The No Film School Podcast

In this episode of the No Film School Podcast, GG Hawkins welcomes back filmmaker Janek Ambros to dive deep into the wild origin and evolution of his second feature film, Mondo Hollywoodland. The conversation spans everything from a life-changing phone call with Francis Ford Coppola to the chaotic, experimental production process of an iPhone-shot psychedelic satire. Ambros shares how a rogue spirit, a skeleton crew, and the mantra "just make something" powered his creative journey. He also discusses the challenges of distribution, finding a cult audience, and why the edit room is his happy place. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Janek Ambros discuss... How Francis Ford Coppola inspired the DIY ethos behind Mondo Hollywoodland Why the film is more of a spiritual successor than a direct sequel to the 1967 cult doc Mondo Hollywood The experimental, no-crew production process using an iPhone and real locations Casting friends and local oddballs to match the film's bizarre, countercultural tone How the film's editing and narrator shape its chaotic narrative Navigating COVID-era distribution and marketing challenges Ambros's dual approach to career-building: make art, but also think commercially Why learning to produce is essential for emerging filmmakers Memorable Quotes: "You should just make a movie with your iPhone with your friends if you don't have money." "We didn't have a cinematographer. We have a camera op. That's really it." "It was just totally the freest form of filmmaking." "Editing is definitely my favorite part of filmmaking. Everything else is a necessary evil just to edit." Guests: Janek Ambros Resources: More from NFS x Janek Screening Tickets – June 8, 6 p.m. at Lumineer Music Hall, Beverly Hills Mondo Hollywoodland on Letterboxd Assembly Line Entertainment on Instagram: @assemblylineent,  Mondo Hollywoodland on Instagram: @mondohollywoodland Janek on Twitter: @janekambros88 Assembly Line Entertainment on Twitter: @assemblylineent Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram  

This episode of the No Film School Podcast is a deep dive into the often opaque world of film finance, distribution, and foreign pre-sales. GG Hawkins hosts the episode and is joined by filmmakers Stephen Cedars and Benji Kleiman, as well as special guest Mike Chapman from Bluefinch Films. Together, they explore what it takes to get a film made and sold in today's unpredictable global market. From debunking myths about foreign pre-sales to discussing how to attract investors and get your film noticed at festivals, this is an essential listen for indie filmmakers navigating the post-production and sales process. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guests discuss... The harsh realities of the current acquisitions and distribution market Why understanding distribution from the beginning helps you fund your movie The value (and limitations) of foreign pre-sales and cast attachments What sales agents look for in a pitch, and how to present a compelling deck Why comps in pitch decks can be misleading or counterproductive Navigating film festivals and markets like Cannes, Berlin, and Toronto effectively Practical tips for raising money without burning out or making costly mistakes Memorable Quotes: “Nobody knows anything in the film industry.” “Every birth is a miracle. Editors are midwives. We could really keep this metaphor going.” “You've got to be bold. If it just feels like a lower-budget version of something the studio's making, they'll just watch the studio version.” “If it is a good film, it will find a way to cut through.” Guests: Mike Chapman (Bluefinch Films) Stephen Cedars Benji Kleiman Resources: Blue Finch Film Releasing The Wolfpack Deadstream Hundreds of Beavers Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram

On this episode of the No Film School Podcast, GG Hawkins is reporting live from the 2025 Cannes Film Festival alongside a vibrant panel of first-time attendees. Filmmakers Stephen Cedars and Benji Kleiman, and producer Lexi Tannenholtz reflect on the chaos, surprises, and serendipity of navigating Cannes for the first time. From deciphering the market to running into unexpected industry contacts, they explore the overwhelming yet exhilarating world of one of the most prestigious film festivals in the world. This episode is packed with practical advice for emerging filmmakers hoping to make the most of a trip to Cannes. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guests discuss... What it means to “have a movie” at Cannes and the nuances between screening, sales, and market presence How the Cannes Film Festival is actually multiple events in one—red carpets, markets, pavilions, and more The unique experience of The Marché du Film and what it teaches about global film distribution Serendipitous encounters and the power of just showing up prepared and open to connection The social dynamics of the festival and why dressing the part can be as important as showing up Tips for navigating Cannes for first-timers—from parties to planning to staying present The balance between networking and being respectful in professional interactions Memorable Quotes: "I feel like I've learned more in the last six days than I have in the last six years." "Prepare yourself for good luck.” "Don't try to get an apple tree on day one of planting the seed." "The festival is a celebration of art, but the market is all business." Guests: Stephen Cedars Benji Kleiman Lexi Tannenholtz Resources: Goodside: Affordable housing for filmmakers at major festivals Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram

Dean Fleischer Camp, the Oscar-nominated filmmaker behind Marcel the Shell with Shoes On, joins GG Hawkins on this episode of the No Film School Podcast to discuss his journey from indie auteur to directing Disney's live-action Lilo & Stitch. Camp delves into the emotional and technical challenges of maintaining character integrity, scaling up production, and bringing heart and authenticity to a beloved IP. From personal anecdotes about his early filmmaking days to deep dives into character animation and working with child actors, this episode is a must-listen for aspiring filmmakers and animation fans alike. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Dean Fleischer Camp discuss... How Dean's background in editing and indie filmmaking shaped his directorial approach The creative transition from Marcel the Shell to Lilo & Stitch Capturing the emotional depth and soul of Stitch in a live-action format The importance of involving original creators in adaptations Directing child actors and creating real interactions with animated characters The casting and character development of Nani, Lilo's sister Practical advice for emerging filmmakers navigating their first projects Memorable Quotes: “Even the most exacting director... gets like 30% of what they set out to get exactly in their mind's eye.” “You can feed the animated Stitch through the live-action machine... but if you don't put any care into it, it actually has the opposite effect.” “Don't wait for permission to make something... That's an order.” Guest: Dean Fleischer Camp Mentioned in this episode: Experience Camps Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram  

In this episode of the No Film School Podcast, GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman tackle breaking news, unpacking President Trump's proposed 100% tariff on foreign-made films and what it could mean for the future of Hollywood. Then, GG takes us to the heart of indie filmmaking with a vibrant live conversation from Cinema Columbus, where filmmakers Michael Polk, Sam Dunning, and Kelsey Lea Jones share war stories, festival lessons, and the power of regional cinema in a shifting industry. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman, and guests discuss... The implications of Trump's proposed 100% tariff on foreign film and TV productions How international tax incentives affect where Hollywood makes movies The economic and cultural risks of isolating American film audiences The live indie filmmaking experience from Cinema Columbus The production and festival journeys of “Canoe Dig It” and “Say As I Say” Creative strategies for self-distribution and building regional audiences How unexpected moments during indie shoots add authenticity and charm Memorable Quotes: "You don't need to jail artists to silence them. You just make their work impossible to afford." "Let's solve this problem with a real solution and not just with bluster." "If you can't give indie filmmakers money, the most valuable other thing you can do is to rate and review our movies." "We just don't want it to disappear… even if we don't make a dime." Guests: Michael Polk Sam Dunning Kelsey Lea Jones Resources: Canoe Dig it? Say As I Say No Film School: What Do Studio Heads Have to Say About The Hollywood Tariffs? Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram  

In this episode, GG Hawkins of No Film School sits down with Ben Roberts, Chief Executive of the British Film Institute (BFI), for a powerful conversation on the cultural and creative necessity of film preservation. As the BFI celebrates the 90th anniversary of its National Archive and launches its new BFI America initiative, Roberts shares deep insights into the archival process, global collaboration, and the evolving role of film as both art and artifact. From rediscovering rare prints to the vital importance of archiving even digital work, this episode offers an inspiring call to action for filmmakers and cinephiles alike. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Ben Roberts discuss... Why film preservation matters more than ever in the digital age The significance of BFI's National Archive turning 90 Rare film prints like Jaws and Mildred Pierce hidden in BFI's vaults How the BFI selects films for restoration and the stories behind those choices The launch of BFI America and its goals for international collaboration Practical advice for emerging filmmakers attending international markets like Cannes or Berlin Why preserving your own creative process is as important as the work itself Memorable Quotes: "The archive is full of treasures." "Just make stuff, practice, practice, practice, without feeling like this is going to be your big break." "Keep everything. Keep your emails, keep notes... One day when you're the greatest filmmaker on the planet, we will want it all." "You've got to think about the global industry and the global culture, because to get stuff made, there are so many ways to collaborate internationally." Resources: BFI Player Classics BFI.org.uk Sight & Sound Magazine Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the No Film School Podcast, GG Hawkins hosts a conversation with filmmakers Annapurna Sriram ("Fucktoys") and Alex Burunova ("Satisfaction"). Fresh from their South by Southwest premieres, they open up about the challenges and triumphs of making their first feature films independently. From the loneliness of directing to finding creative collaborators, the trio shares the real, raw experience of being “in the thick of it” during production and beyond. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guests discuss... Why making a first feature feels like living on an island — literally and metaphorically The emotional rollercoaster of independent filmmaking and the power of perseverance The origins of "Fucktoys" and "Satisfaction," and how personal experiences inspired the films Casting without “named talent” and the importance of authentic performances How microbudget hacks, from thrift store shopping to strategic returns, kept productions alive The importance of finding your “spiritual warriors” (aka collaborators who get it) How to carry the lessons of your first feature into your next project Memorable Quotes: “If you can see all the heartbreak ahead, I don't know that anybody would climb the mountain.” “You're not the first person to deal with a catastrophe — every person deals with it.” “Be a scout. Be a badass. Discover undiscovered talent.” “The gap in the teeth leads to the heart. It's all a map.” Guests: Annapurna Sriram (Director, Writer, Lead Actor of Fucktoys) Alex Burunova (Director, Writer of Satisfaction) Resources: Fucktoys on Instagram: @fucktoysthemovie Satisfaction on Instagram: @satisfactionfilm I Really Love My Husband on Instagram: @ireallylovemyhusbandmovie Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram

In this two-part episode of the No Film School Podcast, hosts GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman dive into the success of Ryan Coogler's new original film Sinners, a box office hit that marks a significant moment for original storytelling in Hollywood. They explore Coogler's strategic career trajectory from shorts to studio features, examining what emerging filmmakers can learn from his path. Later in the episode, GG takes us back to the 2022 Sundance Film Festival with an interview featuring director Sing J. Lee. They discuss his debut feature, The Accidental Getaway Driver, and the deeply personal journey behind its creation, from a 10-year music video career to a rapid eight-week co-writing process, and the film's intimate portrayal of cultural duality and human connection. In this episode we discuss... The box office and cultural impact of Ryan Coogler's Sinners Coogler's path from indie shorts to studio blockbusters The importance of building a team and sustaining collaborations Crafting and maintaining a personal voice within the studio system GG's interview with director Sing J. Lee about his feature debut The intersection of personal history and narrative storytelling in The Accidental Getaway Driver Sing's transition from music videos to feature filmmaking Writing and directing with emotional and cultural authenticity Memorable Quotes: "It's been a long time since something original entered the cultural lexicon." "Artists should work on something that not only matters to them but that the world needs to hear about." "We're looking for the vessel for where our voice might be best suited." "You've already done so much work, whether you know it or not." Guest: Sing J. Lee – IMDb Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram

Director Mimi Cave joins No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest co-host Madison Lanesey for a candid conversation about her path from dance to directing, maintaining artistic vision in the studio system, and fostering a grounded and collaborative atmosphere on set. Mimi opens up about the emotional rollercoaster of filmmaking, the practical steps she takes to craft immersive visual tones, and how she cultivates trust with her actors and crew. The episode offers a rare glimpse into the behind-the-scenes processes of her features Fresh and Holland, along with valuable insights for emerging filmmakers. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins, guest co-host Madison Lanesey, and guest Mimi Cave discuss... Mimi's creative origins in dance and how it led her into filmmaking The challenges and strategies of transitioning from indie to studio features Post-feature emotional “off-boarding” and how to manage the crash Establishing a calm and collaborative environment on set How she works with actors and tailors her directing approach to each personality Maintaining creative control within the studio system The importance of curiosity, asking questions, and embracing not knowing Building strong collaborative relationships with DPs, editors, and producers Memorable Quotes: "You get addicted to that... being needed all day is really amazing." "Take everything two days at a time... Anything after that's going to change anyways." "I walked into the set and I was like, you could hear a pin drop... it was so peaceful." "Some of the best filmmakers ever are some of the most unique, nerdy, freaky, out there people." Guest: Mimi Cave Resources: Fresh – Available on Hulu Holland – Available on Amazon Prime Video Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 

Writer-director Christopher Landon joins No Film School's GG Hawkins to discuss his newest film Drop, a sharp, suspenseful thriller starring Meghann Fahy. Known for genre-bending films like Happy Death Day, Freaky, and We Have a Ghost, Landon dives deep into his evolution as a filmmaker, how he overcame early failures, the importance of authenticity in storytelling, and the meticulous craft behind building tension. Landon also opens up about creating a supportive environment on set, casting with intuition, and how trusting his gut has shaped his career. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Christopher Landon discuss: How Christopher Landon's love of horror movies began as a kid Early career failures and how they became pivotal learning moments Writing and selling Disturbia and joining the Paranormal Activity franchise The "feel-good horror" tone he discovered with Happy Death Day How Drop evolved from script to final film Shooting in sequence to elevate performances The importance of a supportive, no-asshole policy set How trusting his gut guides casting, shooting, and script decisions Advice for emerging filmmakers working within the studio system Memorable Quotes: "Failure is the greatest teacher." "If it ain't on the page, it ain't on the stage." "Casting is the one thing where I tune everybody out. I have to know it in my marrow." "Hollywood is seductive — don't chase the shiny things." Guest: Christopher Landon Resources: The 7 Best Plot Twists of All Time Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram

What don't they tell you? They you gotta take a break! In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman sit down with editor Max Goldblatt, who cut the heartfelt and hilarious indie road trip film Sacramento. Directed by Michael Angarano and starring Michael Cera, Kristen Stewart, and Maya Erskine, the film made waves at Tribeca and has since garnered a devoted following. Max shares how he got into editing, his long-time collaboration with Angarano, and offers invaluable insight into the nuanced craft of post-production—especially on a tight budget and timeline. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman, and guest Max Goldblatt discuss... How Max and director Michael Angarano formed their creative bond through music The challenges and victories of licensing a Rolling Stones song for an indie film Editorial techniques like split compositions and how they elevate performance Why taking breaks during the edit can lead to better storytelling Max's unconventional path into editing and the moment he almost walked away from filmmaking The balance between instinct and structure when cutting complex character scenes Memorable Quotes: “Michael kind of broke the cardinal rule of putting a song in the script.” “Sometimes there's just this alchemy when you choose something maybe almost at random.” “I was about to quit trying to pursue film period before I was connected with Mike Angarano.” “Sometimes it takes feedback or questions that people have about characters, and you realize that the answer was there all along.” Guests: Max Goldblatt Resources: Sacramento on IMDb Michael Angarano's first film, Avenues Robert Schwartzman's film The Argument Jason Hellerman's article on "Man on a Mission" stories Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram

In this episode, GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman tackle the timely question of whether production in Los Angeles is truly back, despite rising costs and the lure of tax incentives elsewhere. They also host a special Sundance DP Roundtable, featuring cinematographers from some of the festival's most talked-about films. These filmmakers share the stories of how they landed their gigs, the creative and technical choices behind their work, and how shooting on location posed unique challenges and opportunities. From the reality of Stay in LA initiatives to working with first-time directors and navigating quick turnarounds or even war-related production pivots, this episode is a deep dive into the craft and chaos of cinematography today. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman, and guests discuss... The current state of film production in Los Angeles and whether it's really “back” Tax incentives drawing productions to places like Ireland, Canada, and Texas The emotional and practical toll of filming far from home Behind-the-scenes challenges of indie productions and festival films How DPs landed their Sundance jobs and their strategies for collaboration with directors Favorite gear, lenses, and technical decisions from Sundance cinematographers Working with non-actors, shooting in unpredictable locations, and reacting in real time Tools, workflows, and prep habits DPs rely on when heading into production Guests: Adolpho Veloso – DP of Train Dreams Mia Cioffi Henry – DP of Sorry, Baby Ethan Palmer – DP of Plainclothes Christopher Aoun – DP of All That's Left of You Memorable Quotes: "I always say prepping like that is like studying for an exam, and then it's like not an open book test.” "You either are not going to sleep because you're working long hours, or because you're anxious because you're not working." "Some of the best stuff that's come my way has been very low budget." Resources: California's “Stay in LA” push for local production The new hubs becoming “Hollywood” around the world Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 

No Film School founder and director Ryan Koo flips the script in this special episode, interviewing regular podcast host GG Hawkins about the world premiere of her feature film I Really Love My Husband at the 2025 SXSW Film Festival. GG shares her whirlwind experience of showcasing her first feature, from managing the chaos of festival logistics and marketing, to the overwhelming response from audiences and peers alike. This episode offers a candid, behind-the-scenes look at what it's really like to premiere at a major festival, how to prepare, and what filmmakers can learn to maximize their presence. In this episode, No Film School's Ryan Koo and GG Hawkins discuss... GG's emotional and logistical journey leading up to the world premiere of her film How SXSW's ticketing and badge system works—and how to prep for packed screenings Tips for marketing your film and working with PR ahead of a major festival The importance of pacing, wardrobe strategy, and managing energy during festival week Lessons learned from networking, screenings, and audience feedback A broader look at SXSW as a convergence of film, tech, and immersive media Memorable Quotes: "One of the best things you can do for yourself is have your family come to the second and third screening." (05:49) "If you make a movie and nobody sees it, what's the point?" (08:32) "Don't get a perm before your premiere." (17:01) "I didn't know I would be in sort of like a therapy support situation, which is awesome that the movie resonated with folks that way." (24:00) "This is the truest form for what it'll be in the long game—people who don't know me are going to sit back and watch and not know what's going to happen." (28:45) Resources: The Cameras Behind the Films of SXSW 2025 How to Shoot Your Feature in Three Months or Less Everything You Need to Know About Editing and Post-Production Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 

In this episode, GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman present a roundtable discussion with independent filmmakers Daniel Talbot, Sav Rogers, and Mikko Mäkelä. These three creatives share their unique journeys in the film industry, highlighting the importance of queer cinema, mentorship, and community. They discuss the challenges of gatekeeping, the power of DIY filmmaking, and the need for filmmakers to take control of their own greenlighting process. From premiering at Sundance and Tribeca to navigating the ever-changing landscape of independent film distribution, this episode offers a deep dive into the resilience and creativity required to make films outside the traditional Hollywood system. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman, Daniel Talbot, Sav Rogers, and Mikko Mäkelä discuss: [00:07] GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman introduce the episode, recorded ahead of South by Southwest [00:41] Introducing the roundtable guests: Daniel Talbot, Sav Rogers, and Mikko Mäkelä [01:06] The unique journeys of each filmmaker and their impact on queer cinema [01:30] Challenges in the independent film landscape, including gatekeeping and DIY filmmaking [02:24] The importance of self-greenlighting and not waiting for permission [03:12] Balancing artistic expression with the business side of filmmaking [10:44] The role of mentorship and community in helping emerging queer filmmakers [15:14] Strategies for inspiring industry gatekeepers to invest in queer stories [22:21] Navigating meetings with executives and dealing with industry fears [26:40] How the collapse of the streaming acquisition model affects independent filmmakers [28:17] The importance of finding ways to share resources and build a film community [31:42] Embracing both DIY filmmaking and larger-scale projects in tandem [33:13] How a filmmaker's unique voice is their most valuable asset [34:11] Moments when the filmmakers had to greenlight themselves [41:57] The experience of sharing personal work with an audience [47:10] How independent queer films resonate with unexpected audiences [52:14] The power of queer filmmakers supporting one another [53:38] How audiences can better support independent queer cinema [56:02] What's next for Daniel, Sav, and Mikko Memorable Quotes: "The ability to go out and shoot your own work is the way to prove that people are interested, to prove that things are important." "Don't ask for permission. Make it, go do it, find the audience, bring them in, prove everybody wrong." "We are as complicated and human as anyone else on this planet. Get to know our stories and be uncomfortable with it." "For queer cinema to stay authentic and radical, it will, by necessity, most often be made in a DIY spirit." Guests Daniel Talbot Sav Rogers Mikko Mäkelä Find Out More: Watch Chasing, Chasing Amy by Sav Rogers: Available on streaming platforms and through libraries on Kanopy Transgender Film Center Explore Mikko Mäkelä's work: www.mikkomakayla.com Follow Daniel Talbot on Instagram: @DanielCameronTalbot More from No Film School: Visit NoFilmSchool.com for industry news, interviews, and filmmaking resources. Have a question or topic suggestion? Email us: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, we dive into the editing process behind Daughters, the heart-wrenching and beautifully crafted documentary that follows four young girls preparing for a father-daughter dance with their incarcerated fathers. Editors Troy Lewis and Adelina Bichis take us inside their process, from shaping the raw footage to balancing the film's emotional weight and ensuring the story was told ethically and collaboratively. Daughters premiered at Sundance, is shortlisted for the Academy Awards, and is now streaming on Netflix. If you haven't seen it yet, this conversation will give you a whole new appreciation for the craftsmanship behind the film. In this episode, No Film Schools's GG Hawkins, Troy Lewis, and Adelina Bichis discuss: [00:08] Listener emails about breaking into Hollywood and finding confidence as a filmmaker [01:59] Introduction to Daughters and its powerful impact [02:57] The unique editing process, with Troy shaping the early cuts and Adelina refining the final version [08:47] How they structured the massive amount of footage into a cohesive story [16:45] Using index cards, beat sheets, and writing techniques in documentary editing [19:02] The challenges of weaving together multiple character arcs [30:37] Ethics in documentary filmmaking and ensuring psychological safety for subjects [35:42] The portrayal of masculinity and fatherhood in Daughters [38:34] Editing tools and techniques that helped shape the final cut [50:17] Advice for aspiring editors and documentary filmmakers Memorable Quotes “The girls were so strong, everything was so moving… I thought, ‘This is a film I want to be part of.'” “We wanted to keep interviews to a minimum and really focus on verité scenes, almost as narrative film scenes.” “It was important for the film to view them as fathers first and foremost.” “We had to make sure that every part shown in the film had its place there, that it truly belonged.” Guests Troy Lewis Adelina Bichis Resources Watch the Daughters trailer Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this special episode of No Film School, GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman dive into the Amazon acquisition of James Bond, what it means for the future of the franchise, and whether Bond spin-offs are inevitable. They also discuss IP fatigue and how streamers are expanding globally to combat it. Then, filmmaker Elle Roth-Brunet joins the show to talk about her unconventional journey into producing, demystifying indie film financing, and why tough conversations are essential in production. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman, and Elle Roth-Brunet discuss: The history of James Bond's ownership and what Amazon's billion-dollar deal changes The risk of oversaturation—is Bond headed toward Marvel/Star Wars territory? The global market shift that keeps franchise fatigue at bay How Bond's new freedom could lure filmmakers like Christopher Nolan Elle Roth-Brunet's journey from marketing to film producing The reality of indie film financing—debt vs. equity vs. deficit financing The importance of clear producer roles in today's industry Guests: Elle Roth-Brunet – Producer of I Really Love My Husband and indie film advocate. Memorable Quotes: “James Bond movies are always events. But if you keep pouring water into the gin bottle, at some point, it's just water.” (04:51) “Filmmaking is 95% business and 5% creative. If you don't understand the business, you're not in control of your own movie.” (56:39) “The biggest lesson I learned? Hard conversations lead to breakthroughs. If you avoid them, you stall progress.” (22:45) “Boat Day was the most stressful day in theory—and then ended up being the easiest. The day we didn't stress over? That was the hardest.” (26:33) Resources: Every James Bond Film, Ranked Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram

In this episode of No Film School, GG Hawkins sits down with Jérôme Eltabet, the editor of the Oscar-nominated body horror film The Substance. Jérôme shares his journey from assistant director to editor, detailing his work with director Coralie Fargeat to bring The Substance to life. He breaks down the editing challenges, the importance of sound design, and why cutting a horror film is all about creating an immersive experience. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and Jérôme Eltabet discuss: How Jérôme transitioned from assistant director to editor What it was like editing 300+ hours of footage for The Substance How sound design and score shaped the film's tension The massive changes from the first cut to the final version How the film's themes influenced its pacing and cutting style The collaborative dynamic between Jérôme and director Coralie Fargeat Memorable Quotes: “I do remember I gave a call to Coralie to say, ‘Oh, this movie is going to be very long.' And she told me, ‘Shh, don't tell anyone! We'll talk about this later in the edit room.'” (8:38) “We had maybe 150 different versions of some sequences because Coralie needs to have the kind of goosebumps to like it. It's not something you can explain—she just has to feel it.” (10:29) “Coralie didn't want any realistic sounds. Everything had to be slightly off. The world needed to feel unnatural, unsettling—like something was always wrong.” (13:14) “The first rough cut was three and a half hours. Coralie wanted a perfect edit, a perfect sound design, so we fought to get the movie as tight as possible without losing its impact.” (32:10) “As an editor, you are the first audience. You have to trust your instincts, because six months later, after watching the same footage over and over, you'll start doubting yourself.” (37:47) Guest: Jérôme Eltabet – Editor of The Substance, known for his precise, immersive approach to editing horror and psychological thrillers. Resources: The Substance – Ending Explained The Substance – Lookbook Read & Download The Substance Screenplay Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram

In this episode of No Film School, GG Hawkins sits down with Erin Brown Thomas, the director of Chasers, a 30-minute single-take short that played both Sundance and Slamdance 2025. Erin shares how she navigated festival promotion, the complexities of grassroots outreach, and why personalized marketing is critical for indie filmmakers. She also dives into the deeper themes of Chasers, which explores red flags in dating and the hustle culture of the entertainment industry. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and Erin Brown Thomas discuss: How Chasers came to life and why Erin chose the oner format Her experience at Sundance and prepping for Slamdance in Los Angeles Why festival outreach feels like producing another film How she balances multiple roles in the industry while keeping her projects moving The financial realities of indie filmmaking and how to fundraise creatively Why personalized outreach is critical for making industry connections Memorable Quotes: “I spent most of my time at Sundance doing grassroots promotion for Chasers, but certain opportunities were just also really, really fun. We did a lot of panels. The panels in particular were like my favorite thing. We did a flash mob on Main Street—that was so much fun.” (2:50) “You're really looking at like a full-time job as if you're making a whole other movie when you have an opportunity to play on this larger scale.” (3:16) “Every email you write, you want it to be bespoke. You want it to be personal. Everything needs to be done with grace and intention, walking that fine balance of being really confident that you're in the right place but also being, you know, grateful.” (4:08) “It's always so much easier to stand up for yourself when somebody else who loves you is in the room. And by putting a film like this out into the open, I'm having those discussions with people who care about me.” (21:16) Guest: Erin Brown Thomas – Director of Chasers, festival programmer, and multi-hyphenate filmmaker passionate about lifting up other creatives. Resources: Chasers Film – Official Linktree Extraction 2 Director Sam Hargrave on Oners, Stunts, and Filmmaking All No Film School Articles on Oners Erin Brown Thomas on IMDb Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram

In this episode of No Film School, host GG Hawkins sits down with Robert Schwartzman, producer of The Last Showgirl and co-founder of Utopia, to discuss the evolving landscape of independent cinema. As a filmmaker, distributor, and problem solver, Robert shares insights on how indie filmmakers can take control of their distribution, why the industry is shifting toward self-releasing, and what's next for Utopia. In this episode, No Film School's Jason Hellerman and Robert Schwartzman discuss: The evolving landscape of indie film distribution and the role of technology in direct-to-audience releases How Utopia is working to eliminate middlemen and empower filmmakers The importance of theatrical releases for indie films, despite industry shifts The inspiration behind The Last Showgirl and why Las Vegas was the perfect setting How finding creative solutions—from locations to costumes—can elevate a low-budget film Why international filmmakers have a competitive edge in today's market Memorable Quotes: “I think filmmakers need to also get hip to the idea of like, oh, there's all these places I can sell my film, but I still need to reach them. Like no one's gonna just give me an audience, I need to find them.” (18:35) “The playing field is so level right now, that's what's so exciting about it. Like it's anyone's game. People just have to be willing to play it.” (20:55) “There will come a time when a movie is self-released using these new technologies and it will be nominated for something significant… That's when people are really going to come around to it.” (22:50) “You're not going to get everything you want in filmmaking. The key is knowing what you absolutely need and what you can live without.” (51:07) “If you shoot a movie quickly, the opportunity cost for people goes down.” (55:01) Guest: Robert Schwartzman – Producer of The Last Showgirl, co-founder of Utopia, and filmmaker known for Dreamland and The Unicorn. Resources: The Last Showgirl Official Trailer Utopia Distribution AltaVod – Self-Distribute Your Film PowerFlix – Aggregation Services for Indie Filmmakers Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram

In this episode of No Film School, GG Hawkins sits down with writer-director Drew Hancock to discuss his journey to directing his feature debut, Companion. Drew shares how he built his career through persistence, taking creative risks, and, as he puts it, a fair amount of luck. He also reflects on finding success later in his career, how imposter syndrome nearly led him to quit, and the importance of self-awareness for filmmakers navigating the industry. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and Drew Hancock discuss: The unconventional path Drew took from being a movie theater employee to a feature director Why Channel 101 played a pivotal role in his development as a filmmaker How Companion started as a writing sample and evolved into a feature film The role of luck and timing in getting a project greenlit in Hollywood Why filmmakers need to continuously create new work rather than banking on a single project Drew's writing process and how working on multiple projects at once helps combat writers block The importance of self-awareness and confidence in overcoming career obstacles Memorable Quotes: “I mean, I'm an old man, so it's a long, long, long journey that got me to this place right now. But the beginnings were just… I was a super fan of movies.” (2:32) “I wish I really, really wish that luck didn't play such a huge part of making entertainment, but yeah, it has a lot to do with timing.” (22:53) “Every couple years, sit down and ask yourself: Are you where you want to be? If you're not, what can you do to get there? Take stock. Measure the gap. And then do everything you can to close it.” (47:00) “Imposter syndrome is real. I almost gave up before Companion. I really almost did.” (46:02) “Make something. Don't make it about a film festival or about getting recognition. Make it about something you care about deeply.” (38:51) Resources: Drew Hancock on IMDb Companion Official Trailer Channel 101 – The Filmmaking Community That Helped Shape Drew Hancock Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram

In this episode of No Film School, GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman bring you a special live report from the 2025 Sundance Film Festival in Park City, Utah. They explore the energy of the festival, highlight standout films, and dive into the journey of filmmakers who have pushed through industry challenges to bring their visions to the screen. Joining the conversation are the creators behind Didn't Die, a unique take on the zombie apocalypse that blends horror, dark humor, and indie filmmaking ingenuity. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman, and guests discuss: The evolving landscape of independent cinema at Sundance and what trends are emerging in 2025 How Didn't Die offers a fresh, meta take on the zombie apocalypse through the lens of a struggling podcast host The challenges of making an indie film with a limited budget, including DIY visual effects and multi-hat roles Reflections on how filmmakers navigate festival submissions and distribution The broader state of the film industry and the importance of resilience as an independent filmmaker Memorable Quotes: “I mean, definitely story-wise, what inspired me about working on The Walking Dead was like, my episode had a couple of different storylines that I thought were really sweet… And I think this idea of like a zombie movie that was more about finding meaning through the devastation and darkness was compelling to me.” “It's a zombie apocalypse, and our protagonist is still recording a podcast. It's about holding onto what you love, even when the world is falling apart.” “You pull favors, you adapt, and you embrace the chaos. That's how we made this movie happen.” Guests: Meera Menon – Co-writer and Director of Didn't Die Erica Fishman – Producer of Didn't Die Paul Gleason – Co-writer and Cinematographer of Didn't Die Resources: Sundance 2025 Film Festival Lineup No Film School's Sundance 2025 Coverage Episode: Invisible Work of Producers Plus Sundance Slate 2025 Sundance 2025: Editor Benjamin Shearn On Using Premiere Pro and Frame.io to Bring 'By Design' to Life The VFX Secrets Behind Lush Sundance Short 'Em & Selma Go Griffin Hunting' Bringing Mexico's Vibrant Culture to Life in Sundance Short Film 'Susana' Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram

GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman talk with Seth Gordon, the celebrated writer-director behind Back in Action, Horrible Bosses, and The King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters. Seth shares the joys and challenges of creating large-scale films, balancing action and comedy, and his insights into leadership and creativity. This episode is packed with practical advice for emerging filmmakers and candid reflections on Seth's career journey. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman, and Seth Gordon discuss: How Seth approaches directing large-scale films while staying focused on the story's essence Why removing distractions is key to immersing yourself in the creative process The importance of starting with the story and building everything else around it Balancing meticulous planning with room for spontaneity and collaboration on set Why aspiring filmmakers should focus on creating something deeply meaningful, rather than chasing external recognition Memorable Quotes: “My phone is always off. I don't even answer the phone anymore... The interruptions throw me off... What works for me is to disappear into a tiny sort of working environment and then get lost in one detail at a time.” “Make something. Don't make it about a film festival or about getting recognition. Make it about something you care about deeply.” “It didn't start with a crew of 300 and dealing with the Thames river and weather in England and whatever. It started with a piece of paper and excitement about a story.” Resources: Seth Gordon on IMDb Back in Action Trailer Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of No Film School, GG Hawkins sits down with filmmakers Sarah Mokh, Steven Cedars, Benji Kleiman, and Imran J. Khan to discuss navigating the South by Southwest (SXSW) Film Festival. With insights from seasoned festival veterans, this episode offers practical advice and candid reflections on how to make the most of a festival experience, whether you're a first-timer or a returning filmmaker. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guests discuss: The importance of preparation before attending a festival and knowing how to pitch yourself and your project. How to pace yourself and avoid burnout over the course of a week-long festival. The value of publicists in boosting your film's visibility and managing PR. Stories and lessons from navigating previous festivals, including Sundance and SXSW. Audience engagement strategies to make your screenings successful. Memorable Quotes: Steven Cedars: “South by Southwest is the most fun film festival in the entire world… It's your first time, and it'll be your only first time here.” (25:02) Imran J. Khan: “Any movie, even a feature, is still kind of just an audition for another thing… You have to figure out what's next and be ready to talk about it.” (17:10) Benji Kleiman: “You need to have some talking points ready—what do you want people to say about your movie? That's what's going to make it into print.” (41:10) Guests: Sarah Mokh: Filmmaker behind Cigarettes, premiering in the SXSW Independent Pilot Competition. Steven Cedars: Co-director of Snatchers, a horror-comedy that premiered at SXSW. Benji Kleiman: Co-director of Snatchers and veteran of multiple SXSW screenings. Imran J. Khan: Director of Mustache, winner of the SXSW Audience Award. Resources: SXSW Film Festival Lineup Follow I Really Love My Husband: Instagram Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the No Film School podcast, hosts GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman discuss the devastating fires in Los Angeles and their impact on the film industry. They share personal experiences of evacuation and the emotional toll of the crisis, emphasizing the importance of community support and resilience. The conversation highlights the need for filmmakers to prioritize their safety and mental health while navigating the uncertain future of the industry. They also explore the power of storytelling as a means of processing trauma and fostering empathy in challenging times. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of No Film School, GG Hawkins speaks with the filmmakers behind two impactful films, Hazard and Studio One Forever. Writer-director Eddie Mensore shares the journey of creating Hazard, an indie drama about the opioid crisis in Appalachia, and how leaving LA led to the film's 40-theater release. Later, Marc Saltarelli discusses the acclaimed LGBTQ+ documentary Studio One Forever, exploring its historical significance and enduring legacy. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins, Eddie Mensore, and Marc Saltarelli discuss: How Eddie's move away from LA revitalized his career and allowed him to focus on meaningful indie films The challenges and triumphs of making Hazard, a deeply personal story about the opioid crisis Marc's experience documenting LGBTQ+ history through Studio One Forever and the film's resonance in today's political climate Advice for filmmakers navigating the industry outside of traditional Hollywood structures Memorable Quotes: “As an independent filmmaker, it's not about what's the most passionate project you want to make. It's about which one can you physically make.” “I hope that the younger generation will take a little bit of time out from TikTok and watch these 90 minutes and realize what we went through—and what's at stake.” “I had to take a few steps backward, I believe that I'm ultimately taking 10 steps forward.” Resources: Hazard Official Website Hazard Theatrical Release Studio One Forever Official Trailer STUDIO ONE FOREVER is the untold story of America's first gay disco, a kaleidoscopic excursion into LGBTQ+ history through the lens of this groundbreaking club. Directed by Marc Saltarelli, the film features interviews with Chita Rivera, Bruce Vilanch, Lance Bass, and others. Eddie Mensore on IMDb Marc Saltarelli on IMDb Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of No Film School, GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman chat with John August, an acclaimed screenwriter, podcaster, and software developer. Known for films like Big Fish and Aladdin, as well as co-hosting Scriptnotes with Craig Mazin, John August discusses his career, the evolution of screenwriting tools, and how he's simplifying life for writers with his app, Highland. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman, and John August discuss: John's journey from journalism major to one of Hollywood's most recognized screenwriters How working across different mediums—from novels to musicals—has shaped his storytelling The philosophy behind creating Highland, a screenwriting app designed to keep writers in the flow Practical advice for writers starting out in today's industry Memorable Quotes: “Your ability to have an idea but then actually articulate the idea… to yourself, to your team, and to the audience is so fundamental and so important.” “When I see something in the world that bothers me, I try to fix it. My instinct is to get involved and figure it out.” “A screenplay is a luxury. You know you have about 120 pages. There are constraints, and those constraints help you figure out what's important.” Resources: John August on IMDb Highland App Scriptnotes Podcast Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of No Film School, GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman sit down with acclaimed director James Mangold to dive into the making of his latest film, A Complete Unknown. Known for iconic works like Logan and Ford v Ferrari, Mangold shares deep insights into his creative process, the importance of preparation, and how he navigates the complexities of storytelling. This holiday special offers invaluable lessons for filmmakers at every level. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman, and James Mangold discuss: How Mangold approached depicting Bob Dylan's relationships with iconic figures like Woody Guthrie and Johnny Cash The value of mentorship in filmmaking and how Alexander Mackendrick influenced Mangold's career Finding the balance between preparation and flexibility when directing Mangold's advice for capturing subtext and the unspoken dynamics between characters The art of juxtaposition and how to craft impactful scene transitions Memorable Quotes: “You come to the set with a plan, but your actors are gonna add a lot, and you don't want to be so slavish, so enslaved by your plan that you feel lost if an idea comes up with one of the actors that undermines the plan you came with.” “The point for the director is to make everything look like you planned it—even if you didn't.” “What is the scene about, and what are the beats I must make sure the audience sees? Not lines, but what's unsaid—the subtext, the human thought behind the eyes.” Resources: James Mangold on IMDb Microbudget Workshop with GG Hawkins Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of No Film School, Jason Hellerman interviews Tyler Nielsen and Michael Schwartz, the dynamic directing duo behind the bold and provocative film Los Frikis. Known for their previous success with Peanut Butter Falcon, Tyler and Michael take listeners on a journey into the making of their latest project—a darkly comedic and deeply human tale about the Los Frikis generation in 1990s Cuba. The film explores themes of rebellion, freedom, and survival, centering on punks who willfully injected HIV to escape oppression. In this episode, No Film School's Jason Hellerman, Tyler Nielsen, and Michael Schwartz discuss: How Tyler and Michael transitioned from Peanut Butter Falcon to Los Frikis The challenge of balancing dark humor with historical and cultural authenticity Why the directors learned Spanish to ensure authenticity in directing Cuban actors Their approach to punk rock aesthetics, both musically and visually, in the film Practical advice for filmmakers tackling deeply unconventional and emotional stories Memorable Quotes: “Punk rock is choosing freedom and choosing, like, your reality, regardless of the authorities or the powers that be.” “If you task the audience with remembering 10 things, they might remember the wrong five. So we focused on the five things that mattered most.” “We really just try to set a vibe. The vibe matches the story. And then we invite people to bring themselves to it.” Resources: Microbudget Workshop with GG Hawkins Tyler Nielsen IMDb Michael Schwartz IMDb Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this special episode of No Film School, GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman delve into the often-overlooked role of producers and the essential work they perform behind the scenes. They are joined by Emmy-nominated producer Carolina Groppa, who shares insights from her remarkable career. The episode also highlights key films from the newly announced Sundance 2025 slate, offering reflections on the festival's evolving influence. Meet Carolina Groppa: Carolina is an Emmy-nominated producer who was previously the Executive in Charge of Production at Issa Rae's HOORAE Media and ColorCreative. Born in São Paulo, Brazil, Carolina moved to the US as a child, and her immigrant upbringing inspired her to work hard to build the career of her dreams. Carolina produced the 2017 Emmy-nominated feature documentary AUTISM IN LOVE, which explores how adults with autism find and navigate romantic relationships. Passionate about supporting female filmmakers, she was a co-producer on Netflix's MISS VIRGINIA, starring Uzo Aduba, and IFC's THE FEMALE BRAIN, Whitney Cummings' directorial debut. She was a physical producer on Amazon's SYLVIE'S LOVE, starring Tessa Thompson and Nnamdi Asomugha, and the UPM/EP on Adamma Ebo's 2022 Sundance hit HONK FOR JESUS. SAVE YOUR SOUL, starring Regina Hall and Sterling K. Brown. She also produced the documentaries HYSTERICAL (2020) for FX and THE HONORABLE: SHYNE (2024) for Hulu. Additionally, she is the creator, host, and producer of ANGLE ON PRODUCERS, a podcast spotlighting producers across entertainment. A love letter to the creative community, the show boasts over 95 episodes and has featured notable guests such as Eva Longoria, Stephanie Allain, Lynette Howell Taylor, and Cynthia Erivo. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman, and Carolina Groppa discuss: Carolina Groppa's career journey, from her early days as an actor to becoming a producer and podcast host The invisible yet critical role of producers and why their contributions are often misunderstood Practical advice for emerging producers, including navigating challenges and building strong collaborations Reflections on the 2025 Sundance slate, including standout films like Sorry Baby and Dead Lover How trust and leadership shape successful filmmaking partnerships Memorable Quotes: “Producing is about choices. It's never just about saying no; it's about saying, ‘Here's what we can do with what we have.'” “The only thing people remember is how you made them feel on set. If you can lead with kindness and clarity, that's what sticks.” “Sundance is where you see the future of storytelling take shape, and this year's slate is no exception.” Resources: Carolina Groppa's Podcast: Angle on Producers Carolina's IMDb: Carolina Groppa Carolina on Instagram: @carolinagroppa Learn more about the Sundance Film Festival: Sundance 2025 Highlighted Sundance Films: Sorry Baby: A heartfelt indie produced by Pastel, Barry Jenkins' company Dead Lover: Directed and written by Grace Glowicki, featuring Ben Petrie, and described as “genre-bending and unforgettable” Lose: A poignant drama set in Hong Kong about a man searching for his daughter Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of No Film School, host GG Hawkins and filmmaker Leah Saint Marie discuss the challenges and rewards of navigating the indie film industry. From festival purgatory to creating opportunities in a highly competitive field, Leah shares her insights, experiences, and actionable advice for aspiring filmmakers. The conversation also highlights the emotional tolls of rejection, the creative joys of collaboration, and why lying your way to the top (in a tongue-in-cheek way) might be more common than you think. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and Leah Saint Marie discuss: The struggles and successes of creating indie films and navigating festivals Leah's unconventional career journey and advice for creating your own opportunities How to handle rejection and imposter syndrome in a creative industry The importance of community and collaboration in indie filmmaking Leah's “birthday GoFundMe” strategy to fund her first feature Memorable Quotes: “No one else is telling you no, except yourself. If you haven't made a movie, if you haven't written a script, and you're afraid to do it, do it anyway.” (39:44) THis job is about community. Finding your community of people who feel like they are in the same space as you is so essential.” (1:16:32) “Sometimes I wish I didn't know as much… You're going to do it in a fresh way because you don't know what you're referencing.” (1:19:50) Resources: Leah's Podcast: Pitch! A Screenwriting Podcast Leah on X (formerly Twitter): @leahwelch19 Leah's IMDb:Leah Saint Marie Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of No Film School, hosts GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman are joined by filmmakers and programmers Erin Brown Thomas, Jillian Corsie, and Rafael Leyva to discuss the current state of short films. They dive into the challenges, creativity, and evolving landscape of the medium, exploring how short films serve as a crucial platform for experimentation and storytelling. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman discuss: The current climate for short films in the industry, including programming and distribution challenges How filmmakers like Erin, Jillian, and Rafael are innovating within the short film format The role of short films as both creative playgrounds and stepping stones for larger projects Programming insights from festivals like Salute Your Shorts and Slamdance Personal experiences creating impactful shorts, including Tooth and The Foster Ranch Memorable Quotes: “Short films are such a cool outlet. If there's any upcoming filmmakers out there, it's such a great way to tell a story in a little time, and people have no idea how difficult that is.” (10:31) “Shorts are this wonderful playground for creativity and trying new things.” (32:11) “There's a certain level of experimentation in shorts, and that's why I think, even if I'm four features into my career, there might still be room for me to make shorts.” (32:11) Resources: Tooth Short Film Erin Brown Thomas on Instagram: @erinbrownthomas_filmmaker Erin on TikTok: @erinbrownthomas_film Jillian Corsie on Instagram: @jcorsie Salute Your Shorts on TikTok: @salute_your_shorts The Foster Ranch Trailer: The Foster Ranch Rafael Leyva's Website: RLEYVADP.COM Versatile Assassins Films Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of No Film School, hosts GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman explore the craft of cinematic monologues and discuss how these powerful moments can elevate films. They also sit down with director David Gordon Green, whose latest holiday family film, Nutcrackers, debuts on Hulu. David shares his process of crafting a heartfelt and improvisational movie built around four real-life brothers, discussing how his indie roots continue to shape his creative approach. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman discuss: The craft of writing and performing memorable movie monologues Iconic monologues from The Godfather, Network, Cabin in the Woods, Scent of a Woman, and more David Gordon Green's process of reverse-engineering Nutcrackers around its young, untrained stars Why David values improvisation and naturalism in his filmmaking Advice for indie filmmakers about creating economically viable films while staying true to their creative vision Memorable Quotes: “When you're writing a great monologue, you're giving actors a reason to want to say those words and embody that character.” (4:21) “The movie became just a sculpture of things I want to see.” (22:54) “There's only one you, and you have to be that as loud as you can.” (45:00) Resources: The 25 Best Movie Monologues Watch Nutcrackers on Hulu GG Hawkins' Instagram: @LostinGraceland Jason Hellerman's Twitter: @JasonHellerman David Gordon Green's IMDb: David Gordon Green Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of No Film School, host GG Hawkins sits down with Jason Hellerman and special guest Matthew Starr, the creator of the Audible original series The Best Man's Ghostwriter. They delve into the creative process behind the audio series, which is described as an American version of Love Actually for audio, starring Glenn Powell and Nicholas Braun. Matthew shares how he transformed his experience as a ghostwriter for best man speeches into a compelling and humorous narrative. The discussion also explores the genre of World War II films. Jason, Matthew, and GG each discuss their favorite WWII movies, sparking a conversation about the role these films play in culture and history. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman, and Matthew Starr discuss: Matthew Starr's journey creating The Best Man's Ghostwriter, from its early concept to Audible production Adapting personal experiences into a scripted audio series Challenges and advantages of creating an episodic narrative in the audio format A discussion on their favorite World War II movies, including The Longest Day, Band of Brothers, Raiders of the Lost Ark, and Jojo Rabbit How WWII movies have shaped film culture and continue to resonate with audiences Memorable Quotes: “Narrative audio is such a vibrant medium—it's about figuring out how to make it fun and engaging to listen to.” (15:18) “Band of Brothers really captures the experience of fighting and surviving in WWII, unlike anything else.” (07:04) “If you just want to see Nazis getting killed, go watch Sisu. One grizzled old man takes on a team of Nazis, and it's incredible.” (11:15) Resources: Top World War II Movies Matthew Starr's Website: MatthewSStarr.com Follow Matthew on Instagram: @matthewsstarr Listen to The Best Man's Ghostwriter on Audible Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, GG Hawkins sits down with editor Celia Beasley to discuss her role in shaping Penelope, the new episodic series by the Duplass Brothers, now on Netflix. They explore the unique process of editing an episodic series that was shot like an indie film and edited entirely in the cloud. Celia shares her experiences of working outside major film hubs and the impact of community on her career. Through insightful conversations on editing, storytelling, and collaboration, Celia reveals her creative process and what it means to find success beyond New York and LA. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and Celia Beasley discuss: Transitioning from still photography to filmmaking and discovering editing as a storytelling tool Navigating the industry outside of major film hubs and the importance of a supportive community The unique challenges of editing Penelope, including cloud-based editing and handling extensive footage Using editing techniques to convey the protagonist's journey, especially in time-compressed scenes Advice for emerging filmmakers on trusting instincts, building collaborative relationships, and allowing a film to develop organically Memorable Quotes: “Editing is not an afterthought. It's the last chance for the film to be the best version of itself.” (46:44) “In the edit, I feel like I'm getting a giant bin of Legos, and it's up to me to put the pieces together to make it all work.” (30:24) “It's okay to ask questions, especially as an editor. I need to understand the vision, and I'm here to serve that.” (52:16) “People outside of New York and LA are in film for the love of it; we're doing it because we're passionate.” (12:32) Resources: Celia Beasley's Website: CeliaBeasley.com Celia on Instagram: @CeliaBeasley_Films Netflix Series Penelope: Watch on Netflix Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, host GG Hawkins hosts a roundtable discussion with microbudget filmmakers at the Austin Film Festival. They share their journeys of creating feature films under tight budgets and high personal stakes. Each filmmaker provides insight into the emotional, physical, and financial tolls of producing indie films while managing personal challenges. Despite the struggles, their stories are underscored by the resilience and camaraderie that helped them see their projects through. The discussion touches on how these filmmakers greenlit their own projects, self-funded, and navigated logistical and emotional hurdles. From crafting stories inspired by personal traumas to relying on a supportive community to rally resources, the episode reveals what it truly takes to complete a microbudget film. The filmmakers open up about facing setbacks, from COVID shutdowns to creative crises, while pushing forward in pursuit of their vision. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins speaks with indie filmmakers to discuss: The personal inspiration behind their microbudget films Emotional and physical tolls in the process of making a low-budget film Strategies for overcoming logistical challenges, from location scouting to equipment sourcing The importance of a supportive filmmaking community in DIY film production How each filmmaker dealt with setbacks and moments of doubt Key lessons from their experiences in indie filmmaking at AFF Memorable Quotes: “If I was going to do this and fail, it would be good to have a support system around us.” (20:10) “Making the movie, getting picture lock… you're only 60% there.” (44:13) “It's like a constant vulnerability. It's like cutting yourself open and letting your guts out every day.” (25:27) “I don't know if I'll do this again… It's incredible, but the toll is so high.” (50:42) Resources: Austin Film Festival GG Hawkins' Micro-Budget Filmmaking Newsletter: @LostinGraceland on Instagram Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Celebrating Halloween, this special episode dives into the indie horror-comedy Booger, an unconventional story that combines grief, body horror, and dark humor. Director Mary Dauterman, editor Kyle Moriarty, and lead actor Grace Glowicki share the creative and logistical challenges they faced bringing this unique film to life. From crafting a cat-human transformation story inspired by loss to the collaborative spirit on set, they reveal how to keep indie film projects grounded in vision, even on a tight budget. Mary Dauterman is a director and writer making her feature debut with Booger, a horror-comedy that blends humor and body horror to explore themes of grief. With a background in illustration and advertising, Mary brings a unique visual style to her work, making her voice distinct in the indie film scene. Kyle Moriarty is an editor known for his collaborative approach to indie projects, often working closely with directors to capture unique tones and pacing. His work on Booger helped shape the film's unsettling, humorous edge, bringing out the full impact of its horror-comedy fusion. Grace Glowicki is an actor and filmmaker acclaimed for her physical, transformative performances. In Booger, she brings the role to life through meticulous body language, channeling both horror and humor in the character's journey of transformation. In today's episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins speaks with Mary Dauterman, Kyle Moriarty, and Grace Glowicki to discuss: The inspiration behind Booger, blending dark themes with horror and humor How the 2020 lockdown shaped the film's themes of grief and loneliness Mary Dauterman's transition from shorts to her debut feature film and what that entailed The creative approach to body horror, from prosthetics to unique camera techniques How editor Kyle Moriarty's previous collaboration with Mary Dauterman influenced the edit's tone and pacing Grace Glowicki's physical preparation for the role, embodying the character's transformation Managing DIY effects on a low budget   Memorable Quotes: “Writing it during lockdown and writing it being like super isolated, these themes of grief and loneliness started creeping in.” (04:18) “I decided to storyboard the entire film all the way through, which was crazy, but I'm really glad I did it because I think I could pay attention to certain things like: how does the film feel visually?” (12:12) “Our specialty lenses were called a lens baby, which is kind of like a lens with an accordion and you can push it all around and the focus falls and it looks really unsettling.” (14:06) “The biggest challenge was we were shooting like July into August and turns out prosthetics melt.” (24:48) “It's a little bit like the more seriously we take her cat behavior and transformation and just all that grossness… the funnier it is.” (30:52) “I was getting these poster designs that I was like, what? No. I'm going to do this myself. So I went a little nuts.” (46:20) Resources: Booger on IMDb Follow Mary Dauterman on Instagram Mary Dauterman on IMDb Mary Dauterman's website Kyle Moriarty on IMDb Kyle Moriarty's website Grace Glowicki on IMDb Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web https://nofilmschool.com/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool Twitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschool YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nofilmschool Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What does it take to go from indie filmmaking on a shoestring budget to working with legends like Sam Raimi? Andrew Kightlinger's journey from Madagascar to Hollywood shows how personal experiences shape a filmmaker's voice. Filmmakers Adam Schindler and Brian Netto share how they moved from microbudget horror films to collaborating with one of the industry's icons. This episode explores the highs and lows of filmmaking, from preparation and improvisation to building trust on set.   Andrew Kightlinger grew up surrounded by the vibrant landscapes of Madagascar, which ignited his passion for filmmaking. Now directing in Hollywood, his films, like Lost on a Mountain in Maine, showcase his ability to merge personal experiences with visually captivating storytelling. Lost on a Mountain in Maine releases on November 1.   Adam Schindler and Brian Netto began their filmmaking journey with microbudget horror, mastering the craft of tension and suspense. Their latest film, Don't Move, produced by Sam Raimi, is set to release on October 25, 2024 on Netflix, proving that powerful stories don't require massive budgets   In today's episode, No Film School's Jason Hellerman and GG Hawkins speak with Andrew Kightlinger, Adam Schindler, and Brian Netto to discuss: Andrew Kightlinger's journey from Madagascar to Hollywood How his upbringing influenced Lost on a Mountain in Maine The need for preparation and improvisation with tight budgets Schindler and Netto's move from micro budget films to working with Sam Raimi on Don't Move Creating real-time horror with minimal voiceover and non-linear techniques The role of trust and collaboration in elevating a project     Memorable Quotes: “The big lesson I learned in that movie was who not to work with, and I won't go into more detail than that, but I think that's a very important lesson in a collaborative field like ours.” (12:03) “I believe that filmmaking is preparation. Like bar none, that's what your job as a director is to do. So prepare because it's gonna be chaos when you start shooting.” (18:02)  “I knew what I wanted the film to be. And then I also storyboarded the whole movie just with stick figures. I just had an iPad and I drew out all the really complicated stuff to the best of my ability.” (20:06) “He's the consummate collaborator, like… horror icon, but also like one of the best script to screen notes… he lives up to all of it.” (45:22) “We became directors together. Our passion for film began together. We founded together. I think the things that we enjoy are slightly different. We like the same movies, but we also have different tastes.” (55:17) “I think the filmmaking part of it is the fun part and the easy part. It's all the other things that you have to juggle and have the temperament for and the stomach for and the patience for and all those sorts of things.” (1:04:26)   Resources: Follow Andrew Kightlinger on Instagram   Andrew on IMDb   Lost on a Mountain in Maine on IMDb   Adam Schindler on IMDb   Follow Adam on Instagram   Brian Netto on IMDb   Follow Brian on Instagram   Don't Move on IMDB     Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web https://nofilmschool.com/   Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool   Twitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschool   YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool   Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nofilmschool   Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In filmmaking, finding the right actor can make all the difference, and for Hallie Meyers-Shyer, Michael Keaton was the only choice for the lead role in Goodrich. This episode delves into the creative journey of writing and directing a deeply personal film, navigating the challenges of independent production, and discovering the heart of the story during editing. It also explores how persistence, vision, and collaboration are essential in bringing a project to life. Hallie Meyers-Shyer is a writer and director known for her heartfelt and character-driven stories. Following in the footsteps of her legendary filmmaking parents, Nancy Meyers and Charles Shyer, Hallie made her directorial debut with Home Again in 2017. Her latest film, Goodrich, is a personal story inspired by her family dynamics, with a lead role written specifically for Michael Keaton. Hallie is passionate about crafting films that blend humor and emotion, creating stories that resonate on a deeply human level.   In today's episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman speak with Hallie Meyers-Shyer to discuss: Insights from the LA Director's Lab, a workshop that offers directors a space to practice their craft and experiment with creative risks Why Michael Keaton was the perfect fit for Goodrich and how she wrote the role with him in mind The personal inspiration behind the story, rooted in Hallie's experiences with her own family How to keep pushing forward with a film project, even when financing falls through The importance of outlining in the writing process and how it provides freedom in creativity Hallie's experience working with a tight-knit team and storyboarding the entire film The emotional discoveries that shaped the film during editing and how the film revealed itself as more than just a comedy   Memorable Quotes: “I work hard to fully flesh out each character and make them not just servicing the thing that you want to get across in that scene and make them people with a lot of layers and things.” (15:06) “I kind of always felt this was going to be an independent movie, even though it sort of would have been a studio movie probably 30 years ago.” (18:24) “I had Pinterest boards for costumes. I had Pinterest boards for every location. I also had a really long time to work on this movie, so I had about six years of images pulled.” (26:27) “I love editing. I just love it. It's one of my favorite parts, if not my favorite part.” (36:02) “Something I noticed about Michael Keaton in the editing room (…) is he brings the first scene of the movie into the last scene of the movie.” (37:15) “I know many super talented writers who can do multiple projects at once. I admire it. I cannot do it. I am so fully immersed in what I'm writing.” (46:27) “I think it's so important for human stories, personal stories about people and emotions and whatever your life story is, get it out there, keep at it, be your biggest champion, make it happen.” (51:52)     Resources: Follow Hallie Meyers-Shyer on Instagram   Hallie on IMDb   Goodrich on IMDb   Hollywood Camera Works trainings     Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web https://nofilmschool.com/   Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool   Twitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschool   YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool   Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nofilmschool   Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Austin Film Festival (AFF) stands out for its unique focus on writers and emerging filmmakers, providing a space for attendees to connect with industry professionals and discover creative collaborations. With its welcoming atmosphere, AFF offers an ideal environment for networking, learning, and exploring new opportunities. The conversation also delves into the career of cinematographer Mihai Malaimare Jr., who shares his journey from film school to working with legendary director Francis Ford Coppola, offering insights into his approach to cinematography and navigating the evolving role of technology in film.   Andy Volk is the Senior Film Programmer at Austin Film Festival. He selects films from around the world and helps shape the festival's diverse lineup.   Emily Lock is the Conference Director at Austin Film Festival. She organizes panels and events focused on screenwriting and filmmaking.   Mihai Malaimare Jr. is a cinematographer known for Megalopolis and Jojo Rabbit. He began working with Francis Ford Coppola shortly after film school and is recognized for his innovative approach to both film and digital cinematography. Mihai has worked on several acclaimed films, blending artistry with evolving technology.   In today's episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and Ryan Koo speak with Andy Volk, Emily Lock, and Mihai Malaimare Jr. to discuss: How to make the most of your time at the Austin Film Festival Why AFF stands out as a community-driven festival Tips for networking, pitching, and finding creative collaborations at the festival Mihai Malaimare Jr.'s journey from film school to becoming Francis Ford Coppola's go-to cinematographer How Mihai navigates the evolving landscape of VFX-heavy productions and maintains the balance between technology and artistry Building lasting professional relationships with directors and how to stay open to creative ideas on set   Memorable Quotes: “[AFF] is one of the more welcoming festivals that I've ever been to, and it really is about community. And I think that's one of the things that we really pride ourselves on at the festival is making it feel really warm and really open.” (7:34) “It's a very rare opportunity for an aspiring and emerging storyteller to get in a room with someone who's an actual gatekeeper for Hollywood, to hear their perspective on what they're looking for and their advice to emerging voices, and to have the opportunity to speak with them, either one-on-one or in a group, and really pitch themselves.” (16:22) “I want any of our listeners who sort of skew on the shyer side to practice introducing themselves to somebody that they don't know.” (19:03) “My advice is watch everything. And I know that sounds trite, but it's so important to get outside your own taste bubble.” (25:34) “Make space for things that don't jump out at you. And you would be surprised how much you can love something that didn't really necessarily call to you.” (25:58) “It can be very stressful when you're not prepared, and you're used to productions that are really very carefully planned. If you move an inch, then it's a disaster.” (38:09) “I'm still trying to figure out why, but I'm more attracted to still photography than stills from other movies.” (52:18)     Resources Mentioned: Austin Film Festival   On Story podcast   Mihai Malaimare Jr. on Instagram    Mihai Malaimare Jr. on IMDb   Mihai Malaimare Jr.'s website     Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web https://nofilmschool.com/   Facebook  https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool   Twitter  https://twitter.com/nofilmschool   YouTube    https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nofilmschool Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The O-1 visa, also known as the "artist visa," is a crucial step for filmmakers and creative professionals aiming to establish their careers in the U.S. Designed for individuals with extraordinary ability in their fields, the application process can be daunting. This episode offers insights into what it takes to qualify, how to strengthen your application, and common challenges faced by those seeking an O-1. Whether you're in the middle of applying or just starting out, this episode provides a roadmap for navigating the process.   Alabama Blonde is a casting director, costume designer, and performance coach originally from Australia. Now based in Los Angeles, she has navigated the O-1 visa process twice, ultimately securing a green card. Alabama's multidisciplinary career spans various creative roles, giving her unique insights into the challenges of obtaining visas as an artist working across multiple fields.   Julia Zanin de Paula is a Brazilian filmmaker, director, and editor currently based in New York. With a background in horror films, including her notable short Mother of Monsters, Julia has successfully transitioned from a student visa to an O-1 artist visa. She offers valuable advice on gathering press, awards, and recommendations to strengthen her application.   Sneha Mendis is a producer and screenwriter from India, currently in New York, and in the midst of applying for her O-1 visa. With a background in production and development, Sneha shares her experience of building a case for the visa while working in various roles across film sets in the U.S.   In today's episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman speak with filmmakers Alabama Blonde, Julia Zanin de Paula, and Sneha Mendes to discuss: What qualifies as “extraordinary ability” and how to demonstrate it in your visa application The key documents and evidence required to strengthen your case, including press coverage, awards, and work offers The emotional challenges of navigating the visa process and finding support while applying Common misconceptions about the O-1 visa and why it's not as "easy" as some think Financial considerations: the costs of legal fees, recommendations, and union approvals     Memorable Quotes: “I think being extraordinary is having something that sets you apart from everyone who's doing the thing that you do.” (15:05) “You know what happens when you're a filmmaker and you are starting your career? You're couch surfing. You know, it's not always easy.” (24:10) “They can't say Julia will be extraordinary. They have to say Julia is extraordinary right now, and she will be extraordinary in the US.” (25:56) “You've got to be a little insane to do the O1 visa. You've got to be a little delusional. Because if you don't go all in, you're not going to get it.” (32:34) If you have a long-term project that the producer has never encountered your visa and has never gone through human resources with your kind of visa, they might not be down to do it.” (43:22) “It doesn't get easier once you get it. It's just a constant struggle to grow in your career.” (44:20)   Mentioned: Follow Sneha Mendes on Instagram   Sneha's website   Sneha on IMDb   Follow Julia Zanin de Paula on Instagram   Julia's website   Julia on IMDb   Follow Alabama Blonde on Instagram   Strike the Blonde Casting on Instagram     Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web https://nofilmschool.com/   Facebook  https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool   Twitter  https://twitter.com/nofilmschool   YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nofilmschool Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As AI continues to reshape creative industries, video editing is undergoing a major transformation. Tools like Eddie AI are making the editing process faster, more efficient, and more accessible to filmmakers. By acting as a storytelling partner, AI can quickly generate rough cuts, find key moments in footage, and even suggest alternative storylines, all while freeing up creatives to focus on the art of storytelling. This episode explores how AI is changing the landscape of post-production, addressing both the excitement and concerns about its growing role in filmmaking. Shamir Allibhai is the co-founder and CEO of Eddie AI, an innovative tool designed to assist filmmakers in streamlining the video editing process. With a background in documentary filmmaking and production work at the BBC, Shamir transitioned into tech to solve the workflow challenges he encountered in the field. His passion for storytelling drives his mission to use AI as a tool to empower creators, making the process of crafting stories more efficient and accessible to all.  Jourdan Aldredge is the tech editor at No Film School, with years of experience covering filmmaking tools, techniques, and trends. A filmmaker and writer himself, Jourdan brings a unique perspective on how technology intersects with storytelling.    In today's episode, No Film School's Gigi Hawkins speaks with Jourdan Aldredge and Shamir Allibhai to discuss: The evolution of video editing and how AI tools can help streamline the process How Eddie AI functions as a "storytelling partner" for filmmakers, not just an editing tool The iterative nature of filmmaking and how AI can aid in refining the story during production Addressing fears around AI in creative industries, including concerns about replacing human creativity How AI tools can save time and focus more energy on the craft of storytelling The future of AI in film and how it can democratize storytelling     Memorable Quotes: “I have this aspiration that more people can tell better stories. And I want to help bring those untold stories out.” (5:04) “Hey, let's find the most important sound bites on these topics, let's start creating a rough cut, but also, hey, you also need 10 TikToks.” (16:58) “Imagine if production and post-production weren't the siloed steps. What if they could operate in tandem in a similar sense to an agile workflow?” (20:36) “I think with every technology we've observed, they've actually led to an increase in productivity or creativity.” (24:13) “I truly believe that a lot of these tools are like bicycles for the mind.” (36:03)   Mentioned: Eddie AI   Jourdan Aldredge's article about Eddie AI   Follow Jourdan on LinkedIn   Follow Shamir on X   Shamir on IMDb   Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web https://nofilmschool.com/   Facebook  https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool   Twitter  https://twitter.com/nofilmschool   YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nofilmschool Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How do documentary films inform the way we approach narrative filmmaking? What does it mean to care for your mental health in an industry that thrives on constant creativity and long hours? How do documentary editors navigate the emotional toll of handling sensitive, often traumatic stories? In today's episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins speaks with editor Kait Plum to discuss: Doing a test scene before becoming the editor of Bad Shabbos The difference between editing doc and editing narrative Editing a film with many characters  The benefits of doing test screenings for comedy  Facing difficult footage when editing a documentary  The importance of setting boundaries and taking breaks Using the term “participant” instead of “subject” in documentary filmmaking What it was like to work on the doc, Mediha Why networking and mentorship are crucial for aspiring editors Memorable Quotes “Working in documentary is so much work. Working in narrative was just fun because everything is there and you have a script.” [5:01] “We are looking at a lot of harrowing stuff on repeat and having to internalize that.” [30:55] “I know a lot of fellow documentary editors who deal with depression and anxiety on a regular basis.” [31:02] “The number one thing in the film industry is to network.” [42:56] Links: Bad Shabbos Mediha  Follow Kait on IG  Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web https://nofilmschool.com/ Facebook  https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool Twitter  https://twitter.com/nofilmschool YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nofilmschool Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As streaming reshapes the industry, pilot season is a thing of the past, leaving creatives to navigate constant demands and year-round pitching. How do filmmakers find balance when the lines between work and rest blur? And how can unexpected pivots lead to more meaningful projects? This episode explores staying resilient in a world without structure, featuring Max Lugavere's decade-long journey with Little Empty Boxes, a deeply personal documentary about his mother's battle with dementia that evolved in ways he never expected.   Max Lugavere is a filmmaker, health journalist, and New York Times bestselling author. After his mother's diagnosis with Lewy body dementia, Max chronicled her experience in Little Empty Boxes. The film, which took over a decade to complete, shifted from an investigative piece to an intimate portrayal of love, loss, and resilience. In today's episode, No Film School's Gigi Hawkins speaks with Jason Hellerman, Max Lugavere and Chris Newhard to discuss: The death of pilot season and how streaming has transformed the TV landscape The endless cycle of pitching and the impact on writers' lives Finding balance between personal life and an unpredictable film industry. How unexpected creative pivots can lead to more meaningful work. Max Lugavere's personal journey documenting his mother's battle with dementia in Little Empty Boxes Chris Newhard's role in reshaping Little Empty Boxes through fresh eyes, helping it evolve into a deeply emotional and impactful documentary   Memorable Quotes: “The thing with pilot season not existing is interesting because you still have network TV, right? Network TV still generally functions the way it always has, except for it doesn't embrace the buying and research and development behind pilot season anymore.” [5:36] “The anxiety of pitching year-round is that you're also assuming these execs are reading year-round. They need a break too.” [9:03] “There were likely overlapping skills that I had learned as a short form content creator that could be applied to long form documentary filmmaking, but of course the amount of money and time and personnel required to create a feature length documentary… it's so different.” [26:28] “Being in front of the camera allowed me access to some moments that I think you probably wouldn't have been able to catch on film had I not actually had been there.” [41:04] “I just simply found that going with the emotion instead of trying to fight the tide was more beneficial for me.” [53:24] “He spent a lot of time and a lot of money trying to make this movie happen. And the first thing I did is I deleted it.” [55:42]   Mentioned: Max Lugavere on Instagram   Little Empty Boxes website   Max Lugavere's website   The Genius Life podcast   Max Lugavere's Books   Chris Newhard's website   Chris Newhard on Instagram   Jason Hellerman on IMDb   Jason's library of content on No Film School   Jason on Instagram   Jason on X   KYNO editing tool   Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web https://nofilmschool.com/   Facebook  https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool   Twitter  https://twitter.com/nofilmschool   YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nofilmschool Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Selling a script can feel like a distant dream, but the process is very much alive. From using platforms like The Black List to writing query letters and building personal connections, breaking into the industry is challenging but not impossible. Plus, we explore the rise of the Panamanian film industry, how it has evolved, and what it takes to make a mark in a smaller but growing market.  Delfina Vidal is a Panamanian filmmaker known for her documentaries. She has contributed significantly to the growing Panamanian film industry, focusing on telling stories that resonate with local and international audiences. Arianne Benedetti is a producer and key figure in the Panamanian film scene. She is instrumental in the development of Panama's cinematic landscape, working on projects that showcase the country's cultural and artistic diversity. Maria Isabel Burnes is involved in promoting the Panamanian film industry, playing an essential role in nurturing emerging filmmakers and helping develop a vibrant film culture in Panama. In today's episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins speaks with Jason Hellerman and filmmakers from Panama Delfina Vidal, Arianne Benedetti and Maria Isabel Burnes to discuss: How to break into the industry by selling or optioning scripts The importance of getting your work out into the world and building a community around it The Substance, the film starring Demi Moore, Dennis Quaid and Margaret Qualley, written and directed by Coralie Fargeat What emerging filmmakers in Panama are doing to grow their film industry Strategies to create universal stories that can travel beyond local markets Why female filmmakers are thriving in Panama's expanding film scene Memorable Quotes: "You have to get your story out into the world. You have to be willing to hear the sometimes harsh feedback that these websites deliver.” [05:25] "Don't stop writing, because maybe the main thing here is: one script can open a couple doors, two scripts can open more, three, you know, onward and upward, but you're gonna need scripts." [16:34] “It's not just about how great your script is, but how marketable it is. Who sees that they can make money from it? Is this some material that I can get something in return for?” [20:15] “It's more common to be on an NFL roster than it is to be a working screenwriter in Hollywood.” [26:21” “When you're going to work with kids, make sure you have a lot of time before set so they can relate to you and feel very comfortable with you.” [59:02] “Always, always prepare for the worst. Prepare your coworkers for the worst. Prepare your actors for the worst. Prepare the location that you're working in for the worst.” [1:03:07] Mentioned: Jason Hellerman on IMDb Jason's library of content on No Film School Jason on Instagram Jason on X Delfina Vidal on IMDb Arianne Benedetti on IMDb Maria Isabel Burnes on IMDb The Black List Stage 32 Roadmap Writers Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web https://nofilmschool.com/   Facebook  https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool   Twitter  https://twitter.com/nofilmschool   YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nofilmschool Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Filmmaking isn't just about making a great film—it's about getting that film seen. With traditional distribution models crumbling, independent filmmakers are finding new ways to connect directly with audiences. This episode explores how the indie film landscape is shifting, with filmmakers taking control of their own distribution, marketing, and audience-building strategies. Whether you're a first-time filmmaker or a seasoned pro, this episode will inspire you to think outside the box and embrace a more grassroots approach to getting your work into the world. Jon Reiss is a filmmaker, author of the book Think Outside the Box Office, and a media strategist who runs 8 Above, a company that creates custom distribution strategies for indie films. He has consulted with filmmakers and organizations worldwide including The Gotham, IDA, and Film Independent, and has led workshops on distribution and marketing through his 8 Above Distribution Lab. Reiss is currently producing a documentary on robotic performance artist Mark Pauline, and is producing the second season of a podcast, Plantscendence, about people's psychedelic experiences. He has recently launched a Substack focused on indie film distribution and marketing. Annamaria Sofillas, a development executive and producer, is the Director of Content at Kino Lorber's MHz SVOD. She is the lead producer of the documentary "I'm “George Lucas": A Connor Ratliff Story, which premiered at Slamdance '24 and received theatrical exhibition nationwide through Alamo Drafthouse Cinemas, with digital distribution by Grasshopper Film. Annamaria was instrumental in building NBCUniversal's Seeso and Gimlet Media's scripted division, where she led over 25 long-form television series and 30 stand-up specials, including the GLAAD Award-nominated Take My Wife and BAFTA Award-nominated Flowers. Scott Monahan, the filmmaker behind Anchorage, has been candid about his experience with self-distribution, highlighting the challenges and successes of taking control of a film's release. Glen Reynolds, founder of Circus Road Films, is a producer rep and festival advocate who helps indie filmmakers navigate distribution and find the right partners to bring their projects to audiences. In this roundtable discussion, No Film School's GG Hawkins speaks with Jon Reiss, Annamaria Sofillas, Scott Monahan, and Glen Reynolds to discuss: Why hybrid distribution is essential for indie filmmakers today How film festivals and events can help grow your audience Why setting clear release goals is crucial for your film's success How building your audience starts long before your film's release Real-world examples of filmmakers using grassroots promotion and festival tours Why filmmakers are taking control of their own marketing and outreach strategies How indie filmmakers are embracing a punk rock mentality to bypass traditional distribution models Links: Learn more about Scott Monahan Learn more about Glen Reynolds Follow Annamaria Sofillas on Instagram Buy or rent I'm “George Lucas”: A Connor Ratliff Story on Amazon/Apple I'm "George Lucas": A Connor Ratliff Story Website Follow I'm “George Lucas” on Instagram Follow I'm “George Lucas” on Facebook Follow I'm “George Lucas” on X 8 Above with Jon Reiss Substack 8 Above website Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web https://nofilmschool.com/ Facebook  https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool Twitter  https://twitter.com/nofilmschool YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nofilmschool Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Imagery plays a crucial role in filmmaking, shaping how a story visually unfolds. This element must be integrated into the scriptwriting process, rather than being left for production. With fall film festivals in full swing, indie filmmakers are not only focused on storytelling but also on the challenges of navigating the competitive market and selling their films. A strong visual narrative can make all the difference when it comes to standing out and securing distribution deals. Director Niclas Larsson's feature film Mother, Couch! brings an intriguing mix of surrealism and family drama to the screen. Premiering at the 2023 Toronto International Film Festival, this film stars Ewan McGregor and explores the strange dynamic of a mother refusing to leave a couch in a furniture store. Its unique visual storytelling and offbeat premise are sure to leave an impression.   In today's episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins speaks with Jason Hellerman and Niclas Larsson to discuss: Why memorable imagery in scripts is key to creating impactful films The challenges of today's film festival market and indie acquisitions Niclas Larsson's unique creative process and his “Storm Book” How the physical layout of Mother, Couch! plays a critical role in the story's themes Why sticking to your gut and vision is essential in the post-production process   Memorable Quotes: "Imagery is something that should go hand in hand with filmmaking." [1:55]  "We're missing images right from the core. We're relying too much on cinematographers or directors to find them later." [5:08] "If you can master the short form, if you can really pay attention to every single second of what you're doing and the importance of every second." [24:23] "Everything we do in scene one to nine needs to be confused, it needs to resemble or picture, convey confusion and displacement." [30:12] "You make movies for other people—the real people. A singular vision is supposed to be criticized." [01:04:37] "The level of filmmaking has declined and is declining rapidly. And we need to stay strong, giving an adult audience bang for their buck, because that's our job." [01:04:56] Mentioned Jason Hellerman on IMDb Jason's library of content on No Film School Learn more about Mother, Couch! on IMDb Niclas Larsson on IMDb Follow Niclas on Vimeo Follow Niclas Larsson on Instagram   Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web https://nofilmschool.com/   Facebook  https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool   Twitter  https://twitter.com/nofilmschool   YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nofilmschool Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Actor Saoirse Ronan recently revealed that she is halfway through writing a short film that she plans to direct— and it feels so relatable. It reminds us that creative struggles are universal, no matter who you are. But being halfway through is not a failure but a part of the journey. Tune in to know what to do to reach the finish line. In today's episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman and guest Patrick Walsh discuss: Saoirse Ronan is halfway through writing a short film she plans to direct  The relatable struggle of getting stuck halfway through a project Outlining and having a clear ending in mind to avoid getting stuck in the middle of a writing project Actors transitioning to directing and the unique perspective they bring The value of grants, labs, and workshops for filmmakers to get support and feedback The list of grants and labs that No Film School has launched on its website The recent positive performance of films at the box office Patrick's journey into editing, starting from film studies Patrick's experience of destination editing for the film The Uninvited Technical challenges and workflow of remote editing Memorable Quotes “I do think short films are coming back to Hollywood.” [03:03]  “Don't start writing something you don't absolutely know how it ends. It's not worth cranking out 100 final draft pages if you don't know what happens in the last four.” [3:39]   “Labs beget labs, just as festivals beget festivals.” [15:50] “These grants are that stepping stone that maybe you didn't know you needed.” [15:03] “Seeing these movies do well has been a strong indicator that movies are back, and original ideas with strong genres and points of view have a viable place in the marketplace.” [21:49]  “It's been good to see Hollywood bounce back a little bit from the strikes and from the MPTP not paying writers and actors what they deserve.” [23:22]  “Films aren't finished. They're abandoned.” [51:33] Links: Patrick Walsh Website  Follow Patrick Walsh on IG Grants and Labs List   Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web https://nofilmschool.com/ Facebook  https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool Twitter  https://twitter.com/nofilmschool YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nofilmschool Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the No Film School podcast, GG Hawkins interviews Ryan Thomas, the cinematographer, and Dan Edwards, the colorist, of the film 'I Really Love My Husband'. They discuss the process of color grading and the importance of early collaboration and communication between the director, DP, and colorist. They emphasize the need for budgeting for color grading and creating a LUT (lookup table) before shooting to establish the desired look of the film. They also discuss the dangers of editing in log and the importance of developing a shared vision and trust between the creative team. In this conversation, Dan, GG Hawkins, and Ryan discuss the importance of color grading in filmmaking and how it can enhance the storytelling process. They talk about the role of color in creating a specific mood and atmosphere, as well as the challenges and considerations when working with different skin tones. They also touch on the importance of communication and collaboration between the director, DP, and colorist, and the use of visual references to convey desired looks. The conversation concludes with advice for emerging filmmakers interested in color grading. Takeaways Early collaboration and communication between the director, DP, and colorist is crucial for achieving the desired look of the film. Budgeting for color grading is important to ensure that there is enough time and resources for the process. Creating a LUT before shooting can help establish the look of the film and avoid surprises in the final grade. Editing in log can limit creativity and make it difficult to achieve the desired look of the film. Developing a shared vision and trust between the creative team is essential for a successful color grading process. Color grading plays a crucial role in enhancing the storytelling process by creating a specific mood and atmosphere. Working with different skin tones requires careful consideration and communication to achieve the desired look. Collaboration and communication between the director, DP, and colorist are essential for a successful color grading session. Visual references can be used to convey desired looks and facilitate effective communication. Investing in a comfortable and well-equipped color grading environment can enhance the client's experience and trust in the process. For emerging filmmakers interested in color grading, it is recommended to seek out reliable learning resources and invest in a calibrated display for accurate color representation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The world of filmmaking is full of challenges, from industry rejection to personal setbacks. Yet, for many independent filmmakers, these obstacles become opportunities for growth and perseverance. This episode explores how passion, persistence, and a refusal to give up can turn seemingly insurmountable odds into career-defining moments. Whether you're an aspiring filmmaker or a seasoned professional, the story of how Nadine Crocker made her mark in the industry is sure to inspire. Nadine Crocker is a filmmaker, actor, and mental health advocate whose latest feature, Continue, is based on her own struggles with depression and suicide. The award-winning drama tells the story of a woman who, after a failed suicide attempt, is taken to a mental institution where she finds unexpected friendships, love, and a new purpose. Set for release by Lionsgate during Suicide Awareness Month, the film has already garnered critical acclaim for its raw portrayal of mental health struggles. Nadine not only wrote, directed, and produced Continue, but also stars in it, bringing an intensely personal narrative to life. After years of being typecast and facing rejection, she took control of her career, creating projects that speak to her truth, including Desperation Road, her second Lionsgate release. In today's episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins speaks with Nadine Crocker to discuss: Being dropped by her reps shortly after having her first baby—and how it led her to make Continue independently. Breaking free from being typecast and proving herself as a writer, director, and producer. Balancing waitressing and raising a newborn while working on her first feature film. Securing financing through personal savings and a small group of supportive investors. Deciding to stop waiting for permission and create her own opportunities. How Continue became a movement for mental health awareness through her nonprofit, Continue On. Memorable Quotes: “I did hear like all the time, I was too pretty to pay the best friend and I wasn't famous enough to be the lead.” [6:01] “I'm done asking for permission. I'm making this movie and I don't care what I have to do or how much work or how many years it takes.” [9:16] “I invested my life savings into this movie, like every time we had, and went back to waitressing so that I could keep the lights on.” [11:30] "Imagine being dropped in the middle of the ocean with nothing but a hard drive, and you gotta keep it over your head and tread motherfucking water until someone comes." [21:09] Links: Continue IMDb Follow Nadine Crocker on Instagram Continue the Film on Instagram Learn more about her nonprofit   Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web https://nofilmschool.com/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool Twitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschool YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nofilmschool Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What happens when you make two micro-budget films back-to-back? For filmmakers Henry Loevner and Stephen Cantor, it sparks what they've dubbed the “micro-budget chain reaction,” inspiring others in their community to pick up cameras and start shooting. As the industry consolidates and traditional distribution becomes harder to navigate, indie filmmakers are finding new ways to create and share their work, embracing folk filmmaking and using platforms like YouTube to bypass traditional barriers. Peak Season, the duo's second feature, serves as a perfect example of this movement.   In today's episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins speaks with filmmakers Henry Loevner and Stephen Cantor to discuss: What the "micro-budget chain reaction" means and how it inspired others to follow in their footsteps The challenges of making two micro-budget films back-to-back The impact of friends and community on the rise of indie filmmaking Their experience shooting Peak Season in Wyoming with a small crew How the landscape of indie film distribution is changing and why many filmmakers are turning to YouTube The importance of flexibility and improvisation in low-budget filmmaking How Peak Season found its audience and landed a theatrical release Why Henry and Stephen are ready to transition to a studio film after their micro-budget projects   Memorable Quotes: "It's contagious for better or worse... we're making something, and we're not waiting for permission." [5:40] “Despite all the doom and gloom about the industry in general and how hard it is to make a living, there's never been an easier time to go out and make your film.” [6:43] “If you just put your movie on YouTube, you can get it out there immediately, which is amazing.” [8:19] “If you've written a script and it's going to take $10 million to make this movie and you don't have $10 million, then write a new script.” [51:33] “The only way to do it is you have to just write something small that you can manage. Write something that's set in a single location.” [51:56]   Mentioned Peak Season on IMDb Follow Henry Loevner on IG Follow Stephen Cantor on Instagram   Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web https://nofilmschool.com/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool Twitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschool YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nofilmschool Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How can you break into the film industry? Especially if you're not in Hollywood or you come from a different profession, like law. Is thick skin essential? Can you balance business with creativity? Producer Ken Kao, co-founder of Waypoint Entertainment, shares insights on these topics, some of his experiences, and recent projects. Ken's latest feature, CUCKOO, written and directed by Tilman Singer, stars Hunter Schafer, Dan Stevens, and Jessica Henwick and premiered at the 2024 Berlin International Film Festival. With a diverse portfolio spanning films like Academy Award-winning THE FAVORITE and THE NICE GUYS, featuring Ryan Gosling and Russell Crowe, Ken's expertise and vision have shaped the landscape of modern cinema. In today's episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins speaks with Ken Kao, co-founder of Waypoint Entertainment and producer of some of the most anticipated films of 2024, to discuss: How Ken started in the industry, moving from lawyer to producer without film school Advice for emerging filmmakers and indie producers The Waypoint x Neon partnership and the opportunity in mid-budget films How he selects projects, being a genre-agnostic producer How Waypoint stays nimble and adaptive in the ever-changing industry What every producer or aspiring producer should be consuming and Ken's media diet beyond movies Living in Hawaii and maintaining distance from Hollywood His latest feature, "CUCKOO," by Tilman Singer, starring Hunter Schafer, Dan Stevens, and Jessica Henwick Waypoint's involvement in the release of “Longlegs,” directed by Osgood Perkins and starring Nicolas Cage and Maika Monroe Other projects currently in development   Memorable quotes: “You never know what's gonna happen when you start making a film” [12:02] “We're all just trying to make good movies that touch people and that we can be proud of” [20:05] “I think the vast majority, especially this younger generation of people, if you're gonna get them off their sofas, getting to put their phone down, take 10 to 20 minutes to drive to a theater park and get it and sit there and give up two hours of their time, you need to give them some kind of authentic experience. I think what's good is subjective, but I think their ability to sniff the BS is high.” [21:55] “As difficult as the film business right now is, I think as a creator, and I'm not just speaking for myself, I'm just speaking for aspiring creators, people that are creating already, in some ways it's as strong as the time has ever.” [41:00] “A good number of people know when actors are choosing movies to make a buck. And when they really love the material and they're putting themselves in that role, in that movie.” [46:07] “Trust your taste, trust what you're trying to say to people, and trust your instincts.” [47:33]   Links: Follow Ken Kao on LinkedIn Ken Kao on IMDb Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web https://nofilmschool.com/ Facebook  https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool Twitter  https://twitter.com/nofilmschool  YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nofilmschool Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices