well. I strongly suggest you read or listen to this book as soon as possible, You can thank me later. I prefer the audiobook to the written book, just because the audiobook narrator does such a fantastic job.I interview Dalrymple about his book and about his thoughts on Sowell's body of work.Notes to help you get the most out of this episode:• My four favorite Theodore Dalrymple books:1.  "Life at the Bottom" (2001)2. "Our Culture, What's Left of It" (2007)3. "Admirable Evastions"  (2020)4. "Spoilt Rotton"  (2011)Theodore Dalrymple has published over 30 books and has a new book coming out soon.• This episodes' song list; all songs by Eminem.-Lose Yourself instrumental-Lose Yourself original version-Without Me-The Kiss (skit)-Sing for the Moment (with Aerosmith)-Love the Way you Lie (with Rihanna)-Superman-Guilty Conscience-River (with Ed Sheeran)-Lose Yourself orchestralTHERE ARE 4 WAYS TO SUPPORT THE PODCAST:1) Support the show financially by subscribing with a monthly contribution on Patreon:   www.Patreon.com/SowellGeniusThe money raised through Patreon supports our efforts to popularize the books and ideas of Thomas Sowell.----------------------------------------------2) Rate and review the podcast on Apple Podcasts. This helps a lot by nudging the show to the top of Google searches. I really appreciate the many positive reviews, especially this one by Jonsby: "This is one of the few podcasts that I actually slow down so I can savor it!"----------------------------------------------3) Purchase our Thomas Sowell Post It Note pads:  You can find all 250+ digital images of the post it notes HERE, feel free to download them and use them however you like.To purchase pads of printed post it notes, please visit our shop at: GeniusSowell.etsy.com ----------------------------------------------4) NEW! Purchase our Thomas Sowell faux postage stamps, you can see them here: https://x.com/alanwolan/status/1750903763978911931?s=46.To purchase, PayPal $4/sheet of 30 stamps to: WolanAlan@gmail.com.Don't forget to put your mailing address in the PayPal notes section so I know where to send them.I know you have thousands of other podcasts you could be listening to, and I truly appreciate the time and interest you show in mine.Alan WolanSupport the show

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It's an honor to be joined by one of the greatest living thinkers of our time, Dr. Thomas Sowell. In his new book, Social Justice Fallacies, Dr. Sowell debunks some of the biggest myths within the social justice movement.  - - - Get Your DailyWire+ Black Friday Deals Here: https://bit.ly/3QVgtGy - - - Today's Sponsor: Balance of Nature - Start your journey to better health! For a limited time, get 35% off your first order as a preferred customer. Use promo code SHAPIRO at checkout: https://www.balanceofnature.com/